IRC log for #sporewiki on 20131208

00:00.03XhoGreybeards still weren't happy so I removed their essential status with console commands and slaughtered them all
00:00.28OluapPlayertroll
00:01.04OluapPlayerSpeaking of trolls, I killed a frost troll really easily on my way to the Auriel's Bow. Considering it was the first frost troll I've met since the one you find on the way to the Greybeards, it felt gud
00:01.35AngrybirdsI ended up just riding past it on a horse because I kept dying in two seconds. xD
00:01.57AngrybirdsThen I rode off the next cliff by accident and had to do it again >.<
00:01.57OluapPlayerI'm pretty sure you're supposed to do that
00:02.02OluapPlayerhur
00:02.15OluapPlayerI tried to fight that troll and all I could do was scratch damage to it
00:02.30XhoTroll - C-COMBO BREAKER *smash*
00:02.45AngrybirdsI walked into a bunch of ruins a long while later and was assaulted by a good twenty frost trolls.
00:02.59OluapPlayerJesus
00:03.18Angrybirds*equips flame spells and CALLS IN A DRAGON*
00:03.19OluapPlayerI wanna get the full fire breath shout just so I can see what it looks like
00:03.30XhoThere's speculation that Sheogorath in Skyrim is the protagonist character from Oblivion
00:03.42OluapPlayerI read about that
00:03.55OluapPlayerOne of Oblivion's DLCs ending with you becoming Sheogorath or something like that
00:04.23Xhoyup
00:04.34XhoIt's sort of referred to in Skyrim as well
00:04.38Xho"You know, I was there for that whole sordid affair. Marvelous times! Butterflies, blood, a Fox and severed head... Oh, and the cheese! To die for."
00:05.35OluapPlayerPrerequisites to be Sheogorath = 1) like cheese
00:05.47XhoPretty much
00:05.56XhoI would just get Oblivion just to play Shivering Isles
00:06.08XhoOr Oblivion in general
00:06.17XhoI'm not sure whether I liked Oblivion or Skyrim more
00:06.28OluapPlayerI laughed when I found out you're supposed to eat ingredient items to find out what they do
00:06.31TybusenDoes that mean Santorakh is Sheogorath
00:06.40OluapPlayerI could just imagine the Dragonborn shoving a bunch of harmful crap on his mouth at high speed
00:06.46Xhohur
00:07.05OluapPlayerWait that came out wrong
00:07.45OluapPlayerI also came across a dragon fighting a giant
00:07.51OluapPlayerThe giant killed the dragon by slapping it a few times
00:07.58Xho"#nope"
00:08.18XhoI dunno whether the glitch still happens where a giant kills you and you get launched into the sky
00:08.29XhoMy character is too powerful to die now hur
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00:08.40OluapPlayerLiterally 2 minutes after I found another dragon, battled it, and after I killed it, I looked around just to find the same giant staring at me and scratching his back
00:09.00Xhogiunts
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00:09.21OluapPlayerGiant's watching like "im not doin dis shit again"
00:09.58Xhohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9HW7jqyICc
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00:10.12OluapPlayerAt one occasion when I went to Fort Dawnguard, vampires attacked and the Dawnguard soldiers were fighting them
00:10.28OluapPlayerI must have killed a soldier by accident because they eventually became hostile to me as well
00:10.34XhoOh that's not the right video
00:10.42OluapPlayerI was like "is this how the game is supposed to be"
00:10.43Xhohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3hL07Kcvg This one
00:11.02XhoSkyrim's gameplay rarely makes sense
00:11.36OluapPlayerGiant - HOMERUN
00:12.09OluapPlayerI've never fought a giant in my game
00:12.13OluapPlayerClosest was a frost giant
00:12.42XhoNot sure if I have ever fought a frost giant
00:13.09OluapPlayerI found it on the Auriel's Bow quest on a secret room
00:13.22Tek0516DroidSkyrim seems like a good game, though I have no interest.
00:13.40OluapPlayerThe battle was summed by me walking around a pillar waiting for my fire breath shouts to recharge
00:15.05OluapPlayerThere was another time I was on a dungeon trying to hit falmers, suddenly I get a death animation playing and then the Dragonborn decapitates Lydia
00:15.14OluapPlayerThat escalated quickly
00:15.34Tek0516DroidO.o
00:16.27Xhohur
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00:37.16Xhohttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/552998_10202611299913858_426182010_n.jpg Agent philosophy
00:37.36OluapPlayerhur
00:55.50Liquid_Inksets fire to everybody
01:00.32TechnobliteratorWill you guys be online at about 3:00 or so tomorrow?
01:00.41MonetProbably
01:00.45Technobliteratorand Oluap, well, idk what the equivalent time in brazil is
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01:02.01MonetOnly the Penguin could ship military-grade technology into a maximum-security prison.
01:02.22Liquid_InkBrazil is three hours behind the UK
01:02.44MonetWait ship? I meant smuggle
01:02.47Liquid_InkThe Eastern half of it, anyway. Which I presume is where Oluap lives.
01:04.17MonetAnd out of all the ruins in Arkham City, that fat little runt manages to take over the most baroque building there.
01:04.24OluapPlayerIf I'm not rping fantasyverse stuff, yes
01:06.23Liquid_InkTHat is not taking into account daylight savings
01:06.29Liquid_InkDaylight savings sickens me
01:06.45Tek0516DroidDaylight savings is obsolete.
01:07.44Technobliteratorarkham city is fucking amazingf
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01:10.32MonetAlso I came to an epiphany regarding Batman's opponents.
01:12.03MonetWhite-collar crime seems really out-of-favour when you consider half the villains' backgrounds
01:12.42Hachi__cuddles OluapPlayer
01:12.44Hachi__bak
01:13.08OluapPlayerkicks Hachi__
01:13.10OluapPlayerdam u
01:13.19OluapPlayery u no available when i need u
01:13.29Hachi__My nap was longer than expected
01:13.55MonetMr. Freeze, Penguin, Harley Quinn, Black Mask, Poison Ivy, Scarecrow and two-face all likely had a university-level education.
01:15.29OluapPlayeri will kil u
01:15.44OluapPlayerAt elast I could use the opportunity to start watching Watamote
01:15.59OluapPlayerThis anime fills me with too many different emotions
01:16.05MonetOut of all those, only Penguin seems inclined to commit any kind of white-collar crime.
01:16.20MonetNot sure about two-face
01:19.19MonetMost seem ot prefer murder, arson, sabotage, vandalism, domestic terrorism, robbery, breaking-and-entering and all manner of unethical experiments.
01:20.13Monettl;dr: Gotham's educated elite appear to have ha habit of endeing up really fucked-up.
01:20.40Hachi__hur
01:20.54Hachi__Last time I recall Joker wasn't an educated elite
01:21.10OluapPlayerThe hell
01:21.19OluapPlayerThe game says I have vampire powers
01:21.26OluapPlayerBut I never asked to be a vampire
01:21.29OluapPlayery dis
01:22.01Hachi__Probably got them by accident
01:22.23OluapPlayerThat confuses and angers me
01:22.27OluapPlayerHow do I get rid of them hur
01:22.32MonetWhenever you fight vampires in melee, there is a constant chance of them biting you
01:23.23MonetYou should always carry antivenom (I think that's the stuff) when vighting vampires.
01:23.33Monetfighting*
01:23.59MonetHachi__: I think Joker's past is largely a mystery
01:24.12OluapPlayerI do have a potion to cure all diseases
01:24.15OluapPlayerTwo of them in fact
01:24.36OluapPlayerBut is it too late for that or would it still work? my screen kinda flashed red
01:25.47Hachi__Hmm
01:26.00Hachi__I'd say it wouldn't be too late to try
01:26.50MonetResearching the matter, that red flash is the indication the disease has surfaced. COngratulations you are now a vampire
01:26.58OluapPlayerFuck
01:27.04OluapPlayerI don't wanna be a vampire
01:27.07Hachi__http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Vampirism_%28Skyrim%29#Curing_vampirism rite here
01:27.11Hachi__u sparkley
01:27.59OluapPlayer"Becoming a Werewolf cures Vampirism"
01:28.00OluapPlayerOh good
01:28.08OluapPlayerI was planning to become a werewolf anyway hur
01:28.20MonetJoin the pack
01:28.22Hachi__Yeah but be careful
01:28.37Hachi__Stage 4 vampires are usually automatically seen as hostile by NPCs
01:29.24OluapPlayerWell no one is hostile to me yet
01:29.33Hachi__Gud, you have a chance
01:31.29MonetActually in Penguin's case I wonder if he does have a university education
01:32.06MonetHalfway though his studies his family went bankrupt and he turned to crime in London to make ends meet.
01:32.35Hachi__Ohgod you are very unlucky Oluap
01:32.42Hachi__An Argonian and you contracted disease
01:33.01MonetSo either he dropped out of education or he kept up his studies while also sursuing a life of crime
01:33.04OluapPlayerSo much for lizard genes
01:38.14MonetIf I was to guess, i'd say that a highly-educated individual in Gotham is most at risk of becoming a threat if they are either a doctor of psychology or work with the experimental sciences.
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01:40.37Monet...And my BTEC include the subjects of psychology, genetics and microbiology.
01:40.44Monetincluded*
01:41.06Hachi__olol
01:41.17MonetWith a teeny hint of quantum physics.
01:41.22Hachi__"Arkham here I come!"
01:42.57Monethttp://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130713182708/spore/images/d/d8/Furia_Ex_Deus.png considering I made this, yeah I might be due a cell ar Arkham within a few years
01:45.48MonetI recently hypothesised that there's a sliding scale of conformity and individuality.
01:46.33MonetWhich I think also could possibly tie with levels of creativity.
01:48.14Monet...fak
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01:54.31MonetI'm just glad that in theory places like Arkham are not only outdated, but possibly in violation of human rights.
01:54.41DrodoEmpirehey, everyone.
01:55.06Hachi__Well in the Cthulhu Mythos Arkham is legally intended to be something like that
01:55.17OluapPlayerWell
01:55.29OluapPlayerA mammoth feel from the sky
01:55.31OluapPlayerfell even
01:55.46Hachi__One giant is having a bad day, it seems
01:57.05Hachi__"fucking ELEPHANT" *slam*
01:57.13OluapPlayerhur
02:01.04Hachi__Hm
02:01.05Hachi__I feel like making my own version of Hachi in Spore
02:01.09Hachi__Just as an experiment
02:05.30MonetI say go for it
02:07.52MonetLooking at Tv Tropes there seem to be two primary sources of the "sinister insane asylum" trope
02:08.18MonetBedlam Royal Hospital and the Arkham Hachi mentioned
02:08.45MonetI can only describe the Tudor Bedlam as "a prizon for crazy people"
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02:10.25Hachi__I feel the stereotype for asylums being evil places is kinda outdated
02:10.27MonetThen again that period also had the debtor's prison; a place you would be sent to if you couldn't pay off any debts you had
02:10.32Hachi__Has anybody ever been to a modern asylum?
