00:00.35 | OluapPlayer | Alright I found the shortcut, made things much simpler |
00:00.39 | dromlexer | Does this explain all? http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/631912504059954106/D7B67F2EB240B7EA72D9A72EA6F24884FC2ACC00/ |
00:00.43 | OluapPlayer | Time to try 4Kids with Uchi |
00:01.53 | ALaggyPanda | dromlexer: THE LEGEND NEVER DIIIIEEEESSSS |
00:03.09 | dromlexer | More top lel artworks with dark souls |
00:03.10 | dromlexer | http://steamcommunity.com/app/211420/images/?p=1&browsefilter=toprated |
00:03.21 | OluapPlayer | pff |
00:03.22 | dromlexer | Loading times might be slow |
00:03.26 | OluapPlayer | Couldn't evne kill a single King |
00:03.46 | ALaggyPanda | wut |
00:03.48 | OluapPlayer | And their attacks still go through my shield |
00:03.50 | ALaggyPanda | hao u so bad |
00:03.59 | OluapPlayer | fuk u faget |
00:04.03 | ALaggyPanda | Ko: they're still gonna go through, but that's cus there's no 100% magic resist shield |
00:04.23 | ALaggyPanda | and you sold the soul to one of the 90% shields, and you're too weak to use the other 90% shield |
00:04.52 | OluapPlayer | dam dis |
00:05.00 | OluapPlayer | I'm gonna farm souls to upgrade my Zwei to +15 |
00:06.26 | OluapPlayer | there done already hur |
00:07.29 | ALaggyPanda | I was about to say make it divine or lightning for dat bonus damage but whatever works for you |
00:07.47 | ALaggyPanda | go buy some gold pine resin from domnhall or something |
00:08.35 | dromlexer | gotta go and sleep |
00:08.42 | dromlexer | ngiht muthafackars |
00:08.49 | ALaggyPanda | rude |
00:08.51 | OluapPlayer | You said it yourself I should make the Zwei regular +15 |
00:09.22 | dromlexer | ALaggyPanda: because habits |
00:09.34 | dromlexer | Good night anyway. |
00:09.37 | ALaggyPanda | I know, I'm just saying that 4Kings are weak to lightning or divine |
00:10.00 | ALaggyPanda | but now that you've spent a slab on it, just keep it normal and use gold pine resin |
00:27.15 | OluapPlayer | Bha i'll try again tomorrow |
00:27.20 | OluapPlayer | Bah even |
00:27.46 | ALaggyPanda | :P |
00:34.12 | Monet | Loking at my recent work on DA, yeah, what the hell was I thinking? |
00:35.13 | Monet | Going into Architecture that is |
00:37.44 | Monet | http://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/WIP-Uriel-s-Longsabre-433041029 I created this tonight for instance |
00:41.43 | TekDroid | I like it. The gold part at the base of the blade is very interesting |
00:42.26 | TekDroid | And the handle is simple yet well done and appealing |
00:43.18 | TekDroid | That what you're looking for? XD |
00:44.28 | TekDroid | I'm joking of course, that was sincere. |
00:44.32 | Monet | Well...its more...I wonder how I got "architecture" from this. |
00:44.41 | OluapPlayer | Hachi_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GIp-lOn0ls |
00:45.18 | TekDroid | ~test |
00:45.19 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny |
00:46.04 | ALaggyPanda | Monet: I want to make a Skyrim curved sword joke but it's a sabre :P |
00:46.28 | Monet | Heh |
00:47.08 | Monet | The crossguad may be a bit ostentatious. |
00:47.21 | ALaggyPanda | depends, are you looking for a functional or ceremonial sword? |
00:47.23 | Monet | But the idea is Uriel uses this sword both for combat and showing off |
00:47.45 | Monet | Definitely fits the ceremonial criteria. |
00:48.05 | ALaggyPanda | in that case it works fine, since you can use the protrusions to catch an opponent's blade |
00:48.34 | Monet | Oh yeah... |
00:49.08 | ALaggyPanda | in fact it'd be rather effective as a ceremonial duelling weapon in my opinion |
00:50.02 | Monet | ...perfect for Uriel then |
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00:50.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
00:50.34 | ALaggyPanda | something about those dots makes me think you have doubts |
00:50.35 | Monet | I imagine he would have used this durng his visit to the Fordan Empire. |
00:50.37 | ALaggyPanda | something wrong? |
00:51.05 | Monet | Nah, i'm just surprised how ideal i've made the design. |
00:52.50 | OluapPlayer | Hachi_: and dis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHanNE1IcSU and dis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mElcgzq2Nm8 |
00:53.35 | Hachi_ | Can't watch vids on this |
00:54.09 | OluapPlayer | dam |
00:54.21 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/UyXQm3I.gif have it in gif form then |
00:54.38 | Hachi_ | ohgodlol |
00:54.39 | Monet | Might not be so good for battle but then again Uriel's also a fair marksman |
00:55.19 | OluapPlayer | And I just noticed Artorias on that gif |
00:55.50 | Monet | One thing that I might have not shown in the Andromeda War or the Borealis War is that Uriel's still a modern fighter. He's not always the type to rush into battle with a sword glinting in the sunlight. |
00:56.13 | OluapPlayer | Norrigan - y da fuk not |
00:56.30 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/xuNxWOv.jpg Don't mess With Mushroom Man |
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00:56.50 | Hachi_ | That's Dragon God hur |
00:56.51 | Monet | Uriel - Coz I'll get shot to pieces before I get close |
00:57.14 | OluapPlayer | I came across some Mushroom Kids when I went to kill Sif |
00:57.16 | OluapPlayer | They're cute hur |
00:57.23 | ALaggyPanda | Monet: for a general combat sword I'd suggest more of your typical longsword, but ultimately the choice is up to you |
00:57.37 | ALaggyPanda | longswords tend to be better against armour and all |
00:57.51 | OluapPlayer | Give Uriel a zweihander hur |
00:58.02 | Monet | OluapPlayer: He already has one |
00:58.03 | ALaggyPanda | also, sad moment: I just realised Hel' can't use the hand-and-a-half grip ;-: |
00:58.08 | ALaggyPanda | ;-;* |
00:58.19 | OluapPlayer | when dis happen |
00:58.49 | Monet | Zewihander = 2-hander in German. |
00:59.05 | OluapPlayer | I'm talking about Dark Souls' zweihander |
00:59.12 | ALaggyPanda | Monet: it also refers to a specific set of designs for a two-handed swrod |
00:59.14 | ALaggyPanda | sword* |
00:59.21 | ALaggyPanda | almost everything in the european era was two handed |
00:59.52 | OluapPlayer | Then again something like a zweihander would look like a regular sword in the hands of something as big as a draconis |
01:00.21 | Monet | Draconis-scale Zweihander. Problem solved |
01:00.25 | OluapPlayer | hoh |
01:00.33 | OluapPlayer | He starts bashing people into the floor with it |
01:00.33 | OluapPlayer | raep |
01:00.48 | OluapPlayer | ALaggyPanda: This reminds me, how good are Taurus/Capra weapons? |
01:00.56 | OluapPlayer | I got them when I went to the Deemun Ruins |
01:00.58 | Monet | http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/364/9/f/german_zweihander_by_eblackmore-d362obd.jpg one kay aspect that I see in making a sword a Zewi: Those two prongs. |
01:01.15 | ALaggyPanda | prettymuch |
01:02.28 | ALaggyPanda | the ricasso and guard is one of the distinctive features of the blade |
01:02.35 | OluapPlayer | panda dam u |
01:02.46 | ALaggyPanda | OluapPlayer: Not very |
01:02.49 | Monet | Well if it helps, WoW Marcos walked around with a weapon like that. |
01:03.06 | Monet | So Koldenwelt Marcos would have the same weapon |
01:03.11 | OluapPlayer | baw |
01:03.26 | ALaggyPanda | Monet: If there is no hand-and-a-half grip involved I'm gonna b mad :3 |
01:03.32 | OluapPlayer | http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130722224825/darksouls/images/d/d8/Zweihander_IG.png he uses dis then |
01:03.36 | OluapPlayer | minus the girl |
01:05.42 | ALaggyPanda | actually I suppose the ricasso wouldn't have the thermic effect, so Hel' could in fact use the grip |
01:06.02 | ALaggyPanda | but no half-swording with regular longswords, which is sad |
01:06.42 | Monet | http://blog.8bitlibrary.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/destiny.jpg this is the sword WoW Marcos had |
01:07.06 | ALaggyPanda | sees sharpened ricasso |
01:07.07 | ALaggyPanda | NGH |
01:07.41 | ALaggyPanda | other than that it looks fine |
01:08.03 | ALaggyPanda | in fact, with a proper ricasso, it'd be more effective than the dark souls version |
01:08.33 | Monet | Brace yourself... http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080604111748/wowwiki/images/c/ca/Zweihander.jpg THIS is a vendor-level "Zweihander" in WoW. |
01:08.47 | OluapPlayer | Not big enough |
01:08.51 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/PJ6z7lG.jpg?1 how do you fuck up this badly |
01:08.51 | ALaggyPanda | not the worst thing ever, but not a zweihander |
01:09.12 | ALaggyPanda | OluapPlayer: This is not ordinary stupid. This is advanced stupid. |
01:09.41 | Monet | Wrong crossguard, no ricasso and the blade is too fat. |
01:11.28 | OluapPlayer | http://puu.sh/6O43Q.jpg |
01:12.28 | OluapPlayer | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/693/971/89a.jpg Obama you silly creature |
01:12.41 | ALaggyPanda | more like no crossguard, no ricasso and a really badly shaped blade |
01:13.20 | Monet | No surprise its a vendor weapon. |
01:13.31 | ALaggyPanda | I also can't see the weight being well distributed on that thing |
01:13.43 | ALaggyPanda | *gaming swords* |
01:13.45 | OluapPlayer | Hachi_: A bunch of Facepunchers helped playtest the newest Postal 2 update. As a thank you gift, the devs added photos of various Facepunchers into the game |
01:13.52 | OluapPlayer | Including postal's ass |
01:14.12 | Monet | In terms of quality, its the kind of equipment a fermer would by to desperately protect their crops. |
01:14.19 | Monet | farmer* |
01:14.44 | Monet | That more proper Zwei I linked is more worthy for adventurers. |
01:17.25 | ALaggyPanda | fun fact: flat faced hammers are primarily made of an element called dumtanium |
01:17.54 | ALaggyPanda | http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120305235242/elderscrolls/images/3/32/Daedricwarhammer.png This hammer is actually more dangerous swung the other way around |
01:17.58 | ALaggyPanda | as in point first |
01:18.24 | Monet | More inertia per square inch? |
01:18.39 | OluapPlayer | https://31.media.tumblr.com/87046c251cccca1284b7f738adc83e11/tumblr_n0of3jDd5O1qcgnxeo1_500.jpg |
01:18.55 | Monet | Is this the same logic of the morningstar over a club? |
01:19.16 | ALaggyPanda | yeah prettymuch |
01:19.30 | ALaggyPanda | same force, much smaller impact zone |
01:19.36 | ALaggyPanda | and with a spike you get good penetration |
01:19.54 | ALaggyPanda | 9/10 Hachi_ s recommend greater penetration |
01:20.06 | ALaggyPanda | OluapPlayer: Yes |
01:20.30 | Monet | Drawing up the Andromedan Highlords. |
01:20.52 | ALaggyPanda | http://www.wallpaperfo.com/thumbnails/detail/20130601/video%20games%20league%20of%20legends%20hammer%20armor%20artwork%20taric_www.wallpaperfo.com_1.jpg One example of a fantasy hammer more effective than it looks |
01:20.53 | Monet | I feel that in this current pic there's a bit of wing envy when comparing Tyraz and Uriel. |
01:21.04 | ALaggyPanda | that hammer shatters inside you, you're gonna feel it |
01:21.12 | Monet | Fucking OW |
01:21.17 | ALaggyPanda | Monet: I look forward to seeing it |
01:21.32 | Monet | Not entirely visible its just... |
01:21.55 | Monet | Uriel being a Draconis who can still fly, he has folded up giant wings. |
01:21.57 | ALaggyPanda | Monet: I meant the picture of the highlords |
01:22.04 | ALaggyPanda | not just the wing envy |
01:22.27 | Monet | Zazane if i recall have rather diminutive wings, only for show these days |
01:22.32 | ALaggyPanda | one scary thing about Taric though: one of his abilities involves shattering the gemstones on his armour, sending razor shards flying out in all directions |
01:22.45 | OluapPlayer | https://24.media.tumblr.com/06cea6d12583060a8dd09bb9af3b10cf/tumblr_n0laui6Lx01qzer4fo1_500.jpg <3 |
01:22.48 | ALaggyPanda | now imagine him slamming his hammer into you, and shattering the gems on the end |
01:23.06 | OluapPlayer | Hachi_: http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7694/j8wo.png |
01:23.47 | ALaggyPanda | so eah |
01:23.48 | Monet | I say wing envy because its pretty damn clear even at the sketch stage - and with Tyraz's wings open and Uriel's closed - who has a much greater wingspan. |
01:23.50 | ALaggyPanda | pain |
01:26.54 | ALaggyPanda | Monet: I wonder, if you ever have the time, do you think you could have a go at drawing Hel'? |
01:27.36 | OluapPlayer | http://tigerlilytoph.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/cat-king.jpg i am king |
01:27.45 | Monet | Sure. I'd love to! |
01:28.13 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/7MbjWtY.png what kind of slang is this |
01:28.32 | ALaggyPanda | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Hel%27Bre%27K_Ce%27So%27Va#Blademaster.E2.80.99s_Armoury This has a small novel written on what his armour looks like |
01:28.49 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Sadly, i have heard that term |
01:29.02 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of novels |
01:29.07 | OluapPlayer | git going with that Clothovera thing |
01:29.19 | ALaggyPanda | I will do that tonight when I have the spare time to |
01:29.36 | ALaggyPanda | haven't been able to the last few days, but I'll have time tonight |
01:30.32 | OluapPlayer | Now I came across this, apparently there's an animal shelter where children read books to cats |
01:30.40 | OluapPlayer | I'm literally choking in cute |
01:32.09 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/8ycedJx.png I read this in a thick russian accent |
01:33.23 | Monet | The old painting-wiith-peepers spy routine. |
01:33.49 | OluapPlayer | Hachi_: https://31.media.tumblr.com/e1c38c576696ca9544fc102519d4970a/tumblr_inline_n0lruxa3e21r91lvn.gif new Sonic |
01:37.07 | ALaggyPanda | Monet: Reading through my description of Hel's armour, I realised two things |
01:38.18 | ALaggyPanda | one, not a big enough bevor, and two, it was an alien snake that was the first opponent considered cowardly or shameful enough to get the Ce'So'Va treatment |
01:38.27 | ALaggyPanda | of all things, a snake |
01:38.35 | ALaggyPanda | that wasn't even planned |
01:39.07 | Monet | Eh? |
01:39.18 | ALaggyPanda | you know, snakes are normally associated with treachery and all |
01:39.41 | ALaggyPanda | and Ce'So'Va have a very particular way of dealing with enemies considered to be cowardly or dishonourable |
01:39.41 | Monet | Right right |
01:40.33 | Monet | Well goodnight. |
01:41.56 | OluapPlayer | https://24.media.tumblr.com/8be7468534d182692141c44fdcc708ca/tumblr_mzq2mk42Uc1r15p1go1_500.gif this kills the store |
01:42.24 | ALaggyPanda | surprising amount of force in that |
01:42.47 | ALaggyPanda | I think Hel's page is 50% describing his armour |
01:43.15 | OluapPlayer | A naked guy then parries and backstabs him then goes "Well what is it" |
01:43.50 | ALaggyPanda | Hel' gets back up and wrecks him |
01:44.01 | OluapPlayer | He ain't a Giantdad to do dat |
01:44.49 | ALaggyPanda | He taught the giantdads |
01:44.55 | ALaggyPanda | OnlyAfro is secretly Hel's apprentice |
01:45.00 | ALaggyPanda | anyway, brb |
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02:33.11 | DrodoEmpire | Hello, |
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02:44.39 | TekDroid | DrodoEmpire: I got stuck in a regency for a 3 yesr old heir in EUIV. D: |
02:44.45 | TekDroid | *year |
02:44.55 | DrodoEmpire | Ouch 3: |
02:45.37 | TekDroid | At least I get a decade to prepare for war. XD |
02:54.51 | Angrybirds | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Francs-tireurs_de_Karone_flag.png |
02:56.31 | PabloDePablo | Anyone have tips for a good creature page? I want the Tundrakle page the best it can be |
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02:57.54 | AdmiralPanda | hello all |
02:58.03 | Angrybirds | You could inspire yourself from this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human |
02:59.22 | AdmiralPanda | Angrybirds: I don't feel inspired, what are you talking about? |
02:59.49 | Angrybirds | [18:56] <PabloDePablo> Anyone have tips for a good creature page? I want the Tundrakle page the best it can be |
03:00.03 | Angrybirds | *bonks* |
03:02.59 | AdmiralPanda | I see |
03:28.40 | AdmiralPanda | oh by the way, PabloDePablo: I'm sort of the wiki's unofficial biology nut, so if you ever have questions relating to the way your creature may work on a biological level, hit me up. |
03:30.29 | PabloDePablo | Alright |
03:30.58 | PabloDePablo | My species is pretty simple in terms of a design aspect- I took inspiration from a lot of animals |
03:31.07 | PabloDePablo | Mainly walruses and larger primates |
03:34.59 | AdmiralPanda | always a good start |
03:35.07 | AdmiralPanda | leave me a PM if you're ever unsure about anything |
04:40.45 | DrodoEmpire | "Amazingly, at the dawn of the most mechanized war in history, men on horseback carrying these long sticks to poke the enemy with, were still considered the elite units in the armies of Britain and Germany." |
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04:45.19 | AdmiralPanda | Drodo: wut? |
04:45.32 | AdmiralPanda | I know you're talking about cav but wut |
04:51.05 | Angrybirds | AdmiralPanda : What did he say? |
04:51.20 | AdmiralPanda | [14:40] <DrodoEmpire> "Amazingly, at the dawn of the most mechanized war in history, men on horseback carrying these long sticks to poke the enemy with, were still considered the elite units in the armies of Britain and Germany." |
