IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140406

00:01.04Liquid_InkSpu: Sure
00:01.11SpuRight good good
00:01.14Liquid_InkI would feel honoured.
00:01.30MonetI'd say the whole "who is this guy" angle they were doing for Winter Soldier was for those who don't know who he really is
00:02.09SpuSo I think the idea is that whilst Nihilchthonia sits at Caligaduro's waist, Caligaduro probably holds the rest of the universes up on his shoulders or his hands, or something like that
00:02.44TekDroidThe ending is a real "wait... what?", especially for the people who DO know the comics
00:02.44SpuEither that or he holds the 'ceiling' of the three lowest universes whilst the higher universes float independently
00:02.52SpuActually I like that version more
00:03.38MonetTekDroid: So...it wasn't him?
00:03.49TekDroidNo, it was.
00:04.16TekDroidIt's the rest of story
00:05.37SpuSo what did we decide on
00:05.44SpuOn which Simulacra planes went where
00:05.53OluapPlayerWe never decided anything
00:12.47OluapPlayerSpu: You willing to rp right now or is it too late?
00:14.25SpuWhat for
00:14.28OluapPlayerIce Cube
00:14.51SpuWell it is too late for me anyway
00:15.00OluapPlayerbaw
00:15.08OluapPlayerI'll ask another day then
00:15.35Liquid_InkI need to make Nihilchthonia in Spore, but I'm terrible at caves.
00:16.49Spuhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406001602/spore/images/6/67/Fantasyverseverses.png This is sort of how I see the Fantasyverse and all of the universes above and below it
00:17.08SpuI left Outworld out because I don't know Imperios' stand on it
00:17.32OluapPlayerZran Kar - my neighbors below are all ghey
00:17.44SpuCaligaduro - *knocks on ceiling* shup
00:18.27SpuPersonally I would have put Id under Sanguine Hill
00:18.50OluapPlayerI'd have put the Underworld above Id, but other than that it seems about right
00:20.20SpuAnd there's the Elvish Pantheon plane/planes of existence that might exist directly below Midnight or above Zenith
00:20.45SpuIf they exist that is I don't know much about it
00:22.48SpuI might say some spoilers now about Midnight and Zenith if you want to hear them
00:22.58Liquid_InkYes please.
00:23.02WormyThere's a potential worldlet that docks with the horizon allowing travel
00:23.16SpuWormy: In that case Outworld is the one directly above Koldenwelt
00:23.28WormyCould it be Outworld?
00:23.53SpuProbably, Imperios shows it as a planet/moon
00:24.03SpuAnyway Midnight and Zenith
00:24.11OluapPlayerRemind me what Zenith is hur
00:24.17SpuSun Phoenix realm
00:24.25OluapPlayerRight
00:25.16SpuBeings such as Soldalatel and Aethereus have tenuous identities as the deities of Midnight and Zenith and might just be very powerful entities in the hierarchy but not the very top
00:25.26SpuNalashtannylor as well and Kinmorunddraver
00:26.05SpuSince Caligaduro has ravaged both planes of existence, he may have destroyed the deities of those two realms
00:27.09SpuIf there were such deities of Midnight and Zenith they'd be similar to the Simulacra
00:27.12SpuOnly good and glowy
00:27.57SpuKinmorunddraver has a lot of histories that I can't really explain at this current moment as he sort of sticks out
00:28.39SpuBut I'll leave it up to you whether you think Soldalatel and Aethereus are the deities of Zenith and Midnight or not
00:29.16OluapPlayerThe deities are actually Smeevers
00:29.27SpuSoldalatel - all hail the mighty stupid
00:29.49SpuAs for where Midnight and Zenith are in the tiers of existence, well I dunno
00:30.11SpuThey might be at the very top or they might only be two/three universes above Koldenwelt
00:32.27SpuSince nothing on Koldenwelt has any historical record the lore regarding Midnight and Zenith only has one form of proof and that's Kinmorunddraver who doesn't talk much about it
00:32.50SpuScholars would call it a delicate term named "scrambled and fucked up"
00:33.31SpuThat being said no scholar would actually know about Midnight or Zenith, it's mainly just user information
00:34.23SpuAs opposed to the Simulacra who fuck around with Koldenwelt on a daily basis
00:34.56SpuAnyway I gotta go sleep because I can feel my lungs inside of my body moving
00:35.58Liquid_InkThat can't be a pleasant feeling
00:37.43MonetI like it when I can feel my heart beating at rest
00:39.12WormyI actually don't
00:39.33WormyI start to think about what it would be like when it stops when I die
00:39.39HachimanAye
00:41.09MonetA bit morbid
00:41.50MonetI came to the conclusion a couple of days ago the human heartbeat is probably why songs at 120bpm are somehow soothing.
00:49.09WormyConcept craft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAI_Quiet_Supersonic_Transport  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6120132.stm
01:00.34Wormyshocking http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/video-granny-spinning-gang-target-3377078
01:02.41WormyThey should have their arms amputated as punishment
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01:22.27DrodoEmpireback.
01:22.33Wormyhi
02:47.03TekDroidHello
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04:14.43TekDroid~test
04:14.43infobot[test] not funny
05:01.29TekDroidI had totally forgot April 5th was First Contact day. XS
05:01.32TekDroid*XD
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05:26.20TekDroidNight
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06:16.48Liquid_InkHello
06:18.52OfficerJackalHey!
06:26.19Angrybirdsdrom How's your fiction doing?
06:26.44Liquid_InkHOLY SHIT LIGHTNING STRIKE OF DEATH JUST BOOMED
06:27.03Liquid_InkAnd the internet is being slow
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06:47.52dromOh hey there Angrybirds.
06:48.02dromAnd hello to all
06:48.42Angrybirdsdrom Answer teh queshun
06:49.25dromWell, it's going good. I'm in something that looks like an ultimatum.
06:49.32drom*glargh*
06:49.46dromThat's the answer to yo question, Angrybirds.
06:50.09AngrybirdsAn ultimatum?
06:52.23dromThat I made up by myself.
06:52.29dromKinda hard to explain
06:52.43dromBecause the concepts at the both sides are unjustified.
07:03.07Liquid_InkNgh internet
07:17.33Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Laurene_Maxime#Quotes Liquid_Ink Imperios Drom   If you guys could add a quote, that would be awesome!
07:17.45dromI wonder what's the fictionverse's countersy of Halo's Flood and Dead Space's necromorphs.
07:18.03ImperiosThe Xhodocto Infernovirus
07:18.24ImperiosThe Mechanovirus, too, Liquid_Ink owns it
07:18.59Liquid_InkMechanovirus is the Flood's animlism crossed with the Borg's cyberneticallness
07:20.19ImperiosLiquid_Ink: http://liquidink21.tumblr.com/post/81738524592/i-know-people-are-just-going-to-dismiss-this-as ...Do these guys imply all Muslims are rapists?
07:20.29Liquid_InkYes
07:20.50Liquid_Inkhttp://liquidink21.tumblr.com/post/81772128194/australians-on-rape Also this
07:21.16ImperiosSacrebley
07:21.19dromThe infernovirus has no own page. I'm disappoint
07:21.23Imperios*Sacrebleu
07:21.46ImperiosBy Muslim you mean Middle Eastern in general dontchu
07:22.22Liquid_InkYes.
07:22.51ImperiosSadly it is like this in Russia too
07:23.09dromIn Sweden too.
07:23.11ImperiosWhich is stupid because 6,5% of Russia is Muslim
07:23.48dromIt's like that in every country that fear muslims.
07:24.11ImperiosWell
07:24.28ImperiosWe have always been quite Muslim
07:24.38ImperiosYou know, the Tatars, for example
07:25.14Liquid_InkI feel sorry for the Crimean Tatars
07:25.19ImperiosOr the Caucasians, or the Central Asians; all Muslim
07:25.24ImperiosA bit
07:25.38ImperiosReally, Crimea was theirs first
07:26.06ImperiosIn fact it is said that Russian monarchs contemplated adopting Islam at one poimt
07:26.15ImperiosBut then rejected it as it prohibited alcohol
07:27.06dromvodka
07:27.53ImperiosExactly
07:34.09dromI'm sure that they are jealous of the Muslims, because they drive better than them.
07:35.19Liquid_Inkhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/dubai/10019228/First-a-Lamborghini-now-Dubai-unveils-police-Ferrari.html
07:38.09AngrybirdsKnight_Alien : How do you think Ioi would have met Maxime?
07:39.49AngrybirdsKnight_Alien : Eh, probably through some kind of government conference held in the Bunsen colonies, she might have met with representatives from Bunsen while she was at it.
07:40.19Knight_AlienThrough his Diplomatic Missions to the French Colonies and he has to study the Empire nad it's leader before he gets their also im sure while he was their he etheir saw her or heard about her.
07:41.08Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Laurene_Maxime#By_others moar quotes, then I go to bed.
07:41.55dromI can't find one.
07:42.20Knight_AlienI just got done makeing a flag for the Future Colony in the Milky way http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:MilkyWay_Colony_Flag.png
07:42.45AngrybirdsDrom : It's likely that she might have met the Confederation's head of state through some kind of diplomatic mission to Andromeda.
07:43.49dromAngrybirds: How? And where in Andromeda?
07:46.15AngrybirdsDrom : Well, she probably would have gone to the Andromedan Colonies first and ceremonially renewed ties with them, and then visited Alcanti and the headquarters of the AGC.
07:46.43AngrybirdsThey could have easily have met there, or one of your head of states' subordinates could have.
07:47.07Knight_Aliengood night
07:47.47AngrybirdsThat, and the Confed is likely not unaffected by French policy. They might see the Andromedan Colonies slowly slinking back and their foreign policy being replaced by hers, it might be interesting to know what the Confed thinks about that.
07:48.40dromThe Naakji isn't a member in the AGC.
07:48.59AngrybirdsOkay, then scratch the first one, but they are trade partners with the FAC.
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07:50.07JepardiHi
07:50.27dromAngrybirds: That can be possible.
07:54.55dromHey Jepardi
08:04.28dromAngrybirds: I also forgot to say a thing: Naakji is going to be soon friends/allies with GEC.
08:05.06AngrybirdsAh, that makes sense.
08:07.33dromThey don't mind if France and all their colonies but the Cyrannian one would keep Naakji at stance.
08:07.51dromUnless if they are in their way.
08:08.42dromOkay. I think I have to go.
08:08.49dromSee ya later at afternoon.
08:08.57dromOr eariler. Hmm
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08:58.33AngrybirdsImperios : What kind of cerebral implants do the Sporewiki Russian civilians use in general?
08:58.54ImperiosNot sure
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09:13.10dromSo here I am again.
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09:35.32AdmiralPandahello
09:37.25drom'ello
09:39.52dromWell, I'll pretend that the Naak have meet France, since it meet the Andromedan colony.
10:02.23dromThere, it now looks better for me. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Naakjian_Confederation#Foreign_Relationships
10:08.46Liquid_InkImperios: Since I lack decent human making skills, would you be so kind as to make an image of some humans for me for the Empire of Man like the other human pics already there?
10:13.56dromsettings test
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10:42.52Liquid_InkHello
10:44.29XhoMorning/Evening
10:44.31Liquid_InkHOw are you?
10:46.42XhoOkay I guess
10:46.49XhoIt's warmer than usual down here today
10:46.54XhoA BOILING 12 C
10:48.09Liquid_InkThat must be so hot to you Brits.
