| 00:02.49 | Hachi_Ill | I think it's pretty asshole-ish that Klimmek only warns you about the wolves and not the fucking snow troll while walking the 7,000 steps |
| 00:04.05 | Monet | I had Lydia distract it while I stabbed it ten times |
| 00:04.42 | OluapSkyrim | That troll trolled me back when I met it hur |
| 00:05.00 | Hachi_Ill | Funnily enough I do the same thing hur |
| 00:05.41 | OluapSkyrim | I just ran past it |
| 00:05.45 | Monet | If Lydia ever dies I shall scream to the heavens the worlds "NOOOOO, who will carry all my stuff now!" |
| 00:05.56 | Monet | words* |
| 00:06.08 | OluapSkyrim | Mean |
| 00:06.11 | OluapSkyrim | I like Lydia |
| 00:06.27 | Hachi_Ill | If you leave her with the troll she's likely to die |
| 00:06.43 | Monet | Yeah but she hasn't died yet |
| 00:07.36 | Monet | Best dragon kill ever for me: Stabbing a dragon in the head with Argundil and ten seconds later I look up to see the auraura covering the sky. |
| 00:07.48 | Monet | araura* |
| 00:08.07 | Hachi_Ill | I remember I decided to fight in order to avoid paying toll to walk along a road and Lydia decided to murder all of the fucking bandits aside from one which killed her |
| 00:08.35 | Monet | I felt like God gave me a thumbs up with that moment |
| 00:09.29 | Monet | The least I do is give Lydia some armour |
| 00:09.43 | Monet | And maybe a big sword or axe |
| 00:09.55 | OluapSkyrim | y u treat her like dat |
| 00:10.38 | Monet | Well she's a Houscarl. Her job is to help you kill shit. |
| 00:12.00 | Monet | Maybe Klimmek forgot about the troll? |
| 00:13.00 | Monet | For some reason I am reminded of the "Mankrik's wife" meme on WoW |
| 00:15.14 | Monet | Basically there's this Orc who got separated from his wife and asks you to find her. Three problems though |
| 00:15.53 | Monet | 1) He gives almost no indication of where she is, 2) her NPC name is "beaten corpse" and 3) the Barrens - as far as zones go - was fucking huge. |
| 00:17.53 | Hachi_Ill | olol |
| 00:18.24 | Monet | In repsonse to endless players asking where to find her, one site called WoWhead posted this http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091101132844/wowwiki/images/6/68/Wowhead_Mankrik%27s_Wife.jpg |
| 00:21.57 | Cuttlefish | At least they were close to a road. |
| 00:22.47 | Hachi_Ill | She probably got ran over |
| 00:23.21 | Monet | By a passing Kodo probably |
| 00:23.39 | Hachi_Ill | Gonna go grab something to eat, brb |
| 00:24.05 | Monet | Although really, her body is in the midst of a burned and ruined village. |
| 00:29.40 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy's_The_Division |
| 00:29.49 | Wormy | Anyone seen the reveal for that? |
| 00:30.04 | Monet | I saw a PC gamer article while browsing o ntheir site |
| 00:30.17 | Monet | Mentioning it |
| 00:30.49 | Wormy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_j9uKBmUEk |
| 00:33.08 | Wormy | If you are up against other players and the AI I wonder how chaotic the map will become |
| 00:34.50 | Monet | I've always wondered how closely the Tom Clancy games were connected to the man himself |
| 00:35.24 | Monet | And now that he's passed on, what does this mean for future games that bear his name? |
| 00:40.17 | Monet | I looked though his list of works |
| 00:40.54 | Monet | He has written novels titled "Splinter Cell" and "Rainbow Six" |
| 00:42.34 | Monet | Whoo boy, another apocalyptic game |
| 00:45.32 | Cyrannian | http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9d/AncientPhraedra.png - c |
| 00:45.41 | Monet | The plot sounds like Fallout only it focuses on the guys who survived just after the apocalyptic war |
| 00:46.21 | Monet | Cyrannian: Looksa bit like a recruitment poster |
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| 00:46.29 | Hachi__ | bak |
| 00:47.05 | Liquid_Ink | Hey look, a Cyrannian! |
| 00:47.28 | Hachi__ | I'm a Hachi |
| 00:47.46 | Liquid_Ink | It's complicated. |
| 00:48.00 | Liquid_Ink | Cyrannian has been on for ages and I've only just noticed him. |
| 00:48.21 | Liquid_Ink | You however I noticed as soon as you came on. |
| 00:50.05 | Wormy | Monet: I must admit, this looks cool http://youtu.be/J2TSCZqcjR0?t=6m50s |
| 00:52.02 | Cyrannian | Bye! |
| 00:52.31 | Monet | Wormy: It does look good, yeah |
| 00:53.28 | Liquid_Ink | Has Cyrannian seemed a little uptight recently? |
| 00:55.31 | Hachi__ | That's a bit personal |
| 00:56.05 | Monet | Plus he just left |
| 00:56.24 | Monet | This sort of talk never ends well |
| 00:56.32 | Liquid_Ink | Okay then. |
| 00:56.59 | Wormy | Cyrannian has been doing roleplays, and I know they are not his favourite thing, so I do not agree Liquid |
| 01:00.54 | Wormy_STO | Its not too laste for the DSB to get involved with the Mass Armegeddon time travel story btw |
| 01:03.48 | TekDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.56 | Liquid_Ink | Oh which one? |
| 01:04.07 | TekDroid | " Some things can not be explained by science. Take for example, rainbows. Rainbows are a mystery and you can not touch them, just like god. Despite this fact, they are still there even though there is no scientific explanation for them." |
| 01:04.09 | Liquid_Ink | (That was to Wormy) |
| 01:05.04 | Wormy_STO | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tantummodo_Mortem/Mass_Armageddon#Future's_tense |
| 01:05.33 | Wormy_STO | TekDreoid: What site is this? |
| 01:05.53 | TekDroid | http://fstdt.com |
| 01:06.05 | Wormy_STO | TekDroid: Ckeck out this then http://www.timecube.com/ |
| 01:06.17 | Hachi__ | The real question is |
| 01:06.21 | Hachi__ | Gollum or Dobby? |
| 01:06.27 | TekDroid | A collection of fundamentalist quotes. |
| 01:07.18 | Wormy_STO | Whoever wrote that must have no concept of reason |
| 01:08.00 | TekDroid | Wormy_STO: my head hurts just trying to figure out what was said in the first paragraph on that page you linked. XD |
| 01:08.33 | Wormy_STO | No-one understands Time Cube, not even the writer probably |
| 01:08.52 | Wormy_STO | Everyone is stupid and evil for not understanding Time-Cube |
| 01:09.52 | Wormy_STO | It also corrupts minds |
| 01:09.59 | Wormy_STO | One fan comitted suicide |
| 01:10.09 | TekDroid | O.o |
| 01:16.05 | TekDroid | ...wow. http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/189rkxg76ek9fjpg/original.jpg |
| 01:18.08 | Hachi__ | That gave me cancer |
| 01:21.24 | Cuttlefish | That textbook upsets me. |
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| 01:21.26 | LawfulInsane | Hello. |
| 01:21.54 | TekDroid | I'm pretty sure reading this collection of idiocy is killing my braincells. |
| 01:22.00 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 01:22.38 | Wormy_STO | I find that book an insult to Humanity's progress of knowledge. |
| 01:22.55 | LawfulInsane | ? |
| 01:23.07 | Wormy_STO | http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/189rkxg76ek9fjpg/original.jpg |
| 01:23.35 | Wormy_STO | That shit isn't funny |
| 01:23.53 | Wormy_STO | For 200,000 years our species lived a long stagnated tragedy imo |
| 01:24.10 | TekDroid | Most of the stuff on this site is so horrible it really isn't funny. |
| 01:24.17 | LawfulInsane | Its...I have no idea. |
| 01:24.42 | Wormy_STO | Our ancestors had much the same brains, and could think just as well as us, but they did not know how to make progress with explanatory knowledge |
| 01:25.01 | Wormy_STO | and suffered despite yearning for it |
| 01:25.30 | Cuttlefish | Even though the pope himself said that Catholicism and Evolution are compatible. People still teach this shit? |
| 01:25.46 | Hachi__ | "I have studied postwar Japan to a limited extent, and one of the things I learned was that feminism was never much of an issue for the postwar Japanese, because the US occupational authorities imposed suffrage and women’s rights from the top. It seems that our policy has borne fruit, and that Japanese masculinity has been severed at its root. It might be said at this point that Japan is the first true eunuch nation" |
| 01:26.17 | Wormy_STO | Those fundie books are an insult, they are a crime against humanity. It is abusive to stunt education. |
| 01:26.22 | TekDroid | Any religious propaganda I read serve the opposite of its purpose. XD |
| 01:26.35 | Wormy_STO | Yes, they reveal their own shit |
| 01:27.26 | TekDroid | "Creation Science" is the worst thing to happen to education. |
| 01:28.11 | Cuttlefish | It's not even a real science. Saying that something is without evidence is the exact opposite of the scientific method. |
| 01:28.57 | TekDroid | Exactly. |
| 01:29.21 | Wormy_STO | TekDroid: You might enjoy Thunderf00t's "Why people laugh at creationists" series |
| 01:29.29 | TekDroid | And any "evidence" is more of its so-called "science" |
| 01:31.05 | Wormy_STO | David Deutsch (father of the quantum computer has this to say about creationists: |
| 01:31.17 | Wormy_STO | hang on let me find it |
| 01:31.22 | Cuttlefish | What makes me angry isn't that people believe this. You can think that the Earth is flat for all I care. But it's saying that "Scientists are wrong" and "Only my opinion is right because it's a fact". |
| 01:31.36 | Cuttlefish | That pissies me off |
| 01:31.41 | Hachi__ | At least Pope Francis is one of the religious nuts who's a good guy |
| 01:31.56 | Hachi__ | I like Pope Francis, much better than the last one |
| 01:32.06 | Cuttlefish | He let teenagers take a selfie with him. |
| 01:32.30 | Cuttlefish | And let a a nice African child sit in his pope chair. |
| 01:33.21 | Angrybirds | TekDroid Imagine if Aeo was on right now o.o |
| 01:33.34 | Wormy_STO | Davdid Deutsch on creationists and empiracists http://youtu.be/folTvNDL08A?t=6m1s |
| 01:33.39 | TekDroid | I was thinking about that... o.o |
| 01:34.55 | Wormy_STO | TekDroid: That link also crushes the creationist rainbow aregument if you think about it |
| 01:35.05 | Wormy_STO | the vid |
| 01:35.24 | TekDroid | I'll take a look. |
| 01:35.31 | Hachi__ | I'm not going to bad mouth creationism and theistic evolutionism entirely as subjects due to freedom of belief but I will say that each and every belief has its bad apples that ruin the broth |
| 01:37.48 | Wormy_STO | "No-one's ever seen a bible either" |
| 01:39.26 | Wormy_STO | I'm not anti-religion |
| 01:39.59 | Wormy_STO | I just oppose those who wish to undermine science, the arts and other progress of mankind. |
| 01:41.08 | Cuttlefish | I agree. Many early scientists were actually clergy. |
| 01:42.05 | TekDroid | I agree for the most part. |
| 01:42.50 | Wormy_STO | The rainbow argument seems almost like a empiracist view of science, though worse, for it rejects even deductive reasoning. |
| 01:43.08 | Wormy_STO | Yet we do not see Bible's for what they truly are |
| 01:44.30 | TekDroid | Most religious science did have at least some reasoning based on their knowledge at the time. |
| 01:44.54 | Wormy_STO | The rainbow argument doesn't even have any power to argue on |
| 01:45.00 | Wormy_STO | Its self-refuting |
| 01:45.04 | TekDroid | Yeah. XD |
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| 01:45.25 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 01:45.32 | Liquid_Ink | It's light being refracted by water particles, no? |
| 01:45.40 | TekDroid | Yeah. |
| 01:46.00 | Tybusen | Ello |
| 01:46.06 | TekDroid | We were talking about that the other day in physics class. |
| 01:46.07 | Wormy_STO | Yes, but before even going into the details, their statement has a large defect |
| 01:47.57 | Wormy_STO | Hi |
| 01:47.57 | TekDroid | In case you're confused: |
| 01:47.59 | TekDroid | [20:04] (TekDroid) " Some things can not be explained by science. Take for example, rainbows. Rainbows are a mystery and you can not touch them, just like god. Despite this fact, they are still there even though there is no scientific explanation for them." |
| 01:52.16 | TekDroid | Here's another one... I had to crop out parts due to post length, but I'm sure you'll get the idea. |
| 01:52.19 | TekDroid | Distant stars and galaxies might be millions of light-years away, but that doesn’t mean that it took millions of years for the light to get here, it just means it is really far away! |
| 01:52.30 | TekDroid | *facepalm* |
| 01:52.47 | Wormy_STO | Are you sure this link isn't a parody? |
| 01:53.01 | Wormy_STO | Sometimes even atheists put them up to trick fundies |
| 01:53.32 | TekDroid | It was part of sone Q and A thing, I think. |
| 01:54.09 | TekDroid | Source: answersingenesis.org |
| 01:59.23 | TekDroid | Summary of faith and reason: http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/032009/faith_and_reason.jpg |
| 02:01.05 | Hachi__ | You know it could be worse |
| 02:01.12 | Hachi__ | Could be scientology |
| 02:02.23 | Tybusen | I laugh whenever they have a "reason is the enemy of faith" message, because they had to use reason to come to that conclusion, didn't they? |
| 02:02.39 | TekDroid | Lol |
| 02:02.49 | Wormy_STO | once more we have a self-refuting statement |
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| 02:06.37 | Tybusen | "Logic is invalid unless I use it" - every fundie ever |
| 02:07.09 | TekDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:07.24 | Tybusen | Wormy_STO: TIAF responded to DCP UDB message |
| 02:09.51 | Wormy_STO | cool |
| 02:10.17 | Wormy_STO | The DCP doesn't understand tourism |
| 02:10.50 | Tybusen | Imagine if Oceania had a summer resort |
| 02:10.57 | Tybusen | That'd be DCP tourism right there |
| 02:11.57 | TekDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.35 | Hachi__ | That's okay because it is the soul and not the brain that controls your actions |
| 02:14.06 | TekDroid | kicks Hachi's "soul" |
| 02:14.49 | Tybusen | I love how I just trolled an entire online Mario Kart game by getting a blue shell and making everyone in the front back up, only for me to speed right past them and beat them all by a landslide |
| 02:15.02 | Hachi__ | olol |
| 02:15.40 | TekDroid | Lol |
| 02:16.41 | TekDroid | I remember back in my elementary school grad trip we spent around 24 hours on a bus total, and most of the time had at least 1 Mario Kart game going. XD |
| 02:18.09 | Tybusen | Well they all teamed up on me in the race after that, so I guess I deserved that |
| 02:18.39 | TekDroid | Lol |
| 02:18.50 | Tybusen | I'm gonna start using that strategy more often now |
| 02:34.11 | TekDroid | I'm curious... do any of you know about Toronto mayor Rob Ford? |
| 02:34.30 | Hachi__ | Nope |
| 02:35.45 | Tybusen | Yes |
| 02:35.46 | Tybusen | of course |
| 02:35.58 | Tybusen | He's the only thing the American media talks about right now |
