IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140416

00:00.08Tecnhodroid_Damn this phone, I really should install a ROM soon
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00:03.25AvilladoxDang. I forgot to take off my Techno repellant.
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00:06.27Wormy_awaydrunk + using a telescope = daFukness oh look the moon haha
00:06.48WormyDon't worry im sober now
00:06.53AvilladoxHi Tek
00:07.33Wormymy telescope isn't powerful to view Mars in detail :/
00:07.37Wormybut I saw da moon
00:07.38AdmiralPandalots of things are more entertaining drunk :P
00:07.42Wormy^^^^^.
00:07.51Wormygod iots so fu8nny
00:08.48Wormyhi
00:08.54The_Randomnessbeep boop
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00:09.57Wormyhi
00:10.06AdmiralPandahi
00:10.14OluapPlayerhi
00:10.47The_Randomnessih
00:10.56MonetRandom 8 out of nowhere
00:11.16Monet"Judging by his dice rolls, seventeen unconscious orcs just fell from the ceiling."
00:11.27The_Randomnesslol
00:11.32MonetCeiling orc says hi
00:12.24AvilladoxMonet: Sounds like something from that out of context campaign quotes thread from
00:12.32Avilladox*earlier
00:13.11WormyI didn't get a red moon like you lucky Americans but I got some good details none the less
00:13.37MonetAvilladox: It is
00:14.48Avilladoxhttp://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?280469-Campaign-Quotes-NO-CONTEXT-EDITION!&highlight=campaign+quotes+no+context+edition For those who haven't seen
00:17.17The_Randomness"THIRTY GOLD PIECES FOR A SANDWICH?"
00:17.39WormyRandom:  How to create the quietest place on Earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrR0MplLfmM
00:18.47The_RandomnessI'll check that out later, currently doing some homework
00:19.40Avilladoxactivates the Reality Bomb
00:20.10AvilladoxProblem solved, Wormy.
00:20.10Wormyis a Xeelee
00:20.13Tecnhodroid_Right, process on the bot looks promising thus far
00:20.40WormyReality bomb seemed to only cancel out electromagnetic interactions
00:20.47OluapPlayerMake a bot that un-bores me
00:20.51Tecnhodroid_I'll be hosting it though, but until I move out, I can't stay on the IRC channel permenant
00:20.54OluapPlayerBecause I'm super bored right now
00:21.08Tecnhodroid_Well...hmm, I dunno
00:22.04Tecnhodroid_You could name the new bot?
00:22.18Tecnhodroid_I'm thinking "Grox_Emperor"
00:22.35The_RandomnessSteve
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00:22.50The_RandomnessThat should be the name of the bot.
00:22.50MonetWait it's Wednesday now?
00:22.51WormyMeta-Emperor
00:22.52OluapPlayerBoth are dum but Grox_Emperor is comparibly less dum
00:23.01Wormyyes
00:23.16Wormyfor 1 and 22 hours.
00:23.21AdmiralPandaOluapPlayer: If you're bored then go think about all the hilarity of what happens when Clotholaire gets Suggestion
00:23.21Wormy*23.
00:23.30MonetTime flies I thought it was Monday a few hours ago
00:23.32Tecnhodroid_It has to relate to Spore
00:23.37TekDroidHello
00:23.37OluapPlayerNot quite sure what that does though
00:23.48The_RandomnessThe sound of that worries me considerably
00:23.49WormyI can relate to your perception of time
00:23.51OluapPlayerhttps://31.media.tumblr.com/2de3cc2a36427644880078f49a473572/tumblr_mrjn0svCCQ1qam8b5o1_500.jpg
00:24.13MonetOluapPLayer: Suggestion = spell that allows you to convince someone ot do something you want
00:24.16WormyWe will all be in our 50's soon
00:24.22OluapPlayerAh
00:24.32OluapPlayerRight I see where you're going with this
00:24.34The_Randomnessohgosh, it's exactly what I thought it was
00:24.43OluapPlayerAutomatic canon
00:24.48MonetALthough you can't use Suggestion t odo stuff like tell somoene a pool of lava is a jacuzzi so go realx in it
00:24.56The_Randomnessaww
00:25.07OluapPlayerNot what I have in mind anyway
00:25.18WormyMonet:  Don't Hug Me I'm Scared 2 - TIME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtkGtXtDlQA
00:25.35Monet"You influence the actions of the target creature by suggesting a course of activity (limited to a sentence or two). The suggestion must be worded in such a manner as to make the activity sound reasonable. Asking the creature to do some obviously harmful act automatically negates the effect of the spell. "
00:26.00OluapPlayerIt's nothing harmfull
00:26.03OluapPlayerIt's actually quite pleasant
00:26.11AdmiralPandaMonet: Clotho and Hachi are in a party together, remember
00:26.47Tecnhodroid_Wormy, are you definitely sober? :D
00:26.54MonetMy point is the spell doesn't work if the act is unreasonable or obviously dangerous
00:27.37AdmiralPandaI think Hatchy would be quite interested in the Suggestion
00:27.42OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AInto_the_Flesh_Forest#Fun_Times_at_the_Beach relevant if you haven't seen yet
00:28.25MonetDunno if Clotho casting suggestion to make Hatchy jump on her and lustfully rip your clothes off in the middle of a crypt.will work
00:28.39MonetProbably but then again its in a crypt.
00:28.42WormyNo not really
00:28.51WormyBut I'm trying to be good for the chat
00:29.11WormyI'm not druyk enoiugh typo go HURR DURR
00:29.15Wormyoh I just did
00:29.19The_Randomnesskekekeke
00:29.28MonetTechnically that moment doesn't count
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00:30.38Wormyhi
00:31.22SimarsHello
00:31.27Tecnhodroid_hi
00:32.09SimarsIn your opinion what is the best philosophy? Warriors or Zealots?
00:32.24HachimanWell Warrior is definitely easiest
00:32.30The_RandomnessFanatical Frenzy is amazing
00:32.50OluapPlayerDiplomat is the only philosophy with a good power with no drawbacks
00:32.53The_RandomnessWarrior has the worst philosophy ability ever
00:33.19AvilladoxI tried Fanatical Frenzy once. Ended one war, started another
00:33.25The_Randomnessheh
00:33.33OluapPlayerwhich's why it's worthless
00:33.34AdmiralPandaOluapPlayer: So was Clotho frozen by this spell by chance?
00:33.49OluapPlayerYes
00:34.03OluapPlayerEveryone was except Kinmo who's a god-guy
00:34.40AvilladoxAnd Alhazred
00:34.56AdmiralPandasooo… implications
00:35.04OluapPlayerMore like statements
00:35.12OluapPlayerHachi saw Clotho naked
00:35.33AdmiralPandayeah, that's what I mean. there was no specification that Clotho was ok with this
00:35.37SimarsWhat about the knights what they think?
00:35.53OluapPlayerShe will never find out
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00:36.05AdmiralPandaeh, it just irks me is all
00:36.12AdmiralPandanot saying you shouldn't do it
00:36.23OluapPlayerIt's not supposed to be pure hur
00:36.30HachimanShe will when she returns to time and finds Hachi's cum over her and him panting on the ground after a furious fap sesh
00:36.48Hachiman...Dunno why I said that, apologies
00:36.59Tecnhodroid_...
00:37.01OluapPlayerAlhazred - YOU DONE GOOFED
00:37.07Tecnhodroid_._.
00:37.10The_RandomnessI did not just see that.
00:37.20OluapPlayerEh, I've read worse
00:37.46AvilladoxThe_Randomness:Yes, you did.  And you will never unsee it.
00:37.52MonetIts a very Hachi christmas.
00:38.09OluapPlayerSure escalated quickly
00:38.24OluapPlayerAlhazred - ur supposed to stare not touch u fuknugget
00:39.00WormyLiquid_Ink, Monet, Hachiman  http://youtu.be/dNwyfIFNl68?t=2m23s
00:39.24OluapPlayerI considered making Alhazred a troll and have the effect end as soon as Hachi made contact with Clotho but that'd ruin their relationship again hur
00:40.27Monet...Books are jerks
00:40.44OluapPlayerevil books of Kolossus expies
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00:42.39Tecnhodroid_You guys know /clear is a thing right
00:42.46OluapPlayerHachiman: picture dat scene
00:44.10MonetTechnodroid_: Yeah...
00:44.31OluapPlayerGonna do some TvTropes editing
00:45.02MonetFantasyverse or FIctionverse?
00:45.26OluapPlayerBorealis characters
00:45.33Tecnhodroid_Billig plz
00:45.42OluapPlayerWhat about him
00:45.57Tecnhodroid_He's cool :c
00:46.04OluapPlayerhe suks torrent is betta
00:46.15Tecnhodroid_Oh, does Xaltsa have any entry?
00:46.18Tecnhodroid_ya mom suks
00:46.21OluapPlayerNo hur
00:46.51OluapPlayerI'm bothered by how few tropes I can find for Vekaron
00:46.56Tecnhodroid_Add den
00:46.57OluapPlayerConsidering he's the main hero of Borealis and all
00:47.37Tecnhodroid_Catchphrase is always ez
00:48.04Monet"Hmpf. You call this a drink? You wuss.” - Royal Admiral Herquie
00:48.15MonetDraconis - Dude have some of our wine and say that again
00:48.35OluapPlayerHerquie - bring it fatty
00:48.44AdmiralPandaFordanta - Challenge accepted *stomach partitions*
00:49.11MonetDraconis - *passes Herquie some gold-coloured wine*
00:49.55AdmiralPandahm, so gonna have to houserule in a divine wand of suggestion or something, or at least a couple of scrolls
00:50.06AdmiralPandacus apparently suggestion is not a cleric spell for some reason. what heresy is this
00:50.20OluapPlayery not
00:50.27OluapPlayerI should be able to order pesky undead
00:50.31OluapPlayerand pesky love interests
00:50.37AdmiralPandathat's Command Undead, which clerics can get
00:50.42MonetMaybe its mind control power is why?
00:50.54Tecnhodroid_Can someone nag me to remake the Perils of Ottzello page tomorrow?
00:50.56AdmiralPandaMonet: That's the thing though, they get Command and a couple other mind control spells
00:50.57MonetI know clerics get a few control spells.
00:51.19Tecnhodroid_Anyways I have to sleep now
00:51.50AdmiralPandaah well it's a third-level spell anyway so I can throw it in some loot early on
00:51.53Tecnhodroid_Byee!
00:52.03AdmiralPandaanyone willing to miss out on 150 gold worth of loot for a cheap gag?
00:52.05OluapPlayerI do have Animated Dead
00:52.22OluapPlayerAnd I have zero whole healing spells because I don't like anyone here
00:52.48The_Randomness:<
00:53.09OluapPlayerjk I actually have all possible healing spells for my level
00:53.34The_RandomnessI was about to say "OMG NOOB SUPPORT, REPROT PLS"
00:53.38The_Randomness:p
00:54.04AdmiralPandayeah, no duplicates but he does have one of each level, plus channel healing
00:54.09OluapPlayerI can heal people, animate the dead, turn water into holy water, buff allies, set my sword on fire, create light, paralyze and launch beams of pure sun power
00:54.15OluapPlayerBut most importantly
00:54.17OluapPlayerI can CREATE WATER
00:54.17MonetAdmiralPanda: At level 5 I'm guessing 150 gold isn't too massive a deal?
00:54.21AdmiralPandaand spontaneous heals too which are handy
00:54.34AdmiralPandaMonet: the average loot pile at level 5 is 2000 per encounter, so no :P
00:54.49The_Randomnesslodsamoney
00:55.00OluapPlayerMy water will save us at some point
00:55.02OluapPlayerIt needs to happen
00:55.06Monet2000 gold? loadsamoney?
