00:02.00 | Wormy_fiction | Thank you |
00:03.23 | Wormy_fiction | Might write another section tonight. Then me, you and Tybusen ought to find some time to talk about finishing the episode with the Imperial's discovery |
00:03.40 | Cyrannian | aye |
00:08.17 | Cyrannian | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140711000736/spore/images/3/30/AdmiralReynolds.png http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140711000737/spore/images/2/21/PrestonYates.png http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140711000737/spore/images/4/4d/Morin_Ehtar.png - Three new characters. |
00:16.00 | Liquid_Ink | Cool |
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00:38.10 | DrodoEmpire | Back. :P |
00:43.08 | Wormy_fiction | hi |
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03:01.38 | OfficerJackal | Hey! |
03:01.49 | OfficerJackal | Wow, this channel is dead right now, so few people! XD |
03:04.47 | TekDroid | Hello |
03:13.28 | DrodoEmpire | test |
03:13.46 | TekDroid | How is it that every time I visit my grandparents their laptop is loaded with spam again... |
03:13.49 | TekDroid | Hey DrodoEmpire |
03:13.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
03:15.26 | OfficerJackal | TekDroid: Them toolbars are handy, one of these days you'd wish you had em! |
03:17.40 | TekDroid | Last time I'd installed some adblockers. |
03:18.02 | TekDroid | The time before that I'd ckeared a few hundred viruses. |
03:18.56 | OfficerJackal | Jebus. |
03:19.05 | OfficerJackal | A few hundread? |
03:19.08 | OfficerJackal | Hundred* |
03:20.04 | TekDroid | 497 threats on their laptop and 610 on their desktop. |
03:22.51 | TekDroid | I'm going to get started on the Frontier 1 page. I had a really awesome plan with it I wanted to do. |
03:24.12 | TekDroid | Well more a small GC plot event involving it. |
03:24.13 | OfficerJackal | Cool. :) |
03:26.56 | TekDroid | Basically it involves the station and its KSA/OL fleet doing an epic "Hold the Line" scenario against GEC invaders at some point in the war, while allied fleets rush to support. |
03:29.13 | OfficerJackal | Oh man, they are going to war against the GEC? |
03:29.40 | OfficerJackal | Need to change browsers, BRB. |
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03:58.37 | TekDroid | wb OfficerJackal |
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04:13.31 | TekDroid | . |
04:13.35 | TekDroid | whoops |
04:13.41 | TekDroid | And hello |
04:15.32 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
04:18.42 | Knight_Alien | So are you or Officer working on anything? |
04:19.25 | TekDroid | I'm creating the page for a station that's supposed to play a big role soon. |
04:20.02 | Knight_Alien | Station Halcyon? |
04:21.52 | TekDroid | No, this one is called Frontier 1. |
04:25.53 | TekDroid | It's a station to defend a Katarian wormhole. |
04:35.03 | TekDroid | I should probably work on the TekNet page tomorrow. It does cover a central aspect of my fiction and a major character, after all. |
04:35.21 | TekDroid | Alright, goodnight. |
04:39.55 | Knight_Alien | :( im all alone..... |
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07:43.44 | Ghelae | Hello. |
07:51.21 | Liquid_Ink | How are you? |
07:54.19 | Ghelae | I'm okay; how about you? |
07:57.09 | Liquid_Ink | Terrible. A game I enjoyed from childhood is unmanageably laggy on my computer. |
07:57.18 | Liquid_Ink | Other than that... bleehck |
07:58.58 | Ghelae | That's strange. You might expect old games to not work on new computers, but not work more slowly. |
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08:56.54 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
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09:43.16 | Hachiman | hai |
09:43.22 | OluapPlayer | hai |
09:46.56 | Hachiman | I'll need to talk to Wormy about this book I'm reading, it features bioships that possess genetically-inherited sapience software which communicate to their crews and capatins through a form of telepathy |
09:47.36 | Hachiman | *captains |
09:49.15 | AdmiralPanda | hai oluap |
09:52.10 | Hachiman | These "voidhawks" are 'born' when elderly voidhawks race through the rings and atmosphere of Saturn, which is where all voidhawks go to die, and release 'eggs' that are raised by other voidhawks within the rings, with these eggs containing zygotes donated by the captains of the parent voidhawk |
09:52.40 | Hachiman | So the eggs will form into voidhawks and inside these voidhawks, human infants will grow |
09:53.26 | OluapPlayer | ew books |
09:54.28 | Hachiman | These infants later become the designated captains of the voidhawks that they were formed inside and maintain a psychic connection to their voidhawk for all of their lives until the voidhawk grows old and goes to Saturn to die, with voidhawks possessing a shorter lifespan than humans in the book, who can live for more than 200 years |
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10:39.29 | OluapPlayer | dumba |
10:43.08 | Technobliterator | ya dad |
11:00.25 | Ghel | Hello. |
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11:02.33 | Hachiman | Hai |
11:05.17 | ImpyDroid | goddamn glitchy irc hyr |
11:05.20 | ImpyDroid | lemme relog |
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11:31.37 | Wormy | hi |
11:31.59 | Hachiman | Hai |
11:33.23 | Hachiman | Wormy: I was reading "The Reality Dysfunction" and it just so happens to contain circular bioships that possess genetically-inherited sapience software, meaning they're practically alive, and can communicate to their crew and captain through a form of technological telepathy. |
11:33.26 | Ghel | Hello. |
11:34.20 | Wormy | I based Cephalodian suffering/love philosophy http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Station_Halcyon/Series_2/Preview#Part_2 on John C Lilly's altered states scale http://www.whale.to/b/states.html |
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11:34.27 | Wormy | hi |
11:34.30 | Imperios_ | Finally, it works |
11:34.32 | Imperios_ | Hello |
11:34.58 | Hachiman | Voidhawks are largely biological anyway, with polyp protecting their vulnerable insides while a human habitability torus and underslung weaponry and cargo storage are attached to its top and bottom respectively |
11:35.03 | Wormy | Hachi: I do hope we have such technology one day |
11:36.09 | Hachiman | These voidhawks are 'born' when elderly voidhawks race through the rings and atmosphere of Saturn, which is where all voidhawks go to die, and release 'eggs' that are raised by other voidhawks within the rings, with these eggs containing zygotes donated by the captains of the parent voidhawk |
11:36.24 | Hachiman | These infants later become the designated captains of the voidhawks that they were formed inside and maintain a psychic connection to their voidhawk for all of their lives until the voidhawk grows old and goes to Saturn to die, with voidhawks possessing a shorter lifespan than humans in the book, who can live for more than 200 years |
11:38.56 | Wormy | They remind me of the Spline, in the Xeelee Sequence. Huge whale-like organisms who went to space and rented their bodies to other sentients. |
11:39.28 | Hachiman | Aye I like the Spline |
11:39.30 | Hachiman | https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10525581_10152475523346840_2455783745376854158_n.jpg |
11:42.01 | Wormy | fugly tings http://s3.amazonaws.com/bestsfbooks/c43b95b717b5890ebd3091b891eecde2.jpg |
11:42.37 | Wormy | so truer |
11:43.03 | Hachiman | That reminds me of the damned moon from Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask |
11:43.37 | Hachiman | http://www.rhysy.net/Baxter/galleries/Spline%20-%20Schematic.jpg I prefer this idea for the Spline myself |
11:44.12 | OluapPlayer | That moon is locked in an expression of [crashing intensifies] |
11:44.30 | OluapPlayer | I wonder how no one in that game ever commented on the fact their moon has an horrifying human face |
