| 00:00.08 | Angrybirds | YES |
| 00:00.15 | Angrybirds | SO MUCH YES |
| 00:00.21 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:00.30 | TekDroid | YES. |
| 00:00.34 | DrodoEmpire | So fun fact: The Korean societal elite for many years hated Hangul; The current alphabet used in Korea. Giving it names like "writing you can learn within a morning", and "children's script" |
| 00:00.46 | TekDroid | I won't sleep much tonight. |
| 00:01.54 | TekDroid | Hm... how big can I make the Katar map before I risk crashing GIMP... |
| 00:02.00 | TekDroid | >.> |
| 00:02.55 | Technobliterator | you can split it into multiple different ones for each sector? |
| 00:03.25 | DrodoEmpire | That's possible; Though having one united "world map" would be a good start before moving on to smaller-scales. |
| 00:03.31 | TekDroid | I still need a unified background. |
| 00:05.27 | TekDroid | Yep, no sleep tonight. XD |
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| 00:08.26 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 00:08.40 | TekDroid | Hello. |
| 00:08.51 | TekDroid | Techno added a new feature! |
| 00:09.07 | TekDroid | We now have interactive maps! |
| 00:09.55 | Technobliterator | monet's already been made aware of this |
| 00:10.03 | TekDroid | Oh. XD |
| 00:11.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 00:11.27 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 00:14.03 | Monet_ | Oh I ca nsee the usefulness of this... |
| 00:14.07 | Monet_ | Much usefulness |
| 00:14.32 | TekDroid | For once my fictional cartography feels validated. XD |
| 00:15.19 | Hachiman | Ugh whenever I see a discussion about Narnia, there has to be at least ten fuckwits who go "hurr durr aslan is jesuz its all christianism pls accept big j as ur savur" |
| 00:15.38 | TekDroid | lol |
| 00:15.39 | Technobliterator | have any of you worked out how to add maps to pages |
| 00:16.16 | Angrybirds | Me! |
| 00:16.24 | Angrybirds | http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help%3AWikia_Maps#Embedding_your_map |
| 00:16.34 | TekDroid | I probably could figure it out once I get back on PC. |
| 00:17.43 | Monet_ | I was about to suggest {{Special:Maps/[map number]}} |
| 00:17.44 | morgothBotPy | Monet_ meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Special:Maps/[map_number] |
| 00:18.00 | Hachiman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XacLk1XUZCo What the fuck is this, a battle of attrition? |
| 00:19.28 | Monet_ | Looks li a pitched battle to me |
| 00:19.32 | TekDroid | brb again |
| 00:19.38 | Monet_ | Except the attackers gngaf about formations |
| 00:19.44 | Monet_ | cngaf* |
| 00:20.11 | DrodoEmpire | Words cannot describe how much I hate movie tactics. >.< |
| 00:20.26 | DrodoEmpire | Something tells me I won't like this video. XD |
| 00:20.32 | Hachiman | The orbital bombardment was cool, well done. Why doesn't the enemy try flanking? |
| 00:20.37 | Monet_ | Beastman General - Orders my lady? | White Queen - Leave no survivors. | BGeneral - Okay. EVERYONE CHARGE TO KILL AS MANY AS YOU CAN |
| 00:20.45 | Monet_ | I wouldn't cal lthat orbital |
| 00:20.54 | Hachiman | Alright aerial |
| 00:21.07 | Hachiman | Dunno why I said orbitak |
| 00:21.12 | Hachiman | (prbital |
| 00:21.12 | Monet_ | Yeah, it looks like a reflection of the aerial combat oing on back home |
| 00:21.12 | DrodoEmpire | "Numbers do not win a battle" - Wow... Just wow. |
| 00:21.14 | Hachiman | Fuck sake |
| 00:21.28 | DrodoEmpire | While they aren't the sole factor; They're quite an advantage. :P |
| 00:21.52 | Monet_ | DrodoEmpire: Well, Peter does repsond with "no...but I bet they help" |
| 00:21.55 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 00:22.01 | DrodoEmpire | I paused before that. :P |
| 00:22.10 | Hachiman | I wonder how the White Witch managed to ever sieze Narnia with such horrendous tactics on her part |
| 00:22.51 | Monet_ | It helpes that Aslan sodded off for a bit and she froze the whole country over |
| 00:23.55 | Monet_ | So all the Narnians had to fend for themselves |
| 00:24.08 | Monet_ | At least the wolves used squad tactics |
| 00:24.13 | DrodoEmpire | A human wave? Really? |
| 00:24.15 | DrodoEmpire | Ugh... |
| 00:24.16 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 00:24.36 | TekDroid | Perhaps Narnia didn't have much of an army before she came in. |
| 00:25.14 | Hachiman | I like how the enemies chased after the defenders without even thinking that they'd get ambushed |
| 00:25.20 | Monet_ | ALso the dwarf archers are running withi nthe same mass as the melee infantry |
| 00:25.27 | Monet_ | wat da hell |
| 00:25.44 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, that's just painful to see. :P |
| 00:26.02 | DrodoEmpire | Better hope they can do double duty or they're screwed. |
| 00:26.05 | Angrybirds | I also find it weird how peter's brother draws his sword when he's all the way on a cliff. |
| 00:26.39 | Monet_ | DrodoEmpire: Does it matter the archers are 1/3 the size of the rest of the soldiers? |
| 00:26.52 | DrodoEmpire | That's true too. XD |
| 00:27.49 | Hachiman | Why is nobody shooting arrows at the fucking WHITE WITCH SHE'S RIGHT IN THE OPEN |
| 00:28.24 | Technobliterator | m-muh childhood |
| 00:28.26 | Monet_ | Also regarding the calvalry charge...the good guys are in a formation, the the bad guys aren't. |
| 00:28.28 | Technobliterator | I loved Narnia :( |
| 00:29.03 | Angrybirds | Narnia probably hasn't seen organized warfare in a hundred years. No matter these guys are all rusty. xD |
| 00:29.10 | Angrybirds | No wonder* |
| 00:29.22 | Technobliterator | HachimanUgh whenever I see a discussion about Narnia, there has to be at least ten fuckwits who go "hurr durr aslan is jesuz its all christianism pls accept big j as ur savur" |
| 00:29.24 | Technobliterator | eh |
| 00:29.46 | Technobliterator | it was based on bibilic mythology, it's not a message saying anyone should worship the bible |
| 00:29.54 | Technobliterator | people are just dumb |
| 00:29.59 | Hachiman | Aye exactly |
| 00:30.10 | Monet_ | I do see a hint of "end of days" going on. |
| 00:30.16 | Technobliterator | lots of stories are based on Greek Mythology |
| 00:30.22 | Technobliterator | are they saying we should worship zeus |
| 00:30.28 | Monet_ | A long period of cold and misery, then Jesus comes along to save us all. |
| 00:30.28 | Angrybirds | That phenix didn't do anything. xD |
| 00:31.32 | Monet_ | ALso all those archers on the hill....and only one of them fired anything |
| 00:33.06 | Monet_ | OKay they did fire...as al lthe baddies charged into the canyon |
| 00:33.08 | Hachiman | Why is everyone praising Aslan if he did fuck all |
| 00:33.23 | Monet_ | He did bring reinforcements... |
| 00:34.03 | Hachiman | Under-equipped and unarmoured folk are hardly reinforcements |
| 00:34.06 | Hachiman | More like cannon fodder |
| 00:34.17 | Wormy | "hey, look, it peed on the floor. BAD ROBOT! BAD!!!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CihMimZc3Ac |
| 00:34.25 | Monet_ | Aslan - Yeah I didn't thin kthat through... |
| 00:34.56 | Monet_ | No wonder the Telmarines i nthe sequal kicked Narnian arse. |
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| 00:36.32 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 00:36.50 | Hachiman | If the Queen wasn't asking to lose the battle, why did she not organize her infantry, why did she not stay at the back like a competent leader rather than get herself exposed, why are her soldiers disengaging to fight people 1 v 1 |
| 00:36.54 | Hachiman | *Witch |
| 00:37.12 | Hachiman | And who the fuck thought that lighting grass on fire would stop anyone |
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| 00:37.55 | Hachiman | Fire the Phoenix -> Have it aim for the White Witch -> Boom, battle finished, enemies disengage, break off and scatter |
| 00:38.01 | Angrybirds | Tybusen: |
| 00:38.02 | Monet_ | Well, it could have worked a little better if the enemy didn't have a master of ice magic leading them |
| 00:38.07 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, she could have easily repelled that ridiculous cavalry charge by keeping her infantry in tight file, and maybe arming them with something like pikes or anti-cav weapons. |
| 00:38.12 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 00:38.12 | DrodoEmpire | Or encirclement. |
| 00:38.15 | Angrybirds | [[Special:Maps/1770]] |
| 00:38.15 | morgothBotPy | Angrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1770 |
| 00:38.23 | Tybusen | Hachiman: SnK Chapter 60 is out |
| 00:38.30 | Hachiman | I'll read it later |
| 00:38.48 | Monet_ | Okay heres a compromise...Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe was a decent film, so long as one leaves out al lthe "Alsan has an army to fight off the White Witch" stuff |
| 00:38.49 | Tybusen | http://imgur.com/a/emW58 Link to the fan scanlation if you need it |
| 00:38.59 | DrodoEmpire | Just let them attack the centre, once the charge has stopped and they're engaged, swing around the wings to completely surround and destroy them. |
| 00:39.06 | Tybusen | Angrybirds: I'm liking this new maps feature |
| 00:39.26 | Hachiman | In the meantime, because of that vid I feel somewhat tempted to work on a faction consisting of fauns |
| 00:39.33 | Hachiman | Because fauns just look adorable |
| 00:39.46 | Hachiman | They remind me of Tau and Tau are <3 |
| 00:39.55 | Monet_ | Weeaboo. |
| 00:39.59 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 00:40.23 | Hachiman | They're not gonna be samurai fauns, calm down hur |
| 00:40.41 | Monet_ | You want a race of faun people who fight FOR THE GREATER GOOD lol |
| 00:40.44 | Hachiman | As awesome as that would be, I already have one suitably weaboo faction in the Fantasyverse |
| 00:42.00 | Hachiman | I'd love to see a movie that follows actual, legitimate tactics in battles, but then I have a guilty pleasure for big dumb robots punching the fuck out of one another as well hur |
| 00:42.46 | Hachiman | Although I do praise how the humans in Transformers 3 actually did something smart and used snipers to deprive Decepticons of their eyesight before going in for the big finale |
| 00:42.53 | TekDroid | There's movies based off historical battkes that probably get it right. :P |
| 00:43.59 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah. |
| 00:44.15 | DrodoEmpire | I know there's one movie, I think its called the Battle of Waterloo which is quite accurate. |
| 00:44.26 | Monet_ | I like how the beach battle inEdge of Tomorrow is portrayed to be as suicidal as the whole planned strategy was. |
| 00:44.36 | DrodoEmpire | I know I watched it a little while back |
| 00:44.45 | Hachiman | I haven't seen Edge of Tomorrow yet |
| 00:44.55 | Hachiman | It looks like it follows movie combat logic though |
| 00:45.55 | Monet_ | Hundreds of powered armoured men, soldiers are dropped via a combination of landing boats and tiltrotors (in an AA covered zone), no tank support, no quick-set-up emplacements |
| 00:46.11 | Technobliterator | HachimanThey remind me of Tau and Tau are <3 |
| 00:46.12 | Angrybirds | Hachiman : You'd love Code Geass, then. It has actual tactics and strategy, but also huge robots punching at each other. Plus, it's anime. |
| 00:46.14 | Technobliterator | yussss. |
| 00:46.27 | Monet_ | At least one of the soldiers was aware how batshit the plan was and landed stark naked aside from his power armour with a teddy bear duct-taped to the front. |
| 00:47.22 | Hachiman | ohgod what the fuck |
| 00:47.31 | Hachiman | Angrybirds: I should give it a try in that case |
| 00:48.05 | Hachiman | Monet_: So does Edge of Tomorrow actually play on the stereotypical Hollywood movie battle tactics? |
| 00:48.35 | Monet_ | Hachiman: Yeah. And the main character, upon arriving, is completely aware how fucking stupid the plan was. |
| 00:48.53 | Hachiman | Feels like a movie I'll like in that case if it actually plays with that idea |
| 00:49.51 | Monet_ | Also I won't spoil too much what the baddies are but what I wil lsay is it's not a cookie-cutter enemy. |
| 00:50.07 | Hachiman | Interesting, I gotta see this |
| 00:50.14 | Hachiman | Is it still in theatres? And what age? |
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| 00:51.26 | Wormy | Grow a beard if you can |
| 00:51.55 | Wormy | I never get asked for ID even at pubs at night and festivals if I have a beard |
| 00:52.10 | Wormy | even when all my friends get asked, some older |
| 00:52.21 | Monet_ | I tthink the screening period has passed but its a 12A |
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| 00:52.30 | Monet_ | It came out in May |
| 00:53.19 | Wormy | I can grow a proper beard |
| 00:53.50 | Monet_ | I have a mosutache |
| 00:54.08 | Wormy | I had a moustache at age 12/13 |
| 00:54.30 | Hachiman | Well, I also have a mustache, and metal hair hur |
| 00:54.41 | Hachiman | And a bit of a beard |
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| 00:55.39 | Wormy | The only problem with a beard is the fear that you could swallow some with your sandwich |
| 00:57.07 | TekAway | Now then, time to make big Katar map. :D |
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| 00:57.31 | Wormy | hi |
| 00:57.32 | DrodoEmpire | hey |
| 00:57.43 | TekAway | Hey GD12 |
| 00:57.51 | GD12 | hi |
| 00:57.59 | GD12 | lookie http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140808005712/spore/images/2/25/WarhammerClassSiegeTankPortrait.png |
| 00:58.45 | Hachiman | "Warhammer Class" |
| 00:58.48 | GD12 | Dominatus Heavy Vehicle - Siege Tank |
| 00:58.48 | GD12 | aye |
| 00:58.53 | GD12 | intentional reference |
| 00:59.00 | Wormy | in my twitter sauggestions https://twitter.com/hashtag/FeministsAreUgly?src=tren |
| 00:59.44 | Monet_ | Given that we're using a google maps lie feature, may I suggest the use of extra-large maps? |
| 00:59.46 | Tybusen | Technobliterator: Is it possible you could provide a quick link to the Maps page on one of the sidebars or something? |
| 01:00.03 | Technobliterator | sidebars? |
| 01:00.45 | Tybusen | Well, I use sidebar out of habit to describe the tabs that are always at the top of the Wiki |
| 01:01.20 | Technobliterator | topbar, you mean? |
| 01:01.21 | GD12 | All in all the tank was double over the complexity meter, so I had to match two seperate parts of it up |
| 01:01.24 | Tybusen | Yeah, topbar |
| 01:01.26 | Technobliterator | added anyway, under "More" |
| 01:01.33 | Tybusen | Alright thanks :U |
| 01:02.25 | GD12 | brb switching to mac |
| 01:09.27 | TekAway | I'm just realizing my Farengeto maps are bigger than the actual Katar map right now. XD |
| 01:09.42 | Hachiman | Oh, another thing to add to that list of things wrong with the Narnia climax battle. Witch isn't wearing ANY armour, just a dress. And instead of that kid opting to slash that bitch when he had the chance when she missed him, he just breaks her weapon. |
| 01:09.50 | Hachiman | Fuck all that did |
| 01:10.05 | TekAway | yep |
| 01:10.09 | Monet_ | Isn't the white witch some kind of ancient goddess-being-thing? |
