| 00:02.40 | AdmiralPanda | All I'm going to say is we're better than this. There's no need for any of this negativity, all it does is hurt the community. |
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| 00:04.28 | Wormy | I think I must have pressed down on the power button this time |
| 00:07.04 | AdmiralPanda | clearly too wriggly for your own good |
| 00:08.24 | Wormy | lol |
| 00:13.33 | Monet | I feel like the current gig conflicts might be getting slightly too...predetermined |
| 00:13.39 | Monet | THen again its still early days. |
| 00:13.51 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: I know I got a few tricks up my sleeves. >:3 |
| 00:15.25 | Angrybirds | Monet: What do you mean? |
| 00:15.56 | Monet | Well people seem to be planning alleigences months in advance. |
| 00:16.22 | AdmiralPanda | Fordanta - hur we're allied with everyone :P |
| 00:17.45 | Monet | Well one example of this is i recall Cyrannian saying he pictured mroe peope lsiding with the CIS. |
| 00:18.02 | Monet | Although we've all come ot the conclusion its because the Empire is the safer bet |
| 00:19.15 | Angrybirds | Everyone loves a speculative war, though. Making a reality is even better. |
| 00:19.27 | Wormy | Most of my plans involve later events in GC, and so may evaporate |
| 00:19.28 | Tecnhodroid | Well it was the same with the Cleansing Flames, I wanted more to side with USO but since no one did, I just gave up and made USO seem more like a typical bad guy instead |
| 00:19.34 | Monet | Then again, probably not the best idea to announce in the presence of the largest empire in Cyrannus that you plan ot stand against them when you only have a few hundred systems to your name |
| 00:20.12 | Monet | Technodroid: Wait you did? |
| 00:20.19 | Tecnhodroid | Yeah |
| 00:20.34 | Wormy | The DCP and Civ needs to be allowed to make some presence in Adromeda and Cyrannus, but that requires a lot more chaos to occur |
| 00:20.38 | Tecnhodroid | I wanted it to not seem black and white, it was to be two evils going against each other |
| 00:21.11 | Tecnhodroid | No one saw it that way so I gave up the idea and just made it like one of my classic stories instead |
| 00:21.26 | AdmiralPanda | Techno: what was the second evil supposed to be? |
| 00:22.28 | Tecnhodroid | The criminals |
| 00:22.29 | Wormy | For now, my plans aren't set in stone |
| 00:22.50 | Tecnhodroid | It was tyranny - USO - vs anarchy - Billig and his lot |
| 00:23.03 | Tecnhodroid | instead Billig became the antihero guy which I don't mind |
| 00:23.07 | Wormy | If the CyraeMp shows sign of being on its knees, then the DCP might step in and say "we'll take control from now on, but you'll be safe with us" |
| 00:23.47 | OfficerJackal | That sounds like it would have been an interesting story. :( Two contrasting political ideals clashing against each other, with all the empires in Borealis and abroad taking their side. |
| 00:23.55 | Wormy | But if it doesn't, then no, the DCP is likely to stay in an alliance with the CyraEmp unless they do something aggressive |
| 00:24.59 | Tecnhodroid | That was my plan, but I guess I can steer it another direction now |
| 00:25.00 | Monet | Technodroid: Its hard to sympathyse with USO when the entire population was brainwashed as part of the Omega COmmander's grand scheme |
| 00:25.27 | Monet | People tend to gravitate towards free will |
| 00:25.45 | Tecnhodroid | The idea was that it was meant to be as hard to sympathise with a bunch of criminals that want to destroy any form of control and take anarchy |
| 00:25.58 | AdmiralPanda | Techno: The Empire would have sided with USO against Billig (but wouldn't fight anyone else) if it weren't for the mass brainwash part- that's a capital sin in the Empire |
| 00:26.09 | AdmiralPanda | that and USO cut all alliances |
| 00:26.20 | Monet | So you didn't want ot to become a black and white story by removing the white? |
| 00:26.43 | OfficerJackal | It's not that simple in the situation Techno was trying to do, some people wouldn't want the chaotic and unpredictability of anarchy ran by criminals, where you can be killed at a snap of a finger, and there is little sense of safety. Empires like the USO, while they will too, kill you at the snap of a finger, provide a false sense of safety, and are predictable. |
| 00:26.50 | Tecnhodroid | But ny mistake was not reintroducing that and saying "oh well you heard this all before with Zaarkhun and what he did so ill focus on USO" |
| 00:27.16 | Monet | And yeah as Panda just said, cutting all previous alliences tends to make you look like a prick. |
| 00:27.36 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:27.46 | OfficerJackal | Yeah, that too. |
| 00:27.51 | DrodoEmpire | That's likely why no one sided with them in the first place |
| 00:27.52 | Tecnhodroid | It was my flawed execution and making USO too over the top that resulted in it being black and white |
| 00:28.10 | Tecnhodroid | Well, they're also run by madmen... |
| 00:28.23 | DrodoEmpire | If Canada cut all alliances and invaded the US, I don't think many other countries would be on board. :P |
| 00:28.29 | Tecnhodroid | Millions of reasons to hate them really |
| 00:28.43 | OfficerJackal | Yeah, not exactly good PR when one of their top officials is screaming in Caps-Lock on the UDB "THE DESTRUCTION, I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE DESTRUCTION!" |
