IRC log for #sporewiki on 20131118

00:00.32MonetNamely the gold-inlaid writing that surrounds the outside
00:08.13WormyHachi_  You seem to want to see Kilnok active again.  What kind of trials should Kilnok face in the Trials of Kilnok?
00:08.47Hachi_Hmm#
00:09.01WormyBasically the Dromanji return as "ghosts", haunting DCP elites and demamd retribution
00:09.18Hachi_Dromanji?
00:09.40WormyA race the DCP exteriminated with a star-altering weapon.
00:09.41CyrannianOluapPlayer: Is it normal for my old creations to look strange after installing the mod?
00:10.02WormyLittle did they know that the Dromanji could survive after mortal death
00:10.09OluapPlayerCyrannian: If you didn't install the file that keeps the core game's textures, yes
00:10.52Hachi_Sounds neat!
00:11.17WormyBased on this I suppose http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labours_of_Hercules
00:12.12CyrannianI definitely installed that file and all of their heads look strange and their eyes are all the same colour.
00:12.51OluapPlayerJudging by the new stormtrooper's model, you either didn't install it or installed it incorrectly
00:13.08OluapPlayerYou can notice his feet are not using the core game's colours
00:13.47CyrannianThat's strange. It's definitely in the GA data folder.
00:14.36CyrannianI'll download it again to be sure.
00:14.41OluapPlayerThe file is called "2013_CoreTextures.package"
00:14.47OluapPlayerMake sure it's this one you instlaled
00:15.17CyrannianI think I see the problem. I only installed 176 MB out of 435 MB for some reason
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00:16.55OluapPlayerI don't even know how that's possible hur
00:18.04CyrannianBecause as soon as it starts downloading it appears in my "Downloads" folder. I must have added it to the data folder while it was in the middle of downloading.
00:19.01OluapPlayeru fuked up big time u
00:20.26CyrannianApart from my derp, I'm really enjoying it. Hopefully all my creations from before I downloaded it aren't glitched.
00:20.42OluapPlayerWhen you get the file working, everything should be back to normal
00:20.48OluapPlayerI had the same problem and that file fixed it
00:21.52CyrannianI was devastated when I saw all my trademark waptor faics were broken
00:22.51OluapPlayerhur
00:24.58CyrannianYay! It worked
00:25.16OluapPlayergud
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00:29.41Wormyhi
00:30.16Lord_RaydonHi, Wormy.
00:31.10OluapPlayerHachi_: http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e4/NyakikVersions.png which one do you prefer? Left or right?
00:31.22CyrannianAnother great thing about the mod is that I can finally create a Cylon!
00:32.03Hachi_I think I prefer the right
00:32.13Hachi_But then again
00:32.20Hachi_Why not Zoidberg
00:32.23Hachi_I mean both
00:32.33OluapPlayerboth nut an opshun u
00:32.51CyrannianI like the right
00:33.08WormyLeft
00:34.23OluapPlayerrite i go for rite den hur
00:34.51OluapPlayerHachi_: Also wut u think of Nyakik's personality so far?
00:35.22Hachi_I like it, it's stubborn and arrogant but it comes off as natural rather than annoying
00:35.41Wormyummm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere#Galaxy-level_Dyson_sphere
00:35.58OluapPlayerI don't know if I'm not being too harsh
00:36.04OluapPlayerand if I should tone her down
00:36.16Wormy". This is the most improbable of the Dyson spheres" = Then don't  make it up and add it
00:36.24Hachi_Nah keep it hur
00:37.02OluapPlayerWell I plan to show her nicer side for sure
00:37.18MonetIts not jsut the scale, is there any point to surrounding a galaxy in energy collectors?
00:38.11MonetEve nat their "closest", those collectors will be light-years from the nearest star
00:38.27OluapPlayerWhile I was removing Nyakik's ugly claw mouth, I took the opportunity and did the same to this http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131116180309/spore/images/3/3e/Purion.png
00:38.36AdmiralPandathat would be ludicrously inefficient, I mean Pluto doesn't even get enough energy from our star to heat it up
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00:44.15Angry_AirMonet : I think it was you who were wondering how orbital combat would be mapped: http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131117022104/spore/images/2/21/Planet_001_move_1.png This is going to get really confusing really quickly.
00:44.23TechnobliteratorHas anyone here played SWTOR?
00:44.29TechnobliteratorI'm considering giving it a go
00:44.54Angry_Air*raises hand*
00:45.21MonetAngry_Air_: That's one way...I think
00:45.59Angry_AirMonet : We're missing the third dimension, though...
00:46.20MonetThat trajectory is making me curious though
00:46.41MonetI would have thought an approaching fleet would make for a more inward-curving approach
00:47.36Angry_AirTechnobliterator : It's okay as an MMO. I personally didn't enjoy it that much, since MMO's aren't really my thing. It's free, though, so it really wouldn't hurt to try it.
00:47.37CyrannianI love TOR. It's the main reason why I updated my computer!
00:47.54WormyI might play TOR F2P mode
00:48.15WormyBecause I play cheap
00:48.27CyrannianIt's massive so make sure you have enough space
00:48.33Angry_AirTOR questlines aren't anything new, it doesn't innovate that much, but the dialogue is cool.
00:48.45TechnobliteratorI'm not sure what I think of MMO's, I've never enjoyed them all that much
00:48.55Angry_AirToo much grind.
00:48.55Technobliteratorbut yeah, I suppose I could give it a go
00:49.05Technobliteratoryeah, I hate grinding
00:49.19Technobliteratorbut I absolutely adore RPG's and the sense of progression
00:49.33WormyI love STO
00:49.36Technobliteratorhence why I love playing R&C, RPGs like Final Fantasy, Mass Effect, and farming carries in Dota
00:50.00Technobliteratorwell, if people from the wiki are playing, could we get a guild set up?
00:50.05Angry_AirMonet : Hm. Viran's fleet is supposed to drop out of hyperspace and immediately, almost frantically, take a sweep at the nearest Tarkan fleet.
00:51.08CyrannianTOR is superior to STO in terms of roleplaying in my opinion. But STO is friendlier to F2P users.
00:51.35TechnobliteratorI see
00:51.52Technobliteratordon't they now have space battles in TOR?
00:52.01CyrannianIndeed, which is awesome
00:52.13Technobliteratorright, I'm definitely trying it this weekend
00:52.26Technobliteratorand now I'm getting sleepy so I'll be off
00:52.27Technobliteratorbyee!
00:52.48CyrannianStory-wise, TOR is also superior in my opinion. Though recently STO has been getting better in that department.
00:53.00WormyI don't think the space battles in TOR look better than STO's
00:53.06Angry_AirTechnobliterator : There is no ship combat. xD
00:53.13Angry_AirIt's an arcade game at best.
00:53.24WormySTO has got some dull earlier storylines
00:53.31Angry_Air^
00:53.48WormyI think its been much better end-game
00:53.50CyrannianIndeed, but in later seasons it is really improving
00:54.02CyrannianEspecially in Legacy of Romulus
00:54.13WormyThing is, I find the PVE and reputation addictive
00:54.28Angry_AirWormy : Though I was really impressed by one or two early stories, some were just laughable.
00:54.29WormyBecause there's a lot you can do to modify your ship
00:55.02WormyAngry_Air:  Try out Legacy of New Romulus and the new Dyson Sphere stories
00:55.40Angry_AirI'll take a look once I have the time. From what I've seen of LoNR, though, it looks awesome.
00:56.25Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Alcanti/Minos%27Drakon#Locations_of_Note I think i'm done for now, everyone have a look
00:57.15WormyOne thing I don't like in STO is that it sometimes has large, repetitive maps in the earlier seasons, easy to get lost in
00:57.19OluapPlayerMonet: http://i.imgur.com/FZlqW5i.png Storks are immune to weasels
00:57.57MonetGhost weasel?
