00:01.04 | Liquid_Ink | Spu: Sure |
00:01.11 | Spu | Right good good |
00:01.14 | Liquid_Ink | I would feel honoured. |
00:01.30 | Monet | I'd say the whole "who is this guy" angle they were doing for Winter Soldier was for those who don't know who he really is |
00:02.09 | Spu | So I think the idea is that whilst Nihilchthonia sits at Caligaduro's waist, Caligaduro probably holds the rest of the universes up on his shoulders or his hands, or something like that |
00:02.44 | TekDroid | The ending is a real "wait... what?", especially for the people who DO know the comics |
00:02.44 | Spu | Either that or he holds the 'ceiling' of the three lowest universes whilst the higher universes float independently |
00:02.52 | Spu | Actually I like that version more |
00:03.38 | Monet | TekDroid: So...it wasn't him? |
00:03.49 | TekDroid | No, it was. |
00:04.16 | TekDroid | It's the rest of story |
00:05.37 | Spu | So what did we decide on |
00:05.44 | Spu | On which Simulacra planes went where |
00:05.53 | OluapPlayer | We never decided anything |
00:12.47 | OluapPlayer | Spu: You willing to rp right now or is it too late? |
00:14.25 | Spu | What for |
00:14.28 | OluapPlayer | Ice Cube |
00:14.51 | Spu | Well it is too late for me anyway |
00:15.00 | OluapPlayer | baw |
00:15.08 | OluapPlayer | I'll ask another day then |
00:15.35 | Liquid_Ink | I need to make Nihilchthonia in Spore, but I'm terrible at caves. |
00:16.49 | Spu | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406001602/spore/images/6/67/Fantasyverseverses.png This is sort of how I see the Fantasyverse and all of the universes above and below it |
00:17.08 | Spu | I left Outworld out because I don't know Imperios' stand on it |
00:17.32 | OluapPlayer | Zran Kar - my neighbors below are all ghey |
00:17.44 | Spu | Caligaduro - *knocks on ceiling* shup |
00:18.27 | Spu | Personally I would have put Id under Sanguine Hill |
00:18.50 | OluapPlayer | I'd have put the Underworld above Id, but other than that it seems about right |
00:20.20 | Spu | And there's the Elvish Pantheon plane/planes of existence that might exist directly below Midnight or above Zenith |
00:20.45 | Spu | If they exist that is I don't know much about it |
00:22.48 | Spu | I might say some spoilers now about Midnight and Zenith if you want to hear them |
00:22.58 | Liquid_Ink | Yes please. |
00:23.02 | Wormy | There's a potential worldlet that docks with the horizon allowing travel |
00:23.16 | Spu | Wormy: In that case Outworld is the one directly above Koldenwelt |
00:23.28 | Wormy | Could it be Outworld? |
00:23.53 | Spu | Probably, Imperios shows it as a planet/moon |
00:24.03 | Spu | Anyway Midnight and Zenith |
00:24.11 | OluapPlayer | Remind me what Zenith is hur |
00:24.17 | Spu | Sun Phoenix realm |
00:24.25 | OluapPlayer | Right |
00:25.16 | Spu | Beings such as Soldalatel and Aethereus have tenuous identities as the deities of Midnight and Zenith and might just be very powerful entities in the hierarchy but not the very top |
00:25.26 | Spu | Nalashtannylor as well and Kinmorunddraver |
00:26.05 | Spu | Since Caligaduro has ravaged both planes of existence, he may have destroyed the deities of those two realms |
00:27.09 | Spu | If there were such deities of Midnight and Zenith they'd be similar to the Simulacra |
00:27.12 | Spu | Only good and glowy |
00:27.57 | Spu | Kinmorunddraver has a lot of histories that I can't really explain at this current moment as he sort of sticks out |
00:28.39 | Spu | But I'll leave it up to you whether you think Soldalatel and Aethereus are the deities of Zenith and Midnight or not |
00:29.16 | OluapPlayer | The deities are actually Smeevers |
00:29.27 | Spu | Soldalatel - all hail the mighty stupid |
00:29.49 | Spu | As for where Midnight and Zenith are in the tiers of existence, well I dunno |
00:30.11 | Spu | They might be at the very top or they might only be two/three universes above Koldenwelt |
00:32.27 | Spu | Since nothing on Koldenwelt has any historical record the lore regarding Midnight and Zenith only has one form of proof and that's Kinmorunddraver who doesn't talk much about it |
00:32.50 | Spu | Scholars would call it a delicate term named "scrambled and fucked up" |
00:33.31 | Spu | That being said no scholar would actually know about Midnight or Zenith, it's mainly just user information |
00:34.23 | Spu | As opposed to the Simulacra who fuck around with Koldenwelt on a daily basis |
00:34.56 | Spu | Anyway I gotta go sleep because I can feel my lungs inside of my body moving |
00:35.58 | Liquid_Ink | That can't be a pleasant feeling |
00:37.43 | Monet | I like it when I can feel my heart beating at rest |
00:39.12 | Wormy | I actually don't |
00:39.33 | Wormy | I start to think about what it would be like when it stops when I die |
00:39.39 | Hachiman | Aye |
00:41.09 | Monet | A bit morbid |
00:41.50 | Monet | I came to the conclusion a couple of days ago the human heartbeat is probably why songs at 120bpm are somehow soothing. |
00:49.09 | Wormy | Concept craft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAI_Quiet_Supersonic_Transport http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6120132.stm |
01:00.34 | Wormy | shocking http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/video-granny-spinning-gang-target-3377078 |
01:02.41 | Wormy | They should have their arms amputated as punishment |
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01:22.27 | DrodoEmpire | back. |
01:22.33 | Wormy | hi |
02:47.03 | TekDroid | Hello |
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04:14.43 | TekDroid | ~test |
04:14.43 | infobot | [test] not funny |
05:01.29 | TekDroid | I had totally forgot April 5th was First Contact day. XS |
05:01.32 | TekDroid | *XD |
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05:26.20 | TekDroid | Night |
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06:16.48 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
06:18.52 | OfficerJackal | Hey! |
06:26.19 | Angrybirds | drom How's your fiction doing? |
06:26.44 | Liquid_Ink | HOLY SHIT LIGHTNING STRIKE OF DEATH JUST BOOMED |
06:27.03 | Liquid_Ink | And the internet is being slow |
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06:47.52 | drom | Oh hey there Angrybirds. |
06:48.02 | drom | And hello to all |
06:48.42 | Angrybirds | drom Answer teh queshun |
06:49.25 | drom | Well, it's going good. I'm in something that looks like an ultimatum. |
06:49.32 | drom | *glargh* |
06:49.46 | drom | That's the answer to yo question, Angrybirds. |
06:50.09 | Angrybirds | An ultimatum? |
06:52.23 | drom | That I made up by myself. |
06:52.29 | drom | Kinda hard to explain |
06:52.43 | drom | Because the concepts at the both sides are unjustified. |
07:03.07 | Liquid_Ink | Ngh internet |
07:17.33 | Angrybirds | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Laurene_Maxime#Quotes Liquid_Ink Imperios Drom If you guys could add a quote, that would be awesome! |
07:17.45 | drom | I wonder what's the fictionverse's countersy of Halo's Flood and Dead Space's necromorphs. |
07:18.03 | Imperios | The Xhodocto Infernovirus |
07:18.24 | Imperios | The Mechanovirus, too, Liquid_Ink owns it |
07:18.59 | Liquid_Ink | Mechanovirus is the Flood's animlism crossed with the Borg's cyberneticallness |
07:20.19 | Imperios | Liquid_Ink: http://liquidink21.tumblr.com/post/81738524592/i-know-people-are-just-going-to-dismiss-this-as ...Do these guys imply all Muslims are rapists? |
07:20.29 | Liquid_Ink | Yes |
07:20.50 | Liquid_Ink | http://liquidink21.tumblr.com/post/81772128194/australians-on-rape Also this |
07:21.16 | Imperios | Sacrebley |
07:21.19 | drom | The infernovirus has no own page. I'm disappoint |
07:21.23 | Imperios | *Sacrebleu |
07:21.46 | Imperios | By Muslim you mean Middle Eastern in general dontchu |
07:22.22 | Liquid_Ink | Yes. |
07:22.51 | Imperios | Sadly it is like this in Russia too |
07:23.09 | drom | In Sweden too. |
07:23.11 | Imperios | Which is stupid because 6,5% of Russia is Muslim |
07:23.48 | drom | It's like that in every country that fear muslims. |
07:24.11 | Imperios | Well |
07:24.28 | Imperios | We have always been quite Muslim |
07:24.38 | Imperios | You know, the Tatars, for example |
07:25.14 | Liquid_Ink | I feel sorry for the Crimean Tatars |
07:25.19 | Imperios | Or the Caucasians, or the Central Asians; all Muslim |
07:25.24 | Imperios | A bit |
07:25.38 | Imperios | Really, Crimea was theirs first |
07:26.06 | Imperios | In fact it is said that Russian monarchs contemplated adopting Islam at one poimt |
07:26.15 | Imperios | But then rejected it as it prohibited alcohol |
07:27.06 | drom | vodka |
07:27.53 | Imperios | Exactly |
07:34.09 | drom | I'm sure that they are jealous of the Muslims, because they drive better than them. |
07:35.19 | Liquid_Ink | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/dubai/10019228/First-a-Lamborghini-now-Dubai-unveils-police-Ferrari.html |
07:38.09 | Angrybirds | Knight_Alien : How do you think Ioi would have met Maxime? |
07:39.49 | Angrybirds | Knight_Alien : Eh, probably through some kind of government conference held in the Bunsen colonies, she might have met with representatives from Bunsen while she was at it. |
07:40.19 | Knight_Alien | Through his Diplomatic Missions to the French Colonies and he has to study the Empire nad it's leader before he gets their also im sure while he was their he etheir saw her or heard about her. |
07:41.08 | Angrybirds | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Laurene_Maxime#By_others moar quotes, then I go to bed. |
07:41.55 | drom | I can't find one. |
07:42.20 | Knight_Alien | I just got done makeing a flag for the Future Colony in the Milky way http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:MilkyWay_Colony_Flag.png |
07:42.45 | Angrybirds | Drom : It's likely that she might have met the Confederation's head of state through some kind of diplomatic mission to Andromeda. |
07:43.49 | drom | Angrybirds: How? And where in Andromeda? |
07:46.15 | Angrybirds | Drom : Well, she probably would have gone to the Andromedan Colonies first and ceremonially renewed ties with them, and then visited Alcanti and the headquarters of the AGC. |
07:46.43 | Angrybirds | They could have easily have met there, or one of your head of states' subordinates could have. |
07:47.07 | Knight_Alien | good night |
07:47.47 | Angrybirds | That, and the Confed is likely not unaffected by French policy. They might see the Andromedan Colonies slowly slinking back and their foreign policy being replaced by hers, it might be interesting to know what the Confed thinks about that. |
07:48.40 | drom | The Naakji isn't a member in the AGC. |
07:48.59 | Angrybirds | Okay, then scratch the first one, but they are trade partners with the FAC. |
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07:50.07 | Jepardi | Hi |
07:50.27 | drom | Angrybirds: That can be possible. |
07:54.55 | drom | Hey Jepardi |
08:04.28 | drom | Angrybirds: I also forgot to say a thing: Naakji is going to be soon friends/allies with GEC. |
08:05.06 | Angrybirds | Ah, that makes sense. |
08:07.33 | drom | They don't mind if France and all their colonies but the Cyrannian one would keep Naakji at stance. |
08:07.51 | drom | Unless if they are in their way. |
08:08.42 | drom | Okay. I think I have to go. |
08:08.49 | drom | See ya later at afternoon. |
08:08.57 | drom | Or eariler. Hmm |
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08:58.33 | Angrybirds | Imperios : What kind of cerebral implants do the Sporewiki Russian civilians use in general? |
08:58.54 | Imperios | Not sure |
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09:13.10 | drom | So here I am again. |
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09:35.32 | AdmiralPanda | hello |
09:37.25 | drom | 'ello |
09:39.52 | drom | Well, I'll pretend that the Naak have meet France, since it meet the Andromedan colony. |
10:02.23 | drom | There, it now looks better for me. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Naakjian_Confederation#Foreign_Relationships |
10:08.46 | Liquid_Ink | Imperios: Since I lack decent human making skills, would you be so kind as to make an image of some humans for me for the Empire of Man like the other human pics already there? |
10:13.56 | drom | settings test |
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10:42.52 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
10:44.29 | Xho | Morning/Evening |
10:44.31 | Liquid_Ink | HOw are you? |
10:46.42 | Xho | Okay I guess |
10:46.49 | Xho | It's warmer than usual down here today |
10:46.54 | Xho | A BOILING 12 C |
10:48.09 | Liquid_Ink | That must be so hot to you Brits. |
10:53.04 | Liquid_Ink | I'm working on the Nyuumvooraa's page. I make references to two Old Colossi that I have no intention of actually making: "The Nyuumvooraa is known to have slain two Colossi in this conflict, believed by scholars to be the Colossi of Gravity and Fauna." I also give a vague description of Nihilchthonia: "Others say he is simply the most powerful abomination born from the churning ooze of Nihilchthonia." |
