| 00:05.44 | Monet | The "god in a dream" idea was back when I first started. After a couple of years of interaction and understanding of how ultraterrestrials behaved I thought "why take on such a form? he's a scientist not a preacher" |
| 00:07.22 | Monet | Also that story was back in the days when he was fiction, and I had yet to fully update it. |
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| 00:08.03 | OfficerJackal | Hello! |
| 00:08.19 | Tybusen | I actually don't have a ton of mysticism involved with Bunsen |
| 00:08.23 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 00:09.20 | Monet | It seems to be a trend in science fiction where spacefaring people are either atheistic or they worship a god that turns out ot be real. |
| 00:09.40 | Tybusen | Discounting Spode and that ultracivilization that sits in another dimension, my fiction has pretty much no mysticism |
| 00:10.23 | Tybusen | Monet: I find it surprising that few of the Wiki fictions have fictitious gods as opposed to none or real ones |
| 00:11.45 | Tybusen | Did we ever determine whether or not Spode is an actual person or if he's just made up? |
| 00:12.08 | Wormy | My Cephalodian's have something of religious revelation who's existence is an open question |
| 00:12.35 | Cyrannian | I think some consider Spode and the One God to be the same entity. |
| 00:12.55 | Tybusen | I'm trying to think about how to make the Bunsen brand of Spodism more distinct from the other strains of Spodism in the Fictionverse |
| 00:12.59 | Monet | Most of the mention of Spode from my understanding comes from the Isio'Nar - who claim to be Its messengers when in reality ,they govern themselves for the most part |
| 00:13.11 | Wormy | Cosmospawn is hinted to exist, or to exist but not in the same way it might be, or not at all |
| 00:13.32 | Wormy | middle being Cosmospawn = Ayrai'Shikua |
| 00:13.37 | Monet | Isio'Nar use Spode as a device to appear as figures to be followed. |
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| 00:14.06 | Monet | And mask their authority as Spode's will. |
| 00:14.18 | Wormy | goodnight |
| 00:14.21 | TekDroid | Hm... I now have a significant Spodist population in Farengeto following now that I've annexed the Gargator. |
| 00:14.25 | Tybusen | So Spode is primarily a construction of other people and not an entity in his own right |
| 00:14.55 | Monet | Or like Cyrannian said he could be an interpretation of the One God. |
| 00:15.07 | Tybusen | Hmm, that gives me an interesting idea for a plot involving the GSC |
| 00:15.14 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ASpode |
| 00:15.23 | Cyrannian | We could probably do more with that page |
| 00:15.32 | TekDroid | Yeah. |
| 00:16.00 | Tybusen | The last real content edit to the Spode page was three years ago |
| 00:16.34 | TekDroid | I was looking at it while trying to figure out things with the Gargator religion and came away ftom confused than I started, frankly. |
| 00:16.42 | Monet | Tybusen: Ouch |
| 00:17.31 | TekDroid | I learned more about Spodism from the Radeon's religion page. |
| 00:17.45 | Tybusen | I'm tempted to make Bunsen Spodism an expy of Christianity or the Abrahamic religions |
| 00:18.07 | Monet | Perhaps we use a mix of the One God and Isio'Nar masquerade ideas. It seems a little jarring that the only region of the universe the Nars have influence over is Andromeda and the Milky Way |
| 00:18.12 | Cyrannian | I actually might make a few more connections between the One God and Spode. They seem very similar. |
| 00:18.31 | Monet | When you have characters like Ptolemus who are supposed ot be overseers of Isio'nar operations over entire *universes* |
| 00:18.49 | Tybusen | I think we can all agree that Spode is something that everyone can interpret in their own way since he/she isn't a concrete entity. |
| 00:19.06 | Monet | Yeah |
| 00:19.33 | Cyrannian | Indeed |
| 00:19.34 | Tybusen | I think it would be better to leave Spode as an "up to interpretation" entity rather than having a single concrete definition of what he/she is |
| 00:19.57 | Monet | I think Imperios has been using the Nar explaination as to how come so many disparate civilisations in the Spore Galaxy talk about the same diety. |
| 00:21.04 | TekDroid | I think a formal review of Spodism would be a good idea. |
| 00:21.08 | Tybusen | Perhaps the Nars ended up spreading it to a bunch of galaxies but decided to only focus their efforts on a few galaxies in this universe |
| 00:22.16 | Tybusen | Perhaps the actual state of existence of Spode is ambiguous, maybe the Nars appear to have made him up but maybe they took the idea from another species they were manipulating in another universe |
| 00:23.02 | Tybusen | So Spode could actually exist somewhere else or he might actually not at all. |
| 00:23.38 | TekDroid | Or we have base Spodism from the Nars, then all the denominations the same way they happen IRL with Christianity. |
| 00:24.47 | TekDroid | As in the base idea is the same, but different interpretations. |
| 00:25.18 | Cyrannian | Either Imperios or Ghelae stated on the One God page that "It is commonly believed that the worship of Spode was created by the Eola'Nar based on the idea of the One God." |
| 00:26.01 | Cyrannian | Though that can be easily reconciled with whatever we come up with now. |
| 00:26.01 | Tybusen | So maybe Spodist and One Godist denominations are all members of the same religious family |
| 00:26.35 | Tybusen | Like how Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all under the Abrahamic family of religions |
| 00:26.37 | Monet | Yeah, yeah. The Eloa'nar could have spread the idea of Spode across the universe in their grand plan for universal order, and over time alien civilisations gathered their own interpretations. |
| 00:26.40 | TekDroid | Like Catholic and Orthodox, for instance? |
| 00:27.10 | TekDroid | I would suggest getting this down on the page. |
| 00:27.28 | Tybusen | Perhaps the "original" Spodism was the one first introduced by the Nars, and over time the faith mutated and splintered to create the various modern denominations |
| 00:27.29 | Monet | The Nars could have then shifted their attentino to other locations leaving these interpretations to sprout and diversify |
| 00:28.08 | Tybusen | Like how from Judaism you got Christianity and Islam, and from Christianity you got Orthodox and Catholic, and from Catholic you got Protestants |
| 00:28.31 | Cyrannian | Sounds good |
| 00:28.32 | Tybusen | Or how Islam is divided into who knows how many sects |
| 00:28.34 | TekDroid | That works. |
| 00:29.00 | Tybusen | Essentially different interpretations of the same concept, altered to suit the receiving cultures. |
| 00:29.49 | TekDroid | Makes sense. |
