IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140701

00:01.08Quark8Whenever I went to New York the people weren't rude except for once, but otherwise they just ignored me.
00:01.44MonetIn my time there I've come to guess that only parts of New York never sleep. I stayed in a hostel in the upper-east side and when the sun went down there was hardly any traffic.
00:02.01WormyI was amazed by the people on the documentary, Benefit Street.  A load of people dumped waste on the street, and the counciul refused to clean it up.  So the people living on the street got together and blocked the road with the waste, forcing the council to clean it up.
00:02.04MonetHubs lie TImes Square could still be busy all night though.
00:03.03WormyA lot of horrendous crap is said about gypsies, but my parents lived with them too.  Their ways are different, but the media and pop culture in general look down on them
00:03.13CyrannianBack
00:04.07MonetWormy: I've had the misfortune to have friends talk as if all Gypsies do is steal anything that isn't nailed down.
00:04.41WormyWell, they are both uncultured and afraid.  Afraid of anything different.
00:05.26WormyI myself haven't travelled, but I did live with the boating community and it is very different to living in houses
00:05.38Wormyeven the people
00:06.26WormyI could wax romance about it but there were weirdos, and if you are a person who depresses quickly from isolation it isn't for you
00:06.36WormyBecause in winter
00:06.46WormyEverybody stays in their boats to keep warm
00:07.31WormyI know somewone who nearly killed themselves because of the isolation from other boaters.
00:07.47WormyHe was used to a life of parties you see
00:08.36WormyBut then, you meet people who would actually help you, and you'd meet real characters, and you'd meet people who don't generally fit in mainstream society
00:11.35MonetTheRandomness: Reading this essay you linked makes me thing.
00:11.38Monetthink, sorry
00:12.01MonetHow does post-scarcity work in what nations in the fictioverse
00:12.13The_RandomnessThat is a very good question.
00:12.47The_RandomnessI would assume that varies greatly between different nations
00:12.52MonetYeah.
00:13.13MonetThe system of "no one needs money anymore because massive resource abundance" has been bugging me for months.
00:13.47The_RandomnessI really liked that person's analysis of the UFP's economyt
00:13.55The_Randomnesspesky little "t" :l
00:13.58Monet"Money still exists, so do banks. Crusher buys fabric at Farpoint. DS9 makes mention of theBank of Bolias, on a Federation planet. Nog loans Jake latinum."
00:14.45MonetI always chalked Crusher buying that fabric as "it was an early episode of TNG" or "this wasn't quite a Federation planet"
00:14.55WormyI don't think Fed people buy much though
00:15.12OfficerJackalBRB changing computers.
00:15.26WormyAs Picard said, material objects have little meaning or something
00:15.41WormyBut then, he has a massive collection of valuables
00:15.55Wormystar trek is full of these contraditions
00:15.59MonetIsn't most of that stuff from his archaeology days?
00:17.56WormyCaptain Picard is a hypocrite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMvxsbosdZE
00:18.51CyrannianI like Major Grin's Captain Picard.
00:19.05MonetOk good point. Although maybe its subjective?
00:19.12WormyPicard is like a hoarding dragon
00:19.32MonetAn archelological find would be more valuable than anything that could be pulled out of a replicator
00:19.59WormyHe admits to purchasing goods in that compilation
00:20.03The_RandomnessI think it's more that they frown upon using stuff to say "I'm better than you because I have stuff", not that you should eschew all material goods
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00:23.05The_Randomnesslol
00:23.38The_Randomness"It's a long way down, at least 200 meters. You would die instantly."
00:24.07MonetI feel a fictionverse essay coming on. This one will analyse the whole "post-scarcity society" situation
00:24.10CyrannianActually, don't click it. It gets very inappropriate.
00:25.45MonetThe thing about economics if if one does not actually study it, it can get confusing quickly.
00:26.11The_RandomnessYeah
00:26.42MonetNot just study in the sense of "look at case studies of events caused by economic systems" I mean know it close to inside-out
00:29.52MonetI wonder if the Imperium's emphasis on the creative industry and the influence of wealthy elite is what keeps a currency system still around.
00:30.08Monetfor them anyway
00:31.08MonetArtifacts like paintings, records, sheet music, sculptures, unique furniture so on are still widely auctioned
00:31.48MonetEven though the technolgoy exists to make three million copies of a painting that are identical to the original down t oa subatomic level
00:35.42Monet"I believe that the Federation Unit is not actually underwritten or issued by the Federation. I think it is more akin to the Calgary Dollar or the Chiemgauer. Or bitcoin. This would solve so many problems. It would make it unequivocally true that the Federation doesn’t use money. It would give people a unit to use as reference when they say things are expensive."
00:35.55MonetThis is how i've tried to describe the Mimidian Credit.
00:36.29MonetIts not its own currency, its a value used during inter-currency transactions.
00:37.24CyrannianNightie night
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00:39.10MonetIf you bought something in mimidian credits, you were still removing say USD from your account and giving it to the clark who records the transaction in say Russian rubles.
00:40.22MonetBecause the credit is largely digital, catalogues can use wi-fi connections to corss-reference the price and tell you how much you're paying in your own currency as well as mimidian credits
00:42.27MonetSo officially the Imperium uses the mimidian credit. Unofficially there are millions of different currency units in circulation
00:43.07MonetSorry if i'm rambling
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00:43.25OfficerJackalBack again!
01:02.10Quark8test
01:05.21Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Neutrality_Zone_Treaty_Organization boom
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01:21.31Quark8Hello.
01:21.31AngrybirdsOfficerJackal: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Neutrality_Zone_Treaty_Organization
01:21.38AngrybirdsFinished.
01:22.59OfficerJackalAngryBirds: Looks awesome!
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02:12.26TekDroidHello
02:12.49TekDroidI just saw The Edge of Tomorrow.
02:13.43TekDroidOne thing I found kinda humorous was the blatant reference with the setting.
02:16.55TekDroidIt's the fifth year of the war, which started with an enemy that rose in Germany, curbstomps most of Europe, gets halted in places like the middle of Russia, and troops in the UK are preparing to land in Normandy to launch the final campaign to win the war.
02:17.03TekDroidSound familiar? XD
02:17.39DrodoEmpirehur
02:20.04TekDroidI don't think they ever explicitly said Normandy, but it was pretty blatant. :P
02:20.23DrodoEmpireYeah
02:22.07TekDroidThey even had it stopped in the right part of Italy. XD
02:25.01TekDroidSo in this CKII game the Aztecs have now curbstomped most of Spain and France, with England beaten pretty bad.
02:25.04TekDroidXD
02:25.27DrodoEmpirelol
02:25.34DrodoEmpireSunset Invasion DLC?
02:26.07TekDroidYeah. Picked it up for fun.
02:26.52TekDroidHm... in fact I'd picked up quite a lot of Paradox stuff during the sale...
02:27.19DrodoEmpireDid you get Conquest of Paradise?
02:27.42TekDroidYeah.
02:27.53DrodoEmpireGood. XD
02:28.52TekDroidSo now I've got EUIV with WoN and CoP, CKII with LoR, TOG and SI, and HOI3
02:29.57TekDroidI am quite the Paradox fan. XD
02:31.24DrodoEmpireIndeed
02:32.11DrodoEmpire*EUIV-style popup appears on my screen saying "CONVERSION SUCCESSFUL!"*
02:32.44TekDroidIt's one purchase I don't regret though.
02:56.04TekDroidLol, the Aztecs take out most of France and Spain, but it isn't until Avignon falls that the Pope decides to call a crusade. XD
02:56.21DrodoEmpirehur
03:00.31TekDroidAnd England just lost... well, England. They now only have Ireland. XD
03:00.43DrodoEmpireOuch
03:01.10TekDroidBut the Crusaders have liberated the northern half of France.
