IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140219

00:02.37MonetI don't knwo why, but it seems rather wierd that the internet treats TOm Nook as if he deserves nomination in the Annual Heartless Bastard awards.
00:02.47The_RandomnessHeh
00:03.04MonetI know why they think that, and maybe its justified.
00:03.17TybusenTom Nook is actually a really nice guy
00:03.38TybusenSure he saddles you with backbreaking debt, but he lets you pay it at your own leisure and doesn't charge interest
00:04.36MonetConsidering that your character comes ot the town as either a migrant or a drifter depending on how you look at it, he does put a fair deal of faith in you.
00:05.38MonetPLus as you said, the debt can be paid iin your own time.
00:05.48MonetThat removes lik 70% of the badness.
00:06.35TybusenIn the first game, he gives you a job, no interviews or applications
00:06.44TybusenJust out of goodwill
00:07.19TybusenIf anything he's the nicest non-villager character in Animal Crossing
00:07.40MonetGranted your payment is in a ucrrency only applicalble to the village.
00:08.38MonetLike back in the old days when factory managers paid their employees in tokens that were only valid in shops the manager's company owned.
00:11.02MonetSO he's generous, yet manipulative.
00:11.38TybusenHe does force the home upgrades on you in the first games
00:13.35Monet"Oh you paid your morgage? That's nice, by the way I redid your house and because that cot bells I've extended your morgage"
00:13.50Monetcost*
00:19.31AdmiralPandaAt least he doesn't pull things out of his scrotum. Tanooki are known to do that.
00:20.38MonetEw
00:24.39Monethttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/Tom-nook.jpg then again...I do sense a certain "snobbishness" in his eyes.
00:25.19Hachi_I always thought Tom looked more high than anything
00:26.59MonetThat could explain his sense of logic...
00:32.34Monethttp://www.quickmeme.com/img/f3/f3a920cfe78e86ee4171858f8ac4b6cd37fcdad4471c80a1ae8dc3393859bc77.jpg
00:36.14Monethttp://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/095/8/a/apple_bottoms_by_puppypump101-d4v269q.jpg if video games ignored hammerspace.
00:36.48TybusenThe title of that picture
00:38.54MonetHmm, the average army soldier's gear load should not exceed 110lb
00:39.29AdmiralPandawhat's funny is that modern day soldiers aren't really carrying that much more than historical ones
00:39.29MonetWhich in metric is just under 50kg.
00:39.46AdmiralPandaa modern-day ADF soldier is only carrying about 10-12kg more than a Spartan did
00:39.52AdmiralPandait's just distributed differently
00:40.04MonetYet the average Skyrim player can carry over 200kg.
00:40.18AdmiralPandathat's max carry weight rather than efficient carry weight
00:40.54AdmiralPandaD&D does it much better, it has light encumbrance (no penalty), medium encumbrance (penalty to movement but not endurance) and heavy encumbrance (try to move two days straight in that and you break a leg)
00:42.11MonetI remember in games like NWN and Icewind Dale; carrying over 70% of the maximum carry weight slowed your character to a walk, exceeding that value immobilised them.
00:42.48MonetThen again the dragon-tooth sword in Deus Ex is 20lb.
00:42.59Monetthat seems rather heavy for a longsword.
00:43.00WormyI agree about it being distributed differently.  I remember they tried to make a selection of fit people go through what the Romans did using Roman outfit, they all struggled pathetically.
00:43.41AdmiralPandathat's retardedly heavy yeah, even claymores were hardly more than five kilograms
00:43.45AdmiralPandaor zweihanders for that matter
00:43.48MonetIt gets better.
00:43.56Monet<PROTECTED>
00:44.02MonetI don't think this thing is made of steel.
00:44.21AdmiralPanda"not a sword in the traditional sense"
00:44.25AdmiralPandait's a piece of edged metal
00:44.34AdmiralPandahow much more of a sword can it be?
00:45.38MonetWell its a piece of edged metal that can change its shape
00:45.59MonetAnd by that I mean its a self-sharpening sowrd
00:46.01AdmiralPandaif a shotel is considered a sword, anything can be
00:47.26MonetAlthough we're still taking a 3-4ft blade.
00:47.53AdmiralPandahow the actual fuck is a 3-4 foot blade 20lb?
00:48.13AdmiralPandathat's normal longsword length
00:48.16AdmiralPandabut like ten times the weight
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00:50.01OfficerJackalDang internet. :(
00:50.19AdmiralPandaOn that topic, Fordan training swords weigh five times as much as the real deal, and the actual swords are designed to be as light as possible while still maintaining integrity
00:50.42Monethttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110105172453/deusex/en/images/2/2f/ZHL-U1953.png this thing is the standard-issue assault rifle used by military forces in the 2050s.
00:50.47MonetStandard weight: 30lb.
00:50.58AdmiralPandaas the great Skallagrim once said, "Anyone who can actually LIFT the buster sword, let alone use one, would be utterly devastating with a longsword."
00:51.09AdmiralPandaMonet: wat
00:51.12AdmiralPandaankgor wat
00:51.25MonetI cannot comprehend that either
00:51.41MonetIt looks about 1 1/2ft long
00:52.00AdmiralPandalike I'm gonna need to go to Angkor Wat to meditate on that quantity of wat
00:53.25Monet"standard issue assault rifle" -> weighs in at 14kg.
00:53.28Monet13*
00:53.37MonetIs it made of solid iron or something?
00:54.14MonetI get the impression that wiedling that you'd risk breaking your arm or at least you'd sprain yourself
00:54.19Tybusen"No, no, no! You're not supposed to shoot it! You're supposed to throw it at the enemy soldiers!
00:54.50AdmiralPandalol
00:55.24AdmiralPandathat's twice the weight of the Austeyr
00:55.40AdmiralPandathe risking breaking your arm part depends more on the caliber of shot
00:55.55AdmiralPandain fact if it was chambered for 5.56 it'd probably be pretty comfortable to fire if you could handle the wieght
00:57.23MonetOKay easy one here http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110711213210/deusex/en/images/5/55/COMBATKNIFE.png standard-issue stainless-steel combat knife.
00:57.27Monet4.5kg.
00:57.37AdmiralPandano
00:57.39AdmiralPandajust no
00:57.45AdmiralPandawhoever created this game is actually stupid
00:58.25MonetThe only justification I can find is that JC Denton is a cyborg so he cngas about the weights of these things.
00:58.59AdmiralPandabut the problem with that is you still wouldn't make something that heavy
00:59.22AdmiralPandathe shape of the blade is much more important than its weight
01:01.18DrodoEmpiretest
01:02.43MonetApparently throwing knives weigh the smae amount
01:02.47MonetThrowing knives.
01:02.49MonetIn this game.
01:04.24MonetMaybe the mass values neglect to add the decimal point?
01:04.58AdmiralPandathrowing knives are actually heavier
01:05.11AdmiralPandanot by much, but heavier
01:05.53MonetI have another mindfuck for you
01:06.04Monethttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110711215034/deusex/en/images/e/e6/Dxsword.JPG ingame text calls this a dao.
01:10.12MonetIt...appears to lack a few of a real dao's qualities
01:12.48DrodoEmpire^
01:15.04AdmiralPandait's not that far off from what I can tell
01:17.09MonetGaven that this is a weapon used by ingame representations of the Triad, to me the crossguard looks a little too Western.
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01:17.48AdmiralPandaI'll give you tat
01:17.50AdmiralPandathat*
01:18.08AdmiralPandabut the blade shape seems more or less accurate to me
01:18.26AdmiralPandaheh, I just imagined Hel' dancing around with an estoc
01:18.32AdmiralPandacompletely ridiculous
01:20.48AdmiralPandahttp://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140114015660/avalon-kingdom/images/2/22/Regulus's_Generals_Falcata.png this is the sort of blade that inspired Hel's falcata for me
01:22.06MonetLooks painful
01:23.20AdmiralPandanow imagine it on fire, and about a metre and a half in length
01:25.19AdmiralPandaalso, I wonder how hard it would be to tech up to that matter dissipation shenanigans Uriel's swords use
01:25.55AdmiralPanda'cus I'm imagining that on  a shield, melting someone's face with a bash
01:28.11MonetNasty.
01:28.49MonetTechwise hmm...i've sort-of varied it over time abotu the exact nature.
01:29.27MonetI suppose one possibility is the sword is sheathed in a GUT field.
01:30.39MonetAnd given the generator is built into the blade, traditional metalforging is probably out of the question.
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01:38.21TekDroidHello
01:38.23OfficerJackalBelated hello!
01:39.29TekDroidHow goes things?
01:41.44OfficerJackalThey are fine, you?
01:42.52TekDroidGood. Just came off a holiday weekend
01:44.05TekDroidYesterday was "Family Day" in Canada. XD
01:44.27TekDroidWhich is basically a free day off with no purpose. XD
01:47.41OfficerJackalGood deal!
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02:00.01Hachi_hai u
02:00.11Hachi_Monet: So there are zombies in Dust
02:00.22MonetHi
02:00.37MonetYou've gotten almost as far as I have.
02:00.40OluapPlayeromg hai pair of gheys
02:00.41Hachi_rite
02:03.50MonetNot gonna lie, I shed tears in the scenes of returning to that underground village.
02:04.48OluapPlayerghey as fuk
02:05.31MonetYou don't know what we saw...
02:05.40OluapPlayerIt's true, I don't hur
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02:07.23MonetALso I think Torvos' response on the UDB destroyed all respect France may have for them
02:08.13Hachi_Aye, twas sad day returning to that village
02:09.16OluapPlayerI dare say I prefer the new Stickerbrush Symphony over the original
02:09.22OluapPlayerIt just sounds so peaceful
02:10.06MonetOn the upside, is it kinda fun when the authoritarian shades of the DI come to light.
02:12.09AngrybirdsMonet: The DI also have NO idea what they're talking about. The situation is a lot more complicated than that.
02:12.23MonetI realise now I focked up.
02:12.24AngrybirdsSo, yeah, France is kind of like, >.<
02:12.46AngrybirdsEh, you can always change it, but it seems in character.
02:13.07MonetI...sorta missed the part where the EAA explicitly asked France for help
02:13.19AngrybirdsWhoops :P
02:13.44AngrybirdsBecause not many others would be paying enough attention to the conflict to realize that it's actually a foreign invasion, not a rebellion.
02:13.56MonetSo I went in thinking france was going "Oh look civil unrest and rioting, DEMOCRACY HO!"
02:14.17Monetrioting in a foreig ncountry*
02:14.41Angrybirds"I was visited by the East African embassy yesterday morning, and it is on their behalf that I now stand before you." - Yeah...
02:15.13AngrybirdsAlso, what did you think of René's response?
02:15.21AngrybirdsxD
02:15.33MonetTbf I was half-busy at the time and could have intrepreted it as "I visited the East African Embassy and realised they could do with some help"
02:15.52AngrybirdsNp. You can always retcon what you said.
02:16.37MonetYeah i'll tweak his response.
02:16.41MonetA little.
02:17.01AngrybirdsI'll alter René's response to match.
02:18.24OluapPlayerHachi_: http://i.imgur.com/RbRcGzn.gif
02:20.18Hachi_^ Gamestop
02:20.30Hachi_spot*
02:22.09MonetAngrybirds: There, changed
02:22.28AngrybirdsGot it. Also, Earth is abandoned, so we're not all on it at the moment.
02:23.13OluapPlayerhoh
02:23.27MonetHis point is "why do you still call yourselves Germans or Africans when you've already gone beyond that"
02:23.33OluapPlayerGamespot couldn't handle the jimmies
02:25.44OluapPlayerI just read the Super Guide from DK Country Returns didn't return to Tropical Freeze
02:25.54OluapPlayerThat might add up to the "2hard waah" thing
02:27.07Hachi_Knowing Jo she'll probably call it a stupid game because she'll get lost on it
02:27.35AdmiralPandalol
02:27.38OluapPlayerhoh
02:28.08AdmiralPandaI have exactly one reason for not responding to the East African thing. Fordanta - If they're a problem, walk over there and kill them all.
02:28.44MonetAll East Africans or just the rebels?
02:28.55AngrybirdsMonet : Changed.
02:30.44AdmiralPandaMonet: Probably just all of them for safety
02:31.07AngrybirdsWe need more human nations to respond, for Pete's sake.
02:31.21AngrybirdsIt's directed at human fiction/the UN, not aliens. xD
02:31.58OluapPlayerhttp://gyazo.com/72573e61d68212e4b05f18acffe47828.png got me good
02:33.24OluapPlayerhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1932239_478052475632905_865843523_n.png
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02:38.23DrodoEmpireBack.
02:38.35OfficerJackalWelcome back!
02:38.57DrodoEmpireW-Wait, that "Munchies" guy is still on? He must have been logged on for close to 24 hours now, if not more
02:39.01DrodoEmpire:P
02:39.14OfficerJackalYeah. :/
02:39.15DrodoEmpireAssuming he didn't leave
02:40.14OfficerJackalI'm not sure he did.
02:41.17Hachi_OluapPlayer: ohgod that pedophile thing
02:45.13AngrybirdsMonet : TBH, all the aliens commenting are making themselves look like idiots to France.
02:45.20AngrybirdsEspecially the DCP.
