IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140530

00:00.02DrodoEmpireSee my point now, Hachi?
00:00.16Hachiman_I still disagree
00:00.37DrodoEmpireI'm not asking you to agree, I'm asking you to understand and stop saying "they're wrong cuz guns"
00:00.38AdmiralPandaAustralia did a pretty good job of cutting gun crimes
00:00.45MonetDrodoEmpire: Well....What if the person goes on an all-night bender and sees their gun on the table or something?
00:00.46AdmiralPandawe paid people to hand in their guns and destroyed them
00:01.15Hachiman_Guns for higher-end law enforcement operatives I can agree with, guns for civilian use at all is a complete no-no
00:01.17AdmiralPandathat and we've outright banned all firearms except for those who use them professionally
00:01.56Hachiman_All it takes is a drunken night or a heated argument in order to end in a gun murder
00:02.03DrodoEmpireI think in self-defence, people should be allowed to carry weapons; If not a firearm, then definately a club or a knife or a sword
00:02.04DrodoEmpireNo...
00:02.11DrodoEmpireThat almost never happens
00:02.11WormyWatchDogeTbh, wants the point in allowing people to carry firearms in self-defense.  No rigorous testing is going to stop gun crime completely, or the weapon from being stolen.  So gun crime would increase compared to what we have now.
00:02.39DrodoEmpireIt won't stop it completely, but expecting 100% effectiveness from anything is ridiculous.
00:02.41WormyWatchDogeIt seems almost regressive for the UK to go back on the law
00:02.46Hachiman_DrodoEmpire: That almost never happens *over there*
00:02.55Hachiman_Over here, crimes that occur after drunken stands and such happen a lot
00:03.08DrodoEmpireIt wouldn't rise, it would decrease because people would know how to responsibly use them
00:03.19Hachiman_Yeah no, I disagree
00:03.23DrodoEmpireI don't know the situation in the UK, and maybe you're right over there.
00:03.34AdmiralPandaDrodo: I can tell you from Australian history, but yeah that's not how it works
00:03.34DrodoEmpireAs in, on your little corner of the world.
00:03.47Hachiman_I can understand what you're saying, and as good and idealistic as it is, it just doesn't work when put in practice
00:03.50WormyWatchDogeQuite serious really, people like chavs aren't going to care
00:03.58AdmiralPandayou increase the number of firearms on the streets, you increase the potential for criminals to get a hold of them
00:04.06DrodoEmpireFine, then I'm an idiot; I apologize that I researched on the subject.
00:04.08WormyWatchDogeAye
00:04.10DrodoEmpireI'll shut up now.
00:04.10AdmiralPandahence why Australia broke out the buzz saws
00:04.40Hachiman_You can apply the logic of licensed guns to cars; even people with driving licenses still manage to break the law, whether it be intentional or not
00:04.48AdmiralPandaHachi's a stubborn dick and you don't get the situation in other countries, end of story
00:05.04DrodoEmpireAnd I don't get the situation in other countries, you're right
00:05.09Hachiman_Wow thanks
00:05.14WormyWatchDogeI agree with one thing though Drodo, I believe in self-defense
00:05.20MonetBritain has entire streets and districts filled with low-income families and a youth gang culture
00:05.27WormyWatchDoge^
00:05.32WormyWatchDogeCommon as well
00:05.43DrodoEmpireI'm just saying that in some, its a good idea; Obviously not in Britain, I suppose
00:06.11MonetUrban britain has gone down the shitter.
00:06.22DrodoEmpireAnd Hachi, I'll be honest, you are incredibly stubborn. :L No offence, but its true
00:06.33MonetAfter all, in the 80s we had skinheads, in the 90s and 2000s we have chavs
00:06.38DrodoEmpireRight.
00:07.56WormyWatchDogehttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/26/article-0-0028737800000258-683_468x276.jpg
00:09.36The_Randomnessis back
00:10.26The_RandomnessI see a contentious topic was brought up.
00:10.48DrodoEmpireWas, yeah
00:10.56WormyWatchDogeI question whether people in the US should even own firearms as they are allowed to, given all these school attacks.  Though the media is a powerful story-telling tool, and in reality, such people may resort to other weapons.  Though a gun is a gun at the end of day and kills more people and more quickly than a knife
00:11.07The_Randomness^
00:11.31DrodoEmpireI just think there should be regulation, but not outright banning.
00:11.34WormyWatchDogeWe do not live in the safest times anyway
00:11.35The_RandomnessGuns have no place in civilized society, other than to go out and shoot fluffy animals
00:11.36Hachiman_Well even if I am "stubborn" regarding this topic, it's anything but unfounded
00:11.53Hachiman_Any British resident will tell you that
00:11.55The_RandomnessThere's my two cents, and I'll leave it there
00:12.07The_Randomness< 'murican
00:12.14MonetIt all started because I mentioned that UKIP, a political party here in the UK wants to legalise handguns over here
00:12.17WormyWatchDogePeople in the UK can own guns anyway, with lisenses, usually for hunting or sport only
00:12.34Hachiman_And farmers
00:12.49WormyWatchDogeIf it gets used for self-defense on private property, then it is up to the courts to see if its use is just
00:13.34AdmiralPandasame deal with Australia, the only people who are allowed to use guns are those who need them for their livelihood (like farmers in the outback who from time to time need to shoot pest creatures), or who use them for competitive shooting (and they have to store their guns at the club)
00:13.40WormyWatchDogeHowever, if you lye in wait all day armed to kill a tresspasser, or lay traps, or torture and murder the tresspasser, they will probably call it murder
00:14.14Hachiman_Yeah, we're not allowed to kill people who invade our homes if they're not aiming to kill or harm us
00:14.14WormyWatchDogeIn fact happened to one farmer who shot kids who went on his land, thinking they were vandals
00:14.25DrodoEmpireWell yeah, if you lie in wait then at that point its an ambush, not defence. :P
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00:14.34WormyWatchDogelol
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00:22.05WormyWatchDogeWalking With Chavs (The Documentary) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2qARn3XsbA
00:23.08TekDroidHello
00:23.48WormyWatchDogehi
00:24.23TekDroidHey Wormy. I see you got that game.
00:25.26TekDroidI'd preordered it then realized my graphic card sucks. :/
00:28.06WormyWatchDogeShame, I pre-ordered it too
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00:28.25WormyWatchDogeWell, when you do get to play it, you'll be impressed
00:28.35WormyWatchDogeor maybe not
00:28.45WormyWatchDogebut i like it none-the-less
00:28.56TekDroidI was going to get a new one, but then the petson who was going to buy it changed their mind. :/
00:30.22TekDroid*buy my current one
00:33.08WormyWatchDogeoh well, goodbye
00:33.20TekDroidbye.
00:44.27GD12new chapter
00:44.28GD12http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Bunsen_Campaign#Mutual_Interest_2
00:44.41GD12oh wat that titles already taken
00:45.06GD12named changed
00:45.06GD12http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Bunsen_Campaign#Cooperation
00:45.51AdmiralPandabbl getting lunch
00:47.59GD12cool
00:52.53TekDroidInteresting. A bit confused on some of the who's who, but interesting.