10:53.04Liquid_InkI'm working on the Nyuumvooraa's page. I make references to two Old Colossi that I have no intention of actually making: "The Nyuumvooraa is known to have slain two Colossi in this conflict, believed by scholars to be the Colossi of Gravity and Fauna." I also give a vague description of Nihilchthonia: "Others say he is simply the most powerful abomination born from the churning ooze of Nihilchthonia."
11:00.58XhoAll makes sense to me
11:01.23ImperiosLiquid_Ink: Sure
11:01.45ImperiosWhat do you have in mind
11:01.57ImperiosXho: Lucky you, it's +3 here
11:02.11Liquid_InkNegro skin, Kazakh attire.
11:02.18XhoImperios: Tropical
11:03.44ImperiosNegro
11:03.59Liquid_Ink“We are NOT pink.”
11:04.02ImperiosWait I thought people don't use that word anymore in English
11:04.25Liquid_InkThey sometimes do.
11:04.59ImperiosBlack Central Asians
11:05.17ImperiosA Russian Neo-Nazi's worst nightmare
11:05.37Imperios*The
11:07.21Liquid_InkAlthough I'm going to base them off Bulgarians to a degree.
11:09.27ImperiosWell Bulgarians are somewhat Turkic
11:10.58Liquid_Inkhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406001602/spore/images/6/67/Fantasyverseverses.png Also Xho wanted to know more about the Outworld for this map-thingy
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11:22.50ImperiosYes
11:23.07ImperiosI wanted to complain about the Outworld not being present in that picture hur
11:23.44Liquid_InkHe didn't add it because he didn't know much about it.
11:25.55ImperiosWell it is supposed to be Alar'xashan and Kalisearan's shared plane of existencw
11:27.01Liquid_InkYour depiction of it as a planet was what confused him I think.
11:27.06ImperiosThat is among the closest to Koldenwelt
11:27.10ImperiosIt may be both
11:27.33ImperiosA plane of existence that materialises as a planet in Koldenweltian sky
11:27.42Imperios*skies
11:27.46Imperios*manifests
11:28.22ImperiosLiquid_Ink: Ritw
11:28.24ImperiosRite
11:28.24Liquid_InkMaybe it's one of the possible ones between Koldenwelt and Midnight?
11:28.28Liquid_InkRite?
11:28.30ImperiosMakes sense
11:28.36ImperiosInk: Rite
11:28.47Liquid_InkRite?
11:28.57ImperiosWhere are your Afro-Kazakhs going to live?
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11:29.09HachimanHai
11:29.13ImperiosHi woman
11:29.29AdmiralPandaHai Hachiman!
11:29.29Liquid_InkGive me a sec
11:30.26MonetGood moaning.
11:30.44Hachimanhur
11:31.36Imperios^moaning
11:31.40ImperiosIs fitting
11:31.57Liquid_InkImperios: http://i.imgur.com/U04jqrM.jpg ROughly in that black circle there
11:33.06ImperiosAlhassan - yay more Nazi bros
11:33.17ImperiosCould work
11:34.44ImperiosAlso perhaps their territory could share a border with Tartarion
11:35.02ImperiosIt is inspired by Turkic culture
11:35.24Liquid_InkSure
11:37.44Liquid_InkAlso, should we canonise that river dividing the western landmass from the mainland as The Grand River mentioned on the Koldenwelt page?
11:38.17ImperiosWhy not
11:38.19Hachiman"Grand River" is too generic
11:38.38Liquid_InkGet me a good name then.
11:38.43Liquid_InkAnd I'll add it.
11:38.54AdmiralPandaSerpent's Gorge?
11:39.17HachimanHmm
11:39.27HachimanI feel "Divide" should be used somewhere
11:39.54MonetImperios: Have you ever heard of this show? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Allo_%27Allo!
11:40.00Liquid_InkSerpent's Divide?
11:40.08ImperiosHeard of it?
11:40.12Imperios*Heard of it
11:40.27ImperiosActually wait
11:40.31ImperiosNo I didn't
11:44.39MonetI'm not sure why but one of my favourite characters is a British spy disguised as a French Police Officer.
11:44.59HachimanAye I like him as well
11:45.00MonetWith an atrotious grasp on French.
11:46.12Monet"The troon carrying the painting has been bummed by the RAF."
11:47.27Hachimanohgod
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11:49.11ImperiosHm
11:49.29ImperiosLiquid_Ink: You kinda reminded me of something
11:49.52Liquid_InkWhat?
11:50.06Monet"    Captain Geering: Did they destroy it?  |   Officer Crabtree: There were little pisses all over the track."
11:50.43Liquid_InkI personally am very fond of Dad's Army
11:50.54Hachimanhttp://www.deviantart.com/art/Militarum-Tempestus-Codex-Interior-Art-01-445512784 This further stiffens my belief that the Militarum Tempestus are IG-SM hybrids in function
11:51.03HachimanAnd thus make the Sororitas obsolete
11:51.42MonetSo Stormtroopers with more armour?
11:51.50HachimanAye
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11:52.11MonetIts not exactly a bad iea.
11:52.17MonetIn-universe that is
11:53.04HachimanI actually kinda like the Tempestus
11:53.20MonetSpace Marines are too few in number, GUardsmen are too easy to kill.
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11:55.51AdmiralPandaHachiman: Only thing is afaik Tempestus aren't using power armour
11:55.57AdmiralPandalooks like siege carapace to me
11:56.18AdmiralPandacorrection, it is siege carapace- no power pack
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11:56.46JepardiHi
11:56.48AdmiralPandaso yeah they are badass, but they don't make the Sisters obsolete just by strapping on carapace :P
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11:57.44HachimanHmm true
11:57.50AdmiralPandathe Sisters actually fill a very important part of the Imperium's military because they can take the fight to heretical forces with greater effectiveness
11:58.09AdmiralPandain fact that's their primary role- to destroy threats to the Imperial Church that the common man can't face
11:58.17HachimanWell I hope they get a Codex update soon
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11:59.49HachimanAlso, am I the only person who wants to see a comeback of the Genestealer Cult army?
12:01.20Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1922465_431814783629536_5921322451670941464_n.jpg
12:02.31MonetThat is kinda cute.
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12:03.17Hachimanhai u
12:03.21Monethttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406120143/spore/images/0/00/Paragon%27sDescent01.png Paragon Uriel sat on a wall...paragon Uriel had a great fall...
12:03.33OluapPlayeromg hai
12:03.38MonetHello
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12:09.25MonetDon't know if anyone remembers that scene
12:09.30WormyHi
12:09.53WormySo you could actually avheive the ancient dream of man-powered flight on Titan
12:10.28Wormyis so jealous of people in the future
12:11.13WormyOh and surf giant waves
12:11.30Liquid_Inkdrags himself away from liking pictures of naked women on tumblr to return to IRC chatting.
12:11.34Liquid_Inkdevours Wormy.
12:11.38Liquid_InkHello, how are you?
12:11.49WormyI'm okay
12:13.51OluapPlayerHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/zMRcy6j.png
12:15.02Hachimanolol
12:16.17OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/ELs2yjh.png
12:16.41AdmiralPandahuehuehue
12:22.35OluapPlayerhttps://31.media.tumblr.com/a030828ad86463a3a46fce8438c2c2da/tumblr_n30bwwU63x1s02vreo1_400.gif bowling ball
12:23.37AdmiralPandadaww
12:25.01OluapPlayerhttp://u.cubeupload.com/Paramud/vIAsjK.gif have Dilbert
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12:29.04AdmiralPandaImperios: Dum y u keep dying when I'm trying to talk to you
12:31.15Liquid_InkImperios: I would also like a flag for the Afro-Kazakhs. I would like it to be predominantly black, any red being more maroon, and a bird of prey symbol on it.
12:32.04Liquid_InkI hate to be demanding. You should interpret this as appreciation of your talents at flag making.
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12:35.42LawfulInsaneHello.
12:35.49LawfulInsane~seen Cyrannian
12:35.51infobotcyrannian <5f2c5c07@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.44.92.7> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 13h 10m 38s ago, saying: 'Thanks :)'.
12:35.53LawfulInsane~seen Sporeraptor
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12:37.56Liquid_InkWelcome back.
12:38.18Liquid_InkImperios: Now would be a good time to discuss the Outworld with Xho so he can put it on that map.
12:38.29LawfulInsaneHello
12:39.39OluapPlayerspu
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12:44.13Technobliteratorhii
12:44.13LawfulInsaneHello
12:44.25Liquid_InkHello
12:44.40AdmiralPandahai techno
12:45.07LawfulInsaneGonna play Pokemon
12:45.12OluapPlayerdumba
12:46.08Monet"Think Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, but with a goat." PC Gamer's intial summaty of Goat SImulator.
12:46.27Technobliteratorya dad
12:46.35HachimanSounds pretty accurate actually hur
12:46.55MonetTHat's what I like about PC Gamer
12:47.22MonetAll the reviewers are massive game nerds.
12:47.38LawfulInsaneMy school once studied a copy of PC Gamer. The front page was Spore.
12:48.16MonetI think I remember that article
12:48.37MonetOne of the creatures they teased was captioned "Proof that God has a sense of humour"
12:48.43LawfulInsaneXD
12:50.22MonetI probably should nto mention the score PC gamer gave it.
12:50.27LawfulInsaneAnd?
12:50.52Monet"it" in this case I mean Goat Simulator
12:51.06LawfulInsaneIt doesn't matter. I'm still listening.
12:52.48MonetYeah but there are other GS fans here.
12:52.56LawfulInsaneI know.
12:55.48AdmiralPandaI'm just waiting for Bear Simulator
12:55.49HachimanI like how GS isn't supposed to be srs bsns
12:55.50AdmiralPandaso I can be an actual bear
12:59.26Technobliteratorurgh
12:59.33Technobliteratorwikia screw the categories so much
12:59.52Technobliteratorthey work fine on any other wiki
12:59.55Technobliteratorthis one is fucked
13:00.12LawfulInsaneWow.
13:01.46WormyJo:  Do you mean other wiki hosts?
13:02.09WormyIf there is a SporeWiki specific problem, it might be worth contacting Wikia.
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13:22.21Monethttp://jscfeatures.jsc.nasa.gov/z2/images/multiangles/Trends/scaled/Trends_00007.jpg this is one of the spacesuit designs NASA hopes to implement soon
13:23.29MonetThey've put it to a public vote if peopel want that, this http://jscfeatures.jsc.nasa.gov/z2/images/multiangles/Tech/scaled/Tech_multiangles__00007.jpg or this http://jscfeatures.jsc.nasa.gov/z2/images/multiangles/Bio/scaled/Bio_multiangles_dark__00007.jpg
13:23.37MonetBTW all three have Tron lines
13:23.53LawfulInsaneHello
13:23.57MonetThe first one looks like a high-tech tracksuit to me
13:24.08Sporeraptorhi
13:27.08WormyHello
13:27.56TechnobliteratorWormy: the other wikis are on wikia though
13:27.58WormyMonet@  You've got be joking, they are real designs?
13:28.43WormyNo, these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services
13:28.51WormyAre what I meant
13:29.03WormyI thought you was talking about those
13:30.33Technobliteratorit's not to do with the hosting site
13:30.37Technobliteratorit's to do with the extensions
13:30.40Technobliteratorand they differ on wikia
13:30.53HachimanI like the first designs
13:30.56Technobliteratorwe have some dumbass extension that tries to make categorizing easier when it just makes it a pain in the arse
13:31.00HachimanScience fiction-y
13:31.15WormyOh I see, yes, like mediawiki and the like
13:31.51Technobliteratoryeah
13:31.55Technobliteratorthe mediawiki extensions
13:32.10WormyWikia can't really help us with that
13:32.16MonetWormy: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/02/vote-for-nasa-new-spacesuit-design yes these are real
13:32.20Technobliteratorthey can if we ask them to uninstall the extension
13:32.28WormyDo you know which extension might be causing it?
