IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140708

00:00.18WormyMonet:  Oblivion was a plot twist, it doesn't involve a nuclear holocaust
00:00.18LaggybirdsIn Katarian fiction, we have a superweapon missile called F.L.E.I.J.A whose explosion engulfed four thousand starships in real space flying in a loose-ish formation. What could it be?
00:00.42WormyHm
00:00.47LaggybirdsThe explosion was massive, round, and pink.
00:01.27Monet_2009 we had genocidal Romulans who while in a kerr-metric black hole decided to shave his heads and cover themselves in tatoos along with flying a ship that looks like a suspended image of a girder factory explosion.
00:01.51Monet_No wait better image
00:01.53WormyWell, it probably wasn't an explosion in a traditional sense.  It probably involved extremely intense radiation or projectiles being flung out at incredibly high velocities
00:02.14Monet_The offspring of a spider and a girder factory explosion.
00:02.16Wormythat could go through the four thousand vessels
00:03.01Monet_In Into Darkness we had Khan, probably one of the scariest, most ruthless and frightening individuals in Star Trek canon.
00:03.38TekDroidHm... That could work.
00:03.39WormyOh well, all that can stay in the new timeline lol
00:03.50LaggybirdsHm. That sounds like it could work, but: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131118163853/spore/images/b/ba/FLEIJA2.png
00:04.03Monet_Yeah is it me or does this noew timeline seem less...utopia-ish
00:04.15Monet_Although London looked really cool
00:04.17LaggybirdsMaybe it's a super-nuclear weapon?
00:04.35TekDroidMonet_: If you count STO as canon old timeline went to hell too.
00:05.17Monet_What about the nice stuff like the Romulans finding themselves a new homeworld?
00:05.18WormyWell, nuclear weapons in space would be very bright but there would no shockwave, no superheated atmosphere
00:06.21Wormyno fireball really, just a flash of electromagnetic radiation, especially gamma, x ray and infrared
00:06.40HachimanExplosions are less impressive in space hur
00:07.17Monet_I gues that depends on what you prefer; a blinding flash of light or a fireball
00:07.21WormyPerhaps it was a very large antimatter weapon that simply produced enough gamma radiation to destroy the shields of those ships
00:07.45WormyUnless you are are after something more exotic
00:08.03WormyHow is the weapon deployed, from hyperspace?
00:08.54LaggybirdsYeah, we were looking for something exotic, though packing that much antimatter into such a tight space would be dangerous and expensive enough to justify the weapon.
00:09.12TekDroidIt's was launched from a ship, uses a warp drive to sneak to a nesrby target, then detonate.
00:09.21LaggybirdsFrom real space into real space, though it's equipped with a warp drive.
00:09.27WormyMaybe it uses warp technology
00:09.43TekDroidThe idea I had had involved using a modified warp drive that creates a spatial distortion.
00:09.52WormyTo expand and contract spacetime in order to rip apart molecular structures
00:10.01TekDroidBut it didn't explain the flash
00:10.28Monet_Maybe this is why I'm growing tired of apocalypse stories lately: Because everyone from game studios to TV and film are sticking the idea int otheir plots
00:10.46TekDroidMonet_: pretty much
00:10.57WormyIt would certainly emit electromagnetic radiation the process
00:11.44Monet_Guadians of the Galaxy may be going the same way but I'm watching it because I'm a huge Marvel fanboy.
00:11.55WormyI can't explain the pink light however
00:12.29Wormyunless it has some mixed composition that fools the eye into thinking it is pink
00:12.47WormyWhich yes, suggests its not a warp bomb
00:12.59WormyRead more about those here http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/486309536aee1
00:13.07Monet_Then again I am drawn to Rocket the smart-mouthed gun-nut raccoon.
00:13.17AdmiralPandaRocket is awesome
00:14.20WormyThe other option is that it is a massive release of negative energy
00:14.48WormyRemember those non-phasic shields repulsive gravity shields?
00:15.12WormyThat might smash all those ships together
00:16.07WormyBut unless it creates a white hole, there would be no electromagnetic emission
00:18.51Monet_I know this film is using Star-Lord but his look keeps making me think of Corsair http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/0/77/148093-130344-corsair.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/37/Chris_Pratt_as_Star-Lord_poster.jpg/640px-Chris_Pratt_as_Star-Lord_poster.jpg
00:19.11Monet_First one is Corsair, second one is this film's Star-Lord.
00:19.17TekDroidlol
00:20.19HachimanCorsair reminds me a little of Snake
00:20.37Monet_That picture's a little msleading regarding his eyes
00:21.00Monet_Corsair does not wear an eyepatch nor does he have a mssing eye
00:21.01WormyLaggybirds, Tek:  It could be something a lot simpler, like a plasma hot enough to undergo nuclear fusion.  But you would need a way to contain the plasma ball so that it does not escape into the vacuum of space
00:21.21WormyTo keep it dense and hot enough
00:22.03LaggybirdsI think I have it.
00:22.21Monet_But the long hair and the headband, yeah, I can see the resemblance
00:22.32WormyMonet, Hachiman:  What do you think of Jupiter Ascending?
00:22.40HachimanNot seen it
00:22.49WormyNot sure if its out yet3
00:22.54Monet_The name vaguely rings a bell
00:22.55LaggybirdsWhat if it undergoes fusion for just a brief second, turns all of the composite materials in the bomb into iron, then tries to fuse the iron.
00:23.09Wormyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoCyL_Pqzu8
00:23.10LaggybirdsBoom.
00:24.04OluapPlayerhttp://s9.postimg.org/sb99d4dwt/r_E5_XIV6.jpg every neckbeard strives to be
00:24.05WormyAn artificial supernova?
00:24.16Wormybut without a star
00:24.17Monet_http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/JCBaggee/Uxm391pg20.jpg father and son moment.
00:24.32WormyWell you'd need a lot of mass for that
00:24.55WormyBut it might not need to fuse all the way to iron
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00:26.01Wormyhio
00:26.04The_RandomnessHello everyone
00:26.09LaggybirdsI was thinking the composite materials might be the elements behind iron
00:27.33AdmiralPandahi you
00:27.45WormyAh
00:28.19OluapPlayerrandum
00:29.31WormyBeyond iron, you are using up more energy to produce higher elements than is generated by the fusion reaction
00:32.33WormyBasically, fusion is impossible with elements higher than iron.  Heavier elements are created by neutron capture
00:33.27WormyThere are free varaities that I know of, P, R and S processes
00:34.53WormyBasically, all I think the weapon needs is to contain the plasma somehow in densities expected for minimum of nuclear fusion, only very high tier technology really has any chance of surviving those pressures and temperatures
00:35.50WormyIt would destroy the fleet, expand, and possibly even glow reddish-"pink" (so that it maybe looks pink but is not)
00:36.06Monet_Was it Yahtzee who started the "neckbeards with trilby" image?
00:36.16Monet_Or did he popularise it?
00:36.29LaggybirdsQ
00:36.52LaggybirdsWormy, I think we'll use that.
00:37.15TekDroidI like it.
00:37.45WormyHow to contain our plasma ball?  Maybe the warp bubble can, I'm not sure.  Or a very powerful form of shielding that the Katar races would have invested a great deal of energy to muster
00:37.51HachimanYahtzee?
00:38.23Monet_You know, from Zero Punctuation.
00:38.36WormyAh yes, ionised hydrogen glows reddish-pink in emission nebulae
00:38.44Wormyso that explains that
00:39.02HachimanOh
00:39.04TekDroidWell in current canon it's only been used twice, both my desperate factions in cases where economic feasibility isn't a priority.
00:39.27TekDroid*by
00:39.28HachimanWell I like Zero Punctuation hur
00:40.22Monet_I like him but I feel my reading voice gets a bit snarky after watching a few of his episodes
00:43.02WormyJupiter Ascending has an air of 50's sci-fi by the looks of it
00:50.03HachimanYou know, TTGL got a bit hard science-y in the later parts of the second season
00:50.37AdmiralPandaa little, but not much
00:50.39HachimanThe Anti-Spirals had weapons that altered probability so that they could bypass the shields of the Arc-Gurren
00:51.11OfficerJackal_Switching computer.
00:52.36AdmiralPandawell yes, but that strays more towards Future Fantasy for me
00:52.57The_RandomnessEh that sounds rather soft
00:53.01AdmiralPandaTTGL in general is the definition of "technology replaces magic as the means to make ridiculous impossible things happen"
00:53.22HachimanYet somehow still incorporates magic as a heavy influence
00:55.22Monet_I wonder about the plausability of spiral energy
00:56.05OluapPlayerhttp://33.media.tumblr.com/ef63b0e031f4df2a0667ca6cf864f41e/tumblr_n769pps3fe1qei28to1_500.png
00:56.07Monet_Seen a lot of sci-fi writers treat eneergy as a thing.
00:56.20WormyGrading SF for Realism http://www.kheper.net/topics/scifi/grading.html
00:56.26AdmiralPandaspiral energy is just force of will turned into a plot token
00:56.46Wormyspiral energy sounded metaphysical to me but maybe inspired by such exotic ideas like string theory
00:57.02Wormysince it involves 11 dimensions or something
00:57.08OluapPlayerhttp://www.tickld.com/cdn_image_thing/897241.png have an owl
00:57.43The_RandomnessThis is just me, but I'm rather skeptical when it comes to anything related to string theory
00:57.53AdmiralPandaWormy: It's literally just fighting spirit
00:58.12AdmiralPandatechnomagic fighting spirit
00:59.06WormyString theory is fantatic mathematics but we don't know if it actualy describes reality
00:59.36Monet_"spiral energy is fighting spirit", this a Japan thing?
00:59.50AdmiralPandabasically
01:00.05The_RandomnessWormy: So, basically, http://xkcd.com/171/ ?
01:01.46Wormyyeah
01:02.34WormyThere other approaches, Twistor theory, causal dynamical triangulations, etc.
01:03.03WormyActually you might like a physics lecture about this called Fashion, Faith and Fantasy
01:03.43Wormyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPnXsI5DUDY
01:03.51HachimanSpiral energy isn't *just* fighting spirit; it's both the force that drives change and evolution on a fundamental level and is also generated by change and evolution, which can be manipulated with sufficient force of will
01:04.04WormyGo 1 minute in or so
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01:04.33TybusenHm, it's busy here for 6 PM PST
01:04.34HachimanYou can't harvest it while in a rage because you're stuck in a state of mind and thinking; it's only when your mind is open and you're pushing toward a goal that you manage to manipulate and use Spiral energy
01:04.54OluapPlayerHachiman AdmiralPanda: http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1404773118089.png
01:05.06Hachimandaww
01:05.14AdmiralPandaNito just wanted a hug
01:05.24OluapPlayerKawaiito
01:05.55WormyRoger Penrose states that String Theory is fashion, quantum mechanics working as a complete description fath, and inflationary cosmology as fantasy
01:06.25WormyThough his lecture is much less so "attacking" as it sounds
01:06.27The_RandomnessHeh
01:06.36Monet_Hachiman: So it's yang energy?