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00:57.38TekDroidMight as well wrap up the transwarp war.
01:02.42GD12hi
01:03.21Knight_AlienHello
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01:07.22Hachiman_hai faglord
01:07.32OluapPlayerhai cockking
01:07.37Hachiman_yes
01:07.42Hachiman_I am Cock King
01:08.17OluapPlayerhttp://smalbanynewyork.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/cock.jpg dis u
01:08.38Hachiman_dats a rooster
01:10.41Hachiman_You thought about them Venom Elves?
01:11.02OluapPlayerI'm not sure if I'll still make those
01:11.41OluapPlayerWhen I thought about it I felt like I was copying the Drow
01:12.12Hachiman_I can help you differentiate them if you want
01:12.16Hachiman_I'm sure I can make them unqiue
01:12.20Hachiman_*unique
01:13.21OluapPlayerThat'd be cool
01:13.33OluapPlayerWhat i wanna know is if u thought about dem CoI and SoG
01:14.02Hachiman_I have but I'm too tired to RP tonight
01:14.11OluapPlayerI didn't ask for an rp hur
01:14.29OluapPlayerBut still that's good
01:14.35OluapPlayerI was about to go "U HAD ONE JOB"
01:15.03OluapPlayerDo you want to help me make the Venom Elves now are you too tired for that?
01:15.10Hachiman_Nah I can help
01:15.23OluapPlayerrite den
01:22.14TekDroidhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140530012059/spore/images/6/6f/Transwarp_War_32.png I'll give you two guesses to who won the war. http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140530012059/spore/images/6/6f/Transwarp_War_32.png
01:22.20TekDroidwhoops
01:23.02GD12Gargator
01:23.03GD12jk
01:26.13GD12bau
01:26.18GD12bai
01:30.27DrodoEmpireHmm... I wonder if organizations like the Red Cross still exist in the scifiverse.
01:31.10TekDroidProbably
01:31.34DrodoEmpireYeah, perhaps; At least there symbols would at any rate. :P
01:33.13TekDroidOrganizations like the Red Cross are something I see as always existing in some form.
01:33.29DrodoEmpireYeah
01:33.47DrodoEmpirePerhaps not the exact same organization, but one that's similar
01:36.19AdmiralPandaback
01:37.08AdmiralPandadepends on where you are, but I imagine they'd exist in most places
01:37.14DrodoEmpire^
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01:51.10The_RandomnessHello everyone
01:53.01OluapPlayerrindim
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02:03.19AdmiralPandaI wonder which tomorrow he's talking about
02:03.38OluapPlayerMay 30
02:03.50AdmiralPandait's already may 30 for me :P
02:04.00OluapPlayerThat's because you're a hipster
02:05.11AdmiralPandabut I have neither beard nor shades
02:06.00OluapPlayerShenanigans
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02:27.10Patriot868Whew, just finsished completely rewriting the Hegemonies naval page
02:27.16Patriot868Took forever
02:42.25TybusenHachiman_ OluapPlayer: So Kill la Kill is getting an English dub as well
02:42.41OluapPlayerdun care
02:42.46Hachiman_I personally don't care for dubs
02:42.53Hachiman_Dubs are shitty and terrible
02:43.25TybusenFigured you'd at least be intrigued because it's an anime you guys like
02:43.53Hachiman_I honestly feel kinda meh towards Kill La Kill
02:44.02Hachiman_The characters are great
02:44.24Hachiman_But I'm not fond of the ending nor much of the story
02:45.02TybusenYeah, that's one thing about Kill la Kill, the characters have great potential but most don't get a ton of development outside of Ryuko, Satsuki, and the Elite Four
02:45.27TybusenThe story and ending would be a hell of a lot more satisfying if I knew more about Nui and Discomilf's motivations
02:46.33TybusenI might watch part of the dub to see how well they do the overblown dialogue of Kill la Kill though
02:47.02TybusenCould be another halfway-decent dub like Gurren Lagann's
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03:27.44GD12Hello
03:27.52GD12Sup Patriot
03:40.55TekDroidHello
03:45.27GD12dinner bai
03:45.29AdmiralPandaso what's everyone up to?
04:00.52TekDroidNot much. Trying to wrap up some fiction
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04:56.11Zmr56Hi there ladies.
05:00.23AdmiralPandathere's no Techno here, who are you talking to?
05:02.17Zmr56You ladies...
05:02.26AdmiralPandabut there are no ladies here
05:02.33Zmr56Let me check...
05:02.36AdmiralPandaonly big strong men who have a habit of wearing pink
05:02.45Zmr56looks down everyone's trousers
05:02.55Zmr56Now I see...
05:02.57AdmiralPandapokes Zmr's eye out
05:03.09AdmiralPandaand that's why you don't look down a guy's pants
05:04.19Zmr56Well Imma go and contribute to the wiki by working on my fantasy fic
05:04.25AdmiralPandacool
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05:09.45GD12Hello
05:15.08Zmr56Hi
05:16.56GD12hi
05:34.34GD12for some reason im just looking at the relica page
05:42.40Zmr56So I'm looking at Drodo's rant page about firearms...
05:43.02Zmr56I guess this means I can make a character with guns! :D
05:43.07Zmr56pew pew
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09:26.25din0hello all!
09:26.30din0Wow it is quitt on the wiki
09:26.38din0whoops, seeI have a 0in my name instead of a o haha
09:26.53Liquid_InkHello
09:29.45din0:D
09:29.46din0Liquid!
09:33.12Liquid_InkHow are you?
09:36.30din0I am great thanks
09:36.32din0and yoiu?
09:37.27Liquid_InkPretty good
09:58.54din0GREAT TO HEAR
09:58.57din0awhoops
09:58.59din0caps lock was on
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10:24.59AdmiralPandahi all
10:28.02Liquid_InkHello
10:38.26din0hello
10:42.02AdmiralPandaanything interesting on your ends?
10:47.17Liquid_InkNo.
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10:50.01AdmiralPandahi ko
10:50.13OluapPlayerhi
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11:04.42JepardiHi
11:09.12AdmiralPandasup?