| 00:28.47 | AdmiralPanda | here's the Fordan perspective |
| 00:29.18 | AdmiralPanda | Fordanta - We really, REALLY want to help you stomp this little shit, but you did kinda turn your back on us, and you've taken away the free will of your people. That just don't fly with us |
| 00:29.39 | AdmiralPanda | that and Xaltsa |
| 00:30.15 | AdmiralPanda | DrodoEmpire: Canada? Invading people? |
| 00:30.31 | Monet | In a mirror universe PERHAPS |
| 00:30.44 | AdmiralPanda | actually I think that's a wonderful idea |
| 00:30.55 | AdmiralPanda | spread kindness and universal free healthcare to the world |
| 00:30.57 | Tecnhodroid | Xaltsa was meant to be insane. I did base him on Kefka after all |
| 00:30.58 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 00:32.05 | Tecnhodroid | Yogtam is the only sane one in USO and only reasonable one |
| 00:32.17 | Angrybirds | AdmiralPanda DrodoEmpire : Canada did invade Italy and Canadian troops were present at D-Day, mind you... |
| 00:32.25 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:32.45 | DrodoEmpire | And we contributed, like, an eighth of our population during the first world war. :P |
| 00:32.58 | Angrybirds | That, and 1812. |
| 00:33.09 | Tecnhodroid | No one remembers poor Canada :/ |
| 00:33.10 | DrodoEmpire | Mind you we only had barely eight million people then, but that's a lot of soldiers |
| 00:33.22 | Monet | Xaltsa and the Kralgon Emperor were kinda proof that siding with USO would have been a stupid idea. |
| 00:33.23 | AdmiralPanda | Techno: yeah, I understand that part of him. I think the best way I can describe it is to quote the Evil Overlord's Handbook: "I will keep one absolutely batshit insane advisor at all times. Mostly so I know what ideas are batshit insane and which ones aren't." |
| 00:33.57 | AdmiralPanda | Xaltsa makes a good advisor and standard for ideas, but not so much a leader or public face, imo |
| 00:34.02 | OluapPlayer | raidenbatshitinsane.wav |
| 00:34.42 | Tecnhodroid | The KE was not taken seriously and given negative feedback though, that's partly why I made Xaltsa |
| 00:34.57 | Tecnhodroid | dumbo |
| 00:35.00 | OluapPlayer | losa |
| 00:35.02 | DrodoEmpire | AB: We actually had our own beach to invade during D-Day, and we took over Vimy Ridge during the first world war when every other allied nation failed miserably |
| 00:35.11 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 00:35.15 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 00:35.34 | Monet | Yeah but the US and UK invaded two beaches |
| 00:35.41 | Monet | each |
| 00:35.46 | Tecnhodroid | Other reason I made Xaltsa was that I just finished FFVI (best game I played ever) and became a Kefka fangirl lmao |
| 00:35.57 | DrodoEmpire | So? They had bigger populations and militaries; We where a colony |
| 00:36.05 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: imfuckinginvincible.wav |
| 00:36.10 | OluapPlayer | xaltsa suks as much as yor mom |
| 00:36.21 | Tecnhodroid | ya dad suks go dai |
| 00:36.22 | DrodoEmpire | I'd say that's a pretty big acheivment for a country that had a fraction of the population of every other major power |
| 00:36.34 | OluapPlayer | USO should've done the Sundowner way and become FUCKIN INVINCIBUUUUUL |
| 00:36.47 | OluapPlayer | Even though it didn't really work with Zoltik |
| 00:36.59 | Tecnhodroid | I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE |
| 00:37.02 | AdmiralPanda | DrodoEmpire: imagine if Australia and Canada formed an alliance, that would be the most chill, most badass alliance ever |
| 00:37.08 | Hachiman | USO is actually represented by a large shit-eating grin |
| 00:37.09 | DrodoEmpire | lol, yes. |
| 00:37.10 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 00:37.13 | Tecnhodroid | I'm planning that actually :D |
| 00:37.25 | Wormy | Commonwealth? |
| 00:37.30 | Tecnhodroid | Well...not the shit eating grin part |
| 00:37.33 | Wormy | jk, I know its not much of anything |
| 00:37.38 | OluapPlayer | Zoltik's fucking invincibility was inferior to Xerkea's rage |
| 00:37.45 | OluapPlayer | Too much rage in a single housefly |
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| 00:37.57 | Wormy | Hi |
| 00:38.00 | Angrybirds | Wormy : That was entertaining. |
| 00:38.13 | OfficerJackal | Hey! |
| 00:38.23 | Tecnhodroid | Heya! |
| 00:38.24 | AdmiralPanda | wait, which faction is Canada a part of in the wikiverse? |
| 00:38.32 | Angrybirds | POTATO |
| 00:38.32 | Wormy | throws a royal family member at Angrybirds |
| 00:38.33 | OfficerJackal | POTATO, I think. |
| 00:38.35 | DrodoEmpire | POTATO... *sigh* |
| 00:38.39 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 00:38.39 | OfficerJackal | BAKED POTATO. |
| 00:38.45 | Tecnhodroid | potato |
| 00:38.45 | AdmiralPanda | this alliance must come about |
| 00:38.49 | OfficerJackal | MASHED POTATO |
| 00:38.51 | Tecnhodroid | u wot m8 |
| 00:38.56 | Monet | Xaltsa reminds me of Sander Cohen |
| 00:39.19 | Tecnhodroid | does not know who Sander Cohen is |
| 00:39.30 | Angrybirds | Pacific Overseas Territories and American Treaty Organization |
| 00:39.31 | Monet | Unfortunately Cohen also happens to be crazy to the point of dangerous liability and quite frickin' creepy as fuck |
| 00:39.46 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of frickin creepy |
