IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140716

00:02.19TekSTOI found an interesting issue in my design in Space Engineers. Apparently your own ships will be affected by their artificial gravity generators. XD
00:02.44TekSTO*enables it on his ship* *starts falling*
00:05.02TekSTOOh great, I fell out of beacon range. XD
00:08.15TekDroidI stopped playing STO at least an hour ago. XD
00:09.57DrodoEmpireI think I'll go on an editing spree. :P
00:10.03DrodoEmpireJust making little pages for stuff
00:12.11DrodoEditingSo my cat's licking my computer mouse...
00:12.44TekDroidOur neighbours have been blasting their stereo for hours and it keeps getting louder. -.- It's pure spite at this point.
00:14.25TybusenSo I'm on the Badlands mission in STO, and I think Joshua Riker just kicked a Chroniton Grenade Turret into exploding
00:14.37DrodoEditingThen its obvious; You must assassinate your neighbours.
00:14.48DrodoEditingprovides TekDroid with a list of Hitmen.
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00:16.09OfficerJackalHello!
00:16.17DrodoEditingMust take a lot of stamina to kick an armoured turret to death. :P
00:16.19DrodoEditingHey!
00:18.44TekDroidWe actually filed a whole list of noise complaints yesterday.
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00:50.12TekDroidHm...
00:50.16TekDroid~test
00:50.16infobot[test] not funny
00:50.23Angrybirds...
00:50.30TekDroidHoping for a double. XD
00:51.30AngrybirdsShould I even ask why we have two infobots?
00:52.23TekDroidDC, I guess
00:52.44TekDroidbased on pm the other is DCed
00:53.22TekDroidOr not
00:53.24TekDroid[20:52] <TekDroid> test
00:53.24TekDroid[20:52] <infobot__> fuck you
00:53.28TekDroid...
00:53.53Angrybirds?
00:53.54TekDroidOkay, who's pretending to be infobot?
00:55.51DrodoEditingProbably some troll who thinks he's funny.
00:56.09DrodoEditingHe's certainly a user, not an actual bot.
00:57.32TekDroidAnd now they've run.
00:57.43DrodoEditingWell he's actually pinged out. :P
00:57.50AngrybirdsI have a bot. He can definitely be programmed to say "F you." xD
00:58.12DrodoEditingBut that was a person or else it would have had the "+" symbol.
00:58.23DrodoEditingIn front of its name.
00:58.44AngrybirdsAh. Oh well.
00:59.25TekDroidWell actually the + doesn't have to be a bot, we just have it set like that here. :P
01:00.16DrodoEditingWell if that configuration's channelwide, then I don't see why it matters.
01:01.10TekDroidIt's not even a configuration, we just give our bots that.
01:01.17DrodoEditingOkay...
01:01.25DrodoEditingThen why nitpick? XD
01:02.37TekDroidAll the + means is you can talk when the channel is muted. >.>
01:03.56Monet_Goodnight
01:04.02TekDroidnight
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01:14.11Cyrannian|AwayDid we have a problem with infobot?
01:15.34DrodoEditingOr at least someone impersonating them.
01:16.15DrodoEditingBasically from what Tek said this infobot whoever told him to fuck off when he said test to it. :P
01:16.26DrodoEditingNot a big deal and that infobot's gone now
01:17.33CyrannianIt appears to have the same IP address as Angrybirds.
01:19.02DrodoEditingImpossible. He'd never do something like that.
01:20.04CyrannianAngrybirds [540e6ac2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.14.106.194]          infobot__ [540e6ac2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.14.106.194]
01:20.25CyrannianHe might have been testing something.
01:20.35DrodoEditingWell he did mention he had a bot
01:20.45DrodoEditingEither way, Tek's not too mad about it. :P
01:20.55DrodoEditingJust sort of weird
01:51.38DrodoEditingI'm trying to think of a shell that could be fired from a field gun, that would be non-lethal and used in crowd control.
01:52.13DrodoEditingPerhaps a shell with a lightweight, plastic warhead filled with tear gas?
01:52.36DrodoEditingIt wouldn't explode, moreover it would burst upon hitting the ground letting out the gas.
01:53.17DrodoEditingAnd perhaps also something like a "canister shot"; that is a direct-fire shell filled with rubber or sponge rounds.
01:55.20Wormy_awaySounds like it could work, after-all, rubber bullets exist
01:55.44DrodoEditingYeah
02:04.27Wormy_awayIs your water wet?  http://phys.org/news/2014-07-scientists-classical-phenomenon.html#nRlv
02:08.00DrodoEditingFun fact: Austrailian soldiers used to refer to the M79 grenade launcher as the "Wombat Gun".
02:08.11DrodoEditingApparently.
02:08.48DrodoEditingOther nicknames where "Thumper", "Blooper", and the "Bloop Gun" due to its unique sound
02:09.42Wormy_awaylol
02:10.01Wormy_awayNow they have dropbear guns
02:11.48TekDroidI wish I had stuff for the arms market. Tier 4 stuff probably isn't very useful though. :P
02:12.00DrodoEditingWell it can be
02:12.50DrodoEditingReferring back to the M79 example, even despite the introduction of underslung grenade launchers, they where still in use in niche roles
02:13.14DrodoEditingAnd it was only made up a five parts; Sometimes, simple is just far, far better.
02:13.34DrodoEditingWeapons don't have to be Quark-gluon blasters to be effective. XD
02:14.30DrodoEditingHell, try selling a grenade launcher or really good weapon design; That way it could feasibly be rechambered for more exotic ammunition by those more advanced.
02:14.48TekDroidI suppose with infantry weapons there's only so much velocity you can give a bullet in atmosphere. :P
02:27.02CyrannianBye"
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02:41.06TekDroidI threw a Farengeto assault rifle on the market.
02:41.23DrodoEditingNice
02:42.20TekDroidWhile less effective I would imagine they'd also be cheaper.
02:43.11TekDroidSince the more advanced weaponry presumably uses more advanced techniques and equipment.
02:43.54DrodoEditingProbably, yeah
02:44.15DrodoEditingThough, you do have stiff competition in the form of the X8-95 and FASAT
02:44.35DrodoEditingThough now even the French have adopted the Drodoian X8-95. XD
02:45.48TekDroidMaybe Farengeto might look into it.
02:46.06DrodoEditinghttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire/Police_Force - Also, this
03:01.44TekDroidO.o Paradox uploads their full game soundtracks to YouTube.
03:03.12DrodoEditingI'm telling you, they're like video game Jesus. XD
03:03.25DrodoEditingExcept not probably-fictional
03:15.15TekDroidThe Drodo Police page looks great though. Nice detail.
03:16.42TekDroidLol, I'm reading about the Anglo-Zanzibar War.
03:17.00TekDroidA 38 minute war. O.o
03:17.46DrodoEditingYep
03:17.51DrodoEditingAlso, thanks
04:06.44TekDroid~test
04:06.44infobothmm... test is not funny
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04:55.36tcmon a scale of 0-10 how active is the fiction universe right now
05:00.44DrodoEditing8-ish
05:00.46DrodoEditingAlso, hey
05:00.48DrodoEditingAlso
05:01.05DrodoEditingSirry about the low number of people here
05:01.08DrodoEditing*sorry
05:01.16DrodoEditingThese are the slow hours, I guess
05:01.17DrodoEditingXD
05:01.42DrodoEditingThere's like twenty people on during the "rush hour".
05:02.00DrodoEmpireAnyway, 8 ot nine.
05:02.03DrodoEmpire*or
05:02.31DrodoEmpireSo, welcome to the Wiki tcm.
05:02.44tcmhello
05:03.18tcmi'm getting into spore again despite its faults
05:03.29DrodoEmpireAh
05:03.33tcmthe whole "you make basically everything" angle really gets me
05:04.16DrodoEmpireWell I guess nowadays, while Spore is the main vehicle of making characters, vehicles, etc. the fictionverse has sort of went a long way from its game roots
05:04.24DrodoEmpireIts really its own fiction universe
05:04.28DrodoEmpireGood read
05:04.29DrodoEmpire:D
05:04.33tcmstill has its bases in spore, right?
05:04.38DrodoEmpireYeah
05:04.43DrodoEmpireFor the most bit.
05:04.52DrodoEmpireThe Grox exist/existed
05:05.16DrodoEmpireSporeBucks are an international currency but faces big competition depending on where you look
05:05.31DrodoEmpireAnd basically everything from characters to firearms are made in Spore itself.