| 01:10.15 | TekAway | yeah. |
| 01:10.23 | Hachiman | She's an otherworldly entity |
| 01:10.34 | Hachiman | But she still obeys mortality because she ends up dying |
| 01:10.51 | Monet_ | By Aslan or something else? I can't remember |
| 01:10.54 | Hachiman | Aslan |
| 01:11.10 | TekDroid | Actually I think according to the prequel she actually is from another world. Thinks she destroyed that one too. |
| 01:11.14 | Monet_ | Maybe she can't be indured by anything other than an otherworldly being? |
| 01:11.57 | Hachiman | Maybe, but I'm willing to bet that she coudl |
| 01:11.59 | Hachiman | *could |
| 01:12.00 | Monet_ | Hence "fuck armour I'm going to wear a dress made with lion Jesus' hair" |
| 01:12.13 | Wormy | I can't remember, did the movie depict the red sun |
| 01:12.49 | Wormy | i read in the book the sun turned red and cold |
| 01:13.09 | Wormy | so she must be a cosmic being |
| 01:13.31 | Hachiman | She'd had to have been immune to otherwise mortal injuries if she fights with such a crappy sword style and doesn't even wear armour, just a dress that can get in the way |
| 01:13.55 | Monet_ | Wormy: I don't tihnk the film paid any attention to the sun |
| 01:15.13 | Wormy | I might be mixing Narnia with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen |
| 01:15.58 | Hachiman | Why did the White Witch even bother showing up, the way she organized her army was destined to backfire on her, she should've just sent some other incompetent mook in her place, it would have had the same effect |
| 01:16.00 | Monet_ | After the queen died Aslan sped up time ...for some reason, and we go straight to the coronation at Cair Paravel |
| 01:17.15 | Angrybirds | This is what a map looks embedded in a page: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:France#Territory |
| 01:17.18 | Angrybirds | Very cool! |
| 01:17.41 | Angrybirds | I filled out most of the descriptions of French planets. Please take a look and tell me what you think! ^.^ |
| 01:18.20 | Monet_ | I'll ahve a look tomorrow because I need to get to bed but tomorrow I SHALL make a map for Andromeda! |
| 01:18.31 | Hachiman | That might actually be a good way to organize a map for Koldenwelt |
| 01:18.42 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 01:18.44 | Monet_ | This is just too amazing a tool |
| 01:19.40 | Angrybirds | IKR?! |
| 01:20.07 | TekDroid | I'm currently doubling the dimensions of the Katar map and expanding borders for 2802, then I'll make a map on tge wiki. |
| 01:21.51 | Hachiman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTjs5eo4BfI In other news, this is a cool duel |
| 01:22.01 | Hachiman | Mimics how polar bears fight quite well |
| 01:22.56 | Wormy | The witch in the film looked like that crazy woman I told you about |
| 01:23.17 | Hachiman | olol |
| 01:23.54 | Wormy | who liked to ring necks, satab and slap people with plancks of wood |
| 01:25.09 | OluapPlayer | What's this Map tool |
| 01:25.13 | OluapPlayer | Looks pretty useful |
| 01:25.59 | Wormy | I liked Golden Compass |
| 01:26.03 | DrodoEmpire | Its basically a thing where you put pins on a map (cities, notable battles, etc.) and can embed them into pages. |
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| 01:26.10 | Wormy | hi |
| 01:26.14 | GD12 | hi |
| 01:26.15 | OluapPlayer | Ooooh |
| 01:26.18 | DrodoEmpire | There's a message on your wall explaining it further, I believe. |
| 01:26.21 | OluapPlayer | I'm definitely gonna try this out |
| 01:26.27 | DrodoEmpire | Cool |
| 01:26.50 | OluapPlayer | I get reminded of the Notable Locations fantasyverse map |
| 01:26.56 | OluapPlayer | I feel ike this would fit like a glove |
| 01:27.00 | Hachiman | Aye definitely |
| 01:27.16 | Hachiman | Wormy: I remember seeing the film with my first girlfriend, she really enjoyed it, I loved it because of the polar bear battle |
| 01:27.40 | Wormy | That polar bear vs Aslan |
| 01:27.57 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, I posted on your talk page |
| 01:27.59 | Technobliterator | not sure if you got it |
| 01:28.01 | Wormy | Hm, I watched a really good fantasy film about witches |
| 01:28.03 | Hachiman | Considering that Iorek actually wears some form of armour and is a fucking POLAR BEAR he'd win |
| 01:28.20 | Hachiman | I don't care if Aslan is Jesus or not, polar bears just win hur |
| 01:28.37 | Technobliterator | I WILL NEVER CALL THEM MESSAGE WALLS |
| 01:28.39 | Technobliterator | NEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER |
| 01:28.41 | OluapPlayer | dumba |
| 01:28.47 | Technobliterator | ya dad |
| 01:28.59 | OluapPlayer | That Void Chronosphere looks snazzy |
| 01:29.05 | Technobliterator | I agree |
| 01:29.09 | Technobliterator | looks fucking awesome |
| 01:31.55 | OluapPlayer | Steam also looks different |
| 01:32.02 | OluapPlayer | Looks more modern-y |
| 01:33.11 | Wormy | I loved this series when I was younger http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronicles_of_Ancient_Darkness |
| 01:33.57 | Technobliterator | god, Valve are working so hard lately |
| 01:34.09 | Technobliterator | steam updates, Source 2, TI4... |
| 01:34.12 | Wormy | and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Five |
| 01:34.19 | Technobliterator | I've genuinely not seen them do this much |
| 01:34.21 | Technobliterator | ever |
| 01:34.57 | Wormy | bye |
| 01:35.39 | Hachiman | This is why you should praise Gaben |
| 01:35.56 | Technobliterator | I don't need to be told why I should praise Gaben :D |
| 01:36.16 | OluapPlayer | The Gabeard has no brakes |
| 01:37.15 | Technobliterator | oh, and they have also technically finished Techies |
| 01:37.17 | Technobliterator | dunno if you saw that |
| 01:37.30 | Technobliterator | yes, I never thought I'd see the day |
| 01:38.16 | OluapPlayer | I did |
| 01:38.33 | OluapPlayer | I'm surprised they're being released before all the others |
| 01:38.44 | OluapPlayer | I always imagined them being the last |
| 01:39.00 | Technobliterator | mhm, me too |
| 01:39.14 | Technobliterator | but I think it'll be a multi hero patch at the end of this august |
| 01:39.28 | OluapPlayer | Ok so |
| 01:39.29 | OluapPlayer | Maps |
| 01:39.34 | Technobliterator | yep, maps |
| 01:39.35 | OluapPlayer | how do I make dese |
| 01:39.41 | Technobliterator | [[Special:Maps]] |
| 01:39.41 | morgothBotPy | Technobliterator meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps |
| 01:39.45 | Technobliterator | like I linked in your talk page |
| 01:39.51 | Technobliterator | top right is an option to create |
| 01:40.13 | Technobliterator | You just add stuff to an already existing image |
| 01:41.34 | OluapPlayer | rite I'll try it out |
| 01:41.51 | Technobliterator | it's fun and ez to do |
| 01:42.06 | Technobliterator | do you want to do it for Borealis or shall I? |
| 01:42.29 | OluapPlayer | I'm not doing Borealis yet |
| 01:42.37 | OluapPlayer | But you can start it I guess |
| 01:44.59 | OluapPlayer | Pin category |
| 01:45.01 | OluapPlayer | fuk |
| 01:45.03 | OluapPlayer | help hur |
| 01:45.06 | Technobliterator | it's easy |
| 01:45.11 | Technobliterator | just make something like "Empire" |
| 01:45.19 | Technobliterator | and then add "Empire" pin categories everywhere |
| 01:48.56 | OluapPlayer | I'm gonna need better-looking pins |
| 01:50.54 | Hachiman | Is there a proper term for a fishing boat? |
| 01:51.05 | Technobliterator | yes |
| 01:51.07 | Technobliterator | fishing boat |
| 01:51.12 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 01:51.20 | Hachiman | rite |
| 01:51.30 | Technobliterator | or fishing vessel |
| 01:51.32 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 02:03.59 | Hachiman | http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii259/Aruberikku/Korean%20War/Turtleship.jpg I'm tempted to give some Naval Guilds ships that function similar to this |
| 02:04.08 | Hachiman | Minus cannons because I dunno if Lagosi use cannons |
| 02:05.07 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, the good ol' turtleship |
| 02:05.24 | DrodoEmpire | Well Hachi, the Halifaxians could trade gunpowder. :P |
| 02:05.31 | DrodoEmpire | If you want. |
| 02:05.40 | Hachiman | Halifaxians and Lagosi aren't anywhere near one another though |
| 02:05.44 | DrodoEmpire | This of course depends on where- |
| 02:05.46 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, alright |
| 02:06.02 | Hachiman | Lagosi are like just on the edge of known Koldenwelt |
| 02:06.03 | *** join/#sporewiki OfficerJackal (~OfficerJa@c-69-139-46-236.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 02:06.48 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, okay |
| 02:07.04 | DrodoEmpire | Though, if they're an island nation this mitigates the distance issue |
| 02:09.13 | Hachiman | They're an island nation but severely reclusive |
| 02:09.20 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
| 02:09.56 | DrodoEmpire | So even if the Halifaxians arrive, there offers would likely be rejected, if not violently repelled. |
| 02:10.22 | Hachiman | Pretty much |
| 02:10.36 | DrodoEmpire | Okay |
| 02:11.15 | Hachiman | Plus Lagosi are all "muh culture" and would fear that the innovation of gunpowder would heavily affect their society |
| 02:11.39 | DrodoEmpire | Pretty reasonable concern; Look at the samurai. |
| 02:11.42 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 02:11.47 | Hachiman | Aye exactly |
| 02:12.10 | DrodoEmpire | After gunpowder, especially Gatling guns and Minie rifles (rifled muskets) in the 1800's destroyed there status as warriors |
| 02:12.14 | OluapPlayer | Well I've done this |
| 02:12.17 | OluapPlayer | It works nicely |
| 02:12.21 | Hachiman | Aww yiss |
| 02:13.53 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: One thing that always got to me is that in movies and in other media, Samurai are nearly always depicted... without shields |
| 02:14.12 | DrodoEmpire | I always thought they rarely if ever used them |
| 02:14.25 | DrodoEmpire | Did they? |
| 02:14.30 | Hachiman | I'm really not sure |
| 02:14.37 | Hachiman | They were primarily ranged combatants |
| 02:14.52 | DrodoEmpire | True |
| 02:14.59 | Hachiman | That and the armour they wore was packing in defensive capability anyway and probably weighed a bit |
| 02:15.29 | DrodoEmpire | It was lighter than european examples, though good at blocking arrows and the like |
| 02:15.36 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 02:15.37 | Hachiman | I guess the addition of a shield would have made maneuverability and balance more difficult for them |
| 02:16.02 | DrodoEmpire | I think the samurai mostly used there katanas as there defence; East asian combat styles tend to be lightning-fast; A shield may have been a burden. |
| 02:16.13 | Hachiman | Aye exactly |
| 02:16.20 | Hachiman | Katanas are sidearms |
| 02:16.27 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, weapons anyway |
| 02:16.31 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry. >.< |
| 02:16.43 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1776 not much else to add |
| 02:16.44 | DrodoEmpire | Yari, naginata, katana, nodachi, whichever |
| 02:17.05 | Hachiman | Well no, your traditional katana as cultists see it are actually sidearms |
| 02:17.30 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 02:17.36 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: Oh sweet that works really well |
| 02:18.02 | DrodoEmpire | Oluap: Perhaps we should do this or overlay this with the Political map>? |
| 02:18.04 | DrodoEmpire | *? |
| 02:18.23 | Technobliterator | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 02:18.26 | Technobliterator | okay so |
| 02:18.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 02:18.53 | Technobliterator | someone just commented on justin bieber being punched in the face by some other geezer who is apparently notorious for being a pussy |
| 02:19.08 | OluapPlayer | Do this with the Political map, yes |
| 02:19.13 | OluapPlayer | But they should stay separated |
| 02:19.23 | OluapPlayer | for the sake of not clogging it up with pins |
| 02:19.24 | Technobliterator | the comment: "World's biggest pussy got beaten up by world's second biggest pussy. I haven't seen pussies collide like this since the last time I watched lesbian porn." |
| 02:19.35 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 02:20.02 | TekDroid | I should probably ask, is it possible to update a map's background image? |
| 02:20.12 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: You mean Orlando Bloom? |
| 02:20.17 | Technobliterator | That'd be him |
| 02:20.30 | OluapPlayer | Gonna get dinner brb |
| 02:20.30 | Hachiman | Apparently Leonardo DiCaprio was cheering Orlando on |
| 02:20.41 | Technobliterator | hah |
| 02:21.05 | *** join/#sporewiki GD12 (43b4106f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.180.16.111) |
| 02:21.16 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 02:21.25 | GD12 | Hello |
| 02:21.52 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Yeah you're right, the Samurai were range and speed-oriented combatants so it made sense they didn't use shields, especially when their relatively light armour defended them against arrows pretty well. It just always made me a bit confused up until recently. |
| 02:22.05 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 02:22.29 | DrodoEmpire | Considering there direct neighbours, the Chinese and Koreans used shields it is unusual. |
| 02:22.36 | DrodoEmpire | *thei |
| 02:22.40 | DrodoEmpire | **their |
| 02:23.51 | TekDroid | For the most part Japan developed in relative isolation, didn't it? |
| 02:23.51 | GD12 | hmm most random thought has crossed my mind |
| 02:24.00 | GD12 | aye i think |
| 02:24.11 | Technobliterator | mostly |
| 02:24.12 | Hachiman | Aye pretty much, it was very isolated |
| 02:24.14 | Technobliterator | Japan is <3 |
| 02:24.18 | DrodoEmpire | Not really; It adopted a lot of Chinese culture and principles at least in its early years. |
| 02:24.21 | Technobliterator | my favourite country in the world |
| 02:24.32 | DrodoEmpire | And it was within spitting distance of Korea |
| 02:24.50 | DrodoEmpire | It went through periods of isolation, but opened its doors other times. |
| 02:24.50 | Hachiman | But outside of early Chinese influence, it was pretty much on its own |
| 02:25.08 | TekDroid | I did say relative isolation, after all. |
| 02:25.29 | Technobliterator | it had US influence post-world war 2 |
| 02:25.37 | Hachiman | It had US influence pre-WW1 |
| 02:25.47 | GD12 | aye |
| 02:25.49 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, during the mid-1800's. :P |
| 02:25.54 | GD12 | much european influence during the meiji restoration |
| 02:26.00 | Hachiman | It was intervention from the United States that caused the Meiji Restoration |
| 02:26.15 | *** join/#sporewiki Tybusen (44e45f51@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.228.95.81) |
| 02:26.22 | Hachiman | And the official decline of shogun and daimyo and the likes as well as the rehabilitation and execution of samurai |
