IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140603

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00:03.43HachimanOluapPlayer: quoted
00:05.04TekDroidCan I get quotes on this? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Farengeto_Republic
00:05.13TekDroidafk
00:09.56OluapPlayerSorry I was getting pancakes
00:10.21The_RandomnessPancakes at this time of the day?
00:10.23OluapPlayerHachiman: Wragrot - who u callin primitive u zoles-sukin whor
00:10.31OluapPlayerMy pancakes are not the same as yours
00:11.08The_Randomnesso
00:11.19OluapPlayerI have so many pages to update now
00:11.26OluapPlayerIt should leave me occupied for a few hours
00:14.49HachimanSo I was wondering about pig creatures in the Fantasyverse
00:14.57HachimanLike, just as a general curious idea
00:15.05OluapPlayerur a pig
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00:18.27MonetIts a thought, certainly and it could be an interesting one
00:18.45MonetAlthough you do have a few creatures you've created but have yet to use
00:20.05HachimanAye
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00:22.05OluapPlayerTime to start
00:22.08OluapPlayerThe Updatening
00:22.57HachimanKA-BEEEWM
00:24.06OluapPlayerI hope I didn't scare with me face-to-face PAEG FINISHIN'
00:24.49HachimanMy pages are all bloody dead
00:25.07OluapPlayerNngh need to make a Murgur diplomat now
00:25.13OluapPlayerl8r
00:25.34HachimanI'm wondering if there would be Murgur groups opposed to the Empire
00:26.01OluapPlayerThere probably are but they'd be minor
00:26.15OluapPlayerAlso I just realized, the Murgur Empire being members of the PCA means the Alliance now has Varkorus in it
00:26.24OluapPlayeraka the species they always considered vermin
00:26.33Hachimanhue
00:26.37OfficerJackalHachiman: Reading the Murger over, I would think they would most certainly would be resistance groups here and there. You can't just suddenly shock change an entire Empire to something without some people getting completely pissed off. XD
00:27.02OfficerJackalHachiman: Like Lawless Warbands to Suddenly Lawful Empire.
00:27.05OfficerJackal:/
00:27.18OluapPlayerOf course, I noted that on the page itself
00:27.41OluapPlayerWragrot is forcefully turning them lawful because he knows that asking nicely won't work
00:28.37OfficerJackalYeah, they were never going to just peacefully convert to something like that, some force had to be applied in the process. But yeah, I would imagine there would be resistance groups here and there, but in a few generations if the Empire holds stable, they should for the most part dissapate.
00:29.05OluapPlayerWragrot - dissipate cus i kill dem all dat is
00:29.22OfficerJackalLol. XD Yeah.
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00:32.05OluapPlayerolol
00:32.26OluapPlayerHachiman: You need to include Vekaron's team to Kalcedia's relations
00:33.08Hachimanfuk
00:34.58OluapPlayerI was going to write beer
00:35.01OluapPlayerI wrote bear instead
00:35.37Hachimanolol
00:43.14Tek0516Droid~test
00:43.15infobotwell, test is not funny
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00:45.26Tek0516Droidhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Farengeto_Republic Can I get some feedback and/or quotes on this?
00:48.23MonetI'll have a look
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01:01.35MonetLooks good so far. A nice surrary of the government.
01:02.34MonetRegarding mentioned planets, I noticed that it jsut says Farentego is the capital while on other's there's a brief "claim to fame" type statement
01:04.44Tek0516DroidI'll check on that.
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01:09.28GD12Hello
01:09.37Tek0516DroidHey
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01:17.09GD12hello there
01:19.01Tek0516DroidHey GD12, do you have any feedback or quotes for this? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Farengeto_Republic
01:19.34GD12reading
01:19.40GD12i probably have a dominatus quote ready
01:22.10GD12Right well i'll be more detailed later since I have dinner soon but generally you have a good layout just add more descriptions and expand
01:22.14GD12then you'll have a quote soon
01:22.43Tek0516DroidYeah, planets and such especially need expansion.
01:23.28GD12Also I need to talk to Patriot because I don't like the idea of out-brutefocing the Dominatus on land on a unit by unit  basis during Mirus
01:23.53GD12since brute force is the Tyranny's niche
01:24.01GD12during Ad at least
01:25.21Tek0516DroidDefinitely
01:25.53GD12Also the allies will have air supremacy and numerical supremacy
01:26.07GD12So it doesn't really make sense to overpower the Tyranny on a ground unit by ground unit basis
01:28.05Tek0516DroidNo doubt
01:28.32Tek0516DroidEspecially since Tyranny is supposed to be borderline Tier 1
01:29.25GD12yeah
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01:32.39TekDroidBattery died. XD
01:32.56GD12that sucks
01:33.02GD12you getting your new pc soon?
01:33.25TekDroidI'm going to have to.
01:33.50TekDroidMy spare charger is broken now.
01:34.00GD12ouchie
01:34.09TekDroid(Stupid Chinese manufacturing. )
01:34.12MonetTek: Quoted.
01:34.26TekDroidMonet: Thank you.
01:36.21MonetI do wonder if young factions that looka at the Imperium feel lik they're staring into a time abyss
01:37.37MonetThe Imperium was an interstellar Empire while humans were still preparing ot migrate out of Africa
01:37.54GD12thats probably true
01:37.58GD12sicne the DI is like 200k years old
01:38.20GD12thats a very stable empire
01:38.40MonetWell....it has waxed and waned over the years
01:38.54GD12aye but it still exists
01:39.02GD12the Tyranny dies before it reaches its 300th year of existence
01:39.22TekDroidthe first FTL among Farengeto races was only 2659, and the Republic was only formed 2783. They're all but a child.
01:40.36MonetThey have come far in a short space of time
01:41.06MonetNow they just have to make sure they don't expand *too* fast
01:41.29TekDroidOf course they do have the benefit of an AI manipulating things behind the scenes to aid their development.
01:42.27TekDroidThe upcoming 2800 election section is at least partly to point out things aren't all pretty either.
01:43.09Monet2783...by Draconis standards the Republic is barely out of its teething phase heh
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01:44.50GD12aye hur
01:45.11GD12Well uriel is almost as old as the DT hur
01:45.28GD12larnus is older than the DT
01:45.33TekDroidHow old is Uriel?
01:45.43Monet250 years roundabout
01:46.03MonetHis dad live to roughly 1000 and passedo n when Uriel was 77
01:46.39TekDroidThen Uriel was already well into adulthood by the time Farengeto reached FTL.
01:48.00MonetDefinitely
01:49.14MonetOne of the "tests" Draconis consider for an expanding empire is if the civilisation can survive past its first truly ambitious ruler
01:49.52GD12Something the DT just failed hur
01:49.57MonetTo put into context, the Mongolian and Macedonian empires were a fail to Draconis criteria while the Ottoman empire was a success
01:50.09MonetYeah, DT failed.
01:50.42MonetIIRC the DT's failure came from a dual attack of a slave uprising and an incompetent successor.
01:50.44TekDroidThe first ruler, Unaria Harenia, was peaceful but the 2795-2800 is quite ambitious
01:51.11GD12that and pissing off the rest of the Gigaquadrant
01:51.26GD12The way in whcih they expanded was not a good recipe for coexistence
01:51.30MonetAt least Abbadon tried to keep status quo
01:51.34GD12yeah
01:51.43MonetMedusa was simply a giant fuckwit
01:51.53GD12he tried to expand while not stepping on the toes of the bigger players
01:52.08GD12so by the time he needed to confront them he would be better prepared
01:52.15MonetAnd Medusa went "fuck that MORE COLONIES"
01:52.41MonetComplete with half-deranged arm flailing
01:53.40GD12Abaddon would also have avoided the every front war that Medusa got the Tyranny into
01:54.14GD12In the event of a slave rebellion he would have just formed a blockade at the outermost places with his ships and surrounded the planetbound slaves
01:54.19TekDroidYeah, Medusa kinda screwed them over.
01:54.31GD12He would also have entered into peace treaties with pretty much everyone so he could take care of the slaves first
01:54.50MonetMedusa is a graduate of the Garrosh Hellscream political academy
01:54.54GD12Of course if you luck out with a ruler as good as Abaddon in the first place you're bound to have bad luck later
01:54.55GD12hur
01:54.56GD12yeah
01:55.50MonetIts interesting that Abbadon respected Uriel before he kicked it
01:56.18GD12aye
01:56.39GD12Of course Abaddon's plan was to attack the AGC with the DT's full might before the slave revolt occured
01:57.13MonetGet rid of the big players first, then mop up the rest
01:57.28MonetWhat would he have done with Alcanti had he remained alive?
01:57.35GD12hmm
01:57.58GD12Well there are two seperate pieces at play there
01:58.22GD12On one hand he does respect the Draconis but on the other hand Medusa who would still be Administrator of Andromeda if he was alive would want to burn it to the ground
01:58.52GD12It would probably end up as a a Dominatus war-museum as some kind of compromise
01:59.24GD12A bit like the Soviet WWII monuments in Berlin
01:59.51MonetIf he's the tyrant then doesn't he have power t ostop his daughter from burning that planet to the ground?
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02:00.41GD12He does, but he's rather lenient with his daughter.
02:01.02GD12One of the things I must've forgot to mention about him is that his daughter is the only person he really has an emotional connection with
02:01.19MonetOh...
02:01.47GD12I'll write  it up when I get around to making an Abaddon page
02:02.24MonetWhat would have been the fate of the royal family under Abaddon? Reason I'm asking is that Tyraz would be a bit homicidal and angry if they were all killed
02:03.19GD12Well once he would have found out about the fate of Alessa and Uriel he would probably demand Medusa stop the needless cruelty since it only advances her petty goals.
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02:03.36GD12He would probably keep them in stasis or something.
02:04.00MonetI think we've both seen what happens to Tyraz when Uriel or Alessa are threatened.
02:04.05GD12Aye
02:04.11OfficerJackalHello!
02:04.21TekDroidWasn't their a what if bit where DT storms the palace?