| 00:30.13 | Cyrannian | I think it would be cool to Spore-ify the Fiction Universe with regard to its mythology. |
| 00:30.33 | Tybusen | We can all agree that the Nars are the source of Spode, though it's difficult now to nail down exactly what he is because of how many different interpretations there are with varying levels of logical accuracy |
| 00:31.09 | TekDroid | Cyrannian: what do you mean by that? |
| 00:32.39 | TekDroid | And this might be a good topic to use with the newly-enabled forum feature. |
| 00:32.43 | TekDroid | ~test |
| 00:32.43 | infobot | hmm... test is not funny |
| 00:33.11 | Cyrannian | By introducing more aspects of the game into SporeWiki, such as Spode, Steve, the Staff of Light, etc. |
| 00:33.48 | TekDroid | From my knowledge it was very prominent in the early wiki. |
| 00:34.16 | TekDroid | But then it obviously got more unique |
| 00:34.43 | Tybusen | I think the Fictionverse might do well to maybe incorporate some more mystic elements |
| 00:35.11 | Tybusen | Though I'm not sure if we should go back to the days where the Fictionverse was highly intertwined with Spore the game |
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| 00:35.37 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 00:35.44 | Cyrannian | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.21 | Cyrannian | Apart from the Grox, I don't recall the Fictionverse ever being intertwined with the game to any large degree. |
| 00:36.29 | AdmiralPanda | ^ |
| 00:36.30 | Cyrannian | Apart from passing references perhaps. |
| 00:36.31 | TekDroid | We're just having a discussion about SporeWiki religion and Spode in particular |
| 00:36.41 | AdmiralPanda | yeah, I recall a few terms being brought over, but that's about it |
| 00:37.17 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Mou%27Cyran#Chapter_Eight:_Bane_of_the_Republic - By the way, take a peek |
| 00:37.37 | AdmiralPanda | I remember back when we still used GA ranks to describe our captains, and Cyrannian was a scary untouchable reptilian overlord that I hid under a rock whenever he appeared |
| 00:38.06 | Cyrannian | Now I'm very touchable |
| 00:38.55 | TekDroid | Older stuff seems to have a lot more fourth wall. |
| 00:39.12 | Cyrannian | I do occasionally use some of the archetype scrolls when I can apply them to my fiction. |
| 00:40.44 | Cyrannian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:52.27 | TekDroid | Aeo seems to have used the zealot artifacts a lot when making the Gargator |
| 00:54.34 | Cyrannian | Bye1 |
| 00:54.39 | TekDroid | Bye. |
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| 01:31.14 | TekDroid | ~test |
| 01:31.14 | infobot | test is, like, not funny |
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| 02:32.23 | Tek0516 | What do you think of this new colouration for the Farengeto ships? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Farengeto_S-316_Cruiser.png |
| 02:32.43 | TekDroid | Angrybirds Angrydroid |
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| 05:04.53 | TekDroid | ~test |
| 05:04.53 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny |
| 05:08.37 | Angrybirds | TekDroid Tybusen OfficerJackal |
| 05:08.46 | TekDroid | Yeah? |
| 05:08.49 | Angrybirds | I'm trying to find names for France's Air-to-air missiles. |
| 05:09.08 | Angrybirds | I'm toying with the idea of naming one, "L'Ambassade Française." |
| 05:09.17 | Angrybirds | Aka, "The French Embassy." |
| 05:09.23 | TekDroid | Lol |
| 05:13.06 | Tybusen | "L'Get Rek'd" |
| 05:14.54 | Tybusen | "L'D'Russia Avec Amour" |
| 05:15.05 | Angrybirds | lul |
| 05:15.22 | Angrybirds | I'm going with "Modèle 105" |
| 05:17.40 | Tybusen | I've got some POTATO starships that I might want to start introducing to the market |
| 05:17.52 | Angrybirds | Please do. :D |
| 05:18.12 | Angrybirds | I also need those SEAD planes when you have the time :X |
| 05:18.24 | Tybusen | Most of them are from the 2750s, though since POTATO is preparing to roll out their 2810 generation of starships, I might also put on some of POTATO's 2780s ships |
| 05:19.18 | Tybusen | Angrybirds: http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/soon-dog-in-the-back-seat.jpg |
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| 05:20.47 | Tybusen | POTATO typically has six classes of starship in each generation: a carrier, a battlecruiser (ship of the line), a destroyer, a frigate, a corvette, and an escort cruiser (or escort) |
| 05:21.34 | Angrybirds | Got it, though Battlecruiser might be the wrong name for it. |
| 05:21.49 | Angrybirds | A battlecruiser is essentially a battleship without armor. |
| 05:22.02 | Tybusen | POTATO can name it what they damn please you communist |
| 05:22.03 | Angrybirds | It's lighter, faster, and easier to maintain, but has the firepower of a battleship. |
| 05:22.24 | Tybusen | And I just like the name battlecruiser over ship-of-the-line |
| 05:22.27 | Angrybirds | *throws hands up in the air* FINE. |
| 05:22.35 | Angrybirds | Be that way. xD |
| 05:23.10 | Tybusen | I made sure to note that battlecruisers *should* be called ships of the line but POTATO prefers to refer to them with the cooler "battlecruiser" designation |
| 05:23.50 | Angrybirds | France - Erm. |
| 05:23.59 | Angrybirds | France - *sighs out of exasperation* |
| 05:24.15 | Angrybirds | Funny thing is that I have to specify that France's battlecruiser is a true battlecruiser. |
| 05:24.28 | Angrybirds | Rather than just a "big cool spaceship" |
| 05:24.29 | Tybusen | It also comes with the added bonus that if people make treaties regarding restricting ship-of-the-line production, POTATO can just say "oh they're not ships-of-the-line they're battlecruisers you plebian scum" |
| 05:25.03 | Angrybirds | France - *defines what a battleship is in a treaty, it happens to apply to POTATO battlecruisers* |
| 05:26.19 | Tybusen | Like how Russia skirts a bunch of naval treaties by referring to some of their Black Sea missile ships as missile cruisers instead of carriers |
| 05:26.59 | Angrybirds | lul |
| 05:27.05 | Tybusen | And besides, we all know how Americans want their stuff to sound cool rather than having functional naming schemes |
| 05:27.28 | Tybusen | "It's not a laser sword, it's a laser *katana*" |
| 05:28.21 | Tybusen | Of all the American depictions of katanas, I wonder how many of them would actually be considered katanas by the Japanese |
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| 05:29.34 | Tybusen | I may have seen one time when a European longsword got called a katana |
| 05:29.42 | Angrybirds | o.o |
| 05:29.47 | Angrybirds | *sigh* |
| 05:30.08 | Angrybirds | Added a bunch of French missiles: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Arms_Market#Missiles |