00:58.09OluapPlayerEither that or ghost stork
00:58.46OluapPlayerI just imagine a dwarf desperately trying to whack a stork with a dead weasel only for it to pass through the stork's body
00:59.33MonetGhosts in Fortress Mode can batter people. "Who's incorporeal now bitch!"
00:59.43Angrybirds_AirThis is dwarf fortress?
01:00.14MonetI've had so many dwarved break their arms legs or teeth because a ghost decided to randomly clobber them.
01:00.34CyrannianI would say that the TOR space battles are more cinematic but they are not as fun as those in STO (which makes sense considering that STO is geared around space combat)
01:00.54OluapPlayer"i also killed two lions with a spear, dual wielded them and tried to kill a third lion with them. unfortunately the lion bit both my hands off so I tried to beat him with my stumps. no luck though."
01:01.23OluapPlayerI take this guy was on a "use dead animals as weapons" quest
01:02.38WormyI'd love to see more exploration zones in STO
01:02.56WormyPerhaps more depth in discovering more star systems
01:04.36CyrannianIndeed, I'd like more diplomacy and exploration
01:06.45WormyEVE space battles seem like a whole other beast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9x8eYjUQzg
01:08.09CyrannianIs EVE F2P?
01:08.27Monet£10/month
01:08.41OluapPlayerI'm gonna try Adventure Mode out
01:08.43WormyI think you can play a trial for 2 weeks
01:09.08WormyI think its so difficult on new players its really not worth my time or money
01:10.08MonetEve isn't a fast-paced game. But Cyrannian may enjoy the vast amount of political intrigue that goes on
01:11.11MonetI don't think i've seen a third-person game like EVE when it comes to politics
01:11.57CyrannianI do like political intrigue
01:12.46MonetBut its also a bit merciless. The guy in that video mentioned he had to avoid several gate-camps and when he got to the battefield itself he couldn't get close to the station because there were about 70 members of GoonSwarm surrounding it.
01:14.04Moneteveryone in that senstence would have shot him for being there
01:14.14WormyDoes EVE have the largest MMO battles of any game?
01:14.49WormyLooks like that battle is part on an ongoing war http://themittani.com/news/post-6vdt-test-state-alliance
01:15.33OluapPlayerI started well, I approached a river, fell on it and nearly drowned
01:15.43OluapPlayerFitting since I have no idea what to do so far
01:16.02MonetWormy: Chances are said war would have been going for months
01:16.16OluapPlayerNow i'm fighting someone apaprently
01:16.31WormyI could believe it
01:16.51MonetSome of the longest wars have potentially gone on for a year or two
01:17.33OluapPlayerIt's a human spearman
01:17.57OluapPlayerI hacked at his upper torso with an axe until he fell over hur
01:19.16OluapPlayerNow a swordman showed up and stabbed and slapped me to death
01:19.42OluapPlayerI can't get over it because he slapped my toes
01:19.44OluapPlayerWhat the fuck even
01:19.52Monet"you killed my mate!"
01:20.27MonetHow could...he even...reach?
01:20.40Hachi_That should happen in Inferno Rising at some point
01:20.57OluapPlayerHe both stabbed by foot and slapped my toes
01:21.44OluapPlayerAlright let's do this again
01:22.29OluapPlayerI'm gonna try something I read on this Dwarf Fortress thread and put all points in wrestling
01:24.04MonetEvE does wars with a similar length and realism we do...sorta
01:24.58MonetI think there are more than a few wars in SW history that boil down to "send a bunch of people to find this thing"
01:25.06MonetBy the end at least
01:26.58MonetOr "Send an elite team to perform this objective that will win the war"
01:27.55MonetThen again, mainly in said wars the enemy is something you can't occupy the territory of and claim victory
01:28.28CyrannianI think I prefer those wars.
01:29.58Cyrannianhttp://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b4/Venatorius.png - le darth vader
01:30.34OluapPlayerdat face
01:30.41MonetLightsaberrrr
01:30.56CyrannianI couldn't resist :P
01:33.37OluapPlayerngh I can't find anything to do
01:34.08MonetFor a stage of Wrath of the Imperium, should I show the power of a DI marine's body glove?
01:37.37CyrannianNightie night!
01:39.40MonetAlso I wonder how dangerous the Blood Dragons come across.
01:41.00MonetSo far the most major conflict i've shown them in is the Deep Core retaliation were I feel they came across as a bit weak and a bit hesitant to fight
01:42.21MonetAlthough they did appear in Red Snake Rising. Other than that, they seem ot be mostly flavour characters
01:44.20OluapPlayerDamnit I can't find anything to fight in this hur
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01:46.17Hachi_Hey Tybusen, Wormy was looking for you
01:46.25Tybusenyeh?
01:46.34Tybusencool beans
01:46.37TybusenOi Wormy
01:46.40TybusenI'm here
01:49.48WormyHi
01:50.19WormyRemember our discussion on the Station Halcyon preview episode?
01:50.23TybusenJa
01:51.49WormyI wondered if you wanted to write Katarina's section
01:51.58TybusenYeah, I could do that
01:51.59Hachi_Wormy: Me and you should make a female Warlord
01:52.05Wormyyeah
01:52.07Hachi_Well, a Warlady
01:52.17OluapPlayercours hachi goes for the female option
01:52.20TybusenI'm a little bit busy right now, but I should be able to write a section this week
01:52.28WormyThat would be great
01:52.52WormyI thought it could involve her and Xigor finding each other
01:54.17Hachi_Wormy: Wasn't Lunarai gonna be the first Grimbo that Xigor sees?
01:54.24WormyLater in the weekk we could probably discuss the discovery of the station a few months (or years?) later by the Galactic Empire of Cyrannus
01:54.29WormyThats right
01:55.20WormyImagine seeing a superhuman after you thought the human race had died out
01:55.44WormyAnd you had looked after the last remnants of your civilisation
01:56.08WormyI think we must show the kind side to Lunarai
01:56.19Hachi_Yeah, I imagine Lunarai is pretty kind
01:57.00Hachi_Or rather, not as stern and cold as other Grimbos
01:57.16Hachi_He is a semi-diplomat after all, alongside an unofficial DCP political representative
01:57.50TybusenI'm trying to think of a way to get Katarina and Xigor to meet up or otherwise get her to go to the Science Quarter, since most of Katarina's engineering team will have probably bailed on the station
01:58.50Hachi_Do you guys remember that one guy, Vito?
01:58.55Hachi_That bartender guy
01:58.58Tybusenyah
01:59.06WormyPerhaps there was something failing on the station, and she needed to head to the Science Quarter
01:59.13Wormyfor parts
01:59.21Hachi_Could he also been on the station? He could still be holed up in his place
01:59.24WormyI do remember him
01:59.33WormyYes of course
01:59.33TybusenI think Vito might still be on the station
01:59.48TybusenIf I remember correctly, he wouldn't have anywhere else to go anyways
01:59.53Hachi_Jah
02:00.08Hachi_Not that Vito would wanna leave
02:00.55TybusenWormy: That would make sense, since she wouldn't be able to get any of her subordinates to do it for her
02:01.09WormyTybusen:  Maybe Katarina was trying to locate Station Halcyon's position?
02:01.28TybusenWould there be navigation systems in the Science Quarter?