| 00:39.53 | OluapPlayer | Monet: You seen the newest Ice Age section? |
| 00:40.29 | Monet | OluapPLayer: I was busy earlier so no |
| 00:40.39 | Monet | Technobliterator: http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Sander_Cohen |
| 00:40.41 | OluapPlayer | I wanted to see your reaction to it |
| 00:40.57 | Tecnhodroid | Oh yeah, bioshock guy :D |
| 00:41.15 | OluapPlayer | Bioshaq |
| 00:41.57 | Monet | Basically combine Salvidor Dali and the Joker, add a generous heap of opera house diva and then give him a nice big bag of crack cocaine. |
| 00:42.43 | Monet | Oh yeah and Cohen was at one time part of Rapture's city council. |
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| 00:43.27 | Tecnhodroid | Hey Random |
| 00:43.32 | The_Randomness | rawr |
| 00:44.10 | Wormy | eats Random's rawr |
| 00:44.14 | The_Randomness | nom |
| 00:47.13 | AdmiralPanda | Tecnhodroid: not sure how you're going to respond to this, but literally the only thing stopping the Fordanta from leaping in to protect USO from Billig is the mind control |
| 00:48.01 | Tecnhodroid | I don't mind, I've given up on the grey thing, USO will probably stay mind controlling |
| 00:48.05 | Monet | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140403161019/bioshock/images/1/17/Outside.jpg many a Bioshock vet shat themselves with fear seeing this. |
| 00:49.27 | AdmiralPanda | what's funny is that the Fordanta only have a problem with the Omega Commander itself, their little genocide party is aimed at getting said AI's attention so they can deal with it and get their ally back |
| 00:50.02 | Tecnhodroid | Not with Xaltsa too? :P |
| 00:50.37 | AdmiralPanda | Xaltsa is nothing without the OC so he's irrelevant |
| 00:51.01 | AdmiralPanda | if he gets killed along the way that's just a bonus |
| 00:51.32 | Monet | H eowuld have stayed nothing had it not been the COmmander's decision to promote him |
| 00:51.32 | Monet | presumably |
| 00:52.02 | Tecnhodroid | If it weren't for that he'd still be an entertainer, that and the Vorius incident |
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| 00:53.49 | Monet | I know I keep bringing it up but Xaltsa's position sort of reminds me of one of the things that set ROman generals and barbarian chiefs apart. |
| 00:54.06 | Monet | Although i'm well aware that in truth he has no status in command. |
| 00:54.31 | Monet | Basically in the days of ancient Rome the best way to become a general was to be rich and have land. |
| 00:56.10 | Monet | Wheras among tribal cheiftans, if you wanted ot lead you had to prove you were good at givin orders and waving a sword |
| 00:58.16 | Monet | OluapPLayer: Just reached talk of VOlim's ultimate plan |
| 00:58.35 | OluapPlayer | Wrong Wranploer hur |
| 00:58.42 | Monet | You know who I mean |
| 00:58.50 | Monet | Still Vo-something |
| 00:59.10 | Monet | A planet made of bodies...I am strangely not too creeped out by this. |
| 00:59.43 | OluapPlayer | Regnatus turned people into spaceships |
| 00:59.52 | OluapPlayer | Vorius is a step forward, he turns himself into a planet |
| 01:00.19 | Monet | I've encountered a story with a planet made out of corpses before |
| 01:02.47 | Monet | For a moment there I thought when Kilchárunya said "Andromeda Team" I thought she meant whoever's after Volkarus |
| 01:03.42 | OluapPlayer | Hachi claimed the part where Vorius grows a head out of a tentacle reminded him of The Thing |
| 01:03.46 | OluapPlayer | hence why I wanted your reaction hur |
| 01:04.12 | Tecnhodroid | needs more MGR |
| 01:04.27 | OluapPlayer | Vekaron cuts him in a million pieces while singing RULES OF NATURE |
| 01:05.08 | Monet | I admit I havn't seen that film in its entirity. |
| 01:05.37 | Hachiman | You should |
| 01:05.43 | Monet | The "planet of bodies" thing I encountered reading the Xelee Sequence. |
| 01:05.46 | Hachiman | You'll be paranoid for like a week |
| 01:07.08 | OluapPlayer | And there's the fact Vorius was the room |
| 01:07.10 | Monet | "paranoid for a week" |
| 01:07.15 | Monet | How is that a form of encouragement? |
| 01:07.45 | OluapPlayer | It sounded scarier in my head |
| 01:08.07 | Hachiman | Aye it was pretty scary |
| 01:08.24 | Hachiman | Monet: Because it shows how much The Thing fucks with your perception of people |
| 01:08.25 | Monet | Yeah that part was pretty damn creepy |
| 01:09.55 | OluapPlayer | Vorius - i am my own office |
| 01:10.38 | OluapPlayer | Main points of the section are the reveal of what the World of Corpses is and the Spawn's betrayal. Now you'll see how the Spawn is not Mirras III |
| 01:10.42 | AdmiralPanda | quick question: how would everyone involved in the Cleansing Flames war feel if the Fordanta turned around and started murdering Billig's people the second UNO is restored? |
| 01:10.55 | OluapPlayer | PCA - berty gud |
| 01:11.35 | AdmiralPanda | because it's actually quite likely to happen |
| 01:11.56 | OluapPlayer | The only people who would miss Billig are the Loron |
| 01:12.04 | OluapPlayer | And no one cares for the Loron's opinion |
| 01:12.12 | AdmiralPanda | heh |
| 01:12.35 | AdmiralPanda | you know, now that I think of it, the Loron represent one of the Empire's biggest failures |
| 01:12.46 | Tecnhodroid | Billig is not liked more than USO, he's just hated less |
