IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140807

00:01.27Wormy_fictionWormulon representitive of the DCP reporting! -Kcch- The DCP will stock up on all the latest technologies to fight evil trolls and vandals! BZZZZ
00:04.37TybusenI think we've all had that one time in our fiction careers
00:04.44Wormy_fiction-Kcch- Kamik Shi? I thought it was Kimik Shi? If you are really a god, you could at least spell your name correctly, let alone destroy the universe, what do you say to that? -Kcch- - Admiral Kilnok.
00:05.30Wormy_fictionI was quite young back then
00:05.54Wormy_fiction6 years younger, damn
00:06.01GD12My fanfic for 40k was june 2011
00:06.06GD12i started the tyranny june 2012
00:06.21Wormy_fictionI started DCP in 08
00:06.43Wormy_fictionthough Ignored it until in 09 and 010
00:07.49GD12rite time to write the Tyranny history
00:09.57TechnobliteratorI can't remember when I began any of my fictions
00:10.05TybusenI remember back in 2010 and 2011 how the TIAF was essentially a bunch of DCP fanboys since they went around singing the praises of the DCP and smacking everyone who disagreed
00:10.24Technobliteratordat irony
00:10.46TybusenI also remember how the TIAF picked a fight with the Core Federation since the Core Federation stabbed the DCP in the back during the DCP Civil War
00:11.12Monet_I'm guessing that didn't go very well
00:11.19TybusenAnd literally everyone was like "tiaf bro take a chill pill"
00:12.08TybusenNot to mention they were picking a fight with the Core Federation in a period of time where their military capabilities were severely reduced due to the TIAF Civil War
00:12.38TybusenFun times
00:14.22TekDroidI've basically decided to set anything pre-GC that's not AD or Lightning War to ignore.
00:15.35HachimanSo basically everybody else's fiction that doesn't concern you
00:15.47HachimanVery collaberative attitude right there
00:15.47TekDroid*for Farengeto
00:15.49GD12I think he meant the fiction that he was involved in prior to that
00:16.06DrodoEmpire^
00:16.14TekDroidBasically that's mostly my non-collab stuff which kinda sucks.
00:19.31Technobliteratormy old fiction was trash
00:19.49Technobliteratorthe Taldar used to claim to be the most powerful empire ever
00:19.54Technobliteratormore powerful than the Xhodocto
00:20.39TechnobliteratorDrodoEmpire, I deleted the page that you VFD'd
00:20.53DrodoEmpireThanks
00:20.54Technobliteratorthe Mineral Conflict one
00:20.56Technobliteratornp
00:33.49GD12Monet_ Hachi: I'm writing up the Tyranny's history page, could the Tyranny first enter Andromeda in 2761?
00:33.55GD12* Hachiman
00:35.48Monet_Seems like its possible to me. Although that would probably set first contact back a few decades
00:36.43Monet_SInce Draconis could more easily contact them
00:36.51GD12hmm
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00:40.13OfficerJackalHello!
00:42.11OfficerJackalAngrybirds, Technobliterator, DrodoEmpire, GD12, Hachiman, Knight_Alien, Monet_, TekDroid, Tybusen, Wormy_fiction: Wing Commander III is currently on the house on Origin, if any of you are interested.
00:42.22OfficerJackalWhich means it's free.
00:42.23GD12i c
00:42.35HachimanWing Commander III?
00:42.40OfficerJackalMhm.
00:42.50HachimanNeevr played it
00:42.56Hachiman*Never
00:42.57Monet_I've heard of it.
00:43.04Monet_Its a cult classic series
00:43.10OfficerJackalOh, well, if you want it, it's there. XD It's a pretty old game, and yeah it is a cult classic.
00:45.21Wormy_fictionthanks for telling me
00:45.46Wormy_fictionBut with Uplay, ARC and Steam, I don't want any more of these game clients
00:46.49OfficerJackalJeebus. O.O Yeah, origin is fussy enough, can't imagine having more then two.
00:46.54OfficerJackalSteam and Origin.
00:57.03Monet_Trying to work out how big this diamond is.
00:57.14Monet_And its value
00:57.52Monet_a 6x6x6cm block of pure diamond is 4000 carats
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00:58.24CezannicusHi all
00:58.27Monet_So quite easily this gem is *much* bigger than the collinore diamond
00:58.29Monet_Hello
00:58.29CezannicusHow are things?
00:58.50DrodoEmpireGood, good.
01:01.08Monet_Weightwise, that's close to 1kg of flawless diamond
01:02.02Monet_Perhaps more
01:03.34Cezannicuswoah
01:05.26DrodoEmpireI'm gonna write up the Ming history now.
01:06.15Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Min_Lagosi#History Speaking of history
01:06.18GD12Jrllo
01:06.19HachimanDid some more
01:06.33GD12Ceaznnicus : who are you?
01:06.37HachimanNowhere near as brutal as the Kamehebi Exodus though
01:09.16Monet_Okay..if Drakon's Eye is 13x24x6cm then its weight is...6kg
01:09.20CezannicusNeedles
01:09.22Monet_6.6
01:09.23CezannicusHi GD12
01:09.28Cezannicushttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Magalin_Domain
01:09.40GD12oh i remember
01:11.05HachimanThere definitely needs to be more attention on the Fantasyverse
01:11.18HachimanIts significance is increasing in recent weeks
01:14.38Monet_If peopel are interested in the recent activity they'll look.
01:14.54Monet_Forcing people to take interest feels a bit blunt to me.
01:18.49HachimanMeh I like the Fantasyverse because it helps me get away from the super-political mess that the main fictionverse is turning into
01:19.57Monet_Fair enough ,those are your tastes.
01:20.35DrodoEmpireI like the super-political mess. :P
01:20.40HachimanNowadays, what with the recent GC activity, the Gigaquadrant feels anti-fun
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01:20.47DrodoEmpireHow?
01:20.51DrodoEmpireHello
01:21.08Monet_Hello
01:21.15Wormy_fictionhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:DCP-Vermulan_War/Year_Two#Seeking_the_lost
01:21.20somethingsomthin''ello my chaps
01:21.47Wormy_fictionI've decided to reflect events that might happen in the future with the alternative DCP reality example
01:22.23AngrybirdsThe political mess is what I live for :(
01:22.36DrodoEmpire^
01:22.41HachimanBelieve it or not there was a time where the fictionverse wasn't a super-political mess where everyone is at each other's throats and trying to find any excuse possible for a war and there was room for the significance of Essence and interesting characters and adventure
01:22.55GD12Well hello Angrybirds
01:22.56DrodoEmpireAnd you can still have that...?
01:23.04GD12Hachiman : I don't think the two are mutually exclusive
01:23.09Angrybirds^
01:23.19Monet_Interesting is in the eye of the beholder
01:23.28GD12Its a divergence from team based things like 2BGW and TM
01:23.37DrodoEmpireJust because there's been a change of pace doesn't mean you should piss and moan; Its not constructive.
01:23.48GD12in that its told from a larger scale and not an adventure, but adventures are surely possible in an event as immense as this
01:23.51DrodoEmpireLike GD said, they can coexist.
01:23.53HachimanI'm fine with both coinciding but recently it feels GC has overtaken everything else and is trying way too hard to be encompassing on a Gigaquadrantic scale
01:24.04DrodoEmpireI can see that.
01:24.34GD12Its not really trying hard if everyone is on board with it by mutual consent.
01:24.44HachimanBut not everyone is on board with it GD
01:24.55GD12By that I mean all its participants
01:25.13HachimanAnd the people who are, are trying to find any excuse possible to include others who aren't via manipulating in-universe politics
01:25.28AngrybirdsHachiman : How can we make it easier for you?
01:26.02HachimanI keep getting questions bombarded about me about GITO or whatever it is and what stance my part of whatever alliance of fictions will take so it can suffer such and such consequences
01:26.15DrodoEmpireHachi: Well... Sorry the general community likes the political interplay? I dunno.
01:26.37HachimanI'm thankful Cyrannian created a neutral party so I don't have to constantly get bombarded with reasons as to why I should get involved
01:26.55Monet_I see what is happening here.
01:27.02AngrybirdsIt's not very neutral, though. It's very much slanted towards the DCP. xD
01:27.10Monet_And I understand, you're not keen on politics Hachi
01:27.41HachimanIt's not that I'm not keen on politics, quite the opposite. But the fictionverse just feels 100% nitty-gritty politics nowadays
01:27.51HachimanWhere has the fun gone, the adventure, the interesting character development
01:28.26Monet_I think part of the policial mess related to how before every single person was friends with each other.
01:28.27DrodoEmpireI think its still there, its just the prevailing theme these days is politics. The fictionverse, at least I find, goes through phases.
01:28.55GD12that and the scale is different
01:28.57Monet_Now that all the protagonist fictions are having disagreements, its harder to see who's the better side - that's real politics
01:28.59AngrybirdsIt's still there. We still write stories and events from the perspective of characters, we just also try to keep in mind what happens on the national level.
01:29.15GD12Adventures mostly concern groups or teams while GC is trying to concern entire empires
01:29.21GD12^^
01:29.53Wormy_fictionThe DCP-Vermulan war really is a mixture of a political fiction and an adventure fiction
01:30.04HachimanThe DCP-Vermulan war is good like that
01:30.22HachimanI like the whole adventure-y feel it retains despite being a mature political fiction
01:30.25Wormy_fictionLook how many twists and turns me and Liquid are adding, there is some more surprises and new factions to come
01:31.00AngrybirdsHachiman : The problem also is that your fiction has political ties and influence on an intergalactic scale. We feel it would be wrong to not talk to you about that :(
01:31.50HachimanAnyway, since I'm apparently getting pissy and moany, it's just my reasoning as to why I'm finding the Fantasyverse far more interesting. I feel that nowadays, the fictionverse isn't science fiction anymore, it's just drawn-out realpolitik or whatever
01:32.32Wormy_fictionIt has become more political lately, or more complicated politics anyway
01:33.04HachimanIt's getting too unnecessarily complicated in my opinion and all the fun and adventure has been sucked out
01:33.07Monet_There;s still room for adventure
01:33.08Wormy_fictionBut don't worry, my fiction probably won't be over-poltical
01:33.52Monet_Mercenary characters could be hired by warring nations, there could be small-scale stories in the empires affected (or not affected)
01:34.14Wormy_fictionMaybe when GC ends and everyone is war weary and changed, there could be space for new adventure
01:34.20Monet_Stories of less important peopls- lives
01:34.29HachimanWormy_fiction: I really hope so
01:35.04HachimanI'm hoping to end up doing something involving pursuing the Great Attractor or something like that, I dunno, Xeeleeverse has been inspiring me recently hur
01:35.38Wormy_fictionI did a Xeelee inspired fiction with Ghewlae once, involving the Xyanxes
01:35.55Wormy_fictionThe Xyanxes are certainly a mystery to build on
01:36.04GD12bbl
01:36.42Wormy_fictionhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Civilisation/Goal_2_-_First_Contact#Siege_of_Girdo
01:36.57Monet_Hmm, I suppose the GC could have been less political messy if it didn't come from an intergalactic community where everyone was once friends. I'm seeing this "war for the sake of waging war" mindset among a few people.