01:06.51HachimanKinda yeah
01:07.27Monet_I can understand why too much may destroy the universe: Lack of balance, a tipping point whe nthings just become too chaotic to be sustainable
01:08.36WormyI cringe a bit when some quantum physicists think QM as it is describes reality without requiring changes.  Penrose argues, it doesn't explain how measurements and observer live in a more classical world, and secondly doesn't describe gravity
01:09.13WormyHe thinks quantum mechanics gives rise to a deeper theory
01:10.07WormyHe think inflationary cosmology as an ultimate theory is fantasy, because it ignores the strangeness of the universe's low entropy initial conditions
01:10.26WormyAnd string theory:  fashionable mathematics
01:10.46WormyBut he isn't some cook
01:11.09Wormyhis career http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Penrose
01:12.22TekDroidTo think we know everything or are even close is naive at best.
01:13.30WormyWell yes, David Deutsch on http://nautil.us/issue/2/uncertainty/why-its-good-to-be-wrong
01:16.38TybusenHachiman OluapPlayer: Have you two read the latest SnK chapter?
01:17.34HachimanYes
01:17.58TybusenI'm excited to see Hitch and Marlowe again
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01:22.13OfficcerJackalBack!
01:22.21TekDroidHey OfficerJackal
01:22.41AdmiralPandawell, I'm gonna get a bit of sleep
01:22.45AdmiralPandasee you guys later
01:23.23WormyI really do enjoy writings by David Deutsch
01:24.34Monet_Drawing Uriel's armour (again) makes me realise...were it not for advanced techniques to maintain it, the thing's probably way too expensive and valuable to send out onto the field
01:25.30Monet_There is just way too much gold detailing lol
01:25.39WormyI know I go on about epistemological principles of science, but because I am a fallibalist, how can I have faith as it were, in them?
01:25.50Wormya paradox
01:26.07WormyDavid Deutsch's answer http://pastie.org/private/amupdafq8owb40gk13im4w
01:26.54TybusenMonet_: Uriel - Screw practicality! Bitch, I'm made of gold!
01:26.54WormyThe scientific method as it stands has survived its own criticism
01:27.29Monet_Despite his distaste for nanotech, I think Uriel has a nanite colony within his armour to repair damage.
01:28.09Wormy“We are all alike, in our infinite ignorance.”  Karl Popper
01:30.04Wormy"nd as for knowing that “I” exist because I think—note that your knowledge that you think is only a memory of what you did think, a second or so ago, and that can easily be a false memory. (For discussions of some fascinating experiments demonstrating this, see Daniel Dennett’s book Brainstorms.) "  Deutch
01:30.38WormyDescartes fallibly owned on that one
01:33.15Wormytest
01:33.27DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Sector
01:33.34DrodoEmpireMirrorverse fiction
01:33.48DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Confederacy - And this is a faction within it
01:37.28Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10505421_556123467831466_6139337538255692838_n.jpg
01:39.22OluapPlayer[shrek joke]
01:39.42Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10533757_733505833378885_4647877966670987931_n.jpg
01:44.33Monet_Goodnight
01:45.24TekDroidDamnit, just remembered I wanted ask Monet something. XX
01:45.27TekDroid*XD
01:50.50Wormybye
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02:13.46KakashkaHi
02:13.53KakashkaHow are you
02:14.06KakashkaWhat are you doing?
02:15.07DrodoEmpireHey
02:15.12DrodoEmpireNothing at the moment
02:17.02DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cesterity%27s_Rifles - Another new oage
02:17.04DrodoEmpire*page
02:17.16DrodoEmpireSay, who are you on the wiki Kakashka?
02:17.19DrodoEmpireJust wondering?
02:17.21DrodoEmpire*.
02:21.39TekDroidWell my relation page got more complicated... I had allies sub-divided into various organizations, but since many are members of two (and the Drodo in all three) it kijda messes that up. ;/
02:21.43TekDroid*:/
02:21.50DrodoEmpirelol
02:21.53DrodoEmpireHmm...
02:22.12DrodoEmpireJust remove the denominations? Or make an "all" category?
02:22.27TekDroidAnd almost all FTC members are KSA members. XD
02:22.31TekDroidMaybe.
02:22.42DrodoEmpireThat, or just put the ones in multiple organizations in all of the multiple categories
02:22.51DrodoEmpireThat they belong to
02:23.35TekDroidThat's too redundant. I'll just add tags for the organizations.
02:23.57DrodoEmpireRight
02:26.15OfficcerJackal:/
02:27.04DrodoEmpireWhat is it?
02:27.11TekDroidNow we'll never know
02:27.50DrodoEmpireNo, I mean to OJ's face thing
02:32.43OfficcerJackalWell, Kkashka came, and then left.
02:33.55DrodoEmpireAh
02:36.30TekDroidWhat would you guys consider KSA's opinion of DI?
02:36.56TekDroidgiven their recent colonies and trade in the sector.
02:37.34DrodoEmpireDrodo are somewhat supportive or at the very least fine with the trade going on
02:39.53DrodoEmpirehttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Su_Yuanchun.jpg - Also, Qing general in armour, dated 1896
02:40.02DrodoEmpireJust found that interesting
02:40.50TekDroidlooks kinda photoshopped if you ask me.
02:41.10DrodoEmpireNot really.
02:41.31TekDroidAll the clothing except the hat looks the wrong shadow
02:41.34DrodoEmpireAnd also; What motivation would one have to photoshop a Chinese general onto anything at all?
02:42.20DrodoEmpireCameras where of pretty pisspoor quality back then; And there is historical evidence to back up this photograph
02:42.42DrodoEmpireBy the late 19th to early 20th century, the Qing where extremely backwards.
02:43.25TekDroidI know that.
02:44.39DrodoEmpireI don't know about it being photoshopped. :P
02:44.43DrodoEmpireAt any rate
02:45.26OfficcerJackalWell, cameras back then did have a tendency to act weird and give weird photographs.
02:45.43DrodoEmpireThey also gave out a flash, as do many modern cameras
02:45.54DrodoEmpireThat could have produced odd shadowing or removed them altogether
02:46.09DrodoEmpireJust a second, very intense light source
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03:16.45TekDroidAnd that's how I got banned from Sweden
03:17.12TekDroidOh, hello infobot
03:19.31TekDroidAlso, updated this section. [[Fiction:Katar Sector Alliance#Diplomacy]] DrodoEmpire Laggybirds OfficerJackal
03:19.34morgothBotPyTekDroid meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Katar_Sector_Alliance#Diplomacy
03:19.44DrodoEmpireAh, excellent
03:20.21TekDroidMostly updates and formatting changes.
03:21.35TekDroidOne thing I hope to tackle at some point is the Katar Sector history section. It's so far behind it doesn't even mention the Tasan Crisis.
03:22.32OfficcerJackalYeah, I think it looks good.
03:24.26TekDroidAlso fixed [[Fiction:Katar Sector#Wormholes]] a bit. OfficerJackal, you'll need to edit yours.
03:24.26morgothBotPyTekDroid meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Katar_Sector#Wormholes
03:27.32OfficcerJackalOh, right.
03:29.22TekDroidI set up the basic, leaving the details for you.
03:36.30OfficcerJackalAlright, I'll get around to it once the story get's started up in Watchta.
03:36.45OfficcerJackalOfcourseafterpeoplewritetheirsectionsontheWatchtaCataclysmpage.
03:36.59TekDroidnp. No need to rush yet.
03:39.04TekDroid[[Fiction:Farengeto Republic#History]] Is this too long? I'm questioning if I should split if off into a separate page and put a more concise version.
03:39.04morgothBotPyTekDroid meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Farengeto_Republic#History
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03:54.31TekDroidOfficerJackal: Do you think the Farengeto history section is too long?
03:59.41TekDroid~test
03:59.42infobotextra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny
04:04.27OfficcerJackalBack!
04:05.03OfficcerJackalTekDroid: History is section is fine, it's not too long by a long shot.
04:08.30TekDroidI'll have to update it too. A few retcons abd such to add, like the Farengeto joining the OL.
04:08.41OfficcerJackalYeah.
04:24.57TekDroidI'm going to head out for the night.
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05:59.03LawfulInsaneHello.
06:34.49ImpyDroid2Tybusen: Hi, I am back from Hungary
06:36.00TybusenWelcome back, how much sexually explicit merchandise did you buy
06:38.05TybusenImpyDroid2: Also, been doing things with Space China while you were away
06:38.20ImpyDroid2None but spending two weeks with a half-Hungarian hentai fangirl felt roughly the same
06:40.21TybusenGood ol Hungary
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06:44.50LawfulInsaneDamn misclick
06:49.58ImpyDroid2http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Chiang_Wei-kuo_Nazi_1.jpg wait what
06:50.01ImpyDroid2afsdafafafafafaf
06:53.03LawfulInsane?
06:53.26ImpyDroid2Chinese Nazi Officer
06:53.31LawfulInsaneOh.
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07:00.18GhelaeHello.
07:00.19LawfulInsaneHello
07:14.12ImpyDroid2Tybusen: So, what exactly have you planned?
07:14.40TybusenBusty Chinese female is now in charge of the Orion League
07:15.10TybusenEAC will get Rest of Humanity-senpai to notice them
07:15.28LawfulInsaneXDDD
07:15.47TybusenAnd the North Koreans are still testing nukes
07:16.09LawfulInsaneReal life or wiki?
07:16.20ImpyDroid2POWER, UNLIIIIMITED POWER
07:16.56ImpyDroid2Actually wair, shouldn't it be seonbae and not senpai?
07:17.49ImpyDroid2Or xiānbèi
07:17.50Tybusenshe ain't Korean u
07:18.00ImpyDroid2Neither she is Japanese hur
07:18.57LawfulInsaneStill trying to decide on a name
07:19.05TybusenImpyDroid2: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zhen_Liu This is her page by the way if didn't see it yet
07:20.42ImpyDroid2is gud
07:21.00LawfulInsaneI still can't decide on a name.
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07:25.28LawfulInsaneDAMN COMPUTER CRASHING
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07:53.28LawfulInsaneHello
08:07.25Liquid_Inkhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/UN_Resolution_regarding_the_territorial_integrity_of_Ukraine.svg I think this picture gives an accurate representation of Russia's modern sphere of influence.
08:11.39LawfulInsaneWhat do the colours mean?
