IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140220

00:02.38WormyThese ships are pretty damn powerful http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Arms_Market#Starships
00:08.45MonetYou mean the ones being offered by the SAD?
00:10.36WormySAD?
00:11.00MonetSouthern Africanus Dominion
00:11.16WormyThe UN ships should be pretty good, since they have a mixture of Terran and Kindred technology
00:11.47WormySAD's ships look awful, even though they are big lol
00:12.48MonetMaybe that's the trade-off?
00:13.06Wormyyeah
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00:17.24Wormy_What does the ECM stand for?
00:21.15MonetECM?
00:22.14MonetAh
00:22.40MonetElectronic countermeasures - radar scramblers for example.
00:26.01TekDroidThough AB admitted the term might be obsolete by then.
00:27.52Wormy_We'll soon be using spintronics
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00:28.05Wormy_e'll soon be using spintronics
00:28.10Tek0516DroidWhoops, wrong button
00:28.10Wormy_*we will
00:32.23Wormy_I added some high tech abilities to my UN ships, and some STO abilities to the War bird
00:32.33Wormy_I've also created two Fjord fighters
00:32.57Wormy_One is a descendant of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrier_Jump_Jet
00:48.08Wormy_Monet:  "I;m not saying it was aliens.  But it was aliens" http://www.universetoday.com/109522/moby-dick-asteroid-2000-em26-on-the-lamb-help-slooh-find-it/
00:51.11MonetHeh
00:55.20Wormy_https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5258468352/h6CDFA11E/
00:55.42Wormy_http://jasonpitts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Londo_Mollari_Giorgio_Tsoukalos_-Father.jpg
00:55.47Wormy_ohgodlol
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01:04.11DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
01:09.54Wormy_Browsing youtube I found this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unfDUBq6_FA
01:09.56Wormy_hi
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01:23.33Tek0516DroidIf there's any admins around, we got someone create page for people who appear to be fake
01:30.06Tek0516DroidWhy do people do this. -.-
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01:32.34Tek0516DroidThank you for clearing the troll up OluapPlayer
01:32.42OluapPlayerno problem
01:32.51AdmiralPandahai ko
01:33.01OluapPlayerohi
01:33.12OluapPlayerI beat Havel on my Clotho run on my first try
01:33.28AdmiralPandabackstabs, parries, sorceries?
01:33.54OluapPlayerTurns out locking on him makes him super easy
01:34.04Wormy_):  I was beaten to it
01:34.05OluapPlayerBack on my first try I didn't even know you could lock on enemies
01:34.05AdmiralPandayeah, that and learning when to roll
01:34.12AdmiralPandalolwut
01:34.25OluapPlayerI didn't even roll, I just ran around himm
01:34.31Wormy_bye
01:34.35AdmiralPandayeah that don't work :P
01:34.36OluapPlayerTwo things I want to share with you though
01:34.41AdmiralPandaoh?
01:34.54OluapPlayerFirst is, I fought the black knight, and got dat shield again
01:34.55OluapPlayerhih
01:35.17AdmiralPandanoice
01:35.43OluapPlayerSecond is, when I fought Havel, I was using the bauder side sword. I backstabbed him. Guess how much damage it did to him
01:36.49AdmiralPandalots
01:36.52OluapPlayer20
01:36.56AdmiralPandawut
01:36.59AdmiralPandawhat build are you using?
01:37.05AdmiralPandaas in stats wise
01:37.49OluapPlayerI can't remember everything now but I got like 16 strength, 15 dex and 19 int
01:38.28OluapPlayerNeed that strength to use the Moonlight Greatsword later
01:38.50OluapPlayerAnyway yeah backstabs did 20 damage to Havel, I was forced to run off and switch to the Drake Sword
01:39.29OluapPlayerNormal attack did 10 damage, backstab did 20, soul arrow also did 20
01:39.59AdmiralPandaballer swag sword scales with dex
01:40.09AdmiralPandaso no wonder you did no damage
01:40.23OluapPlayerMe vs Havel at first was like a rat vs rhinocerous
01:40.56OluapPlayerThen I equipped the Drake Sword and it turned into rhinocerous vs rat with a shotgun
01:42.05OluapPlayerLast thing I did was kill Capra, I have the Master Key but I'm gonna go to the Depths anyway
01:42.46AdmiralPandalarge ember
01:42.58OluapPlayerLarge ember, souls and Kirk
01:43.02OluapPlayerDon't wanna miss Kirk this time
01:43.06AdmiralPandaI'm doing an all bosses run, so no skipping Depths for me
01:43.42AdmiralPandait's mostly just me doing what I want to do, but that includes killing EVERYTHING
01:43.48AdmiralPandaalso I'm gonna try and save Sieg
01:44.14OluapPlayerI should try and do that too when I get to Lost Dragon Butt
01:44.28AdmiralPandalel
01:44.43AdmiralPandaas if anyone actually fights the dragon butts
01:44.58AdmiralPandaalso I started with the old witch's ring this time
01:45.07OluapPlayerAlso where the hell are you supposed to find Quelana
01:45.12OluapPlayerI never found her on my first run
01:45.25AdmiralPandashe's sitting next to the pillar closest to Quelaag's domain
01:48.00OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIVAmgEXvLI there's a new DS2 trailer up btw
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01:50.19OfficerJackalHey!
01:51.38DrodoEmpireHey
01:52.50AdmiralPandaOluapPlayer: Dum that's just the original trailer with a bit of Dark Souls 2 content added
01:53.01OluapPlayerTrue
01:53.25OluapPlayerStill I like that the first game is at least acknowledged
01:53.45OluapPlayerAlso the trailer is like "hope u liked the hellkite drake cause theres a billion of him now"
02:16.28AdmiralPandathe blue drakes got red cousins
02:23.15OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/1FqittP.jpg i want one
02:50.21AdmiralPandadirects a rocket-propelled groin kick towards Angrydroid or Angrybirds_Away as appropriate
02:51.28AngrydroidO.O
02:51.33AngrydroidWAI
02:52.14AdmiralPandacus UDB
02:53.27AngrydroidWhat did I do?
02:54.16OfficerJackalWait, what's going on?
02:55.16AngrydroidOh! Thank you so much.
02:57.09AdmiralPandaso yeah
02:58.16AngrydroidThough you have Australia comment on the aliens' comments, not the actual post :\
03:00.58AdmiralPandaI'm aware of that
03:01.15AdmiralPandalet's face it, that post is no longer about the rebellion/invasion
03:02.05AngrydroidJust ignore those comments and bring it back to the actual point. That's all that I need.
03:02.21AngrydroidOr I'm deleting every single off topic post.
03:02.34AdmiralPandawow, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning
03:02.36AngrydroidBecause at this rate we're getting nowhere.
03:02.42AdmiralPandaseriously, turn off the aggro there
03:03.35AdmiralPandaI was in the process of writing an on-topic response, but now I'm turned off the whole thing
03:03.50OfficerJackal:|
03:03.58AngrydroidLol, that probably came off as more aggressive than intended. I am kind of in the middle of a nap and half asleep
03:04.13AngrydroidSo sorry about that.
03:04.28AngrydroidIt was a "might as well" sort of thing.
03:05.37OfficerJackalYeah, because from what I've seen, the Alien Empires have just completely hijacked the post, and have turned it into their own little circle-jerk on "how bad and primitive" the humans are.
03:06.13AdmiralPandathe wiki doesn't run on a railroad
03:06.15AngrydroidThough the debate is actually turning out to be fun.
03:06.16AdmiralPandapeople do what people do
03:06.31AdmiralPandagoing aggro like that just makes me want to get off the ride
03:07.07AngrydroidAs I said, didn't mean to come off like that.
03:07.26AdmiralPandato be honest, you've been coming off like that for quite a while
03:07.39AngrydroidOh?
03:08.06AdmiralPandafirst you got crabby because no humans were posting (understandable) then when a human does post you get crabby because they're talking about the current topic not the original one
03:08.29AdmiralPandaI treat the UDB like an ongoing conversation, I prefer to add to the end not the middle
03:08.50AdmiralPandaI was going against that, but I don't want to involve myself with this anymore tbh
03:08.50AngrydroidWhen I'm half asleep and was just told to my face that all human posts were going to be off topic. xD
03:09.03AdmiralPandaone person is all human posts? wow
03:10.00AdmiralPandaon another note, France hasn't done much to get the conversation back on topic
03:10.33OfficerJackalOk, let me post something to attempt to bring it back on topic.
03:10.53Angrydroid"Let's face it, the post is no longer about..." is what alarmed my sleep-muddled mind. Again, I agree the reaction was unwarranted.
03:13.49AngrydroidOkay then...
03:18.11AdmiralPandaI think you forgot the message Oj
03:18.56Angrydroid^
03:19.16AdmiralPandanvm I got it
03:19.21AdmiralPandayou capitalised the M in message
03:19.28OfficerJackalOh, thanks. :)
03:19.41OfficerJackalI always somehow manage to mess up the UDB somehow. XD
03:19.44AdmiralPandathere you go, now it's fixed
03:24.16AdmiralPandaon a completely unrelated note, the ANZR rep is named for the only Australian Prime Minister to ever get fired
03:24.57AngrydroidDanke so much, Panda. And lol, how did he end up with that unfortunate name?
03:25.19AdmiralPandabecause I like the name
03:25.51AdmiralPandaand I'm sure as hell not naming him Abbott, Rudd or Gillard
03:26.58AdmiralPandaalthough to be fair, his being fired was rather controvertial
03:27.36AdmiralPandahe eliminated military conscription, criminal execution, he also instituted fee-free public education and universal health care
03:28.07AdmiralPandathe only reason he was forced to step down was basically his government couldn't get anything through the senate, and a double-dissolution didn't solve the problem
03:29.27AdmiralPandaso yeah, the ANZR version embodies his better traits without the problems that forced him to stand down
03:31.31AngrydroidAh, that makes sense.
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03:32.34AdmiralPandaholy crap you're still alive
03:32.51HalopediamanWho, me?
03:33.03AdmiralPandaI haven't seen you in ages
03:34.22HalopediamanYeah, sort of got out of practice for rolling in.
03:34.28HalopediamanHow are things?
03:35.01OfficerJackalThey are alright.
03:35.50HalopediamanAlright is good.
03:39.16AdmiralPandahad a couple of scraps here and there but it's alright now
03:39.56HalopediamanNot too scrappy I hope?