04:51.26 | AdmiralPanda | I was wondering what he was referencing |
04:51.48 | DrodoEmpire | A page refering to lancers' tactical usefulness during the first world war |
04:52.07 | AdmiralPanda | fair enough |
04:52.10 | DrodoEmpire | I should have mentioned. :P |
04:52.36 | AdmiralPanda | which reminds me, in addition to Clothovera's Furry Fantasia (don't ask) I should start writing the ANZR and ANZAC pages tonight |
04:53.28 | DrodoEmpire | Though reading the entire article, it was more of a awkward diatribe then anything else; It pretty much devolved (at several points) into shitting on the Isreali and Canadian Militaries and then abruptly back to the usual shitting on the lancers. :P |
04:55.35 | AdmiralPanda | lol |
04:56.11 | AdmiralPanda | I get the feeling the ANZAC military is going to be highly mobile, relying on small unit tactics wherever possible as opposed to mass operations |
04:56.23 | AdmiralPanda | and certainly avoiding getting stuck into a land war |
04:56.30 | AdmiralPanda | or trench war is more accurate |
04:56.38 | AdmiralPanda | no trenches, trenches are bad |
04:57.22 | Angrybirds | "which reminds me, in addition to Clothovera's Furry Fantasia (don't ask) I should start writing the ANZR and ANZAC pages tonight" - DO EEEEEEEEEEEEEET. |
04:57.40 | AdmiralPanda | I know, I haven't been able to use my computer much |
04:58.09 | AdmiralPanda | and before you say anything, I'm at work right now, can't write fiction |
04:59.46 | Angrybirds | Got it. The French relies a lot more on mechanized/armored maneuver warfare than anything else. |
05:00.28 | Angrybirds | Their tanks are on the light/fast end of the spectrum, even their MBT, the Ulysses, which sacrifices armor for mobility. |
05:01.24 | AdmiralPanda | We don't have the numbers to pull mass operations, so most of what we do is covert |
05:02.03 | AdmiralPanda | if we have to go face to face we'd rely on manoeuvre and positioning to make the most of any force multipliers we can get our hands on |
05:04.08 | Angrybirds | Before they developed the Ulysses and C-40 light tank to be used in conjunction, though, they were using the venerable C-39, a small and fast MBT. It wasn't quite a line tank, but it wasn't quite a light tank either. |
05:05.13 | Angrybirds | It's advantage was that it was fast enough to perform flanking attacks, and sturdy enough to act in the line of battle. |
05:05.23 | Angrybirds | But it wasn't great at both. |
05:05.50 | Angrybirds | Which is why the French then developed the C-40 and brought in the Roreinians to develop the ulysses. |
05:13.28 | AdmiralPanda | Most likely the Australians will have developed their own dedicated light tank, and outsourced for a line tank |
05:19.33 | Angrybirds | That makes sense. Once the C-40 goes on the market, we'll be competing. :P |
05:20.03 | Angrybirds | I'm debating whether or not I should have France's reservist infantry ride around in VAB armored transports or VLRA trucks. |
05:23.46 | AdmiralPanda | I'm not sure the Aussies would sell their scout tank, I think they'd want to keep it a trade secret |
05:25.33 | AdmiralPanda | also, I've decided that being able to drive across the bottom of the ocean is an intended feature of the F-22 LAV |
05:25.43 | AdmiralPanda | within certain depth ranges of course |
05:26.57 | Angrybirds | Alright. |
05:27.38 | AdmiralPanda | People guarding sealine - See nothing - Suddenly, AUSTRALIANS |
05:28.09 | Angrybirds | People guarding sealine - HAO |
05:29.15 | AdmiralPanda | Aussies - We in ur base, killin ur doods! |
05:29.44 | Angrybirds | People guarding sealine - THEY'RE KILLING US! THEY CAME FROM BEHI---... |
05:44.48 | dromlexer | 'ustralia mate. |
05:44.58 | AdmiralPanda | 'straya |
05:46.18 | WrkBrkJackal | 'raya |
05:47.45 | AdmiralPanda | no |
05:47.48 | AdmiralPanda | it's 'straya |
05:48.24 | dromlexer | k |
05:51.14 | dromlexer | Admiral, you been up all the night... merican eh? |
05:53.49 | AdmiralPanda | actually I'm Australian and it's mid afternoon ehre |
05:53.50 | AdmiralPanda | here* |
05:56.19 | dromlexer | aha |
05:58.39 | AdmiralPanda | hence why I know it's 'straya |
05:59.03 | AdmiralPanda | well, there should be a profanity on the end of that, but I'm not a bogan |
05:59.16 | dromlexer | heh |
05:59.19 | dromlexer | kangroo |
05:59.46 | AdmiralPanda | wow, much original |
05:59.51 | AdmiralPanda | oh god I used a doge meme |
05:59.59 | AdmiralPanda | shoots himself, then comes back as a white phantom |
06:00.01 | dromlexer | die |
06:00.13 | dromlexer | yonkel |
06:00.40 | AdmiralPanda | wtf is a yonkel? |
06:02.27 | dromlexer | Some mocking piece of a phrase. |
06:02.48 | AdmiralPanda | whatever it is, it didn't achieve what you wanted it to |
06:03.15 | dromlexer | probably not |
06:07.38 | Angrybirds | Thoughts on these regiments? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:France/French_Army#Types_of_Regiments |
06:15.39 | dromlexer | Well I have to go now. |
06:15.40 | dromlexer | Cya |
06:31.57 | Sleeperios | AdmiralPanda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpK9WAdNMUI&feature=youtube_gdata_player Is that guy an Aussie? |
06:32.07 | Sleeperios | His accent is kinda Aussie-ish |
06:33.36 | AdmiralPanda | not really, unless that's a distinct accent only adopted by asians living in Australia |
06:33.58 | AdmiralPanda | most asians I know around his age group talk like that or like that just with a deeper voice |
06:35.42 | Sleeperios | Hm |
06:36.20 | Sleeperios | So Asians in Australia have a distinct accent? |
06:47.34 | AdmiralPanda | that's how most asians I know talk, just with varying pitches |
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09:18.54 | AdmiralPanda | Hi |
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10:00.45 | AGamingPanda | hello |
10:04.33 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
10:19.24 | Liquid_Ink | http://24.media.tumblr.com/7537bf8b3525fb20411843579a68619f/tumblr_n0gwhxgevD1stseppo1_1280.jpg |
10:31.30 | AGamingPanda | I've seen that pic before |
10:34.44 | Liquid_Ink | Okay |
10:34.48 | Liquid_Ink | Isn't he adorable |
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11:22.02 | AGamingPanda | ugh that game of league was painful but also really fun |
11:22.13 | AGamingPanda | my teammates were so bad mannered, a couple of them were just bad |
11:22.32 | AGamingPanda | all in all that shouldn't have been fun, but I just went crazy and messed around, so it was ok |
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11:58.30 | AGamingPanda | hai ko |
12:01.37 | OluapWorker | hi |
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12:04.09 | Wormy | Hi |
12:04.28 | AGamingPanda | hi |
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12:13.03 | OluapWorker | hi |
12:13.19 | AGamingPanda | hiyah monet |
12:13.25 | Monet | Hi |
12:15.30 | Monet | I came up with an interesting idea for an explaination on how governments and coprorations are reacting to terrorism and media piracy respectively. |
12:15.50 | AGamingPanda | oh? |
12:16.14 | Monet | A teacher got shot at with a spitball, so he punishes the entire class by chaining their left hands to the edge of their desks and having them stay in class through lunch. |
12:16.58 | OluapWorker | Punishing the whole for a single person's actions is dum |
12:18.04 | AGamingPanda | but effective, if the whole can act on the one person's decision |
12:18.08 | AGamingPanda | the problem with the world is that we don't care |
12:18.33 | AGamingPanda | in a classroom, the rest of the class is going to find the person who shot the spitball and beat the living crap out of him, so he won't do it again |
12:18.53 | AGamingPanda | and nobody else will act up out of fear of the same happening to them |
12:18.58 | AGamingPanda | in the world, however, that just doesn't happen |
12:19.42 | Wormy | My whole class woud get introuble if the purpatrator didn't admit ty did it |
12:20.04 | AGamingPanda | same with mine |
12:20.27 | Monet | Maybe not the enitre world. |
12:21.08 | Monet | But take Islamic terrorism - i've seen reports that most muslims LOATHE America's treatment over them afer the actions of what, thirty extremists? |
12:22.04 | Wormy | Well, its the selfish we have to blame. This bin down the road from me was contantly knocked over by druns r fillked with house wste. So the council stopped fixing it |
12:22.19 | Monet | But the thing about all this is...its all an overreaction IMO. |
12:22.22 | Wormy | Drunks and |
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12:23.33 | Monet | The world's "most serious terrist attack", 2000+ people died yess but how did it affect America? One devestated city block and one damaged office. |
12:24.20 | Monet | Terrorists 'aint going to be destroying America anytime soon with a strategy like that. |
12:24.59 | Wormy | I think the community needs to take more action for itself. Like how in Benefit Street,ntye locals blocked off the road with rubbish the council refused to pick up |
12:26.04 | Monet | In regards to online piracy, it only takes one person to crack a copy and distribute it to somewhere like MegaUpload or ThePirateBay and within two months thousands of people have a pirated copy |
12:28.25 | Monet | Most "pirates" are Googlers. |
12:28.29 | Wormy | I think there was an over-reaction in terms of privacy invasion and fear mongering in regard to terrorism |
12:29.42 | Monet | Terrorism - as its name suggests - its purpose is to generate terror. And I don't know about you but all these increased airline restrictions and immigration policies along with the anti-terrorist outcry does hint people are scared. |
12:31.06 | Wormy | I think the policies of national security in regards to terrorism is so wide it can ge used and abused to frame peope as terrorists |
12:31.41 | Wormy | Or pass laws nobody would have accepted before... |
12:32.12 | Monet | I'd say that lobbyists cause more lasting damage to a country than terrorists, depending on what they're lobbying |
12:33.05 | Monet | And I suppose Panda's comment that in a class a misbehaving student would have the crap beaten up out of him afterwards still applies for Islamic terrorism. |
12:33.36 | AGamingPanda | except the rest of Islam isn't really actively shutting down the extremists |
12:33.45 | AGamingPanda | while they may not support it, they haven't really worked against it either |
12:36.06 | Monet | ALso I'd say the idea of "winning a war against terrorism" is like saying "we shall abolish the concept of rebellion" |
12:37.48 | Monet | ALso all these reports of car bombs in Iraq - I think its more an attempt for locals to say "go away Americans" than an actual desire to see the USA collapse. |
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12:45.05 | Monet | I suppose this is the issue of with most politicians being i ntheir 40s-70s |
12:47.08 | Monet | "old ways are best" and all. |
12:48.24 | Monet | As a psychologist, I don't like this. |
13:10.02 | Monet | Wormy: This looks lik a promising article http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/02/05/everquest-next-landmark-alpha-interview/ |
13:10.56 | Monet | EverQuest Next's devs have been talking to alpha testers like part of the team and not fans or paying customers |
13:11.44 | Monet | "And again, despite the rough shape of Landmark over the weekend, the official forums and Georgeson's Twitter feed have been populated with largely positive and supportive feedback—I even saw a player recommend that the dev team go to bed instead of getting the servers back up." |
13:12.54 | AGamingPanda | that seems like negative feedback to me |
13:13.03 | AGamingPanda | "go to sleep, we don't want the servers up" |
13:13.50 | Monet | I saw it as "go to bed, we can see form your twitter comments you're working hard" |
13:14.13 | Monet | "We cansee hwo hard you are working os we don't mind if you al ltake a break" |
13:15.11 | OluapWorker | http://www.destructoid.com/arkham-origins-progression-blocking-bugs-won-t-be-fixed-270256.phtml this is a cancer on gaming |
13:16.37 | Monet | The article suggests that EQN's dev teams are keeping alpha players up to date on what's going on in the office. |
13:17.44 | Monet | Reminds me of the time EvE's servers were temporarily disabled not too long ago - EveE's devs mentioned that the server shutdown was caused by snow getting into the server rooms. |
13:18.50 | Monet | The post was inundated with well-wishes from players in staff clearing out the snow and restarting the servers. |
13:20.57 | Monet | Compared to this post Oluap gave - no explaination why WB are putting priority on DLC over fixing the game. |
13:21.35 | Monet | So everyone assumes "WBs want more money" |
13:22.42 | OluapWorker | What else can you assume |
13:22.46 | OluapWorker | They're ignoring game-breaking glitches in favor of developing paid DLC |
13:23.25 | Monet | Makes me glad I didn't buy it |
13:23.45 | Monet | It sounds lkie there's been a real performance drop between City and Origins |
13:36.15 | AGamingPanda | Monet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Australia-New_Zealand_Republic#History Can you give me an opinion of this? |
13:39.46 | Wormy | Cool |
13:40.12 | Wormy | Lol the black claw is in suggested articles |
13:42.01 | Monet | IBest part is probably what happened to Austrailia in the 2010s-2050s |
13:42.33 | Monet | A very good example of the populace finally taking power away from the corrupt and selfish party-centric political scheme |
13:44.02 | Wormy | Speaking of successions. I'm wondering whether to write Scotland successfully splitting from the UK causing a chain of events that splits North and South Britain between the Fjord League and the European Union |
13:44.21 | Wormy | Later on |
13:46.21 | Wormy | Test |
13:46.48 | Monet | I watched the first episode of the new series of Top Gear |
13:48.23 | Monet | The climax still has me sore in the sides - a police chase against three 80s hot hatchbacks with the police side ringing out lifting electromagnets, toy police cars with dynamite, military power lifters, mine clearance vehicles and a tank. |
13:49.52 | Monet | Its like Saints Row 3/4 on television. |
13:50.45 | Wormy | Ll |
13:51.09 | Wormy | I liked the episode where they drove a train, and it caught fire |
13:52.45 | AGamingPanda | I liked the episode where they were driving a car that literally fell apart as they drove it |
13:55.05 | Monet | Spriggs: This thing? http://thumbsnap.com/s/Qg97Nrs7.jpg |
13:55.42 | AGamingPanda | I can't remember, they were talking about a particular manufacturer with a reputation for making cars like that |
13:56.19 | Monet | All thesevehicles in the police chase were sprayed with police ocloured with the acronym TGPD on the side |
13:56.25 | Monet | or in some cases, the crane |
13:58.36 | Monet | I get the impression the "XXPD" trope is an American phenomenon |
13:59.00 | Monet | Over here the shorthand for the London Metropolitan Police Force is "The Met" |
14:00.58 | AGamingPanda | we don't really say anything PD, we just say the police |
14:01.03 | AGamingPanda | anyway, I'm off for the night |
14:01.09 | Monet | Okay |
14:01.34 | Monet | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Police.car.1.arp.750pix.jpg ywah, looking at British or English police cars, they don't have any real distinguishment. |
14:02.13 | Monet | They might have the logo of the local police department, but the name of the department itself appears ot be kept to a minimum |
14:07.55 | Monet | Also I just found out something else about British and AMerican police cars |
14:08.30 | Monet | Britic police vehicles vary widely in company of origin - Volvo, BMW, Volkswagon, Fiat, Ford, etc. |
14:08.53 | Monet | In america, most police vehicles come from largely American companies. |
14:11.04 | Monet | I always wondered why Americans treated cars like a BMW as "exotic", especially since there is a BMW factory not too far from where I grew up. |
14:14.34 | Monet | Makes me wonder now the sorts of campanies that build buses in america |
14:14.56 | Monet | In SOuth England most buses appear to be the product of Mercedes-Benz |
14:31.19 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trentbarton Derbyshire buses |
14:33.21 | Wormy | Producd by optare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optare_Excel |
14:33.58 | Wormy | MB engine |
14:34.54 | Monet | I suppose Oxfordshire using Mercedes-Benz buses makes sense when there's a BMW factory not too far outside Oxford. |
14:35.10 | Monet | It used to make minis though, until BMW bought them out |
14:35.32 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_Solar The engine in this is a product of Scwnia |
14:35.52 | Wormy | Scania |
14:42.01 | Wormy | tt |
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14:45.17 | TekDroid | Hello |
14:45.32 | TekDroid | Field Trip day for me. :D |
14:48.49 | Monet | Wgere to? |
14:51.30 | Monet | Watching Top Gear s21 ep 2 |
14:51.38 | Monet | James May is at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan |
14:52.07 | TekDroid | We're preforming at a band festival today. |
14:52.27 | Monet | He claimed it's the size of Reading, from the footage we're seeing it looks lie an international airport. |
14:53.38 | TekDroid | Interesting |
14:53.38 | Monet | TekDroid: Oh cool! |
14:53.45 | Wormy | I read that as Tekdroid's field trip to Afganistan |
