IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140523

00:33.25Monet"Even when being poor here involves living in a decent condo with an 8000-channel television and a modern skycar, the wealthy can still buy your tail on a silver platter" >> possible phrase to describe the economy in the DI
00:33.58MonetMight need to rethink it a little
00:35.38MonetThe idea being "our poor are your rich and our rich are your emperors"
00:36.19MonetHmm
00:37.17Monet"We all live in spires of gold and glass. Except the rich, who live in spires of diamond and liquid platinum"
00:37.53DrodoEmpireInteresting.
00:38.35Monet"gold and glass" is a know nway of describing a decent DI city.
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00:41.13MonetWait...Trying to remember my chemistry and whether or not platinum needs to be melted via furnace heat or electrolysis
00:43.44MonetI am starting to feel like a good chunk of the Imperium is shouting "Look at me I'm rich and cultured!"
00:56.43DrodoEmpireMonet: I guess. :P But that isn't necessaruly bad or absurd, if that's what you're worried about
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00:58.41GD12Hello
00:58.47DrodoEmpireHey
00:59.10GD12DrodoEmpire : Great job on your mod work
00:59.19DrodoEmpireThanks
00:59.22DrodoEmpire:3
00:59.31GD12It would jsut be a bit better if you could import spore models into it hur
00:59.36MonetDrodoEmpire: I wonder if its geting grating for some people
00:59.38GD12but thats probably not possible
00:59.58GD12But its pretty awesome as far as i can tell
01:00.16DrodoEmpireGD12: I really do wish I could, but that isn't possible and, if it is, is far, far beyond my abilities
01:00.26DrodoEmpireBut thanks anyhow
01:00.30GD12yeah
01:00.44GD12I would ask if you could import the Dominatus in but they'd be unbalancing i beleive
01:00.53DrodoEmpireNo, I could certainly try
01:01.13DrodoEmpireI may have to give modifiers severly reducing manpower, though
01:01.18DrodoEmpire:P
01:01.20GD12That could work and yeahs thats smart
01:01.30GD12+Research +Quality --Manpower
01:01.55DrodoEmpireI could even add an event pertaining to the culling
01:02.11DrodoEmpireThat may fire either at a specific time or just in a broad window
01:02.26GD12It could be a decision
01:02.35DrodoEmpireYeah, that too
01:02.42GD12Manpower would be reduced alot
01:03.01GD12Though you'd see an increase in quite a few modifiers
01:03.22GD12btw when did you learn how to mod?
01:03.32DrodoEmpireI just picked it up one day. :P
01:03.43DrodoEmpireAll of the mod thus far has been trial and error
01:03.49GD12thas neat
01:03.57TekDroidI was going to try out modding it too.
01:04.09DrodoEmpireWith a bit of wiki searching just as a beginning primer
01:04.38DrodoEmpirebut 90% of it is just me fucking around with knobs, buttons, and whistles until I have something to show for it. XD
01:04.42GD12ahh i see haha
01:04.45GD12nice job!
01:04.50DrodoEmpireThanks. :3
01:06.14GD12I do think that the ficverse would have great potential as a pretty much any kind of video game
01:06.25GD12throws it at Paradox Interactive
01:06.52DrodoEmpirelol, yeah
01:07.29GD12It would work well as a Grand Strategy Game, RTS, RPG, Shooter etc
01:07.45DrodoEmpireJust the amount of well-defined fiction countries lends it to a strategy game (especially grand strategy, and its characters and interesting weapons and items lends it also to a shooter, RPG
01:07.46DrodoEmpireYeah
01:07.48DrodoEmpireExactly
01:07.53GD12A Civ 5 mod would probably be the easiest to do
01:08.08GD12Probably mirroring one sector of a campaign
01:08.09DrodoEmpireMeh... I don't like Civ V as much as EUIV.
01:08.16GD12i said easiest :)
01:08.37TekDroidCiv5 has too little depth.
01:08.48DrodoEmpireYeah, true; I just thought I'd rationalise why i didn't make it for it
01:09.05GD12It would also be rather difficult to model how disparate the techs are and generalkize their effects
01:09.26GD12I mean its easy for techs which are just bigger gunz or better factories but some of the more unique ones would haeh arder beenfits to model
01:09.27DrodoEmpireAnd yeah, exactly Tek; I like it but in comparison to EUIV.... Well, its like comparing Call of Duty (Civ) to Arma (EU)
01:09.31GD12hur
01:09.42MonetGD12: You may be interested in this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Monet47/Sporewiki_Fiction_Universe_-_The_Game
01:10.03GD12Ooh
01:10.09GD12Tempted to make extra long comment
01:10.48MonetGo nuts :)
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01:12.39OfficerJackalHello!
01:13.13DrodoEmpireHey!
01:14.56GD12right
01:14.58GD12just posted a comment
01:15.23GD12My comment says mod instead of game
01:15.36GD12Because if we are keeping core mechanics and not in it for the moeny
01:15.39GD12why not just make a mod?
01:19.55MonetHmm.
01:20.11DrodoEmpirehttps://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/733746_10151314675716314_1812288506_n.jpg - I can confirm this.
01:20.50MonetTHe fiction universe is massive so there has been heavy discussion about what game type we can best demonstrate the fictionverse, and there's also been talk as to when this would be set
01:21.21GD12An Attero Dominatus Strategy Game on one of the fronts might work well
01:21.28GD12Because if it's too big we'd get bogged down
01:21.34GD12It shouldn't be too ambitious
01:21.41DrodoEmpireIf I ever expand this to be an actual recreation of the Gigaquadrant map, that issue could be sidestepped with bookmarked dates
01:21.52DrodoEmpireBut that's a very specific example that would be fairly far-off
01:22.11GD12Also if we actually do want to make something practical it should be something where there is not lots of variance in overall tech
01:24.01GD12once we've proved we can make something simple, then we can move onto something more ambitious
01:24.42MonetThis was one of the hurdles we quickly discovered: The fictionverse is that massive
01:25.44MonetAs has been suggested, we could do what the Star Wars EU does and just focus on a bit of the universe at a time
01:26.18GD12Mount and Blade hur
01:26.21GD12that might work
01:26.24GD12theres a star wars mod for that
01:26.47GD12and we'd just need to edit in items/ships/characters
01:27.02GD12of course that would need animation
01:27.54GD12empire at war or sins would probably be our best bet for a total immersion thing
01:30.03Knight_AlienBy Sins do you mean sins of a solar empire?
01:30.19GD12yes
01:30.33Knight_AlienAlright just checking.
01:31.46GD12We'd already be pretty good immersion-wise if we just edited out the ship models for spore models
01:31.50GD12which i think we can export
01:32.01GD12Then just rename technologies and rebalance units
01:32.42GD12Same logic for Empire at War
01:32.49GD12Empire at War would also have the land combat goodness
01:33.03MonetI've seen some mods add more than three races, although when it comes to changing profile details it can be awkward as you can only see thre pictures
01:33.11Monetfor Sins
01:33.13OluapPlayerHad problems with one of my car's tires on the way home
01:33.26OluapPlayerThankfully I met this dude on the street who was super cool and helped me fix it
01:34.23GD12thats cool
01:34.39GD12Monet : Again we wouldn't want to overextend ourselves
01:35.18GD12Monet : But we can export Spore models right?
01:35.33MonetYeah we can
01:35.48Monetdrom has been working on an exported model recently
01:36.28GD12i've heard that we can only do creatures
01:36.31GD12not ships or the like
01:37.35GD12ahh
01:37.39GD12you can import ships to 3d max
01:37.45GD12which im assming can be translated tom aya
01:38.16OluapPlayerI remember seeing a Spore creature on Gmod once
01:38.31GD12you can export spore creatures using collado or something
01:38.36GD12but vehicles are a different story
01:38.43GD12they need some other shenangians to export iirc
01:38.49MonetGD12: Its fairly wasy I think. never tried it myself
01:38.56GD12However, one doesn't need to animate vehicles
01:40.22GD12that would take care of art except terrain, motion graphics and animation
01:47.48MonetWell, Wormy's been doing a video games design course
01:47.58GD12thats nice
01:48.06MonetAnd coming september I'll probably be working with maya
01:48.07GD12perhaps he could do this as a project :)
01:48.11GD12thats greatg
01:50.16MonetAnd we could use the unreal engine as a game engine
01:50.33MonetSince Wormy suggested we could use the Unreal development kit as a foundation
01:52.21GD12yeh
01:52.53MonetIf it is decided we make a whole game rather than just a mod, we'll need the aid of the whole community
01:53.24MonetWe already have artists, writers, animators, modellers and programmers among us
01:53.45Monet...and maybe the odd VA
01:55.05AngrybirdsI'm an actor. xD
01:55.15AngrybirdsI guess you could need one.
01:55.30AngrybirdsThe map of France just got a whole lot more complicated: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:France_map.png
01:55.32TekDroidI'm starting Software Engineering in the fall.
01:55.36AngrybirdsGD12
01:55.42GD12hmm
01:56.13TekDroidWhat happened to France? XD
01:56.15GD12odere
01:56.19GD12complexicated map
01:56.39AngrybirdsThoughts?
01:56.54MonetI think it was agreed among us that best we not start building the game until most of us are done at university.
01:57.23GD12aye
01:57.59GD12i cant judge maps
01:58.02GD12so ill just say gud
01:58.40MonetAngryBirds: Where the protectorates fade int othe main map, is that to show merging sovereignty?
01:58.53MonetLike a mix of French and protectorate colonies
01:59.39AngrybirdsEssentially. The boundaries are often vague, since those are enclaves which have varying levels of sovereignty and independence in accordance with the French Enclave system.
02:00.15GD12too complex stuff
02:00.26GD12dominatus - y u no just annex
02:01.17AngrybirdsFrance - I think that the fact that the whole galaxy declared war on you is evidence enough that that approach doesn't work.
