IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140711

00:02.00Wormy_fictionThank you
00:03.23Wormy_fictionMight write another section tonight.  Then me, you and Tybusen ought to find some time to talk about finishing the episode with the Imperial's discovery
00:03.40Cyrannianaye
00:08.17Cyrannianhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140711000736/spore/images/3/30/AdmiralReynolds.png http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140711000737/spore/images/2/21/PrestonYates.png http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140711000737/spore/images/4/4d/Morin_Ehtar.png - Three new characters.
00:16.00Liquid_InkCool
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00:38.10DrodoEmpireBack. :P
00:43.08Wormy_fictionhi
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03:01.38OfficerJackalHey!
03:01.49OfficerJackalWow, this channel is dead right now, so few people! XD
03:04.47TekDroidHello
03:13.28DrodoEmpiretest
03:13.46TekDroidHow is it that every time I visit my grandparents their laptop is loaded with spam again...
03:13.49TekDroidHey DrodoEmpire
03:13.57DrodoEmpireHey
03:15.26OfficerJackalTekDroid: Them toolbars are handy, one of these days you'd wish you had em!
03:17.40TekDroidLast time I'd installed some adblockers.
03:18.02TekDroidThe time before that I'd ckeared a few hundred viruses.
03:18.56OfficerJackalJebus.
03:19.05OfficerJackalA few hundread?
03:19.08OfficerJackalHundred*
03:20.04TekDroid497 threats on their laptop and 610 on their desktop.
03:22.51TekDroidI'm going to get started on the Frontier 1 page. I had a really awesome plan with it I wanted to do.
03:24.12TekDroidWell more a small GC plot event involving it.
03:24.13OfficerJackalCool. :)
03:26.56TekDroidBasically it involves the station and its KSA/OL fleet doing an epic "Hold the Line" scenario against GEC invaders at some point in the war, while allied fleets rush to support.
03:29.13OfficerJackalOh man, they are going to war against the GEC?
03:29.40OfficerJackalNeed to change browsers, BRB.
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04:13.31TekDroid.
04:13.35TekDroidwhoops
04:13.41TekDroidAnd hello
04:15.32Knight_AlienHi
04:18.42Knight_AlienSo are you or Officer working on anything?
04:19.25TekDroidI'm creating the page for a station that's supposed to play a big role soon.
04:20.02Knight_AlienStation Halcyon?
04:21.52TekDroidNo, this one is called Frontier 1.
04:25.53TekDroidIt's a station to defend a Katarian wormhole.
04:35.03TekDroidI should probably work on the TekNet page tomorrow. It does cover a central aspect of my fiction and a major character, after all.
04:35.21TekDroidAlright, goodnight.
04:39.55Knight_Alien:( im all alone.....
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07:39.22Liquid_InkHello
07:43.44GhelaeHello.
07:51.21Liquid_InkHow are you?
07:54.19GhelaeI'm okay; how about you?
07:57.09Liquid_InkTerrible. A game I enjoyed from childhood is unmanageably laggy on my computer.
07:57.18Liquid_InkOther than that... bleehck
07:58.58GhelaeThat's strange. You might expect old games to not work on new computers, but not work more slowly.
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08:49.24HachimanHai
08:55.11GhelHello.
08:56.54Liquid_InkHello
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09:00.03JepardiHi
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09:43.16Hachimanhai
09:43.22OluapPlayerhai
09:46.56HachimanI'll need to talk to Wormy about this book I'm reading, it features bioships that possess genetically-inherited sapience software which communicate to their crews and capatins through a form of telepathy
09:47.36Hachiman*captains
09:49.15AdmiralPandahai oluap
09:52.10HachimanThese "voidhawks" are 'born' when elderly voidhawks race through the rings and atmosphere of Saturn, which is where all voidhawks go to die, and release 'eggs' that are raised by other voidhawks within the rings, with these eggs containing zygotes donated by the captains of the parent voidhawk
09:52.40HachimanSo the eggs will form into voidhawks and inside these voidhawks, human infants will grow
09:53.26OluapPlayerew books
09:54.28HachimanThese infants later become the designated captains of the voidhawks that they were formed inside and maintain a psychic connection to their voidhawk for all of their lives until the voidhawk grows old and goes to Saturn to die, with voidhawks possessing a shorter lifespan than humans in the book, who can live for more than 200 years
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10:39.29OluapPlayerdumba
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11:00.25GhelHello.
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11:02.33HachimanHai
11:05.17ImpyDroidgoddamn glitchy irc hyr
11:05.20ImpyDroidlemme relog
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11:31.37Wormyhi
11:31.59HachimanHai
11:33.23HachimanWormy: I was reading "The Reality Dysfunction" and it just so happens to contain circular bioships that possess genetically-inherited sapience software, meaning they're practically alive, and can communicate to their crew and captain through a form of technological telepathy.
11:33.26GhelHello.
11:34.20WormyI based Cephalodian suffering/love philosophy http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Station_Halcyon/Series_2/Preview#Part_2 on John C Lilly's altered states scale  http://www.whale.to/b/states.html
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11:34.27Wormyhi
11:34.30Imperios_Finally, it works
11:34.32Imperios_Hello
11:34.58HachimanVoidhawks are largely biological anyway, with polyp protecting their vulnerable insides while a human habitability torus and underslung weaponry and cargo storage are attached to its top and bottom respectively
11:35.03WormyHachi:  I do hope we have such technology one day
11:36.09HachimanThese voidhawks are 'born' when elderly voidhawks race through the rings and atmosphere of Saturn, which is where all voidhawks go to die, and release 'eggs' that are raised by other voidhawks within the rings, with these eggs containing zygotes donated by the captains of the parent voidhawk
11:36.24HachimanThese infants later become the designated captains of the voidhawks that they were formed inside and maintain a psychic connection to their voidhawk for all of their lives until the voidhawk grows old and goes to Saturn to die, with voidhawks possessing a shorter lifespan than humans in the book, who can live for more than 200 years
11:38.56WormyThey remind me of the Spline, in the Xeelee Sequence.  Huge whale-like organisms who went to space and rented their bodies to other sentients.