01:37.16HachimanThat's a funny thing as well, even something so complex and hard sci-fi as the Xeelee Sequence still maintains an adventure-y feel to it and keeps the significance of discovery
01:37.28HachimanExactly, too many people are wanting a war where it isn't necessary
01:37.32HachimanOr wanted
01:38.09AngrybirdsThough it is necessary, given the actions of the DCP and their geopolitical stance in the MW.
01:38.12Wormy_fictionOne direction I suggest, would be to do politics in the eyes of characters, so that one could mix it in with adventure
01:38.21Hachiman^
01:38.29DrodoEmpireGood idea
01:38.30HachimanIt feels like people have forgotten that CHARACTERS are important
01:38.38OfficerJackalHmm, yeah, I like that idea as well.
01:38.45DrodoEmpireImportant, to an extent.
01:38.48Monet_Hachiman: You've not been reading the French Quadrantia Trade Zone Crisis have you?
01:38.49HachimanAll I see nowadays regarding GC is just "empire does this, empire does that" without delving into characters
01:38.49Wormy_fictionMuch of the DCP-V war is in the eyes of just a few characters
01:38.53AngrybirdsThat's what we're doing, though. Characters are an integral part of events.
01:38.58DrodoEmpire^
01:39.27AngrybirdsIt's not just faceless empires doing things, we have characters running around, conveying power, making agreements, etc.
01:39.57OfficerJackalBut yeah, we are using characters though for the most part, if you look at both stories in the Xonxenian Schism you see a shitton of characters. It's just that a few characters can't dictate what a entire political entity can do, and that's where we also have to assume the role of our empires as a whole.
01:40.01Wormy_fictionThe issue is to not make it look faceless though
01:40.17Wormy_fictionSome users it would seem feel it is going that way sometimes
01:40.28HachimanGC is just far too faceless for me to take an interest in
01:40.34Monet_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism/Bugs_In_The_Code  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism/French_Quadrantia_Trade_Route_Crisis Hachi before you go further with your opinion of Empires and not characters taking centre stage, may I suggest readign these?
01:40.48Wormy_fictionSo I want to emphasise, this character drivern direction I'm using
01:40.58OfficerJackalYeah, both of those stories have characters in them.
01:41.18DrodoEmpireSo can anyone give me a good Chinese name? Its for a fiction.
01:41.26OfficerJackalSum-ting-wong.
01:41.45Wormy_fictionTian-Yang-Bin
01:41.45OfficerJackalLol. XD I'm clueless, though.
01:41.50DrodoEmpireBrilliant.
01:41.52DrodoEmpireXD
01:41.55DrodoEmpireHmm...
01:42.02DrodoEmpireOh!
01:42.06HachimanFengdao Din
01:42.07DrodoEmpireXi Bin?
01:42.10OfficerJackalSum-ting-wong. Wi-to-lo. Bang-ding-ow.
01:42.15Wormy_fictionIts my name translated into Chinese
01:42.25DrodoEmpireHachi: Sounds good.
01:42.28Wormy_fictionwell, not properly accurate but somewhat
01:43.55Wormy_fiction*Yan Tian Bin
02:01.42DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rebel_Flag.png - Made a very simple and modifiable flag for generic rebellions. Based off of EUIV's rebel flag.
02:01.53DrodoEmpireIn case someone needed it. :P
02:02.58OfficerJackalHmm, looks good. :)
02:03.08DrodoEmpireThanks.
02:10.22Monet_Nice.
02:10.41Monet_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakon%27s_Eye there we go, not sure what else to add.
02:15.08DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ming_Imperial_State#History - Added some early history,
02:15.10DrodoEmpire*.
02:18.58Wormy_awayMonet_  I might think about the geological settings required for diamonds of such size
02:20.31Monet_Yeah, part of me did get the feeling that such a size is unlikely to happen
02:20.41DrodoEmpireMonet: Quite a nice article.
02:20.49Monet_One would probably need a *lot* of heat and pressure.
02:21.04Monet_As well as a lot of carbon
02:21.05DrodoEmpireYou know you have a fleshed-out fiction when you can write about a rock.
02:21.14DrodoEmpireA very shiny and big rock, mind you.
02:21.20DrodoEmpireXD
02:21.22Monet_DrodoEmpire: Lol
02:22.27DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ASecond_Roman_Republic - Also, I should try using this,
02:22.41DrodoEmpireWould anyone want to collab with the Romans?
02:23.24Wormy_awayNeed a lot of time too
02:25.01DrodoEmpireI guess it would be interesting if they did rediscover the rest of Humanity
02:25.04Wormy_away1-3 billion years
02:25.58Monet_SO we're also looking for a planet with a long history of life
02:26.26Wormy_awayWith thick, ancient and stable regions of crust known as cratons
02:28.02Monet_The one thing I did work out is this kind of rock probably wouldn't have come from a planet exactly like Earth.
02:28.12Monet_Needs something older, maybe with more cratons
02:28.46Wormy_awayhttp://www.diosexplo.com/images/diamondskimberlites1.jpg
02:28.59Wormy_awayhere is a pressure-temp diagram.
02:29.42Wormy_awayGenerally, lower temperatures but high pressures encourage diamonds
02:30.49Monet_I did suspect that this rock might have been extracted from within the mantle
02:32.15Wormy_awayIt is possible it could have been found, perhaps the craton was finally eroding away, or had travelled some distance thanks to a riverbed
02:33.07Wormy_awayOr maybe as it was being mined out, it exploded out of the rock with a load of fluid just like a kimberlite pipe
02:34.05Monet_I can only imagine the face of the lucky sod who sees 600cm3 uncut diamond floating downstream.
02:34.15Wormy_awayas so beautifully illustrated here http://www.overabillion.com/images/pipes.jpeg
02:34.26Wormy_awayindeed
02:34.54TekDroidDon't forget the uncut has to be bigger than the cut.
02:35.20Wormy_awayI think there may well be huge diamonds deep in the Earth that never surface
02:35.39Monet_TekDroid: I did, the cut diamond is about 449 cm3
02:35.44TekDroidOh.
02:36.07Wormy_awayOf course, the Draconis could have got it from a white dwarf or ice giant
02:36.16Wormy_awaygiven their technology
02:37.24Monet_A diamond inside a wite dwarf could be an interesting find.
02:38.26Monet_And I've so far mentioned nothign about what Orissar VII is like aside from its stellar position relative ot the otherp lanets in its parent system
02:38.41Monet_So it could be an ice giant
02:39.27Wormy_awaybye
02:39.33Monet_Bye
02:44.45TekDroidwww.imgur.com/2jfVQDV
02:46.21Monet_All the comments mentioning Karl Pilkington
02:46.32Hachimanolol
02:47.41Monet_Knowing him: Spends a week at work - > complains abotu job. Gets a week off -> complains about his vacation.
02:49.47Monet_ALso I should have thanked wormy
02:50.26Monet_He was able ot affirm with science my megadiamond can potentially exist
02:51.40TekDroidBeing validated by science is fun. XD
03:06.46Monet_Goodnight
03:09.13AngrybirdsOfficerJackal : Prince of Ballatay png.png
03:09.23Angrybirds[[File:Prince of Ballatay png.png]]
03:09.24morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Prince_of_Ballatay_png.png
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03:09.40GD12Hello
03:09.59DrodoEmpireHey
03:25.59DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire/Drodoian_Society_of_Concerned_Citizens http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ming_Imperial_State
03:26.02DrodoEmpireNew stuff
03:26.30DrodoEmpireA mostly-joking ultra conservative party, and a history expansion for the Ming
03:32.33GD12awesome
03:32.46GD12I also think I might retcon Great Deceiver a bit to segue into Attero Dominauts better
03:32.53DrodoEmpireAlright
03:33.20TekDroidI started a new Shogun 2 game. First battle I get my general's unit decimated. DX
03:33.24GD12hur
03:33.40TekDroid*save scums*
03:33.53DrodoEmpireSHAMFUR DISPRAY
03:34.47TekDroidI incorrectly predicted the reinforcement arrival point and then underestimated ots speed as my general ran ahead. DX
03:35.01DrodoEmpireOuch
03:36.13AngrybirdsI'm looking over France's page at the moment and reflecting. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I could improve France as a fiction?
03:37.15GD12cough cough AD the weekend after this one
03:39.04GD12Its honestly pretty comprehensive
03:39.16GD12Though if you wanted to you could expand on Technology
03:39.29GD12Though since you're not using any custom stuff and using already explained stuff i guess you don't need to
03:39.54Angrybirds^
03:40.50GD12You could do us all a favor and expand on Valery
03:41.04GD12History Edit ...  Personality and traits Edit ...  Politics Edit ...  Image Edit ...
03:41.07GD12way too many ...
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03:42.10Angrybirdslol, that's a good point.
03:48.45DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire/Drodoian_Society_of_Concerned_Citizens - Feel free to add quotes. XD
03:48.59DrodoEmpireMight be funny to see what people come up with, I dunno
04:21.49Angrybirds"Valéry's interactions (in college) within the social sphere also changed as he went from socially inept to honing a gift for figuring out people's intentions and desires." - You'd think he'd have a great use for this, right? NOOPE. His first use of that gift was pretty much to get girls. xD
04:22.17DrodoEmpirehur
04:24.11AngrybirdsThe politician who would go on to pull strings in the entire gigaquadrant with the use of clever manipulation, deceit, and his ever-present mask, first used his genius to get laid.
04:28.59OfficerJackalAeoneonatrix - omg Valery is distrustful and therfor evul.
04:29.06OfficerJackalomg
04:29.07OfficerJackalhalp
04:29.16OfficerJackalXD
04:29.25Angrybirds"He was by no means a part of the popular crowd, but his lonesome figure was something of a success among the females of the campus who, among other things, were attracted to his brooding stares."
05:03.22TekDroid~test
05:03.22infobotwell, test is not funny
05:04.31TekDroidI am having no luck with Shogun 2 tonight.
05:51.49GD12sup
06:03.22OfficerJackalHey!
06:26.09GD12night
06:32.47AngrybirdsKnight_Alien : Your high king is now on here: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ballatay#Allies
06:34.04Knight_AlienExcellent
06:34.22AngrybirdsOfficerJackal: When do you think you'll have the image in to me?
06:34.55OfficerJackalTomorrow most likely, if I'm lucky and quick maybe later tonight (or early morning where I am. XD)
06:36.17AngrybirdsAlright. I'm making the relevant section on Balatay's page.
06:37.50OfficerJackalAlright. :)
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08:17.38Liquid_InkTHe board is you.
08:17.45Liquid_Ink[18:15] <tsubi> wow I'm board
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08:31.03Liquid_InkErotic is my catchphrase you thieving Russian
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08:35.52AngrybirdsAdded a whole bunch to this : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Laurene_Maxime :D
08:47.08Liquid_InkI should get Wormy to do something with India.
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08:51.31Liquid_InkYour grandparents are Turkic aren't they?