02:11.25MonetHachi__: Can't say I have, but I agree.
02:12.44MonetPlaces like Bedlam and the two Arkhams had methodologies deeply rooted in a time where insanity was a condition that was next do impossible to understand.
02:13.52MonetSo rather than attempt to cure them, the best they could do was lock them up and try to keep them out of modern society.
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02:14.08Monetout of normal society*
02:14.53Tybusenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVCzdpagXOQ Look, an official sequel to Friday
02:15.20DrodoEmpireOh dear.
02:15.30TybusenIt's actually surprisingly not as bad
02:15.41TybusenIt makes a lot of fun of the original Friday
02:16.06DrodoEmpireI see.
02:16.14DrodoEmpireI could tell from the first bit.
02:23.54Wormy_fic"Just gonna find my pants"
02:24.07Wormy_ficI laugh whenever I hear Americans say that about paints
02:24.10Wormy_ficpants
02:24.23Wormy_ficSince they mean underwear in the UK
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02:25.19Wormy_ficYou might get away with walking out the house with pants by accident in America, but not here lol
02:25.33Wormy_ficHowdyho
02:25.54CatfaceHi.
02:26.44DrodoEmpireHmm...
02:27.07DrodoEmpireI wonder what some of the SW fictions would be as civs on Civilization V.
02:30.18Wormy_fic*without
02:36.31MonetJennifer Hale, who was in both TAS and Unlimited, reprises her roles in both series as, respectively, Black Cat and Mary Jane in the first game,
02:36.40MonetSpiderman stuff
02:37.23MonetJennifer FemShep Hale voiced Black Cat in the Spiderman 90s cartoon and the ps1 game
02:39.13Hachi__ech wish there was convincing fur in Dark Injection
02:39.20Hachi__Or fur at all hur
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02:41.06Monet"Spider-Man: A-ha! I knew we had something in common besides our love of tights! You're into old movies too, huh? | Batman: I was - when I was young | Spider-Man: Young? Somehow, I can't picture you ever being young! You must've been pretty cute, waddling around in your diapers, chasing the Joker across the playground!"
02:41.38MonetThis. This is why I loved spiderman so much.
02:41.43Hachi__hur
02:42.22MonetI remember in the PS1 game Spider-Man 2 one of his lines against Shocker was "Oh please, don'ttake my lunch-money!"
02:49.07WormyHachi__ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtS2Ikk7A9I
02:54.22MonetIt feels like a double-standard that I adored Spider-man for his frankly groan-worthy sense of humour.
02:54.37Hachi__olol
02:54.46MonetYet well...Me and the Kraw Galaxy.
02:55.22WormyHach:  Ohgodlol http://youtu.be/o6DXz0MZP0E?t=2m47s
02:56.06CatfaceWormy: We should do fiction sometime.
02:57.04WormyOf course
02:57.19WormyAs I say, you could join Sttion Halcyon if you want
03:04.24Monethttp://www.the-isb.com/images/JJJZilla2.jpg Damn JJ!
03:04.53MonetSOmetimes his angry rants border on flat-out lunacy
03:07.46MonetUnderstanding when something is intended to be serious or not seems to have a wierd effect on how events in a story, or the story itself, are percieved
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03:11.53Hachi__ech dumputer
03:18.02Hachi__http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HachiLotGVersion.png So I experimented a little
03:19.20Wormylooks more beasty
03:19.41Hachi__Tried to make him look more rabbit
03:20.20TybusenLooks a little Bugs Bunny-ish there
03:20.31Hachi__http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121111194705/spore/images/5/57/Hachiman_the_Rabbit.png vs http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HachiLotGVersion.png
03:20.33Hachi__Dunno if my version looks better or not
03:21.36Hachi__The former looks more cute and human, the latter looks more mature and animal
03:22.20Hachi__Looks better in the editor admittedly
03:22.54WormyThe other one could be Mature Hachi
03:26.42TybusenThe latter one fits a mature Hachi, but my only complaint would be that his face makes him look like a muscular robotic Bugs Bunny
03:27.51WormyAny anthropomorphic rabbit with more rabbit like characteristics will look like Bugs Bunny
03:27.57Wormyanyway, bye
03:30.25Aeohttp://newsfeed.time.com/2013/11/29/rich-tourists-now-staying-in-luxury-shanty-towns-so-they-can-pretend-to-be-poor/
03:31.45TybusenI saw Stephen Colbert report on that
03:31.54TybusenThe vanity of rich people just sometimes cannot be satisfied
03:31.56Hachi__That makes me physically ill
03:33.12DrodoEmpireWhat a fuckin' stupid idea that is.
03:33.14DrodoEmpire:P
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04:37.46TekDroidDamn,  I was in the middle of a game and it shut down. Not crashed, just... shut diwn.
04:37.51TekDroid*down
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04:57.58DrodoEmpireSo I found this song in a YTP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85ftfVUTzM4
04:58.08DrodoEmpireI'm glad I did. :3
04:58.25DrodoEmpire*first found
05:02.06DrodoEmpireWell, I gotta go. Its late.
05:02.11DrodoEmpirebye, everyone.
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05:25.13AdmiralPandahello all
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06:22.16Hachi__hai Imp
06:35.36ImperiosHai
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07:41.43Hachi__So my ex is talking to me about how she doesn't like snakes and says that they have two penises
07:41.44Hachi__I told her that they aren't penises but she doesn't believe me
07:41.54Hachi__I'm like "Bitch I know about animal dick"
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07:50.48Imperios_Hachi has Hachigirlfriends apparently
07:51.19Liquid_InkYey
07:53.02Hachi__http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HachiLotGVersion.png watchu think of dis
07:53.07Hachi__Just experimenting
07:54.27Imperios_Dem buck teeth
07:55.11Hachi__Made him look more Rianth
07:56.33Imperios_Fix the buckteeth and make him look younger-ish
07:56.36Imperios_And he'll be perfct
07:57.11Hachi__Any tips on how to do that?
07:57.17Hachi__As in the younger part
08:01.32Imperios_Try to give him hair
08:01.57Imperios_and find a different eye type perhaps
08:02.31Hachi__As in the robotic eye?
08:02.50Imperios_Both his robotic eye and his normal eye
08:05.16Hachi__Any suggestions?
08:07.24Imperios_Try the larger round eyes from core Spore
08:19.17Hachi__How much hair should I give him?
08:24.24Hachi__And like, what sorta hair
08:34.45Imperios_Hm
08:34.49Imperios_You could give him a queue
08:35.05Imperios_http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/ec/Imperial_Hachi.png speaking of which
08:35.41Hachi__wut dat
08:36.11Imperios_My attempt to make Hachi
08:36.17Imperios_Imperial as in Imperios
08:36.34Hachi__Nice, I like it
08:36.38Imperios_I gave him a sashimono
08:36.47Hachi__The sashimono looks clever
08:38.27Imperios_In case I ever draw him, I'll add the 屌 symbol to it
08:38.28Imperios_
08:39.20Hachi__http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HachiLotGVersion.png rite, F5 if it's not updated
08:39.35Imperios_Better yet, 置我嘅屌
08:39.39Imperios_Put that into Google Translate
08:39.51Hachi__Is that Japanese for wiener
08:40.17Imperios_Chinese, because Chinese symbols look more classy
08:40.41Hachi__rite
08:40.50Hachi__Also c updated pikshur
08:41.02Hachi__I gave him hair, changed his eyes and gave him a sword hur
08:41.16Imperios_Wow, now he looks cool
08:41.44Hachi__I might just use that design for his canon appearance actually hur
08:41.57Hachi__Depends what others think hur
08:42.10Hachi__I myself feel like my design looks more mature than Xho's one hur
08:43.56Hachi__http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121111194705/spore/images/5/57/Hachiman_the_Rabbit.png vs http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HachiLotGVersion.png
08:43.59Hachi__Like, compare
08:44.53Imperios_Yours look more human  and mature, ya
08:45.54Hachi__I could integrate both appearances into canon actually
08:45.56Hachi__Xho's version is younger Hachi
08:45.57Hachi__Mine is late teenaged-young adult Hachi hur
08:46.34Hachi__Also funny how you say mine looks more human, considering his leg structure and face hur
09:02.18AdmiralPandahello all
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09:10.42Hachi__hai Panda
09:12.34Hachi__AdmiralPanda: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HachiLotGVersion.png watchu fink
09:13.11AdmiralPandadis
09:13.16AdmiralPandais a gud dis
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09:20.32GhelHello.
09:21.14Hachi__hai GD
09:21.20Hachi__GD12: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HachiLotGVersion.png look at dis
09:23.39AdmiralPandalel
09:50.52Hachi__So I listened to Rebecca Black's new song, Saturday
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09:51.05Hachi__Not as bad as Friday but still absolutely horrendous
09:51.07Hachi__hai again Imp
09:51.38Imperios_Hachi__: http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f5/Ammanori_Humans.png http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/4f/Alhassan_Humans.png  http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6e/Mannazian_Humans.png http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1e/Saphronian_Humans.png HUMIES
09:51.45Hachi__Just saw the humans you uploaded
09:51.49Hachi__oh wow dat timing
09:52.05Hachi__They all look great
09:52.10Hachi__Especially dem alhassans
09:52.45Imperios_Mushroom hats are in vogue these days
09:54.01Hachi__Shroom is the new black
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10:01.13Hachi__ohai
10:01.21HachiHomeworkohai
10:01.55HachiHomeworkBTW guys if you wanna PM me, PM this one
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10:20.40HachiHomeworkhai u
10:21.00OluapPlayerohi
10:21.05HachiHomeworkOluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HachiLotGVersion.png chek dis
10:21.13OluapPlayerI see dis
10:21.17OluapPlayerIs a gud dis
10:21.33HachiHomeworkI'm wondering if I should make that Hachi's new look
10:21.43HachiHomeworkHis old one I would just say was him when he was younger hur
10:23.14HachiHomeworkI personally feel this makes him look more mature
10:23.45OluapPlayerIt does yes
10:24.48OluapPlayerAlso why is there two of you
10:25.11HachiHomeworkUsing two computers
10:25.45HachiHomeworkThis one is for homework
10:25.49Hachi__And this one is for other stuff! :D
10:29.41OluapPlayeryucky smiling face
10:29.50Hachi__D:
10:30.14Imperios_Also
10:30.15Imperios_http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f5/Ammanori_Humans.png http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/4f/Alhassan_Humans.png  http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6e/Mannazian_Humans.png http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1e/Saphronian_Humans.png HUMIES
10:32.05OluapPlayerdum squad
10:37.39HachiHomeworkI kinda want to work on Future Hachi but homework
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11:01.42OluapPlayerspu
11:02.39HachiHomeworkups
11:02.55HachiHomeworkXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HachiLotGVersion.png new hacho model
11:03.19Xhohercher
11:03.28XhoQuite an improvement
11:03.44Imperios_Xhu
11:03.56Imperios_Xho: http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f5/Ammanori_Humans.png http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/4f/Alhassan_Humans.png  http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6e/Mannazian_Humans.png http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1e/Saphronian_Humans.png HUMIES
11:04.14Xhoew humies
11:04.27XhoI might use the human model and edit Pelagrios with that
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11:05.42Liquid_InkHello
11:05.43HachiHomeworkhai
11:05.46Imperios_Hai
11:05.48MonetHallo
11:05.53Imperios_Monet:  http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f5/Ammanori_Humans.png http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/4f/Alhassan_Humans.png  http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6e/Mannazian_Humans.png http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1e/Saphronian_Humans.png HUMIES
11:06.05MonetSaw those.