02:45.49TekDroidLol
02:46.11MonetI had Torvos reply.
02:46.23Monetwell, revamped reply.
02:46.46Angrybirds(also, René's title is not prime minister. Sorry about that, it's statesman/deputy)
02:47.32AdmiralPandaAngrybirds: That's fine because France made themselves look incompetent and out-of-touch to everyone else
02:48.52DrodoEmpireAdmiralPanda: This isn't my argument, but... How...?
02:49.24DrodoEmpireThey made a appeal to the UN on the UDB; the only place in which anyone would actually notice it
02:49.43OfficerJackalYeah, I don't understand how anyone can find them incompetent just by doing that.
02:49.55DrodoEmpireHow is that "incompetent"?
02:50.08MonetSOmething tells me that's not the icnompetent part.
02:50.27DrodoEmpireThen what is?
02:50.43AdmiralPandaThe incompetent part is that they can't manage their own species, when everyone else on the intergalactic stage can to a much better extent
02:50.54Hachi_Crispy - Yes.
02:51.06OluapPlayerHachi_ AdmiralPanda: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/src/1392762804954.gif
02:51.07Hachi_Monet: Have you been to one of those creepy mansion places that Cora asks you to go to?
02:51.13AdmiralPandathey still exist as dozens of fragmented groups even in a fairly advanced state, whereas everyone else managed to unify first
02:51.23DrodoEmpireIts not really there fault that others to not wish to unify; At least they work together
02:51.25AngrybirdsAdmiralPanda - The French could criticize the Draconis for being unable to manage their own galaxy.
02:51.50Hachi_To be fair, neither can the humans
02:51.53MonetHachi_: I started my journey...but got killed by a wizard.
02:52.05Hachi_Well, when you get to one of those mansions
02:52.06Hachi_Fuckingr un
02:52.10Hachi_*run
02:52.27Hachi_Also, don't worry about the wizard, he's invulnerable/nigh-invincible so just keep running
02:52.37AngrybirdsHachi_ Humans have only been spacefaring for... 831 years, you have to remember.
02:52.51DrodoEmpireAnd how is a species unified that still goes to war with other species on a regular basis, any better or superior to a civilization that has to declare war against its own? Even if they're the same tech level and size?
02:52.56AngrybirdsThe Draconis have been around for millennia.
02:53.08Hachi_All the more reason for Draconis to see them as lowly
02:53.08DrodoEmpireYou're still killing people for the same reasons either way.
02:53.13DrodoEmpire7And its still a bad thing.7
02:53.25DrodoEmpire*dunno why I put sevens on either side. XD
02:53.43Hachi_Zazane personally would criticize humans for being humans and needing augmentations/cybernetics in order to produce effective soldiers
02:53.51Hachi_Weak, pink things
02:53.58OluapPlayerlike ur benis
02:54.09Hachi_suk my dik
02:54.18MonetI think this all boils down to Torvos' point.
02:54.45MonetHumans have yet to settle things amongs their own species, how well are they goingto cope in a big alien colelctive?
02:54.57Angrybirds(Which I responded to, by the way)
02:55.05Hachi_Wormy's said that the Kindred Coalition was more mature than the humans
02:55.09Hachi_Because they're unified
02:55.25AngrybirdsHe thinks they're more mature.
02:55.31AngrybirdsThat's an opinion, not a fact.
02:56.01Hachi_Zazane personally don't care for it; war is war no matter who you're fighting
02:56.03Hachi_They're still going to sit back and laugh at you for being a human
02:56.44AngrybirdsNow -that- makes sense.
02:56.52DrodoEmpireI'll repeat my point seeing as no one listens to me; Why is uniting your species such a distinction if you're still going to war regularly, and still taking slaves? The only thing that has changed is the setting and the scale; neither for the better.
02:56.54Angrybirds(totally not sarcastic)
02:57.13AngrybirdsI agree with Drodo there.
02:57.31DrodoEmpireThe best you can do as a civilization is not go to war often; but being prepared; who cares if your species isn't united?
02:57.50DrodoEmpireIts like complaining that different ethnic groups should nationalize.
02:58.04OfficerJackalYeah, other then the fact that you have unified, you are still going to war and acting like fucking barbarians to the species you go to war against, killing thousands with your advanced weapons over your squabbles with one another.
02:58.25DrodoEmpire^
02:58.53Hachi_Nobody said the Draconis were right; they are meant to be stuck-up and pompous after all
02:59.09DrodoEmpireThat's true.
02:59.16Hachi_Zazane just plain think humans are silly
03:00.09AdmiralPandaDrodoEmpire: As was said above, it's not about the wars or anything like that, it's that they can't get ahold of themselves within their own species. Everyone else basically thinks they aren't ready to be a major player.
03:00.09DrodoEmpireBut I'm just explaining why I think its wrong, and bit of a silly thing to think it'd be such a big step when you're really only going to up the scale of the wars you get into; And I think everyone can agree that is never a good thing
03:00.35AdmiralPandaAnd most of them are also just saying they really shouldn't be posting this sort of thing on a 'Universal' discussion board
03:01.08AngrybirdsIt's a public address which is accessible through the board.
03:01.11AngrybirdsDirected at the UN.
03:01.12MonetIf it was a plea to the United Nations, why not post it there?
03:01.17DrodoEmpireI suppose one could think that; But really that's only because of the trend of the gigaquadrant with species nationalizing; They think the human system if "wrong" because its different; Perhaps its more efficent
03:01.20AngrybirdsBecause nobody would see it.
03:01.22AngrybirdsLike, nobody.
03:01.23OluapPlayerI worry about nothing by downright ignoring human canon in my fiction
03:01.24DrodoEmpireBecause no one would notice, Money.
03:01.25OfficerJackalI do agree with that, there should be some sort of Earth Discussion Board or something like that, but nobody would ever look at the damn thing there.
03:01.30OluapPlayerMost human thing to touch my fiction is half-rabbit hur
03:01.30OfficerJackal^
03:01.38DrodoEmpire*Monet
03:01.38OfficerJackalWhat does that have to do with the argument.
03:01.42AngrybirdsMonet : Look at the number of human fictions who have responded.
03:01.46AdmiralPandaSo basically what you're all saying is that the UN doesn't have its own way of being contacted
03:02.01DrodoEmpireAdmiral, no one would notice if posted anywhere else
03:02.06AngrybirdsI'm saying that it's public, just like Bush's address to the UN is.
03:02.14AngrybirdsYou can look it up online.
03:02.15AdmiralPanda*sigh* you people are all COMPLETELY missing the point
03:02.21DrodoEmpireHow?
03:02.28DrodoEmpireExplain your point clearer then.
03:02.36Hachi_OluapPlayer: touched it wit his wiener
03:02.45AdmiralPandawhat I'm getting at is that you've taken a message that really just needs to be between human factions, and put it up on an inter-species, inter-galaxy discussion board
03:02.49OluapPlayerIt did in a way or another
03:02.50AdmiralPandanow forget the out of universe implications
03:03.00DrodoEmpireIt was put there...
03:03.07AdmiralPandayou've just said that the only way to get in touch with the mediating body of the human race is to tell EVERYONE in the universe
03:03.15DrodoEmpire...Solely because no one would notice otherwise.
03:03.18DrodoEmpireUnderstand?
03:03.20OfficerJackalNobody would LOOK AT THE DAMN HUMAN BOARD ADMIRALPANDA, where do you want us to put it, up our asses?
03:03.21AngrybirdsAdmiralPanda : The UDB is kind of like the internet. Do you think we could have kept a public speech from it if we wanted to?
03:03.34MonetThis issue is why I created a discussion section on the AGC page.
03:03.40AdmiralPandaI give up, you people are refusing to see the point I'm trying to make
03:03.45AngrybirdsMonet : And next to nobody sees it.
03:03.55DrodoEmpireWe listened, considered it,
03:04.05Angrybirds(Yes, that's out-of-universe implications)
03:04.06DrodoEmpireand ultimately rejected it.
03:04.08AdmiralPandaand yet you're missing it entirely
03:04.16AdmiralPandabecause I'm talking about purely in-context, not the wiki
03:04.23DrodoEmpireI heard your point and gave a response; Stop acting like an ass.
03:04.42DrodoEmpireI understand its a bit silly in-context,
03:04.50DrodoEmpirebut its the only way it'll work.
03:04.52DrodoEmpireSO far
03:04.54DrodoEmpire*so
03:04.57AdmiralPandathank you, there you go
03:05.22Angrybirds"I understand its a bit silly in-context" - And I agree with that as well.
03:05.28OfficerJackalYep.
03:06.23AdmiralPandaThat's all I was trying to get at, it got flared up and I apologise completely
03:06.34DrodoEmpireIts alright,
03:06.45AdmiralPandawe didn't understand each other's points, and we just tried to shout over each other.
03:07.06AdmiralPandaI understand that out of context, it's the only way to get the message out
03:07.10OluapPlayerI assume you're all not gonna go on each other's threats anymore so I'll be leaving
03:07.34AdmiralPandait's just that in-context, the aliens that have responded have responded in quite an appropriate way given the in-context implications of humanity's actions
03:07.40TekDroid...did we just make our point about humanity with this conversation?
03:07.40DrodoEmpireWhat did he mean by that I wonder?
03:07.53AdmiralPandaHe was hanging around in case he had to ban people
03:08.00DrodoEmpireOh. Fun.
03:08.04OfficerJackalHe may have misspelled "Throats".
03:08.51AdmiralPandaTekDroid: Yes, I think we did
03:09.55MonetSOmetimes I wonder if what happens in the ficverse can be bizarringly realistic...
03:10.09Hachi_See, this is why aliens never come to visit us
03:10.10AdmiralPandaas far as I'm aware, what happened is that aliens saw this UDB post, and it basically led them to consider humans rather immature compared to everyone else
03:10.55MonetAnd everyone on the IRC tried to reject their opinion by shouting at each other.
03:11.27AdmiralPandathat happens a fair bit unfortunately
03:11.29MonetI don't know about anyone else but I find this whole thing quite hilarious in hindsight.
03:11.35AdmiralPandame too tbh :P
03:12.12MonetIt is for this aspect why I agree with the bunny.
03:12.29AdmiralPandaabsolutely
03:16.11AngrybirdsBut guys.
03:16.12AngrybirdsSeriously.
03:16.16AngrybirdsRespond with human nations.
03:16.20AngrybirdsNot aliens.
03:16.46DrodoEmpire^
03:16.51AngrybirdsIt's a real fiction going on between myself, Liquid, Pid, Patriot, Aquilo, and myself.
03:16.59AngrybirdsA story we're writing.
03:18.21AdmiralPandaWe're aware of that, it's just that most of us who have human fictions haven't actually done that much on the main page, let alone bothered to create UDB message tempates
03:19.39AngrybirdsI figured.
03:20.09AngrybirdsAlso, I'd like to apologize for any bitterness this whole thing has created. That was not the intention.
03:23.10AdmiralPandaeh, a good part of the bitterness was mine
03:24.10AngrybirdsWell, you had a good point, it just took us a while to understand it.
03:26.26AdmiralPandayeah, it was just once people realised I was talking about in-context not out-of-context that it was resolved
03:26.41AdmiralPandaI'm not stupid, I know there's only so many ways to contact people out of universe
03:26.53AdmiralPandaI'm just not the best at making things clear when I say them :P
03:28.29AngrybirdsLol, next time I'll put a disclaimer and a long explanation as to what the situation actually entails.
03:29.44AdmiralPandathing is, the aliens that responded did so quite well given what they would reasonably know about the situation
03:30.31AngrybirdsI agree, though their ignorance is understandable, it's cringe-worthy to those who actually know what's going on.
03:31.40AdmiralPandanot really, imo
03:31.54AngrybirdsIt makes them look like overzealous, self-indulged hypocrites who don't understand that they know nothing about what they're criticizing.
03:32.35Hachi_Zazane - Haha, humans are fighting.
03:32.38AdmiralPandaI don't feel that way at all. Their responses are quite reasonable given the information available to htem
03:32.57AdmiralPandait's only by standing back and nitpicking that they would appear that way, imo
03:33.07AdmiralPandaHachi_: Fordanta - Just go kill them all then
03:33.50AngrybirdsFor the wider gigaquadrant, maybe. But for the humans who know exactly what's going on, it's like listening to your parents drone on and on about a situation they only know the tip of the iceberg about.
03:34.12AngrybirdsTheir criticisms simply don't apply to the situation, and they don't know that.
03:34.27Hachi_Thing is, most aliens probably already know what's going on and have had far worse based on previous experiences
03:35.02AdmiralPandaAngrybirds: well yeah, but you can't blame them
03:36.56AngrybirdsAdmiralPanda : If I was in their shoes, I'd realize that all I know about the situation comes from a speech that's trying to prove a point and get something done. In short, I know nothing.
03:38.00AdmiralPandaAngrybirds: If I was in their shoes, I'd say "Go sort this out among your own people, instead of posting it for the rest of the universe to see."
03:38.09Hachi_hur
03:38.26AdmiralPandawhich is basically what a lot of people have said
03:38.49AngrybirdsNotice the title.
03:38.54AngrybirdsNotice the title of the post.
03:39.03AngrybirdsIt's clear to whom it was directed.
