IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140806

00:02.01AngrybirdsThat is one of the Céleste-class' cannons.
00:02.23Monet_So that's the cannon itself, rather than the whole ship
00:02.27AngrybirdsYes.
00:02.41Monet_My bad
00:02.58AngrybirdsThis is the whole ship:
00:03.07Angrybirds[[File:Celeste-class.png]]
00:03.08morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Celeste-class.png
00:03.35Monet_I am silly
00:05.02TybusenTo be fair, though, the Klingons did invent a ship that was entirely a cannon
00:15.04GD12To all AD MIrus Campaign people heres a map of Dominatus Mirus with imoortant battle locations http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140806001236/spore/images/f/f6/DominatusMirus2794.png
00:16.23Monet_So Demogorgon Prime's parent stars are quite old?
00:16.29GD12Aye
00:16.49GD12Manticore is where the allies start out
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00:23.39GD12The white outline is the Acheron Regionwhich is the Tyranny's home subsector
00:24.43Wormyi must go to bed
00:24.46Wormybye
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00:39.45OfficerJackalHello!
00:40.50GD12sup
00:41.18GD12OJ check this out http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:DominatusMirus2794.png
00:41.37AngrybirdsI'm testing out a new way to display a ships armaments. Please tell me what you think! http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:C%C3%A9leste-class_battleship#Armament
00:41.50AngrybirdsAnd I'm trying to think of fields I could add.
00:42.57AngrybirdsGD12 Tybusen OfficerJackal Knight_Alien
00:43.08GD12wot
00:43.24Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:C%C3%A9leste-class_battleship#Armament
00:43.37GD12First of all nice pictures
00:43.45Knight_Alien'_'
00:43.49OfficerJackalAngrybirds: Looks good, but ugghhhh... More stuff I have to add to my page.
00:43.55OfficerJackalWell, when I get around to making navy pages. :/
00:43.56GD12Second of all, Combat effectiveness is a good abstraction for dat stuff
00:44.09GD12second of all, you might force me to do this for every single Dominatus naval weapon
00:44.13GD12*Third
00:44.27Angrybirdslol, the coding for that is amazing. Take a look.
00:44.35TybusenIf you want to get technical, you can add trivial things like rate of fire, average/max payload
00:45.05AngrybirdsI'm thinking of adding effective range, though remain vague.
00:45.12TybusenThose things require a bit of knowledge in ballistics and explosives though
00:45.27GD12Not really since theres no drop/windage in space
00:45.43GD12Effective range is also pretty subjective given spess combat
00:45.58TybusenIn space, effective range is infinite because of inertia
00:46.01TybusenWell
00:46.03TybusenRange, I guess
00:46.07GD12Range is
00:46.08AngrybirdsGD12 : yeah, but some weapons run out of fuel or are avoided too easily after a certain distance.
00:46.17GD12hence subjective
00:46.18TybusenI guess "effective range" is the range that you can keep control of the ballistics
00:46.41AngrybirdsIn theory, "range" is infinite. "Effective range" is where you actually expect to hit something.
00:48.04TybusenEffective range probably relies on the fuel limits of the ballistics and its acceleration rates
00:48.38TybusenA heavy missile that guzzles fuel and accelerates very slowly will have a shorter range than a light missile that is very fuel-efficient and has a high acceleration
00:49.27TybusenThat aspect of ballistic physics stays intact even in space
00:53.35AngrybirdsThe fun thing is that ground-based missile system like the Maxin 3 actually go on ships.
00:54.08AngrybirdsThe Maxin 3 isn't bad in it of itself, though. The reason as to why it has bad effectiveness on hte Céleste-class is because there aren't enough of them to adequately cover the whole ship. xD
00:58.04TybusenFrance unveils the Celeste II, which is now just a Celeste ship with every square inch of its hull covered with Maxin 3 launchers
01:01.39AngrybirdsSIKE
01:02.18AngrybirdsI am building the Orlean class' autocannons. Mah god they look epic.
01:04.43GD12hmm
01:04.48GD12mapmaking and astrographyi s actually quite fun
01:04.57TybusenIt's addicting
01:05.02Tybusenand it's cheaper than crack
01:05.22GD12just like your mom
01:05.23GD12jk
01:05.58Knight_Alienwow.
01:06.07Tybusenputs GD12 the Dominatus torture sequence from Bunsen Campaign
01:06.11Tybusen*through the
01:06.27GD12nein
01:06.29GD12NEIN
01:06.42Tybusenwho's your mom now
01:07.20GD12the torture parasite the Dominatus implanted into me apparently
01:07.22Angrybirds[[FIle:CIWS Miranda 9.png]]
01:07.22morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/FIle:CIWS_Miranda_9.png
01:07.33GD12how do you make those
01:07.40AngrybirdsSpore
01:08.01Knight_AlienXD Bunsen tourture.
01:08.24TybusenThe texture you use for the guns makes them sort of look like drawings from a blueprint
01:08.56Angrybirds^
01:08.59GD12oh really?
01:09.01GD12wow
01:09.02AngrybirdsThat's the intention.
01:09.14TybusenOh, nice :U
01:10.29AngrybirdsTybusen: is that a bad thing?
01:10.39TybusenNo, I like it
01:11.34TybusenIt's a cool effect especially with how you're intending to use the pics (for the armaments catalog)
01:13.27Angrybirds[[Fiction:Orleans-class carrier#Armament]]
01:13.28morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Orleans-class_carrier#Armament
01:13.59GD12Angrybirds : honestly that effect is really cool
01:14.09GD12that and the whole arms market thing youve started
01:14.17Angrybirds:D
01:14.38TybusenThe blueprint effect on the Maxin 3 is a lot more obvious with the larger picture for the Orleans
01:14.39AngrybirdsOH! I should add Origin
01:15.05AngrybirdsAs in, which country made it.
01:21.10AngrybirdsHow does this look? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:C%C3%A9leste-class_battleship#Armament
01:21.43TybusenThat looks good.
01:23.47AngrybirdsI wonder what Rambo phaser arrays look like.
01:26.40AngrybirdsAnd by that, I mean, how the hell do I recreate them in Spore.
01:28.39TybusenThe only image I can think of for Phaser Arrays is the one that they use for STO, and that isn't a complete image of what a phaser array looks like
01:29.08TybusenI'd imagine Rambo phasers resemble Star Trek phasers, so if you look up a blueprint of a Star Trek phaser array, I think you'll get some ideas
01:29.28TybusenThere's bound to be at least one what with all of the Star Trek physics books out there
01:34.05AngrybirdsI've got a good model!
01:36.41Angrybirds[[File:Rambo V2 Phaser Array.png
01:36.48Angrybirds[[File:Rambo V2 Phaser Array.png]]
01:36.48morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rambo_V2_Phaser_Array.png
01:37.36AngrybirdsMeh, It'll so.
01:37.38Angrybirdsdo*
01:39.04TybusenLooks kinda like a boomerang :U
01:39.10GD12or a bananna
01:40.24TybusenSilly GD12, bananas don't emit phasers
01:40.42Knight_AlienXD
01:41.09GD12hur
01:41.28AngrybirdsCan't argue with that.
01:45.00Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AFrench_Exeter-class#Armament
01:45.45AngrybirdsThe Exeter-class is such a versatile craft, it's amazing.
01:45.54AngrybirdsI'm so glad I purchased it. :D
02:04.23Knight_Alienhmm,
02:05.42GD12wot
02:06.14Knight_AlienNothing.
02:06.36GD12ahh
02:06.40GD12If anyone wants to see http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny/Dominatus_Mirus
02:07.44Knight_AlienGood.
02:08.44Knight_AlienThe Map looks better to.
02:14.07GD12aye thanks
02:15.06Knight_AlienWelcome also yesterday that was the same map right?
02:15.17GD12no
02:15.26GD12well idk what you mean
02:15.29GD12same bsae map
02:15.37GD12but did different operation
02:16.53AngrybirdsI wonder what would happen if you mounted the South African Longbow AA system on a starship. o.o
02:16.56Knight_AlienYou know the sloppy one.
02:17.18Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ACorsican_Republic/Military?file=Grand_Arc.png
02:17.43GD12both used the same base map
02:23.16AngrybirdsAnyone is free to use the armament template, though my general system for figuring out the weapons of a ship is to limit it to three, given the fact that if you add any more, it's going to reduce the effectiveness of the ship in combat and put a strain on logistics.
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02:34.11Chantal71Is anyone available for answering questions?
02:34.24Knight_AlienHello
02:34.58OfficerJackalHey!
02:35.14AngrybirdsRight here.
02:36.01Technobliteratorwhat questions do you have?
02:36.15Chantal71It's regarding the Conflicts in Plazith.
02:36.30Technobliteratoroh, sorry,  I can't help then
02:36.36AngrybirdsI might be able to.
02:36.38Technobliteratorsomeoneelse should be able to
02:36.43Technobliteratoryeah, ask angry
02:36.49Chantal71I'm planning to bring what is currently my only empire in this RP into it at some point.
02:38.07AngrybirdsAlright. And what can I help you with?
02:38.56GD12Hello!
02:39.39Chantal71I'm attempting to pinpoint an approximate location from a map of the Milky Way in my nativbe RP universe to your Plazith Rim.
02:40.50GD12The Plazith Rim and the Milky Way are the same thing.
02:43.19Chantal71I know.  I was just using the name Milky Way to represent my universe's Milky Way.
02:44.01AngrybirdsAs far as I know, private wiki universes aren't supposed to interact with the main one. That's why they're private.
02:44.57Chantal71It isn't private, really.  I'm in a community with at least 5 other members with almost that same amount in former or inactive members.
02:45.38AngrybirdsI see. And what is your fiction?
02:45.53GD12Right, I don't think crossovers are allowed without community consensus
02:45.53Chantal71The Hive Of Mirus.
02:46.16Chantal71I had communications with Ecoraptor3339 prior to joining.
02:46.39AngrybirdsRight. Ecoraptor isn't the entire community. xD
02:46.53Chantal71I am well aware.
02:47.15GD12I think you can only include another universe if its just a background detail
02:47.38GD12Technobliterator : Is it possible to nest tables inside tabbers?
02:47.47Chantal71It is a background detail for all fictions I'll be using here.
02:47.52Technobliteratorof course
02:47.56Technobliteratoryou can nest anything in them
02:48.22Chantal71Wait, it's possible that I have one fiction not from that universe.
02:48.38Chantal71At least one of them, but two at the maximum.
02:48.48GD12Technobliterator : Could you write some syntax for it pretty please?
02:48.59Technobliteratorfor tabbers or tables?
02:49.07GD12for a table inside a tabber
02:49.14Technobliterator<tabber>
02:49.19Technobliterator|-|
02:49.21TechnobliteratorThing =
02:49.32Technobliterator[insert table]
02:49.35Technobliterator|-|
02:49.37Technobliteratornew thing
02:49.40Technobliterator</tabber>
02:49.46GD12k
02:49.47GD12thanks
02:49.51Technobliteratornp
02:50.01Technobliteratoroh, you need a space before thing
02:50.10GD12space before what?
02:50.15Technobliterator"Thing="
02:50.18Chantal71I don't plan on my Plazith interactions on happening immediately.  I can afford to wait for the consent of the rest of the community.
02:50.18Technobliteratorjust needs a space before
02:50.26Technobliteratoralright i'm gonna sleep
02:50.28GD12got it
02:50.28Technobliteratornight folks
02:50.30GD12nighty
02:58.40AngrybirdsGD12 Knight_Alien OfficerJackal : You do -not- want to go up against one of these:
02:58.53Angrybirds[[Fiction:Nante-class station]]
02:58.53morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nante-class_station
02:59.19GD12Dominatus - Is that a challenge?
02:59.37AngrybirdsNante-class - Bring it on, brother.
03:00.01GD12hur
03:00.05GD12All joking aside its pretty cool
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03:00.54AngrybirdsThere are a few of those inside allied territory.
03:01.05AngrybirdsLike Q9, in Farengeto space :D
03:01.15AngrybirdsTekDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nante-class_station
03:01.19Chantal71Angrybirds, in case I leave soon, I'd like to add that any of my fictions will either not return to the original universe, will remain predominantly active in this universe once they are revealed, or will have an origin with a catalyst originating from the original universe.
03:04.05Chantal71Also, as evidence of this universe being used by an entire community, I ask that to look at my accounts under the names of chantal71 and Ex0dus_, as well as the following accounts: Squin96, honzik99, UFODima, honzik99, bjpiers_RP, raptorclaw00, hogloger, Worldofmarcus, dingerhockey.
03:04.36Chantal71Ecoraptor3339's account also has a relativelyh small number of adventures taking place at one point in the universe.
03:04.41Chantal71*relatively
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03:05.14Chantal71Plus, we have a Wiki: http://allianceoforder.wikia.com/wiki/Alliance_of_Order_Wiki
03:05.26GD12Right, I think anything goes so long as your fiction is not shuttling back and forth between universes and stays put in one
03:05.45Chantal71Just a warning: the Wiki is very vincomplete and may be unreliable at some parts.
03:05.53Chantal71*incomplete
03:06.23GD12wait
03:06.24GD12i just noticed
03:06.26GD12Angrybirds
03:06.32GD12you have 8200 edits
03:06.34Chantal71@GD12: Don't worry.  Once I introduce a fiction into active play, they will stay put.
03:06.37GD120_0
03:06.39AngrybirdsChantal171 : I see what you're saying. The point of the conflicts, however, is to play on existing rivalries between established nations within this universe, not to have a crossover with extrauniversals.
03:06.49Knight_AlienAngrybirds is Dining guys.
03:06.54Knight_AlienHe told me.
03:06.56AngrybirdsYes. I've been very busy.
03:07.04Chantal71Don't fear.  None of my fictions will have a colony in the other universe.
03:07.09AngrybirdsAnd yes, I'm supposed to be at the table, but beeps brought me back.
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03:07.49GD12eat u
03:07.55GD12get ur priorities straight
03:07.55AngrybirdsChantal171: Maybe you can recreate the old ones in this universe? The alternative is to do what you say, bring over a fragment of that fiction and get them stuck here.
03:07.59TekDroidAngrybirds: Nantes page looks great! Saw the Cassiel and Exeter ones too
03:08.06Chantal71My intention in the conflicts for the Plazith area is to take over a small region corresponding to a holy site in the original universe.
03:08.11GD12makes Angrybirds nom
03:08.17Knight_AlienXD
03:08.40Angrybirdstakes a fork and shoves it into GD12's hand.
03:09.00AngrybirdsTekDroid : You like the new template? :D
03:09.22AngrybirdsChantal171: and who occupies that space in the realverse?
03:09.39AngrybirdsWell, the primary sporewikiverse.
03:09.41Chantal71http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-500975906458 This is the most up-to-date map of my universe's Milky Way.  All of it's information is irrelevant except for the planet labeled Ex II, as I want to determine it's correspondant location in Plazith.
03:10.46Chantal71Just a note: The arm between the one Ex II is in and the one with the capital of the empire shown in pink is supposed to be the one with Earth in it, just so as to help any potential information.
03:12.02Chantal71Do you think you could determine that? That way, I'd know where to attack when the time comes.
03:12.27GD12You can put it anywhere really
03:12.39GD12Even if you're going for the scifi thing the Milky Way is moving every moment
03:12.44GD12(cosmic expansion)
03:13.16Chantal71Good point, but I'm only trying to determine an approximate location.
03:13.25AngrybirdsThis is our map: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719161311/spore/images/b/b9/Milky_Way_Political_Map.png
03:14.00Knight_AlienI think I need to add my colonies to it still.
03:14.14Chantal71Thanks.  I'll try and figure it out myself before asking you for real.
03:15.26Chantal71I just remembered why I decided to ask: To have a clear idea of the outline of each arm, so I can determine width.
03:17.02TekDroidI'm on a phone and my GA is broken so I can't help here.
03:17.18GD12i cant go on GA right now
03:17.19AngrybirdsTekDroid: The template on the page.
03:17.24GD12honestly just put it anywhere
03:17.46AngrybirdsChantal171: Sol is at the center of that yellow-white disk, if that's of any help.
03:17.49AngrybirdsPacman.
03:21.50Chantal71I knew that before asking.
03:28.56MacJackalBRB need to restart computer.
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03:32.42MacJackalBack!
03:34.17TekDroidMy sibling has a bad habit of never telling me their plans in advance.
03:34.20TekDroid-.-
03:35.20TekDroidLike telling me half an hour before I was going to leave that I was supposed to drive out of my way and drop them off
03:35.42AngrybirdsDid you consent to this? xD
03:36.28TekDroidI didn't have much of a choice.
03:36.56Angrybirds:(
03:37.20TekDroidAnd now I'm told I'm supposed to drive them in the evening when I planned to leave for there in the morning and stay all day. -.-
03:37.57AngrybirdsTell them this?
03:38.07TekDroidLazy + attitude problem
03:38.51TekDroidWe compromised. -.-
03:40.02TekDroidAlso the Jays lost the game I was at today. Xd
03:40.08TekDroid*XD
03:40.59TekDroidI think I'm going to work on the Farengeto military.