03:40.27AdmiralPandagot pretty bad but we sorted things out
03:41.19HalopediamanWell, glad that the world is back in order then.
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04:57.59TybusenHola coca cola rola bola sola cola hola
05:04.00AdmiralPandahi
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05:06.14ImperiosHi
05:06.56AdmiralPandahello
05:09.21TybusenImperios: So I've come up with a name for a leader of the EAC
05:09.36TybusenWhether we want him to be first or the current one we should decide
05:13.52TybusenImperios: dum are you there?
05:42.48ImperiosNo
05:42.54ImperiosTybusen: I am not
05:43.02TybusenGood
05:43.09TybusenBecause I came up with a name for a EAC leader
05:43.15TybusenEither first one or current one
05:43.23ImperiosHm hm?
05:44.06Tybusen"Chao Bai", Chao being Chinese for "overcome" and Bai being Chinese for "white"
05:44.14Imperioshrh
05:44.15ImperiosHih
05:44.59TybusenAnd white is the color of death in Chinese culture
05:50.08ImperiosSounds good, although the current leader should probably be non-Chinese
05:50.17ImperiosFor the sake of diversity
05:50.23ImperiosVietnamese, perhaps?
05:51.14TybusenMaybe
05:51.28TybusenI'll make Chao Bai the first President of the EAC since he's Chinese
05:51.41ImperiosYa
05:52.14ImperiosNguyen something
05:52.25Tybusensuch stereotypical
05:52.31ImperiosOr is that surname way too generic?
05:52.53TybusenUsing Nguyen for a Vietnamese person is like calling an American John Smith
05:53.18TybusenIt's pretty much like Chang for Chinese people or Sakura for Japanese girls
05:53.58ImperiosKim/Choi/Tsoi for Koreans
05:54.19ImperiosYeah
05:54.23TybusenKim and Lee especially for Koreans
05:55.32ImperiosWeird
05:55.59ImperiosIn Russia, the most common Korean surnames are Kim and Tsoi (which is the Russian way of pronouncing Choi)
05:57.51ImperiosTao Van Son?
05:58.59TybusenTo Americans, Kim and Lee are the stereotypical Korean names
05:59.02ImperiosTybusen: And speaking of ethnicities
05:59.38ImperiosIf a Russian doesn't like, say, Armenians or vice versa, is that racism?
05:59.43ImperiosOr is it just nationalism?
06:00.53TybusenThat depends
06:01.20ImperiosHm?
06:01.23TybusenWell actually yeah that's racism
06:01.51TybusenHaving negative prejudices against any race would be racist
06:02.05ImperiosBut Armenians are Caucasian
06:02.08TybusenIt could also be nationalist depending on the motivations to hate the other race
06:02.29TybusenI always thought the Armenians were more Middle Eastern than white
06:02.40ImperiosWell, they are from Caucasus
06:02.50ImperiosErgo, Caucasiam
06:03.02TybusenThat's a misnomer in my opinion
06:03.35TybusenI don't think any of the European white races can trace their lineage to actual Caucasians
06:06.29TybusenMy god Twitch Plays Pokemon is an absolute trainwreck
06:06.52Angrybirds^
06:08.28Tybusenhttp://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon
06:09.35Tek0516DroidIt is quite a trainwreck. A classmate had it on in band, and by the end they were back were they started
06:10.50Tek0516DroidMy crowning moment of awesome on EUIV: 2 of my regiments are attacked by 20+ of native Americans. My regiment starts gaining an advantage. XD
06:11.53Tek0516DroidAfter reinforcements arrived it was a 4:1 casulty rate even while outnumbered 1:4
06:15.30ImperiosTybusen: Wait, there is more than one European race?
06:15.57TybusenI consider people from the different nations of Europe to be separate races
06:16.17TybusenI don't consider Scots and Italians to be the same race
06:30.47OfficerJackalMeh, I'll just spam Google Translated russian into the Twitch chat. :/
06:46.06ImperiosOfficerJackal: I can help you if you want
06:46.33ImperiosTybusen: Ah
06:47.12ImperiosI've always thought there are only four or five races hur
06:47.37OfficerJackalImperios: Nah, I had to drop out, I'm on my phones Cellular Hotspot, don't want to be using all of it's data.
06:48.50ImperiosAnyway, I am going to make an Armenian character for the Euraspact
06:49.34ImperiosJust because "Hachinyan" is a legit Armenian surname hur
06:58.33ImperiosMarshal Hachinyan
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07:31.21OfficerJackalDis channel is teh ded.
07:32.03Liquid_InkDon't wake it
07:51.33ImperiosAn invisible naked woman flying through Stalin-era Moscow
07:51.40ImperiosGod I love Russian literature
07:54.19Liquid_Ink???
07:56.05ImperiosIt's an actual scene in Master and Margarita
07:56.22ImperiosWhich is among the most famous Russian movels
07:56.24Imperiosnovels
07:56.38ImperiosEver heard of Bulgakov? That's him
08:06.24Liquid_InkWhy exactly is there an invisible naked woman flying through Stalin-era Moscow?
08:48.47ImperiosLiquid_Ink: Long story
08:49.15ImperiosTry reading the book yourself, the novel's so convoluted I can't describe it in two words
08:49.22Liquid_InkI see
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08:51.57dromlexerhello
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09:00.27OfficerJackalhey
09:01.05dromlexerhey
09:01.14dromlexerNot much people active now.
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09:01.30dromlexerhey
09:01.34AdmiralPandagreetings
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09:07.15Liquid_InkNyamh21
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09:09.19dromlexerwut are you doing inky
09:09.30Liquid_InkEh?
09:10.52dromlexerYou signed out and rejoined in twice.
09:11.05Liquid_InkYes, I did. Let us not discuss this.
09:12.03dromlexerk
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10:50.31dromlexerstargate oris OP, plz nerf
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11:14.16HachimanHai
11:17.00Liquid_InkHello
11:19.20AdmiralPandaHai buni
11:19.23AdmiralPandaI got Dust
11:26.12Liquid_InkHas GD12 been on lately?
11:27.09HachimanNope
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11:41.27CyrannianHello!
11:41.42HachimanHai
11:41.45dromlexerhai
11:42.50dromlexerNo uppercase, I feel like an underdeveloped primitive.
11:47.29Liquid_InkHello
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12:22.46Wormyhi
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12:45.08dromlexeri gotta go
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12:55.31ImperiosHi
13:10.59HachimanHai Imperios
13:11.01Hachimanhttp://www.damnlol.com/i/fcd2f0f439a79b24806ec9dd817fee16.jpg
13:20.04Imperiosohgod
13:20.46HachimanImperios: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_3506600189&feature=iv&src_vid=AwMgJHHdhVM&v=N2Z-1zqrvR0 If you can watch
13:21.26ImperiosBrother Coach, narthecium here!
13:26.54HachimanI like the fact that at one point her gun doesn't hit and kill the Genestealer that just downed her so she just turns it on Brother Rochelle and like downs them instantly with it
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13:27.03ImperiosBrother Rochelle
13:27.07HachimanHai Monet
13:27.08ImperiosWait what
13:27.11ImperiosYo
13:27.13MonetHi
13:27.29HachimanMonet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_3506600189&feature=iv&src_vid=AwMgJHHdhVM&v=N2Z-1zqrvR0
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13:27.36Hachimanhai Jo
13:27.43Technobliteratorhiya
13:28.06ImperiosHiya
13:28.54MonetI like how she takes the power claws with no question whatsoever.
13:28.59HachimanSnipe kinda reminds me of a more comical Arsac playing that game
13:29.02Hachiman"So what you gonna take?" "Lightning claws." "Not going to look at any other weapons?" "Nope, not interested."
13:29.22ImperiosTF2 Warhammer mod
13:29.25ImperiosMake it happen
13:29.45MonetI've already seen a mod that makes all the classes look like space marines.
13:32.57MonetCoach should hace a chocolate storm bolter
13:33.01Hachimanhur
13:33.05Hachiman"When I think vicious Viking barbarian werewolves, I think card games."
13:33.14HachimanExactly my problem with card games hur
13:39.11ImperiosMonet: Hm.
13:39.14MonetSpace Wolves: The Collectable Wolf Card Wolf"
13:39.32ImperiosWhat social class did you choose in GW2 for Marcosir?
13:39.48MonetNoble
13:40.03Imperios....hao. HAO. HAO.
13:40.11HachimanI've heard theories that Leman Russ went Wulfen during his time in the Warp yet somehow is still loyal to the Emperor
13:40.17ImperiosMy choices for Javina in GW2 were
13:40.36ImperiosNoble -> Lost parents -> Vigil -> Quaggan
13:41.04ImperiosGoddamn hivemind
13:41.47HachimanHonestly the thought of a giant Primarch werewolf is absolutely terrifying
13:41.56HachimanSo I'm sort of hoping Russ hasn't gone Wulfen
13:42.26ImperiosThat'd be downright terrifying
13:42.36ImperiosHachiman: Well actually Wulfen are loyal
13:42.54ImperiosSWs are more resistant to Chaos when they are furry, you see
13:43.00HachimanHuh
13:43.27ImperiosSo when they are exposed to Warp energy, they go Wulfen automatically to prevent corruption
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13:44.01ImperiosHi
13:44.16OluapWorkerhi
13:44.17HachimanHai u
13:44.34HachimanImperios: Yeah but Wulfen are pretty much insane nonetheless
13:44.43ImperiosYeah
13:44.55MonetInsane yes, but not entirely Chaos insane
13:45.17Imperios"Rawr imma eat ya" insane, not "METAL BOXES" insane
13:46.05Hachimanrite
13:46.29ImperiosIt's funny how Alphas are the sanest Chaos Space Marines
13:47.14ImperiosYet thanks to Relic they are now seen as generic doomsday villains really
13:48.16OluapWorkerHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/1N558HC.jpg? here's a DS2 boss
13:48.32MonetPrimarchs seem generally more resillient ot the powers of CHaos
13:48.44HachimanOluapWorker: Geezush
13:48.55OluapWorkerThe name translates to "The Depraved"
13:48.55HachimanMonet: Horus Heresy proves you wrong on that
13:49.05MonetThe path to demon princehood has the ever-present chance of turning you into a writing gibering mass of Warp-twisted flesh.