05:06.46tcmi've had this itch to add to the fictionverse myself ever since i realized it existed
05:06.49tcmaka, two days ago
05:07.08DrodoEmpireAh, lol
05:07.16DrodoEmpireWell, I personally think its worth it
05:07.22tcmbut i've gone through a couple of the articles and like, my ambitions are waaay lower than everybody else's
05:07.54DrodoEmpireWell don't try and stress yourself.
05:07.57DrodoEmpireStart small
05:08.01tcmthe race i've put any major amount of thought into would ideally control about 26-30 systems, at max
05:08.09tcmpretty small
05:08.23DrodoEmpireWell that's good, but even smaller nations control upwards of a thousand systems
05:08.28tcmyup
05:08.49tcmand i go see the guidelines page and see a maximum of several million(?) systems
05:08.58tcmwhich is
05:08.59DrodoEmpireMy own fiction, the Drodo Empire controls 18 000 combined with its semiautonomous colonies and even then its considered a regional power at best
05:10.06DrodoEmpireI think I'll add a grenade launcher to the Arms Market.
05:10.09DrodoEmpireOne sec
05:10.10tcmi'll probably have to make a 'test' page before sidling my way into the 'verse
05:10.17DrodoEmpireAlright, that's fine
05:10.36DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire/Police_Force#Handheld_Weapons_and_Equipment - Anyway, if anyone's interested I added a cavalry lance.
05:10.46DrodoEmpireOr just a electroshock pike, really.
05:11.56tcmis this a good place to get feedback on one's creations
05:12.00tcmi mean it seems to be the only place but
05:12.05DrodoEmpireYeah
05:15.03tcmi don't even have galactic adventures, haha
05:16.02DrodoEmpireWell, its not totally necessary I suppose
05:16.30DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Arms_Market#Firearms - There, another incredibly niche weapon from the Drodoian armouries.
05:16.34tcmsure helps, though
05:16.40DrodoEmpireTrue.
05:16.52tcmhuge blocks of text are easier to read if you break them up with images
05:16.58DrodoEmpireYeah
05:23.39DrodoEmpireWell I best be going. Goodnight everyone!
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07:19.58AdmiralPandahi all
07:20.06Liquid_InkHello
07:20.17AdmiralPandaplanning for the Fordan arc of the Shattering has well and truly begun
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07:45.28GhelaeHello.
07:45.38Liquid_InkHello
07:46.41AdmiralPandahi
07:46.53AdmiralPandahm, should have the first section ready for upload sometime soon
07:48.51Liquid_InkI'm making a diagram of the Vermulan Hiearchy, and I'm concerned it's not complex enough
07:49.43AdmiralPandathat might be a good thing
07:50.01AdmiralPandaNazi Germany was conquered by a shitty command chain as much as it was by the russian winter
07:51.44Liquid_InkThank you for noticing the plot point.
07:51.58Liquid_InkNow, as I said, it's not complex enough.
07:52.47AdmiralPandaI didn't notice a plot point, so you just gave me a spoiler :P
07:52.55AdmiralPandaas to the second point, I can't help with that really
07:54.05GhelaeKnowing more about the hierarchy might help us provide suggestions for increasing complexity, if that's what you're asking for.
07:55.01Liquid_InkAs soon as I've finished what I have figured I'll show you
08:15.45Liquid_InkWhat's a more loveable name for propaganda?
08:16.36AdmiralPandapromotion, advertising, publicity
08:16.40AdmiralPandasomething along those lines
08:17.01GhelaePublic information?
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08:19.24ALaggyPandaI lagged out
08:21.56ALaggyPandahttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Shattering/To_Burn_A_Thousand_Worlds The first section, not much there but the next section will have a bit more meat on the bones
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08:27.25Ghelaereads it
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08:31.54Liquid_Inkhttp://i.imgur.com/DNK4wg2.png Viola
08:32.21Liquid_Ink*voilà
08:33.20Liquid_InkWait, I need to add a couple of things
08:34.40GhelaeIf you want more complexity, each of those groups could probably be further organised into their own hierarchies with maybe ten or so sublevels.
08:34.42Liquid_Inkhttp://i.imgur.com/jEyZPAi.png Voilà! The Vermulan Hierarchy!
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08:35.18Liquid_InkGhel: Like how I've got the High Command as a big lump there?
08:36.03GhelaeSimilar, yes.
08:37.03Liquid_InkAlso, this diagram is de jure.
08:37.28Liquid_InkDe facto may be a little more fluid
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08:38.24dromHeyo.
08:38.30dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/v604GpS
08:48.51dromhttp://i.imgur.com/GEV2quY.jpg
09:21.50ImpyDroidIsn't it weird if a person with a *Polish* surname says I should be thrown into a concentration camp?
09:23.54ImpyDroidOh, also, hi
09:24.07ImpyDroidForgot I didn't log out
09:25.55Liquid_InkAre you running into Polish neo-Nazis?
09:49.41ImpyDroidRussian of Polish descent at least
09:52.48Liquid_InkI see.
09:52.56Liquid_InkAnyway how are you?
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10:23.06Wormyhi
10:23.23WormyExellent section Liquid_Ink
10:23.39Liquid_InkYou've already read it?
10:24.27Wormyindeed
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10:25.48ImperiosALaggyPanda: Nice Shattering story
10:25.49Wormyhi
10:25.51ImperiosHi
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11:17.34WormyMy dog won't drink water today
11:17.46WormyAnd seems under the weather
11:18.02WormyI had to hand feed him water
11:28.07WormyHm, he'll drink out of a cup luckily
11:28.24Wormydogs are very strange creatures
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11:52.37HachimanHai
11:52.53Monet_Hi
11:56.42Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Galactic_Empire Look out guys we have a badass
11:58.07Liquid_Ink*gasp*
12:02.16ALaggyPandahttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Shattering/To_Burn_A_Thousand_Worlds Hachiman Monet - I did a thing
12:02.31Monet_Should we really be mocking these people?
12:02.40Monet_ALaggyPanda: O'll take a look
12:02.52ALaggyPandaWe should, and then if they're serious about contributing to the wiki we can help them
12:04.30HachimanWhen their government is Nazi and their archetype is Hitler yet their economy is communism we really should be mocking them
12:05.15Monet_Sorry I asked
12:06.09ALaggyPandano need to be, it was a valid question
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12:08.54HachimanWoops
12:10.19Monet_I'm jsut ocncerned they take the mocking the wrong way and leave.
12:10.22ALaggyPandalel
12:10.41HachimanThey're not going to know
12:10.48ALaggyPandaThing is, that sort of thing smells more of troll than newb
12:11.24HachimanIf they're putting out shit like that then they're either not mature enough to know how to get to the logs or they don't give a shit hur
12:19.05ALaggyPandaI'm gonna pass out, see you guys in the morning
12:19.28HachimanCya
12:20.35GhelHello.
12:52.00Technobliteratorhey Ghel, were you active on the Tardis Wiki when SpellBot was introduced?
12:52.28GhelI don't remember, so probably not.
12:52.58TechnobliteratorWell, it's basically a bot that converts US english to UK english
12:53.15Technobliteratorserver side, I imagine
12:54.02Liquid_Inkhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:DCP-Vermulan_War#Bed_bug_bunker Hey Techno, I don't wish to bother you but at some stage,no rush, could you fix the tooltips are displaying the colours that are mentioned in them?
12:54.09Liquid_InkJust if you have time
12:54.33TechnobliteratorI still don't know what to call TechnoBOt :|
12:54.35Technobliteratoroh yeah, sure
12:55.09Technobliteratorurm, what do you need fixing about them?
12:56.02Liquid_InkThe text is not meant to be coloured
12:56.30Technobliterator{{tooltip|green|Grox colour of warning and danger|style=background-color:green}}
12:56.36Liquid_InkHmm?
12:57.02Technobliteratorwell, do you mean the "green" here is not meant to be colored green?
12:57.26Liquid_InkYes
12:57.58Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:DCP-Vermulan_War#New_Program so this?
12:58.03Liquid_InkI'm not sure how "|style=background-color:green}}" appeared
12:58.20Liquid_InkYes, that's better, thank you
12:58.44Technobliteratornp
13:01.05WormyCheck out the new DCP-Vermulan war sections by Liquid
13:06.25WormyI like the new section as well, it is intriguing as to what  y = 354 cos(x) (52)3(32x + x2) knows
13:07.21Liquid_InkThe purpose of the work on Satalkis >:)
13:07.28WormyOh, I though ther blue and green highlights were part of the page aesthetic lol
13:07.30Liquid_InkI must go to bed now.
