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00:48.00MonetWormy: I see what you mean. Especially the Mordian Iron Guard.
00:49.37Wormyyeah
00:56.19MonetThere used to be an Imperial Guard regiment called the Praetorians
00:56.50MonetDiscontinued but they looked liek the Imperium of Man decided to field Britain's armed froces in india during the 19th century
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01:43.59Tek0516I got tired of the hourly DCing.
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01:49.15Tek0516hello
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03:54.36AvillanHey
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10:44.12Imperioshi
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11:08.11JepardiHi
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12:04.57Wormyhi
12:05.43OluapWorkerhi
12:56.46WormyI think I may have upset him
12:57.17WormyI demanded an explanation why the Lequians highly regard Film Noir
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13:00.45Cyrannianello ello
13:02.03WormyHow do
13:02.53OluapWorker~slap Cyrannian
13:02.53infobotACTION slaps Cyrannian, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
13:03.18Cyrannian~tell OluapWorker that is naughty
13:03.38CyrannianNgh "[14:03] <infobot> No, cyrannian, I won't."
13:03.56OluapWorkerc
13:04.01OluapWorkergo work on Fog War nao
13:04.18CyrannianI haven't finished my college work lul
13:04.43CyrannianArchaeology is not fun.
13:06.35OluapWorkerfuk ur college
13:07.58Wormyy u not study dino_-saws
13:08.22CyrannianI was devastated. Instead I have to study primitive human scum.
13:09.54WormyAncient humans, modern humans, all the same to you
13:11.22Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aekite_Union?s=wl - I like it when new users are like this
13:11.47OluapWorkerYes you said that already with that same link
13:12.32CyrannianI'm pointing it out again. New users are often discriminated against by the more experienced ones and I think we need to change that.
13:13.11WormyWow that is indeed impressive
13:13.26WormyIt is okay to repost something if new users are about later on
13:13.31CyrannianEspecially considering that guy doesn't have Spore yet
13:13.48OluapWorkerWhat a plebian
13:13.53OluapWorkerhhhhhhhhehehe
13:15.24Cyrannianlel
13:30.42CyrannianWormy: http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/281/c/7/size_comparison___science_fiction_spaceships_by_dirkloechel-d6lfgdf.jpg
13:33.13WormyAll puny in comparison to the majesty that beholds the Xeelee
13:33.28WormyRing, 10 million light years wide
13:43.45CyrannianFun fact: In the original version of the GCW I made just before it started, the Empire was formed at the end of the third year in the Outer Rim and the fourth year would have been about the URC and the CAS teaming up to stop it taking over the galaxy (though failing)
13:44.31OluapWorkerI cant imagine a fourth year
13:45.52CyrannianIt would have been interesting, while at the same time, I'm really happy with the war as a whole, even two years after it ended
14:15.40ImperiosCyrannian: So the Basileus were a precursor to it?
14:16.13ImperiosI mean
14:16.18ImperiosLet me rephrase
14:16.19Imperiosthat
14:17.09ImperiosSo the New Basileus Empire was originally planned to be a good direct precursor to the Empire?
14:17.21Imperios* no good
14:17.58CyrannianI think so, yes.
14:42.53ImperiosCyrannian: Speaking of which
14:43.54ImperiosHow was the New Republic going to be founded in your initial plans?
14:50.31CyrannianOriginally it would have been founded a lot later and it would have included Rambo Nation
14:51.47ImperiosAh
14:53.19ImperiosI had A LOT of plans for AW
14:53.37ImperiosOf which only a couple remained which is why its plot is a horrible mess
14:56.41ImperiosLet me count: Vartekians being the main antagonists, the Grox siding with the good guys, the Artifacts turning into a huge AI, Kezoreg being used for powering said AI, time travel to the past in order to find a way to weaken the Artifact AI
14:57.45ImperiosTwo Arkarixus-esque characters from warring empires returning and learning to tolerate each other and then falling in love
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14:59.28OluapWorkerThat's a lot of scrapping
15:00.15ImperiosI reused some of these ideas for TND
15:01.35ImperiosAnd my Tantrum section
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15:07.40OluapWorkerdumba
15:08.28Technobliteratorya dad
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16:11.09OfficerJackalHello!
