IRC log for #sporewiki on 20131027

00:01.49OluapPlayerHichi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlxaWFDCDUE&feature=player_embedded EY EY
00:02.17Hichiolol
00:03.23AngrybirdsJust opened this, if anyone wants to communicate with or within Katar: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AKatar_Discussion_Board
00:03.56MonetCyrannian: I hope that was an unpopulated asteroid they blew up
00:04.19CyrannianOkastana actually :P
00:05.15TekDroidEquivalent to... Despayre, I think it's called?
00:05.51MonetActually blowing up Okastana makes more sense.
00:07.07TekDroidOh god... they're pulling something off/out of my vehicle...
00:08.07OluapPlayerMonet chek section
00:08.10OluapPlayerAnd the one before it
00:08.21AngrybirdsTek : What would that be?
00:08.31Angrybirdsay]
00:08.43Angrybirds^ Bird just ran across my keyboard.
00:16.10MonetDamn Kolossus
00:26.17Angrybirdstest
00:32.29Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Technological_Terror - kaBOOM
00:34.17OluapPlayeryey
00:35.45OluapPlayerApollo - oh fuk wat hav i agreed with
00:46.19MonetWait...so basically this thing is a superlaser cannon powerful enough to punch though planetary shields?
00:48.00OluapPlayerWink wink, there's a section for what happens directly after that
00:48.05OluapPlayerAnd I'm currently writing it
00:48.08OluapPlayerSo hold on your pants
00:49.33Hichihttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Realities_Altered/Dysnomia/Episode_1#Part_1 Did some reworking, part 1 of part 1 is done hur
00:50.44HichiMore paragraphs to read but they're definitely not as long
00:50.50HichiAnd a little more progressive to
00:50.56Hichitoo*
00:51.12OluapPlayerHichi: chek sekshun
00:51.26Hichinoh workin
00:53.31OluapPlayerfak u woman
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00:57.46OluapPlayerHe multiplies
01:04.27HichiBTW I also changed a lot of the dialogue on that chapter
01:04.32HichiAnd a lot of the description
01:04.48OluapPlayerI'll read after i'm done with this thingy
01:04.57OluapPlayerWhich's coming up really nicely I gotta add
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01:13.28OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#One_Last_Attack This was really fun to write
01:13.36OluapPlayer~poke Cyrannian
01:13.37infobotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cyrannian, pokes Cyrannian repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
01:13.54CyrannianI'll look now
01:16.52CyrannianThat was awesome!
01:17.20OluapPlayeryey
01:17.25HichiOoh, Arrtkar vs Meketanor
01:18.07CyrannianAnd we all know who that mysterious entity is.
01:18.13CyrannianTigarlu.
01:19.06OluapPlayerAye
01:20.29HichiI liked Apollo's doubt in the above section
01:35.26MonetI'm liking the changes to Dysnomia.
01:36.36Liquid_InkHello
01:36.45Wormyhi
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01:37.13AvillanHey
01:40.10Wormyhello
01:40.44HichiMonet: I hope it's easier to read now
01:41.29MonetIt's a lot easier, yeah
01:43.35OluapPlayerMonet: Can you check the follow-up section?
01:44.40MonetI just did
01:47.34MonetFight was pretty intense, it's probably the first time i've seen Meketanor sustain an injury
01:48.17OluapPlayerI think it's the first time he's ever sustained an injury ever
01:48.21CyrannianIt was probably my favourite part so far
01:48.26CyrannianNightie night!
01:48.30OluapPlayerbai
01:48.46Wormyhttp://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22029401.700-has-the-time-come-to-abandon-online-anonymity.html
01:48.48Wormybye.
01:48.56HichiAlways good to see an equal fight between two superpowered characters
01:50.17Wormybye
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01:53.08OluapPlayerImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Technological_Terror chek
01:59.48Hichihttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1382437_685197098172179_1708786723_n.png
02:00.07OluapPlayerhur
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02:54.13OfficerJackalHello!
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03:21.57TekDroidHey
03:22.51OfficerJackalHey!
03:23.45TekDroidWell, I ended up walking away from that car accident with minimal injury
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08:08.40JepardiHi
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09:04.40AdmiralPandahey dino
09:04.44dinohellow
09:07.46dinohow is all doing?
09:08.29AdmiralPandanot bad
09:08.40AdmiralPandaI suddenly have a compulsion to play a druid in dungeons and dragons
09:09.44dinohaha ok
09:25.15Imperios2dino: http://www.sporistics.com/?p=asset:500942996960
09:27.40Imperios2[[]]
09:27.41morgothBotPyImperios2 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
09:27.45Imperios2Also hi dino
09:48.47dinohello imperios
09:49.35dinohaha, lol that looks fun :D
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10:21.49Imperios2Hi Mon
10:21.58MonetHi
10:22.06Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Monet47/New_Event:_Praetoral_Ball
10:22.06AdmiralPandahey monet
10:24.38AdmiralPandaMonet: Oh if Kaios were to somehow attend that... but seriously, Hel' might be able to
10:25.05MonetAre you sure Hel' won't get bored?
10:25.54AdmiralPandayou said most of the guests will have some sort of military background, so he'll probably end up swapping stories if nothing else
10:26.26MonetIn most cases we're talking 10 years mandatory military service
10:27.34AdmiralPandaI'm sure there'll be a couple of old war dogs somewhere
10:28.21AdmiralPanda10 years is also plenty of time to have at least done something interesting
10:28.31MonetTrue
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10:29.36AdmiralPandaI suppose people might also try to ingratiate themselves to him given his links to Uriel
10:30.17MonetMaybe, it's mostly praetors attending so they either have connections to House Ultanos, or they desperately want it
10:31.54AdmiralPandaother than that, I don't have any other characters who would be reasonably capable of attending
10:33.29Imperios2Hi
10:33.40OluapPlayerhi
10:33.51Imperios2Out of my characters, Nelana and Andorrus could attend
10:33.56Imperios2Abal'nyan too probably
10:36.59MonetI can add them to the list. All three or just one or two?
10:37.57Imperios2All of them
10:38.31dino@Monet: IOh interessting ball!
10:40.28MonetI am currently planning this with the constant worry it might end up as quite boring for some
10:40.36Monetor a lot of people
10:41.38Imperios2We could add some political intrigue
10:41.57Imperios2Perhaps someone could even get killed
10:43.50Imperios2Y'know, poisoned
10:44.38MonetWell...does someone really have to die to make things interesting?
10:44.57Imperios2That was just an example
10:47.46MonetI am thinking of includign political intrigue.
10:48.55dinoI think political intrigues are interessitng
10:52.01dinooh be back ltr, might check on irc occiassianly
10:52.23MonetOKay
11:04.48Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Monet47/New_Event:_Praetoral_Ball#Guest_list updated. Also included a very special Patricus for lols
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11:08.41MonetRefresh the page, I tweaked the name
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11:34.17AdmiralPandaHm, I wonder if I should use this as an opportunity to make a new Fordan character
11:39.57MonetYou could, yeah
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11:43.11Wormyhi
11:43.35Liquid_InkHello.
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11:44.20Wormyhi
11:45.21OluapPlayerspu
11:45.21XhoMorning
11:45.22XhoI think
11:45.39XhoMonet: I just edited your blog to confirm the character I am using for said ball
11:47.43WormyPsi?