13:07.36Wormygoodnight
13:07.56WormyThats why I did code blue alert in blue as a joke
13:29.23Wormylol http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-28324118
13:31.26Wormyhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28003210
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13:34.05ImperiosHello
13:34.13Hachimanhai
13:34.16Monet_Hi
13:34.40HachimanImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Son_of_Gotla#Final_Preparations reed dis and everything after pls
13:34.47HachimanWe finally finished it
13:35.57ImperiosHOORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
13:38.09ImperiosHachiman: dat burning justice
13:39.00WormyThis will escalate quickly http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/My_Wife_and_My_Mother-in-Law.jpg
13:40.45Wormytest
13:42.22ImperiosThat was enjoyable
13:42.37ImperiosAnd I finally have ideas
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13:43.17HachimanDid you read it all to the epilogue?
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13:48.17TekDroidHello
13:52.37ImperiosHachiman: Ya, it felt like the end of Mass Effect 2 hur
13:56.26ImperiosAlso, wait
13:56.37ImperiosDid Zar just telekinetically rape his clone
13:57.04HachimanYes
13:57.07HachimanYes he did
13:57.53ImperiosNot sure if incest hur
14:02.16HachimanI hope the story was good and that I made both Tetra and Zark interesting
14:04.14ImperiosYeah it was
14:04.23ImperiosI *wish* I could write anything like this
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14:04.45WormyHi
14:05.13Monet_Imperios: Don't be like that.
14:05.17WormyThis will escalate quickly http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/My_Wife_and_My_Mother-in-Law.jpg
14:05.34Monet_You write great stories.
14:07.40HachimanJust so you know there will be more Tetra and Zark in the future post-Ice Age
14:08.20HachimanSon of Gotla takes place two years before the Ice Age finale so Tetra could've changed quite a bit when you next see him
14:10.28HachimanWormy: Is the Great Attractor still a thing in the fictionverse post-Annihilation?
14:10.43ImperiosHachiman: Hmmm, speaking of which
14:10.46ImperiosCould we do Shattering?
14:10.52ImperiosThe part with the Brotherhood
14:11.16HachimanNot right now, I'm a little bit busy but perhaps I can later
14:11.33ImperiosLater as in
14:11.41HachimanAs in a few hours
14:11.52WormyPossibly.  If the great chaos wall merely seperates the gigaquadrant and sterilised the rest of the universe, or it actually destroyed all cosmology beyond
14:11.54Imperiosrite
14:12.39Imperios21:00 MSK / 19:00 GMT will work for you, won't it?
14:12.42WormyIts gravitational uinfluence would still exist none-the-less
14:12.52HachimanIt should
14:13.09WormyJust like how it would take 8 minutes before we realised the Sun blew up
14:13.22HachimanImperios: Yes that's fine
14:13.32Imperiosrite
14:17.07HachimanSo what do you think of Tet and Zark?
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14:22.03Hachimanhai u
14:22.09OluapPlayeromg hai
14:22.09HachimanWe were just talking about SoG
14:22.14OluapPlayerHm?
14:22.20HachimanImp liked the ending
14:22.43OluapPlayerOh cool
14:23.00HachimanI was also asking what people think makes Tetra and Zark interesting
14:23.10HachimanI am updating Zark's page btw
14:23.33OluapPlayeryey
14:23.55OluapPlayerI had no electricity all morning
14:24.07OluapPlayerI've been waiting for 3 and a half hours
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14:30.50dino__hellow
14:32.37OluapPlayerhi
14:39.02Imperioshttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140716143636/spore/images/9/92/Thessina_Venoriel_Portrait.png BTW look
14:40.37HachimanNice, I like
14:45.16TekDroidDumb cat. XD I just got it to chase my mouse cursor.
14:47.03dino__oh nice portrait
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14:50.51DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
14:52.31Hachimanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYBZMRWcEBk This is genius
14:54.21dino__hello
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15:42.56Wormy~999999999999999999999999999999999+101010101010101010101010101010101010*50
15:42.56infobota number with quite a few digits...
15:43.21Wormy5.051505050505051e+36
15:43.33Wormyan interesting sequence I thought
15:47.20dino__lol
16:04.11OluapPlayerlosa
16:04.52Technobliteratorya moms dum
16:06.20OluapPlayerDid you chek the SoG ending?
16:07.15TekDroidSo on Monday I had to cancel all my plams to wait for maintenance that never ended up being, and now they randomly show up right before I have to leave for an appointment. -.-
16:08.15TechnobliteratorI did, I think
16:08.26Technobliteratordouble checks
16:09.08Technobliteratorthe Epilogue final section is the only place where the use of tabbers on the page makes sense
16:09.23OluapPlayerdun care deel wit it
16:09.36Technobliteratoryor dum
16:10.06TechnobliteratorZoltik#s "i'm fucking invincible" was cool but predictable
16:10.12OluapPlayerhur
16:10.26OluapPlayerI did it because it was predictable
16:10.56Technobliteratoryeah, which is why it was cool
16:11.05Technobliteratorbrought a smile to my face
16:11.24Technobliterator"Zaharalei - Hmpf... You will pay for this one day... You confront gods, "son of Gotla"... You have evolved because we allowed it... and you will die, because we demand it."
16:11.29Technobliteratoroh my god where was this quote from uhh
16:11.36Technobliteratorit was the Reapers
16:11.37OluapPlayerTry to guess it
16:11.38Technobliteratorfrom ME?
16:11.40OluapPlayerBlah
16:11.43OluapPlayeryes
16:11.56TechnobliteratorI KNEW it was familiar
16:11.58OluapPlayerIt's a quote from Sovereign
16:12.39TechnobliteratorI remember now
16:13.11Technobliteratorstory overall was pretty fun, the characters were not bad but I preferred the Penumbra Unit's characters
16:13.19Technobliteratorthey were good, just not as memorable
16:13.34OluapPlayerBut Tetra IS a Penumbran
16:13.55TechnobliteratorI know
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16:14.51Technobliteratorand Tetra had some pretty good character development
16:18.03OluapPlayerWell I'm glad you enjoyed it
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16:20.43HachimanGood news is that there will be more Tetra at some point
16:21.19Monet_Yay
16:22.13OluapPlayerhi
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16:24.09CyrannianHello!
16:24.24OluapPlayer~throw Cyrannian
16:24.24infobotACTION winds up and throws Cyrannian over the moon.
16:24.31Cyrannian~tickle OluapPlayer
16:24.31infobotACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!"
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16:58.39dino__monet!
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16:59.09OluapPlayerspu
16:59.16Xhou
16:59.22XhoYou missed something hilarious last night
16:59.34XhoStylx, Sherman and I were on Steam group chat playing Cards Against Humanity
17:01.03XhoIt got to the point where we all broke down in laughter and couldn't talk
17:02.33OluapPlayerwot hapn
17:03.26XhoIt was like "My sexual fetish: Jeff Blum screaming "Heil Hitler" at the end of every film"
17:03.54OluapPlayerwot
17:04.50XhoI dunno either but it was hilarious
17:05.06XhoIf I can get Stylx to start up another game you should join
17:05.39OluapPlayerI don't even know what that game is
17:05.53XhoBasically you get this premise on one card
17:06.01XhoAnd then the players get other cards that can fill the blanks in
17:06.08XhoFunniest ones get points
17:08.47Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5v2Gr3Ov_Q Legendary
17:08.54Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Mou%27Cyran - le capital of the New Republic, quotes would make me smiley face.
17:09.22Xhou dun get quotes cuz u sed 'le capital'
17:09.38Xho"Telemachus"
17:09.50XhoI'm just going to assume all of the inhabitants of Telemachus are moody and don't get anything done
17:10.13XhoAnd wait for their fathers who they have not seen since they were a newborn
17:10.50CyrannianI just liked the name hur
17:11.02XhoAnd their mothers knit weird tapestries because they don't want suitors at their feet
17:11.30XhoThe Odyssey is a strange book
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17:13.17CyrannianI was reading Ulysses at the time, and there are connections to the Odyssey in it I believe.
17:14.07XhoUlysses is Odysseus
17:14.17XhoAt least the roman equivalent
17:14.40XhoTelemachus would be his son and I forget the name of his wife
17:14.52XhoPenelope I believe
17:17.15XhoIt's a good read but considering it's translated from 2500 year old Ancient Greek it's sometimes hard to read
17:17.30Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10478108_920973864586507_6433823921710892972_n.jpg?oh=eef8215eb880e3a90fd06266df7074ba&oe=544CC2D1
17:18.07Xho5spooky7me
17:18.24ImperiosHmmmm
17:18.38ImperiosWhat would be a fitting policy for Thessina
17:18.49OluapPlayer"Give me the D"
17:18.52Xhoex
17:18.56XhoDammit
17:19.01XhoExactly what I was going to say hur
17:19.18Xho>gets Hachi                      "NO              I DON'T WANT THAT"
17:19.54Monet_Imperios: Let me think
17:20.18OluapPlayer"I'M NEVER COMING BACK HERE"
17:22.53Monet_Wait ,is she one of these "to serve the Divinarium" tpyes?