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16:31.13OluapWorker~kidnap Hachi_
16:31.13infobotACTION drives up in a non-descript white van, jumps out, shoves Hachi_ in the back, and drives off.
16:35.03Hachi_http://www.damnlol.com/i/987c87b112ab5d09e67bd42b292aa4c1.jpg
16:35.28Angrybirds_"hmmm. i guess he should do one thing at a time. Ill contact the clanden to ask if i can join the katar sector." Odere.
16:36.50OluapWorkerHachi_: Hachi and Sarec
16:36.57Hachi_hue
16:43.14Hachi_OluapWorker: http://flubbermuffins.deviantart.com/art/romantic-lunch-with-my-husband-401392426
16:44.04Hachi_http://flubbermuffins.deviantart.com/art/romantic-dinner-with-my-husband-406743216 Part 2
16:48.43Hachi_http://www.damnlol.com/i/63887d34dab916e09cea1b4c314a481b.jpg
16:54.27OluapWorkerHachi_: So we have found Petra's DA
16:55.41ImperiosBack
16:55.51ImperiosHai Hachi
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17:02.48ImperiosOluapWorker and Hachi_: Hm
17:03.12ImperiosWould Radeons count as Green Skinned Alien Babes?
17:03.24OluapWorker<PROTECTED>
17:04.13OluapWorkerWell I don't think so
17:04.54OluapWorkerI guess it depends if other races find them attractive
17:07.08ImperiosArtharons and probably Zazane, humans if Hachi counts
17:07.56OluapWorkerArtharons do? ech
17:09.33ImperiosWait
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17:10.59OluapWorkerhello
17:11.30MonetHi
17:11.59ImperiosHi
17:12.18ImperiosMonet: Can Radeons count as green skinned alien babes?
17:12.25ImperiosAs in, the trope
17:14.37MonetOne sec
17:19.29MonetSince they're basically mouse-faced alien humans i'd say so
17:19.48MonetIf you're adding to the tropes mention Theian women as well
17:20.27OluapWorkerHachi_: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/628/009/39c.png Welcome to my world
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17:32.33Imperios_Alright guys
17:32.40Imperios_Does anybody want to work on TND?
17:35.43MonetI'd be interestd
17:36.05Imperios_Come to think 'bout it
17:37.25Imperios_We still need that ship repair section
17:37.36Imperios_Although TBH we could leave it in the background and just move on
17:38.29MonetClimax is comin
17:38.52OluapWorkernasti
17:39.28MonetDirty
17:39.32OluapWorkerhur
17:39.39Imperios_Hur
17:39.41MonetGo scrub your brain with soap
17:41.22Imperios_The real question is
17:41.39Imperios_Who is the... subject of this conversation
17:41.48Imperios_TND shipping time ahoy
17:41.56OluapWorkerTiny x Genoriel OTP
17:45.42Imperios_<PROTECTED>
17:45.47Imperios_#illarion
17:45.51Imperios_Time2climax
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18:10.33Hachi_OluapWorker: Some guy at my college didn't know that Bravest Warriors and Adventure Time were made by the same people and actually criticized Bravest Warriors due to its identical animation style as Adventure Time
18:10.58OluapWorkerthoopid
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18:20.18OluapWorkerHachi_: That guy who was breeding for a Shiny Ralts finally achieved his goal, after 30 PC boxes filled with nothing but Ralts
18:20.30Hachi_Ohgod what
18:22.18OluapWorkerNow, imagine the scene but on a SporeWiki equivalent
18:22.22Imperios_#illarion
18:22.28OluapWorkerBreeding Rovegar with a Pseudomorph to get a blue-haired baby
18:22.30Imperios_So guys
18:22.34Imperios_Wow
18:22.41Imperios_That's so cute that I have to make one
18:22.51OluapWorkerolol
18:23.10MonetHachi_: Imperios wants ot do TND stuff
18:23.41Hachi_Urgh fine
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18:46.56OluapWorkerHachi_: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/627/483/5c2.gif The neigh never ends
18:47.13Hachi_neigh
18:47.41OluapWorkerhttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/627/797/738.gif c
18:48.15OluapWorkerhttp://knowyourmeme.com/memes/espurr ohohohoHOHOH