03:39.05AngrybirdsIn the title.
03:39.12AdmiralPandadude
03:39.14AdmiralPandachill
03:39.15Hachi_But the UDB is like the internet
03:39.17AdmiralPandago swim in the arctic
03:39.29Hachi_People, specifically aliens, are gonna troll nonetheless
03:39.34AdmiralPandawe're fully aware of who it's directed to
03:39.35Angrybirds"But the UDB is like the internet" - Exactly.
03:39.53AdmiralPandabut the thing is, you put a private message on a public board, you're gonna get public responses
03:40.09AdmiralPandathat's why alien trolls be trolling
03:40.44AngrybirdsYes, but it's bad when those trolls are high-ranking government officials who probably should know better.
03:40.56Hachi_Nah, it's funny
03:41.54AngrybirdsAnd a little sad, tbh.
03:42.16Hachi_It's like me posting a thread that says "I Have A Wart On My Ass, Help Only Please" and expecting just help and not people who are going to take the piss
03:42.20AngrybirdsMakes them look incompetent and like they should be in their mother's basements, not in charge of anything.
03:43.04Hachi_I think if a high-ranking alien is saying "sort your species out plz" then he has enough right to say it to a young, inexperienced species posting their problems on a public board
03:43.22Hachi_Especially if he comes from a millennia old empire like the Imperium
03:43.36AngrybirdsYes, but much more than that is being said.
03:44.25AngrybirdsAnd that's like telling the US and Japan should sort out their own problems because FDR's "A day which will live in Infamy" speech found its way on to the internet.
03:45.42AngrybirdsOr that the US and the Middle East should sort out their own problems after Bush's address to the UN after 9/11 hit the internet.
03:45.46Hachi_But people do tell them to sort out their own problems
03:46.02AngrybirdsYes, but not BECAUSE of the fact that the thing is up on the internet.
03:46.11AngrybirdsJust because they have problems.
03:46.55Hachi_Well how else are we gonna complain and know about the problems they're facing if they're not on the internet
03:47.26Hachi_And even then, whether it's on the internet or not, if we have knowledge of their problems we're still gonna say "they should sort it out"
03:48.11AngrybirdsYes, and that would make sense. But you said, "then he has enough right to say it to a young, inexperienced species posting their problems on a public board"
03:48.27AngrybirdsThey're not broadcasting their problems, their problems are being broadcasted.
03:48.53AngrybirdsI understand by that statement that you're criticizing them for broadcasting their problems.
03:49.23Hachi_It's like a child complaining about a bully or something on the internet, a lot of adults are gonna give the same response
03:50.20AngrybirdsExcept it's not the child complaining here, it's the child's complaint being taped and posted on the internet somewhat out of context.
03:50.31Angrybirdsby a third party.
03:50.37AngrybirdsProbably the UN in this case.
03:50.50AngrybirdsMost UN speeches are recorded and posted by the UN.
03:53.47AdmiralPandaI'm bored of this conversation. Let's talk about Hachiman's near complete lack of a sex life
03:54.07OfficerJackal:|
03:54.16Hachi_Cept for the fact he banged an alternate universe version of Iovera
03:54.32AdmiralPandanot bad
03:55.05AdmiralPandaalso, I created his only current long-term sexual partner so I'm aware he has a little bit of game
05:07.59AngrybirdsHachi_ Wait, so how did the YSE end up in the Astral Alliance?
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05:23.48Hachi_Angrybirds: They're still their own independent entity with their own goals, it's just Yamato wants to play nice. For now.
05:23.49Hachi_Can't unite humanity if you're not willing to interact
05:23.53Hachi_Imperios: hai
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05:25.39Hachi_Hai Tyb
05:25.44TybusenHai
05:25.59TybusenImperios: I'mma go ahead and create the EAC page already
05:27.52Hachi_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eldarisian_Empire "Tier: 2" "Technology: Uses Nuclear Power" "Location: Bunsen Galaxy" "Notable for: Its Faith And Honor also Its Curiosity"
05:28.26Hachi_"Age: Nine Years"
05:28.54Tybusen"Date of Formation: 1010"
05:28.55Hachi_"Date of Formation: 1010"
05:28.59Hachi_dam u
05:29.01TybusenHOH
05:29.24TybusenThe only redeeming factor is
05:29.39TybusenSomeone put their fiction in Bunsen on their own volition :U
05:31.05TybusenWhere is LawfulInsane when you need him
05:51.57ImperiosHachi_: Hai
05:57.39ImperiosTybusen: Sure why not
05:59.32Tybusencuz u too lazy to do it urself dum
06:01.16ImperiosEssays, son, essays
06:02.58ImperiosBTW I'll make a sci-fi version of Lesbonazi for the ESR
06:03.16Imperios...actually... what human nation could she belong to?
06:03.32TybusenThe Netherlands obviously
06:04.05AngrybirdsFrance could accept her if you want. Or Corsica.
06:04.10ImperiosWhy so?
06:04.37ImperiosAngrybirds: She doesn't look Frenchie to me dunno
06:04.45AngrybirdsYour call.
06:04.53ImperiosOr feel Frenchie for that matter
06:05.41TybusenI just threw the Dutch out there because I know they're a bunch of hyperliberals and that's where you'd probably get a European lesbian from
06:07.34Imperioshur
06:08.15ImperiosMon said that FantasyJavi is Turkish-ish
06:08.56ImperiosThough an Ottoman Javi would just be Empire of Man Javi in space
06:09.22TybusenThen go for the next best thing
06:09.23ImperiosHachi_: Remember the Russian novel about Satan and the Soviet Union I told you about?
06:09.23TybusenGreeks
06:09.34Hachi_Aye I remember
06:09.39TybusenThe Greeks invented the term Lesbian after all
06:09.59ImperiosYou may be interested in the TV series of the book
06:10.23ImperiosIt has at least one female character who frequently appears nakrd
06:10.25Imperiosnaked
06:10.36ImperiosTwo, in fact, if I remember the book right
06:14.20ImperiosTybusen: Yeah could work
06:14.36ImperiosShe could also be British dunno
06:15.55Hachi_Imperios: http://www.cracked.com/article_17400_the-8-shittiest-transformer-disguises.html
06:19.21ImperiosHachi_: Aye
06:22.19Hachi_RipperSnapper is just
06:22.22Hachi_My God
06:22.29Hachi_How could somebody fuck up that bad
06:22.47Hachi_How could a Transformer, a Decepticon no less, who is blessed with the guise of a shark fuck up that bad
06:24.01ImperiosOld Hasbro toys were generally mindscrewy
06:24.56ImperiosNightscream has an excuse though; he never interacted with Earth nor humans
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07:53.16AdmiralPandaok someone tell me Hachi_ is ghosting
07:53.37Hachi_boo
07:55.24AdmiralPandawat r u doin up?
07:56.04AdmiralPandaactually I suppose it's around 8am there
07:56.07AdmiralPandaso that's reasonable
07:56.42Hachi_Well I was up all night
07:59.01AdmiralPandathat is also a possibility
08:01.47AdmiralPandaso what were you doing all night?
08:03.29Hachi_Suffering a damned headache
08:03.34AdmiralPandaouch, nasty
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08:06.27AdmiralPandayou taken anything for it?
08:11.58Hachi_Not yet, might do soon
08:37.05ImperiosOuch
08:37.30ImperiosHachi_: Try resting for a while
08:37.41ImperiosLie down or something, it helps most of the time
08:37.44Hachi_Can't resr
08:37.47Hachi_rest*
08:37.56Hachi_I'll oversleep
08:38.02Hachi_I must sleep later
08:39.59Liquid_InkWhat is happen?
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08:40.10JepardiHi
08:46.14AdmiralPandaback from dinner
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09:02.02AdmiralPandainternet der
09:02.04AdmiralPandaderp*
09:08.58Hachi_I like the fact that one formulaic Japanese ghost story involves a samurai warrior questioning a naked man he encounters in a forest only to have the naked man turn around, bend over, part his ass cheeks and reveal a colossal eye in his anus
09:14.01AdmiralPandawut
09:14.04AdmiralPandaoh right, Japan
09:15.45Hachi_There's also a bogeyman variant in Malaysia, which is basically this woman who goes around searching for young, healthy men and suffocating them to death with a face full of Gwynevere-sized boob
09:16.01Hachi_Except she's a disgusting, old hag and her breasts are on her back
09:16.56AdmiralPandaok then
09:17.38AdmiralPandathere's this one Maori myth involving a weapon powerful enough to kill the gods
09:17.46AdmiralPandaturns out to be the jaw bone of some dude's uncle
09:18.58Hachi_olol
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09:25.17dromlexerhai
09:37.46ImperiosHachi_: ...disgusting old hag with huge breasts?
09:37.56ImperiosThere is such a creature in Russian folklore
09:39.41Hachi_Ah but are her tits on her back
09:39.52ImperiosBasically that's our equivalent of the mermaid even though Russia has long since adopted the Western variant of the creature
09:40.23ImperiosCalled "rusalka"; may also be used to refer to Western mermaiden
09:41.35ImperiosOr mavka but that's more Ukrainiam
09:41.39ImperiosUkrainian
09:41.41TybusenI find it funny how the name of that creature sounds similar to the country it came from
09:41.55ImperiosHur
09:42.06ImperiosWell technically it's pronounced different
09:42.34ImperiosRussia is Rah-sha in English and Roh-see-ya in Russian
09:42.43ImperiosRusalka is Roo-sal-ka
09:43.08TybusenI'm half-asleep right now so I can't even language
09:43.30ImperiosSure, once can call Russia "Rus" and that would be pronounced "Roos" BUT that'd be like calling UK "Albion"
09:45.28Imperios...Is there a poetic name for the USA?
09:45.32TybusenColumbia
09:45.36TybusenAmerica
09:45.38Tybusen'Murica
09:45.44TybusenLand of the Free
09:45.47TybusenHome of the Brave
09:45.53TybusenAmerica the Beautiful
09:46.04TybusenThat Place Where
09:46.15TybusenThat Place Where All the Rednecks Go With Their Shotguns
09:46.27Hachi_I pronounce Russia as "Rush-uh"
09:46.27TybusenJust to name a few
09:46.37Hachi_Or "Ruh-shuh"
09:46.49TybusenI've always pronounced it as "Rush-ah"
09:47.20Hachi_Well, I find "-uh" and "-ah" interchangeable hur
09:47.24ImperiosOnce can in fact pronounce Russia as "Rush-uh" in Russian but only in the derogatory sense
09:47.26TybusenOr if I feel like playing around with stresses, "Roo-shah"
09:47.56TybusenRoo-shah
09:47.56Hachi_Rooshah
09:48.00TybusenRoo Shah
09:48.02Hachi_Austrialian Russia
09:48.14TybusenKangaroo Shah
09:48.19TybusenAustralian Shah
09:48.22TybusenAustralian Leader
09:48.28Hachi_Kangarussia
09:48.33TybusenPanda Leader
09:48.35TybusenAdmiral Panda
09:48.38TybusenCONSPIRACY
09:48.52Hachi_Pandamonium
09:48.59AdmiralPanda^.^
09:49.00TybusenAdmiralPanda is Mother Russia
09:49.07AdmiralPandaSecretly I own all of the vodka
09:49.11AdmiralPandatherefore I own all of the russia
09:49.43ImperiosAnd that's how the Protocols of the Elders of Panda were born
09:50.15Imperios...Did anyone get the joke?
09:50.26Hachi_Is it a WoW joke?
09:50.31AdmiralPandanah, that was the result of a gypsy and a space gnome getting really drunk and friendly one night
09:50.52ImperiosNah that's a conspiracy theory joke
09:51.02Imperioshttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
09:51.27Imperios...Why do I know so much about all these antisemite texts
09:51.39Hachi_Hmm I wonder who's more impressive really
09:51.41Hachi_Ken from Fist of the Northstar who can destroy mountains, defeat armies, blow people up with his legs and fists, and fight and defeat other mountain-destroying men, or Guts from Berserk who can launch cannonballs from his artificial arm, defeat 100 men single-handedly, kill demons without help, and other stuff Panda probably knows about
09:52.08ImperiosGuts is already dead
09:52.12Hachi_hur
09:52.12TybusenKen because Fist of the North Star is the only one of those two shows that I've heard of before
09:52.30ImperiosI heard of both
09:52.34TybusenAnd punching people to death sounds more badass than shooting them
09:52.45Hachi_I dunno; Guts has a cannon FOR AN ARM
09:52.58Tybusendat so mainstream tho
09:52.59Hachi_Which is fully functional. As an arm.
09:53.18AdmiralPandaHachi_: You know what would actually terrify me?
09:53.22AdmiralPandaGuts using a normal sword
09:53.31Hachi_How so?
09:53.39TybusenSo I'm turning in a science lab report 2 hours overdue
09:53.42AdmiralPandahe's strong enough to swing a sword so heavy most people can't lift it. imagine how quickly he'd be able to move a regular blade
09:53.54TybusenYou can really tell where I missed the turn-in time and stopped trying
09:54.00AdmiralPandayou wouldn't be able to break his guard full stop
09:54.13Hachi_Last time he used a normal sword didn't Casca get raped?
