IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140512

00:00.03GD12draconis motorcycles should be like greviouses then
00:00.09GD12though draconis seem too posh for that
00:01.10GD12I think i oversized the weapons of the last given they are all supposed to be antiinfantry hings hur
00:01.18Monethttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120217222339/spore/images/9/90/DrakCycleRacing.png they do have sports bikes
00:02.31GD12i se
00:03.08GD12ahh crap im miscropped the last one
00:03.10GD12dum me
00:03.22GD12ill fix that later hur
00:06.45GD12ngh i miscropped all of them to some extent
00:06.46GD12dumb me
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00:23.41WormyThe oldest Star Wars character?  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Huyang
00:24.41GD12dat old
00:25.05GD12I thought the oldest would be HK-47 from Kotor since he lives to around legacy era as an AI i think
00:25.10GD12but this guys from before Kotor
00:27.21MonetOne of the few beings in existence who may remember the foundation of the Republic. Remarkable
00:27.32GD12yeah
00:28.36GD12i wonder which race id most like to belong to in the ficverse if i was an avverage person
00:28.42GD12not the dcp, since id have no free will
00:28.48GD12not the junction since id be a synth
00:28.53GD12not the zazane cuz of eugenics
00:28.59GD12not the dominatus cuz they'll die
00:29.10GD12probably cyraemp of the di or humanity
00:29.21WormyI'd live with The Civilisation.
00:29.44MonetI'd wonder what to do with my life under the civilisation
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00:30.39GD12Welcome back
00:31.57Angrybirds_droidDanke.
00:32.07WormyWhat Sci-fi universe would you live in?
00:32.41WormyFor me it is Star Trek, then Star Wars http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Stuff#Which_universe_would_YOU_live_in.3F
00:33.00GD12hmm
00:33.08GD12Star Wars for me
00:33.19GD12since the other two im most familiar with are 40k and this
00:33.25GD12and 40k is yaknow grimdark
00:33.33GD12and this is in places grimdark
00:34.04Angrybirds_droidStar Trek is pretty bright. :P
00:34.31Knight_AlienWarhammer 40k
00:34.41GD12yeah but i dont know star trek that much
00:34.51GD12hence i didnt really factor that in
00:35.34GD12the other thing is that in startrek i'd probably be one of the redshirts in engineering
00:35.48GD12unless im smart enough to be chenkov :)
00:37.08WormyTbh, which sci-fi universe I like the most can vary a bit
00:37.31WormyI used to be really obsessed with Star Wars, and now my obsession is returning
00:38.15WormyThe Xeelee Sequence...  I'm not sure
00:38.22Wormyin terms of living in
00:38.53GD12i see haha
00:38.54WormyWhile it is full of OMG stuff, a lot of it could kill you horribly and you will never be remembered
00:39.55WormyEven pools of mud are deadly, the Qax conquered humanity
00:42.37WormyIf the laws of physics do vary and the multiverse is infinite, there might be a Star Wars universe
00:42.53GD12makes sense
00:42.57GD12well
00:43.05GD12if laws do vary randomly and the multiverse is infinite
00:43.13GD12then there exist an infitely large amount of star wars universes
00:43.53WormyAlternatively, if they don't vary, it is likely somewhere in the spacelike direction (or somewhere in the future timelike infinity) someone has created a virtual simulation.
00:44.54GD12thats possible too
00:45.11GD12if its possible to perfectly simulate universes using computing (tipler point) with variable laws
00:45.33GD12rips off the wings of Angrybirds_droid
00:46.08WormyAnd if it is possible to simulate consciousness using algorithms.  As Roger Penrose would be quick to point out.
00:46.25GD12yeah
00:47.14WormyBut then, maybe some unknown tech could still create consciousess
00:47.35WormyAnd the Force
00:52.29WormySpeaking of which
00:52.41WormyI had this idea for the next hyperspace revolution story
00:52.49GD12wot
00:53.00WormyNow it would only hint at the conclusion, not prove it
00:53.29WormyWhat if hyperspace was an artificial construct?  And essence (heavily linked to it) also artificial?
00:54.33quark8Good idea.
00:54.46GD12hmm
00:54.48WormyMy reasoning is, me and Ghelae simply can't work out a way to make any modern theory resemble hyperspace as it is depicted.  So we either leave it as unknown physics or have it an artificial construct of (extra dimensional) wormholes
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00:55.35WormyThe fiction would hint to the mystery, rather than say it has to be artificial
00:55.50MonetHaving mystery is good
00:56.13GD12yeah
00:56.33WormyThe fiction could focus on opening hyperspace to this mystery, I think
01:05.20quark8trest
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01:24.27DrodoEmpiretest
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01:26.05MonetGoodnight
01:26.55GD12Night
01:35.39Wormybye
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01:41.57quark8Hello.
01:42.00GD12hello
01:42.03The2ndplayerGreetings
01:42.15DrodoEmpireHey
01:42.18The2ndplayerI almost have my all max creature built
01:42.26GD12Cool
01:42.39GD12Look at these http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140511235114/spore/images/d/db/RepudiatorClassHeavyTetrapodPortrait.png http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140511235747/spore/images/a/a1/DevastatorClassHeavyTetrapodPortait.png  http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140511234500/spore/images/6/64/SubjugatorClassHeavyTetrapodPortrait.png
01:42.42The2ndplayerThe only thing it lacks is eye sight due to complexity limitations
01:43.02The2ndplayer0_0
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01:43.41The2ndplayerThat is some machine
01:44.00GD12aye thanks
01:44.04GD12you looked at all 3 of them?
01:44.08The2ndplayerYeah
01:44.20GD12Yeah, different variants of the same chassis
01:44.31The2ndplayerMissles and plenty of guns spell destruction
01:44.37GD12theres also this http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140511185106/spore/images/9/96/LegacyClassWalkerPortrait.png
01:44.37GD12aye
01:46.21The2ndplayerSo once I have my creature all set up how do I get its pic?
01:46.54GD12umm
01:47.00GD12go to the mode where its in a circle
01:47.02GD12and it can move and stuff
01:47.15GD12and have all the actions
01:47.20GD12once there change the background to all black
01:47.24GD12then press c
01:47.29The2ndplayerOkay
01:47.34GD12then go to my documents/my spore creations/pictures then it should be tere
01:48.27The2ndplayerThanks
01:54.13GD12Angrydroid your phone finally functioning?
01:57.09GD12its harder to take pictures of vehicles hurhur
02:04.02quark8test
02:05.18GD12passed
02:05.44GD12brb switching to windows
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02:06.45GD12actually screw it i dont have the creativity to make a model now
02:10.33quark8I never do.
02:12.24GD12It sucks because i dont have acess to my infantry pngs
02:12.26GD12only their portraits
02:12.48GD12Like this guy http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130210105818/spore/images/4/46/DominatusFaustPortrait2.png
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02:14.56GD12can you communicate now?
02:22.22quark8Test
02:23.21quark8Did I pass?
02:27.57GD12aye
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02:31.54GD12dum get ur phone to work hur
02:34.51quark8Can't you use some other device that will work?
02:40.41The2ndplayerDoes spore auto save?
02:41.03The2ndplayerCause mine just crashed 500DNA away from the perfect herbivore
02:42.14quark8Nope.
02:42.22quark8:(
02:43.20The2ndplayer:.......
02:43.33The2ndplayerdestroys anything in a 20 block radius
02:43.52The2ndplayerSo close! TnT
02:44.11The2ndplayerAll I needed was sneak and HP.
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02:46.42Knight_AlienAnd so their were four....
02:47.29Knight_Alien-_- then five...
02:47.35The2ndplayerMy creature was so weird
02:47.47GD12damnit angry get your phone stuff together hur
02:48.07The2ndplayerIt had three heads. 2 of which had single moose antlers on them facing outward
02:48.34The2ndplayerIts voice was beautiful! D:
02:49.02Knight_AlienI made a weird creature once it was a two headed split personality one.
02:50.02Knight_Alienhalf bug half cow the Cowbug was it's name.
02:50.13The2ndplayerAlso I can't believe there is such a specific way to craft the perfect creature. :/
02:50.26quark8It happened to me all the time. I just kept on saving every ten minutes.
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02:51.00The2ndplayerAB and AD
02:51.13The2ndplayerWonder where AA and AC are>
02:52.08quark8Angrybirds can you communicate now?
02:52.14GD12yes he can
02:52.23quark8:)
02:52.42The2ndplayerSo GD whats with the name?
02:53.40GD12GD means GreatDestroyer
02:53.59GD12I think I was 12 when i started playing Spore
02:54.15GD12Great Destroyer came from something in guild wars lore since i played that alot back i nthe day
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03:08.11quark8I started playing Spore when I was 8 and came to the wiki when I was 12.
03:09.08quark8I think.
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04:28.14GD12blargh
04:28.16GD12hello all
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04:45.44GD12Hello
04:45.52GD12Welcome back
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05:04.52GD12Hello
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05:25.25GD12well just finished snl so night!
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09:46.42AdmiralPandahi
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10:39.37Liquid_Inkbeats Impy up.
10:41.41Imperiosspills Liquid_Ink
10:41.53Liquid_Inkcries.
