| 00:01.51 | Wormy | I saw a very strange bird today |
| 00:02.17 | Wormy | Small, but like a vulture. Its head was bald but it had a long beak |
| 00:11.01 | AdmiralPanda | Well, the local market turned out a tad disappointing this time around. |
| 00:12.43 | Wormy | I think it was just a common garden bird actually with badly molted feathers it looked strange and ugly |
| 00:13.09 | Monet_ | Bird - Don't look at me i'm hidious! *hides under wing* |
| 00:13.52 | Wormy | It had the likeness of this but a different species http://feederwatch.org/learn/unusual-birds/#bald-headed-birds |
| 00:14.21 | Wormy | The dinosaur truth revealed! |
| 00:15.27 | AdmiralPanda | if it was bald headed it was probably a carrion bird |
| 00:17.20 | Wormy | It didn't have the beak though, it was medium-long and straight |
| 00:17.43 | Wormy | It had the body of a warbler |
| 00:18.06 | Wormy | no, wrong bird... |
| 00:18.48 | Wormy | Body of a Starling |
| 00:19.09 | Wormy | http://www.petinfoclub.com/Images/Young%20starling%20shutterstock_40305295.jpg |
| 00:29.10 | Liquid_Ink | I struck Lapis Laszuli! |
| 00:32.08 | Wormy | good on you |
| 00:32.53 | Liquid_Ink | And Melon seeds! |
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| 00:33.08 | OfficerJackal | Hello! |
| 00:33.10 | Cyrannian|STO | Playing in the Klingon faction is not fun, if I hear "honour" or "glory in battle" one more time... |
| 00:33.31 | OfficerJackal | Honour. |
| 00:34.03 | Cyrannian|STO | gives OfficerJackal a kitten |
| 00:34.11 | OfficerJackal | :D |
| 00:35.39 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 00:38.00 | Monet_ | Cyrannian|STO: Warrior-races can be hit-and-miss. |
| 00:38.07 | Hachiman | STO does not know how to do warrior-races correctly |
| 00:38.32 | Monet_ | Hachiman: What do you mean? |
| 00:38.42 | AdmiralPanda | Liquid_Ink: icanhasmelon? |
| 00:38.45 | Hachiman | Look how one-dimensional the Klingons are |
| 00:39.20 | Hachiman | "Huargh look at me, I am frightening warrior man. Huargh. Glory in battle! Honour! Huargh." |
| 00:39.47 | Monet_ | Cyrannian: Judging from Apollo's opinions, I didn't think you were a big fan of warrior types like Spartans. |
| 00:40.28 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: From what I understand, in the original series the Klingon were very much that. Worf once said that before they joined the Federation they didn't even have a word for "negotiator" |
| 00:40.50 | Hachiman | Dear God |
| 00:41.01 | Hachiman | As much as I love warrior races, the Klingons are so fucking stupid |
| 00:41.08 | Hachiman | It's a wonder they managed space travel at all |
| 00:41.16 | Cyrannian|STO | Monet_: Yeah, I'm not a big fan. I prefer races like the Romulans. |
| 00:41.34 | Cyrannian|STO | I do like Worf though. |
| 00:41.36 | Monet_ | Hachiman: I think some Feds wondered that too. |
| 00:41.41 | Hachiman | They're not threatening, they're not interesting, they're not clever |
| 00:42.00 | Hachiman | The Klingons are pretty much just talking monkeys with knives |
| 00:42.02 | AdmiralPanda | What I really want to know is how they came up with stealth technology before the Federation did |
| 00:42.16 | Monet_ | It gets annoying when yo realise that in Encounter at Farpoint, Q claims that Klingons are more "developed" as a species than humans. |
| 00:42.37 | AdmiralPanda | physically perhaps, but not societally |
| 00:43.04 | Monet_ | Q put humans on trial for all the shameful crap we've done, apparently Klingons did not get such a thing. |
| 00:43.07 | TekDroid | I think the real flaw with one-dimensional warrior races are how they don't break apart and kill each other |
| 00:43.35 | AdmiralPanda | Actually for most warrior races it's quite easy to justify: they spend all their time bashing other people, so they don't spend much time bashing htemselves |
| 00:43.43 | Hachiman | What's even worse is that despite being the most iconic member of a race of warmongers, Worf is so damn bad at his job that he can get killed simply by being pushed over a railing |
| 00:44.04 | Hachiman | He's like Star Trek's analogue of Boba Fett |
| 00:44.08 | Monet_ | TekDroid: Yeah, one of the duties for a Klingon First Officer is to assassinate their captain. |
| 00:44.16 | Cyrannian|STO | Oh yeah, the Worf effect :P |
| 00:45.05 | Monet_ | Thing is...Worf didn ot grow up among Klingons |
| 00:45.11 | Monet_ | He spent his entire life among humans |
| 00:45.33 | Monet_ | So most of his understanding of Klingon society is what he's read or heard about |
| 00:47.02 | Wormy | Early in TNG, we saw this. Worf would try to be what he thought was Klingon |
| 00:47.52 | Wormy | Only in late TNG and DS9 did he get better integrated with Klingon society and culture and acted better a\s a real Klingon |
| 00:48.04 | Monet_ | Worf was endlessly ridiculed by Klingons for drinking prune juice instead of bloodwine. |
| 00:48.28 | Hachiman | You know the first time I fought a Klingon Warbird or whatever it's called I was pissing myself, then I discovered that my pissy little Federation starship could take on three-four Warbirds consecutively and that ruined what little respect I had for Klingons |
| 00:48.53 | Hachiman | The Klingons are just idiots and Star Trek is cheap-ass and lazy when it comes to trying to get things remotely beyond humans right |
| 00:48.55 | Monet_ | TBF, the b'rel class is old and cheap. |
| 00:49.19 | Monet_ | Its a wolfpack vessel |
| 00:49.27 | TekDroid | Hachiman: but on the other hand while playing Klingons you can do the same thing to the federation |
| 00:49.53 | Wormy | Hachiman: In Player vs. Player Klingon players get the upper hand. You'll see |
| 00:50.06 | Wormy | They are faster, and have cannons |
| 00:50.31 | Wormy | The only chances Fed players have is to get into a tight ball and support each other |
| 00:50.59 | Hachiman | If B'rel Warbirds are wolfpack vessels, then why the hell are they only throwing three or four at my vastly superior ship, use tactics damnit. As a warrior race, the Klingons fail because they do not integrate tactics beyond "huargh qapla look at how scary I am rawr blood honour qapla" |
| 00:51.15 | Cyrannian|STO | Romulan ships are best ships. |
| 00:51.57 | TekDroid | It doesn't matter what side you play, your single ship will mow down fleets of the other side(s) |
| 00:52.05 | TekDroid | in PvE |
| 00:52.09 | Wormy | Klingons are as good or crap as the ST writers want them to be. They are badass in some episodes and weak in others. Also STO is not a good representation of Star Trek canon cuz game mechanics |
| 00:52.38 | Wormy | Cyra: I have a feeling its why STO devs let Fed aligned Romulan ships in Fed PvP |
| 00:52.58 | Monet_ | By level 10 any STO player has probably killed more ships than any series has shown. |
| 00:52.58 | Wormy | Nearly all PvP I've been in Fed players lose |
| 00:53.24 | Hachiman | Needs Borg faction pls |
| 00:53.24 | Wormy | Fed players to win have to think in strategy not force |
| 00:53.47 | Monet_ | Hell the Cube at the Battle of Wolf 359 was probably as dangerous as a good STO player. |
| 00:53.55 | Wormy | There is speculation we might get to be part of a rogue Borg faction inthe future |
| 00:54.02 | Monet_ | And it took out 39 Federation ships *on it's own* |
| 00:54.02 | Cyrannian|STO | I have a feature on my Scimitar that allows me to fire weapons when cloaked, which is pretty useful. |
| 00:55.04 | Monet_ | Cyr: Now that's jsut scary. |
| 00:56.12 | Cyrannian|STO | https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10544780_250577151797481_3266101524968332918_n.jpg |
| 00:56.33 | Wormy | Yoi've probably noticed my vessel has very good shield regen and resilience, and weapons designed to drain shields of other ships before throwing heavy torpedoes at them like transphasic mine torpedoes |
| 00:56.46 | Wormy | Thats what I specialised it in |
| 00:57.01 | Wormy | It'll still lose to pVp |
| 00:57.38 | Wormy | Hachiman: If you want to see tactics in STO you'll have to wait until you can get into Player vs. Player. Thats where the real progress begins |
| 00:57.56 | Wormy | I started pVp after becoming level 50 and was completely recked |
| 00:58.04 | Wormy | by other players |
| 00:58.14 | Cyrannian|STO | Another thing that annoys me in the Klingon faction is that even if you're playing as a non-Klingon, your character is still all "rawr bloodwine rawr honour" |
| 00:58.26 | Wormy | lol |
| 00:59.26 | Monet_ | Yeah playing the klingons is a bad idea unless 300 is a guilty pleasure for you. |
| 01:00.03 | Wormy | The main thing that annoys me in STO is that the ground missions get repetitive, huge and repetitive maps you can get lost in. I hated Romulan bases for this reason |
| 01:00.30 | Wormy | I got so bored sometimes in the episodes just from running about |
| 01:00.44 | Wormy | I think the devs are trying to fix it though |
| 01:00.46 | Hachiman | Makes me wonder what has been the most badass depiction of the Klingons |
| 01:00.56 | Hachiman | Badass as in actually good |
| 01:01.07 | Wormy | Mostly in TNG and DS9. |
| 01:01.22 | Monet_ | Yeah. Although you stil lget goofballs |
| 01:01.27 | Wormy | In VOY, a klingon warship survived in the Delta quadrant from 70 years |
| 01:01.45 | Monet_ | Like a Klingon who had the smart idea to headbutt commander Data (granted he probably didn't know Data was an android) |
| 01:02.00 | Wormy | First Battle of DS9 - Klingons get beaten up by humans |
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| 01:02.23 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone. |
| 01:02.29 | Wormy | Klingons are cool in the Original Series films |
| 01:02.32 | Wormy | hi |
| 01:03.10 | Hachiman | I will forever think that Klingons are just there for writers to exploit to produce wank over humans beating up "huargh proud blooded warriors huargh" |
| 01:03.43 | Wormy | Hachiman: Klingons get their arses kicked here http://youtu.be/lYePPtRE9eQ?t=1m36s |
| 01:04.00 | Wormy | but yeah I agree |
| 01:04.06 | Angrybirds | They're also pretty cool where I'm at in DS9. |
| 01:04.27 | AdmiralPanda | Klingons are like Wolverine: they're awesome right up until the point where they need to be slapped around to show how powerful the new guy is |
| 01:05.24 | Wormy | Where are the shields in that scene? |
| 01:08.05 | Wormy | Klingons so weak in that scene the characters talk while fighting |
| 01:08.10 | Wormy | *stop to talk |
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| 01:08.57 | Wormy | Hachiman: Also "Klingons, always shooting at what they don't understand" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbG3N51MEjM |
| 01:10.25 | Wormy | Come to think of it, its what the roles of aliens are in Star Trek |
| 01:11.07 | Wormy | Vulcans - an ideal of logic, but always defeated by the moral of the episode where the human is right about being passionate or impulsive |
| 01:11.35 | Wormy | Klingons - Strong and warlike, but always defeated by the human's ingenuity |
| 01:11.51 | Wormy | Probably more |
| 01:12.41 | Wormy | Essentially in Star Trek, humans are always the best |
| 01:12.50 | Hachiman | Ugh, it's utterly disgusting |
| 01:13.02 | Wormy | Q - Always turns out to learn something about humanity from Picard |
| 01:13.31 | Monet_ | Even though he's prettymuch God |
| 01:13.35 | Wormy | The Borg - Lose to humanity's individualism and superior morals |
| 01:14.45 | Cyrannian|STO | For example, in this one mission, a Klingon runs stupidly into a crowd of Romulans and when he's killed he claims it's an honourable death. dats dum |
| 01:14.48 | Monet_ | Cardassians - Learn that sometimes social bonds are more important than duty |
| 01:15.15 | AdmiralPanda | Romulans - Defeated by superior logic and planning |
| 01:15.31 | AdmiralPanda | at least from what I've seen of htem |
| 01:15.35 | Monet_ | Cyrannian|STO: In his mind he died honourably because he died fighting. Still doesn't excuse him from idiocy though. |
| 01:15.57 | DrodoEmpire | Klingon tactics in general are pretty idiotic. :P |
| 01:16.06 | Cuttlefish_ | That's not honourable, it's just dumb |
| 01:16.10 | Monet_ | There's dying honourably in battle and then there's being suicidally confident |
| 01:16.14 | DrodoEmpire | At least on the ground |
| 01:16.33 | Hachiman | I'm willing to bet that the Klingon didn't even take any Romulans with him |
| 01:16.43 | Monet_ | I find it funny that for being a bunch of proud warriors, they li their cloaking devices. |
| 01:16.46 | Wormy | Star Trek is philosophical and interesting but it is definitely grounded in idealism at least when Rodenberry was running TOS and early TNG |
| 01:17.24 | Wormy | Writers mikght have tried to make amends later when showing poor Fed mining colonies etc. |
| 01:17.44 | Wormy | Or the Feds needing Klingons and Romulans to help them defeat the Dominion |
| 01:17.45 | Monet_ | Hachiman: If you think the Klingons were proud to the point of stupidity you should see the Goa'uld. |
| 01:18.03 | Wormy | The Goa'uld are also stereotype villains |
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| 01:18.50 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