03:40.59Chantal71Don't bother, TekDroid.  Based on my studies on American propaganda, stupid people always win.
03:43.29MacJackalNeed to restart computer again, BRB.
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03:46.22MacJackalBack... Again!
03:46.40Knight_AlienWelcome
03:46.45TekDroidWhat's wrong with your computer?
03:47.07MacJackalOh no, I'm just trying to install DarkInjection on the Mac spore version.
03:47.23MacJackalSpore mac version*
03:47.30TekDroidAh.
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03:56.09Chantal71_As I'm aware that not all empires are shown on the current political map of the Milky Way, I outlined an approximate location of conquest from my fiction.
03:56.36GD12cool
03:56.41GD12post a picture of your tentative map?
03:56.49Chantal71_http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140806034606/aureus-regnum/images/e/e0/Milky_Way_Range.png I put it here.  Note that I didn't upload it on SporeWiki, because I'm not doing that yet.
03:57.16GD12i think thats solid
03:57.56Chantal71_Are you saying that there are no other empires there, or do you mean that that region is already inhabited?
03:58.29Chantal71_BRB, I'll remove the accidental _ from my username.
03:58.30TekDroidLet's see... that's next to the Co-operative.
03:58.39TekDroidJust use /nick
03:59.07GD12i mean I don't think theres anyone there as of now
03:59.21Chantal71Thanks, it worked.  I almost forgot about that.
03:59.41Chantal71Just as I originally thought you said.
04:01.11TekDroidThe sudden appearance next to it may concern them a bit. For all practical purposes the Co-operative is essentially controlled by the DCP.
04:02.21TekDroidNot trying to scare you off, just letting you know.
04:02.38Chantal71I'm aware.
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04:12.20GD12sup
04:13.23TekDroidHello
04:14.53AngrybirdsTrying to figure out what I'm going to equip my new ships with.
04:15.03GD12hur
04:15.12GD12i converted all phalanxes to tables
04:15.16GD12also converted oob to table
04:15.23GD12and categorized phalanxes by type
04:15.25GD12should be easier to read
04:16.04TekDroidAngrybirds had something code-related and got me thinking. Bad combination. XD
04:16.21AngrybirdsOdere.
04:18.29TekDroidOn the positive side you'll have a nice beautiful weapons template. XD
04:19.08GD12anyway bai
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04:30.11OfficerJackalBack... Again, again!
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04:31.08JepardiHi
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04:39.06Knight_AlienHello
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04:42.30TekDroidWho's bot is this?
04:42.33Chantal71http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140806034606/aureus-regnum/images/e/e0/Milky_Way_Range.png Any of you got an empire in this range?
04:42.41Hazbot_Haz's bot it is.
04:42.46Hazbot_Probably.
04:53.38TekDroidMy code was going great then I broke something. Xd
04:53.41TekDroid*XD
05:04.44TekDroidAngrybirds: {{Clanden Weapons}} Ta-da!
05:04.45morgothBotPyTekDroid meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Clanden_Weapons
05:06.55TekDroidFeel free to rename it.
05:07.58AngrybirdsVery very cool! How does it work?
05:12.15TekDroidRefresh page for list of options. Combat and Cost Effectiveness are automatically colour-coded for you, case-sensitive. The type option currently has two options, "missile" (200px wide) and "turret" (150px wide), with anything else setting it to 150px. Everything else should be self-explanatory. ;)
05:13.12AngrybirdsThis is amazing :D
05:13.21TekDroidOnce I figured out switch statements it was surprisingly easy. ;)
05:15.02TekDroidEasily used for any loadout.
05:15.29TekDroidAnd really easy to mod in anything else. :)
05:17.16TekDroidHopefully nothing in the code will make Techno scream. :P
05:19.28Angrybirds<PROTECTED>
05:23.30TekDroid>.>
05:24.03TekDroidIt's an uncategorized template. She will eventually.
05:27.41TekDroidHave you heard about this Emdrive discovery?
05:28.47TekDroidIt produces only a small amount of thrust but uses no propellant. O.o
05:30.22TekDroidIf it's accurate it would violate conservation of momentum. O.O
05:30.42AngrybirdsOdere. o.o
05:33.08TekDroidYou can see why people are skeptical.
05:35.34TekDroidIn fact their control unit (specifically designed not to work) recorded some thrust in the experiment.
05:40.48AngrybirdsBut not enough to invalidate the whole experiment, I presume?
05:42.10TekDroidMaybe. Maybe not. There'll probably be a lot of investigation soon since this only game out about 2 or 3 days ago.
05:44.32AngrybirdsI'll give your template a test with my new starships in a second. ;)
05:48.02TekDroidAlright. ;)
05:48.32TekDroidI'll elaborate the documentation in the morning
05:48.53AngrybirdsWaait.
05:49.10Angrybirds[[File:CIWS Miranda 10.png]]
05:49.11morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:CIWS_Miranda_10.png
05:49.17TekDroidNot leaving yet. :P
05:49.44TekDroidWhat about it?
05:49.51AngrybirdsTrue anti-missile turret on the Adrianne-class, a variant of the Exeter-class meant for hyperspatial combat.
05:50.35TekDroidInteresting. I suspect we'll see weapons like that a lot.
05:51.36AngrybirdsYeah, and it fires hypermatter, so it works in hyperspace.
05:53.27Angrybirds[[File:Garand I.png]]
05:53.27morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Garand_I.png
05:55.37AngrybirdsThat is a bit of an oddball, taking advantage of the properties of hypermatter. In hyperspace, it acts like a badly designed, slower firing, higher caliber CIWS turret to supplement the Miranda 10. In realspace, hypermatter is explosive, so it acts as an anti-ship gun.
05:58.17TekDroidInteresting.
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06:34.27GD12Yo
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07:28.40AngrybirdsGD12 :
07:28.55Angrybirds[[Fiction:Archange-class battlestar]]
07:28.56morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Archange-class_battlestar
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07:40.47AngrybirdsLiquid_Ink : I'd like your thoughts.
07:41.59Liquid_InkCool
07:42.09Liquid_InkI like how detailed you've gone with its history
07:44.43AngrybirdsDanke, though what would you classify as history?
07:46.01Liquid_InkA poor term for 'lore' that I used without thinking
07:47.32AngrybirdsGot it.
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08:09.32ImpyDroidI just saw a group of Canadian tourists
08:09.44ImpyDroidThey apologised to me for something I didn't even understand
08:18.23Liquid_InkOh?
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08:25.21GhelaeHello.
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10:52.09Monet_Hello
10:52.12ImpyDroidHi
10:53.02ImpyDroidI finally understood why Panda said I must be part Canadian today
10:53.24Liquid_InkWhy?
10:53.30Monet_Eh?
10:53.39ImpyDroidI met a group of Canadian tourists while eating out in a fast food restaurant
10:53.56ImpyDroidI was standing in the queue and asked them if they're standing in the queue
10:54.17ImpyDroidOne of them started apologising to me incessantly, and I didn't even understand why
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11:36.16Wormyhi
11:37.04Monet_Hello
11:38.07GhelHello.
12:06.44Wormyrather sick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPlSP6V8x5g
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12:23.49HachimanHai
12:24.02Monet_Hi
12:24.12OluapPlayerhai
12:24.40HachimanSo I started work on Min Lagosi
12:24.58HachimanIf an of you guys got ideas for encounters they could have had, fire away
12:25.15OluapPlayerI got nothing more than we already planned
12:28.11Monet_Hachiman: Perhaps they experienced the odd Draonoggr raid?
12:29.28HachimanPerhaps yeah
12:31.48Monet_Hmm...what's the likelihood that there could be one Min Lagosi Clan that have a draonoggr lord as a patron?
12:33.31HachimanNot really likely in the slightest considering that the Lagosi worship nature/Yakshrapala
12:37.14Monet_True. I was thinking some sort of deviant group. I know that none of the other Lagosi clans would like said clan.
12:38.03HachimanWell you have quite a few rogue Lagosi roaming about mainland Koldenwelt
12:38.10Monet_PLus, depending on the Drao, the patronage could either be agreed or forceful.
12:42.40Monet_Hmm, perhaps a few rogue Lagosi found service under a few Draonoggr?
12:42.55Monet_Lagosi Dragonsworn...probably not very pretty
12:44.53HachimanJah probably not
12:46.37Monet_Although...Lagosi are attuned to the Source. COmbine that with a bit of Drao alchemy and you could end up with some potent warriors
12:47.52HachimanNow that's a terrifying thought
12:49.22Monet_A Lagosi Dragonsworn general would be terrifying since that (or becoming a veteren skirmisher) is the point where dragonsworn usually get wings.
12:50.13Monet_Most generals also gain a foot or two in height.
12:50.21Monet_Depends on the species
12:54.24Monet_So let's see...you'd probably end up with a 7ft 280lb bat-winged bunny-snouted lizard with huge ears covered in thick scales and wearing gilded Dronoggr scale armour.
12:55.22HachimanThat sounds ugly as fuck hur
12:55.31Monet_Who can bound over buildings, throw a human several metres and have the source affinity to bathe a city block in flame in moments.
12:59.06Monet_By this information A lagosi would be highly prized whe nsworn under a Draonoggr patron.
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13:01.29HachimanAye, even normal Lagosi are considered elite warriors, and Lagosi mercs are often some of the best around
13:01.33TekDroidHello
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13:07.13Hachimanhai
13:07.51OluapPlayerdangit where's Imp at
13:08.24HachimanAt movies with his waifu I imagine
13:08.26WormyI jusat found a crazy person https://www.youtube.com/user/amazingpetgossip
13:09.05OluapPlayerhow dare him
13:13.05TekDroidWormy: Have you heard about this "emdrive" thing?
13:14.17WormyYeah
13:14.26WormyI read about the Chinese trying to create one
13:15.01TekDroidNASA did it too a few days ago, though with much lower recorded output.
13:15.13WormyThough its psuedoscience isn't it?
13:15.40WormyI know NASA is trying out this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_vacuum_plasma_thruster
13:16.02GhelHello.
13:16.25TekDroidIt violates conservation of momentum, claiming some kind of quantum thing. It'd be cool but I'm skeptical obviously.
13:16.27TekDroidHello
13:17.53TekDroidWormy: That's what they supposedly built the other day. I think their control moved as well though.
13:18.07Monet_if this stuff works it does show how potentially advanced our society is
13:18.25GhelIt wasn't quite a control, but it was a device modified so that it wasn't supposed to work.
13:18.38WormyCould I see the article?
13:19.13TekDroidLet me link one...
13:20.22GhelMost likely, it's just an experimental flaw, but since the idea behind the emdrive is wrong in the first place (even without a thorough analysis, it's clear that violating conservation of momentum lies outside of the known laws of physics that the emdrive is supposed to obey), there's no reason to think that a slightly modified design wouldn't also work anyway (if there were a real effect).
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13:23.15WormyThe findings probably need more tests
13:23.26TekDroidProbably just some measurement error. We are talking mN, after all.
13:23.55GhelEnvironmental interactions with the equipment seems most plausible.
13:24.04TekDroidYeah.
13:25.43WormyOh well, we'll have to wait and see if the Q thruster survives experimental testing
13:27.24Jepardihttp://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aAVRE00_460s.jpg
13:30.04Hachimanngh I feel in a mood for cowboys today
13:33.26Wormygives Hachiman a cowboy hat
13:38.08Wormyhttp://phys.org/news/2014-08-physicists-quantum-animal-pigeon.html
13:40.39WormyOh yes, Ghel, you might like this book http://www.lightnessofbeingbook.com/
13:41.19Wormyits all about mass
13:46.58GhelI've just had a little look through the website.
13:48.49WormyIt suggests spacetime acts as a superconductor
13:50.00Jepardihttp://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aLQRreA_460s.jpg
13:51.57Hachimanolol
13:53.32WormyI wonder if in the far future we will have fields of knowledge so deep or different they will not be physics or mathematics
13:56.02GhelI'd say that human conceptions of physics and mathematics would expand to accomodate new fields of knowledge that (at least at first) seem utterly different, much like they have done for hundreds or thousands of years already.
13:56.26GhelOf course, we of the present might not recognise them as such.
13:57.54WormyThere are a few gaps like an explanation of quale and conscious understand that seem to be outside physics
13:58.06GhelMuch like how many areas of mathematics that have developed since the 17th century bear little resemblance to numbers or geometry, and modern physics is utterly unlike basic classical mechanics except for that both describe the universe.
13:58.29Wormymaybe one day they will but it will require huge breadth to cross probably
13:58.55GhelI think the concept of qualia really summarises all of what people find to be non-physical about conscious experience.
14:00.35WormyI think it may well be represented in physical description one day.  Perhaps in a day when experiences could be telepathically shared
14:02.09WormyThe origin of creativity is probably where the AI debate really circles around
14:03.22WormyI'm not sure if we can make a true AI without it, or it will forever be cruching the numbers we put into them
14:05.43GhelCreativity is an important part, but it's one of many important parts; I don't think it's particularly special.
14:06.09TekDroidI agree.
14:06.32HachimanMakes me wonder about artifical intelligence analogues in the Fantasyverse
14:06.44HachimanLike golems or homunculi
14:07.39WormyI think its important to understanding, and learning.
14:08.18WormyThough its something human didn't just evolve, we a\quired it and don't always use it
14:08.41GhelI've always imagined the process of making fantasy AI-analogs to be some magical process creating a soul and binding it to a suitable artificial body.
14:10.20GhelAlthough perhaps in the past there were the mage equivalent of computer programmers who spent several decades or centuries working out the exact method of manipulating the Source to create artificial souls.
14:12.08WormySome mathematicians are seeking an objective description of beauty
14:12.43WormyWhich is another abstract thing like mathematics
14:13.06GhelThen it becomes like some advanced piece of engineering: the information is out there for anyone to use, but you don't see the world being swarmed by golems because it requires lots of time/effort/resources/intelligence to actually understand it and then put it into practice.
14:13.07WormyHopefully one day there will be an explanation linking the physical and abstract worlds together
14:13.27GhelAnd back to reality and Wormy's conversation for me now. :P
14:13.45GhelAbstraction is itself an abstract concept.
14:14.56WormyFor objective abstractions to be instantiated, I imagine there must be some criteria one must evolve genetically or memetically
14:15.16GhelTo use my "matter manifestations" classification, beauty would be one of those emergent communal-scale phenomena that influence the actions of computation-capable systems.
14:16.51GhelIn that case, beauty would perhaps best be defined, not as a property of an object (e.g. a work of art) by itself, but as a relationship or some activity between the object and the brain of someone perceiving it.
14:16.59WormySo I guess when one argues for the attraction between bees and flowers, both were evolving to some criteria that looks more attractive in their symbiosis - one which creative minds could also appreciate - creativity I guess, helps the human mind think outside its minimum
14:17.19Wormyyes
14:18.43WormyThere must be some knowledge both in the genes of flowers and bees to create criteria for beauty
14:18.51Wormyrestated
14:19.42Wormyhuman art is a lot more complex, but then one must remember, the complexity gap between brains is probably greater than flowers and bees
14:19.54Monet_Makes sense, yeah. Perhaps encouraged by bees preferring that they considered prettier flowers
14:20.17Monet_what they considered prettier flowers, rather.
14:21.38GhelFor flowers/bees, I'd say that comes down to bee instincts. If such concepts could be extrapolated up to human brains, that would place aesthetics firmly into neuroscience (and make it similarly limited by the limitations of our knowledge within that field).
14:22.09GhelIncluding our lack of knowledge of the nature of qualia that we experience.
14:24.25Monet_I did some research into the infamous Stanford Prison Experiment that stated that any human given authority will almost-inevitably abuse it. Turns out for the most part the experiment was a sham. Later studies weren't as extreme as prof. Zimbardo's experiment. Theoretically, the test was done in a way that gave prisoners and guards freedom to do what they wanted. If so, its disturbing how many guards resorted ot abusing prisoners.
14:26.12Monet_In most reports there's little indication of any guards generally treating prisoners fairly or as people.
14:26.25Monet_There were cases of "tough but fair"
14:26.52Monet_But no guards acting amicably towards prisoners, while according to the test, most of the prisoners were generally submissive
14:27.33WormyIt would seem an objective beauty is of a distinct kind - there are many things that are accidentally beautiful, like a landscape.  But with bees/flowers/humans, its a regularity evolved from the genomes of flowers, one which causes humans to feel aesthetic taste
14:29.43GhelAs with all things in human brains, the mystery is likely to be in its complexity rather than in any inherent "abstractness".
14:30.53WormyCertain complex phenomena however seem to be instantiating (imperfectly perhaps) abstract rules though
14:31.48GhelAren't rules by nature abstract?
14:32.10WormyAs are physical laws
14:33.35GhelYes; it's because our brains use abstractions to understand reality.