02:01.45WormyThere should be something for stellar coordinates
02:03.49TybusenWell, perhaps that's something that should be left for after Katarina and Xigor and any other crew members are reunited, finding out they've landed in Cyrannus is probably something all the remaining characters should find out together
02:04.38TybusenIn my opinion, at least
02:06.50WormyYeah
02:08.04TybusenI'm thinking that Katarina is hanging out in the Engineering Quarter, trying to fix anything that's been broken in the chaos, when she runs out of parts and has to go to the Science Quarter to get new parts herself
02:09.07TybusenShe'll be shown doing some actual engineering for once and will also have a reason to head over to the Science Quarter
02:09.52WormyCool
02:09.58WormyThats all sounds good
02:11.37TybusenI remember now that one of her characteristics from the first series was that she was incredibly bored with how little she had to do in Engineering, I'll bet in this series she'll have much more to do
02:14.14WormyThats great character depth
02:14.44WormyEspecially where it continues on from the last series
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02:16.44TybusenThe new TIAF engineering contingent will probably be smaller than the first one, so she'll have more opportunities to be called out for repairs and the like
02:16.56TybusenSo she can interact with more characters
02:28.28Wormybye
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04:25.04GD12Hello
04:34.30TekDroidHello GD12
04:42.04GD12Hmm
04:42.11GD12i has an idea for an airborne floating behemoth
04:42.15GD12basically a dominatus head
04:42.22GD12well something that looks like one
04:47.23TekDroidO.o
04:48.50TekDroidcleans the blood of his knife
04:49.30TekDroid*off
04:49.45TekDroid~test
04:49.45infobotextra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny
04:50.35GD12hur
04:51.02GD12So the main weapon would be a called "Tyrant's Breath" or something
04:51.07GD12and would come out the "mouth" of the head
04:51.21TekDroidO.o
04:54.39GD12So in the middle of battle
04:54.41GD12just a big dominatus head
04:55.02GD12The horns will probably some variation on big lasers
05:28.41TybusenI sometimes look at the old SSA region page on NationStates and ask myself, "Why am I still keeping this alive?"
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05:42.37GD12Hello
05:42.53GD12hmm
05:43.19GD12Continuing with the idea of a head behemoth, the eyes could be massive beams
05:46.31GD12anyway ight
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06:00.20ImperiosHi Tybusen, hi Hachi
06:00.31TybusenAllo
06:01.42ImperiosTybusen: Just curious
06:01.48TybusenJa
06:02.00ImperiosOut of my Fantasyverse villains, who do you think is thr most interesting
06:02.44ImperiosAn emo undead warlord, an army of midget Nazi goblins or a psycho horny British catgirl
06:05.41ImperiosWell, based on Japanese folklore with a British accent and an Indian name
06:14.24TybusenI'll go with psycho horny British catgirl based on Japanese folklore with a British accent and an Indian name
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06:28.01TybusenI noticed that, for a nation that prides itself on democracy, the TIAF has a lot of monarchies as members
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08:35.01AdmiralPandahai buni
08:35.08AdmiralPandaso did you just not go to sleep or are you up really early?
08:50.34ImperiosHi Panda
09:44.30AdmiralPandahi imp
09:44.47AdmiralPandaI bought a new Gameboy Advance so I can play my old pokemon games again
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10:47.29ImperiosHi
10:48.23OluapWorkerhi
10:59.10ImperiosHm
10:59.23ImperiosI am going to make a female Klaxxa character
10:59.42ImperiosHow do think they (as in, female Klaxxa) should look like
10:59.56ImperiosI mean they ain't Radeons, you can't just slap tits on them
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11:02.41OluapWorkerNo idea
11:03.36Imperios2Perhaps they could be larger and rarer?
11:03.42Imperios2A bit like salarians
11:09.11Liquid_InkMaybe a little bigger or smaller?
11:12.23Imperios2Yeah, a little bigger
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11:33.10OluapWorkerHachi_: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/643/231/1de.jpg
11:38.03AdmiralPandaI agree
11:52.36Imperios2Hm
11:52.47Imperios2Gimme a random Victorian author
11:53.24Liquid_InkBram Stoker?
11:53.35Liquid_InkProbably wrong time period but who cares?
12:07.47Imperios2I figured out that, since Fantasyverse civilisations are based on various RL cultures, I could try to take some inspiration from classical stories made in respective regions
12:08.19Imperios2*novels
12:08.34Imperios2Like, a story revolved around the Klaxxa could be similar in some ways to a Victorian novel
12:09.48Liquid_InkI see
12:11.05Imperios2And Frontier is based on the Russian Empire, ergo I should base it on Russian literature
12:11.22Imperios2Which I need to read for exams anyway
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13:12.29JepardiHi
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13:17.32WormyHi
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13:36.23TheBuldierHello
13:45.08Wormyhi there
13:47.40TheBuldierWormy: Did you see this? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Elemental
13:48.48WormyYep, they look like good creations
13:50.00TheBuldierThanks
13:52.42TheBuldierI was thinking if I should add them to the fantasyverse box
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14:37.08TheBuldierWormy, Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Realities_Altered/Mirror_Universe/Rise_of_the_Shadow#Battle_in_the_Gate
14:43.12WormyThe extreagalactics sounded powerful until they get smashed by the character's powers
14:43.40TheBuldierTechnology vs Essence I suppose
14:44.31Wormyhttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheMagicVersusTechnologyWar
14:44.43TheBuldierElemental energy of a thousands of millions of men transformed into an energy burst
14:47.55TheBuldierI merely used it to show how the Shadow Force became essence users and the obsession of Aliankanv with the power
14:48.20TheBuldierThe Ultimate Bloodbath won't be used again, I think
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15:28.58JepardiHi
15:29.47Wormyhi
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15:42.10CyrannianHello!
15:42.16OluapWorker~slap Cyrannian
15:42.16infobotACTION slaps Cyrannian, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
15:43.37Cyrannian~lecture OluapWorker
15:44.42OluapWorkernu
15:49.21ImperiosOkay
15:49.35ImperiosHi
15:49.49ImperiosOkay I guess that I can download Dark Injection as well
15:50.06ImperiosWhat did you guys do to get the colours right?
15:50.59OluapWorkerFollow the site's instructions
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16:01.53GhelaeHello.
16:02.21CyrannianHi!
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17:29.03Wormybye
17:32.51OluapWorkerspu
17:33.53Xhou
17:35.21XhoI was daydreaming at work today about something I could possibly add in Koldenwelt
17:37.26OluapWorkerwut dis
17:38.10XhoColossus of Time
17:39.05OluapWorkerJo is gonna be butthurt
17:39.27XhoColossus of Time - fuk ur pigs, i am a WARTHOG
17:39.39OluapWorkerhur
17:41.53XhoI'm not quite sure as to what it will look like
17:42.13XhoI'm currently thinking of something along the lines of a Deiwos but slightly different
17:43.13XhoOh well I'll go make it now and see how it turns out
17:44.48GhelaeBye!
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17:49.33Xhostoopid oluap
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17:59.00Xhogud oluap
18:03.00OluapWorkerbad spu
18:06.57XhoRight made the said Colossus
18:08.36OluapWorkershow dis
18:14.06Xhohttp://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/79/Samayapalaka.png dere
18:15.32XhoOluapWorker: dere dam u
18:15.40OluapWorkerdat pose
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18:16.37TheBuldierHello
18:26.40Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Colossi dere added time thing
18:27.20OluapWorkerur a thing
18:30.16TheBuldierHindu style, I like it
18:30.26XhoSamayapalaka's gender is indeterminate btw
18:32.38XhoIn reality Samayapalaka has sealed itself in a labyrinthine complex designed by itself, miles underground
18:33.43XhoReason why is that if Caligaduro got to him and turned him into a servant, then Caligaduro could just stop the course of time and that would be game over
18:35.01XhoWell, turn him into a servant or assimilated his powers
18:37.10TheBuldierSo, if Caliga scape and find Sanayapalaka he/it could control the time?
18:37.26TheBuldierThat would be very bad
18:37.27XhoPretty much
18:37.33XhoOr Kinmorunddraver
18:37.47XhoKinmorunddraver learnt his power to control time from Samayapalaka
18:38.15Xho~seen Hachi_
18:38.21infobothachi_ is currently on #sporewiki (1d 4h 21m 14s). Has said a total of 92 messages. Is idling for 16h 38m 13s, last said: 'Not that Vito would wanna leave'.
