IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140421

00:00.07Tek0516DroidWould anyone object to Rurionia discovering the New World? They're the freen one on the penninsula wity the island colony
00:00.16Tek0516Droid*green
00:00.23AdmiralPandanot really
00:00.31HachimanI wouldn't be
00:00.40MonetAngrybirds_: I'm tempted to ask perhaps Wescolia could have contributed
00:01.32Tek0516DroidIt could have been a joint venture
00:01.38MonetTrue
00:01.59MonetGiven their desperation for new resources, The drive for exlporation could have been high
00:02.11Tek0516DroidOf course at the time Rurionia would still be in a union
00:02.15Angrybirds_Though let's not forget that Rurenia is led by the Morcian heir.
00:02.48Angrybirds_Maybe the discovery was made at the same time with two different expeditions?
00:04.36Liquid_InkOr maybe EVERYBODY discovered it individually but will now for eternity bicker over who it was.
00:05.13Zmr56http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421000435/spore/images/3/3d/Dnalba_Flag.png ta da
00:05.26Tek0516DroidWell the firdt to discover would probably start colonizing fairly quicjly
00:05.31Tek0516Droid*quickly
00:05.41AdmiralPandaHellenia wouldn't have discovered it, they'd have gone "ooh new place, let's find a way to exploit it for money"
00:06.04HachimanZmr56: yiss thank u
00:06.20DrodoEmpireAdmiralPanda: That's what every European was thinking. XD
00:06.34AdmiralPandabasically :P
00:06.50Tek0516DroidThe initial discover(s) would probably set up claims quickly with a screw you warning to everyone else
00:07.14XhoAdmiralPanda: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10014906_737628709592865_8946359455930713380_n.jpg
00:07.25AdmiralPandaI wonder, since Hellenia is an island power, would they have the most effective merchant navy
00:07.35Tek0516DroidOne of the most.
00:07.43Tek0516DroidProbably
00:07.45AdmiralPandaas in people wanting to move supplies would hire ships from Hellenia if they wanted reliability
00:07.57AdmiralPandaXho: dohoho
00:08.08MonetPerhaps for the more continental powers.
00:08.19MonetThe island powers may prefer using their own vessels
00:08.36Tek0516DroidSize is always a limuting factor of navy size
00:08.38DrodoEmpire^
00:08.44Tek0516Droid*coast size
00:09.46Tek0516DroidThe small island nations are the ones more likely to hire.
00:09.53DrodoEmpireSo a big element of this fictionverse'll be time; that is, how fast ir progresses.
00:10.27DrodoEmpireSo that said the timescale should be faster then the main fictionverses; Perhaps something like a month a year? Just a wild estimate
00:11.14Tek0516DroidRemember it also can take months to cross the ocean
00:11.26DrodoEmpireRight
00:11.44DrodoEmpireSo maybe we really want to compress the timeline. :P What does everyone think?
00:11.49Tek0516DroidAgreed
00:12.01Angrybirds_Agreed
00:12.01DrodoEmpireA month? A week? A day? A year for a year? XD
00:12.19Tek0516DroidIt doesn't necessarily need to be set in stone
00:12.33DrodoEmpireI suppose; I just feel it might be better for something like thois
00:12.36DrodoEmpire*this
00:13.07Tek0516DroidA RL month is a year seems like a fair amount though
00:13.18DrodoEmpireYeah, I agree
00:13.21Angrybirds_^
00:13.33Angrybirds_So right now we should be January 1, 1700.
00:13.41DrodoEmpireYep
00:13.59Tek0516DroidWe can always jump or compress as necessary.
00:14.12Angrybirds_When was the New World discovered?
00:14.24DrodoEmpire1690's perhaps?
00:14.27Tek0516Droid1492, duh. :P
00:14.30DrodoEmpirehur
00:14.44Tek0516DroidSorry, 2014. :P
00:14.46Tek0516Droidbrb
00:14.47XhoWhat exactly is this map
00:15.00DrodoEmpireIts for the BNWverse
00:15.07XhoThat's a new one
00:15.09DrodoEmpirehttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140420052120/spore/images/f/fa/Old_World_3.png
00:15.15XhoBNWverse?
00:15.23DrodoEmpireBrave New World
00:15.26Angrybirds_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Clanden/Brave_New_World
00:15.29DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Clanden/Brave_New_World
00:15.34DrodoEmpireBah, beat me to it
00:15.39Zmr56wut
00:15.41Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Clanden/Brave_New_World
00:15.43XhoRight
00:15.58Zmr56is tempted to post the link again
00:16.06DrodoEmpirenoh
00:17.23Liquid_InkWe is need to get god damn civverse up and running!
00:18.07DrodoEmpireSo so far we have the Scifiverse, Fantasyverse, Eurocentrismverse, yeah, we DO need a civverse!
00:18.39Liquid_InkWe had that idea before the Eurocentrismverse.
00:19.07Angrybirds_I'm thinking it was discovered late 1500's-early 1600's. There would probably be some very early colonies set up which would basically look like this: http://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2013/11/jamestown-colony-H.jpeg
00:21.06Tek0516DroidKeep in mind European covered a lot of the Earth within decades of the initial discovery
00:21.32Angrybirds_Maybe early 1600's, then.
00:21.46DrodoEmpire^
00:22.21Angrybirds_Who wants to send out explorers and in what direction? :P (I'll lift the fog of war as you go)
00:22.37Liquid_InkDrodoEmpire; You forgot the mirrorverse
00:23.15DrodoEmpireBelgica would send them Westwards, a bit to the south
00:23.19Zmr56I'll be heading northwest of my territories
00:23.23Tek0516DroidAngrybirds_: I'll probably mostly go Northwest
00:23.28Tybusenhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421002313/spore/images/6/6b/Hausgran_Flag.png Voile
00:23.46TybusenI took the two coat of arms from online sources, BTW, I didn't make them myself.
00:24.09DrodoEmpireTime to make Belgica's Fiction page
00:25.53Tek0516DroidI'll get on that tonight.
00:26.52Tek0516DroidI presume we're going to skip that papal bull which granted Spain most of the New World?
00:27.26Tek0516Droid:P
00:27.34DrodoEmpirehur
00:28.00DrodoEmpireSo there's going to be no tiers, are there?
00:28.47Angrybirds_I think there are going to be tech groups, kind of like in EU.
00:28.52DrodoEmpireYeah
00:28.55Tek0516DroidIIRC, French colonization of America was basically to say "screw you" to Spain.
00:29.21DrodoEmpireI was thinking something like that too. :P
00:29.27Angrybirds_A lot of things that the French did were to give the middle finger to someone.
00:29.33Tek0516Droid^
00:29.36Tek0516DroidXD
00:29.39DrodoEmpirehur
00:29.51Angrybirds_*France places the Roreinian Embassy on a street named after the guy who beat them at the Battle of Persephonie*
00:30.08DrodoEmpireLOL
00:30.09DrodoEmpireXD
00:30.18TekDroid-.-
00:30.28MonetAngrybirds: Wescolia will be sending ships directly westwards
00:31.20TekDroidThat partially claimed islamds will probably take a full claim.
00:31.25Liquid_Inkhttp://sugarbooty.tumblr.com/post/83314905425 'murica!
00:31.37Zmr56Angry: I might what to go directly west insetad
00:32.28TekDroidWe need someone to go East too. :P
00:32.52TekDroidUntil we have BNW! Magellan, at least
00:34.39TybusenHausgran would probably try to go southwest of that part of the New World that was already discovered
00:35.23Zmr56I'll just go along the equator in one straight line
00:35.48TekDroidThe New World is on the Equator. :P
00:36.03Angrybirds_Alright. :P I'll reveal the fog of war for you guys in those areas.
00:36.07Zmr56has moment of stupidity
00:36.08TekDroidYou'll have to deviate eventually
00:36.16DrodoEmpireWhat would be a fair count for Belgica's population?
00:36.28DrodoEmpireTwo million? A bit more?
00:36.34DrodoEmpireA bit less?
00:37.09Zmr566 million?
00:37.17TekDroidA lot of big population growth didn't happen until corn and potatoes were discovered, so that's one factor to keep in mind.
00:37.50TekDroidAngrybirds_: You know any of those population statistics?
00:38.30DrodoEmpireZmr: Sounds fair, thanks
00:38.58TekDroidBritish population was something like 5 million around this time
00:39.15Angrybirds_TekDroid : I have no idea.
00:39.16Tybusen15-20 million was France's population prior to the Black Plague
00:40.02TekDroidHere's a sample estimate for England at the time: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hitch/gendocs/pop.html
00:40.15DrodoEmpireTek: Well One of the reasons why Belgica's getting into the colonial race is that it has had a recent population explosion due to crop yields, so yeah, its getting pretty crowded. :P
00:40.54TekDroidThen that works.
00:41.07TekDroidWhich one's Belgica?
00:41.31Angrybirds_Yellow
00:41.32DrodoEmpireThe tiny tan/khaki-coloured island south of pseudo-Britain
00:41.43DrodoEmpire(Sorry Monet I forgot the name for a sec)
00:41.51HachimanWestolia hur
00:41.56DrodoEmpireRight
00:42.05MonetWescolia
00:42.09HachimanAye Wescolia
00:42.14Zmr56I guess I would have a population of 11 million
00:42.20TekDroidSo all the Yellow part then?
00:42.36DrodoEmpireYes.
00:42.50TekDroidAnd which were you Zmr?
00:43.14Zmr56dark red
00:43.33HachimanRight so I've decided to call BNW!Japan Yamato, now I just need a name for their empire
00:43.49HachimanI could be really generic and go "Empire of Yamato" but that sounds uninteresting
00:44.20Zmr56Goasto?
00:44.20Tybusenech now you have two Yamato empires
00:44.43HachimanYes but BNW!Yamato isn't ruled by an Emperor Yamato
00:45.06HachimanIt's ruled currently by the Byakuya Dynasty
00:45.31DrodoEmpireSo perhaps the international currency (for trading and the like) is the Ducat? :P
00:45.41Liquid_InkNo, the Dukat!
00:45.44DrodoEmpireIt was popular at the time, and had been for centuries
00:45.55DrodoEmpire?
00:46.05Liquid_Inkhttp://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Dukat
00:47.06MonetWe can always call it the Ducat for alternate-reality reasons
00:47.29MonetOr maybe we have a currency named after a city on the continent?
00:47.30HachimanWhy not the Tacud
00:47.47DrodoEmpireLiquid http://studentstartupnetwork.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/archaic-rap-cool-story-bro-meme.jpg
00:48.36DrodoEmpireMonet: Maybe, yeah
00:50.03Angrybirds_This be what your navigators discover: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140420052120/spore/images/f/fa/Old_World_3.png
00:50.42Zmr56I see no difference
00:50.43Liquid_InkAnybody editing the page? I don't want edit conflicts when I add my glorious empire!
00:51.01Angrybirds_Which page?
00:51.13DrodoEmpireSame as Zmr
00:51.15Liquid_InkThe Brave New World page
00:51.15Angrybirds_Keep refreshing.
00:51.26Angrybirds_It's a blog, I'm not sure you can edit it.
00:51.27Liquid_InkOh wait
00:51.30Liquid_InkIt's a blog
00:51.31Liquid_InkDerp
00:51.45Liquid_Inkpanishes himself for silliness.
00:51.49DrodoEmpireOh, there it is
00:52.12HachimanOh dear, I just realized that if I set Yamato on the Northeastern Peninsula it's gonna be all alone
00:52.52Zmr56What if my expedition was a joint one with someone else's empire?
00:54.25Angrybirds_I'm tempted to go about it this way: Depending on your population, you get to lay down x number of pixel of colony per in-game month.
00:54.32Angrybirds_Or in-game yea.
00:54.34Angrybirds_year*
00:54.55DrodoEmpireWould be interesting
00:55.04Angrybirds_Modified by logic and resources.
00:55.19Liquid_Inkhttp://31.media.tumblr.com/a16a8ecc48fcf53b1bb3cdc74678886d/tumblr_n1qvd3zAWk1tu4g2mo1_500.jpg NSFWish
00:55.31Liquid_InkThere's no nudity, but a very scantily clad woman
00:55.40Hachimanolol
00:56.02Angrybirds_How do you guys propose that work?
00:56.08DrodoEmpireI like it
00:56.12TekDroidWorks
00:56.14HachimanSounds okayish, I guess
00:58.09DrodoEmpireHachi anything you think could be better with it? It sounds fair enough to me assuming that the amount of population needed isn't too restrictive
00:58.35HachimanNah I can't think of anything
00:58.39Angrybirds_An expedition takes a year and you can either map out a region or an expanse of sea. What if we limit it to two such expeditions per year? Land expeditions tell you what resources a region has to offer (allowing you to make an informed decision about whether or not to colonize it), while sea expeditions allow you to find more land.
00:58.49Zmr56I can do with it
00:58.53DrodoEmpireAlright
00:59.22Zmr56I might go looking for natives
00:59.40DrodoEmpire^
00:59.55DrodoEmpireSpeaking of which I'll probably make a few Native nations. :P
01:00.06DrodoEmpireOnce we get to that point
01:00.08Angrybirds_Doo it. Relations with these would be essential.
01:00.14Zmr56I would like to make a Aztec/Inca empire
01:00.27MonetI'm looking forward t othis
01:00.31DrodoEmpire^^^^^
01:00.38HachimanI wanna make something like Apaches
01:00.38TekDroidAlso remember despite media native civilizations weren't completely primitive
01:00.43DrodoEmpire^
01:00.51Angrybirds_So how many million per pixel per year?
01:01.10DrodoEmpireThey where very advanced politically and had ingenious methods of survival.
01:01.16HachimanSo we'd have Aztec/Inca natives fighting/working alongside American Indian natives hur
01:01.34DrodoEmpireWithout there expertise the Europeans would have been dead
01:01.57TekDroidThe main reason Europeans could steamroll them was 90% of then dying to smallpox
01:02.04DrodoEmpire^
01:02.27Hachimanbtw can dinosaurs still exist in certain parts
01:02.28HachimanOr some certain species of prehistoric animals
01:02.32MonetEuropean - THank you for saving us from certain death, have some syphalis in thanks.
01:02.49DrodoEmpireIf that weren't the case then its actually somewhat likely that native nations would still exist today
01:02.51TekDroidMost native populations were near extinct a century later
01:02.57Angrybirds_I'd say 1 million = one pixel every IRL month, modified by access to ships, food, etc?
01:03.07DrodoEmpireSounds good
01:03.11TekDroidMonet: IIRC, syphillis was American?
01:03.13HachimanOOOH
01:03.16HachimanI wanna make BNW!Egyptians
01:03.20Zmr56Seems sutible
01:03.41Angrybirds_That'd be awesome with the Ottomans next door. :D
01:03.44DrodoEmpireThough quick question, how many pixels is Belgica?
01:03.48MonetI think it did exist in Euroep around the 1500s, but they might not have known what it was
01:03.54DrodoEmpireJust for reference
01:04.00Zmr56Bakistan: hai gonna rek ya m8
01:04.15HachimanAlso who developed gunpowder
01:04.21DrodoEmpireChinese
01:04.25HachimanNo I meant
01:04.26HachimanIn BNW
01:04.30DrodoEmpireOh. XD
01:04.51TekDroidWe could keep the asian origins still
01:04.52Angrybirds_DrodoEmpire : Somewhere around fifty.
01:05.09DrodoEmpirePerhaps still a far eastern civ, but Mainlanders where maybe the first to weaponize it?
01:05.13TekDroidwell BNW!Asia
01:05.16HachimanMakes sense
01:05.16DrodoEmpireOuch
01:05.26TekDroidI agree DrodoEmpire
01:05.36Angrybirds_Same here.
01:05.39DrodoEmpireSo that's a whole six pixels a month
01:05.41Zmr56Aye
01:05.44DrodoEmpireAh, great
01:05.48HachimanAlso about my question regarding prehistoric species
01:05.49HachimanMammoths and the likes could have been a species imported into Europe
01:06.05Zmr56Bakistan: roll up, Jurassic Park right ere
01:06.17TekDroidWell there's no reason we need to keep Earth species
01:06.18Zmr56It could make a good fiction story
01:06.54Angrybirds_DrodoEmpire : I meant population. Ireland had about 4 million inhabitants in 1700, so that could be your baseline.
01:07.07DrodoEmpireTek: I think we should keep some, like horses, but others can be modified or new
01:07.35HachimanKing Blair of Clan McAlister, riding his triceratops into war at the front of his army
01:08.32DrodoEmpireAB: I know, one pixel per million inhabitants means that six pixels a month growth would be Belgica's (they have six million inhabitants due to a population explosion)
01:09.25MonetOKay did a quick check, Westolia is 142 pixels square in size.
01:09.43Zmr56How many pixels am I?
01:09.48Angrybirds_DrodoEmpire: Yep.
01:10.02Liquid_Inkhttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421010921/spore/images/e/ee/Woskorinek.png Got myself a flag.
01:10.20DrodoEmpireFairly slow, but the population isn't decreasing anytime soon
01:11.00Angrybirds_Colonial growth can be accelerated by economic growth in the colonies (not the case so far), or poor conditions at home.
01:11.06Zmr56My population is still increasing but not too rapidly
01:11.07MonetZmr56: 438 pixels square
01:11.15Zmr56yeeey
01:11.38DrodoEmpireBelgic king - *purposly destroys towns* GET YOUR ASSES OVERSEAS
01:12.31Angrybirds_Morcia has a population of about 17 million, so 17 pixels modified by access to the sea, which is meh. Good economic conditions (for now) mean not many people are emigrating, which probably translates to about 10 pixels of growth per month.
01:12.35HachimanI'm gonna do the British/Wescolian thing and go have some hot cross buns
01:13.53TybusenI'll say that Hausgran has a population of 15 million, but since they're experiencing some disorder at home, their expansion rate is slowed
01:14.04MonetAngrybirds_: Looking at the uncovered map, that peninsula on the same latitude as Wescolia looks an enticin site for a port colony
01:14.23DrodoEmpireBelgica has a good or average economy, but suffers from overcrowding (poor conditions), so I can imagine the growth perhaps being more like 7 ot 8 pixels a ponth
01:14.26DrodoEmpire*month
01:14.35Zmr56Panda: Could Hellenia and Bakistan be allies?
01:14.44Angrybirds_DrodoEmpire: That'd make sense.
01:15.04AdmiralPandasorry I was out buying lunch, anything I miss?
01:15.08DrodoEmpireShould we put gameplay information like this in a section on the fiction page itself>
01:15.09DrodoEmpire*?
01:15.22Zmr56I think we should.
01:15.33DrodoEmpireLike its colonial growth rate, rough economic condition, current ruler, and military size?
01:15.48DrodoEmpireJust the fast stats basically. :P
01:16.02TekDroidagreed
01:16.05Angrybirds_That'd work!
01:16.20Angrybirds_What resources you have access to would be awesome too.
01:16.28DrodoEmpireAnd, especially for growth rate so you can't fudge numbers, reasons for these things
01:16.36DrodoEmpireRight
01:18.30MonetI'm thinking Wescolia's current population could be 6.7 million
01:19.07AdmiralPandajust throwing it out there, Hellenia is putting a trademark on production of purple dye a la that one island place with the snails I can't remember the name of
01:19.09TekDroidwhich one is Wescolia?
01:19.32MonetTekdroid: BNW!Britain
01:19.35Zmr56I have  moderate economic growth, large navy, 11 mil peeps
01:19.36MonetMinus Scotland
01:19.51TekDroidNo, which colour?
01:19.55MonetRed
01:20.14TekDroidAh.