| 02:36.07 | TekDroid | Long story short for those who don't: started off as a gravy train then turned into an utter trainwreck. And that's putting it nicely. |
| 02:38.08 | TekDroid | It's as bad south of the border as it is here? DX |
| 02:39.08 | Cuttlefish | But I'm in America and I've never heard of Rob Ford. |
| 02:39.38 | TekDroid | Then you're lucky. |
| 02:40.15 | Cuttlefish | Why do Americans care about a Canadian mayor? |
| 02:40.26 | Tybusen | He claims he "doesn't smoke" crack, but he also says he never said he "didn't smoke" crack |
| 02:40.37 | Tybusen | Because Toronto is Americatown, Canada |
| 02:40.48 | TekDroid | The guy's a moron with enough scandal and stupidity to get an entire government fired. |
| 02:42.00 | Cuttlefish | The only politicians I have recently heard people complain about is Tony Abbot. |
| 02:42.44 | TekDroid | A sad part is there's still people calling into talkshows claiming he's the best thing that's happemed to Toronto. -.- |
| 02:43.47 | Tybusen | Tek, at the very least it happened in Toronto, you can blame it on the American influence |
| 02:44.48 | Wormy_STO | Oh tht silly man who knocked over the lady? |
| 02:44.51 | Cuttlefish | Like what Canada says about Justin Beiber. |
| 02:45.03 | Wormy_STO | His news has made it across the pond |
| 02:45.45 | DrodoEmpire | I really wish people would stop talking about Rob Ford. |
| 02:46.07 | Wormy_STO | He seems like an embarrisment |
| 02:46.13 | Wormy_STO | to Canada, no offense |
| 02:46.22 | TekDroid | I just wish he'd give up and resign already. |
| 02:46.34 | Wormy_STO | Then again many politicitans achieve this |
| 02:46.38 | DrodoEmpire | He's an idiot, yes, but that doesn't mean it matters to anyone else except for maybe Torontonians. |
| 02:46.40 | Hachi__ | Isn't that what everybody says about every politician? |
| 02:47.00 | Wormy_STO | Yeah but its funny |
| 02:47.03 | Hachi__ | ^ |
| 02:47.06 | Wormy_STO | And most news is dull |
| 02:47.10 | TekDroid | He's worse. |
| 02:47.27 | TekDroid | The sad part is that the news isn't exaggerated. |
| 02:47.40 | Tybusen | That right there is called Poe's Law, my friend |
| 02:47.49 | Hachi__ | Rob Ford seems like a kid who keeps denying something then decides to starts teasing about it while still denying it |
| 02:47.53 | Hachi__ | ala crack |
| 02:48.18 | Wormy_STO | Hachi__ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOCKrXNzEJ0 |
| 02:48.21 | Cuttlefish | I've seen way to much American media. What exactly is the media like outside of America? |
| 02:48.28 | Hachi__ | Dull |
| 02:48.30 | Hachi__ | Depressing |
| 02:48.56 | Wormy_STO | And definately not objective journalism |
| 02:49.11 | Hachi__ | Geezush |
| 02:49.15 | Hachi__ | Why would he do that |
| 02:49.20 | TekDroid | Here in Canada? Pretty much the aame as America probably. Probably less conservative though. |
| 02:49.22 | Hachi__ | British media is just dum |
| 02:49.28 | Hachi__ | Boring, dull, depressing |
| 02:49.33 | Hachi__ | Mindnumbing |
| 02:50.07 | Wormy_STO | Russian news is funny actually. They called Hussein a "found hiding filthy hobo" |
| 02:50.31 | Cuttlefish | I get international news instead from my computer. Angola banned Islam and is now burning thousands of mosques and hurting innocent Muslim people. I agree its depressing. |
| 02:50.34 | Wormy_STO | If that was in British media, there would be an uproar |
| 02:50.34 | Hachi__ | Russians are always funny though |
| 02:51.02 | Wormy_STO | Sometimes I watch NHK World, the Japanese News Channel |
| 02:51.10 | Wormy_STO | Or Aljazeera |
| 02:51.33 | Wormy_STO | Aljazeera seems to be all about conflict and human suffering now though |
| 02:52.02 | Wormy_STO | NHK World has barely any news |
| 02:52.21 | Wormy_STO | Its just "Oh isn't Japan so awesome" |
| 02:52.32 | Wormy_STO | With lots of docs about Japan |
| 02:52.44 | Wormy_STO | and tourism ads |
| 02:52.45 | Hachi__ | Well, it is Japan |
| 02:52.57 | Hachi__ | I remember Takeshi's Castle and Ninja Warrior |
| 02:53.05 | Wormy_STO | Yes |
| 02:53.10 | Cuttlefish | I once saw vending machines there that dispensed live crabs. |
| 02:53.20 | Cuttlefish | And used underwear. |
| 02:53.28 | Cuttlefish | And raw meat |
| 02:53.36 | Wormy_STO | Dispensed used underwear? |
| 02:53.58 | Cuttlefish | They have vending machines for everything |
| 02:53.59 | Wormy | Now thats just... |
| 02:54.03 | Wormy | Thats just.... |
| 02:54.31 | Tybusen | They talk about how Japan is awesome because it *is* awesome |
| 02:54.42 | Tybusen | The only thing is is that Japanese people can be stuck-up |
| 02:55.00 | Wormy | Hence hardly any world news appears on NHK |
| 02:55.44 | Tybusen | In Asian media, Japanese people are the equivalent of posh British people because they're so goddamn stuffy and polite |
| 02:55.48 | Cuttlefish | And what is weirder is that, as weird as they are, they don't tolerate weirdness. |
| 02:57.43 | Wormy | Tybusen: My Japanese lecturer ain't polite |
| 02:58.01 | Wormy | She tore a student's work up the other week |
| 02:58.15 | Wormy | And gave the other wirth social anxiety a panic attack |
| 02:58.53 | Tybusen | They themselves are not necessarily polite |
| 02:59.05 | Wormy | She did this just by looking at him |
| 02:59.08 | Tybusen | They just really really love politeness |
| 02:59.29 | Hachi__ | They're hardcore workers |
| 02:59.45 | Hachi__ | They don't want to bring dishonour to their famiries |
| 03:00.01 | Wormy | lol |
| 03:00.22 | Wormy | Actuallt that ain't so bad |
| 03:00.38 | Wormy | Youth in the UK have lost their way |
| 03:00.44 | Hachi__ | Indeed they have |
| 03:01.07 | Hachi__ | There's fighting against the system and then there being no system at all |
| 03:01.20 | Hachi__ | Or replacing system with an even more stupid one |
| 03:01.31 | Wormy | I was watchinf this American crime show, and this kid goes joyriding and gets pulled over by a cop. The cop threatened to call his mum and he cried. If this was some chav in Britain he would have tried to run away or spit or something |
| 03:01.50 | Wormy | no respect for elders hur |
| 03:02.29 | Cuttlefish | I remember a better time. When Britain was the place to go when your home government f*^%d up. Now it's almost as messed up as America. |
| 03:02.39 | Wormy | Almost? |
| 03:02.43 | Wormy | If not more |
| 03:02.51 | Hachi__ | Oh we still get people from foreign countries coming in |
| 03:03.07 | Hachi__ | Not legally, mind you |
| 03:03.30 | Wormy | I read that Mexicans are coming in |
| 03:03.45 | Wormy | now |
| 03:03.46 | Hachi__ | And getting treated better by the government than the actual natives do, with the native Englishmen having to suppress their own culture so as to "not offend other cultures and ethnicities". |
| 03:03.55 | Wormy | Yes |
| 03:04.15 | Hachi__ | I'm not racist, I fully support multiculturalism and connection between ethnicities |
| 03:04.34 | Wormy | Though I respect the Polish, they tried hard to set up their own businesses and get into the community. If they come here to work, I'm happy. |
| 03:04.39 | Hachi__ | But this is my home and I should be able to celebrate my own goddamned culture without having to consider that of others |
| 03:04.51 | TekDroid | I agree. |
| 03:05.10 | Wormy | Polish setting up businesses is good for economy |
| 03:05.19 | Hachi__ | If they wanna celebrate their culture, they're free to do so. I just want to celebrate my own. |
| 03:05.27 | Cuttlefish | In America, Hispanics are treated not all that well. Especially in Texas |
| 03:05.30 | Wormy | I'm happy for immigrants to work, but not to live off benefits |
| 03:05.35 | Hachi__ | ^ |
| 03:05.39 | Hachi__ | My thoughts exactly |
| 03:05.40 | TekDroid | ^^ |
| 03:05.51 | Hachi__ | We have enough single mums and scummy chavs that do that |
| 03:05.59 | Tybusen | I think we feel that way about everyone |
| 03:06.01 | Wormy | Maybe give Assylum seekers sometime to find a job |
| 03:06.47 | Hachi__ | I dunno how you lot feel but I personally think Britain should reinstate the death penalty for murderers |
| 03:07.08 | Wormy | Nah, I don't think it is morally right. |
| 03:07.41 | Cuttlefish | Very few are wrongly accused compared to how much people say it is. |
| 03:07.49 | Wormy | Practically though, our prisons are limited by space |
| 03:07.56 | Hachi__ | Well how do you feel knowing that serial killers, pedophiles and the likes are getting treated better in prisons than you are by your government? |
| 03:08.13 | Wormy | Then that is the government's fault |
| 03:09.04 | Wormy | You can't get an ought from an is, you can't justify killing easily, even if the criminal is percieved to deserve it |
| 03:09.26 | Hachi__ | I myself hate the way prisoners are treated; they're just being given time-out rather than actually being taught and influenced to not commit crime. |
| 03:09.32 | Wormy | Now, self-defense thats another issue |
| 03:09.43 | Hachi__ | Our tax money goes to give prisoners luxuries |
| 03:10.01 | Wormy | And I think public humilation should return, so the community can teach criminals a lesson |
| 03:10.30 | Cuttlefish | Students have to pay for lunch and prisoners get it for free. If I was homeless. I could murder just so I get a free shelter and meal. |
| 03:11.52 | Wormy | I find the British National Party very unBritish |
| 03:12.34 | Wormy | For emmigration has been it's blood for centuries |
| 03:12.44 | Tybusen | The people who fill prisons are often disadvantaged to start with, why give them an incentive to commit crimes? |
| 03:13.12 | Wormy | The chavs too, I blame the government and society for their existence |
| 03:14.22 | Wormy | So before execution is considered, maybe we should try to fix society first |
| 03:14.41 | Cuttlefish | I'm honestly scared about how this generation will run the world. |
| 03:14.43 | Wormy | And no I do not consider executing chavs |
| 03:15.03 | Wormy | That would be rather Hitler'ish of me |
| 03:15.32 | Wormy | I'm not |
| 03:15.47 | Wormy | They have said that since the time of Plato |
| 03:18.55 | Hachi__ | Thing is, this generation doesn't run the world |
| 03:19.09 | Hachi__ | It's ran by traditionalism and greed from old-thinking politicians |
| 03:20.10 | Wormy | "Children began to be the tyrants, not the slaves, of their households. They no longer rose from their seats when an elder entered the room; they contradicted their parents, chattered before company, gobbled up the dainties at table, and committed various offences against Hellenic tastes, such as crossing their legs. They tyrannised over the paidagogoi and schoolmasters."-- Socrates |
| 03:21.35 | Wormy | I actually think people today are more likely to take what politicians and the media say with a pinch of salt |
| 03:21.41 | Cuttlefish | Oh no! They crossed their legs! |
| 03:22.10 | TekDroid | I've heard those quoted claims, though what actually happened with that generation? |
| 03:22.31 | Wormy | Its my Grandparents who seem to worship whatever the Daily Mail says without thinking about it |
| 03:22.55 | Wormy | Some older members of my family can say racist things |
| 03:25.12 | Wormy | bye |
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| 03:53.02 | TekDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.43 | Angrybirds | I'm re-reading my journal entries from Philosophy. I bring up the giant flying spaghetti monster and invisible hats too often. xD |
| 03:59.30 | TekDroid | O.o |
| 04:01.14 | Cuttlefish | I missed nothing |
| 04:01.47 | TekDroid | Pretty much. |
| 04:03.01 | Angrybirds | ^ |
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| 04:49.07 | Imperios | hi |
| 04:49.21 | Cuttlefish | Hi |
| 04:50.34 | Hachi__ | Hai |
| 04:52.13 | Hachi__ | Imperios: We still gonna make those Soviet elves? |
| 04:52.21 | Imperios | Ya |
| 04:52.27 | Hachi__ | rite |
| 04:52.53 | Hachi__ | I forgot the name I had for them |
| 04:52.53 | Hachi__ | Dryadali Sovereign or something |
| 04:56.05 | Imperios | Yeah that |
| 05:01.05 | Hachi__ | Also, I was thinking of making a human rebel faction |
| 05:01.11 | Hachi__ | That opposes the Empire |
| 05:26.12 | Imperios | Hachi__: [[file:Javina vs Serani.png]] seen this? |
| 05:26.13 | morgothBotPy | Imperios meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/file:Javina_vs_Serani.png |
| 05:26.21 | Hachi__ | I saw dat |
| 05:26.23 | Hachi__ | dat a gud dat |
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| 05:27.35 | DrodoEmpire | back. |
| 05:28.32 | Imperios | We all know what happens next hur |
| 05:28.34 | Imperios | Hi |
| 05:28.59 | Hachi__ | Yes |
| 05:29.02 | Hachi__ | Lots and lots of sex |
| 05:29.48 | DrodoEmpire | So buddy here just filled out the fiction guidelines tier part. |
| 05:30.08 | DrodoEmpire | He's obviously very new, and the accuracy is rather spotty. |
| 05:30.17 | DrodoEmpire | Should I undo it or leave it be? |
| 05:31.07 | Hachi__ | I'd say correct it if you can |
| 05:34.17 | DrodoEmpire | Alright, |
| 05:36.36 | DrodoEmpire | Meh, I can't be bothered to correct everything right now, and I don't want potential newcomers reading that and being misinformed, so I'll undo it. |
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| 05:42.05 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 06:04.22 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire - It would be appreciated if quotes where added. |
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| 06:13.29 | Angrybirds | DrodoEmpire : “Maybe they can help us take Earth back?” - General Mark Kopecski of the Fiction:Terran Coloniel Armed Forces |
| 06:13.31 | Angrybirds | Wat. |
| 06:13.39 | DrodoEmpire | No idea. |
| 06:13.42 | Angrybirds | o.o |
| 06:14.13 | TekDroid | o.o huh? |
| 06:15.01 | Hachi__ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Terran_Colonial_Armed_Forces dis |
| 06:15.21 | Hachi__ | Goes against everything established about humanity in SWverse |
| 06:15.36 | Angrybirds | France - Who in the what? |
| 06:15.42 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, |
| 06:16.56 | TekDroid | I'd say delete due to non-canon. |
| 06:17.05 | Angrybirds | I might have quotes from France later on, but right now I still need to write up that post... |
| 06:17.08 | Angrybirds | I agree. |
| 06:17.39 | DrodoEmpire | Tek: I have already. |
| 06:17.46 | TekDroid | It's not even slightly compatible with canon. |
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| 06:21.19 | Angrybirds_Air | I'm over here. My other account is in the other room, and I don't want to get up >.< |
| 06:21.47 | Tybusen | Apparently that Terran Colonial Armed Forces was founded in 3000 |
| 06:21.59 | Tybusen | So it looks like we're getting a message from the Fictionverse future |