| 05:31.54 | Tybusen | So I'm probably going to dump POTATO's 2750s starships on the market and maybe the 2780s corvette and escort |
| 05:32.03 | Tybusen | Maybe even the 2780s frigate |
| 05:32.45 | Angrybirds | Alright. :D Don't forget the Calgary-class |
| 05:32.56 | Tybusen | Calgary-class is the 2750s frigate |
| 05:33.18 | Tybusen | So it will of course be included |
| 05:34.51 | Tybusen | I wonder if the 80s frigate should join the mix or if that's a powerful enough ship to warrant POTATO keeping it off the market until the 2810s frigate rolls out |
| 05:35.38 | Angrybirds | I think that at this point the shininess would have worn off. |
| 05:36.33 | Angrybirds | France is mostly retaining all of the things it developed after the Tyranny War. |
| 05:36.41 | Angrybirds | Everything before is fair game. |
| 05:37.06 | Tybusen | It's a 20-year old ship at this point but it might still be potent enough that POTATO doesn't want to risk it falling into enemy hands |
| 05:37.49 | Tybusen | Not to mention that I have it written down that the 2810s frigate is due to be the fourth ship class to be completed for the 2810s generation |
| 05:38.17 | Angrybirds | If you want to compare, the Céleste-class from 19 years ago is for sale. |
| 05:38.40 | Tybusen | As since the battlecruisers and carriers tend to always be the last ones completed, that means the frigate is going to be the latest of the lower ship classes |
| 05:38.46 | Angrybirds | It's evolved since then, but that version is up on the market, and it's probably got the upgrades up till about 2790. |
| 05:39.48 | Tybusen | And the 2760s-2780s was probably something of a golden age for POTATO aeronautics seeing as I put a lot of the cool, good recent POTATO armaments in that time period |
| 05:40.18 | Tybusen | Screw it, I'll put the 2780s frigate on the market |
| 05:41.22 | Tybusen | So there's two POTATO frigates on the market, the Calgary-class (2750s) and the Seattle-class (2780s) |
| 05:45.32 | Angrybirds | Understood. :D |
| 05:53.45 | Angrybirds | Tekdroid, you still there? |
| 05:57.16 | TekDroid | Yeah. |
| 05:57.34 | TekDroid | Just working on a forum post about an earlier discussion. |
| 05:57.44 | Angrybirds | Got it. |
| 05:58.16 | Angrybirds | For your benefit: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ACassiel-class_frigate Compare the other cassiel classes to yours. |
| 05:58.42 | Angrybirds | The spore creator is really really bad when it comes to vibrant colors. |
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| 05:59.00 | TekDroid | I'm redoing the colours. I uploaded one new one eaelier. |
| 05:59.00 | Angrybirds | I always use extremely diluted versions of the colors I actually want. |
| 05:59.05 | Angrybirds | Got it. |
| 05:59.06 | TekDroid | *earlier |
| 05:59.51 | TekDroid | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Farengeto_S-316_Cruiser.png |
| 05:59.54 | TekDroid | See? |
| 06:01.40 | Angrybirds | Yeah, that looks much better. |
| 06:02.07 | TekDroid | Also posted this. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:186070 Tybusen, if I missed anything from earlier please feel free to add it. |
| 06:02.38 | TekDroid | Also first non-admin to use the forums. :P |
| 06:02.52 | OfficerJackal | HOLY SHIT. |
| 06:02.54 | OfficerJackal | WE HAVE FORUMS NOW? |
| 06:03.33 | Angrybirds | lul |
| 06:03.34 | TekDroid | Yeah, techno added them today. |
| 06:04.10 | Tybusen | TekDroid: Might be helpful to note that Spodism/One Godism mutated as much as it did as the numerous races that ended up adopting it appropriated it to suit their own cultures |
| 06:05.07 | TekDroid | Feel free to add that. I gotta get some rest. |
| 06:05.15 | Angrybirds | Night! |
| 06:05.23 | Tybusen | Night |
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| 07:45.54 | drom | Morning. |
| 07:46.05 | drom | That was hella of a drom-free night. Eh? |
| 07:53.36 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 09:30.24 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 09:30.27 | drom | Hello |
| 09:30.28 | Monet | Hello |
| 09:33.48 | AdmiralPanda | hi Monet |
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| 09:41.33 | drom | http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/288kbl/tsa_struggles/ |
| 09:49.51 | ImpyDroid | Hi Monet |
| 09:53.16 | ImpyDroid | brb reading |
| 09:57.19 | drom | Man, Katia (prequeladventure) is adorable. |
| 10:01.22 | PictureOfImpy | Reading Oscar Wilde to Noise Marine dubstep |
| 10:01.26 | PictureOfImpy | It's strangely fitting |
| 10:12.08 | Monet | Ooh a bit of Wilde |
| 10:15.09 | Monet | BTW Imperios you may be interested in this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:186070 |
| 10:16.41 | Monet | Oh |
| 10:34.03 | Angrybirds | Morning Monet |
| 10:34.18 | Angrybirds | Not sure when everyone came on. |
| 10:34.50 | Angrybirds | But I've added a bunch of missiles to the market: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Arms_Market#Missiles |
| 10:51.14 | Monet | Hmm, I might put some equipment on there at some point |
| 10:52.06 | Monet | Also for firearms I had a thought on what could go as "ammunition" for beam weapons: The power supply used |
| 10:54.14 | Monet | Actually I could have the DI sell a few things, variosu firearms and perhaps the odd non-ITN warship |
| 10:57.56 | drom | NC probably will sell their obsolete weaponry. The generation before the new "grey" gen. |
| 11:00.04 | drom | And alas, probably = very unlikey in my dictionary |
| 11:02.57 | Angrybirds | drom Monet : That'd be really cool. :) |
| 11:04.11 | Monet | Actually it would make a lot of sense: Weapons can already be legally distributed to permit-holders within the Imperium. |
| 11:04.35 | Monet | Although some stuff - like the standard-issue fusion rifle - can only be sold ot military personnel. |
| 11:05.58 | Monet | If I recall, Imperial law states that anything branded "ITN-issue" can only legally be posessed by ITN personnel. |
| 11:09.21 | Monet | Falcon, right |
| 11:10.04 | drom | Found a FP user named Wormy |
| 11:14.27 | Wormy | FP? |
| 11:15.57 | Wormy | This song makes me sad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ26McpKN1o |
| 11:16.01 | drom | Facepunch, a forum. |
| 11:22.28 | Monet | Okay fighters added |
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| 11:30.30 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 11:35.31 | AdmiralPanda | hai oluap |
| 11:37.18 | OluapPlayer | hai |
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| 12:02.04 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Arms_Market#Firearms gunz |
| 12:03.41 | Liquid_Ink | pew pew |
| 12:06.08 | Monet | Actually the ABS-120 might have a longer optimal range than what i've put since the shell can travel for a bit THEN give you a faceful of shrapnel |