| 01:14.10 | AdmiralPanda | I mean in one fiction the Fordanta found some of their main population centres, wrecked the shit out of them, and yet the Loron still exist… for a race with extermination as a military doctrine, that ain't exactly good |
| 01:14.56 | Tecnhodroid | It's hard to stamp the Loron out, even the DCP couldn't |
| 01:15.03 | OluapPlayer | Loron - dun care |
| 01:15.16 | Monet | Kill all Norol. |
| 01:15.22 | Monet | How's that for a plan? |
| 01:15.37 | OluapPlayer | That's your best bet I imagine |
| 01:15.59 | Tecnhodroid | The Norol are innocent, then you have the whole millions of Norol in different worlds |
| 01:16.02 | OluapPlayer | But still pretty hard since the Loron have become one of the most widespread races in Borealis |
| 01:16.22 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Though if the Norol where smart they'd try to protect themselves or hide out |
| 01:16.40 | Tecnhodroid | They ARE smart |
| 01:16.45 | Monet | Draconis - Innocence is subjective. |
| 01:16.49 | DrodoEmpire | exactly |
| 01:16.51 | OluapPlayer | Protect themselves with Loron meatshields hur |
| 01:16.57 | Tecnhodroid | The Norol are the only intelligent ones |
| 01:17.09 | Tecnhodroid | Also for a while, UNO had Loron who were good |
| 01:17.19 | Tecnhodroid | But USO killed them all |
| 01:17.27 | OluapPlayer | Now Zr'Ahgloth turned into a douchebag again hur |
| 01:17.33 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: That was the plan |
| 01:17.35 | AdmiralPanda | it didn't work |
| 01:17.43 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Not innocent if they fuel the Loron war machine. :P I'm sure it couldn't be incredibly difficult to send police or military raids to civilian populations of Norol and have them evicted if you really wanted to :P |
| 01:17.46 | Monet | Kill all Norol and let the lroon stupid themselves to death. |
| 01:17.49 | Tecnhodroid | And erased them from their citizens' memory |
| 01:18.36 | DrodoEmpire | The ones in pockets of resistence and with the presence of Loron however would be tougher to get rid of |
| 01:18.47 | AdmiralPanda | that was actually why the Fordanta were involved for a large part, they got pointed straight at the Norol and told "kill" but it didn't quite work out |
| 01:19.03 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: That's prettymuch the Draconis opinion of innocence. If you're supporting the war effort you are guilty of opposing the Imperium. |
| 01:19.07 | OluapPlayer | I don't imagine things like Norol-only settlements existing |
| 01:19.14 | Tecnhodroid | OluapPlayer: How do you access the IRC? Like, what client? webchat.freenode? |
| 01:19.26 | OluapPlayer | I have http://webchat.freenode.net/ favorited |
| 01:19.32 | Tecnhodroid | Also, no, they don't exist. The Norol cannot do things themsleves |
| 01:19.38 | Tecnhodroid | Ah, okay |
| 01:19.38 | AdmiralPanda | as much flak as I got for that segment, I still think it was the best example of how the Fordan war machine works |
| 01:20.01 | Tecnhodroid | Just there's talks of some channel improvements here |
| 01:20.03 | AdmiralPanda | find a target, wipe it out with overwhelming force, clean up the remainder |
| 01:20.31 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: I wouldn't put it THAT harshly; If they're working in the factories I myself think they're more or less innocent; Even soldiers to an extent. However there's a BIG difference when theyre actually creating the soldiers. :P |
| 01:20.53 | Tecnhodroid | The Loron were a biological evolution of the Norol needed to survive |
| 01:21.11 | Tecnhodroid | The result of course was a pain in the arse for the rest of the universe |
| 01:21.17 | DrodoEmpire | Seeing as then you aren't working in the munitions factory to make a living; You're growing supersoldiers to defend yourself or your posse with |
| 01:21.28 | OluapPlayer | Didn't the Taldar create the Loron for the Norol, then the Ralza decided to turn them into what they are now? |
| 01:22.12 | Tecnhodroid | Basically yeah |
| 01:22.22 | Tecnhodroid | But I see it as a guided evokution from the both |
| 01:22.24 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: The Imperial Talon Navy can be rather blunt. But hey, if you survive your home or factory getting bombed you have a chance of joining the Imperium as a citizen or a sub-citizen |
| 01:22.27 | OluapPlayer | I remeber you commenting that the Loron were originally more or less cavemen |
| 01:22.39 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Yay. :P |
| 01:22.49 | Tecnhodroid | (I only used that to explain how they became humanocentric xD) |
| 01:22.54 | OluapPlayer | Then I guess the Traffphyds were feeling particularly trolly one day and turned them into chavs hur |
| 01:23.07 | Tecnhodroid | Pretty much :P |
| 01:23.08 | AdmiralPanda | DrodoEmpire: The Fordanta are a much different story, they simply don't care about innocence- they just wipe you out |
| 01:23.10 | DrodoEmpire | At the same time you never said they where good, and I like neutral fictions even if I disagree with there methods |
| 01:23.22 | DrodoEmpire | AdmiralPanda: Right |
| 01:23.53 | Monet | I think being rather heavy-handed at times is part of their personality |
| 01:23.59 | AdmiralPanda | I do often wonder how characters would react to seeing that happen |