17:23.19ImperiosShe has some shades of this but that is her mother's influence
17:23.29Monet_"To seek the truth and lean the secrets of the Messengers" perhaps
17:23.35Monet_"to seek the truth" perhaps?
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17:23.55imperios_She is not a super-traditionalistic zealot no
17:24.19Monet_Okay remove the "serve the messengers" bit.
17:24.49imperios_wait what did you send
17:25.08Monet_I was intending ot say "to seek the truth"
17:25.18Xho"I will break the Kicathian chastity belt."
17:25.22XhoWait that's Kalcedia
17:28.17OluapPlayerMore like "I broke the Kicathian chastity belt."
17:28.30XhoNu - rite
17:28.33Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knxz4DLQzUs Psi
17:28.42OluapPlayerwith Mu, not Nu
17:29.18CyrannianI'll be back in a while
17:29.25XhoNu - wat
17:31.42XhoNu - u let mu screw u         girl u hav no standards
17:32.30OluapPlayerMu - i didnt even enjoy it
17:32.44XhoProbably the most Kicathian answer one could give
17:33.02OluapPlayerolol
17:33.09Xho"Had sex once. Didn't enjoy it. She wouldn't stop moaning. Is that normal in aliens?"
17:33.27Hachimanhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/722/174/0a5.gif
17:33.43XhoParenting Level: Dad
17:33.52XhoNice house though from what I see
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17:34.57WormyThe First Computer Bug behold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:H96566k.jpg
17:35.16DrodoEmpirelol
17:35.22imperios_huyr
17:36.10dino__lol
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17:39.29Monet_Hello
17:39.33Val_Hello
17:39.41DrodoEmpireHey
17:40.19Val_Hey Drodo
17:43.27TekDroidHello
17:44.30OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/tg/1405521021073.jpg
17:44.49WormyI've been teaching myself Javascript today
17:45.26Technobliteratorhave you now
17:45.34Technobliteratorwhere are you learning from?
17:45.39WormyCodecadamy
17:45.46Technobliteratorah
17:45.54Technobliteratorjavascript is the one language I've never really liked
17:46.43Technobliteratorwell
17:46.53WormyI want to learn it so that I can make my geological models into interactive media, or make simulations eventually *ultra nerd level*
17:46.57Technobliteratorit's useful as hell but I can't get my head around it
17:47.05Technobliteratoryou can also be useful to the wiki :o
17:47.29XhoHm what to do
17:47.42TekDroidI should look into javascript. Is it anything like Java?
17:47.49Technobliteratorsorta
17:48.08OluapPlayerwrite more Pelagrios stoof
17:48.08WormyI also want to learn Python and MEL (for Maya)
17:48.16Technobliteratorhttps://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_javascript.xml
17:48.21Technobliteratorpython? :D
17:48.28TechnobliteratorI'm learning that (or trying to)
17:48.28Wormyaye
17:48.42Xhofien
17:48.51Technobliteratorthe new TechnoBot is based on Python
17:49.37Monet_Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Provinces#Kicath_Enclave you could always fil lthis in
17:49.49WormyI understand some of the rules behind it (like boolean, conditionals and strings) since I've studied computer sci out of interest
17:49.49XhoI'll do that after this prologue thing
17:50.16WormyReminds me of Propositional calculus
17:50.23Technobliteratorif you're learning Python, then I should probably make TechnoBot available to you
17:50.35Technobliteratorstill need a good name for it, though
17:50.40Wormyyeah, it might help me learn it faster too
17:50.53TekDroidI think Python or C+ was another I wanted to learn. Basically I just want to knlw more than Java went I start uni this fall. :P
17:50.57TekDroid*know
17:51.03WormyI could think of some obscure reference for you
17:51.14WormyTURINGbot
17:51.20Technobliteratorhm
17:51.36WormyOraclebot
17:51.52Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/The_Oracle
17:52.24Technobliteratoris there an image?
17:52.31WormyI was thinking of computer theory references lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_machine
17:52.55TechnobliteratorWait, I got it
17:53.06Technobliteratorwe should call the new bot Debug Squid!
17:53.16TekDroidlol
17:53.18Xhodobog sqood
17:53.21WormyHm, I'm already 10% through the codeacademy courtse then again its pretty simple to start with
17:53.37WormyYeah Debug Squid is the best one
17:53.49TekDroidI like it.
17:53.58TechnobliteratorDebug Squid Bot?
17:54.43WormyJo:  So if you think I could make interactive media stuff, I could put them on the wiki?
17:54.58Technobliteratorif it's in javascript, definitely
17:55.03Wormycool
17:55.08Technobliteratorone sec
17:55.10WormyI can definately explore this
17:55.31WormyMight take me a while to learn it though on top of everything else
17:55.40TekDroidIt's a shame I could never import my clock app to the wiki. :( Javascript probably doesn't have the functions.
17:56.17WormyI'm sure you can build clocks in it
17:57.02TekDroidMaybe I'll look into it.
17:57.06TekDroidgtg though.
17:57.10Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davidgothberg/clock
17:58.12TechnobliteratorDebug Squid or Debug Squid Bot?
17:58.26TechnobliteratorTekDroid, it almost certainly does
17:58.28WormyI'd lover to program the Game of Life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdMzngWchDk
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17:58.41TechnobliteratorTekDroidIt's a shame I could never import my clock app to the wiki.Javascript probably doesn't have the functions.
17:58.45TechnobliteratorIt almost certainly does
17:58.52Technobliteratorif you rewrite with JS
17:59.19WormyDebug Squid Bot
17:59.59Monet_Javascript is how Runescape can be played ona browser
18:00.28Monet_If RUnescape can be run via Java, a clock can
18:02.15WormyA surprisingly good book for programmers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach
18:02.45WormyIt has chapters on prop calculus - uses strings and rules similar to javascript lol
18:03.42OluapPlayerhttp://www.theverge.com/2014/7/15/5901621/marvels-thor-is-now-a-woman this can't be right
18:04.42HachimanEh I don't mind
18:05.24HachimanIt's retcon at least, it's a new Thor
18:05.28Hachiman*not a retcon
18:06.09WormyMarvel Thor is just an imitation of Norse Thor to me http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/images/stories/large/2008/10/21/thor_web.jpg
18:06.30HachimanWell yeah he is, he was inspired by the Norse god hur]
18:06.57Monet_Wormy: More like Norse Thor written into comics
18:07.27WormyTomorrow is Thor's Day
18:07.29Monet_The intention was to print comics of the adventures of the Norse god of hunder.
18:07.38Monet_thunder*
18:08.26imperios_Monet_: That makes me wonder
18:08.35Tek0516I'd heard about the female Thor thing on the news.
18:08.36imperios_Will we have Super Jesus 1000 years in the future
18:09.03Monet_Jesus is way too mainstream.
18:09.23Monet_But if the Church as an institution collapses ,its possible
18:09.25WormyHachiman:  Viking metal about Thor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOuTRf886kM
18:09.32Tek0516Thor probably was too over a thousand years ago. :P
18:09.55Monet_Problem may be that Thor, for a long time was already a warrior.
18:09.58WormySuper Jesus has already existed in a number of Christian kids cartoons and games.
18:10.06imperios_Monet_: Hence *1000 years in the future* hur
18:10.20imperios_And Islam is rising so hey it's not unlikely
18:10.22WormyI'll have to find it it is hilarious
18:10.27imperios_Then again Muslims revere Jesus as well
18:10.28Tek0516Plus Thor has awesome powers too. Jesus just does fancy stuff then gets killed by Romans.
18:10.37imperios_Well basically
18:10.50Monet_Tek0516: That's what I was thinking just now. Thor's a warrior, Jesus is a pacifist
18:10.54imperios_In MMO terms, Thor's the DPS and Jesus's the healer
18:11.13Monet_How do you get thousands of nerds talking about a super-pacifist?
18:11.25imperios_rite
18:11.54imperios_...Muhammad then, he was a political and military leader
18:12.03Monet_Although I think there are stories of Jesus telling people off.
18:12.05imperios_Now we just need Islam to rise, then fade, and voila!
18:12.09Monet_And expelling demons.