11:00.58 | Xho | All makes sense to me |
11:01.23 | Imperios | Liquid_Ink: Sure |
11:01.45 | Imperios | What do you have in mind |
11:01.57 | Imperios | Xho: Lucky you, it's +3 here |
11:02.11 | Liquid_Ink | Negro skin, Kazakh attire. |
11:02.18 | Xho | Imperios: Tropical |
11:03.44 | Imperios | Negro |
11:03.59 | Liquid_Ink | “We are NOT pink.” |
11:04.02 | Imperios | Wait I thought people don't use that word anymore in English |
11:04.25 | Liquid_Ink | They sometimes do. |
11:04.59 | Imperios | Black Central Asians |
11:05.17 | Imperios | A Russian Neo-Nazi's worst nightmare |
11:05.37 | Imperios | *The |
11:07.21 | Liquid_Ink | Although I'm going to base them off Bulgarians to a degree. |
11:09.27 | Imperios | Well Bulgarians are somewhat Turkic |
11:10.58 | Liquid_Ink | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406001602/spore/images/6/67/Fantasyverseverses.png Also Xho wanted to know more about the Outworld for this map-thingy |
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11:22.50 | Imperios | Yes |
11:23.07 | Imperios | I wanted to complain about the Outworld not being present in that picture hur |
11:23.44 | Liquid_Ink | He didn't add it because he didn't know much about it. |
11:25.55 | Imperios | Well it is supposed to be Alar'xashan and Kalisearan's shared plane of existencw |
11:27.01 | Liquid_Ink | Your depiction of it as a planet was what confused him I think. |
11:27.06 | Imperios | That is among the closest to Koldenwelt |
11:27.10 | Imperios | It may be both |
11:27.33 | Imperios | A plane of existence that materialises as a planet in Koldenweltian sky |
11:27.42 | Imperios | *skies |
11:27.46 | Imperios | *manifests |
11:28.22 | Imperios | Liquid_Ink: Ritw |
11:28.24 | Imperios | Rite |
11:28.24 | Liquid_Ink | Maybe it's one of the possible ones between Koldenwelt and Midnight? |
11:28.28 | Liquid_Ink | Rite? |
11:28.30 | Imperios | Makes sense |
11:28.36 | Imperios | Ink: Rite |
11:28.47 | Liquid_Ink | Rite? |
11:28.57 | Imperios | Where are your Afro-Kazakhs going to live? |
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11:29.09 | Hachiman | Hai |
11:29.13 | Imperios | Hi woman |
11:29.29 | AdmiralPanda | Hai Hachiman! |
11:29.29 | Liquid_Ink | Give me a sec |
11:30.26 | Monet | Good moaning. |
11:30.44 | Hachiman | hur |
11:31.36 | Imperios | ^moaning |
11:31.40 | Imperios | Is fitting |
11:31.57 | Liquid_Ink | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/U04jqrM.jpg ROughly in that black circle there |
11:33.06 | Imperios | Alhassan - yay more Nazi bros |
11:33.17 | Imperios | Could work |
11:34.44 | Imperios | Also perhaps their territory could share a border with Tartarion |
11:35.02 | Imperios | It is inspired by Turkic culture |
11:35.24 | Liquid_Ink | Sure |
11:37.44 | Liquid_Ink | Also, should we canonise that river dividing the western landmass from the mainland as The Grand River mentioned on the Koldenwelt page? |
11:38.17 | Imperios | Why not |
11:38.19 | Hachiman | "Grand River" is too generic |
11:38.38 | Liquid_Ink | Get me a good name then. |
11:38.43 | Liquid_Ink | And I'll add it. |
11:38.54 | AdmiralPanda | Serpent's Gorge? |
11:39.17 | Hachiman | Hmm |
11:39.27 | Hachiman | I feel "Divide" should be used somewhere |
11:39.54 | Monet | Imperios: Have you ever heard of this show? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Allo_%27Allo! |
11:40.00 | Liquid_Ink | Serpent's Divide? |
11:40.08 | Imperios | Heard of it? |
11:40.12 | Imperios | *Heard of it |
11:40.27 | Imperios | Actually wait |
11:40.31 | Imperios | No I didn't |
11:44.39 | Monet | I'm not sure why but one of my favourite characters is a British spy disguised as a French Police Officer. |
11:44.59 | Hachiman | Aye I like him as well |
11:45.00 | Monet | With an atrotious grasp on French. |
11:46.12 | Monet | "The troon carrying the painting has been bummed by the RAF." |
11:47.27 | Hachiman | ohgod |
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11:49.11 | Imperios | Hm |
11:49.29 | Imperios | Liquid_Ink: You kinda reminded me of something |
11:49.52 | Liquid_Ink | What? |
11:50.06 | Monet | " Captain Geering: Did they destroy it? | Officer Crabtree: There were little pisses all over the track." |
11:50.43 | Liquid_Ink | I personally am very fond of Dad's Army |
11:50.54 | Hachiman | http://www.deviantart.com/art/Militarum-Tempestus-Codex-Interior-Art-01-445512784 This further stiffens my belief that the Militarum Tempestus are IG-SM hybrids in function |
11:51.03 | Hachiman | And thus make the Sororitas obsolete |
11:51.42 | Monet | So Stormtroopers with more armour? |
11:51.50 | Hachiman | Aye |
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11:52.11 | Monet | Its not exactly a bad iea. |
11:52.17 | Monet | In-universe that is |
11:53.04 | Hachiman | I actually kinda like the Tempestus |
11:53.20 | Monet | Space Marines are too few in number, GUardsmen are too easy to kill. |
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11:55.51 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: Only thing is afaik Tempestus aren't using power armour |
11:55.57 | AdmiralPanda | looks like siege carapace to me |
11:56.18 | AdmiralPanda | correction, it is siege carapace- no power pack |
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11:56.46 | Jepardi | Hi |
11:56.48 | AdmiralPanda | so yeah they are badass, but they don't make the Sisters obsolete just by strapping on carapace :P |
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11:57.44 | Hachiman | Hmm true |
11:57.50 | AdmiralPanda | the Sisters actually fill a very important part of the Imperium's military because they can take the fight to heretical forces with greater effectiveness |
11:58.09 | AdmiralPanda | in fact that's their primary role- to destroy threats to the Imperial Church that the common man can't face |
11:58.17 | Hachiman | Well I hope they get a Codex update soon |
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11:59.49 | Hachiman | Also, am I the only person who wants to see a comeback of the Genestealer Cult army? |
12:01.20 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1922465_431814783629536_5921322451670941464_n.jpg |
12:02.31 | Monet | That is kinda cute. |
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12:03.17 | Hachiman | hai u |
12:03.21 | Monet | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406120143/spore/images/0/00/Paragon%27sDescent01.png Paragon Uriel sat on a wall...paragon Uriel had a great fall... |
12:03.33 | OluapPlayer | omg hai |
12:03.38 | Monet | Hello |
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12:09.25 | Monet | Don't know if anyone remembers that scene |
12:09.30 | Wormy | Hi |
12:09.53 | Wormy | So you could actually avheive the ancient dream of man-powered flight on Titan |
12:10.28 | Wormy | is so jealous of people in the future |
12:11.13 | Wormy | Oh and surf giant waves |
12:11.30 | Liquid_Ink | drags himself away from liking pictures of naked women on tumblr to return to IRC chatting. |
12:11.34 | Liquid_Ink | devours Wormy. |
12:11.38 | Liquid_Ink | Hello, how are you? |
12:11.49 | Wormy | I'm okay |
12:13.51 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/zMRcy6j.png |
12:15.02 | Hachiman | olol |
12:16.17 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/ELs2yjh.png |
12:16.41 | AdmiralPanda | huehuehue |
12:22.35 | OluapPlayer | https://31.media.tumblr.com/a030828ad86463a3a46fce8438c2c2da/tumblr_n30bwwU63x1s02vreo1_400.gif bowling ball |
12:23.37 | AdmiralPanda | daww |
12:25.01 | OluapPlayer | http://u.cubeupload.com/Paramud/vIAsjK.gif have Dilbert |
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12:29.04 | AdmiralPanda | Imperios: Dum y u keep dying when I'm trying to talk to you |
12:31.15 | Liquid_Ink | Imperios: I would also like a flag for the Afro-Kazakhs. I would like it to be predominantly black, any red being more maroon, and a bird of prey symbol on it. |
12:32.04 | Liquid_Ink | I hate to be demanding. You should interpret this as appreciation of your talents at flag making. |
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12:35.42 | LawfulInsane | Hello. |
12:35.49 | LawfulInsane | ~seen Cyrannian |
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12:37.56 | Liquid_Ink | Welcome back. |
12:38.18 | Liquid_Ink | Imperios: Now would be a good time to discuss the Outworld with Xho so he can put it on that map. |
12:38.29 | LawfulInsane | Hello |
12:39.39 | OluapPlayer | spu |
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12:44.13 | Technobliterator | hii |
12:44.13 | LawfulInsane | Hello |
12:44.25 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
12:44.40 | AdmiralPanda | hai techno |
12:45.07 | LawfulInsane | Gonna play Pokemon |
12:45.12 | OluapPlayer | dumba |
12:46.08 | Monet | "Think Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, but with a goat." PC Gamer's intial summaty of Goat SImulator. |
12:46.27 | Technobliterator | ya dad |
12:46.35 | Hachiman | Sounds pretty accurate actually hur |
12:46.55 | Monet | THat's what I like about PC Gamer |
12:47.22 | Monet | All the reviewers are massive game nerds. |
12:47.38 | LawfulInsane | My school once studied a copy of PC Gamer. The front page was Spore. |
12:48.16 | Monet | I think I remember that article |
12:48.37 | Monet | One of the creatures they teased was captioned "Proof that God has a sense of humour" |
12:48.43 | LawfulInsane | XD |
12:50.22 | Monet | I probably should nto mention the score PC gamer gave it. |
12:50.27 | LawfulInsane | And? |
12:50.52 | Monet | "it" in this case I mean Goat Simulator |
12:51.06 | LawfulInsane | It doesn't matter. I'm still listening. |
12:52.48 | Monet | Yeah but there are other GS fans here. |
12:52.56 | LawfulInsane | I know. |
12:55.48 | AdmiralPanda | I'm just waiting for Bear Simulator |
12:55.49 | Hachiman | I like how GS isn't supposed to be srs bsns |
12:55.50 | AdmiralPanda | so I can be an actual bear |
12:59.26 | Technobliterator | urgh |
12:59.33 | Technobliterator | wikia screw the categories so much |
12:59.52 | Technobliterator | they work fine on any other wiki |
12:59.55 | Technobliterator | this one is fucked |
13:00.12 | LawfulInsane | Wow. |
13:01.46 | Wormy | Jo: Do you mean other wiki hosts? |
13:02.09 | Wormy | If there is a SporeWiki specific problem, it might be worth contacting Wikia. |
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13:18.25 | Sporeraptor | hi |
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13:20.39 | Ghelae | Hello. |
13:22.21 | Monet | http://jscfeatures.jsc.nasa.gov/z2/images/multiangles/Trends/scaled/Trends_00007.jpg this is one of the spacesuit designs NASA hopes to implement soon |
13:23.29 | Monet | They've put it to a public vote if peopel want that, this http://jscfeatures.jsc.nasa.gov/z2/images/multiangles/Tech/scaled/Tech_multiangles__00007.jpg or this http://jscfeatures.jsc.nasa.gov/z2/images/multiangles/Bio/scaled/Bio_multiangles_dark__00007.jpg |
13:23.37 | Monet | BTW all three have Tron lines |
13:23.53 | LawfulInsane | Hello |
13:23.57 | Monet | The first one looks like a high-tech tracksuit to me |
13:24.08 | Sporeraptor | hi |
13:27.08 | Wormy | Hello |
13:27.56 | Technobliterator | Wormy: the other wikis are on wikia though |
13:27.58 | Wormy | Monet@ You've got be joking, they are real designs? |
13:28.43 | Wormy | No, these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services |
13:28.51 | Wormy | Are what I meant |
13:29.03 | Wormy | I thought you was talking about those |
13:30.33 | Technobliterator | it's not to do with the hosting site |
13:30.37 | Technobliterator | it's to do with the extensions |
13:30.40 | Technobliterator | and they differ on wikia |
13:30.53 | Hachiman | I like the first designs |
13:30.56 | Technobliterator | we have some dumbass extension that tries to make categorizing easier when it just makes it a pain in the arse |
13:31.00 | Hachiman | Science fiction-y |
13:31.15 | Wormy | Oh I see, yes, like mediawiki and the like |
13:31.51 | Technobliterator | yeah |
13:31.55 | Technobliterator | the mediawiki extensions |
13:32.10 | Wormy | Wikia can't really help us with that |
13:32.16 | Monet | Wormy: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/02/vote-for-nasa-new-spacesuit-design yes these are real |
13:32.20 | Technobliterator | they can if we ask them to uninstall the extension |
13:32.28 | Wormy | Do you know which extension might be causing it? |
13:32.38 | Technobliterator | I can have a good guess as to which |
13:32.45 | Technobliterator | but I'll have to do some research to check |
13:32.58 | Technobliterator | it might not be too big of a problem, but I'll have to see |
13:33.01 | Monet | Hachi: http://jscfeatures.jsc.nasa.gov/z2/images/multiangles/Trends/scaled/Trends_dark_00007.jpg the first design in low light |