11:39.28HachimanAye I like the Spline
11:39.30Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10525581_10152475523346840_2455783745376854158_n.jpg
11:42.01Wormyfugly tings http://s3.amazonaws.com/bestsfbooks/c43b95b717b5890ebd3091b891eecde2.jpg
11:42.37Wormyso truer
11:43.03HachimanThat reminds me of the damned moon from Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
11:43.37Hachimanhttp://www.rhysy.net/Baxter/galleries/Spline%20-%20Schematic.jpg I prefer this idea for the Spline myself
11:44.12OluapPlayerThat moon is locked in an expression of [crashing intensifies]
11:44.30OluapPlayerI wonder how no one in that game ever commented on the fact their moon has an horrifying human face
11:44.49OluapPlayera*
11:45.30HachimanWell the guys in the first town you end up in deny the moon's course
11:46.49OluapPlayerThey do but still the moon has a face
11:46.57OluapPlayerThey act like that's completely natural
11:47.13HachimanWormy: There was a chapter where a voidhawk captain and her voidhawk shared intimate communication between one another before the voidhawk engaged in its final act of plunging into Saturn
11:47.51HachimanShe regretted not being able to join the voidhawk on its last flight since humans aren't permitted to join in the ritual, mainly for their own safety
11:48.03OluapPlayerbrb
11:55.25OluapPlayerback
12:01.19WormyHachiman:  I don't know what to think of this channel.  Alltime10s doesn't own the concept of listing top 10s, but this guy uses a very similar symbol but in blue https://www.youtube.com/user/Top10Media
12:01.55HachimanI think that's one of Alltime10s subchannels
12:02.00HachimanThey have multiple ones for different specific subjects
12:02.12Wormymaybe it is to grab subscribers of alltim10 in which it might be quite clever
12:02.20Wormyyeah that is possible
12:07.44HachimanI might retcon the YSE at some point to make it less cartoony, although I gotta focus on Zazane first
12:08.27OluapPlayerus
12:08.29OluapPlayeryus even
12:09.33HachimanIf I end up making ships for it you can pretty much guarantee that its most favoured and potent fighter craft is gonna be called the "Katana" hur
12:10.07HachimanA starfighter made of grorious nippon steer that's been folded a gorillion times
12:15.47Imperios_Hachiman: It can even cut crabs of sorid steer
12:15.52Imperios_*srabs
12:16.50WormyI found this huge moth last night http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smerinthus_ocellatus
12:18.25Hachimanaka hellspawn
12:19.24Wormyit was about this size http://tpittaway.tripod.com/sphinx/s_oce_a1.jpg
12:19.34Hachiman#nope
12:20.25Imperios_Wormy: The last link you posted was banned by the Russian government
12:20.29Imperios_Is it that big hur
12:20.43WormySomething they don't want you to know!
12:21.21Imperios_Rite, I bypassed the ban no- AOMASFDAS;FASFASF
12:21.43WormyIt looks evil
12:21.55Imperios_Putin must have been so scared by this picture that he banned the entire website hur
12:21.56WormyIt actually made be jump when it flew in my face
12:22.33WormyIt also can flash eyes at you when its pissed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Smerinthus_ocellatus_MHNT_Female_dos.jpg
12:27.06HachimanII wonder if the Uplifted Cetacea would hold a severe grudge against the space Japanese hur
12:27.37Wormyhttp://youtu.be/9TyNhNY0z68?t=53s
12:27.39Wormyyeah
12:32.47HachimanImperios  Imperios_: I'm wondering if it would be legitimate for Space!Japan to have Andromedan colonies
12:33.12WormyI've never seen a moth being fed before.  I didn't even know they ate anything during that phase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpbNtW8DenY&list=UUgMS-wum59GExmvfTcvmLsg
12:35.23HachimanWormy: That moth is ditzy as fuck
12:36.16HachimanGuy - Here's some honey that you like, you're free to eat some!     Moth - *flops onto its back*
12:36.20Wormyit looks weak tbh, maybe it is its first feed
12:37.22WormyI think he put too much honey down
12:37.35WormyIt looked like it got stuck in it hur
12:39.41Imperios_Hachiman: It'd make sense
12:40.33Imperios_Actually I wonder
12:41.07Imperios_Since the YSE and the EAC share the same region and the affinity for cybernetics, I wonder if the Stellar Empire began as a rogue EAC province
12:41.29HachimanEh I dunno
12:42.21HachimanI like the idea of the YSE being an independent faction like Japan always has been; it's never been part a client or protectorate of anything, always its own thing
12:43.13HachimanI do imagine that the YSE and EAC do interact a lot though
12:46.07WormyI've thought of some quotes to make from my factions
12:49.13HachimanAs for YSE retcon stuff, it's still gonna be largely pro-human but nowhere near as extremist, with the cartoony evil stuff removed; it'll also be renamed to the Yamato Intersolar Commune
12:50.39Imperios_More grorious hur
12:51.06HachimanAye, 100% more grorious
12:52.07WormyWill it still have an emperor?
12:52.57HachimanYes, and he will still be inside a machine I think
12:53.01WormyI wonder if the DCP and Yamato could have had a war once, probably the only Terran-DCP conflict (aside from fighting near-humans)
12:53.13HachimanAye they could have done
12:53.28Hachimanohgod that makes me think of a potential DCP character
12:53.54WormyOoh?
12:54.49HachimanA Warlord who abandoned the DCP to join Yamato and gave up his guns for hyper-advanced swords and blades
12:55.49WormyWell, I do want more Warlords
12:56.01WormyEvery DCP sector has a Warlord
12:56.30WormyHowabout, he was one of the Expansion Wedge sector Warlords?
12:56.36HachimanMakes sense
12:57.01WormyThe DCP's last wave of imperalistic colonisation in the Milky Way before the Tigris War
12:57.14WormyMight have been a point of contest with the Yamato
12:58.23WormyThe greatest are the Emperor sons/clones, but not all of them are
12:58.31WormyAll the ones so far listed are
12:58.42HachimanAye that makes sense
12:59.07HachimanI am lookingb forward to more Mantisorac/DCP-Vermulan War stuff btw
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12:59.53WormyThank you, there is more soon to come, and it will lead to some new fiction
13:00.07Wormyhi
13:06.29Liquid_InkThere's is dissapointingly little information on Hitler's views on the Turks
13:09.25HachimanI can imagine the Yamato Intersolar Commune and the Brood of War kinda getting on
13:09.44HachimanI kinda regret the Brood of War name because I think it sounds a bit nooby now but eh what you gonna do hur
13:10.50HachimanBy technicality its real name is the Fourth Sovereign Domain but nobody but the politicians in the Brood call it that hur
13:11.36Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10553636_877730498914629_5011045606138791501_n.jpg
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13:37.05JepardiHi
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13:42.15OluapPlayerhello
13:42.16TekDroidHello
13:42.28Monet_Hallo
13:42.50Cuttlefish_Hi
13:45.07Imperios_Hi Mon
13:48.29OluapPlayerHmm
13:48.45OluapPlayerWould it be possible to create something like Sundowner's shields in the fictionverse?
13:48.54HachimanProbably
13:49.22Monet_Well the plates should be easy.
13:49.46Monet_Although recreating the explosive effect....some regenerative explosive may be needed
13:49.47OluapPlayerI mostly mean the fukin invincibul part
13:50.05Monet_A few mechanical arms and some interlocking plates. Easy
13:50.38Monet_Although given the nature of soem weapons in the fictionverse,might need something better than a metallic alloy
13:52.09OluapPlayerI see
13:52.21OluapPlayerI'm totally not asking for character reasons hur
14:12.05Monet_I wonder how effective Sundowner's shield is against smart bullets
14:12.20OluapPlayerfukin invincibul/10
14:13.06Monet_I say that because an advanced enough smart bullet could curve its trajectory around the shield
14:13.31HachimanSmart bullets?