11:47.53XhoNope
11:48.05XhoKithworto's uncle/cousin once removed
11:48.08XhoOne of those two
11:48.21XhoIn other words he's one of the heads of the Aknatazán family
11:50.38WormyLunarai will be there, with his finest path helmet and gentlemen explorer clothes
11:50.43Wormy*pith
11:50.47XhoIn Kicathian terms that means he's more or less politically and socially the most powerful Kicath alive
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11:56.50OluapPlayerXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Meeting_of_Spinkers chek dis
11:57.02OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Technological_Terror and dis and the section below it
11:59.47XhoAntediluvian going around smacking people
12:00.26XhoAngazhar - wat dafuq do u think ur doin
12:00.43OluapPlayerAnteddy - out of char moment top lel
12:01.07XhoAngazhar - get dafuq bak into ur waptorverse and stay dere
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12:01.49ImperiosHi
12:01.53OluapPlayerImperios: You seen the new Fog War sections yet?
12:02.11MonetXho: Tnaks. Couldn't remember the lame
12:02.21XhoOh god that sentence
12:02.26Monetname*
12:02.28Monetlol
12:02.29XhoYou remind of that character from Oblivion
12:02.32XhoWhatever his name was
12:02.58Xhohttp://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Bolwing This one
12:03.01WormyI had a dream that I was a WWII superspy and was fighting a German superspy
12:03.03MonetBTW I added a name reference to the gest list.
12:03.37ImperiosOluapPlayer: I did
12:03.46ImperiosDun dun duun dun dun duuun
12:03.51ImperiosDun dun duuun
12:04.15MonetI was hoping somsone may notice it.
12:07.10MonetBlergh I'll give a clue: Game ofThrones
12:07.23XhoOh I got it
12:07.26XhoHouse Lannius
12:07.33WormyLoron internet http://www.gizoogle.net/index.php?search=spore&se=Gizoogle+Dis+Shiznit
12:07.45MonetXho: And the first name
12:07.52Xhohur
12:08.06XhoIf he's going to be a little bitch expect no mercy from anyone hur
12:08.48MonetThen go nuts
12:11.04MonetI do plan to make him a bit of a bitch.
12:11.55XhoJarfos - YOU KICATH ARE BASTARDS         Kitalatheraz - sorry wat
12:15.41XhoI dunno whether it would be wise to call the most powerful 'celebrity' in Kicathian culture a bastard
12:15.49MonetDunno if this is a turn-off but there will be some ingratiation going on, especially among nobles who desire stronger ties to House Ultanos.
12:16.30XhoI had to look up what ingratitation meant
12:16.35OluapPlayerSantorakh - ur a bastard
12:16.42XhoDamn has my vocabulary taken a hit
12:17.47MonetGiven Kithworto's connection to Uriel, Kitalatheraz may or may not be approached
12:18.03Xhohur
12:18.31XhoIn the sense he has massive social sway, and his nephew/cousin once removed is a does-not-take-shit demigod
12:18.49MonetWormy: Shall I add him to the list then?
12:19.25XhoAt least it's not Nu
12:19.38OluapPlayerNu - nobles more liek future-ded-men
12:20.18XhoExactly hur
12:20.20XhoOr Psi actually
12:20.24XhoPsi probably worse
12:20.43MonetPsi - Fuk u snobs now gimme alldat wine
12:21.10MonetHow about Chi?
12:21.10XhoServants go around offering nobles wine -> Psi cannonballs out of nowhere, crushes the servant and drinks all of the wine
12:21.27XhoChi would be bad as well
12:21.49XhoOne pretentious remark will result in a violent response
12:22.11OluapPlayerPsi - noble. is dat sum kind of beer
12:22.29XhoPsi attempts to drink Draconis nobles
12:22.42XhoGets a straw and just places it on the Draconis' head
12:22.51OluapPlayerolol
12:23.36OluapPlayerThe only Kicath agent who could be in a social environment and not kill everyone seems to be Zeta
12:23.39OluapPlayerAnd maybe Tau too
12:24.25XhoTau would last longer but she's still impatient
12:24.27MonetYeah, i'm wondering of the situational implications of turning up to a ball looking like you just polished your battlefield armour.
12:25.08XhoI think 99% of all Kicath Agents are psychopaths
12:25.59MonetAgency creates an army of guarenteed pschopaths -> considers project a roaring success.
12:26.11WormyXho's blast radius when he eats a takeout http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?&kt=100000&lat=50.9097004&lng=-1.4043509&ff=52&zm=7
12:26.35XhoJesus fucking christ that's a huge nuke
12:27.11OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/628/564/833.gif holy fok
12:28.18MonetXho eats takeout -> destroys Hampshire
12:28.37XhoOluapPlayer: Hachi on a motorcycle after Tau realising he was sleeping on top of her
12:28.49OluapPlayerolol
12:29.19OluapPlayerHachi - i been sleepin on u dis week              Tau - http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/630/766/da8.gif
12:32.10OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/630/313/13f.gif The Remnant to the rest of Borealis
12:32.26Xhoollo
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12:34.37WormyOluapPlayer:  http://www.maninthedark.com/
12:35.04XhoIf a 100 Mt bomb was to be placed exactly over where I live
12:35.12XhoThermal radiation would hit London
12:35.16OluapPlayerWormy: That's kinda creepy
12:37.20XhoAnd if it were to be placed over my house it would kill around 10,000,000 people
12:46.04OluapPlayermany deds
12:47.26Wormyhttp://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap3d/?&clat=51.67148182983255&clng=-1.1022840922433352&calt=244.38442401754511&chdg=153.7525714625671&ctlt=109.99871829793136&crll=1.033680271475643e-14&mlat=50.90974365080354&mlng=-1.404350897253479&mtyp=1&malt=19.6087703704834&kt=100000
12:47.29Wormy3D version
12:49.17MonetThe horror
12:51.12WormyThe classic version does speculative yields, I'm going to try K-T
12:52.24Wormy240 gigatons
12:52.43Wormyactually wrong
12:52.46XhoOh god what
12:52.53Xho240 gigatons of nuke
12:52.57Xho:apocalypse.wav:
12:53.05Wormy100 teratons
12:53.20Xhogeezush
12:53.22WormyThat was the power of the asteroid that killed the dinos
12:53.28MonetXho + takeaway = coke bottle + tube of mentos
12:54.00XhoWormy: That would have taken out the entire world at least
12:55.23MonetAnything biger than a shrew was killed
12:56.01Wormyboom http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/classic/?lat=52.9225301&lng=-1.4746185999999852&zm=2&kt=1000000000
12:56.46OluapPlayerhttp://www.p4rgaming.com/peta-member-traumatized-by-pokemon-sues-nintendo-for-emotional-distress/ Haha oh wow
12:57.00WormyIt might have looked like this, ejecting magma into ther atmosphere superheating it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zvCUmeoHpw
12:57.59XhoWell if it didn't blast billions of tons of rock and lava into the air you'd be a bit safer
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12:58.48LawfulInsaneHello.
12:58.59MonetWrmy: That astroid looks as big as the moon
12:59.11WormyCrazy thing is, it seems most Tier 2 to 1 empires have ships with firepower like this
12:59.52XhoAs in conventionally
12:59.52LawfulInsanewat dis
12:59.53WormyApparentely, six asteroids that size have collided with the Earth
13:00.42MonetThe asteroid in that video is easily 100km in diameter
13:02.00XhoShu'suvreca - noobs
13:02.07OluapPlayerhur
13:02.33OluapPlayerShu'suvreca - I don't collide with planets, planets collide with me
13:02.45LawfulInsaneHOH
13:02.51Xho"I'm not allowed out on Halloween. Apparently being in character for your costume is illegal."
13:02.53XhoThis quote
13:03.00OluapPlayerhur
13:08.24OluapPlayerNeeds more Hachi
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13:10.23AdmiralPandaWe do need more Hachi here, until then I'ma work on characters
13:10.43XhoI forgot what happened in Tantum you know
13:10.59OluapPlayerThe team is on the Mirrorverse
13:11.10XhoRight
13:11.20XhoOh yeah I know now
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13:12.43LawfulInsaneHello again.