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| 01:19.21 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 01:19.31 | Hachiman | It's such a shame because the Klingons have so much potential to be made into an actually good warrior race considering they pretty much made warrior races popular |
| 01:19.39 | Hachiman | They're just so one-dimensional |
| 01:19.40 | Monet_ | There have been system lords who knew it was the Tau'ri (us) who blew up Ra with a NUKE and know it was the Tau'ri who killed the system lord Apophis and STILL see us as insects they can easily crush. |
| 01:19.48 | Cuttlefish_ | How did the Goa'uld even get to space in the first space. Did they just wait until some other race visited them so they could take some ships? |
| 01:20.07 | Monet_ | Cuttlefish_: Stargates. No spaceships required |
| 01:20.34 | Monet_ | But yeah Goa'uld don't invent ,they scavenge nad then cannibalise. |
| 01:21.55 | Wormy | They scavenge Alteran technology |
| 01:22.07 | Monet_ | They found a stargate on their homeworld, used it to spread their desires for conquest, foudn Eath, mass-enslaved the human race, used us as the bulk of their armies and they just got more dangerous from there |
| 01:22.17 | Monet_ | Oh yeah, and like the Klingons they also fight amongst themselves. |
| 01:23.04 | Wormy | I like the Goa'uld as villains though, at least Stargate writers put the flaws in obviously |
| 01:23.22 | Cuttlefish_ | I've never understood why the Ancients would even bother to make so many stargates on worlds they aren't even on like "there's nothing here but maybe i'll come back later" |
| 01:23.41 | Wormy | They are prideful, arrogant, deceitful and the like |
| 01:23.54 | Cyrannian|STO | It's also impossible to make an attractive female Klingon bridge officer. |
| 01:24.15 | Monet_ | Cuttlefish_: They left stargates behind to help the younger races |
| 01:24.33 | AdmiralPanda | Cyrannian|STO: Which is clearly the greatest offence they ever made |
| 01:24.41 | Cuttlefish_ | Yeah but why? It just seems like a waste of resources. |
| 01:25.28 | Hachiman | It should be a crime that a warrior race is incapable of producing attractive women |
| 01:25.30 | Cyrannian|STO | I'm just saying that the females have the exact same hair options available as males. |
| 01:25.36 | TekDroid | It's possible there was civilization there, it just faded entirely with age. |
| 01:25.40 | Wormy | O really is that so? http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120907172558/spore/images/0/05/N%27Kurin-Sutai-B%27mar.png |
| 01:25.51 | Monet_ | Cyrannian|STO: SOme people love dreadlocks |
| 01:25.57 | LordRaydon | I'm so lost right now. |
| 01:26.29 | Monet_ | Although to be fair, Klingons find humans ugly. |
| 01:26.55 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: We all know Kirk is the Federation's equivalent of Genghis Khan, not because he's a conqueror, but because any given humanoid alien has a 5% chance to be related to him :P |
| 01:26.57 | Wormy | Worf thinks he could break a human woman since "they are too fragile" |
| 01:26.59 | Cuttlefish_ | Aliens aren't supposed to be attractive. If anything, the real crime is the green skinned space babe in the star trek remake movie. |
| 01:27.19 | Wormy | Orion girls? |
| 01:27.19 | Monet_ | Cuttlefish_: Orions are older than that |
| 01:27.38 | Wormy | http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Orion |
| 01:27.38 | Hachiman | Orions are lazy as fuck |
| 01:27.44 | Monet_ | Also (I don't know why), Orions are a race of whores. |
| 01:28.06 | AdmiralPanda | And who says aliens can't be attractive? Asari kinda need to be for their species to continue to develop, otherwise they'd just be a society of blue mindfucking lesbians |
| 01:28.16 | Monet_ | Although they do have an engenious socia lstructure: Its the women who are in control. |
| 01:28.31 | Wormy | Twi'leks for example |
| 01:28.36 | Cyrannian|STO | Orion are too sluttly and fanservice-y for my tastes. |
| 01:28.48 | Wormy | Na'vi |
| 01:28.52 | Wormy | There I said it |
| 01:28.57 | Cuttlefish_ | Not a big fan of any races like that. |
| 01:29.13 | Hachiman | If I wanted to wank over green foreigners, I'd go for humanoid goblin girls rather than Orions because at least people put effort into goblins to make them interesting |
| 01:29.15 | Wormy | time to plasy a liuttle mirrors edge |
| 01:29.29 | AdmiralPanda | you and your goblin girls :P |
| 01:29.37 | Hachiman | Goblins are cute as fuck don't judge |
| 01:29.56 | Cyrannian|STO | I do like asari such as Liara. Samara not so much. |
| 01:30.02 | Cuttlefish_ | You and I have very different definitions for goblins. |
| 01:30.02 | Monet_ | I suppose that if Star Trek had a bigger budget the aliens would look less human. |
| 01:30.19 | Wormy | You might like some of the more alien aliens in ST |
| 01:30.28 | Wormy | They do exist in great number |
| 01:30.31 | Hachiman | I find Asari meh, they're there purely for fanservice |
| 01:31.04 | Monet_ | http://discoverfarscape.com/images/HeadTop/Pilot2.jpg for instance Farscape had this |
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| 01:31.24 | Monet_ | I think i read somewhere it took about 3 or 4 men to fully animate Pilot. |
| 01:31.39 | Wormy | http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Spaceborne_species http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Non-humanoid_species |
| 01:31.52 | OluapPlayer | If it wasn't for the Asari, the Rovegar wouldn't exist |
| 01:32.13 | Cyrannian|STO | Well yeah, I'm not a fan of their head tentacles, but Liara has a pretty face and a likable personality. I think Samara looks weird. |
| 01:32.47 | AdmiralPanda | I just found it funny when the three guys in a bar come to the conclusion that Asari are using mind control to make everyone want to sleep with them |
| 01:33.25 | Hachiman | Liara is fine, I like Samara because she adds some depth to the asari, all other asari characters are meh |
| 01:33.35 | Hachiman | Well, aside from Morinth but she's fanservice for the most part |
| 01:33.40 | AdmiralPanda | also Hachiman: You can keep your goblins, I'm just going to sit over here with my sylphs, ifrits and undine :P |
| 01:33.50 | Monet_ | Hachiman: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WQa7zdsM50M/UZY59H0jNiI/AAAAAAABFLw/TZ-4BcCpiFs/s1600/Horta.jpg this girl is hot! |
| 01:34.00 | Hachiman | oh deer |
| 01:34.01 | Cuttlefish_ | They don't want to sleep with you panda they want to eat you. |
| 01:34.26 | Hachiman | At least a goblin doesn't have to kneel when giving the service |
| 01:35.00 | Monet_ | No but they do need a stepladder to give you tongue |
| 01:35.05 | Cuttlefish_ | What goblins are we even talking about. I'm just picturing short wort covered cave dwellers. |
| 01:35.18 | AdmiralPanda | if "the service" is all you're interested in then your ambitions are a little low my friend :P |
| 01:35.34 | Cyrannian|STO | http://atolkienistperspective.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/greatgoblin.jpg - I'm picturing this |
| 01:35.44 | Hachiman | Cuttlefish_: Think World of Warcraft-style goblins |
| 01:35.47 | Hachiman | Little green humans |
| 01:35.50 | Monet_ | http://digital-art-gallery.com/oid/27/640x501_6335_Goblin_Hunter_2d_illustration_goblin_female_warcraft_wow_hunter_fan_art_picture_image_digital_art.jpg |
| 01:35.52 | Monet_ | this |
| 01:35.52 | Hachiman | With elf ears |
| 01:35.59 | Cuttlefish_ | I hate warcraft |
| 01:36.21 | Cuttlefish_ | It's only good cause it's popular. |
| 01:36.36 | Hachiman | Oh I hate WoW but I love some of its depictions with races |
| 01:36.47 | LordRaydon | Ditto with Hachiman |
| 01:37.01 | AdmiralPanda | "It's only good because it's popular." Funny thing is, it only got popular because it was good. Note I said was. |
| 01:37.42 | AdmiralPanda | I did appreciate them dedicating an entire expansion to the worship of my people, but other than that I have no real feelings for it. |
| 01:37.53 | Monet_ | I'm going to risk flame here but I think World of Warcraft may be the video game setting equivilent of Star Trek |
| 01:37.57 | Cuttlefish_ | It's addicting, so you continue playing, but I think it is very low quality. |
| 01:38.37 | AdmiralPanda | Cuttlefish_: Thing is, it's more or less the highest quality sustainable offering on the market. |
| 01:38.58 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: Guild Wars 2 :P |
| 01:39.00 | Monet_ | Every member of the Alliance (except maybe Draeni) is a human with makeup. |
| 01:39.02 | AdmiralPanda | Everyone else is either trying to be WoW, or they can't lure a big enough share of the WoW players away, and either way they don't end up securing enough of the market |
| 01:39.20 | Cuttlefish_ | I don't really care. If people think it's fun, then play it. |
| 01:39.38 | LordRaydon | I remember playing the old Warcraft games. |
| 01:39.45 | LordRaydon | Now, those-- those were fun. |
| 01:39.49 | Monet_ | Although I wil lsay this about one Warcraft race |
| 01:39.51 | AdmiralPanda | What I would love to see is a Warhammer or Warhammer 40'000 MMORTS |
| 01:40.13 | Cuttlefish_ | I remember playing adventure quest when they still made it in ms paint |
| 01:40.17 | Hachiman | Oh wow the thunder's really bad over here |
| 01:40.22 | AdmiralPanda | not like the Dawn of War games mind you, I mean more like the tabletop game where you start the battle with predetermined forces |
| 01:40.33 | Hachiman | But the lightning's so beautiful |
| 01:40.38 | Monet_ | I want to shoot whever decided female Trolls should be fanservice-y |
| 01:40.52 | AdmiralPanda | your gameplay progression comes in the form of unlocking new units, upgrades and leadership abilities, so on and so forth |
| 01:40.58 | Monet_ | Trolls are SUPPOSED to be ugly as sin. |
| 01:41.06 | Cuttlefish_ | Twilly looked weird back then |
| 01:41.19 | AdmiralPanda | Cuttlefish_: Did you ever play MechQuest? |
| 01:41.25 | Cuttlefish_ | Yes |
| 01:41.44 | AdmiralPanda | good game that once they rebalanced the cash rewards and early mech costs |
| 01:42.01 | Cuttlefish_ | That fact that warlic had a beard made me very uncomfortable |
| 01:42.33 | Cuttlefish_ | I don't know why. He just shouldn't have beard, thats not him |
| 01:42.54 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: You think you've seen Pay to Win? In the earliest releases of MechQuest, your cash rewards scaled with the level of the mech you equipped, so a level 1 mech got you about 17-20 credits per fight |
| 01:43.09 | AdmiralPanda | now this was all well and good, except that you needed around 2000 for a level 3 mech |
| 01:43.20 | Hachiman | Geezush |
| 01:43.26 | TekDroid | I played this one mobile MMO, after a certain point only PvP was viable. The community became built around farming and attacking anyone other than a farm player was a death wish. When I left the developers were even encouraging this. |
| 01:43.40 | LordRaydon | Dayum |
| 01:44.04 | AdmiralPanda | TekDroid: Most "MMORTS" games are like that, the established players just sit in bubbles where they pick on the weak |
| 01:44.25 | Monet_ | Hmm I'd say Farscape is a mixed bag when it came to races. You had Luxans like D'argo http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070105161129/farscape/images/thumb/4/4c/Dargo.jpg/220px-Dargo.jpg and you had Pilot. But you also had Sebaceans, who were prettymuch humans who become vegetables in hot weather. |
| 01:44.37 | AdmiralPanda | One game I played, the only time a person with a rank in the 5000's attacked another such player, was when it was an organised attack to get a moon from the debris |
| 01:45.08 | TekDroid | It wasn't even that, the farming was the only way to make money. |
| 01:46.33 | LordRaydon | TekDroid: That does not sound like a very fun game, tbh |
| 01:47.00 | TekDroid | For PvE it was a based on a tiny % chance, and attacking players who didn't exploit game mechanics as a farm were ganged up on until their troop counts were 0. |
| 01:47.53 | TekDroid | I only stuck around for a part of the forum community before quitting |
| 01:47.56 | AdmiralPanda | I've only played one such game where there was any late-game pvp, and even that was just dominated by who had the better tech- if you had beam weapons and tier 4 hull you won regardless |
| 01:48.18 | Monet_ | I think Farscape was an appeal to classic sci-fi; it was wierd, it was crazy, several aliens had "what the fuck" traits about them and you got plenty of wierd space phenomena |
| 01:48.53 | Cuttlefish_ | I enjoy aliens with wtf traits |
| 01:49.08 | Monet_ | Oh and a fish-out-of-water protagonist |
| 01:51.18 | Monet_ | Let me think...Luxans don't need pressure suits when in a vacuum, Pilot's species integrate themselves with living ships in order to live symbioically, there's this cat-sized alien that farts helium, one human-like race with a sonic scream capable of melting stuff..erm, what else |
| 01:51.45 | Hachiman | Now that last one reminds me of Rovegar hur |
| 01:52.30 | Monet_ | Oh yeah there was one alien that was described as a plant but looked like a bald blue human...who can get high on high levels of light. |
| 01:52.42 | LordRaydon | lolwut |
| 01:52.59 | Monet_ | And have UV-resistant stomach juices |
| 01:53.35 | Cyrannian|STO | OluapPlayer: I added my PCA diplomat fellow and a transmission from Apollo. c nao |
| 01:53.45 | OluapPlayer | In a sec |