03:05.00TekDroidglances to the east and notices Venice took control of Western Turkey
03:05.03TekDroidO.o
03:05.06DrodoEmpirewat
03:05.07DrodoEmpireXD
03:06.25TekDroidMeanwhile the Mongols are still advancing and just hit Hungary and Poland.
03:07.01TekDroidHRE is running out of buffer. XD
03:07.45TekDroidDamnit, it's crashing a lot. :/
03:19.14DrodoEmpiretest
03:20.33TekDroidToday I saw that apparently have commercial quantum computers now.
03:20.48DrodoEmpireReally!?
03:20.50DrodoEmpireWow.
03:21.58TekDroidIt was in some tech thing before my movie
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04:37.38TekDroidSo I think new Canadian spam law that's now active requires them to have your permission for them to send you anything, or something like that.
04:44.44TekDroidAlso, DrodoEmpire: Happy Canada Day. :)
04:45.03DrodoEmpireTek: Same! :D
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04:53.06Quark8Hello.
05:10.47DrodoEmpiretest
05:12.58OfficerJackalDrodoEmpire: Loud and clear!
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08:20.16GhelaeHello.
08:24.49Liquid_InkHello
08:35.45Liquid_InkHow are you?
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08:39.59JepardiHi
08:51.55GhelaeHello.
08:52.02GhelaeLiquid_Ink: I'm all right; how about you?
08:52.28Liquid_InkI have that feeling you get after a particular storyline of a thing you like has its climactic climax.
09:00.23GhelaeRight.
09:02.36Liquid_InkYou know the feeling?
09:02.52Liquid_InkOh, and it was reasonably happy.
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09:04.52dromgreetings
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09:24.31AdmiralPandahi
09:24.44Liquid_InkHello
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10:02.51Hachimanhai
10:03.38Liquid_InkHello
10:05.49AdmiralPandahai buniman
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11:16.51MonetHello
11:17.20MonetOh bloody hell I've jsut seen the Imperial Guardsman's Uplifting Primer.
11:17.33MonetThe Tau entries have made my sides saw
11:17.35Monetsore*
11:19.37MonetWhoever wrote it seemed to think that the Tau sacrifice peopl to pagan gods and are frightened by fire, water and thunder.
11:21.03MonetFear of fire falls apart when one realises that fire is a kind of plasma, which the Tau use like no tomorrow.
11:21.17AdmiralPandaCorrection: whoever wrote it wanted the Imperium to THINK that's how they work
11:21.41AdmiralPandathe Imperial Primer also states that Tyranid claws are blunt and worthless
11:22.11MonetMust have been a faulty servitor who approved the entries.
11:23.05AdmiralPandaon the contrary
11:23.11AdmiralPandalike I said, this misinformation is deliberate
11:23.24AdmiralPandait's not a tactical manual, it's propaganda
11:24.04AdmiralPandathe name says it all, "Uplifting Primer" - it's not supposed to tell you how to win a war, it's supposed to make you confident enough to enlist, rather than the truth which would scare any human into inactivity
11:24.34AdmiralPandathe Imperium doesn't get trillions of humans motivated to fight by giving them a realistic assessment of the enemy, it feeds them lies to make them THINK they have the upper hand
11:24.44AdmiralPandawhen really, the Imperium counts bodies like it counts bullets, just another statistic
11:26.02MonetWell according to Ciphias Cain, the average guardsman treats it as seriously as I would a copy of the Daily Mail
11:26.09Liquid_Inkhttp://media.tumblr.com/adb8ddedab65cb3eb4610793e0ba4091/tumblr_inline_mmesbiuufX1qz4rgp.gif
11:26.17AdmiralPandaof course you would
11:26.18AdmiralPandathat's the idea
11:26.32AdmiralPandawhat's the point of propaganda if you don't believe it?
11:27.08AdmiralPandaor is the Daily Mail considered bullshit?
11:27.18MonetSensationalist ullshit.
11:27.26AdmiralPandaah
11:27.43AdmiralPandawell yeah, that's because the average guardsman has actually been to the front
11:28.18AdmiralPandabut fresh recruits, or people who are sitting in the slums of a megacity, don't know the difference
11:28.20MonetCOmedian Russel Howard made up a song relating to a Daily Mail headline about how many things have you cancer; "The Mail's got big balls to print it | because i's sixty pages of scary bullshit"
11:28.34Monetgive*
11:29.03MonetAnd like the uplifting primer, there are people in the UK who believe everything it talks about.
11:30.10MonetHm, maybe the uplifting primer is a Games Workshop jab at the Daily Mail.
11:30.25MonetOrks are a jab at football hooligans/chavs after all
11:30.27AdmiralPandamaybe, then again it makes sense that something like that would exist
11:30.46AdmiralPandathe ADF has a Soldier's Handbook, except it's more informative and has no politics
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11:45.39CountImperiosHi
11:46.15MonetHello
11:46.28CountImperios...What are you doing this time?
11:47.11MonetNothing, its a weekday
12:03.20MonetI don't think anyone has head of a British show called "Time Commanders" have they?
12:05.37MonetIts an interesting concept; get a bunch of peop with no gaming experience into a war-room style set. Assign two of the four as lieutenants to direct controllers of a Rome:Total War army and two to act as generals with an overview of the map, then have them play out famous classical battles.
12:06.57MonetAnd see how they'd fare in the general's shoes.
12:07.35MonetOne group in particular: Four vicars who prevailed as the Romans in the battle of Tetuoburg Forest.
12:08.17MonetOr a family of four who utterly smashed the Norse at Stamford Bridge.
12:10.33Monethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kl9I7POTrs behold: Four vicars vs the Germans.
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12:11.33MonetHallo
12:11.52OluapPlayerhey
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12:13.26Wormyhi
12:13.55MonetThere's something innately awesome about the UK making a series about four people playing Rome: Total War
12:18.03AdmiralPandaSomething awesome has happened
12:18.18AdmiralPandamy friend sent me his copy of the Technomancer rules- think D&D, but in a sic-fi context
12:18.24AdmiralPandasci-fi*
12:19.45AdmiralPandaI could actually run a science fiction role-play instead of a fantasy, if people are ever up for it
12:20.46MonetHell yeah!
12:27.30AdmiralPandaI'll have to reacquaint myself with the rules, but it can certainly be done
12:32.32AdmiralPandaone thing I like about this system is it has a huge buffer of health that regenerates automatically after battle, and only a small bit of health that needs actual healing
12:32.45AdmiralPandaso there's practically no need for a party member to be a healer of any kind
12:35.19AdmiralPandaOluapPlayer Hachiman: either of you guys interested?
12:35.49OluapPlayerI'm not so sure
12:50.39WormyHachi, Monet:  This game comes from the era of John C Lilly's fame and is quite trippy.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecco_the_Dolphin  and  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Lilly#Earth_Coincidence_Control_Office_.28ECCO.29
12:50.56WormyI wonder if its inspired
12:51.08OluapPlayerI remember playing Ecco the Dolphin
12:51.22OluapPlayerI could never get past the first level since I didn't know what the hell to do
12:53.12WormyI played it on Dreamcast
12:53.27MonetOluap: "The game's creator, Ed Annunziata, had decided to intentionally make the game difficult because he had feared that children who rented it would be able to easily complete the game over the weekend."