14:53.57 | TekDroid | Lol. XD |
14:54.09 | Wormy | Afghanistan |
14:54.57 | Monet | Watching TG is making me thinking of redesigning this http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120327204440/spore/images/e/ee/DraconisFAV-STF01.jpg |
14:58.15 | TekDroid | That's cool. Maybe a bit more... aerodynamic for the redesign? Somethimg just feels a bit off with the rounded body and cornered top. |
14:58.52 | Monet | Tha we back when I was still getting the hang of vehicle design. |
14:59.20 | Monet | DOmestic security using this is possible...if you're in a more remote part of a planet. |
14:59.28 | Monet | Otherwise they'd use skycars for patrol |
15:00.05 | TekDroid | Makes sense. |
15:00.31 | TekDroid | Ugh... it used to autospace after autocomplete but now it's not. |
15:03.10 | Monet | Although a rounded boy for a DI military vehicle. |
15:03.32 | Monet | When you compare that concept to their starships and tanks, blockiness seems ot be a bit of a thing |
15:04.40 | Wormy | AHAH, physics has inspired me to make a new superweapon |
15:04.51 | TekDroid | Oh? |
15:04.54 | Wormy | I love these moments |
15:05.36 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
15:05.50 | TekDroid | If we left you alone with physics long enough you'd figure out a way to destroy the entire universe. XD |
15:06.14 | Wormy | But it does involve black holes interacting with light |
15:06.33 | Wormy | Already have, a false vacuum |
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15:06.36 | Jepardi | Hi |
15:06.44 | Wormy | Hello |
15:07.58 | Monet | Here's something interesting. According to that segment with May in Camp Bastion, allies forces went in with stuff like this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Saudi_Arabian_Humvee.jpg |
15:08.19 | Monet | But are ocming out after using equipment li this http://www.adsadvance.co.uk/media/images/stories/AMOCCT-2012-074-103.jpg |
15:13.12 | Wormy | I'm going to be rolling out to great superweapons under the DCP's arsenal during teGigaquadrant conflict |
15:13.22 | Wormy | Two |
15:14.40 | Wormy | They will fight for the AI's side of the Civilisation and will view it as the best method of snuffing out competitors andestablishing order for their beloved allies |
15:15.18 | Wormy | The said weapons are intendd for strikig infrastructure |
15:15.57 | Wormy | We may see their use towards the end of the DCP-Vermulan war |
15:17.21 | Wormy | The DCP has gone thrugh a period of silence since the annihilation but now they will be buzzing with war after Mass Armegeddon, AtteronDominatus and the Vermulan invasion |
15:17.44 | Wormy | Afterall, unseen threats are everywhere |
15:18.06 | Wormy | And challenges totheir authrority |
15:18.20 | Wormy | authority |
15:18.21 | Monet | I wonder of the likelihood of a DI-DCP war |
15:19.49 | Wormy | I think the DCP feels more paranoid than ever |
15:20.03 | Monet | Both seek to bring order to the Milky way. |
15:20.20 | Monet | But at the same time, both are eager to snuff out competitors |
15:20.29 | Wormy | And they know they are now in direct competition |
15:22.23 | Monet | This could get unpleasant |
15:22.29 | Monet | really. Unpleasant |
15:22.31 | Wormy | The Hyperspace revolution in particular is not favourable for the DCP |
15:23.28 | Wormy | Aye |
15:24.00 | Wormy | I've always wondered if the DCP would end up at war with the DI |
15:24.37 | Wormy | The DCP would probably first try to convince the DI o join the Civilisation |
15:24.49 | Wormy | And AGC |
15:25.12 | Monet | I feel scared now. |
15:25.46 | Monet | Although the DI themselves have been launching improved ships. |
15:25.57 | Wormy | If Humanity really sides against the AI Netspace... ThevDCP may go to war with them too |
15:26.18 | Wormy | Though I can imagine humans on both sides too |
15:27.14 | Wormy | Though it would probably not be a war of extermination but assimilation |
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15:27.57 | Wormy | The DCP wants to bring back order to the universe in the best way they see fit = their way |
15:27.59 | monet_ | you said something just as I had a random browser crash |
15:28.31 | monet_ | These new DI ships - as opposed to ones built over a decade ago - boast equipment derived from Andromedan Grox, aggregate Andromedan, perhaps a bit of Asgard and Borealis Grox technology |
15:28.52 | monet_ | Like having a neutronium inner hull. |
15:29.06 | Wormy | I wish I could easily copy and paste posts but I can't, could someone-ele please? |
15:29.45 | Wormy | Just my three posts before monet rejoined |
15:30.17 | monet_ | I saw the word "assassination" or "asssimilation" or soemthing...and then I died |
15:30.49 | Wormy | Oh okay |
15:31.20 | Wormy | Though it would probably we a war of assimilation rather than extermination |
15:31.27 | monet_ | Ah right |
15:32.35 | monet_ | Such a war would be devastating for both sides and the surrounding galaxy. |
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15:34.26 | monet_ | SInce both sides can effectively weaponise hyperspace |
15:34.29 | Wormy | I had a scary thought myself |
15:35.22 | Wormy | If the DCP fights withbthe AI Netspace, they may end up fighting with Civ-Grox and Borg |
15:35.51 | Wormy | That could cause confusion in the DCP populace |
15:36.14 | Wormy | The Grox and their ways ar the DCP's most hated foe |
15:36.48 | Wormy | The DCP's own cultural goals will work against itelf |
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15:37.58 | Wormy | test |
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15:40.05 | monet_ | Why do I picture large swathes of the post-GC gigaquadrant being largely uninhabitable? |
15:40.12 | Angrybirds | Odere. |
15:40.42 | Wormy | I think great changes to the DCP's image and policy will be changed if it survives this world war |
15:40.43 | Angrybirds | Because gridfire? |
15:40.59 | Wormy | Most likely |
15:41.25 | Wormy | I see great zones f no man's land |
15:41.51 | Wormy | The universe is alrewady prety frazled by te annihilation only some years before |
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15:42.36 | dromlexer | Whoohoo, morgothbot is here |
15:43.52 | Wormy | I think post-GC gigaquadrat would be a great opportunity for the Deathmarch |
15:43.52 | Wormy | Hi |
15:43.52 | Wormy | And entirely new powers |
15:43.59 | TekDroid | I swear if the Xhodocto don't kill us we will. XD |
15:44.12 | Angrybirds | ^ |
15:44.13 | Wormy | To fill thge vacuum |
15:46.10 | TekDroid | We'll need some life-restoring Deus Ex Machina at some point. XD |
15:46.30 | Wormy | Of course, the role of the Xeran'bha and other secret forces will come into play, when it is too late |
15:46.47 | Angrybirds | jFrance - I'll be okay, doe? |
15:47.37 | Wormy | Not if they side against the AI Netspace |
15:48.42 | Angrybirds | Hm. I don't think it was every fully figured out what side of that war France was on. |
15:48.43 | TekDroid | We're going to need a precursor galactic seeder. XD |
15:48.47 | Wormy | I enjoyed the prosperity the gigaquadrant was experiencing |
15:49.14 | Wormy | A shame I enjoy destroyig it more :P |
15:49.33 | TekDroid | We'll be blowing up entire sectors in this war. XD |
15:50.06 | Angrybirds | Katar - fuuuu |
15:50.11 | Wormy | Any ideas how the Katar Sector will be involved with this? |
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15:51.13 | Tek0516Droid | Katar can't really do much. |
15:51.35 | Angrybirds | I'm not sure if there is any way they could get involved. Aside from the Drodo Empire, they'd just be hunkered down and hoping not to be one of the sectors being blown up. |
15:51.42 | Wormy | Maybe they have their own conflict? |
15:51.53 | Angrybirds | *looks at Tek* |
15:52.24 | Angrybirds | I think we've done enough wars in Katar for now. xD |
15:53.08 | Tek0516Droid | Katar is stalemated several years behind |
15:53.51 | Tek0516Droid | And any Katarian conflict ends up getting dragged along after the first half, then skipped past the later sections |
15:53.52 | Wormy | Perhaps they will be the ones to fill the vacuum |
15:54.10 | Tek0516Droid | A power vacuum? |
15:55.05 | Wormy | Yes |
15:55.29 | Tek0516Droid | The tech gap is huge though. |
15:55.42 | Tek0516Droid | cues AB's map |
15:55.48 | Tek0516Droid | *Angrybirds |
15:55.50 | Angrybirds | And size gap, though that would be cool. |
15:57.01 | Angrybirds | I might have exaggerated its smallness on the galactic map, though: http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130112195345/spore/images/e/e8/Katar_Milky_Way.png |
15:57.19 | Angrybirds | That's about the right size. |
15:57.50 | monet_ | http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/ee/DraconisFAV-STF01.jpg might want to hit refresh |
15:58.11 | Imperios_ | Purpleconis |
15:58.44 | monet_ | heheh |
16:00.46 | monet_ | How's the car? |
16:02.28 | Tek0516Droid | ~test |
16:02.29 | infobot | test is, like, not funny |
16:02.38 | Wormy | How have I not heard of this property? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-bit |
16:05.47 | Tek0516Droid | ~test |
16:05.47 | infobot | [test] not funny |
16:06.39 | Wormy | Infobot sounds more lik the woman she is saying like |
16:06.39 | infobot | okay, Wormy |
16:06.57 | Wormy | Infobot even agrees |
16:07.08 | Tek0516Droid | O.o |
16:07.23 | Tek0516Droid | ~infobot |
16:07.23 | infobot | infobot is, like, an IRC bot written in perl. Sources available on http://infobot.sourceforge.net/ |
16:07.47 | Wormy | si |
16:08.04 | TekDroid | Afk. |
16:12.53 | dromlexer | glad to see theres more users of DI |
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16:26.37 | OluapPlayer | muh afternoon off |
16:28.26 | Imperios_ | y u worker |
16:35.01 | Imperios_ | *no worker |
16:35.03 | Imperios_ | [[]] |
16:35.03 | morgothBotPy | Imperios_ meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/ |
16:38.20 | OluapPlayer | I said I got the afternoon off hur |
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16:38.55 | The_Randomness | Hello everyone |
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16:46.54 | OluapPlayer | monet_ Imperios_: can we do TND? |
16:47.20 | Imperios_ | Not yet, homework |
16:47.46 | monet_ | If Imperios is free later I'm quite happy to |
16:48.05 | OluapPlayer | fuk ur homework |
16:48.13 | dromlexer | I got homeworks. |
16:48.15 | dromlexer | So fuck them |
16:48.17 | dromlexer | eh |
16:48.28 | dromlexer | I still want to be a hobo on the space. |
16:50.01 | dromlexer | Well. Recently bought two early access games, the first CoH franchise. Downloading the new Steam version. |
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16:51.12 | Tek0516Droid | Hey |
16:51.18 | The_Randomness | Hello |
16:52.13 | dromlexer | hey |
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17:01.57 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:02.12 | The_Randomness | Hello |
17:02.45 | The_Randomness | I'll be back in a bit, time for class |
17:04.01 | Tek0516Droid | I'm stuck waiting for the next 3 hours until we perform |
17:04.43 | monet_ | dromlexer: CoH = City of Heroes? |
17:06.33 | monet_ | Oh crap wait nvm |
17:06.42 | monet_ | It's COmpany of Heroes - I had a derp |
17:06.59 | dromlexer | Derpzilla |
17:07.31 | monet_ | Should have known better because City of Heroes is, well...dead |
17:08.08 | dromlexer | Very dead. |
17:09.05 | dromlexer | NEO Scavenger and Void Destroyer are the Early access games I mentioned eariler. |
17:09.26 | monet_ | I remember I used to play City of Heroes |
17:12.09 | monet_ | Wait... Anyone rememebr I linked this the other day? http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/02/05/eve-online-to-celebrate-its-players-through-monument-listing-all-the-games-main-characters/ |
17:12.33 | dromlexer | Yes. |
17:12.43 | dromlexer | Eve is shithole anyway. |
17:12.46 | monet_ | ""This list of active, paying players will be captured on March 1st, 2014—no exceptions," writes CCP's co-founder Ívar Kristjánsson. "In addition, CCP will be honoring EVE Online players who have passed away by adding their names to the monument, as described in the following section." |
17:13.18 | monet_ | I have a playing subscription. |
17:13.23 | monet_ | paying* |
17:13.50 | dromlexer | Star Citizen seems promising, yet similar to EvE in my perspective. |
17:14.26 | TekDroid | I've played neither. |
17:14.46 | monet_ | ...my name could be on there... |
17:14.57 | monet_ | Or at the very least ,my account's name...I hope |
17:17.40 | dromlexer | I have only played EvE for like a day. I thought it would be different from it was before. Eh, guess who was wrong? |
17:19.39 | monet_ | Its a slow game. |
17:20.34 | dromlexer | And risking a long grind into an pile of ash in no time. |
17:21.12 | dromlexer | I have pretty heard alot of shit with massive loads of money involved. |
17:22.19 | dromlexer | And a friend of mine found a spray. |
17:22.21 | dromlexer | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=226615662 |
17:22.49 | monet_ | £111 for a ticket to EvE fanfest... |
17:22.59 | monet_ | I'd love to go to one sometime |
17:23.11 | dromlexer | A ship worth millions in real money? |
17:23.18 | dromlexer | pfft. |
17:23.35 | monet_ | I think you're exaggerating |
17:24.02 | monet_ | I think a titan - one of the most powerful ships in the game - is worth something like $9000 |
17:24.30 | monet_ | Or...maybe it was worth $3000 |
17:24.38 | monet_ | I forget |
17:24.43 | dromlexer | Hm. |
17:25.31 | dromlexer | Anyway, I heard a ship (Supercarrier) worth of billions in in-game currency were flushed in a toilet in no time. |
17:26.20 | dromlexer | Maybe not fast, but long time of grinding in a toliet. |
17:26.51 | monet_ | I think $1 = ~60,000 ISK |
17:26.58 | monet_ | 60 million, rather |
17:28.01 | monet_ | Eve's ingame currency - due to the ability to buy a special game time card both ingame and in real life - has intrinsic value |
17:28.23 | dromlexer | http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/eve-player-loses-revenant-supercarrier-worth-approx-8k-in-combat/ |
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17:28.42 | Technodroid | Heya |
17:28.48 | OluapPlayer | losa |
17:28.54 | monet_ | Hi |
17:29.03 | Technodroid | ya dad |
17:29.13 | Technodroid | okay, I've got a keyboard working on this thing |
17:29.24 | monet_ | dromlexer: I think I can explain what happened |
17:29.46 | dromlexer | Go ahead. I read that article a while ago. |
17:30.12 | monet_ | The guy who lost that ship lost an equivilent of $8,000. |
17:30.37 | monet_ | But that figure only exists because of the exhange rate created by the PLEX system |
17:31.27 | monet_ | So he lost 280-330 billion ISK, which equates to roughly $8000 |
17:32.11 | monet_ | But he didn't lose any real money himself, unless he was either buying PLEX in stores and selling the card ingame. |
17:32.25 | monet_ | And he was probably paying for subscription. |
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17:32.48 | monet_ | Hi |
17:32.59 | dromlexer | Hm, but it sounds really painful to lose something that you have grinded for long. |
17:33.12 | dromlexer | And, eh. |
17:33.13 | dromlexer | http://www.gamebreaker.tv/news/eve-online-battle-costing-300k-330k-in-damages-is-gamings-most-destructive-battle-ever/ |
17:33.39 | monet_ | that's not news to me. |
17:34.17 | monet_ | Eve is pretty merciless once you actually start going into the multiplayer element |
17:34.26 | Xho | ohai |
17:34.33 | Xho | How does a game cost real life money |
17:34.37 | Xho | I cannot grasp this concept |
17:34.52 | Technodroid | lol |
17:35.05 | OluapPlayer | spi |
17:36.12 | Xho | i |
17:36.14 | Technodroid | gotta go but guys |
17:36.19 | monet_ | Xho: [17:28] <monet_> Eve's ingame currency - due to the ability to buy a special game time card both ingame and in real life - has intrinsic value |
17:36.26 | Technodroid | BIG fiction ideas have been had, I'll see you all in an hour |
17:36.33 | Xho | Right I see |
17:36.37 | Technodroid | need feedback on previous fictions before I can get mine concrete |
17:36.40 | Technodroid | bye! |
17:36.44 | monet_ | In real life, these time cards are worth about £10. |
17:36.51 | dromlexer | monet_: heard of the cally incident? |
17:37.02 | Xho | I'd love to see a battle go on between multi-millionaires |
17:37.20 | OluapPlayer | They fight by throwing money at each other |
17:37.24 | monet_ | dromlexer_: ...not really |
17:37.33 | Xho | Everyone wins hur |
17:37.53 | OluapPlayer | I get reminded of this picture |
17:38.01 | OluapPlayer | Iron Man and Batman throwing money at each other |
17:38.08 | OluapPlayer | And Spiderman was between them taking the money |
17:38.48 | Xho | I wonder who's richer |
17:38.52 | Xho | Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark |
17:38.54 | monet_ | Embezzlement, fraud, espionage, assassination, piracy, insider trading, you cannot be banned for it in EvE so long as you're not doing it with actual money. |
17:39.10 | dromlexer | http://www.qj.net/mmorpg/news/biggest-scam-in-eve-online-history.html |
17:39.41 | OluapPlayer | Xho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NRik--cMJY |
17:39.46 | Xho | Wormy_ monet_ Ghelae: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/1901229_661552740558586_1013737885_n.jpg |
17:40.17 | monet_ | that is an entire picturefull of wrong |
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17:41.01 | Xho | OluapWorker: Tau - the Musical |