11:06.09HachiHomeworkXho: I'll credit your Hachi model as his younger appearance
11:06.18Xhobetta do
11:06.45MonetMannazian Humans look fancy
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11:10.15OluapPlayerOk so I just looted this hagraven's head as part of a mission
11:10.26OluapPlayerNow her decapitated body is locked on a T-pose
11:10.52HachiHomeworkolol
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11:11.29JepardiHi
11:11.31XhoI don't even think I have done that quest yet hur
11:11.32XhoHi
11:16.01OluapPlayerhttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202017429 look at dis shi
11:16.28Xho"Fuck this shit"
11:22.45Xhohttps://vine.co/v/hIhTzexFgAV And this guy is only 5'8
11:23.34Hachi__That's impressive
11:24.23MonetI wonder if there will be a basketball player so tall he doesn't have to jump to get it in the basket.
11:24.31MonetOne day
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11:25.06Technobliteratorhii
11:25.06Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aldra started!
11:25.09GhelHello.
11:25.14Technobliteratoroh hey
11:25.24MonetHi
11:25.26Technobliteratorwho's up for rping later?
11:25.44Hachi__Possibly me
11:25.49Hachi__Depending on homework status
11:26.07OluapPlayerFine
11:26.23Hachi__Technobliterator: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HachiLotGVersion.png chek dis
11:26.25OluapPlayerWanna get this done so I can go back to my own stuff
11:26.42TechnobliteratorI want to get this done for similar reasons
11:28.56Hachi__Hmm I wonder how old Hachi would be now
11:29.23Hachi__I was never really firm on his age
11:29.42Hachi__As of his new appearance, I might say between 17-19
11:29.52Imperios_Barely legal for Sarec/Mirrorvera/whoever
11:29.58Hachi__hur
11:30.11Hachi__I'd say 17 then
11:30.30Imperios_http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/ae/Sovereign_Flameguard.png Also I tried these Dark Injection effects
11:30.34Hachi__What's the current Sporewiki year?
11:30.45Hachi__geezush
11:30.52Imperios_New Outworld skeleton type
11:31.01MonetBloody-hell-and-a-half
11:31.23OluapPlayerThrow a water bucket at it
11:31.24Xhoshiarchon - fuk
11:31.25MonetI think the date is either 2797 ir 2798.
11:31.35XhoI don't know the date now
11:31.40XhoI think it's late 2798
11:31.55MonetALmost to the new century people.
11:31.57Technobliterator#MassArmageddonStoof
11:31.58Imperios_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Outworld_Architecture.png And that may be how Kimorgos looked like
11:32.04Hachi__Hey you said later
11:32.12TechnobliteratorI did
11:32.22XhoThis is not my perception of later
11:32.23Technobliteratorjust get in the channel and we can start later
11:32.29Imperios_Dammit
11:32.32Imperios_The picture's messed up
11:32.40Imperios_The creature was supposed to be a statue
11:32.54TechnobliteratorGhel: I was taking over Mazipnos a bit but you can join in too
11:33.03XhoGreat now I have to make Void Guardians just to make up for the fact that Imperios has an impressive creature
11:33.09Xhoso much angri
11:33.15TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer Monet git
11:33.19OluapPlayerThat's a really stupid reason
11:33.22OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: shut your face
11:33.26XhoI was joking u dum
11:36.07Monethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiHDmyhE1A the first ever video game music piece to win a Grammy
11:37.51Hachi__deservs razzy
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11:45.10Imperios_Ngh
11:45.18Imperios_How should I describe the Outworld's government structure
11:45.43OluapPlayerMagocracy
11:45.52Imperios_Could work
11:48.58OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/qiJ4OfY.jpg
11:49.56Hachi__olol
11:52.01MonetOKay I feel wierded out
11:52.05Hachi__Somebody gimme a quote for the top of Hachi's page
11:52.22OluapPlayer"WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIENER"
11:52.26Monet(my wirding out has nothing to do with the link)
11:53.25OluapPlayerIt's funnier if I think it was hur
11:54.06MonetHachi__: "He may be young, but his heart burns bright with energy and potential. May he never let it fade" - Sarec
11:56.13Imperios_Hachi__: "A rising legend. Passionate, young, noble. Destiny awaits."
11:56.24Hachi__rite
11:56.29Imperios_I don't like weeaboos but I make haikus
11:56.32Imperios_what da fuk is wrong with me
11:56.49OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/uaEFfHe.jpg
11:56.56Imperios_*young and noble
11:56.59Hachi__olol
11:57.02OluapPlayerYou keep using that word
11:57.07MonetHaikus are fun though
11:57.47Imperios_They definitely are/Although they are hard to make/I kinda like them
11:57.56Hachi__olol
11:57.58Hachi__Clever
11:58.56XhoOluapPlayer: Kithworto and the Tantum team
11:59.13OluapPlayerhttp://u.cubeupload.com/Paramud/mTJjue.gif Oh Dilbert
12:06.22MonetHmm trying to make Alcanti have an alie natmosphere but donno what to use instead of nitrogen
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12:16.09MonetAlso if I remember chemistry right, oxygen is needed by humans because it serves as a reciever compound for respiration.
12:16.45GhelYes. Oxygen is the final electron acceptor in aerobic respiration.
12:18.06MonetSo theoretically, an alien lifeform that lives via aerobic respiration could evolve to live with any gas that can combine with oxygen.
12:19.28GhelIf by "combine" you mean "chemically react", then you want gases in the air that *don't* combine with oxygen.
12:19.44MonetSorry I meant hydrogen
12:19.58MonetI've got three thought processes going on at once
12:21.30GhelThere are forms of anaerobic respiration that use other terminal electron acceptors (by definition, it's only aerobic if it uses oxygen), but they're just not as good, which is why nearly all complex life on Earth is aerobic.
12:22.13MonetLooking at the periodic table, the options for gases is a little limited: Oxygen, Nitrogen and the halogens.
12:22.27MonetSpecifically chlorine and flourine
12:23.27GhelNitrogen isn't good as a respiratory gas, as its triple bond makes it highly inert, and halogens are too rare in the universe to make up a significant proportion of planetary atmospheres. However, in a reducing environment, you could have hydrogen-breathing organisms.
12:25.16GhelCarbon-based organisms would produce methane as a waste gas. Typical solvents, instead of water, would be ammonia or hydrocarbons.
12:26.43MonetWait...this conversation took a wierd u-turn somewhere
12:27.06MonetIt's nice speculation, but I just realised what i'm really after is a nitrogen alternative for an alien atmosphere
12:32.01GhelNitrogen is so common in the universe, if you're looking to make a more alien atmosphere, you shoud focus on the other gases.
12:33.33MonetRight. So far the Alcanti atmospheric compound that is different ot earth is the concentration of neon being similar to Earth's concentration of Argon.
12:34.32Imperios_Glowycanti
12:36.58GhelThat could work. Also change around some compounds, e.g. increase the proportion of H2S.
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12:42.20GhelActually, the problem with neon is that it's so light and unreactive that, like helium and even hydrogen, it tends to escape planetary atmospheres very easily.
12:43.10MonetIsn't Argon even lighter?
12:43.20GhelNo, argon's heavier.
12:43.44GhelSo it's rarer overall, but it's more likely to stay within an atmosphere.
12:44.09MonetOkay how about krypton?
12:44.20GhelWhen it comes to alien atmospheres, if you've already decided between oxidising and reducing, it's the proportions of compounds that are going to make the difference.
12:44.50MonetRight now that stands at 74% nitrogen 31% Oxygen, 2% [still deciding], 1% other
12:45.41GhelThere could be more krypton in Alcanti's atmosphere than on Earth, but it'd still be in trace amounts. You could also do with some CO2 in there as well.
12:46.03MonetThat would be part of the 1% other I think
12:46.09Hachi__"Aliens."
12:46.38MonetRight now I recall Earth's CO2 levels are about 0.6%, right?
12:46.57GhelSomething like that, I think. I'll just check.
12:47.39GhelAdd another zero.
12:47.55Monet0.06?
12:48.20MonetSo around 600pm. That makes more sense now
12:48.29GhelThat's the right order of magnitude, although I think it's more like 0.04%. Of course, it's effects are significant, so it's not just the volume that maks gases important.
12:48.44MonetGiven the Draconis have the technology and understanding to minimise their carbon footprint.
12:48.48GhelJust like how all of the argon in Earth's atmosphere isn't really important because it doesn't react with anything.
12:49.00MonetCO2 levels in their atmospheres could be lower
12:49.22GhelUnless Alcanti naturally has a higher amount of CO2.
12:49.46GhelIt could be further away from its sun and therefore need more greenhouse gases to keep it warm, for example.
12:50.10MonetIt is further away, but Aldra is also slightly hotter
12:50.18Monetbrighter, whichever
12:51.10GhelOr both.
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12:56.29Wormyhello
12:57.16GhelHello.
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13:13.47LawfulInsaneHello.
13:14.05GhelHello.
13:37.19Xhohttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1476447_10151834709906305_478211923_n.jpg heh
13:39.22MonetWell it's official
13:39.44MonetI jsut saw a youtube advert that was none other than the CocaCola chrristmas advert.