| 01:55.34 | Monet_ | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_yNJEuiEag |
| 01:55.44 | Monet_ | Might want ot turn the volume down |
| 01:57.14 | Monet_ | That trait of hers is quite characteristic of her |
| 01:58.04 | Monet_ | I don't think its pschic or anytihng, jsut really, really loud |
| 01:58.23 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian|STO: replied |
| 01:58.28 | AdmiralPanda | I just want to point out that this conversation shifted from poor pvp in STO, to poor representations of warrior races, to fanservice alien girls, to alien aliens, to WoW supremacy, to poor pvp in MMORTS's |
| 01:58.33 | AdmiralPanda | we went full circle |
| 01:58.34 | OluapPlayer | Also Augustex is a cool name |
| 01:59.42 | Hachiman | I gotta wonder about the population of wild/rebel Rovegar due to Vileraz IV's reputation as an absolute bitch |
| 01:59.56 | Monet_ | Hachiman: The "melts metal" point is reached when the sound goes from "normal womanly scream" to "tyore screech" |
| 02:00.07 | Hachiman | Geezush |
| 02:00.09 | Monet_ | tyre* |
| 02:00.22 | Monet_ | In terms of what it soudns like |
| 02:00.45 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: I imagine a fair number of rebel Rovegar exist |
| 02:00.45 | Monet_ | And that woman (Jool is her name), screams a LOT. |
| 02:01.05 | Hachiman | Monet_: Sounds like a trait that gets old fast |
| 02:01.12 | Cyrannian|STO | OluapPlayer: yay |
| 02:01.35 | Monet_ | I think there have been a few times where shes' been threatened to stop screaming |
| 02:02.17 | Monet_ | And one time her scream was used as welder. Triggered by snapping her thumb |
| 02:06.22 | Hachiman | Aaaand I should probably close that window |
| 02:06.27 | Hachiman | thunder2loud4me |
| 02:11.36 | Cyrannian|STO | The thunder ate them. |
| 02:18.45 | Cyrannian|STO | I got two new warbirds on the exchange relatively cheaply: http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/sto.gamepedia.com/6/68/Mirror_Mogai_Heavy_Warbird_Retrofit.jpg http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/sto.gamepedia.com/9/94/Rom_Ship_T%27varo.jpg |
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| 02:45.19 | DrodoEmpire | thinks of a way to stir up conversation |
| 02:45.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm... |
| 02:45.26 | DrodoEmpire | Oh! |
| 02:45.38 | DrodoEmpire | Does anyone else here play Shogun 2? |
| 02:50.55 | LordRaydon | raises hand |
| 02:50.59 | LordRaydon | Sometimes. |
| 03:10.42 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 03:14.53 | DrodoEmpire | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10474241_769887816406638_161020169633819605_n.jpg |
| 03:16.04 | Knight_Alien | It does! |
| 03:17.38 | OfficerJackal | Lol. X |
| 03:17.40 | OfficerJackal | XD* |
| 03:26.08 | DrodoEmpire | Also, debating fundementalist homophobic dickwads on facebook is fun! |
| 03:26.11 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 03:26.52 | DrodoEmpire | Well, to be honest its really fun; I'm ripping him a new asshole/ |
| 03:26.53 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 03:27.56 | OfficerJackal | Yeah. XD |
| 03:28.14 | DrodoEmpire | While he's spouting the same religious bullcrap, gettin' ALL CAPS SERIOUS, I'm just sort of knocking his "points" down, showing his hypocrisy, and mention that he's a |
| 03:28.26 | DrodoEmpire | *a retard as many times as possible in a paragraph. |
| 03:28.27 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 03:28.36 | DrodoEmpire | *mentioningh |
| 03:28.47 | TekDroid | lol |
| 03:30.57 | DrodoEmpire | Though to be honest he did sort of confuse me in his first message to me. He mentioned... I don't know what the hell to be honest; Something about my (nonexistant) daughter, gay people being secretly straight maybe? Something about a whorehouse? |
| 03:31.03 | DrodoEmpire | It was a mess. XD |
| 03:31.46 | TekDroid | O.o |
| 03:32.08 | DrodoEmpire | I'm sure he meant something somewhere, but I'll be damned. |
| 03:32.17 | DrodoEmpire | Damn fool's illiterate, at any rate. |
| 03:32.33 | TekDroid | There's a certain point where stupid becomes funny. After it it's pure facepalm though. :P |
| 03:32.39 | DrodoEmpire | Yep. |
| 03:32.51 | TekDroid | I was arguing a lot with one guy in a game who was an ignorant idiot. One of his posts basically argued "just because I don't know the game mechanics doesn't mean I don't know the game mechanics." XD |
| 03:33.15 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
| 03:33.18 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 03:33.50 | TekDroid | I ended up banging my head after every post. |
| 03:34.07 | DrodoEmpire | "NO SUCH THING AS "GAY" AS PERTAINING TO HOMOS. Check your dictionary--they are homos!!! And NO--it HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN PEOPLE ARE BORN THAT WAY!!!" - Here's the level of idiot I'm dealing with right now. |
| 03:34.40 | DrodoEmpire | I basically gave contrary evidence to every bit of that in my previous post and the one in response to that one. |
| 03:34.54 | TekDroid | Made funnier by the fact the guy doesn't k ow about the forum's IRC so there was a whole pile of us mocking him the whole time |
| 03:34.59 | TekDroid | And just... wow. |
| 03:35.01 | DrodoEmpire | yep. XD |
| 03:35.30 | DrodoEmpire | That was a followup to a much larger post about how I'd eventually "MEET GOD" and "BE FORCED TO BOW DOWN TO GOD" and I'd go to hell and all of hat bullshit. |
| 03:35.37 | DrodoEmpire | *that |
| 03:36.09 | DrodoEmpire | Which I always found funny; If this God guy's all loving, why does he send people to hell? At all? |
| 03:36.30 | DrodoEmpire | Especially on the grounds of completely arbitrary things that you can't change like being gay? |
| 03:36.39 | DrodoEmpire | Or working on a Sunday? |
| 03:36.50 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 03:37.09 | TekDroid | Eating shellfish is supposed to be one, IIRC. |
| 03:37.13 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 03:37.31 | TekDroid | Or mixed fabrics (or something like that) |
| 03:37.37 | DrodoEmpire | And also condoning and taking active part in massacres and ethnic cleansing more times then I care to mention in the Old Testament? |
| 03:38.07 | DrodoEmpire | Like, I dunno about you, but I wouldn't want this guy anywhere NEAR me. |
| 03:38.09 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 03:38.21 | TekDroid | Or simply: if he's all-powerful why are we able to not believe in him. :P |
| 03:38.27 | DrodoEmpire | True. |
| 03:39.00 | TekDroid | Also countering omnipotence with the good old "Paradox of the Stone". |
| 03:39.02 | DrodoEmpire | ...Aeo would be having an aneurysm by now if he where on. XD |
| 03:39.10 | TekDroid | >. > |
| 03:39.25 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway |
| 03:40.23 | DrodoEmpire | Bah, I wish fucktard mcgee here would respond already. XD |
| 03:40.39 | DrodoEmpire | I need more flaming to do; I have a bitchiness quota to fill! |
| 03:41.25 | TekDroid | The guy I mentioned was in my region's elections on NationStates. The guy didn't even know how his position worked. XD Or at least until someone messaged their guide on the topic, at which point he claimed to know all about the topic all-along. XD |
| 03:41.38 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
| 03:41.54 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, I hate people like that |
| 03:41.56 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 03:42.04 | DrodoEmpire | Conceited and whatnot |
| 03:42.20 | TekDroid | I called them out on it too. |
| 03:42.31 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 03:42.36 | Knight_Alien | I hate when other Christians act like complete assholes and they act like their better then you and they say shit like bow to God it makes us CHristains look terrible! |
| 03:43.01 | DrodoEmpire | almost says something but realizes it would have been REALLY BAD. |
| 03:43.12 | Knight_Alien | Then again thats the World in a nutshell. |
| 03:44.15 | TekDroid | Also they have a second nation that they continue to mention yet refuses to say who it is. Despite my little post with screenshots makimg it clear the region's government had known who it was for nearky three months. XD |
| 03:44.33 | Knight_Alien | Etheir your stupid and like everyone else,Fighting and shit or your Intelligent or a Outcast because you have different ideas! |
| 03:44.52 | Knight_Alien | That was going along with my nutshell part guys. |
| 03:44.53 | DrodoEmpire | That's organized religion for ya. :P |
| 03:47.25 | Knight_Alien | It just makes me annoyed when idots say stuff like Im baptized so that makes me a Good Christain and Atheists are Evil. |
| 03:47.50 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah! Atheists aren't evil! |
| 03:48.12 | DrodoEmpire | hides his ID card labelled "EVIL CANADIAN ATHEIST CONSPIRACY" in his pocket |
| 03:48.22 | Knight_Alien | Then agian ive always been Curious about different people. |
| 03:48.23 | DrodoEmpire | Tek, hide yours. |
| 03:48.24 | DrodoEmpire | Now. |
| 03:48.27 | DrodoEmpire | NOW. |
| 03:48.31 | Knight_Alien | XD |
| 03:48.40 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
| 03:50.19 | Knight_Alien | Well one example of this Atheist evil crap is when monty python was making that one Bible joke movie and the Whole Christain stuck a gun down their Throats. |
| 03:50.38 | Knight_Alien | *Christain faith* |
| 03:51.32 | DrodoEmpire | So today I learned that Infanterie de Marine are the best line infantry in FOTS... XD |
| 03:51.45 | DrodoEmpire | Like, better than gatling guns for rate of fire. |
| 03:52.04 | DrodoEmpire | And have better melee attack than Katana Samurai. XD |
| 03:52.25 | Knight_Alien | Wow. |
| 03:53.09 | DrodoEmpire | I set up a test game with, like, six units of them supported by a few Armstrong guns against some three-thousand samurai. |
| 03:53.15 | DrodoEmpire | They didn't lose a single man. |
| 03:53.30 | TekDroid | O.o |
| 03:53.46 | DrodoEmpire | Well I guess it helps that they have fucking bolt action rifles. |
| 03:53.47 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 03:53.47 | TekDroid | There's a reason the imperials won. |
| 03:54.05 | Knight_Alien | When japan realized it needed a upgrade... |
| 03:54.09 | DrodoEmpire | Yep |
| 03:54.52 | DrodoEmpire | Though despite that its still very much so possible to win as a hardcore traditionalist, and its almost essential to have some traditional samurai mixed in so your units action have a solution to melees. |
| 03:55.05 | DrodoEmpire | *actually |
| 03:55.09 | DrodoEmpire | Not "action" |
| 03:56.13 | DrodoEmpire | I know I won one battle by sneaking my entire army around there flank using dense forest and blitzing them from the flank. |
| 03:56.21 | Knight_Alien | So hows the Drodo in Europa? |
| 03:56.31 | DrodoEmpire | I pretty much abandoned that. :L |
| 03:56.35 | DrodoEmpire | I might pick it up |
| 03:57.00 | DrodoEmpire | But honestly, its always crashing for no clearcut reason and with these new updates I haven't a clue where to start anymore. |
| 03:57.26 | Knight_Alien | hmm? |
| 03:57.47 | DrodoEmpire | I'd love to do it, but as of right now? Its not going to happen for some time |
| 03:58.09 | Knight_Alien | It's Alright if you abandoned it I just wanted to know how it's going. |
| 03:58.21 | DrodoEmpire | Just too many obsticles, too many unsolvable little kinks in the code, it sucks. |
| 03:58.22 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry. |
| 03:58.33 | DrodoEmpire | Alright. |
| 03:58.39 | Knight_Alien | It's alright. |
| 03:58.45 | DrodoEmpire | Thanks. |
| 03:59.11 | Knight_Alien | Your welcome. |
| 04:00.00 | Knight_Alien | Have you ever been to the Point in your Fiction were you don't know what to do? |
| 04:01.10 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, yes... |
| 04:01.13 | DrodoEmpire | Trust me yes... |
| 04:01.25 | DrodoEmpire | I've been there and back a few times. |
| 04:01.26 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 04:03.04 | Knight_Alien | Im at that point I mean I just got done with my Eldarisian-Cultists war and I have been Editing my Fiction and All im doing is Just waiting For replies to Transmissions that are around a Month old and for a Conflict meeting. |
| 04:03.18 | DrodoEmpire | Well you can be more proactive. |
| 04:03.29 | DrodoEmpire | Do you have any colonies? |
| 04:03.53 | Knight_Alien | Yes http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eldarisian_Milky_Way_Colonies |
| 04:04.24 | DrodoEmpire | Try approaching someone in your colonial area for a fiction, or even in your home galaxy |
| 04:04.28 | DrodoEmpire | Just, anyone |
| 04:04.29 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 04:05.29 | Knight_Alien | You mean find someone with a Fiction near my Colonies and start to Contact them? |
| 04:05.31 | TekDroid | One problem with the GITO wormhole is it makes any plot involving attacking the Farengeto capital problematic. XD |
| 04:06.02 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm... |
| 04:06.36 | DrodoEmpire | Not to throw in another line of conversation, but I legitimately have no clue as to why gaiters have sort of disappeared from military uniform. :P |
| 04:06.43 | DrodoEmpire | They look AWESOME. |