13:32.38TechnobliteratorI can have a good guess as to which
13:32.45Technobliteratorbut I'll have to do some research to check
13:32.58Technobliteratorit might not be too big of a problem, but I'll have to see
13:33.01MonetHachi: http://jscfeatures.jsc.nasa.gov/z2/images/multiangles/Trends/scaled/Trends_dark_00007.jpg the first design in low light
13:34.17WormyJust be sure that extension isn't useful for something-else or has a better alternative.
13:34.29Technobliteratoroh yeah of course
13:35.10Technobliteratorwikia themselves aren;t a bad hosting site, their only problem is that they have a monopoly because they are so good
13:35.11WormyMonet:  I'm not sure what to think of it, it almost looks too SF to be real.  Kinda cool in their own way, I'm sure they are more advanced, too
13:35.44WormyI'm a bit mean about wikia tbh, they have always helped us in the past
13:35.48Technobliteratorwikipedia has the same amount of attention and appears just as often in google search results, but they are non-profit so their monopoly is irrelevant
13:35.53Technobliteratoroh yeah definitely
13:35.59MonetWormy: One of the suits' key features are that they are attached to the side of the craft, so no irlock required to don them.
13:36.10Technobliteratorif wikia were funded  by charity instead of ads, then they would be perfect
13:36.14Monetairlock*
13:36.36WormyHm, are you sure it's not an April Fool's?
13:36.55Technobliteratorapril 02
13:36.55WormyI can't think of any spacecraft we've conceptualised without airlocks
13:36.58Technobliteratorso I guess not
13:37.06HachimanNo, I saw these designs in concept prior
13:37.16WormyThat is only when the article was written
13:37.26Technobliteratorscientists hurry up and invent space elevator damnit
13:37.28HachimanAbout a month before
13:37.55WormyI think this is really awesome
13:38.14Wormynew spacecraft technology, new suits, aesthetics shaped by sci-fi itself
13:38.43WormyJo:  The Japanese are working on that, so it is in good hands
13:38.44Technobliterator2040 before we get our own space elevator :(
13:38.53Technobliteratoryeah, but how long?
13:39.26WormyWe'll need to find a way to make the carbon nanotube material more failsafe, one crink and whole structure can be compromised
13:39.46WormyThen we'll need to find a way to mass produce the stuff, and have it still economical
13:40.24Technobliteratorsurely in the long run it will be more economical, right?
13:40.34WormyBut it would certainly make it cheaper and easier to assemble larger spacecraft and stations.
13:40.36Technobliteratorwhen you no longer have to spend millions on fuel to get the ships to blast off in the first place?
13:40.39WormyShould be
13:40.57Technobliteratorand that would mean that getting fuel to keep spacestations up in the air would be cheaper as well
13:40.57Monetmaking crabon nantoubes is a compliex and delicate process.
13:41.19WormyI'm more interested in the possibilities oif space industry
13:41.28MonetAcutally space stations require only minimal fuel to stay in orbit.
13:41.49WormyWe needn't fear dwindling resources or damage to the biosphere
13:42.19WormyIf we can extract and possibily even process materials in space
13:43.07MonetSpace stations do need something ot correct their orbits, but these resource demands are practically nonexistant compared to the amount of fuel rockets use to get int oorbit.
13:43.12WormyNASA is considering  mission to tow an asteroid closer to the Earth and land astronauts on it
13:43.30WormyBut I think the commercial space programs are actually the future
13:44.01WormyI'm sure NASA and the like will still be doing the big exploration missions
13:44.38WormyBut the corporations will be doing the space industry, the tourism, possibly even colonisation and space-based energy (like microwave-beamed power)
13:44.53WormyMaybe geoengineering too
13:45.42MonetOne thing I do like the sound of for SSTO craft is using a laser to heat the hydrogen in an orbiter's fuel tank during takeoff
13:45.53Moneta laser built on Earth.
13:46.02Monetwell, established on Earth.
13:48.27WormyI voted for biomimicry,
13:50.08MonetI do wonder if this treaty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty bight be a bad idea several years down the line
13:50.30MonetWhen humanity becomes a fully-fledged spacefaring species.
13:52.01MonetI get the feeling numerous nations redacted their part of the treaty during the Human inter-colonial wars.
13:52.32OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Her_Mongrel_Wolf#Having_Fun_Outside honk donk
13:53.31Hachimanreed dat
13:53.57Monethttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_heritage_of_mankind also this. I shal lread now.
13:55.44MonetOKay its interesting that Maryah acts like she's not allowed outside the palace.
13:55.50WormyI hope one day we will build things like this http://guitfiddle.deviantart.com/art/Ring-114296585 http://www.deviantart.com/art/Stellar-Engine-121816615
13:56.04MonetIt definitely shows how shut-in she was
13:57.11Wormyhttp://www.deviantart.com/art/Stellar-Engine-121816615
13:57.39Wormyhttp://julian-faylona.deviantart.com/art/Star-Laboratory-330535216
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13:59.46MonetHow old is Maryah by now?
13:59.49Sporeraptorhi
13:59.58dromhey
14:01.56GhelaeHello.
14:02.16OluapPlayer26
14:02.28OluapPlayerNo wait, 25
14:02.40Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10171841_239840189554007_545766957_n.jpg
14:02.49HachimanDunno what that says about Kezoreg then hur
14:02.51OluapPlayerhur
14:03.03OluapPlayerThat makes Kezoreg 26
14:03.06MonetSo 25, and she jsut got grounded.
14:04.03MonetAnd pulled home by the ear
14:04.08OluapPlayerConsidering she has the possibility of living over a thousand years, I'd say Maryah is still a teen
14:04.13HachimanAye hur
14:04.32MonetWhat's the age of maturity for Dracogonarous/Spinker?
14:05.01HachimanIt's justified for a Zazane to be pulled home by his/her crest if he cannot overwhelm the one pulling hur
14:05.21OluapPlayerNot quite sure. Around 30 I imagine
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14:08.14MonetHAchiman: SO for Zazane its like being held by the scruff of the neck?
14:08.21HachimanAye
14:09.46OluapPlayerHerquie would've grabbed Kez by the ear, but Zazane don't have ears hur
14:10.12MonetI can't say i've ever been grabbed by the ear
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14:10.38HachimanIt hurts hur
14:10.46MonetI know that much.
14:11.19Sporeraptorhi
14:11.31MonetBut when I was ever naughty I never recall my mum actually hurting me.
14:11.47MonetShe'd shout, and he has quite a temper.
14:12.04HachimanI remember getting grabbed by the ear at school by students
14:12.09HachimanI also recall doing the same back
14:14.19MonetClosest I'd say i've come ot the feeling is wearing headphones for too long
14:15.36MonetSo far what i've seen in this tory makes me question if Maryah has become a prisoner in her own home.
14:16.13HachimanKezoreg and Windey seem to think so
14:17.13OluapPlayerShe has
14:17.28MonetAs a cynic to the world of politics I actualyl disagree with a plan like "mandatory visit the city to meet the people once a month". FOr me such an event more closely feels like some PR stunt to show "oh she does care"
14:17.43OluapPlayerHachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/src/1396790001912.gif bumpbumpbumpbump
14:17.47MonetShe probably does.
14:18.09Hachimandaaww
14:19.04OluapPlayerMaryah's issue is that she cares too much, to the point she puts her own health aside
14:19.48MonetI'm not denyting she doesn't care.
14:20.44MonetI'm just not a personal fan of "meet and greet on this day every month". Politicians here i nthe UK love ot do that sort of thing during election seasons
14:21.25MonetIt gets even mroe egregious for me if its the same route and the same hotspots every time
14:22.20MonetI'd say Kezoreg callin gher pricness does ring soem truth
14:23.01HachimanHowever Maryah is far from useless
14:23.15HachimanShe does all of her own work
14:23.38HachimanAnd sacrifices leisure time to get it all done
14:23.48HachimanShe is a queen after all
14:23.59MonetActually that's what I was getting at - is she the head of state or is she an accountant with a lofty title?
14:24.15HachimanKezoreg seems to think the latter hur
14:24.26XhoTrying to learn an AAL song
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14:24.27XhoHard
14:24.30XhoHard hard hard
14:24.40OluapPlayerShe is the head of state
14:24.46TekDroidHello
14:24.53HachimanXho: Not as hard as trying to replicate Nile's drums
14:25.11XhoWith my eyes
14:25.21Hachimanhur
14:26.03Monet"Anti-cloning petitions, food activists, animal petitions, new spaceship designs, additional residential appliances" wow she really had to review al lthat?
14:26.23HachimanThat and more hur
14:26.36MonetALso the anti-cloning petition sounds like a bit of an insult toward her
14:26.42Hachimanolol
14:26.54OluapPlayerhur
14:26.58OluapPlayerWell she's not a clone
14:27.27MonetThe process of her birth was still pretty similar presumably.
14:27.59MonetShe's not an *exact* clone, but she counts because her inception was completely artificial
14:28.13OluapPlayerMore than one Maryah
14:28.19OluapPlayerkez - yey
14:29.08MonetALso new spaceship designs?
14:29.23WormyMonet:  Oh I just remembered, I have the seen those space suits somewhere (without the design).  The idea is that instead of an airlock, the suits are attached to a rover on say, Mars, which you can just walk into.
14:29.47AdmiralPandaWormy: That's how they work currently on rovers :P
14:29.50MonetReminds me of what I read of Peter the Great; the guy designed many ships for Russia's navy.
14:30.17OluapPlayerShe doesn't design ships, she just reviews them
14:30.39MonetTHis girl needs accountants.
14:30.43MonetLike. Immediately.
14:30.49WormyPanda:  What do you mean, certainly not the Lunar buggies
14:31.17AdmiralPandanot the buggies, but the big truck-like one that only got used once
14:31.38WormyI wasn't aware one existed
14:31.48AdmiralPandawait I have two designes mixed up
14:31.50WormyOutside the labs
14:31.58MonetAdmiralPanda: This one? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9NLhqbUZm40/TnljR2eNpYI/AAAAAAAADsY/Gy7oOwYNwIs/s1600/Advanichariot.jpg
14:32.00AdmiralPandathe one I'm talking about hasn't been field tested, but it's certainly a thing
14:32.12AdmiralPandayeah I think that's the one
14:32.29MonetJames May got to test it on Top Gear
14:32.38AdmiralPandabasically it uses that principle of stepping into the suit instead of using an airloc
14:32.48MonetThere was even a scene where he disembarked into one of these spacesuits attached t othe back
14:33.10WormyPanda:  That is the one I was talking about, I think
14:33.34MonetThis makes me wonder what sorts of things the Paragons review
14:33.53WormyAnd this suit http://jscfeatures.jsc.nasa.gov/z2/images/multiangles/Tech/scaled/Tech_multiangles__00007.jpg
14:34.40MonetALthough given Uriel is head of House Ultanos I imagine one of his duties is managing House Ultanos' finances.
14:35.08AdmiralPandanah you hire people for that
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14:35.32MonetTrue, and this is what I was saying regarding Maryah.
14:35.55dinohellow
14:36.01WormyPerhaps Uriel likes doing it, or is the type who thinks only he can do it right.
14:36.06WormyHi
14:36.15HachimanMaryah probably thinks that anybody else would get it wrong
14:36.17MonetActually yeah, given how large House Ultanos is I don't think Uriel could manage all its finances on his own.