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13:40.10Xhodem christmas feels
13:41.10XhoRight so things to do
13:41.15XhoCreate Void Guardians is the main thing
13:50.32Hachi__OluapPlayer: Hachi needs nu Controlled Angel Form
13:51.00OluapPlayerHachi__: later
13:51.04OluapPlayerNow get reggie to rp
13:51.07Hachi__ech fien
13:51.15OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/bhZ1eX3.png
13:52.01Hachi__ohgodlol
13:52.08Imperios_https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J_2nfVFbb1k/UGWyKJX9iOI/AAAAAAAAK0E/HNeS5H_qBTY/w506-h347/A34L60-CcAEsrCa.jpg-large
13:53.59OluapPlayerImperios_ Xho: can you rp fantasyverse now?
13:54.10XhoI was about to go on Spore but I will wait
13:54.32Imperios_It is possible
13:54.39OluapPlayer#InfernosMonsStoof git
14:02.37WormyI wonder, does anything in real life have automated self-destruct
14:02.55WormyThe closest I can find is the practise of scuttling a ship
14:03.49MonetNot sure
14:04.22MonetBTW I'm thinking I could bump Alcanti's population from 24bln to 36bln. Maybe 30% of that are living in orbit.
14:05.26GhelThe real-life section of http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SelfDestructMechanism mentions a couple of things.
14:08.41WormyI see
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14:11.27dino__helowz
14:11.29MonetHi dino
14:11.31dino__how is all doing?
14:11.54WormyDoing okay
14:12.52GhelHello.
14:16.51MonetI'm finding it rather fun finding ways to explain how so many can inhabit Alcanti without resorting to using continent-spanning metropoli.
14:18.25dino__Great to hear!!!
14:18.29dino__Did I miss anything on the wiki???
14:18.49WormyThis is still unfinished, but I've been writing this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Scrapbook#The_Drunken_Cloud
14:19.11Hachi__dino__: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HachiLotGVersion.png I updated Hachi
14:19.11WormyIts developed so far
14:21.22dino__@Wormy"Gong to read!
14:21.29dino__@Hachi: Oh my!!!!!!! He looks awesome!
14:23.02dino__@Wormy: Oh interessting@
14:23.48WormyI'm looking forward to introducing the "Kaluzatrophs", hypermatter life
14:24.49WormyIn fact they are something other than life
14:25.36WormyLife-like, but able to break apparent laws of the universe
14:26.31dino__nice
14:29.01dino__I am noticing that lately this week there isn't much updates to stories?
14:29.48Hachi__tis a boring week
14:30.08WormyI can only write on weekends atm
14:30.31WormyTybusen has made an update to the Station Halcyon preview
14:30.56WormyAnd there's been work on Koldenwelt
14:35.37dino__oh that explains things!
14:45.12OluapPlayerhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/936574_441354835964532_275534094_n.png
14:50.56Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aldra Here's Aldra so far
14:53.25MonetI still need to fill out the planets beyond Alcanti.
14:54.43MonetAny possible feedback so far?
14:57.02MonetOluapPlayer: I think that's a reference ot the film "The Killer Tomatoes Eat France"
14:57.27OluapPlayerThat's one weird name for a film
14:58.29MonetIt happens to be a sequel to "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes"
14:59.22Hachi__Shingeki no Tomato
14:59.39Xhogeezush
15:00.23MonetThe basic premise is that something goes wrong in a genetics lab and a batch of tomatoes grow to unnatural sizes nd start killing and eating people.
15:00.42OluapPlayerTomatoes vs Baguettes
15:01.55Hachi__Cue to tomatoes vs baguettes vs onions in the sequel
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15:03.13CyrannianHello!
15:04.02MonetHello
15:04.36MonetKiller Tomatoes Eat France Again
15:04.44dino__hello
15:07.36Hachi__Wormy: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HachiLotGVersion.png Not Bugs Bunny anymore hur
15:07.58Hachi__Which reminds me
15:07.59Hachi__What do you guys like most and like least about Hachi's new appearance?
15:08.33OluapPlayerI like his arm
15:08.40OluapPlayerBut I'm really a fan of his hair
15:08.42OluapPlayerIt looks girly hur
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15:10.24MonetI adore his face.
15:12.07MonetHis left shoulder looks a bit wierd though. It looks like its smaller than hsi right one
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15:13.36OluapPlayergit bak to rp chot
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15:29.25CyrannianI'm going to rewrite the Battle of Orbispira and add new details to help explain why Antediluvian ascended to the throne of the Republic so easily.
15:31.25WormyCyrannian:  I thought we could discuss Station Halcyon with Tybusen later if we are all on
15:31.33WormyAnd hello
15:32.05WormyYes its much better version, Hachi__
15:32.13Wormybrvb
15:32.15Wormybrb
15:32.25CyrannianSUre
15:51.09Monethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUtziaZlDeE the nostalgia...
15:53.07Imperios_Monet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7EOQkWvOls that's more nostalgic for me
15:53.20MonetSame
15:53.27Imperios_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXgX4n1iP0c And that
15:53.46MonetBut I fondly remember the 60s tune even though it was about 30 years before my time
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15:54.11Wormyback
15:55.50Imperios_The 1990 series had a really good plot
15:55.56Imperios_And interesting characters
15:56.11Imperios_I liked Carnage (sorta)
15:56.13Imperios_He was kinda creepy
15:57.20OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Inferno_Rises#The_Hateful_Guardian bam new section
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16:25.55WormyDoes someone here know much about the Haloverse, particularly, the technology of the UNSC and Covenant compared to Federation-level tech in Star Trek
16:27.28WormyForerunner tech I know more about, thanks to fanboys commenting on my comparison blogs
16:28.25WormyThough I think their achievements aren't much better than the current hypermatter revolution civs of the SporEWikiverse
16:28.42WormyAnd pitful compared to universes like The Culture
16:30.46dino__federation is considered stronger than unsc by far
16:32.29WormyI agree on that, the Feds have awesome tech
16:32.49WormyThe Covenant seem to have transwarp drives though
16:33.13dino__yeah they seem to be difficult, perhaps more on dominon level?
16:37.39MonetI think FTL tech in the Haloverse works slightly differently
16:37.59MonetI remember something about how the ship can't alter course in mid-jump.
16:43.40XhoOluapSkyrim: Made Lord Akharav and his Vampire/Void form
16:44.07OluapSkyrimShow dis
16:45.30Imperios_Wormy: Hm, what kind of names would Islanders have?
16:46.05WormyHmm
16:46.37WormyNaming characters, races and places is my worst thing
16:47.14WormyProbably names based on the Far East or names based on fictional places based on the Far East
16:48.01WormyI didn't even bother with the unamed race in the Endosymbiosis story.  I'm experimenting a story without an established species
16:50.17XhoOluapSkyrim: http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/59/LordAkharav.png dere
16:51.03OluapSkyrimeyes of ebul
16:52.53Imperios_Greydood
16:53.47XhoFor some reason the vampire form picture isn't working
16:54.51Xhohttp://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/43/AkharavVoidVampire.png There we go
16:56.51Imperios_I like his teeth
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17:05.19OfficerJackalHello!
17:06.47GhelHello.
17:09.37OluapSkyrimdat vampire
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17:10.48GhelHello.
17:11.15CyrannianHello.
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17:12.11CyrannianHas anyone been thinking about fictions they'd like to nominate this month?
17:12.25TekDroidHm...
17:12.33GhelHello.
17:12.38TekDroidHello
17:13.04XhoXhodocto
17:13.05Xhoyey
17:14.09TekDroidHaven't they already won?
17:14.26XhoYeah
17:14.30XhoNeeds moar hur
17:14.44Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Lord_Akharav Well this is as far as I have got here
17:16.05MonetBeen really busy with college work.
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17:16.50GhelHello.
17:17.04Technobliteratorhii
17:18.38CyrannianBased on the comments on the blog I set up, the current nominations are:
17:19.19CyrannianThe Lightning War and the Fall of Miperiors for featured fictions: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Lightning_War http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tasan_Crisis/Fall_of_Miperiors
17:19.26Cyrannian*featured stories
17:19.38OluapSkyrimI nominate Erissare
17:20.30CyrannianThe Elementals for featured creature: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Elemental
17:21.28CyrannianArdir Kogac and Erissare for featured captains: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ardir_Kogac http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Erissare
17:22.07Imperios_I nominate hm
17:22.10CyrannianAnd the Farengeto Republic for featured empire: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AFarengeto_Republic
17:22.35Imperios_I'd like to nominate, well
17:22.38Imperios_hm
17:23.08Imperios_Probably some fantasyverse species?
17:23.13Imperios_Like, Forgotten lands or Inferno Rises
17:23.20Imperios_*fantasyverse fictions
17:23.35MonetI nominate Pelagios.
17:24.11Imperios_Yeah, Pela's fun
17:25.19Imperios_Actually
17:25.22Imperios_I nominate Clotho
17:25.54Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:December_2013_Featured_Story_Poll - Nominate your stories here
17:25.59Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:December_2013_Featured_Captain_Poll
17:26.40Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:December_2013_Featured_Fiction_Poll http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:December_2013_Featured_Creature_Poll
17:27.01CyrannianPeople are also encouraged to state why they are voting for a particular fiction.
17:27.57MonetThis time ,I say we leave polls open for at least a day before the winner is announced
17:29.05CyrannianYes, the results will be announced tomorrow night.
17:34.52MonetI'd ask if Draconizane stuff is possible but a) Oluap's on Skyrim and b) some big rps have been done today
17:35.45OluapSkyrimI can rp
17:36.14MonetOh wait Hachi's AFK
17:36.50Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Lord_Akharav dere
17:38.15OluapSkyrimpaeg not yet dun
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17:40.54DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
17:44.08TekDroidHello
17:49.12XhoWho controls the werewolves in Koldenwelt
17:49.29OluapPlayerNot sure
17:49.33OluapPlayerThe Inatosan Wolf might
17:49.41XhoI mean user wise
17:49.55OluapPlayerNo one has a werewolf faction
17:50.25XhoHm
17:50.39Imperios_Xho: Serani has werewolves
17:50.40XhoI was thinking that Akharav could control some or at least have a pact with them
17:50.43XhoJust to really piss off Dalverat hur
17:50.44Imperios_Serani - fuk u
17:50.55OluapPlayerDalverat has werepyres
17:51.38Imperios_Serani - and when I say fuk u I mean literally *air kiss*
18:01.45OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Harkin Updated this to reflect the last section
18:03.43Imperios_OluapPlayer; I have just realised
18:04.02Imperios_By adding Exacutus's possession, you essentially brought some elements of Harkin's old personality back
18:04.12OluapPlayerYah, that was the idea
18:09.22Imperios_Also
18:09.44Imperios_You know, did it look like Javina had a crush on Clothovera while were RPing?
