IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140617

00:02.24MonetIf you need help with the statistics just ask
00:03.17AngrybirdsMonet: You could add religion to domestic.
00:03.30AngrybirdsOverall, I LOVE the depth of the info in the tables.
00:04.00TekDroidAgreed
00:04.05AngrybirdsIt absolutely looks like the kind of OCD thing I would conjure up.
00:04.26Monethah, its no trouble :)
00:05.55Monethah, its no trouble :)AngryBirds: WHen you say adding a "religion" statistic do you mean the empire's most comon belief institutions?
00:06.06TekDroidHm... do you think Farengeto is ready to qualify as post-scarcity?
00:06.34AngrybirdsTekDroid: I think so.
00:06.59TekDroidMonet: Why is the Draconid's top export "42"? XD
00:07.01AngrybirdsMonet: Religion, as if whether or not its state sponsored and what the majority religion is.
00:07.25AngrybirdsTekdroid: THEY EXPORT THE ANSWER TO THE UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING
00:07.43ZF10142? How do you export a number?
00:07.59AngrybirdsMonet: What do you mean by the "International policy" box?
00:08.05MonetTekDroid: Originally it was a percentage of how much of their anual production is exported, but AB and I decided listing top exports was better
00:09.10MonetAngrybirds: How open to foreign relations they are. For example the US and UK would be "open exchange" while the DPRK is "isolationist"
00:09.24AngrybirdsUnderstood.
00:09.38TekDroidAngrybirds: The French have 98.9% unemployment? O.o
00:09.43AngrybirdsDiplomatic immunity?
00:09.54AngrybirdsTekDroid: Yep, you read that right.
00:10.07MonetAngrybirds: Does the nation respect the principel or not
00:10.13Monetprinciple*
00:10.18Liquid_InkThe Ottomans makes sure there is always work for their citizens.
00:10.29AngrybirdsAs in, don't kill the messenger?
00:10.55MonetAngrybirds: Yeah
00:12.30TekDroidWhy exactly is the French unemployment so high? XS
00:12.33TekDroid*XD
00:15.21TekDroidAlso, the French flag is almost the only image on the wiki that isn't a png. It's bugging me now. XD
00:16.08ZF101Really?
00:16.21Angrybirds...
00:16.28TekDroid>.>
00:16.38Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File%3AFlag_of_France.png
00:16.56TekDroidHuh.
00:17.09ZF101I don't notice these things. I'm too buzy watching cartoons not intended for my age group.
00:17.12WormylonYou might have been looking at an old uimage flag
00:17.38Wormylon9988 uploaded a load some years ago that might have been jpg
00:19.03TekDroidDamnit... someone changed the economy section while I was editing.
00:19.30AngrybirdsSorry!
00:20.32TekDroidIt's rerouted me to editing the full page. Sorry to anyone currently editing.
00:22.21AngrybirdsTekDroid: Put French in your trade languages. :D
00:23.14TekDroidDone with economy for now.
00:25.11TekDroidThis is also giving me a chance to establish the Farengeto government following the 2800 elections. ;)
00:25.38OfficerJackalhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Civilisations_And_Statistics - Woah, so this is what you were all working on. :O
00:25.46TekDroidYeah.
00:25.54TekDroidEditing military now.
00:26.30MonetJackal: Eveyone is free to add theirs, you just have to be aware if other people are working on a section
00:26.39Monetbefore you start editing it
00:27.20TekDroidTrying to decide the "winners" of the Farengeto Elections and the resulting new High Council...
00:29.02TekDroidFor Chancellor the three main candidates were are idealist, imperialist or CEO who revolutionized the whole of Farengeto society. Guess who wins. :P
00:32.08TekDroidZF101: You had a Spodist empire, right? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:186070
00:36.41TekDroidAngrybirds: Do you think the occupation zones would count as international deployment?
00:38.00TekDroid~test
00:38.00infobotsomebody said test was not funny
00:44.01TekDroidI couldn't think of a third trade contact in the economy section. My biggest ones in Delcath were gone. XD
00:45.31TekDroidAnyone editing politics?
00:46.20MonetNot me. Anyone editing economy?
00:46.43TekDroidNope.
00:48.07TekDroidchecks the Farengeto relations
00:48.16TekDroidHuh. I only have 4 allies.
00:48.59TekDroidAssuming France coumts as an ally.
00:56.15TekDroidOh wait, I know a better trade contact. let me know when you're done with economy,  Monet.
00:56.24MonetI'm done
00:58.33MonetWell its good my tables have been well-recieved
00:59.20TekDroidIndeed.
01:00.03MonetRight, I'm going to head off now. SO long
01:00.36TekDroidnight.
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01:13.19AngrydroidHad to deliver an iron gate to a friend.
01:13.42AngrydroidHow are the statistics coming?
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02:10.56ZF101I've gotta go.
02:11.12ZF101My dad seems to think Summer school is as important as real school. ->-
02:24.07OfficerJackalI love when in World of Tanks, an enemy tank has a machine gun turret, and then starts completely destroying you but each bullet is low in damage. The results are the crew members saying; "ENGINE HIT!" "THE LOADER BOUGHT THE FARM." "WE LOST HALF OF OUR ENGINE POWER" "OUR PERISCOPE IS HIT, WE CAN'T SEE ANYTHING" "TRACK HIT!" at the same exact time pretty much.
02:24.50OfficerJackalIt's funny as hell. XD
02:24.57Angrybirdslol
02:25.40TekDroidlol
02:25.56OfficerJackalUntil you hear. "FIRE, FIRE, SOMEONE PUT IT OUT." then your tank is destroyed. :(
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02:26.44OfficerJackalHello!
02:27.07Knight_AlienHi
02:27.56Knight_AlienWhere is everyone?
02:29.25OfficerJackalIt's late, so most are probably going to bed/doing something else.
02:30.28Knight_AlienOh.
02:48.03TekDroid~test
02:48.04infobotrumour has it, test is not funny
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06:53.33AngrybirdsImpyDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Civilisations_And_Statistics#Domestic
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07:07.21ImpyDroidLe wonderful
07:07.23dromHai.
07:07.24ImpyDroidI like
07:07.26ImpyDroidHi drom
07:07.38dromWhat's wonderful?
07:07.53dromDid I miss something?
07:12.37dromDid I miss a picture of a hot and shiny baguette?
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07:15.41GhelaeHello.
07:20.39dromHoh. I'm now closer to death.
07:23.59GhelaeWell, we're all closer to death with every day that passes.
07:35.30ImpyDroidya
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07:53.27GhelaeHello.
08:02.10AdmiralPandaXho will rejoice, for this day I've started to appreciate the genre of metal music
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08:31.46AngrybirdsAdmiralPanda drom Ghelae : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Civilisations_And_Statistics Monet's doing.
08:32.37dromSaw dat. I'll probably contribute mine soon as I finish my bday poster.
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08:44.43Liquid_InkPluto has five satellites now?
08:45.10AdmiralPandawe never really had the technology or interest to study it, so I suppose it always had five we just never noticed
08:45.51AdmiralPandahm, I should get someone to make an icon for the Fordan Empire itself, not sure what I would use for it though
08:49.25dromI'm always up to help somebody. But I'm afraid that I'm short on time.
09:02.18AdmiralPandawell more accurately I know what the symbol would be, but I don't know what it would look lik
09:02.21AdmiralPandalike*
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09:26.43Liquid_Inkbeats up Impy.
09:28.34Imperiosis covered in spikes
09:35.07Liquid_Inkhas fists of STEEl
09:35.21Liquid_Ink(note that the 'l' is not capitalised)
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09:53.08JepardiHi
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09:57.05ImperiosH
09:57.54Jepardihttp://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aXb6R06_460sa_v1.gif
10:00.00MonetGabe - People go in, empty wallets come out. Gabe just cranks the handle"
10:09.30Jepardihttp://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/arp7zM7_460sa_v1.gif
10:19.41Liquid_Inkpreforms further beating up of Impy.
10:20.56MonetFor some reason the guy identified as Russa makes me think of ROnald McDonals
10:21.00MonetMcDonald*
10:21.36AdmiralPandahi Monet
10:23.37MonetOKay I *may* have cracked as to what makes MLP so popular
10:26.45MonetFor one, Impy tells me that the main protagonists have each gone insane at least once.
10:27.05ImperiosWell, frankly
10:27.15ImperiosI think it was just the whim of 4chan and the rest just followed because it was "cool"
10:27.21Liquid_InkMonet: That's the Netherlands
10:27.31Imperiosya hur
10:27.39MonetLiquid_Ink: FUck my bad
10:28.26MonetYeah but...showing stuff like sociopathy, schitzophrenia and clinical depression on a show for young girls?
10:28.27Liquid_InkThat being said, Peter the Great did base the Russian flag on the Dutch flag.
10:28.42Liquid_InkI think.
10:31.00MonetMLP does seem to show the odd more mature theme
10:31.17MonetThat might pass over the head of a child audience, but hit an adult audience right in the feels
10:31.54MonetSimpsons has been doing something quite similar for years.
10:33.10MonetMy inner psychologist is melting
10:34.57ImperiosYeah
10:35.14ImperiosIt's fairly complex for akids' show
10:36.50ImperiosLiquid_Ink: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Man#History I filled most of the Empire's history now
10:37.02ImperiosWhen do you think could Karacayople join the Empire?
10:37.16ImperiosI assume it would be a relatively recent event
10:38.15MonetYeah and I think the show's attempt at the "include stuff that parents would get to get them t owatch it with their kids" production trick worked out better than the producers had hoped
10:39.36Liquid_InkAbout the second last paragraph?
10:40.59ImperiosSo shortly after the Empire's formation
10:41.31Liquid_InkI guess, yes.
10:41.55Liquid_InkYou still haven't wavyified their flag.
10:42.18ImperiosOh, rite
10:42.21ImperiosGimme the flag again
10:44.08Liquid_Inkhttp://i.imgur.com/jDSvCBS.png
10:45.42ImperiosWait
10:45.47ImperiosI see the belorussian ornament in this
10:45.51ImperiosCarlini - POTATOES
10:46.40Liquid_Ink...wut
10:46.55ImperiosBelorussians are known for their liking of potatoes
10:47.29Liquid_InkI see
11:05.24AdmiralPandaif you want a kid's show that adults appreciate, look no further than Adventure Time
11:05.42MonetAGreed.