18:38.29Xhowell dat dum
18:38.47OluapWorkerVargash - ohi im also underground lemme cuddle u
18:38.58TheBuldierAlso, even with the wiki's standards, Samayapalaka has a disturbing number of 'a'
18:39.03XhoSamayapalaka - r u dum
18:39.11XhoTheBuldier: 'a'?
18:39.31TheBuldier6 'a'
18:39.44TheBuldierSamayapalaka, 6 'a'
18:39.48XhoOh right
18:39.56XhoSamayapalaka is Sanskrit for Timekeeper
18:41.31TheBuldierXho, just for curiosity, how many languages do you know?
18:41.46XhoTwo with grammatical fluency
18:41.55XhoThree if you count Japanese
18:42.01XhoIn terms of vocabulary I have no idea
18:42.36XhoWell my Spanish is sort of rusty come to think of it
18:44.04TheBuldierOh, these would be English, Spanish and Japanese, right?
18:46.07XhoYes
18:47.23OluapWorkerhttp://i.imgur.com/GaOanef.png ur british
18:48.17Xhooh god
18:50.25Hachi_Oh fuck
18:50.36Hachi_I left the IRC on all night and all day
18:50.41OluapWorkerstoopid
18:50.42OluapWorkerAnd hai
18:50.53XhoHow come yours doesn't disconnect and mine does even when I'm on
18:50.55Xhodis dum
18:51.21OluapWorkerchek link I just posted
18:54.27Xhohttp://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131117214534/spore/images/a/a8/PhoenixIsles.png I need to make a page on this
18:55.29TheBuldierUnderwater islands
18:55.44XhoWell
18:55.49XhoThat's what it was before Caligaduro sunk it
18:56.11TheBuldierA long time ago, yes
19:00.35TheBuldierBTW, do you think that Tummork would appear in the Colossi page? Once I make the picture I mean
19:02.23XhoAs an Elemental probably not
19:04.41TheBuldierAlright
19:05.36TheBuldierAlso, as it is a pretty powerful servant of Caligaduro, would he appear in the relation section of him/it?
19:06.09XhoI will have to think about it
19:09.24TheBuldierAlright
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19:39.31XhoOf course I'm not gonna think about it
19:40.26OluapWorkerur a meen one mister spu
19:44.16Xhoyoh
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19:58.53ImperiosHi
19:58.59ImperiosSo little people hur
19:59.04ImperiosSo few people
20:00.16Imperios~dance
20:00.16infobot<(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)>
20:00.25ImperiosOluapWorker Xho Hachi_: Can we RP?
20:00.27ImperiosInferno
20:00.37OluapWorkerNope
20:00.44OluapWorkerI'll be leaving in 18 minutes
20:00.50ImperiosWell we can begin
20:01.37OluapWorkerI said nope
20:01.46OluapWorkerAnd I'm pretty sure Hachi is afk anyway
20:02.09ImperiosDum
20:03.07Hachi_Since when thus place got active to when I said "oh fuck", how much of what did I miss?
20:03.17Hachi_this*
20:03.49OluapWorkerMe posting pictures and Xho making a new colossus
20:05.11Hachi_Samayapalaka
20:05.22Hachi_Yakshrapala - i leik dis wun
20:05.54ImperiosIndian stuff
20:05.57ImperiosIndian stuff everywehre
20:05.57ImperiosHm
20:06.05OluapWorkeru c british joke i posted
20:06.12Hachi_yus
20:06.23Hachi_twas funnily diddly
20:06.30ImperiosWait
20:06.34ImperiosSamayapalaka
20:06.35ImperiosThat means
20:06.39OluapWorkerHachi does much peepee friction pleasure to himself
20:06.40ImperiosMost stick in Russia
20:06.55ImperiosRussian
20:07.09ImperiosAnyway
20:07.09XhoSamayapalaka is Sanskrit
20:07.18ImperiosI guessed that, yes
20:07.23ImperiosWell Xho
20:07.31Hachi_Can't remember what I based Yakshrapala's name on again
20:07.37Hachi_Something involving nature
20:07.41ImperiosBoth Slavic and Indo-Aryan language are Satem
20:07.43ImperiosAs in, they are related
20:07.56ImperiosAnyway
20:07.58XhoTrue
20:08.06Imperioshttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CreatorProvincialism do you think that applies to the Fictionverse?
20:08.22XhoSamayapalaka is Sanskrit for 'Timekeeper'
20:08.40ImperiosXho likes dem Indian stuff, Oluap has a couple of fairly Latin American titles like Marechal and Commandant, et cetera
20:08.48Xhodem indian stoof
20:08.48ImperiosJo has a Cockney dude
20:09.07ImperiosWormy likes dem British folklore
20:09.22ImperiosCyrannian inserts Irish into his fiction sometimes
20:09.32ImperiosAnd I well
20:09.38ImperiosI have Frontier and Yosae :P
20:09.39OluapWorkerI didn't even know commandant was latin american
20:09.44ImperiosWell
20:09.49XhoCommondante hur
20:09.58OluapWorkerur a common
20:10.03ImperiosDunno, that term is rarely used in Europe I believe
20:10.10ImperiosFor me, it's associated with dictatorships and such
20:10.12XhoWell, Comandante in Spanish
20:10.20Hachi_I don't think the rule applies to me
20:10.20Imperios...wait
20:10.22OluapWorkerAnd portuguese
20:10.24ImperiosI just offended you
20:10.25ImperiosDidn't I
20:10.30Xhocomondonto
20:10.35OluapWorkerMe? No
20:10.36ImperiosComondoct
20:10.37Imperioso
20:10.41XhoComondocto
20:10.44XhoXhodocto - u wat
20:10.54OluapWorkerCommandant and commander mean the same thing in portuguese
20:11.56Imperios^ that
20:12.08ImperiosThat's probably why I associate it with Latin America
20:12.10ImperiosTBH
20:12.23ImperiosIn Russian, the word "commandant" is rarely used
20:12.52ImperiosWell there's "the commandant hour"
20:12.55ImperiosI.e curfiew
20:13.15ImperiosAnd there's that Commandant Avenue Station but hey I don't live there
20:14.19OluapWorkerHachi_: http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1384774879776.jpg you're not gonna need eyes for where you're going
20:14.31ImperiosCthulhugirl
20:14.58ImperiosHachi_: Well your English skills are British enough
20:15.10OluapWorkerThat's because he is british hur
20:15.22ImperiosI mean his is more... complex dunno
20:15.47Hachi_My vocabulary
20:15.51ImperiosYeah
20:15.53ImperiosVocabulary
20:16.16OluapWorkerHachi's vocabulary is just several ways of saying "dik"
20:16.44ImperiosHur
20:16.46ImperiosWhich reminds me
20:16.47Hachi_Penis, shaft, length, erection
20:16.49Imperios*deer noises*
20:17.00ImperiosHachi_: Hm
20:17.09ImperiosLemme find that RP page
20:17.11OluapWorkerCollege is gonna be horrible today
20:17.16OluapWorkerBetter get going
20:17.22Hachi_Aww
20:17.23ImperiosFurry tutorial page
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20:18.42CyrannianHello!
20:19.46ImperiosDamn
20:19.51ImperiosNow that Oluap left and Cyr joined
20:19.57ImperiosMeh I'll just PM that to Hachi
20:23.52ImperiosXho and Hachi_: You know
20:24.14ImperiosI think I have the Fantasyverse's cosmology in mind
20:24.22ImperiosRemember the world map picture I made?