11:16.41din0have to leave
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11:17.02Wormyhi
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11:28.25Hachimanhai
11:30.08OluapPlayeromg hai
11:30.17OluapPlayerI'm starting the venom elf page atm
11:30.24Hachimanrite
11:30.43HachimanI should get a start on the Aithrena Elf page at some point once Imp has revamped their image
11:33.02HachimanIt's funny, the Aithrena started out as friendly, bishi elf traps, now they're being turned into death-worshipping semi-alien forest-dwelling cannibal hunters
11:33.29AdmiralPandahai buniman
11:33.36Hachimanhai Panda
11:34.20HachimanAithrena will still be quite social though
11:34.39OluapPlayerI liked the Aithrena because they were friendly and bishi
11:34.53HachimanWell they'll still look quite effeminate
11:34.57HachimanLong hair, female figure etc
11:35.14HachimanAnd they aren't violent really
11:35.45OluapPlayerBut I suppose the idea of them worshipping death is good for Clothovera's backstory since her father was an Aithrena
11:37.53HachimanAithrena/non-Aithrena pairings must be weird because Aithrena believe its culturally acceptable to eat the corpses of their friends and family while I imagine many other elves don't
11:42.48HachimanI imagine that if a non-Aithrena family member or friend dies, the Aithrena individual in question would rather they go through the cultural death ritual of their own kind rather than the Aithrena way
11:44.03OluapPlayerClothovera now has cannibal tendencies
11:44.47Hachimanhue
11:44.51HachimanWell Aithrena are necromancers
11:44.59HachimanOr at least they have death priests who are necromancers
11:45.09AdmiralPandaBastion - MURDER TIME FUN TIME
11:45.48OluapPlayerI suppose I'm gonna have to update Clotho's model again if the Ait are getting remade
11:45.56HachimanYou wouldn't have to
11:46.17HachimanThey're still gonna be white peeps
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12:08.21ImperiosHai
12:09.02AdmiralPandahi
12:09.14OluapPlayerhi
12:21.50OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Khalmartia_Elf new page done
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12:23.46Wormy_hi
12:23.57HachimanOluapPlayer: I like them
12:24.36ImperiosOluapPlayer: I bet they are toxic
12:25.10OluapPlayerThey are yes
12:25.43ImperiosKhal - YOU'RE TOXIC I'M SLIPPIN' UNDER
12:25.52OluapPlayerwat
12:25.58AdmiralPandaso they're DoTA players?
12:26.12AdmiralPandathat or any oceanic gamer ever
12:26.12OluapPlayerwat²
12:26.29HachimanHe's making pop culture references
12:26.32AdmiralPandaDoTA players just have a reputation for being toxic, as do oceanic gamers
12:26.38OluapPlayerright
12:26.41AdmiralPandatoxic as in really unpleasant
12:28.00ImperiosWait
12:28.00OluapPlayerNow I wonder what would happen if a Khalmartia tried to enchant a Man-Serpent
12:28.01ImperiosSo
12:28.04ImperiosKhals are Russian
12:28.18OluapPlayerI don't use nationalities in my fiction
12:33.28OluapPlayerQuotes would be pretty damn nito
12:34.30ImperiosIt was a joke hur
12:34.37ImperiosToxic Dota gamers
12:34.43ImperiosWe all know from what country they come from
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12:35.37MonetHelo
12:36.11Wormy_hi
12:36.20AdmiralPandahi Monet
12:38.09MonetI feel like my citizens are very ungrateful in this current tropico 5 game I have: My island has a booming tourist and manufacturing industry, everyone has decent wages, it's a very liberal nation with regular fair elections, a good educational and environmental standard and STILL a small portion of the population has a tendency to run off into the jungles and plot my downfall
12:38.55MonetIt seems no matter how many rebels I shoot during an uprising, they come back a year or two later with similar numbers
12:38.57WormyThere will always be such people.
12:39.25AdmiralPandaMonet: have you tried burning the jungles?
12:39.55MonetToo much effort. PLus it would hurt my logging sector.
12:40.02HachimanImperios: What should I call the leader of the Aithrena?
12:40.10ImperiosAs in the title or the name
12:40.18HachimanTitle
12:41.20ImperiosHm
12:42.08MonetWormy: It's just...their answer to deposing me is AK47s and explosives. My island is a fair democracy with an independant media
12:42.22AdmiralPandaMonet: They be crazy
12:42.36ImperiosLaw-Speaker, High Law-Speaker, Brehon
12:42.49MonetOh yes, and it's also resisted invasions by the NAZIS
12:43.03MonetAnd the USSR
12:43.51WormyWhat time are you playing then, WWII era?
12:43.55ImperiosMonet: Sounds like Russia
12:44.28MonetWormy: The bulk of Tropico 5 occurs across the bulk of the 20th century
12:44.50MonetSo WWII and the Cold War
12:45.00ImperiosTsar Alexander II liberated the 80% of Russia's population
12:45.06ImperiosHe was blown up by anarchists
12:45.39ImperiosAslo
12:45.57ImperiosHachiman OluapPlayer Monet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Vila_Elf Since OP was making elf pages I also decided to make a small page
12:46.00MonetI suppose where the rebels differ from foreign invasions is that these otherp owers have their own fronts to divert resources to. The rebels' only concern is my own nation's armies
12:46.23WormyMaybe the rebels are under the influence of your invaders
12:46.37OluapPlayercopycat
12:46.54OluapPlayerI'll read it after I'm done adding my chars to the Sovereign page
12:46.57MonetCome to think of it...I'm not on good terms with the USSR right now.
12:47.07OluapPlayer5 chars to add
12:47.09OluapPlayerlots of stuff
12:48.01ImperiosI'll probably add Lucretia too
12:49.09WormyWTF, a horror film about a murderous tire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWWufhqyGE8
12:50.52ImperiosHuh, funny how the original design of a species can change
12:51.01MonetOKay, I may have performed a public execution or five
12:51.06ImperiosI took the name "Vila" from Polish mythology
12:51.31ImperiosBut now they're like blood elves meet protoss meet Rennaissance Italy meet Gone with the Wind
12:51.48MonetAnd whenever my police discovered a citizen was in fact a local crime lord he was forced onto a boat and a his assets were sent to my swiss bank account
12:52.01OluapPlayerhur looks like Yurtnezz is the oldest Sovereign character
12:52.12ImperiosOldest as in in-universe?
12:52.16OluapPlayerYes
12:52.20ImperiosWell
12:52.33ImperiosThe Vila elf leader is ~1,800 years old
12:52.39HachimanQuoted
12:52.40OluapPlayerdum
12:53.08ImperiosSaSame quoted
12:53.12ImperiosSame quoted
12:54.34MonetA good rule for any self-respecting dictator: Discreetly build up a nice fat Swiss bank account
12:57.54OluapPlayerdme quotes
12:57.58OluapPlayerThank you both
12:58.09OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dryadali_Sovereign#Individuals bunch of stuff added
13:02.41Imperiosrite
13:02.46Imperiosadded Lucretia
13:02.49Imperiosnao read my stoof
13:04.06OluapPlayerI just finished reading shup
13:04.29OluapPlayerI ship Lucretia with Czaranis hur
13:05.50Imperioshur
13:06.08ImperiosGiven that Lucretia is a dirty slut, it's more than possible
13:06.42OluapPlayerEven if Czaranis is a horrifying decaying mutant giant
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13:09.48MonetWormy: Just read the Milky Way front for AD
13:10.09MonetTo literally scar a galaxy like that....it's quite hard to envision
13:10.44Wormyindeed
13:11.21MonetThe opening stages of Operation Deathdtorm are a suitable example of what the Draconid Grand Senate was afraid of when developing hyperspace weaponry.