| 12:06.24 | Imperios | Helloe everyone |
| 12:06.57 | Monet | Or you could set it to give people shrapenel facefuls as it leaves the barrel |
| 12:36.32 | Imperios | Hm. Can anyone here speak Spanish? |
| 12:39.24 | Monet | I don't know enough to actually converse in it, no |
| 13:52.39 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Monet47/Sandbox#Experimentation okay I've done soem experimenting |
| 13:53.09 | Monet | How does this look to people? Its intention is to give a brief overview of an empire's statistics |
| 14:04.25 | Imperios | I like |
| 14:04.32 | Imperios | Mind you if I make one for the Divinarium? |
| 14:07.47 | Monet | You can add the Divinarium to it if you like |
| 14:08.39 | Monet | I'm done on my sandbox for now so feel free to add yours |
| 14:11.42 | Monet | add the divinarium* |
| 14:30.30 | Wormy | The smell of tripe makes me gag |
| 14:30.48 | Wormy | my grandmother is making it |
| 14:30.56 | Wormy | why |
| 14:30.58 | Wormy | just why |
| 14:32.44 | AdmiralPanda | is it traditional old-style food? |
| 14:33.56 | Wormy | probabky |
| 14:34.09 | Wormy | I'm a vege, I'm not eating it luckily |
| 14:34.09 | AdmiralPanda | that's probably why then |
| 14:34.42 | Wormy | smells like shit |
| 14:35.56 | Wormy | but thats because it is stomach derived |
| 14:36.55 | AdmiralPanda | you'd hate black soup then |
| 14:37.44 | Wormy | is that like black pudding |
| 14:39.38 | AdmiralPanda | dunno, what's black pudding |
| 14:40.02 | Wormy | sausage made of dried blood |
| 14:40.25 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pudding |
| 14:40.45 | AdmiralPanda | similar, it's basically the parts of a sheep you can't sell as individual cuts, boiled up in a pot of blood |
| 14:40.59 | AdmiralPanda | actually pretty tasty, despite the smell |
| 14:41.53 | Monet | How lovely |
| 14:42.54 | AdmiralPanda | at first I thought it would be disgusting but like I said, it's pretty tasty |
| 14:43.01 | AdmiralPanda | especially if you throw in some potatoes and carrots |
| 14:44.21 | Monet | I think one key downside to my table idea is the sections may take longer to complete |
| 14:44.32 | Monet | Not may, sorry. Will. |
| 14:44.58 | Monet | And some of the stuff is what I learned fomr GCSE geography |
| 14:50.38 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda: I assume sheep meat plays a major role in Australian cuisine. Am I right? |
| 14:51.21 | AdmiralPanda | actually black soup is a spartan dish |
| 14:51.27 | AdmiralPanda | we do like our lamb though |
| 14:51.32 | AdmiralPanda | and beef |
| 14:51.34 | AdmiralPanda | and pork |
| 14:51.36 | AdmiralPanda | and anything meat |
| 14:55.26 | Imperios | You're in accord with Russians there hur |
| 14:55.54 | Imperios | I'm not really the specialist at Slavic cuisine |
| 14:56.11 | Imperios | The history of my family means that what I usually eat is actually a mixture of East Asian, Central Asian and Eastern European food |
| 14:56.29 | Imperios | There's one Slavic dish I can't stand though |
| 14:56.31 | Imperios | Salo |
| 14:56.41 | Imperios | It's a national Ukrainian meal |
| 14:56.55 | Imperios | Imagine bacon if you please, except that it's all white and no red |
| 14:56.58 | Imperios | Brrr |
| 14:57.28 | AdmiralPanda | so it's fried fat? |
| 14:57.38 | Imperios | Pretty much |
| 15:00.46 | Wormy | white pudding is like black pudding but its made of fat |
| 15:09.08 | Wormy | I didn't know ketchup was inspired from the Far East http://mentalfloss.com/article/29649/whats-difference-between-ketchup-and-catsup |
| 15:09.21 | Wormy | abd is related to a mushroom stout |
| 15:09.43 | Imperios | Oh yes it was, it has a Chinese origin although the original recipe of it has been twisted to the point there is not similarity between them |
| 15:10.48 | Wormy | like, it had mushrooms |
| 15:11.03 | Wormy | I'm watching the Hairy Bikers |
| 15:18.16 | Monet | He Heery Bi'ers. |
| 15:18.31 | Monet | Not sure how to write that in a Northern accent |
| 15:19.15 | Wormy | ai up mi duck how'do thee |
| 15:20.04 | Wormy | how'do yothe |
| 15:20.11 | Wormy | nout |
| 15:20.17 | Wormy | canneabide |
| 15:20.27 | Wormy | Some words from my area |
| 15:21.23 | Wormy | nought - nowt |
| 15:21.36 | Wormy | Sorry I talk about dialects too much |
| 15:21.46 | Wormy | I'm a bit obsessed |
| 15:21.49 | Monet | I have a gran in Yorkshire so some of these words are familiar to me |
| 15:22.13 | Wormy | http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/DIALECT1.HTM |
| 15:22.52 | Monet | Like grAs = grass |
| 15:23.11 | Wormy | We Derbyshirians have a deep U |
| 15:23.40 | Wormy | So Buxton is BOOKsstun |
| 15:24.15 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buxton |
| 15:24.19 | Wormy | nice town |
| 15:24.37 | Wormy | You can drink the local spring water which comes bubbling up the ground |
| 15:24.42 | Wormy | in town |
| 15:25.20 | Monet | ...and I have a great aunt in Derby. |
| 15:25.32 | Monet | I'm equal parts North and SOuth |
| 15:25.50 | Monet | And yey my default accent is RP |
| 15:25.57 | Wormy | http://www.historyofbuxton.co.uk/about_buxton0.jpg |
| 15:26.14 | Wormy | You can probably tell I'm proud of Derbyshire |
| 15:27.28 | Wormy | I used three dialects in my first line |
| 15:27.39 | Wormy | Ai up duck - Nottinghamshire |
| 15:27.52 | Wormy | How'do yothe - Derbyshire |
| 15:28.05 | Wormy | Thee - though, as said in Yorjshire |
| 15:28.10 | Wormy | *thou |
| 15:30.14 | Wormy | If I am really honest, I'm not Northern Northern |
| 15:30.35 | Wormy | East Midlands and Northeern border |
| 15:31.17 | Wormy | But to southerners I'm a northerner |
| 15:36.27 | Wormy | When pubs outumber churches in your town |
| 15:36.45 | Wormy | you know your up north |
| 15:37.12 | AdmiralPanda | when pubs outnumber churches you know you're in Australia :P |
| 15:38.37 | Imperios | Or Russia :P |
| 15:39.37 | Wormy | It was probably the Northerners who were bungled to Australia |
| 15:40.10 | Wormy | or sa good number of them |
| 15:40.34 | Monet | Wormy: And if you see three drivers in a row using mobile phones, you're down south. |
| 15:41.02 | Wormy | daan saou-eth |
| 15:41.19 | Wormy | bladdey |
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| 16:27.57 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 16:28.28 | Imperios | hichi |
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| 16:30.15 | Imperios | Hi jo |
| 16:31.18 | Technobliterator | hi |
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| 17:06.36 | Wormylon | hi |
| 17:18.16 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/166/9/5/ugly_decisions_by_hodori-d7mj911.jpg Game of Cute |
| 17:18.51 | Hachiman | daww |
| 17:19.08 | Hachiman | It's funny because the Hound is one of my favourite characters |