01:20.15MonetYou have like 3 1/2x more land than me though
01:21.19TekDroidYeah, though we're near broke so far. XD
01:21.57AdmiralPandahm, looking at the map Hellenia isn't in nearly as good a position as I thought
01:22.09AdmiralPandathats a bit problematic
01:22.29TekDroidgtg, 1% battery
01:22.35Zmr56bye
01:23.35AdmiralPandakind of hard to be a trade superpower when almost everyone has land borders with everyone
01:23.49AdmiralPandaeh, I'll think about it
01:25.15Angrybirds_AdmiralPanda, there are plenty of unnamed nations around that basin you're in, you could trade with them.
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01:25.48AdmiralPandayeah but that's not nearly as fun :P I'll probably just rethink the trade thing
01:26.05AdmiralPandaweigh on the greece side more than the venice side
01:26.58DrodoEmpireMilitarily, would the Line Infantry exist yet?
01:27.13DrodoEmpireOr is that a year or two away or something?
01:27.40HachimanI wonder what Dnalba's population would be
01:29.24Angrybirds_http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140420052120/spore/images/f/fa/Old_World_3.png
01:29.30Angrybirds_Added Liquid_Ink's nation.
01:31.05Liquid_InkYey
01:31.14quark8What's Old World?
01:31.30AdmiralPandahm, no I need to rethink this whole thing, otherwise I'm gonna just make another Sparta and that will get boring really fast
01:31.45TybusenHmm, I can see Hausgran and Liquid's nation having competition for territory on the mainland
01:31.46Zmr56quark8: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Clanden/Brave_New_World
01:33.10DrodoEmpireI think within at least the fast facts we also put in armed forces numbers in regiments. :P Just so other nations what to expect
01:33.34Angrybirds_Tybusen and Liquid_Ink: The mountains run through the border of your territory.
01:33.53DrodoEmpire(Regiments usually are about 1000 troops or are assumed to be)
01:34.14TybusenThat one city-state that Hausgran controls at the southern tip of Liquid's nation could be a source of friction
01:34.17Zmr56Well I gotta go, tell me if there's anything that happens tommorow
01:34.21DrodoEmpireAlrughty
01:34.24DrodoEmpire*alrighty
01:35.41Angrybirds_I think we'll assume for now that the north of Morcia is occupied by a bunch of small states and principalities a la HRE.
01:35.44AdmiralPandaAngrybirds_: for now hold off on my involvement, gotta rethink what I'm doing here because the original plan ain't gonna work right
01:36.01Angrybirds_Got it.
01:37.08Liquid_InkI'm sending explorers to the south and to the east!
01:38.44Angrybirds_Liquid_Ink : Trace their path on a map through FOW?
01:38.52Liquid_InkHm?
01:38.58Angrybirds_Fog of war
01:40.12TybusenAngrybirds_: That HRE idea makes sense with that patch of disconnected territory Morcia has in the "HRE" territory
01:40.30Angrybirds_^
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01:40.55Liquid_Inkhttp://i.imgur.com/01Ghh50.png
01:41.46Angrybirds_Got it.
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01:47.28The_RandomnessHello everyone
01:47.51Liquid_InkHello
01:48.17HachimanOh look, Zilla used your blog as an excuse to moan
01:49.19MonetQUick question, how many square kilometres is 1 pixel equal to on this map?
01:52.40Liquid_InkOkay, made a blog post about mine
01:53.28HachimanSo I figured that Yamato is awesome because it's got gun-wielding, horse-riding samurai backed up by archers and pikemen while they all use katana as their sidearm
01:54.15TybusenAnd when you say pikes you mean naginatas, am I correct
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01:54.43HachimanJah
01:55.09AngrydroidDrodoEmpire: have you explained your regiment system?
01:55.24DrodoEmpireOh, ah!
01:55.34AngrydroidHorses are also a limited commodity.
01:55.42AngrydroidFor cab regiments.
01:55.47AngrydroidCab*
01:55.52AngrydroidCav*
01:55.59HachimanWhat about stuff like elephants and mammoths :3
01:56.01DrodoEmpireThere you go,
01:56.12MonetI'll be going, goodnight
01:56.18HachimanBai Monet
01:56.20The_RandomnessBye
01:56.22AdmiralPandacya
01:56.28Tybusensee ya Monet
01:56.31DrodoEmpireSo basically your military size is roughly determined by your population size ans economy, along with your tech group.
01:56.36DrodoEmpire*and
01:56.55DrodoEmpireMost nations within a given tech group share some units but may have some unique ones
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01:57.39DrodoEmpireIts also determined by what commodities you have; For example no horses mean no cavalry
01:57.49TybusenWell look who returned to the Wiki
01:57.54TybusenMushrumKing is back
01:58.18AdmiralPandaohgod, let's hope it goes better than last time
01:58.42HachimanWhat
01:59.15DrodoEmpireOne way to get a good estimate of your military size is to take your population, see how many times larger it is then, say, Belgica, and then find the military size of the same country and multiply it by the same amount
02:00.07DrodoEmpireGranted this is a rough estimate and is again changed by logical factors like what resources you have available to you, your economic situation, and tech group
02:00.32DrodoEmpireAlong with culture
02:00.38AdmiralPandaI think I might actually make a New World faction instead
02:00.46AngrydroidI don't think that the units you have access to should be restricted by your tech group, but the weapons you have access to probably should.
02:00.56AdmiralPandabecause none of my Old World ideas work or are appealing to me
02:00.57DrodoEmpireWell weapons determine units
02:01.01DrodoEmpire:P
02:01.09DrodoEmpireYou can't have Line infantry without muskets
02:01.24AngrydroidHachiman :Zmr and Egypt could have elephants. :D
02:01.29TybusenI might as well start making the page for Hausgran.
02:01.44HachimanEgypt should have mammoths
02:01.58DrodoEmpireFor example a country with a strong warrior culture might have a military larger than average
02:02.10AngrydroidMammoths are extinct though.
02:02.16HachimanNot in BNW
02:02.18Hachiman:P
02:02.22Liquid_InkIs it okay if I have an evil Illuminati-esque cult?
02:02.42Liquid_InkBased on the Circle of Ossus from Age of Empires III
02:02.53AngrydroidABSOLUTELY. I was going to subtlely suggest making an order inspired by the assassins.
02:03.08AngrydroidOh! I loved that cult!
02:03.22DrodoEmpireYESH
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02:07.00Firebaranyone here?
02:07.01quark8Hey everyone
02:07.06Firebarhello
02:07.12DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Belgica - Done
02:07.32DrodoEmpireCheck below for a good example of what the fast facts should look like
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02:07.54DrodoEmpireHey Firebar, quark8
02:07.59Firebarhey
02:08.08quark8hey
02:08.35DrodoEmpireIts also a good idea to mention if your units are up-to-date or obsolete
02:09.08Angrybirds_I can start figuring out the 1700 round of colonies if you guys want to do that.
02:09.16DrodoEmpireFor example, Line Infantry (up-to-date as of 1700), or Far Eastern spearman (Obsolete as of 1700)
02:09.17Angrybirds_I have Monet's down.
02:09.24DrodoEmpireGreat
02:09.31DrodoEmpireWell,
02:09.42DrodoEmpireI might actually do a land expedition for my second this month. :P
02:09.57Angrybirds_You could do it for your first month.
02:10.10Angrybirds_Given that stuff is bound to happen before 1700.
02:10.27DrodoEmpireWhat, explore on land?
02:10.35Angrybirds_Mhm.
02:10.40HachimanWhat's the state of archers and crossbowers?
02:10.42DrodoEmpireAlright
02:10.46DrodoEmpireObsolete as of 1700
02:10.50DrodoEmpireMost likely
02:11.00DrodoEmpireThough still effective against less advanced civs
02:11.17Angrybirds_Hachiman : I'd actually argue that they're still useful. Crossbows aren't, but bows are.
02:11.38Angrybirds_They're expensive to field en masse and considered a gentleman's weapon, but bows are still very effective.
02:11.44DrodoEmpireArchers and crossbowmen are more the domain of Far East tech group and down, they're less advanced
02:11.50DrodoEmpire^
02:11.50Angrybirds_Especially in feudal japan during this period.
02:12.02DrodoEmpireArchers I guess would be up-to-date as of 1700
02:12.04DrodoEmpireYeah
02:12.09DrodoEmpireJust take longer to train
02:12.28The_RandomnessHow come crossbows are obsolete but bows aren't?
02:12.31AdmiralPandaone thing I'm going to say: the reason crossbows went out of service was they were banned by the church so peasants couldn't kill holy knights.
02:12.37AdmiralPandaThe_Randomness: ^
02:12.42The_Randomness^
02:12.45AdmiralPandathen rifled guns came along
02:13.01AdmiralPandaso crossbows never became obsolete until rifled guns, they just got banned out
02:13.10DrodoEmpireCrossbows don't have the range of muskets, I don't believe, and they where bannedc
02:13.11Firebarcrossbows replaced bows because it was easier to trian people to use them
02:13.21DrodoEmpireNo, muskets replaced bows. :P
02:13.29DrodoEmpireCrossbows and bows always coexisted
02:13.31AdmiralPandaDrodoEmpire: crossbows had WAY longer effective ranges than muskets mate
02:13.47AdmiralPandathat was the problem; they could kill armoured knights at long range
02:13.51Firebarthey were more accurate than early muskets
02:13.51DrodoEmpireI suppose, yeah
02:13.56DrodoEmpireAnd yes they where
02:14.23DrodoEmpireThe big problem with crossbows though is that they take strong men to wield them; Meanwhile anyone could load and fire a musket
02:14.25Firebarthey're pretty balanced
02:14.40quark8^
02:14.43The_RandomnessYeah but you can't hit crap with a musket
02:14.45AdmiralPandaDrodoEmpire: again false, only the earliest crossbows needed strong men
02:14.47Firebaryeah i see ur point
02:15.00AdmiralPandathen they invented the mechanical loading crossbow, and anybody could load one
02:15.08Firebarhowever, it was quiker to load a crossbow
02:15.18DrodoEmpireSo yeah, both bows and crossbows are effective as of 1700's, but more expensive to maintain
02:15.28HachimanHehe, I just had a thought of Yamato riflemen riding on mini-mammoths into battle
02:15.29DrodoEmpireAgreed?
02:15.38Firebarlol what?
02:15.40The_RandomnessI don't know about that
02:15.51Angrybirds_Mammoths are extinct...
02:15.57HachimanNot in BNW :p
02:15.58quark8Agreed
02:16.06Firebarbut are minimammoths?
02:16.07quark8I think
02:16.29HachimanMini-mammoths = Japanese mammoths because everything is smaller and more kawaii in Japan
02:16.46HachimanOr Yamato as I'm calling it hur
02:16.51AdmiralPandaAsian girl - *looks at chest* I agree!
02:17.02DrodoEmpireBows definately; It takes a lifetime of practice to use a bow effectively, and crossbows much less so, but still slightly more expensive then line infantry
02:17.30DrodoEmpireNow time to make military rules and tactics for the BNWverse
02:17.31HachimanWhat's the state of mechs in this universe
02:17.35Firebarwould crossbows be cheaper to make than muskets?
02:17.37Angrybirds_Come to me to determine this month's (in-universe year) colonial growth!
02:17.48DrodoEmpireMuskets are actually pretty simple weapons
02:17.58DrodoEmpireMechanical crossbows where quite complex
02:18.11Firebaryeah i know how they work but i think crossbows are simpler
02:18.25DrodoEmpireNo they aren;t, and I just said why
02:18.35AdmiralPandacrossbows were more complex to manufacture but comparable in difficulty to train
02:18.39Firebarsorry didnt see that
02:18.45Firebaryeah u have a point
02:18.45DrodoEmpirelate mechanical crossbows are fairly complicated machines
02:18.47DrodoEmpireSorry
02:19.07DrodoEmpireThough earlier on they'll be tactically superior
02:19.08AdmiralPandayeah late ones with a windlass, btu early latch and gear crossbows were easy as hell, just turn a handle and you're good to go
02:19.19AdmiralPanda(and I'm not kidding on that, that was literally all you had to do)
02:19.24The_Randomness^
02:19.36Firebari do however think that crossbow, especially repeating ones, are faster to load than muskets
02:19.51AdmiralPandaabout the same
02:20.03Firebardepends on the soldier's skill
02:20.14AdmiralPandaa winch crossbow is about 8 shots a minute for a fast firer, can't remember muskets
02:20.56DrodoEmpireAn experienced soldier could deliver 2 or 3 shots per minute with a flinklock
02:21.00DrodoEmpire*flintlock
02:21.11DrodoEmpireBut they fired in volleys
02:21.21AdmiralPandaalthough one thing Drodo: a musket requires more metalworking skill to make, as a crossbow just uses cast iron mostly, so the atelier just needed a blueprint to mass-produce them
02:21.32AdmiralPandaall military ranged weapons fired in volleys
02:21.35DrodoEmpireRight
02:21.42HachimanAs I said, what's the state of mechs in the BNWverse
02:21.50DrodoEmpireAs in mecha?
02:21.51AdmiralPandaHachiman: your wet dreams :
02:21.54AdmiralPanda:3*
02:22.07HachimanEffectively mecha yeah
02:22.15Firebarthat remnds me, what is the status of steampunk tech?
02:22.25Angrybirds_Hachiman : Err... This is the colonial period based off of real world technology.
02:22.25DrodoEmpireNon-existant. :P Its 1700's tech through-and-through
02:22.26TybusenI would imagine those are too far in the future for this universe
02:22.32Firebargotcha
02:22.35TybusenMechs and steampunk are industrial
02:22.51TybusenMeaning it would require 1850s technology
02:22.53Firebarwhat about hot-air ballons?
02:23.08TybusenI think hot-air balloons are also too advanced
02:23.12Firebark
02:23.16TybusenThose require combustion
02:23.39Angrybirds_Steam hasn't been harnessed yet.
02:23.42Tybusen1700s technology doesn't have industrial combustion technology
02:24.01TybusenMeaning anything that requires coal or oil combustion is out of the picture
02:24.21HachimanWhat about automatic weapons?
02:24.22Firebarok
02:24.32HachimanOr semi-automatic or whatever
02:24.42Firebaronly crossbows i would think
02:24.45DrodoEmpireNon-existant as well
02:25.17Liquid_InkYou can have semi-automatic crossbows I'm sure
02:25.20Liquid_InkWait now
02:25.26Liquid_InkThey'd be lever action wouldn't they?
02:25.32DrodoEmpireThe mechanical knowledge necessary to produce moving parts of that complexity, let alone cartridges, is about 180 years away?
02:25.33Firebaryeah those existed
02:25.36DrodoEmpire*.
02:25.37AdmiralPandawell technically speaking
02:25.47AdmiralPandaand chinese repeating crossbows were invented well before the 1700s
02:25.56DrodoEmpireThe Maxim Gun, the first modern machine gun was invented into the late 1880's
02:26.08Angrybirds_AdmiralPanda : But they stayed out of the west and were probably very complex.
02:26.19Firebari think europe used them
02:26.23AdmiralPandawell true, just saying they existed in the 200's :P
02:26.26Firebaridk though
02:26.36Angrybirds_Firebar : I don't think so.
02:26.40TybusenYeah, I think the Chinese invented a semi-automatic crossbow in the 1500s
02:27.03TybusenThe Chu-No-Ku
02:27.04DrodoEmpireThe only true automatic weapons would be the Chu-ko-nu (chinese repeating crossbow) and later on in the 1700's the "puckle gun", which was a big bulky thing that fired eight musket rounfd before needing to reload
02:27.14Wormy_awayhello
02:27.25Wormyon dear
02:27.25DrodoEmpireAs well as the organ gun but these fell out of favour well before the 1700's
02:27.29WormyI have returned
02:27.30AdmiralPandaTybusen: that's what I was talking about, and it was invented in the 200's
02:27.31Angrybirds_Wormy : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Clanden/Brave_New_World
02:27.36Firebari just looked at the desighns for the chinese crossbow
02:28.03Firebarand it looks not overly simple but not impossible to make
02:28.26TybusenThough the Chu-Ko-Nu would probably be part of the Eastern tech group and might not have been thought up by the Western tech group in the BNWverse
02:28.33Angrybirds_^
02:28.49DrodoEmpirePart of the Far East tech group, yeah
02:28.56TybusenSo Eastern nations would have automatic weapons, but Westerns would not
02:28.58Firebarwhat about arbalasts?
02:29.08Firebar*arbalest
02:29.17DrodoEmpireWell, Chu-Ko-Nus where weak and only good for close range
02:29.37WormyFirebar:  Hi, are you new user or someone with a different nickname?
02:29.43Firebarnew user
02:29.47DrodoEmpireSo guys, important message
02:29.54WormyWelcome
02:29.56Firebarthx
02:30.00WormyNOW GET TO WORK
02:30.08DrodoEmpireI'm making the warfare page so if you want to PM me ideas and such that would be great
02:30.18Liquid_InkFirebar: He means that in a loving way
02:30.26DrodoEmpireknows the drill and hands Wormy his beating stick
02:30.30Firebarloving...
02:30.40Firebardont worry i know my place
02:31.51Firebarso, i just had an idea. could we fit a roman like civilisation into BNW?
02:32.15DrodoEmpireIts possible, yeah
02:32.19Liquid_InkAs in modern or as a historical thing?
02:32.44Firebarwhat do you mean?
02:32.54WormyAngrybirdsL  I like the way you left the other continents uknknown on the map
02:33.12WormyIt is psychological warfare against the inevitable.
02:33.28Liquid_InkFirebar: As in a modern nation or just something we reference in history?
02:33.37Firebarmodern nation
02:33.39WormyI praise you muchness and joy.
02:33.48Firebarlike modernized
02:33.54HachimanCan I make an international organization that is dedicated to the manufacture and retail of weed and has influence over the armies of the world because of it
02:34.06Firebari just watched spartacus so i might be a bit biased
02:34.09Liquid_InkI suppose we could
02:34.33Firebargreat
02:34.39Liquid_InkHachiman: I wanted my empire to try to dominant the opium trade
02:34.53Firebarthe spice trade?
02:34.55HachimanA 420-year old society dedicated to the manufacture, production, worship, selling, and buying of weed
02:34.58Angrybirds_Added monet's colonies: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140420052120/spore/images/f/fa/Old_World_3.png
02:35.01Firebarlol
02:35.09Liquid_InkI'll just have to make do with whatever my explorers come across on the Angrybirds_ 's mysterious map of mystery
02:35.54Angrybirds_Liquid_Ink: When I come back, I'll unveil some of the map's secrets, maybe. :P
02:36.19Firebarim trying to come up with a name for the romanesqe empire
02:37.33DrodoEmpireAB: Could I make an expedition inland? Perhaps see what's in the peninsula making up that bay?
02:38.52HachimanI think the main problem with Yamato is that if I'm to set it where it would be reasonable to set it I'd have nobody to interact with
02:39.00HachimanThus my tech scale would be thumbs down probably
02:40.10Firebarwell, we'll probably get some kind of china-like empire
02:41.11Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10275922_553158041468427_2994993390156497714_n.jpg
02:41.46OluapPlayerwoof
02:41.56Firebarwell, theres my contribution see u all tommorow
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02:48.56Liquid_InkI maintain I have the most badass flag http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421010921/spore/images/e/ee/Woskorinek.png
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02:52.37quark8Hi TekDroid
02:56.36TekDroidHello
03:05.41Wormy~seen MushrumKing1
03:05.43infobotWormy: i haven't seen 'mushrumking1'
03:05.50Wormy~seen mushie
03:05.51infoboti haven't seen 'mushie', Wormy
03:06.05Wormy~seen mushrum
03:06.05infoboti haven't seen 'mushrum', Wormy
03:06.17Wormy~seen mushkie
03:06.18infoboti haven't seen 'mushkie', Wormy
03:06.45quark8~seen mushrumking
03:06.45infobotquark8: i haven't seen 'mushrumking'
03:07.07quark8~seen MushrumKing
03:07.07infoboti haven't seen 'mushrumking', quark8
03:07.35quark8Was he ever on IRC?