| 06:22.39 | Angrybirds_Air | o.o |
| 06:23.06 | Angrybirds_Air | Well, about two-three years into the future. |
| 06:27.36 | TekDroid | [[Fiction:The GD-S2000b Empire]] "...one of the earliest sapient life forms in the Milky Way," *scream of frustration* |
| 06:27.36 | morgothBotPy | TekDroid meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_GD-S2000b_Empire |
| 06:28.36 | TekDroid | Yet Tier 4.0. XD |
| 06:29.08 | Angrybirds_Air | You could theoretically stay at tier 4 permanently. All you need are some very stubborn religious people. |
| 06:29.29 | TekDroid | These are robots or something. |
| 06:30.04 | Angrybirds_Air | I'm pretty sure you could program robots to believe in god. xD |
| 06:31.14 | Tybusen | An 80-million-year old empire paused at Tier 4 is actually an interesting concept. Just that whoever made that page failed majorly in the execution. |
| 06:31.17 | TekDroid | It's Grox robots. XD |
| 06:32.27 | Angrybirds_Air | Quotes, anyone? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:France#Quotes |
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| 07:20.27 | Angrybirds_Air | Aeo , according to the bible, god created the world in six days or seven days? |
| 07:21.10 | Aeo | six |
| 07:21.14 | Aeo | Seventh is rest |
| 07:22.53 | Imperios2 | Everybody knows that hur |
| 07:25.01 | Angrybirds_Air | Not me, my family didn't impress any form of religion on me. |
| 07:25.58 | Angrybirds_Air | I know the basic idea of the Christian creation myth, but I'm a little foggy on the details. |
| 07:26.08 | Angrybirds_Air | Hence the question. |
| 07:27.32 | Imperios2 | Same with me |
| 07:28.37 | Imperios2 | The only religious person in my family is my Orthodox aunt, my mom is a mild Orthodox while my dad and my older sister, as well as myself, are agnostic |
| 07:29.43 | Angrybirds_Air | My parents and I are agnostic as well. It was kind of mindblowing to go back to France and realize that my maternal grandparents are mildly religious. |
| 07:30.03 | Angrybirds_Air | It's interesting, though. In MANY parts of America, it's frowned upon to be an atheist. Where I am, it's actually frowned upon to be religious. |
| 07:30.54 | Angrybirds_Air | Asserting, "I believe in God!" will get you some weird looks. |
| 07:31.00 | Aeo | AB: On what basis, may I ask? |
| 07:31.09 | Imperios2 | Never understood why the Americans are THAT religious TBH |
| 07:31.13 | Angrybirds_Air | ^ |
| 07:31.22 | Aeo | Well yes, shouting things in public generally does. |
| 07:31.41 | Imperios2 | Yep |
| 07:31.51 | Aeo | Still, what's the usual justification for the bigotry? |
| 07:32.04 | Aeo | Here, it's something about Atheists being unrighteous. |
| 07:32.23 | Angrybirds_Air | I meant more mentioning it in polite conversation, that was an exaggeration. |
| 07:32.27 | Aeo | And the fact that they're constantly bitching about totally innocuous public expressions of religions. |
| 07:32.40 | Imperios2 | Hey, we don't |
| 07:32.52 | Imperios2 | Everybody has a right to believe in whatever they want to |
| 07:32.57 | Aeo | Yes, but certain very important public figures do. |
| 07:32.58 | Imperios2 | *Everyone |
| 07:33.06 | Aeo | Google "9-11 Cross" |
| 07:33.10 | Imperios2 | Punch them in the face |
| 07:33.18 | Aeo | They are punchable. |
| 07:33.27 | Aeo | But not within my range. |
| 07:33.49 | Imperios2 | Although TBH I'd punch some of the clergy first, quite a lot of them are nothing but hypocrites |
| 07:33.50 | Angrybirds_Air | Though Aeo: The reason seems to stem from the stereotype that religious people are bigots and that religion serves only to justify hate and discrimination. |
| 07:33.52 | Imperios2 | No offense |
| 07:34.43 | Angrybirds_Air | Personally, I am apathetic towards religiousness. |
| 07:35.14 | Angrybirds_Air | when it is not being used to justify hate or illogical action* |
| 07:35.26 | Imperios2 | Same |
| 07:36.06 | Imperios2 | I actually thought of convertinf |
| 07:36.14 | Imperios2 | converting |
| 07:36.22 | Aeo | What changed your mind? |
| 07:36.29 | Angrybirds_Air | To what and for what reason? (curious) |
| 07:36.44 | Imperios2 | Well it's more of a possibility |
| 07:37.05 | Imperios2 | You see, religion provides some mental and psychological shelter |
| 07:37.45 | Imperios2 | Whether God exists or not, the placebo effect would probably affect my mind positively |
| 07:37.49 | Imperios2 | As for... to what |
| 07:38.20 | Imperios2 | Probably Orthodox given my entire family is, but any confession that isn't too restricting would do tbh |
| 07:38.24 | Aeo | If that's what you're looking for, the most Atmospheric Christianities are Catholicism and Orthodody |
| 07:38.42 | Imperios2 | All of them have a moral code |
| 07:38.54 | Angrybirds_Air | Meh... To me, that aspect of religion seems to be a way to keep yourself from facing reality, and that's not exactly healthy in my opinion. |
| 07:39.36 | Aeo | Neither is the depression implicit in accepting the lack of life after death. I have no idea how I would cope with such an idea. |
| 07:39.47 | Angrybirds_Air | I do. |
| 07:39.54 | Aeo | Not thinking about it? |
| 07:40.09 | Aeo | Like in Children of Men? |
| 07:40.31 | Imperios2 | Of all afterlives |
| 07:40.31 | Angrybirds_Air | I think about it, and I accept it. I like to face facts head on and immediately accept them and move on. |
| 07:40.45 | Imperios2 | The concept of reincarnation is the most intriguing to me |
| 07:41.11 | Angrybirds_Air | Imperios2 : At this point, it's pick-and-choose what you want to believe in. xD |
| 07:41.39 | Angrybirds_Air | Aeo : There's really no use in stressing yourself over things you can't change. |
| 07:41.41 | Angrybirds_Air | So I don't. |
| 07:43.11 | Angrybirds_Air | I will die, and there's no evidence that I will have any existence after this one. *shrugs* Unless I study to become a biologist, manage to take out the gene responsible for aging in my own genome, and thereby live forever, there's really nothing I can do. |
| 07:43.33 | Tybusen | I'm not the kind of person who will waste half of their life praying and reading a Bible for an afterlife that may or may not exist, though I have mild belief in a higher entity... I guess I just prefer to call myself a secularist since my mom tries her best to force Christianity on me |
| 07:44.28 | Angrybirds_Air | Willing myself to believe in a higher power in order to keep the hope alive that I might continue to live after death seems like wasted energy and pure dillusion. |
| 07:44.35 | Aeo | Tybusen: Well I enjoy prayer, so it's no more a waste of time than a video game at worst. |
| 07:44.43 | Tybusen | My mom would get really pouty if I didn't go to church with her as a kid, that probably was the start of my disillusionment with religion |
| 07:45.30 | Tybusen | I have no problem with people who follow a religion, and I agree that religion and prayer has its merits, but personally I'd rather do something else. |
| 07:45.40 | Angrybirds_Air | ^ |
| 07:46.47 | Angrybirds_Air | And I'd rather think something else. It takes courage to face hard facts*, and I don't want to dodge out of doing it. (*what appears to be true) |
| 07:51.20 | Tybusen | I don't think any of the major world religions are perfect, but I'd like to learn a little bit about all of them to see their good and bad points |
| 07:52.02 | Tybusen | Plus, knowing religious lore can allow you to make allusions that are poetic as hell |
| 07:52.11 | Angrybirds_Air | lol |
| 07:52.43 | Angrybirds_Air | But yeah, I guess not a lot of people have that kind of control. It's a character trait I was born with. The question becomes, would you rather stress out about things you can't change, or would you rather lead yourself to believe something in order to continue on with your life and be happy despite the impermanent nature of your stay here. |
| 07:53.13 | Angrybirds_Air | and the transient nature of those around you. |
| 07:53.29 | Angrybirds_Air | ?* |
| 07:54.13 | Tybusen | I don't see things quite as nihilistically. Sure, the body and mind is transient, but doing great things with your life essentially immortalizes you as long as human civilization stands |
| 07:54.34 | Aeo | AKA not forever |
| 07:55.02 | Angrybirds_Air | And your conscious mind decays and disappears long before that. |
| 07:56.30 | Tybusen | True, but don't you think there's something profound about having done so much in your short existence on the mortal plane that 7 billion individuals remember your name and life? |
| 07:56.38 | Angrybirds_Air | Reminds me of the Dylan Thomas quote, "Do not go quietly into that good night, but rage, rage against the dying of the light." |
| 07:57.21 | Tybusen | Human life is fleeting, but that makes it all the more amazing. |
| 07:57.39 | Angrybirds_Air | I think that that is the closest one could get to actual immortality, and landing in the history books is something I kind of want to do :P |
| 07:59.13 | Tybusen | 99% of the individuals on the planet will probably die without a legacy, but if you can create a legacy worth remembering within 50 years, that's one of the beauties of humanity |
| 08:00.13 | Tybusen | This is a reason why I do not strongly believe in an afterlife; the fear of death is what motivates humans to make the most of what little time they have |
| 08:00.42 | Tybusen | We call them deadlines for a reason :U |
| 08:00.51 | Angrybirds_Air | lol |
| 08:01.12 | Angrybirds_Air | That reminds me of something else, actually... |
| 08:01.56 | Angrybirds_Air | “I mean, they say you die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time.” - Banksy. |
| 08:02.20 | Angrybirds_Air | Apparently I'm full of depressing quotes. xD |
| 08:02.36 | Tybusen | A little bit of poignancy isn't bad |
| 08:03.12 | Tybusen | It allows you to face the facts of life in a calm, composed manner |
| 08:03.24 | Angrybirds_Air | ^ |
| 08:04.27 | Angrybirds_Air | That doesn't mean I wouldn't live forever if I had the chance. ^.^ |
| 08:06.00 | Tybusen | Some poignancy to see life as it is, some humor to disperse the heaviness of life, some logic to know how and why life is, some faith to sustain hope in the face of overwhelming odds. |
| 08:06.42 | Tybusen | Immortality would suck unless you were a sociopath who would be totally fine with no friends |
| 08:08.04 | Aeo | Tybusen: That's EARTH Immortality |
| 08:08.18 | Aeo | I trust God to be able to make heaven not wear off. |
| 08:08.32 | Tybusen | Sure, maybe you get over the deaths of all your friends and family after some time, but the way I see it, living forever would make you incredibly distant from society |
| 08:09.18 | Angrybirds_Air | *would be totally fine with no friends* |
| 08:09.23 | Imperios2 | That's why I would personally choose reincarnation over immortality |
| 08:10.41 | Tybusen | Something that unnerves me about the concept of Heaven is that I've heard it described as a realm of no desire... Heaven would seem like a very creepily stagnant place from a certain angle |
| 08:11.17 | Tybusen | People with no desires would seem like empty shells to me, and that creeps me out |
| 08:13.16 | Tybusen | Also, it's funny that you talk about immortality, I just saw The Wolverine |
| 08:13.23 | Aeo | Well... There is no UNFULFILLED desire |
| 08:14.04 | Tybusen | Ah... that sounds a lot more like a Heaven to me |
| 08:15.27 | Imperios2 | But that's just plain creepy |
| 08:16.05 | Imperios2 | If my every desire is fulfilled, then I have no aspirations, no wishes |
| 08:16.19 | Tybusen | But the same thing with a world of no desire |
| 08:16.20 | Imperios2 | That'd be a hollow life |
| 08:16.30 | Tybusen | People with no desires also have no aspiration or wishes |
| 08:17.10 | Tybusen | The difference I think that makes a "no-unfulfilled" desire Heaven more desirable than a simply "no desire" Heaven is that people with desires can have emotion |
| 08:18.00 | Tybusen | A person with no desires cannot feel happiness for having a desire fulfilled, nor anger or sadness for having their desires unmet |
| 08:19.18 | Tybusen | At least a person whose desires are fulfilled feels contentment, although I'll admit it may be superficial since self-fulfillment is a much stronger positive emotion than simple contentment |
| 08:32.27 | Imperios2 | Hm |
| 08:32.33 | Imperios2 | How is "Maleficient" pronounced? |
| 08:33.08 | Imperios2 | Is it "Mah-leh-FEE-shent" or "Mah-LEH-fee-sent"? |
| 08:37.45 | Tybusen | Second one, I believe |
| 08:37.49 | Angrybirds_Air | Night people. |
| 08:38.38 | Aeo | 2ed |
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| 08:48.22 | dino__ | helllo |
| 08:52.39 | Tybusen | Ello Dino |
| 08:54.10 | dino__ | :D |
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| 09:00.38 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 09:25.35 | dino__ | hello |
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| 09:30.42 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 09:32.17 | Aeo | Idea: Get my brother a dress for Christmas. |
| 09:33.34 | dino__ | a dress???? |
| 09:34.32 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 09:34.54 | Aeo | Yes, a Dress |
| 09:35.02 | Aeo | The clothing item. |
| 09:37.48 | dino__ | yeah I undestand :D |
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| 11:09.57 | dino__ | ho! |
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| 12:05.20 | Monet | Gello |
| 12:05.23 | Monet | Hello |
| 12:08.01 | Monet | Fuck. Spent a good hour trying to make marine armour using Dark Injection without unlimited parts - still won't save |
| 12:08.20 | Xho | What editor are you using? |
| 12:08.47 | Monet | I browsed forums and it's suggesting my problem is I have the Steam version of the game |
| 12:08.53 | Xho | Ah right |
| 12:08.57 | Xho | That would make sense |
| 12:09.31 | Monet | Spent a good hour making this and I couldn't save http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/20/Draconis_Marine_New2.png |
| 12:10.01 | Xho | That's pretty impressive though |
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| 12:10.55 | Monet | I feel like updating the picture I have of the three marines |
| 12:14.19 | Aeo | That marine looks stupid. |
| 12:14.32 | Aeo | Like he belongs in tron |
| 12:14.35 | Xho | Shitstorm in 3 2 1 |
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| 12:15.40 | Xho | u |
| 12:15.44 | OluapPlayer | u |
| 12:19.34 | Xho | Right what to do |
| 12:20.17 | Monet | Using a metal plate and cameras instead of a classig visor is genius imo. |
| 12:20.23 | OluapPlayer | stoof |
| 12:20.27 | Xho | "stoof" |
| 12:20.28 | Xho | rite |
| 12:20.42 | OluapPlayer | Is the Shiarchon page done? |
| 12:21.05 | Xho | I think so |