13:14.52LawfulInsane~test
13:14.52infobotextra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny
13:22.35LawfulInsane~test
13:22.35infobothmm... test is not funny
13:25.04MonetI'm noticing a patter nwith Kaiju on this site: Several people use them, but only a few - who most of the time seem ot be Godzilla fans - use them like they're scientifically likely.
13:25.35MonetAnd a viable lifeform to use in peace and war
13:26.25OluapPlayerIf you're talking about the Dark Five, they were never supposde to be scientifically viable hur
13:26.53MonetThey're one example, plus they're deemuns so fuk physics
13:29.46MonetAlso one thing I find annoying because i'm a physicist; the idea that all radiation is mutagenic
13:29.59Monetor dangerous to organic life.
13:31.48AdmiralPandamost of it is, in high enough concentrations
13:31.55AdmiralPandanot necessarily mutagenic, but certainly dangerous
13:32.28MonetAnything in high enough concentrations is dangerous.
13:32.41AdmiralPandaLike air!
13:33.19MonetBut I'm referring to how the term "radiation" seems to only apply to alpha, beta, UV or gamma radiation.
13:34.11AdmiralPandathat's because most fiction is aimed at a non-scientific background
13:34.17AdmiralPandaaudience*
13:34.30AdmiralPandaso if they get too technical or specific people lose interest
13:34.57AdmiralPandafun fact: did you know NASA shows all new employees the movie Armageddon, and challenges them to spot all the scientific inaccuracies?
13:35.02AdmiralPandathe record is nearly 200
13:36.17MonetThinking about it, I may as well suggest that if you want remotely plausable fiction, don't take too much from Godzilla.
13:36.29MonetIn the wikiverse anyway
13:38.21MonetKaiju may be cool but body structure aside a body that size needs a hell of a lot of food in order ot sustain itself.
13:38.42LawfulInsane?
13:39.03AdmiralPandaI don't understand how that sentence can not make sense
13:39.16LawfulInsaneNo, I lost the plot.
13:39.24AdmiralPandakaiju = scientifically derp
13:39.47MonetI'm going to ignore the idea that a Kaiju is able to stand up without collapsing in on itself once it steps out the water.
13:40.11OluapPlayerYou probably hate the Skrenbor then hur
13:40.27MonetTo make things more egregious, it seems many Kaiju are radioactive, so kilo-for-kilo they're expelling MORE radiation than humans.
13:40.49MonetIn order to maintain core body temp, that means they need even more food.
13:41.44MonetOluapPLayer: I don't mind Skrenbor.
13:43.05MonetI tend to ignore the scientific inaccuracies in ascended/descended beings because their very nature means they can defly the laws of physics.
13:43.28OluapPlayerSkrenbors were not ascended/descended though
13:44.20MonetThing is, Kaiju are a complee U-turn from how modern warfare works. Andn ot just because we're using animals.
13:44.53AdmiralPandaok that point is kinda off the mark Monet
13:45.04AdmiralPandamodern warfare is about securing objectives with minimal loss of life
13:45.11AdmiralPandathe Kaiju in Pacific Rim were exterminators
13:45.21AdmiralPandafurthermore, they're expendable
13:45.30AdmiralPandaso of course they're a u-turn from modern warfarre
13:45.30MonetI'm talking about an advanced civ using Kaiju for conquest.
13:45.37AdmiralPandayeah, so am I
13:45.50AdmiralPandanaturally they function very differently to how we do it
13:45.53AdmiralPandatheir goals are different
13:46.24MonetI'm not talking about the Kaiju specifically from Pacific Rim
13:46.40MonetI'm talking about Kaiju in general media
13:47.15AdmiralPandamy point still stands
13:47.25AdmiralPandayou don't see Kaiju built for precision operations with minimal intended casualties
13:47.40MonetExactly
13:48.00AdmiralPandaso you're just running around your own point
13:48.01MonetSp why would a civ bent on occupation use them?
13:53.54MonetThe funny thing is, Japan is more in tune with radiation effects than the West.
13:54.59AdmiralPandanot really surprising, given events
13:55.34MonetProbably because the West dropped two nukes on them, but...Godzilla's the only real piece of media where they go crazy with radiation is Godzilla.
13:55.45Monet(minus the redundancy)
13:56.20MonetThe west was still treating radiation like new-age magic until the 1970s.
13:57.24MonetWhat stopped tthem? Cold War probably.
13:57.58MonetSeriously, does it have to take a catastrophe to correct massive misconceptions with anything?
13:58.29AKtheKingIt definitely seems like it
13:59.39AdmiralPandabasically
13:59.44AdmiralPandanobody cares until it kills someone
14:00.43MonetStoopid humans
14:01.13AKtheKingIs the Fantasy Universe active?
14:01.31Xho_AwayDammit Hachi where are you
14:01.33OluapPlayerA bit yes
14:02.18AKtheKingI just never see it mentioned
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14:04.21HichiHai
14:04.26OluapPlayerAnd speaking of ghey
14:04.29OluapPlayerhai u
14:05.05AdmiralPandahai buni
14:05.30MonetOluap's gonna kill me but I need to leave the house for an hour
14:05.31OluapPlayerrp nao
14:05.34OluapPlayerasdfwer
14:05.42AdmiralPandalel
14:06.56MonetOkay so what's it going to take to show aileron rolls don't work in space?
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14:07.35AdmiralPandathat's never going to happen :P
14:07.47XhoNow that you said that I'm wondering how it works as well
14:07.49XhoIt wouldn't hur
14:08.26XhoUnless propulsion systems can work to perform aileron rolls
14:08.34MonetYou can spin your spacecraft sure, but the thing about space is you can have your ship pointing to the North Star and STILL be travelling away from Earth at 20,000km/h.
14:08.36HichiNeeds more barrel rolls
14:08.53Monetwell let me rephtase
14:09.09AdmiralPandaI never even understood what use an aileron roll was
14:09.13AdmiralPandaused for*
14:09.25Monetthe thing about space is you can have your ship pointing at the Sun and STILL be travelling away from Earth towards Jupiter at 20,000km/h.
14:10.13MonetAdmiralPanda: Basically you spin your craft to pan really sharply to avoid incoming bullets/missiles
14:11.46ImperiosHi Hichi
14:11.50MonetWell, that's it use in stories however
14:12.15HichiWell Sporewiki runs on anime logic so
14:12.33ImperiosYeah pretty much
14:12.45MonetActually yeah...why has no ship so far chased another ship while flying broad-side-forwards?
14:12.47ImperiosSporeWiki would be adapted into an anime seamlessly
14:13.03MonetIn space it would totally work
14:13.47Imperiosfuck aerodynamics
14:13.55AdmiralPandaMonet: welcome to fighting the Necrons
14:14.10AdmiralPandathat said, one of the big factors is thrust
14:14.30AdmiralPandausually ships have engines mounted on the back, so it's hard to make them go bolt sideways really fast unless you turn the entire ship about its central axis
14:14.38AdmiralPandawhich has its own list of hazards
14:14.51MonetAdmiralPanda: Yeah but you don't need your engines on constantly.