14:14.37Monet_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_bullet
14:14.49Monet_"The "smart" part comes from the bullet doing something other than simply following its given trajectory, e.g. turning, speeding up, slowing down, sending data, etc."
14:15.31OluapPlayerSundowner would probably get wrecked
14:15.46OluapPlayerhe stands completely still when shielding himself
14:16.26Monet_Yeah, not to mentino you can get guns designed to punch though armoured vehicles
14:20.06Monet_As I mentioned the other week, in the intro to MGR Jetstream Sam would have been cut to pieces by that mounted machinegun had he not deflected all the bullets with his sword.
14:22.00HachimanI dunno I think that suit he's wearing could've lessened the damage somewhat
14:24.22Monet_Yeah but those guns are designed to tear apart any protection lighter than that of an APC
14:26.10Monet_He wouldn't have been hurt as bad, I agree, but he still migth ave lost a limb
14:28.23HachimanWell in the end Monet
14:28.26HachimanHe did hur
14:29.26OluapPlayerle nanomachines faic
14:35.16Monet_I'm going on the basis that modern body armour can't stop rounds li that of an MG
14:36.01Monet_Despite the reputation of the ballistic vest, its effective at-best against small-arms fire.
14:36.57Monet_And even a reasonably-priced set of body armour is ineffective against anything more powerful than a 9mm pistol (which most soldiers don't wear)
14:37.48TekDroidThe story of military technology is one of a repeated cycle. Better armour is developed to protect against new weapons. New weapons are developed to shred better armour.
14:38.30TekDroidArmour is unlikely to ever greatly surpass weapons.
14:41.11TekDroid~test
14:41.12infobotfrom memory, test is not funny
14:41.56TekDroidSorry, got all technical again. XD
14:45.06Monet_Its fine
14:45.51Monet_"bulletproof" quite frequently brings up images of bullet immnity
14:45.55Monet_immunity*
14:46.22Monet_Although the armour firms themselves prefer the term "bullet-resistant"
14:46.37Monet_the armour industry itself*
14:48.06TekDroidAdvertising it as bulletproof would get them yelled at a lot. :P
14:49.13Monet_Yeah, even though the term originally meant "this armous has been tested against bullets"
14:51.08Monet_They changed probably for the same reason scientists no longer use the term "global warming"
14:52.34Technobliteratorhow the fuck do I reinterleave an AVI file
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14:55.02Quark8Hello.
14:55.14Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10488014_10152601519215879_3855382477072384318_n.jpg
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14:59.44TekDroidHello
14:59.52Quark8_Hi
15:03.00Quark8_Brb breakfast.
15:19.20Imperios_http://img.fark.net/images/cache/Y/Y_/fark_Y_4CtljjOHuoE03LOBIiF3RdVco.jpg?t=xrGK-H1TgdN8gtEvSQVbtw&f=1404705600
15:20.36HachimanI get a 403 and a picture of a squirrel with its balls hanging out
15:37.47Imperios_https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc41/-6Sd2GnwYU0.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc48/5KDfnKfDFmM.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc4f/fok8O-Frzgs.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc56/_bK7erAWOVI.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc5d/OkCYl98JtgM.jpg
15:38.25Imperios_https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc64/Qxj6NYg8ZDI.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc6b/oHqoSbefjSM.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc72/TRmxCCM-QAI.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc79/TrgFtJAdfkM.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c618817/v618817551/fc80/JZyQl_9l2E8.jpg I cried
15:38.37Imperios_I still can't recognise the blue-eyed blonde girl though
15:38.43Imperios_What cartoon is she from?
15:38.54HachimanAlice in Wonderland
15:40.14Imperios_Monet: https://pp.vk.me/c620030/v620030114/e09d/xP47d7a0d9A.jpg Go go power Asura
15:47.58Monet_Lol
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16:10.20Quark8test
16:14.55WormyA most interesting discussion on the Vulcan's religious logic http://www.reddit.com/r/DaystromInstitute/comments/1wjixf/how_studying_philosophy_ruined_star_trek_vulcans/
16:15.25Wormythe attacking comment (first one) is flawed but the discussion below good
16:19.30HachimanMy niece won't stop trying to touch my hair
16:19.32Hachimantis annoyin
16:20.07Monet_Aww :)
16:20.22HachimanI hate human children
16:20.34Quark8My sister once tried to cut my hair off.
16:21.02OluapPlayerolol
16:21.12OluapPlayerI don't like children or babies
16:22.08HachimanThe worst thing about children and babies is that they grow into humans
16:22.12WormyI'm studying what Vulcan logic might actually be
16:22.53Monet_I don't like when babies cry or when kids throw tantrums but other than that I adore them
16:23.02WormyWhat do you mean?
16:23.08WormyHumans are great!
16:23.14Wormy...For eating!
16:23.34HachimanHumans are dirty hairless fleshy things that consume resources without giving anything back
16:23.46HachimanAside from poo. And I hate poo.
16:23.55WormyThe Cephalodians are everything humans are not
16:23.56Monet_So do cats.
16:24.03HachimanI also hate cats hur
16:24.13Monet_You won't like visitng myhouse then
16:24.25Hachimanur a crazy cat lady
16:24.39WormyI prefer dogs and dolphins to humankind
16:25.16OluapPlayer>I also hate cats hur
16:25.17WormyA dog wouldn't judge you if you had three arms, bolue skin and one eye
16:25.18OluapPlayerYou're ded to me
16:25.35Quark8Dogs hate me.
16:25.57WormyA dog might judge you by how you act around them though.
16:26.29WormyBut that is a superior thing to judge on
16:26.58Quark8Well, the first time I met a dog they jumped, I thought were going to attack and kicked it. My bad.
16:27.02Wormyis making up all this shit hur
16:27.32WormyThat is a serious mis-translation.
16:27.50WormyBut an understandable one for someone not brought up around them maybe
16:28.35Quark8I was around six, and my dad hates seeing animals as pets, so I never had a dog.
16:28.41WormyI have entire conversations with my dogs using body language, voice intensity, even some words from me
16:28.53Monet_Wormy the dog whisperer
16:29.00TekDroidLol
16:29.10WormyIts hard to describe
16:29.20WormyAll dog owners will tell you it though
16:29.35OluapPlayerI had a dog once
16:29.39Wormydogs are sentient imo
16:29.41OluapPlayerHe was an asshole but I loved him
16:30.43WormyRecent study shows that dogs are aware of their owners limitations.  So if the light is off, the dog is more likely to steal the food
16:30.58TekDroidMy aunt's dog almost died after eating a sock. I question that fact sometimes.