| 12:21.09 | Xho | I can't think of anything to add |
| 12:21.22 | Monet | Problem with transparent visors these days is it's the weakest area that happens to cover the point where a bullet is most likely to kill you |
| 12:21.37 | OluapPlayer | idunno then |
| 12:26.02 | Xho | Well then I am bored |
| 12:26.27 | OluapPlayer | Time to go back to Skyrim and finish this Thieves Guild questline |
| 12:26.29 | OluapPlayer | Damn this is boring hur |
| 12:27.09 | Xho | Thieves Guild is probably the most boring questline |
| 12:27.32 | Xho | Although I think I am still on the Companions questline and I'm like level 100 |
| 12:27.55 | dino__ | be have to leave |
| 12:27.57 | dino__ | see ya ll next time |
| 12:27.57 | dino__ | be |
| 12:28.48 | OluapSkyrim | Only interesting bit so far was the whole business with Nocturnia or however that thing's called |
| 12:28.56 | OluapSkyrim | That's a Draeda right? |
| 12:29.18 | Xho | Nocturnal |
| 12:29.21 | Xho | And Daedra yes |
| 12:29.38 | OluapSkyrim | This is the second Draeda I come across |
| 12:29.47 | Xho | daedra dam u |
| 12:29.47 | OluapSkyrim | I had a mission with Azura in it previously |
| 12:29.54 | OluapSkyrim | rite |
| 12:30.09 | OluapSkyrim | When do I get to meet Sheogorath hur |
| 12:30.17 | Xho | Yeah the Daedra quests are really just random chance things |
| 12:30.19 | Monet | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAQdiEvlXsM let's get pumped |
| 12:30.27 | Xho | Sheogorath? |
| 12:30.28 | Xho | Hm |
| 12:30.37 | Xho | If you want to find him you have to go to Solitude |
| 12:30.58 | Xho | That's all I will say because more info might be spoilers |
| 12:31.05 | OluapSkyrim | rite |
| 12:31.12 | OluapSkyrim | I'll see if I can find him by myself |
| 12:31.26 | OluapSkyrim | gotta eet cheese with santomann |
| 12:33.01 | *** join/#sporewiki Hachi__ (6d9ddbc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.157.219.197) |
| 12:33.05 | Hachi__ | Hai |
| 12:33.10 | Monet | Hi mate |
| 12:34.01 | OluapSkyrim | u |
| 12:34.24 | OluapSkyrim | Hachi__: https://vine.co/v/hPd5rImv1Ea and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6tOGAYUyCk |
| 12:35.11 | Hachi__ | olol jon |
| 12:38.28 | Technobliterator | I was just watching that video hur |
| 12:40.11 | Hachi__ | Man I love Jon's singing |
| 12:40.56 | *** join/#sporewiki Wormy (569b3cb1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.155.60.177) |
| 12:41.02 | Wormy | hi |
| 12:52.35 | Xho | http://xho3546.deviantart.com/art/Cosmic-Nightmare-417103821?ga_submit_new=10%253A1385902337 My new favourite fractal of mine |
| 12:53.34 | Wormy | impressive |
| 12:53.53 | OluapSkyrim | frocotol |
| 12:53.58 | OluapSkyrim | froctol even |
| 12:54.27 | Xho | That would be another good album cover |
| 12:54.32 | Xho | Reminds me of Muse covers a bit but meh |
| 12:54.37 | Xho | I like Muse so deal with it fgts |
| 12:55.22 | Wormy | 4D mandlebulb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sojcs5yhHI |
| 12:55.59 | Xho | Wormy: Santorakh's cheese |
| 12:56.21 | Wormy | infinite cheese |
| 12:58.39 | Xho_Lucnh | Lucnh |
| 12:58.41 | Xho_Lucnh | Deal with it |
| 13:00.20 | Wormy | sounds like a death metal band |
| 13:01.36 | Hachi__ | More like black metal |
| 13:02.45 | Hachi__ | Also I like how both Dini and Cyrannian have put fantasy aspects into their fiction |
| 13:02.47 | Hachi__ | Elves and witches |
| 13:03.08 | OluapSkyrim | I have both on a single character hur |
| 13:04.33 | Hachi__ | Imp and I have been working out an elvish equivalent to the Empire of Man |
| 13:04.34 | Hachi__ | Not bad guys hur |
| 13:05.56 | OluapSkyrim | What a miracle |
| 13:06.42 | *** join/#sporewiki LawfulInsane (01242d36@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.1.36.45.54) |
| 13:06.43 | LawfulInsane | Hello. |
| 13:08.03 | Hachi__ | In fact their goals are more aligned with ridding the mainlands of the xenophobic attitude |
| 13:08.18 | Hachi__ | So they're made up of deiwos and are allies of various non-deiwos |
| 13:08.51 | OluapSkyrim | So much miracle |
| 13:09.36 | Hachi__ | wow |
| 13:20.08 | LawfulInsane | tis a quiet IRC |
| 13:26.57 | Xho | such miracle |
| 13:26.58 | Xho | wow |
| 13:27.03 | Xho | many luvs |
| 13:27.06 | OluapSkyrim | Die |
| 13:27.18 | Xho | such NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH |
| 13:28.27 | Wormy | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tantummodo_Mortem/Mass_Armageddon#Rambo_Impatience |
| 13:28.42 | Hachi__ | [ANGRY BIRD NOISES] |
| 13:28.53 | Wormy | Xho, would you want to join in as the Old Congregation? |
| 13:29.03 | Xho | Suppose I could |
| 13:29.04 | OluapSkyrim | olol |
| 13:30.03 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 13:30.20 | LawfulInsane | hi |
| 13:30.40 | Xho | Oh god Mass Armageddon physical Xhodocto |
| 13:31.18 | OluapSkyrim | Pretty sure the Xhodocto themselves are not involved in this Congregation |
| 13:31.35 | Xho | sry but who made da congregashun |
| 13:31.46 | OluapSkyrim | sry but dis not ur section |
| 13:31.55 | *** join/#sporewiki Cyrannian (5f2c0c3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.44.12.59) |
| 13:31.55 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Cyrannian] by ChanServ |
| 13:32.07 | LawfulInsane | Hello. |
| 13:32.18 | Xho | sry but whoz story arc is dis |
| 13:32.29 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 13:32.29 | OluapSkyrim | Jo's hur |
| 13:32.40 | Xho | under whoz story saga is dat den |
| 13:32.53 | OluapSkyrim | Jo's hur |
| 13:33.12 | Xho | Tantummodo Mortem dam u who dat |
| 13:33.24 | OluapPlayer | Dino came up with the section so you should still talk to him |
| 13:33.28 | Xho | True |
| 13:33.43 | Xho | Hypothetically speaking Congregation Xhodocto shouldn't exist anyway |
| 13:34.05 | OluapPlayer | c y ur bein dum den |
| 13:34.08 | OluapPlayer | throws Xho about |
| 13:34.21 | Xho | cuz lols and trols |
| 13:34.59 | Hachi__ | "Deiwos culture typically revolves around the veneration of nature. In many societies this is connected to the worship of the Source, which is considered to be a fundamental aspect of the universe. The Source is often represented as a deity, one example being the Goddess in the Dio-Eigtantia philosophy of the Urindalë." |
| 13:35.06 | Hachi__ | Yakshrapala - who dis bitch |
| 13:35.29 | Xho | Caligaduro - u u cross dressin fgt |
| 13:36.37 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 13:36.39 | Hachi__ | Hmm |
| 13:36.39 | Hachi__ | That does make me wonder if Yakshrapala has ever taken the role of a deity |
| 13:36.42 | Hachi__ | Well |
| 13:36.44 | Xho | Little did we know, the past 15,000 years in Koldenwelt's greatest war is just a word contest between Yakshrapala and Caligaduro to see who could get the most snaps out of each other |
| 13:36.53 | Hachi__ | hur |
| 13:37.06 | Hachi__ | Yak is a deity |
| 13:37.06 | Hachi__ | But I mean as... another deity |
| 13:37.13 | OluapPlayer | Caligaduro - well ur moms fat Yakshrapala - ;A; |
| 13:37.22 | Hachi__ | Well, Yak isn't a deity |
| 13:37.23 | Hachi__ | It's hard to explain |
| 13:37.38 | Xho | Yak is a force of nature |
| 13:37.43 | Hachi__ | Yeah, pretty much |
| 13:37.55 | Xho | silly person u can write paragraphs of describing yet u cant do dat |
| 13:37.58 | OluapPlayer | Considering the setting I'd say he's both |
| 13:38.13 | Hachi__ | Makes sense |
| 13:38.30 | OluapPlayer | And I'm gonna make another colossus cus its fun and no one can stop me hur |
| 13:38.41 | Hachi__ | but colossus overload |
| 13:38.42 | Xho | colossus of wat |
| 13:38.46 | Monet | We need more mortal characters though |
| 13:38.54 | OluapPlayer | colossus of dik in ur mouth |
| 13:38.55 | Hachi__ | Colossus of WEEEEEEIIIIIINNEEEEERRRR |
| 13:38.58 | OluapPlayer | c |
| 13:38.58 | Hachi__ | Well |
| 13:39.13 | Ghel | Nah. Let's just get rid of all mortal characters and replace them with Colossi. |
| 13:39.14 | Xho | Colossus of Homosexuality, incarnate rainbows and is venerated in Koldenwelt gay pride parades, quite obviously shunned in the Empire of Man |
| 13:39.28 | OluapPlayer | We have much more races than colossi |
| 13:39.36 | Xho | I dunno why I said that but deal with it |
| 13:39.37 | OluapPlayer | What we need is more not-evil races |
| 13:39.47 | Monet | Yeah but how many have active characters? |
| 13:39.50 | Hachi__ | Edifice - dude ur gay dats liek embarassing |
| 13:40.04 | OluapPlayer | Which is why I like the idea of supa-hapi elf land |
| 13:40.09 | Hachi__ | yeh |
| 13:40.40 | Hachi__ | My first idea for their allies would be African-inspired dog people |
| 13:40.48 | OluapPlayer | I do feel like making a Sand Drake race for the desert |
| 13:40.55 | OluapPlayer | They should be buddies with the Merovar |
| 13:40.56 | Hachi__ | snake peepul |
| 13:41.13 | OluapPlayer | The Elves I mean |
| 13:41.20 | Hachi__ | O rite |
| 13:41.25 | Hachi__ | Yeah that should happen |
| 13:41.43 | Xho | Hm what ot od |
| 13:41.45 | Xho | *do |
| 13:41.46 | Xho | to* |
| 13:41.55 | Hachi__ | hm whot to do |
| 13:42.14 | Xho | hm whit ti di |
| 13:42.23 | Hachi__ | hm whut tu du |
| 13:42.47 | OluapPlayer | Well I think we could expand on the X Drake thing as a whole |
| 13:43.01 | OluapPlayer | Hachi__: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z91jxVCuDdI gud moosic |
| 13:43.11 | Xho | So we have |
| 13:43.13 | Hachi__ | yeh we need moar dragun peepul |
| 13:43.16 | Xho | Storm, Sun, Frost, Sand |
| 13:43.20 | Xho | Fire |
| 13:43.41 | OluapPlayer | I made the first Fire Drake on the wiki so I claim dis hur |
| 13:43.52 | Hachi__ | I wanna make ancient plant drakes |
| 13:43.58 | Hachi__ | tree draguns |
| 13:44.02 | OluapPlayer | Flower Drake |
| 13:44.05 | Xho | OluapPlayer: who dat |
| 13:44.12 | OluapPlayer | Kimorgos u dingus |
| 13:44.14 | Xho | rite |
| 13:44.28 | Xho | By the looks of it the Storm and Sun Drakes are like the only proper dragons hur |
| 13:44.40 | Hachi__ | Lunscinth |
| 13:44.44 | Xho | Nalúnt - ;A; y u all walkin on two feet |
| 13:44.49 | Hachi__ | They're proper asian draguns |
| 13:45.29 | OluapPlayer | If you mean they mean quadrupedal, so was Kimorgos before he got turned into an undead |
| 13:45.37 | OluapPlayer | *they were |
| 13:45.50 | Xho | Nalúnt - ;A; y u all walkin on two feet |
| 13:45.55 | Monet | Also Draonoggr can switch between walking on two and four feet |
| 13:46.18 | Xho | Nalúnt - ;A; y u all walkin on two feet |
| 13:46.23 | Xho | This can go on all day hur |
| 13:46.31 | OluapPlayer | Shut up before I stab you |
| 13:46.32 | OluapPlayer | Anyway |
| 13:46.47 | Xho | u wat nao son |
| 13:47.00 | OluapPlayer | I imagine the Sand Drakes having no front legs |
| 13:47.03 | OluapPlayer | Like Skyrim's dragons |
| 13:47.16 | Hachi__ | Wings fer hands |
| 13:47.20 | OluapPlayer | Yeh |
| 13:47.21 | Xho | Nalúnt - gettin bored of dis |
| 13:47.21 | Hachi__ | They're wyverns then |
| 13:47.39 | OluapPlayer | I was looking for that word |
| 13:47.49 | OluapPlayer | I was thinking of Wyrm but I wasn't sure if it was correct |
| 13:47.53 | Hachi__ | Well |
| 13:48.07 | Hachi__ | Wyrm is interchangeable with any dragon/wyvern/big reptile |
| 13:48.15 | OluapPlayer | Oh |
| 13:48.16 | OluapPlayer | rite |
| 13:48.25 | Hachi__ | It ultimately refers to "serpents" nonetheless |
| 13:48.31 | Xho | http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130522172845/spore/images/5/59/KoldenweltFrostDrake.png like dis |
| 13:48.31 | Hachi__ | Serpent - wormz boi |
| 13:48.48 | Hachi__ | Xho: noh not like dat |
| 13:48.58 | Xho | yeh liek dat deel wit it |
| 13:49.21 | OluapPlayer | Sand Drakes wouldn't be that large, would be rather greedy creatures and either serve Almonohuim or are his favorite prey |
| 13:49.28 | OluapPlayer | *would either |
| 13:49.43 | Hachi__ | Perhaps they revere him as a sorta god |
| 13:49.51 | Hachi__ | And he eats them anyway hur |
| 13:50.05 | OluapPlayer | Scumbag Colossus |
| 13:50.14 | Xho | Shadow Drakes are Chimera so not natural |
| 13:50.22 | Hachi__ | Xho: http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091216084747/monsterhunter/images/b/bc/Espina.png I think Oluap means like dis |
| 13:50.23 | OluapPlayer | Atrocius - ma bros |
| 13:50.39 | OluapPlayer | Yes that's what I mean |
| 13:50.45 | Xho | Nalúnt - since wen did ma bros look liek dum fgts |
| 13:51.05 | OluapPlayer | Atrocius - shush u ur ma masters bootlik nao |
| 13:51.19 | Xho | Ambhíqolosemos - eye |
| 13:51.27 | Hachi__ | Yakshrapala - wot |
| 13:51.35 | Xho | Ambhíqolosemos - not u |
| 13:52.07 | Xho | Ambhíqolosemos might be a Chimera now technically |
| 13:52.09 | OluapPlayer | About the Fire Drakes, I imagine Atrocius drove them to near extinction but you can occasionally come across some |
| 13:52.42 | OluapPlayer | I can more or less imagine a drake race for each Colossus |
| 13:52.50 | OluapPlayer | Except Machine cus that's too hipster |
| 13:52.52 | Hachi__ | Machine drakes |
| 13:53.00 | OluapPlayer | noh i sed fuk u |
| 13:53.05 | Xho | Caligaduro - stoopid fgt clocktwerk drakes |
| 13:53.06 | Hachi__ | fuk u doin dis |
| 13:53.27 | OluapPlayer | Created by DF-inspired dwarves |
| 13:53.39 | Hachi__ | olol |
| 13:53.50 | Hachi__ | If I do make machine drakes |
| 13:53.51 | Hachi__ | I imagine they won't be anywhere near as powerful as other drakes |
| 13:53.53 | Xho | Sun Drakes would be Soldalatel's dragons whilst Storm Drakes would be Aethereus' dragons |
| 13:54.06 | Xho | Shadow Drakes is self explanatory |
| 13:54.20 | OluapPlayer | Tangilaruka's drakes |
| 13:54.20 | Hachi__ | Caligaduro - i am god of black peepul draguns |
| 13:54.25 | OluapPlayer | Angriest of the lot |
| 13:54.34 | Xho | Water Drakes |
| 13:54.40 | Hachi__ | aka Khrokar |
| 13:54.49 | OluapPlayer | Khrokar are shark peepul, not dragons |
| 13:54.50 | Xho | Breathes water like a motherfucker |
| 13:54.55 | Hachi__ | olol |
| 13:55.07 | OluapPlayer | Sharktopi peepul |
| 13:55.09 | Xho | I might have Frost Drakes and then True Frost Drakes |
| 13:55.20 | Ghel | Drakes are becoming more common than Kelodhres now. |
| 13:55.33 | OluapPlayer | Drakes would be Kelodhres though |
| 13:55.50 | Cyrannian | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.59 | OluapPlayer | No dam u go make me a sammich |
| 13:56.03 | Hachi__ | Cyrannian already made dino peepul |
| 13:56.03 | Hachi__ | All we got left are dragons |
| 13:56.13 | Hachi__ | And Imp already made Klaxxa too hur |
| 13:56.56 | OluapPlayer | Phraedra Meketanor |
| 13:57.04 | OluapPlayer | Meketanor - im his favoriteok u all best remember dat |
| 13:57.28 | Xho | So their names in PIE |
| 13:57.42 | Hachi__ | Pielossus |
| 13:57.45 | OluapPlayer | Pie dra |
| 13:57.48 | OluapPlayer | Pie Drake |