13:11.28MonetDeathstorm*
13:11.34WormyAlso, in the far future, someone looking back on the Milky Way will see DCP space in the past as gravitationally lensed by the maelstrom
13:12.44MonetDamn, so other galaxies will eventually see a gravitationally lensed line-like void though the Milky Way?
13:13.11MonetDefinitely a disturning image
13:13.13WormyThe DCP has a plan for the Tyranny's Deathstorm.  Let them in, and then the DCP will flood the conquered space with pitch drive mines, which will drag off Tyranny vessels at close to the speed of light collapsing them into black holes
13:13.14Wormyyep
13:13.17MonetGah my spelling
13:13.41WormyFinally, the wormhole firewall weapon will be unleashed
13:14.19MonetIts only in the past few years that the Di has begun developinghyperspace weaponry
13:15.25OluapPlayerImpyDroid: dere I filled Czaranis' tab and added some quotes
13:17.16ImpyDroidI is pleased
13:22.11ImpyDroidI imagine Kassina and Lucretia hating each other's guts
13:22.48OluapPlayeryeah she wouldn't be a fan of the whole manipulative-backstabbing thing
13:23.34MonetIs it a good thing I am reminded of Lucretzia Borgia?
13:24.26MonetThey practically have the same names and both are manipulative high-born sluts who use the promise of sex, power and boob to get what they want.
13:25.10HachimanWhere have I heard that name from
13:25.39MonetHachiman: Ubi included her in AC Brotherhood
13:26.13Monethttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucrezia_Borgia this girl
13:27.51MonetI'm pretty sure Lucrezia is an italianisation of Lucretia
13:28.14OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/mkKgrT9.gif
13:29.50OluapPlayerhttp://static.naamapalmu.com/files/pm/big/pkt835yg.jpg I don't remember turkeys looking like this
13:32.44WormyThe zone will be so wrecked it could be turned into a fiction itself afterwards...  Black holes from super-radiant bombs and and pitch drives scattered everywhere, decaying cosmic string loops causing temporal anomalies, hypermatter outpourings (which probably collapse to black holes too), thermodynamic chaos, burned out wormholes, pulverised planetary rubble, gutted stars
13:33.41WormyThe war with the Tyranny has probably used up more superweapons than any other
13:34.16ImpyDroidMonet: She was one of the inspirstions yes
13:34.47MonetWormy: Now the DCP and Tyranny will fight with stics and stones heh
13:35.31Wormyor probably fighting by crawling on the ground
14:01.18ImpyDroidMonet: Actually I thought of changing Lucretia's name
14:01.27ImpyDroidIt sounds a bit too human
14:01.31ImpyDroidOr is it okay?
14:02.19MonetI like it
14:02.36MonetYou don't see that many Lucretias about from my understanding
14:03.15ImpyDroidI can think of two
14:03.25ImpyDroidThe poison bitch and that raped Roman girl
14:04.25MonetDOn't quite know them
14:04.33MonetUnless you refer to Lucrezia herself
14:07.06Technobliteratorthe views of elliot rodgers are the most disgusting things I have read in my life
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14:09.34OluapPlayerHmm what to do now
14:09.35GD12Hello
14:09.37OluapPlayerhi
14:10.17Wormyhi
14:10.54WormyGD12: We've had an idea for a post-war fiction involving the battlefront
14:11.10GD12what is it?
14:11.35Wormyhttp://pastie.org/private/x9w0zh4fzxsssvhoja2mnq
14:12.28WormyThe zone would become very dangerous for travel
14:12.51WormyBut might become a hide out for overseers, summglers and mercenaries, who survive going in it
14:13.15OluapPlayerI think I'm gonna write about champion tale
14:13.48GD12Yeah makes sense
14:14.25GD12The Earth Equivalent would be if the Soviets or NATO decided to spam ICBMs on the East Germany/Wester Germany border
14:15.11GD12So obviously its not going to be that happy of a place to live
14:16.13WormyThere might be clean up operations, or harvesting resources too
14:16.24WormyOr maybe governments might hide stuff there
14:16.46WormySome of it might get transported in time
14:16.58Wormyby the cosmic string time machines
14:17.49GD12aye
14:17.57GD12many possibilities for such a fucked up portion of spacetime
14:19.02GD12Sticks and Stones wars also seem interesting
14:19.02GD12hur
14:19.23MonetI was wondering how many would get my reference
14:19.25Technobliteratorbrb makeup
14:21.56WormyEinstein
14:22.43GD12aye
14:22.50GD12I know not what weapons ww3 will be fought with
14:22.57GD12but i know that ww4 will be fought with sticks and stones
14:23.41AdmiralPandawhy not fists?
14:23.43AdmiralPandamuch more manly
14:23.52GD12thats better hur
14:24.23AdmiralPandaactually that reminds me of a sci-fi story I read once
14:24.32GD12which one?
14:25.14AdmiralPandaI think it was called Battlezone or something, the premise was that America and Asia got fucked over by mutual nuclear war, causing Europe to undergo massive policy changes
14:25.25AdmiralPandathe result was the Battlezone, the only legal place for fighting to occur
14:25.32AdmiralPandathe only thing was, no weapons were allowed
14:25.50AdmiralPandaso basically you had nations' armies fighting each other with their bare hands
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14:26.53GD12hi
14:26.57OfficerJackalHello!
14:27.15WormyStar Wars has The Maw http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Maw
14:27.20Wormyhi
14:30.10GD12I remember that
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14:32.11The_Randomnessboop
14:32.34AdmiralPandahi, I'm off to bed
14:32.39The_RandomnessOk
14:32.40AdmiralPandaheretical as it is I want to sleep tonight :P
14:32.53GD12night
14:32.54The_RandomnessSleep is for the weak!
14:33.13AdmiralPandais weak
14:33.20The_Randomnessis also weak
14:33.20AdmiralPandaat least I'm not casul
14:33.21Hachimanu meen casul
14:33.28The_Randomnesshue
14:33.29AdmiralPandaweak and casul not the same
14:33.41AdmiralPandaanyway bai
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14:44.20ImpawayHachiman: I'm making Aithers now
14:44.33ImpawayWhat kind of clothing should I give to them? Something like they already have or less?
14:44.34Hachimanyey
14:44.38HachimanHave less
14:45.30HachimanDo you remember the details I gave you about them?
14:45.56ImpawayYes
14:52.12Monethttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatsUpKingDude I wonder how many faction leaders in the fictionverse follow this trope
14:53.41MonetProbably not many
14:54.15MonetAfter all we are talking empires containing billions, perhaps trillions of people
14:55.21GD12aye
14:55.37TechnoIsAway.away
14:55.39TechnoIsAwayfuck I mean
14:55.46Technobliteratorthere we go
14:56.08GD12and the security concerns as well
14:57.04MonetI was drawn to that trope after browsing for throne room tropes.