03:07.42WormyYes
03:07.54WormyIt has been a year.
03:09.18DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Brave_New_World_Universe/Warfare - Done
03:09.40DrodoEmpireBut in the talk page (or say to me directly) any suggestions
03:11.29Angrybirds_Wormy : You're a geologist. How rich in terms of minerals (copper, iron, etc) were central American mountain ranges?
03:12.26WormyBig area
03:12.59The_RandomnessThe Iron Range in what is Minnesota is a good place for minerals
03:13.03AdmiralPandamore copper and tin than copper and iron
03:14.47WormyA lot of undiscovered mineral deposits are thought to still exist in the Central Americas
03:15.39WormyRight3
03:15.43WormyAccording to USGS
03:15.49WormyThe region covered in this report is a major producer of mineral commodities like copper (53 percent of world production in 2004), silver (48 percent), zinc (30 percent), nickel (32 percent), molybdenum (43 percent), iron ore (29 percent), gold (21 percent), lead (18 percent), primary aluminum (17 percent), salt (19 percent), and manganese (12 percent). In addition, the countries in the region are among the world's major producers, o
03:16.23Wormyreserves of antimony, asbestos, barium, beryllium, bismuth, boron, cobalt, fluorite, graphite, gypsum, indium, iodine, kaolin, magnesite, niobium, nitrate, potash, selenium, strontium, tellurium, tin, titanium, and tungsten.
03:16.43The_RandomnessOh, derp, Central America, not North America. Sorry about that
03:17.16Angrybirds_Thanks Wormy! :) That helps.
03:17.30AdmiralPandayeah that helps a lot XD
03:17.37AdmiralPandaI now owe you five biology-related favours
03:17.46WormyWhether they are economically extractable, I don't know
03:18.10AdmiralPandait's more that it exists is important at this point
03:18.22WormyThis chart makes a big difference http://www.endomines.com/images/jorcresourcesandreserves.jpg
03:19.24Wormya bit simpler http://ispatguru.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/UNFC-of-minerals.jpg
03:24.31Wormybye
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04:50.58DrodoEmpireHello
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04:58.07ImperiosHi
04:58.13DrodoEmpireHello
04:59.20Angrybirds_Imperios : http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140420052120/spore/images/f/fa/Old_World_3.png
04:59.29Angrybirds_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Clanden/Brave_New_World
05:00.40ImperiosSeen dis
05:01.01TybusenImperios: Hachi now has two Japanese empires called Yamato
05:01.10ImperiosFuckin weeaboo
05:01.38Angrybirds_Imperios: Thoughts?
05:01.42DrodoEmpirehur
05:01.48ImperiosI gave them yesterday hur
05:03.03TybusenImperios: I wouldn't say weeaboo unless they were both called the Yamato Kawaii Desu Empire
05:03.59ImperiosI don't care, I scream weeaboo whenever something remotely East Asian appears
05:06.15Tybusenthrows some kimchi to Imperios
05:06.36Imperiosscreams koreeaboo and then eats them
05:07.12ImperiosRandom fact: Russian Koreans often make kimchi made of carrots
05:08.20Imperios*make kimchi from carrots
05:10.23TybusenWell you could make kimchi made from carrots without making that kimchi from carrots
05:11.44TybusenThrough magic
05:12.03TybusenBecause then you wouldn't be making kimchi made from carrots from carrots
05:12.15TybusenYou would be making kimchi made from carrots from thin air
05:15.17ImperiosWhat kind of stuff do you eat at home, Tybusen?
05:15.24ImperiosHamburgers with tofu or something?
05:16.28DrodoEmpirehur
05:16.48DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Brave_New_World_Universe/Warfare - When planning your nations military, consider this
05:16.51DrodoEmpire*nation's
05:17.17DrodoEmpireSee which tech group you're in to give yourself a guideline of what you have at your disposal
05:17.51Angrybirds_Did you put in your meter to see how many regiments each nation has?
05:18.04DrodoEmpireOh! Nope
05:18.06DrodoEmpireI shoulda
05:26.26TybusenImperios: Just plain hamburgers
05:32.42ImperiosHur
05:32.55Imperios...Wait. Really? You eat hamburgers at home?
05:34.08TybusenYeah
05:34.15TybusenI actually had hamburgers for lunch today
05:34.41TybusenFollowed by chow mein, fish fillets, and chicken wings for dinner
05:39.12ImperiosSounds tasty
05:39.30TybusenIt was
05:52.33ImperiosLast lunch I had was composed of a soup, golubtsy, pigodi (not sure how it is pronounced in English) and an Easter kulich
05:52.34ImperiosAnd teq
05:52.36Imperiostea
05:55.13ImperiosAka lots of creepy Cyrillic and hangul words that you do not understand hye
05:55.14Imperioshue
05:55.49AdmiralPandaI had black soup a couple days ago; surprisingly tasty given its ingredients
05:56.36ImperiosBlack soup
05:56.38ImperiosWut dat
05:57.12AdmiralPandaarm it's essentially chopped up sheep boiled in sheep's blood with chopped up vegetables mixed in
05:57.15AdmiralPandaerm*
05:58.02ImperiosSheeeeeeep
05:58.21ImperiosSo typical Aussie food I assume
05:58.37AdmiralPandascottish actually
05:58.41AdmiralPandaalso the Spartans made it
05:59.14AdmiralPandaI just don't find talking about cottage pies interesting so I went straight to the only odd thing on the list
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06:12.30ImperiosTybusen: I don't get how Americans can drink coffee from childhood
06:12.34ImperiosIsn't it unhealthy?
06:12.40TybusenIt is
06:12.45TybusenBut we're Americans
06:12.54TybusenI don't drink coffee, though. I prefer tea
06:16.24TybusenI find coffee too bitter
06:16.29TybusenIt's probably for the better, too
06:17.10Liquid_InkAmericans may drink coffee from an early age
06:17.19Tybusenhttp://talas-amaze-blog.tumblr.com/post/83362603208/miss-jaxon-flaxon-waxon-onwardwall this
06:17.39Liquid_InkBut are they trained to survive the horrors of spider-sharks, drop bears and swimming knives?
06:17.59TybusenThat's why Australia is best nation
06:21.12ImperiosTybusen: I prefer tea over coffee as well but that is expected from a Russian
06:25.14Liquid_InkI've never had tea
06:25.17ImperiosLiquid_Ink: What about Aussies? What do you drink?
06:25.23Liquid_InkCoffee
06:25.27Imperios<PROTECTED>
06:26.45TybusenMight have something to do with me frequently going to Asian restaurants where they serve tea
06:26.57TybusenI guess I eventually decided one day "hey this stuff isn't bad"
06:28.21ImperiosI go to Chinese restaurants sometimes
06:28.29ImperiosI like Chinese tofu personally
06:29.10ImperiosKorean tofu (tubu or something) is different, I like it as well but it has a different taste
06:31.24TybusenI don't eat tofu a lot but I do like it
06:31.49TybusenI don't go out of my way to eat it, but if it's there, it's like "oh okay it's there i'm fine with this"
06:33.49ImperiosBTW
06:34.03Imperios<PROTECTED>
06:35.25TybusenFilipino
06:39.07ImperiosFor some reason I expected that hur
06:39.30ImperiosSo you eat Filipino cuisine mostly?
06:40.37TybusenActually, not as often as you might think
06:40.59TybusenMost of the Filipino food I've eaten is at parties with the Filipino side of my family
06:42.10ImperiosHaving a family made from people from different countries must be interesting
06:44.27TybusenThe "Chinese" side of my family is actually very Americanized, so really it's more of a meeting of American and Filipino
06:45.31ImperiosIt's mostly the same for my family
06:46.03ImperiosMy ancestors lived in Russia since Tsar Alexander III's reign I believe
06:48.18ImperiosWhat about yours?
06:48.55TybusenMy grandfather was the one who moved from China to America, along with his brother and sister
06:49.16TybusenHe came over to America to study at a US university and ultimately decided to stay when Mao took over
06:50.22ImperiosAh I see
06:51.16ImperiosMy mother's great-grandparents on the other hand were refugees from occupied Korea
06:51.57Imperios<PROTECTED>
06:54.20Angrybirds_This be my royal family: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Charles_Family_Tree.png
06:54.27TybusenMy mom came from a fairly affluent Filipino family and moved to America because, well, she was in the Philippines
06:55.25Liquid_Inkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Kim_dynasty_%28North_Korea%29_family_tree
06:58.58Imperios<PROTECTED>
06:59.19TybusenI find it funny in one of the notes on that family tree that Kim Jong-un may have actually been born in 1984.
07:01.39Liquid_InkHurr
07:03.17ImperiosKim Jong-un is a doubleplusgood leader
07:03.39TybusenIndeed, the doubleplusgoodest leader we've ever known
07:05.53ImperiosWhat about Kim Il-sung?
07:06.46Liquid_InkHe is in heaven now.
07:07.02Liquid_InkIn fact, he created heaven as a doubleplusgood place for the workers.
07:07.09TybusenHe is quadrupleplusgoodest
07:07.12Liquid_Inkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p9_7xXlR0s
07:11.09ImperiosHm.
07:11.37ImperiosWhat sounds better for a human name: "Arya Palestone", "Arya Palesnake" or "Arya Palemoon"?
07:11.51Liquid_InkFirst one
07:14.53TybusenPalestone.
07:21.54Liquid_InkI feel the Woskorinek should have ninjas
07:22.15Liquid_InkOr rather, assassins fitting the popular culture image of a ninja.
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07:39.53drommorning
07:51.08Liquid_InkHello
07:59.56dromSpore is full of drained adventrues made by small kids nowadays.
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08:01.28dromHello
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08:46.09AdmiralPandaTequila Mockingbird- if there is a classier name for alcohol I want to hear it
08:46.20AdmiralPandaclassier brand*
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09:04.06Imperioshttp://mobile.euobserver.com/opinion/123496 ...Wha?
09:05.03ImperiosLDPR is far right? Wha? Gay people in Russia are forced underground? Wha?
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09:05.24JepardiHi
09:08.53AdmiralPandaImperios: in that context, 'underground' means they're concealing being gay
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09:27.50sparty_wow
09:27.59sparty_plz no hurt me
09:28.10sparty_ink?
09:28.20sparty_hello?
09:28.31sparty_darn
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09:31.37Ghelaesuch patience
09:34.02AdmiralPandawhy do I get the feeling that was Spartian anyway?
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09:35.34JepardiDue to the name?
09:35.55AdmiralPandaImperios: with regards to your prior post, they were saying LDPR is left-wing and has way more seats than its right-wing opponents, and that gays are being forced to pretend they're not gay
09:36.02AdmiralPandaJepardi: yeah
09:36.56Imperios> Meanwhile, Russia’s far-right party, the LDPR
09:37.10ImperiosThey are far-right, they are hardly even a major power in its own right
09:37.16Imperios*are not far-right
09:37.30AdmiralPandathat's what the article was saying
09:37.43ImperiosThey are hardly far right
09:38.04AdmiralPandaImperios the article was saying they are a LEFT party with more seats than their right OPPONENTS
09:38.10AdmiralPandacaps for emphasis
09:38.11ImperiosWha?
09:38.33AdmiralPandaLDPR, has more seats in the Russian parliament than there are far-right politicians in Ukraine’s assembly
09:38.53Imperios> Meanwhile, Russia’s far-right party, the LDPR, has more seats in the Russian parliament than there are far-right politicians in Ukraine’s assembly.
09:39.03Imperiosfar right party
09:39.13AdmiralPandahm I must have read that wrong
09:39.26AdmiralPandathe two parts of that sentence are contradictory
09:39.29AdmiralPandareally contradictory
09:39.41ImperiosAnyway I have at least one openly lesbian acquaintance
09:39.43AdmiralPandathat or it's just written terribly
09:40.00ImperiosActually, three
09:40.13AdmiralPandaeither way the underground part is right, it means they are pretending to be not gay
09:40.19ImperiosAnd my sister has lots of lesbian friends
09:40.23ImperiosWho are openly LGBT
09:41.06AdmiralPandawell I'm just talking about the wording of the article, I'm not Russian so I don't knpw
09:41.07Liquid_InkNgh my Skyrim derped
09:41.51ImperiosSure my city is more tolerant than Russia in general but still
09:42.10AdmiralPandaLiquid_Ink: I'm back to playing Oblivion, strangely enough I find it more fun
09:42.24AdmiralPandadespite being vastly harder
09:45.12AdmiralPandaDaedric gates are a complete bitch :P
09:55.19AdmiralPandaso the Mythbusters just bent a rifle's barrel 180 degrees and fired it, the bullet still went fast enough to kill someone in a hundred metres range
09:55.33AdmiralPandathe Looney Toons were right
10:28.42Liquid_InkAaaalll aloooooooone.
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10:40.31Liquid_InkLook, people!
10:40.39Liquid_InkNo longer all alone.
10:58.15ImperiosHi Mon
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11:09.40AdmiralPandahi
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11:54.39Liquid_InkHello
11:59.21AdmiralPandahai Oluap and Xho
12:00.44OluapPlayerhi
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12:06.04dromHello
12:12.42Xhoblah
12:12.54Liquid_Inkfeeds drom to Xho
12:13.17Xhohalb
12:14.04XhoOh dear Mushrum's been editing his pages
12:14.27Liquid_InkHe's back!
12:14.47Xhogets his weed hacker at the ready
12:15.55Liquid_InkYey!
12:16.27AdmiralPandayeah judging by how his last return was handled I'm a little concerned
12:17.42AdmiralPandahttp://cheezburger.com/8129725696 dohoho
12:19.40XhoHe's generally an ultra dislikeable person
12:19.50XhoAnd oho
12:20.38Liquid_InkWhenever science fiction claims that something was invented by aliens then given to humans I feel sorry for the people who actually invented them.
12:21.07Liquid_InkMy heart goes out to you, George de Mestral!
12:24.47ImperiosYay
12:26.15dromWhat makes me look like a devil's dinner?
12:26.30Liquid_InkYou posting terrifying images of spiders.
12:27.50MonetAdmiralPanda: That's an absolute steal for nachos that size.
12:27.56dromTerrifying, eh? http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs26/i/2009/242/1/8/jumping_spider_2nd_instar_by_macrojunkie.jpg
12:30.14Liquid_Inksnaps Drom's neck.
12:31.18drom's head wiggles inhumanely as he searches for more fluffy spiders.
12:31.40Liquid_Inkthrows drom to the Asgord pits
12:32.09dromDo you have a phobia for ghosts?
12:32.10MonetI think that "ET gave us technology" is just a way of providing a mor efantastic explaination to Moore's Law.
12:32.25MonetAnd, you know, downplaying just how brilliant humans are
12:32.29Monethuman minds are*
12:32.33Liquid_InkDrom: No
12:33.11dromWell. I guess you gona have it, since I'm now a ghost riding on a giant ghost spider now.
12:37.00dromWell. I guess I'm off to play team ogress 2 now.
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12:38.38Zmr56comes on Brave New World blog
12:38.47Zmr56sees Spartian300
12:38.50dromnutcracks Zmr56
12:38.53AdmiralPandaI know
12:38.56Zmr56Ohgod no not him
12:39.16AdmiralPandaI have faith in AB to make the right call, whatever that may be
12:39.20Zmr56Damn wiki one year ban is too damn short
12:39.34AdmiralPandahas it been a year already?
12:39.41Zmr56It seems so
12:39.51AdmiralPandaholy crap I forgot about that guy fast
12:40.04OluapPlayerWhy are douchebags suddenly returning all the sudden
12:40.11AdmiralPanda^
12:40.14Zmr56Has he not reached puberty yet?
12:40.22dromhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log/block?page=User%3ASpartian300
12:40.23AdmiralPandabrb getting licorice
12:40.40MonetSOmethign tells me he hasn't learned
12:41.01Monet1 month
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12:42.31MonetAnd while he has only just started talking again, the pattern seems rather evident
12:42.48Monet3 months*
12:42.50dromAnd he also dared to necropost his old threads.
12:42.54Technobliteratorhii
12:42.56OluapPlayerdumba
12:43.00Technobliteratorya dad
12:43.07AdmiralPandahai techno
12:47.23MonetOKay so looking over hwat little information he has
12:47.31MonetThis empire of his is stuck in the middle ages.
12:47.41AdmiralPandathis being the Spartians?
12:47.59MonetNo the "Holy empire of Firdor"
12:48.31AdmiralPandaah
12:48.52MonetThey rely on armies for expansion, will only trade when it suits them and apparently love launching crusades against anyone not part of their state religion
12:49.31OluapPlayerWhat else could you expect from Spartian
12:49.54dromHe seems to do better in the Althistory wiki.
12:50.07dromBut he has gotten compliants aswell.
12:50.08Zmr56Pffft, Bakistan could destroy them any day, just not Saturdays, Bakistan likes to relax on Saturdays.
12:50.23AdmiralPandato be fair most factions of that historical era rely on their armies for expansion, but no (reads Zmr's comment) BAHAHA
12:50.29AdmiralPandagod I love it when people make that joke
12:50.54OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Year_7#Assassin_on_the_Ship for those who missed, two new sections
12:51.46MonetYes but we're also entering a time where the importance of trade and monetary gain is growing
12:51.48AdmiralPandabut seriously, my understanding is that Spartian well and truly deserves to be branded a noob
12:51.58AdmiralPandadoesn't get the idea, doesn't want to
12:52.23AdmiralPandahe's the kind of person who will defend crashing a helicopter by saying that you get more points for ramming someone than shooting them
12:53.37MonetI'm saying this empire is stuck in the middle ages because over the course of the 1700s, nations realised you could more easily buy the loyalty of weak powers by selling them guns and cotton and whatever other exotic goods you could manufacture.
12:54.06AdmiralPanda^
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12:54.29Wormyhi
12:54.32Zmr56hon Vekaron x Kirlisir
12:54.41Zmr56Hi
12:54.55Wormy<PROTECTED>
12:55.02MonetSlaves in the golden age of sail were primarily bought from African tribes who had them as POWs, rather than acquired though raiding one's enemies.
12:55.11Wormy<PROTECTED>
12:55.19Technobliteratormush back and not val
12:55.21Technobliteratorfml
12:55.32OluapPlayerToday is "douchebag returns" day
12:55.34OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: chek sections
12:55.41Technobliteratorwat sections
12:55.50MonetAnd crusades? During the age of Reason? Wat?
12:55.52OluapPlayerr u dum scroll up
12:55.58Technobliteratoralso wormy, I had one thought. Maybe Loyal Heretics was spartian?
12:56.04Technobliteratoroh
12:56.07Technobliteratoryeah sure ill read
12:56.10WormyNot impossible
12:56.28Technobliteratorthey both type the same way
12:57.12drom<PROTECTED>
12:57.34AdmiralPandanot exactly relevant but ok
12:58.16Technobliteratoryeah, that's pretty meaningless
12:58.47TechnobliteratorKirlisir - ...I never realized you slept naked.
12:58.49Technobliteratorwat
12:59.05OluapPlayerhur
13:00.20dromWell. I'll see if I can combine Celtics and Vikings to a nation.
13:00.45Imperios>Irish-American
13:00.59ImperiosAll the more reason for Cyr to vanquish him hur
13:01.23MonetDoes it say what state he lives in?
13:01.27dromNope
13:01.46ImperiosMonet: We don't know where to nuke, no
13:02.36XhoOluapPlayer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=251626917
13:02.55OluapPlayerhur
13:03.06OluapPlayerXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Year_7#Ballerina_Lesson chek
13:03.28ImperiosGod how do you do that
13:03.32XhoI saw
13:03.38ImperiosMaking two or more sections a day
13:03.40XhoSporeWiki is turning soft hur
13:03.54OluapPlayerYou're not gonna like what's coming up next hur
13:04.19XhoAngazhar - MUST                 INCREASE                  INFLUENCE
13:04.29ImperiosRomance romance romance romance
13:04.50Liquid_InkOh sweet mystery of life at last I found thee!