13:49.28ImperiosWell it took a LOT of effort for Chaos Primarchs to become corrupted
13:49.33MonetAFAIK none of the traitor primarchs became Chaos Spawn
13:49.44HachimanNot for Angron it didn't
13:49.46HachimanHe was the first Daemon Primarch
13:50.22HachimanAnd Konrad was always destined to eventually betray the Emperor
13:51.07OluapWorkerHachiman: http://1mage.fr/images/yearofwa.png
13:51.09ImperiosI mean it took childhood traumas + Erebus's schemes + alien manipulation + daemon possession, in Fulgrim's case to turn them traitor
13:52.17HachimanYeah but the Primarchs who did fall to Chaos did so in quick succession
13:52.25HachimanIf I recall correctly
13:52.34HachimanMainly because the Emperor was a colossal douchebag
13:53.40MonetMy point is, out of all of those primarchs, which ones failed in becoming a demon prince aside from getting killed by Loyalist forces?
13:54.45HachimanHmm
13:54.46HachimanNone, I think
13:55.30MonetIf these Primarchs managed to stave off corruption into chaos spawn, I'm willing to believe that it's possible for Leman Russ to return with the Wulfen curse and retain some measure of sanity.
13:55.43ImperiosWhat Monet's trying to say is that they had willpower necessary to resist complete Chaos corruption
13:55.46HachimanImperios: It's funny how Perturabo became corrupted for being disrespected and under-appreciated by his Primarch colleagues and he's also the most overlooked of the Primarchs irl
13:55.57HachimanAye that makes sense
13:58.16MonetAlthough I get the feeling if this does happen a LOT of furries are going ot have a field day.
14:00.36Hachiman"Russ comes charging out of the Warp in Wulfen state while his massive furry dong sways side to side" would be the most common interpretation most likely
14:01.13ImperiosExpand Wolf
14:01.17Hachimanolol
14:17.23OluapWorkerHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/A6qceKE.png
14:17.40OluapWorkerhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgzeDEiCUAAVjtT.jpg and this
14:17.50Hachimanohgod
14:18.14HachimanI think it's great NinjaSexParty and GameGrumps are becoming more involved
14:19.33OluapWorkerBarrycorn
14:19.50HachimanAye
14:20.28OluapWorkerbtw I'm not buying my classmate's 3DS anymore, he's being too hesistant and wants too much for it
14:20.44OluapWorkerhesitant even
14:21.14Hachimandum
14:21.27OluapWorkerInstead I'm getting Dark Souls 2 on launch hur
14:21.35HachimanOoh nice hur
14:28.31MonetWHo is this Alex Day bloke exactly?
14:29.20HachimanSome vlogger or something
14:31.51MonetI've seen hsi advert where he begins saying "hello YouTube" And Fred came to mind.
14:32.39HachimanUgh Fred can go die for all I care
14:32.49HachimanSome Youtubers I absolutely cannot stand
14:32.55HachimanAs well as some Youtube shows
14:33.41OluapWorkerNever heard of
14:33.48OluapWorkerAlex Day that is
14:34.04MonetLong story short...i'm not keen fro mwhat I hear.
14:35.23HachimanAnnoying Orange is tedious, Fred is annoying, PewDiePie is absolutely repetitive, talentless and dishonest, and I just can't stand vloggers in general because who wants to watch/hear somebody rant or whine about unfunny things all day
14:36.12OluapWorkerLast time I heard of Fred, he had gotten himself his own TV show
14:36.29HachimanAye
14:36.32HachimanWhich is stupid
14:36.55OluapWorkerI don't watch TV anymore so I don't even know if it's still around
14:37.22HachimanEh neither do I, British television is just boring boring boring
14:37.36HachimanAside from stuff like Sherlock or Doctor Who or whatever people are into nowadays
14:41.13OluapWorkerHachiman: http://www.shacknews.com/article/83184/the-year-of-luigi-ends-on-march-18 green mario ded
14:42.13Hachimandaww
14:44.54HachimanI'm gonna nap for a few hours, bbl
14:45.20Monet"Five Things I Never Did" Alex is still in his young adult stage.
14:45.53MonetAnother droning vblogger.
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15:53.44dino__Hello all, how is all doing?
15:56.01MonetPretty good
15:56.45dino__Monet :D
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16:00.05dromlexerhello
16:00.20dromlexerAnd it looks like dinoman is back
16:01.51dino__hello dromlexer!
16:05.25dino__Anything of importance going on?
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16:17.16Sporeraptorhi
16:21.26dromlexernah
16:21.35dromlexerYou were been away for long.
16:21.45dromlexerOh He left.
16:22.11dromlexer*sad violin*
16:22.17dromlexerAnd hi raptor
17:08.11dromlexeroff to play star truckers online
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17:09.58dromlexerAnd here's a new update.
17:10.04dromlexerhello
17:10.40OfficerJackalHey!
17:12.37Sporeraptorhi
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17:16.57The_RandomnessHello everyone
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17:22.38JepardiHi
17:23.14Sporeraptorhi
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17:41.38dino__hellloo all
17:41.40dino__how is all doing?
17:41.59WormyHello.
17:42.11WormyDoing okay thanks
17:42.28dino__Wormy!
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17:42.42XhoI AM SPU HEAR ME ROAR
17:43.18WormyHear something?
17:43.29XhoNo not really
17:44.04dino__Xho!
17:44.24dino__I didn't hear you roar, you probably to far away :P
17:44.27dino__ROAR louder!
17:44.51OluapWorkerspu
17:45.16XhoY U NO HEAR ME ROAR
17:45.51dino__:D
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17:48.01DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
17:48.37WormyHi
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17:51.35CyrannianHello!
17:51.45dino__hello Drodo and Cyrannian
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17:52.15Cyranniandino__: Long time no see! :D
17:52.25DrodoEmpire^
17:53.34CyrannianI was bored earlier in college so I decided to google SporeWiki to see what would come up. Some people might find these interesting: http://www.webstatsdomain.org/domains/sporewiki.com/ https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/SporeWiki
17:54.35dino__@Cyrannian!: Yeah, I know sorry for that! Was tremendously busy and had qutie some pressure to get thigns done, :D
17:54.41Xho"$676 USD"
17:54.51XhoWELL DONE PEOPLE WE'RE WORTH $676
17:55.09OluapWorkerhoh
17:55.11Technobliterator676 dollars is actually ok all things considered
17:55.13dino__lol
17:55.23dino__\indeeed, you can do fun things with tha tamount of money
17:56.21Cyrannianhttp://forums.massivecraft.com/threads/sporewiki.6409/ - I also found this which has some fun inaccurate facts. For example, I apparently created the Civatron
17:57.14OluapWorkerYou are now Val
17:57.22OluapWorkerAlso Junction mentions make me go <3
17:57.48WormySeen that already
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17:58.03Imperios_Hello!
17:58.07OluapWorkerhi
17:58.14CyrannianHey there
17:58.25Imperios_Cyrannian: Seen my suggestions about the human government?
17:58.37CyrannianI really liked them
17:58.50Technobliteratorapparently
17:58.54Technobliteratorit was mastermachine who made that
17:58.56WormyWot RaitingUndesirable
17:59.05XhoTechnobliterator: Makes sense hur
17:59.05WormyI wonder why
17:59.14OluapWorkerThe name fits
17:59.14Imperios_So, do you think we should go for that?
17:59.15dino__Imperios!!!!!!!!!
17:59.16dino__Jo!!!!!!!!11
17:59.33CyrannianImperios_: I support it
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17:59.36MonetYeah that is MM
17:59.50MonetThat;s his Minecraft name
18:00.08OluapWorkerOk I just got the green light to waste my money on whichever games I want
18:00.13OluapWorkerHa-Ha time for Steam
18:00.13TechnoIsBackhe said it on the page
18:00.15CyrannianI haven't seen MM in a while
18:00.48OluapWorkerDidn't he get banned
18:00.56OluapWorkerI can't remember anymore
18:01.04TechnoIsBackthink so
18:01.06OluapWorkerNot that I care, I'm glad he's gone
18:01.09TechnoIsBack+
18:01.16WormyI thought he came back and stayed for a bit late last year
18:01.18CyrannianI think he came back but then left
18:01.28XhoOluapWorker: You should green light on buying me games
18:01.35Imperios_BTW it'd be interesting what language would be the lingua franca of humanity
18:01.36OluapWorkerlol NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
18:01.41Xholol YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
18:01.46Imperios_Arabic, perhaps?
18:01.58XhoImperios_: Some horrific clash of English, Mandarin and Spanish
18:02.03OluapWorkerI'll leave money saved to get Dark Souls 2 on launch
18:02.12OluapWorkerFor now I think I'm gonna get Castle Crashers
18:02.35XhoEight hundred years of linguistic development means that the lingua franca would be like Neo-Esperanto
18:02.37Imperios_Xho: That'd be weird hur
18:02.51Imperios_Although English and Chinese are actually quite similar, strangely enough
18:02.57Imperios_On a grammatic level
18:03.00OluapWorkerBob language
18:03.05XhoBob - mmph
18:03.06OluapWorkerevery word is bob, every letter is bob
18:03.08Imperios_They are both somewhat isolating
18:03.19TechnoIsBacki'm off now
18:03.21TechnoIsBackbyee!
18:03.38XhoHumanity speaks like Pyros -> Psi doesn't see a difference
18:03.48OluapWorkerhur
18:04.07XhoPsi - herd u wer talkin shi
18:04.27Imperios_Xho: Also there should be a Semitic element in the equation too
18:04.30Imperios_As in, Arabic
18:04.34Imperios_Not Hebrew or Amharic hur
18:04.46MonetAnno 2070 is on sale until the 24th
18:04.51MonetIts 4.99!!!
18:04.52OluapWorkerLeast expensive game on my wishlist is I Have No Mouth
18:04.58MonetÂŁ4.99!
18:04.58OluapWorkerBut I'm unsure if I really want it
18:05.13CyrannianImagine a human diplomat greeting an alien: "lol hai #swag #diplomat #dont #hate #me #cus #u #aint #me"
18:05.24XhoKicath - LOL NOTHING TO DO HERE #NOPE
18:05.43Imperios_Cyrannian: The great language of the unified human race, #Yolo.
18:05.59CyrannianYolo is now a world religion
18:06.03OluapWorkerXhodocto - nothing to do brb destroying galaxy #chaos #zap
18:06.04Imperios_There is actually a language called Yola
18:06.19Imperios_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forth_and_Bargy_dialect
18:06.23XhoXhodocto - #humanitywasamistake #longhashtag #worthit
18:06.30Imperios_Well, a dialect of English, but still
18:06.47Imperios_"Fade teil thee zo lournagh, co Joane, zo knaggee? Th' weithest all curcagh, wafur, an cornee. Lidge w'ouse an a milagh, tis gaay an louthee: Huck nigher; y'art scuddeen; fartoo zo hachee?"