18:12.36imperios_Van Jesus
18:12.54imperios_Thank God Val isn't here, he'd have a heart attack hur
18:13.17HachimanI remember the story about the guy who had a thousand demons inside of him, Legion
18:13.35Monet_Hachiman: "My name is Legion, for we are many"
18:13.58Monet_Jesus drove out the demons and sent them into a herd of pigs who subsequently drowned themselves.
18:14.03HachimanI also think that the Samaritan character has been done to death in modern media as well
18:14.06XhoSOOPAR GEEZUSH
18:14.15OluapPlayerolol
18:14.41imperios_You know what's funny?
18:14.45XhoYou
18:14.48Xhohoh
18:14.55OluapPlayerdat not rite
18:15.01Xhodouble hoh
18:15.30imperios_Nowadays due to the Good Samaritan story we come to associate the word "Samaritan" with benevolence yet actually the Jews and the Samaritans did *not* like each other and that's kinda the point of the story
18:15.33Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eschaton_Prologue_-_Pelagrios#Storm.27s_Throne I got started, then I had to go do something and now I don't feel like doing any more
18:15.48OluapPlayerGoddamnit spu
18:15.54imperios_"Hey this dude may be your enemy but he can still be a good guy"
18:16.17imperios_So "the Good Samaritan" is like... hm...
18:16.24Monet_Hachiman: Saying "Samaritan" reminds me of a Mitchell and Webb sketch where Jesus is talking about the story "The Good Samaritan" and says that most of them are jerks, cue several of the audience saying how they've met some really nice Samaritans and that Jesus is being a bigot calling them all jerks.
18:16.25imperios_What are the British's main enemies
18:16.34Monet_France.
18:16.43imperios_The Good French then hur
18:16.46HachimanGermans
18:16.47imperios_Now where's Angrybirds
18:17.02imperios_nu
18:17.02XhoThe British's main enemies are Islamic terrorists hur
18:17.05imperios_Germans are *our* worst enemies
18:17.06Hachimanolol
18:17.07Monet_Well we're not enemies with France so much after the entente.
18:17.17HachimanEngland has a lot of main enemies
18:17.25HachimanThe French, the Scots, the Germans
18:17.34HachimanThe Middle Eastern terrorists hur
18:17.41OluapPlayerXho: Bone-Breaker - akshually shittin myself
18:18.07XhoI do kind of find it odd myself that Bone-Breaker is over a thousand years old and has never been to Storm's Throne
18:18.15imperios_We have MUHRICA, Poland, probably Ukraine now
18:18.16OluapPlayery u cock-block me like dis
18:18.18OluapPlayerwrite moar
18:18.25XhoMost or all Néva do go there at least once by the time they're 200
18:18.27imperios_And Middle Eastern terrorists too hur
18:18.55Monet_My understanding is we're doing better with France and Germany now.
18:19.18HachimanGermany righted itself so it doesn't reich itself again
18:19.35Xhoget out
18:19.43Xhojust gtfo
18:19.51imperios_I did Nazi that coming
18:20.08OluapPlayerquit ur cancer and go edit paegs
18:20.10Tek0516Nazi puns? really?
18:20.11Xhonoh
18:20.16Hachimanimperios_: You need to concentrate more then
18:20.25XhoOh wow, Sunn O))) is on iTunes
18:20.31imperios_Sunn O)))
18:20.32imperios_)))
18:20.37imperios_Is he a Russian or something
18:20.40Monet_Hachiman: That delivery was bad
18:20.58XhoIt's an American drone metal band
18:21.21Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL5Ilyv98c8 Sounds like Angazhar's laughter
18:21.33imperios_Hachiman: Funny because a dude said all of my race should be thrown into concentration camps
18:21.48HachimanWas that dude Stalin or Hitler or
18:21.49imperios_Today early in the morning, on VK
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18:22.03imperios_You know what's funny?
18:22.06Quark8Hello.
18:22.07imperios_He had a Polish surname
18:22.14Hachimanohgod
18:22.17Tek0516Funny how after all those centuries of war for the most part Europe is is nice and friendly.
18:22.18XhoYou say "you know what's funny"
18:22.20XhoI am yet to laugh
18:22.51WormyI don't know why you are trying to reason with the intolerant.  They are beyond reason.
18:22.58XhoThey are beyond
18:22.59XhoRaisn
18:23.02imperios_Racists are funny
18:23.03Tek0516Agreed
18:23.05XhoRaisin even
18:23.14XhoI don't like raisins
18:23.32Tek0516Well not to the funny part. Except the stupid ones.
18:23.56WormySome good old Karl Popper quotes http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Karl_Popper#The_Open_Society_and_Its_Enemies_.281945.29
18:24.40XhoKarl Popper eh
18:24.45XhoHad to learn about him in Sociology
18:24.51imperios_I actually acted polite and reasonable when talking to him hur
18:24.56XhoAnd all about that nutty falsification sstuff
18:25.10imperios_Then he said I do that because I subonsciously understand my inferiority or something hur
18:25.28Monet_In one of the campaigns of the game Rise of Nations set durinf the Cold War, if you as Russia invade the continental United States, they will lauch nukes at their former territories but if you invade the USSR as the United States, Russia doesn't.
18:25.58Monet_Nuke its own former territories
18:26.18HachimanXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eAUZBHYsRo&list=LLYyX9fm5HgKNyQaRDmPqReQ&index=3
18:26.34WormyIt works in science quite well.  Rather than trying to prove theories, tentative refutation is key
18:27.10Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explanatory_power
18:29.09Wormy"Science must begin with myths, and with the criticism of myths." A favourite of mine
18:29.33XhoFunny because my dad was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes the other day
18:29.53HachimanOuch
18:30.31XhoIt's more of a nuisance than something serious from what I gather
18:30.42XhoYou just have to eat right and you'll do fine for the most part
18:30.49XhoIf not you risk strokes and amputations
18:31.08Monet_There's a lot of sugar in our modern cuisine
18:31.47WormyWell, it can increase the chances of cancer, that is something to watch out for if it wasn't diagnosed for a long time.
18:31.48Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0TEJMJOhk&list=PLuKg-WhduhkmIcFMN7wxfVWYu8qnk0jMN Santorakh's new anthem
18:31.52Monet_Stories that victorians had black teeth came about because Elizatethans were hooked on this stuff called "caster sugar"
18:32.01WormyI've had relatives die from cancer-linked diabetes
18:32.17Monet_Argh where is my brain!
18:32.21WormyBut then they weren't diagnosed for half their life
18:32.45Monet_Stories that Elizabethans had black teeth came about becausethey were hooked on this stuff called "caster sugar"
18:32.56Monet_But even so, sugar was a rich-person's good.
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18:33.19Monet_Its probably another oen of those stories where the poor were eating better
18:35.33WormyUnless there was a blight of pests or poor harvest.
18:36.01TekDroidAlso sugar was a luxury until a couple centuries ago. It really only took off after colonialism.
18:36.17WormyWinter must have been deathly scary to people in the olden days.  No wonder they had various celebrations to cheer themselves up.
18:37.26TekDroidWinter games also gave them something to do other than trying not to freeze to death.
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18:38.52Monet_Yes, the poor did eat better unless there was a pest blight or a poor harvest. But medieval peasants did eat lots of healthy fresh vegetables, brown bread and porridge.
18:39.13Monet_Porrige is an underrated meal.
18:39.52WormyPeople romance about the olden days but I don't.  People's lives never changed, they trusted authorities who knew very little and worked from rules of thumb, it was even a taboo in old cultures to want change
18:39.57TekDroidOf course back them poor also basically meant a farmer or servant.
18:40.37TekDroidMostly the former and thus they only had what they grew to eat.
18:41.18Monet_No society is perfect.
18:41.26TekDroidIndeed.
18:41.28Monet_Perfection is boring.
18:42.52WormyIn some ways people did eat more veg and less meat and I can see why that benefited them.  They might have been stronger and tougher in the fact people worked damn hard.  But at the same time, to have diseases sweep through your village every year, fear of attacks by rivals, it was probably pretty brutal
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18:43.23DrodoEmpireHey
18:43.40Quark8Hey
18:43.42WormyOf course many people still live like that I guess but we (the luckier ones) must be stronger in different ways
18:43.56Wormylike increased lifespan etc.
18:44.28Wormyand winter is coming!
18:44.33WormyWINTER
18:44.44Monet_Rationalism vs Romanticism
18:44.45WormyI could just imagine the deathly fear of WINTER gods
18:46.04WormyRomanticism is a strange meme to the rationalists
18:46.29WormyI admit, I romanticise about the Edwardian period
18:46.39Monet_I remember reading that in the 18th and 19th centuries it was a thing for scholars and intellectuals to slag off the Church. And it was subconsciously encouraged among intellectuals to treat anything that wasn't cold reason as rubbish to be discarded.