11:06.13Monet"the great mushroom war"
11:07.48AdmiralPandaIn other news, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUiOylPbfV0 this song both reminds me of Hel'Bre'K and reminds me why I love Paladins
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11:16.55MonetAdmirapPlanda: "Repent or Die!"
11:22.32ImperiosHi OP
11:24.40ImperiosLiquid_Ink: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140617112334/spore/images/9/95/Karacay_Flag.png Carlini - wavy fwag
11:26.16Liquid_Inkyey
11:26.50OluapPlayerhi
11:27.38MonetHi
11:31.17AdmiralPandahi Oluap
11:31.40AdmiralPandaI may now have some appreciation for the metal genre
11:31.50AdmiralPandahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUiOylPbfV0 also this makes me want to play a paladin again sooooo bad
11:39.58ImperiosPaladins are cool
11:45.31GhelHello.
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12:58.21AdmiralPandahi
13:17.55dromhttp://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/arp7zM7_460sa_v1.gif
13:25.06dromMonet: Mind explain the "international deployment" in the military stats?
13:26.05Monetdrom: How much of an empire's armed forces are stationed in bases and on patrols beyond their borders
13:26.46OluapPlayerI added the Indocs to that page
13:26.48OluapPlayerAnd the Junction hur
13:28.25MonetI can help you fill in the gaps if you like
13:29.16OluapPlayerWhat I left empty are things I never thought about in my fiction
13:29.28OluapPlayerAnd things I just don't understand hur
13:30.30MonetOkay
13:31.21MonetActually I was wondering about adding a few notes to help contributors
13:31.37MonetWhat some of these charts mean for instance
13:32.02OluapPlayerIt'd certainly be helpful
13:33.45MonetAlright. I'll owrk on a full description but first I'll help give a summary on the stuff that you may not understand
13:34.57MonetThe two trending values that seem to cause confusion (or people have nought thought about) is military personnel values and "industry pri/sec/tert"
13:36.15Monet"Industry" refers to where the empire's population is employed. Primary industry si resource gathering such as farming, logging, fishing and mining. Secondary industry is resource processing and manufacturing. Tertiary industry is services such as banking, shops, entertainment etc.
13:36.41Monet"services" also includes research and development
13:39.23MonetThe industry entry is kinda important for working out how advanced the economy is. Well-developed civilisations are likely to only have a small portion of their population performing resource gathering while the vast majority would be in services
13:40.06MonetFor example the UK's workforce is something like 2% primary, 22% secondary and 76% tertiary
13:40.19Monet76%*
13:47.42MonetWOuld you like me to explain active and reserve personnel?
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13:48.45Wormy_semi_herehi
13:48.56OluapPlayerYou can do that
13:48.57OluapPlayerhi
13:48.58MonetHi
13:49.08MonetOkay
13:49.20OluapPlayerRight now I'm updating the Indoc relations page though
13:50.23MonetI noticed after...that day...you removed the Di from Indoc stuff
13:50.59Wormy_semi_hereI don't know what it is about this song that is so heavenly to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k43FJIP9oE&list=PLC3F0A1A3F41E64C5
13:51.43OluapPlayerRemoved from where?
13:51.46OluapPlayerThey're still on the page
13:52.42MonetI remeber not long after my announcement you removed Alessa from Windey's relations list.
13:52.52MonetI might nto have noticed you reverting it
13:54.52OluapPlayerAh
13:54.59OluapPlayerI may have done that
13:55.03OluapPlayerIf I did then I'll revert it
13:56.08MonetRight.
13:57.02Wormy_semi_hereI think I like it because I woke up to it
13:57.18ImperiosHm
13:57.55ImperiosGimme a random Fantasyverse civilisation that is relatively old yet but remains important
13:57.57OluapPlayerI should say, don't take what I write on the Relations page as personal
13:58.04OluapPlayerWhat I write is just in-universe stuff
13:58.26ImperiosHuh
13:58.45OluapPlayerMerovar?
13:58.53ImperiosI *did* take your note about the Divinarium on the Collective's page as "dum Imp we should collaborate more" hur
13:58.56ImperiosYeah could work
13:59.12OluapPlayerThat's what it meant hur
13:59.23MonetAnyway. Active personnel are soldiers who are part of the military as a full-time job while reserve personnel are people work normally, but registered to take up arms in the event of a declaration of full-scale war and recieve periodic training ot keep their skills sharp
14:00.12ImperiosWell we have Shirtless Plot now
14:00.31ImperiosMonet: So that's taking conscription etc into account
14:00.34OluapPlayerShirtless Plot isn't being helpful for relations at the moment
14:00.44OluapPlayerGavakar doesn't relaly like Thessina at all hur
14:01.21Imperioshur
14:01.27MonetImperios: I suppose so yeah
14:02.01OluapPlayerSpeaking of which we should get that moving
14:07.24OluapPlayerOh yeah I should add the Theians too
14:07.27OluapPlayerAlmost forgot
14:08.28MonetTheians - We're that reclusive
14:08.58OluapPlayerDracogonarious - so hidden we forgot you existed lel
14:24.10OluapPlayerI feel like I likked the chat hur
14:24.13OluapPlayerKilled even
14:24.54Imperioshur
14:41.53dromI like how the table doesn't sort between AD and BC
14:47.00ImperiosMonet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH2JGRkopyA It's nothing new but it still looks cool
14:49.29MonetOh dear...Yeah it does
14:56.25AdmiralPandatrying to think of what the symbol for the Fordan Empire would be, since they don't really do the whole flag thing at a racial level
14:57.57AdmiralPandaI think I described the Ce'So'Va bloodline's rune once, but don't know about the empire itself
15:04.43ImperiosHm
15:05.21ImperiosThat's just a though, but perhaps they could have a set of common symbols and colours that all or at least most Fordan clans would incorporate into their heraldics?
15:05.37ImperiosAnd these symbols could be used fro the Empire as a whole
15:06.09MonetPerhaps the empire's symbol is the glyph for For'Dan'Ta?
15:06.11ImperiosLike the Slavs: you'll notice that most Slavic coutnries use white, blue and red in their flags
15:06.14ImperiosYes that too
15:07.31ImperiosAfrican countries use black, red and green
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15:19.09Technobliterator38 revisions
15:19.10Technobliteratorjesus
15:19.14Technobliteratorhi peoples
15:19.33AdmiralPandathat's sorta what I was thinking, like the Ce'So'Va rune is the symbols for the three concepts tweaked a bit and put over the top of each other
15:20.05OluapPlayerdumba
15:20.59Technobliteratorya dad
15:21.16Technobliteratoroluap, do you want to add Da Rogue Boyz to the page or shall I?
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15:23.05OluapPlayerWhat page?
15:23.06ImperiosAdmiral: Put over the top of each other... so like hangul?
15:23.27ImperiosOkay, hangul does it with letters but still
15:24.09Technobliteratorthe Civilizations and Statistics page
15:24.24OluapPlayerOh
15:24.27OluapPlayerYou can do that
15:24.27Technobliteratornot sure why the page has "and" capitalised
15:24.30Technobliteratoralright
15:24.58MonetAwayThat's what I do sometimes
15:25.05TechnobliteratorI don't see why
15:25.08ImperiosHangul (Korean writing) is composed of small letters being incorporated into a single large symbol comparable to a Chinese logogram
15:25.25MonetAwayJust a mannerism I picked up
15:25.59TechnobliteratorI would support moving it to de-capitalise the "And"
15:26.04Technobliteratorunless it is a problem for anyone
15:26.10AdmiralPandaImperios: Hel' is three vertical slashes, Bre' is a horizontal slash with a point above it, and K is four points, the Hel'Bre'K rune is three vertical slashes with a horizontal slash through the middle, one point above and four below
15:26.31AdmiralPandaconveniently, that symbol is incredibly easy to carve into a captured enemy's flesh with one hand
15:26.38ImperiosYa, like hangul
15:27.01AdmiralPandaif Hel' ever gets into a fiction I should have him do it some time
15:27.04MonetAwayHel - *scratch, scratch, poke poke poke poke* my name is written all over you.
15:27.14AdmiralPandaprecisely
15:27.17Technobliteratorwe need a flag template
15:27.27ImperiosTechnobliterator: As in?
15:27.53ImperiosAdmiralPanda: I imagine Hel doing that with a kukri for some reason
15:27.53Technobliteratora template that lets you link to an empire and automatically include their flag, while automatically sizing everything
15:28.02ImperiosI approve
15:28.05AdmiralPandaImperios: actually he does it with his hand
15:28.23ImperiosHur you put these claws to use
15:28.40AdmiralPandaOld Fordan is like the skyrim dragon language, it was designed to be written by hunters clawing into the rock
15:28.40Technobliteratorwhat year did USO form again?
15:28.58AdmiralPandaor more accurately it was created by hunters making markings in rock
15:29.44ImperiosSo, like runes or cuneiform?
15:30.03OluapPlayerUSO formed at
15:30.07OluapPlayerLemme check
15:30.24AdmiralPandarunic essentially
15:30.26OluapPlayer2795
15:30.37Technobliteratorah, thanks
15:30.38ImperiosThat makes me wonder
15:31.39ImperiosBefore the development of print, the shape of symbols was largely determined by the materials used
15:31.57Technobliteratorwhat do you want the template called, "ficempire", "fictionemp" or "ficemp"?
15:32.07Imperiosfemp :P
15:32.15Technobliteratorrofl
15:32.32ImperiosI wonder what kind of stuff the Radeons wrote their texts on
15:33.12ImperiosHm
15:33.49Technobliteratorand the other thing is, do you want it to work like Msg, with "{{ficemp/name}}", or do you want it to be a parameter, like "{{ficemp|name}}"
15:34.36Technobliteratorthe latter is slightly more expensive speed wise but is much easier, the former requires creating fucktons of new pages instead of keeping it on one page but might not be as expensive
15:35.07ImperiosThe latter
15:36.00Technobliteratorwell sure, but again, it might be expensive, not too noticeably but it might be
15:37.02TechnobliteratorIndustry
15:37.02Technobliterator(% pri./sec./tert.)
15:37.02Technobliteratorwhat is that?
15:37.15GhelWould the latter require some standardisation, e.g. all fictions needing to have their emblem at "File:{{{name}}} flag.png", for it to work?
