IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140720

00:00.10Angrybirds_drom : Probably all of them, since they're such great models.
00:00.45LordRaydonThe Turkish government in the Fictionverse is called the Ottomans-- but, I thought that the Ottoman Empire was overthrown during the World Wars?
00:01.27dromNaakji - "Oy yey. Let's do an excellent plan to disstablize the starship market!" *rubs hands*
00:01.31Angrybirds_It came back. Liquid_Ink , this is a question for you.
00:02.04Angrybirds_France - *gulps and clings to the Mirage Roi*
00:02.43ZF_workinIt got better.
00:02.50LordRaydonOhhhh. Okay, sorry. I was confused for a second. ^_^'
00:04.44dromI should do an entry for this ship tomorrow. It will either be an fighter or a covrette. http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140510201059/spore/images/8/8d/Naakjielite1.png
00:06.43Angrydroido.o
00:06.54ZillafireDang. That's impressive. To say the least.
00:06.59dromWhat's your suggestion on it's type?
00:07.21ZillafireType? like "name"-class?
00:07.57dromI do the name.
00:08.06dromThe class depends on the type.
00:08.08ZillafireOh, wait I think I know what you mean now. Derp
00:08.39ZillafireTo me it looks like a corvette. Just from my point of veiw.
00:08.52dromBut the confession (the last letters) is also up to you guys.
00:09.10dromhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Naakjian_Confederation/Military#Types_and_Classification
00:10.26dromMy "Thanks!"-bar has now recharged!
00:10.36dromThanks for ze compliment Zillafire!
00:11.59dromSo. What kind of corvette?
00:14.27ZillafireAggressive, heavy.
00:15.49dromCa-1-{confession}
00:16.22ZillafirePublic?
00:17.00dromCa-1-j
00:23.03LordRaydontest
00:29.42dromwe got you lord
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00:32.28LordRaydonI wanna play Alpha Centauri or Civ II.
00:32.49dromI got [pirated] Alpha Centauri
00:32.56TekDroidJust uploading something neat, now need to wait for it to update...
00:33.58LordRaydonAnyone else hear about the Eternal War thing?
00:34.29TekDroidMade a cool little planet image with shadows, a ring and even a little atmosphere effects. :/
00:36.04TekDroidkicks Wikia's image server
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00:38.14TekDroidhttp://i.imgur.com/ZJ5CzOY.png
00:38.37TekDroidThe atmosphere doesn't show on the white background. :/
00:38.55dromLooks rad though.
00:39.24TekDroidThanks.
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00:42.44HachimanHello.
00:42.57TekDroidHello
00:43.28dromich naucht time
00:43.36dromgood bye
00:43.46LordRaydonhttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/10/civ-iis-eternal-war-continues-on-reddit-more-than-a-year-later/
00:44.13Liquid_InkI've read that. It's awesome
00:44.51LordRaydonIt is. I've never had something like that happen to me.
00:45.21dromWe need to make an event.
00:45.31dromSporewiki as one player.
00:45.37dromVs the other computers.
00:45.45dromCiv 5, diety difficulty.
00:47.32TekDroidYou can see some of the effects better here. http://i.imgur.com/3iF6mjF.png
00:47.59LordRaydonDrom's idea actually sounds cool--
00:48.09Liquid_InkI'm game!
00:48.30LordRaydonModdinhg the Civ II game to have Sporewiki Fictionverse cultures and pitting them against eachother.
00:48.47LordRaydonMaybe even use the Multiplayer Gold, so we can fight eachother!
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00:52.53TekDroidI wondered the other day what 0-player civ game would be like. XD
00:53.53TekDroidJust seeing what the AI would do.
00:54.57Tybusen"Guys, we don't have a human player to gang up on, what do we do"
00:55.40LordRaydonXD
00:56.00TekDroidI rather lost interest in Civ. I found the depth a little lacking.
00:56.22TekDroidin Civ 5 at least.
00:56.40LordRaydonAgreed. I'm not all that happy with how V turned out.
00:56.55TybusenAngrybirds_: how does i transparent ship picture
00:57.42TekDroidTybusen: Put the ship in front a solid black wall in the adventure editor, then crop in a basic image editor using colour selection.
00:57.54TybusenAlright
01:05.40TekDroidO.o They're trying to unban someone in another channel I'm in. They've removed well over a dozen bans and they still can't get in.
01:06.03TybusenAngrybirds_: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140720010500/spore/images/8/8e/FA-39A_Swallow.png It has POTATO colors, I can give you the PNG for the ship itself if you want to repaint it with French colors
01:07.34TekDroidTybusen: that's cool.
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01:10.33TybusenTekDroid: Thanks :D
01:12.13TekDroidNow if only my image would update. :/
01:21.56Angrybirds_Tybusen: Yes please
01:22.15DrodoEmpiretest
01:22.20TekDroidpass
01:24.02Angrybirds_Tybusen: I'm also probably going to rearm it, if that's okay.
01:24.13TybusenNo problem
01:24.31Angrybirds_I just need to transfer my Spore folder to my new PC..
01:24.42Angrybirds_And my old PC's hard drive is sitting on my desk.
01:24.45TybusenAngrybirds_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:FA-39A_Swallow_PNG.png
01:24.48Angrybirds_This is going to be interesting.
01:24.59Angrybirds_Danke.
01:25.11Angrybirds_What do you think the Cloud Hawk will look like?
01:50.51TybusenAngrybirds_: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140720015027/spore/images/f/fe/FA-39B_Cloud_Hawk.png Cloud Hawk
02:00.08TekDroidhttp://i.imgur.com/t85fEzp.png Tried a new generator.
02:00.10Angrybirds_ooooooooooooh that is NICE
02:01.51DrodoEmpireTek: What program did you use for that?
02:01.53Angrybirds_I've got the Swallow in Spore right now.
02:02.13Angrybirds_Cloud Hawk*
02:02.17Angrybirds_Swallow*
02:02.21Angrybirds_I'm getting them mixed up. xD
02:02.28TekDroidDrodoEmpire: http://i.imgur.com/t85fEzp.png
02:02.54DrodoEmpire...That's the image. XD I mean, what did you use to make that image?
02:03.05TekDroidGIMP.
02:03.08DrodoEmpireAh.
02:03.29TekDroid[21:14] <TekDroid> First I made a planet map in a generator, then I mapped it to a sphere in GIMP.
02:03.29TekDroid[21:16] <TekDroid> The ring was made by taking a large gray rectangle, applying an effect in GIMP then mapping that to a sphere, it's shadow was made by shrinking a copy to the planet's size and giving that a shadow.
02:04.03TekDroidThe atmosphere was just simple feathering and fills
02:15.29DrodoEmpiretest
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02:27.43Angrybirds_fraknoi123
02:27.53Angrybirds_I did not just do that.
02:29.09TekDroidI'm going to guess the obvious here?
02:42.52Angrybirds_Tybusen
02:43.19Angrybirds_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:French_Cloud_Hawks.png
02:43.23Angrybirds_You might appreciate this
02:43.47Angrybirds_TekDroid OfficerJackal
02:44.20Angrybirds_I'm an idiot.
02:44.38Angrybirds_Those are Swallows.
02:44.53Angrybirds_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:French_Swallows.png
02:45.08Angrybirds_There ^ OfficerJacakal_ DrodoEmpire Tybusen
02:45.16TekDroidLol
02:45.18Angrybirds_You guys can tell how tired I am. xD
02:45.52TybusenNoic
02:47.14TekDroidLooks cool
02:49.48OfficerJackal_AngryBirds: Looks good! :)
02:50.08OfficerJackal_Angrybirds*
02:50.15OfficerJackal_Angrybirds_*
02:50.18OfficerJackal_FUCK ME RIGHT IN THE PUSSY.
02:52.28Technobliterator...
02:54.41OfficerJackal_I killed Technobliterator. :(
02:57.22Angrybirds_Now she's scarred for life, how dare you.
03:00.42Angrybirds_[[File:French Cloud Hawk.png]]
03:00.42morgothBotPyAngrybirds_ meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:French_Cloud_Hawk.png
03:00.52Angrybirds_-Now- that's a Cloud Hawk.
03:04.33Angrybirds_Tybusen: The Frnech variant changes the aerodynamics/shape of the Cloud Hawk a bit, as well as the cockpit and frontal cannons, but otherwise it's the same plane.
03:07.25TybusenPOTATO - Damn Frenchies thinkin they can change an American icon
03:11.53Angrybirds_France - We made it better u dum
03:13.48Angrybirds_I'm especially proud of that smoke trail.
03:14.43ZillafireThey are very well done.
03:17.20Angrybirds_Danke :)
03:46.47Angrybirds_Tybusen: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:France/French_Army#Strike_Craft
03:51.54TybusenI finally got around to doing it, didn't I? ;)
03:53.59Angrybirds_Yeah, thanks ;D
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04:06.31TybusenI've been really inspired to do Spore things now that I've discovered that my computer can handle Spore on High graphics settings
04:08.11TybusenNow my creations look less like pieces of shit and more like detailed pieces of shit with good shading
04:36.24Angrybirds_lol
04:40.37ZillafireGotta go guys. Cya all later.
04:47.33TekDroidgood night.
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06:17.50AdmiralPandahi all
06:22.28TybusenHai Panda
06:24.26AdmiralPandaso next year I should be starting a video game design course
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07:59.05dino_hellowz
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08:05.20GhelaeHello.
08:05.40Liquid_InkHello
08:07.27dino_how is alld oing?
08:10.18Liquid_InkPretty good
08:21.15AdmiralPandahi all
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08:25.55JepardiHi
08:29.08dino_great to hear
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10:00.53JepardiHi
10:13.59dino_hello
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10:30.14XhoOh England
10:30.28XhoI just watched a video of this guy who was going to jump off a ledge in Trafalgar Square
10:30.41XhoThe police, fire brigade and an ambulance was called
10:30.46XhoThe height of this ledge? Two metres
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10:41.08Liquid_InkWut
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10:41.47Liquid_InkHello
10:41.53Monet_Hello
10:45.18Liquid_InkHow are you?
10:46.21Monet_Pretty good.
10:46.27Monet_Did some maths earlier
10:46.50Liquid_InkI went to the movies to see To Catch a Thief
10:47.56Monet_Was it good?
10:49.40Liquid_InkYes.
10:50.03Liquid_InkI noticed plot points I never noticed on the television.