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18:09.58OluapPlayerNot really no
18:10.04Imperios_Oh, thanks god
18:10.19Imperios_That'd be creepy
18:10.19OluapPlayerdat wuld b pedo
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18:10.31GhelHello.
18:10.53OluapPlayerOnly line Javina said about Clothovera was "...Reprobate wench... and yet I like something in her. What is it? "
18:12.22Imperios_Speaking of which I could make Carlini in Spore
18:15.24Imperios_OluapPlayer: >Confectrix, the Destroyer is tied with the Enslaver as the third-in-power of the Lympharians and is overall the least known of the four Crystal Manifests.
18:15.25OluapPlayerhttp://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/4/40/Sf13_bcon_misc22.wav?t=20131031043904 this is what the Exacutus sounds like
18:15.26Imperios_>Confectrix
18:15.36Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Lord_Akharav dere
18:15.38Imperios_So Destroyer is a girl?
18:15.51Imperios_the "rix" suffix implies femininity
18:15.54OluapPlayerLympharians are genderless
18:16.22OluapPlayerAnd Confectrix is latim for Destroyer
18:16.24Imperios_Was the feminine suffix intended?
18:16.33Imperios_Correction: Destroyeress
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18:16.46XhoDestoryeress isn't a word hur
18:16.50OluapPlayerDestroyer  vastator, perditor, extinctor, eversor, evorsor, confectrix
18:17.04Imperios_Xho: Well a female destroyer
18:17.12XhoJust 'Destroyer' hur
18:17.18Imperios_Yep, but Confectrix is specifically a female destroyer
18:17.32XhoWell that's Latin
18:17.33XhoGenders and whatnot
18:17.49Imperios_I just take that Confect was a girl before being transformed into a crystal dood
18:18.04OluapPlayerI already said, Lympharians are genderless
18:18.13OluapPlayerAnd that wasn't Destroyer's original name
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18:19.34Xho"Lord Akharav - I vill make you scream. I vill make you squeal like ze pig you are."
18:19.37XhoAkharav - noh
18:19.51OluapPlayerDalverat - u mean oink
18:20.16XhoAkharav - u meen gghgh cuz u cant stop chokin on dik
18:20.17XhoAnd that is how they fight
18:20.18XhoJust words
18:20.24OluapPlayerhur
18:21.52XhoSo now you have a mostly nice vampire who will offer you a drink of blood and now you have an absolute douche of a vampire who will offer to drink your blood out of your severed head
18:22.29Imperios_Hm
18:22.43Imperios_You know with the whole inquisitor schtick Javina had
18:22.49Imperios_Could she cross ways with vampires a few times?
18:23.03XhoI dunno
18:23.11OluapPlayerYes
18:23.14XhoAkharav would hang her body from Akharavzund
18:23.27OluapPlayerDalverat - nu maid
18:23.33XhoWell Akharavzund's location is actually unknown to most
18:23.45XhoDalverat possibly knows
18:23.46OluapPlayerdere i quoted copycat dumbo
18:24.18Imperios_Knowing Javina
18:24.30Imperios_"cross ways" means "try to kill" in her case
18:24.52OluapPlayerJavina actually has an underground dungeon where she keeps the succubi she finds
18:25.04Imperios_For "questioning"
18:25.07XhoCaligaduro - :o wat
18:25.21Imperios_Javina - YOUR FEMALES ARE NEXT
18:25.53Imperios_Javina meeting one of the Alpha Succubi could be interesting in fact
18:26.11OluapPlayerJavina - unf
18:27.04XhoEven Kalarah calls Akharav a horrific abomination
18:27.49OluapPlayerKalarah - ur DAT much of a dik
18:28.03XhoAkharav - just cuz i hang shiarchon from mah fortress
18:28.38XhoThe problem for Kalarah is that Akharav is also an adherent to Caligaduro
18:28.46XhoBut is more savage and evil than him
18:29.29Imperios_So
18:29.32Imperios_Fantasycognito?
18:29.55XhoNot that insane though
18:30.29XhoHis children are actually neutral on the alignment scale
18:30.29Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Orbispira#Politics_and_Culture - Finished this section
18:30.38XhoProbably thinking that Akharav is extreme in his conquest
18:30.50Imperios_Quoted
18:30.54XhoOr was a bit too evil in killing Hys
18:31.02OluapPlayerI'm reminded of the Dawnguard questline now
18:31.15XhoIt's a bit like that I guess
18:31.24XhoExcept they're too afraid to say "whoa calm down"
18:32.56XhoI'm not sure of their stand on the Nightshade Clan though
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18:33.34OluapPlayeri need an opportunity to use Dalverat's true form
18:33.37XhoSecretly they might be sympathizers but if Akharav found out he'd hang them both from the fortress as well
18:33.42OluapPlayerstoof is Atrocius-strong
18:34.03XhoAkharav - fuk ur three heded dwagun fite me irl
18:34.16OluapPlayerAtrocius - WUT U SED
18:34.43XhoAkharav - u got three heds y u def
18:34.52OluapPlayerAtrocius - *nom*
18:35.00Xho"Hachi - You seem more than eager to feed my Succubi. So be it, but only vhen you're older."
18:35.04Xho"Feed"
18:35.06Xhorite
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18:35.09OluapPlayeryes
18:35.10TheBuldierHello
18:35.14GhelHello.
18:35.17OluapPlayerDalverat knows how Hachi works
18:36.31Imperios_Javina - I VOLUNTEER... not
18:36.35OluapPlayerhur
18:37.22Imperios_Just wondering
18:37.28Imperios_What accent do you think Javina has
18:37.37XhoDunno
18:37.45Imperios_Out-of-universe
18:37.49OluapPlayerI don't imagine accents on characters
18:38.11TekDroidNor do I.
18:38.58OluapPlayerI need to make Vulcanus Horde soldiers
18:39.12Imperios_How would they look like?
18:39.31Imperios_Elementals? Burning zombies?
18:39.56OluapPlayerIt varies, the Vulcanus Horde has various types of creatures in it
18:40.34OluapPlayerElementals, burning zombies, magma men, enslaved Fire Drakes
18:40.47Xhofoyor droks
18:40.54TheBuldierLots of fire
18:40.55OluapPlayerfuru druku
18:49.35Imperios_OluapPlayer: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6458514944/h41AADC5F/
18:50.40OluapPlayerI know what the line means but I don't get the picture
18:50.41OluapPlayerAlso http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b4/Vulcanus_Soldier.png
18:50.58Imperios_A dood is on fire isn't he
18:51.07Imperios_*the dood
18:51.26OluapPlayerHe is fire hur
18:51.53OluapPlayerIt's a soldier made of lava
18:57.14Monethttp://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/54/Minos_D_Skyline_Window.png I had a go at the Minos'Drakon skyline
18:57.53MonetNot as skiny as i wanted it to be due to my laptop's graphics card
18:58.24Imperios_Ш дшлу еру цштвщцы
18:58.24Imperios_I like the windows
18:59.17OluapPlayerhttp://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fe/Enslaved_Fire_Drake.png sadfaic
18:59.41TheBuldierIt looks sad
18:59.47Xho"Lol" - Caligaduro
19:00.40OluapPlayerThe armor on the wings is supposed to lock the dragon's wings in such a way he cannot move them anymore
19:00.40OluapPlayerSo he can't fly away
19:01.39Xho"nice try fgt"
19:01.50OluapPlayerIt works
19:01.51MonetOver the christmas break i'll see if I can get a better-quality picture done
19:02.10CyrannianVery impressive Monet
19:02.22OluapPlayerEven if they are freed, these drakes won't be able to fly anymore unless they get theor bones healed
19:02.24OluapPlayertheir*
19:03.15MonetPart of me wonders if its possible to have searchlights *and* the Aurora Borealis.
19:03.38MonetAugmented reality windows perhaps.
19:06.47OluapPlayerhttp://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/60/Vulcanus_Fire_Smeever.png ur body is not redi
19:07.38Xhonghwdnngh
19:07.58Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Akharavzund Well there's the emblem
19:08.16OluapPlayerebul ball
19:08.52TheBuldierXho: these guys live in Abysus?
19:09.00XhoNo but close to it
19:09.19TheBuldierI see
19:10.11TheBuldierAkharav looks pretty similar to the Shiarchron
19:10.33MonetSmeever with armour.
19:10.44TheBuldier*Shiarchon
19:11.09Monethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7RIgs3eygo
19:11.32OluapPlayerhur
19:14.59OluapPlayerhttp://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/47/Vulcanus_Pyromancer.png maijs
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19:16.15XhoWhere is this file where it corrects the colours
19:16.52OluapPlayerhold on
19:17.17OluapPlayerhttp://mods.davoonline.com/9 this one
19:18.07XhoAnd this goes into the same folder as the other files right
19:18.49dino__bye
19:18.51dino__have to leav
19:18.51dino__esee ya
19:18.52CyrannianBye!
19:19.15XhoWhoa the size of this file
19:19.16Xhodam dis
19:20.06OluapPlayerYes it goes
19:20.15Xho435 MB
19:20.17Xhowat
19:20.18Xhojust wat
19:21.35OluapPlayerNow to make a huge fire spider
19:24.43Imperios2Make firey women
19:24.52Imperios2As Hachi suggested
19:25.03OluapPlayerThe fire spiders are female, there hur
19:25.07Xhongh
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19:25.18JepardiHi
19:26.50Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Old_Cyrannian_Republic - Hooray for sweeping retcons!
19:27.43OluapPlayerOoooh
19:27.50OluapPlayerI'm interested in dis
19:28.51TheBuldierWow, lots of empires had Orbispira as their core planet
19:29.35Monet"whoever controls Orbispira, controls the galaxy" as I recall.
19:30.36CyrannianIndeed! Once I'm finished with the Republic, I might write some stuff about the government *before* it, the Sovereignty of the Core
19:31.09OluapPlayergeezush
19:32.06CyrannianI had an idea that it was only a loose organisation of powerful planets such as Orbispira that desired to come out on top.
19:32.39OluapPlayerhttp://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/86/Vulcanus_Aranignun.png super fuzzy and friendly
19:32.44MonetSo some kind of interim government?
19:33.16XhoOluapPlayer: Spiders have eight legs
19:33.17TheBuldierOluap: Of course, so cute...
19:33.50OluapPlayerXho: And so does that spider
19:34.16OluapPlayerlern 2 count u fukhed
19:34.48Xhorite
19:34.53XhoPerspective
19:35.35OluapPlayerThis spider has probably the best colouration I ever gave to a creature
19:35.37OluapPlayerIn my opinion that is
19:35.49CyrannianBye!