20:26.07Hachi_Jah
20:26.46ImperiosCome to think abou we could tie in the Source to that map
20:27.31ImperiosThe energies of the Source begin at the Chaosphere, come through the Outworld at their full strength (which is why Outworlders are powerful mages), then go through Koldenwelt
20:27.55ImperiosAnd from that point, become corrupted and turn into a dark form, the Eldritch Energy
20:28.06Hachi_Eldritch isn't Source
20:28.17ImperiosHm yeah
20:28.36ImperiosWell we could just say it simply dissipates which is why Zazes are not into Source
20:28.58Hachi_I've yet to come up with an origin for Eldritch but it certainly isn't Eldritch
20:29.03Hachi_Source*
20:29.05Hachi_woops
20:29.52ImperiosDoes that work?
20:30.14Hachi_I'd say it dissipates before it reaches the Zazzy world yeah but Eldritch isn't related to Source
20:30.36XhoChaosphere doesn't really relate to the Source either
20:30.49Hachi_I always thought Source was a native energy
20:31.09ImperiosHm
20:31.12ImperiosOR
20:31.45ImperiosWe could say that all worlds have their own magic, which come from the same source but are different from each other
20:31.50ImperiosHm
20:31.58ImperiosLike
20:32.21ImperiosChaosphere has Ebulness, Outworld has dunno, Kolden has Source, WhereverTheZazaneCameFrom has Eldritch
20:32.40XhoOutworld has World-Out
20:32.55ImperiosHur
20:33.06ImperiosYou know the name is ironic
20:33.16ImperiosSince the basic plan of the Outworld's leaders was "OUT OF THIS WORLD"
20:33.35ImperiosWhen theirs started crumbling
20:33.43Hachi_I myself like to imagine Source and Eldritch are energies exclusive to whatever planets they're from, as in the whole Gaia thing
20:34.55ImperiosMakes sense
20:35.13ImperiosSo each planet's magic is different
20:35.34Hachi_It could be that Outworld had its own energy at some point but Source leaked into their world and they just figured that was more beneficial to them than their own native energies
20:36.04ImperiosMaybe
20:36.17ImperiosWell it would make sense for them to have their own energies, dunno
20:36.20ImperiosIf every world has it
20:36.32Hachi_True but then we want to avoid the whole multiple energies thing
20:37.12Imperiosy u make ur own energy then
20:37.13Hachi_I only made Eldritch as a way to make the Zazzies seem actually alien under the belief that Source was related to Koldenwelt in a Gaia sense
20:37.19Imperios...hivemind
20:37.23Hachi_And Zazane are offworlders
20:37.29ImperiosSo are Outs
20:38.02Hachi_But Zazzies can't use Source nor can their cultists, just as non-cultists and non-Zazzies can't use Eldritch
20:38.19XhoAnd the Chaosphere is just where everything equals zero
20:38.24Xhopowa of da 0
20:38.36ImperiosNull
20:38.48ImperiosActually I had that though
20:38.58ImperiosWhat if there's like
20:39.05ImperiosSome universal magic field dunno
20:39.13ImperiosThat, on each world, becomes something else
20:39.42ImperiosOn Koldenwelt, Source, on WTZCF, Eldritch, on Outworld, something else, while in the Chaosphere it just turns into nothingness
20:39.54XhoWTZCF
20:40.03XhoHachi_ maek dat name official nao
20:40.09Hachi_hur
20:40.26ImperiosWatzakpha
20:40.30ImperiosSounds cool
20:40.56Xhohttp://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131016171114/spore/images/2/24/Nothingness.png That's currently what the Void looks like
20:41.22Hachi_I myself like to imagine that on WTZCF there's its own version of an energy intelligence just as Yakshrapala is Koldenwelt's main primordial energy intelligence
20:41.30Hachi_The whole Gaia thing
20:41.42XhoCaligaduro - man fuk ur fukin informants u maek dis hard
20:42.06Hachi_Although it's actually possible Eldritch could be descended from something artificial
20:42.14Hachi_Like a Source poison, maybe
20:42.54Hachi_Though right now I'm not sure on anything pertaining to the origins of Eldritch so I dunt want to make anything official
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20:53.52Imperios2Okay
20:54.01Imperios2Gonna make a female Klaxxa character
20:54.09Imperios2<PROTECTED>
20:54.19Imperios2*the female Klaxxa
20:54.45XhoFemale for one
20:54.50XhoDraconic for the other
20:54.55Xho:helpful:
20:54.59Imperios2...hur
20:55.04Imperios2And Victorian
20:55.10Imperios2Hm
20:55.15Imperios2What if, like
20:55.40Imperios2They're similar to male Klaxxa but slightly more feminine until they're like 30
20:55.55Imperios2Then they grow a bit larger and slightly less humanoid
20:56.10Imperios2And become sexually active
20:56.28Imperios2Well, closer in appearqnce to actual dragons
20:59.27CyrannianI'm just putting it out there that goats are my new favourite thing.
20:59.49Hachi_Imperios2: Make them larger than males
20:59.53Imperios2baaah
20:59.55Hachi_Like Tyrannosaurs
21:00.22Imperios2Not that large but yes thru could be larger
21:00.24Imperios2Hm
21:00.36Imperios2What if Klaxxa females grow up like asari
21:00.54Hachi_Like, mega busty
21:01.11Cyrannianhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1456696_254089574742959_235250912_n.jpg - This made my day.
21:01.18Hachi_olol
21:01.21Imperios2Except that since they have no tits, all parts of their bodies grow
21:01.31Imperios2hur
21:01.40Imperios2I mean
21:01.53Imperios2Instead of growing buxomer they just grow larger
21:02.38Imperios2Then again that would conflict a bit with their Victorian stylr
21:02.52Hachi_How so?
21:03.08Hachi_Females were of quite high importance back in Victorian days, there were queens and such
21:03.16Hachi_And princesses and others
21:03.20Hachi_In fact
21:03.22Hachi_Victorian
21:03.25Hachi_Queen Victoria
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21:03.36Imperios2True
21:03.43Imperios2Maybe
21:04.16Imperios2What if not *all* of their female grow huge?
21:04.45TekDroidHello
21:04.47Hachi_Perhaps specific females grow large
21:05.17Imperios2yes exactly
21:09.19Hachi_Like
21:09.24Hachi_Perhaps they have some royal jelly
21:09.27Hachi_Or some shit like that hur
21:10.17XhoHachi - ill buy 3 jars
21:11.06Imperios2Hachi turns into a female dragon
21:11.39Hachi_You wish hur
21:11.42TekDroid<PROTECTED>
21:12.02Imperios2I am not you hur
21:12.13XhoInstead he dies from poisoning
21:12.33Imperios2Huge lesbian rabbit dragoness
21:12.46Hachi_dat rite dere
21:12.48TekDroidO.o
21:12.49XhoCaligaduro - dat fuked up even by mah standards
21:12.50Imperios2He'd better survive the process hur
21:13.06Imperios2And a British one to boot
21:13.17TekDroidWhat aee we even talking about?
21:13.30TekDroid*are
21:13.44Imperios2Female Klaxxa
21:14.29Hachi_Perhaps Klaxxa egg clutches have a mix and match
21:14.31Hachi_Like, Klaxxa could lay large clutches the same reason frogs and insects do
21:14.33Hachi_And some eggs containing females could have a specific substance which makes the embryos inside grow to be larger and more appealing
21:14.53Hachi_So you'd have a caste system even in their biology
21:15.04Imperios2Could work
21:15.34Hachi_Also
21:15.51Hachi_I was thinking of making a Mi-Go sorta race as a sorta ally or client race for the Klaxxa
21:16.11Hachi_Mi-Go being fungal bee scientist things
21:16.18Hachi_Featured in Lovecraft stories
21:18.06Imperios2Yeah I know
21:18.15Imperios2Plutonian mushroom people
21:24.02Hachi_hur old Warhammer lore said that the Golden Throne was in Nottingham, England
21:24.20Hachi_Which is where Games Workshop HQ is hur
21:24.44Hachi_Modern lore still claims the Emperor is Saint George, the patron saint of England
21:24.57Imperios2Emperor - cor blimey guv
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21:25.21Hachi_Funnily enough, Horus was said to have had one of Britain's most unlikeable accents
21:25.33Hachi_And the Lunar Wolves found it funny when Horus spoke
21:27.54XhoNearly every British accent is unlikeable
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21:31.38Wormyphonehelli
21:31.40Wormyphonehelli
21:31.43Wormyphonelik
21:31.52Wormyphonehello
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21:40.15Technobliteratorhii
21:43.20Imperios2Hi
21:46.47TechnobliteratorImperios2: do you ever play SWTOR still?