12:53.34Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecco_the_Dolphin:_Defender_of_the_Future
12:53.50WormyAh, the classic era
12:53.51OluapPlayerEh
12:54.11MonetEcco the Dolphin was supposed to be hard
12:54.11WormyKids today complete a whole game in a single sitting
12:54.34OluapPlayerIf the game is easy and short, maybe
12:54.45WormyI once played Spore for 8 hours
12:55.56AdmiralPandathe other thing is, back in the old days game cartridges didn't have much memory, so games were made hard to get longevity where developers couldn't add content
12:57.38WormyDefender of the Future prologue http://youtu.be/4BlR7AzDK7I?t=1m23s
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12:58.15CountImperiosHai
12:58.18Wormyhi
12:58.35OluapPlayerhi
12:59.05AdmiralPandahi
12:59.28OluapPlayerCountImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Adsiduus_Elf I made more elves
13:03.35OluapPlayerboo
13:04.12MonetHe'll be back by next week
13:05.15WormyI mourn my dreamcast.  I'll never get one again
13:05.30WormyWhy did it have to break
13:06.03WormyOn Amazon - 2 new from £2,500.00
13:06.24Wormymind you, 21 used from £32.99
13:06.28Wormybut that is a risk
13:11.34WormySega Nomad  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vvrsF2IbnM&list=UUxt9Pvye-9x_AIcb1UtmF1Q
13:18.24Wormyi just seen the best come back
13:18.42WormySomeone called some other user a scrub
13:18.54WormySo the user came back and saoid "Scrub mah balls, pal"
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14:15.11OluapPlayerdumba
14:15.16Technobliteratorya dad
14:15.18Technobliteratorhii
14:23.45AdmiralPandahi
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14:34.52TekDroidDamn, it's started pouring out here.
14:35.21TekDroidGreat weather for Canada Day. DX
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14:45.49Hachimanhai
14:46.36TekDroidHello.
14:50.13Hachiman[[Creature:Derevar Elf]] dun dis
14:50.29Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Derevar_Elf
14:56.32OluapPlayertop quote pls
14:57.54HachimanTHINKEN OF QUOTES
14:57.56Hachimanwoops caps
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15:15.49Quark8Hello.
15:33.53HachimanI added a top quote
15:33.58Hachimannao u lot quote pls
15:37.53OluapPlayerbout fukin time
15:44.39MonetThere
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16:04.51MonetOkay I've had a look at the Plai nElves.
16:05.35MonetAnd I don't see much interesting about them.
16:07.21MonetThey're jsut too close to humans to be distinct to me.
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16:23.38OfficerJackalHm, so aparrently, BP says we only have 53.3 years of oil left according to current profit margins.
16:24.10OfficerJackalhttp://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/06/28/the-world-was-533-years-of-oil-left/11528999/
16:24.38AdmiralPandafive bucks says we wait 53.2 years to start seriously developing wide-scale renewable energy
16:26.11OfficerJackalLol. That would be funny, although we might already be screwed at that point. XD
16:26.31MonetWe might be screwed within thirty.
16:27.05OluapPlayerAdmiralPanda: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1404220990342.jpg Priscilla
16:27.23AdmiralPandahur
16:27.32AdmiralPandasuch cosplay skills
16:27.39AdmiralPandaand that was not doge
16:30.29OfficerJackalHmm, I also read something about Methane in the siberian sea shelf, and if it was relesed could, at worst, raise the global temperature by +12c.
16:30.30OfficerJackal...
16:30.33OfficerJackalLol sorry africa, u ded.
16:30.36OfficerJackalXD
16:32.11AdmiralPandafun fact: if the world's oceans raised by about two metres, 80% of Australia would be underwater, but only 10% of the population would be displaced
16:33.05OfficerJackalFun fact: If the world's oceans raised by about two metres, 99% of Florida would be underwater, and 100% of the population would have to resort ot making settlements on tall bill-boards.
16:34.32MonetA lobal temperature rise of twelve degrees is a very very bad thing
16:35.01OfficerJackalWell, yeah, whole parts of the planet would probably be un-inhabitable.
16:35.19MonetI like to look at it this way: That's an average, so some places wil lget MUCH hotter and some places will get MUCH colder
16:35.38AdmiralPandaboth of which are bad :P
16:35.39Monet+12 degrees sounds massive compared to the +4 degrees I've been hearing about
16:36.26OfficerJackalYeah, but remember that's only if the Methane in the siberian sea shelf is released, like, all of it. So it's a worse case scenario, realistically, the temperature increase could be lower.
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16:38.13TekDroidThis comic comes to mind: http://www.xkcd.com/1379/
16:38.14MonetI've encountered a few sscpetics who go "only four degrees? How is that a problem"
16:38.29OfficerJackalTop kek.
16:39.29WormyHas anyone ever encountered the electric universe cranks?
16:39.32OfficerJackalYeah, they won't be saying that when some parts of Earth are un-inhabitable and shit is hitting the fan.
16:39.54MonetOf couse these peopl probably don't realise that the term doesn't mean a four degree rise everywhere.
16:40.13TekDroidFour degrees was the difference between now and the Ice Age.
16:40.52AdmiralPandaalso, it's the time
16:41.02AdmiralPandafour degrees instantly would cause wide-scale reduction of life on earth
16:41.07AdmiralPandaand that's four degrees everywhere
16:41.27AdmiralPandathe more varied increase and decrease that would actually happen is even worse
16:41.32WormyBasically a blanket theory with no predictions, based on outdated sources which are cherry picked.  The community of electric universe cranks are extremely vocal whenever i see them debate.  You can see them in the comments here http://neutrinodreaming.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/electric-universe-theory-debunked.html
16:41.41MonetAverage global temperatures today are 15 degrees c or soemthing like that. But here's where they probably get their opinion: The Sahara can reach 40-50 degrees while the South Pole can get as cold as -70. So 4 degrees here doesn't SOUND that much.
16:42.01AdmiralPandaprecisely, but what they don't understand is it's the difference that kills
16:42.28AdmiralPandaan instant, sustained change of 4 degrees would cause significant impact to the ecosystems of the world
16:42.52AdmiralPandathe only species that would survive in any great numbers are the ones which go for quantity over quality in terms of reproduction
16:43.00WormyIt also makes the new phase climate unpredictable.
16:43.03OfficerJackalAlso reptiles.
16:43.05MonetPossums - Wahey
16:43.06OfficerJackal:?
16:43.09OfficerJackal:/*
16:43.23AdmiralPandareptiles are an iffy one
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16:43.38AdmiralPandasmaller ones would be able to ride it out, but larger ones are in for trouble if the temperature gets colder
16:44.23WormyThough it could have a positive feedback effect of self-amplification.  Increase Co2 emissions would warm up the methane traps of Siberia, which in turn enter the atmosphere, creeping the warmer/wetter conditions northwards, melting more methane clathrates
16:44.26MonetI've met one guy who distrusts climatologists because "they keep changing their minds", like deciding after spending fifteen years calling it global warming, decided to rename the theory "climate change"
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16:44.49AdmiralPandathey renamed it because the latter is more accurate
16:44.56OluapPlayerspu
16:44.59AdmiralPandasome parts are getting colder, so global warming doesn't cover everything
16:45.03Xhou
16:45.08Wormyhi
16:45.35MonetAdmiralPanda: Yeah I mentioned that ,to which he replied "but the climate is always changing"
16:45.51AdmiralPandaand those people don't understand the issue
16:45.59AdmiralPandait's not the change, it's the rate of change
16:46.09MonetI don't know if he's confused it with weather or if he assumes he's talkign about subtle and gradual changes
16:46.30AdmiralPandaanyone who uses that argument doesn't know what they're talking about
16:47.37MonetSadly true.
16:48.16AdmiralPandahm, watching my friend play Space Engineers just gave me inspiration for a sci-fi story
16:48.31WormyI'd add that it is also going to make the climate enter a new phase that we can't predict very well
16:48.40MonetOh lovely.
16:50.40MonetLooking at that USA Today article. What it's suggesting is "BP says that it'll be 53.3 years before we run out of oil, HOWEVER we're finding new shale gas deposits lately so this is not quite true"
16:50.58AdmiralPandaa few characters get stranded on an abandoned colony, then work together to repair the colony's infrastructure/repair a ship in order to get off
16:52.33Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t1.0-9/10441276_254453398085357_6592134538689185258_n.jpg Have some feminazism
16:53.22AdmiralPandaabout the only respectable thing in that post is she admits she's a radical
16:53.43MonetAll I can say about the USA Today article is "Way to go burying your heads in the sand Murica"
16:53.58XhoOluapPlayer: Left a comment on the Adsiduus
16:54.10AdmiralPandabefore things get too far along, what do you guys think of that idea I put up?