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11:26.23JepardiHi
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11:33.03WormyHi
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11:37.26AdmiralPandahai oluap
11:37.30AdmiralPandaI'm up to Iron Keep now
11:38.42OluapPlayerAnd I finished the game yesterday hur
11:39.57AdmiralPandagj
11:40.26OluapPlayerThose samurai enemies at Iron Keep humour me
11:40.41OluapPlayerThey run faster the more they have to get to you
11:40.59OluapPlayerIt gets to the point their legs move so fast it looks like they're twinkletoing
11:44.58AdmiralPandayeah the samurai are funny
11:45.12AdmiralPandaalso I get what you mean by it being like Anal Rodeo
11:46.35OluapPlayerI said that?
11:48.30AdmiralPandayeah you compared Iron Keep to one big Anal Rodeo staircase
11:48.39AdmiralPandayou know, the part with the two archers
11:49.38OluapPlayerCan't remember that
11:49.46OluapPlayerBut the Iron Keep archers are bullshit yes
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11:58.19ImperiosOluapPlayer: Feeling better?
11:58.31OluapPlayerYes
12:02.02OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Year_7#Retake_What_Is_Yours there's a new section here
12:20.15AdmiralPandadat kalcedia tho
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12:48.37AdmiralPandahi GD
12:49.00GD12hi
12:50.02OluapPlayerhi
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13:08.04Imperios> Kalcedia sat, surprisingly clothed,
13:08.08ImperiosThat's suspicious
13:08.17ImperiosSHE HAS BEEN REPLACED BY A ROVEGAR SPY
13:08.36OluapPlayerhur
13:09.15ImperiosI wish I could join as Lemmo hur
13:09.30ImperiosHe could come as a one-shot character, in theory
13:10.21OluapPlayerToo late for that now
13:13.40AdmiralPandaI'm just not even saying anything :P
13:17.19OluapPlayerAdmiralPanda: https://24.media.tumblr.com/cdb7db9c85c4acac0154c517590ba51b/tumblr_n4jbn7QbPJ1qisr8oo1_500.gif "darksouls2_PC_at_majula.gif"
13:18.42AdmiralPandalel
13:20.18Imperiosgah
13:20.25ImperiosWish I could be more active
13:20.35ImperiosHm, what comes after Ice Age?
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13:21.33ImperiosIt's funny, really
13:22.03OluapPlayerI'm not going to spoil that
13:22.09ImperiosI had plans - good ones - for GCW, Ice Age, Tantum, et cetera et cetera
13:22.45Imperios...And I never actually managed to set them into motion because 2slow
13:24.00ImperiosDark Times, too
13:26.19AdmiralPandaI never really have plans prior, just regrets afterwards
13:27.27ImperiosHue
13:27.38ImperiosThat's my main problem
13:27.56ImperiosI think too much and act too little
13:29.31AdmiralPandaI've mostly had problems with people either actively not wanting me involved, or with others just not making an effort
13:29.50AdmiralPandathat or I don't get told things are happening until they're already too far progressed
13:30.19ImperiosWell
13:30.26ImperiosWe both have the same problem
13:30.58ImperiosWe are both goddamn Gaijins on this mostly Western European-Eastern American wiki
13:31.13ImperiosTimezones and all thar
13:31.16Imperiosthat
13:32.25AdmiralPandathat and I haven't had time to work on the multi-user fiction because D&D
13:32.50ImperiosI am just lazy
13:32.58ImperiosAlways my bane
13:33.28ImperiosI really wish I had your dedication, Oluap
13:34.45OluapPlayerIt helps that this is the only thing I do all day
13:35.03AdmiralPandalel
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13:36.06ImperiosYeah
13:36.12ImperiosI must read tons of stuff at the moment
13:36.20ImperiosSuch as Mayakovsky
13:36.39ImperiosSeriously, google "Mayakovsky" and try reading the translated versions
13:37.52Imperios' Right off I spattered the map of workdays,
13:38.10ImperiosWait did you recieve that
13:40.58OluapPlayerIf you mean you saying you spattered the map of workdays, yes
13:43.09ImperiosWait, that was the first line
13:43.21ImperiosRight off I spattered the map of workdays,
13:43.24Imperiosweird
13:44.14Imperiosthere
13:44.16ImperiosRight off I spattered the map of workday/flinging paint from a glass;/I illustrated on a plate of jellied meat/
13:44.29ImperiosThst the stuff I have to learn
13:44.41Imperiosthe angular jaws of the ocean./On the scales of a tin fish/I deciphered the call of new lips./And would you /be able to/play a nocturne/on the flute of the drainpipes?/
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13:58.15dromWormy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgYSv2KSyWg
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14:05.54ImperiosHi Mon
14:06.13dromWatson is a such interesting AI:
14:06.38ImperiosMonet: I only realised now that you named yourself after a French artist
14:06.47ImperiosAm I stupid hur
14:07.10MonetNot really.
14:07.30MonetI've had a few people assume my username is pornounced "moan-ette"
14:09.10ImperiosDemonet
14:09.16Imperios*Dae-monet-te
14:09.27dromI would pounch it as "monei"
14:10.15dromCome here so I can use you to buy new shoes for me.
14:13.48MonetNu
14:15.55MonetImperios: I was watching a video about WoW raiding last night and from what the guy was saying, raids do seem to be getting easier
14:16.36AdmiralPandafrom what my friend told me, the raids are becoming less and less about thinking and more and more about tank&spank
14:17.39MonetBefore the release of expansions, only something like less than 10% of all WoW players had managed to get through Naxxramas, and this is one of the most widely-applauded raids of all time
14:17.56MonetFrom the original game
14:19.11MonetWhen the Burning Crusade came out it was something like 2 months before all but the ultimate raid bosses - Illidan Stormrage and Kael'Thas had been pounded into the floor
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14:19.46MonetAnd Kael's face never met dirt until some time in June.
14:19.54quark8Hello.
14:20.18MonetWrath of Tle Lich King? All release-date bosses dead in it was either 2 days or 22 hours.
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14:21.50MonetI remember the days when entire guilds were built to perform this endgame content
14:22.35MonetSuch guilds do exist, sure, but now there's a raid-finder option so you can now queue up and join 25 completely unknown people t otake on the game's "hardest" opponents
14:23.22MonetHaving purple-rarity gear used t oreally mean something
14:23.30dromI remember the times when we had to stand inmiddle of captiols to join a raid group.
14:25.24MonetHow times change
14:27.01dromFun fact: Cats are used as sliencers for assault rifles and shotguns in POSTAL 2.
14:27.39OluapPlayerYou can also use cheats to fire cats instead of bullets
14:27.45MonetI've met some raid groups who'd kick you because your average item level didn't surpass the item level of drops in that raid
14:28.16MonetWhich begs the question: If I'm going in with stuff that's superior to whatever the bosses drop, why am I going in?
14:28.28OluapPlayerThat's rude
14:29.23dromBecause money money money
14:29.27AdmiralPandaMonet: because you're silly
14:29.43AdmiralPandathat or because you don't have enough shoulder pads
14:29.46MonetYou think that's rude? How about someone inspecting your gear, deeming your stuff "not good enough" then kicking you out of the group without a word
14:29.51dromMonet: The raid groups must be full of ninjas and gold grinders.
14:30.52Monetdrom: I think you can also get achievement-grinders too
14:31.16dromAye.
14:32.15ImperiosThat's why I no longer play WoW
14:33.33MonetWhen Blizzard added a perk and level system to guilds, I saw a whole slew of "all perks" guilds in days. I'm not kidding, within hours of the patch there were people making guilds for the sole purpose of characters being able to enjoy all these perks
14:33.35dromIs this, your and Hachi's fort, OluapPlayer? http://i.imgur.com/qaqS9OV.jpg
14:33.52AdmiralPandaI stopped playing Eudemons because they added two OP classes in a row and fucked over the late game
14:35.03dromImperios: http://i.imgur.com/QsqXk55.gif
14:35.13MonetAdmiralPanda: Reminds me of the "Death Knoob" hate
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14:38.14MonetThe Death Knight class was infamous in that as the game's first "hero" class, it was quite overpowered. It gained infamy equal to the Huntard in that you could have no frikkin clue how to use or spec your Knight properly and you'd still be grinding enemies beneath your boots
14:38.55MonetAnd "death grip" (an ability that pulled an enemy towards you) was an ability to be feared in PvP
14:39.08dromI hated that as a Paladin and Mage.
14:39.48dromBut when I went death knight. "Whahahahah! QQ!"
14:41.12OluapPlayerhttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140512023231/spore/images/b/b1/Basilisk.png I made a thing for Koldenwelt
14:44.24MonetDoes it kill by looking at you?
14:44.44OluapPlayerThat's OP so I described it as just making you shit yourself in fear instead hur
14:45.19MonetI think there are ways you can counter it
14:45.37MonetI think some legends say you can survive it by not looking into its eyes
14:45.42OluapPlayerI looked for basilisk descriptions and I found stuff saying it either looks like a huge snake or a chicken
14:46.02OluapPlayerI thought a chicken would be too silly so I went for the snake, but I gave it a cock's crest
14:46.42MonetThe name originally meant "little king"
14:48.19OluapPlayerI was wondering if we could have a page describing all the classical fantasy creatures present in the setting
14:48.32OluapPlayerIt'd be helpful to keep track
14:48.55MonetIndeed.