| 02:26.29 | GD12 | Commodore Perry |
| 02:26.56 | TekDroid | What I found interesting about Japan recently was how it became one of the few states not to be conquered by Europeans, and turned around to build its own brief empire. |
| 02:27.03 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:27.07 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 02:27.12 | GD12 | Aye |
| 02:27.16 | Tybusen | Japan was absolutely determined to not end up like China |
| 02:27.25 | GD12 | Only ones I can think of are Japan and Ethiopia |
| 02:27.39 | Hachiman | GD12: Difference is that Japan has food |
| 02:27.46 | TekDroid | Still European influence but at a time Europeans owned 90% of the world they were one of the couple of their own. |
| 02:27.47 | Tybusen | Japan partially accomplished their goal of not getting conquered like China by conquering some of China |
| 02:27.51 | GD12 | ture hur |
| 02:27.55 | DrodoEmpire | It did what very few nations could; It played off of the Imperialists and turned there own plan basically against them to become an empire. |
| 02:28.04 | TekDroid | Yeah. |
| 02:28.09 | GD12 | that and they also beat a european power in a straightup war |
| 02:28.15 | GD12 | Russo-Japanese war |
| 02:28.18 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, craziest of all. :P |
| 02:28.40 | GD12 | and stomped on China a bit when it helped the whities during the supressing of the Boxer rebellion |
| 02:28.47 | Tybusen | Also, the European powers kinda freaked out when Japan won the First Sino-Japanese War |
| 02:29.01 | GD12 | aye |
| 02:29.19 | GD12 | Japan - u c we has indus3 2 |
| 02:29.22 | DrodoEmpire | And then there's Ethiopia, which curbstomped Italy using mostly traditional weapons and tactics; With a small core of russian mercenaries and stolen weapons. |
| 02:29.29 | GD12 | Japan - All ur technology is ours |
| 02:29.37 | Hachiman | A small island empire actually kicking the ass of one of the largest European powers that ended up being crucial in putting an end to Nazi influence throughout the world and the downfall of the Axis |
| 02:29.44 | GD12 | aye [19:27] <GD12> Only ones I can think of are Japan and Ethiopia |
| 02:29.50 | GD12 | aye i agree |
| 02:29.50 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 02:30.06 | GD12 | Japan started the Pacific War in a very stomping manner |
| 02:30.15 | Tybusen | Japan was doomed to failure though |
| 02:30.16 | TekDroid | My two favourite Imperial powers were both island nations. XD |
| 02:30.18 | GD12 | Japan - Singapore is the worlds most defended fortress on this hemisphere |
| 02:30.23 | GD12 | CHALLENGE ACCEPTED |
| 02:30.33 | GD12 | tldr bikes OP |
| 02:30.46 | Tybusen | Once America started cutting off their oil, Japan was between a wall and a hard place |
| 02:30.50 | Hachiman | Now you can see why I was inspired by Japan to make Min Lagosi hur |
| 02:31.34 | GD12 | aye |
| 02:31.54 | Tybusen | I think Turkey also mostly avoided colonization even though the rest of the Ottoman Empire got carved up by Europe |
| 02:32.02 | TekDroid | Gotta wonder how things might have turned out differently if Japan wasn't forced to rely on all that foreign oil. |
| 02:32.15 | GD12 | #ataturk |
| 02:32.34 | OluapPlayer | ok back |
| 02:32.38 | TekDroid | Tybusen: Turkey is still technically kinda European though. |
| 02:32.53 | Hachiman | Yeah, that's Japan's greatest vulnerability really; their island chain isn't resourceful in the slightest, which is why during the Feudal Era they were very conservative with iron and such |
| 02:33.10 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: welcum bak fagit |
| 02:33.27 | OluapPlayer | shup u dik worshipper |
| 02:34.37 | Tybusen | TekDroid: It's way more Middle Eastern than European |
| 02:35.46 | GD12 | Tybusen : I think he was referring to Istanbul/Constantinople |
| 02:35.48 | GD12 | hence "technically" |
| 02:35.49 | Tybusen | Hachiman: I still think that still makes Japan more badass because they created an empire to rival that of the Western empires with their shitastic resources |
| 02:35.58 | GD12 | yeah |
| 02:36.04 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 02:36.06 | GD12 | the US and USSR had continents to themselves |
| 02:36.15 | GD12 | Germany had a fuckmassive part of central europe |
| 02:36.23 | Tybusen | Japan had a chain of islands in the Pacific and Korea |
| 02:36.27 | GD12 | france had a big part and some sick colonies |
| 02:36.32 | GD12 | and britain had shload of colonies |
| 02:36.54 | GD12 | and Japan only got into the whole empire thing once the world was for the most part carved up |
| 02:37.03 | Tybusen | Britain practically had the entire Indian sub-continent to themselves |
| 02:37.11 | Tybusen | Not to mention all of that Middle Eastern oil |
| 02:37.30 | GD12 | can't forget that hur |
| 02:37.43 | Hachiman | Also, Japan founded a fuck-off powerful empire in the span of about just a century, if not less |
| 02:37.46 | TekDroid | Britain owned a quarter of the world at its peak. :P |
| 02:38.05 | Tybusen | Japan jumped from feudal agrarian society to industrial power in less than 50 years |
| 02:38.14 | TekDroid | Indeed |
| 02:38.27 | GD12 | yeah |
| 02:38.45 | Tybusen | They literally took what took Europe 200 years to accomplish and smashed it down into a quarter of that length |
| 02:39.03 | OluapPlayer | The weeaboo stench is too strong here |
| 02:39.16 | Hachiman | fuk u |
| 02:39.18 | TekDroid | Though for Japan, Europeans had already ibvented the tech. |
| 02:39.19 | DrodoEmpire | Though to be fair they also had all of that technology available at least to an extent. :P |
| 02:39.37 | DrodoEmpire | So of course it'd be a shorter time. |
| 02:39.46 | DrodoEmpire | Though it is still quite remarkable |
| 02:39.52 | Tybusen | Still, they managed to industrialize an entire country in 50 years |
| 02:39.55 | GD12 | aye |
| 02:39.58 | DrodoEmpire | It very well could have backfired. |
| 02:40.20 | GD12 | they could have been as successful as the italians *dripping with sarcasm* |
| 02:40.23 | Hachiman | So in less than a century, Japan went from a feudal, fractured society to an industrialized superpower that defeated the Russians and the Chinese by themselves as well as rivaled the European and American superpowers on fantashit resources due to just a relative nudge from the US in the 1800s |
| 02:40.46 | DrodoEmpire | Basically. XD |
| 02:40.49 | Tybusen | You look at countries still in the process of industrialization like China and India and you realize that Japan accomplished an incredibly difficult feat for any country in only 50 years |
| 02:41.01 | DrodoEmpire | Amazing how the smallest things can alter the course of history. |
| 02:41.18 | Hachiman | And now they're one of the most innovative nations in the world, one of the most economically thriving, and one of the heads in the entirety of the media industry |
| 02:41.28 | Tybusen | And that is why America is the greatest nation in the world /brick'd |
| 02:42.38 | Tybusen | Japan whooping China's ass isn't as impressive since China was so broken at that time that anyone with industrial-era tech could stop by and take what they wanted from China |
| 02:42.56 | Hachiman | True but consider the differences in size between Japan and China |
| 02:43.01 | GD12 | bbl |
| 02:43.03 | Tybusen | I mean, America's foreign policy regarding China was literally called the Open Door Policy |
| 02:43.10 | Hachiman | A small island chain conquered an entire country |
| 02:43.16 | TekDroid | There's no disputing that Japan's fame is well earned. |
| 02:43.46 | Tybusen | Well, they didn't conquer all of China, the most that they managed to consolidate was Manchuria |
| 02:44.04 | Tybusen | But they still defeated a nation with vastly superior resources at their disposal, so there's that |
| 02:44.34 | DrodoEmpire | It was also severely drained and unstable. :P |
| 02:44.47 | DrodoEmpire | Back then, China was in a very rough shape |
| 02:45.10 | Tybusen | Sometimes you have to feel bad for China because 80% of their history is getting roughed up by foreigners |
| 02:45.20 | Angrybirds | At the time, China was basically Beijing. |
| 02:45.51 | DrodoEmpire | Qing rule was either on the verge of collapse or already had and had been superseded by warlords, and possessed an obsolete military; It was a turkey-shoot for the Japanese. |
| 02:46.16 | Tybusen | If you're talking about First Sino-Japanese War China, then it was Qing on the verge of collapse |
| 02:46.25 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, I mean both. |
| 02:46.36 | DrodoEmpire | And in both cases China was in an extremely rough shape |
| 02:46.42 | Tybusen | If you're talking about WWII China, then it's a China divided up between Chiang Kai-Shek and Mao Zedong |
| 02:47.08 | DrodoEmpire | I know. |
| 02:47.24 | Tybusen | And literally the only thing holding Chiang and Mao together was the fact that they were both gonna be dead if the Japanese won |
| 02:48.08 | Tybusen | Japan did do some ugly things during WWII though |
| 02:48.55 | TekDroid | Indeed. |
| 02:51.10 | Hachiman | Japan's been doing ugly things for a long time, even before the WWs |
| 02:51.22 | Hachiman | Including the invention of tentacle porn :P |
| 02:52.05 | Hachiman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman's_Wife As exampled (NSFW) |
| 02:52.23 | Tybusen | That's just the weird side of Japan |
| 02:52.43 | Hachiman | Jo left to dream of occupi |
| 02:52.48 | Hachiman | Octopi* |
| 02:53.49 | Tybusen | I can never tell what the state of civil rights is in Japan because one day I'll hear about how the Japanese tolerate homosexuality as long as it's not publicly displayed (like with all forms of affection in Japan) |
| 02:54.12 | Tybusen | And then the next day I'll hear about how women get raped in broad daylight in Japan in public areas and no one cares |
| 02:54.51 | Tybusen | It's just hard to tell what's going on in any East Asian country in general |
| 02:56.11 | Tybusen | Like all I know about China is that they're pretty run-of-the-mill authoritarian that cracks down on journalism and freedom of speech but beyond that I don't know what the state of social issues is like in China |
| 02:57.18 | TekDroid | Uploading v1 of the new Katar map... |
| 02:58.29 | TekDroid | This is taking a lot longer than usual... :/ |
| 02:59.29 | TekDroid | kicks Wikia |
| 03:00.38 | TekDroid | It's a freaking 1MB file. :/ |
| 03:02.19 | TekDroid | ~test |
| 03:02.20 | infobot | rumour has it, test is not funny |
| 03:02.46 | TekDroid | Anyone having troubles uploading images? |
| 03:03.45 | Hachiman | Oluap's been having trouble updating the current Koldenwelt map |
| 03:03.54 | Hachiman | It's been refusing to update for several days I think |
| 03:04.15 | TekDroid | Not even that, this thing won't upload. |
| 03:04.25 | TekDroid | Still waiting. |
| 03:04.59 | TekDroid | About 5 minutes of waiting now, and this is my third try. |
| 03:07.42 | Angrybirds | Upload it as a brand new file? |
| 03:08.10 | TekDroid | That's what I'm doing. >.< |
| 03:08.40 | TekDroid | It's not that it's not updating, it's not even uploading. |
| 03:09.08 | TekDroid | I'm still on that "upload a photo" menu. >.< |
| 03:12.07 | Angrybirds | Send the file to me and I'll give it a shot? |
| 03:13.01 | TekDroid | I think the upload timed out. -.- |
| 03:13.09 | Angrybirds | Send it. |
| 03:13.33 | TekDroid | Nevermind, working now. |
| 03:14.11 | Angrybirds | Dat beautiful blue and yellow |
| 03:14.45 | TekDroid | No names yet and need to redo the stars. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140808031320/spore/images/3/36/Katar_2802.png |
| 03:15.01 | TekDroid | Angrybirds DrodoEmpire OfficerJackal |
| 03:15.06 | OfficerJackal | Hm? |
| 03:15.07 | Angrybirds | The stars are fine. |
| 03:15.37 | OfficerJackal | Oh, right! Looks pretty good so far. :) |
| 03:15.49 | OfficerJackal | Why is the FPC blue though? |
| 03:15.57 | TekDroid | French Andromeda. |
| 03:16.09 | Angrybirds | FPC fell apart. |
| 03:16.12 | TekDroid | FPC collapses and is annexed. |
| 03:16.21 | OfficerJackal | Wait, so the FPC is completely gone now? |
| 03:16.25 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 03:16.27 | TekDroid | Aye. |
| 03:16.34 | Angrybirds | I have yet to upload the story... I should do that now. |
| 03:17.14 | TekDroid | Everything except the Mardor and lower Katar also grew in size. |
| 03:17.30 | TekDroid | Farengeto in particular had a big colonial boom. |
| 03:17.42 | Angrybirds | Some parts were annexed by the DI, others by French Andromeda, and the main territory was split between rebels. |
| 03:17.48 | OfficerJackal | While Watchta is still the space version of a burned hole in the ground. XD |
| 03:18.04 | TekDroid | I can fix that when you let me know what to do. |
| 03:18.15 | OfficerJackal | Ah, alright. Well, I guess it was bound to happen. |
| 03:19.08 | Angrybirds | So French Andromeda has extragalactic colonies in the Milky Way now. |
| 03:19.15 | Angrybirds | This totally makes sense. |
| 03:19.30 | Angrybirds | A colony of France has colonies |
| 03:19.32 | TekDroid | The colony has colonies in its original territory. XD |
| 03:19.37 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 03:19.53 | TekDroid | *mind screw* |
| 03:20.46 | OfficerJackal | Lol. |
| 03:21.34 | TekDroid | And unrelated but this was very clever: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/LuKikww? |
| 03:35.19 | TekDroid | Alright, fixing the Katar map to add names, then I'm creating the actual map. |
| 03:38.37 | Angrybirds | DrodoEmpire: The Drodo could close that gap at some point. xD |
| 03:38.52 | DrodoEmpire | Probably should, yes. XD |
| 03:39.35 | Angrybirds | It's been seven years, they'd likely be able to pack colonists in that expanse. It'd be a massive frontier with a few population centers, but the Drodo could keep ahold of it. |
| 03:40.12 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah; Probably in the next few in-universe months/years they will gradually fill it |
| 03:40.15 | TekDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.26 | TekDroid | This map is for 2802. |
| 03:40.28 | OfficerJackal | raises red flag. |
| 03:40.34 | DrodoEmpire | It'd be a start- |
| 03:40.36 | OfficerJackal | As long as they do not enter/get too close to watchta. |
| 03:40.38 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 03:40.41 | DrodoEmpire | They won;t. |
| 03:40.45 | DrodoEmpire | *won't |
| 03:40.46 | OfficerJackal | Alright. :) |
| 03:41.11 | TekDroid | I might also modify to close gaps betweem Farengeto territories in Delcath. |
| 03:41.12 | DrodoEmpire | lowers OJ's red flag and takes a white one from AB's collection |
| 03:41.37 | Angrybirds | shoots DrodoEmpire with a gun from his collection. |
| 03:42.15 | DrodoEmpire | limps to the nearest hospital and gets fixed up for free, cuz Canada |
| 03:42.20 | OfficerJackal | slams them both with a dildo from Galak's collection. |
| 03:42.25 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
| 03:42.36 | Angrybirds | plzno |
| 03:42.42 | DrodoEmpire | Well he would have a collection, |