09:54.27AdmiralPandathat was fighting demons
09:54.42dromuh
09:56.07AdmiralPandahe had to upgrade his epicly large sword to fight htem
09:56.15Hachi_rite
09:56.21AdmiralPandaand get armour that's slowly killing him
09:56.33Hachi_Strength increase, right?
09:56.48AdmiralPandaalso anime doesn't normally follow the conventions of real life swordfighting
09:57.18AdmiralPandaIRL there's no way Griffith could hope to guard a swing from a sword that heavy with just a rapier
09:57.27Hachi_Aye
09:57.39AdmiralPandafurthermore Guts wouldn't be cutting into anyone, he'd be bludgeoning them
09:57.51Hachi_That actually sounds horrifying
09:57.54AdmiralPandaa really heavy blunt sword is basically a big metal stick
09:58.26AdmiralPandawhat's actually horrifying is, anime taken into account, that's a pretty realistic amount of blood for bludgeoning someone like that
09:58.38dromGiant slab of metal on a wooden stick.
09:58.38AdmiralPandayou're gonna dent their armour and squash their organs
09:59.16AdmiralPandaeven if they survive they're gonna need metal shears to get the armour off
09:59.42Hachi_That's absolutely terriftying
09:59.47Hachi_*terrifying
10:01.24AdmiralPandaalso, a pickaxe is a horrifically effective weapon
10:01.38AdmiralPandaif there's one guy with a sword and another with the pick, I'll take the swordsman any day
10:02.22AdmiralPandaanyway time to go hit up that forest PvP in dark souls
10:02.26TybusenI'mma go to bed
10:02.28TybusenNight all
10:02.36AdmiralPandaanyone want a running update of my fights?
10:29.39AdmiralPandadamn, nobody so far
10:29.53AdmiralPandaI've been here for about fifteen minutes
10:31.10AdmiralPandawow, first invader and my host walks off the cliff
10:31.12AdmiralPandawtf
10:39.50dromlol
10:40.02AdmiralPandafirst win of the night
10:40.07AdmiralPandatwo slashes and the other guy goes down
10:41.50dromIt's Stargate on TV soon.
10:43.49dromI can't stop laughing to stereotypes of Americans.
11:00.06Imperiosdrom: I can relate bro
11:11.11AdmiralPandagot a couple more kills then I got taken out by a buff stacker
11:11.16AdmiralPandacan't complain, I had fun
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11:15.06AdmiralPandaaww
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11:18.34WormyHello
11:18.57AdmiralPandahi ko
11:19.08OluapWorkerohi
11:19.09AdmiralPandaso my sunlight samurai build mostly works
11:19.18AdmiralPandaonly problem is nobody is invading
11:19.25OluapWorkerhoh
11:19.47AdmiralPandaI beat everyone except this one guy stacking power within and sunlight blade on a baller swag sword
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11:20.51AdmiralPandaThat said, it's really not my thing so I'm gonna try a spear/shield build next
11:20.55AdmiralPandahai jo
11:21.22AdmiralPandaalso, I should make a story involving Poda, that guy needs some exposure
11:23.40Technobliteratorhii
11:23.52OluapWorkerdumba
11:24.21AdmiralPandaanyone got a character that could have a run-in with the drunken panda?
11:24.29OluapWorkerAdmiralPanda: I just read Clothovera’s Furry Fantasia and it's kawaii as fuk
11:24.35OluapWorkerConsider it canon hur
11:24.35Technobliteratorya dad
11:24.41AdmiralPanda:3
11:24.52dromadvert time between muh stargate shows
11:25.02TechnobliteratorOluapWorker: http://i.imgur.com/ecduE1X.jpg
11:25.19AdmiralPandaI reckon Poda and Hachi could become travelling buddies like Hachi and Sarec in the sci-fi universe
11:25.35AdmiralPandalol
11:25.39dromk
11:25.39OluapWorkerI don't get it
11:25.50AdmiralPandait's the poster for Thor
11:25.54AdmiralPandajust with DotA characters
11:26.01Technobliterator+
11:26.06OluapWorkerNever watched Thor
11:26.18AdmiralPandayou're not missing much
11:26.26ImperiosAdmiralPanda: Clotho's Furry Fantasia Where? Where? Show me
11:26.41OluapWorkerAdmiralPanda: If you want more Hachi-Clotho interaction then you can check here http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Inferno_Rises
11:26.48AdmiralPandait's on my ideas page
11:26.56AdmiralPandaOluapWorker: Nah I'm good for now
11:26.58OluapWorkerThough I should warn you Clothovera is rather exaggerated in that plot since it was her introduction
11:27.05dromhttp://imgur.com/3MCMAId
11:27.18OluapWorkerI've toned her down considerably since then
11:27.24AdmiralPandaactually, Hachi, Clotho and Poda make a pretty good party
11:27.25dromsun is the safest place in space
11:27.37AdmiralPandayou have the tank (Poda), the speed fighter (Hachi) and the mage (Clotho)
11:28.18ImperiosOh boooot
11:28.32ImperiosBoy
11:28.40Imperiosdrom: Definitely. Praise the sun!
11:28.48OluapWorkerSuper drunk tank, super horny speedster and super socially awkward mage
11:28.53OluapWorkerIt's a normal team alright
11:29.06ImperiosI need to introduce more characters
11:29.23ImperiosOr elaborate on those I have
11:29.33ImperiosThat is, Javi, Lekren and Latae
11:29.35ImperiosLatar
11:29.56AdmiralPandaOluap: Then you factor in the incredible sexual tension between Hachi and Clotho, while Poda pretends to be oblivious
11:30.05ImperiosAdmiralPanda: I expected more sex hur
11:30.25OluapWorkerSo did I but it was so cute I didn't mind in the end :v
11:30.56AdmiralPandawell I was a bit concerned that outwardly saying they were having sex would be a bit iffy to upload
11:31.07AdmiralPandaso instead I just threw in subtle hints
11:31.42Technobliteratorhttp://imgur.com/3MCMAId
11:32.32Liquid_InkDid Techno just post something drom just posted?
11:32.59AdmiralPandaI was waiting for the "I don't get it" line
11:35.12ImperiosAdmiralPanda: Hachi once inspired/convinced/dunno me to write a lesbian sex story
11:35.24Imperios<PROTECTED>
11:35.36AdmiralPandayeah, we talked about that when we were writing something similar
11:35.54AdmiralPandaleast known fact in the entire wiki: Hachiman has a regular Fordan lover
11:36.07Technobliterator[11:32] <Liquid_Ink> Did Techno just post something drom just posted?
11:36.15Technobliteratormeant to post it in another irc channel
11:36.19Technobliteratorit posted to both by accident
11:36.27Liquid_InkI see
11:37.05Liquid_InkI do that all the time.
11:38.35dromlol
11:38.38OluapWorkerWell Hachi once wrote a lesbian Rovegar story
11:38.43OluapWorkerYeah he totally did it
11:38.46OluapWorkerIt was rpetty good too
11:39.24dromI miss pluto
11:40.42dromStargate SG-1 down, Atlantis to go!
11:43.10AdmiralPandaprobably the only reason I haven't written more romantic content is the risk of it getting slapped as porn
11:43.28AdmiralPandawell, that and I hardly write any content anyway
11:43.38dromWoohoo, episode with alien where they can't be seen by anyone. Killing their targets.
11:43.53dromAnybody seen that episode?
11:54.00dromDayum, this guy is so stubborn enough to put his team on a hanging danger.
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12:34.39Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_the_Cleansing_Flames/Part_One#For_a_High_Price
12:35.08dromWhew, it's over.
12:37.57AdmiralPandaTHE BANANA GUN!
12:38.07AdmiralPandatackle-hugs Technobliterator through a reinforced blast door
12:38.17Technobliterator<3
12:39.14AdmiralPandaI love you almost as much as Oluap loves Beatrice
12:39.22AdmiralPandawhich is to say, in a non-creepy way
12:39.34OluapWorkerhur
12:39.41Technobliteratorhaha
12:40.50AdmiralPandaalso Oluap: I've decided no more silly themed builds for me, I'm just playing the game and doing what I want
12:40.58AdmiralPandaat least for now
12:41.17AdmiralPandanext thing you know I'll be doing a perma-naked dragon tooth build
12:42.02OluapWorkerI was gonna make an immature comment but it's too dumb to be funny
12:42.21AdmiralPandalet's hear it then
12:42.43OluapWorkerIf I said that it's because I won't say it anymore hur
12:42.52AdmiralPandadam u
12:42.52dromgoddamn steam not telling me about which new items I have got.
12:43.11OluapWorkerWell you're naked and bating people to a pulp with a giant black stick
12:43.13OluapWorkerConnect the dots
12:43.17AdmiralPandaah
12:43.18dromIt says that I got two new items in my inventory. Instead, it simply refreshes my page.
12:43.19OluapWorkerbeating*
12:43.26AdmiralPandaso basically SR3 in DkS
12:45.49AdmiralPandacurrently using the regular longsword +5
12:45.54AdmiralPandasurprisingly really good
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12:47.09AdmiralPandamight go for the baller swag sword though
12:47.30WormyWoops, I accidentally knocked the power cable out the back of the computer
12:47.42WormyAnd lost all my bloody work again
12:48.03OluapWorkerI might do a playthrough where I join the Gravelord Servants for shits and giggles hur
12:48.43dromThe feeling when you try to translate a word, the site corrects the word for you, the correct word doesn't exist in the equality in english.
12:48.45dromNnnnngh
12:49.37AdmiralPandaalso, it turns out the elite knight set offers no better poise than the normal set
12:50.03OluapWorkerMight not do but it looks better
12:50.17AdmiralPandait's also heavier, so not worth
12:50.33AdmiralPandait literally puts me 0.2 over the 50% weight to put on the chest piece alone
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13:03.44DrodoEmpireHello, everyone
13:05.53Technobliteratorbbl
13:07.52DrodoEmpirehttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1508009_10152253751721489_194970076_n.jpg
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13:10.40AdmiralPandawell, bye
13:20.02dromHello drodo
13:23.12dromI wonder which software the shadowalkers used to make those demn guns
13:57.11dromtest
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14:34.22dromPlayed WoT.
14:34.35dromPlayed with a team with 10 T18s.
14:34.39dromWin
15:09.47WormyLol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6HPTom2AY
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15:45.20Wormyhi
15:45.28CyrannianHello there
15:45.30The_Randomnesswaptor
15:46.45WormyHi
15:51.58MonetAfternoon
15:57.36dromeverytume
15:58.58CyrannianThere's a rumour that the actor who played Data in TNG will play the antagonist in the upcoming Star Wars Rebels
15:59.59dromnot sure if it's bueno.
16:00.17The_RandomnessInteresting
16:00.41WormyCool
16:01.02WormyStargate - Babylon 5 - Star Trek would swap actors occasionally
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16:02.37WormyHi
16:02.53The_Randomnesswb
16:05.44MonetConsidering the outcome of that UN plea, I'm starting to wonder if the alien powers that voiced their distaste had any justification to do so...
16:06.39WormyThe DCP's comments were particularly ironic.
16:06.59MonetOr perhaps it is a good example of the "survival of the fittest" nature of international politics.
16:07.36CyrannianIt's like the aliens are YouTube trolls arguing about politics
16:07.58dromHah
16:08.16dromdemocracy stronk
16:09.29MonetPolitics isn't a game for nice people
16:09.32The_RandomnessConsidering what has been done to Earth politics recently, I consider the concept of a "United Nations" ironic.
16:10.24The_RandomnessIn-universe, that is
16:10.37dromI might write another fiction creature that is almost identical to Star Trek's tholians. But 20% more organic and more arms.
16:11.12WormyDrodoEmpire's comment I can agree with.  The current empires of the Gigaquadrant are probably frightened by the human's option living in choice of what nation to be under.
16:12.22MonetThat sort-of happens in the DI, funnily enough.
16:13.00CyrannianIt raises very good points, but I would have thought that most modern species have the choice of what civilisation they inhabit.
16:13.32CyrannianFor example, Rambo Nation contains millions of Libertus that migrated in the past of their own free will, even gaining a senator that is quite anti-Imperial.
16:15.27MonetDI provinces themselves vary in governance from monarchies to true republics, collective intelligences, hive intelligences and democratic governments. The Grand Senate gives them free reign to rule their domains so long as theyir leaders answer to the Grand Senate.
16:15.46CyrannianI would reckon that the aliens find the fact that humans are so divided unusual given the fact that their civilisations unify not only one species, but potentially hundreds.
16:15.56Angrybirds_SleepPosted a reply on behalf of René. I liked Caesarius' points, Cyrannian. They were interesting to counter.
16:16.08CyrannianI'll take a look now
16:18.01WormyIt is healthy for modern cultures/societies to be open to others.
16:18.03MonetParag'avatus doesn't mean "master of kings" just to give the Imperium's head of state an ego trip.
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16:21.03MonetOne of the big reasons is the Imperium is all about taking advantage of cultural strengths, some cultural aspects don't work under certain types of governance.
16:21.05MonetHi
16:21.21The_RandomnessHello
16:22.21The_RandomnessConsidering the SR's opinion on violence and discord, I think their response would basically be an insult, if they would make a public response to France.