10:53.05dino_hello monet
10:55.46AdmiralPandahi Monet
11:07.45XhoSalisbury is in Wiltshire? Well I did not know that
11:14.31Xhohttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140720111244/spore/images/7/79/NemesisDreadnought.png Here's the last Dreadnought
11:21.14Monet_Definitely looks like a monster of a vessel
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11:30.46XhoI'm using different military pages on the wiki as a basis for the Kicath's military page
11:30.57XhoSo if anything looks similar it's because of that
11:35.39Monet_I noticed the page layout feels similar to the layout i tried with my ships
12:00.26XhoI did take that hur
12:00.50XhoNeedless to say it was a sufficient layout
12:01.36Monet_I#m glad I could hlep
12:02.06XhoI've got to figure out a ranking system again now
12:02.24XhoI don't want to go down the old ranks like we do in human terminology
12:03.44Monet_I tend to have my DI characters ue the Dracid translation when they mention ranks.
12:03.54Monet_Although it is still fairly close ot human terminology
12:04.00XhoKicathian translation would work but
12:04.02XhoThen again
12:04.03XhoKicathian
12:04.22XhoTagáraimatkisiatøtín is Kicathian for Warlord
12:04.25Monet_Like how Agents always call themselves "Tagrai"
12:04.41XhoTagárai and yeah
12:04.45XhoIt would work for Agents
12:04.59XhoBut Kicathian nomenclature is long winded and borderline unreadable usually
12:05.22XhoI could go along numerical rankings rather than given titles
12:05.45XhoKicath tend to designate things with numbers
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12:08.50Monet_Hello
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12:22.51AdmiralPandaI still find it funny that even you admit your languages are retardedly long-winded, while the Fordanta can describe anything with six syllables :P
12:22.57AdmiralPandaor less, for that matter
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12:24.02AdmiralPandahai oluap
12:24.27OluapPlayerhi
12:25.06AdmiralPandaohgod I'm in so many D&D campaigns I've gotten characters confused
12:26.02Monet_Hi
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12:30.52GhelaeHello.
12:33.00XhoBah now I'm bored
12:33.16OluapPlayerWait until Hachi is here so we can do the Ice Age ending
12:33.51Xhofinally u dum
12:33.57XhoI can use big scary sheep
12:34.05Xhohttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140720111244/spore/images/7/79/NemesisDreadnought.png baa
12:34.38OluapPlayerbig angry sheep
12:35.17Xhohttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719214608/spore/images/3/34/NihilistDreadnought.png And the big scary goat
12:35.52OluapPlayerNihilist Dreadnought Simulator
12:36.09XhoKicath - YOU LIVE        YOU DIE          YOU LIVE          YOU DIE
12:36.19XhoI probably won't use them actually
12:36.30XhoWormy and I kind of evolved them into borderline Tier 1 ships
12:37.37OluapPlayerGoddamn it's just too cold right now
12:37.46XhoToo cold
12:37.51XhoCue it being 23 C
12:37.57OluapPlayer13
12:38.00Xhonoic
12:38.05XhoWish it was 13 right now
12:38.09XhoIt's 19 C where I am and I'm melting
12:38.15OluapPlayerAnd I wish it was 23
12:38.22Xhocuz we all snowmen from snowland
12:38.28Monet_Xho: You mean with the weaponised tractor beam?
12:38.41XhoWell it has a hypercomputer inside it
12:40.21Monet_You should be fine so long as its not comparable to any of the AI Netspace's precursor AIs
12:41.23XhoWell
12:41.31XhoWormy said he was anxious to put it on a DCP ship
12:41.37XhoThen he suggested it to me
12:42.03Monet_...okay maybe it is formidable.
12:42.59Monet_Those precursor AIs use stars and black holes more massive than the sun in order to compute.
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12:43.35Quark8Hello.
12:43.56Monet_In Orion's-Arm terminology they're known as "star-brains"
12:45.27XhoI dunno how this hypercomputer works, Wormy didn't say anything
12:45.49XhoColossal Tier 2 ship that works with a hyperdrive should come up with something
12:46.17Monet_"clarketech" is the best answer I can give.
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12:46.29Wormyhi
12:46.43Monet_Hi, speak of the devil
12:47.12WormyGhelae:  You've probably noticed the range of technologies I'm sneaking into other users fiction
12:47.39GhelaeYou mean like Kicath hypercomputers?
12:48.17WormyYes, and penrose-process singularity cores
12:48.55WormyI'm sure they existed already but weren't described using the process
12:50.12Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10501941_1000044473358339_6832452537836833324_n.jpg
12:50.22Monet_lol
12:51.08Monet_Wormy: I tried performing some mathematics today to see what sizes I may need
12:51.24WormyWhat was the results?
12:52.54WormyGhelae:  Also, I was meaning to ask you.  Given that you found hawking radiation is terribly insufficient, would the black hole you are using to harness have to either be very large, or very small?  Could a cluster of decaying quantum black holes releasing planckphotons be useful as an energy source?
12:53.33Monet_Well from what I found out, Penrose calculated that the maximal energy that could be extracted equated to 29% of the black hole's mass, so I presumed that one solar mass equates to 20% the output of the sun.
12:53.51XhoMy head right now
12:53.53XhoIt isn't
12:54.52WormyThere are only two ways, magitech that defies physics and is ultra powerful, or tech that uses physics to the extremes to be ultra powerful
12:54.54Monet_So I tried to calculate the shwatzchild radius for a black hoel that could give out as much energy as the sun. Unfortunately according to my calculations, such an event horizon would have a radius of 9km
12:55.11Monet_29% the output*
12:55.20GhelaePart of the problem with hawking radiation as a power source is how much energy (presumably a beam of massive particles that can't be converted into useful energy by other means) you need to funnel into the black hole in order to keep it going.
12:56.21WormyWhat about dark matter?  We could use dark matter as an excuse for it being barely harness-able by other means
12:57.05Wormyexcept for gravitech,m and black holes are in gravi-tech category  I would think
12:57.15GhelaeDark matter (or other electrically neutral matter) would remove the issue of the inflowing matter interfering with (and being pushed out of the way by) the outgoing radiation.
12:59.23GhelaeBut, as an example: for a black hole emitting with a peak wavelength of 10^-11 m, it has a power of 2000 J with a radius of only 6.3 x 10^-13 m. If you can concentrate your matter into two beams being fired on opposite sides of the hole, those beams need an energy density of 8 x 10^26 J m^-2.
13:00.55GhelaeSome of that density can be achieved by using kinetic energy, but the faster you accelerate the matter, the more of the hawking radiation you're using to power the black hole's own feedstock.
13:02.12GhelaeUnit correction: that should have been power density of 8 x 10^26 W m^-2.
13:02.24Wormy<PROTECTED>
13:03.25WormyBut as you said, because those neutrons will be moving quickly, it'd be powering the black hole
13:04.22GhelaeThat might not be a fatal flaw, but it will reduce the efficiency.
13:05.24GhelaeNow, calculating NDM as having a density of 4 x 10^17 kg m^-3, travelling at 1 m/s would give an energy flux of 3.6 x 10^34 W m^-2, which is more than sufficient.
13:05.29WormyI imagine extracting the NDM, and containing it until unleashing it on the black hole would be a tremendous amount of energy used in an of itself
13:05.49GhelaeTo clear that up, the density of NDM isn't what I calculated there.
13:06.58Xhodis not english
13:07.04XhoDIS NOT ENGLISH
13:07.55GhelaeTwo beams of neutronium at a little over 2 m/s would be enough to sustain a black hole which emits gamma rays of a 10 pm wavelength.
13:08.02Monet_Xho: This. IS. MATHS!
13:08.05OluapPlayerhttp://s24.postimg.org/jjmsoamg5/1405840176159.jpg
13:08.52GhelaeNow the problems are: a) getting neutronium into such beams (bosons are better that), and b) harnessing 10 pm gamma radiation for energy.
13:09.09GhelaeAlso, the black hole has a mass of 4.23 x 10^12 kg.
13:10.08WormyI was going to suggest putting these harvesters on the neutron star itself, but then stopping the neutron star and black hole colliding may take as much energy.  So maybe connecting both via a wormhole?
13:10.46XhoOluapPlayer: The truth has been spoken
13:11.15dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/CKnlXZW
13:11.18GhelaeThe neutron star's gravity will still pass through the wormhole, so either the black hole will pass through the wormhole too or the black hole will consume the wormhole's mouth on its end.
13:12.23GhelaeThat being said, the black hole will still last for 2x10^14 years before fully evaporating.
13:12.35XhoMany years
13:12.44GhelaeSo perhaps we shouldn't focus too much on feeding it after all.
13:12.48XhoStill not enough years for Hachi to update his pages however
13:12.56WormyWell, I meant at a sufficient distance and possibly repelled by the charge of both holes, though of course, the beam would lose efficiency as the neutrons decay and spread out
13:13.52GhelaeHowever, if there is a minimum wavelength of light that you can convert into useful energy, then you'll need to feed the black hole to keep most of its radiation above that threshold.
13:14.40OluapPlayerlel
13:14.54OluapPlayerSpeaking of which the rp is gonna take a while, Hachi's going out again
13:15.07XhoBah
13:15.46WormyI suppose if you got over the two challenges, the technology could be useful in some specialist aspects.
13:16.11OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/v/1405859810674.png my reaction was pretty much this
13:16.20dromhttp://i.imgur.com/DegRrls.png
13:16.30XhoOluapPlayer: My sides
13:16.37WormyI imagine a black hole might be very useful in the degenerate and black hole eras to incredibly slow-thinking and gigantic minds.
13:16.55WormyBut Gigaquadrant civilisations aren't so slow
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13:17.58WormyAlso, when me and Monet were discussing the penrose process, I came across an idea
13:18.37ImpyDroidNice, I'm in Greece again :P
13:18.47Monet_Hello
13:18.57Monet_ImpyDroid: How come you're in Greece?
13:19.18WormyBasically, the Draconis smartforms (those weird programmable lumps of matter) achieve enough free-will to not sacrifice themselves to the event horizon.  Given that they are tough enough to survive the ergosphere, do you think it could a habitat for them?
13:19.54WormyI imagined a crush of exotic matter forming around the black hole and the DI scientists scratching their heads
13:19.58Wormy*crust
13:20.14GhelaeIf they could get enough energy to survive, I guess so.
13:20.22ImpyDroidMonet: Vacation
13:20.27Ghelae~give ImpyDroid a cookie
13:20.27infobotACTION gives ImpyDroid a home-baked fortune cookie to cheer him up.