02:04.26GD12yeah
02:04.31TekDroidHey OJ
02:04.52GD12I ought to make an Abaddon page soon
02:05.14MonetHachi and I theorised a successor bit where Uriel makes contact with Tyraz, Tyraz finds out what happened and goes paeshit
02:05.18Monetapeshit*
02:05.28GD12yeah he wouldl go absolutely apehsit
02:05.38GD12Perhaps Uriel when hes left in the room
02:05.43GD12after hes forced to kill alessa
02:05.55GD12then tyraz makes psychic contact with him and learns about it
02:06.32MonetHachi's told me that Uriel is one of the things keeping him sane, and could really lose it if he loses Uriel
02:07.13GD12To lose Uriel in that fashion would truly drive him crazy
02:07.21GD12and probably give him a lifelong vendetta agaisnt the DT
02:08.38TekDroidThere'd probably end up being some grand Dominatus v. Tyraz battle as the AGC fell.
02:08.46MonetYou'd have to ask Hachi about whether or not this would be enough to drive him into losing to Demon.
02:08.52GD12yeah
02:09.02GD12Well if he got a psychic vision of Uriel's last moments
02:09.09GD12being forced to kill alessa etc
02:09.16MonetNo one would be safe if he does.
02:10.38Monetnight
02:10.40GD12night
02:12.41GD12dinner bai
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02:17.51Patriot868Hello
02:18.19OfficerJackalHey!
02:22.25Patriot868Whats new?
02:23.25OfficerJackalNothing much. XD
02:24.31Patriot868Ive done some major overhauls to the navy and gorund forces recently
02:24.54OfficerJackalCool! :D
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02:30.36OfficerJackalHello! Welcome back!
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02:39.34TekDroidHello
02:39.37OfficerJackalWelcome back!
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02:47.21TekDroidHaving no laptop due to charger issues is agonizing. :/
02:53.39OfficerJackalD:
02:55.32TekDroidOrdered a replacement, but at this point I'm probably gettinh a new laptop entirely
02:56.02TekDroidMine has a poor graphics card.
03:18.14TekDroid~test
03:18.15infoboti guess test is not funny
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06:22.44ImpyDroidHello everyone
06:23.50ImpyDroidTybusen: My mother's friend claims she saw footage of the Ukraine crisis depicting people in stereotypical Russian costumes speaking in broken Russian people in the news while she was in New York
06:24.11ImpyDroidIs it plausible?
06:24.34ImpyDroidAs in, does stuff like this really appear on TV?
06:26.20TybusenProbably
06:26.26TybusenDepends on which news network it is
06:26.38TybusenBut American TV sometimes shows stuff like that
06:27.58TybusenI'm quite honestly a little tired of hearing about the Ukraine crisis, just as long as that little embroglio in Eastern Ukraine settles down without anymore secessions I'll be happy
06:28.57ImpyDroidDoes it appear often on the TV or something?
06:29.18TybusenIt's starting to fade from the front pages, though there's still reports of it
06:29.31ImpyDroidI see
06:29.39TybusenBut otherwise the American media is turning its attention elsewhere now
06:30.29TybusenEveryone got way too worked up over the Crimea crisis, I personally didn't care whether or not Crimea joined up with Russia or not
06:30.55ImpyDroidIt's still in vogue here, as in everybody is talking about it
06:31.02TybusenWell yeah
06:31.08TybusenYou guys are right next to it
06:31.13TybusenWe're America though
06:31.27TybusenWe don't have the attention spans to even pay attention to the affairs of our two land neighbors
06:32.08ImpyDroidhur
06:32.09TybusenWe care more about the two big islands that sit on the opposite sides of our two oceans from us
06:32.32Tybusenaka Animuland and Teaandcrumpetsland
06:32.46ImpyDroidhur
06:33.14ImpyDroidWell we have plenty of weeaboos too, just ask Alyona
06:33.19ImpyDroidKoreeaboos, too
06:33.26TybusenI would get angry though if Putin dicks over Ukraine again and waltzes into Donetsk or something
06:33.53ImpyDroidI pray he won't be that stupid
06:34.17ImpyDroidRestoring national borders and securing the country is one thing
06:34.20TybusenLike, "yo, Putin bro I let you have Crimea because its sovereignty is really vague, but that Donetsk place is seriously Ukraine's territory for sure and I'll be pissed if you take it too"
06:34.37ImpyDroidOutright Anschluss is another
06:35.28TybusenSome of my friends criticized me for my viewpoint on the Crimea crisis, saying it's exactly like the Anschluss... except it's not since Crimea actually has a really convoluted sovereignty status
06:35.52TybusenEastern Ukraine, on the other hand, would be imperialism and I'd draw the line there
06:36.37ImpyDroidThat and Crimea has an important strategical position that could be used against Russia as well
06:36.53ImpyDroidSo essentially we took over it because we were scared of you getting there hur
06:37.14TybusenIt's kind of a moot point with Turkey though
06:37.27ImpyDroidWhat do you mean?
06:37.43TybusenSince even if you have the Black Sea port, we can always ask Turkey just to block the Strait of Dardanelles if Russia gets aggressive with its navy
06:38.09TybusenAnd we all know Turkey and Russia aren't the best of buddies either
06:38.51TybusenThat was the entire point of the Crimean War in 1852 in fact
06:38.56ImpyDroidhur
06:39.09TybusenBritain and France declared war on Russia in order to prevent Russia from conquering the Ottoman Empire
06:39.30TybusenSince the Ottomans were the only things standing between Russia's Black Sea fleet and access to the rest of the ocean
06:40.04ImpyDroidWell even if we can't attack from Crimea, neither can anyone else if it's ours
06:41.34TybusenIn a hypothetical war against Russia, Crimea would probably be a lower-priority port compared to St. Petersburg or Vladivostok as long as Turkey could keep the Strait blocked
06:42.40TybusenThough I guess the difference between now and 1850 is that naval strike range has greatly increased and if Russia was interested and lolzbombing Europe, they wouldn't have to move their Black Sea fleet much anyways
06:44.26TybusenAnd any war in modern times would escalate to nukes fairly quickly, so Crimea would be as good as gone anyways in that case
06:44.31ImpyDroidhue
06:45.16TybusenRussia - lolz we gonna lolzbomb Europe k merica? | America - lolz okay but only if we get to lolznuke Russia | Russia - k luv u
06:49.44ImpyDroidrite
06:53.00ImpyDroidI doubt there will be an all-out war though, the world economics are too intertwined nowadays
06:56.12ImpyDroidIt's not that we both don't rely on China, for example
06:56.20ImpyDroidSpeaking of China
06:56.24ImpyDroidMy mom asked
06:56.46ImpyDroidDoes your family experience racism in your daily life?
06:56.49ImpyDroidAs in, school etc
07:03.48Tybusennot really
07:04.43TybusenOf all the racial minorities in America, Asians seem to be treated the least negatively
07:05.16TybusenThe worst that racism against Asians seems to get is that we suck at driving
07:05.54TybusenIf there's any racism against Asian-Americans in America it's likely under the surface or in some corner of the States that I never get news about
07:06.37TybusenWell actually
07:07.11TybusenAsians tend to be the people most commonly portrayed as butchering the English language
07:07.27ImpyDroidhur
07:07.56TybusenSome people do make somewhat offensive "Ching Chong Ding Dong" jokes but otherwise the racism against Asians does not seem to be nearly as bad as that against Latinos or Blacks
07:08.28ImpyDroidChing Chong Ding Dong
07:08.54ImpyDroidI think I was called something like this in Russia too
07:10.11TybusenI know that racism against Asians used to be far worse in the 20th century
07:10.37TybusenThough I think most people here think Asians are the coolest things ever because of the Japanese Invasion and the rise of kung-fu movies
07:11.49TybusenJapanese and American culture now heavily borrow from each other and the stigma against the Chinese has largely disappeared because apparently Asians are the coolest racial group ever now
07:13.57ImpyDroidIn Russia it kinda depends on the person in question and the Asian ethnicity in question
07:14.50ImpyDroidCentral Asians are treated a bit like Latinos in the USA I think
07:15.31TybusenIf we're talking about Asians as in the entire continent instead of just East Asia, then yes racism against Asians is still very much alive in America
07:16.00ImpyDroidWell appearance-wise Central Asians look fairly Asian too
07:16.04ImpyDroidMongolian, dunno
07:16.15TybusenA person of Middle Eastern heritage probably can't show up in the news without at least one person crying "Terrorist!"
07:16.16ImpyDroidThough some of them look more like Persians
07:16.27ImpyDroidhur
07:16.44TybusenI think we also have a certain amount of condescension towards Indians
07:17.11ImpyDroidThe indigenous people of Siberia and the likes are treated a tad like your Native Americans, minus the whole genocide thing
07:17.29ImpyDroidNow the actual Russian East Asians like me
07:17.42ImpyDroidIt depends on the person
07:17.48TybusenWell, we probably treat the Native Americans the way we do because we're all collectively feeling guilty about that whole genocide thing
07:18.50ImpyDroidSome can act pretty racist, but those more cultured won't be racist
07:19.00ImpyDroid*will be more PC
07:19.12ImpyDroidThough people tend to inquire about my ancestry
07:20.07TybusenA lot of my friends have to ask me about what my ancestry is
07:20.12TybusenIncluding the Asian-American onces
07:20.15Tybusen*ones
07:20.46TybusenI have a Chinese-American friend who has mistakenly identified me as Japanese and Korean before
07:22.54ImpyDroidHappens to me too
07:23.03ImpyDroidI was once mistaken for Buryat
07:23.57TybusenKorean I can understand since of all the East Asian ethnicities, Korean is probably the closest to Chinese, and my last name uses a spelling that's apparently more common among Koreans than Chinese
07:24.14TybusenBut Japanese? I don't look Japanese at all nor does my name sound even remotely Japanese
07:24.42TybusenI can actually easily tell the difference between a Chinese person and a Japanese person if you gave me their names
07:25.18TybusenChinese names tend to have one or two syllables max for the last name, while the Japanese tend to cram at least two or three syllables into their last names
07:25.21ImpyDroidWell duh
07:25.28ImpyDroidObviously
07:25.50ImpyDroidThough the actual Korean language is closer to Japanese than Chinese
07:25.56TybusenYeah
07:26.18TybusenBut of the East Asian ethnicities, I have the most trouble distinguishing between Chinese and Korean
07:26.32TybusenBased on appearance alone, though, it's difficult either way
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07:27.30TybusenBut I don't mind because trying to tell a Chinese person from a Japanese person based on appearance is like trying to distinguish any of the European ethnicities from each other
07:28.22TybusenThe best clue I have when I try to tell Europeans apart is that the Southern European ethnicities tend to be tanner than the others
07:28.37TybusenOther than that it's a big guessing game
07:28.54ImpyDroidYa
08:30.39ImpyDroidAnd then the IRC died
08:31.12Liquid_Inkpokes it to make sure it's dead.