16:54.36MonetAdmiralPanda: I'd love ot see a story lik that.
16:55.08AdmiralPandaalso, anyone want to get involved?
16:55.37MonetPerhaps
16:55.39HachimanWould their be fighting involved?
16:55.47HachimanXho: comment on dirivir pls
16:56.01MonetHachiman: A situation like this, the survivors are almost bound to get irritable at some point
16:56.31HachimanMonet: I meant actual threats to their survival
16:57.03OluapPlayerXho: I don't really get it but thanks hur
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16:57.04Hachiman_Fucking goddamnit piece of shitputer
16:57.16XhoOluapPlayer: It basically means 'You drag the name 'Elf' through the mud'
16:57.31Hachiman_Monet: I meant actual threats to their survival, like a sense of urgency, like in Alien or similar lines
16:57.36OluapPlayerLook who's talking hur
16:57.37AdmiralPandaHachiman_: there could be fighting involved, possibly against wildlife or possibly native sentients or even automated defences
16:57.47XhoShiarchon - go fuk urselves
16:57.55AdmiralPandain fact, that gave me a great idea
16:58.34AdmiralPandathe environment is hostile, the atmosphere is unbreathable, making repairing the colony not just convenient but ESSENTIAL to their survival, however the colony's defences are still active
16:59.05Hachiman_Would this be set in the standard fictionverse?
16:59.12AdmiralPandaI don't see why not
16:59.21AdmiralPandaI could use this as an opportunity to give the ISF some face time
17:04.32Quark8AdmiralPanda: Can I join in thing?
17:05.00AdmiralPandayou can, I still have to work out the details of the thing but I don't see much reason to say no at the present
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17:06.10Hachiman_Why would their be multiple species there, whose defences are we using, which territory is this, how are these defences gonna be a threat if we have T2 civvies there
17:07.13XhoHachiman_: quoted
17:07.17AdmiralPandathose are the details I'm working out
17:07.20Hachiman_yey
17:07.32TekDroidAdmiralPanda: I've got Space Engineers. It's really fun for early Alpha.
17:08.06AdmiralPandaand I think the non sentient wildlife and colony defences mix works better than T2 civvies
17:08.22AdmiralPandaso the colony would have been established by a more prominent race and subsequently abandoned
17:09.22AdmiralPandaas to why multiple species might be there, I know right off the bat why the ISF would be there, it's the others I'm not so sure about
17:09.41AdmiralPandaI'd be better able to work it out once I have a character roster
17:09.54TekDroidCollaborative operation on a ship goes wrong and crashes?
17:10.03AdmiralPandaas for territory, wherever's most convenient for the characters to be
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17:11.34AdmiralPandahur
17:12.04OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Year_6#PR_Stunt_Gone_Wrong chek this and the section below it
17:16.05AdmiralPandawould you slap me if I said it tinged of cliche? the section was well written though
17:16.41OluapPlayerTell that to Monet hur
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17:17.43OluapPlayerrandum
17:17.46The_RandomnessHello everyone
17:17.47AdmiralPandaI see
17:17.54AdmiralPandahi
17:18.14AdmiralPandaQuark8: If you were to get involved, what character would you use? same to Hachiman_
17:19.05The_RandomnessWhat's this?
17:20.09AdmiralPandaa fiction idea
17:20.34The_RandomnessAh
17:21.17Hachiman_Probably a Cyrodi or a Caltaunoi, a species that isn't as capable as Zazane
17:23.07TekDroidAdmiralPanda: Here's an idea.Have an international group of engineers meet and have things go wromg.
17:23.18XhoWhat's this about now
17:23.25AdmiralPandaa fiction idea
17:23.26Hachiman_That's teh general outline of the fiction Tek
17:23.36Hachiman_We're on about specifics
17:23.47XhoYeah I got that
17:23.48XhoElaborate
17:23.56AdmiralPandaI can justify the ISF being anywhere because they're everyhwere
17:24.23AdmiralPandaXho: very briefly, a few characters get stranded on an abandoned colony, then work together to repair the colony's infrastructure/repair a ship in order to get off
17:24.33AdmiralPandawith various environmental threats to add drama
17:24.56XhoHm
17:25.11XhoI would join but most of my species tend to be quite powerful
17:25.40AdmiralPandaI noticed :P although it would be useful to have at least one "powerful" character so we don't have a nerdsquad
17:25.51The_RandomnessOh I like how this sounds
17:25.58Hachiman_At least one but I feel that everybody may want one
17:26.00The_RandomnessCould I possibly join? :3
17:26.05Hachiman_Thus the threats aren't threats anymore
17:26.26AdmiralPandathe more people we have the harder it would be to run, but the five of us seems manageable
17:26.27XhoNu - now how the fuck did I get here
17:26.29TekDroidYou could have that one character be a surviving security guard
17:26.51AdmiralPandayeah, see Nu is powerful to the point that practically nothing is a threat
17:27.17XhoNu - except for rabbits
17:27.33XhoHm
17:27.44TekDroidI think really you should try to avoid having any overpowered characters.
17:27.48XhoWell I can't use an Agent in that respect and I'm not sure why an Agent would be there
17:28.01XhoAgents aren't really known for joining nerdsquads
17:28.04AdmiralPandathe plan isn't really to use an established character
17:28.21XhoThat being said there are 114,200 different Agents I could use
17:28.34TekDroidO.O
17:28.44AdmiralPandamumble mumble
17:28.58XhoBut no I'm not gonna use an Agent
17:29.12TekDroidIf a couple agents can win a war...
17:29.33AdmiralPandaThat's Xho for you, why use a peen mallet when you can use a sledgehammer :P
17:29.36XhoMainly on the basis that an Agent wouldn't be in a team with aliens
17:30.18XhoI could use a Mahanayan character if I make one up
17:30.24XhoThey're strong but not invincible
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17:30.40Hachiman_Which brings me to another question; what use would a team of aliens be, if we're going for a set territory it's likely only one of them will know what the fuck they're doing because aliens
17:30.40Sporeraptorhi
17:30.41XhoAt least Mahanayans that are not Colossi/Dominion affiliated
17:31.29AdmiralPandaHachiman_: science doesn't change, so as long as the technology employed is fairly standard, those problems aren't so big
17:31.36The_Randomnessbrb
17:31.41AdmiralPandaand the language barrier is another plot point
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17:32.41TekDroidWell if they were gathered there had to have been some kind of translator.
17:32.58AdmiralPandaI kinda like the idea of an accidental meeting more than something organised
17:33.21The_Randomness^
17:33.21AdmiralPandathat's just me though, and it's a it harder to put together
17:36.31AdmiralPandaas I said, a member of the ISF being there isn't too unlikely, a ship could have detected the colony's energy signature and dispatched a scout they were planning to pick up later, it's just the others to get there
17:44.06AdmiralPandathe colony itself could be a prefabricated structure created to a local standard technology, so there would be difficulty adapting but once people get the idea things go a lot faster
17:46.39The_Randomnesswb
17:46.43Technobliteratorhola
17:46.53AdmiralPandahi
17:47.17OluapPlayerdumba
17:47.32Technobliteratorya dads dum
17:51.17Quark8hi
17:51.42AdmiralPandaQuark8: What kind of character would you use for this fic if you joined?
17:53.31AdmiralPandaHachiman_: A Cyrodi would be interesting since they have a higher metabolic rate, their priorities would be significantly different from an ISF technocrat
17:54.22Hachiman_A starved Cyrodi may also be murderous hur
17:54.45AdmiralPandahur
17:56.47AdmiralPandaso what kind of person would this Cyrodi be? more in terms of occupation really
17:58.28Hachiman_Probably either a bodyguard or a hired gun to keep the place safe prior to it falling to shit
18:00.14Hachiman_I imagine he would have some technical know-how though I imagine, like how soldiers in real life are versed with technical equipment
18:00.18AdmiralPandaright, so between you, me and Random we have a fighty person, a tech-minded person and a biology-minded person
18:00.27AdmiralPandain very broad terms
18:00.31Hachiman_Aye
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18:02.28MonetHello.