17:41.15 | Wormy_ | Ohgodlol |
17:41.42 | OluapPlayer | hur |
17:41.51 | OluapPlayer | I'm not worker this afternoon |
17:42.29 | monet_ | I remember one EvE player told me that its a game for over-18s - that is you need to be that old to handle what goes on in that game. |
17:42.35 | Xho | y u not worker |
17:42.37 | OluapPlayer | Also needs Ice Age rp todya hur |
17:42.38 | Xho | wat is dis shi |
17:42.41 | OluapPlayer | today even |
17:42.54 | monet_ | Anyone younger may throw a temper-tantrum when shit like this happens |
17:44.12 | Xho | y u off work |
17:44.17 | OluapPlayer | cause i could |
17:44.21 | OluapPlayer | we rp nao |
17:44.22 | Xho | y |
17:44.33 | Xho | fien |
17:44.50 | OluapPlayer | Aspirant - we're out of cheese Santorakh - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INKjmujC9dc |
17:45.06 | Xho | olol |
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18:04.17 | dromlexer | Seeing Xho's long dictionary. I decided to shorten my page with a tabber. |
18:04.18 | dromlexer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Aemonkian/Aaillikan_Language/Dictionary |
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18:06.38 | monet_ | Did you ask him? |
18:06.58 | dromlexer | Ask for what? |
18:07.04 | *** join/#sporewiki Cyrannian (4e125e74@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.18.94.116) |
18:07.04 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Cyrannian] by ChanServ |
18:07.09 | dromlexer | If you are telling for about the page I linkted. |
18:07.11 | dromlexer | It's mine. |
18:07.13 | Cyrannian | Hello. |
18:07.23 | OluapPlayer | throws Cyrannian against a wall |
18:07.27 | dromlexer | Xho's is "Kicathan" |
18:07.37 | Cyrannian | throws a wall against OluapPlayer |
18:07.44 | monet_ | Whoops! |
18:07.45 | OluapPlayer | nuuuh |
18:07.49 | Xho | Jesus what |
18:07.53 | Cyrannian | y u no OluapWorker |
18:07.55 | monet_ | I derped again, brain's not in properly |
18:07.58 | dromlexer | *drops a floor on both Oluapplayer and Cyrannian* |
18:08.00 | OluapPlayer | cus afternoon out |
18:08.01 | Xho | See I asked the exact same question |
18:08.14 | Xho | And I still have no explanation |
18:08.22 | Xho | y u no explain u unworking dum |
18:08.31 | dromlexer | D for dum |
18:08.35 | monet_ | He said he has the afternoon off |
18:08.39 | Xho | I mean why |
18:08.46 | dromlexer | monet_: are you french? |
18:08.56 | OluapPlayer | get back to the rp dangit |
18:08.58 | monet_ | dromlexer: English. |
18:09.12 | dromlexer | Too much tea can damage your brain. |
18:11.10 | dromlexer | According to a Irish-American-French study. |
18:11.27 | Xho | THEIR BRAINS AREN'T DEVELOPED ENOUGH FOR THE GLORY OF TEA |
18:11.39 | Xho | Sorry Cyrannian |
18:12.21 | Cyrannian | You are considered a crazy mo-fo if you don't like tea in Ireland. |
18:12.23 | dromlexer | Swedish kings fought in the battlefield, while the English kings stood at the rear line and watched. |
18:12.35 | Xho | Never heard of that one before |
18:12.42 | Xho | I thought it was not liking alcohol hur |
18:12.54 | Cyrannian | That too |
18:12.58 | Xho | General British stereotyping there |
18:13.15 | dromlexer | Cyrannian, probably because they put whiskey instead of tea in their cups. |
18:13.15 | Cyrannian | Ms. Doyle from Father Ted spoofs our love of tea. |
18:13.54 | Cyrannian | Granted, I don't like tea or alcohol :P |
18:14.05 | Xho | No wonder you're a raptor |
18:14.10 | Xho | Or waptor |
18:14.12 | Xho | Rhatever |
18:14.20 | dromlexer | I hate tea, and coffee. |
18:14.27 | dromlexer | Coffee tastes like tea. |
18:14.33 | dromlexer | And that's why I hate it too. |
18:14.46 | Xho | I like whisky |
18:14.47 | Xho | There I said it |
18:14.53 | dromlexer | vodka |
18:15.19 | Cyrannian | I get headaches if I don't drink coffee so I'm pretty sure I should seek help. |
18:15.21 | dromlexer | Absolut Vodka |
18:16.09 | dromlexer | I come from a server in Lithuania. |
18:16.12 | Monet | You're all making me want a cuppa |
18:16.18 | dromlexer | According to a WHOIS. |
18:16.57 | dromlexer | Xho and Monet both from a server with the code, DE. |
18:17.09 | Monet | That's Germany I think |
18:17.29 | Cyrannian | Same here |
18:17.31 | dromlexer | Everyone execpt me is signed in via a german server. |
18:17.52 | Xho | Because our IRC server is authorised by DAS KAPITAL |
18:18.52 | Angrybirds | test |
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18:22.59 | Cyrannian | Hi |
18:25.24 | dromlexer | Whoohoo. The CoH finished downloading. Let's install Biltzkrieg and Trainer mods. |
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18:29.53 | The_Randomness | Hello everyone |
18:32.20 | Cyrannian | Hello! |
18:34.42 | The_Randomness | I'll be back in a bit |
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18:36.08 | Wormy | Hi |
18:40.09 | Xho | Chickeny chickeny chicken |
18:40.14 | Wormy | Demon gridfire, sci-gridfire, nicoll-dyson lasers, hyperspace star detonations, altered-constant bubbles, wormhole-black hole brain AI's.... Sporewikiverse is a dangerous place |
18:40.40 | Xho | Don't forget Gorf |
18:40.50 | Wormy | Lol |
18:41.06 | Wormy | Gorf and his magic stick |
18:41.07 | dromlexer | Gorf is happiest Grox ever. |
18:41.36 | Xho | Gorf isn't a Grox hur |
18:43.58 | dromlexer | ikr, just joked as he's very similar to the grox in physical appearance |
18:44.15 | Xho | Aye |
18:44.46 | Imperios | CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP |
18:45.16 | Xho | WHY WHY WHY WHY |
18:45.44 | Imperios | I pointed to the "Purity of the Russian Race" VK group that they spelt "Race" group |
18:45.54 | Wormy | I still think we shoulr have a North Korean fiction which just mastered the atom bomb, while the rest of humanity chucks around antimatter and hypermatter bombs |
18:45.59 | Imperios | And now they seem to be visiting my user page |
18:46.03 | Imperios | In VK |
18:46.22 | Cyrannian | What's VK? |
18:46.30 | Imperios | Russian Facebook |
18:46.58 | Imperios | Call me paranoid, but that kind of attention I definitely do not want |
18:47.10 | Imperios | These goddamn Neo-Nazis are dangerous |
18:47.28 | Imperios | *that they spelt "Race" wronf |
18:47.32 | Wormy | Why talk to them? |
18:47.33 | Imperios | wronf |
18:47.35 | Imperios | wrong |
18:47.54 | Imperios | Wormy: I stumbled at their group and saw that they spelt "race" wrong |
18:48.09 | Imperios | I couldn't stop myself hur |
18:49.19 | Wormy | Loo |
18:49.23 | Wormy | Lol |
18:49.44 | Wormy | Well I got into an argument with a load of fox hunters on facebook |
18:50.29 | Wormy | It escalated tothe pub being boycotted by animal rights groups |
18:50.43 | Wormy | Since it caused a storm of arguments |
18:52.14 | Wormy | test |
18:52.56 | Monet | Wow |
18:53.45 | Wormy | Monet I captured screenshots of the argument, I might upload to show you |
18:54.00 | Wormy | Not today I'm on my tab |
18:54.52 | Imperios | Hm come to think about it |
18:55.45 | Imperios | The guys I met seem to make fun of Neo-Nazis actually so MAYBE it is not that bad |
18:55.48 | Imperios | Just |
18:55.53 | Ghel | Hello. |
18:56.06 | Imperios | Forget that I ever said a thing about that incident |
18:56.20 | Wormy | Hi |
18:56.33 | Monet | Most of the internet arguments I get into are against fundies, anti-communists or American supremacists. |
18:59.24 | Monet | So in short for some odd reason I keep arguing with "i'm right you're wrong" types |
19:00.25 | OluapPlayer | ew, arguing on the internet |
19:00.27 | Ghel | Is that because you're this kind of person? http://xkcd.com/386/ |
19:01.23 | Monet | Maybe I dunno. |
19:01.41 | Monet | One guy recently was complaining about how universal healthcare isn't the answer. |
19:01.46 | Wormy | I get into those arguments with creationists |
19:01.58 | OluapPlayer | You're wasting your time |
19:02.32 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: You done with your homework yet |
19:02.42 | Monet | Due to the recent US Affordable Care Act driving doctors to work overseas because as he put it, "performing medical work for free in the US risks you your medical lisence" |
19:02.42 | Wormy | Of course geology is a gooid line of attack, but also my knowledge of epimestology and falsification |
19:03.23 | Ghel | Geology is the very reason that young-earth creationism was completely abandoned by the scientific community. |
19:03.25 | Wormy | The internet should be a medium of not only creativity but criticism and debate |
19:04.06 | Monet | Its kinda surprising how many Americans vocallyprotest against socialist healthcare, yet many americans *don't have* medical insurance. |
19:06.21 | Wormy | I feel like making arguments with fear mongerers taking advantage of the Fukushima nuclear plant disaster in the US |
19:06.37 | Monet | This guy's logic was -> ACA is socialist medicine -> ACA's clampdown drives out doctors who work for free -> Therefore socialist medicine is bad |
19:06.41 | Imperios | Monet: Racists and homophobes, for me |
19:06.56 | Wormy | Making silly claims that Calinfornia's beaches are a radioactive wasteland |
19:07.30 | Monet | I remember there was media sensation that radioactive material from Fukoshima had somehow gotten into the Thames. |
19:07.37 | Imperios | Especially the latter |
19:07.51 | Imperios | Sacrebleu |
19:08.16 | Wormy | And laiming they are victims. I think they should meet real victims of nuclear disasters, like the people of Chernobyl |
19:08.18 | Cyrannian | I don't see the point in arguing with people over YouTube, it's not like these arguments end with both parties accepting the other's point and moving on. |
19:08.35 | Imperios | I seriously question if the human species deserves the moniker "sapiens" |
19:09.14 | Imperios | Homophobes are especially stupud |
19:09.23 | Monet | If the radiation from Fukoshima cannot get as far as the USA and still be hazardous, how does it affect the Thames in London? |
19:09.32 | Wormy | Of course we deserve it Imprios, because we have the ability of debate |
19:09.44 | OluapPlayer | ~kick Imperios |
19:09.44 | infobot | ACTION kicks Imperios |
19:09.45 | OluapPlayer | bah |
19:09.50 | Imperios | One of them really claimed that all homosexual art the Greeks produced is fake and a product of gay conspiracies |
19:10.05 | Imperios | *the Ancient Greeks |
19:10.14 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Almost |
19:11.17 | Wormy | I think its a sign the education system needs improving, as well as people's attitudes to it |
19:11.26 | Imperios | Definitely |
19:11.57 | Monet | It is a bit of a shame that the kind of people who make up stupid stuff like this are more likely to believe mass media sensationalism than other people. |
19:11.59 | Imperios | Though it's the teachers that need to change their educational strategies in my opinion |
19:12.54 | Imperios | BTW I have a question guys |
19:12.58 | Wormy | Western society in particular values debate, and so shuld be more prevalent, the internet is a god place for it |
19:13.18 | Wormy | good |
19:13.41 | Imperios | Wormy: Trust me, the Orthodox civilisation debates just as much |
19:13.47 | Imperios | Eurasian |
19:13.51 | Imperios | <PROTECTED> |
19:14.01 | Wormy | Good |
19:14.21 | Imperios | Not sure about East Asia |
19:14.29 | Imperios | Let's ask LawfulInsane |
19:14.32 | Wormy | Though I think scientific literature and databases should be more accessible |
19:15.42 | Wormy | A lot on online scientific libraries are either inaccessibe or not very modern or linked well |
19:15.49 | Imperios | Seriously, it's the XXI century and I still see people shouting that we need to burn gays in ovens |
19:16.06 | Jepardi | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ultimate_game.png |
19:16.38 | Wormy | It seems regressive memes like that are well rooted still |
19:16.59 | dromlexer | Imperios, get all your vodka and flee to North Korea, IMMEDIATELY. |
19:17.29 | dromlexer | brb playing biltz on coh. |
19:18.19 | Monet | I just find it annoying when people somehow unknowingly contradict themselves. |
19:18.34 | Monet | Or don't get the full picture |
19:19.14 | Imperios | Or just use some form of doublethink |
19:19.39 | dromlexer | Oh nice, those background sounds at main menu |
19:19.41 | Monet | Like the guy i mentioned above. |
19:19.41 | dromlexer | I like them. |
19:19.46 | dromlexer | Distant gunshots |
19:20.41 | Imperios | Monet: BTW about that homophobe dude |
19:21.09 | Imperios | When he said gays should be burned, I asked him if he would burn Oscar Wilde or Alan Turing too |
19:21.14 | Imperios | ...He said yes. |
19:22.02 | Ghel | Do people like him claim to have any kind of logical reasoning behind their hatred, or do they just hold things like "gays should be burned" as basic values? |
19:22.27 | Monet | He was adamant the idea of socialised medicine was a failed concept, and told me there were doctors emigrating from the US to the Third World to practice without "all the red tape" because the US Affordable Care Act was apparently clamping down on doctors who weren't asking for payment when they should have. |
19:23.12 | Imperios | Ghel: He called them a "virus" and a "plague". That's it. |
19:23.44 | Imperios | The more intelligent of their kind have some arguments for their hatred though |
19:23.47 | Monet | I don't know how big the margin is but medical bills in the United States are a serious issue, partly because of the premiums and partly because there are millions of US citizens who aren't insured. |
19:23.58 | Imperios | Like |
19:24.08 | Monet | no insurance = no cushion from those big medical bills. |
19:24.17 | Wormy | Easdily refutable though |
19:24.50 | Imperios | "Gays have high suicide rates, most of pedophiles are gay, 20% gays have >500 sexual partners" et cetera |
19:25.01 | Wormy | I find this sort f relevant http://www.edge.org/documents/whatnow/whatnow_deutsch.html |
19:26.05 | Ghel | Monet: Did that guy have anything to back up his claims about emigrating doctors, even anecdotal? Not that I hold much faith in him admitting he was wrong if you could refute it, but I think that would be the first area to try to tackle. |
19:26.57 | Ghel | Imperios: Seems to me like traditional irrational dehumanisation. Even in the more reasoned cases; so what if they're more likely to kill themselves, for example? |
19:27.16 | Monet | Ghel: He told me about his sister who fell ill. He told me she could have gotten free treatment from a doctor her family knew had he not emigrated to escape the US medial board. |
19:27.47 | Monet | All because under the ACA, his medical lisence was in danger of being revoked for unpaid practice |
19:28.04 | Ghel | Ah. So it does seem that there are some facts behind that argument. |
19:28.32 | Ghel | Although the emotional component would likely make a detailed, reasoned discussion quite difficult. |
19:29.16 | Monet | thing is, the ACA isn't quite universal healthcare |
19:29.22 | Imperios | Then again... my parents too can be racist/homophobic at times |
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19:29.37 | Monet | its job is to make health insurance premiums more affordable |
19:30.06 | Ghel | More to the point, the relevant issue is whether the specific part of the ACA that is at issue is necessarily tied to the overall aims of the program. |
19:30.23 | Ghel | Getting people to pay their bills does seem important, though. |
19:31.10 | Ghel | Of course, in socialist healthcare, there aren't so many bills to pay. |
19:31.20 | Monet | He went on to point out that while he knows the UK has a state-funded healthcare system, statistically he prefers the US system because of statistics |
19:32.08 | Wormy | Thing I'd like to tell him is that if you wantedbetter healthcare atleast here you can choose to go private |
19:32.09 | Ghel | Which statistics were these? |
19:32.14 | Imperios | <PROTECTED> |
19:32.31 | Monet | Primarily the likelihood of survival under or after clinical care. |
19:33.30 | Wormy | test |
19:33.37 | Monet | Personally, I'd rather die after being treated in hispital than live owing the doctors £10000 to save my life. |
19:34.33 | Imperios | જિછોથંફેડેઝંણૉફ્ |
19:34.35 | Ghel | It still needs to be proved that those statistics are significantly due to British healthcare being socialist, although I understand why one might assume that they are. |
19:35.47 | Imperios | مبكرمينروسمقجﻻوثماخصطبمصحامصمبنسحرمصجؤمصةضحينصمب بحيةثوبحصمسكوبمصجصدلوثتبخ طشجيخصافنصحبةث مسمؤهصمضمنبة صكسميتصةبكرمضكؤمسن |
19:35.48 | Monet | Bio and I went on to provide hi ma few statistics. |
19:35.49 | Wormy | The guy couldn'trealy back up his arguments, instead making vague claims |
19:36.04 | Wormy | Wat u doin Imperios |
19:36.23 | Monet | Namely stats on the quality of healthcare in other countries with universal healthcare like Switzerland. |
19:36.27 | Imperios | Trying to see how alphabets look like when written |
19:36.40 | Imperios | I want to design the Radeon script |
19:36.59 | Xho | Well |
19:37.24 | Imperios | પૃઢિઝૌમી This alphabet in particular looks pretty |
19:37.37 | Imperios | Well it's an abugida but hey still |
19:37.51 | Xho | Well |
19:37.56 | Xho | Be nice to Gujarati |
19:37.59 | Wormy | I watched a doc on Mayan script today, the way it works is awesome |
19:38.19 | Monet | Despite the US being quite low on the league tables for developed nations, he was still convinced the US system was more effective. "it's a matter of red tape vs doing what you halft to do to save a persons life" he said |