| 04:07.02 | DrodoEmpire | And they're practical; Especially from horseback or in rough terrain. |
| 04:07.51 | DrodoEmpire | Well I guess that settles it; Drodo cavalry and some infantry use gaiters or puttees. :P |
| 04:08.12 | TekDroid | Since something striking that could go straight to Paris, Galactica or various DI and TIAF capitals, which means having multiple superpowers reacting fast in Farengeto gets attacked. XD |
| 04:10.27 | Knight_Alien | The only Fiction I truly need to contact is the TIAF they have not contacted me back on my Transmission on a Embassy and that's my first step before I ask about a Treaty for a Wormhole so i can go to Cyrannus. |
| 04:10.48 | Knight_Alien | And have talked to him about it. |
| 04:10.56 | TekDroid | Saying Farengeto gets progressively confusing... There's the species, the city, the planet, the system, the Republic, the region and the Trade Coalition. XD |
| 04:11.08 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
| 04:11.15 | Knight_Alien | Wow. |
| 04:11.52 | Knight_Alien | Soon the Farengeto Alliance will be formed XD |
| 04:11.56 | TekDroid | IC there's a reason that all happened, not that it makes it less confusing. |
| 04:12.44 | TekDroid | The primary star isn't named Farengeto so might change the system name. |
| 04:14.31 | TekDroid | IC, the extinct race was named after the planet. The planet became a neutral region that gained strong economic and political importance, and was then chosen as the capital of the new Farengeto Republic. The Coalition then used its titular empire in the name. |
| 04:14.57 | Knight_Alien | But I think the Main reason Tybusen Hasn't sent me a Message back is problably because he has Life Events like Traveling and so on. |
| 04:15.01 | DrodoEmpire | Bah! I can't find that picture. |
| 04:15.03 | DrodoEmpire | >:( |
| 04:15.12 | DrodoEmpire | Oh! There it is. XD |
| 04:15.17 | TekDroid | Which picture? |
| 04:15.53 | DrodoEmpire | Its a picture from the second world war of a polish lancer getting ready to take a swing at a german on a motorcycle. |
| 04:16.01 | TekDroid | ah. |
| 04:16.02 | DrodoEmpire | http://www.napolun.com/mirror/napoleonistyka.atspace.com/img/lancer_versus_tank.jpg |
| 04:16.46 | DrodoEmpire | And no, the polish lancers never, ever, EVER, directly engaged the German panzers from horseback, contrary to popular myth. |
| 04:17.11 | DrodoEmpire | Though they did rout a brigade of German armour by scaring the shit out of them. XD |
| 04:17.30 | TekDroid | lol |
| 04:17.36 | DrodoEmpire | Basically they ambushed and routed from horseback german infantry and there accompanying tanks fled too |
| 04:17.44 | Knight_Alien | The Germans are like we should of brought the Panzers!. |
| 04:18.10 | DrodoEmpire | Yep. XD |
| 04:18.38 | DrodoEmpire | But in the end the cavalry did play a decisive role in defending Poland from German |
| 04:18.41 | DrodoEmpire | *Germany |
| 04:19.02 | DrodoEmpire | And it was, in fact, one of Germany's most costly campaigns; Poland was no pushover |
| 04:19.28 | Knight_Alien | Well if I know something about my ''Fatherland'' |
| 04:19.43 | Knight_Alien | It's that the Germans love ze tanks. |
| 04:19.53 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, enough cavalry/poland-wanking for today. |
| 04:21.03 | Knight_Alien | What to disscuss? |
| 04:21.15 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo Cavalry! |
| 04:21.16 | DrodoEmpire | :D |
| 04:21.23 | DrodoEmpire | Nah, jk...ish. |
| 04:21.24 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 04:21.46 | DrodoEmpire | Though I still do need to upload a decent drawing of them soon. |
| 04:21.49 | DrodoEmpire | I have a few |
| 04:22.06 | DrodoEmpire | I just hope they aren't damaged or crinkled. |
| 04:23.35 | Knight_Alien | At one point in time I used to draw the Eldarisian Empires Political Influence....Then Tybusen said he was going to make a new Bunsen one. |
| 04:23.46 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 04:24.27 | DrodoEmpire | http://getasword.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/German-ww2-cavalry.jpg - Okay, I MUST draw this. XD |
| 04:25.14 | Knight_Alien | Hmm... |
| 04:25.34 | Knight_Alien | Goodluck XD |
| 04:25.40 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, really. |
| 04:25.47 | DrodoEmpire | Haven't drawn a lot recently |
| 04:25.57 | DrodoEmpire | So I'll need some warmup |
| 04:26.16 | DrodoEmpire | Meh, I'll probably have a lot of time and space to draw while I'm over in the Cape. |
| 04:27.22 | DrodoEmpire | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Battle_of_Khalkhin_Gol-Mongolian_cavalry.jpg - Okay okay this is the last one; But I have to share this because its mongol cavalry. XD |
| 04:27.23 | Knight_Alien | I used to Draw people then I started to Draw landscape and I was really good then i went back to people and I sucked XD |
| 04:27.56 | DrodoEmpire | I'm sort of the opposite; I can draw people fairly well I guess but ask me to draw a background and I'm lost |
| 04:28.53 | Knight_Alien | Like I can draw Nature really well the other types are Medium. |
| 04:28.56 | DrodoEmpire | Though shadows and especially crinkles and folds in clothing get me; I have no clue how people manage to draw them. |
| 04:29.24 | DrodoEmpire | Which sucks because military uniforms seem to be the wrinkliest motherfuckers on the planet. XD |
| 04:29.33 | Knight_Alien | Those things Shadows and Crinkles crushed my people dream. |
| 04:29.40 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 04:31.35 | Knight_Alien | Someone I have approched in my Fiction is supriseing the Drodo. |
| 04:32.05 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 04:32.20 | Knight_Alien | Embassy. |
| 04:32.25 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 04:33.44 | Knight_Alien | Im actually Suprised my Diplomat Ioi is still alive based on the places I send him from a Diplo Mission to the GSC a Rivial in Religion to the War agianst the Consumer. XD |
| 04:35.07 | Knight_Alien | And now hes going to Fight alongside the Humans and other Powers to stop a lets just say Controlling Invasion.. |
| 04:35.54 | TekDroid | I'm going to head out and get some sleep. |
| 05:31.18 | Knight_Alien | Goodnight. |
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| 07:15.36 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 07:27.07 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 07:27.51 | Tybusen | Hi |
| 07:28.25 | Tybusen | I'm a little irritated with Spore right now because it crashed right as I was putting finishing touches on a new character model |
| 08:13.04 | Liquid_Ink | I renovated the Nether command post |
| 08:15.30 | Liquid_Ink | It now has goddamn windows |
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| 08:53.12 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 08:54.50 | Xho | Hello |
| 08:55.18 | Liquid_Ink | How are you? |
| 08:56.41 | Xho | Alright I guess |
| 08:56.44 | Xho | I went out last night |
| 08:56.57 | Xho | Would have been better if it were not for everyone flooring themselves by half past 10 |
| 08:57.27 | Xho | I went back home because everyone was too drunk to socialise with properly |
| 08:59.26 | Liquid_Ink | I see |
| 08:59.55 | Tybusen | Liquid_Ink: I didn't put in any windows in the initial build of the command post since I didn't want Ghasts sneaking up on me while I was still Ghast-proofing the walkway and base and have them blow the windows out |
| 09:00.25 | Xho | I'm beginning to see why now that Oluap doesn't like drunk people on the IRC |
| 09:01.19 | Liquid_Ink | Tybusen: I feel it needs a definate expansion to make it actually more of a reasonable fortress. |
| 09:01.52 | Liquid_Ink | More and larger farms, wide spaces for relaxation with lots of paintings, that kind of thing. |
| 09:02.01 | Liquid_Ink | Oh, and would you like a copy of the book I wrote? |
| 09:02.05 | Tybusen | Sure |
| 09:02.26 | Tybusen | I might expand it if I have enough cobblestone after I finish some other projects I was working on |
| 09:02.37 | Liquid_Ink | I have tons of cobblestone for you. |
| 09:02.44 | Tybusen | Neato |
| 09:02.52 | Tybusen | I might add a second floor |
| 09:02.53 | Liquid_Ink | And glass panes |
| 09:03.24 | Tybusen | The only problem with expanding is that a Ghast might be able to bombard the inside of the fortress while I'm expanding |
| 09:03.47 | Xho | My bad |
| 09:03.56 | Liquid_Ink | Your bad? |
| 09:03.57 | Tybusen | Though it's not like there's anything valuable or vulnerable to explosions in the fortress |
| 09:04.00 | Xho | I spawned a swarm of Ghasts in the Nether for fun |
| 09:04.08 | Xho | I killed most of them but left two or three |
| 09:04.23 | Liquid_Ink | ... |
| 09:04.32 | Xho | hih |
| 09:04.38 | Xho | I can kill the other one for you if you want |
| 09:04.42 | Tybusen | Two of those Ghasts were tormenting me every time I went into the Nether before I built the covered walkway |
| 09:05.02 | Tybusen | I managed to kill one by shooting arrows through the gaps in the walkway |
| 09:05.29 | Tybusen | BTW Xho, thanks for the Infinity Bow (since I'm pretty sure you're the one who left it there) |
| 09:07.17 | Xho | Ah that was you who took it |
| 09:08.20 | Tybusen | I thought it was the secret chest and you gave up on hiding it |
| 09:08.44 | Xho | It wasn't |
| 09:08.56 | Xho | I destroyed the secret chest in the end since no one wanted to find it |
| 09:09.08 | Liquid_Ink | ... I was interested |
| 09:10.59 | Xho | The chest had a set of enchanted golden armour, enchanted golden tools and 21 diamonds |
| 09:11.57 | Liquid_Ink | It would have taken ages to actually get to The End. |
| 09:12.49 | Tybusen | I think Panda found it at that beacon tower that you built near my house, though he didn't take the stuff inside |
| 09:13.11 | Xho | I told him where it was, he didn't want it |
| 09:13.22 | Xho | So I just destroyed it after that |
| 09:13.41 | Tybusen | Eh, gold armor and tools aren't that durable anyways |
| 09:13.51 | Liquid_Ink | Tubysen: You are now a proud owner of my book. |
| 09:13.56 | Xho | It was originally inside a tree a fair distance from my fortress |
| 09:13.59 | Xho | I moved it closer |
| 09:14.19 | Tybusen | Liquid_Ink: Alright, I'll check it out the next time I go on the server. It's a little late for me to go on right now |
| 09:15.13 | Tybusen | So I recently decided to put my Spore graphics settings on High instead of putting them on Low as I normally do |
| 09:15.33 | Xho | Did your game die |
| 09:15.41 | Tybusen | I was blown away by how gorgeous the creature models look in High compared to Low |
| 09:15.58 | Tybusen | Actually, my game is more or less running at the same speed it was in Low |
| 09:16.37 | Tybusen | Though so far it seems the graphics improvements only affect the creature editor |
| 09:16.40 | Tybusen | Which is a shame |
| 09:17.05 | Liquid_Ink | Hey Xho, next time you're on the server, could you possibly supply me with two particular saplings? |
| 09:17.52 | Tybusen | But now that I know my computer can handle it, I'm totally going to update all of my creature and captain pictures with the new high-def versions |
| 09:19.52 | Tybusen | Anyways I'm gonna go to bed |
| 09:20.05 | Tybusen | Night all (well it's probably morning for all of you) |
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| 09:34.43 | AdmiralPanda | hello all |
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| 09:46.10 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 10:12.14 | Xho | AdmiralPanda: Didn't tell me there was an Ice Plains biome |
| 10:12.28 | AdmiralPanda | ? |
| 10:12.35 | AdmiralPanda | oh on the server |
| 10:12.59 | AdmiralPanda | uh oh, you might stumble onto my secret weapons facility |
| 10:13.16 | Xho | I'm playing creative remember hur |
| 10:14.03 | AdmiralPanda | I know |
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| 10:18.57 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 10:19.33 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 10:20.28 | AdmiralPanda | hi Monet |
| 10:21.22 | Xho | I'm currently building a house near X 300 Y -100 so if that's close to you |
| 10:22.13 | Liquid_Ink | That's 38 blocks away from my claim |
| 10:27.17 | Liquid_Ink | Wait, no. |
| 10:27.25 | Liquid_Ink | I derped math |
| 10:38.35 | Monet_ | Xho: Yesterday AP and I were discussing about possibly the community working together to build a town o nthe server. What do you think? |
| 10:44.44 | Liquid_Ink | I'm game. |
| 10:44.49 | Xho | Sure why not |
| 10:47.01 | Liquid_Ink | I thought we had a neat town going already |
| 10:48.05 | Xho | It's more of a base startup island |
| 10:48.13 | Xho | I need to go back to sleep, not feeling too good |
| 10:48.16 | Monet_ | Yeah, there's not much coherency |
| 10:49.00 | Liquid_Ink | So we find a nice clearly somewhere else and build a town there? |
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| 10:50.30 | Xho_ | Either I'm not feeling very well or I'm exceedingly hungry |
| 10:50.45 | Monet_ | Try eating something |
| 10:51.19 | Monet_ | LiquidInk: Yeah. Although where we set it up I'm not sure. |
| 10:52.22 | Monet_ | BTW Xho, those coordinates are quite distant fro mme |