14:57.47MonetI found a debatable one about how there seems to be a trope where a leader's throne room is either in a remote corder of the palace or is behind a maze of lethal traps and soldiers.
14:57.53MonetIn video games that is
14:58.00GD12i see
14:58.09GD12well ive got to go for breakfast so ttyl
14:58.28MonetWhen one of the purposes of a throne room is to hold audience with crowds or dignitaries
14:59.21MonetIn the case of the "lethal traps" department I'd say the path to the Alcant ithroen room is littered with deployable forcefield barricades and concealed guns.
14:59.44MonetAll cleverly hidden within the walls and floors of the corridors
15:13.25ImpawayHm
15:13.31ImpawayI could make female Aithers topless
15:14.13OluapPlayerErylia - ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
15:15.39HachimanYou could hur
15:15.46HachimanI don't reckon they'd have many qualms about nakedness
15:16.12Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10339740_411333135675310_226883463775475802_n.jpg
15:16.17OluapPlayerNow we know where Clotho's lustiness comes from
15:17.10OluapPlayerhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/439/842/401.png
15:18.27The_Randomnessoops forgot I left this open
15:18.34The_RandomnessI'll be back later, bye guys
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15:19.41Quark8Hello.
15:19.58Quark8Bye.
15:26.28Impawayhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Creepy_Auschwitz_Elves.png dere
15:26.59OluapPlayerThat looks good
15:27.09OluapPlayerFaces too detailed tho
15:27.24Impawayu jelly
15:27.41HachimanOoh I like those a lot
15:27.54OluapPlayerNo I find it ugly hur
15:28.03ImpawayLook closely at the female's hair
15:28.44OluapPlayerI see spooky scary skeletons
15:29.33ImpawayAye
15:30.24ImpawayI think I made them a tad voodoo
15:30.49HachimanI like it, the voodoo touch works a lot
15:36.19HachimanWe need a gallery of elven hybrids hur
15:37.29Impawayya
15:38.55OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tales_of_Champions#Filonan:_Lord_of_Dragonriders there
15:39.33OluapPlayerHm wait, I did a mispell
15:39.50OluapPlayerF5 that pls
15:40.45Wormyi love time lapses http://www.capitalbay.com/uk/350479-lighting-up-the-sky-photographer-uses-time-lapse-technology-to-capture-dazzling-sunsets-and-colourful-clouds.html
15:44.41HachimanOluapPlayer: Ooh that was a nice chapter
15:45.38OluapPlayerThanks
15:54.50OluapPlayerhttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/762/209/979.png genius
16:05.53WormyI'd pay to watch it.
16:09.33WormyMonet:  Everytime I have an epic self-realisation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcZ9kQ1h-ZY
16:10.09WormyI just realised something about the way I learn and how it has both benefited and made me struggle all my life.
16:10.21WormyAnd now what to do about it.
16:28.46MonetCool
16:29.00MonetSorry for the late reply, was preoccupied with something else
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16:45.39Hachimanhai
16:45.44ImpawayOluapPlayer: Nice story
16:45.54ImpawayAlso, I like the bad guy being sexist :P
16:53.48HachimanOluapPlayer: Wonder what an Aithrena-Erylia character would look like hur
16:55.14OluapPlayerI can't think of an appearance for that
17:04.05ImpawayLemme find it
17:05.47ImpawayHachiman: It would be an Elf of Ice and Fire
17:05.54Hachimanoh deer
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17:23.45HachimanOh dear God
17:23.52HachimanThis D&D campaign is fucking amazing
17:26.27HachimanBasically some staff from Acquisitions Inc. staff get together to play at PAX and go dungeon-trawling, and they eventually come to a giant, jewel-encrusted statue of a dwarf that towers over them. Their paladin gets a message from his god Tymora, asking her if she needs him anywhere else, and she replies "We need you to fight the Kaiju."
17:26.36HachimanThe giant dwarven statue is actually an arcanized mech
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17:33.18Hachimanhai
17:33.58Xhoshup
17:34.04Xhoslaps Hachiman
17:34.11XhoI mean hi
17:35.42XhoWhat to do what to do
17:38.01XhoI'll work on the Orichalcum Elf creature page that's what I'll do
17:39.37HachimanBeen a lot of elf hype recently hur
17:55.01ImpyDroidEhlf
17:55.40ImpawayYeah speaking of which
17:55.48ImpawayXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Vila_Elf spu elves
18:01.33Xho“Stop acting like drow.” - Yurtnezz Bertonius
18:01.33XhoOuch
18:05.44Xhohttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140530180515/spore/images/c/cf/OriElfPortrait.png There we go
18:08.45ImpawayOri - I AM TOTALLY FABULOUS
18:17.23XhoI dunno whether calling them Lawful Evil still fits them really
18:17.38XhoLawful Neutral perhaps
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18:21.06Xhoslaps OluapPlayer
18:21.07Xhoshup
18:24.15Xhoy u no crei
18:24.21Xhocrei evrytiem
18:24.29Technobliteratorok I've decided, I will resume work on the cleansing flames officially
18:24.34TechnobliteratorI have actual time to now
18:24.48Technobliteratorand actual ideas
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18:28.38The_RandomnessHello everyone
18:31.37XhoHello
18:31.50XhoImpaway: Give me a quote to put over the top of the Orichalcum Elf page
18:31.56XhoDo it quickly since I'm running out of time fast here
18:32.00XhoI have to restart my computer
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18:39.10MonetHello
18:39.13The_RandomnessHey
18:48.23The_Randomnessbrb lunch
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19:17.23XhoWell that was a ball ache and a half
19:17.28TekDroidHello
19:18.05XhoHad to update my computer to Windows 8.1
19:18.30MonetOuch
19:19.24OluapPlayerew
19:20.03Technobliteratorew windows
19:20.07ImpawayHi
19:20.07OluapPlayerhttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140530190418/spore/images/thumb/e/ef/Xitannoth.png/1068px-Xitannoth.png new wings, new tail
19:20.21XhoSoldalatel - so wat r u a burd or a dragon
19:20.54ImpawayXho: In their tongue, he's Xitannoth, dragonburd
19:21.08OluapPlayerXitannoth - pterosaur
19:22.00OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Khalmartia_Elf also made a new elf race
19:22.43XhoOluapPlayer: I shall call them snake elves
19:22.52OluapPlayerThat's what they are pretty much
19:23.06Xho"Venom Elves speak with raspy voices with an emphasis on the "s" sound, similar to Man-Serpents"
19:23.09XhoWe do have a word for that
19:23.11Xho'sibilant'
19:23.17OluapPlayerNever heard of
19:23.22XhoWell you have now
19:23.31OluapPlayerdun care
19:23.37Xhoyes u do
19:23.48OluapPlayereatus shitus
19:24.11Xhofukus uus
19:24.29ImpawayOluapPlayer: Bow before the power of linguistics and phonetics
19:24.41OluapPlayerur not away
19:24.55OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tales_of_Champions#Filonan:_Lord_of_Dragonriders also new section
19:25.00ImperiosFor soem reason I got really nostalgic today
19:25.04ImperiosYeah
19:25.12ImperiosAs I said, I like the bad guy being sexist :P
19:25.18OluapPlayerThe link was mostly for Xho
19:26.15ImperiosAnyway I spent all day watching WoW videos today for some reason
19:26.24ImperiosThat and playing the recently reinstalled GW2
19:27.49XhoOluapPlayer: So how do Erylia Elves wash their hair
19:28.33OluapPlayerNo different than anyone else
19:28.41Xhobut
19:28.43Xhofyr
19:28.53OluapPlayerThey're not made of fire
19:28.59Xhodey r nao
19:29.06OluapPlayergo update paegs
19:29.09Xhonoh
19:29.14OluapPlayerying
19:29.17Xhonoh
19:30.48OluapPlayerI actually based Xitannoth out of a Quetzalcoatlus toy I used to have
19:30.54OluapPlayerWhich's why he's a pterosaur
19:34.39MonetFunny because the name is two letters off being the name of a Mesoamerican bird-snake god
19:34.51MonetQuetzalcoatlus I mean
19:35.11OluapPlayerI'm aware
19:35.35MonetSorry
19:36.04XhoQuetzalcoatl
19:36.08Xhoda giant burd
19:36.12Xhoof burd things
19:36.16Xhoand sacrifices
19:36.19Xhocuz azteec
19:38.19MonetPassing thought
19:38.41MonetWhich species is naturally more portent with magic: Modern elves or lesser Keldhoros?