08:52.10ImpyDroidBorn in a Turkic country =/= Turkif
08:52.14ImpyDroid*Turkic
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09:00.34GhelaeHello.
09:00.52tsubihi
09:01.47Liquid_InkHello
09:06.37ImpyDroidLiquid_Ink: What country is the fundamentalist Scandinavian guy supposed to represent in SatW?
09:13.26Liquid_InkWut
09:13.39Liquid_InkWhich fundamentalist Scandinavian guy?
09:17.47ImpyDroidnvm
09:17.56ImpyDroidIt's the
09:18.05ImpyDroidFaroe Islands
10:14.56HachimanHai
10:15.24tsubihey
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10:27.11Hachimanhai u
10:27.26OluapPlayerhai
10:29.09Liquid_InkAre any of you exceedingly good at Math?
10:29.34tsubino, but I'll give it a go
10:29.39Hachimannon
10:43.46ImpyDroidWell
10:43.56ImpyDroidI am fairly good at maths
10:44.16ImpyDroidHi Hachi, hi Playa
10:45.09ImpyDroidLiquid_Ink
10:45.41Liquid_InkYes?
10:46.03HachimanFairly good > Is Asian > Should be excellent
10:46.49ImpyDroidhul
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10:50.56Monet_Hello
10:51.14ImpyDroidHerro
10:51.15tsubihi
10:51.49ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: Can I make the human and Klaxxa versions of Mortium?
10:52.23OluapPlayerOf course
10:52.25OluapPlayerhi
10:53.24Monet_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakon%27s_Eye made this last night
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10:54.47OluapPlayerdumba
10:54.57Technobliteratorya dad
10:56.19ImpyDroidMonet_: *in a skritt's voice* SHINIES
10:57.54Monet_Doing some math, the centrepiece stone puts the cullinian diamond to shame.
10:59.37Monet_530 carats vs 7800 carats
11:00.38Monet_Had I not downsized the thing, it would have been over 32,000 carats, or ~6.6kg
11:02.59Monet_Not exactly wearable
11:07.39Liquid_Ink"using knowledge of indices and logarithms, convert the function from the example (A=12.3e^-0.034t) into the exponential form y=ab^x"
11:10.02Monet_Hmm
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11:10.32Monet_My maths isn't that good.
11:10.34Monet_High
11:10.41GhelaeHello.
11:11.15Monet_Do we have enough material to make a "fridge" page for the fictionverse?
11:13.31ImpyDroidYa
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11:14.14Sporeraptorhi
11:14.20Monet_Hi
11:14.27GhelaeHello.
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11:39.27Wormyhi
11:39.33Sporeraptorhi
11:45.29GhelHello.
11:45.39Wormyhi
11:45.55WormyIs this man your lecturer at all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0TNJrTlbBQ
11:52.23GhelHe is a lecturer, but he's never taught me.
11:53.06WormyI don't get this "do atoms touch" debate raging on the internet.  Molecules interact via van der waals and electrostatic forces, and bonding.  One just has to change their idea what touching is.  Touching on our scale is just a vast collection of these interactions.  The nuclei don't have to fuse to be a definition of touch
11:56.28Technobliteratorhttp://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2cuywp/m18_looking_for_girls_close_to_my_age_to_play_with/ PFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
11:56.47Technobliteratorthis made my day
11:59.25OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: That's pathetic
11:59.32Technobliteratorit is
11:59.41Technobliteratorbut his post history shows he's not just trolling
12:00.18WormyWell, when I was Dorset, right across the Jurassic coast someone who had written on the path saying "Hey ladies, don't be shy, call this number"
12:00.26Wormy*when I was in Dorset
12:00.47WormyI thought about calling it for laughs
12:02.01GhelI'll be going to Dorset for a week next Friday. If I see it, I'll let you know it's still there.
12:02.28WormyNice
12:02.46WormyWhich part?  I was near a place called Worth Matravers
12:03.10WormyNot far from Swannage
12:03.30GhelI can't remember where exactly we'll be going.
12:04.06Technobliteratoranyway, OluapPlayer, you know that Valve have soft launched Source 2?
12:04.12WormyI don't know how into geology you are but if you go to Kimmeridge Bay you will find fossils litered everywhere, literally falling out the cliff
12:04.22OluapPlayerI read about it today
12:04.33OluapPlayerSource 2 tools on Dota 2's Hammer editor
12:04.37Technobliteratoryep
12:04.45Technobliteratorand also apparently L4D2 is ported to it internally
12:05.24Wormyhttp://www.southampton.ac.uk/~imw/kimfoss.htm
12:05.44WormyYou might find bits of dinosaurs
12:06.46WormyI've been Dorset twice now, and Devon twice
12:06.56WormyOhn yes
12:07.13WormyYou might find hedges full of glow worms
12:07.52Wormyhttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140805213350/spore/images/2/2f/My_Find.png
12:08.30WormyI also saw the brightest meteor I have ever seen, its trail stayed in the sky for about 10 seconds
12:09.11WormyThese are things to look out for.
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12:09.56ImperiosHello
12:10.09Wormyhi
12:10.09OluapPlayerhi
12:11.12GhelHello.
12:20.56Wormyoh dear http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Megasharkvscrocosaurus.jpg
12:22.23OluapPlayerCrocosaurus wins cause croco
12:26.36WormyHachiman: Worf gets DENIED again and again  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edflm7Hh3hs
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12:55.44AdmiralPandahi all
13:03.28ImperiosHello
13:21.33ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140807132047/spore/images/7/7a/The_Silver_Crone.png Empire Mortium
13:21.50OluapPlayerBurning skelly face
13:22.06OluapPlayerI really like it
13:22.12HachimanLooks techy
13:22.31HachimanWait are those tits I see?
13:22.48OluapPlayerWell it's called "Crone"
13:24.23ImperiosYes
13:24.28ImperiosThat version of Mortium is female
13:24.33HachimanNice idea
13:25.48OluapPlayerMortium - TWO EXTRA BAGS
13:25.55Hachimanolol
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13:54.06Quark8Hello.
13:54.33AdmiralPandahi
13:55.13ImperiosOluapPlayer Hachiman: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140807135449/spore/images/0/0d/Klaxxa_Mortium.png ere
13:55.27HachimanLooks like a panther
13:55.36OluapPlayerWell that's unique
13:55.39ImperiosIt's a dog
13:55.49HachimanI like dis
13:55.58OluapPlayerSo the Klaxxa see the Grim Reaper as an evil looking dog
13:56.50ImperiosYep, Barghest style
13:57.08OluapPlayerI like it, it's unique
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13:57.53OluapPlayerI'm currently remaking sepulchrus
13:57.56ImpyDroidfukken thunderstorm
13:58.03ImpyDroidWhat did you say?
13:58.11OluapPlayerI said I liked your model
13:58.33OluapPlayerAnd that I'm currently remaking Sepulchrus
13:59.00ImpyDroidAdmiralPanda: Have you read the Prophet Stone yet?
13:59.11AdmiralPandaI don't think so
13:59.37ImpyDroiddum
14:02.11ImpyDroidhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Prophet_Stone Can you check it out then? I will write the second part to it today
14:02.37OluapPlayerI gotta say, so far Sepulchrus is out-spooking Mortium pretty hard
14:08.38AdmiralPandaImpyDroid: "Flaunting your sins is above me" I think you mean "beyond," I find it surprising that being grabbed knocked Javina into a state of semi-consciousness. Aside from that, it was well written and it sets up the story nicely
14:10.39ImpyDroidThanks :3
14:11.50AdmiralPandaSaying something is above you means it's of a higher standard or similar meaning of the like, so she's basically saying she's not good enough to flaunt her sins
14:11.58AdmiralPandasaying it's beyond her would mean she doesn't understand it
14:12.13AdmiralPandaalternatively saying she's above it would mean it's something lesser folk do
14:13.06ImpyDroidrite
14:13.47WormyI just thought of something ImpyDroid
14:13.55ImpyDroidHm?
14:14.35WormyThe DCP allowed for spode to exist in some of its members.  Perhaps the DCP influenced Spodic religions and incorporated them into DCP philosophy
14:15.31ImpyDroidMakes sense; I imagine the modern DCP philosophy is an amalgamation of its founding members' cultures and morals
14:15.41Wormyso that worshippers could have spodic religion (but that is DCP influenced) ans is a bit different to spode outside
14:17.27Wormybendy lego robots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCdo1UQqzbg
14:18.02OluapPlayerhttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140807141743/spore/images/9/96/Sepulchrus_Domini.png hi-five
14:18.34HachimanGeezush
14:18.38HachimanThat's really impressive
14:18.47HachimanAnd horrifying hur
14:19.38ImpyDroidIt looks like an evil kangoroo
14:19.57OluapPlayerYou need new glasses
14:20.33ImpyDroidWell the mini-skellies on its stomach reminds me of marsupial animals
14:21.15WormyCaught on tape: cameras turn video into sound  http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25999-caught-on-tape-cameras-turn-video-into-sound.html#.U-OLBPldV8E
14:21.33Wormygreat, soon CCTV will be used to listen to our voices
14:26.17AdmiralPandaIt already can be if it happens to be looking at your mouth, with sufficient magnification
14:26.46WormyThis can do it behind barriers
14:27.07AdmiralPandaTechnobliterator: I have a question for you
14:27.15Technobliteratorhm?
14:27.30AdmiralPandaWas there ever a weapon in Final Fantasy that did increased damage based on the user's health?
14:27.40TechnobliteratorYep!
14:27.42TechnobliteratorUltima Weapon
14:27.45Technobliteratorfrom FFVI onwards
14:28.05AdmiralPandaWell there you go, it got referenced in League of Legends
14:28.09Technobliterator:o
14:28.13AdmiralPandaand now I have to support for my scrub of a friend
14:28.39Technobliteratorhehe
14:28.41Technobliteratorgood luck
14:28.43Technobliterator:p
14:28.53AdmiralPandaeh I'll be fine, I'm going to "Support" Lux
14:29.37AdmiralPandanote the parenthesis, because what I'm really going to do is buy a Mejai's (gain 8 spell power on kills or assists) and just steal kills until I can 100-0 people with one combo
14:30.03Technobliteratorniice
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14:30.25Monet_Hello
14:30.48AdmiralPandaI still don't understand DotA's itemisation system
14:31.06AdmiralPandaI've tried, it just doesn't make sense to me
14:31.15AdmiralPandaalso hi Monet
14:31.43Technobliteratorwhat's wrong with it?
14:31.52HachimanSo I'm working on the Lagosi and I'm wondering if the Munki and humans/elves/dorfs can reproduce with them
14:32.01HachimanNo wait
14:32.20HachimanI meant Munki and humans/elves/dorfs, not Munki/elves/humans/dorfs reproducing with Lagosi hur
14:32.32AdmiralPandaTechnobliterator: keep in mind I haven't played, but from what I understand there are only three stats, and those stats give you subtly different things based on whether or not your hero is aligned with that particular stat
14:33.00Technobliteratorwell
14:33.39Technobliteratoritem called butterfly, gives 30 agility. an agility hero gets +30 damage and +30 speed as well as some armor. non-agility hero only gets +30 speed and armor
14:33.54Technobliteratorsame item givse +30 damage and +30 speed normally, outside of the agility. all heroes get that
14:34.39AdmiralPandaThat's the part that makes no sense to me, it changes based on whether or not the hero is aligned with that attribute
14:34.55AdmiralPandaalso is that attack damage or ability damage?