13:34.17 | Wormy | Just be sure that extension isn't useful for something-else or has a better alternative. |
13:34.29 | Technobliterator | oh yeah of course |
13:35.10 | Technobliterator | wikia themselves aren;t a bad hosting site, their only problem is that they have a monopoly because they are so good |
13:35.11 | Wormy | Monet: I'm not sure what to think of it, it almost looks too SF to be real. Kinda cool in their own way, I'm sure they are more advanced, too |
13:35.44 | Wormy | I'm a bit mean about wikia tbh, they have always helped us in the past |
13:35.48 | Technobliterator | wikipedia has the same amount of attention and appears just as often in google search results, but they are non-profit so their monopoly is irrelevant |
13:35.53 | Technobliterator | oh yeah definitely |
13:35.59 | Monet | Wormy: One of the suits' key features are that they are attached to the side of the craft, so no irlock required to don them. |
13:36.10 | Technobliterator | if wikia were funded by charity instead of ads, then they would be perfect |
13:36.14 | Monet | airlock* |
13:36.36 | Wormy | Hm, are you sure it's not an April Fool's? |
13:36.55 | Technobliterator | april 02 |
13:36.55 | Wormy | I can't think of any spacecraft we've conceptualised without airlocks |
13:36.58 | Technobliterator | so I guess not |
13:37.06 | Hachiman | No, I saw these designs in concept prior |
13:37.16 | Wormy | That is only when the article was written |
13:37.26 | Technobliterator | scientists hurry up and invent space elevator damnit |
13:37.28 | Hachiman | About a month before |
13:37.55 | Wormy | I think this is really awesome |
13:38.14 | Wormy | new spacecraft technology, new suits, aesthetics shaped by sci-fi itself |
13:38.43 | Wormy | Jo: The Japanese are working on that, so it is in good hands |
13:38.44 | Technobliterator | 2040 before we get our own space elevator :( |
13:38.53 | Technobliterator | yeah, but how long? |
13:39.26 | Wormy | We'll need to find a way to make the carbon nanotube material more failsafe, one crink and whole structure can be compromised |
13:39.46 | Wormy | Then we'll need to find a way to mass produce the stuff, and have it still economical |
13:40.24 | Technobliterator | surely in the long run it will be more economical, right? |
13:40.34 | Wormy | But it would certainly make it cheaper and easier to assemble larger spacecraft and stations. |
13:40.36 | Technobliterator | when you no longer have to spend millions on fuel to get the ships to blast off in the first place? |
13:40.39 | Wormy | Should be |
13:40.57 | Technobliterator | and that would mean that getting fuel to keep spacestations up in the air would be cheaper as well |
13:40.57 | Monet | making crabon nantoubes is a compliex and delicate process. |
13:41.19 | Wormy | I'm more interested in the possibilities oif space industry |
13:41.28 | Monet | Acutally space stations require only minimal fuel to stay in orbit. |
13:41.49 | Wormy | We needn't fear dwindling resources or damage to the biosphere |
13:42.19 | Wormy | If we can extract and possibily even process materials in space |
13:43.07 | Monet | Space stations do need something ot correct their orbits, but these resource demands are practically nonexistant compared to the amount of fuel rockets use to get int oorbit. |
13:43.12 | Wormy | NASA is considering mission to tow an asteroid closer to the Earth and land astronauts on it |
13:43.30 | Wormy | But I think the commercial space programs are actually the future |
13:44.01 | Wormy | I'm sure NASA and the like will still be doing the big exploration missions |
13:44.38 | Wormy | But the corporations will be doing the space industry, the tourism, possibly even colonisation and space-based energy (like microwave-beamed power) |
13:44.53 | Wormy | Maybe geoengineering too |
13:45.42 | Monet | One thing I do like the sound of for SSTO craft is using a laser to heat the hydrogen in an orbiter's fuel tank during takeoff |
13:45.53 | Monet | a laser built on Earth. |
13:46.02 | Monet | well, established on Earth. |
13:48.27 | Wormy | I voted for biomimicry, |
13:50.08 | Monet | I do wonder if this treaty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty bight be a bad idea several years down the line |
13:50.30 | Monet | When humanity becomes a fully-fledged spacefaring species. |
13:52.01 | Monet | I get the feeling numerous nations redacted their part of the treaty during the Human inter-colonial wars. |
13:52.32 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Her_Mongrel_Wolf#Having_Fun_Outside honk donk |
13:53.31 | Hachiman | reed dat |
13:53.57 | Monet | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_heritage_of_mankind also this. I shal lread now. |
13:55.44 | Monet | OKay its interesting that Maryah acts like she's not allowed outside the palace. |
13:55.50 | Wormy | I hope one day we will build things like this http://guitfiddle.deviantart.com/art/Ring-114296585 http://www.deviantart.com/art/Stellar-Engine-121816615 |
13:56.04 | Monet | It definitely shows how shut-in she was |
13:57.11 | Wormy | http://www.deviantart.com/art/Stellar-Engine-121816615 |
13:57.39 | Wormy | http://julian-faylona.deviantart.com/art/Star-Laboratory-330535216 |
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13:59.46 | Monet | How old is Maryah by now? |
13:59.49 | Sporeraptor | hi |
13:59.58 | drom | hey |
14:01.56 | Ghelae | Hello. |
14:02.16 | OluapPlayer | 26 |
14:02.28 | OluapPlayer | No wait, 25 |
14:02.40 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10171841_239840189554007_545766957_n.jpg |
14:02.49 | Hachiman | Dunno what that says about Kezoreg then hur |
14:02.51 | OluapPlayer | hur |
14:03.03 | OluapPlayer | That makes Kezoreg 26 |
14:03.06 | Monet | So 25, and she jsut got grounded. |
14:04.03 | Monet | And pulled home by the ear |
14:04.08 | OluapPlayer | Considering she has the possibility of living over a thousand years, I'd say Maryah is still a teen |
14:04.13 | Hachiman | Aye hur |
14:04.32 | Monet | What's the age of maturity for Dracogonarous/Spinker? |
14:05.01 | Hachiman | It's justified for a Zazane to be pulled home by his/her crest if he cannot overwhelm the one pulling hur |
14:05.21 | OluapPlayer | Not quite sure. Around 30 I imagine |
14:06.04 | drom | Why isn't the fiction trooper infobox not working? |
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14:08.14 | Monet | HAchiman: SO for Zazane its like being held by the scruff of the neck? |
14:08.21 | Hachiman | Aye |
14:09.46 | OluapPlayer | Herquie would've grabbed Kez by the ear, but Zazane don't have ears hur |
14:10.12 | Monet | I can't say i've ever been grabbed by the ear |
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14:10.38 | Hachiman | It hurts hur |
14:10.46 | Monet | I know that much. |
14:11.19 | Sporeraptor | hi |
14:11.31 | Monet | But when I was ever naughty I never recall my mum actually hurting me. |
14:11.47 | Monet | She'd shout, and he has quite a temper. |
14:12.04 | Hachiman | I remember getting grabbed by the ear at school by students |
14:12.09 | Hachiman | I also recall doing the same back |
14:14.19 | Monet | Closest I'd say i've come ot the feeling is wearing headphones for too long |
14:15.36 | Monet | So far what i've seen in this tory makes me question if Maryah has become a prisoner in her own home. |
14:16.13 | Hachiman | Kezoreg and Windey seem to think so |
14:17.13 | OluapPlayer | She has |
14:17.28 | Monet | As a cynic to the world of politics I actualyl disagree with a plan like "mandatory visit the city to meet the people once a month". FOr me such an event more closely feels like some PR stunt to show "oh she does care" |
14:17.43 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/src/1396790001912.gif bumpbumpbumpbump |
14:17.47 | Monet | She probably does. |
14:18.09 | Hachiman | daaww |
14:19.04 | OluapPlayer | Maryah's issue is that she cares too much, to the point she puts her own health aside |
14:19.48 | Monet | I'm not denyting she doesn't care. |
14:20.44 | Monet | I'm just not a personal fan of "meet and greet on this day every month". Politicians here i nthe UK love ot do that sort of thing during election seasons |
14:21.25 | Monet | It gets even mroe egregious for me if its the same route and the same hotspots every time |
14:22.20 | Monet | I'd say Kezoreg callin gher pricness does ring soem truth |
14:23.01 | Hachiman | However Maryah is far from useless |
14:23.15 | Hachiman | She does all of her own work |
14:23.38 | Hachiman | And sacrifices leisure time to get it all done |
14:23.48 | Hachiman | She is a queen after all |
14:23.59 | Monet | Actually that's what I was getting at - is she the head of state or is she an accountant with a lofty title? |
14:24.15 | Hachiman | Kezoreg seems to think the latter hur |
14:24.26 | Xho | Trying to learn an AAL song |
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14:24.27 | Xho | Hard |
14:24.30 | Xho | Hard hard hard |
14:24.40 | OluapPlayer | She is the head of state |
14:24.46 | TekDroid | Hello |
14:24.53 | Hachiman | Xho: Not as hard as trying to replicate Nile's drums |
14:25.11 | Xho | With my eyes |
14:25.21 | Hachiman | hur |
14:26.03 | Monet | "Anti-cloning petitions, food activists, animal petitions, new spaceship designs, additional residential appliances" wow she really had to review al lthat? |
14:26.23 | Hachiman | That and more hur |
14:26.36 | Monet | ALso the anti-cloning petition sounds like a bit of an insult toward her |
14:26.42 | Hachiman | olol |
14:26.54 | OluapPlayer | hur |
14:26.58 | OluapPlayer | Well she's not a clone |
14:27.27 | Monet | The process of her birth was still pretty similar presumably. |
14:27.59 | Monet | She's not an *exact* clone, but she counts because her inception was completely artificial |
14:28.13 | OluapPlayer | More than one Maryah |
14:28.19 | OluapPlayer | kez - yey |
14:29.08 | Monet | ALso new spaceship designs? |
14:29.23 | Wormy | Monet: Oh I just remembered, I have the seen those space suits somewhere (without the design). The idea is that instead of an airlock, the suits are attached to a rover on say, Mars, which you can just walk into. |
14:29.47 | AdmiralPanda | Wormy: That's how they work currently on rovers :P |
14:29.50 | Monet | Reminds me of what I read of Peter the Great; the guy designed many ships for Russia's navy. |
14:30.17 | OluapPlayer | She doesn't design ships, she just reviews them |
14:30.39 | Monet | THis girl needs accountants. |
14:30.43 | Monet | Like. Immediately. |
14:30.49 | Wormy | Panda: What do you mean, certainly not the Lunar buggies |
14:31.17 | AdmiralPanda | not the buggies, but the big truck-like one that only got used once |
14:31.38 | Wormy | I wasn't aware one existed |
14:31.48 | AdmiralPanda | wait I have two designes mixed up |
14:31.50 | Wormy | Outside the labs |
14:31.58 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: This one? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9NLhqbUZm40/TnljR2eNpYI/AAAAAAAADsY/Gy7oOwYNwIs/s1600/Advanichariot.jpg |
14:32.00 | AdmiralPanda | the one I'm talking about hasn't been field tested, but it's certainly a thing |
14:32.12 | AdmiralPanda | yeah I think that's the one |
14:32.29 | Monet | James May got to test it on Top Gear |
14:32.38 | AdmiralPanda | basically it uses that principle of stepping into the suit instead of using an airloc |
14:32.48 | Monet | There was even a scene where he disembarked into one of these spacesuits attached t othe back |
14:33.10 | Wormy | Panda: That is the one I was talking about, I think |
14:33.34 | Monet | This makes me wonder what sorts of things the Paragons review |
14:33.53 | Wormy | And this suit http://jscfeatures.jsc.nasa.gov/z2/images/multiangles/Tech/scaled/Tech_multiangles__00007.jpg |
14:34.40 | Monet | ALthough given Uriel is head of House Ultanos I imagine one of his duties is managing House Ultanos' finances. |
14:35.08 | AdmiralPanda | nah you hire people for that |
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14:35.32 | Monet | True, and this is what I was saying regarding Maryah. |
14:35.55 | dino | hellow |
14:36.01 | Wormy | Perhaps Uriel likes doing it, or is the type who thinks only he can do it right. |
14:36.06 | Wormy | Hi |
14:36.15 | Hachiman | Maryah probably thinks that anybody else would get it wrong |
14:36.17 | Monet | Actually yeah, given how large House Ultanos is I don't think Uriel could manage all its finances on his own. |
14:36.36 | OluapPlayer | Maryah does everything on her own because she wants to prove herself as a capable ruler |
14:36.46 | Hachiman | Aye |
14:36.50 | Monet | OluapPLayer: I get her now. |
14:37.14 | Monet | She secretly doubts she could fill the last emperor's boots, right? |
14:37.23 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
14:37.44 | Monet | Uriel...might have been there himself. |
14:38.30 | Monet | After his brother died, Uriel refused to be coronated until after the Mecha-Wasp war was over. |
14:39.28 | Monet | So Alensia has been Steward Paragon twice, multiple times even given how many expeditions Uriel liked ot go on. |