14:36.36OluapPlayerMaryah does everything on her own because she wants to prove herself as a capable ruler
14:36.46HachimanAye
14:36.50MonetOluapPLayer: I get her now.
14:37.14MonetShe secretly doubts she could fill the last emperor's boots, right?
14:37.23OluapPlayerYes
14:37.44MonetUriel...might have been there himself.
14:38.30MonetAfter his brother died, Uriel refused to be coronated until after the Mecha-Wasp war was over.
14:39.28MonetSo Alensia has been Steward Paragon twice, multiple times even given how many expeditions Uriel liked ot go on.
14:39.33WormyI wonder which body of the Solar System would kill an exposed human being first...  Mars, Titan, Mercury or Venus
14:39.52HachimanWormy: Venus I imagine
14:40.15WormyYou'd be crushed, burned and corroded by acid
14:40.18AdmiralPandaWormy: Yeah Venus, you're talking fatal compression in a couple of seconds
14:40.30AdmiralPandathe burning and acid won't have time to kill you
14:41.00OluapPlayerVenus is Earth's cousin who had bad influences on his childhood
14:41.03WormyIf you are unfortunate you might land on some freshly exposed lava
14:41.18HachimanWormy: Are you by any chance watching a program about a guy who studies the conditions for habitability on certain celestial bodies?
14:41.21MonetI'm tthinking Mars. That planet has abruptly ended many Mars missions ot its surface.
14:41.31WormyHachiman:  Yes, I am
14:41.34Technobliteratorbbl
14:41.38HachimanHah, so am I
14:41.45WormySuch a small world.
14:41.50HachimanHe's doing Callisto right now
14:42.01OluapPlayernurds
14:42.04MonetSo what does this narrow probability of success say for manned missions?
14:42.19OluapPlayer"u gon get toasted"
14:42.31WormyIt'd be hard to land humans there tbh
14:42.37HachimanAye
14:43.10Monet"The Mars Lander is touching down now and...oh it crashed"
14:43.31WormyAtmospheric re-entry would require different design
14:44.00Wormyspecifications
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14:44.38WormyI think we should send swarm robots to Mars, each with specialist functions, then we don't have the issue with weight
14:45.01WormyThey could also set up base for us beforehand
14:45.44WormyI had a lecture last year at uni by a guy who works for ESA
14:46.08WormyThey built a brilliant design for the European rover
14:46.23WormyIt could do things the other rovers lacked
14:46.30Sporeraptorhi
14:46.42WormyBut due to wight and expense, all the good features were cut back
14:47.05WormySo me and friend (who studied engineering) proposed sending swarm robots
14:47.23MonetI'd say Uriel does suffer from the same anxiety as Maryah; his own father was bor non the fringes of House Ultanos and climbed t othe top, becoming a friend to the paragon at the time before dying at roughly 1000 years old. Uriel still keeps his father's sniper rifle in a case in his office.
14:47.31WormyIn fact ESA and NASA are looking into swarm robotics
14:48.23OluapPlayerMaryah doesn't even have a blood relation with the previous emperor
14:48.49WormyVon Neumann proposed it a long time ago in fact http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann_probe#Von_Neumann_probes
14:49.12WormyWe really ought to explore space with small, specialist robots capable of simple AI
14:49.53WormySo we don't miss details die to signalling delay as they move about
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14:51.12Hachimangot shrek'd
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14:54.51OluapPlayerHachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/src/1396735209916.gif Kez's face when Herquie approaches
14:55.28Hachimanool
14:55.32Hachiman*olol
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15:03.12Wormyhi
15:03.33WormyHachiman:  Remember the waffle factory at Mercury?
15:04.33HachimanAye I do
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15:05.00OfficerJackalHello!
15:05.08GhelaeHello.
15:05.11WormyIt should stay canon lol
15:06.49AdmiralPandathe planet Mercury has a waffle factory?
15:07.27WormyYes
15:07.45WormyIn the original SSA governed Sol fiction
15:07.48AdmiralPandaKaios - I would like to buy a controlling share in this factory.
15:07.57TekDroidI thought Mercury IS the waffle factory?
15:08.14WormyMaybe it is
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15:09.44XhoRight I'm bored what to do
15:10.34OluapPlayerWrite Terminus/Pelagrios prologue
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15:10.59Xhokitteh
15:11.09OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/Rxd0w7o.png
15:11.41Wormy"spangebob"
15:11.51WormyI read that in a Squidward voice
15:14.08XhoNonja Tartles
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15:17.41XhoWhere's Jo hur
15:18.10OluapPlayerded
15:18.42WormyApparentely Spongebob was ripped from Bob Spongee http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2007/03/spongebobss.jpg
15:21.32Wormychjk,m
15:21.45Wormysorry, that was my dog
15:22.19GhelaeI thought you were just enraged to incoherence by the thought of Spongebob being plagiarism.
15:22.33WormyHe must be trying to achieve human-level communication.
15:22.41Wormywith us
15:27.50WormyWhat is with the recent trope of adverts showing members of public stumbling over their words, only once
15:28.09WormyIs it to make them sound more natural?
15:29.54Wormyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYQwxXImtYQ
15:30.00Wormyfirst few seconds
15:30.37WormyCould be a mediocre cut job
15:31.24WormyHere too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q26LiOrNTX0
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15:33.50Technobliteratorand stitched
15:33.57GhelaeHello.
15:34.02WormyStitched?
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15:34.50GhelaeHello.
15:34.56Technobliterator#CleansingFlamesStoof git
15:35.27TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer Hachiman
15:35.38OluapPlayerwhat
15:36.18Imperios...Did Alyona get more attractive after the three weeks I had spent without seeing her or something?
15:36.40OluapPlayer[waifu intensifies]
15:36.44ImperiosOr, rather, actually slightly attractive
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15:41.29MonetXho: I realised something the other day
15:41.43Xhowat b dis
15:42.39Monet"Nivalim" sounds very close to the Dracid word "nivilum" which means "physical void"
15:43.00XhoWell that's a good coincidence and a half hur
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15:53.41PrimiusHi
15:54.08GhelaeHello.
15:54.30dromhello
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16:02.52Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/agyjDbq_460s_v2.jpg
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16:10.36MonetOne thing that I probably shuld have asked when Xho was here
16:11.29MonetIf you live in a post-scarcity economy, are you peniless or absurdly rich?
16:12.11MonetWhat exactly happens when dealing with other currencies?
16:12.38Technobliteratorwormy can answer that, the DCP are post-scarcity as well
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16:18.15GhelaeThe concepts of "penniless" and "absurdly rich" don't really apply to post-scarcity in general, although if you define material wealth as the ability to access resources, it would normally be closer to the latter.
16:19.11TekDroidBut even post-scarcity still needs some kimd of wealth, for things that are naturally scarce.
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16:20.12GhelaeYes. Furthermore, you might need some means of inhibiting resource consumption to prevent the quadrillions of people in your society from bringing things back to scarcity by, say, building their own fleet of starships.
16:20.58GhelaeBut Monet was presumably asking about a generic situation, judging by his question.
16:22.10MonetOKay more specifically, these post-scarcity societies whic abolish a national currency. if someone from this society travels to a society that still uses a currency, us the person capable of buying anything or are they in a situation where they are in fact peniless.
16:23.00GhelaeIf they don't bring anything with them that can be used in trade (or the legal acquisition of resources by other means, say a quantum replicator), then they'd be penniless.
16:23.05MonetI've noticed that in several fictions, becoming post-scarcity often means abolishing the concept of money within your borders.
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16:23.08Ex16t8-18Hi there
16:23.12GhelaeHello.
16:23.13Ex16t8-18oops
16:24.25GhelaeIf you were a citizen of a post-scarcity society travelling to an economic society, you might alternatively replicate something that can be sold to (or within) your destination for the local currency.
16:27.03GhelaeOr your government may provide you with funds that it has acquired by such means.
16:32.10dromHey, I found an image of the Civ2 TOT's units for the Sci-fi mode. http://i.imgur.com/pbn0H9A.png
16:32.54dromFantasy mode... http://i.imgur.com/GEtpu8n.png
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16:39.26ImperiosFooh, back
16:41.18Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aEwEm29_460sa.gif
16:42.18Zmr56heheh
16:45.35dinoback
16:47.02Imperioshttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/220/841/7gcs.jpg god that is awesome
16:50.04dinohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Alcanti_Palace_Guest_Beds.png awesome interior!
16:51.21MonetThanks
16:52.31MonetIts an extreme privalege to be given an exclusive chamber within the palace.
16:55.29TekDroidThat really is amazing.
16:55.59TekDroidLove how you added the picture frame too.
16:56.12TekDroidThat must have taken some work.
16:57.49Monet<PROTECTED>
16:59.41dino@Monet: It looks like a nice place to remain :D
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17:04.34MonetIndeed.
17:04.58MonetI imagine that one of the perks of having an exclusive chamber is you can decorate it how you like
17:06.46ImperiosSACREBLEU MY YOUNGER SISTER IS BACK
17:07.01ImperiosAnd she is watching Star Wars IV now
17:14.16Zmr56Angrybirds: Could there be some French Humans living in Mardvaeli?
17:18.27Wormy_awayHooray, are you getting her into sci-fi lol
17:18.50ImperiosA bit
17:18.58ImperiosShe plays GW2 with me too
17:19.44Wormy_awayThis is how we should fight the aliens!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNTD1j8YRuM
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17:21.16GhelaeHello.
17:23.14Zmr56Hi
17:23.19MonetI feel really slow at making pictures
17:29.15MonetI might make a list of dignitaries who have their own rooms.
17:31.38ImperiosMonet: You busy now?
17:32.32MonetA little bit.
17:34.39MonetAlthough to actually GET a room, you've basically got to be a trusted family friend.
17:38.27Wormy_awayShocking http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/video-granny-spinning-gang-target-3377078
17:40.08Zmr56Aye I saw this somewhere else
17:41.34Zmr56Idiots everywhere.
17:44.34Wormy_awayI hope they are punished severely
17:48.24Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Alcanti_Royal_Palace#Occupants here's the current "reserved" list
17:49.25XhoKithworto - betta b
17:56.20dinohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Excelsior-Class finished!
18:00.54Zmr56Looks nice and modern!
18:01.45Zmr56nngh, Civ crashed so I'm gonna be stuck in DotA for now
18:08.20AngrybirdsCan I haz quotes? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Laurene_Maxime#By_others
18:11.10XhoThinking of one
18:11.29XhoBut I don't know what factions of mine would know about humans let alone France
18:11.52AngrybirdsThe Kicath probably had dealings with French Andromeda at some point?
18:12.32XhoProbably
18:13.19XhoSince Kicath view humans in general as small, pink and as easy to break as a twig they'd probably laugh at most human factions
18:13.55AngrybirdsProbably.
18:14.57MonetI'll keep the Theains away from them then
18:15.13MonetKicath might see them as a species of babies
18:15.34XhoThey'd view Theians in a better light since they're brain-for-brain smarter
18:16.11Wormy_awayWhat about taller, sttronger and more advanced near-humans or posthumans?
18:16.20XhoThe same
18:16.32XhoKicath don't like humans since they know humans can be immensely stupid
18:18.19XhoHm I know what I'm gonna do
18:19.07Wormy_awayThe DCP see humanity as an affont to an ordered galaxy they think they can police
18:19.43Wormy_awayyet they don't deny some of the good traits of humans so they'd rather us be united
18:20.25XhoI think Kicath would view humans better if they were united, but considering the Kicath race is split they won't judge them on that
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18:20.33Sporeraptorhi
18:21.06MonetIts a bit wierd considering the agreements we have now like the Outer Space treaty
18:21.09GhelaeHello.