14:34.25GhelWhich, if you consider our brains as using computation, and that computation is itself abstract, is either something that makes perfect sense or something that's incredibly circular depending on how you think about it. :P
14:34.45WormyIndeed, by acting upon complex-emergent/computation (non-computational?) rules
14:36.58WormyIt does sound circular - though one may regard abstract truths as simply self-truths (provable but not necessarily in our universe or our part of it), with some actually existing physically
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14:37.18WormyBut then one must ask, what makes the physical world physical - our location in it?
14:37.37WormyTo observe something we may have abstract concepts of
14:39.18WormyFor example, it was long thought crystals with five-fold symmetry are impossible, they indeed are in the matter we immediately experience, but then it was found quasicrystals could exhibit it
14:39.33GhelNow you seem to be asking questions along the lines of "what is reality?"
14:40.02WormyIts all connected to me
14:41.23Monet_The perceivable world is a deeply-conencted web.
14:41.53Monet_Many things appear ot have a relation or a connection.
14:42.40WormyWell, as our theories advance they cross over and work together
14:44.09WormySo back to our original conversation - yes, there should be new fields of knowledge that would be even more interconnected than our present ideas
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14:44.43Wormyperhaps rthings even currently outside the scope of science will be incorporated
14:44.43OfficerJackalHello!
14:44.47GhelHello.
14:44.48Wormyhi
14:45.05Monet_In a sense there is some kind of grand unified theory, not just for physics.
14:45.32WormyIt probably wouldn't reach a close either
14:45.45WormyA single equation nonsense
14:46.27Monet_What do scientists do if everything that  we could possibly know is known?
14:46.46WormyThat conception is far too intrumentalist/reductionist for my liking hur
14:46.58GhelMonet_: Find a new job. :P
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14:47.22GhelHello.
14:47.33Monet_Hello
14:47.41WormyHi
14:48.52GhelAlthough having a theory of everything wouldn't even spell the end of theoretical physics, let alone the whole of science.
14:49.11WormyEven if say, the omegapoint happens and intelligence controls all matter, it will probably still have an infinite space of abstractions to think about
14:49.13WormyIndeed
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14:51.27GhelHello.
14:53.04WormyA) Theories would probably only progress into deeper or more precise ones B) many scientists would still do physics for the pleasure of it, many don't justify their careers with grandiose claims of helping humanity C) it'd still be applied everywhere
14:53.06HachimanHai Imp
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14:54.17GhelWell, to respond to your comment of "too instrumentalist/reductionist", that's arguably the idea behind a theory of everything: it doesn't directly tell you everything that is possible, it just sets the boundaries.
14:54.22GhelHello.
14:55.33GhelFor example: chemistry, materials science, and condensed matter physics all have their "theory of everything" in the form of the Schrodinger equation, but what that does is help them discover and understand things, not finish off the entire fields.
14:56.06OluapPlayerdumba
14:56.08Wormyyeah, true
14:56.15GhelAnd if you don't think such a thing is deserving of the title "theory of everything", that's a semantic issue. :P
14:57.10WormyBut I get the impression from some physicists that they want predict and explain everything to one final bedrock, probably mathematics and that everything can be reduced to it
14:58.37GhelIf any physicist claims that they can predict the rise and fall of the Akkadian Empire from the fundamental action of string theory, you shouldn't pay attention to them.
14:58.39WormyBut that is extremely ignorant of all the emergent descriptions, it doesn't explain mystery between maths and physics, and probably would never reach an emd because we can never predict something to a point of absoluteness
14:59.56GhelAs far as I'm concerned, a theory of everything would be of most value in telling us the limits: Can we build warp drives? Could such-and-such new particles exist? etc.
15:00.13Wormyyes, that would be a better toe
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15:01.10GhelThen when we can derive some simpler theory - quantum field theory, or general relativity - we use them to predict new things, not the more complicated super-theory.
15:01.49OluapPlayerImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Merkan
15:02.56ImperiosOluapPlayer: >The Merkan fiction was created mainly for fun and should not be taken seriously
15:03.08Imperiosfucks off and lets OluapPlayer be
15:03.34OluapPlayerI must ask you to not do that
15:05.25WormyFabuolous detgails and colours on those models, Oluap.  They remind me of deep sea fish for some reason
15:06.04ImperiosYep, their models are definitely cool
15:06.48HachimanI'll agree to that, their models are colourful and I like that
15:13.09Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10458522_272074916323205_2726280185441229628_n.jpg
15:14.36Wormythats very dismissive of the fact transexuals can be called women
15:15.07WormyI met who was born without a womb, so where is the cut off I'd ask that person
15:15.15Wormy*I met a woman
15:15.48Imperiosheh
15:16.01WormyMany of these extremists feminazis are actually bullies who bully other women
15:16.38Cuttlefish_^
15:17.59WormyI hasten to state of course, I'm all for gender equality and all that though I can't stand some of these nasty people calling themselves feminists to play the victim or seek attention through social justice warring
15:28.53Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Min_Lagosi#History Did some early history, will be working on this throughout the day
15:32.30OluapPlayer>shameful activities
15:32.34OluapPlayerMunki -  shamefur dispray
15:33.14ImpyDroidhue
15:34.09OluapPlayerI'm liking it so far
15:34.10OluapPlayermoar
15:34.37ImperiosDitto, it's nice
15:34.38Imperios"Aru Raghosae had refused to assist the liberated Munki realm in repelling the dark forces that desired their devourment, its national pride overwhelming its need for truces and temporary alliances"
15:34.44Imperios>its national pride
15:35.11ImperiosLagosi - RABBIT PRIDE PARADE
15:35.42Cuttlefish_Those rabbits are bit too anime for my tastes.
15:35.54HachimanHow'd you mean?
15:36.42Cuttlefish_I keep seeing Japanese culture there
15:37.00HachimanWell yeah, they're based on Japan
15:37.08Monet_Japan is a large influence.
15:39.06HachimanI don't see how it's *anime*; quite a bit of stuff on there is borrowed from actual Japanese history and culture
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15:40.06ImperiosThey're just vaguely Oriental
15:40.27Monet_"made use of the rich and valuable materials, including ore" Does this mean the Min'Lagosi mightl not be as conservative with iron as Japanese society was?
15:41.06OluapPlayerThe war between the Lagosi and Munki began when they started provoking each other with banana and carrot jokes
15:41.33HachimanI imagine they used ore to make armour and weapons as they did get wrecked by Cali and the Munki sometime before settling on the Isles
15:41.41HachimanPeasants aren't likely to get much ore to use
15:42.25HachimanAlthough the Kame Isles are really quite resourceful
15:42.36Monet_Not quite what I was indicating.
15:43.20Monet_My understanding of why Japan was fond of alloying and folding iron was iron was scares in the Japanese island chain
15:43.28Monet_scarce*
15:43.43Monet_So they had to be economical
15:44.01HachimanAh right, in that case I imagine Min Lagosi is a lot less conservative because of the Kame Isle's plentiful amounts of iron and such
15:44.43HachimanPartially one of the reasons they got uppity with the Kamehebi; they didn't want to share even though there was plenty to go around
15:44.57Cuttlefish_I just took the link to the Kamehebi. I expected the trivia to say they were based of of kappas, but then I saw the words Koopa Troopa and Mario.
15:46.27Hachimanbrb
15:49.05Cuttlefish_Monet: I just now remembered. I'm kinda nuking the canon for the Shellious. They haven't been in much fiction, and I was wondering if I could get input.
15:50.19Monet_How can I help?
15:52.02Cuttlefish_I don't think either of us made it too clear what stuff is what. I strongly implied that Shellis and Igriga (over in Bunsen) may be the same planet, and I think the Bunsen rift would be a better explanation to the Shellious surviving the Annihilation
15:53.35Cuttlefish_I think second bunsen war would fit for the event that required the shellious to ask the draconis to help rebuild. CaptainTybunsen still hasn't started the redo though. the first one isn't even done
15:53.47Monet_You once put the Shellis system on a map of the the Andromeda Territories.
15:58.09OluapPlayerImperios: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140806121908/spore/images/a/a8/Mortium.png I also updated this
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15:58.47Cuttlefish_I know, but I don't see it of any currently used maps. I'm not happy with what I wrote. How much do you think is truly set in stone now? I'm still undecided on whether or not Shellis has the AI thing, or is the Kaiyo are from the moons or another system
15:59.56Monet_Yeah it is a bit of a mess coem to think of it...
16:02.01Cuttlefish_I decided enough was enough and that I was going to work with an iron canon, but now it's too messed up for me to do that without assistance. Like how it might the draconis or other people's stuff
16:05.28Monet_"how it might affect the dragonis or other peopels stuff" you mean?
16:05.32Monet_draconis*
16:05.50Cuttlefish_affect, damn I didn't notice that
16:06.27ImperiosOluapPlayer: Dem wings
16:06.42OluapPlayerskelly wings
16:06.54OluapPlayerI tried giving him angel wings but I couldn't make them look good
16:07.11Cuttlefish_The TIAF and draconis are big factions and I don't want to make any decision that changes the stories you, Machine, and Tybunsen have wrote
16:08.05Monet_Yeah. I can see your point
16:08.17Wormy_awayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV16KNKWvck
16:09.08Monet_I can help with solidifying ideas, perhaps offering alternatives ,but in the end its stil lyour vision.
16:09.50Wormy_awayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsSpK0fpYXg
16:11.04Cuttlefish_Lets take this to a message thing, I don't want to flood the irc with this
16:14.06Wormy_awaykiss me http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070216004844/startrek/images/c/c2/Antedeans.jpg
16:15.37ImperiosHachiman: BTW, speaking of the whole "weeaboo" thing
16:16.18ImperiosI wonder if the reason weeaboo-ish cultures are found all over Koldenwelt is because of some, eh, proto-Oriental precursor culture meddling (presumably Wormy's dragons)
16:18.23OluapPlayerOr maybe it's because he felt like making a japanese-inspired race
16:20.07Monet_Well, one of the largest empires in history was the Rome-inspired Oric Elf Imperium. Yet we have the Wukon Impreium in the west, and the Kame Isles and Kamehabi in the east.
16:20.17Monet_Wukong*
16:25.10HachimanLagosi descend from the West
16:25.36HachimanThey migrated to the East
16:25.41HachimanWell
16:25.43Monet_I know.
16:25.49Monet_But right now they're in the East
16:26.34OluapPlayerEh
16:26.39OluapPlayerKame Isles are southwest
16:26.43OluapPlayerNot east
16:27.06HachimanYeah they're Southwest
16:27.13HachimanSo even more West than the Wukong hur
16:27.15ImperiosNo, I mean, that'd be interesting
16:27.32HachimanIt would but I feel we're kinda stacked on precursors already
16:27.39ImperiosWell
16:27.45ImperiosWe already have an Oriental precursor race, just saying
16:28.20HachimanAdamantines?
16:28.21OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Mortium I finished reworking this page
16:28.28OluapPlayerWhere's Xho when you want him
16:30.28ImperiosWormy's Lunsincth
16:30.31Hachimanrite
16:30.37HachimanOluapPlayer: Nice, I like the updates
16:30.42HachimanI'll leave quotes in a bit
16:31.45Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10497080_304119763082059_4326809878264728492_o.png
16:32.21OluapPlayerI feel bad for laughing
16:32.40ImperiosDere qutoed
16:32.59OluapPlayerI bet its a dum "i dun dai" Praetinnath quote
16:33.45OluapPlayeryes I was correct
16:34.43ImperiosWell what else can Praet say
16:34.49OluapPlayerNothing
16:38.38HachimanQuoted
16:40.27OluapPlayerThat Hachi quote is a good one
16:40.31HachimanHachi must be the only guy who isn't an Aithrena that actually worries "for" death rather than "about" death hur
16:40.35OluapPlayerIt's what I was hoping to see
16:41.04OluapPlayerMortium actually loves his job and wouldn't trade it for anything else
16:41.15OluapPlayerThen again I don't think there's a way for anyone to know that
16:41.17Monet_Yeah but most Koldenweltians don't know that
16:41.23Monet_Exactly
16:41.28OluapPlayerninji'd
16:41.58Monet_So most quotes on death will relate To death because that's all msot people know
16:42.05HachimanWell who wouldn't love being a skeleton
16:42.10OluapPlayerhur
16:42.13ImperiosThere, two non-dum quotes
16:42.27OluapPlayerSepulchrus is the happiest man in the universe
16:42.32OluapPlayerHe's not a skeleton, he's several skeletons
16:42.56HachimanAye, exra happy
16:44.24OluapPlayerWhat I was hoping more to see was how different characters/races see death
16:45.08HachimanKanna thinks death isn't doing a good enough job if there's a bunch of immortals running around, while Hachi tries to ignore and deny the thought of death
16:45.36HachimanWhich is why Hachi incapacitates rather than kills
16:45.44OluapPlayer“Mortality and entropy are a loving pair of twins.”        Mortium - im not ur brother u cat bitch
16:45.56Hachiman>a loving pair of twins
16:45.59Hachimandats boobs
16:46.09Imperioshur
16:46.11OluapPlayerMortium - im not tits either
16:46.35Monet_Once you give an aspect of nature a face, people try to put blame on it. You can easily and logically say a person or an animal is evil or a douche, but you can't say an entityless thing is such without sounding crazy.
16:46.38HachimanSepulchrus - I DUNNO BOUT TITS BUT I <3 BONERS
16:47.04OluapPlayerPeople saying Mortium was weak and inefficient, and people going "dur can't die cus immortal" on his relations is exactly the reason I decided to buff him
16:47.11OluapPlayercause that's annoying and jarring
16:47.36Monet_God gets the same treatment don't worry heh.
16:47.50HachimanRealistically, Kanna wants death to hurry up and get him
16:47.58OluapPlayerMortium - wait in line
16:48.02HachimanKanna - non
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16:50.34JepardiHi
16:52.22ImperiosOluapPlayer: So you'd like more quotes from mundane peopel?
16:52.29OluapPlayerYes
16:52.57HachimanMost Lagosi in general treat death as a natural course of things and don't fear it, they're quite accepting of the fact that one day they're bound to die
16:52.59ImperiosThere , have three normal quotes
16:53.00Monet_Don't most mundane people see Death as a thing that happens rather than an entity?
16:53.18HachimanIn fact most Lagosi shun the thought of immortality
16:53.23OluapPlayerI imagine knowledge of the entity is common
16:54.14Monet_Maybe in legend.
16:54.31HachimanImpyDroid: Think you could make a flag for Min Lagosi?
16:54.47Imperiosxcould try
16:55.55OluapPlayer"Let the Reaper take my body."        Mortium - u sure bout dat im not a girl
16:56.19ImperiosFunny thing is
16:56.26ImperiosIn Russian tradition, the Grim Reaper is always female
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16:56.34OluapPlayerMortium - dangit
16:56.34OluapPlayerspu
16:56.37Xhou
16:56.40ImperiosComrade Javina
16:56.43ImperiosHi Xho
16:56.46OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Mortium I reworked Mortium a lot so chek
16:56.53HachimanIf Mortium can take different forms, perhaps at least one of those is a woman hur
16:57.16OluapPlayerThe idea is that every race has their own version of him
16:57.28OluapPlayerThe "skeleton in a cloak" form is the one Deiwos see
16:57.37ImperiosThis made me think
16:57.51ImperiosWhat if in some civilisations, Mortium is percieved as female?
16:57.59ImperiosIncluding Alhassal hur
16:58.07OluapPlayerHipster
16:58.09OluapPlayerIt's possible
16:58.12OluapPlayerBut I don't see why
16:58.21HachimanFor Aithrena I imagine that Mortium is treated as either having no gender or is both
16:58.39Monet_I swear there's abrahamic depition of the guy who takes the souls of the dead being an angel.
16:58.41OluapPlayerMortium - omg mom ITS NOT A PHASE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND
16:58.57OluapPlayerAs I said I tried giving Mortium angelic wings
16:59.05OluapPlayerBut they looked llike crap so I traded them for skeleton ones
16:59.18XhoCaligaduro - i just c u as an emo bunny rabbit
16:59.23Monet_A graceful angel which over time got replaced by the "skeleton in a robe" Grim Reaper
16:59.34ImperiosOluapPlayer: Hipster? My culture percieves Death as a girl u
16:59.37ImperiosWell
16:59.42ImperiosNot exactly *my* culture but still
16:59.42XhoMonet_: That would be Samael
16:59.43OluapPlayerhur
16:59.44HachimanYou know I wonder if Mortium is the kind of guy who gives "the talk" to people who have died, like he tries comforting them on the way to the Underworld
17:00.01OluapPlayerMortium - LOL IDIOT COULD'VE DUCKED THAT SWORD. GET IN THE BAG.
17:00.11HachimanMortium - youdied.png
17:00.16OluapPlayerhttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/21283482/images/1351181605370.jpg reminder
17:00.25ImperiosI wonder
17:00.55ImperiosDo different Simulacra, Colossi and other divinities have the ability to protect their worshippers in the afterlife?
17:00.57Monet_Xho: And I imagine the Grim Reaper image came from say the time of the black death?