15:37.47TechnobliteratorIt shouldn't do, I don't think
15:37.53Technobliteratorit'll just use {{#switch
15:38.32Technobliterator...however, if there *was* standardisation, then it wouldn't be expensive at all
15:38.41Technobliteratorso that's a third option
15:38.54Technobliteratorbut I will need to develop my pybot before I do something like that
15:40.43GhelOn an unrelated topic, there are a few deletion-related topics that have arisen as a result of the UnusedFiles clearout.
15:41.08MonetAwayTechnobliterator: "Industry" refers to where the empire's population is employed. Primary industry si resource gathering such as farming, logging, fishing and mining. Secondary industry is resource processing and manufacturing. Tertiary industry is services such as banking, shops, entertainment etc.  "services" also includes research and development
15:41.16Technobliteratorahh, I see
15:41.37TechnobliteratorWell, that might apply a bit to Da Rogue Boyz, but I doubt it applies to USO at all
15:42.05GhelFirst of all, should we keep or delete the old abandoned Sagan 4-inspired projects such as http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Icarus and http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Fermi_5/Week_1 ?
15:42.38Technobliteratorwith that many red links? :o
15:42.41TechnobliteratorI would say delete
15:42.51GhelRight, will do.
15:43.02GhelSecondly, a lot of old users are going to have (or already have) their userpage as their only contribution to the wiki. I don't intend to delete these (at least not yet), but it's something to be aware of.
15:43.25Technobliteratorlol
15:43.31Technobliteratorit's not uncommon
15:43.45Technobliteratorso I don't think anyone minds :p
15:44.34GhelSecondly, I've noticed a few inactive users who have quite a lot of unused files. One of these is ViceMan, who apparently quit the wiki after his hard drive broke in 2011, then there's Evanphoto, who's last edit was blanking his userpage last year, and there's also Val.
15:45.21MonetAwayTechnobliterator: I suppose "organised crime" and "theft" comes under tertiary industry
15:45.40GhelI don't think any of them are coming back, so they might all get deleted soon if there are no objections.
15:45.42TechnobliteratorVal?
15:45.48Technobliteratoras in The Valader?
15:45.54MonetAwayBut yeah I'm wondering how to show stuff lik this in a largely-autometed society
15:45.55GhelYes.
15:46.07Technobliteratoroh his stuff can be kept
15:46.12GhelAll right; I'll keep them.
15:46.15Technobliteratorsince it's important to the fiction universe
15:46.19Technobliteratorbut do you mean redlinks?
15:46.26TechnobliteratorI tend to put <nowiki>s around ones like those
15:46.40Technobliteratorso [[link to nothing]] appears, and doesn't clog the wantedpages
15:47.06Technobliteratorbut does remind people, and the original author, that there was supposed to be something there
15:47.41MonetAwayActually I suppose slaves and mind controlled citizens can register on the Industry tab
15:47.48SoshanimVal's not dead
15:48.51Technobliteratorhe's not? :o
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15:51.56Technobliteratoranyway I added USO
15:55.43SoshanimHe is not
15:56.14SoshanimActually, he is very surprised of being mentioned right now, after all this time
15:56.42dromTech, you added a table column entry too much in the economy.
15:57.05Technobliteratorval is that you
15:57.06Technobliterator:o
15:57.40Technobliteratordrom, fixed
15:58.06dromGood good, let the perfection flow through your veins!
15:58.17Technobliteratormwahaha
15:59.21SoshanimIt is me
15:59.38Technobliterator:OOO
16:00.48ImperiosHeh
16:00.52Imperioshugs Soshanim
16:00.53SoshanimHow have you been Techno? It's been a while x_x
16:01.00ImperiosHi Val, it's been a while
16:01.09OluapPlayerhello
16:01.12Technobliteratorit sure has :'( is that really you :oo
16:01.12MonetAwayHey Val!
16:01.14SoshanimAnd hello Imperios!
16:01.48SoshanimWell... I'm still owing you some pizza Techno, it has to be me
16:02.08Technobliterator:DD
16:02.09SoshanimOluap! Heelloo
16:02.11Technobliteratorhugs Soshanim
16:02.15dromHey there.
16:02.17SoshanimImperios! :D
16:02.24SoshanimMonet!
16:02.47Technobliteratoromg, how's things been? busy irl still busy, I imagine?
16:03.02SoshanimSo good to see you guys!
16:03.29SoshanimYes indeed!
16:03.57SoshanimBut it is good to see you guys are still here, makes me happy!
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16:04.22HachimanHey
16:04.27Technobliteratoryo
16:04.27dromHey
16:04.29OluapPlayeromg hai
16:04.29Val_Hello
16:04.45HachimanVal
16:04.46HachimanIs that
16:04.48HachimanReally you
16:05.07Technobliteratorval, significa no estas muerte?
16:05.11OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: Have you seen the new JonTron?
16:05.26TechnobliteratorI've seen that it's uploaded, yeah, but I've not had a chance to look
16:05.30Technobliteratorwill look now
16:05.44HachimanThere's new JonTron already?
16:05.58Val_Nop, not dead Techno
16:05.59OluapPlayerI mean the California Games ones
16:05.59OluapPlayer*one
16:06.03OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx9srMlojDg
16:06.08HachimanOh right hur
16:06.15Technobliteratoryay I got my spanish right!
16:06.28Technobliteratorcalifornia games
16:06.41Val_Lol
16:06.55Val_It is me Hachi
16:07.18HachimanDamn, thought you'd moved on
16:07.18HachimanOr died
16:07.21HachimanOr something lol
16:07.39Technobliterator"cheesecake pizza"
16:07.43Technobliteratorohgod
16:08.05MonetAwayI declare Uno the most murder-friendly nation in the knwo ngigaquadrant.
16:08.10MonetAwayUSO*
16:08.29Technobliteratoryup
16:08.43Technobliteratorwell, their population produce fairly rapidly anyway
16:08.54MonetAwayI am a bit worried now because that value means over half the population die every year
16:09.09Technobliteratorit's true, it's their "euthanasia"
16:09.48Val_Nop
16:10.18Val_I get nostalgic
16:10.49Technobliteratorcual es tu lesiones musicas?
16:10.52Technobliteratoryou still do those, right?
16:11.36Val_Yep
16:11.47Val_I still do music if that's what you asked lol
16:12.05Technobliteratorhow's that going?
16:12.05Val_lesiones means injuries
16:12.09Technobliterator...fuck
16:12.17Technobliteratorit was supposed to be lessons :s
16:12.24HachimanLessons are pain tho
16:12.25Val_it's lecciones
16:12.38MonetAway"do you still have music injuries" lol
16:12.59Val_actually, she asked "Which one is your music injury" if I translate literally
16:13.04OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr2GdRBDOmU
16:13.26MonetAwayVal_: Cheers, my Spanish is a bit...well crap
16:14.17Val_But it is going well Technobliterator
16:14.22Technobliterator:D
16:14.41Val_I got the opportunity to sing in front of 3,000 people last year
16:14.58Val_Thank you
16:15.07MonetAwaySweet, how did that go?
16:17.00Val_It was really cool to have people jumping all the way around
16:18.04Technobliteratorwow
16:18.05Technobliteratornice
16:19.11Val_I see that someone made a French republic or something in the wiki :O
16:19.28ImperiosOh hi Hachi
16:19.30Imperioswaves
16:19.39ImperiosVal_: It's Angrybirds
16:19.49ImperiosThat totally has nothing to do with him being French :3
16:20.35Val_Still... French republic?
16:21.11ImperiosAsk Angrybirds hur
16:21.35Val_Wow... looks really elaborated!
16:22.20ImperiosOH, by the way
16:22.29ImperiosVal_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlY11a5ZhOM Can you tell me what this song is about in a few words?
16:22.33Technobliteratorsome also made the Ultimate Sovereignty of Ottzello :p
16:22.59Val_I need to do tons of reading then!
16:23.04Technobliterator:D
16:23.20ImperiosAye
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16:23.23Sporeraptorhi
16:23.36ImperiosAs for me, Val_, I am mostly working on fantasy stuff nowadays
16:23.47Technobliteratorwas wroking on a fiction, but work has paused. I am working on a python bot with morgoth to make rp coding easier so it will resume soon
16:24.04ImperiosThough I *did* shatter a galaxy in the Fictionverse
16:24.46Val_I suppose Admin duty called lol
16:24.53Val_very nice Techno (:
16:25.22Val_Is the fantasy part still active?
16:25.33Technobliteratorit's more active than before
16:25.35ImperiosVery much so
16:25.36ImperiosYa
16:25.46Technobliteratorthis is probably the most active it has been
16:27.20Val_Another war?
16:27.32Val_Or the same war that started everything?
16:29.34Technobliteratornah, just lots of stuff that led to interest in it
16:31.26Val_I see
16:31.42Val_So what's the current status of the fictionverse?
16:34.58Imperiosactive
16:35.01MonetAwayDepending on where you go, its on the brink of wat again
16:35.21dromEmpire-wide Collectivist anarchism in the market, what can go wrong?
16:36.27OluapPlayerEverywhere is on the brink of war except Borealis which's at the brink of peace
16:36.37Technobliteratorone part of Borealis is not, though
16:36.46Technobliteratorthat part being the Ottzello Sector
16:36.48OluapPlayerOne part no one cares for hur
16:36.57Val_Against... the Dominion?
16:37.10MonetAwayAmongst each other
16:37.12OluapPlayerIf you mean the Xhodocto, they're gone
16:38.04Val_Ok
16:38.54Val_So it's going to be an "Anarchy war" of some sor?
16:38.56Val_sort*
16:39.11MonetAwayWe're looking at something like World War I
16:39.25Technobliteratorit's USO vs a bunch of various anarchist empires
16:39.38TechnobliteratorUSO being the bad guys and anarchy being, surprisingly, the good guys
16:39.38OluapPlayerThere are multiple conflicts happening at once
16:40.37Val_I see
16:41.32ImperiosThe Fantasyverse on the other hand is composed mostly of character-driven stories
16:42.45Technobliteratorstill planning to introduce my character
16:42.50Technobliteratorbut still have no spore
16:45.00Val_Imperios can you give me a link to the fantasyverse?
16:45.09Imperiosrite
16:46.55Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe
16:47.09OluapPlayerThat page is in need of some dire rework
16:47.12dromNC - I got anarchist economy. Fite me.