02:01.27Angrybirdsgigaquadrant*
02:01.33DrodoEmpirehur
02:01.47GD12hur
02:02.00DrodoEmpirehttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/146/491/b90.jpg
02:02.08MonetI might have dome similar with the DI. In terms of expansion, most provinces are allowed ot expand at their own pace so long as they submit updated charts to the Imperial government
02:02.36MonetIts why I no longer list Draconid and provincial colonies, its all one big happy mashup now
02:03.03GD12thats cool
02:03.34AngrybirdsThere comes a point in the enclave system where an enclave is no longer allowed to found new sovereign colonies, and if they do so they are considered a part of France, not the enclave.
02:04.19MonetSo there's a small proportion of colonies in Quadrant DI space that are colonies of say...the New Val'Kar Imperium or the United Drallivian Republics
02:04.39Angrybirds^ That's what the Enclave system tries to avoid. xD
02:05.58TekDroidFarengeto is pretty much a federation of 5 semi-autonomous regions,  though that's more the result of growing over 5x in 10 years.
02:06.19MonetThis might be where the two differ since provinces of the DI are more or less members of the Imperium
02:06.51TekDroidAnd even the central region is federation of states that only formally unified around 20 years later.
02:07.05AngrybirdsI haven't explained this to Monet, so here's a quick summary: Nations and sovereign planets often find themselves encircled by French territory because the French expand so quickly. The French Enclave System is designed to help these planets and give them heavy incentive to join France. A nation must apply to the system, >
02:07.20Angrybirdsand as they graduate up the ranks (through applying for them), they gain benefits such as access to French territory, infrastructure, aid, technology, lifting of trade restrictions, etc.
02:08.13AngrybirdsIn return, they must progressively abide by French laws and give up some of their autonomy, though they get more and more representation in the French federal government the more sovereignty they give up.
02:09.05GD12dat smart
02:09.11GD12and thought out
02:09.13AngrybirdsUntil, finally, they can petition to join France as a whole, after which the enclave would be modernized and have access to every piece of technology France owns.
02:10.42AngrybirdsNaturally, some enclaves will take issue with some French laws or would just be incompatible, so they'd just stay as lower-level enclaves forever.
02:10.51MonetSounds much more gradual than the Imperium's system
02:11.28MonetAlthough under the DI system a province gets to keep its local laws and customs as well as abide a few over-arching Imperial ones
02:11.40AngrybirdsProbably. History has taught France that rapid integration can have drastic effects on one's economy and society.
02:12.16MonetAlso under the DI your empire's rep in the Grand Senate is a draconis, now one of your own envoys
02:12.54AngrybirdsThat's interesting, so you can't really be sure he'll represent your interests?
02:13.07AngrybirdsAlso, Monet: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140523010736/spore/images/8/85/Heer_Sketeevel_Confederation_Map.png Added your shipyard.
02:13.26MonetThat is the main drawback, yes
02:14.05MonetJust hope that he's trusting and that he or she is smart enough to know what happens when a bunch of locals start feeling ignored
02:14.27AngrybirdsOdere. xD
02:15.22MonetAlthough there's also talking ot your local praetor to get your voice heard.
02:15.41MonetThink of them as "lesser emperors"
02:17.19MonetThe english trnaslation of "paragavatus" (master king) isn't just to feed the ruler's ego
02:17.36GD12Monet : I've been looking through your deviantart and it has some prettygreat stuff
02:17.45AngrybirdsIt's a very nice-sounding title.
02:18.31MonetGD12: Thanks. I hope I can start selling my art locally soon
02:18.49MonetMaybe sign up to a few craft fairs
02:19.14AngrybirdsMonet: What do you think of the location of the shipyard?
02:20.00MonetVery convenient. I notice its in one of the regions that does not have a tribe insignia
02:20.17AngrybirdsIt does, it's just black and not very visible.
02:21.18MonetLooking closely the other insignia-less region does have a hard-to-see insignia
02:21.53AngrybirdsIt's the same tribe. xD I wish I could make it easier to see, but that would mean making it grey.
02:23.32MonetMaybe give the insignias a glow of some kind?
02:23.45AngrybirdsI'll try next time I work on that map.
02:23.53MonetOkay
02:24.05AngrybirdsIf the Draconis want to start doing business in the Neutrality zone, they might want to open up offices on Galactica, the capital of French Quadrantia, and the largest center of trade in the region.
02:24.29MonetSounds like an ideal palce for an office
02:25.30MonetI do like how commercial enterprises can  span many countries
02:25.46MonetTis a good way to spread influence and earn money
02:25.57AngrybirdsIndeed! French policy in the Quadrants over the past four years has been to set up their trade infrastructure and influence that of others in such a way that much of the wealth of the neutrality zone passes through Galactica.
02:26.04Angrybirds^
02:27.18MonetAnyway its late for me so goodnight
02:27.27MonetOr whatever time it is :)
02:27.48GD12night
02:27.55TekDroidIsn't it 2:27am over there?
02:27.56GD12bejeebus its like 3 17 there
02:28.01GD12327
02:28.05TekDroidGood night anyway.
02:28.09GD12night
02:29.41TekDroid...any time I remember to ask about Ezlangei and Farengeto-Draconid relations Monet is leaving. XD
03:05.24GD12cyal
04:20.35TekDroid~test
04:20.35infobotrumour has it, test is not funny
04:29.17Knight_Alienwow :D
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07:49.22Liquid_InkHello
07:53.48AdmiralPandahow's things?
07:59.26Liquid_InkPretty good
07:59.30Liquid_InkHow are things for you?
08:00.37AdmiralPandamore or less alright
08:03.06Liquid_InkMore or less?
08:05.27AdmiralPandawithout descending into the realms of self-pity, just a tad bit disappointed in how the D&D campaign has progressed on my end
08:10.19Liquid_InkI see
08:12.29AdmiralPandatomorrow will be the teller really, anyway that's all I'm gonna say on the issue
08:12.49Liquid_InkMake the final boss Tony Abbott
08:13.51Liquid_InkOr Gina Rhinehart
08:17.51AdmiralPandatempting but that'd give them too much credit
08:18.09AdmiralPandaplus it's impossible to make either of them a respectable figure deserving of the party's attention
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10:06.00Technobliteratoryou?
10:06.25AdmiralPandaI'm alright, decided Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance wasn't a wise investment
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13:25.01LawfulInsaneHello.
13:25.46LawfulInsaneWhich of the two Impys is the currently active Impy?
13:27.41GhelaeHello.
13:28.02GhelaeImperios was the most recent to show any activity, arriving here eleven minutes ago.
13:28.21ImperiosAy4e
13:28.24ImperiosImpyDroid = Phone
13:28.28ImperiosImperios = PC
13:30.55WormylonImperios has possibly the worst connection
13:31.06WormylonValader had the very worst
13:31.20ImperiosWE just happen to live in Vodkaland and Tacoland respectively
13:31.35WormylonAnd Dino (Beligium I think), chocoland
13:31.50WormylonHas a bad connection too
13:32.06ImperiosWhile the majority of SporeWikians are proud citizens of Fishandchipia
13:32.11LawfulInsaneFoodland naming, huh?
13:32.13WormylonLOL
13:32.34WormylonI'm very happy you said fish and chips
13:32.43WormylonAnd not fish and fries
13:32.48WormylonFries =/= chips
13:32.56LawfulInsaneIIn that case, I am a citizen of dimsumland.
13:32.58LawfulInsane*In
13:34.01LawfulInsaneChina.
13:34.15LawfulInsaneandnoIamnotcommunist.
13:34.31ImperiosYou're Cantonese
13:34.34ImperiosRight?
13:34.47LawfulInsaneYes.
13:37.18WormylonJust found about this upcoming indie game http://miscreatedgame.com/
13:40.32LawfulInsaneLooks interesting, sorry for delayed reaction.
13:49.37LawfulInsane(itakeitchathasstufftodo)
14:20.41ImperiosLawfulInsane: Hm
14:20.50ImperiosCan you speak Mandarin?
14:20.59ImperiosNot Cantonese, but standard Chinese
14:21.35LawfulInsaneYes.
14:22.00LawfulInsaneI study at an international school which teaches Mandarin and English.
14:22.14ImperiosAh I see
14:22.24ImperiosBTW do most Cantonese people speak English?
14:22.34LawfulInsaneNot quite sure.
14:22.51LawfulInsaneBut yes to some degree.
14:24.23Imperiosrite
14:24.32ImperiosSpeaking of China
14:24.48ImperiosWormylon Monet OluapPlayer Technobliterator: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140523142136/spore/images/8/87/Yurizenglong_Picture.png Added effects to this guy
14:24.50ImperiosRawr
14:25.52OluapPlayerLooked better with no effects imo
14:26.26MonetVery pearlescent
14:26.54MonetI think this makes him look more grandiose
14:27.00ImperiosYeah, speaking of this
14:27.28ImperiosLast night we and Hachi thought of there having been a Skyrim-like event at some point in Koldenwelt's history
14:27.33ImperiosLike 1000 years ago something
14:28.02Monet"Skyrim-like event"?
14:28.14ImperiosAs in, a war with the dragons
14:28.23ImperiosBasically it would involve this guy gathering various Kelodhres (from different species) and migrating north to fuck up the local Deiwos (mostly the Dryadali Sovereign)
14:29.12ImperiosStarting a fairly long war which would end up in this guy getting impaled on some big elven tower and the rest of the dragons either fleeing or staying in the Sovereign
14:29.29OluapPlayerAtrocius - look at all dis lunch
14:30.08ImperiosWould be funny if Klaxxa were among his horde
14:30.19OluapPlayerWhat's the purpose of this
14:30.19ImperiosKlaxxa - PIP POP CHEERIO, DIE ELVES
14:30.55ImperiosAs in the dragons' modus operandi or the purpose of the war out of universe
14:31.03OluapPlayerBoth
14:34.44ImperiosWell Yurizenglong would be a devotee of Alar'xashan and thus would probably want to subjugate the Deiwos to form an army capable of battling Caligaduro/Crux/Kalisearan
14:37.03MonetI remember reading that there was a time where dragons ruled Tamriel. WIthout the Voice, humans had no chance of surviving a war
14:37.50ImperiosOut of universe, the war would lay the foundation of the modern Sovereign and the Empire
14:37.52ImperiosHow?