16:31.23Wormywell my dogs don't eat socks
16:31.52WormyThey are individuals also, I think some are smarter than others
16:32.10WormyMy whippet is somewhat thick in comparison to my border collie cross jack russel
16:32.42Wormybut then, he is less human-wise and more dog-wise, far more cunning
16:32.59WormyI've been tricked by my dogs
16:33.17OluapPlayerYour dogs aren'y cunning, you're just dum hur
16:33.21OluapPlayert*
16:34.11Monet_Same result really
16:34.16WormyThey must be cunning to do it in the first place, but I don't doubt I was dumb for being tricked.  The whippet once cried to be let outside so I got up from my chair, let him out, but then he shot through my legs and stole my seat.
16:34.43Quark8Good dog.
16:35.09Monet_Yep, that's a clever dog
16:35.13WormyIt was a strange feeling to be outsmarted by another animal
16:37.12WormyI've noticed by more humanly-wise dog can tell the time, even without visual cues.  For example, my grandmother gets up at 6 in the morning sometimes and walks him (typical old people) when I stay over.  So now every 6 in the morning, annoyingly, he is trying to wake me up
16:38.11WormyWhat cues could he picking up on if we are all asleep?  Nothing my senses can detect
16:38.15Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10502074_257698891094141_6686819081382991970_n.jpg
16:38.31TekDroidO.o
16:38.55OluapPlayerolol
16:39.14WormyPeople say dogs don't have a concepot of future.  That is bullshit.  I taught my dog the meaning of "later", so when he wants a walk and I don't want to walk him yet I say "later".  It works and word "No" doesn;t
16:40.42WormyHachi:  About sums up the youtube community
16:44.35WormyI don't think the flag should change, it could represent the landmass, not the human geography http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25205017
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16:45.39Wormymost of those designs are an eye sore of colour choice and shape
16:48.37Quark8I agree.
16:48.44Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10377000_483294658481548_9094595707009114515_n.jpg
16:49.42OluapPlayerhur
16:50.29Imperios_Wait, who is this guy
16:50.47Imperios_I think I saw him somewhere... Bill Nye, right?
16:50.57HachimanJah
16:51.02HachimanBill Nye the Science Guy
16:54.14Imperios_So basically your version of our Drozdov hur
16:55.48Imperios_Actually no, that'd be David Attenborough
17:00.38Imperios_Which American/British/European broadcaster narrated naturalist programs and had a cool voice?
17:01.28Quark8Wormy?
17:02.05Monet_Attenborough.
17:02.09Monet_And he's British
17:10.56OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Son_of_Gotla#The_Custodian.27s_Dreadnought new section
17:11.14HachimanThis took several days to do so reed pls
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17:15.39HachimanImperios_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Son_of_Gotla#The_Custodian.27s_Dreadnought reed pls
17:15.48Imperios_Saw
17:15.54Imperios_Tetrashepard hur
17:16.06Imperios_Also I thought you wouldn't be RPing today
17:16.32HachimanI wasn't but this needed finishing considering this was already started before today
17:16.51Imperios_:<
17:16.53Imperios_Okay
17:17.41Imperios_You should have said you'd be finishing this one today, I'd have understood
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17:23.09OluapPlayerdumba
17:24.24Technobliteratorya dad
17:27.36OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/GmsuY.jpg
17:28.42HachimanTechnobliterator: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Son_of_Gotla#The_Custodian.27s_Dreadnought reed u dum
17:28.45HachimanAnd hai
17:28.53Technobliteratorneva
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17:30.24Hachimanbrb dinner
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18:06.02Hachimanbak
18:06.08OluapPlayerew go away
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18:28.36Technobliteratorwormy, you should probably rewrite your user page :o
18:28.41TechnobliteratorHachiman, I will read now
18:31.05TechnobliteratorKinrar - If I am correct, the ship will have an on board artificial intelligence that handles a network of other AIs, one of which maintains the security procedures. I have an idea...
18:31.11TechnobliteratorOmega Commander - copycat dumbos
18:32.55WormyWghats wrong with it lol
18:34.07WormyCan anyone access the archives?  If I click on it, I can't open it in Chrome or IE.  Liquid had to unzip it, toopen the webpage.
18:34.17Wormyits weird
18:34.33TekDroidarchives?
18:34.47Wormyhttp://infobot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/
18:34.49Technobliteratornothing's wrong with it
18:34.49OluapPlayerYes you have to unzip them to access them now
18:34.53Technobliteratorit's just outdated :o
18:35.09Technobliteratorpfft
18:35.09WormyThats so bloody annoying, I wonder why
18:35.10OluapPlayerWhich is kind of annoying
18:35.12Technobliteratorwho reads the archives anyway
18:35.26OluapPlayerMultiple people
18:35.27OluapPlayerMe included
18:35.50TechnobliteratorVoroch - Perhaps they try to make themselves as similar to their old enemies as possible while refusing to allow any other race to do the same. Sounds like extremely jealously if you ask me.
18:35.51WormyI use the logs to save posts and information or look back at conversations I liked
18:35.54Technobliteratoru jelly bro
18:36.01WormyI also talk to Cyrannian via logs
18:36.20Technobliteratorwell, why? I don't see why anyone would read through tons of text just out of paranoia that someone might have said something about them
18:36.35WormyI don't use the logs for that.
18:36.51TekDroidIt's more to check stuff we did see and wanted to reread.
18:36.53Technobliteratorthen what for?
18:37.10WormyI use it sometimes if I have timed out and want to see what I missed
18:37.13Technobliteratorwell, if there was something that should have been read, why was it not on the wiki?
18:37.43TekDroidFiction plans that haven't been written, for instance
18:37.47WormyWell, we don't need to write al;l our ideas on the wikis?  Or conversations
18:38.18Technobliteratoryou don't, but to me if something wasn't important enough to be written on the wiki, then I probably didn't miss much
18:38.23Technobliteratorbut eh, I see what you mean
18:38.35OluapPlayerstop complainin and finish readin
18:38.44Technobliteratorshup ya moms dum
18:41.42TechnobliteratorTetra - Oh... S-Sorry for, uhh, waking you... Y-You can go back to sleep now.
18:41.44Technobliteratorlmfao
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18:43.52Technobliteratorstory is likable as usual
18:44.03Technobliteratorsame complaint as always
18:44.09DrodoEmpireHey,, everyone
18:44.13DrodoEmpire*,
18:44.38Technobliteratorthis section seemed kind of interesting, it felt like it was different to the others in that story in a way but it was a good change of pace
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18:56.18WormyVirgin Galactic ought to offer the leader of the Flat Earth Society a free trip to space.
18:57.26WormyMaybe there is a reason why this has happened.
18:57.42Wormygoes to the corner
18:57.46Monet_He'd probably come up with some BS explaination.
18:57.51TekDroid^
18:57.54Monet_Or just assume he's being lied to
18:58.25TekDroidProbably make up some wierd explanation about light pending.