14:14.56AdmiralPandaso while it would totally work, it also totally won't because it's a really hard position to get into
14:15.17AdmiralPandaok, let me explain a little better
14:15.24AdmiralPandayou'd have to get up to speed with your engines
14:15.31AdmiralPandathen use directional engines on the side to turn the shi[
14:15.37AdmiralPandadoing so without ripping it apart with g forces
14:16.01MonetThe moon is about 2 million kilometres away, thing is, 80-90% of the fuel in Apollo 11 was used to get it into orbit
14:16.11AdmiralPandaagain, not the point
14:16.42AdmiralPanda[00:14] <AdmiralPanda> that said, one of the big factors is thrust  < this line was worded horribly and should be disregarded
14:17.00MonetOkay...it would work alrght so long as A and B had matching velocities and B didn't decide to fire its engines
14:17.29AdmiralPandaassuming you could safely turn the ship 90 degrees without the other ship ramming into you, ye
14:17.30AdmiralPandayes*
14:18.10AdmiralPandamy real point is you're risking ripping your ship in half to perform the maneuvre
14:18.15MonetWell...how would you? You're travelling at the same velocity and there's a very high chance he's at least 20km away.
14:18.38AdmiralPandaok completely disregard everything before
14:18.43AdmiralPandalisten only to this
14:18.53AdmiralPandayou need to actually turn the ship in order to point your broadside at the target
14:19.01MonetOkay, I get that.
14:19.04AdmiralPandayou need to do so using only directional engines
14:19.22AdmiralPandaso unless you're really good at your job, you're risking tearing your ship apart to do it
14:19.46AdmiralPandayou then are firing your broadside at the target, but now you've borked your maneuvring options
14:20.11MonetSo...does that factor in having directional engines on the fore and aft of the ship?
14:20.28AdmiralPandayes, naturally
14:20.56AdmiralPandabut you have to balance the thrust on either side so that different mass sections of the ship are moving at the same speeds
14:21.23AdmiralPandaif there's even one mil difference, over one kilometre everything in the ship has shifted by a whole metre
14:21.35MonetThe point I was making about Apollo 11 is that in space, you only need thrusters to accellerate. Most of the trip to the moon Apollo had the fuel consumption of a rock minus life suppport power requirements.
14:21.48AdmiralPandaapollo 11 is the size of a bus
14:21.53AdmiralPandaa warship is much bigger than that
14:22.29AdmiralPandathe point I'm trying to get across is you're risking ripping your ship apart
14:22.35AdmiralPandait's got nothing to do with power
14:23.37MonetAlright, I get it now. Performing a 90 degree turn with a kilometre-long starship will create a lot of g-forces
14:23.45MonetAnd stress on the hull
14:24.06AdmiralPandaprecisely
14:25.00AdmiralPandaso while theoretically you most certainly could be flying away from someone while still firing your broadside at them, it's incredibly risky to get into the position to be able to do that
14:25.23MonetI sorta moved on to mentioing that in terms of average fuel consumption, a trip between earth and Mars is VERY economical compared to a palne ride from London to New York mainly because for only a few days of the 6-month journey are you actually burning any fuel.
14:25.26AdmiralPandahm, I need to use mils in a fiction some time
14:25.59AdmiralPandasuch a fun unit of measurement that is
14:26.10MonetWheras a plane in Earths atmosphere is burning fuel constantly so it doesnt fall out of the sky.
14:26.53Monetreal life is so much more brilliant than mainstream science fiction sometimes.
14:28.02WormyThe real world is a source of inspiration
14:28.50Hichiohgod spartian saw the Station Halcyon blog
14:29.30AdmiralPandaruuuuun
14:29.39MonetHere's a mindscrew: In order to keep the ISS in orbit, astronauts have to account for the gravitational fields of not only the Earth, but also the Moon and the Sun and the effects of the solar wind.
14:29.43AdmiralPandabut srs, let's hope we have no tobiaswolf incidents
14:30.06AdmiralPandalike an insect knocking out a Fordanta with a punch to the guy
14:30.10AdmiralPandagut*
14:30.53Hichi*ahem* Grimbolsaurian Warlord
14:31.07MonetThe mindscrew bit for me is that despite the moon being 2 million kilometres away and the sun being 150km away, they prevent the ISS from having an eternal orbit simply by being there.
14:31.30AdmiralPandaHichi: I'm talking about Tobiaswolf's character Samedi
14:31.36Hichirite
14:31.49AdmiralPandawho was somehow able to floor a Fordanta with one punch to the gut
14:32.00MonetHo big was Samedi?
14:32.14AdmiralPandacan't remember, but no bigger than half the size of the Fordanta
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14:32.41MonetSo basically 5ft?
14:32.46AdmiralPandaor shorter, yeah
14:33.21MonetTeeny big mann
14:33.52MonetTheians have a potential excuse in that they're all cyborgs, a single one is at least 3x stronger than a human.
14:34.26MonetAnd they average between 1.5-1.7m
14:36.52MonetHmm, maybe interplanetary colonisation will one day put to rest the whole "spaceflight is like playing the high seas only with planets instead of islands"
14:37.03Monetplying*
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14:37.14OfficerJackalHello!
14:45.16Imperios2OluapPlayer: Have you played IHNMAIMS yet?
14:45.45OluapPlayerNo
14:45.59Imperios2Ah
14:46.02Imperios2A pity
14:46.30Imperios2I'm about half done right n9w
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15:13.49Hichirite bak
15:13.50HichiHad to restart
15:15.59OluapPlayerHichi: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/630/950/24d.jpg
15:16.38Hichiolol
15:17.03OluapPlayerngh
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15:17.10Hachi_Right, should be working now
15:17.16Hachi_Somebody send me a link to somethin
15:17.37OluapPlayerhttp://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/ hur
15:17.53Hachi_Right, it's working
15:18.03Hachi_My IRC was refusing to open tabs to show the links
15:25.40ImperiosApparently the president of South Africa has 20 children
15:26.35AKtheKingJeez
15:28.40AdmiralPandaHel' - Noob
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15:54.14OluapPlayerneeds more Xho and Imp in here
15:55.22MonetThere should be a drinking game about debates over religion and science in YouTube comments.
15:57.12MonetFind a religious comment? take a sip, find an entry of evangelism, take a shot, find a flame war? Finish your glass.
15:58.46MonetTake a bonus shot if the video itself is on a science video, take two bonus sips if the flame war is over a music video.
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15:58.57Zmr56Hi there
15:59.01Monetis on a music video*
15:59.22MonetHi
15:59.42MonetActually...maybe such a drinking game is a bad idea, you'd be in hopsital with alcohol posioning before too long
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16:00.07CatfaceHello.
16:00.35Zmr56Hi
16:01.37CatfaceMonet: Can I ask you your opinion on a fiction related matter?
16:01.53MonetWhat is it?
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16:12.13AvillanHey
16:13.08AvillanAnyone else on?
16:13.15CatfaceNo.
16:13.25CatfaceNobody here but us ghost.
16:13.35WormyI'll be gone for the week soon
16:13.52AvillanHow come Wormy?
16:19.13AvillanWell, I have to go now. real life stuff.
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16:30.14Patriot868hello
16:31.50Wormybye
16:38.39CatfaceHachi_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U85CXYJg2lc
16:43.24Hachi_So apparently we're gonna have a major storm soon
16:43.37Hachi_So if I'm inactive later, the power's gone out
16:43.46OluapPlayerdam
16:46.09CatfaceI just to invoke the devil during storms.
16:46.24CatfaceAlso, I really should make a fiction based on GWAR.
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16:53.46CyrannianHello!
16:53.52Cyrannian~tickle OluapPlayer
16:53.52infobotACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!"
16:54.46OluapPlayer~punish Cyrannian
16:54.46infobotACTION forces Cyrannian to install and use Windows
16:55.03CatfaceCyrannian: Tul reading a bedtime story to children. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U85CXYJg2lc
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17:02.06CyrannianThis idiot connection is starting to piss me off.
17:03.34AK_AwayCyrannian - How often do you and Dinoman write about the Regellis Star Empire?