18:02.37Quark8Hello.
18:03.24Quark8AdmiralPanda: I would use one of my races(a Ssissh). He would be a engineering kind of thing and possibly a bodyguard.
18:04.20AdmiralPandaby engineering I assume you mean the more structural kind
18:04.56Quark8Yeah.
18:05.04AdmiralPandathis is quite a rounded out group
18:05.40Quark8Yep.
18:06.45AdmiralPandanow we just have to figure out how a Cyrodi, Ssissh, Salsetthe and a technocrat (original race means nothing to the ISF because cybernetic bodies- and this one is more for utility than anything else) all wind up in the same place
18:07.14XhoLeaving me out then are we
18:07.31AdmiralPandaI may have kinda forgot you were interested
18:07.40The_RandomnessIt seems so.
18:07.49XhoI have a better idea for a character
18:07.55AdmiralPandain that case, those four plus Xho's character
18:08.03Quark8Who are the users interested?
18:08.16AdmiralPandayou, me, Hachi, Random and Xho
18:08.26AdmiralPandaand I think that's enough
18:10.59AdmiralPandaXho: So what's your idea?
18:11.27XhoSo we have a biology guy, tech guy and fight guy
18:11.35XhoI'm a little lost now
18:11.50AdmiralPandaeveryone's a bit of everything really
18:13.48XhoI suppose a Kicath could be a translator if there is a language barrier there
18:14.06XhoKicath are among the few species in the Gigaquadrant who are flexible in language
18:14.11XhoWell, very flexible
18:14.17The_RandomnessI'm not sure if there would be, I would assume that the Salsetthe would be able to account for that
18:14.32The_RandomnessIf there is one, because yay robot
18:14.35AdmiralPandathat and technocrats speak in computer code
18:14.55The_Randomnessreturn 0;
18:14.56AdmiralPandayou don't have to try to fill a niche, it sorta just happened that way
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18:15.19Quark8Hello.
18:15.57dromhello
18:16.42dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/1b3ciHT
18:20.55dromhttp://i.imgur.com/CJNl9TX.png
18:23.40AdmiralPandaactually I just realised, an inter-party translator would actually be really necessary
18:24.03Hachiman_But
18:24.15Hachiman_Mostly everybody has built-in translators
18:24.20The_Randomness^
18:24.45AdmiralPandahm true
18:26.33dromIt would be amazing to see how it looks like in a choosen language when translated from english.
18:27.47AdmiralPandaa lot of people do that
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18:31.43Quark8Hello.
18:31.44MonetThing is if we have characters speaking their native languages....not everyone has full distionaries of words
18:32.23dromwhat did I miss while my client clogged up?
18:32.41Quark8Same.
18:33.41XhoKicath - :goodluckdealingwithmyshit:
18:34.59AdmiralPandaoh god the best thing ever just happened in this Space Engineers playthrough
18:35.48AdmiralPandaone guy in a mining ship just took out an attacking bandit by dropping a huge chunk of rock out of an access port
18:36.12AdmiralPandaby some miracle the rock hit the bandit's cockpit and ripped a hole straight through the ship
18:36.30The_Randomnesslol
18:37.38MonetNasty
18:38.03Quark8:{
18:39.15AdmiralPandahah, now they're working on a ship that uses that as a primary means of attack :P
18:39.27dromgoddamnit, I want to join with AdmiralPanda
18:40.11AdmiralPandaI would prefer to exist as an independent being thank you very much, if you're talking about the fic I'm wary of having too many characters
18:41.25Quark8About that anything about happen while I was gone?
18:41.31TekDroidWas that in single player or multiplayer fir Space Engineers?
18:42.06AdmiralPandamultiplayer, three guys in the show and there's about nine other guys who drop in every so often to antagonise them
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18:42.24drom_I guess I'll join a random server instead then.
18:42.43AdmiralPandapor que?
18:44.14drom_found a server that had "pubic" instead of public in it's name
18:45.11OluapPlayerolol
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18:45.40Xhodig nibbit
18:45.46OluapPlayerur a nibbit
18:45.52Xhok den
18:46.04drom_ngh, diarrhea alert!
18:46.21XhoOn the list of things I need to know
18:46.23XhoThat was not on it
18:46.44AdmiralPanda^
18:47.14AdmiralPanda"There's only one thing we can do… tell my gummy bears I love the-*crashes into enemy ship*"
18:48.20XhoSantorakh - beautiful
18:49.08TekDroidI'll have to try a MP server at some point.
18:49.15XhoMP server?
18:49.23OluapPlayerNow the gummy bears are orphans
18:49.24TekDroidmultiplayer.
18:49.27OluapPlayeri crai everytiem
18:50.17AdmiralPandawell, for once his tendency to crash his ship into everything came in handy
18:50.42AdmiralPandaseriously, these guys have owned seven ships, he's crashed nine of them
18:50.51AdmiralPandamy math is correct, he's crashed two stolen ships too
18:51.03OluapPlayerhur
18:51.21MonetDriving skill level: Nu
18:51.28XhoNu - My skill is excellent
18:52.03TekDroidI'd been building a fancy drill in my offline game. It's about 150m og going forward at full speed ahead. XD
18:52.05AdmiralPandaoh god they found his body, now they're using their mining transport ship to drag him back to their base to bury him
18:52.11TekDroidO.o
18:52.45Monet"Rest in peace(es)"
18:53.02AdmiralPandaapparently if you die in an explosion you leave behind a charred corpse that can be picked up by landing gears
18:53.22TekDroidThe cargo ship feature for that game is interesting. Especially when you hijack a military ship.
18:53.52Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KLO0l3e-6w Nu's psychotic rampage music
18:54.01AdmiralPandanow they're whacking him around trying to get him into a corridor so they can move him over to the graveyard
18:54.34TekDroidBecause AI military cargo ships basically have a hidden reverse thruster placed in front of a nuke. You can probably guess the result. XD
18:54.47AdmiralPandahur
18:55.38TekDroidFirst two times it happened I thought it was a bug.
18:56.34AdmiralPandaoh wow, they punched a hole in the bandits' staging post with a gravity-based coilgun
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19:00.05Tek0516DroidWhat was this coilgun you mentioned?
19:00.35AdmiralPandawell, after seeing how effective floating rocks are at killing bandits, the guys decided to try out "motivating" the rocks to kill bandits
19:01.21AdmiralPandaso they constructed a ring with four gravity generators and a connector to eject rocks from storage, plugged that onto the front of their multipurpose ship, and used it to wreck one of the bandits staging posts
19:02.25Technobliteratorbrb
19:05.54drom_sorry for the disburding alert I gave earlier.
19:08.10drom_disburding... I give up.
19:08.52AdmiralPandanow they're talking about turning the guy who sacrificed himself to destroy the first bandit ship into a cyborg
19:09.01Tek0516DroidO.o
19:09.06AdmiralPandabtu get this: they're not using metal to make the cyborg body, they're using gummy bears
19:09.31MonetWat
19:09.31Tek0516DroidAre we even talking about the same game?
19:09.47drom_Is that a RP server?
19:09.59AdmiralPandait's a youtube playthrough
19:10.19AdmiralPandathey just make up random stuff to make it more entertaining in between building montages and the occasional bandit raid
19:10.24drom_Oh well.
19:11.20drom_My internet is way terrible to upload something, including multiplayer games. I guess I'll go full forever alone and play SP-games in my corner.
19:11.59Tek0516DroidI had a fun idea last night of how you can technically make a giant Mecha in Space Engineers.
19:12.14AdmiralPandaoh?