| 03:42.44 | DrodoEmpire | but wat |
| 03:43.10 | OfficerJackal | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbasol#mediaviewer/File:Barbasol_Original_10oz_sm.jpg - ERRR SHAKE THE BARBASOL CANNNNNN. |
| 03:44.04 | TekDroid | Okay, so I can't seem to make Empires as pins. |
| 03:44.34 | DrodoEmpire | Well, usually landmasses can't be fit onto the end of a thumbtack. :P |
| 03:44.53 | DrodoEmpire | That'll probably need to be an entirely new feature |
| 03:44.57 | DrodoEmpire | With borders and whatwith. |
| 03:45.44 | TekDroid | Yeah, it shrinks the whole marker down to very small right now. |
| 03:47.06 | TekDroid | DrodoEmpire: so would you like me to close the gap a bit on the map? |
| 03:47.13 | DrodoEmpire | Sure |
| 03:48.00 | TekDroid | Should they be connected or just closer? |
| 03:48.02 | Angrybirds | TekDroid: You should add hyperlanes to the map |
| 03:48.26 | Angrybirds | TekDroid: I think they should be connected along hyperlanes, and colonies usually sprout around hyperlanes. |
| 03:50.59 | TekDroid | I'll start throwing in hyperlanes then. Should be easy since there's only 4 hyperspatial powers. |
| 03:51.12 | TekDroid | *6 |
| 03:51.22 | TekDroid | nevermind. XD |
| 04:01.06 | TekDroid | Okay, plotting the current hyperlanes in Katar... |
| 04:02.01 | TekDroid | So far I have ones connecting Farengeto territories and Delcathian and Varapha trade partners. |
| 04:04.30 | TekDroid | I'm adding another that runs from the Ezlang OZ, through DI territory and across French Andromeda to the wormhole. You good with that, Angrybirds? |
| 04:06.16 | Angrybirds | Definitely. |
| 04:06.57 | TekDroid | That one's more the result of Farengeto-DI trade and DI route home. :P |
| 04:08.39 | TekDroid | There's one world in the Tausan Republic (Farengeto Occupation Zone) that'd probably be quiet busy, as it's a small gap where it sticks out between GTE and Drodo. XD |
| 04:11.45 | Angrybirds | ooooodere. |
| 04:12.23 | TekDroid | You can see it clearly on the map. |
| 04:13.54 | TekDroid | I'll also throw in another that runs from there through the Drodo and Sindar OZ and to the wormhole if you and DrodoEmpire are fine with it. |
| 04:14.08 | DrodoEmpire | Okay |
| 04:14.08 | Angrybirds | np |
| 04:14.30 | Angrybirds | French Andromeda - Moar trade |
| 04:14.32 | OfficerJackal | Meanwhile in Watchta - *Group of bandits gun down a civilian on a outer-world.* |
| 04:16.13 | TekDroid | Given KSA and GITO is it safe to assume connections from Coron 4 to the Andromeda wormhole and Farengeto wormhole? |
| 04:18.10 | Angrybirds | DrodoEmpire |
| 04:18.16 | Angrybirds | OfficerJackal: |
| 04:18.33 | Angrybirds | [[Fiction:Ballatay#Foreign Minister of France]] |
| 04:18.33 | morgothBotPy | Angrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ballatay#Foreign_Minister_of_France |
| 04:19.06 | DrodoEmpire | Yes AB? |
| 04:19.28 | TekDroid | I should throw in a few now useless connections to Watcha from rhe Drodo/FPC occupation days. |
| 04:20.10 | OfficerJackal | Perhaps, but make sure you make the connections seem a bit decrepid so people don't mistake those for actual working trade routes. |
| 04:20.31 | Angrybirds | DrodoEmpire : [21:16] <TekDroid> Given KSA and GITO is it safe to assume connections from Coron 4 to the Andromeda wormhole and Farengeto wormhole? |
| 04:20.42 | DrodoEmpire | Oh |
| 04:20.43 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, |
| 04:25.24 | TekDroid | Here's what I have so far. (using imgur so we don't have to wait for updates) http://i.imgur.com/42WxKTv.png |
| 04:25.59 | Angrybirds | Very nice. You might want to fade out those lines and perhaps make them glow. |
| 04:26.15 | Angrybirds | Also, we're labeling planets in the maps tool on the wiki? |
| 04:26.25 | DrodoEmpire | I think so. |
| 04:26.35 | Angrybirds | And don't forget a link to Frontier 1, which is off the map to the South. |
| 04:26.37 | TekDroid | Yeah, adding effects once I've got it all. And planets will be done with the maps, yes. |
| 04:27.13 | TekDroid | I'll also need to add an offscreen lane to the south then. |
| 04:28.02 | TekDroid | Will anyone have hyperlanes with the Sindar? |
| 04:28.41 | TekDroid | Besides the one connecting the OZ to the Dominion. |
| 04:29.24 | TekDroid | Angrybirds DrodoEmpire? |
| 04:29.42 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno |
| 04:29.47 | DrodoEmpire | They're mostly inactive. :P |
| 04:29.54 | Angrybirds | Sindar are pretty isolationist as far as we can tell. |
| 04:30.29 | TekDroid | Any ones that exist are probably left over from AD. |
| 04:30.58 | Angrybirds | Those wouldn't by hyperlanes |
| 04:31.07 | TekDroid | Ah. |
| 04:32.11 | Angrybirds | be* |
| 04:34.31 | TekDroid | OfficerJackal: For the Watcha hyperlanes I have them stuck behind the blob for Watcha which made them get thinner and darker as it approaches. |
| 04:36.34 | OfficerJackal | Sounds good. :) |
| 04:48.35 | TekDroid | Updated. http://i.imgur.com/nXOBh2C.png |
| 04:48.45 | TekDroid | Angrybirds DrodoEmpire OfficerJackal |
| 04:49.00 | DrodoEmpire | Excellent. |
| 04:49.36 | OfficerJackal | Looks good. |
| 04:49.37 | Angrybirds | Very cool. |
| 04:49.41 | TekDroid | This thing will actually autocomplete the other two of you when I start a line with Angrybirds. XD |
| 04:50.17 | TekDroid | Any other additions? |
| 04:51.20 | TekDroid | I'll add ones branching left offscreen for France and DI |
| 04:53.22 | Angrybirds | There's the Draconis Concordat Route which should theoretically pass through Katar. |
| 04:53.58 | TekDroid | Should that pass through anyone? |
| 04:54.31 | Angrybirds | I'm not sure. Does anyone want it to pass through them? |
| 04:54.41 | Angrybirds | It probably shouldn't since it's old. |
| 04:55.05 | TekDroid | I'll have it run near the top then. |
| 04:56.38 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 04:58.04 | TekDroid | Basically it's a curvy path that avoids every known empire. XD |
| 04:59.24 | TekDroid | Hm... no matter what I do it runs near the Ezlangei... *adds a connection* |
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| 05:01.04 | GD12 | hello |
| 05:01.33 | Angrybirds | GD12: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:France#Territory |
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| 05:06.25 | TekDroid | Whoops |
| 05:23.15 | Angrybirds | HAHA |
| 05:23.29 | GD12 | wot |
| 05:24.17 | Angrybirds | TekDroid: I was playing Skyrim, and an undead enemy lured me into a trap which was this huge battering ram thing which was supposed to come crashing down on me. Only, in the scuffle, the undead moved forward INTO THE PATH OF THE RAM just as I dodged to the side. |
| 05:24.20 | Angrybirds | Boom. |
| 05:24.36 | TekDroid | XD |
| 05:25.06 | GD12 | noice |
| 05:27.20 | TekDroid | I just played around with the map and hid any factions owned by inactive users... |
| 05:27.45 | TekDroid | It's actually fuller than you'd probably expect. XD |
| 05:29.50 | Angrybirds | *just ran into a "Draugr Death Overlord"* |
| 05:29.56 | Angrybirds | OOOOOOODERE. |
| 05:30.19 | Angrybirds | holy shh. I've just been one-shotte.d |
| 05:30.22 | TekDroid | lol |
| 05:30.26 | TekDroid | odere indeed |
| 05:31.13 | OfficerJackal | Be right back, need to restart computer, aparrently it's running low on memory. |
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| 05:37.26 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 05:37.26 | OfficerJackal | Back again! |
| 05:37.37 | OfficerJackal | Annndddd Anti-Virus is acting weird. |
| 05:37.38 | OfficerJackal | Wtf. |
| 05:38.01 | OfficerJackal | Turn on plz. |
| 05:39.29 | TekDroid | What anti-virus is it? |
| 05:39.44 | OfficerJackal | Trend Micro Titanium Maximum Security 2013 |
| 05:39.51 | OfficerJackal | The name is a bit weird. :/ |
| 05:40.34 | OfficerJackal | Lately it's been acting glitchy as fuck, interrupting connection to the internet until it's turned off and shit. |
| 05:42.37 | OfficerJackal | Although I contacted Tech Support a few days ago, so it should be fine... |
| 06:00.51 | TekDroid | Angrybirds: What should the French territory be labelled as? |
| 06:02.28 | Liquid_Ink | "France" |
| 06:03.12 | TekDroid | It's French Andromedan territory. |
| 06:05.33 | TekDroid | French Andromeda has colonies in the Milky Way now. XD |
| 06:05.51 | Angrybirds | Confederation of Lower Katar |
| 06:07.08 | TekDroid | Got it. |
| 06:07.44 | TekDroid | France is one of the two empires that get 96pt font. XD |
| 06:08.17 | TekDroid | I use one of several sizes based on power. |
| 06:08.42 | TekDroid | Also what fits in. :P |
| 06:09.34 | Angrybirds | Actually, just mark, "French Andromeda" |
| 06:09.36 | Angrybirds | plz |
| 06:09.37 | Angrybirds | sorry |
| 06:10.37 | TekDroid | Alright. |
| 06:11.38 | Liquid_Ink | Wait |
| 06:11.53 | OfficerJackal | I liked Confederation of Lower Katar though, it made it sound unique and like it had some autonomy to it. |
| 06:11.54 | Liquid_Ink | Why does French Andromeda have colonies in the Milky Way? |
| 06:12.21 | TekDroid | It annexed a collapsing FPC. |
| 06:12.33 | Angrybirds | The FPC fell apart and French Andromeda swooped in and vassalized some of its components. |
| 06:12.33 | TekDroid | Which had territory in the Milky Way. |
| 06:13.03 | Angrybirds | HOLY FRICK THAT IS A GIANT SPIDE |
| 06:13.06 | Angrybirds | SPIDER |
| 06:13.19 | TekDroid | Skyrim or RL? |
| 06:13.25 | Angrybirds | Skyrim. |
| 06:13.40 | Liquid_Ink | Have you only just started playing it? |
| 06:13.52 | TekDroid | I know I encountered some giant one when I played it once. |
| 06:13.52 | Angrybirds | No, I've been at it for a while. xD |
| 06:16.11 | Tybusen | Well shit |
| 06:16.20 | Tybusen | I've edited the new TIAF map 112 times already |
| 06:16.21 | Angrybirds | Hm? |
| 06:16.55 | Tybusen | The last 50 edits on the Wiki were all mine and they were all to the new TIAF map :U |
| 06:17.19 | TekDroid | lol. easy edit count. |
| 06:18.04 | Tybusen | Actually, map edits don't count towards your edit count |
| 06:19.03 | Angrybirds | Link? ^.^ |
| 06:19.03 | TekDroid | oh. |
| 06:19.08 | Liquid_Ink | I think the Ottomans need to improve their relations with the East Asian Coalition. |
| 06:21.26 | Tybusen | Angrybirds: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1788 Look at all those points |
| 06:22.08 | Angrybirds | Oh my god. xD |
| 06:22.38 | TekDroid | O.O |
| 06:23.03 | TekDroid | Hm... now for the naming nightmare... |
| 06:23.14 | Angrybirds | Do you want to replace those black dots with the small ones on my map? |
| 06:23.35 | TekDroid | Angrybirds: do you know how to make those accented "e"s? |
| 06:23.50 | Angrybirds | é |
| 06:23.57 | Angrybirds | copy-paste that |
| 06:24.03 | Tybusen | Black dots work better for my maps because my maps tend to have lighter colors and black contrasts better against light color than white |
| 06:25.42 | Tybusen | And besides, once you zoom in, it's not as bad |
| 06:27.20 | Angrybirds | I just conjured a battleaxe out of thin air because I'm a badass like that. |
| 06:27.34 | TekDroid | lol |
| 06:31.31 | TekDroid | Labelled Katar is complete... |
| 06:33.28 | Angrybirds | Link! |
| 06:36.10 | TekDroid | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1791 |
| 06:36.33 | TekDroid | Oh wait... forgot hyperlane to Cyrannus wormhole... |
| 06:38.58 | OfficerJackal | Looks good. :) Say, how do I edit those map thingys? I want to add a description to Watchta. |
| 06:40.06 | TekDroid | Drop a pin (bottom right) |
| 06:41.41 | TekDroid | Don't edit it now, need to replace image. |
| 06:45.19 | TekDroid | Fixed map up soon. |
| 06:46.49 | TekDroid | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1792 |
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| 06:48.58 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 06:50.37 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 06:54.54 | Angrybirds | TekDroid: Is it just me, or are the Farengeto occupation zones missing? |
| 06:55.08 | TekDroid | Damnit. |
| 06:57.02 | TekDroid | There really should be an option to replace the background. -.- |
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| 06:59.39 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 07:00.25 | Imperios | Hello |
| 07:00.36 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 07:00.54 | TekDroid | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1793 Hopefully this is the final one. >.< |
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| 07:04.06 | TekDroid | Hey. |
| 07:04.09 | TekDroid | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1793 |
| 07:04.22 | GD12 | hey |
| 07:04.54 | GD12 | nocie |
| 07:08.23 | OfficerJackal | TekDroid: Looks good, I guess it will be added to the Katar Sector Page soon? |
| 07:09.00 | TekDroid | Yeah. |
| 07:10.44 | TekDroid | For now, it's 3am. DX |
| 07:12.39 | TekDroid | If you need me to fix some on the map... I'll probably have a mental breakdown from trying to replace it. >.< |
| 07:13.19 | Angrybirds | lol, I think this'll be the last one for a while. xD |
| 07:13.29 | Angrybirds | You did well, get some sleep. |
| 07:14.00 | TekDroid | This new Katar map was rebuilt for double dimensions. XD |
| 07:14.45 | TekDroid | If anyone wants the GIMP file, tell me in the morning. ...afternoon. |
| 07:15.24 | TekDroid | Good night everyone. |
| 07:15.26 | Angrybirds | SLEEP |
| 07:15.27 | Angrybirds | GO |
| 07:15.28 | Angrybirds | NOW |
| 07:15.32 | Angrybirds | ;) |
| 07:15.34 | TekDroid | XD |
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| 07:16.04 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 07:16.19 | GD12 | hello |
| 07:21.54 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
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| 08:19.07 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 08:19.32 | Imperios | Angrybirds: Thanks for reminding me of the old Ar-Klith Empire page, BTW |
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| 09:35.27 | Liquid_Ink | Damn |
| 09:35.38 | Liquid_Ink | Just as I was going to ask sciency stuff. |
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| 09:55.30 | ImpyDroid | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140808094014/spore/images/e/e4/Eastern_Plains_Humans.png I tried to make the girl on the background look Asian-ish |
| 09:55.32 | ImpyDroid | Did I succeed? |
| 09:56.46 | Liquid_Ink | A little. |
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| 10:42.19 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 10:42.30 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 10:48.46 | ImpyDroid | Hiya |
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| 11:35.00 | ImpyDroid | Hello |
| 11:35.22 | ImpyDroid | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140808094014/spore/images/e/e4/Eastern_Plains_Humans.png I made that pic for the Eastern Plains page |
| 11:37.48 | OluapPlayer | The man looks grumpy |
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| 11:47.12 | Wormy | hi |
| 11:52.40 | Monet_ | Hi |
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| 11:59.39 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 11:59.49 | Monet_ | Hi |