18:21.22XhoI'm gonna delete those extra Kicath pages and put the Alpha/Elite/Pure Kicath subspecies on there
18:21.30Wormy_awayIt is possible the DCP had wars with near-humans and the Yamato earlier in history
18:21.53GhelaeI remember you mentioning that Kilnok once got into a bar fight with a Klingon.
18:22.09Wormy_awayAnd also, the DCP is rivals with the Sontarans
18:22.45XhoGhelae: Can you delete http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kicath_Alpha and  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kicath_Elite for me please
18:23.21Ghelaebreaks out the bazooka and blasts them off the wiki
18:23.24Wormy_awaydone
18:23.34Wormy_awayOh I didn't read it was for Ghelae
18:23.36GhelaeSpoilsport.
18:23.42Wormy_awayI took er jerb
18:24.01Wormy_awayI can undelete them iof you want
18:24.31GhelaeNo, don't worry about it.
18:24.53GhelaeThe rockets weren't wasted; they hit some broken redirects instead.
18:25.30Wormy_awayGood, at least their souls can rest.
18:27.09MonetThat's a lot of Exelsior-class ships
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18:28.22XhoI'm going to re-class the Kicath types I think
18:29.00Wormy_awayI imagine the Judoon and DCP get along
18:29.32XhoSo the more common Kicath type that all of the characters are β Kicath, the larger and physically superior yet rarer types are α Kicath
18:30.51XhoAnd then the even rarer types, not quite sure
18:31.34XhoϺ Kicath perhaps
18:32.13XhoOr ϡ Kicath
18:32.21MonetI take it in this case rarer = closer Vi'Navitum heritage?
18:32.30XhoYeah
18:32.57Xhoα Kicath are very rare to come across and ϡ Kicath are incredibly rare to come across
18:33.17XhoKithworto is technically a ϡ Kicath though
18:35.12XhoAnd then you get β/β Kicath, α/α Kicath, ϡ/ϡ Kicath, α/β Kicath hybrid, ϡ/α Kicath hybrid, ϡ/β Kicath hybrid
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18:35.23MonetOh bloody hell
18:35.55XhoThe most common is β/β Kicath, least common is the ϡ Kicath and any hybrid involving it
18:36.09Ghelae~give Knight_Alien a cookie
18:36.09infobotACTION gives Knight_Alien a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up.
18:36.21Knight_Alien:D
18:36.28Xhoϡ/ϡ Kicath may number less than 1000 and then the hybrids even less
18:38.44XhoBut yes every other Kicath mentioned has β Kicath blood in them
18:38.56XhoThe only exceptions are possibly Psi, Nu and Kilchárunya
18:39.03XhoPsi and Nu because of their height
18:42.54XhoKilchárunya because of her skin colouration
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18:47.41Tek0516DroidHello
18:48.29GhelaeHello.
18:49.23MonetI wonder if Draconis living for up to 700 years on average might be outdated by now.
18:49.53MonetUsing Morphis or special chemical therapy, theoretically they could live for millennia
18:52.34Tek0516DroidPossibly.
18:52.53Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kicath There we go, updated with the Beta/Alpha/Sampi measurements
18:55.21XhoOut of 1.1 quadrillion or so existing Kicath the ratio between Beta/Alpha/Sampi is quite one sided
18:56.23MonetI really think "Toughness" needs to be more clearly exlpained
18:56.23dinoghel were is your blog to image making? How can I find it easily?
18:57.08MonetOn Techno's scale "natural armour" is 5TP.
18:57.56Ghelaedino: Do you mean [[User:Ghelæ/Guide To Battle Images]]?
18:57.57morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghelæ/Guide_To_Battle_Images
18:58.04MonetTe values i'm seeing makes it sounds like there are tons of races who naturally have skin or bones as though as any tank.
18:58.08GhelaeFor future reference, there's a link in my userpage infobox.
18:58.23Monettough*
18:58.27dinoThanks@!!!
18:58.32MonetI'm jus' saying.
18:59.09GhelaeMonet: That can sometimes seem to be the case even without the stats scale.
18:59.37MonetGhelae: I understand that some reaces have a majority of their population cybernetically enhanced.
19:00.24GhelaeYes, that's how I usually imagine it to be.
19:02.39MonetAlthugh I do ask myself the what is the point in all civilians of an empire having titanium alloy bones or bulletproof skin.
19:03.18MonetSure its handly, it might save you in a car crash but for the most part its just going ot be extra weight
19:04.05Wormy_awayϡ = Bat'lef Kicath hur
19:04.09GhelaeIf the extra weight also includes artificial muscles capable of carrying that weight, that's not so much of a problem.
19:04.46MonetThe image I get of these people  is taking out a loan to byu a ferrarri.
19:05.03MonetYes its cool, you've got something awesome, but really its unnesseccary.
19:05.33GhelaeIn militaristic societies, it might be government-enforced so they can be sent off to war at a moment's notice.
19:05.46GhelaeIn a post-scarcity society, "it's cool" might be reason enough for most people.
19:05.49XhoMonet: Isn't that glamourised prosthetics in general?
19:06.30MonetXho: A ferrarri fits because how often are you going to use all the extra power it has compared ot say a Fiat 500?
19:06.43XhoTrue
19:06.54XhoI suppose that's privilege for you
19:07.17MonetALso I always assumed the fiction stats were what was standard for the species.
19:09.09MonetI can see nwo why Cyrannian likes ot ignore adding stats now
19:09.24MonetIts potential for one-upmanship.
19:09.39XhoPretty much
19:09.52XhoI say ignore it and put what you want on there and don't let anyone make you think different
19:09.59XhoWithin the boundaries of sanity of course
19:10.21MonetBut this is where my toughness issue comes in.
19:10.33Monet"natural armour" I imagine as chitin plating for instance.
19:11.10XhoHm perhaps it does need more explanation than just "5 TP"
19:11.27MonetI think this might be the problem
19:12.03Ghelae"Natural armour = something like chitin" is was what I was thinking when I added that. It was based on how the toughest armour in Spore's creature creator adds 5 HP.
19:12.16MonetPeople see "natural armour = 5TP" then see "cybernetics = minimum 250 TP"
19:12.52GhelaeI think that ought to be a maximum.
19:12.58MonetSo there is a chance people see that teeny value and think "what kind of armour is this? soft leather?"
19:15.46MonetOkay so I looked at one of the signature species used on the stats page -the Loron.
19:16.17Monet"toughness 650TP" fro ma race probably too stupid enough to have any idea how ot make high-grade cybernetics
19:16.48XhoThick skull hur
19:16.52MonetANd as Ghelae said 5Tp is the strength of chitin
19:17.26Monetbut when scled up I'm pretty sure chitin is reasonably tough
19:17.47MonetOkay I think I get it now
19:17.59MonetMost chitin users here on Earth are insects.
19:18.37MonetALso shellfish
19:19.17MonetAndall these creatures have one thing in common: They're realitively easy to crush underfoot.
19:20.12GhelaeMaybe not a giant clam. I've never tried crushing one of those, mind you.
19:20.20MonetTrue
19:20.25MonetPlus chitin IS a polymer
19:21.27dromDid I hear, thick skull?
19:21.30dromhttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111022210704/stalker/images/2/2e/Cop_pda_pseudogiant.png
19:21.31MonetAnd given its rigidity this menas that when volume is taken into account, it shares the molecular (not entirely the same chemical) properties as many plastics
19:22.04MonetSo in actual fact, chitin could be quite eough.
19:23.36MonetCOnsidering its use by insects and crustaceons
19:24.17MonetBasically the stats I'm a bit iffy about say all these creatures have a natural armour more durable than kevlar.
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19:27.14dromI prefer story-driven stats, for me, stats = TL;DR list for abilities and preformances.
19:27.57XhoOh great that now means I have to make pictures of the other Kicath types
19:27.58dromAnd an easy visiualization/conclusion of what's made in the text.
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19:28.10HachimanHai
19:28.13GhelaeIf it's any consolation, I've never really cared for the stats system and I helped create it.
19:28.15dromhai
19:28.15GhelaeHello.
19:28.21Xhohai fgt
19:28.25HachimanI don't care for stats either
19:28.29Sporeraptorhi
19:28.30HachimanXho: suk a dik gaylord
19:28.50Xhono
19:28.53Xhonoh
19:28.54drom*"oooooo"-sounds can heard in the background*
19:29.22Wormy_awayI found it inflexible
19:29.42XhoIt can be deleted if everyone wants to
19:30.01HachimanWhat's this/
19:30.04Hachiman?*
19:30.04GhelaeHow much have the stats been used in anything other than infoboxes?
19:30.14Wormy_awayJust because I don't like it, doesn't mean it needs deleting.
19:30.17MonetNothing really.
19:30.38GhelaeI did actually use them on the Tokzhalan Military Industries page.
19:31.01Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/1977035_682841115112024_5938134029664567547_n.jpg
19:31.50MonetI recall Techno created ita s an attempt to standardise the key characteristics of the various species and vehicles on the wiki. So people had a clearer idea of how strong/tough/durable/fast/agile something is
19:32.06dromHachiman: http://imgur.com/gallery/588W2
19:32.43Technobliteratorthe stats system?
19:32.45Technobliteratoruh
19:32.48Technobliteratordon't mind too much
19:33.04Wormy_awayIt was a great idea, but I find when it comes to characterising strength or intelligence, it is really hard to make comparisons.  A sentence can characterise it better with more detail.
19:33.30Technobliteratorit being hard to make comparisons is exactly why I created it in the first place, to make that slightly easier
19:33.35Wormy_awayThough it works better for machines
19:34.34Wormy_awayThing is, it doesn't really explain why that species has that grade of strength, and in what places
19:34.43Wormy_awayOr how they use it
19:36.53Wormy_awayAnd intelligence...  You have to take in xenopsychology into account, or the speed of the computation (you can have slow brains that look stupid to naive observers).  Arguably intelligence is not key anyway, without a creative and critical faculty.
19:37.35Wormy_awayHence we have animals using intelligence, but not going beyond the same skills they have,
19:38.38GhelaeWe don't actually have an intelligence stat for those reasons.
19:39.03dromOnly level
19:39.17dromS1, S2 and S3
19:39.32Wormy_awayAh, that is only sentience quotient
19:40.09Wormy_awayThe speed of the computation
19:40.38Wormy_awaycompared to mass
19:41.04GhelaeActually, Drom's right; it doesn't refer to sentience quotient on the stats page. But it's only a vague classfication, rather than a rigourous attempt at stat-defining like strength and fortitude and so on.
19:41.36Wormy_awayBut I think people might be using it without thinking of other factors I mentioned
19:42.45dromPeople rather put them like "S+12" or "S1 (+14)"
19:44.02dromI followed how the standards formed the infobox according to the link where the form-edit linked me to. But I find them useless, it will stay there and collect dust and grow cobwebs.
19:45.10Wormy_awayEssence stats, I think that should be more about individuals than races
19:45.14dromI would rather use "Weak-Though" scale. At least something similar to that.
19:45.40Wormy_awayAns Sith Lords can exceed 300 EP
19:45.48Wormy_awayBut I know its just an example
19:46.24dromThe stats are of an average invividual of said species.
19:47.02dromCharacters have their own, more or less excending or decending the average stats of their own kin.
19:47.04Wormy_awayElemental would therefor be low for about every species
19:47.16Wormy_awaySince it requires training
19:47.54dromThere's species those high levels of essence is *natural*.
19:48.28Wormy_awayBut not with elemental, I had to be different with it.
19:49.13dromHmm. Sure it does, but if it was natural. The side effects would result in a natural fragible body.