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08:36.20Liquid_Inkhttp://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/EPIC_Gallery/Gallery5b/44257_C5_Hecatoncheires.jpg Such Classical mythological eldritch abomination.
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08:50.30JepardiHi
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09:55.46Liquid_InkGod damn it wormy
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11:03.43AdmiralPandahi all
11:17.59ImperiosHi
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11:56.54OluapPlayerThis LawfulInsane guy fucked up big time
11:57.31AdmiralPanda?
11:57.55OluapPlayerHe made a creature when Xho had already claimed it
11:58.05AdmiralPandao…kay...
11:58.19AdmiralPandain what context?
11:58.20OluapPlayerHe's gonna be really pissed off
11:58.24OluapPlayerI can already see it
11:58.33AdmiralPandaoh right you mean he's made Xho mad
11:58.39AdmiralPandaI thought you meant he broke rules or something
11:58.56AdmiralPandayeah Xho's gonna go berserk
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11:59.36OluapPlayerYou see at the Kelodhros page in the fantasyverse, there's these elemental Drake races listed. One of them was "Sky Drakes" which Xho had already claimed and even used in a story once
11:59.45OluapPlayerNow LawfulInsane suddenly made a Sky Drake page with a model he made
12:01.01AdmiralPandaok yeah that's gonna end badly
12:01.05AdmiralPandadid he even ask anyone?
12:01.28MonetI never heard anything
12:01.41OluapPlayerHe asked Ghelae
12:01.51AdmiralPandaactually that reminds me, I've still got to make those French horsemanns
12:02.12OluapPlayerAnd Ghelae did say "the creator of the Sky Drakes is presumably whoever added them to the Kelodhros page"
12:02.14OluapPlayerthat being Xho
12:02.34AdmiralPandaso yeah Lawful did a drum
12:02.37AdmiralPandadum*
12:03.41OluapPlayerI'm unsure if I should delete that page
12:03.51OluapPlayerI know Xho's gonna go on a frenzy if he sees it
12:04.34AdmiralPandawhat do the wiki's rules say about claiming someone else's creation?
12:05.05AdmiralPandabecause we all know they're Xho's thing, there's no argument there
12:05.57OluapPlayerWell we don't have an specific rule for that. Closest we have is that you can't mention someone else's creation without their permission
12:06.09AdmiralPandaright, in that case use your judgement
12:06.39ImperiosHello everyone
12:06.52ImperiosOluapPlayer: Okay
12:06.53ImperiosI allowed him
12:07.01OluapPlayerWhy the hell
12:07.16ImperiosHey Xho didn't make their in-game model or even give them a proper description
12:07.20ImperiosI think he can handle them
12:07.51MonetDon't storm drakes fill a similar role?
12:08.00OluapPlayerIf that's the case then I could take whatever vaguely described part of your fiction and claim it as my own
12:08.23OluapPlayerStorm Drakes represent thunder, Sky Drakes represent air
12:08.54ImperiosOluapPlayer: Okay let make Xho come
12:08.57ImperiosThen I'll talk to him
12:09.10OluapPlayerI'm deleting the page anyway
12:09.54Imperiosrite
12:11.01ImperiosWell TBH
12:11.27ImperiosLI could make them like
12:11.37ImperiosYou know we have Fire Drakes and then we have these magic Dracogonarious
12:12.00OluapPlayerThese aren't Fire Drakes
12:12.07OluapPlayerThey're a different species
12:12.59ImperiosI mean they are treated as a subtype of the former
12:13.59ImperiosSubspecies
12:15.32Imperiosso perhaps LI's drakes could be a subspecies?
12:16.18OluapPlayerI'm not the person you should ask that to
12:20.13ImperiosAlright
12:26.13ImperiosSo don't blame LI, okay?
12:26.17ImperiosIt's my fault
12:26.21ImperiosMy fault again
12:27.10WormyWho is LI?
12:27.21WormySorry to butt in, nvm
12:27.26AdmiralPandaLawfulInsane
12:27.33Wormyi see
12:28.20WormyI'm pretty sure the rules on this are clear, or are they not?
12:28.44WormySometimes I worry these things aren't clearly presented on the wiki.
12:29.18WormyPeop;le complain that there is no rules page when it is linked tyo the main one
12:30.50OluapPlayerThere's no specifically written for "taking someone else's creation". I personally believe this should be obvious enough to not be a rule, but if you want me to add it, then I'll do that
12:32.10WormyIt is stated on the Bad Starter, but yes, it might be a hgood idea to state it clearly elsewhere like the rules page.
12:32.26OluapPlayerAlright
12:33.51MonetWas LI aware that Xho had claim to Sky Drakes?
12:34.00ImperiosHe was not
12:34.08ImperiosHe asked me and I was "hey sure why not"
12:34.37ImperiosMy fault
12:36.27OluapPlayerGhelae gave him a good answer on his message wall but he seems to have ignored it
12:37.50WormyI think, since LI has done it in good faith, and Imperios made a mistake, it isn't a big issue.  This should be made clear to LI and Xho
12:38.04OluapPlayerIt's not a big issue no
12:38.11OluapPlayerIt would only get big if Xho found out
12:38.18Wormyaye
12:39.36OluapPlayerAnyway
12:39.50AdmiralPandaanyway, kitsune are kawaii
12:39.55OluapPlayerur kawaii
12:40.01MonetI'm going ot make a slight tweak to the entry of the Kicatihan death-drink on tv tropes - Instead of summarising it as "flavoured alcohol" I'll call it "flavoured ethanol"
12:40.02OluapPlayerImperios: Since you quoted the Murgur Empire page I assume you've read the ending of the Murgur arc
12:40.27AdmiralPanda*gasp* senpai noticed me
12:40.38OluapPlayerhur
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12:40.49AdmiralPandanot that you're my senpai but still
12:40.52OluapPlayerdumba
12:40.54AdmiralPandathanks for saying I'm kawaii :3
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12:41.32Technobliteratorya dad
12:41.42Technobliteratorsorry about that there, pc issues :|
12:41.47OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Year_7#This_Is_My_Warband chek ending
12:41.54Technobliteratoroooh sweet
12:42.07Technobliteratorcan you let me finish with this GIMP stuff then I'll have a look?
12:42.16OluapPlayeryeh
12:42.59ImperiosOluapPlayer: Yeah
12:43.15OluapPlayerwut did you think
12:44.33ImperiosIt has slightly ominous implications
12:45.24ImperiosSure, Wragrot's a good leader, but his speech was a tad Hitleresque, and the "Empire of the Murgur" name too sounds a bit... well... threatening
12:45.47ImperiosI can imagine Wragrot going down a darker path or perhaps another leader replacing him
12:45.56ImperiosSpeaking of which, I like Yatakhan's redemption story
12:46.22AdmiralPandaOluap: since I haven't been following Ice Age the significance is lost on me, but it was very well written
12:46.33OluapPlayerIt's Hitleresque because the Murgur are a warmongering race
12:46.50OluapPlayerYou can't expect Wragrot to tell them to suddenly hold hands and hug everyone
12:46.50Imperiosya
12:47.03ImperiosOf course
12:47.09ImperiosThough it'd be funny
12:47.24ImperiosWragrot - FRIENDSHIP & LOVE FOR EVERYONE <333333333333
12:47.32OluapPlayerGroanknir - ew
12:48.58MonetI blame the Galactic Empire for bringing negative connotations to the term "empire"
13:03.22WormyI'm an Imperial, I think the GE was the best thing to happen to the Star Wars galaxy
13:03.33WormyIt purged the corrupt Jedi
13:03.50Wormywho digged their own grave
13:03.58AdmiralPandaI just laugh at the whole "prophesy" thing
13:04.20WormyI never liked the Jedi after they wiped out the Mandalorians
13:04.28AdmiralPandathe Jedi were pretty stupid to not realise "balance" means "make good and evil equal" not "destroy evil"
13:05.18WormyThat and, during the Clone Wars they seemed to break their own codes
13:05.38WormyAt least the New Jedi Order has a chance to restart
13:05.59Wormya new
13:06.40MonetI recall that Luke spent some time trying to understand the Dark Side before founding a new Jedi academy
13:09.40Technobliteratormeh, I can't be bothered to do TAY for the time being
13:09.43TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, I will read now
13:09.50OluapPlayergud
13:09.57MonetThe "chosen one" was supposed to bring balance to the Force yeah
13:10.30MonetBut light must have dark in order for life ot thrive
13:11.23AdmiralPandaand Anakin fulfilled the prophesy by destroying both extremes
13:12.58ImperiosYes
13:13.18ImperiosCome to think about both the Jedi and the Sith in the Legacy used some elements of their enemies' teachings
13:13.39ImperiosThe Sith were unified into a single order bound by one purpose whereas the Imperial Knights led an empire
13:15.44MonetI recall Jedi master Kyle Katarn believed that "power of the fource are not good or evil inherently, but by how they are used"
13:15.48MonetForce*
13:15.58Monetpowers*
13:18.06MonetI suppose he has a point depending on how you look at usage
13:18.16AdmiralPandayeah, a lot of the whole "light and dark" thing is just perceptional
13:19.20MonetOne could use lightning in order to create a fire for camp or to separate one from pursuers. And one could use heal to keep a prisoner alive for further torture
13:20.19MonetKyle himself was one of a few Jedi who has had experience in both the light and dark side
13:23.03MonetThere was once a Sith Lord who expored the Dark Side but was well aware of the addiction nature of feeding off passions.
