| 00:01.39 | DrodoEmpire | Nice. |
| 00:01.47 | Monet | Lucky |
| 00:05.06 | TekDroid | Lucky indeed |
| 00:06.06 | dromlexer | m8 |
| 00:06.54 | dromlexer | Made a colony aircraft, http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140228000527/spore/images/2/21/Naakjiinterspector.png |
| 00:08.09 | TekDroid | Cool. I must say I do like your vehicle models. |
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| 00:08.45 | dromlexer | Thanks. |
| 00:09.09 | Monet | they're very interesting designs yeah, sleek, economic but advanced |
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| 00:14.38 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
| 00:15.13 | dromlexer | mumbling "fucking cunt m8" again and again over time. I would fix a golden medal with that slogan for me. |
| 00:15.14 | dromlexer | hi |
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| 00:16.52 | Monet | SHould have mentioned this earlier |
| 00:17.14 | Monet | Not going ot be here saturday, and i'm going ot be busy tomorrow too |
| 00:21.37 | AdmiralPanda | What are you doing that will have you so busy Monet |
| 00:22.02 | Monet | Packing |
| 00:22.39 | Monet | saturday i'm going to be subject to a 3 1/2 hour car ride back to my home county |
| 00:24.21 | AdmiralPanda | solid |
| 00:24.26 | AdmiralPanda | where are you currently? |
| 00:24.39 | Monet | Kent |
| 00:26.33 | AdmiralPanda | for a moment there I thought you were saying something entirely different :'Straya: |
| 00:26.42 | AdmiralPanda | I've been using : : a lot recently |
| 00:28.57 | dromlexer | Kentucky? |
| 00:29.14 | Monet | No just Kent |
| 00:29.44 | dromlexer | A city in mercia? |
| 00:29.58 | Monet | Its a county in England |
| 00:30.19 | dromlexer | Oh. I heard of a place named by that, but I never knew what it was. |
| 00:34.12 | TekDroid | It is freaking cold and the teachers and bus drivers are late |
| 00:34.24 | TekDroid | And my hamd is freezing |
| 00:34.38 | DrodoEmpire | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercia - It might be in Mercia, Drom. |
| 00:34.39 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 00:35.06 | DrodoEmpire | Tek: Oh my god, I HATE it when my hand starts to freeze. D: |
| 00:35.16 | DrodoEmpire | Its like it gets so cold it burns |
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| 01:41.08 | DrodoEmpire | http://johndiogenous-canada.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/john-diogenous-canada-toronto-info-3.jpg |
| 01:42.59 | TekDroid | -.- |
| 01:45.22 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/PmFFXQP.png - I've actually done things like this before. XD |
| 01:54.19 | dromlexer | Canadians in a nutshell. |
| 01:55.01 | DrodoEmpire | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao_dao - So this sword was used by the Chinese up until the end of the second World War. 0.0 |
| 01:55.22 | DrodoEmpire | About the end of it, a little earlier (I think) |
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| 02:12.00 | TekDroid | DrodoEmpire: I've actually been told by my parents to say sorry less. XD |
| 02:12.10 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
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| 02:31.42 | AdmiralPanda | I should probably start work on the faction page for my latest fic attempt |
| 02:31.49 | AdmiralPanda | even though details are sparce |
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| 05:13.54 | OfficerJackal | Hello! |
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| 05:18.20 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
| 05:23.01 | OfficerJackal | Hey! |
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| 05:49.08 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
| 05:51.03 | Angrybirds | Hey! |
| 05:51.31 | Angrybirds | AdmiralPanda : Have you seen my character pictures? ^.^ |
| 05:51.37 | AdmiralPanda | no I haven't |
| 05:51.48 | Angrybirds | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Marshal_of_France#Contemporary_Incumbents |
| 05:51.55 | AdmiralPanda | I'll make you a deal, I'll have a look if you have a look at the third part of Profane Rebirth :P |
| 05:52.50 | Angrybirds | Except looking at pictures is not the same as looking over a whole story. :P |
| 05:53.23 | AdmiralPanda | well true |
| 05:53.37 | Imperios2 | hon |
| 05:54.06 | Angrybirds | Counteroffer: You tell me what you think of the pictures, I read your passage, and then you look at a passage I made for a story Cyrannian and I are working on. |
| 05:54.19 | AdmiralPanda | ok |
| 05:54.41 | AdmiralPanda | what did you use to make those characters? |
| 05:54.47 | Angrybirds | STO. |
| 05:54.56 | AdmiralPanda | ah |
| 05:55.13 | Angrybirds | Kind of surprised me how good they were, and that's how imagine the actual French uniform looks like. |
| 05:55.21 | Angrybirds | how I imagine* |
| 05:59.38 | AdmiralPanda | So what is this fiction you wanted me to look at? |
| 06:02.11 | Angrybirds | Oh, right. |
| 06:02.39 | Angrybirds | It's still in my holding area, but this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AThe_Clanden/Sandbox#Cyrannus-thing |
