| 00:00.19 | Hachiman | Well then why not come to a compromise? Give the Fordanta a lot of their dignity back but keep their small territory and lack of managing to sustain long-term engagements |
| 00:01.36 | Wormy | They have obviously had a negative impact on your fiction. |
| 00:02.07 | Hachiman | The times have changed since the shitstorm incident |
| 00:02.12 | Hachiman | Fiction and people have changed |
| 00:02.25 | Wormy | And they have no bloody damn right to insult it the way they did. |
| 00:03.28 | AdmiralPanda | because i can't risk history repeating itself |
| 00:03.29 | Hachiman | Don't necessarily have to retcon them either; you could give them major development during the Shattering |
| 00:04.03 | Wormy | Or, perhaps they did have voidtech, but after moving to Andromeda. they couldn't bring it all with them. |
| 00:04.19 | AdmiralPanda | this place has such a big part in keeping me sane |
| 00:04.34 | AdmiralPanda | i can't risk it again |
| 00:05.59 | Wormy | Imperios3: You probably aren't awake but the the Druids and neopagans are gathering at Stone Henge in a few hours http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/spring-equinox-march-20-2014-what-it-1441008 |
| 00:06.32 | Hachiman | If me, Imp, Monet, Jo, and Ko can pull it off I'm sure you can |
| 00:06.35 | Hachiman | Panda, you don't have to be so worried |
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| 00:17.05 | Zmr56 | Hi there |
| 00:17.24 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 00:17.43 | TekDroid | Hey |
| 00:19.39 | TekDroid | How is that the antivrus that ISN'T running is using twice the memory of the one that's in the middle of a scan? O.o damn McAfee. |
| 00:20.26 | TekDroid | Takes 90% less CPU power to run the scan that McAfee too. XD |
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| 00:28.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 00:29.02 | quark8 | Hi. |
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| 00:41.37 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 00:42.50 | quark8 | Hi. |
| 00:43.05 | Hachiman | http://i.imgur.com/40XqfzJ.jpg |
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| 01:06.23 | quark8 | Hi. |
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| 01:08.39 | Hachiman | hai again |
| 01:08.47 | Wormy | hi |
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| 01:20.33 | quark8 | Hi. |
| 01:24.09 | quark8 | Bye. |
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| 01:34.55 | quark8 | Hi Oluap. |
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| 01:48.52 | Wormy | bye |
| 01:55.38 | quark8 | :( :( |
| 01:57.03 | quark8 | :( |
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| 02:03.35 | quark8 | Angrybirds_droid:Why do you have so many nicknames? |
| 02:06.55 | DrodoEmpire | Not to answer the question for him, but he doesn't have that many; Its just occasionally he's on his phone and other times on his computer; His nickname changes accordingly (for example "Angrybirds_droid" as opposed to just "AngryBirds" when on his phone) |
| 02:24.22 | quark8 | Okay. |
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| 02:59.28 | quark8 | Hi. |
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| 07:25.44 | pretzel | Hello |
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| 08:31.05 | LawfulInsane | Hello. |
| 08:31.11 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 08:31.34 | pretzel | hello |
| 08:33.31 | pretzel | whatcha doing |
| 08:35.07 | LawfulInsane | Rping with Avillan. |
| 08:35.26 | pretzel | Ah |
| 08:35.39 | LawfulInsane | Working on a stroy. |
| 08:35.49 | LawfulInsane | *story |
| 08:36.16 | pretzel | And I am having a free hour in my school. And I forgot my computer open at my home. So I am using an other name. |
| 08:36.51 | LawfulInsane | Who are you |
| 08:38.19 | pretzel | drom |
| 08:39.25 | pretzel | I could have used my nickname straight away, but I personally prefered to go by other name. Since I won't be here for long though. |
| 08:49.15 | pretzel | I see you that know a germanic language, LawfullInsane. Making think you are a german for real. |
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| 08:52.57 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 08:53.07 | pretzel | hello |
| 08:58.24 | LawfulInsane | I'm not German. |
| 08:58.44 | LawfulInsane | And what do you mean that I know a Germanic language? |
| 08:59.26 | Liquid_Ink | English is a Germanic language. So is Swedish. |
| 08:59.52 | LawfulInsane | I'm not German. |
| 09:00.01 | LawfulInsane | I'm Chinese. |
| 09:01.07 | pretzel | In a page, you implied that "gift" is poison in German. We also got that in our north-germanic languages. |
| 09:01.11 | Liquid_Ink | Oh yes, I remember. |
| 09:01.59 | LawfulInsane | I got that from Google translate and a Vocaloid song by mothy. |
| 09:04.36 | LawfulInsane | I see. |
| 09:06.08 | LawfulInsane | Hello? |
| 09:06.16 | pretzel | It works |
| 09:06.16 | AdmiralPanda | You don't have to be from a Germanic nation to speak a Germanic language |
| 09:06.23 | AdmiralPanda | I used to be able to speak Japanese but I'm Australian |
| 09:07.13 | LawfulInsane | I'm from Hong Kong. I speak Cantonese, Mandarin, English, and a little French and Japanese. So yes. |
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| 09:08.01 | AdmiralPanda | So you do speak a Germanic language |
| 09:08.54 | LawfulInsane | Used to be more fluent in it before my school stopped teaching it. |
| 09:09.16 | pretzel | Why did they stop? |
| 09:09.36 | LawfulInsane | Because the only teacher left.\ |
| 09:09.55 | pretzel | Ah. |
| 09:18.11 | pretzel | I gotta go, I have to go on a physics class now. |
| 09:18.13 | pretzel | Bye |
| 09:18.44 | LawfulInsane | Bye |
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| 11:12.51 | pretzel | hello |
| 11:13.09 | Technobliterator | hi |
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| 11:19.10 | AdmiralPanda | hello |
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| 11:43.00 | AdmiralPanda | hai u |
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| 11:43.12 | AdmiralPanda | hai u |
| 11:44.06 | Cyrannian | ohaithar |
| 11:50.06 | Technobliterator | oh hey both cyrannian and oluapdumbo |
| 11:50.15 | Cyrannian | hai |
| 11:50.47 | Cyrannian | Technobliterator: I have to say, I do like the USO. They are quite a unique fiction on the wiki. |
| 11:51.11 | Technobliterator | hey, thanks! :) I was worried that people might not be fond of them |
| 11:51.57 | AdmiralPanda | don't get me wrong, i like them, it's just you made a spoony bard the face of the party |
| 11:52.31 | OluapPlayer | That's the idea. they're lunatics |
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| 11:54.09 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 11:54.13 | Xho | u |
| 11:54.27 | Xho | "#InternationalDayOfHappiness GUYS GUYS I'M STARVING HELP GUYS" |
| 11:54.43 | OluapPlayer | wat |
| 11:55.41 | Xho | Today is 'International Day of Happiness' |
| 11:55.45 | Xho | That was my tweet |
| 11:55.47 | AdmiralPanda | Xho needs misery to breathe |
| 11:55.57 | Xho | I do |
| 11:56.09 | Xho | My friends experience a break up and I'm suddenly elated |
| 11:57.39 | Liquid_Ink | I know precisely how you feel. |
| 12:04.06 | Cyrannian | Xho: I think I found your Twitter account |
| 12:04.31 | Xho | Cyrannian: You already found my twitter account ages ago |
| 12:04.41 | Liquid_Ink | I should get a twitter account. |
| 12:05.11 | Cyrannian | Oh wait, I did |
| 12:11.42 | Cyrannian | Liquid_Ink: I would recommend it, I use it far more than Facebook for example. |
| 12:12.10 | Liquid_Ink | I only ever use facebook to speak to a woman who didn't want to use anything else |
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| 12:13.44 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 12:14.03 | Cyrannian | Hello |
| 12:16.55 | Monet | Hi |
| 12:17.16 | AdmiralPanda | hey |
| 12:19.48 | Liquid_Ink | https://24.media.tumblr.com/6f2340f653438d70cb721ba373e39f3a/tumblr_n2dvkbKW1T1tsn9yjo3_500.gif |
| 12:20.07 | Liquid_Ink | https://31.media.tumblr.com/9ca5a97305769793ce21f988552535fe/tumblr_n2dvkbKW1T1tsn9yjo6_500.gif |
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| 12:29.33 | Monet | I have a theory about health bars in gaming. |
| 12:30.21 | Monet | Some are your classic "how many bullets you can soak up before you die" |
| 12:31.25 | Monet | But I think a lot of bars are more akin to a character's luck and the probability of the last shot/hit offing them |
| 12:31.32 | Monet | Especially in modern games. |
| 12:32.54 | OluapPlayer | This reminds me of Duke Nukem Forever |
| 12:33.02 | OluapPlayer | Duke Nukem has no HP, instead he has an ego bar |
| 12:33.48 | Monet | I recall there's a pretty prevalent theory among Uncharted players that Nathan Drake is one lucky mother. And that his "health" represents the likilihood of a bullet actually hitting and killiing him. |
| 12:34.17 | Monet | Although there seems to be ambiguity as to whether Lady Luck adores or loathes Nathan |
| 12:34.58 | OluapPlayer | Getting hit by enemies decreases Duke's ego, he only dies once he takes several hits AFTER the ego bar has gone empty |
| 12:35.45 | Monet | DUke with empty bar - Fuck me I a actually suck... |
| 12:36.58 | OluapPlayer | It seems like the iea is taht he's actually impervious to damage as long as he's motivated |
| 12:37.08 | OluapPlayer | He's so egotistic he can deflect bullets hur |
| 12:37.57 | Monet | Actually from a psychological standpoint...that makes some sense |
| 12:38.32 | Monet | A duke Nukem game were something makes sense. |
| 12:38.37 | Monet | That's a first. |
| 12:38.51 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 12:44.40 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1901338_704369226252492_1646655466_n.jpg |
| 12:45.29 | OluapPlayer | olol |
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| 12:45.40 | Monet | Might see if I can pump out more pics today. |
| 12:46.19 | Monet | I feel like my stuff is quite devoid of pictures. |
| 12:46.23 | Xho | Oh great I need to make Ildrasendhánnal's page |
| 12:46.48 | Monet | There are great descriptions, I know that, I just wonder if my fic is the type that could do with a few illustrations. |
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| 12:47.13 | pretzel | I am back now. |
| 12:51.06 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: with that duke nukem point, in combat medieval soldiers were known to last up to a minute fighting on after being functionally dead |
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| 12:52.04 | Primius | Hi |
| 12:52.12 | pretzel | hi |
| 12:52.19 | Primius | May I eat you? |
| 12:52.58 | Primius | eats Nopenope |
| 12:52.59 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: Impressive. And I recall that just because you've been shot does not mean instant death |
| 12:53.24 | Monet | Most deaths in warfare happen after all the fighting has been done |
| 12:53.33 | Monet | in a sbattle |
| 12:53.34 | AdmiralPanda | yeah, being shot through the heart won't kill you straight away |
| 12:53.48 | AdmiralPanda | only headshots through the base of the skull do that |
| 12:53.54 | Xho | Cyrannian: https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10003451_2162504367138136_99129089_n.jpg Antediluvian's early yaers |
| 12:53.57 | Xho | *years |
| 12:54.26 | Primius | Can I add the eating nopenope thing to the IRC quotes page? |
| 12:54.44 | Monet | It wasn't really funny imo |
| 12:54.50 | Primius | :( |
| 12:55.08 | Primius | imadbro |
| 12:55.27 | drom|school | I would been a jihad-pretzel |
| 12:55.40 | Primius | ~kill drom's clone |
| 12:55.40 | infobot | ACTION shoots a excited positrino gun at drom's clone |
| 12:55.49 | Cyrannian | Xho: olol |
| 12:56.20 | drom|school | Why does facebook pictures always have bad quality? |
| 12:57.10 | Primius | guys |
| 12:57.23 | Monet | drom|school: Most of the time they're taken with phones |
| 12:58.32 | drom|school | Monet, I saw Xho's picture, I have already seen it somewhere else, better quality. |
| 12:58.51 | drom|school | Or it's just me |
| 13:00.00 | drom|school | And I can may recall the highest rated comment in that submission. "No tyrannosaurus sex for him." |
| 13:00.46 | Primius | Can someone make a mini-icon of http://imgur.com/qE8rzCD ? |
| 13:01.49 | Monet | drom|school: Well that picture Xho linked looks fine to me |
| 13:02.36 | Xho | What to do what to do |
| 13:02.44 | Primius | MAKE A MINI ICON FOR http://imgur.com/qE8rzCD |
| 13:02.48 | Xho | Hm no |
| 13:02.52 | Primius | :( |
| 13:03.00 | Primius | I DEMAND ONE |
| 13:03.08 | Xho | Yeah well you're not getting one from me |
| 13:03.14 | Primius | WHY NOT |
| 13:03.25 | Xho | One, I don't know how to make them |
| 13:03.30 | Primius | oh |
| 13:03.35 | Xho | Two, even if I did I wouldn't make you one |
| 13:03.38 | Xho | Nor for anyone else |
| 13:03.48 | Primius | Who makes them then? |
| 13:03.54 | Xho | I dunno everyone does |
| 13:03.59 | OluapPlayer | Tharaqím dam u |
| 13:04.03 | Primius | oluap |
| 13:04.10 | Primius | can you make mini icons? |
| 13:04.15 | OluapPlayer | No |
| 13:04.21 | Primius | :/ |
| 13:04.26 | Xho | I dunno whether to give Tharaqím a combat skin or a full set of armour |
| 13:04.32 | Monet | They're not hard to make so long as you have anything better than MS paint |
| 13:04.32 | Primius | ~kill |
| 13:04.41 | Primius | CMONBEo |
| 13:04.45 | Primius | nm |
| 13:05.18 | drom|school | I can make mini icons but I am on my mac. And my primary computer is too kaput to edit any images. |
| 13:05.24 | Xho | Ah hell I'll go for a full suit |
| 13:05.31 | drom|school | So, no. |
| 13:06.13 | Primius | RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 13:06.18 | Primius | implodes |
| 13:06.27 | drom|school | http://imgur.com/gallery/cOHre2G |
| 13:07.02 | Cyrannian | Primius: Firstly, calm the hell down. Secondly, there's a mini-portrait guide here: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AFiction_Universe/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_make_Mini-Portraits.3F |
| 13:07.26 | Xho | Dammit Magneto |
| 13:08.39 | Monet | My sides! |
| 13:09.11 | drom|school | Damnit, we gotta find them for monet! |
| 13:09.51 | drom|school | Okay. I have another imgur. http://imgur.com/gallery/ZJkOf25 |
| 13:09.57 | Primius | ~find monet's sides |
| 13:10.40 | drom|school | infobot is kaput, yo. |
| 13:12.44 | Monet | What? |
| 13:12.50 | drom|school | Well. I could link imgur here all the day, that's my confession. http://i.imgur.com/JMRkSlt.jpg |
| 13:13.16 | Monet | They're not missing, they hurt from laughing at that picture of Patrick Stewart and Cristopher Lee. |
| 13:13.36 | Primius | h |
| 13:13.38 | Primius | oh* |
| 13:15.47 | drom|school | Patrick is awesome, indeed. |
| 13:17.09 | Xho | Christopher Lee? |
| 13:17.12 | Xho | Ian McKellen u |
| 13:17.24 | Monet | Oh yeah |
| 13:17.30 | Monet | I sometimes mix them upp |
| 13:17.55 | Monet | They both have deep voices and have played sinister deep-vouiced people |
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| 13:18.52 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 13:19.17 | drom|school | Damn, this leatherback sea turtle's month makes me think of Xho's sadistisc fiction. |
| 13:19.20 | drom|school | mouth* |
| 13:19.22 | drom|school | hi |
| 13:20.43 | Monet | I think people are overreacting to this missing plane |
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| 13:20.44 | LawfulInsane | Hello. |
| 13:21.20 | drom|school | hello again |
| 13:22.44 | Monet | Although that's probably because for the people talking about it, its a one-in-a-million event |
| 13:22.56 | Xho | Actually no I changed my mind on Tharaqím, giving him a combat skin |
| 13:23.06 | Xho | Shka'Tun are damn hard to outfit |
| 13:23.25 | LawfulInsane | o |
| 13:24.02 | drom|school | Xho: I am no expert in making outfits, but I could try. |
| 13:24.20 | drom|school | Another imgury if you guys don't mind me about it. http://imgur.com/gallery/GT8QO8p |
| 13:24.41 | Monet | Xho: I can imagine the Shka'Tun have the technology to make armour plating that, while being as thick as normal leather, can stop most bullets |
| 13:27.18 | Xho | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320132647/spore/images/2/2d/Tharaq%C3%ADm.png There we go |
| 13:27.24 | Xho | I don't like it very much |
| 13:27.42 | OluapPlayer | Sleeky |
| 13:28.06 | drom|school | It's sleeky indeed, but it looks underdetailed compared to your other works. |
| 13:28.10 | LawfulInsane | o |
| 13:28.16 | Xho | drom|school: Exactly |
| 13:28.27 | drom|school | But I too had issues to give my creations an unique outift. |
| 13:28.32 | drom|school | have' |
| 13:28.46 | Xho | I might give him a heavier suit later |
| 13:28.51 | Monet | I'd say that if the Forerunners classify this http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091201214244/halo/images/f/f1/Halo3MC.jpg as this http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100616231917/halofanon/images/0/0e/Forerunner_origins.jpg Shka'Tun doing something similar should be no problem |
| 13:29.14 | Monet | Xho: Maybe try something like I did with the Theian combat skins? |
| 13:29.28 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tantummodo_Mortem/Ex_Umbra_In_Solem first two sections are up |
| 13:29.53 | Monet | Xho: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130113114555/spore/images/2/2b/THeian_Combat1.png |
| 13:30.08 | LawfulInsane | gud @both |
| 13:30.36 | Xho | Could work |
| 13:30.54 | Xho | Bah lemme go back on Spore and rethink this |
| 13:32.02 | Monet | I think with enough advances in metallurgy and nanoengineering, armour is going ot get less and less bulky over time |
| 13:33.09 | drom|school | I feel like that there's something in fictionverse that's similar to this old 4chano: http://i.imgur.com/RAzvjqq.png |
| 13:34.02 | OluapPlayer | Santorakh |
| 13:35.06 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3APoison_Drake I also made this page last night |
| 13:36.01 | Monet | http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/07/photogalleries/spacesuit-pictures/ humanity itself is heading towards an era where the old Apollo spacesuits will be an outdated concept |
| 13:37.11 | drom|school | I wonder why I do often relate the kicath to the xhodocto? |
| 13:37.37 | OluapPlayer | Kicath relate to the Vi'Navitum and xi'Arazulha, who relate to the Xhodocto |
| 13:37.49 | drom|school | hm |
| 13:37.51 | Monet | Tbf most of Xho's stuff inclines towards genocide and violence. |
| 13:38.02 | drom|school | And "king of space"? |
| 13:38.43 | LawfulInsane | XD |
| 13:39.22 | Monet | "The suit isn't ready for use in space yet, but Newman expects the BioSuit to be ready for liftoff in about ten years." >> I do hope the Mars Landing uses these suits |
| 13:40.17 | drom|school | If dat's ture, I imagine a similar image of 4chans "i am the king of space" but with xhodocto, which decorates xho as an avatar. |
| 13:41.09 | LawfulInsane | hur |
| 13:42.18 | drom|school | In blazingly red, crimson, white and black colors. |
| 13:43.30 | Monet | Draconis - "Miss Universe?" More like Miss Arda! |
| 13:44.20 | drom|school | Time for adorable gif. http://imgur.com/gallery/udeR2X1 |
| 13:44.56 | Monet | Draconis - I do not understand why these humasn award their kind such misleading titles. |
| 13:45.55 | drom|school | http://imgur.com/gallery/Pl4KeWD |
| 13:47.34 | drom|school | Human - Because we are the masterrace of universe. |
| 13:47.43 | LawfulInsane | And why? |
| 13:48.25 | Monet | Draconis - Oh please. |
| 13:48.42 | Monet | ALso Drom are you on a break? |
| 13:49.02 | LawfulInsane | Either that or he didn't change his nick. |
| 13:49.36 | drom|school | Our math teacher was supposed to come, but didn't arrive 50mins since our class started |
| 13:49.48 | drom|school | I guess I'll go home instead. |
| 13:49.52 | LawfulInsane | O_O |
| 13:50.13 | LawfulInsane | How in the world does THAT happen |
| 13:50.18 | drom|school | This is the 3rd time she does that. |
| 13:50.23 | drom|school | In two weeks |
| 13:50.42 | Monet | Then I think you need to tell someone. |
| 13:50.58 | drom|school | But that probably because he's the ex-headmisteress. |
| 13:51.10 | drom|school | she* |
| 13:52.09 | LawfulInsane | And what does that have to do with anything |
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| 13:53.07 | drom|school | The actual principal is away on vacation? She takes his place when he's away. |
| 13:53.42 | LawfulInsane | Oh. |
| 13:54.11 | drom|school | Anyway. I am off to grab the bus back to my dormitory before it's too late, otherwise I have to go 20 extra minutes. |
| 13:54.33 | Monet | Are you at a boarding school or university? |
| 13:56.25 | LawfulInsane | test |
| 14:00.53 | LawfulInsane | ... |
| 14:06.23 | LawfulInsane | Gammon chat. |
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| 14:06.40 | Imperios | Ello |
| 14:07.04 | LawfulInsane | Hello |
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| 14:12.09 | Xho | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320140848/spore/images/2/2d/Tharaq%C3%ADm.png Remade |
| 14:12.54 | OluapPlayer | Scaly armor |
| 14:13.50 | Monet_ | That's pretty cool |
| 14:13.58 | Monet_ | I knew you'd come up with something heh |
| 14:14.07 | Xho | The original suit fully covered his body |
| 14:14.12 | Xho | -> crashed spore |
| 14:14.18 | Imperios2 | He looks medieval |
| 14:14.42 | Imperios2 | A bit Japanese, too |
| 14:14.54 | Xho | Well he is 1.6 million years old |
| 14:15.13 | Monet_ | You need ot somethign about your computer man |
| 14:16.35 | Xho | Disregarding Arkarixus' cryogenic sleep and the essential characters Tharaqím is Tantum's oldest participant |
| 14:16.56 | Xho | And probably the oldest character on the wiki with a given age |
| 14:17.30 | Imperios | Monet_: Are you talking to Xho |
| 14:17.33 | Imperios | ? |
| 14:17.46 | Monet_ | Imperios: Yes |
| 14:18.20 | OluapPlayer | Tharaqím - i seen some shit |
| 14:18.22 | Monet_ | Since apparently outfis above a certain complexity crash hisd game. |
| 14:18.45 | Imperios | Dum |
| 14:18.49 | Xho | Yeah |
| 14:19.08 | Xho | But these are immensely complex creations though |
| 14:19.22 | Imperios | Hm |
| 14:19.33 | Imperios | What kind of magic would Empire of Man humans use |
| 14:19.47 | OluapPlayer | Hitler magic |
| 14:19.49 | Xho | Nazi magic |
| 14:19.51 | Xho | c |
| 14:19.54 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 14:19.56 | Xho | hivemind fascism rite dere |
| 14:20.16 | OluapPlayer | I'm gonna make that Tantum summary since I got nothing to do atm |
| 14:20.56 | Xho | k den |
| 14:21.55 | OluapPlayer | Should this go on the main page or on its own subpage? |