13:21.02Monet_ImpyDroid: I'd love ot rtavel as much as you do
13:21.40GhelaeFor Hawking radiation harnessing, I think the balance is between mass, peak wavelength (proportional to mass) and power (inversely proportional to mass squared).
13:22.17Monet_http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140720122325/spore/images/a/ae/Senvinusreactor1.png http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140720131936/spore/images/b/b0/Draconid_Singularity_Core.png s[eaking of which, I made models
13:22.19ImpyDroidCrete's an interesting place in veneral
13:22.40ImpyDroidI mean it's one of the inspirations for Atlantis isn't it
13:22.41GhelaeHigh power and low mass correspond to each other, so the main problem is how small a wavelength can you harness?
13:22.47XhoEven their ship interiors are fancy
13:23.01WormyIt sounds like its slightly more an engineering difficulty to achieve the balance than finding new physics to explain how to extract it efficiently.
13:23.22WormyHarnessing those wavelengths does sound like a more pressing physics issue though
13:23.34Monet_Xho: Draconis - Posh out of every orifice.
13:24.37GhelaePerhaps high-energy photons could be used to trigger pair production, and the resulting antimatter collected for energy storage?
13:24.57dromXho: http://imgur.com/gallery/Sas7Mxi
13:24.57WormyWhat if the energy wasn't to be captured for used on-location?  I.e. energies reaching almost hypermatter-reactor levels for use in metric engineering onsite
13:25.04WormyThat too
13:25.30XhoDrom: About right
13:25.45WormyMight be inside a quantum replicator
13:25.51ImpyDroidMonet_: I wonder, what is tbat thing made from?
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13:25.59Zmr56Hi there
13:26.05GhelaeHello.
13:26.11Wormyhi
13:26.19dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/TA8ytuF
13:26.22Monet_Impydroid: The singularity core?
13:26.23dromHey zmr56.
13:26.27ImpyDroidYa
13:26.32GhelaeOf course, if we have a problem with harnessing short-wavelength photons from a black hole, we'll have the same problem with hypermatter power too.
13:26.42ImpyDroidWell what materials the Draconis use in their engineering in general
13:26.49GhelaeI say "of course"; that thought literally only just occured to me.
13:26.58Zmr56drom: hey
13:27.14Monet_I imagine because of the tidal forces it's held together with a monopolium framework.
13:27.35Monet_Perhaps lined with a bit of negative mass to confine the gravity well
13:28.07GhelaeFor pair production, the shortest harnessable wavelength is that corresponding to double the mass-energy of the heaviest charged subatomic particle you can store (as any excess energy will be kinetic and making storing them difficult).
13:29.38GhelaeAbout 2.64 x 10^-15 m for protons, assuming you can pair-produce protons and antiprotons with reasonable efficiency.
13:29.48Monet_I've wondered if penrose-process generators are more common for medium-to-lege scale energy production than hypermatter reactors. Perhaps on the basis that there's less chance or severity of catastrophic explosions.
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13:30.16GhelaeHello.
13:30.21Monet_Hello
13:30.25CyrannianHello!
13:30.27Monet_Well, more common within the Imperium
13:31.08WormyWell, hypermatter seems to be part of the growing revolution in technology.  And I imagine the tier scale ascends in steps, so that things like black hole harvesting may well predate any hypermatter foundries
13:32.03WormyCyrannian hypermatter cores might come from precursor technology as implied by the Cognatus
13:32.40GhelaeMaybe you could surround the hawking-radiating black hole (or hypermatter extractor) with quark-gluon plasma; the radiation triggers pair production within the plasma, and then antiparticles can somehow be removed from near the surface, perhaps positrons from the decay of positively-charged hadrons.
13:32.41Monet_I think with this stuff and wormhole generators the Imperium has something of a knack for spacetime technology.
13:33.35WormyThat sounds like it could work
13:33.41Monet_Cyrannian: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140720131936/spore/images/b/b0/Draconid_Singularity_Core.png http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140720122325/spore/images/a/ae/Senvinusreactor1.png
13:33.51GhelaeIf that would work, then both hawking radiation and hypermatter power are actually means of generating huge (near-limitless, for hypermatter) quantities of antiparticles.
13:34.16CyrannianVery impressive, the first one reminds me of the Romulan singularity core in STO.
13:34.43Monet_Those things were an inspiration, yes.
13:35.04Monet_Although I decided those cool gtrscopic arms were mroe useful on the second one.
13:35.12Monet_gyroscopic rings*
13:35.44WormyI wouldn't like to stand near that thing
13:36.19Wormyjust encase it faults
13:37.10WormyMind you, dealing with such energies, if there is a fault it would never have left the construction yard
13:37.50Monet_Knowing the Draconsi there's probably one or two redandant systems built-in.
13:38.02Monet_Or failsafes
13:38.57WormyGhelae:  I just had another untested/un-calculated idea
13:39.33Monet_Wormy: Good thing we know the tendencies in engineering of the faction that designed it.
13:40.22WormyIf the black hole's gravity (which it indeed would seem to) can get through the wormhole, then would constructing wormholes around the black hole and extending them basically extend the reach of its event horizon?  Imagine spacetime collapsing closely to the event horizon around the wormhole throats
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13:40.57GhelaeHello.
13:40.59WormyOf course, the wormholes would be consumed, but one could imagine wormhole factories
13:41.02TekDroidHello
13:41.22Monet_Draconis - You have us intrigued
13:41.47GhelaeThat sounds like it might work, assuming the wormhole throat wasn't destroyed as soon as it hit the event horizon.
13:41.55Ghelaeas soon as one of the mouths*
13:41.56WormyAnd if the wormholes get dragged in the rotation of the black hole, you'll get http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Membrane_paradigm
13:43.00GhelaeI suppose it would be equivalent to using a wormhole to transfer some of the black hole's mass outside the event horizon to the location of the second mouth.
13:43.06WormyIt could simply be very close and held at the ergosphere using tech like those smartforms.  Anything thats not those smartforms will not be able to escape
13:43.18WormyYeah, thats the idea
13:43.37ImpyDroidMonet_: BTW
13:43.50ImpyDroidnvm brb
13:43.54WormyThere was an episode of Stargate where a wormhole gets attached to a black hole almost destroying Earth
13:44.04GhelaeTo extend the event horizon, the wormhole mouth would need to go inside the event horizon.
13:45.24GhelaeAt least, I assume so. Perhaps if the first mouth is just outside the horizon, and the second mouth is heavy enough that it plus the black hole makes for an event horizon around the second mouth...
13:45.35WormyI think we may have a means in the SporeWikiverse, that DCP imp that simulated Alice from that firewall thought experiment had to dip into the horizon
13:46.11WormyThat sounds intringuing
13:47.52GhelaeNo; considering it some more, I think that would mean that the wormhole mouth would need to be heavy enough to be a black hole on its own.
13:48.44Monet_Wormy: If you're okay with it, I could consider adding smartforms to the DI's tech page.
13:49.09GhelaeAlthough I'm far from certain. On the other option, I'd be suprised if nobody had tried to calculate what happens if you put a wormhole mouth into an event horizon.
13:49.23Monet_SInce it includes metamaterials, I suppose smartform material could be used ot add flexibility to armour withotu compromising resilience.
13:49.39WormyThats fine, I was thinking of introducing that terminology yesterday
13:50.00Wormy"Smart form" means anything sentient that may or may NOT be living.
13:50.20Monet_I do have a keen interest in programmable matter, like memory plastics.
13:54.48OluapPlayerMonet_: http://i.cubeupload.com/4OIFBe.png hope your dorfs aren't lactose intolerant
13:55.16Monet_Best. Cloud. Ever.
13:55.29TekDroidO.o
13:55.29OluapPlayerStill, honey vapour
13:55.32OluapPlayerThat sounds disgusting
13:55.42TekDroidmilk and honey vapour.
13:56.09TekDroidhands out bowls of cereal
13:56.23Monet_Honey vapour sounds disgusting but look on the bright side: Air tastes like sugar!
13:56.43OluapPlayerAll dorfs eventually get diabetes from breathing
13:56.45Monet_Air. that tastes. Like sugar!
13:57.12TekDroidIt's great weather for people who like honey and milk in their tea. :P
13:57.26OluapPlayerI'm reading about people commenting on succubus civilizations on their games. I take this is a new feature of the new version
13:58.01OluapPlayerThey're commenting on how these civs have names like "The Demons of Squirting" and "The Steely Anuses"
13:58.31WormyI might create a list later, on tech thats working on known principles (up to Tier 2) and tech that exceeds into Clarktech
13:58.33Monet_Hot dayumn
13:58.47WormyAnd an imbetween zone
13:59.34OluapPlayerOne guy commented on how goblins attacked his fort. "They charged into my 40+ animal large pen and got swarmed. One of them got scratched in the toe and the Goblins were so horrified of the puppies they left."
14:00.26CyrannianSince I took the name "Caprica" directly from BSG, does anyone have any suggestions for a more original (though similar) name?
14:01.01Monet_Callista?
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14:01.15XhoCaevricia, Casila, Caeprinas...etc
14:01.23CyrannianPreferably something that is still based on the word "Capricorn"
14:01.24GhelaeWormy: Will this be a modification of the technology list that you've already made?
14:01.37WormyI guess it would be
14:02.10WormyThough less organised by physics type
14:02.21WormySince its all inter-connected really
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14:03.06WormySome hypercomputer  proposals for example use metric engineering
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14:04.05Sporeraptorhi
14:04.29TekDroidHello
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14:27.40Wormy_Monet__ Did you get my last message?
14:28.04Wormy_We are being timed out on purpose by our enslavers
14:28.21Monet__I got your last two messages
14:28.24Wormy_[15:21] <Wormy> Hehe maybe there are secret forcing dulling their innovation and thought like in the vfilm They Live I watch  15:21] <Wormy> watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inZUDMGJsKo
14:28.28Wormy_just to be sure
14:28.41Wormy_Time me out this time you reptiles!
14:29.22Monet__That film was the source of "I'm here to kick arse and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of gum"
14:29.40Wormy_yep
14:29.43Wormy_I loved it
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14:30.35dino_hellowz
14:30.58Monet__Hello
14:31.08dino_:D
14:31.14Angrybirds_Hey! :D
14:31.16Monet__Duke Nukem is the conglomoration of every 80s action movie protagonist in history.
14:32.22Sporeraptorhi
14:32.38dino_Go Duke Nukum!
14:33.13Wormy_Gave you seen They Live?
14:33.42dino_?