14:49.41MonetPlus I know a couple of us here on the wiki who love medieval bestiaries
14:50.17OluapPlayerI do like bestiaries, I just don't know much about the creatures hur
14:50.23OluapPlayerActually that's a good potential page name
14:50.25OluapPlayerBestiary
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14:51.08dromEuropean basilisk are in general chickens with dinosaur body and ability to breath fire.
14:52.20MonetYeah, the key characteristics of the basilisk is that it is terrifyingly potent
14:52.52OluapPlayerI did describe the basilisk I made as being able to breath fire and having a really powerful venom
14:53.37Monetfire, kill-gaze, insta-kill venom and even perspiring venom are common ideas for it
14:53.40dromAccording to nordic folklore, it kills anyone who meets it's gaze.
14:53.54MonetBasically anything that gets close to a basilisk dies.
14:54.04OluapPlayerThe kill-gaze is the only thing of these that I didn't include
14:54.49MonetAs long as it doesn't see you, I think you're fine
14:54.51dromHey, it even says that it has a breath that posions it's surrondings.
14:55.53MonetAlthough it does have one weakness: Weasals, accodrinf to Pliny the Elder
14:56.16OluapPlayerI read that only weasels can kill basilisks
14:56.38OluapPlayerBut that sounds a little too overly specific for the setting
14:56.55MonetIts because weasals and their relatives are great snake-killers
14:57.10dromI heard that Basilisks can't kill/stone anyone who meets their gaze in a mirror.
14:57.41MonetThen again I think if you set a weasal against a 3 metre long boa, the boa might win
14:57.49dromJust like the movie with greek gods, where they had to kill Medusa in a greenhouse.
14:57.54OluapPlayerI can see now where the Dark Souls basilisks are inspired from
14:58.00OluapPlayerThey have chicken feet
14:58.46Monetdrom: I remember that happens in Harry Potter: Anyone who sees a basilisk's reflection in that setting is only petrified.
14:59.41dromAnd the basilisk is killed. Anyone who meet the gaze will revived.
14:59.48dromwill be*
14:59.57AdmiralPandathat one's from Medusa not basilisks, but it got copied over
15:00.02AdmiralPandalike everything from the classical world
15:00.20MonetHm, I thought reversing basilisk petrification involved mandrake root?
15:00.38AdmiralPandaI was talking about the mirror thing
15:00.48AdmiralPandaPerseus used a polished shield to attack Medusa without being petrified
15:00.49MonetAdmiralPanda: I know, I meanr that one for drom
15:01.24dromI don't exactly know.
15:01.55Monet[15:57] <drom> Just like the movie with greek gods, where they had to kill Medusa in a greenhouse. >> Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief, right?
15:01.55dromBut that Harry Potter basilisk, it killed Ron's sister. She was revived after the basilisk was killed. Right?
15:02.03dromMonet: Ah yes.
15:03.05dromI gotta go and eat dinner. See ya soon.
15:03.16ImperiosOluapPlayer: Well
15:03.17ImperiosCockatrice
15:03.17ImperiosCOCK-atrice
15:03.17ImperiosOf course thèy are chickenlike
15:03.31OluapPlayerAnd that's silly
15:03.34OluapPlayerSo mine's a snake hur
15:03.34MonetI can see parallels between Medusa and the basilisk - death-glare and snakes.
15:04.28MonetMedusa was a beautiful and highly sought-after woman while the basilisk is the self-proclaimed snake-king
15:04.50MonetAlthough it varies in interpretation as to why medusa was turned int oa snake lady
15:05.37MonetSome say she proclaimed herself more beautiful than Athena, some say that she drew the attention of the gods, others say that Athena was just flat-out jealous
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15:06.51MonetFunny how the patron god of the arts, culture and education is also a bitchy, self-centred daddy's-girl.
15:10.15MonetAnyway this bestiary page.
15:10.28MonetLet's first work out what creatures we've got
15:10.42MonetSo we have basilisks, vampires, chimeras, what else?
15:12.16MonetWait, is this page going to be a trivia page to indicate classical origins of the fantasyverse creatures or an in-universe bestiary?
15:12.39OluapPlayerWell, I'm not quite sure myself
15:13.08OluapPlayerI had the basic idea of "here's a list of classic fantasy creatures present in the setting"
15:13.17OluapPlayerObviously it would be more expanded than that
15:14.35MonetA brief summary of the classic fantasy creature?
15:14.37OluapPlayerFrom the top of my head, I can think of: elves, dwarves, orcs, dragons, fairies, golems, vampires, werewolves, nagas, basilisks, centaurs, minotaurs, kobolds
15:15.10OluapPlayerAnd hydras
15:17.15MonetHmm.
15:18.38MonetWe have sphynx
15:19.22MonetAnd I'm seeing elements of djinni in the Deonari
15:19.32OluapPlayerYeah, sphynx too
15:19.39dromDid anyone say hydras?
15:19.45OluapPlayerI made hydras
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15:22.55dromI love how the AoM's hydra gains an additional head after every kill.
15:25.28MonetI remember when the Simpsons parodied Hercules' labours in their comics
15:25.44AdmiralPandaI'm off, see you guys later
15:25.49MonetOkay
15:26.26MonetYou had Snake play the hydra and Bart was Hercules. After cutting the heads off and making about 20 different heads, Hercules asked the hydra one question: "Which one of you will get my wallet?"
15:27.26Monet...probably should have mentioned that when he appeared in the strip he said he'd kill Hercules ant take his money.
15:28.01OluapPlayerhur
15:28.27MonetSo Bart|Hercules runs off while the Hydra fights itself
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15:33.03MonetHuh... Kobolds in Germanic mythology are very different from those that we have in fantasyverse
15:33.19Monethttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/Kobold_and_flowers.jpeg here's one comon form of Germanic kobold - a little man
15:33.29ImperiosThey're still small angry miner people
15:34.26MonetTrue, but you an also get friendly kobolds who could help around the house
15:34.44OluapPlayerIsn't that a garden gnome?
15:34.51MonetIts just our Kobolds look more doglike
15:36.06OluapPlayerAre the Ordnung reptiles or mammals? I can't tell
15:36.20ImperiosMammal
15:36.28OluapPlayerrite
15:37.31MonetClassically? No, house kobolds and gnomes were very different
15:37.50MonetIt was during the 19th and 20th century when gnomes became closer in behaviour ot fairies
15:39.00ImperiosI am not sure if my Ordnungs are doglike
15:39.05ImperiosOr molelike
15:39.35MonetHow good are their eyes?
15:39.52OluapPlayerTheir heads look lizard-like to me hur
15:40.11ImperiosNot sure
15:40.22ImperiosBut considering that their magic is light-based, probably decent
15:40.53MonetThen they're not entirely like moles
15:41.26ImperiosI wanted them to look evil hur
15:41.30ImperiosI might redesign them again
15:41.31ImperiosI also might revise their ideology
15:41.50ImperiosI mean now that I have a large role in the Empire, we don't need two Nazis
15:42.01ImperiosOr should I keep them Nazi?
15:42.23OluapPlayerOne is already too many
15:42.48MonetLooking up hitory, turns out that the gnomes' technological affinity comes from the wors of Tolkien
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15:44.37Monethttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noldor lookit dat, elves with a love for living in massive cities in mountains
15:44.51MonetGranted Tolkien's "noldor" are very, very tall for gnomes
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15:51.34OluapPlayerdumba
15:52.24Technobliteratorya dad
15:52.36OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Year_7#Retake_What_Is_Yours chek
15:53.14Technobliteratorsuks lul
15:59.20Technobliteratoralright I'll read in a sec
15:59.21Technobliteratorgot dinner
16:02.52ImperiosMonet: What do you think? Should I downplay the Nazi aspect of the Cobalt Kingdom?
16:03.44MonetI think so. I like how they are an ancient people who long to regain the ancient empire their kind once had.
16:04.08MonetBut maybe going a direction other than "Das Fuhrer" is a possibility
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16:07.18MonetOkuapPlayer: Quite a history.
16:07.54Monet"One day, he stabbed a poisoned dagger through my dagger on my sleep" >> "by "my dagger" did you mean "my ribs"?
16:08.06Technobliteratorokay, I'll read now
16:09.37OluapPlayerI meant back there
16:09.46OluapPlayerI already fixed it
16:10.56TechnobliteratorWragrot - I don't care. Let them all die. It'll be better for everyone.
16:10.56Technobliteratorrekt
16:12.52Technobliteratorthat was pretty sweet
16:12.55Technobliteratorwragrot rules
16:14.21OluapPlayeryey
16:14.43TechnobliteratorI liked his monologue as well
16:16.23OluapPlayerI said I wanted to use the Murgur
16:16.26OluapPlayerI'm doing that now hur
16:18.16ImperiosMonet: I think that making the antagonists racists is kinda cheap
16:19.06ImperiosIt is like screaming "EEEEVIL"
16:19.55Technobliterator<PROTECTED>
16:19.59Technobliteratorrefresh yo pages
16:20.02OluapPlayerI don't want to see the Ordnung take the same direction as the Empire
16:20.03Technobliteratordo infoboxes still work?