18:06.57Imperios_That's the Yola language apparently
18:07.03XhoWhat in the name of
18:07.05XhoLet's not hur
18:07.07dino__@Oluap: Lightning Returns Final Fantasy ?
18:07.10dino__Is a nice new game
18:07.13XhoYou're better off constructing a language for yourself
18:07.16dino__or in march I guess South Park
18:07.17XhoOr
18:07.20Imperios_"fartoo zo hachee"
18:07.21XhoWarping English
18:07.23Imperios_"hachee"
18:07.31Imperios_I actually thought of making a conlang for Euraspact
18:07.32OluapWorkerI don't play Final Fantasy
18:07.32Imperios_Evraz
18:07.42Imperios_Basically simplified, corrupted Russian
18:07.59MonetI'm feeling generous. I'm willing to gift people Anno 2070 on Steam right now
18:08.15Cyrannianraises his hand
18:08.16OluapWorkerI got Civilization V as the most expensive game on my wishlist but I fear I might end up playing once or twice then never touching it again
18:08.18XhoImperios_: They speak through the means of playing balalaika
18:08.20OluapWorkerThis happened with Civ IV
18:08.26dino__@Oluap: Ah ok. What about shooters?
18:08.44Cyrannianbrb dinner
18:09.37dino__before my absence I made this : Draconiae Conquerer of the Skies.png
18:09.46dino__http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Draconiae_Conquerer_of_the_Skies.png
18:09.51dino__what do you gusy thinks of it?
18:09.56Imperios_Ya tvoy dom ap truba shatal i kepka na khuy-to vertal
18:10.00Imperios_That's how it'd sound
18:10.06XhoDino__: Looks cool
18:10.08XhoWhat's it for
18:10.14Imperios_Simplified Russian
18:10.16OluapWorkerLooks good
18:10.19Imperios_Meh you probably won't get the difference
18:10.41Imperios_dino__: dwagon
18:10.45dino__@Xho: Thanks, I thinking of it making an Atlantica, as Aininye are mostly in the Realms of the Gods, perhaps there are shepards who remaind in the mortal realms
18:10.54dino__somesort of uber dragaon atlantica thing
18:11.09XhoRethex - fuks saek
18:11.14SporeraptorBack, hi; dino__: Looks magnificent
18:11.14dino__Or do you g usy have a better idea? Suggestion to have him involveed?
18:11.16MonetIt is a very regal-looking dragon. I like
18:11.21WormyLooks awesome
18:11.25dino__hello sporeraptor!
18:11.28Wormylove the colours
18:11.30OluapWorkerSo I got Castle Crashers, I Have No Mouth, the Stanley Parable, DuckTales Remastered and Skyrim
18:11.37OluapWorkerSkyrim is low priority compared to the others
18:11.40dino__based him upon the Bahamut from FFX/FFX-2
18:12.16OluapWorkerI'd buy all of them at once but that would fuck my wallet up hur
18:14.23XhoSo
18:14.27XhoKoldenwelt cosmology
18:14.31dino__how are you doing sporeraptor?
18:14.39XhoAre there any worlds above Koldenwelt aside from Midnight and Zenith
18:15.22OluapWorkeridunnohur
18:15.40XhoPerhaps the world/worlds of the elvish pantheon as well
18:15.48XhoThere's like ten worlds below I think
18:16.12XhoI want to get this made in a diagram because well yeah
18:16.16Imperios_Xho: Outworld
18:16.27Imperios_Also I made such a diagram already
18:16.31Imperios_have made
18:16.34XhoImperios_: Yeah but with all worlds
18:16.58XhoLike all worlds between the Void and Koldenwelt and all words above Koldenwelt
18:17.52Sporeraptordino__: Thank you for asking, in fact very well. I'm currently revamping my fiction's military. How are you ?
18:18.16XhoSo Outworld is a world above Koldenwelt?
18:18.21dino__Oh great to hear! Oh revamping? Interessting!
18:18.26dino__I am great as well, thanks!
18:18.30dino__Just busy :D
18:18.33XhoI would have thought considering it's a world of undead/liches it would have been a world below
18:19.44XhoAlthough Alar'xashan would contradict that statement
18:19.48XhoHm could work
18:20.30dino__Bye!
18:20.32dino__Have to leae gain
18:20.52dino__bye
18:21.09XhoBy the looks of its: Nothing -> Crystallis -> Pavor -> Nihilchthonia -> Sanguine Hill -> Hypocrite's Rest -> Hunter's Grove -> Id -> Underworld -> Isiris <- Outworld <- Midnight <- Zenith
18:21.26XhoAnd there are likely to be worlds above Zenith
18:22.14XhoThat's what I make it
18:22.29XhoI don't know what other people's stands are from the other worlds above Pavor and below Isiris itself
18:22.44XhoI'd say the Underworld is one world below since it's a world of the dead
18:23.04OluapWorkerI'd put the Underworld below Sanguine Hill
18:23.12Xhorly nao
18:25.31XhoIs Crystallis a part of the Chaosphere or is a separate realm altogether
18:26.03OluapWorkerMight be separate but really close to it
18:26.20XhoCaligaduro - gfto off ma lawn
18:26.28OluapWorkerVargash - i am u tho
18:26.45XhoCaligaduro - fien gfto off ur own lawn
18:27.13DrodoEmpirehttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1/1653533_737301156288470_1077170928_n.jpg - Way to go, Canadian Conservatives.
18:28.18OluapWorkerbah my credit card isn't working with Steam
18:28.32OluapWorkerlemme waste my money Gabe
18:29.02XhoRather amazingly, Gabe needn't your money
18:30.38OluapWorkerI will make him need it
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18:50.35GhelaeHello.
18:50.41Wormyhi
18:52.26Sporeraptorhi
19:13.04Sporeraptorbye
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19:16.54OfficerJackalHey!
19:17.00DrodoEmpireHey!
19:17.21DrodoEmpireI was going to post a message on the KDB but it glitched out every time. :L
19:17.27OfficerJackalD:
19:17.42OfficerJackalWell, can you post it on there, I might be able to fix it. XD
19:19.21DrodoEmpireI mean it wouldn't post because of a server error. :P
19:19.34OfficerJackalOh. D:
19:30.53OluapWorkerhttp://puu.sh/72Gm3.png
19:32.52OluapWorkerXho: https://24.media.tumblr.com/7a89152a2e1aeed7cd1307c9b818f733/tumblr_mi6gtcRTTP1qermymo1_500.jpg "pickpocket level: surgeon"
19:34.39XhoOluapWorker: boss
19:35.21XhoI might get started on that page we were talking about earier
19:35.22Xhoearlier
19:35.30XhoThe armour/weapon types thing
19:36.13OluapWorkerfinish Vargash's sister paeg
19:36.27XhoThat's still processing
19:37.03XhoShould it be a subpage of the Fantasy Universe section or Koldenwelt section
19:37.19GhelaeWhat page is this?
19:37.28OluapWorkerFantasy Universe I guess
19:37.36XhoGhelae: It's to do with standard types of materials used for armour, weaponry etc
19:37.57XhoAnd quite possibly adding sections for named weapons/sets of armours under said sections
19:38.08XhoAs well as using legendary/otherworldly materials
19:38.11Ghelaehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe/Important_Topics/Weapon_technology outdated page is, obviously, under Fantasy Universe, so I'd say that this page would be also.
19:38.39XhoHm
19:38.44XhoTime to rework it then
19:39.06XhoSo for materials it would be along the lines of iron, steel, adamantine, orichalcum and other materials
19:39.31XhoAnd I thought it would be an idea to have sets of armours as images in said pages
19:39.52GhelaeImages are always good.
19:40.25XhoWeapons well
19:40.32XhoI dunno whether images of weapons would work
19:40.44XhoThere's not exactly much freedom to create objects in Spore
19:41.02XhoAnd weapons in particular
19:41.18XhoAnd unique kinds of weapons
19:41.29GhelaeThe building and vehicle creators can sometimes work quite well with enough patience.
19:41.35XhoTrue
19:41.40XhoBut I am severely impatient
19:41.52GhelaeObviously, the vehicle creator tends to be better for making guns.
19:43.10XhoTo begin it would be an idea to figure out what materials are used in Koldenwelt
19:43.38XhoIron, Steel, Adamantine, Orichalcum and Darkstone are the only ones I can figure
19:43.42XhoAnd the material that Shiarchon use
19:43.45XhoI don't really have a name for it
19:43.55GhelaeWhat is is like?
19:43.57Ghelaeit*
19:44.47XhoWell, stronger than the average metal used for armour but not as strong as Adamantine
19:45.33XhoVisually it looks similar to darkstone but proves not to be that strong
19:45.50GhelaeIt could be Koldenwelt's version of Damascus steel.
19:46.10XhoPossibly
19:46.52XhoIn the time that Koldenwelt is set, Damascus steel would be extraordinarily hard
19:47.38GhelaeAs for other materials, we could consider a basic real-world classification: metals, ceramics, and biological materials.
19:47.45XhoHm yeah
19:48.01XhoWhat kind of ceramics would you use for technology though
19:48.17XhoWhen I think ceramics I think crafted gunpowder bombs of the likes
19:48.53GhelaeI'm not sure about direct military applications. It's really things like bricks, pottery, cement and glass.
19:49.02GhelaeAt least, with Koldenwelt-scale technology.
19:50.40GhelaeUnless you want to say that Darkstone is a kind of magical ceramic.
19:50.50XhoI suppose it would be
19:50.51XhoSort of
19:52.00XhoDarkstone is very similar to a rock but I dunno whether it could be processed into ceramics
19:53.10XhoProperly crafted Darkstone swords are just crafted from massive slabs or columns
19:53.53GhelaeDarkstone might need to be in its own category of magical materials; we'll have to see.
19:54.07XhoWell it might fall into otherworldly materials
19:54.24GhelaeThat could be a useful category.
19:54.36GhelaeFor biological materials, wood, cloth, and rope are obvious choices. Some civilisations might use bones, skin and sinews instead (or in addition; they do have their uses, after all).
19:55.05XhoYeah
19:55.32XhoI can imagine in extension some crafts have used bone in mixture with other materials to make it a harder material
19:55.36Xhoi,e. armour
19:56.25XhoSome kind of resin or something
19:56.32XhoReminds me of that armour from Skyrim
19:57.14GhelaeSome creatures probably have natural bony plates in their skin; they might end up being skinned and having that flesh used for armour.