| 06:05.47 | AdmiralPanda | looks good, you got the darker tones just right |
| 06:05.55 | AdmiralPanda | it was enough to be serious without being oppressive |
| 06:06.42 | Angrybirds | Oh? I hadn't thought of that. What contributed to that? |
| 06:08.16 | AdmiralPanda | the setting, dress, the way they spoke; giving information without saying it outright. You know someone's scared because they say as little as possible while still conveying everything |
| 06:10.29 | Angrybirds | What kind of information did you get about Lucian's character? |
| 06:11.24 | AdmiralPanda | that he was serious, intelligent and capable. once the situation was clear he knew exactly what had to happen and made sure it did. |
| 06:11.36 | AdmiralPanda | precisely the kind of person you want in a crisis |
| 06:12.25 | Angrybirds | Awesome. I didn't think I did that good a job with that passage. What flaws did you see? |
| 06:13.48 | AdmiralPanda | he's a bit naive about how France works, which is a tad disappointing |
| 06:14.31 | Angrybirds | Hm. You're referring to the opening passage? |
| 06:14.34 | AdmiralPanda | and just a tad too incautious for my liking |
| 06:14.36 | AdmiralPanda | yes |
| 06:14.55 | AdmiralPanda | I know you mention folklore and such, but you'd expect a high ranking anybody to know more |
| 06:14.57 | AdmiralPanda | in my opinion at least |
| 06:15.34 | Angrybirds | Right. I was trying to convey that that was a feeling, that he knows very well that it's not like that. |
| 06:16.05 | Angrybirds | Aaaaand I forgot to mention that he and Arnaud were classmates >.< |
| 06:16.17 | Angrybirds | That's an important omission. xD |
| 06:17.41 | Angrybirds | Meh, that last idea didn't stick too well with me. |
| 06:17.48 | AdmiralPanda | not necessarily, I got enough of a feeling that they knew each other, it came off as a professional relationship |
| 06:18.01 | AdmiralPanda | or at least a mutual knowledge of their reputations |
| 06:18.13 | Angrybirds | Right, got it. How would you advise I fix those problems? |
| 06:19.56 | AdmiralPanda | > Strangely, even an unfathomable distance from mainland France, the French were still French. < that sentence particularly irks me. He's surprised that the french are still french? I'd change it from 'strangely' to something that suggests that he's well aware of the fact |
| 06:20.45 | Angrybirds | Hm. You're right. |
| 06:20.57 | Angrybirds | I was in the process of revising it to: "It was a handsome fairy tale, but strangely, even an unfathomable distance from mainland France, the French were still French." |
| 06:21.12 | Angrybirds | Trying to think of a word. |
| 06:21.22 | Angrybirds | unsurprisingly. |
| 06:21.27 | Angrybirds | That's it. |
| 06:21.47 | Angrybirds | "It was a handsome fairy tale, but unsurprisingly, even an unfathomable distance from mainland France, the French were still French." |
| 06:22.33 | AdmiralPanda | that works a lot better |
| 06:22.44 | AdmiralPanda | doesn't make him look like he doesn't know his own people :P |
| 06:23.09 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 06:26.28 | AdmiralPanda | I don't know how high in the rankings Marshal is but I'd assume it'd be up there enough to warrant a good understanding of how France works |
| 06:26.30 | Angrybirds | Though the French are very different from one another depending on where you go. Given that the further you go from metropolitan France, the stronger foreign and alien influence is in culture, it logically follows that THIS far from France, the French people would be unrecognizable. That's not something he actually THINKS, but it's something that's likely to FEEL true on some level. |
| 06:26.44 | Angrybirds | AdmiralPanda : Absolutely. |
| 06:27.45 | Angrybirds | And he'd be pleasantly surprised and find it funny that, no, the French Cyrannian Colonies are just France transplanted into another galaxy. |
| 06:27.45 | AdmiralPanda | Australian culture is mostly homogenous simply because it's defined by the Aussie spirit. Even aliens that join end up thinking and feeling the same way just because it's a good honest way to live |
| 06:29.09 | AdmiralPanda | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Profane_Rebirth#The_Gift Your turn :P |
| 06:29.17 | Angrybirds | The French don't really have that strong a binding identity, and their territory is quite large. But yeah, Marshals are literally just under the president in terms of the chain of command. |
| 06:29.53 | Angrybirds | Lucian is part of a French delegation to Cyrannus to attend the Halcyon meeting. |
| 06:31.51 | Angrybirds | I'll read it. While I do, suggestions as to how to fix that other thing that bugged you? |
| 06:32.53 | AdmiralPanda | there isn't really anything else that bugged me, I just found it odd that someone who's been given a really sus note that says to come to a dark alley would swing a door open and step in without looking what's in there first |