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19:01.57Imperios_Hachi_: Here's something to cheer you up
19:02.03Imperios_I found some new armour for my GW2 character
19:02.58Imperios_http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/mc64.jpg/ Dere
19:04.18OluapWorkerSilly videogame female armor
19:04.39Imperios_Well it's actuallly one of a kind practically
19:04.54Imperios_Most of the time she's fully clothed and armoured
19:04.58MonetAll it realy protects is the breasts
19:05.06Imperios_That's the point hur
19:05.14MonetAnd the hips
19:05.29Imperios_Well it is available for males too
19:05.32Imperios_And is about as revealing
19:05.39Imperios_So there's no sexism hur
19:05.53Imperios_Male or female, it gives the character a "Conan the Barbarian" look
19:07.39Imperios_Hachi does not respond to tits
19:10.00Hachi_Armoured tits are only really impressive if they're struggling to be held within the armour
19:10.09Hachi_Or are strapped in leather
19:10.23OluapWorkernasti
19:10.38Imperios_Well
19:10.51Imperios_My leather users are a tree and a catgirl
19:11.26Imperios_And that's about how naked you can get as a soldier class
19:11.32Imperios_Now, MAGES
19:11.36Imperios_These are goddamn nudists
19:12.01Imperios_My char is a male rat/rabbit midget thingie
19:12.12MonetTechnically most Sylvari are nudists becuase clothes = part of their body.
19:12.21Imperios_And his armour still leaves like half of his chest naked
19:12.36Imperios_Now if I chose a female human...
19:12.40MonetIf a Sylvari's outfit has leaves, its part of their body
19:13.07OluapWorkerSo technically naked
19:15.48WormyThe physicist, Gerard 't Hooft has written a website on how to become a theoretical physcist without going to uni http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~hooft101/theorist.html
19:17.12Wormy"still young, at School, and before being admitted at a University, you have to endure the childish anecdotes that they call science there?"
19:17.16WormyThats how I felt
19:17.29WormyWhen my teacher tried to say the Earth's inner core was cold
19:18.47OluapWorkerolol
19:21.30Hachi_http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/625354-magikarp Part 1
19:21.31Hachi_http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/625355-magikarp Part 2
19:21.33Hachi_http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/625357-magikarp Part 3
19:22.23OluapWorkerhur
19:22.37OluapWorkerI take you don't share my love for Espurr
19:22.41OluapWorkerWe can't be friends anymore hur
19:31.37OluapWorkerhttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/626/705/e38.png :(
19:32.02Hachi_"Unpopular Oluap"
19:32.12OluapWorkerIt's funny because it's true
19:32.49OluapWorkerYou go silent every time I talk about Espurr
19:33.00OluapWorkerIt's like as if the word acted as a "turn Hachi off" button
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19:34.00OluapWorkerc it works
19:34.10DrodoEmpireHey, everyone.
19:34.17Hachi_I'd be more amused about it if I wasn't feeling sick hur
19:35.39OluapWorkerOh
19:35.46OluapWorkerI didn't know you were sick
19:35.53Hachi_Not your fault
19:35.56Hachi_I have a pretty bad cough at the moment
19:36.09Hachi_its liek a cok jammed in mah froat
19:36.16OluapWorkerhao u kno dis
19:36.26Hachi_ofuk
19:36.50Wormygives Hachi_ a fishhook to take it out
19:36.56OluapWorkerWell if it makes you feel better I'm having a sore throat for 2 weeks now. Eating anything salty makes it burn
19:37.05Hachi_Butbutbut
19:37.09Hachi_salt is <3
19:37.15OluapWorkerI kno
19:37.23OluapWorkerBut it hurts for whatever reason
19:37.24WormyI've been having chest pains and a week ago someone in my uni had a bad cough
19:37.32Hachi_dats just torture
19:38.03WormyOdd, I usually gargle salty water and it is soothing
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19:39.21ImTILDEHey.