11:44.49 | OluapPlayer | a* |
11:45.30 | Hachiman | Well the guys in the first town you end up in deny the moon's course |
11:46.49 | OluapPlayer | They do but still the moon has a face |
11:46.57 | OluapPlayer | They act like that's completely natural |
11:47.13 | Hachiman | Wormy: There was a chapter where a voidhawk captain and her voidhawk shared intimate communication between one another before the voidhawk engaged in its final act of plunging into Saturn |
11:47.51 | Hachiman | She regretted not being able to join the voidhawk on its last flight since humans aren't permitted to join in the ritual, mainly for their own safety |
11:48.03 | OluapPlayer | brb |
11:55.25 | OluapPlayer | back |
12:01.19 | Wormy | Hachiman: I don't know what to think of this channel. Alltime10s doesn't own the concept of listing top 10s, but this guy uses a very similar symbol but in blue https://www.youtube.com/user/Top10Media |
12:01.55 | Hachiman | I think that's one of Alltime10s subchannels |
12:02.00 | Hachiman | They have multiple ones for different specific subjects |
12:02.12 | Wormy | maybe it is to grab subscribers of alltim10 in which it might be quite clever |
12:02.20 | Wormy | yeah that is possible |
12:07.44 | Hachiman | I might retcon the YSE at some point to make it less cartoony, although I gotta focus on Zazane first |
12:08.27 | OluapPlayer | us |
12:08.29 | OluapPlayer | yus even |
12:09.33 | Hachiman | If I end up making ships for it you can pretty much guarantee that its most favoured and potent fighter craft is gonna be called the "Katana" hur |
12:10.07 | Hachiman | A starfighter made of grorious nippon steer that's been folded a gorillion times |
12:15.47 | Imperios_ | Hachiman: It can even cut crabs of sorid steer |
12:15.52 | Imperios_ | *srabs |
12:16.50 | Wormy | I found this huge moth last night http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smerinthus_ocellatus |
12:18.25 | Hachiman | aka hellspawn |
12:19.24 | Wormy | it was about this size http://tpittaway.tripod.com/sphinx/s_oce_a1.jpg |
12:19.34 | Hachiman | #nope |
12:20.25 | Imperios_ | Wormy: The last link you posted was banned by the Russian government |
12:20.29 | Imperios_ | Is it that big hur |
12:20.43 | Wormy | Something they don't want you to know! |
12:21.21 | Imperios_ | Rite, I bypassed the ban no- AOMASFDAS;FASFASF |
12:21.43 | Wormy | It looks evil |
12:21.55 | Imperios_ | Putin must have been so scared by this picture that he banned the entire website hur |
12:21.56 | Wormy | It actually made be jump when it flew in my face |
12:22.33 | Wormy | It also can flash eyes at you when its pissed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Smerinthus_ocellatus_MHNT_Female_dos.jpg |
12:27.06 | Hachiman | II wonder if the Uplifted Cetacea would hold a severe grudge against the space Japanese hur |
12:27.37 | Wormy | http://youtu.be/9TyNhNY0z68?t=53s |
12:27.39 | Wormy | yeah |
12:32.47 | Hachiman | Imperios Imperios_: I'm wondering if it would be legitimate for Space!Japan to have Andromedan colonies |
12:33.12 | Wormy | I've never seen a moth being fed before. I didn't even know they ate anything during that phase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpbNtW8DenY&list=UUgMS-wum59GExmvfTcvmLsg |
12:35.23 | Hachiman | Wormy: That moth is ditzy as fuck |
12:36.16 | Hachiman | Guy - Here's some honey that you like, you're free to eat some! Moth - *flops onto its back* |
12:36.20 | Wormy | it looks weak tbh, maybe it is its first feed |
12:37.22 | Wormy | I think he put too much honey down |
12:37.35 | Wormy | It looked like it got stuck in it hur |
12:39.41 | Imperios_ | Hachiman: It'd make sense |
12:40.33 | Imperios_ | Actually I wonder |
12:41.07 | Imperios_ | Since the YSE and the EAC share the same region and the affinity for cybernetics, I wonder if the Stellar Empire began as a rogue EAC province |
12:41.29 | Hachiman | Eh I dunno |
12:42.21 | Hachiman | I like the idea of the YSE being an independent faction like Japan always has been; it's never been part a client or protectorate of anything, always its own thing |
12:43.13 | Hachiman | I do imagine that the YSE and EAC do interact a lot though |
12:46.07 | Wormy | I've thought of some quotes to make from my factions |
12:49.13 | Hachiman | As for YSE retcon stuff, it's still gonna be largely pro-human but nowhere near as extremist, with the cartoony evil stuff removed; it'll also be renamed to the Yamato Intersolar Commune |
12:50.39 | Imperios_ | More grorious hur |
12:51.06 | Hachiman | Aye, 100% more grorious |
12:52.07 | Wormy | Will it still have an emperor? |
12:52.57 | Hachiman | Yes, and he will still be inside a machine I think |
12:53.01 | Wormy | I wonder if the DCP and Yamato could have had a war once, probably the only Terran-DCP conflict (aside from fighting near-humans) |
12:53.13 | Hachiman | Aye they could have done |
12:53.28 | Hachiman | ohgod that makes me think of a potential DCP character |
12:53.54 | Wormy | Ooh? |
12:54.49 | Hachiman | A Warlord who abandoned the DCP to join Yamato and gave up his guns for hyper-advanced swords and blades |
12:55.49 | Wormy | Well, I do want more Warlords |
12:56.01 | Wormy | Every DCP sector has a Warlord |
12:56.30 | Wormy | Howabout, he was one of the Expansion Wedge sector Warlords? |
12:56.36 | Hachiman | Makes sense |
12:57.01 | Wormy | The DCP's last wave of imperalistic colonisation in the Milky Way before the Tigris War |
12:57.14 | Wormy | Might have been a point of contest with the Yamato |
12:58.23 | Wormy | The greatest are the Emperor sons/clones, but not all of them are |
12:58.31 | Wormy | All the ones so far listed are |
12:58.42 | Hachiman | Aye that makes sense |
12:59.07 | Hachiman | I am lookingb forward to more Mantisorac/DCP-Vermulan War stuff btw |
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12:59.53 | Wormy | Thank you, there is more soon to come, and it will lead to some new fiction |
13:00.07 | Wormy | hi |
13:06.29 | Liquid_Ink | There's is dissapointingly little information on Hitler's views on the Turks |
13:09.25 | Hachiman | I can imagine the Yamato Intersolar Commune and the Brood of War kinda getting on |
13:09.44 | Hachiman | I kinda regret the Brood of War name because I think it sounds a bit nooby now but eh what you gonna do hur |
13:10.50 | Hachiman | By technicality its real name is the Fourth Sovereign Domain but nobody but the politicians in the Brood call it that hur |
13:11.36 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10553636_877730498914629_5011045606138791501_n.jpg |
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13:37.05 | Jepardi | Hi |
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13:42.15 | OluapPlayer | hello |
13:42.16 | TekDroid | Hello |
13:42.28 | Monet_ | Hallo |
13:42.50 | Cuttlefish_ | Hi |
13:45.07 | Imperios_ | Hi Mon |
13:48.29 | OluapPlayer | Hmm |
13:48.45 | OluapPlayer | Would it be possible to create something like Sundowner's shields in the fictionverse? |
13:48.54 | Hachiman | Probably |
13:49.22 | Monet_ | Well the plates should be easy. |
13:49.46 | Monet_ | Although recreating the explosive effect....some regenerative explosive may be needed |
13:49.47 | OluapPlayer | I mostly mean the fukin invincibul part |
13:50.05 | Monet_ | A few mechanical arms and some interlocking plates. Easy |
13:50.38 | Monet_ | Although given the nature of soem weapons in the fictionverse,might need something better than a metallic alloy |
13:52.09 | OluapPlayer | I see |
13:52.21 | OluapPlayer | I'm totally not asking for character reasons hur |
14:12.05 | Monet_ | I wonder how effective Sundowner's shield is against smart bullets |
14:12.20 | OluapPlayer | fukin invincibul/10 |
14:13.06 | Monet_ | I say that because an advanced enough smart bullet could curve its trajectory around the shield |
14:13.31 | Hachiman | Smart bullets? |