| 14:22.01 | Imperios | Magical Zyklon-B clouds hur |
| 14:22.24 | Xho | olol |
| 14:22.31 | Xho | Well you could create a Synopsis subpage |
| 14:22.38 | Xho | And then expand from there |
| 14:22.45 | OluapPlayer | rite |
| 14:23.23 | Imperios | Gah you just reminded me |
| 14:23.39 | Imperios | I still need to explain my part of Tantum somehow |
| 14:23.50 | Imperios | Right now it makes little sense |
| 14:23.53 | Xho | Venoriel - portals bitch |
| 14:25.08 | Xho | Oh damn I forgot to take a picture of Ildrasendhánnal |
| 14:27.47 | OluapPlayer | stoopid |
| 14:27.52 | OluapPlayer | Did you save his model at least? |
| 14:27.57 | Xho | Yeah |
| 14:28.00 | Xho | Jesus |
| 14:28.10 | Xho | I made Ildrasendhánnal in June |
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| 14:28.43 | Imperios2 | You know |
| 14:28.51 | Imperios2 | Once we're done with Tantum |
| 14:28.56 | Xho | No wait October, damn American date system |
| 14:28.57 | OluapPlayer | aka never |
| 14:28.59 | Imperios2 | Could we pleade remake my part of it? |
| 14:29.14 | Imperios2 | From a failure it turned out to |
| 14:29.29 | Xho | Imperios2: Only if we know it won't take a quarter of a year to finish |
| 14:29.30 | OluapPlayer | As long as you don't take 3 months to rp, yes I'll gladly do it |
| 14:29.34 | Xho | c |
| 14:29.36 | Imperios2 | be |
| 14:30.03 | Imperios2 | *From the failure it turned out to ne |
| 14:30.03 | Imperios2 | *be |
| 14:31.14 | Imperios2 | I WAS BUSY I DID NOT HAVE TIME AND IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN BUT NOW MY REPUTATION IS RUINED |
| 14:31.33 | Imperios2 | PLEASE BELIEVE ME |
| 14:31.37 | OluapPlayer | Reputation ruined |
| 14:31.41 | OluapPlayer | You're going too far there |
| 14:31.54 | OluapPlayer | One mistake doesn't mean all your fiction is bad |
| 14:32.00 | OluapPlayer | I ejoyed TND for example |
| 14:32.13 | OluapPlayer | And I still wanna do the shirtless plot |
| 14:32.29 | Imperios2 | Well every time I talk about my section you mention it being long |
| 14:32.48 | Imperios2 | It's my last school year |
| 14:33.21 | Xho | I forgot what Shirtless Plot even means hur |
| 14:33.54 | Imperios2 | And we can work on shirtless plot now |
| 14:34.10 | Imperios2 | I believe so at least |
| 14:34.36 | OluapPlayer | It's the plot starring Venoriel's horny daughter and a Dracogodasimer hur |
| 14:34.47 | drom | I am home at my dorm now. |
| 14:35.01 | Imperios2 | *sigh* You see, I did not have time. Once I pass my exams time will not be as scarce as it was |
| 14:35.12 | Imperios2 | And the plot will go faster |
| 14:35.16 | Imperios2 | Understand? |
| 14:35.33 | OluapPlayer | So, when you have time, we can re-do it and make it all good again |
| 14:35.42 | Imperios2 | Yeah |
| 14:36.03 | Monet_ | Imperios: You doin Uni next year? |
| 14:36.29 | Imperios2 | Ya |
| 14:36.43 | Xho | Well that's a lot of shirtless then |
| 14:36.50 | Imperios2 | Saint Petersburg State University, Philological Faculty |
| 14:36.58 | Imperios2 | If I pass of course |
| 14:37.35 | Imperios2 | If whatever happened in Crimea will stay in there |
| 14:37.40 | Imperios2 | *stays |
| 14:37.44 | Imperios2 | And I am lucky |
| 14:38.05 | Imperios2 | I could even go to UK for studying eventually |
| 14:38.56 | drom | Monet_, no. Gymnasium. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnasium_(school) |
| 14:39.38 | Monet_ | Ah right |
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| 14:39.54 | Monet_ | I was curious how you were in a dorm that's all. |
| 14:39.56 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 14:41.05 | drom | I live in Småland, which is in south of Sweden. But I study at a city, Örebro, which is located at central Sweden. |
| 14:41.12 | drom | That's why I live in a dormitory. |
| 14:41.33 | Imperios2 | drom: Gymnasium is just a type of school in Russia |
| 14:41.40 | Imperios2 | I studied in one when I was 7 |
| 14:41.44 | Imperios2 | 7 to 10 |
| 14:41.48 | drom | Hm? |
| 14:42.21 | Imperios2 | Monet_: A dorm isn't necessary for me; I live in a big city, remember? |
| 14:42.31 | Imperios2 | The Northern Capital |
| 14:42.46 | Monet_ | I was sking Drom about the dorm |
| 14:42.50 | Imperios2 | Ah |
| 14:42.55 | drom | Here, we study in those at age 16-19. 3-4 years, depending on your educational program and how much you partake in the education. |
| 14:43.07 | Imperios2 | Saint-Petersburg is often called the "Cultural Capital of Russia" |
| 14:43.10 | drom | After that, you can go college or uni. |
| 14:43.25 | Imperios2 | Meaning we're basically Alderaan to Moscow's Coruscant |
| 14:45.09 | drom | The obligatory school starts when you are 6-7 old and it ends when you are 15-16 old. |
| 14:46.08 | Cyrannian|Busy | Monet_: I enjoyed the first part of the Andromedan campaign. |
| 14:46.39 | Monet_ | Cyrannian: I am going ot add a little more to it |
| 14:47.37 | Cyrannian|Busy | Cool |
| 14:48.07 | Imperios2 | God, are you starting it already |
| 14:48.11 | Imperios2 | *slams head* |
| 14:48.25 | Monet_ | Imperios2: Slightly separate fro mthe Shattering |
| 14:48.54 | Imperios2 | It's just that I won't be able to participate greatly in your story til June |
| 14:49.03 | drom | For those who are curious... it's grade school to be correct. You get educated for 9 years. If you get graduated with least E in everything, you can go at gymnasium, but the eligibility to get in an educational program depends on your school-leaving certificate. |
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| 14:52.03 | OluapPlayer | This is gonna be a long synopsis |
| 14:52.13 | OluapPlayer | I got a load of text done and I'm still halfway through the Into the Fire arc |
| 14:52.28 | Xho | oho |
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| 15:02.50 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/y5s3TqX.jpg |
| 15:03.41 | Monet_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gigaquadrantic_Conflicts/Andromeda#An_Emperor.27s_Liege now it's ready |
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| 15:05.22 | Imperios2 | Monet: I have an idea about how the Divinarium could intervene |
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| 15:06.12 | Monet_ | Imperios2: Well Edoshai did suggest to Uriel to talk to Iovera about what's up with Cyrannus |
| 15:06.32 | Monet_ | Also I winder myself if Edoshai greeted Uriel ever-so-slightly disrespectfully. |
| 15:08.45 | Monet_ | Its just that in the pecking order of the Imperium, Uriel is still above Edoshai |
| 15:10.02 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Ildrasendh%C3%A1nnal There |
| 15:10.23 | Technobliterator | sweeeeeeeet |
| 15:10.47 | Technobliterator | I have been promoted on the FFWiki :D |
| 15:10.47 | drom | It looks awesome. |
| 15:10.47 | Imperios2 | Congratulations |
| 15:10.47 | drom | Congratulations |
| 15:10.47 | Xho | Technobliterator: dun care quoet paeg |
| 15:10.48 | drom | Final Fantasy, eh? |
| 15:10.54 | Technobliterator | yep |
| 15:10.59 | Technobliterator | is a ridiculously huge fan |
| 15:13.24 | Imperios2 | Technobliterator: Hm |
| 15:13.38 | Imperios2 | What kind of magic could Empire humans use? |
| 15:13.49 | Technobliterator | what do you mean? |
| 15:14.02 | OluapPlayer | olol Nu's quote |
| 15:14.10 | Imperios2 | Well light magic, fire magic etc |
| 15:14.44 | Technobliterator | Do we have a list of magics? |
| 15:14.44 | Xho | “You're a grade-A douchebag, you know that?” - Agent Mu |
| 15:14.54 | OluapPlayer | I imagine fire magic is the most widespread kind of magic |
| 15:15.09 | Imperios2 | Not really |
| 15:15.11 | Technobliterator | why don't we have white magic and black magic? |
| 15:15.12 | Xho | Ildrasendhánnal - *kicks Mu in the nuts through the ceiling* Yes |
| 15:15.16 | Technobliterator | white for healing, black for damaging |
| 15:15.19 | Imperios2 | We do |
| 15:15.23 | Technobliterator | (totally not an idea from FF) |
| 15:15.24 | Technobliterator | oh eright |
| 15:15.24 | Xho | dat wacist |
| 15:15.31 | OluapPlayer | That's light and dark magic respectively |
| 15:15.41 | Imperios2 | White Power Magic |
| 15:15.41 | Xho | y u no say dat den |
| 15:16.04 | Monet_ | IIRC there is only white and black magic in FF |
| 15:16.15 | Monet_ | Wheras in Koldenwelt we have all kinds of schools |
| 15:16.17 | Imperios2 | Used for settinf crosses on fire and choking black people |
| 15:16.21 | Xho | In Fantasyverse there's a lot |
| 15:16.36 | Imperios2 | All kinds of magic can be used for good or bad I believe |
| 15:16.39 | Xho | As well as otherworldly magics if you really want to mess yourself up |
| 15:16.57 | Imperios2 | Fire could cauterise OR burn, for example |
| 15:17.09 | OluapPlayer | As far as I know there's a kind of magic for each element |
| 15:17.13 | Imperios2 | Yeah |
| 15:17.34 | Monet_ | I am not sure entirely but I think FF's concept derives from Yin and Yang. |
| 15:17.48 | Cyrannian|Busy | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320151710/spore/images/6/68/TarKuuraen01.png - Tar Kurraen is a seedy ecumenopolis in the Outer Rim of Cyrannus rife with crime and disorder. |
| 15:18.02 | Xho | Nu - fuk dat i aint goin dere |
| 15:18.22 | OluapPlayer | That's a nice looking city |
| 15:18.57 | Monet_ | It looks very seedy, if impressive |
| 15:19.07 | Monet_ | :Capitalism.png: |
| 15:19.59 | Technobliterator | urm |
| 15:20.08 | Technobliterator | I think humans should use all types of magic |
| 15:20.11 | Technobliterator | depending on the individual |
| 15:20.12 | Imperios2 | Rotting decadent capitalist imperialist city |
| 15:20.18 | Imperios2 | True |
| 15:20.25 | Technobliterator | rife with crime and disorder. |
| 15:20.28 | Technobliterator | Billig - FUCKYEAH |
| 15:20.36 | OluapPlayer | Dark magic shouldn't be a widespread thing |
| 15:20.46 | OluapPlayer | It should be restricted to rogues like witches and the like |
| 15:21.02 | Imperios2 | Time for a revolution! All power to the soviets! *waves red flag* |
| 15:21.04 | Cyrannian|Busy | Though the higher levels of the city are very glitzy and glamorous. 1920s esque. |
| 15:21.30 | Technobliterator | anyone interested in fiction stuff? |
| 15:21.40 | Technobliterator | (by that I mean, my fiction stuff) |
| 15:21.42 | Imperios2 | Not me, I meed to do some stuff |
| 15:21.47 | Monet_ | Cyrannian|Busy: Art Deco style? |
| 15:21.51 | OluapPlayer | I'm writing a synopsis for Tantrum |
| 15:21.53 | Imperios2 | Raptjre |
| 15:22.13 | Technobliterator | oh, right. I'll wait a little then |
| 15:22.25 | Imperios2 | Technobliterator: True, maybe each human province has its own school of magic? |
| 15:22.47 | Technobliterator | That's what I had in mind, yeah |
| 15:22.48 | Cyrannian|Busy | Monet_: Indeed |
| 15:22.54 | Imperios2 | Granted, most Imperial human mages study in Saphronian academies |
| 15:23.15 | Imperios2 | And Saphronia is fairly cold so... ice magic perhaps? |
| 15:23.21 | Technobliterator | say, cyrannian, do you want to be involved in the Cleansing Flames War? though I imagine there will be crossovers with the Gigaquadrant Conflicts given how things are going |
| 15:23.22 | Imperios2 | Actually |
| 15:23.22 | Monet_ | Cyrannian|Busy: Then I wouldn't mind a penthouse so long as I get a private guard to boot |
| 15:23.38 | Technobliterator | yup imp, that sounds good to me |
| 15:23.39 | Imperios2 | Space Russians using ice magic |
| 15:23.44 | Imperios2 | Nah way too stereotypical |
| 15:24.13 | Technobliterator | why not |
| 15:26.09 | Technobliterator | Monet_: "Or in the case of DE:Human Revolution; hide and keep shooting until the boss falls over." |
| 15:26.17 | Technobliterator | please no, DE:HR had the worst bosses in history |
| 15:26.22 | Imperios2 | I have two human mages so far |
| 15:26.27 | Technobliterator | that was the only thing I didn't like about the game |
| 15:26.39 | Imperios2 | And five mages in general |
| 15:26.44 | Monet_ | Is this supporting or opposing my comment? |
| 15:27.05 | Technobliterator | well |
| 15:27.17 | Imperios2 | Valdemar, Lekren, Latar, Praetinnath and Javina's gf |
| 15:27.23 | Technobliterator | opposing |
| 15:27.27 | Technobliterator | because DE:HR's bosses sucked |
| 15:27.34 | Technobliterator | and I don't want any of those in fiction |
| 15:28.00 | Technobliterator | hurr ill hide from a boss that can kill me in 2 hits and run and gun thatd be fun right |
| 15:29.11 | Monet_ | Can I get feedback on my story? I gave people Edoshai getting put in his place |
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| 15:29.25 | Imperios2 | It's cool |
| 15:30.42 | Chantal71 | Hi. |
| 15:31.02 | Monet_ | Also it seems to be rare to portray Uriel giving orders to people. |
| 15:31.37 | Monet_ | It happens, but the presentation in the story feel to me like a side we don't see much |
| 15:31.49 | Xho | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320153100/spore/images/9/98/TantMSantorakhTeaParty.png Made a pic for the Insomnia arc |
| 15:32.32 | OluapPlayer | He looks so cheerful |
| 15:32.35 | OluapPlayer | That's going to the synopsis |
| 15:33.27 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/LJKDofp.gif |
| 15:35.32 | drom | http://imgur.com/gallery/KaontN6 |
| 15:36.00 | Xho | hur |
| 15:36.25 | Imperios2 | OluapPlayer: http://2ch.hk/ololo/vg_1.gif |
| 15:36.47 | Xho | geezush |
| 15:37.44 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 15:40.27 | drom | http://imgur.com/gallery/iJD8f |
| 15:50.20 | Cyrannian|Busy | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110825180918/spore/images/2/29/AontasURC.png - I'm remaking these guys |
| 15:50.29 | Xho | dat face |
| 15:52.16 | Imperios2 | Cyrannian|Busy: I look forward to see the new appearance of the glorious builders of our bright communistic future, comrade Cyrannian |
| 15:53.08 | Cyrannian|Busy | lol |
| 15:53.24 | Jepardi | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a5d5bAV_460sa.gif |
| 15:53.38 | Imperios2 | *to seeing |
| 15:55.19 | drom | I think I should go and build up a typical Naakjian city. |
| 16:04.55 | Chantal71 | ... |
| 16:05.23 | Xho | such gammon chat |
| 16:05.29 | Xho | Oh great now they've got me saying it |
| 16:05.55 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tantummodo_Mortem/Synopsis dere |
| 16:06.14 | Xho | gud gud |
| 16:06.24 | Xho | u get desert nao |
| 16:06.40 | OluapPlayer | yey |
| 16:07.01 | OluapPlayer | Hell we're on the 8th arc already counting the prologue |
| 16:07.04 | OluapPlayer | Tantum long as fuk |
| 16:08.00 | Xho | Yeah |
| 16:08.05 | Xho | I think we're over the half way mark |
| 16:08.16 | Xho | Can't really remember |
| 16:08.33 | OluapPlayer | We are |
| 16:08.42 | OluapPlayer | The Insomnia arc was half way |
| 16:10.33 | Imperios2 | How many arcs are left? |
| 16:10.45 | Xho | Four planned |
| 16:10.49 | Xho | I think |
| 16:11.05 | Imperios2 | Could I shove one at some point? I wish to clear my name |
| 16:11.10 | drom | Urgh, I think I hate too much food for dinner. |
| 16:11.13 | Technobliterator | no |
| 16:11.16 | Technobliterator | because last time you did that |
| 16:11.19 | Xho | Imperios2: We'll talk about it |
| 16:11.20 | Technobliterator | you slowed it for 3 months |
| 16:11.31 | Imperios2 | ... |
| 16:11.32 | Imperios2 | ... |
| 16:11.39 | Xho | I'd encourage more users to suggest arcs in Tantum so we get more variety on who's writing what |
| 16:11.41 | Technobliterator | I haven't shoved an arc on for that exact reason, I don't want to slow anything |
| 16:11.44 | Imperios2 | I HAD REASONS FOR THAT |
| 16:11.52 | Imperios2 | DON'T REMIND ME OF IT |
| 16:11.59 | Technobliterator | I don't care, it doesn't change what happened |
| 16:11.59 | Monet_ | Calm down |
| 16:12.02 | Imperios2 | I KNOW I FAILED YOU |
| 16:12.18 | Technobliterator | so don't fail us again? |
| 16:12.24 | Imperios2 | I feel like shit now |
| 16:12.37 | Imperios2 | Okai |
| 16:12.55 | Monet_ | Imperios' arc failed because he was during it during his exam period and you are all shouting at him for it. |
| 16:13.15 | drom | exam periods can be a bitch |
| 16:13.16 | Monet_ | Can we please stop mentioning this incident? |
| 16:13.17 | Technobliterator | ? |
| 16:13.22 | Technobliterator | I am the only one shouting at him for it |
| 16:13.46 | Technobliterator | and if that is the case then, valid though that reason is, don't make an arc during an exam period |
| 16:14.01 | drom | What if the period was unforseen? |
| 16:14.04 | Imperios2 | *sigh* I know my fiction sucks, I can't make it better, I'm a failure |
| 16:14.08 | Imperios2 | I'm a failure |
| 16:14.14 | OluapPlayer | Stop saying that |
| 16:14.36 | Imperios2 | Well Jo does seem to think so |
| 16:14.48 | Monet_ | Well maybe if people were a little more RESPONSIVE about his work, he might not get these spells |
| 16:15.14 | Xho | Fair enough |
| 16:15.17 | drom | I also recommend Chrome |
| 16:15.18 | Xho | Either way |
| 16:15.23 | Xho | Imperios2: Talk to me about this arc |
| 16:15.49 | Imperios2 | It was just a thought, I'll think of it once I am free |
| 16:15.59 | Xho | bah I thought you had a full on idea |
| 16:16.04 | Xho | fine den |
| 16:16.50 | Technobliterator | [16:14] <Imperios2> Well Jo does seem to think so |
| 16:16.52 | Technobliterator | I don't? |
| 16:17.09 | Technobliterator | At not one point did I say you were a failure, your fiction sucks, nor that you could not improve it |
| 16:17.11 | Technobliterator | it is not even bad |
| 16:17.15 | Technobliterator | I actually enjoy reading it |
| 16:17.36 | Technobliterator | you just slowed down the fiction for 3 months, which is the sole reason people are upset about it anyway |
| 16:17.42 | Imperios2 | That's good to hear but you just implied I cannot make an RP arc without slowing it down horrendously |
| 16:17.54 | Technobliterator | no I did not |
| 16:18.01 | Imperios2 | You did |
| 16:18.07 | Technobliterator | I said that you slowed it down last time and I wasn't for the idea of slowing it down again |
| 16:18.11 | Imperios2 | You asked if I could add an arc |
| 16:18.27 | Monet_ | I'm serious here I keep seeing people get spells of depression, or they beat themselves up, or they feel miserable because they get not a single word of feeback from several hours' work. |
| 16:18.33 | Imperios2 | Exactly and you claimed I would slow it down again |
| 16:18.48 | Monet_ | Or at best, get about five words if they're lucky. |
| 16:19.12 | Technobliterator | did I claim you would slow it down again? |
| 16:19.13 | Technobliterator | no |
| 16:19.22 | Technobliterator | did I claim I would not trust you to not slow it down again? |
| 16:19.22 | Technobliterator | yes |
| 16:19.33 | Imperios2 | Exactly |
| 16:19.33 | Technobliterator | did I claim that my word was final? no |
| 16:19.35 | Chantal71 | I will be joining the SporeWiki Fiction Universe soon. |
| 16:19.37 | Technobliterator | because xho's word is fine |
| 16:19.40 | Technobliterator | final* |
| 16:19.44 | Imperios2 | I lost trust which is why I would like to regain it |
| 16:19.44 | Xho | My word's always final |
| 16:19.46 | Xho | Except when it isn't |
| 16:19.48 | Xho | Then it's not |
| 16:19.48 | Imperios2 | You do not trust me |
| 16:20.04 | Technobliterator | I don't, no |
| 16:20.32 | Imperios2 | Exactly and I seek to regain your trust |
| 16:21.04 | Technobliterator | I don't want new arcs added in general |
| 16:21.12 | Technobliterator | pretty much everyone wants to end this fiction without rushing it |
| 16:22.04 | Imperios2 | I need to clear my name |
| 16:24.52 | Imperios2 | Somehow |
| 16:25.02 | Imperios2 | Making a small arc would work just fine |
| 16:25.14 | Imperios2 | Maybe in collaboration with one of you |
| 16:25.27 | Technobliterator | you could join the Cleansing Flames war |
| 16:25.28 | OluapPlayer | shirtless plot ssss |
| 16:25.36 | Technobliterator | but then again I want everyone to join that xD |
| 16:25.55 | Xho | Everyone |
| 16:26.00 | Xho | I'm thinking of something here |
| 16:26.18 | Technobliterator | listens |
| 16:26.27 | Xho | I'm thinking whether the War of Ages, Second Coming and Tantum should be put under a larger page for the whole Xhodocto-related arc |
| 16:26.43 | Cyrannian|Busy | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320162606/spore/images/2/29/AontasURC.png - c |
| 16:26.44 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 16:26.46 | Technobliterator | go for it |
| 16:26.50 | OluapPlayer | That sounds good |
| 16:26.51 | Technobliterator | want me to make a navbox? |
| 16:26.59 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian|Busy: Looks friendly |
| 16:27.15 | Imperios2 | Technobliterator: Cleansing Flames isn't grand enough |
| 16:27.16 | Xho | Technobliterator: Please do |
| 16:27.39 | Imperios2 | And now that you said that you do not trust me I do not really want to join |
| 16:27.51 | Imperios2 | I want to mastermind something large like Tantum |
| 16:28.03 | Technobliterator | how is it not grand enough |
| 16:28.13 | Imperios2 | Cyrannian|Busy: Glorious |
| 16:28.23 | Imperios2 | Less users involved, less convolute |
| 16:28.39 | Monet_ | Cyrannian|Busy: I like the neck, looks very different to most reptiles on the wiki |
| 16:28.40 | Technobliterator | there are just as many involved in tantum as there are in the cleansing flames |
| 16:28.41 | Imperios2 | I'd like to prove that I can organise large RPs just fine |
| 16:29.10 | Technobliterator | convolute? I don't even get what you mean by less convolute |
| 16:29.12 | Cyrannian|Busy | Thanks! I pictured them as a cross between a snake and a T. rex. |
| 16:29.19 | Imperios2 | convoluted |
| 16:29.20 | Monet_ | I've come ot the conclusion that a grandiose story does not have ot have an army of users working on it |
| 16:29.36 | Imperios2 | Call it a matter of pride |
| 16:29.49 | Imperios2 | If people said that I will slow down an RP by making an arc again |
| 16:29.58 | Imperios2 | I will prove them otherwise |
| 16:29.58 | Technobliterator | no, but what do you mean convoluted? |
| 16:29.59 | OluapPlayer | It's certainly possible, the main plot is the Ice Age is made by me, Xho and hachi only |
| 16:30.15 | Technobliterator | coughandmecough |
| 16:30.25 | OluapPlayer | nu |
| 16:30.31 | Technobliterator | u dum i did stoof in it |
| 16:30.49 | Technobliterator | [16:29] <Imperios2> If people said that I will slow down an RP by making an arc again |
| 16:30.51 | OluapPlayer | You did but you're not in Vekaron's team hur |
| 16:30.51 | Technobliterator | no one suggested that |
| 16:30.57 | Imperios2 | Oluap did |
| 16:31.01 | Imperios2 | You did |
| 16:31.02 | Technobliterator | you just slowed the plot, not the rps |
| 16:31.15 | Imperios2 | Well the plot then |
| 16:31.23 | Technobliterator | and again |
| 16:31.32 | Technobliterator | what do you mean when you say it is less convoluted anyway |