| 06:34.35 | Angrybirds | That's a difference in culture, I think. France is a very very safe place by the 2800's and every single individual is rigged with technology that transports them immediately to the nearest medical facility if ever they are in need of medical treatment. That, and the note was passed to him in a secure military facility, a detail I forgot to mention. |
| 06:35.17 | AdmiralPanda | how does it transport them? |
| 06:35.52 | Angrybirds | It's the ST transporter, dematerializes their atoms and reforms them at the intended destination. |
| 06:36.42 | Angrybirds | (Yes, it can definitely be interfered with and blocked) |
| 06:36.45 | AdmiralPanda | that sort of tech would just be able to reassemble them to the point they were at before injury |
| 06:37.17 | Angrybirds | Right, I toyed with that idea and was wondering if I should go ahead with it. |
| 06:37.19 | AdmiralPanda | also, what kind of power source would that have? I recall the ST transporters using a lot of power |
| 06:37.56 | Angrybirds | The French use self-deploying dyson swarms to gather their power, enough for the whole star system + supplementary power sources. |
| 06:38.31 | AdmiralPanda | well yeah, but you're not gonna rig a dyson swarm to a personal transportation device |
| 06:38.55 | Angrybirds | (lol) |
| 06:39.03 | AdmiralPanda | the device itself would need a generator or battery of some sort |
| 06:40.10 | Angrybirds | Right, though the transporter isn't on the subject's person. It's a huge thing somewhere on the planet which gathers coordinate data from a transmitter embedded in the subject's body and then uses that information to perform a site-to-site transport. |
| 06:40.22 | AdmiralPanda | ah, that makes a lot more sense |
| 06:40.31 | AdmiralPanda | the way you described it made it sound like each person had a transporter |
| 06:41.26 | Angrybirds | Yeah, the French probably outlawed those a while ago, and instead required their citizens to pass through the planet's transport network. |
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| 06:41.55 | Angrybirds | Otherwise, there's potential for accidents. |
| 06:42.10 | AdmiralPanda | well it'd be more of how would you get the power to run a personal transporter, the emissions would be hard as fuck to mask |
| 06:42.47 | Angrybirds | ^ Handheld power sources and storage might generate the necessary amount of power by that point. I'm not sure on that one. |
| 06:42.57 | Angrybirds | Probably enough for one use. |
| 06:43.25 | AdmiralPanda | anyway, what did you think of the new PR section? |
| 06:43.36 | Angrybirds | Almost done. (Who wrote it?) |
| 06:43.54 | AdmiralPanda | me |
| 06:44.46 | Angrybirds | Why did you change style from "This," to Me - This? |
| 06:45.32 | Angrybirds | DOne. |
| 06:47.26 | AdmiralPanda | The difference between monologue and dialogue |
| 06:47.43 | AdmiralPanda | one speaker requires no distinction, whereas multiple speakers require distinction in who is speaking |
| 06:49.48 | Angrybirds | Right. Hm. Personally, having it be in that format removes a lot from the reading. I don't know why, but it sounds more forced and fake that way. Maybe because I receive no information about the person that's speaking as they're emoting? |
| 06:51.39 | AdmiralPanda | Personally I don't find it that way, but in any case that segment is more to give exposition on both the treatment and the aims of the organisation, so the emotions and details of the people aren't that necessary. |
| 06:52.28 | Angrybirds | And I can only picture the characters standing absolutely still because I'm given no other instructions. It would make perfect sense for the doctors to flank the patient and help him along while he's touching himself all over and almost in tears while this is being said: "Yeah, I have, It's amazing! I never thought I'd be able to move my limbs again, let along tie a braid or even stand up. I can't thank you enough for this!" |
| 06:53.06 | Angrybirds | It would feel more real to me if there was some motion in the scene. |
| 06:53.16 | AdmiralPanda | I'm fully aware the characters are bland, as I said it's not so much about the characters as the exposition |
| 06:53.30 | AdmiralPanda | but you're right, I can put a bit more in there |
| 06:55.16 | Angrybirds | Alright. The rest is interesting and well written, though it's a bit too much to believe. Is there some darker side to this organization? |
| 06:55.30 | Angrybirds | to fully believe* |
| 06:56.11 | AdmiralPanda | :grin: |
| 06:56.17 | AdmiralPanda | and now I must go, be back in an hour or so |
| 06:56.22 | Angrybirds | Waait |
| 06:56.24 | Angrybirds | Frack. |
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| 08:24.44 | Liquid_Ink | Angrybirds Angrydroid: I relaxed the rule on only one nation in order to boost activity |
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| 08:25.54 | AdmiralPanda | hello |
| 08:26.38 | Liquid_Ink | Hello! |
| 08:26.48 | Liquid_Ink | How are you? |
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| 08:52.08 | AdmiralPanda | Not bad, how are you? |
| 08:52.13 | AdmiralPanda | Late reply but I was getting dinner |
| 08:52.28 | Liquid_Ink | Reasonably well. |