14:38.00ImperiosBasically
14:38.17OluapPlayerHumans used to be slaves of dragons until Miraak showed up
14:39.09ImperiosAs elf numbers were relatively small, the elf leaders (especially the more asshole ones) came up with a genius strategy to fight dragons
14:39.25ImperiosThrow human slaves at them. Then throw MORE human slaves at them.
14:40.50ImperiosThis, coupled with the mass usage of human slave labour for rebuilding elven fortresses after the war eventually caused humans to go "fuk u elves" and rebel/secede from the Sovereign and the Sovereign itself to undergo a reformation to a more egalitarian government
14:41.00ImperiosGood idea?
14:44.40GhelaeIt's not like Koldenwelt doesn't have enough history that we could fill with events like this.
14:46.06MonetIts possible.
14:46.27ImperiosGhelae: So... you don't approve?
14:46.41ImperiosOr did I misunderstand you
14:46.42GhelaeNo, that's approval. Or at least a lack of disapproval. :P
14:46.55OluapPlayerI'm ok with it as long as my dragons aren't involved
14:47.00ImperiosWhy not?
14:47.06ImperiosI imagine there could be a few Fire Drakes in it
14:47.15ImperiosOr Asemath's sand drakes
14:47.31OluapPlayerFire Drakes would rather kill Yurizenglong for trying to order them around
14:47.44OluapPlayerAnd Asemath doesn't care for anything but the desert
14:47.50Imperiosrite
14:47.58ImperiosI imagine it'd be mostly Draonoggr
14:48.26GhelaeThe use of human slave labour makes the Sovereign of the time sound culturally a lot like the Orichalcum Elves, so that would also add to the continuity of Elvish history.
14:48.53ImperiosWell we agreed with Hachi that after the Ori Imperium got separated
14:49.03Imperiosthe Sovereign kinda snatched its slaves
14:49.15GhelaeThat makes sense.
14:49.46MonetImperios: If this is before Caligaduro goes smashy-smashy, perhaps there could be a lot of sky draeos
14:49.48Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS0IUTlq_gk Sovereign sees humans
14:50.03Imperios>before Caligaduro goes smashy-smashy as in, when?
14:50.10OluapPlayerImp said 1000 years ago
14:50.11Monet15000BNA
14:50.29MonetOh.
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14:50.45MonetSky draos have a low opinion of "land dwellers"
14:50.46OluapPlayerohi
14:50.54AdmiralPandahi
14:51.19ImperiosWell I am not exactly sre about Yurizeng's species
14:51.26ImperiosHe could in fact be a very large and ugly Draonoggr himself
14:51.47OluapPlayerMore like heavily deformed
14:52.46ImperiosWell yeah
14:54.03GhelaeHello.
14:54.51MonetA sky drao crusade would be a rarity this day and age
14:56.52GhelaeBased on vague similarities, I'd suggest he's related to the Lunsincth.
14:58.13ImperiosYes that's what I thought myself
14:58.17ImperiosThat and he has a Chinese name
14:58.26ImperiosSo he's probably an Asian dragon
14:58.38ImperiosDraonoggr - All hail our grorious reader!
14:58.58OluapPlayerProbably
14:59.01OluapPlayerHe's shaped like an eastern dragon
15:02.15MonetMaybe service under Alar'xashan deformed him?
15:05.11ImperiosYeah probably
15:05.18ImperiosSimulacrum service and whatnot
15:05.34ImperiosActually wait
15:05.42ImperiosThat would mean that serving Alar'xashan would make you Asian
15:06.15ImperiosWhen Wormy returns, remind me to ask him about making Yurizeng a Lunsincth
15:06.18MonetDoesn't have to
15:06.38ImperiosActually Technobliterator
15:06.52ImperiosCould Loron slaves perhaps join Yurizeng?
15:07.27ImperiosGhelae: By the way
15:07.44Imperioswhere did you take the word "Kelodhros" from? No PIE dictionaries show this word to me
15:08.01GhelaeI can't remember which dictionary I found it in, but I'll have a look.
15:08.12ImperiosAlso, do you remember the word's modern language descendants?
15:11.06GhelaeI think the Latin "coluber" might be one. Not exactly modern, but close enough.
15:11.21Technobliteratorhuh?
15:11.29GhelaeI got that from Wiktionary, which is one place where I thought I might have found it, but evidently not.
15:11.48GhelaeOh, but coluber has modern-day descendants too.
15:13.21ImperiosTechnobliterator: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140523142136/spore/images/8/87/Yurizenglong_Picture.png This guy once gathered an army made of dragons
15:13.27ImperiosCould some Lorons follow him too?
15:15.01GhelaeI can't even remember now if I was the one who came up with the name Kelodhros, or if it was Xho.
15:15.12GhelaeI've found two Google results for "Kelodhros" that aren't on SporeWiki.
15:15.29Ghelaehttp://books.google.co.uk/books?id=XFtbEd1ojBsC&pg=RA1-PA402&lpg=RA1-PA402&dq=kelodhros&source=bl&ots=QyTAzVzVw6&sig=MLq56EZrfsBBy9NtetUE1WkU1FM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=oGV_U9XHJoiO0AXL04DACg&ved=0CFwQ6AEwDTgK#v=onepage&q=kelodhros&f=false
15:15.34Ghelaehttp://archive.org/stream/AGrammarOfModernIndo-european/indoeuropean_djvu.txt
15:15.42GhelaeBoth give "coluber" as a descendant.
15:24.08dromImperios: http://i.imgur.com/1H3bTys.png
15:24.10Technobliteratorsure they could
15:26.56Imperiosdrom: "дерьмо" isn't used as an expletive
15:27.21Imperios"бля" is
15:27.34dromBlame it on the author, and I'm not the author of this.
15:32.30OluapPlayershit where's Hachi at
15:36.58AdmiralPandadunno
15:37.11AdmiralPandahaven't seen him in long time
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15:55.38ImperiosHi Wormy
15:55.44WormyHi
15:57.38ImperiosWormy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfPrQqbikb4 Half of my relatives live in Kazakhstan or Central Asia
15:57.42Imperios...And yet I find this video funny
15:57.45ImperiosWhat the hell is wrong with me
16:03.06WormyBorat is hilarious
16:03.17WormyIt it is taking the piss out of the West
16:03.27Wormynot East
16:03.33Wormyor CEntral
16:04.00WormyFunny scene where Borat gets anericans to cheer to "Bush's war *of* terror"
16:04.32ImperiosI find one thing funny
16:04.38WormyBorat  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsnbrtd8vE8
16:04.42Wormy*Imperiops
16:04.50ImperiosI am Borat now
16:05.46WormyHave you seen Ali G and Bruno?
16:05.53WormyAli G is better
16:13.12ImperiosOluapPlayer: What about wyverns and Poison Drakes?
16:13.28OluapPlayerThey're wildlife
16:14.05ImperiosI mean some could be tamed
16:14.25OluapPlayerNo hur
16:14.44OluapPlayerI said I don't want my dragons involved already
16:16.01Imperiosrite
16:17.46ImperiosWhy
16:18.13OluapPlayerBecause I'm not interested, stop asking
16:19.07Imperiosdum
16:19.14ImperiosWish I could do *something* that could interest you
16:25.10ImperiosActually what would you like me to work on nex
16:31.33OluapPlayerSorry i got distracted by a video
16:32.08OluapPlayerI got nothing in mind
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16:34.33ImperiosHi Xho
16:34.47XhoHi
16:34.50ImperiosXho: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140523142136/spore/images/8/87/Yurizenglong_Picture.png angry Chinese dragon
16:35.08XhoYurizen
16:35.13XhoIs this a William Blake reference
16:35.37OluapPlayerspu
16:35.38Imperiosnods
16:35.50XhoI should know since William Blake is my favourite artist
16:35.55ImperiosYurizeng = Urizen + Asian-sounding shit
16:36.04ImperiosThought it actually translated from Chinese
16:36.08ImperiosSomething like
16:36.11ImperiosBig-Sun-Hatred
16:36.15XhoOluapPlayer: u
16:37.04OluapPlayergo update paegs
16:37.12Xhodis not weekend
16:37.17Xhoweekend is saturday and sunday u
16:37.26OluapPlayerand friday 2
16:37.26ImperiosBasically this dude was an Alar'xashan-worshipping dragon warlord that gathered lots of Kelodhros and decided to wreck shit in the north
16:37.36XhoOluapPlayer: fuk ur shit
16:37.44OluapPlayerGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
16:37.57XhoImperios: Néva - STOOPID SOUTH MEN                           BREAKING DOWN OUR SHITTY WARR
16:38.18ImperiosWell north as in relatively north
16:38.25ImperiosDryadali Sovereign territory
16:38.54ImperiosXho: funny because, well, the dragon himself is pretty Chinese
16:39.19ImperiosActually I thought of his corpse *becoming* a Great Wall of China expy
16:41.39XhoCould work
16:41.44ImperiosBasic history plan I have
16:42.50MonetNig dragon then
16:43.10XhoInadvertent racism there hur
16:43.56Imperios>Dragon gather more dragons >Wrecks shit in the Sovereign (which at that time included human slaves as well) >Sovereign solves the problem of dragons by throwing lots of humans at them, kills Urizen >Afterwards humans are sent to rebuild elf cities >Humans go Martin Luther King on elves
16:44.06Imperios>
16:44.11XhoMartin Luther King
16:44.16Xhohao dafuq does dis work
16:44.21ImperiosOkay
16:44.25ImperiosGo Malcolm X on elves
16:44.40XhoWorks
16:44.42MonetI meant to say "big"
16:44.52OluapPlayerAtrocius should eat him hur
16:45.02ImperiosHuman - I have a dreeeeeeeeeeam that one day EVERY FUCKING ELF SHALL DIE
16:45.03XhoI was going to do something today Fantasy related
16:45.14OluapPlayerPelagrios stoof
16:45.24XhoWell that
16:45.30ImperiosOluapPlayer: ...hur that could actually work
16:45.36XhoI was going to rework a character page that I didn't ever use
16:45.54Imperios>elves defeat Yurizeng, leave him to die >afterwards Atrocius comes and noms him
16:45.59MonetJust played Just Cause 2.