17:00.59XhoWell it's a good rework
17:01.05XhoMonet_: Not a clue
17:01.23Monet_The sythe could symbolise how peop li nthat time were dying so quickly and in such great numbers
17:01.26XhoImperios: I imagine so if Mortium doesn't get to them first
17:01.28OluapPlayerZran Kar doesn't give a damn for his worshippers so probably not
17:01.40OluapPlayernever thought about it with the others
17:01.53Monet_Basically Samael was quite literally harvesting souls li wheat heh
17:02.18HachimanCrux doesn't give a crap because he can't hur
17:02.18ImperiosHachiman: Is Axis Powers Hetalia a good anime?
17:02.25HachimanImperios: I don't think so
17:02.27XhoCaligaduro wouldn't
17:02.31XhoBecause...Caligaduro
17:02.40OluapPlayer"UP THE FUCK SHUT. BAG."
17:02.42XhoAsv-Aldz and Nalashtannylor would though
17:02.43Monet_Imperios: Tybusen seems to like it
17:02.44OluapPlayerThat picture gets me everytime
17:02.46ImperiosI figured out that I gonna like it because I like SotW and Polanball
17:03.05Hachimanew polandball
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17:03.14ImperiosWhat's wrong with Polandball?
17:03.20ImperiosSome of the comics about it are quite smart
17:03.24HachimanThat meme is of nyet quality
17:03.45Monet_The comics might be smart ,but they look like no care was paid for visual quality
17:03.51ImperiosThe art style I don't like but the concept is smart
17:04.12Monet_It looks like something an eight year old would draw.
17:04.16OluapPlayerHachiman: Hachi dies -> "YOU AND YOUR AWFUL DICK GET IN THE BAG"
17:04.24Monet_Or am I being generous?
17:04.39HachimanOluapPlayer: olol
17:04.47Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10245577_904959789520560_3014572659465489764_n.jpg?oh=9b8860b622a05ef2e299b10ac376c983&oe=544C5FDA I prefer stuff like this
17:04.52OluapPlayerAt least one race needs to see Mortium as carrying a bag instead ofa  scythe
17:05.10XhoPelagrios - I see him as a giant stomach pump
17:05.20OluapPlayerMortium - RUM IS OVER. BAG.
17:05.20Monet_Hachiman: Also I think the proper term is "blyat quality"
17:05.29XhoPelagrios - BAG IS OVER. RUM.
17:05.53ImperiosMonet_: the proper term is "khuyovoye quality" if you want to use Russian profanity
17:06.06Imperios"dickish quality"
17:06.11Monet_Oh wait blyat is fuck
17:06.21OluapPlayerIt's funny because we refers to manatees are water cows
17:06.25ImperiosMetaphorically
17:06.26OluapPlayer*refer
17:06.29ImperiosLiterally it is "slut"
17:06.29OluapPlayer*as
17:06.41HachimanManatees are <3
17:06.45HachimanAlmost as <3 as dolphins
17:07.13ImperiosThe Empire of Man's perception of Mortium: Giant Hitler with a gas chamber on his back that shouts FEGELEIN as he searches for the dead
17:07.42OluapPlayerI'd make a joke but it'd be too insensitive
17:07.42Cuttlefish_Hachiman: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m51hqoqVe01rxqd36o1_1280.jpg
17:07.56HachimanOluapPlayer: I love insensitive humour, tell dis
17:08.31Monet_Maybe one could describe polandball like a cheap prostitute: Displeasing to the eye, leaves a bitter aftertaste but the service is still the act you bought them for and still potentially satisfying.
17:08.50OluapPlayerHow specific
17:09.10ImperiosMonet_: Yuo are of correct
17:09.18OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/v/1407340014840.jpg the elements of nature are wild and dangerous
17:09.49HachimanOluapPlayer: BEARS OF NATURE
17:10.07Monet_Someone should make a band called Earth Bear and Fire.
17:10.16OluapPlayerBear magic creates honey in your fingertips
17:10.24HachimanHoneymancy
17:10.29OluapPlayerBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEmancy
17:10.34Monet_That's bees you dum
17:10.44OluapPlayerBears love honey tho
17:11.06Monet_Everyone loves honey though
17:11.19HachimanNeeds more bear races in Fantasyverse
17:11.23Cuttlefish_They want nothing to do with honey, they vomit it and feed it to larvae
17:11.24Monet_Honey is nature's golden syrup
17:11.25HachimanI'd make one but too many pages
17:11.33OluapPlayerI must be the only person I know who dislikes honey
17:11.34ImperiosI once thought of making a bear-like race based on Russia
17:11.37OluapPlayerI find it yuck-tastic
17:11.42Hachimanhao dis
17:11.48ImperiosRuled by a Putin expy hur
17:12.19XhoTsar Balalaika I of the Vodka Bear Respublik
17:12.21XhoI said it
17:12.22Monet_I'd associate bears with invunerability magic.
17:12.25OluapPlayerolol
17:12.50OluapPlayerI usually associate golems with magic immunity
17:13.05OluapPlayerWarcraft's too blame for that
17:13.09Monet_No I mean as in "didn't hurt me" magic
17:13.16HachimanSo shield magic
17:13.20OluapPlayerAh
17:13.47OluapPlayer"ATTACK ME ALL YOU WANT. I CAN BEAR IT."
17:13.52Monet_Because once a bear goes on a rampage it can take a shotgun blast to the face and still keep running
17:14.01Hachiman:im fucking invincibear:
17:14.09OluapPlayerolol
17:14.26XhoI would make a bear race but I can't make bears in Spore
17:14.31XhoIt's hard to make bears
17:14.32Monet_Also unlike bison, bears can rear on their hind legs and crush anything unlucky enough to ve underneath them
17:14.35OluapPlayerIt is
17:14.51OluapPlayerIt took me like 4 tries to make the Ransio at least not horrible looking
17:15.03HachimanI remember that Romans used to pit bears and lions against one another. The lions would usually end up with their skulls crushed in moments
17:15.25Monet_Indeed.
17:15.37OluapPlayerLion - dis is unberable
17:15.40Monet_Lions are impressive but they have fragile skulls
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17:15.53DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
17:15.55OluapPlayerLions actually descend from dwarves
17:16.08Hachimanhue
17:16.30TekDroidHey DrodoEmpire
17:16.39OluapPlayerI remember reading that in old Dorf Fort versions, you could potentially kill dwarves by poking their heads
17:16.46OluapPlayerbecause their skulls were that fragile
17:16.46Hachimanohgod what
17:19.13HachimanDid you know that your stomach is always filled with warm vomit and that one seventh of your life will be spent on a Tuesday
17:19.37OluapPlayerGo edit Min Lagosi
17:20.19Monet_Hachiman: That's obvious
17:20.57Monet_I suppose for the squeamish it may be disgusting that most of that compositino is what's absorbed into our bloodstream
17:21.30HachimanThe only time "incorrectly" isn't spelled incorrectly is when it's spelled "incorrectly"
17:21.54Cuttlefish_You're on buzzfeed aren't you
17:21.59HachimanMaybe
17:23.04Cuttlefish_The person who edited Hitler's speeches was a literal grammer nazi
17:23.20Hachiman*grammar Nazi
17:24.36Cuttlefish_*spelling nazi
17:25.36ImperiosGRAMMATIK MACHT FREI HEIL SPELLCHECK
17:26.30HachimanA thought came to mind; would the Munki be so closely related to deiwos that they could breed with elves/humans?
17:26.49OluapPlayerStop thinking about man-monkey sex and go edit Min Lagosi
17:26.59Hachimanbutbut man-moneky sex
17:27.02Hachiman*monkey
17:27.07HachimanAnd I'm editing right now hur
17:28.00Monet_And thus the Wukong Imperium becomes the source of AIDS in Koldenwelt
17:28.36Cuttlefish_I think all the times in real life with the whole humanzee experiment should be enough to prove that that isn't a good idea.
17:29.10ImperiosMonet_: Wait... you just implied the Wukong Imperium is Koldenwelt's Africa?
17:29.51HachimanIt's Domain now, not Imperium hur
17:30.01Cuttlefish_Does Koldenwelt have an africa like place? it seems like everything south of the equator is water
17:30.17XhoTropical Lands I guess
17:30.21HachimanGnolls are supposed to be African analogues but they don't have a real place of their own
17:30.40ImperiosSo that makes them African-Americans
17:31.03ImperiosXho: My part of Tropical Lands is pure MUHRICA
17:31.11HachimanMeanwhile the Munki are intended to be Chinese analogues
17:31.19ImperiosAngry Chinese monkeys
17:31.27ImperiosFor some reason this makes me giggle a bit
17:31.57HachimanNo Imp they will not be stereotypes hur
17:32.05ImperiosI know hur
17:32.37Cuttlefish_what does hur mean?
17:32.48ImperiosI already have a walking, talking ethnic stereotype hur
17:32.54Imperiosaka Lekren
17:34.03OluapPlayerIt means people enjoy copying my mannerisms too  much
17:34.03Monet_Cuttlefish: A noise the Engineer makes, somehow it means lol now
17:34.34OluapPlayerI see it more as "heh"
17:34.39Monet_Which is wierd because I swore Engie makde that noise to express frustration.
17:34.49OluapPlayerHe does
17:35.07Monet_So how'd it go from "gah" to "lol"?
17:35.17OluapPlayerI don't know, it just did and it stuck
17:35.28Monet_Fair enough
17:35.45OluapPlayeri'd prefer if it stopped but it's too late for that now
17:36.13Monet_Well there was always pointing out you didnt' like it
17:36.20Monet_Worked for the t-word
17:36.26HachimanT-word?
17:36.27Monet_..sorta
17:36.34Cuttlefish_what t-word?
17:36.49Monet_Yknow...THE T-word.
17:36.55OluapPlayertset you mean
17:37.03HachimanFuck
17:37.21Monet_This is why I referred to it as the t-word
17:37.41OluapPlayerThe fact people couldn't recognize it at first is a good indication
17:37.41HachimanI felt like I just had Vietnam War flashbacks
17:37.42Monet_It's mere utterence reuins everyone's day
17:37.52Cuttlefish_Yeah that;s  worse than the infobot
17:37.54Monet_ruins*
17:38.28OluapPlayerPeople going "hur" doesn't exactly ruin my day because I know people don't do it out of malice
17:38.37OluapPlayerBut it still bothers me a bit because I don't like being mimicked
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17:39.56Hachiman;-;
17:40.08HachimanHai GD
17:40.15Monet_Hi
17:40.27Cuttlefish_Hello
17:40.31Monet_OluapPLayer: It was your thing,  no one liks having their thing mimicked
17:40.35OluapPlayerPeople tend to mimic my mannerisms in whatever online communities I visit. i know if that's a good or bad thing
17:40.36GD12Hello
17:40.39ImperiosMonet: That's called "language drift"
17:40.43GD12whats haooened?
17:41.07ImperiosLike how "gay" meant to mean "merrily" and "make love" meant to mean "be in a romantic relationship"
17:41.09OluapPlayerI was just commented that I don't actually enjoy the fact everyone stole my "hur"
17:41.30OluapPlayercommenting*
17:41.57Monet_That and the combination of being confused as to why Engie's hur meant lol is why I stick to saying heh now.
17:42.01Imperios*merry
17:42.03Imperiosheh
17:42.29OluapPlayerActually I just remembered one thing which might be the reason
17:42.32OluapPlayerThe Loron laugh by going "hurhurhur"
17:43.01Monet_I cal lthat the "The dumb idiot laugh"
17:43.18OluapPlayerWell that's what they are hur
17:44.08OluapPlayerThere's one advantage of people using it though, that way you can see whenever they're being seriously or joking
17:44.28OluapPlayerserious*
17:44.33OluapPlayerGah my spelling lately
17:45.08Monet_Welcome to my world.
17:45.27OluapPlayerI'm losing my grasp on english the more time passes
17:45.48GD12i actually think "hur" is invaluable in preventing arguments
17:46.06Cuttlefish_I think it's annoying
17:46.07GD12Because oftentimes sarcasm interpreted as seriousness (which is easy to do over the internet) can be bad
17:46.24OluapPlayerWell that's a damn shame
17:46.29HachimanOluapPlayer: lets fix dat by shovin english dong down ur throat
17:46.40OluapPlayerHachiman: im not interested in finish paeg dong
17:46.47OluapPlayer*more
17:46.58OluapPlayerI did it again
17:47.00OluapPlayercries
17:47.15Monet_pats Oluap on the back
17:47.23HachimanGiven how much info I have to write about the Lagosi, finishing the Min Lagosi page will definitely take more than a day
17:47.25Monet_then hands Oluap a newspeak dictionary
17:47.30Monet_This is for just in case
17:47.34HachimanBut a majority of it should be done by the end of today
17:47.54OluapPlayerAs long as it's done and you don't slack I'm okay with it hur
17:48.01Monet_It is a doubleplus good book.
17:48.09OluapPlayeru want me to reed
17:48.12OluapPlayeru tryin to kill me
17:48.29Monet_Newspeak doesn't have big words so its not hard ot read
17:48.42HachimanPerhaps we should start taking up Brazillian
17:48.51GD12*Portugese
17:48.54Hachimanfuk off
17:49.07OluapPlayerI had to read a book for college last semester, it was like 300 pages long. I read 50 and gave up
17:49.45Monet_Now I'm curious at the book's name
17:50.06Monet_If it's to Kill a Mockingbird, I sympathise
17:50.30OluapPlayerIt was a book about how you have to innovate to be successful as a company and you shouldn't believe in destiny, you have to carve your own path to success
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17:50.41The_RandomnessHello everyone
17:50.41OluapPlayerSee the subject is not that bad, but the book was literally the same thing over and over again
17:50.43OluapPlayerrandum
17:50.56The_RandomnessWhich book is this?
17:51.02Monet_SOudns lik the book was trying to drag out its message
17:51.05OluapPlayerA book I had to read last semester but didn't
17:51.13Monet_300 pages long
17:51.36HachimanGD12: Você está porra
17:51.48GD12what does that mean?
17:51.52OluapPlayerGibberish
17:51.57The_RandomnessDid you just swear at somebody?
17:52.02Hachimanmehbeh
17:52.10OluapPlayerHe did but he did it all wrong
17:52.14The_RandomnessDid you call him a female dog?
17:52.35Monet_One of the first things you will often learn when learning a new language: the swaers
17:52.50OluapPlayerHachi's sentence translates into: "You are into shit"
17:52.53Cuttlefish_Random, It's ok to bitch here
17:52.54Monet_ie, iirc "zut alors" means "damn it all"
17:52.56The_Randomnessoh, that
17:53.17Monet_"damn it all" in French*
17:53.20The_RandomnessI was hoping that my knowledge of Spanish would help here
17:53.24The_RandomnessI guess not
17:53.26The_Randomness:(
17:53.30OluapPlayerThis is brazilian portuguese, not spanish
17:53.35The_RandomnessI understand
17:53.36OluapPlayerSpanish is the devil's language
17:53.49Cuttlefish_Excuse me?
17:54.05Monet_OluapPLayer: I completely understand the logic behind that.
17:54.21OluapPlayerIt's arguably more similar to portuguese than english, yet I can understand english perfectly but spanish is impossible to me
17:54.56Monet_I think Spanish see Portuguese as some hilbilly language or something.
17:55.04OluapPlayerRude hur
17:55.07The_Randomnesslol
17:55.24Monet_Well Spain and Portugal are longtime rivals.
17:55.56Monet_I'm not saying Potuguese IS a hillbilly language, but Spaniards probably percieve it as such.
17:56.27ImperiosRussians percieve Ukrainian as a hillbilly language
17:56.29OluapPlayerIt probably is really
17:56.35OluapPlayerBrazil is a hillbilly country
17:56.38ImperiosBecause of pronouncation
17:56.42Imperiosits pronouncation
17:56.46Cuttlefish_I thouhg Ukranians spoke russian
17:57.00ImperiosDepends on the part of Ukraine
17:57.06Monet_But you get them back by perceiving Spanish - which most non-Iberians/Latinos percieve as one of the big five sexy languages - as the devil's tongue
17:57.35ImperiosWestern Ukrainians speak mostly Ukrainian; Central Ukrainians speak both equally while East Ukrainians are pretty much Russian though they might know Ukrainian because they learn it in school
17:58.03OluapPlayerI dun find it sexy
17:58.08ImperiosAnd Crimeans BELONG TO US
17:58.12OluapPlayerits ugly and makes me sad and angry
17:58.15The_RandomnessOh gosh
17:58.16Cuttlefish_what part of russia are in?
17:58.28ImperiosSaint-Petersburg
17:58.30ImperiosNorthwestern Russia
17:58.46Monet_The closest Englsih comes to this kind of rivalry I think is British English and American English.
17:58.54ImperiosThough my mother's from Ural, my grandparents are from Kazakhstan and my great-grandparents are from the Far East
17:59.14Monet_I cringe a little whenever I have to say "cookie"
17:59.25Cuttlefish_what would you like to say?