19:38.52 | Wormy | The Mayans ike to surprise, so they used several pictures to represent a spoken word. |
19:39.01 | Imperios | Xho: The final version of the Radeon abugida will be similar to Ge'ez |
19:39.16 | Imperios | Aka the Ethiopean script |
19:39.24 | Imperios | It has that "holy" feel to it |
19:39.28 | Imperios | Ethiopean |
19:39.32 | Imperios | ...Rasta Radeons |
19:39.52 | Wormy | And pictures could have several sequences, to be more creative (like a hand with several different finger positions) |
19:40.02 | Imperios | Wormy: A bit like a rebus? |
19:40.15 | Wormy | Never heard of rebus |
19:40.37 | Imperios | http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebus |
19:40.51 | Imperios | These things are fairly common in Russia |
19:41.37 | Monet | The US is perhaps the last country in the developed world to have for-profit medical care, and yet Americans are still some of the unhealthiest people on such records. |
19:41.49 | Wormy | They were thought to be pictograms but they were proven to be more like an alphabet |
19:42.05 | Monet | Granted its a combination of healthcare and quiality of life. |
19:43.20 | Imperios | Monet: You know what I hate? Russia adopting private healthcare traditions from the USA |
19:43.49 | Wormy | Its phonetic, being a loggosyllabc with some syllabograms - I have no ideawhat that means except they weren't mere pictograms |
19:43.50 | Imperios | Why couldn't we just keep the old Soviet healthcare system and improve it? |
19:44.00 | Imperios | It was good as it waa |
19:44.04 | Wormy | A russian guy proved it in fact |
19:44.17 | Imperios | Is gud |
19:44.35 | Monet | The only reason I can find for the Americans not wanting a largely-free healthcare system is because it's socialist, therefore (in the minds of many Americans) evil. |
19:45.21 | Monet | The atrocities commited by Josef Stalin. That's it really |
19:45.36 | Ghel | That's probably the reason for a lot of them feeling that way about socialism. |
19:45.42 | Imperios | Stalin wasn't a socialist, he was a... Stalinist |
19:46.04 | Monet | Imperios: A lot of americans think Stalinism, COmmunism and Socialism are the exact same thing. |
19:46.10 | Wormy | The jump of simpler language to universality is interesting, though not necessarily invented for that purpose |
19:46.30 | Imperios | One more thing I hate: the modern Russian population trying to redeem Stalin |
19:46.41 | Monet | And some think Communism and Facism are exactly the same. |
19:46.49 | Imperios | Or vilifying him to the point of making him worse than Stalin |
19:46.55 | Wormy | Ad that means an alphabet which contains the set of all possible words |
19:47.01 | Imperios | *that Hitler |
19:47.18 | Imperios | Wormy: Come to think about it |
19:47.25 | Wormy | without needfing to invent new rules |
19:47.47 | Imperios | Non-hieroglyphic alphabets probably evolved when many different languages contacted |
19:47.50 | Monet | Americans became so bloody paranoid of the USSR that they consider *everything remotely connected to it* as bad. |
19:48.21 | Wormy | Perhaps |
19:48.28 | Monet | So now I get this image that the UFP is actually an impossible concept for America to achieve. |
19:48.45 | Imperios | Like, the Phoenicians were traders and they were surrounded by different languages both Afrasian, Indoeuropean, and other |
19:48.50 | Wormy | I'm out of my depth |
19:49.18 | Imperios | Ever wondered why the Jews and the Arabs don't have independent words for vowels? |
19:49.35 | Imperios | It's because different vowels work as suffixes in their languages |
19:49.36 | Wormy | It might hav been that language which began the root to universality, can't remember now though |
19:49.47 | Wormy | road |
19:49.48 | Imperios | Like |
19:49.56 | Imperios | SaLaM is "peace" |
19:50.04 | Cyrannian | I'm sure it's only a small portion of the population. From my own experience, the American students in my class at uni are highly intelligent, polite and very well versed in different political ideologies. |
19:50.15 | Imperios | iSLaM is "surrendering to peace" |
19:50.36 | Imperios | muSLiM is "one who is at peace" etx |
19:50.53 | Monet | Cyrannian: I'm conflicted, i've been told by other Americans its a widespread opinion. |
19:51.21 | Imperios | Cyrannian: These guys are the elite, so to speaj |
19:51.25 | Monet | Having kids reciting the pledge of alliegence every morning probably doesn't help. |
19:51.39 | Imperios | The more educated portion of America's population |
19:51.42 | Cyrannian | I always pictured those types of opinions to be more prevalent in the "bible belt" |
19:52.04 | Xho | Good ol' size 58 bible belt |
19:52.06 | Imperios | True, the USA are large |
19:52.14 | Wormy | We can expect variations of opinion between nations. What matters s that society remains open to other cultures, tolerant, maintains self-criticism and debate |
19:52.43 | Ghel | How widespread people perceive it to be will be based on their location in the country (some places are more conservative or liberal than others), their age (older generations are often more conservative or reactionary, for example; younger people are more likely to be pro-socialist), and their own personal biases. |
19:53.03 | Imperios | I myself am a socialidt |
19:53.07 | Imperios | Swedish-model |
19:53.45 | Ghel | My economic ideology is post-scarcity. Anything else is an unfortunate temporary measure. :P |
19:54.16 | Wormy | So is mine ol |
19:54.33 | Imperios | So, communist hur |
19:55.00 | Imperios | Cyrannian: Any Russian students in your uni? |
19:55.27 | Cyrannian | There are none in my classes, but I'm not sure about the rest of the uni. |
19:55.38 | Ghel | Communism and post-scarcity only really resemble each other in the sense that they aren't supposed to require money. |
19:55.50 | Wormy | There's loads of Japanese students at Leicester |
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19:56.34 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
19:56.37 | Ghel | Hello. |
19:56.51 | Imperios | When I recieve some basic higher education at home, I'll probably study off country |
19:56.52 | Wormy | Hi |
19:56.54 | Imperios | Maybe in the UK |
19:57.05 | Imperios | <PROTECTED> |
19:57.14 | Wormy | Meh |
19:57.28 | Monet | Cyrannian: This opinion on communism is widespread enough in the US that its almost impossible to run for government *and* be a proud socialist or communist. |
19:57.43 | Imperios | Who knows, I could meet a girlfriend there too hur |
19:57.49 | Wormy | You and a scottish student shpuld have a whiskey vs vodka battle |
19:57.58 | Imperios | Hur |
19:58.15 | Wormy | Stereotype.jpg |
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19:58.32 | Imperios | Wormy: BRW |
19:58.34 | Imperios | BTE |
19:58.50 | Cyrannian | That's certainly true. Though I'd say that is mostly due to the very powerful lobbies of powerful individuals and groups. |
19:58.52 | Imperios | You know what is Russian for "water"? |
19:59.02 | Imperios | voda |
19:59.02 | Wormy | My uncle workd with a scottish teacher in Russia who was actually sacvked for being too drunk |
19:59.37 | Wormy | test |
19:59.41 | Imperios | Yes, our words for "vodka" and "water" are ALMOST IDENTICAL. |
19:59.57 | Ghel | Doesn't "vodka" come from "voda"? |
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20:00.21 | Imperios | <PROTECTED> |
20:02.56 | Monet | It feels ironic now: America is deeply in love with Star Trek (one town in Iowa avertises itself as the future birthplace of James T. Kirk), yet the way the people in power think the United Federation of Planets feels like something they might never end up creating. |
20:03.30 | Monet | Free healthcare, no capital, state-supported science committess, alien presidents. |
20:04.08 | Wormy | Is there a technical name in genetics for someone several generations down thge line to look like an ancestor? |
20:04.10 | Monet | And I feel almos certain the UFP has several atheist presidents. |
20:04.46 | Ghel | Monet: It's only been a couple of decades since the end of the Cold War. And Americans are humans, after all. Give it a few decades more and things might start to change. |
20:04.57 | Ghel | Wormy: I think it's called "coincidence". :P |
20:05.20 | Wormy | It seems my appearence existed.... Before. |
20:05.23 | Ghel | Or "family resemblance". It depends on how many generations we're talking about. |
20:05.31 | Monet | The rest of the world is probably thinking "give it a rest already" |
20:05.48 | Wormy | I'm a spitting image of my Great Great Grandfather |
20:06.04 | Wormy | Though I lack a top hat |
20:06.13 | Imperios | My Great Grandfather had blue eyes |
20:06.17 | Imperios | That is weird |
20:07.01 | Wormy | My beard mst be approaching turn of the 20th century levels too |
20:07.21 | Ghel | Bear in mind that 19th-century photos of Keenu Reaves and Nicolas Cage lookalikes have been discovered; I don't think it's too implausible that someone a century or so ago had your appearance too. |
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20:07.56 | TekDroid | Hey |
20:08.03 | Ghel | Hello. |
20:08.13 | TekDroid | Or... gtg |
20:08.24 | Ghel | Wormy: Even if you do only have 6.25% of his DNA. |
20:09.40 | Wormy | I heard genes can manifest like that however, and cause strog traits later on |
20:09.46 | Monet | Ghelae: Its just...its been almost 250 years since the end of the Revolutionary War and there are still several places that paint the British like they were the only ones at fault. |
20:10.36 | Imperios | Evil Brit accent |
20:11.10 | Monet | Despite the fact America never declared itself a proper country until after the Siege of Boston and the only "true" Americans only came of age 16 years after the former. |
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20:12.25 | Ghel | Sounds like nationalist historical revisionism/denialism to me. If they're not claiming that drinking tea is tantamount to colonialist oppression, it's not quites bad. |
20:12.33 | Ghel | quite as bad* |
20:12.37 | Wormy | It's often blamed on the British taxes, but that is untrue, America was one of our least taxed colonies. I think the revolutionaries thought they could increase their own. Might be wrong |
20:12.57 | Wormy | If they split |
20:13.09 | Monet | It was either British Taxation or not getting a rep in parliamant |
20:13.54 | Ghel | "No taxation without representation" is a famous motto. It might not have been that the taxes were intrinsically unfair, just that they were unfair without the colonists being represented in parliament as well. |
20:14.26 | Wormy | Britain didn,t care enough tbh, the only imports they were getting was fish, while other colonies supplied tea, sugar and spices |
20:14.59 | Monet | Wormy: You forget the cotton and sugar being frown i nthe southern states |
20:15.05 | Monet | grown* |
20:15.20 | Wormy | Yeah, but it was't producing much |
20:15.36 | Monet | And the northern states...well what were they providing? |
20:15.37 | Wormy | Not like the other colonies |
20:15.46 | Wormy | Fish |
20:17.27 | Monet | Even more recently the pledge of aliegence line "one nation under God", that was Cold War paranoia that continues ot this day. |
20:18.03 | Cyrannian | I think the pledge of allegiance is particularly stupid. |
20:18.40 | Cyrannian | Is it still compulsory in schools? |
20:18.50 | Monet | Most schools yeah |
20:21.31 | Imperios | Blarg |
20:21.44 | Imperios | And people say we're authoritariam |
20:21.46 | Imperios | authoritarian |
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20:22.17 | Imperios | Aeo could say that we're undemocratic and all, but it's not the key problem; corruption is |
20:22.45 | Imperios | Our government is EXTREMELY corrupt, as is our bureaucracy |
20:22.53 | Imperios | And our police, et cetera |
20:23.08 | Imperios | Is giving bribes to policemen a widespread practice in the UK? |
20:23.20 | Wormy | Hush Imperiois, you might be being watched |
20:23.22 | Imperios | In Russia, it's almost universal |
20:23.42 | Imperios | So be it, I have rights |
20:23.44 | Wormy | I guess it does happen but it ould be rarer |
20:23.56 | Ghel | It's certainly known to happen in the UK; I don't know about it being widespread, though. |
20:25.14 | Monet | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT9IYEmUXbs I found this on the subject matter of the pledge |
20:25.37 | Monet | I'd say that modern antions are at a stage where the state should seriously start reflecting the population. |
20:25.45 | Monet | nations* |
20:26.32 | Monet | Rather than this dividing line between the ideas of the peopel in power and the ideas of the general populace. |
20:31.43 | Monet | It makes me unsettled this girl in the video could be harassed and bullied because of what she is standing for. |
20:34.58 | Wormy | I do nthink the youth in the UK have lost respect for eldersb and police, we could learn a ting or two from America there |
20:35.53 | Wormy | Like the kid caught by a cop in the US whocried when the policeman threatened to call his mom and juvinelle all |
20:35.56 | Wormy | Hall |
20:36.10 | Monet | One thing i've been suggesting to others elsewhere, in the developed world we could be reaching a stage where national boraders mean nothing. |
20:36.25 | Wormy | If it was somechav in the UK, e woud have been rude or aggressive |
20:36.52 | Wormy | Or would see a prisn sentence as a medal |
20:37.37 | Ghel | Are you sure there aren't plenty in America who would feel the same way? |
20:40.32 | Wormy | Maybe in some parts |
20:43.47 | Wormy | I mentioned it to a coupe of Americans on the internet ad they agreed |
20:44.58 | Wormy | No I can't critisise any society without being critical of my own |
20:45.30 | PabloDePablo | I read some stuff about the pledge of allegiance being creepy, actually |
20:45.50 | PabloDePablo | I'm homeschooled so I haven't had to say it for a long while but it actually is kind of creepy when you think about it |
20:46.11 | Monet | I only know one line of it |
20:46.23 | PabloDePablo | It's something kids just sort of learn and they're too young to piece together what it is |
20:46.42 | Monet | I know you are taught to recite it from elementary school onwards |
20:47.47 | PabloDePablo | To boil it down- "America is great and I am loyal to it and it alone" |
20:48.31 | Monet | In other words you are spoonfed nationalism? |
20:48.37 | Monet | Okay I see a problem here |
20:48.39 | PabloDePablo | Pretty much. |
20:49.06 | Monet | Nationalism was a key contributor to WWI |
20:49.17 | PabloDePablo | "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." |
20:49.22 | PabloDePablo | Here is the full thing. |
20:49.41 | Wormy | Republic f Texas? |
20:49.43 | Wormy | jk |
20:49.49 | DrodoEmpire | I might as well put in my two cents; The pledge of alligence is a little weird (and also has a generous amount of religious bullcrap), but I see no problem with patriotism or being loyal to your country. :P |
20:50.10 | PabloDePablo | It's less the patriotism and loyalty |
20:50.11 | PabloDePablo | More like |
20:50.30 | Wormy | indivisible probably means it not hur |
20:50.30 | PabloDePablo | It's taught to really young kids and they don't really understand what it means at that age |
20:50.41 | DrodoEmpire | Worshipping your country? Yes, that's bad. So is being outright fanatical |
20:50.49 | Cyrannian | There are several different types of nationalism and not all are unhealthy. |
20:50.54 | DrodoEmpire | ^7 |
20:50.58 | DrodoEmpire | *^ |
20:51.06 | PabloDePablo | Yeah |
20:51.23 | Wormy | There is nothing wrong with a bit of pride. Knowing your history s precious |
20:51.56 | Monet | I do wonder if this promotes the idea that America is *the* greatest nation on Earth. |
20:52.01 | Wormy | I for example stand for western standards of tolerance, self-criticism etc. |
20:52.27 | Wormy | I also feel very proud of my home county |
20:52.44 | Wormy | So there |
20:53.13 | Wormy | That is county btw, the county of Derbyshire |
20:54.13 | Wormy | Test |
20:55.37 | OluapPlayer | Gah where's Panda when you need him |
20:55.43 | OluapPlayer | I wanna brag about stuff hur |
20:56.23 | Wormy | And yes, I feel a cringe for saying that, dunno why. A meme that respecting history is a taboo perhaps? |
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20:57.02 | Cyrannian | I certainly wouldn't be the type to claim that I'd die for my country (because ew) but I'm technically an Irish nationalist (there's a difference between Irish republicanism and Irish nationalism) |
20:57.05 | Liquid_Ink | Hello! |
20:58.17 | Ghel | Hello. |
20:58.18 | Cyrannian | For example, I'm happy with Northern Ireland being apart of the UK but I get irked when people think I'm British. :P |
20:59.08 | DrodoEmpire | Cyrannian: I think I said this before, but I like to differentiate between "country" and "government"; I'd die for Canada (the country; a concept), but certainly not for the current government (consevatives and fuhrer Harper) |
20:59.40 | Wormy | I'd probably die to protect the people of my country, yes |
20:59.59 | Wormy | But only if it was invaded |
21:00.20 | Liquid_Ink | I'd probably die to help overthrow my country |
21:00.26 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