14:14.37 | Monet_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_bullet |
14:14.49 | Monet_ | "The "smart" part comes from the bullet doing something other than simply following its given trajectory, e.g. turning, speeding up, slowing down, sending data, etc." |
14:15.31 | OluapPlayer | Sundowner would probably get wrecked |
14:15.46 | OluapPlayer | he stands completely still when shielding himself |
14:16.26 | Monet_ | Yeah, not to mentino you can get guns designed to punch though armoured vehicles |
14:20.06 | Monet_ | As I mentioned the other week, in the intro to MGR Jetstream Sam would have been cut to pieces by that mounted machinegun had he not deflected all the bullets with his sword. |
14:22.00 | Hachiman | I dunno I think that suit he's wearing could've lessened the damage somewhat |
14:24.22 | Monet_ | Yeah but those guns are designed to tear apart any protection lighter than that of an APC |
14:26.10 | Monet_ | He wouldn't have been hurt as bad, I agree, but he still migth ave lost a limb |
14:28.23 | Hachiman | Well in the end Monet |
14:28.26 | Hachiman | He did hur |
14:29.26 | OluapPlayer | le nanomachines faic |
14:35.16 | Monet_ | I'm going on the basis that modern body armour can't stop rounds li that of an MG |
14:36.01 | Monet_ | Despite the reputation of the ballistic vest, its effective at-best against small-arms fire. |
14:36.57 | Monet_ | And even a reasonably-priced set of body armour is ineffective against anything more powerful than a 9mm pistol (which most soldiers don't wear) |
14:37.48 | TekDroid | The story of military technology is one of a repeated cycle. Better armour is developed to protect against new weapons. New weapons are developed to shred better armour. |
14:38.30 | TekDroid | Armour is unlikely to ever greatly surpass weapons. |
14:41.11 | TekDroid | ~test |
14:41.12 | infobot | from memory, test is not funny |
14:41.56 | TekDroid | Sorry, got all technical again. XD |
14:45.06 | Monet_ | Its fine |
14:45.51 | Monet_ | "bulletproof" quite frequently brings up images of bullet immnity |
14:45.55 | Monet_ | immunity* |
14:46.22 | Monet_ | Although the armour firms themselves prefer the term "bullet-resistant" |
14:46.37 | Monet_ | the armour industry itself* |
14:48.06 | TekDroid | Advertising it as bulletproof would get them yelled at a lot. :P |
14:49.13 | Monet_ | Yeah, even though the term originally meant "this armous has been tested against bullets" |
14:51.08 | Monet_ | They changed probably for the same reason scientists no longer use the term "global warming" |
14:52.34 | Technobliterator | how the fuck do I reinterleave an AVI file |
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14:55.02 | Quark8 | Hello. |
14:55.14 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10488014_10152601519215879_3855382477072384318_n.jpg |
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14:59.44 | TekDroid | Hello |
14:59.52 | Quark8_ | Hi |
15:03.00 | Quark8_ | Brb breakfast. |
15:19.20 | Imperios_ | http://img.fark.net/images/cache/Y/Y_/fark_Y_4CtljjOHuoE03LOBIiF3RdVco.jpg?t=xrGK-H1TgdN8gtEvSQVbtw&f=1404705600 |
15:20.36 | Hachiman | I get a 403 and a picture of a squirrel with its balls hanging out |
15:37.47 | Imperios_ | https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc41/-6Sd2GnwYU0.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc48/5KDfnKfDFmM.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc4f/fok8O-Frzgs.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc56/_bK7erAWOVI.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc5d/OkCYl98JtgM.jpg |
15:38.25 | Imperios_ | https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc64/Qxj6NYg8ZDI.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc6b/oHqoSbefjSM.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc72/TRmxCCM-QAI.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc79/TrgFtJAdfkM.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc80/JZyQl_9l2E8.jpg I cried |
15:38.37 | Imperios_ | I still can't recognise the blue-eyed blonde girl though |
15:38.43 | Imperios_ | What cartoon is she from? |
15:38.54 | Hachiman | Alice in Wonderland |
15:40.14 | Imperios_ | Monet: https://pp.vk.me/c620030/v620030114/e09d/xP47d7a0d9A.jpg Go go power Asura |
15:47.58 | Monet_ | Lol |
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16:10.20 | Quark8 | test |
16:14.55 | Wormy | A most interesting discussion on the Vulcan's religious logic http://www.reddit.com/r/DaystromInstitute/comments/1wjixf/how_studying_philosophy_ruined_star_trek_vulcans/ |
16:15.25 | Wormy | the attacking comment (first one) is flawed but the discussion below good |
16:19.30 | Hachiman | My niece won't stop trying to touch my hair |
16:19.32 | Hachiman | tis annoyin |
16:20.07 | Monet_ | Aww :) |
16:20.22 | Hachiman | I hate human children |
16:20.34 | Quark8 | My sister once tried to cut my hair off. |
16:21.02 | OluapPlayer | olol |
16:21.12 | OluapPlayer | I don't like children or babies |
16:22.08 | Hachiman | The worst thing about children and babies is that they grow into humans |
16:22.12 | Wormy | I'm studying what Vulcan logic might actually be |
16:22.53 | Monet_ | I don't like when babies cry or when kids throw tantrums but other than that I adore them |
16:23.02 | Wormy | What do you mean? |
16:23.08 | Wormy | Humans are great! |
16:23.14 | Wormy | ...For eating! |
16:23.34 | Hachiman | Humans are dirty hairless fleshy things that consume resources without giving anything back |
16:23.46 | Hachiman | Aside from poo. And I hate poo. |
16:23.55 | Wormy | The Cephalodians are everything humans are not |
16:23.56 | Monet_ | So do cats. |
16:24.03 | Hachiman | I also hate cats hur |
16:24.13 | Monet_ | You won't like visitng myhouse then |
16:24.25 | Hachiman | ur a crazy cat lady |
16:24.39 | Wormy | I prefer dogs and dolphins to humankind |
16:25.16 | OluapPlayer | >I also hate cats hur |
16:25.17 | Wormy | A dog wouldn't judge you if you had three arms, bolue skin and one eye |
16:25.18 | OluapPlayer | You're ded to me |
16:25.35 | Quark8 | Dogs hate me. |
16:25.57 | Wormy | A dog might judge you by how you act around them though. |
16:26.29 | Wormy | But that is a superior thing to judge on |
16:26.58 | Quark8 | Well, the first time I met a dog they jumped, I thought were going to attack and kicked it. My bad. |
16:27.02 | Wormy | is making up all this shit hur |
16:27.32 | Wormy | That is a serious mis-translation. |
16:27.50 | Wormy | But an understandable one for someone not brought up around them maybe |
16:28.35 | Quark8 | I was around six, and my dad hates seeing animals as pets, so I never had a dog. |
16:28.41 | Wormy | I have entire conversations with my dogs using body language, voice intensity, even some words from me |
16:28.53 | Monet_ | Wormy the dog whisperer |
16:29.00 | TekDroid | Lol |
16:29.10 | Wormy | Its hard to describe |
16:29.20 | Wormy | All dog owners will tell you it though |
16:29.35 | OluapPlayer | I had a dog once |
16:29.39 | Wormy | dogs are sentient imo |
16:29.41 | OluapPlayer | He was an asshole but I loved him |
16:30.43 | Wormy | Recent study shows that dogs are aware of their owners limitations. So if the light is off, the dog is more likely to steal the food |
16:30.58 | TekDroid | My aunt's dog almost died after eating a sock. I question that fact sometimes. |
16:31.23 | Wormy | well my dogs don't eat socks |
16:31.52 | Wormy | They are individuals also, I think some are smarter than others |
16:32.10 | Wormy | My whippet is somewhat thick in comparison to my border collie cross jack russel |
16:32.42 | Wormy | but then, he is less human-wise and more dog-wise, far more cunning |
16:32.59 | Wormy | I've been tricked by my dogs |
16:33.17 | OluapPlayer | Your dogs aren'y cunning, you're just dum hur |
16:33.21 | OluapPlayer | t* |
16:34.11 | Monet_ | Same result really |