19:57.26XhoTrue ture
19:57.28Xho*true
19:59.13XhoI'm just trying to think how crafting from Darkstone would happen
19:59.24XhoSimilar to how one would sculpt from marble
19:59.53XhoBut considering it's a material heavier, infinitely more endurable and sharper than marble it would be difficult without the proper tools
20:01.10XhoUsing darkstone itself to sculpt from darkstone is the only suggestible method from crafting it
20:01.19XhoAlthough using manners of void magic might work
20:01.23XhoAnyway brb
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20:13.24GhelaeHello.
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20:14.29Wormyhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Wormulon/Rights_of_Earth
20:14.32Wormyhi
20:19.28Xho_AwayRight back
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20:19.47The_RandomnessHello everyone
20:20.10Sporeraptorhi
20:20.33XhoSo where were we
20:20.35GhelHello.
20:21.31GhelXho: For metals, there are probably going to be a lot of types used on Koldenwelt, especially considering alloys. Of course, the applications of lots of the specific metals and alloys are likely to be few.
20:21.53XhoHm
20:22.00XhoMight be an idea just to focus on the few then
20:22.22GhelSo we could consider them in groups, such as ferrous metals (e.g. iron, Shiarchon steel and probably adamantine) and precious/noble metals (gold, silver, electrum, orichalcum, etc).
20:22.22XhoI think labelling every single metal in Koldenwelt in use might be slightly painful
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20:25.40AdmiralPandahi
20:25.41GhelHello.
20:25.48Wormyhi
20:25.48The_RandomnessHello
20:27.34CyrannianHello there
20:30.43Cyrannianhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BF0bdLuCYAEdE2B.jpg:large - I'm so annoyed this episode wasn't produced.
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20:32.02Sporeraptorhi
20:32.05WormyStar Trek:  The Volvic Commercial edition
20:32.12WormyHello
20:32.14GhelHello.
20:32.48The_RandomnessHello
20:33.00CyrannianDoes anyone follow this on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TNG_S8
20:33.19The_RandomnessHeard of it, but I don't.
20:41.16XhoHm
20:41.55XhoLack of Oluap makes Xho needy for abusing people
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20:42.09Hachi__Okay so it was more than a few hours nap
20:42.11GhelHello.
20:42.19CyrannianHello
20:42.31MonetSemiMorning
20:42.34Sporeraptorhi
20:42.49XhoOkay I can abuse Hachi then
20:42.56XhoNot exactly Oluap but it'll do
20:43.48XhoBah can't be bothered
20:43.49XhoToo lazy
20:44.26Hachi__Aye that you are
20:45.21XhoRight it might be a better idea to rework that page tomorrow
20:45.25XhoI have more time tomorrow
20:48.48AdmiralPandahai buni
20:49.20AdmiralPandahttp://cheezburger.com/8067159296 Somebody needs to kill themselves.
20:51.03Hachi__"heterosapiens"
20:51.55CyrannianMy favourite unproduced TNG episode is the one where "The crew discovers a planet populated by billions of Riker clones. Picard brokers peace between the bearded majority and non-bearded rebels."
20:52.14Hachi__olol
20:54.13XhoCyrannian: I was thinking about something Fantasy-related
20:55.01XhoYou know on your page on Lindariel that you mention Aranhilwen and she's an ancient elven queen and whatnot
20:55.10CyrannianAye
20:55.31XhoPerhaps she's had a few meetings with Constantius or Kalarah or whatever you want to call him
20:55.44XhoPerhaps in Kalarah's attempts to expand his dominion and she's all like "NOH"
20:56.04Hachi__expand kalarah
20:56.15XhoHachi__: SHIARCHON DONG IS NOT FOR EXPANSION
20:56.23Hachi__IS NAO
20:56.26XhoNOOOOOOOOOOOH
20:56.36AdmiralPandaoh god
20:57.51CyrannianIf the Shiarchon are the descendants of the Orichalcum Elves, perhaps my elves are also descended from them but choose a different path?
20:57.55AdmiralPandaanyway, I'll be back in like two hours
20:57.59XhoCyrannian: That works well
20:58.02CyrannianAnd your idea also sounds good
20:58.13AdmiralPandathen I can throw Hachi down a well because reasons
20:58.42XhoRealistically speaking he and Aranhilwen would have met very close to the Shiarchon's establishment c. 15,000 years ago
20:59.30XhoAs for him that would be a time where his appearance would have started to darken from the former unrealistically beautiful appearance of the Orichalcum Elves
20:59.54XhoBecause now he's a ghostly disembodied corpse walking in armour
20:59.59Hachi__Does this mean that Orichalcum Elves had large tits
21:00.09XhoHachi__: All of them had amazing chests
21:00.09CyrannianOoh, perhaps they were lurvers
21:00.20XhoCyrannian: dis idea is gud
21:00.43XhoAlthough the nomenclature between your elves and my elves are different so I dunno what happens there
21:01.06XhoEither they took those names after the Orichlacum Elves broke down or they were of a western culture
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21:01.14CatfaceHi.
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21:01.28XhoTechnically speaking Orichalcum Elf names are of a strictly eastern culture
21:01.32The_Randomnesscatfaic
21:01.56WormyHello
21:02.01GhelHello.
21:02.03CyrannianThey probably choose a different name after they broke down and then developed their own culture in the time since
21:02.24XhoAh I see
21:04.49XhoI was gonna say that perhaps Lindariel is a child of Aranhilwen and Kalarah but considering she's 3,500 odd years old that wouldn't work
21:05.11XhoKalarah would have transformed into a Shiarchon well over 10,000 years before that and you probably have ideas already
21:05.48CatfaceXho: Fried to death http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciDZa1dQNSM
21:08.07CyrannianNo, not really :P Perhaps I could retcon her age?
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21:09.27SpuIf you want to retcon her age, she'd be anywhere between 14,950 and 15,720 years old
21:09.45SpuKalarah is roughly 15,750 years old
21:10.14CyrannianHer age isn't really fictionally important so 14,950 sounds good
21:10.32SpuKalarah - crap i hav children i dunt kno about
21:11.31SpuRight should we update that or not
21:11.51CyrannianSure, I'll update it on her page now
21:14.38MonetSemihttp://retrorecipe.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/vph-meme.jpg?w=500 creepiest cookshow of the 20th century?
21:15.03The_Randomnesshue
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21:15.34SpuCyrannian: Hell, Lindariel is elvish royalty to two kingdoms
21:15.47Spudat some heritage rite dere
21:15.56CatfaceCyrannian: I have from now until Saturday to get something done with that war if you're no too annoyed with me.
21:16.17Sporeraptorhi
21:17.14Ecoraptorhi dere
21:17.38SpuI might redo Kalarah's appearance again
21:17.43SpuMight make him look more like a Void Guardian
21:17.53SpuTechnically he does wear their kind of armour
21:19.14CyrannianCatface: I want a divorce
21:19.34CatfaceCyrannian: Take the kids, please.
21:19.40WormyGaming AI's to be used in interplanetary rovers http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22129574.700-robots-with-humanlike-brains-to-take-on-mars-unaided.html#.UwZwNfl_t8E
21:19.55CyrannianCatface: I can probably roleplay tomorrow if you are free
21:20.22SpuCyrannian: Actually thinking about it it might be better if she were older than 14,950, probably closer to 15,300
21:20.45Spu14,950 means Kalarah wasn't really an Orichalcum Elf at that point, sort if in a transitional state into a Shiarchon
21:21.06SpuIf that were the case she'd look sort of 'off' as an elf
21:21.21CyrannianAnd secks would be painful for Arenhilwen.
21:21.33SpuWell at that point he still resembled a human
21:21.55SpuJust that his skin was pale, his eyes were beginning to go into an infernal red and he wore black instead of gold
21:21.55Hachi__"Human"
21:21.58SpuElf
21:22.01SpuDeiwos
21:22.05Spukicks Hachi__ into the sun
21:22.13Hachi__is the wiener sun
21:22.21Spuwithdraws that statement
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21:22.30Technobliteratorhiya
21:22.30Sporeraptorhi
21:22.35CyrannianHi there
21:22.45GhelHello.
21:22.46Hachi__Where the fuck is my sandwich
21:22.54MonetSemiHachi__ is the wiener god.
21:22.54Spu15,300 years ago would mean that Kalarah was still an Orichalcum Elf
21:22.58MonetSemiWe all know this
21:23.04Hachi__Aye
21:23.15SpuAs for their relationship though
21:23.20SpuThat would have been an awkward one
21:23.23WormyDon't stand near wind turbines diring a storm http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25089-spinning-wind-turbines-spark-clockwork-lightning.html#.UwZwXPl_t8E
21:23.35SpuConstantius wasn't exactly the nicest character so he probably hid a lot of his true personality from her
21:24.11SpuAnd when I say 'not the nicest'
21:24.25SpuHe did murder his father and sister as well as speculated to have murder other siblings
21:24.32Spumurdered*
21:25.12SpuBut being one of the most powerful individuals in the world at that point there's a lot that one can hide
21:25.29CyrannianIndeed, that would be a reasonable reason behind a split :P
21:30.17SpuAranhilwen - i luv u       Constantius - i luv u and also i sort of murdered my entire family and turned our race into deemuns         Aranhilwen - pack ur shit ur leevin'
21:30.20dromuh guys
21:30.20SpuAnd that's the amazing linguistic complexity of elves
21:30.20dromwhatcha doing?