14:39.33 | Wormy | I wonder which body of the Solar System would kill an exposed human being first... Mars, Titan, Mercury or Venus |
14:39.52 | Hachiman | Wormy: Venus I imagine |
14:40.15 | Wormy | You'd be crushed, burned and corroded by acid |
14:40.18 | AdmiralPanda | Wormy: Yeah Venus, you're talking fatal compression in a couple of seconds |
14:40.30 | AdmiralPanda | the burning and acid won't have time to kill you |
14:41.00 | OluapPlayer | Venus is Earth's cousin who had bad influences on his childhood |
14:41.03 | Wormy | If you are unfortunate you might land on some freshly exposed lava |
14:41.18 | Hachiman | Wormy: Are you by any chance watching a program about a guy who studies the conditions for habitability on certain celestial bodies? |
14:41.21 | Monet | I'm tthinking Mars. That planet has abruptly ended many Mars missions ot its surface. |
14:41.31 | Wormy | Hachiman: Yes, I am |
14:41.34 | Technobliterator | bbl |
14:41.38 | Hachiman | Hah, so am I |
14:41.45 | Wormy | Such a small world. |
14:41.50 | Hachiman | He's doing Callisto right now |
14:42.01 | OluapPlayer | nurds |
14:42.04 | Monet | So what does this narrow probability of success say for manned missions? |
14:42.19 | OluapPlayer | "u gon get toasted" |
14:42.31 | Wormy | It'd be hard to land humans there tbh |
14:42.37 | Hachiman | Aye |
14:43.10 | Monet | "The Mars Lander is touching down now and...oh it crashed" |
14:43.31 | Wormy | Atmospheric re-entry would require different design |
14:44.00 | Wormy | specifications |
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14:44.38 | Wormy | I think we should send swarm robots to Mars, each with specialist functions, then we don't have the issue with weight |
14:45.01 | Wormy | They could also set up base for us beforehand |
14:45.44 | Wormy | I had a lecture last year at uni by a guy who works for ESA |
14:46.08 | Wormy | They built a brilliant design for the European rover |
14:46.23 | Wormy | It could do things the other rovers lacked |
14:46.30 | Sporeraptor | hi |
14:46.42 | Wormy | But due to wight and expense, all the good features were cut back |
14:47.05 | Wormy | So me and friend (who studied engineering) proposed sending swarm robots |
14:47.23 | Monet | I'd say Uriel does suffer from the same anxiety as Maryah; his own father was bor non the fringes of House Ultanos and climbed t othe top, becoming a friend to the paragon at the time before dying at roughly 1000 years old. Uriel still keeps his father's sniper rifle in a case in his office. |
14:47.31 | Wormy | In fact ESA and NASA are looking into swarm robotics |
14:48.23 | OluapPlayer | Maryah doesn't even have a blood relation with the previous emperor |
14:48.49 | Wormy | Von Neumann proposed it a long time ago in fact http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann_probe#Von_Neumann_probes |
14:49.12 | Wormy | We really ought to explore space with small, specialist robots capable of simple AI |
14:49.53 | Wormy | So we don't miss details die to signalling delay as they move about |
14:50.39 | OluapPlayer | http://i.4cdn.org/vg/src/1396786746511.png |
14:51.12 | Hachiman | got shrek'd |
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14:54.51 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/src/1396735209916.gif Kez's face when Herquie approaches |
14:55.28 | Hachiman | ool |
14:55.32 | Hachiman | *olol |
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15:03.12 | Wormy | hi |
15:03.33 | Wormy | Hachiman: Remember the waffle factory at Mercury? |
15:04.33 | Hachiman | Aye I do |
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15:05.00 | OfficerJackal | Hello! |
15:05.08 | Ghelae | Hello. |
15:05.11 | Wormy | It should stay canon lol |
15:06.49 | AdmiralPanda | the planet Mercury has a waffle factory? |
15:07.27 | Wormy | Yes |
15:07.45 | Wormy | In the original SSA governed Sol fiction |
15:07.48 | AdmiralPanda | Kaios - I would like to buy a controlling share in this factory. |
15:07.57 | TekDroid | I thought Mercury IS the waffle factory? |
15:08.14 | Wormy | Maybe it is |
15:09.40 | OluapPlayer | http://filesmelt.com/dl/8D532.jpg |
15:09.44 | Xho | Right I'm bored what to do |
15:10.34 | OluapPlayer | Write Terminus/Pelagrios prologue |
15:10.35 | OluapPlayer | http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-10/enhanced/webdr05/15/9/anigif_enhanced-buzz-26358-1381845043-13.gif |
15:10.59 | Xho | kitteh |
15:11.09 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/Rxd0w7o.png |
15:11.41 | Wormy | "spangebob" |
15:11.51 | Wormy | I read that in a Squidward voice |
15:14.08 | Xho | Nonja Tartles |
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15:17.41 | Xho | Where's Jo hur |
15:18.10 | OluapPlayer | ded |
15:18.42 | Wormy | Apparentely Spongebob was ripped from Bob Spongee http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2007/03/spongebobss.jpg |
15:21.32 | Wormy | chjk,m |
15:21.45 | Wormy | sorry, that was my dog |
15:22.19 | Ghelae | I thought you were just enraged to incoherence by the thought of Spongebob being plagiarism. |
15:22.33 | Wormy | He must be trying to achieve human-level communication. |
15:22.41 | Wormy | with us |
15:27.50 | Wormy | What is with the recent trope of adverts showing members of public stumbling over their words, only once |
15:28.09 | Wormy | Is it to make them sound more natural? |
15:29.54 | Wormy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYQwxXImtYQ |
15:30.00 | Wormy | first few seconds |
15:30.37 | Wormy | Could be a mediocre cut job |
15:31.24 | Wormy | Here too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q26LiOrNTX0 |
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15:33.48 | Technobliterator | back |
15:33.50 | Technobliterator | and stitched |
15:33.57 | Ghelae | Hello. |
15:34.02 | Wormy | Stitched? |
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15:34.50 | Ghelae | Hello. |
15:34.56 | Technobliterator | #CleansingFlamesStoof git |
15:35.27 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer Hachiman |
15:35.38 | OluapPlayer | what |
15:36.18 | Imperios | ...Did Alyona get more attractive after the three weeks I had spent without seeing her or something? |
15:36.40 | OluapPlayer | [waifu intensifies] |
15:36.44 | Imperios | Or, rather, actually slightly attractive |
15:37.33 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/hmTi7xS.jpg |
15:41.29 | Monet | Xho: I realised something the other day |
15:41.43 | Xho | wat b dis |
15:42.39 | Monet | "Nivalim" sounds very close to the Dracid word "nivilum" which means "physical void" |
15:43.00 | Xho | Well that's a good coincidence and a half hur |
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15:53.41 | Primius | Hi |
15:54.08 | Ghelae | Hello. |
15:54.30 | drom | hello |
16:02.50 | Jepardi | v |
16:02.52 | Jepardi | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/agyjDbq_460s_v2.jpg |
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16:10.36 | Monet | One thing that I probably shuld have asked when Xho was here |
16:11.29 | Monet | If you live in a post-scarcity economy, are you peniless or absurdly rich? |
16:12.11 | Monet | What exactly happens when dealing with other currencies? |
16:12.38 | Technobliterator | wormy can answer that, the DCP are post-scarcity as well |
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16:18.15 | Ghelae | The concepts of "penniless" and "absurdly rich" don't really apply to post-scarcity in general, although if you define material wealth as the ability to access resources, it would normally be closer to the latter. |
16:19.11 | TekDroid | But even post-scarcity still needs some kimd of wealth, for things that are naturally scarce. |
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16:20.12 | Ghelae | Yes. Furthermore, you might need some means of inhibiting resource consumption to prevent the quadrillions of people in your society from bringing things back to scarcity by, say, building their own fleet of starships. |
16:20.58 | Ghelae | But Monet was presumably asking about a generic situation, judging by his question. |
16:22.10 | Monet | OKay more specifically, these post-scarcity societies whic abolish a national currency. if someone from this society travels to a society that still uses a currency, us the person capable of buying anything or are they in a situation where they are in fact peniless. |
16:23.00 | Ghelae | If they don't bring anything with them that can be used in trade (or the legal acquisition of resources by other means, say a quantum replicator), then they'd be penniless. |
16:23.05 | Monet | I've noticed that in several fictions, becoming post-scarcity often means abolishing the concept of money within your borders. |
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16:23.08 | Ex16t8-18 | Hi there |
16:23.12 | Ghelae | Hello. |
16:23.13 | Ex16t8-18 | oops |
16:24.25 | Ghelae | If you were a citizen of a post-scarcity society travelling to an economic society, you might alternatively replicate something that can be sold to (or within) your destination for the local currency. |
16:27.03 | Ghelae | Or your government may provide you with funds that it has acquired by such means. |
16:32.10 | drom | Hey, I found an image of the Civ2 TOT's units for the Sci-fi mode. http://i.imgur.com/pbn0H9A.png |
16:32.54 | drom | Fantasy mode... http://i.imgur.com/GEtpu8n.png |
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16:39.26 | Imperios | Fooh, back |
16:41.18 | Jepardi | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aEwEm29_460sa.gif |
16:42.18 | Zmr56 | heheh |
16:45.35 | dino | back |
16:47.02 | Imperios | http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/220/841/7gcs.jpg god that is awesome |
16:50.04 | dino | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Alcanti_Palace_Guest_Beds.png awesome interior! |
16:51.21 | Monet | Thanks |
16:52.31 | Monet | Its an extreme privalege to be given an exclusive chamber within the palace. |
16:55.29 | TekDroid | That really is amazing. |
16:55.59 | TekDroid | Love how you added the picture frame too. |
16:56.12 | TekDroid | That must have taken some work. |
16:57.49 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
16:59.41 | dino | @Monet: It looks like a nice place to remain :D |
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17:04.34 | Monet | Indeed. |
17:04.58 | Monet | I imagine that one of the perks of having an exclusive chamber is you can decorate it how you like |
17:06.46 | Imperios | SACREBLEU MY YOUNGER SISTER IS BACK |
17:07.01 | Imperios | And she is watching Star Wars IV now |
17:14.16 | Zmr56 | Angrybirds: Could there be some French Humans living in Mardvaeli? |
17:18.27 | Wormy_away | Hooray, are you getting her into sci-fi lol |
17:18.50 | Imperios | A bit |
17:18.58 | Imperios | She plays GW2 with me too |
17:19.44 | Wormy_away | This is how we should fight the aliens! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNTD1j8YRuM |
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17:21.16 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:23.14 | Zmr56 | Hi |
17:23.19 | Monet | I feel really slow at making pictures |
17:29.15 | Monet | I might make a list of dignitaries who have their own rooms. |
17:31.38 | Imperios | Monet: You busy now? |
17:32.32 | Monet | A little bit. |
17:34.39 | Monet | Although to actually GET a room, you've basically got to be a trusted family friend. |
17:38.27 | Wormy_away | Shocking http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/video-granny-spinning-gang-target-3377078 |
17:40.08 | Zmr56 | Aye I saw this somewhere else |
17:41.34 | Zmr56 | Idiots everywhere. |
17:44.34 | Wormy_away | I hope they are punished severely |
17:48.24 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Alcanti_Royal_Palace#Occupants here's the current "reserved" list |
17:49.25 | Xho | Kithworto - betta b |
17:56.20 | dino | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Excelsior-Class finished! |
18:00.54 | Zmr56 | Looks nice and modern! |
18:01.45 | Zmr56 | nngh, Civ crashed so I'm gonna be stuck in DotA for now |
18:08.20 | Angrybirds | Can I haz quotes? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Laurene_Maxime#By_others |
18:11.10 | Xho | Thinking of one |
18:11.29 | Xho | But I don't know what factions of mine would know about humans let alone France |
18:11.52 | Angrybirds | The Kicath probably had dealings with French Andromeda at some point? |
18:12.32 | Xho | Probably |
18:13.19 | Xho | Since Kicath view humans in general as small, pink and as easy to break as a twig they'd probably laugh at most human factions |
18:13.55 | Angrybirds | Probably. |
18:14.57 | Monet | I'll keep the Theains away from them then |
18:15.13 | Monet | Kicath might see them as a species of babies |
18:15.34 | Xho | They'd view Theians in a better light since they're brain-for-brain smarter |
18:16.11 | Wormy_away | What about taller, sttronger and more advanced near-humans or posthumans? |