| 17:21.50 | Wormylon | Oluao would like this, cuz sloths https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_TvhLjlx7c |
| 17:30.34 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Tu hablas espanol, right? |
| 17:30.51 | Technobliterator | si, hablo mucho |
| 17:30.54 | Imperios | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlY11a5ZhOM Can you tell me, in a few words at least, what is this song about? |
| 17:30.59 | Technobliterator | pero no soy fluyente |
| 17:31.03 | Imperios | It sounds so cool and it's so annoying I cannoy understand it hur |
| 17:32.35 | Technobliterator | hmm |
| 17:34.02 | Technobliterator | Well, Lago de Sangre is Lake of... |
| 17:34.09 | Technobliterator | oh, of Blood |
| 17:34.18 | Technobliterator | and it seems to be talking about nightmares? |
| 17:34.31 | Imperios | I managed to translate the name hur |
| 17:34.33 | Imperios | Oh Isee |
| 17:34.44 | Technobliterator | or, perhaps, the failures of his dreams |
| 17:34.54 | Imperios | For some reason I can see it as the Empire's theme |
| 17:35.20 | Technobliterator | sure, but it seems more like a horrorcore song |
| 17:35.23 | Imperios | Triarii seem a bit too dark for the reimagined Empire |
| 17:38.27 | OluapPlayer | Wormylon: I do like that a lot |
| 17:39.16 | Wormylon | We need a race of space sloths |
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| 17:46.16 | Xho | Bah |
| 17:47.10 | OluapPlayer | shup |
| 17:47.12 | Imperios | hab |
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| 17:48.03 | Xho | Warm words from Oluap as always |
| 17:48.40 | OluapPlayer | Shouldn't expect anything else |
| 17:58.22 | Xho | I'm going to redo all of those Kicathian script pics into like proper cyberpunk block script |
| 18:02.50 | Xho | So far looking pretty cool |
| 18:05.32 | OluapPlayer | http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/775/005/23a.gif kitteh |
| 18:06.57 | Xho | mew |
| 18:07.43 | Imperios | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140616180713/spore/images/c/cc/Grand_Monarch_Ermenrich.png humies |
| 18:09.42 | OluapPlayer | armored dood |
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| 18:17.13 | Cyrannian | Hello! |
| 18:18.02 | Imperios | hail |
| 18:18.05 | Imperios | Hi |
| 18:18.24 | OluapPlayer | ~poke Cyrannian |
| 18:18.24 | infobot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cyrannian, pokes Cyrannian repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 18:18.35 | Cyrannian | ~explode OluapPlayer |
| 18:18.35 | infobot | ACTION blows up OluapPlayer with bombs |
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| 18:25.18 | Zmr56 | Hi there |
| 18:25.50 | Zmr56 | Seeing as the Empire of Mann Co is shared fiction I don't suppose I can add my own Empire into the relations? |
| 18:26.45 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:KicathGlyphKicath.png That's what Kicathian looks like now |
| 18:27.12 | Hachiman | I get reminded of Missing.no for some reason |
| 18:28.37 | Zmr56 | That looks great |
| 18:28.39 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:KicathGlyphKicathianRemnant.png You'll love this one then |
| 18:29.06 | Xho | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130804111547/spore/images/archive/6/68/20140616182749%21KicathGlyphKicathianRemnant.png That's the non-blocky comparison |
| 18:30.14 | Xho | You could probably guess that most alien species would dread writing that down |
| 18:30.39 | Xho | Especially when 7 complicated symbols only represents two words |
| 18:31.50 | Imperios | Zmr56: Sure why not. Which one? |
| 18:32.10 | Hachiman | https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10481387_348814621932542_6086126229077935141_n.jpg |
| 18:32.25 | Zmr56 | Kingdom of Jnordia Here's a link http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kingdom_of_Jnordia |
| 18:32.29 | Imperios | Oh, that one |
| 18:32.32 | Zmr56 | Still incomplete but you get the idea |
| 18:32.40 | Imperios | I actually thought I *did* add it to relations list |
| 18:32.48 | Imperios | BTW I wanted to tell you |
| 18:32.57 | Imperios | You might want to move its position on the map |
| 18:33.04 | Zmr56 | Why? |
| 18:33.13 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Tartarion Well, you see... |
| 18:33.38 | Imperios | Perhaps Jnordia could be located northwest of the Empire as opposed to northeast? |
| 18:33.46 | Zmr56 | Sure |
| 18:36.42 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:The_Empire_Founded.png Ermenrich - Empire STRONK |
| 18:37.35 | Hachiman | Ahmalhrich - mai sword was bigga dan u |
| 18:37.37 | Xho | Shiarchon - meh i'll give you a 6/10 |
| 18:39.03 | Imperios | Ermenrich - I am your descendant u dum |
| 18:39.27 | Hachiman | Ahmalhrich - changes nuffin |
| 18:40.54 | Imperios | Ermenrich - u compensatin for somethin |
| 18:41.12 | Hachiman | Ahmalhrich - yeh u |
| 18:51.41 | Xho | Kinmo - OOOOOOOOOOOOOH SNAP |
| 18:54.43 | OfficerJackal | http://i.imgur.com/IOWrImS.png - Holy shit lol. |
| 18:55.18 | Hachiman | ohgod |
| 18:55.34 | Hachiman | If Ahmalhrich had founded an organized empire I reckon it would be different to the Empire by quite a large margin |
| 18:55.59 | Hachiman | Though he never really founded anything directly, and was more of a warrior than a ruler |
| 18:57.05 | Zmr56 | People watch Sonic Porn? ......... |
| 18:57.16 | Xho | My face on that picture is my response to that picture |
| 18:57.43 | Wormylon | If there is Sonic Porn |
| 18:57.45 | Hachiman | Zmr56: I'd be more surprised if people didn't watch Sonic porn |
| 18:57.51 | Hachiman | It's the internet after all |
| 18:57.52 | Wormylon | There must be Mario porn |
| 18:57.57 | OluapPlayer | Are you joking |
| 18:57.58 | OluapPlayer | There's porn of everything |
| 18:58.08 | OluapPlayer | If it exists, there is porn of it |
| 18:58.08 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 18:58.19 | Hachiman | Including Breaking Bad |
| 18:58.40 | Wormylon | Sporn, remember that |
| 19:00.19 | Imperios | Hachiman: His Empire would probably be less of., well, an Empire |
| 19:00.22 | Imperios | *empire |
| 19:00.46 | Imperios | this reminds me |
| 19:00.54 | Imperios | Do you think Clotholaire would be revered in the Empire? |
| 19:01.31 | OluapPlayer | She's revered by witches |
| 19:01.36 | OluapPlayer | So probably not |
| 19:02.16 | Imperios | True, cos MAGIK |
| 19:02.51 | OluapPlayer | I imagine most history books would say that Ahmalhrich killed Clotholaire instead of married her for the sake of not letting the population know about it |
| 19:03.44 | Zmr56 | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140616190245/spore/images/5/5f/KoldenweltTMapCurrent.png Is this any better? |