00:55.17MonetPFFFT
00:55.34AdmiralPandaOluapPlayer: well you do have that plan to make many many bottles of holy water
00:55.49OluapPlayeraka anti-undead grenades
00:57.24MonetTown water in medieval times was probably as hygenic as the average toilet. So water bottles can also act as anti-everything grenades if you are willing ot wait a few weeks
00:57.55AdmiralPandaso yeah I can BS up a couple of divine scrolls of suggestion
00:57.58The_Randomnessheh
00:58.08AdmiralPandathose things last for hours too ;P
00:58.22The_RandomnessIs holy water safe to drink?
00:58.30AdmiralPandaah right found out why clerics don't get suggestion: it's an Arcane spell
00:58.36MonetThose divine scrolls were once the property of a group of young clerics who wanted to get laid.
00:58.45Monetyoung mages*
00:59.17AvilladoxThe_Randomness: Yeah, unless you're a Vampire
00:59.27The_RandomnessOk, just wanted to make sure
00:59.30AdmiralPandaRandom: yeah, it only hurts undead/evil outsiders
01:00.20OluapPlayerSo if it hurts you then I must kill you
01:00.30AvilladoxOf course, the Cleric who made it might get offended
01:00.43MonetEh, why not throw normal water and kill with cholera?
01:01.00The_RandomnessIt's a biohazard to you as well
01:01.14OluapPlayerI make water out of thin air
01:01.18OluapPlayerIt can't get cleaner than that
01:01.21MonetSo long as you're stupid enough to drink it
01:01.55MonetIts a biohazard so long as you're stupid enough to drink it
01:01.59AdmiralPandaMonet: Oluap makes pure water tho
01:02.23MonetHmm, pure water or beer...
01:02.29OluapPlayerNo just water hur
01:02.41MonetNo I'm asking which sounds more inticing
01:02.59Monetor which would be the preferred drink
01:03.00The_Randomnessorite, here's my CS with some added stuff http://pastie.org/private/okycayz0wrvgzdu7vwmsgg
01:04.09The_RandomnessAs well as a somewhat lame backstory I cooked up in a relatively short amount of time
01:04.39MonetMy backstory fels short now
01:04.53Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10257919_688079231254879_8151065589024937357_n.jpg
01:05.37OluapPlayerSo that's real
01:05.42OluapPlayerI thought they were fake
01:05.46AdmiralPandaoh yeah
01:05.56AdmiralPandathere are giant spiders that jump out of trees to attack birds in africa
01:06.14AvilladoxAnd Brazil
01:06.19OluapPlayerGah why do I have so much difficulty finding tropes for my own characters
01:06.24OluapPlayerAnnoys me like hell
01:06.31MonetThis is why I prefer Europe.
01:07.15MonetThe most dangerous animal-based thing I can think of in EUrope is rabies.
01:08.02MonetI don't know how but I feel extremely lucky that rabies is largely unknown in the UK
01:08.21MonetWe know OF it, you just don't hear cases of it
01:10.46AdmiralPandaIn the meantime Australians just got used to being surrounded by lethal animals
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01:17.05MonetI think i'll add a section for ALternate Character Interpretation
01:17.31MonetFrom my observations, the community is divided on whether Dreamy Hachi is either the cutest or creepiest thing ever
01:18.13AvilawayJudging from Cyrannian's page, Antediluvian get's this as well
01:19.01OluapPlayerBy community you mean Xho
01:19.09The_Randomnesshue
01:19.26MonetStill counts as alternative interpretation
01:20.31AvilladoxHere's a trope I think sums up my opinion on Dreamy Hachi's cuteness:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CreepyCute
01:21.31Wormywe have some horribly poisonous plants
01:21.37Wormyand funi
01:21.44Wormyfungi
01:21.46Wormydats it
01:22.01MonetExcept Dreamy Hachi wasn't meant ot be creepy in the first place
01:22.28AvilladoxGood point
01:22.55Wormyif hachiman was real http://happyplace.someecards.com/15235/the-creepiest-easter-bunny-photos-ever-taken
01:23.49AvilladoxI don't get what's creepy about the second one
01:23.54Wormyhttp://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-65-sketchiest-easter-bunnies
01:24.27MonetThat monochrome picture looks like ot was done by a certain off-the-wall Rapture artist.
01:25.11AvilladoxHappy Easter #Sporewiki!
01:25.16Wormylol the 70's
01:25.38The_RandomnessMy birthday is on Easter this year
01:25.40The_Randomnesser
01:26.01The_RandomnessWhy did I just say that?
01:26.02Wormymost of them are from the 70s lol
01:26.32Wormyyour anonymity is in the slippery slope
01:28.03AvilladoxI release all my personal information here!
01:28.09AvilladoxAnd get it all wrong
01:28.17MonetOh bloody hell #8
01:28.23Monet7*
01:28.34Wormyhttp://thesweetest3.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Hayden_easterbunny2.jpg
01:30.15AvilladoxThat's less "Happy Easter" and more "I will steal your soul and put it in an egg. Can you find it?"
01:31.27Wormyhow is that even a rabbit https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5293206528/h3583EF77/
01:31.36AdmiralPandaAvilladox: Creepycute is when something scary manages to be cute, not the other way around
01:32.16AvilladoxI know. I recognized that I used the trope wrong.
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01:33.05MonetWormy: #52: Easter Bunny the hitch-hiker
01:33.46OluapPlayeru lot quit laughin at Hachi's family pictures
01:33.47Wormylol
01:33.54AdmiralPandahur
01:34.07Wormybig rabbit family
01:34.16The_Randomnesslol
01:34.38Hachimanstahp
01:35.11AdmiralPandaHachi is alive! You've been gone for ages
01:35.17AdmiralPandatackle-hugs Hachiman
01:35.26HachimanSorry ;-;
01:35.44Avilladox~kiss Hachi
01:35.45infobotACTION forces Hachi to give ChanServ a big kiss on the lips
01:35.46Wormy19 http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/minecraft.gamepedia.com/thumb/8/89/Ghast.png/150px-Ghast.png?version=8550ec988d50bd8507de4333d10116ae
01:35.50OluapPlayerey fuk off
01:35.54OluapPlayerHe is my property
01:36.29OluapPlayerWell I added Gardin to the Borealis Characters page
01:37.36AvilladoxDoes Cute Monster Girl count for her?
01:37.42Monethttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/SporeWikiFictionUniverse there
01:37.56AvilladoxThat would only apply if male Rovegar were ugly
01:39.00OluapPlayer"Any "exotic" being (>alien<, monster, robot, demon, ghost, etc.) bearing a strong resemblance to a conventionally attractive human female, sometimes when there is no reason for her to appear that way."
01:39.01OluapPlayeryes
01:40.01Avilladoxdope slaps himself
01:40.11OluapPlayerWe should have a nightmare fuel page
01:40.12Wormybye
01:40.59AvilladoxI've been thinking that myself.
01:42.09OluapPlayerFrom what I've read around the site, the nightmare fuel pages are more for general allegedly scary things than actual nightmare fuel
01:42.14OluapPlayerSo we should be able to make a sizeable list
01:44.13MonetWell scariness is subjective.
01:44.28MonetFeel free to list everything that happens on Kol Daren's House Of Horror though.
01:45.13OluapPlayerI suppose I can't talk since I've never felt fear of a fiction
01:45.39OluapPlayerBut Kol Daren is an example of a potential entry
01:46.17OluapPlayerI still think it feels like the average TvTropes user would be scared for life if a skeleton popped up in front of them going "ooga booga"
01:46.28SimarsHello people
01:46.58The_RandomnessHello
01:47.00AvilladoxYeah. Phineas and Ferb have their own nightmare fuel page.
01:47.17SimarsDo you think good the knight philosophy?
01:47.23OluapPlayerThe only nightmarish thing about Phineas and Ferb is Phineas' Doritos-shaped head
01:47.54The_RandomnessKnight is really only good for the stage archetype bonuses
01:48.45OluapPlayerhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131215174400/spore/images/e/e9/LogsOfAWranploerVessel.png I nominate this as the page picture hur
01:49.36HachimanI agree hur
01:50.07OluapPlayerAdmitelly I made that story after reading a lot of creepypastas
01:50.08AvilladoxI have seen the face of horror hur
01:52.23AvilladoxI suppose the Perterrent could be considered scary to some.
01:52.51OluapPlayerThere are people who are scared of the Waterwraith aka the Perterrent's inspiration
01:52.52OluapPlayerSo yes
01:53.29AvilladoxPerterrent is pretty much Waterwraith meets Slenderman
01:54.14OluapPlayerYeah I believe I can make a good list just by using my own fiction
01:54.21OluapPlayerI do own the literal nightmare god after all
01:54.42AvilladoxRegnatus could qualify
01:55.47AvilladoxWhen it comes to this, I judge fictional scariness as "would this scare me if it happened in real life?"
01:56.15SimarsWhat about the Shamans, they are good?
01:56.31OluapPlayerHmm. Would Gorf fall under Ugly Cute?
01:56.58AvilladoxProbably.
01:57.06HachimanYes
01:57.34MonetDefinitely
01:57.55OluapPlayerDefinitely ded
01:57.59The_RandomnessI shall be going, bye guys!
01:58.28AvilladoxGorf's ugly cuteness forced them to flee hur
02:00.40OluapPlayerTime to edit as if I was a scaredy cat TvTropes editor who's afraid of everything including my own shadow
02:01.34AvilladoxI'll contribute to that
02:01.42Avilladox~fear
02:01.42infobotFear is the mind-killer.  Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.  I will face my fear.  I will permit it to pass over me and through me.  And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.  Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.  Only I will remain.  Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
02:02.11AvilladoxWe've heard from the expert. Let's get our scare on.
02:04.24DrodoEmpire"This game (Rome 2) is about as optimised for PC as my asshole is optimised for pinecones." - Reynold Sanity on Rome 2
02:13.09AdmiralPandawat
02:13.23DrodoEmpireExactly. XD
02:13.45Avilladoxhttp://notalwaysworking.com/not-taking-his-job-deathly-seriously/32520 Let's hope this guy just has a sick sense of humour.
02:14.43TekDroidO.o
02:15.00DrodoEmpireHah
02:16.05Avilladoxhttp://notalwaysworking.com/in-every-relationship-theres-give-and-tray/28209 Give it what it wants.
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04:09.07TekDroidUpdated [[Fiction:Farengeto Republic/History]]
04:10.03TekDroidspore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Farengeto_Republic#History
04:54.24TybusenI look back on some of my older fiction stories and I cry because my writing was so terribad back then
05:01.51TekDroidYeah.
05:02.38TekDroidI don't want to give up on this, though it'll need either full editing to keep it going
05:03.26TekDroidthe early Farengeto was rather bad.
05:04.52TekDroidFarengeto has gone through a lot of refinement
05:07.23TekDroidNight!
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05:31.33ImperiosHi Tybusen
05:31.46TybusenHai Imp
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05:39.35Avilladox~gender
05:39.35infobotI'm not sure
05:39.44AvilladoxFair enough
05:45.21TybusenImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tybusen_Intergalactic_Allied_Federation/Relations So I've been doing an overhaul of this
05:45.34ImperiosLemme see
05:46.47Imperios>  Head diplomat: Ambassador Sasha Kechrolev
05:46.53ImperiosSasha Kechrolev
05:46.58ImperiosWHO TOUCHED MY GUN
05:47.52TybusenI made it a Russian-ish name just for you
05:48.29TybusenIf you look at all the names of the non-Regional Ambassadors, there somewhat of a naming scheme going on if you're watchful
05:48.45ImperiosAyw
05:48.47ImperiosAye
05:48.52Imperios>Matthew Nekomura
05:49.16ImperiosNyan
05:49.27ImperiosTybusen: It's actually funny if you think about it
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05:50.34Imperios<PROTECTED>
05:50.44Tybusendam u I was just about to say that
05:51.13TybusenWell it'd be more like "Alex" or "Xander" or "Andrea" rather than "Alexander-chan" :U
05:52.37ImperiosYa
05:52.58ImperiosBut -chan makes everything kawaii ~●~●~
05:53.56TybusenBut when I think of Hoovy I don't think kawaii
05:54.05Tybusenoh
05:54.07Tybusenbtw
05:54.10Tybusenhave I ever mentioned
05:54.22TybusenI ship Heavy and Sasha from Attack on Titan
05:57.57TybusenImperios: Have you ever thought about the TIAF and Divirats interacting more
05:58.09ImperiosProbably
06:07.42TybusenLike some kind of TIAF-Divirat state visit and the TIAF and Divirat actually signing an official alliance, I dunno
06:12.53AvilladoxThat does sound like an interesting story
06:19.49AvilladoxIt'd be interesting to see cultiral differences between TIAF and the Divirats
06:21.53Avilladox*cultural
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07:11.10ImperiosFuk
07:11.14ImperiosHi Liquid
07:11.40Liquid_InkHello
07:11.43Liquid_InkWhy fuk?