16:34.16 | Wormy | They must be cunning to do it in the first place, but I don't doubt I was dumb for being tricked. The whippet once cried to be let outside so I got up from my chair, let him out, but then he shot through my legs and stole my seat. |
16:34.43 | Quark8 | Good dog. |
16:35.09 | Monet_ | Yep, that's a clever dog |
16:35.13 | Wormy | It was a strange feeling to be outsmarted by another animal |
16:37.12 | Wormy | I've noticed by more humanly-wise dog can tell the time, even without visual cues. For example, my grandmother gets up at 6 in the morning sometimes and walks him (typical old people) when I stay over. So now every 6 in the morning, annoyingly, he is trying to wake me up |
16:38.11 | Wormy | What cues could he picking up on if we are all asleep? Nothing my senses can detect |
16:38.15 | Hachiman | https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10502074_257698891094141_6686819081382991970_n.jpg |
16:38.31 | TekDroid | O.o |
16:38.55 | OluapPlayer | olol |
16:39.14 | Wormy | People say dogs don't have a concepot of future. That is bullshit. I taught my dog the meaning of "later", so when he wants a walk and I don't want to walk him yet I say "later". It works and word "No" doesn;t |
16:40.42 | Wormy | Hachi: About sums up the youtube community |
16:44.35 | Wormy | I don't think the flag should change, it could represent the landmass, not the human geography http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25205017 |
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16:45.39 | Wormy | most of those designs are an eye sore of colour choice and shape |
16:48.37 | Quark8 | I agree. |
16:48.44 | Hachiman | https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10377000_483294658481548_9094595707009114515_n.jpg |
16:49.42 | OluapPlayer | hur |
16:50.29 | Imperios_ | Wait, who is this guy |
16:50.47 | Imperios_ | I think I saw him somewhere... Bill Nye, right? |
16:50.57 | Hachiman | Jah |
16:51.02 | Hachiman | Bill Nye the Science Guy |
16:54.14 | Imperios_ | So basically your version of our Drozdov hur |
16:55.48 | Imperios_ | Actually no, that'd be David Attenborough |
17:00.38 | Imperios_ | Which American/British/European broadcaster narrated naturalist programs and had a cool voice? |
17:01.28 | Quark8 | Wormy? |
17:02.05 | Monet_ | Attenborough. |
17:02.09 | Monet_ | And he's British |
17:10.56 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Son_of_Gotla#The_Custodian.27s_Dreadnought new section |
17:11.14 | Hachiman | This took several days to do so reed pls |
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17:15.39 | Hachiman | Imperios_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Son_of_Gotla#The_Custodian.27s_Dreadnought reed pls |
17:15.48 | Imperios_ | Saw |
17:15.54 | Imperios_ | Tetrashepard hur |
17:16.06 | Imperios_ | Also I thought you wouldn't be RPing today |
17:16.32 | Hachiman | I wasn't but this needed finishing considering this was already started before today |
17:16.51 | Imperios_ | :< |
17:16.53 | Imperios_ | Okay |
17:17.41 | Imperios_ | You should have said you'd be finishing this one today, I'd have understood |
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17:23.09 | OluapPlayer | dumba |
17:24.24 | Technobliterator | ya dad |
17:27.36 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/GmsuY.jpg |
17:28.42 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Son_of_Gotla#The_Custodian.27s_Dreadnought reed u dum |
17:28.45 | Hachiman | And hai |
17:28.53 | Technobliterator | neva |
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17:30.24 | Hachiman | brb dinner |
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18:06.02 | Hachiman | bak |
18:06.08 | OluapPlayer | ew go away |
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18:28.36 | Technobliterator | wormy, you should probably rewrite your user page :o |
18:28.41 | Technobliterator | Hachiman, I will read now |
18:31.05 | Technobliterator | Kinrar - If I am correct, the ship will have an on board artificial intelligence that handles a network of other AIs, one of which maintains the security procedures. I have an idea... |
18:31.11 | Technobliterator | Omega Commander - copycat dumbos |
18:32.55 | Wormy | Wghats wrong with it lol |
18:34.07 | Wormy | Can anyone access the archives? If I click on it, I can't open it in Chrome or IE. Liquid had to unzip it, toopen the webpage. |
18:34.17 | Wormy | its weird |
18:34.33 | TekDroid | archives? |
18:34.47 | Wormy | http://infobot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ |
18:34.49 | Technobliterator | nothing's wrong with it |
18:34.49 | OluapPlayer | Yes you have to unzip them to access them now |
18:34.53 | Technobliterator | it's just outdated :o |
18:35.09 | Technobliterator | pfft |
18:35.09 | Wormy | Thats so bloody annoying, I wonder why |
18:35.10 | OluapPlayer | Which is kind of annoying |
18:35.12 | Technobliterator | who reads the archives anyway |
18:35.26 | OluapPlayer | Multiple people |
18:35.27 | OluapPlayer | Me included |
18:35.50 | Technobliterator | Voroch - Perhaps they try to make themselves as similar to their old enemies as possible while refusing to allow any other race to do the same. Sounds like extremely jealously if you ask me. |
18:35.51 | Wormy | I use the logs to save posts and information or look back at conversations I liked |
18:35.54 | Technobliterator | u jelly bro |
18:36.01 | Wormy | I also talk to Cyrannian via logs |
18:36.20 | Technobliterator | well, why? I don't see why anyone would read through tons of text just out of paranoia that someone might have said something about them |
18:36.35 | Wormy | I don't use the logs for that. |
18:36.51 | TekDroid | It's more to check stuff we did see and wanted to reread. |
18:36.53 | Technobliterator | then what for? |
18:37.10 | Wormy | I use it sometimes if I have timed out and want to see what I missed |
18:37.13 | Technobliterator | well, if there was something that should have been read, why was it not on the wiki? |
18:37.43 | TekDroid | Fiction plans that haven't been written, for instance |
18:37.47 | Wormy | Well, we don't need to write al;l our ideas on the wikis? Or conversations |
18:38.18 | Technobliterator | you don't, but to me if something wasn't important enough to be written on the wiki, then I probably didn't miss much |
18:38.23 | Technobliterator | but eh, I see what you mean |
18:38.35 | OluapPlayer | stop complainin and finish readin |
18:38.44 | Technobliterator | shup ya moms dum |
18:41.42 | Technobliterator | Tetra - Oh... S-Sorry for, uhh, waking you... Y-You can go back to sleep now. |
18:41.44 | Technobliterator | lmfao |
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18:43.52 | Technobliterator | story is likable as usual |
18:44.03 | Technobliterator | same complaint as always |
18:44.09 | DrodoEmpire | Hey,, everyone |
18:44.13 | DrodoEmpire | *, |
18:44.38 | Technobliterator | this section seemed kind of interesting, it felt like it was different to the others in that story in a way but it was a good change of pace |
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18:56.18 | Wormy | Virgin Galactic ought to offer the leader of the Flat Earth Society a free trip to space. |
18:57.26 | Wormy | Maybe there is a reason why this has happened. |
18:57.42 | Wormy | goes to the corner |
18:57.46 | Monet_ | He'd probably come up with some BS explaination. |
18:57.51 | TekDroid | ^ |
18:57.54 | Monet_ | Or just assume he's being lied to |
18:58.25 | TekDroid | Probably make up some wierd explanation about light pending. |
18:58.55 | Monet_ | "That's not the Earth outside the plane window yo're trying to trick me with lies and deceit!" |
18:59.06 | TekDroid | or that. |
18:59.56 | Hachiman | Hmm what would you call a society where a Prime Minister who is diplomatically elected is present but also a monarchial figure? |
19:00.01 | Wormy | That is true, direct experience is not a demarcation for truth. In a weird way he actually right. Buit theoretically, his theories will be far from the truth |