| 11:59.50 | Wormy | Important stuff about the Mantisorac unveiled, written by Liquid Ink http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:DCP-Vermulan_War/Year_Two#Swarm_Behaviour |
| 11:59.53 | AdmiralPanda | OluapPlayer: anything going to make me cry tomorrow? |
| 12:00.01 | OluapPlayer | wut |
| 12:00.24 | AdmiralPanda | you know, something that would disrupt D&D |
| 12:00.29 | OluapPlayer | Ah |
| 12:00.32 | AdmiralPanda | also Monet_: This is relevant to an earlier discussion http://cheezburger.com/8278903296 |
| 12:00.43 | OluapPlayer | Probably not |
| 12:01.01 | AdmiralPanda | also, I'm now in a really, REALLY cool D&D campaign |
| 12:01.19 | AdmiralPanda | it's a victorian-era themed vampire hunt, and so far it's been epic |
| 12:01.22 | ImpyDroid | Wormy: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140808094014/spore/images/e/e4/Eastern_Plains_Humans.png The girl on the background is supposed to be an Islander, are you okay with that interpretation? |
| 12:01.31 | ImpyDroid | AdmiralPanda: Wow, cool |
| 12:01.40 | Monet_ | AdmiralPanda: At some point could you make a Fordan rep for the Andromedan Light? |
| 12:02.10 | AdmiralPanda | Monet_: Remind me, who exactly are the Andromedan Light again? |
| 12:02.45 | Wormy | Yerah thats fine Impy |
| 12:02.49 | Monet_ | The parliament that runs the AGC and acts as a forum t odiscuss matters of Andromedan interest |
| 12:03.00 | Wormy | Anything to expand the Islander fiction |
| 12:03.13 | OluapPlayer | Going through the Eastern Plains races, I realized |
| 12:03.19 | OluapPlayer | Imp you control most of that region hur |
| 12:03.42 | Wormy | AdmiralPanda: I agree with that page, I hate it how humans are always weak in sci-fi. |
| 12:04.02 | AdmiralPanda | I suppose I could work on one, yeah |
| 12:04.28 | Wormy | We really aren't that weak, our leg muscles are stronger than ape leg muscles, they can't lift stuff above their head or climb vertical walls. |
| 12:05.27 | OluapPlayer | Goddamn the wiki is being so slow to update pictures |
| 12:05.35 | Wormy | Not many animals can hold their breath for 20 minutes under water, usually aquatic ones |
| 12:05.59 | Monet_ | We are one of the few animals on Earth with a diaphragm |
| 12:06.02 | AdmiralPanda | most humans can't hold their breath for 5 minutes underwater |
| 12:06.15 | OluapPlayer | I can barely hold my breath for a few seconds hur |
| 12:06.16 | Wormy | It can be trained however |
| 12:06.27 | AdmiralPanda | the world record is 22 in fact |
| 12:06.42 | AdmiralPanda | as to the ape leg thing, most apes aren't obligatory bipeds like we are |
| 12:06.48 | AdmiralPanda | they have their arms to help support their body weight |
| 12:07.09 | AdmiralPanda | and humans can't climb vertical walls either unless we have something to hang onto |
| 12:07.10 | Monet_ | Theoretically we can jog something like a deer to collapsing point |
| 12:07.28 | AdmiralPanda | Monet_: We can and did |
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| 12:08.30 | ImpyDroid2 | OluapPlayer: I is emperor of ze East |
| 12:08.42 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 12:08.51 | ImpyDroid2 | Funny because I am EASTERN European |
| 12:09.38 | ImpyDroid2 | And of East Asian descent hur |
| 12:10.10 | Monet_ | I think part of this "humans re weak" idea comes from how we can't survive gunshots or weaponised plasma. |
| 12:10.14 | AdmiralPanda | ohgod, someone picked Pantheon in a pro League of Legends game (read: inspired by Leonidas from 300), cue around three thousand people immediately shouting out A-OO A-OO |
| 12:10.15 | Monet_ | THen again nothing can |
| 12:10.39 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 12:10.58 | Wormy | Hi |
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| 12:11.07 | Monet_ | That and we appear to gauge strngth mainly by raw muscle power |
| 12:11.13 | Monet_ | often gauge* |
| 12:12.25 | Wormy | Its not true that a big cat or wolf will always kill a human anyway. I've read reports such that: A father used his own hands to save his son from a couger; a bloke fought a wolf and dragged it into a river to drown it; a man in Africa woke up in the night with a leopard trying to drag him out of bed, but he managed to fight it out the house |
| 12:13.08 | Wormy | I saw this sad photo where a group of men kicked a lepoard to death |
| 12:13.25 | AdmiralPanda | to be fair most of those animals 'are' pack hunters |
| 12:13.28 | Wormy | Humans can wrestle, most animals can't |
| 12:14.10 | Monet_ | Early humans didn't become apex predators without good reason. |
| 12:14.11 | Wormy | So advise I've heard when a dog has tackled you to the floor is to literally wrestle it, and break its bones if necessary |
| 12:15.28 | AdmiralPanda | Monet_: The reason we became apex predators is tools |
| 12:15.47 | Wormy | Also, ancient and prehistoric man was an impressive specimin http://phys.org/news175332184.html |
| 12:16.23 | Monet_ | Basically compared to other animals, humans have become quite impressie specimen. |
| 12:16.37 | Monet_ | ALso we're partially insane |
| 12:17.47 | Wormy | We have the ability to create knew knowledge and create ideas about what others are thinking |
| 12:17.59 | Wormy | *new |
| 12:18.26 | Wormy | I think thats what is unique to humans not our language, agriculture, intelligence, certainly not consciousness3 |
| 12:19.57 | Monet_ | If it helps in the form of what the Draconis think http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Monet47/Random_Things#Draconis_Opinion_Of_21st_Century_Humans note how they make no comment on the human body itself. |
| 12:20.48 | Wormy | And thats why we can build space stations travelling faster than any biological adaptation, communicated using radio waves and other forms of communication biology never could. |
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| 12:26.42 | Monet_ | And as you've mentioned wormy, human skin is fairly tough compared to a dog's. |
| 12:27.13 | Monet_ | COnsidering a lot of animals have folded, saggy skin, we must have airly tough skin compared ot most mammals. |
| 12:27.43 | Monet_ | SInce ours isn't as loose. |
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| 12:28.22 | Wormy | Its a problem for dogs, because owners underestimate the damage from scratches or cuts. |
| 12:29.19 | Monet_ | I get the feeling cats might be similar |
| 12:29.24 | ImpyDroid | AdmiralPanda: Aside from intelligence, humans have another strength: endurance |
| 12:29.29 | ImpyDroid | And stamina |
| 12:30.29 | Monet_ | Its our diaphragm, we can control our breating rate, most quadrapeds rely on the extension and compaction of their stomachs to breathe while running. |
| 12:31.30 | Monet_ | Its evident in the fact that grunting noise horses and cattle make while running is technically sneezing. |
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| 12:32.10 | Monet_ | ImpyDroid: [13:30] <Monet_> Its our diaphragm, we can control our breating rate, most quadrapeds rely on the extension and compaction of their stomachs to breathe while running. [13:31] <Monet_> Its evident in the fact that grunting noise horses and cattle make while running is technically sneezing. |
| 12:32.37 | Monet_ | Air is being expelled though their nostrils *really* fast. |
| 12:34.44 | Wormy | http://www.livescience.com/8039-humans-run-40-mph-theory.html |
| 12:35.06 | Wormy | I believe we get slightly faster every few years |
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| 12:35.47 | AdmiralPanda | athletes do, your average human doesn't |
| 12:35.52 | AdmiralPanda | and I'm talking in generations |
| 12:36.07 | Monet_ | Also that's the wierd thing abotu the phrase "healthy as a horse"; when a human breaks their leg, a few months of recovery and they can run just as well as before. When a horse breaks its leg, if it doesn't die there's a solid chance it's racing career is over. |
| 12:39.58 | Monet_ | Wormy: The conclusinos do see mot indicate that humans *could* run faster if we pushed our leg muscles to their limits. - which would unfortunately risk muscle tears. |
| 12:40.19 | Monet_ | Faster contractile speeds = more strain on the muscle tissue |
| 12:41.09 | Wormy | Also, I believe humans can harness their inner monkey |
| 12:41.43 | Wormy | Given the impressive monkey style kung fu, free running and parkour |
| 12:42.29 | ImpyDroid | ya |
| 12:44.04 | Monet_ | Actially there may be another factor that makes us more badass: We can endure heat better. |
| 12:44.34 | Wormy | Human sight is pretty badass, as is our sense of taste (stronger than a dog or cat) |
| 12:44.59 | Monet_ | Everyone knows that a dog in a car with no ventilation can die. But do we hear peope lpanicking about adult humans or teenagers dying in hot cars? |
| 12:45.01 | Wormy | It also surprises me how many things humans can eat that animals cannot |
| 12:45.22 | Wormy | Only old people or babies |
| 12:45.47 | Wormy | We can hear lowerr sounds that dogs |
| 12:45.53 | Monet_ | We have a better means of temperature control than furred animals - sweating. |
| 12:46.20 | Wormy | The human jaw strength is comparitively strong too, it can dent bone |
| 12:46.35 | Wormy | I would not like to be bitten by a human. |
| 12:47.17 | AdmiralPanda | a lot of animals have that level of bite strength |
| 12:47.23 | Wormy | I read about a man who gave a dog rabies in India |
| 12:47.24 | Monet_ | I think this is what made berserkers and those "bath salts zombie" reports so terrifying. |
| 12:47.24 | AdmiralPanda | I mean a LOT of animals |
| 12:47.41 | Wormy | Point is though, humans can compare |
| 12:47.43 | Monet_ | Said people - for whatever reason - weren't so hesitant |
| 12:47.53 | Monet_ | as a normal human is |
| 12:48.15 | AdmiralPanda | we can compare in some respects to some animals, but we're a generalist species whereas any animal you'd compare us to are specialised |
| 12:49.02 | AdmiralPanda | compared to many animal species, the one thing we like to think we can hold above animals- society- we're at the bottom of the pit |
| 12:49.03 | Wormy | In fact if you get cornered, it might be best the bite the face of your opponent and chew, and declare you are going to eat him to tease his/her flight instinct to run away |
| 12:49.16 | AdmiralPanda | clownfish literally change gender to better suit the needs of their community |
| 12:49.31 | AdmiralPanda | there are several species of biologically immortal jellyfish |
| 12:49.53 | AdmiralPanda | a cockroach's head is completely optional- they can maintain all life functions without it, at a lower level |
| 12:50.12 | AdmiralPanda | we can compare to some animals, but we're far from the best at ANYTHING except walking after things |
| 12:50.52 | Monet_ | THose bath salts zombies, for instance, a lot of news reports said the engaging police were Armed Response Units. SOmething usually only called in when beat cops have little chance against the perp. But they weren't against professional gangbangers, hitmen or spec ops soldiers, they were against normal people who were high. |
| 12:51.31 | Wormy | Well, our ability to evolve culturally/memetically, and use creativity and criticism, is far more specialist than any known creature |
| 12:51.48 | Wormy | That is our great specialism, in those respects |
| 12:52.26 | AdmiralPanda | our ability to develop memetic culture is more specialised than a snake literally having a specific poison for everything in its diet? |
| 12:52.52 | AdmiralPanda | We're better than we give ourselves credit for, but we're far from the best. |
| 12:53.08 | Wormy | Of course it is, because it allows us to live in environments that we create for ourselves3 |
| 12:53.29 | Wormy | And jump far outside the systems planted by our genes |
| 12:54.13 | Wormy | For most of the year, in the UK, if I got locked outside my house at night, and didn't find anywhere to go, I would die. |
| 12:54.39 | AdmiralPanda | actually I just remembered something; there was a species of shrimp that had starfish invade their territory. the shrimp quickly realised that the starfish could regenerate limbs, so instead of toppling and consuming the entire starfish, they'd topple it, rip its legs off, then eat the legs and let the starfish regenerate until it died |
| 12:55.08 | AdmiralPanda | we're not the only creature to develop new life systems according to stimuli |
| 12:55.30 | Wormy | But we do it at a regular basis at ever increasing complexity. |
| 12:56.02 | Wormy | We don't copy memes by merely copying behaviour either, which is the misconception about memes |
| 12:56.41 | AdmiralPanda | anyway I'm done with this conversation |
| 12:56.48 | Monet_ | How many generations of shrimp did ot take to adapt? |
| 12:56.51 | Wormy | Parrots do, but the distinction with humans is that we can create ideas about what others are thinking, thats why students in a lecture theatre don't copy the words of their lecturer in an infinite number of ways |
| 12:57.12 | AdmiralPanda | Monet_: No generational gap, it happened immediately |
| 12:57.22 | Monet_ | Right |
| 12:57.23 | Wormy | Instead, its how the students come to understand, not perfectly, the meanings of the lecturer |
| 12:58.01 | Wormy | Monet is thinking in the right lines of thought though |
| 12:58.30 | Wormy | Rapid progress was never immediate even in humans as mememes and creativity were evolving |
| 12:59.15 | Wormy | Aliens vising humans for most of human history would find hardly any change |
| 12:59.45 | Wormy | And like you said, things like language, memes, tool use, even agriculture, are not unique to us |
| 13:00.18 | Wormy | What is unique, I claim, what is our specialism, is our ability to progress rapidly |
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| 13:40.41 | OluapPlayer | dumba |
| 13:40.50 | Technobliterator | ya dad |
| 13:41.05 | Monet_ | Hallo |
| 13:41.07 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 13:41.24 | Technobliterator | hi peoples |
| 13:41.28 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kormacvarah lolz |
| 13:41.37 | OluapPlayer | Great opinion there |
| 13:41.54 | Technobliterator | it is good |
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| 13:46.25 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 13:46.32 | OluapPlayer | omg hai |
| 13:46.41 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 13:55.07 | Monet_ | Hi |
| 14:22.56 | Wormy | Hachiman, Monet_ Remnants of a hurricane is hitting the UK apparentely |
| 14:23.18 | Wormy | So if there is torrential downpour and wind where you are (it is where I am), it is possibly it |
| 14:23.26 | Hachiman | Yeah I heard |
| 14:23.40 | Wormy | Interestingly it was very hot hear prior to the storm |
| 14:23.44 | Monet_ | Its cloudy, slightly grey, but that's about it |
| 14:24.01 | Wormy | big fat rain drops |
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| 14:39.19 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 14:40.45 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 14:41.22 | AdmiralPanda | btw whose campaign is it tomorrow? |