19:39.22DrodoEmpireHey
19:40.34Wormyhi
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19:41.57MonetFresher's flue.
19:42.35MonetTry an entire lecture hall of people coughing so hard it sounds like they're about to cough up their lungs.
19:42.52Hachi_I can't stand people coughing
19:42.58Hachi_I think it's disgusting
19:43.26MonetOne of my flatmates is going though similar. His reponse when I question him about it is two words: I'm fine.
19:43.31Hachi_Sneezing, spitting, coughing, anything that involves bodily fluid excretion from the mouth
19:43.39CatfaceHachi_:Good thing you can't hear me right now, then.
19:43.46ImperiosI have a chronic cough hur
19:44.13Hachi_Catface: Now is that coughing or is that growling
19:44.28CatfaceBoth.
19:44.41CatfacePhlegm growling.
19:44.49Hachi_ech
19:45.19WormyMonet:  I hated going on the train everyday to university with people coughing and sneezing, especially this time of year
19:46.57Wormydamn this bloke personifies the character everyone wants to punch in the face http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AIUdpZMXq8
19:47.57MonetHe's on Jeremy Kyle. he should be stoned.
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19:49.06Hachi_As should Jeremy Kyle
19:49.31CatfaceWho is that?
19:49.34MonetTie Jerry Springer and Jeremy Kyle to stakes and have them stoned with hot coals.
19:49.44MonetCatface: UK version of Jery Springer
19:50.22CatfaceMonet: So a lowlife?
19:51.09WormyJeremy Kyle show is usually Jeremy Kyle angrily swearing and dictating to how chavs should live
19:51.34Catfacehttp://i.imgur.com/X5m4jGr.jpg
19:51.36WormyHe has new show in the US now where he does the same to rednecks
19:53.32OluapWorkerHachi_: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9775875/1/Espionage someone made a creepypasta about Espurr
19:53.50Hachi_Geezush
19:54.44WormyCatface:  Jeremy Kyle in a nutshell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kwOodiqAYM
19:59.50Angrybirdstest
20:00.50OfficerJackalAngryBirds: Loud and clear!
20:00.56OluapWorkerJust so you know, "J'ai fait quelque chose de mal ce soir" is french for "I have done something wrong tonight"
20:01.23Hachi_Bloody hell
20:02.12OluapWorkerStill gonna pet the shit out of that once I get this game hur
20:03.15OluapWorkerAlso http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/264/b/0/kiriban_prize__attack_on_cookie_clicker_by_godsammit-d6nbcyr.png
20:04.11Hachi_olol
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20:10.07Technobliteratorhii
20:11.16OluapWorkerlosa
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20:15.54Wormyhello
20:16.15Wormyanyone who controls time is surely a winner
20:17.40Technobliteratorlol
20:20.57ImTILDEAnyone up for a joint war RP?
20:29.56MonetWars are a bit of a big thing.
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20:31.42TekDroidHello
20:32.04MonetHi
20:32.28MonetAlso TILDE a new war will need a motive and a provocation.
20:35.04TekDroidNo nation wars without cause. However stupid that cause may be.
20:35.06MonetThe ckicker though: A quick war is a politician's fantasy.
20:35.19Monetkicker*
20:35.55TekDroidWell unless you have a huge tech gap.
20:36.56MonetNot always, look at Ahfganistan
20:37.36TekDroidWell I'm talking SporeWiki tiers gaps.
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20:38.11CyrannianHello!