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| 09:02.21 | AdmiralPanda | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Profane_Rebirth Third section is up, feel free to read anything you haven't already Liquid_Ink |
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| 09:51.50 | Hachiman | hai |
| 09:52.09 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
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| 10:01.42 | LawfulInsane | Hello. |
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| 10:21.23 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 10:29.22 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/tg/src/1393579910065.jpg |
| 10:29.34 | Hachiman | hur |
| 10:31.22 | Liquid_Ink | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Panorama_of_Baku.jpg Baku seems nice |
| 10:33.08 | AdmiralPanda | hai buni |
| 10:33.12 | AdmiralPanda | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Profane_Rebirth new secshun |
| 10:38.10 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda: Hm |
| 10:38.27 | Imperios | Remember the Javi pic I showed yesterday? |
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| 10:53.28 | Hachiman | hai |
| 10:54.17 | Monet | Hi |
| 10:57.43 | Imperios | Hi |
| 10:59.24 | Monet | Randomly decided to watch Yahzee's review of Eve online. |
| 11:00.07 | Monet | I find it funny that 3/4 of the review relates ot his desire ot blow things up |
| 11:01.07 | Monet | "how does signature focus differe from signature analysis and how does it help in me shhoting things?" |
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| 11:05.39 | Imperios | http://m.digitaljournal.com/article/333932 ...Well fuck dis. |
| 11:06.37 | Liquid_Ink | Rubbish. |
| 11:07.16 | Monet | "According to The Telegraph critics have claimed that Mr Flynn’s research is flawed because the penis length data was gathered from websites. " |
| 11:07.33 | Imperios | sighs |
| 11:07.38 | Imperios | That's a relief. |
| 11:07.59 | Hachiman | We could compare penises and see for ourselves |
| 11:08.24 | Imperios | ghey |
| 11:09.04 | Liquid_Ink | How exactly would we accomplish this over the internet? |
| 11:10.51 | Monet | It doesn't take a genius to guess that at least a small number of people were lying about the size of their shlong. |
| 11:10.54 | Hachiman | Skype video calls hur |
| 11:11.08 | Liquid_Ink | I don't have a camera |
| 11:11.38 | Liquid_Ink | (a webcam, that is) |
| 11:11.51 | Imperios | So... Asians are more honest then? |
| 11:12.22 | Hachiman | Imperios Monet: Quick question, during the Age of Apostasy, did Goge Vandire have any Chapters that were loyal to him or did he condemn all Chapters? |
| 11:12.49 | Imperios | Hmmm |
| 11:13.00 | Liquid_Ink | Or maybe Asians think smaller is better. |
| 11:13.52 | Imperios | Well, smaller is more efficient |
| 11:14.14 | Hachiman | hao dis |
| 11:14.16 | Imperios | I do not think every single Spess Mehreen chapter revolted |
| 11:15.14 | Hachiman | I remember it was only four Chapters that took part in the Terran Crusade against Vandire |
| 11:15.23 | Liquid_Ink | Well, smaller has more chance of fitting |
| 11:17.04 | Monet | Vandire wanted todepose the supreme power of the Ecclesiarchy and used kidnapping and execution to achieve hsi goal of making the Imperium mroe secular. |
| 11:17.45 | Monet | Then there was something about his forces attacking Astartes worlds because they remained bastions of the Imperial Creed. |
| 11:18.22 | Imperios | Uh? |
| 11:18.42 | Imperios | SMs are generally *less* religious than normal Imperials |
| 11:19.16 | Monet | Yeah but what about the humans living on those worlds? |
| 11:19.36 | Imperios | That and I do not think he was a secular ruler |
| 11:20.12 | Imperios | He was in charge of Ecclesiarchy, after all, and it was after his deposal that the Ecclesiarchy was forbidden to use military force |
| 11:21.01 | Monet | he was in charcge of the Ecclesiarchy yes, but that wasn't his original position. |
| 11:21.34 | Hachiman | Nah he headed the Administratum beforehand |
| 11:21.55 | Hachiman | Then he took over the Ecclesiarchy after Paulis III did an appauling job of heading it himself |
| 11:21.55 | Monet | Then he staged a coup |
| 11:23.11 | Monet | But the combination of a swathe of warp storms + the fact that Astartes Worlds have an enormous level of defence meant they were largely safe from his tyranny and the persecution he was washing though the Imperium. |
| 11:23.24 | Monet | Also Astartes worlds are technically independant. |
| 11:30.33 | Monet | Among Space Marines the Imperial Truth is upheld, among the locals of their worlds I don't think they mind too much so long as a) it's supportive towards the Emperor and b) it's got nothing ot do with the taint of Chaos. |
| 11:33.21 | Hachiman | Do you think any Chapters would have accepted Vandire's rule if not all of them revolted? |
| 11:35.04 | AdmiralPanda | Nope |
| 11:35.11 | AdmiralPanda | Marines are loyal to the Emperor as patriarch |
| 11:35.14 | AdmiralPanda | except chaos ones |