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16:51.59infobotACTION slaps Cyrannian, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
16:52.06Cyrannian~explode OluapPlayer
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16:52.07Sporeraptorhi
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16:52.35Wormyhi
16:52.40WormyVal_, is that you?
16:52.42CyrannianVal_: Hello Valader (?) Long time no see!
16:52.54Sporeraptorhi
16:52.55WormyThis isn't a horrible joke is it
16:53.08Val_No it is not
16:53.09WormyPeople pretend to be Valader all the time
16:53.27WormyOnly Val can be Val!
16:53.51WormyThere can only be one sure way of knowing
16:54.34AdmiralPandacut him in half and count the rings?
16:54.37WormyWas the novel you was involved with a graphic one?
16:54.47CyrannianI really like this Civilisations and Statistics thing. Are the nations in alphabetical order?
16:55.02Technobliteratorthey should be
16:55.10Technobliteratorbut I think we should add them all first
16:55.20Technobliteratoris also considering a template
16:55.23Technobliteratorhold on let me blog it
16:55.55WormyNice to see you back Val
16:55.58Val_Yes, Changed the title to "Clouds of fire" and it was printed and successfully published at my university.
16:56.05ImperiosHi
16:56.43ImperiosWait, what are you talking about?
16:56.57Val_Also, does the Xeelee Sequence tells you anything Wormy?
16:57.31MonetAwayCyrannian: No formal order but the statistics can be sorted into highest-to-lowest
16:57.43WormyNot sure what you mean, but I do love the novels
16:57.43CyrannianIt's great to see you again, Val. It's Um2k9 by the way, in case I changed my username after we last spoke.
16:57.52Val_Photino birds > Xeelee. Through accelerated process of the universe' stars.
16:57.57WormyOf course
16:58.07WormyAnd Monads > everyone-else
16:58.13Val_No problem Um, last time we spoke you had already changed your name
16:58.36Val_That's right, still striving to see more under the Monad lines though
16:58.39ImperiosVal_: >Yes, Changed the title to "Clouds of fire" and it was printed and successfully published at my university.< What are you talking about?
16:58.50dromTechnobliterator Cyrannian, you can sort them by using those tiny arrows next to the headers.
16:59.00Technobliteratoryes
16:59.07TechnobliteratorI know that they are sortable
16:59.14Technobliteratorbut that does not mean they shouldn't be listed differently
17:00.15GhelHello.
17:00.51GhelLooks like I just missed the revelation of Val's still-alive-ness. :P
17:00.52WormyVal_  I keep noticing references to Timelike Infinity in some form actually existing.  At the enbd of Vacuum Diagrams, the quantum human Paul and the Qax were almongst the last baryonic life, is it hinting one becomes Timelike Infinity?
17:00.52CyrannianPerhaps as a default, they could be sorted alphabetically like they do with similar lists on wikipedia.
17:00.53Technobliteratorok, blog posted
17:01.03dromWe need to find a trick to put the B.C as the oldest date.
17:01.14Technobliteratoryes, sortable tables need to have alphabetical order
17:01.41dromMy first guess is that putting an invisible letter or 0 infront of the values.
17:01.50ImperiosGhel: Take your revenge by killing Val
17:02.01dromA letter which is sorted over 0.
17:02.04WormyVal_  http://www.e-reading.ws/chapter.php/148154/52/Baxter_-_Vacuum_Diagrams.html
17:02.06ImperiosNvm bad joke
17:02.09Ghelkills Imperios instead
17:02.16Imperiosded
17:02.20CyrannianCraptastic, I forgot about the featured fictions.
17:02.25dromThat's for the bad joke dat
17:02.26Technobliteratoranyways, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Technobliterator/Fiction_empire_template
17:02.31Technobliteratorand now bbl training
17:03.05CyrannianAssuming you people actually nominate stuff, I could start it now. However, it might have a shorter run than usual.
17:03.19WormyAnd he is gone
17:03.33ImperiosYou *did* kill him hur
17:04.02MonetAwayI remember nominating a fiction when you asked the other day
17:04.13GhelAnd you're still alive! Clearly, I missed you and hit him instead.
17:05.41CyrannianAlso, this might be a good time to use the forums to discuss a common Gigaquadrant year system or at least furthering attempts to reconcile the different calendars.
17:09.28MonetAwayWell some progress has been made by Tek
17:09.42MonetAwayHe's managed to get a clock app working
17:11.16CyrannianWith regard to Gigaquadrant-wide events, perhaps we could use the formation of the Seven Starr Alliance as the event that this calendar revolves around.
17:15.30ImperiosAye
17:15.34ImperiosI agree
17:20.02dromWe also need formulas for a "year" of chosen calendar.
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17:40.34CyrannianHi
17:41.47OluapPlayerew get away
17:42.45Cyranniansprays Oluap with anti-Oluapspray.
17:43.09OluapPlayerhisses and scuttles away from view
17:47.39MonetAwayhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Civilisations_And_Statistics okay pointer section filled
17:48.15dromYey
18:05.27OluapPlayerAwful lack of Xho
18:05.47ImperiosMonetAway: Hm... who do you think could be bros with rats outside of the AGC?
18:05.53ImperiosEconomically I mean
18:07.20MonetAwayHmm. Don't quite know on that
18:08.28MonetAwayAlso I think I should point out: I don't think murder rate normally includes state-permitted executions.
18:12.35MonetAwayTexas only has a homicide rate of 4.4 per 100,000 people (I'll change 1000 to 100,000 if no one is editing Domestic)
18:16.03Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Civilisations_And_Statistics added muh rats
18:19.01MonetAwayCool.
18:20.27Cyrannianngh, I hope I don't get an edit conflict
18:21.39OluapPlayerLeave your text copied just in case
18:23.02MonetAwayI thin kthis page is quite a success.
18:23.18ImperiosAye it was a great idea
18:23.40CyrannianIndeed
18:23.51ImperiosWormy: Hm, do you think there could be Islander humans living in the Empire?
18:23.57ImperiosI am not sure if I asked you that before
18:26.40CyrannianAdded domestic and economy for the Empire, Republic and the IHR. I'll probably add more of my civilisations whenever I get the chance.
18:29.11ImperiosWait
18:29.17ImperiosThe Empire and the Republic are top trade partners?
18:30.15CyrannianIndeed.
18:31.08CyrannianThe Republica Trade Route links both civilisations together and is one of the busiest in Cyrannus.
18:31.44OluapPlayerHuh
18:31.47ImperiosImperial citizen - FUCKING REBEL SCUM GRBRBRBRLLL- can I buy that hat? (◕~◕✿)
18:31.52OluapPlayerThat's surprising
18:32.01MonetAwayWell the two tolerate each other.
18:32.18ImperiosSo it's a nation-wide love-hate relationship of a kind?
18:32.26Imperios*sort
18:32.43ImperiosTheir political views are radically different but they share the same culture
18:32.43MonetAwayThey may not be keen on the other but at least they're being civilised enough to exchange goods with each other
18:33.03CyrannianPretty much. The size and proximately of each makes trade lucrative for both.
18:33.35CyrannianThough in the Empire's case, foreign trade isn't very important.
18:35.20MonetAwayImperios: You've indicated in the Divinarium's "closest allies" section that its closest allies with itself
18:35.26WormyImperios:  Howabout descendants of the islands before thet became the secretive states
18:35.33MonetAwaysorry, military pertnership
18:35.51ImperiosI fixed that
18:35.59ImperiosWormy: Yeah perhaps
18:36.04OluapPlayerNarcissism
18:36.26ImperiosRadeon - we love ourselves so much (◕~◕)
18:37.02Wormythose eyes
18:37.10Imperiosfixed
18:39.29MonetAwayLooking at the table one of the gaps I'd love ot fill in is in regards to wages. The alternative is I remove mention of it
18:39.34WormyI shall now sink back into obscurity
18:40.12MonetAwayAlthough tbf most of the states we have are either socialist or post-scarcity so payment isn't as much of an issue.
18:41.31MonetAwayIt just seems a little wierd because the stats suggest that everyone listed aside form the Imperium works for free. Or perhaps we use soem other alternative t ofill in the gaps
18:42.36OluapPlayerThey're paid in cookies
18:43.20Imperioscookies
18:44.00ImperiosOluapPlayer: All Gigaquadrant governments are in fact ran by grandmas
18:44.13OluapPlayerof course
18:44.15Wormy_awayStephen Hawking hasn't read my fiction :( http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/stephen-hawking-artificial-intelligence-could-be-a-real-danger/
18:44.28Wormy_away"Imaginary time is like another direction in space," he said. "It's the one bit of my work science fiction writers haven't used."
18:44.39OluapPlayerImperios MonetAway: btw could we work on Shirtless stuff?
18:44.47ImperiosHmmm
18:44.49MonetSure
18:44.56ImperiosNot sure
18:44.59Wormy_awayActually Stephen Baxter used Hawking's Imahinary Time in one story and even referred to him
18:45.03OluapPlayery not sure
18:45.06ImperiosI am working on the Empire today
18:45.13OluapPlayerfuk ur empire
18:47.57ImperiosHm actually I can multitask
18:48.32MonetApparently Capcom is being put up for sale
18:48.50OluapPlayerI heard about that
18:49.25MonetWhat's funny is none of its shareholders are stopping it or blocking it
18:50.11OluapPlayerWhoever buys it better start making it do more localized Monster Hunter games hur
18:51.09OluapPlayerhttp://38.media.tumblr.com/6003a87f5303d15fc36e0cd24eccadc1/tumblr_n67cxnRf1s1qewacoo1_500.jpg
18:52.22OluapPlayerhttps://31.media.tumblr.com/803a3beba77ddaa8ab532c730fbed2b8/tumblr_mxepxoci691s8gq0go1_250.png sunufa
18:54.51Wormy_awayFucking nanny state http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-27888584
18:55.37MonetImperios: If you can multitask that's fine
18:55.44Imperiosrite
18:55.47Wormy_awaydogooders must spoil everything
18:56.02Wormy_awaydogooders are a disgisting vile people
18:56.36ImperiosSo essentially they seek to do everything for the people as opposed to letting them do it themselve
18:56.37Imperioss
18:56.44Wormy_awayyes
18:56.47ImperiosThat's... not nice
18:56.51Imperioswait
18:56.53Imperios"gobstoppers"
18:56.59ImperiosWhat does that mean?
18:57.31CyrannianHow would you describe the Empire's international policy?