16:20.15OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: Yes
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16:20.44Technobliteratordefinitely? sweet
16:23.47ImperiosOluapPlayer: I am trying to give depth to the Empire's motivations as well
16:23.54ImperiosAs I said, humans in the Fantasyverse would have endured a few millenia of slavery
16:24.35OluapPlayerI've disliked the Empire since Hachi made it tbh
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16:24.37Hachimanhai
16:24.41OluapPlayerI just find it so unlikeable
16:24.45OluapPlayerSpeaking of wieners
16:24.49OluapPlayeromg hai
16:24.51HachimanHm?
16:24.53Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10277300_1431887960395521_7892382565922033933_n.jpg
16:25.11HachimanWhat's unlikeable?
16:25.18OluapPlayerThe Empire of Man
16:25.42ImperiosHi Hachi
16:26.03ImperiosI do not intend them to be likeable
16:26.16HachimanWould you prefer good human factions?
16:26.23ImperiosI want them to be antagonistic, but also humane and understandable
16:26.44OluapPlayerI'd prefer no human faction at all
16:27.31Imperiosbut
16:27.38Imperiosu made Norriguhn
16:27.56OluapPlayerNorrigan is only human because his inspiration is human
16:28.33Technobliteratorrefresh
16:28.36Technobliteratorhard refresh
16:28.40Technobliteratorare infoboxes okay?
16:28.42OluapPlayerI find the Empire annoying so I don't want it involved in my fiction
16:28.50ImperiosIn what way
16:29.02OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: Yes
16:29.03ImperiosOther than "humans"
16:29.09Technobliteratorsweet
16:29.13Technobliteratorone last thing...
16:29.14OluapPlayerI find it obnoxious with all the nazism
16:29.25Imperiosrite I assume
16:29.40OluapPlayerAnd none of the characters are likeable
16:29.43ImperiosAs I said, I kinda agree with you, making a Nazi-esque antagonist faction is cheap
16:29.46OluapPlayerJavina is the only barely likeable one
16:29.51ImperiosWhat about Valdemar?
16:30.27OluapPlayerValdemar doesn't follow the nazi trend so he's alright
16:30.45OluapPlayerI don't think of the Empire when I think of him
16:32.00ImperiosI am not sure who made the Empire Nazi
16:32.12ImperiosWas it me or Hachi?
16:32.16OluapPlayerIt started nazi as far as I'm aware
16:32.37HachimanI intended for them to be xenophobic but not Nazi
16:33.02Technobliteratorand finally
16:33.03ImperiosI pushed them I guess
16:33.11Technobliteratorrefresh, hard refresh, whatever, is it all fine?
16:33.28Imperios...I had a Nazi/racist phase back then, don't blame me
16:33.39OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: Yes
16:33.43TechnobliteratorWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
16:33.47Technobliteratordances in excitement
16:33.50TechnobliteratorFUCK YOU ARRAYMAP
16:33.53TechnobliteratorDIE FOREVER
16:33.58TechnobliteratorI NO LONGER NEED YOU
16:33.58ImperiosAnyway, now that I think about it, I wonder what should I do with the Empire
16:33.59TechnobliteratorMWAHAHAHA
16:34.00OluapPlayerI don't see why you couldn't just check it yourself
16:34.10Imperios*I should do
16:34.20Technobliteratorit would slow my load times too much
16:34.22Technobliteratorthey're already slow
16:34.29Technobliteratorthis is an intense amount of javascript work
16:34.40Technobliteratorbut yeah
16:34.49Technobliteratorenjoy faster loading times and no more reliance on SMW
16:34.54Technobliteratorother than taxons ._.
16:35.11OluapPlayerSo I don't like the Empire for its obnoxious attitude, its unlikeableness and because it overshadows the rest of your fiction way too much
16:35.22OluapPlayerIt's a scrappy faction in my opinion
16:35.29ImperiosRight
16:35.30Technobliteratorhey
16:35.33ImperiosI still have my dragonbrits
16:35.34Technobliteratorsefarina's tribe aren't like that :|
16:35.40ImperiosNobody hates my dragonbrits don't you
16:35.48OluapPlayerNo, your dragonbrits are great
16:35.54OluapPlayerBut they're overshadowed by the Empire
16:35.58OluapPlayerAs is the rest of your fiction
16:36.08ImperiosJo: They are basically under Saphronian protectorste so they don't count
16:36.25TechnobliteratorI always thought the Empire were diverse
16:36.28Technobliteratormight have been wrong
16:36.44ImperiosThe Empire is diverse, yes
16:36.52ImperiosBut the government is nasty
16:37.37ImperiosRite so, what I am trying to do is to make their motivation deeper
16:37.53ImperiosLike, they'd be racist but have a good reason for that
16:38.27OluapPlayerThat changes nothing to me, I still don't want them involved in my fiction
16:39.08OluapPlayerHachiman: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140512023231/spore/images/b/b1/Basilisk.png I made a critter
16:39.28Hachimansnaek
16:39.30ImperiosSo, no matter what I do to them you won't like them?
16:39.57OluapPlayerDeepening their motivation won't make me like them, because I don't like their motivation
16:41.07ImperiosWell I could downplay their racism because honestly it makes them cheap
16:41.27ImperiosWould that work?
16:41.28MonetOluap hates human fictions, its a hard truth we all live by
16:43.42ImperiosI could weave their motivations around paranoia and xenophoby towards other species as opposed to outright hatred; like, they would focus more on forming their national identity et cetera et cetera
16:45.03ImperiosSomething like Malcolm X and his followers. The Nation of Islam, I believe?
16:47.19ImperiosAnd focus their hate more on elves
16:48.51ImperiosHachi, Mon, what do you think?
16:49.12HachimanMaybe
16:49.20HachimanBut it wouldn't change anything otherwise
16:49.45HachimanI myself don't see them as a scrappy fiction
16:49.55HachimanI like their Nazi feel but maybe tone it down a bit
16:50.26ImperiosThat is what I am trying to do
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16:50.41ImperiosNazis are pretty damn pop
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16:50.51ImperiosThere have been other nasty people in the world, you know
16:51.12ImperiosMon?
16:54.18ImperiosOP?
16:55.16OluapPlayerYou should probably stop asking my opinion on this because I'm not going to give you productive answers
16:55.37ImperiosHey I want feedback
16:56.13ImperiosRite
16:56.29ImperiosWhat I could expand on with the Klaxxa
16:56.42Imperios*could I
16:56.53OluapPlayerThe Klaxxa seem complete to me
17:00.50Imperiosrite
17:01.09ImperiosI could expand on the Alchemist Union I guess
17:01.17OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet%3AKoldenwelt/Tartarion#Races you could fill these
17:01.34ImperiosI imagine it would have lots of crazy people in it
17:01.36ImperiosOh yes that
17:03.32MonetGrr. One of the early missoins that the Compansions of Skyrim gave me is to clear out a den of Falmer. They didn't seem aware of the fucking Dwarven Centurion that's acting as the Falmer's personal bodyguard
17:05.17ImperiosSpeaking of which could Latar appear in vampire war?
17:05.45OluapPlayerYes
17:06.08OluapPlayerYou wanted Tartarion involved so she can help fight vampires in their section
17:06.49ImperiosThe rest of the Daisarvi kinda hate her hur
17:07.06OluapPlayerLatar - im tellin mikko
17:08.38ImperiosAlso
17:09.05ImperiosCould non-pureblood vampires have Succubi harems or are succubi by definition more high-ranked?
17:10.54OluapPlayerSuccubi are on the same level as halfbloods
17:11.08OluapPlayerSo yes, potentially
17:12.20OluapPlayerIt goes: Count -> Mortium- > Dalverat Sisters -> Vurdalaks and werepyres -> Halfbloods and succubi -> other creatures
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17:21.55Hachimandumternet
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17:23.43PrimiusHi everyone! :3
17:25.43Primius...
17:46.00ImperiosOluapPlayer: Could Knyaz Vurdal get a few succubi bitches then?
17:46.09OluapPlayerYes
17:46.52ImperiosI will probably change his name though
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17:57.02dromhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTlXttQL_Yk
17:59.41ImperiosKnyaz Mor, perhaps?