21:00.27 | Monet | Yeah. Whe nwe say "I'd die for my country" so we mean we'll die for where we life, the community we grew up it, the concept of the nation, or the government as a representation of the people? |
21:00.53 | Imperios | I love the country, but hate the state |
21:01.40 | Monet | I'd like to move to New Zealand one day. |
21:01.55 | Wormy | Yeah, I love te countryside, culture, folkore and history of Britain, can't say I like the government parties at all |
21:01.55 | Monet | Because I despise Britain's current Conservative government |
21:01.56 | Liquid_Ink | unfriends Monet. |
21:01.56 | Ghel | Or what about the dying for the values that the nation ideally represents? Typically things like liberty, democracy, etc. |
21:02.02 | Imperios | Then again my blood is that of an immigrant |
21:02.19 | Ghel | about dying for* |
21:02.21 | Imperios | My ancestors fled their country when it was invaded |
21:02.27 | Monet | Liquid_Ink: I'd consider Australia but I don't know if I'm brave enough. |
21:02.28 | Imperios | Not sure if I am that patriotic |
21:02.45 | Liquid_Ink | Oh if you went to AUstralia that I'd euthanise you. |
21:02.47 | Wormy | Perhaps, so the open-ended progress of knowledge can continue |
21:02.48 | Monet | So many things that would want to kill me. |
21:03.36 | Wormy | Is it abut blooid or a nature to protect the innocent? |
21:03.38 | Monet | In regards to what i'd die for, I'd say I'm a European national first and a brit second. |
21:03.51 | Cyrannian | ^ |
21:04.01 | Xho | Gah music theory |
21:04.26 | Monet | I'd be perfectly fien with Europe becoming one aggragate state |
21:04.29 | Imperios | ...Do I count as European? I'd like to join in |
21:04.47 | Liquid_Ink | Yes you do. |
21:05.16 | Wormy | I'm not afraid to say I'm English first and British second, not because I'm a supremacist, but English culture is distinct and itself varied |
21:05.24 | Cyrannian | I like being European. |
21:05.26 | Wormy | And I grew up in it |
21:05.39 | Xho | I'd much rather be European rather than anything else really |
21:05.57 | Xho | On the risk of sounding racist |
21:05.59 | Imperios | My ethnic identity is SKEEEWED |
21:06.00 | Liquid_Ink | I'd be specifically Swdish. |
21:06.11 | Wormy | I'm not sure if I like all the EU's policies, though I wouldn't say I'm against it |
21:06.12 | OluapPlayer | u racist little shit |
21:06.15 | OluapPlayer | Go plan fiction |
21:06.21 | Xho | noh music theory |
21:06.39 | Xho | Imperios: You want another language, check out music theory hur |
21:06.44 | Imperios | I consider myself Russian, Petersburgian, Korean, European, Eurasian, and East Asian |
21:07.35 | Wormy | Like the stupid rule that banned feeding human foodwaste to pigs, an EU rule which is now leading to more wate being dumped. |
21:08.05 | Imperios | Xho: Ditto |
21:08.09 | Imperios | Europe is awesome |
21:08.09 | Monet | Wormy: Not neccesserily. |
21:08.16 | Cyrannian | I consider myself Irish and European. I think a more closely integrated Europe is a very positive thing given our... history. |
21:08.21 | Wormy | It destroed loads of jobs which involved taking thefood waste from factories and deliverting them to farms |
21:08.22 | Monet | What about composting? |
21:08.39 | OluapPlayer | Silly people obsessed with nationalities |
21:08.53 | Wormy | They won't be turned to compost, they are being sent to the waste-tip |
21:09.01 | Imperios | Not sure what of the national identities I mentioned is primary to me |
21:09.17 | Imperios | Russian is probably my chief identity, followed closely by Korean |
21:09.40 | Imperios | European is the third most important national identity of mine |
21:09.46 | Imperios | East Asian is the fourth |
21:10.09 | Wormy | On the other hand the EU's grant awards given to farmers who can prove they are promoting biodiversity in farmland is brilliant |
21:10.51 | Imperios | I'm actually known for being obsessed with European values |
21:11.08 | Liquid_Ink | I consider myslef Scottish and Old Prussian |
21:11.16 | Imperios | One of my friends one characterised me as "Asian on the outside, European on the inside" |
21:11.54 | Imperios | I am also a teeny tiny bit Ainu |
21:11.57 | Imperios | And Chinese |
21:12.28 | OluapPlayer | http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/world/middleeast/suicide-bomb-instructor-accidentally-kills-iraqi-pupils.html?smid=re-share "Now watch, I'm only going to do this once." |
21:12.33 | Xho | You're half-asian deel wit it |
21:12.39 | Imperios | Xho: Nu |
21:12.45 | Cyrannian | What is the one thing you don't like about your country? |
21:12.47 | Xho | Nu is a Kicath deel wit it |
21:12.54 | Ghel | I count myself as a sapient being first, human a grudging second, and European/British on an as-needed basis. Nations are temporary; races are nothing more than nucleotide sequences. Personhood and the rights that go with it are not. |
21:12.57 | OluapPlayer | everything |
21:12.58 | Xho | Cyrannian: People |
21:13.11 | Imperios | Genetically I am ~100% East Asian |
21:13.24 | Xho | You're Asian then |
21:13.25 | Xho | deel wit it |
21:13.26 | Imperios | Cyrannian: Corruption and lack of culture |
21:13.47 | Monet | Cyrannian: I feel like I have no say in my local government. |
21:14.13 | Imperios | "Asian" is actually a rarely used word in Russian |
21:14.27 | Imperios | Because Russian Asians are really different from each other |
21:14.28 | Wormy | I have Russian, Irish and Polish couple of generations back |
21:14.38 | Imperios | So are Caucasoid Russians |
21:14.57 | Imperios | And African Russians... well |
21:15.03 | Monet | David Cameron was MP for South Oxfordshire, so in a sense he was my local Conservative rep. And as far as I know he's never done anything local - no visits, no gatherings, he's been quite distanced from his former constituents. |
21:15.51 | Xho | Politics in a nutshell |
21:16.03 | Wormy | But also Anglo-Saxon, Nordic and perhaps some Asian (round near Middle East or Arab world) further back |
21:16.24 | Imperios | There was that black guy who sold stuff on the streets, and that half-black guy my dad knows - I kinda admire him, he's highly intelligent and well-versed in languages - and there was that noble guy who served Peter the Firstmmm |
21:16.34 | Imperios | Wormy: One of uuuuus |
21:16.44 | Wormy | And a teeny bit Neanderthal |
21:16.52 | Imperios | Anyway, the point I am trying to make |
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21:17.12 | Cyrannian | My uncle is a local county councilor and people seem to think that he is there to solve all their little problems |
21:17.19 | Imperios | Is that in Russia people don't divide themselves into white, black and Asian, but instead into ethnic group |
21:17.23 | Imperios | s |
21:17.24 | Xho | Uncle Waptor |
21:17.39 | Cyrannian | So much so that my mum thinks they take advantage of his kind nature. |
21:18.01 | Imperios | So "you're Asian, deal with it" is not exactly a valid statement when referring to a Russian, Xho |
21:18.09 | Ghel | Wormy: I wouldn't be surprised if everyone here has some Neanderthal in them. |
21:18.11 | Xho | YOU SAID YOU WERE 100% EAST ASIAN |
21:18.14 | Xho | YOU'RE FUCKING ASIAN |
21:18.16 | Monet | Imperios: I heard somewhere that there is no (or next-to-no) black prejudice in Japan. |
21:18.17 | Xho | FUCKING DEAL WITH IT |
21:18.17 | Xho | FUCK |
21:18.41 | Imperios | Monet: No black people, no prejudice hur |
21:18.53 | Imperios | Well actually I doubt that |
21:18.56 | Xho | I didn't actually see many tourists in Japan |
21:19.07 | Xho | Most of the tourists were Japanese |
21:19.15 | Imperios | Japan is among the most prejudiced people in the world hur |
21:19.20 | Xho | wat u on about |
21:19.27 | Xho | Everyone I met in Japan was nice |
21:19.32 | Monet | Xho: Lesson one of visiting a foreign country: Avoid looking lik a tourist. |
21:19.50 | Wormy | Ghel Being British we probably have some Roman and Celtic genes too |
21:19.53 | Xho | Monet: I've been to New York enough times to blend in now hur |
21:20.00 | Xho | I can't do that anywhere else I have been |
21:20.04 | Imperios | They are somewhat xenophobic |
21:20.13 | Xho | Mainly because the ethnicities are too far out for someone of my appearance |
21:20.21 | Wormy | Also, wasn't Denisovan genes detected, or genes from an unknown humanoid |
21:20.38 | Ghel | Great Britain is, genetically and linguistically, just half of Europe shoved into one island. |
21:20.43 | Wormy | Hominid lol |
21:20.48 | Monet | The Americans i've met on the street in New York seemed quite ecstatic when I said I was from England |
21:20.55 | Ghel | Denisovan genes were detected in... Micronesians, I think. |
21:21.05 | Wormy | Yep, thats why I think nationalists are silly |
21:21.12 | Cyrannian | That somehow reminds me of a line from Little Britain USA: "Americans tend to stay in their own country when they go on holidays, which suits the rest of the world just fine." |
21:21.13 | Xho | I never really spoke to anyone there which is why I fit in I think |
21:21.19 | Monet | One guy put on a cockney accent for me |
21:21.32 | Wormy | The flow of migration made Britain |
21:21.40 | Ghel | And genes from some unknown hominid was discovered in some old fossils; I can't remember any more than that, though. |
21:22.02 | Xho | Japan however |
21:22.12 | Xho | If you're taller than 5'7" you will stick out in a crowd |
21:22.26 | Monet | Crap |
21:22.33 | Monet | I'm 6ft 2 |
21:22.42 | Xho | You'd stick out in a British crowd hur |
21:22.43 | Wormy | I would talk to them in an East Midland dialect if they did that to me lol |
21:22.44 | Liquid_Ink | If you're 5'7" you'll stick out in North Korea. |
21:22.51 | Imperios | Xho: http://lurkmore.so/images/9/93/Severniy-chelovek.jpg |
21:22.54 | Imperios | http://lurkmore.so/images/e/ed/Churqueportrait.jpg |
21:22.59 | Imperios | and me |
21:23.06 | Imperios | Do you think we form a single group |
21:23.22 | Xho | Imperios: To us narrow minded white men you're Asian hur |
21:23.36 | Imperios | You too are Asian hur |
21:23.49 | Xho | Well not entirely Half Asian |
21:23.50 | Liquid_Ink | Imperios: I love you and accept your specificness |
21:23.54 | Xho | Half-Anglo Indian |
21:24.01 | Xho | So I get the skin colour but not much else |
21:24.09 | Liquid_Ink | What's the other half? |
21:24.12 | Xho | British |
21:24.12 | Monet | Wormy: I understand that there are a number of Americans only know two accents of English. So I just smiled really. |
21:24.15 | Imperios | I get the... hm... |
21:24.20 | Imperios | Actually it's weird |
21:24.23 | Wormy | Ghelae Did I show yoy tyhe article claiming pig genes were found in human DNA? Seuggesting pigs hybridised with apes. It was an honest study |
21:24.27 | Imperios | Why do people call us yellow? |
21:24.34 | Xho | Hell I dunno |
21:24.38 | Xho | I ask myself the same question |
21:24.40 | Ghel | I think I've heard about it. I'm sure it was discredited, though. |
21:24.41 | Xho | "Why am I yellow?" |
21:24.52 | Imperios | I'm like... light olive |
21:24.53 | Liquid_Ink | East Asian skin is vaguely yellow |
21:24.58 | Xho | I mean my mother is ethnically brown and my father is white |
21:24.59 | Monet | I think the term "yellow" is mostly exaggerated |
21:25.02 | Liquid_Ink | So racist cartooons depicted you as yellow |
21:25.03 | Xho | So I guess I make it halfway |
21:25.09 | Imperios | B-b-but |
21:25.17 | Imperios | Greeks have skin colour like that |
21:25.21 | Ghel | I'm guessing they ran out of realistic colours after white, black and brown. |
21:25.24 | Imperios | Nobody calls them yellow |
21:25.35 | Xho | Funny about Japan though, hovering around a height of 6' |
21:25.35 | Cyrannian | Even people calling themselves "white" and "black" doesn't make any sense when you think about it. |
21:25.41 | Monet | Same reason Indians don't get African-American prejudice probably. |
21:25.45 | Ghel | And Greeks built big monuments and lived in Europe, so other Europeans claimed them as white. |
21:25.51 | Xho | Average Japanese man being like 5'7" and women being around 5'3" |
21:25.54 | Imperios | Cyrannian: It does, at times |
21:25.59 | Xho | Twas a strange experience |
21:26.05 | Imperios | SOME Africans are really *black* |
21:26.33 | Xho | Although some Japanese people were like 6'5" and I was like 'WHAT' |
21:26.42 | Monet | I think a lot of modern blacks being more brown is a mix of interbreeding and adaptation. |
21:26.44 | Liquid_Ink | There's a Greek in my class who identifies as "white" who has darker skin than an Indian who identifies as "black" |
21:27.09 | Imperios | ^ pretty funny |
21:27.10 | Xho | There's a lot of skin colourations in Indians |
21:27.20 | Xho | You have light brown which is practically further north |
21:27.27 | Xho | And darker skins verging on black which is further south |
21:27.30 | Imperios | Why don't we just identify each other by our region of origin? |
21:27.39 | Xho | Fine |
21:27.41 | Xho | Hampshire |
21:27.44 | Xho | Doesn't really work |
21:27.50 | Imperios | Saint-Petersburg |
21:28.01 | Xho | That and my mother's side of the family has a few different origins |
21:28.03 | Imperios | It is considered to be the poshest city in Russia |
21:28.18 | Imperios | My mom is from Chelyabinsk |
21:28.37 | Xho | My grandfather was from somewhere in India (possibly Delhi) and my grandmother was from Karachi in Pakistan |
21:28.38 | Monet | These days "white" and "black" are mre like "beige" and "brown" |
21:28.39 | Imperios | ...you know, remember the meteorite? My mom was born there |
21:28.51 | Wormy | No |
21:28.59 | Ghel | I think the problem with identifying each other by region of origin is that you can mention the region and other people will think "where's that?" |
21:29.04 | Wormy | :> |
21:29.14 | Xho | Considering my grandfather was born in 1907 and my grandmother was born in 1915 this was loooooooooooooong before everything went berserk |
21:29.24 | Imperios | Monet: My 4 years old sister refers to her own skin colour as "cream" |
21:29.25 | Monet | Also never be on the recieving end of mistaking someone's region of origin |
21:29.37 | Imperios | Yep |
21:29.42 | Imperios | DON'T CALL ME CHINESE |
21:29.46 | Imperios | DON'T |
21:29.58 | Wormy | Thats like when my Great Great Grandather probablky existed |
21:30.05 | Monet | Don't assume all scousers are from Yorkshire. |
21:30.07 | Wormy | Dat old |
21:30.08 | Xho | My family is so old they were part of the British Empire overseas territories |
21:30.14 | Ghel | Wormy: Or in other words, when you wore a top hat. |
21:30.20 | Wormy | Yes |
21:30.24 | Xho | I forget how far back our family has been traced |
21:30.24 | Imperios | I remember a group of Jehova's Witnesses mistaking me for Chinese |
21:30.33 | Wormy | I am him reborn |
21:30.46 | Xho | I think the furthest back it has been traced was around 1830 |
21:31.07 | Xho | As for my father's side of the family bah it's too big and too British to care |
21:31.10 | Imperios | Anyway, the city my mom was born on has a funny reputation mowadays |
21:31.12 | Ghel | I'd struggle to trace my family much further back than 1930. |
21:31.24 | Xho | Although my father was oddly enough born in Germany |
21:31.25 | Imperios | Basically |
21:31.35 | PabloDePablo | Hey guys, I just wanted to ask if anyone could help me with my stats section when I put my species page up |
21:31.37 | Imperios | BRINGEN SIE MIR FEGELEIN |
21:31.45 | Ghel | Imperios: Does it have a reputation for meteorites crashing into it? |
21:31.46 | Xho | West Germany that is |
21:31.49 | Wormy | My family branches are traced back a long way, though my surname's history has detail |
21:31.56 | Imperios | Ghel: ...Lemme explain |
21:32.15 | Ghel | PabloDePablo: We can try to help if you ask anything specific. |
21:32.33 | Imperios | There's a Russian sitcom's section about her city, and it basically revolves around gay people |
21:32.34 | Xho | Man my father was born in Germany at the time the Soviets ruled over the east |
21:32.35 | Xho | Fuck |
21:32.44 | PabloDePablo | I'm just sort of new to the whole thing and I don't want to mess up the stats section so I'm gonna leave it empty for now. |
21:32.45 | Monet | I don't know about my fathers' side but going back to around the 1900, my Great great Grandfather and his family moved to the UK from Holland. |
21:32.53 | Imperios | The unrequited love of a worker for his boss |
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21:33.13 | Xho | Monet: I demand you change your username to Van Gogh |
21:33.29 | Ghel | Hello. |
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21:33.49 | Ghel | Hello. |
21:33.52 | Wormy | Famous people have my surnames hur |
21:33.56 | Monet | Maybe I should change my username to Spacer176, which is what I use for a few other sites. |
21:33.59 | Xho | Then again on the scheme of things 1960 wasn't that long ago |
21:33.59 | AdmiralPanda | hello all |
21:34.07 | Imperios | Monet: Heil cannabis |
21:34.07 | Cyrannian | buh-bai |
21:34.14 | Monet | Night |
21:34.19 | Xho | adios |
21:34.21 | Imperios | Night |
21:34.24 | Wormy | Bye |
21:34.45 | Wormy | Don't let bed bugs bite |
21:35.01 | Xho | I believe my grandparents left India in 1950 which in retrospect was probably a clever move |
21:35.04 | Imperios | I'd tell you bye in Japanese but I haven't been talking to Alyona recently so I forgot the words hur |
21:35.12 | Xho | Although I believe they were racially discriminated for a while |
21:35.16 | Xho | Imperios: Oyasumi nasai |