14:35.11WormyOld computers did it better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wDtxYeJdzg
14:35.15Wormyfunny to watch
14:35.17Technobliteratorattack damage, there's no ability damage in dota
14:35.25AdmiralPandanow that's heresy :P
14:35.30Technobliteratorheh
14:35.43Technobliteratorthere are some abilities that increase in damage based on your attribute stats, but not that many
14:36.06AdmiralPandaare there even spellcaster champs then? because the only spells that would be worth anything are utility since your autos would quickly out-power them
14:36.30AdmiralPandaI suppose it streamlines defence itemisation but it removes a bit of the versatility imo
14:36.46OluapPlayerI take by ability damage you mean damage done by spells
14:36.47Technobliteratorthey are, but they do tons of damage at level 16 and drop off later in the game
14:36.52Technobliterator*there are
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14:37.20HachimanSince the Munmi are Chinese-inspired, I should totally make a Jackie Chan expy hur
14:37.20AdmiralPandaOluapPlayer: Yeah, the stat is Ability Power in League so that's why I called it that
14:37.22JepardiHi
14:37.31HachimanMunki*
14:37.37OluapPlayerEach spell has set damage in Dota
14:37.53OluapPlayerThose can increase or decrease according to buffs, debuffs and magic resistance
14:38.28AdmiralPandaThat I find silly because it leaves out some of the versatility in your casting style, whether you prefer to AP nuke, MR nuke or DoT burn
14:38.57Monet_Hachiman: We have beastmen and its a fantasy setting so I say why not?
14:39.11OluapPlayerI got no opinion on it, I've not played Dota in months
14:39.38Technobliterator^nor have I really
14:39.57OluapPlayerGame got boring, the community is toxic and most importantly, it gets on the way of fiction
14:39.59TechnobliteratorI watched the International 4 but that's about it
14:40.22Technobliteratorcommunity is definitely toxic, but I didn't find it boring, just tiring
14:40.25AdmiralPandaI mostly watch League pro series for the casters :P
14:40.47OluapPlayerEvery game was "hope 4 friends are online so I can perhaps play a support"
14:41.11Technobliteratoryou mean "perhaps not play a support"? :p
14:41.19OluapPlayerNo i mean what I said
14:41.25Technobliteratoroh
14:41.27OluapPlayerI never had the chance of playing anything else
14:41.27HachimanI wonder how effective a drunken-style Munki martial artist would be when faced with your sword/spear-wielding human/elven adventurers and the likes as well as some of the immortal warriors running around
14:41.43TechnobliteratorI know what you mean
14:41.53OluapPlayerProbably not as effective as you think
14:42.10HachimanBare hands don't seem like much of an effective weapon in the Fantasyverse unless you're an immortal or you're part of a naturally strong species
14:42.13TechnobliteratorI might play again when the workshop tools are released, only for the custom maps, but eh not going to play main game again
14:42.29AdmiralPandaHachiman: No unarmed-vs-weapon style is about strength
14:42.32AdmiralPandaliterally none of them
14:42.38AdmiralPandathey're all about evasion and deflection
14:42.38TechnobliteratorFinal Fantasy made me lose pretty much all interest
14:42.56Technobliteratorbcuz best games evaar omg u guise
14:43.03OluapPlayershup
14:43.05AdmiralPandaso the question is, is there someone fast enough to actually make it work
14:43.08HachimanAdmiralPanda: butbut armour
14:43.16Monet_Listen to the martial arts expert.
14:43.17AdmiralPandaHachiman: but but break your arm in three places
14:43.38AdmiralPandaand I'd hardly call myself an expert :P
14:43.43WormyShaolin Monks
14:43.56TechnobliteratorYang, Sabin and Tifa say "hi"
14:43.59OluapPlayerAre you saying you're going to break the armored man's arm, or are you saying you'll berak your arm punching him?
14:44.09OluapPlayerBecause the second one sounds more likely
14:44.16HachimanSo many characters wear armour in the Fantasyverse it's a wonder if unarmed martial arts would do anything to them
14:44.17HachimanBut then again, that's why you try to find and hit unarmoured spots
14:44.19AdmiralPandaOluapPlayer: You'll break the armoured man's arm, not by punching him, but by manipulating the joint
14:44.39AdmiralPandaguys, it's not about HITTING them. You deflect their attack, grapple them, then manipulate the joint to breaking point
14:45.01AdmiralPandaleave the wrist, elbow and shoulder inoperable and they literally cannot fight oyu
14:45.06Monet_Fights are about getting though your opponents defences and incapacitating them, nto hitting them until they fall over
14:45.08OluapPlayerFighting style - BARE DAMN HANDS
14:45.11AdmiralPandathat's how unarmed combat style work
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14:45.42TekDroidHello
14:46.44Monet_Video games have always used health bars because for a long time simulating the realistic effects of injury is either too complex for the engine or leaves a boss batle as over in minutes
14:46.45OluapPlayerI won't say anything since I got nothing in fiction who does standard unarmed combat
14:46.58OluapPlayerOnly thing I got are the Vulcanus Men who cheat by being lava people
14:47.38AdmiralPandaNow that I think of it, one of the most famous unarmed styles has never hitting your opponent as a core discipline- you just dodge and deflect until the other guy gives up and leaves.
14:48.08OluapPlayer"stop rolling you fuck"
14:48.17AdmiralPandabasically
14:49.23Monet_I've read that the key thing ot do in boxing is to wear your opponent out. And that most boxers either do that by delivering crippling blows or outlasting your opponents.
14:50.04OluapPlayerOnly issue I see in unarmed combat in the fantasyverse is that not every opponent you'll face is a humanoid equivalent to you in body build
14:50.09OluapPlayerYou got dragons and stuff running around
14:50.31HachimanI can imagine Merovar being terrifying unarmed opponents because snake flexibility hur
14:50.45AdmiralPandaclearly you need magic gauntlets that strengthen your blows proportional to your willpower
14:50.48Monet_The latter boxing tactic you can do by either having enough stamina or dodging every blow thrown at you
14:50.49OluapPlayerWell we already figured out they don't use shields
14:51.04AdmiralPandaand that's not a TTGL reference btw, it's D&D
14:52.30OluapPlayerAdmiralPanda: I don't think I showed you, but I've seen a 4chan thing about one guy who proposed creating a golem to punch a troll repeatedly in order to keep it unconscious because it as fire and acid proof
14:52.35OluapPlayerCue troll being punched by golem for all eternity
14:53.21AdmiralPanda…why?
14:53.25AdmiralPandagolems are expensive bro
14:53.37AdmiralPandaI mean it's funny but we're talking a 10-20'000 gold investment here
14:53.47OluapPlayerYou answered your own question
14:54.04HachimanI can imagine a large number of Lagosi warriors use jujutsu-style martial arts, which involve primarily grapples and throws but since Lagosi have a LOT of lower-leg strength they probably incorporate kicks as a major part of their strategy as well. Lagosi kicks can actually shatter bone and perhaps even crumple lighter armour
14:55.07HachimanI should demonstrate that one day, Kanna kicking an opponent and watching as a ribcage or a limb just cripples under the attack
14:55.30Monet_AdmiralPanda: Marcus Licinius Crassus - Sounds like a decent investment to me
14:55.31OluapPlayerYou can do that in the next vampire rp hur
14:57.10Monet_Hachiman: I take it kickboxing is popular then
14:57.33AdmiralPandaMonet_: I could spend that same amount of money on a gauntlet that lets me cast Drain Energy any number of times per day as a touch attack
14:58.02HachimanMonet_: A Lagosi kicking another Lagosi would certainly lead to death because while Lagosi have powerful leg strength, the rest of their bodies are humanlike in output
14:58.42Monet_AdmiralPanda: My point was it definitely sounds like something that a rich twat with far more disposable income than common sense would invest in
15:00.01Monet_Hachiman: I was going to suggest Taekwondo bit its a Korean martial art.
15:00.27HachimanDoesn't mean Lagosi can't use something similar hur
15:04.28Monet_Thinking about it...is i me or is the East less tolerant of mashing up nations than Europe is. Mount and Blade has a faction that's a combination of Italy and Germany and a faction that could interchangeably be either England or France and yet in GW2 there was going to be a district in Divinity's Reach that used a combination of Chinese and Korean architecture and both societies opposed the idea.
15:05.04Monet_I think there was going to be a bit of Japan in that district too
15:05.26ImpyDroidMonet_: Definitely
15:05.33HachimanNational pride
15:05.41HachimanNational and cultural pride
15:05.42ImpyDroidWell
15:06.05ImpyDroidThe Chinese and the Japanese and especially the Koreans and the Japanese don't like each other
15:06.31Monet_Yeah but until 1912 England and France  have a blood feud since the early middle ages.
15:06.38Monet_had a*
15:07.00ImpyDroidFusing Chinese/Korean and Japanese elements in fiction is not like mixing Britain and France
15:07.10ImpyDroidIt's like Nazi Jews
15:07.34Monet_Well...France did have a HUGE influence on English culture over the years
15:07.51HachimanIf you look at China, Japan, and Korea, they hold many more differences than France and England do, even today
15:08.02ImpyDroidGerman culture had an influence on Jewish culture
15:08.17ImpyDroidYou don't see any Nazi Jews running around in fiction hur
15:08.18Monet_Okay but what about the other example I gave - Italy and Germany.
15:08.55Monet_Thinking about it said faction I think also has some medieval balklands influence too
15:10.14Monet_Wait a minute, the root is Western individualism vs Eastearn communal mentality again isn't it?
15:10.28ImpyDroidThe main difference is that between the East Asian cultures, the feud is recent
15:10.41ImpyDroidBut ancient
15:11.06HachimanI think you mean it's ancient and *still* ongoing
15:11.14ImpyDroidAnd the Japanese haven't gone through the whole "repent for our sins" phase like Germany
15:11.39ImpyDroidWell, it's no longer violent
15:12.03Monet_So while Europeean nations put their differences aside and formed multinational initiatives, Eastern nations still prefer to keep at arms reach from each other?
15:12.18ImpyDroidMonet_: Well, the Russians are pretty touchy about their culture as wel
15:12.30ImpyDroidIsrael, too
15:12.38ImpyDroidDo the Jews count as an European culture?
15:13.08Monet_Jews have lived in Europe for over a thousand years os I'd suggest yes
15:14.07ImpyDroidIt's not the difference in mentality, it's history, mostly
15:14.24ImpyDroid(that's about Asia
15:15.07ImpyDroidAlso, N-word priviliges
15:15.27Monet_Does the history have at least some kind of root in mentality?
15:15.53ImpyDroidPeople can mix cultures from their own civilisation but not from the foreign ones
15:17.05Monet_Then again when it comes to trends and movements since the Italian Rennaissance, I'm seeing many changes in Asia occuring years or decades after they spread though Europe.