16:22.58CyrannianAngrybirds_Sleep: That was very impressive, it'll be difficult to construct a response
16:23.15Angrybirds_SleepYou'll figure it out. :)
16:25.22MonetMaxios Telvenum is probably the only example of this social policy that I have, oh and Kervon Daktis.
16:26.21MonetThey rule their provinces how they prefer, but for any matters outside their provinces they'd need to bring it up with the Grand Senate.
16:27.47MonetFor example, it might still be legal in the Zazane province to kill someone in the streat so long as you have a justifiable reason for doing it - asi is law in the Brood of War.
16:31.41MonetThe Imperium might be more of a hegemony than a colonial empire in this regard...
16:34.24OluapWorkerhonk
16:35.18MonetHi
16:35.20The_Randomnessbeep
16:35.33OluapWorkerhttp://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/gaming/2014/02/18/bioshock-irrational-games/5580937/ this might interest some of you
16:36.50dromWell that sounds bad.
16:37.22dromIt would been much worse if they were developing a bioshock game at that moment.
16:37.43MonetThey are developing DLC
16:38.16Monet"Burial At Sea" is a DLC trilogy they've been working on.
16:39.28dromAh.
16:45.16MonetIt just came to me now...what if the Draconid Imperium is more of an idea than a state?
16:46.08Moneta concept, a philosophy
16:46.28The_RandomnessIsn't a state more of an idea than an actual physical entity to begin with?
16:46.59OluapWorkerur all nerds
16:47.01OluapWorkerhttp://i.imgur.com/istyEnq.jpg have a buni
16:47.22Cyrannianvomits candy on OluapWorker
16:47.39OluapWorkerew
16:48.03MonetYeah maybe, but what I mean is, what if one of the reasons its existed for so long is because the Draconis have constructed it so that it cannot die with ALcanti?
16:48.12CyrannianThe candy is made of vomit.
16:49.40The_RandomnessThen they have constructed it well.
16:50.44MonetMedusa thought she could occupy the Imperium by occupying Alcanti. She sent the largest fleet she could to level Araveene into a thick layer of slag.
16:50.57dromHah, oluap I see you liek reddit
16:51.47MonetEven if she did, what encouragement does she have for the viceroies of Bunsen, Borealis and the Milky Way to bow to her?
16:52.59The_RandomnessVery little, if any.
16:53.16OluapWorkerI don't browse reddit
16:53.28dromI saw that bunny in reddit this morning
16:53.33MonetBy devastating Alcanti, all Medusa ends up doing is removing one monarch only for three or more to rise and challenge her.
16:53.45dromAka about 10 hours ago.
16:54.14OluapWorkerI got it from Facepunch
16:54.20The_Randomnessdrom: As we all know, correlation = causation
16:54.30MonetShe shatters the crown of the Imperium only tocreate four different empires to deal with ,each one with localised industrial-military complexes.
16:54.43The_Randomnessamirite/
16:54.59dromk
16:55.21dromFacepunch is a place to rate "Late"s if you are a redditor.
16:55.45The_RandomnessMonet: What story did this happen in?
16:55.52The_RandomnessJust curious
16:56.16MonetI'm just hypothesising.
16:56.25dromAnd somebody made a proper Doom+TF2 crossover. http://i.imgur.com/Y8YDUWi.jpg
16:56.28MonetBut Medusa did launch a fleet at Araveene during Attero Dominatus.
16:56.37The_RandomnessAh
16:56.40OluapWorkerWouldn't losing your homeworld be a pretty big emotional victory?
16:56.45OluapWorkerIt's not just about the loss of the planet
16:57.07OluapWorkerIf she took over Alcanti, who says she can't take over any other planet?
16:58.12MonetShe probably could, but the more locations she conquers the more resources she needs to divert in order to kep thlose places firmly under her control.
16:58.54MonetAnd she has to replenish the losses she incurred during the siege.
16:59.45dromI wonder which nickname would fit the Aemonkians at best.
16:59.57The_RandomnessI must be going, bye guys
17:00.15dromThey can be also called as Aaillians. As their homeplanet is named Aailli.
17:02.09MonetIn a sense, the Imperium is like a series of roots.
17:02.36dromHamburger time, Americans are not invited.
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17:03.51MonetYou can cut the top off, you can even separate the roots, but they'll regrow.
17:04.25MonetOr the divided root bunches grow int oentirely new plants.
17:05.03MonetActually now I might be talking rubbish.
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17:16.10ImperiosCyrannian: So, I saw that Aidan guy of yours and I have an idea
17:16.15Imperios*had
17:16.22ImperiosCare to listen?
17:16.51CyrannianFire away
17:17.52ImperiosYou see, I though about adapting Javina to the SciFiverse
17:18.34ImperiosPerhaps SciJavi (her name will be Jessamine BTW) could be Aidan's close ally? It would make sense for her to support a unified human government given her Fantasy counterpart's personality
17:19.37CyrannianSounds like a great idea since I'm a fan of Javina in the Fantasyverse lately. But isn't her sci counterpart a xenophobic space Nazi?
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17:20.19ImperiosOh, you are? I am flattered!
17:20.53ImperiosShe will probably be SOMEWHAT xenophobic, but it won't be her main trait given that she will be more interested in unifying humanity
17:21.33ImperiosPerhaps Jessamine will believe that humanity can only be unified by a common enemy?
17:22.46CyrannianShe could be a friend to Collins and act as a foil to his more idealistic beliefs.
17:27.42ImperiosYou're reading my thoughts, Cyr
17:28.02ImperiosMaybe there could even be hints that the two are romantically involved... then again it is Javina we are talking about, so maybe not
17:28.29ImperiosOR maybe everyone would think that they are involved while they are in fact merely friends
17:29.44CyrannianThat sounds cool!
17:35.26ImperiosAnd I'm glad people like Javina, I thought I made her way too unlikeable
17:36.32OluapWorker_I would rather see more of the Klaxxa
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17:37.53OluapWorker_By that I mean they are getting really overshadowed and i wanna see more of them
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17:38.26Cyrannianu
17:38.40Xhowaptor
17:38.42dromlexeryo
17:38.53OluapWorker_spu
17:38.55Xhou
17:39.11dromlexeru
17:40.20ImperiosOluapWorker_: Don't worry, you will see more of them soon enough
17:41.13dromlexerWoohoo, I got 5900 messages in my DA inbox.
17:41.33dromlexer6000 next!
17:41.48OluapWorker_Golden Necropolo needs to moov too
17:41.55OluapWorker_so I can start my own plots
17:42.53Xhogoruden nekuropuroru
17:43.52XhoBoth Tantum and Golden Necropolis need to moov
17:43.53OluapWorker_ur a goruden
17:44.07ImperiosSo much to do
17:44.11Xhohttp://emotibot.net/pix/6287.jpg
17:44.18ImperiosYou know I'll just finish TND and then begin working on everything else
17:45.16OluapWorker_That picture
17:45.20OluapWorker_It gets me every time
17:46.28ImperiosMonet: So, are we going to play?
17:47.33dromlexerPlay STO?
17:49.27dromlexerDayum, I love my "Ze Maddendoktor" poster.
17:49.49MonetI'm updating now
17:50.12dromlexeris that, sto by any chance?
17:50.14ImperiosActually we'll probably have to wait a bit
17:51.00dromlexerMy character's name is Ted. I don't want to reveal my cringey username.
17:51.15MonetGuild Wars 2
17:51.34ImperiosLike, a few minutes
17:51.42ImperiosThe hourly event hasn't started yet
17:52.28Xhodum worka
17:52.57dromlexerdayum
17:53.21dromlexerAnyway, found a fitting butthurt comic
17:53.21dromlexerhttp://i.imgur.com/MUkk399.png
17:57.19dromlexerI wonder what I am if I don't own GW2.
17:59.09MonetYou're missing out on one of the best f2p games to date.
17:59.19ImperiosYa
17:59.51dromlexerGW2 is f2p... wat
18:00.15WormyWho do players fall for hoaxes like this?  http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/80441.page
18:00.36WormyStuard98 is a SporeWiiki user
18:00.46Xho"Creating an immense palace because your dominion over the pixelated world isn't great enough" - Minecraft megalomania
18:00.48XhoI can relate
18:01.05MonetWho hasn't tried doing that?
18:01.23dromlexerMonet, if it's Guild Wars 2, checking the site showed that you have to own the game.
18:01.26XhoQ1 of 2014 would have been convincing though
18:01.29Monetdrom: I don't by the term "buy to play"
18:01.29XhoIf it were posted in 2010
18:02.02MonetIMO "buy to play" is a term used by whiners who expect free to paly games to be handed to the mon a silver platter.
18:03.45dromlexerI don't get it.
18:05.47MonetPLanetside 2 is proper free to play - you don't have to buy the game and there's no subscription.
18:07.02MonetAnd then you have people who complain about cash shops...
18:07.11Cyrannian<PROTECTED>
18:07.13dromlexerAnd hats
18:07.25Monetitem shops, whatever
18:07.49MonetActually these peopel complain about being able to play a free game and buying stuff to get a clear advantage
18:08.06dromlexerYeah
18:09.07dromlexerI play f2p games that offers no p2w mechanics but has cosmetics that can be bought with real money. I usually don't mind that system.
18:10.26dromlexerAnd goddaman wargame's games like WoT having a such ammunition that makes you deal more damage to tanks.
18:10.47dromlexerCalling out someone using that ammo will cause a drama.
18:21.27WormySpore Beta music - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4UzGvPYaKc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGKtPPilzgc  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkTiWS_c5Aw  http://youtu.be/BOxqdopjhT0?t=3m5s
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18:28.03WormyThis is still the best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z4S5aMdFas
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18:30.21GhelaeHello.
18:32.30WormyHi
18:34.28WormyGhelae:  My friends think it is a alien spaceship that cloaked itself http://www.universetoday.com/109522/moby-dick-asteroid-2000-em26-on-the-lamb-help-slooh-find-it/
18:34.47GhelaeWell that's just the obvious explanation.
18:35.43GhelaeIt could just as well have been an alien spacecraft that... flew away.
18:36.34ImperiosHm
18:36.36ImperiosGuys
18:36.50ImperiosGimme a random British city, preferrably the one where people speak with posh accents
18:36.59ImperiosFor SciFiJavi's home
18:37.07XhoImperios: No such place in Britain
18:37.24WormyShe might have come from a grammar school.
18:37.24ImperiosI like British accents in general
18:37.29ImperiosIs it weird that I find them sexy?
18:37.47OluapPlayerYes
18:37.50ImperiosI remember overhearing a British family talk while on vacation
18:38.01ImperiosThere was a girl there, roughly my age or a bit older
18:38.06ImperiosShe was speaking with a British accent
18:38.13ImperiosI was genuinely turned on hur
18:38.25OluapPlayerYou were turned on by the girl then, not the accent
18:38.35WormyDon't forget, Earth has been abandoned for three centuries, but she might be a) old, b) from a British colony in the Fjord League c) very very young
18:38.36OluapPlayerI find british accents comical, not sexy hur
18:38.54XhoWormy: I don't think the whole Earth abandonment thing is canon any more
18:39.20WormyThen that is my Rights of Earth and Jovar's fiction messed up.
18:39.38WormyAnyway, Angrybirds is going to help spread the word
18:40.12WormyI could set Rights of Earth back a bit though, in fact it has to be.
18:40.28WormyIt occured during the New Grox Wars
18:40.42GhelaeEarth was never *completely* abandoned in the first place, but settlements were few and far between compared to how they are currently.
18:40.51Imperios...Southampton
18:40.52ImperiosDunno
18:40.56ImperiosWhere could she come from
18:40.57OluapPlayerGosh dangit where's Jo and Hachi
18:41.01XhoImperios: DON'T MAKE ME RAUGH
18:41.09WormyJapan had a secret base, the Ottomans lived underground, lets just keep it at that
18:41.10OluapPlayerneeds more Fog War
18:41.24XhoI'll be gone in around an hour anyway
18:41.25WormyAnd a few caretakers
18:41.41OluapPlayerfuk u
18:41.59GhelaeI imagine there were some tourist resorts as well. Eco-tourism, of course.
18:42.09ImperiosHm
18:42.12ImperiosWhat about Leicester?
18:42.20GhelaeLeicester? Posh?
18:42.25WormyThey don't have a posh accent in Leicester
18:42.39ImperiosWell screw it
18:42.47WormyI think you are looking for South East accent
18:42.47ImperiosShe might have taught herself to speak with a posh accent
18:42.54GhelaeGo for somewhere like Cambridge. Posh students there.
18:42.58Wormy^
18:42.59XhoThat's usually how it happens
18:43.04ImperiosHm
18:43.05ImperiosSlough?
18:43.09WormyPlewnty of grammar schools there
18:43.17XhoImperios: Damn you need to learn your British
18:43.30ImperiosI dunno really
18:43.36ImperiosI am not exactly well versed in British accents
18:43.44ImperiosAmerican, sure
18:43.47ImperiosBritish, not exatly
18:43.58ImperiosI don't get how you Brits get so many accents
18:44.03OluapPlayertoo much human talk lately
18:44.08GhelaeHave her come from somewhere that isn't a city.