17:59.29Monet_To mean "biscuit"
17:59.30The_RandomnessBiscuit probably
17:59.35OluapPlayerCookie Clicker
17:59.42Monet_I dunk biscuits in my tea, not bloody cookies
17:59.58OluapPlayerFunny because there's a couple of british biscuits in Cookie Clicker
17:59.59The_RandomnessYes, those *are* biscuits
18:00.09Cuttlefish_I though cookies and biscuits were totally different things
18:00.19Wormy_awayI think that cookies and biscuits mean different things
18:00.23The_Randomness^
18:00.24XhoHachiman: I've managed to figure out how Meshuggah gets the sound from Dancers' solo through my amp
18:00.30TekDroid~test
18:00.30infoboti guess test is not funny
18:00.30ImperiosSaint-Petersburgians and Moscovites have some similar disagreements on words
18:01.16Wormy_awaythis to me is a cookie http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Pepperidge-Farm-Nantucket-Cookie.jpg  http://postatreat.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/mm_cookie.jpg
18:01.18Cuttlefish_Tek: DONT
18:01.19Monet_I can't explain why but I prefer "boot" to "trunk" and "bonnet" to "hood"
18:01.36HachimanXho: wat sorcery is dis
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18:01.49XhoHachiman: I do have the same amp as them so that would kinda help hur
18:02.04XhoI do have a guitar tone setting that sounds 100% like Meshuggah's guitar
18:02.08Wormy_awayTo me these will always be biscuits http://www.thecommentator.com/system/articles/inner_pictures/000/002/037/commentary_thumb/biscuits.jpg?1352807472  http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/6/27/1309196775213/A-blue-biscuit-tin-with-a-008.jpg
18:02.14ImperiosWe Russians can't agree how to call bread, for example
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18:02.29HachimanImperios: Jew food
18:02.30ImperiosSaint-Petersburgians call it "bulka" while Moscovites call it "baton"
18:03.02Wormy_awaySame here.  In the South of England cobs are rolls, in the North, rolls are cobs.
18:03.07Monet_Although the biggest argument between Brit English and US English is the complete US English disregard for "ou" or replacing Ss (like civilisation or ant -isation" with Zs.
18:03.18ImperiosThis hurts my eyes a little, personally
18:03.35ImperiosBTW a Canadian tourists in Teremok said I sound British today
18:03.49ImperiosShe does not realise how much of a compliment for me that was
18:03.52Imperios*tourist
18:03.57Wormy_awaylol
18:03.59OluapPlayerWeirdo
18:04.15Wormy_awayMonet On it like a car bonnet
18:04.38Cuttlefish__My mom grew up in London and I live in America, so I have this odd mix of US and UK English when I speak.
18:04.45ImperiosHachiman: Funny thing is, the word "Jew" (well, the word related to it that sounds very similar) is actually super-offensive in Russian
18:04.54ImperiosLike, N-word level offensive
18:04.59HachimanGeezush
18:05.05Wormy_awayN-word?
18:05.33ImperiosWe call Jews "Hebrews" instead
18:05.40ImperiosEvreyi
18:05.48HachimanWormy_away: The forbidden N-word that white people aren't allowed to say hur
18:05.57Imperios> white people
18:06.01ImperiosDoes that mean I can say it?
18:06.05Wormy_awayoh right ofc
18:06.12HachimanImperios: Absolutely not
18:06.18Imperioshur
18:06.24Monet_I love how some British rhyming slang words are used in more casual terms than what they really mean. I bet many Americans (if they do) would use "berk" a lot less if they knew what it -really- meant.
18:06.37ImperiosWell technically, THAT word is actually used quite liberally by Russia
18:06.39HachimanPeople still use "berk"?
18:06.45XhoMy dad does
18:06.47The_RandomnessI never heard of that word until now
18:06.50Wormy_awaymy mum does
18:06.51ImperiosI remember getting a heavy tan and then going to school when I was a teen
18:06.51XhoThen again he's in his mid 50's
18:06.58ImperiosGuess what I was called
18:07.04Wormy_awayShe called me a berk a few times lol
18:07.05HachimanImperios: oh deer
18:07.14Monet_Berk was immensely popularised by Only Fools and Horses
18:07.21HachimanWhenever I hear "berk" all I can think of is Only Fools and Horses
18:07.23OluapPlayerhttps://31.media.tumblr.com/a98b68f2eaea571ac0717924e1a51ea8/tumblr_n9rfj7RmeN1qjnhqgo1_500.jpg
18:07.25Cuttlefish__what does berk mean?
18:07.36Monet_Cuttlefish_: The c-word
18:07.49Imperios*deep tan
18:07.56HachimanOluapPlayer: So happy they died smiling
18:07.59Monet_It's shorthand for "Berkley hunt"
18:08.23Cuttlefish__nobody here has a problem with the c-word
18:08.30ImperiosHachiman OluapPlayer: http://th02.deviantart.net/fs51/PRE/f/2009/340/7/9/Heavy_tan_redesign_by_Matsu_sensei.png is big siski
18:08.37Monet_Ah.
18:08.54Monet_I read somewhere that the c-word was a very very nasty word in the US
18:09.36OluapPlayerImperios: Eh
18:09.48OluapPlayerI don't like it hur
18:10.11OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/T0kIElt.png
18:10.12Cuttlefish__I live in New England, most american stuff the world sees is from California and Texas.
18:10.35The_RandomnessThe two extremes
18:10.39Monet_New York as well.
18:10.44OluapPlayerImperios: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10561681_10152555122671840_2403696203328256375_n.jpg
18:10.51Cuttlefish__I hate New York
18:11.08ImperiosOluapPlayer: My God
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18:11.17Imperios*My Kim Il-Sung
18:11.17Monet_Cuttlefish__: How come?
18:11.21Imperiosmy bad
18:11.29OluapPlayerGrorious Reader Mode
18:11.37Cuttlefish__I found it to bee very polluted, and everyone was beyond rude.
18:12.01Cuttlefish__The city anyway, the country area is fine
18:12.08HachimanI bet you all shower naked
18:12.08HachimanPerverts
18:12.10ImperiosHachiman: http://www.jweekly.com/images/uploads/blog_art/0609/jewish_dolphins_TITLE.jpg
18:12.57OluapPlayerPut some clothes on before talking about others
18:13.10Hachiman;-;
18:13.16Monet_When I visited i recall it being noisy, congested, was a bit gloomy since I went in winter but I met a couple of people who were really cheerful when they learned I was form England.
18:14.14OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/Obo2H6C.png
18:14.20Cuttlefish__They all want to move there, because it's terrible here, and they don't know the bad side of what happens over there.
18:15.02Cuttlefish__They're all "America sucks, I wanna move to Europe"
18:15.15Cuttlefish__I don't blame them
18:15.22The_Randomness>_>
18:16.12XhoI like New York
18:16.13Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t1.0-9/10574281_1446546385625799_2347980485728476269_n.jpg
18:16.22XhoExcept for the absolutely crazy people there
18:16.28Monet_I heard somethign about New Yorkers being aggessive and pretentious
18:16.56Cuttlefish__They aren't all bad, but enough of them are for it to be a problem.
18:17.21Monet_The subway trains were a bit clumsy for my liking.
18:17.30XhoNew York Subway at night
18:17.31Xho#nope
18:17.35XhoJust no
18:18.14Cuttlefish__Is the london underground any better?
18:18.24Monet_I've been on the London underground plenty of times so I'm something of a veteren with subway trains...except the tains under Manhattan had some *really* abrutp braking and starting mechanisms.
18:18.45Monet_I can still recall how aggressive the start/stop shunting was
18:19.32Monet_Some of the newer London Underground lines you can barely hear the "clickety-clack clickety-clack" of the rails.
18:21.00Monet_Also I think everything looks more...organic in the London Underground
18:21.11Cuttlefish__Organic?
18:21.11Monet_Tunnels are very rounded, traisn are quite aerodynamic
18:21.40Monet_http://www.cityroadonline.co.uk/assets/london-underground-station.jpg this is your "classic" tube station
18:23.30Cuttlefish__I don't really like America in general, but at least it's better than Colombia.
18:24.11XhoBetter than anywhere in the Middle East currently as well
18:24.13Monet_However, go down liens like the Jubilee Line https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8303/7850153174_b1d1a4bc97_z.jpg and its like something out of near-future sci fi
18:24.58Cuttlefish__I was expecting a concrete tunnel
18:25.17XhoJubilee line is pretty cool architecturally
18:25.22Monet_http://www.e-architect.co.uk/images/jpgs/london/london_building_aw230607_2895.jpg hellooo Canary Wharf
18:26.26XhoLeicester Square's underground station is just godawful
18:26.51XhoCovent Garden's is probably worse actually
18:27.02ImperiosHeh
18:27.15ImperiosOur underground looks like if it was built by Romans
18:27.30ImperiosOne of the stations even has a goddamn fresco on it
18:27.43Cuttlefish__So from your point of view how does UK compare to the US. To my knowledge it's slightly less shitty.
18:28.02Cuttlefish__And there's less fast food.
18:29.00XhoThere's a lower population of nutjobs in the UK that's for sure
18:30.34Monet_Well, based on my trip to Manhattan: All our cars are smaller (even the sedans I saw in NCY looked big), the cities are less noisy (I hear less sirens and honking), subway stations feel more efficient, our TV presenters are calmer. Erm...
18:30.36Imperioshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Sportivnaya_metro_image.JPG Meanwhile our underground looks like... this
18:30.47Imperioshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Sportivnaya_metro_image.JPG/1280px-Sportivnaya_metro_image.JPG
18:30.49Hachimanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-1Vl16wNHI AllTime10s managed to get Megan Fox to do theri TMNT facts
18:30.51ImperiosI mean this
18:31.07Tek0516From my experience I've found Americans to be more rude compared to Canadians.
18:31.43Cuttlefish__My mom says the french are rude
18:31.57XhoThe British are definitely rude
18:32.00XhoBecause
18:32.02XhoWe're the British
18:32.11The_RandomnessXho: u wot m8
18:32.12OluapPlayergud going dikhead
18:32.24Tek0516Cuttlefish__: Shh... Angrybirds is French. :P
18:32.32XhoThe_Randomness: shat ya math ya cheeky cunt i'll slap u up
18:32.36Monet_In my first trip to the subway, I recall this one dude I acidentally had my rucksack in his personal space in the train and he rather rudely pushed it away before giving me a nasty look when I wanted to find out what was pushign my bag.
18:32.38XhoAnd that's English English for you
18:32.40The_RandomnessXho: fite me m9
18:32.45Cuttlefish__That actually explains allot about why space france
18:32.47OluapPlayermnine
18:33.42The_RandomnessCuttlefish__: Space France emulates IRL France too well >_>
18:34.14Monet_I was idly standing in a crowded subway train, I felt something push against my bag, I looked behind me and saw this man give me a nasty look lik I just acted like a dick to him. And I remember seeong one woman in South Manhattan who made a compelte spectacle about how a t-shirt she bought fro ma stall no longer fit her.
18:34.40The_RandomnessCome to the midwest, we're nice here
18:34.44The_Randomnessc:
18:34.54Tek0516That's 'Murica for you.
18:34.59Cuttlefish__Liar
18:35.08AngrybirdsThe_Randomness : How is that? ^.^
18:35.18The_Randomnessle France is le best amirite?
18:35.24The_Randomness:3
18:35.25Monet_I've been to London...five or six times, once spending a week down there and never once did I hear someone shouting.
18:35.46AngrybirdsHow does it emulate real France? (I'm curious)
18:35.50Monet_Seeing this woman make  a scene happened in like my first full day being in New York
18:36.07The_RandomnessI don't know if I really want to say why
18:36.29AngrybirdsSay it.
18:36.58XhoI think the question's already been answered here
18:37.33The_RandomnessI think I'll hold my tongue
18:37.51Tek0516I think you're making it worse.
18:38.50XhoOluapPlayer: "Smily Nastyface"
18:38.59OluapPlayerSlimy you fool
18:39.07AngrybirdsYeah. xD At this point, what I think you're going to say is far worse than what you'll actually say.
18:39.14XhoThat was a copy and paste from your page
18:39.18Xhospell it rite u fool
18:39.23OluapPlayernon
18:39.28The_RandomnessHow bad could it possibly be? :3
18:39.45AngrybirdsWhile we're at it: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Archange-class_battlestar new ship
18:39.56XhoI was about to say, you must be the ultimate dickhead to have a name like that
18:40.09Cuttlefish__I'm having difficulty getting whether or not randomness is being rude or not
18:40.12Tek0516OluapPlayer: It definitely said smily on the pafe
18:40.29OluapPlayerFuck
18:40.29OluapPlayerIt's supposed to be Slimy
18:41.06OluapPlayerI'm excused because I made that entire page very reluctantly
18:41.07XhoThe_Randomness: I think you've just unlocked the highest stage of language in English; "Birtish"
18:41.14XhoBritish even
18:41.18XhoHelps if I could spell
18:41.55Tek0516slaps Xho with his Canadian English
18:42.07XhoWell
18:42.12XhoI'll use the old quote
18:42.17XhoThe language was named after the English
18:42.24XhoIt doesn't get more absolute than that
18:42.41Tek0516throws an American English dictionary at Xho for the heck of it
18:42.50XhoNO
18:43.11Cuttlefish__How is canadian english different from the other two?
18:43.17XhoThey use 'eh' a lot
18:43.23Tek0516slaps Xho
18:43.26Xhoeh
18:43.28Xhoy u do dis
18:43.30OluapPlayerhur
18:43.35Cuttlefish__don't hut eh
18:43.37The_Randomnessdat stereotype tho
18:43.38Cuttlefish__hit
18:43.41Cuttlefish__dammit
18:43.50XhoThe_Randomness: We're British, we stereotype by the dozens
18:44.07Tek0516That stereotype doesn't even use eh right
18:44.08XhoEspecially against Americans and Canadians
18:44.14XhoYou use aboot though
18:44.23Tek0516No we don't.
18:44.28DrodoEmpireXho: Not really.
18:44.35XhoWell our Canadian stereotype does
18:44.41Tek0516Pretty much only americans use aboot.
18:44.42Cuttlefish__I live in America and even I stereotype Americans.
18:45.01DrodoEmpireEvery once and a while I might slip with something vaguely similar to the Canadian stereotype, but that's all.
18:45.02Cuttlefish__aboot?
18:45.03XhoOr you could just be supremely British and hate everyone who lives on this earth
18:45.07XhoAboot = "about"
18:45.15Cuttlefish__who says that?
18:45.23XhoCanadians according to our stereotype
18:45.23DrodoEmpireApparently Canadians.
18:45.29Tek0516Americans mocking Canada.
18:45.39XhoWe don't have any negative stereotypes of Canadians though
18:45.48Monet_Xho: Are you sure you're nto confusing British with Scottish?
18:45.55Monet_Or Welsh
18:45.55XhoMonet_: Yeah like Glaswegian
18:46.11Cuttlefish__To me it just sounds like you end sentences that aren't questions as if they were questions
18:46.26OluapPlayerI associate aboot more to Scotland than Canada
18:46.28OluapPlayercause Demoman
18:46.57XhoOur Canadian stereotype is pale-skinned people who like bacon, say 'aboot' and 'eh' as well as people who can't get angry whatsoever and have exceptionally clean cities
18:46.59The_RandomnessI basically live in mini-Canada
18:47.08HachimanI feel kinda sick writing about Min Lagosi history because, like Japan, they've done some nasty as fuck atrocities
18:47.18OluapPlayer"Stop being so perfect!"
18:47.25The_Randomnessi.e. Minnesota
18:47.27XhoHachiman: Tentacle rape is not an atrocity                     Unless you're on about something else
18:47.28OluapPlayerHachiman: im hyped
18:47.37ImperiosXho: Rape of Nanking is
18:47.42Tek0516Other than the aboot it's not too far off. :P
18:47.55XhoI don't really know anything about Japan's history after the feudal era
18:48.00Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Archange-class_battlestar Can I haz thoughts?
18:48.08OluapPlayerThey disprayed shamefurry all day everyday
18:48.15The_RandomnessAngrybirds: ooh shiny
18:48.18Monet_Angrybirds: I can look later
18:48.20XhoAngrybirds: That is actually quite a nice ship
18:48.23Monet_Writing rigth now
18:48.50Cuttlefish__I continued learning about Japan it up until the 50s, They did some fucked up stuff during WWII.
18:49.07AngrybirdsDanke. :D I hope we'll see quite a bit of it during the GigaConflicts.
18:49.22DrodoEmpireI personally like reading about the feudal era and the Boshin War.
18:49.23XhoI've said before and I'll say it again, my extent of history goes between well before 3,000 BC to about 500 AD
18:49.29XhoAnything afterwards is blurry to me
18:49.36Wormy_awayPeople say "aboot" in Yorkshire
18:50.17XhoWormy_away: Let's face it, southerners think anyone further north of Winchester bastardizes and butchers the English language
18:50.34Tek0516DrodoEmpire: So basically the eras for Shogun 2? :P
18:50.34Wormy_awayDamn southnerners
18:50.35Cuttlefish__I hear it allot in Welsh accents.