| 11:35.49 | Monet | Well, one of the triggers for Astartes involvement was his ships attacking their worlds. |
| 11:37.41 | Monet | And one of Vandire's goals was to purify the Ecclesiarch, who preached that the Emperor is a god to be worshipped. |
| 11:37.48 | Monet | Ecclesiarchy* |
| 11:38.12 | Monet | They also has a massive army and navy |
| 11:38.37 | AdmiralPanda | What's funny is the Emperor told everyone not to worship him |
| 11:41.44 | Monet | I don't think Vandire opposed the Emperor - he claimed the Emperor spoke to him regularly and he also created the Daughters of the Emperor, who became the precursors to the Adepta Sororitis. |
| 11:42.28 | Monet | Of course he was batshit insane by a few years into his reign. |
| 11:42.42 | Hachiman | Vandire opposed the High Lords, who are pretty useless anyway, although I reckon that he was more into it out of delusion and greed rather than loyalty and zealousness |
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| 11:44.31 | Monet | The Highlords are suppsoed to be the ones ruling the Imperium in the EMperor's stead so I guess in the eyes of the SMs opposing the high lords = opposing the Emperor. |
| 11:53.11 | Liquid_Ink | Hey Imperios, since I expanded the Roman Empire and the Anglo-German Empire, would you like some more European territory for the Yaitskan Empire? |
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| 12:24.53 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: The space marines and high lords don't agree :P |
| 12:25.02 | AdmiralPanda | they follow the Emperor not his Imperium |
| 12:25.19 | Monet | I know |
| 12:25.52 | TekDroid | So apparently the highway we drove up to here yesterday had a 100-vehicle collision around that time. |
| 12:25.59 | AdmiralPanda | wow |
| 12:26.16 | TekDroid | Total whiteout |
| 12:26.37 | AdmiralPanda | I don't even want to say what just popped into my mind |
| 12:26.40 | TekDroid | You could barely see a few feet in front of the bus |
| 12:27.04 | TekDroid | -.- |
| 12:28.18 | TekDroid | You'd never know what whiteout is like. |
| 12:29.00 | TekDroid | Or standimg outside in -30°C windchill. |
| 12:29.24 | TekDroid | Those are the moment Canada almost becomes the stereotype. |
| 12:32.14 | TekDroid | ...winter is serious business in Canada. |
| 12:34.09 | TekDroid | How's winter over in the other hemisphere? |
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| 12:34.36 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 12:35.00 | Hachiman | Speaking of gay |
| 12:35.01 | Hachiman | hai u |
| 12:35.16 | OluapPlayer | hai fat fuk |
| 12:35.40 | Hachiman | Funny because I'm the skinniest person I know hur |
| 12:36.01 | OluapPlayer | I'm skinnier than you hur |
| 12:38.16 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaJxXwNGvxQ |
| 12:38.36 | Hachiman | Surprisingly I saw this already hur |
| 12:38.51 | OluapPlayer | bah |
| 12:39.32 | Monet | Well, everything seems ood so far. If my luck holds i'll be in Iceland by late April. |
| 12:39.39 | Monet | good* |
| 12:40.54 | OluapPlayer | u gon get cold |
| 12:41.26 | Hachiman | You know I never get it; in some films, notably the Alien ones, when they encounter a character who's begging to die, they incinerate them with flamethrowers, thus increasing their suffering by like a thousand |
| 12:41.55 | Hachiman | Happens in Prometheus, happens in a deleted scene in Alien, happens in the fourth Alien movie] |
| 12:41.58 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Maybe 'cept Iceland has lots of hot springs |
| 12:42.19 | OluapPlayer | Kravh - i approve |
| 12:42.54 | Monet | Hachiman: I can't speak from xperience but I imagine getting char-grilled is more merciful than whatever slow or painful death awaits them |
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| 12:44.17 | Hachiman | Yeah but nonetheless getting char-grilled still isn't instantaneous and hurts a lot more I imagine |
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| 12:50.14 | Monet | I generally don't consider ALien 4 canon anyway. |
| 12:51.24 | Hachiman | Neither do I hur |
| 12:51.35 | Hachiman | Nor do I consider the AvP films canon |
| 12:52.31 | Monet | They weren't even scary |
| 12:52.48 | Monet | I remember the original |
| 12:53.22 | Monet | Got a real fright when we and Ripley realised the mirror she was washing her face with was THE ALIEN'S SKULL |
| 12:57.27 | AdmiralPanda | AvP wasn't even horror, it was thriller |
| 13:00.59 | Monet | That kind-of defeats the whole point of the Alien |
| 13:01.27 | Monet | Ridley Scott approached H.R Giger because he wanted to create the most bowel-forcingly scary thing possible. |
| 13:02.17 | Hachiman | Hopefully the new Alien: Isolation game will go back to its roots |
| 13:02.51 | AdmiralPanda | five bucks says no |
| 13:02.54 | Hachiman | There is only one alien this time, and its bigger than any I've seen outside of the Queen or any other special types |
| 13:02.58 | AdmiralPanda | Colonial Marines = dum |
| 13:04.42 | Monet | Colonial Marines looked good until SEGA forced it into the hands of Gearbox and said "make this good" |