19:38.48Monetpotent*
19:39.01OluapPlayerHmm
19:39.18OluapPlayerWhat do you mean with potent?
19:39.52XhoNaturally more powerful I guess
19:39.56MonetHow easily they can manipulate the Source.
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19:40.18OluapPlayerHm
19:40.20GhelaeHello.
19:41.11OluapPlayerI imagine Lesser Kelodhres having easier access but elves having an easier time mastering multiple magic schools
19:41.51OluapPlayerThat's just me though
19:44.43XhoGot to make an entire list of every Orichalcum Elf mentioned in fiction
19:44.48XhoLonger list than I expected
19:44.52XhoProbably around 25 I think
19:46.18MonetI've brought this question up before but I've wondered if its possible that, while I'm sure several lesser Kelodhros are descendents of of greater Kelodhros or even drakes, Draonoggr, given their body plan, could be biologically closer than most.
19:47.02MonetAs i've mentioned, Draonoggr seem to be one of very few (dunno maybe only) lesser Kelodhros that are equally comfortable travelling on four legs as they are with two
19:48.13OluapPlayeri'd personally prefer is there were no advantages between them
19:52.41MonetIt was a thought.
19:53.30MonetPlus I wonder how many other species of lesser Kelodhros are biologically immortal.
19:54.09OluapPlayerNone of my Drakes are immortals
19:54.38OluapPlayerExcept Vixaatus
19:55.01MonetBy immortal I mean "cannot die from old age"
19:55.13OluapPlayerSo do I
19:55.19MonetJust checking
19:56.27OluapPlayerFire Drakes and Sand Drakes used to be immortal until their immortality got stripped away from them
19:56.31OluapPlayerPoison Drakes were born mortal
20:00.47Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Orichalcum_Elf#Known_Orichalcum_Elves There's every Orichalcum Elf/former Orichalcum Elf that has been in fiction so far
20:01.25XhoOh wait I forgot Akharav
20:02.22XhoThere we go updated
20:03.18XhoShould I add all the past Imperators or not
20:04.25OluapPlayerThat's your decision hur
20:04.37Xhoeh might as well
20:04.40XhoThere's a lot to add
20:06.23ImpyDroidMonet: About elf/dragon magic
20:07.16MonetYeah?
20:07.16ImpyDroidI think that dragon magic is innate whereas elves are able to learn it
20:07.29ImpyDroidSo while dragon abilities will probably be stronger on avetsge
20:07.53ImpyDroidThey will also be limited
20:08.49HachimanI imagine dragons and Drakes as being only able to master one kind of magic
20:08.56HachimanBut excelling at it
20:08.59ImpyDroid^What I am talking about
20:09.05MonetYeah.
20:09.17ImpyDroidSame thing
20:10.06MonetSo while elves can study any school they wish, kelodhros are more limited to an innate element eg. fire or light
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20:11.06DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
20:12.07GhelaeHello.
20:14.10WormyImpyDroid, Hachiman, Monet:  See the "Tan Monster" http://youtu.be/NkOiz1xcQH4?t=14m50s
20:16.50HachimanXho: Why were so many Loyalists crucified hur
20:17.33XhoRead Terminus hur
20:17.44XhoThose loyalists that were crucified were Septimus' group
20:18.20XhoSeptimus confronted Constantius and Constantius had them all crucified
20:18.38Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Orichalcum_Elf Turns out there's 49 Orichalcum Elf characters mentioned
20:19.32GhelaeQuite a few.
20:24.37MonetI wonder now how much interaction there may have been between the sky Draonoggr and the Oriachalcum elves
20:24.51XhoDefinitely some
20:25.29MonetThing is the sky draos spent most of their time on their floating islands, maybe coming down now and again for a crusade.
20:25.52MonetMainly because they have a ery low opinion of flightless beings.
20:26.09ImpyDroidand the Ordnung? Too bros I assume?
20:26.40XhoOrichalcum Elves - bitch we tamed sun drakes hao u get low opinion of us
20:26.56Ghelae"Now and again" could still add up to a lot of times over the age of the Orichalcum Elf Imperium.
20:28.36MonetThese crusades were basically them showing "groundlings" their place
20:29.14ImpyDroidAnd then they met the Ordnung
20:29.21ImpyDroidCue racist versus racist
20:29.37XhoI can't imagine it being a smart thing to flaunt superiority at Orichalcum Elves but oh well
20:30.06MonetXho: They might begrudgingly respect the Oricalcum elves
20:30.28XhoDrao - we liek ur gold and ur culture and everything but ur still from the ground so we still haet u sort of
20:30.54MonetIf a crusade goes badly, drao logic is to fly back up to their floating islands where they can't be followed
20:31.23XhoLucky that they didn't have complete mastery over Sky Drakes then hur
20:31.39MonetUnless of course their crusade targets have flying mounts of their own yeah
20:33.00Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10370888_316436031847429_4836978523675215700_n.png
20:33.04XhoI'm beginning to wonder what modern races would consider ancient
20:33.16ImpyDroidXho Monet: I imagine the Ordnung-Sky Drake-Orichalcum alliance
20:33.37ImpyDroidThe Holy Triumvirate of We-Are-Better-Than-You
20:33.38XhoYou mean Draos right
20:33.46ImpyDroidya
20:33.50ImpyDroidDrao
20:33.57XhoIt was probably existent
20:34.09XhoOrichalcum Elves did have an alliance with the Old Colossi as well
20:34.21XhoI think everything was probably allied back then
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20:34.32XhoWhat with giant demons and all
20:34.35MonetSky drao superiority complex: if you can't fly, if you're not immortal and if you live in/on the ground you're inferior to us
20:35.19Xhohur
20:35.29XhoOrichalcum Elf: You're inferior, just accept it
20:35.48XhoI wonder what the Orichalcum Elves would think of the Néva
20:35.49Xhohm
20:36.09MonetSky drao - Can you fly above the clouds solo?