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07:18.21Liquid_InkI see
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07:50.06AdmiralPandahello all
07:50.41Liquid_InkHello
07:55.38ImperiosHi
07:59.46ImperiosAdmiralPanda and Liquid_Ink: I'm thinking of making a Maya-themed human nation
08:01.55Liquid_InkFantasyverse?
08:05.19ImperiosYa
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08:12.35dromey
08:13.20Liquid_InkHey Impy
08:15.47Liquid_InkRemember when I was discussing Russian politics with you, and then I asked you to give me a name for an entirely new Party and a President for it, to which you provided me with 'New Vision' and 'Hachatur Agaronyan'?
08:16.11Liquid_InkCould you provide me with the Russian/Cyrillic translations/transliterations for those again?
08:26.12Liquid_InkImperios
08:35.16ImperiosНовый Взгляд, Хачатур Агаронян
08:35.37Liquid_InkThank you
08:39.02Liquid_InkDo you have any idea for a symbol they could use? Like how United Russia has the bear with the Russian flag over it
08:51.54ImperiosWhat do you have in mind for their political ideology?
08:54.23dromUhmh. I think I made a Space Marine out of my aemonkian
08:56.17dromhttp://i.imgur.com/3mfJLm3.png
08:56.38Liquid_InkLiberal and nice
08:56.45dromIt's not finished. But I tested on how it would look like on the Aemonkians.
08:57.01dromAnd it's even a cape
08:57.14drom*meanwhile in my mind*
08:57.17dromNO CAPES!
08:57.32Liquid_InkSorta left-wing, but not to КПРФ degrees.
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08:57.52AdmiralPandaand I'm back
08:58.31Liquid_InkMaybe like the Nordic model, I'm not sure
08:58.33dromhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy2YhxXn7NY
08:58.58Liquid_InkI love that movie
09:09.49dromI gave it a dress. I don't like it.
09:26.23dromngh, dressing and coloring if quite hard
09:27.06dromThat I almost feel like that I have to remake the Aemonkian with only vanilla parts.
09:35.48ImperiosLiquid_Ink: White and blue then
09:36.50Liquid_InkI was to go with purple for colour, I was more talking about symbols
09:37.02Liquid_InkUnless of course purple has bad connotations in Russia?
09:38.35Liquid_Inkhttp://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/BatSpace.gif
09:40.03dromFor a reason. I have removed the packages required for the models. But they still presist.
09:40.28dromMust be the cache
09:46.18dromOh... I don't have C&C installed yet.
09:46.22dromGreat...
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10:00.42GhelaeHello.
10:02.34Liquid_InkHello!
10:02.37Liquid_InkHow are you?
10:07.07GhelaeI'm all right; how about you?
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10:07.36Liquid_InkI'm pretty well.
10:07.37Liquid_InkHello!
10:07.39Liquid_InkHow are you?
10:08.01Technobliteratorhey
10:08.02TechnobliteratorI'm fine
10:08.04Technobliteratoryou?
10:08.46Liquid_InkI'm pretty well.
10:14.04AdmiralPandahai techno
10:14.13AdmiralPandaalso hai ghel
10:14.36AdmiralPandahm, a thought just occurred to me
10:14.54AdmiralPandanow that Into the Flesh Garden is finished, another collab is going to pop up sometime soon
10:15.01AdmiralPandaso that gives me a chance to do some fantasyverse stuff
10:30.06Liquid_Inkhttp://i.imgur.com/lFF94xU.jpg Pictures of myself usually make me look really unattractive, but this one came out okay.
10:32.42Liquid_InkLighting is terrible of course.
10:44.40dromRecolored and fixed some parts for my marine. http://i.imgur.com/E61jWgL.png
10:45.16dromThe lighting is terrible. Cause, windows 8.
10:47.19Liquid_InkNo, cause iPod on a plane.
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10:52.11Wormyhello
10:54.31Wormythe hexagonal burrow creature is cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug7AaJjwBDA
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11:10.57Wormyhttp://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2014/apr/16/fashion-conscious-men-warned-we-may-have-reached-peak-beard
11:11.12Wormymy mother tries everything to make me shave my beard
11:15.14WormyI hate seeing family google+ comments on youtube its so naff,
11:15.28Wormy"Look son, this is what I was telling you about"
11:15.35Wormy"oh wow daddy"
11:15.38dromLiquid_Ink: I talked about my graphic. :|
11:15.42Wormygtfo
11:20.04dromHave an album of my progress on the marine.
11:20.05dromhttp://imgur.com/a/AtHQ8
11:20.10dromThe top one is scrapped.
11:20.22Liquid_InkCool
11:21.37dromApart from some rendering errors in the last picture. I'm proud of it now.
11:25.14dromIf anyone want to fiddle or learn from them. I attach an album of them. Inclusive older ones. http://imgur.com/a/bM6KP
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11:28.18dromSo many slaves here.
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11:35.54Hachimanhai
11:38.11OluapWorkeromg hai
11:38.20Liquid_InkHello
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11:45.16GhelHello.
11:49.14Liquid_InkHello
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11:51.28The_RandomnessHello everyone
11:52.01GhelHello.
12:06.12The_RandomnessI'll be back in a bit
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12:11.51Monethttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/NightmareFuel/SporeWikiFictionUniverse I added a few of my own
12:12.12OluapWorkerGood thing you posted it here then
12:12.16OluapWorkerBecause I'm editing atm
12:17.03OluapWorkerI'll replace the Vorius mention with the one I already wrote if you don't mind
12:17.32AdmiralPandahi Monet
12:17.36AdmiralPandaalso hai Oluap
12:17.55MonetOluapWorker: What was your entry going to be?
12:18.17MonetThis is just me speaking but I always imagined the Blob being more widely-know nthan the Waterwraith.
12:18.22OluapWorkerMine is considerably larger hur
12:19.00OluapWorkerI'm describing what he really is + what he does to people + his goal
12:19.35MonetI kept it short because I figured saying he's "the Blob with legs/teleportation " was nightmare fuel enough
12:19.38OluapWorkerAlso you're confusing Vorius with the Perterrent. That one is based on the Waterwraith
12:19.49MonetMy apologies then
12:19.50Liquid_Inkhttps://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6413087488/hC3F4DEF4/
12:19.53Liquid_Inkhttps://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6149835776/h3939E0DC/
12:20.23OluapWorkerEverything you wrote was already on what I wrote so I'm moer or less just expanding on it
12:20.32MonetRight, fair enough
12:20.58OluapWorkerI actually was going to mention the Thing rather than the Blob
12:20.59OluapWorkerI confuse the two often
12:22.00MonetThe blob can't really disguise himself.
12:22.12OluapWorkerIt fits Vorius better then
12:22.20OluapWorkerAnyway I added my thing
12:22.49Technobliteratorno USO
12:22.51Technobliterator0/10
12:23.09OluapWorkercan't read
12:23.10OluapWorker-10/10
12:23.36Technobliteratorya moms dum
12:23.38Technobliterator-20/10
12:24.10OluapWorkerHow about the shup the fuk up and go remake the Perils of Ottzello page
12:25.01Technobliteratoroh
12:25.02MonetTechnobliterator: It mentions Xaltsa you blonde.
12:25.03Technobliteratoryeah sure
12:25.31Monet" If you are performing under or watching a performance by Xaltsa, either you will be forced to applaud it no matter how bad it is, or you will have no say in performing as hostile aliens slaughter and/or devour the audience. "
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12:26.19JepardiHi
12:26.41OluapWorkerCan't think of anything else to add
12:26.43OluapWorkerVarugr maybe
12:28.26MonetDunno if Volkarus is nightmare fuel worthy.
12:28.49MonetApart fro mthe fact killing him never seems to get rid of him
12:28.49OluapWorkerI'm not the best person to judge that
12:29.32OluapWorkerSame could be said for Kolossus but in his case, no one sees him as a threat anymore
12:30.56OluapWorkerI could add the Chosen but idunno how scary they were
12:31.45MonetI suppose one way Volk averts vollain decay is whenever he comes back he's more dangerous.
12:32.02HachimanI like the Chosen, they were scary
12:32.07HachimanAnd yeah Varugr can be nightmare fuel
12:32.38OluapWorkerHis "eat people alive" is
12:32.43OluapWorkerHis "praise the sun" side isn't hur
12:32.47OluapWorkerside*
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12:33.38Technobliteratordone
12:33.39OluapWorkerTo me it feels pointless to kill a char if they're gonna come back anyway, it eventually becomes annoying
12:33.45MonetI remember when the Inquisition first discovered him he was told that eating Draconis won't keep him slim, so Varugr swelled is muscles to make a point.
12:33.49OluapWorkerWhich is why I don't use resurrection in my ficiton anymore
12:34.04Monethis own*
12:34.18Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aG9NZbX_460s.jpg
12:34.30MonetI suppose its why we have Valserion now.
12:34.45MonetVolkarus is slipping int othe background a bit
12:34.51OluapWorkerHell there's gonna be another war after the Cleansing Flames?
12:35.33MonetAnother war?
12:36.14OluapWorkerThe Perils of Ottzello page has another event for after the Cleansing Flames
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12:38.28ImperiosEllo
12:38.33MonetHm.
12:38.53MonetWell let's be honest, peace is just  a breather period.
12:39.14OluapWorkerWell I'm commenting on it because I have my own plans
12:39.28MonetI smell a lack of communication.
12:40.02dromYis. This new marine will do good.
12:40.12OluapWorkerngh if we had Xho here we could do the "kill Vorius" section
12:40.42Technobliteratorthere will be another war which will happen whenever convenient for me
12:40.45ImperiosHm
12:40.49OluapWorkerI'm sure you'll enjoy doing that one
12:41.03Technobliteratorit will be a lot shorter
12:41.12ImperiosDo you have any relatives that condone to their respective national stereotypea?
12:41.15Technobliteratorand...probably happen years after the cleansing flames when I get a job anyway
12:41.47MonetImperios: I have a gran in Yorkshire who's a die-hard Labour follower.
12:43.14ImperiosI said that because I realised that at least four of my relatives at the maternal side are doctors
12:43.27ImperiosOne of them is even a professor of medicine
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12:45.26MonetPart of me wonders what case of nightmare fuel do we hav ethat doesn't come from demons using demon powers.
12:45.33Monetdemons or descended beings
12:45.50OluapWorkerVorius hur
12:46.10MonetTechnically he's been empowered by a UT so he semi doesn't count.
12:46.37OluapWorkeru semi dunt count
12:46.42Monet:(
12:47.30MonetWel lthere was the Grox mechovirus
12:47.31OluapWorkerOnce Tetra's plot starts progressing again I'm sure I can come up with a Zarkhator entry
12:47.46Liquid_InkIt's now a Vermulan mechanovirus
12:47.54Liquid_InkI should actually write up its page
12:48.15AdmiralPandaso are there any new fantasyverse plots in the works?
12:48.24OluapWorkerXho's Eschaton
12:48.42AdmiralPanda(not to rag on Xho) anything else?