| 13:57.57 | Hachi__ | Colossus of Food |
| 13:58.04 | OluapPlayer | aka Santorakh |
| 13:58.12 | Hachi__ | Santolossus |
| 13:58.24 | LawfulInsane | Cyrannian: c my question |
| 13:59.08 | Monet | Cyrannian: Interesting concept, chilling as well. Would the first Phaedra be every acolyte in that room or just the ones who have proven most effective so far. |
| 13:59.49 | Xho | Sun: Sā́welkelodhros Storm: Mbhroskelodhros Fire: Ecniskelodhros Sand: Samdhoskelodhros Water: Aqākelodhros Frost: Pruswā́kelodhros |
| 14:00.02 | OluapPlayer | noh |
| 14:00.09 | OluapPlayer | Fire: Bob Sand: Bub |
| 14:00.11 | Xho | yus fgt deel wit it |
| 14:00.21 | LawfulInsane | hur |
| 14:00.32 | Cyrannian | Monet: Everyone in the room at the time |
| 14:00.40 | Monet | Right. |
| 14:00.43 | Cyrannian | LawfulInsane: I answered your question |
| 14:00.49 | Xho | Actually I might remake Nalúnt |
| 14:00.57 | Xho | I could make a far more intimidating dragon than that |
| 14:01.09 | OluapPlayer | Now to make this Sand Drake in Spore |
| 14:01.16 | OluapPlayer | I'm expecting this to be really difficult |
| 14:01.22 | LawfulInsane | Cyrannian: In that case I wanna plan something. |
| 14:01.27 | Xho | So, are we calling them 'True Dragons' then |
| 14:01.40 | Xho | Well no scratch that |
| 14:01.45 | Xho | We are calling them True Dragons |
| 14:02.07 | Xho | As for Shadow Drakes their name would be...not sure |
| 14:02.09 | OluapPlayer | I was gonna suggest Original Dragons but I suppose those would ahve the same meaning anyway |
| 14:02.10 | Cyrannian | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:02.22 | Xho | Unksrākelodhros |
| 14:02.30 | Hachi__ | Good looking Phaedra |
| 14:02.34 | Xho | Cyrannian: noic |
| 14:02.42 | OluapPlayer | looks ugly like ur OM |
| 14:02.44 | OluapPlayer | MOM even |
| 14:02.50 | Xho | dun call me ugli |
| 14:02.53 | Xho | fgt |
| 14:02.54 | Cyrannian | ur mom 2 cus hivemind |
| 14:03.07 | OluapPlayer | c Xho is double ugly |
| 14:03.15 | Xho | Triple cuz I am my own mother |
| 14:03.17 | Xho | wait wat |
| 14:03.18 | Xho | NOOH |
| 14:03.27 | LawfulInsane | wat |
| 14:03.29 | Hachi__ | an i am mothafucka |
| 14:03.32 | Hachi__ | dat meens |
| 14:03.33 | Hachi__ | well |
| 14:03.35 | Hachi__ | U KNOW WAT DAT MEENZ |
| 14:03.42 | OluapPlayer | ew |
| 14:03.50 | LawfulInsane | WHAT |
| 14:03.55 | Monet | I've actually been wondering for a while if acolytes could ever gain a higher rank |
| 14:04.20 | Xho | Right need a new section for this then hur |
| 14:04.39 | Monet | Since the word "acolyte" suggests they're being trained for a greater role. |
| 14:05.01 | Cyrannian | Indeed, there will be ranks in the Phradra |
| 14:09.18 | Xho | "Connected to Spore Server" |
| 14:09.19 | Xho | lol |
| 14:09.21 | Xho | wat server |
| 14:09.44 | LawfulInsane | Does spore even have a server? |
| 14:10.06 | Monet | I think i've said before, I'm opening up the DI's noble roster to all users if they want to make a noble. |
| 14:11.10 | Monet | So far 3/7 listed Draconid nobles have been made by other users |
| 14:12.24 | Monet | 3/11 if you include Draconid nobles I have yet ot list |
| 14:14.57 | Monet | Given the DI has +70 sectors and dozens of grand houses, there's planety of room if anyone is considering making one |
| 14:16.14 | LawfulInsane | Bye |
| 14:19.34 | Ghel | Last night, I looked at the old Congregation vehicle pages to see how modern ships could deal with them in Mass Armageddon. There's only one decent reference to toughness, where the Guardian apparently has "90,000,000" HP. Such a ship could withstand anything from a small vessel's torpedo barrage for 2.5 hours (although it would probably manage to fire back in that time), to a particularly big hyperlaser for 2.25 seconds. |
| 14:23.40 | Monet | Yes! I think i've cracked my "game won't save creatures with DI parts" issue |
| 14:26.36 | Hachi__ | So I'll be making an elvish race for the Dryadali Sovereign |
| 14:26.37 | Hachi__ | They came out more femboyish than I wanted them to |
| 14:27.07 | OluapPlayer | http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/3c/Sand_Drake.png damn this was hard as fuck to make |
| 14:27.23 | Hachi__ | Damn, that looks good |
| 14:27.45 | Monet | Oh very nice, that is incredible! |
| 14:28.23 | OluapPlayer | daww thanks |
| 14:28.24 | OluapPlayer | brb |
| 14:29.00 | Technobliterator | is very gud |
| 14:29.04 | Xho | Wow that is a good dragon |
| 14:29.13 | Technobliterator | like woah |
| 14:32.12 | OluapPlayer | Nom's not ready yet |
| 14:32.32 | OluapPlayer | And good thing you all liked it, making that was a nightmare hur |
| 14:36.32 | Xho | Even I liked it |
| 14:36.33 | Xho | LOVE ME |
| 14:36.35 | Xho | LOVE ME NAO |
| 14:36.41 | OluapPlayer | loves Xho |
| 14:42.29 | OluapPlayer | I need a name for the Sand Drake leader |
| 14:42.44 | Hachi__ | As in a dragon-y name? |
| 14:43.15 | OluapPlayer | Well he's a dragon, of course his name should be dragon-y hur |
| 14:46.47 | OluapPlayer | Also my idea is that they were around back when the Sohet were still alive but back then, their numbers were really low |
| 14:47.01 | OluapPlayer | And after the Sohet war they began breeding like rabbits |
| 14:47.05 | Hachi__ | hur |
| 14:47.12 | Hachi__ | They could have fed on Sohet corpses |
| 14:47.35 | OluapPlayer | Sand Drake - TURKEY LUNCH |
| 14:47.48 | Xho | Spore crashed |
| 14:47.52 | OluapPlayer | Now nom |
| 14:47.54 | Xho | Oh well Storm Drake remains the same |
| 14:49.58 | Xho | It was looking really good as well |
| 14:54.41 | Monet | http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/20/Draconis_Marine_New2.png new version |
| 14:55.39 | Monet | ALso this one has a PNG now. |
| 14:56.15 | Technobliterator | I'm not sure about dragon-y names |
| 14:56.31 | Technobliterator | try this http://dragon.namegeneratorfun.com/ |
| 14:56.36 | Xho | Samdhoskelodhros dam u |
| 14:56.51 | OluapPlayer | That's the name for the race |
| 14:56.54 | OluapPlayer | I need a character name |
| 14:56.56 | Xho | rite |
| 14:57.03 | Xho | "Sandy" |
| 14:57.04 | Technobliterator | I got Yeqoquo |
| 14:57.07 | OluapPlayer | dum |
| 14:57.11 | Hachi__ | Spyro |
| 14:57.14 | Hachi__ | Sandro |
| 14:57.19 | OluapPlayer | I'm gonna go for Vixaatus |
| 14:57.24 | Hachi__ | yeh |
| 14:57.29 | Technobliterator | fine den |
| 14:57.38 | Xho | Spuro |
| 14:57.46 | Technobliterator | I want to be involved in more fantasyverse stories |
| 14:57.58 | Hachi__ | Spermo |
| 14:58.07 | Xho | Dummo |
| 14:58.16 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Sea_of_Sand#Sapients dere |
| 14:58.42 | Monet | Actually I see a bonus to keeping the marine as a creature: He's easily poseable. |
| 15:01.49 | Xho | I'm adding a list of True Dragons on the Kelodhros page |
| 15:01.54 | Xho | That is their race names |
| 15:03.20 | Technobliterator | hey guys |
| 15:03.37 | Technobliterator | I'm at a point where I can bring Mass Armageddon to a conclusion |
| 15:03.49 | Technobliterator | which will be in one final story rp |
| 15:04.02 | Monet | bbl |
| 15:04.11 | Technobliterator | anyone who wants to join can |
| 15:04.12 | Xho | I'm pretty sure everyone has a lot of story arcs in Mass Armageddon they want done |
| 15:04.27 | Hachi__ | Jah |
| 15:04.37 | Technobliterator | nothing's stopping people from going back to them after |
| 15:05.48 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Are Fire Drakes extinct then |
| 15:06.02 | OluapPlayer | Not extinct but close to |
| 15:06.24 | Hachi__ | So endangered |
| 15:06.30 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 15:07.26 | Technobliterator | spore y u so expensive on steam |
| 15:08.52 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kelodhros There we go |
| 15:10.18 | OluapPlayer | is gud |
| 15:10.23 | Xho | Any more that I can add |
| 15:10.25 | Xho | Hm |
| 15:10.26 | Xho | Earth Drake |
| 15:10.29 | Xho | Sky Drake |
| 15:10.39 | OluapPlayer | http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/74/Vixaatus.png Sand Derk leedur |
| 15:11.12 | Xho | rudeel |
| 15:11.24 | Hachi__ | looks gurd |
| 15:11.57 | OluapPlayer | Now let's see if I can make a Fire Drake |
| 15:12.49 | Xho | Hm what else |
| 15:13.53 | Xho | Time Drake hur |
| 15:14.11 | Hachi__ | Chronodrake |
| 15:14.36 | Xho | Chronodrake - copycat dumbo |
| 15:19.06 | Xho | Right what else |
| 15:21.27 | Xho | One thing |
| 15:22.16 | Technobliterator | bbl |
| 15:24.02 | Xho | Actually no nothing |
| 15:25.57 | Hachi__ | dum |
| 15:27.48 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kelodhros#True_Dragons Right there |
| 15:30.00 | Hachi__ | I do wonder if Koldenwelt is able to support deities outside of Yak, Calig, Drakes and the Colossi |
| 15:30.28 | Xho | Probably |
| 15:31.18 | Hachi__ | I imagine most deities, if there are any, would be either Source-made or beings who have great power over the Source |
| 15:32.31 | Ghel | The earliest idea was that most deities and deity-like beings were various thoughtforms and ascended beings. |
| 15:32.55 | Hachi__ | Thing is almost nobody has explored these hur |
| 15:33.24 | Hachi__ | I mean, I imagine most elves would have a pantheon of their own or something |
| 15:33.44 | Xho | Orichalcum Elves had their own pantheon |
| 15:34.02 | Xho | Then they went all psychotic and started to believe that Caligaduro was their god |
| 15:35.08 | Xho | That being said, the entire Koldenwelt planet page needs to be redone |
| 15:37.48 | OluapPlayer | One thing I wanted to suggest was get rid of the "Epics" from the races page |
| 15:37.58 | OluapPlayer | Since that section ir more or less pointless |
| 15:38.01 | Xho | Colossi - dun call us dat fgty naem |
| 15:38.36 | Xho | I feel like making a planet image for Koldenwelt |
| 15:40.36 | Xho | It would also be good if there was more attention on the map image and then put land areas under it |
| 15:54.54 | OluapPlayer | http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/2f/Fire_Drake.png foyah dergon |
| 15:55.13 | Hachi__ | Hmm |
| 15:55.17 | Xho | doyah fergon |
| 15:55.23 | Hachi__ | I'd say make the front shoulders larger and it'd be perfect |
| 15:58.08 | OluapPlayer | http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/2f/Fire_Drake.png rite I made the front shoulders larger |
| 15:58.09 | Xho | Randomly found £22 worth of change in my bedroom |
| 15:58.26 | Hachi__ | Much better |
| 15:58.27 | Xho | tis much better |
| 15:58.46 | Hachi__ | Xho: I hope it's all in 1ps |
| 15:58.54 | Xho | Actually £2 coins |
| 15:59.19 | Hachi__ | It'd still knock you out if I was to drop it all on your dum hed |
| 15:59.59 | OluapPlayer | So Kimorgos looked like that once |
| 16:00.07 | OluapPlayer | Now he's a teeny man |
| 16:00.24 | Hachi__ | hur |
| 16:00.26 | Hachi__ | babby dragon |
| 16:00.39 | Hachi__ | babby zombie |
| 16:02.02 | OluapPlayer | Remind me, how long ago was the Sohet war? |
| 16:02.36 | Hachi__ | Hmm |
| 16:02.45 | Hachi__ | I'm gonna have to think |
| 16:03.54 | Hachi__ | I'd say it would have took place 250,000 years ago |
| 16:04.07 | Hachi__ | Somewhere around there |
| 16:04.27 | OluapPlayer | rite |
| 16:04.42 | Xho | Kinmorunddraver - and here was I thinking everything was chill back then |
| 16:04.44 | OluapPlayer | Vixxatus is pretty old then, cause he was born back then hur |
| 16:04.50 | Hachi__ | Somehow I can imagine the Sea Giants and the Sohet having a funny relationship |
| 16:05.21 | OluapPlayer | Sea Giants - lol look at dem goofy burds |
| 16:05.33 | Hachi__ | Sohet - lol look at dem goofy fish |
| 16:06.52 | OluapPlayer | What do you mean with that |
| 16:07.33 | Hachi__ | That Sohet were willing to return insults hur |
| 16:07.40 | Hachi__ | Before Zazane came and ate them |
| 16:08.19 | OluapPlayer | I mean what do you mean with funny relationship |
| 16:08.55 | Hachi__ | Oh rite |
| 16:09.03 | Hachi__ | Well one ruled the seas, the over the desert |
| 16:09.09 | Hachi__ | Complete opposites |
| 16:09.37 | Hachi__ | Both were technologically advanced and had great Source potential |
| 16:09.52 | Hachi__ | And both have descendants that look for their tech |
| 16:09.55 | Hachi__ | And their magic |
| 16:16.37 | Hachi__ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Aeitheranna_Elves.png look at dese |
| 16:17.21 | Hachi__ | And yes they're men |
| 16:17.29 | Hachi__ | Well, male elves |
| 16:17.46 | OluapPlayer | Albino elves |
| 16:18.04 | OluapPlayer | btw can we say the Zazane killed off a good portion of the Sand Drakes back during the war? |
| 16:18.33 | Hachi__ | Jah |
| 16:18.49 | Hachi__ | They killed off a lot of desert life |
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| 16:25.23 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 16:25.30 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 16:32.36 | Xho | http://www.loler.me/storage/4/1365258722.jpg How Hachi deals with breakups |
| 16:34.12 | Hachi__ | ohgodlol |
| 16:34.44 | OluapPlayer | Also works for Oluap |
| 16:35.31 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Vixaatus paeg is done |
| 16:35.33 | OluapPlayer | quotes nao |
| 16:36.15 | Xho | y caligaduro not on relashuns |
| 16:36.53 | OluapPlayer | cus caligaduro dumsaurus |
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| 16:37.08 | Technobliterator | hii |
| 16:37.35 | OluapPlayer | dumba |
| 16:38.18 | OluapPlayer | dere I added caligadum |
| 16:39.01 | Xho | and phoenix mann |
| 16:39.05 | Xho | dey all fwends |
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| 16:39.38 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 16:39.45 | OluapPlayer | adfssadf |
| 16:39.53 | OluapPlayer | quote dis first |
| 16:39.54 | OluapPlayer | hello |
| 16:40.08 | OluapPlayer | Monet: http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/2f/Fire_Drake.png and http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Vixaatus chek |
| 16:40.50 | Xho | dere quoted u 69 faggaton bomb |
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| 16:42.05 | OluapPlayer | So what would be his relation with phoenix mann |
| 16:42.23 | dino__ | hello |
| 16:42.30 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 16:42.52 | Technobliterator | hey dino__; I'm thinking of making the conclusion to Mass Armageddon today, though you can finish your story after the conclusion is added if you need to/if you won't be able to finish ittoday |
| 16:43.05 | OluapPlayer | that Khep quote |
| 16:43.16 | Hachi__ | yeh |
| 16:43.16 | OluapPlayer | And then there were drakes everywhere on the pharaoh's city |
| 16:43.20 | Hachi__ | hur |
| 16:43.37 | Xho | Relationship with Kinmorunddraver |
| 16:43.38 | Xho | Hm |
| 16:43.41 | Xho | Ally/Neutral |