20:39.09TekDroidHello
20:39.24MonetUnless one side likes exploding planets, gurerella warfare is stil a viable strategy.
20:39.33TekDroidTrue.
20:39.58MonetThat or Exterminatus, but one could wlways save themselves by going deeper
20:43.31MonetAlso marching across a territory lik a wave has somewhat gone out of fashion since the conception of the paratrooper
20:44.09MonetBut on an interstellar scale, one could in theory avoid every star and beeline for an empire's capital
20:44.46TekDroidThat's  what we do for the most part in Katar
20:45.37TekDroidStopping only to engage armadas in realspace (since warp battles are a pain)
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20:46.32Tek0516Did my previous messages go through?
20:46.40Tek0516[16:44] (TekDroid) That's  what we do for the most part in Katar
20:46.45Tek0516[16:45] (TekDroid) Stopping only to engage armadas in realspace (since warp battles are a pain)
20:47.49MonetThere is actually a degree of difficulty with putting stuff in interstellar space
20:47.59Tek0516Yeah.
20:48.11MonetProbability of finding it aside - what's keeping it in that one spot?
20:48.33Tek0516Finding what exactly?
20:49.06MonetWhatever's put there; a beacon, a station for example
20:50.21Tek0516Really even trying to find a large station within a planet's orbit is practically a needle in a haystack.  Or a massive dark room.
20:51.17MonetCorrection: A needle so hot it glows.
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20:52.20OfficerJackalHello!
20:52.30MonetHi
20:52.52Tek0516It's really only those energy signatures that help. But if it's faint or they're attempting to hide it, it's nearly impossible to find.
20:53.18MonetInstallations like the ISS require radiators because heat dissipates much less efficiently in space.
20:53.55MonetSo space battles involve targeting ship signatures, not fire-by-eye.
20:54.29Tek0516Unless you're going by less realistic naval battles in space.
20:55.12MonetIt's what makes the Sunwrath deadly; rather than dump its heat into space, it either recycles it in the hypermatter reactors or flushes it into hyperspace.
20:56.07MonetRather than use thrusters, it uses an albecurre drive to move at sublight velocities
20:59.51WormyOrions Arm has an interesting page on space warfare http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4b3bde6666f25
21:00.24MonetIn fact, it's likely civs as advanced as the DI probably perceive reaction drives in the same way we are gradually percieving the petrol-powered internal combustion engine.
21:02.36Monetit works sure, but it's inefficient, wasteful and above all, crude.
21:02.49Tek0516Definitely.
21:02.51WormyPosthuman era warfare http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4bad5ba9074ce
21:03.45MonetI can summarise the engine as "fuel goes in, gets burned, explosion sends car forward", it's like you're moving by farting.
21:07.29MonetActually, drives like the ion engien would be more accurate
21:07.33Monetfor this analogy.
21:07.57Tek0516Lol
21:09.12MonetThe ion engine fires a thin stream of perticles out the back. Unlike the reaction engine, this propellant isn't burned. So the efect is like sitting on a chair that's resting on a completely frictionless surface while armed with a fire extinguisher
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21:15.52MonetCivs like the DI, Divinarium and DCP may have thought "screw moving by firing stuff out the rears of our ships, let's try something gelse"
21:16.35Tek0516Lol
21:19.52MonetI think i have used this; DI strike craft, as well as skycars, levitate by using a planet's magnetic feild (if it has one) as a medium for travel.
21:20.23MonetAs a result it can hop, strafe without tilting and even fly backwards at the drop of a hat
21:20.35Monetthey can, rather
21:22.34WormySome DCP ships can also move into an extra metric coordinate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_time
21:23.05WormyHow they can and nor ordinary light and matter is an unsolved problem still lol
21:24.37Tek0516Lol
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21:30.58Tek0516Hello Aeo
21:31.04Aeohi
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21:41.16MonetI feel like writing a culture section on what the Imperium likes to call "solar husbandry"
21:41.37MonetIt's like stellar husbandry, but normally applies to an entire star system.