08:13.30ImpyDroid2Lemme see
08:14.05Liquid_InkYou know that whole Russia annexing Crimea thing? That is a map of the vote on the resolution saying "Crimea is Ukrainian not Russian"
08:14.30Liquid_InkGreen = For, Red = Against, Yellow = Abstained, Blue = Absent
08:14.43Liquid_InkGrey = Non-UN
08:15.18ImpyDroid2Everyone hates us hur
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08:16.13LawfulInsanehur
08:16.16LawfulInsanehELLO
08:16.19LawfulInsaneSorry caps
08:16.25AngrydroidHi!
08:16.34Liquid_InkAngrydroid: [18:07] <Liquid_Ink> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/UN_Resolution_regarding_the_territorial_integrity_of_Ukraine.svg I think this picture gives an accurate representation of Russia's modern sphere of influence.
08:16.56Liquid_InkYou seem interested in this sought of stuff. Unless I completely misunderstand you
08:18.07Liquid_InkWhich is a distinct possibility
08:18.39AngrydroidWhat's the key on that map?
08:18.58ImpyDroid2Israel seems to be in favour of Russia on the matter in Crimea
08:24.04AngrydroidLiquid_Ink: I love that stuff. :)
08:24.23Liquid_Ink[18:14] <Liquid_Ink> You know that whole Russia annexing Crimea thing? That is a map of the vote on the resolution saying "Crimea is Ukrainian not Russian"
08:24.26Liquid_Ink[18:14] <Liquid_Ink> Green = For, Red = Against, Yellow = Abstained, Blue = Absent
08:28.34ImpyDroid2Personally
08:28.52ImpyDroid2I only hope Putin does not go stupid and try to mimic Hitler
08:29.55TybusenIf Putin tries to pull a Hitler now we'll see it coming from a mile away
08:30.07ImpyDroid2Aye
08:30.23ImpyDroid2Speaking of this
08:30.35ImpyDroid2For some reason, everyone in Hungary thought I was Kazakh
08:30.59ImpyDroid2These people have inferior potassium clearly
08:31.29LawfulInsaneInferior potassium?
08:34.58ImpyDroid2Borat reference
08:35.12LawfulInsaneOh. I don't normally get references, sorry.
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08:49.29Liquid_Inkdevours Imperios.
08:49.36Imperiosis made of lead
08:50.39ImperiosLiquid_Ink and Tybusen: http://img.1001mem.ru/posts/1707000/1706887.jpg
08:51.02Liquid_InkWut
08:51.17Liquid_InkJust so my sister understands this when I show it to her.
08:51.23TybusenKazakh Iron Man, I presume
08:52.07Liquid_InkUnless there's no meaning beyond Kazakh Iron Patriot
08:52.33ImperiosJust the Kazakh Iron Man hur
08:54.58ImperiosSpeaking of which Liquid_Ink
08:55.03Imperioshttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140707185849/spore/images/1/1f/Aigul_of_the_Cold_Water_J%C3%BCz.png Look what I made
08:55.12Liquid_InkOoooh
08:55.17ImperiosI don't like the mouth but I think I did well with her outfit
08:56.13Liquid_InkShe looks old
08:59.12ImperiosI guess
08:59.56Liquid_InkI mean the mouth does
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09:11.43LawfulInsaneHello
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10:26.49AdmiralPandahello all
10:27.39Monet_Hello
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10:49.07AdmiralPandahi
10:49.34OluapPlayerhi
10:50.52Monet_Hello
10:53.31ImperiosHello Mon, hello Panda
10:53.39ImperiosHello Oluap
10:53.51ImperiosSorry for not saying hi hur
10:54.39ImperiosLiquid_Ink: BTW Aigul is supposed to be the Karacay's representative in the Table of Governors
10:55.13ImperiosDo you want to write her section on the Empire's page?
10:57.04Imperioshttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140707185849/spore/images/1/1f/Aigul_of_the_Cold_Water_J%C3%BCz.png  that's her model BTW (that's to those who have not seen her before)
10:58.59Monet_http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/0/1/3/125013_v1.jpg the week as forecasted by Disney.
11:02.37Liquid_InkImperios: Perhaps later?
11:02.51Monet_This picture makes a lot of sense. Look at Hercules, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, The Little Mermaid, Aladdin and Sleeping Beauty and tell me what the weather and mood is like at the villain battle.
11:05.52Monet_I suppose disney are the codifiers for setting a battle during a thunderstorm
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11:07.36JepardiHi
11:12.58ImperiosHi
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11:24.54WormyHi3
11:25.51GhelHello.
11:34.14WormyRed Bull doesn't sound that good for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cih-OU2NiO8
11:34.18Jepardihttp://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aRQY4m2_460sa.gif
11:34.41WormyI don't think I'll be having it
11:36.17Monet_I decided to do some research as t owhere this "the earth is flat" nonsense may have come from. And I found this article that may be a hint http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=JefVirg.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=17&division=div1 (near the end of paragraph 285, look for mention of Galileio)
11:36.51Wormywhy name yourself like an e number http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EJ-10#EJ-10
11:37.06Monet_Thomas Jefferson wrote in his book "Notes on the state of Virginia" that he believed Galileio was trying to prove the Earth was round to a flat-earth opinionated government.
11:38.39WormyThe flat earth society website contradicts itself somewhere
11:39.22Monet_One of the early affirmations for the myth came from Jefferson not quite rememebring history right
11:40.10AdmiralPandathe earth is flat was a simple observation people made
11:40.18AdmiralPandathey had no reason to believe otherwise, so why would they?
11:40.57AdmiralPandaand wasn't Gallileio trying to prove that the earth revolved around the sun?
11:41.16Monet_He was, which was the thing I was trying to point out
11:41.29AdmiralPandaright
11:41.48Monet_The popularisation may have come from how he's treated by some as one of the patron saints of America.
11:42.33AdmiralPanda…how?
11:43.06Monet_He's one of the founding fathers. He has a memorial in Washington
11:44.15Monet_To say anyhing bad about them is a sure-fire way to start a flame war in the states.
11:44.51AdmiralPandawait you're talking about Thomas, I was talking about Gallileio
11:44.56WormyOne thing I don't get.  Why the governments of all the world would know Earth is flat and guard the ice walls.  Well shouldn't such a secret be of huge, high political value?  Like in the cold war, one could imagine such a secret being a weapon
11:45.02AdmiralPandaI was like WTF? how the hell is Gallileio a founding father?
11:45.42Monet_Yeah I silently moved focus to Jefferson lol
11:47.14Monet_Jefferson makes a mistaken claim in one of his publications, being vindicated in the States, his word may have been taken to heart fairly quickly.
11:47.25Monet_Oh yeah and then there's an 1860 publication on COlumbus
11:47.57Monet_About how Columbus persevered to gather the patronage to set off on a voyage ot prove the world was round.
11:48.47ImperiosAdmiralPanda: Funnily enough, theories that the Earth is round, not flat have been discussed for a long time actually
11:49.19ImperiosThere were Greek and Chinese phiolosophers and astrologers who argued that the world is round back during the antiquity
11:49.26WormyErastophenese
11:49.40Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes
11:49.43Monet_Thing is...Columbus was a bit of an idiot.
11:51.00Monet_He thought he could sail to China by going the way of the Atlantic despite the true size of the earth being known to scholars for a long time. He'd have been sailing over 8000 miles of open ocean.
11:51.42Monet_And when he arrived in the carribean, he was cinvinced he'd landed in India.
11:54.00Monet_sorry, 1820s
11:54.27GhelHow long would it have taken us to discover the New World if it weren't for his ignorance?
11:55.22Monet_Well, Ferdinand Magellan started a voyage of circumnavigation 16 years after Columbus died
11:56.46GhelMaybe not too long then. Unless the discovery of the Americas was a factor in the decision to attempt a circumnavigation.
11:57.25Monet_Hmm, also Amerigo Vespuuci's voyages in Brazil and the carribean were an attempt to disprove that Columbus had landed in India and China
11:57.41Monet_Vespucci's*
12:00.41Monet_So logically speaking Amerigo could have disproved that Columbus had in fact landed in India (Vespucci's voyages were financed by the Spanish and Portuguese crowns so its not like his efforts would have faded into obscurity)
12:03.38GhelOf course, if Columbus had never landed anywhere, there'd be no need to prove that he didn't land somewhere else.
12:05.18Monet_There seems to be a whole slew of 19th century books that propose the "widespread" view of a flat earth, half of these are jabs at the medieval church largely because hating the Church in the 18th century was a thing among scholars.
12:05.31Monet_19th century*
12:06.19Monet_These misconceptions were either unintentional or fabricated to make the senior clergly look li a bunch of backward morons.
12:07.29Monet_Actually these same authors seem to be the ones who also spread the idea that the middle ages were a time when science and invention was tantamount to heresy.
12:09.05Monet_Andrew Dickinson White published two books, "The Warfare of Science" and the double-volume "History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom" exaggerate the church's attitude to science.
12:11.01Monet_And was one of the caalysts for the common image of the Dark Ages being a time where everyone thought the Earth was flat, the Church was violently abhorrent to rational thought and intellectualls were persecuted.
12:11.24Monet_And invention being an concept of Satan
12:13.41Monet_Talk about history being written by the winners.
12:13.57dromWormy: http://i.imgur.com/KkUB0dL.jpg
12:14.59WormyWhoooowee, would ya look at that!
12:17.33Monet_"When Columbus lived, people thought that the earth was flat. They believed the Atlantic Ocean to be filled with monsters large enough to devour their ships, and with fearful waterfalls over which their frail vessels would plunge to destruction. Columbus had to fight these foolish beliefs in order to get men to sail with him. He felt sure the earth was round." >>an introduction within the 1919 schoolbook "The Boys' and Girls' Reade
12:18.03Monet_The introduction itself was for a COlumbus Day suggested reading list
12:18.46Monet_This was but part of a trend during the first half of the 20th century.
12:19.47Monet_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_We_Go and then there's this Warner Bros. gem
12:24.05Monet_So the flat earth myth was born from misconceptions, misunderstanding of the intentions of people in the past and then nurtured by aggressive derogatory portrayals of the Church and commemorative appreciation for Christopher COlumbus.
12:24.59Monet_And it just spiralled out of control from there
12:26.08Monet_These Flat Earth communities think they're being romantics for holding on to "old truths" are all deluded.
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12:29.33Monet_Although the history of the flat earth argument does indicate one thing.
12:29.42Monet_VIctorian scientists were pretty stuck-up
12:30.20Monet_Then again there are sicentists today who can come off as being a bit stuck-up
12:31.23Monet_There appears to be a definite correlation between percieved intelligence and arrogence.