15:18.33ImpyDroidBefore that it was the other way around
15:19.08WormyHachiman:  DA front page http://jjvanhossen.deviantart.com/art/Commission-Bouncy-Roswitha-Emofuri-PSD-Animation-473600934
15:19.11ImpyDroidNot to mention the fact that the Renaissance was only possible becsuse of the Middle East preservijg civilisation
15:19.27Monet_China is only in these last few years giving their workforce some kind of minimum wage, Japanese animation only reached awareness beyond its bordersbetween the 60s and 80s, China and North Korea are only very recently realising the health of the nation coincided with the health of the land.
15:19.46Wormynot as bad as http://www.deviantart.com/art/Leisure-Time-473610983
15:20.15Monet_And between roughly 1400-1800 Japanese war techology was largely unchanged.
15:20.33ImpyDroidYes, yes, there were reasons for all of this
15:20.40ImpyDroidYou start to sound a bit rude
15:21.58ImpyDroid*are starting
15:22.19Monet_Sorry. I wonder if Japan is a bit overrated at times.
15:22.37HachimanUh how
15:22.44Technobliteratorjapan owns
15:23.38ImpyDroidIt's a country
15:24.24Monet_Hachiman: Like the number of people on DA who request for anime or manga style art.
15:24.53HachimanJapan is a leading pioneer in modern entertainment, most particularly animation and game design, and is one of the fastest-developing countries in the history of the world while not having discredited its cultural background
15:25.33Monet_Impy said himself its oging though a "repent for our sins" phase.
15:25.34Wormyhttp://5ofnovember.deviantart.com/art/take-off-473625591
15:25.40Technobliteratorfeudal japan is the most badass point in history
15:25.47Monet_Which nomrally involves sweeping a few incidents under the rug
15:26.08HachimanI won't deny Japan does sweep its incidents under the rug but it more than makes up for them in the current day
15:26.40HachimanIt's economy is flourishing as is its health care, its military is one of the most well-funded and competent, as its only used to defend the country as they can't legally initiate war.
15:26.42ImpyDroidTechnobliterator: *cough* Feudal Europe *cough* Islamic Golden Age *cough* Victorian Britain
15:26.54TechnobliteratorLOL
15:26.57Technobliteratorokay, Islamic Golden Age sure
15:27.03Technobliteratorbut Victorian Britain is boring
15:27.09ImpyDroidI concur
15:27.09WormyI thought Japan had a problem that more young people were leaving it
15:27.12TechnobliteratorFeudal Europe, okay, but I prefer Japan
15:27.15ImpyDroidIt is beautiful and cool
15:27.20ImpyDroid*I digress
15:27.24Monet_"leading pioneer in modern entertainment, most particularly |....| game design" Like Nintendo, Square Enix and Sony?
15:27.38TechnobliteratorMetal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy
15:27.38Wormyctorian Britain is boring?  Not imo, the industrial revolution fascinates me then again I live where it began
15:27.40HachimanAnd Konami
15:27.59HachimanI like the Wild Western era of the US as much as I do the Feudal Era of Japan
15:28.05Technobliteratorit's important to note most of the biggest megacorporations are Japanese
15:28.21Technobliteratorsony and panasonic spring to mind
15:28.26Monet_Wormy: Japan is experiencing the tail end of a baby boomer period, it has a rapidly ageing population
15:28.42TechnobliteratorImpyDroid, I do not find Victorian Britain interesting, it was to me the most boring part of all my history lessons
15:28.58Monet_Okay and what about Ford or Rupert Murdoch's media empire.
15:28.59WormyIt was just taught badly
15:29.06WormyLike most shit in school
15:29.09Technobliteratormost definitely
15:29.14Technobliteratorbut I never took any interest in it
15:29.21HachimanFord cooperated with the Nazi party iirc
15:29.23Technobliteratorperhaps I'm too harsh on it
15:29.25WormyI did a great module in it college
15:29.50WormyAbout the industrial revolution, we got to visit many of the great mills and machines the Victorians built
15:30.05Monet_The most prosperous film industry is still Holylwood and Silicon Valley is becoming a more prosperous business park than ever
15:30.13Monet_Bith are in California
15:31.04Monet_And tw oof the leading companies in space commercialisation are the *British* Virgin Galactic and *AMerican* SpaceX
15:31.12TechnobliteratorHollywood is boring
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15:31.29Technobliteratoralso hi GD12
15:31.33ImpyDroidHachiman: Japan as a country cooperated with the Nazis hur
15:31.35GD12that was fast
15:31.39Monet_Technobliterator: Are you denying their international extent though?
15:31.41Monet_Hi
15:31.41HachimanImpyDroid: Well yeah hur
15:31.43WormyRiver Don Engine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOBSfdBWSWY
15:31.50Technobliteratorno I'm not, I'm declaring that I find them boring
15:32.07GD12If anyones interested I made what totalled a 30,000 char edit on this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny/History
15:32.08WormyI'm impressed by their innovation
15:32.09HachimanJapan also didn't need to cooperate with Nazis to get shit done, they invaded and occupied CHINA twice
15:32.12GD12The result is a completed history page
15:32.15ImpyDroidHollywood is meh
15:32.39ImpyDroidHachiman: That is... not exactly an accomplishment
15:32.44Technobliteratorand to your point about space commercialisation - and you'll have to correct me if I'm wrong - is it not Japan who have done work on the space elevator?
15:32.52HachimanImpyDroid: How so?
15:32.53Monet_Hachiman: Unlike France or Russia though, China was a divided nation
15:33.01HachimanHm true
15:33.04Wormyhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Bessemer_5180.JPG
15:33.11ImpyDroidAnd China was conquered countless times anyway
15:33.20Monet_Technolbiterator: Actually several nations have been working on it
15:33.41ImpyDroidChina's power is in its culture and population, not its military
15:33.47Technobliteratori wish they'd hurry the fuck up with that
15:33.58Technobliteratorit'd sort out so many economic problems if they did
15:34.13GD12That and it's popukation as well as it's continent in resources
15:34.22GD12*cntinent size landmass
15:34.29GD12military power stems from that as well
15:34.41GD12Ming China had an OP army by the standards of the time
15:34.41ImpyDroidMonet_: Hollywood does not produce good movies hur
15:34.43WormyPeople think the West could sanction China and starve its industry, but in in fact holds some of the largest depositsa of rare earth elements
15:34.48Monet_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obayashi_Corporation I had a look and this company say they plan to launch a space elevator in 38 years
15:34.57ImpyDroidIt's like anime
15:35.01TechnobliteratorTHIRTY EIGHT YEARS WHAT
15:35.07TechnobliteratorTHIRTY EIGHT MOTHERFUCKING YEARS
15:35.09TechnobliteratorARE YOU JOKING
15:35.11TechnobliteratorASDA XFADFFADFASDGADBGD
15:35.13Wormyno rare earths, no fancy phones
15:35.15Technobliteratordestroys her keyboard
15:35.46WormyI'm more interested in space mining
15:35.57GD12Aye
15:36.06GD12I think a few billionaires are getting together on a projectl iek that
15:36.06Monet_"In 2008 the book "Leaving the Planet by Space Elevator", by Dr. Brad Edwards and Philip Ragan, was published in Japanese and entered the Japanese best seller list.[25] This has led to a Japanese announcement of intent to build a Space Elevator at a projected price tag of a trillion yen (£5 billion/ $8 billion)."
15:36.11WormyMaybe that will be my job
15:36.13ImpyDroidWormy: And we'll just freeze you to death by cutting off the oil supply hur
15:36.14Technobliteratorthat is why I say it would solve economic problems, if they can launch ships up cheaply, then they can mine the resources of the moon
15:36.30ImpyDroid...fuk
15:36.30Technobliteratoranyone who did that would be rich
15:36.34ImpyDroidThat makes Russia useless
15:36.42Hachimanolol
15:36.53GD12Except Russia has Baikonur Cosmodrome
15:36.54WormyWe have enough fuel coming from Qatar to actually last Britain for centuries, it is just that other powers have to use it too
15:36.59GD12and NASA is bankrupt as fuq
15:37.21ImpyDroidGD12: That we have to loan from the Kazakhs hur
15:37.35GD12true hur
15:37.40HachimanYeah but Russian cosmotravel is of nyet quality
15:37.50Monet_Looking up Japan is doing what it has normally been doing for the past 30 years - bringing in western innovators and using local engineering  industries to make progress.
15:37.53ImpyDroidOne day, my friends
15:38.27ImpyDroidOne day we'll regain our rightful place in the world
15:38.29ImpyDroidONE. DAY.
15:38.38HachimanTheir ministry of space is of drunk on vodka and dancing to send up working cosmoships
15:38.48ImpyDroidHur
15:38.58Wormycosmoships
15:39.01ImpyDroidIt's pretty much true hur
15:39.05Wormygood name
15:39.08Monet_ell looking at the Wikipedia space elevator page, the first people to come up with the Space Elevator concept were...Russian
15:39.12HachimanWormy: Copyrighted hur
15:39.24WormySoviet SPAAACE russia should use it in the SporeWikiverse
15:39.28Wormyoh
15:39.33ImpyDroidWell
15:39.41HachimanNah it's not, go ahead and use it if you wanna
15:39.50ImpyDroidIn Russian, spaceships are called "cosmic ships"
15:39.55ImpyDroidDo Hachi is half-right
15:40.02ImpyDroid*So
15:40.05Wormycosmocraft
15:40.11Wormydasmn
15:40.13HachimanOnly Russians would think of something as silly as an elevator that goes to the moon
15:40.13Monet_That explains why russian astonauts were/are called cosmonoauts
15:40.20HachimanYou can tell what they were of drinking that day
15:40.29WormyI'm actually fed up of calling spaecraft "ships", its far too nauticle
15:40.41WormyBut spacecraft sounds dull
15:40.52WormyCosmocraft sounds better
15:40.53HachimanWormy: I wanna live in an age where we refer to spacecraft as "birds"
15:40.55AdmiralPandaWormy: I see no problem using Ship
15:41.11Monet_Wormy: WHat about "vessel"?
15:41.20ImpyDroidnuclear wessel
15:41.23Monet_Technically the term is very unspecific
15:41.24ImpyDroids
15:41.26WormyVessel is far too ancient
15:41.37Monet_A jar is a vessel
15:41.45Wormyprecisely
15:41.55WormyNo-one calls air-craft, airjars
15:41.56AdmiralPandaSo basically what you're saying is you think it should be cosmocraft because you say it should be :P
15:42.09Wormyyes, to my aesthetic taste
15:42.40Monet_We do use the term airliner though
15:42.50GD12perhaps theyll have a proper noun based on whoever gets a spacecraft out first
15:42.52HachimanAstroliner or cosmoliner
15:42.54Wormyor 4x4's, 4 wheeled vessels
15:43.12AdmiralPandafunnily enough, the word "ship" originally simply meant any vehicle used for transport
15:43.15ImpyDroidMonet_: "Cosmos" is the generic term for space in Russia
15:43.28GD12cosmoboat
15:43.31Monet_Actually that's the interesting thing.