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19:42.17OluapPlayerhttp://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/58/Vulcanus_Berserker.png [references intensifies]
19:47.47Imperios2Shu - copycat dumbo
19:49.29XhoMalcaeum hardens
19:49.59Imperios2Expand sword
19:50.49Imperios2Cyrannian: Praesator *Cyrannus*?
19:51.23WormyThis is now finished, I'll make a blog version to announce it soon http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Types_of_civilisation#Tier_Scale_V3
19:51.28Imperios2The guy either had a galaxy-sized ego or was REALLY popular
19:52.33MonetCyrannian's gone
19:52.48Imperios2dum
19:53.14WormyThis exlains it http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Types_of_civilisation#Tier.2FClass_scale_merger
19:56.54OluapPlayerhttp://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/da/Vulcanus_Horde.png "I need a babysitter for these adorable kids"
19:58.16Hachi_AwayThey all look amazing, I love their colouring
19:58.20Imperios2They look like Tyranids for some reason
20:03.26OluapPlayerohi
20:03.28OluapPlayerand tank u
20:14.20Imperios2damn Wormy
20:14.32Imperios2I wanted to ask him a few things
20:15.36GhelYou can still ask him them. You'll just have to wait until he gets back for a reply.
20:17.23OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Vulcanus_Horde#Species dere
20:17.29Wormy_awayThis mirrors some of the Milky Way Cooperative projects http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/45e648b4a5fc0
20:19.20Imperios2Wormy_away: Could I make an Islander character?
20:19.40Wormy_awayyes
20:19.49Hachi__OluapPlayer: Darkspore really compliments your creatures hur
20:20.00Hachi__Imperios2: Make the Islander a busty woman
20:20.03Imperios2He won't do much, he'll be mostly for backstory
20:20.52Imperios2Hachi__: Well
20:21.10XhoOluapPlayer: this textures file goes into the same folder as the rest right
20:21.18OluapPlayerYes
20:21.30Imperios2He'll be a wandering trader and Carlini's father
20:22.32OluapPlayerNext section, the team will meet those critters
20:23.57Imperios2Or perhaps Carlini could be one herself but then I'd have to change her name
20:24.25Imperios2But yeah Hachi__, that was exactly the reason why I asked Wormy hur
20:24.39Hachi__rite
20:26.40XhoNothing seems to have changed the colours
20:27.15Imperios2Try to remove the old colour file
20:27.50XhoWhich file is that
20:27.51Imperios2OluapPlayer: For some reason the Vulcanus creatures remind me of DotA creeps
20:28.05Imperios2VULCANUS TOP TOWER IS UNDER ATTACK
20:28.42XhoImperios2: Which file is the old colour file
20:28.59Imperios2Textures or something
20:29.25XhoI don't have that
20:31.06XhoWell this sucks
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20:40.51MonetNot sure what to do...
20:52.03Imperios2Random fact
20:52.17Imperios2"Yuri" is actually a name in Russian
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20:54.09Hachi__olol
20:54.24Ghel"Yuri"? You mean, like that guy who was the first human in space?
20:54.41ImperiosYeah him
20:56.21Wormy_awayThe first human to survive in space more like hur
20:58.02Monet"Yuri" has gorown to be one of those stereotypical Russian names popular in estern media alongside Boris, Ivan and Sergei.
20:58.08MonetWestern
20:58.17OluapPlayerNever heard of russians named Yuri
20:58.28MonetAlso Vladimir but I don't think that's actually Russian
20:58.33MonetVladimir*
20:58.35Wormy_awayIgor
20:59.07MonetOluapPlayer: There was a Yuri in Red Alert 2
20:59.32OluapPlayerI don't know what that is
20:59.38MonetCOmmand and COnquer
20:59.42ImperiosVladimir is a perfectly normal Russian name, means "Peaceful ruler"
21:00.03ImperiosIn modern Russian, however, it can also mean "WORLD ruler"
21:00.03MonetOkay that's ironic given the most famous Vladimir in history
21:00.38MonetWell, imfamous
21:00.40ImperiosWhich is somewhat more fittinf
21:00.40Monetinfamous*
21:00.41ImperiosConsidering that Lenin and Putin are both Vladimirs
21:01.09MonetEveryone wants to rule the world.
21:01.22Hachi__brb
21:01.55ImperiosI remember a boy named Sergei in school
21:02.51ImperiosHe was basically an annoying redhead with a speech impediment
21:03.10Wormy_awaySo not this guy then http://images.dailystar-uk.co.uk/dynamic/1/281x351/230044_1.jpg
21:04.31Wormy_awayImperios:  Have we ever shown you Compare the Meerkat?
21:05.37ImperiosAlso he asked me to download something erotic for him once
21:05.50ImperiosYes you have
21:06.01XhoTechnobliterator: Can you solve that problem with the infobox
21:06.03ImperiosThen there was that Artem guy
21:06.19Technobliteratorwhich [rpb;e,
21:06.19Technobliteratorproblem*
21:06.20ImperiosWho ACTUALLY DOWNLOADED PORN ON MY PHONE
21:06.28ImperiosNever gomna give it to him again
21:06.34XhoThe problem with the image code appearing in the image part of the box
21:06.56Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3ALord_Akharav Like that for example
21:07.10GhelThe problem with the image code appearingis because you type in the full file link.
21:07.20GhelUse the "image size" parameter to set the image size.
21:07.29Monetthat anomoly is why I started creating "bust" pictures
21:07.41XhoNow this I was never told
21:08.03GhelSo you have "image = LordAkarav.png | image size = 270px ".
21:08.14OluapPlayerWe have that?
21:08.25OluapPlayerThat's new to me
21:08.33XhoThat doesn't work on this page
21:09.33XhoEdit that page so I can see what you're on about
21:11.30GhelHmm. It is in the template code: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_captain?action=edit
21:11.52XhoCan it just be removed?
21:12.22GhelIt could be, but that would mess up countless other infoboxes on the wiki.
21:12.30GhelUnless you want to go through and fix them all yourself.
21:13.35XhoDefinitely doesn't work
21:13.41GhelThe "main image1 size" parameter doesn't seem to exist in {{Infobox/new}}.
21:13.41morgothBotPyGhel meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Infobox/new
21:14.18XhoWould adding it help?
21:14.37GhelOnly if you add it in correctly. Look at the code for that infobox if you want an idea of how easy that would be.
21:15.06XhoRight
21:15.10XhoOh dear god
21:16.05GhelThat may not be the issue, though.
21:16.38GhelAfter all, it works perfectly well with 250px as the default.
21:17.03XhoImages are too small if you ask me
21:18.49GhelYou could just edit the default size on {{infobox captain}} to be larger.
21:18.49morgothBotPyGhel meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:infobox_captain
21:29.19Technobliteratoru wot
21:29.26Technobliteratorhow did you not know that it's been there for ages :o
21:35.40Hachi__So I just watched somebody eat a pig's penis
21:35.58Hachi__Was not appealing, at all
21:36.16MonetI remember stumbling across a civ universe a long time ago. Whatever happened?
21:36.38GhelIt died, I guess. I know Liquid Ink wants to revive it.
21:36.43Hachi__OluapPlayer: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Animated-Jon-Tron-418601609
21:36.48MonetWe have fantasy, sci-fi, and turns out we once had contemporary.
21:37.40OluapPlayerHachi__: He looks like Wreck-It Ralf
21:37.51OluapPlayerRalph*
21:38.11OluapPlayer"I'M GONNA ECH IT"
21:39.10Hachi__I wouldn't mind a Civ fiction universe
21:39.23Hachi__Though that may limit creations a bit
21:39.58OluapPlayerI never found it interesting at all
21:40.22Technobliteratorciv fiction universe was pretty dumb imbo
21:40.25Technobliteratorimo*
21:40.41Technobliteratorthere's basically nothing interesting you can do with it that can't be done in the fictionverse
21:40.53Technobliteratoralso wreck it ralph was amazing
21:40.53GhelI'd guess that the main reasons why civ universes die are 1) they're too similar to real life and 2) there's no magic or superhuman immortal demigods.
21:41.03Technobliteratoryeah, pretty much
21:41.07MonetI suppose the concept focuses on stories that involve relations, espionage or modern-age warfare.
21:41.50MonetSo it's  fitting setting if you want to write a story liek Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy or something inspired by the Bourne films.
21:42.53MonetRather than involving anything involving crazy technology or tthe machinations of entities beyond this world.
21:43.09GhelHowever, people here do seem to love their magical superhuman immortal demigods.
21:43.14Hachi__Thing is, the civ universe has something the primeverse as of now doesn't
21:44.14Hachi__ZEPPELINS
21:44.26OluapPlayerFantasyverse has that hur
21:44.30OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/655/147/355.jpg
21:44.33Hachi__Bugger
21:44.47MonetI was going to say the ability to put aside the great war between good and evil
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21:44.58Hachi__OluapPlayer: ohgod
21:45.59MonetSo far much of what goes on in the fictionverse is the deisgn of or the influence of beings beyond mortal understanding.
21:46.15MonetSo basically everyone's a pawn whether they like it or not
21:46.32OluapPlayerHachi__: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/656/163/6e6.png
21:46.36GhelHonestly, it wouldn't surprise me if the civ universe ended up turning out that wat too.
21:46.37MonetThat's what I liked about GOlden Movement.
21:46.47Hachi__I support the idea of a civ universe
21:46.49Hachi__But it can go very wrong in its premise
21:47.09Hachi__OluapPlayer: "eren"
21:48.10MonetYeah. I mean..is the civ universe going to have one sapient species or are we going t ostick with the tradition of several?
21:48.26Hachi__Indeed that was my main concern
21:49.00MonetHaving several puts complications on concepts like espionage and mutual understanding.
21:49.33GhelThe fantasyverse is a good transitional state between having many species and just one or two: while there are multiple species, most users seem to be content with making individual races of just a few.
21:49.47MonetOh and inter-species relationships. You HAVE to think about that.
21:49.49CyrannianWhat's the topic?
21:49.57Hachi__A civ universe
21:50.07MonetCyrannian: Wondering if we can get the civ universe to work again
21:50.07Hachi__Monet: I think about that all the time
21:50.17MonetOf course you do.
21:51.07OluapPlayeroho
21:51.12OluapPlayerI only just got it
21:51.38CyrannianA civ universe would be refreshing alright
21:52.14CyrannianI don't know if it could stay active though.
21:52.26Hachi__I'd be willing to keep it active
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21:52.27OluapPlayerFor the sake of not being rude, I'm not gonna comment
21:53.03MonetSo far the main concern is what we do about perticipent species; are we going to restrict to a small pool or are we going to let users create their own for their nations.