19:00.19 | Monet_ | Hachiman: You mean like the UK? |
19:00.23 | Hachiman | Jah |
19:00.29 | Monet_ | Constitutional Monarchy |
19:02.01 | Hachiman | rite |
19:02.37 | Monet_ | Many nations have two "leaders"; the head of state and the head of government. |
19:03.05 | Monet_ | Monarch = head of state, prime minister = head of government. |
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19:05.00 | AdmiralPanda | hai all |
19:05.15 | TekDroid | Hello |
19:05.59 | OluapPlayer | pondo |
19:06.48 | Wormy | Hachiman: Khan's theme (from Star Trek III) goes with the Yamato http://youtu.be/sKtieXEBLcE?t=12s |
19:06.54 | Monet_ | Wormy: I think I went on a rant the other day about how the whole "the Earth is flat" thing might have been popularised |
19:08.19 | Wormy | I saw it but just skimmed over |
19:09.05 | Wormy | I think a lot of Flat Earthers aren't serious about it, but creating the conversation. Sir Patrick Moore joined them for example |
19:09.32 | Monet_ | Really? After all his time as an astronomer? |
19:09.39 | Technobliterator | Wormy, there was a creationist who denied the existence of the moon |
19:09.41 | Technobliterator | -__- |
19:09.55 | Technobliterator | and said not to believe in science because Satan is deceiving us |
19:09.58 | Wormy | He joined them as a joke |
19:10.18 | Monet_ | Okay I can see the humour in that |
19:10.39 | Wormy | Thats not as bad as David Icke saying the Moon was a hollow spaceship designed to project illusions on the Earth and control our minds! |
19:10.44 | AdmiralPanda | Techno: And those people need to be taken round back and shot :P |
19:11.09 | Technobliterator | ikr |
19:11.10 | Monet_ | Technobliterator: The creationists who believe science is inherently evil are a special kind of bigot. |
19:11.18 | Technobliterator | yeah |
19:11.22 | Monet_ | Especially if he's using the internet ot talk to you |
19:11.28 | Technobliterator | precisely |
19:11.35 | Technobliterator | rejecting science while enjoying the fruits of science |
19:12.35 | Monet_ | I met one guy online who believed the only "good science" is stuff that's been secretly drip-fed to us by [insert supreme being here] |
19:13.42 | Monet_ | People who see science as evil is one thing, but then there are people who think the only progress humans can make isn't of or own volition - those peope annoy me. |
19:15.02 | AdmiralPanda | oh btw guys, I have found one of the best (and proven) methods of getting dumb christians to shut up |
19:15.32 | Monet_ | I think you've mentioned it haven't you? |
19:15.54 | AdmiralPanda | Ask them if they believe that they should follow God's will, then ask them if the world was created according to God's will, and when they answer yes to both, say "Well then, it's God's will that I don't believe in him, so leave me alone." |
19:16.24 | Monet_ | So it works |
19:16.48 | Monet_ | Even though it sounds like some may interpret it as "I cannot be saved" |
19:17.44 | AdmiralPanda | some may, but you just counter that with "I'm clearly not meant to be saved, and this is God testing you." |
19:17.59 | Imperios_ | Hi |
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19:18.47 | Wormy | I just say something similar, that it is not just choice but the fact I feel incapable of a religious mindset |
19:19.04 | Wormy | Which I do, I can't understand blind faith |
19:19.26 | Wormy | My mind demands explanation for everything |
19:19.36 | Tek0516Droid | Same. |
19:20.03 | Monet_ | I was thinking earlier, faiths like Hinduism, Shinto and Buddhism could be more easily accommodating to aliens than Christianity or Judaism. |
19:20.48 | Wormy | If I do argue with creationists I use a two-pronged attack, geology (of which I'm a student of) and epistemology |
19:21.03 | Monet_ | Since Hindu reincarnation states that oen could be reincarnated as anything depending on your actions in life, what's to say peope laren't being reincarnated two thousand light-years away on another planet? |
19:21.47 | AdmiralPanda | That would explain all the new souls |
19:21.54 | Wormy | I will argue about fallibalism, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explanatory_power, the scientific method and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Rationalism |
19:22.14 | Wormy | to get to the flaws of creationist ideology |
19:24.00 | Monet_ | The main issue with aliens adopting Christianity or Judaism is it's strongly humanocentric - It is quite solidly stated that humans were made in god's image and Jews are "God's chosen people"....ALiens are a bit of an outsider factor |
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19:24.48 | Wormy | I'm teaching myself propositional calculus who knows maybe I'll use logic as well to tie up their tongues and silence them. |
19:24.51 | Monet_ | The best chance of conversion involves a massive paradigm shift in dogma to include aliens somehow |
19:26.06 | Monet_ | Idunno something like "God made the Earth in seven days, then he repeated these actions over the surface of Balzopoxis" |
19:26.29 | AdmiralPanda | that or "God made the universe in seven days" |
19:27.06 | Monet_ | That...might work with a little mroe change |
19:27.18 | Monet_ | Probably more like "God made the universe in several seconds" |
19:27.21 | AdmiralPanda | that said, I think any alien culture we meet will either A) have their own religion, B) have transcended religion, or C) find religion so alien a concept that they don't care |
19:28.12 | Monet_ | I'm a subscriber to the idea that the concept of religion may be universal. |
19:28.21 | Wormy | In Exultant (Xeelee Sequence), a human and a Silver Ghost debate this. The human tries to argue the Silver Ghosts' religion does eventually point to a creator, but the Silver Ghost doesn't agree. |
19:28.53 | Monet_ | I remember reading in the New Scientist of chimps climbing to the tops of trees during thunderstorms and waving branches and their arms about. |
19:29.35 | Monet_ | Perhap some kind of ritual to make the loud noises stop? |
19:29.38 | Wormy | The Silver Ghosts believe the the flaws of the universe are to be corrected, and that is why they build tech that seems to push the laws of nature to their limits |
19:29.42 | Imperios_ | I doubt that someone would ever trascend religion |
19:30.03 | Imperios_ | we cannot know everything |
19:30.05 | Monet_ | Imperios_: Agreed. Look at football and celebrity obsessions. |
19:30.08 | Imperios_ | Ergo we try to make guesses |
19:30.18 | Imperios_ | Also it is in our nature to revere things |
19:30.26 | Monet_ | Exactly! |
19:30.34 | Hachiman | Our nature, but not an alien's |
19:30.59 | Monet_ | Well as I indicated its possible chimps do this kind of stuff too. |
19:31.20 | Wormy | For B to occur the society would have to be regressive (with no creactivity or criticism), mono-minded (with no arguments or guessing people) |
19:32.24 | Wormy | I think we should take mystical experiences, altered states and spirituality very seriously when studying the mind. It is a function of our minds afterall. |
19:33.20 | Monet_ | Hachiman: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13860-six-uniquely-human-traits-now-found-in-animals.html?full=true |
19:34.24 | Wormy | In Orions Arm there are interesting religions, "even the greatest of the AIs are seen to be working to purposes and goals that go beyond even their nature." http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-topic/45bce4b65a4ce |
19:35.20 | Monet_ | One of the themes I had planned to include in that novel I have yet to finish is religious interaction. |
19:35.54 | Wormy | That psychological aspect might be shared by other sentients. I'm not sure if it universal to all but that one about chimps implies it is to creatures which share features and Earth's environments with humans |
19:36.12 | Wormy | Its like the discussion on alien mathematics |