| 10:53.51 | Liquid_Ink | I think we should take our design from the fourth Doctor's idea of a typical medieval scene. "Protective castle, small village around it like ducklings crowding around their mother." |
| 11:01.14 | Monet_ | Maybe something a little more orderly than a huddle of huts? |
| 11:04.25 | Xho_ | Large houses |
| 11:04.28 | Xho_ | And cathedrals |
| 11:04.30 | Monet_ | If we are buidling a castle, I suggest something li this http://freusdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/freshizer/b45037b114e861784e926623f91b556d_a-photography-of-the-german-castle-hohenzollern-1600x1066-920-470-c.jpg |
| 11:04.33 | Xho_ | Mainly cathedrals |
| 11:04.40 | Xho_ | And castles |
| 11:07.09 | Liquid_Ink | I think we should wait until 1.8 for the new materials. |
| 11:07.16 | Xho_ | Feeing a little better now since I had a box of mango |
| 11:08.58 | Xho_ | http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/File:Ocean_monument.png Oh my |
| 11:10.00 | Monet_ | Yeah i nthe upcoming patch we're getting Atlantis |
| 11:10.58 | Xho_ | "When struck by lightning, villagers turn into witches" |
| 11:11.07 | Xho_ | I call faggotry on that |
| 11:11.11 | Liquid_Ink | I saw a witch on the server the other day. |
| 11:11.22 | Liquid_Ink | I killed and got nothing in return. |
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| 11:12.16 | Monet_ | Thinking about it...there's irony in the legend of Atlantis. Plato talks about it as a city of great riches and decedance that became a hellhole due to the greedy and selfish nature of man...and people since have been trying to find the city to either get famous or get rich off its wealth. |
| 11:12.17 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 11:15.33 | Monet_ | PLato may have used the story as an analogy to enlighten society to the innate greed and selfishness of man, and the behaviour of those who want to get rich off the city's remains prove him exactly right. |
| 11:16.51 | Technobliterator | hi |
| 11:19.19 | Monet_ | WHich makes me think: Out of al lthe peopel who know of the legend of Alantis, how many are aware how badly the city went ot shit before getting swallowed by a tidal wave. |
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| 11:22.58 | Liquid_Ink | What do you mean you can't restore my previous session? |
| 11:26.47 | Xho_ | Honestly I don't know much about Atlantis |
| 11:28.35 | Monet_ | Although I have noticed a trend: The more bluntly a story's moral is delivered, the less likely people will learn. |
| 11:28.39 | Monet_ | Look at Avatar. |
| 11:31.44 | Monet_ | You can tell a story is badly delivered when the audience sides with the mercs who are there only to earn a paycheck than the pretentiously-environmentalist native Na'vi |
| 11:32.27 | Monet_ | Or the big amoral corporation who would blow up an entire village to make a killer profit back home |
| 11:39.49 | Monet_ | Actually we humans appear predesigned to hate being forcefed stuff |
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| 11:42.21 | Wormy | hi |
| 11:42.50 | Monet_ | Wormy: Hi |
| 11:45.27 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Fun_page restyled |
| 11:54.18 | Xho_ | k den |
| 11:54.48 | Liquid_Ink | I we still discussing possible designs for a village on the server? |
| 11:57.28 | Monet_ | I think so... |
| 11:57.48 | Liquid_Ink | *are |
| 11:57.49 | Monet_ | Xho_ is suggesting we make it grand |
| 11:58.37 | Liquid_Ink | I feel we go with a massive palace like that picture either you or Xho posted, then a really classy village around it, then we go for a sprawling slum around that. |
| 11:59.04 | Monet_ | That picture was mine |
| 12:00.45 | Liquid_Ink | And vast farms. |
| 12:02.35 | Monet_ | OKay so that's one for an early/high medieval village. |
| 12:03.02 | Monet_ | Xho AdmiralPanda Wormy any suggestions on what our town could look like? |
| 12:04.03 | AdmiralPanda | I just want to say, at this point we might as well just be playing creative. All we're talking about is aesthetics, rather than the actual functional components needed to sustain a group of players while they work towards an objective. |
| 12:04.53 | Monet_ | Hmm, maybe the castle comes later then |
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| 12:13.24 | AdmiralPanda | hi u |
| 12:13.33 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 12:22.47 | Monet_ | Xho has found a savannah region with some big mountains at Z1233 |
| 12:25.12 | Liquid_Ink | Damn |
| 12:25.27 | Liquid_Ink | Now I don't have a monopoly on arcadia wood |
| 12:30.12 | Monet_ | He's found grassland at Z2000+ |
| 12:40.32 | Monet_ | I think Xho has found the ideal spot |
| 12:42.06 | Liquid_Ink | Oh? |
| 12:42.16 | Liquid_Ink | I'm coming on there |
| 12:43.55 | Monet_ | We have two options for linking up the town to the rest of the map: A command block teleporter or a railway |
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| 12:57.24 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 13:04.24 | Liquid_Ink | Or Nether railway! |
| 13:04.30 | Liquid_Ink | (It'll be shorter) |
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| 13:10.00 | dino_ | hellow |
| 13:15.48 | Wormy_ | BRB |
| 13:30.28 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 13:36.49 | dino_ | :D |
| 13:41.03 | TekDroid | Hello dino_. |
| 13:41.12 | dino_ | hello tekdroid |
| 13:41.24 | TekDroid | ~give dino_ a cookie |
| 13:41.25 | infobot | ACTION gives dino_ a home-baked fortune cookie to cheer him up. |
| 13:44.04 | dino_ | oh thank you |
| 13:56.17 | TekDroid | So now they're saying the missile that shot down the airliner was Russian-made |
| 13:57.12 | Monet_ | That shouldn't incriminate the Russians though should it? |
| 13:57.42 | Monet_ | African war parties use thousands of AK-47 but you din't hear Russia getting much shit for that. |
| 13:58.14 | TekDroid | The thing is that to target something flying that high takes high level equipment. |
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| 14:05.28 | AdmiralPanda | AK's are readily mass-produced, KUG missiles on the other hand are really hard to get a hold of |
| 14:06.20 | TekDroid | and to operate. |
| 14:09.21 | TekDroid | It's being claimed that rebels are taking bodies and debris away from the crash site too. |
| 14:14.14 | Monet_ | I can't help but feel this is exactly what whoever shot the plane down wanted |
| 14:15.18 | TekDroid | Well they had previously shot down Ukrainian military planes, so this could have been a case of accidental targeting. |
| 14:16.31 | Monet_ | Or the rebels want to make headlines |
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| 14:17.23 | Sporeraptor | hi |
| 14:17.30 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 14:19.36 | AdmiralPanda | There were intercepted communications indicating that the crew operating the weapon didn't realise the target was civilian until after they reached the wreckage |
| 14:23.53 | TekDroid | I think there's a lot of evidence of this. |
| 14:24.51 | Angrybirds | test |
| 14:25.07 | TekDroid | pass |
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| 14:26.34 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 14:26.34 | Wormy | hi |
| 14:26.54 | Xho_ | Just had a lot of carbs and I suddenly feel a lot better |
| 14:26.55 | OluapPlayer | wiggly |
| 14:26.58 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 14:27.05 | Xho_ | u |
| 14:27.10 | OluapPlayer | where were u all day yesterday |
| 14:27.32 | Xho_ | I went to work and then to a party |
| 14:27.40 | Sporeraptor | hi |
| 14:27.42 | Xho_ | You'll be proud to know that I did not get drunk |
| 14:27.52 | OluapPlayer | is proud |
| 14:28.09 | Xho_ | But I didn't eat for like 22 hours so I was on borderline starvation |
| 14:28.17 | Xho_ | I just ate a small child so I'm much better now |
| 14:28.36 | OluapPlayer | You didn't eat for 22 hours, I spent 3 hours eating nothing but pizza |
| 14:28.56 | Xho_ | u wat |
| 14:29.13 | OluapPlayer | pizzu |
| 14:29.34 | Monet_ | That's a long time to spend eating pizza |
| 14:29.52 | Xho_ | I need to get on and do something on the wiki |
| 14:29.57 | Xho_ | I might redo the Kicathian militia |
| 14:30.06 | Xho_ | But so much effort to make things on Spore |
| 14:30.17 | OluapPlayer | edit Pologroos prologuo |
| 14:30.29 | Xho_ | nah |
| 14:30.34 | OluapPlayer | yinh |
| 14:30.35 | OluapPlayer | g |
| 14:30.39 | Monet_ | Xho_: FIll in Kicath stuff on the DI provinces page |
| 14:31.33 | Xho_ | Monet_: Fien gimme link |
| 14:32.34 | Monet_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Provinces#Kicath_Enclave here, you can change the name if you like as well. |
| 14:33.34 | OluapPlayer | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140718152242/spore/images/e/e8/Vida%27Rra.png don't think I posted the updated model here |
| 14:33.35 | Xho_ | Do we know how many systems the Kicath have |
| 14:33.47 | Xho_ | Vida'Rra - I CAN'T SEE SHIT |
| 14:33.57 | Xho_ | Nice model though |
| 14:34.20 | Monet_ | Xho_: No but the earliest colonies may date back to getting stopmed by the Xhodocto |
| 14:34.30 | Xho_ | Right |
| 14:34.50 | Xho_ | Probably even before that since the Kicath have been there since 150,000 BC or so |
| 14:35.08 | Xho_ | Even earlier actually |
| 14:35.13 | Xho_ | Since before 161,028 BC |
| 14:35.36 | Monet_ | That's a long time ago definitely. |
| 14:35.50 | OluapPlayer | Monet_: I was reading some Dwarf Fortress stuff yesterday about what you can do by modding the game, one of the mentions was of a chicken which instead of laying eggs, could give live birth to swarms of bees |
| 14:35.57 | Xho_ | BEEEEEEEEEEES |
| 14:36.11 | OluapPlayer | My exact reaction |
| 14:36.37 | Xho_ | I'm gonna use a random number generator to give me a date for the establishment of the enclave |
| 14:37.28 | Xho_ | 159,665 BC then |
| 14:38.59 | Monet_ | Let me check the state of the Imperium back then |
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| 14:41.09 | Xho_ | Now when we say head of state on that |
| 14:41.17 | Xho_ | Is that head of the Enclave or the head of the Remnant |
| 14:41.23 | Monet_ | Enclave. |
| 14:42.33 | Monet_ | Okay so the Enclave is 141,200 Imperial years old which puts it during... ~ID.78213 |
| 14:42.40 | Monet_ | born during* |
| 14:43.15 | Monet_ | So they would have joined while the Imperium was under the rule of House Khaxvis. |
| 14:43.29 | Xho_ | Sounds about right |
| 14:43.58 | Monet_ | Presumably the enclave wouldn't be smal either if its this old |
| 14:44.55 | Monet_ | All Imperial dminsitration asks when its provinces want ot expand is to provide the admins with a record of where your newly-established coloneis are. Other than that, it gives largely free-reign when it comes to peaceful epxansion. |
| 14:46.24 | Xho_ | Hm |
| 14:46.27 | Xho_ | How large would say it is then |
| 14:47.54 | Monet_ | Similarly-aged provinces have territories that range between 70,00-300,000 systems. |
| 14:48.02 | Xho_ | Right |
| 14:48.21 | Xho_ | 154013 is the randomly generated number |
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| 14:51.33 | Millisec | hi. |
| 14:54.56 | Millisec | Anyone active here? |
| 14:55.15 | Monet_ | Hi |
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| 14:55.28 | Millisec | hey monet |
| 14:55.32 | OfficerJackal | Hello! |
| 14:55.35 | Millisec | hey oj |
| 14:56.49 | Sporeraptor | hi |
| 14:57.15 | Millisec | how's everything been since I was last here? |
| 14:59.59 | Xho_ | Monet_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Provinces#Kicath_Enclave Done |
| 15:00.05 | Millisec | wow |
| 15:00.09 | Millisec | hi xho |
| 15:00.19 | Xho_ | Hello |
| 15:00.48 | Millisec | I'm thinking of making a proper return to the wiki fic-verse |
| 15:00.57 | Millisec | probably will |
| 15:02.43 | Monet_ | Xho_: Looks good. |
| 15:04.01 | Millisec | I second that |
| 15:04.15 | Monet_ | I would mention that most Grand Senate reps are Draconis but...I'll alow it on grounds that the Draconsi are smart enough to know that the Draconis *DON'T* like being told whatto do. |
| 15:04.28 | Monet_ | the Kicath* |
| 15:04.29 | Millisec | http://www.sporistics.com/?p=asset:500975058970 one of my latest creatiojs |
| 15:04.36 | Millisec | creations* |
| 15:05.16 | Monet_ | Reminds me of those sandcrawlers from Star Wars. |
| 15:05.32 | Millisec | exactly |
| 15:05.49 | Millisec | though they are flat topped |
| 15:06.02 | Millisec | and this has a crick in it |
| 15:07.16 | Xho_ | Draconis - i am grand senate rep Kicath - no Draconis - but Kicath - NO SOUP FOR YOU |
| 15:07.33 | Millisec | http://www.sporistics.com/?p=asset:500974212607 |
| 15:07.54 | Millisec | I object to kicath decision |
| 15:08.02 | Millisec | soup for everyone |
| 15:08.20 | Xho_ | Reminds me of the Drifters from Borderlands |
| 15:08.22 | Xho_ | I hate Drifters |
| 15:08.23 | Wormy | Well I want cold soup |
| 15:08.24 | Xho_ | So much |
| 15:08.27 | Millisec | *universe turns into hot soup* |
| 15:08.40 | Millisec | too bad, wormy |
| 15:08.57 | Wormy | cools the universe down |
| 15:08.58 | Millisec | that was made in triwl |
| 15:09.09 | Millisec | trial |
| 15:09.11 | Millisec | yes |
| 15:09.20 | Xho_ | I imagine the Imperium are quite wary of the Kicathian Enclave and their contact with the Remnant |
| 15:10.24 | Millisec | I will have to design the magalin |