18:16.20 | Xho | The same |
18:16.32 | Xho | Kicath don't like humans since they know humans can be immensely stupid |
18:18.19 | Xho | Hm I know what I'm gonna do |
18:19.07 | Wormy_away | The DCP see humanity as an affont to an ordered galaxy they think they can police |
18:19.43 | Wormy_away | yet they don't deny some of the good traits of humans so they'd rather us be united |
18:20.25 | Xho | I think Kicath would view humans better if they were united, but considering the Kicath race is split they won't judge them on that |
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18:20.33 | Sporeraptor | hi |
18:21.06 | Monet | Its a bit wierd considering the agreements we have now like the Outer Space treaty |
18:21.09 | Ghelae | Hello. |
18:21.22 | Xho | I'm gonna delete those extra Kicath pages and put the Alpha/Elite/Pure Kicath subspecies on there |
18:21.30 | Wormy_away | It is possible the DCP had wars with near-humans and the Yamato earlier in history |
18:21.53 | Ghelae | I remember you mentioning that Kilnok once got into a bar fight with a Klingon. |
18:22.09 | Wormy_away | And also, the DCP is rivals with the Sontarans |
18:22.45 | Xho | Ghelae: Can you delete http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kicath_Alpha and http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kicath_Elite for me please |
18:23.21 | Ghelae | breaks out the bazooka and blasts them off the wiki |
18:23.24 | Wormy_away | done |
18:23.34 | Wormy_away | Oh I didn't read it was for Ghelae |
18:23.36 | Ghelae | Spoilsport. |
18:23.42 | Wormy_away | I took er jerb |
18:24.01 | Wormy_away | I can undelete them iof you want |
18:24.31 | Ghelae | No, don't worry about it. |
18:24.53 | Ghelae | The rockets weren't wasted; they hit some broken redirects instead. |
18:25.30 | Wormy_away | Good, at least their souls can rest. |
18:27.09 | Monet | That's a lot of Exelsior-class ships |
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18:28.22 | Xho | I'm going to re-class the Kicath types I think |
18:29.00 | Wormy_away | I imagine the Judoon and DCP get along |
18:29.32 | Xho | So the more common Kicath type that all of the characters are β Kicath, the larger and physically superior yet rarer types are α Kicath |
18:30.51 | Xho | And then the even rarer types, not quite sure |
18:31.34 | Xho | Ϻ Kicath perhaps |
18:32.13 | Xho | Or ϡ Kicath |
18:32.21 | Monet | I take it in this case rarer = closer Vi'Navitum heritage? |
18:32.30 | Xho | Yeah |
18:32.57 | Xho | α Kicath are very rare to come across and ϡ Kicath are incredibly rare to come across |
18:33.17 | Xho | Kithworto is technically a ϡ Kicath though |
18:35.12 | Xho | And then you get β/β Kicath, α/α Kicath, ϡ/ϡ Kicath, α/β Kicath hybrid, ϡ/α Kicath hybrid, ϡ/β Kicath hybrid |
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18:35.23 | Monet | Oh bloody hell |
18:35.55 | Xho | The most common is β/β Kicath, least common is the ϡ Kicath and any hybrid involving it |
18:36.09 | Ghelae | ~give Knight_Alien a cookie |
18:36.09 | infobot | ACTION gives Knight_Alien a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up. |
18:36.21 | Knight_Alien | :D |
18:36.28 | Xho | ϡ/ϡ Kicath may number less than 1000 and then the hybrids even less |
18:38.44 | Xho | But yes every other Kicath mentioned has β Kicath blood in them |
18:38.56 | Xho | The only exceptions are possibly Psi, Nu and Kilchárunya |
18:39.03 | Xho | Psi and Nu because of their height |
18:42.54 | Xho | Kilchárunya because of her skin colouration |
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18:47.41 | Tek0516Droid | Hello |
18:48.29 | Ghelae | Hello. |
18:49.23 | Monet | I wonder if Draconis living for up to 700 years on average might be outdated by now. |
18:49.53 | Monet | Using Morphis or special chemical therapy, theoretically they could live for millennia |
18:52.34 | Tek0516Droid | Possibly. |
18:52.53 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kicath There we go, updated with the Beta/Alpha/Sampi measurements |
18:55.21 | Xho | Out of 1.1 quadrillion or so existing Kicath the ratio between Beta/Alpha/Sampi is quite one sided |
18:56.23 | Monet | I really think "Toughness" needs to be more clearly exlpained |
18:56.23 | dino | ghel were is your blog to image making? How can I find it easily? |
18:57.08 | Monet | On Techno's scale "natural armour" is 5TP. |
18:57.56 | Ghelae | dino: Do you mean [[User:Ghelæ/Guide To Battle Images]]? |
18:57.57 | morgothBotPy | Ghelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghelæ/Guide_To_Battle_Images |
18:58.04 | Monet | Te values i'm seeing makes it sounds like there are tons of races who naturally have skin or bones as though as any tank. |
18:58.08 | Ghelae | For future reference, there's a link in my userpage infobox. |
18:58.23 | Monet | tough* |
18:58.27 | dino | Thanks@!!! |
18:58.32 | Monet | I'm jus' saying. |
18:59.09 | Ghelae | Monet: That can sometimes seem to be the case even without the stats scale. |
18:59.37 | Monet | Ghelae: I understand that some reaces have a majority of their population cybernetically enhanced. |
19:00.24 | Ghelae | Yes, that's how I usually imagine it to be. |
19:02.39 | Monet | Althugh I do ask myself the what is the point in all civilians of an empire having titanium alloy bones or bulletproof skin. |
19:03.18 | Monet | Sure its handly, it might save you in a car crash but for the most part its just going ot be extra weight |
19:04.05 | Wormy_away | ϡ = Bat'lef Kicath hur |
19:04.09 | Ghelae | If the extra weight also includes artificial muscles capable of carrying that weight, that's not so much of a problem. |
19:04.46 | Monet | The image I get of these people is taking out a loan to byu a ferrarri. |
19:05.03 | Monet | Yes its cool, you've got something awesome, but really its unnesseccary. |
19:05.33 | Ghelae | In militaristic societies, it might be government-enforced so they can be sent off to war at a moment's notice. |
19:05.46 | Ghelae | In a post-scarcity society, "it's cool" might be reason enough for most people. |
19:05.49 | Xho | Monet: Isn't that glamourised prosthetics in general? |
19:06.30 | Monet | Xho: A ferrarri fits because how often are you going to use all the extra power it has compared ot say a Fiat 500? |
19:06.43 | Xho | True |
19:06.54 | Xho | I suppose that's privilege for you |
19:07.17 | Monet | ALso I always assumed the fiction stats were what was standard for the species. |
19:09.09 | Monet | I can see nwo why Cyrannian likes ot ignore adding stats now |
19:09.24 | Monet | Its potential for one-upmanship. |
19:09.39 | Xho | Pretty much |
19:09.52 | Xho | I say ignore it and put what you want on there and don't let anyone make you think different |
19:09.59 | Xho | Within the boundaries of sanity of course |
19:10.21 | Monet | But this is where my toughness issue comes in. |
19:10.33 | Monet | "natural armour" I imagine as chitin plating for instance. |
19:11.10 | Xho | Hm perhaps it does need more explanation than just "5 TP" |
19:11.27 | Monet | I think this might be the problem |
19:12.03 | Ghelae | "Natural armour = something like chitin" is was what I was thinking when I added that. It was based on how the toughest armour in Spore's creature creator adds 5 HP. |
19:12.16 | Monet | People see "natural armour = 5TP" then see "cybernetics = minimum 250 TP" |
19:12.52 | Ghelae | I think that ought to be a maximum. |
19:12.58 | Monet | So there is a chance people see that teeny value and think "what kind of armour is this? soft leather?" |
19:15.46 | Monet | Okay so I looked at one of the signature species used on the stats page -the Loron. |
19:16.17 | Monet | "toughness 650TP" fro ma race probably too stupid enough to have any idea how ot make high-grade cybernetics |
19:16.48 | Xho | Thick skull hur |
19:16.52 | Monet | ANd as Ghelae said 5Tp is the strength of chitin |
19:17.26 | Monet | but when scled up I'm pretty sure chitin is reasonably tough |
19:17.47 | Monet | Okay I think I get it now |
19:17.59 | Monet | Most chitin users here on Earth are insects. |
19:18.37 | Monet | ALso shellfish |
19:19.17 | Monet | Andall these creatures have one thing in common: They're realitively easy to crush underfoot. |
19:20.12 | Ghelae | Maybe not a giant clam. I've never tried crushing one of those, mind you. |
19:20.20 | Monet | True |
19:20.25 | Monet | Plus chitin IS a polymer |
19:21.27 | drom | Did I hear, thick skull? |
19:21.30 | drom | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111022210704/stalker/images/2/2e/Cop_pda_pseudogiant.png |
19:21.31 | Monet | And given its rigidity this menas that when volume is taken into account, it shares the molecular (not entirely the same chemical) properties as many plastics |
19:22.04 | Monet | So in actual fact, chitin could be quite eough. |
19:23.36 | Monet | COnsidering its use by insects and crustaceons |
19:24.17 | Monet | Basically the stats I'm a bit iffy about say all these creatures have a natural armour more durable than kevlar. |
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19:27.14 | drom | I prefer story-driven stats, for me, stats = TL;DR list for abilities and preformances. |
19:27.57 | Xho | Oh great that now means I have to make pictures of the other Kicath types |
19:27.58 | drom | And an easy visiualization/conclusion of what's made in the text. |
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19:28.10 | Hachiman | Hai |
19:28.13 | Ghelae | If it's any consolation, I've never really cared for the stats system and I helped create it. |
19:28.15 | drom | hai |
19:28.15 | Ghelae | Hello. |
19:28.21 | Xho | hai fgt |
19:28.25 | Hachiman | I don't care for stats either |
19:28.29 | Sporeraptor | hi |
19:28.30 | Hachiman | Xho: suk a dik gaylord |
19:28.50 | Xho | no |
19:28.53 | Xho | noh |
19:28.54 | drom | *"oooooo"-sounds can heard in the background* |
19:29.22 | Wormy_away | I found it inflexible |
19:29.42 | Xho | It can be deleted if everyone wants to |
19:30.01 | Hachiman | What's this/ |
19:30.04 | Hachiman | ?* |
19:30.04 | Ghelae | How much have the stats been used in anything other than infoboxes? |
19:30.14 | Wormy_away | Just because I don't like it, doesn't mean it needs deleting. |
19:30.17 | Monet | Nothing really. |
19:30.38 | Ghelae | I did actually use them on the Tokzhalan Military Industries page. |
19:31.01 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/1977035_682841115112024_5938134029664567547_n.jpg |
19:31.50 | Monet | I recall Techno created ita s an attempt to standardise the key characteristics of the various species and vehicles on the wiki. So people had a clearer idea of how strong/tough/durable/fast/agile something is |
19:32.06 | drom | Hachiman: http://imgur.com/gallery/588W2 |
19:32.43 | Technobliterator | the stats system? |
19:32.45 | Technobliterator | uh |
19:32.48 | Technobliterator | don't mind too much |
19:33.04 | Wormy_away | It was a great idea, but I find when it comes to characterising strength or intelligence, it is really hard to make comparisons. A sentence can characterise it better with more detail. |
19:33.30 | Technobliterator | it being hard to make comparisons is exactly why I created it in the first place, to make that slightly easier |
19:33.35 | Wormy_away | Though it works better for machines |
19:34.34 | Wormy_away | Thing is, it doesn't really explain why that species has that grade of strength, and in what places |
19:34.43 | Wormy_away | Or how they use it |
19:36.53 | Wormy_away | And intelligence... You have to take in xenopsychology into account, or the speed of the computation (you can have slow brains that look stupid to naive observers). Arguably intelligence is not key anyway, without a creative and critical faculty. |
19:37.35 | Wormy_away | Hence we have animals using intelligence, but not going beyond the same skills they have, |
19:38.38 | Ghelae | We don't actually have an intelligence stat for those reasons. |
19:39.03 | drom | Only level |
19:39.17 | drom | S1, S2 and S3 |
19:39.32 | Wormy_away | Ah, that is only sentience quotient |
19:40.09 | Wormy_away | The speed of the computation |
19:40.38 | Wormy_away | compared to mass |
19:41.04 | Ghelae | Actually, Drom's right; it doesn't refer to sentience quotient on the stats page. But it's only a vague classfication, rather than a rigourous attempt at stat-defining like strength and fortitude and so on. |
19:41.36 | Wormy_away | But I think people might be using it without thinking of other factors I mentioned |
19:42.45 | drom | People rather put them like "S+12" or "S1 (+14)" |
19:44.02 | drom | I followed how the standards formed the infobox according to the link where the form-edit linked me to. But I find them useless, it will stay there and collect dust and grow cobwebs. |
19:45.10 | Wormy_away | Essence stats, I think that should be more about individuals than races |
19:45.14 | drom | I would rather use "Weak-Though" scale. At least something similar to that. |