21:35.21 | Imperios | Ya |
21:35.45 | Monet | Imperios: Saiyonara? |
21:35.56 | Xho | That's 'goodbye' |
21:36.02 | Imperios | Xho: My grand-grandparents left Korea because of the Japanese conquering the shit out of their country hur |
21:36.05 | Monet | Close enough |
21:36.10 | Xho | Oyasumi nasai means 'good night' |
21:36.23 | Xho | Imperios: joponooso |
21:36.45 | Technobliterator | so, I'm trying to take a 1 week break from dota to do shit here |
21:36.46 | Imperios | My family's history is like a series of "FUK DIS" |
21:36.50 | Technobliterator | because I have some HUGE wiki plans atm |
21:36.59 | Xho | Because my grandparents lived under British culture I don't think they would have lived as comfortably in post-British India |
21:37.27 | Xho | I mean they rarely spoke any Indian language |
21:37.30 | Imperios | Live in Korea -> Get raped by Japan -> FUK DIS |
21:37.56 | Imperios | Live in Russia -> Get raped by Stalin and sent to Kazakhstan -> FUK DIS |
21:38.06 | Xho | Although from what I recall, Urdu isn't an Indian language |
21:38.08 | Xho | Might be |
21:38.15 | Imperios | It is |
21:38.20 | AdmiralPanda | Technobliterator: One does not simply take a break from MOBAs |
21:38.22 | Xho | Ah yeah |
21:38.24 | Wormy | Some of my ancestors fled Russia, from the white army I think, but the forest f their surname still exists |
21:38.25 | Xho | State of New Delhi |
21:38.25 | Imperios | It is an Aryan language |
21:38.35 | Imperios | Just with some Arabic influence |
21:38.37 | Xho | They lived in New Delhi up until 1950 so they must have |
21:38.38 | Technobliterator | well |
21:38.43 | Technobliterator | it's possible when you have other stuff to do |
21:38.49 | Imperios | And for some of my relatives |
21:39.10 | Ghel | Some of my very distant (hundreds of years ago) ancestors lived in the north of England. Probably. |
21:39.15 | Imperios | Live in Kazakhstan -> Get raped by the fall of the USSR and then the natives -> FUK DIS |
21:39.28 | Wormy | Scarily enough, some of them were told there were too many peope on the ship and ot left onshore. the ship sank and everyone on it died |
21:39.28 | Monet | All I know about my father's side is that he and his brothers grew up in North Yorkshire. |
21:40.20 | Wormy | My very very very distant ancestors on the other side held a position of power in cumbria |
21:40.44 | Wormy | And before that were possibly Viking |
21:41.14 | Ghel | I think some of my ancestors might have been African. About 30,000 years ago. |
21:41.38 | Xho | hur |
21:41.53 | Wormy | Yeah but I know the name of the guy who owned Cumbria |
21:42.02 | Monet | I have uncles and aunts in Yorkshire, Daerbyshire, New Zealand and Saudi Arabia I think. |
21:42.22 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
21:43.35 | Ghel | IIRC, my great-aunt's family (or some similar relatives) live in Australia. |
21:43.57 | Monet | I never really asked about my dad's side and on my mum's side she sees her parents and siblings as jackals but is much nicer about other relatives, like the on in Derby. |
21:45.00 | Wormy | On the ther surname, a famous astronaut shares it, probably not related in any genetic way though |
21:45.33 | Xho | Armstrong |
21:45.55 | Wormy | Nope |
21:46.06 | Wormy | But he did go to the moon |
21:46.14 | Xho | Bah |
21:46.15 | Wormy | Not saying who |
21:46.38 | Xho | James Irwin |
21:47.09 | Wormy | I'm not giving any more hints |
21:47.17 | Xho | dam |
21:47.37 | Liquid_Ink | Aldrin |
21:47.43 | Wormy | But could be |
21:47.54 | Technobliterator | yo guys |
21:47.59 | Liquid_Ink | Yo. |
21:48.01 | Xho | NO |
21:48.02 | Technobliterator | if I make a blog asking you to give me feedback |
21:48.05 | Xho | I mean yo |
21:48.06 | Technobliterator | will you comment |
21:48.12 | Xho | Or Jo perhaps |
21:48.13 | Liquid_Ink | Sure |
21:48.15 | Xho | I dunno |
21:48.15 | OluapPlayer | No |
21:48.20 | Xho | Xho |
21:48.22 | Xho | yeh |
21:48.40 | Liquid_Ink | Look at Kitten first: http://24.media.tumblr.com/7537bf8b3525fb20411843579a68619f/tumblr_n0gwhxgevD1stseppo1_1280.jpg |
21:48.43 | Technobliterator | aren't they pronounced the same in spanish? lol |
21:48.53 | Xho | Dunno |
21:49.06 | Technobliterator | well |
21:49.08 | Technobliterator | the j sound is a y |
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21:49.25 | Xho | Really? Never really new that |
21:49.33 | Xho | No Spanish word I know pronounces it like that |
21:49.35 | Monet | Either that or J is pronounced as a H |
21:49.43 | OluapPlayer | ho |
21:49.44 | Xho | I'm with Monet on that one |
21:49.45 | OluapPlayer | u a ho |
21:49.46 | Imperios | Isn't it h in Spanish? |
21:49.59 | Monet | In Eastern European dialects J is often Y |
21:50.02 | AdmiralPanda | Technobliterator: Mebbeh |
21:50.04 | Xho | Then again I don't know many words in Spanish that begin with a J |
21:50.09 | Technobliterator | jose |
21:50.11 | Technobliterator | josefina |
21:50.13 | TekDroid | Hey |
21:50.15 | Xho | THAT'S A NAME YOU DUM |
21:50.18 | Technobliterator | but |
21:50.20 | Technobliterator | still a word :c |
21:50.20 | Xho | NAME |
21:50.21 | Xho | U |
21:50.22 | Xho | DUM |
21:50.26 | Technobliterator | wait |
21:50.27 | Monet | "Jormungander" is pronounced "Your-mun-gand-rh" |
21:50.32 | Technobliterator | no i'm blonde as fuck |
21:50.38 | Technobliterator | monet is right it's a h sound not a y |
21:51.00 | Monet | Its als owhy the German for "yes" sounds like "yah" |
21:51.12 | AdmiralPanda | JAH |
21:51.15 | Liquid_Ink | Did everyone love my kitten? |
21:51.16 | Xho | Justificación is like the only word I know that beings with a J in Spanish |
21:51.23 | OluapPlayer | ~kick AdmiralPanda |
21:51.23 | infobot | ACTION kicks AdmiralPanda |
21:51.28 | OluapPlayer | Killed 4Kids |
21:51.31 | Monet | Tapas |
21:51.31 | AdmiralPanda | gj |
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21:51.38 | Xho | Monet: dat not j |
21:51.43 | OluapPlayer | I went for a completeyl different strategy |
21:51.50 | OluapPlayer | Went full Havel Set on them |
21:51.56 | Ghel | "j" is a bit of a pointless letter. Depending on the language, it's either pronounced "h", "y", "zh" or (in English) "dzh". So in the latter two cases, I guess it's good for reducing the number of letters you use in words. |
21:52.06 | AdmiralPanda | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Australia-New_Zealand_Republic#History Angrybirds < now you can shup for a bit, I have made tiny bit of progress in between other stuffs in life |
21:52.28 | Xho | Ghel: But spelling juice as Dzhuice |
21:52.31 | Xho | wat da |
21:52.49 | Ghel | No, you'd spell it Dzhoose. |
21:52.53 | Xho | ech |
21:53.33 | Xho | Technobliterator: Me opino que necesitas que repases más |
21:53.33 | Wormy | I spell it has Jew-se |
21:53.46 | Xho | Wormy: cool it with the anti-semitism hur |
21:53.49 | Technobliterator | i think that you need to something more? |
21:53.51 | Xho | Semitism even |
21:54.04 | Wormy | Lol |
21:54.07 | AdmiralPanda | Oluap: Havel's is always fun |
21:54.25 | Liquid_Ink | We all love Jews! |
21:54.33 | Xho | Technobliterator: Que yo dijé significa exactamente lo que has demonstrado |
21:54.40 | OluapPlayer | I just tanked all of their attacks |
21:54.43 | OluapPlayer | Can't stop the rock |
21:54.48 | Ghel | Liquid_Ink: You mean Dzhews. |
21:54.50 | OluapPlayer | Also I did it with the zwei, with no resin |
21:55.04 | OluapPlayer | Mainly because I ran out of resin and Gold-head-guy didn't have anymore for sale |
21:55.05 | Technobliterator | too busy to translate that |
21:55.06 | Technobliterator | :c |
21:55.08 | Liquid_Ink | Ghel: WOuldn't that be Dzhooz? |
21:55.11 | Xho | u fail |
21:55.19 | Ghel | No; that's just silly. |
21:55.24 | Xho | demostrado* |
21:55.26 | Xho | Bah my spelling |
21:55.33 | AdmiralPanda | OluapPlayer: You can farm it off mushrooms, anyway gj |
21:55.42 | OluapPlayer | Like I'm gonna go all the way there |
21:55.42 | AdmiralPanda | I wish you were on Xbox so we could PvP |
21:55.47 | Imperios | Liquid_Ink: Random fact: "Jew" is a highly offensive word in Russian |
21:55.48 | OluapPlayer | You think I got patience hur |
21:56.03 | Imperios | Well, "Zhid" which is its Russian form |
21:56.07 | AdmiralPanda | You don't need patience, you need to GIT GUD SCRUB |
21:56.25 | Liquid_Ink | I see |
21:56.36 | OluapPlayer | gtfo faget i bet u use dex weps |
21:56.36 | Xho | "You need to level up" |
21:56.37 | Liquid_Ink | What then do you call the Jewish in a non-offensive way? |
21:56.39 | Imperios | You are supposed to call Jews "Yevrey" instead, "Yevrey" as in "Hebrew" |
21:56.46 | AdmiralPanda | OluapPlayer: Didn't even level that shit up |
21:56.46 | Liquid_Ink | I see |
21:57.21 | Imperios | Negro, at the other hand, is not offensive in Russian |
21:57.30 | AdmiralPanda | Knight starting class, dex 10 to start XD |
21:57.39 | OluapPlayer | knite |
21:57.54 | AdmiralPanda | see my greatshield > cry |
21:58.15 | Xho | Imperios: жид HOOOOOOOOOOOOOON |
21:58.17 | AdmiralPanda | it's bone wheel all over again |
21:58.24 | OluapPlayer | I imagine the random number generator was on my side today cause the Kings nearly didn't use their magic explosions |
21:58.31 | Xho | explodes |
21:58.50 | OluapPlayer | Also in one of my tries I was like, equipped all of Havel's set, went "let's do this" and jumped down. But I forgot to put the covenant of Artorias up |
21:58.54 | AdmiralPanda | RNG is never on my side |
21:59.09 | AdmiralPanda | butt demons always stomping |
21:59.26 | Wormy | Bbl half an hour |
21:59.32 | AdmiralPanda | anyway now I go |
22:00.50 | Ghel | I'm going to go now. Bye! |
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22:05.50 | Liquid_Ink | Who ordered the mass executions? |
22:06.16 | Monet | Morpheus probably |
22:07.31 | Liquid_Ink | There goes another one! |
22:11.39 | Technobliterator | i'm asking for a LOT of you guys |
22:11.43 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Technobliterator/Huge_update_and_requesting_feedback |
22:11.47 | Technobliterator | but plz give feedback |
22:13.21 | OluapPlayer | nu |
22:14.43 | Liquid_Ink | I'll give you feedback when I get home from school. |
22:14.57 | Liquid_Ink | In the meantime, what do you think of the DCP-Vermulan War? |
22:15.40 | Technobliterator | from what I've read, seems interesting |
22:16.34 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not much of a fan of character-based fictions, so I don't think I'd have much of anything useful to say, sorry. :L |
22:16.59 | Technobliterator | no, that's viable feedback there |
22:17.24 | Technobliterator | any feedback is viable. of course I've no hope to please every single user but I'd really like this to be good |
22:17.27 | OluapPlayer | You're asking more than one sentence |
22:17.31 | OluapPlayer | Are you trying to kill me |
22:17.43 | Technobliterator | ...maybe... |
22:17.44 | Technobliterator | :D |
22:17.54 | Monet | She's asking for proper feedback |
22:18.10 | Monet | "is good" only gets peop lso far. |
22:18.18 | Monet | people* |
22:18.41 | Technobliterator | pretty much |
22:18.55 | OluapPlayer | Way to kill the mood |
22:18.57 | OluapPlayer | I was joking |
22:19.30 | Technobliterator | well, in his defence, it's the internet after all |
22:19.36 | Monet | Yeah but saying "is good" is what you do most of the time... |
22:19.56 | Liquid_Ink | So you're asking us to rate the villains in that list by those four categories you mentioned? |
22:20.07 | Technobliterator | [22:19] <Monet> Yeah but saying "is good" is what you do most of the time... |
22:20.08 | OluapPlayer | I can't say much else than that |
22:20.35 | Technobliterator | no need to have a go at him for it. it's just that he often doesn't have time/doesn't know what to say to elaborate, I think? which is half the reason I gave categories |
22:20.40 | Technobliterator | [22:19] <Liquid_Ink> So you're asking us to rate the villains in that list by those four categories you mentioned? |
22:20.44 | Technobliterator | villains and factions, yeah |
22:20.51 | OluapPlayer | doesn't know what to say to elaborate |
22:20.52 | OluapPlayer | That'd be it |
22:21.30 | OluapPlayer | If I like it, I just say I liked it and why, I don't see why I have to go further |
22:22.11 | OluapPlayer | Anyway i'm gonna reply to the blog |
22:22.19 | OluapPlayer | Just gimme a moment to think of what to write |
22:22.36 | Technobliterator | take your time, no rush |
22:25.13 | dromlexer | Eh, at World of Tanks, my highest win ratio is on a tier 1 tank which I only played once. |
22:25.15 | dromlexer | lol |
22:26.58 | PabloDePablo | Wish Admiral was here, I need a biology tip for the Tundrakle page. |
22:30.02 | DrodoEmpire | There, made a minor edit to the Drodo page |
22:30.09 | Monet | I'm no goo with ratings so because I have time, I'll post full feedback |
22:30.24 | Monet | PabloDePablo: I can help if you like |
22:30.48 | dromlexer | Ah, nice to see you again Pablo. |
22:31.40 | dromlexer | So. I'm making a dictionary. |
22:31.50 | DrodoEmpire | I see. |
22:31.57 | dromlexer | I'm open for some suggestions to put in. |
22:31.57 | dromlexer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Aemonkian/Aaillikan_Language/Dictionary |
22:32.44 | DrodoEmpire | I added a picture and a quote thing to the Drodo cavalry section :P |
22:33.11 | dromlexer | I'm going to cook it up like food at your finest restaurant so I can deliver a fiction like the food there. |
22:34.14 | Technobliterator | Monet: "Sometimes I wonder if he - at least on occasion - makes up stuff as he goes along. Although I don't have veteran experience of him but he strikes me as a man who plans for every contingency seeing as how he can see every divergent timeline." |
22:34.36 | Technobliterator | in canon he's meant to not be doing so, though if it appears, it's actually because I'm making stuff up as I go along :P |
22:34.47 | Technobliterator | thanks a lot for the feedback! do you have any for the others? |
22:34.49 | Monet | The whole "chronoscopic orb" thing seemed pretty random. |
22:34.58 | Monet | WOrking on the others now |
22:35.19 | Monet | "UNO refused ot become Vryos so i'll make a big ass energy orb to blow up a galaxy" |
22:35.31 | Monet | Then again...this was the first time he was furious visibly |
22:35.39 | Monet | and we all do stupid things when we're angry. |
22:35.55 | Technobliterator | yeah, that's pretty much spot on |
22:36.13 | Monet | Even gods make errors. |
22:36.23 | Monet | That's what I believe anyway |
22:36.43 | Technobliterator | I'm starting to think that emotions on a deity makes sense, as it can help their decision making |
22:36.56 | dromlexer | Welp, any site than sporewikia and a local newpaper site is getting very slow. |
22:37.21 | Monet | Emotion is more than expressing what's on your mind |
22:37.22 | Technobliterator | and well, when there are so many deities in this situation, and they aren't your typical "omnipresent, omnipotent, omnibenevolent" like most ideas of God are, it makes a lot of sense for gods to make errors |
22:37.55 | PabloDePablo | Sorry, I was AFK for a while |
22:38.06 | OluapPlayer | I'm nearly done here |
22:38.20 | Monet | Among humans and many animals, emotion is used for such things lik establishing authority, soliciting empathy and notifying of danger |
22:38.44 | Technobliterator | that's true as well |
22:39.03 | Monet | Among such creatures, the idea of conveying emotion is so natural that when we encounter something that does not display any emotion we are genionely creeped-out by it |
22:39.25 | PabloDePablo | I wanted to give the Tundrakle race natural ice crystals on their back- excess water in their body would be frozen through glands in the back and form ice crystals along with shoulder blades. |
22:39.41 | PabloDePablo | I'm not sure if it would even work from a biological standpoint, though |
22:39.57 | dromlexer | There's different biochemistries. |
22:40.15 | dromlexer | Some allow life under the -0 point Celuis. |
22:40.37 | DrodoEmpire | I can't wait for the Gigawar to start so the Drodo can finally do something worthwhile. :3 |
22:40.37 | Monet | Its not the most efficient way of storing something |
22:40.48 | DrodoEmpire | And cavalry. Don't forget cavalry. |
22:41.05 | Monet | If anything, ice is a less efficient storage medium than liquid |
22:41.21 | OluapPlayer | There I made a huge-ass list |
22:41.22 | dromlexer | PabloDePablo: you might have to look in this. |
22:41.23 | dromlexer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_topics/Exobiology |
22:41.35 | dromlexer | It's pretty useful. |
22:41.37 | PabloDePablo | It wouldn't be a storage medium, actually |
22:41.42 | Monet | Since ice is one of those few elements that actually DEcreases in density when it solidifies. |
22:41.55 | PabloDePablo | It'd be more of a weird biological function which they use to denote status |
22:41.56 | Monet | elements? |
22:42.02 | Monet | I mean compounds |
22:42.34 | Monet | What's the average temperature of their home environment? |
22:42.59 | dromlexer | Monet: Do you believe there's energy compunds based on C-type biochemistry? |
22:43.34 | PabloDePablo | I haven't pinpoint a solid temperature, but it's generally a tundra- warm enough to have water sources, but generally very cold |
22:44.19 | Monet | dromlexer: You mean a way to prevent nitorgen-phosphorosu breakdown? |