17:04.07CyrannianI write about them quite often. They are major antagonists in the Mou'Cyran storyarc
17:04.16CyrannianI'll reply to that transmission now by the way
17:04.35AKtheKingHaha, thank you
17:07.06Cyrannianhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/f/f5/Overseer.png - The Xeranbha's big bad
17:07.31OluapPlayerdat head
17:15.02CyrannianAKtheKing: Responded :)
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17:16.53AKtheKingCan I ask what you might be planning for them, or would you rather keep that a secret?
17:18.51MonetOne does not simply...ask about Cyrannian's secret plans.
17:19.06CyrannianExpansion is always the go-word for the Star Empire and they will no doubt be continuing in their growth in Cyrannus. This could lead to plots of political intrigue as the Regellians prefer to infiltrate a potential enemy rather than attack them outright. There is also the possibility for an open conflict with the New Republic, but I'm still thinking about that
17:20.06AKtheKingAs I read your fiction, I start to picture you as the guy sitting in a chair in a dark room, creating plots and schemes.
17:20.27CyrannianThat isn't far from the truth actually
17:20.35AKtheKingEspecially after I read about Antediluvian yesterday
17:21.03AKtheKingBy the way, I love what you're written about him so far
17:21.24CyrannianThank you! That's very kind! Your fiction is also becoming one of my favourites
17:22.08AKtheKingHe reminds of the Emperor, but also less obviously the Didact from Halo
17:22.41AKtheKingAnd Monet, that drawing of Antediluvian is amazing
17:23.09CyrannianThose are his two primary influences, as well as a bit of Sauron
17:23.14MonetThank you, I like to keep my drawing skills in shape.
17:23.22CyrannianAnd me when I'm feeling particularly devious
17:23.50AKtheKinghaha
17:24.40AKtheKingIn the fiction universe, are godraces actually gods, or just so technologically advanced that they appear like gods?
17:24.58AKtheKingIt seems like some one and some are the other
17:25.02CyrannianIt depends on the god, I suppose
17:25.04OluapPlayerThat is correct
17:25.30AKtheKingHow about the Oikoumene?
17:26.04CyrannianThe Oikoumene aren't gods, but many races that they influenced in the past believe that they are.
17:26.06MonetIf their name contains an inverted comma, fair chance they're an Esential
17:26.21AKtheKingInverted comma?
17:26.26OluapPlayerOikoumene fall under "so technologically advanced that they appear like gods"
17:26.36Monet' this thing
17:26.49AKtheKingAn apostrophe?
17:27.26MonetThe exceptions ot this rule are the Isio/Mali'nar and Vidra'rra, who bridge the gap between essentials and ultraterrerstrials imo
17:27.56AKtheKingAnd what are Essentials?
17:28.06Hachi_People like Tyraz
17:28.16OluapPlayerCreatures made of Essence
17:28.41Hachi_I thought Essentials was the general term for Essence-users?
17:28.51OluapPlayerNope
17:28.57OluapPlayerEssentials = essence god races
17:28.58Hachi_dum
17:29.32AKtheKingSo essence is some kind of energy?
17:29.40OluapPlayerIt's more or less magic
17:29.53Hachi_Well
17:29.53AKtheKingoh
17:29.56Hachi_Not really magic
17:30.07Hachi_But that's the basic way of explaining it
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17:30.27CyrannianHello dino!
17:30.42Hachi_Essence usually revolve around one's inner energies, like chi, although Essence is pretty varied
17:30.59dinohellow
17:31.08MonetI created an article that attempted to deconstruct essence.
17:31.54MonetMy theory is that soldifigied essence like entropic fireballs is merely matter that has been affected by essence.
17:32.26MonetIt's still a fireball, its just the atoms do something else alongside what fire normally does.
17:33.17AKtheKingHow common are Essence-users?
17:33.23Monethttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PureEnergy I blame the existence of this trope.
17:33.41OluapPlayerThere's a lot of named essence-users
17:33.56OluapPlayerBut comparing to the population of entire empires, they are rare
17:34.30MonetElemental energy can, in theory, be learned and harnessed by anyone, who is able to control it is a matter of willpower.
17:35.07Hachi_Nearly all creatures in the Gigaquadrant have some degree of Essence potential, although the comparison between those who can actually harness and use it to those who can't is pretty one-sided
17:35.28Hachi_But yeah, nearly anybody can master it
17:35.40AKtheKingAnd can you explain Descension?
17:36.01AKtheKingIs that like going evil-Super Saiyan?
17:36.05OluapPlayerDo you descension as in Descension Energy or as in state of being
17:36.07Hachi_Well, sorta
17:36.11OluapPlayerRight you mean state of being
17:36.13OluapPlayerYeah pretty much
17:36.36Hachi_Yeah, Descension as a state is pretty much evil Super Saiyan
17:36.36AKtheKingIs Descension caused by Descension Energy?
17:36.39Hachi_Yes
17:36.44AKtheKingmakes sense
17:36.59OluapPlayerDescension Energy is only one of several essences which can descend
17:37.08Hachi_Yeah
17:37.16OluapPlayerDescension Energy, Demonic Energy, Entropic Energy and Chaos Energy all can descend
17:37.16AKtheKingIs Descension a permanent state?
17:37.22Hachi_Well
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17:37.27Cyranniandum connection
17:37.31Hachi_It really depends
17:37.33OluapPlayerYou can remove it but until you do, it's permanent
17:37.46Hachi_A Demon Form is not permanent, but Descension is
17:38.20OluapPlayerHachi_ and his silly essence having the same name as the state of being
17:38.27AKtheKingAnd I'm assuming Ascencion is the opposite
17:38.29OluapPlayerIdunno which came first so I can't really comment though
17:38.32OluapPlayerYes
17:38.33AKtheKing*Ascension
17:38.47AKtheKingIs there an Ascension Energy?
17:38.51MonetNo
17:38.58Hachi_We usually consider that Elemental energy
17:39.12OluapPlayerYeah, Elemental and Descension Energies are more or less opposites
17:39.18MonetAlthough I think Hachi's slightly changing Descension since Zazane call it "Sin"
17:39.28AKtheKingCan someone Descend and Ascend?
17:39.30MonetActually Elemental can be both
17:39.30Hachi_Well the actual term for the Descension as a state of being is Manifestation
17:39.33OluapPlayerNope
17:39.43Monetduality.wav
17:39.46Hachi_AKtheKing: I only know one person who can
17:39.51Hachi_That being Kithworto
17:40.19Hachi_Although at the same time, no
17:40.25OluapPlayerKithworto is Dark Ascended
17:40.31OluapPlayerThat's a different kind of Ascension
17:40.38Hachi_fuk
17:40.43AKtheKingjeez
17:40.51AKtheKinga bit complicated
17:41.05CyrannianYeah, I'm realising how complicated it actually is.
17:41.06Hachi_It can be quite complicated
17:41.31MonetOkay i'll try and simplify
17:42.33MonetWhen you asceind as an EE user your mindset determines how you turn out. Light-ascendeds focus on the positives and seem more "good", dark ascendeds focus on the negative
17:42.51AKtheKingok
17:43.21MonetAlthough I theorise there's a third, more difficult state to ascend to.
17:43.26AKtheKingCan you Light Descend?
17:43.40OluapPlayerNot as far as it's known
17:43.55MonetThe third is basically light and dark combined, eliminating the concept of duality.
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17:44.07OluapPlayerspu
17:44.38AKtheKingHow many essences are there?
17:44.40MonetThis "neutral ascended" is very hard to do because those who try it balance between equal levels of light and dark.