13:05.12ImperiosTwilight: SporeWiki Edition
13:05.26OluapPlayerEw, how dare you compare me to gay vampires
13:05.53XhoNeeds more neck snapping and Dromaedon-style deaths
13:05.54MonetI feel like Imperios and I are way behind on our contributions
13:05.58Technobliteratorthat was kinda neat
13:06.05ImperiosWell
13:06.15ImperiosIt's my graduation year
13:06.26ImperiosHonestly I should leave SporeWiki for good
13:06.31ImperiosFor a time
13:07.13OluapPlayerThere'll be pain and death in the future
13:07.19Xhogud
13:07.23OluapPlayerPerhaps not Dromaedon-level death but surely death
13:07.27Xhoy not
13:07.37ImperiosThis reminds me
13:07.37OluapPlayercus im not dat good with descriptions
13:07.46ImperiosI wanted to make a vampire character
13:07.59ImperiosNot sure how to call him though
13:08.24XhoCall him Chicken Man
13:08.39OluapPlayery not turkey
13:08.46Xhofien
13:08.50XhoTurkey Man
13:09.10ImperiosMarquis Sumrachny, Marquis Alconiy, or Marquid Alconiy Sumrachny
13:09.12dromMalmö's predicted coat of arms. Impressing. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Malm%C3%B6_fulla_vapen.svg/463px-Malm%C3%B6_fulla_vapen.svg.png
13:09.27Imperios*Marquis
13:09.35ImperiosMarquis being his title obviously
13:10.14Liquid_InkTurkey man?
13:10.19Liquid_InkSo he's Turkish?
13:13.17Zmr56sqaaauk chicken coat o' arms
13:16.08MonetI don't know if I can keep up.
13:17.29MonetWhile the stuff that goes on is gripping, I look at these pages and passively think "how long does this go on for?"
13:18.30dromSo I found a fitting coat of arms from one of Estonia's countys. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Saaremaa_vapp.svg
13:20.22drombrb stealing it for the Celt-Viking nation
13:29.25MonetMaybe I'm not the kind of person to read long chapters in one go.
13:32.15ImperiosAye I feel like this too at times
13:32.20ImperiosTry making short stories
13:33.59XhoOluapPlayer: http://mrambisinistrous.deviantart.com/art/Pedro-the-Mexican-Pyro-Biography-449101960?ga_submit_new=10%253A1398087213
13:34.23OluapPlayerdat pedro
13:34.46MonetI'm feeling it more and more, the more Ice Age and whaever progresses, the more I feel like giving up on collabs and sticking to solo stories.
13:36.28AdmiralPandaMonet: take it from the loner here, it's not as rewarding
13:37.02OluapPlayerXho: For some reason "which is strangely enough, not Mexican" made me laugh
13:37.12Xhohur
13:37.15ImperiosXho: I'd vote for him
13:37.29ImperiosMonet: What about *small* collabs?
13:37.44ImperiosNot Tantum, but much rather something OP and Hachi do
13:37.55MonetMost of the collabs i've led (not New dawn and Andromeda War) have either languished without progress for months
13:38.12ImperiosWelcome to the Slowbro cluh
13:38.14Imperiosclub
13:38.26ImperiosWhere people can be the turtles they are
13:39.06Imperios...You know what?
13:39.33MonetI complain about this constantly I know I know.
13:39.34ImperiosIt's funny now that you say that, given that how much you complained about TND being slow before
13:40.20MonetI tried to keep the pace of these stories up, i've tried time and again asking if people have time to work on them, but nothing.
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13:41.01MonetI've developed a feeling of nausea whenever I ask people because my instinct tells me "hich chance of person turning down offer today"
13:41.02Hachimanhai
13:41.03ImperiosTry shorter stoeiws
13:41.08ImperiosOhai Hachiman
13:41.12Monethigh*
13:41.44dromWhat do you think about this flag? http://i.imgur.com/EFhgYSr.png
13:41.51OluapPlayeromg hai
13:41.52Hachimantis nice flag
13:43.34dromI need a nice name for a nation ruled by celtic vikings.
13:43.44ImperiosCeltvikingia
13:43.59MonetMaybe this is why i've gone back int oTOR and Anno...
13:44.01Zmr56Bombardia
13:44.09ImperiosSilangr
13:44.22HachimanOluapPlayer: did you know that the original Super Mario Bros. has a NG+ mode?
13:44.36OluapPlayerYes
13:44.43ImperiosMonet: Do me a favour and go into GW2 so we could punch the Elder Dragons to death together hur
13:44.44OluapPlayerAll Goombas are replaced with Buzzy Beetles
13:44.46AdmiralPandaMonet: if I knew you were feeling like that I would've doubled my efforts on Profane Rebirth- I just got caught up in D&D so you have my apology
13:44.48HachimanJah
13:45.21MonetAdmiralPanda: No no I loved the D&D game.
13:45.28OluapPlayerI can't tell if I ever finished Super Mario Bros' NG+
13:45.37OluapPlayerBut I did finish The Lost Levels
13:45.44OluapPlayerAnd that counts as a dozen NG+s hur
13:45.48MonetI don't mind that you put Profane Rebirth second
13:46.39OluapPlayerThose invisible blocks right next to bottomless pits
13:46.42OluapPlayerThat game is pure evil
13:46.52HachimanAye
13:47.30OluapPlayerIt's like the level designers had "we hate every Mario player in the world" as their mindset
13:48.25ImperiosMonet: Still think you should join that Inquisition story of ours hur
13:49.05Technobliteratorbtw
13:49.16Technobliteratorif I'm to get a 3DS, would NSMB2 be a bad choice?
13:49.32OluapPlayerWell
13:49.41OluapPlayerThe game is a 6/10 at best imo
13:49.47HachimanNSMB2?
13:49.51OluapPlayerNew Super Mario Bros
13:49.53dromCan I use "Top 10"-list to find the best name as determinated by the community.
13:49.54HachimanAh
13:49.59drom?
13:50.11Technobliteratorit's that bad?
13:50.16OluapPlayerNew Super Mario Bros is Nintendo's equivalent of CoD
13:50.23HachimanIt's not that it's bad
13:50.26HachimanIt's just
13:50.31HachimanWell it's a rehash
13:50.40OluapPlayerYes, all the games are virtually the same
13:51.05MonetIs it me or are most incarnations of skin armour here on the wiki derived from what appears in the Metal Gear series?
13:51.20ImperiosNot mine
13:51.22HachimanSkin armour?
13:51.39ImperiosI have little interest in Metal Gear
13:51.47OluapPlayerIf you're gonna buy a New Super Mario Bros game, buy a single one
13:51.50MonetHachiman: Technology that makes somene's skin bullet-proof
13:51.59OluapPlayerYou're more or less getting the whole series experience in a single game
13:51.59HachimanOh
13:52.01XhoMonet: Like a nanosuit?
13:52.02TechnobliteratorI already bought NSMB 1
13:52.16Technobliteratorbut I'm thinking if I get a 3DS, would it really be that bad?
13:52.19HachimanActually buy Super Mario World
13:52.23HachimanSMW is great
13:52.30OluapPlayerThat's a SNES game you dum
13:52.31MonetXho: More like UNOS' and Torrents nano-armours
13:52.36drom<PROTECTED>
13:52.37HachimanBuy a SNES hur
13:52.52Xhodrom: He's got a self-righteous dull and uninteresting personality
13:53.24OluapPlayeri'd not do it, but if you got spare money then you can buy it
13:53.28Zmr56http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421135255/spore/images/0/0b/Estapole.png The capital city of Estapole
13:53.34OluapPlayerBut the game will feel like a rehash for sure
13:53.35dromI see. But his fiction seems to hold some quality.
13:53.46HachimanHis fiction doesn't hold any quality
13:53.50TechnobliteratorWhat's wrong basing things off Metal Gear, which bases things off hypothetical sciece anyway?
13:53.54ImperiosIt does
13:54.02MonetNothing nothing...
13:54.05ImperiosIt's extremely good in fact
13:54.10OluapPlayerIf I hear the main NSMB theme in a game again I'm gonna go crazy
13:54.19Technobliteratorthat wasn't an attack, it was just a question
13:54.19OluapPlayerThat "pah pah!" sound drives me nuts by now
13:54.26Hachimanolol
13:54.44MonetIts just I remember basing Morphis' dermal armour ability on what Mass Effect and Deus Ex did
13:55.00MonetAnd somehow it feels wildly different as a result.
13:55.11Technobliteratorno problem with that
13:55.19TechnobliteratorXhodrom: He's got a self-righteous dull and uninteresting personality
13:55.35Technobliteratorto elaborate, he's basically a rich kid who spends all his time talking about the stuff he enjoys in life
13:55.42ImperiosBut his fic is good
13:55.44Technobliteratorthen tells us it's meaningless because he gets it all the time anyway
13:55.49OluapPlayerNo, his fiction is broken
13:55.52HachimanHis fic is crap and is designed to be a massive one-up
13:56.03ImperiosIt's separated from the rest of the world
13:56.10Technobliteratorthere are well written and decent parts
13:56.13ImperiosHe's spoiled, but talented
13:56.36Technobliteratoryeah, but people say the same about kanye west, and that makes him soooo much more likeable right
13:56.38Technobliterator<PROTECTED>
13:56.50ImperiosI am not saying he is likeable
13:56.56AdmiralPandaTechno: did you just compare someone else to Kanye West?
13:57.01TechnobliteratorI did
13:57.03Technobliteratorshoot me
13:57.06AdmiralPandastop complimenting Kanye
13:57.11Technobliterator:D
13:57.13ImperiosBut bad person =/= bad fiction
13:57.32HachimanHis fiction is broken
13:57.41AdmiralPandaoh you missed my nachos post before didn't you?
13:57.42HachimanAnd is designed to be an auto-one up on others
13:57.49AdmiralPandahttp://cheezburger.com/8129725696 < you're gonna get a kick out of this
13:57.51ImperiosHe has long since agrees to separate himself from the universe
13:57.54Imperios*agreed
13:58.01OluapPlayerI won't mind him as long as he keeps to himself, but I'm gonna keep a close eye on him
13:58.03Technobliteratorthe best written part of the core federation is that part that isn't overpowered
13:58.21ImperiosBut his fic is well-written, for all his ego
13:58.22Technobliteratorlike, the part where he doesn't refer to its people as gods
13:58.43Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aG9orM6_700b.jpg
13:58.46ImperiosI do not like this pack mentality that is prevalent in this wiki
13:58.51Technobliteratorwell, guess that means I suck because I have an ego and a poorly written fiction
13:58.53Technobliterator:D
13:59.23ImperiosWe do not like someone = he becomes a demon with no good qualities whatsoever
13:59.24OluapPlayerIt's pack mentality because more than one person has the same opinion
13:59.25OluapPlayerRude
13:59.40ImperiosThe boy's got talent, but YES he is an asshole
13:59.44HachimanWhat's the point of him being there if he's not gonna collaberate just so he can get his own way and poison the wiki with his bad godmod fiction
13:59.58ImperiosOluapPlayer: It's not that
14:00.02AdmiralPandaJepardi: that is an excellent post
14:00.14ImperiosIt's that we tend to demonise everyone the community does not like
14:00.38HachimanThere are genuine reasons for that dislike though
14:00.41Technobliteratoruhhhh
14:00.44HachimanIt's not unfounded
14:00.49Technobliteratoryou're talking about witch hunts there
14:00.52Technobliteratorand well
14:01.01Technobliteratoryou do realise that applies to every single community ever right?
14:01.03dromWhere is and what's the name of  the wiki for one-man-up fictions whenver you need it?
14:01.05AdmiralPandahttps://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5663106304/h92D8D2E7/ Let's all laugh at my cousins' terrible manners XD
14:01.05ImperiosHe was arrogant, sure, but he's far from talentless
14:01.10Technobliteratorand that it's human nature?
14:01.20ImperiosTechnobliterator: Does not mean I have to like it
14:01.25XhoHe's basically a bad version of me
14:01.31OluapPlayerur bad enuff
14:01.32Zmr56We all start off stupid.
14:01.33HachimanAdmiralPanda: Daww
14:01.36TechnobliteratorI never said you had to like it, I just said you had to deal with it
14:01.44dromAdmiralPanda: This is gonna be my pick up line whenver I get drunk.
14:01.52AdmiralPandaguys can we stop arguing please?
14:01.55HachimanAdmiralPanda: I feel tempted to use that line next time I see my gf
14:02.00XhoDifference between Mushrum and I is that I am an asshole and I know it
14:02.05XhoHe's an asshole but he doesn't know it
14:02.13OluapPlayerHachiman: Post results
14:02.13HachimanThat and your fic is good
14:02.21ImperiosHis fiction is good, he is bad, but the second does not trump the first
14:02.29Technobliteratorwell
14:02.33AdmiralPandaguys, seriously, time to stop now
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14:02.42dromYeah, this is starting to be uncivilzed for me now.
14:02.44Technobliteratorthere's also the fact that xho is more likeable and more liked
14:02.46Technobliteratorhey random
14:02.47Zmr56Hi
14:02.51OluapPlayerI'm done with this discussion
14:02.52dromHey random
14:02.57The_RandomnessHello everyone
14:02.58TechnobliteratorI thought it was over anyway
14:03.08The_RandomnessDid I just walk into something?
14:03.15Technobliteratornot really
14:03.15AdmiralPandait wasn't over because everyone was dragging it on
14:03.21Technobliteratorwell
14:03.23Technobliteratorit is over now
14:03.37AdmiralPandabreathes a sigh of relief and resumes a cheery expression
14:03.50ImperiosRight, nevermind
14:03.52ImperiosGuys
14:04.12ImperiosNow that I stated that my opinion is different from yours, will you hold it against me?
14:04.22XhoNot really because you're not a dick hur
14:04.25OluapPlayerStop talking about this
14:04.38ImperiosHey that wasn't nice
14:04.46OluapPlayerIt's like you're afraid of us
14:04.52AdmiralPandaGUYS SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY
14:05.01HachimanImperios: Shove it down my throat and I will oppose it, otherwise I'm neutral
14:05.02dromImperios Xho: Can you guys take in the query instead?
14:05.15AdmiralPandaok I've officially lost my cool, can we please just drop the fucking conversation and go about our lives?
14:05.25XhoAdmiralPanda: NEVA
14:05.32AdmiralPandanot. fucking. funny.
14:05.34Xhothrows the dickball at AdmiralPanda
14:05.41ImperiosOluapPlayer: I kinda am
14:05.45AdmiralPandashove it down your throat, it'll stop you talking
14:05.53AdmiralPandaI'm gonna take a break
14:05.56Technobliteratorhave we not stopped talking about this?
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14:06.14OluapPlayerOverreaction much
14:06.14XhoOkay now that was uncalled for
14:06.34Technobliteratorthe next person who talks about this, I'll have to kick. sorry, but that's all I've got
14:06.45drombrb escaping this hole before a new inferno appears.
14:06.49*** part/#sporewiki drom (~dromlexer@78-69-64-21-no123.tbcn.telia.com)
14:06.56Zmr56Adios
14:06.56HachimanYep I'm out
14:06.58*** part/#sporewiki Hachiman (519ba57b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.155.165.123)
14:07.06XhoYou know I'm not very sure why this discussion is heated in the first place
14:07.14The_Randomness^
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14:07.43XhoHate to break it to you but you're all overreacting and should probably calm down and shut it
14:07.53ImperiosAye
14:08.00Technobliteratoryeah, nor do I
14:08.10The_RandomnessI agree, but I wasn't here to witness it in the first place
14:08.14Technobliteratorit didn't seem out of hand to me at all
14:08.16Technobliteratoranyways
14:08.20Technobliteratorabout our daily lives
14:08.25dinohello all
14:08.26dinohow is all doing?
14:08.28Technobliteratorhey dino!
14:08.31Technobliteratori'm fine, you?
14:08.54dinoJo! Great to hear :D! I am great as well! Thanks for asking!
14:09.16ImperiosAlyona didn't come to play tabletop games with me (and other people) yesterday ●~●
14:09.27ImperiosSo I decided not to come either
14:09.28MonetOKay there is now a heavy thunderstorm where I am
14:09.50MonetPLus a bit of hail I think
14:09.58ImperiosHail
14:10.11ImperiosIn April
14:10.24ImperiosGod it must suck living in the UK hur
14:10.36Technobliteratorthunderstorm?
14:10.40The_RandomnessHere we got snow last week
14:10.56Technobliteratorholy shit, it's a clear sky here ._.
14:11.01Technobliteratorbirmingham da best
14:11.04ImperiosIt's warm, sunny and bright there, days last till 9 PM
14:11.13ImperiosBirds singing
14:11.17Technobliteratorin soviet russia
14:11.24Technobliteratorok i got no joke there
14:11.26Technobliteratorfuck
14:11.27MonetI might be wrong about April
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14:11.31MonetAbout hail
14:11.31The_Randomnesskekeke
14:11.38ImperiosHeilstorm
14:11.59ImperiosPureblood Aryan icicles falling from the sky
14:12.04The_Randomnesslel
14:12.10TechnobliteratorSIEG
14:12.19Monet[15:11] <Imperios> It's warm, sunny and bright there, days last till 9 PM [15:11] <Imperios> Birds singing >> how does this make the UK suck?
14:12.26Technobliteratorin ze fuhrer's face, we is ze master race
14:12.29Imperios*here
14:12.32ImperiosI wanted to say here
14:12.37MonetOh
14:12.37ImperiosAs in
14:12.39ImperiosIn Russia
14:12.41MonetThat makes more sense
14:12.47ImperiosSaint-Petersburg
14:12.49Technobliteratorthat's what it is like here too
14:12.52OluapPlayerHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBqMxvqLQuw
14:12.52Technobliteratorin brum town
14:13.00Technobliteratordamnit I have no zmr to confirm that
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14:13.17Technobliteratorthe only two users who come from the same city
14:13.37quark8Which two?
14:13.52HachimanOluapPlayer: I prefer Nichijoint hur
14:13.56Technobliteratorme and zmr are both from birmingham uk
14:14.38OluapPlayerhttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/740/595/da7.jpg rude
14:14.46HachimanOluapPlayer: Also on that video, "Praise it and blaze it" - Abyss Gravelord
14:15.07OluapPlayerhur
14:15.10ImperiosGah
14:16.22OluapPlayerHachiman: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/740/558/34e.jpg
14:17.29Hachimanolol
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14:18.15TekDroidHello
14:18.35Technobliteratorhmm
14:18.42Technobliteratoris there a Smash Bros for 3DS?
14:18.53HachimanThere will be this Summer
14:18.58TekDroidThe new one is supposed to be.
14:19.03Technobliteratorah, sweet
14:19.10TechnobliteratorMario Kart? any 3D Mario game?
14:19.22TekDroidI think there's a 3DS Mario Kark
14:19.23Technobliteratorby 3D I mean, like Galaxy, Mario 64, etc
14:19.26TekDroid*Kart
14:19.36TekDroidI believe there's one.
14:19.44TekDroidMight be wrong though
14:19.44OluapPlayerThere's Mario Kart DS
14:20.12TekDroidI personally don't care much for Mario.
14:20.14OluapPlayerThe only 3D Mario game in the 3DS is Super Mario 3D Land
14:20.45Technobliteratorah okay
14:20.49Technobliteratoroh
14:20.54Technobliteratorwhat's virtual console like?
14:20.58quark8<PROTECTED>
14:21.06OluapPlayerVirtual Console?