18:50.51OluapPlayerNgh i'm bored I need something to work on
18:50.54DrodoEmpireTek: That's what originally got me interested.
18:50.55Wormy_awayPeople had funny accents in Dorset
18:51.00XhoOluapPlayer: Vampire War
18:51.01DrodoEmpireBut I've since read further.
18:51.08OluapPlayerXho: Can't do
18:51.16Wormy_awayActually there was a lot of posh people in Dorset, I was very out of place
18:51.21XhoAs a southerner I'm inclined to believe that anywhere further north of London is empty, cold, wet and full of commoners
18:51.29Wormy_awayin the cream tea cafe
18:51.42Cuttlefish__Have you ever heard a Boston accent
18:51.45Wormy_awayYou are abour right
18:51.49XhoThat being said the furthest north I've been in England is York
18:52.03Wormy_awayLancashire is like posh north though
18:52.14Xholuncushur
18:52.29Monet_I live near Oxford so I'm roughly in the midlands
18:52.42Monet_Although I'm i nthe part of the midlands which may as well be the South
18:54.12Wormy_awayI'm in the area where Midlands ends and North begins
18:54.51Wormy_awayPubs outnumber churches in my town, the cow fields give way to sheep, and mills give way to coal mines
18:55.16XhoSounds exactly like the north hur
18:55.32Wormy_awayThere is three pubs on the ends of my street even
18:56.03XhoDefinitely the north
18:56.15XhoHm what to do
18:56.16Monet_The tow nI grew up in is similar
18:56.17XhoAh I know what to do
18:57.18OluapPlayerPelagrios stoof
18:57.48XhoYes actually
18:58.00Cuttlefish__Are pubs common over there, there isn't a single one in my city
18:58.11OluapPlayerdrunk hivemind
18:58.57XhoVery common
18:59.02Monet_Cutlefish__: If a town does not have at least one local pub, its at best a cluster of houses
18:59.04Wormy_awayXho:  Wanna see how thick the smoke is in my town lol http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/202890/image_update_0e13b7044b929c67_1368205242_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg
18:59.19XhoSilly grey borth
18:59.20Xhonorth
18:59.24XhoTypos everywhere today
18:59.39Cuttlefish__Despite all the drunk american stereotypes it seems like you people get drunk way more
18:59.58Wormy_awayyes
19:00.01Monet_England has something of a thing about binge drinking
19:00.15Xhohttp://avidcruiser.avidtravelmediai.netdna-cdn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Cunard-Southampton.jpg Come to Southampton instead hur
19:00.28XhoYou can see my sister's house there
19:00.39Wormy_awayA poll from foreign p[eople said we drink too much http://rt.com/uk/176416-uk-ignorant-binge-drinking/
19:01.06XhoI used to definitely
19:01.08Monet_Then again one can do all kinds of things in pubs - buy dinner, drink with friends, watch football/cricket, take part in pub quizzess, perform karaoke.
19:01.14XhoI've cut down on the drinking a lot
19:01.21Monet_Or engage in deep, deep philosophical discusions
19:01.42XhoThat's the fun thing about being drunk though: you tend to get deep discussions that you normally don't get
19:02.42Cuttlefish__Like when you stay up past midnight and everything gets really deep
19:02.56Wormy_awayindeed
19:03.03Wormy_awayI go through stages
19:03.07XhoSame hur
19:03.19Wormy_awayEventually you think you are omnipotent
19:03.34DrodoEmpirehttp://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/469812062798763548/6680431F7B641635D2448970D4866C9B002A107C/ - wat
19:03.38XhoI get very talktative...then I become very quiet and irritable again
19:03.53XhoAve Satana indeed
19:04.25Cuttlefish__You know that feeling where you're alone in a room and then you just understand, like you understand everything then forget it in the next two minutes.
19:04.40Wormy_awayIf I drink beer and only beer, I'll relax. then I'll get more social, then I'll get into deep philosophy, then I find things I wouldn't normally find hilarious, then I start getting dumb
19:05.47XhoI've never become dumb when I was drunk
19:05.51Wormy_awayCuttle:  I get that as I go to sleep, I have a profound wordless insight or visualisation, then I struggle to remember or think about it moments later
19:05.53Cuttlefish__I've seen enough drunk people that I never want to drink even one drop of beer. Plus it smells bad.
19:06.03XhoI tend to keep mostly normal when I drink, just more vocal
19:06.10HachimanXho: Remember that time you thought you were gonna die when you drank so much
19:06.12Monet_I think beer and lager has a very hearty smell to it
19:06.12Wormy_awayOnce I jumped 15 feet in the air just for the hell of it
19:06.19XhoHachiman: That was a moment of weakness
19:06.35XhoI was alright for most of it
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19:06.41XhoUntil about three in the morning
19:06.48XhoThen I was ill for two days straight
19:06.51CezannicusHi
19:06.52Wormy_awayAlso I feel I get different effects from different drinks
19:06.56Wormy_awayhi
19:06.58Monet_Hi
19:07.00Monet_I wonder...if New York/LA/San Francisco London and Tokyo are where absolutely everything take place for their repsective nations' film and TV industries, does that mean that 90% of Di TV and film takes place in Minos'Drakon and Araveene?
19:07.11Wormy_awayCider makes me more argumentative
19:07.11XhoMonet_: Probably
19:07.14The_RandomnessProbably
19:07.25OluapPlayerserves u right
19:07.28CezannicusXho: That mustn't have felt good in any way
19:07.33Cezannicushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz6l5cmquXs <<< Huh. This was really a thing, Oluap?
19:07.38XhoNo it really wasn't
19:07.43XhoAnd who are you anyway
19:07.53Cuttlefish__Have we ever shown what pop culture stuff exists, what fictional characters do teenage Draconis blog about
19:07.53Monet_And by extension, that means most foreigners when they think of the DI only knwo of Minos'Drakon and Araveene
19:07.59XhoBeer and spirits don't affect me personality-wise, wine makes me silly and cider makes me violent
19:08.02CezannicusNeedles. Just under a new name
19:08.11CezannicusI'm maturing, that's for sure
19:08.36Wormy_awayWine just makes me tired
19:08.40Monet_Cuttlefish__: No and I think that's something we should seriously consider for fiction
19:08.53Monet_Tybusen's had a go at that in his Bunsen fics
19:09.01XhoGigaquadrantic Internet Conflicts
19:09.10Wormy_awaySpirits get really drunk, beer gets me happy/philosophical, cider makes me lose balance and get argumentative
19:09.16Cuttlefish__Didn't Cyrannian have that pop star
19:09.47CezannicusWith all this talk of drinks, I'd like to say I'm still underage.
19:09.51CezannicusFor drinking
19:10.05Monet_There was a time where peope lmade music bands.
19:10.05Wormy_awayThere was never an underage for me lol
19:10.16Cuttlefish__What the legal age in UK
19:10.20Wormy_awayat home anyway
19:10.22Xho18
19:10.32Wormy_awayYou can drink younger at home
19:10.38Monet_Cezannicus: Technically you're underrage to drink in public. I think you can be allowed ot drink at home
19:10.56CezannicusFuck, really? Or is that just in the UK?
19:11.03Wormy_awayThough since I can grow a beard, I have never really needed to prove my age
19:11.08Wormy_awayheh
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19:11.24HachimanYou can drink at a very young age by law at home so long as you're under supervision
19:11.25Wormy_awayIn the UK I think
19:11.41Wormy_awayI think its better that way
19:12.00CezannicusGolly.
19:12.05Cuttlefish__Here it's 21 with exception of wine for church, not that the police give a shit
19:12.09Wormy_awayBecause then you can learn about how it effects you before you go out binging at 18
19:12.10CezannicusI don't like alcohol anyways.
19:12.25Monet_Xho: "Guys I just saw Larnus in the cafe I work in he's sooo hot I love those big muscles of his, scars are so sexy #sexylordadmiral"
19:12.38XhoMonet_: "OH SHIT IT'S NU #iamgoingtodie"
19:13.02CezannicusI actually thought white wine was water once (because it was in a glass nearby) and I immediately spat it out
19:13.02Wormy_awayI'm sure americans drink at home younger than 21 but don't mention it
19:13.07CezannicusAWFUL taste
19:13.18XhoI can imagine that selfie Nu took with those Araveene superstars probably made the network's social media headlines
19:13.19Cuttlefish__Yeah underage drinking is a serious problem
19:13.24CezannicusIt is
19:13.35CezannicusAnd I'm glad I never swallowed that white wine
19:13.36Monet_I find wine has a different taste to other drinks like lager.
19:13.38The_RandomnessThe smell of almost every alcoholic beverage makes me want to gag
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19:13.50XhoThe only alcoholic drink I don't like is Black Sambucca
19:13.55Cuttlefish__In my town they actually made it mandatory that the prom have breathalisers
19:13.55Wormy_awayThats sao weird, you've all been conditioned to think that imo
19:14.02XhoYou think normal alcoholic drinks makes you gag
19:14.09XhoBlack Sambucca will make you chunder dragon
19:14.28Wormy_awayBlack sambacca?
19:14.31Wormy_awaygotta try that
19:14.42XhoSambuca even
19:14.45Wormy_awaylol
19:14.48Monet_I've tried bourbon while I was in iceland. Apart fro mthe feeling like my nostrils and gut were on fire it was pretty nice.
19:15.13XhoWhiskey is probably my favourite drink
19:15.15Wormy_awayI love proper real ale, especially hoppy ones
19:15.30XhoMy friend had two shots of whiskey and caved, there I was standing like "you noob"
19:15.53XhoIt's more of a winter drink than a summer drink
19:16.04Cuttlefish__At my house, we use shot glasses for everything expect alcohol
19:16.21XhoCuttlefish__: As a person who drinks alcohol I must say that sounds very odd in my head
19:16.39Cuttlefish__It is odd
19:16.48XhoActually come to think of it we have shot glasses but I don't use them
19:16.55Monet_Draconis - All your drinks are weak get some Vencortium Red down your throat
19:16.57XhoI usually pour doubles or triples and have them
19:17.01Monet_thne come back to me*
19:17.25XhoKicathian drinks
19:17.33XhoIf the strength doesn't kill you the chemical composition will
19:18.02XhoConsidering their drinks would be corrosively acidic
19:18.26XhoYeah I can't imagine it would be wise to Neknominate with a Kicathian drink
19:18.48XhoI can imagine in the Kraw Galaxy: "Asgord teenager dies from neknominating a Kicathian drink"
19:19.31XhoI wonder if it is possible to grow alcoholic fruit come to think of it
19:19.43Cuttlefish__They exist in real life
19:19.47Monet_"Get drunk eating an apple"
19:20.02Cuttlefish__Butterflies have gotten drunk from it. I think the way they fly after it is funny
19:20.23Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Min_Lagosi#Exodus_of_the_Kamehebi_-_Lympharian_Invasion Prepare for shamefur dispray
19:20.45Monet_Butterfly - I'm such a prety bug! Look at me wheee!
19:20.55Wormy_awayThere is something I'd like to point out, a cultural difference.  The british users here are more positive to talk about experiences with alcohol, the american users here, find it disgusting
19:21.08Xho"The forests that the Kamehebi used as homes were desecrated by Lagosi warriors, with some texts that have somehow survived into the modern day describing Kamehebi eggs and infants being harvested as a delicacy for Lagosi nobles of the time."
19:21.11CezannicusSeriously? How do butterflies get drunk?
19:21.15XhoWell you gotta do what you gotta do
19:21.27Monet_Cezannicus: Like the rest of us.
19:21.31XhoPersonally I find that hilarious but we'll see other people
19:21.33Cuttlefish__Wormy: In America, drinking has caused one too many deaths
19:21.36Monet_Alcohol is...kinda a neurotoxin
19:21.43Wormy_awayIts true, alcohols can form in fruits and flowers
19:21.48Cuttlefish__Drunk driving is a major issue here
19:21.53Wormy_awaySo it is here
19:22.06Wormy_awayThat can't be the issue
19:22.38Cuttlefish__IDK, I don't have a problem with alcohol, as long as you;re responsible
19:22.38HachimanF5 that page pls
19:22.47CezannicusF5?
19:22.49Monet_Could it relate somehow t othe mindset of the Prohibition era?
19:22.52XhoEither that or us drinkers are just rougher people hur
19:23.08Wormy_awayMight be our upbringing yes
19:23.29CezannicusProhibition is ded
19:23.32Wormy_awayI'm used to seeing people drink, even in my childhood my parents often took me to pubs
19:23.35Cuttlefish__Yeah, allot of people think that it kills brain cells and stuff. That only happens with heavy heavy use, and even then brain cells DO grow back.
19:23.41Monet_The US had an era for a time where all alcoholic substances were illegal, the UK never had such a time in the past 300 years
19:23.41CezannicusThousands of alcoholics are ded
19:23.41Wormy_away^
19:23.59Wormy_awayA small bit of alcohol is actually good for you
19:24.07CezannicusThousands of people involved in drunk driving car accidents are ded
19:24.14AngrybirdsYeah, but prohibition was probably THE era in the US where drinking was the highest.
19:24.20CezannicusDED DED DED DED and DED
19:24.30Cuttlefish__It was becuase they liked breaking the rules
19:24.40Cuttlefish__the idea that you can;t have it made them want it more
19:25.00CezannicusAddict logic
19:25.23CezannicusSo they were all alcohol addicts to begin with, then
19:25.28Monet_Perhaps the thing is related ot upbringin in the sense that, as with a few other situations, peope in tge united states tend to be a bit mroe...sensetive to bad news?
19:25.32Cuttlefish__Same thing for why cannabis use dropped after it was legalised here
19:25.40CezannicusYeah
19:25.40OluapPlayerHachiman: Damn, that was brutal
19:25.43CezannicusWait
19:25.45OluapPlayerI feel really sorry for the Kamehebi
19:25.55CezannicusIt's still federally illegal
19:26.11Monet_Federally, yes. But its legal in certain states
19:26.17Cezannicusyes
19:26.23CezannicusI live in the USA
19:26.27Cuttlefish__Hachi: Holy shit that is brutal
19:26.28CezannicusI watch the news every day
19:26.43Cuttlefish__They ate babies
19:26.54CezannicusWHAT IS THIS ABOUT EATING BABIES
19:27.15HachimanAye so do I, I wanted to make sure that people did not think that the Lagosi were always the historical good guys
19:27.19Monet_Most brits when faced with bad news tend to be alarmed for a bit then it's everything as usual
19:27.20ImperiosHachiman: They're psycho bunnies hur
19:27.23HachimanThis brutality can actually be seen in wild rabbits
19:27.25CezannicusYou've made me hungry, dammit
19:27.43OluapPlayerAnd then karma bit them in the ass with Lympharians everywhere hur
19:27.46ImperiosWell, no real-life nation's history is free of atrocities so it kinda makes sense
19:27.48Cuttlefish__the killer rabbit of caerbannog
19:28.02ImperiosThis makes me wonder if I should ellaborate on the Klaxxa's history
19:28.18CezannicusDo it, Impy
19:28.21ImperiosActually this makes me want to work
19:28.25ImperiosWhat page should I work on
19:28.33Monet_I mean...when the london Underground and several bus lines were bombed in the 7/7 bombings, there were peope lqueuing for the bus and going into subway stations the next day as if nothing was wrong
19:28.35CezannicusEverything
19:28.41CezannicusHistory, damnit
19:28.47CezannicusYou wanted to do history
19:28.47HachimanI think in either case, the Kamehebi were fucked because I imagine that no matter what, the Lympharians were gonna end up there one day
19:28.50CezannicusDo history
19:28.59OluapPlayerThat's true
19:29.13Cuttlefish__In UK if something bad happpens it hit national news, here it's just a tuesday
19:29.18Cezannicus((MeeM))
19:29.27OluapPlayerUnlike the Lagosi, the Lympharians wouldn't try to coexist or give them a chance to run
19:29.50Cuttlefish__What age draconis legally drink?
19:29.56HachimanWhat the Lagosi did is still largely unforgiveable though
19:30.05OluapPlayerWell yeah they were major dickweeds
19:30.16HachimanAnd the fact that most of those details are kept out of modern Min Lagosi history books makes it worse
19:30.31XhoShiarchon - eh             eating reptiles doesn't sound that bad to us
19:30.37Monet_Cuttlefish: about 30 I'd say. That's the Draconis equivilent of 15
19:30.41HachimanJapan is actually doing this with its own history books if I recall correctly, writing out the bad parts that they caused
19:30.45CezannicusSl\\S\\
19:30.52CezannicusDamn my typing
19:31.03OluapPlayerBlood Drake - wot
19:31.08CezannicusSo the draconis have double lifespans?