| 14:41.28 | OluapPlayer | Hachi's |
| 14:42.32 | AdmiralPanda | better dust off Seylas' sheet |
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| 14:57.06 | drom | Alright. I'm having a break from the acupuncture. |
| 14:57.36 | Wormy | Is the qi flowing better? |
| 14:58.26 | drom | As in what? |
| 14:58.52 | Wormy | I'm not making fun of you btw (unless you are joking), I myself do tai chi and meditate and have had some strange experiences |
| 15:00.32 | drom | Well. I'm seriously having a break. Before I go all brb for a long time. So I have the chance to contribute. |
| 15:01.17 | drom | This acupuncture seems to work with this form of pigmentosa. |
| 15:03.07 | Wormy | The NHS in the UK offer acupuncture |
| 15:04.06 | Wormy | The reason why I asked is if I wondered it felt like anything |
| 15:05.01 | drom | Wormy: Reading about the healthcare makes me want to yell that our current government sucks. |
| 15:05.18 | Wormy | Sometimes deep in meditation I can feel energies - they are probably my imagination, but I've found they are useful tools in exploring the mind and controlling my body and follow certain rules |
| 15:06.33 | Wormy | The NHS, it might not be perfect, but I wouldn't be happy if it was privatised |
| 15:07.05 | drom | I have had certain wincing and twitches. |
| 15:07.14 | Wormy | wellbeing shouldn't just be for the rich |
| 15:07.36 | drom | And I feelt alot tired after the daily treatment. |
| 15:07.41 | Wormy | the rich get enough freedom in my county already |
| 15:08.15 | drom | The government goes full Amercia in the wrong country. |
| 15:09.21 | drom | The rich gets richer and anything below gets financial evictions. |
| 15:10.41 | drom | May not so accurate. But what they are doing: Make a group more "perfect" and give the miserable parts on the rest of the population. |
| 15:11.29 | drom | Especially the household/residence policies. |
| 15:11.34 | Hachiman | You're Swedish, right? |
| 15:11.41 | drom | Yes. |
| 15:12.03 | Hachiman | And you reside in Swedenland right now? |
| 15:12.07 | drom | We are having a massive forest fire. |
| 15:12.42 | drom | Take that as a yes. |
| 15:13.05 | Hachiman | rite |
| 15:13.06 | Hachiman | https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10480145_750133205049481_5927493883881958533_n.jpg |
| 15:13.12 | drom | Hachiman: http://www.dw.de/sweden-battles-massive-forest-fires/a-17833118 |
| 15:13.37 | Hachiman | Oh shit |
| 15:14.06 | drom | Russia offered one of their massive antonovs. But the government outstraight "no-ty" their offer. |
| 15:15.13 | drom | Luckly though, I don't live in that danger zone -yet-. |
| 15:15.38 | Monet_ | Drom: "[16:07] <drom> I have had certain wincing and twitches." sounds like they're triggering muscle twitches |
| 15:16.13 | AdmiralPanda | forest fires suck |
| 15:16.19 | drom | And I can imagine the affected populaton welcoming the visitors and tourists with the punchline: "Welcome to the most Australian part of Europ" |
| 15:16.40 | AdmiralPanda | well, the part of Europe wishing it was Australia :P |
| 15:17.09 | AdmiralPanda | on a more serious note, is that a fire-prone area? |
| 15:18.23 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10346112_10201420489153239_5467061514981526027_n.jpg |
| 15:18.45 | AdmiralPanda | so true |
| 15:18.59 | drom | AdmiralPanda: We have had alot of dry and hot weathers late-July. |
| 15:19.07 | drom | And it was when the fire was reported. |
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| 15:19.32 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 15:19.37 | AdmiralPanda | drom: What I mean is, Australia doesn't have nearly as much of a fire problem as people think because we manage our regular fire zones well with controlled back-burns and regular cleanouts |
| 15:20.07 | drom | I see. But nope. We have never had fire zones. |
| 15:20.28 | drom | The most recent large forest fire was merely 30-40 years ago. |
| 15:20.29 | AdmiralPanda | That would explain how things got out of hand |
| 15:20.41 | AdmiralPanda | never had regular enough fires to have to lay down effective plans |
| 15:20.47 | drom | And that's when the politics go dumb and dismantle everything. |
| 15:23.33 | drom | And it occured on a zone where my mom resided when she was like 20 years old. |
| 15:23.48 | drom | Correction: It occured 20-30 years ago. |
| 15:25.32 | drom | The today's fire have chowed up valuable wood worth of 54.1 million Euros total. |
| 15:25.42 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 15:25.45 | drom | Hey |
| 15:27.58 | drom | Like the weather, politicis is an endless debate in Sweden. |
| 15:29.08 | Monet_ | SMokay the Bear was a good idea and it was a huge success...until they learned that preemptively putting out wildfires has the same effect as making sure someone bottles up their anger. |
| 15:29.16 | Monet_ | Smokey* |
| 15:30.41 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/1403611_462016013907741_448712219_o.jpg |
| 15:34.56 | Hachiman | You know this makes me wonder about euthanasia within our empires, both Fictionverse and Fantasyverse, and how different species treat it and its usage |
| 15:36.05 | Hachiman | Zazane for certain would prohibit it amongst themselves on the basis of cultural desecration |
| 15:36.47 | OluapPlayer | What's this now |
| 15:37.15 | Hachiman | Euthanasia, as in, legalized suicide |
| 15:38.12 | Hachiman | Usually done through stuff like drugs |
| 15:38.19 | Hachiman | And ran by the state |
| 15:38.40 | OluapPlayer | Ah |
| 15:38.49 | Hachiman | It's also the service used to put down animals when they get too old or injured to be looked after |
| 15:39.06 | Monet_ | Yeah, euthenasia has to be legalised by the state outherwise it is classified as murder. |
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| 15:40.51 | OluapPlayer | I don't see any of my empires having an issue with it |
| 15:44.12 | Hachiman | In Min Lagosi I imagine that suicide isn't strictly noted down as being an illegal practice, since Min Lagosi isn't actually a unified state as much as it many states ran by tribes |
| 15:44.18 | Monet_ | I' dsay while the Imperial government probably supports it, for reasons of Pax Draconica they leave its legality up to the relevant client states. |
| 15:44.59 | OluapPlayer | Well there's not much point in making suicide illegal, you can't arrest a dead person hur |
| 15:45.15 | Hachiman | No but you can arrest and sentence a person of *attempted* suicide |
| 15:46.11 | Hachiman | It's often considered a gift of mercy if a suffering Lagosi, or anything that happens to be suffering really, is put to rest with the swiftest and least painful practice one can perform |
| 15:46.28 | Hachiman | Or helping a suffering Lagosi in committing their own suicide |
| 15:46.50 | Monet_ | OluapPlayer: What differs euthenasia from more typical suicide is that you're asking someone else to kill you |
| 15:46.50 | OluapPlayer | Hachi stubs his toe -> begs for Clotho to kill him |
| 15:46.54 | Hachiman | olol |
| 15:47.16 | OluapPlayer | Ah, so this is about assisted suicide |
| 15:48.15 | Monet_ | Well... Hachi's point on the Lagosi is their outlook on suicide in general. |
| 15:48.17 | Hachiman | Yeah, effectively |
| 15:48.59 | OluapPlayer | I was on about you can't punish a person for killing themselves by themselves |
| 15:49.24 | Hachiman | Yeah assisted suicide is often considered murder in a lot of places |
| 15:49.52 | OluapPlayer | Now I imagine some faction using necromancy to raise suicided people back to life to put them in jail |
| 15:49.54 | Monet_ | I realised the other day that there is a large loophole in Pax Draconica: Due to the loose definition of "culture", client states have largely free reign on what laws they can encact. |
| 15:50.38 | Wormy | http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/08/hunt-is-on-for-12000-diamond-dropped-from-space-which-landed-in-british-field-4825796/?ito=facebook |
| 15:50.40 | Wormy | ^ |
| 15:50.46 | Wormy | Better get there soon |
| 15:51.00 | OluapPlayer | Extend that to all of your criminals, you can't die until you do all your years |
| 15:51.30 | Monet_ | Theoretically, DI province A could make euthensia, cannabis and slavery illegal while province B can make either happily legal, and the Grand Senate won't really bat an eyelid |
| 15:53.49 | Hachiman | For the Brood, specifically Zazane, euthanasia would only be considered tolerable under the most extreme of circumstances |
| 15:54.29 | OluapPlayer | The Council gets annoyed when Tyraz starts asking all of them to enthanase him |
| 15:55.28 | Hachiman | ohgod |
| 15:55.53 | Monet_ | Although there are probably conditions where if you've committed what is ocnsidered a crime in Province A, you can't go to Province B to find sanctuary. |
| 15:56.16 | OluapPlayer | Verviok - ur not fabulous enuff to enter our borders |
| 15:56.52 | Hachiman | I reckon that in places like the Fantasyverse, euthanasia and assisted suicide is less about legality |
| 15:57.22 | Monet_ | Each province may have its own laws and principles, but Domestic Security is an umbrella organisation of all Draconid and provincial law enforcement groups. |
| 15:57.25 | OluapPlayer | I imagine the Dynasty isn't a big fan of the idea |
| 15:59.19 | OluapPlayer | The Vermin Kingdom and the Nightshade Clan also most probably disapprove of it |
| 15:59.24 | OluapPlayer | Mortium fully supports it though |
| 15:59.34 | Hachiman | dats a sooprize |
| 15:59.37 | Monet_ | Mortium - So long as people are dying I'm happy |
| 15:59.52 | Monet_ | Mortium - Because it keeps me busy |
| 15:59.54 | OluapPlayer | He's a man of simple pleasures, all you gotta do is die |
| 16:00.17 | Hachiman | Mortium is the kind of guy that would see a lost child or a sad person and suggest that they kill themselves to make themselves feel better |
| 16:00.37 | OluapPlayer | Mortium - ey kid, I got a place for u to hide *bag* |
| 16:00.42 | Hachiman | olol |
| 16:01.42 | Ghel | To state the obvious, generally speaking, people dying is bad for societies that require their people to stay alive, so suicide and euthanasia are likely to be outlawed in such places. |
| 16:02.36 | Ghel | In our civilisation, we don't require the majority of our people to go out and work in the fields so that there's enough food to eat. |
| 16:04.18 | Monet_ | I've described the Imperium as a hegemonic empire before but I think this discovreey really sells it |
| 16:05.20 | Monet_ | It's a body, a collective of states that have agreed to give up total political independance but though policy can still do prettymuch what they want inside their own borders. |
| 16:07.32 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10357134_674355785992355_3841010127169002337_n.jpg kek |
| 16:15.02 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: How much would it take to get you to run a Shadowrun campaign |
| 16:21.30 | drom | The other wiki that I contribute to has an admin who follows her fucking own guidelines. |
| 16:21.44 | drom | She's also a culprit of imagines in terrible quality. |
| 16:22.37 | Monet_ | Hachiman: THere are metal songs about the cookie monster? |
| 16:23.15 | Hachiman | Monet_: No, what it means is that death metal vocalists often sing their vocals in a manner that sound similar to the Cookie Monster sound effects |
| 16:23.41 | Monet_ | Ahh right...yes, I can definitely pictuer that. |
| 16:24.05 | Monet_ | Although right now I'm also picturing Cookie Monster singing a metal song about eating cookies. |
| 16:24.12 | Hachiman | Usually its gutturals and growls that make it sound like that |
| 16:24.31 | Hachiman | Gutturals and growls are stupidly hard to get right and not sound like an idiot |
| 16:26.36 | Monet_ | I once knew the lead singer for a metal band back when I was doing a=level maths |
| 16:26.49 | Hachiman | What sort of metal? |
| 16:27.19 | Monet_ | Can't remember but he usually started the songs with a series of gutteral shouting. |
| 16:27.49 | Hachiman | Probably some form of death metal then |
| 16:28.05 | Hachiman | I'm good friends with the drummer of a local death metal band |
| 16:29.01 | Monet_ | Does it change things if I say he was a goth? |
| 16:29.32 | Hachiman | Either death metal or black metal in that case |
| 16:29.59 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: ehh, one of you guys run a victorian-inspired vampire hunter RP and I'll consider it :P |
| 16:30.08 | AdmiralPanda | victorian era-inspired |
| 16:30.22 | Hachiman | It's rather unfortunate that the lead singer for my friend's band both can't actually do the proper lyrics during live performances and is a juggolo |
| 16:34.59 | OluapPlayer | bah i'm bored |
| 16:38.37 | Monet_ | A thought came to mind for the mirrorverse. |
| 16:38.55 | Monet_ | Cyrannian has stated the average tech level is roughly 1000 years ahead |
| 16:39.38 | Monet_ | Give nthe EMpire of Dranvamus is more authoritarian than its primeverse candidate and that it was able to subjugate the Vartekain EMpire, I wonder if the Empire could be further advanced than that |
| 16:41.39 | Monet_ | THis is a bit of a scary thought really |
| 16:43.04 | Monet_ | Possibly....Interim Coalition or Exultant-level |
| 16:44.35 | Wormy | The big SporeWikiverse civs already out-tech most sci-fi factions |
| 16:45.00 | Wormy | +1000 years and it will easily be Culture or Interim Coalition level |
| 16:45.58 | Wormy | And a little beyond that, Elders approaching Tier 0 |
| 16:46.06 | Wormy | Though Tier 0 is itself huge |
| 16:46.09 | Monet_ | Yeah. But what has so far kept the primeverse Imperium the level it is presently is a few depression periods. |
| 16:46.49 | Wormy | To get to the Xeelee and possibly beyond you need the universe's lifetime or perhaps more than it |
| 16:48.38 | Wormy | Its very hard to think of aliens that could convincingly stalemate or defeat the Xeelee |
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| 16:48.58 | Wormy | I've searched all over spacebattles.com and there is very very few |
| 16:50.18 | Wormy | TGGL is a funny one |
| 16:50.25 | Wormy | Using anime physics |
| 16:51.05 | Wormy | But the Anti-spirals in the Xeelee universe couldn't win. Throwing a galaxy at FTL is not like throwing it at ultra-relativistic velocities |
| 16:51.45 | Hachiman | Heh |
| 16:54.56 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Merovar_Dynasty#Royal_Family meet the leaders of the Merovar |
| 16:58.08 | Monet_ | Wormy: The EoD is more technologically disparate as they also play Goa'uld a bit with pre-spacefaring civilisations. Perhaps the heart of the Empire is Culture/Interim Coalition-level but things get less sophisticated on the fringes of the empire |
| 16:58.11 | Hachiman | Nice, Megrovaz has quite a diverse family |
| 16:58.32 | Hachiman | Meryptah must be considered bizarre by other Merovar for her elf fetish though hur |
| 16:58.58 | Monet_ | Perhaps the Draconis in the mirrorverse are aloof, many of the heartland types perhaps prefer to keep away from what they cosnider lesser beings |