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13:05.21Monet_http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-life-lessons-you-learn-from-being-bullied_p2/  "Lots of bullying victims experience feelings of rage and frustration. According to (a washington Post) article, a third of bullied gifted students alone harbor violent thoughts, and over time some of them are bound to give in to their impulses."
13:05.39dromApprently a Swedish man got the attention of possessing one home-made and a real crossbows. Aswell waving with two big knives in the public. The motive was "hate of vampires".
13:05.40Monet_Hmm this might explain my interest in grisly fiction whenever I get frustrated.
13:06.14dromGeez, people are getting stranger and stranger nowadays.
13:08.33Monet_Wait...
13:09.39Monet_Maleus was a decent guy who one day ended up standing before the wrong people (the COngregation), fell in with a bad crow, got killed, endured a percieved eternity of torment in Hell and came out as a bloodthirsty demon prince with a thirst for Inquisitor blood.
13:09.53Monet_crowd*
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13:10.48Monet_And he was conceived from a picture I had made to vent some rage. Ho-ly shit what have I ended up creating
13:10.54HachimanHai
13:10.56Monet_Hi
13:11.32dromhai
13:11.55GhelHello.
13:12.22ImperioshI hACHIMAN!
13:12.25ImperiosHi Hachiman!
13:13.53Monet_I think I already mentioned there's a part of me in Maleus but damn I must have missed this connection...
13:15.49Monet_Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Maleus in case you don't know who I mean, I think the page was created while you were in Hungary
13:16.02Monet_Romania, sorry
13:20.41HachimanI wonder if Hachi could be considered a transhuman
13:20.53HachimanTranshuman/posthuman
13:21.12AdmiralPandahai hachiman
13:21.16Monet_Posthuman definitely due to his robotics
13:21.23ImperiosHe seems interested
13:21.42Imperios*interesting
13:21.50ImperiosHachiman: Posthuman I guess
13:21.50Monet_That arm and eye of his must be linked to his brain via implants in his prain or spinal cord.
13:21.56ImperiosActually wait
13:22.00ImperiosHe has an AI in his brain
13:22.04ImperiosOr in his body not sure
13:22.06HachimanThat was retconned out
13:22.08ImperiosOh
13:22.11Imperiosdum
13:22.16Monet_He did?
13:24.17HachimanHe did but I retconned it out
13:24.22HachimanWanted to make him more special
13:24.33Monet_Anyway yeah I'd consider him a posthuman due to the bionics he has and perhaps a few of his rabbit traits.
13:25.45Monet_And I think he'll become transhuman by the time he becomes an angel-god-bunnyman
13:27.11ImperiosI think transhuman implies technological transformation, not supernatural
13:28.33Monet_The general modern society term probably. But modern science has yet to explain what ascension to angelhood is.
13:28.35GhelThat's mainly because transhumanism is talked about in a real-world or realistic sci-fi context in which supernatural transformations are not considered plausible.
13:29.00Hachimanohai Ghel
13:29.04HachimanYou've been quiet recently
13:29.08Ghel~give Hachiman a cookie
13:29.10infobotACTION gives Hachiman a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up.
13:38.56Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10417767_572702406181095_8822213519711801576_n.jpg
13:39.25OluapPlayerjuses ded 4 ur sims
13:44.07Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10437680_733364516726350_4019976174937343037_n.jpg
13:45.30OluapPlayerWhat was McDonalds thinking when they made that
13:46.00OluapPlayerI remember they even mocked the reactions to it by making a picture of two of these boxes laughing at a computer with a caption saying "Tough crowd"
13:46.08Hachimanolol
13:47.46Monet_I'm not sure what gets into the heads of coprorate marketing.
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13:49.47OluapPlayerDamnit
13:50.03Monet_THen agian look at Ronald Mc.Donald
13:50.05Monet_McDOnald*
13:51.13Monet_He's either incredibly quirky or rather creepy
13:52.56Monet_Most of the Ronald McDOnald pictures I see have him pulling a variation of this face http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/110201.gif , but what kind of face is it?
13:54.19ImperiosHi Oluap
13:54.29ImperiosWait
13:54.32ImperiosWhen did Oluap appear?
13:54.56Monet_Oluap is our resident Brazillian ninja.
13:55.23HachimanFunny cuz Brazil has a large number of Japanese residents
13:56.09OluapPlayerunsheathes his grorious nippon steel katana unfolded a gorillon times
13:56.09Monet_And a bunch of oriental martial arts evolved in Brazil.
13:57.19Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/10525793_335697569917964_8885242320403969401_n.jpg
13:57.37OluapPlayer>implying
13:58.16Imperioshttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_K0_DmTeKr_o/Sf7GH4E3uyI/AAAAAAAAAgQ/6WJQdw_M19Q/s1600/ninja_babe4.jpg I googled for "Brazilian ninja" and I got this
13:58.21ImperiosThis is now OluapPlayer's true form
13:58.33Monet_My sides!
13:58.46OluapPlayerGoddamnit that was supposed to be a secret
13:58.53OluapPlayerNow everyone will know
13:59.06Hachimanc nao u know y i am da way i is
14:00.37ImperiosThis reminds me, we had a few teenage Latin American and British neighbours
14:00.41ImperiosIn Hungary
14:00.58ImperiosFor some reason they thought Saint-Petersburg was in Asia
14:01.37Monet_Well...
14:01.54Monet_I think there's a bit of a blur as to where Europe stops and Asia begins
14:02.10ImperiosBut Saint-Petersburg is *strictly* in Europe hur, it borders Finland
14:02.16OluapPlayerCheck where the longswords start becoming katanas
14:02.17OluapPlayerdats wher
14:02.51ImperiosIt's even called "the Window to Europe" poetically
14:03.38ImperiosI assume that they didn't know where it was, so when they saw me and I stated that I am from Saint-Petersburg they made a (fairly logical, mind you) assumption
14:03.49Monet_OlaupPlayer: That makes me wonder what they use for swords in China
14:04.05ImperiosMonet_: They're called dai or something
14:04.13Monet_Because I myself an mot sure
14:04.14ImperiosBut they are more European-ish
14:04.17ImperiosAs in, symmetrical
14:04.30Imperiosjian, that is the word
14:04.43OluapPlayerswordu
14:05.09Monet_http://casiberia.com/img/prod/sh2313a.jpg it does look a lot like a gladius
14:05.11Imperioshttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Jian_%28sword%29.jpg The Anti-Weeaboo Sword
14:05.25Monet_I ninja u
14:06.14Monet_I get Oluap's joke but it seems katanas are restricted to Japan
14:06.25Monet_Monogls I think used something akin to a scimitar
14:06.28GhelThat just means that Japan is the only country in Asia.
14:06.35OluapPlayerOf course
14:06.44OluapPlayerAs you all know I don't really know weapons at all
14:07.00OluapPlayerI only learned there are more kinds of swords than longswords when I started playing Dark Souls
14:07.08Hachimandats dum
14:07.10ImperiosMonet_: Well
14:07.22HachimanSurely you knew what a katana was before playing Dark Souls hur
14:07.25ImperiosSome Korean swords are katana-like
14:07.32HachimanTo be fair you don't get samurai-like armour anywhere else
14:07.41OluapPlayerWell yeah
14:07.49OluapPlayerStill what matters is that it's a sword
14:08.20Monet_So...what about scimitars?
14:08.50OluapPlayerI didn't really know the difference between a normal sword and a curved one until recently
14:08.55Monet_Ahh I see
14:09.07ImperiosOne thing I find funny in Japanese history is that there was a period in it when Japan invaded Korea with swords and stuff while Koreans had http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1395/56/1395567993980.jpg fucking missile launchers
14:09.24ImperiosIt's like IRL Warhammer 40k
14:09.28OluapPlayerTo me they were all just swords
14:09.33OluapPlayerAnd katanas were just japanese swords
14:09.36Monet_Research is nerdy but it does help a lot.
14:09.51OluapPlayerI didn't have much interest in it
14:09.54OluapPlayerI do now though
14:10.04ImperiosJapanese - FOR THE EMPEROOOOOR | Korean - FOR THE GREATER GOOD
14:10.06Monet_Imperios: Won't those things' accuracy on par with a blunderbus?
14:10.13Monet_Weren't*
14:10.21ImperiosThe first battlecry even fits the real life hur
14:10.26ImperiosMonet_: That's why there were lots of them and they were explosive
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14:10.59OluapPlayerThis reminds me, I watched that video you mentioned about the realism in Dark Souls combat
14:11.05OluapPlayerThe guy makes some pretty good points
14:11.38Monet_OluapPLayer: I think Panda linked a similr (or perhaps the same) video not too long ago.
14:11.43Monet_Oh wait
14:11.47Monet_I know the video you mean
14:12.44Monet_When it comes to combat, practicality is preferred over flamboyancy because flamboyancy can easily get you killed
14:13.55OluapPlayerIt makes sense for the character to look like an amateur in combat because as far as we know, he/she really is an amateur
14:13.55Monet_That and a longsword heavier than 2kg is stupid and if competence with a 20kg greatsword is an indicator of anything, its that the wielder would be a horror with a normal greatsword.
14:14.28Monet_I noticed in youtube comments that the PC is slower if they miss.
14:14.43OluapPlayerSome weapons downright say a human would never be able to lift them without supernatural strength
14:14.46Monet_SO if an attack misses, it stays out slightly longer.
14:15.19ImperiosMonet_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TsfcJz99n4 More GW2 hentai!
14:17.51Monet_From what Panda has told me, the trash mob or miniboss fights are more accurate than the boss fights: Battles rarely last as long as five minutes which is ironically the minimum length of time my brother considers a fight to be a full-on fight scene.
14:18.26OluapPlayerA fight against a trash mob lasts seconds at best
14:18.33Monet_Exactly
14:19.07Monet_But hand-to-hand combat is physically and mentally taxing.
14:19.25OluapPlayerIt's hard to compare with the bosses because most of them are giants/demons/dragons/whatever
14:20.01Monet_The general idea for a duel (between humans and perhaps certai nanimals) is to get past your opponent's defences and position yourself for a killing blow.
14:20.21Monet_Unfortunately in game terms, that's boring.
14:20.42Monet_Also it would get thep layer killed quickly
14:20.52OluapPlayerYeah that's not fun
14:22.03Monet_So rather than how it normally goes, msot games use a health bar system and even attacks that would deabilitate or get you killed you in real life like slashing the legs or stabbing the sotmach will take off a chunk of health in games.
14:23.16Monet_Also its easier to program.