| 16:31.37 | Imperios2 | I want to prove that I can organise large RPs just fine |
| 16:31.42 | Imperios2 | Less intricate |
| 16:31.46 | Imperios2 | Less planning needed |
| 16:31.51 | Technobliterator | ? |
| 16:31.54 | Xho | I think this is a good time to say |
| 16:31.54 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 16:31.55 | Technobliterator | no it's not |
| 16:32.01 | Xho | Shut up for this goes up in flames |
| 16:32.04 | Xho | *before |
| 16:32.16 | Technobliterator | this is not going in flames |
| 16:32.24 | Monet_ | We might be at the flashpoint already. |
| 16:32.27 | Imperios2 | If I wanted to add some Cleansing War stuff |
| 16:32.31 | Imperios2 | I'd say that |
| 16:32.40 | Imperios2 | Right now I do not |
| 16:33.20 | Chantal71 | ... |
| 16:33.45 | Technobliterator | I am not saying that you have to do anything |
| 16:33.48 | Imperios2 | I'd rather make something for Tantum to compensate for my failure and to clead mg name |
| 16:33.51 | Imperios2 | *my |
| 16:33.53 | Technobliterator | I am just asking what makes you think it is so small |
| 16:34.02 | Imperios2 | It has only begun |
| 16:34.08 | Imperios2 | Ergo it is not that major |
| 16:34.13 | Imperios2 | Yet |
| 16:34.13 | Technobliterator | okay, there is your valid reason |
| 16:34.15 | Technobliterator | you're free to go |
| 16:34.43 | Monet_ | http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Peanut-Butter-and-Jelly-Time-Family-Guy.gif |
| 16:34.53 | Imperios2 | So, you understand now? I'll make an arc at summer if I have ideas |
| 16:35.08 | Technobliterator | arc of what? |
| 16:35.13 | Imperios2 | Tantum |
| 16:35.15 | OluapPlayer | Peanut butter jelly |
| 16:35.18 | Technobliterator | oh. uh sure |
| 16:35.19 | OluapPlayer | i've not heard that one in ages |
| 16:35.54 | Imperios2 | Seriously whenever I mentioned that arc people ssid "OH IT IS SLOW" |
| 16:36.11 | Imperios2 | That needs to be changed |
| 16:36.24 | Imperios2 | We could remake my old arc or start a new one |
| 16:36.30 | drom | Hm. |
| 16:36.31 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/cdrlMga.png |
| 16:37.34 | Cyrannian|Busy | Very impressive |
| 16:37.39 | Imperios2 | My name has been *associated* with slowness and I do not like that |
| 16:37.40 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Santorakh - TIME TO JELLY UP |
| 16:37.47 | OluapPlayer | ew |
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| 16:41.40 | Imperios | *sigh* sorry for being all moody |
| 16:41.49 | Technobliterator | it's fine |
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| 16:42.58 | Zmr56 | Hi there |
| 16:43.15 | drom | How about this? http://i.imgur.com/KHzusFV.png |
| 16:44.10 | Zmr56 | That looks sinister and harsh |
| 16:44.24 | Imperios | I find it hard to cope with my angst at time |
| 16:44.48 | Imperios | Hope you understand |
| 16:45.02 | drom | Or dat edition? http://i.imgur.com/q9TdrIU.png |
| 16:45.20 | Monet_ | Imperios: I wouldn't say its you |
| 16:45.27 | drom | Or those? http://i.imgur.com/QaL60UT.png and http://i.imgur.com/luYD6FV.png |
| 16:45.40 | Monet_ | This wiki fels like a popularity contest at times |
| 16:46.08 | drom | Indeed. |
| 16:46.24 | drom | That makes me feel, a bit uncomfortable here. |
| 16:46.49 | Zmr56 | I like the first one |
| 16:47.23 | Zmr56 | You can see the city clearly and it still has the nice fog effect |
| 16:47.23 | Xho | It is a massive popularity contest |
| 16:47.42 | Xho | Always been like that |
| 16:47.57 | Technobliterator | + |
| 16:48.17 | Technobliterator | I just don't really care about competition personally |
| 16:48.48 | OluapPlayer | Why can't we just join hands |
| 16:48.50 | OluapPlayer | and cuddle |
| 16:48.58 | Xho | Because I don't have any hands that's why |
| 16:49.04 | Technobliterator | you have feminine hands |
| 16:49.04 | Xho | Disregard the fact that I can type |
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| 16:50.21 | drom | What's the difference between female and male hands? |
| 16:50.29 | Zmr56 | The only thing I care about is that I contribute to the wiki :P |
| 16:50.59 | Zmr56 | Male hands are usually bigger I think most of the time |
| 16:51.03 | Zmr56 | Maybe not |
| 16:51.07 | Zmr56 | I dunno |
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| 16:51.12 | Sporeraptor | hi |
| 16:51.15 | Zmr56 | Hi |
| 16:51.19 | Imperios2 | Xho's hands are smaller then |
| 16:51.31 | Xho | My hands are quite large actually |
| 16:51.40 | Xho | Proportionate but not large large |
| 16:51.47 | Xho | Fuck I'll just say proportionate |
| 16:53.01 | drom | I thought: Female hands = sleeker and fingers that ain't straight. Male hands = fattys with fat and straight grubs as fingers. |
| 16:53.44 | Xho | Well |
| 16:53.50 | Imperios2 | Mine are proportionate |
| 16:53.52 | Xho | My fingers are sleek and straight |
| 16:54.07 | Xho | Wait why are we on about my hands anyway |
| 16:54.15 | Xho | Get back to the wiki being a popularity contest |
| 16:54.47 | Imperios2 | Xho: Hm |
| 16:54.58 | Imperios2 | Remember when you said you had to shave daily? |
| 16:55.14 | Xho | Yeah |
| 16:55.18 | Xho | I don't actually shave daily though |
| 16:55.34 | Xho | Once a week, I just let the hair grow until I get bored with it |
| 16:55.43 | Imperios2 | Huh |
| 16:55.48 | Monet_ | This one-upmanship has to be curbed |
| 16:55.48 | Imperios2 | Wait so do I |
| 16:56.07 | Monet_ | ompetition is nice but I'm getting tired of the feeling that I have ot compete for responses |
| 16:56.10 | Xho | Mine's virtually a thin beard after a week though so probably closer to 4 days than a week |
| 16:56.13 | Technobliterator | no it doesn't |
| 16:56.24 | Technobliterator | competition between fictions can only make them improve |
| 16:56.30 | drom | Monet_: I second. |
| 16:56.33 | Xho | Technobliterator: We're on about competition from users |
| 16:56.36 | Imperios2 | I have a smallish beard |
| 16:56.46 | Technobliterator | yes, and it can only make the fictions better |
| 16:56.51 | Imperios2 | It's ufly really |
| 16:57.05 | Imperios2 | Not even a beard but a bunch of hairs protruding from below my chin |
| 16:57.08 | Imperios2 | I shave it |
| 16:57.26 | Xho | I think Monet's on about the idea that users compete and creates a lot of divided attention on the wiki |
| 16:57.29 | Monet_ | Technobliterator: A fiction built on competetiveness = Xho's stuff in a nutshel. |
| 16:57.32 | drom | I also got beard growing, but it's not fully developed so it looks ugly. I shave it 2-4 times a month. |
| 16:58.06 | drom | I should grow bread instead. |
| 16:58.09 | Xho | I'm usually clean shaven |
| 16:58.13 | Technobliterator | [16:57] <Xho> I think Monet's on about the idea that users compete and creates a lot of divided attention on the wiki |
| 16:58.16 | Technobliterator | that is inevitable |
| 16:58.20 | Monet_ | And getting feedback and opinion is how art improves. |
| 16:58.33 | Technobliterator | that is not the only way |
| 16:58.37 | Zmr56 | I have to shave my moustache every week or few days |
| 16:58.47 | Technobliterator | the other way is competition. you have no reason to improve if there are no others to beat |
| 16:58.58 | Xho | My fiction can do with a lot of improving still |
| 16:59.00 | Technobliterator | and anyway, I don't compete with anyone, I just make stuff and hope people like it |
| 16:59.04 | Xho | It's only perfect when there is nothing else to do |
| 16:59.14 | Xho | And I have a lot of other things in which I could do before saying "Okay I'm done" |
| 16:59.40 | drom | I always shave away my mustache and let the sideburns growing. |
| 16:59.43 | Xho | Most of my fiction is still stuck in the same arc as it has been for 5 years |
| 17:00.11 | Xho | Granted it's a huge-as-fuck-arc but it's only one theme which I have explored through |
| 17:00.11 | Monet_ | Competition is one thing, engaging in a dickwaving contest is something diferent entirely. |
| 17:00.49 | Monet_ | The latter is what seems prevalent right now - bigger ships, bigger empires, stronger supersoldiers |
| 17:00.58 | Monet_ | More powerful essence beings |
| 17:01.00 | Imperios2 | Empires need to be unique |
| 17:01.10 | Imperios2 | Not more powerful than each other |
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| 17:01.54 | Xho | Most of my fiction originates and still connects to divine intervention so all of it is going to be grandiose in scope |
| 17:01.58 | drom | When I was in my school, I got the thought of an small and weak empire with technology under tier 4, which gets crushed by USO's threads. |
| 17:02.00 | Imperios2 | I shave when I visit people whom I actually care about |
| 17:02.09 | Imperios2 | Usually this happens once a week |
| 17:02.10 | dino__ | hello |
| 17:02.13 | drom | Hey |
| 17:02.31 | Sporeraptor | hi |
| 17:02.49 | Imperios2 | You know all this shitposting of mine gave me an idea for a story |
| 17:03.02 | Imperios2 | Well a sidestory |
| 17:03.10 | drom | Interesting. |
| 17:03.22 | Imperios2 | For Ice Age and/or Cleansing Flames |
| 17:03.30 | Imperios2 | That would later move into Andromeda |
| 17:03.38 | Cyrannian|Busy | Dino! |
| 17:03.39 | OluapPlayer | wut dis |
| 17:03.48 | Imperios2 | Remember EvilLemmo? |
| 17:04.15 | dino__ | how is all doing! |
| 17:04.17 | Imperios2 | I hinted that he might have been teleported into the Primeverse |
| 17:04.31 | Xho | All I am going to say is as long as my stuff exists and is able to interact comfortably with the rest of the wikiverse |
| 17:04.33 | Xho | Which it is |
| 17:04.59 | Imperios2 | He could try forging a Serpent's Head division in Borealis |
| 17:05.12 | Xho | Then I have no intention to tone anything down |
| 17:05.19 | OluapPlayer | I don't want anything to do with the mirror universe in my fiction |
| 17:05.30 | Imperios2 | Well fuk u |
| 17:05.39 | Xho | Because I don't need to, even my seemingly invincible things are a tangible threat |
| 17:05.41 | dino__ | Oh Andromeda Front is going to start? |
| 17:05.44 | Imperios2 | Lemmo would fight with him |
| 17:05.56 | OluapPlayer | Do taht in Adnromeda hur |
| 17:06.08 | Imperios2 | fuk u woman |
| 17:06.13 | Monet_ | Grandiose, fine |
| 17:06.15 | Imperios2 | punches Technobliterator |
| 17:06.19 | Technobliterator | [17:02] <drom> When I was in my school, I got the thought of an small and weak empire with technology under tier 4, which gets crushed by USO's threads. |
| 17:06.23 | Technobliterator | don't worry about that |
| 17:06.24 | Imperios2 | What about Ottzello sector? |
| 17:06.36 | Technobliterator | USO are only OP for story reasons |
| 17:06.40 | Monet_ | Competing to see who's starship is the longest in kilometres? The n Iquestion |
| 17:06.44 | Technobliterator | Imperios2: urm, I don't have a problem with it at all |
| 17:06.56 | Imperios2 | Actually |
| 17:07.01 | Monet_ | A galleon may have a fuckton of guns and practically blow everything out of the water, but it can hardly move |
| 17:07.11 | Monet_ | A galleon basically gets outrun by everything else |
| 17:07.19 | Xho | I don't ever recall competing for spaceship lengths but alright okay |
| 17:07.29 | Technobliterator | if it means you end up joing cleansing flames, it's good to me :P |
| 17:07.58 | OluapPlayer | Ottzello is Jo's so if she is okay with it then go ahead |
| 17:08.05 | OluapPlayer | But no mirrorverse on the rest of Borealis |
| 17:08.12 | Cyrannian|Busy | I don't use the tier system anymore since I think it has turned into a game of one-upmanship. Story is more important in my opinion. |
| 17:08.18 | Monet_ | Xho: You said you remade Kicath ships to be bigger because you thought they were small compared ot other tier 2 ships |
| 17:08.24 | Xho | Well they were |
| 17:08.27 | Imperios2 | Cyrannian|Busy: I agree |
| 17:08.38 | Monet_ | Xho: My point exactly |
| 17:08.55 | Monet_ | Rambo Nation is tier 1 and had hardly any starship bigger thana kilometre |
| 17:08.57 | dino__ | Oh is Uriel geettign the Shelliowu Emperor assinated? |
| 17:09.11 | Xho | Right right I get it now |
| 17:09.17 | dino__ | @Monet: That is true! |
| 17:09.39 | Imperios2 | Wait |
| 17:09.43 | Xho | Eh but still for the sake of artistry larger ships sound more appealing when written down |
| 17:09.43 | dino__ | The largest ones are the dreadnougth (relative new) are over 1 km, the others liek excelsior are the most powerful but are 525 meters long (refit only) |
| 17:09.46 | Technobliterator | The tier system is fine to put things into perspective |
| 17:09.48 | Imperios2 | Since when it is Tier 1 on itself |
| 17:09.54 | Technobliterator | I'm only making USO strong for the story |
| 17:10.03 | Imperios2 | *in |
| 17:10.09 | Xho | Artistry I use in a very loose term |
| 17:11.08 | OluapPlayer | This all makes me glad my fiction is character-based and not empire-based |
| 17:11.14 | OluapPlayer | My empires are just background for my characters |
| 17:11.39 | Monet_ | If anything I imagine starships would actually get smaller further up the tier scale |
| 17:11.57 | Monet_ | More efficient engines, more efficient fuel consumption, more efficient reactors = less space required for everything |
| 17:12.29 | Monet_ | Sore tier 2s and ones CAN build bigger, but that doesn't mean they HAVE to |
| 17:12.37 | drom | Aye, but they can still keep the size to increase their stats. |
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| 17:14.21 | Zmr56 | Hi |
| 17:17.40 | Technobliterator | meh, I focus way more on characters |
| 17:17.53 | Technobliterator | which is why to me how powerful USO is is irrelevant |
| 17:18.01 | Technobliterator | anyway, the conversation made me work on USO technology |
| 17:18.12 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ultimate_Sovereignty_of_Ottzello#Chronotech enjoy this half assed written work |
| 17:19.16 | Monet_ | Right, this "dickwaving contest" thing is oging on my blog |
| 17:20.25 | Xho | I wouldn't call it a dickwaving contest though |
| 17:20.31 | Xho | That is risking insulting users |
| 17:20.45 | Xho | Technobliterator: http://www.loler.me/storage/4/1353240030.jpg |
| 17:20.49 | Zmr56 | Techno: I like this Chronotech, it sounds powerful |
| 17:20.59 | Xho | I came up with some really nice chord progression on guitar |
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| 17:21.11 | Technobliterator | lmao! :D |
| 17:21.18 | Technobliterator | ah, thanks Zmr ^^ |
| 17:21.19 | Xho | I think it was F#m -> Bm -> G -> E -> Em6add9 -> Bmaj7sus2 - > Bm |
| 17:21.24 | Monet_ | Xho: I'll call it something else |
| 17:21.39 | Xho | I mean my fiction is the original dickwaving thing I'll admit |
| 17:22.06 | Xho | But for the sake of how the fiction universe has developed it's been good for it |
| 17:22.37 | Technobliterator | it was my fault, not yours |
| 17:22.40 | Technobliterator | I created the Taldar after all |
| 17:22.50 | Xho | Let's not play the blame game here |
| 17:23.05 | OluapPlayer | I win at dickwaving tho |
| 17:23.05 | OluapPlayer | cus Gorf |
| 17:23.06 | Technobliterator | well I'm self-blaming |
| 17:23.08 | OluapPlayer | can't best dis |
| 17:24.10 | Technobliterator | "Also, Chantal71 is wondering how to get out of source code mode on this wiki's editing pages, should it be possible. Help would be much appreciated." |
| 17:24.12 | Technobliterator | ._. |
| 17:24.33 | Technobliterator | there is a way to edit that doesn't use source code? |
| 17:25.35 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:OluapPlayer/Sandbox#Never_Enough_Tails I made a list of Dark Souls-style weapons cus bored |
| 17:25.36 | OluapPlayer | imagine your fantasy chars getting their hands on any of these |
| 17:26.03 | Monet_ | This conversation has me worked up so i'm taking a break for now |
| 17:26.33 | Xho | Void Dragon's Greatsword would be a Darkstone weapon amirite |
| 17:26.35 | drom | The Naakji is going to have fun to destroy computers endlessly. |
| 17:26.40 | Technobliterator | I thought the days of drama on this wiki were over |
| 17:27.02 | OluapPlayer | Probably |
| 17:27.08 | OluapPlayer | dunno what chimeras are made of hur |
| 17:28.23 | Technobliterator | well, I hope the drama stops again |
| 17:28.52 | Xho | Chimeras are usually made of Darkstone |
| 17:29.15 | Xho | Although usually the spirit holding their body together is generally weaker than that of normal denizens so they're easier to kill |
| 17:29.15 | OluapPlayer | Stop talking about it and it'll end |
| 17:29.21 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 17:29.23 | Technobliterator | probabl |
| 17:29.25 | Technobliterator | y |
| 17:29.27 | OluapPlayer | aka shup |
| 17:29.41 | Technobliterator | u shup |
| 17:29.44 | Technobliterator | dumbo |
| 17:29.57 | OluapPlayer | ya dads dumbo |
| 17:30.12 | Technobliterator | sos ya dads dad |
| 17:30.17 | drom | ya mums cows |
| 17:30.59 | OluapPlayer | Still a greatsword made out of Atrocius' tail would probably look really scary |
| 17:31.09 | OluapPlayer | So would someone running around using Xacutus' tail as a spear |
| 17:31.10 | Xho | Kinmo - fuk stahp dis shi |
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| 17:36.27 | Xho | Wel |
| 17:36.56 | OluapPlayer | ur a wel |
| 17:37.00 | Xho | Just got shared a news article online about someone I went to school with for being jailed for sexually assaulting someone |
| 17:37.10 | Xho | No wonder I'm slightly screwed in the head |
| 17:37.17 | OluapPlayer | Yickes |
| 17:38.30 | Xho | By the looks of it, sexually assaulting a child |
| 17:38.42 | Jepardi | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/amXR8jV_460s_v1.jpg |
| 17:38.43 | drom | You talked with him? |
| 17:38.51 | drom | btw, oc http://i.imgur.com/lCjC9Na.png |
| 17:38.52 | OluapPlayer | Heugh |
| 17:39.00 | Imperios_ | Jepardi: YOU ARE NOT PREPARED |
| 17:39.05 | Chantal71 | Hi again. I replied a few minutes ago. |
| 17:39.14 | Xho | So now that makes someone I know whose dad murdered his mother, someone jailed for assault, someone jailed for sexual assault, someone who has died of a drug overdose, someone jailed for robbery |
| 17:39.15 | drom | Hello |
| 17:39.20 | Xho | I have a rich life |
| 17:39.44 | drom | Sounds kinda sadistic imo |
| 17:43.20 | dino__ | hello |
| 17:43.44 | Imperios_ | Monet: http://cs424529.vk.me/v424529877/7171/xn3zxMDSXtQ.jpg Alyona showed me this |
| 17:43.49 | Imperios_ | How am I supposed to ract |
| 17:44.25 | Xho | rejected hur |
| 17:44.27 | OluapPlayer | You run away it seems |
| 17:44.52 | MonetSemi | That. Is creeoy |
| 17:44.56 | drom | How long is the highest building in the fictionverse? |
| 17:46.17 | Xho | Drom: Dunno hur |
| 17:46.47 | Xho | The tower of the Aknatazán family is around 14,800ft tall |
| 17:47.21 | MonetSemi | Theoretically, a space elevator can be much, much taller |
| 17:47.25 | drom | Urgh, non-metric system |
| 17:47.30 | MonetSemi | And still count as a building |
| 17:47.38 | Xho | Drom: 4511m |
| 17:47.46 | drom | Thanks |
| 17:47.47 | Xho | That too |
| 17:48.01 | Xho | There's probably no telling what the real tallest building is in the Gigaquadrant |
| 17:48.20 | Xho | The Aknatazán tower is definitely not the tallest tower |
| 17:50.29 | Xho | Right time to go |
| 17:50.33 | dino__ | bye Xho |
| 17:50.41 | drom | And the tallest building (not counting space elevators) on Earth I know in my games is the Citadel from HL2. |
| 17:50.56 | drom | And if you count the space elevators, I say Halo. |
| 17:52.16 | Cyrannian|Busy | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121026071941/starwars/images/a/a9/Imperial_Citadel.png - Speaking of ridiculously tall buildings, I might redesign the Imperial Palace on Orbspira to look like this. |
| 17:53.20 | Zmr56 | I hope you keep it white and brightly coloured |
| 17:53.32 | Zmr56 | I don't think black would suite |
| 17:53.52 | Cyrannian|Busy | No, I'll keep it so it'll mix into the skyline quite well. |
| 17:54.05 | Cyrannian|Busy | As in the generic Orbispira-colours |
| 17:54.06 | drom | My confederation's tallest non-space building is the citadel of Aailli. |
| 17:54.28 | drom | Not counting ground level |
| 17:54.35 | OluapPlayer | http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/meh.ro11590-455x900.jpg |
| 17:54.54 | Zmr56 | My tallest building is definitely not a government related place |
| 17:55.33 | Angrybirds | Cyrannian|Busy : Finished an overhaul of the French Cyrannian page. Can I add the FCC as an Imperial protectorate to the CyraEmp's page? |
| 17:55.50 | drom | Not every tall buildings are fully used for government purposes. |
| 17:55.54 | Cyrannian|Busy | Angrybirds: Of course, go ahead |
| 17:56.15 | Zmr56 | I guess mine might be a Spaceport |
| 17:56.20 | Angrybirds | Danke. I'll post to you the changes and the plot points involving you when you're not busy. |
| 17:56.35 | Cyrannian|Busy | Cool, I'll let you know |
| 17:56.40 | drom | The Aaillian citadel is used by many. But only top of it is occupied by planetary defenses and the Council. |
| 17:59.48 | drom | All glory to the Empire! |
| 18:00.13 | Zmr_Civ | Screw the Empire and State kill em both |
| 18:00.34 | Zmr_Civ | I just pick on the State because the Empire is too tough |
| 18:01.38 | drom | They are the terrorists anyway, you count as them too. hurr |
| 18:01.50 | Cyrannian|Busy | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320175950/spore/images/7/74/TarKuuraen.png - A district on the ecumenopolis of Tar Kuuraen. |
| 18:01.53 | Zmr_Civ | Although I may consider some Empire espionage stories to break away from all the war stuff |
| 18:02.15 | OluapPlayer | https://31.media.tumblr.com/f422de289664b614d345acf93c228121/tumblr_n17v7ghWOt1smq5y5o1_250.gif FUCK |
| 18:02.20 | Zmr_Civ | I like the brown/red colour scheme |
| 18:02.40 | Zmr_Civ | Oluap: I saw that before |
| 18:03.06 | drom | I prefer one of Cyrannian's masterpieces. http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320151710/spore/images/6/68/TarKuuraen01.png |
| 18:03.21 | Zmr_Civ | ^ |
| 18:03.56 | Cyrannian|Busy | http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320180301/spore/images/f/fa/TarKuuraen02.png - Danke, here's another one. |
| 18:04.14 | Zmr_Civ | I like that one too |
| 18:04.21 | drom | *instant boner* |
| 18:04.34 | drom | Sorry, sorry. I'll go. |
| 18:05.43 | drom | This is a favorite from my unofficial works. http://i.imgur.com/c8847ZE.png |
| 18:06.10 | drom | The reason that it's unofficial is, the buildings are missaligned. |
| 18:06.20 | Cyrannian|Busy | Wow, it looks very cool |
| 18:06.31 | Technobliterator | bbl |
| 18:08.27 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/lKgv29c.png |
| 18:08.59 | Zmr_Civ | My screenshots suck, mainly because I don't use special effects |
| 18:09.07 | Zmr_Civ | I like that onew |
| 18:09.20 | Imperios_ | Cyrannian|Busy: Nar Shadaa, eh? |