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| 15:10.33 | Millisec | hi tek |
| 15:10.44 | Sporeraptor | hi |
| 15:10.46 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 15:11.27 | Monet_ | Xho_: They don't mind trade although there is a little concern in regard to handing the Enclave back to the Remnant |
| 15:12.29 | Millisec | heughly shit. I'm using Netscape |
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| 15:14.01 | Millisec | welcome jo |
| 15:14.55 | Millisec | I want the magalin to have separated factions of sorts |
| 15:15.07 | TechnoIsBack | oh boy |
| 15:15.11 | TechnoIsBack | there are lightning storms here |
| 15:15.18 | Millisec | oh boy |
| 15:15.27 | Millisec | is that bad? |
| 15:15.50 | TechnoIsBack | well as long as I stay inside, not really |
| 15:15.55 | TechnoIsBack | just disrupts my internet |
| 15:16.55 | Millisec | whew |
| 15:17.16 | Millisec | if you don't remembernme, it's an older Needles |
| 15:17.21 | Millisec | more matured |
| 15:18.09 | Millisec | now trying to create a new empires |
| 15:18.12 | Millisec | empire |
| 15:18.20 | Millisec | to sustain |
| 15:19.04 | Millisec | without the form |
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| 15:21.08 | Millisec_ | dang wifi |
| 15:21.12 | ImpyDroid | Hmmm, I wonder |
| 15:21.26 | ImpyDroid | Are there any nymph-like creatures in the Fantasyverse? |
| 15:21.28 | Millisec_ | imp! hey |
| 15:22.29 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 15:22.31 | Monet_ | Not that I know of |
| 15:22.40 | Xho_ | We have nymphomaniacs but not nymphs |
| 15:23.04 | Millisec_ | what's new on the wiki |
| 15:23.27 | Millisec_ | really, xho |
| 15:23.33 | Millisec_ | really |
| 15:25.56 | Millisec_ | I see not much has changed, then |
| 15:26.32 | Monet_ | Trying to think....a lot has actually happened. |
| 15:26.39 | Monet_ | Like the Gigaqudrantic Conflicts. |
| 15:26.45 | Monet_ | And New Dawn finally ending |
| 15:26.48 | Millisec_ | Wow |
| 15:26.57 | Millisec_ | I should have been here |
| 15:27.01 | Millisec_ | for this |
| 15:27.23 | Millisec_ | well, I have to get these magalin made |
| 15:31.21 | ImpyDroid | I'd make nymphs but I am not sure if making an entire species of naked sex-crazed women, even if they are nature spirits, is such a good idea |
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| 15:34.09 | Millisec | oy |
| 15:37.17 | Monet_ | Sorry i'm watching Nerd3 play KSP |
| 15:37.25 | Millisec | one of my favs |
| 15:37.43 | Millisec | see the spaceplane⢠one yet? |
| 15:37.55 | Monet_ | You mean where he's trying ot biuld a sworking spaceplane? |
| 15:38.07 | Millisec | yep |
| 15:38.18 | Monet_ | That's what I'm watching |
| 15:38.25 | Millisec | ohhhgoo |
| 15:38.47 | Millisec | he completely forgets control surfaces |
| 15:38.48 | Monet_ | I'm surprised he has yet to try putting wings on the massive fuel tank |
| 15:39.52 | Millisec | he never uses deltas |
| 15:40.28 | Millisec | oh god, he goes Danny and he doesn't know it |
| 15:41.15 | Monet_ | He mentions Scott Manley a lot |
| 15:41.22 | Millisec | yeeep |
| 15:41.45 | Monet_ | That fuel tank he's using looks li a crab |
| 15:41.50 | Monet_ | like* |
| 15:41.52 | Millisec | yeeeeep |
| 15:42.04 | Millisec | he's. nut |
| 15:42.07 | Millisec | s |
| 15:42.30 | Monet_ | And he just pulled off a Top GUn! |
| 15:42.38 | Millisec | MMMMHM |
| 15:42.42 | Millisec | RIGHT |
| 15:43.15 | Monet_ | WHen he declared he'd do a flyby of the space base I heard Top Gun's theme in my head |
| 15:43.28 | Millisec | oh my god u |
| 15:43.55 | Monet_ | What? |
| 15:44.15 | Millisec | u too thought of iy |
| 15:44.17 | Millisec | it |
| 15:45.10 | Monet_ | "You leave with an explosion, I have not only reinvented space flight I've made it AWESOME!" |
| 15:45.47 | Millisec | YEEEEEES, THAT'S THE LINE |
| 15:46.31 | Monet_ | That was fun |
| 15:46.43 | Monet_ | Shame that the plane would die above 20km |
| 15:46.54 | Millisec | it was |
| 15:47.13 | Millisec | I really want to make the Magalin |
| 15:47.40 | Millisec | but I may, as always, need assistance... |
| 15:49.02 | Millisec | monet_, you possibly willing to help |
| 15:49.05 | Millisec | ? |
| 15:49.11 | Monet_ | I'd be more than happy |
| 15:49.34 | Millisec | #magalindomain |
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| 16:07.54 | Millisec_ | bye, me |
| 16:11.07 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 16:14.46 | Xho_ | I'm making a Kicathian Dreadnought at the moment |
| 16:17.04 | Millisec_ | Niiice |
| 16:17.22 | Xho_ | Needless to say it's probably the most intimidating looking ship I've made |
| 16:17.24 | Millisec_ | I sort of wish I were home |
| 16:18.31 | Monet_ | This makes me curious now as to what it looks like |
| 16:20.16 | Millisec_ | Same here |
| 16:21.00 | Monet_ | "this game is roleplaying in Austrailia isn't it?" >> Nerd3 on Fallout New Vegas |
| 16:22.04 | Millisec_ | Hoh |
| 16:22.06 | Millisec_ | Hohoh |
| 16:22.19 | Millisec_ | WOOOOHOHOHOLOLHOHOLH*splat* |
| 16:22.42 | Angrybirds | I think you just broke Millisec. |
| 16:23.29 | TekDroid | fixes the millisecond digit on the clock |
| 16:23.59 | Millisec_ | boots up |
| 16:24.14 | Millisec_ | *BNNNNGGGG* Uhh...uhm...hello again |
| 16:26.16 | Millisec_ | Bye! |
| 16:26.42 | TekDroid | hides the baseball bat and broken clock |
| 16:26.53 | Xho_ | Deus Ex referenec? |
| 16:26.55 | Xho_ | reference? |
| 16:27.27 | Xho_ | Monet_: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719162629/spore/images/3/34/KicathianDreadnought.png Made one of these |
| 16:27.45 | Monet_ | Shiny |
| 16:28.16 | Xho_ | I'm gonna redo all of the Kicath ships in that style now |
| 16:28.26 | Xho_ | Black and cyan cyberpunk ships are now out of the window |
| 16:28.40 | Xho_ | The Dreadnought looks a lot more serious than their other ships |
| 16:29.03 | TekDroid | That's pretty cool. Really sharp and shiny. |
| 16:29.54 | OluapPlayer | speer |
| 16:30.54 | Xho_ | I don't think the fluid motion suits the Kicath really |
| 16:30.59 | Xho_ | Sharp designs do definitely |
| 16:31.11 | Xho_ | Or a 70/30 Sharp ratio |
| 16:32.39 | Xho_ | I'm still figuring the length of it though |
| 16:32.45 | Xho_ | Long and scary is all I have to go by at the moment |
| 16:34.01 | Xho_ | Dreadnought is more of an umbrella term really |
| 16:34.03 | dino_ | @Xho: Oh nice dradnought1 |
| 16:34.08 | Xho_ | Kicath probably have many kinds of dreadnoughts |
| 16:34.20 | TekDroid | Xho_: Give it a slightly wider width than the rest of your ships and estimate the relative length from there? |
| 16:34.49 | Xho_ | Well |
| 16:35.20 | Xho_ | Let's give it a width of 1,750m |
| 16:35.33 | TekDroid | O.O |
| 16:35.50 | Xho_ | So you're probably looking at somewhere between 18,000 - 22,000 metres |
| 16:36.04 | TekDroid | O.O |
| 16:36.21 | Monet_ | Big ship |
| 16:36.41 | Xho_ | Kicath - big ship stab through tiny planet peepl |
| 16:37.02 | Xho_ | Not sure what to call it though |
| 16:37.08 | Xho_ | I'll have a look at a thesaurus |
| 16:37.56 | Xho_ | Either the Pantheon Class or the Nihilist Class |
| 16:38.35 | Monet_ | Pantheon Class osunds good |
| 16:38.42 | Xho_ | Rightio then |
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| 16:40.18 | Xho_ | Now here comes the specs of weapons |
| 16:40.24 | Xho_ | Which I am no good at |
| 16:40.39 | Xho_ | What kind of weapons would a high Tier 2 have on a 22,000 metre long ship |
| 16:41.44 | Monet_ | Turbolasers, plasma cannons, railguns that can fire projectiles close to the speed of light |
| 16:41.53 | Monet_ | This is the basic stuff |
| 16:42.00 | Xho_ | Okay what about superweapons hur |
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| 16:42.56 | Monet_ | Well...cosnidering that a relativistic shell has enough momentum to the tsar bomba look like a firecracker when it hists something...there's spacetime weapons |
| 16:43.03 | Monet_ | to make the* |
| 16:43.38 | Xho_ | Kicath - u mad brah |
| 16:44.55 | Wormy | hi |
| 16:45.29 | Monet_ | Wormy: Xho needs help arming his tier 2 superdreadnought |
| 16:45.42 | Xho_ | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719162629/spore/images/3/34/KicathianDreadnought.png Looks like this by the way |
| 16:45.56 | Wormy | A relativistic weapon does actually count as metric technology given it involving velocities approahing c |
| 16:45.59 | OluapPlayer | Kamikaze bombing |
| 16:46.33 | Wormy | That looks awesome, yes I'd love to think up some technologies for it |
| 16:47.43 | TekDroid | I think a 10km+ railggun could be extremely lethal. >.> |
| 16:48.20 | Monet_ | Tekdroid: The Imperium's warlord-class uses something like that |
| 16:49.18 | Xho_ | I also need things like transport |
| 16:49.31 | Xho_ | Since the Kicath do have hyperdrives that's already answered |
| 16:49.35 | OluapPlayer | Nu is the transport |
| 16:49.38 | Xho_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Pantheon-Class_Dreadnought There's the page as it is now |
| 16:49.59 | TekDroid | You need internal transport. That thing's the size of a city. :P |
| 16:50.57 | Monet_ | Mini train line! |
| 16:51.46 | Xho_ | Kicathian Transport: Taking pride in their world destroyers since 172,000 BC |
| 16:51.53 | Wormy | What kind of attack are you looking for? Planetary bombardment? Fleet battles? Both? |
| 16:51.58 | Xho_ | Both |
| 16:52.10 | Xho_ | It's the kind of ship you look at and go "#nope" |
| 16:52.37 | Xho_ | I'm looking to make three different kinds of Dreadnoughts |
| 16:52.52 | TekDroid | I'd imagine the front is loaded with just about every single-direction you can think of. |
| 16:53.05 | Wormy | I agree it needs something more special than turbolasers |
| 16:53.27 | Xho_ | We'll have Pantheon, Nihilist and Nemesis class Dreadnoughts |
| 16:54.47 | Wormy | Its becoming very hard to come up with somthing unique to the Sporewikiverse weaponwise though |
| 16:55.49 | Xho_ | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110430093802/spore/images/6/6c/Kithworto.png Dear lord look at what I found |
| 16:56.02 | OluapPlayer | dat old skool |
| 16:56.09 | Wormy | Relativistic kill vehicles would go with this ship almost aesthetically even. But I think its primary weapon still need to be more spoecial |
| 16:56.12 | Monet_ | Normal Kithworto |
| 16:56.45 | Wormy | Kithworto's pyjamas |
| 16:57.41 | Xho_ | Well |
| 16:57.50 | Xho_ | What's the scariest weapon you can put on a ship and not call it god-tech |
| 16:57.55 | Xho_ | Gridfire? |
| 16:58.41 | Monet_ | Some kind of GUT plasma weapon perhaps |
| 16:59.05 | Angrybirds | rift |
| 16:59.09 | Angrybirds | fire |
| 17:00.04 | Xho_ | GUT? |
| 17:00.27 | TekDroid | Basically shove anything that's not a missile or turret at the front. :P |
| 17:00.43 | TekDroid | gtg |
| 17:00.59 | Monet_ | Grand unified theory. GUT plasma is so hot that its basically a vamorous mass of quarks |
| 17:01.07 | Wormy | I've had an idea |
| 17:01.32 | Wormy | Tractor beans aren't used very much as weapons in the wikiverse |
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| 17:01.48 | Wormy | Maybe the dreadnought can rip chunks out of planets |
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| 17:02.18 | Wormy | and fling the material at enemy ships at high velocities |
| 17:02.21 | Xho_ | Scary prospect that |
| 17:02.52 | Xho_ | Or superpowered repulsor beams that blast the planet apart |
| 17:02.52 | Angrybirds | Large-scale gravity gun. |
| 17:02.56 | Wormy | Not sure how realistic we can make that but then realism isn't the core point of your stuff so I don't see why it matters |
| 17:03.33 | Angrybirds | This: We're about finished - http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gigaquadrantic_Intergalactic_Trade_Organization |
| 17:03.48 | Technobliterator | awful internet is awfukl |
| 17:04.25 | Xho_ | Awfukl |
| 17:04.27 | Xho_ | That's a new one |
| 17:04.47 | Xho_ | Angrybirds: Kicath need to join dis |
| 17:05.11 | Angrybirds | Oh? We'd be glad to have them. ^.^ |
| 17:05.45 | Angrybirds | Aren't they on bad terms with the DI, though? Or is that old news? |
| 17:05.54 | Angrybirds | Okay, derp. |
| 17:06.01 | Angrybirds | I'm thinking of something else. xD |
| 17:06.08 | Xho_ | wat u on about |
| 17:06.12 | Angrybirds | Nothing... |
| 17:06.28 | Xho_ | Hm need to think of the Kicath's main exports |
| 17:06.38 | Wormy | swords |
| 17:06.38 | Xho_ | Biotechnology among other things |
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| 17:06.57 | Sporeraptor | hi |
| 17:07.08 | Angrybirds | What about the materiel on the arms market? they could be exporting that? |
| 17:07.12 | Wormy | Kicathanian blades are supposed to be amongst the best aren't they? |
| 17:07.22 | Xho_ | Wormy: Private sector ones anyway |
| 17:07.43 | Wormy | probs go under commodities |
| 17:08.14 | Xho_ | I doubt you'd see someone with an Agent-grade sword in their house |
| 17:08.16 | Wormy | or rare commodities |
| 17:08.35 | Imperios | Hi |
| 17:10.07 | Wormy | Only 8400 crew? I bet that ship has a lot of space for luxary inside |
| 17:10.17 | Xho_ | Most of it is A.I. controlled |
| 17:10.28 | Monet_ | Kithworto should have one as a home fro mhome |
| 17:10.42 | Xho_ | The crew is more for operation/engineering as well as strategic command |