17:44.52OluapPlayerA couple
17:45.05OluapPlayerElemental, Dream, Descension, Entropic, Demonic, Life, Death, Chaos
17:46.33Xhodat moar dan a couple
17:46.44OluapPlayerur a couple
17:47.42MonetYou have dualities: Life-death, dream-entropic, elemntal and chaos are on their own because Elemental is both positive and negative and chaos is the same but form the fabric of reality.
17:48.27MonetAnd I just realised that Chaos, Life and Death energies are simply juiced-up versioons of Elemental, Dream and Entropic energy respectively.
17:48.45XhoChaos - mushrooms.wav
17:49.17MonetWhich, as Cyrannian implied, makes things complicated.
17:49.40MonetWe basically have two versions of positive, negative and duality.
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17:49.46Monetenergy
17:49.56MonetHi
17:50.19MonetAll of which sould fit into Elemental Energy quite easily :)
17:50.28AKtheKingI just read the Essence page, and it included the following: Shock Energy, Mystic Energy, Elemental Energy, Chaos Energy, Four Synthetic Essenses, Mana Energy, Demonic Energy, Death Energy, Entropic Energy, Descension Energy, Dream Energy, Psionic Energy, Pharia Energy, and Dark Energy
17:50.38MonetWell...except for the whole "mutation" thing that tends to happen
17:50.52AKtheKingBut it said that some of those fit under the same one
17:51.39OluapPlayerThat page is outdated
17:51.49XhoRight
17:51.51AKtheKingOh, okay
17:51.52XhoNeeds things to do
17:51.54CyrannianShock energy? Who made that?
17:51.59XhoRichardson did
17:52.01MonetElemental and Chaos as concepts could combine if it weren't for Xho's rule of "chaos is so uperpowerful mortals explode trying to use it"
17:52.09OluapPlayerShock Energy, Mystic Energy, Four Synthetic Essenses and Mana Energy never have appeared in canon as far as I'm aware
17:52.24XhoMonet: Not just mortals hur
17:52.29Hachi_Shock Energy appeared once as far as I am aware
17:52.34OluapPlayerPharia Energy is Psionic Energy which really exists but I forgot to mention
17:53.16Monet...maybe we need to streamline all the available forms of Essence.
17:53.21OluapPlayerPsionic is supposed to be Demonic's opposite afaik
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17:54.49Cyrannian_My reaction right now: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_len5wf1KcY1qdlkgg.gif
17:55.06MonetBTW where did this craze of making so many different Essences come from?
17:55.17XhoNot quite sure
17:55.19Cyrannian_The mad Essence craze of 2010 I believe
17:55.26OluapPlayerIt's always been like this since I joined the wikiverse
17:55.27XhoIt originated with Demonic and Psionic
17:55.29XhoAnd then boom
17:55.53Cyrannian_I'm pretty sure it happened at the same time as the Civil War craze.
17:55.58OluapPlayerAnd it's not really a craze considering no new Essences have been made since Death showed up
17:56.20Xhodooth
17:56.24XhoDooth Onorgo
17:56.25OluapPlayerdiith inirgi
17:56.29MonetFad then
17:56.39Cyrannian_It was a craze in 2010 when seemingly everyone wanted to make one.
17:56.40OluapPlayerCan we finish Forgotten Lands now?
17:58.01OluapPlayer~poke Xho Monet Hachi_
17:58.01infobotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Xho Monet Hachi_, pokes Xho Monet Hachi_ repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
17:58.08Hachi_Yeah sure
17:58.09MonetI could
17:58.48OluapPlayerXho u dum
17:58.50Xho#ForgottenLandsStoof then
17:59.13MonetSo because of this fad most essences we have posess an alternate version that could be the same
17:59.34MonetThing is damn this will be a lot of retcon
17:59.49OluapPlayerI'm not changing jack hur
18:00.22MonetU lazi
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18:00.52OluapPlayerdumsaurus
18:01.13Technobliteratorya dad
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18:05.14OluapPlayerhi
18:06.58ImperiosYou wanted to RP, didn't you?
18:07.41Xho#ForgottenLandsStoof get in dere den
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18:27.35Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:D%27anna http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Tai%27Rex http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Overseer http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Gaius_Prentus - My project for the week.
18:28.13MonetOtsa characters
18:28.53OluapPlayermaney chars
18:29.17dinooh nice characters
18:29.19Hachi_Need to see more of D'anna and Tai'Rex
18:37.54dinowow what wrong with the wiki?
18:38.16Hachi_How'd you mean?
18:42.28Tek0516~test
18:42.28infobottest is probably not funny
18:43.42OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhh-J21rEyQ&feature=player_embedded Literally the best thing I've seen all day
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18:59.48Imperios_Hachi_: Hm
18:59.51Imperios_I have just realised
18:59.56Hachi_wut
19:00.00Imperios_The Russian metaphorical term for rabbits and hares is
19:00.07Imperios_"the squinty-eyed one"
19:00.13Hachi_ohgod
19:00.15Hachi_OHGOD
19:00.21Imperios_...suddenly it all makes sense
19:00.30XhoMan the Russians hate asians hur
19:01.03Imperios_Hur
19:05.07Imperios_It makes sense in SporeWiki cos Hachi hur
19:05.52Hachi_olol
19:05.58Hachi_Hachi is both a rabbit and Asian
19:06.56Hachi_OluapPlayer: That reload animation made me laugh
19:07.07Xhodem fancy reloads
19:07.09OluapPlayerhur
19:07.09Imperios_http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Korea-gat-01.jpg Speaking of Asians
19:07.10Imperios_Dat hat
19:07.15Imperios_I want it
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19:08.41Hachi_Whoa watch out guys, dino's angry
19:08.50Hachi_Dunt wanna see dino when he's angry
19:11.39dino_non ont angry yet, dissapointed in the irc connection :D
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19:45.15dino_o have to leave
19:45.17dino_bye all till next time
19:45.18dino_bye
19:56.25AKtheKingCompared to the average nation, how big is a half-a-mile-long ship?
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19:56.53OfficerJackalHello!
19:57.03AKtheKingI mean, compared to the average nation's battleship/cruiser/destroyer
19:57.31Tek0516Hi
19:57.50MonetWell, here's HMS Belfast http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Hms_belfast.jpg
19:57.53Monet187m
19:58.03Monethald a mile if i recall is about 800m right?
19:58.30Tek0516Roughly.
19:58.52AKtheKingSorry, I mean a spaceship
19:58.53Tek0516I use a 3mile:5km ratio for estimates.
19:58.56AKtheKingstar destroyer
19:59.12MonetI know what you meant
19:59.44Monet800m is roughly 4-and-a-bit HMS Belfasts and to end, and Belfast is a destroyer
20:01.23AKtheKingthank you
20:02.06Monet800m is a cruiser by DI standards
20:03.46AKtheKingI'm trying to scale the largest Aekite Union Ships based on how small the AU is and hard it was to make massive spacecraft before they joined the Seven Starr Alliance
20:04.21AKtheKing*how hard
20:04.31MonetSo this 800m long ship is a prototype?
20:05.48AKtheKingNo, it's the largest type of ship before the Union was exposed to other empires
20:06.02AKtheKingBut then the prototypes will start
20:06.26Hachi_https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1378673_352385078238272_285641514_n.jpg
20:06.31Tek0516Hm... perhaps I should decrease my ship sizes a bit.
20:06.41AKtheKingWould 800m too big for an interstellar nation?
20:07.18Hachi_https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1380225_529344950496230_252859529_n.png Ohgod my sides
20:10.13MonetI'm not sure if modern tech can build mear-kilometre long starships
20:12.28AKtheKingI'm going to assume probably not.