15:43.49Monet_The closest we have to sci-fi space vessels are more like planes than boats
15:43.52AdmiralPandaGD12: Then you'd need a cosmoship, because boat specifically refers to any craft launched from a ship
15:44.02GD12exactly huri
15:45.22Monet_At present, NASA uses USAF rankings and the most noteable spacecraft - the space shuttle, the Virgin galactic planes and Skylon look more like planes
15:46.27WormyNazis  Moonbase conspiracy  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGuFPLM70vQ
15:46.31HachimanI saw a news report recently saying that Japan plans to use its military to target and destroy space junk in Earth's orbit
15:46.43HachimanOr at least track space junk
15:47.02AdmiralPandaWormy: You and your conspiracies
15:47.25WormyAs long as they don't cause kessler syndrome
15:47.48Monet_"blowing up" space junk can easily make things much worse
15:47.59Monet_You need ot annihilate any space junk
15:48.14ImpyDroidhur, I am in a drug store ATM and one of the customers said he wouldn't buy Ukrainian medicine for patriotic reasons
15:48.17ImpyDroidcute
15:49.20Monet_If a sattelite is smashed you tun one big piece int oover 300 little pieces, al ltravelling around 10-15 kilometres per SECOND
15:53.00WormyThe best way to clear up debris is to use a laser
15:53.53HachimanMonet_: If that happens, they will continue to cut all of the little pieces into nothing with grorious nippon steer
15:55.43Monet_Well I'm not paying for them to get the swords up there lol.
15:58.52Monet_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188133 anyway I thought about this but need help
16:00.59TekDroidI'd help but haven't read fantasyverse enough.
16:01.27TekDroidOh wait, read the title wrong.
16:02.52Monet_Added a tiny update at the bottom
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16:07.56TekDroidHello
16:08.24Monet_Hello
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16:14.43HachimanOluapPlayer: I'm wondering if Hachi and Clotho having Circe would've been entirely natural or if magic somehow helped in it
16:15.06OluapPlayerEh
16:15.08OluapPlayerI'd say natural
16:17.29HachimanSo if beastmen and deiwes can breed together, what's stopping breeding between kelodhres and deiwes/beastmen?
16:17.47AdmiralPandahaving Circe
16:17.47HachimanAside from size differences hur
16:17.48OluapPlayerPotentially nothing
16:17.54AdmiralPandawhen did sex become incest?
16:18.03AdmiralPandawait wrong spelling
16:22.01TechnoIsAwaybbl
16:35.38Monet__Hachiman: Half dragons
16:35.53Monet__Sounds freaky
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16:36.59ImperiosRight guys
16:37.04Monet__Anyway I added a few fridge memoents I remember having with people onto the forum post
16:37.13ImperiosNow I will finally work on something
16:37.49ImperiosWhat should I do: rework Javi's page, write Prophet Stone, or make a page for Thessina?
16:38.22Monet__Thessina page
16:38.37OluapPlayerProphet Stone
16:42.12OluapPlayerI'll see if I can make a page for the Eastern Plains
16:42.21OluapPlayerI wanna have a complete and organized page for each major region
16:42.33Imperiosrite
16:42.44OluapPlayeryall help hur
16:44.23Imperiosofc I will
16:44.56OluapPlayerI gotta know who comes from there
16:45.06OluapPlayerAll I can think of atm are the Klaxxa
16:45.36OluapPlayerAnd the Ordnung of course
16:46.33ImperiosDo humans count?
16:46.44OluapPlayerI don't know, do they?
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16:47.28OluapPlayerWe will never know
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16:47.58ImperiosWell I am not sure where the humans originated in the first place, but the Imperial humans as we know them are definitely native to the Eastern Plains
16:47.58ImperiosAnd the Sea of Sand
16:48.19WormyAll is set in motion for the robot uprising https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jP6AMAW564
16:48.26OluapPlayerIn that case whoever humans come from the EP can be listed as EP natives I think
16:49.22OluapPlayerAccording to the main page, the Lunsincth and the inland seas are also there
16:49.34OluapPlayerI also see the EP as the homeland of the Fire and Light Drakes
16:49.43OluapPlayerI can see this region having a lot of dragons hur
16:50.53OluapPlayerThere's also Tartarion
16:51.17OluapPlayerImperios: Do you plan on using the Vrorekaa? iirc you control them now
16:51.49Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Min_Lagosi#History History done
16:51.57OluapPlayeryey
16:54.41OluapPlayerLagosi - heers a fluffy buni for u *burns ship down*
16:56.36OluapPlayerI enjoyed reading the Min Lagosi history, it was really well written and engaging
16:56.56Imperios>> there are humans who live amongst the Lagosi, studying their ways and culture for Imperial colleges and academies on the mainland, primarily scholars.
16:57.02ImperiosImperial Weeaboos hur
16:57.33HachimanI wonder if I overdo Lagosi names a bit
16:57.49OluapPlayerNot really no
16:58.02OluapPlayerImperios: I'm talking to u
16:59.55ImperiosOh
17:00.04ImperiosYeah, I think I do
17:00.09ImperiosThey'll be among the Klaxxa's servant races
17:00.20OluapPlayerrite I'll list them on the page then
17:00.37OluapPlayerThose Imperial Dragons in the EoM, are they from the east?
17:02.45ImperiosYeah, kinda
17:02.53OluapPlayerkinda
17:02.55OluapPlayerYes or no hur
17:03.19Wormymore mindfukery http://phys.org/news/2014-07-quantum-cheshire-cat-neutrons.html
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17:04.00ImperiosWell they descended from different dragons who settled in the Eastern plains and have since then become a species of its own
17:04.14OluapPlayerAnd is this species from the Eastern Plains?
17:05.08ImperiosYa
17:05.12OluapPlayerrite
17:05.24OluapPlayeryeah EP's got a lot of dragons
17:05.58OluapPlayerEarth Drakes, Fire Drakes, Imperial Dragons, Klaxxa, Light Drakes, Lunsincth
17:06.56HachimanWormy: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10382445_272720169592013_7658540488346698797_n.png
17:07.56Wormydon't geddit
17:10.07HachimanThat's Neil deGrasse Tyson
17:10.09AdmiralPandaYou know who that is right
17:11.29OluapPlayerImperios Hachiman: Would you say the Empire and the Sovereign started at the Eastern Plains?
17:11.54Monet_AdmiralPanda: Famous astrophysicist
17:12.13Monet_That...probably sohuld have been directed to Wormy
17:12.15WormyI thought it was Niel, but tbh I was too afraid to say
17:12.21AdmiralPandaMonet_: I am fully aware of who NdGT is, and it was well and truly directed at Wormy
17:12.29WormyEncase I was wrong hur
17:12.52HachimanOluapPlayer: I'm not entirely sure where the Sovereign started, which Sovereign elves are at EP?
17:13.03ImperiosOluapPlayer: Yeah
17:13.11ImperiosEastern Plains and the Sea of Sand
17:13.12OluapPlayerAdsiduus, Erylia and Tamaraul
17:13.17Imperios(if you're talking about the Empire)
17:13.21WormyHe's probably doing some complex monty carlo simulation
17:13.26ImperiosAs for the Sovereign, I think it was founded in the west
17:13.33WormyOr more likely, checking his emails
17:13.58HachimanAye Sovereign is more likely to have been started in/near the Western Forests
17:14.08OluapPlayerSince the first Sovereign race to be made was the Aithrena I always imagined them being the founders
17:14.12OluapPlayerAnd they're from the Forests
17:14.28OluapPlayerOk then that's what I needed
17:14.38OluapPlayerlist ur plains empires pls
17:15.44HachimanI have no species in the Eastern Plains I think
17:16.04OluapPlayerAr-Klith Empire, Cobalt Kingdom, EoM, Vermin Kingdom
17:16.06HachimanAside from gnolls
17:16.12OluapPlayeris that all we got in the Plains?
17:16.33HachimanDryadali Sovereign
17:16.37HachimanThey're in the Plains
17:16.40OluapPlayerI mean natives
17:16.42HachimanOh
17:18.18OluapPlayerOh wait one of Catface's fic is also there
17:19.37OluapPlayerStill the region is a lot less populated than I imagined
17:26.03HachimanI think that despite the fact that Min Lagosi is a secluded island-based nation, it's gonna be hard for me to outdo their history with mainland empires like the Honsaru Domain and the Sovereign
17:26.40OluapPlayerTrying to actively out-do yourself will harm your productivity
17:26.44OluapPlayerI'd say don't worry about it
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17:29.22Knight_AlienHello
17:30.40Monet_Hello
17:31.00Monet_I have a friend who no matter how well he makes a picture will find any reason ot consider it a pierce of crap.
17:32.38Monet_So my experience is it won't just hurt your productivity, it can also hurt your psyche
17:32.47HachimanBut that's a healthy attitude to have
17:33.02HachimanYour only competition really is yourself and thus you'll constantly try to outdo your previous work
17:33.06OluapPlayerI'd call that obsessive, not healthy
17:34.07OluapPlayerYou do a thing, it's perfectly fine yet you somehow don't see it as "better", you scrap the thing. Or you just do nothing at all because you don't think you can outdo yourself
17:34.40Monet_OluapPLayer: THat's him, yeah.
17:36.18Monet_He's a good artist. he has some interesting character designs, but its impossible for him to see his work anying other than a piece of rubbish that he'd rather hide away forever
17:36.55HachimanOluapPlayer: How do you do those little minipic tabber sections like you do on your species sections?
17:39.20OluapPlayerHachiman: You can just copy one from one of my pages
17:39.44OluapPlayerNow I have to do something, bbl
17:40.00Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/10593162_272679549596075_4042492568158369964_n.jpg butbut cringe
17:40.15OluapAwaybutbut FINISH PAEG
17:40.19OluapAwaybai
17:53.13TekDroid~test
17:53.13infoboti guess test is not funny
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17:55.59DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
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17:56.31GD12Hello
17:57.27GD12Also fun fact AD resumes in less than 10 days
17:58.40TekDroidHello
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18:00.51CezannicusMy recaptcha was "112"
18:00.55CezannicusOnly that
18:00.57CezannicusWHY
18:01.02CezannicusAlso,, hello
18:01.59Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Min_Lagosi Their history is done
18:02.09CezannicusNice work
18:02.14HachimanNow working on their Warrior and Naval Guilds
18:02.28CezannicusI need to get on with the history of the [[Fiction:Magalin Domain]]
18:02.29morgothBotPyCezannicus meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Magalin_Domain
18:02.46CezannicusJust categories now
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18:26.09ImperiosCan I use "excelsior" as an adjective in English?