12:48.46OluapWorkerNo hur
12:49.00AdmiralPandadamn, cus that thing's a political and I don't have a faction
12:49.24AdmiralPandagoes and kicks a rock
12:49.40OluapWorkerI'm not working on the fantasyverse again until I have Ice Age Year 6 done
12:49.57OluapWorkermust end arc must kill char must do oluap things
12:50.16ImperiosAdmiralPanda: WLLM
12:51.03dromwatch yourself before you oluap yourself
12:51.31AdmiralPandaImperios: wut is this?
12:53.14ImperiosShort adventure story bout magic
12:53.27OluapWorkermajik
12:53.33AdmiralPandarite, we talk about this after league game
12:54.43ImperiosIt will be divided into several short arcs
12:54.54ImperiosYou can join after the Frontier story
12:56.48dromLooking into an article about the shrek meme. I can't breathe.
13:03.27MonetI was watching an animal documentary a while back and it gave an explaination as to why humans are so varied with their facial features when compared t oother animals.
13:03.55MonetSImply put, its because we have a rather rubbish sense of smell.
13:04.04dromhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/609/622/559.jpg
13:06.22MonetEach of us probably does have a characteristic scent, its just our noses aren't powerful enough to detect and differentiate as say a dog.
13:07.09MonetSo rather than differentiating by smell, humans evolved ot differentiate by look
13:08.43Wormy_awayI suppose it is how swans can tell their cygnets from others, or how ducks can tell apart their ducklings.
13:09.02MonetYeah
13:09.22MonetIt makes me wonder how this could factor into the wikiverse considering how many predator sapiens we have
13:11.28HachimanZazane really rely much on scent to differentiate between one another; when all your people have differing scars, skin tones, body builds, etc smell isn't really that entirely important
13:11.35HachimanBut they do have a great sense of smell nonetheless
13:12.01Hachiman*don't really rely
13:13.17MonetConsidering the ind of eye for detail Draconis have, maybe they can mroe easily notice more subtle differences in head and body structure.
13:13.24HachimanIt's rare for any two Zazane to look completely identical, and even if you think two Zazane look identical a Zazane wouldn't see it that way cuz their attention to detail is much better than ours
13:14.05MonetAnother similarity between Draconis and Zazane.
13:14.17HachimanAye
13:16.20MonetHmm so far the best way I can expalin as t ohow Draconissenses are more attuned than humans' is they have more efficient brains.
13:16.33MonetTHat and their sense of touch is probably less fine.
13:17.47OluapWorkerHachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/src/1397630886377.gif boop
13:18.49Hachimanboop
13:19.25OluapWorkerhttp://i.4cdn.org/vg/src/1397632330298.jpg he got gud
13:20.07MonetWhile the human crebrum is partitioned down the middle and fold over itself once, the Draconis brain is partitioned dow nthe middle with each side divided into three modules, each of which are folded over once. So there's more room for major blood vessels.
13:20.26OluapWorkerhttp://i.4cdn.org/vg/src/1397632621616.jpg best
13:21.54Wormyhttp://www.worth1000.com/entries/116889/star-shrek-borg
13:24.26dromI like how my space station's filename is "naakspasta"
13:24.50AdmiralPandacan anyone think of page content I should work on?
13:25.07OluapWorkerAll of them
13:25.19AdmiralPandau
13:25.24AdmiralPanday u do dis?
13:28.16Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10251976_794735870547426_8819183075105964259_n.jpg
13:28.54OluapWorkerhttp://i.4cdn.org/vg/src/1397639924610.jpg
13:29.09Hachiman"gape-chan"
13:29.11HachimanI lol'd
13:30.33OluapWorkerNot the first moe-fied Gaping Dragon I come across
13:31.31dromI got 47 images to categorizate.
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13:45.07PrimiusHi
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13:50.55PrimiusHi quark
13:51.35quark8Hi
13:53.26AdmiralPandaohgod, randomly rolling a character sheet, get two 3's for ability scores
14:01.28Primiuswat
14:02.00AdmiralPandathat's bad
14:02.06AdmiralPandaas in 3 is the minimum score you can get
14:02.19AdmiralPandanobody cares really, but it was so bad I thought I'd mention it
14:04.18Monet3s are infant-level stats right?
14:04.47Primiusfu
14:04.55AdmiralPandalet's put it this way: a 3 in intelligence is barely smart enough to comprehend languages, but is one step above animals
14:05.07Primiusomg
14:05.08Primiuswat
14:06.35AdmiralPandayou average magic creature that still can't talk is int 6 or so
14:06.46AdmiralPandaand the only things with strength 3 are swarms of tiny creatures
14:07.03Primiusomg
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14:07.42Sporeraptorhi
14:08.18AdmiralPandahi
14:08.49quark8hi
14:08.57AdmiralPandaeh I'm probably gonna vanish shortly, no fiction stuff to do and nothing to pester people over
14:09.32SporeraptorI aksed already yesterday, but noone reacted. What do you think about my new starfighters ? http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140415213608/spore/images/a/ac/TroodImpStarfightersSmaller.png
14:10.05AdmiralPandahey those are awesome
14:10.08PrimiusCool
14:10.38SporeraptorThanks
14:11.08PrimiusNp
14:13.27quark8cool
14:17.05Monet"See, Lovecraft's stories haven't remained popular so long just because his monsters are scary. They endure because his monsters are metaphors for existential alienation. It's not the appearance of the monsters in his stories, it's the reality of them, the fact that they exist. Their existence alone proves that humanity is doomed and that all our hopes and dreams are stupid. "
14:17.55MonetHmm, this makes me wonder if I might be risking de-scarying the Star Dragons by having them act as, well, people.
14:17.59MonetOd people but still people.
14:22.29OluapWorkerbbl
14:31.18Wormybloody hell
14:31.49WormyMy mind has encountered a nice bit of counter-intuitive theoretical physics again.
14:34.11quark8...
14:34.17WormySimply put.  You know those impossible tribars?  In a complex, non-local quantum space, a photon's momentum can be described by an object called a twistor.  Now there are rules to the spin states of entangled photons that they must follow, and it is analogous to the tribar
14:35.13WormyA tribar's impossibility (or cohomology) is non-local, you csn glue most of the parts together locally, but the final impossible piece can be glued on non-locally
14:35.28Wormy*cannot be glued on, sorry
14:36.55WormyA single particle system as a twistor follows the same analogy
14:39.24WormyWhen a measurement of the particle's wavefunction is made, the "impossible" (or complex non-local mode) is broken
14:40.14WormyAnd the particle once detected isn't seen anywhere else
14:40.51WormySo in a sense, "impossible tribars" do exist, not concretely but as twistors.
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14:42.41PrimiusHi
14:44.17WormyÌmpossible objects may exist as self-evident abstract truths, through our mathematics and virtual reality we can experience them.  And in Constructor Theory, impossible transformations take a roll in physics as well as possible ones.
14:44.19WormyHi
14:45.53Technobliteratorbbl
14:46.20PrimiusCya Tech
14:46.31quark8Cya
14:46.37quark8tech
14:58.20HachimanI like how Imperial tacticians were confused by the movements of the Tyranids that were popping up all over the galaxy and only later realized that they had completely forgotten the fact that they live in a 3-dimensional space, assuming the Tyranids to be coming from the edges of the galaxy and only later realizing that the Tyranids were coming from BELOW the galaxy
14:59.57MonetThe ultimate fail that: Going though the academy and not realising that space isn't flat
15:00.13PrimiusLOL
15:00.14PrimiusXD
15:01.22HachimanMust make you think how bad the Imperial education system is
15:02.10MonetI recall the Ecclesiachy tries to keep secret the chaos demons
15:02.29PrimiusOR above the galaxy
15:02.31PrimiusXD
15:02.32MonetSo for most Imperial citizens the Warp is "wierd otheruniverse place that's trying ot kill us for some reason"
15:04.34WormyIn Orion's Arm, early space combat was more like the sci-fi battles we are used to, with commanders thinking largely in 2D
15:05.07HachimanI remember that prior to the Heresy, the Emperor kept knowledge of Chaos and Daemons and the Immaterium private or something like that
15:05.13HachimanNot even his Primarchs could know
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15:06.19Monet"ignorance is bliss" as they say
15:06.23Sporeraptorhi
15:06.25WormyOnly later, was four dimensions (relativistic effects) taken into account.  In fact, six dimensional phase space of velocity and position.
15:06.28Hachimanhai u
15:06.34OluapPlayeromg hai
15:06.53WormySporeWikiverse battles permit FTL, so I imagine battles could be higher dimensional still.
15:07.25MonetWait I jsut realised. If one of the Hive FLeets invaded from below the galactic plane, what stops them from just appearing underneath Sol?
15:08.07WormyLooks like you've poked a hole in Warhammer
15:08.59WormyMaybe the God Emperor
15:09.16WormyDoesn't he watch the warp and fight the demons in it
15:09.27HachimanTyranids don't use the Warp
15:09.35WormyPerhaps we can stop the Tyranid fleets
15:09.42WormyWhat do they use?
15:09.59HachimanThey use some form of FTL, not entirely sure but they don't depend on the Warp last time I saw
15:10.05HachimanAlso, the God Emperor and the Astronomican act as fast food beacons
15:10.16HachimanThey're attracted by the sheer amount of psychic energy
15:10.17Monetlol
15:10.38OluapPlayerThe God Emperor is the reason the Tyranids have arrived in the first place
15:10.47OluapPlayerhe's a not a very good warden
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15:10.51Hachimanhur
15:10.56Sporeraptorhi
15:11.12ImperiosEllo
15:11.19ImperiosFinally, no essays to do
15:11.19HachimanIt's implied that the Tyranids are in the galaxy because of the Emperor and the Astronomicon while other sources imply that they're fleeing from something, or both
15:11.20MonetAnother reason the war agianst the Tyranids is futile: Al lthe planets the Imperium either doesn't know about or doesnt' care about (like minor alien worlds)
15:11.52ImperiosAlso Tyranids are very efficient at using their resources
15:11.58Imperios*the Tyranids
15:12.01OluapPlayerI like the idea of blaming the humans for everything
15:12.05OluapPlayerFirst theory is my headcanon
15:12.09Hachimanhur
15:12.15WormyEverything's futile in 40K
15:12.37OluapPlayerMy headcanon also states Gork and Mork will eventually beat all the other Chaos Gods up and paint the galaxy green with sheerk Orks
15:12.39OluapPlayersheer*
15:12.47Hachimanolol
15:12.49ImperiosMy friend (who's a Tyranid fanboy) once pointed that they cannot lose because they reuse and absorb all their dead forces
15:12.51MonetI'd say the two primary beings at fault for everything are the Necrontyr and the Eldar.
15:13.07ImperiosMeaning that they lose very little even if they fail at devouring a planet
15:13.09OluapPlayersheerk
15:13.11OluapPlayershrek
15:13.12WormyWasn't it Eldar decadence?
15:13.14HachimanNah Old Ones and C'tan
15:13.15OluapPlayerGork, Mork and Shrek
15:13.17Primiusomg
15:13.18Primiuswar
15:13.20Primiuswat*
15:13.23ImperiosShrek is an orc god
15:13.26Primiustyranids suk
15:13.26HachimanWell Old Ones and Necrontyr
15:13.27ImperiosMakes sense hur
15:13.44ImperiosOld Ones, Necrontyr, Eldar, and humans are to blame
15:13.49HachimanJah
15:13.58HachimanOrks are just coming along for the free ride
15:14.08ImperiosOluapPlayer: They should paint the galaxy red instead
15:14.16PrimiusXD hur hur hur
15:14.20HachimanFastest galaxy
15:14.22OluapPlayerSo it spins faster
15:14.24Primiuswat
15:14.31MonetNecrontyr because it gave the C'Tan a way to more effectively kill every single thing in the galaxy (and seed humanity with the pariah gene), and the Eldar because they orgied a Chaos God into existence, thus blanketing the galaxy in the most massive warp storm in history.