18:46.48Wormyif I had a time machine I'd see the turn of the 20th century
18:47.07TekDroidAn interesting fact I learned in history class is that the average marriage length hasn't changed much in the past few centuries.
18:47.26Monet_TekDroid: So much for "til death do us part"
18:47.41WormyMonet:  Positivism?
18:47.45TekDroidWhile divorces are higher back then it was because they'd more likely have one die.
18:47.49Xhongh
18:47.51XhoPositivism
18:47.52Xhono me gusta
18:47.57Xhono me gusta nada
18:48.06Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_positivism
18:48.12WormyI Despise logical positivism
18:48.18Wormydon't worry
18:48.24XhoSociological positivism is a pain the arse
18:49.08Wormy"Logical positivism became famed for vigorous scientific antirealism to purge science of talk about nature's unobservable aspects—including causality, mechanism, and principles"
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18:50.14WormyErnst Mach was a logical positivist and it stopped him from accepting atomic theory because he couldn't see atoms.  If he could see atoms, he;d still dispute the less observable aspects of atoms
18:50.17CyrannianHello!
18:50.20Monet_In a way, the science vs. religion debate shifted into next gear in this time because scholars didn't *want* to associate themselves in any way with the clergy.
18:50.32Wormythats the flaw to positivism
18:50.35DrodoEmpireHey Cyrannian
18:50.36WormyHi
18:50.42XhoOluapPlayer: get on group chat u
18:50.50OluapPlayery
18:50.56Xhocuz we gon play gaem
18:51.12OluapPlayerwat game
18:51.18XhoCards Against Humanity
18:51.21XhoTrust me you will laugh
18:51.35OluapPlayerbah
18:51.36OluapPlayerfien
18:51.37XhoIt's basically a website group that we all join and we see the same game in progress
18:52.06HachimanThis sounds fun ;A;
18:55.01OluapPlayergo edit thing
18:56.13XhoHachiman: I did invite you to the chat
18:56.22Xhoand get on voice chat u stoopid
18:56.30Hachimanwhere dis
18:56.48XhoSteam
18:57.28Hachimani dun git no invite
18:58.31XhoOluapPlayer: y u leev chat
18:58.42OluapPlayerI'm not interested
18:59.24Xhoy not
19:01.43Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Debug_Squid_Bot
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19:05.23Xhoy oluap being dum
19:07.15dromAfter a decent amount of time spent on RP in Arma 3. It's meanier than DarkRP.
19:07.32dromCops randomly impound your vehicles.
19:07.47dromHigh-end bandits camping around civil areas.
19:08.00dromEveryone is robbed.
19:08.07Monet_I thought Arma was a military sim?
19:08.21dromIt's.
19:08.32dromThere's a RPG style gamemode though.
19:08.55Monet_You need a court marshal system
19:10.07dromThere's none.
19:10.24drombtw. All players drive like russians.
19:11.28dromand fun fact. There's no rule against that
19:15.08WormyCool https://www.khanacademy.org/computing/cs/programming-natural-simulations
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19:16.02Zillafire101Hello all.
19:16.26DrodoEmpireHey
19:18.15TekDroidHello
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19:20.51Sporeraptorhihi
19:20.56Monet_Hi
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19:28.17DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADrodo_Empire/Police_Force - For those who haven't seen this yet
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19:29.09Monet_You love your horses :)
19:29.11Monet_Hi
19:29.17DrodoEmpireYeah
19:29.21DrodoEmpireI made it work, anyway
19:29.23DrodoEmpireXD
19:29.53DrodoEmpireIn fiction the Drodo have a horseriding tradition; Cavalry never totally died and nor did its use in transportation in there history
19:30.11DrodoEmpire*as transportation
19:30.24Monet_Horses jsut got an upgrade in the form of cybernetics
19:30.38HachimanReminds me of Fenrisian wolves
19:30.38Monet_Needs RoboHorse.film
19:30.39DrodoEmpireExactly, yeah
19:30.51SporeraptorLooks very good. But why does the police have battleships ?
19:31.04DrodoEmpireWell they're border guards
19:31.20Monet_Makes sense they would ahve a form of spacelane patrol
19:31.22DrodoEmpireAlongside that they ahve a longer list of responsibilites and are better armed than most.
19:31.32DrodoEmpireThey also use tanks and field guns.
19:31.54HachimanThe Space Wolves Chapter of Space Marines sometime use packs of cybernetically-enhanced Fenrisian wolves, which are like dire wolves in comparison to Terran wolves, and the more commended SMs get to ride their own colossal Fenris wolves into battle
19:32.44Monet_Cept Fenrisian wolves get the bonus they cna vary betwen the size of a car to the size of a TANK.
19:33.01DrodoEmpireBut yeah, in order to fight pirates, hostile invasion and rebellion they have battleships, heavily-armed space stations, tanks, etc.
19:33.12DrodoEmpireHuh. o.o
19:33.54Monet_http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/photopost/data/578/medium/Wolf_Lord1.jpg the man on top is about 9-10ft tall
19:35.06Monet_The IMDP sounds lik a hybrid of a police force and a national guard/territorial army
19:35.18DrodoEmpireBasically.
19:35.31Cyrannianbrb
19:35.44HachimanI heard a pretty cool theory that the phrase "There are no wolves on Fenris" actually refers to the idea that Fenrisian wolves are post/transhumans lost after the Dark Age of Technology who modified their form to adapt to Fenris' environment
19:36.00HachimanAnd Fenrisian wolves are noted for having human-like eyes, according to the Space Wolves
19:36.05DrodoEmpireIn case of invasion or armed revolt, they work with the local militia and any military forces to defend and fight back.
19:36.24Monet_The DI's Domestic Security has access ot starships and military hardware.
19:36.46DrodoEmpireAh, so not too different from the Drodoian police
19:37.24DrodoEmpireMade a mistake with the grenade launcher; I meant to say it was break-action, not breechloading.
19:38.25Monet_Yes although there is a training-based divide within Domestic Security between being a patrol officer and an anti-piracy officer.
19:38.55DrodoEmpireI see
19:48.22DrodoEmpireSo quick question about the civverse;
19:48.31DrodoEmpireWhat will be the main specie(s), if any?
19:48.45DrodoEmpire*species(s)...?
19:48.59Monet_Notihng specific yet although there has been question as to whether or not we include humans
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20:11.53DrodoEmpireHey
20:13.26Monet_Hi
20:14.45AngrydroidHeya. Back in the states.
20:18.16dromStarted playing Arma3 again.
20:18.42dromTwo squeakers screamed in the "side" chat. It made to crash into a tree with my offroad pickup.
20:19.24dromI surivied the crash. But I forgot to buy those toolkits that you can use to repair broken vehicles with. I'm deserted.
20:20.06DrodoEmpireOuch.
20:23.40dromI commited suicide. I'm going to make a run on mining salt, process it and then sell it.
20:24.29DrodoEmpireHmm...
20:25.03dromAll I can hope that the license is free.
20:25.05DrodoEmpireI think I'll see if I can write up the Gigaquadrant's equivalent to the Geneva Conventions. :P
20:25.25DrodoEmpireAs in, write it up and see if any fictions will sigh onto it, meaning they'll accept the terms.
20:25.38DrodoEmpire*sign
20:26.26Monet_I have talked about "sapient rights conventions"
20:26.38Monet_Or at least mentioned it in my work
20:27.00DrodoEmpireRight
20:30.21GhelHello.
20:30.56DrodoEmpireHey
20:33.34dino__bye
20:33.36dino__have to elave again
20:33.38dino__bye bye all
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20:34.17DrodoEmpireHey
20:34.49ImpyDroidHachiman: It's an interesting theory
20:35.03ImpyDroidI wonder how did they get from modified humans to actual wolves though hur
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20:36.06Sporeraptorhi
20:36.11DrodoEmpireHey
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20:48.47TekDroidHello
20:50.36Quark8Hello.
20:53.15Sporeraptorhi
21:02.12WormyIs this meaning of life?  http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3bcc197vH1qafpe7.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUHQ2ybTejU  http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/EP0452413B1/00250001.png  http://www.palindromelist.net/A-car-a-man-a-maraca/  What cane last man or gene?
21:02.19dromAw yiss. Sold 40 units of refined salt for 66k dollars.
21:04.27Wormyfinal reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq1GMg4uFNM
21:05.28ImpyDroidHi
21:07.00Monet_drom: is 66k good money?
21:09.28WormyA Toyota! Race fast, safe car! A Toyota!