16:46.06OluapPlayerIn theory a massive dragon horde would attract Atrocius
16:46.07MonetI think my head's still swimming with adrenalin
16:46.12OluapPlayerAnd he'd see this war as a massive banquet
16:46.36ImperiosHe could probably appear eating dragons, yeah
16:46.56OluapPlayerHe'd eat both sides, but he'd eat the dragon side the most hur
16:47.13OluapPlayerI'm thinking of remaking Atrocius
16:47.19OluapPlayerI feel like he looks silly right now
16:47.32ImperiosCould work
16:47.52XhoAtrocius - BAAAAAAAAW             Caligaduro - u look liek shit              Atrocius - ;A; baaaw
16:48.08OluapPlayerAtrocius - baaaw³
16:48.08ImperiosXho: I just realised
16:48.13ImperiosWe don't have Air Drakes
16:48.18ImperiosOr Sky Drakes, whatefver
16:48.25XhoIt's been mentioned in Terminus
16:48.26ImperiosActually I have a thought
16:48.37XhoOf their appearance, vaguely at least
16:48.39ImperiosCould Wormy's Lunsincth count as Sky/Air Drakes?
16:48.51ImperiosThey look more like normal dragons than draconic humanoids to me
16:48.54OluapPlayerI always pictured Air Drakes as four-winged wyverns
16:49.53OluapPlayerActually I believe we could have another Kelodhros classification for non-humanoid dragons who aren't True Drakes
16:50.09XhoHm
16:50.25XhoGreater Kelodhros then hur
16:50.33OluapPlayerCould be hur
16:50.36XhoLesser Kelodhros, Greater Kelodhros, True Kelodhros
16:51.10OluapPlayerdat works
16:51.22OluapPlayerThe Lunsincth can be upgraded to Greater
16:53.04OluapPlayerI think this is a good way of giving everyone the opportunity of making whatever dragon they want without having to worry about making them too similar to a Drake race
16:53.12OluapPlayerFire-breathing dragon who isn't a Fire Drake, etc
16:53.58XhoI imagine the True Kelodhros are probably the closest thing to Elementals
16:54.12OluapPlayerThey kinda are like Elementals yeah
16:54.29OluapPlayerGhelae Imperios: you two okay with this?
16:54.42ImperiosYeah
16:54.48GhelaeYes.
16:54.54Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3ANalozere_Sorenyro I'm going to rework this page from being a Kinmo disguise into an actual character
16:54.55OluapPlayeryey
16:54.57XhoProbably not a swordsman
16:55.17XhoI was thinking of a gangster or something, probably has run into Pelagrios a few times
16:55.18OluapPlayerI've never seen that page hur
16:55.45XhoThat character was going to be for WLLM but I eventually decided against it and made Vultusk
16:56.10AdmiralPandatime to make a nanomachine-fuelled androgynous Dread Pirate Roberts expy
16:59.53ImperiosActually Wormy
17:00.37ImperiosCould Yurizeng-long be a Luisincth? I imagine he could be a philosopher of his species that decided to abandon its peaceful ways and force harmony unto the world
17:01.00AdmiralPandaforce harmony unto the world
17:01.05AdmiralPandaPaarthurnax' tyranny of peace
17:01.49OluapPlayerdunt talk shi bout Paarthurnax
17:01.53OluapPlayerhe has Mario's voice
17:02.34AdmiralPandanot talkin shit about him, he's got the coolest autocracy ever
17:02.48AdmiralPandaI mean who the fuck else could come up with a "tyranny of peace"
17:02.52AdmiralPandabest dragon ever
17:02.55AdmiralPandaexcept martin
17:03.28XhoSheogorath - CHEEEEESE
17:03.28OluapPlayerI suppose peace can be a tyranny when you're a species of destroyers hur
17:03.33WormyImperios  yes
17:03.38OluapPlayerSantorakh - mein neger
17:03.49Xhoolol
17:03.55ImperiosYurizeng - I am not neger u
17:03.59XhoOh great now I need to make this character in Spore
17:04.02WormyI'm happy for him too if tht is what you are plannin
17:04.05Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Nalo_Soren Renamed and all of that
17:04.14OluapPlayerShrinked name dat
17:04.27Xhoaye
17:06.14OluapPlayerAnyone has anything against me adding Hyperion's dragons to the Kelodhros page?
17:06.55XhoNope
17:07.10XhoSlightly changed Nalo's information as well
17:07.23XhoHe's now a human who was born in Abyssus but defected from the Legion of Shiarchon
17:07.57OluapPlayerKalarah - ur a cheeky lil shit
17:08.26XhoBut for the most part he's a power-obssessed human
17:08.32Xhoobsessed*
17:11.40OluapPlayerThe lack of Hachi disturbs me
17:11.42OluapPlayerWhere's that dumbo
17:12.05ImperiosXho: Wait
17:12.08ImperiosThere are humans in Abyssus?
17:15.23AdmiralPandayeah I dunno what's going on with Hachi
17:15.39XhoYeah
17:15.46XhoHumans have been in Abyssus for thousands of years
17:17.39Imperiosrite
17:17.43XhoGranted their appearance has changed so they don't look like normal humans
17:17.49XhoWhat with toxic environments
17:18.11ImperiosSo, ugly humans]
17:18.13ImperiosUI
17:18.18ImperiosI was just about to inquire about their skin colour hur
17:19.54XhoWell, that's a good question since I don't know myself
17:20.03OluapPlayerAll
17:20.04XhoThey'd probably have orc-like skin
17:20.32ImperiosAs in Tolkien orc?
17:21.05XhoYeah
17:21.22Imperios"...they are (or were) squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, with wide mouths and slant eyes; in fact degraded and repulsive versions of the (to Europeans) least lovely Mongol-types."
17:21.26ImperiosSo yellow
17:21.57MonetA bit harsh
17:22.19MonetALthough I suspect the image is more Peter Jackson Orc
17:23.39MonetAlthough bear in mind Imp that harad and Rhun do bear strong Eastern connotations
17:23.48ImperiosBecause of this description I imagine orcs looking like my relative from Finland
17:23.56ImperiosHe was a complete asshole and looked ugly as fuck
17:24.01MonetProbably more Middle Eastern than Oriental
17:24.38ImperiosMiddle Eastern/Oriental
17:24.41ImperiosSo, Central Asian?
17:24.44ImperiosOrcs are now Borats
17:25.06OluapPlayerNgh
17:25.15MonetThe Haradrim do tame war elephants
17:25.19OluapPlayerI can't make a three headed creature without it looking like a person with puppets
17:25.30OluapPlayerbullshit i tell u
17:25.47ImperiosOrc - ALL OTHER PEOPLES HAVE INFERIOR POTASSIUM
17:25.51AdmiralPandahur
17:25.58MonetI think Harad may be India and Rhun may be Arabia
17:26.07AdmiralPanday u making three headed creature?
17:26.32OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3AAtrocius I'm remaking this guy
17:27.26AdmiralPandaI see
17:31.50AdmiralPandaI'm putting some more work into the Choir of Angels page
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17:39.51dromOy, yey. Xho is here. http://imgur.com/gallery/Iiyw1HO
17:40.57Wormyscawy
17:41.14Wormymore creepy in the human
17:41.44dromWormy: http://i.imgur.com/d9h0o07.jpg
17:43.51OluapPlayerhttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140523174332/spore/images/f/fa/Atrocius.png nu Atrocius
17:44.38MonetIt looks like he has heads for fists
17:45.25drom"Hey, there knuckleheads!"
17:45.27OluapPlayerI couldn't change that then
17:46.00Wormydrom:  http://data1.whicdn.com/images/90054057/thumb.jpg
17:46.34MonetSpore isn't great for multiheaded creatures
17:47.26OluapPlayerStill I hope the heads look less like puppets now
17:50.10dromWormy: I actually have a photoshoped schoolwork of a pug with nicolas cage's eyes and face.
17:52.36WormyI went into college once and saw Nicolas Cage desktop backgrounds on every computer staring at me
17:52.48OluapPlayerWhy can't my college be this cool
17:54.11AdmiralPandaat my high school, someone Caged the library, then someone else went through and set all the computers to high contrast mode
17:54.32OluapPlayerhttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/727/175/b7a.png
17:55.12ImperiosI remember putting a hot black girl on a school computer desktop
17:55.46AdmiralPandawhat is it with you and putting pictures of hot black girls everywhere?
17:56.52ImperiosWell
17:57.19Imperios<PROTECTED>
17:57.28AdmiralPandaI suppose
17:57.47MonetHad a look on Steam and discovered Watch_Dogs synopsis
17:58.21AdmiralPandaI'm an aussie panda so I'm all out of luck, I'm black, white, oceanic and asian
17:58.40ImperiosAs in, you in particular or Aussies in general
17:59.13MonetYou're a hacker, once a thug, something about the protagonist's past has led to a violent tragedy (murder) of his family and is now on the path to find out who was responsible
17:59.18OluapPlayerhttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/757/314/936.jpg
17:59.27WormyDon't spoil it for me
17:59.33MonetSo the plot is basically revenge.