19:49.14dinoBye all
19:49.15dinohave to leve
19:49.18dinosee ya next itme
19:49.18dromsee ya dino
19:49.18dinobye
19:49.18Wormy_awaybye
19:52.03AngrybirdsMonet:
19:52.09Angrybirdshttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406195141/spore/images/c/c8/Station_Q5.png
19:52.47SporeraptorAngrybirds: looks very good
19:52.57dromAngrybird, I feelt uncreative, now I got the idea to make a Naakjian space station. Thanks!
19:53.21MonetThe docked ships around the equator are a nice touch
19:54.04AngrybirdsThanks! Are you okay with the use of the DI ships?
19:54.36TekDroidI like the station. kinda reminds me of the obes in the Clone Wars cartoon
19:54.41MonetI don't mind .I like the "exitin  hyperspace" effect behind them
19:55.19AngrybirdsThat's what I was going for :D TekDroid: Now that you mention it...
19:55.20Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Monet47/A_Few_Concerns#One-upmanship_on_stats I realised that to nature, a metal skeleton is actually a bad idea for adaptation.
19:57.23TekDroidGood points Monet.
19:58.22MonetIts a nice thought to have unbreakable bones, but at the same time that unbreakability makes it harder for the body to make changes where needed.
19:59.20TekDroidArthritis would be a nightmare for metal bones. XD
19:59.31SporeraptorSounds reasonable to me, especially since you'd have a great weight disadvantage with metal bones.
20:00.14Wormy_awayThe Randomness and me had to think about how Salsetthe bones don't shatter horribly in their bodies
20:03.15MonetA rule of thumb when including minerals in bodies: Be aware that the body cannot break down compounds though sheer heat
20:03.29MonetIf it did, it'd cook itself
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20:03.46Sporeraptorhi
20:03.49GhelaeHello.
20:04.29GhelaeMonet: Electrolysis in anything that requires a solvent such as molten cryolite is normally not an option for the same reason.
20:05.17MonetANother rerason steel and titanium are not that common i nthe body.
20:05.37dromMonet: Good points in that update. Paring 200-800TP with tanks, made me feel a bit ashamed.
20:05.50MonetWe have tiny amounts ofiron, but its usually in the form of an easier-to-break a covelant bond
20:07.05GhelaeI think the key point is that we lack significant metallic bonding in the body.
20:08.28MonetYeah, Haemoglobin - the primary form of iron in the body -  is connected to the rest of the molecule via bonding with nitrogen
20:10.07Monetdrom: Did ou estimate toughness by looking at other creatures?
20:10.23GhelaeMetallic bonding doesn't work well for nanoscale machinery anyway. Hence metal-based life isn't usually something that's seriously considered.
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20:13.10Sporeraptorhello
20:13.34AvilladoxHi
20:15.34Wormy_awayThere may be geochemical reasons too, as to why metallic bonding (not with free metals, mind you) rarely found it's way into biology.
20:21.53XhoHm dunno what to do
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20:22.38GhelaeXho: You could start planning the War of Ages rehaul.
20:22.46XhoI would
20:23.04XhoBut considering I have Tantum and then like 3 other stories going right now it probably isn't a good idea
20:23.50dromMonet: Sometimes, but it mostly depend on their evolutionary history and described biology.
20:24.42GhelaeThat's why you would only start planning it, not actually doing anything significant with it.
20:24.46dromHm, it feels alot better when I shaved away my mustache and beard.
20:25.01dromAnd left my sideburns.
20:25.31GhelaeNot that I have any idea how to start planning it, let alone what it would be like.
20:25.39Monetdrom: No i mean did you base the toughness level by partially looking at other species
20:25.47Wormy_awayI don't think we should change the story too much.
20:26.00Wormy_awayI like the story it is very memorable and nostalgic
20:26.23Wormy_awayBut it could do with extensions and better writing
20:26.47GhelaeThat's the main idea.
20:27.40Monetbut fro mhow you described the skin, 400TP does sound a bit excessive since you compared it to leather and an exoskeleton and in some cases human skin
20:28.06Wormy_awayFun fact:  human skin is tougher than dog skin
20:28.09XhoMonet: I suppose the higher toughness does go hand in hand with advanced weaponry which could cut through it
20:28.58Wormy_awayDog owners should keep that in mind when dogs get wounds and they compare it to their own
20:29.45dromMonet: the heck do I know? I still can't deny the fact it's a bit excessive.
20:30.25XhoI think even with 400 TP more advanced weapons could burn a hole/disintegrate
20:30.58MonetI can see genetically engineered races possibly having a toughness level that high.
20:32.05Monetbut if its natural that potentially implies that until a species created strong eoungh weapons they found it difficult to kil leach other though wounding.
20:32.27Wormy_awayThe Cloverfield monster was said to survive weapons fire due to it's resistance to the pressure of the deep ocean.  The director hinted that the Stealth bombers managed to kill it though
20:32.31MonetUnless, like above, the species modified itself
20:33.02Wormy_awayDoesn't say much about the material of it's skin, but it must have good structural integrity
20:33.33MonetSome species like rhinos and elephants can withstand weapons that would injure a human
20:33.48Monetsay a single arrow
20:33.54MonetThey have notoriously tough skin
20:35.58Wormy_awayI wonder what Godzilla is made of
20:36.19MonetBut this is what I am talking about with chitin
20:36.53XhoWormy_away: It's made of Japan
20:36.56Monetthe same principle that makes rhino and elephant hide so tough - its thickness - would make perhaps a couple of inches of chitin effective armour
20:37.27dromWormy: I found godzilla's rival. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamera
20:37.42drom"The Friend of All Children"
20:38.12GhelaeMonet: If we do keep the stats system, pehaps the page could be edited to specify, for example, 5 TP corresponds to 1cm-thick chitin plate?
20:40.13MonetMakes sense.
20:40.56WormyI wonder how much chitin it takes to be equivalent to tank armour to stop a small missile
20:41.52Wormyis to lazi to do the maths
20:43.50Avilladoxdoes a google search, but instead finds a my MLP fanfic
20:44.27MonetWair what?
20:44.59AvilladoxYep.
20:45.31dromI wonder what would equalient this? http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/Chitin_Plating
20:47.50Monetchitin, and MLP.
20:47.59Monethow?
20:48.43dromGoogle adapts on which sites you have been and searches you have done.
20:49.26WormyMLP and Shrek and Ainsley are everywhere
20:49.45Avilladoxdrom:Well that explains the Pathfinder supplement, but not the MLP
20:49.52WormyIt is the substrate of the internetr
20:51.15AvilladoxMy computer is full of ponies.
20:51.31AvilladoxI never thought I'd get to type that.
20:51.50dromMonet: I based after this.
20:51.51dromhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_topics/Stats#Creature_Scale_Units
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20:52.58Zmr56Back, did I miss anything?
20:52.59Sporeraptorhi
20:53.03Zmr56Hi
20:53.20AvilladoxMy search about chitin got me an MLP fanfic
20:53.46AvilladoxI don't know what else you missed, since I don't know when you left
20:54.00dromAvilladox: Even this gives you MLP fanfic? https://www.google.se/search?q=chitin&oq=chitin&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
20:54.03Monetdrom: I think I see what's ahppening here
20:55.14Avilladoxdrom: Not just the word, I was researching the how much chitin could stop a missile question
20:55.17MonetYou've listed them as "physically very strong", I think most races at this level were probaably intened ot either be giants, augments or muscle with bones.
20:56.42drom*brakes heavily*
20:56.47Monet150SP is about 7x human strength
20:57.40dromDraconis is 10 times thougher than a natural chitin armour.
20:58.15dromtougher*
20:58.18WormyGrimbolsaurians have very tough skin
20:58.34WormyTexture of a Crocodile, rather than an insect though
20:59.01WormyIt is a misconception that Grimbies are insectoids
21:00.17dromSo what's your determination of their skin then?
21:00.40XhoIt's rather amazing that we have to explain things
21:00.42XhoThen again, sci-fi
21:01.13Monetdrom: Humans have 0 TP and an SP of 20 on the scale.
21:01.35Monetyet I can punch someone and not tear their skin open. You can't really swap over the two stats
21:01.37WormyXho:  We enjoy explaining things
21:01.57XhoI can't explain something in a scientific manner which is my ultimate problem
21:01.58WormyI've seen skin broken in UFC
21:02.10dromUFC?
21:02.17XhoDrom: Cage fighting
21:02.21HachimanI just pin unrealistic or inconsistent stuff as a passive effect of Chaos
21:02.25WormyUltimate Fighting Championship
21:02.31dromXho: Ah, I see now.
21:03.04XhoI need to make an Aliens Guy meme picture with a Xhodocto head, with the caption; "Chaos"
21:03.10XhoOr just "Xhodocto"
21:04.10XhoI can do things well in Fantasy because mainly it's just describing hideously otherworldly things which a lot of artistic licence
21:05.06dromMonet: I see, but I think I have came too far away to find a way around to fix the unjustified amount of TP.
21:07.05dromWhat would #sporewiki's suggestion on a fair value? I'm terrible on this.
21:07.59XhoFairness doesn't really run in the stats system
21:09.07MonetBasically if a concept or a system exists, someone, there's going ot be a competetive battle
21:10.25XhoPretty much
21:10.37dromWell. I still can agree on to decrease my species' TP from 400 to anything less than 110. Least 30TP
21:11.06*** join/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda (79de3715@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.222.55.21)
21:11.15AdmiralPandahello all
21:11.26Xhosoup
21:11.33dromAnd if that's unjustified, my range would then be 15-80
21:13.16Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akl6OK2HUNA This is why you do not mess with Khal Drogo
21:15.22Ghelae~give AdmiralPanda a cookie
21:15.22infobotACTION gives AdmiralPanda a home-baked peanut butter cookie to cheer him up.
21:15.52Ghelaedrom: If this is based on their natural abilities, then 30 TP is equivalent to having a 6cm-thick exoskeleton.
21:15.53AdmiralPandauses the cookie as a power source for an experimental Hachification laser, which turns anyone it hits into an anthropomorphic rabbit
21:16.35dromWhat would be equalient of 100TP?
21:16.43dromequivalent*
21:16.45GhelaeIt's not complicated maths.
21:16.51Ghelae~100/5
21:16.51infobot20
21:17.15Avilladoxsurrounds himself with mirrors to defend from Hachification laser
21:17.32dromSo where does the 5 come from, what is that factor called?
21:17.47Ghelae5 TP = 1cm-thick shell.
21:18.13drombtw, found an interesting positison when taking some pictures of my space station. http://i.imgur.com/Hus19sr.png
21:18.21Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKT20_bHwuY Also why you don't mess with Khal Drogo
21:26.25XhoWell that killed the conversation
21:28.09dromXho: You are found guility for killing #sporewiki
21:28.14dromAnd you must...
21:28.35dromshowered with kittens.
21:28.36Avilladoxwaits in suspense
21:28.41XhoBeen there done that
21:29.47dromAnd then you'll get the finest dinner at your resturant of your choice.
21:30.12XhoThis is quite the reward for committing mass murder
21:30.16XhoShould do it more often
21:31.12dromAnd you'll be able to choose to watch TV-show of your choice.
21:31.28AdmiralPandasecretly switches all TV channels to Justin Beiber marathons
21:31.37dromThen you'll be granted with a piece of paper and a pen.
21:31.55Zmr56switches TV to Xhodonna marathons
21:32.15MonetNOOOH Oh wait I'm not wathing TV tright now /watches BBC iPLayer
21:33.09Avilladoxbacks away from his TV
21:33.18dromBecause you'll be sent to nearby insituation to be executed.