| 16:59.13 | OluapPlayer | She must be, yes |
| 16:59.45 | OluapPlayer | Most Merovar wouldn't be interested in getting involved with, as they call them, "warmskins" |
| 16:59.53 | Hachiman | Warmskin |
| 16:59.57 | Hachiman | I like that term hur |
| 17:00.43 | Hachiman | I do wonder if bickering ever breaks out between Megro's children, especially since Rultanex is considered the official heir and Khentimeresh wanks over dragons |
| 17:00.54 | OluapPlayer | Most definitely |
| 17:01.24 | OluapPlayer | Rultanex probably watches his siblings bickering while rolling his eyes and going "I'm surrounded by idiots" |
| 17:01.32 | Wormy | Hachi: I've compiled a list of the more interesting Elder races (of course most are quite lame) http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Types_of_civilisation#Godrace_.28Tier_0.29 http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Types_of_civilisation#Elder_race_.28Tier_1.29 |
| 17:03.10 | Hachiman | Ooh nice |
| 17:04.25 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: You know it's likely that because of the extent of their influence and territory, the Dynasty is a more powerful civilization than Khaepsha |
| 17:05.06 | OluapPlayer | I imagine the Khaepsha have a better military |
| 17:05.14 | OluapPlayer | Also they're concentrated in one place instead of being scattered |
| 17:05.20 | Hachiman | True |
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| 17:10.13 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 17:10.24 | Xho | u |
| 17:10.31 | OluapPlayer | Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kormacvarah ded peeps |
| 17:10.54 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 17:11.13 | Xho | My only criticism is that you could have come up with a more unique name but other than that well done u dum |
| 17:11.27 | OluapPlayer | non |
| 17:11.49 | Xho | Hachiman: The most terrifying imagery in the universe has been realised |
| 17:12.14 | Xho | There's a picture of Meshuggah using 9-string guitars |
| 17:12.23 | Hachiman | Geezush |
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| 17:18.08 | Hachiman | I wonder what would happen if somebody tried running an RPG inspired by the Xeelee Sequence |
| 17:18.21 | Xho | Epileptic fits |
| 17:18.26 | AdmiralPanda | from what I understand of it, it'd get boring very quickly |
| 17:18.32 | Xho | Or that |
| 17:18.37 | Hachiman | xeleeverse not borin wat u on aboot |
| 17:18.45 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Vampire ploot nao |
| 17:18.46 | OluapPlayer | how bout u go edit min lagosi |
| 17:18.51 | OluapPlayer | Xho: shup face |
| 17:18.54 | Xho | u |
| 17:19.07 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: Either you're playing a tabletop war-game with ten million units to control, or you're playing a character-driven RPG where your individual PC means nothing unless the enemy screws up horribly |
| 17:19.12 | AdmiralPanda | so the game would be drop-dead boring |
| 17:22.17 | Hachiman | âThey should have sought refuge within the walls of the Orichalcum Elves. They would have been safe from destruction.â - Septimus forgetting about the Shiarchon |
| 17:22.17 | Monet_ | Or you could play the Xeelee or Photino Birds and wipe the floor with everyone else except for these two |
| 17:23.25 | OluapPlayer | Kormacvarah - yeah fuk dat |
| 17:24.33 | Monet_ | So while the setting itself is so exiting, the forces involved are so obscenely powered they make the 40K galaxy look li a child's sandpit. |
| 17:24.51 | Xho | Well, Septimus talks in context that they wouldn't known about the Shiarchon in that time |
| 17:25.43 | OluapPlayer | I imagine they wouldn't leave their lands regardless, they'd rather die there than move elsewhere |
| 17:25.48 | AdmiralPanda | Monet_: And unlike the 40k galaxy, you can't really spin wonderful stories of insignificant characters dealing with their insignificance, because at least in the Imperium you occasionally get someone who can do interesting things for a few months then die horribly |
| 17:26.21 | Xho | The destruction of the Dawn Wardens happened at the same time Julianus Castus Marcus ruled who was the third-to-last ruler, so hell no one would have known for like 5,000 |
| 17:26.22 | Xho | years |
| 17:27.21 | OluapPlayer | I imagine them and the Orichalcum Elves had some contact before that, fighting Void critters together and all |
| 17:27.26 | Xho | Likely |
| 17:27.35 | Monet_ | AdmiralPanda: Xeelee Sequence does have a few characters that make a bit of significance like Jim Bolder and Michael Poole. However they're far far rarer rarer. |
| 17:27.39 | Xho | Septimus was only around 830 years old at the time the Orichalcum Elf Imperium fell |
| 17:27.42 | OluapPlayer | Orichalcum Elves - com hide here Mortium - no com hide here *bag* |
| 17:28.00 | Xho | Caligaduro - or here *void* |
| 17:28.07 | OluapPlayer | Mortium - dats a dum hidin place |
| 17:28.34 | Monet_ | Jim Bolder was like a one in a quadrillion chance situaton. |
| 17:28.58 | Xho | Caligaduro - yeh 4 dum mortals |
| 17:29.41 | Monet_ | And Michael Poole had the advantage that he lived in the 2050s where the only thing that went beyond the soalr system were the pioneer and voyager probes |
| 17:30.10 | Xho | Hm |
| 17:30.21 | Xho | I might start thinking about making a replacement for The Serpent |
| 17:30.28 | Xho | As for what it would look like, I have no iea |
| 17:30.30 | Xho | idea |
| 17:30.49 | Monet_ | A snake...with eight wings...and a cobra crest |
| 17:31.18 | Monet_ | And four arms |
| 17:31.21 | Hachiman | Make it look like Oberyn Martell |
| 17:31.24 | Hachiman | cuz red viper |
| 17:31.34 | Xho | Marius - AND I SMASHER HER HEAD IN LIKE THIS |
| 17:31.39 | Xho | smashed* |
| 17:31.43 | Xho | Dude fuck English seriously |
| 17:32.02 | Hachiman | I read that as "Mario" then |
| 17:32.14 | OluapPlayer | if you're gonna make a new Serpent then either make it a serpent or change the name |
| 17:32.23 | Xho | I'm naming the character 'The Advocate' anyway |
| 17:32.50 | Hachiman | Could be a shapeshifting creature, kinda like Shang Tsung |
| 17:33.00 | Xho | Possibly |
| 17:33.32 | Xho | I'll see what I come up with |
| 17:36.51 | TekDroid | Ow... we were ripping up some carpet. There were boards with nails that hold them in place. I stacked a bunch of them in a corner, the foam fell on it and then I accidentally stepped on then. Then in the confusion stepped on it several times. DX |
| 17:37.24 | TekDroid | Tiny, old, rusty nails. -.- |
| 17:37.37 | Xho | Ouch |
| 17:37.44 | TekDroid | should probably get a tetnis shot. |
| 17:37.57 | Xho | Yeah you should probably disinfect those cuts |
| 17:39.17 | TekDroid | There was a side with a few longer nails and the other with many shorter ones, seems the foam only let the big ones penetrate skin. |
| 17:49.43 | Monet_ | OKay now I'm getting some rain |
| 17:50.11 | Hachiman | By the way I'm going out so I won't be on until late probably |
| 17:51.54 | Monet_ | Xho: I think I know how GTA desensetises its gamers to the psychological impact of running dow nand shooting random pedestrians in the face. |
| 17:52.58 | Monet_ | Everyone in either Liberty City or San Andreas is either a bigoted moron, a chronic drug addict, shallow as a puddle or pretentious as hell. |
| 17:53.21 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: nuuu ;-; |
| 17:54.24 | Xho | Monet_: Aye |
| 17:54.45 | Xho | This Advocate guy is one ugly motherfucker so far |
| 17:58.44 | TekDroid | "Saints Row IV: Game of the Century Edition" very humble. |
| 18:01.38 | Wormy | damn I rthink I remember this one http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2006-14.html |
| 18:06.17 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Isybzdaf8 Nu and Mu |
| 18:06.52 | Technobliterator | I'm not really excited for Dota 2 the game anymore, but I have to admit, I *am* excited for workshop tools |
| 18:06.55 | Xho | Replace Kyle's mom with Tau |
| 18:07.05 | Technobliterator | god I want to play with them |
| 18:07.52 | AdmiralPanda | why, so you can make everyone wear pink? |
| 18:08.00 | Xho | More like gold and green |
| 18:08.03 | AdmiralPanda | I'll be honest, that's the first thing I'd do |
| 18:08.04 | Monet_ | Tau - *ouncjes Nu i nthe snout* I said don't do it. |
| 18:08.34 | Monet_ | punches Nu* |
| 18:12.10 | Xho | http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140808181137/spore/images/b/bd/TheAdvocate.png There |
| 18:12.23 | Wormy | http://www.darwinawards.com/personal/personal1998-08.html |
| 18:12.58 | Monet_ | Xho: Very spooky |
| 18:13.52 | OluapPlayer | black dood |
| 18:15.11 | Xho | https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/10577094_910993938916794_4579419700557126655_n.jpg My sides |
| 18:15.13 | Monet_ | Watching Moe recite the Godfather, I've noticed the idea is that the Mafia send a message by placing a horse's head in the bed of the target. |
| 18:15.24 | Monet_ | And that any horse's head would do |
| 18:15.40 | Technobliterator | Xho, when are you going to move your gallery to your new userpage ;-; |
| 18:15.55 | Xho | Never |
| 18:16.01 | Technobliterator | y not |
| 18:16.05 | Xho | No need to |
| 18:16.11 | Technobliterator | can I do it :( |
| 18:16.16 | Xho | You can if you want |
| 18:16.59 | Technobliterator | there we go |
| 18:17.28 | Monet_ | If I recall ,the whole thing came from the Mafia (it was either media or it really happened), a fewmembers of the Mafia stuck the head of a target's champion thoroughbred in his bed as he slept. A way of saying "we know how to get to you" |
| 18:19.05 | Monet_ | They deprived him of something the target placed great value on and used it to intimidate him. |
| 18:19.46 | Monet_ | Any old horse's head is pure "wtf is that!?" value |
| 18:21.18 | AdmiralPanda | Monet_: Of course any horse's head is like WTF but in the movie itself, it was a horse owned by the man in question |
| 18:22.15 | Monet_ | Yeah. |
| 18:24.44 | Monet_ | But...I dunno I think I've seen bits where the "guy's horse" was distilled down int o"random horse" |
| 18:25.11 | Monet_ | Because, well, more prople have probably heard about the horse thing than seen the film for context |
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| 18:29.28 | Monet__ | A bit like how there are likely more people who know the trademark chord from Psycho than peop lwho have actually seen the film. |
| 18:29.48 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Technobliterator/Sig/The_Sig best sig eu 1v1 me im mlg pro |
| 18:30.49 | OluapPlayer | ugly colours dose |
| 18:31.04 | Technobliterator | ya moms ugly |
| 18:46.02 | TekDroid | YES. Space Engineers has a facepalm animation. XD |
| 18:49.42 | Angrybirds | lol |
| 18:54.17 | Imperios | Gah, gah, choices, choices |
| 19:00.35 | Monet__ | What now? |
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| 19:12.43 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
| 19:13.21 | TekDroid | Hey DrodoEmpire |
| 19:14.11 | TekDroid | DrodoEmpire: Don't forget to fill this out. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1793 I'm hoping to embed in on the Katar page. |
| 19:14.53 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, alright |
| 19:15.24 | DrodoEmpire | ~seen LawfulInsane |
| 19:15.29 | infobot | lawfulinsane <3a989023@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.152.144.35> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 29d 13h 35m 7s ago, saying: 'Hello.'. |
| 19:15.39 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 19:16.05 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 19:16.27 | Monet__ | I need to get to work on an Andromeda map at some point |
| 19:17.53 | TekDroid | Last night was me totally rebuilding the Katar map to double the dimensions. 3am here before I finally went to sleep. XD |
| 19:18.05 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
| 19:18.32 | DrodoEmpire | I'll also add extra notable worlds, if that's okay |
| 19:18.39 | DrodoEmpire | *other, not extra |
| 19:18.42 | DrodoEmpire | **either-or |
| 19:18.45 | DrodoEmpire | ***Whatever. |
| 19:19.20 | TekDroid | Half the reason for doubling the size was space to cram in planets. XD |
| 19:19.33 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 19:19.48 | DrodoEmpire | Mind if I add a few worlds along the lanes within Drodo territory? |
| 19:20.42 | TekDroid | Add whatever you want, anything inside your borders or empty space near it is all yoirs. |
| 19:20.46 | TekDroid | *yours. |
| 19:20.57 | DrodoEmpire | Alright, just wanted to clear that] |
| 19:22.09 | Imperios | Monet__: RL stuff |
| 19:23.23 | TekDroid | Monet__: You'll notice I also threw the Concordat Route on the Katar map. Feel free to add labels to it and your DI colonies. |
| 19:23.53 | Monet__ | I remember Zmr gave me a chunk of the Federation of Erzengl |
| 19:24.00 | TekDroid | Yeah. |
| 19:24.38 | TekDroid | Nothing was ever done with the OZ so everything is up to you with it. |
| 19:27.37 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of maps |
| 19:27.43 | OluapPlayer | Imperios Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1776 have a thing |
| 19:29.07 | Xho | Such ying wow |
| 19:29.29 | OluapPlayer | You can add your capitals and notable landmarks and shi |
| 19:29.32 | OluapPlayer | At least I assume you can |
| 19:29.53 | OluapPlayer | I think everyone can add to it |
| 19:30.00 | Xho | How do I edit it hur |
| 19:30.22 | OluapPlayer | Is there a "draw a marker" button at your bottom right? |
| 19:30.41 | Xho | Ah yeah |
| 19:30.57 | OluapPlayer | Click that then click on the map where you want the location to be |
| 19:31.47 | TekDroid | gtg |
| 19:32.57 | OluapPlayer | brb |
| 19:32.58 | Xho | Added Sangua Mons there |
| 19:33.06 | OluapPlayer | singui mins |
| 19:34.12 | OluapPlayer | Hm, I see nothing new |
| 19:34.22 | OluapPlayer | Better wait a bit |
| 19:34.24 | OluapPlayer | Now brb for real |
| 19:38.26 | Xho | I've added Storm's Throne now as well |
| 19:40.33 | Xho | And Wellspring of Twilight |
| 19:41.51 | OluapPlayer | ok back |
| 19:42.01 | Imperios | Wellspring of Twilight |
| 19:42.05 | OluapPlayer | Ah now I see the new locations |
| 19:42.26 | Imperios | Zran Kar is confused |
| 19:42.55 | Monet__ | Added Orocathrheim |
| 19:43.22 | Monet__ | At least I thought I did |
| 19:43.53 | OluapPlayer | I can see it |
| 19:44.04 | OluapPlayer | But it seems like we can't add links to location descriptions |
| 19:44.43 | Xho | Ah dammit I added the Forgotten Lands twice |
| 19:44.49 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 19:44.57 | OluapPlayer | You can delete one I think |
| 19:45.13 | OluapPlayer | You could also add Akharavzund |
| 19:46.42 | Xho | Right |
| 19:46.47 | Xho | I added the Archipelago |
| 19:47.18 | Xho | This doesn't update very fast |
| 19:47.23 | OluapPlayer | Monet__: You seem to have added Orocathrheim twice |
| 19:47.32 | Monet__ | I know |
| 19:47.35 | Imperios | I wonder |
| 19:47.55 | Imperios | Where is the mainstay of the Dryadali Sovereign territories located anyway |
| 19:48.04 | Monet__ | Although I only see the first one |