17:59.46MonetAnd a manhunt
18:00.42WormyCan't stop watching this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YkhQSB334Q
18:02.53AdmiralPandahttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Choir_of_Angels new stuff on appearance and abilities
18:04.30dromWormy: http://imgur.com/gallery/uVk7F
18:05.35Wormyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zfJDhHb-EY
18:07.03WormyTea.  Earth Grey.  Hot
18:07.07Wormy*Earl
18:11.35WormyHow To Twerk Like Miley Cyrus  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYcg1ot1iWs&list=TLrcYNPdxvH5PzQgd1SfS4MWwd8Bto8pW0
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18:11.44AdmiralPanda_dum
18:20.42Xhohttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140523181958/spore/images/2/24/NaloSoren.png There we go
18:20.43GhelHello.
18:21.09OluapPlayerdat mask
18:23.47Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Agent_Nu%27s_Andromedan_City_Break first couple of chapters done
18:24.18Xhooho
18:26.23Wormyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ocGo98C3Bo
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18:28.03OfficerJackalHello1
18:28.05OfficerJackal!*
18:29.23GhelHello.
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18:32.22The_RandomnessHello everyone
18:33.41OluapPlayerohi
18:33.57The_RandomnessOluapPlayer: D&D tomorrow, right?
18:34.20OluapPlayerYeh
18:34.23The_RandomnessAww yes
18:34.45OluapPlayerYou can just assume we have D&D every saturday unless said otherwise hur
18:34.50The_Randomness:D
18:38.56ImperiosHm
18:39.04ImperiosAdmiralPanda_: Hm
18:39.23ImperiosWhat supernatural beings represent Lawful neutral in D&D
18:40.54ImperiosTechnobliterator: https://www.google.ru/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=g6w9NTOmdWD5XM&tbnid=ZQCEGeiA3sLWWM:&ved=0CAIQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Foldmanclub.org%2Fdota%2F_images%2F0218b2e5f9cf4e3ac5143aacb33938c9%2F1604%2520-%2520anti-mage%2520cartoon%2520edit%2520faceless_void%2520reference.jpg&ei=LZZ_U-_2KKjV4QTA1oDoCg&bvm=bv.67720277,d.bGQ&psig=AFQjCNFZ5MunqdTliX4E0_5tH4Wdna6qiQ&ust=1400956808446190
18:41.02Imperioshttp://oldmanclub.org/dota/_images/0218b2e5f9cf4e3ac5143aacb33938c9/1604%20-%20anti-mage%20cartoon%20edit%20faceless_void%20reference.jpg
18:41.50ImperiosGOD
18:41.53Technobliteratorseen
18:41.53AdmiralPanda_Imperios: by supernatural do you mean local plane or outer plane?
18:42.02ImperiosThe Russian government banned cyborgmatt's website
18:42.09ImperiosClearly Putin prefers League of Legends
18:42.14The_Randomnessgg
18:43.05ImperiosAdmiralPanda_: both
18:44.55Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Nalo_Soren There we go
18:47.00WormyI might have time to do fictipon tonight
18:47.07The_Randomness:o
18:47.26WormyProbably the DCP unleashing its new superweapons on the Tyranny
18:47.32The_RandomnessNice
18:48.17Wormywormhole firewalls, black hole super-radiance bombs, Brans-Dicke pitch drive mines, neutron effusion weapons...
18:48.18Xho“Return to where you belong.” - Harbinger
18:48.25XhoNalo - fuk off u flying catfish
18:48.44OluapPlayerHarbinger - git bak or dai
18:48.54The_RandomnessWormy: No such thing as overkill for the DCP, right?
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18:49.00DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
18:49.17WormyIndeed *winks*
18:49.19WormyHi
18:50.45AdmiralPanda_Imperios: you're basically looking at Axiomites, although there's the odd undead and occasional other outer plane entity
18:50.48AdmiralPanda_why do you ask?
18:51.05WormyMonet:  I realise this is potentially belittling.  If the DCP and DI go to war, and the DI becomes over-reliant on its wormhole nexus to get around the AI deadlock, could the DCP use a few wormhole firewalls to destroy fleet movements
18:51.50ImperiosAdmiralPanda_: Thinking of what creatures Alar'xashan could use
18:51.57ImperiosThen again being the creature of pure rationality
18:52.04ImperiosAnd pure stability
18:52.07WormyIt is supposed to be the DCP's last roar anyway before GC goes against them and they nearly collsapse
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18:52.22TekDroidHello
18:52.28ImperiosHe would probably be somewhat lacking in imagination so his servants would likely be repurposed Koldenweltian creatures
18:52.45ImperiosXho: quoted
18:52.57XhoI saw
18:53.16Xho“His tenacity and intelligence is most admirable. His craft, not so much. Still, the likes of him are often of use to the Empire...” - Javina Desertsun
18:53.24XhoNalo - ur not dat much better dan the shiarchon u kno
18:53.47ImperiosJavina - BITE MY SHINY INQUISITOR ASS
18:53.55XhoNalo - I would but mask
18:54.12ImperiosJavina - u better b woman under it
18:54.25WormyNow to find Leonard Susskind's paper on artificial wormhole firewalls...
18:54.45XhoI'm not quite sure what Nalo actually looks like under the armour and helmet
18:54.56XhoProbably like a flesh-draped burnt mannequin
18:55.05OluapPlayerLike a MeeM then
18:55.23XhoNalo - SooS
18:55.28XhoNaaN SooS
18:55.37OluapPlayerNan Sauce
18:55.46Xhoew
18:55.59Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgCdjc1oGOo Hm
18:56.08ImperiosCan you imagine Javina speaking with that voice
18:56.23XhoThose gloves may be mechanical/prosthetic since he may have lost his hands or fingers during the torture
18:56.29ImperiosProsthetic
18:56.32OluapPlayerEschaton needs to start so Shiarchon can do stuff and that means Kebra'Osos and Atrocius can also do stuff hur
18:56.33ImperiosWait hao
18:56.34Imperiosmagik
18:56.43Xhoyeh magik
18:56.52Xhofien i start eschaton in a sec
18:57.06OluapPlayerKalarah and his bodyguard slash jester
18:57.19XhoKalarah - DANCE, FOOL
18:57.28OluapPlayerKebra'Osos - rite *dances*
18:57.43Imperiosya
18:58.11ImperiosI have some plans for the Empire in Eschaton
18:58.22ImperiosThey are going to get into some SERIOUS shit this time
18:58.23OluapPlayerHm, is the Vulcanus Horde allowed into Abyssus now that they're allied with the Shiarchon?
18:58.32ImperiosDitto for the Klaxxa
18:58.44ImperiosThey're close to abyssus so you can guess
19:02.14XhoUnder regulations yes
19:02.47XhoKalarah doesn't trust Xacutus for the main reason that Xacutus is nuts
19:03.08OluapPlayerXacutus - i own dis turf now
19:04.53ImperiosI am going to have several storylines in Eschaton
19:05.06ImperiosOne related to the Klaxxa and the Ordnung
19:05.08ImperiosThe other to the Empire
19:05.16ImperiosThe third to the Endless Host
19:07.26OluapPlayerhttp://puu.sh/8XIta/72c87fa81b.png
19:08.45Xhoolol
19:09.36OluapPlayerKalarah - I would have you plead for your life, Sea Giant.             Xacutus - http://i.imgur.com/0ARtFa4.jpg
19:09.49Imperios...Alyona didn't put me in her best friends list in VK ;-;
19:11.56OluapPlayerhur
19:11.58AngrybirdsShe probably forgot. There are some people who are so close to me I don't think of them as friends anymore, they just are.
19:14.50DrodoEmpiretest
19:14.56OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqlHdPlHK_s this plays during the Endless Host plot
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19:16.57ImperiosThere should be a fantasyverse version of South Korea so that the Endless Host could conquer it and then raise its entire population from the dead to dance this
19:19.20ImperiosAnd yeah we'll learn more about the Endless Host and the Outworld during the story
19:24.36DrodoEmpirehttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/25918_516429141732665_1659038000_n.jpg
19:25.40ImperiosI'd show this to Alyona but it's not inet-worthy
19:25.50ImperiosAs in...
19:25.51Imperioseh..
19:25.52Imperiosnvm
19:26.09OluapPlayerNo I don't think that'd captivate her hur
19:27.14ImperiosThen again
19:27.31ImperiosTwo of these people sought to exterminate my ancestors hur
19:27.44ImperiosHm
19:27.45ImperiosRandom fact
19:27.57ImperiosKim Jong Il's birth name was Yuri Irsenovich Kim
19:28.33DrodoEmpireHuh
19:28.40DrodoEmpireInteresting
19:29.23ImperiosAlyona has that strange tendency to speak in anime gifs
19:29.29Imperioshttp://vk.com/doc49656023_300658000?hash=47f3a2fd08c4c6f947&dl=70a74ceb5120aff0a6&wnd=1 How am I supposed to interpret that dam u
19:31.14Wormylol
19:31.40WormyMaybe a loss of concentration, a distraction?
19:33.33The_Randomness<INSUFFICIENT INFORMATION FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER>
19:33.44OluapPlayerJust say "i luv u 2 bby"
19:33.49The_Randomnesshue
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19:40.34TekDroidHello
19:41.03The_RandomnessHello
19:41.41GhelHello.
19:43.15AdmiralPanda_brb
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19:43.49Flashduckhello
19:43.53Flashducklong time no see
19:44.15GhelHello.