14:34.12Monet__Staring Rowdy Roddy Piper!
14:35.12dino_nope
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14:35.29Wormy_David Icke thinks the supermassive black holes of every galaxy beam information via hawking radiation into our bodies and decoded into our minds so that the alien black hole programmers can control us we are being planned ahead from 25 million years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwgX7paOgLg
14:35.41Wormy_Makes a great sci-fi story
14:41.25TekDroidInteresting thought.
14:43.43Wormy_Hm, could someone send me a pastie of the entire black hole conversation, I timed out and forgot
14:44.03Wormy_I also can't seem to unzip the archives now they need unzipping
14:44.09dino_oh nice owrmy!
14:44.14Monet__Wormy_: Same
14:44.31Wormy_Please
14:44.36Wormy_I BEG YOU
14:44.50Wormy_From beginning to end
14:45.01Monet__Predetermining what we are to do fro m25 million years ago feels a bit convoluted
14:45.22Wormy_I like to keep all physics conversations for future reference
14:45.47Monet__It reminds me of the martian plot on the recent War of the Worlds to bury their tripods underneath the site of every future Earth city to oen day harvest us
14:46.01Monet__This was 1 million years ago
14:46.02Wormy_scary
14:46.17Wormy_How'd they know where we will build cities
14:46.47Wormy_ah they herded us
14:49.04Wormy_10 Weirdest Apps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxUPYvXZag8
14:49.08Wormy_9 saounds useful
14:49.18Cyrannianhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140720144835/spore/images/a/a1/AmphryssosCampaign06.png - Upcoming battle in the Amphryssos Campaign
14:49.59Monet__Wormy_: Yeah that's what i'm wondering - how did they know where we were going t osettle when homo sapiens sapiens did not exist a millino years ago.
14:56.35Wormy_No need to copy/paste for me and Monet Ghelae has done it for us
14:59.04Monet__I'm wondering what categories of "write what you know" each of us follow.
15:00.12Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Cyrannian_War/Year_One/Amphryssos_Campaign#Long_Lost_Cousins - ze big battle. Take a look
15:01.15AdmiralPandaMonet_: I don't write much of what I know, so can't really help you there :P
15:02.10Monet__AdmiralPanda: What about your HEMA knowledge?
15:02.21Monet__That shows up in your work.
15:02.36AdmiralPandaOccasionally, but with increasing rarity
15:03.21AdmiralPandaIf I may take a moment to be unashamedly full of self-pity, power creep sorta strangled my style out of the fiction univers
15:04.01dino_oh nice
15:05.28AdmiralPandaadmittedly, aside from In Better Times, my proudest moment in the fiction universe is that Hel'Bre'K's plan to defeat the Tyranny had nothing to do with strength of arms or fancy technology, it was good old fashioned positioning
15:06.40dino_so the republica is cmoing eh?
15:07.54CyrannianIndeed. I'm also going to be making a few more crewmembers for it, since it's pretty empty right now. :P
15:08.40SporeraptorLooks pretty good, I really like the battle picture.
15:12.43CyrannianI'm planning on an indirect sequel featuring Apollo and the Oikoumene AI the Adjunct.
15:13.36Wormy_awayI've still got that block universe story to do lol involving that
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15:14.38CyrannianMaybe we could merge them?
15:14.43OfficerJackalHello!
15:14.59CyrannianHi
15:15.23GhelaeHello.
15:15.37Wormy_awayYes, that would make it easier
15:15.46Wormy_awayMaking up characters bores me
15:15.54Wormy_awayjust for particular stories
15:18.33Wormy_awaybbl
15:26.06TekDroid~test
15:26.06infobotrumour has it, test is not funny
15:27.53TekDroidLol, I pulled up a simple little relativity simulation I made a while back. Fairly simple but it did get all the important stuff. XD
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15:38.20TekDroidHello
15:40.39Monet__Hi
15:42.05TekDroidI uploaded this image twelve hours ago and it's still two versions behind. -.-
15:43.35TekDroidDoes thing have rings or the starry background for anyone? http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140720022455/spore/images/0/04/Farengeto_%28planet%29.png
15:44.25Monet__nope
15:45.18TekDroidDamn.
15:45.34Monet__http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/08/22/china-bans-reincarnation-_n_61444.html At first I thought this msut have been a crazy joke but no
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15:47.11XhoMonet_: I've been looking at Morphis Rises' beginning sentence
15:47.15Xho'For over 200,000 years the Dracons have been skeptical about the use of cybernetics, the idea of replacing flesh with cold, emotionless steel seemed unnatural'
15:47.21XhoKicath - bah go with the flow
15:47.53Monet__Draconis - Look at your agents though.
15:48.03XhoAgents - yeh
15:49.06Monet__Although this statement has been changing thanks to Morphis
15:49.30Monet__Most of the ITN's marines and ground forces are probably nanotch cyborgs by now
15:49.51ImpyDroidHi
15:50.12Monet__Hi
15:50.40ImpyDroidToday I learned that "buxom" actually meant "flexible"
15:51.22ImpyDroidAlso Monet__
15:51.32Monet__Yes?
15:51.46ImpyDroidYou know why I asked you earlier this day about the materials the Imperium uses in construction and engineering?
15:52.40Monet__You wanted to know how the Imperium is able to build in locations like around a black hole?
15:52.52ImpyDroidI mean in general
15:53.16ImpyDroidI just realised: since Draconis technology is advanced enough to give materials whatever properties and appearance they so desire, they could in theory make starships out of *marble* or something like that
15:53.39ImpyDroidWell, something resembling marble
15:53.48Monet__That is entirely possible.
15:53.52ImpyDroidFor additional poshness and Roman-ness hur
15:54.13Monet__After all they put gold on everything when gold is both heavy and soft.
15:54.22XhoKicath - y u do dis
15:54.32Monet__So maybe they use something that looks like gold?
15:54.54XhoKicath - but y
15:55.06Monet__Draconis - Sophistication.
15:55.12ImpyDroidYa
15:55.23XhoKicath - look at our ships                do dey hav gold on dem
15:55.56Monet__Draconis - No...
15:56.42XhoI can imagine the Kicath don't understand the idea of multiple colours
15:56.50XhoThey're usually limited to two
15:57.04XhoAlmost 100% of the time one of them is black
15:57.05Monet__Draconis - But...gold is a lovely colour
15:57.09AdmiralPandaGrey and slightly darker grey?
15:57.13XhoThat too
15:57.20AdmiralPanda:P
15:57.25XhoKicath do wear gold
15:57.29XhoSuch as their imperial guards
15:57.58AdmiralPandaI'm pretty sure that if someone went back and looked at all the times we've talked, at least 80% of the time it'd be me criticising something about a part of your fiction.
15:58.00Xhohttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140319113750/spore/images/c/c9/GenIVImperialArmour.png Here
15:58.12XhoThat's not really a good thing hur
15:58.28AdmiralPandaNot really, no
15:59.39Monet__Well, iron pyrite is visually similar to gold
16:00.04ImpyDroidXho: Maybe they are partialy colourblind?
16:00.08XhoThey could be
16:00.24XhoKicath probably don't see shades of yellow
16:00.38XhoThey see shades of purple and blue but probably not yellow
16:01.01XhoRather ironic since the Kicath's most common eye colour is yellow
16:01.23Monet__Kicath - Your grey eyes are beautiful dear...
16:01.34ImpyDroidOr perhaps they could be *too* sensitive to colours so they see any colour that is not dull as acid trip-level bright
16:01.40XhoI'm not sure how the Kicath would perceive yellow
16:01.59XhoImpyDroid: They use cyan a lot remember
16:02.19ImpyDroidTrue
16:02.57Monet__MAybe warm colours are synonymous with acid trips?
16:03.25ImpyDroidWhile we're at it I should probably explain why all Divinarium structures and ships are black and purple
16:03.32ImpyDroidThe Emo Ships
16:03.52XhoPossibly, though Zeta wears golden armour
16:04.29Monet__Zeta - You're all jealous because of by rainbow-grey pimp armour!
16:04.36Angrybirds_American aircraft adopted by the French: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:France/French_Army#Strike_Craft
16:05.05XhoPaclernos as a planet doesn't vary in colour much
16:05.46XhoThe ground is a reddish brown, the skies are teal and the sea is colourless
16:05.56XhoIf not slightly yellow
16:06.18XhoWell that's what they get for living on a vitriolic planet
16:07.23Monet__Draconid settlements must look wierd to them then, all that ocean blue, scarlet, marble white and gold
16:07.37XhoKicath - wtf is dis             Draconis - culture           Kicath - i hate it
16:09.34XhoCan someone give me a quote for the Agency in general
16:09.35Monet__Draconis - You're just jealous you evolved on a death world.
16:09.58XhoThat works
16:09.59Xhohur
16:10.04OluapPlayer"my favorite toy company" -Santorakh
16:10.20Monet__That wasn't the quote I planned lol
16:12.11Monet__"They are the last word in enforcing order. When they are deployed, nothing that stands in their way survives."
16:12.19XhoBetter hur
16:13.54Monet__Xho: I was asking the other day if anyone had any suggestions for a top quote for the Draconis page. I've had a couple so far but do you have any suggestions?
16:14.00XhoHm
16:14.28Angrybirds_Monet_ You can use Valéry's wealth and power quote. xD
16:17.00TechnobliteratorCyrannian, can I edit the Orbispira page for one sec to test something?
16:17.40CyrannianSure
16:18.16Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Orbispira more efficient code
16:18.19Technobliteratorrvt if you don't like
16:19.21XhoAnyone got a quote for the Dark Guard now
16:19.31XhoDark Guard being those Kicath in black armour who follow House Aknatazán around
16:19.59CyrannianI think I like the insignia on either side of the name, though is there a way to get rid of "Planet" at the top?
16:20.16Technobliteratorwould do, but I no longer have characters that can quote except Loron
16:20.18Technobliteratorthere is
16:20.53Technobliterator|supertitle=
16:20.56Technobliteratorfill nothing in
16:20.59Monet__I like the "planet" as it feels nice for categorical reasons
16:21.00XhoWell the only one who can is Monet since his characters are the only ones to have met the Dark Guard
16:21.31Monet__Gimem a moment. Something will come.
16:21.40Technobliteratorthe text at the top is meant to be there for, as Monet said, categorical reasons, BUT it can be moved elsewhere on the box
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16:27.00Monet__"When I gaze upon these Kicath, I am overwhelmed with a sense of disturbance. I do not know what it is, but something tells me they are...not suppsoed to be."