13:26.55MonetAlso in practice, the Chosen One prophecy isn't a be-all-and-end-all
13:27.12MonetBalance is a dynamic state
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13:28.10Technobliteratorfuck
13:28.16Technobliteratoroluap can you link me again?
13:28.24OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Year_7#This_Is_My_Warband
13:28.46MonetSo even if Anakin did succeed as a Chosen One, it's unlikely he was the first or the last
13:29.11AdmiralPandaright, I am officially prepared for D&D several days ahead of time
13:29.48OluapPlayerreally dam nito
13:34.13TechnobliteratorTismahgo - Are you ready to give the crowd the time of their lives, Wragrot? By that, I mean the end of your own, of course.
13:34.14TechnobliteratorWragrot - Look at you. You look like a damn Grox.
13:34.15Technobliteratorahahahaha
13:37.28AdmiralPandaso yeah now whenever D&D happens next I have a lot of material prepared
13:39.35Technobliteratoryatakhan is now my favourite murgur
13:41.00AdmiralPandaImperios: gonna create my french horsemanns now
13:41.11MonetBTW sorry (both for recently and in future) If I've not been talkative lately or giving feedback. Lately I've been working hard on drawing both to skill up and to assemble stuff I can sell to people as prints
13:41.17ImperiosAdmiralPanda: Nyan
13:42.52Technobliteratorsection's awesome, again, I love Yatakhan
13:43.01Technobliteratorit was a sad farewall to Wragot
13:43.25OluapPlayerI'm glad you like it
13:44.48AdmiralPandahm, what's the average population of a large fantasyverse city?
13:45.12OluapPlayerI don't know the average population of any city hur
13:45.27MonetAdmiralPanda: 10-20,000 is my guess
13:45.33AdmiralPandarite
13:46.15MonetI live in England so our criteria for village, town and city aren't defined by population
13:46.26ImperiosHm
13:46.28ImperiosLet me think
13:47.27ImperiosAdmiralPanda: Since the Empire is mostly Rennaissance, I guess 100,000
13:47.58ImperiosParis had ~200-300 thousand people during the 16th century, so 100 would be fine
13:50.26Imperioshttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140603134952/spore/images/b/b9/Dryadali_Manuscript.jpg Hey look what I made
13:54.55AdmiralPandaalso what's the current date in Koldenwelt?
13:55.25Imperios30 NA
13:55.39ImperiosAlso where are the French humans going to live BTW?
13:55.51OluapPlayerCurrent date is 32, not 30
13:59.43AdmiralPandaImperios: a fortified city somewhere on the outskirts of the Empire
14:00.00AdmiralPandapreferably in the most open terrain that isn't desert available
14:00.52ImperiosEastern Plains
14:00.54ImperiosI guess
14:01.09ImperiosI assume they descended from the Mannaz, right?
14:01.36AdmiralPandaI have no clue what the mannaz are
14:02.13ImperiosMannaz = one of the main Imperial ethnic groups
14:02.22ImperiosBasically Germanic/North European people
14:02.38AdmiralPandawell I had intended for them to not be Imperial, so I would say no
14:02.43ImperiosOh
14:02.47ImperiosThey are not Imperial?
14:02.57AdmiralPandano, they're their own thing
14:03.00ImperiosI thought they were
14:03.02ImperiosMy mistake
14:03.14AdmiralPandathey maintain positive-ish relations with the Empire but they're most certainly their own thing
14:03.25ImperiosSo, allies/protectorate/whatever
14:03.32AdmiralPandano, just happy neighbours
14:03.50Imperiosrite
14:04.09AdmiralPandathe general themes of the Empire just don't work for me
14:04.30Imperioswhich exactly? I'm trying to change them at the moment
14:04.38AdmiralPandamagicophobia
14:04.41ImperiosOr at least alter them slightly
14:04.48ImperiosWell that is limited to the major provinces
14:05.09ImperiosKaracay and Saphronians can do magik just fine
14:05.16ImperiosThough that's why nobody likes them
14:05.18Imperioshur
14:05.25AdmiralPandaprecisely my point
14:05.40AdmiralPandaI'm not saying change it, I'm just saying it doesn't work for me
14:05.52ImperiosYou want to make them mages, right?
14:05.59ImperiosYeah I understand that
14:06.08ImperiosJust checking
14:06.16ImperiosHm
14:06.23Technobliteratorwhy can we not see collapsibles in the preview on this wiki
14:06.24Technobliterator._.
14:06.40ImperiosSpeaking of non-Imperial humans
14:06.46Technobliteratoroh well; http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Technobliterator finally got this fucking thing to work
14:06.51ImperiosI should make the Tropical Land human faction
14:07.01AdmiralPandanot so much that I want to make them mages, more that I want to have a Fey Damsel thing going on
14:07.22AdmiralPandaand that doesn't work if they're anti-magic or at least suspicious of magic users
14:07.34ImperiosAh
14:07.43Imperiosmagik fairies
14:07.49ImperiosHm, that gives me ideas
14:08.05AdmiralPandaI'm just not gonna bother explaining what I mean
14:08.57ImperiosSo, Lady of the Lake Arthurian folklore-ish chars?
14:10.46AdmiralPandaprecisely
14:10.50AdmiralPandanothing to do with fairies at all
14:13.19ImperiosYeah I know, my mistake
14:14.13ImperiosStill thinking
14:15.19ImperiosWhat kind of elements of Arthurian folklore do you want to implement
14:25.12ImperiosOkay guys
14:25.18Imperioshttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140603134952/spore/images/b/b9/Dryadali_Manuscript.jpg So what do you think
14:29.30MonetLooks very mystical somehow
14:30.09MonetI like the organic flowing nature of it. Also i think it vaguely resembles a plant
14:30.33ImperiosAdmiralPanda: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t1.0-9/10406617_633222556753480_2636601290334555397_n.jpg
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14:31.06GhelaeHello.
14:32.13Imperioshttps://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10430887_630785040330565_8045081454164375993_n.jpg I don't get the part about Australia
14:33.00MonetAustralia is the land of barbecues
14:36.43MonetA land where any dispute can be settled by inviting everyone to a BBQ party
14:39.44MonetAnd speaking of tea-time I'm going to go make myself a late lunch
14:42.01AdmiralPandafucking hell, bunch of defeatist idiots just surrendered a game the moment I managed to turn it around
14:42.17Imperioshur
14:42.22AdmiralPandaif we'd kept going we would have won hands down, but noooooo people had to surrender because they lost lane early
14:43.17MonetSorry if my answer was stereotyped. It was a dual combo of knwoing the phrase  "shrimp on the barbie" and recalling a parody of sketch of Neighbours where the entire scene took place around a BBQ.
14:44.57AdmiralPandaMonet: we more settle arguments by drinking
14:45.01AdmiralPandaBBQs need no excuse
14:45.33MonetIt's because it's constantly warm and sunny in Australia isn't it?
14:45.59MonetSo it makes more sense to eat outside
14:46.23AdmiralPandaalso bbq is delicious
14:46.32MonetAye
14:46.51MonetEngland's not so goo for BBQ weather except in the height of summer
14:47.34MonetAnd autumn
14:48.40MonetWinter everyone stays indoors, spring is duck feeding and lambing season combined with lots and lots of rain, early summer you're on the tail end of the spring rains and late autumn everyone's planning what to dress up as for Halloween
14:50.37MonetHow popular is taking your kids to feed the ducks in other countries?
14:50.41ImperiosSo basically Saint-Petersburg
14:51.21ImperiosOur city is so dark and rainy that our architects paint the buildings in bright pastel yellow and white to make it a bit more sunny-looking
14:51.27Imperios*paint buildings
14:52.05Imperioshttp://www.776dorog.ru/images/stories/spb/sp24.jpg A bit like this
14:52.29MonetI don't see much of that in the UK
14:53.13MonetThen again if you lok in the right places, some Victorian and Georgian houses have some very bright render o nthem
14:55.59MonetAnyway I need eats BBL
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15:22.21GhelaeHello.
15:24.20Imperioshttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10290665_625970907478645_3370304264917410615_n.jpg ргк
15:24.23Imperioshur
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15:35.27GD12Hi all
15:36.53GhelaeHello.
15:42.42Imperioshttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/1896855_596457770429959_1315574810_n.jpg
15:59.16ImperiosAdmiralPanda: So how are you going to name your Frenchies?
15:59.26ImperiosI'll mention them on the Koldenwelt language pages
15:59.35AdmiralPandaas in the name of the faction?
15:59.53Imperiosya
16:00.04AdmiralPandaOrder of the Sable Rose
16:00.35Imperiosrite
16:00.39ImperiosAnd the ethnicity's name?
16:01.53AdmiralPandaI have no clue what language root you're using so you figure it out
16:03.39Imperioswait
16:03.43ImperiosI don't follow
16:03.46ImperiosCan you please rephrase that
16:04.18AdmiralPandaI don't know what language you're using to come up with ethnicity names, so you figure out what they should be called
16:04.44Imperiosah, rite
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16:10.04HachimanHey
16:10.19OluapPlayerhai
16:10.27ImperiosHi
16:11.08OluapPlayerSomeone posted this on my Facepunch profile
16:11.13OluapPlayer"lol u think ur tuf? lol pls. i mak sammichs on a daly basis n i dont evn cri when bn whipd."
16:11.30Hachimanolol
16:11.40OluapPlayerI have no idea who this is but it gave me a good chuckle
16:13.40OluapPlayerHachiman AdmiralPanda: http://i.imgur.com/75Ih6xL.jpg "I am both the abyss itself and the flame which lights it."
16:14.08AdmiralPandahur
16:14.15AdmiralPandaalso hai buniman
16:16.14OluapPlayerbah right when I wanted to talk to him
16:19.23AdmiralPandahur me too
16:21.11ImperiosOluapPlayer: I should make an Imperial character that looks like this
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16:32.21dromBehold!
16:34.50OfficerJackalBelated hello!
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16:59.16GD12Hello
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17:01.08GhelaeHello.
17:01.11MonetHello
17:02.39GD12hi
17:13.38ImperiosDammit
17:13.48ImperiosMy father always tells me not to blink for some reason
17:13.51ImperiosHow am I supposed to do that?