| 13:05.42 | Hachiman | Alien: Isolation is being made by The Creative Assembly rather than Gearbox this time |
| 13:06.12 | OluapPlayer | I get reminded of the gif of the alien walking around saying stuff in a chav accent |
| 13:06.53 | Hachiman | olol |
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| 13:08.24 | Sporeraptor | hi |
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| 14:00.18 | The_Randomness | Hello everyone |
| 14:00.47 | Sporeraptor | hi |
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| 14:05.45 | Wormy | hi |
| 14:06.24 | The_Randomness | Hey |
| 14:07.14 | Sporeraptor | hi |
| 14:09.30 | Hachiman | hai |
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| 14:10.56 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 14:11.12 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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| 14:14.26 | Sporeraptor | hi |
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| 15:24.13 | Monet | So Leman RUss once fought Lion El'Johnson after the latter performed a kill-steal and the former responded by punching Lion in the jaw. |
| 15:24.24 | Monet | Fighting for a straight week. |
| 15:25.20 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 15:25.46 | Hachiman | Contrary to what others may think, the Primarchs and Space Marines often behave like teens |
| 15:26.12 | Monet | I think battle jsut shows how durable the Primarchs are |
| 15:26.58 | Monet | Most trained soldiers get tired after several hours of fighting, but a whole week? |
| 15:27.29 | Monet | And the only thing that stopped it was Leman breaking off and laughing over the ridiculousness of the scuffle |
| 15:31.04 | Wormy | Hachiman: Listen to the first song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEiMG2z3Hr4 |
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| 15:39.50 | Monet | Hachiman: True but Russ seems like one of the less "mature" ones. |
| 15:40.56 | Monet | Many of the primarchs recognised the Emperor and pledged to him quite willingly. |
| 15:41.24 | Monet | Russ? Nah, he would only accept if the Emperor could out-eat, out-drink and out-fight him. |
| 15:41.47 | Monet | Well, that was his original plan anyway. |
| 15:41.53 | Hachiman | To be fair, Russ is a viking |
| 15:43.00 | Monet | I see your point. |
| 15:43.37 | dromlexer | Gez I feel so tired |
| 15:43.39 | dromlexer | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140228154046/spore/images/1/17/Naakjidreadnought01.png |
| 15:44.15 | Monet | That's pretty impressive. What are all the windows? |
| 15:44.35 | Hachiman | Wormy: Ohgod what the fuck |
| 15:44.59 | Wormy | The Tiger Lillies are dark, amusing and sick at the same time |
| 15:46.31 | Wormy | Hachi: Snake Woman http://youtu.be/62-bUnLMcq4?t=3m23s |
| 15:47.55 | Wormy | Windows look like a nice use of the GA effects |
| 15:50.54 | Sporeraptor | dromlexer: Amazing work, I really love the idea with the windows. |
| 15:53.02 | Monet | I liek the texturing as well, the blue and grey make it look very striking |
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| 15:55.04 | Zmr56 | Hi there |
| 15:55.08 | Hachiman | Wormy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48YhY-GOLSE Have this |
| 15:55.50 | Wormy | It must have been a challenge in GA to take a shot with the effects loaded at once, since some change or blur out with distance. |
| 15:58.35 | Wormy | That was gruesome indeed |
| 15:59.07 | Monet | Hachiman OluapPlayer If Imperios is ever on at all could we possibly do any RPs? Its jsut I'll be gone for most of tomorrow. |
| 15:59.13 | Wormy | Hachiman - Have you heard the news? http://youtu.be/62-bUnLMcq4?t=56m23s |
| 16:00.08 | OluapPlayer | Me and hachi are already rping something right now |
| 16:01.59 | Monet | I'm asking about later since Impy's not here right now. |
| 16:02.23 | Hachiman | Possibly |
| 16:05.19 | drom | I'm back from dinner, feeling better now. |
| 16:08.43 | Zmr56 | Hmm, which countries would've invaded Algeria or the Mediterranean in the Mirrorverse? |
| 16:09.45 | Monet | Perhaps the Roman EMpire? |
| 16:10.12 | Zmr56 | That could be one |
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| 16:30.40 | drom | Lemme show you two of my best work on the old account. http://i.imgur.com/dV8SQch.png |
| 16:33.21 | Zmr56 | The car looks pretty good. |
| 16:33.27 | Zmr56 | So does the plane. |
| 16:40.41 | Zmr56 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algerian_Federation asdf done |
| 16:41.00 | Zmr56 | Feedback would be greatly appreciated. |
| 16:41.54 | Hachiman | ew humans |
| 16:42.47 | Zmr56 | yes humans |
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| 16:55.34 | drom | Humans... power-hungry primitives. |
| 16:55.54 | Monet | I'll have a look in a bit |
| 17:13.42 | Zmr56 | You're all racist xenophobes to humans |
| 17:14.18 | Monet | drom: That lower model, is that Jerry? |
| 17:15.33 | OluapPlayer | https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/1924903_10152267473078454_1329059074_n.jpg meow |
| 17:16.35 | Zmr56 | aww |