| 01:24.18 | Tecnhodroid | Oh jeez, I've been staying on so late today xD I wish I could more often |
| 01:24.20 | DrodoEmpire | Though why? The goal in war is to seize an objective; preferably intact. Killing an entire city's population and basically sowing salt into the land isn't making it tactically useful to you anymore |
| 01:24.42 | DrodoEmpire | That said that would be good for scaring the shit out of the nation |
| 01:24.49 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 01:25.09 | Hachiman | https://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10173766_642007562536126_1371739575544871612_n.png |
| 01:25.22 | Monet | Fordanta wage war to do jsut that. |
| 01:25.29 | Tecnhodroid | Xaltsa does that because it's fun, not because it's the way forward |
| 01:25.30 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 01:25.40 | Monet | They don't jsut kill your people, they drop an anivl of "don't fuck with us" on your head |
| 01:25.46 | AdmiralPanda | DrodoEmpire: Not for the Fordanta. The goal of a Fordan war is the complete eradication of the aggressor, as this cuts the cycle of violence. Look at Germany: if you beat someone in war, those that are left behind end up resenting the enemy |
| 01:25.55 | AdmiralPanda | that resentment eventually builds into dissent, and you get Hitler |
| 01:26.09 | DrodoEmpire | Not if you play your cards right. :P Like with Rome or any great empire |
| 01:26.11 | AdmiralPanda | the Fordanta remove any chance of that ever happening by completely eradicating the population |
| 01:26.48 | DrodoEmpire | Though to be fair if you aren't interested in building a giant empire then simply scaring nations out of fighting you is good enough |
| 01:27.03 | Wormy | I'm not sure if this is right but heard or read somewhere that the claim that Romans salted the land is in dispute |
| 01:27.19 | Monet | Wormy: They did that with Carthage. |
| 01:27.19 | AdmiralPanda | Wormy: They only did that with enemies they were making an example of |
| 01:27.20 | Wormy | They may have rarely if ever did it |
| 01:27.33 | AdmiralPanda | places they actually intended to settle they didn't |
| 01:27.37 | TekDroid | It looks like the PQ (separatists) is about to lose power in the Quebec provincial elections. :D |
| 01:27.39 | DrodoEmpire | Well in case you haven't noticed Carthage isn't looking like prime real estate right about now |
| 01:27.41 | AdmiralPanda | it was only really Carthage and a couple places out east |
| 01:27.42 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 01:27.45 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:28.20 | Monet | Carthage was such a pain in their arse to the ROmans they just decided to level it and make sure it never rose up again. |
| 01:28.49 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salting_the_earth#Destroying_cities |
| 01:29.15 | Tecnhodroid | I love how all these empires think so deeply about morals and such then I have an empire who literally does stuff because "lol fuck you" |
| 01:29.18 | Wormy | Just be wary of things said in 19th century lol |
| 01:29.33 | Wormy | Like how warn buttered toast was bad for women |
| 01:29.45 | AdmiralPanda | the Empire is above all concerned with the idea of mutual co-operation, so their own territory isn't as important as their sphere of influence |
| 01:30.06 | Tecnhodroid | USO and the Loron both just kill stuff because it's fun |
| 01:30.13 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Politically speaking that might not be smart. :P |
| 01:30.29 | OluapPlayer | Loron - u callin me dum yor dum |
| 01:30.37 | Tecnhodroid | It's almost unique to have undeveloped motives xD |
| 01:30.44 | DrodoEmpire | You could get in a lot of trouble messing with too many people at the same time; Wars can be expensive y'know |
| 01:31.06 | Tecnhodroid | Not when you're USO and can never run out of resources |
| 01:31.20 | Tecnhodroid | The two expenses of war are irrelevant for USo |
| 01:31.34 | AdmiralPanda | Fordanta - How about we destroy all your factories- all those resources will sure be helpful in a warehouse ^.^ |
| 01:31.39 | DrodoEmpire | How can they never run out? :P |
| 01:31.41 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:31.43 | Monet | USO could learn from Garrosh |
| 01:31.54 | AdmiralPanda | DrodoEmpire: infinite energy, energy to matter conversion |
| 01:31.55 | Angrybirds | From WoW? |
| 01:31.59 | AdmiralPanda | therefore infinite matter |
| 01:32.05 | Tecnhodroid | + |
| 01:32.07 | Monet | AngryBirds: Yeah |
| 01:32.08 | Monet | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbH-Oi5bgCY |
| 01:32.09 | Hachiman | How can anybody learn from Garrosh |
| 01:32.13 | Hachiman | Garrosh is an idiot |
| 01:32.27 | Tecnhodroid | Their energy is extradimensional as well |
| 01:32.34 | DrodoEmpire | Still, not infinite manpower, or infinite land. :P Once someone makes a breakthrough you really could be done for |
| 01:32.40 | AdmiralPanda | heh, that would actually be a fair bit interesting |
| 01:32.42 | Tecnhodroid | Exactly |
| 01:32.48 | Angrybirds | Hachiman: Exactly. |
| 01:32.55 | AdmiralPanda | the look on people's faces when the Fordanta suddenly go "Ok UNO is free, now you die Billig" |
| 01:33.05 | Tecnhodroid | Those things are USO's only limit |
| 01:33.07 | Monet | Hachiman: They can learn to not do what he does. |
| 01:33.13 | AdmiralPanda | actually that was the plan all along, wasn't it? |