19:12.25AdmiralPandalet me guess, lots of rotors?
19:12.43Tek0516DroidThough it falls more into Awesome but impractical, because the rotor control would be a nightmare.
19:13.00AdmiralPandayeah, you couldn't make it combat viable
19:13.31Tek0516DroidUnless you just keep the arm weapons facing forward.
19:14.01drom_It looks like Dark Byte (creators of Cheat Engine) is having a birthday today.
19:14.31AdmiralPandaoh god, literally five minutes after reviving he's crashed another ship
19:14.42Tek0516DroidThough you could theoretically create partially viability with a large enough crew.
19:14.48Tek0516DroidLol.
19:16.48drom_This is why I always join the team with the most trustable friends.
19:17.20AdmiralPandaand now they're cannibalising the bandit ship to create their own large ship
19:17.46AdmiralPanda"It's only been cut right in fucking half, put a band-aid on it and it's good to go eh?"
19:17.55Quark8Fun.
19:18.10AdmiralPandafortunately merge blocks exist
19:18.34Tek0516DroidYeah.
19:19.06AdmiralPandain fact that's what they're doing, they're gonna use merge blocks to join the two halves then connect it back together
19:19.57Tek0516DroidCombat in creative mode of the game is rather hilarious.
19:20.17Tek0516DroidImagine infinite amount, continuous fire missile launchers.
19:20.17Tek0516Droid*ammo
19:20.49AdmiralPandabbl
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19:21.07TekDroidodd.
19:22.51AngrybirdsPanda: Can you give me a link to this video? xD
19:31.54TekDroidSorry, was trying something in another channel.
19:32.08SporeraptorAngrybirds: From what he told, i guess it is this channel http://www.youtube.com/user/SleepArtGameEat ( though i forgot which episode it is ) ( it might however be alos one of teh linked channels a swell, they have the same, just from a different POV )
19:32.41AngrybirdsThanks!
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19:36.06SpuHachiman_: I wonder who's more overpowered, an Agent or Jack-6
19:36.36Hachiman_In fairness Jack-6 can fly if I remember correctly
19:47.38SpuOh god Lars' ending in TTT2
19:48.15SpuIt has Jun, Jin, Kazuya, Heihachi, Asuka and Lars all eating at a table and everyone but Lars manages to eat since they're all eating incredibly quickly
19:48.33Technobliteratorbah, babysitting is tough
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19:52.18TekDroidHello
19:53.57Sporeraptorhi
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20:10.36GhelHello.
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20:17.57OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_VlmEamUQ
20:19.44Hachiman_olol
20:20.34OluapPlayer"the video cut out the last part so shrek just said "dong" "
20:20.46OluapPlayerExpand Swamp
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20:27.52Guest21143ohey it worked
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20:29.14OluapPlayerNo it didn't lol
20:29.50OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Son_of_Gotla#Knowledge_of_the_Past new section
20:29.58Hachiman_Aye reed that
20:31.03Monet_Busy, sory
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20:37.29Hachiman_hai
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20:40.02HachimanShitty fucking internet cunt
20:40.21HachimanTechnobliterator: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Son_of_Gotla#Knowledge_of_the_Past reed pls
20:40.48Monet_I wonder... "Who dares, wins" or "always faithful".
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21:02.59Monet_"I don't have fireworks in my handbag I'm not mental. I got this though *pulls out a dead pigeon from her bag*" >> some old woman probably with dementia from the TV show Not Going Out
21:05.42Technobliteratoruh
21:05.43Technobliteratorsure
21:06.30Monet_I'm guessing this owman has dementia because she is quite forgetful.
21:07.26TechnobliteratorTraslia reminded me of Zidane there
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21:12.41Monet_Evenin'
21:13.24Val_Evening
21:13.38Technobliteratorbuenos noches
21:13.46Val_Though its only 4 pm here
21:13.52Val_Buenas noches!
21:14.06Technobliteratoroh fuck, I got my masculine and feminine wrong again >.<
21:14.10Technobliteratornoches always confuses me
21:14.32Val_noche is feminine
21:14.53Val_because you use articles "la" and "las" (plural) for "noche"
21:15.10Technobliteratoryeah
21:15.13TechnobliteratorI always forget D:
21:15.30Val_So you're learning spanish?
21:16.13TechnobliteratorYep
21:16.31Technobliteratorestudio esto en colegio
21:17.20HachimanSo nobody cares about Tetra stuff
21:17.21HachimanCool
21:18.46Monet_I rarely get comments on pulbished stories but that doesn't stop me making fiction.
21:20.05Val_Cool
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21:35.31Technobliteratoroh I didn't give any actual feedback yet
21:35.55Technobliteratorit's cool, but I don't think tabbers are suitable, it means that you have to scroll up to click a new tab which is harder for a story to flow naturally
21:36.20Technobliteratorno complaints other than that, story is enjoyable, Tetra is likable
21:36.33OluapPlayerThat's a shame because I'm not changing it hur
21:37.04Technobliteratorya moms dum
21:37.57Monet_That's why I try to keep my tabber sections to a screen.
21:38.07Monet_well, a screens' height
21:38.37Val_gtg
21:38.43Val_see ya around
21:39.56Technobliteratorif you want to make something togglable, or selectable, like a tabber, then collapsibles suit better in this case
21:40.28Technobliteratorthe scrolling thing, I could js that problem into non-existence
21:40.39Technobliteratorit just doesn't feel natural
21:41.20Monet_sighs
21:41.59Technobliteratorquestions why Monet is sighing about nothing
21:42.29MonetIdunno it seems like you have a coding suggestion for everything.
21:42.38Technobliteratorand?
21:43.00HachimanIce Age and its subplots are getting to that point where emotions are flowing fervently
21:43.17HachimanLots of feels ahead
21:43.23OluapPlayeryeh
21:43.40OluapPlayerAs said by E3 EA man
21:43.44OluapPlayerOLL THE FEEELLSH
21:43.47HachimanALL THE FEELSUH
21:44.33OluapPlayerok bye
21:45.24Technobliteratorand since you're not elaborating, Monet, allow me to elaborate: I have a suggestion for everything, and so what? if you do not like the suggestion, then you do not use it. And why exactly is it a problem that I give suggestions anyway? if anything it shows I actually care enough to try and help
21:46.10MonetMaybe you're right.
21:46.30HachimanOh Jo, one thing I've been wondering regarding creature page content
21:46.33Technobliteratorfurthermore, I created the original standard layout lots of fictions follow, they follow that because they chose to follow it. Cyrannian chose to create his own layout, which works fine for him, that was out of his own choice
21:46.36Technobliteratorsure
21:46.38Technobliteratorwhat's up
21:46.42Technobliterator?
21:47.02HachimanWould I be able to use collapsables in order to convey more info into sections on creature pages?
21:47.11TechnobliteratorUrm, yeah, of course
21:47.21Technobliteratorneed help with that?
21:47.38HachimanGood cuz I always feel paranoid about my creature sections being too long or not conveying enough info
21:47.54Technobliteratorlol, they contain more info than mine that's for sure :P
21:48.07Hachimancuz ur a scrublady
21:48.21Technobliteratordo you want sliding collapsibles like http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Technobliterator or static ones like {{Navbox}} ?