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21:58.52Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Battle_over_Nexios - c
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22:07.36Liquid_InkDon't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructrd...
22:18.48Cyranniannightie night
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22:22.49TybusenI'm liking this new Aekite Union fiction. It's very well-written for a relatively new user
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22:25.37WormyI hope this isn't boring but I want to do a few of these http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Stuff/Essays
22:30.55MonetI'd be interested
22:31.23WormyI'm currently writing one up on the various models for the Multiverse
22:33.27WormyAlso some critical views
22:34.06Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Society#Solar_Husbandry I feel like I waffled for half of it but here's what I was suggesting earlier
22:37.13WormySolar system optimisation and planning
22:37.51WormyI think I might open a blog about Station Halcyon tomorrow
22:38.43WormyMy initial plan was to finish Rights of Earth first, but I'm still far from the end.
22:39.18WormyRoE was supposed to be short but I've been thinking of more complicated plots
22:41.45WormyIs anyone interested in seeing Elysium?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QILNSgou5BY
22:42.22AeoI saw it.
22:42.40Tek0516I saw Elysium.
22:42.55AeoIt felt like a really good TV series was compressed into the movie's run time.
22:43.08TekDroidI disagree.
22:43.13WormyWhat a shame I missed it
22:43.38WormyWait
22:43.41AeoIt should've taken like, 22 episodes of 40 minutes a pop to tell that story.
22:43.58WormyIt isn't Elysium I'm talking about, its another film coming out
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22:44.20Patriot868hello
22:44.29AeoHi
22:44.47Patriot868anything going on
22:45.36MonetAeo: I thought it was a good film, then again UK TV series are usually much shorter
22:46.44WormyI mean Ender's Game  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5ev-nOWJH8
22:47.05MonetOh yeah i'm definitely seeing that.
22:47.13AeoMonet: That's 40 mins witohut commercials.
22:47.26Aeoone hour with them.
22:47.51MonetAeo: I get that. 22 episodes for a UK tv series? Feels mad really.
22:48.10MonetLike...how are they filling it?
22:50.08AeoWell... with simi-episodic plots.
22:50.54MonetYou mean filler :)
22:51.00AeoWell...
22:51.06AeoThat's such a negative term.
22:51.10Wormy"Her is a quirky, sci-fi romance film that takes place in a slightly futuristic Los Angeles where Theodore Twombly (Joaquin Phoenix) falls in love with an advanced Siri-like operating system voiced by Scarlett Johansson."  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJTU48_yghs
22:51.26TybusenHow many people here have already seen Gravity?
22:51.30WormyHachi ;p;
22:51.33Wormylol
22:51.33AeoMe.
22:51.41WormyNot seen it but want to
22:51.47AeoIt's good.
22:51.58TybusenThe cinematography is truly a work of art
22:52.13AeoIts story is what really got me.
22:52.27AeoDa emotionz mahn.
22:52.31TybusenAnd the physics, while sometimes being subjected to Rule of Drama, are actually surprisingly accurate for a space movie
22:52.57AeoThe biggest flaw is all of the times I'm looking at her and I'm going...
22:53.04Aeo"Don't take off your helmet."
22:53.18AeoAnd she takes it off.
22:53.40TybusenWell, she was in oxygenated environments, so she's fine there
22:53.42AeoWell, I get helmet
22:53.56AeoYou'd rather use the air on the ISS than in your suit
22:54.01TybusenThey don't wear their helmets in the ISS
22:54.04AeoI know
22:54.14TybusenWhy waste your suit air when you can use station air? :U
22:54.26AeoBut perhaps it's not best to take off your entire suit?
22:54.38TybusenNah, you can take off your suit in the ISS
22:54.46TybusenIt's climate-controlled and oxygenated
22:54.47Hachi_That "Her" film looks kinda... well, familiar
22:54.51MonetAm I missing a spoiler-related plot hole here?