19:36.35 | Wormy | it could vary a great deal though, in species that do revere something beyond them |
19:37.39 | Wormy | There might be alien concepts that can't be translated |
19:38.05 | Monet_ | It has become something of a nexpectation that in utopian science fiction works, people have left religion (specifically Abrahamic beliefs) behind them. |
19:38.51 | Wormy | Yeah, sci-fi is very idealist really, from author to author |
19:39.33 | Wormy | The first utopian stories I think were written by religious people however |
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19:39.45 | DrodoEmpire | Back. |
19:39.49 | Wormy | maybe it is an anarchy of that |
19:39.51 | Wormy | hi |
19:40.50 | Monet_ | I think there's indication that the UFP is a strongly atheist society. |
19:41.47 | Wormy | Jesus the 'Borg http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4681aafd61eee |
19:42.34 | Monet_ | I don't remember much about the original series but Its just a random guess that Kirk being born in Iowa, USA and McCoy being from the deep south might exlain any nascant spirituality. |
19:43.14 | Monet_ | It was the Cold War after all, the period where "one nation under God" was added to the US oath of alliegence. |
19:43.45 | Wormy | Christianity still persists 10,000 AD http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4625929c7a512 |
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19:48.07 | Wormy | hi |
19:48.14 | Tybusen | Hello |
19:48.17 | Monet_ | Hi |
19:49.29 | Tybusen | Yesterday someone must have stolen two of my Fence Gates and let all of my livestock loose, because that's what I found yesterday when I logged on to the MC server |
19:50.08 | Imperios_ | Tybusen: Erm... oops, I was just logging in and really confused and there were zombies everywhere and I tried to hide so |
19:50.10 | Imperios_ | Aw |
19:50.11 | Imperios_ | Sorry :< |
19:50.44 | Imperios_ | If you want I can help you to get your livestock back |
19:50.46 | Tybusen | open the gate u dum don't break it :U |
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19:50.58 | Tybusen | Don't worry, I already got them back and replaced the gates |
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19:51.50 | drom | http://imgur.com/gallery/aVXSKTj |
19:54.46 | Wormy | "There is a problem here: The sun is very hot." "Then just go at night, stupid." |
19:57.07 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/KNfKR6i.png |
19:57.36 | drom | (the football team in the picture is the Brazil's team for this year's VM) |
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19:58.14 | Sporeraptor | hi |
20:03.39 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
20:06.00 | drom | hey |
20:06.03 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/NrJku9x.jpg |
20:17.29 | Jepardi | http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/ay5OPoq_460s.jpg |
20:18.58 | Hachiman | -Me to OluapPlayer |
20:19.03 | Wormy | Hachiman: Here is my quotes for when the page is done. Including a klingon-esque/Klingon character http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Sig#Yamato_Stellar_Empire_.28or_Yamato_Intersolar_Commune.29 |
20:19.24 | Wormy | cuz Klingon vs Samurai hur |
20:19.31 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: ;A; |
20:20.22 | Hachiman | Wormy: Nice, thanks |
20:22.32 | Monet_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Monet47/Minecraft I have pictures |
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20:27.22 | Sporeraptor | hi |
20:27.23 | Monet_ | Hi |
20:27.43 | Monet_ | ALso can anyone suggest where I could put this other than as a subesection of my user profile |
20:28.54 | AdmiralPanda | Th-that was our house ;-; |
20:29.20 | Wormy | I think out-of-wiki-but-community projects have always been user subpages |
20:29.24 | OluapPlayer | haus ded |
20:29.28 | AdmiralPanda | also, enough with the fire jokes |
20:29.39 | OluapPlayer | but dey're hot |
20:29.57 | AdmiralPanda | I built the house out in the ocean because I wasn't sure the lake would be big enough, not to keep fire out |
20:30.20 | Monet_ | Yeah I'll stop reminding you from now on |
20:30.34 | AdmiralPanda | and I have the cobblestone in storage because once I revamp the animal farm I'm going to turn the roof into stone brick |
20:31.23 | AdmiralPanda | ranting done |
20:31.32 | AdmiralPanda | the overabundant fire jokes set me off a bit |
20:32.26 | Hachiman | Ohgod what happened |
20:32.36 | Monet_ | Yeah good point, it was only an accident |
20:32.42 | OluapPlayer | http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140711203226/spore/images/c/ca/Satamaxillus.png have a T-rex to cheer you up |
20:32.45 | AdmiralPanda | I built a device that feeds cows into a lava blade |
20:32.59 | AdmiralPanda | and somehow it set the house on fire |
20:33.09 | AdmiralPanda | since then that seems to be the only thing people talk about |
20:33.24 | Hachiman | Sounds like a hot topic |
20:33.29 | AdmiralPanda | oh fuck off |
20:33.53 | AdmiralPanda | I literally just told you I'm sick of the fucking fire jokes |
20:33.54 | Monet_ | Yeah that was overdoing it |
20:33.58 | drom | my sides |
20:38.24 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/HvvdU.jpg |
20:39.13 | Tybusen | Monet_: If you haven't been to the Nether lately, I built a small fort there |
20:39.30 | AdmiralPanda | anyone who wants to get anything from the burned out wreck should do so immediately, it won't be there for long |
20:40.21 | Monet_ | Tybusen: I have yet to visit the Nether |
20:41.11 | Tybusen | I built a safehouse so that you can hide from the Ghasts, and it's got secure access to some Quartz veins |
20:42.42 | drom | Whatcha talking about? Minecraft? |
20:42.51 | Monet_ | drom: Yeah |
20:43.05 | Monet_ | Tybusen: THat's hood. I've got a new house project pland and I may need some quartz |
20:47.32 | Tybusen | Shit. |
20:47.40 | Tybusen | There's Ghasts surrounding the portal. |
20:49.03 | Tybusen | The whole platform is on fire. |
20:49.54 | Monet_ | It wasn't designed ot look like Hell for nothing |
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20:52.01 | Sporeraptor | hi |
20:56.01 | Wormy | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Fjord_League_of_Northern_Europe#Neovikings |
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21:02.31 | Angrybirds | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Plazithian_Seismomachy/Year_One#The_Plan_Revealed |
21:02.35 | Angrybirds | mt |
21:03.36 | Hachiman | Angrybirds: Would you mind if I borrowed some of the page layout from the France page? |
21:04.03 | Angrybirds | Not all all! Use what you like. What are you thinking of borrowing? |
21:05.01 | Hachiman | The history layout seems like a good way of organizing Yamato's history accordingly |
21:05.50 | Jepardi | http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/ay5gp0W_460s.jpg |
21:06.14 | Sporeraptor | Nice part, however the Neraida were really careless with these infomrations. |
21:06.23 | Angrybirds | ^ I thought that too. |
21:07.09 | Angrybirds | Hachiman : Hm, alright. Do you want Yamato and France to have any sort of relationship / common events / projects in the Milky Way or even in their colonies? |
21:07.31 | Hachiman | I'll have to have a think about that |
21:08.04 | Angrybirds | Alright. And if you're picking back up Yamato, you have a say in how the OL is run and can participate in its stories, like the Seisomachy, where it's going to get involved. |
21:08.51 | Angrybirds | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AOrion_League |
21:09.21 | Angrybirds | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AThe_Clanden/Sandbox#The_Orion_League_Responds << This will go up soon in the Seisomachy, if you want to add anything about Yamato involvement, or, conversely, about their abstention. |
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21:23.48 | drom | Very well. |