22:44.46 | PabloDePablo | Antarctica is a good point for temperature, although it would have more solid continents |
22:44.54 | PabloDePablo | Across the planet |
22:45.12 | dromlexer | Hm. Probably. But I was thinking of energy accumulated when breaking down those compounds by the body. |
22:45.25 | Monet | Well since nitrogen is a good oxidiser I imagien such life could evlolve on oxygen-free worlds susing something else as a carrier for respiration. |
22:45.34 | dromlexer | Much complicated to describe. |
22:45.55 | Monet | Wait...FUCk. |
22:46.08 | Monet | Glucose is an oxide compound |
22:46.35 | dromlexer | I saw somewhere about Xenon as a rare breathable gas. |
22:47.08 | Monet | A breathable gas is one where it accepts hydrogen in a chemical reaction. |
22:47.16 | dromlexer | Xenon is a noble gas and doesn't hang on with other atoms. Not a good binder. |
22:47.51 | dromlexer | hydrongen is O-H? |
22:48.07 | Monet | Hydrogen is an element. |
22:48.17 | Monet | But its also incredibly reactive |
22:48.28 | dromlexer | Oh. |
22:48.36 | Monet | Which is why its so good in respiration |
22:48.42 | dromlexer | I mistaken it as hydroxide. |
22:50.24 | Monet | P-N bonds sound photoreactive |
22:50.30 | dromlexer | So. Ammonia, N-P, Oxygen are good binders with H? |
22:51.01 | Monet | Nitrogen can bind with anything |
22:51.22 | Monet | Hydrogen* |
22:51.37 | DrodoEmpire | I feel as though I should rewrite the section on the Drodo page on Dragoons; Seeing as I wrote it at a time when I expected it to be the only type of cavalry in the Drodo arsenal; Now I have four or five types. XD |
22:51.52 | dromlexer | Our air is made of 78.09 nitrogen. |
22:51.54 | dromlexer | % |
22:52.12 | Monet | I meant Hydrogen. |
22:52.32 | Monet | Although Hydrogen almost never occurs naturaly on its own in a terrestrial environment. |
22:53.44 | dromlexer | In Halo, Methane a gas of hydrocarbon, is a breathable gas for those Grunts. |
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22:54.29 | Technobliterator | Monet: are you still working on your post about the other fictions? |
22:54.48 | Wormy | Hi |
22:54.51 | Monet | Technobliterator: I got sidetracked by this science discussion |
22:54.56 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/WebilSe.jpg |
22:55.16 | dromlexer | So I can believe that Hydrogen isn't necessary to be in sugars like glucose. Also available in hydrocarbon-based gases. |
22:55.30 | Technobliterator | fair enough :p |
22:55.44 | Monet | This is true. |
22:56.02 | Monet | although I can't fully remember what it takes to crack methane apart. |
22:56.49 | dromlexer | It happens that I have chemistry about hydrocarbon-based elements and alcohols. |
22:59.19 | dromlexer | And yet to crack a methane apart, needs oxygen. In return you get, gaseous water and carbon dioxide. I don't any natural way to crack it up else than heating it up together with oxygen. |
22:59.31 | Wormy | If you like science, you are in the right place |
22:59.58 | dromlexer | I interest myself more in computer science and biology. |
23:00.18 | dromlexer | Chemistry is *cough* - bottom on my list. |
23:00.58 | dromlexer | Sadly, I'm in a course about game development. So no biology. |
23:01.20 | Wormy | For me its just about any area, but I guess my specialism is geology/planetary science, followed by theoretical physics and palaeobiology |
23:01.21 | dromlexer | Eh, I can always share the knowledge and learn about it from you. |
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23:02.48 | Wormy | I'm quite interested in cosmology, biophysics, computer science and scientific mdelling, as well as thephilisophy of knowledge |
23:03.22 | Wormy | Perhaps astrobiology and emerging tech too :P |
23:03.25 | dromlexer | I remember a planet named "Hoth" from Stargate. It was a ice planet with an atmosphere made up mainly of carbon dioxide. A bacterial(or viral) disease lived in the ice. |
23:03.37 | Wormy | Thatcomesfrom my lve of si-fi |
23:04.22 | dromlexer | http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Hoth |
23:04.42 | dromlexer | So the disease was a viral one. |
23:06.23 | dromlexer | Man I love Stargate and Star Trek. |
23:06.49 | Monet | Viruses are parasites. |
23:06.55 | Monet | So bacterial most likely. |
23:07.47 | AdmiralPanda | according to the wikia page it was viral |
23:08.18 | OluapPlayer | pondo |
23:08.24 | OluapPlayer | Do I got for Seath next? |
23:08.46 | AdmiralPanda | who have you killed so far? |
23:08.54 | OluapPlayer | Really Nito and 4Kids |
23:09.25 | AdmiralPanda | did you get the paladin set when you killed into? |
23:09.27 | AdmiralPanda | nito* |
23:09.30 | OluapPlayer | Yeah |
23:09.34 | OluapPlayer | It's my current armor |
23:09.35 | Monet | So either this was something that was somehow locked in the ide (knowing Stargete science there would have been other bacteria not harmful to humans in this water)...or the scriptwriters dun goofed. |
23:10.19 | AdmiralPanda | gud, paladin has best curse resistance |
23:10.44 | AdmiralPanda | also, did you by any chance go to touch the fluffy tail? |
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23:10.51 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
23:10.59 | Wormy_ | Hi |
23:11.00 | dromlexer | Monet: What do you mean? |
23:11.08 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of which I returned to the Painted World today to get all the items I missed |
23:11.14 | OluapPlayer | It was surprisingly easy this time |
23:11.22 | dromlexer | Hi Wormy_ |
23:11.39 | Monet | dromlexer: Viruses by their nature require host cells in order to reproduce |
23:11.48 | AdmiralPanda | so you have the Xanthous crown? |
23:11.52 | OluapPlayer | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=226720268&tscn=1392067693 btw I found a really good-looking armor combo while going around my items |
23:11.54 | OluapPlayer | I don't |
23:12.32 | dromlexer | The picture on them made them look like bacteriophages. |
23:12.49 | Wormy_ | Ooh are we debating the origin of virae again? |
23:13.04 | OluapPlayer | Elite Knight helm is best helm |
23:13.04 | Monet | Wormy_: Not exactly |
23:13.04 | AdmiralPanda | Oluap: It's mostly just a luxury but it's extra curse resistance |
23:13.22 | OluapPlayer | Oh so you have a Steam account |
23:13.47 | Wormy_ | I woud think that there are so much forms f virus they might as well have multiple origins |
23:14.05 | OluapPlayer | You can go around commenting on all the pictures I've taken hur |
23:14.15 | Monet | Looking at the information on the Hoth Virus, perhaps it sustained itself by other microbes within the water/ice on Hoth? |
23:14.17 | OluapPlayer | All 69 of them |
23:14.39 | dromlexer | So I guess Hoth was used to be a planet with methane (other hydrocarbon) as a gas. As due to a catastrophe burnt all the gas into carbon dioxide and water. So apparently the dioxide caused a greenhouse effect and froze the whole planet. |
23:14.43 | dromlexer | That's my theory. |
23:14.50 | dromlexer | A planet with life. |
23:15.06 | Technobliterator | AdmiralPanda Wormy_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Technobliterator/Huge_update_and_requesting_feedback could you spare a minute of your time to help a friend in need? |
23:15.13 | Monet | Well, Mars is mostly Carbon DIoxide |
23:15.28 | AdmiralPanda | Technobliterator: Only if you praise the sun |
23:15.32 | Monet | but its atmosphere is also very thin |
23:15.44 | OluapPlayer | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=223224478 this is how much I touched the fluffy tail |
23:15.45 | dromlexer | So the virus survived and had a long lifespan and can sleep in torpor when frozen. |
23:16.05 | dromlexer | Hoth's atomsphere seems to be medium in the picture. |
23:16.25 | dromlexer | Judging from the color hue and clouds. |
23:16.26 | Technobliterator | so far I have Oluap's and only one part of Monet's feedback because the science discussion derailed him |
23:16.30 | Technobliterator | :c |
23:16.43 | Wormy_ | We have the loss of it's geomagnetic field to blame or that |
23:16.58 | dromlexer | Cuz science is superior |
23:17.31 | Monet | well... |
23:17.44 | Monet | there's debate on whether or not viruses themselves actually have a lifespan |
23:17.49 | dromlexer | So Hoth apparently used to have a thick atmosphere of hydrocarbon gas. Look at all that ice. |
23:17.51 | Monet | they're not exactly...alive. |
23:18.00 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire#Drodo_Cavalry - Updated the Cavalry. The Cuirassiers finally have there own section. |
23:18.09 | Wormy_ | And the energy recieved y that might have been enough to split co2, giving enough heat for the lighter molecules to slwly escape Martian gravity |
23:18.14 | dromlexer | Viruses' DNA/RNA can decay, right? |
23:18.34 | Monet | Viruses have RNA strains |
23:18.55 | Monet | but i think viruses themselves are effectively immortal |
23:19.09 | Monet | those protien shells of theirs preserve the DNA |
23:19.31 | dromlexer | So the shells are the actual reason on why viruses can decay? |
23:20.13 | Wormy_ | I consider them alive, in the sense that they are replicators that actively caue their environment to produce more copies. They just get another environment of the cell to do it for them |
23:20.36 | dromlexer | I'm not a expert in virology but I always thought that viruses could decay. |
23:21.39 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: Biologically speaking viruses aren't considered to be alive, but in some circumstances they can decay |
23:21.56 | AdmiralPanda | it's just because they have no biological processes that they last for ages |
23:22.09 | Wormy_ | All a cell is, is the extended phenotype programmed by genes to actively replicate them |
23:22.12 | Monet | If these viruses are trapped in ice, they're going to last for a long time |
23:22.56 | DrodoEmpire | Any comments/suggestions for my edits or the rest of the page? |
23:23.31 | dromlexer | Like why they are storing samples of dangerous viral diseases in canister with liquid nitrogen. |
23:25.25 | AdmiralPanda | Technobliterator: Not much help cus I haven't really interacted with anything properly |
23:26.24 | AdmiralPanda | dromlexer: storing them in liquid nitrogen stops environmental factors from degrading the virus |
23:26.50 | dromlexer | ikr |
23:27.10 | AdmiralPanda | also it's safer |
23:27.22 | Technobliterator | well, any help is appreciated |
23:27.27 | Wormy_ | Jo I'll post a comment when I'm back on my PC in a coupe f days |
23:27.31 | Technobliterator | from anyperspective |
23:27.32 | Technobliterator | alright |
23:27.39 | dromlexer | And a more valuable target for bio-terrorism. |
23:28.01 | Monet | Actually i'm feeling sleepy. |
23:28.02 | Wormy_ | I can post comments on the tab but I'll end up annoyed |
23:28.03 | AdmiralPanda | not really, cus if you bring them out of storage wrong you'll kill them |
23:28.13 | AdmiralPanda | well, degrade them to the point of uselessness |
23:28.19 | Monet | I've commented on Falrik, I got ambitious with full feedback. |
23:29.50 | Technobliterator | thanks!:) |
23:30.18 | OluapPlayer | you get nothing but my little strings of text |
23:30.22 | OluapPlayer | You should feel blessed |
23:33.53 | OluapPlayer | brb gotta make a phone call |
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23:34.16 | Tybusen | I bring greetings |
23:34.31 | dromlexer | Hello |
23:34.54 | Tybusen | Monet: I left a question on your dA thingymabob |
23:35.44 | Monet | I'll work on a response tomorrow hopefully |
23:36.02 | Monet | Draconis don't lik being called salamanders though |
23:36.11 | Monet | Being called fat can set some of them off |
23:36.31 | Tybusen | What about the "big" part? |
23:36.54 | Monet | To some that emphasises the "overweight" part |
23:37.09 | Monet | Draconis prefer to think of it as muscle. |
23:37.49 | Tybusen | For the most part then it looks like Colby's done his job :U |
23:38.30 | dromlexer | Monet: I'm going to dare calling them for salamanders. |
23:38.39 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire#Drodo_Cavalry - It'd be great to get some comments on my recent edits, and also the page as a whole. |
23:38.52 | DrodoEmpire | Quotes would be great too |
23:38.57 | Tybusen | I think that confirms it now, "salamander" is the TIAF's derogatory word for a Draconis |
23:39.20 | Monet | "newt" is a common insult amongst Draconis |
23:39.30 | Monet | Like calling osmeone puny |
23:40.30 | Tybusen | DrodoEmpire: That cavalry sounds badass, not often that you see the cavalry getting more than a mention in the military section |
23:40.44 | DrodoEmpire | Thanks. :3 |
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23:40.55 | Monet | Come to think of it, calling a Draconis a salamander could have a similar effect. |
23:42.12 | Tybusen | Salamanders do have a mythical association with fire, if any of the Draconis pick up on that they might just turn that insult around |
23:42.33 | dromlexer | Eh, I can always do an insult in Aaillikan. Something they won't understand until they will realise. |
23:43.08 | Monet | Tybusen: Its that or this cute thing http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Salamander-olympus.jpg |
23:44.07 | dromlexer | I'd say THIS. |
23:44.15 | Wormy_ | Green Runnerbean would be a good Grimbie insult |
23:44.41 | Wormy_ | Since ty look like runner beans on legs to me |
23:45.05 | Tybusen | The TIAF pejorative for a Grimbie is probably "green cockroach" |
23:45.38 | dromlexer | Draconis for "flying reptilian sausages". |
23:46.00 | Tybusen | hur |
23:46.02 | AdmiralPanda | I don't even know what would be used to insult Fordanta |
23:46.06 | Wormy_ | I wonder how aliens know of Earth animals and plants so well... |
23:46.32 | dromlexer | Conspiracy with America's goverment. |
23:46.33 | OluapPlayer | "scrub who gotta git gud" |
23:46.47 | Wormy_ | I know Humanity s widesdpread butstill |
23:46.54 | Tybusen | Wormy_: I always figured that they're using more familiar terms in their own language, and it gets translated to the closest thing when it's presented to us in English |
23:47.04 | Wormy_ | True |
23:47.22 | Monet | dromlexer: Where did sausage come from? |
23:47.26 | AdmiralPanda | OluapPlayer: Fordanta don't even level dexterity |
23:47.33 | Tybusen | TIAF is actually saying their equivalent of a salamander, and it gets translated to "salamander" by the translator microbes |
23:47.47 | AdmiralPanda | nobody's gonna get these jokes |
23:48.00 | dromlexer | The body looks almost like a sausage, prepared in a wrong way. |
23:48.16 | dromlexer | Too much meat at mid. |
23:48.16 | Monet | Well that's one way of looking at them |
23:48.29 | Monet | Oh...oh ourch, yeah that's bad |
23:48.42 | Tybusen | That was a pretty well-played insult |
23:48.45 | Tybusen | I applaud you sir |
23:49.11 | dromlexer | Thanks. |
23:49.11 | Wormy_ | At least there isn't too much meat in the upper portion hur |
23:49.15 | dromlexer | *bows down* |
23:49.54 | dromlexer | Too much fat, is inedible sausage. |
23:50.36 | Monet | Draconis - Y everyone keep calling us fat? |
23:50.57 | AdmiralPanda | Fordanta - Cus you not ripped like us. |
23:51.12 | AdmiralPanda | but seriously, I don't think a Fordanta's muscle would show that much under their thick scales |
23:51.17 | dromlexer | "The reason why they don't have enough of brain fat is because they put all of them in their belly instead." |
23:51.58 | dromlexer | Well. I'm just... *shading my head and smiling* |
23:52.12 | dromlexer | aaaahg. |
23:52.14 | Monet | Draconis - Ur all little shits |
23:52.17 | Tybusen | AdmiralPanda: TIAF insult for a Fordanta, perhaps: "dull green knifeheads" |
23:52.18 | dromlexer | it's shaking* |
23:52.28 | AdmiralPanda | Fordanta - Bro, we're taller than you |
23:52.41 | AdmiralPanda | Tybusen: Where does knife head come from? |
23:52.50 | dromlexer | Is this? |
23:52.51 | dromlexer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Fordanta |
23:53.10 | Tybusen | The TIAF thinks the Fordanta are obssessed with swords, knife is a diminiuitive of sword |
23:53.11 | Monet | Draconis - Yeah but 14 meter wingspan |
23:53.35 | Wormy_ | Grimbies are supposed to be superstrong and tough but they don't look it lol |
23:54.03 | Wormy_ | Oh well, it sucks to bge anyone who under estmates them, thats all I can say |
23:54.17 | Tybusen | Coming up with insults actually requires a bit of knowledge about the target species |
23:54.23 | dromlexer | The fordanta being without a preview image is quite hard for me to find a fitting insult. |
23:54.41 | Tybusen | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Fordan_Empire There's an image here |
23:55.11 | dromlexer | Hmmm. |
23:55.35 | AdmiralPanda | an old image, they no longer have the second set of arms |
23:55.59 | dromlexer | Monet: Can I quote my race's insult on Draconis? Even they don't know each otehr. |
23:56.14 | AdmiralPanda | Tybusen: That makes sense somewhat, in fact I'd say that'd be more insulting because it's like saying the only thing the Fordanta think about is war, which is a HUGE oversimplification |
23:57.01 | Monet | dromlexer: I'm not stopping you. Most people insult their snobiness in quotes tbh |
23:58.25 | OluapPlayer | Our fictions insult each other on a daily basis |
23:58.36 | OluapPlayer | I know that because I do it a lot hur |
23:59.46 | dromlexer | Well. I have no noteable person to highlight with, I'd just put "Aemonkian Insult". |