18:44.09OluapPlayerI need something to occupy myself with
18:44.18WormyImperios:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estuary_English
18:44.36XhoOluapPlayer: Tomoko
18:44.55WormyIt is because the British Isles had constant movements of people from Europe and beyond
18:44.55OluapPlayerDon't got any Tomoko stuff right now
18:45.09ImperiosBack when I was playing Dota, my team was composed of two Kazakhstani Russians, me, a Petersburgian of Asian descent, a Russian, and an Ukrainian from Sevastopol
18:45.17ImperiosOur Russian was almost exactly the same
18:45.26GhelaeParticularly in the East Midlands, I'd say you're more likely to find "posh" accents in the surrounding villages than in the city centres.
18:45.28WormyNorth of Derbyshire and in Yorkshire, Viking words are still spoken
18:45.48WormyLike "addle"
18:45.49CyrannianAngryBirds and I are currently discussing ideas about the UN-like organisation for humanity in the hopes of bridging the gaps between those who want a unified humanity and those who don't. These suggestions range from a replica of the UN from real-life or something more unifying. Hopefully we can reach a consensus we can all accept.
18:46.40GhelaeAre you inviting us to discuss it too?
18:46.53CyrannianIndeed.
18:46.55Angrybirds_droid^ I'm willing to compromise between the two, though I'd want to keep the basic UN structure.
18:48.47ImperiosYes
18:48.48GhelaeSo what are the specific featuresof this organisaion that are in need of discussion?
18:48.52CyrannianAnd my personal opinion is that we should create something that reflects eight hundred years of political change, reflecting the Rights of Earth and the technological advancements that humanity faces. For example, instead of a Council and a single Secretary General, this organisation could be a fully e-democracy,
18:48.52ImperiosI'd like to but I'll go to sleep now
18:49.04Cyrannian*full
18:49.05Imperios^ That is an excellent idea
18:49.40WormyImperios:  Give her a Norfolk accent just for lols http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTVwdv9Pzo8
18:49.45CyrannianFor example, instead of having individual leaders representing members, a consensus is reached based on the wishes of the majority of the citizens via the internet's futuristic successor.
18:50.13GhelaeSo super-speedy referenda?
18:50.33Angrybirds_droidThat would be a government of people, not a government of governments.
18:50.51Angrybirds_droidI want to keep the UN a government of governments.
18:51.16WormyThings are a bit backward in the Fens
18:52.27GhelaeI would imagine there to be individual autonomous states, where citizens vote on what the society and law within is like (and leaving if they dislike the consensus), with the overarching organisation dealing with international (e.g. extraterrestrial, as opposed to intra-UN) affairs such as politics and, most likely, interstellar warfare.
18:53.11Angrybirds_droid^
18:53.43CyrannianYes, my proposal would mean that people's fictions would retain individual autonomy and sovereignty, with the addition of an all-inclusive legislature that would be quite unique on the wiki, I believe. Plus, it could tie into the coming of the singularity, with AIs moderating this legislature.
18:54.10GhelaeThis basically what the AI-managed part of the Civilisation is like, only that's on a gigantic scale, and there it's mainly AIs who deal with foreign policy while citizens just control their habitats/dyson swarms.
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18:54.39Angrybirds_droidThe SecGen (which I want to keep) would have basic executive powers, the foreign policy director of the UN, capable of negotiating treaties, etc.
18:54.44XhoCyrannian: So like the UN basically
18:54.52GhelaeHello.
18:55.03Angrybirds_droidPersonally, I want to keep the councils. It's a messy system I love working with.
18:55.33CyrannianXho: Sort of. The UN without a council of leaders or a secretary general from a single nation. Instead, it would have no real leader (I'm sure it would have diplomats and ambassadors), but the main force behind the organisation would be the people
18:55.49Angrybirds_droidAnd many people who aren't here have told me they feel the same way.
18:57.34GhelaeThe main distinction between the Civilisation, and states that are members of the Civilisation but not directly under AI control, is likely to be that the latter don't want superior intelligences being given control over them and their policies.
18:58.10GhelaeSo they may have autonomous AI-like systems being used in politics for whatever reasons, but these would be kept under the direct control of biologicals, e.g. councils of politicians.
19:00.15Angrybirds_droidThe councils we have right now are easier to manage and more interesting, though.
19:01.41GhelaeYes; ultimately, decisions would rest with them. Even in the future, I don't think politicians will place enough faith in the general public to manage foreign policy purely by internet referendum. :P
19:02.01Angrybirds_droid^
19:02.47Angrybirds_droidJust look at internet naming polls and see how truly terrible descicions governments could make if they ran on that.
19:05.35CyrannianThat gives me an idea. What if, along with the electronic democracy the closest thing to an executive decision making body are the opinions of a person (not necessarily a politician) put forward by a member state. Essentially they would have no real power, rather their influence carries weight and public opinion sways based on it.
19:06.51GhelaeThat sounds like there would be some resemblance to politicians, in that features such as charisma and persuasion skills would
19:06.59Ghelaebe very useful in that position.
19:07.17CyrannianThat way, no single nation would have authority over an other while simultaneously, political intrigue between these people (who could try and manipulate people into getting votes would still exist).
19:07.23GhelaeSo it could be a future evolution of the modern concept of the politician.
19:09.33MonetCould work.
19:09.39CyrannianIndeed, these individuals don't necessarily have to be government officials, but rather individuals deemed to have the public's best wishes at heart. (regardless if this is true or not)
19:09.49MonetOne big issue these days is politicians are often out of touch with the public.
19:11.09CyrannianAnd when you consider what a massive effect the internet has on politics today, imagine what things would be like in the 2800s.
19:11.45XhoPsi - beer
19:12.43CyrannianAngrybirds_droid: What do you think?
19:13.22Angrybirds_droidI think that any attempt to reform the UN would fall into chaos and vetoes.
19:13.31GhelaeJust to get the lowest levels of this organisation out of the way, are we agreed on this: there are polities which are autonomous, and in the case of democracies these are essentially governed by electronic referenda;.but a higher organisation deals with international affairs such as human-ET relations and interstellar war (and perhaps sometimes stepping in to prevent things like human rights abuses in the polities)?
19:13.33XhoMight have just remembered the most British phrase ever
19:13.37Xho"Gordon Bennett!"
19:13.57Angrybirds_droidSo the system would have to be a careful evolution of the old system.
19:14.09CyrannianGhelae: I agree with that.
19:14.32CyrannianI'd imagine that 800 years is more than enough time for the UN to develop into this.
19:15.21CyrannianConsider the changes in politics since the 1200s.
19:15.26Xho1200's
19:15.32XhoPolitics = Old Testament
19:16.08Angrybirds_droidTrue, though old systems replaced new ones. This one would endure and resist change by nature.
19:16.42XhoSize 11 shoes can be really detrimental sometimes
19:16.44GhelaeThen shall we consider what things keep it going and how these might change?
19:17.35Angrybirds_droidSure
19:18.26CyrannianYou should also consider all the conflicts that happened in fiction since the 21st Centuries, dozens of wars, at least one world war, intercolonial wars, the Thal Invasion, (did the Xhodocto invade at some stage during the Imperial Civil War, I'm not sure if that element is still canon anymore), etc
19:18.34CyrannianAll of this would surely have a profound impact.
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19:19.28CyrannianThe old UN system could have been abandoned in a similar way to the League of Nations by the time of WWIII
19:19.29GhelaeThe Xhodocto didn't do that thing on Earth any more, but the Kindred Coalition brought a huge cluster of "alien" near-human societies into the mix.
19:19.32GhelaeHello.
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19:19.49CyrannianHello there
19:19.55Hachi_ngh why is Imperios always gone
19:21.06MonetHe was on earlier
19:21.13OluapPlayerstupid buni
19:21.17OluapPlayery u gone all day
19:21.19AngrybirdsTrue, but I think the UN would have been repurposed to enforce the treaty that put an end to the colonial wars and as a result be seen as essential. It would be strengthened and altered in slight ways, but not overhauled.
19:21.32WormyI enjoyed linking the fanfic fiction, Jovar's fiction and the new human fiction together
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19:21.59AngrybirdsBecause an overhaul would need consensus, and try getting the Yamato, Euraspact, France, the ESR, and the Ottomans to agree on anything.
19:22.18WormyI'd like to see some interact between the Kindred Coalition and humans in Andromeda and Cyrannus
19:22.21OluapPlayerHachi_ Wormy: can you two rp right now?
19:22.33CyrannianI think we are discussing a gradual, natural and flowing change over a period of eight centuries.
19:22.36WormyNot really, I'm doing my work.  Maybe in 2 hours
19:22.44Hachi_I'm having dinner soon
19:22.45OluapPlayerNot today then
19:22.51OluapPlayerShould've guessed
19:23.00dromlexerValve is going to release a movie about F2P games and Dota2.
19:23.00dromlexerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-RKqGaNq-Y
19:23.03AngrybirdsCyrannian : Yes, a natural change towards a stronger UN.
19:23.46CyrannianIt is hardly realisitic to say that the UN would continue with only slight changes through many continent shattering, often atomic wars, over a period of eight centuries and remain more-or-less identical to the modern incarnation.
19:23.53Cyrannian*realistic
19:23.58WormyI agree
19:24.19AngrybirdsAs do I. The framework would be the same, but it would have DRASTICALLY different applications.
19:24.39GhelaeWhat we need to consider is specifics: what exactly needs to change to get to Cyr's vision, and what exact things would prevent that change?
19:24.57GhelaeAt the moment, I feel like I could contribute to this discussion with nothing more than poetic metaphors.
19:25.03WormyI shall have to talk to Oluap about a good time to roleplay with me.  I hope this has not upset him
19:25.05Ghelae"Even solid pitch flows given enough time."
19:25.47dromlexerCan I put this {{Featured article}} to every article that was once featured according to the list?
19:25.49AngrybirdsGhelae : The thing is that the people I spoke to and represent in this discussion would much rather stay with the current UN structure.
19:25.57WormyI could yabber on about optimism and open-ended progress
19:26.30CyrannianThose people are able to speak their minds for themselves, I'm sure.
19:26.41AngrybirdsExcept they're not here.
19:27.08CyrannianIndeed, we are just discussing things here. Nothing will be changed until a blog is made so that whoever wants to contribute can.
19:27.12WormyBut even Popperian falsification will be a challenge to apply to politics, since I'm not very versed in politics
19:27.53CyrannianGhelae: Since you seem to be neutral, could you make a blog in return for five magic beans?
19:27.57GhelaeSo Cyr, what was your idea? Decision-making is still done by the general public, but "politicians" exist to sway their votes?
19:28.06GhelaeAnd that depends. What kind of magic is it?
19:28.26AngrybirdsAlright. What did you guys think of my Secretary General idea, an executive who leads the UN as an organization, heads its military, makes relations with alien nations on behalf of humanity, is a negotiator between human nations, etc.
19:28.42dromlexerWhy isn't every featured articles marked with the box used to mark an article as featured?
19:28.43Hachi_I liked it
19:28.54dromlexerAnd articles that has been featured.
19:29.04WormyI'd like to make a Kindred Coalition representative
19:29.09AngrybirdsDo it.
19:29.14CyrannianIt's my personal view that its realistic to think that two trends will continue: Distrust towards politicians and government and a rapid growth in the influence and prevalence in the Internet.
19:29.44CyrannianGhelae: Exactly, that would also mean that the UN candidate vote would still go ahead.
19:29.49AngrybirdsThe character who would occupy that position would be elected by the human community.
19:30.38GhelaeSince you've not answered my question, I'll assume that the beans are infused with kitten-eating magic and I'll go ahead and make the blog now.
19:30.57WormyJaffa cake flavour?
19:31.13CyrannianI also think it would make sense if we avoided a name that had connotations with Earth and baseline humans. I'd imagine that elements such as the Kindred Coalition would be miffed by that.
19:31.32CyrannianGhelae: Jaffa cake flavoured kitten magic.
19:31.33AngrybirdsFor the UN? I'd rather it keep its name.
19:31.46GhelaeThat's the best kind of kitten magic!
19:32.26Hachi_Yamato would disagree entirely with the Kindred Coalition's stance
19:32.28Hachi_He'd think everybody was accomodating for aliens
19:32.58WormyJapan Samurai mechas vs.Klingons :P
19:33.12CyrannianI also think it would be cool if we could tie in elements of the Human Republic and the original Humanity fiction. Perhaps the Jovar are members?
19:33.13Hachi_hur
19:33.34CyrannianOr at least some of them
19:33.36AngrybirdsCyrannian : Sure.
19:33.44WormyPart of the reason I created the KIndred Coalition was to tie everything together
19:34.00WormyNext I need to tie in the extragalactic humabs
19:34.07AngrybirdsI feel like the UN would have alien and plenty of human members.
19:34.19CyrannianWormy: That would be cool, I forgot to respond to it above (about Cyrannus Humanoids)
19:34.27Hachi_Yamato - dum immigrant foreigners
19:34.41AngrybirdsIt'd act more like a government for the Plazith Rim than a simply human government.