18:00.03ImperiosThat's Russian for 'epidemic' or 'plague'
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18:01.07OluapPlayerspu
18:01.11Xhou
18:01.19OluapPlayerI personally like Vurdal
18:01.34ImperiosBut
18:01.37ImperiosVurdal
18:01.40ImperiosVurdalak
18:01.49OluapPlayerbah
18:01.52OluapPlayerYou can go for Mor
18:01.58OluapPlayerXho: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140512165628/spore/images/b/b1/Basilisk.png ssss
18:02.00XhoGlad I wasn't the only one to get that link
18:02.08ImperiosHm
18:02.11ImperiosHow about Morodlak
18:02.17XhoShiarchon - gummy snaek
18:02.25ImperiosThat would be Old Russian for "plaguehide"
18:02.32OluapPlayerThat's good
18:03.45XhoSo what are the basssssilisssk for
18:04.00OluapPlayerWildlife
18:04.04ImperiosXho: Hm
18:04.13XhomH
18:04.22ImperiosWould the Khoyan'xa count as their own species
18:04.28ImperiosOr just very ugly humans
18:04.36XhoWell they did at one point
18:04.39XhoAnd they're like seven feet tall
18:04.42XhoSo I guess they do
18:05.21OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe/Bestiary I also started a thing
18:05.44Xhour a gud ups
18:05.48Xhopats Oluap on the head
18:06.27OluapPlayer:>
18:07.06XhoBut how do I add to that hu
18:07.08Xho*hur
18:07.20OluapPlayerDon't edit that page yet
18:07.28OluapPlayerI'm still figuring out what will go in it
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18:09.43dromImperios: http://i.imgur.com/U3eNPvO.jpg
18:10.07XhoBig dragon is big
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18:10.28dromAye: Have comments too, incase you want some puns. http://imgur.com/gallery/U3eNPvO
18:11.07OluapPlayerhueg dergon
18:11.26Xhohttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140511192712/spore/images/8/87/PraetorValentinianus.png For those who haven't seen
18:11.27Imperiosdrom: Deathwing - where am I ;_;
18:11.44PrimiusBack
18:12.09dromImgur - "You are from a shit MMO. Git out." *fedoratip*
18:12.36Primius*Primiae start falling from the sky*
18:12.45Xhohttp://www1.theladbible.com/images/content/630w/5370e55f570a6.jpg Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the United Kingdom
18:13.20edza101I want a binary quasar
18:13.31edza101best power source EVAR
18:13.50Primiusmakes an energy-tapper
18:13.53PrimiusHere
18:14.02XhoI want to put Valentinianus into a story
18:14.11XhoBut then again it would be a Shiarchon based story
18:14.11dromXho: Typical brits. Still don't beat russians.
18:14.30Primiusmakes a better mechanichal butt-wiper
18:14.45Primius:trollface: primiae make everything better
18:14.54edza101Primius: make me a gas giant magnetosphere harvester
18:15.11dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/IPeMi
18:15.32dromWrecking Ralph > Frozen.
18:16.04Primiusmakes a gas giant magnetosphere harvester
18:16.05PrimiusDone
18:18.20dromXho: http://imgur.com/gallery/jKzDR
18:20.23PrimiusCheck this out: http://hypotheticalhurricanes.wikia.com/wiki/2015_Atlantic_Hurricane_Season_(Everyone)#Hurricane_Nu
18:20.35PrimiusBut scroll to the top
18:20.39PrimiusThen back down
18:21.39XhoDrom: Aye
18:22.10Xho"Hurricane Nu"
18:22.17XhoNu - COMING THROUGH
18:23.11dromStormchaser - Not today. *turns on vaccumer*
18:23.16PrimiusHypercane Tav: DIE
18:23.35OluapPlayerXho: make time colossus dood paeg nao
18:23.39Xhonay
18:23.58Primius*Hypercane Tav kills like a bazillion ppl*
18:24.09PrimiusHypercane Tav: YA
18:25.11PrimiusSuperstorm WMA52-A II: IMMA SUPASTROM
18:26.14PrimiusRP anyone? :3
18:27.38XhoImperios: Perhaps in that Eschaton story, Servius gets prompted by Valentinianus and then gets on his nerves
18:28.16Primius123 for rp
18:29.46XhoLiterally like -         Valentinianus - do dis                      Servius - alrite u bossy dick              Valentinianus - wat
18:30.18Primius*Primian spaceship crashes on the bad guy*
18:30.24Primius*if there is one*
18:33.19Primius...
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18:36.05GhelaeHello.
18:36.30PrimiusHallo
18:43.29Primius...
18:44.00ImperiosXho: Ya
18:44.10ImperiosBTW guys
18:44.23ImperiosSeen my Servius section?
18:44.28XhoWell yeah
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18:44.44DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
18:45.10ImperiosOluapPlayer Monet: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140512184312/spore/images/7/7f/Thessina_Venoriel.png Remade Thessina
18:45.20ImperiosNot sure if I like it
18:45.23ImperiosWhat do you think
18:45.27OluapPlayerLooks good
18:46.50ImperiosAlso
18:47.04ImperiosI c that Alcony has been chosen to represent vampirea
18:47.08ImperiosI am pleased
18:47.09MonetHer outfit looks cleaner this time around
18:47.40MonetInteresting choice of hairstyle but I can't help but be reminded of Zoja.
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18:48.18MonetDid you see my response?
18:48.32TheImperiosOluapPlayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVCTRfTNFHA
18:48.33TheImperiosYes
18:48.51OluapPlayerYes I chose him because he's the most normal looking vampire hur
18:48.55ImperiosMonet: That was my intention,
18:49.19OluapPlayerI'm almost done editing, after that you can all fill your respective bits
18:49.35ImperiosShe kinda looks cute with Zojja's ear covering
18:50.19Imperiosactually, Thessina wearing ear accessories makes sense... I think
18:50.26ImperiosRadeon ears are kinda erogenous
18:50.47ImperiosThessina is the most... liberal Radeon character sans MirrorVera
18:51.08ImperiosSo she would obviously try to accessorise them
18:51.13OluapPlayerShe gets hot whenever she tilts her head
18:51.39Imperiosohgod
18:52.26ImperiosThessina - Look, what is that- OHHH -wait, look at that - OOOHHH - wait, why are people staring at me- AHHH
18:52.30OluapPlayerhur
18:52.37OluapPlayerGavakar - goddamnit girl
18:52.59ImperiosMaybe she thinks she can get the boys' attention with ear accessories
18:53.16ImperiosIt might be like lipstick or something
18:53.42ImperiosNormal Radeons would not wear them because they are normal Radeons, but not the more liberal ones in the neutral zone
18:53.57OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe/Bestiary I'm done
18:54.00OluapPlayerFill your bits pls
18:54.14ImperiosMonet: ...Wait.
18:54.27ImperiosI just imagined Radeon prostitutes dressed like Zojja
18:56.51MonetHehehehehe
18:58.03ImperiosI imagine Thessina have a fetish for...
18:58.04ImperiosHm.
18:58.32ImperiosWhat would be the Andromedan equivalent of South Korea and/or Japan?
18:58.32OluapPlayereverything
18:58.45OluapPlayerBrood of War hur
18:59.03ImperiosThat's Japan, not South Korea
18:59.19OluapPlayerYou asked Japan, I said Japan
18:59.41Imperios...rite, she would have a fetish for Zazane pop singers hur
19:00.35MonetDidn't we already see her enthralled in a Zazane opera?
19:00.49ImperiosWell yeah that is more or less canon already hur
19:00.59ImperiosThessina the K-Pop Fangirl
19:01.21Imperios>Mother is Space Asian >Daughter is Space Weeaboo
19:01.24ImperiosLogic
19:02.43XhoOluapPlayer: added
19:02.58OluapPlayergud spu
19:03.36OluapPlayerpats Xho in the head
19:03.40Xhoyinh
19:03.43Xhoying even
19:04.13OluapPlayerImperios: fill Centaurs, Kobolds and Sphinxes pls
19:04.19ImperiosTomorrow
19:04.25OluapPlayerdam u
19:04.27ImperiosIT IS ALWAYS TOMORROW FOR IMPERIOS
19:04.36OluapPlayerToday is yesterday's tomorrow
19:04.38XhoI can fill in the Elementals one if one wants
19:04.44Imperioshm Xho
19:04.44OluapPlayerYou can
19:04.57ImperiosShould I make the Empire less Nazi?
19:05.04XhoDunno why
19:05.49ImperiosBTW, Oluap
19:06.02ImperiosWhen you said that Javina is the only barely likeable Imperial
19:06.28Imperios...isn't she the only major Imperial character who has appeared in the stories?
19:06.55OluapPlayerShe's not the only Imperial char in the wiki
19:07.16MonetMarcos would count if he hadn't exiled himself
19:07.29ImperiosWell if we count everyone there's also Carlini, who was kinda nice
19:07.39XhoAdded Undead
19:07.44XhoWait no
19:07.46XhoElementals
19:07.51OluapPlayerdumbo
19:08.13XhoOh god, Void Elementals
19:08.40ImperiosRite, Oluap
19:08.50OluapPlayerAnd I've changed the Dragon pic to a Storm Drake
19:08.55OluapPlayercause too many pics by me on that page
19:09.27ImperiosWhat would you think if I emphasised the Empire's struggle for independence and sovereignty and hatred towards their former slavers more?