21:49.57HachimanSliding collapsibles look good, but your ones look way too large and bold for my tastes :P
21:50.18Technobliteratoralright
21:50.19Technobliteratorthe code is:
21:50.43Technobliterator(if I can remember it)
21:51.45Technobliterator<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collasped">Title
21:51.46Technobliterator<div class="mw-collpasible-content>Content</div>
21:51.46Technobliterator</div>
21:51.47Technobliteratorshould work
21:52.19Hachimanrite lemme go and test dis
21:52.39TechnobliteratorI could template it so everyone can have their own http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Technobliterator/Technobox thingies, but it depends on opinions
21:56.47dromhttp://i.imgur.com/fUvaZLG.jpg
21:57.23Hachimanolol
21:57.52HachimanTechnobliterator: I wouldn't do so just quite yet but it's a nice option to have
21:58.05Technobliteratoralright
21:59.44HachimanI wonder if I'm too harsh on Tetra hur
22:00.06HachimanFirst I have him get pummelled by a Zarkhator, then I have him lose his arms and undergo augmentation
22:00.49TechnobliteratorBarret - i feel u bro
22:00.52Hachimanolol
22:01.07HachimanI never did get what happened to Barret, since I got lost on FF7
22:01.21Technobliteratorget un-lost nub
22:01.35HachimanThat game is fucking hard to navigate sometimes
22:01.46Technobliteratorwell I'm sure there's a let's play that can help you out
22:01.48Technobliteratorwhich bit was it?
22:01.52HachimanWell
22:01.56HachimanYou know the second reactor
22:02.05Monethttp://www.platformnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/DXHR_Screenshot_BarrettSmiling.jpg so not this Barret(t).
22:02.12Technobliteratoryeah
22:02.20HachimanThe one where Cloud is solo and stuff
22:02.25HachimanWell I planted the bomb
22:02.28HachimanAnd can't get out hur
22:02.31dromWormy: http://i.imgur.com/s5EKb6r.gif
22:03.03Technobliterator1 sec
22:03.23HachimanAlso I don't like Cloud very much
22:03.55Technobliteratoryou're not meant to like him early on
22:04.00HachimanI get he's supposed to be a cool badass loner type but I just think he's coming off as unnecessarily rude a lot of the time
22:04.01Technobliteratorhe's a prick, but unlike Squall, he redeems himself
22:04.17TechnobliteratorCloud is the classic example of a character that begins unlikable
22:04.23Technobliteratorbut becomes good later
22:04.33HachimanI'll take your word for it hur
22:04.39Technobliteratorhe's not the best protagonist in the series, that title goes to Zidane
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22:05.18OfficerJackalHello
22:05.19OfficerJackal!*
22:05.33Technobliteratorhttp://youtu.be/b-ez-mjQjb4?t=1m40s found it
22:05.50dromgreetings
22:06.17HachimanTechnobliterator: They should remake the old Metal Gear games at some point, like the one with Zanzibar Land where you fight Frank Jaeger for the first time and Big Boss
22:06.26TechnobliteratorI agree
22:06.37Technobliteratorbut Kojima said he wouldn't like to work on it himself
22:06.53Hachimanbutbut
22:06.58HachimanFrank Jaeger <3
22:07.01Technobliteratorya
22:07.03TechnobliteratorGrey Fox is amazingf
22:07.12Technobliteratoroh wait
22:07.20Technobliteratorit's 2:55 on that video that you want
22:07.24Technobliteratorassuming you planted the bomb already
22:07.25Hachimanrite
22:07.50dromHachiman: http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20140626.png
22:07.57Technobliteratorthe game's only a pain to navigate it because it's old, you kind of get used to it as you play on
22:08.24HachimanI remember that initially MGR was gonna focus on Frank Jaeger in concept, then the time between MGS 2 and MGS 4 from Raiden's perspective
22:08.55TechnobliteratorI wish they'd done that
22:08.59Technobliteratorthe 2-4 bit
22:09.16HachimanAye
22:09.28HachimanIt seems like so much shit happened between MGS 2 and MGS 4 it's unbelievable
22:09.35Technobliteratoryup
22:09.45HachimanAlthough MGS 3 was good enough for me hur
22:09.57TechnobliteratorMGS3 is a flawless masterpiece and the greatest game of all time <3
22:10.13HachimanEven the laborous task of healing Big Boss during fights?
22:10.40Technobliteratorpfft, if you have to heal him during fights then you suck noob
22:10.46Hachimanhuehue
22:12.20HachimanYou know
22:12.20HachimanAt some point
22:12.24HachimanGame about The Boss
22:13.06Technobliteratorthe boss ;_;
22:13.13Technobliteratorwell Kojima considered it at one point
22:13.37TechnobliteratorI would love it, the Boss is possibly my favourite character
22:13.43HachimanKojima didn't make a game about a strong independent woman gg anti-feminazi chauvinist pig
22:14.06Technobliteratorfeminazi team noob report
22:15.25dromOh noes. Only 162 GB left on my 2 TB HDD. And it's glowin' all red!
22:15.36Technobliterator:o
22:15.54Technobliteratormy HDD is a mess
22:16.03Technobliteratorbecause, well, it has files from 2 OSes on it
22:17.01HachimanImagine if Kojima and Square Enix teamed up to make a game
22:17.26HachimanSnake becomes an animu
22:17.31HachimanRaiden is already an animu
22:17.32TechnobliteratorI would die of happiness
22:18.07TechnobliteratorSnake vs Kefka plz
22:18.25HachimanAlso I love the justification for people using swords in the Metal Gear universe; the guys using these swords are usually unaffected by standard gunfire hur
22:18.48MonetThat's because they use swords to deflect the bullets
22:19.04Technobliteratortheir swords are high frequency blades too
22:19.06HachimanOr rather they're usually cyborgs that just soak up damage automatically
22:19.13dromOnly 864 MB of that taken space is junk.
22:19.26MonetSam's first opponent had an LMG.
22:19.42HachimanSam's different cuz he's not a cybrogre
22:19.56TechnobliteratorRaiden was not a cyborg in MGS2
22:19.57MonetHe is a cyborg.
22:20.07Technobliteratorhe first got his HFB then
22:20.08HachimanSam's only got a cybernetic arm
22:20.09MonetThat right arm of Sam's is robotic
22:20.12HachimanHe's otherwise normal
22:20.24MonetNormal paart form some kind of accelleration suit
22:20.42Technobliteratorcybogre? :o
22:20.45HachimanAye
22:20.48HachimanCybrogre
22:20.58Technobliteratorwell yeah
22:21.03Technobliteratorsam is not a cybogre :o
22:21.06HachimanStill, a lot of his abilities come from just pure skill with his blade
22:21.17TechnobliteratorVamp - bitch plz
22:21.49MonetSam was able to keep up with Raiden when they first fought because that armour of his made his legs and arms fast enough.
22:23.10MonetI do wonder the physics of deflecting bullets with a blade
22:23.20Technobliteratorsomething relating to HFBs
22:23.21HachimanRealistically you can't really
22:23.38HachimanHFBs vibrate fast enough that bullets just bounce off I think
22:23.45TechnobliteratorOcelot was a master of ricochet
22:24.10MonetEven if you could hit the blade with a bullet, most swords might shatter when a bullet impacts.
22:24.19HachimanIf you tried deflecting a bullet with a normal blade, expect your blade to break
22:24.33HachimanAlthough you CAN cut a bullet in half while its in midair
22:25.56HachimanI gotta wonder how MGR2, if it ever gets made, expects to top MGR
22:25.57HachimanBecause NANOMACHINES, SON
22:26.12Technobliteratorit will be made
22:26.29Technobliteratorand it will top MGR because Metal Gear's always manage to top the previous games
22:26.35Technobliteratorexcept MGS3, which no one will ever beat
22:26.37MonetKnowing Japan, someone better than Armstrong will come along
22:26.53HachimanI kinda fear that MGS5 may be the last Metal Gear
22:26.55HachimanAlthough Kojima always says that about Metal Gear hur
22:27.12Technobliteratorhe says that every game ._.
22:27.15Technobliteratorhe will never give it up
22:28.04HachimanGonna be hard to set the stage for another MGS game after 5 though
22:28.15HachimanUnless we end up getting taken into the future again
22:28.28Technobliteratoror unless 5 doesn't conclude Big Boss' story
22:28.34HachimanTrue
22:28.51MonetMost MGS games are set a few years after the game's release.