19:34.57WormyToberek has already contacted the DI to talk about their connections with Orion Spur humans
19:35.37Wormy@Hachi:  I can see the Yamato winning this one
19:36.39CyrannianIf it is going to act like an organisation that isn't limited to humans, it would make a lot of sense if it avoided a bias towards a particular element of human history that I'd imagine not a lot of future human citizens would put a lot of faith in given the devastating conflicts since the 21st century
19:37.32WormyIf this is part of The Civilisation, this would be a hub for aliens of all kinds
19:37.54WormyThere would no problem or should be none from any biases like that
19:38.32WormyI'm goiung to use this as an opportunity to anncounce an idea I had last night
19:38.59Cyrannian<PROTECTED>
19:39.05AngrybirdsCyrannian : I'd actually argue that it evolved into incorporating aliens as humanity expanded, small ones at first with strong ties to humanity.
19:39.21WormyAngrybirds:  When you finish your map, I might create a video showing a sequence of Plazith Rim's history, the territories changing and so on
19:39.33CyrannianThat seems humanocentric to me.
19:39.52GhelaeThe Civilisation provides a huge variety of benefits to its members besides direct use of the AIs.
19:40.15GhelaeThere are the resource and energy transfer networks, for example.
19:40.40WormyProjects and goals beyond our 21st century limits of imagination!
19:40.56AngrybirdsCyrannian : Yet it makes sense. It would evolve from being a human-based organization to a wider international one.
19:41.17GhelaeOne of the AIs has a job performing scientific simulations in fields of chemistry from medicine to materials science (and scientists and engineers across the galaxy presumably put these to the test all the time).
19:41.52GhelaeYou want to know what the piezooptic coefficient of Grimbolsaurian saliva is? It's all there in the Civilisation's databases! :P
19:42.34WormyThere are no-go areas of the AI-Netspace though, but you'd have a hard time interacting with it.
19:44.28CyrannianAngrybirds: I personally don't think aliens joining a UN that is more-or-less identical to the modern incarnation makes any sense at all. :P
19:46.05CyrannianHowever, I suppose it is possible that humanity meets an ally and agrees to merge the UN with a similar alien organisation.
19:46.27CyrannianOver a long period of mutual friendship and trust, obviously
19:47.51Hachi_Yamato - No.
19:48.03WormyI've started uses Indesign to write reports.  Its much much nicer than Office
19:48.25AngrybirdsCyrannian: Think about it. Humanity his several hundred systems, while an alien nation with two might want to benefit from the community.
19:48.58Angrybirds^ This is in the past, and this would probably spark a large debate. But it would set a precedent and soon aliens are joining left and right.
19:49.08Hachi_This is why Yamato doesn't contribute its soldiers or its tech to anybody :P
19:49.33Hachi_Their/His interests are purely human-centered
19:49.43WormyIt has more than several hundred.  The Kindred Coalition probably has thousands collectively, and are older than Terran humanity in space.
19:50.36CyrannianIf the Kindred Coalition is older and has thousands more systems, what would be the difference in the UN merging with it?
19:50.37AngrybirdsWormy : In present, yes
19:51.00AngrybirdsI imagine France would have tens of thousands of systems at least.
19:51.31WormyWhat are the most isolationist or hostile human factions currently?  I guess the Ottomans and Yamato.  Who else?
19:51.48Ghelaehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Ghelæ/Human_Politics_Stuff
19:51.59WormyEuraspact?  Far too inactive to tell
19:53.24Hachi_Euraspact is pretty active
19:53.26Hachi_As is POTATO
19:53.27dromlexerI spent alot time on biology, the rest is basics, but finished as far now in my opinion. What do you guys think?
19:53.27dromlexerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Aemonkian
19:53.44Hachi_And Yamato isn't actually isolationist, but they are very hostile
19:53.58Hachi_To aliens, anyway
19:54.21dromlexerI haven't spent much time on individuals, because I forgot my Spore cds at my dorm.
19:55.07Hachi_ngh can't access wiki right now
19:56.10Hachi_brb
19:57.11dromlexerk
19:57.17dromlexeris sad day
19:57.20WormyPerhaps in the earlier centuries, but I'm struggling to see much need for conflict at all after the 26th century
19:57.43dromlexerAnyone got a feedback on my creature?
19:57.56WormyPerhaps Humanity isn't as chaotic as the DCP thinks
19:58.35WormyI'll have a look later, I should be working
19:59.57Ghelaedromlexer: You've definitely put a lot of thought into the biology. Perhaps you should divide it into subsections (e.g. body plan, internal organs) to make specific information easier to locate.
20:00.26dromlexerYeah.
20:01.00dromlexerOr putting that on a separate page and replace it with a conclusion and a link to the specific page.
20:01.18GhelaeA subpage is another possibility, yeah.
20:02.19GhelaeI'm not going to correct minor grammatical and stylistic errors, but technically speaking, "olfactory sense" is better terminology than "smelling sense".
20:03.40GhelaeI also don't know if you should talk about "mammal species" as though alien life necessarily fits into Terran phylogenetic groups, but it might be worth pointing out that the lack of olfaction is rare in the universe's terrestrial metazoan life overall, not just in mammalian species.
20:05.10GhelaeOtherwise, it's about as good a creature page as most, if not better.
20:06.20dromlexerThanks for the feedback, I'll rewrite a bit about those you pointed out.
20:06.48dromlexerAll people don't know olfactorial sense actually means in everyday talk.
20:07.10GhelaeThen they'll learn something new if they read your page. :P
20:07.38GhelaeYou could mention "sense of smell" first, and then "olfaction" or "olfactory" in the same context to provide a clue.
20:07.56dromlexerYeah, much easier if you put small explanations too.
20:08.30dromlexerlike, "olfactorial, smelling sense". I wonder if I executed it correctly.
20:09.13GhelaeBut, specifically, "smelling sense" - and "____ing sense" in general - isn't a phrase I think I've ever heard. "Sense of _____" is much more common.
20:09.26dromlexerSince the biology is pretty big, so I moved it from the characteristics to it's own place. So the navigation box won't be a' wonky.
20:09.56dromlexerInteresting.
20:11.05Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog_comment:Ghel%C3%A6/Human_Politics_Stuff/@comment-Cyrannian-20140219200939?curid=180775&oldid=585381 - What do you think?
20:11.40dromlexerI don't really execute the "sense of ____" in my native language, since eg. sense of smelling is translated as "luktsinne" which directly translates as "smelling sense".
20:14.29dromlexerGhelae: I still can execute eg. "mammal aliens"?
20:14.57Ghelae"Mammal aliens", or perhaps "mammalian aliens", is perfectly acceptable grammar.
20:15.25dromlexerAh, thanks.
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20:38.19dromlexerhello
20:38.19GhelaeHello.
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20:41.40dromlexeryo
20:43.48GhelaeHello.
20:46.01dromlexerSo I added some "expanders" in my tabbers.
20:46.01dromlexerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Aemonkian#Individuals
20:46.08dromlexerI'm of genius.
20:48.22Hachi_Expand Dong
20:48.31dromlexeraye
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20:49.17dromlexerhai
20:50.00GhelaeHello.
20:50.00The_RandomnessHello
20:55.29dromlexerhe didn't answer, what a "surmopp".
21:00.22dromlexersigh
21:00.42dromlexerMy edit log is full of edits with mere 10-20 min between each on the same article.
21:06.07dromlexerMan I really love Parkaboy.
21:06.33Hachi_Parkaboy?
21:06.48The_RandomnessHe's a creator on Spore.
21:07.04dromlexerHe's greatly known for this adventures.
21:07.08The_RandomnessInactive along with the rest of the older parts of the community
21:07.26dromlexerMany good parts of the community to be exact.
21:07.35The_Randomness^
21:08.34dromlexerThe rest is now filled with drool-kiddos who doesn't know what they are going. But maybe it's me, because I didn't turn to look back since then.
21:09.54MonetHead creatures, recolours, ponies, things that took 4 minutes to make, thecommunity 'aint what it used to be.
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21:11.05dromlexerAnd arts using vehicles turned into ugly art on wheels.
21:11.38dromlexerwith only parts slabbly added to it
21:12.28TekDroidMy original models were definitely a little... rough.
21:13.20TekDroidRather inside-the-box and stat-oriented.
21:14.19dromlexerI remember that I made an artillery with vehicle parts and then published it to Sporepedia. Urgh, I shouldn't do them outside the colonial one.
21:15.02TekDroidI made a basic one in my earlier days.
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21:17.10Hachi_Speaking of demons made of vagipenises
21:17.13Hachi_spu
21:17.18TekDroidO.o
21:17.55Xhou
21:18.07XhoAnd what the fuck
21:18.18GhelaeHello.
21:19.22dromlexerwhat the fuck man
21:19.29dromlexerbut...
21:19.34dromlexerhonestly, I saw that coming.
21:19.45dromlexerI knew it
21:19.53TekDroidMy computer loaded up Spore in like... 900x600 resolution. Damn it's terrible.
21:21.15GhelafkMuch like "Ghelaway" is a portmanteau of "Ghelae" and "away", "Ghelafk" comes from "Ghelae" and "afk", for when I don't intend to be away for more than a few minutes.
21:21.34GhelafkBecause I got bored of using "Ghelae_not_here" and wanted something a little more original.
21:21.35Monethttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1798683_387029018100534_1295578392_n.jpg Imp and I were here earlier
21:21.44Cyrannian_For a very strange moment I thought "afk" stood for "a fuck"
21:21.57Hachi_olol
21:22.39XhoMonet: "Angazhar - gtf outta mah lawn"
21:22.55Cyrannian_Monet: What game is that? It reminds me of the STO hud
21:23.05MonetGuild Wars 2
21:23.29MonetIronically this is...er...was...the game's primary hub city.
21:24.02MonetTara Strong-voiced insane British plant lady moved in
21:24.07dromlexerLooking at my old account's creations. Reliving my sweet memories I had with this game.
21:24.08dromlexerMaaaan
21:24.10dromlexerhttp://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Hornet99CF%7C500570905155%3Apg-20
21:24.26dromlexerKeep in mind that I'm not born in 99
21:24.34Monetthat giant metal thing in the upper left is her, well it's kinda an airship
21:25.24MonetIt lands by inserting a colossal borehole into the ground.
21:25.54XhoDromlexer: y u not born in 99
21:26.19Hachi_Well I was born in 96 sooo
21:26.44dromlexerXho: Because I was a little shit and randomly guessed game since back then.
21:26.44XhoHachi_: y u not born in 94
21:27.06Cyrannian_I find it so weird when people say they were born in a year since 1998. It makes me feel very old.
21:27.26XhoHm likewise
21:27.34XhoTo make it scarier
21:27.42XhoPEOPLE WHO WERE BORN IN 2000 ARE 14 THIS YEAR
21:27.50dromlexer17 this year
21:27.54GhelThere are people taking their GCSEs now who are so young, they probably can't even remembr S Club 7.
21:28.03GhelPersonally, I find that terrifying.
21:28.10Hachi_Aye
21:28.12XhoGhel: Hell I remember S Club 7 in full swing and I want to forget that
21:28.17XhoThey're lucky
21:28.17Cyrannian_Oh god, I remember New Years in 2000.
21:28.53dromlexeroh god, I remember the good AoE games.
21:29.05Cyrannian_And the Spice Girls. I had a crush on scary spice
21:29.10dromlexerAnd the C&C before it was butchered.
21:29.14XhoCourse you did hur
21:29.29XhoI remember owning an original copy of the first Sims
21:29.35XhoThat game's good even now
21:29.36MonetSame
21:29.37dromlexerOh yes.
21:30.01dromlexerI used to play them when I was little shit.
21:30.01MonetThat one event in SIms SUperstar still makes me laugh.
21:30.06Cyrannian_Same. And I remember the expansion with Marilyn Monroe.
21:30.07dromlexerIt's was my sister's cd. So.
21:30.33GhelThis is starting to turn into a nostalgia-fest.
21:30.49dromlexerAnd that expansion with shops and fancy counters
21:31.08MonetMy sim invites a celebrity to his house, celebrity cooks dinner, sets herself and the kitchen on fire.
21:31.10Hachi_I remember watching Johnny Bravo as a child
21:31.10Xhohttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQV0NExCQAAeSM9.jpg Now Jesus that's old
21:31.13Hachi_That kind of explains a lot
21:31.25dromlexerSo tiny
21:31.52MonetBa-do ba doo, dooh, ah-do ba dooh, ba-dooh...
21:32.06Cyrannian_I remember the Godzilla cartoon, Pinky and the Brain, Thomas the Tank Engine and my own personal Pokemon craze
21:32.08dromlexerHell, that expanison with pets expanded the area further.
21:32.26dromlexerAnd those old pokemon shows
21:32.32dromlexerEd Edd n Eddy.
21:32.33dromlexerShit
21:32.42GhelI could never bring myself to collect many expansion packs for any of the Sims games. But my favourite bit was Makin' Magic. And generally anything to do with magic.
21:32.46dromlexerI was to watch all of them, again and again.
21:33.18Cyrannian_I remember crying that one episode of Pokemon when Ash had to keep Charizard from dying by keeping his tail-fire lit during heavy rain.
21:33.24XhoGhel: Skeleton maid
21:33.28Cyrannian_*in that one episode
21:33.31GhelWhich you might not expect for someone doing a degree in Natural Sciences, but if there were a degree in *Unnatural* Sciences, I would totally be doing that,
21:33.32dromlexerAnyone who seen EEnE remember that scene where Edd got his head inside a doll house.