| 01:33.24 | AdmiralPanda | dum, the surprise is not so big a surprise |
| 01:33.24 | Tecnhodroid | Billig - ;_; |
| 01:33.37 | OluapPlayer | Garrosh - BE A DICK FOR NO REASON, MERGE YOURSELF WITH ELDRITCH BEAST, FUNT IMES |
| 01:33.42 | OluapPlayer | FUN TIMES even |
| 01:33.52 | AdmiralPanda | aright, I'm going to get some lunch, see you guys later |
| 01:33.57 | DrodoEmpire | See ya |
| 01:34.02 | Tecnhodroid | Of the Cleansing Flames? Well, Oluap will tell you, that no that's not exactly how it goes |
| 01:34.05 | Tecnhodroid | Okaii, byee! |
| 01:34.09 | OluapPlayer | Eh? |
| 01:34.24 | Tecnhodroid | I spoiled the plot for you |
| 01:34.28 | OluapPlayer | Alright, huge spoiler for Cleansing Flames |
| 01:34.30 | OluapPlayer | You all ready? |
| 01:34.32 | OluapPlayer | Hachi dies |
| 01:34.34 | Tecnhodroid | No? |
| 01:34.38 | The_Randomness | ded |
| 01:34.39 | Tecnhodroid | Oh |
| 01:34.57 | Tecnhodroid | Yeah |
| 01:35.08 | Hachiman | Hachi always dies |
| 01:35.25 | Tecnhodroid | Xaltsa kills him, then Volzara and Zargoth have sex |
| 01:35.26 | Hachiman | Like, he's not even involved |
| 01:35.28 | Hachiman | And he still dies |
| 01:35.42 | Hachiman | Technodroid: Zargoth uses Hachi's corpse as a dick warmer |
| 01:36.09 | Tecnhodroid | Participants vote on one of 3 endings. Blue sex scene, green sex scene, or red sex scene |
| 01:36.28 | Tecnhodroid | Then plot ends, UNO is back to normal! Like nothing ever happened! |
| 01:36.41 | Hachiman | And then there's a secret ending where there's no sex scene and people die anyway |
| 01:36.48 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 01:37.20 | OluapPlayer | second secret ending with VekaronXKalcedia tape where |
| 01:37.22 | Tecnhodroid | Yup, when they shoot the kid or tell him to stfu. Fuck, I revealed there was a kid involved, another spoiledmr |
| 01:37.30 | Monet | Sex isn't as exiting when lives aren't at stake |
| 01:37.41 | OluapPlayer | The kid is actually Gorf |
| 01:37.52 | OluapPlayer | You don't just shoot Gorf |
| 01:38.09 | Tecnhodroid | And Shepard is Xaltsa |
| 01:38.47 | Hachiman | Here's a big spoiler |
| 01:38.50 | Hachiman | Kalcedia fucks |
| 01:38.59 | Hachiman | Like, Kalcedia just fucks |
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| 01:39.19 | Liquid_Ink | Could somebody help me install Dark Injection? |
| 01:39.22 | Tecnhodroid | Oh and Antagonar 1v1s the universe |
| 01:39.38 | Liquid_Ink | I'm downloading the files I just can't find where I'm meant to put them. |
| 01:39.45 | Tecnhodroid | Dunno, I never installed DI |
| 01:40.11 | Angrybirds | Liquid_Ink : Mac or PC? |
| 01:40.16 | Liquid_Ink | PC |
| 01:40.40 | Tecnhodroid | Goddamnit I need a job |
| 01:40.45 | Tecnhodroid | A full job |
| 01:40.56 | Liquid_Ink | Secret Agent |
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| 01:41.28 | Tecnhodroid | Square release FFVII and VIII on Mac you fucks |
| 01:41.40 | Tecnhodroid | I don't need Dota on Macs I barely play that |
| 01:42.35 | Tecnhodroid | Fuck damnit gimme money and everything and a new house and grrr why is living so hard :( |
| 01:43.03 | Liquid_Ink | Hachiman beep |
| 01:43.20 | Monet | Technodroid: I blame the Tories and Labour. |
| 01:43.21 | Hachiman | Beep |
| 01:43.42 | Monet | :up Green Party: |
| 01:43.48 | Liquid_Ink | [11:39] <Tecnhodroid> Oh and Antagonar 1v1s the universe |
| 01:43.51 | Liquid_Ink | [11:39] <Liquid_Ink> I'm downloading the files I just can't find where I'm meant to put them. |
| 01:44.02 | Liquid_Ink | You have Dark Injection, no? |
| 01:44.15 | Tecnhodroid | Fuck the Labour party :( |
| 01:44.27 | Angrybirds | Liquid_Ink: Go into your disk > Program files > Steam > Steamapps > Common > Spore > data |
| 01:44.46 | Liquid_Ink | Steam? |
| 01:44.55 | Tecnhodroid | That's heavily relying on the assumption Liquid is playing Spore on Steam |
| 01:45.01 | Tecnhodroid | Which he's not |
| 01:45.07 | OfficerJackal | Oh, wait, Liquid_Ink, you have the CD version or Origin version? |
| 01:45.13 | Angrybirds | If you don't have steam, then it should be: disk > Program FIles > Spore > data |
| 01:45.13 | Liquid_Ink | CD |
| 01:45.24 | Tecnhodroid | FUCK ORIGIN |
| 01:45.27 | Tecnhodroid | FUCK EA |
| 01:45.31 | Tecnhodroid | BURRRRRRN |
| 01:45.44 | The_Randomness | TECHNO ANGRY |
| 01:45.50 | OfficerJackal | Why are you being so bitter lately? First you tore into Microsoft, now you are abusing Origin and EA out of the blue. :( |
| 01:45.53 | DrodoEmpire | http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/613896721032634110/B5C787C131BF2861E6B65301C1003B7C6ABC20BB/ |
| 01:46.05 | Tecnhodroid | TECHNO ANGRYYYY |
| 01:46.10 | Angrybirds | DrodoEmpire : YES. |
| 01:46.14 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
| 01:47.23 | TekDroid | That is epic. |
| 01:47.24 | Tecnhodroid | I've hated EA for a reason many gamers have for a long time. And it's the same as with Microsoft. They make shit business decisions which alienate their customers |
| 01:47.58 | DrodoEmpire | http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/617280783329384482/7ED5F1CC40E1C1C222234282B72A37EF4CDAA3BD/ - This too |
| 01:48.03 | OfficerJackal | I know, but randomly going into a outburst against them when we only mention Origin in literally one emote, with one word, is a bit unnecessary. :/ |