14:21.17OluapPlayerI think that's an official emulator, but I'm not quite sure
14:21.40Technobliteratoryeah, it's the one that apparently comes with eShop
14:21.43TekDroidVC is that thing in the shop to purchase games from older systems
14:21.43The_RandomnessThat's pretty much what it is
14:21.53TechnobliteratorI just want to be able to play older games
14:22.07Technobliteratorlike, Mario 64 is one I've always wanted to play, oh and FFIV for the GBA instead of the DS port
14:22.22TekDroidAll I personally know is they have most of the Zelda franchise on there. XD
14:22.43OluapPlayerYou never played Mario 64?
14:23.17Technobliteratornope :(
14:23.21The_Randomness*stunned silence*
14:23.23HachimanFucking
14:23.23HachimanWhy
14:23.27Technobliteratorand apparently it was Jak and Daxter's biggest inspiration
14:23.31OluapPlayerIn that case you could get Mario 64 DS
14:23.43OluapPlayerIt's more or less the same game as the original but with extra content
14:23.44The_Randomness^
14:23.51Technobliteratoroh, can you get that in the eShop?
14:23.51TekDroidI played Mario 64 DS, but never really cared much for it.
14:24.04OluapPlayerI don't know about that
14:24.17TekDroidMario 64 DS is for DS, so no.
14:24.32The_RandomnessYou can play DS games on the 3DS though
14:24.34TekDroidVirtual Console is only 2 generstions or more back
14:24.53Technobliteratoryeah you can, but can you buy DS games digitally?
14:25.06TekDroidDS games are still compatible and most stores still sell them
14:25.22TekDroidYou can purchase newer 3DS games digitally
14:25.22Technobliterator(don't know any that do)
14:25.34The_RandomnessGet it on Amazon or something
14:25.45Technobliteratorfair enough
14:25.53TekDroidReally? Most stores here even have more for DS than 3DS, iirc
14:26.09The_RandomnessAlso get Radiant Historia, another DS game
14:27.48TekDroidMy favourite 3DS port is still probably Ocarina of Time though. That ome was awesome
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14:28.38TekDroidHello Monet
14:29.18dinohello monet
14:30.14HachimanWhat's the current year in the Fantasyverse?
14:31.25XhoStill 31 NA
14:31.29XhoWinter 31 NA
14:31.43XhoIt doesn't move forward like the Fictionverse since it isn't as active
14:32.08ImperiosAye
14:32.40Technobliteratorstill need to do cleansing flames stuff
14:34.16Monet_We all have busy plots
14:37.35OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/740/443/666.png
14:38.39Xhonur
14:38.50OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/739/358/78c.jpg the new Donkey Kong game sure is good
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14:39.00Technobliteratorhttp://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/5/53/Embr_kill_15.mp3
14:39.00XhoOh god
14:39.17XhoOluapPlayer: Seasonal Dong Expansion Pack
14:39.22OluapPlayerolol
14:39.25OluapPlayerhttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/739/296/b83.jpg Kezoreg
14:41.12OluapPlayerhttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/740/890/442.jpg christ
14:41.33XhoOluapPlayer: "Foreward by Santorakh"
14:42.00OluapPlayerTop gun cap + Kamina glasses is a good combo
14:42.21Imperioshttp://www.funnyjunk.com/imgrd/rd/comments/cc/da/ccdab202e79f14cb307c38b44e20e223.jpg/ Javins
14:42.25ImperiosJavina
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14:47.26peekya-boo
14:48.23OluapPlayerHachiman: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/648/120/f2c
14:48.39Hachimanolol
14:49.39peekyIt looks like it's chill here now.
14:50.06OluapPlayerhttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/344/729/62a.gif kalcedia is taht you
14:51.31XhoIf Hachi got that deal he'd go nuts
14:52.44AdmiralPandaespecially since you can get rupees for mowing the lawn, and for actually mowing the lawn
14:52.59XhoHachi - *mows Kalcedias' 'lawn'*
14:53.05OluapPlayerhur
14:53.55AdmiralPandaKnew somebody would get that joke XD
14:54.13OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/740/268/d2c.gif Got to move at a reasonable pace
14:57.36XhoMoving at the speed of Sunday afternoon
15:00.10OluapPlayerhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/696/386/de0.jpg I feel like this picture fits great part of the wiki's cast
15:00.26AdmiralPandathat really does
15:00.35AdmiralPandain fact that defines all of Hel'Bre'K's relationships bar one
15:00.41Xhohttps://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/l/t31.0-8/10005835_699139143466612_8458652726206792435_o.jpg listen 'ere u lil shit
15:01.30OluapPlayerhur
15:02.11OluapPlayerhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/737/406/0e2.jpg Hachi
15:03.17OluapPlayerhttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/734/541/70d.gif i'm too sexy for dis shit
15:03.49AdmiralPandahehe that glitch
15:03.50Hachimanohgodlol
15:08.59Technobliteratorbrb
15:10.05Wormyhttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-u5NWM_jMLDM/T2KBGknCi2I/AAAAAAAAIvE/qd0NefkpU1M/s1600/img-bd_sw_dw_crossover.jpg
15:12.41WormyThere needs to be a proper sci-fi crossover film one day.
15:12.47WormyIt will be crap.
15:12.53WormyBut it is still needed
15:16.29Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/aFjK0fi.jpg Here's my desktop
15:16.44AdmiralPandanice
15:17.28AdmiralPandahttp://cd1.leviathyn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Archangel-Michael.jpg this is mine currently
15:17.44AdmiralPandadon't ask me the significance I just like the picture
15:17.45WormyWhy two Steam tiles?
15:17.59HachimanI read that as "Michael Jackson" for a moment
15:18.14HachimanWormy: Why not :p
15:18.32Wormycuz you not bothered to delete one
15:18.55OluapPlayerdat TTGL
15:19.35TechnobliteratorFFVII
15:19.38Technobliteratorwhich you never play
15:19.39Technobliteratorcuz ur dum
15:20.30OluapPlayer<PROTECTED>
15:21.22WormyI will show mine once I've bothered to transfer my games over
15:21.23ImperiosNova pasta
15:21.29ImperiosSounds tasty
15:21.37OluapPlayerhur
15:21.49OluapPlayerThat's my super personal folder
15:21.53WormyI'm intrigued by your virtual GameBoy Advanced
15:22.13OluapPlayerThat's a GBA emulator
15:22.23ImperiosAka porn fodder hue
15:22.28OluapPlayermehbeh
15:22.43Technobliteratorok
15:22.46ImperiosHide it deeper hur
15:22.47Technobliteratorwho wants to do cleansing flames rp
15:22.52ImperiosNot me
15:22.52HachimanNot today
15:22.58HachimanI'm doing no RPs today
15:23.10Technobliteratorok
15:23.13Technobliteratori'll probably cancel
15:23.38OluapPlayerI actually got a Nova Pasta inside Nova Pasta
15:23.42OluapPlayerNever bothered to name them
15:23.52ImperiosPastaception
15:24.59OluapPlayerNova Pasta #2 is where I keep the super SUPER personal stuff
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15:25.27Sparty_Gasp
15:25.46GhelHello.
15:25.58ImperiosAka Clotho-on-Hachi porn
15:26.10AdmiralPandaSHH don't mention that out loud
15:26.22OluapPlayerActually that's where I keep my non-Steam games
15:26.23Angrybirds_Morning!
15:26.38OluapPlayerAs well as music
15:26.50ImperiosHur
15:27.02OluapPlayerandpornfolder AHEM I said nothing
15:27.04ImperiosI keep all my music in a specific folder, same with my games
15:27.19ImperiosClotho on Hachi woooh
15:28.03WormyHello
15:28.13ImperiosHi
15:28.28Sparty_Hi all
15:29.17AdmiralPandathat was odd
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15:29.28Sparty_Hi all
15:29.31Sparty_Again
15:30.03Sparty_Plz no kill me
15:30.21Sparty_I need friends
15:30.32Sparty_Hello?
15:30.34ImperiosMushroom?
15:30.39Sparty_Anyone?
15:30.40ImperiosSpartian?
15:30.48Sparty_Dont hurt me
15:30.48ImperiosRighr
15:30.54Sparty_Ahh
15:30.55ImperiosRighr
15:31.05ImperiosJust behave yourself and do not spam
15:31.07ImperiosDeal?
15:31.11Sparty_At least hachi is not here
15:31.17ImperiosHe is
15:31.24Sparty_I just feel he hates me
15:31.31Sparty_Oh
15:31.40Sparty_Sorry dude
15:31.45ImperiosApologise to him for your rudeness
15:31.54Sparty_Groans
15:32.00Sparty_I just did
15:32.22HachimanBehave yourself
15:32.24ImperiosHachiman: http://desertsuntanning.com Javina owns a tanning booth now
15:32.25WormyLook, we are quite happy for you to be part of this community if you don't get into fights and mess about.
15:32.30ImperiosYeah
15:32.34Sparty_At least he isnt like scar, from althistory wiki
15:32.47Sparty_Me and him had a feud
15:32.55Sparty_For like a week
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15:33.03Sparty_Was pretty bad
15:33.13DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
15:33.18WormyHi
15:33.20Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10155401_738171586223666_5852262710670257729_n.jpg My college days
15:33.24Sparty_I know a loophole to the rules
15:33.35ImperiosHm?
15:33.38DrodoEmpireHachi: Hah
15:33.43Sparty_You can make fanfiction god empires
15:33.47DrodoEmpireWho is Sparty_?
15:33.55ImperiosSpartian
15:33.55Sparty_As in Thor or Zeus
15:34.03DrodoEmpireMmhm...
15:34.05OluapPlayerNo you can't
15:34.06ImperiosSparty_: Don't do that
15:34.11ImperiosMake smaller fictions
15:34.14drom|awayDrodoEmpire, I got a flag for a nation ready.
15:34.20DrodoEmpireOh?
15:34.20Sparty_Thor vs Kaimk'ski
15:34.24DrodoEmpireThank you drom
15:34.25Monet_Spearian: My advice, PLEASE avoid posting multiple lines when you want ot say something
15:34.30ImperiosYes
15:34.31Monet_Talking
15:34.32Monet_like this
15:34.34Monet_gets very
15:34.36Monet_annoying
15:34.37ImperiosANNOTING
15:34.42ImperiosANNOYING
15:34.42Sparty_Sorry
15:34.55DrodoEmpireYes, Imp is very annoted by that.
15:34.57ImperiosSparty_: Start with smaller fictions, deal?
15:34.58DrodoEmpire>:3
15:35.03Sparty_But who win, Thor or Kaimk'ski
15:35.10ImperiosKamik'ski
15:35.11Sparty_Okay to deal
15:35.16ImperiosThe God of Skiing
15:35.30Sparty_But Thor would put up one hell of a fight
15:35.42HachimanThis discussion is boring
15:35.44ImperiosIt'd be fun
15:35.55Sparty_His strength is just way to OP
15:36.04ImperiosYeah we do not like discussions like that
15:36.13Sparty_And his son, Magni, is the god of strength
15:36.16ImperiosIt is not you, it's just that we have overgrown cock fights
15:36.26HachimanI just have an overgrown cock
15:36.45DrodoEmpireOh dear.
15:36.47OluapPlayerhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/537/783/8a0.jpg
15:36.54Sparty_Age two. He lifted a dead Stone Giant off Thor that none of the other gods could lift
15:37.00Monet_ISparty_: The discussion eas easy to decide on because it's a Polytheistic god verses God.
15:37.03Sparty_Like it was a feather
15:37.06Monet_No competition
15:37.21Sparty_But against someone else
15:37.24HachimanKamik'Shi can bench press the universe
15:37.25Hachimangg no re
15:37.32Sparty_Like
15:37.43Sparty_Crap. I forgot the others names
15:37.53Sparty_Antedelluvin
15:38.08Sparty_I know i spelt that wrong
15:38.24Sparty_But sntill
15:38.28Sparty_Still
15:38.35Sparty_Damn it
15:38.37HachimanIt would help your case more if you stop talking about godbeings and empires
15:38.39ImperiosAnted is more of a schemer really
15:38.41ImperiosAye
15:38.52ImperiosTalk about something more mundane
15:39.00Sparty_What are other Gods?
15:39.22Sparty_Cause i just feel dumb now
15:39.25ImperiosFantasy or Ficrion?
15:39.31ImperiosFiction
15:39.31Sparty_Both
15:39.47ImperiosFantasy has Simulacra and Colossi
15:39.51Sparty_Wait
15:40.02HachimanThe only god I need is Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann :p
15:40.07ImperiosFictionverse has no defined major deities anymoee
15:40.10OluapPlayer*Super
15:40.13HachimanAye
15:40.18Sparty_Could i include a very well known piece of horroe
15:40.21HachimanSuper Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
15:40.30Sparty_Horror
15:40.39ImperiosHachiman: Praise Kamina, The One Who Wears Glasses
15:40.47ImperiosSparty_: As long as he is not OP
15:40.52HachimanImperios: Praise Kamina, the Demon from Underground
15:40.57Sparty_Here is a clue: He drinks blood
15:41.03ImperiosAlready have
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15:41.11ImperiosVarelos von Dalverat
15:41.14Sparty_Dracula
15:41.22Sparty_Well?
15:41.22ImperiosAlready have one
15:41.30Sparty_Really?
15:41.39Sparty_Hmmm
15:41.45HachimanYou know it's funny because Kamina can only really wear those shades in reality if he's always looking up
15:41.52Sparty_Frankinsteins monster?
15:41.53Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nightshade_Clan
15:41.54HachimanAnd he's nearly always looking up
15:41.56OluapPlayerScrew reality
15:41.57ImperiosGolem
15:42.11Sparty_No, THE Monster
15:42.12ImperiosNightshade Clan has one too
15:42.19Sparty_The original
15:42.22HachimanI still prefer Xerlion to Varelos hur
15:42.37OluapPlayerXerlion is an awful name
15:42.46Sparty_So is Fred
15:42.50Sparty_And Bob
15:42.54HachimanI like Xerlion
15:42.57HachimanIt's a cool name
15:42.58Sparty_And Justien Bieber
15:43.03ImperiosWe have one
15:43.11ImperiosThe Golem
15:43.17Sparty_Hmmm
15:43.27Sparty_Dullahan?
15:43.42Sparty_Irish sprit of death
15:43.45ImperiosNow that is interestinf
15:43.54ImperiosMake a fiction based on one
15:43.58OluapPlayerNew godbeings are not allowed regardless of universe
15:44.04ImperiosLet's see what can you do
15:44.14ImperiosOluapPlayer: It could be a spirit, not necessarily a god
15:44.26Sparty_The dullahan is the headless horsemen
15:44.26ImperiosThe Endless Host is composed of spirits
15:44.33ImperiosRight, make one
15:44.38ImperiosFor the Fantasyverse
15:44.40Sparty_Whip made of a human spine
15:44.51WormySparty_  I have a bottle of wine brought back to me from Dracula's castle.
15:45.03WormyNot tried to see if it blood yet
15:45.08Sparty_My
15:45.26Sparty_My little sis wants me
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15:45.29Sparty_Gtgt
15:45.52Wormy<PROTECTED>
15:45.57AdmiralPandayeah I'm going to lump him in the noob category
15:45.59WormyDistraction is key
15:46.03AdmiralPandadoesn't get the plot, doesn't try to
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15:46.44OluapPlayerWhat a shitty way to end my 5 day-long holiday
15:46.52HachimanAye
15:47.03OluapPlayerbbl lunch
15:47.20HachimanWhy does he always come back and never learn
15:47.23HachimanIt's a chore
15:47.23ImperiosIn times like this I wonder if my belief in fundamental human decency is worth it
15:47.24AdmiralPandadamn you got a 5-day holiday? mine was only 4
15:47.33HachimanI gotta 2 week holiday
15:47.36HachimanI'm on my last day
15:47.42AdmiralPandaImperios: I gave up on humanity years ago, you guys are the exception :P
15:47.53AdmiralPandaHachiman: I'm working not learning, holidays don't exist for me :P
15:48.09ImperiosIf you noticed I am friendly towards everyone for some reason
15:48.20HachimanHe's not worth being friendly towards
15:48.21ImperiosEveryone deep down is a good person... I hope so
15:48.29HachimanI say permaban him so he doesn't come back next time
15:48.36HachimanIt's a chore having to deal with him
15:48.38ImperiosWell frankly
15:48.44AdmiralPandaoh I'm just friendly because if I'm not, I can't claim to be better than the rest of the rabble in the world :P
15:48.56ImperiosOutside of his stupidity he has done nothing criminal
15:49.09HachimanHe's harassing the wiki
15:49.13DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Brave_New_World_Universe/Warfare - Added two new sections that should be useful
15:49.18HachimanHe's not learning from what he's doing wrong
15:49.47OluapPlayerTechnically he's evading his IRC ban again
15:49.53OluapPlayerBut I'll not ban him for now
15:50.03ImperiosHe at least tries to be friendly
15:50.15ImperiosMaybe he's just a kid
15:50.17ImperiosLet him grow up
15:50.19HachimanOh yeah cuz ratting me out is being friendly
15:50.36ImperiosHey at least he tried to apologise
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15:51.12DrodoEmpireHello
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15:51.24ImperiosSporeWiki feels like Russia at times
15:51.26CyrannianHello.
15:51.29HachimanI don't care; he shouldn't have said anything in the first place to aplogize for
15:51.30at35zHello guys
15:51.46DrodoEmpireImp: And he went back on it many times; He's a fucking moron imo
15:51.46DrodoEmpireAnd hi
15:51.52HachimanAye he's cancerous
15:51.55ImperiosLots of illegal immigrants and a small elite that treats everyone else with disdai
15:51.58AdmiralPandahai Cyrannian
15:51.58GhelHello.
15:52.10HachimanIt's not unfounded disdain
15:52.20HachimanHe's done this many times before
15:52.22AdmiralPandaImperios: Drodo, Angrybirds and from are standing proof against that idea
15:52.25HachimanIt's not gonna be any different
15:52.32AdmiralPandathe only people we treat with disdain are the ones worthy of that disdain
15:52.43AdmiralPandaanyway let's not start this argument again
15:52.44DrodoEmpireHe's apologised plenty of times and went back on it many times by harassing people and just being an idiot time and again
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15:53.17HachimanJust terminate the weak link and have it be over with :p
15:53.26ImperiosHachiman: I ain't talking about Spartian hur
15:53.41ImperiosI'm talking about the constant influx of new users
15:53.49Technobliteratorhey there
15:54.02HachimanNew users who don't read the rules or guidelines and have no respect for the older more experienced users
15:54.06Technobliteratorurm
15:54.09AdmiralPandaImperios: as I said, Drodo and Angrybirds are living proof that we don't default to disdain. this is all I'm going to say on the issue
15:54.14ImperiosTrue
15:54.14DrodoEmpire^
15:54.17Technobliteratorwhat happened? :|
15:54.22DrodoEmpireSpartian happene
15:54.24DrodoEmpire*happened
15:54.26AdmiralPandaTechnobliterator: Spartian got on the IRC
15:54.32Technobliteratordespite being banned? :|
15:54.36HachimanJust permaban him and get it over with, he's gonna fuck up anyway like all the other times
15:54.38AdmiralPandayep
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15:54.55ImperiosI am anti-permaban, ajust ban him for a few years
15:54.57Sparty_Back
15:55.02ImperiosThen he'll grow up
15:55.05ImperiosHello
15:55.08Sparty_Aww crap
15:55.11AdmiralPandadat timing
15:55.16AdmiralPandaall I'm going to say
15:55.18AdmiralPandadat timing
15:55.18Sparty_Damn it all
15:55.21DrodoEmpirescreams "ITS HIM, ITS HIM! AHHH!" and runs from the village
15:55.23ImperiosProve your intelligence by leaving voluntarily hur
15:55.35Sparty_E = mc
15:55.35WormyJust shut the fuck up everyone
15:55.41AdmiralPandaI'm actually cracking up right now :P
15:55.41ImperiosWithout throwing a shitstorm
15:55.43TechnobliteratorSparty_: if you were banned on the IRC and want to appeal to return, then don't do it this way
15:55.52Sparty_Dude
15:55.56WormyWhat you are doing is quite honestly immature handling of the sitation
15:55.59AdmiralPandaoh god that was too perfect to be scripted
15:56.00Sparty_I dont think im banned
15:56.04Technobliteratoris not a dude
15:56.13Sparty_And speaking of growing up
15:56.14ImperiosShe's a girl yes
15:56.26Sparty_Have you ever changed a diaper?