16:27.18Xhogud
16:27.31XhoIs that by any individual or
16:27.43Monet__If you'd like a name hmm. Ambassador Teleya Santanis?
16:28.06XhoThat will do
16:29.40Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kicath/Military Slight expansion
16:30.18XhoThe Dark Guard rarely ever make an appearance since you don't come across other Aknatazán Kicath other than Kithworto
16:33.12OluapPlayerPit Nu against them
16:33.22XhoNu would win considering he can't die hur
16:33.48OluapPlayerNu - mor liek red guard with all dat blood
16:34.01XhoKithworto - wat r u doin
16:34.27Technobliteratorinfoboxes now have rounded corners
16:34.30Technobliteratorexperimental
16:35.11OluapPlayerThat's not entirely round
16:35.24Monet__You can still see the pointed corners
16:35.29OluapPlayerYeah
16:35.38Monet__The rounded and edged corners look conflicting
16:36.52Monet__I think I'll change the Blood Dragon Empyrean Guard to the "Empyrean Cohort"
16:37.32Monet__Sounds a little more fitting give nthey're the paragon's bodyguards.
16:38.48Technobliteratorit is not doable
16:38.56Technobliteratorit cannot determine what the bottom row is
16:38.58Technobliteratorremoved
16:46.20Monet__Xho: Looks good.
16:47.33Monet__The army is certainly expansive
16:50.19Monet__Normally I'd wonder how the Dark Guard may fare aginst the Blood Dragons but if they're Death Energy Kicath, might be a bit one-sided.
16:50.27Cyrannianhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140720164958/spore/images/f/f7/RepublicaCrew.png - The crew of the CRS Republica.
16:50.39OluapPlayerMu - y u do dis
16:50.55XhoNu - ur too dum to join dark guard
16:50.59Cyrannianwhoops, forgot one
16:51.07OluapPlayerCyrannian: yey Leonarrk is there
16:51.35OluapPlayerThere goes the thing about Mu being the only Death Energy Kicath other than Kithworto I guess
16:51.51Xho*Lots* of Kicath have Death Energy
16:51.58Cyrannianbrb dinner
16:52.02Xho*Lots* of Kicath have Life Energy as well
16:52.58Monet__There was a segment Xho and I did where Oniron Voxis encountered a coupe lof the Dark Guard.
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17:01.19ImpyDroidHi
17:01.47Zmr56Hi
17:02.05Monet__Hi
17:09.29ImpyDroidMet a Welsh family in Greece
17:09.34ImpyDroidThey have a weird accent hur
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17:14.17dromg'day
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17:22.30dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/ARKkKQu
17:23.12XhoMonet__: I've completed the rail
17:23.37Monet__Phew. That's one concern out of the way, nice work.
17:23.47Technobliterator1_What's the difference between Paul Walker and a computer? I give a fuck when my computer crashes.
17:23.49Technobliteratorhahahaha
17:24.08Technobliteratorwow this is just
17:24.17Technobliteratorincredibly offensive but I can't help but laugh at some
17:24.19TechnobliteratorI am evil
17:25.00drom37_How many cops does it take to change a light bulb? They don't. They arrest the bulb for being broke and beat the room for being
17:25.00dromblack.
17:25.37dromNeither do I.
17:25.58Technobliteratorsome of these are just too far
17:26.02Technobliteratorbut that's the point I guess
17:28.15Wormy_awayIs Paul Walker a Turing Machine?  It will crash too.
17:28.30Wormy_awayThats what I would question (I'm only joking lol)
17:29.02dino_:d
17:29.03OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/DegRrls.png
17:29.10Wormy_awayBlue Screen of Death - computer encounters unsolvable problem so crashes itself before it loops forever
17:29.24dromThe jew ones are "ouch"-tastic.
17:29.37Wormy_awayinsane maths and physics working there
17:33.15OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/mMWqnqu.png Tumblr manages to be both a gold mine and a shithole at the same time
17:33.35Wormy_awayI just want to say, I find epistemology, theory of computation and complexity most interesting lately perhaps even more than geology or theoretical physics
17:33.38dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/Oi1ee
17:34.00Monet__http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140720173244/spore/images/2/26/Segmentum_Draco_Map_Beta.jpg well it's taken me a while to work out but here's a map of the Imperium's Segmentum Draco holdings.
17:34.19Wormy_awayThree problems computers can never solve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u58DY1uKo5o
17:34.40OluapPlayerderes muh burds
17:35.06Wormy_awayThe crazy thing is how human brains have proved these theorems to be undecidable, it could mean minds are not computational.
17:36.34Monet__I trudged though my "territories" section and looked at various characters to see what star systems I had mentioned
17:45.30Wormy_awayI sure hope this isn't the methane clathrates melting http://www.nbcnews.com/science/weird-science/scientists-probe-depths-mysterious-hole-siberia-n159846
17:46.11Wormy_awayClimate change is self-amplifying, it will release more methane, warming the atmosphere, melting more methane traps
17:46.23Wormy_awayI learned about this on my geology degree
17:47.09Wormy_awayScientists and geoengineers have warned about this for years, it is the theme of that book Transcendence Monet__
17:48.10Monet__I remember. And even as the poles melted and the methane traps released such dangerous gases some people -still- shrugged it off as utter rubbish
17:49.49Wormy_awayhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis
17:52.30Wormy_awayI'm googling the locations
17:53.10Wormy_awaySee if the sinkhole is near the large methane hydrates
17:55.04dromNew entry under "Corvettes". http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Naakjian_Confederation/Military#Space
17:56.02Zmr56ooh nice ship
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17:59.16Wormy_awayH, the Yamal Peninsula looks to be outside the largest deposits http://geology.com/articles/methane-hydrates/
17:59.33Wormy_awayBut if it is global warming, it is not a good sign.
18:02.14dromhttp://i.imgur.com/U9p74Tj.png
18:02.36Wormy_awayLol yes
18:03.06Wormy_awayBrits are such contradiction.
18:04.27Wormy_awayOne way we are really anarchic with punks and walking on any side of the road, yet we don't like change.  When my lesson changed theatre the students didn't think about walking to the next one and waited half an hour
18:05.37ImpyDroidHeh, the Russians are kinda contradictory too
18:06.56dromhttp://i.imgur.com/Itf2Fuq.png?1
18:07.13ImpyDroidOur classical literature, music and cinema are among the most sophisticated in the world
18:08.43ImpyDroidYet in our daily lives we are basically Orks hur
18:09.48dromhttp://i.imgur.com/mTKMA3e.png
18:11.01Wormy_awayI find it quite hard to reconcile all the subcultures of Britain
18:11.04ImpyDroidBTW, I wanted to ask
18:11.25ImpyDroidHow distinct are the Welsh/Scottish from the English
18:11.44ImpyDroidI mean in terms of culture, appearance etc
18:11.49Wormy_awayExtremely
18:12.22Wormy_awayIn Scotland, there is a huge emphasis on identity, you have the word Scottish before everything
18:12.46Wormy_awayBut its more than that, Welsh and Scottish have more celtic ancestry and language
18:13.09Monet__Interestingly, even if English is your native tongue, I have yet to meet a scot who doesn't sound Scottish.
18:13.31Wormy_awayIn the 70's the Welsh and English didn't get on well at all, houses were burned even
18:14.10Wormy_awayNorthen Wales and Southern Wales don't get on with each other because South Wales was more open to the English or something - I heard this from a Welsh farmer
18:14.21Wormy_awayfrom North Wales
18:14.37Wormy_awayBut he was okay with English he is a very nice man
18:16.38Wormy_awayThere are lots of subcultures as well
18:16.58Wormy_awayand class divisions, which is as much cultural
18:17.10Wormy_awayWorking class people think and act differently to middle class
18:17.37Wormy_awayThen you get county and town differences
18:18.06Wormy_awayDerbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Staffordshire and Yorkshire all have different indentities despite being close
18:18.32Wormy_awayThen you get subcultures like chavs, punks etc.
18:18.44Wormy_awayand snobs
18:19.29Wormy_awayI don't know why foreigners think we all speak with BBC accents and watch cricket and wear bowler hats when only a tiny elitist minority does
18:20.31dromtea drinking elitists and pee-pee-pants drunks are our vision on englishmen.
18:20.44Wormy_awaythats why I find this funny somehow it adds up to http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2012/1/23/1327336607596/Europa-Brit-seen-by-Frenc-001.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mTKMA3e.png
18:20.53Angrybirds_I think this is about finished! :D We'd like some feedback if you guys have any thoughts: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gigaquadrantic_Intergalactic_Trade_Organization
18:21.41Wormy_awayThere you go http://www.sickchirpse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/British-Class-Divide-.jpg
18:22.14Wormy_awayIt seems only the first and last reach international consciousness
18:23.16dromAngrybirds_: Another economic network to distabilize!
18:23.30dromlets out an evil laughter and rubs hands*
18:23.50Monet__Oh its more than a trade network
18:24.24dromThe kicathan imports and exports nothing...
18:24.40Monet__Yeah Xho needs to fill that in
18:26.55ImpyDroidWormy_away: So the relationships between the Welsh and the English are similar to those of the Russians and the Ukrainians?
18:27.10Wormy_awayYeah
18:27.14Wormy_awayWell
18:27.18Wormy_awayIt is less violent now
18:27.46Wormy_awayBut in the early-mid 20th century things like houses being burned and racism was not unknown
18:27.56ImpyDroidWow
18:28.04dromWormy_away how about the scottish people?
18:28.22Wormy_awayDepends
18:28.31Monet__Some scots want independance
18:28.56Wormy_awayI know that the Highlanders fell out with the Southern Scots for intergrating with England
18:29.06Wormy_awayBut that was a long time ago
18:29.17Wormy_awayScottish nationalism does exist to this day
18:29.58Wormy_awayWhen I went to Arran on a uni trip last year our lecturer warned us not to upset the Scots especially over football
18:30.04XhoNot quite sure what the Kicath's main imports would be
18:30.15dromZmr56: I just came to a realisation. NC = Finland. Mardvaeli = Estland.
18:30.22XhoRaw materials is a given
18:30.30Monet__Xho: Media perhaps?
18:30.38XhoSuppose so
18:30.48Wormy_awayImpyDroid:  Funny advert asbout a Scottish dad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UprxM_aBWk
18:30.50ImpyDroidKicath noir movies hur
18:30.57Zmr56looks up Estland
18:30.58ImpyDroidOr wait that's export
18:31.27Wormy_awayBut tbh, I've only ever met nice people in Scotland and Wales most are quite open/friendly now
18:31.29dromZmr56: Actually Estonia.