| 18:09.32 | Imperios_ | I hated it back in SWTOR, it was all cramped and shiny |
| 18:09.39 | Imperios_ | Dromund Kaas was my favourite world |
| 18:12.08 | Cyrannian|Busy | brb |
| 18:15.03 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/zIQRNYC.gif |
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| 18:17.04 | TekDroid | My sibling cannot seem to understand what a mol is. |
| 18:18.11 | Monet | I feel ill because of what happened earlier. |
| 18:18.14 | Imperios_ | That being said, your city looks cool |
| 18:18.20 | TekDroid | (Mol as in the Chemistry unit) |
| 18:19.52 | OluapPlayer | http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Dave/haveagiganticgroaneronme.png |
| 18:20.47 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/RjNfu74.gif woof |
| 18:35.43 | Imperios | Monet: Care to play GW2? |
| 18:36.14 | Monet | Not in too great a mood so idunno |
| 18:36.25 | Imperios | It might lighten you up, huh |
| 18:37.15 | Cyrannian|Busy | Imperios: I'm making a Dromund Kaas-like world as the headquarters of the Imperial Army & Intelligence. |
| 18:37.25 | Imperios | Woooooh |
| 18:37.44 | Imperios | Can I participate? I could make its governor or another figure of importance |
| 18:37.48 | Imperios | Hm |
| 18:37.54 | Imperios | Perhaps something like the Revanites Cult? |
| 18:38.07 | Cyrannian|Busy | Sure, I'd like that |
| 18:39.21 | Angrybirds | lol, the revanites. |
| 18:42.18 | OluapPlayer | Xho_Busy: git back here |
| 18:43.07 | Angrybirds | win |
| 18:43.09 | OluapPlayer | shit |
| 18:44.33 | Angrybirds | Cyrannian|Busy : Also, you list the French as neutral on the ESR's page. I thought they were staunch allies and cooperated very closely? |
| 18:44.43 | Angrybirds | (Despite their differences) |
| 18:45.09 | Monet | Aand he leaves as I publish this http://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/Request-Kithworto-441635836 |
| 18:47.22 | OluapPlayer | That looks terrifying |
| 18:47.31 | OluapPlayer | ina good way that is |
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| 18:49.24 | Imperios_ | I agree |
| 18:49.29 | Imperios_ | Monet: So, you coming or not? |
| 18:49.48 | Monet | I feel lik having a lie down |
| 18:49.51 | Monet | Sorry |
| 18:49.55 | Cyrannian|Busy | Angrybirds: I think they were staunch allies early in colonial history but drifted apart over the years. Of course, they still cooperate closely |
| 18:50.04 | Cyrannian|Busy | Monet: Impressive as always, Monet |
| 18:50.27 | Imperios_ | I see |
| 18:51.42 | Angrybirds | Cyrannian|Busy : I can absolutely see how that would happen in terms of political goals, with France taking a more realpolitik approach and the ESR striving for an ideal France deems impractical, but I can still see them agreeing to disagree and still maintaining close economic and military ties. |
| 18:52.24 | Angrybirds | It's been established too that France is close to the Fjord League politically, so it wouldn't be too out there for relations to at least be warm between France and the ESR. |
| 18:52.46 | Monet | I think i might be done with free pics for now. |
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| 18:52.57 | Monet | I'm in such a situation that I'd like to star doing paid work |
| 18:53.03 | Monet | start* |
| 18:53.35 | Imperios_ | Yeah you definitely should |
| 18:53.37 | Angrybirds | Your work is epic enough that it deserves compensation. :P |
| 18:53.41 | Imperios_ | Also I wonder if you could draw some of my stuff :P |
| 18:53.58 | Angrybirds | Same here, depending on the price. I'd gladly pay. |
| 18:54.41 | OluapPlayer | get pain' then |
| 18:54.44 | OluapPlayer | payin even |
| 18:55.17 | TekDroid | Lol, I just built a containment field in Space Engineers. :D |
| 18:55.19 | Angrydroid | Over here if you want to respond, Cyr |
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| 18:56.59 | Monet | SOmething lik what I just did, hmm might be looking at £25.40/42USD |
| 18:57.20 | OluapPlayer | Guess I ain't asking for pics anymore hur |
| 18:57.35 | TekDroid | Lol |
| 18:57.48 | TekDroid | Looks awesome though, Monet |
| 18:57.53 | Monet | I can do lineart for $25 |
| 18:58.13 | Monet | Or there's always friends' discount |
| 19:00.27 | Monet | As appealing as it is to customers to make something lik that for $10-$15, It jsut seems infeisable |
| 19:01.48 | OluapPlayer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBOJeJdQjk8 for the Skyrim players |
| 19:07.45 | drom | Behold! The true Vejlla! http://i.imgur.com/Gvu4A32.png |
| 19:11.59 | Cyrannian|Busy | Looks great drom! |
| 19:12.58 | Zmr_Civ | Oooh |
| 19:13.01 | Zmr_Civ | Very nice |
| 19:14.51 | drom | Tried another shot with the stylefilter on, but I accidentally pushed a button, so it's slightly different from the other one. |
| 19:14.52 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/lJQIlbS.png |
| 19:15.29 | drom | The Aaillian atmosphere makes it look grim and harsh, hur. |
| 19:16.10 | drom | Which should I go with? |
| 19:16.16 | drom | 1 or 2? |
| 19:16.52 | Zmr56 | 1 |
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| 19:18.41 | drom | And thanks for the compliments Cyrannian|Busy and Zmr56. Before I forget to thank ya all. |
| 19:24.02 | Cyrannian|Busy | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320192346/spore/images/7/74/Antemurale02.png - pew |
| 19:24.06 | Cyrannian|Busy | brb |
| 19:24.45 | MonetAway | Very spooky |
| 19:24.57 | MonetAway | Especially that lightining fork |
| 19:25.26 | OluapPlayer | thundur |
| 19:27.13 | OluapPlayer | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320192656/spore/images/5/56/Zombie_Billig.png have a fatty |
| 19:28.48 | dino__ | nice |
| 19:31.42 | Imperios_ | Cyrannian|Busy: Dromund Kaas in all its glory |
| 19:33.39 | Imperios_ | OluapPlayer: He has Vorius eyes hur |
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| 19:35.02 | Wormy | Hello |
| 19:35.04 | drom | Hey |
| 19:35.07 | OluapPlayer | He does yeah |
| 19:35.11 | Zmr56 | Hi |
| 19:35.12 | OluapPlayer | It's a coincidence though |
| 19:35.12 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 19:35.23 | Zmr56 | Billing looks darker than I expected |
| 19:35.43 | Zmr56 | I expected him to pale kinda like Pudge |
| 19:35.56 | Zmr56 | Still looks good though |
| 19:37.11 | OluapPlayer | Billig isn't a humanoid |
| 19:37.23 | drom | We need an alien pudge |
| 19:37.48 | MonetAway | All ill/dead things tend to go pale |
| 19:38.05 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 19:38.06 | OluapPlayer | Not Billig hur |
| 19:38.10 | Zmr56 | heh |
| 19:38.23 | drom | And. |
| 19:38.29 | drom | Billig = Cheap |
| 19:38.29 | Wormy | "Erissare's father was killed when he was eaten by a rare, carnivorous Dvottie" - I bet that's a reference to Killer Penguins. |
| 19:38.30 | OluapPlayer | When I think "rotten corpse" I think of dark colours |
| 19:38.31 | drom | In swedish |
| 19:39.21 | MonetAway | Corpses first go pale before darkening |
| 19:39.27 | drom | That's one of a cheap alein you got there, Oluap. |
| 19:39.30 | drom | alien* |
| 19:39.34 | MonetAway | Hair and scales lose coloration too |
| 19:39.42 | OluapPlayer | Billig isn't my character |
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| 19:40.01 | Tek0516Droid | Hello |
| 19:40.01 | MonetAway | But meh whatever, I don't feel like arguing. |
| 19:40.03 | MonetAway | No point |
| 19:40.16 | OluapPlayer | Well you answered your own question there |
| 19:40.27 | OluapPlayer | They go pale, then they go dark |
| 19:40.29 | OluapPlayer | Billig went dark already |
| 19:40.51 | MonetAway | Forget it |
| 19:41.07 | OluapPlayer | fine sorry |
| 19:41.27 | drom | Well. Science sometimes go too far here. |
| 19:45.31 | Cyrannian|Busy | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320194513/spore/images/7/7a/Antemurale01.png - c |
| 19:46.07 | OluapPlayer | That's really well done |
| 19:46.13 | Wormy | Sometimes when me, GD12 and Ghelae are online we start making new theoretical physics hur |
| 19:46.45 | Zmr56 | I love that purple sky |
| 19:46.52 | Wormy | That looks fantabulous Cyrannian |
| 19:46.57 | Zmr56 | It makes it look very menacing |
| 19:47.09 | Wormy | I use city-tiles as well |
| 19:47.20 | Zmr56 | City-tiles? |
| 19:47.30 | Cyrannian|Busy | Thanks my sweets |
| 19:48.20 | Wormy | top image http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110318235150/spore/images/6/66/DCP_Architecture.png |
| 19:48.27 | Wormy | I highly recommend it |
| 19:48.53 | Zmr56 | damn looks guude |
| 19:49.05 | Cyrannian|Busy | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131206184901/spore/images/1/1d/Orbiuralle.png - I also made this one a while ago |
| 19:49.19 | Wormy | Nice |
| 19:49.32 | Zmr56 | Very nice |
| 19:49.37 | Wormy | I'm not very good at positioning buildings, or indeed, making them, in Spore. |
| 19:50.06 | Wormy | I think you are perhaps one of the best here at that. |
| 19:51.15 | OluapPlayer | He needs to be good at something |
| 19:51.16 | OluapPlayer | :> |
| 19:51.52 | Wormy | He is especially good at making cute things |
| 19:51.56 | Angrybirds | So I think we've reached a compromise regarding the UN organization. My idea was that it was created at the end of the Colonial Wars to ensure that such conflicts would not happen again. What do we want to name it? |
| 19:51.57 | Cyrannian|Busy | I think you make great buildings Wormy, not to mention positioning them. Remember the Halcyon template? |
| 19:51.59 | Wormy | That will eat your faic |
| 19:52.13 | Wormy | I used city tiles for Halcyon :P |
| 19:52.19 | drom | I already posted it here as an imgur, but anyway... http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320192720/spore/images/e/e2/Vejlla001.png |
| 19:52.20 | Wormy | Thats why I use them |
| 19:52.30 | Imperios_ | Cyrannian|Busy: Do you want me to share my ideas about Antemurale? |
| 19:52.39 | Cyrannian|Busy | Sure Imp, go ahead |
| 19:52.59 | Cyrannian|Busy | I think dino__ is the master of making adventures and templates on the wiki |
| 19:53.04 | drom | Cyrannian|Busy: What's your next plans on the GC? |
| 19:53.44 | Imperios_ | What if back in the day it was a Rades embassy to the Oikoumene? They would build certian techno-organic defenses (which the Empire would use) and there could be a Revanite-ish cult devoted to studying the planet |
| 19:53.54 | Zmr56 | AB: Something Unitied... |
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| 19:54.23 | Technobliterator | hiya |
| 19:54.27 | OluapPlayer | dumba |
| 19:54.28 | Zmr56 | United Galactic Nations :P |
| 19:54.30 | Zmr56 | Hi |
| 19:54.34 | Technobliterator | ya dad |
| 19:54.40 | OluapPlayer | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320192656/spore/images/5/56/Zombie_Billig.png I did a thing |
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| 19:55.00 | Zmr56 | United Nations is a good name anyway |
| 19:55.04 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 19:55.15 | Technobliterator | oh, is that post-Insomnia billig? |
| 19:55.18 | OluapPlayer | Yeah |
| 19:55.27 | Cyrannian|Busy | drom: My plan for this week is to finish some pages such as the Imperial State as well as the new Outer Rim page. After that, I need to make a final part to the Dark Times and then I'll be free to start work on the Imperial War (though I still need a new name for that) |
| 19:55.28 | Technobliterator | oh wow, that's amazing :o |
| 19:55.31 | Technobliterator | thanks! |
| 19:55.35 | Technobliterator | can you add it to his page? |
| 19:55.36 | OluapPlayer | Glad you like it |
| 19:55.38 | Cyrannian|Busy | Imperios_: Sounds great |
| 19:55.41 | OluapPlayer | Yeah sure |
| 19:56.01 | Angrybirds | Suggestions so far were: Overterra, Panterra, Terran Republic (which would be odd given that it's an intergovernmental organization)... |
| 19:56.20 | drom | Cyrannian|Busy: I think you got me hyped. |
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| 19:56.59 | Angrybirds | Terran League? |
| 19:57.14 | Angrybirds | United Federation of Planets. :P |
| 19:57.18 | Angrybirds | Nah. |
| 19:58.03 | Zmr56 | The New United Nations...? |
| 19:58.11 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer: it actually reminds me of dotacinema's new pudge set come to think of it |
| 19:59.25 | OluapPlayer | dunno about that hur |
| 19:59.36 | Angrybirds | Come on guys, some help here. |
| 19:59.44 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:MiniBillig2.png there's Zombillig's minipic |
| 19:59.59 | Technobliterator | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=232076314 |
| 20:00.11 | Zmr56 | Perhaps League of Overterra? |
| 20:00.32 | OluapPlayer | dat miner beard |
| 20:00.44 | Technobliterator | it has custom skill icons as well |
| 20:00.47 | Chantal71 | Techno, I replied to your comment in record time. |
| 20:00.57 | Technobliterator | :D |
| 20:00.59 | Technobliterator | sweet |
| 20:01.34 | Technobliterator | despite being ill, today has been amazing |
| 20:01.58 | Technobliterator | got promoted on FFwiki, not lost a single dota game, and spoken to an old irl friend |
| 20:02.41 | drom | Speaking with a long lost irl friend is one of the greatest moments that you can have in your life. |
| 20:03.26 | Angrybirds | So... What I'm getting from this is that if I just pick a name, no one will care? |
| 20:06.26 | Angrybirds | Orion League? Orion League of Nations? |
| 20:06.56 | Monet | I like Orion League |
| 20:07.02 | Angrybirds | Same here, actually. |
| 20:07.43 | OluapPlayer | What to do now |
| 20:07.52 | Zmr56 | I guess we can roll with it |
| 20:08.12 | Imperios_ | OluapPlayer: If you want to work on shirtless plot |
| 20:08.15 | Imperios_ | We can do so now |
| 20:08.18 | OluapPlayer | Sure |
| 20:08.22 | OluapPlayer | I got an hour and half |
| 20:08.55 | Angrybirds | Alright. I'll go with Orion League. What do you guys think of "Chairman" as the title for the executive office? Chairman of the Orion League. |
| 20:09.16 | OluapPlayer | I was thinking of making a gharial-themed subspecies for the Dracogonarious |
| 20:09.24 | OluapPlayer | But I don't know how I could explain their existence |
| 20:09.38 | Imperios_ | Cyrannian|Busy: Want me to make an AI guardian of Antemurale? |
| 20:09.41 | Imperios_ | Built by Rades |
| 20:09.45 | Imperios_ | A hologram of some sort |
| 20:11.41 | Zmr56 | I can agree on Chairman |
| 20:12.18 | Imperios_ | OluapPlayer: Alright, let me prepare for a few mins |
| 20:12.33 | Cyrannian|Busy | Imperios_: That would be cool |
| 20:19.22 | Cyrannian|Busy | In regard to humans, Wormy, Liquid, Ghelae and I were discussing possible compromises and we came up with reviving the Human Republic as a more EU-esque organisation rather than a UN-esque organisation. The people interested in enacting hard-core human politics can join the UN while those who aren't as interested can join the Republic. |
| 20:20.37 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.39 | Wormy | They could be tied to The Civilisation and Kindred Coalition, so it'd be merely organising humans already present. |
| 20:21.59 | Angrybirds | I thought we agreed on a compromise, though? It's redundant to have two human multinational organizations. |
| 20:22.18 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 20:22.32 | Wormy | Not really, we have the non-Terran humans, and humans living in The Civilisation. |
| 20:22.49 | Cyrannian|Busy | Not to mention the Quadrantia and Cyrannian humans. |
| 20:22.52 | Wormy | ^ |
| 20:23.08 | Angrybirds | Yes, but this is in the Orion's Spur, the heart of human fiction. |
| 20:23.17 | Wormy | No-one said it had to be. |
| 20:23.54 | Wormy | We know for example, of humans in the Scutum Crux |
| 20:24.31 | Imperios_ | Cyrannian|Busy: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Netzach.png Here we go |
| 20:24.48 | Cyrannian|Busy | Ooh, awesome work |
| 20:25.15 | Zmr56 | For a tiny rodent he looks pretty intimidating. |
| 20:25.21 | Cyrannian|Busy | At first I was going to make Antemurale as a mere section, but maybe we could work on a separate page for it together? |
| 20:25.33 | Imperios_ | Certainly |
| 20:25.34 | Imperios_ | Why not? |
| 20:26.00 | Cyrannian|Busy | Speaking of which: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140320200820/spore/images/8/8d/OuterRim.png |
| 20:26.41 | Wormy | Masterpiece |
| 20:26.59 | Wormy | High quality resolution, especially top left |
| 20:27.00 | Imperios_ | Looks pretty |
| 20:27.12 | Cyrannian|Busy | The planets are Var Tuuraen, Vasuband, Antemurale and Nex |
| 20:27.25 | OluapPlayer | http://filesmelt.com/dl/CRE_Dracogogavil-11552a2b_ful.png how does this look? |
| 20:27.52 | Cyrannian|Busy | Very nice madam |
| 20:28.28 | Wormy | is reminded of the character George Adgdwengo |
| 20:28.34 | Angrybirds | Wait, so Cyrannian, I thought the UN/EU-like organization we agreed upon on Ghelae blog would serve as the overarching human organization in the Orion's Spur? |
| 20:28.43 | Zmr56 | Looks funny, I like it |
| 20:28.57 | Angrybirds | human/near-human/aliens who end up joining it* |
| 20:29.03 | Wormy | *George Agdgdgwngo |
| 20:31.38 | Cyrannian|Busy | This solution means everyone is happy, you can create the UN as realistic as you wish with the security council, the secretary general and modern voting systems. While those who find that a tad boring can creating something with a more sci-fi flavour. |
| 20:32.10 | Wormy | The human fiction was always flexible anyway, they are for everyone |
| 20:33.03 | Wormy | So we have fanfics based on other sci-fi's, BNSC-human interactions, the creation of the Jovar and the apparent extinction of Humanity, humans unleashing the Xhodocto, the Vorgormon... |
| 20:33.19 | Wormy | The story constantly changes |
| 20:33.34 | Wormy | Humans living in the Quadrants who went into the Tigris war |
| 20:34.18 | dino__ | Humans fighting in the tigris war? |
| 20:34.49 | Wormy | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Human_Republic#Assault_on_Kamik.27_Shi |
| 20:35.00 | Angrybirds | The whole point of the compromise was to address both of those styles. |
| 20:35.50 | Wormy | But will it satisfy everyone? |
| 20:36.30 | *** join/#sporewiki Liquid_Ink (65a556ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.165.86.237) |
| 20:36.34 | Wormy | Hi |
| 20:36.37 | Angrybirds | Does it? I made an effort to incorporate as many ideas presented on the blog as possible into a working system. What would you change? |
| 20:36.53 | Cyrannian|Busy | Ah hello, we were discussing our revival of the Human Republic. |
| 20:37.12 | Wormy | I don't know why this really negates the compromise, or the UN fiction. |
| 20:37.14 | *** join/#sporewiki Xho (52189c62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.24.156.98) |
| 20:37.42 | Wormy | Enlighten us |
| 20:37.47 | Wormy | hi |
| 20:37.54 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 20:37.56 | Xho | enlightens Wormy |
| 20:38.01 | OluapPlayer | Xho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBOJeJdQjk8 |
| 20:38.33 | Wormy | is sent to the darkest hell and emerges as a super being |
| 20:38.53 | Xho | OluapPlayer: YOU SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND BABY RIGHT ROUND |
| 20:39.13 | Liquid_Ink | I feel like the only person who likes that song. |
| 20:39.16 | *** join/#sporewiki Jepardi (b24b970e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.75.151.14) |
| 20:39.18 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 20:39.56 | Zmr56 | Hi |
| 20:40.08 | Angrybirds | Wormy: It creates two competing organizations, which means less activity for both, or one fiction stealing all of the activity from the other. |
| 20:40.19 | Tek0516Droid | ^ |
| 20:40.30 | Wormy | Stealing is a harsh word. |
| 20:40.31 | Angrybirds | Probably Cyrannian's one because he's a veteran, and everyone flocks to him by default |
| 20:40.46 | Angrybirds | By no fault of his own, but that's just how it is. |
| 20:41.09 | Xho | Dear lord are we still on this competition coversation |
| 20:41.25 | Jepardi | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aOqp2X6_460sa.gif |
| 20:41.35 | Wormy | You know, this attitude that we are hierachial sumpreme beings on the wiki is not healthy. Time and again we try to make sure no-one see's a hierarchy here. |
| 20:41.35 | Monet | RGIA IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ON ABOUT |
| 20:41.42 | Monet | THIS* |
| 20:41.47 | Cyrannian|Busy | That's kinda rude Angrybirds. |
| 20:42.35 | Xho | The bottom line is, expierence and tenure will forever run a hidden hierarchy that cannot be removed on the wiki |
| 20:43.00 | Xho | Users who have collaborated for longer or successfully will always be favoured over those who haven't |
| 20:43.03 | Xho | It's a harsh truth |
| 20:43.04 | Tek0516Droid | It's not exactly accusation, we're more likely to the one with more support. |
| 20:43.06 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 20:43.07 | Xho | But it's exactly that |
| 20:43.55 | Angrybirds | I absolutely agree with Xho, though I think that if we all acknowledge that it's happening and try to counteract it instead of helping it along, we'll go far to making this a more healthy place. |
| 20:44.33 | Angrybirds | Cyrannian|Busy : As Tek said, it wasn't an accusation directed at you, it was just a neutral statement of fact. |
| 20:45.13 | Angrybirds | I apologize if you took it the wrong way. |
| 20:45.40 | OluapPlayer | Well I was gonna post my new creature but it seems like this is not the time |
| 20:45.52 | Angrybirds | Thanks Oulap. |
| 20:45.59 | Xho | OluapPlayer: and ur just sittin dere masturbatin' |
| 20:46.21 | OluapPlayer | i eint hachi foo |
| 20:47.01 | Monet | It's pissing me off that it takes a fucking argument for some peopel to get int otheir heads what's wrong with this wiki |
| 20:47.24 | Monet | And even THEn there's a 50/50 chance they'll forget all about it a week later |
| 20:47.42 | Wormy | You know what is a real shame? |
| 20:48.10 | Wormy | No-one can create a new fiction here without causing upset and complaint anymore |
| 20:48.18 | Xho | Yeah |
| 20:48.23 | Xho | Makes me *very* angry |
| 20:48.32 | Angrybirds | Why do you think that is? |
| 20:48.42 | Wormy | All some of us want to do is create a new human faction. |
| 20:48.44 | Xho | Can't go two minutes without saying "OH NO XHO YOU CAN'T DO THAT" bullshit I've been doing that for 5 years |
| 20:49.04 | *** part/#sporewiki OluapPlayer (badab2a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.218.178.165) |
| 20:49.39 | Wormy | It is completely unnecessary and it is a new phenomenon for the large part. |
| 20:49.48 | Wormy | anyway, bbl, dinner |
| 20:49.55 | Xho | Constructive criticism is alright |
| 20:50.50 | Xho | Although users taking it upon themselves to actively dislike something is another thing entirely |