| 01:48.03 | Tecnhodroid | They also ruin most franchises they publish |
| 01:48.33 | Tecnhodroid | Don't take me too seriously when I do that, I'm just in a funny mood :P |
| 01:48.46 | OfficerJackal | Right, okay. XD All is forgiven. |
| 01:48.47 | OfficerJackal | XD |
| 01:49.04 | Tecnhodroid | I'm trying to be all happy, after the early issue which you can see on Wormy's blog |
| 01:49.36 | OfficerJackal | It's fine. XD |
| 01:49.57 | Tecnhodroid | ^.^ |
| 01:50.07 | The_Randomness | The early issue? Which one was that? |
| 01:50.21 | Tecnhodroid | Check Wormy's blog, the new entry |
| 01:50.33 | Wormy | Hachiman: When Hachi dies, will you change your name back to LotG or Luc? |
| 01:50.41 | Tecnhodroid | A tl;dr is being witchhunted isn't fun |
| 01:50.52 | DrodoEmpire | http://abload.de/img/ijxku.jpg - 0.0 |
| 01:52.23 | TekDroid | DrodoEmpire: O.O |
| 01:52.44 | Angrybirds | RULE BRITANNIA |
| 01:53.02 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 01:53.14 | TekDroid | Just for the heck of it I tried exporting the CKII start as an EUIV start. |
| 01:53.44 | Tecnhodroid | britain OP |
| 01:53.46 | The_Randomness | Tecnhodroid: Oh, I see |
| 01:54.03 | TekDroid | Pretty much turned the entirety of Europe (except Byzantium) into a patchwork of tiny countries. xD |
| 01:54.15 | Wormy | small island, big ambitions hur |
| 01:54.40 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/wgEZj29.jpg |
| 01:54.45 | Tecnhodroid | We DID conquer a third of the world |
| 01:55.01 | Tecnhodroid | Though what can I say, I'm not even truly British xD |
| 01:55.13 | TekDroid | "small island, big ambitions" is more Ryukyu territory in EUIV |
| 01:55.15 | Wormy | no-one is, thats the magic of it hur |
| 01:55.22 | DrodoEmpire | Tek: YES. XD |
| 01:55.27 | Tecnhodroid | Lithuania ftw |
| 01:55.47 | Wormy | I have Russian blood |
| 01:55.57 | Wormy | and Irish |
| 01:56.05 | Tecnhodroid | CYKA BLYAT |
| 01:56.06 | Wormy | and several other countries |
| 01:56.24 | TekDroid | DrodoEmpire: I'm gonna guess that last picture unlocked the "Sweden is Not Overpowered!" Achievement. :P |
| 01:56.30 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 01:56.32 | Tecnhodroid | axaxaxa i fuck ur mother noob |
| 01:57.15 | TekDroid | Most of the CK/EU images make me feel like a complete noob. xD |
| 01:57.21 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:57.35 | Monet | Technodroid: You sure that's a good idea to spout randomly? |
| 01:57.37 | DrodoEmpire | http://pds21.egloos.com/pds/201312/26/86/c0026886_52bb52783badb.png - What the... |
| 01:57.45 | Tecnhodroid | Well I ought to get to sleep now |
| 01:57.50 | Tecnhodroid | Good night! |
| 01:57.50 | The_Randomness | Tecnhodroid: u wot m8 |
| 01:57.55 | Monet | I recall Imp saying cyka = bitch |
| 01:57.55 | The_Randomness | Goodnight |
| 01:57.56 | TekDroid | DrodoEmpire: O.o |
| 01:58.05 | Tecnhodroid | IM MLG M8 |
| 01:58.10 | The_Randomness | u wot |
| 01:58.21 | The_Randomness | 1v1 me scrublord |
| 01:58.29 | Tecnhodroid | 1v1 me mid noob ill fukin rek u |
| 01:58.36 | TekDroid | So far my best achievement in EUIV is putting Castille in a PU in the 1470s. |
| 01:58.45 | Tecnhodroid | 360 noscope mlg pro |
| 01:58.47 | The_Randomness | i can rek u from keyboard |
| 01:58.48 | OfficerJackal | fuck i no-scop al of u. |
| 01:58.50 | The_Randomness | ggggggg |
| 01:58.54 | OfficerJackal | lens-flares. |
| 01:59.13 | TekDroid | And probably going to also get France in a PU when their kind dies. |
| 01:59.14 | Tecnhodroid | gg wp recommend me |
| 01:59.24 | Angrybirds | TekDroid: :( |
| 01:59.27 | Tecnhodroid | Anyway now I should REALLY head off |
| 01:59.32 | Tecnhodroid | Good night! ^^ |
| 01:59.42 | OfficerJackal | See yo- |
| 01:59.43 | OfficerJackal | :( |
| 02:00.20 | TekDroid | So if my luck keeps up, as Portugal I will have a PU over Castille and France. xD |
| 02:00.48 | DrodoEmpire | I should take a screenshot of when Iroquois took over all of North America. XD |
| 02:00.55 | TekDroid | lol |
| 02:01.19 | DrodoEmpire | With the Mi'kmaq just sitting right in the heart of there territory with there one province. |
| 02:01.32 | TekDroid | I had the Zapotec annex the Mayans and Aztec before I even arrived in one game. |
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| 02:01.41 | DrodoEmpire | lol really? |
| 02:02.43 | TekDroid | yeah. Aztec may have had one left though |
| 02:03.08 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 02:03.12 | DrodoEmpire | bbl |
| 02:23.20 | Liquid_Ink | [12:19] <Liquid_Ink> When they say Spore can only be installed on three machines, does that mean you can install it on three simultaneously? |
| 02:24.38 | Angrybirds | I think the disk will run the installation program only three times? |
| 02:24.45 | Angrybirds | Grr... |
| 02:24.56 | Angrybirds | I'm trying to decide |
| 02:25.28 | Liquid_Ink | I've installed it more than three times, but not simultaneously. |
| 02:25.41 | Angrybirds | Does it still work? |
| 02:25.48 | Liquid_Ink | Yes. |
| 02:25.51 | Angrybirds | Should I give the Exeter-class hypermatter batteries on the saucer section, or should it just keep Rambo phasers? |
| 02:25.55 | Angrybirds | Then you should be fine. |
| 02:28.01 | Angrybirds | TekDroid OfficerJackal Wormy Liquid_Ink I need opinions. |
| 02:28.08 | Wormy | Good luck Liquid |
| 02:28.23 | Wormy | Kep the Rambo phasers |