20:13.26MonetWe might be able to if nanmaterials take off
20:13.30AngrybirdsKatar Sector Alliance vs. the Grand Tarkan Empire: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/7/79/Battle_of_Heleni_move_1.png
20:14.27MonetCurbstomp much?
20:14.45AngrybirdsA little :(
20:14.52Tek0516And this is what's left of the Katatian navy now.
20:15.01Angrybirds27,000 ships vs. 27,000 sips
20:15.03Angrybirdsships*
20:15.18Tek0516If this fleet falls the Tarkans are free to conquer half the sector.
20:15.42MonetLooks like a possible phyrric victory to me.
20:15.58Hachi_I like how the Katar sector has become its own important place
20:16.03MonetIf the Tarkens beat that they're not coming away with casualties.
20:16.23Angrybirds^ Depends on how Tekari plays his cards.
20:16.31Tek0516The problem is less the numbers than the ship types
20:16.51AngrybirdsAnd the way Tekari deployed.
20:17.06Tek0516Yeah, I screwed that up.
20:17.50Tek0516Tekari has more than one trick up his sleeve though.
20:17.51AngrybirdsThe Tarkans have a tradition when two navies meet in pitched battle. They rush at one another with predetermined formations and blindly deploy opposite one another.
20:18.21AngrybirdsTekari decided to play along with that, and chose the EXACT formation Etzan's deployment was made to counter.
20:18.51AngrybirdsSo a bit of bad luck there.
20:21.25AngrybirdsAlright Tek, posted. You're up.
20:21.36AngrybirdsIf anyone wants to follow the battle, it's raging on the Katar forum. ^.^
20:24.26MonetI think we're going to need a genius to properly format what orbital battles would really look like
20:25.16Monetthree dimensions, orbital mechanics, hohman transfer orbits, pursuit orbits...seems confusing as hell to work in unison
20:25.16Tek0516I'm trying to at least use some fancy physics in my turn.
20:26.10MonetFrom my experience of KSP, if you want to catch up to your opponent, after a great distance, the best way to do it is by decelerating.
20:26.15Tek0516^
20:26.42MonetSounds wierd I know.
20:27.12Monet"Captain they're getting away!" "very well, fire reverse thrusters" "aye sur"
20:27.21AngrybirdsLol what?
20:27.28Tek0516Physics can sometimes be counterintuitive at first.
20:27.59Angrybirds*looks at special relativity* Tell me about it.
20:28.42MonetWell let me try an explain. by decelerating you reduce your minimum orbit altitude, by burning at this minimum height to circularise your orbit, you are able to orbit the parent body faster due to having a smaller orbit path.
20:28.53Tek0516^
20:29.27AngrybirdsThat makes sense!
20:29.31MonetAfter a while, you will gradually catch up to your opponent because he's in a bigger and thus slower orbit
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20:30.24MonetAt the right point you fire your thrusters to increase your orbit for an intercept course.
20:31.50Angrybirds*wonders how he could put that on a map...*
20:32.07AngrybirdsSpace, why must you be three dimensional?
20:32.08MonetSo maybe orbital battles are not going to be massive fleet actions in one spot, but instead they would be clusters of isolated hotspots around the planet's orbital space
20:32.40AngrybirdsSeems to me like it would end in a massive dogpile at one point.
20:33.02MonetWhat's also fun is if you decelerate for long enough you'll begin ACCelerating
20:33.03Tek0516Well the problem with a single orbital fleet is the enemy's ability to arrive somewhere else or simply manuever around it.
20:33.46AngrybirdsBut if you spread yourself too thinly, a massive orbital fleet could just crash its way through every single little fleet you throw at it.
20:34.58MonetOrbital battles will be mainly about coverage
20:35.18MonetThing is since space is so big you're going ot need hundreds of ships for even minimal coverage.
20:35.33Angrybirds^
20:35.57MonetOne possible answer: Defence sattellites.
20:36.25MonetWe may have signed our death warrants with this "no weaponising of space" international law.
20:36.38Tek0516I think this battle might be more interplanetary space though.
20:36.55Tek0516Or at least high orbit
20:36.55AngrybirdsOr interstellar.
20:37.08AngrybirdsWait, you mean Heleni?
20:37.15AngrybirdsI was thinking it was in open space.
20:37.16MonetInterplanetary/interstellar space it becomes different.
20:41.06Tek0516We also have the possibility for near-c attack vectors.
20:41.39Tek0516Well, maybe not near c but still fast.
20:42.11AngrybirdsThough you'd need space to accelerate for that.
20:42.22Tek0516I'd ran energy numbers for even .75c
20:42.41AngrybirdsTekari barely has any room to maneuver, much less accelerate to near c.
20:42.58MonetWhat distances are we talking?
20:43.41AngrybirdsPretty close, each block represents 500 ships
20:45.07Tek0516That'd require some notable distances still unless ships were to come into physical contact
20:45.52Tek0516Depending on ship sizes.
20:46.19AngrybirdsI was thinking that my front and those two contingents striking at your rear would enter melee and basically wreak havok.
20:46.47AngrybirdsSorry*
20:46.54AngrybirdsThose two contingents off to my flanks
20:47.05Tek0516Well Tekari would have hit reverse long ago.
20:47.22Angrybirds^
20:47.52Tek0516And then potentially pulling off some tricks.
20:48.35AngrybirdsWould it be safe to say, though, that the Tarkans would be accelerating faster since they're moving forward with their main thrusters while the KSA is accelerating backwards with secondary thrusters?
20:50.46Tek0516True.
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20:52.29Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Andromeda_Campaign#Pleasure_in_Pain guess who!
20:52.56Hachi_https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/947289_583848708331581_1540839924_n.jpg
20:53.45Angrybirdso.o
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20:59.10Tek0516~test
20:59.10infobottest is probably not funny
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21:04.10Hachi_So I'm making the Lagosi in the Fantasyverse inspired by Japanese-Inuit cultures
21:04.28XhoYou mean the Ainu right
21:04.48Hachi_No, Inuit
21:05.00Hachi_Well, partially Inuit anyway
21:05.12Xhohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people
21:05.38Hachi_i kno hoo dese r
21:06.20MonetI might getmyslef a rink then work on the next part of Invictus Falls
21:06.24Monetdrink
21:06.36MonetHow is it so far btw?
21:07.32Hachi_Lemme have a look
21:09.14Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Andromeda_Campaign#Pleasure_in_Pain
21:09.43Hachi_Xho: Well in truth most indigenous American cultures are actually pretty comparable to Asian ones since Native Americans actually stem directly from Asia
21:11.14OluapPlayerXho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ozPGRoBRqc Kuga just uploaded this
21:11.22XhoI know he linked me it hur
21:11.56MonetI remember hearing from Michio Kaku that the characteristic eyes of Asian and First Nation cultures is an evolutionary trait to the cold weather of central Asia
21:12.42MonetNot quite sure but I think the adaptation offered better protection during snowstorms
21:13.02Hachi_Monet: Man, seeing Uriel get beat down was brutal
21:13.08Hachi_He has a thing about losing his wings hur
21:14.21MonetWhere hedon has the advantage is Uriel's not in his power armour
21:18.34MonetAs COntraversial as it is , I do love watching Dogma
21:23.05MonetI don't see it as an outright attack on Christian doctrine, it's a fun fil, peronally I think it hits home that modern christianity is a little different in attitude to that of today...might not be best to go there.