18:31.55dromI just went full swedglish
18:32.20Zmr56explain dis
18:32.34Wormy_awayYou might still get some Welsh people refusing to speak English to you.  This happened to my grandmother who heard the shopkeepers speaking English until she went to buy something
18:32.58Wormy_awayAnd I saw a "No English allowed sign" in Wales once
18:33.07Wormy_awayon a path with a barrier
18:33.20dromZmr56: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Forever_Estonia.png
18:33.41XhoRight, added their stuff
18:33.45Zmr56You nailed it
18:35.40Monet__Xho: Any progress with a galactic commerce capital for Borealis?
18:35.50XhoLemme come up with a name
18:36.01XhoThough technically now their political centre is Paclernos again
18:36.19XhoI dunno about their economic centre
18:36.36XhoCould be Borealis or Milky Way
18:36.53Monet__We already have a commerce capital for the Milky Way
18:37.23XhoHm
18:37.49Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:CRS_Republica#Crew - Finished adding crewmembers
18:38.51Monet__Xho: The idea is that every galaxy GITO has in its influence one planet is selected to adminsitrate all commerce in that galaxy. For example Paris is the heart of GITO operations and transactions in the Milky Way
18:39.00XhoRight
18:39.06XhoLemme think of planet name then
18:39.36XhoIf it's in Borealis it's likely to have a Borealis Kicathian name to it
18:39.46dromhttp://i.imgur.com/19zvyoa.png
18:39.47Monet__That's fine
18:39.59OluapPlayerCyrannian: Interesting to see both a Nasvere and a Caprigrox
18:40.54XhoDzaranäo 2 could work for a planet name
18:41.11CyrannianThanks, I also added that he was in the Confederacy during the Neraida attacks of the GCW that you wrote.
18:41.30dromhttp://i.imgur.com/oh5x6jD.jpg
18:42.06ImpyDroidCyrannian: BTW I just realised
18:42.11OluapPlayer"Doctor Tentacles"
18:42.13OluapPlayerrape
18:42.23ImpyDroid"Neraida" is modern Greek for "fairy" or "nymph"
18:42.40ImpyDroidWas that the intended meaning of their name?
18:43.03Monet__Xho: Any thoughts on a population?
18:43.09CyrannianThat might have been where I got the name, though I honestly forget.
18:43.11Monet__population size
18:43.44XhoWell, it's like to be a Kicathian ecumenopolis due to its significance
18:43.54Xholikely*
18:44.28XhoSo probably anywhere between 1.5 - 2.5 trillion
18:44.41dromI wonder. Which ship would be one of the most wanted by other nations in the Naakji's arsenal.
18:45.02dromZmr56: Which one would Mardvaeli desire?
18:45.06Zmr56is going to browse some Naakji ships
18:47.15Xho2,186,983,926,453 is a number I got randomly generated here
18:47.24XhoSo 2.19 trillion
18:47.34Zmr56I'm interested in some Eekliits and Maa'tiins ships
18:47.46XhoIt's probably the most populated ecumenopolis after Anatezc-ji 0
18:47.49XhoIn Borealis that is
18:49.08Angrybirds_Commander - Fire at will!                             Soldier - *looks down the line* Which one of them is Will?
18:50.39dromHah.
18:51.36Zmr56Hahah
18:52.49dino_lol
18:52.50dino_:d
18:54.52ImpyDroid<PROTECTED>
18:54.56ImpyDroidOhgod
18:56.32Angrybirds_I'd like to point out that they'd be giving yet another Muslim country vast reserves of oil.
18:56.56Angrybirds_Which I don't think they'd be really happy with. xD
18:58.15TekDroidlol
18:59.10ImpyDroidhur
19:02.24Monet__Okay GITO tables updated
19:06.36Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kicath/Military#Fleet I've entered the three Dreadnoughts in the tabber
19:07.37dino_oh
19:08.55OluapPlayerblah there's nothing to do
19:09.31dromHow many wants NC to sell a limited number of their own ships?
19:09.47OluapPlayer4 days in a row without working on fiction is suffering
19:09.58dromHah. I have suffered two months.
19:10.02TekDroidDrom: what tier is NC?
19:10.02dromgit on my level
19:10.15dromTekDroid: Least tier 2.
19:11.20dromI don't really care much about the tier level. It's all about efficiency.
19:12.34XhoGreat now I need to make Supercruisers, Destroyers, Battleships, Frigates, Corvettes and Fighters
19:12.36Xhosuch laze
19:12.45XhoAnd Supercarriers and Installations
19:12.56XhoInstallations being the Kicath's term for megastructures
19:13.03drom"superships"
19:13.24drom[OP intensifies]
19:13.51XhoI'll pretend I didn't see that
19:14.19dromhttp://i.imgur.com/ANlRh2q.jpg
19:15.14TekDroidThings never change.
19:18.33dromI'll take some time to think over my plans to open a limited trading of NC's ships.
19:18.41ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: We can do shirtless, or at least plan it
19:19.31OluapPlayerRight
19:20.11ImpyDroidMon?
19:20.58Monet__Certainly
19:21.32ImpyDroid#illarion
19:31.32Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:New_Capricus - A New Republic colony in the Quadrants.
19:32.15OluapPlayerYou're being so productive lately
19:32.18OluapPlayerI'm getting jelly
19:33.01Angrybirds_Cyrannian : Argh. That new format you've been using for the planet templates is gorgeous.
19:33.23CyrannianWhy thank you, feel free to use it
19:36.46Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cyrannian#To-Do_List - Out of all these pages, are there any preferences for what to do first?
19:37.32Angrybirds_Really? Thanks! I might, though I'm not sure it'd look as good with French flags hanging out the sides.
19:38.20ImpyDroidRepublic-Rambo Relations, Phaedric, Overseer
19:39.05Zmr56Republic-Rambo Relations,  New Cyrannian Republic/Government, Overseer
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19:40.21Zmr56Hi
19:40.38TybusenHello
19:41.57ImpyDroidHi
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19:50.58Sporeraptorhi
19:53.57ImpyDroidHi comrade Tybusen
19:54.05ImpyDroidHi comrade Sporeraptor
19:54.05TybusenHello comrade Impy
19:54.42CyrannianHi Tybusen
19:55.05TybusenHi Um
19:57.39ImpyDroidMy mom has been quite jingoistic as of lately
19:57.47ImpyDroidIt's kinda funny
19:57.52dino_jin whats?
19:58.21Wormy_awayI don't get why people like to make dogs meet human babies.  I think is stupid and irrational.  It could go either way, the maternal instinct or the predatory, there is no-way to know which way it will go.
19:58.40Wormy_awayI have dogs btw
19:59.06Wormy_awayDoesn't mean I can completely trust them I certainly don't around small children
19:59.17ImpyDroiddino_: Irrationally patriotic
19:59.24TybusenI think people like that stuff for its potential to be cute
19:59.40dino_@Imperios: Ah ok, clear! Thanks for explaining!
20:00.08Wormy_awayI think my dogs are cute without needing to so such things
20:00.49Wormy_awaySome people have trouble understanding what its like for the dogs perspective I think too, they humanise them too much.  I like watching as they are
20:01.15Wormy_awayPeople who rage at dogs = dog is just confused why their owner is being loud
20:02.04Wormy_awayPeople who give dogs bedrooms = dog might rather vsleep with human because owners smell makes them feel safer or gives them authoritary in the pack
20:02.16TybusenPeople think they can understand what a dog is thinking when it's likely that they don't even know what their next-door neighbors are thinking
20:02.40Wormy_awayPeople who think asserting their dominance is mean = dogs actually are the most stressed if they think they are at the top
20:03.07ImpyDroidTybusen: Hm... do you have any anti-Russian jingoists in your family?
20:03.19TekDroidDogs were bred to serve humanity.
20:03.55TekDroidThat came across a bit crueler than I intended.
20:03.55Wormy_awayIt is possible I believe to bond with the dog very deeply that you can understand each other, but its subtle and the human has to remove the idea the dog has their perspective on things.
20:03.59TybusenImpyDroid: At most some of my family members are just irritated over the whole Ukraine crisis as much as any other American you'd probably ask
20:04.14dino_Claire's grandfather: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Lord_Augustus_Ceasar_RamboLarge.png
20:04.39CyrannianAwesome work dino, I really like the wheelchair.
20:04.41OluapPlayerThat wheelchair
20:04.47Wormy_awayTekDroid:  That maybe so but I wonder if the dogs life is often better considering most if looked after properly get what they want
20:04.48Tybusendino_: Very cool! He really looks like a grandfather :U the wheelchair is pretty well done as well!
20:04.48OluapPlayerThat's pretty damn impressive
20:04.59ImpyDroidDat chair
20:05.02dino_Thanks! It was quite a challange to make but fun!
20:05.11dino_thanks for liking it!
20:05.29SporeraptorLooks great, i really like your idea with the wheels.
20:05.30Wormy_awayThat chair looks very cool but I do wonder if its bumpy
20:05.39dino_@monet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Senvinusreactor1.png ah wow!
20:05.41dino_Impressive
20:05.50Wormy_awayInteresting how you made it though
20:05.52XhoI can imagine Nu pointing and laughing at the fact he's wheelchair-bound
20:06.24dino_haha if Nu actually sees him1 Nu is pretty large and Quarantians are, compared to other galaxies small :D
20:06.25Wormy_away*Grandad then spanks Nu's arse with his stick*
20:06.30TekDroidA well cared for dog does get all the food, entertainment and company they need.
20:06.30dino_he could tackl Nu :D
20:06.42TybusenXho: And then Claire's grandfather runs Nu over with his wheelchair while Nu begs for sweet mercy
20:06.53XhoNu still laughs hur
20:06.54Monet__dino_: Thanks. Those things are the backbone of the Imperial transportation network
20:06.58Monet__ALso a good source of power
20:07.12dino_@monet Looks large and advanced!
20:07.16dino_hahaha
20:07.23TybusenThere's a lot of times that I think Nu was heavily inspired by Deadpool
20:07.23dino_@Xho and TybusenL Hahaha
20:07.34TybusenThis is one of them
20:07.42dino_Though I cant remember if Nu or any Kicath ever entered the Quadrants so doubt they would be aware of him haha
20:07.46Monet__dino_: They're usually several kilometres in radius so yeah. Big
20:07.54XhoAugustus - Back in my day --                  Nu - YOU WEREN'T WHEELCHAIR-BOUND HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
20:08.11ImpyDroidHm
20:08.12XhoI'm not big on comic books so I'm not very knowledgeable about Deadpool
20:08.20Wormy_awayI find this scene in my head very funny
20:08.28TybusenWell, Nu totally is the Deadpool of the Fictionverse anyways
20:08.50Wormy_awayAugustus - Right my boy, its time to bend over backwards!