18:26.18ImperiosAs in, "her career was going excelsior"
18:26.26HachimanI wouldn't think so
18:26.54DrodoEmpireNot possible
18:27.23HachimanYou could say "her career was in an exemplary state" though if you wanted
18:28.34HachimanOr "in exemplary condition"
18:37.46Imperiosrite
18:38.52Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/983760_304498349710867_2634570963867743568_n.jpg?oh=7bbc7661e637fd86c0c562374ee1535f&oe=54597556&__gda__=1414320314_6c751c5ef748c656e257ba276702e84f
18:44.50DrodoEmpirelol
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18:53.56Hachimanspu
18:54.03Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Min_Lagosi chek dis
18:54.04ImperiosohX
18:54.14HachimanNot done yet but coming along well
18:54.16Xhotook ur dam tiem
18:55.48Monet_Hello
18:56.41XhoMany long names
18:56.57ImperiosThat was my idea hur
18:59.22XhoHachiman: Did you delete the Serpent
18:59.26HachimanYes
18:59.29XhoRight
18:59.35XhoHm
18:59.42XhoI can make replacement HOHOHOHOHOHOHOH
19:02.56Monet_Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188133 any suggestions for this?
19:03.58XhoI have none
19:04.21Monet_Yeah this is probaly a difficult suggestion
19:06.41Monet_Maybe I should scrap the post. The feedback issue is chronic enough already.
19:06.49TekDroidUgh... my sibling is watching that "Long Island Medium" show. I can see through it clearly and am getting yelled at to leave. -.-
19:07.48Wormy_awayI have one.
19:08.35Monet_Wormy_away: I'm interested.
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19:22.36XhoBah
19:22.42XhoPower got cut upstairs
19:23.23DrodoEmpireHey Patriot
19:23.27DrodoEmpireAnd hello Xho
19:24.14Patriot868whats new?
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19:29.33XhoSon of a bitch
19:31.51XhoNow my internet is more like an unternet
19:33.15OluapPlayerkek
19:33.51Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/s526x395/10509619_272782366252460_6254547359054549607_n.png
19:33.56HachimanGotta brb again, pudding
19:34.41XhoMortium - drat.
19:34.43OluapPlayerdidnt even greet me
19:34.47OluapPlayerhow dare u
19:34.48Xhoups
19:34.53Xhoshups
19:34.54OluapPlayerboth u and hachi
19:34.58OluapPlayershamefur dispray everywhere
19:35.40XhoIf I do replace the Serpent's character I will probably call him 'Advocate'
19:35.41XhoOr it
19:35.53OluapPlayerSerpent was never a serpent
19:36.03OluapPlayerXho: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140807141743/spore/images/9/96/Sepulchrus_Domini.png grabby hand
19:36.16XhoHis arm is triplenito
19:37.21XhoHm someone give me a quote to put on top of Nalashtannylor's page
19:37.31OluapPlayer"dum" -Caligaduro
19:38.06OluapPlayerI got nothing
19:38.22Xho"dum" - Nalashtannylor
19:39.43XhoHachiman: I realised that Dancers To A Discordant System's triplet-like feel is like a waltz -> Waltz -> Dance -> Dancers
19:41.30OluapPlayerXho: What did you change on the territory map yesterday? The wiki is being dum and not updating the picture for me
19:41.43XhoI added the Bay of Orayu to it
19:41.49OluapPlayerwat dat
19:42.24XhoOrayu = Maras' race
19:42.28OluapPlayerAh
19:42.45XhoYeah it hasn't updated for me either
19:42.59OluapPlayerIt's an issue with the wiki
19:43.07OluapPlayera quite dum issue at that
19:50.39XhoI seriously can't think of a quote for Nalashtannylor
19:53.35Wormy_awaydamn toe cramp
20:00.58Wormy_away<b=S0∨∃n:∃i:∃j:∃k:<∀n′:<∃n″:n=(n′+n″)⊃~∃d:∃d′:(i+(n′·j))=(SSd·SSd′)>∧<∀n′:<∃n″:n=(n′+Sn″)⊃∃y:<<∃y′:(i+(n′·j))=((SSSSSSSSSS0·y)+Sy′)∧∃m:k=(((i+(n′·j))·m)+(SSSSSSSSSS0·y))>∧<∃y′:(i+(Sn′·j))=(y+Sy′)∧∃m:k=(((i+(Sn′·j))·m)+y)>>>∧<∃m:k=S(i·m)∧<∃b′:(i+(n·j))=(b+Sb′)∧∃m:k=(((i+(n·j))·m)+b)>>>>>
20:01.07Wormy_awayTypographical Number Theory
20:01.21OluapPlayernu
20:01.21Wormy_awaywhy am I subjecting myself to learning it hur
20:01.52XhoKicath - what did you say about my mother
20:02.38Wormy_awayShe got TNT'd last night
20:02.45XhoKicath - meh
20:03.00XhoCan anyone else think of other spheres Nalashtannylor might be a part of
20:03.06XhoWe got purity
20:03.08XhoProtection?
20:03.30OluapPlayerCould be
20:03.37HachimanProtection and Choice
20:03.41OluapPlayerYou should know this more than us
20:03.50OluapPlayerHachiman: y u no greet me
20:03.54Monet_Innocence?
20:03.57Hachimanhai u stoopid fuk
20:04.03OluapPlayerlil shit
20:04.16XhoRight i've given Nalashtannylor's spheres as Purity, Protection, Choice, Truth and Wrath
20:04.43XhoConsidering one of his artefacts is called Nalashtannylor's Indignation, wrath seems fit
20:04.53Hachimanneeds lagosi simulacra nao
20:05.02XhoRabbitum: Simulacra of Stew
20:05.09OluapPlayerneeds finished paeg nao
20:05.35Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Min_Lagosi#Characteristics Well I did write about their military before dinner
20:05.57XhoLong buck teeth. Fluffy tails.
20:06.01OluapPlayerI seen dat
20:06.01OluapPlayermoar
20:06.27Hachimando u even care m8
20:06.37OluapPlayerMOAR
20:06.45XhoI'm not very sure whether to reveal Nalashtannylor's origins or not in this page
20:07.02OluapPlayerDepends if you plan on revealing them in a story or not
20:07.22XhoI sort of do but it's not a massive reveal really
20:07.41XhoYou know the origins anyway so I don't know what you're on about hur
20:07.50OluapPlayerI do but the other users don't
20:11.43HachimanSo I just found out what an apadravya
20:11.48HachimanWish I didn't but oh well
20:12.14OluapPlayerWell okay
20:12.17Hachiman*apadravya is
20:12.27XhoNgh
20:16.59ImpyDroidIndia approves
20:17.23XhoApparently we do
20:17.28XhoWell
20:17.29XhoI half-do
20:18.34ImpyDroidBTW about Simulacra, I wonder what kind of entity Pheonas is/was
20:21.33ImpyDroidI intended him to be a fallen deity that has lost its original status but what was his power originally
20:21.41XhoPheonas?
20:21.45XhoOh right
20:21.56XhoWell there's a few fallen deities
20:22.04ImpyDroidThe guy Lesbonazi worships
20:22.18XhoAkhemazdrís is a fallen deity as well as Kinmorunddraver if you believe he is Nalashtannylor
20:22.29XhoThen again if he is Nalashtannylor he isn't a fallen deity really
20:23.03XhoI imagine the Simulacra aren't an absolute ring of entities and there's probably mad scrambles for power over many thousands of years
20:23.21XhoThe only two I imagine who are wholly absolute are Caligaduro and Mortium
20:24.36XhoI mean look at Zran Kar and Mortium as well; they have a gamble going so you can see there's no such thing as security being a Simulacrum
20:25.11OluapPlayerMortium - bitch cheeted on me           Zran Kar - CANT WIN AGAINST THE GUY WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING             Mortium - GET ON THE BAG YOU SHIT
20:25.23XhoCaligaduro is trapped (mostly) under the earth so I suspect there's probably a replacement Simulacra of Destruction at the moment
20:25.28OluapPlayerThat's Mortium and Zran Kar's relationship in a nutshell
20:25.57XhoSimulacrum of Destruction even
20:26.19OluapPlayerI'm not keen to the idea of more Simulacrum, if we do that we might get the same problem we had in the fictionverse. Too many godbeings
20:27.05XhoYeah
20:27.12XhoI imagine there's always 12 and no more and no less
20:27.23XhoBut it always shifts as to who is in the 12
20:27.37XhoWhen I say always shifts I mean over a period of hundreds of thousands of years
20:30.48HachimanXho: Apparently three members of Dragonforce were in a black metal band called Demoniac and they had songs such as "N***erslut", "Hatred Is Purity", "The Birth of Diabolic Blood", and "Dormant Entity"
20:31.00XhoSounds about right hur
20:31.01HachimanKeep in mind Dragonforce is the most optimistic and happiest band out there
20:31.29OluapPlayerI did everything I could on the Eastern Plains page
20:31.38Hachimanshow dis
20:31.40OluapPlayerI don't know Geography or Locations so someone else has to fill these
20:31.57OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Eastern_Plains
20:32.52XhoI was about to say it's the only Fantasy page not to mention Caligaduro on it AND THEN BAM LIGHT DRAKES
20:33.19OluapPlayerhur
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20:41.24Hachiman"New study supports a link between dementia and vitamin D deficiency."
20:41.29HachimanElders need more of the D
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20:48.56Wormy_awayhow do
20:53.47Liquid_InkDo well
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20:58.20AngrybirdsAdded a whole bunch of content to this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Laurene_Maxime Anyone want to add quotes?
20:58.40Xho"dum human" - most aliens
20:58.54Angrybirds:(
20:59.07Xho:aliens:
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20:59.27Liquid_InkKeeping in mind France has managed to worm its way into nearly every galaxy.
20:59.44HachimanBut are still human
20:59.46HachimanThus dum
20:59.55Angrybirdsracist
21:01.44Knight_AlienXD
21:05.20Monet_Angrybirds: Give me a minute to think
21:15.33Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Nalashtannylor Page finished
21:23.14OluapPlayerQuoted
21:24.48Xho“Powerful, yes. But... insolent. So, so.... insolent.” - Zran Kar
21:24.52XhoNal - go fuk urself bitch
21:24.58OluapPlayerZran Kar - non
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21:33.21GD12Hello
21:35.02DrodoEmpirehEY
21:35.08DrodoEmpire*Hey
21:35.08DrodoEmpireWhoops
21:35.34GD12hur
21:36.00Knight_Alienhello
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21:55.31Wormy_awayhi
21:55.43DrodoEmpireHey
22:05.16GD12If anyone feels like getting particularly depressed read this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:To_Kill_an_Idea
22:05.54GD12thats the story of how the Tyranny enslaved people when they were Tier 5 and didnt havel oyalty chips
22:05.57GD12*loyalty chips
22:07.52TekDroidDid the Mineral Conflict get retconned?
22:08.33GD12aye
22:08.42GD12Tyranny Drodo conflicts happened in 2760s and were short border skirmishes
22:09.51DrodoEmpire^
22:10.02TekDroidAh. I'm going to fix the redlinks on the Katar Sector page.
22:11.24TekDroidI need to update the history too. We don't even have as far as the Tasan Crisis in it. XD
22:13.55HachimanWell there's a bloody great big moth in my wood
22:14.01HachimanAnd it's flying all over the place
22:15.38WormyYou are in a wood?  Or the local wood has terrifying and amusingly mutated creatures?