14:23.38OluapPlayerThat's a problem with Dark Souls bosses, you beat most of them by slashing at their legs
14:23.52OluapPlayerDark Souls 2 especially if a big offender
14:23.56OluapPlayeris*
14:24.09AdmiralPandathis reminds me of one thing that really niggled me with MGR: you cut a MG Ray's weapon pod off, and everyone assumes it's dead
14:24.37AdmiralPandayou caused no damage to the central processing unit, or even its core body, but it's dead because the russian guy says it is
14:24.40HachimanWell you also throw the damn thing
14:24.51OluapPlayerIS DED DA
14:25.20AdmiralPandathis is true, but that's not going to cripple something that was designed for combat, and is clearly capable of resisting forces like that because it appears by jumping out of the ocean
14:25.26Monet_Even if you're facing something as big as an elephant, if you slice the muscle tissue around the shins, the thing falls over. There's not much keeping it upright.
14:25.48AdmiralPandaI wasn't surprised at all when it came back for round two
14:26.00HachimanTo be fair the Ray wasn't Raiden's concern
14:26.08HachimanHe was in a rush to get to the PM
14:26.13OluapPlayerThe only boss in Dark Souls which actually makes sense to attack the legs is the Iron Golem in 1, if you attack his ankles enough he falls over and becomes defenseless
14:26.18Monet_Anyone who's pulled a hamstring muscle would know that you can barely walk afterwards
14:26.23AdmiralPandait wasn't, but that doesn't change how silly it is that the russian guy thought it was defeated, and was surprised when it came back
14:26.41Monet_Well "defeated" doesn't always mean "dead"
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14:26.53HachimanRaiden probably already knew it wasn't actually dead
14:26.56OluapPlayerdumba
14:27.00HachimanHe has had experiences with Rays before
14:27.06Technobliteratorya dad
14:27.06AdmiralPandahis exact words were something along the lines of "What? It still lives?"
14:27.21HachimanI'm surprised Raiden doesn't have PTSD from how often he has to fight Rays
14:27.29HachimanI do wonder if he has PTSD though
14:27.32Technobliteratorhe has PTSD
14:27.36Technobliteratorhe was a child soldier
14:27.58Monet_He has night terrors. One of the more serious symptoms of PTSD.
14:28.24Monet_I recall Rose saying that she found it impossible to sleep in the same bed as him.
14:28.33Monet_He's had PTSD ever since he was introduced.
14:29.04ImperiosHi Jo
14:30.47Technobliteratorhi
14:32.05Monet_I remember mentioning ever since the first incarnation of the DI, military doctrine states to activate an EMP over a target city, achieve air superiority then deploy troops on rooftops via VTOL dropships to flush out any hostiles inside buildings.
14:32.46Monet_Hot-dropping looks cool especially when you do it on tower blocks, I wanted ot make sure it didn't look "flashy but stupid"
14:37.36OluapPlayerMonet_: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ it's out
14:38.11Monet_You mean....this is...
14:38.40Monet_A new arc
14:39.20OluapPlayerThe dawn of a new dorf
14:41.18Monet_"Change one line and the world erupts in no-quarter knife fights apparently... hopefully we've emerged from that."
14:41.44Monet_The amount of lol in this statement is overwhelming
14:43.27Monet_I'm going to put off downloading until Mayday and Dwarf Terapist are updated to a compatable version.
14:44.00Monet_A cannae play mah dorfs in ASCII graphics unfortunately.
14:44.33OluapPlayerIt does hurt my eyes a bit
14:45.01OluapPlayerOr rather, a lot
14:45.15OluapPlayerI already find hard to look at the site background
14:47.00Monet_Wait I'm sudden;y curious, what's your current world and fortress caled?
14:47.26AdmiralPandawait, you don't have to play DF in text form?
14:48.32Monet_Nope. There are several texture packs out that turn ASCII characters into icons
14:48.34OluapPlayerI kinda deleted my game so I forgot
14:49.10Monet_Awww
14:52.03AdmiralPandahm, I might play DF knowing this
14:52.12AdmiralPandaare the texture packs included or are they 3rd party?
14:53.03Monet_3rd party
14:53.15AdmiralPandaright
14:53.30Monet_But they're relatively easy toAlthough the texture back I have I have yet to encounter instability
14:53.33ImperiosMonet_: Gah, I hate these guys
14:53.34AdmiralPandacould you link me to the appropriate things to download?
14:53.49Monet_Imperios: Who?
14:54.10Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4tDTe9sOdU That guy with a pony on his avatar
14:54.31Imperios"RUSSIA SUPPORTS THE NEO-NAZIS IN UKRAINE RUSSIA IS A FASCIST STATE AND IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE BRAINWASHED BY PUTIN"
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14:54.46Quark8Hello.
14:54.50ImperiosHi Quark
14:55.44HachimanHe has a pony as his avatar, I think that's enough explanation as you need
14:55.58HachimanBronies are below average IQ after all
14:56.11AdmiralPandaExcuse me?
14:56.37ImperiosHachiman: Ahem
14:56.38AdmiralPandaI mean sure there are the crazies, but to say they're dumb because they watch a show
14:56.41ImperiosYes
14:56.49Imperios...Then again I do not watch it anymore
14:56.52Monet_http://goblinart.pl/vg-eng/df.php https://code.google.com/p/dwarftherapist/downloads/detail?name=DwarfTherapist-0.6.12b05.dmg&can=2&q= here's the stuff I use, but they're not updated for 0.40
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14:57.46TekDroidHello
14:57.53AdmiralPandaMonet: So what are those two? I understand the first is the texture pack, what's the other one?
14:58.24Quark8Hi TekDroid.
14:58.38Monet_The second one allows you to see a dwarf's mood, what they're doing and what skills they have as well as tell them what skills to take up
14:58.44AdmiralPandaah
14:59.07AdmiralPandaright, and where do I get the core game from/which version do I need?
14:59.15Monet_It's REALLY handy because in vanilla DF if you have no dwarf with the skill, something won't get done.
14:59.40ImperiosAdmiralPanda: Hm... you were a brony once, weren't you?
14:59.42Monet_http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/older_versions.html here are previous versions
15:01.11Monet_Well at least this brony is understanding what people were saying
15:01.13AdmiralPandaImperios: if you define a Brony as a man outside of the show's target demographic that enjoys the show, then I still am
15:01.37ImperiosI no longer enjoy it, it think it has degraded a bit
15:02.08ImperiosThough I still watch it from times to times when I am bored
15:02.44Monet_Imperios: I've mentioned here before I find it a bit generalising to assume EVERY brony who watches MLP is either mentally deficiant or should be in an insane asylum.
15:02.56ImperiosYa
15:03.43Monet_its an age old tactic for disregarding any fandom.
15:04.09Monet_Asume every fan is like the fans who won't shut the hell up.
15:04.13ImperiosHachiman: Actually, now that I checked the censuses, it turns out that bronies have higher-than-average education level
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15:06.58OfficerJackalHello!
15:07.05ImperiosHi
15:07.59Monet_Not every LotR fan wants to emulate Frodo or Legolas, not every trekker can speak Klingon, not every Whovian considers a five-metre-long scarf the height of fashion, not every Firefly fan wants ot burn Rupert Murdoch at the stake and not every DC fanboy wants to sleep with Wonder Woman, Superman or Bruce Wayne.
15:08.06ImperiosYes
15:08.40HachimanImperios: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10425371_254851104712253_8056955061877447852_n.jpg Your comment reminded me of this
15:09.19ImperiosI am talking not about wisdom or something, but actual education level
15:09.29AdmiralPandaMonet_: So which version do I need of DF?
15:09.31Monet_I've been a fan of Star Trek since I was a child and I cannot for the life of me emulate the hand signal for "live long and prosper"
15:09.40ImperiosMonet_: ...wait
15:09.56ImperiosI only watched a few Star Trek episodes and movies
15:09.57Monet_AdmiralPanda: For those I advise 0.34.11.
15:09.58ImperiosAnd I do that all the time
15:10.24ImperiosSeriously, people that know me probably associate the Vulcan salute with me as opposed to Star Trek
15:10.57Monet_The sign used to anny me back in secondary school because other people including my brother could do it but I couldn't.
15:11.03Monet_annoy*
15:11.13ImperiosThough the actual Vulcan salute actually has Jewish origins
15:11.23ImperiosIt's the greeting of the Jewish clerics
15:11.26ImperiosCohens or something
15:11.41ImperiosKohens, yes
15:11.52Imperioshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohen
15:12.11ImperiosHm
15:12.15ImperiosWho wants to RP anything?
15:12.45ImperiosMonet_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQlMPKInplQ Have you seen this?
15:12.56Monet_Imperios: I have time for something
15:13.24Monet_You posted it a little earlier but I was a little busy with art
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15:18.41ImperiosA-and... anyone else?
15:19.08AdmiralPandamaybe
15:21.47Monet_Aww, July 15th is when subbed SWTOR players get access to their first free stronghold
15:23.50Imperiosrite, I'll wait for other people to react
15:24.16ImperiosIn the meantime, does anyone of you know any fitting theme for Javina?
15:26.13OluapPlayerWe could do shirtless stuff
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15:28.48DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
15:29.23Quark8Hey.
15:31.50Monet_Damnit. Need ot dart off to get some eats, i'll try not to be too long
15:32.58Monet_We can always do shirtless when I get back
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15:35.46ImperiosHi
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15:51.04OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Son_of_Gotla#To_the_Death character development and drunk Zazane
15:51.46HachimanAye read that
16:01.42AdmiralPandais it just me or are all Zazane secretly gripped by dirty minds, but they just don't show it?
16:01.58HachimanZazane love sex just as much as they love fighting really
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16:03.28Quark8Hello.
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16:03.44Wormyhi
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16:04.13Monet_OluapPlayer Imperios Okay I'm back and with fud.
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16:04.27WormyLol, goldfish memory
16:05.04Imperiosfoooood
16:08.06Monet_I can SHirtless now
16:09.04Cuttlefish_wut
16:10.08Wormyyou'll have the girls out
16:11.31WormyThis man seems to enjoy his job in the maggot farm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPU5DE0Z_TA
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16:13.37WormyWhy don't maggots eat each other?
16:13.49AdmiralPandatheir teeth need to git gud
16:13.58WormyThey are blind, they feast on any flesh they can
16:13.59AdmiralPandathat and they smell rotten flesh
16:14.05Wormyah I see, yes
16:14.54Cuttlefish_Pretty sure the meat has to be dead
16:15.19AdmiralPandadead and rotten to be precise
16:16.15Monet_http://exterminatusnow.co.uk/comics/20140629-gotta-go-fast.png Eastwood's expressions: I don't think I have ever seen anyone that terrified.