18:57.39MonetIts this sweet ball so large it takes up most of your mouth
18:58.04Wormy_awayThey are narcisstic busybodies, PC brigade, social justice warriors
18:58.15MonetThe name comes form the fact its so big that once you put it in you can't really do anything until you've broke nit down a bit
18:58.16Wormy_awaysocial workers
18:58.39Imperios"Gop-stop" means "gang bang" in Russian (as in, the stuff chavs do to you once they catch you)
18:58.41ImperiosSo it's funny hur
18:58.47ImperiosCyrannian: Assholes hur
18:58.54Cyrannianlel
18:59.02ImperiosSeriously though... imperialistic isolationism?
18:59.26Wormy_awayThe dogooders think we should all live regulated lives in a big brother-like nanny state of no fun
18:59.39Wormy_awaythey do it to get a power trip
19:00.11MonetCyrannian: I'd say they're "nation-first", since they don't seem to be interested in anything that doesn't give the Empire some form of advantage.
19:00.12CyrannianI see them as being very imperialistic, generally disagreeable but by no means a rogue state that ignores others.
19:00.37ImperiosWell yeah they aren't USO hur
19:00.40CyrannianMonet: Yes, that describes it well
19:01.34MonetImperialism works.
19:03.24CyrannianI'd imagine they'd ignore diplomatic immunity.
19:04.16Cyrannian*in practice, while respecting it on paper
19:04.27MonetIt would fit with their superiority complex.
19:04.58MonetDiplomatic immunity is more than protection from the law, it also grants the bearer protection from social persecution
19:14.58CyrannianAdded my stuff to the politics section.
19:20.11Wormy_awayLol an irl troll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g9j2SB5I4Q
19:24.39Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10416576_349268995220438_3775726117462952489_n.jpg
19:26.31OluapPlayerolol
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19:27.12TekDroidHello
19:28.46TekDroid~test
19:28.47infoboti heard test is not funny
19:32.52ImperiosHachiman: Hm
19:32.58Imperioshow should we call nonhumans living under the Empire?
19:33.22HachimanLemme have a think
19:33.23Wormy_awayinferiors
19:34.03OluapPlayerNonhumans hur
19:34.10Imperioshur
19:35.09Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpGp7ZMSp0I Venoriel and Thessina
19:37.18HachimanMutuors, which comes from the Latin for "borrowed, mutuor/mutuum
19:40.19CyrannianI'm currently making a scary/Narada-esque Neraida vessel.
19:41.14CyrannianBut with more boxes and less spikes.
19:43.30Wormy_awayyey cubism
19:43.34OluapPlayerMonet: Would you mind if I used your way of organizing sections in stories, as in, putting sections in tabbers?
19:44.09HachimanImperios: Mutuors, which comes from the Latin for "borrowed", mutuor/mutuum
19:44.17MonetOluapPlayer: I don't mind.
19:44.22ImperiosYeah this works
19:44.32OluapPlayerAlrighty
19:44.44ImperiosI do that too hur
19:44.56OluapPlayerMonet was the one who started it hur
19:45.09Imperios'Though "mutuor" is "I borrow", not "borrowed" hur
19:45.17HachimanOh well hur
19:45.19ImperiosHm
19:45.24ImperiosThe Mutuated, perhaps?
19:45.36Imperioshttp://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mutuate It's an actual word hur
19:46.11HachimanI personally think Mutuors rolls off the tongue better
19:47.57Imperios...true
19:48.01Imperiosfuk grammar hur
19:48.26ImperiosI'll just state that's an Imperial Standard word hur
19:49.15HachimanHigh Gothic in Warhammer 40k isn't even proper Latin hur
19:49.28HachimanRule of Cool: The language application
19:50.57Imperiosfun fact: the High Gothic name for the Imperium of Man, Imperium Hominem, actually means "Imperium to Man"
19:55.18CyrannianWorking out the Empire's amount of military personnel is pretty scary.
19:57.05CyrannianGhelae worked out that if it's 1% of the population, there are 60 trillion in reserve.
19:58.11Ghel0.1%.
19:58.23Ghel1% makes 600 trillion.
19:58.28MonetIt has one of the highest populations in the first gigaquadrant
19:59.16Wormy_away1% then, is probably as big as I'd dare to go with the DCP's population
19:59.43Wormy_awayBut then, nearly everyone in the DCP is in reserve
20:01.04dromHere I go!
20:01.37Wormy_awayTo be absolutely frank, I find it hard to believe the population of the GEC is that high.  I remember the Capricorn Sector Alliance as being similarly sized to everyone else
20:02.01Wormy_awayThats only a few decades wikiverse time
20:02.17Wormy_awayOf course, the empire has undergone rapiod expansion but still
20:02.20Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Technobliterator/Fiction_empire_template lack of comments :C
20:02.29OluapPlayerThe Cyrannian Empire is almost as big as a galaxy
20:02.36OluapPlayerThe CSA was tiny in comparison
20:03.10Wormy_awayI know but it seems to far outpopulate every other galaxy
20:03.18dromBye! And one thing more. It was my birthday today.
20:04.06TechnobliteratorI am sure there are plenty of ways to explain it
20:04.14CyrannianI made some retcons since the CSA was dissolved. It was a member of the Cyrannian Federation, which controlled the Core and the Inner Rim, which became the URC, which was substantially larger. The Empire was formed from the URC, the similarly sized CAS, the Basileus Empire and later established sprawling territory in every galaxy except Bunsen.
20:04.46Wormy_awayFair enough
20:04.57Technobliteratorone of the main ways I can think of is that Cyrannian health and living conditions must be better than most empires, their love for massive cities (allowing densely populated areas) and the fact that they're pretty peaceful
20:05.43OluapPlayerThey're far from peaceful hur
20:06.26Wormy_awayI think without the Cyrannian Federation explaining a long history of population expansion, you would have difficulty having such a rapidly expanded power maintaining control over only recently conquered/absorbed systems
20:06.39CyrannianPlus, it has several city-worlds and worlds that can sustain very high populations. I looked up some criticisms of sci-fi ecumenopolies such as Coruscant which have much smaller populations than a planet-wide city should have, so I made amends for the ones I made.
20:06.45MonetCyrannus us hardly as dystopian as Borealis
20:07.14GhelUsing my low estimate for the number of habitable systems in Cyrannus (a very small 8 million), a population og 60 quadrillion would give the CyraEmp an average of 7.5 billion for every system.
20:07.24Ghelof*
20:07.41OluapPlayerBorealis isn't even dystopian anymore hur
20:07.46OluapPlayerAnyway http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Son_of_Gotla tabbers made this page far prettier
20:08.24MonetStill many more people probably died in Borealis in the past two decades than Cyrannus
20:08.38TechnobliteratorOttzello is dystopian for certain
20:08.43OluapPlayerThat's true
20:08.44Technobliteratorthe rest of the galaxy, no
20:08.45Wormy_awayBorealis vs Ottzello, which is more dystopian
20:08.53Technobliteratorwell Ottzello is in Borealis
20:08.58Technobliteratorand smaller
20:08.59Wormy_awayOh Ottzello then
20:09.11MonetI think What Cyrannian means by "peaceful" is that cyrannians are far less likely to commit violent crimes than some other civilisations
20:09.14Technobliteratorbut Ottzello has always been the more consistently bad place to live in the universe
20:09.34CyrannianThat's because Cyrannian's like fighting in top hats several thousand kilometres away from each other. :P
20:09.45OluapPlayerTop hat fencing
20:09.50TechnobliteratorOttzello just like to kill shit
20:09.52Technobliteratorand kill it fast
20:10.20OluapPlayerOttzello is the other sectors' newer hillbilly cousin no one likes talking to
20:11.05Technobliteratoryet coyuld destroy all the others
20:11.09Technobliteratortoplel
20:11.11OluapPlayernon
20:12.33OluapPlayerThe Borealis war certainly had the largest death toll in the galaxy's recent history
20:12.53TechnobliteratorZaarkhun - HAHAHAHAHAH
20:13.09MonetTechnobliterator: Don't forget Ottzello also likes sitting on the porch on sunny days cleaning theri shotgun
20:13.19OluapPlayerZaarkhun killed way less people than Regnatus, the Chosen and the Xi'Arazulha hur
20:13.28Technobliteratorgiven the current state of Borealis, I imagine all the PMCs have gone out of business outside of Ottzello
20:13.47Technobliteratorwell, Zaarkhun himself barely killed anyone, it's the introduction of his ideologies that resulted in everyone's deaths
20:14.05OluapPlayerRegnatus probably had the largest kill count
20:14.35Technobliteratormost definitely
20:14.54MonetTechno: You say that but in most cases killing people to suppress bad things is surprisingly inefficient
20:14.55TechnobliteratorZargoth didn't kill much, considering he qwas the main antagonist, that's kind of ironic
20:15.14OluapPlayerWell Zargoth isn't much about killing people
20:15.24Technobliteratoryeah
20:15.51TechnobliteratorRegnatus was probably the most memorable part of the Borealis War
20:15.51HachimanThat's like saying Hitler didn't kill much
20:16.08Technobliteratorbut Hitler didn't kill anything
20:16.14Technobliteratorhis concentration camps did
20:16.20Technobliteratorand they weren't even his idea
20:16.23Technobliteratorno, I'm not defending Hitler
20:16.35OluapPlayerWell when I said Regnatus, I say deaths he was responsible for
20:16.45OluapPlayerWhich includes everyone killed by a Grox or Alvino during the war
20:16.48Technobliteratoractually that's a lie
20:16.59TechnobliteratorHitler did kill something, he killed himself
20:17.09HachimanAnd Germany's reputation
20:17.19Technobliteratorits reputation wasn't great before
20:17.24HachimanTrue
20:17.31Technobliteratorafter the First World War, everyone already hated them
20:17.32MonetVolkarus - Listening to you all boasting about the death tols you caused is adorable
20:17.43OluapPlayerI noted during the war that, of the whole fleet that attacked the core, only 30% of it lasted enough to face Regnatus
20:17.51HachimanGeezush
20:17.58HachimanAlso I am getting a horrendous headache ;-;
20:18.10OluapPlayercaresses Hachiman's head
20:18.12Technobliteratoronly 30%? wouldn't it be lower than that :o
20:18.22Technobliteratorwere the Vague in that fleet?