| 19:04.29 | Hachiman | Either that or I imagine they'd use Ahmalhrich as an example as to why humans conquer and do not need magic |
| 19:04.33 | Imperios | Ya |
| 19:09.31 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbzUTRAUac4 cracks me up still |
| 19:12.45 | OluapPlayer | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FLa_Bvyr1c |
| 19:13.52 | Xho | heh |
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| 19:28.19 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Can you give me a wyvern png? |
| 19:28.34 | OluapPlayer | wut for |
| 19:29.35 | Xho | Man this orange tastes perfect |
| 19:29.38 | Xho | Like your mother |
| 19:29.51 | OluapPlayer | but my mother is your mother cus hivemind |
| 19:30.23 | Xho | I'm suddenly not enjoying this orange |
| 19:30.43 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 19:31.15 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140616193102/spore/images/f/f2/Red_Wyvern_Image.png |
| 19:31.25 | Imperios | thx |
| 19:31.28 | Imperios | For picture |
| 19:43.24 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140616194245/spore/images/2/28/Human-Elf_War.png Dwagons |
| 19:43.42 | OluapPlayer | hoh |
| 19:52.53 | Xho | Hachiman: I just found this video of Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects playing a part of Sol Niger Within live |
| 19:53.00 | Xho | As in the entire band |
| 19:53.03 | Hachiman | Oh damn |
| 19:53.15 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY2Y4_vgarA |
| 19:55.42 | Xho | The fact that they can play it is insane in itself |
| 19:55.54 | Xho | The rhythmic parts I guess are quite easy to remember |
| 19:55.58 | Xho | The hard parts is just improv |
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| 20:18.17 | Imperios | Tried listening to the French anthem while working on the Empire |
| 20:18.18 | Imperios | Didn't work |
| 20:19.40 | Hachiman | Well duh |
| 20:19.56 | Hachiman | France doesn't work when trying to work on something that fights wars and not runs away in the, |
| 20:19.58 | Hachiman | *them |
| 20:20.05 | Imperios | Hur |
| 20:20.22 | OluapPlayer | Don't make French jokes while Angrybirds is here |
| 20:20.51 | Hachiman | ngh my apologies |
| 20:25.01 | Imperios | Well my logic was that |
| 20:25.35 | Imperios | >Formed after a huge revolution that devolved into a bloodshed >Turned into a huge authoritarian, yet modern, empire |
| 20:25.43 | Imperios | fits both the Empire and France hur |
| 20:27.54 | Imperios | Just curious |
| 20:28.13 | Imperios | Would anyone raise their eyebrows if I called a human character "Aethelwolf" |
| 20:28.19 | Hachiman | Nope |
| 20:28.45 | Imperios | ...Although honestly that would fit the Ordnung more considering it's English and not German |
| 20:28.53 | Hachiman | Ahem |
| 20:28.57 | Hachiman | Mannazians |
| 20:29.23 | Imperios | True |
| 20:29.55 | Imperios | Well technically Aethelwolf is Germanic in general but the German form of it would be "Adalwolf" or something |
| 20:29.58 | Technobliterator | hii |
| 20:30.00 | Imperios | Hi Jo |
| 20:30.34 | Hachiman | You do know that Adolf was a fairly common and popular name before Hitler right |
| 20:31.16 | Imperios | hur true |
| 20:31.30 | Imperios | Yes I know and that's why I asked |
| 20:31.40 | Technobliterator | wait, it isn't anymore? |
| 20:31.40 | Imperios | >Would anyone raise their eyebrows |
| 20:31.47 | Imperios | Technobliterator: It's forbidden |
| 20:31.52 | Technobliterator | well I mean I wouldn't blame someone for not wanting their child associated with hitler |
| 20:31.57 | Technobliterator | but what's wrong with "adolf"? |
| 20:32.09 | Imperios | I dunno but it's extremely rare now |
| 20:32.12 | Imperios | Which I find weird |
| 20:32.16 | Imperios | We have lots of Josefs there |
| 20:32.52 | Technobliterator | I don't like the censorship on history idea, it's stupid |
| 20:33.01 | Technobliterator | you're supposed to study history and not repeat mistakes |
| 20:33.02 | Technobliterator | not hide it |
| 20:33.05 | Imperios | Agree |
| 20:33.25 | Imperios | Hm... anyway |
| 20:33.50 | Imperios | Hachiman: Gimme the name for elven currency |
| 20:34.41 | Hachiman | Hmm |
| 20:35.36 | Hachiman | How can I give you a name, you're the one that knows High Elven hur |
| 20:35.57 | Imperios | hur true |
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| 20:39.06 | Angrybirds_ | OulapPlayer : Danke. |
| 20:40.02 | Imperios | Celanam |
| 20:41.41 | Imperios | That's nice-sounding |
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| 20:42.20 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 20:44.09 | Xho | Is it me or does Kicathian script look like a demonic crossword puzzle |
| 20:45.09 | OluapPlayer | cus u made it |
| 20:45.21 | Xho | True |
| 20:45.31 | Xho | Most of my language scripts are blocks really |
| 20:47.51 | Imperios | Hm |
| 21:02.23 | Angrybirds_ | test |
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| 21:08.39 | drom | slaps Zmr56 so hard, that it sends him flying* |
| 21:11.20 | drom | Too far... |
| 21:12.04 | drom | I caught a glimpse of Monet's expermination. It seems like a great idea. |
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| 21:40.20 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Man#The_Empire_Founded More stoof |
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| 21:46.49 | Hachiman | Ermenrich was an impressive individual |
| 21:47.29 | Hachiman | Although Ahmalhrich would call him a noob for getting assassinated hur |
| 21:47.58 | ImpyDroid | hur |
| 21:49.46 | OluapPlayer | lel |
| 21:49.53 | Hachiman | cuddles OluapPlayer |
| 21:50.55 | Xho | Now I wonder now what fashion will be like in the future |
| 21:53.36 | OluapPlayer | nakid |
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| 21:53.43 | Monet | Hello |
| 21:53.45 | OfficerJackal | I'm not sure at all. |
| 21:55.17 | ImpyDroid | Hi Mon! |
| 21:55.41 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 21:56.46 | Hachiman | hai |
| 21:57.46 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Monet47/Sandbox#Experimentation I had a go at my own system for sorting empires earlier today. The information is a bit more heavy so I'm not sure if its better or not than the current rating model |
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| 21:58.22 | Technobliterator | will these be different tables? Because you could merge that all into one table |
| 21:58.42 | Monet | I tried one big table but it was a little wide |
| 21:59.07 | Technobliterator | wide? |
| 21:59.46 | Technobliterator | oh I was going to suggest sorting that out with colspan |
| 21:59.53 | Technobliterator | but not sure if it would be worth the effort |
| 21:59.57 | Monet | colspan? |
| 22:00.20 | Technobliterator | basically, determines the amount of columns that are spanned |