22:54.52AeoWhen the debris cuold come destroy it at any momnet?
22:55.03Hachi_aka totally not retired Master Chief and Cortana
22:55.41TybusenNot gonna say any spoilers, but the biggest violations of physics I saw were the positions of the satellites in orbit and the physics of fire in space
22:56.09AeoThe hubble and ISS are insanely close.
22:56.16Monetfire...in space
22:56.30TybusenMonet: It was in an oxygenated environment
22:56.42AeoBut 0G
22:57.01MonetFire can burn in zero g, it just doesn't burn like a candle
22:57.05TybusenThe way they portrayed fire in the movie was inaccurate, but fire can still exist in space. Just not in the way we're used to
22:57.20Hachi_As long as it isn't another Prometheus, I'm good
22:57.22TybusenSpecifically, convectional fire doesn't exist in space, while convectional fire is what we have on Earth
22:57.47Moneta flame looks more like a sphere than a tongue in space
22:57.59WormyI can't wait for next year's film Interstellar, a hard sci-fi film based on Kip Thorne's theories of black holes and space warps
22:58.00Monetin zero g rather (mah brain)
22:58.20Patriot868I'm still mad at hollywood for how bad they screwed up World War Z
22:58.42TybusenAlso (minor spoilers) the ISS and Tiangong Station are definitely not only 100 miles from each other
22:59.19TybusenNot to mention Tiangong was practically dragging its ass along the metaphorical atmospheric carpet
22:59.39MonetI find it wierd how many sci fi movies show starfighters flying around with *engines working consttantly*
23:00.10TybusenGravity is very good with the concept that you don't need constant propulsion in space to get anywhere
23:00.29TybusenIt actually comes up as a plot point, even
23:00.29MonetThen again unlike those Hollywood execs, I know about orbital mechanics
23:01.06TybusenOne day we'll get a Hollywood team that actually knows physics
23:01.17Hachi_World War Z was shit
23:01.23Hachi_I mean, absolute shit
23:01.40Hachi_Physics were disobeyed, logic was null
23:01.41Patriot868Don't remind me
23:01.53Patriot868The book was so good
23:02.05Patriot868and they did the exact opposite of everything in the book
23:02.17ShredderDXThat's what they get for killing the only scientist, and wasn't even in the book
23:02.53MonetGood thing I didn't buy a ticket
23:02.56Patriot868The only dude from the book was the Wambrug
23:02.58Hachi_How mad are you that probably only a small percent of people who watched WWZ will have read the book
23:03.02Aeogives Patriot868 a machete, which he does not have to worry about reloading.
23:03.12Patriot868And isreal was never breached in the book
23:03.14Hachi_And public will only remember WWZ through the movie
23:03.20ShredderDX><
23:03.27Patriot868and north korea completely vanished
23:03.36Patriot868and there was no miracle cure in the book
23:03.44TybusenAll I know about the movie version is that some guy tripped on an airplane ramp and shot himself in the head
23:03.46Patriot868and they also completely removed Yonkers
23:04.29Patriot868and the reddeker plan
23:04.31TybusenPatriot868: You can't exactly blame someone for wanting to leave North Korea out of the picture :P
23:05.04MonetWhy does this remind me of Starship Troopers?
23:05.22Hachi_Because Starship Troopers was just as shitty
23:05.29Patriot868True. But in the book north korea disappeared into underground bomb shelters
23:05.42Patriot868Why did the ships not have guns on them in starship troopers?
23:05.53Patriot868I mean, they never returned fire!
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23:06.44TybusenAt the very least I think people consider Starship Troopers a farce. World War Z? It won't have the fortune to be remembered as such
23:06.52MonetAlso why do you send hordes of assault rifle wielding infantry to a man-eating bug infested planet with nary a machinegun or flamethorwer in sight even though you know they have bugs that can fire plasma out of their  arses?