20:18.26OluapPlayerThey were
20:18.39OluapPlayerThey lasted that long because they had extragalactics helping
20:18.40Technobliteratoroh, I guess 30% is plausible then hur
20:18.47Wormy_awayHitler still caused the deaths of millions however, from his movement and ideas,
20:18.55OluapPlayerAnd the Vague had as much casualties as everyone else
20:21.07Technobliteratorexcept the Holocaust was not his idea, it was his euthanasia idea that was truly evil
20:21.08Technobliteratorthe other true evil was accepting the Holocaust when it was brought up
20:21.09OluapPlayerCan we not talk about Hitler in public chat pls
20:21.10Technobliteratorsure
20:21.12HachimanjAH
20:21.12HachimanJah*
20:21.19Technobliteratorso urm
20:21.19Technobliteratorborealis war
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20:21.46Technobliteratoryeah I think, Regnatus was the most impactful by a lot
20:21.47OluapPlayerI'd say he was
20:21.48TechnobliteratorZaarkhun wasn't the most impactful death wise but he changed things up a lot
20:21.50OluapPlayerAnd he wasn't even originally in the war
20:21.51TechnobliteratorRegnatus?
20:21.52OluapPlayerHe was something we came up with very later in the war
20:21.52Technobliteratoroh yeah
20:21.52OluapPlayerYeah
20:21.55Technobliteratorwell I came up with the Cold Ones just before the war
20:21.55Technobliteratorhah
20:21.56OluapPlayerI also remember we came up with Arkarixus only a week or so before his introduction
20:21.57Technobliteratoryeah
20:22.10Technobliteratorand I got you to come up with the Kormacvar name by just smashing your head against the keyboard then throwing vowels in :D
20:22.10OluapPlayerBorealis War, more like Improvision War
20:22.13OluapPlayerPretty much
20:22.33Technobliteratorit was great while it lasted though
20:22.39Technobliteratoreven if I screwed up a bit
20:22.45OluapPlayerIt lasted too much hur
20:22.53Technobliteratoryeah I agree
20:23.00Technobliteratorwhich was my fault
20:23.13OluapPlayerStill I'm proud of the results
20:23.14MonetI dub Oluap and Jo the king and queen of making-shit-up-as-they-go-along. lol
20:23.21Technobliteratorme too
20:23.24OluapPlayerThat's pretty much how we made the war
20:23.29Technobliteratoryup
20:23.41OluapPlayerWe just discussed things and added them on the go
20:23.56OluapPlayerWe're at Ice Age Year 7 and I JUST began planning ahead
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20:36.36CyrannianAn Indian restaurant randomly followed me on Twitter just now.
20:36.47OluapPlayerNukes for dinner
20:37.36TechnobliteratorImperios, I'll be honest, I know very little about Lithuania other than it's where my surname comes from
20:37.44Imperiosheh
20:37.45Technobliteratorso you can be as negative as you like, I have very little opinion
20:37.54Imperios>it's where my surname comes from
20:38.05ImperiosSo you're as Lithuanian as I am Chinese hur
20:38.13Technobliteratorchinese? :o
20:38.23ImperiosWell my surname is Korean but the Koreans took that surname from the Chinese
20:38.33Cyrannianhttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140617203809/spore/images/4/44/NeraidaInvasion.png - Mwahahaha
20:38.36ImperiosIt means "godlike" or something
20:38.47ImperiosThe Chinese form sounds different though
20:38.53Imperios<PROTECTED>
20:38.58TechnobliteratorGOOOODLIKE
20:39.00Technobliteratorhooooly shit
20:39.04Technobliteratorhooooly shit TRIPLE KILL
20:39.05Imperios<PROTECTED>
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20:39.13AdmiralPandahi all
20:39.13OluapPlayerpondo
20:39.19Technobliteratorhey panda
20:39.31ImperiosCyrannian: That's a sexy beam
20:39.32OluapPlayerCyrannian: Woah what are those effects?
20:40.11CyrannianI think they came with the latest version of Dark Injection
20:40.15MonetWouldn't want to get caught in the path of those nightmares.
20:40.18TechnobliteratorNeraida - 1v1 me bro
20:40.19CyrannianOh wait
20:40.28CyrannianI'll find a link for y'all
20:40.38Imperiosy'all
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20:40.44Imperiosy u Texan
20:41.54Cyrannianhttp://davoonline.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=2805 - Here's the mod if you want to download it.
20:42.27Technobliteratortfw no Spore
20:42.38Technobliteratortfw my Windows Virtual Machine doesn't work
20:43.07HachimanLinux is convenient until its convenient hur
20:44.21Technobliteratorso it's always convenient? :o
20:45.10Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Alternate_Humans
20:45.31OluapPlayerWell okay
20:45.37OluapPlayerSeems pretty adamant about it
20:45.39Wormy_awaypretty much the story of humanity in a nutshell
20:45.41ImperiosHachiman: best page ever
20:46.06ImperiosHachiman: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131224175816/spore/images/1/1f/Imperial_Dragon.png Remember these guys?
20:46.19ImperiosI wonder what draconic species they could belong
20:46.23Wormy_awayi hope the abducted humans form an atomic-age aesthetic civilisation
20:46.56Wormy_awaylike duck dodgers and the 24th and 1/2 century
20:47.17Wormy_awayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqAUiUDyFlY
20:48.18Imperios*belong to
20:49.15Wormy_awayatompunk needs reviving
20:49.31Wormy_awaywe have many sci-fi styles on the wiki but not atompunk
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20:50.05Wormy_awayi might have station halcyon episode with an atompunk planet
20:50.25Wormy_awaythe halycon crew explore it in ufos
20:51.19Wormy_awayhttp://www.pinterest.com/herereadthis/atompunk/
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20:53.45MD12Just checking in to say I wasn't on hiatus just had orientation for early part of this week
20:53.54OluapPlayerhur
20:54.19MD12Anyway lunch soon so bbl
20:54.23Wormy_awaydecopunk car http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1p9csINUi1qa6vr1o1_500.jpg
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20:56.32Val_Ok... I'm back
20:56.40Wormy_awayHello
20:56.44Val_Hello!
20:56.56GhelHello.
20:57.06Wormy_awayDid you read Timelike Infiity?
20:57.07ImperiosHi
20:57.11Val_Sorry Wormy
20:57.22Val_Needed to get back to work
20:57.30CyrannianHi!
20:57.57Technobliteratorhii
20:58.23Wormy_awayI was saying, the end of Vacuum Diagrams hints at Timelike Infinity when Paul and the Qax are the last baryonic life, which would survive towards it?  http://www.e-reading.ws/chapter.php/148154/52/Baxter_-_Vacuum_Diagrams.html
20:59.08Wormy_awaywhich would be the first would of course achieve control over all the worldlines of every history in the Xeelee universe
20:59.44Wormy_awayBut then, Vacum Diagrams was a simulation by the Planck Zero AI, Eve
21:01.03OluapPlayerAdmiralPanda Hachiman: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/776/843/d5c.jpg Gravel the Rock
21:01.26HachimanHur
21:01.31Val_Hmm
21:01.33AdmiralPandaheh
21:02.35Wormy_awaySo Timelike Infinity > Monads > Photino Birds > Xeelee > Transcendence > Eve > everything else in the power scale
21:02.59OluapPlayerhttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/776/914/b62.gif stupid Darkwraiths
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21:03.38Val_Wow!
21:03.46Val_That totally blew my mind
21:04.52Val_Damn, I will look for my pdf on Timelike infinity
21:05.12Wormy_awayhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelike_Infinity
21:05.29Wormy_awayI think i enjoyed it the most probaby
21:05.30Val_I feel like I need a sci-fi injection of some sort
21:06.09Val_Its the one where the Anti-Xeelee comes out right?
21:06.23Val_Nevermind, it is
21:06.25Val_hahaha
21:06.41Val_just read the wikipedia summary at the end
21:06.57Wormy_awayAnti-Xeelee also appear in this story!  http://www.e-reading.ws/chapter.php/148154/44/Baxter_-_Vacuum_Diagrams.html
21:07.04Wormy_awayin the furst paragraph#
21:07.08Wormy_away*first
21:07.35ImperiosHmmm
21:07.50ImperiosI wonder what kind of... stuff would Imperial dragons breathe
21:07.56OluapPlayerAdmiralPanda_: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/755/167/6e9.gif
21:08.24Imperios...No, making them breathe Zyklon-B is not a good idea
21:09.16AdmiralPanda_Oluap: yep
21:09.35OluapPlayerNot counting all the little marionettes running around with their tiny dark/fire axes
21:10.15Val_I don't remember a lot from Vacuum Diagrams
21:10.33Val_I read it overlooking a lot of details
21:11.06Val_Btw has Baxter released any new novels?
21:12.56Wormy_awayyes
21:13.09Wormy_awayGravity Dreams and some new short series he hasn't collected yet
21:13.29Wormy_awayGravity Dreams is basically Humanity's last stand against the Xeelee
21:14.40Wormy_awayThey fought well, walls of supernovae, and even considered siphoning off the energy of a collapsing universe
21:15.34Wormy_awayConsidering that doesn't stop the Xeelee is a testamount to their power
21:15.57Cyrannianhttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140617211535/spore/images/a/ae/NeraidaInvasion01.png - I've been looking for a way to use this guy again.
21:16.52OluapPlayerOh neat
21:16.54Hachimandat claw
21:17.03OluapPlayerYeah, dat claw
21:17.04OluapPlayerLooks awesome
21:18.08Wormy_awayAwesome, a cyberpunk raptor
21:18.09ImperiosDoctor CLAAAAAAAW
21:18.19ImperiosSpeaking of which
21:18.24Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Man MORE STUFF
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21:19.36OluapPlayerFire Drake - ew hillbilly dragons
21:21.10ImpyDroidI swear this is one of the largest page on the wiki
21:22.40CyrannianIt's one of my favourite Koldenwelt fictions.