19:45.40 | Wormy_away | Ans Sith Lords can exceed 300 EP |
19:45.48 | Wormy_away | But I know its just an example |
19:46.24 | drom | The stats are of an average invividual of said species. |
19:47.02 | drom | Characters have their own, more or less excending or decending the average stats of their own kin. |
19:47.04 | Wormy_away | Elemental would therefor be low for about every species |
19:47.16 | Wormy_away | Since it requires training |
19:47.54 | drom | There's species those high levels of essence is *natural*. |
19:48.28 | Wormy_away | But not with elemental, I had to be different with it. |
19:49.13 | drom | Hmm. Sure it does, but if it was natural. The side effects would result in a natural fragible body. |
19:49.14 | dino | Bye all |
19:49.15 | dino | have to leve |
19:49.18 | dino | see ya next itme |
19:49.18 | drom | see ya dino |
19:49.18 | dino | bye |
19:49.18 | Wormy_away | bye |
19:52.03 | Angrybirds | Monet: |
19:52.09 | Angrybirds | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406195141/spore/images/c/c8/Station_Q5.png |
19:52.47 | Sporeraptor | Angrybirds: looks very good |
19:52.57 | drom | Angrybird, I feelt uncreative, now I got the idea to make a Naakjian space station. Thanks! |
19:53.21 | Monet | The docked ships around the equator are a nice touch |
19:54.04 | Angrybirds | Thanks! Are you okay with the use of the DI ships? |
19:54.36 | TekDroid | I like the station. kinda reminds me of the obes in the Clone Wars cartoon |
19:54.41 | Monet | I don't mind .I like the "exitin hyperspace" effect behind them |
19:55.19 | Angrybirds | That's what I was going for :D TekDroid: Now that you mention it... |
19:55.20 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Monet47/A_Few_Concerns#One-upmanship_on_stats I realised that to nature, a metal skeleton is actually a bad idea for adaptation. |
19:57.23 | TekDroid | Good points Monet. |
19:58.22 | Monet | Its a nice thought to have unbreakable bones, but at the same time that unbreakability makes it harder for the body to make changes where needed. |
19:59.20 | TekDroid | Arthritis would be a nightmare for metal bones. XD |
19:59.31 | Sporeraptor | Sounds reasonable to me, especially since you'd have a great weight disadvantage with metal bones. |
20:00.14 | Wormy_away | The Randomness and me had to think about how Salsetthe bones don't shatter horribly in their bodies |
20:03.15 | Monet | A rule of thumb when including minerals in bodies: Be aware that the body cannot break down compounds though sheer heat |
20:03.29 | Monet | If it did, it'd cook itself |
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20:03.46 | Sporeraptor | hi |
20:03.49 | Ghelae | Hello. |
20:04.29 | Ghelae | Monet: Electrolysis in anything that requires a solvent such as molten cryolite is normally not an option for the same reason. |
20:05.17 | Monet | ANother rerason steel and titanium are not that common i nthe body. |
20:05.37 | drom | Monet: Good points in that update. Paring 200-800TP with tanks, made me feel a bit ashamed. |
20:05.50 | Monet | We have tiny amounts ofiron, but its usually in the form of an easier-to-break a covelant bond |
20:07.05 | Ghelae | I think the key point is that we lack significant metallic bonding in the body. |
20:08.28 | Monet | Yeah, Haemoglobin - the primary form of iron in the body - is connected to the rest of the molecule via bonding with nitrogen |
20:10.07 | Monet | drom: Did ou estimate toughness by looking at other creatures? |
20:10.23 | Ghelae | Metallic bonding doesn't work well for nanoscale machinery anyway. Hence metal-based life isn't usually something that's seriously considered. |
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20:13.10 | Sporeraptor | hello |
20:13.34 | Avilladox | Hi |
20:15.34 | Wormy_away | There may be geochemical reasons too, as to why metallic bonding (not with free metals, mind you) rarely found it's way into biology. |
20:21.53 | Xho | Hm dunno what to do |
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20:22.38 | Ghelae | Xho: You could start planning the War of Ages rehaul. |
20:22.46 | Xho | I would |
20:23.04 | Xho | But considering I have Tantum and then like 3 other stories going right now it probably isn't a good idea |
20:23.50 | drom | Monet: Sometimes, but it mostly depend on their evolutionary history and described biology. |
20:24.42 | Ghelae | That's why you would only start planning it, not actually doing anything significant with it. |
20:24.46 | drom | Hm, it feels alot better when I shaved away my mustache and beard. |
20:25.01 | drom | And left my sideburns. |
20:25.31 | Ghelae | Not that I have any idea how to start planning it, let alone what it would be like. |
20:25.39 | Monet | drom: No i mean did you base the toughness level by partially looking at other species |
20:25.47 | Wormy_away | I don't think we should change the story too much. |
20:26.00 | Wormy_away | I like the story it is very memorable and nostalgic |
20:26.23 | Wormy_away | But it could do with extensions and better writing |
20:26.47 | Ghelae | That's the main idea. |
20:27.40 | Monet | but fro mhow you described the skin, 400TP does sound a bit excessive since you compared it to leather and an exoskeleton and in some cases human skin |
20:28.06 | Wormy_away | Fun fact: human skin is tougher than dog skin |
20:28.09 | Xho | Monet: I suppose the higher toughness does go hand in hand with advanced weaponry which could cut through it |
20:28.58 | Wormy_away | Dog owners should keep that in mind when dogs get wounds and they compare it to their own |
20:29.45 | drom | Monet: the heck do I know? I still can't deny the fact it's a bit excessive. |
20:30.25 | Xho | I think even with 400 TP more advanced weapons could burn a hole/disintegrate |
20:30.58 | Monet | I can see genetically engineered races possibly having a toughness level that high. |
20:32.05 | Monet | but if its natural that potentially implies that until a species created strong eoungh weapons they found it difficult to kil leach other though wounding. |
20:32.27 | Wormy_away | The Cloverfield monster was said to survive weapons fire due to it's resistance to the pressure of the deep ocean. The director hinted that the Stealth bombers managed to kill it though |
20:32.31 | Monet | Unless, like above, the species modified itself |
20:33.02 | Wormy_away | Doesn't say much about the material of it's skin, but it must have good structural integrity |
20:33.33 | Monet | Some species like rhinos and elephants can withstand weapons that would injure a human |
20:33.48 | Monet | say a single arrow |
20:33.54 | Monet | They have notoriously tough skin |
20:35.58 | Wormy_away | I wonder what Godzilla is made of |
20:36.19 | Monet | But this is what I am talking about with chitin |
20:36.53 | Xho | Wormy_away: It's made of Japan |
20:36.56 | Monet | the same principle that makes rhino and elephant hide so tough - its thickness - would make perhaps a couple of inches of chitin effective armour |
20:37.27 | drom | Wormy: I found godzilla's rival. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamera |
20:37.42 | drom | "The Friend of All Children" |
20:38.12 | Ghelae | Monet: If we do keep the stats system, pehaps the page could be edited to specify, for example, 5 TP corresponds to 1cm-thick chitin plate? |
20:40.13 | Monet | Makes sense. |
20:40.56 | Wormy | I wonder how much chitin it takes to be equivalent to tank armour to stop a small missile |
20:41.52 | Wormy | is to lazi to do the maths |
20:43.50 | Avilladox | does a google search, but instead finds a my MLP fanfic |
20:44.27 | Monet | Wair what? |
20:44.59 | Avilladox | Yep. |
20:45.31 | drom | I wonder what would equalient this? http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/Chitin_Plating |
20:47.50 | Monet | chitin, and MLP. |
20:47.59 | Monet | how? |
20:48.43 | drom | Google adapts on which sites you have been and searches you have done. |
20:49.26 | Wormy | MLP and Shrek and Ainsley are everywhere |
20:49.45 | Avilladox | drom:Well that explains the Pathfinder supplement, but not the MLP |
20:49.52 | Wormy | It is the substrate of the internetr |
20:51.15 | Avilladox | My computer is full of ponies. |
20:51.31 | Avilladox | I never thought I'd get to type that. |
20:51.50 | drom | Monet: I based after this. |
20:51.51 | drom | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_topics/Stats#Creature_Scale_Units |
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20:52.58 | Zmr56 | Back, did I miss anything? |
20:52.59 | Sporeraptor | hi |
20:53.03 | Zmr56 | Hi |
20:53.20 | Avilladox | My search about chitin got me an MLP fanfic |
20:53.46 | Avilladox | I don't know what else you missed, since I don't know when you left |
20:54.00 | drom | Avilladox: Even this gives you MLP fanfic? https://www.google.se/search?q=chitin&oq=chitin&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 |
20:54.03 | Monet | drom: I think I see what's ahppening here |
20:55.14 | Avilladox | drom: Not just the word, I was researching the how much chitin could stop a missile question |
20:55.17 | Monet | You've listed them as "physically very strong", I think most races at this level were probaably intened ot either be giants, augments or muscle with bones. |
20:56.42 | drom | *brakes heavily* |
20:56.47 | Monet | 150SP is about 7x human strength |
20:57.40 | drom | Draconis is 10 times thougher than a natural chitin armour. |
20:58.15 | drom | tougher* |
20:58.18 | Wormy | Grimbolsaurians have very tough skin |
20:58.34 | Wormy | Texture of a Crocodile, rather than an insect though |
20:59.01 | Wormy | It is a misconception that Grimbies are insectoids |
21:00.17 | drom | So what's your determination of their skin then? |
21:00.40 | Xho | It's rather amazing that we have to explain things |
21:00.42 | Xho | Then again, sci-fi |
21:01.13 | Monet | drom: Humans have 0 TP and an SP of 20 on the scale. |
21:01.35 | Monet | yet I can punch someone and not tear their skin open. You can't really swap over the two stats |
21:01.37 | Wormy | Xho: We enjoy explaining things |
21:01.57 | Xho | I can't explain something in a scientific manner which is my ultimate problem |
21:01.58 | Wormy | I've seen skin broken in UFC |
21:02.10 | drom | UFC? |
21:02.17 | Xho | Drom: Cage fighting |
21:02.21 | Hachiman | I just pin unrealistic or inconsistent stuff as a passive effect of Chaos |
21:02.25 | Wormy | Ultimate Fighting Championship |
21:02.31 | drom | Xho: Ah, I see now. |
21:03.04 | Xho | I need to make an Aliens Guy meme picture with a Xhodocto head, with the caption; "Chaos" |
21:03.10 | Xho | Or just "Xhodocto" |
21:04.10 | Xho | I can do things well in Fantasy because mainly it's just describing hideously otherworldly things which a lot of artistic licence |
21:05.06 | drom | Monet: I see, but I think I have came too far away to find a way around to fix the unjustified amount of TP. |
21:07.05 | drom | What would #sporewiki's suggestion on a fair value? I'm terrible on this. |
21:07.59 | Xho | Fairness doesn't really run in the stats system |
21:09.07 | Monet | Basically if a concept or a system exists, someone, there's going ot be a competetive battle |
21:10.25 | Xho | Pretty much |
21:10.37 | drom | Well. I still can agree on to decrease my species' TP from 400 to anything less than 110. Least 30TP |
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21:11.15 | AdmiralPanda | hello all |
21:11.26 | Xho | soup |
21:11.33 | drom | And if that's unjustified, my range would then be 15-80 |
21:13.16 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akl6OK2HUNA This is why you do not mess with Khal Drogo |
21:15.22 | Ghelae | ~give AdmiralPanda a cookie |
21:15.22 | infobot | ACTION gives AdmiralPanda a home-baked peanut butter cookie to cheer him up. |
21:15.52 | Ghelae | drom: If this is based on their natural abilities, then 30 TP is equivalent to having a 6cm-thick exoskeleton. |
21:15.53 | AdmiralPanda | uses the cookie as a power source for an experimental Hachification laser, which turns anyone it hits into an anthropomorphic rabbit |
21:16.35 | drom | What would be equalient of 100TP? |
21:16.43 | drom | equivalent* |
21:16.45 | Ghelae | It's not complicated maths. |
21:16.51 | Ghelae | ~100/5 |
21:16.51 | infobot | 20 |
21:17.15 | Avilladox | surrounds himself with mirrors to defend from Hachification laser |
21:17.32 | drom | So where does the 5 come from, what is that factor called? |
21:17.47 | Ghelae | 5 TP = 1cm-thick shell. |
21:18.13 | drom | btw, found an interesting positison when taking some pictures of my space station. http://i.imgur.com/Hus19sr.png |
21:18.21 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKT20_bHwuY Also why you don't mess with Khal Drogo |
21:26.25 | Xho | Well that killed the conversation |
21:28.09 | drom | Xho: You are found guility for killing #sporewiki |
21:28.14 | drom | And you must... |
21:28.35 | drom | showered with kittens. |
21:28.36 | Avilladox | waits in suspense |
21:28.41 | Xho | Been there done that |