| 17:17.05 | Monet | ZMr56: From what I can see so far, i'm liking the Algerian Federation. The opening quote is particularly funny. |
| 17:17.15 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/vp/src/1393601006236.jpg |
| 17:17.17 | Zmr56 | Thanks :) |
| 17:18.09 | Hachiman | olol |
| 17:18.13 | Hachiman | I love that family |
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| 17:21.44 | Technobliterator | hiya |
| 17:22.10 | Zmr56 | Hello |
| 17:23.46 | Wormy | humans are gods of the SporeWikiverse anyway |
| 17:23.56 | Wormy | But no-one in the sporewikiverse knows it |
| 17:24.07 | Zmr56 | heh |
| 17:24.08 | Wormy | Except the Cult of Spore and the Willists |
| 17:26.29 | drom | Money, aye. |
| 17:26.31 | OluapPlayer | losa |
| 17:26.35 | Technobliterator | ya dad |
| 17:28.37 | Zmr56 | If only the real Algeria was like mine... |
| 17:38.32 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/708/105/752.png |
| 17:43.19 | Hachiman | olol |
| 17:43.48 | OluapPlayer | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/707/185/e3c.png and dis is true |
| 17:45.03 | Hachiman | What's that mean? |
| 17:45.18 | OluapPlayer | You have to grind tons to get a Hydreigon |
| 17:45.45 | OluapPlayer | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/707/754/276.png |
| 17:54.12 | Hachiman | hur |
| 18:06.29 | Technobliterator | so |
| 18:06.34 | Technobliterator | who online wants to do cleansing flames stoof |
| 18:07.19 | Monet | I *could* do something |
| 18:07.58 | Technobliterator | that would be nice |
| 18:11.54 | Monet | Although... |
| 18:12.04 | Monet | Who would be up for History Relived at all? |
| 18:19.25 | Monet | Actually might as well keep it solo. |
| 18:19.44 | Monet | Plot is too spoiler-heavy to reveal much about it |
| 18:22.01 | Zmr56 | I do wonder if there ever was a Mirrorverse/Fiction verse crossover that my Algeria of the Mirrorverse would probably try to wage some kind of holy war on the Great Empire of Sun and Sand. |
| 18:27.04 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1509063_413116638832684_578955927_n.jpg "look at all the sea horses" |
| 18:27.54 | Zmr56 | heh |
| 18:27.54 | Monet | Lol |
| 18:31.01 | Hachiman | https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1620457_710259015681590_628573381_n.jpg |
| 18:31.40 | Zmr56 | ohgod |
| 18:34.48 | Monet | Hachi in a test |
| 18:35.03 | Monet | Also why does the bacon have a smiley face? |
| 18:35.35 | Hachiman | Same reason the strawberry and milk does |
| 18:36.31 | Monet | faces on the food itself |
| 18:36.36 | Monet | that shit's just creepy |
| 18:37.59 | Zmr56 | The bacon contains the spirit of the pig that it once came from |
| 18:38.01 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/564664_663299257066210_1665518842_n.jpg |
| 18:38.33 | Zmr56 | I see what they did there |
| 18:38.43 | Monet | No shit WDRT |
| 18:40.32 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/1925020_663100840419385_724451123_n.png |
| 18:41.39 | Monet | Aww... |
| 18:42.04 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_the_Cleansing_Flames/Part_One#The_Fat_Butcher.27s_Cleave |
| 18:42.11 | Technobliterator | figured I'd show off the other villain a bit |
| 18:43.39 | Zmr56 | Well it seems there was a woman on the news called Libby Wiener |
| 18:49.31 | Hachiman | Good one Billig, but that's gonna take a horribly impractical amount of time to do by yourself |
| 18:54.29 | Zmr56 | Silly Billig. Although then again it does make him look a threatening force to be reckoned with in the rest of USO. |
| 19:00.47 | Hachiman | Aye, does make him seem threatening still |
| 19:05.29 | Zmr56 | He could just walk up to the USO capital and be all like "Waddup I'm invincible and all" And just cripple USO. |
| 19:06.04 | Technobliterator | [18:49] <Hachiman> Good one Billig, but that's gonna take a horribly impractical amount of time to do by yourself |
| 19:06.05 | Technobliterator | ? |
| 19:07.20 | Hachiman | Taking out USO planets by himself |
| 19:09.18 | Technobliterator | he took one easily |
| 19:09.22 | Technobliterator | he won't take others easily |
| 19:09.46 | Technobliterator | what did you think of the rest of the section? |
| 19:10.28 | Zmr56 | It was very good. |
| 19:10.30 | Hachiman | Was pretty cool, definitely gives us reason to fear him |
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| 19:59.37 | Sporeraptor | back |
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| 20:31.30 | Patriot868 | Hello |
| 20:33.05 | Sporeraptor | hi |
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| 20:34.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
| 20:37.27 | Patriot868 | hi\ |
| 20:41.25 | Zmr56 | Drodo: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algerian_Federation Camels. |
| 20:42.26 | DrodoEmpire | Nice. |
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| 20:48.52 | Zmr56 | Hi again |
| 20:52.53 | Monet | Okay so I read Techno's new section |
| 20:53.07 | Monet | Is VOlim supposed ot be cursed or something? |
| 20:53.12 | Monet | Billig* |
| 20:58.34 | Technobliterator | sorta |