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21:23.54Wormy_awayhi
21:23.55Technobliteratoryou can use collapsibles or tabbers if it's too large
21:24.17OluapPlayerIt's fine as it is
21:24.31ImpyDroidCyrannian: Aww shucks thanks
21:24.58Wormy_awayVal_  I'm currently writing a very fierce war with GD12 http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Milky_Way_Campaign#Tyranny_-_DCP_Front
21:25.02TechnobliteratorI like the use of expl, but I do not like "<CENTER>" because that's outdated HTML code, not that it affects you much
21:25.18OluapPlayer2bad
21:25.33ImpyDroidI wonder why you like it
21:26.10Technobliteratorpage content is really long, I have difficulty reading longass pages
21:26.20Technobliteratorbut the content is well written
21:27.29ImpyDroidnyan
21:27.37MonetI might have to update the DI's army size. Theoretically, the vast majority of all Draconis have the skills to be considered reserves
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21:27.49ImpyDroidYou know
21:28.00OluapPlayerspu dma u
21:28.00Xhonothing Jon Snow
21:28.02OluapPlayerdam even
21:28.13OluapPlayerWhere were u all day
21:28.16ImpyDroidI was afraid that when curbing down the Empire's xenophoby I made it bland
21:28.26Technobliterator{{expl}} is not used often enough imo
21:28.27MonetHello
21:28.33ImpyDroidLike, too generic fantasy human dunno
21:28.37ImpyDroidHi Xho
21:28.41XhoAt work then was around a friend's house watching Brazil v Mexico
21:28.45ImpyDroidDid I?
21:28.46Technobliteratormy only complaint is that I hate h1's
21:28.50OluapPlayerYou didn't
21:28.53MonetXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Civilisations_And_Statistics c
21:28.55OluapPlayerThey're far better now
21:29.01Xhoc
21:29.13Technobliteratoralso yes, I agree with Oluap
21:29.15OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2C5SLQ1FEQ i've been meaning to show you this all day
21:29.36Technobliteratorpage is good, just needs shortening, could do with collapsibles to solve that or subpages
21:29.56OluapPlayerThe page being long isn't a problem
21:30.00TechnobliteratorI would not use a h1 for notes because I do not like using h1's when the rest of the page uses h2's
21:30.05OluapPlayerIf anything I wish I could make pages that long
21:30.07Technobliteratorin fact I hate h1's in general
21:30.24ImpyDroidHachi put them hur
21:30.25Technobliteratorit's a problem when you struggle with reading it
21:30.29XhoOluapPlayer: "I GET IT"
21:30.30Technobliteratorwhich I do
21:30.38OluapPlayerolol
21:31.08TechnobliteratorMilitary, Government and the like can be a subpage
21:31.27TechnobliteratorTechnology, possibly
21:31.49TechnobliteratorI would leave Ethnicities as they are
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21:32.07Technobliteratorand I would remove the obnoxious h1 at the end because h1's can buuuuuuuurn
21:32.34Technobliteratorcontent is great, Empire of Man is now awesome
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21:33.09JepardiHi
21:33.42OluapPlayerXho: MARK MY WORDS. THE DAMN NACHOS WILL BE MINE.
21:33.58Xhoheh
21:34.16OluapPlayerThe war which tore Skyrim apart was all because of nachos
21:34.18OluapPlayerLegit dat
21:34.35XhoAludian - NA CHO CHIS
21:34.41XhoAlduin*
21:34.46XhoMan my spelling is great
21:34.47Xho#not
21:34.48HachimanOluapPlayer: Me and my c*** get so lonely out here.
21:34.57OluapPlayerStill
21:35.01OluapPlayerI GET IT was the best part
21:36.29ImpyDroidAll hail the glorious nachos
21:36.41ImpyDroidThe Nacho part was the best
21:37.15HachimanThe "Rubbing My Titties" bit was funniest to me hur
21:38.03OluapPlayerKalcedia's late years
21:38.21ImpyDroidThat makes me wonder
21:38.34ImpyDroidAre there nachos in the fiction/fantasyverse hur
21:38.43HachimanProbabaly
21:38.44XhoSantorakh - yes.
21:41.08XhoBy the looks of it, the Kicathian Remnant seems to be the largest exporter of healthcare
21:41.15XhoLargest exporter of healthcare -> Kicath
21:41.21XhoYour move, Gigaquadrant
21:41.36OluapPlayerhu
21:41.45OluapPlayerr
21:41.45ImpyDroidPatient - What do I have to take, doctor?
21:41.52OluapPlayerNu - MeeM
21:41.56XhoWell put
21:42.08ImpyDroidKicath Doctor - (S)LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE
21:42.28Wormy_awayquoye of the day
21:42.31OluapPlayerKicath MeeM
21:42.33Wormy_awayquote
21:42.33OluapPlayerKiiK
21:45.27XhoWho would be the most common contact for the Kicathian Remnant
21:45.31XhoPolar Crystal Alliance I guess
21:46.16OluapPlayerdur
21:46.22OluapPlayerThem and the Indocs
21:47.23XhoMonet: Would you say the Kicath are frequently trading with the Draconis or not
21:48.10ImpyDroidj
21:48.24XhoOr should I just put the entire Commonwealth down
21:53.15XhoVal
21:53.16Xhowat
21:53.19Xhosay wat
21:54.20MonetXho: Yes
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21:54.40MonetI'd say the Kicath trade frequently with the DI
21:55.01XhoSo the Divinarium have a 30-billion strong military
21:55.03MonetDunno about the rest of the brood because Kithworto and Tyraz hate each other
21:55.11XhoKicathian Remnant has a tiddly 329 million
21:57.01XhoKithworto and Tyraz hate each other but I think the Brood and the Remnant do have fairly good political relations and probably think Kithworto and Tyraz are being dum
21:57.40MonetYeah but when your head of state is Zeus who's going to argue with your opinion.
21:57.40Technobliteratorchrist, Ghelae's been busy
21:57.53Monetwith his*
21:57.56HachimanTyraz - grr    Kithworto - rawr    Tyraz - GRR   Kithworto - RAWR     Brood & Remnant - shup
21:57.57TechnobliteratorI've never seen that many deletions since I saw a pybot run a mass deletion spree
21:57.57XhoNu - MEEEEEEEEEEEE
21:58.29OluapPlayerNu - NOW KISS
21:58.42MonetGhel's a hyperintelligent AI though
21:59.45OluapPlayeridunno from what I've seen I think Kithworto hates Tyraz more than Tyraz hates Kithworto
21:59.50XhoWhat kind of internation policy would you say the Kicath have
21:59.55Xhointernational*
22:00.21OluapPlayerDo they accept aliens on their planets?
22:00.24OluapPlayerI actually can't tell hur
22:00.48XhoThey do, but only in tourism
22:00.52XhoResidence is a long-winded process
22:01.06XhoOr worj
22:01.08Xho*work
22:01.27Monetinternational pollicy is more about how open they are to foreign negotiations
22:01.29OluapPlayerKicath - come visit our worlds, we have RAIN
22:01.46XhoOh
22:01.49XhoKicathian negotiators
22:01.53Xholaughs manically
22:02.03XhoPartially open I guess
22:02.14OluapPlayerHow anti-climatic hur
22:02.23MonetKicath - Okay here's my idea for what we could do. And if you don't like it go jump out of the window. See? We're making progress.
22:02.45XhoKicath Level: 100
22:03.55XhoDespite the Kicathian Remnant's general political leniency they don't tend to regard diplomatic immunity much
22:05.18Monetthree-and-a-alf-metre angry sorta-god reptiles don't sound like they'd be up to putting up with shit if you muck up
22:06.10Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Civilisations_And_Statistics Added the Remnant
22:07.59OluapPlayerKitmadzäron
22:08.00OluapPlayermake dis dood
22:08.09Xhocba lel
22:08.11Xhotop kek
22:08.15Xhowatchu gon do bout it fgt
22:08.23OluapPlayerkicks Xho in the twiddle-diddles
22:08.26XhoAnd now, the Dominion
22:08.35XhoI'm gonna have fun with this one
22:08.48OluapPlayerDiplomatic immunity = respected
22:08.48MonetHuh
22:09.05MonetMurder rate's prety low in the Remnant
22:09.24MonetSUddenly I'm not so worried about visiting
22:09.30XhoYeah, murder is far more regulated than the Kicath Empire
22:09.51XhoWhat counts as murder in the Kicath Remnant is similar to how it is in any other society
22:10.05XhoKicath Empire murder is generally anything that doesn't count as an honour killing or killing a criminal
22:10.06OluapPlayerMy cat's hugging one of her legs while sleeping
22:10.08OluapPlayerkawaii as fuck
22:10.26XhoAnd the political corruption about honour killing makes it very easy to get away with murder
22:10.45XhoWant to kill someone? Go on a holiday to the Kicath Empire
22:11.06OluapPlayerNu - ELLO BOYS, I'M BAAAACK
22:11.50XhoRight time for DOMONOON
22:13.08XhoBah what would you call the Dominion's government
22:13.21XhoTheocracy?
22:13.30OluapPlayerSeems like the best option
22:13.36OluapPlayerI can't find any other description
22:13.55OluapPlayerbai
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22:16.52GD12Hi all, i'll be on for a bit since I'm running on 2 hours of sleep
22:17.05GD12anything new happen the past 3 days?
22:17.21Angrybirds_....
22:17.29Angrybirds_A bird just flew into the classroom.
22:17.32Angrybirds_And then flew out.
22:17.34Angrybirds_Just like that.
22:17.42Technobliterator:o
22:19.14XhoDoes any faction actually trade with the Dominion
22:19.16XhoI forget
22:19.46GD12Cyrannian : THe Neraida dreadnought looks awesome
22:19.49Wormy_awayGD12:  The Valader returned
22:19.54GD12Cool
22:19.58GD12Xho : I doubt it hur
22:20.13CyrannianThanks! You'll see a lot of them in the upcoming Neraida invasion of the Milky Way.
22:20.26GD12Thats basically trading with Xho Level OP nOrth Korea with ultraenhanced xenophobia hur
22:20.37GD12Cyrannian : is that story part of gigaquadrantic conflicts/
22:20.42GD12*?
22:20.43CyrannianIndeed.
22:21.20Cyrannianhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140617221941/spore/images/9/9c/CyraHumans.png - Also, I updated my humans. I'm happy with the male, but the female is blah.
22:21.34TechnobliteratorI need to have USO do stuff in that Cyrannus war
22:21.45Technobliteratornamely destroy people because lolfun
22:22.22Jepardihttp://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aG94mB6_460s.jpg
22:22.23GD12Cyrannian : You might have seen this before but on the subject of invasions theres this massive space battle between the DT and the DCP which me and wormy had about a week ago http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Milky_Way_Campaign#Battle_of_the_Deathstorm
22:22.38CyrannianAwesome, I'll check it out.