20:08.58TybusenDeadpool is much like Nu in that he's at times a crazed psychopath who can turn anything into a farce
20:09.28TybusenAnd he's always talking shit as well
20:09.38Monet__ALso Deadpool is completely indestructible and runs completely on inpulse
20:09.40ImpyDroidTybusen: Did American mass media touch on the Malaysian plane crash in Ukraine? Whom did they blame?
20:09.52ImpyDroidYou can guess whom *we* blamed hur
20:10.00XhoNu-pool
20:10.13OluapPlayerAt least Nu isn't obnoxiously irritant
20:10.33TybusenImpyDroid: I think the consensus is that the Ukrainian rebels shot it down with a Russian missile, though it was likely on accident. I haven't watched enough news about it to be sure
20:10.38Monet__I like Deadpool
20:10.59TybusenYeah, Deadpool is one of the coolest Marvel heroes
20:11.10XhoNu's obnoxiously irritant to everyone in the Gigaquadrant
20:11.16TekDroidOutside Russia the blame is being pointed at Russian-backed rebels, citing a launch from rebel territory, russian-built missile, and technical skill required.
20:11.49ImpyDroidYeah but Ukraine has more technical skill and resources given that it is their territory
20:12.07TekDroidThough it was pointed out to me there were plenty of deserters and Ukraine had the equipment, so that's a possibility.
20:12.16ImpyDroidOur support for the rebels is limited
20:12.21XhoWhat if it was the Illuminati
20:12.26Xho:2spooky4u:
20:12.41Wormy_awayExpect there to be media cover ups
20:12.45Xhoc
20:12.47Xhoilluminati
20:12.51OluapPlayerThat's not spooky
20:12.55Wormy_awayOBEY
20:12.56OluapPlayerThere's not a single skeleton involved
20:12.59Wormy_awayCONSUME
20:12.59Xhok fien
20:13.00ImpyDroidZIONIST OCCUPATION GOVERNMENT
20:13.04XhoSkeleton Illuminati
20:13.06ImpyDroidHAVA NAGILA
20:13.07Wormy_awayMARRY AND REPRODUCE
20:13.10OluapPlayerNow it's spooky
20:13.16ImpyDroidHAVA NAGILA
20:13.25TekDroidBasically it hasn't changed much the whole crisis: Russia blames Ukraine, everyone else accuses Russia of backing the rebels and causing this.
20:13.32dino_@monet: That is big :D
20:13.52XhoBE BORN; WORK FOR FORTY YEARS; GET MARRIED; HAVE CHILDREN; PAY TAXES; NOW REPEAT: I AM FREE
20:13.53TybusenWhy can't we all just settle this the old fashioned way and blame it on North Korea
20:14.10XhoBecause North Korea can't launch a missile further than down the post office
20:14.22Wormy_awayWORK 8 HOURS, PLAY 8 HOURS, SLEEP 8 HOURS
20:14.22TybusenNorth Korean Illuminati
20:14.28TekDroidBecause America is blaming the communist side of the crisis.
20:14.39XhoC
20:14.57ImpyDroidGrorious Bukhan Nodong Missires can fly as far as Grorious Reader wants it to
20:14.59TekDroid(Yes, I know Russia isn't communist anymore, that's my point)
20:15.06ImpyDroidthem
20:15.16ImpyDroidWe're technically a lot like the USA now hur
20:15.44TybusenRussia is the US if the Republicans got unlimited power
20:15.48ImpyDroidI mean ideology-wise, we're more conservative, capitalist and religious compared to Europe
20:16.00ImpyDroidSo essentially Muhricans hur
20:16.03Cyrannianeurope ftw
20:16.06TybusenUS if the Republicans got unlimited power
20:16.18TekDroidMurica' - kill teh liberals!
20:16.20ImpyDroidYa
20:16.24Wormy_awayNo, all praise the Principlaity of Sealand!
20:16.46Wormy_away*Principality
20:16.53TybusenBasically: Russia = Republicans, Canada = Democrats
20:16.56ImpyDroidI find it hilarious that the modern Russian communists and American Republicans are nearly identical ideology-wise hur
20:16.58Wormy_awaygets executed for spewlling it wrong
20:17.30Monet__Russan COmmunist - COmmunism is about being rich and respecting old values...wait...
20:17.32TekDroidDemocrats = Conservative Canada
20:18.11TybusenLiberal Canada = Dude, bro... that's far out.
20:18.51TekDroidSocialist Canada - cut the defecit by spending more money!
20:19.20TybusenImpyDroid: The kicker to the whole "Russia is the US with Republicans in charge" comparison is that the Republicans here absolutely adore Putin for whatever reason
20:19.28OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/796/348/91d.png jesus christ
20:19.35Monet__What I find funny is that there republicans who slanderise Democrats for being "dirty liberals", and spout they are the pinnacle of freedom, yet half of the name "Liberal Democrat" means *LIBERTY*
20:20.15Monet__OluapPLayer: The SIms under EA
20:20.29TekDroidAlso Republicians only give you freedom if your a white Christian male.
20:20.33OluapPlayerhur
20:20.43TekDroid*you're
20:20.48TybusenMonet__: Yeah, but the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea is 3/4 "liberty"
20:20.58Monet__TekDroid: FREHDERM!
20:21.22TekDroid*a straight white Christian male
20:21.31TekDroid*born in the USA
20:21.48Tybusen*billionaire
20:21.57Monet__My main advantage for living in the US is my voice.
20:22.08Monet__I am british, therefore I am automatically sexy.
20:22.20TybusenMight depend on which British accent you have
20:22.38Monet__I grew up in Oxfordshire
20:22.46TybusenAnd whether you have cheekbones that you could use to stab someone in the chest
20:23.20TybusenGotta have the whole Eggs Benedict Cucumber Patch package
20:23.40Monet__I can mimic Cumberbatch
20:24.46ImpyDroidI have a fake quasi-British accent hur
20:25.00TybusenI feel like for Americans, it's very easy to do a bad British accent but very difficult to do an accurate one outside of the BBC accent since we've been fed so much bad British accents over the years
20:25.46Wormy_awayAn interesting fact I learned:  London has the third highest French population of any city.
20:25.48XhoYou have
20:25.50Xhostahp it
20:25.52Xhostahp it nao
20:25.54ImpyDroidNot sure how one would classify my accent, it's not stereotypically Russian
20:26.16TybusenI could do a passable BBC or RP accent but I don't think I can get close to imitating Cockney or Liverpool despite how distinctive those accents are in the American consciousness
20:26.46Wormy_awayActually no, Sixth, but thats significant http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18234930
20:27.17TybusenI've listened to Harry Enfield and the Beatles so much but I can never pick up their accents
20:27.28TekDroidI've always wondered how our Canadian accents sound to you. XD
20:28.01OluapPlayerXho: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/794/055/4ae.gif Santorakh gets yelled at by Angazhar
20:28.11TybusenTekDroid: Most Canadians I've met have accents that are indistinguishable from American accents, though most American media would have you believe that Canadians always say "aboot" and "eh"
20:28.12Wormy_awaydat cface
20:28.38Wormy_awayI once saw a Canadian with a very rurally type accent and he wasn't French Canadian
20:28.48Wormy_awayCan't describe it really
20:28.58CyrannianI can do a convincing Newcastle accent to frighten my foes.
20:29.03TybusenI've also met a French Canadian and they still had a very American-sounding accent
20:29.06TekDroidI occasionally use "eh", but not even remotely in the quantity or context that Americans do.
20:29.07XhoSantorakh - kawaikunai ne~ ;_;
20:29.24TekDroid*American media does it
20:29.25OluapPlayer(◕︹◕✿)
20:29.28Wormy_awayMy accent will be most akin to http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/DIALECT1.HTM
20:29.49TybusenCase in point: Most Canadians I've met I would have never been able to tell they were Canadian if they didn't tell me
20:29.56XhoI love those Service Unavailable accents
20:30.12OluapPlayerBe available to rp tomorrow btw, since we're certainly not gonna do anything today
20:30.14ImpyDroidFor some reason I find American accents easier to understand than British accents
20:30.47Wormy_awaylol, sometimes we struggle to understand each other
20:30.59TekDroidOne thing that never gets old for me is when Republicans say they'll move to Canada if they lose. XD
20:31.11ImpyDroidMonet__: Some Americans said I sound British
20:31.16Monet__Tybusen: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/1/19/MonetCumberbatchAttempt.ogg not perfect but here's my attempt at one of Khan's lines
20:31.16ImpyDroidI am proud of that :3
20:31.24TybusenImpyDroid: You can pretty much easily divide American accents up into four different regions: East Coast, South, California, and the rest of the US
20:31.44dino_have to go
20:31.45dino_by all
20:31.46XhoMonet__: Not a bad go
20:31.46Wormy_awayStrong Yorkshire dialect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScELaXMCVis
20:31.47dino_tilll next time
20:32.20TybusenMonet__: Wasn't perfect but it was still a decent imitation
20:32.35Monet__Still, you can hear my Britishness
20:33.02Wormy_awayI prefer regional dialects to any recieved pronunciations
20:33.16Wormy_awayI like the fact there is variation
20:33.30XhoOluap's heard my voice
20:33.35XhoAlbeit most of it was growls and screams
20:33.43CyrannianSo have I remember.
20:33.54TybusenWormy_away: Yorkshire sounds similar to how American media portrays thick Canadian accents
20:34.03XhoI'm actually just a goat with opposable thumbs
20:34.09CyrannianNormal British bloke-y
20:34.21OluapPlayerYou sound nothing like I imagined
20:34.26XhoWell
20:34.39Wormy_awayThere are actually many Yorkshire dialects believe it or not
20:34.46Wormy_awayEven variations in cities
20:34.48XhoMy voice is unexpectedly higher pitched than what would come to mind
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20:35.13ImpyDroidMy voice is whiny and annoying hur
20:35.18XhoGranted my voice does alter slightly when I'm talking online for some strange reason I cannot fathom
20:35.26CyrannianNobody on the wiki has heard my voice.