19:47.01WormyLol the 80's must have been a messed up time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3SEZo3yRN4
19:49.55TekDroidWell that's just great... my laptop charger broke again.
19:50.52TekDroidThe warranty means getting a replacement/repair would take two weeks. -.-
19:52.52ImperiosWormy: I just thought of something
19:53.05ImperiosMy mom has relatives in Kazakhstan, and they have Skype so we can talk
19:53.12ImperiosShould I show Borat to them?
19:55.00WormyI don't know
19:55.09WormyDepends on their personality
19:55.33WormyIf they are layed back, and possibly free spirited, they may find it funny and see that it is a joke on the West
19:56.00WormyOr it might make them mad
19:56.13WormyOr maybe, they just don't find that kind of comedy funny
19:57.51WormyYou might want to explain what it is first
19:59.08Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxR-OKjhGDg The actual Kazakhstan anthem is surprisingly epic
20:02.57OluapPlayer5pm, still no Hachi
20:03.08OluapPlayerLife is suffering
20:04.13ImperiosWormy: http://cs407717.vk.me/v407717553/12ea/c0C5EYc479c.jpg That's how Kazakhs actually look like hur
20:04.38WormyStill generalising :P
20:05.17WormyYou can portray them as in Borat, or as like that, just two ends of a spectrum
20:05.24drombrb rendering a poster in SFM.
20:07.50ImperiosI googled for "hachi"
20:07.58ImperiosAside from "Hachiko", I got hentai and racist pictures
20:08.13OluapPlayerHalf of it fits
20:09.03XhoHm same here
20:09.08XhoCute dog though
20:10.53OluapPlayerwoof
20:12.28OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEef05EMoHc have an old thing
20:13.08XhoNever seen this before
20:13.25OluapPlayerPelagrios with no rum
20:14.15ImperiosKazakhstan does not actually have many Jews, by the way :3 Their place is taken by Koreans and Germans
20:14.19ImperiosSo... yeagh
20:14.31ImperiosMy relatives atre the ones to be thrown down the well
20:14.40OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnAEmkPIEW0 and dis
20:19.33AdmiralPanda_this lack of Hachi is disturbing
20:21.18GhelI'd suggest it's Hachi's revenge for when Oluap wasn't here a few days ago, but he would have caved in by now.
20:21.18OluapPlayerI hope he's alright
20:21.30OluapPlayer;-;
20:22.12AdmiralPanda_^
20:22.39OluapPlayerI want muh hachi back
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20:24.35Hachimanhai
20:25.25AdmiralPanda_speak of the devil
20:25.31AdmiralPanda_we were getting worried
20:25.39HachimanSorry
20:25.41OluapPlayerHACHI
20:25.44HachimanWent to London Comic-Con
20:25.50AdmiralPanda_tackle-hugs Hachi through the nearest wall into OluapPlayer
20:25.51OluapPlayercuddles Hachiman
20:26.11XhoWhen did you two get so friendly
20:26.14AdmiralPanda_oh you should have told me you were going, I would have asked you to throw something at my favourite you tuber :P
20:26.19Hachimanhue
20:26.27OluapPlayerI was distressed without you here ;A;
20:26.34Hachimanaww ;A;
20:26.40XhoMy god get a room
20:26.53OluapPlayerThat's exactly what I want hur
20:27.08HachimanSaw like tons of cosplayers
20:27.20OluapPlayerHachiman: http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/ike.html he bak
20:27.25AdmiralPanda_any good ones?
20:27.41HachimanYeah, I saw two sisters dressed as Satsuki and Ryuko
20:27.46HachimanIn Junketsu and Senketsu
20:27.55HachimanWith their respective weapons
20:28.00AdmiralPanda_nice
20:28.15AdmiralPanda_any Yokos?
20:28.25HachimanNo Yokos but I did see a Kamina
20:28.36HachimanAnd tons of Survey Corps peeps hur
20:28.39AdmiralPanda_huh, there's usually a Yoko somewhere
20:28.56HachimanProbably will be tomorrow
20:29.04HachimanThough I'm not going tomorrow
20:29.12HachimanI went with the college hur
20:29.16ImperiosHi Hachiman!
20:29.19OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5uuSHkdxNA I'm so confused
20:29.36AdmiralPanda_one of my favourite cosplay photos ever, at one comic-con there was some sort of potato restaurant, and there was a photo of like six-seven Recon Corps dragging Sasha away
20:29.40ImperiosHachiman: [[file:Yurizenglong.png]] Have an upgraded angry dragon
20:29.40morgothBotPyImperios meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/file:Yurizenglong.png
20:29.43Imperiosactually wait
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20:29.52Imperios[[file:Yurizenglong_Picture.png]]
20:29.52morgothBotPyImperios meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/file:Yurizenglong_Picture.png
20:29.53ImperiosDere
20:30.14HachimanImperios: noic
20:30.22OluapPlayerHachiman: chek Ike dumbo
20:30.29Hachimansaw dis
20:30.31Hachimanlike dis
20:30.35HachimanMy main hur
20:31.20ImperiosI found a photo of Alyona that I can show to you
20:31.37HachimanI bought a Death Guard shirt at the Con]
20:31.42HachimanAnd some MGR dog tags
20:32.25AdmiralPanda_Randomness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI0LICpjMkI&index=34&list=UU9YLd0REiXxLqQQH_CpJKZQ this when you lose to a troll comp
20:32.53ImperiosHachiman: You'll probably get sick tomorrow
20:33.05Hachimanhue
20:33.11ImperiosUnless you pray to Nurgle, in that case you'll get sick, rot from the inside, and enjoy the process
20:33.20HachimanMy friend also bought pocky for everybody
20:34.06XhoWhat did I just watch
20:34.31OluapPlayerI wish I knew
20:37.14HachimanNext time I go to a Con I wanna dress up as Jon Snow
20:37.18HachimanBecause I know nothing
20:37.33XhoNOOOH
20:39.06HachimanI saw a fat guy dressed in a Pikachu onesie
20:39.40The_RandomnessAdmiralPanda_: Watching that right now
20:40.02AdmiralPanda_if I ever go to a con I'm not sure who I'd cosplay
20:40.05AdmiralPanda_probably Sebastian
20:40.21XhoI'd probably have to go as some evil character
20:40.27XhoWhich usually makes the costumes hard
20:40.54The_RandomnessJust reminded me of this Nasus mid that completely stomped this Yasuo mid
20:41.10AdmiralPanda_dat dun't make sense
20:41.16AdmiralPanda_the yas must have been bad
20:41.24The_RandomnessHe ragequit
20:41.34AdmiralPanda_rite
20:41.36The_RandomnessThe Yasuo, that is
20:41.39The_Randomnessrip
20:41.43AdmiralPanda_cus normally a yas would win that matchup
20:42.08The_RandomnessYeah, although it's not quite as bad as most mid matchups I think, since they're both melee
20:42.40The_RandomnessThis also reminds me of a Wukong mid in ranked that completely stomped an Akali
20:42.41dromTotalBiscuit got a full-blown cancer.
20:42.43OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/zwCAOZy.png is true
20:43.07The_Randomnessdrom: Youtube comments confirmed as carcinogenic
20:43.45HachimanThat reminds me, I was informed by a friend today that my old IT tutor has lung cancer
20:43.48HachimanMade me sadfaic
20:44.00AdmiralPanda_OluapPlayer: Hur
20:44.15The_RandomnessHachiman: D:
20:44.34dromHachiman: Sucks to hear. *pats on your shoulder*
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20:45.18OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/v/1400877013512.jpg me until 20 minutes ago
20:45.39The_Randomnesshur
20:46.11ImpyDroidHachiman: I found Anti-Mage/Faceless Void yaoi pics
20:46.16ImpyDroidNo, seriously
20:46.32OluapPlayerI don't want to know what you were looking for to find that
20:46.32Hachimanohgod
20:46.47ImpyDroidWant to know?
20:46.51ImpyDroidEnchantress
20:47.04OluapPlayerI said I didn't dumbo lern 2 reed
20:47.42ImpyDroidHachiman: http://oldmanclub.org/dota/_images/0218b2e5f9cf4e3ac5143aacb33938c9/1604%20-%20anti-mage%20cartoon%20edit%20faceless_void%20reference.jpg
20:47.43ImpyDroidDere
20:48.21HachimanNGH
20:48.34OluapPlayerWhat are you doing
20:48.52AdmiralPanda_do I want to know?
20:48.58OluapPlayerDo I have to kick you or what
20:49.08AdmiralPanda_I'm gonna take that as a no
20:50.26ImpyDroidWait, is that kick material
20:50.35ImpyDroid?
20:51.15ImpyDroidHachiman: Hachiman: http://img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/Dota-%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5-windrunner-drow-ranger-598174.png Here, that will mend your mind
20:51.46HachimanDammit Imp stop showing porn
20:52.00ImpyDroidHow is that porn
20:52.08ImpyDroidIt's just two girls
20:52.17ImpyDroidhttp://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/049/b/e/drow___windrunner_by_artofhkm-d5vd2bm.png Rite, that. Better?
20:52.17AdmiralPanda_the only thing stopping that from being porn is the clothes
20:52.19The_RandomnessI'm out, see you guys later
20:52.32OluapPlayerGo to private chat damnit
20:52.56ImpyDroidritw
20:53.08ImpyDroidI don't get SporeWiki censorship rules
20:53.20ImpyDroidTwo clothed girls are not fine, tapeworms are :P
20:53.43OluapPlayerYou posted yaoi on public chat
20:54.12ImpyDroid...There was no real nudity there and it was humorous
20:54.23OluapPlayerWhy did you call it yaoi then
20:54.52ImpyDroidHow else could I call it
20:55.03OluapPlayerSomething that doesn't imply gay sex
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20:56.50Hachiman_dumternet
20:56.58ImpyDroidIt was a parody of Yaranaika
20:59.04ImpyDroidrite
20:59.17ImpyDroidCan we forget about Anti-Straights now
20:59.19ImpyDroidVery well
20:59.37ImpyDroidHachiman: http://lurkmore.so/images/d/d5/Game_of_thrones_Maydan.png Game of Ukraines
21:00.22HachimanHeh
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21:01.49ImpyDroidhttp://lurkmore.so/images/5/5f/Maidan_Games.jpg
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21:02.00The2ndplayerSup
21:02.31The2ndplayerAnyone there?