21:33.33Hachi_Cyrannian_: Charmander, you mean
21:33.46Gheldoing that instead*
21:33.51MonetCyrannian: thatt's bringing me to tears.
21:34.05MonetI adored Ash's Charmander as a kid!
21:34.11Hachi_But
21:34.15Hachi_Charmander was a little shit
21:34.25GhelXho: I actually prefered the Servo, but I usually had both in my houses.
21:34.31XhoWow Servo
21:34.34XhoThat's going really far back
21:34.39Cyrannian_I thought he only became a little shit when he evolved into Charmeleon
21:34.42Xho"The Age of Servo"
21:34.45Hachi_Well
21:34.46Hachi_Yeah
21:34.56Hachi_Then it continued into his Charizard days
21:34.59Hachi_And he'd do nothing Ash wanted
21:35.05GhelAnd I often killed off Sims so that there'd be ghosts in the garden for the next Sim to live with.
21:35.08MonetI don't rreally remember what he was like past Charmander.
21:35.13GhelIt was really easy. Just get them to set off fireworks inside.
21:35.18Cyrannian_I wuved Charmander because of his slight resemblance to a dinosaur. :D
21:35.20dromlexerQuick Shot Ed was one of the funniest Ed Edd n Eddy episodes that I have ever seen.
21:35.20XhoI only ever watched like the first series of Pokemon, it wasn't the same without Brock
21:35.29Hachi_Aye
21:35.38Hachi_Brock is like
21:35.45Hachi_My personal inspiration
21:36.02GhelI do vaguely remember watching Pokemon, but I don't recall any details.
21:36.18Cyrannian_And then I remember loving Yu-Gi-Oh
21:36.26MonetI'm goin got do some tweaking to Pax Draconica.
21:36.38Cyrannian_All those effeminate villains out to steal yer soul
21:36.49XhoMy life went sort of downhill after I was introduced to Silent Witness as a kid
21:37.06XhoMy parents never seemed to stop me from watching it
21:37.15XhoAnd now I can't get those images out of my head
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21:37.27XhoAnd there's the origin of my morbid fear of corpses
21:37.51Liquid_Ink_Damn. I missed it.
21:37.52MonetI remember watching Horizon as far back as at least 11 years old.
21:37.55Cyrannian_I thought they brightened up your day
21:37.59Liquid_Ink_I don't supposed you'd repeat it?
21:38.05Cyrannian_My life is a lie
21:38.19XhoThat imagery though
21:38.28XhoYou shouldn't show that to like a 9 year old
21:38.31GhelCyr: He enjoys *making* corpses, not looking at them.
21:38.39Cyrannian_I remember watching Signs as a kid and it scared the hell out of me.
21:39.03Cyrannian_And the fact that my dad and sister were huge X-Files fans didn't help at all
21:39.20XhoX-Files was some serious shit hur
21:39.29XhoMusic still spooks me slightly
21:39.35XhoAs well as the Silent Witness music
21:39.38XhoThat really spooks me
21:39.39dromlexerMan, Anyone have seen Ed Edd n Eddy.
21:39.58MonetSigns was chilling, then I watched Nostalgia Critic's review and I can't take the aliens seriously anymore.
21:39.58dromlexerThose episodes makes me laugh even watching it for 10th time.
21:40.00XhoI can do pretty much anything except forensic murder dramas nowadays
21:40.07GhelI remember that I used to be scared of the Grinch, purely from misremembered recollections of trailers for it in the cinema. Then I watched it and obviously I was completely fine.
21:40.27GhelI think I was about 11 when I finally saw it.
21:40.37Cyrannian_I don't think I even watched the film, it was just the scene at the birthday party terrified me.
21:44.11MonetI could watch Raiders of the Lost Ark all the way up to when they opened the ark itself.
21:44.21MonetDat shit scarred me.
21:44.51XhoAh yeah that's another one
21:44.52XhoLast Crusade
21:44.55XhoAt the end
21:45.01XhoDonovan turns into a skeleton
21:45.03Xhonaaaaah braaaaah
21:45.19XhoMy childhood was messed up in retrospect
21:45.30Cyrannian_Dat was scary shit
21:45.37Liquid_Ink_I remember I used to be terrified of the first scene of A New Hope
21:45.49Cyrannian_The Angel of Death popping up to say hai in particular freaked me out
21:46.01Liquid_Ink_And also Monsters Inc. That shit freaked me out.
21:46.18XhoLiquid_Ink_: bro wat u talkin about
21:46.23Cyrannian_Oh, the autopsy scene in Independence Day
21:46.27MonetI was fine for Last Crusade - sure Donovan turned into a skeleton but my child mind misinterpreted what the night said.
21:46.33Monetknight*
21:46.45Monet"he chose...poorly" he did look very poorly.
21:46.56XhoMonet: Imagine replacing the knight with Psi
21:47.12Liquid_Ink_Xho: I was scared of Monsters Inc. That chameleon dude kept me awake at night.
21:47.23MonetYou mean the whole "stands up and draws hsi swordo nly to fall backwards"?
21:47.49MonetCyrannian: Release...me...now!
21:47.52XhoThat would be a hell of a sword for Psi to fall over
21:48.42Cyrannian_Ngh, so creepy
21:49.19dromlexerhttp://seekcartoon.com/watch/16266-ed-edd-n-eddy-s01e07-quick-shot-ed.html#.UwUkHoaupbg
21:49.20Cyrannian_Oh! Spielberg's War of the Worlds. My dad brought my sister and I to it when I was ten and I'm pretty sure I covered my eyes throughout it
21:51.01Wormyback
21:51.02MonetA.I.
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21:51.15XhoHachi_: Meshuggah Face of Wall Street has an article from the Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/the-wolf-of-wall-street-meshuggah-version-is-a-surprisingly-perfect-movie-mashup-9133285.html
21:51.20MonetI can hardly remember a time watching that were I didn't feel slightly creeped-out
21:52.17Cyrannian_I've never seen AI, but I think I'd enjoy it based on clips on YouTube
21:53.23MonetThe main character - a robot child - hits uncanny valley so hard it was easy for me to feel uneasy whenever he was onscreen.
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21:54.19AdmiralPandahello all
21:54.24GhelHello.
21:55.21WormyDCP cities aere fluid like those robot blocks in the end of AI
21:57.19dromlexerhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130529083323/ed_/images/4/43/I_like_how_Jonny_is_stuck.png
21:57.54MonetThe title reminds me of another old show I used to watch
21:57.55MonetJhonny Quest.
21:58.06Hachi_I prefer Johnny Bravo
21:58.19dromlexerNoh Ed Edd n Eddy
21:58.43WormyI found that too weird
21:58.50WormyAnd that is saying something
21:58.58MonetI also remember a period of Where In The World Is Carmen Sanidego.
21:59.01dromlexerWhat's weird?
21:59.10WormyEd Edd n Eddy
21:59.15dromlexerAh.
21:59.20AdmiralPandaJohnny Bravo was hilarious
21:59.35AdmiralPandaas a kid you always wanted him to get the girl, as a grown man you realise he doesn't have a chance
21:59.38dromlexerI didn't get the Johnny Bravo.
22:00.06dromlexerAnd anyone know Courage the Coward dog?
22:00.10MonetI remember a few episodes as a teen
22:00.11Hachi_Aye
22:00.14Hachi_That show was horrifying
22:00.16Monetof Johnny Bravo
22:00.22dromlexerAnd funny at same time
22:00.38dromlexerI remember where Courage feel downstairs with a door to the head.
22:01.08MonetEd Edd and Eddy, Courage, Ren and Stimpy - Three shows I do not fancy watching.
22:01.35WormyI like Catdog
22:01.45dromlexerI loved Scooby Doo, Courage, Tom n Jerry and Ed Edd n Eddy. That's all.
22:01.51WormyPinky the Brain
22:01.59WormySamurai Jack.
22:02.07WormyScooby Doo
22:02.10dromlexerDon't forget the Power Girls and Dexter's Lab
22:02.11MonetOh yes! Pinky and the Brain!
22:02.18Hachi_Ooh Samurai Jack and Pinky and the Brain
22:02.23Hachi_I loved Samurai Jack
22:02.30dromlexerPowerpuff Girls.
22:02.32AdmiralPandaSamurai Jack is awesome
22:02.46dromlexerI didn't watch much of it but it was a touching show
22:02.53MonetI always liked that metal body Brain used - it made him 8ft tall but he still ahd his ow nhead so it looked so dtupid.
22:02.54WormyI'd still watch it if I could
22:02.57Monetstupid*
22:03.01Hachi_Aku is perhaps one of my favourite cartoon villains
22:03.11Hachi_He's horrifying in his own aspects
22:03.17Hachi_Yet comedic
22:03.38AdmiralPandaI mean come on, the shapeshifting master of evil can't even tell a bunch of kids a story that makes him look cooler than Jack
22:03.40dromlexerAnyone remember that Satan from Powerpuff Girls.
22:03.55Cyrannian_God yes
22:04.08Hachi_dromlexer: All I remember was a character called "Him" or something
22:04.14AdmiralPandayeah it was Him
22:04.16WormyYou've just brought a memory to surface
22:04.16Cyrannian_He was so fabulously camp
22:04.18Hachi_Him was horrifying for me for some reason
22:04.31dromlexerAh yes.
22:04.31AdmiralPandahe only had one good episode I really remember
22:04.38AdmiralPandathat one where he invaded the kids' dreams
22:04.43dromlexerEy, Chicken and Cow!
22:04.47AdmiralPandathe rest made him look so bad
22:04.52WormyThomas the Tank Engine was horrifying to me once.
22:05.03Hachi_Wormy: Do you remember the boulder with a face
22:05.34dromlexerHachi_: You are now making think of Super Mario
22:05.39WormyBad nightmires.  BAD
22:06.36dromlexerI find the Scooby Doo episode where the team investigated an Ice cream factory.
22:06.44dromlexerOh god, those ghosts still scare me.
22:07.03WormyHachi_  This guy in Teletubbies also scared me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMwDTv7akJ4
22:08.17Hachi_Wormy: Why did you have to remind me of that
22:09.32WormySo when he finally comes after us all, it won't be too much of a shock.
22:09.39dromlexerWormy: I find anything wrong with that.
22:11.08WormyIt sounds like a scheming demon.
22:11.50dromlexerOkay
22:11.54dromlexerThose ghosts
22:11.55dromlexerhttp://scoobydoo.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ghost_of_The_Bad_Humor_Man
22:12.15Hachi_I remember those ghosts]
22:12.20Hachi_Absolutely horrifying
22:12.40dromlexerThe brown was more horrifying
22:14.39WormyThe stuff they put on for young kids is defintely right out of an acid trip.
22:15.58dromlexerHah
22:15.59dromlexerYeah
22:16.21dromlexerAnyway, it was my favorite, even it gave me chills.
22:16.22dromlexerhttp://scoobydoo.wikia.com/wiki/The_Scooby-Doo_Show
22:16.46dromlexerGotta go.
22:16.50dromlexerSee ya mates.
22:16.55Hachi_Cya
22:24.56GhelI'm going to go now. Bye!
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22:41.50TekDroidTest
22:41.53TekDroid~test
22:41.53infobotit has been said that test is not funny
22:42.14TekDroidUgh... spore just crashed.
22:43.43TekDroidI think it was DI-related
22:48.52Monethttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140219224823/spore/images/6/63/DI_Govt._Heirachy_2a.png okay I have a working chart here, its not too messy is it?
22:49.05TekDroidOdd, seem a certain part causes my DI Spore to crash.
22:49.41Cyrannian_<PROTECTED>
22:49.52Cyrannian_Bye!
22:50.02MonetGoodnight
22:50.02TekDroidLooks great. What's an Aedan though?
22:50.09TekDroidBye Cyr
22:50.15MonetTekdroid: Subsector governor.
22:50.23TekDroidAh.
22:50.44TekDroidI like it, interesting but logical system.
22:52.43MonetGiven the advancement in technology and society I imagine that while the Grand Senate usually convenes on Alcanti, viceroies can defer to the reps in their part of the 1st gig.
22:53.29MonetSince the two primary civillian councils - the Homeland council and the provincial council - are made up of praetors and province representetives respectively.
22:53.39TekDroidI had that on a smaller scale in Farengeto
22:54.20TekDroidSo it seems the KneeOn Purrpull eye in the DI mod crashes my game.
22:55.10MonetVesperon may get touchy with this since Viceroies can act without his say so.
22:56.41MonetThen again...they're all picked by the paragon.
22:56.53Monetwhilist the chancellor is picked by the Grand Senate.
22:58.16TekDroidInteresting
22:58.54MonetAs i mentioned earlier, in regards to the system of governance for provinces...the Grand Senate tends to turn a largely blind eye.
22:59.09MonetSo long as the system remains productive, of course
23:06.21TekDroidMakes sense
23:11.26Monet"Due to the vast scales of the Imperium, most meetings are conducted through holoconferencing, using advanced 3D hologram technology to temporarily convert even a modest office or an individual's bedroom into a seat within the Grand Senate's rotunda in Minos'Drakon."
23:52.01Wormyhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:DCP-Vermulan_War#Stoppage

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