21:10.19WormyA man, a plan, a cat, a ham, a yak, a yam, a hat, a canal-Panama!
21:11.03dromMonet_: Better than wasting your life on grinding peaches and apples.
21:11.18dromBut not better than doing drug business though.
21:11.31Monet_Drugs are very good money I imagine
21:11.38dromYes. But it very risky.
21:11.46Monet_Like in real life
21:11.50dromThe expenses are huge when you get caught.
21:12.06dromSo you gotta have some "rebel licenense"
21:13.56dromOoooh. I heard a C4 beep from my truck.
21:14.28Monet_Sah-boh-tage!
21:14.53dromI bet that was one of those clan stacking kiddies, which I rejected their power, who planted it while I was depositing my profit.
21:15.36Monet_Can you take it off?
21:16.09dromNope. I can't find it. But I can't risk losing my gear and truck. (even the truck will later respawn in the garage)
21:18.26dromSo I instead take out one of my offroads from a nearby garage and take off to the "hobo city" and buy a bigger truck.
21:18.33dromBigger truck = more cargo = more profit.
21:19.54Monet_Dare I ask why it's called hobo city?
21:20.19Monet_Apart from being overrun with tramps.
21:20.24dromBecause too many people who start there without any pocket money.
21:21.00dromSo yeah. Newbies run around the streets without any money in their pocket. Despite their "starter" in their bank accounts.
21:22.04Monet_I take it all the newbs don't realise this starter amount exists?
21:22.38dromYeah. BUT they DON'T KNOW where the ATMs are.
21:23.01Monet_LOL
21:23.18Monet_First challenge in Arma 3 RP: Find an ATM without getting killed.
21:24.02dromSecond challenge in Arma 3 RP: Reach the Car Store before a hobo reaches you.
21:24.21Monet_Reminds me of a zombie apocalypse
21:24.43Monet_Only instead of zombies smelling your lfesh its hobo noobs who smell your cash
21:25.00Monet_I can jsut imagine it now
21:25.15Monet_hobos running with arms out and groaning "moooonnneeeyyy"
21:25.21DrodoEmpire"Hobos who smell your cash"
21:25.24dromThird challenge: Figure out how to text to the police to get rid off the cars blocking the spawn points for your newly bought vehicle.
21:25.35DrodoEmpireSounds like my town's inner areas. :P
21:26.50dromFourth challenge: Try to avoid thevies who loot your bag from behind. And make it out alive to your car. If you didn't forgot to lock it on your way in to the store.
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21:28.32dromFifth challenge: Watch out for the british drivers.
21:28.46Monet_How are they bad?
21:29.02dromYou heard right. I play in an UK server. I live in Sweden. There's drivers who drive on the left side.
21:29.18dromI drive on the right side.
21:29.30dromYou'll figure out.
21:29.43Monet_So British as in they drive on the left
21:29.49Monet_And thus head on collisions
21:30.09Monet_Why not just drive on the left?
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21:30.24Wormyohgodlol "As I pee, sir, I see Pisa!"
21:30.44drom80% of the drivers drive on right-hand.
21:30.56Monet_Oh...
21:34.48dromLiteraly the 8th time I have crashed with my Offroad.
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21:42.56dromShit, there's a hitman on the roof of the hospital I'm in.
21:43.19Monet_Now that's jsut terrifying
21:44.01dromThe sniper keeps firing. But I don't know, on what target.
21:44.16dromBut he has a view of the parking lot. Unfortunatly, my car is there.
21:44.21Monet_Is there roof access?
21:44.53dromI don't think so. I don't either have weapons. There's no fisting function in this one.
21:45.30Monet_Little warning: "fisting" is a naughty word in English.
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21:45.43Monet_But I knwo what you mean
21:46.03dromGunshots in a civil area.
21:46.07dromThings have gone bad.
21:46.14Quark8I got EUIV.
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21:48.24DrodoEmpireQuark: Nic
21:48.29DrodoEmpire*Nice
21:50.37drom"The Federal Reserve is being robbed"
21:59.49Sporeraptorbye+
22:03.41WormyInstalling AutoCad Civil 3D
22:08.49dromfucking looters stealing toolkits from my truck.
22:09.01Liquid_Inkwut
22:11.12Monet_This Arma 3 server sounds anarchic
22:13.38dromthere is still some peaceful places in this one.
22:13.44dromlike the salt mines.
22:13.51dromMainly the east side of Altis.
22:15.11dromSo I ask you. Have you ever played Arma 3?
22:16.38Monet_Not really.
22:16.40Monet_I have wondered about it
22:18.46dromSome guys robbed some 10 dollars from some guys then killed them.
22:19.05dromOverhearing them. They are now worried, because the cops are coming.
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22:19.38CyrannianHello!
22:20.19DrodoEmpireHey
22:20.29dromhey there
22:20.40TekDroidHello
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22:20.57TekDroid:O I killed Wormy
22:21.30AdmiralPandahi all
22:21.36TekDroidHello
22:21.44DrodoEmpireHey
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22:27.51WormyIs Arma 3 graphics really like this?  http://arma3.com/assets/img/screenshots/large/arma3_screenshot_01.jpg
22:27.57Wormyhi
22:28.13Monet_Hello
22:29.49Monet_Cyrannian: Sorry to ask but I noticed that you removed me from the list of Second Cyrannian War administrators. I'm just curious because I'm not sure what led to this.
22:30.36CyrannianIf you still want to be an admin, that's fine. I didn't get the impression that you were particularly interested in it.
22:32.24Monet_I think there's been a bit of misunderstanding then.
22:37.36Monet_If I wasn't interested I wouldn't have considered many ideas for it.
22:41.31CyrannianIt's not really very important anyway since adminship of the fiction doesn't entail anything.
22:43.09Angrybirds_droidHm. Why change it in the first place, then?
22:47.42DrodoEmpireAlright, so I'm compiling a list of explicitly banned weapons for the Geneva Conventions thing
22:48.07DrodoEmpireWhat are some really nasty weapons, scifi and otherwise that would be restricted or banned
22:48.09DrodoEmpire*?
22:48.14DrodoEmpire*could be
22:48.56DrodoEmpireSo far I have triangle bayonets, any type of bullet that deforms or expands easily within a body, asphixiating and poison gas and all biological weapons.
22:49.12DrodoEmpireOh! Gridfire.
22:53.47Angrybirds_droidWormy
22:54.01Angrybirds_droidIirc, gridfire blocks wormholes?
22:56.00WormyGridfire would probably cut straight through
22:56.55Drom|bedboyNiiiiight!
22:58.24Monet_Night
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23:02.28WormyAutoCad failed to install
23:02.40WormyI thin k I'll quit all other applications and try again.
23:08.40Zillafire101Hey Cyrannian, can we discuss the Second Cyrannian war?
23:09.00CyrannianSure
23:09.28Zillafire101Where do we start?
23:18.38DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Declaration_of_the_Conduct_of_War - The Geneva Convention thing I was talking about
23:26.45DrodoEmpireTell me what you think, leave a quote, or even sign onto it
23:26.48DrodoEmpire:D
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23:28.27Zillafire101Alright, looks interesting.
23:29.31DrodoEmpireThanks.
23:29.55DrodoEmpireI also guess its pretty timely, considering the whole GigaWar thing
23:30.49Zillafire101True.
23:31.06Zillafire101Zarbania graces this document with their glorious signature!
23:31.43DrodoEmpireAh, good!
23:33.49DrodoEmpireI guess one of the bigger parts would be the blacklisted weapons bit; Though, long story short it for the most part bans the destruction or bombardment of a populated world. :P
23:34.08DrodoEmpireAlong with several other miscellaneous nasties
23:34.18DrodoEmpireLike trianglular bayonets.
23:34.43AdmiralPandaleft a quote
23:35.11DrodoEmpireNice
23:35.52AdmiralPandaI can just imagine someone showing a copy of that document to Hel'Bre'K and him just thinking "ooh look at all the shiny ways I can exploit this to murder everyone who follows it" :P
23:36.59Tek0516This basically outlaws all fancy sci-fi weapons. :P
23:37.11AdmiralPanda^
23:37.22Monet_Yeah that's one issue I see, several of the greater powers have probably already broken a few or more of these conditions
23:37.25AdmiralPandanot undermining your efforts, just saying that me and my fiction think it's silly
23:38.01HachimanAye same
23:38.03Monet_Maybe trim it down slightly.
23:38.28DrodoEmpireThey don't have to sign it.