21:02.41Knight_AlienHello
21:02.46The2ndplayerGreetings
21:03.12The2ndplayerI came here to ask if you guys know of any mods that make the cell stage larger
21:03.34The2ndplayerOr atleast something similar to the cell stage in terms of gameplay
21:08.20The2ndplayerAnyone?
21:08.29The2ndplayerPlease. :(
21:08.32HachimanNope
21:08.37HachimanWe know nothing
21:08.38The2ndplayer:(
21:09.00The2ndplayerWhy does the best part of Spore have to be so short?
21:09.26HachimanCell Stage is hardly the best bit
21:09.40The2ndplayerIts just my opinion
21:09.41HachimanSubjective matter though
21:10.07The2ndplayerVVhat do you think is the best then?
21:10.30XhoI'd have to say Creature
21:10.33HachimanEh I dunno, probably Creature
21:10.47HachimanCreature remains somewhat true to the original aspect of Spore anyway
21:11.11The2ndplayerMy problem with creature is that theres no real worry
21:11.25The2ndplayerNo evolution
21:11.41The2ndplayerIts too 1 track
21:12.29TekDroidAnd cell stage isn't?
21:12.29AdmiralPanda_that's kinda the same with every stage though, to be quite frank
21:12.29The2ndplayerBefriend this or kill this
21:12.39MonetI like the space stage
21:12.45The2ndplayerCell stage is a little different
21:12.51The2ndplayerTactics change
21:12.54AdmiralPanda_personally my favourite is city
21:12.59The2ndplayerYou have to learn to think differently
21:13.00HachimanCell Stage is just either kill or get kileld
21:13.08HachimanYou don't learn anything
21:13.15The2ndplayerKinda do
21:13.17HachimanYou either stay out of a creature's way or kill it
21:13.30The2ndplayerOr build a cell that wont die
21:13.53TekDroidThere's sort of an extended cell stage in this one iOS app they made.
21:13.55HachimanSame concept as Creature then
21:14.01Technobliteratorto be frank, Spore's gameplay is mediocre outside possibly the Space Stage
21:14.03HachimanExcept Creature has expanded mechanics
21:14.05Technobliteratorthe editors are the best part of Spore
21:14.10HachimanYeah
21:14.12The2ndplayerNot really
21:14.30TekDroidEditors are the best part for sure.
21:14.31The2ndplayerIt just adds a few new shiny icons.
21:14.48HachimanCan you befriend cells in the Cell Stage?
21:14.54ImpyDroidNo
21:14.56TekDroidNope.
21:15.20The2ndplayerCan you shoot electricity in the creature stage?
21:15.32HachimanDo you get the option to maintain relationships between packs in the Cell Stage?
21:15.49TekDroidYou can shoot poison in the creature stage.
21:15.50HachimanYou obviously know nothing about game mechanics outside of aesthetic
21:15.59The2ndplayerCan you take down something 20x your size without having to kite it in the creature stage?
21:16.15HachimanYep
21:16.17AdmiralPanda_you have to kite in cell stage too
21:16.18The2ndplayerAlso I'm a guy who likes beauty and art
21:16.20TekDroidYou can't do that in cell stage either.
21:16.20AdmiralPanda_one bite kills you
21:16.31The2ndplayerOver complexity can ruin that
21:16.42The2ndplayerNot really
21:16.46HachimanYou can just lure an Epic to your home base and watch your pack kill it
21:16.52AdmiralPanda_^
21:16.56AdmiralPanda_hehe cheap tactica
21:17.15ImpyDroidHachiman: Furthermore
21:17.18The2ndplayerIts not one bit kills you
21:17.22ImpyDroidIt'll get trapped there
21:17.28The2ndplayerIts more like if your an idiot you die
21:17.30AdmiralPanda_it is if you're fighting an epic cell
21:17.36TekDroidCreature was always the part I found hardest (albiet partially due to a crash bug)
21:17.44HachimanI'm not gonna argue with a kid
21:17.51The2ndplayerI mean who is stupid enough to literally swim right into the creatures mouth.
21:18.05The2ndplayerAlso now you're just resorting to insults
21:18.22TekDroidThat's hardly an insultm
21:18.27HachimanYou're obviously too inexperienced to identify the differences and expansion of mechanics in between stages
21:18.37HachimanOutside of aesthetic
21:19.13The2ndplayerHachiman why dont you just acknowledge the fact that maybe people have different taste then you
21:19.26The2ndplayerAnd maybe having different taste doesn't make them any less experienced
21:19.28HachimanIt's not a matter of taste
21:19.38HachimanIt's a matter of acknowledgement and identification
21:19.41AdmiralPanda_the points you're raising are flawed
21:19.43The2ndplayerI play games to enjoy the world
21:19.45AdmiralPanda_that's what Hachi's trying to get at
21:19.54HachimanIt's a fact that the Creature stage is more expanded in terms of mechanics than the Cell stage
21:20.07HachimanThus I find the Creature stage more interesting to play
21:20.12AdmiralPanda_anyway didn't you just say you were done with the conversation Hachi?
21:20.16HachimanOh I was
21:20.33HachimanBut then he tried to get smart
21:20.34HachimanAnd failed
21:20.38The2ndplayerCan we just agree that we both like what we like and that its all just a matter of opinion
21:20.49The2ndplayerBecause in all honesty arguing opinions is stupid
21:20.59HachimanBut it's not a matter of opinion when you're denying a fact
21:21.08HachimanThe Creature stage IS more expanded than the Cell stage
21:21.12The2ndplayerI'm not denying any face
21:21.19The2ndplayerI never said it wasn't
21:21.20HachimanAnd has both expanded and different mechanics
21:21.24MonetHe has his favourite stage, you like yours
21:21.32MonetAfter all, Flappy Bird is a massive hit
21:21.41AdmiralPanda_I'm going to go work on campaign stuff, call me when you're done
21:21.49The2ndplayerI've had this argument before and it lasted for days
21:22.02The2ndplayerSo lets stop
21:22.12HachimanWhile I like the Creature stage, I'm not exactly biased because if anything the Cell stage is just a tutorial in preparation for the Creature stage
21:22.34TechnobliteratorI'm confused, where's the argument? as far as I can tell, it was not personal until 2ndplayer took it personally
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21:25.33AdmiralPanda_I'm with Techno on this one, not quite sure where the line went from factual to personal
21:25.46ImpyDroidCell Stage has its charm
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21:26.47HachimanIt has a charm but it's little more than a designated tutorial
21:27.44The2ndplayer"You're obviously too inexperienced to identify the differences and expansion of mechanics in between stages"
21:27.53The2ndplayerThats when its got personal
21:28.29ImpyDroidJust let him like what he wants
21:28.39The2ndplayerDifferent taste=/=less experience
21:28.39ImpyDroidI for one prefer Space :P
21:28.54XhoThat wasn't the smartest comment I've ever seen
21:29.16The2ndplayerTo whom are you reffering
21:30.52Xho"You're obviously too inexperienced to identify the differences and expansion of mechanics in between stages"
21:31.08XhoNot the best thing you could have said Hachi to be honest
21:31.15HachimanMeh
21:31.18Hachiman"[22:13] <The2ndplayer> It just adds a few new shiny icons."
21:31.29XhoHow about
21:31.31XhoWe stop arguing
21:31.33XhoAnd get along
21:31.34HachimanYes because Creature Stage is just Cell Stage with a few extra buttons
21:32.09The2ndplayerMoving on
21:33.24TekDroid:/ So it seems my laptop charger AND battery are both screwed up.
21:33.53Technobliteratormoving on
21:34.09Technobliteratorcan any non-chrome users check the main page now? Wikia contacted me again, and it seems to be fixed
21:34.17ImpyDroidFrankly, an isometric arcade and a rudimental action-RPG are inconparable
21:34.26ImpyDroidBut that's just my grain of salt
21:36.37HachimanSo, half-term now
21:36.38HachimanWooo
21:36.41Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Agent_Nu%27s_Andromedan_City_Break for those who may not have seen
21:37.44MonetI like how Nu shuns Draconis despite being rude himself.
21:37.51MonetDraconis for being rude*
21:38.18XhoNu in a nutshell really
21:38.30XhoHachiman: Oh my sweet summer child what is this half term you speak of
21:39.05HachimanJust a week long break hur
21:39.21HachimanLess college the better
21:39.30MonetNo half terms for uni students
21:40.27XhoOR PEOPLE WHO BLOODY WORK
21:40.31Xhokicks Hachiman
21:40.33XhoWORK DAMMIT
21:40.40TechnobliteratorI work and go to college :(
21:40.51Technobliteratormind you I did just finish all my hard exams
21:40.52Hachimanngh
21:41.24XhoI dunno why you would work and go to college
21:41.53XhoI probably would have developed psychosis by now if that was the case back then
21:41.55HachimanExactly
21:42.38GhelTechnobliterator: The main page is still not showing the Spore font in either IE or Firefox.
21:43.29AdmiralPanda_where should it be showing spore font?
21:43.35Technobliteratorthe main page
21:43.45AdmiralPanda_I mean where on the main page
21:43.48Technobliteratorthe font should be enabled to work like any main font
21:43.49Technobliteratorurm
21:43.51XhoI bet it does appear and Ghel just hates it
21:44.00XhoWhich is good because it looks stupid still
21:44.09Technobliterator"Welcome to SporeWiki!" for a start
21:44.14AdmiralPanda_I can see it on "Welcome to Sporewiki" and "Featured Article"
21:44.26Technobliteratorwhat browser do you use?