| 16:44.15 | Xho | Kinmorunddraver was probably involved in the Sohet/Zazane war as well knowing how much he gets around |
| 16:44.20 | dino__ | oh nice! |
| 16:44.22 | dino__ | Jo |
| 16:44.48 | dino__ | The Rambo part is mostly completed, Wormy is continueing it for the rest as far as I am aware |
| 16:46.46 | Technobliterator | alright |
| 16:47.06 | Xho | I need to do something for the Sun Drakes |
| 16:47.20 | OluapPlayer | Make them in Spore for one hur |
| 16:47.26 | Technobliterator | Xho, Monet, OluapPlayer, Hachi__: you're all invited #MassArmageddonStoof if you want (and anyone else is if they are interested) |
| 16:47.52 | Hachi__ | I'll watch |
| 16:51.07 | Wormy | dino__ and Ghel might be interested |
| 16:51.28 | Ghel | I'll watch too. |
| 16:52.45 | dino__ | idd |
| 17:05.08 | TekDroid | Might as well watch. |
| 17:05.24 | TekDroid | Er... dhould probably watch times. XD |
| 17:36.26 | TekDroid | ~test |
| 17:36.26 | infobot | hmm... test is not funny |
| 17:36.39 | TekDroid | Anyone there? |
| 17:36.47 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 17:36.59 | Ghel | ~give TekDroid a cookie |
| 17:36.59 | infobot | ACTION gives TekDroid a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up. |
| 17:37.08 | dino__ | brb\ |
| 17:37.14 | TekDroid | Hey |
| 17:37.25 | TekDroid | ~give Ghel a cookie |
| 17:37.25 | infobot | ACTION gives Ghel a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up. |
| 17:37.55 | Ghel | turns the cookie into an octopus and places it in a convenient nearby ocean |
| 17:38.07 | TekDroid | O.o |
| 17:40.07 | Monet | Space magic |
| 17:41.08 | Ghel | Indeed. |
| 17:43.37 | Wormy | Drinks the ocean to cure a massive hangover |
| 17:44.21 | Monet | Sily Wormy, that theory works best before you pass out. |
| 17:44.51 | TekDroid | And that'd be a LOT of salt. |
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| 17:59.14 | TekDroid | Hello |
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| 18:04.40 | dino__ | back |
| 18:04.44 | dino__ | Imperios! |
| 18:06.28 | Imperios | Hi |
| 18:07.22 | TekDroid | Alright, time to try out XCOM: Enemy Unknown. |
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| 18:08.03 | TekDroid | That disconnect button is way too easy to hit. |
| 18:08.36 | TekDroid | Anyway, time for XCOM. |
| 18:09.44 | TekDroid | ~seen AceOfSpace |
| 18:09.46 | infobot | aceofspace <b3c57bf1@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.179.197.123.241> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 39d 54m 58s ago, saying: 'wb Imp'. |
| 18:10.17 | TekDroid | He hasn't been around for a while... |
| 18:11.54 | TekDroid | And a large portion of Katar's current plit involves him... |
| 18:12.16 | TekDroid | *plot |
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| 18:22.14 | DrodoEmpire | hey, everyone./ |
| 18:22.59 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 18:23.11 | Ghel | And bye. |
| 18:23.12 | *** part/#sporewiki Ghel (6daf890f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.175.137.15) |
| 18:25.51 | TekDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.43 | Technobliterator | TeXCOM hur |
| 18:27.37 | TekXCOM | Just downloaded it last night. |
| 18:29.33 | TekXCOM | Starting a new game now. |
| 18:29.59 | dino__ | bye all have to go |
| 18:30.01 | dino__ | bye!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:30.03 | dino__ | Till ntex time |
| 18:30.27 | TekXCOM | I think I'm in the tutorial. |
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| 18:40.46 | TekXCOM | Anyone who plays XCOM has suggestions on starting base location. |
| 18:41.45 | Imperios | Hm |
| 18:41.47 | Imperios | I just realised |
| 18:41.48 | Imperios | >Javina also wears a set of black, laminated lamellar armour underneath her coat, engraved with various sacred scriptures from Codex Facierum, known collectively as the Litanies of Hatred |
| 18:41.55 | Imperios | >Codex Facierum |
| 18:42.00 | Imperios | Javina has friends on the other side |
| 18:45.01 | Hachi__ | olol |
| 18:45.17 | Hachi__ | Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dryadali_Sovereign dis |
| 18:46.29 | Hachi__ | fuk |
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| 18:57.04 | Imperios | Why is everybody silent |
| 18:57.14 | Imperios | Like, everybody |
| 18:57.54 | Imperios | *everyone |
| 18:57.56 | Technobliterator | we're in an rp |
| 18:58.04 | Hachi__ | Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dryadali_Sovereign dis |
| 18:58.05 | Technobliterator | the conclusion to Mass Armageddon |
| 18:58.13 | Imperios | Seen dis |
| 18:58.28 | Technobliterator | it's not too late for you to join in however |
| 18:58.32 | Technobliterator | if you want to that is |
| 18:58.33 | Imperios | Is gud |
| 18:58.40 | Imperios | Okay, what's the channel? |
| 18:59.04 | Technobliterator | it's #MassArmageddonStoof, but let me fill you in before stuff happens |
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| 19:42.04 | Hachi__ | Gimme link to MA nao |
| 19:42.33 | OluapPlayer | #MassArmageddonStoof |
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| 20:22.37 | TekDroid | D: one of my troops panicked and killed my best sokdier in XCOM. |
| 20:22.54 | TekDroid | What the hell? D: |
| 20:24.40 | TekDroid | I mean seriously, what was that? |
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| 20:48.41 | TekDroid | Anyone want their nickname in my XCOM team? UK Sergeant, assault class |
| 20:50.01 | Tybusen | Hola |
| 20:51.01 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 20:52.21 | Wormy | hi |
| 20:52.30 | TekDroid | Any of you UK folks want it? |
| 20:52.44 | Monet | Me |
| 20:53.40 | TekDroid | You are also now the highest ranking soldier. |
| 21:03.00 | TekDroid | Yikes... 3 abductions at once? |
| 21:03.54 | TekDroid | 2 difficult and 1 moderate, with the moderate something I need for more satellites. Easy choice. XD |
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| 21:12.18 | OluapPlayer | spi |
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| 21:14.00 | OluapPlayer | Hachi__: http://31.media.tumblr.com/7178168700b0ab63df351527f1555933/tumblr_mshgybT5Y91roubsyo1_500.png |
| 21:18.39 | TekDroid | Hm... maybe leaving a soldier next to a flaming car was a bad idea. DX |
| 21:19.46 | TekDroid | She had that ark thingy too... |
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| 21:23.23 | OluapPlayer | Hachi__: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgnOrcWXGd4 here's something to cheer you up |
| 21:23.47 | Hachi__ | I'm fine. |
| 21:24.15 | Technobliterator | hey, don't worry about it |
| 21:24.24 | Technobliterator | I've led much worse rps |
| 21:24.30 | Hachi__ | I'm not worrying about it |
| 21:24.32 | Hachi__ | I said I'm fine. |
| 21:24.45 | Technobliterator | the full stop suggests otherwise |
| 21:24.51 | Technobliterator | but oh well, I'll leave you alone |
| 21:24.58 | Hachi__ | Because I don't want to talk about it anymore |
| 21:25.06 | Hachi__ | It was a shit attempt at me leading, that's it |
| 21:25.27 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/kweNhUu.jpg |
| 21:25.44 | Technobliterator | lol my friend at swimming showed me that |
| 21:25.49 | Hachi__ | Is it any wonder why my fiction has been on hold since forever |
| 21:25.50 | Hachi__ | I can't ever get anything done because I'm just shit with it |
| 21:26.09 | OluapPlayer | http://gunshowcomic.com/comics/20131129.png ":O" |
| 21:26.18 | Technobliterator | If you were shit at it, I wouldn't have invited you to that rp |
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| 21:26.24 | Technobliterator | it was a single screw up, we all have those |
| 21:26.27 | Technobliterator | just don't worry about it |
| 21:26.58 | Hachi__ | Golden Movement is a colossal screw-up |
| 21:27.08 | Hachi__ | I'm so unsatisfied with it I tried rewriting it |
| 21:27.14 | Hachi__ | And even then I'm not satisfied with it |
| 21:27.44 | Hachi__ | I should just cancel it and do something else, it's unlikely I'm to work on it again |
| 21:28.08 | OluapPlayer | Awww don't |
| 21:28.08 | Hachi__ | I'm much better following than I am leading |
| 21:28.12 | OluapPlayer | Golden Movement is one of my favorite stories |
| 21:28.14 | Wormy | Someone can cover for my characters tomorrow, I'll probably be gone again |
| 21:28.37 | Monet | Don't think I can continue tomorrow |
| 21:28.40 | Monet | Lots of busy |
| 21:29.48 | Hachi__ | Most of my fiction is a mound of unfinished shit |
| 21:29.49 | Hachi__ | I can't ever progress or complete anything because I'm never satisfied with it |
| 21:30.42 | Hachi__ | The one thing I'm mostly happy about is Dysnomia and even then I still want to rewrite it because everybody said the word walls hurt their eyes |
| 21:30.51 | Monet | "The creator is his own harshest critic" |
| 21:31.03 | Hachi__ | So I refuse to progress with it until both me and others are satisfied with it |
| 21:31.52 | Monet | Hachi__: I love the style because it is probably the most novel-like series i've seen. |
| 21:32.25 | Monet | I'm a sucker for the old ways. |
| 21:32.31 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/Ds4txkC.jpg |
| 21:32.33 | Hachi__ | It's nothing but word walls and nobody likes word walls |
| 21:33.10 | Monet | We live in an age where five lines in one paragrpah can count as a word wall |
| 21:33.41 | Hachi__ | My fiction's just a sack of shit, with maybe a few good bits like Hachi but that's about it |
| 21:34.16 | Hachi__ | Tyraz is an outdated and degraded character who I just want to get rid of, Kezoreg I regret even keeping |
| 21:35.11 | Wormy | If I thought your fiction was a sack of shit I wouldn't have let you collab with making DCP characters |
| 21:35.37 | Hachi__ | Sharing fiction is fine, because I'm not the one leading |
| 21:35.40 | Hachi__ | But when I lead |
| 21:35.41 | Monet | Hachi__ were it not for your stuff I don't know how long I would have stayed here. |
| 21:35.53 | Hachi__ | Everything turns to shit and nobody's interested, not even me |
| 21:36.37 | Wormy | Honestly, is this about the roleplay? Because we had been going for three and half to four hours. |
| 21:36.53 | Wormy | It was just tiredness |
| 21:37.05 | Wormy | I was tired long before Kol Daren. |
| 21:37.38 | Wormy | I was struggling to use my characters after Tricarrion |
| 21:38.37 | Hachi__ | I'm just not going to lead fictions anymore |
| 21:38.39 | Hachi__ | May as well just hand Crispy and Kol and whatever over to Imp, he's better at leading and developing a fiction than I am |
| 21:39.01 | Hachi__ | I share half of my stuff with him anyway because I struggle with it |
| 21:40.14 | Wormy | I find it hard to do fiction, its only last few weeks I've been writing again |
| 21:40.23 | Wormy | I;ve got lots of ideas |
| 21:40.38 | Wormy | But often no feelings to write it |
| 21:40.55 | Wormy | However |
| 21:41.02 | Wormy | If you don't rush |
| 21:41.14 | Wormy | It becomes more enjoyable |
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| 21:42.06 | Wormy | hi |
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| 21:42.24 | Wormy | hi |
| 21:42.29 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 21:42.47 | Wormy | That roleplay only just ended lol, and only cus we need a break |
| 21:43.04 | Hachi__ | Honestly, I just want to clean the slate |
| 21:43.05 | Hachi__ | I want to get rid of Tyraz, get rid of the BoW, rework Kol and Crispy, etc |
| 21:43.06 | Hachi__ | But I can't do that because I've allowed myself to stain a major part of the collaberative universe |
| 21:43.39 | Ghel | Wormy: I've been back for about ten minutes; it's taken me that long to skim through the unedited RP in Jo's sandbox. :P |
| 21:43.46 | OluapPlayer | Why would you want to get rid of the BoW? |
| 21:44.12 | Wormy | You haven't stained anything |
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| 21:44.41 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 21:44.45 | Hachi__ | Because it's a dumb fiction with a dumb name and is just stupid because I can never decide what to do with it |
| 21:44.56 | Cyrannian | Hello. |
| 21:45.12 | Wormy | Hi |
| 21:45.56 | Wormy | You are letting negativity cloud your judgments. |
| 21:46.04 | Avillan | You've made an imapact on the community. No one with shitty writing could have done that. ` |
| 21:46.16 | Wormy | But if you feel you need to change it, then do. |
| 21:46.18 | Hachi__ | It can be done easily, Avillian, if you try hard enough |
| 21:46.45 | Wormy | Ghel: Why did you delete your Physics page? |
| 21:46.51 | Monet | "try" and "shit stuff" don't normally coincide |
| 21:47.06 | TekDroid | XCOM logic: Sniper rifle at point blank range: 62% accuracy |
| 21:47.09 | Ghel | Wormy: It was all on the SporeWiki:Fiction Universe subpage. |
| 21:47.12 | OluapPlayer | Your stuff isn't shit, stop bashing yourself |
| 21:47.23 | Monet | TekDroid: Snipers get better the more range you have |
| 21:47.32 | TekDroid | Still. |
| 21:47.43 | Ghel | I guess I just forgot to delete my user subpage after relocating the content. |
| 21:47.54 | Hachi__ | If anything |
| 21:47.55 | Hachi__ | I feel like restricting myself to the Fantasy universe |
| 21:47.56 | Monet | Have you tried aiming at something right in of you with a sniper? Harder than it sounds |
| 21:48.08 | TekDroid | And why is it that my ark caster units die first. DX |
| 21:48.58 | Ghel | So, what's the context to this discussion about Hachi's fiction that I've dropped into half-way through? |
| 21:48.59 | Monet | Hachi__: I agree with Wormy. It's starting to sound like you can only see the bad stuff right now |
| 21:49.43 | Avillan | Ghel:We're trying to comfort him. He's decided that he's a bad writer. |
| 21:50.28 | Monet | Take a step back, spend some time taking deep breaths. |
| 21:50.31 | Wormy | Hachi: I get negative thoughts, but remember, they only reinforce your fears, then they actually do affect your writing |
| 21:50.41 | Wormy | or whatever |
| 21:50.45 | Hachi__ | The only good stuff I see is my shared universe stuff |
| 21:51.04 | Hachi__ | My main stuff is just a pile of unfinished crap I don't know what to do with |
| 21:51.33 | Wormy | It could be that a change in order is needed, but your fiction certainly isn't crap |
| 21:51.49 | Wormy | By saying it is crap, you are not going anywhere |
| 21:52.05 | Wormy | You'll forever condemn whatever you write to be crap |
| 21:52.27 | Wormy | But you don't have to think like that |
| 21:55.29 | Hachi__ | I'll give it a few weeks on what I want to do with my fiction |
| 21:56.00 | Hachi__ | Whether I want to keep it, get rid of it or pass it on to somebody else if they ever want to do anything with it |