16:17.08WormyThe bloke says the fly hatchery is "a really nice place to be" lol
16:17.33OluapPlayerSo are we rping or not
16:17.47WormyI've heard of this though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myiasis
16:18.30WormyI think the flies havto lzay the eggs in you though
16:18.55AdmiralPandathey don't have to, it's just convenient
16:19.12Cuttlefish_That is just one of those things that gives adults nightmares
16:20.08Wormyhttp://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/newdelhi/doctors-remove-100-live-maggots-from-a-75-year-old-woman-s-nose/article1-746653.aspx
16:20.15AdmiralPandathere are some parasites that lay their eggs in living bodies, but it's not that often
16:20.49Monet_The botfly terrifies me because it does this
16:20.53WormySo, could one contract maggots off of another source?
16:21.07WormyLike, sniffing a caracass too hard
16:21.50WormyI was wondering because if they would start eating live tissue, it was making me wonder why they don't eat each other
16:22.21Cuttlefish_I think I have a new number one fear
16:23.02Monet_How I Met your Mother's Robin Shabotski is one of those women who wants to hear one sentence from her father to make her life complete: "Robin I'm proud of you, eh."
16:23.18HachimanSo nobody's interested in Son of Gotla? No? Okay cool
16:23.21AdmiralPandathat came out of the blue
16:23.35WormyThe botfly is why you don't sleep in a sheep field
16:23.35Monet_I'm watching the show
16:23.40Cuttlefish_I'm pretty sure if there isn't meat the maggots do eat eachother
16:23.57Monet_Wormy: ...I thought it was a rainforest insect
16:24.15AdmiralPandaHachiman: I read it, I just don't have much context to teh whole thing, so as I said before, it's well written but that's all I can say
16:24.26WormyNope, there are sheep botflies
16:24.33Wormyeven in the UK I think
16:24.37HachimanThen why not read the rest so you get context
16:24.43Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oestrus_ovis
16:24.52AdmiralPandabecause I'm doing too much to read the entirety of Ice Age
16:25.02AdmiralPandajust to understand one section
16:25.21Cuttlefish_I don't think sheep botflies are zoonotic
16:25.49HachimanFine
16:26.22WormyI'm not taking my chances :P
16:26.26HachimanWonder why I keep writing here if people are just going to flat out not read each other's stuff
16:26.31Monet_I'm starting to get really tired of this "No one responds therefore no one cares" vibe.
16:27.40Monet_How about the possibility of writing to explore ideas.
16:27.55AdmiralPandaFine then, you know what? Just so you can get your little giggles, I'm going to stop what I was doing, sit down, start from the beginning and read Ice AGe
16:27.56Cuttlefish_That thing's like 30 pages long
16:28.02Monet_Or writing to express a visualisation.
16:28.12WormyI just write because I enjoy it, but I do like to know that people do read my stuff sometimes
16:28.18HachimanUgh I shouldn't have said anything
16:28.26HachimanKeep doing whatever you're doing
16:29.05Cuttlefish_nah we like reading your stuff, ice age is just really darn long
16:29.17HachimanIt's not Ice Age though, it's just Son of Gotla
16:29.23ImperiosHachiman: TBH, I understand you
16:29.27AdmiralPandaNo, I might as well, otherwise this same thing is going to happen every time there's a new section
16:29.27HachimanIt's much shorter than Ice Age
16:29.31ImperiosI feel like I do not get enough attention as well
16:29.36ImperiosBut meh in my case it's my fault
16:30.01ImperiosSpeaking of which, Hachiman
16:30.01HachimanAdmiralPanda: No, honestly don't worry about it
16:30.05Monet_If you want to get a feel for an audience reading your stuff why not monetise it? That way you can gauge audience interest by how much profit you're getting from the book.
16:30.05Cuttlefish_It's long enough that you can't read it while multitasking.
16:30.06HachimanRead what you feel like reading
16:30.16ImperiosI like Tetra's personality growth
16:30.24WormyI can't think why Imperios, at least I don't have any reservations to reading your stuff based on anything
16:30.37ImperiosI don't write much stuff
16:30.57ImperiosIt's funny because I have tons of ideas, but when it comes to actually realising them...
16:30.58WormyOh I see
16:31.04WormyYes that is my problem
16:31.25HachimanMonet: Also answering your question, writing to express ideas is good but you won't know if those ideas work if nobody gives a toss
16:31.46WormyAlso I socially isolated my fiction writing short stories too far away from current plots.  But I'm mendinbg this issue now by getting involved again
16:32.07Cuttlefish_I have lots of idea,then it turns out some famous science fiction writer has already done it 5 times.
16:32.11ImperiosShirtless plot was meant to venture in the problems of duty and freedom, growing out of your parents and parent figures' shadows, and use Gnosticist symbolism and philosophy as its bases
16:32.14Imperios*basis
16:32.25ImperiosInstead, boob jokes and weeaboo shit
16:32.38Monet_Hachiman: You are the only one I can remember talking about Star Dragons. I still want to finish it.
16:33.03ImperiosMonet_: Me too
16:33.11Cuttlefish_Other than Hachi's occasional boob joke, when have we ever done that?
16:33.29ImperiosShirtless plo
16:33.30Imperiosplot
16:33.43ImperiosThere was a scene revolving around Thessina's flat chest
16:34.12ImperiosWhich is kinda strange considering that her mother, Venoriel, is extremely busty
16:34.28OluapPlayerGavakar - what is this chest you speak of
16:34.31AdmiralPandathat's year one down
16:34.54ImperiosAdmiralPanda: Hm?
16:34.57OluapPlayerCan you please stop that
16:34.59ImperiosIs that slang I don't understand
16:35.13ImperiosI am confused
16:35.24AdmiralPandanot really, it just means I've finished reading Year One of Ice Age
16:35.31Imperiosoh
16:35.40ImperiosWho and what was Oluap's comment directed towards
16:35.48OluapPlayerPanda
16:35.49Cuttlefish_Remember when mushrumking did that nude ravenrii story back in the second coming
16:35.55Cuttlefish_That was wierd
16:36.04ImperiosThat was hur-tastic
16:36.05WormyOh wow, the botfly lays its eggs on smaller houseflies so that they transport it to animals while being less likely to be flicked off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vvUia-a17w
16:37.46Cuttlefish_eeewwwww
16:37.48Monet_More of us are going down paths in life that make us busier than before, so cmmenting becomes harder.
16:37.53ImperiosYeah
16:38.05Monet_Like university
16:38.20ImperiosIt seems that SporeWiki's star is slowly setting
16:38.20OluapPlayerI just stopped caring for comments, now I just post the link to updates and whoever feels like reading can read it
16:38.26Cuttlefish_Wormy stahp making everyone afradi of houseflies
16:38.57OluapPlayerI don't read every single thing posted here, I don't expect people to do any different to me
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16:39.20OluapPlayerGetting fiction done by itself is enough
16:40.01ImperiosYou know, I have been thinking recently that you guys have something against me since you have always seemed busy
16:40.40ImperiosAnd never wanted to talk if I asked
16:40.41ImperiosNow I see that I was wrong, it's just the nature of our community that is changing
16:40.42Monet_I've recently stopped linking stories because no one says anything, so I leave you all to look in your own time.
16:40.53WormyNot me, I'm just busy with lots of RL things, games and then trying to find time to write fiction on top.  But now I have the whole Summer so you'll see more of my stuff
16:41.22OluapPlayerYou're too overly paranoid
16:41.45ImperiosYes I know
16:41.47ImperiosI was
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16:41.55ImperiosThankfully I am trying to change my mindset now
16:42.07ImperiosGetting some IRL friends like Alyona certainly helped
16:42.24AdmiralPandaheh, the level of Mass Effect in Wragrot's introduction :P
16:42.49Cuttlefish_You mean that girl Hachi was teasing you about insisting you had some crush
16:43.11Monet_Cuttlefish_: That's her
16:43.11ImperiosWell I do have some sort of feelings towards her, though I believe our relationship is platonic
16:43.24ImperiosLike, just good friends
16:43.30OluapPlayerYeah Wragrot is a total Wrex expy
16:43.37OluapPlayerAlso please stop reading out of spite
16:43.42OluapPlayerYou're making me nervous
16:44.14AdmiralPandaHow so?
16:44.36OluapPlayerI don't want people to force themselves to read what they're not interested i
16:44.37OluapPlayerm
16:44.38OluapPlayerin
16:44.40OluapPlayergoddamnit
16:45.50Imperiospats Oluap on the shoulder
16:46.07ImperiosKeyboards hate us both hur
16:46.34ImperiosOne thing I don't understand is
16:46.49ImperiosHow you guys don't cave in under criticism of some sort (like right now)?
16:47.01Cuttlefish_I think I just found tybunsen's tumblr
16:47.14OluapPlayerI don't get your question
16:47.51Monet_Cuttlefish_: What's the indicator?
16:48.15AdmiralPandaCriticism is a challenge to improve, nothing more.
16:48.17Cuttlefish_It's called pikacj and it has the picture of sasha with the bread
16:48.23ImperiosYes, him
16:48.59ImperiosAdmiralPanda: I guess
16:49.07Monet_Cuttlefish: Okay fair enough.
16:49.27ImperiosThis reminds me
16:49.32ImperiosPanda
16:49.41AdmiralPanda?
16:49.58ImperiosRemember the message I sent you yesterday?
16:50.42AngrybirdsI've been wondering why I've never gotten transmissions out of the blue by other empires...
16:51.28WormyThose types of messages seem to be less common now
16:51.40AdmiralPandaoh right
16:51.51AdmiralPandathe answer is yes
16:52.00ImperiosYES YES YES YES YES YES!
16:52.03ImperiosI feel so happy now
16:53.13Monet_Angrybirds: As Wormy said, those transmissions are becoming less common these days.
16:53.34WormyI haven't had one in ages
16:53.34Monet_I think they were on the way out while I was new-ish here.
16:53.43AngrybirdsWhy is that?
16:53.55OluapPlayerNot much point to it when people can just talk through IRC
16:53.59WormyThe last one I sent was from my STO character Toberek to the DI lol
16:54.22ImperiosHmmm, guys
16:54.23WormyYeah roleplaying on IRC is a much bigger thing now
16:54.27ImperiosDo you know any fitting themes for Javina?
16:54.34ImperiosI'd like to write about her when possible
16:54.36Wormyor group message walls
16:54.43OluapPlayerSo are we not rping anymore?
16:54.49Monet_Imperios: What about Shirtless?
16:55.05ImperiosNo we do,  "when possible" isn't "now"
16:55.08Imperios*are
16:55.20OluapPlayerSo let's get to it already then
16:55.21ImperiosYes I guess, but first I need to find that little plan I made while in vampireland
16:56.03Imperiosfound it
16:56.09Imperios#sporewiki-rp1
16:56.11ImperiosTo the secret lab!