21:44.32AdmiralPanda_Safari
21:44.39AdmiralPanda_yeah it's showing on each heading for me
21:44.41Technobliteratoroh, hm
21:44.57TechnobliteratorGhel: sure it's not a caching issue? I've been told that might be it
21:45.02Technobliteratoralternatively, using .otf
21:45.17GhelI've been deleting my caches every time. But you should ask somebody else to check with IE/Firefox.
21:45.38Technobliteratorwell, I don't know who uses firefox
21:46.15GhelI don't; I just have it installed in case I choose to use it for whatever reason.
21:46.30GhelI think Liquid said he used Firefox (and he didn't see the Spore font either).
21:50.14GhelI'm going to go now. Bye!
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21:58.01XhoWhat I find strange about Robert Baratheon is that he wanted all of the Targaryens dead
21:58.09XhoAlthough he himself had Targaryen blood in him
21:58.22AdmiralPanda_that's probably part of the reason
21:58.37AdmiralPanda_his self-loathing would hasten his efforts
21:59.44HachimanYeah when I saw the bloodlines I was kinda "oh"
21:59.58HachimanAlso I am convinced that Jon Snow is Daenerys' nephew
22:00.16AdmiralPanda_Jon is older than Dany
22:00.25Xhodat got u
22:00.30HachimanDoesn't matter
22:00.36HachimanYou can be younger than your nephews/neices
22:00.38Hachiman*nieces
22:00.47AdmiralPanda_oh right wrong word
22:00.55Hachimanlel
22:01.28AdmiralPanda_I just like the idea that he's the bastard of some random whore Ned slept with when he was bored on campaign
22:01.29HachimanFor me, and loads of other people, Jon Snow is Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryan's child
22:01.36Hachimanhue
22:01.55HachimanThen again Rhaegar Targaryan for me is <3
22:02.08AdmiralPanda_Rhaegar was indeed awesoome
22:03.07XhoIt's feasible
22:03.40HachimanJon is described as having more Stark features than the other Stark children due to the latter being of Tully blood
22:04.13HachimanThough I dunno what he would have inherited from Rhaegar
22:04.21HachimanHe doesn't look Targaryan at all
22:04.23AdmiralPanda_knowing nothing?
22:04.27Hachimanolol
22:04.42XhoRhaegar was apparently very intelligent
22:04.45XhoSo probably a Stark thing
22:04.46AdmiralPanda_but seriously, from what I can tell most Targaryan features are recessive, so they're probably just hidden
22:04.55AdmiralPanda_Xho: Yeah, Starks in general know nothing
22:05.09HachimanAs evidenced by Sansa, Ned, Jon, etc
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22:08.00Hachiman_Fucking internet
22:09.13Hachiman_I'd love it if Jon and Dany end up meeting and performing incest
22:09.17Hachiman_Well, I wouldn't love it
22:10.24XhoI doubt they'll ever meet
22:11.24XhoBut man Robert Baratheon
22:11.30Hachiman_Aye
22:11.53Hachiman_Shame his son's a cunt
22:11.57XhoHis grandmother was Jaehaerys II's sister
22:12.00Hachiman_Well, I doubt Joffrey's his son
22:12.12Hachiman_He looks nothing like a Baratheon
22:12.14XhoYou don't know who is father is?
22:12.22XhoHow much of Game of Thrones have you watched
22:12.24Hachiman_I'm gonna assume Jaime
22:12.36Hachiman_Eh just starting Season 2
22:12.46XhoAll of Cersei's kids were fathered by Jaime
22:12.52Hachiman_Geezush
22:12.57Hachiman_Cersei's fucked
22:13.04Hachiman_Quite literally and mentally hur
22:13.32XhoAnd incest is common in the Targaryen line as well
22:13.39XhoDaenerys and Viserys were products of incest
22:13.42Hachiman_ew
22:13.57Hachiman_I do wonder how these guys look so attractive if they all commit to incest
22:14.06XhoTargaryen logic
22:17.09dromSFM arte: http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/143/c/c/company_by_dromlexer-d7jgkmq.png
22:17.14AdmiralPanda_incest only causes problems if you allow genetic flaws to be retained
22:22.14Hachiman_So that means breeding with your attractive sibling means attractive young?
22:22.56AdmiralPanda_potentially, yeah
22:23.16AdmiralPanda_depends on the features in question
22:28.28Xhohttp://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/2/20/Gregor_Clegane_Nordheimer.jpg This is a pretty good image
22:29.04AdmiralPanda_have you seen the actor they're getting to play the Mountain?
22:29.31XhoYeah
22:29.42Technobliteratorokay time's up
22:29.44Technobliteratorbyees
22:29.58AdmiralPanda_he's huge man, like Cersei is the perfect height to suck his nipples huge
22:30.03Xhohttp://24.media.tumblr.com/52252d8ccbfa614b294a349037a2f9e0/tumblr_muffdxeoXF1qis07wo1_500.jpg Says it all really
22:30.44MonetForget "the mountain" that dude's the Himalayas!
22:30.45Wormyoh dear http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1k34ue/people_that_have_been_hypnotized_what_was_your/
22:30.48XhoI dunno if they'd ever find an actor who is 8ft tall
22:30.58XhoI mean the actor for Clegane is 6'10"
22:30.59Wormyread top comment
22:31.24XhoWormy: "Alpha as fuck"
22:32.45AdmiralPanda_they don't have to find an actor 8ft tall, they just have to find a guy who's 50% taller than everyone else in the cast
22:33.05Hachiman_Gregor Clegane is GoT's Gamagoori
22:33.16AdmiralPanda_Gamagoori just chooses how tall he wants to be
22:34.08Monethttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ames_room they could always shoot the actor in one of these
22:38.40XhoTrue
22:39.03XhoAlthough I think it would be more effective if they did portray an 8ft tall Gregor
22:39.51XhoMy friend has just pointed out that in four seasons, Gregor Clegane has only said five words
22:39.56MonetThe ames room was how they portrayed gimli and the hobbits as being so short.
22:40.08Xho"Who am I fighting?" and "SWORD!"
22:40.44MonetI read that gimli's actor in real life is actually taller than Orlando Bloom
22:40.58AdmiralPanda_huh
22:41.22AdmiralPanda_five centimetres
22:43.10Hachiman_I don't think Gregor is a guy who needs to talk much
22:43.20Hachiman_Actions speak louder than words after all
22:44.51XhoYeah and is actions aren't nice hur
22:45.12Xhohttp://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID21681/images/tallest_man.jpg That's probably how tall Gregor would be proportionally with the tallest guy in the world
22:45.16XhoAnd Al Roker of course
22:46.15Hachiman_I remember the scene in Season 1 where he almost completely beheads his horse
22:46.32XhoSWORD
22:46.49XhoI think Gregor's gone through three different actors
22:46.58XhoTwo of them were 7'1" and the current one is 6'10"
22:47.33XhoI wonder what life would be like being nearly seven feet tall
22:47.42XhoThe tallest guy I know is 6'6"
22:47.55XhoAnd well I kinda feel small next to him
22:49.54XhoThe guy who plays Sandor is also 6'6"
22:53.49TekDroidI'm 6' 2" and almost always the tallest.
22:54.17WormyThere was a student who was 6'7 in my college
22:54.27XhoI'm 6'0" and I feel tiny still somehow
22:54.41XhoWell, 5'11"/6'0" border
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22:55.09WormyLast I measured I was 5'8, but that was three to four years ago
22:55.28WormyI might be an inch or so higher maybe
22:55.34WormyMen grow intio their 20s
22:55.45XhoAs far as I can tell I'm nearly 6' 2" in my boots but then again they're big boots
22:56.25XhoIf I had to be an ideal height, I'd go for 6'3" and leave it at that
22:56.41XhoI mean even at the 6' borderline I'm still taller than most people
22:57.26TybusenI'm 5'8" or 5'9"
22:58.03WormyI have a feeling I'm still growing
22:58.25WormyI've grown out of some of my clothes recently
23:00.12XhoI've lost a lot of weight recently
23:00.23XhoI'd better be careful not to lose too much
23:00.42WormyI can't gain it and easily lose it
23:01.06WormyDuring my personal fieldtrip last year, all I ate was dried food for a week
23:01.13Wormyand packet food
23:01.47WormyEven my belt wasn't holding up my trousers hur
23:02.06WormyI also don't get serious hangovers
23:02.26WormyI dson't know if this is a blessing or something wrong with me
23:02.40XhoI don't get hangovers either so probably a blessing
23:02.46XhoWell, I get hangovers when I mix
23:02.52XhoBut then again...that's mixing for you
23:03.14Wormyyes, I don't get effects off beers, but can off of spirits.  But it has never made me sick, or feel sick
23:03.49XhoIdeally I want to fit in size 30 jeans but I do wonder sometimes whether that is too thin
23:03.53Wormyeffects as in next day
23:04.21WormyWine can make me sleepy though.  Do you notice different effects from different drinks?
23:04.52WormyCider can make me argumentative and loud so best I not drink it much
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23:08.00WormyBeer does things in levels
23:10.03WormyFirst I'm a bit out of balance, then I become a philosopher, then I becomre more outgoing and laugh more, then I become a philosopher again, then I become properly drunk and laugh at things not that funny, and then finally, the shits and giggles sets in and I can do silly things like jumping off things if not careful
23:10.58Wormyactualy the last stage occurs when I've had other alcohol too
23:37.58DrodoEmpiretest
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23:47.33TekDroidHello
23:51.51TekDroid~test
23:51.51infobotfrom memory, test is not funny

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