21:30.20Cyrannianlol
21:30.20SpuCyrannian: That being said it would have been more likely that she didn't agree with the whole Orichalcum Elf exodus into Abyssus, and he found her later on and then sort of told her all of his ballistic ideas
21:30.20SpuAnd that sort of really broke it down after she realised that he was a maddened Caligaduro servant
21:30.20Hachi__So does this mean that Lindariel is an Orichalcum elf
21:30.20SpuHachi__: Biologically yes but magic does wonderful things
21:30.20SpuMy guess is she would have turned into an Doredhelwen Elf after the Orichalcum Elves died out
21:30.20SpuIn the same way the Shiarchon were turned as well as the Apeksaka
21:30.21SpuDoredhelwen Elves got off lucky by the sounds of it
21:30.44SpuBut that's up to Cyrannian really
21:31.45SpuThat's the gist of it but how that happened or why isn't up to me
21:31.45SpuA change in magic perhaps I dunno
21:31.46CyrannianIndeed, perhaps they "evolved" due to the magical nature of their settled region
21:31.46SpuWould make sense
21:32.23SpuApeksaka use Dark Source, Shiarchon use void magic and the Doredhelwen Elves use Source
21:33.23SpuThe Source seems to be the most diverse of the types of magic
21:33.26Hachi__I can't find Spore's instruction manual so I can't enter the registration code or some shit like that
21:33.30Hachi__I think I may have fucked myself over
21:33.51SpuVoid magic and other magic from different worlds seem to be based on one sole characteristic
21:34.01SpuVoid magic being basically super-negative and anything else seems to be the same
21:34.07SpuHachi__: Get another copy hur
21:34.14Hachi__noh can't buy
21:34.17SpuIt's a 6 year old game
21:34.20SpuSales are likely
21:34.31SpuWell 5
21:35.07SpuCyrannian: That does mean Lindariel's uncle is the last living pure Orichalcum Elf
21:35.17CatfaceI can't get the damn creepy and cute pack to work.
21:35.25CatfaceOn the steam version I bought.
21:35.28Spuhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Septimus
21:35.37GhelThe Source is supposed to be effectively omnipotent (in terms of what powers are possible; literal omnipotence with the Source is obviously not something that tends to happen).
21:36.00SpuKinmo/Yakshrapala - bullshit
21:36.27GhelI've had some thoughts on how it works, so to speak; it could work on the power of abstraction, where abstract concepts attain real influence as though they're material things.
21:36.51GhelUsually the concept of choice is intent, as expressed through magical rituals and spells.
21:37.51GhelThis is basically where a lot of real-life supernatural beliefs come from, including various proto/pseudo-sciences such as alchemy and homeopathy.
21:38.37SpuRight
21:39.15WormyWork hard enough and you can conjour thoughtforms and altered states out of it.
21:40.09WormyGhel:  By abstractions, would they be the same class as abstract concepts like mathematical objects?
21:40.10SpuGhel: As far as I can tell magic in its own universe is at its most powerful but that would conflict with the ideas of Simulacra magic
21:40.42SpuSimulacra magic isn't from the source since they're essentially alien
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21:41.55GhelWormy: Not really, I'd say it's the other way around; mathematical objects could be part of the general concept of abstraction. Perhaps the Source is even strong emergence made manifest.
21:42.17GhelSpu: I don't know nearly enough about the non-Source types of magic in the fantasyverse.
21:42.47SpuWell there's three different types of magic that's quite identifiable
21:43.00SpuPhoenix magic [sun/moon]  and Void Magic
21:43.14SpuVoid Magic being summed up by one word which is 'Caligaduro'
21:43.46SpuPhoenix magic is in its own way similar to the Source but cosmologically from being worlds above their magic is different
21:43.57SpuIn what way is enigmatic but I will have to find a way
21:44.19GhelSo are cosmological considerations the main thing distinguishing different types of magic?
21:44.25SpuMainly
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21:45.06SpuIf it weren't for the fact that Caligaduro is from the darkest pits of all universes then his ancient rule over Koldenwelt wouldn't happen since Yakshrapala would have beaten his ass a million times over
21:45.15Spuwouldn't have happened*
21:45.41SpuThat and it has unnatural effects on those who use it i.e. Shiarchon
21:45.50SpuSince they're now walking infernal corpses
21:46.53Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Lindariel - If you don't read this, a giant pigeon will descend from the heavens and do naughty things to your body.
21:47.07The_Randomnesskinky
21:47.09SpuAs for Phoenix magic it's due to the fact that Kinmorunddraver in terms of power is indistinguishable from Yakshrapala and has a lot more otherworldly characteristics to it
21:47.31SpuIf I were Yakshrapala I would make it so that Kinmorunddraver would be second to me
21:47.52SpuThe fact that Yakshrapala identifies him as a friend of Isiris probably means he and his type of magic is alien but not unfriendly
21:48.11Hachi__Considering Yakshrapala is the will of the planet, I think Kinmo is second to him Yak hur
21:48.18SpuTrue
21:48.56SpuBut in those terms Kinmo could be potentially as powerful but isn't because Kinmo isn't an incarnate consciousness of Isiris, Midnight nor Zenith
21:49.33Hachi__And then you have the avatars of Yak
21:50.07Hachi__All of whom can be potentially devastating individuals in terms of power once they've discovered their condition as an avatar
21:50.21SpuCyrannian: The awkward moment when Lindariel is informed that Kalarah is her father
21:50.24SpuDarth Vader 2.0
21:50.36Hachi__Thing is, Yak doesn't just incarnate as good people; he often manifests as neutral and evil guys as well
21:50.56SpuKinmo - ur just lucky i was dere before u created death
21:51.04Hachi__Because Yak is an unpredictable entity hur
21:51.23SporeraptorFinally I finished the android army, could someone please quote here: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Troodontid_Empire/Military/Androids
21:51.36GhelI suppose there might be an overarching concept of magic, and different things going on in different worlds have shaped this magic into its different cosmological forms. After all, the concept of realised abstraction applied to the Source should allow the Source itself to be shaped like any piece of technology.
21:52.42SpuHachi__: I guess Yakshrapala views Kinmo as a friend from a different world then
21:52.49SpuAs well as Soldalatel and Aethereus
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21:53.04Hachi__Aye
21:53.07Sporeraptorhi
21:53.08GhelHello.
21:53.12The_RandomnessHello
21:53.52SpuIt's difficult to place Kinmo's identity in Koldenwelt since I'm conflicted on whether he's a Simulacra, minor simulacra or an entity from universes above Koldenwelt
21:53.58SpuEither way he's not from Koldenwelty
21:54.01Spu*Koldenwelt
21:54.12SpuOr his kind anyway
21:54.32SpuAlthough I should mention that Phoenixes in general were nowhere near as powerful as Kinmo in Koldenwelt
21:55.15GhelSome Colossi and Simulacra seem to have associated species, so perhaps there are varying grades of power within these species.
21:55.16SpuThere's a story behind it but it isn't really relevant to modern times in Koldenwelt
21:56.22GhelSo like Phoenixes have Simulacrum-grade, Kinmo-grade, and regular-Phoenix-grade; Kelodhres have Colossus-Drake-grade, regular-True-Drake-grade, and smaller-Kelodhros grade.
21:56.39SpuSort of
21:57.01SpuPhoenix degrees of power is sort of messed up
21:57.15SpuIn technical terms, Kinmo has more power in Koldenwelt than Soldalatel and Aethereus
21:57.30GhelI don't expect all species to fit into neat categories like that, but it's the general gist of things.
21:57.46SpuFor reasons which might change one's opinion of Kinmo slightly
21:58.24SpuI mean Soldalatel and Aethereus are incarnations of day and night but that's different
21:58.44SpuAt that level it's all a theory really
21:59.12SpuAll I will stop on is that phoenixes are old and are from different worlds that are closely linked to Koldenwelt
22:00.05TekDroidThere we go; had trouble getting in earlier
22:00.54SpuAnd Kinmorunddraver is a complete enigma in terms of native powers/origin
22:02.12SpuBut that far back, this was before the ideas of death and cavemen cultures
22:03.01SpuFirst cultures on Koldenwelt seem to be the Sohet, Orichalcum Elves and the Night Elves
22:03.39SpuAll of them appearing within about 50,000 years of Caligaduro smashing the phoenixes into roast pheasant
22:03.50SpuI dunno when the Sohet appeared though
22:04.20SpuProbably within the same time the phoenixes were smashed
22:04.48SpuOrichalcum Elves appeared roughly 280,000 years ago and the Night Elves 250,000
22:05.23SpuAnd then multiple cultures after that and boom modern world
22:05.46SpuBut 250,000 years ago + is sort of the pseudo-mythological age
22:06.01SpuThere seems to be nothing between 250,000 to 50,000 years ago historically however
22:06.29Spu50,000 years to 15,000 years ago history is vague and then it's modern Koldenwelt from there on
22:07.41SpuI guess 250,000 to 50,000 years ago was basically multitudes of death
22:08.02SpuVoid denizens and Id denizens sort of messing up Koldenwelt
22:08.18Hachi__Aye
22:08.54SpuHistory doesn't properly begin until 40,000 years ago really by the looks of it
22:09.10Cyrannianhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/p403x403/1623307_1465042877041974_875193135_n.jpg - My Hellhounds
22:09.14SpuThat's sort of the furthest back the Orichalcum Elf history survives to and that's where most ancient cultures began
22:09.24SpuCyrannian: I was expecting Cerberus
22:09.31SpuInstead I got a two headed dog
22:09.35SpuWith separate bodies for each head
22:09.56CyrannianYou just broke my brain
22:10.06WormyI'm feeling all Christmassey again
22:10.20Spufarthest*
22:11.06SpuAs for most users including myself the last 15,000 years of Koldenwelt is the most important
22:11.19SpuAnything before that is rough, mostly legendary and theoretical
22:12.09Hachi__ngh great I may be without Spore again
22:12.49SpuAnd that's the end of how Xho completely dominated the ancient history of the Fantasy Universe with everyone getting rather angry about it
22:13.18SpuI mean everyone's free to add more ancient cultures since many of them would have existed at that time
22:13.25Hachi__Well
22:13.26Hachi__fuk u I call fey precursors
22:13.28SpuBut all of them would have probably been destroyed by Caligaduro
22:13.34SpuOr other Simulacra
22:14.16SpuThere's only two entities as far as I know who survived Caligaduro's first onslaught and that's Kinmorunddraver and AkhemazdrĂ­s the Unending
22:14.55SpuThen again the only things who did inhabit Koldenwelt at that time were Elementals, Phoenixes and Drakes
22:15.05Cyrannianhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/301780_379037958794535_1072514224_n.jpg
22:15.19SpuCyrannian: geezush
22:15.45Sporeraptorbye
22:15.48CyrannianAnd that baby grew up to become Winston Churchill.