18:58.55Monet_"That's not the Earth outside the plane window yo're trying to trick me with lies and deceit!"
18:59.06TekDroidor that.
18:59.56HachimanHmm what would you call a society where a Prime Minister who is diplomatically elected is present but also a monarchial figure?
19:00.01WormyThat is true, direct experience is not a demarcation for truth.  In a weird way he actually right.  Buit theoretically, his theories will be far from the truth
19:00.19Monet_Hachiman: You mean like the UK?
19:00.23HachimanJah
19:00.29Monet_Constitutional Monarchy
19:02.01Hachimanrite
19:02.37Monet_Many nations have two "leaders"; the head of state and the head of government.
19:03.05Monet_Monarch = head of state, prime minister = head of government.
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19:05.00AdmiralPandahai all
19:05.15TekDroidHello
19:05.59OluapPlayerpondo
19:06.48WormyHachiman:  Khan's theme (from Star Trek III) goes with the Yamato http://youtu.be/sKtieXEBLcE?t=12s
19:06.54Monet_Wormy: I think I went on a rant the other day about how the whole "the Earth is flat" thing might have been popularised
19:08.19WormyI saw it but just skimmed over
19:09.05WormyI think a lot of Flat Earthers aren't serious about it,  but creating the conversation.  Sir Patrick Moore joined them for example
19:09.32Monet_Really? After all his time as an astronomer?
19:09.39TechnobliteratorWormy, there was a creationist who denied the existence of the moon
19:09.41Technobliterator-__-
19:09.55Technobliteratorand said not to believe in science because Satan is deceiving us
19:09.58WormyHe joined them as a joke
19:10.18Monet_Okay I can see the humour in that
19:10.39WormyThats not as bad as David Icke saying the Moon was a hollow spaceship designed to project illusions on the Earth and control our minds!
19:10.44AdmiralPandaTechno: And those people need to be taken round back and shot :P
19:11.09Technobliteratorikr
19:11.10Monet_Technobliterator:  The creationists who believe science is inherently evil are a special kind of bigot.
19:11.18Technobliteratoryeah
19:11.22Monet_Especially if he's using the internet ot talk to you
19:11.28Technobliteratorprecisely
19:11.35Technobliteratorrejecting science while enjoying the fruits of science
19:12.35Monet_I met one guy online who believed the only "good science" is stuff that's been secretly drip-fed to us by [insert supreme being here]
19:13.42Monet_People who see science as evil is one thing, but then there are people who think the only progress humans can make isn't of or own volition - those peope annoy me.
19:15.02AdmiralPandaoh btw guys, I have found one of the best (and proven) methods of getting dumb christians to shut up
19:15.32Monet_I think you've mentioned it haven't you?
19:15.54AdmiralPandaAsk them if they believe that they should follow God's will, then ask them if the world was created according to God's will, and when they answer yes to both, say "Well then, it's God's will that I don't believe in him, so leave me alone."
19:16.24Monet_So it works
19:16.48Monet_Even though it sounds like some may interpret it as "I cannot be saved"
19:17.44AdmiralPandasome may, but you just counter that with "I'm clearly not meant to be saved, and this is God testing you."
19:17.59Imperios_Hi
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19:18.47WormyI just say something similar, that it is not just choice but the fact I feel incapable of a religious mindset
19:19.04WormyWhich I do, I can't understand blind faith
19:19.26WormyMy mind demands explanation for everything
19:19.36Tek0516DroidSame.
19:20.03Monet_I was thinking earlier, faiths like Hinduism, Shinto and Buddhism could be more easily accommodating to aliens than Christianity or Judaism.
19:20.48WormyIf I do argue with creationists I use a two-pronged attack, geology (of which I'm a student of) and epistemology
19:21.03Monet_Since Hindu reincarnation states that oen could be reincarnated as anything depending on your actions in life, what's to say peope laren't being reincarnated two thousand light-years away on another planet?
19:21.47AdmiralPandaThat would explain all the new souls
19:21.54WormyI will argue about fallibalism, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explanatory_power, the scientific method and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Rationalism
19:22.14Wormyto get to the flaws of creationist ideology
19:24.00Monet_The main issue with aliens adopting Christianity or Judaism is it's strongly humanocentric - It is quite solidly stated that humans were made in god's image and Jews are "God's chosen people"....ALiens are a bit of an outsider factor
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19:24.48WormyI'm teaching myself propositional calculus who knows maybe I'll use logic as well to tie up their tongues and silence them.
19:24.51Monet_The best chance of conversion involves a massive paradigm shift in dogma to include aliens somehow
19:26.06Monet_Idunno something like "God made the Earth in seven days, then he repeated these actions over the surface of Balzopoxis"
19:26.29AdmiralPandathat or "God made the universe in seven days"
19:27.06Monet_That...might work with a little mroe change
19:27.18Monet_Probably more like "God made the universe in several seconds"
19:27.21AdmiralPandathat said, I think any alien culture we meet will either A) have their own religion, B) have transcended religion, or C) find religion so alien a concept that they don't care
19:28.12Monet_I'm a subscriber to the idea that the concept of religion may be universal.
19:28.21WormyIn Exultant (Xeelee Sequence), a human and a Silver Ghost debate this.  The human tries to argue the Silver Ghosts' religion does eventually point to a creator, but the Silver Ghost doesn't agree.
19:28.53Monet_I remember reading in the New Scientist of chimps climbing to the tops of trees during thunderstorms and waving branches and their arms about.
19:29.35Monet_Perhap some kind of ritual to make the loud noises stop?
19:29.38WormyThe Silver Ghosts believe the the flaws of the universe are to be corrected, and that is why they build tech that seems to push the laws of nature to their limits
19:29.42Imperios_I doubt that someone would ever trascend religion
19:30.03Imperios_we cannot know everything
19:30.05Monet_Imperios_: Agreed. Look at football and celebrity obsessions.
19:30.08Imperios_Ergo we try to make guesses
19:30.18Imperios_Also it is in our nature to revere things
19:30.26Monet_Exactly!
19:30.34HachimanOur nature, but not an alien's
19:30.59Monet_Well as I indicated its possible chimps do this kind of stuff too.
19:31.20WormyFor B to occur the society would have to be regressive (with no creactivity or criticism), mono-minded (with no arguments or guessing people)
19:32.24WormyI think we should take mystical experiences, altered states and spirituality very seriously when studying the mind.  It is a function of our minds afterall.
19:33.20Monet_Hachiman: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13860-six-uniquely-human-traits-now-found-in-animals.html?full=true
19:34.24WormyIn Orions Arm there are interesting religions, "even the greatest of the AIs are seen to be working to purposes and goals that go beyond even their nature."   http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-topic/45bce4b65a4ce
19:35.20Monet_One of the themes I had planned to include in that novel I have yet to finish is religious interaction.