22:16.53HachimanOh fuck I meant room hur
22:17.30TekDroidThere, all redlinks fixed on the Katar Sector page.
22:17.50HachimanI get reminded of you talking about how Xeelee could look like some form of moth based on the designs of their Nightfighters, which makes me wonder if they enjoy flapping around and getting in people's faces for fun like actual moths hur
22:19.28DrodoEmpirelol
22:19.42HachimanIt's back
22:19.43Hachimanhelp
22:20.05TekDroidhands Hachiman a net
22:20.16DrodoEmpireTurn on a light? Perhaps one outside? :P
22:20.19WormyI find moths beautiful
22:20.26DrodoEmpire^
22:20.30DrodoEmpireBut also annoying.
22:21.13WormyNo-one thinks a butterfly landing on them is annoying
22:22.04HachimanButterflies don't act like fucking psychopaths
22:22.14HachimanThis one is flapping all over the room and bumping into things
22:22.16HachimanIncluding me
22:22.34Monet_Well your environment is hideously alien ot it
22:22.51GD12I read that as one is happing all over the room and I wasl ike 0_0
22:22.55XhoSounds like me when I'm drunk
22:23.06XhoWell
22:23.09XhoVery very drunk
22:23.14GD12Moth Xho
22:23.25WormyMothman
22:23.31XhoMothspu
22:23.33GD12Xhoth
22:23.50Monet_Out in the wild moths use two light sources - the moon and perhaps the stars
22:24.03WormyThey thinks lights are the moon
22:24.08DrodoEmpireSo they attempt to fly out to space?
22:24.09DrodoEmpire:P
22:24.20WormyActually I have a very sad tale to tell
22:24.29DrodoEmpireHm?
22:24.42HachimanIf this involves an animal dying, I'm out
22:24.43Monet_DrodoPempire: No, they fly using the moon to navigate. Unlike a light however, the moon stays in the same relative position no matter how far you travel
22:25.04DrodoEmpireI know, I know. XD
22:25.11DrodoEmpireSorry.
22:25.29Monet_Heh, imagine trying to navigate while polaris is loving all over the night sky
22:25.37Monet_is moving*
22:25.52WormyI found this amazing log in the woods when I was camping, but I got bitten by red ants.  I didn't think it meant anything, and of course, the log got put in the fire.  Later I saw all the ants crowding to the top half of the log, and realised in horror, it was a colony.
22:26.06XhoYou told us this
22:26.07DrodoEmpireD:
22:26.17Monet_Awww...
22:26.32XhoWormy now gets nightmares of giant flaming ants
22:26.37DrodoEmpirehur
22:26.47Monet_Wormy the ant-murderer
22:26.55WormyI did rescue them and maybe half of them survived, but if the queen and grubs were dead.  Well they did seem all confused the next day, many of them half burned but still alive
22:27.17WormyI am the destroyer of worlds
22:27.23WormyI destroyed their whole workd
22:27.37WormyAnd they tried to stop mem they tried
22:28.07WormyBut I was too dumb to understand what the ants were doing
22:28.20Wormywhen they covered me in strings
22:28.25Wormy*stings
22:28.26Xhohttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/625/120/081.gif
22:28.54WormySorry Hachi, it involved potentially a whole population
22:28.54Xhohttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/624/462/134.gif
22:29.17XhoRight ded
22:30.41GD12right bbl
22:32.28DrodoEmpire...Am I the only one who sees GD's message "right bbl" after he left?
22:32.54TekDroidJust you. :P
22:33.13Hachimanolol
22:35.16DrodoEmpireHuh
22:35.25DrodoEmpireMust be an internet thing
22:37.35Wormylag maybe
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22:42.44GD12Guys is there a particular name for the weaponry mounted on vehicles?
22:43.12DrodoEmpireVehicle-Mounted weapons. :P
22:43.30GD12rite, preferably one word
22:43.40GD12becuasse i have an equipment page for my infantry stuff
22:43.56GD12so this is the analogue for vehicles
22:44.00TekDroidCannon or turret could be used depending on how it operates.
22:44.17HachimanJust use "Arsenal"
22:44.24GD12Ahh that makes sense
22:44.53GD12So Arsenal for Vehicles and Equipment for Infantry
22:44.54GD12sounds good
22:45.34TechnobliteratorOluapAway, https://twitter.com/Cyborgmatt/status/497509477160333312/photo/1 this looks sweet as fuck
22:46.01AngrybirdsWhoa. Technobliterator: could we have this enabled on our wiki?  www.maps.wikia.com/wiki/Maps_Wiki
22:46.12Technobliteratorlooks
22:46.35AngrybirdsIt would be so freaking awesome to map wiki places and events.
22:46.36Technobliteratoruh, what in particular?
22:47.05AngrybirdsThe feature: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help%3AWikia_Maps#Getting_started
22:47.18Technobliteratoron it
22:47.59GD12That looks sweet as fuck
22:48.00HachimanI wonder if Min Lagosi would combine its warships with purposes intended for fishing and such
22:48.09Angrybirds^
22:48.26Technobliteratoradded
22:48.41TechnobliteratorFeel free to mess around with it :)
22:48.57Angrybirds*hugs techno*
22:49.11GD12bearhugs techno as well
22:49.12Technobliteratorit's Special:Maps to create one I believe
22:51.38Monet_Just a thought.
22:51.44AngrybirdsI'll create one for the Milky Way. Once it's up, add your stuff to it!
22:51.53Monet_It could also be used to make maps of individual empire
22:52.40Angrybirds^
22:52.56Monet_I think the points of interest are meant to be interactive too so you can find links by finding the locations on such maps
22:53.58AngrybirdsI feel like a child with a brand new toy.
22:54.30Technobliteratorahem
22:54.31GD12I'll use that for Dominatus Mirus and various AD maps
22:54.34Technobliteratoraren't you all forgetting something?
22:54.37GD12worships techno
22:54.52Monet_Thanks so much Techno
22:55.02Technobliteratornp
22:55.04HachimanNow make me a sandwich
22:55.06Hachimanc:
22:55.08TechnobliteratorNEVA
22:55.10Technobliteratoranyways
22:55.23TechnobliteratorWe can also use this for our Stage articles
22:55.34TechnobliteratorCreating a map for each of those as a sort of guide to it
22:55.34Hachimanew mainpage
22:56.01Technobliteratorfor instance, create a map of what a tribe in the Tribal Stage would look like with links to individual pages; map of a various Cell Stage image, etc
22:56.51TechnobliteratorI can't do it since I have no Spore
22:56.56TechnobliteratorWormy, would you be interested?
22:58.14WormyIndeed, sounds good
22:58.33WormyI once wanted to make a visual family tree map for the Taxonomy Project
22:58.47WormyLike on gene inheritence wiki or whatever its called
23:02.36TechnobliteratorThat would probably be hard to do, since it'd have to update frequently, but it could work
23:04.38Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1766 Just added Paris to the map of the milky way :D
23:05.12AngrybirdsI might want to make an extremely detailed other map, though, given that we can zoom into this one...
23:12.55TechnobliteratorAlright, I must ask, how easy to use are you finding the Maps extension?
23:17.51AngrybirdsI might remake the Milky Way map entirely at this rate... It's grossly inadequate for this tool.
23:18.50Technobliteratorone question
23:18.56Technobliteratordo all of you get the "delete map" option?
23:19.23AngrybirdsI do
23:19.31Technobliteratorfuck
23:19.42Technobliteratorthen I won't enable it on another wiki
23:22.31TekDinnerThis is awesome. I'll have to play around with it.
23:23.24TekDinnerpulls out his unflattened Katar map and gets to work.
23:24.27TekDinnerWorking on a 2802 map so mime probably looks nothing lile yours now, Angrybirds. :P
23:25.07WormyI found a funny comment trail
23:25.22AngrybirdsTekDinner: You're the custodian of the Katar Map now. xD
23:25.29AngrybirdsAdd Farengeto to the main MW map?
23:25.32TechnobliteratorMaps cannot currently be restored, which sucks, but it's coming soon
23:25.44Wormyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czU-EHpClQc  by thomas the tank engine - "Dear YouTube. A video rating system would really help to separate the children's videos from the rebellious teen videos."
23:26.00TekDinnerHold on, ket me check this feature out on PC.
23:26.28Wormyclicking on thomas the tank engine channel I find an adult obsessed with thomas the tank engine
23:27.05TekDinnerFor once my tendencies to make unnecessarily large maps will be useful. XD
23:29.19TekDinnerHow do we add maps?
23:29.57Technobliterator[[Special:Maps]]
23:29.57morgothBotPyTechnobliterator meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps
23:30.00Technobliteratorcreate in the top right corner
23:32.05WormyHachiman:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbepN4dKLbU
23:33.48TekDinnerSo theoretically at least I can make a map with all the empires clickable?
23:34.06Angrybirds^
23:34.26Technobliteratoryou cam
23:34.37Technobliteratorwith links to their pages
23:35.00Technobliteratorcreate a tag category for Empires
23:36.06WormyI did that once
23:36.27WormyDifferent method though
23:36.31Angrybirds"Map is still being processed" I think I overdid it on the size just a bit.
23:36.57TekDinnerHm... I'm seriously debating scaling up the Katar map to make it bigger. :P
23:37.01TekDinnerbrb
23:38.23Technobliteratorno, you didn't
23:38.32Technobliteratorthe feature is just incredibly new
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23:44.33TekDroidAngrybirds: So I'm seriously considering doubling the Katar map size because of this feature. XD I was in the process of updating half the map anyway. :P
23:44.45TekDroid*map dimensions
23:45.47TekDroidAll that stuff I crammed into my Farengeto map was at around 15x. XD
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23:48.33GD12Hey
23:48.45TekDroidHey.
23:49.06TekDroidSo you saw the new map feature?
23:49.41AngrybirdsGD:
23:49.47Angrybirds[[Special:Maps]]
23:49.47morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps
23:50.18GD12yeah
23:50.23GD12how do you add labels?
23:51.06AngrybirdsThe pin on the right side.
23:51.11DrodoEmpireThere's a little pin icon on the bottom-right.
23:51.17TekDroidI'm basically about to redo the whole Katar map to make it bigger and give 2802 sizes for the map feature. XD
23:51.26TekDroidBecause I can.
23:51.28GD12how about borders?
23:51.45AngrybirdsThat's on the map itself.
23:51.46DrodoEmpireI don't know about that.
23:52.01GD12got it
23:52.09GD12blargh ill map later
23:52.10TekDroidI think the borders might require some kind of special image layer.
23:52.13GD12going on to windows now
23:53.58TekDroidlooks at his Farengeto map and its 88 layers. >.> This will be useful if I make it. XD
23:54.26TekDroidHonestly... I don't even know why it had that many. XD
23:56.19TekDroidEither way this map feature gave me ideas and that usually leads to me spending hours in various programs.
23:56.22TekDroidXD
23:58.45TekDroidOh damn, Thursday is the day Space Engineers gets its weekly update too. So many things to do, so little time. XD
23:59.38TechnobliteratorI...take it reaction has been pretty positive? :P

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