15:56.27Angrybirds_This can only go to worse places.
15:56.35Technobliterator...what?
15:56.37WormySparty, I think you should make an appeal on SporeWiki.
15:56.38Sparty_At 16
15:56.44Angrybirds_It's gone to worse places.
15:56.48AdmiralPanda^
15:56.50TechnobliteratorI have, as a matter of fact...I have babysitted before
15:56.51Technobliteratorand what is your point?
15:56.53Sparty_I have shaved twice now
15:56.58ImperiosÎúyand
15:57.02Technobliteratorgood for you?
15:57.07ImperiosI shave weekly
15:57.11AdmiralPandaGG bro, GG
15:57.12Sparty_My mom well have her tenth baby in july
15:57.19ImperiosGood for you
15:57.20HachimanHe's being stupid
15:57.23AdmiralPandasomebody's catholic
15:57.24HachimanKick him
15:57.26ImperiosProve your intelligence
15:57.27Sparty_Being second oldest is not easy
15:57.28Technobliteratorare you going to say something relevant or are you going to keep saying irrelevant stuff? because if it's the latter, then I will ban you
15:57.30AdmiralPanda(that not meant in disrespect)
15:57.40Jepardiraughs hysterically
15:57.42Technobliteratorif the former, I won't
15:57.50AdmiralPandaI'm with Jepardi on this one
15:57.51Sparty_I have tried just now
15:57.56Sparty_I think
15:58.00Sparty_No
15:58.06AdmiralPandanone of that was relevant to anything
15:58.10Technobliteratoryou're not saying anything relevant. you're telling us things that don't matter.
15:58.10ImperiosProve your intelligence by acting intelligently
15:58.24Sparty_I jist think that the way to impress people is with jokes
15:58.30WormyLet us all discuss this matter with intelligence and maturity.
15:58.36Technobliterator+
15:58.37Wormy------------------------------------------------------------------------
15:58.40AdmiralPanda+
15:58.41WormyNow begin
15:58.43Sparty_I need both for age 35
15:58.45Technobliteratorwormy, congratulations, you get a promotion
15:58.45AdmiralPandaI'm gonna keep quiet in this one
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15:58.57Sparty_When i run for US president
15:59.01HachimanEither shut up with the stupid and irrelevant comments or get out because it's not impressing anybody
15:59.02ImperiosPæthariçon
15:59.11Sparty_No really
15:59.22Sparty_I have my heart set on it
15:59.25HachimanKick him
15:59.30Technobliteratorthis is your last chance
15:59.31Sparty_For real
15:59.39HachimanHe's a troll, IP ban him
15:59.40Technobliteratorsay something relevant or I'll ban you
15:59.41Sparty_But i dont know how
15:59.46Sparty_At all
15:59.53Sparty_Wait
15:59.54WormyStay relevant.3
15:59.54CyrannianIf Spartian's ban has expired, I don't see what the problem is. It's not like his comments are any less stupid than what other people say on a regular basis.
15:59.54ImperiosВсе плохо. Все очень плохо.
16:00.06ImperiosAye
16:00.07Sparty_What if i just didnt tell a joke?
16:00.12Sparty_And shut up?
16:00.21Technobliteratorhis wiki ban expired, his irc ban did not
16:00.29Sparty_You sure?
16:00.40Sparty_Wait
16:00.42Technobliteratorirc bans cannot expire, you just remove them
16:00.44HachimanI don't mind you talking so long as it stays relevant to say the conversation/topic at hand
16:00.47Technobliterator+
16:00.48Sparty_You must be right
16:00.49dromThe IRC ban is permanent.
16:00.51AdmiralPanda+
16:00.51WormyMaybe you should prove yourself on the wiki Sparty_
16:00.53DrodoEmpireI agree Hachi
16:01.03Sparty_So i should leave or what
16:01.09HachimanYou should leave for now
16:01.11ImperiosYou can
16:01.13Sparty_But for the record
16:01.13WormyFor now, yes
16:01.24AdmiralPandapulls up the record
16:01.32DrodoEmpireSpartian, I'll put it to you this way; You've lost respect with a LOT of people, but by actually honest to god trying maybe you can earn it back.
16:01.37ImperiosThen we'll accept you, but it will tske time
16:01.38AdmiralPanda(sorry that was just a little immature but I need to loose my nervous energy)
16:01.41WormyWe should give you a couple of months, is that okay?
16:01.47Sparty_Damn, i always ask questions, but dont know what else to say
16:01.52ImperiosTwo months
16:01.54HachimanJust leave then
16:01.59HachimanI don't want to see you talk anymore
16:01.59Technobliteratorhovers over the kick button
16:02.01Sparty_Wait
16:02.05Sparty_Wait
16:02.12Sparty_I just
16:02.19Sparty_Sighs
16:02.24HachimanKick him
16:02.25Sparty_You know what
16:02.28Technobliteratormy mercy has expired.
16:02.33*** kick/#sporewiki [Sparty_!~Technobli@host86-149-244-112.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] by Technobliterator (Sparty_)
16:02.40ImperiosVery well
16:02.42AdmiralPandaeh, that ends that
16:02.44HachimanHe has some fucking nerve
16:02.54TechnobliteratorI told him repeatedly and he didn't take it in
16:02.55Tek0516DroidAgreed
16:03.05HachimanHe's just cancer
16:03.08drom"my mercy has expired". I guess I'll steal it from you techno.
16:03.09Monet_Well I just saw an interrogation
16:03.15Technobliteratorthat in itself is reason to kick, any previous ban was irrelevant
16:03.17Imperiosaye
16:03.37AdmiralPandathrows down a holo-grenade of a naked Kalcedia dancing the Hatsune Miko dance
16:03.47HachimanAs much as I'd enjoy that
16:03.53HachimanI'm severely irritated
16:04.17AdmiralPandaI know, just trying to lighten the mood
16:04.25HachimanI said that he would fuck up and not listen like last time and thus he stayed here for longer than what was necessary
16:04.30Monet_We WERE asking him to say something meaningful under extreme pressure
16:04.43Technobliteratorwe were asking him to say something meaningful and he was not
16:04.44HachimanAll he had to say wa
16:04.45Hachiman*was
16:04.48Hachiman"Alright I'll stop"
16:05.00ImperiosWe scared him it's true
16:05.10Technobliteratorwe clearly didn't scare him
16:05.15HachimanWe didn't scare him
16:05.17HachimanHe's a troll
16:05.22Technobliteratorbecause I repeatedly said the same thing, and he kept going "hurr durr im going for us president"
16:05.25CyrannianIt looked like people were ganging up on him.
16:05.27ImperiosI think he is just stupid
16:05.28ImperiosAye
16:05.36HachimanA cancerous troll whose a weak link in our system
16:05.38ImperiosHe tried to joke I believe
16:05.41HachimanAnd irritates everybody
16:05.55Technobliteratorpeople were ganging up, I'm aware of that. But he was making silly comments and not helping his case
16:06.11DrodoEmpireCyrannian: Perhaps but who's to say he doesn't deserve it? He's messed up and straight out harassed people enough times that he deserves some disdain and even mockery
16:06.15TechnobliteratorI gave him multiple last chances
16:06.43Tek0516DroidI actually left an intelligent comment to his blog post too. :P http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Clanden/Brave_New_World#comm-183952
16:06.48Technobliteratoruh, no, DrodoEmpire, no one deserves to be ganged up on and bullied, everyone deserves a second chance
16:07.03HachimanYeah but he had multiple second chances prior
16:07.06dromIndeed
16:07.11Technobliteratorthe point wasn't that, the point was that he was failing to use his second chance properly
16:07.17CyrannianI'm not saying he's not an idiot. I'm saying that the results might have been better if he was allowed to make his case in an environment in which people don't gang up on him because they think he's a "troll".
16:07.30ImperiosExactly
16:07.48TechnobliteratorI do agree, and some of the comments made were unwarranted
16:08.02DrodoEmpireTech: You mean his 99th chance? We've given him plenty of chances. If he wants to make an appeal and seriously apologise again and start being serious then he can.
16:08.05Technobliteratorbut at any rate, I've just kicked him, he hasn't been banned
16:08.17DrodoEmpireBut yes I do think it was excessive
16:08.21HachimanJust keep him on the wiki, he'll give up and leave at some point and then we won't have to bother with it
16:08.36WormyYou know what is wrong with what just happened?
16:09.09WormyHalf the chat imploded into unnecessary arguments in and amongst yourselves.
16:09.32WormyHow is Spartian supposed to respond?
16:09.41drom+
16:09.44HachimanWith intelligence
16:09.50HachimanWe told him what he was doing wrong
16:09.54WormyHow are we supposed to deal with this issue swiftly?
16:10.04Technobliteratorin my defense, I didn't gang up on him, I tried to ask him to talk sense
16:10.11Technobliteratorand in fact I gave him many opportunities
16:10.14Monet_Everyone was shouting at him and Techno outright demanded he say osmething meaningful
16:10.21HachimanWe told him what he was doing wrong before and we told him again today
16:10.35HachimanAnd he still didn't heed our message
16:10.43WormyFrom now on, I think only operators should handle this.
16:10.50Monet_That's it. Someone set me up with a private channel. I'LL talk with him
16:11.08Monet_Since I wasn't paying attention to most of the yelling going on
16:11.17AdmiralPandaI'm gonna go bury my head in the sand and write something pervy, see you guys later
16:11.19Technobliteratorthat, kind of goes against what wormy just requested, but it's not our job to tell you not to do that
16:11.32Technobliteratorfeel free to make a channel and ask him to join it I guess
16:11.55dromIf he still has his page open.
16:12.02CyrannianHe doesn't,
16:12.33ImperiosRighr Cyr
16:12.34CyrannianOne on one conversation with someone he trusts could be best.
16:12.42TechnobliteratorI'll agree
16:12.46ImperiosMe or you, perhaps?
16:12.48HachimanI don't know why we're bothering, it's an accident waiting to happen. Again. Like the last times.
16:12.51Technobliteratorsorry if you thought I handled that wrong
16:13.50Technobliteratorwell, that mood sucks. YO ADMIN SQUAD WHO WANTS TO PURGE UNUSED PAGES
16:14.17HachimanI think you should sort out the main problem first
16:14.50HachimanHe's afflicting our community with harassment and irrelevant BS
16:14.52Monet_I think i'm getting a headache from all this shouting, tantrums, stress, one-upping or whatever fucking else is wrong with this community at the moment
16:15.13CyrannianA few weeks ago I mentioned that we should set up channels to discuss the problems discussed on the recent blogs (and possibly today). Now seems like a good time.
16:15.14ImperiosAye
16:15.32Technobliteratorpermenant channels?
16:15.46CyrannianNo. Just channels to discuss possible solutions.
16:15.52Cyrannian*temporary channels
16:16.00ImperiosI HAVE A FUCKING JOLLY GOOD IDEA
16:16.04ImperiosHOW ABOUT
16:16.08ImperiosWE MAKE A CHANNEL
16:16.15ImperiosFOR NOOBS SPECIFICSLLY
16:16.31HachimanBad idea; that promotes isolation from the main community
16:16.35ImperiosYOU JOIN THERE AND PROVE YOUR WORTH AND THEN WE ALLOW YOU ACCESS TO THIS PLACE
16:16.38Angrybirds_That would just deepen the divide.
16:17.05Wormy"Don't bite the newcomers"
16:17.11CyrannianI think he's being sarcastic.
16:17.16Wormyaye
16:17.21Angrybirds_Oh, sorry Impy.
16:17.49CyrannianBecause it seems like a good analogy of the current situation.
16:17.53TechnobliteratorI was saying
16:17.55dromGolden rule. FULL CAPS = sarcasam.
16:18.04Technobliteratorif you wanted a permenant subchannel I can register it and everything
16:18.08Imperios...Yeah. Yeah
16:18.15ImperiosWe could make a subchannel for fic
16:18.22ImperiosAnd funny picshurs
16:18.28HachimanWhy
16:18.30Technobliteratorwhy
16:18.33Technobliterator?
16:18.35TechnobliteratorI don't see the value
16:18.39HachimanFic and funny pictures are the main thing that keeps the main channel alive
16:18.48ImperiosTrue
16:19.05ImperiosMeh I can't think straight currently
16:19.17dromJust have a helpdesk subchannel?
16:19.22Monet_Several times funny pictures have completely drawn attentino away from peopel requesting for others to look at their work
16:19.43ImperiosLet me take a break and write about satire in Saltykov-Schedrin's literature
16:20.28Angrybirds_Hm. I just found out that all of my classes are canceled for the day.
16:21.09DrodoEmpireMonet_: I definately agree
16:21.32dromWell. I gotta agree with Monet.
16:21.37HachimanOh so we should just talk completely about the wiki and kick anybody who goes off-topic in the slightest?
16:21.56DrodoEmpireI say we keep the channel as-is; What's the issue there?
16:22.29DrodoEmpireIf things go utterly out-of-control all it takes is an admin to fire a few warning shots and the whole problem goes off
16:22.37drom"Hi, how's everyone?" *kicked (Reason: Off-topic)
16:22.53HachimanIf you want to oppose linking to pictures not uploaded on the wiki feelf ree
16:22.58Monet_Hachiman: Now that's just Draconian
16:23.02Hachiman*feel
16:23.09DrodoEmpireHachi: I neevr said that
16:23.13DrodoEmpire*never
16:23.14HachimanNot you Drodo
16:23.22DrodoEmpireOh. Sorry
16:23.29HachimanIt's fine :3
16:23.40DrodoEmpireAnyway, why are we entertaining this idea? It sounds utterly ridiculous
16:23.44DrodoEmpire:3
16:24.19HachimanBecause funny pictures not on the wiki apparently distract from fiction
16:24.23dromPut more satire until it falls down the pot?
16:24.34DrodoEmpireThe way I see it is that now, people can laugh and have fun with funny pictures and during the downtime people can post fiction
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16:24.48DrodoEmpireIt works well enough, even if it isn't perfect
16:25.06HachimanThat's how it works now doesn't it?
16:25.07EssayriosI see now that the situation is getting out of hand
16:25.15DrodoEmpireExactly
16:25.26WormyCyrannian has posted an idea that might work
16:25.37WormyInstead of banning off-topic stuff here
16:25.40DrodoEmpireAnd Hachi all that Monet suggested is that he feels a bit frustrated when people don't look at his stuff, one of the problems could be that people are already busy with other stuff or carrying on
16:25.49EssayriosNow I'll do something that I'll regret but that will clearly calm things down
16:25.52Essayrios<PROTECTED>
16:25.56WormyWe create a sub-channeled for users to post their stuff they feel is neglected
16:26.00Hachimanaww yiss
16:26.08EssayriosSee
16:26.15PandaAwayoh my
16:26.26Hachimanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kga2soqvMF0
16:26.27EssayriosIt worked
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16:26.54Wormyeyes roll inside out and explode into petals
16:27.03DrodoEmpireEssayrios:... Damnit now I lost my train of thought...
16:27.24EssayriosImperios's secret weapon
16:27.34Technobliterator...why are people talking about splitting up the channel?
16:27.38DrodoEmpireNo idea
16:27.43DrodoEmpireSounds awful silly to me
16:27.47Technobliteratorbecause it's useless and unnecessary
16:27.50Tek0516Agreed
16:27.51Essayrios...Fuck yes I forgot about Jo
16:28.03Technobliteratorwhat about me? :|
16:28.07PandaAwayI think it has something to  do with off-topic posts distracting people from on-topic posts
16:28.08WormyI'm not ssying that
16:28.12EssayriosNow, what should I do to throw her off direction
16:28.34Technobliteratoroff topic posts distracting people from on topic posts? I don't see what the problem is?
16:28.44dromEssayrios: Put Dota2 on a stick and wave it infront her.
16:28.48WormyI'm saying, if users feel their stuff is neglected, they guilt trip evewryone to join a sub channel for gratification.
16:28.50Technobliterator-__-
16:29.00Technobliteratoroh
16:29.05Technobliteratorthat's fine
16:29.07EssayriosTo calm things down duh
16:29.15Monet_So far if a user isn't super-famous then they almost have to beg for someone to look and respond ot their work
16:29.30WormyEven super-famous users feel the same thing
16:29.33DrodoEmpireIts just a matter of priorities; People should look at on-topic stuff first, and people posting on-topic should do so in quieter lulls of activity
16:29.36WormyCome on
16:29.45DrodoEmpireThat's how I see it
16:29.50HachimanOh shoot people for not being interested
16:29.53HachimanWhen you walk into a library do you just read every book on the shelf
16:30.00WormyOluap, Jo, me and Cyrannian I recall have complained of this issue,
16:30.08DrodoEmpireThat's not the issue Hachi
16:30.12AdmiralPandaDrodoEmpire: just from personal experience, posting in luls doesn't tend to get interest
16:30.31Technobliteratorthe subchannel idea Wormy is suggesting is absolutely fine
16:30.38Technobliteratorif I know what to call it I can register it
16:30.51WormyIt is Cyrannian's genius really.
16:31.02DrodoEmpireThe point is this is a serious problem for people like me; Not everyone gets the sort of responses they intended, and that leads to poorer quality fiction and the person feeling neglected
16:31.02Technobliteratorthen, Cyrannian's idea
16:31.16DrodoEmpire(directed to Hachi
16:31.22Technobliteratorjust make it #sporewiki-[name here] and then we'll own it, otherwise it'll be unrelated to the wiki, either one is fine
16:31.46Monet_Hachi: We're not asking you to read every book on the shelf, just the stuff that comes up in the collection of "Newest choice works"
16:32.04WormyTBH, if nobody actually reads my stuff
16:32.14WormyI won't bother wasting my time with it
16:33.03WormyI think I'm going to cut out most of my planned fiction except for Gigaquadrant Conflicts (and Halcyon), and DCP-Vermulan war
16:33.23WormyI get too few people reading my other stuff now
16:33.25CyrannianI think setting up a channel devoted to fiction feedback is a good idea. However, by setting it up, that doesn't mean that people can't continue to post things here.
16:33.50Technobliteratorthe only issue I see with that is that the subchannel mightn't get too much attention
16:33.54HachimanEssayrios: https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1609833_287209411444730_482265947747506828_n.png
16:34.01AdmiralPandaWormy: I get your feelings. I just have a different problem
16:34.13WormyI enjoy writing them, but I also enjoy writing DCP-Vermulan war.  If I can focus on that, I can make it more amazing.
16:34.33EssayriosHachiman: ohgod
16:35.25AdmiralPandayou know it's kinda funny, for years now my dream has been being involved in one of these big multi-user RP fictions, but now I'm not even sure if that's worth it
16:35.42EssayriosNow that "I kissed a girl" is in my head
16:35.54WormyI might just give up with fiction actually.  I'm a spontaneous writer these days, I write when I feel like writing.  But it isn't working.
16:35.58AdmiralPandamy last couple of attempts to join stories like that have flopped completely, and I've had fun with smaller fictions
16:35.59EssayriosI really want to make a character based on this song
16:36.27dromAdmiralPanda: I share same pains as you, even though the fact that I already did 1 and is currently working on two.
16:36.27AdmiralPandaWormy: It's a shame to hear that given the work you've done and the plans we had, but do what you think is best.
16:36.51WormyI'll create one more fiction to wrap all my plots, but in past-tense, so when you read, its already happened.