22:29.02TechnobliteratorMGS3 is not
22:29.04TechnobliteratorMGS5 is not
22:29.11Technobliteratorbut otherwise true
22:29.14TechnobliteratorOH YEAH
22:29.18HachimanMGS5 is set sometime after MGS3 though hur
22:29.19TechnobliteratorMGS4 WAS SET THIS YEAR
22:29.25Technobliterator:O
22:29.31Technobliteratorright my time's up
22:29.34MonetSet this year...yet no sign of SoP.
22:29.41Technobliteratorhachi play FFVII and follow let's play plz
22:29.42HachimanI don't see no cowbots yet
22:29.43Technobliteratornow i'm off
22:29.44Technobliteratorbyees
22:31.20MonetI can't believe it too kme until between MGS4 and Rising before I realised Kojima's nanomachines do whatever the plot demands.
22:31.33Hachimanlol
22:31.58HachimanSenator Armstrong pretty much confirms that
22:32.03HachimanWith "Nanomachines, son!"
22:32.28MonetI get it
22:33.09dromSteam files makes up 800 GB across 1 000 000 files of my HDD.
22:33.51MonetAlthough if his skin becomes metal, either those namomachines create some sort of diamond-hard fabric or the game ignores tha possibility that such an action would immobilise whatever part of his body he's hardening.
22:34.41HachimanKeep in mind that Armstrong regenerates
22:35.00HachimanSam cut off Armstrong's arm in his DLC if I remember correctly
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22:35.36MonetSo...is his body rebuilding itself?
22:35.45The_RandomnessHello everyone
22:35.59MonetAhh videogame logic.
22:38.46MonetThe most advanced nanomachines that I know we have are a drug dispersal system to make delivery more specific within a person's body.
22:39.22The_RandomnessWhich are really cool btw
22:40.45MonetFor instance, aspirin - with these nanomachines the chemical will only be delivered to the brain, reducing the side effect of blood thinning within the rest of the body.
22:43.10MonetOkay so its not as cool as regrowing an arm with nanoscale machines, its still a clever idea
22:44.03dromhttp://imgur.com/a/rW2gX
22:48.14The_RandomnessNanotechnology is so cool
22:50.33dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/xeQzIQ1.png
22:50.45Hachimanolol
22:58.44WormyBack
22:59.00WormyRoom 95% complete
22:59.05The_RandomnessNice
22:59.14WormyHachi, Monet:  I'm going to decorate my room into cyberpunk style
23:00.10WormyIts going to be hard to not make it look consumerwhore though
23:00.25WormyPerhaps I should make some things in it out of old computer parts?
23:00.33The_RandomnessI wouldn't worry about that
23:00.42HachimanMaybe a mix and match:?
23:00.47Wormyyeah
23:00.56WormyObviously, I need stuff like rope lights
23:01.01The_RandomnessJust try and make it look as good as you can
23:01.27HachimanI still wonder what sorta look I wanna give my room]
23:05.36HachimanI was thinking of maybe a sorta Lovecraftian-era vibe
23:06.05HachimanAlthough I've also fallen in love with cyberpunk stuff
23:06.08WormyThis is kind of like what I'm after http://digital-art-gallery.com/oid/85/971x605_14906_Trip_s_room_2d_sci_fi_girl_woman_cyberpunk_picture_image_digital_art.jpg  http://g-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/1625058/072310_rg_CircuitBoardTable_01_rect540.jpg
23:08.22WormyI might get a robot vacuum cleaner
23:08.31Wormyand a levitron to float snacks on
23:09.03Wormy<PROTECTED>
23:09.07Hachimanhttp://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/164/d/5/d5568569450da931ced0d80048a4827b-d7m6sy3.jpg Ideally I'd like a room like this
23:09.36HachimanSomething compact and efficient
23:09.41HachimanYet lots of room for decoration
23:09.56MonetQuite some makeovers
23:10.00Wormything is, I have a lot of stuff, even after my massive clearout, so I I'm going to use the messy side of cyberpunk as an aesthetic
23:10.12Wormywires everywhere
23:10.25Wormycircuit boards dangling
23:10.39Wormysounds almost dangerous, so they won't be electrified
23:12.28Wormywow http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/74/c3/23/74c3239d56c7fcf0a3bdfaadc366f9c2.jpg
23:12.39The_Randomnesseugh
23:12.58Wormyactually, i don't wanbt my room to look as messy as that
23:14.24WormyThe wor;d doesn't quite seem to be heading to the cyberpunk worlds imagined in 70's to 90s
23:14.51WormyBut none-the-less, technologies are what they can are interesting
23:15.42Quark8test
23:15.54MonetThe world hasn't exactly turned out the way peopl hoped.
23:16.43WormyWell, rather than cyberenetic implants, people are using smal devices to extend their "inbfomorphs" and minds, and even wearable technologies
23:17.10WormyAnd rather than pure virtual reality, augmented reality seems to be the thing
23:17.20MonetI live in a semi-detached house built in the 90s but the design hasn't changed much from the 40s or 50s, nothing like this https://cdn.d23.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/061112_FS_DatelineDisney1960_HouseOfTheFuture_FEAT_11.png
23:18.03WormyOn the other hand, the internet became consumerist and not what the 90's cyberdelics and technoravers hoped http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberdelic#Collapse
23:18.28MonetIn fact...I think the only houses that look vaguely like the one I linked were unnessessarily expensive.
23:18.43Monetto build
23:19.57WormyIts not a bad thing that sci-fi becomes zeerust
23:20.19WormyThe Ipod aesthetic will eventually.  I will be glaed to see it go.
23:21.11WormySci-fi does predict the future often being different and that remsins true imo
23:21.25MonetI'm not saying the housing concept was bad its just...50 years on and houses lik that will cost at least a 500K to a million pounds to build.
23:22.03WormyAs Ghelae said, biotech is where computers were in the mid 20th century, not quite recognised in pop culture yet
23:25.30dromtime to go
23:25.33Wormybye
23:25.34dromsee ya
23:25.55WormyTime to add some Lilly waves to the Cetacean page
23:26.41drombefore I go, I thought alot over on a background fact about the Aemonkian's evolution and the lifeforms of Aailli.
23:26.48HachimanApparently the reason why everything tastes like shit on an airplane is because the pressurized cabin fucks with your tastebuds
23:27.53Wormy_fichuh
23:28.05Wormy_ficI like airplane food :/
23:28.14MonetI'm so-so with it
23:28.27dromOne is simple, the Aemonkians and the rest of the lifefroms of Aailli evolved from a mutual species of sentient cells.
23:28.54dromThat's what I can tell now. See ya. I'll tell more next time I have the time.
23:30.27Wormy_ficHachi:  70% of the Earth belongs to the Cetacean nation
23:30.37Wormy_ficjust think
23:30.40HachimanJust as planned
23:31.06Wormy_ficI'm going to re-write the page
23:34.20Hachimanhur imagine cetacean mercenaries
23:34.59HachimanPacks of selectively bred and augmented cetaceans, probably dolphins, designed for the purpose of war
23:35.44HachimanWormy_fic: I had a dream once about dolphins "swimming" through the cloud seas of a gas giant
23:36.14Wormy_ficNice
23:36.17HachimanOr rather dolphin-like creatures
23:36.29HachimanIt was one of the best dreams I'd ever had
23:42.21HachimanWormy_fic: http://m3-f.deviantart.com/art/Suicidal-Scream-of-the-Whales-464470146
23:42.22Wormy_ficI love adventurous dreams, or ones where I have powers to jump immense distances.  But most of my dreams are incredibly weird
23:42.52Wormy_ficAwesome
23:43.07Wormy_ficMakes me wonder about modified super whales
23:43.35HachimanSuper whales that could support entire ecosystems on/inside of them
23:44.01Wormy_ficSometimes I have dreams where I'm still conscious, aware of my body in bed but my mind in some strange virtual reality space
23:44.07Wormy_ficinteresting
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23:54.38MonetI'm not sitting on that bench, I don''t want to get radiation poisioning through my arse.
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