20:36.22ImpyDroidOrdnung superiority complex: UNTERMENSCH UNTERMENSCH LEBENSRSUM FEGELEIN
20:37.39XhoIf the Sun Drakes were still alive, Koldenwelt would (likely) be still under Orichalcum Elf rule
20:37.40XhoMostly anyway
20:37.45Hachiman"To distract myself from the undeniable and virulent truth that I share the same sack of skin and meat and shit as parasitic Man, I rest my eyes and dream of a universe alternative. In my dreamscape, I roam this flicker of a whimsical world as the far superior entity. Dolphin."
20:38.04XhoLonginus - *click*
20:40.21MonetI imagine that Sky drao armour and crafts are highly prized, perhaps more so than Draokorumnoggr craft
20:40.35MonetSince most crafts are interwoven with magic.
20:41.20MonetDolphins are smart but they're also assholes
20:42.44ImpyDroidI wonder if humans in the Empire should have their own conlang
20:42.58ImpyDroidOr should I keep to IRL tongues
20:44.24MonetWell. EoM speech seems to be mostly latin. WHich if I recall, is what we use for the Old Tongue
20:44.48ImpyDroidYeah
20:45.22ImpyDroidPersonally I imagine the current human languages to be the changed forms of elven speech
20:46.46MonetLanguages are used to differentiate between nations. Look at Spanish and Portuguese, or English and American English
20:47.24MonetI read that in France, locals announce ot English speakers that they are learning "American", what with France's 1000-year-old grudge with England.
20:47.36MonetNot all locals, but at least some of them
20:48.19WormyTai chi is so complicated
20:48.35ImpyDroidYes that is what I am thinking of
20:48.51GhelaeElvish languages have changed fairly little in the 15 millennia since the end of the Adamantine Age, but that's probably because Elves are so long-lived. For humans, their languages might have changed as much as you'd expect them to over the same time period.
20:48.56ImpyDroidPerhaps a bit more divergent, like Italian and Spanish
20:49.17ImpyDroidGhelae: So essentially elven languages would be more conservative
20:49.24XhoOh great now Saints Row IV isn't working
20:49.29GhelaeYes.
20:49.30XhoWindows 8.1 is not fun
20:49.35ImpyDroidActually, that's a thought
20:49.43ImpyDroidI could like make a conlang
20:49.46ImpyDroidThen whack it
20:50.09MonetLol, makes sense
20:50.22ImpyDroidThe normal version'd be the elven speech whereas the whacked version would be the human speech
20:50.56HachimanI don't imagine elves having shared language
20:51.25ImpyDroidWell
20:51.29ImpyDroidNeither do I
20:51.44ImpyDroidI imagine their tongues would be related but not outright the same
20:52.04ImpyDroidLike Spanish and French dunno
20:52.35MonetI mentioned the Spanish/Portuguese and English/American language differences because Portuguese/American struck me as ones construted to give a middle-finger to the nations that coined Spanish/American respectively.
20:52.52MonetSpanish/English*
20:54.01Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10413359_741154655905502_6137818740767673322_n.png
20:54.34DrodoEmpirehur
20:54.35ImpyDroidActually
20:55.00ImpyDroidWould the elven languages be related to the Old Tongue/majik Latin?
20:55.23Hachimanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7_T8PLgtGU Gojira man
20:55.24MonetI imagine so
20:55.27HachimanGojira is so goooooood
20:55.54MonetOh yeah and before Dante came along, there were a whole bunch of Italian languages.
20:56.31ImpyDroidDitto with Arabic, and German, and English
20:57.01ImpyDroidThe modern literary English is in fact an artificially created mishmash of different dialects
20:57.08ImpyDroidSeriously
20:57.18ImpyDroid"he" is from London
20:57.28ImpyDroid"they" is from the north
20:57.39MonetThe italian city-states hated each other so much they deferred ot making up theor own languages
20:57.58Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t1.0-9/282316_10150989228194636_2086908515_n.jpg
20:58.08MonetI can't remember but I think Dante used either Milanese or Florentine Italian
20:59.01ImpyDroidAnyway I am not sure what would the elven languages sound like
20:59.13ImpyDroidLike, warped Old Tongue or something unique
20:59.15HachimanI imagine maybe Asian
20:59.19HachimanOr Asianesque
20:59.46ImpyDroidAsianesque
20:59.53ImpyDroidThat's pretty broad hur
21:00.14MonetYeah.
21:00.19HachimanChinese/Korean/Mongol/Japanese/etc
21:00.34ImpyDroidThese languages are unrelated to one another hur
21:00.55Hachimanur jokin
21:01.03ImpyDroidI am not
21:01.09MonetYet Chinese, Japanese and Korean use vaguely similar writing styles and remotely similar characters
21:01.23ImpyDroidRite the last three *may* share a *distant* common ancestor
21:01.50ImpyDroidBut that theory is not universally accepted
21:02.43ImpyDroidChinese however is totally different
21:02.55ImpyDroidAnyway
21:04.44ImpyDroidIn order for the whole conlang thing to make more sense I'll probably state that the Old Tongue loanwords were not directly absorbed but rather translated
21:05.18ImpyDroidThat's what the Russians do
21:06.05ImpyDroidThe Russian word for 'conscience' can be roughly translsted as 'together-message/news/wisdom'
21:06.12ImpyDroidCon-Scientia
21:06.50ImpyDroidThough the idea of the elven languages being Chinese-esque makes sense to me
21:09.06HachimanI wanna make dolphin people now hur
21:11.43WormyDoplhin elves
21:11.55Wormythink about it
21:12.20WormyElves with flippers for ears
21:13.05GhelaeWould we classify fantasyverse dolphins as mammalian theriocephali, because it's taxonomically accurate, or as fish theriocephali, because people used to use the word "fish" in such a broad sense?
21:13.32Wormytheriocephali is a clever reference
21:13.36GhelaeOf course, making them for the Civverse would remove this problem. :P
21:14.02GhelaeWe do also have Wormy's sapient dolphins in the scifiverse.
21:14.14Wormyindeed
21:14.31WormyYou could even use my models
21:14.42WormyThough they would need re-dressing
21:15.06WormyThey currently have space swimsuits
21:15.25Wormyhttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130118234230/spore/images/9/9e/Dolphins_in_spaaace.png
21:22.43WormyHachiman:  John C Lilly did a lot of scientific research with Doplhins, and had very interesting ideas about their intelligence.  But he also took a lot of LSD and ketamin, so whether he is the best source is debatable http://www.newrealities.com/index.php/transcribed-interviews/106-interview-with-john-lilly-on-dolphin-communication
21:24.07WormyBut he described in one bit of his book how the mother Dolphins released with their young would teach their young not to approach strange boats, having never experienced the wild and nasty humans.