21:53.14Monetparticipant*
21:53.38Hachi__Well, I don't see why we can't have multiple races
21:53.45CyrannianI agree.
21:54.10Hachi__Although I can imagine quite a few races sharing ancestors realistically
21:54.29GhelIf we're going to have a small pool, we'd better make sure that everyone will be happy with them. I don't know how difficult that might be.
21:54.59MonetIn the case of humans, one of the main reasons why there is only Homo Sapiens is because the other prior species were either our ancestors or weren't adaptable enough.
21:56.02Hachi__Also I don't see why we can't have immortal demigods or magic either :P
21:56.20GhelI can already see some civverse nations forming.
21:56.25GhelOne of which uses magic instead of technology.
21:56.33CyrannianOh! I have an idea for an economic nation named the Republic of Europolis
21:56.52Hachi__I'm imagining dinosaurs
21:57.03CyrannianFrom an idea that I had when I was young
21:57.04MonetIf we're going to have magic, I vote we have an elemental energy analogue at the very least
21:57.07CyrannianWith dinosaurs.
21:57.28Hachi__I'd say we should restrict the magic here realistically
21:57.28MonetEurope: Jurassic Park edition.
21:57.39GhelI vote that the sapient species of the civverse are all dinosaur-themed.
21:57.50Cyrannian^ I'm aroused
21:58.20GhelWe can also include non-sapient dinosaurs as wildlife.
21:58.27MonetHachi__: I'm okay with that, it means we can still have Zen monks.
21:58.37Hachi__Of course hur
21:59.11GhelAlthough if we go too far with the dinosaur theme, we'll end up with an alternate-reality Cretaceous Earth.
21:59.34CyrannianThere's nothing wrong with an alternate-reality Cretaceous Earth, Ghel.
21:59.41GhelNo, there isn't.
21:59.49MonetWell, it is easier to create reptiles in Spore
22:00.01GhelIn fact, I change my vote to being in favour of the civverse beingan alternate-reality Cretaceous Earth.
22:00.29GhelReal-world, not main SporeWikiverse. Unless the Chitauri are going to be a major faction.
22:00.44Hachi__Still I imagine there would be plenty of mammalian, avian and amphibian critters too hur
22:01.16GhelAvian = dinosaur.
22:01.21GhelMammalian = dinosaur food.
22:01.25Hachi__hur
22:01.54MonetOne thing i'm looking forward to: While it's fun to create megapoli like Minos'Drakon, building the platforms that make up the bulk of the city is a complete bitch to make and position.
22:02.24MonetCivverse cities I might not have to bother
22:03.20Hachi__There is also the potential problem of Xho getting involved hur
22:03.26Cyrannianhttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41A2jR7RoCL._SY300_.jpg - Fun/Embarrassing Fact: When I got this in 2001, it served as the predecessor of the Libertus.
22:03.42Hachi__olol
22:04.04MonetI think you showed us something like that.
22:04.10CyrannianAnd I still have that very thing on my shelf.
22:05.04MonetXho getting involved yeah there could be one or two complications.
22:05.05CyrannianAnyway, we should probably enforce a rule that no one user can be placed in a position of power over others.
22:05.55DrodoEmpireMeaning?
22:06.00DrodoEmpireNo superpowers?
22:06.08DrodoEmpireOr everyone is about the same technologically?
22:06.11Hachi__No single-user superpowers, no
22:06.17DrodoEmpireMhm.
22:06.20DrodoEmpireI agree.
22:06.20MonetThis is about user pecking order
22:06.27CyrannianIndeed.
22:07.14MonetNo "I created the world so I have final say" or "I created this continent/forest/desert/maountain range, I decide what goes on"
22:07.22Hachi__Yeah
22:07.40Hachi__A single user can come up with an alliance or something between various nations but they can't actually direct the entire thing
22:07.41Hachi__That's the point of it being collaberative
22:07.42CyrannianAs well as that, as Hachi said, perhaps superpowers can be shared by multiple users.
22:07.53GhelWe could design this from the start to be a more community-focused fictionverse.
22:08.30Hachi__Yeah
22:08.34CyrannianPersonally I think we should discuss implementing such rules to make the main fictionverse more community-focused, but perhaps that is unlikely at this point.
22:08.50Tek0516DroidWhat are we talking about?
22:08.51GhelI think it's never too late the start.
22:08.51MonetWell we already have an EE analogue in concept for the civverse.
22:09.06GhelThat's the good thing about wikis. Everything can be changed.
22:09.26Hachi__There would still be wars about I imagine but nothing World War-ish, even though that may have happened in the past
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22:10.04MonetAlthough I vote that the kinds of magic used are limited given EE is a jack-of-all-trades magic/energy type anyway
22:11.14Hachi__I imagine civverse magic could work like biotics in Mass Effect
22:11.14MonetHachi__: Makes sense. I think in human histroy WWI and II killed off that kind of idea.
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22:11.54MonetWWI was originally dubbed "the war to end all wars" after all.
22:12.17Hachi__Jah
22:12.25GhelIf we do have magic, that's something that really needs to be carefully worked out. Magic has a clear place in the fantasyverse because it's fantasy, and a clear place in the scifiverse because Essence is something that usually requires a huge amount of development to access.
22:12.59GhelHaving magic in the civverse could easily alter it even more than replacing humans with sapient dinosaurs woud.
22:13.05Ghelwould*
22:13.42MonetWhich is why we coudl restrict it to more realistic uses.
22:13.50GhelAlso, I've already started thinking of making a scientist character, and I don't want to make his life even harder than it'll already be. :P
22:13.53MonetLike say mind-and-body techniques or suggestion.
22:14.12Hachi__It might not actually be magic
22:14.13Hachi__We could just have elements that amplify mental ability
22:14.23Hachi__And the usual mind-and-body methods
22:14.36MonetDrugs :>
22:14.42Hachi__yeh
22:14.47Hachi__Implants, drugs, that kinda thing
22:14.53Tek0516DroidUnless it has scientific basis, I'd vote against magic.
22:15.16Hachi__I say magic as a loose term
22:15.23Tek0516DroidAgreed
22:15.24Hachi__It's not actually magic in this case
22:15.54Monet"Magic" in the traditional sense died out duroing the Age of Reason, perhaps something similar happened on the civ planet?
22:16.18Tek0516DroidI'm fine with some kimd of magic-like phlobetium.
22:16.43Hachi__Brain-enhancing chemical elements, technological implants and mind-body enlightenment could be our primary sources of "magic"
22:17.16GhelI'd suggest spiritual techiques might simply be common in the civverse than on modern Earth.
22:17.49GhelTechniques such as meditation and intense psychadelic drugs.
22:17.54Hachi__Jah
22:17.56Tek0516DroidWhat exactly happens in this civverse? I was afk the whole time.
22:18.43GhelIt's alternate-reality Late Cretaceous Earth where dinosaurs are at a level of technological development roughly equivalent to that of modern-day humanity.
22:18.50Hachi__noh
22:19.08GhelNo? Okay, fine.
22:19.13GhelIt's alternate-reality Late Cretaceous Earth where dinosaurs are at a level of technological development roughly equivalent to that of 20th-century humanity.
22:19.13Hachi__Well right now we're sorting out rules
22:19.14Hachi__We haven't actually established any story or history
22:19.19MonetMaybe we have cases of independent evolution.
22:19.37GhelYes, we haven't actually fully decided on it all yet.
22:19.38Hachi__Independent evolution and plenty of shared ancestors, I say
22:19.59Tek0516DroidIf it's late Cretaceous we'll have lots of those big dinosaurs.
22:20.00Monetwe're bound to have several continents, maybe the sapient dinosaurs thrived on one continent while spaient mammals or birds thrived on another?
22:20.39Hachi__That's kind of a cool idea
22:20.43Hachi__A continent for each animal kingdom maybe?
22:20.51GhelI assume any birds will have arms, in which case they're just dinosaurs with beaks. :P
22:21.00Tek0516DroidWell, maybe not sentient plants.
22:21.02GhelBut we could have some mammals somewhere too.
22:21.21Cyrannianhttp://www2.nau.edu/rcb7/090Marect.jpg - We don't even need to create a map. :P
22:22.17MonetC, maybe dinos died out on a few of those continents allowing other animal types to thrive?
22:22.18Tek0516DroidThat's a lot of landmasses.
22:22.46Hachi__So are we actually going with the alternate Earth idea
22:22.59Tek0516DroidMaybe that extinction event 65 million years ago turned out differently?
22:23.11MonetI'd support an alien planet
22:23.18Hachi__So would I hur
22:23.27Tek0516DroidI probably would too.
22:23.44GhelDinosaurs dying out could easily work on some of the islands. Or even dinosaurs became smaller due to island dwarfism while mammals grew in size due to island gigantism, and the latter managed to dominate the former.
22:24.39GhelAs for alternate-Earth versus other planet, it's already different enough to be another planet, although we could stick with the Cretaceous Earth map.
22:24.53Hachi__I suddenly want to make a civilization based on neanderthals hur
22:25.04Tek0516DroidLol
22:25.25MonetCretaceous-earth map does look lik a very interesting backdrop
22:25.29Hachi__Jah
22:25.31GhelWe already have Neanderthals in the scifiverse. :P
22:25.31Tek0516DroidYeah.
22:25.39Hachi__yeh but deyz not mah neandertals
22:26.03GhelYou see, this is entirely the attitude that a community-focused fictionverse would prevent.
22:26.06Ghel:D
22:26.35MonetIf we're going with the alternate-earth idea it'll be a different reality anyway
22:26.47Tek0516DroidTechnically alternate Earth doesn't require any similarities in evolutionary history. The continents would still shift the same.
22:27.06Hachi__Well I imagined we'd be doing to this world what we did to Koldenwelt and setting it in a different universe
22:27.13Hachi__Unless we're, well, not doing that
22:28.16MonetI think I might write the notification blog for this if that's okay with people, so this isn't lost in a mountain of IRC conversations
22:28.39MonetAlso it allows anyone who missed this conversation to give input
22:28.42Tek0516DroidYeah.
22:28.44Hachi__Well, if we wanna go through with this, how many people think this is a good idea?
22:29.01GhelI agree that it's a good idea.
22:29.10Wormy_awayThere might be some changes.  If the climate changed enough, then it my spur more or less biogenic activity, changing sedimentary rates, geochemistry etc, thus changing rock density, pressure and temperature in the Lithosphere and Mantle
22:29.14GhelAnd we are setting it in a different universe to the SporeWikiverse, ideally.