| 20:51.07 | Xho | As a collab, as long as it is well written and fits within the basic constraints of the wiki, opinion shouldn't matter |
| 20:51.23 | Monet | I'd say it has something ot do with your obsessive need to be the one with the biggest stick |
| 20:51.28 | Angrybirds | Which is incomprehensible to me. |
| 20:51.33 | Angrybirds | And now you guys are going back on that. |
| 20:52.04 | Xho | Well let's put it this way, if I weren't the one with the biggest stick who would have it |
| 20:52.33 | Monet | We invite you to the Civverse and after you get over the "no demons" rule you make the *most powerful corporation in the setting* |
| 20:52.53 | Xho | Okay |
| 20:53.08 | Xho | You know what? If you're going to keep complaining, I have no reason to be nice to you any further |
| 20:53.35 | dino__ | now now guys, just let us all keep friendly! |
| 20:53.58 | Monet | The reason the complaints have been utterly constant for 5 years is because you could not give a shit |
| 20:54.13 | Xho | Actually, the complaints have only evolved with you starting it |
| 20:54.19 | Xho | In the last 6 months or so |
| 20:54.31 | Xho | Users don't tend to like it they won't dig into it |
| 20:54.37 | Xho | You not doing the same is the issue |
| 20:55.47 | Xho | You pointing out any conceivable issue in the wiki, mine especially, is outright bullying in most respects |
| 20:56.33 | Xho | No other user has come to me with a problem and usually I take it on board, the sheer quantity of complaints from you however has made me overlook it since it just doesn't fit with what you think is ideal |
| 20:56.46 | Xho | As a collaborative, your opinion is only of equal weight to everyone else's |
| 20:57.06 | Xho | I have never *ever* complained about your fiction |
| 20:57.10 | Xho | Since I like it |
| 20:57.26 | Zmr56 | I agree with dino_ lets try to keep friendly |
| 20:57.44 | Xho | If you don't like mine, well you are entitled to your opinion but vocalising it with continuous malice is not friendly, nor in the rules of the wiki |
| 20:57.48 | Monet | Before I came to the wiki I spent several years on World of Warcraft. RPers were often quick ot point out what they considered BS |
| 20:58.01 | Xho | There is a line between criticism and unfriendliness here and you have crossed it |
| 20:59.01 | Xho | You only call it bullshit because you think that me controlling things others would deem overpowered seems unfair |
| 20:59.26 | Xho | Have I ever unfairly imposed rules on anything? No. Cyrannian created his entire theory and anyone is free to accept it or not |
| 20:59.27 | dino__ | Bye all, am leaving again! |
| 20:59.32 | dino__ | See ya all next time |
| 20:59.52 | Xho | And anyone is free to accept what I create and anyone else is free to accept their creations |
| 20:59.52 | Monet | Xho: The way I see it you get away with a lot of this because of how long uou've been here |
| 20:59.54 | dino__ | Bye |
| 21:00.21 | Xho | Not meaning to sound like a dick but I did give the first basis for a wider fiction universe in the first place |
| 21:00.47 | Xho | If I am to get away with it its only because of that |
| 21:01.05 | Monet | And I consider that an abuse of status |
| 21:01.21 | Xho | If many users have a problem with things I will change it, but since you're the only one with a negative opinion then why should I |
| 21:01.25 | *** join/#sporewiki Angrybirds (99128801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.153.18.136.1) |
| 21:01.31 | Angrybirds | What did I miss? |
| 21:01.53 | Xho | And specifically speaking, you're giving me the ideals of a status |
| 21:01.58 | Xho | When we're all meant to be equal on the wiki |
| 21:02.21 | Monet | We're meant to be yes. |
| 21:02.21 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 21:02.34 | Monet | But apparently that doesn't stop heirachies being born |
| 21:02.52 | Xho | No it doesn't, if anyone else did what I did it wouldn't stop a hierarchy either |
| 21:02.58 | Xho | I'm not the only one with stuff like that |
| 21:03.05 | Zmr56 | I don't think we have a hierarchy here |
| 21:03.19 | Cyrannian|Busy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM5hQ3Qtf-8 - I think we should all calm down and watch this video of purring kittens. |
| 21:03.20 | Monet | Anyone else who does what you have done tends to get shot down in a blazing inferno |
| 21:03.20 | Xho | So why you're going at me and me alone is to me incredibly unfair and quite possibly worthy for taking action if you do not stop |
| 21:04.55 | Angrybirds | We kind of do. Some of us have control over galaxy-reaching superpowers, while some of us are tiny. Naturally, the superpowers are going to be making all of the big stories and will be at the center of all of the stories. Everyone else is orbiting around them, shoving to get a moment in the spotlight. |
| 21:05.03 | Xho | Perhaps what I have done is a basis users are not meant to cross |
| 21:05.18 | Xho | I've set myself out of the general convention so users have a box to work in |
| 21:05.28 | Imperios_ | Bah |
| 21:05.31 | Imperios_ | I don't like kittnes |
| 21:05.57 | Zmr56 | Those cats were tasty |
| 21:06.13 | Angrybirds | Because I've observed that getting attention on the wiki is basically a matter of getting a fiction that has a lot of traffic and attention to include you in their story. |
| 21:06.21 | Xho | Angrybirds: That's no one's fault, if there's a larger scope for things to take place then the larger scope is going to take first place anyway |
| 21:06.39 | Xho | I don't like the fact that fictions are bigger than others |
| 21:06.48 | Angrybirds | Xho : I'm stating things as they are without judgement. |
| 21:06.58 | Xho | But if there's a larger fictional premise for it then that's the harsh truth of it |
| 21:07.08 | Xho | Bigger things will overshadow smaller things no matter what user |
| 21:07.18 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 21:07.26 | Angrybirds | True, though the bigger fictions should be more aware that that's the case. |
| 21:07.43 | Xho | The fact that I always have large, grandiose collaborations does not change the fundamental rule of that |
| 21:07.45 | Monet | I've seen users today commenting how more users = grander fiction |
| 21:07.51 | Monet | from their persoective |
| 21:08.08 | Xho | Great Cyrannus War, Borealis Wars |
| 21:08.18 | Xho | Overall had more attention than I ever had for any of my stuff |
| 21:09.20 | Xho | And in the time I have been here, I can tell that cannot change overnight |
| 21:09.43 | Wormy | Children... |
| 21:09.46 | Wormy | Calm down |
| 21:10.05 | Wormy | I know for a fact some of yopu are, ot at least overeacting |
| 21:10.07 | Xho | Bottom line, nothing I do actually dictates anything unless you allow yourself to be dictated by it |
| 21:10.28 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 21:10.51 | Wormy | I come here to make fiction because I enjoy it, I don't want to have bad feelings over these rather silly issues. |
| 21:11.01 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 21:11.05 | Xho | Indeed |
| 21:11.11 | Wormy | This discussion seriously escalated. |
| 21:11.15 | Xho | I will probably get destroyed for saying this |
| 21:11.15 | *** join/#sporewiki Hachiman (56b9ab43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.185.171.67) |
| 21:11.17 | Hachiman | hai |
| 21:11.18 | Wormy | while I was away |
| 21:11.20 | Wormy | Hi |
| 21:11.33 | Xho | Hachiman: You might want to leave as we're in the middle of a heated discussion of me being a twat |
| 21:11.37 | Cyrannian|Busy | Hai |
| 21:11.49 | Zmr56 | As long as we enjoy ourselves whether we be overshadowed or not I'm not bothered. |
| 21:12.02 | Xho | I will probably get destroyed for saying this however, that I sort of blame scientific limitation for most of the criticism that arises on the wiki |
| 21:12.11 | Xho | Of course it's sci-fi |
| 21:12.14 | Angrybirds | Xho : Just want to say I don't have a problem with your points, your fiction, or your approach as for as I can see. |
| 21:12.19 | Angrybirds | far* |
| 21:12.34 | Zmr56 | Many of our new fics have been more equal than others |
| 21:12.45 | Xho | But when you get attached to that paradigmatic approach then it sucks the fun out of everything and then falsification rises faster than you can push it down |
| 21:13.22 | Cyrannian | People may join fictions that have more of a history on the wiki, but I feel joining fiction that you actually like is far more important. |
| 21:13.35 | Xho | Of course |
| 21:13.40 | Zmr56 | I agree |
| 21:13.44 | Xho | And it should be like that, but it quite obviously isn't |
| 21:14.49 | Cyrannian | I feel that my fiction's popularity is being overstated. I mean, the Dark Times only had a handful of participants. |
| 21:14.52 | Xho | And if you have a problem on the wiki there's such a massive room to circumvent such issues but criticising isn't the way forward |
| 21:15.32 | Wormy | It's not like say, the Katar Sector is undermined by us veteran users existing either, you have plenty of interaction. |
| 21:16.01 | Imperios_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpGp7ZMSp0I Thessina's education |
| 21:16.04 | Angrybirds | Cyrannian : And yet, when you post something on IRC, it receives immediate praise and is read. Whenever one of us post something, the best we can hope for is a funny gif from Oualp and a discussion about that. |
| 21:16.05 | Wormy | So no, I doubt that any Human Republic we make will "steal" attention away from the UN |
| 21:16.29 | Wormy | If everyone thought like that, we wouldn't get anywhere |
| 21:16.45 | Wormy | And no-one reacted like that before. |
| 21:17.25 | Monet | I'd say Angrbirds has a point |
| 21:17.31 | Monet | Angrybirds* |
| 21:17.38 | Zmr56 | I guess I try to respond to everyone |
| 21:17.47 | Cyrannian | Angrybirds: Bluntly, did it occur to you that's because people might actually find my idea more interesting? |
| 21:17.49 | Wormy | "Everyone flocks to Cyrannian be default" - This is overstated |
| 21:18.02 | Xho | Whoa whoa whoa let's not get blunt here |
| 21:18.11 | Angrybirds | I don't mind. |
| 21:18.20 | Angrybirds | Cyrannian: No, it's because the link has your name on it. |
| 21:18.27 | Hachiman | I'll say honestly that I only read fiction that interests me, I'm not going to read every fiction ever |
| 21:18.33 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 21:18.36 | Angrybirds | You have to first click on the link before appreciating how interesting it is. |
| 21:18.36 | Hachiman | Although I do read a lot of fiction |
| 21:18.56 | Xho | The unfortunate thing is that whenever I make something it's sure to get some attention because the name 'Xho' carries weight with fiction writing |
| 21:18.59 | Xho | For better or for worse |
| 21:19.01 | Wormy | Quite honestly, it's a negative attitude you have against some of us. |
| 21:19.22 | Monet | I give an example of what happened earlier: I post the starting chapter of the GC's Andromeda front. Only Cyrannian said he liked it. Xho posts the arc picture for Insominia and about FOUR people state their approval. |
| 21:19.43 | Wormy | And yet Xho has complained of the same thing. |
| 21:19.50 | Hachiman | Well yeah, a name carries weight, that's how authors and writers get famous and popular |
| 21:19.51 | Wormy | I have complained of the samev thing |
| 21:19.57 | Wormy | You have complained of the same thing |
| 21:19.59 | Imperios_ | Wait |
| 21:20.02 | Imperios_ | When did Hachi appear |
| 21:20.11 | Wormy | Jo and Oluap have complained of the same thing. |
| 21:20.17 | Xho | The basic rule of the wiki is that complaining doesn't get us anywhere |
| 21:20.23 | Wormy | ^ |
| 21:20.43 | Xho | Taking action to further improve the attention of things that require positive attention however will get us somewhere |
| 21:20.58 | Monet | Okay. Okay |
| 21:21.00 | Wormy | And to be honest, this perceived popularity needs to die. It is not healthy. |
| 21:21.02 | Xho | But, as I have said before, that is very difficult |
| 21:21.07 | Monet | Fuck you. I've TRIED that |
| 21:21.13 | Angrybirds | Whoa. |
| 21:21.16 | Xho | Monet: Okay now you're being rude |
| 21:21.25 | Angrybirds | Whoa. Can we please be civil? |
| 21:21.31 | Xho | You can either be civil, open minded or just leave |
| 21:22.17 | Zmr56 | Look, when anyone post something I respond unless I'm busy |
| 21:22.17 | Hachiman | Also has it come to attention that some users share better relationships than others and thus are more inclined to check out their work? |
| 21:22.27 | Xho | That too |
| 21:22.41 | Xho | Ah |
| 21:22.43 | Cyrannian | Exactly |
| 21:22.46 | Angrybirds | Except those relationships are EXTREMELY difficult to establish. |
| 21:22.46 | drom | I agree with Zmr56 |
| 21:22.48 | Xho | You hit the nail on the head there |
| 21:23.02 | Xho | Secret to succeeding here? Productive communication |
| 21:23.39 | Hachiman | I don't see you Angrybirds commenting on OluapPlayer's work either |
| 21:23.39 | Angrybirds | I don't think we should get rid of them, that's just silly. I just think that we should acknowledge that this hierarchy exists and work to make it easier on new users. |
| 21:23.51 | Xho | Angrybirds: Clever idea |
| 21:24.01 | Monet | This whole wiki is a fucking beauty paegent. |
| 21:24.05 | Hachiman | It's less a hierarchy and more of a buddy system |
| 21:24.53 | Cyrannian | ^ I've noticed that when I put something up it would be my closest friends that respond. |
| 21:24.59 | Angrybirds | Haciman : With the big users forming a tight circle which is nearly impossible to get into or even participate in. |
| 21:25.06 | Hachiman | Users share closer relations and thus are more likely to check out one another's work, so say if I was to be on the same level of friendship with say Zmr (no offense) as I was with OluapPlayer I'd be more eager and inclined to check his work |
| 21:25.10 | Xho | The more friends you have here or the more active communication you have the more likely you are to |
| 21:25.20 | Xho | And yes there is a tight ring of the 'older users' here |
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| 21:26.05 | Angrybirds | Which I think should be acknowledged and efforts made to be more inclusive based on fiction, not just on the closeness of the users. |
| 21:26.12 | drom | Establishing friendships is hard when the other person isn't really open-minded. |
| 21:26.14 | Angrybirds | efforts should be made* |
| 21:26.18 | Xho | Monet: You were a new user and your fiction is now one of the most developed here |
| 21:26.25 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 21:26.45 | Imperios | He had connections, honestly |
| 21:27.02 | Xho | The fact you can call this a beauty pageant when your fiction is now collected among the more 'famed' stuff is rather hypocritical |
| 21:27.13 | Zmr56 | I do try to respond to Monet's fic when I can and when I'm not busy |
| 21:27.14 | Xho | Jo was a new user |
| 21:27.16 | Xho | Hachi was a new user |
| 21:27.31 | Monet | I'm up there yes. |
| 21:27.45 | Monet | But I try to see what younger users are doing. |
| 21:27.58 | Monet | I'd be happy to get involved with them |
| 21:27.59 | Wormy | I think the beauty pageant is perceived and not actually real. |
| 21:28.06 | Hachiman | Then get involved with them then |
| 21:28.15 | Xho | Right I know what to do |
| 21:28.18 | drom | Monet: You are free to. |
| 21:28.36 | Imperios | Just let everyone write their fics |
| 21:28.38 | Hachiman | I know it sounds harsh, but unless it interests me or is a product of a user I'm friendly with I'm not going to check it out |
| 21:28.47 | Hachiman | That's how it works in normality |
| 21:28.53 | Angrybirds | Wormy: That's because you're on the inside looking out. I'm on the outside looking in. |
| 21:28.57 | Cyrannian | People tend to become close on this wiki based on fiction. It would be weird if you hated the fiction created by your best friend. There's a reason behind users checking their friend's fiction compared to a stranger's fiction. |
| 21:28.58 | Imperios | We are here becaude we are writers, not because we seek popularity |
| 21:28.59 | Xho | It should be made clear that users, perhaps admins especially as they're tasked with the wiki staying shape should promote to collect all of the users under one umbrella |
| 21:28.59 | Hachiman | You don't go to a library and check out every piece of literature |
| 21:29.16 | Wormy | Angrybirds: This is because most of us have complained that our fiction is under-viewed. And for that matter, new users can easily get involved |
| 21:29.28 | Xho | If everyone managed to talk with each other more I bet the wiki would be a friendlier place |
| 21:29.39 | Wormy | Angrybirds: Your Katar Sector and UN stuff has worked like a storm of activity. |
| 21:29.48 | Xho | And more open for collaboration |
| 21:29.56 | Zmr56 | Aye |
| 21:30.00 | Monet | Its these circles that make it harder for some ot get feedback. |
| 21:30.02 | Xho | I might need to smack Oluap so he can be friendlier with newer users |
| 21:30.21 | Tek0516Droid | A storm that then later gets mostly ignored. |
| 21:30.21 | Xho | The problem is with feedback that it is only given when something has a strong enough foundation |
| 21:30.25 | drom | Xho. As an "new" user, I agree with you. |
| 21:30.33 | Xho | New things that come in won't get feedback because it's new |
| 21:30.37 | drom | He's facing the wrong polar to the new users. |
| 21:30.48 | Wormy | Tek0516Droid: The problem is Tek, most of us feel the same way once and while. |
| 21:30.50 | Cyrannian | drom: As a new user, have you noticed any problems in being noticed? |
| 21:30.51 | Xho | It takes time to appreciate things wherever you go when you face something new |
| 21:31.02 | Zmr56 | I like the older users and newer users because I have a level of respect for them and I try to treat them like anyone else. |
| 21:31.05 | Xho | The fact that we ignore users on the outside is a fault of our own |
| 21:31.07 | drom | Cyrannian, partially. |
| 21:31.14 | Cyrannian | How so? |
| 21:31.22 | Xho | So it should be stopped indeed |
| 21:31.25 | drom | Because I post in the wrong moment. |
| 21:31.28 | Xho | But how willing are users is another question entirely |
| 21:31.47 | Wormy | I don't see much evidence of admins and veterans ignoring new users either. Though as Xho said, we need to encourage Oluap |
| 21:31.51 | Angrybirds | Cyrannian: I have a case study once you're done with drom. |
| 21:31.59 | Monet | I understand I have one of the most developed fictions. But that's what makes me nxious when I don't get nything more than an "I like" on a story or a character or a concept |
| 21:32.10 | drom | I just put my links and then let them to check it out if they want to. |
| 21:32.17 | Hachiman | I'm going to stay the same. Unless the fiction interests me or is made by a friend of mine, I'm not going to check it, or whether I'm asked to review it in which case I will |
| 21:32.24 | Zmr56 | I always respond to Techno, Drom, AB, Wormy, Imp, Hachi, Cyrannian, Oluap etc |
| 21:32.29 | drom | But feedback is the only thing that I can feel more comfortable when I write, create fiction. |
| 21:32.31 | Zmr56 | Or at least I try to |
| 21:32.54 | Xho | Hachiman: Of course, although I think communicating with everyone on the IRC or at least to aid construction is always a good thing |
| 21:33.02 | drom | I usually respond when I have the chance. |
| 21:33.06 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 21:33.21 | Xho | It is inevitable that friction will arise but as I have said before complaining solves absolutely nothing |
| 21:33.36 | drom | But I find myself writing fiction and creating creations and spending time in imgur instead. |
| 21:33.41 | Xho | You can either fight it out or change it, either circumstance is different |
| 21:34.02 | Zmr56 | Many of us will be busy on our own stuff as well |
| 21:34.06 | drom | Aye |
| 21:34.15 | Wormy | Angrybirds: What exactly do you expect us to do anyway? Not create collab fiction just encase it marginalises someone-else's? Isn't that the same problem but inverted? |
| 21:34.27 | Monet | I've noticed a pattern that it seems to take several instances of complaining, anxiety attacks or whatever else negative for us to start considering an issue, or provide feedback |
| 21:34.36 | Wormy | It is not the solution. |
| 21:34.46 | Hachiman | Well yeah, that's how an issue gets considered |
| 21:35.23 | Monet | Do people really deserve going though that to get more than five words of feedback? |
| 21:35.34 | Xho | No not really |
| 21:35.40 | Zmr56 | Sometimes I don't respond to stories because I don't have the time, that's why I respond to Oluap's and Techno's stuff more because it tends to be more shorter and rp based |
| 21:35.57 | Xho | Feedback isn't something one should strive for really |
| 21:36.03 | Xho | It isn't a popularity contest |
| 21:36.05 | Angrybirds | Wormy : As I said, I think we should acknowledge that a lot of us are doing fiction on a basis of relationships with users. Cyrannian's prologue to the GigaConflicts is a prime example of this. He made an effort to reach out to everyone and include fictions that normally don't get the spotlight, and I was very excited for this. |
| 21:36.05 | Xho | Although it is |
| 21:36.08 | Zmr56 | But overall everyone here in this room(?) has good fiction |
| 21:36.27 | Wormy | I just write fiction because I enjoy it. That is why I write standalone stories so often. |
| 21:36.33 | Monet | I've tried working with Wormy and Cyrannian on a more feedback-based Featured Fiction section, and it feels like all that has been accomplished is a longer period the polls are open |
| 21:36.52 | drom | Wormy: The experience to work together with you were amazing. |
| 21:36.59 | drom | Honestly. |
| 21:37.04 | Wormy | Thanks |
| 21:37.08 | Angrybirds | It was an enormous letdown, though, because the fiction itself ended up revolving around, guess who, just a core group of veteran users with a passing mention to some of us. (Tybusen, arguably a veteran fiction) wasn't even mentioned. |
| 21:37.19 | Wormy | I enjoyed it toom I like helping out new fiction when I can. |
| 21:37.22 | Angrybirds | You just need to look at fiction images to see that. |
| 21:37.30 | Xho | I would say removing the featured fiction articles |
| 21:37.35 | Xho | Or at least |
| 21:37.43 | Xho | Don't give it to any veteran user |
| 21:37.57 | Wormy | No |
| 21:37.57 | Imperios | Why not? |
| 21:38.11 | Wormy | "Not create collab fiction just encase it marginalises someone-else's? Isn't that the same problem but inverted?" |
| 21:38.12 | drom | Xho, I featured fiction articles to learn other's standards and how to properly write a fiction. |