19:35.54WormyThat psychological aspect might be shared by other sentients.  I'm not sure if it universal to all but that one about chimps implies it is to creatures which share features and Earth's environments with humans
19:36.12WormyIts like the discussion on alien mathematics
19:36.35Wormyit could vary a great deal though, in species that do revere something beyond them
19:37.39WormyThere might be alien concepts that can't be translated
19:38.05Monet_It has become something of a nexpectation that in utopian science fiction works, people have left religion (specifically Abrahamic beliefs) behind them.
19:38.51WormyYeah, sci-fi is very idealist really, from author to author
19:39.33WormyThe first utopian stories I think were written by religious people however
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19:39.45DrodoEmpireBack.
19:39.49Wormymaybe it is an anarchy of that
19:39.51Wormyhi
19:40.50Monet_I think there's indication that the UFP is a strongly atheist society.
19:41.47WormyJesus the 'Borg http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4681aafd61eee
19:42.34Monet_I don't remember much about the original series but Its just a random guess that Kirk being born in Iowa, USA and McCoy being from the deep south might exlain any nascant spirituality.
19:43.14Monet_It was the Cold War after all, the period where "one nation under God" was added to the US oath of alliegence.
19:43.45WormyChristianity still persists 10,000 AD http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4625929c7a512
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19:48.07Wormyhi
19:48.14TybusenHello
19:48.17Monet_Hi
19:49.29TybusenYesterday someone must have stolen two of my Fence Gates and let all of my livestock loose, because that's what I found yesterday when I logged on to the MC server
19:50.08Imperios_Tybusen: Erm... oops, I was just logging in and really confused and there were zombies everywhere and I tried to hide so
19:50.10Imperios_Aw
19:50.11Imperios_Sorry :<
19:50.44Imperios_If you want I can help you to get your livestock back
19:50.46Tybusenopen the gate u dum don't break it :U
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19:50.58TybusenDon't worry, I already got them back and replaced the gates
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19:51.50dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/aVXSKTj
19:54.46Wormy"There is a problem here: The sun is very hot."  "Then just go at night, stupid."
19:57.07dromhttp://i.imgur.com/KNfKR6i.png
19:57.36drom(the football team in the picture is the Brazil's team for this year's VM)
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19:58.14Sporeraptorhi
20:03.39DrodoEmpireHey
20:06.00dromhey
20:06.03dromhttp://i.imgur.com/NrJku9x.jpg
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20:18.58Hachiman-Me to OluapPlayer
20:19.03WormyHachiman:  Here is my quotes for when the page is done.  Including a klingon-esque/Klingon character  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Sig#Yamato_Stellar_Empire_.28or_Yamato_Intersolar_Commune.29
20:19.24Wormycuz Klingon vs Samurai hur
20:19.31OluapPlayerHachiman: ;A;
20:20.22HachimanWormy: Nice, thanks
20:22.32Monet_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Monet47/Minecraft I have pictures
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20:27.22Sporeraptorhi
20:27.23Monet_Hi
20:27.43Monet_ALso can anyone suggest where I could put this other than as a subesection of my user profile
20:28.54AdmiralPandaTh-that was our house ;-;
20:29.20WormyI think out-of-wiki-but-community projects have always been user subpages
20:29.24OluapPlayerhaus ded
20:29.28AdmiralPandaalso, enough with the fire jokes
20:29.39OluapPlayerbut dey're hot
20:29.57AdmiralPandaI built the house out in the ocean because I wasn't sure the lake would be big enough, not to keep fire out
20:30.20Monet_Yeah I'll stop reminding you from now on
20:30.34AdmiralPandaand I have the cobblestone in storage because once I revamp the animal farm I'm going to turn the roof into stone brick
20:31.23AdmiralPandaranting done
20:31.32AdmiralPandathe overabundant fire jokes set me off a bit
20:32.26HachimanOhgod what happened
20:32.36Monet_Yeah good point, it was only an accident
20:32.42OluapPlayerhttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140711203226/spore/images/c/ca/Satamaxillus.png have a T-rex to cheer you up
20:32.45AdmiralPandaI built a device that feeds cows into a lava blade
20:32.59AdmiralPandaand somehow it set the house on fire
20:33.09AdmiralPandasince then that seems to be the only thing people talk about
20:33.24HachimanSounds like a hot topic
20:33.29AdmiralPandaoh fuck off
20:33.53AdmiralPandaI literally just told you I'm sick of the fucking fire jokes
20:33.54Monet_Yeah that was overdoing it
20:33.58drommy sides
20:38.24dromhttp://i.imgur.com/HvvdU.jpg
20:39.13TybusenMonet_: If you haven't been to the Nether lately, I built a small fort there
20:39.30AdmiralPandaanyone who wants to get anything from the burned out wreck should do so immediately, it won't be there for long
20:40.21Monet_Tybusen: I have yet to visit the Nether
20:41.11TybusenI built a safehouse so that you can hide from the Ghasts, and it's got secure access to some Quartz veins
20:42.42dromWhatcha talking about? Minecraft?
20:42.51Monet_drom: Yeah
20:43.05Monet_Tybusen: THat's hood. I've got a new house project pland and I may need some quartz
20:47.32TybusenShit.
20:47.40TybusenThere's Ghasts surrounding the portal.
20:49.03TybusenThe whole platform is on fire.
20:49.54Monet_It wasn't designed ot look like Hell for nothing
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20:52.01Sporeraptorhi
20:56.01Wormyhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Fjord_League_of_Northern_Europe#Neovikings
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21:02.31Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Plazithian_Seismomachy/Year_One#The_Plan_Revealed
21:02.35Angrybirdsmt
21:03.36HachimanAngrybirds: Would you mind if I borrowed some of the page layout from the France page?
21:04.03AngrybirdsNot all all! Use what you like. What are you thinking of borrowing?
21:05.01HachimanThe history layout seems like a good way of organizing Yamato's history accordingly
21:05.50Jepardihttp://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/ay5gp0W_460s.jpg
21:06.14SporeraptorNice part, however the Neraida were really careless with these infomrations.
21:06.23Angrybirds^ I thought that too.
21:07.09AngrybirdsHachiman : Hm, alright. Do you want Yamato and France to have any sort of relationship / common events / projects in the Milky Way or even in their colonies?
21:07.31HachimanI'll have to have a think about that
21:08.04AngrybirdsAlright. And if you're picking back up Yamato, you have a say in how the OL is run and can participate in its stories, like the Seisomachy, where it's going to get involved.
21:08.51Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AOrion_League
21:09.21Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AThe_Clanden/Sandbox#The_Orion_League_Responds << This will go up soon in the Seisomachy, if you want to add anything about Yamato involvement, or, conversely, about their abstention.
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21:23.48dromVery well.
21:24.43HachimanAngrybirds: Would it be safe to say that France hired Japanese PMCs during their civil war in the 21st century?