21:46.56Technobliteratorwell, you don't now, because you deleted your games for work, but yeah
21:53.22Imperios2Nah
21:53.40WormyphoneYou could play STO with me
21:54.03WormyphoneI command a fleet
21:54.12WormyphoneYou could join
21:54.46XhoOh god, this American Psycho excerpt
21:54.59XhoIs probably the most sickening thing one person could ever read
21:55.22Hachi_Gib
21:56.36Imperios2Xho: Go eat a cupcake.
21:56.43Imperios2Maybe that'll cheer you up
21:56.44Xhok
21:56.47Xhowait wat
21:58.56CyrannianTechnobliterator: I play TOR if you want to meet up at some stage
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22:07.58Wormyphone80hi
22:08.07Wormyphonelol
22:08.44CyrannianWormyphone, my love
22:10.55Liquid_InkXho, I have some bad news for you.
22:11.00WormyphoneHello dearest
22:11.10Xhowat dat
22:11.38Liquid_InkI reduced the size of Azerbaijan back to its real world (de facto) borders. Seeing as it is just a massive penal colony, I didn't think it needed as much land as I gave it.
22:12.22XhoDoesn't bother me
22:12.49Liquid_InkOkay, good.
22:13.41WormyphoneIt might have huge underground prisons
22:13.58Liquid_InkIranian Azerbaijan has gone back to the Ottomans.
22:14.46Liquid_InkI figure that most of the Azeris have immigrated there, because they can't really live in a massive penal colony.
22:17.35Liquid_InkHmm. I forgot to give Nakhchivan back to them. I'll do that this afternoon.
22:17.43Xho"There was a Japanese computer virus that would simply replace all the files on your computer with pictures of squid."
22:17.48XhoHachi - i liek dis virus
22:18.00Hachi_olol#
22:18.03Liquid_InkI'm off now.
22:18.24Wormyphonelol
22:22.26Cyranniandat tweet
22:26.50Wormyphonetest
22:33.43TekDroidI was about to ask if 4 gas giants was unrealistically high for a G class star. Then I facepalmed.
22:40.13Wormyphoneolol
22:44.22Wormyphonetest
22:44.52TekDroidHi
22:45.23Wormyphonehello
22:45.59WormyphoneI might grow a mostache for Movember
22:46.29TekDroidA little late into the month though.
22:47.38WormyphoneAll it  will  takwe is a couple  of days for me
22:47.44TekDroidTrue.
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22:49.07Hachi_hai u
22:49.11Hachi_Back from college early?
22:49.15WormyphoneHi
22:49.28OluapPlayerYeah
22:49.30OluapPlayerI had an exam today
22:49.36OluapPlayerIt went a lot better than I expected
22:49.49Hachi_Ooh nice
22:50.11OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y14TwUGQ3xE jesus christ imagine this animated
22:52.35Hachi_Holy fuck
22:52.36Hachi_Wait
22:52.42Hachi_Simba dies in that ending?
22:52.53OluapPlayerNope
22:53.09OluapPlayerHe fell on a tree
22:53.43Hachi_Oh right
22:53.50OluapPlayerStill, Scar laughing maniacally while fire consumes him alive
22:53.52OluapPlayersum grimdark shi rite dere
22:54.01Hachi_I would have preferred it
22:54.11Hachi_As in Scar being torched to death
22:54.35OluapPlayerI remember the Lion King 2 ending also being changed because the original version was too dark
22:54.41Hachi_Oh?
22:54.55OluapPlayerWhat's the name of that lioness villain again?
22:55.29Hachi_Zira, I think
22:55.36OluapPlayerYeah her
22:56.15OluapPlayerIn the normal movie, she fall into a river to her death while trying to hold on Simba's daughter's hand
22:56.38OluapPlayerIn the original version, she deliberately fall to her death
22:56.42OluapPlayeras in, she commits suicide
22:56.45Hachi_Damn, really?
22:56.47OluapPlayer*falls
22:56.57OluapPlayerlemme see if I can find a link to it
22:57.02Hachi_I remember earlier in the film one of her sons, at least I think it was her son, gets crushed under a bunch of logs
22:57.35OluapPlayerYeah her dorky son gets crushed
22:57.39OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoctlRyGdf8 and here it is
22:59.19Hachi_Well holy fuck
22:59.43Hachi_Zira always scared me a little more than Scar
22:59.45Hachi_Absolutely insane lioness bitch
22:59.55OluapPlayerWhat's with the Lion King films and their hyper dark cut endings hur
23:00.13Hachi_Well, the Lion King films are based on Shakespeare tells, where most people die hur
23:00.28Hachi_First Lion King is based on Hamlet, second is on Romeo and Juliet
23:00.28TekDroidYeah. XD
23:00.35TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer: what was the exam on?
23:00.46OluapPlayerOn the current version of the movie, Zira actually is smiling when she falls
23:00.51OluapPlayerBut they added a scream
23:00.54OluapPlayerMaths
23:00.59Technobliteratoroh, ouch
23:01.04Hachi_Damn
23:01.05Technobliteratorwell good to hear it went well
23:01.07Hachi_To the maths I mean
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23:01.14Hachi_And Zira as well, but more to the maths
23:01.20OluapPlayerhur
23:01.29Technobliteratorthe lion king makes me cry every time
23:01.53Hachi_Watched Lion King with my nephew recently
23:01.54Hachi_Almost cried, had to leave the room
23:02.04OluapPlayerClassic Disney movies always bring me good memories
23:02.07Technobliterator:D
23:02.12Technobliteratori know right
23:02.24Technobliteratorif you guys like emotional films you should play FFVII...just saying :L
23:02.28OluapPlayerDie
23:02.48Technobliteratornu
23:02.53Hachi_I would've preferred the Lion King films to have kept their dark endings admittedly but then that's probably just because I'm older and if they included those endings it would probably cause nightmare fuel
23:03.00OluapPlayerIf you want emotional then play Pokemon Mystery Dungeon hur
23:03.04Hachi_^
23:03.07Hachi_Yus
23:03.15Technobliteratormystery dungeon, eh?
23:03.19OluapPlayerFirst time I finished Explorers I cried like a little bitch
23:03.34OluapPlayerno kidding hur
23:03.40TekDroidMeh, I'm not very emotional.
23:03.41Hachi_hur, indeed, it's rather upsetting
23:04.05TekDroidWas sad though.