19:31.28XhoShiarchon - sry
19:31.37ImperiosHachiman: They are far from the only people that do that
19:31.42Cuttlefish__In america, only the great lakes, new england, and the northwest actually teach you about the trail of tears
19:31.46ImperiosRussians do that too, at times
19:31.48HachimanImperios; Oh yeah, Germans do it too I think
19:32.12CezannicusRight, Americans do that too
19:32.15HachimanI wonder if I'm putting too much writing on the Min Lagosi page for people to read, walls of text aren't that enthralling either
19:32.22OluapPlayerNah of course not
19:32.26HachimanI'm probably not but I worry a lot
19:32.27ImperiosI have worse walls
19:32.31CezannicusA lot, in fact, because we're all prideful asses
19:32.32Monet_Cezannicus: Ah...you might want to update yourself with Draocnis biology .SOme changes have been made.
19:32.32OluapPlayerIt shows how rich your fiction is
19:32.43Cuttlefish__The holocaust is average compared to what the colonists did
19:32.48OluapPlayerAs I said i never get tired of reading your walls of text hur
19:32.51CezannicusGot'cha, Monet_
19:33.07CezannicusAnd I'd like to continue developing the magalin
19:33.18CezannicusI still have no creature for them
19:33.20Cezannicusbut I have a ship
19:33.35Monet_Cezannicus: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Draconis
19:34.28Cuttlefish__Its still labeled 700 years even thouhg you said biological immortality
19:35.43Monet_That's about the age before it becomes inadviseable for them to live in 1g gravity
19:35.50Cuttlefish__Ok
19:36.11HachimanAlso note the implication in that section about Kamehebi farming hur
19:37.00ImperiosLagosi - grorious turtur tortur
19:37.04XhoLagosi - GOTTA MAKE A LIVIN'      EATIN UR ENEMY'S CHILDREN
19:37.19XhoI can imagine them selling off live Kamehebi as food
19:38.15HachimanPublicly this would cause outrage, only the noble houses can afford to get away with this in the modern day
19:38.29Cuttlefish__Do you think fiction humans feel like that about whaling now that whales are a major species
19:39.15Cuttlefish__Even things nice as space whales can't be that forgiving
19:39.23HachimanKamehebi are still largely used as serfs in the New Age though, even for lesser Lagosi tribes
19:39.36XhoWe're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales so we tell tall tales and sing our whalin' tune
19:39.55Xhoour harpoons even
19:40.10HachimanI imagine to prevent egg-eating and children-harvesting amongst the commonfolk as well as to get the public to believe they follow the same practices, many Kamehebi serfs are castrated
19:40.58Cuttlefish__damn is this what goes on in yer head
19:41.06HachimanXho: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/1511326_710359235708803_4730500194947428849_n.jpg
19:41.24XhoHachiman: hoh
19:41.40HachimanCuttlefish_: I made Min Lagosi to be inspired by ancient Japan, ancient Japan was not nice hur
19:41.47HachimanIt was also inspired by wild rabbits and their own brutality
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19:41.52Cuttlefish__Might as well add war rape while we're at it
19:42.01Monet_Cuttlefish__: I Like the detail he's putting in. It makes the whole fiction feel alive and real
19:42.12Monet_Bunny on turtle.
19:42.19CezannicusNO THANK YOU
19:42.24Monet_A bit too far perhaps?
19:42.25HachimanWar rape between Lagosi tribes is probable, putting dick in a Kamehebi, probably not
19:42.37OluapPlayerHachiman: Clotho - hachi calm down PLEASE
19:43.25XhoHachi - THE PAIN TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES
19:43.38CezannicusEugh, man.
19:43.51HachimanSo Hachi comes from a people that have a history of "cannibalism" if that's legitimate, debauchery, civil conflict, and a number of other nasty things
19:44.08XhoSo do I hur
19:44.09OluapPlayerWell it's not rape if it's consensual hur
19:44.19OluapPlayerdumba
19:44.29XhoOluapPlayer: Hachi - now clotho let's not turn this rape into a murder
19:44.30Monet_Archavior - Suddenly I like these rabbits for more than dinner
19:44.47OluapPlayerXho: you got the names inverted there
19:44.51XhoOh my
19:45.07CezannicusWoops-a-daisy!
19:45.21CezannicusThings'll go worse if names are inverted
19:45.33CezannicusUnexpected outcomes and all]
19:46.06Cuttlefish__Have any sci-fi fictions done stuff like this. even the demons havn't done that, they're just like "hahahaha me evil"
19:46.11XhoIncognito - Now kalcedia let's not turn this murder into necrophilia
19:46.16Hachimanolol
19:46.17OluapPlayerYes
19:46.26HachimanAlso, in case no one noticed, Hachi is himself a product of incest, since his dad impregnated his own second cousin
19:46.36XhoThat explains everything
19:46.42HachimanKinda does tbh
19:46.58Cuttlefish__And his grandfather was a hare
19:47.05Wormy_awaylol
19:47.19OluapPlayerMortium - i got loads of fluffy bunnies and turtles
19:47.20Monet_Cuttlefish_::: Are you asking if any fictionverse fictions act evil for the sake of being bad guys?
19:47.50XhoI think he was asking whether there are any fictions or characters that have genuinely evil tendencies
19:47.53HachimanSomething makes me wonder if I made the Lagosi too gritty
19:48.06OluapPlayerEh I wouldn't worry about it
19:48.11Cuttlefish__Partly but also, even good fictions might have terribl soldiers who might do nasty stuff
19:48.19WormyThe DCP are often bad because of my tendencies to be evil
19:48.30XhoNu - eh I wouldn't call it nasty                    more like super creative
19:48.51WormyLets get creative!
19:48.51HachimanCuttlefish_: Well Kol Daren is an infamous rapist and murderer of both women and men, probably a cannibal as well
19:49.03XhoIncognito is my only truly messed up character
19:49.08Monet_To aonswer your question: Yes, we have a lot of fictions who act unashamadly evil, and we have the odd member of a "good" empire who is a sadist or a prick
19:49.32XhoRapist, serial killer, necrophiliac, cannibal...uh
19:49.41OluapPlayerVorius - wiggle wiggle
19:49.42XhoInfernal demon as well in one timeline
19:49.49WormyXho http://youtu.be/9C_HReR_McQ?t=2m21s
19:50.08Cuttlefish__hehe ive seen that
19:50.29XhoWormy: Ladies and gentlemen, Insomnia
19:51.17Monet_Vesperon Maltris is one who could be seen as pragmatically evil. Since the end of New Dawn indicate's he is secretly willing to undermine the Parago nto get what he wants
19:51.27OluapPlayerI can sorta imagine Mortium deliberaly making himself noticeable for everyone to see in very large scale battles where a lot of people are dying at once
19:51.48HachimanMortium - RATTLE RATTLE RATTLE NOW GET IN THE BAG
19:51.54OluapPlayerhur
19:51.56XhoI would say Battle of Tachjamund but everyone was killed by Void Denizens
19:52.10OluapPlayerYes, he may or may not be yelling at everyone to get in the bag in the process
19:52.29OluapPlayerIt's more for a psychological effect. You killed all those people, watch as death takes them away
19:52.32XhoMortium - OH HEY LOOK CEASEFIRE          GET IN THE BAG
19:54.39HachimanI can imagine the Lagosi have seen Mortium quite a few times in that case
19:55.08OluapPlayerMortium - YOU HELP FILL THE BAG GOOD                     YOU'LL FIT IN PRETTY NICE LATER
19:56.17OluapPlayerI can imagine him appearing in the Lympharian war and just grinning mockingly at the Lagosi
19:56.43CezannicusMe too.
19:56.45Monet_Mortium - Should have saved soem turtle soup for me.
19:56.55OluapPlayerhur
19:56.57CezannicusAlthough I know little of what you speak of
19:56.58Cezannicusif any at all
19:57.02HachimanMortium - KNOCK KNOCK      GET IN THE BAG
19:57.52CezannicusMortium - THE CAT'S OUT                WE HAVE ROOM
19:58.00OluapPlayerHe had no turtle soup, he had to eat rabbit stew instead
19:58.55WormyWe are doomed, we are all doomed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtkGtXtDlQA
19:59.20Cuttlefish__I see you found this is it
19:59.22CezannicusLet's go on a journey
19:59.24CezannicusA journey
19:59.26CezannicusThrough
19:59.28CezannicusTIME
19:59.51OluapPlayerXho: Reading Pelagrios' prologue reminded me I wanted to ask you, are Frost Drakes sapient?
20:00.29CezannicusI nearly thought "Frost Drake" was a name for a person
20:00.32CezannicusWhat the hell, brain
20:00.35CezannicusWhat the hell
20:01.24CezannicusHey Ghel
20:01.27GhelHello.
20:01.34CezannicusHow're all things
20:03.18XhoOluapPlayer: Yes
20:03.32OluapPlayerrite
20:03.57OluapPlayerJust curious since we've never seen them talking and stuff
20:04.45Cuttlefish__Wow I knew Kol Daren was messed up but he's a rapist too
20:04.49Monet_That's discrimination against sapient species that communicate nonverbally
20:05.02OluapPlayerhur
20:11.14Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10552524_829357813778077_823643129407656776_n.jpg?oh=5ef7bb0e2b5578a28b6457923040f659&oe=54543DF5&__gda__=1414356590_b94e83075e025c2f3f09840f33fe4436 Best thing I've seen all day
20:11.36DrodoEmpirewat
20:11.38OluapPlayerwot
20:14.02XhoOluapPlayer: I got a new spray on TF2
20:14.15Wormywow
20:14.32OluapPlayerspru
20:15.03XhoActually it's infinitely better than that
20:15.39XhoThere's only one thing that is better than Spu
20:15.58Monet_Two Spus?
20:16.28XhoNope
20:16.35Monet_Ten Spus?
20:16.37XhoNope
20:16.41OluapPlayerAinsley and Gaben
20:16.45Monet_A planet of Spus?
20:16.47OluapPlayerNo wait that's two things
20:16.54TekDroidXho?
20:16.55XhoShrek
20:17.12OluapPlayerPreferring onion over good ol' rub
20:17.14OluapPlayerShamefur dispray
20:17.25XhoIf I face meld Shrek and Ainsley would you be happy
20:17.27Monet_OluapPlayer: What about...a secret lovechild of Gaben and Ainsley: Gabbsley
20:17.38OluapPlayerJesus christ
20:17.47OluapPlayerWe're not ready for the end times yet
20:18.40Monet_One is not supposed ot knwo when the end times ar ecoming
20:19.05OluapPlayerNow I imagine Ainsley but green and with Shrek ears
20:19.18OluapPlayerThat'd probably look hilarious
20:21.15Xhohttp://img.morphthing.com/i/81622493/2/0/b1f16f94/shrek-jpg--ainsley-harriott-1x1-jpg.jpeg It didn't go very well
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20:21.50Catfacemassages OluapPlayer's feet with fish gloves
20:22.04Hachimanohgod that looks horrendous
20:22.37XhoShrey Harriot
20:22.39Cuttlefish__oh my god
20:22.43XhoShrey Harriott even
20:22.47ImpyDroidIt looks evil
20:22.50OluapPlayerXho: I can feel my soul be ripped off my body
20:22.58XhoI can't stop laughing
20:24.12Xhohttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/141/499/1309273617001.png Excellent
20:24.30Catfacedoes a Lorena Bobbitt on Xho.
20:25.01Xhohttp://ilmegliodiinternet.it/wp-content/gallery/ainsley-harriot/1310343067001.jpg Deus Ex: Cooking Revolution
20:25.16HachimanLooks like Morpheus
20:25.28XhoAinsley Jensen
20:25.58CatfaceXho: Do you happen to have any human/humanoid bases for spore that I can borrow?
20:26.02OluapPlayer"I never rubbed for this."
20:26.08XhoCatface: Nope
20:26.28XhoMy human bases aren't that good
20:26.30CatfaceXho: I have no real son.
20:26.31ImpyDroidCatface: Try mine if you have DI
20:26.50Xhohttp://i.imgur.com/YUAq0Vg.png This would be a great spray
20:26.52CatfaceImpyDroid: Where is yours?
20:27.41ImpyDroidSomewhere
20:29.34XhoOluapPlayer: What if I changed that picture to a negative
20:29.43XhoIt looks outright satanic
20:30.02OluapPlayerpls
20:34.16Wormyi like the music in this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS7NYKqhrFo
20:35.11Cuttlefish__https://31.media.tumblr.com/c213023d0b7528b237f3a0dddb956be3/tumblr_n9wju4DUhS1shyzkwo1_400.jpg
20:37.55XhoExcellent
20:42.04TekDroidSo today in Space Engineers I drove a fully functional AT-AT. XD
20:42.52DrodoEmpirelol
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20:46.35XhoI just updated the Koldenwelt map to show the Bay of Orayu
20:47.42TekDroidOnly problem with the AT-AT is that it can stand with only one leg left.
20:47.48TekDroid:(
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20:48.54Wormyhi
20:49.06TekDroidIt seems they keep going until they literally have no leg to stand on.
20:49.09TekDroidHello
20:49.33WormySounds like those dance marathons that went on for 5 months in extreme cases
20:50.24TekDroidSomeone had built a working AT-AT in Space Engineers.
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21:01.40OluapPlayerDamnit
21:03.29Monet_Oluap: Hope you don't mind but I had a go at designing Mortium http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140806210219/spore/images/e/eb/MonetMortiumSuggestion.png
21:03.41Monet_Up to you if it can be canon or not
21:04.30Monet_Do you like it?
21:04.52OluapPlayerOoh
21:04.58OluapPlayerWish I could make wings that good
21:05.17OluapPlayerWell I did say he has multiple appearances, so yours and mine can be canon at the same time
21:05.22TekDroidO.O
21:06.16Monet_I failed at white angel wings but I do have a "carrion crow" vibe.from my model's wings.
21:06.35Monet_Crows and wolves being the inspiration for the Norse Valkyries.
21:06.53ImpyDroidIt could be the Draonoggr version of Mort
21:06.58OluapPlayeryeah it's a pretty good model
21:07.07ImpyDroidOr the Mannazian human/elven version
21:07.10OluapPlayerDraonoggr - crow-man is here to take us
21:07.47Monet_Mortium - Caw. Caw. Bag. Now.
21:08.08Wormyhttp://www.cuantarazon.com/crs/2012/09/CR_719518_corinth_canal.jpg
21:08.09OluapPlayerolol
21:08.11OluapPlayerMortium - CAW CAW. THAT'S CROW FOR GET IN THE BAG. NOW GET IN THE BAG.
21:08.19WormyI didn't believe that image at first
21:08.52OluapPlayerSomething like that pictures exists at Central America
21:08.59OluapPlayerCan't remember where exactly now
21:09.03OluapPlayer*picture
21:09.14Monet_The panama Canal?
21:09.37OluapPlayerYeah that's it
21:10.02ImpyDroid>" A similar phenomenon took place among school-aged girls in a behavior termed “smashing.” This describes the sending of flowers, gifts, notes, and other items to a girl one wanted to become intense friends with. Often, poems and locks of hair were exchanged, and when the two girls finally became inseparable, they were said to be smashed"
21:10.16OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Mortium#Gallery dere, cannonball
21:10.21ImpyDroidVictorian Britain had some interesting traditions
21:10.53Monet_Nowadays "smasked" is one of thousands of euphanisms for "drunk"
21:10.57Monet_Smashed*
21:10.59WormyI once had to travel through these locks http://someinterestingfacts.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/How-do-Canal-Locks-Work.jpg
21:13.14Wormythis thing is awesome, though never went on it http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/Images/Falkirk-WheelL_tcm4-570249.jpg
21:13.56Monet_Let me recall, in England we have words like smashed, shit-faced, wankered, hammered, twatted and three sheets to the wind to mean "drunk". There's probably more
21:14.26Monet_There's also inebriated but not many people use that.