19:09.31XhoShould I add Void Denizens to that page
19:09.40XhoWell Phoenixes are on that page so why not
19:09.40ImperiosWith other races being more mistrusted than outright hated
19:09.54OluapPlayerThat page is for classical fantasy creatures in the Fantasyverse
19:10.01OluapPlayerVoid Denizens are a wiki-only thing
19:10.14XhoDemons then hur
19:10.34OluapPlayerI'd have added a Demons section but I'm not sure what constitutes a demon in the fantasyverse
19:10.39XhoVoid Denizen hur
19:10.46OluapPlayerImperios: I think you need to stop asking me things about the Empire of Man
19:10.48ImperiosSame question to the rest of you guys
19:11.26OluapPlayerPotentially, demons could be anything coming from a Simulacrum realm
19:11.27ImperiosWhy so? It's not like your opinion does not matter
19:11.32OluapPlayerSo Void Denizens + idkin + Sanguinaries
19:11.40XhoSuppose they would be
19:11.45ImperiosThat would make Outworlders demons too hur
19:11.46OluapPlayerbecause I don't care for the Empire
19:11.56ImperiosWell
19:12.13ImperiosI want to change it so this would change
19:12.17ImperiosSimple as that
19:12.21XhoIf I make a Void Denizen you can make a picture for generalising demons hur
19:12.32OluapPlayerYou should get the opinion of people who are interested in it, not mine
19:12.55XhoThen again Chimera are also Void Denizens
19:13.03ImperiosYou seem to dislike quite a lot of my stuff come to think about it
19:13.07ImperiosWhy's that?
19:13.09XhoI'll just say "unique type of Void Denizen"
19:14.19XhoI dunno how to make a Void Denizen though
19:14.30XhoThey're sort of as diverse in appearance as the Chimera are
19:14.37XhoWell
19:14.41XhoNot really that's a lie
19:15.02XhoI can't put Void Guardians in place because they're a different kind of Void Denizen altogether
19:15.23XhoBah I'll just make something
19:16.21Imperios<PROTECTED>
19:16.37OluapPlayerBecause I have my tastes
19:16.43OluapPlayerAnd these don't fit them
19:16.47OluapPlayerI dislike many things on the wiki
19:17.38ImperiosI just want to understand why most of things you dislike are *mine*
19:17.45ImperiosI must be doing something wrong
19:17.59OluapPlayerWhat you're doing wrong is focusing on pleasing me
19:18.03OluapPlayerI'm not the only person here
19:18.31ImperiosOther people like my stuff, you don't
19:18.56ImperiosHad other people disliked my stuff I would have focused on them
19:20.06OluapPlayeri've expressed my dislike for things multiple times for multiple people, you're not the only one and I'm sure there are parts of my fiction which don't please others
19:20.12OluapPlayerYou can't please everyone
19:20.40ImperiosRiggt, makes sense I guess
19:21.07ImperiosI just can't remember whose stuff you expressed dislike for, out of the major users
19:21.24OluapPlayerWhat I'm saying is stop worring about me and do whatever you feel like doing
19:21.55ImperiosRight
19:22.20ImperiosThen again I were always doinf what I felt like doing, I would be Mush hur
19:22.39OluapPlayerExcept you're not obnoxious hur
19:23.12ImperiosI am just trying to remember
19:23.34ImperiosWhat else did you dislike? Sorry if I annoy you, just to check
19:24.23OluapPlayerNothing else
19:25.06ImperiosI mean among the community in general, not me
19:25.16ImperiosImportant users in particulsr
19:25.18Imperios*ar
19:26.51OluapPlayerif you really want to know then I'll tell you private since saying it here would cause a shitstorm
19:27.41Imperiosrite
19:27.56ImperiosGo on
19:30.27ImperiosOkay I'll be honest
19:31.09ImperiosI mostly ask this because I always feel inadequate for some reason hur
19:33.39ImperiosHow is one supposed to improve one's self-esteem anyway?
19:34.10MonetIts possible.
19:34.19MonetYou need to somehow find a way to be more confident in your own abilities
19:34.19XhoGet naked
19:34.53OluapPlayerhe sed self-esteem not dong
19:35.19ImperiosExpand self-esteem
19:35.31XhoI didn't say I was known for giving out good advice
19:35.34OluapPlayerEXPAND SELF
19:37.28Xhohttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/225/275/tumblr_lwkn32ZtAM1qzb8j3.gif This gif comes to mind
19:37.41ImperiosIt's just that I am generally kinda useless
19:38.17ImperiosNot good at RPs, not a great RP organiser either
19:38.26ImperiosAnd there was thar D&D party hur
19:38.37XhoYou would be better at RPs if you moved faster
19:38.49Imperios'UNTIE ME DAMMIT'
19:38.57OluapPlayerUSSLSS
19:38.59ImperiosBasically
19:39.12ImperiosXho: We were tied by kobolds
19:39.14OluapPlayerWell that wasn't your fault
19:39.18OluapPlayerThat was the dice's fault
19:39.23ImperiosEveryone else fought and killed people
19:39.33ImperiosI could not even untie myself hur
19:39.56MonetI threw some Kobolds your way didn't I?
19:40.03OluapPlayerYou did
19:40.25OluapPlayerMonet killed 8, Hachi killed 5, I killed 2, Randomness killed 1
19:40.33OluapPlayerAnd Imperios killed zero whole kobolds
19:40.58MonetNot my fault the kobolds were too feeble to withstand being thrown against one another
19:41.18OluapPlayerYour throwing will join Shambles in the "golden moments" list
19:41.55Xhohttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/621/571/c7e.jpg IRC in one picture
19:42.09OluapPlayerIt's funny because it's true
19:43.31Xhohttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/300/394/eb0.gif I think I just found myself in a gif
19:45.03ImperiosXhades
19:46.36Xhohttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/703/706/7df.gif Norrigan
19:47.39OluapPlayerolol
19:48.57Monet"For Kvatch!" *dies 5 secodns later*
19:55.06MonetOluap in regards to you being stuck on the Merovar Dynasty, perhaps the community can help
19:55.29ImperiosAye
19:55.53MonetI'd say making them an empire of merchants was smart; Nothern Africa and the Middle East were once home to some of the wealthiest and most well-connected empires of the ancient and medieval world
19:56.47OluapPlayerMy idea is that they're buddies with everyone and as such have a huge economy
19:58.17MonetHmm.
19:58.35XhoShiarchon - just give us your first borns and we'll be cool
19:59.05MonetHaving access to exotic treasures is good for making friends
19:59.55OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Krm_4kR98s in an unrelated note, this is where "fuk u woman" comes from
20:01.09XhoOh dear I remember this
20:02.04MonetDid a spy really jsut say "lol"?
20:02.09OluapPlayerMore like LAL
20:02.12Xhoheh
20:02.22XhoI'M GOING TO FUCK YOU LIKE A CORNISH GAME FAT MAN
20:02.31OluapPlayer*SUCK ALL OF YOUR DICKS
20:02.42Xhoy u do dis
20:02.51OluapPlayerAnyway, even with this, I don't know how to make the Dynasty look like a desert nation
20:03.32ImperiosWell
20:03.55ImperiosTry to think what their agriculture would be like
20:04.49MonetContrary to the stereotype, these "cities in the middle of the desert" were often surrounded by acres of fertile ground
20:04.51Xhohttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/612/430/590.gif Meanwhile
20:05.16OluapPlayerhur
20:06.27MonetThe arabs were really good at channelling water to where it was needed
20:07.46OluapPlayerSo the Merovar should have good agriculture
20:07.50OluapPlayerRemember they're not only in the desert
20:08.00OluapPlayerThey also have cities in the Tropical Lands and Eastern Plains
20:08.20OluapPlayerImperios: Hachi can't join IRC atm but he asked if you could remake the Gnoll model
20:09.38Imperiosrite
20:10.09ImperiosAlso imagine how they would transport their good across the land
20:10.46MonetYeah their trade network looks legely inland
20:11.21dromBehold! I'm back now!
20:12.35MonetI could offer sand draos to help (say, Sand Draos who either decided to live close to Merovar settlements or slaves bought from the Khep). But the latter might be detrmantal to Merovar-Sand Drao relations
20:12.51Monetlatter source*
20:13.56OluapPlayerWell they wouldn't have bought slaves from the Khep
20:14.00OluapPlayerThem and the Merovar are arch-enemies
20:14.15MonetOkay that makes things a lot easier
20:14.41ImperiosAs in, what transport would they use
20:14.58OluapPlayerCaravans I imagine
20:15.04ImperiosSince they aren't good riders they'll probably have vehicles like chariots or caravans
20:15.12MonetSand Draeos as a rule of thumb wish not to live like their mountain kind.
20:16.19MonetSo there's a chance that a few gain respect for the odd Merovar merchants and act as a triple-act companion, mount and aid with carrying stuff
20:16.20OluapPlayerbrb
20:42.08OluapPlayerback
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20:45.37Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe/Bestiary
20:45.37OfficerJackalHello!
20:45.38Technobliteratoroooooh
20:45.42Technobliteratorme gusta mucho
20:45.54Technobliteratorbut I think we can reformat that page to make it prettier
20:47.32dromWoop woop. http://i.imgur.com/MOfVafP.png
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20:57.17XhoOluapPlayer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=259296030
20:57.34OluapPlayerThe power of angelic MeeMing
20:59.00XhoThere's a good indicator that my computer is good
20:59.09XhoSuper DoF doesn't slow down my computer
20:59.17XhoThe plight of Gmodders = Super DoF
21:00.33OluapPlayerhur
21:00.39Technobliteratordo you want me to post my idea for the reformat on the talk page?