21:24.43 | Hachiman | Angrybirds: Would it be safe to say that France hired Japanese PMCs during their civil war in the 21st century? |
21:28.52 | Angrybirds | They could have to supplement their armed forces who might have been shaky at the time, especially given the fact that they'd be fighting against French extremists. |
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21:29.32 | Angrybirds | Though this would have been very limited as far as the government is concerned. The more ambitious rebel cells, on the other hand, are another story. |
21:31.04 | Hachiman | Well Japan also would have been in a state of civil war at around the same time and while nationalist groups fought for political dominance on their home turf, many Japanese groups migrated overseas to work in or found PMCs so that they could get away from the chaos in their homeland and the consistent earthquakes, as well as fight for the continental powers they supported |
21:33.27 | Angrybirds | Understood. I've done a little research, and it seems it's actually illegal for the French government to hire mercenaries, though a BUNCH of private institutions, businesses, corporations, even private schools would probably hire PMC's in order to defend themselves during the unrest. |
21:35.39 | Angrybirds | Hachiman ^ |
21:35.48 | Hachiman | rite gotcha |
21:38.02 | TekDroid | What did I miss? |
21:39.47 | DrodoEmpire | test |
21:41.22 | TekDroid | you passed DrodoEmpire |
21:49.51 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Yamato_Intersolar_Commune How does this look so far? |
21:51.51 | Sporeraptor | What do you think ? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Cyrannian_War/Year_One/Dealing_with_the_Devil#Ambassador.27s_Arrival |
21:53.38 | Angrybirds | Hachiman : It needs a flag. xD |
21:53.47 | Hachiman | Yeah I know ;-; |
21:54.09 | Sporeraptor | Hachiman: Looks very good so far, I am very interested in the rest of the history |
21:54.17 | Angrybirds | *is reading* |
21:54.25 | Wormy | sweet dreams my lovelies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcVh-tXfwZw |
21:54.29 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: I'm reading right now, and it looks nice |
21:59.32 | Angrybirds | Finished reading. I really liked the detail and the PMC idea and how it was implemented. |
22:00.07 | Angrybirds | Also, I like the format. ;) |
22:00.47 | Hachiman | huehue |
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22:05.55 | AdmiralPanda | alright, that's enough minecraft progress for now, I'm going to take a walk around the local markets then come back and do some more |
22:06.56 | Wormy | Superb sections Hachi. Few have added so much detail to the real history of their nations before World War 3 |
22:08.30 | Hachiman | I wonder if whaling became a significant problem again once the OPO formed due to needing to jump start the economy again, and what better way to do that then farm and harvest whale and dolphin produce |
22:09.33 | drom | Alright, I added a new plan to my list of ideas (blog post). |
22:09.59 | Angrybirds | drom: Link? |
22:10.12 | drom | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Dromlexer/My_Plans |
22:10.33 | drom | The new plan can be found at the bottom of "stories" list. |
22:11.12 | drom | Alright. I'll be unavailable until tomorrow. See ya. |
22:12.30 | Sporeraptor | bye |
22:13.07 | Angrybirds | Hachiman : I have a feeling the Orion League will take questionable stances during the Seisomachy. I'll be interested to see where Yamato stands, especially given their membership to the ATR. It's even -possible-, unlikely, but -possible- that the two might come into conflict. |
22:14.41 | Hachiman | Ooh? How so? |
22:15.04 | Angrybirds | That, is my secret. ;) |
22:15.25 | Wormy | I didn't know Japan still had a Royal Family http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/10545850/Japans-royal-family-pose-for-unusual-New-Year-photo.html |
22:16.26 | Hachiman | Japan's a constitutional monarchy like Britain |
22:17.03 | Angrybirds | Yeah, America didn't get rid of them when they wrote their constitution. |
22:19.50 | Wormy | The article states they are quite secretive and rarely seen by the public |
22:21.11 | Wormy | The British Royals are always on the face of events http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kate+Middleton+Le+Tour+de+France+2014+Stage+aqq5LIxjMdgl.jpg |
22:22.41 | Angrybirds | Hachiman: "Everywhere I lookââin every corner of the GigaquadrantââI see the same signs: hard times are ahead of us. Alliances are beginning to fracture, old rivalries are beginning to resurface, and the great tectonic plates that make up the political landscape of the universe are shifting. We might, in the near future, be forced by circumstance to turn on an ally or to wage war against someone we never would have thoug |
22:22.43 | Monet_ | Well yeah, the Royal Family brings in something like £500 million a year from tourism |
22:23.02 | Angrybirds | ^ *hint hint* said by France's PM in a section. |
22:23.33 | Hachiman | So France may end up attacking the main guys who protect humanity from aliens hur |
22:23.47 | Hachiman | And promote human interests |
22:24.41 | Angrybirds | Depends on the circumstances, and I wouldn't say that the ATR are the -main- guys. Let's not forget the Orion League, composed of a good twenty human or near-human states. xD |
22:25.20 | Hachiman | I meant Yamato hur |
22:26.09 | Monet_ | brb |
22:26.14 | Wormy | Even the Fjord League feel safe with the Yamato around |
22:26.33 | Angrybirds | Oh. Well, it depends on where they stand in the greater scheme of things. We're speaking hypothetically and with no real context, but France would definitely want Yamato on its side. |
22:27.30 | Angrybirds | as a general rule. I'm not saying that France would suddenly turn on humanity for no reason. |
22:28.49 | Wormy | Also, I'll contest that. The ATR has many near-human factions (as part of the Kindred Coalition), some spacefaring long before the Earthers. It has alien members and many alien allies, and intergalactic connections. It is an active member (and cofounder) of The Civilisation |
22:29.15 | Hachiman | Yamato Stellar Empire - c |
22:29.23 | Hachiman | Woops not Stellar Empire |
22:29.31 | Hachiman | Yamato Intersolar Commune - c |
22:29.46 | Wormy | I think they are about equal, but both have rooted themselves into the Gigaquadrant in different ways. |
22:30.34 | Wormy | OL might be the main guys for Terran humans, the inheritors of Earth, etc. |
22:31.22 | Angrybirds | Wormy : Yeah, I didn't mean to devalue the ATR. I also see them as roughly equal. |
22:33.11 | Wormy | I see, I read it wrong |
22:34.11 | Wormy | Nations like the Fjord, Yamato and Kindred probably have their fingers in both pies it seems |
22:35.57 | Hachiman | Funny because despite being pro-human the Yamato are part of an organization co-founded by aliens |
22:36.09 | Hachiman | Perhaps they did it to promote humans among the galactic community |
22:36.20 | Angrybirds | Which would be very interesting to see where their loyalties lie if they had to choose. |
22:37.04 | Hachiman | Could lead to more DCP-Yamato conflicts maybe :p |
22:38.00 | Wormy | Depends what the humans are doing. The DCP looks upon humanity more favourably, at least those unifying |
22:38.39 | Wormy | But still for the most part don't like humans a great deal but not enough to destroy them |
22:39.38 | Wormy | Except these (remember them?) http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Halloway |
22:39.53 | Wormy | The DCP is allergic to all of Irskaads fiction lol |
22:41.04 | Wormy | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Halloway#First_massacre |
22:42.12 | Wormy | Actually |
22:42.19 | Wormy | Since they are never coming back |
22:42.45 | Wormy | I'll assume they were wiped out by the massacre or more likely, absorbed by the DCP |