| 22:00.47 | Technobliterator | so "<th colspan=10>" = a table header that spans 10 columns |
| 22:01.01 | Technobliterator | in this instance; "!colspan=10|Economy" or something |
| 22:01.15 | Technobliterator | but I do not think it would be worth the effort |
| 22:01.23 | Technobliterator | it might be better to do as you did and split them into sections anyway |
| 22:02.18 | Technobliterator | urm, well sortable is a good idea, it all seems to work, but some seem highly variable; however I personally feel there are enough sortable-worthy columns to make sortable useful here |
| 22:02.35 | Technobliterator | that's the design |
| 22:02.39 | Technobliterator | content itself is good with me |
| 22:02.51 | Monet | I had wondered how to create sub-tables. For instance I would have liked ot have one colum "wage" and within that "minimum ($/hour)" and "average ($/year)" |
| 22:03.20 | Technobliterator | Well, subtables in MediaWiki is litearlly just a case of throwing a table within a table |
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| 22:04.01 | Xho | Monet: I should mention that 8,200,000 billion is 8.2 quintillion not quadrillion |
| 22:04.03 | Technobliterator | (sorry for spam) |
| 22:04.08 | Xho | Unless you're using that other number system |
| 22:04.15 | Monet | Xho: Ahh crap thanks |
| 22:04.55 | Monet | Right now my main concern is do enough people understand what kind of information is there and whether or not there are too many columns for people to add their own stuff. |
| 22:05.14 | Xho | Seems alright if I added the Kicath |
| 22:05.22 | Xho | Not that I will |
| 22:05.28 | Xho | Just that I wouldn't be missing anyhting |
| 22:05.41 | Technobliterator | I would put it as a Project page |
| 22:05.52 | Technobliterator | Project:Fiction Universe/name |
| 22:06.52 | Xho | Murder rate per 1000 in the Kicath Empire |
| 22:06.58 | Xho | I don't even want to think |
| 22:07.46 | Monet | Most tables use the term "homicide" but that means that an empire's homicide rate only applies to an empire's human population |
| 22:08.52 | Monet | Okay how about this for the population, - I remove the s in billions |
| 22:10.06 | Xho | Although the economy part for the Kicath might be screwed |
| 22:10.26 | Monet | Because no money? |
| 22:10.31 | Xho | Exactly |
| 22:11.18 | Xho | I suppose I'd have to equate to another currency |
| 22:11.30 | Xho | Depending on a general development scale |
| 22:11.48 | Xho | Borealis Credits for the Remnant I guess |
| 22:11.50 | Monet | I would love to use a standardised currency unit (like how GDP is internationally measuerd in US$) but the problem is a few credits in a tier 1 is millions in a tier 4 |
| 22:12.32 | Xho | That and the employment sector as well |
| 22:12.46 | Xho | Kicath employment is usually primary and secondary sectors of industry |
| 22:12.52 | Xho | And quaternary |
| 22:13.03 | Xho | Tertiary industry is barely handled in person by Kicath |
| 22:13.34 | Monet | Yeah I'd lump quaternary inside tertiary |
| 22:14.07 | Xho | If anything due to their economy, the quaternary sector for the Kicath would be massive |
| 22:14.32 | Monet | Isn't the quaternary sector mostly to do with R&D? |
| 22:14.41 | Xho | Yeah |
| 22:15.01 | Xho | Information technology, anything along the lines of knowledge-based development |
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| 22:15.34 | Monet | Kicath - Developing knowledge in how to kill things is always good. |
| 22:15.46 | Xho | I had this crazy idea about how Kicath are able to create buildings |
| 22:15.57 | Xho | I doubt it would actually work realistically |
| 22:16.13 | Monet | Well what did you have in mind? |
| 22:16.36 | Xho | The idea was that the Kicath initially create a base for structures and then implement a 1:1 size hologram of the building |
| 22:17.11 | Xho | The building is then constructed by an automated '3D architectural printer' following the hologram's blueprints |
| 22:18.06 | Xho | So basically some massive form of digital materialisation |
| 22:18.25 | Monet | Using utility fog, advanced computing, sensors and forcefields that is entirely possible with the right technology |
| 22:19.02 | Xho | Well there we go hur |
| 22:19.40 | Monet | With the right networking software and inter-fog communication a visible hologram of the building you want is convenient but not needed for actual construction. |
| 22:19.51 | ImpyDroid2 | That's what Radeons do hur |
| 22:20.18 | Xho | Given that the Kicath could create entire cities very quickly probably |
| 22:20.18 | Monet | In a way the fog could "memorise" the 1:1 blueprint. |
| 22:21.00 | Xho | Great now I'm beginning to think Kicath could use that for a great deal of their manufacturing power |
| 22:21.44 | Monet | 3D printed houses and organs are on the horison to swhy not |
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| 22:21.54 | Zillafire101 | Hey guys |
| 22:21.55 | Xho | I've already established that they have nanotech prosthetics i.e. Agents |
| 22:22.01 | Monet | I myself have used city-scale holograms before - they're a tourist attraction set up by the DI in Cyrannus to give the locals a taste of the Imperium's core worlds. |
| 22:22.14 | Xho | Right so it's not an entirely new idea |
| 22:22.42 | Xho | What about cloning lifeforms in a similar matter hur |
| 22:22.57 | Monet | 3D printed lifeforms? |
| 22:23.01 | Xho | Yeah |
| 22:23.31 | Monet | Its very doable. |
| 22:23.44 | Xho | Kicath Empire - agent army agent army everywhere |
| 22:23.48 | Hachiman | Geezush |
| 22:23.58 | Xho | That is a good reason to stop them hur |
| 22:24.01 | Xho | A very good reason |
| 22:24.06 | Hachiman | Does that mean you can potentially have 3D-printed ecosystems and ecologies? |
| 22:24.13 | Monet | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10629531/The-next-step-3D-printing-the-human-body.html |
| 22:25.20 | Xho | In that case, creating Agent armour for Nu is pretty trivial |
| 22:25.23 | Monet | Doesn't the Empire have something close in the form of Agent Vs? |
| 22:25.31 | Xho | Empires do have Agent Vs yes |
| 22:26.03 | Xho | Judging with the Kicath's development in artificial intelligences they could probably manufacture entire armies of Agent Vs who run on AIs |
| 22:26.27 | Xho | It's just a general practice to enhance regular Kicath though an AI-Agent is far more efficient |
| 22:26.37 | Xho | Probably not in terms of producing one |
| 22:26.40 | Xho | But the end result |
| 22:27.10 | Monet | Wraith Legion - Ahh fuk walking tanks everywhere |
| 22:27.23 | Xho | They probably wouldn't call it an Agent at that point |
| 22:27.38 | Xho | If they would it would be an Agent-VI or something |
| 22:28.03 | Xho | I just wouldn't go there really |