22:29.25Wormy_awayWe could use that for a bit of artistic liscence
22:29.29Hachi__Also, to rule it all out, how advanced are we going to go with this? Like there could be nations with no space travel but with powered armour
22:30.49MonetI say we keep the ability for nations to have space programmes. Otherwise modern conveniences lik mobile phones and sattellite tv would be nonexistant in this setting
22:30.54MonetOh and GPS
22:31.28MonetCivs could be at the state where interplanetary travel is still far too costly.
22:31.29Hachi__Aye makes sense
22:32.16MonetAlso even if we are sticking with 21st-century Earth as a tech template, a tier scale is still possible
22:32.52MonetThere are still nations out there on Earth that are decades behind the West.
22:32.54WormyHow far into space would they be allowed to venture?  The decades soon mount up in the fiction universe
22:33.25Hachi__I'd say the Moon and that's probably about it
22:33.37Hachi__Or moons, however many we're going with
22:33.50MonetRemember we haven't really sent anyone to that thing in over thirty years
22:34.02WormySome of the Milky Way Precursors would be around.  They could be UFO's
22:34.27GhelWe could (as a backdrop) have Mars inhabited by Martians, and since nobody wants an interplanetary war (and terraforming would still be required for Mars to be *hospitable* to dinosaurian life), there'll be no space colonisation until somebody figures out interstellar travel which could be centuries away.
22:35.46MonetTerraforming is possible with present technology. it's jsut A) Obscenely expensive and B) takes decades or even centuries.
22:35.59WormyThe UFO's would of course be treated as make believe by the masses
22:36.13Hachi__I still say we should restrict it really to about moon-level
22:36.21Hachi__Plenty of space stations though
22:36.36WormyInterplanetary robots
22:36.39MonetWe can still have sattellites.
22:36.54WormyWhat about space mining, orbital microwave sats, etc.?
22:37.03WormyAutomated space mining that is
22:37.17MonetOr to make things interesting and "fun," maybe the planet is on the brink of Kessler syndrome >:)
22:37.36Hachi__Kessler syndrome?
22:37.51GhelWe could even have interplanetary colonisation (perhaps in the near future, with the aforementioned terraforming difficulty), but there's no FTL in this universe, so interstellar travel is still centuries away.
22:37.52WormyDid you watch Gravity?
22:37.58WormyIf you did:  That
22:38.27MonetBasically there's so much junk in the atmosphere everything smashes into each other creating a cloud of debris that makes entering orbit dangerous.
22:38.48Hachi__Ah
22:39.39Hachi__Wormy: I imagine space stations could derive resources from passing asteroids and such
22:39.41Hachi__For ice, water, etc
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22:39.42Zmr56Hello there
22:39.43GhelHello.
22:40.57WormyMind you, it could be a chance to make the Civ universe quite different to our world
22:41.12Hachi__Yeh
22:41.17WormySame level more or less, but alien.  They could still be Dinos
22:42.08WormyThey might favour ocean travel or something, or they could have evolved from an Aquatic Stage, to pay homage
22:43.41GhelAs for the calendar, I suggest we pick a nice round year to start on. That requires us to decide what the calendar's Year 1 is.
22:45.18Hachi__I dunno if we'd be using the Gregorian calendar
22:45.43MonetI say use something else.
22:45.51CyrannianThe birth of Raptor Jesus
22:46.11Wormy^
22:46.28Hachi__Saurus the Prophet and his Twelve Carniciples
22:47.41GhelAnd, of course, the eschatology of Cretaceanity features the Velocirapture.
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22:48.52GhelHello.
22:48.59GhelWe're discussing reviving the civverse.
22:49.29GhelWe might as well start it off in the year 2000, with tech approximately like that of early 21st-century Earth. Things can grow from there.
22:49.46Liquid_InkOkay
22:49.57GhelOr perhaps Raptor Jesus encouraged the development of scientific thinking, in which case, it could even be 1000 or earlier.
22:50.09Hachi__I support the latter
22:51.06Ghel1000 AD it is, then.
22:51.13GhelAD being Anno Dinosauria, of course.
22:51.41WormyI think the Primates should still exist, but as tiny rodent-monkey-bat things
22:51.44Liquid_Ink...
22:52.30GhelThere will be room for mammalian species to exist, particularly on large tropical islands.
22:52.30Hachi__The encouragement of scientific thinking mainly for the reason I want power armour hur
22:54.22MonetDeveloped by CyberDyno industries.
22:54.37WormyThey look like they are part Squirrel, part Monkey, part Bat
22:56.02MonetFeel free to shoot me for my pun
22:56.07Hachi__hur
22:56.24Hachi__Took me a while
22:56.27Hachi__Terminasaurus
22:58.25Liquid_InkYou people facinate me.
22:59.15Liquid_InkBut I still love you
22:59.15GhelIn case you hadn't realised, Liquid, the new civverse is going to be roughly based on an alternate-reality Cretaceous Earth. Partly so we don't have to come up with our own map: http://www2.nau.edu/rcb7/090Marect.jpg
22:59.38GhelAnyway, I shall be going now. Bye!
22:59.47Hachi__So I'm making modernized neanderthal people
22:59.49Hachi__dis gon b gud
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23:00.11MonetThey did have a larger brain pan than humans.
23:01.13Liquid_InkThat is just laziness
23:04.57Monetlooking at the human direction, powered exoskeletons will be used as mobility enhancers first, then will get armour
23:05.51MonetBut even if we crack it, i'm guessing powered armour will be infiesable for a standard soldier to equip for at least two decades perhaps.
23:05.56Monetat least a decade*
23:06.16Wormywatsdidabootneanderugguggethals
23:06.51Hachi__I'm making a nation of neanderthals for the civverse
23:06.52MonetWhoever founded the real-life Cyberdyne Systems nust have had quite the sense of humour.
23:07.09WormyWhen I look at Mechas, then look at tanks, I can see which one will win
23:07.20Hachi__There should be mecha here as well
23:07.54MonetOne bag of C4 to a leg and down they go
23:07.57WormyA big clumsy two legged m,achine vs. moving cannon
23:08.14Hachi__Yeah mechs are quite overrated
23:08.23Hachi__They rely heavily on joints, aka weak spots
23:08.50WormyWe tend to use technology to improve upon the limitations of our physiology
23:10.07MonetThis is why the ITN largely kept out of the giant mecha craze.
23:11.44MonetThis reminds me of the Global Defence Initiative in C&C 2 and 3; they had lots of mechs in C&C 2 which were largely phased out for these very reasons: Cumbrsome, expensive, perilously balanced and easy to have a leg blown to pieces.
23:12.49Wormylol
23:13.26MonetIt's an actual game mechanic in 3: Have a commando plant C4 on a walker's leg, detonate it, then send an engineer to fix the damaged wrech. Presto, one free mecha.
23:14.24Monetengineers in COmmand and COnquer are like McGuyver; you send them inside a building with nothing but a toolbox and the building gets fixed to prisitine ondition no matter hwo smashed-up it was.
23:14.57MonetThat includes the building narroly surviving a nuke blast or killer laser from space.
23:15.14DrodoEmpireMonet: Lol, yeah. I'm pretty sure they could also capture buildings?
23:15.55DrodoEmpireDespite having (if they're lucky) a pistol. XD
23:16.02MonetYep.
23:16.59MonetIn 3 it's stated GDI engineers have a pistol, but it is ineffective against modern (read 2047-era) body armour
23:17.22MonetWhich is kinda fridge logic when you realise the bulk of Nod's forces at the time were basically thugz wit gunz
23:17.38DrodoEmpireYeah, really.
23:18.12DrodoEmpireBut I'm pretty sure in 3 they could upgrade to combat engineers, which had a more effective pistol (AKA one that figured in the game stats)
23:18.26DrodoEmpireI haven't played in a while though. XD
23:18.43MonetI think it was mentioned Nod milita used stuff like AKs and 1995-era weaponry
23:18.52MonetAlong with more modern stuff
23:19.04Hachi__Can't diss an AK really
23:19.27Cyrannianhttp://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/df/Admiral_Fo_Yularkin.png - An eccentric admiral in the First Republic that survived experimentation by the Nagith, Yularkin served as a model that even Imperial captains today look up to.
23:19.41Hachi__Damn, he looks fancy
23:23.05CyrannianThank you bunny
23:24.30Liquid_InkIs the Old Cyrannian Republic the Pyrían Republic renamed or something?
23:24.35MonetAK is a solid weapon sure.
23:24.57MonetBut something hit me
23:25.03CyrannianYes.
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23:25.39DrodoEmpireHachi: The AK-47 would be 100 years old by C&C 3.
23:25.40DrodoEmpireXD
23:25.55Zmr56That guy looks like he's been through a lot no wonder he would be a role model
23:26.02Zmr56Hi there
23:26.05DrodoEmpireTry using a 100-year old gun on today's battlefield.
23:26.15MonetThe engineer's pistol is "ineffective against modern body armour." Given that GDI started as a UN-funded initiative, they would be using probably a Colt  1911 or a Glock-17.
23:26.28TybusenPeople do still use AK-47s in combat situations
23:26.45TybusenMainly because the AK-47 is about where we hit the ceiling in terms of firearm refinement
23:27.07DrodoEmpireBut this game is based in a sci-fi world about thirty years in the future.
23:27.12MonetEssentially, body protection has advanced to the point that 9mm rounds from a Colt 1911 - one of the most solid and long-standing pistol designs in the world - do nothing.
23:28.31TybusenThe AK is still competitive with modern ballistic rifles, though I don't know what other advancements there have been in the thirty years in the future
23:28.41DrodoEmpireThe ones Monet stated.
23:29.10DrodoEmpireWhen a .45 round; A round big enough to probably blow someone's head off, is useless, that's advanced shit.
23:29.26Monethttp://blog.al.com/techcetera/2007/12/CC3ZoneTrooper.JPG well there's also this
23:29.42MonetPower armour + man-portable railgun
23:29.58TybusenWell, in that case, then yeah the AK would be outdated
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23:30.14TybusenAK is nothing next to a railgun
23:30.15MonetCyrannian: All those implants make him look quite creepy
23:30.53CyrannianIndeed, though he has a heart of gold
23:31.14MonetLuckily for Nod militants, that armour is designed mainly for combat in zones where most normal humans would die in minutes.
23:32.42MonetBy 2047 GDI couldn't make their railguns much smaller than that save for field prototypes.
23:32.54DrodoEmpirehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb-r3VqtmdM
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23:55.50Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Monet47/Potential_Civ_Universe_Revival anything i've missed out apart from Raptor Jesus?
23:58.16MonetAlso I have a hunch Raptor Jesus could become a meme
23:58.51Wormy_STOOh it will
23:58.59MonetOh wait it already is one, but I was talking about a community meme
23:59.10Wormy_STOI knew

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