17:17.18MonetOnly time I've ever heard someone complain about blinking was when they were completely wankered.
17:17.45MonetSo my understanding is you can't.
17:24.52MonetIts an odd thing to complain about though
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17:42.28OluapPlayerspu
17:43.01Xhou
17:43.10OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_the_Murgur chek and quote
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17:43.30WormyHi
17:43.48Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-akl9x67qk Oluap and Xho
17:43.58XhoGet to :15
17:44.52Wormylol
17:45.17OluapPlayerSeems about right
17:47.19dromOh hai to everyone.
17:49.23XhoOluapPlayer: quoted
17:49.44OluapPlayergut
17:50.23OluapPlayerWragrot - git off ma empire u lunatic
17:51.16XhoNu - U AINT GOT DA MOOVS LIKE JAGGER YA CUNT
17:51.38XhoGreat now I can imagine Nu just singing that song whilst dancing on Wragrot's bed
17:52.37OluapPlayerWragrot - what the fug
17:54.49GD12hi
17:55.15GD12Wormy : you might be interested in this http://www.amazon.com/Theoretical-Physics-Dover-Books/dp/0486652270
17:56.30WormyWow yes
17:56.57WormyI was thinking of getting Gravity by Wheeler and Thorne after I've completed Road to Reality
17:57.06ImperiosMonet: I found a Warhammer 40.000/Polandball crossover
17:57.14MonetOluap: Quoted
17:57.19MonetImperios: Please no...
17:57.29ImperiosIt's actually fairly well-drawn
17:57.40GD12The only math prereqs for the whole book are just basic differential and integral calculus
17:57.45GD12Everything else is self-contained
17:58.30XhoOluapPlayer: So Wragrot leaves the team
17:58.44OluapPlayerYes
17:58.50XhoKilchárunya - RIGHT NOW I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO REASON NOT TO BE NICE ANY MORE
17:58.57OluapPlayerKamaris - shup
17:59.04ImperiosMonet: http://i.imgur.com/SFY6WYm.jpg It's in Russian but the basic idea is that Russia asks the Emperor how to deal with heretics
17:59.11XhoKilchárunya - :c
17:59.49MonetThe Emperor being the USSR, right?
18:00.04GhelHello.
18:00.53ImperiosYep
18:01.16ImperiosThe Imperium is fairly popular in Russia
18:01.35MonetOluapPlayer Xho: Do you two have time today  so we can do that thing we talked about yesterday?
18:01.36ImperiosMostly because it resembles the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire in some ways
18:02.20ImperiosI just realised something.
18:02.24MonetWell yeah, the Russian Empire was one of the Roman imitators.
18:02.29OluapPlayerMonet: Yes
18:02.33ImperiosWe even stole their eagle
18:02.43ImperiosWell we technically have the right for this
18:02.54Xhosur y not
18:03.18ImperiosRussia was friendly with the Byzantine Empire and the Romanov dynasty had some Greek blood
18:03.53MonetSo the Romanov dynasty saw itself as descendants of Constantine?
18:04.25ImperiosActually, wait, pardon, not the Romanov dynasty
18:04.28ImperiosThe one before it
18:04.29MonetOluapPLayer Xho: WHen are you two good?
18:04.37ImperiosThe Rurikovich dynasty
18:04.49OluapPlayerMonet: Now
18:05.11XhoNow
18:05.17MonetSweet
18:05.28ImperiosWhat are you talking bout
18:05.53MonetSeekrit
18:07.00ImperiosLet me guess: Uriel falls in love with Kithworto and then queen Aldaren tries to kill him out of jealously?
18:07.02MonetOluapPlayer Xho: We could go to #sporewiki-rp1
18:07.15OluapPlayerYes
18:08.28MonetImperios: Yes. Uriel leaves Alensia to woo Kithworto and Aldaren chases after him because she wants to cuddle with Uriel at night
18:08.43Imperioshur
18:09.16MonetXho: get in #sporewiki-rp1
18:15.47OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c7KuvpffWs
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18:24.58AngrybirdsThere's a joke among the reddit Wargame community. Apparently the other night they were on TS playing games, and there was this one F-14 Tomcat which had gotten so many kills it had been bumped up to top tier veterancy, which basically means that it was hard-pressed not to miss. That Tomcat caused so much trouble for the Reddit crew that it earned the nickname "Tom Cruiser."
18:25.04AngrybirdsCruise*
18:25.41MonetMaverick!!!
18:27.37AngrybirdsSo when I logged on this afternoon, every single time an F-14 Tomcat came around, they would yell, "TOM CRUISE IS BACK"
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18:28.05DrodoEmpireHey, everybody
18:28.13GhelHello.
18:28.57GD12hi
18:40.57MonetI had an idea for Draconis winemaking: Keeping the wine *very* cool as it matures.
18:41.43Imperioscool wine bro
18:42.06MonetMainly so you can have vintages hundreds of years old
18:42.14ImperiosSo, to preserve it
18:42.20MonetYeah
18:43.02MonetI remember reading that once wine gets past a certain age, it goes from mature to bitter as there's no sugar left.
18:46.00ImperiosWell considering that Dracs live for much longer than humans
18:46.03Imperiositi sunderstandable
18:46.54MonetI suppose one other option is to use a slower-matabolising yeast culture
18:47.53GhelSome microbes that live in extreme low-energy conditions such as under the deep-sea seabed have such slow metabolisms that they don't even seem to be alive.
18:48.17GhelAssuming there are similar species on Alcanti, the Draconis could have done some gene-splicing with them.
18:48.48GhelAnd then keep the wine cold.
18:49.13GhelSo somewhere in Andromeda, there's a wine cellar containing unopened bottles that predate human history.
18:49.17GD12Right I think I'm going to work on some miscellaenous DT things
18:49.24GD12I'll make the new AD MW section on Friday or so
18:49.28MonetGhel: Very likely
18:50.30MonetALso such bottles would require a material that doesn't break down after several millennia
18:50.50GhelI'm sure that can be achieved.
18:51.15GD12I'm also thinking that the advanced Dominatus AIs are aren't entirely synthetic in that they also have parasite/symbiotes attached to them to enhance computing
18:52.01GhelI think for most advanced empires, the distinction between biological and non-biological would disappear in a lot of their technology.
18:52.13GD12makes sense
18:53.21GhelIt's only the fact that the rise of digital computer technology happened some 50 years ago while biotechnology has started its growth spurt much more recently that people tend to think otherwise.
18:53.52GD12yeah makes sense
18:54.21GhelSo if you opened up a Dominatus AI, rather than seeing circuit boards and microchips and other such things we associate with computers, it would be more like a giant superconducting slime mould.
18:54.43GD12yeah makes sense
18:54.58GD12i've always visualized it that way hr
18:55.51MonetI think I've described Di computers as no longer having distinctive circuits, microchips or wiring
18:56.25AdmiralPandaand if you look at an ISF supercomputer you see a whole lot of nothing, since the data is stored as charged particles
18:56.44MonetHolographic storage ftw
18:56.45AdmiralPandaor more accurately, the individual charges on particles
18:56.51OluapPlayerHipsters all of you
18:56.59MonetY we hipsters?
18:57.18OluapPlayerAll of yours "nu circuit boards and microchips"
18:57.26Monet40 years ago computers had pipes tubes and valves.
18:57.37OluapPlayerbak in my day we had tubes and we like dat
18:57.57GhelIndoc computers are all still vacuum tubes. Oluap's a traditionalist like that.
18:57.59MonetEven though the computer was the size of your bedroom?
18:58.02AdmiralPandabut are we hipsters when everyone does it?
18:58.05GD12I think i'll use topolgical quantum computing for this hur
18:58.10AdmiralPandaI mean that kinda makes us pretty mainstream
18:58.33AdmiralPandain fact, I think that makes YOU the hipster Oluap :P
18:58.42OluapPlayerGo back to your den you stinky entity
18:59.01GhelNah, we're the hipsters. Because being non-mainstream is just too mainstream nowadays.
18:59.09Imperioshur
18:59.29ImperiosI imagined Radeon computers to be made of solidifed energy/light
19:00.06MonetRadeon - Our computers are so advanced we don't need heavy matter casings
19:00.20ImperiosWith keyboards, monitors, and other external parts emitted holographically
19:00.34GhelWhenever anybody describes something as being "made of energy" or "made of light", my mind automatically translates it to what they usually really mean, which is "made of indeterminate glowy stuff". :P
19:00.43ImperiosGhel: Well, holograms
19:01.20ImperiosActually, that's how I can imagine it: a small, flying ball of black plastic-like substance that emits three-dimensional holographic images in response to its user's mental commands
19:01.38XhoCan holograms actually simulate sensors so that they emulate screens and keyboards though
19:01.50ImperiosRadeons can do lots of shit with their holograms
19:02.01GD12yes probably in the 29th century holograms can give tacile feed back
19:02.12GhelYou'd need something physical as a basis, like the aforementioned flying ball of stuff.
19:02.14ImperiosSince they are a telepathic race I can imagine that their computers would send messages to their brains directly
19:02.24ImperiosGhel: Yes, of course
19:02.30OluapPlayer2much science
19:02.33ImperiosThe ball's internal structure being similar to that of a living being, but made of nanomachines
19:02.35Imperiosson
19:02.43OluapPlayerI just say there are computers, I don't specify which
19:02.49GhelAh, so another superconducting slime mould.
19:02.55ImperiosNot smile
19:02.55AdmiralPandathe ISF are all cyborgs so the machines do literally send messages directly to their brains
19:02.57Imperios*slime
19:03.13AdmiralPandalots of Doc Ock going on
19:03.29ImperiosIt would still be technological in appearance but modelled after biological structure
19:03.31Imperioss
19:03.37ImperiosI am not sure how Artharon computers would look like though
19:03.48MonetTheian Computers project the interface directly into your brain and you only need ot think to manipulate the console
19:04.16GD12well ive been inspired so im making a computer section in the dominatus technology page hur
19:04.51ImperiosActually, given how most Artharon technology until recently was archaeotech
19:05.23ImperiosI can imagine them chanting something or saying a prayer to activate them
19:06.18ImperiosTertanai computers would probably be more conventional, though I imagine they would also possess a certain level of intelligence
19:06.28ImperiosThe Tertanai are the Tertamians' direct descendants
19:06.37GhelOne possibility for the ultimate computer would be to use the surface of a black hole to store and process information. There is a slight problem with this in that any black hole big enough to manipulate (what with the uncertainty principle getting in the way) might be too heavy to be contained, even kept in a structure on a planet.