16:56.22Cuttlefish_Pull the lever kronk!
16:56.24Monet_I was going to say turned down a game of Sins of a Solar Empire with friends because I thought we were doing Shirtless
16:57.03Monet_I'm not on my Sins-capable computer anyway.
16:57.27WormySomeone who works at airports showed me this https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=487378341399464
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16:59.43OluapPlayerspu
17:01.25WormyI'd love to see this map http://phys.org/news/2014-07-area-mars-reveals-surface-planet.html
17:01.26Xhou
17:01.29Wormyhi
17:01.43XhoMonet_: I'll just let you know I'm on the server
17:02.27Cuttlefish_Have we done anything with mars or was it just lamely terraformed?
17:02.39Monet_Xho: Okay. Not sure if i'll be on.
17:03.10Monet_Cuttlesgish_: All we've realyl doen on mars is grund up rocks and collect soil samples.
17:03.20Monet_Culltefish_: *
17:03.36Cuttlefish_I man the fiction universe
17:03.42Cuttlefish_*mean
17:03.48Monet_Oh
17:03.57Monet_I think it's been fully teraformed hasn't it?
17:05.05Cuttlefish_Not sure how that would work. I the gravity got normalized Olympus Mons would sink into the planet and cause mass wubbubba
17:05.39OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oCF-QFuoYs
17:07.44Monet_Terraforming doesn't guarentee 1g gravity all over
17:08.11Cuttlefish_Then Mars must be a weird place to live
17:08.39WormyThe DCP had a colony on Mars in the old fiction but that might have to be revised
17:09.00WormyI might have to for Rights of Earth fic anyway
17:09.25Monet_Only 0.7g
17:09.26WormyMaybe they established a temporary colony with the SSA team when the Jovar landed on Earth
17:10.05Cuttlefish_I don't really like the jovar
17:11.11Wormythey aren't pretty lol
17:11.35Wormynor are grimbies though
17:14.30OluapPlayerMonet_: Guy talking about new Dorf Fort: "My favorite part of this update is how i started my fort and i told my carpenter/woodcutter to cut down a tree and a moose fell down form the tree on him and killed them both"
17:15.00OluapPlayerWatch out for the tree mooses
17:15.11Monet_OluapPlayer: I smell a new meme
17:17.58OluapPlayerhttp://puu.sh/a1RcF/d45b37c65d.png Dwarves are brutal fighters
17:19.11OluapPlayerHe just kicked a guy at the neck and the neck exploded into a lump of gore
17:19.52OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/YVi9RYo.png oh god my sides
17:20.37Monet_Awk-ward
17:20.57OluapPlayer"Guys, not only did an owl explode mere minutes after embarking, but I accidentally dropped some miners down a hole and one lost it and screamed.  Amusingly the other one just dusted himself off and walked off like nothing happened, despite some of the dust turning mysteriously into magma spray."
17:21.32OluapPlayerI just imagine the dwarf caravan arriving to the new fort, an owl passes by and just randomly explodes
17:23.23OluapPlayer"Oh god, child climbed up a tree and couldn't get down. I don't like children very much, so I order the tree to be chopped down. What happens?  Child jumps onto the dwarf who cut the tree down. Seems fine right?  The dwarf's neck broke and he died, and the child's mangled body then fell into a river where he was being torn apart by angry ottermen before he drowned."
17:23.28OluapPlayerAverage day at Dorf Fort
17:24.36Monet_Catch me uncle Urist! *Urist McChild breaks Urist McUncle's neck adter landing on him and falls in a river*
17:28.40AdmiralPandawell, that's year 4 finished, also where did Hachi go?
17:29.29OluapPlayerNow i'm goint to assume you're doing that out of provocation
17:29.53AdmiralPandaactually I wanted to talk to him about our characters
17:30.05AdmiralPandaD&D characters that is
17:30.48Monet_AdmiralPanda: He means you bringing up you've finished year 4
17:31.19AdmiralPandaadmittedly there probably was a bit of snark involved in that
17:32.28AdmiralPandaI'm sick of having to say "I don't get where this fits into the story, so it's well written but that's all I can say" and then having people act like it's my problem for having other things to do than read a whole massive fiction I'm not involved in that I can't make heads or tails out of
17:33.14OluapPlayerForcing yourself to read with a petulant attitude won't solve a thing
17:34.18AdmiralPandaI'm actually not forcing myself to read at this point; and overall my attitude is fairly neutral whatever my choice of words may be saying to you
17:37.28Monet_"Sheldon Cooper - What is your educational background, Howard Wolowitz went to MIT  |  Stuart - I went to art school  |  Sheldon Cooper - Ridiculous enough let's go" >> This convo made me laugh and cry a little.
17:39.35Monet_I feel like Sheldon insulted my background.
17:39.59Monet_But at the same time, I'm not annoyed.
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17:42.38Monet_BM is back on the telly...Bloody hell its been years
17:47.40AdmiralPandawhat's BM?
17:48.29Monet_They're these biscuits with chocolate sauce in the middle, famous for having a smiley face on the surface
17:49.11Monet_http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Choco_BN.jpg they look like this. I haven't seen an advert for these in years.
17:50.19OluapPlayerLooks evil
17:55.20Monet_They're supposed to eb happy-biscuits
17:55.59OluapPlayerHappy to have killed you in your sleep
17:58.04OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/tg/1404686702564.gif
17:58.09Monet_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJObP2Ptww8 here's an advert
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17:58.58AdmiralPandahi buni
17:59.30Monet_Hi
18:05.38AdmiralPandaMonet_: Construction of the nether portal is 70% complete
18:06.08Monet_Nice
18:06.24WormyI don't get why it wasn't letting me save even after combat
18:06.48Monet_Wormy: Are you playing the original?
18:07.04TekDroidI was playing ME earlier had had to restart a whole section after I forgot to save. XD
18:07.36WormyI'd just gone through a lot, then reached an area with no enemies about.  Waited, nothing.  Then I entered another part and came up against Geth Juggernauts.  Either this is hard tor not working properly
18:08.01WormyI think it should let one save if at least no enemies are in vicinity
18:08.07WormyYeah I bought it on Steam sale
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18:08.18Monet_Well, the original is a console port
18:08.18JepardiHi
18:09.30WormyIt has been quick saving, I've observed it doesn't of course in combat, but i wasn't in an area of combat and I was still getting quick save failed
18:09.45Wormythen ded
18:10.26WormyThe mission is the bit where you leave the base on the ice planet with a tank and shoot down Geth turrets and Geth bazooka troops
18:11.13WormyThen you enter the other base and come up against the Geth Juggernauts.  But because I couldn't save before that bit I just thought "thats enough for the day"
18:12.27TekDroidI think I'm just before that, actually.
18:12.52TekDroidgtg.
18:13.41AngrybirdsMonet_: Your work with Draconis provinces inspired me to make this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:France#Regions
18:13.52WormyNow for Watch_Dogs
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18:22.38AdmiralPandaMonet_: Xho found a chasm and I got some iron and diamonds from it
18:22.54Monet_Ohoho nice
18:23.16AdmiralPandaalso we have lots of cows
18:23.22Monet_I noticed.
18:23.53XhoI think I saw some emerald down there as well
18:25.21Monet_Angrybirds: Nice information.
18:25.34Monet_I also see its a good way to see which party is dominant in France
18:27.08AngrybirdsYeah, and the current party is pretty well engrained.
18:27.44AdmiralPandanether portal is complete, soon to be operational
18:28.20Monet_Now you just need to build one at the right point within the Nether
18:28.46AdmiralPandawhat for?
18:29.05Monet_Orientation.
18:29.23Monet_In case we need to build more.
18:29.57AngrybirdsWhat game?
18:30.12Monet_Minecraft
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18:36.39XhoMonet_: There's now an entrance to a large cavern in my house
18:38.08Monet_Dangit I was going ot play Tropico but you're making me think of joining the server
18:38.29Monet_I had samba music going though my head and everything.
18:38.37Monet_Minecraft it is though
18:38.38TekDroidlol. XD
18:39.07AdmiralPandaI'm really starting to miss my Natura :/
18:39.31Monet_Yeah, I had to choose between building a Carribean North Korea and building something on Minecraft.
18:39.34AdmiralPandano agriculture blocks, so we actually have to farm nether wart in the nether
18:43.04TekDroid"Carribean North Kore"?
18:43.08TekDroid*Korea
18:43.43Monet_That's prettymuch how most Tropico games start - a hitty island with a few houses and a terrible economy
18:43.48Monet_shiity*
18:43.59Monet_That with time can afford its own nuclear program
18:45.02TekDroidlol
18:45.19TekDroidHm... I should play Space Engineers later.
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18:51.14Zmr56Hi there
18:51.24Zmr56Lotsa a peeps on today
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18:57.08dromOh you little. Shit.
18:57.13dromZmr...
18:58.00dromcracks Zmr56's nuts which had seen better days*
18:58.17Zmr56You've cracked them so much I'm not even sure I have nuts anymore
18:58.38dromYou still have the sack, m8.
18:59.17Zmr56Well my nuts bestdays were definitely with your mother...
19:00.51dromk
19:01.02Tek0516DroidO.o
19:01.17ImperiosGod what
19:01.26ImperiosAre you my camp mates or something
19:02.59OluapPlayerI'm so bored
19:03.06OluapPlayerGot so much time but nothing to do with it
19:03.27AdmiralPandaput together a one-shot for me and Hachi to test out our characters :P
19:24.29dromI have never done camping. But if you are relating to "campus". I live in one, a dormitory for those who had to move closer to the school though.
19:39.28HachimanApparently Ridley Scott is doing another movie to add to his recently list of crap based on the story of Noah featuring Christian Bale, Sigourney Weaver, and Aaron Paul
19:39.37Hachiman*recent
19:40.10HachimanNo wait not Noah
19:40.18HachimanMoses
19:40.19HachimanGot the names mixed up
19:43.12Wormy_"Don't judge a book by its cover"
19:43.52HachimanAnother religious iconography movie portrayed white a Caucasian cast in important roles
19:43.59Hachiman*portrayed with
19:44.11Wormy_No offense, but I think people should only have the right to call something crap unless they have seen it
19:44.22Wormy_*if they have
19:44.54Wormy_I terribly misjudged Oblivion but it was quite good
19:44.57HachimanI've come to expect shit movies from washed-out directors nowadays
19:45.06Wormy_based on its aesthetics
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19:46.05Wormy_I hate to sound hipster but I like the lesser known films
19:46.50Wormy_These films are gold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_(film)  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fountain
19:47.57Wormy_But I do agree, I am fed up of sci-fi films these days
19:48.09Wormy_We need more hard SF or specul;ative SF films.