21:24.28Hachi_hur
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21:24.50Hachi_I just enjoy the idea of angelic/demonic wars without the religious stuff getting in the way
21:25.12OluapPlayerFog War hur
21:26.19AdmiralPandaI once played an Aasimar (basically half-human half angel) in D&D and I got my kicks by telling all the religions of the world that they were wrong :P
21:26.27XhoXhodocto - ALL OF A SUDDEN, BELIEF *throws religious ideology over Shu*
21:26.40OluapPlayerShu - y i need dis
21:26.48MonetI'm partial to the acting style of Alan Rickman too, i don't know why but I love snarky gits
21:27.46MonetAdmiralPanda: I think it helps that Angels aren't as colsely tied to gods in D&D as in Christianity
21:28.01Monet...I think
21:28.02AdmiralPandaMonet: True
21:28.20AdmiralPandathey're more servants of the good planes than being tied to any specific god
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21:32.01MonetI remember there's a scene in the film where one of the exiled angels uses a parable by Lewis Caroll to claim all religions are false to a nun. When his partner ange acts confuded, the first guy mentions he did it because he liked screwing with the heads of clergymen/women
21:33.03MonetUltimate troll
21:33.30Tek0516Lol
21:34.32OluapPlayerI've watched this movie once
21:34.40OluapPlayerCan't remember much about it though
21:34.52XhoWell
21:34.58XhoAnyone living in the South right now
21:35.03XhoI can say the storm is definitely coming
21:35.10MonetCrap
21:35.21MonetXho you're my Early Warning System
21:35.27Xhohur
21:35.41XhoApparently it's meant to properly hit the south in the early morning though
21:35.43OluapPlayerolol
21:35.56MonetYou're in Hampshire i'm in Kent so whatever hits you hits me about an hour later
21:36.34Hachi_Will it hit Hastings?
21:37.05XhoLikely
21:37.10Hachi_fuk
21:37.16XhoSouthampton is literally going to be in the middle of it
21:37.24Xhodis b karma
21:37.27Xhofor nuthin
21:37.42XhoOn the bright side it's going to be better on Tuesday hur
21:37.56OluapPlayeru gon get wrekd lul
21:38.24XhoBasically this week is going to wreck everyone
21:38.34MonetXho: http://newasiarepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/Middle-Finger-Cloud.jpg
21:38.42XhoBasically a sub-hurricane coming to the UK
21:38.54XhoYep seems about right
21:38.57Hachi_Xho: What would you say is Japanese for "wolf pack"?
21:39.13XhoHm
21:40.52Xho狼の群れ
21:41.00XhoSo 'Wolf Herd'
21:41.08OluapPlayerI read that as "wolf hed"
21:41.14Xhoyus
21:41.47MonetLet's see..favourite Alan Rickman roles. Marvin the Paranoid Android, The Metatron and the alien actor from Galaxy Quest.
21:42.00Hachi_What would be the English typing of that hur
21:42.55XhoOkami no mure
21:43.11XhoMure means 'herd'
21:43.14XhoSo Wolf Herd
21:43.21XhoOkami meaning 'Wolf'
21:49.35Hachi_rite
21:49.53OluapPlayerwoof
21:53.14Monetright, writing time since Uriel looks fucked right now.
21:53.52OluapPlayerUriel - dun even care tho fuk ur shit #yolo #whoneedswings #ohgodthepain
22:05.31Tek0516~test
22:05.31infobotwell, test is not funny
22:13.39Technobliteratordaw where's imperios
22:13.48TechnobliteratorI want to tell him I found a russian band I'm in love with
22:14.45OluapPlayerded
22:15.20Technobliteratory
22:20.22Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Andromeda_Campaign#Pleasure_in_Pain everyone read dat
22:22.23OluapPlayerdang
22:22.40OluapPlayerHedon got his ass handed to him hur
22:24.34OluapPlayerAlso nice to see mention of Draconis poison
22:24.55MonetI have been waiting to try using it.
22:25.16MonetI wonder if this was a double-curbstomp battle.
22:26.42OluapPlayerLots of big fights going on this weekend
22:26.59OluapPlayerArrtkar vs Meketanor, Uriel vs Hedon, and me and Hachi are making another right now hur
22:27.09MonetOh sweet.
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22:56.56MonetHi
22:57.57Aeohi
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23:02.21Tek0516Hey
23:02.26EclipseHeya.
23:05.11EclipseWhats the buzz, Tek? :P
23:05.34Tek0516Nm. Family stuff, mostly
23:06.12Tek0516(The good kind, no deaths on anything)
23:06.16Tek0516*or
23:10.02Hachi_Monet: Bloody hell, Hedon got his ass kicked
23:10.22Hachi_Wonder how deep Uriel must've bit into him though, must have been pretty deep
23:11.04MonetWhat I found creepy is that Hedon being Hedon, that attack was as euphoric as it was painful.
23:11.12Monetfor him
23:12.09OluapPlayerHedon - DIS MAKES MA DIK ROCK HARD *ded*
23:17.15Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Andromeda_Campaign#Dark_But_Undeniable_Truths DA FOR REALZ FINALE
23:17.22MonetALso surpise twist.
23:21.04OluapPlayerThat was pretty cool hur
23:21.50Zmr56I miss GD12
23:22.35Tek0516Yeah.
23:23.11MonetI was writing that in aprt as a tribute.
23:23.34MonetBased on how we agreed for an all-out assault on Invictus and Angrus dying
23:24.47Zmr56Him and his long breakfast
23:25.56OluapPlayerPathogis - dangit hedon u goofd up
23:26.16OluapPlayerTis a shame, me and him never got around in using Pathogis
23:26.27MonetBig shame, yeah
23:26.51MonetI'm conflicted; should Uriel keep his new scar or remove it?
23:26.59Hachi_Keep it
23:27.37OluapPlayerScars are cool hur
23:28.08MonetActually yeah, i'll keep it, it makes him less perfect.
23:28.10AdmiralPandaeveryone knows you should fear the old warrior with no scars, but yeah scars are cool
23:29.25MonetAlso this one's a bit of a meaningful scar; Hedon carved it as a symbol he applied value to.
23:31.34OluapPlayerWragrot - hoh u with ur teeny single scar get on ma level
23:32.15OluapPlayerGo update Uriel and Hedon's pages now hur
23:32.38MonetI can understand Spriggs' comment though. Veteren with no scars = hasn't been hit.
23:32.46MonetOr hurt, rather
23:34.27AdmiralPandaif Avillan comes on, tell him to wait around. I'll be afk for a bit but I need to talk to that guy
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23:36.45OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Clash_of_the_Titans giant anime fite
23:36.47MonetHi
23:38.14OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYByoOKStdU listen to this for maximun effect
23:39.00Hachi_Marco - Second Half
23:40.10OluapPlayerhur
23:40.44Hachi_F5 dat page
23:41.57OluapPlayerwut u don
23:41.59OluapPlayerWUT O DOOOOON
23:42.02OluapPlayerU even
23:42.42Hachi_removed sumthin dat shudn't be dere
23:49.33Hachi_Personally one of my favourite starts to a rivalry right there in that fight hur
23:50.13MonetBest battle so far today.
23:50.26MonetBloody hell is there even a city left?
23:51.05Hachi_Doubt it hur
23:53.58MonetI think that blew my battle out the water.
23:55.11Hachi_Nah yours was pretty neat too :3
23:55.42OluapPlayerUriel vs Hedon was still great
23:56.02OluapPlayerSince it was another example of how Uriel is badass enough to take own a super-powered being and win
23:56.09MonetI'm starting to get the impressio nthat my battles start out as slugfests, then about galfway though the focus is more on the banter.
23:57.13Hachi_Admittedly, I'd like to see Uriel win a battle without his opponent monologuing hur
23:57.23Hachi_But it was still a cool battle
23:57.30Hachi_Considering that a world died right after
23:57.53MonetIf a bad guy starts monologuing, it's a guarenteed death sentence
23:59.04MonetAt least (before the poision), Hedon combined it with smashing Uriel a bit

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