21:29.47 | drom | And then you'll get the finest dinner at your resturant of your choice. |
21:30.12 | Xho | This is quite the reward for committing mass murder |
21:30.16 | Xho | Should do it more often |
21:31.12 | drom | And you'll be able to choose to watch TV-show of your choice. |
21:31.28 | AdmiralPanda | secretly switches all TV channels to Justin Beiber marathons |
21:31.37 | drom | Then you'll be granted with a piece of paper and a pen. |
21:31.55 | Zmr56 | switches TV to Xhodonna marathons |
21:32.15 | Monet | NOOOH Oh wait I'm not wathing TV tright now /watches BBC iPLayer |
21:33.09 | Avilladox | backs away from his TV |
21:33.18 | drom | Because you'll be sent to nearby insituation to be executed. |
21:33.27 | drom | The method of execution will be... |
21:34.18 | Avilladox | Listening to me sing |
21:34.59 | drom | Tickling you with a feather until you die by cardic arrest. |
21:35.50 | Avilladox | I'm honestly not sure which one is cruler. |
21:37.39 | drom | Ontop that, you are forced to watch a series of Justin beiber, rick-n-roll, Madonna and a documentary on fedora-tipping neckbeards. |
21:37.48 | Hachiman | There's a mockumentary on television about mermaids |
21:38.35 | Wormy | What I see when people tease xho http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/bullying_a_dragon_862.jpg |
21:38.58 | Xho | In real life perhaps |
21:39.06 | Xho | But considering all I am to the rest of you is text |
21:39.12 | Xho | I can't really do much hur |
21:39.44 | drom | Xho: It's time for you to serve your punishment. |
21:40.50 | Ghelae | I'm going to go now. Bye! |
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21:42.38 | Xho | drom: Gimme 10 mintues |
21:42.40 | Xho | *minutes |
21:44.20 | Avilladox | Hachiman: I saw one with some pretty freaky looking Mermaids |
21:44.42 | drom | Xho: No, we got no time to kiss goodbye to your Kicath contacts, beers and satanic gods. |
21:44.55 | drom | Off to the cell with you! |
21:44.55 | Xho | Oh Christ |
21:45.41 | drom | And no goats! |
21:46.13 | Xho | bah |
21:47.00 | Avilladox | Foolish mortal. One does not simply lock up Xho. |
21:47.12 | Xho | It's easier than it looks |
21:47.20 | drom | He has nothing to bring to his cell. |
21:47.27 | drom | Nothing, nothing. |
21:47.46 | drom | *takes Xho's immortality away* |
21:48.08 | Sporeraptor | bye |
21:48.13 | drom | bye |
21:48.31 | drom | 1 sec too late. |
21:48.34 | drom | bah |
21:54.21 | Zmr56 | My gaming life is getting lonely :( |
21:54.42 | drom | You got me. |
21:55.28 | Zmr56 | Aye, you and Tek and Drodos |
21:55.48 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/CdMokwb.png |
21:56.14 | Zmr56 | But Civ 5 keeps crashing, I suck at TF2 and Gmod I have no idea what the hell I'm doing |
21:56.53 | drom | shaddap playing civ5 on windows 8 |
21:57.00 | drom | win8 is the shit |
21:57.11 | Zmr56 | ^ |
21:57.24 | drom | No support for XP-mode. |
21:57.34 | drom | Many game of mines crashes alot on that. |
21:57.52 | Zmr56 | I have to deal with Win8, you know what adults are like getting all the latest stuff |
21:58.07 | Zmr56 | Win7 is alright |
21:58.30 | drom | It's better if you have the edition better than professional. |
21:58.51 | Zmr56 | There's also Minecraft... |
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21:59.34 | Monet | I prefer Windows 7 |
21:59.34 | Zmr56 | Minecraft is full of crack head kids now |
21:59.40 | Zmr56 | Hi |
21:59.43 | drom | hi |
22:00.45 | Technobliterator | windows 8 is godawful |
22:01.01 | Zmr56 | And I've already had a good match of DotA 2 for today, don't want to over do it |
22:01.26 | Technobliterator | it's just Dota, not DotA |
22:01.41 | Zmr56 | Meh, I like the Extra A |
22:01.46 | drom | Man, I need some good bucks to upgrade my license to professional. So I can use my XP-mode. |
22:01.47 | Technobliterator | I don't |
22:01.49 | Technobliterator | :c |
22:01.52 | Zmr56 | Sometimes I call it DotAnus :£ |
22:02.08 | drom | So I can play nostalgia games such as Civ2 ToT |
22:02.13 | Zmr56 | *:3 |
22:03.13 | drom | DotAtoe |
22:03.19 | drom | Dot-a-Toe |
22:04.09 | Xho | Dawn of the Game That Drains People's Souls Out |
22:04.15 | Xho | 2 |
22:04.16 | drom | Make it, Smash-a-toe |
22:04.18 | Zmr56 | I like DotA, it's one of the few games where I don't care about winning |
22:04.19 | OfficerJackal_ | I don't understand the hate for Window 8 really, it starts up faster for me then Windows 7, and I've grown to like the start-menu with all of the apps and stuff on it. Plus, it has much better security then Windows 7. |
22:04.28 | OfficerJackal_ | :/ |
22:04.33 | Technobliterator | I do |
22:04.38 | Zmr56 | Many games crash on Win8 |
22:04.41 | drom | Win8 has no support for XP-mode. |
22:04.42 | Technobliterator | Windows 8 is an embarassing piece of shit from a shitty company |
22:04.49 | Zmr56 | AYE! |
22:04.49 | drom | Win7 has it. |
22:05.05 | Technobliterator | hurr durr ill just remove the start button and make an OS for a tablet on a PC |
22:05.06 | Monet | Its designed more for tablets |
22:05.11 | Technobliterator | genius microsofto |
22:05.15 | Technobliterator | 10 out of bloody 10 |
22:05.15 | drom | With the XP-mode, you can play nostalgia and old games, such as Civ2. |
22:05.43 | OfficerJackal_ | backs up into a corner, as the hordes of the Windows 7 army corner him, while he mutters "I should not have said that... I should not have said that..." before boxes of the Windows 7 OS filled with concrete get thrown at thim. |
22:05.56 | Technobliterator | Windows 7 army? |
22:05.59 | Technobliterator | is a linux user |
22:06.06 | Xho | Windows 8 seems alright to me |
22:06.12 | Zmr56 | is the commander of the Army |
22:06.19 | Zmr56 | NO MERCI! |
22:06.32 | drom | I got Linux and Win7 at one machine. |
22:06.37 | drom | 1 Macbook |
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22:06.41 | Avilladox | ducks into a hole to avoid the war |
22:06.45 | Zmr56 | Apart from the Game crashes I don't mind |
22:06.46 | Avilladox | Hi |
22:06.48 | Xho | Better enjoy it while it lasts as Windows 8 will be mainstream support by 2106 |
22:06.48 | Zmr56 | Hi |
22:06.51 | Xho | 2016 even |
22:06.51 | drom | And the black sheep of my collection, the bloody friggin' 8. |
22:07.59 | drom | Xho: Windows Infinite |
22:08.45 | Technobliterator | well microsoft is a company who sucks balls |
22:08.52 | Technobliterator | and will hopefully die soon |
22:08.58 | Technobliterator | (can't wait) |
22:08.58 | drom | And root |
22:09.12 | Monet | Microsoft are alreadyp lanning to bring out Windows 9 |
22:09.17 | Xho | I prefer Microsoft to Apple |
22:09.19 | Technobliterator | that's a no braienr |
22:09.23 | Technobliterator | oh yeah, so do I |
22:09.28 | drom | Monet: Gib source |
22:09.39 | Xho | Using both a Mac and then a PC |
22:10.03 | Xho | Both are good but I just prefer using a PC to a mac |
22:10.14 | Technobliterator | I prefer Macs |
22:10.24 | Technobliterator | better software |
22:10.32 | Xho | "better software" |
22:10.33 | drom | Win9 looks no more different than Win8 |
22:10.36 | Xho | It's the same software |
22:10.36 | Monet | http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/windows-9-release-date-news-and-rumours-1029245 |
22:10.39 | Technobliterator | no it's not |
22:10.46 | Technobliterator | logic pro does not exist on windows |
22:10.52 | drom | I call bs on the difference between win9 and win8. |
22:11.04 | Technobliterator | logic pro is the only thing I care about on a computer anymore, other than maybe Final Fantasy and a web browser |
22:11.05 | Monet | Xho what did you do |
22:11.10 | Technobliterator | (barely play dota ever though) |
22:11.17 | Xho | Monet: I did a lot of things |
22:12.02 | Xho | For the most part the basic tasking software you use for the Mac and then for the Windows are the same |
22:12.35 | Technobliterator | implying logic pro is basic tasking software |
22:12.43 | Xho | It's not |
22:12.56 | Technobliterator | oh wait |
22:12.59 | Technobliterator | ok I misread you |
22:13.00 | Technobliterator | lmao |
22:14.24 | drom | dis misreading will be headline in the next issue of sporenews *tries to twist 360 degrees* |
22:14.25 | Monet | PC and Mac arguments never end well |
22:14.40 | Technobliterator | macs are infinitely better and I wish I had a mac |
22:14.40 | drom | Monet: Don't forget Linux. |
22:14.47 | Technobliterator | linux is the best overall |
22:14.48 | Technobliterator | just not enough |
22:14.52 | Technobliterator | software for it |
22:15.26 | drom | It sucks though that Spore cannot installed on Macs. Even it could by a CD. |
22:15.35 | drom | Through steam. |
22:15.41 | Xho | Mac software is *incredibly* expensive though |
22:15.54 | Xho | Wait hold on lemme rephrase |
22:15.56 | Technobliterator | mac everything is incredibly expensive :P |
22:16.01 | drom | ^ |
22:16.04 | Xho | Mac desktops are *incredibly* expensive though |
22:16.08 | Technobliterator | hell, APPLE everything is incredibly expensive |
22:16.21 | Xho | I mean a Mac Pro with full specs is £13,950 |
22:16.51 | Monet | That's what I like about a PC |
22:17.05 | Monet | You can get a good-end PC for £600 |
22:17.10 | drom | http://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/apple-logic-express-9-280193.jpg |
22:17.12 | Technobliterator | mac pro is retarded |
22:17.19 | Technobliterator | just get normal mac |
22:17.39 | Xho | Normal Macs still start at £1,600 |
22:17.43 | Monet | Plus I don't have to buy a new PC when I want to upgrade it |
22:17.44 | drom | Apple's Logic Express look to be promising to replace Logic Pro |
22:17.48 | Xho | Well |
22:17.53 | drom | </s> |
22:17.58 | Xho | £1,149 actually |
22:17.58 | OfficerJackal_ | Actually, you can get Spore to work on a Mac of a current OS... I think, but it involves editing some obscure file inside of the game.. |
22:18.10 | OfficerJackal_ | I forgot it. XD |
22:18.33 | drom | I still find the Mac OS more troublesome than Win8 |
22:18.44 | Technobliterator | what |
22:18.46 | Technobliterator | :| |
22:18.51 | Technobliterator | mac os is infinitely better |
22:19.00 | Technobliterator | maybe it's a blonde thing but win8 sucks |
22:19.02 | DrodoEmpire | Windows 8 isn't that bad; I'm using it right now. |
22:19.06 | Monet | Screenshots are harder ot take |
22:19.18 | drom | Ofc it's, but using the tools and the File Explorer is complicated. |
22:19.19 | Monet | on a Mac |
22:19.32 | DrodoEmpire | It takes getting used to, sure, but in the end I actually find it intuitive. |
22:19.38 | Technobliterator | no? |
22:19.41 | drom | Because some of the core files are hidden. So you have to manually type in the path to access them. |
22:19.44 | Technobliterator | screenshots are easier to take on a mac |
22:19.52 | Technobliterator | just moving your mouse down to click grab |
22:20.00 | Technobliterator | is easier than whatever the hell I have to do on windows |
22:20.06 | DrodoEmpire | And before you call me an "idiot" or some crap; Yes, I used other OSes before, and I like Win8. |
22:20.25 | drom | win7 and linux are the masterrace |
22:20.33 | Technobliterator | nope |
22:20.37 | Technobliterator | linux is master race |
22:20.39 | Xho | I think for gamers especially Windows definitely beats Mac |
22:20.45 | drom | and if win7 is earsed from extience, go SteamOS. |
22:21.08 | drom | And earse your hellspawn from your computer, premanetly. |
22:21.37 | drom | permanent* |
22:21.52 | Monet | Technobliterator: There's a button labeled "print screen" on a PC you dum |
22:22.07 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
22:22.21 | drom | Monet: I couldn't find it on my Macbook Slim through. |
22:22.38 | Monet | Macs don't have a print screen butto |
22:22.40 | Monet | button |
22:22.55 | drom | Oh well. I thought it was only my Macbook. |
22:23.24 | Technobliterator | yeah |
22:23.30 | Technobliterator | press the printscreen button |
22:23.39 | Technobliterator | instantly lose it because you have no idea where it went |
22:23.59 | DrodoEmpire | .me facepalms |
22:24.00 | drom | So. I got Ubuntu and Win7 in my machine, which I am currently using. |
22:24.03 | Monet | Usually when I press print screen I instantly dump it into paint.net |
22:24.11 | DrodoEmpire | facepalms |
22:24.44 | drom | Technobliterator, PrtScr copies your current display to the desktop. |
22:25.08 | Technobliterator | and? |
22:25.26 | drom | By that, I mean. It simply copies what you are seeing in your monitor and you have to paste it in some software, like GIMP, Paint.net or MS Paint. |
22:25.36 | Technobliterator | ...yeah? |
22:25.44 | drom | Save, and then you are done. |
22:25.52 | DrodoEmpire | That means you don't lose it instantly like you said. |
22:25.52 | Xho | Of course you could totally defeat the entire purpose and get Parallels Desktop on a Mac and own both OS and Windows |
22:25.57 | DrodoEmpire | Keep up. :P |
22:26.02 | Technobliterator | I know what it does, you know. But Grab is infinitely easier to use |