19:48.21Wormy_bbl dinner
19:53.03TekDroidI would like to see some real hard sci-fi films.
19:54.14Monet_Correct me but doesn't the uploaded intelligence in Transcendant go evil or something?
19:55.13TekDroidNot sure. Wanted to see that but never had the chance.
19:55.29TekDroidThe trailers gave me the impression yes.
19:58.39TekDroidI was getting a lot of anti-AI feeling from it though.
20:01.39Monet_That's the only kind of AI hollywood seems to prefer
20:02.55TekDroidHollywood seems to be in a very pro-religion, anti-advanced technology period.
20:04.33TekDroidIn a very traditional and nostalgic period for media in general, IMO
20:05.55TekDroidBut I'd like if if for once the AI wasn't a bad guy of a movie.
20:06.01Monet_Agreed
20:07.47TekDroidI'm thinking through all the sci-fi media I've seen... so far the only one I can think of where an AI wasn't bad is Star Wars and Star Trek.
20:08.26TekDroidOf course the former is kinda ruined by the Seperatist army.
20:08.49TekDroidand the latter would also be ruined by the Borg.
20:10.00TekDroidWow, hollywood really is against AIs and robots.
20:12.01dromhttp://files.worldofvagax.com/uploads/photos/1872014/20140707142117_59695_92372462_1592296784_imgur3.gif
20:12.14TekDroidFrom a media perspective I can see why they often do it.after all
20:13.17TekDroid*After all, what's the easiest use of a superintelligent character who's stereotypically emotionless and very vulnerable to hollywood hacking?
20:13.35dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/Bnymmsl.gif
20:13.52Monet_Also you said they're pro-religious. "How can morality be imparted onto a soulless machine"
20:14.30TekDroidYep.
20:14.45TekDroidAlso the "creative sterility" trope.
20:17.02TekDroidPlus machines have the ability of not offending any religious, cultural or ideological groups when used as a villain.
20:21.39TekDroidHollywood has reinforced tropes and stereotypes so well that intelligent machines are the prefect target.
20:23.46dromwelp, my room feels like a sauna
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20:40.13Sporeraptorhi
20:42.52Zmr56Hi
20:55.25XhoDear god
20:55.34XhoGermany vs Brazil right now
20:55.42Xho45th minute and Germany are 5 - 0 up
20:58.24Technobliteratorthis is insane
20:58.29Technobliteratordat world cup
20:59.43Monet_Germans are great footballers
21:00.58Xho5 goals in 29 minutes
21:02.57Xhohttps://vine.co/v/MPXOVAOpOzQ Current reaction in Brazil right now
21:06.22XhoYou just don't fuck with Germany
21:08.24Xhohttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsDP9TrIEAE9sKG.jpg "We Germans aren't all smiles und sunshine." #WorldCup2014 #BrazilvsGermany
21:11.12TekDroidI forsee rioting in Brazil.
21:13.26dromBrazil is going to be in anarchy just because they lost the semi-final in vm
21:35.27Zmr567 nil now I forsee civil war now
21:39.10Xhohttps://vine.co/v/MPXtK7qw5Ya
21:40.18Zmr56Aye
21:40.53ImpyDroid2OluapPlayer: New Shu looks a bit like Xitannoth
21:41.37XhoI'm renaming the World Cup to 'Blitzkrieg'
21:43.52Monet_mAKES PERFECT SENSE
21:43.56Monet_sorry for caps
21:48.25Zmr56I convinced the final is going to be Netherlands vs Germany
21:48.46Xho7-1 now
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21:52.28XhoThat game wasn't even funny for Brazil
21:52.36XhoThat really was a Blitzkrieg
21:54.48TekDroidLol
21:54.49Zmr56It was funny for me
21:55.10Zmr56It wanted this to happen ever since they announced they were hosting the cup
21:58.15OfficerJackalYeah, plus I think they had a referee or two that were way to kind to them.
22:02.23TekDroidBut 7-1... wow.
22:11.18OfficerJackalThe World Cup killed Oluap. :(
22:20.21TekDroidWikia is being really slow...
22:20.32TekDroidI can't connect now.
22:20.39TekDroid~test
22:20.42infobotextra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny
22:20.58TekDroidLagging now too.
22:25.04Wormy_Germany vs Brazil in 7 seconds https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1524969274393694
22:25.22Wormy_7 to 1, almost 7 to 0
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22:25.59TekDroidI got a nice lol from that
22:26.05Wormy_lol
22:26.08Wormy_hi
22:26.14The_RandomnessHello everyone
22:30.57Wormy_WTF https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1524969274393694
22:31.08Wormy_Sorry, wromg link
22:31.18Wormy_http://pulptastic.com/guy-figured-ride-pallet-work-video/
22:34.59TekDroidLol, that is awesome.
22:35.15Wormy_I'd like Argentina to win the next match, so that there is at least one South American team to go against Europeans
22:36.59Wormy_I wonder if this will kill football a bit in Brazil.  I mean, all the controversy over the world cub being held there and now a young team which can't reach the finals.
22:37.14TekDroidOne of my other communities was running a FIFA thing and my section chose Netherlands. So they're the only team I've really even been slightly interested in.
22:39.03Wormy_Since le Tour de France started I had forgotten about World Cup a bit
22:39.17TekDroidBoth semi-finals are Europeans vs South Americans though...
22:39.18Wormy_but this has brought me back
22:39.51Wormy_If Argentina go out though, it will only be Europe left
22:40.16Wormy_Argentina gives perhaps the whole of South America to rest their hopes on
22:40.53Wormy_I was so excited about le Tour I actually went to see stage 2
22:45.35Wormy_Some of the comments here really fucking piss me off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B96ldgjS_kw
22:45.58The_RandomnessYouTube comments are trash, just ignore them
22:46.44Wormy_They accuse Cavendish of being a "menace" or crashing in purpose.  Fucking idiots, when a sprinter sprints at over 40 mph they have little time to think, they just have to choose a line and make a run for it, even through slower people in front
22:47.20Wormy_They are obviously jealous, Cavendish is one of the fastest riders on the planet ever
22:47.58Wormy_Unfortunately, he crashed in stage 1 on his own home turf just before he could make the last few hundred metres, fell on his shoulder and had to quit
22:48.38Wormy_I was gutted when he crashed
22:48.45Monet_Oooh nasty
22:48.50Wormy_He might appear in the Tour of Spain though
22:49.55Wormy_his pa=ge says it all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cavendish
22:50.03Monet_Hope so, he's one of our best riders.
22:51.15Monet_So far the Minecraft server appears to be going well. The only major hiccup so far being Panda accidentally setting his house on fire.
22:52.11Wormy_Right, I'm going to put Minecraft on my new PC tomorrow and join if thats okay
22:52.27Monet_Sure. That would be great
22:53.35The_RandomnessWhat's this about a Minecraft server?
22:53.38The_RandomnessMonet_: Does the server have mods or anything?
22:54.11Monet_The_Randomness: No mods unfortunately
22:54.18The_Randomnessk
22:54.27Wormy_Is it still in survival?
22:55.10The_RandomnessNot sure why he didn't just tell you guys about my server. (totally no shameless self promotion here)
22:55.14Monet_Yes, but Xho and I have found a way to give certain users the ability to switch to creative if they wish
22:55.49Monet_The_Randomness: Well one of the advantages is this minecraft server can be run 24/7
22:56.20The_RandomnessAs can mine, since I leave my computer on
22:56.20The_Randomness:>
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22:56.49The_RandomnessSilly connection
22:57.07The_RandomnessMy server is always on, since I leave my computer on all the time
22:58.10Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10253910_746089142080155_1053815102737429764_n.png ohgod Obama
22:58.49Monet_The_Randomness: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:186922#2 I made a forum post about it
22:59.07The_Randomnessi c
22:59.20Wormy_I'd like to play in survival
22:59.39Technobliteratortime up
22:59.40Technobliteratorbyee
22:59.43The_Randomnessbye
22:59.48Monet_No problem. Its on survival by default
23:00.28Monet_Hachiman: If only an act of courtesy by George Washington did not become a solid rule
23:01.23Monet_Although this does reflect what we were talking about regardign Baxter's work yesterday
23:02.46Wormy_I think I'd enjoy survival more.  I made too many big builds for nothing on Irskaadserv
23:03.21Wormy_Now I don't need to feel as compelled to
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23:04.44Wormy_We need to get Cyrannian playing Minecraft hur
23:07.34Wormy_I fancy editing SporeWiki
23:08.56Wormy_editingHm, how the heck do I move Minecraft over?  Jyst drag and drop the files?
23:09.24Monet_You mean after downloading?
23:09.33Wormy_editingI've still got my old PC but I had put all my files on an external hardrive
23:09.46Wormy_editingyeah, since I've already paid for Minecraft once
23:09.58Monet_Drag and drop should be fine I think
23:10.41Wormy_editingI'm going to use my old PC as a render farm
23:11.38AngrybirdsNight people!
23:11.53Wormy_editingSo I can both my PC's to render animations and simulations.  You can set it so that each key frame renders one by one on a different machine.  If something goes wrong, then at least you have one set of files
23:11.56Wormy_editingbye
23:12.00TekDroidNight!
23:12.22Monet_Goodnight
23:12.27Wormy_editingI could actually use my laptop as well :O
23:14.20TekDroidI'll need to come up with a better icon for my Coalition. I was going to use the icon on its current flag but then I remembered my subconscious inspiration for it. XD I'll need to come up with an I
23:14.36TekDroid* http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140526123347/spore/images/1/1d/Farengeto_Colony_Flag4.png
23:15.23TekDroidThe icon look familiar? XD
23:15.45Wormy_editingwow thats really nice
23:16.38Wormy_editinganother advantage to render farms is that it doesn't ware out your computer parts as fast
23:16.59AngrybirdsTekdroid: I think you should keep it.
23:17.02TekDroidmakes sense, doing only half the work on each
23:17.04AngrybirdsBecause awesomeness.
23:17.28TekDroidKeeping the flag, just don't want to use its symbol for obvious reasons.
23:17.42TekDroidAs it's just the symbol part
23:21.37TekDroidcreating the Spore symbol was quite accidental though. Took the galaxy symbol I made, threw it on a Farengeto blue background, then thought it looked better with a white border. Then I realized what I had done. XF
23:21.39TekDroid*XD
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23:21.59Wormy_editingHi
23:22.03TekDroidHello
23:22.16Wormy_editingI'm going to create two new sectyions on my 2014 blog
23:22.30Wormy_editingregarding recent community concerns
23:23.02Wormy_editingMe and some users have thought up a few ideas about making them better
23:23.25Monet_Mhm.
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