| 17:10.59 | Xho_ | I imagine Kithworto does have one |
| 17:11.10 | Wormy | Right, maybe it is the AI that we could inject some awesomeoness |
| 17:11.28 | Xho_ | Would the Kicath have an economic capital in Borealis |
| 17:11.33 | Xho_ | For the GITO |
| 17:12.02 | Wormy | bbl |
| 17:13.11 | Xho_ | Since the Kicath tend to isolate themselves from the rest of Borealis' galactic economy apart from the bare essentials I'd imagine they would |
| 17:15.30 | Monet_ | One thing to note Xho: economic capitals have wormhole ocnnections built near them |
| 17:15.36 | Xho_ | Right |
| 17:15.44 | Xho_ | Probably not Anatezc-ji 0 then |
| 17:15.56 | Xho_ | Anatezc-ji 0 is more of their cultural capital than economic |
| 17:16.05 | Xho_ | As well as political |
| 17:16.17 | Tek0516 | So these wormholes connect to a hub near the GITO capital? |
| 17:16.55 | Monet_ | Yeah, GITO's wormhole network is used to link up the various hubs |
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| 17:18.05 | Cyrannian | Hello! |
| 17:18.09 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 17:19.35 | Monet_ | Xho_: Not using Anatezc-ji 0 is understandable. The DI is a major GITO member and it's Araveene, not Alcanti that's got a GITO wormhole ocnnection |
| 17:19.42 | Technobliterator | Cyrannian, I redid your template http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Fun_page |
| 17:20.02 | OluapPlayer | Old version was far better |
| 17:20.03 | Cyrannian | So I saw, it looks much better! |
| 17:20.25 | Technobliterator | what's wrong with the new version? |
| 17:20.55 | OluapPlayer | It has a whole paragraph when the old one was short and self-explanatory, and it also assumes people attack each other |
| 17:20.56 | Sporeraptor | hi |
| 17:21.24 | Technobliterator | it has a whole paragraph because it's more descriptive |
| 17:21.34 | OluapPlayer | And it's unnecessary |
| 17:21.35 | Technobliterator | but hm, it could be reworded |
| 17:22.18 | Technobliterator | could "However, at the same time, anything that is deemed by multiple users to lack comedic value will be removed, and this is no more a place to post personal attacks than anywhere else on this wiki." be removed to make it shorter? |
| 17:22.28 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 17:22.33 | Angrybirds | bbl |
| 17:22.36 | Technobliterator | right |
| 17:22.39 | Technobliterator | does it look better now? |
| 17:22.50 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
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| 17:27.33 | Monet_ | I just saw Nerd3 perform open heart surgery by removing the patient's ribs with a fire extinguisher |
| 17:27.45 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 17:27.57 | Xho_ | Nu - LIVE DAM U LIVE |
| 17:28.05 | Tek0516 | I'm assuming this is that surgeon simulator game? |
| 17:28.20 | Monet_ | Yes |
| 17:28.45 | Tek0516 | Why do they even have a fire extinguisher? O.o |
| 17:28.49 | Monet_ | And I think I saw him als otry to remove the bone around the brain with a radio. |
| 17:28.53 | Technobliterator | brb switching to linux |
| 17:28.58 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 17:30.46 | Monet_ | During ambulence brain surgery mission he tossed the old brain out and prepared to put the new brain in...but it fell out and went out the back doors of the ambulence. |
| 17:31.25 | Monet_ | He felt so gutted he decided t ocontinue the operation by replacing the patient's brain with a radio. |
| 17:31.48 | Monet_ | Didn't work |
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| 17:42.48 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
| 17:47.29 | Xho_ | Hm |
| 17:47.37 | Xho_ | Now what kind of defence would a ship like this have |
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| 17:50.15 | Xho_ | Wormy |
| 17:50.21 | Xho_ | What kind of defence would a ship like this have |
| 17:51.22 | Wormy | Xho_ I think the AI's could be hypercomputers. Hypercomputers aren't just very fast computers they would be fundamentally better. It is the majority opinion thaty they CANNOT be built in the universe but I read this today suggesting they could behttp://www.newscientist.com/issue/current so maybe the Kicath found a way to build oracle machines |
| 17:51.45 | Xho_ | Kicath - godtech powers go |
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| 17:52.17 | Zmr56 | Hi there |
| 17:52.20 | Xho_ | So what are the characteristics of hypercomputers |
| 17:52.47 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Zmr |
| 17:52.48 | Wormy | The AI's would make the ship super intelligent and super creative, thinking more like buge brains than computers. In that sense it would be good defense |
| 17:53.57 | Wormy | It basically means the hypercomputers are not limited like normal computers, they could solve "non-Turing computable" problems |
| 17:54.41 | Xho_ | So they'd pretty much be self aware? |
| 17:54.43 | Wormy | It might for example, achieve infinite computational steps in a finite time |
| 17:55.05 | Wormy | Possibly, there is speculation minds are more like oracles |
| 17:56.52 | Wormy | What a hypercomputer's output might be may well be unpredictable too |
| 17:57.35 | Wormy | So fighting the dreadnought strategically would be even more difficult |
| 17:58.57 | Wormy | Anyway, defenses-wise I think there is little justification for the Kicath *not to have* non-phasic shielding given their tech level |
| 18:01.02 | Xho_ | What about things like ablative armour |
| 18:01.21 | Xho_ | I'm surprised I know what that is |
| 18:01.57 | Wormy | Maybe ablative armour that can regenerate itself? |
| 18:02.08 | Xho_ | That would be good |
| 18:02.15 | Xho_ | This ship sounds like an absolute bastard to face in a battle |
| 18:02.17 | Wormy | DCP armour is infused with replicatos |
| 18:02.57 | Wormy | Everything optimised by hypercomputers |
| 18:03.18 | Wormy | It could be among the top ships |
| 18:03.30 | Xho_ | So this is pretty much borderline Tier 1 this ship |
| 18:03.35 | Wormy | yep |
| 18:03.42 | DrodoEmpire | To be honest its also good to have other defences other than shielding and armour. |
| 18:03.53 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps stuff like point-defence lasers/miniguns? |
| 18:04.10 | DrodoEmpire | To shoot down missiles and railgun shots? |
| 18:04.29 | Wormy | Yeah, throw in point and defense turbolasers, railguns and quantum torpedoes |
| 18:04.31 | Xho_ | It does have tractor beams, relativistic cannons and turbloasers |
| 18:04.39 | Xho_ | rite |
| 18:04.40 | DrodoEmpire | *Point-defence. |
| 18:04.44 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway. XD |
| 18:04.51 | Wormy | lol |
| 18:06.04 | Xho_ | How exactly do I explain a hyperdrive |
| 18:06.06 | DrodoEmpire | http://www.doolwind.com/images/blog/phalanx.jpg - Something like this is a good example of a point-defence gun; Fires extremely rapid, low-caliber (by ship standards) rounds to destroy missiles before they connect. |
| 18:09.14 | DrodoEmpire | D: I scared him off. |
| 18:10.20 | Wormy | I'm not quite sure how hyperdrives work |
| 18:10.28 | Wormy | in the SporeWikiverse |
| 18:10.47 | DrodoEmpire | I always made the assumption they where similar to SW drives. |
| 18:10.50 | Wormy | Sometimes its a hyperdimensional wormhole, sometimes its an extra dimension |
| 18:11.13 | DrodoEmpire | That or there's multiple different drives FTL drives that are called "hyperdrives". |
| 18:11.19 | DrodoEmpire | *FTL drives |
| 18:11.34 | Wormy | probably |
| 18:11.48 | Wormy | Lots coexist in the SporeWikiverse |
| 18:12.04 | Xho_ | I just said "hyperdrive for ftl travel" |
| 18:12.36 | Wormy | Hyperspace echnology is probaly the Clarkeiest tech the SporeWikiverse has |
| 18:12.55 | Wormy | Clarketech - working on unexplained principles |
| 18:13.05 | Wormy | same as godtech really |
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| 18:17.05 | Xho_ | The scariest thing about this ship is |
| 18:17.09 | Xho_ | It's Nu-proof |
| 18:17.16 | Xho_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Pantheon-Class_Dreadnought There we go |
| 18:17.31 | TekDroid | Lol. What makes it Nu proof? |
| 18:17.44 | Xho_ | Hypercomputer |
| 18:17.53 | Xho_ | It's intelligent enough to disallow Nu from operating it |
| 18:18.15 | Xho_ | As an Agent, Nu can wind his way through most system defences but the hypercomputer eludes him |
| 18:18.17 | Xho_ | For the most part |
| 18:18.23 | Xho_ | Nu will probably figure it out eventually |
| 18:18.33 | TekDroid | Nu's no computer geek? :P |
| 18:18.43 | Xho_ | He's not |
| 18:18.48 | Xho_ | He does it for shits and giggles |
| 18:19.14 | Xho_ | I need to make the Nihilist and Nemesis now |
| 18:20.12 | Xho_ | As Dreadnoughts they're going to be bigger than 20km as well |
| 18:22.35 | Wormy | One way the hypercomputer might work is by severely warping the curvature of spacetime |
| 18:23.02 | Xho_ | Kicath - sorry can't hear you over SUPER DUPER HYPERCOMPUTER |
| 18:23.54 | Xho_ | I'd say that's one terrifying ship to fight |
| 18:24.11 | Wormy | Hypercomputer would be Kicath unique because I didn't dare use it |
| 18:24.27 | Xho_ | I can imagine |
| 18:24.34 | Xho_ | DCP - they're madmen MADMEN |
| 18:25.13 | TekDroid | Of course given its size, many nations could field a few hundred for the same resourses. >.> |
| 18:26.36 | TekDroid | Not criticizing, just saying. |
| 18:28.24 | TekDroid | Of course any nation that can safely pull off really big is generally able to pull off better "HOLY ****" per square meter than average. :P |
| 18:29.04 | TekDroid | ~test |
| 18:29.05 | infobot | it has been said that test is not funny |
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| 18:30.28 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 18:30.51 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 18:32.10 | TekDroid | Hm... so there was a Canadian on board the airliner that was shot down. From my area too. |
| 18:38.14 | TekDroid | I killed the chat twice. DX |
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| 18:46.46 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 18:49.13 | Imperios | Ðø |
| 18:49.14 | Imperios | Hi |
| 18:49.24 | Imperios | Cyrannian: I think I found a fitting theme song for Antediluvian |
| 18:49.35 | Cyrannian | Cool, what is it? |
| 18:56.54 | TekDroid | ~test |
| 18:56.55 | infobot | test is, like, not funny |
| 19:00.15 | Imperios | Cyrannian|Away: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zVGeeztbD4 |
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| 19:19.40 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 19:22.25 | Xho_ | Monet_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Pantheon-Class_Dreadnought Finished this page btw |
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| 19:24.06 | Monet_ | Xho_: Reading now |
| 19:24.38 | Xho_ | Can people quote dat page as well plz |
| 19:26.32 | Xho_ | I need to make those other two ships but I'm a little short for creative output at the moment |
| 19:31.47 | TekDroid | bbl |
| 19:32.08 | Xho_ | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs7ccyvCAAAGu1X.jpg So that's how big a Quetzalcoatlus is |
| 19:32.21 | Xho_ | I'm glad they don't exist in our time |
| 19:32.34 | OluapPlayer | They were big burdlizards |
| 19:33.14 | Xho_ | Which reminds me |
| 19:33.24 | Xho_ | If we got a game of L4D2 going would you join |
| 19:34.31 | OluapPlayer | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5636656/7e144d908030442a76b856e0179ea7c5.png |
| 19:34.42 | OluapPlayer | Guess so |
| 19:35.41 | Xho_ | dergnbern |
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| 19:37.45 | Monet_ | Xho_: THis makes me think. It's possible the ITN permits provinces to build their own fleets in order to secure their own territories, and due to the myriad aliens living withi nthe Imperium, are not too picky on designs so long as they include some ocmmon features. |
| 19:38.23 | Xho_ | Remnant - here u go *dreadnought* Enclave - thnx Imperium - YOU WHAT |
| 19:39.00 | Monet_ | FOr instance I don't think the Imperium ever forbade the Shellious Imperium from constructing its known ship models |
| 19:39.52 | Imperios | Cyrannian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zVGeeztbD4 That song, the Emperor by Dark Moor |
| 19:41.01 | Monet_ | Xho_: ALthough while yes the dreadnought you made is indeed deadly i nterms of firepower, the comparable Warlord-class does have a built-in shipyard. So it all balances out |
| 19:41.33 | Xho_ | I thought making a shipyard in it was a bit overkill considering the technology in it |
| 19:41.49 | Xho_ | I'll probably make shipyard installations later or something |
| 19:42.42 | Monet_ | Well one of the reasons a warlord-class has a shipyard is so they can survive far beyond friendly territory. |
| 19:42.57 | Monet_ | And give nthe DI likes to patrol whatever galaxy it has colonies in, that happens often. |
| 19:43.15 | Xho_ | It's like a mobile factory |
| 19:44.37 | Cyrannian | Imperios: I think his theme would be a bit more... subtle. |
| 19:45.52 | Monet_ | Xho_: I know. Although i'd say that at msot it can work on...two battleshisp at a time? |
| 19:45.58 | Monet_ | battleships* |
| 19:46.08 | Xho_ | How long does it take for a battleship to be constructed |