| 21:56.13 | Hachi__ | Because I feel this is becoming too much of a problem for me now |
| 21:57.40 | Technobliterator | honestly, in this state, you won't be able to think rationally at all |
| 21:57.46 | Ghel | How long have you been feeling like this? |
| 21:58.16 | Wormy | Negative feedback loops, constructs of the mind |
| 21:58.28 | Hachi__ | Since last year, honestly |
| 21:59.03 | Hachi__ | I've been trying to put it off but the feeling just keeps coming back |
| 21:59.43 | Wormy | For a while now I felt that nody was interested in reading my fiction eexcept for a handful |
| 21:59.54 | Wormy | Ithought I was doing something wrong |
| 22:00.19 | Wormy | Maybe too many non-collab stories, or maybe too sciencey |
| 22:00.38 | Technobliterator | Wormy: you're not doing anything wrong at all, it's simply because your writing suits an audience who are more into the hardcore sci-fi stuff |
| 22:00.41 | Wormy | But then I realised lots of users felt the same |
| 22:01.19 | Monet | "tl;dr" is a phrase that for some writers, makes them want to punch something. |
| 22:01.21 | Wormy | Well thats the thing Jo, I thought I was in the wrong audience |
| 22:01.23 | Technobliterator | the issue is that the majority of users don't enjoy hardcore sciencey stuff; for instance I have difficulties reading it sometimes |
| 22:01.39 | Wormy | But I don't think I am |
| 22:02.10 | Hachi__ | I enjoy hardcore science stuff, actually |
| 22:02.21 | Monet | Science is taught very badly in a lot of places |
| 22:02.24 | Hachi__ | I may not use it but I enjoy reading it |
| 22:02.34 | Wormy | It occured to me, the feeling of unworthiness of my fiction wasn't actually real or justified. |
| 22:02.40 | Monet | badly taught science = people don't get it |
| 22:02.50 | OluapPlayer | Well, be sure that in whatever you need help, I'm here |
| 22:03.24 | OluapPlayer | Your fiction is one of my favorites and you're one of my favorite people to collab with |
| 22:03.37 | Technobliterator | seconde |
| 22:03.38 | Technobliterator | d |
| 22:03.44 | Monet | Third |
| 22:03.48 | Wormy | Fourth |
| 22:03.58 | OluapPlayer | i luv u brah, full homo |
| 22:04.41 | Monet | Actually, this might be a good time to reveal the idea for the featured poll Wormy and I have discussed |
| 22:04.49 | Hachi__ | I just don't feel like I can take the lead, if you know what I mean |
| 22:04.52 | Hachi__ | I prefer following and sharing stuff, but leading and being in charge is just full ngh for me |
| 22:05.12 | Hachi__ | Because I feel like I have no coherent direction or stuff I want to do |
| 22:05.17 | Hachi__ | Or how to execute properly |
| 22:05.26 | Technobliterator | honestly |
| 22:05.28 | Monet | Hachi__: It's okay, not everyone is a born leader. |
| 22:05.37 | Technobliterator | I have no idea if people even enjoyed my work in the Borealis War |
| 22:05.45 | Wormy | When I see those massive novels you write Hachi, I actually this "Wow, this guy is a great writer with fluid imagination and loves writing" |
| 22:05.56 | Technobliterator | in fact, I don't know if a single one of my overly complicated plots was ever decent |
| 22:06.10 | Wormy | with lots of writing energy that surpasses mine |
| 22:06.18 | Hachi__ | I enjoy reading other people's plots and fiction |
| 22:06.24 | Technobliterator | what I do know is that everyone else's that I see was great |
| 22:06.26 | Hachi__ | Which is why Oluap getting rid of the Gros made me sad |
| 22:06.34 | Hachi__ | Because he knew what he wanted to do with them |
| 22:06.38 | Monet | Wormy's point is my best bit about Dysnomia. Here is a guy who has decided he wants to do more than sum something up with two sentences. |
| 22:06.39 | Hachi__ | And that's something I can never do |
| 22:06.42 | OluapPlayer | I didn't get rid of them as much as I reporposed them |
| 22:06.47 | OluapPlayer | repurposed even |
| 22:07.03 | Technobliterator | if you aren't sure of your direction, ask someone |
| 22:07.16 | Technobliterator | literally before I did the MA plot I bitched Oluap for ages when not all of it involved him hur |
| 22:07.29 | Wormy | Monet: I'm happy to reveal it |
| 22:07.41 | OluapPlayer | Then you became a slave of the Dota |
| 22:07.47 | Technobliterator | wat |
| 22:07.50 | Technobliterator | I meant this morning |
| 22:07.51 | Technobliterator | u dum |
| 22:07.53 | Hachi__ | But every time I ask somebody for a bit of help I feel bad and I feel like less of a coherent leader |
| 22:08.07 | Hachi__ | So I just want to hang up the reigns and stop leading |
| 22:08.30 | OluapPlayer | You shouldn't feel bad for collaborating. I ask for help a lot as well |
| 22:08.47 | Technobliterator | no one told you to be a leader at all, if you don't want to, you don't have to be |
| 22:08.53 | Technobliterator | there's literally no reason not to ask for advice |
| 22:09.00 | Wormy | @Hachi: I rarely lead fic, though I'm leading Halcyon and Ghelae's time travel story. However, since I'm getting as many people involved as I can and leave them to their own devices, its easy |
| 22:09.27 | Wormy | nags Tybusen |
| 22:09.59 | Wormy | Halcyon u |
| 22:11.33 | Angrybirds | Also, Wormy, thanks for that video you posted yesterday. I'm using a version of the argument that speaker put forward to argue against the existence of God in a 9-page philosophy paper I'm writing. ^.^ |
| 22:11.56 | Monet | Hachi__: Okay so maybe a leader isn't your thing, you do solo stuff pretty well though. |
| 22:12.16 | Technobliterator | philosophy eh? |
| 22:12.18 | Technobliterator | I can help you there |
| 22:12.36 | Technobliterator | one of the things we're studying is the idea of God |
| 22:12.41 | Technobliterator | and how, well, incoherent it is |
| 22:12.53 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 22:12.55 | Wormy | Angrybirds: Thats okay, his name is David Deutsch. You might want to check out his books: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beginning_of_Infinity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fabric_of_Reality |
| 22:13.24 | Angrybirds | Technobliterator: I haven't hit any snags yet, but if I do, I know where to go to discuss it. ^.^ |
| 22:13.29 | Wormy | I'm studying Epistemology, the philosophy of knowledge and scientific methodologies |
| 22:13.38 | Angrybirds | Wormy : ooh! I'll take a look! |
| 22:13.56 | Monet | Personally i'm getting annoyed with people calling God someone's "imaginary friend" |
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| 22:14.06 | Monet | Sounds really insulting imo |
| 22:14.29 | Wormy | Angrybirds: More info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explanatory_power |
| 22:14.36 | Hachi__ | In my current state, I just don't know what I want |
| 22:14.38 | Hachi__ | Except that I don't want my fiction to burden me anymore |
| 22:14.45 | Monet | I don't mind if you believe in God or not just...be repectful about it. |
| 22:14.59 | Hachi__ | So I'll give it a few weeks to decide what I want to keep and what I don't |
| 22:15.17 | Angrybirds | Wormy: Argh, so much to read, so little time. Thanks! =D |
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| 22:15.37 | Technobliterator | The idea of God is incoherent because the attributes of him don't add him. Omnipotency, omnibenevolence, omniscience, omnipresence, etc. For instance, omnipotence and omnibenevolence don't add up because, in tehory if he was both he would stop the holocaust |
| 22:16.03 | Technobliterator | it's nothing to do with "hurr durr christians are just dum", it's simply logically flawed |
| 22:16.19 | OluapPlayer | Maybe we could work on the Tetra plot again to cheer you up? |
| 22:16.23 | Technobliterator | also omniscience and omnipresence are incoherent |
| 22:17.08 | Technobliterator | ...actually I can't remember why those two were |
| 22:17.41 | Technobliterator | help plz |
| 22:17.46 | Angrybirds | My exam essay was on the Problem of Evil. |
| 22:18.01 | Technobliterator | What about it? |
| 22:18.03 | Angrybirds | I invoked the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I felt accomplished. |
| 22:18.07 | OluapPlayer | omniscience = knows everything |
| 22:18.10 | OluapPlayer | omnipresence = is everywhere |
| 22:18.35 | Hachi__ | Omnipotent = can do anything |
| 22:18.44 | Technobliterator | yeah but I can't remember why those two were incoherent |
| 22:18.45 | Ghel | I know omniscience and omnipotence are often said to be incoherent, because if a being knows what will happen in the future then it will be powerless to change it. |
| 22:19.02 | Technobliterator | hm, yeah that's true |
| 22:19.35 | OluapPlayer | Zargoth - u must be new here |
| 22:19.45 | Technobliterator | hur |
| 22:19.53 | Technobliterator | well to be fair, Zargoth's not really omnipotent |
| 22:19.56 | Technobliterator | I mean |
| 22:20.04 | Technobliterator | there are more powerful gods than him |
| 22:20.14 | OluapPlayer | Only real omnipotent creatures on the wiki are the Xhodocto |
| 22:20.20 | Technobliterator | no god is really omnipotent except Kamik'Shi |
| 22:20.20 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 22:20.44 | Technobliterator | meh, I think that if there is a god, he's not necessarily a good guy |
| 22:21.00 | Technobliterator | why would a god care about mortals when there are like 7 billion of them on this planet alone |
| 22:21.35 | Ghel | That sounds a bit like deism to me. |
| 22:21.46 | Hachi__ | Perhaps he's busy doing other stuff |
| 22:21.51 | Technobliterator | no |
| 22:22.02 | Technobliterator | that's not possbile if he's omnipresent and omnipotent |
| 22:22.42 | Technobliterator | I was a Christian once but then I started to become less and less of a believer over time |
| 22:22.46 | OluapPlayer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX7G0zBdyN4 only real god is JonTron |
| 22:22.50 | Hachi__ | He may be omnipotent |
| 22:22.51 | Hachi__ | But he may still has things he wants and doesn't want to do |
| 22:23.19 | Ghel | That still ultimately comes down to him not wanting to deal with humans. |
| 22:23.27 | Wormy | Angrybirds: MOAR links http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQliI_WGaGk http://www.closertotruth.com/participant/David-Deutsch/157 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability vs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductivism, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_induction and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_positivism |
| 22:23.39 | Angrybirds | I AM BEING FLOODED |
| 22:23.47 | Monet | Personally I think God isi ntentionally leaving us to sort out our own problems |
| 22:23.56 | Technobliterator | Wormy: i'm surprised you haven't linked to richard dawkins |
| 22:24.03 | Hachi__ | Why should he have to? We're largely independent, we can sort out our own stuff, we don't need him |
| 22:24.07 | Technobliterator | yes, intentionally leaving us to sort things out is the most logical explanation |
| 22:24.14 | Monet | "why is there so much evil and suffering" God - Your fault clean your own mess up |
| 22:24.21 | Cyrannian | Let's not talk about religion. |
| 22:24.23 | Hachi__ | Like a parent to a child |
| 22:24.29 | OluapPlayer | yeah gonna have to agree there |
| 22:24.34 | Hachi__ | rite |
| 22:24.36 | Wormy | Jo: Richard Dawkin's Gene-centered neodarwinism is part of the Four Strands in David Deutsch's book |
| 22:24.37 | OluapPlayer | This kind of conversation never ends well |
| 22:24.45 | Technobliterator | it never ended well when irsk was here |
| 22:24.47 | Technobliterator | he is not here |
| 22:24.54 | Technobliterator | though, I understand the concern |
| 22:24.54 | Wormy | Yes lets talk about Epistemology |
| 22:25.01 | Hachi__ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dryadali_Sovereign#Ethnicities I made some cute elves today |
| 22:25.08 | OluapPlayer | Let's talk about something we all like |
| 22:25.10 | OluapPlayer | Gorf |
| 22:25.10 | Angrybirds | We had a very civil and positive discussion about religion last night. xD |
| 22:25.11 | OluapPlayer | I like Gorf |
| 22:25.11 | Technobliterator | it was just a bunch of philosophy I'd learnt in class |
| 22:25.25 | OluapPlayer | Don't you also like Gorf? |
| 22:25.30 | Monet | Might be a good time now to put forward a suggestion about the featured polls. |
| 22:25.37 | Technobliterator | Angrybirds Wormy: #interestingphilosophicaldiscussion |
| 22:25.37 | Wormy | I'm obsessed in human understanding and comprehensibility of nature |
| 22:25.41 | OluapPlayer | rite honna chek dem elves |
| 22:25.42 | Angrybirds | Farengeto Republic |
| 22:25.45 | OluapPlayer | gonna even |
| 22:25.49 | Technobliterator | nu gorf suks |
| 22:26.27 | Wormy | Particularly the argument to whether human minds are computed like some Universal Turing Machine or whether human understanding transcends it |
| 22:26.30 | Cyrannian | What is the new idea, Monet? |
| 22:26.48 | OluapPlayer | skins Technobliterator alive and makes a Gorf monument out of her bones |
| 22:26.51 | OluapPlayer | "making use of animal mounts that range from the standard horses to some smaller kelodhres" |
| 22:26.57 | OluapPlayer | hoh dragonriders |
| 22:27.06 | Monet | Perhaps instead of a top 10 poll, everyone comments on a blog their preference out of a list in a comment where they explain what they like about the fiction and it's strong points. Generally why they voted for it. |
| 22:28.03 | Monet | These votes are then tallied, however comments like "I pick this because it is very good" won't get counted. |
| 22:28.12 | OluapPlayer | Dryadali Sovereign's true goal is to ride Atrocius |
| 22:28.41 | Hachi__ | Monet: Seems fair, I guess, but the progress would be significantly slower |
| 22:28.44 | Monet | One issue that was highlighted in my talk with Wormy is popularity does appear to be affecting the polls. |
| 22:28.45 | Angrybirds | ^' |
| 22:29.01 | Avillan_ | Good idea Monet. Then newer people can see what other people like in fiction. |
| 22:29.09 | Monet | Also that's another thing: Have the polls open for more than a few minutes. |
| 22:29.13 | Angrybirds | YES |
| 22:29.22 | Monet | Maybe a day or a week |
| 22:29.44 | Angrybirds | "Good idea Monet. Then newer people can see what other people like in fiction." - And yeah, I agree, I've barely had any feedback for any of my fiction over the course of my stay here. |
| 22:31.06 | Monet | So yeah the process will take longer, I agree. But at least users can actually get feedback on their stuff |
| 22:31.10 | Angrybirds | AH |
| 22:31.13 | Angrybirds | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.20 | Angrybirds | Sorry. |