15:14.34ImperiosSonichammer 40,000
15:14.39Primiuspainting a galaxy red makes it spin faster?
15:14.43ImperiosYes
15:14.46Primiuswat
15:14.48Primiushao
15:14.51ImperiosDid you not know it ya git
15:14.53ImperiosHow?
15:14.59ImperiosBecausw WAAAAAAAGH
15:15.02ImperiosWAAAAAAAGH
15:15.04PrimiusXD
15:15.06PrimiusCRY
15:15.08PrimiusCCRRYY
15:15.10OluapPlayerOrk way of destroying the Tyranids = paint the galaxy red, it spins so fast it becomes a saw, killing anyone who touches it
15:15.16Hachimanolol
15:15.18PrimiusCUUUHRY
15:15.38HachimanI also heard an interesting theory that the Old Ones, who created the Eldar and the Orks' ancestors in order to fight the C'tan and the Necrons, left the galaxy after the Enslaver Plague happened and either created the Tyranids to starve the Chaos Gods and C'tan via killing everybody or voluntarily became the Tyranids themselves
15:15.48ImperiosOluapPlayer: That sounds like somwthing from Gurren Lagann
15:16.00HachimanFunny cuz the Anti-Spiral uses galaxies as saws
15:16.11OluapPlayerInfinty Big Bang Storm
15:16.14OluapPlayerInfinity even
15:16.20ImperiosHachiman: ...This makes a lot of sense if you consider that the Tyranids are the 40k equivalent of the Lizardmen...
15:16.37Primiusis a Primius
15:16.40HachimanI actually consider them the 40k equivalent to the Ogre Kingdoms
15:17.16ImperiosWell their design and strategy are more similar to the Lizardmen, while their modus operandi is pretty Ogre-like
15:17.37ImperiosThat and the Great Maw sounds a lot like Tyranid tech
15:18.10ImperiosMaybe the Ogres are a species of Genestealer hybrids?
15:18.14WormyXeelee and Photino Birds shoot galaxies like projectiles at each other.
15:18.39MonetI think we've may have been able to create a setting worse than 40K with Dysnomia
15:18.41Primiuswat
15:18.46ImperiosSure they have free will
15:18.50PrimiusGalaxies being shot?
15:18.56HachimanMonet: You haven't read 50k
15:19.09MonetI remember you talking about it
15:19.12ImperiosBut keep in mind that Genestealers have to survive for a long time without the Hive Mind
15:19.18HachimanGenestealer Cults need significance again I tell you, Genestealers are just so badass
15:19.24ImperiosMeaning that they have minds of their own
15:20.24HachimanThere needs to be a Genestealer faction that opposes the Tyranids
15:20.25HachimanI remember the Realm of the Fathers in 60k - an alliance of spacefaring Genestealer Cults that grew due to the absence of Tyranids
15:20.36MonetI mean, the only protagonsit empire that still survives is the Draconid Imperium and  its highest leadership is a band of extremists and hedonists with the strength and presence of greater demons.
15:21.29MonetTHat's like ascending every member of the High Lords of Terra to Daemon Princehood.
15:21.41OluapPlayerGoddamn there's nothing to do anywhere
15:21.52HachimanExcept the High Lords are useless hur
15:23.04WormyPrimius:  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xeelee&diff=582311113&oldid=582311042
15:23.17OluapPlayerNothing to do on the wiki, nothing to do on steam
15:24.54ImperiosHachiman: Genestealers are ugly hur
15:24.59Primius[11:18] <Wormy> Xeelee and Photino Birds shoot galaxies like projectiles at each other. Really?
15:25.57MonetGalaxies are like specks ot these powers
15:26.08Primiuswow
15:28.17dromI am back.
15:28.20Primiushi drom
15:28.35HachimanTengen Toppa Gurren Lagann and the Anti-Spiral also used galaxies as weapons
15:28.36HachimanOr the Anti-Spiral did at least
15:29.01HachimanTTGL attacked the Anti-Spiral with a drill that was as large, if not larger, than the size of the observable universe
15:29.53HachimanImperios: SMs have tiny heads so don't complain bout Genestealers hur
15:30.05HachimanGenestealers are just so damn badass
15:30.08ImperiosWell SMs are even uglier hur
15:30.26ImperiosMy favourite human faction is the Inquisition, really
15:30.34dromStuff (not counting any form of bodies native to the space) that's bigger than a red giant is irrelevant.
15:31.02WormyXeelee warfare was extreme but in other way.  The galaxies weren't travelling at FTL, that wouldn't increase their momentum.  Fired instead at ultra-relativistic velocities in a warfare lasting billions of years (but not to their minds)
15:31.04GhelHello.
15:31.08dromHello
15:31.10Wormyhi
15:31.12PrimiusHi Ghel
15:32.31HachimanEh the Imperial Guard are far more diverse than the Inquisition and the SMs
15:33.08HachimanThey're also the easiest army to base a theme around
15:33.11dromWhat is the subject now?
15:33.21Wormycosmic badassery
15:34.17dromThat sounds completely irrelevant to me.
15:35.32HachimanIrrelevant or illogical?
15:35.55dromFor me, it's both.
15:37.00ImperiosYeah
15:37.14ImperiosI like the IG and the Inquisition ya
15:37.19GhelIrrelevant? Well if you don't care about it, you don't have to talk about it.
15:37.53WormyMost of us are geeks as well as nerds.
15:38.02Primiusslike me
15:38.05Primiuslike*
15:41.54ImperiosHmmmm
15:42.00dromTalking about irrelevance and lack of logic. It depends on the size, content, infomation and why is that so badass in a cosmic scale.
15:42.06ImperiosWhat kind of names do Koldenweltian Drakes have
15:42.17HachimanI like how one Tau Ethereal held a party for a bunch of Necrons for driving away Tyranids and proceeded to get absolutely slaughtered
15:42.22OluapPlayerWhatever names we want
15:42.47OluapPlayerbored as shit in here, I'm gonna try working on a solo fiction
15:43.46Monetdrom: Good point. Although for some people, there's not much explaination needed as to why its cool. Buzzsaw galaxies for instance; you have the teeth-like arm ends, it spins and it does look like a buzzsaw blade.
15:44.07MonetSOme badassery requires tossing away some sense of cold logic for the appeal.
15:44.10WormyIts quite difficult I guess for someone new to these fictional universes.
15:44.38WormyThe Xeelee Sequence is a firm-to hard science fiction universe and has quite a lot of realism
15:44.54dromNot every universes have the same "laws of physic" as ours.
15:44.54WormyThough it has some fictional elements so its not super-hard
15:45.22WormyBut well-explained
15:46.10WormyThe Xeelee Sequence has some of the strongest cosmic badasses of all
15:46.25Wormywhile still remaining a bit believable
15:46.53WormyI was noting that both the Xeelee and Anti-spirals were badass but in completely different ways
15:47.04dromIt's also because we don't know *everything* about our universe.
15:47.14WormyFormer being Hard SF and the latter running on anime physics
15:48.00OluapPlayerThe Anti-Spiral is a badass because he's really cool villain and also because he's a space god who can make a mecha larger than the observable universe with a snap of his fingers
15:48.48MonetActual galaxies colliding is a lot less solid than buzzsaws colliding.,But part of the fun is you're getting two MASSIVe objects that LOOK like buzzsaws smashing against something even bigger
15:48.58WormyThe Xeelee are badass because they were born just after the Big Bang, have engineered the universe in their war against the Photino Birds, dark matter lifeforms choking the stars.
15:49.49OluapPlayerI didn't really expect much from the Anti-Spiral at first because he kinda looks like a sickly Slender Man with a face in appearance
15:49.56OluapPlayerBut then he used a Big Bang as a laser
15:50.18WormyThey fling galaxies not with giant drills and at STL speeds but that in itself is badass when you have a war the age of the universe unfolding with minds that perceive time differently.
15:50.55HachimanLet's not forget that the Big Bang laser was then converted into energy for the TTGL by a certain LAZENGANN OVERLOOOOAAAAAAD
15:51.20OluapPlayerLordgenome absorbs a Big Bang with his sheer baldness and arm folding
15:51.35WormyOr when humans in the Xeelee Sequence tapped into the energy of a collapsing universe in their last fight with the Xeelee and still lost!
15:51.41dromWhy does STL sounds like "slower than light"?
15:52.23WormyHumankind's final fight against the Xeelee was damn awesome but still futile
15:52.46WormyLuckily they showed us some compassion and gave us a second chance
15:54.00Monetdrom: That's what STL is
15:54.46dromI feel somewhat guility for laughing now.
15:54.52Hachimanhur
15:57.13HachimanI think it's kinda funny how a hard sci-fi franchise, the Xeelee Sequence, and a rule of cool-based anime, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, has managed to achieve perhaps some of the largest scale battles and inventions in the history of human media
15:57.46WormyIndeed, true achievements to both.
15:58.29WormyCrazy thing is, the Xeelee aren't even the biggest race in the Xeelee Sequence
15:58.45HachimanOh?
15:58.57drom"A Xeelee nightfighter is a type of spacecraft made by the xeelee. It is made of space time defects, and uses cosmic string and domain walls. It also functions with a discontinuity drive, hyperdrive, and is armed with a starbreaker weapon."
15:59.10dromSounds like a tier-U/1 over there.
15:59.27OluapPlayeridunno I think the fictionverse has the potential of surpassing both the Xeelee and TTGL in terms of largest scale battles
15:59.47Monetdrom: They are rated as such on the tier scale.
16:00.19MonetOluapPLayer: Except we don't really see much of reality beyond a few neighbour universes and the first gig
16:00.42OluapPlayerHence potential
16:01.16WormyHachiman:  The Monads and Timelike Infinity (if it existed) http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Types_of_civilisation#Godrace_.28Tier_0.29
16:01.28HachimanI imagine that if TTGL was set in the Sporewikiverse, it would run off Chaos rather than Spiral Energy
16:01.36OluapPlayerProbably
16:01.38WormyThe Photino Birds too out-massed them
16:01.43OluapPlayerActually no
16:01.48dromMonet: I had wrong. The tier system manual says that the Xeelee is an example of a tier-0.
16:01.54OluapPlayerElemental energy is closer to Spiral energy than Chaos
16:02.08HachimanAh makes sense
16:02.36HachimanYeah you're right actually hur
16:03.46MonetHmm
16:06.11OluapPlayerHere's a sneak peak of what I'm working on
16:06.19OluapPlayer"Errr - Each day I have to spend listening to these simpletons' whining, I die a little more inside."
16:07.12HachimanTomoko Errr
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16:07.26WormyIf anyone's interested in the Monads and the origins of the Xeelee, someone has kindly ripped it http://www.deviantart.com/journal/The-Xeelee-are-Beautiful-246474747
16:07.35OluapPlayerI'm doing something not seen very often: trying to make the Grox look threatening
16:07.57Hachimanyey
16:08.01Technobliteratorgrox?
16:10.40WormyThis also logs the later history http://www.e-reading.ws/chapter.php/148154/44/Baxter_-_Vacuum_Diagrams.html
16:11.53dromThe Alpha Centauri (Civ game) develop a technology tier that appears to start at 5-6 and ends between 3 and 2.
16:11.59dromBut you have no space ships.
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16:12.28Wormy"Baryonic life was scattered, smashed, its resources wasted — largely by humanity — on absurd, failed assaults against the Xeelee."
16:12.32dromWell, I'm probably wrong.
16:13.00WormyThe Xeelee universe is in a way very grimdark
16:13.04HachimanAye
16:13.35OluapPlayerWhy were humans at war with the Xeelee again?
16:13.53MonetWel ltwo main reasons
16:13.58Monet1) Xeelee were there
16:14.21Monet2) Humans thought the Xeelee were accellerating the life cycles of stars and causing supernovae.