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16:37.09EssayriosNot Javina. With Javina, it's genuine love and devotion coupled with tons of angstm
16:37.10Zmr56Right, so I've made you guys a human template for you to outfit like a ken doll and whatnot
16:37.14dromnutcracks Zmr56's already cracked nuts
16:37.14GhelWormy: Just consider how much fiction I write, and I'm still here.
16:37.20Ghel~give Zmr56 a cookie
16:37.21infobotACTION gives Zmr56 a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up.
16:37.28Zmr56omnomnom
16:37.30EssayriosNot "hey why not"
16:37.41HachimanEssayrios: Kalcedia hur
16:37.51EssayriosHue
16:38.04AdmiralPandadammit we still have to get Kalcedia and Sor in a room together
16:38.20dromAnd say Monet to paint it
16:38.22drompay*
16:38.26AdmiralPandathe whore and the pansexual
16:39.03Monet_I'm in a similar boat to Panda and Wormy, but for different reasons.
16:39.05CyrannianI'll set up these channels now. What topic based on information from these blogs do you feel we should discuss first? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Wormulon/The_2014_kick_everyone_up_the_backside_blog http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Monet47/A_Few_Concerns
16:39.26Technobliteratorcna't we use our admin channel?
16:39.35Technobliteratoralso I had a blog too :(
16:39.55AdmiralPandanot to be rude but yours was a bit bitchy :/
16:40.05AdmiralPandamoreso than necessary
16:40.15WormyGhel:  I don't plan on leaving the wiki
16:40.22CyrannianThis is for everyone who is interested in resolving the issues, not just admins.
16:40.32Zmr56dat cuz Techno is assy woman neva making dem sandviches
16:40.38Zmr56*sassy
16:40.43EssayriosNow that I listened to Katy Perry for the thousandth time
16:40.48dromZmr56: Ssssch, she can hear you.
16:40.51EssayriosI imagine Kalcedia kissing Venoriel for some rrason
16:41.31dromCyrannian: I'm interested. Because I love to partake and work in a group.
16:41.32AdmiralPandaheh I would probably imagine Sor and Kalcedia, well,
16:41.56WormyI'm just not sure if I can keep up with SporeWiki plot sagas
16:42.04CyrannianI think the most pressing issue is the upsurge in arguments lately.
16:42.05Zmr56Exactly what are we talking about? Since I just joined.
16:42.09AdmiralPandaon a completely unrelated note I want to join a fiction not make one; it's the same problem with D&D I want to play not DM
16:42.28EssayriosHachiman: BTW that kissing picture made me feel warm for some reason
16:42.52AdmiralPandamaking Profane Rebirth has been great and rewarding but I want to join as a participant not have to create my own
16:43.03EssayriosBTW I don't get where the girls I am from
16:43.07EssayriosAdmiralPanda: Hm.
16:43.19EssayriosTry joining one of my fics
16:44.05EssayriosYes, egotistic Imperios is egotistic
16:45.11AdmiralPandaand now we reach the other problem; either I don't know fictions exist, or they've already started by the time I do
16:45.35Cyrannian#SporeWikiResolution-Arguments - Those interested can discuss potential solutions here.
16:45.39EssayriosThere is a Fantasy story you could in theory join
16:45.41dromEssayrios: I searched for it, but I found it infected by Technobot.
16:46.17Angrybirds_Hachiman : Completely off topic, but how do you want to cement the Dnalbic-Morcian alliance?
16:46.21dromHere's the comparasion if you want the lulz. http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Fiction%3AProfane_Rebirth&diff=597906&oldid=593776
16:46.37HachimanAngrybirds_: How'd you mean?
16:46.52EssayriosHachiman: Where are the kissing girls from BTW
16:46.54AdmiralPandawhich fantasyverse story is this?
16:46.57Angrybirds_Most alliances at the time were cemented with political marriages.
16:47.05HachimanOh
16:47.22HachimanYeah there could be Dnalbic-Morcian marriages
16:47.36HachimanAnd perhaps Morcia uses Dnalba for grenadier stock
16:47.51Angrybirds_That would work out magnificiently.
16:48.35Angrybirds_Does the Dnalbic royal house have any eligible women?
16:49.43HachimanWell there is no real "royal house" - the title of "king" is only really temporary and royalty is dissolved when a king is no longer necessary, going back to a noble republican state
16:49.46HachimanHowever the daughters of a Thane could be an equivalent
16:50.37HachimanClan McAlister would be a prime choice for choosing a wife from, their bloodline has had a few kings ascend and lead Dnalba in the past
16:51.41Angrybirds_That could work. Here's the ruling branch of House Murray, plus or minus a few members and children: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Charles_Family_Tree.png
16:51.50EssayriosMcAlister
16:52.00EssayriosSteampunk Opera yay
16:55.39Angrybirds_Hachiman : Would you mind marrying her to Charles' younger brother, Wellan?
16:55.50HachimanSure
16:56.34EssayriosDam u
16:56.49EssayriosY u make cool stuff while I have to make essays and prepare for exams
16:57.11HachimanMorven, Daughter of Blair, of Clan McAlister
16:57.42EssayriosI'll make a Mongol-esque faction that'd keep the eastern lands in fear
16:58.08HachimanI am making an oriental-esque faction that's basically an earlier Meiji Empire
16:58.16EssayriosFuken weeaboo
16:58.21HachimanFighting with native warlords and such in an effort to unify their land
16:58.38HachimanWith Western influences having inspired them to do so
16:58.49EssayriosI'll just make a Joseon Dynasty and/or Manchu Empire expy to antagonise dem weeaboos hur
16:59.22HachimanThey're gonne be located in the far Northeastern part of Europe, on that peninsula in the far east
16:59.34HachimanSo I've effectively relocated Japan hur
16:59.38EssayriosActually
17:00.02EssayriosI'll make an Aztec-ish/Zulu-ish empire, except industrialised
17:00.08EssayriosWell
17:00.12EssayriosJust more advanced
17:00.18HachimanI was gonna make an advanced Egyptian empire
17:00.36EssayriosWell u dun goofd
17:01.03HachimanAnd zealous Romanian militants who'd keep the much larger pseudo-Russia on their toes
17:01.09dino@Hachi: OIh? Egyptian?? Nice! With references to Ra, Anubis Isis and such
17:01.11dino?
17:01.33EssayriosActually advanced Zulus is a genuinely interesting idea
17:02.03HachimanIt's unlikely though, the Zulus in this setting are yet to be discovered
17:02.11HachimanAlthough when they are it could happen
17:02.15Angrybirds_Hachiman : I'll add her to the tree. Is there anything I should know about her?
17:03.44HachimanAngrybirds_: Eldest daughter of the current Dnalbic King Blair at age 25, she's a strong and somewhat overwhelming woman whose also pretty stubborn and fierce
17:03.57EssayriosHey, why should our Zulus be discovered
17:04.01EssayriosAnd not vice versa
17:05.52EssayriosMaybe they estabilished contact with NotEurope earlier and became part of its civilisation
17:09.12DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Brave_New_World_Universe/Warfare - Added two new sections, they should help in actually organizing your army for at a glance info
17:09.34EssayriosSo what do you think guys
17:11.29DrodoEmpireIt could happen
17:11.55DrodoEmpireIf they had good shipbuilding or carved out a giant empire, and then learnt about the West through trade
17:12.10Monet_DrodoEmpire: I read somewhere that the optimum ration of military-to-civillian personnel is 1-in10.
17:12.18Angrybirds_Salivate over Morcia's Dnalbic Grenadiers  :D http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421171137/spore/images/6/69/Morcian_Dnalbic_Grenadiers.png
17:12.21Monet_ratio*
17:12.40Monet_Although this might be more for modern militaries
17:12.41DrodoEmpireHuh. Interesting
17:12.47DrodoEmpireSounds like a lot of troops
17:13.23Angrybirds_Gaiz, what do you think?
17:13.30DrodoEmpireAwesome. :D
17:13.45DrodoEmpireAre they units from the base game or added in Darthmod?
17:14.10DrodoEmpireI find that realistically speaking the ratio is a lot smaller though; China has the world's largest military at something around two million personell out of a population of something like two billion; That's more like a hundreth. :P
17:15.06Monet_Hmm, true
17:15.25Monet_Just checked the Bitish armed Forces' number of active personnel
17:16.09DrodoEmpireHm?
17:16.10Angrybirds_Darthmod.
17:16.24DrodoEmpireAh
17:16.48Monet_381,000 active and reserve personnel for a population of around 63-64 million
17:17.49Monet_No wait...
17:17.57EssayriosGreater Kingdom of jiKwanadu
17:18.00EssayriosHow does that sound
17:18.18DrodoEmpireSounds pretty good
17:18.39Monet_I think around 1-in-10 is the upper limit of active and reserve personnel before the military starts buckling due to logistics issues
17:18.50DrodoEmpireAlso, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ACaddawaki_Tribe - Native peeps
17:19.05DrodoEmpireMonet: Yeah, sounds about right
17:19.43Cyrannianhttp://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-04/enhanced/webdr02/17/12/original-8872-1397753386-12.jpg - A map of British and Irish stereotypes.
17:20.41EssayriosCyrannian: BTW wanted to ask
17:20.46Monet_Shame I was born around the area labelled "Clarkson"
17:21.11dromAngrybirds_: I got some candy
17:21.14DrodoEmpireCyrannian: hur
17:21.56Monet_"shit cats"
17:22.06Essayrios<PROTECTED>
17:22.10EssayriosDoes that offend you hur
17:22.40Monet_Cyrannian: THat's cheered me right up
17:22.58CyrannianLooks like a leprechaun :P
17:23.04Essayrioshur
17:23.16CyrannianI live in the area marked "The Corrs"
17:23.19EssayriosThat was kinda the point
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17:24.06HachimanHai again
17:24.10DrodoEmpireHello
17:24.17DrodoEmpire:3
17:25.20EssayriosHachiman: What if it weren't the NotZulu that were found by NotEurope but rather NotEurope that was found by NotZulu
17:25.27EssayriosLike, they migrated north
17:25.58HachimanYou might have to take that up with Angrybirds/Clanden
17:26.27Angrybirds_Hachiman.
17:26.37HachimanHm?
17:26.45Angrybirds_Morcian Dnalbic Grenadiers: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421171137/spore/images/6/69/Morcian_Dnalbic_Grenadiers.png
17:26.53Angrybirds_SALIVATE.
17:26.59HachimanAww yiss
17:29.53EssayriosSo Angrybirds_
17:29.59EssayriosYou okay with my idea?
17:30.21Angrybirds_They could have migrated into northern Africa, though they'd still be reasonably within their tech group.
17:30.44EssayriosHey this universe does not have to obey normal history
17:31.07EssayriosThey could serve as notEurope's equivalent of the Mongol invaders
17:32.31Angrybirds_I thought we already had mongols, though?
17:33.02Angrybirds_It could work, though you'd be pestering Zmr's empire first. LD
17:33.04Angrybirds_xD
17:33.23EssayriosRite
17:35.45EssayriosDon't worry you'll have your black slaves later
17:37.13Angrybirds_drom : What would relations between your empire and the rest of the world look like? ^.^
17:37.37Angrybirds_Essayrios : That could work.
17:37.57dromWell. 1/3 being in war.
17:38.21Angrybirds_Added: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140420052120/spore/images/f/fa/Old_World_3.png
17:39.38Angrybirds_They have very rich supplies of iron and timber which they could harness.
17:42.01dromAngrybirds_: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421173726/spore/images/0/0f/Old_World_5.png
17:43.06Angrybirds_Yeah, that's a mistake.
17:43.32drombummer
17:44.25Angrybirds_drom : Would you be willing to trade some of that iron for surplus grain? ^.^
17:44.30EssayriosCould I have that space in the east of NotEurope for muh notZulu
17:45.14Angrybirds_Below the brown?
17:45.15dromAngrybirds_: Wait if you wait, so I can use the iron to transport lead for surplus grain? *grainy laughter*
17:45.28EssayriosYeah
17:45.41Angrybirds_How did they get there? (legitimate question)
17:45.51Essayriosmigrations, duh
17:46.01EssayriosThey were supposed to have migrated a lot
17:47.15dromHeh, cannonballs for grain instead of iron.
17:47.31Angrybirds_Hm. That might be a bit far from the BNW South Africa.
17:47.48EssayriosWhy South Africa?
17:47.49Angrybirds_When did they get there?
17:47.51EssayriosThey have Zulu cukture
17:47.54EssayriosNot geography
17:48.01EssayriosAround the NotMiddle Ages
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17:48.21Angrybirds_Where are they from, then? The culture distribution is about the same.
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17:49.10WormyI had a feat of adrenaline/hysterical strength and really twisted by back in the process
17:49.59WormyThis stupid dog owner's aggressive pitbull thing came out rushing at my dog
17:49.59dromAngrybirds_: Well. For real, I guess they can give iron for a supplyment of surplus grain.
17:50.18WormySo I grabbed my dog and hoisted it up a wall very quickly
17:50.39dromWormy: I used to have a dog, he liked to mess up my neighbors' dogs.
17:50.42WormyAnd the horrible pitbull thing was trying to jump up my back until the owner grabbed
17:51.05CyrannianWhat breed of dog do you have?
17:51.15WormyThen I realised I had reacted so quickly, my back was hurting and clicking
17:51.53WormyBorder collie cross jack russel, a "border jack".  He's actually a very strong dog but I still don't want a pitbull on him
17:51.58EssayriosAngrybirds_: NotCentral Africa perhaps?
17:52.07dromI'm afraid of dogs coming of a breed of giants.
17:52.19WormyI really hate dog owners who don't control their obviously aggressive animals
17:52.27TekDroidI once got cornered when the neighbour's put bull got loose.
17:52.32TekDroid*pitbull
17:52.44Angrybirds_Essayrios : Alright. Maybe they could have arrived earlier, sometime during the Dark Ages when Europe wasn't so heavily fortified? Expect crusades and racial wars, though.
17:52.50Angrybirds_Which could be fun and interesting.
17:53.01TekDroidLuckily that corner was our front door. We callee the police
17:53.38dromLet's see. My neighbour who recently moved out used to have two german shepards. Both big but very friendly.
17:53.56WormyMy dog has survived all sorts btw, a slipped disc (he was nearly put down), a bader attack and attacks by other dogs
17:54.03dromAnd the other neighbour used to have a white pitbull coming from a big breed.
17:54.12WormyBut he's getting old now
17:54.18EssayriosAngrybirds_: Exactly
17:54.23TekDroidOur neighbours practically encouraged their pitbull's aggressiveness.
17:54.42WormyI hate watching my dog age
17:54.57dromI don't see any dogs in my neighborhood anymore.
17:55.05Angrybirds_Monet: Stumbled upon a unit which fits your national colors perfectly: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421175434/spore/images/6/66/Wescolian_Line_Infantry.png
17:55.08dromThat sucks.
17:55.38Wormy<PROTECTED>
17:55.48Monet#SporeWikiResolution-Arguments if anyone else is interested in coming to settle matters
17:56.23Wormy<PROTECTED>
17:56.45TekDroidMy aunt's dog swallowed a sock and technically died.
17:57.05CyrannianVery cute
17:57.07DrodoEmpire"technically"?
17:57.11EssayriosRight
17:57.16EssayriosImma eat some rabbits
17:57.28EssayriosThen go back to making essays
17:57.48HachimanEat my dick
17:57.55MonetAngrybirds: I like that combination
17:57.55WormyOne is super smart and even talks to me
17:58.06WormyThe other, not bright at all
17:58.15Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31.0-8/964045_10152205717718413_126954378_o.jpg My two dogs, both staffs
17:58.20TekDroidDrodoEmpire: Died, but they revived it
17:58.24HachimanThe black and white one is crossed with a Jack Russell
17:58.27EssayriosHachiman: Chopped off and rrrroasted!
17:58.34EssayriosI had a dalmatian once
17:58.47dromI used to have a dog. He was put out few years ago.
17:58.53dromHard times.
17:59.19WormyThe border jack has a crazy jackal and hyde character due to the mix of two determined, smart breeds with completely opposite personalities
17:59.47WormyThe whippet is a whole other animal altoigether in comparison
18:00.11WormyI know how it feels
18:00.19WormyMy first dog was very nearly put down
18:00.31Wormybut he made it luckily
18:00.57dromHe was nearly old as me when he was put down anyway.
18:01.05Wormygood life then
18:01.18dromHe was put down because he bit my mother in the wrist.
18:01.39WormyWas he starting to lose his mind?
18:01.48CyrannianMy dogs: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIjwMF-CUAI3kfc.jpg - Coco https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQOARQnCIAAry6C.jpg - Lincoln https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjmPuJcIMAEC1RS.jpg - Lola
18:01.57dromWho knows. Older dogs don't last pretty long.
18:02.12WormyYeah I watched a nighbor's dog lose its marbles
18:02.19DrodoEmpireI have an English Bulldog. :P
18:02.55WormyI like most dog breeds, but I'm nervous of pitbulls, staffies and rottweilers
18:03.06EssayriosMy dog was called James Bond
18:03.11EssayriosAnd it was a dalmatian
18:03.11WormyIn fact as I said, my dog was just attacked by one
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18:03.55WormyOf course, I always blame the owner for not keeping their dog in control
18:03.58EssayriosHeil
18:04.15dromWell. My mother described that my dog, which was a male. He first growled and stood pretty stale. Then I don't remember anymore than that he bit my mother. I saw him, he had blood everywhere in his mouth. Hell.
18:05.16dromGood thing it didn't last that long, so we could safely drive him to nearest vet to search him and then put him down.
18:05.20EssayriosMy dog was basically me
18:05.31EssayriosLazy as hell and a bit weird
18:05.35Technobliteratorwhy do we still have Special:Chat?
18:07.31OluapPlayerbecause ya moms dum
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18:13.58Angrybirds_Essayrios : Feel free to add the Zulu kingdom/empire to the blog We can discuss the resources and extent of your territory whenever it's convenient for you.
18:16.38EssayriosSoon
18:16.40EssayriosNot now
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18:19.12Zmr_FoodWhat didda miss?
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18:21.48DrodoEmpireBack
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18:23.44Zmr56"It could work, though you'd be pestering Zmr's empire first." What do I have to do with Mongols? I had agnostic Ottomans.
18:24.00Zmr56Don't see why it would pester me.
18:33.27dinobye
18:33.30dinoperhaps be bac later on
18:33.32dinosee ya
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18:37.58HachimanSave a lollipop - suck a dick
18:40.52EssayriosHi
18:40.58OluapPlayerAw dino left
18:41.11OluapPlayerI wanted to tell him how awesome the Ho-Oh he made looks hur
18:41.12Essayrioscorrection
18:41.18Essayriosdino left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:41.49Hachiman:DDDDDD
18:42.00OluapPlayerhur
18:42.24WormyI could do with more people like dino in my life
18:42.44OluapPlayerImagine if everyone in the world was like dino
18:42.51OluapPlayerFirst of all, Xho would commit sepukku
18:43.07WormyBetter than full of miserable cod faces
18:43.17CyrannianThere would be world peace.