20:35.51Wormy_awayEast Anglia is weird https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTVwdv9Pzo8
20:36.05Wormy_awayThe people of East Anglia are teased by others as mutants
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20:36.24XhoEast Anglia accent
20:36.27XhoI can't understand it
20:36.35Wormy_awayEast Anglia - treated like Texans
20:36.46Tybusenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi_3v-FpKFg I've found an exclusive clip of Cyrannian's voice
20:36.58Wormy_awayPeople say they only have one eye and such likeness
20:37.33CyrannianI can do a pretty good Palpatine, funnily enough. :P
20:38.06TybusenSome people might be surprised to hear that Texas is not as universally bad as many think
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20:38.24Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_DqV1xdf-Y Electrical companies, eat your heart out
20:38.41TybusenRural Texas is bad, but if you go to the metropolitan areas, especially Houston, it's actually fairly progressive and liberal
20:38.42Technobliteratorfeminine hands, feminine voice
20:38.57Wormy_awayRural Texas = Rural East Anglia hur
20:39.07ImpyDroidSo, to those who heard my voice, how do I sound?
20:39.28OluapPlayerLike a person
20:39.34Wormy_awayI've heard your voice, it was loud enough for Cyrannian to locate your ship and blow it up in STO
20:39.58Wormy_awayYou announced yourself for battle then boom
20:40.07Xhohoh
20:40.32TekDroidI think AB's the only one who's heard me, for WarGame IIRC.
20:40.34CyrannianHooray for blowing things up.
20:41.04CyrannianI don't feel comfortable verbally communicating with people over the internet. It feels weird.
20:41.07Wormy_awayEast Anglian is not terribly unlike American...
20:41.21TekDroidCyrannian: You're not alone.
20:41.25Wormy_awayI wonder what Proto-American sounded like
20:41.47TybusenNo one has ever heard my voice, and none shall
20:42.02Wormy_awayI believe British dialects were similar back then to now in rural areas
20:42.19Wormy_awayThey still use Old English abd even Viking words
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20:43.04OfficerJackalBack!
20:43.19ImpyDroidWormy_away: All English people use Viking words hur
20:43.24Angrybirds_TekDroid: Speaking of which, what did you think of my voice? xD
20:43.29Wormy_away*Some Viking words
20:43.33ImpyDroidFor the record, "they" is a Viking word
20:43.49TekDroidOf course my parents would probably still give me hell if they heard me using voice chat. Which is why I rarely use it.
20:44.09Wormy_awayI'm not sure if this is Somerset accent or American...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsB90aJ6Jp8
20:44.20CyrannianI think I still view most people on IRC as words on a screen rather than real people hur
20:44.22Wormy_awayThere must be some relation
20:44.36Wormy_awayI do Cyrannian
20:45.01CyrannianPart of the reason why I'd be incredibly bothered if someone like Oluap changed his username and it was no longer pinkish red.
20:45.08TekDroidlol
20:45.20Wormy_awayTybusen:  Do you think Old Somerset sounds American?
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20:47.08CyrannianHi there.
20:47.31Wormy_awayThere
20:47.48Wormy_awayAmerican accents sound uncannily like old Somerset
20:48.01ImpyDroidIt depends on the person for me
20:48.08Wormy_awayMaybe that is their deriviation
20:48.30ImpyDroidHachi and Monet are faces for me
20:48.41ImpyDroidThe rest are letters hur
20:49.29Wormy_awayI sometimes wonder if you are all bots
20:49.38CyrannianGhelae certainly is.
20:49.45Wormy_awayIf I am the only living being here
20:49.54ImpyDroidWormy_away: Funnily enough, American accents retained many features that the British accents *lost*, such as "r"s and the pronouncation of "a" as "ay" as opposed to "ah"
20:50.02Wormy_awayyeah
20:50.08ImpyDroidSo they are in many ways more archaic
20:50.29Wormy_awayImpy:  Listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsB90aJ6Jp8
20:51.34ImpyDroidI imagine Old Somerset is archaic as well and that is why it sounds American
20:51.39Wormy_awayyeah
20:52.08Wormy_awaySomerset accent is still distinctive but that 80 recording is far deeper
20:52.14Wormy_away80 year old
20:52.31Wormy_awayDialects are slowly dying sadly
20:52.48Wormy_awayGetting washed out as people find it is easier to move
20:53.18Wormy_awayThen again, conservatism isn't never good imo
20:53.22Wormy_awaylet them die
20:53.34Wormy_awaylet new ones evolve
20:53.34ImpyDroidRussian has much less dialects strangely
20:53.48Wormy_awayyeah
20:54.10Wormy_awaythe "laws" of dialects seem to be different
20:54.19Wormy_awayIn Australia, there is only two
20:54.29ImpyDroidIt was weird actually, I once played Dota with an Ukrainian fron Crimea and two Russians from Kazakhstan
20:54.37ImpyDroidAnd we all spoke roughly the same
20:55.08ImpyDroidOh, and a dude from Moscow
20:55.09Wormy_awayI've noticed that most people with strong dialects in the UK are 50, 60+
20:55.37Wormy_awayThough some students in that college I went to had string dialects
20:55.41Wormy_away*strong
20:56.08CyrannianShould I move Apollo's page to "Captain:Aedanius Cretacea" or not? He'll still mostly be referred to as Apollo in any event.
20:56.15Wormy_awayRight bbl
20:56.47Monet__Cyrannian: Well that is his real name so it would make sense to move it
21:00.37TekDroidLeave a redirect though.
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21:29.46TekDroidLol, in EUIV my navy is the size of the next two combined.
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21:36.38dromAfter some rp:ing. I gave up when some pigs (cops) blew up my truck with myself inside it. Because it had traces of marijana.
21:37.02Monet__Ouch.
21:37.08dromZero-tolerance against traces. I see.
21:37.09Monet__So you tried a bit of drug-running then
21:37.25dromYeah. But it wasn't that profitable as I thought.
21:38.11dromWhile doing this run. I have been thinking on NC's plans to sell starships.
21:38.19dromIt will. But very limited.
21:39.03TekDroidgtg
21:39.15Zmr_Civ_Vbye
21:39.56dromWhy does the Kicath's Agency and Naval emblems look the same?
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21:41.19Monet__drom: Not sure, you'll have ot ask Xho tomorrow
21:41.42dromOtherwise, it's Kicath logic.
21:43.35dromI wonder which market I should place them.
21:43.45dromin which*
21:44.17Monet__What do you mean?
21:44.45dromThere's different trade networks.
21:46.38Monet__GITO's one of the most over-arching so far
21:48.21dromI think I'll just make a post in the universal channel.
21:49.47dromAnd I mean this board. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board
21:49.59Monet__I know
21:52.42dromI need to find a currency for non-domestic affairs.
21:53.31dromEh. I'll do it tomorrow. Gonna do CIV5 with my friends.
21:57.34Angrybirds_Drom : There's also the arms market.
21:57.47Angrybirds_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AArms_Market
21:58.02dromThen it's up to you two to competite for the exclusive weaponry.
21:58.59Angrybirds_I don't follow. The Arms Market is just a convenient place to put up your stuff to indicate that it's for sale .
22:00.35dromsweet jesus, milk taste soooo good after brushing your teeth
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22:03.02dromPlaying as Venice. I think I'll be stomped to death by my two fellow friends under the 30 first turns.
22:04.20Zmr_Civ_VWell I'm playing as Jopon here
22:04.33Jepardihttp://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aQqwrEe_460s_v1.jpg
22:07.50Zmr_Civ_VHahah
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22:09.56TekDroidI was playing France in EUIV. conquered most of the Balkans in my first few decades. XD
22:10.02TekDroid*Venice
22:11.17TekDroidOf course Austria, the Italian minors and every Muslim in the eastern Mediterranean are in a coalition against me. XD
22:20.26Zmr56Well Civ V crashed again
22:20.34Zmr56Damn Windows 8
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22:31.13HachimanHai
22:31.37Wormy_awayhi
22:32.03Cyrannianhey there
22:32.23HachimanI feel really happy c:
22:32.29Wormy_awaywhy
22:32.34Monet__Great to hear!
22:32.42Wormyhare the love
22:33.05Wormyno pun intended3
22:33.08OluapPlayer~glomp Hachiman
22:33.08infobotACTION becomes fully animated as her eyes squint in an upside-down-U formation, gets a running start and tackle-glomps Hachiman
22:33.08CyrannianAre you preggers?
22:33.16OluapPlayermuh babby
22:33.17HachimanSpent the last few days with my girlfriend, my folks got married yesterday, seeing her off tomorrow before she goes home
22:33.44WormyYou're next hur
22:34.23CyrannianThe feels
22:35.02WormyI just want to burst in smiley flowers
22:35.21Angrybirds_o.o We kinda need you intact, Wormy.
22:35.30HachimanFirst time I've been actually happy in ages really
22:35.36HachimanI've never been happy for this long
22:38.33dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/ROLGvTv
22:40.46OluapPlayerI don't remember the last time I've been genuinely happy
22:42.58CyrannianSorry to hear that, Oluap. I'm sending you a virtual, sinister, scaly reptilian hug now. They're the best kind.
22:51.04dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/7nX4mKr
22:52.46dromAlso, something for Star Wars fans to get their senses tingling. http://imgur.com/gallery/DW7OUcx
22:53.36Monet__Hrmmm
22:56.16dromAlright, it's bedtime.
22:56.25dromG'night.
23:00.20Monet__Goodnight
23:03.04Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Republic-Rambo_Relations - Take a look. I'll finish it tomorrow.
23:10.10Wormynice
23:11.06CyrannianWhile writing it, I was thinking of making a similar page for history of DCP relations with the URC/NCR
23:11.17WormyRemember that ambassador story where a DCP ambassador reports on life and differences in the Republic/Empire/New Republic and the Cyrannian ambassador viseversa in the DCP?
23:11.39WormyI think it could be based in the URC
23:11.44CyrannianHm, I can't seem to remember
23:11.51WormyWe never made it
23:12.22WormyI think it could be based in the URC since it contrasts with the DCP more politically
23:12.37Wormy*URC times
23:13.20CyrannianGood idea, though it could also work in the New Republic since I don't think they have been in contact with the DCP as much since it was formed.
23:15.44WormyI'd love this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.me.gotoAndUse.TheyLiveGoggles&hl=en
23:16.39WormyRight, Mirror's Edge time
23:48.50TekDroidHello
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23:52.15AdmiralPandahi all
23:52.29Monet__Hi
23:52.31TekDroidHello
23:52.43HachimanHai
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23:53.09AdmiralPandais impressed
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