23:04.16TechnobliteratorI've known "not very emotional" people cry in MGS4 and FFVII
23:04.27Technobliteratordespite no film ever making them cry ever
23:04.36Hachi_Never cried over FF
23:04.37OluapPlayerIt takes a lot for a videogame to make me cry. So if it doesn, it's a good one hur
23:04.43Hachi_MGS however
23:04.44Technobliteratorindeed
23:04.56Technobliteratorwait hachi, you played Final Fantasy? since when :o
23:05.23Hachi_I played one or two of the old ones, maybe FF7 at some point, can't remember
23:05.32Hachi_But I don't remember crying
23:05.48Technobliteratoryou won't in that case
23:05.59Technobliteratoryou have to, well, get to know the characters and shit
23:06.27Technobliteratoreven though you know aeris dies, you can't help but shed a tear when she does
23:06.35Hachi_I dunno
23:06.35Technobliteratoranyways
23:06.42Hachi_The graphics kinda ruin that scene for me hur
23:06.52Technobliteratorif I'm planning on getting an emulator to give pokemon a try
23:06.55Technobliteratorwhich should I get first
23:07.08OluapPlayerHmm
23:07.15OluapPlayerThat's kind of hard to say
23:07.23Hachi_Start your journey at the beginning
23:07.51OluapPlayerConsidering you never played before you won't miss more recent Pokemon by starting with an older game
23:08.02OluapPlayerSo you can start with FireRed or LeafGreen
23:08.10OluapPlayeraka Gen 1 remakes
23:08.11TechnobliteratorI rather doubt I'll have time to play the entire series, I'm just giving it a go so that I have a kind of taster of the series
23:08.13Technobliteratoroh, I see
23:08.25Technobliteratorand I'm guessing they're all for Nintendo consoles and not PC
23:08.35OluapPlayerNintendo only makes games for Nintendo consoles
23:08.42Technobliteratorfair point
23:08.53Technobliteratornot that I can blame them
23:09.04Technobliteratorbecause well
23:09.08OluapPlayerFireRed and LeafGreen are two versions of the same game, the only difference between them are a few exclusive Pokemon
23:09.30OluapPlayerAnd they're Game Boy Advance games
23:09.35OluapPlayerSo you need a GBA emulator to play them
23:09.58Technobliterator"omg guys we have just made the most incredible mario game ever let's release it on pc and take away a compelling reason to buy one of our consoles!!!!!!!!!" is hardly what I imagine going on in nintendo's office
23:10.07Technobliteratorhm, are they long games?
23:10.17OluapPlayerFairly long
23:10.46Technobliteratormass effect kind of long?
23:10.49Hachi_Longer
23:10.51OluapPlayerFor comparasion it took me 20 hours to finish Pokemon White, and that's not counting post-credits content
23:11.00Technobliteratorright
23:11.03Hachi_The Mystery Dungeon series though
23:11.04Hachi_My God
23:11.10Technobliteratorso, almost the length of an FF game
23:11.14OluapPlayerMystery Dungeon are a whole new level of long
23:11.16Technobliteratorit literally took me a year to finish VII
23:11.18Technobliteratorno lie
23:11.24OluapPlayerYou get the credits halfway through the game
23:11.40Technobliterator...Well fuck.
23:11.59OluapPlayerYou can say Mystery Dungeon has a plot and then a sequel plot
23:12.00Technobliteratoryeah, I'm pretty sure I can only commit to a single game
23:12.24TechnobliteratorI barely know the plot, can you fill me in?
23:12.34OluapPlayerPokémon plot? Simple
23:13.01OluapPlayerYou're a 10 year old kid, you're in a world full of super-powerful creatures, your goal is to become the champion
23:13.16Technobliteratorsounds simple enough
23:13.25OluapPlayerHow much more depth the plot has depends of the game
23:13.35OluapPlayerGen 1's plot is basically that + Team Rocket
23:13.45Hachi_Mystery Dungeon is different though
23:13.53OluapPlayerOh yes
23:14.00OluapPlayerMystery Dungeon is a game you play for the plot
23:14.51Technobliteratormystery dungeon sounds interestin
23:14.51Technobliteratorg
23:14.55OluapPlayerIt is
23:15.03OluapPlayerBut it's also fairly hard
23:15.06Hachi_The story and characters are gripping
23:16.02Technobliteratorfairly hard gameplay wise?
23:16.07OluapPlayerYes
23:16.21Technobliteratormeh, I don't think that'll be a problem
23:16.21Hachi_Oh my God the bosses
23:16.38OluapPlayerGroudon - hih
23:16.45Hachi_ech
23:17.08Hachi_I found Kyogre easier than Groudon
23:17.20Hachi_Funnily enough, after I beat Kyogre it requested to be a team mate
23:17.25OluapPlayerGen 2 plot = become champion + stop Team Rocket again. Gen 3 plot = become champion + stop Team Magma and Aqua from destroying the world. Gen 4 = become champion + stop Team Galactic from destroying the universe. Gen 5 = become champion + stop Team Plasma from dominating the region
23:17.30OluapPlayerYou can see a trend here
23:17.48Technobliteratoryeah, I can
23:18.12OluapPlayerOh and Gen 6 = become champion + stop Team Flare from being Hitlers
23:18.42Technobliteratorso
23:18.45Technobliteratorteams are all bad
23:18.48Technobliteratorstop teams
23:18.51OluapPlayerYes
23:19.00OluapPlayerHow much the teams add depth to the plot varies
23:19.02Technobliteratorsounds like dota
23:19.13OluapPlayerGen 5 is widely seen as the games with the best plot
23:19.20OluapPlayerThis is for the main series only of course
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23:19.36TechnobliteratorGen 5 is more than one game?!
23:19.38Technobliteratorhii
23:19.54OluapPlayerAll Gens past 2 have more than one game
23:20.26TybusenHello
23:20.29Technobliteratorhow many is 5 made of?
23:20.33TybusenI'm guessing Pokemon discussion
23:21.39OluapPlayerRed and Blue -> Gold, Silver and Crystal -> Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, FireRed and LeafGreen -> Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold and Soulsilver -> Black, White, Black 2 and White 2 -> X and Y
23:22.29TechnobliteratorTybusen: I have played almost every popular series of games ever created with Pokemon being one I haven'tr tried, thus I figure I should give it a go
23:22.46OluapPlayerFireRed is a Gen 1 remake but it's technically a Gen 3 game
23:22.59OluapPlayerBecause it includes all Pokemon added up to Gen 3
23:23.04TybusenI'd suggest Gen 3 being the place you should start
23:23.35TybusenOr Gen 4 with HeartGold SoulSilver
23:23.53Hachi_No, don't start at Gen 4
23:23.57Hachi_Start at Gen 3
23:23.59Hachi_The start
23:24.13OluapPlayerYou'll learn to hate Gary Motherfucking Oak
23:24.21TybusenThis is true
23:25.09TybusenThough the only reason I suggested Gen 4 was because of the Physical/Special Split, which in my opinion is one of the most important gameplay mechanic changes in the series
23:25.46OluapPlayerFor someone playing casually, it doesn't make that much of a difference
23:25.57OluapPlayerAlso this is just so Jo can start getting into the series
23:26.04TybusenAh yes
23:26.25TybusenThen I'd start with Gen 3
23:26.58TybusenAfter considering remakes, Gen 3 is the true beginning of the modern series
23:27.11OluapPlayerhttp://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_National_Pok%C3%A9dex_number#Generation_I meet your potential critters hur
23:27.58TybusenThe only thing about FRLG is that there is a severe lack of Gardevoir and Flygon
23:28.10OluapPlayerhur
23:28.29Hachi_Especially a severe lack of Gardevoir
23:28.34OluapPlayerdang we're at 718 Pokemon now
23:28.36OluapPlayerso many
23:28.41TybusenOh, and on that list, don't pay attention to the Fairy type, it didn't exist in Gen 3
23:28.52OluapPlayerOh yeah
23:29.03OluapPlayerReplace all "Fairy" you see on that list with "Normal"
23:29.09TybusenExcept for Mr. Mime
23:29.17TybusenWho was pure Psychic in Gen 3
23:29.21OluapPlayerNo one cares for Mr. Mime hur
23:29.42OluapPlayerMr. Mime aka rapist
23:29.53TybusenShe might bring a Fighting-type to Sabrina's gym if she thought Mr. Mime was Normal
23:29.57TechnobliteratorIt's literally so I can just get an overview of the series as a whole
23:30.22OluapPlayerYeah FireRed is a good game to start
23:30.31OluapPlayerSo do dis and become one of us
23:30.33TybusenThen Gen 3 is the best place for an overview since it has both one of the more simplistic entries in the series and also a more plot-focused entry
23:30.33OluapPlayerone of ussss
23:30.57TybusenFRLG is a great intro to the series itself, then RSE is probably the second game you should play
23:31.13TybusenBecause Gardevoir
23:31.26OluapPlayerIf you decide to play more games after FireRed
23:31.32OluapPlayerAlways go for the "third" version
23:31.40OluapPlayerSince they always have more content
23:31.43Technobliteratorthird versio nof...?