21:02.55OluapPlayerYes
21:03.06Technobliteratoralright
21:03.18Technobliteratorit will be full of code (which is typical of me) and no tabbers
21:03.20Xho"Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other; does this taste funny to you?"
21:03.37Technobliteratorahaha :D
21:03.45Technobliteratordark humour ftw
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21:10.19TekDroidHello
21:12.38XhoOkay my existential crisis was over
21:12.43XhoI didn't know whether Conchita Wurst was female or male
21:12.50XhoTurns out it's a guy in drag
21:13.17OluapPlayerOverreacing hur
21:13.27OluapPlayerreacting even
21:13.46XhoI don't usually care about drag queens but Conchita Wurst was really confusing me
21:13.54XhoWhether it was a bearded woman or a guy dressed up
21:13.57XhoI just didn't get it
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21:17.18XhoSo, some guy said he couldn't headbang along to Korn song
21:17.25XhoObviously has never listened to Meshuggah
21:18.10Technobliteratoractually I had another listen to Koloss today
21:18.28TechnobliteratorI think my favourite song is either Don't Look Done or the Break Bones one? dunno though
21:18.47Xho"don't look done"
21:18.53XhoAs a Meshuggah fan I feel broken by this
21:19.16Technobliterator*down
21:19.18Technobliteratorit was a typo :(
21:19.29XhoIT BETTER HAVE BEEN
21:20.29dromXho: I found some cheap repecies. Some of them has cheese. http://imgur.com/gallery/4R74u
21:21.03Xhochees
21:21.20Technobliteratordon't look done woul;dn't make much sense
21:21.26dromhttp://i.imgur.com/ihhXfWx.jpg
21:21.37XhoI think Don't Look Down is probably my favourite Meshuggah song to play on guitar
21:21.42XhoAfter Perpetual Black Second
21:22.03Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK6mBu-nZjo Which is this song
21:23.01dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/xCU78
21:27.20dromI wonder why do my Sony Vegas 11 spit out 240p versions of my 1080 videos when I tell it to render a 1080p quality video.
21:28.27XhoThat's usually the preview quality
21:28.33XhoIsn't it?
21:28.54dromYeah.
21:29.12dromI don't know what I'm doing wrong. Or it just hates me.
21:29.22dromSo I have to hate it too.
21:32.15dromUrgh, staring on my "Naakjian Elite" just increases my insanity and temper to publish it on dA.
21:32.52dromI gotta be going. Have fun.
21:32.52Xhohur
21:33.18Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Libic29tjbs This is probably one of the only RubberFruit videos I like
21:33.47OluapPlayerThat's RubberFruit's last good video
21:34.30XhoAnd, unfortunately he wasn't responsible for the music or the sentence mix
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21:34.42WormyHi
21:34.55XhoMegaGFilms is probably my favourite at the moment
21:34.56XhoHello
21:42.14Xhohttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Solange_Knowles&diff=608284413&oldid=608259827 Oh god lol
21:43.03Xho"Jay Z's 100th Problem"
21:44.02Technobliteratorlol
21:44.06Technobliteratoroh god uh
21:44.15Technobliteratordoes anyone know what the collapsible table class is called on this wiki?
21:44.22Technobliteratorbeen a long time since I used this wiki's one
21:44.35XhoHell I dunno
21:44.42Xhohttp://farm1.static.flickr.com/228/501241578_caaa1cb502.jpg?v=0 Oh I remember this when it was done
21:45.21Technobliteratornvm
21:45.27Technobliteratoranyways
21:45.29Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki_talk:Fantasy_Universe/Bestiary idea here
21:46.23XhoThat works
21:47.33Technobliteratorthe table, or the second idea?
21:48.00XhoTable
21:48.05XhoDunno what the second idea is on about
21:50.09Technobliteratoroh, second idea was just if you wanted a way to list different types of creatures
21:50.25Technobliteratoranyway; I can reformat it to be like this, it's just I'd need approval from more peopl
21:50.26Technobliteratore
21:53.31XhoI like the table on
21:53.33Xho*one
21:53.37XhoHm
21:53.42XhoI could make some real torment out of people for guessing my sexuality by doing some really flamboyant things now that I think of it
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21:54.17GD12Hello
21:54.35Technobliteratorhey GD12
21:54.45Technobliteratorwell, I thought you were hetero?
21:55.08XhoI don't know really
21:55.22XhoI'm not gay but I don't find myself that attracted to females either
21:55.41GD12then you're asexual?
21:55.43Technobliteratorhm, well my friend was similar for a while, then he suddenly found himself attracted to a girl
21:55.49Technobliteratorno, it's not asexual, that's non-sexual
21:55.56Technobliteratorasexual implies you produce on your own
21:55.57Technobliterator:P
21:55.58GD12Yeah
21:56.01GD12Well
21:56.03GD12I mean
21:56.06GD12Xho can make miniXhos
21:56.12Xhohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality
21:56.16GD12Asexuality (or nonsexuality)[1][2][3] is the lack of sexual attraction to anyone or low or absent interest in sexual activity.[4][5][6] It may be considered the lack of a sexual orientation,
21:56.21Technobliteratoror am I completely wrong? :|
21:56.22GD12actually i was right hur
21:56.33Technobliteratorwell
21:56.34XhoI have a very low interest in sexual activity I guess
21:56.43XhoLike, abysmally low
21:56.56GD12That or perhaps you haven't found someone compatible
21:57.06Technobliteratorthat's better than being a pervert who wanks off porn daily though
21:57.10Technobliteratorso I guess it's a good thing?
21:57.36GD12Evolutionarily its not a good thing to not be attracted to anyone unless you need to contain your genetics
21:57.39GD12Xho just needs to find a mate
21:57.49GD12*mating partner not friend as mate means in british usage
21:58.00Technobliteratoror it could imply a lack of interest in passing his genes on?
21:58.19GD12I think its more psychological than physiological
21:58.39GD12idk
21:58.54GD12Xho : Have you ever been attracted to anyone?
21:59.09XhoIf I have, I don't remember
21:59.55WormyThere may be some weird side advantage to asrexual genes, sure they reproduce less, but it is how those genes get passed on
22:00.03GD12I seriously recall you did like last year or before my first hiatus
22:00.11GD12Because you talked about this person you met in Japan
22:00.15GD12or something like that
22:00.20XhoAh I remember that now
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22:00.35XhoErm, well, not now
22:00.54Jepardihttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/575/886/47e.jpg
22:01.00GD12i see.
22:01.08XhoThing is with me, the smallest of flaws in a person is enough to make me go "GET AWAY FROM ME OR YOU WILL DIE"
22:01.16GD12Yeah so thats not asexuality
22:01.21GD12Thats just exceedingly high standards
22:01.51GD12Asexuality implies that there does not exist a mate of any gender with any set of traits that you are attracted too
22:01.57XhoOh that's true
22:01.58XhoI mean
22:02.04XhoI have never found anyone similar to me
22:02.33GD12Yeah, well that doesn't mean a person with the set of characteristics doesn't exist, it just means that you haven't been lucky enough to find them yet.
22:02.48Wormy<PROTECTED>
22:03.05XhoI've had girls who have been attracted to me before
22:03.15XhoThough, well, girls aren't very good at reading me
22:03.32XhoWhich is a shame because it gets annoying after ten seconds
22:03.42Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10252028_2194547093933863_4078034266986601701_n.png
22:04.14GD12Hur
22:04.16GD12chemistry joke
22:04.33Xhohttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1939730_723837747659680_3107675118327764388_n.jpg Just saw this in a comment
22:04.51GD12wat
22:04.52Xhohttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1622233_2194538003934772_1024492843660323466_n.jpg Item of interest
22:05.05XhoI'm a guy and that made me shudder
22:05.25GD12ngh
22:05.30GD12thats the dead space thing
22:05.39TechnobliteratorI've had my fair share of boyfriends, but I don't want to commit to relationships anymore
22:05.55Technobliteratorthey just...don't work for me? :/
22:06.12GD12I've had one girlfriend before but thats my only long term thing.
22:06.34GD12One girlfriend aside from my computer/maths :)
22:07.49GD12DrodoEmpire : nice critique of relica
22:07.51XhoBet that was nice
22:07.51XhoNot
22:08.00TechnobliteratorI had a few shitty relationships and one decent one, the others were just dates
22:08.08GD12Its nice for the first few weeks
22:08.13Technobliteratordates work better, they're fun and short and then you can forget it after
22:08.21GD12But then incompatibility differences make it rather shitty later
22:08.27TechnobliteratorI've had one major crush for years though
22:08.29GD12*long term
22:08.46GD12#thatonetimeontheircwheneveryoneistalkingaboutrelationships
22:11.13Technobliterator:D
22:11.58DrodoEmpireGD12: Thanks, I enjoyed writing it. XD
22:12.16DrodoEmpireSorry about the late response; Had to leave to get something
22:12.20GD12no problem
22:12.29GD12This was probably one of the more awkward IRC conversations we've had
22:14.01XhoThe only thing I found awkward is trying not to laugh when your friend falls on the floor and hurts himself
22:14.19XhoYou're all like "Are you alright?" when you really want to go "HA"
22:14.32XhoAnd now I'm tired
22:15.39GD12le blargh
22:16.30GD12random question, does anybody know how the nasa land crawler manages not to crack whatever road it travels on?