| 21:38.13 | Imperios | We should give youngsters a chancw |
| 21:38.16 | Hachiman | Just because a stranger asks nicely doesn't mean I'm going to check out their work if the premise doesn't interest me, that's the harsh reality as a lot of people think like that and are justified in doing so |
| 21:38.16 | Wormy | I state this point again |
| 21:38.18 | Hachiman | Would you watch all these new programmes or read all of these books by aspiring authors if the premise didn't interest you, would you read something like Twilight or watch some shitty flick because their maker asked nicely? |
| 21:38.18 | drom | I use featured* |
| 21:38.20 | Angrybirds | Wormy: What I think should be done is making fiction based on who has reason to be there, not on that friendship. |
| 21:38.25 | Zmr56 | Or maybe instead of having every month just have some kind of Hall of Fame for any time for anyone |
| 21:38.37 | Xho | Drom: True |
| 21:38.42 | Xho | Hm okay withdraw my statement then |
| 21:38.42 | Hachiman | Not that new user work is shitty mind you |
| 21:38.57 | Angrybirds | Drom's work is worthy of praise. |
| 21:39.00 | Xho | But perhaps the featured fiction should be more...hm |
| 21:39.02 | Xho | Expanded |
| 21:39.10 | Xho | To all users |
| 21:39.13 | Angrybirds | Wormy: Does this make sense? |
| 21:39.23 | Xho | Or make it easier for newer users to get attention |
| 21:39.35 | Zmr56 | Even being nominated is a good enough honour |
| 21:39.38 | Cyrannian | Beg your pardon? Just because I didn't include a French ship in my picture doesn't mean I marginalised anyone. I tried to create an interesting new fiction and I include mention of many fictions. If I mentioned every detail of everyone's involved, the story would be bogged down. |
| 21:39.40 | Wormy | I think perhaps a yearning for being praised is a problem actually. |
| 21:39.55 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 21:39.56 | Xho | Attention is thrown about like a commodity in this wiki, so if it's going to be thrown about throw it to those who don't have the attention |
| 21:40.09 | Zmr56 | Well I have to leave |
| 21:40.16 | Zmr56 | Tell me if anything new happens |
| 21:40.27 | Imperios | I have no strong feelings one way or the other. |
| 21:40.36 | Wormy | I say throw it out completely. I'm not going to praise someone's fiction just to make them feel gooey inside. |
| 21:40.36 | Angrybirds | Cyrannian: I apologize, I meant that the fact that there wasn't a French ship in any of the images in a symptom of a bigger problem, not a problem in it of itself. |
| 21:40.39 | Tek0516Droid | I think this is less an issue of attention and more of simple acknowledgement. |
| 21:40.57 | Xho | I agree with Hachi that users won't read it if it doesn't appeal to them - fair enough. but we're a wiki, almost like a team and in that case we'll work like a team |
| 21:40.59 | drom | How about we make two separate feature lists, one for good starters and one for the system that we currently use. |
| 21:41.05 | Wormy | *But we have all complained of this* |
| 21:41.06 | Imperios | Ya |
| 21:41.34 | Wormy | I just don't bother too much with wanting attention anymore. |
| 21:41.40 | Imperios | Xho: New user is credit to team |
| 21:41.44 | Xho | heh |
| 21:42.04 | drom | The starter list is to learn new users how to create a good ground and then get started and step it up higher to the level that we praise. |
| 21:43.16 | Xho | Whatever we do, don't make a featured user |
| 21:43.20 | Xho | Dear lord don't |
| 21:43.31 | Imperios | Definirely |
| 21:43.33 | Tek0516Droid | But new users won't stick around when the veterans don't even acknowledge their creations |
| 21:43.41 | Imperios | I do |
| 21:43.41 | Xho | Hm |
| 21:43.42 | Imperios | At times |
| 21:43.55 | Xho | It might be worth bashing a few skulls together to make the veteran users more welcome to newer users |
| 21:44.08 | Imperios | Xho: Bash Oluap |
| 21:44.13 | Xho | Yeah i'll do that later |
| 21:44.13 | Imperios | He does not like newbies |
| 21:44.30 | Imperios | I like newbies if their fiction intrigues me |
| 21:44.45 | Hachiman | Why should Oluap have to accomodate for newbies? If he isn't interested, he isn't interested |
| 21:44.51 | Monet | Call me a sceptic but I'm concerned that while we talk about this now as a serious issue, by next week it'll be back to same old same old |
| 21:45.03 | Imperios | Angrybirds, Aeo and drom are the newbies that drew my attwntion |
| 21:45.07 | Xho | Hachiman: Because he's an sysop and he's there to help |
| 21:45.15 | Monet | Hachiman: Because he has this attitude of "Oh newbie, leave me alone" |
| 21:45.24 | Cyrannian | (nice use of the user box, Xho :P) |
| 21:45.25 | drom | Who was Aeo again? |
| 21:45.31 | Xho | hih |
| 21:45.34 | Xho | All of the admins are there to help everyone |
| 21:45.46 | Xho | They're called administrators for a reason |
| 21:46.06 | Xho | They shouldn't wear it like a badge but their position on the wiki is one for users to talk to if there's a problem or any enquiry |
| 21:46.28 | Technobliterator | ? |
| 21:46.30 | Technobliterator | urm |
| 21:46.34 | Angrybirds | drom: It's before your time. |
| 21:46.36 | Technobliterator | an admin is just a user with extra buttons |
| 21:46.37 | Xho | I hate to say it but if Oluap isn't accommodating new users who are willing then what does it mean to be an admin |
| 21:46.40 | Technobliterator | and slightly more responsibility |
| 21:46.58 | Xho | Yeah but we're not the conventional wiki |
| 21:47.04 | Wormy | "But new users won't stick around when the veterans don't even acknowledge their creations" |
| 21:47.05 | Xho | Close knit communities need those who will help |
| 21:47.05 | drom | Angrybirds: Ah. Too bad if he didn't last too long. |
| 21:47.11 | Tek0516Droid | There's a reason 90% of new user questions on the wiki get sent to the admins. |
| 21:47.15 | Wormy | But how often does that happen really? |
| 21:47.16 | Imperios | Xho: We're a literary society |
| 21:47.19 | Imperios | Like Arzamas |
| 21:47.24 | Angrybirds | Technobliterator : They are perceived as having more prestige. |
| 21:47.30 | Technobliterator | oluap is definitely deserving of the admin powers though; he's been one for years and he used to do an absolute crapton of work |
| 21:47.31 | Technobliterator | no |
| 21:47.38 | Technobliterator | they do not have more prestige, they are just more trusted |
| 21:47.43 | Wormy | ^ |
| 21:47.50 | Angrybirds | Trust me, having been a new user, that's how it is perceived. |
| 21:47.55 | Xho | If they're more trusted they should act in a more trustworthy manner |
| 21:47.56 | Tek0516Droid | Aeo lasted a while, there were just a lot of conflict |
| 21:48.02 | Monet | But I've seen instances of this prestige being displayed as power |
| 21:48.05 | Technobliterator | Yeah, but how it's being percieved is not how it actually is. |
| 21:48.13 | Wormy | But it is not our fault we are being perceived that way. |
| 21:48.13 | Technobliterator | an admin is a user with more buttons, and nothing more |
| 21:48.17 | Angrybirds | Monet : Power, that's the word I was looking for. |
| 21:48.18 | Technobliterator | they are not bosses or supervisors |
| 21:48.22 | Technobliterator | they are not people with power |
| 21:48.25 | Technobliterator | they are users with more buttons |
| 21:48.28 | Xho | Technobliterator: Regardless, administrator is a title on the wiki so they should help |
| 21:48.34 | Xho | They're put in that position for a reason |
| 21:48.34 | Technobliterator | of course |
| 21:48.36 | Imperios | We're not a wiki community per se |
| 21:48.37 | Xho | Not just for extra buttons |
| 21:48.41 | Technobliterator | and yes, they should help |
| 21:48.53 | Xho | So in a sense they do have power to help |
| 21:49.06 | Xho | Emphasis on 'to help' |
| 21:49.06 | Tek0516Droid | Then set up a list of players to message for help if you admims don't like noobs. |
| 21:49.17 | Xho | But enough about admins, the wiki itself is more important |
| 21:49.17 | Imperios | We're more like a society of writers, a bit like the Uranians |
| 21:49.43 | Imperios | I am not implying that we are all homosexual pedophiles, no, just that our group is structured like that |
| 21:49.51 | Cyrannian | When I was a new user, I saw Wormy and Oluap as friendly and helpful. I didn't see them as being scary or all-powerful. |
| 21:49.51 | Imperios | We need to organise it accordingly |
| 21:50.00 | Imperios | Ditto |
| 21:50.04 | Imperios | Oluap was fun |
| 21:50.12 | Imperios | I worshipped him |
| 21:50.25 | Xho | I barely remember the admins when I joined |
| 21:50.28 | Technobliterator | [21:49] <Imperios> We're more like a society of writers, a bit like the Uranians |
| 21:50.28 | Imperios | Encouraging innovation, helping new talents |
| 21:50.33 | Technobliterator | That's irrelevant, we are a wiki regardless |
| 21:50.34 | Monet | Now he seems to be, well, rather harsh to new users |
| 21:50.34 | Angrybirds | Cyrannian: That was a long time ago. Things have changed. |
| 21:50.35 | Xho | Needless to say I don't think they were as friendly as we could be |
| 21:50.45 | Imperios | Jo: We have a different goal |
| 21:50.47 | Technobliterator | (although I seem to be the only user left who actually knows what a wiki is) |
| 21:50.50 | Technobliterator | no we do not |
| 21:50.54 | Technobliterator | there is no 'goal' in a wiki |
| 21:50.56 | drom | When I joined, I didn't see Oluap as scary or all-powerful. But I randomly beeped him once. We didn't touched each other since then. |
| 21:51.06 | Xho | Technobliterator: Wording like that isn't particularly relevant to the chat |
| 21:51.07 | drom | Or spoke a single word. |
| 21:51.08 | Technobliterator | the 'goal' is to have a site that runs MediaWiki software and code and is a database |
| 21:51.15 | Technobliterator | there is no 'goal' |
| 21:51.32 | Xho | Well, asking admins for help is one thing |
| 21:51.43 | Xho | If you're going to badger them then that's only going to annoy them |
| 21:51.46 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Our community's goal is to create, not to categorise and formulate like on your average siki |
| 21:51.49 | Xho | Like you would to anyone |
| 21:51.49 | Imperios | wiki |
| 21:52.01 | Imperios | That is the key difference |
| 21:52.08 | Xho | Indeed |
| 21:52.09 | drom | Xho: It was because I was dumb that moment. |
| 21:52.15 | Angrybirds | This has devolved into a nonargument. xD |
| 21:52.18 | Xho | Drom: Well what did you message him for |
| 21:52.21 | Tek0516Droid | When a new user asks a user with higher status for help and are recieved with hostility there's a serious problem. |
| 21:52.30 | Xho | Indeed |
| 21:52.33 | Imperios | Our goals are different, even though we use the same system |
| 21:52.34 | Cyrannian | I would think that most users like the current admins and don't see them as tyrants. |
| 21:52.39 | Imperios | Yeah |
| 21:52.45 | drom | Xho: He beat up Cyrannian with infobot. And I was little shit and joined it. |
| 21:52.55 | Technobliterator | [21:49] <Imperios> We're more like a society of writers, a bit like the Uranians |
| 21:52.56 | Technobliterator | what the fuck |
| 21:53.00 | drom | But hey, mistake learnt. |
| 21:53.02 | Technobliterator | there is NO goal. |
| 21:53.08 | Imperios | Uh? |
| 21:53.16 | Wormy | Angrybirds: I made a forum about this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:New_issues?t=20130201200316 |
| 21:53.17 | Technobliterator | [21:51] <Imperios> Technobliterator: Our community's goal is to create, not to categorise and formulate like on your average siki |
| 21:53.17 | Xho | Technobliterator: At the risk of sounding malicious do you actually know what we're talking about here |
| 21:53.20 | Technobliterator | tthat is COMPLETELY irrelevant |
| 21:53.26 | Technobliterator | yeah, I do know |
| 21:53.28 | Imperios | Uh? |
| 21:53.34 | Imperios | What are yoy talking about |
| 21:53.38 | Imperios | *you |
| 21:53.39 | drom | I do have a goal. |
| 21:53.43 | Imperios | Irrelevant to what |
| 21:53.46 | Technobliterator | it does not matter whether we are a wiki that contains fiction or a wiki that works as a database |
| 21:53.51 | Xho | The wiki isn't used for the main namespace anymore, there's nothing more to add |
| 21:53.54 | Imperios | It matters for me |
| 21:53.55 | Technobliterator | we USE MEDIAWIKI, therefore, we ARE a WIKI |
| 21:53.59 | Technobliterator | it does not matter |
| 21:54.03 | Imperios | Frankly the system is irrelevant to me |
| 21:54.03 | Xho | We are a wiki in the substantive definition |
| 21:54.13 | Technobliterator | that's not the reason we don't edit the main namespace |
| 21:54.14 | Imperios | If we were a forum |
| 21:54.16 | Angrybirds | Techno has no idea what we're arguing about. |
| 21:54.20 | Technobliterator | the reason we don't edit it is because there is no reason |
| 21:54.21 | Technobliterator | ... |
| 21:54.24 | Technobliterator | yes I do |
| 21:54.24 | Technobliterator | ... |
| 21:54.25 | Xho | What sets us apart is what we do, and there are other wikis like us who do exactly the same thing |
| 21:54.27 | Imperios | Little would change |
| 21:54.35 | Hachiman | "the reason we don't edit it is because there is no reason" aka there's nothing more to add |
| 21:54.37 | *** join/#sporewiki Zmr56 (4d6222a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.98.34.164) |
| 21:54.43 | Technobliterator | no |
| 21:54.44 | Zmr56 | Back |
| 21:54.45 | Cyrannian | Obviously, you are going to like and dislike certain people, but I think its overly paranoid to claim that admins are control freaks who sap attention from other users. |
| 21:54.45 | Technobliterator | there is no reason |
| 21:54.48 | Technobliterator | because no one wants to |
| 21:54.48 | drom | I still don't like the "edit with form" system. |
| 21:54.54 | Zmr56 | What did I miss? |
| 21:54.55 | Technobliterator | there is no such thing as a complete page |
| 21:54.57 | Xho | We're not like a wiki based on anything to further inform internet users |
| 21:55.02 | Wormy | If non-veteran users want to answer to new user questions they have every opportunity to |
| 21:55.02 | Technobliterator | ffs, I can't be bothered to argue this |
| 21:55.06 | Technobliterator | go learn what a wiki is |
| 21:55.08 | Xho | As a collaborative effort we create and refine what we have done |
| 21:55.08 | *** part/#sporewiki Technobliterator (56a059be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.160.89.190) |
| 21:55.24 | Imperios | I didn't get what she was talking about |
| 21:55.24 | Xho | Dear lord now my opinion's changing on some users tonight |
| 21:55.32 | Hachiman | What the fuck was that about |
| 21:55.33 | Angrybirds | Cyrannian : Whenever I started a project, I've learned that the best way to get it to get traction is to get a big user, like yourself, Wormy, etc, on board. Then, when people see that you guys are participating in it, they join in. |
| 21:55.46 | Xho | Too much friction tonight, I'm gonna get a glass of something heavy to reel myself back into reality |
| 21:55.56 | Hachiman | She just dismissed the entire matter of community |
| 21:56.00 | Imperios | I didn't get what exactly was irrelevant and to what |
| 21:56.01 | Xho | Pretty much |
| 21:56.01 | drom | Hachiman: I think she argued about the definition of wiki. |
| 21:56.02 | Hachiman | What the actual fuck |
| 21:56.07 | Xho | We are a wiki yes |
| 21:56.08 | Zmr56 | ? |
| 21:56.12 | Xho | But not a conventional wiki |
| 21:56.16 | Monet | At times I have idly wondered about creating a wiki dedicated to the DI. |
| 21:56.18 | Xho | We collaborate, not inform |
| 21:56.30 | Imperios | If we were a forum things would change little |
| 21:56.39 | Xho | Well we do inform |
| 21:56.41 | Hachiman | We're a wiki but we're also a community, we did our job with information now we're a source for collaberation |
| 21:56.49 | Xho | Exactly |
| 21:56.57 | Xho | I have no clue what Jo was on about there |
| 21:57.05 | Hachiman | If something new comes out, we are going to do our job and edit the namespace again to inform people |
| 21:57.11 | Imperios | What angered her in the first place |
| 21:57.15 | Xho | Hopefully anyway |
| 21:57.19 | Wormy | Angrybirds: You obviously don't like our position then. Because I see no problem with occasionally asking for a big user to be involved. It is not our faults, I repeat, that we are perceived this way, as you said it yourself. |
| 21:57.34 | drom | We collaborate to inform - and creating an universe of our creations. |
| 21:58.01 | Imperios | What we need is teaching newbies |
| 21:58.03 | Wormy | And I repeat, I'm not going to be stopped to making fiction because I'm part of some perceived admin hierarchy. |
| 21:58.04 | Angrybirds | Wormy: As I said, I think the problem isn't that that's how it is, it's that you guys don't acknowledge it. |
| 21:58.08 | Imperios | How about making more tutorials? |
| 21:58.17 | Angrybirds | Wormy: And don't proactively work against it. |
| 21:58.17 | Zmr56 | I join with other users to create friends and expand my "cricle" |
| 21:58.19 | Xho | Imperios: Now that's an idea worth considering |
| 21:58.41 | Xho | Angrybirds Wormy: We're playing a blame game here which no one's going to win |
| 21:58.44 | Wormy | But we do acknowledge, we know it exists, but people who perceieve us as such are just as much at fault.. |
| 21:58.44 | Imperios | Newbie layouts are often horrendous |
| 21:59.07 | Xho | I think the tutorials would be centred on formatting much rather than how to make something good |
| 21:59.14 | Xho | We can't whip people into an imaginative state |
| 21:59.15 | Imperios | ^ |
| 21:59.22 | Imperios | Yeah that mostly |
| 21:59.47 | Imperios | Now can we change subjects? |
| 21:59.59 | Xho | Wormy: It's probably a fundamental human psychological trait that there's always a leader even if it isn't initially intended |
| 22:00.02 | Wormy | I created it this ages ago to try and solve this problem. Did anybody comment? No... http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:New_issues?t=20130201200316 |
| 22:00.15 | Wormy | Yeah you are probably right |
| 22:00.29 | Xho | Probably something hard-wired into our systems that if something cannot be structured then it's viewed as completely anarchic |
| 22:00.37 | Xho | And with our psychology it *would* be anarchic |
| 22:00.41 | Imperios | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranian_poetry I personally percieve our society as a literary clique like these guys |
| 22:01.00 | Xho | So it might be worth *mellowing* the divide rather than removing it completely because that's not going to work |
| 22:01.19 | *** join/#sporewiki Zmr56 (4d6222a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.98.34.164) |
| 22:01.25 | Xho | Imperios: we not pederasts wat u on aboot |
| 22:01.29 | Wormy | Angrybirds, Monet: You must understand, a lot of us feel as though our fiction gets under-rated sometimes. It is not just about status, it is far more complicated. |
| 22:01.34 | Zmr56 | Anway I agree with more tutorials |
| 22:01.43 | Imperios | Xho: Tell that to Reminocles |
| 22:01.49 | Xho | geezush |
| 22:02.03 | Xho | I think a system has to be implied |
| 22:02.04 | drom | Zmr56: A piece of advice when it comes to creating friends. You should ask your partner. |
| 22:02.10 | Xho | But not so that everything's distant from each other |
| 22:02.11 | Wormy | Angrybirds: You may be right however, that writing fictions for friend circles might be causing the problem for all of us. |
| 22:02.21 | Imperios | Hey |
| 22:02.44 | Xho | I'd intend for everyone to eventually know each other but like I said before putting it into practice isn't going to be done overnight nor with one person |
| 22:02.50 | drom | And, yesterday when Wrex (Steam friend of mine) and me played civ5. He got annoyed on me and you when you came out of nowhere. But we didn't mind much about it. |
| 22:03.16 | Zmr56 | I would assume he got annoyed |
| 22:03.34 | drom | Next time when you want to join a friend, you should ask him/her if you can join the fun/party. |
| 22:03.36 | Zmr56 | But I understood and carried on playing |
| 22:03.38 | Imperios | HEY GUYS |
| 22:03.43 | drom | Hey |
| 22:03.44 | Imperios | LET'S STOP ARGUINF |
| 22:03.44 | Zmr56 | wat |
| 22:03.49 | Zmr56 | yaaay |
| 22:03.53 | Imperios | http://image01.otto.de/pool/formatz/7896428.jpg AND LOOK AT THAT PIC |
| 22:03.56 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 22:04.00 | Xho | I don't really want to stop this discussion until we've come to a resolution |
| 22:04.10 | Xho | We always stop discussions and never get anything done because of it |
| 22:04.16 | drom | Imperios: It didn't give me a boner. 0/10 |
| 22:04.17 | Zmr56 | bleh oogly womun |
| 22:04.20 | Imperios | Okay |
| 22:05.08 | Liquid_Ink | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20050420173909/memoryalpha/en/images/3/3e/NatimaLang.jpg Dis beautiful woman |
| 22:05.21 | Wormy | I much prefer alien women. |
| 22:05.25 | Imperios | How about |
| 22:05.32 | drom | Liquid_Ink: I gave me a slight boner 2/10 |
| 22:05.34 | drom | it* |
| 22:05.42 | Zmr56 | heh |
| 22:05.52 | Liquid_Ink | You gave yourself a slight erection? |
| 22:06.13 | drom | Well. You know. Chatroom grammar race. |
| 22:06.59 | Imperios | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.27 | drom | Imperios: Not enough 4/10 |
| 22:07.41 | Monet | I feel like I ruined everyone's day today because of my mouth |
| 22:07.46 | Zmr56 | 0/10 |
| 22:07.58 | Xho | Imperios: 11/10 would foreplay and ram continuously |
| 22:07.59 | Wormy | 0/10 for that one |
| 22:08.01 | Liquid_Ink | 5/10 |
| 22:08.02 | Xho | Okay forget I said that |
| 22:08.03 | Zmr56 | Monet: dun feel like dat |
| 22:08.05 | drom | Monet: You don't have to dismoralize yourself. |
| 22:08.11 | Wormy | I don't like anime style |
| 22:08.28 | Cyrannian | Monet: It was really more my fault for bringing up the human idea. |
| 22:08.41 | Wormy | No it was not anyone's fault |
| 22:08.46 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 22:08.55 | Wormy | There is obviously anxiety hidden on the wiki. |
| 22:08.58 | Hachiman | Imperios 8/10 |
| 22:09.11 | Monet | I tried to keep quiet on the Xho issue, I've tried to contain myself but it just hasn't worked. |
| 22:09.16 | Zmr56 | We all have different ways of getting our opinion across |
| 22:09.26 | Xho | That issue's only personal I'm pretty sure of that |
| 22:09.32 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 22:09.33 | Imperios | Monet: Let it go |
| 22:09.44 | Wormy | I do think the issue is far more complicated than a perceived hierarchy. |
| 22:09.50 | Monet | It really got to me with that "science is limiting" line |