| 20:59.09 | Technobliterator | when he left Insomnia, he became a freak of nature |
| 21:00.29 | Monet | Can't quite rememebr what happened to hi mthere |
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| 21:00.40 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 21:04.40 | Zmr56 | Hello |
| 21:08.59 | Wormy | hi |
| 21:12.39 | OluapPlayer | Billig basically suffered the same as Nu |
| 21:13.46 | OluapPlayer | And yes I just noticed I replied to a message from 12 minutes ago |
| 21:13.51 | OluapPlayer | bite me hur |
| 21:14.24 | Monet | No one else answered so thanks |
| 21:14.47 | OluapPlayer | Think of him as an abomination from Warcraft |
| 21:14.54 | OluapPlayer | Except relatively less ugly |
| 21:14.58 | Monet | I just wonder if these curses are a little one-sided. |
| 21:15.29 | Monet | "blessed are the demented" |
| 21:15.33 | OluapPlayer | Still |
| 21:15.35 | OluapPlayer | >the scariest Wranploer alive since the passing of General Volim |
| 21:15.38 | OluapPlayer | Vorius - noh |
| 21:16.06 | Monet | Yeah I wouldn't call Vorius a Wranploer anymore. |
| 21:16.21 | OluapPlayer | Fair enough |
| 21:16.52 | Technobliterator | that's why I didn't mention Vorius |
| 21:16.55 | Technobliterator | I considered it |
| 21:17.12 | OluapPlayer | vorius still scariest villain hur |
| 21:17.25 | Zmr56 | Drodo: Could the Iroquois Confederacy be best of buds with Algeria? |
| 21:17.39 | Hachiman | glomps OluapPlayer |
| 21:17.43 | Hachiman | muh baby ;A; |
| 21:17.53 | OluapPlayer | wot the fug |
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| 21:19.33 | The_Randomness | Hello everyone |
| 21:19.37 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 21:19.44 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: baby demands Tetra stoof |
| 21:19.55 | Monet | I'm a believer in Karma that's all. |
| 21:19.56 | Hachiman | ur a shit baby |
| 21:19.58 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 21:20.21 | OluapPlayer | ur a shit mom gimme Tetra stoof |
| 21:30.34 | DrodoEmpire | Zmr: I don't see why not |
| 21:32.28 | DrodoEmpire | (Sorry for the late response. :L) |
| 21:36.19 | OluapPlayer | ngh |
| 21:36.29 | Hachiman | muh baby ;A; |
| 21:36.54 | OluapAway | shut up mom UGH |
| 21:37.04 | OluapAway | go make tetra stoof u sack of shi |
| 21:37.20 | Hachiman | ur not away |
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| 21:57.43 | Wormy | hi |
| 21:58.11 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 21:58.22 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 22:03.10 | Zmr56 | Hello |
| 22:11.28 | Wormy | Time to cook my rather late dinner... |
| 22:23.15 | drom | Arma's air vehicles are so hard and complicated to control. |
| 22:23.57 | drom | Much worse when you go jet and attack helicopters. So I stick into transporting. |
| 22:25.39 | Ghelae | I'm going to go now. Bye! |
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| 22:29.48 | Monet | Isn't Arma supposed to be a more realistic fps? |
| 22:30.32 | Zmr56 | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140228222200/spore/images/d/de/Spore_2014-02-28_22-19-50.png yaaay Algeria with spaceships piloted by camels |
| 22:31.13 | Zmr56 | welp Pain.Net wouldn't use the magic wand tool properly so I had to keep the black background. |
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| 22:37.38 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 22:37.53 | Zmr56 | Hello |
| 22:37.53 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 22:39.33 | drom | Monet, yeah. But I never execpted it so hard. |
| 22:45.31 | drom | Am I the only one who likes overriped bananas? |
| 22:45.57 | The_Randomness | I usually only put bananas in smoothies :3 |
| 22:49.44 | drom | Zmr56, screenscreen that shit and then use a tool that's capable of removing that color and a hue tool that removes the green bloom applied to the model. |
| 22:54.46 | Zmr56 | Yaay! Thanks for the advice. |
| 22:55.00 | Zmr56 | I can now make my spaceships. |
| 22:55.12 | drom | greenscreen* |
| 22:55.55 | Zmr56 | Actually it still worked without the greenscreen but meh. |
| 22:56.20 | Zmr56 | But it sure is taking a damn long time to load. |
| 22:56.35 | drom | heh |
| 22:58.46 | Zmr56 | Godman internet wat do u have against camels and Algeria. |
| 22:59.14 | Zmr56 | It would be funny if I made it that Algeria was secretly ruled by sentient camels. |
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| 22:59.24 | Zmr56 | Hello |
| 23:01.06 | Liquid_Ink | It's a bit stereotypical. |
| 23:06.13 | Zmr56 | Yeah it is. heheh. I wouldn't really do that :P |
| 23:06.27 | Zmr56 | And this picture is still loading. |
| 23:11.28 | drom | What picy? |
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| 23:16.39 | Zmr56 | The new one I just made. |
| 23:17.16 | Zmr56 | lawd almighty from the heavens somewhere |
| 23:17.43 | Zmr56 | Why internet? Why? |
| 23:19.45 | Zmr56 | IRC is well and running but not the rest of the internet. |
| 23:35.55 | Zmr56 | There we go, uploaded |
| 23:57.18 | Zmr56 | Au revoir! |
| 23:58.09 | Liquid_Ink | Everyone dying. |
| 23:58.14 | Liquid_Ink | Where's Wormy? |