19:06.37ImperiosAnd we all know how many AIs they made
19:06.56GD12here we go
19:07.00ImperiosGhel: Isn't that the basic premise behind the Meta-Emperor?
19:07.12GD12Dominatus computers are without exception topological quantum computers and as such employ two dimensional quasiparticles called anyons, whose world lines cross over to form braids which then form the basis of the logic circuits of these computers. These are based on a substance called Standard Computing Material, an optimized computing substrate made of exceedingly small superconducting circuits subjected to extreme electromagnetic
19:07.21GD12anner. The artificial intelligences of these computers operate on hyper-advanced machine learning, artificial intelligence, and artificial intelligence algorithms such as a variant of quantum neural networks which enable them to learn very quickly. Models are protected from outside cryptographic attempts at hacking through a quantum key distributed one time pad which is information theoretically proven to have perfect secrecy. These
19:07.23GhelYes, as an example of a very big black hole being used as a computer.
19:07.29GD12ed to synthetically created parasitic organisms which are genetically encoded to follow the demands of the Dominatus and which bond with the Standard Computing Material.
19:07.34GD12thats it hur
19:07.54GhelThat cut off for me after "electromagnetic" in the first line and "secrecy. These" on the second.
19:08.15AdmiralPandaXho: I'm beginning to understand why the only thing you're afraid of is science
19:08.34GD12irc automatically cuts it off
19:08.41GhelI know why it happens. :P
19:08.47GD12yeah hur
19:08.55GhelThe SporeWikiverse does have plenty of ways around the problem of black holes being too heavy: you could use basement universes (i.e. store your computer inside a TARDIS), or have it orbiting a star and have the data transmitted superluminally. Then anybody can use them.
19:09.32Gheljust reads GD12's edit on the Tyranny's tech page instead
19:09.43GD12aye hur
19:10.04GD12I think i;ll be updating that page quiate a bit
19:10.09GD12since msot of it hasnt been touched for a while
19:13.17ImperiosGhel: Now imagine what would happen to Koldenwelt and its peoples in a few centuries, and what computers would THEY develop.
19:13.17GD12I might as well also write up their R&D process
19:13.30GhelMagic computers!
19:14.07GhelIf the Source doesn't have to obey quantum mechanics, then there might be no limits on what such computers could do.
19:14.51OluapPlayerXitannoth achieves his dream of becoming the first internet troll
19:14.59GD12hur
19:15.49GhelObviously Klaxxa computers come first, with a steampunk style based on some alchemical equivalent of electricity.
19:16.20GhelFor that matter, besides lightning, has it even been established that electricity and magnetism exist within the fantasyverse?
19:16.40ImperiosWell
19:16.43ImperiosWe have lightning
19:16.59GD12You'd probably want to ask Xho if he wants to add more science to the scifi verse hur
19:17.01GD12i mean
19:17.06GD12science to the fantasyverse
19:17.19XhoWell
19:17.23OluapPlayerNo hur
19:17.25ImperiosI actually thought of making a story set in the far future of the Fantasyverse
19:17.33XhoIt is a possibility that the Phoenixes had some kind of computer
19:17.39XhoAt least, a magical analogue to it
19:17.41ImperiosIt was a joke hur
19:17.50ImperiosXho: We should make a Phoenix AI hur
19:18.19ImperiosThough techy/magitechy stuff was mostly used by the Ordnung of all precursor species
19:18.20XhoQuite possibly to define their means of transuniversal travel or something
19:18.31ImperiosXho: don't take the idea seriously hur
19:18.40XhoHell I'm leaving it open
19:18.54ImperiosAnyway i thought of making a story set in the far future of the Fantasyverse, but I'd like to have the Civverse develop more
19:19.04ImperiosSo I could have the two verses collide
19:19.12ImperiosActually I have the plot already
19:19.12GhelYou did make a fiction set in the far future of Koldenwelt, if not a story to go with it: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ar-Klith_Civilisation
19:19.16ImperiosOh, yes
19:19.24ImperiosI need to delete dis
19:19.33XhoCaligaduro - BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW                                                  Antares - business merger                          Caligaduro - u got references
19:19.40GhelShall I delete it now?
19:19.44Imperiosya
19:20.06GhelDone.
19:21.24GhelThinking about it, Storm Drakes are arguably the dragons of electricity (because of lightning), so it is represented as an element.
19:21.24Imperios1000 years into the future -> the Sovereign and the Empire merged into one species -> so did the Kelodhros -> Caligaduro raped Koldenwelt and its people escaped it -> Dragons and Human/Elf alliance fight over a habitable planet -> then suddenly a fleet from the Civverse appears and they band together -> they fight
19:21.58ImperiosThen out of nowhere a group of Fictionverse explorers appears and notes that their experiment with creating magic has gone awry :P
19:22.33XhoCaligaduro - and wat about me u fgts
19:22.49ImperiosHe is left on Koldenwelt completely alone hur
19:22.55MonetPlot twist: Caligaduro was made by UTs
19:23.06XhoCaligaduro - well time to go rape the other universes then
19:23.26WormyI Man I missed the ultimate computer conversation
19:23.45ImperiosThe main protagonist would be Javina's distant descendant
19:23.57XhoI dunno, I never liked the idea of the Fantasyverse being in the same continuity as the primeverse
19:24.14XhoToo much conflict going on between Caligaduro and the Xhodocto at that level
19:24.32OluapPlayerI don't enjoy any crossovers between any of the universes
19:24.54ImperiosI never said that story would be canon hur
19:25.00WormyGD12, Ghel:  Malament-Hogarth spacetime around a rotating black hole might allow for hypercomputations, and I read that in far future, if either dark energy or gravitational collapse is harnessed computationally, and infinite amount of processes in a finite amount of time could be made
19:25.15OluapPlayerI don't care if it's non-canon
19:25.26GD12i c
19:25.29XhoNon canon crossovers are alright
19:25.36XhoAnything's alright if its non canon hur
19:25.40ImperiosThen again, I am not sure how Javina would even leave descendants...
19:25.51XhoPelagrios - yo
19:25.58ImperiosI mean. there is one problem with her having kids
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19:30.46dinohello all!
19:30.58GD12hi
19:31.34GhelHello.
19:32.30WormyMy DCP tech might start following the physical constraints window idea
19:32.42GD12Wormy : Do you ind if i use the DCP technology layout for the Tyranny page since I like the way it's organized?
19:32.50GD12*tyranny technology layout
19:32.54WormyYeah you can
19:33.23WormyHence the imp they used in the lab wasn't based on normal spacetime
19:33.37WormyActually, nor was Alice in the paper I recsall
19:36.12GhelWormy: Using time effects to perform hypercomputation looks like an option (like sending a computer back in time and then picking up the results after so many billions of years, then sending it back around the loop indefinitely until the answer is achieved), but wouldn't the finite lifetime of whatever the computer's made of be a problem?
19:36.35GhelIf you do use a computer that could literally last forever, there's obviously no problem.
19:36.55GD12thanks wormy
19:36.56WormyIs that for Malament-Hogath spacetime or the latter suggestion?
19:38.35WormyWell, from what I remember, the latter suggestion does have a finite existence, but the computations subjectively sort of become infinite at the last moment
19:39.52GhelFor the Malament-Hogarth spacetime in particular.
19:40.16GhelI've been busy with getting ready for an exam tomorrow, so I can get a bit behind in the conversation.
19:41.29WormyIt is okay
19:42.00OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/tg/1401733894525.jpg have a lil real dragon
19:42.10Imperiosawwww
19:42.22MonetSo cute!
19:42.23ImperiosXho: Hm
19:42.44ImperiosCan you give me the original Fantasyverse word for "human"
19:43.02XhoWell
19:43.13XhoI dunno if the Phoenixes ever used that word
19:43.36XhoThey tended to generalise every mortal race as 'Kratadethnamvara'
19:43.44WormyGhel:  You reminded me of this a little http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-time_crystal
19:44.17Imperiosьур Шэдд ерштл ща ыщьуерштп ьныуда
19:44.22ImperiosMeh I'll think of something myself
19:44.37ImperiosActually let me see what I just typed
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19:44.47The_RandomnessHello everyone
19:44.52GhelHello.
19:45.01Imperios'ur shedd ershtl scha ysch'uershtp 'nyuda
19:45.24ImperiosSomehow when you accidentally write something in English using Russian keys
19:45.36ImperiosYou end up with something terribly Lovecraftian hur
19:45.54OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/tg/1401736526804.jpg baby dragons need their vitamins
19:46.16Xhohur
19:47.19The_RandomnessAdmiralPanda: ermegerd Diana mid is amazing
19:48.41OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/tg/1401749434278.jpg Now I can picture Erylia Elves fighting Fire Drakes
19:49.32MonetYou're showing these and I just posted a dragon picture on DA
19:49.43OluapPlayerDidn't notice it
19:49.45MonetSyNcHrOnIcItY?
19:49.50OluapPlayerhur
19:49.51Monethttp://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/Emberlathir-Dragon-Form-458338641
19:50.04OluapPlayerI'm not posting every single picture I'm coming across
19:50.09OluapPlayerBut I'm coming across some really good dragon pics
19:50.54The_RandomnessMonet: You're so good at drawing D:
19:51.33The_RandomnessEspecially compared to me, I suck at drawing.
19:51.45OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/tg/1401736172826.jpg the girl of Monet's dreams
19:51.55The_Randomnesshue
19:52.00MonetMy advice is time, patience, repetition and lots of photoreferencing
19:52.14ImperiosXho: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140603134952/spore/images/b/b9/Dryadali_Manuscript.jpg seen this?