21:28.52AngrybirdsThey could have to supplement their armed forces who might have been shaky at the time, especially given the fact that they'd be fighting against French extremists.
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21:29.32AngrybirdsThough this would have been very limited as far as the government is concerned. The more ambitious rebel cells, on the other hand, are another story.
21:31.04HachimanWell Japan also would have been in a state of civil war at around the same time and while nationalist groups fought for political dominance on their home turf, many Japanese groups migrated overseas to work in or found PMCs so that they could get away from the chaos in their homeland and the consistent earthquakes, as well as fight for the continental powers they supported
21:33.27AngrybirdsUnderstood. I've done a little research, and it seems it's actually illegal for the French government to hire mercenaries, though a BUNCH of private institutions, businesses, corporations, even private schools would probably hire PMC's in order to defend themselves during the unrest.
21:35.39AngrybirdsHachiman ^
21:35.48Hachimanrite gotcha
21:38.02TekDroidWhat did I miss?
21:39.47DrodoEmpiretest
21:41.22TekDroidyou passed DrodoEmpire
21:49.51Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Yamato_Intersolar_Commune How does this look so far?
21:51.51SporeraptorWhat do you think ? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Cyrannian_War/Year_One/Dealing_with_the_Devil#Ambassador.27s_Arrival
21:53.38AngrybirdsHachiman : It needs a flag. xD
21:53.47HachimanYeah I know ;-;
21:54.09SporeraptorHachiman: Looks very good so far, I am very interested in the rest of the history
21:54.17Angrybirds*is reading*
21:54.25Wormysweet dreams my lovelies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcVh-tXfwZw
21:54.29DrodoEmpireHachi: I'm reading right now, and it looks nice
21:59.32AngrybirdsFinished reading. I really liked the detail and the PMC idea and how it was implemented.
22:00.07AngrybirdsAlso, I like the format. ;)
22:00.47Hachimanhuehue
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22:05.55AdmiralPandaalright, that's enough minecraft progress for now, I'm going to take a walk around the local markets then come back and do some more
22:06.56WormySuperb sections Hachi.  Few have added so much detail to the real history of their nations before World War 3
22:08.30HachimanI wonder if whaling became a significant problem again once the OPO formed due to needing to jump start the economy again, and what better way to do that then farm and harvest whale and dolphin produce
22:09.33dromAlright, I added a new plan to my list of ideas (blog post).
22:09.59Angrybirdsdrom: Link?
22:10.12dromhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Dromlexer/My_Plans
22:10.33dromThe new plan can be found at the bottom of "stories" list.
22:11.12dromAlright. I'll be unavailable until tomorrow. See ya.
22:12.30Sporeraptorbye
22:13.07AngrybirdsHachiman : I have a feeling the Orion League will take questionable stances during the Seisomachy. I'll be interested to see where Yamato stands, especially given their membership to the ATR. It's even -possible-, unlikely, but -possible- that the two might come into conflict.
22:14.41HachimanOoh? How so?
22:15.04AngrybirdsThat, is my secret. ;)
22:15.25WormyI didn't know Japan still had a Royal Family http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/10545850/Japans-royal-family-pose-for-unusual-New-Year-photo.html
22:16.26HachimanJapan's a constitutional monarchy like Britain
22:17.03AngrybirdsYeah, America didn't get rid of them when they wrote their constitution.
22:19.50WormyThe article states they are quite secretive and rarely seen by the public
22:21.11WormyThe British Royals are always on the face of events http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kate+Middleton+Le+Tour+de+France+2014+Stage+aqq5LIxjMdgl.jpg
22:22.41AngrybirdsHachiman: "Everywhere I look––in every corner of the Gigaquadrant––I see the same signs: hard times are ahead of us. Alliances are beginning to fracture, old rivalries are beginning to resurface, and the great tectonic plates that make up the political landscape of the universe are shifting. We might, in the near future, be forced by circumstance to turn on an ally or to wage war against someone we never would have thoug
22:22.43Monet_Well yeah, the Royal Family brings in something like £500 million a year from tourism
22:23.02Angrybirds^ *hint hint* said by France's PM in a section.
22:23.33HachimanSo France may end up attacking the main guys who protect humanity from aliens hur
22:23.47HachimanAnd promote human interests
22:24.41AngrybirdsDepends on the circumstances, and I wouldn't say that the ATR are the -main- guys. Let's not forget the Orion League, composed of a good twenty human or near-human states. xD
22:25.20HachimanI meant Yamato hur
22:26.09Monet_brb
22:26.14WormyEven the Fjord League feel safe with the Yamato around
22:26.33AngrybirdsOh. Well, it depends on where they stand in the greater scheme of things. We're speaking hypothetically and with no real context, but France would definitely want Yamato on its side.
22:27.30Angrybirdsas a general rule. I'm not saying that France would suddenly turn on humanity for no reason.
22:28.49WormyAlso, I'll contest that.  The ATR has many near-human factions (as part of the Kindred Coalition), some spacefaring long before the Earthers.  It has alien members and many alien allies, and intergalactic connections.  It is an active member (and cofounder) of The Civilisation
22:29.15HachimanYamato Stellar Empire - c
22:29.23HachimanWoops not Stellar Empire
22:29.31HachimanYamato Intersolar Commune - c
22:29.46WormyI think they are about equal, but both have rooted themselves into the Gigaquadrant in different ways.
22:30.34WormyOL might be the main guys for Terran humans, the inheritors of Earth, etc.
22:31.22AngrybirdsWormy : Yeah, I didn't mean to devalue the ATR. I also see them as roughly equal.
22:33.11WormyI see, I read it wrong
22:34.11WormyNations like the Fjord, Yamato and Kindred probably have their fingers in both pies it seems
22:35.57HachimanFunny because despite being pro-human the Yamato are part of an organization co-founded by aliens
22:36.09HachimanPerhaps they did it to promote humans among the galactic community
22:36.20AngrybirdsWhich would be very interesting to see where their loyalties lie if they had to choose.
22:37.04HachimanCould lead to more DCP-Yamato conflicts maybe :p
22:38.00WormyDepends what the humans are doing.  The DCP looks upon humanity more favourably, at least those unifying
22:38.39WormyBut still for the most part don't like humans a great deal but not enough to destroy them
22:39.38WormyExcept these (remember them?)  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Halloway
22:39.53WormyThe DCP is allergic to all of Irskaads fiction lol
22:41.04Wormyhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Halloway#First_massacre
22:42.12WormyActually
22:42.19WormySince they are never coming back
22:42.45WormyI'll assume they were wiped out by the massacre or more likely, absorbed by the DCP
22:59.02HachimanI might give the Yamato some ships and vessels like the Spline/voidhawks
23:01.44AngrybirdsOooh. Would Yamato put some of their older stuff on the Arms market, or would they just keep it to themselves?
23:01.45AdmiralPandadid I miss anything server-related while I was away?