22:16.56Technobliteratornope
22:17.04GD12Im trying to figure out how heavy vehicles in fiction would be able to travel on anything and not crush the ground
22:18.35GD12without the use of handwavium hur
22:22.22GD12actually fuk dat
22:22.28Technobliteratorok so I have a russian history exam tomorrow it seems
22:22.32Technobliteratorwait, not tomorrow
22:22.33Technobliteratorthe day after
22:22.34Technobliteratorphew
22:22.57GD12sounds fun
22:22.59GD12wait
22:23.03GD12is that a british a level thing?
22:23.12Technobliteratoryeah
22:23.16GD12i see
22:24.45GD12how many a leels can one take?
22:25.13Technobliterator4 AS levels, then 3 A levels
22:25.24TechnobliteratorI do History, Music Technology, Spanish and Philosophy
22:25.51GD12whats the difference between an as level and an a level?
22:26.48TechnobliteratorAS is the year before full A level, it's slightly easier
22:26.56GD12ahh i see
22:27.03Technobliteratorbasically, AS is half an A level
22:27.08GD12so you only have 3 a level exams then?
22:27.18GD12but before that 4 as level subjects
22:27.25GD123 of which are the a levels youll take later on
22:27.26Technobliterator3 A level subjects, but they might consist of more than one exam
22:27.29Technobliteratoryeah
22:27.36TechnobliteratorI did my Philosophy AS level exam today
22:27.47GD12i see
22:28.29GD12If i was British I'd probably do AS Math Computing Physics and History
22:28.36Technobliteratormy second Philosophy AS is on Friday
22:28.38GD12then my A levels would be Math Computing Physics
22:28.40GD12ahh i see
22:28.49TechnobliteratorI can't do Maths ._.
22:28.53GD12hurhur
22:29.02Technobliteratorit's too hard for my poor blonde brain
22:29.49Technobliteratoralright, time up
22:29.50Technobliteratorgotta go
22:29.54Technobliteratorsee ya :D
22:29.58GD12right
22:30.00GD12cya
22:30.24WormyGD:  Jo likes epistemology!
22:30.47WormyI must say, it ranks high on my list of interests.
22:30.55GD12YAY
22:31.06GD12Another one to join the epistemology gang
22:31.26WormyYou'd like Dabdid Deutsch's books and videos
22:31.32WormyI must say again
22:32.00TekDroidI'll be going off to university for Software Engineering next year.
22:32.08WormyHe uses knowledge and epistemology as a fourth strand of his "fabric of reality"
22:32.44WormyWewll done TekDroid
22:32.49GD12Hence i said i'd get around to reading it some time
22:33.18TekDroid...jeez. I'm turning 18 this Friday
22:33.30GD12Happy early bday then
22:33.44WormyAh, you are reminding me of my fresher year
22:33.57GD12I'll probably do dual computer science and math/theoretical physics or something with a minor in classics
22:34.08WormyBasically me getting drunk a lot
22:34.40GD12huhu
22:34.41TekDroidDrinking age is 19 in Ontario.
22:34.48GD12drinking age is 21 in muhdrica
22:35.30GD12right im going to try and figure out weights for dominatus vehicles
22:35.37WormyI hope to study Planetary Science one day.  I'm doing geology but I also love astrophysics.  And planetary scientists do both.
22:35.37GD12all of which probably suffer from obesity
22:35.47GD12Astrophysics has so much math tho
22:35.50TekDroidThough I'll be Ottawa which means if you drive across the river the drinking age is 18. I'm sure most freshmen do that. XD
22:35.58WormySo does geophysics
22:36.04Wormyand geochem
22:36.44WormyGeologists use complex numbers and calculus and all sorts
22:37.06GD12Aye, but astrophysics requires tensors/PDE etc
22:38.54GD12or maybe im just thinking about the GR part
22:39.02WormyI've heard of geophysicists having to do quantum mechanical corrections and the like
22:39.09GD12i c
22:40.59MonetHallo
22:41.04WormyPartial differential equations, complex analysis (and fourier analysis), phase spaces etc.
22:41.27TekDroidHello Monet
22:41.39GD12Hello
22:41.44GD12Aye all the fun stuff
22:42.27MonetWas watching this documentary on George II and his wife Caroline
22:42.47MonetTurns out there's a bit of history as to why England has not abolished the monarchy
22:42.56GD12Ooh, whats the reason?
22:44.02WormyI'm watching a program where this guy visits people with superhuman powers
22:44.33MonetWell during the 1710s, Caroline's son Frederick was a real people's prince.
22:45.10TekDroidThat was during the English Restoration, or do I have my times wrong?
22:45.21MonetHe wrotep lays, supported the arts, when the first PM tried to put a tax on gin he joined several Londoners into a local pub and bought a glass for himself
22:51.23GD12i see
22:51.50GD12I find it quite amazing how the NASA crawler transporters can move even with a total load of like 10,000 tons
22:52.07GD122700 tons of crawler and like 8000 of rocket
22:53.04MonetDon't they move really really slowly though?
22:53.18GD121.6 kmph loaded
22:53.55MonetAnd I think I heard somewhere that fuel efficiency is something like 8 inches per gallon
22:54.30GD12aye i was contemplating that when i fiured the dimensions out for dominatus veicles
22:55.04GD12thats why i was contemplating the crawlers
22:55.19WormyDon't have them use primitive Earth fuel
22:55.26GD12exactly
22:55.34GD12but im also referring to hydraulics
22:56.01TekDroidEven with fully optimized fuel has limits from fuel energy density and requirements
22:56.38TekDroidSquare Cube Law certainly applies.
22:56.59GD12aye
22:57.37GD12id lovde to have a battle in the mud
22:58.11WormyYou've just reminded me of that mudfest planet in star WRS
22:58.16GD12umm
22:58.20GD12i remember that
22:58.37TekDroidDagobah? On something EU?
22:58.48GD12jabbim
22:59.02TekDroidAh, I've heard of that.
22:59.25GD12Jabiim was a world deluged by torrential rains, experiencing less than five days per standard year without precipitation. Its muddy surface constantly shifted from the weight of the rains. Jabiim was also rich in ore, although by the time of the Battle of Yavin, the valuable ores were dwindling. During the Clone Wars, Jabiim was a world that the Galactic Republic ignored until it was too late.
22:59.43Wormyhttp://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Jabiim
22:59.43TekDroidI think the only picture of it I saw was Durge shoving Kenobi's face in the mud.
23:01.42GD12my way of getting vehicle dimensions was this
23:01.51GD12pick any earth main battle tank you like
23:02.20GD12now divide your creature height by human height
23:03.00GD12multiply all dimensions by that constant
23:03.11GD12you get each dimension
23:03.16GD12now get volume by multiplying those together
23:03.27GD12divided that by earth tank volume
23:03.32GD12multiply that by earth tank mass
23:03.33GD12voila
23:03.36TekDroidWhich serve as a very good approximation.
23:03.36GD12now you have tank
23:03.51GD12then you can mess around with density and other small numbers for flavor
23:20.00TekDroidDamn it... I think the end of my charger got worn out... It's not charging.  D: %&-*@*"&#!
23:21.00TekDroidNo wait... It's not the plug.
23:21.32GD12hurudr
23:22.05TekDroidSeems I've bent the end of the cable one too many times... if I don’t keep ot straight it stops working.
23:22.33TekDroidaka damn, I probably shouldn't wrap up my charger like that
23:34.01Wormybye
23:34.40GD12ye
23:35.59GD12ngh the problem with this formula is that its giving me pretty crazy numbers
23:36.15GD12though by the assumptions i made they are perfectly reasonable
23:36.19GD12damn square cube law
23:37.08MonetDominatus too big?
23:38.18GD12Drakodominatus too big hur
23:40.43GD12and thats using the assumption that the average human is 2 meters tall :(
23:40.49GD12we arent all vikings hur
23:43.17TekDroidmust be a viking then
23:43.38GD12wat
23:43.45GD12ur 2 meters tall?
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23:44.11TekDroidNo wait, close but not quite.
23:44.40GD12I'm like 1.87 meters
23:45.17TekDroidYeah, roughly the same here.
23:45.27GD12the heighest average nba height is 2.0223 meters
23:45.39GD12so my assumption was the average human tank driver was a tall nba player :P
23:46.03GD12Shooting hoops translates to shooting tanks
23:46.09DrodoEmpirehur
23:47.22quark8but tanks seem easier
23:47.28GD12hurhur
23:47.45GD12we were talking about a formula i came up with for determening the dimensions (length/width/mass) of tanks
23:48.27GD12and i was complaining about the sizes it gave me huhu
23:49.43GD12I've posted counters to all my vehicles tho hur
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23:57.07Hachimanhai
23:57.37GD12hai u
23:57.48DrodoEmpireHey
23:58.18GD12we were discussing a tank formula i made as well as its other stoof :p

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