23:31.49OluapPlayerFor example
23:31.53OluapPlayerBack when Gen 3 started
23:31.58OluapPlayerThey released Ruby and Sapphire
23:32.13OluapPlayerA while later they released Emerald, which has content from both Ruby and Sapphire + expanded plot
23:32.30TybusenYeah, the third versions are generally much better than the paired versions
23:32.49Technobliteratoroh, I see
23:33.03OluapPlayerGen 5 didn't have third versions though, they actually released a pair of sequels
23:33.46TybusenI don't know if B2W2 were superior to BW, though B2W2 you can actually use some friggin non-Unova Pokes
23:34.24OluapPlayerI played only a bit of White 2 and I enjoyed using non-Unova Pokes from the start
23:34.58Hachi_Apparently the Sanskrit word for "war" meant "desire for more cows"
23:35.12OluapPlayerMetal Man War
23:36.11Technobliteratorthis information
23:36.18Technobliteratoris very overwhelming
23:36.21Technobliteratorespecially for a blonde
23:36.34TybusenOluapPlayer: Metal Man War -> Metal Man desire for more cows -> Metal cows?
23:36.54OluapPlayerDesire for metal man cows
23:37.04OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: For now just play FireRed
23:37.16Technobliteratoralright
23:37.32TybusenTechnobliterator: All you need to know is that FireRed is your starting point and that Gary is a dick
23:37.43OluapPlayerYes hur
23:37.52TybusenAnd that FAIRIES don't exist
23:38.11Technobliteratorwell i'll play pokemon but you guys play ffvii or dai
23:38.20OluapPlayeris ded
23:38.33Technobliteratorpropa propa dum
23:40.08OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je9movOcDow one good thing about Mystery Dungeon is that it has a gorgeous soundtrack
23:40.10Technobliteratorbare in mind I'm also playing SWTOR
23:40.26Technobliteratoralong with Dota, FF, now trying pokemon...and GTA...yeah.
23:40.30TybusenAll the Pokemon games have a gorgeous soundtrack u dum
23:40.34TechnobliteratorI have a pretty busy gaming life
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23:41.07DrodoEmpireHey. everyone.
23:41.09Technobliteratorhi
23:41.13TybusenKonnichiwa
23:41.20Technobliteratorthough there was a torture scene in GTA that largely put me off
23:41.37OluapPlayerYou should like Dialgia because he's the Pokemon universe's god of time hur
23:41.43OluapPlayer*Dialga
23:41.48Technobliteratorsounds cool already
23:42.05OluapPlayerhttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111105142759/nintendo/en/images/4/4a/Dialga.png this is Dialga
23:42.36OluapPlayerA 5.4 meter tall dragon made of steel who rules time
23:42.41TechnobliteratorI need to kill Emerald Weapon, Ruby Weapon, maybe start a second FFVII playthrough, get going with SWTOR then I'll download emulator and do stoof
23:42.51Technobliteratoroohh, I know him!
23:43.24Tybusen>Emerald Weapon, Ruby Weapon
23:43.33Tybusenwhat happened to Sapphire Weapon hur
23:44.01OluapPlayerLegendary Pokemon started out just as "very rare Pokes" but now they're almost all demigods/gods representing something
23:44.12Technobliteratorif they had a Sapphire Weaponi t would be ridiculous
23:44.25TechnobliteratorEmerald and Ruby Weapon are already two of the hardest bosses ever in gaming period
23:45.03OluapPlayerSince you're playing FireRed, you'll encounter Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres and Mewtwo
23:45.35TybusenAnd Entei, Raikou, or Suicune in the post-game
23:45.55Technobliteratorcan I capture them if I beat them?
23:46.04OluapPlayerYou need to capture OR beat them
23:46.11OluapPlayerYou can't do both
23:46.12Technobliteratorhuh?
23:46.13TybusenYou can't capture them if they've been beaten
23:46.25Technobliteratori don't understand :s
23:46.36TybusenYou can't capture a wild Pokemon that's fainted
23:46.41OluapPlayerfainted = ded
23:46.44TybusenAnd beating a Pokemon means fainting it
23:46.46Hachi_You either spare their lives by capturing them or you kill them#
23:46.50OluapPlayerhur
23:46.52OluapPlayerMore or less
23:46.55Tybusen"faint" them
23:47.03Technobliteratorwhy would you ever kill them though?
23:47.08TybusenFor EXP
23:47.10Technobliteratorsurely you'd just want to capture them
23:47.11OluapPlayerFor loot and glory hur
23:47.12Hachi_To carry on with your journey
23:47.16Hachi_And experience
23:47.27Technobliteratorso you get no exp for capturing them
23:47.28OluapPlayerWell you don't defeat legendary Pokemon obviously
23:47.28Technobliteratoruhh
23:47.35TybusenPacifism will get you nowhere in the Pokemon world
23:47.37OluapPlayerYou only get exp for capturing in Gen 6
23:47.50Hachi_You wouldn't capture two of the same Pokemon unless you plan to breed them
23:48.05Hachi_Otherwise, you already caught that particular Pokemon, so you're free to kill it
23:48.10OluapPlayerTo capture a Pokemon you need to bring them to low HP, but not actually drop their HP to zero
23:48.10TybusenEven then, if you have a female of a species, you don't need another of that species :U
23:48.26OluapPlayerLet's not enter in breeding details
23:48.39OluapPlayerCause breeding is really fucking complicated
23:48.46TybusenThe game usually explains this for you in the first two towns
23:48.57OluapPlayerYeah, capture is all explained in-game
23:49.17TybusenFRLG has a pretty extensive help system for most of the basics
23:49.40OluapPlayeryeah that's another reason it's a good game to start
23:49.55OluapPlayerYou get an item that lets you see a tutorial at anytime you want
23:50.12Technobliteratorso kind of like chocobo breeding in ffvii
23:50.21OluapPlayerdunno hur
23:50.34Technobliteratoryou get two chocobos of opposite sex
23:50.39Technobliteratortry to mate them for a better one
23:50.51OluapPlayerYou fight the Poke -> you leave the Poke weakened -> you throw the Pokeball at the Poke -> you capture it
23:50.57OluapPlayerThat's capture in a nutshell
23:51.16Technobliteratorand how do you kill it?
23:51.22Technobliteratoris it possible to accidently kill it?
23:51.22TybusenDrop the HP to zero
23:51.24OluapPlayerJust attack it until it's down
23:51.33OluapPlayerYes
23:51.43OluapPlayerBecause of that you should save the game before fighting a legendary
23:51.55TybusenNothing is more infuriating in the Pokemon series than accidentally killing a rare Pokemon before you can catch it
23:52.04OluapPlayerSo if you kill it, just reset and try again
23:52.27TybusenI think in FRLG though they implemented the system where you can get them to respawn by defeating the Elite 4
23:52.50OluapPlayerI think that applies to all games after Ruby and Sapphire
23:52.58OluapPlayerAnyway gotta get something to eat
23:52.59OluapPlayerbrb
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23:54.40Technobliteratorthis is all sounding very japanese to me
23:54.46Technobliteratorwhich is gud because japanese games are the best
23:55.25TekDroidShort version: throw attacks until they die to win
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