21:33.27dromThe method of execution will be...
21:34.18AvilladoxListening to me sing
21:34.59dromTickling you with a feather until you die by cardic arrest.
21:35.50AvilladoxI'm honestly not sure which one is cruler.
21:37.39dromOntop that, you are forced to watch a series of Justin beiber, rick-n-roll, Madonna and a documentary on fedora-tipping neckbeards.
21:37.48HachimanThere's a mockumentary on television about mermaids
21:38.35WormyWhat I see when people tease xho http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/bullying_a_dragon_862.jpg
21:38.58XhoIn real life perhaps
21:39.06XhoBut considering all I am to the rest of you is text
21:39.12XhoI can't really do much hur
21:39.44dromXho: It's time for you to serve your punishment.
21:40.50GhelaeI'm going to go now. Bye!
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21:42.38Xhodrom: Gimme 10 mintues
21:42.40Xho*minutes
21:44.20AvilladoxHachiman: I saw one with some pretty freaky looking Mermaids
21:44.42dromXho: No, we got no time to kiss goodbye to your Kicath contacts, beers and satanic gods.
21:44.55dromOff to the cell with you!
21:44.55XhoOh Christ
21:45.41dromAnd no goats!
21:46.13Xhobah
21:47.00AvilladoxFoolish mortal. One does not simply lock up Xho.
21:47.12XhoIt's easier than it looks
21:47.20dromHe has nothing to bring to his cell.
21:47.27dromNothing, nothing.
21:47.46drom*takes Xho's immortality away*
21:48.08Sporeraptorbye
21:48.13drombye
21:48.31drom1 sec too late.
21:48.34drombah
21:54.21Zmr56My gaming life is getting lonely :(
21:54.42dromYou got me.
21:55.28Zmr56Aye, you and Tek and Drodos
21:55.48dromhttp://i.imgur.com/CdMokwb.png
21:56.14Zmr56But Civ 5 keeps crashing, I suck at TF2 and Gmod I have no idea what the hell I'm doing
21:56.53dromshaddap playing civ5 on windows 8
21:57.00dromwin8 is the shit
21:57.11Zmr56^
21:57.24dromNo support for XP-mode.
21:57.34dromMany game of mines crashes alot on that.
21:57.52Zmr56I have to deal with Win8, you know what adults are like getting all the latest stuff
21:58.07Zmr56Win7 is alright
21:58.30dromIt's better if you have the edition better than professional.
21:58.51Zmr56There's also Minecraft...
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21:59.34MonetI prefer Windows 7
21:59.34Zmr56Minecraft is full of crack head kids now
21:59.40Zmr56Hi
21:59.43dromhi
22:00.45Technobliteratorwindows 8 is godawful
22:01.01Zmr56And I've already had a good match of DotA 2 for today, don't want to over do it
22:01.26Technobliteratorit's just Dota, not DotA
22:01.41Zmr56Meh, I like the Extra A
22:01.46dromMan, I need some good bucks to upgrade my license to professional. So I can use my XP-mode.
22:01.47TechnobliteratorI don't
22:01.49Technobliterator:c
22:01.52Zmr56Sometimes I call it DotAnus :£
22:02.08dromSo I can play nostalgia games such as Civ2 ToT
22:02.13Zmr56*:3
22:03.13dromDotAtoe
22:03.19dromDot-a-Toe
22:04.09XhoDawn of the Game That Drains People's Souls Out
22:04.15Xho2
22:04.16dromMake it, Smash-a-toe
22:04.18Zmr56I like DotA, it's one of the few games where I don't care about winning
22:04.19OfficerJackal_I don't understand the hate for Window 8 really, it starts up faster for me then Windows 7, and I've grown to like the start-menu with all of the apps and stuff on it. Plus, it has much better security then Windows 7.
22:04.28OfficerJackal_:/
22:04.33TechnobliteratorI do
22:04.38Zmr56Many games crash on Win8
22:04.41dromWin8 has no support for XP-mode.
22:04.42TechnobliteratorWindows 8 is an embarassing piece of shit from a shitty company
22:04.49Zmr56AYE!
22:04.49dromWin7 has it.
22:05.05Technobliteratorhurr durr ill just remove the start button and make an OS for a tablet on a PC
22:05.06MonetIts designed more for tablets
22:05.11Technobliteratorgenius microsofto
22:05.15Technobliterator10 out of bloody 10
22:05.15dromWith the XP-mode, you can play nostalgia and old games, such as Civ2.
22:05.43OfficerJackal_backs up into a corner, as the hordes of the Windows 7 army corner him, while he mutters "I should not have said that... I should not have said that..." before boxes of the Windows 7 OS filled with concrete get thrown at thim.
22:05.56TechnobliteratorWindows 7 army?
22:05.59Technobliteratoris a linux user
22:06.06XhoWindows 8 seems alright to me
22:06.12Zmr56is the commander of the Army
22:06.19Zmr56NO MERCI!
22:06.32dromI got Linux and Win7 at one machine.
22:06.37drom1 Macbook
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22:06.41Avilladoxducks into a hole to avoid the war
22:06.45Zmr56Apart from the Game crashes I don't mind
22:06.46AvilladoxHi
22:06.48XhoBetter enjoy it while it lasts as Windows 8 will be mainstream support by 2106
22:06.48Zmr56Hi
22:06.51Xho2016 even
22:06.51dromAnd the black sheep of my collection, the bloody friggin' 8.
22:07.59dromXho: Windows Infinite
22:08.45Technobliteratorwell microsoft is a company who sucks balls
22:08.52Technobliteratorand will hopefully die soon
22:08.58Technobliterator(can't wait)
22:08.58dromAnd root
22:09.12MonetMicrosoft are alreadyp lanning to bring out Windows 9
22:09.17XhoI prefer Microsoft to Apple
22:09.19Technobliteratorthat's a no braienr
22:09.23Technobliteratoroh yeah, so do I
22:09.28dromMonet: Gib source
22:09.39XhoUsing both a Mac and then a PC
22:10.03XhoBoth are good but I just prefer using a PC to a mac
22:10.14TechnobliteratorI prefer Macs
22:10.24Technobliteratorbetter software
22:10.32Xho"better software"
22:10.33dromWin9 looks no more different than Win8
22:10.36XhoIt's the same software
22:10.36Monethttp://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/windows-9-release-date-news-and-rumours-1029245
22:10.39Technobliteratorno it's not
22:10.46Technobliteratorlogic pro does not exist on windows
22:10.52dromI call bs on the difference between win9 and win8.
22:11.04Technobliteratorlogic pro is the only thing I care about on a computer anymore, other than maybe Final Fantasy and a web browser
22:11.05MonetXho what did you do
22:11.10Technobliterator(barely play dota ever though)
22:11.17XhoMonet: I did a lot of things
22:12.02XhoFor the most part the basic tasking software you use for the Mac and then for the Windows are the same
22:12.35Technobliteratorimplying logic pro is basic tasking software
22:12.43XhoIt's not
22:12.56Technobliteratoroh wait
22:12.59Technobliteratorok I misread you
22:13.00Technobliteratorlmao
22:14.24dromdis misreading will be headline in the next issue of sporenews *tries to twist 360 degrees*
22:14.25MonetPC and Mac arguments never end well
22:14.40Technobliteratormacs are infinitely better and I wish I had a mac
22:14.40dromMonet: Don't forget Linux.
22:14.47Technobliteratorlinux is the best overall
22:14.48Technobliteratorjust not enough
22:14.52Technobliteratorsoftware for it
22:15.26dromIt sucks though that Spore cannot installed on Macs. Even it could by a CD.
22:15.35dromThrough steam.
22:15.41XhoMac software is *incredibly* expensive though
22:15.54XhoWait hold on lemme rephrase
22:15.56Technobliteratormac everything is incredibly expensive :P
22:16.01drom^
22:16.04XhoMac desktops are *incredibly* expensive though
22:16.08Technobliteratorhell, APPLE everything is incredibly expensive
22:16.21XhoI mean a Mac Pro with full specs is £13,950
22:16.51MonetThat's what I like about a PC
22:17.05MonetYou can get a good-end PC for £600
22:17.10dromhttp://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/apple-logic-express-9-280193.jpg
22:17.12Technobliteratormac pro is retarded
22:17.19Technobliteratorjust get normal mac
22:17.39XhoNormal Macs still start at £1,600
22:17.43MonetPlus I don't have to buy a new PC when I want to upgrade it
22:17.44dromApple's Logic Express look to be promising to replace Logic Pro
22:17.48XhoWell
22:17.53drom</s>
22:17.58Xho£1,149 actually
22:17.58OfficerJackal_Actually, you can get Spore to work on a Mac of a current OS... I think, but it involves editing some obscure file inside of the game..
22:18.10OfficerJackal_I forgot it. XD
22:18.33dromI still find the Mac OS more troublesome than Win8
22:18.44Technobliteratorwhat
22:18.46Technobliterator:|
22:18.51Technobliteratormac os is infinitely better
22:19.00Technobliteratormaybe it's a blonde thing but win8 sucks
22:19.02DrodoEmpireWindows 8 isn't that bad; I'm using it right now.
22:19.06MonetScreenshots are harder ot take
22:19.18dromOfc it's, but using the tools and the File Explorer is complicated.
22:19.19Moneton a Mac
22:19.32DrodoEmpireIt takes getting used to, sure, but in the end I actually find it intuitive.
22:19.38Technobliteratorno?
22:19.41dromBecause some of the core files are hidden. So you have to manually type in the path to access them.
22:19.44Technobliteratorscreenshots are easier to take on a mac
22:19.52Technobliteratorjust moving your mouse down to click grab
22:20.00Technobliteratoris easier than whatever the hell I have to do on windows
22:20.06DrodoEmpireAnd before you call me an "idiot" or some crap; Yes, I used other OSes before, and I like Win8.
22:20.25dromwin7 and linux are the masterrace
22:20.33Technobliteratornope
22:20.37Technobliteratorlinux is master race
22:20.39XhoI think for gamers especially Windows definitely beats Mac
22:20.45dromand if win7 is earsed from extience, go SteamOS.
22:21.08dromAnd earse your hellspawn from your computer, premanetly.
22:21.37drompermanent*
22:21.52MonetTechnobliterator: There's a button labeled "print screen" on a PC you dum
22:22.07DrodoEmpire^
22:22.21dromMonet: I couldn't find it on my Macbook Slim through.
22:22.38MonetMacs don't have a print screen butto
22:22.40Monetbutton
22:22.55dromOh well. I thought it was only my Macbook.
22:23.24Technobliteratoryeah
22:23.30Technobliteratorpress the printscreen button
22:23.39Technobliteratorinstantly lose it because you have no idea where it went
22:23.59DrodoEmpire.me facepalms
22:24.00dromSo. I got Ubuntu and Win7 in my machine, which I am currently using.
22:24.03MonetUsually when I press print screen I instantly dump it into paint.net
22:24.11DrodoEmpirefacepalms
22:24.44dromTechnobliterator, PrtScr copies your current display to the desktop.
22:25.08Technobliteratorand?
22:25.26dromBy that, I mean. It simply copies what you are seeing in your monitor and you have to paste it in some software, like GIMP, Paint.net or MS Paint.
22:25.36Technobliterator...yeah?
22:25.44dromSave, and then you are done.
22:25.52DrodoEmpireThat means you don't lose it instantly like you said.