| 19:46.29 | Monet_ | Not sure because I never researched, couple of weeks at least. |
| 19:46.32 | Xho_ | Cyrannian: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719162629/spore/images/3/34/KicathianDreadnought.png You like spaceships so I thought you might like this one I made |
| 19:46.45 | Cyrannian | Ooh, very impressive |
| 19:46.49 | Monet_ | Don't worry it doesn't constantly spit out battleships |
| 19:56.31 | Xho_ | I need to work out the different size classes for the Kicath ships |
| 19:56.44 | Xho_ | Dreadnought is the second largest before Installation |
| 19:57.23 | Xho_ | Fighter -> Corvette -> [Many ships] -> Dreadnought -> Installation |
| 19:58.10 | Imperios | True |
| 19:58.36 | Xho_ | I suppose it would be Frigate I guess in ship sizes |
| 19:59.06 | Monet_ | Sounds about right |
| 19:59.50 | Xho_ | Fighter -> Corvette -> Frigate -> ??? -> Dreadnought -> Installation |
| 19:59.58 | Xho_ | Installations sort of work into other categories as well |
| 20:00.07 | Xho_ | Such as mobile shipyards and carriers |
| 20:01.27 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrannian_Republic#Notable_Planets - Take a look or dai |
| 20:02.18 | Xho_ | Planets everywhere |
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| 20:05.20 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 20:06.00 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Dawn/Revelations_to_Come#Chase Nu section |
| 20:06.01 | Imperios | chek |
| 20:07.40 | Ghelae | reads it |
| 20:07.53 | Zmr56 | I like Coruantor |
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| 20:13.23 | Angrybirds | Xho_: Did you add the Kicath to GITO? |
| 20:22.55 | Xho_ | Not yet |
| 20:23.02 | Xho_ | Not sure what to add and what not to add |
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| 20:24.09 | Angrybirds | Xho_ Well, add them to the infobox and to the tables in the members section? |
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| 21:03.36 | Knight_Alien | hello |
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| 21:05.22 | Knight_Alien_ | Hello |
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| 21:38.02 | Xho_ | Well I made the Nihilist class Dreadnought on Spore |
| 21:38.07 | Xho_ | I need to take a picture of it |
| 21:46.48 | Xho_ | http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719214608/spore/images/3/34/NihilistDreadnought.png Here is the Nihilist Dreadnought |
| 21:50.37 | Tybusen | http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719214743/spore/images/b/b2/Lorrelas.png Made a new Lorrelas model with the Dark Injection stuff and my graphics settings on High |
| 21:51.12 | Tybusen | Compare that to the older Lorrelas model: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130503223603/spore/images/archive/b/b2/20140719214742%21Lorrelas.png |
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| 21:51.31 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 21:51.56 | Xho_ | dem graphic changes |
| 21:53.17 | Cyrannian | Very impressive work Xho |
| 21:53.29 | Cyrannian | And Tybusen |
| 21:53.35 | Tybusen | Danke |
| 21:54.00 | Tybusen | High graphics really works wonders for Spore models if your computer can handle it |
| 21:54.04 | Xho_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Nihilist-class_Dreadnought There's the specs for now |
| 21:54.50 | TekDroid | So I just saw the Dawn of the Planet of the Apes movie. Nothing spectacular. Great effects though. |
| 21:55.05 | Xho_ | I heard it was a bit disappointing |
| 21:56.37 | Tybusen | Also made a new HD model for Natalie Grey: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719215607/spore/images/f/f0/Natalie_Grey.png |
| 21:56.57 | Tybusen | Compared to the older version: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130618031032/spore/images/archive/f/f0/20140719215606%21Natalie_Grey.png |
| 21:57.11 | TekDroid | The big battle kinda bugged me tactically. The humans were defending a fortified wall with assault rifles while the apes charge on horseback. And it was a massacre fir the humans. |
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| 21:58.44 | Tybusen | Tek0516: The moral of the story is, "Don't trust people from San Francisco with the defense of the last remnants of humanity." |
| 21:58.52 | Tek0516 | The battle also had a ridiculous moment where the villain dual wielded assault rifles while on horseback. XD |
| 22:00.21 | Tek0516 | Tybusen: well actually it was the apes that started the war in this case. By a guy named after Stalin's codename, nonetheless. XD |
| 22:00.34 | Cyrannian | Ngh, spoilers |
| 22:00.43 | ImpyDroid | It was hid nickname, not a codename |
| 22:00.50 | ImpyDroid | *his |
| 22:00.55 | Tek0516 | It's kinda obvious from the first five minutes. :P |
| 22:00.59 | ImpyDroid | Stalin's codename was... Stalin |
| 22:01.04 | Tybusen | Well, Rolling Stone already spoiled that bit for me |
| 22:01.32 | Tybusen | ImpyDroid: I thought Stalin's codename was Glorious Leader |
| 22:01.50 | Tek0516 | Also the horseback charge part is in the trailers. |
| 22:01.55 | ImpyDroid | He was the Father of Nations, not Glorious Leader hur |
| 22:02.31 | Tek0516 | I'll stop potential spoilers now. |
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| 22:11.06 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 22:11.19 | Tek0516 | Hello |
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| 22:11.55 | Tek0516 | Oh good, the morgoth bot is back. Now I can link pages the lazy way. :P |
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| 22:19.18 | Quark8_ | Hello. |
| 22:19.24 | drom | Guten tag |
| 22:20.00 | drom | Who wants a cup of anschluss? |
| 22:22.52 | Quark8_ | ... |
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| 22:35.08 | Monet_ | Hi |
| 22:36.46 | drom | Found a kitty gif. http://i.imgur.com/vHWOYAU.gif |
| 22:36.58 | Tek0516 | lol |
| 22:37.00 | drom | And hello |
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| 22:37.10 | Zillafire101 | hello all. |
| 22:37.11 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 22:37.16 | drom | Also: http://imgur.com/gallery/iJZsKry |
| 22:38.22 | ZF_workin | Looks like something my family would. Unfortantly. |
| 22:42.30 | drom | Somebody in a forum misspelled my username in their post. |
| 22:42.49 | drom | 'Somebody is going to die tonight.' |
| 22:44.06 | Monet_ | Over a typo? |
| 22:44.24 | drom | Yes. |
| 22:44.59 | drom | Typos of some usernames can be sometimes funny. But it's a deathwish for some. |
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| 22:47.21 | drom | Somebody copied that typo and pasted it in an image containing infoboxes for RP. That I recently joined. |
| 22:47.34 | drom | scribbles in a notebook* |
| 22:47.56 | drom | Two. |
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| 22:53.03 | tcm | what's the status of universal translation technology in the fictionverse |
| 22:53.37 | Tek0516 | Existed for millenia, depends on civilization. |
| 22:54.03 | tcm | individual to each race? |
| 22:54.53 | Tek0516 | Depends entirely on the race. |
| 22:59.05 | LordRaydon | test |
| 22:59.16 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Tyronius - Take a look |
| 22:59.19 | tcm | hi |
| 22:59.29 | tcm | cool head |
| 22:59.45 | Tek0516 | Couldn't figure out why my ring image wasn't working. Turns out I was trying to map to a plane, not a sphere. XD |
| 22:59.48 | OluapPlayer | calibrations/10 |
| 23:00.57 | Cyrannian | yus |
| 23:01.31 | Technobliterator | I'd quote with new version of Xaltsa, but I don't know if I'll ever use new version of Xaltsa |
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| 23:02.32 | Wormy | Hi |
| 23:02.37 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 23:03.11 | LordRaydon | Hello |
| 23:03.37 | Wormy | I watched a great film - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJC4R1uXDaE |
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| 23:08.44 | Wormy | hi |
| 23:08.48 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 23:09.35 | OluapPlayer | Time to stop being lazy and write stuff |
| 23:10.28 | Cyrannian | And it's time for me to stop writing stuff and start being lazy. |
| 23:10.40 | OluapPlayer | I am disappoint |
| 23:11.14 | Wormy | And it's time for me to stop writing stuff and start being lazy and stop being lazy and write stuff |
| 23:12.00 | LordRaydon | 's brain hurts |
| 23:12.56 | OluapPlayer | Ok that's enough |
| 23:13.48 | Cyrannian|STO | Wormy: Liquid_Ink: Do either of you want to play STO? |
| 23:14.06 | Technobliterator | Wormy, Cyrannian|STO, it turns out you may not need to actually download anythin to use the bot |
| 23:14.14 | Technobliterator | (oh, and this applies to you, Oluap) |
| 23:14.24 | OluapPlayer | I don't care hur |
| 23:14.30 | Technobliterator | It might be possible to give commands to the bot straight from the wiki |
| 23:14.41 | Technobliterator | yor dum |
| 23:15.27 | Wormy | That would be cool |
| 23:21.05 | Wormy | I'm up for STO |
| 23:21.38 | Wormy | STO, then maybe Minecrsaft |
| 23:21.44 | Liquid_Ink | Monet, I just made it from your storehouse to the spawn ON FOOT |
| 23:22.19 | Wormy | 9058 MB patch |
| 23:22.20 | Wormy | Hm |
| 23:22.46 | Wormy | Oh well, a quick visit to MC before while STO patches |
| 23:22.54 | Wormy | I maybe a while Cyrannian|STO |
| 23:23.08 | Cyrannian|STO | Alrightie |
| 23:23.47 | Cyrannian|STO | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719232258/spore/images/3/32/CyraFederationSTO.png http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719232258/spore/images/4/47/CyraKlingonSTO.png http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719232259/spore/images/7/71/CyraRomulanSTO.png - My STO peeps |
| 23:25.07 | Angrybirds_ | I've had France join a lot of organizations. xD http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:France#Multinational_Organizations |
| 23:27.08 | LordRaydon | Who here has heard of Star Ruler? |
| 23:33.43 | Wormy | Me |
| 23:33.58 | drom | Not me. |
| 23:34.01 | Wormy | Liquid) I'm having connectivity issues, I got to page 5 |
| 23:34.20 | Wormy | It was poetically vivid |
| 23:35.24 | Wormy | Liquid_Ink: Read it |
| 23:35.35 | Wormy | Nightvale squid |
| 23:36.03 | LordRaydon | Okay, cool. I have the demo, and I was wondering if it'd be worth the money to buy the full game. |
| 23:38.18 | drom | I did this a while ago when I was bored. http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719124514/spore/images/3/3b/Mantisbomber.png |
| 23:39.45 | Cyrannian|STO | Very impressive work, drom! |
| 23:40.01 | Tek0516 | Kinda made me think of the mantis in the game FTL m |
| 23:40.05 | Tek0516 | *FTL. |
| 23:40.10 | drom | There's an entry about that fighter here. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Naakjian_Confederation/Military#Space |
| 23:40.30 | drom | It's supposed to look like a stingray. But my english dun goofed myself. |
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| 23:41.42 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 23:41.54 | drom | Any feedback on the text is apperciated. Thanks. |
| 23:41.57 | Wormy_ | Liquid_Ink: I swear my sand house changed orientation |
| 23:42.07 | drom | wb wormy. |
| 23:42.26 | drom | And. Thanks for the compliments Cyrannian and Tek. |
| 23:42.42 | Wormy_ | IRC, patching STO, Minecraft and family streaming movies downstairs must be putting strain on the connection |
| 23:43.33 | drom | To "rotate" something on the z-axis? Is that tilt? |
| 23:44.18 | Wormy_ | well its supposed to be the tilting plane is verticle |
| 23:44.28 | Wormy_ | vertical3 |
| 23:44.39 | Wormy_ | for cameras |
| 23:45.36 | drom | I know that the xy-axis = pan |
| 23:45.40 | drom | x = rotate |
| 23:46.00 | drom | How about zy? |
| 23:51.13 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian|STO: Its taking too long, I'll patch in the morning tomorrow |
| 23:51.26 | Cyrannian|STO | Alrightie |
| 23:53.08 | drom | Wormy_: I also has the issue with my parents using a streaming TV |
| 23:53.28 | Angrybirds_ | drom : Guided or unguided rockets? |
| 23:54.04 | drom | Angrybirds_ Unguided short-range rockets. |
| 23:54.34 | Angrybirds_ | o.o I wasn't aware anyone but the Heer Stekeevel were still using those. xD |
| 23:55.10 | drom | The rockets can still be fired form a far range. But it means decreased accurancy. |
| 23:55.49 | drom | As the rockets mostly consits of payload. |
| 23:57.32 | drom | Also, the refilling is very cheap compared to guided and long-range rockets. |
| 23:57.44 | Tybusen | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140719235711/spore/images/e/e9/Jaysmoth.png Have a picture of the attractive commander of the Levisala navy |
| 23:58.11 | drom | Tybusen: Looks rather dangerous. |
| 23:58.23 | Angrybirds_ | Tybusen : While you're at it, can you make POTATO's SEAD craft? ^.^ |
| 23:58.54 | LordRaydon | I have a question about the Earth nations (i.e France, Ottomans etc). |
| 23:59.06 | Tybusen | drom: Jaysmoth - I run with scissors... with the point facing outward. |
| 23:59.14 | Tybusen | Angrybirds_: I'll work on it |
| 23:59.21 | Angrybirds_ | Danke :D |
| 23:59.37 | Angrybirds_ | LordRaydon : Oh? |
| 23:59.56 | drom | I wonder which ship would be a bestseller if NC sold any? |