| 19:48.16 | OluapPlayer | Me and Hachi figured out territories for his empires |
| 19:48.34 | OluapPlayer | But I can't update the Koldenwelt map until the wiki stops being lazy |
| 19:49.06 | Xho | We should really have more types than just locations and capitals |
| 19:49.10 | Xho | Like fortresses, shrines etc |
| 19:49.21 | OluapPlayer | Can't you add more types? |
| 19:49.24 | Xho | We can |
| 19:49.29 | OluapPlayer | Do it then hur |
| 19:50.00 | Xho | Although they need custom icons |
| 19:50.09 | OluapPlayer | They do yeah |
| 19:50.48 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/Lmu7vTG.jpg |
| 19:51.09 | Xho | The map actually looks rather complex now |
| 19:52.24 | Monet__ | I could finally show where Redshire Castle is |
| 19:52.58 | Xho | I'm getting to work on a shrine icon |
| 19:53.08 | OluapPlayer | make it fit with the others pls |
| 19:53.14 | Xho | dur of course |
| 19:54.39 | Ghel | Thanks for adding the Archipelago, but it's in the wrong place. Is there any way to move it or should I just delete it and make a new one where it's supposed to be? |
| 19:55.15 | OluapPlayer | I think you have to delete it |
| 19:55.34 | OluapPlayer | I was gonna say, the Archipelago is oddly close to the main land |
| 19:56.31 | Ghel | Done and re-added. |
| 20:00.40 | OluapPlayer | Xho: One thing you could add to the map is where that super bloody battle with a gorillon dead people happened |
| 20:02.02 | Xho | right will do |
| 20:02.26 | OluapPlayer | Might need a new pin for that |
| 20:02.35 | OluapPlayer | Battle, Historical Event, something like that |
| 20:02.44 | OluapPlayer | Another thing you could add is the Golden Necropolis |
| 20:03.16 | Xho | Yeah |
| 20:03.32 | Xho | I added a shrine icon but I dunno whether it's accepting it |
| 20:04.12 | OluapPlayer | I remember having some difficulty getting the capital icon to work |
| 20:04.22 | Xho | Did you shrink the image donw? |
| 20:04.24 | Xho | down? |
| 20:04.33 | OluapPlayer | Wait I can see the shrine icon |
| 20:04.34 | OluapPlayer | Fancy |
| 20:04.59 | Xho | yey |
| 20:05.49 | OluapPlayer | do add teem fortress icon |
| 20:06.17 | Xho | I dunno what to do for that one hur |
| 20:06.29 | OluapPlayer | idunno, a teeny pitch black tower |
| 20:06.45 | Xho | I added the Golden Necropolis though |
| 20:07.30 | OluapPlayer | i c |
| 20:07.38 | OluapPlayer | It's fairly close to Khensu's city |
| 20:07.43 | OluapPlayer | Khensu - gold all mien |
| 20:07.55 | Xho | Pelagrios - fuk offfffffffffffffff |
| 20:08.00 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 20:08.35 | Xho | I need to add Ahdramilús the Immutable's resting place |
| 20:09.13 | Wormy | Hm |
| 20:09.28 | Wormy | How many unexplored lands exist on Koldenwelt now? |
| 20:09.45 | Xho | Quite a few I imagine |
| 20:09.58 | OluapPlayer | There's a lot of land not begonging to any faction atm |
| 20:10.02 | OluapPlayer | belonging even |
| 20:10.06 | Wormy | There can't be many, though it might not matter if each culture doesn't really talk much, like in the real world |
| 20:10.14 | Wormy | Looking at that map |
| 20:10.33 | OluapPlayer | Some of these locations aren't public knowledge |
| 20:11.30 | Ghel | I'll add Mala Aurorum as soon as I can figure out where it's supposed to be. I made an ancient temple so secret even I'm not sure where it is. |
| 20:11.53 | OluapPlayer | That's pretty secret |
| 20:12.28 | Wormy | a meta-secret so secret no-one knows |
| 20:13.17 | Ghel | A meta-secret is a secret that's so secret, nobody knows it's a secret. So it's not a meta-secret. |
| 20:13.26 | Ghel | Unless it's so secret that I don't know it's a meta-secret. |
| 20:14.19 | Wormy | This is entering set theory |
| 20:14.37 | Ghel | Yeah, let's not go there. :P |
| 20:14.54 | Wormy | we might not get out... |
| 20:15.08 | Xho | I've added a Fortress icon as well |
| 20:15.44 | OluapPlayer | gud |
| 20:16.47 | Ghel | I've added Mala Aurorum, so the set theory crisis is over. |
| 20:18.13 | Imperios | What should I say with Korea fangirls that stalk me on Facebook/VK |
| 20:18.31 | OluapPlayer | "go bak to grorious reader" |
| 20:20.14 | OluapPlayer | I see no new fortress icon |
| 20:20.27 | Xho | Neither do I |
| 20:20.28 | Xho | bwah |
| 20:20.44 | Xho | Well it's added Akharavzund anyway |
| 20:20.57 | Monet__ | I;ve noticed there's a little lag sometimes |
| 20:23.16 | Imperios | I just realised something |
| 20:23.26 | Imperios | Most of my RL friends are female |
| 20:23.29 | Imperios | Is that a problem |
| 20:23.42 | OluapPlayer | Why the hell would it |
| 20:26.36 | Xho | Less relevantly I added Paclernos to the Milky Way map |
| 20:26.41 | Ghel | Is [[File:KoldenweltLocationsMap.png]] obsolete now? |
| 20:26.41 | morgothBotPy | Ghel meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:KoldenweltLocationsMap.png |
| 20:27.10 | Xho | Muy |
| 20:27.19 | OluapPlayer | Yeah |
| 20:27.22 | OluapPlayer | That can go |
| 20:27.55 | OluapPlayer | miki wiy |
| 20:27.59 | OluapPlayer | I should add New Draka to that |
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| 20:35.10 | Xho | OluapPlayer: "Plazith-Borealis Wormhole" |
| 20:35.14 | Xho | Uh the Kicath have one as well hur |
| 20:35.30 | OluapPlayer | Since when |
| 20:35.40 | Xho | Since like 20,000 BC |
| 20:35.54 | OluapPlayer | Should've informed me that |
| 20:36.09 | Xho | Well I would have but it's only really used by the Kicath |
| 20:36.42 | Xho | Do I have any megastructures in the Milky Way |
| 20:36.44 | Xho | I forget |
| 20:37.03 | Xho | I probably have Xhodocto megastructures lying around |
| 20:37.48 | Xho | Right the Fortress icon works ow |
| 20:38.10 | Monet__ | Plot twist: The monoliths from 2001 were in fact Xhodocto constructs |
| 20:41.17 | drom | Zmr56 is not here. That son of... |
| 20:41.34 | Xho | OluapPlayer: c da nu icon u |
| 20:41.42 | OluapPlayer | NON |
| 20:41.48 | drom | angrily smashes the exit door. |
| 20:42.01 | OluapPlayer | is gud icon |
| 20:42.27 | OluapPlayer | I think there's nothing else I can add to the Milky Way map |
| 20:43.39 | Ghel | I feel like we need something special to say about the lake that the Eye was hidden in pre-War for the Eye, because the Western Forests are looking a bit sparse but there isn't much to write about it otherwise. |
| 20:46.44 | Xho | Hm...anything else I can add to the Koldenwelt map |
| 20:47.06 | OluapPlayer | bloody battle place |
| 20:47.19 | OluapPlayer | Soldalatel's nest |
| 20:47.57 | Xho | Right right right |
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| 20:52.45 | Xho | Added Tachjamund |
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| 20:55.02 | OluapPlayer | Hmm, I'm not sure if the current Borealis map is usable for the Maps thing |
| 20:55.05 | OluapPlayer | It's a bit too small |
| 20:55.29 | Monet__ | You can always blow it up a bit before uploading |
| 20:57.29 | OluapPlayer | Ah yes I found a way to do that |
| 20:58.03 | OluapPlayer | I can make it 50% larger but going further ruins the quality |
| 21:00.02 | Xho | I've added Sarisaneilum and Avarmaelium to the map |
| 21:00.24 | Xho | Sarisaneilum being the ancient capital of the Orichalcum Elves and Avarmaelium the newer capital |
| 21:04.26 | Xho | I've added a Ruin category as well |
| 21:05.16 | OluapPlayer | That's a good one |
| 21:05.28 | Wormy | This man has not bathe for 38 years, he was told he get a wife if he didn't bathe http://www.kigalitoday.com/IMG/jpg/Kailash_copy_copy.jpg |
| 21:05.57 | Xho | dat hair tho |
| 21:06.25 | OluapPlayer | ew |
| 21:06.41 | Wormy | you can see when it started going grey |
| 21:08.00 | drom | I bet that the hair is full of ants, wasps and ticks. |
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| 21:08.20 | drom | And lice. |
| 21:08.50 | Tybusen | Hello to you too |
| 21:13.27 | Wormy | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2539704/The-worlds-ineligible-bachelor-Iranian-wash-60-years-smokes-animal-faeces-whip-mean-decomposed-porcupine.html |
| 21:14.26 | Xho | Pelagrios - YOU MERELY ADOPTED THE DIRT I WAS BORN IN IT |
| 21:15.32 | OluapPlayer | wot |
| 21:19.35 | Technobliterator | batman |
| 21:19.44 | Technobliterator | it is a bane quote |
| 21:19.53 | OluapPlayer | rite |
| 21:20.00 | OluapPlayer | All I know about Bane is "for u" |
| 21:20.17 | Monet__ | Huh? |
| 21:20.19 | Technobliterator | HEY BATMAN DO YOU WANT TO SEE MY PENIS |
| 21:21.04 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 21:21.05 | Monet__ | I knwo Bane most ofr doing this http://www.gigaventure.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/banebackbreak.png |
| 21:21.14 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1825 well there's a Borealis map |
| 21:21.21 | Technobliterator | no Empires? |
| 21:21.22 | Wormy | :2long4u: https://www.facebook.com/notes/flow-cartagena/long-cat/10152632450774664 |
| 21:21.43 | OluapPlayer | The empires are already on the map |
| 21:21.54 | Technobliterator | but if you add pims |
| 21:21.57 | Technobliterator | you can link to their pages |
| 21:22.12 | OluapPlayer | That's not what I want to do though |
| 21:22.41 | OluapPlayer | And I just realized Matriarchy is mispelled in that map |
| 21:22.43 | OluapPlayer | meh hur |
| 21:22.46 | Monet__ | pims? |
| 21:22.55 | Technobliterator | pin |
| 21:23.05 | Monet__ | Ahh right |
| 21:26.07 | Monet__ | Thanos kicks Bane in the nads. |
| 21:27.49 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10606209_4500904578522_7629523373225357245_n.jpg |
| 21:27.59 | Monet__ | He can chill peope lto the bone by talking to them. |
| 21:28.02 | Wormy | So I'm Champagne http://survley.com/result/what-alcohol-are-you.html |
| 21:28.07 | Xho | Well |
| 21:28.12 | Wormy | i was hoping to be beer nvm |
| 21:28.19 | Xho | Bane is a chemically engineered mercenary |
| 21:28.40 | Xho | Thanos is an extradimensional supervillain |
| 21:29.11 | Monet__ | Hmm good point |
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| 21:30.14 | Monet__ | Okay, Bane vs Madman |
| 21:31.00 | Monet__ | That's probably a fairer fight |
| 21:32.13 | Monet__ | I owuld have suggested the Hulk buuut Hulk's strength is highly determined by plot |
| 21:33.02 | Tek0516 | Yep. |
| 21:33.23 | Monet__ | EIther he's lifting tanks with a bit of shift in his body weight, or he's delivering a punch that shatters an entire planet. |
| 21:36.37 | Wormy | What about Juggernaut? |
| 21:37.58 | Monet__ | Funnily enough I was about to suggest him |
| 21:39.06 | Monet__ | Has anyone actually managed to stop Juggernaut with their own bodies while he's in mid-charge? |
| 21:39.50 | Xho | Wormy: I'm Cocktail |
| 21:40.12 | Monet__ | SInce he is pretty-much the unstoppable force made manifest. |
| 21:42.40 | Wormy | The Hulk could stop him |
| 21:43.02 | Wormy | Jugg would be about to win when Hulk suddenly gets angrier |
| 21:43.17 | Wormy | Hulk will tire Jugg |
| 21:44.13 | Monet__ | Tiring Jugg out...I tihnk that has worked on occasion. |
| 21:44.29 | Monet__ | Usually though several dozen blows to his head though |
| 21:45.29 | Monet__ | Cain Marko's ability to smash though just about anything with little loss ot momentum kinda makes him immune t concussion. |
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| 21:47.03 | Wormy | He could certainly knock Hulk over |
| 21:47.22 | Monet__ | ALso another thing about pairing Bane agianst Hulk is Hulk has fought literally everybody in Marvel canon. |
| 21:48.24 | Monet__ | I had one copy of Amazing Spider-Man somewhere that started a strip with Spidey's kull enveloped by Hulk's green fingers. |
| 21:48.40 | Monet__ | spidey's head* |
| 21:49.35 | Monet__ | Spidey later "defeated" him by setting out some fresh fish in the middle of a warehouse. Hulk ate it, calmed down, returned ot being Bruce Banner |
| 21:50.17 | Monet__ | ...then after a few minutes talking to the web-head General ROss shows up with a battallion with the intent of attaching this high-tech dog collar to Banner. |
| 21:50.38 | TekDroid | O.o |
| 21:50.54 | Xho | Hulk in the Marvel films does seem borderline invincible |
| 21:51.18 | Xho | Especially if he can throttle Thor and Loki effortlessly |
| 21:51.43 | TekDroid | They had one scebe in avengers where he was surrounded with the enemy firing everything at him. |
| 21:51.44 | Monet__ | In true Spider-man luck, Spidey tries ot talk Ross down all the while Banner is transforming *right behind him*. And he only notices a moment before Hulk jumps though the warehouse roof. |
| 21:53.01 | Monet__ | Xho: Yeah. *somehow* Hulk is and allways will be the most powerful gamma mutant ever created. |
| 21:53.30 | Monet__ | No matter how many attempts are made to replicate Banner's accident. |
| 21:54.05 | Monet__ | The result just doesn't turn out as powered-up as him. |
| 21:54.22 | TekDroid | And anyone that is more powerful has a lethal flaw? |
| 21:54.29 | Monet__ | Yeah |
| 21:54.42 | Wormy | http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/12/article-2187276-1482FF63000005DC-699_468x281.jpg |
| 21:55.04 | Monet__ | I think it's something to do with how heavily messed up in the head Bruce is |
| 21:55.26 | Monet__ | He had a short fuse asa child and suffered a *lot* of abuse from his asshole dad |
| 22:00.03 | Monet__ | Wormy: Some strange thinking can go on at DARPA. |
| 22:00.27 | Monet__ | I recall Blade Wolf in MGR was a DARPA project. |
| 22:02.19 | Xho | https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10347699_2288071284581443_4935540826947960110_n.jpg?oh=18d660df396d6f15253b7f5358bc7d9d&oe=54645DFB "Being sober and trying to control your drunk friend" |
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| 22:09.05 | Monet__ | Oluap: Added Praetoria. If I got the year mentioned wrong, can you tell me? |
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| 22:16.10 | OluapCollege | kehehehehe |
| 22:16.53 | Monet__ | Oluap: Added Praetoria to the map |
| 22:17.13 | OluapCollege | rite |
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| 22:29.51 | Knight_Alien | Hello |
| 22:33.27 | Monet__ | Hello |
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| 22:54.38 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoli_Bugorski |
| 22:55.50 | DrodoEmpire | "...struck by a particle accelerator beam" |
| 22:55.54 | DrodoEmpire | Wh... |
| 22:55.57 | DrodoEmpire | ...How? |
| 22:55.58 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 22:57.07 | DrodoEmpire | Huh, and he lived to tell the tale |
| 22:58.53 | OluapCollege | pew pew in real life |
| 22:58.57 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
| 23:00.28 | Knight_Gamenight | wow. |
| 23:06.48 | Wormy | "Reportedly, he saw a flash 'brighter than a thousand suns,' but did not feel any pain." |
| 23:09.58 | OluapCollege | Ugh, trying to write a text in portuguese |
| 23:10.04 | OluapCollege | I kept writing words in english |
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| 23:25.03 | Technobliterator | what kind of text? |
| 23:26.27 | OluapCollege | College stuff |
| 23:26.48 | Technobliterator | ah, right |
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