22:59.02 | Hachiman | I might give the Yamato some ships and vessels like the Spline/voidhawks |
23:01.44 | Angrybirds | Oooh. Would Yamato put some of their older stuff on the Arms market, or would they just keep it to themselves? |
23:01.45 | AdmiralPanda | did I miss anything server-related while I was away? |
23:01.56 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: Nope |
23:02.02 | Hachiman | Angrybirds: I imagine they would yes |
23:02.05 | AdmiralPanda | rite, back to my project |
23:02.09 | Hachiman | That is, put it on market |
23:02.20 | AdmiralPanda | anyone feel like pretending to be Leonidas on some cows? |
23:02.35 | Hachiman | I don't have MC so no unfortunately :p |
23:02.40 | Angrybirds | Hachiman : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AArms_Market For your convenience. |
23:02.53 | AdmiralPanda | huh, I thought you did |
23:03.19 | Hachiman | Nope |
23:03.31 | AdmiralPanda | oh also, you guys in britain have fudge right? |
23:03.37 | Hachiman | Jah of course |
23:03.52 | AdmiralPanda | there was a stall at the new market near my house that had 52 flavours of fudge |
23:04.03 | Hachiman | ohgod |
23:04.12 | AdmiralPanda | I may have squee'd a little |
23:04.28 | AdmiralPanda | and then bought a sampler pack of ten :P |
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23:18.19 | Wormy | Made the Earth picture more verdant http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Earth_our_home.png |
23:18.21 | Wormy | Hi |
23:18.47 | Wormy | Using After Effects I could probably add clouds but meh |
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23:22.28 | Hachiman | Hai you both |
23:22.40 | Monet_ | Hello. |
23:22.45 | OluapPlayer | honk |
23:23.07 | Monet_ | Thinking about it, I think I may have a natural degree of snark in myself. |
23:23.15 | Hachiman | You don't say hur |
23:23.33 | Monet_ | Is it that bad? |
23:24.29 | Liquid_Ink | No, it's just not so hard to notice |
23:25.33 | Monet_ | My favourite comedians include Frankie Boyle, Charlie Brooker, Phil Mitchell, Russell Howard and just now I was watching a cene from Mock the Week where everyone was making jokes exaggerating about Dara O'brian's larger-than normal head. |
23:25.42 | Hachiman | olol |
23:25.55 | AdmiralPanda | snark is one of the five essential food groups |
23:28.01 | Monet_ | One of the jokes that got me larughing hardest was "its so big it has its own gravitational pull, look it's drawn in a planet behind you!". This http://www.etnow.com/images/general/news/large/100665002_6986.jpg is the set for Mock the Week and Dara sits in the chair under the K. |
23:31.27 | Monet_ | One of my all-time favourite Frankie Boyle jokes is about the London 2012 olympic bid. |
23:31.50 | Monet_ | "For fity million we could ahve carved "F*** off Germany" ont othe moon" |
23:31.57 | Wormy | This http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Mitchell ? |
23:32.13 | Monet_ | I meant *david* mitchell, sorry. |
23:32.19 | Monet_ | Argh |
23:33.26 | Hachiman | You know since the Yamato have Andromedan colonies I don't imagine it'd be too strange for the Yamato and the Zazane to have at least some contact |
23:33.42 | Hachiman | Which means there could be a small populace of Zazane samurai :p |
23:34.16 | Wormy | cool |
23:34.29 | Monet_ | I thought Emperor Yamato was an extreme speicist? |
23:34.41 | Hachiman | I'm giving the Yamato some rewrites |
23:34.50 | Hachiman | They're pro-human but not so extremist anymore |
23:35.16 | OluapPlayer | Zazane are two double weeaboos |
23:35.21 | OluapPlayer | are now* |
23:35.52 | Wormy | Hachi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfypScp8K9o |
23:37.18 | Hachiman | I'm wondering what to call Yamato's living ships, I'm thinking something like Kabutotestu (trans: iron helmet), Kishuhoshi (trans: star rider) or just outright Samurai :p |
23:38.01 | Monet_ | "star rider" sounds nice |
23:38.34 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
23:39.09 | Monet_ | Actually this makes me curious. In terms of upbringing what makes Samurai different from knights? |
23:39.42 | OluapPlayer | bored |
23:40.05 | Monet_ | What is required to become a samurai and how does one be eligable? |
23:40.13 | AdmiralPanda | same basic principle |
23:40.23 | AdmiralPanda | noble families and whatnot |
23:40.26 | Hachiman | Aye |
23:40.45 | Hachiman | Any old mook could be a soldier, but it takes a special to be a Samurai |
23:41.16 | Monet_ | Be from a noble family, get accepted as a squire, train hard, study etc. |
23:41.31 | Monet_ | Or whatever the Japanese equivilent of squire would be |
23:41.40 | Hachiman | Schoolgirl hur |
23:41.51 | AdmiralPanda | SENPAIIII |
23:42.26 | AdmiralPanda | oh, this from my friend: "If you ever wanted a hyper-effective army of bullet sponges, just tell all the otakus that the american government wants to destroy all anime |
23:42.35 | Hachiman | olol |
23:43.44 | Monet_ | Main reason I'm aksing is because my understanding of knight training is that training goes from childhood, though your teenage years and into adulthood. |
23:44.05 | Wormy | This is just wrong and sad http://forum.slowtwitch.com/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Lavender_Room_F4/Is_it_Safe_to_Eat_Wild_Bird_Eggs_I_Found_in_a_Nest_Outside_P2390824/ |
23:44.21 | AdmiralPanda | it was usually more lessons early, and once you get to your teens then you start sword practice |
23:44.34 | Monet_ | Yeah |
23:46.20 | Monet_ | I wonder how well-adjusted Zazane would be to that kind of lifestyle. |
23:46.31 | Monet_ | Which, admittedly, is very similar to Inquisitor training |
23:46.55 | Monet_ | ...and possibly blood drago ntraining but that also has a healthy mix of P.E. mixed in |
23:48.11 | Hachiman | Probably quite well |
23:50.56 | Monet_ | If I recall, Blood Dragon cadets are given focus-lessons in history, martial theory, anatomy, first aid and sociology. |
23:51.08 | Monet_ | Alongside other more common educational subjects |
23:52.09 | Angrybirds | I think I've written somewhere that France has some of the humanity' best officer's universities |
23:52.18 | Angrybirds | humanity's* |
23:52.32 | DrodoEmpire | *Officers' |
23:52.34 | DrodoEmpire | >:3 |
23:52.37 | Angrybirds | My bad. |
23:52.42 | DrodoEmpire | Its fine. |
23:52.45 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
23:53.43 | Angrybirds | Ranging from traditional stone-building and large-classroom style universities teaching Sun Tzu and just about everything else to educational facilities greatly facilitated and personalized by technology and artificial intelligence. |
23:54.36 | Hachiman | Yamato have some of the best materials out of the human nations because grorious nippon steer forded 1000 times |
23:55.15 | OluapPlayer | >no gorillon |
23:55.17 | OluapPlayer | shamefur dispray |
23:55.40 | Monet_ | Folding that many times gives you shitty steel though. |
23:55.57 | OluapPlayer | It rustles jimmies really well tho |
23:55.59 | Angrybirds | But what seems to characterize French military education is a thorough understanding of the conduct of warfare in all of its forms, including geopolitical, philosophical, and traditional aspects and especially the theoretical relationship between the military and the state. Numerous books by DeGaulle are taught on that last subject. |
23:56.55 | Angrybirds | All of that giving rise to a staff of unrivaled quality: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AMarshal_of_France |
23:58.02 | Monet_ | And it certianly shows |
23:58.22 | Hachiman | Heh I like musing on the thought that the Yamato, while capable of actually achieving it with their technology, have forbidden undergoing procedures to attain immortality |
23:58.40 | Hachiman | Longevity is fine but I imagine that Yamato citizens and politicians would view death as a necessary process |
23:59.49 | Monet_ | ANd then we have the Emperor himself who can go "fuck the rules" because he is a grorious reader |