19:52.22XhoYeah
19:52.46MonetOluapPlayer: Almost
19:53.02MonetWhen I look at her I think "scorpion"
19:53.13Imperioshttp://vk.com/doc49656023_193561091?hash=7507fe0ecbe31acc81&dl=a23e4a67c1d372c959&wnd=1 I showed the baby dragon to Alyona and she responded with this
19:53.13The_RandomnessThere's too many things I want to get good at qq
19:53.34OluapPlayerIt's based off this http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140106095722/monsterhunter/images/f/f6/MH4-Pink_Rathian_Render_001.png
19:54.25MonetImperios: Alonya's a dragon-lover too
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19:55.10GD12bbl
19:55.10DrodoEmpireBack. :P
19:55.49OluapPlayerMonster Hunter is full of dragons and wyverns
19:56.16MonetI've played it
19:56.30OluapPlayerorly
19:56.34OluapPlayeri jelly then
19:56.37OluapPlayerI want to try it out
19:57.02MonetI've played I and III
20:00.12OluapPlayerI want to 3DS so I can get 4U next year
20:00.33The_Randomness4U?
20:00.33OluapPlayerTried playing III on an emulator but the controls aren't compatible with a keyboard
20:00.42OluapPlayerMonster Hunter 4 Ultimate
20:00.46The_RandomnessAh
20:00.47dinowhoops, gotta go again
20:00.48dinobyeQ
20:02.18OluapPlayerbrb
20:02.26The_RandomnessBye dino
20:05.07Technobliteratorholy shit, people are using my rp1 channel :o
20:09.49OluapPlayerback
20:28.07TechnobliteratorI just want a 3DS for Bravely Default
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20:28.57HachimanHai
20:29.01The_RandomnessHey
20:29.03AdmiralPandahai u
20:29.14AdmiralPandaTechnobliterator: gotta say, Bravely Default is a weird name
20:29.15OluapPlayerlazi fuk
20:29.22TechnobliteratorI agree
20:29.25Technobliteratorbut japanese devs
20:29.36AdmiralPandaI'm sure the name is much better in Japanese
20:30.00Technobliteratormost definitely
20:30.02HachimanThat's the case with Shingeki
20:30.07HachimanAttack on Titan makes almost no sense
20:30.22HachimanShingeki no Kyojin means "Advancing Giants"
20:30.29Technobliteratorthe problem is, on the FFWiki, we have "code" names on the different games. our code name for Bravely Default is "BravelyD"...yeah.
20:30.56The_Randomnessoh gosh
20:31.01The_RandomnessWHAT HAVE YOU DONE
20:31.08BravelyDYou made me
20:31.09Technobliteratoryeah.
20:31.10BravelyDConfident
20:31.55OluapPlayerboooooooo
20:31.59OluapPlayerGet off the stage
20:33.29AdmiralPandaHachiman: Attack on Titan makes perfect sense if you're launching an assault on one of Saturn's moons, but in context it's pretty silly
20:33.45The_RandomnessIt's pretty cold on Titan though hur
20:34.10OluapPlayerIt has a certain charm though
20:34.16OluapPlayerI wouldn't like it any different
20:34.44BravelyDI just refer to it as Shingeki cuz elitism hur
20:34.47ImperiosHi Hachi
20:34.51ImperiosWait
20:34.53ImperiosBravelyD
20:34.54Imperioshur
20:35.05OluapPlayerChange your name back pls
20:35.12AdmiralPandaI like it the way it is
20:35.30OluapPlayergud
20:35.30ImperiosHachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Dryadali_Manuscript.jpg look what I made
20:35.43AdmiralPandatrust the woman on the IRC to make a courageous phallus
20:35.47AdmiralPanda:P
20:36.07HachimanImperios: Nice
20:36.14ImperiosYou said we should go for something Asian for the elves so I based this on Mongol writing
20:37.21Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Languages Also I expanded this page
20:37.56WormyI've had one of those bad days again
20:38.04WormyWhyen badness builds upon badness
20:38.22The_RandomnessReplace bad with lazy there and you have me
20:38.35HachimanBadness turns to sadness, sadness leads to anger, anger leads... to hate.
20:38.56ImperiosThe Hachiman Side will set you free.
20:39.04AdmiralPandaand then duality says you'll have a really good time later in life
20:39.06TechnobliteratorI HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE YOU!!!!!!
20:39.13ImperiosTechnolazzo
20:39.14The_Randomnesslol
20:39.16AdmiralPandawoah what?
20:39.18Wormy_awawhat have I donre???
20:39.21Technobliteratorit's a kefka quote
20:39.22Technobliterator:D
20:39.22AdmiralPandawhat happened Techno?
20:39.24The_Randomness^
20:39.25Wormy_awaI've spread the badness
20:39.31The_RandomnessShe was channeling Kefka there
20:39.33The_RandomnessFrom FFVI
20:39.34AdmiralPandadon't give me a heart attack like that woman
20:39.35ImperiosMy day was bad to begin with hur
20:39.41Technobliteratoralong with "Son of a submariner! You'll pay for this!"
20:39.49OluapPlayerI both hate and love many people here
20:39.54OluapPlayerHachi specially
20:39.59Technobliteratorbut youi obviously love me the most
20:39.59AdmiralPandaI hate and love you too Oluap
20:40.05Technobliteratorcuz im the best
20:40.11OluapPlayerNo I love Xho the most
20:40.23TechnobliteratorD:
20:40.32The_Randomnessrekt
20:40.34ImperiosI late you all
20:40.35Wormy_awaI hate and love everything
20:40.40ImperiosThough honestly
20:40.46ImperiosI think the majority of the IRC hates me :<
20:40.57ImperiosOr at least dislikes me a bit
20:40.59The_Randomnesssrs
20:41.07GhelNo, you just have low self-esteem.
20:41.10Wormy_awa^
20:41.11HachimanProceed to wrist slashing
20:41.20OluapPlayerslashes Hachiman's wrists
20:41.26Hachimanyeh
20:41.28Technobliteratoryour self esteem is very low, imp
20:41.28ImperiosHachiman: imma slash ur wrists
20:41.34Technobliteratorand you take things too seriously
20:41.35Wormy_awaIf we lost you Imperios, the wiki would feel incomplete
20:41.35OluapPlayeru didnt specify whose dere
20:41.36HachimanJoke's on you, I like the taste of blood
20:41.46GhelSlashing other people's wrists always makes you feel better.
20:41.48Technobliteratoragreed with wormy
20:41.50OluapPlayerJokes on you I'm not letting you drink it
20:41.53AdmiralPandaexsanguinates himself into a glass for Hachiman
20:41.55Hachimanfuk
20:42.02Imperiosfeeds Hachi Jo's menstrual blood
20:42.13Technobliteratoruhhhhhm
20:42.13OluapPlayerWoah
20:42.15AdmiralPandaok
20:42.17The_RandomnessWell that escalated quickly
20:42.19AdmiralPandaa little too far
20:42.20AdmiralPandajust a little
20:42.20Wormy_awaShit got real
20:42.22OluapPlayerGoing too far there
20:42.23XhoAaaaaaaaaand
20:42.23Hachiman:|
20:42.26XhoBack to the rp
20:42.37HachimanThere's two kinds of blood
20:42.42HachimanI only like drinking one of those
20:42.49XhoWell get to it then
20:42.57ImperiosHachiman: Imagine a Khorne Berzerker on his gf's period
20:42.58OluapPlayerdik isn't a blood type
20:43.08HachimanImperios: Heard this joke hur
20:43.08The_Randomnesslel
20:43.08WormyAh the shits and giggles here have cherered me up
20:43.16XhoIt is when you're a complete douchebag though ur
20:43.17Imperiosditto
20:43.18Xho*hur
20:43.25ImperiosI feel myself a bit less worthless now hur
20:43.25OluapPlayerStop talking about period blood already that's fucking disgusting
20:43.27Imperios*feel a bit
20:43.47HachimanI just get reminded of the naked Brian incident hur
20:43.54AdmiralPandathe what
20:43.59XhoAll this talking about blood makes me hungry
20:44.00AdmiralPandaactually, don't tell me
20:44.00OluapPlayerThat's also fucking disgusting
20:44.05AdmiralPandait's probably better I don't know
20:44.07ImperiosI read that as "blood mages"
20:44.09OluapPlayerIt is
20:44.13ImperiosSuddenly Xho is from Dragon Age
20:44.14WormyI didn't know period blood was different to normal blood
20:44.14TechnobliteratorGUYS
20:44.20TechnobliteratorUHM
20:44.26WormyLearn a new thing everyday
20:44.29TechnobliteratorWHO HAS A CONVERSATION TOPIC DIFFERENT TO THIS ONE
20:44.34ImperiosI do
20:44.37TechnobliteratorOOH OOH I DO
20:44.38OluapPlayerStop talking in all caps
20:44.40WormyBiology isn't my fortay
20:44.45The_RandomnessCAPS IS OBLIGATORY NOW
20:44.49Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Languages LOOK GUYS I EXPANDED ON THAT PAGE
20:44.51ImperiosTAKE A LOOK
20:44.52TechnobliteratorTHE ONLY KING THAT MATTERS
20:45.02OluapPlayerWhy are you all being so annoying suddenly
20:45.11AdmiralPanda:(
20:45.12The_RandomnessBecause we enjoy annoying you
20:45.27XhoI speak two languages and understand eight
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20:45.30Technobliteratoraw, imperios, why didn't you use the right table class q_q
20:45.30XhoI don't get this chat
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20:45.43XhoThis is how bad this chat is
20:45.45Wormyhi
20:45.50GhelHello.
20:45.54AdmiralPandaXho: I don't think anyone gets what's going on here
20:46.02The_RandomnessHey Liquid
20:46.03XhoWell maybe not eight
20:46.04XhoLemme think
20:46.31OluapPlayerquit ur dickwavin
20:46.35Hachimannoh
20:46.46Technobliterator._.
20:46.48OluapPlayerShut up you piece of poopy go finish paegs
20:47.05Xho"Shut up, you piece of poopy." - OluapPlayer, 2014
20:47.18OluapPlayeryes I just said that are you blind
20:47.21XhoYes
20:47.33XhoYes I am blind
20:49.03HachimanAt least you're not Oberyn Martell blind
20:49.11Wormyooh
20:49.20Xhoouch
20:50.51XhoI guess now his daughters can really call him "Pop"
20:51.14The_Randomness-1/10
20:51.30Hachimanohgod
20:51.33The_RandomnessThat's anti-funny
20:51.44XhoEye can't believe this!