22:26.03 | Xho | That's one of the things a Mac does have over a PC though |
22:26.13 | Technobliterator | there is no "paint.net" bullshit involved |
22:26.34 | drom | There's also downloadable software that works almost like Mac's screenshooting feature. |
22:26.39 | DrodoEmpire | Its not "bullshit"; You seem to be getting overly heated about this. :P |
22:26.52 | Xho | But it is kind of odd that you can use Windows on a Mac |
22:26.58 | Xho | Sort of defeats the purpose of having a Mac |
22:27.37 | Xho | I use that at work and I'm not quite sure why we use a Mac |
22:27.38 | drom | Xho: My school probhits users from installing any OS else than the Mac's standard issue. |
22:27.51 | Technobliterator | it is pretty bullshit |
22:27.53 | Xho | drom: Well that's silly hur |
22:27.57 | Technobliterator | because it's rage inducing |
22:28.07 | Xho | But I dunno why we use a Mac at work when we use Windows as well |
22:28.16 | DrodoEmpire | Not if you how, Tech. |
22:28.25 | Technobliterator | I do know how |
22:28.27 | Technobliterator | still rage inducing |
22:28.28 | drom | Xho: Because they think you are destroying your computer on purpose by that. |
22:28.32 | DrodoEmpire | To take a screenshot; A few extra steps, oooh |
22:28.35 | Xho | hur |
22:28.36 | drom | And don't ask me why. |
22:28.52 | drom | Just... typical school policies. |
22:28.53 | Hachiman | Computers at my college are installed with both Mac and Windows 7 |
22:29.08 | Xho | I think it's mainly because our main business dataflow system is only supported by Windows |
22:29.45 | Xho | Then again there's only four people in the company who use Macs |
22:29.51 | Xho | Myself and three others |
22:30.04 | Xho | And we all use it mainly for the design software |
22:30.27 | drom | Why is it better for design software than the counter-part? |
22:30.32 | *** join/#sporewiki Avilladox (62eab6ac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.234.182.172) |
22:30.39 | Xho | No clue |
22:32.02 | Xho | I think the main attraction to a Mac is that it looks contemporary and innovative so people choose it |
22:33.08 | Xho | But I do find the Mac to be infuriating sometimes |
22:34.04 | Xho | As for the the software we use |
22:34.07 | Xho | Well...that's expensive |
22:34.13 | drom | Windows laptops = bricks |
22:34.24 | drom | Macs = razor blades |
22:34.24 | Wormy | My PC outperforms my Dad's Mac and they are pretty similar in power, except mine can render stuff in Maya a third faster |
22:35.44 | Xho | We use Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Acrobat Pro, QuarkXPress |
22:36.10 | drom | dohohohodododo. "QuarkXPress" |
22:36.19 | drom | Made me chuckle |
22:36.32 | Xho | y |
22:36.48 | Hachiman | cuz quark |
22:37.15 | drom | quark is also the sound of a quarking duck |
22:37.28 | Xho | So you're looking at over £2,000 of software there |
22:37.41 | Xho | Quark in itself is over £800 I think |
22:38.52 | Wormy | Three quarks for muster mark! |
22:39.02 | drom | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark |
22:39.11 | *** join/#sporewiki Tybusen (40862e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.46.5) |
22:39.13 | Xho | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuarkXPress dis u stoopid |
22:40.23 | Wormy | drom: Its quack |
22:40.39 | drom | Xho: We are not stupid, we are scientists. |
22:41.19 | Zmr56 | wot da hell is dis compootah stoof |
22:41.26 | Xho | I dunno really |
22:41.28 | Zmr56 | is mind boggoled |
22:41.32 | drom | Wormy: Whenever I try imitate that sound, "quark" is one of them. |
22:41.50 | Xho | But yes, bottom line is, I still think Windows has a lot over Mac |
22:42.03 | Zmr56 | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406223652/spore/images/5/56/Spore_2014-04-06_23-35-14.png It's a WIP Space Station |
22:42.21 | Xho | Despite Windows 8 being slightly clunky |
22:42.44 | Monet | "quark" is how posh ducks do it |
22:42.55 | drom | Zmr56: <Zmr56> http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406223652/spore/images/5/56/Spore_2014-04-06_23-35-14.png It's a WIP Space Station |
22:42.58 | Tybusen | Microsoft really has to actively try to screw themselves over if they are ever going to lose the desktop computer field to Mac |
22:42.59 | drom | What |
22:43.12 | drom | No. |
22:43.18 | drom | Zmr56: I mean't this. http://i.imgur.com/RZ5YFLl.png |
22:43.24 | drom | meant* |
22:43.34 | drom | fite me now |
22:43.46 | Zmr56 | MINE IS MADE OUT OF PAPER! |
22:43.56 | Xho | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140319150826/spore/images/5/5e/CenescaraeMegaconstruct.png I ENTER THE RING |
22:44.35 | Zmr56 | Looks dumba pffft |
22:44.38 | drom | Xho: I hate it when it looks like a Maya/Blender render. |
22:44.50 | Wormy | Monet: Southerner ducks |
22:44.57 | Xho | Drom: eh |
22:46.07 | Monet | I feel like remodeling my DI space station now |
22:46.08 | drom | nvm, I'm familiar with Blender and Maya anyway. |
22:47.28 | Xho | If I only had the patience to learn how to use Maya or Blender |
22:47.39 | Xho | I'd make models/settings for things |
22:49.10 | Xho | Anyway I'm going to sleep now because tired |
22:49.21 | Wormy | bye |
22:49.41 | Avilladox | Bye |
22:53.02 | Zmr56 | Sleep nicely |
22:53.09 | Zmr56 | :3 |
22:53.40 | drom | Okay. Here's NC's space station. |
22:53.41 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/eCP2B48.png |
22:53.44 | *** join/#sporewiki Liquid_Ink (65a533e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.165.51.230) |
22:54.29 | Hachiman | Looks Eldar-like |
22:54.35 | drom | The russians and austrailians should be awake now. |
22:54.41 | drom | And asians. |
22:54.52 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
22:54.55 | Hachiman | On the contrary, Imp is long asleep |
22:54.59 | Wormy | ^ |
22:55.16 | drom | He's still in Israel? |
22:55.20 | Wormy | I don't think we have any Eastern Russians here |
22:55.31 | Hachiman | Nah he's come back |
22:55.34 | Wormy | He went back, yesterday I think |
22:55.38 | drom | Ah. |
22:56.05 | drom | brb googling "eldar" and then off to sleep |
22:56.59 | drom | some w40 faction |
22:57.03 | Monet | That station looks good for cutting things |
22:57.08 | drom | w40k* |
22:57.09 | Hachiman | Aye |
22:57.15 | Hachiman | Eldar are fukin awesome |
22:57.36 | Wormy | elves in spaaaic |
22:57.47 | drom | Here's one in the orbit. http://i.imgur.com/RZ5YFLl.png |
22:57.51 | Hachiman | Aye but they're advanced elves |
22:58.15 | Monet | "some wh40k faction" |
22:58.37 | Wormy | We have a lot of teaching to do |
22:58.38 | Monet | How dare you insult the Eldar you ignorant mon'kaigh! |
22:58.44 | drom | Funny how... |
22:59.14 | drom | eldar = (he's) burning (firewood) |
22:59.33 | drom | So "Han eldar ved" = "He's burning firewood" |
22:59.33 | Zmr56 | Nnnngh intensifies! I can't put the Red Star of Mardvaeli on my Space Station! :( |
22:59.54 | Wormy | Why? |
23:00.07 | drom | It's 1 at night here. |
23:00.20 | Wormy | In Adventure editor or space editor? |
23:00.22 | drom | Time for bed |
23:00.49 | Wormy | 1 hour behind |
23:01.01 | Wormy | 00:00 |
23:01.24 | Zmr56 | Space Editor |
23:01.52 | *** join/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda (~anonymous@103.21.134.111) |
23:02.00 | Wormy | There is a few things you can do |
23:02.09 | Zmr56 | Hello |
23:02.11 | drom | btw, something I just realized, "eldar" = "eld" in pural form. And "eld" = fire. |
23:02.14 | drom | night. |
23:02.30 | Zmr56 | Go to sleep ya Swedish drag queen |
23:02.45 | Wormy | For one, make sure each object has been separated by it's symmetrical twin thing (I forget the name of this) |
23:03.25 | Wormy | If you can't relieve the complexity metre |
23:04.10 | Angrybirds | A defining episode in French Andromedan history: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ABattle_of_Chodia.png |
23:04.17 | Wormy | You could cheat (but you might not save), or make the symbol separately, and place both models (as objects) in the adventure editor together |
23:04.32 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
23:04.42 | Wormy | Or take pictures of both objects then add them as layers in an image editing program |
23:05.28 | Hachiman | Photos have layers |
23:06.08 | Zmr56 | Hi |
23:06.56 | Zmr56 | Angrybirds: the red atmosphere makes the battle look very intense and harsh |
23:07.15 | Angrybirds | I was very happy to discover that. :P |
23:09.24 | Zmr56 | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406230840/spore/images/5/56/Spore_2014-04-06_23-35-14.png TADADADADA! |
23:09.29 | Wormy | I just thought of something |
23:09.35 | Angrybirds | Zmr56 : NICE |
23:09.42 | Wormy | There should be a science news channel. |
23:09.47 | Zmr56 | is pleased |
23:09.58 | Angrybirds | Wormy : SciShow |
23:10.03 | Zmr56 | WOrmy: That sounds like a good diea |
23:10.08 | Angrybirds | Zmr56 : What is that. |
23:10.09 | Angrybirds | ? |
23:10.23 | Zmr56 | Tis a Space Station |
23:10.32 | Wormy | Angrybirds: On TV |
23:10.49 | Wormy | I still watch that archaic thing sometimes |
23:10.53 | Angrybirds | Wormy : Why are you looking for quality programming on TV? |
23:11.23 | Wormy | I'm proposing good quality programming. |
23:11.41 | Wormy | I'd watch science news channel all day |
23:13.24 | Hachiman | https://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1977188_431816756962672_5194846385607872340_n.png |
23:14.22 | Monet | Zmr56: Those fins almost look like they're levitating |
23:14.45 | Zmr56 | heh they do |
23:15.39 | Zmr56 | Well they look like they're levitating I mean |
23:15.44 | Zmr56 | Oh wellsie gtg |
23:15.51 | Zmr56 | BYE YA nice people |
23:21.10 | Wormy | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26912064 |
23:22.23 | Angrybirds | Toyed with the brightness/contrast a bit: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140406232123/spore/images/c/c5/Battle_of_Chodia_3.png |
23:23.59 | Liquid_Ink | Who dey fighting with? |
23:24.31 | Angrybirds | The Xenians, a race of Andromedan natives with whom they didn't exactly get along. |
23:24.54 | Angrybirds | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Andromedan_Colonies#Xenian_War |
23:27.45 | Wormy | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26844425 |
23:28.00 | Wormy | I thought I was coughing and sneezing more this last couple of days |
23:29.34 | Wormy | Hachiman, Monet: Have you two experienced heightened levels of irritation |
23:29.48 | Hachiman | A bit |
23:30.05 | Wormy | It is possibly the Saharan dust |
23:30.44 | Liquid_Ink | I made a GESS ship a couple of days ago |
23:30.58 | Liquid_Ink | Just a recolour of an Ottoman frigate, though. |
23:31.26 | Angrybirds | Great! |
23:35.06 | Wormy | ngh nanny state strikes again http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-26910318 |
23:36.33 | Wormy | I like how the runners did the marathon anyway |
23:36.40 | Wormy | and none of them suffered |
23:37.36 | Wormy | Oh god this is so funny |
23:37.48 | Wormy | I'm so pleased this time, the nanny state failed |
23:38.00 | Hachiman | Aye I am happy |
23:38.16 | Hachiman | Shows how determined people are |
23:39.48 | Wormy | Indeed, why should they have their time wasted? And they know what they are doing, they need more respect |
23:44.58 | Wormy | this is an age when we have five your old hackers http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26879185 |
23:46.29 | AdmiralPanda | i don't really call it hacking tbh |
23:46.49 | AdmiralPanda | just got lucky typing stuff in |
23:47.58 | Monet | I prefer PSN |
23:48.10 | Wormy | I was joking you killjoy |
23:48.21 | AdmiralPanda | :P |
23:49.15 | Wormy | I heard a woman killed herself because the digital age was too much for her |
23:49.25 | Wormy | I'm trying to look for the article |
23:49.31 | AdmiralPanda | not surprised |
23:51.33 | OfficerJackal_ | Meh, I don't particularly blame her, some people can't just deal with all the stuff that is happening now, either because it all happened too quickly or they just can't adapt to their evolving world, and they want things to stay the same. |
23:51.58 | OfficerJackal_ | But I'm no psychiatrist, so I can't really say for sure. :/ |
23:53.18 | Wormy | I think she may have had underlying problems |
23:54.06 | OfficerJackal_ | Yeah, most likely. |
23:54.07 | Wormy | They might have caught the guy behind that silly microsoft scam http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26818745 |
23:54.27 | Wormy | Or probably one of them |
23:54.57 | Wormy | I've been called by scammers like them several times |
23:55.20 | OfficerJackal_ | I've had the fortune not to be, although I'd probably just fuck with them if they did call here. |
23:57.26 | Wormy | Yes, I had fun with them |
23:57.46 | Wormy | One time they called, I told thgem I didn't have a computer, I was a luddite |
23:57.58 | Wormy | And that I only keep a phone to talk to god |
23:58.19 | Wormy | I asked him if he was god |
23:58.30 | Wormy | then he put the phone down |
23:58.35 | OfficerJackal_ | Lol. XD |