18:43.23EssayriosCorrection: sepukku!!!!!!!!! :DDDDDD
18:43.33OluapPlayerhttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421184211/spore/images/7/75/Circe.png updated his gorgeous thing
18:43.52Zmr56Oh god no
18:43.56EssayriosMichael Jackson'd
18:44.02Zmr56Abomination
18:44.20EssayriosHm
18:44.31EssayriosI wonder if any of my characters would ever have kids
18:44.44EssayriosI mean imagine Latar as a mother
18:44.46OluapPlayerNo hur
18:44.59HachimanImp you make all of your women lesbians
18:44.59EssayriosOkay
18:45.00HachimanSo no hur
18:45.12EssayriosWell
18:45.52Zmr56“26 million people in Europe are looking for work. And whose jobs are they after?” dum UKIP
18:46.04EssayriosIf Javina ever acquires a place in high society (which is possible)
18:46.27EssayriosShe will probably lay down and think of England once or twice just to make an heir for house Desertsun
18:47.52EssayriosActually
18:47.58EssayriosImagine Javina as a mother hur
18:48.09HachimanJavina - abort.swf
18:48.12Essayrios"Mom I am dating an elf"
18:48.27EssayriosBetter yet
18:48.32Essayrios"Mom I am dating Circe"
18:48.54OluapPlayerClothovera - stay away from those nazis circe              Circe - but mom
18:49.42EssayriosOhgod I can actually imagine it now hur
18:49.55HachimanIt could happen if the Empire and Sovereign end up becoming a hybrid society
18:50.13OluapPlayerIt can't because Clothovera wouldn't allow it hur
18:50.14HachimanWhich could happen in 100 years to 10,000 years from now
18:50.37DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Belgica - Added flag
18:54.57EssayriosAll of my characters have fucked up love lifes hur
18:55.08EssayriosIn the Fantasyverse at least
18:55.42EssayriosOne has had his girlfriend stolen from him, the other is a lesbian, the third is a nerd, the fourth is crazy
18:59.31CyrannianOkay, we have agreed (#SporeWikiResolution-Arguments ) that if a group of users wants to create a galaxy, they are able to. However, they must explain how it survived the Annihilation as well as an assurance that it will be used in fiction. Then, it is up to the community on whether or not this new galaxy is accepted.
18:59.54OluapPlayerThat's fair enough
19:00.42CyrannianIt's also recommended that it is free-for-all like the Milky Way.
19:01.46Zmr56I is of dealing withs that
19:02.00Zmr56In perfect english I agree
19:02.44HachimanSounds good to me
19:02.48Wormylol http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AreTheseWiresImportant
19:03.25WormyIt has to be a group of users, I shall emphasize
19:04.12WormyIt is less likely to be forgotten and will increase diversity, rather than the old problem of one fiction per galaxy.
19:05.21Hachimanhttp://www.iflscience.com/technology/using-3d-printers-generate-villages-houses
19:11.22Zmr56Angrybirds: Could you put up a key for which colour our nations are?
19:13.52Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1912107_858295070850686_3757627119840363642_n.jpg
19:13.56drom|tf2Zmr56: I talked with him a while ago, so I suppose that he's currently working on them.
19:14.20Zmr56Hachi: heh
19:15.17OluapPlayerolol
19:24.15drom|tf2If you try to translate mercenaries to swedish, you will get. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9b8JiOMgl_g/TxRp38G7PCI/AAAAAAAAAJw/gJno_8xCRBo/s1600/legosoldat.png
19:25.04Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1010227_258920324232002_7857622194181982714_n.jpg
19:25.05drom|tf2And have bunnies. http://imgur.com/gallery/yEYY6
19:25.10OluapPlayerhttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421192450/spore/images/9/91/Zagdala_Breek.png super friendly lizard
19:26.55drom|tf2http://imgur.com/gallery/PMzUyQe
19:27.42HachimanZagdala looks amazing
19:28.24OluapPlayerZagdala - was deemun befor it was cool
19:35.04TekDroid~test
19:35.04infobotmethinks test is not funny
19:42.48TekDroidApparently it's hard to not leave my old video games lying around out of their cases. -.-
19:43.21TekDroidAnd the day before I'd sorted the shelves so it's not like the case was hard to find. -.-
19:44.40DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Belgica#Colonial_Possessions - Added a Colonial Possessions section
19:45.03GhelHello.
19:45.08TekDroidHello
19:45.50DrodoEmpireHey
19:48.31Cyrannian#SporeWikiResolution-Arguments - We need more people here. We are discussing a very important issue.
19:48.46MonetVery very important
19:49.44TekDroidI'll join
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20:19.51XhoOh wow I'm looking at the chat from like 4 hours ago
20:19.59XhoGlad I wasn't there hur
20:21.45Xhokicks OluapPlayer
20:22.48OluapPlayerasdfsdag
20:22.48OluapPlayerwat
20:22.51Xhohai u fuk
20:22.59OluapPlayerspu
20:23.12Xhoy no one speek
20:24.13Technobliteratorcuz ur dum
20:24.13OluapPlayerEveryone is discussing stuff elsewhere
20:24.38Xhowat dat
20:24.40Zmr56"Morcia's army is among the strongest on the continent, fielding a standing force of roughly 69,000 strong." hon hon 69,000 eh
20:24.52OluapPlayerdym
20:24.57OluapPlayerdum even
20:25.06XhoSo what are they discussing and where
20:25.28OluapPlayerThey're discussing overpowerness at #SporeWikiResolution-Arguments
20:25.32OluapPlayerand other things
20:26.30Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/arp9ODK_460s_v1.jpg
20:31.02OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1398107784407.png METAL GEAR
20:31.22Technobliterator:D
20:31.24Technobliteratorahahahaah
20:31.36Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aXbQxRV_460s.jpg
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20:32.13Zmr56Linda got big boobs
20:33.26AngrydroidI was thinking that the largest navies in BNW! would have about a dozen large ships, meaning we could name each of them individually.
20:34.41dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/PltY0Fv
20:34.46AngrydroidMorcia has, like, two by the beginning of 1700.
20:37.17XhoWow I misread 'Morcia' as 'Murica'
20:37.18XhoMy bad
20:37.38Zmr56MORICA!
20:37.48TekDroid*Morcia
20:37.52OluapPlayerolol
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20:38.30Hachimanhai Tyb
20:39.00Tybusenhai Hach
20:39.09GhelHello.
20:40.03TybusenHello
20:40.36Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/xSsSvEe.jpg
20:41.19Zmr56ur the tracta ya mom is da tree
20:42.02dromtractors and trees doesn't go well as partners
20:42.26Zmr56drom knows this because of family experience
20:42.35Zmr56hon
20:47.52dromcurcifixes Zmr56
20:48.59Zmr56lul cuz I'm over here, that's not the real Zmr56
20:49.08Zmr56I NEVER DIED FOR OUR SINS
20:49.49dromI gotta need a tactial curcifixation missile.
20:50.18drom*ka-curcifix!*
20:50.32dromHah, you and all your clones are curcifixed, Zmr56.
20:51.07Zmr56nvm, I die dis time
20:51.21Zmr56BUT I COME BACK ON 420 TO GET HIGH FOR OUR SINS
20:51.46Zmr56Next year I mean
20:51.53Zmr56Just you wait and see
20:52.24dromI shall find your cloning facilites before you can return.
20:53.57Zmr56These aren't cloning facilities, just some hippies who wannabes
20:54.16dromhttp://i.imgur.com/CyLddVt.jpg
20:54.27dromcheckmate Zmr56
20:54.52Zmr56Noh, I flip over the board
20:55.03Zmr56hao bout doll house
20:55.36dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/thYK85M
20:55.41dromNo, earth has stopped.
20:56.51Zmr56I think they'll release a bug patch soon
20:57.06Zmr56You have to admit, this a pretty realistic MMO
20:57.43TekDroidSporewiki?
20:58.53dromNo, this real life being a MMO
20:59.00dromThe story is shit though.
20:59.03dromAnd boring too.
20:59.27Zmr56That's because of your faction
20:59.45Zmr56The UK has the best plotlines
20:59.54dromThe graphics are the best here though.
21:00.10dromAnd gameplay factors are alot better here.
21:00.15Zmr56Sure Sweden had the Viking Campaign but with all the new expansion packs it's gone dull latley
21:00.19dromBut the world is maybe too big.
21:00.33dromI'm waiting for that UK is gonna be dull soon.
21:01.09dromSo we can start a community campaign, so we can bomb and conquer Denmark, and UK
21:01.14dromAnd free Scotland
21:01.15Zmr56Although there's this annoying bug called UKIP which is being exploited by players
21:01.16TybusenThey haven't released any updates for the US for a while now
21:01.40TybusenYou'd think the guys who are in charge of developing for the US would be more efficient at their jobs, but no
21:01.47Zmr56US is great for Mexican players because they can cross faction
21:02.25Zmr56Although US players can be pretty elitist to the Mexican players but that's because Mexico has the worst starting gear
21:02.27TekDroidCanada's pretty awesome, though they don't do much. Their lead characters kimda suck too.
21:02.44dromHachiman: I got advices for Kalcedia. http://imgur.com/gallery/NEHRT
21:03.54dromI gotta go and sleep. See ya.
21:04.32Zmr56lets jump in bed with drom
21:04.38Zmr56bot ghey cuz drom is woman
21:04.41Zmr56*not
21:04.43WormyTybusen #SporeWikiResolution-Arguments
21:04.48Wormyif you are interested
21:04.59Wormythat is where we all are
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21:42.14Firebaranyone here?
21:42.20GhelHello.
21:42.24Firebarhi
21:42.40TekDroidHello
21:42.52Firebarhey
21:44.01Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Territories#Borealis everyone note the final paragraph of this entry
21:45.21Firebarwhat about it?
21:45.55HachimanMonet went "game over" about Borealis
21:46.15TekDroidgtg
21:46.20Zmr_Awaybye
21:46.20Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/azboM2p_460s.jpg
21:46.33Firebarbye
21:46.40HachimanHe decided to have his fiction leave the galaxy without so much as a "gg"
21:46.59Firebarkind of abrupt but it's his decision
21:47.57Zmr_AwayJepardi: heh
21:48.22WormyHello Firebar, hope I didn't scare you last night.  Not that I think I did.
21:48.55MonetMy stuff doesn't fit there anyway
21:49.11Firebarits fine
21:49.13MonetAnd yes I know how childish that comment sounds
21:49.58Wormy"Nanomachine swarms swept up any trace of Imperial settlement and any provincial species that had joined under its banner"
21:50.09WormyIt is not clear if they died horribly.
21:50.27GhelIf you think it will improve your fiction, then it's fine. By definition, making fiction better is a good thing.
21:50.43MonetWormy: Right I should reword that a little
21:50.50Firebarit's your decision to make
21:50.55GhelI'm going to go now. Bye!
21:50.59Firebarbye
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21:51.41MonetSequence of events was Viceroy died -> Grand Senate debated -> Evacuation called -> province planets & DI cities teleported to Andromeda -> nanoswarms sweep up any remaining traces of settlement
21:52.04Firebari'm currently remaking the Xi'rel before i make the article
21:52.14Firebari got some suggestions from a friend
21:52.47Technobliteratorxaltsa destroys their planets after and laughs
21:53.45MonetHis fun I guess
21:54.33XhoKithworto - now wat in da fuk was dat in aid of
21:55.06MonetEstimated casualties by Xaltsa: 0 sapients
21:55.32XhoKithworto - exactly my fukin point
21:56.34TechnobliteratorXaltsa - lol i dun care blowing stuff up is fun
21:57.33MonetI could have gone one step further and made it so all Xaltsa was doing was blowing up giant versions of Mercury
22:00.53HachimanI do wonder what would come out of creating a new galaxy and how one would explain it surviving the Annihilation
22:01.27HachimanI'm not disputing it, but it's just a curious idea
22:03.09HachimanAs well as how one would explain how it remained undiscovered by the rest of the Gigaquadrant for so long
22:03.33MonetActually I have another idea for what the Imperium could have done.
22:03.48Zmr_AwayGalaxy Whatever is the galaxy everyone forgets to talk about in the Annihilation so it survived all along just no one bothered to write it down. There we go done.
22:03.54MonetBut this is more "me"; detonated a Hyperpsace explosive that renders their territory untraversable via FTl
22:05.23MonetOh wait its Borealis.
22:05.38HachimanHell
22:05.39MonetEveryone can jsut use Taldar tech to reverse all the damage
22:05.40Hachimanwoops
22:05.44HachimanI like to think that if a galaxy suddenly appeared outta nowhere it could perhaps have been saved from a Scourge in another universe/timeline/reality by one of the precursor races like Taldar or Vi'Navitum
22:05.46HachimanHell they could have saved perhaps the future Milkdromeda
22:07.30Angrybirds_Hachiman : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kingdom_of_Morcia#Military Just added your grenadiers :D
22:08.07Hachimanaww yiss
22:08.15Firebarim back!
22:08.31Firebarthe Xi'Rel now look alot better
22:09.00Angrybirds_Hachiman : Do you think the description is fair?
22:09.05HachimanAye I do
22:09.10MonetOkay that's it...I think i've gone off the dep end now
22:10.00Firebarby wiping your colonies in Borealis clean with nanotech?
22:10.11TekDroidBack
22:10.25MonetYou weren't there for the conversation that drove me to it
22:10.50Firebarok
22:11.12Zmr56Since we have the Milky Way would we have the name Cheese Way ?
22:11.26Zmr56Milk - Dairy Cheese - Dairy
22:11.29Firebarthe Watery Way?
22:11.36Zmr56Or Dairy Way
22:16.03WormyWhy I call it the Plazith Rim
22:16.52Angrybirds_Monet : When you have the time, want to discuss BNW! stuff?
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22:17.30Angrybirds_In fact, really anyone who wants to join can. We have our first few historical events coming up.
22:17.39Wormyhi
22:17.43Firebari'd be happy to join
22:17.55Angrybirds_Liquid_Ink: added your colonies http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140420052120/spore/images/f/fa/Old_World_3.png
22:18.20Angrybirds_Firebar : You'd have to create a Brave New World fiction, which you can absolutely do :D http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog%3AThe_Clanden/Brave_New_World
22:18.26Liquid_InkYey
22:21.41Firebarsure
22:23.05MonetAngrybirds_: Ehh not really feeling so great tonight
22:23.23Firebari was thinking about making an imperial russia style empire
22:23.32Angrybirds_Monet: Alright, no problem. :)
22:24.00Angrybirds_Firebar : That'd be fun. If you'd be willing to commit to it, we could make it rather big.
22:24.15FirebarI'm fine with it
22:24.20Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Cyrannian_War/Year_One#New_Republic_Retaliation - Take a look. I'll finish it tomorrow.
22:26.24OluapPlayerAw snap
22:26.36OluapPlayerRepublic joins the fray
22:26.51Firebarcool
22:27.25CyrannianApaltar seeks to invade the Regellis, thus gaining control over their famed hat-making industry.
22:27.53TekDroidLol
22:28.14OluapPlayerRegellis needs to be teached a lesson honestly
22:28.25Angrybirds_A few characters in Morcia's ruling family: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kingdom_of_Morcia#Individuals
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22:29.20Firebarso, i now have a more complete idea for my BNW empire
22:29.38Angrybirds_Let's hear it.
22:29.48Technobliteratorokaii time's up
22:29.51Technobliteratorbyes
22:29.56HachimanCya bitch
22:30.34OluapPlayerbai
22:30.38CyrannianBai bai
22:30.47Firebarbye
22:30.56Liquid_InkSo long!
22:31.21Firebarso my idea is a combination of the swedish empire and imperial russia
22:32.24Liquid_InkAwesome
22:32.30Firebarthey are located in the northern regions of the map and are more interested in trade than war but still maintain a powerful navy
22:34.47Firebari'm calling them the Anesev Sovereignty
22:35.41Firebarmonarchist government with a parliment to keep the tsars power in check
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22:36.53TekDroidFirebar: so basically a constitutional monarchy?
22:37.13Firebaryeah i couldn't remember what it was called though
22:38.06Angrybirds_[[File:Old World 5.png
22:38.09Angrybirds_[[File:Old World 5.png]]
22:38.12CyrannianI have a story coming up involving the Saurornithanta, which I haven't used at all before.
22:38.14Angrybirds_dum infobot
22:38.16TekDroidThe main constitutional monarchy in history is England, IIRC, so if you need inspiration it's a good source.
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22:38.41Firebarthanks i'll check it out
22:38.49Angrybirds_Added labels: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421223653/spore/images/0/0f/Old_World_5.png
22:39.05OluapPlayerIt's always good seeing little used races in action
22:39.18TekDroidI can also give you some brief knowledge of England over the past few centuries if you need.
22:39.43Firebarsure
22:39.56Firebarthat would be helpful
22:39.59TekDroidAngrybirds_: Thank you, I've been hoping for that.
22:40.51Zmr56BAKISTAN! Like Pakistan only with agnostics and better,
22:42.04TekDroidFirebar: So basic ideas is something like this. (UKers, please feel free to correct me)
22:42.58Angrybirds_Let's start gathering in here >> #BNW! There are things I'd like to discuss eventually.
22:43.12TekDroid#BNW!
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22:43.36Gaseous_InkWhat happened to the dark blue people?
22:43.47TekDroidFirebar: actually, let's continue in there
22:43.53AngrybirdsPanda changed his mind.
22:44.19MonetJust came t oannounce that along with leaving Borealis, the Imperium is cutting ties with the Zoles and is withdrawing in its efforts against USO. also all Imperial gateway stations were destroyed.
22:44.52AvilladoxWhy?
22:46.21MonetOfficially, after reviewing Regnatus'/Vorius' activities and the damage caused by Zarkhator's crusade, they have deemed the PCA as inept in keeping order.
22:46.52MonetThus Boreails, i nthe eyes of the Grand Senate, is deemed as "too dangerous for long-term settlement"
22:47.35MonetSo right now they don't care what USO does within Borealis
22:47.52OluapPlayerI get it, you don't like my fiction, you don't have to keep repeating it
22:48.49MonetI never said this was me who thought this.
22:49.31MonetSo perhaps I was better off leaving you to find al lthis out for yourself.
22:50.07HachimanYou said yourself that you hated Oluap's apparently "Hollywood" and "video game" themed fiction
22:50.27HachimanSo really this all adds up to you just flat out not liking his fiction
22:50.38HachimanAnd that's fine but you don't need to be a dick about it
22:50.54MonetFIne.
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22:51.23HachimanGoddamn I wish he'd be more mature
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22:58.01AvilladoxHi
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23:07.07AdmiralPandahai all
23:07.09OluapPlayerpondo
23:07.22Avilladoxhi
23:07.43AngrybirdsPanda! #BNW! < stoof being discussed in here if you want to join
23:07.46OluapPlayerAdmiralPanda: I was using the Claymore for the first time in Dark Souls and hoyl shit I love it already
23:08.16AdmiralPandaheh tis truly a weapon of kings
23:08.36AvilladoxAngrybirds: I might join, but not until later
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23:22.22Zmr56http://i.imgur.com/hWewmDe.png I have better food!
23:33.03WormyFor me pie > mexican food > indian and thai food > everything else after
23:33.33WormyPie will always be the best because if any food bettered it, you could make a pie out of it.
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23:33.59AdmiralPandaas an Australian, I agree with this logic
23:34.06AdmiralPandapie is truly the greatest of all foods
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23:35.54Zmr56http://i.imgur.com/cE93ss8.png debtnote the new deathnote
23:37.11Hachimanolol
23:38.16Zmr56http://i.imgur.com/A63IDzx.png weed! 420!
23:39.39Cyrannianhttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140421233912/spore/images/e/ee/Saurornithanta.png - Upgraded their appearance.
23:40.25OluapPlayerThat looks great
23:40.30OluapPlayerI like the colours
23:41.05AdmiralPandaCyrannian: damn you've got some skill in those tiny waptor arms of yours
23:42.17Zmr56I like the heads
23:42.28Zmr56http://i.imgur.com/tMHRQQP.png Sweden throughout the years
23:42.48CyrannianThanks! You have no idea how difficult it is to manipulate a mouse when your arms are only a few inches long.
23:46.16HachimanAye they look fantastic
23:47.42Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10015661_10152123934429998_5281266675572791697_n.png
23:47.55*** join/#sporewiki OfficerJackal (46c1cddd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.193.205.221)
23:48.18OluapPlayerhur
23:48.27OluapPlayerBuying physical copies of things, at least
23:49.13WormyInternet = ultimate drug

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