| 22:28.25 | Xho | Agent IVs are effective enough and Agent Vs are Agent IV-killers |
| 22:29.01 | Xho | Agent VI would be verging on Dominion-level |
| 22:29.20 | OluapPlayer | Actually just a kitten |
| 22:29.31 | TekDroid | I personally believe we underestimate the level required for some of these fancy technologies. |
| 22:29.39 | Xho | Agent VI - meow :3 Nu - fuk |
| 22:30.15 | Zillafire101 | I know little of science, Culture's more of my area, so I leave that sort of thinking to smart people. |
| 22:31.03 | TekDroid | AIs, robotics, 3D printing; all those sorts of things are mere years away. |
| 22:31.57 | Xho | That being said the Kicath have been spacefaring for 167,000 years but then again I don't know what principles follow |
| 22:32.10 | Zillafire101 | Yes, but at the level we see Sci-Fi? |
| 22:32.58 | TekDroid | Within a few decades we could be full sci-fi. Except hover-anything and jetpacks. Those are just impractical, really. |
| 22:33.15 | Monet | I'd say it depends on the date |
| 22:33.23 | TekDroid | Also FTL is laws of physics permitting. :P |
| 22:33.44 | Monet | Peopl fro mthe 60s who grew up with star trek would be amazed at the varieties of computers we have |
| 22:33.51 | TekDroid | In many ways we're already in Science Fiction. |
| 22:34.19 | Xho | Speaking of computers I learnt of a computer we have at work |
| 22:34.36 | Xho | It was built in 2003/2004 and it's still more powerful than most computers we have now |
| 22:34.37 | TekDroid | Just insead of giant supercomputers we have supercomputers that can fir in your hand, for instance. |
| 22:34.56 | Xho | Like a desktop computer |
| 22:35.11 | TekDroid | But it probably cost a fortune. |
| 22:36.21 | Xho | Yeah |
| 22:36.23 | TekDroid | There's also the fact no one really saw the revolution of the internet and mobile communications. |
| 22:36.24 | Xho | £9000 |
| 22:36.44 | Xho | It definitely wasn't a gaming computer hur |
| 22:36.57 | Xho | Which reminds me I might need to get a workstation computer at home |
| 22:37.53 | Monet | Its likely Tier 2s and 1s can build computers that far surpass the human brain's capabilities. And not just planet-sized ones either |
| 22:39.24 | Xho | I might just get a barebones PC and use that |
| 22:40.15 | TekDroid | I personally think human-level intelligence really isn't that far off. |
| 22:40.42 | Xho | It isn't |
| 22:40.48 | Xho | At least not in the grand scheme of things |
| 22:41.04 | Xho | There was an AI that passed the Turing Test from what I remember |
| 22:41.39 | TekDroid | Actually that came up in my CS class today. |
| 22:42.29 | TekDroid | Apparently though it kinda gamed the system though, by giving it a childlike personality that can fool people. |
| 22:42.30 | Xho | I'd imagine in 20 or 30 years time computers will be probably working with considerable virtual intelligences |
| 22:44.38 | Xho | With technological advances nowadays we're closer to 'the future' now then we were closer to now around 20 years ago |
| 22:45.28 | Monet | Computing power roughly doubles every year. |
| 22:45.51 | TekDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.01 | TekDroid | -TVTropes |
| 22:46.21 | Monet | So its understandable that high tier 2 civilisations are starting ot edge int othe realm of clarketech. |
| 22:46.44 | OluapPlayer | "industrial robots, Roombas, and ass" |
| 22:46.49 | OluapPlayer | I like how this sentence ends |
| 22:47.05 | Monet | Roombas are stupid. |
| 22:47.29 | TekDroid | " unintelligent industrial robots, Roombas, and assault rifles made with plastic. Nobody thought about the Internet, though, nor extremely efficient fast food." |
| 22:47.32 | Xho | I bet by the time we're 40/50 we probably won't recognise many technologies |
| 22:47.38 | TekDroid | Probably |
| 22:48.12 | TekDroid | We fail to comprehend how most of our technology is obsolete within a year. |
| 22:49.22 | Monet | Humans g othrough three phases of their lives in regards to being introduced ot technology: WHen you're young all new releases are amazing and revolutionary and yo wonder how you got by without them, when you're middle-aged new tech is kinda meh and when your old it becomes either scary or pointless-looking |
| 22:59.42 | TekDroid | Oh, and I posted a forum topic about something a few of ua had been discussing last night. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:186070 |
| 23:02.09 | TekDroid | gtg |
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| 23:15.47 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Civilisations_And_Statistics right, page started |
| 23:18.21 | Monet | Stupid Wikia page format squishing my tables. |
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| 23:19.47 | Monet | TekDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Civilisations_And_Statistics tada |
| 23:20.57 | Monet | Anyone is free to add their empires but I give two advisories: 1) fill in one table at a time, 2) make sure only one person works on a table at a time to prevent edit conflicts |
| 23:21.31 | TekDroid | Cool. I'll add mine to that. |
| 23:21.50 | Angrybirds | Monet Tekdroid: I'm next! :D |
| 23:22.44 | TekDroid | Feel free to start. Just pulling out my laptop. |
| 23:23.03 | Angrybirds | Alright. |
| 23:23.14 | Angrybirds | Monet: Who wrote the Civilizations and Statistics list? |
| 23:23.19 | Zillafire101 | I've got to go. Cya all later |
| 23:23.31 | Monet | AngryBirds: You mean the tables? |
| 23:24.17 | Angrybirds | I meant, in canon, the Gigaquadrantic Universal Order was written by Jean Delonier until he died in the Halcyon B explosion and was finished by the French president. |
| 23:24.27 | Monet | Ah |
| 23:24.34 | Angrybirds | Adding France. |
| 23:24.42 | Monet | I'm not sure who. |
| 23:25.00 | TekDroid | Editing the politics table (bottom one) |
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| 23:27.56 | Monet | This could simply be international records or something |
| 23:27.57 | OfficerJackal | Hello! |
| 23:32.47 | Angrybirds | Tekdroid: Tackling economy. |
| 23:32.57 | TekDroid | Done politics. Anyone editing domestic? |
| 23:39.05 | TekDroid | Monet: Didn't we have a page on government forns and such somewhere? |
| 23:39.10 | TekDroid | *forms |
| 23:41.07 | Monet | TekDroid: Should be one of Ghelae's pages, let me look |
| 23:42.55 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghel%C3%A6/Guide_To_Stuff here we go |
| 23:43.43 | TekDroid | Ah, that's it. Thanks. |
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| 23:47.28 | ZF101 | Hi guys! |
| 23:48.20 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 23:53.21 | ZF101 | I just made a Q/A subpage for Phase-Hunter. Now he can answer all the questions you never wanted answered. |
| 23:59.46 | TekDroid | Done with Domestic. Moving on to economy. |