22:15.54SpuDrakes were quite possibly the first real physical inhabitants of Koldenwelt and not Phoenixes if you consider them to be alien
22:16.14SpuOr the first Kelodhres races
22:16.38SpuThere would have been the first Deiwos and Beast races as well
22:17.10SpuThe only way I could say that later races formed was that Caligaduro wasn't interested in destroying them
22:18.04SpuCaligaduro destroyed the first Drakes due to the fact they were closely associated with the Phoenixes, hence kaboom
22:18.22SpuWhy it took him 50,000 years to do that I dunno
22:18.29SpuPerhaps fancied a kit kat or two
22:18.55SpuOr Soldalatel and Ancient Colossi really gave him a hard time
22:19.06SpuWhich sounds more correct
22:19.23SpuSo in that case the original inhabitants of Koldenwelt were Drakes, Elementals and Colossi
22:19.40SpuAll of them were immense entities well attuned with the Source so it sounds about right
22:20.09SpuAs for the mortal races, well that's where creation myths come in hur
22:20.13SpuReal reasons for that I can't explain
22:20.27SpuAnd everyone would have a different opinion that one
22:21.13SpuKoldenwelt was probably totally inhabited by ancient god-like cultures until Caligaduro came along, those three being those with the survivng names
22:21.22SpuCould probably come up with an entire page of theories
22:22.23SpuBut like I said, the last 15,000 are the most important really
22:22.31DrodoEmpireSo in case anyone was wondering, the development of the SW mod for EUIV is a bit stalled right now; I'm still trying to figure out a problem with it
22:22.47DrodoEmpireWell, a few; chief among them the tech group issue
22:22.50SpuAnd ancient myths from other cultures like the Elvish Pantheon and what Dino came up with are perfectly feasible in the past 300,000 years
22:23.30DrodoEmpireAnd the "validator" is useless; so I have to actually find the problem by hand and fix it
22:23.58SpuGhel: Developing from that we should probably form a page with creation myths and/or ancient culture theories
22:24.22GhelThat could be done.
22:25.06GhelWe could make it into an actual fiction, with creation myths being written as short stories.
22:25.12SpuCould do
22:25.36SpuIt would be good for me to add the whole account on the destruction of the Phoenixes & Drakes
22:26.03SpuI might have predominantly set a lot of strict rules on the ancient history of Koldenwelt but there's a lot of holes to fill in still
22:26.18SpuEspecially with precursor cultures
22:26.35SpuAnything in the time of the Phoenixes/Drakes had no real effect on cultures afterwards
22:27.07SpuThe only reason that they're still remembered is because Kinmo is alive and that the Forgotten Lands is littered with Storm Drake bones
22:27.27SpuNothing is biologically related to their kind so anything in the time of the first ancient life forming is completely subjective
22:27.45GhelIf we're dealing with cultural myths and theories, a lot of societies may be unaware of this history anyway.
22:27.55SpuThat too
22:28.10SpuThe Orichalcum Elves went through a number of cultural myths
22:28.28SpuThe first being that they were created by the sun in order to tame Sun Drakes
22:28.39SpuWhen the Sun Drakes were killed off it kind of disproved that
22:28.51SpuSo they adopted what seemed to be the Elvish Pantheon or a proto-religion to it
22:29.18SpuAnd then after they realised that Caligaduro had ruled Koldenwelt for like 300,000 years they then moved to the belief that Caligaduro was their god
22:29.33SpuAnd then that kind of fell apart when Caligaduro was defeated and that's when they split up
22:29.48SpuAlthough the belief in Caligaduro was tenuous at best
22:30.01SpuIt wasn't a popular belief although it did influence a lot of their culture
22:30.10SpuIn the last 3,000 years or so
22:30.58SpuKalarah being at the forefront of it in the last 750 years of their civilisation or so
22:31.50SpuBut the Orichalcum Elves were rather accepting of different adaptations of religion in their time so a lot of theories would have arose when most Deiwos cultures lived under their rule
22:32.07SpuI have no clue about greater cultures in Kelodhres and Beast races though
22:33.02Hachi__So yeah great, lost my Spore key, may as well hand over fiction now
22:33.17SpuThey don't seem to exist really apart from the Cobalt Kingdom and the Khep Dominion
22:33.24SpuHachi__: Dunno why you should, I barely create things and I still write
22:34.06SpuJust save up for another copy
22:34.14SpuSell something I dunno
22:34.31Technobliteratori'm so bored
22:34.40Technobliteratori really want to do more war of the cleansing flames stuff
22:34.45Technobliteratorbut i can't do it alone :(
22:35.12SpuBut there is my piece for the night, but I do emphasise on the fact that what I have set in place only really influences my stuff
22:35.37SpuI mean things like Caligaduro's rule will influence most people's stuff but not to a great degree if any
22:37.51SpuBut yeah as soon as that page is set up feel free to set your own theories because it won't really conflict with my theories
22:38.16SpuMainly because it's set before such theories would arise and is essentially irrelevant in the eyes of what happens after it
22:38.42Technobliteratoranyone wanna join my war?
22:38.59SpuTechnobliterator: I would but the idea it's in 2800 means it might run into Tantum
22:39.10SpuSo I might not have any active characters at that time
22:39.28SpuWell
22:39.32SpuTantum might run into it
22:40.10TechnobliteratorI was hoping that it could happen after Tantum is over
22:40.11Technobliteratorpart 2 definitely will, but idk about part 1
22:40.27SpuI mean I could shorten the time in fiction but the results of the war is still foggy at best so my characters might or might not be still active or even alive at the end of it
22:40.55SpuYou're better off setting it in 2796 really
22:41.05Technobliteratorbefore? that wouldn't work
22:41.12Spuy not
22:41.24Technobliteratorcuz uno existed then and did stuff in Ice Age
22:41.36SpuTantum as far as I know could run into 2820
22:41.38dromsomething is clogging up to my connection
22:41.41dromsee ya
22:41.41SpuA bit of an overstatement
22:41.43SpuWell
22:41.46SpuA massive overstatement
22:41.54SpuI don't really want Tantum to go over 2800
22:42.00Hachi__I dunno if Kalcedia could participate really because if she separates from USO like I planned she wouldn't be working with the Tantum guys
22:42.14Hachi__If Tantum runs into it that is
22:42.26SpuIt's currently set in 2796
22:42.43SpuI see it ending in 2798 if it goes quick
22:42.51Spu2800 if it goes slow
22:43.12Technobliteratorso, are we deciding that it should end early 2800?
22:43.20Technobliteratorif not, I can always change 2800 to even later
22:43.20SpuNot really no
22:43.34SpuI don't know when Tantum will end fictionally
22:43.40SpuI'll have to think for a sec
22:44.03SpuSo we have 3 plots which will probably be around three months in real time, the rest would be longer
22:44.17SpuLate 2797 perhaps
22:44.35SpuAfter Tantum I have nothing major plotted
22:44.41Technobliteratorhmm
22:45.06SpuMost of my major ideas are spent on the Xhodocto who don't really serve as main villains in Tantum at the moment
22:45.24SpuAnd Tantum itself of course
22:45.37GhelI'm going to go now. Bye!
22:45.43SpuI do have some stories set outside of Tantum but that's major spoilers
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22:45.53SpuBecause it would affect Tantum if I did
22:45.56Spuspoil that is
22:46.44SpuOther than that nothing
22:47.18Technobliteratorwell...so it should end by 2800, but we aren't sure?
22:47.18SpuYeah pretty much
22:47.42SpuThere are some ideas swimming in my head that will occur during Tantum and might develop after Tantum but it isn't centred on the Dominion
22:48.07SpuAnd it doesn't effect Borealis
22:48.12SpuAnd that's the extent of those spoilers
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22:48.41AdmiralPandahai
22:48.52Technobliteratorwell, if that's the case, then you can probably join, but if worst comes to worst, I'll set it to happen after 2800
22:48.53Technobliteratorhii
22:49.07AdmiralPandawhat's this?
22:49.08SpuTechnobliterator: Well I don't know the fate of my characters at this point
22:49.10Hachi__Hello
22:49.12SpuSome might die some might not
22:49.35SpuNu was already killed and Nu's essentially the strongest of my characters
22:50.17Technobliteratorokay that's a good point
22:50.34Technobliteratorjust retcon if needs be
22:50.45SpuSince the plot will escalate after this
22:50.49SpuThis one that is
22:50.55Technobliterator[22:42] <Hachi__> I dunno if Kalcedia could participate really because if she separates from USO like I planned she wouldn't be working with the Tantum guys [22:42] <Hachi__> If Tantum runs into it that is
22:50.59Technobliteratorshe will
22:51.28SpuI do intend Tantum to run into an all-out Gigaquadrantic mashup but it will likely not happen
22:51.32Hachi__She wouldn't because the rest of UNOC would be there
22:51.33Hachi__Or USOC or whatever
22:51.39Technobliteratorregardless of whether the War of the Cleansing Flames runs into it - which it won't - UNOC and Tuolog still work in the Tantum team despite everything that happened with USO
22:52.18SpuIt will probably mix Andromeda and Borealis and possibly any other galaxy that wants to be a part of it but it will remain centred on Andromeda
22:53.07Technobliteratorso please guys, don't be scared to use whoever you want in this war because of tantummodo
22:53.39SpuWell that's difficult for me but I dunno about anyone else
22:53.48CyrannianDidn't you say you wanted a vacation in Cyrannus? I was alright with that.
22:53.57SpuCyrannian: That was Ice Age
22:54.30SpuTantum runs with it chronologically and has interwoven with it twice but they're quite far apart
22:54.30CyrannianOh yes, but if you want something similar in Cyrannus for Tantum, that's fine
22:54.36Technobliteratorseriously don't be scared, this is my fiction you're talking about. I'm the one who invented time travel :P
22:54.39MonetSemiTechnobliterator: I could contribute with the DI. They do have colonies in the Ottzello sector.
22:54.56TechnobliteratorMonetSemi: yeah, sounds like a plan. we can discuss it any time you want
22:55.11MonetSemiDo you have time now?
22:55.12SpuCyrannian: I would but considering my fiction is generally spontaneously omnicidal it wouldn't begin nor end well, I'd have to figure something out
22:55.15Technobliteratoryeah
22:55.22Technobliterator35 minutes left before I have to go
22:55.30CyrannianTechnobliterator: I was planning on creating an Ottzelloan Libertus character a while back, perhaps I could create one for the Clenasing Flames
22:55.32SpuAnyway I gotta go now because work tomorrow
22:55.32Technobliterator(also I'm going on a 2 day holiday tomorrow)
22:55.35Cyrannian*Cleansing
22:55.39SpuAnd I'm gonna sleep pretty heavily I think
22:55.48TechnobliteratorCyrannian: aww nice, that'd be awesome
22:56.11CyrannianMaybe as a criminal or a bounty hunter of some kind
22:56.25Technobliteratordepends which side you want to join
22:56.30Technobliteratorthere is no good side, both sides are bad
22:56.34Technobliteratoreither tyranny or anarchy
22:56.41Technobliteratoroh that reminds me
22:56.47SpuTechnobliterator: I could use different characters altogether of course but that many characters in full swing is hard
22:57.05CyrannianHm, anarchy would be interesting. It isn't the first word that springs to mind when I think "Libertus".