22:25.52XhoOf course you could totally defeat the entire purpose and get Parallels Desktop on a Mac and own both OS and Windows
22:25.57DrodoEmpireKeep up. :P
22:26.02TechnobliteratorI know what it does, you know. But Grab is infinitely easier to use
22:26.03XhoThat's one of the things a Mac does have over a PC though
22:26.13Technobliteratorthere is no "paint.net" bullshit involved
22:26.34dromThere's also downloadable software that works almost like Mac's screenshooting feature.
22:26.39DrodoEmpireIts not "bullshit"; You seem to be getting overly heated about this. :P
22:26.52XhoBut it is kind of odd that you can use Windows on a Mac
22:26.58XhoSort of defeats the purpose of having a Mac
22:27.37XhoI use that at work and I'm not quite sure why we use a Mac
22:27.38dromXho: My school probhits users from installing any OS else than the Mac's standard issue.
22:27.51Technobliteratorit is pretty bullshit
22:27.53Xhodrom: Well that's silly hur
22:27.57Technobliteratorbecause it's rage inducing
22:28.07XhoBut I dunno why we use a Mac at work when we use Windows as well
22:28.16DrodoEmpireNot if you how, Tech.
22:28.25TechnobliteratorI do know how
22:28.27Technobliteratorstill rage inducing
22:28.28dromXho: Because they think you are destroying your computer on purpose by that.
22:28.32DrodoEmpireTo take a screenshot; A few extra steps, oooh
22:28.35Xhohur
22:28.36dromAnd don't ask me why.
22:28.52dromJust... typical school policies.
22:28.53HachimanComputers at my college are installed with both Mac and Windows 7
22:29.08XhoI think it's mainly because our main business dataflow system is only supported by Windows
22:29.45XhoThen again there's only four people in the company who use Macs
22:29.51XhoMyself and three others
22:30.04XhoAnd we all use it mainly for the design software
22:30.27dromWhy is it better for design software than the counter-part?
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22:30.39XhoNo clue
22:32.02XhoI think the main attraction to a Mac is that it looks contemporary and innovative so people choose it
22:33.08XhoBut I do find the Mac to be infuriating sometimes
22:34.04XhoAs for the the software we use
22:34.07XhoWell...that's expensive
22:34.13dromWindows laptops = bricks
22:34.24dromMacs = razor blades
22:34.24WormyMy PC outperforms my Dad's Mac and they are pretty similar in power, except mine can render stuff in Maya a third faster
22:35.44XhoWe use Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Acrobat Pro, QuarkXPress
22:36.10dromdohohohodododo. "QuarkXPress"
22:36.19dromMade me chuckle
22:36.32Xhoy
22:36.48Hachimancuz quark
22:37.15dromquark is also the sound of a quarking duck
22:37.28XhoSo you're looking at over £2,000 of software there
22:37.41XhoQuark in itself is over £800 I think
22:38.52WormyThree quarks for muster mark!
22:39.02dromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark
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22:39.13Xhohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuarkXPress dis u stoopid
22:40.23Wormydrom:  Its quack
22:40.39dromXho: We are not stupid, we are scientists.
22:41.19Zmr56wot da hell is dis compootah stoof
22:41.26XhoI dunno really
22:41.28Zmr56is mind boggoled
22:41.32dromWormy: Whenever I try imitate that sound, "quark" is one of them.
22:41.50XhoBut yes, bottom line is, I still think Windows has a lot over Mac
22:42.03Zmr56http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406223652/spore/images/5/56/Spore_2014-04-06_23-35-14.png It's a WIP Space Station
22:42.21XhoDespite Windows 8 being slightly clunky
22:42.44Monet"quark" is how posh ducks do it
22:42.55dromZmr56: <Zmr56> http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406223652/spore/images/5/56/Spore_2014-04-06_23-35-14.png It's a WIP Space Station
22:42.58TybusenMicrosoft really has to actively try to screw themselves over if they are ever going to lose the desktop computer field to Mac
22:42.59dromWhat
22:43.12dromNo.
22:43.18dromZmr56: I mean't this. http://i.imgur.com/RZ5YFLl.png
22:43.24drommeant*
22:43.34dromfite me now
22:43.46Zmr56MINE IS MADE OUT OF PAPER!
22:43.56Xhohttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140319150826/spore/images/5/5e/CenescaraeMegaconstruct.png I ENTER THE RING
22:44.35Zmr56Looks dumba pffft
22:44.38dromXho: I hate it when it looks like a Maya/Blender render.
22:44.50WormyMonet:  Southerner ducks
22:44.57XhoDrom: eh
22:46.07MonetI feel like remodeling my DI space station now
22:46.08dromnvm, I'm familiar with Blender and Maya anyway.
22:47.28XhoIf I only had the patience to learn how to use Maya or Blender
22:47.39XhoI'd make models/settings for things
22:49.10XhoAnyway I'm going to sleep now because tired
22:49.21Wormybye
22:49.41AvilladoxBye
22:53.02Zmr56Sleep nicely
22:53.09Zmr56:3
22:53.40dromOkay. Here's NC's space station.
22:53.41dromhttp://i.imgur.com/eCP2B48.png
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22:54.29HachimanLooks Eldar-like
22:54.35dromThe russians and austrailians should be awake now.
22:54.41dromAnd asians.
22:54.52Liquid_InkHello
22:54.55HachimanOn the contrary, Imp is long asleep
22:54.59Wormy^
22:55.16dromHe's still in Israel?
22:55.20WormyI don't think we have any Eastern Russians here
22:55.31HachimanNah he's come back
22:55.34WormyHe went back, yesterday I think
22:55.38dromAh.
22:56.05drombrb googling "eldar" and then off to sleep
22:56.59dromsome w40 faction
22:57.03MonetThat station looks good for cutting things
22:57.08dromw40k*
22:57.09HachimanAye
22:57.15HachimanEldar are fukin awesome
22:57.36Wormyelves in spaaaic
22:57.47dromHere's one in the orbit. http://i.imgur.com/RZ5YFLl.png
22:57.51HachimanAye but they're advanced elves
22:58.15Monet"some wh40k faction"
22:58.37WormyWe have a lot of teaching to do
22:58.38MonetHow dare you insult the Eldar you ignorant mon'kaigh!
22:58.44dromFunny how...
22:59.14dromeldar = (he's) burning (firewood)
22:59.33dromSo "Han eldar ved" = "He's burning firewood"
22:59.33Zmr56Nnnngh intensifies! I can't put the Red Star of Mardvaeli on my Space Station! :(
22:59.54WormyWhy?
23:00.07dromIt's 1 at night here.
23:00.20WormyIn Adventure editor or space editor?
23:00.22dromTime for bed
23:00.49Wormy1 hour behind
23:01.01Wormy00:00
23:01.24Zmr56Space Editor
23:01.52*** join/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda (~anonymous@103.21.134.111)
23:02.00WormyThere is a few things you can do
23:02.09Zmr56Hello
23:02.11drombtw, something I just realized, "eldar" = "eld" in pural form. And "eld" = fire.
23:02.14dromnight.
23:02.30Zmr56Go to sleep ya Swedish drag queen
23:02.45WormyFor one, make sure each object has been separated by it's symmetrical twin thing (I forget the name of this)
23:03.25WormyIf you can't relieve the complexity metre
23:04.10AngrybirdsA defining episode in French Andromedan history: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ABattle_of_Chodia.png
23:04.17WormyYou could cheat (but you might not save), or make the symbol separately, and place both models (as objects) in the adventure editor together
23:04.32AdmiralPandahi all
23:04.42WormyOr take pictures of both objects then add them as layers in an image editing program
23:05.28HachimanPhotos have layers
23:06.08Zmr56Hi
23:06.56Zmr56Angrybirds: the red atmosphere makes the battle look very intense and harsh
23:07.15AngrybirdsI was very happy to discover that. :P
23:09.24Zmr56http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406230840/spore/images/5/56/Spore_2014-04-06_23-35-14.png TADADADADA!
23:09.29WormyI just thought of something
23:09.35AngrybirdsZmr56 : NICE
23:09.42WormyThere should be a science news channel.
23:09.47Zmr56is pleased
23:09.58AngrybirdsWormy : SciShow
23:10.03Zmr56WOrmy: That sounds like a good diea
23:10.08AngrybirdsZmr56 : What is that.
23:10.09Angrybirds?
23:10.23Zmr56Tis a Space Station
23:10.32WormyAngrybirds:  On TV
23:10.49WormyI still watch that archaic thing sometimes
23:10.53AngrybirdsWormy : Why are you looking for quality programming on TV?
23:11.23WormyI'm proposing good quality programming.
23:11.41WormyI'd watch science news channel all day
23:13.24Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1977188_431816756962672_5194846385607872340_n.png
23:14.22MonetZmr56: Those fins almost look like they're levitating
23:14.45Zmr56heh they do
23:15.39Zmr56Well they look like they're levitating I mean
23:15.44Zmr56Oh wellsie gtg
23:15.51Zmr56BYE YA nice people
23:21.10Wormyhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26912064
23:22.23AngrybirdsToyed with the brightness/contrast a bit: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406232123/spore/images/c/c5/Battle_of_Chodia_3.png
23:23.59Liquid_InkWho dey fighting with?
23:24.31AngrybirdsThe Xenians, a race of Andromedan natives with whom they didn't exactly get along.
23:24.54Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Andromedan_Colonies#Xenian_War
23:27.45Wormyhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26844425
23:28.00WormyI thought I was coughing and sneezing more this last couple of days
23:29.34WormyHachiman, Monet:  Have you two experienced heightened levels of irritation
23:29.48HachimanA bit
23:30.05WormyIt is possibly the Saharan dust
23:30.44Liquid_InkI made a GESS ship a couple of days ago
23:30.58Liquid_InkJust a recolour of an Ottoman frigate, though.
23:31.26AngrybirdsGreat!
23:35.06Wormyngh nanny state strikes again http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-26910318
23:36.33WormyI like how the runners did the marathon anyway
23:36.40Wormyand none of them suffered
23:37.36WormyOh god this is so funny
23:37.48WormyI'm so pleased this time, the nanny state failed
23:38.00HachimanAye I am happy
23:38.16HachimanShows how determined people are
23:39.48WormyIndeed, why should they have their time wasted?  And they know what they are doing, they need more respect
23:44.58Wormythis is an age when we have five your old hackers http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26879185
23:46.29AdmiralPandai don't really call it hacking tbh
23:46.49AdmiralPandajust got lucky typing stuff in
23:47.58MonetI prefer PSN
23:48.10WormyI was joking you killjoy
23:48.21AdmiralPanda:P
23:49.15WormyI heard a woman killed herself because the digital age was too much for her
23:49.25WormyI'm trying to look for the article
23:49.31AdmiralPandanot surprised
23:51.33OfficerJackal_Meh, I don't particularly blame her, some people can't just deal with all the stuff that is happening now, either because it all happened too quickly or they just can't adapt to their evolving world, and they want things to stay the same.
23:51.58OfficerJackal_But I'm no psychiatrist, so I can't really say for sure. :/
23:53.18WormyI think she may have had underlying problems
23:54.06OfficerJackal_Yeah, most likely.
23:54.07WormyThey might have caught the guy behind that silly microsoft scam http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26818745
23:54.27WormyOr probably one of them
23:54.57WormyI've been called by scammers like them several times
23:55.20OfficerJackal_I've had the fortune not to be, although I'd probably just fuck with them if they did call here.
23:57.26WormyYes, I had fun with them
23:57.46WormyOne time they called, I told thgem I didn't have a computer, I was a luddite
23:57.58WormyAnd that I only keep a phone to talk to god
23:58.19WormyI asked him if he was god
23:58.30Wormythen he put the phone down
23:58.35OfficerJackal_Lol. XD

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