16:15.12MonetIt was a misunderstanding really
16:15.42HachimanTurns out the Photino Birds were doing it and the Xeelee were fighting them
16:15.45OluapPlayerSo humans fucked up and got their asses kicked for it
16:15.58HachimanJah
16:16.23OluapPlayerI'm not veyr surprised
16:16.56dromBecause humans being humans.
16:17.38WormyOluap:  A part of "Secret Hisatory" http://pastie.org/private/zjihuo0vdm9bivhgyeeia
16:17.47Technobliteratoreveryone hates humans
16:18.03Technobliteratorbasically every FF game has a new story about why humans suck for new reasons
16:19.02HachimanThis is why I wish I was an animal, so I could frolic all day without being judged and living in freedom and being able to lick my balls all day without anybody batting an eye
16:19.05MonetOluapPLayer: Not entirely funnily enough
16:19.21Technobliteratorhumans are animals
16:19.26MonetDespite the hard slog of a war humanity DI push the Xeelee back to the core region of the Mily Way
16:19.40MonetDID*
16:19.53OluapPlayerNeed to do chores
16:20.03WormyHumanity wasn't all bad in the Xeelee Sequence, they were fallible and subject to a terrible error.
16:20.14HachimanAnd then the Xeelee trapped them in a pocket universe
16:20.53WormyThough they left an escape hatch, so future humans would escape to a new universe constructed entirely for them
16:21.48WormyExultant era humanity was bad
16:21.49MonetTechno: I think "humans are animals" is a bit of a harsh way of putting it.
16:22.04WormyThey exterminated most of the Millky Way of life
16:22.09MonetYeah we suck but we do good things too
16:22.59Technobliteratorthere is nothing that separates us from animals
16:23.08Technobliteratorother than our cognitive abilities
16:23.15WormyIn fact reading stories from around the Exultant era makes you want to hate humanity
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16:24.27FlashduckHeyo
16:24.29WormySpecifically, I think what humans have that is unique to them is a criteria for creativity and criticism, capable of new modes of thinking and the growth of knowledge.
16:24.57MonetWhile i'm not saying we are superior to most animals, I do think that there is *something* special and redeeming about us
16:25.04WormyThings like tool-use, and language, while complex in us, does not make us stand out.
16:25.11MonetLook at the art we can produce, the stories we ca ncreate.
16:25.23HachimanEh dolphins are better
16:25.37WormyBut our ability to develop new tools, and ever more universal languages, is unique to us.
16:26.24Technobliteratorsure, we have redeeming qualities, no arguments there
16:26.25MonetALso I'm not sure how many animals are as ecologically minded as we are
16:26.28Technobliteratorwe still suck overall
16:26.40HachimanMonet: Animals don't destroy their own environments
16:26.42HachimanSo yeah
16:26.56MonetYeWell...
16:27.26HachimanI reckon if mankind was to ever leave Earth in a good state, assuming they're still around, it's likely dolphins would inherit our place as an advanced, complex society
16:28.13MonetSay there's an explosion in the size of a wolf pack, what does the pack most likely to do? Move elsewhere or keep hunting until there's nothing left *then* move on?
16:28.17WormyI don't know about that.  I'm not denying their intelligence, but they may never change.
16:28.35WormyIn terms of society or tool making
16:28.44Wormyor better ways to understand the universe
16:29.26HachimanWormy: Well we're actually domesticating dolphins and teaching stuff like language to them, captivated dolphins have at least some understanding of interspecies language
16:29.28WormyRemember, even though human beings have criteria for creativity and criticism, we have hardly used them.  Our history is full of examples where they were even rejected.
16:30.22MonetAs hard as it is to believe, animals can destroy a local environment. Rats and rabbits brought to Austrailia for instance, and when a grasshopper population gets too large they mutate into locusts and the whole swarm moves across a region eating everything in sight.
16:30.33HachimanHmm true
16:30.35WormyI reckon its something that might be rare in the universe.
16:31.46MonetAlthough admittedly rats and rabbits might never have gotten to Australia without human intervention but then again if there was a way to get to austrailia naturally what would stop them?
16:32.30Technobliteratordolphins have no arms or hands
16:32.34Technobliteratorthat's kind of a huge problem
16:32.35MonetSOrry for the rant
16:33.04WormyJo:  Its part of the reason, though Dolphins have been shown to use tools
16:33.21WormyBut as I said, tool use itself is not a good marker here
16:33.30WormyIt is often said that humans are violent animals as well
16:33.50WormyBut murder rates in humans are much lower than many other animals.
16:34.28MonetWhile I am not 100% keen on humanocentrism, pleople saying animals are better because they don't X or Y is like saying the Romans were a better civilisation because they didn't understand chemistry as we do.
16:34.39WormyI agree
16:35.39HachimanI'm still certain that our dolphin overlords will one day develop the means to construct their own tools and overthrow Mankind
16:35.40WormyAt the same time, I reject pessimistic attitudes to humanity and civilisation, and even the view that life and intelligence is insignificant.
16:36.02SporeraptorMonet: Agreed
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16:36.11HachimanWell, either it's dolphins that'll inherit our place or octopi
16:36.13Sporeraptorhi
16:36.20HachimanOctopi are scarily intelligent
16:36.22Sporeraptoror corvids
16:36.26Technobliteratorall our problems would be solved by a single thing
16:36.29Technobliteratorhave Kefka irl
16:36.41Hachimannon
16:36.48Technobliteratorlight of judgement fools all day then everyone stfus
16:37.06MonetU want a god-Joker to be real?
16:38.07WormyYou know what I've speculated will overtake mankind?
16:38.16HachimanMachines?
16:38.50MonetI'd say its like the Sniper says: "As long as theire is more than two peopel on the planet ,someone is going to want someone dead"
16:39.03WormyAlmost.  Some kind of emergent process from our technology/civilisation/activities that would depend on us as we depend on genes, but becomes ultimately the new force of change.
16:39.22WormyLike memes
16:39.33Wormyor swarm intelligences
16:39.42Wormybut much more emergent than that
16:40.03HachimanSo cats will rule over Mankind?
16:40.28Wormyemergent cat-like cats
16:42.58WormyMonet, Hachi, the film Pi has this theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShdmErv5jvs
16:44.19Wormyabout 1 minute in
16:50.45ImperiosHachiman: I approve
16:52.31WormyI for one, will welcome our Shrek overlords
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16:53.48CyrannianHello.
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17:00.03Wormyhi
17:00.32WormySo many green nicks
17:00.40Wormythis channel is shreked
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17:05.30GhelHello.
17:05.46HachimanSPU
17:05.49Hachimanwoops caps
17:05.51HachimanHai Ghel
17:06.51WormyNever seen youtube quality so high https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arv52SF8qTI
17:06.59WormyHi
17:08.09Imperios_Hi
17:12.16Sporeraptorback, hi
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17:12.57The_RandomnessHello
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17:13.46Imperios_кшеу
17:13.47Imperios_Rite
17:13.50Imperios_Lemme add that eye dude
17:14.32Wormyhttp://www.locusmag.com/News/2010/09/trilobite-named-in-honor-of-baxter/
17:17.19MonetI'm curious, what would other factions' or leaders' opinions be of the secret DI bases on Earth?
17:17.36MonetOr what would they think of the Imperium for installing them?
17:18.35WormyI don't know what Arnbjørn would think
17:18.47The_RandomnessWhat's this?
17:18.48dromIt's pretty fasicnating to see how your marines preform in battle via the adventure editor
17:18.54WormyThough Terrans might be used to the idea by now of Precursors in their history.
17:19.37MonetThe_Randomness: Secret DI research outposts on Earth.
17:19.46The_RandomnessAh
17:20.04MonetIm wondering what others would think of these
17:20.12The_RandomnessThat just reminded me of Star Trek: Insurrection
17:20.55dromhttp://i.imgur.com/8HOq9LU.png
17:21.28WormyWait is it spelled Arnbjørn or Arnbjörn?
17:21.47WormyPrime Minister of the Fjord League
17:21.59dromThe latter is swedish/finnish(?)
17:22.14dromThe first is common for norwegian and danish names.
17:22.43XhoStill pronounced similarly though
17:22.48dromYep.
17:23.00WormyI think he is Danish
17:23.03WormyI'll check
17:23.20dromBut people conjugate it in a different
17:23.24dromway
17:25.16dromConjugated that the ö sounds more like "ooo"
17:25.59WormyI should probably talk to you and Jepardi (? or is it someone-else) about expanding the Fjord League page.
17:26.54Imperios_Xho: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140416172640/spore/images/3/3d/Eage_Searwes.png Have a servant
17:27.07XhoCaligaduro - gud
17:27.12CyrannianQuite a lot of races on the wiki seem to have a past with precursors come to think of it.
17:27.14dromI guess it was Angrybirds who was one of "them".
17:27.24dromOh hai there Cyra
17:27.38Imperios_Cyrannian: The legacy of the precursors is a major SporeWiki theme, in fact
17:27.45Imperios_In a sense it reflects the SporeWiki community itself
17:27.51SporeraptorFinally finished this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Cyrannian_War/Year_One#An_Unlikely_Alliance What do you think ?
17:27.59CyrannianIt seems so, yes.
17:28.06Imperios_The old SporeWikians are slowly dying out
17:28.19Imperios_How many are left? Dino, me, Oluap, Wormy, and Xho. Just five people
17:28.44WormyArguably Cyranian as well goes in that list
17:29.06The_RandomnessI've been around for a while too :>
17:29.12XhoIf you're talking about Pre-2010 users
17:29.34WormyI remember Cyrannian's fiction on the early SSA board
17:29.44GhelI arrived in late 2009.
17:29.46CyrannianXho and I joined the wiki on the same day, or a day apart IIRC
17:29.59Imperios_rite
17:30.06Imperios_Cyrannian and Ghel too then
17:30.19WormyI lurked a bit on 2007, edited as an anonymous user in 2008 and near the end of 08 made an account.
17:30.32The_RandomnessI forget, when did I become active?
17:30.56AngrybirdsHm? Wai was I pinged?
17:31.16Cyrannian<PROTECTED>
17:31.22SporeraptorThanks
17:31.28dromAngrybirds: I thought you were one of the authors of the fjord.
17:31.29GhelThe_Randomness: Late 2009 too, apparently: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Randomness?dir=prev&target=The+Randomness
17:31.42Imperios_Rite
17:31.44Imperios_What to do
17:31.50MonetImay be as old a user as some but under a different name and didn't do anything: Made a couple of personal fiction pages on the wiki for a few days in 2008 then left, came back for proper fiction work in 2011
17:32.45GhelThe_Randomness: Two days after me, as a matter of fact. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ghel%C3%A6?dir=prev&target=Ghel%C3%A6
17:32.49WormyTo me, the old users that stick in my mind are:  Ose, Morgoth, TimeMaster, Furby, Poeringu, Oluap, Imperios, Mason, Daxx, Zorlac, Hydromancerx, Tigress Dragonblade, Schnautzr, Cafinator and IntroiLeader
17:33.04Wormyoh and Zagorian
17:33.31HachimanImperios Imperios_: How do people usually join the Inquisition?
17:33.45Imperios_I am the human guy now hur
17:33.53Imperios_I think they are inducted in their teenage years
17:34.16The_RandomnessGhel: If only that page didn't crash my browser on mobile :<
17:34.19Imperios_From noble families with ties with the Inquisition, orphans of war, et cetera et cetera
17:34.27Hachimanrite
17:34.41Wormythen later most of you veterans come along, with Valader, FalcoPunch, BNSC, Captian Zaco, Techno, Dalucary, TyrannoFan, MasterMachine, Stuart98 and Viceman
17:34.47Wormythen the rest of you
17:34.53Wormythen the Katar users
17:34.54MonetCOmmisars and Stormtroopers are raised in a cross between a nunnery and a military academy iirc
17:34.55GhelI joined on November 8 2009; you joined on November 10.
17:35.10The_RandomnessAh
17:35.40The_RandomnessI think I only made a small edit then, and then started doing stuff a few months later.