21:14.37XhoOluapPlayer: quoted Mortium
21:15.23Monet_OluapPLayer: I'l lupload my model's PNG
21:15.59Wormydid scary http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Pontcysyllte_aqueduct_arp.jpg
21:16.01OluapPlayerMortium - u sur showed me with ur buzzwords NOW GET IN THE BAG
21:16.05Wormydis
21:16.17XhoCaligaduro - I            AM            THE           BAG
21:16.30OluapPlayerMortium - GET ON YOURSELF THEN I DON'T GOT ALL DAY
21:16.42XhoCaligaduro - u hav all eternity          i can wait
21:16.50Monet_Caligaduro - I AM THE BAHHHG
21:17.02OluapPlayerI read in a very heavy scottish accent
21:17.28XhoCaligaduro - OOOOOOH THEY'RE GOIN TO HAV TO GLOO YOO BAK TOGETHAH IN HEEEELLLL
21:17.40OluapPlayerDemoduro Provectus
21:18.39XhoThe fact that Mortium doesn't fear Caligaduro will always stump me
21:18.50XhoHell even Kinmo is scared of Caligaduro
21:19.25OluapPlayerWell fear for Mortium doesn't really help him at all
21:19.57OluapPlayerHe knows he can't get rid of Caligaduro but at the same time being scared of him would get on the way of his job
21:20.16OluapPlayerWorkoholic skeleton
21:20.31Monet_"To further fear him is redundant, to hate him, heretical"
21:20.41XhoCaligaduro - BAAAAAAAW             Mortium - can't talk        baggin' bitches
21:20.44OluapPlayerYeah and he really hates him hur
21:21.03XhoI think everyone hates Caligaduro
21:21.10XhoEven Kaicaiusarin slightly hates Caligaduro
21:21.35OluapPlayerVargash - quit ur bitch fits
21:21.42XhoAmbhíqolosemos hates Caligaduro for turning him into what he is
21:21.56XhoBut at the same time can't hate him because he is his servant
21:21.57OluapPlayerI don't think Vargash has a reason to hate Caligaduro
21:22.08OluapPlayerCaligaduro - my only friend is a giant mouth
21:22.19XhoVargash - mad world             Caligaduro - no        ded world              Vargash - y
21:22.51OluapPlayerVargash - ded l8              Caligaduro - ded NAO                   Vargash - u suk at dis game
21:22.57XhoDespite Kalarah's servitude to Caligaduro he sort of fears him greatly
21:23.14XhoLeviathan and Akharav as well
21:23.44XhoTrust me when you serve a totally malevolent deity you can't exactly like him
21:23.57OluapPlayerZran Kar is both terrified and fascinated by Caligaduro
21:24.22XhoAsv-Aldz screams like a bitch whenever Caligaduro is mentioned
21:24.25OluapPlayerSince he's the nerd Simulacrum who wants to know everything ever, yet he doesn't understand Caligaduro
21:24.49HachimanZran Kar is actually god of neckbeards
21:24.53XhoNalashtannylor may be one of the few who just wholeheartedly hates Caligaduro rather than fears him
21:24.56OluapPlayerZran Kar - m'lady
21:25.04OluapPlayerHim and Mortium
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21:25.45OluapPlayerNalashtannylor - bro                 Mortium - PHOENIXES ARE ALL IN THE BAG                   Nalashtannylor - u lil shit
21:25.54Xhoolol
21:26.03XhoNalashtannylor takes Mortium's bag
21:26.10XhoNalashtannylor - can u not
21:26.29OluapPlayerMortium - GET INSIDE IT THERE'S PHOENIXES INSIDE WAITING
21:26.29XhoNow all I can think of is an artifact called the Sack of Death
21:26.30Monet_I was reading Cracked earlier today and it indicated this whole DABDAH thing is a summary of the general emotions that can be expressed by people on their way to die. Its not a list of emotions one goes though after losing a loved one.
21:26.37XhoThrows it over someone -> They die
21:26.42OluapPlayerolol
21:27.05XhoMonet_: Well that certainly took a serious turn there
21:27.38OluapPlayerMortium's favorite sport -> Sack race
21:27.43Monet_Xho: No problem lol
21:27.51XhoI imagine Crux is to stupid to even have an opinion on Caligaduro
21:27.55Xhotoo*
21:27.59HachimanPretty much
21:28.10OluapPlayerCrux - HNNNNNNNNNNNNG           Caligaduro - wut u sey bout ma mom
21:28.36Monet_This is surprising. Crux, being a manifestation of primal emotion, is basically the least intelligent of all Simulacra.
21:29.04XhoCrux - I̫̯̤ ̗̹̦͉̤̝̝͢C̮̰̙͈Ạ̻N̹̣ ̳̟͖͜ͅC͖͇͉̙͍̱Ơ͚̳̬Ú̺̜̥̺̪ͅN̡T̲̫̝̘ T̷͈͈O̡̤͎̱̪̠̙̥ ͉̹̟P̻͈͉OT̛̯̳̯A̸͙̲͔̱͇̻Ţ̯̪̮͕̝̻Ǫ̰͈͚͍ͅ
21:29.06Monet_Being pure id his mind runs on "I want X now"
21:29.40OluapPlayerYou have Crux as the dumbest and Zran Kar as the smartest
21:29.44OluapPlayerZazane <-> Kolossus
21:29.45OluapPlayerfits c
21:29.48Hachimanech
21:30.27HachimanMakes me wonder what others think of Crux and whether they fear him or just think he's silly hur
21:30.34HachimanAs in, other Simulacra
21:30.54OluapPlayerMortium probably wants to reap him, Zran Kar probably sees him as a massive idiot
21:31.05OluapPlayerAnd Vargash probably wants to eat him
21:31.08XhoNalashtannylor thinks that if Caligaduro could tame him it could be an interdimensional shitstorm
21:31.22XhoAsv-Aldz is also somewhat scared of him
21:31.26Monet_So wait..if Crux is pure libido does that mean he's our fantasyverse Angazhar?
21:31.34OluapPlayerIs Asv-Aldz scared of everyone hur
21:31.43XhoAsv-Aldz is mostly a coward yes
21:31.53XhoAt least in the presence of other Simulacra
21:32.01HachimanCrux could be seen as that but he's not smart enough to make threats
21:32.11HachimanHe just outright does violent shit out of nowhere
21:32.21XhoFantasyverse God Nu then
21:32.27OluapPlayerCrux - *cuts wrists*
21:32.39XhoCaligaduro - stoopid stoopid stoopid
21:32.49HachimanCrux - *cuts wrists* -> Actually Asv/Aldz' wrists
21:32.52Monet_So while Angazhar is an all-powerful five year old, Crx is an all-powerful two year old?
21:32.58XhoAsv-Aldz - y u do dis
21:33.18XhoAsv-Aldz is scared of Caligaduro, Crux, Vargash and Nalashtannylor
21:33.30HachimanCrux - B̨Ȩ̕C̀͝Ą̀ÙŞ̵E͞ ̨͢F̀L̡Ą̶̶M̡ING̕͝O̢
21:33.38Monet_[22:31] <Xho> Asv-Aldz is mostly a coward yes [22:31] <Xho> At least in the presence of other Simulacra |  Asv-Aldz - Don't hit me.... | Nalashtannylor - Then give me your lunch money and we'll be good.
21:33.39OluapPlayerI can imagine Asv-Aldz and Mortium playing a game, Asv-Aldz tries to cheat and Mortium then chases him around with his scythe
21:34.02XhoAsv-Aldz - WOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL         Mortium - YOU CHEATED GET IN THE BAG
21:34.11OluapPlayerhur
21:34.28OluapPlayerYeah when you think about it, nearly none of the Simulacra probably get along at all
21:34.36XhoNalashtannylor could be seen as the only inherently good Simualcrum
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21:34.55GD12sup IRC
21:35.11XhoI think Nal is probably the only one that other Simulacra get along with
21:35.16OluapPlayerOne good, one or two neutral, nine or ten evil
21:35.20XhoAt least tenuously
21:37.17Monet_Hello GD
21:37.47Monet_I like how IRC banter has turned Mortium into a grumpy workaholic obsessed with stuffing peope lin sacks
21:37.51Wormythis guy is scary to look at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/JP_Morgan_crop.jpg
21:37.55XhoI should make a page for Nalashtannylor really
21:38.01OluapPlayerYes you should
21:38.06XhoThat's a rather stern face
21:38.08GD12If anyone wants to look I've been working on this for a bit http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny/Dominatus_Mirus
21:38.30OluapPlayerWell, not counting the bag-obsessed part, Mortium is definitely a workaholic
21:39.27OluapPlayerCaligaduro's defeat was probably the only time he ever took a break
21:39.49XhoMortium - too many people to bag       just too many
21:40.06OluapPlayerMortium - im gonna need another bag
21:42.44WormyDominatem Sector
21:42.50WormyBest name for a sector ever
21:43.16GD12aye thanks
21:45.02GD12Sectors are Dominaem, Apocalypse, Mortis, and Terminus if TLDR
21:45.03OluapPlayergets in the bag
21:45.05GD12*Dominatem
21:45.13WormyThe DCP will be trying to sway the ULE into helping the war effort
21:45.35WormyOr more like, out-of-universe, it will be me trying to get Catface doing fiction again lol
21:48.40Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Nalashtannylor It's a start
21:50.10XhoF5 that page pls
21:59.24GD12Technobliterator : is it possible to put tabbers in tabbers?
22:00.04Technobliteratoryou can try, but I don't know about this wiki, it works on the FFwiki but I'm not sure if they use the same javascript behind them
22:00.11GD12i see
22:02.59HachimanGD12: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Min_Lagosi#Exodus_of_the_Kamehebi_-_Lympharian_Invasion Have some cute bunny brutality
22:03.09GD12reading
22:03.14GD12*reading that now
22:03.21Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Lagosi Note this is what a Lagosi is
22:04.00GD12ic
22:04.03GD12Kinotaran Hyetennihua Rasaangiaotai
22:04.04GD12dat name
22:04.28XhoI must say
22:04.39XhoI think you can come up with a better name than Munki
22:04.51HachimanProbably
22:05.27GD12The Way the Lagosi treat the Kamehebi reminds me much of how the Drakodominatus treated their conquered species earlier on
22:05.56HachimanGD12: btw Kinotaran is just a title, it basically translates to "king"
22:06.05GD12i c
22:06.31XhoThink of a name going along the Japanese translation for monkey
22:06.37XhoWhich is saru from what I recall
22:06.38GD12That was awesome
22:06.43HachimanBut Munki are Chinese inspired
22:07.15XhoHouzi then
22:08.07GD12i c what u did
22:08.20GD12you'd probably want to romanize the pronounciation of that though
22:08.30GD12so Hoetse
22:08.35GD12*Houtse
22:10.07TechnobliteratorWormy, can you reply to USO's transmission to the DCP?
22:10.24HachimanHosaru
22:10.41HachimanOr Honsaru
22:10.50HachimanI dunno something along those lines
22:11.43WormyOh yes
22:12.11XhoHon hon honsaur
22:12.14Xhosaru even
22:13.15HachimanI'm open for suggestions anyway, as well as renames for the "Wukong" part of Wukong Domain
22:13.34XhoHonsaru Domain
22:13.36Xhodere
22:13.54XhoSounds quite intimidating actually
22:13.58XhoHonsaru Domain
22:14.28HachimanDoes actually
22:15.29GD12hmm
22:15.45GD12now i have some time I should probably start on the history page for the Tyranny
22:17.44XhoWormy: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10450541_10203416799974323_2281838077548758002_n.jpg?oh=659f26ada493b10edb7fe7165f77de18&oe=5449C633&__gda__=1414948684_c0f4912dcf813728331405dabd381e63 I can't stop laughing
22:20.01Wormylol
22:20.49WormyJo:  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Ultimate_Sovereignity_of_Ottzello
22:21.42Technobliteratoryeah I saw
22:21.58Technobliteratoryou put it on the wrong talk page though :P but I probably linked wrong in Msg/USO
22:22.07Wormythats the link i used
22:22.56Technobliteratoryeah
22:23.00TechnobliteratorI did it wrong
22:23.43GD12someone delete it pl0x http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny/Military_Leadership
22:24.26Technobliteratordone
22:25.37GD12noice
22:25.47GD12I'm in the process of going through my pages and updating them in quality
22:26.09GD12and getting rid of obsolete shit
22:27.05Wormyeat your reds http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329800.100-space-salad-glows-purple-in-a-greenhouse-made-for-mars.html#.U-KrfPldV8E
22:27.40GD12delete thiss to pl0x http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny/Schools_of_Combat
22:29.48GD12May as well also edit the infobox to reflect them prior to the start of Mirus Campaign
22:31.17XhoSpace salad
22:31.21XhoThis is brilliant
22:36.04Wormydone
22:37.23GD12yay for getting rid of old pages
22:41.28Monet_Since Sarec, Alessa and Paronus are rounder 100 years old I should tweak their models. They wouldn't be as fat as older Draconis
22:42.21GD12whos paronus?
22:42.57Monet_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Paronus_Ultanos Uriel's eldest known son
22:45.20GD12new obsolete page to nuke http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny/Training
22:47.09Monet_Reading Paronus' page I wonder if it is worthwhile to make a page on Drakon's Eye.
22:50.39Monet_A flawlessly-cut, teal-tinted diamond with the broad oval-shaped sides being the rough size of a human head
22:51.29TekDroidO.O
22:51.35Monet_Set into a golden necklace with hundreds of other sapphires, emeralds and diamonds.
22:51.36GD12thats a big diamond
22:51.49GD12Draconis - ain't got no swag like we do
22:52.08TekDroid"size of a human head" "set into a golden necklace" O.O
22:52.42Monet_The Drakon's Eye necklace is the official seal of office of the paragavatus
22:53.58Monet_Actually...I'll postpone remaking Sarec and paronus for now and work on that necklace
22:54.08GD12If anyone has anything new to add to this, quotes would be cool http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny#Quotes
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23:09.52GD12delete pl0x http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny/Science_Leadership
23:09.55GD12bbl
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23:19.55Monet_Crap.
23:20.04GD12wot
23:20.28Monet_I could have sworn I once made a picture of Uriel wearing the livery collar with all the gems but I can't find it
23:21.27Monet_oh wait I'll see if I saved it as a photoshop document
23:23.01Monet_FOund it.
23:27.19GD12I think i'm going to expand on some characters
23:27.29GD12actually maybe later for that hur
23:28.18Monet_http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140806232706/spore/images/4/4c/Drakon%27s_Eye_Representative.png its not perfect but this is a close represenation
23:28.50GD12Is the diamond supposed to be the size of a human head?
23:29.01Monet_I'd say the gem there is about 1/4 of the true size
23:29.18Monet_At least.
23:30.07Wormyngh jewelry
23:30.19WormyAs a mineral collector I like my stones rough
23:31.38Wormyto me this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Beryl-Quartz-Emerald-Zambia-70mm_0876.jpg/505px-Beryl-Quartz-Emerald-Zambia-70mm_0876.jpg is far superior to http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server1100/0d184/product_images/uploaded_images/gemfields-emerald-in-rectangular-cut.jpg
23:32.21Monet_The first one looks like a rod of Tiberium.
23:33.12WormySpeaking of which, I've just finished putting fossils I found on holiday into my vast collection
23:34.09Monet_ALso another inaccuracy: The diamond in that picture gem is white, the gem I'm envisioning now has a slight teal tinge to it
23:34.29Monet_Because value
23:34.54WormyThere is this beach on Kimmeridge Bay where finding fossils isn't occasional, you are absoltely guarenteed to find fossils as they literally litter the ground due to a very fragile cliff of mudstones
23:35.39Wormyhttp://www.southampton.ac.uk/~imw/kimfoss.htm
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23:38.24WormyGD12, Monet_  My lecturer's work has got an article written about it on phys.org http://phys.org/news/2014-08-humans-permanent-deep-earth.html
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23:39.43GD12o wow
23:39.50HachimanHai
23:39.56TybusenHachiman: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9745409/1/Unforgiven-Attack-on-Titan-Shingeki-no-Kyojin I recently discovered this beautiful masterpiece
23:39.58TekDroidHello
23:40.38HachimanTybusen: I say "hai" to you and you greet me with shit
23:40.48TekDroidlol
23:40.52GD12Wormy_fiction : wot u writing
23:40.54Wormy_fictionDCP-Vermulan war time
23:40.56TybusenHai Hachiman
23:40.59GD12noice
23:41.15HachimanTybusen: I did not plan on getting cancer today, you just had to show me that
23:41.17Wormy_fictionI need to reveal where Lunarai has disappeared since the last 8 chapters or so
23:41.54TekDroidGetting my time zomes mixed up, is it 11:40 or 12:40 in the UK?
23:42.00GD12Obsolete pages must dai http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny/Navy/Military_Assessment
23:42.16Hachiman12:40
23:42.42TybusenHachiman: Have you ever heard of My Immortal before
23:43.00HachimanAs in the song by that one crappy band
23:43.07Wormy_fictiondone
23:43.22GD12nice
23:43.41TybusenNo, as in the infamously shitty Harry Potter fanfic
23:43.53HachimanOhgod
23:43.58HachimanYes I have heard of that
23:44.58TybusenI have a very strong feeling that this SnK fanfic was supposed to be the SnK version of My Immortal
23:48.12Wormy_fictionI read a pretty bad star trek fanfic once
23:48.14TybusenThere's a quality to both of them that just makes it seem so obvious that they were written that way intentionally
23:49.51Wormy_fictionhttp://www.wiccananime.com/amslt/amslttrekkiestale
23:50.35TybusenWormy_fiction: That is the fanfiction that gave birth to the term "Mary Sue"
23:50.55TybusenAnd it was also written poorly on purpose
23:51.20Wormy_fiction<PROTECTED>
23:51.47TekDroid...
23:52.06TekDroidI think I lost brain cells there.
23:52.17HachimanBut isn't that how Kirk acted normally?
23:52.48GD12ngh
23:52.51GD12nghtastic
23:53.40Wormy_fictionImagine Kirk saying all that with the crazy expressions
23:53.52GD12rite
23:54.04GD12well i was stumbling across the internet and I actually found the first fanfiction i made
23:54.09GD12twas a warhammer 40k one
23:55.30GD12admittedly it was also quite sue
23:56.07GD12tldr IG regiment with a lot of super-heavy tanks
23:56.26GD12#nostalgia
23:57.11Wormy_fictionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP-krMn5k4E
23:57.33Wormy_fictionMy old fiction is pretty awful

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