| 22:09.51 | Xho | That and you switch between nice and berserk in a flash so I have no clue what to make of it |
| 22:10.35 | drom | Zmr56: Yes. When I get angry in an argument, I instead imagine a voodoo doll being brutally gibbed and stabbed. |
| 22:10.38 | Xho | Not in terms of depth whilst writing |
| 22:10.51 | Cyrannian | In a weird way, I think these sorts of discussions can be cathartic when people don't take things too seriously. |
| 22:11.11 | Xho | But if one sort of becomes heavily attached it does create problems when one looks at other things |
| 22:11.13 | Monet | I know you mean concepts or explaination |
| 22:11.33 | Imperios | Wormy: http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/043/3/1/sexy_alien_by_felsus-d5uqa8k.jpg |
| 22:11.52 | Xho | Imperios: 12/10 would BDSM |
| 22:11.53 | Liquid_Ink | 5/10 |
| 22:11.53 | Zmr56 | eeew no |
| 22:12.06 | Xho | Hey that rhymes |
| 22:12.21 | drom | Imperios: could been more |
| 22:12.22 | Monet | In a science fiction setting though, slapping "its magic" can be a bit counter-productive |
| 22:12.24 | Imperios | Xhoet |
| 22:12.37 | Wormy | less anime'ish, but I'm not disclosing my erm, feelings |
| 22:12.46 | Imperios | Yeah sure |
| 22:12.55 | drom | http://imgur.com/gallery/MMovYx4 |
| 22:13.04 | Imperios | Hot girl barrage is over, the situation is dealt with |
| 22:13.07 | Xho | I don't think I've ever said 'magic' but then again I've never explained it |
| 22:13.15 | Xho | Probably a lack of explanation there |
| 22:13.26 | Monet | Xho: According to Clarke, that's what magic is |
| 22:13.36 | Zmr56 | drom: heh |
| 22:13.36 | Xho | Well there we go |
| 22:13.39 | Xho | Unexplained science |
| 22:13.43 | Cyrannian | For example, I feel like individual Earth fiction has been taken a bit too far and I find it a bit ridiculous that there are human nation states flying around in different galaxies. It's refreshing to get that off my chest. |
| 22:13.54 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 22:14.00 | Xho | If we're all coming out with critical confessions |
| 22:14.11 | Xho | Then I want to bone Kalcedia viciously until she bleeds. There I said it |
| 22:14.13 | Monet | Xho: Yeah but you also throw around words like "demon" |
| 22:14.30 | Hachiman | Xho: No surprise there then |
| 22:14.50 | Xho | I'd say mainly that demons is just a name given by the Seven Starr Alliance and the likes |
| 22:14.52 | Wormy | My confession is, though it is pretty obvious, I don't like people using stuff, especially technology, I come up with for the DCP. It wrecks the novelty. |
| 22:15.02 | Wormy | *using my stuff |
| 22:15.08 | Liquid_Ink | Xho would just lose his flavour without demons. |
| 22:15.15 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 22:15.19 | Xho | They're just inhabitants of a pocket dimension/alternative plane of existence that have the visual characteristics of demons |
| 22:15.38 | Cyrannian | Also: I know there are people who really love their Earth fiction and users have obviously put a lot of effort into their different factions, but I completely regret starting the Division of Earth. |
| 22:15.49 | Xho | Nothing I generally do in fiction is ever made with the narrator's intention much rather than the character's collective perception of them |
| 22:15.52 | Zmr56 | Xho's deemunz are like the cornerstone of the Fictionverse |
| 22:16.19 | Xho | I never tend to look at the narrator when writing, I'd rather get past that and immerse myself in the fiction entirely |
| 22:16.27 | drom | And they take up a big plot of land. |
| 22:16.49 | Xho | Cyrannian: Would you have felt better about it if it were just limited to the Milky Way |
| 22:17.02 | Cyrannian | Absolutely. O |
| 22:17.26 | Xho | Now something I might get bollocked for is that how are humans intergalactic in 780 odd years from now |
| 22:17.33 | Xho | Never something that was explained to me |
| 22:17.49 | Imperios | Hachiman: Speaking of humans |
| 22:17.55 | Liquid_Ink | Trading with higher races. |
| 22:18.00 | Imperios | What magic do you think would Empire mages use |
| 22:18.00 | Monet | I've pondered this before but wonder if this conversation would still be happening if I had stuck to Cyrannus. I wouldn't hav ehad demons in my face so much I know that much. |
| 22:18.20 | Cyrannian | I would have felt better if we agreed that the nation state-element of the fiction is set in the past (like the 2200s) and that in modern times humanity have united. |
| 22:18.27 | Zmr56 | I dont mind demons |
| 22:18.32 | drom | Anyway. I have fixed a marine outfit for my creatures. http://i.imgur.com/suUAW2d.png |
| 22:18.33 | Imperios | Makes sense |
| 22:19.11 | Liquid_Ink | Cyrannian: It's never too late to cease fighting for revival of the Human Republic. |
| 22:19.15 | Zmr56 | I like the marines |
| 22:19.33 | Liquid_Ink | But instead of a unified nation, it'll have to be a supranational entity. |
| 22:19.43 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 22:19.48 | Xho | The way I see it, demons and the likes are similar to how Asgardians and the likes are viewed in the Marvel comic series |
| 22:20.13 | Xho | Sort of godlike/magical but just insanely advanced or alienesque |
| 22:20.43 | drom | Thanks Zmr56 |
| 22:20.48 | Cyrannian | The reason why I think the UN idea is a bunch of howey is because I believe it'll slip into the hands of a single user since most users wouldn't be interested, which is contrary to the idea of a shared humanity. |
| 22:20.53 | Zmr56 | Your welcome |
| 22:20.59 | Wormy | I don't get why we have to fight for it;s revival in the first place. It is just bad. |
| 22:21.00 | Monet | Apart from the Xhodocto, there's not much evidence that the demon races are any more sophisticated than animals. Not that we've seen anyway |
| 22:21.36 | Xho | Probably not no, mostly more biologically alien than technologically |
| 22:22.00 | Hachiman | Imperios: I'm not entirely sure |
| 22:22.07 | Xho | I mean Inferno is an empty wasteland |
| 22:22.16 | Wormy | It would be a shame if it has come to a time when we can't create fiction anymore without this. |
| 22:22.18 | Hachiman | They might be able to handle the basic -mancies |
| 22:22.45 | Monet | You've said yourself there are demon races who seem to exist to kill everything in sight, even in inferno |
| 22:22.52 | Imperios | Yeah I guess |
| 22:23.40 | Xho | Yeah |
| 22:23.47 | Xho | They're not particularly intelligent in our convention either |
| 22:24.26 | Xho | Demons are probably barely sentient in the eyes of what could exist in those realms of existence |
| 22:24.32 | Wormy | I think they are meant to be eldritch and numerous |
| 22:24.47 | Xho | Pretty much |
| 22:24.51 | Xho | Dangerous cannon fodder really |
| 22:24.59 | Wormy | As I remember |
| 22:25.13 | Xho | Chaos Monsters are just a further mindscrew of that idea |
| 22:25.25 | Xho | That sort of goes into Lovecraftian-based things |
| 22:25.41 | Xho | That really is not scientific and does delve into the realms of things that cannot be explained |
| 22:26.08 | Wormy | That is where the philosophies of our fiction clash, but I don't mind at all. |
| 22:27.25 | Xho | Yeah, I think the most open minded one can get about the things I do is that 'It clashes with everything that explicable on the wiki, but it isn't there to threaten explanation in itself' |
| 22:27.56 | Monet | In all honesty worked on those pages on Godrace mindsets and X-theory/Essence-theory to give some kind of explaination as to how this stuff could fit in a sci fi universe. |
| 22:28.49 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 22:29.03 | Monet | If I'm told there's magic and gods in fantasy, i'll accept it. if i'm told there's magic and gods in sci-fi I want explaination as to why this isn't classed as "space fantasy" |
| 22:29.19 | Monet | or explaination on the magic and gods |
| 22:29.33 | Wormy | SporeWiki Fiction Universe will never be hard or even form in grading. |
| 22:29.36 | Wormy | firm |
| 22:29.51 | Xho | It should be space fantasy really, but if an explanation can be made that everyone can agree on then I am open to that |
| 22:29.54 | Hachiman | SporeWiki combines hard and soft sci-fi imo |
| 22:30.09 | Wormy | It contains some scientific elements, but it really is a mixture |
| 22:30.13 | Zmr56 | Really I like our magic |
| 22:30.30 | Monet | I never really got much feedback on my treatises |
| 22:30.36 | Monet | SOem feedback, on occasion, but not much |
| 22:30.52 | Wormy | Considering the fiction universe is not like Orions Arm, it is not a single world-building project but an emergent thing based on everyone's styles. |
| 22:31.46 | Wormy | I wouldn't call my fiction hard either. |
| 22:32.01 | Wormy | Probably Firm at most |
| 22:33.20 | Monet | If it can be expalined in some manner, I'm okay with it, even if its through technology or principles we can only loosely understand |
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| 22:34.04 | Zmr56 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Comet_Republic#Neutral Right, I seem to have a problem with the relation faces on this |
| 22:34.22 | Zmr56 | Help would be appreciated but if you can't help I don't mind |
| 22:35.05 | Xho | Zmr56: Hell never seen that before |
| 22:36.28 | Wormy | http://archive.is/OFrTt |
| 22:36.28 | drom | Zmr56. I'll look into that for you. |
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| 22:37.15 | Wormy | My fiction is a step below "plausibly hard" but sometimes I attemnpt it |
| 22:37.47 | Zmr56 | It seems like I always get weird issues with editing strange |
| 22:38.52 | Wormy | Zmr: I've had that before |
| 22:39.05 | Wormy | It depends on how you position the faces I think |
| 22:39.48 | Zmr56 | I just copied and pasted AB's France relations and edited from there |
| 22:39.49 | Wormy | Try Bullet point > file > link instead |
| 22:40.13 | drom | Zmr56. Fixed |
| 22:40.43 | Zmr56 | kisses drom on his feet and bites a few toes off |
| 22:40.59 | Wormy | Glad I didn't fix it then. |
| 22:41.00 | drom | You were using the |left| those displaces the bullet lists. |
| 22:41.37 | drom | Do never use any align parameters when you put them in bullet lists. |
| 22:41.54 | Zmr56 | Right thanks |
| 22:41.56 | drom | And I would like have my toes back thanks. |
| 22:42.38 | Zmr56 | But...They taste like chicken... |
| 22:42.44 | Wormy | You will get them back, but they will be different. |
| 22:42.57 | Zmr56 | Okay, but I've fried them so here you go. |
| 22:43.08 | Zmr56 | That will be 9999999 rupees |
| 22:43.23 | drom | I'll be back soon |
| 22:43.31 | drom | walks through the doorway * |
| 22:43.43 | Xho | That's a fair bit of money hur |
| 22:43.55 | Xho | About $165,000 |
| 22:44.37 | drom | zmr56 http://youtu.be/zFxaCa-hr8o?t=27s |
| 22:47.49 | Zmr56 | My..my underpaid employees... |
| 22:48.06 | Zmr56 | Why...He had a wife and three kids! |
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| 22:49.47 | drom | Pah, my toes are more worth than their pitiful lives. |
| 22:50.28 | Zmr56 | Well the guy did abuse his kids anyway :P |
| 22:50.31 | Zmr56 | Hi |
| 22:50.37 | Zmr56 | Don't know why I hired him |
| 22:51.19 | Wormy | hi |
| 22:51.25 | AdmiralPanda | tackle-hugs Hachiman and Wormy through the nearest wall |
| 22:51.36 | Hachiman | <3 |
| 22:52.18 | *** join/#sporewiki Tybusen (44e45895@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.228.88.149) |
| 22:52.20 | drom | ~hug Hachiman Wormy and AdmiralPanda |
| 22:52.20 | infobot | ACTION jumps into Hachiman Wormy and AdmiralPanda's lap and huggles and *hugs* Hachiman Wormy and AdmiralPanda |
| 22:52.40 | Hachiman | hugs Tybusen, AdmiralPanda, Wormy and Hachiman |
| 22:52.54 | Tybusen | accepts the hug |
| 22:53.21 | Tybusen | I binged on Gurren Lagann and I finally finished the last episode yesterday |
| 22:53.29 | Hachiman | Yey! |
| 22:54.03 | Hachiman | Everybody binges on Gurren Lagann at some point or another hur |
| 22:54.08 | Tybusen | Poor Simon, always getting the short end of the stick |
| 22:54.10 | Hachiman | It's how I finished it and how Oluap finished it |
| 22:54.15 | Hachiman | Aye, Simon's a poor guy |
| 22:54.55 | Tybusen | Next up I'm gonna go catch up on Kill la Kill |
| 22:54.57 | drom | Good bye guys. I will be going home, back to my parents in south via train, tomorrow after the school. |
| 22:55.00 | drom | See ya. |
| 22:55.07 | Hachiman | Cya |
| 22:55.14 | Hachiman | Aye I need to watch more Kill la Kill |
| 22:55.25 | Hachiman | Last episode comes out next week |
| 22:55.46 | Tybusen | Series finale "last episode" or season finale "last episode" |
| 22:55.59 | Hachiman | Hmm not sure |
| 22:56.10 | Hachiman | You're gonna have to ask Oluap on that one |
| 22:56.19 | Hachiman | I've been getting him more and more into anime hur |
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| 22:56.54 | Zmr56 | Hi |
| 22:56.58 | Technobliterator | Well, what a shit way to end an otherwise great day. |
| 22:57.29 | AdmiralPanda | ?? |
| 22:57.35 | Zmr56 | Oh well, drama/argument/whatever stopped now |
| 22:57.39 | Technobliterator | anyone have anything to do before I start wanting to kill myself? |
| 22:57.50 | Hachiman | None |
| 22:57.59 | Hachiman | It doesn't matter anyway, we're just a wiki |
| 22:58.09 | AdmiralPanda | stop you wanting to kill yourself |
| 22:58.11 | Technobliterator | -___- |
| 22:58.44 | Hachiman | We're just a database on MediaWiki, nothing to do but inform stuff |
| 22:59.00 | Technobliterator | shut the fuck up |
| 22:59.06 | Technobliterator | you did not understand my argument at all |
| 22:59.12 | Zmr56 | o___0 |
| 22:59.19 | Hachiman | Your arguement wasn't even relevant to the matter |
| 22:59.24 | Technobliterator | yes it was |
| 22:59.32 | Hachiman | No, you just yelled at Imp |
| 22:59.35 | Technobliterator | you all startyed talking about stuff that meaned nothing |
| 22:59.37 | Technobliterator | no I did not |
| 22:59.41 | Technobliterator | I corrected his mistake |
| 23:00.02 | Tek0516Droid | Let's not start an argument about the argument |
| 23:00.03 | Zmr56 | Please not another argument |
| 23:00.04 | Hachiman | You yelled at Imp and made out everyone else was an idiot |
| 23:00.27 | Hachiman | "Why am I the only one who can code it's not that hard" "Why am I the only one who knows what a wiki is" |
| 23:00.44 | Xho | Oh god not again |
| 23:01.26 | Xho | Hell I didn't even get that drink in the end |
| 23:01.28 | Xho | Look what you made me do |
| 23:01.32 | Tek0516Droid | Please, we're all tired of this |
| 23:01.32 | Xho | I had to endure that sober |
| 23:01.37 | Xho | SOBER DAMMIT |
| 23:01.51 | Technobliterator | [23:00] <Hachiman> "Why am I the only one who can code it's not that hard" "Why am I the only one who knows what a wiki is" |
| 23:02.00 | Technobliterator | why don't you try being the only one who is for the day |
| 23:02.03 | Technobliterator | won't that be fun? |
| 23:02.09 | Hachiman | If it's not hard train somebody else |
| 23:02.20 | Technobliterator | no |
| 23:02.28 | Technobliterator | it is IMPOSSIBLE to train someone, I told you a million fucking times |
| 23:02.33 | Technobliterator | and no one is even interested |
| 23:02.47 | Xho | Okay why are you being annoying all of a sudden |
| 23:02.58 | Tek0516Droid | That's it, I'm leaving. |
| 23:03.07 | *** part/#sporewiki Tek0516Droid (~TekDroid@CPE0026f31ad308-CM0026f31ad305.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:03.11 | Zmr56 | Just please not argue godamnit to damnation |
| 23:03.21 | Xho | Oh what a day |
| 23:03.22 | Zmr56 | We had a nice period of calmness |
| 23:03.46 | Technobliterator | could it be because I'm ill, pissed off, pissed off at this wiki, pissed off at the shitty people who play dota, and pissed off at life in general? |
| 23:03.50 | Technobliterator | could it possibly be because of that? |
| 23:04.01 | Technobliterator | and could it be that when I return someone has to bring this bullshit up again? |
| 23:04.19 | Hachiman | You shouldn't have been screaming at us in the first place |
| 23:04.20 | Technobliterator | and could it be because I hate being the only one with some fucking sense around here who gets no credit for FUCKING ONCE?! |
| 23:04.21 | Xho | Says the person who's reflecting their own problems on a community who will reciprocate it |
| 23:04.44 | Xho | And Dota |
| 23:04.45 | AdmiralPanda | ok i'm out |
| 23:04.45 | Xho | Well |
| 23:04.48 | Xho | Don't get me started |
| 23:04.49 | *** part/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda (~anonymous@103.21.134.111) |
| 23:04.49 | Technobliterator | not ONE bit of credit, not fucking any credit for all the shit that you guys couldn't be bothered to do. |
| 23:04.59 | Technobliterator | sighs |
| 23:05.05 | Hachiman | It's not we can't be bothered; we DON'T. KNOW. |
| 23:05.08 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Wormy] by Cyrannian |
| 23:05.08 | *** part/#sporewiki Cyrannian (5f2c5c07@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.44.92.7) |
| 23:05.13 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 23:05.14 | Hachiman | And you REFUSE to try to train somebody |
| 23:05.33 | Technobliterator | no |
| 23:05.34 | Hachiman | So what you have done is landed yourself in an endless cycle |
| 23:05.36 | Technobliterator | you cannot be bothered |
| 23:05.39 | Technobliterator | because if you could |
| 23:05.40 | Xho | That and fortifying any of your claims with a video game in the chat leaves me zero sympathy |
| 23:05.40 | Angrydroid | Guys. It's not worth it. |
| 23:05.42 | Technobliterator | you would go learn it |
| 23:05.43 | Technobliterator | just like I did |
| 23:05.50 | Zmr56 | We're not saying DO IT RITE NAO |
| 23:05.58 | Technobliterator | also |
| 23:06.02 | Xho | No, it really isn't worth it |
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| 23:06.08 | Zmr56 | Even just some bloody advice |
| 23:06.36 | Xho | Technobliterator: Okay how did you learn it then |
| 23:06.51 | Zmr56 | Goadmnit I'm gonna look at this coding shiz myself |
| 23:07.12 | Technobliterator | what do you mean how did I learn it |
| 23:07.21 | Xho | "[23:05] <Technobliterator> you would go learn it [23:05] <Technobliterator> just like I did" |
| 23:07.22 | Technobliterator | you just figure out what this shit does |
| 23:07.23 | Technobliterator | then do it |
| 23:07.30 | Technobliterator | there is nothing to it |
| 23:07.40 | Zmr56 | Well somehow you found about coding from somewhere |
| 23:08.15 | Technobliterator | how did you learn how to make links |
| 23:08.22 | Technobliterator | because you saw that [[link]] works |
| 23:08.25 | Technobliterator | it is exactly the same thing |
| 23:09.23 | Cyrannian | Everyone needs to calm down. Take this somewhere else. |
| 23:09.58 | Xho | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/720/062/dd4.gif My reaction to this entire discussion |
| 23:10.13 | Hachiman | I always thumbs up Clint Eastwood |
| 23:10.41 | Wormy | Programming is something you have to be interested to learn in the first place. That's what attracted me to wiki's, though I admit, I haven't coded in a long time. |
| 23:11.12 | Wormy | Except programming on the current degree |
| 23:11.15 | Technobliterator | + |
| 23:11.34 | Wormy | I'm starting to learn programming now |
| 23:11.37 | Technobliterator | it takes bloody ages to be even decent at doing it at an advanced level |
| 23:11.42 | Technobliterator | what languages are you learning? |
| 23:11.47 | Wormy | for websites and science simulations |
| 23:12.07 | Hachiman | So basically you're mad at the rest of the community because we don't know something you do |
| 23:12.16 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 23:12.26 | Hachiman | Something that's complex to learn by what you're saying |
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| 23:12.52 | Wormy | Stuff in Dreamweaver like HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Dreamweaver#Features |
| 23:12.55 | Zmr56 | Obviously, if we knew how to code it would bebfit us too |
| 23:13.02 | Xho | TekDroid: We're still not done with this convo hur |
| 23:13.10 | Wormy | And programming javar eventually (and hopefully) |
| 23:13.15 | Technobliterator | no |
| 23:13.22 | TekDroid | And goodbye again. |
| 23:13.26 | Wormy | Programming in Maya and UDK too |
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| 23:13.51 | Technobliterator | stop bringing this argument back up again if you don't even understand what you're talking about yourself |
| 23:13.51 | Xho | Xho: Saving lives since 1 minute ago |
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| 23:14.03 | Technobliterator | yeah, and another guy comes back to his doom |
| 23:14.10 | Hachiman | I don't even understand what your angry about |
| 23:14.15 | Xho | you're* |
| 23:14.16 | Xho | NSDJASHFHSDGF |
| 23:14.18 | Hachiman | fuk u |
| 23:14.20 | Xho | NOH |
| 23:14.25 | Hachiman | fuk me |
| 23:14.42 | Xho | That's better |
| 23:14.45 | Zmr56 | wat |
| 23:15.00 | Technobliterator | don't ask what I'm angry about on the channel |
| 23:15.03 | Technobliterator | this discussion is over |
| 23:15.06 | Technobliterator | on this channel |
| 23:15.06 | Zmr56 | Good |
| 23:15.20 | Xho | The bottom line is, the fact you're pissed off and won't talk about it means we don't care |
| 23:15.21 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Technobliterator] by ChanServ |
| 23:15.29 | Wormy | I'm still doing physics and geology, its just that programming and 3D is a good component and an employable skill and I seem to like them as hobbies here anyway. |
| 23:15.56 | Wormy | So I'll ve making physics sims and geological maps of my fieldwork |
| 23:16.00 | Technobliterator | I've talked about the problem relevant to you many times, it's just that no one cares. I guess I'm expecting too much of everyone else or somethin |
| 23:16.01 | Technobliterator | g |
| 23:16.21 | Xho | If it's the problem where no one is paying you any attention |
| 23:16.33 | Xho | Then perhaps you should do something that attracts people's attention |
| 23:16.40 | Technobliterator | here's the thing |
| 23:17.13 | Hachiman | We are grateful that you code and program for us, and there has been a lot of interest in your fiction whether you like to believe it or not, so I don't understand why you're angry at us |
| 23:17.21 | Technobliterator | I don't care if no one else wants to learn anything, even on big wikis it's rare that no one learns anything |
| 23:17.29 | Technobliterator | yeah, except you're not grateful |
| 23:17.34 | Xho | Oh dear lord |
| 23:17.45 | Technobliterator | I mean |
| 23:17.46 | Hachiman | Get off your high horse |
| 23:18.06 | Technobliterator | even on big wikis, it's rare that everyone is a genious or whatever, no one is other than like 2-3 wikis |