17:35.41Imperios_Oh wait
17:35.47The_RandomnessI'll have to check sometime
17:35.49Imperios_THAT Inquisition
17:35.54Imperios_What Inquisition dammit
17:35.56Imperios_There are many
17:36.48HachimanAs in the Warhammer Inquisition
17:36.58Imperios_AH
17:37.00Imperios_Ah
17:37.13Imperios_From Schola Progenium I believe
17:37.29HachimanDoesn't it involve the Black Ships?
17:37.45Imperios_Well those Inquisitors that are psykers are taken from them, yes
17:37.53GhelThe_Randomness: 5 edits on November 10, then you started editing more on January 16.
17:38.02Imperios_But generally Inquisitors hire their own acolytes
17:38.08The_RandomnessAh
17:38.10Imperios_*hire their acolytes as they please
17:39.19WormyWeirdly, I can't remember Cyrannian, Dino, Xho or Valader before the Tigris Wart
17:39.30Imperios_Hi Oluap
17:39.42WormyI don't think I payed much attention to fiction before then.
17:39.53The_Randomnesswb
17:40.05CyrannianI remember Oluap because he moved the Mortalitas page when I asked him to. <3
17:41.03OluapPlayerGo die you pig
17:41.04WormyI remember early attempts to appease OLuap after Timemaster tried to get me blocked.
17:41.41OluapPlayerHachiman Xho Technobliterator Monet Imperios_: can you all rp right now?
17:41.42Imperios_Hm
17:41.48Imperios_Strangely, yes
17:41.52Imperios_I can RP
17:41.53TechnobliteratorI can
17:41.57HachimanI can yeah
17:42.03CyrannianI don't really remember anyone else apart from Oluap in my early days until I became involved in fiction.
17:42.21MonetOluapPLayer: I think I have time
17:42.37OluapPlayerXho: dam u get in heer
17:46.55Imperios_If Xho does not come we could do my stoof
17:47.10Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Um2k9/Archive_1#Invitation_for_collaboration - My first messages on the wiki
17:47.32Technobliteratorwho the fuck coded that
17:47.33Technobliterator._.
17:47.52Technobliteratoroh
17:47.54Technobliteratorit was val
17:47.56OluapPlayerI want to get Year 6 done so no, we wait for him hur
17:48.05Technobliteratorand I <3 val but wtf
17:48.34Technobliteratorbrb
17:49.40MonetMy rule of thumb for conundrums like this: Whichever has been in development first gets higher priority.
17:49.45HachimanWormy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbuluDBHpfQ
17:49.53WormyI like how this got totally ignored http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Um2k9/Archive_1#Please.2C_to_avoid_confusion_post_comments_meant_for_the_CSA_on_there_talk_page_and_the_Cognatus_on_theirs.
17:50.02CyrannianI was about to say that :P
17:50.36OluapPlayerI usually follow something like that but I'm extremely greedy and my arc is 1 section away from ending hur
17:51.21WormyHachi:  Art
17:51.33Monet"patience is a virtue" as they say.
17:52.10Wormyfirst i thought you was sending me miley cyrus
17:53.21OluapPlayerHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ucfez0xM4
17:53.38Hachimanolol
17:53.57WormyHachi:  The Pizza was aggressive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB871SVYMhI
17:53.58OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENrSFyzOUwg followed by
17:54.35XhoOluapPlayer: dafuq u want
17:54.45OluapPlayerThat video is my current reaction to Xho's dedness
17:55.12Xhodo i look currently ded to u
17:55.13OluapPlayeru kill vorius nao
17:55.29OluapPlayer#IceAgeStoof git in here u lot
17:55.51Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Realities_Altered/Dysnomia/Reign_Of_The_Bloodlord#A_Just_Reward warning this is a bit unpleasant
17:56.17OluapPlayerHachiman Technobliterator Imperios_: git
17:57.23Technobliteratorwat
17:57.42Technobliteratorno bot
17:57.44Technobliterator0/10
17:57.46OluapPlayerHachiman: i will cut you
17:57.59MonetPLease stop bringing up the bots
18:02.41Xhohttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140416180127/spore/images/7/7b/ImperatorKalarah.png Updated his appearance again
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18:04.46Cyrannianbai guise xx :*
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18:05.11drom"However Claire is a infobox infobox warrior"
18:05.39XhoImperios_: What did we settle on for the definition of 'Kalarah' in Undertongue
18:05.52Imperios_"Asshole"
18:06.04Imperios_Hey it fits
18:06.12Xhohur
18:06.22Imperios_Seriously though
18:06.34Imperios_Kalarah, let me think
18:07.18Imperios_I actually realised that "Kal Ara" would mean "Excrement Armenian" in Russian
18:08.30Imperios_How about that
18:08.43Xhoget srs nub
18:08.53Imperios_Kala-Rah: The Colossus's Scion
18:08.57Imperios_Scion of the Colossus
18:13.28Sporeraptorbye
18:15.34XhoSo I guess 'Kala' would also refer to Caligaduro
18:15.36XhoOr 'Rah'
18:18.03Imperios_Kala
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18:45.25Imperios_OluapPlayer: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140416171345/spore/images/2/29/Earth_Drake.png I remade the Earth Drakes
18:45.34Imperios_http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140416171402/spore/images/d/d3/Volcanic_Earth_Drake.png Also gave them new colourw
18:45.41Imperios_http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140416171317/spore/images/5/5a/Amethyst_Earth_Drake.png
18:45.57OluapPlayerThey look pretty good
18:57.00WormyCeltic metal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjqIMSScRXg
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19:09.45Chantal71We have a problem.
19:09.50Chantal71http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Toriel
19:10.08Chantal71This n00b made that article while the servers are trying to catch up.
19:10.15Chantal71Now, no one can delete it.
19:14.54Chantal71...
19:19.48WormyI moved it instead.
19:20.45WormyHm, yes, the server does seem to be slow.
19:20.58Wormybut it isn't a problem
19:21.04Chantal71That thing seems to come from a n00b game called Undertale.  Whoever did that was likely attempting a raid.
19:21.54WormyI'll keep an eye out.
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19:24.46WormyEspecially when the servers come back properly.
19:24.47The_RandomnessHello
19:24.48WormyHi
19:25.56WormyAnyone here have experience with bump maps?
19:26.12WormyI want to make 3D models out of my geology fieldtrips.
19:26.57The_RandomnessI do not, that sounds like much higher level stuff than what I'm doing right now.
19:27.09The_RandomnessThat is, introductory programming
19:29.44Imperiosright now ded
19:32.24Chantal71Bye.  I hope Whoriel gets removed.
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19:33.05DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
19:33.14The_RandomnessHello
19:38.25The_RandomnessI'll be back in a bit
19:38.35WormyOh well, basically I want a 3D map and cross-section, which can be done with bump map textures, buty i want accurate dip and strike measurements and elevations.  So the program's greyscale detection would need tweaking
19:38.41Wormyand hes gone
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19:55.12Hachiman_So yeah as I was saying
19:55.18Hachiman_Dolphins are gonna take over the world
19:55.26OluapPlayerur a dolphin
19:55.41Hachiman_They are intelligent and practically have a basic society already
19:56.20Hachiman_They have coherent language, names, social groups and families, can understand other species
20:01.52WormyThey and their ancestors have lived like that for tens of millennia.
20:02.47Wormyin fact, no, 1 millennium is not a million
20:03.52Hachiman_A millennium is 1,000 years hur
20:05.05WormyI've always despised the fact it is.
20:05.20Hachiman_https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10173536_747551321945743_3875799239743659311_n.jpg
20:05.22DrodoEmpireWormy: How come? :P
20:05.41WormyIt seems much more suited to megayears.
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20:06.40DrodoEmpirePerhaps; I guess you really just need to see the sourceword (which is probably from latin) to know why it is 1000 instead of a million. :P
20:06.43WormyI'm sure etymologists or whatever studies these things would pick holes in my reason.
20:07.16DrodoEmpireThough to be honest I find that millenium standing in for 1000 years is likely more practical then for a million in most cases
20:07.43DrodoEmpireJust speech-wise seeing as we likely talk more about 1000's then millions of things
20:09.31Wormy<PROTECTED>
20:09.56Wormycentennium?
20:10.44Wormycentennium = century
20:11.23Wormydamnit we need Imperios during crises like this.
20:15.36dromIf we hold each other's hands and form like a ring. We might summon Imperios out from his sleep.
20:17.15Hachiman_Stress can alter the RNA in sperm and cause a heightened chance of depression in future generations
20:17.38dromAnd we can do the same when we have to summon Hachi, but we have to raise our dongers too.
20:17.40Wormycreates a pentagon out of Drom, DrodoEmpire, Hachiman , Monet and Ghelaway
20:17.43OluapPlayerNo wonder Kez is so angry
20:18.07Wormy~chant
20:18.07infobotgreat googli-moogli! great googli-moogli! great googli-moogli!
20:18.30Wormy~summon Sleeperios
20:18.31infobotapt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing Sleeperios's coordinates
20:19.07drom>some extra hands
20:19.13dromIs he/she from Belgium?
20:19.47Wormy~where are you from
20:19.47infobotright diddily-dodelly here!
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20:19.55MonetImperios is from St. Petersberg
20:19.59Sporeraptorhi
20:20.21WormyI can conclude that Infobot is Ned Flanders or his disciple.
20:20.48dromMonet: I actually related to this. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Souvenirs_(Polandball).png
20:23.45Hachiman_http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110918165551/starwars/images/a/a6/Darksaber-SWE.jpg Okay so this is awesome
20:24.24Hachiman_Didn't know it was a lightsaber, I thought it was perhaps a Mandalorian equivalent but turns out it's an actual lightsaber
20:26.10Hachiman_It apparently draws in the light around it, which produces a white aura around the black blade
20:26.16Hachiman_Well, black plasma
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20:27.57Hachiman_hai Imp
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20:30.14WormyImperios:  I summoned you
20:32.50WormyImperios:  Milli in Latin is a thousand.  I think centena milia is Latin for a million.  So would centennium = a million years?  I looked it up and it means a century.  What would be a million year equivilient to millenium?
20:33.03Wormyin Latin
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20:39.37The_RandomnessHello
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20:41.43Sporeraptor_hi
20:41.43PrimiusHi there :3
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20:46.16dromTook me some good time to write this. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Cyrannian_War/Year_One/Southern_Rim_Campaign#New_Power
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20:57.57Sporeraptor_hello
21:01.26SimarsHello
21:08.33Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aNe2qRw_460sa.gif
21:09.10Hachiman_I love that gif
21:09.52PrimiusLOL
21:10.23Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aLKNbGV_460sa.gif Annoyed Cyrannian
21:10.58Primiuslel
21:11.18MonetDinosaur - I'm so mad my breathing is squashing my face
21:11.35PrimiusXd
21:11.37PrimiusXD*
21:12.07PrimiusLadybug - ... WHAT THE HELL FUCK OH SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT
21:12.08PrimiusXD
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21:13.54AdmiralPandahi all
21:13.59OluapPlayerohi
21:14.06Primiusho
21:14.31AdmiralPandaOluapPlayer: apart from being technically dead, does Norrigan actually have any powers?
21:15.00OluapPlayerHe can use lightning spears
21:15.45AdmiralPandathat it? the reason I'm asking is I'm tempted to make Bastion a full-on paladin and keep the weapon soul idea for another character
21:16.12OluapPlayerYes
21:19.58WormyI might do some fiction tonight
21:20.42Primiuscol
21:20.45Primiuscool*
21:20.46WormyI wonder...  Endosymbiosis, Station Halcyon, Temporal Warfare, Trials of Kilnok (start) or Thal Wars?
21:21.10AdmiralPandaendosym
21:21.19WormyCool
21:21.55WormyYes I have some more cool sciency ideas, like visualising what it would be like to be a creature capable of relativistic travel
21:22.13WormyBut not much plot to build it yet
21:27.06PrimiusMabye a collab with me?