23:38.43AdmiralPandahold up guys, for the larger fictions it's not that big a deal, but for smaller fictions (which I assume it's aimed at) this is a very practical thing
23:38.43DrodoEmpireAdmiralPanda: I understand that and your fiction's mentality.
23:39.13Tek0516Doesn't help all hyperpowers and most villains use those weapons in excess. XD
23:39.13DrodoEmpireAlso, I think its a fairly obvious solution that using planet-destroying weapons is unethical at best.
23:39.18Zillafire101Would using gigantic, man-eating monsters and titans be outlawed?
23:39.25Monet_ITN Marine - You guys do realise my standard-issue rifle is designed to obliterate limbs...
23:39.31DrodoEmpireNot necessarily.
23:39.51Zillafire101Zarbania is kewl with thsi then.
23:40.00DrodoEmpireSo long as they aren't used, primarily, as terror weapons or against noncombatants.
23:40.06HachimanHow are you supposed to wage an interstellar war with rules like this
23:40.16DrodoEmpireHow?
23:40.32Monet_Hachiman: By hoping you can overcome your limitations
23:40.32DrodoEmpireThe whole point of something like this is to mitigate the actual destruction and suffering of war.
23:40.34AdmiralPandaHachiman: That's what I'm getting at, for larger powers it's ball-squeezing but lower tier fictions kinda need something like this just to keep themselves alive
23:40.50DrodoEmpireAnd once again, I'm not forcing you to sign it.
23:40.53Tek0516all "high-yield nuclear weapon" is a bit too vague, and there's others like that.
23:40.58Tek0516*also
23:41.03HachimanWhat about plasma weaponry
23:41.07AdmiralPandaI need to say ball-squeezing more often :P
23:41.09HachimanDoes that count as incendiary
23:41.12DrodoEmpireDepends.
23:41.21DrodoEmpireAnd why the fuck are you being so agressive, Hachi?
23:41.22Monet_This is my complaint partially with the weaponisation of space - I read somewhere that a powerful-enough booster can become classified as a weapon.
23:41.34HachimanExcuse me, I wasn't being aggressive
23:41.41DrodoEmpireI'm not forcing you to sign the goddamn thing.
23:41.45DrodoEmpireNo need to be terse.
23:42.05OluapPlayerYou know he's just commenting on it
23:42.11AdmiralPandaboth of you take a step back and chill before this flares up more
23:42.15DrodoEmpireAgreed.
23:42.18HachimanI was asking a simple question and you outrage at me for it
23:42.35Tek0516Most of our starship weapons in general " can partially or completely obliterate a planet"
23:42.53DrodoEmpireI found you where rather critical. I didn't like it. I apologise.
23:43.17DrodoEmpireSo what are you asking of me?
23:43.21HachimanReason I asked about it was stuff like Covenant-style plasma guns don't use bullets and are known for burning through armour and flesh yet operate how a standard gun does in overall purpose
23:43.29AdmiralPandaDrodoEmpire: The main problem I see with this is it assumes the other guy you're fighting follows the same rules (as does the current system). The moment you meet someone who doesn't follow it, you're in trouble.
23:43.51DrodoEmpireI was considering of adding a clause that makes the document not apply to non-signatories.
23:43.58Angrybirds_droidYou'd need an equivalent if the OL to enforce it.
23:44.06Angrybirds_droidOr UN
23:44.17DrodoEmpireNow! What must be done to it to make everyone satisfied and happy?
23:44.26HachimanAlso, "Highly curved sabres (II)" Does that mean no swords in combat?
23:44.31Monet_The rules of war only work when combatants care to follow them
23:44.32DrodoEmpireNo...
23:44.55DrodoEmpireIt means no swords which are highly curved; Such as many napoleonic sabres.
23:45.05DrodoEmpireTry... Well, reading/
23:45.06DrodoEmpire:P
23:45.08DrodoEmpireIts right there
23:45.10HachimanOr katanas? :P
23:45.20DrodoEmpireKatanas are hardly "highly curved".
23:45.21AdmiralPandakatanas aren't too curved :P
23:45.30DrodoEmpireOkay, fine.
23:45.32Zillafire101What about gigantic Gravity hammers?
23:45.40DrodoEmpireThat isn't a sword, so yes.
23:45.47DrodoEmpire*A highly curved sword
23:45.48AdmiralPandaI think we can stop spamming him now, just saying
23:45.55DrodoEmpireYes, please.
23:45.58DrodoEmpireHoly fuck...
23:45.58Monet_http://www.militaryheritage.com/images/1802sabre_3.jpg this kind f curve
23:46.14DrodoEmpireI post one thing and people are dogpiling me
23:46.16DrodoEmpireNow
23:46.23HachimanSo why only curved? I'm a little befuddled
23:46.23DrodoEmpireHow can I actually improve this document
23:46.30DrodoEmpireBecause historically,
23:46.57DrodoEmpireCurved sabres like the example shown where known to cause agonizing but rarely-lethal wounds.
23:47.15HachimanBut don't all blades?
23:47.19DrodoEmpireNo...
23:47.20AdmiralPandaDrodoEmpire: As I said, these kinds of document are only really suitable when two or more parties meet to agree to a set of terms. Your biggest problem, after the fact that it's silly in this context, is that you've just written this yourself. Get some other people to sit in a chat room with you and sort it out.
23:47.37DrodoEmpireCurved ones in particular are susceptible to that
23:47.45DrodoEmpireAnd depending on the usage, too
23:47.56HachimanSurely straight-edge blades like longswords can cause agonizing but rarely-lethal wounds depending on how you use them :p
23:48.05Monet_The curved bade causes an uneven gauge right?
23:48.10*** join/#sporewiki Tybusen (44e45f51@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.228.95.81)
23:48.14DrodoEmpireLike from horseback you may only have the opportunity to get off a single, innaccurate cut
23:48.16Monet_gouge*
23:48.20DrodoEmpireHence why I say "sabre"
23:48.28DrodoEmpireAs in a sword used from horseback.
23:48.29CyrannianHi Tybusen
23:48.33Monet_Hi
23:48.34AdmiralPandaih Ty
23:48.38TybusenHello
23:48.41DrodoEmpireHey
23:48.58HachimanAlso what would be the status of energy melee weaponry? Like lightsabers? And regarding infantry/elite infantry units, what about stuff regarding Essence users?
23:49.24DrodoEmpireI'll add these, for god's sakes.
23:49.31DrodoEmpireHappy?
23:49.34HachimanI was only providing suggestions Christ
23:49.38HachimanDon't need to get so tense
23:49.45AdmiralPandaslaps Hachiman and DrodoEmpire
23:49.48AdmiralPandachill out both of you
23:49.52Monet_One plus to heated blades is they cause rapid cauterisation
23:50.02Tek0516gtg
23:50.07DrodoEmpireI have been been spammed for the last ten or so minutes; I apologise for being a tad bit tense.
23:50.20AdmiralPandaMonet_: One negative is spontaneous in-vein vaporisation of blood
23:50.29HachimanI wasn't even angry, I was just asking because we have a highly-expanded science fiction universe that extends beyond the modern Geneva convention and I didn't feel all topics were covered
23:50.39Monet_We get pros and we get cons
23:51.17HachimanI'm assuming the writers of this document in-universe would know of the existence of Essence and how certain examples of people apply it for different means, which can range between beneficial and extremely hostile
23:51.43Monet_We're at the disadvantage that if we want stuff other than NATO ammunition, we're risking breaking a few rules here
23:52.24HachimanWhat do self-replicating nanomachines come under?
23:52.34Monet_If everyone complies with the geneva convention
23:52.47DrodoEmpireHachi.
23:52.49DrodoEmpireStop.
23:52.53DrodoEmpireGive me a minute
23:53.26HachimanYou wanted me to comment on it, I'm commenting on it and I'm trying to help you by pointing out shit
23:53.43DrodoEmpireAnd I appreciate that; But You aren't helping right now
23:54.04DrodoEmpireThis obviously isn't the right way to get suggestions
23:54.35HachimanI don't see what I've done wrong
23:54.49DrodoEmpireYou haven't done much of anything wrong.
23:55.15DrodoEmpireIts just commenting here isn't efficent.
23:55.36HachimanWell then that's your fault it didn't work for you, not mine
23:56.08DrodoEmpireI never accused you of anything.
23:56.13DrodoEmpireOnce again, stop it.
23:56.15DrodoEmpireI'm done.
23:56.30Zillafire101Let's just take a breather, and talk about somethign else.
23:56.32DrodoEmpireI'm going to delete the page and start fresh.
23:56.36DrodoEmpireIf at all.
23:57.58Zillafire101It is a good idea, though.
23:58.11DrodoEmpireWell thanks

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