22:22.57XhoI was trying to think about how much the Dominion's armies would be
22:23.01XhoThen I realised demonic population
22:23.15XhoTheoretically transfinite in that respect
22:24.03MonetCyrannian: THat woman is blowing a raspberry
22:24.28CyrannianTechnobliterator: What is that bot program called? I can't seem to find it on my computer.
22:24.37TechnobliteratorAutoWikiBrowser
22:25.18Technobliteratoryou're lucky you get a software with yours, the one I'm trying to my head around is just a bunch of python scripts that I have to use by writing stuff in a terminal
22:25.31GD12This is new http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Civilisations_And_Statistics#Military
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22:26.51MonetGD12: It became official last night
22:27.00GD12cool
22:27.03MonetAlthough Xho's busy adding his stuff
22:27.04TekDroidWhat did I miss?
22:27.21GD12yeah i may or may not add the DT later since it would be dead by that time
22:27.30XhoAdded the Dominion as well
22:28.01CyrannianTechnobliterator: Okay, it said I wasn't authorised but it then linked me here: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage
22:28.10CyrannianWhich it didn't do before.
22:28.12GD12are we allowed to add dead empires?
22:28.19TekDroidThere was a couple things I wanted to change on that table, though I can't remember what...
22:28.55Technobliteratorfixed
22:28.59Technobliteratorit should work now
22:29.29CyrannianAye, it does
22:29.37GD12would i be allowed to add the DT with it's peak numbers at some point?
22:29.39Technobliterator^.^
22:29.47TekDroidSo it would seem I'm the only one to use the new forums so far. >.>
22:29.57XhoHey I put the Dominion in with over 70,000,000
22:30.00XhoThen again it is shared
22:30.34GD1270,000,000 million?
22:30.44XhoSystem numbers
22:30.47XhoNot population
22:30.49GD12oshi
22:31.12MonetGD12: I don't see why we can't add recently-dead empires
22:31.13XhoPopulation in most general accounts is considered transfinite due to otherworldly connections
22:32.01XhoThough that being said the liberality of the Dominion is actually quite high
22:32.19XhoNo slavery, no fear of persecution unless you're openly defying the Xhodocto
22:32.22XhoThat's never a good thing
22:33.02Angrybirds_I just noticed... Half of the Imperial Cyrannian population is in the military.
22:33.24TekDroidO.o
22:33.40Angrybirds_Unless I missed a zero somewhere in there, isn't that a little excessive? o.O
22:33.49CyrannianWell that can't be right.
22:34.16CyrannianAh, the population part is measured in billions while the amount in the military is measured in millions.
22:34.32XhoYeah I'm not quite sure whether some of the billions measurements are right
22:35.02Angrybirds_Alright, my bad.
22:35.06TekDroidThat makes more sense then.
22:35.52GD12so the empires total army size is close to a hundred trillion
22:36.11GD12i mean
22:36.12GD12for cyraemp
22:36.28CyrannianGhelae worked it out as 0.1% of the population, so it seemed about right.
22:36.30GD12also Monet : According to your page DI should have quadrillions of soldiers
22:36.51GD12you just put down 700 bil
22:37.04Xho8,200,000 billion population
22:37.08Xho8,200,000,000,000,000
22:37.15Monetfuk
22:37.15CyrannianGD12: Wormy_away: Very nice work on the battle, one of the more interesting on the wiki.
22:37.18XhoIsn't that like 8.2 sextillion
22:37.22GD12thanks
22:37.25MonetThat's meant to be 8.2 quadrillion
22:37.33XhoShould be 8,200 then hur
22:38.00Wormy_awayNearly everyone in the DCP is at least in reserve
22:38.10MonetYeah I screwed up the numbers bad
22:38.33Angrybirds_France has reserves... In other countries.
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22:38.41CyrannianAlright, I'm about to start my first bot-a-kajigger, so the wiki may or may not explode.
22:38.47XhoEngland - *shakes fist*
22:38.57Angrybirds_France - *sticks out tongue*
22:39.12XhoEngland - U WOT M8 COM AND HAV A GO IF U FINK UR HARD ENUF
22:39.28XhoOh god, 2800's England
22:39.28Wormy_awayNorthern England - Softy southerners
22:39.29XhoI can't
22:39.34XhoI just can't
22:39.42Angrybirds_France - You're not even a country anymore!
22:39.48Wormy_awayEngland is split in two
22:39.52GD12hur
22:39.59GD12anyway I've got to nap since my brain is imploding
22:40.00GD12cyall later
22:40.04Zillafire101Cya
22:40.24Wormy_awayNot much change really
22:40.45TekDroidcorrect me if I'm wrong, but for the most part on the wiki isn't it basically England and Scotland being seperated?
22:41.15Wormy_awayNorth England, Scotland are part of the Fjord League
22:41.29XhoAnd South England is part of House Lannister
22:41.32XhoWait wrong universe
22:41.58Wormy_awaySouth England and Wales part of ESA or IHR now
22:43.10Angrybirds_Cyrannian : Also, on the IHR page, it says the IHR was founded in 2754. On Monet's statistics, it says that it was founded in 2730.
22:43.54CyrannianI'll change that now, I must have forgotten the actual year of formation.
22:44.16MonetYou do that then I'll make the corrections to my stuff
22:47.22CyrannianMonet: There you go
22:49.41Xhohttp://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=px-KT174NY10236 Anyone got me enough money to buy this
22:54.05TekDroidYikes... that's some loud thunder.
22:54.46TekDroidJust had one of those big rumbles that last a few seconds.
22:55.05Zillafire101Those always make me jump a bit.
22:56.04MonetOkay I think the new values make more sense
22:56.36Wormy_awayI thought you two were reacting in fear to the sound of Xho's guitar he wants
22:57.07TekDroidNah, I didn't click that linkm
22:57.35Zillafire101I did...My classes cracked from it.
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23:01.28Zillafire101Why does sporepidia suck!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!.png
23:01.35Zillafire101Greatest name for a picture. Eva.
23:04.54Wormy_awaySporepidia sucks because it is a knock-off of Sporepedia, clearly
23:07.26Zillafire101Obvisisously.
23:10.00Hachimanhttp://i1.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/600/draft_lens3529242_1365812924_09__.jpg
23:11.33Zillafire101Lol.
23:12.23Zillafire101Ultraman's just stuck in the middle.
23:14.15Zillafire101The sad part is I'm possibly the only one here who knows who all three are.
23:14.59XhoGiant dino, robot and giant turtle
23:15.01XhoSee I got it
23:15.03XhoWait what
23:16.25Zillafire101*Whinny voice* He's not a robot. He's an alien.
23:16.41Zillafire101Hur.
23:17.26CyrannianBye!
23:18.03XhoHere was I promising myself to go to bed at 11
23:18.06XhoIt's now 20 past 12
23:18.07MonetI look at that robot and think of the woman from Metropolis
23:20.01Zillafire101http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jbj8lLspac
23:20.08Zillafire101He'll still never be as awesome as this.
23:21.38MonetI prever the Evangelions
23:22.27Hachimanhttp://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/144443/3447809-5478316467-64514.jpg I prefer the Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann myself, seeing as it's about the size of a galaxy
23:22.46HachimanAnd can materialize a drill the size of the observable universe
23:23.35Zillafire101Jet Jaguar is a rainbow robot with a Jake Nicholson face.
23:24.48Zillafire101I wonder what they where smokeing to create some of these monsters.
23:25.25HachimanIf I have to guess
23:25.26HachimanLots
23:25.47Zillafire101Jet up there was actually designed by a school kid.
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23:26.16HachimanFunnily enough, that's how a majority of the Robot Masters in Megaman were made
23:26.17HachimanHai
23:26.30Zillafire101You should see the wierd stuff Korea came up with.
23:26.35TybusenHai
23:26.38HachimanTybusen: We were just dicussing Gamera, Godzilla, Ultraman, Jet Jaguar, Evangelion and TTGL
23:27.01Zillafire101Well, I have to depart now.
23:27.07Zillafire101Martial arts and all dat.
23:27.23TybusenCool beans
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23:28.40AdmiralPandahi
23:30.29MonetI like how poeple see strange things and assume "drugs"
23:31.08AdmiralPandain Australia they usually are
23:33.30MonetSalvidor Dali's work is "made on drugs" material but from what I hear his imagery came from depriving himself of several days of sleep then seeing what he dreampt up when he did hit the hay
23:34.47AdmiralPandafair enough
23:35.03AdmiralPandausually when I do that I get mild melancholy and a severe craving for iced coffee :P
23:36.33MonetDali was a surrealist so it would have been wierd if he didn't have a wierd form of inspiration
23:36.58AdmiralPandavery true
23:38.38HachimanPerhaps I should find a method involving wiener to try and find some surreal inspiration
23:39.34AdmiralPandacall your girlfriend and ask if she's into anything kinky
23:40.08HachimanWell I was actually thinking of using some frog juices but that works
23:40.46AdmiralPandafrog juices
23:40.47AdmiralPandaweiner
23:40.50AdmiralPandahow does correlate?
23:41.19HachimanWell, you know lubricant
23:41.28XhoLet's
23:41.31XhoCall that a night
23:42.01AdmiralPandalet's not
23:42.04AdmiralPandaalso Xho, news for you
23:42.09AdmiralPandaI now like (some) metal
23:42.58AdmiralPandaon a completely unrelated note, I think I have a toad in my freezer
23:43.19MonetShould we ask how it got in there?
23:43.42AdmiralPandayeah, the "humane" way to kill a cane toad is to bag it and put it in your freezer for three days
23:43.48AdmiralPandaI prefer a spear personally
23:44.07HachimanThe actual fuck
23:44.14HachimanAlso can you give me some of its juices
23:44.21AdmiralPandasure why not
23:44.33AdmiralPandaI'm sure it will die happy knowing its juices were used as lubricant
23:44.49HachimanLubricant + moisturizer
23:46.30MonetWorking on a picture and I realise how right my art lecturer was: Th beautiful people are a pain in the arse to draw
23:47.20AdmiralPandaheh
23:48.17MonetI think I've spent the last half hour making tweaks to her face so she doesn't look like she's either a) an old lady, or b) like she's taking testosterone
23:55.30Monethttp://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/WIP-Isabel-461585787 here's her current look
23:56.25AdmiralPandanot bad
23:58.41MonetMy target is 20-something Hispanic.
23:58.58MonetLate 20s preferebly

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