21:24.20GhelaeIf the *dolphins* took LSD and ketamine, I'm sure that could have led to some very worthwhile research.
21:24.33DrodoEmpirehur
21:24.38WormySo that suggests complex thinking and perspective
21:25.02WormyI think they possibly did put them on drugs
21:25.15WormyIt was the mid 20th century
21:26.41HachimanIs it wrong that I think that trips and drugs make for some worthy inspirational material?
21:27.42GhelaeNo. A lot of people have found their creativity vastly improved by such things.
21:28.12Technobliteratorthe Beatles
21:28.28TechnobliteratorI must be in the minority though because I fucking hate the Beatles
21:28.42HachimanI'm indifferent to the Beatles hur
21:28.59Technobliteratortheir music is either boring or annoying
21:29.13Technobliteratorand I have to study them all the fucking time -__-
21:29.24WormyIn the section "LSD AND DOLPHINS", things take drugs turn
21:29.38Technobliteratorbut yeah, drugs/trips are indeed worthy inspirational material
21:29.41HachimanLSDolphins
21:29.52Technobliteratorhell, if you're Rastafarian, you also think they are sacred
21:30.08GhelaeI can remember there was at least one mathematician who even relied on... I think it was amphetamines, but I can't remember... to come up with new maths. So along with art, I'm sure plenty of maths and science has been done using drugs.
21:30.38WormyI'm actually a psychonaut, so I agree.  Though I have no idea how to get drugs nor want to be caught with them, so I do deep meditation and qigong instead.  It has given me creative inspiration a few times
21:31.19WormyRichard Feynman was actually friends with John C Lilly and used his sensory deprivation tanks
21:32.54WormyGhelae:  AS:  Did you ever give dolphins LSD ?  J:  Oh yes.  Six of them.  They all had wonderful trips.  AS:  How do you know that?  :  Well, they would swim along the surface, then they suddenly turn their beaks down and turn on their sonar.  Then I remembered my first trip on LSD, the floor disappeared and bang I fell to the floor because I saw stars through the earth.  So what they were doing with their sonar it seems [to me]
21:32.59WormyThere is your answer
21:33.27GhelaeThanks. But it cut out after "[to me]".
21:33.58Wormy<PROTECTED>
21:35.33WormyMore on him there http://cjstone.hubpages.com/hub/John-Lilly
21:36.12WormyI think he was a scientist, but become more faitful to psychonautics in the end.  Straddling genius and insanity
21:36.57XhoGenius and insanity does often fall hand in hand
21:39.04WormyIndeed, Gödel went insane and starved himself to death
21:40.14WormyJohn noted that one shouldn't "lose the map", that is when one becomes lost in their obsessions
21:40.43HachimanWhat happened to John?
21:40.58WormyJohn on Outsanity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW7f63ruuU8
21:41.12WormyHe died in the early 2000's, not thought to be drug related though
21:42.41WormySome of the most interesting things are when he talked about his guides
21:43.06WormyHe didn't claim to know what they were, they could even be his subconscious self
21:43.22WormyBut how they saved him several times during drug overdose
21:44.07WormyThen I think he started talking about ECCO and people probably saw him loosing it
21:44.17WormyEarth Coincidence Control Office
21:45.28WormyAccording to John, this is their message to Humanity:  http://pastie.org/private/5o33unyqcjpxcoqa98lra
21:45.36XhoI need to have a quote on top of the Orichalcum Elf page
21:45.38XhoSomeone give me one
21:47.00HachimanGimme a moment and I'll think of one
21:52.16Xhodis moment is long
21:52.19Xhoand very momenty
21:52.24Hachimantis long quote
21:52.50Xhodeer gawd
21:53.41WormyTerminators are coming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Lilly#Solid_State_Intelligence
21:54.03Hachiman"They were once the masters of our world. Their world. This was always their world, never ours. They were the ripest fruits in Isiris' garden, inferior to none and superior to everything that was other. To have even dared to comprehend their extinction was utter lunacy, or idiocy. But. Isiris allowed them to spoil. Rot and decay. Perhaps... this is still their world. And they are still superior."
21:55.21Hachimandat ur quote
21:56.24Xhodis gud quote
21:56.26XhoWho from hur
21:57.25XhoBah I'll just leave it as unknown
21:57.48Hachimanrite
21:57.53HachimanI was gonna come up with a name but fien
21:58.33XhoMate this fly
21:58.38XhoI've been battling it for ages
21:58.42XhoI whacked it like eight times
21:58.48XhoIt was so tanky it didn't even move
21:58.54Hachimanolol
21:59.23XhoIt then moved on to an empty shoebox and then I just kicked the shoebox out, the fly didn't even move off it as I kicked it
21:59.29Xhofly op get nerfed
22:02.12WormyThe mind can take you anywhere.  How fantastic it is, to not be a rock.
22:02.20WormyActually
22:02.26Wormyno, rocks with minds
22:02.53Wormy.http://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/wp-content/Man-the-mobile-Mineral.html
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22:05.30Wormy"Since the dawn of consciousness, we human beings have always taken it for granted that we are essentially [disgust in voice] animals."
22:06.12WormyI like his humour
22:10.39GhelaeI'm going to go now. Bye!
22:10.42Wormybye
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22:12.46MonetHello
22:16.09Wormyhi
22:17.37WormyTechnobliterator:  This is a very late response, but the Beatles don't interest me that much either.  Though they obviously had importance
22:18.24WormyYellow Submarine gets stuck in the head though
22:24.51Technobliteratorthey had importance
22:24.54Technobliteratorbut I hate their music
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22:32.59XhoNO FUCKING WAY
22:33.02XhoTHAT FLY IS BACK
22:33.04XhoI CLOSED THE DOOR
22:33.05XhoAND IT GOT IN
22:33.20XhoNO YOU CAN FUCK RIGHT OFF
22:33.29TybusenNice to see you too Xho :)
22:34.01MonetXho vs the fly 2: Fly's revenge.
22:37.07Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10417697_277710155741875_8839738099797118791_n.jpg "his mother should have swallowed"
22:40.45MonetFail.
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22:52.49DrodoEmpireBack. :P
22:54.11WormyEating bright blue garlic again
22:55.02WormyGAH.  It burns
22:55.10WormyI think its laced with poison
22:55.18WormyThey have silenced me
23:20.46DrodoEmpiretest
23:21.13MonetThe Illuminati are onto you
23:21.59MonetDrodoempire: You failed by three points
23:22.49DrodoEmpireD:
23:24.42TybusenDrodoEmpire, my son, you have failed me, you have failed us all, you have brought great dishonor to this famiry
23:25.47DrodoEmpireexiles himself from the IRC, overcome with shame
23:38.10DrodoEmpirereturns from his self-imposed exile
23:39.31TybusenAre you doctor yet?

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