20:52.31XhoYou can see Tyrion's face before Oberyn gets flattened
20:52.40XhoIt's like "OH GOD WHAT ARE YOU DOING KILL HIM NOW"
20:53.13OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/tg/1401811345378.png
20:53.21XhoI dunno whether's it me
20:53.32XhoBut it gets funnier the more you watch it
20:53.49WormyYou would like Braindead
20:53.55Hachimanohgod Braindead
20:54.00WormyThe film is so gory it is hilarious
20:54.18HachimanTo be fair Braindead's intended to be funny
20:54.30Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQbANmJGoWM If you want to watch the scene here you go
20:54.32XhoI'll say now
20:54.36XhoIt's definitely an 18 +
20:54.50WormyXho  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOUwnNVlgWk
20:54.54XhoGore aside it's just psychologically daunting
20:55.15The_RandomnessXho: Just thinking about it squicks me out
20:55.22The_RandomnessI don't even want to see the real thing
20:55.32XhoWait you haven't even seen it
20:56.08The_RandomnessYes, I haven't.
20:56.18XhoWell
20:56.29XhoIt's not nice
20:56.33The_Randomnessorly
20:56.41The_RandomnessSomebody's head gets bashed in, sounds pleasant
20:56.43The_Randomnessamirite
20:56.50XhoWell it's worse than that
20:57.00JepardiThe head explodes
20:57.05Technobliteratorwow
20:57.08XhoGouges his eyes -> Crushes skull between hands
20:57.14Technobliteratorit's been, like weeks since I've edited the Cleansing Flames?
20:57.25Technobliteratorlike, I haven't made any progress on it :|
20:57.33The_RandomnessOk, I don't want to hear any more now
20:57.38The_Randomness._.
20:57.55OluapPlayerThe last edit was at May 1
20:57.57Technobliteratoroh
20:57.58Xho"I KILLED HER CHILDREN. AND I RAPED HER. THEN I SMASHED HER HEAD...IN LIKE THIS"
20:57.58OluapPlayerSo it's been a month
20:58.07Technobliteratorworse than I thought
20:58.11The_Randomnessdats nasty
20:58.14Technobliteratorwell, I will resume it, if people are still interested?
20:59.48MonetXho: I remember that Khan killed a guy by crushing his head inwards in Star Trek: Into Darkness
20:59.57AdmiralPandabbl
21:00.02XhoYeah
21:00.03The_RandomnessBye Panda
21:00.06Xho"YOU SHOULD HAVE LET ME SLEEP"
21:00.07Xhosmash
21:00.35Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-gkvrkvH_Q Here it is
21:01.15The_RandomnessAnd thanks to his amazing Augment DNA, his hands stay clean
21:01.35Xholuvli
21:02.34Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aBKe11z_460s_v2.jpg
21:02.53The_RandomnessI'm out, see you guys later
21:03.15XhoJepardi: Now that's scumbag if I ever saw it
21:03.46XhoNow I wonder how much pressure you'd have to apply to a human skull to do that to someone
21:03.54XhoNo I am not going to crush someone's skull
21:04.02XhoAlthough it would be a good party trick
21:04.26OluapPlayerXho the Skull-Crushing Clown
21:04.52GhelWell if you don't want to do the maths of calculating compressive stress over a human skull, you're going to have to experiment.
21:05.57WormyI think Shaolin can
21:06.35HachimanI know one guy who can
21:07.04Hachimanhttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090101150130/hokuto/images/a/a3/Kenshiro_2.jpg
21:07.16OluapPlayerThat's not a real person
21:07.24WormyThere are martial arts moves design to rip out throats, press fingers into the brain and the like
21:07.42WormyAnd I reckon a strongman could cave in someones skull
21:08.29WormyThis needs experiment
21:08.52MonetHachiman: TBF that guy can make peoples' entire bodies explode though numerous pokes in the rightp laces
21:11.40WormyAnyone seen Elysium?
21:12.17WormyThere were these explosive drones that seek out people and stick to their bodies before detonating
21:12.33WormyI'm surprised they don't exist already hur
21:13.25WormyBy sticking they embedded themselves into the flesh of their targwt
21:15.03XhoImpyDroid: Where do I put Phoenix/Black Sun/Protodynastic on that there page
21:18.24MonetWormy: I've seen it
21:18.54WormyThe technolog doesn't seem too far out of our standards
21:18.58WormyThe drones
21:19.11WormyI wouldn't be surprised if they get invented
21:19.42WormyAfterall, bullets that seek their target have
21:25.31ImpyDroidXho: On top
21:25.54GhelI'm going to go now. Bye!
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21:39.52HachimanHmm
21:40.01HachimanI wonder what happens when humans and halflings have kids
21:40.10OluapPlayerWhat's a halfling
21:40.40HachimanSmall people, who are like half the size of a human
21:40.52OluapPlayerIsn't that a dwarf?
21:41.06HachimanHalflings aren't as sturdy or muscular as dwarves
21:41.09ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: Hobbits
21:41.13HachimanHobbitses
21:41.18OluapPlayerAh
21:41.19ImpyDroidGnomes
21:41.25OluapPlayerWell
21:41.31HachimanGnomes and halflings are different
21:41.36ImpyDroidHachiman: What happens?
21:41.38OluapPlayerI can see the kid looking really grotesque
21:41.40ImpyDroidPedo happens hur
21:42.08HachimanIf half-elves can look pretty I can't see why half-haflings can't hur
21:42.31OluapPlayerYeah but humans and elves don't have a large size difference
21:42.57MonetHalflings in D&D don't have super-hairy feet
21:43.21OluapPlayerI also don't see this being comfortable for the halfling regardless if they are the receiving or givign end
21:43.32Hachimanhttp://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1367/55/1367555993972.jpg Actually
21:44.08OluapPlayerespecially receiving
21:44.20MonetAh
21:44.42OluapPlayerrite time for college
21:44.43OluapPlayerbai
21:44.44MonetALso that's one tall elf
21:45.07HachimanElves usually are tall u dingus
21:45.08Hachimanbai oluap
21:45.16Hachimanhttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110714202952/lotr/images/b/b4/The-Hobbit-Fili-and-Kili.jpg Also, attractive dwarves
21:45.49ImpyDroidWHAT
21:45.55ImpyDroidWHAAAAAAAT
21:46.34ImpyDroidHWÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆT
21:46.49ImpyDroidThey look stupid
21:47.01HachimanHow
21:47.12HachimanDwarves don't all have to be beards
21:48.22WormyNot seen the Hobbit films have you?
21:48.26Liquid_InkDwarves are often portrayed as being technologically advanced, so it's a decent assumption that they have invented razors for shaving purposes.
21:48.43Wormyhttp://www.filmoria.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/The-Hobbit-Dwarf-Poster.jpg
21:49.08WormyThey look Dwarven to me
21:49.24HachimanNearly all of those Dwarves look fucking stupid
21:49.32ImpyDroidHachiman: Yes BUT these look just like humans woth dwarfism
21:49.59ImpyDroidThey need dwarven facial features
21:50.17WormyThe Hobbit films were way better than the LoTR trilogy
21:50.45Wormyfunnier
21:50.52Wormybetter scebery
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21:51.00Hachiman_Fuck
21:51.17Wormywb
21:51.53Hachiman_ImpyDroid: Fili and Kili are short, stout, and sturdy, as most dwarves are
21:52.18ImpyDroidthey need more dwarven facial features
21:54.04Hachiman_If humans can look so vastly different, can't see why dwarves can't
21:54.41XhoDwalin's still my favourite though
21:55.17Wormyyeah i was thinking that
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22:29.18Technobliteratortime up
22:29.18Technobliteratorbyes
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22:38.25TekDroidHello
22:41.17TekDroidI'm watching the provincial leaders debate. The Premier is doing a blatant job at dodging questions. XD
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22:45.04OfficerJackalHello!
22:46.03TekDroidHello
22:52.54MonetLol.
22:53.24MonetPlaying Tropico and several rebels jsut fled my island after "apparently" seeing La Chupacabra
22:54.44MonetMy defence minister assured everyone that La Chupacabra will only attack my enemies. oddly though, apparently "something" was seen leaving the defence minister's house the other night.
22:55.00TekDroidlop
22:55.03TekDroid*lol.
22:55.40Hachiman_I call werewolf shenanigans
22:58.06MonetI suppose we'll never really know...
23:01.04MonetAnd that last rebel has just decided to attack one of my farms
23:01.39Hachiman_http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/134/2/4/signs_by_katachan-d659wzn.jpg Found this in the DDs
23:02.00MonetGame mechanics mean that he has to kill all my soldiers before he can destroy the building. It's him vs my army of 14 soldiers
23:04.34MonetAand he's dead
23:08.43MonetI suppose credit should be given to him, being brave enough to stay on an island haunted by the Chupacabra while all his rebel mates decided ot run away
23:20.30MonetMy swiss bank account in Tropico 4's campaign is valued at over $2.03m
23:20.30Monet:richasshit:
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23:21.13TekDroidSo this whole debare is basically the party leaders asking the Premier a question, and having her go off on without ever answering the question or explaining the details of her policies. XD
23:21.41MonetTypical
23:23.47TekDroidAnd these questions like why they were part of a billion dollar scandal, how they plan to eliminate a $10 billion defecit, etc. XD
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23:37.13MonetIt's 00:37 where I am
23:37.33MonetI am now 22
23:37.57TekDroidHappy birthday Monet!
23:38.51Hachiman_Happy birthday!
23:44.38MonetThanks :)
23:45.27OfficerJackalHappy birthday! :D
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23:46.14AdmiralPandahai all
23:46.26TekDroidHey AP
23:46.40MonetHallo
23:46.56WormyHappy birthday Monet!
23:47.09WormySorry I was ranting to you on the eve of your birthday
23:47.36MonetMy latest picture on DA has been well recieved so its all good
23:50.05WormyBye, enjoy your birthday

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