21:28.36WormyMaybe
21:33.30GhelHello.
21:33.51Sporeraptor_hi
21:35.43Primiushoy
21:40.38Sporeraptor_bye
21:41.00Wormyhello
21:42.01WormyOne thing I'm wondering about in Endosymbiosis.  Could tachyonic and relativistic bioship organisms coexist, or would predator tachyonic organisms have long out-competed them?
21:43.57GhelThat depends on how exactly the FTL travel works. If it takes less energy to jump to FTL than it does to reach ~c speeds, then the FTL organisms should have a huge advantage.
21:47.33GhelIn the classical-physics case where we can have literal tachyonic organisms, the issue would be how practical it is for the tachyonic organisms to switch between FTL and sublight speeds, since that's the only way the two niches would be able to significantly affect each other.
21:48.56WormyOkay, that gives me an idea
21:49.42WormyPerhaps the advantage gap isn't so wide naturally in the biosphere.  But in the story, we have our kaluzatrophs
21:51.31WormyPerhaps the tachyonic organisms get tweaked a little, to have hypermatter powered drives.  While it still uses more energy, I get the sense that the kaluza-trophs would make it less of an effort for the tachyonic creatures
21:54.58The_Randomnessis back
21:55.08WormyThe real challenge will be to visualise what it is like to be such an organism.  I know what it might look like from a magical outside spacetime perspective
21:55.28Wormybut inside...
21:56.07Ghel~give The_Randomness a cookie
21:56.07infobotACTION gives The_Randomness a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up.
21:56.16The_Randomnessnoms the cookie
21:56.53Primius~give everyone a cookie
21:56.54infobotACTION gives everyone a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up.
21:58.54Primiusgives Admiral a cookie. "Hi~"
22:00.19Hachiman_He just left
22:01.03Primiuso
22:01.08Primiusthot he joined
22:01.10Primiushur
22:10.56GhelI'm going to go now. Bye!
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22:14.28TekDroidHello
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22:16.52DrodoEmpireBack. :P
22:20.28Primiushoi u 2
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22:23.19PrimiusHi LI
22:23.21TekDroidHello Liquid
22:23.30TekDroidBelated hello DrodoEmpire
22:25.24Liquid_InkHellos
22:27.42Technobliteratortime up soon I may as well leave now
22:27.44Technobliteratorbye!
22:29.37TekDroid~test
22:29.37infobotwell, test is not funny
22:29.54TekDroidDamn, I'm lagging
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22:34.11MillisecHello all! How have you been?
22:35.36PrimiusGood
22:35.42Millisechttp://imgur.com/3PR1KG7
22:38.20DrodoEmpireMillisec: Nice Draconis model so far! Also, hello
22:39.55MillisecHi! Thanks!
22:41.18DrodoEmpireSo anyway, I might have to restart the EUIV project, considering I don't even know what's wrong anymore with my original project. :L Might as well start from scratch and do everything in a better order next time
22:41.41DrodoEmpireIf anyone's interested or wondering
22:42.51DrodoEmpireSeeing as the big problem is the technology groups, and I think the issue resides in the fact I implemented everything backwards; My first reference of the tech group was I think put in before I wrote in its properties and whatnot and basically made it exist in the proper folder
22:43.17DrodoEmpireThat's all I can think of in terms of an issue
22:45.28MonetMillisec: I like it, he looks a little sad though
22:45.33MillisecI don't understand what you're talking about
22:45.40MonetCould be the light angle.
22:45.42MillisecReally? It's the same one you saw
22:45.47MonetI know it is
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22:52.16DrodoEmpireHey
22:52.57AdmiralPandahi
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22:58.59AngrydroidHey guys
22:59.23MillisecHai
23:00.25DrodoEmpireHey
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23:01.10DrodoEmpire~wake up drom|sleep
23:01.10infobotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up drom|sleep and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
23:01.20DrodoEmpirewhoops
23:02.07DrodoEmpireAnyway, I feel like I should add some to the Culture section of the Drodo page; Probably something about diet and cuisine
23:03.45AdmiralPandathat could be interesting
23:03.52AdmiralPandanot really something you think about
23:04.46DrodoEmpireYeah, I suppose; Would give me a break from writing military sections though. :P
23:05.20MonetMight be interesting to see what they eat
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23:06.44DrodoEmpireohgodwat
23:06.46DrodoEmpirewaat
23:08.00AdmiralPandaget shrekd
23:08.09DrodoEmpirehur
23:08.25Hachiman_wat up mah ogre
23:11.44MillisecNOH
23:11.49MillisecNEVER
23:15.26Millisec...
23:20.18TekDroidIs the wiki slow for anyone else?
23:20.29WormyYeah, its the servers
23:29.06DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire#Culture - Done
23:29.36DrodoEmpireI go to write a paragraph or two, I end up redoing the entire section. XD
23:32.03DrodoEmpireSo yeah, tell me what you think.
23:33.05AdmiralPandaHats are generally of importance in Drodo cultures. < you have made TF2: The species
23:33.16MonetAn Imperial soldier suggests contaminating Republic kolto tanks with Rakghoul virus...thats jsut evil.
23:33.51DrodoEmpireAdmiral: hur
23:35.16MonetFor those wh odon't know, kolto is like that blue stuff Luke is suspended in in Star Wars
23:35.24MonetLike, but not exact
23:35.30DrodoEmpireBut yeah, I got that idea seeing as I myself wear a hat (several, actually), and when you think about it; Today and the last I guess few decades are one of the few times in history where hats weren't regularly worn or super-popular. :P
23:35.57DrodoEmpireMonet: Right, Luke was in Bacta. :P Wasn't Kolto the predecessor before bacta was invented?
23:36.27MonetIt was
23:36.32DrodoEmpireAh
23:36.55MonetBefore Bacta became refined enough to be expensive
23:37.07Monetit was THE healing gel
23:37.10DrodoEmpireRight
23:37.50MonetTwo problems with Kolto though: 1) impossible to synthesise and 2) it could only be sourced from one planet in the entire galaxy.
23:38.12AdmiralPandawow, why do people use this exactly?
23:38.20DrodoEmpireKolto?
23:38.25AdmiralPandayou wouldn't be able to get enough of the stuff
23:38.33AdmiralPandaI know it's a healing gel btu seriously, that don't sound like a lot of supply
23:38.48DrodoEmpireBecause once you do get it, it was like a miracle worker. :P
23:38.50Wormyreminds me of blue goo
23:39.22MonetDrodoempire: That and until bacta got good enough, there were few chemicals like it
23:39.28DrodoEmpireRight
23:40.15MonetALthough I think during the GalacticCivil War it was still inferior to Kolto, jsut MUCH bore easily available
23:41.13AdmiralPandaalso, is this stuff re-useable?
23:41.33DrodoEmpireGalactic Civil War as in the events portrayed in the original trilogy?
23:41.42MonetDrodoempire: Yes
23:42.02DrodoEmpireHuh
23:42.27MonetAdmiralPanda: Dunno. Usual practice wasa general-purpose tank but I think it was common practice ot sanitise the tanks after each user
23:42.59TekDroidGalactic Civil War is the canon name for the war which contains the events of the original trilogy
23:44.03MonetOKay I know what happened with Kolt onow
23:44.17DrodoEmpireI can't believe I forgot that; I know when I was younger I was THE authority on Star Wars. XD
23:44.39TekDroidSame here. XD
23:44.50MonetTwo galaxy-scale wars in the space of a lifetime plus a mandalorian crusade = lots of Kolto needed.
23:44.58MonetThe stuff got horribly horribly expensive.
23:45.17TekDroidAnd war makes shipping supplies difficult
23:45.31DrodoEmpireWow, it was around for 4100 years before the Galactic Civil War and they still couldn't make bacta as good as its predecessor?
23:45.51DrodoEmpireThat would be as if we couldn't make round wheels nowadays and had to settle with ovals. XD
23:46.12TekDroidThe last millennium had a lot of decay and stagnation,  iirc
23:47.03AdmiralPandaheh that reminded me of the description of one world in the Imperium of Man; the roads had massive chains rotating like conveyor belts, and the cars didn't have wheels they just had lugs that locked into the chains
23:47.44DrodoEmpireIt did? Huh. Never heard much of that, but considering how ineffective the Republic was by the time of Episode 1 I'd be willing to believe that
23:48.03AdmiralPandanice easy way to make sure delinquents couldn't go anywhere else
23:48.12DrodoEmpireJust because of all of the stagnation politically. :P
23:48.24WormyI know a lot about Star Wars BUT SWTOR and the new Clone Wars stuff
23:48.28TekDroidIt was a sith manipulation, making it weak enough for their plots
23:48.37WormyI have a lot of catching up there
23:48.40DrodoEmpireAdmiralPanda: They could walk or use a horse. :P Or better yet import a wheeled car from another world
23:49.00MonetThe Empire had a reputation of favouring quantity over quality
23:49.41AdmiralPandaDrodo: that's the thing though- there weren't any sidewalks, and the roads were bumper-to-bumper with chain cars. it was an industrial world, there was nowhere to go except home to work to home again
23:49.48TekDroidThe Bacta issue might also simply be that it is naturally inferior to korto, and couldn't become superior
23:49.55AdmiralPandaand home was a one-and-a-half by two metre space in a dormitory
23:50.26AdmiralPandaalso nobody there is rich enough to buy a full meal let alone import a car :P
23:51.35MonetWe don't hear that much of cars in the IoM do we?
23:51.59AdmiralPandagotta love the imperium; a Throne Gelt (usually one day's wage for a labourer) will buy you some scraps of a meal, or it'll buy you a box of a hundred votive candles :P
23:53.28MonetYou get a solid job, but there's not much to do outside, what, 14 hour days?
23:53.39AdmiralPandatry 20 hour work days
23:53.47MonetAnd that's so long as the transports carrying food supplies haven't been blasted or lost in the warp.
23:54.04AdmiralPandaa lot of industrial hives go that far
23:54.25MonetWait 20 hours?
23:54.30MonetSo much for 8 hours' sleep.
23:54.31AdmiralPandayeah
23:54.42AdmiralPandathe Emperor does not sanction worker's rights :P
23:55.29AdmiralPandait's often remarked in Dan Abnett's works that the only reason most industrial hives still function is that the poor and ignorant masses somehow manage to pop out more children than die on the production lines
23:56.23TekDroidWhen you're that poor how could you even afford to have a kid? O.o
23:56.24MonetBaby's first factory overalls.
23:56.35MonetTekDroid: Look at Africa.
23:56.37AdmiralPandaTekDroid: you do it for the Emperor
23:56.51TekDroidHeck, how do they even have time to make the kid.
23:57.27MonetSomehow I feel confident many hive worlds decide to forget about child labour laws.
23:57.35AdmiralPandathe best worlds to live on (assuming you're not from a noble house) are Space Marine chapter worlds
23:57.50AdmiralPandaif you somehow survive the planet itself, you get a pretty cruisy life and you don't even have to pay taxes
23:58.11AdmiralPandaplus there's no chance of you being conscripted except to join the Space Marines
23:58.24MonetOr risk being drafted int othe Imperial Gurd
23:58.26MonetGuard*
23:58.54AdmiralPandaand yeah, child labour laws don't really exist :P
23:59.24Hachiman_IG don't draft from Chapter worlds do they?
23:59.26AdmiralPandawhat's scary is, despite how horribly inefficient the system is, the Imperium is REALLY strict about the REALLY arbitrary tithes they set to worlds
23:59.29AdmiralPandaHachi: no
23:59.39AdmiralPandathat's what I was saying
23:59.46DrodoEmpireAdmiralPanda: So... Why hasn't anyone revolted? :P Considering how overextended and stagnant the IoM is methinks one good mass-rebellion could really throw it off considering how hard it would be to respond to things like that, given the nature of the warp
23:59.58Hachiman_Because Adeptus. Arbitres.

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