| 22:31.39 | Angrybirds | Dem cramps. |
| 22:32.03 | Wormy | Ghel: I hear that positivism is still rife in the quantum camp |
| 22:32.20 | Wormy | Is there any positivists in your uni? |
| 22:32.28 | Monet | And having the polls open for a day or a few days allows for more feedback/votes. Since the current system is reliant on how many people are paying attention to the IRC at one certai ntime of the day |
| 22:32.36 | Wormy | Positiovists basically deny explanation |
| 22:33.00 | Wormy | They are people who cry "shut up and calculate" |
| 22:33.11 | Cyrannian | Under the top ten polls, there is a comment section where people can leave feedback as to why they have nominated a particular fiction. At first people were encouraged to do so, but hardly anyone did. Plus, the polls are usually open for at least six hours. |
| 22:33.21 | Ghel | Sounds about right, but I'm not really sure. |
| 22:33.51 | Wormy | Its mostly a dead philosophy now. |
| 22:34.29 | Ghel | Is it me or does this anonymous user's edits look a lot like those of the recently-blocked Oonosauros? http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wobble_D_Wobble&diff=573798&oldid=566046 |
| 22:34.42 | Monet | Aren't the victors normally announced on the IRC not long after all four poll have been opened? |
| 22:34.56 | Monet | That's what i've seen anyway |
| 22:35.28 | Avillan_ | I Ghel:I think you're right. |
| 22:36.02 | Cyrannian | It certainly isn't a few minutes, but yes, voting does close relatively quickly. |
| 22:36.57 | Monet | We get a lot of users who completely miss the chance to vote because they are either sleeping or at work/school. |
| 22:37.03 | Cyrannian | A lot? |
| 22:38.06 | Angrybirds | Yeah, a lot. |
| 22:38.13 | Technobliterator | not that many |
| 22:38.22 | Monet | I don't know how many exactly, But poll numbers (i think) seem to range between 6-8 and we can get as many as 20 people on the IRC depending on the day |
| 22:38.23 | Angrybirds | I missed all the polls but one in the past few months. |
| 22:38.26 | Wormy | I hardly get the chance to vote to be honest. |
| 22:38.31 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 22:39.11 | Ghel | Actually, it's definitely the same user as Oonosauros. May need a block for ban-evasion if he/she/it keeps on editing. |
| 22:39.43 | Monet | The main issue for me with the current system is user favouritism and lack of feedback. |
| 22:40.40 | Monet | The latter I know can be solved with poll comments. But that doesn't seem to happen |
| 22:42.33 | Cyrannian | Hm. I usually ask people what they think should be a featured article when there is at least ten people on IRC. Usually I have to ask several times for nominations. I don't think there is enough interest among users to give detailed reasons behind their nominations. For example, I prefer voting in anonymity. |
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| 22:43.09 | Monet | I wonder if some people find voting a chore |
| 22:43.14 | Ghel | I'm going to go now. Bye! |
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| 22:43.47 | Angrybirds | I like voting in public, personally. |
| 22:44.33 | Monet | Maybe the system needs to be more engaging? |
| 22:45.35 | Wormy | Or maybe we should create a secoind vote system |
| 22:45.48 | Wormy | And create it for all new fictions |
| 22:46.32 | Monet | That would give newer fictions a better spotlight. |
| 22:46.40 | Cyrannian | How about we keep the top 10 voting system in place for those who don't have time to give detailed descriptions of why they voted for a particular fiction, keep voting open for a day and also encourage users who want to give feedback in the comment section below. |
| 22:47.02 | Wormy | Yes |
| 22:47.15 | Wormy | I think we should use both |
| 22:47.18 | Angrybirds | We might want to make the links to the voting pages visible somewhere. |
| 22:47.23 | Angrybirds | Like on the main page. |
| 22:47.37 | Angrybirds | And tell people that they will be there on the last day of every month. |
| 22:47.53 | Monet | Also what about providing links to the fictions being nominated? |
| 22:47.55 | Cyrannian | I'll make a blog that I'll update monthly, linking people to the voting area |
| 22:48.21 | Angrybirds | Cyrannian: Though that blog might be difficult to find after a while. |
| 22:48.31 | Monet | I get the suspision a few people look at a nomination and think "who are they? Never heard of them" |
| 22:48.37 | Angrybirds | The main page is just a click away. |
| 22:49.10 | Cyrannian | Or, we could add a link to the blog to the main page. |
| 22:49.11 | Angrybirds | Monet : Yeah, I don't vote when I don't know any of the nominees. |
| 22:49.26 | Angrybirds | Cyrannian: That might work. |
| 22:50.30 | Monet | Angrybirds: And it makes more obscure fictions harder to get a chance in the spotlight |
| 22:50.46 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 22:50.48 | Monet | Well not just more obscure, but the ones less people know about |
| 22:53.34 | Angrybirds | Also, can we nominate stories we took part in? |
| 22:53.38 | Monet | Also let's face it; people worried no one is reading their stuff is rampant right now. |
| 22:54.08 | Monet | I figured a comment-based voting system could alleviate this issue somewhat. |
| 22:54.17 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 22:54.40 | Avillan | Monet:I think so, yes. |
| 22:54.42 | Angrybirds | I personally believe no one is reading my stuff, though I keep writing anyway for personal gratification. |
| 22:57.23 | Monet | It's the silent majority issue. There probably are lots of people reading fictions here and there. But if that includes people the writers communicate with regularly, it gets straining. |
| 23:01.00 | Monet | The issue with having both systems however is like what has happened with the current system; if people can vote anonymously and are not required/obligated to leave a comment, then what stops them from planting a vote and not saying anything? |
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| 23:01.28 | Monet | I'm worried that using both systems could lead tothe problems we have now. |
| 23:01.33 | Hachi__ | If that's the case, if we enforce commenting, less people will vote by the sounds of it |
| 23:01.56 | Monet | No system is perfect |
| 23:02.52 | Avillan | But some are closer to it than others. |
| 23:03.12 | TekDroid | Oh great... I'm guaranteed to lose a country in XCOM this round. D: |
| 23:03.28 | Cyrannian | Users are encouraged to provide feedback about their nomination, though it is not compulsory. |
| 23:03.44 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Cyrannian/Featured_Articles - You can either nominate articles here or on IRC> |
| 23:03.55 | TekDroid | What are we talking about? |
| 23:03.57 | Monet | Oh yeah, there's also the issue of voting more than once. |
| 23:04.32 | Monet | At least with a comment system we can count the votes more farily |
| 23:07.02 | Monet | Although I will note this about the wiki: Feedback is an important part in developing a fiction, but from what i've seen getting something other than "good stuff" is like pulling teeth out. |
| 23:07.48 | Cyrannian | There we agree. I physically hate it when people respond to something I show IRC by saying something like "dat ___" or "gud". |
| 23:09.16 | Monet | Yeah, I hate it when an author publishes a chapter that might have taken 2-3 hours to devise, construct and compose (Rp sessions included for collabs) and all they get is a "good story" |
| 23:09.41 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 23:10.03 | Monet | that is *if* they get any feedback |
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| 23:11.32 | Cyrannian | Indeed. Now, people can use that blog to nominate fictions and provide why they think a particular fiction should be nominated. |
| 23:12.31 | Technobliterator | ign gave the xbox one a 7.8/10 |
| 23:13.12 | Monet | Yeah...IGN aren't the greatest reviewers in the world |
| 23:14.25 | Technobliterator | they aren't as bad as some people say |
| 23:14.40 | Monet | They're not complete morons no. |
| 23:15.00 | Monet | IMO they're hit-and-miss; they do some okay stuff and they do the occasional bad choice. |
| 23:15.20 | Cyrannian | Bye! |
| 23:16.25 | Monet | Dam there was one other suggestion Wormy gave in our discussion |
| 23:16.34 | Monet | but now Cyrannian gone |
| 23:17.05 | Avillan | You can always message wall him about it. |
| 23:17.29 | Technobliterator | yeah, that's what I say |
| 23:18.16 | Monet | I can. But may as well say it here as well since this whole poll thing concerns the entire wiki imo |
| 23:19.19 | Monet | Wormy suggested an "original fiction" section/awards. While something truly unique is unlikely, this idea could encourage originality. |
| 23:19.51 | Monet | And put a spotlight on more creative and original fictions. |
| 23:19.59 | Wormy | I admit, I don't always give feedback straight away. But I find such questions hard to answer in a short space of time |
| 23:20.22 | Monet | ^ ANother reason it might be better for the polls to be open longer |
| 23:20.32 | Wormy | Allowing me time to write a good review on say, the new vote system might make me more likely to do it |
| 23:20.45 | Avillan | How long are we talking? |
| 23:20.47 | Wormy | I don't think snybody does it on purpose, we neeed a better platform |
| 23:21.06 | Monet | Avillan: At least an entire day. |
| 23:21.29 | Monet | Maximum time for polls to be open could be up to a week. |
| 23:21.45 | Monet | Since I recall there are users who can only access the wiki on weekends |
| 23:23.20 | Monet | How many times have we all waked out of a movie and a friend asks "what was your favourite bit?" almost expecting an instant answer? |
| 23:23.36 | Wormy | Its a month long project, it should be given careful time to consider |
| 23:24.23 | Monet | Yeah. |
| 23:26.32 | Monet | I recall PC Gamer publishes monthly magasines, publishing near the end of the month. But they label the issue month as the month after the one they publish in |
| 23:29.24 | Monet | They spend an entire month reviewing and researching to bring to light stuff happening in the next month. |
| 23:29.56 | Monet | Rather than talking about stuff in the month that just finished by the time they publish |
| 23:32.42 | Monet | The "most original fiction" award (might be better if it's given to more than one fiction) could be good for creativity. |
| 23:34.29 | Monet | Since relating back to my "popularity contest" concern, it worries me a fiction gets a featured stamp largely from how it reflects a piece of external media that is already hugely popular |
| 23:36.28 | Monet | Depending on the quality, a fiction that does this is either riding off the success of something that took years, dozens of people and thousands of dollars to make popular, or is a case of outright plagarism. |
| 23:39.12 | Angrybirds | Yeah, I kind of agree. |
| 23:40.25 | Monet | If you hand in an essay at University containing signs of plagarism, the reviewers throw the thing back at you |
| 23:40.32 | Angrybirds | Though I'd argue that those fictions that make it on the featured fiction page don't do so solely because they're a rip-off of some established franchise. Usually, they are very well written and do the franchise justice. |
| 23:41.15 | Angrybirds | Not-so-well written rip-offs are usually laughed off and ridiculed. |
| 23:41.43 | Monet | I was trying to be minimally critical talking about a fiction "riding off the success of another franchise" |
| 23:42.28 | Monet | Probably because these days organisations can sue for you doing stuff lik that even if what you did was to their benefit |
| 23:44.23 | Monet | I'm more critical of this concept when it comes to stories; even if you're creating a homage to another franchise's plot, why not just read/watch the original story? |
| 23:45.10 | Angrybirds | That makes sense. |
| 23:45.42 | Monet | The popular music industry is all the same themes, and I listen to less mainstream music as a result |
| 23:46.39 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 23:47.30 | Technobliterator | "The popular music industry is all the same themes" |
| 23:47.41 | Technobliterator | it's trends |
| 23:47.52 | Technobliterator | and trends have dominated pop music for what, 40 years now? |
| 23:48.12 | Technobliterator | and they're always changed when something new is popular |
| 23:48.14 | Technobliterator | see: Nirvana |
| 23:49.40 | Monet | I recall trends are discouraged on the wiki |
| 23:50.10 | Hachi__ | That's why the charts are nothing but crap nowadays |
| 23:50.52 | Technobliterator | it's not a case of "the charts nowadays suck" |
| 23:50.54 | Technobliterator | they've always sucked |
| 23:51.01 | Hachi__ | Well yeah |
| 23:51.31 | Technobliterator | The whole "music turned to shit in this day and age" point is completely irrelevant and biased because it's simply false |
| 23:51.40 | Technobliterator | popular music has always been shit |
| 23:52.02 | Technobliterator | everyone who hates One Direction would have absolutely loathed the first Beatles albums |
| 23:52.32 | Technobliterator | yes, the Beatles pretty much were the first boy band (but they actually played music) before they started making more experimental stuff |
| 23:53.13 | Hachi__ | Yeah I heard Beatles and Rolling Stones were pretty much despised at the start |
| 23:53.41 | Technobliterator | the Rolling Stones were for a totally different reason to the Beatles |
| 23:54.05 | Technobliterator | for the Beatles it was the same reason you hate 1D; the girls are fucking obsessed with them and they make annoying catchy pop songs that everyone loves |
| 23:54.15 | Technobliterator | the Rolling Stones were (at the time) just dangerous |
| 23:54.53 | Monet | I take it I hit a nerve |
| 23:54.54 | Technobliterator | of course, nowadays you have death metal bands talking about murder, lady gaga practically singing naked at concerts and stuff and you think OMG WTF |
| 23:55.15 | Technobliterator | well, the Rolling Stones did daring stuff before any of them, though it obviously wasn't nearly as bad |
| 23:55.21 | Technobliterator | they practically invented double entendre |
| 23:55.25 | Technobliterator | in music, that is |
| 23:57.02 | Hachi__ | Death metal bands were talking about murder since death metal started, apparently |
| 23:57.05 | Hachi__ | Thus "death" metal |
| 23:57.16 | Technobliterator | pretty much |
| 23:57.33 | Technobliterator | but everyone was a goody two shoes before the Rolling Stones came |
| 23:57.45 | Hachi__ | True |
| 23:58.31 | Hachi__ | I mean, God forbid people painting doors black |