| 02:28.53 | Wormy | good old phasers |
| 02:29.01 | Wormy | bye |
| 02:29.09 | OfficerJackal | Se- |
| 02:29.11 | OfficerJackal | :( |
| 02:29.15 | Angrybirds | One on hand, I'd keep the old-style star trek look. On the other, how cool would the Enterprise look with flak flying everywhere? |
| 02:29.15 | AdmiralPanda | :P |
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| 02:32.33 | AdmiralPanda | fun fact: in two movies, J.J. Abrams let the enterprise get hit by more weapons than the entire original series put together |
| 02:32.41 | TekDroid | Lol |
| 02:32.56 | TekDroid | Probably more realistic in that regard |
| 02:33.29 | AdmiralPanda | thing is, the original Star Trek is about diplomacy and discovery, whereas J.J. basically draped a Star Trek skin on Star Wars bones |
| 02:33.46 | AdmiralPanda | gross oversimplification but the movies are closer to Wars than Trek |
| 02:33.54 | Angrybirds | I agree with that. |
| 02:34.25 | TekDroid | I get that impression as well |
| 02:34.30 | Angrybirds | He even said he took the pace of Star Wars: Return of the Jedi and used it for Star Trek (2009) |
| 02:34.58 | TekDroid | Should be good to use for his next sci-fi film though. |
| 02:35.00 | TekDroid | xD |
| 02:35.11 | AdmiralPanda | to be honest I know why he did it; even the original movies were still more action-y than Trek-y |
| 02:35.25 | TekDroid | Yeah |
| 02:35.33 | AdmiralPanda | the formula just works better |
| 02:35.36 | AdmiralPanda | for movies that is |
| 02:35.53 | AdmiralPanda | too many lens flares tho |
| 02:36.23 | TekDroid | The second one wasn't bad with lens flares though |
| 02:36.28 | Angrybirds | I'll be honest, I LOVED the lens flares. |
| 02:36.43 | AdmiralPanda | I like a good lens flare, but when there's so many it hurts my eyes I don't |
| 02:36.49 | OfficerJackal | Fookin skrub, lensflares are bezt fegget. |
| 02:37.01 | OfficerJackal | XE |
| 02:37.03 | OfficerJackal | XD* |
| 02:37.05 | TekDroid | I didn't even notice it until people started complaining. xD |
| 02:37.26 | Angrybirds | I didn't notice them, though, that's the thing. It just added so much to the feel and energy of the scenes. |
| 02:43.22 | AdmiralPanda | I noticed them in a few scenes where they really weren't necessary |
| 02:43.42 | AdmiralPanda | but I agree that they did add a lot to some of the scenes, particularly where they were trying to look new and shiny and futuristic |
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| 03:49.22 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 03:50.24 | TekDroid | ~test |
| 03:50.24 | infobot | rumour has it, test is not funny |
| 03:58.13 | TekDroid | Night! |
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| 04:06.12 | WorkingClassPand | dum |
| 04:06.15 | WorkingClassPand | one letter too short |
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| 04:13.44 | WorkingPanda | hi avillan |
| 04:15.08 | Avilladox | Hello |
| 04:15.33 | WorkingPanda | I don't think I actually know what your fiction is/are |
| 04:16.08 | Avilladox | CAAON, and the Arcane Sector |
| 04:16.25 | WorkingPanda | could I get a link? |
| 04:17.23 | Avilladox | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Arcane_Sector |
| 04:17.33 | Avilladox | It's not good at all |
| 04:18.08 | Avilladox | I've been planning how to improve it |
| 04:21.01 | Avilladox | And for good measure, my main protagonist http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tyton_Sialis |
| 04:23.47 | Avilladox | Any suggestions on how to improve? |
| 04:26.44 | WorkingPanda | One thing I'd suggest is find someone else and compare aspects of your fiction. You may have to think on your feet a little if you haven't covered something yet, but you'll find yourself coming up with ideas to fill the gaps |
| 04:26.58 | WorkingPanda | and the more ideas you have the easier it gets to make new ones, believe it or not |
| 04:31.07 | Avilladox | I'm currently collabing with Lawful, and have an upcoming collab with Chantal71, Quark8, and Dinoman82. |
| 04:31.30 | Avilladox | I have a lot of ideas, my main problem is putting them into words |
| 04:33.50 | WorkingPanda | well I can help with that when I have time, I'm a bit busy at the moment working but at other times I'm always up for a chat |
| 04:34.10 | Avilladox | Okay, thank you. |
| 04:34.53 | Avilladox | I was considering making a sort of blog where I post future fiction aspects and other users say what they think of them. |
| 04:36.13 | Avilladox | Another problem is my lack of free time. For example, I have to leave now. |
| 04:36.20 | WorkingPanda | those sorts of things can help, although (personal opinion incoming) I find it works better to have a more organic discussion where things can be easily and rapidly changed, because ideas sort of build on each other and having an up-to-date understanding of things is always important |
| 04:36.42 | Avilladox | So, IRC for that type of thing? |
| 04:36.45 | WorkingPanda | See you around |
| 04:36.47 | WorkingPanda | and yeah |
| 04:36.56 | Avilladox | ~vanish |
| 04:36.56 | infobot | ACTION poofs |
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| 08:33.39 | Imperios | Hi Ink |
| 08:42.54 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 08:51.34 | Liquid_Ink | How are you? |
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