23:01.56HachimanAdmiralPanda: Nope
23:02.02HachimanAngrybirds: I imagine they would yes
23:02.05AdmiralPandarite, back to my project
23:02.09HachimanThat is, put it on market
23:02.20AdmiralPandaanyone feel like pretending to be Leonidas on some cows?
23:02.35HachimanI don't have MC so no unfortunately :p
23:02.40AngrybirdsHachiman : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AArms_Market For your convenience.
23:02.53AdmiralPandahuh, I thought you did
23:03.19HachimanNope
23:03.31AdmiralPandaoh also, you guys in britain have fudge right?
23:03.37HachimanJah of course
23:03.52AdmiralPandathere was a stall at the new market near my house that had 52 flavours of fudge
23:04.03Hachimanohgod
23:04.12AdmiralPandaI may have squee'd a little
23:04.28AdmiralPandaand then bought a sampler pack of ten :P
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23:18.19WormyMade the Earth picture more verdant http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Earth_our_home.png
23:18.21WormyHi
23:18.47WormyUsing After Effects I could probably add clouds but meh
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23:22.28HachimanHai you both
23:22.40Monet_Hello.
23:22.45OluapPlayerhonk
23:23.07Monet_Thinking about it, I think I may have a natural degree of snark in myself.
23:23.15HachimanYou don't say hur
23:23.33Monet_Is it that bad?
23:24.29Liquid_InkNo, it's just not so hard to notice
23:25.33Monet_My favourite comedians include Frankie Boyle, Charlie Brooker, Phil Mitchell, Russell Howard and just now I was watching a cene from Mock the Week where everyone was making jokes exaggerating about Dara O'brian's larger-than normal head.
23:25.42Hachimanolol
23:25.55AdmiralPandasnark is one of the five essential food groups
23:28.01Monet_One of the jokes that got me larughing hardest was "its so big it has its own gravitational pull, look it's drawn in a planet behind you!". This http://www.etnow.com/images/general/news/large/100665002_6986.jpg is the set for Mock the Week and Dara sits in the chair under the K.
23:31.27Monet_One of my all-time favourite Frankie Boyle jokes is about the London 2012 olympic bid.
23:31.50Monet_"For fity million we could ahve carved "F*** off Germany" ont othe moon"
23:31.57WormyThis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Mitchell ?
23:32.13Monet_I meant *david* mitchell, sorry.
23:32.19Monet_Argh
23:33.26HachimanYou know since the Yamato have Andromedan colonies I don't imagine it'd be too strange for the Yamato and the Zazane to have at least some contact
23:33.42HachimanWhich means there could be a small populace of Zazane samurai :p
23:34.16Wormycool
23:34.29Monet_I thought Emperor Yamato was an extreme speicist?
23:34.41HachimanI'm giving the Yamato some rewrites
23:34.50HachimanThey're pro-human but not so extremist anymore
23:35.16OluapPlayerZazane are two double weeaboos
23:35.21OluapPlayerare now*
23:35.52WormyHachi:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfypScp8K9o
23:37.18HachimanI'm wondering what to call Yamato's living ships, I'm thinking something like Kabutotestu (trans: iron helmet), Kishuhoshi (trans: star rider) or just outright Samurai :p
23:38.01Monet_"star rider" sounds nice
23:38.34Wormy<PROTECTED>
23:39.09Monet_Actually this makes me curious. In terms of upbringing what makes Samurai different from knights?
23:39.42OluapPlayerbored
23:40.05Monet_What is required to become a samurai and how does one be eligable?
23:40.13AdmiralPandasame basic principle
23:40.23AdmiralPandanoble families and whatnot
23:40.26HachimanAye
23:40.45HachimanAny old mook could be a soldier, but it takes a special to be a Samurai
23:41.16Monet_Be from a noble family, get accepted as a squire, train hard, study etc.
23:41.31Monet_Or whatever the Japanese equivilent of squire would be
23:41.40HachimanSchoolgirl hur
23:41.51AdmiralPandaSENPAIIII
23:42.26AdmiralPandaoh, this from my friend: "If you ever wanted a hyper-effective army of bullet sponges, just tell all the otakus that the american government wants to destroy all anime
23:42.35Hachimanolol
23:43.44Monet_Main reason I'm aksing is because my understanding of knight training is that training goes from childhood, though your teenage years and into adulthood.
23:44.05WormyThis is just wrong and sad http://forum.slowtwitch.com/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Lavender_Room_F4/Is_it_Safe_to_Eat_Wild_Bird_Eggs_I_Found_in_a_Nest_Outside_P2390824/
23:44.21AdmiralPandait was usually more lessons early, and once you get to your teens then you start sword practice
23:44.34Monet_Yeah
23:46.20Monet_I wonder how well-adjusted Zazane would be to that kind of lifestyle.
23:46.31Monet_Which, admittedly, is very similar to Inquisitor training
23:46.55Monet_...and possibly blood drago ntraining but that also has a healthy mix of P.E. mixed in
23:48.11HachimanProbably quite well
23:50.56Monet_If I recall, Blood Dragon cadets are given focus-lessons in history, martial theory, anatomy, first aid and sociology.
23:51.08Monet_Alongside other more common educational subjects
23:52.09AngrybirdsI think I've written somewhere that France has some of the humanity' best officer's universities
23:52.18Angrybirdshumanity's*
23:52.32DrodoEmpire*Officers'
23:52.34DrodoEmpire>:3
23:52.37AngrybirdsMy bad.
23:52.42DrodoEmpireIts fine.
23:52.45DrodoEmpireXD
23:53.43AngrybirdsRanging from traditional stone-building and large-classroom style universities teaching Sun Tzu and just about everything else to educational facilities greatly facilitated and personalized by technology and artificial intelligence.
23:54.36HachimanYamato have some of the best materials out of the human nations because grorious nippon steer forded 1000 times
23:55.15OluapPlayer>no gorillon
23:55.17OluapPlayershamefur dispray
23:55.40Monet_Folding that many times gives you shitty steel though.
23:55.57OluapPlayerIt rustles jimmies really well tho
23:55.59AngrybirdsBut what seems to characterize French military education is a thorough understanding of the conduct of warfare in all of its forms, including geopolitical, philosophical, and traditional aspects and especially the theoretical relationship between the military and the state. Numerous books by DeGaulle are taught on that last subject.
23:56.55AngrybirdsAll of that giving rise to a staff of unrivaled quality: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AMarshal_of_France
23:58.02Monet_And it certianly shows
23:58.22HachimanHeh I like musing on the thought that the Yamato, while capable of actually achieving it with their technology, have forbidden undergoing procedures to attain immortality
23:58.40HachimanLongevity is fine but I imagine that Yamato citizens and politicians would view death as a necessary process
23:59.49Monet_ANd then we have the Emperor himself who can go "fuck the rules" because he is a grorious reader

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