| 23:18.18 | Hachiman | So you're calling yourself a genius now |
| 23:18.26 | Hachiman | Or you're just calling everybody else an idiot |
| 23:18.38 | Technobliterator | hell, the FFwiki has about 5 times more activity than I am, and I'm still considered one of the 3 best coders on the wiki |
| 23:18.51 | Xho | So both then |
| 23:18.55 | Technobliterator | well, if you're more clever than me, write me a template or two |
| 23:19.09 | Xho | Thanks now I know where I stand with you Jo |
| 23:19.14 | Technobliterator | ? |
| 23:19.15 | Xho | Calling us an idiot |
| 23:19.18 | Technobliterator | I never called any of you idiots |
| 23:19.26 | Hachiman | You're VERY heavily implying it |
| 23:19.27 | Technobliterator | and I have never considered any of you idiots |
| 23:19.28 | Xho | "[23:18] <@Technobliterator> well, if you're more clever than me, write me a template or two" |
| 23:19.32 | Xho | Then don't write pretentious language then |
| 23:19.44 | Technobliterator | that wasn't what I was saying |
| 23:19.52 | Wormy | You are very passionate about coding, I think that is the crucial difference. I lost my passion for it, but I'm regaining it on my degree so I'll help if you give me a heads up. |
| 23:20.22 | Wormy | Though because of that gap, you have long since exceeded my abilities |
| 23:20.40 | Wormy | So you might need to show me how as well. |
| 23:20.44 | Xho | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/705/121/106.gif This is also a good gif for this discussion |
| 23:20.56 | Technobliterator | what I was saying was: if I am wrong here, if I am the one who is incorrect, then why was it me who made 90% of the templates you use, and not you? |
| 23:20.57 | Hachiman | She won't Wormy because it's impossible to show somebody |
| 23:21.07 | Technobliterator | am I calling myself some child prodigy genius? no |
| 23:21.19 | Xho | Well how is it our fault if it's impossible to show us what's right then |
| 23:21.20 | Technobliterator | am I calling everyone else a dumbass lazy person? no |
| 23:21.31 | Wormy | My passion is growing, and in my opinion, its passion that ca get you into programming. |
| 23:21.31 | Hachiman | Umm |
| 23:21.34 | Technobliterator | am I telling you all to go and learn something in 3 days? no |
| 23:21.37 | Hachiman | You just said everybody "couldn't be bothered" |
| 23:21.40 | Hachiman | And thus lazy |
| 23:22.02 | Technobliterator | am I implying otherwise? well, maybe, but that's beside the point |
| 23:22.17 | Xho | Alright |
| 23:22.19 | Xho | Here's the deal |
| 23:22.29 | Xho | Shut up before someone gets kicked |
| 23:22.30 | Technobliterator | am I asking for, y'know, the slightest bit of credit and the slightest bit of acknowledgement that maybe, JUST maybe, I might know what I'm talking about? ...yes? |
| 23:22.44 | Xho | Yes you know what you're talking about |
| 23:22.51 | Tybusen | You don't think we already give you credit? |
| 23:23.01 | Xho | But asking for gratitude is really not the right thing to say |
| 23:23.19 | Technobliterator | it feels that way |
| 23:23.32 | Tybusen | I'm absolutely grateful for the help that you gave me in fixing the TIAF fictionbox |
| 23:23.42 | Hachiman | Are you dismissing the fact we provided feedback before when you did do stuff for us? Yet |
| 23:23.44 | Hachiman | yes* |
| 23:23.47 | Xho | I am not thanked for effectively creating the fiction universe nor is Wormy for actually starting anything before that, nor was the guy who created the Oimonsk whose name I forgot |
| 23:23.54 | Xho | Bah that's bad of me |
| 23:24.03 | Technobliterator | yeah, except you are though |
| 23:24.06 | Zmr56 | Do you know how much you've contributed to the wiki? You've done a lot here and I think we wouldn't be here without you. |
| 23:24.12 | Xho | Not really |
| 23:24.17 | Technobliterator | you're given way more respect than me |
| 23:24.22 | Xho | Not really |
| 23:24.27 | Hachiman | I doubt that |
| 23:24.43 | Technobliterator | well...it definitely feels like everyone's more aware of your contributions than they are of mine |
| 23:25.06 | Hachiman | I'll say that I couldn't do what you did for the wiki, that's a given if you wanted to read that from somebody else |
| 23:25.12 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 23:25.27 | Technobliterator | to me, or to xho? |
| 23:25.30 | Hachiman | You |
| 23:25.34 | Hachiman | And Xho, effectively |
| 23:25.37 | Tybusen | Working behind the scenes can be a thankless job at times, and that's something you accept when you do a behind-the-scenes job |
| 23:25.53 | Tybusen | But just because we don't outwardly say we're grateful doesn't mean we're not grateful |
| 23:25.55 | Xho | Bah leave me alone and masturbate to hentai |
| 23:25.56 | Hachiman | But I'm not going to breastfeed you. I will give you an opinion and some feedback, but I'm not going to treat you like you're my god or some shit like that |
| 23:26.07 | Technobliterator | when did I ever ask for that |
| 23:26.26 | Hachiman | The fact you dismissed prior feedback and opinions and demanded more respect |
| 23:26.33 | Technobliterator | no |
| 23:26.38 | Xho | 22 minutes ago |
| 23:26.39 | Technobliterator | I am not demanding more expect |
| 23:26.56 | Technobliterator | what I am demanding is that you at least listen to me in discussions about what a wiki is |
| 23:27.15 | Xho | We know what a wiki is in a substantive definition |
| 23:27.39 | Technobliterator | it is literally just a website that runs on MediaWiki |
| 23:27.41 | Hachiman | Sounds like you need to learn what a community is if you're so easy to dismiss it for what the basic site is |
| 23:27.42 | Technobliterator | that is all there is to it |
| 23:28.02 | Xho | Oh hell this reminds me of 2010 |
| 23:28.05 | Xho | Except less caps |
| 23:28.10 | Xho | And better lexis |
| 23:28.11 | Hachiman | hur |
| 23:28.18 | Technobliterator | 2010 was the worst year ever |
| 23:28.19 | Wormy | SporeWiki will never not be a wiki, but then, as a community, oit does seem to run differently. There is no standard community. |
| 23:28.46 | Technobliterator | running differently from wikipedia means nothing |
| 23:28.55 | Technobliterator | running differently from wookiepedia means nothing |
| 23:28.55 | Xho | It does to the user |
| 23:29.05 | Technobliterator | but not to anything else |
| 23:29.07 | Wormy | I'm thinking of it like a writeable disc. |
| 23:29.10 | Hachiman | You know, you certainly reflect your fiction |
| 23:29.17 | Hachiman | Morale-less and uncaring |
| 23:29.19 | Zmr56 | This is a community where I come to expect myself to be warmly welcomed by people I can collaborate with on something I enjoy. |
| 23:29.24 | Wormy | The disc holds all the laws for how the programs run |
| 23:29.26 | Xho | So, what does the wiki mean then |
| 23:29.31 | Technobliterator | I told you |
| 23:29.33 | Xho | A user makes a wiki in most respects |
| 23:29.35 | Wormy | But the programs can be as varied as you like |
| 23:29.35 | Technobliterator | a site that runs on mediawiki |
| 23:29.41 | Technobliterator | that is all it means |
| 23:29.44 | Zmr56 | ... |
| 23:29.45 | Tybusen | Is that all there is to a Wiki? |
| 23:29.48 | Technobliterator | yes |
| 23:29.49 | Xho | Anything else is irrelevant in a subjective definition |
| 23:29.51 | Technobliterator | all there is to it |
| 23:29.56 | Technobliterator | just that because of wikipedia |
| 23:29.57 | Zmr56 | . . . |
| 23:30.03 | Technobliterator | it is somehow associated as something different |
| 23:30.03 | Xho | Oh man |
| 23:30.06 | Xho | The lack of communication |
| 23:30.07 | Hachiman | So the people behind it, that work it, mean nothing |
| 23:30.11 | Xho | Makes me want to commit mass homicide |
| 23:30.22 | Hachiman | Or organize a mass suicide |
| 23:30.28 | Hachiman | Not including yourself, of course |
| 23:30.32 | Xho | That would be easier physically yes |
| 23:30.41 | Xho | "Mass suicide" |
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| 23:30.43 | Tybusen | So a Wiki is just a big mass of code floating in the internet, people had nothing to do with it, community had nothing to do with it? |
| 23:30.52 | Xho | Because everyone randomly knifed themselves |
| 23:30.57 | Zmr56 | wat |
| 23:30.57 | Wormy | TekDroid: Now is still not a good time. |
| 23:31.03 | TekDroid | Still not donem |
| 23:31.03 | Zmr56 | Knifing is boring |
| 23:31.07 | TekDroid | *done? |
| 23:31.13 | Zmr56 | I wish we were done |
| 23:31.14 | Xho | Zmr56: If it's in mass numbers it's the easiest |
| 23:31.27 | TekDroid | Goodbye again. |
| 23:31.32 | Xho | I know what Jo means by what a wiki means |
| 23:31.33 | Zmr56 | Goobye |
| 23:31.36 | Wormy | Bye bye |
| 23:31.43 | Zmr56 | Have a nice day unlike us |
| 23:31.55 | TekDroid | I'm tired of this. |
| 23:32.03 | Zmr56 | I don't think most of us want to argue |
| 23:32.07 | Xho | But if there's no such thing as a community in which we work on then Jo is missing the fact that the wiki we work on we view differently to the aims of another |
| 23:32.16 | Angrybirds_droid | Wikipedia has a great policy called "Assume good faith," which is basically what the title means. I think we could benefit from such a policy. |
| 23:32.30 | Hachiman | That IS one of our policies |
| 23:32.31 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 23:32.36 | Wormy | Erm, we admins do |
| 23:32.52 | Wormy | It is you who is not assuming good faith, regarding your comments |
| 23:32.52 | Xho | So yeah, subjectively every wiki has an aim |
| 23:33.02 | Xho | Be it inform, or collaborate |
| 23:33.10 | Hachiman | Or both |
| 23:33.12 | Xho | Or both |
| 23:33.13 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 23:33.34 | Angrybirds_droid | Wormy: I am assuming good faith. I never said anything was any fault of your own. |
| 23:33.34 | Hachiman | And no matter what anybody says, unless it's ran by machines, a community is important to eitehr |
| 23:33.37 | Hachiman | *eitehr |
| 23:33.46 | Angrybirds_droid | Nor do I think it is. |
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| 23:34.06 | Wormy | Angrybirds_droid: You assume we admins don't know or don't care about this problem, that is what I mean |
| 23:34.06 | Zmr56 | I dun want to evun talk bout dis shi |
| 23:34.11 | Tecnhodroid | Welp, my wifi expired. |
| 23:34.16 | Xho | If a wiki didn't have an aim then what's the point in having a wiki |
| 23:34.21 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 23:34.40 | Xho | Most things are made with an aim in mind and if it isn't it's called a folly for a reason |
| 23:34.45 | Tecnhodroid | I just cane on to say goodnight, and I don't really want to discuss this again. |
| 23:34.51 | Zmr56 | Good |
| 23:34.53 | Angrybirds_droid | Wormy: You were actively arguing against the fact that it is. What other conclusion could I draw? |
| 23:35.09 | Wormy | [21:58] <Angrybirds> Wormy: And don't proactively work against it. [21:58] <Wormy> But we do acknowledge, we know it exists, but people who perceieve us as such are just as much at fault.. <Wormy> I created it this ages ago to try and solve this problem. Did anybody comment? No... http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:New_issues?t=20130201200316 |
| 23:35.13 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.24 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.31 | Tecnhodroid | Yes, there is a point in making a wiki. But there is a point in making any website. |
| 23:35.44 | Hachiman | But you said a wiki had no aim/goal |
| 23:35.49 | Angrybirds_droid | Alright. I missed those messages. |
| 23:35.54 | Tecnhodroid | No I didn't |
| 23:35.55 | Angrybirds_droid | My bad. |
| 23:36.02 | Hachiman | Yes. You did. |
| 23:36.04 | Wormy | You timed out |
| 23:36.11 | Xho | [21:52] <Technobliterator> there is NO goal. |
| 23:36.18 | Tecnhodroid | No, fucking let me explain before typing |
| 23:36.30 | Wormy | But anyway, I actually care very much asbout the problem and I have known about it for a long time |
| 23:36.47 | Wormy | I even have theories as to why it is happening |
| 23:36.55 | Angrybirds_droid | Alright, I'm glad to hear it. |
| 23:36.57 | Tecnhodroid | I said that having a 'goal' is not exclusive to it being a wiki |
| 23:37.07 | Angrybirds_droid | What are the theories? |
| 23:37.10 | Tecnhodroid | Nor is it relevant in any way |
| 23:37.16 | Wormy | On that forum |
| 23:37.20 | Wormy | And quite frankly Angrybirds, you have upset me today. |
| 23:37.47 | Xho | OH GOD EVERYONE'S A FUCKING IDIOT TODAY BE FUCKING NICE TO EACH OTHER AND SHUT THE FUCKING FUCK UP |
| 23:37.51 | Angrybirds_droid | I'm sorry, that wasn't my intention. |
| 23:37.55 | Xho | THAT'S ALL THERE FUCKING IS TO IT |
| 23:38.01 | Zmr56 | Quite frankly almost everyone has had a bad day |
| 23:38.03 | Wormy | I and Cyrannian propose a new fiction, and you start ranting and attacking Cyrannian especially. |
| 23:38.09 | Wormy | Why? |
| 23:38.14 | Hachiman | You know what, I'm just gonna give |
| 23:38.15 | Hachiman | This arguement has tired me out and I wish I'd listen to Oluap/Xho's advice to stay out |
| 23:38.21 | Tecnhodroid | Wouldn't it be great if we could eh |
| 23:38.23 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 23:38.38 | Cyrannian | http://replygif.net/i/1294.gif |
| 23:38.42 | Xho | My advice is generally good advice unless it's bad advice...then it's bad advice |
| 23:38.43 | Tecnhodroid | us human beings being imperfect is all |
| 23:39.09 | Xho | Right |
| 23:39.14 | Xho | Here's where I draw the line |
| 23:39.17 | Xho | Any more argumentative chat |
| 23:39.30 | Tecnhodroid | there is no more. |
| 23:39.34 | Wormy | You talk about feeling marginalised, but how often do you comment on other user's work, I hardly see it. And everybody I remember wanted to get involved with Katar, but you vetoed it |
| 23:39.35 | Xho | Oh hell what can I do I'm on a freaking computer |
| 23:39.41 | Wormy | I don't see why you are blaming us |
| 23:39.51 | Angrybirds_droid | Wormy: As I told Cyrannian earlier, I have the utmost respect for him and his fiction. I wasn't assuming this was a conscious process instigated by any of us. |
| 23:39.57 | Tybusen | Wormy: That entire UN compromising thing we had was to reconcile the two states that we had into a single state, but with the new thing you're proposing it looks like you're going over all of our heads |
| 23:40.05 | Tecnhodroid | Because I am done discussing, I already made my point |
| 23:40.26 | Wormy | I'm sorry about being blunt, I don't want to cause a problem with you. I don't like upsetting people or arguing with them. |
| 23:40.34 | Zmr56 | ^ |
| 23:40.37 | Xho | So, from what I've learnt today, we all seem to secretly hate each other |
| 23:40.39 | Tecnhodroid | welp, I guess everyone hates my guts now... |
| 23:40.44 | Zmr56 | Not me, |
| 23:40.50 | Wormy | But I also think I should be clear how I feel for once |
| 23:40.50 | Zmr56 | I don't hate anyone |
| 23:41.11 | Zmr56 | We're all good people most of the time |
| 23:41.12 | Xho | All I am saying is that people should be nicer to each other and the wiki would be in better integrity |
| 23:41.24 | Zmr56 | We just have dumb days |
| 23:41.46 | Tecnhodroid | no, I just made the entire community hate me |
| 23:42.05 | Tecnhodroid | Oh god...it's happening. The curse |
| 23:42.13 | Tybusen | Tecnhodroid: Nonsense, I still like you just as much as before |
| 23:42.21 | Xho | Well you did kind of say we were lazy idiots who couldn't code and then deny us of any knowledge of coding since it was too hard to code |
| 23:42.24 | Xho | Wasn't your finest moment |
| 23:42.48 | Xho | I just really want to do something |
| 23:42.51 | Xho | Nice for once |
| 23:42.58 | Xho | Without criticism |
| 23:43.05 | Hachiman | Are you sure you're not drunk |
| 23:43.07 | Tecnhodroid | Yeah, the curse is happening to me, I thought it wouldn't, I really did think I could escape it |
| 23:43.15 | Tecnhodroid | But I can't |
| 23:43.16 | Xho | There's no glass in front of me |
| 23:43.21 | Xho | So no I'm sober |
| 23:43.22 | Xho | Still |
| 23:43.24 | Zmr56 | We all have our fallings out |
| 23:43.52 | Zmr56 | Hopefully we forget this happens in the next day |
| 23:43.58 | Tecnhodroid | It's the classic wiki case, anyone who becomes a real wiki designer becomes an elitist prick that no one likes as well |
| 23:44.07 | Tecnhodroid | Oh god...what have I done |
| 23:44.17 | Xho | WELCOME BACK TO SANITY JO |
| 23:44.23 | Hachiman | olol |
| 23:44.47 | Tecnhodroid | it fucking...I really thought it wouldn't, I thought I could buck this trend... |
| 23:44.50 | Tecnhodroid | :'( |
| 23:45.36 | Xho | I think you just had a withdrawal symptom of some sorts |
| 23:45.41 | Xho | notmakingenoughsandwiches |
| 23:45.46 | Xho | Anyway |
| 23:45.48 | Tecnhodroid | well it's too late now, everyone is pissed off with me |
| 23:45.54 | Cyrannian | I don't have a problem with you. |
| 23:46.00 | Xho | Well considering you kind of just switched personalities |
| 23:46.02 | Xho | I |
| 23:46.07 | Xho | Am going to get drunk now brb |
| 23:46.12 | Hachiman | olol |
| 23:46.13 | Xho | Had enough with lucidity for one day |
| 23:46.26 | Cyrannian | I was/am just as manically pissed off as you. |
| 23:46.52 | Zmr56 | And it seems like I'm the only one who never seems to hate anyone... |
| 23:46.53 | Tecnhodroid | I'd apologise but it would be meaningless, no one would accept it |
| 23:47.00 | Hachiman | I woukd |
| 23:47.02 | Zmr56 | Apart from Spartian300 |
| 23:47.02 | Hachiman | *would |
| 23:47.04 | Hachiman | I've been worse |
| 23:47.14 | Hachiman | And I brought up the argument needlessly |
| 23:47.25 | Tecnhodroid | oh god...my time powers would really come in handy right now |
| 23:47.35 | Zmr56 | They would |
| 23:47.37 | Hachiman | cuddles Tecnhodroid |
| 23:47.39 | Tecnhodroid | TOO BAD THEYRE FAKE |
| 23:47.48 | Tecnhodroid | cuddles back |
| 23:48.11 | Tybusen | hugs both Hachiman and Tecnhodroid |
| 23:48.15 | Tecnhodroid | apologise to imp when he's not on, if I did actually offend him |
| 23:48.16 | Zmr56 | cuddles as well but is crushed |
| 23:48.18 | Tybusen | Group hug |
| 23:48.25 | Tecnhodroid | group hugs |
| 23:48.27 | Zmr56 | Can't br...ee... |
| 23:48.37 | Jepardi | Meanwhile Ose and I were just sitting here quietly throughout this whole affair |
| 23:48.53 | Tecnhodroid | oh yeah |
| 23:48.55 | Hachiman | Jepardi we really needed you |
| 23:48.58 | Hachiman | To post a funny pic |
| 23:49.00 | Hachiman | Or two |
| 23:49.02 | Tecnhodroid | if he was still active |
| 23:49.12 | Tecnhodroid | this argument would not even be a thing |
| 23:49.18 | Tecnhodroid | xD |
| 23:49.30 | Xho | Okay I'm back |
| 23:49.32 | Xho | And tipsy |
| 23:49.40 | Tecnhodroid | how drunk? |
| 23:49.43 | Wormy | Technodroid: You was cursed? |
| 23:49.44 | Xho | Tipsy |
| 23:49.58 | Xho | I have a 2.5x whiskey here so I'm good |
| 23:50.37 | Tecnhodroid | Wormy: the classic wiki designer curse; most people who become active template designers also become elitist assholes |
| 23:50.43 | Tecnhodroid | and I did just that today |
| 23:50.46 | Wormy | i see |
| 23:51.00 | Jepardi | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aD0QYOw_460s.jpg |
| 23:51.05 | Xho | Well I finished that rather quickly |
| 23:51.10 | Hachiman | ohgod |
| 23:51.17 | Tecnhodroid | it happened on FFwiki too, but that guy didn't acknowledge his mistake |
| 23:51.35 | Hachiman | I'm seeing so many jokes about the Malaysia flight incident |
| 23:51.56 | Tecnhodroid | in fact I don't think there is any wiki that hasn't had that happen |
| 23:52.26 | Wormy | I find jokes about it sickening |
| 23:52.34 | Tecnhodroid | welp I feel stupid as fuck |
| 23:52.40 | Wormy | In fact hackers are behind the Bermuda triangle one |
| 23:52.57 | Hachiman | I thought it was to do with magnetics and such? |
| 23:53.04 | Wormy | Don't worry, most of us made a fool of ourselves |
| 23:53.10 | Tecnhodroid | Jokes about Kony were worse |
| 23:53.30 | TekDroid | Brb. Internet issues, restarting phone. |
| 23:53.50 | Hachiman | Kony jokes are childish |
| 23:54.02 | Wormy | I should have been more civil myself |
| 23:54.35 | Xho | Well when you said that I felt compelled to make a Kony joke on Twitter |
| 23:54.41 | Xho | "OH HEY GUYS #Kony2014" |
| 23:54.51 | Tecnhodroid | you weren't a pretentious douche |
| 23:54.56 | Tecnhodroid | so you are fine |
| 23:55.22 | Xho | HE'S JUST A POOR BOY FROM A POOR FAMILY SPARE HIM HIS LIFE FROM THIS MONSTROSITY |
| 23:55.29 | Hachiman | olol |
| 23:55.36 | Hachiman | Yep Xho's drunk |
| 23:55.43 | Tecnhodroid | Queen <3 |
| 23:55.48 | Cyrannian | EASY COME EASY GO |
| 23:55.52 | Xho | BISMILLAH NOOOOOO WE WILL NOT LET YOU GO LET HIM GOOOOO |
| 23:56.03 | Tecnhodroid | MAMA MIA MAMA MIA |
| 23:56.12 | Xho | NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO |
| 23:56.17 | Tecnhodroid | MAMA MIA LET ME GO |
| 23:56.24 | *** join/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda (~anonymous@103.21.134.111) |
| 23:56.29 | *** join/#sporewiki TekDroid (~TekDroid@CPE0026f31ad308-CM0026f31ad305.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:56.37 | Tecnhodroid | BEEZLEBUB HAS THE DEVIL PUT ASIDE FOR ME...FOR ME...FOR MEEEEEEE |
| 23:56.39 | Hachiman | They're singing Queen |
| 23:56.42 | Tybusen | Everyone's drunk now |
| 23:56.44 | Tybusen | So it's all right |
| 23:56.46 | Tybusen | It's safe |
| 23:56.52 | AdmiralPanda | lol |
| 23:56.52 | Tecnhodroid | *insert guitar solo here* |
| 23:56.56 | Xho | SO YOU THINK YOU CAN STONE ME AND SPIT IN MY EYE |
| 23:57.16 | Tecnhodroid | SO YOU THINK YOU CAN STONE ME AND LEAVE ME TO DIIIIE* |
| 23:57.17 | Tecnhodroid | ? |
| 23:57.23 | Xho | OHHHHHHHHHHH BABY |
| 23:57.26 | Zmr56 | He's drunk |
| 23:57.33 | Zmr56 | Very drunk |
| 23:57.36 | Tecnhodroid | CANT DO THIS TO ME BABYYY |
| 23:57.45 | Jepardi | Absolutely wasted |
| 23:57.50 | Zmr56 | ohgod |
| 23:58.01 | Xho | JUST GOTTA GET OUT JUST GOTTA GET RIGHT OUTTA HERE |
| 23:58.19 | Tecnhodroid | *insert guitar solo* |
| 23:58.24 | Zmr56 | I just have no idea |
| 23:58.42 | Tecnhodroid | *insert piano and guitar slow bit* |
| 23:58.59 | Jepardi | Relates to this http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aM1vzdX_700b_v2.jpg |
| 23:59.03 | Tecnhodroid | Nothing really matters...anyone can see |
| 23:59.09 | Zmr56 | starts spazzing arms around violently and hits many people in the face |
| 23:59.12 | Xho | NOTHING REALLY MATTERS, NO NOTHING REALLY MATTERS, TO MEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 23:59.23 | Wormy | Right me and Angrybirds have made up |
| 23:59.27 | Tecnhodroid | *song ends* |
| 23:59.32 | Tecnhodroid | that was cool |
| 23:59.33 | Xho | FUCK ME THIS ICE IS COLD |
| 23:59.39 | Wormy | I'm glad there was a peaceful conclusion |