22:57.11Technobliteratorwith this war, there will be no consequences for your actions in terms of which side you join. if you join against USO, nothing will happen at the end of it
22:57.27Hachi__Then what would be the point in joining
22:57.31Spurite ded
22:57.34Technobliteratoryeah, anarchy is very much "criminal or bounty hunter" like you said
22:57.43Technobliterator[22:57] <Hachi__> Then what would be the point in joining
22:57.49Technobliteratorbecause you changed the course of the war?
22:57.58AdmiralPandabut there's no consequences
22:58.01Hachi__But you said there were no consequences
22:58.07Technobliteratorthere are no *diplomatic* consequences
22:58.08AdmiralPandachanging one type of nothing to another type of nothing is still achieving nothing
22:59.00Technobliteratorone problem with the Great Cyrannus War (sorry to point fingers Cyr) was that people would just join the URC side because they were already allies with the URC, or because they were worried about the URC winning the war then hating them afterwards
22:59.07Technobliteratorthis won't be the case with the Cleansing Flames
22:59.24Technobliteratorwill there be direct consequences of your involvement? yes. will they affect who you are friends with at the end? no
23:00.04Hachi__Right then
23:00.06Hachi__I'll have Kalcedia go with anarchy then
23:00.13Technobliteratoryeah that's fine
23:00.28Technobliteratorshe'll need to have Tuolog free her from the System though, but I'm sure that's plausible
23:00.29Hachi__May contribute some characters later but since I don't have Spore and won't have it for dunno how long I'm unsure
23:00.42Technobliteratorno worries at all
23:00.57Technobliteratorthe character based stuff is mostly in part 2
23:02.47CyrannianNo worries, the war did start with the URC being the undisputed good guy. It was only later in the war that it started to become more balanced.
23:03.17Technobliteratorwhat I tried to do here was make it so both sides are so extreme, there really IS no good guy
23:03.27Technobliteratorthey are both equally bad
23:05.16AdmiralPandaFordanta - Meh kill both of them
23:07.36Technobliteratorpart 1 isn't rp'd much, only some of the 'boss battles'
23:08.54MonetSemiI suddenly wonder how WWII would have gone if it was a series of boss battles.
23:09.16AdmiralPandalol
23:09.29AdmiralPandaI'm imagining WWII as a Street-Fighter-esque game
23:09.32Technobliteratorhitler final boss
23:09.53Hachi__aka Wolfenstein
23:10.05MonetSemilol sotrue
23:10.12MonetSemiRobo-Hitler!
23:10.24Technobliteratorhas anyone seen robocop?
23:10.37Technobliteratorbecause if anyone has, imagine that but even stricter and you get USO
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23:11.52Technobliteratoryo Wormy, wanna get involved?
23:12.25MonetSemiI thought the whole Robocop initiative was because crime in Detroit had gotten completely and utterly out of control.
23:12.47MonetSemiLike...12-year-olds robbing a corner shop
23:12.51Technobliteratorconsidering Ottzello for a long while has basically been Detroit but worse, yeah
23:13.11MonetSemiNowhere is worse than Detroit.
23:13.29Technobliteratorafrica says hi
23:13.38CyrannianI'm from Detroit.
23:14.18Technobliteratorare you now? :o
23:14.27MonetSemiActually yeah, Cape Town is pretty messed up
23:14.43CyrannianMy mother is from Cape Town.
23:14.51Technobliteratoris she now? :o
23:14.59TekDroidI thought I was getting ignored for the past hour. Damn DC. XD
23:15.00CyrannianToday is like an insult that never stops
23:15.19Technobliteratorwhere was your father from?
23:15.32MonetSemiI heard a story from a uni friend that one guy tried to hijack a car by standing in front of it. When the cars ignored hi mand drove around him, he started shooting at everyone in sight.
23:15.56Technobliteratorholy crap
23:16.06CyrannianBirmingham :P
23:16.18MonetSemiApparently when the taxi drivers tell you to duck, they're not kidding.
23:17.08TekDroidO.o
23:17.19Technobliteratoroh well I live in Birmingham
23:17.24Technobliteratorlet's join in the being insulted
23:17.27Technobliteratorwooo
23:17.39MonetSemiBut you know Birmingham's a craphole...
23:17.50CyrannianHow awesome would it be if you turned out to be my father
23:18.14CyrannianAnd by awesome I mean frightening and unholy
23:18.35TekDroidO.o
23:18.54MonetSemiAren't you slightly older than Techno?
23:19.00WormyTechnobliterator:  Not sure, I've got a lot of fiction going.  But we'll see
23:19.22CyrannianThis is no time for logic Monet :P
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23:19.38Technobliteratoryeah, I'm the female father of Cyrannian, who needs logic at this point?
23:19.44TekDroidHey OfficerJackal
23:19.44Technobliterator[23:17] <MonetSemi> But you know Birmingham's a craphole...
23:19.48Technobliteratordepends what part of birmingham
23:20.08TechnobliteratorI've had some of the worst of it but that was when I lived in a different area
23:20.13MonetSemiI had a guy I knew in secondary school who tried to claim he's my dad, he was only three monds older than me.
23:20.27WormyThe roads are stupid around Birmingham
23:20.48WormyAnd there is that dreaded junction thing
23:21.44Technobliteratoryeah
23:21.46Technobliteratorthey really suck
23:21.47Cyrannianhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcQLMKXkcvI - These new STO ships have really impressive animations
23:22.00Technobliteratorso anyway guys. getting involved?
23:22.24AdmiralPandahttp://cheezburger.com/6962466816
23:22.36AdmiralPandaI'll wait and see a bit more of what happens
23:23.04AdmiralPandathere will probably be Fordanta involved at some point because Uriel has a Kill People button, but whether or not it's the Empire itself I can't say
23:24.28Technobliteratornot sure what I should do next in the fiction myself
23:25.42OfficerJackalIs sporewiki not showing up for anyone else?
23:25.48OfficerJackalOn your browser?
23:25.58OfficerJackalWhups, nvm.
23:26.50MonetSemiCyrannian: This Dyson Sphere tech seems to be causing a massive leap in scientific ability for the Alpha Quadrant
23:27.12MonetSemiAnd all from one Dyson sphere...
23:27.30CyrannianIndeed, and now they have two within their grasp
23:32.26WormySignificant advances for the Federation in the 25th century seems to be in tetryon (hypermatter) decay and transwarp
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23:33.34Wormyhi
23:39.47CyrannianIs anyone having problems with YouTube lately?
23:40.04MonetSemiHow do you mean?
23:40.35AdmiralPandanope
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23:41.54TybusenCyrannian: http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon - E-democracy in a shellnut
23:42.04AdmiralPandaMonetSemi: I wonder, does EVE have any generally accepted 'rules' about what's permitted in PvP?
23:42.22CyrannianWhen I try to play a video, the page refreshes but the audio continues which is pretty annoying when the video starts again
23:42.51WormyYes Cyrannian, I had a 500 error, hence "A team of highly trained monkeys has been dispatched to deal with this situation."
23:43.29MonetSemiAdmiralPanda: None that come to mind, no.
23:43.49AdmiralPandaThis game is more appealing now.
23:44.01AdmiralPandaDark Souls has this really stupid honour code that I just love ignoring
23:44.19MonetSemiI think I heard something about that from a friend
23:44.22AdmiralPandaI swear I win half my fights because people expect me to follow some arbitrary set of rules they made up with their friends
23:45.17MonetSemiPvP can get quite dirty in EvE
23:46.03Cyranniandat music
23:46.06AdmiralPandaI also get a lot of hate mail
23:46.29MonetSemiBecause you didn't follow the rules?
23:47.16CyrannianI'm interested in EvE, it looks like an interesting game.
23:47.25CyrannianWormy_STO: Will you have time to play STO at the weekend?
23:47.33Wormy_STOYes
23:47.38Wormy_STObut not too late
23:47.50MonetSemiCyrannian: Knowing you you'd love Alliance politics.
23:48.12CyrannianLooking at the payment options, I might try the 3 month deal
23:48.17Wormy_STOIt made me really ill staying up till 5 because I had a cold at the same time
23:48.18AdmiralPandayeah, because I don't follow the rules
23:48.43AdmiralPandaI sorta followed them at first, but after a while I just realised it was stupid
23:49.03CyrannianWormy_STO: Cool, I might have the Dyson Destroyer by then. Have you been trying to get one?
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23:49.18MonetSemiThere are people who spend months, or maybe even a year getting on good terms with the CEO, becoming all trusted and getting a high position before either selling out for a rival or sabotaging the corporation they spent so long inside.
23:49.28Wormy_STOI haven't other than the 400 bonus they give you at the start
23:49.30Wormy_STOHello.
23:49.43AdmiralPandaso now I just do everything and anything I can to win
23:49.59MonetSemiCyrannian: EvE has a buddy program so if you like I can send you an invitation
23:50.16MonetSemiYou get 21 days free.
23:50.30CyrannianMonetSemi: Jaysus, that's awfully kind of you
23:50.52CyrannianI don't know how I would repay that
23:51.19AdmiralPandaCyrannian: destroy his enemies and feed him poptarts
23:52.08CyrannianThat would be awesome Monet! Do you and AdmiralPanda meet up in the game?
23:52.18AdmiralPandaI don't play
23:52.37AdmiralPandaI was asking about EVE's PvP because of something that happens in Dark Souls
23:53.02CyrannianWhoops-a-daisy
23:53.56AdmiralPandaif we did, I'd probably just make it my mission to troll him relentlessly
23:54.02MonetSemiAdmiralPanda: Here's a fun tactic, fly up to an enemy fleet in a rookie ship, set up a cynosaural field (which allows other fleets to warp to your location) so your corp with their massive fleet can ambush your opponent without passing though a single jump gate connection.
23:54.19AdmiralPandaew
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23:54.42AdmiralPandanothing quite that dickish in Dark Souls
23:54.59AdmiralPandaprobably the closest is three Havel's using Tranquil Walk, you just don't win that
23:55.33MonetSemiThat name reminds me of another tactic... One of the most popular among ambushers and pirates
23:55.37MonetSemiWarp scramblers.
23:56.01AdmiralPandaI can guess that one

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