23:07.28Patriot868Also, on the subject of campy movies. Heres a fun game to play. Everytime a slightly homeosexueal scene comes up in top gun, take a shot. You wont last thirty minutes
23:07.50Patriot868but seriously, why didnt they start using shotguns in close quarters
23:08.16MonetBasically the way research for Starship troopers was done (I am not kidding), the crew read the start of the book, got bored and made something not even close.
23:08.30MonetIn the book the Mobile Infantry were space marines.
23:09.04Patriot868Ya, that was cool
23:09.14MonetActual. Power-armoured, professional, space marines, not hicks who's most reliable tactic on the field is spray and pray you don't get eaten
23:10.03WormyThe first Starship Troopers was okay
23:10.15Patriot868The second one stunk
23:11.17Patriot868Hey, qucik question, have you guys heard of a movie called Solaris?
23:11.23WormyYes
23:11.43MonetAnd for the third: No matter who he is, if a guy you are relying on starts babbling that the city-sized bug you see is God just shoot hi min the frikkin' head and put him out of his deluded msiery.
23:11.44WormyI enjoyed Moon and Sunshine as well
23:12.10WormyAnd District 9 was loads better than most alien films recently
23:12.34Patriot868Solaris is like the russians 2001 a space odessey. Its awesome
23:13.29WormyPatriot:  In that case you might like Sunshine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ2-xR54UDU
23:13.44MonetI'm trying to recall an infantryman in the first film that wasn't some backwater hick.
23:13.52Wormythe producers tried to make it more scientific too
23:13.54Hachi_I think Sunshine's a stupid film
23:13.55MonetAPart from John Rico
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23:14.00Hachi_Moon was good though
23:14.23TybusenBecause it's made of cheese?
23:14.49WormyTybusen:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twuScTcDP_Q
23:15.02WormyYeah, the ending fight in Sunshine was a bit random and dumb
23:16.33WormyI thought Battle Los Angeles was okay, only because the aliens weren't that much more advanced than us
23:18.07TybusenIt's a shame that good movies get so little publicity these days simply because they're not the run-of-the-mill pieces of crap that Hollywood pumps out every month
23:20.14TybusenSo I learned something ironic the other day
23:20.23WormyWhat?
23:21.01TybusenThe Presidio District in San Francisco, where Starfleet HQ is supposed to be in the future... guess who owns a significant part of that district today
23:21.12TybusenLucasfilm
23:21.22MonetTroll
23:21.37MonetIts a shame really, it seems what's cool seems to sell better than what is accurate.
23:21.40WormyI think Industrial Light and Effects worked on some Star Trek films
23:21.41TekDroidLol
23:22.19Wormyindustrial light & magic
23:22.24TybusenGeorge Lucas - I have money to spare, let's go buy Starfleet HQ
23:22.32MonetTake the starfighter: Apparently it's not so interesting without those wings which would be compltely useless in space.
23:23.00WormyI find the jets (yes I know they aren't really jets) on the X-wing funny
23:24.09TybusenI'm personally okay with some violations of physics if the result is sufficiently badass, though at least when I put wings on my TIAF starfighters, I justify it by saying they're designed for both space and atmospheric combat
23:24.13MonetWhy would you need an intake unless they are some kind of really really realy advanced scramjet?
23:24.21Patriot868I like the X wing, realistic space combat obeying the laws of physics is rather dull
23:24.31Tybusen^
23:24.39Patriot868well x wings are also atmospheric fighters also
23:24.47Patriot868designed to land anywhere
23:25.03Patriot868wereas TIE fighters can not land very well
23:25.06Monetyeah but look at the Millenium Falcom.
23:25.34WormyThe AT AT is a bit unrealistic really
23:25.50TybusenIt may be useless to put wings on a starfighter, but at least if you get thrown into the atmosphere of a planet, you stand a far better chance of not plummeting to your death than if you were in a traditional space pod
23:25.50WormyIt looks even more cumbersome than a mecha
23:25.59MonetAll Star Wars ships are fitted with repuslorlifts, which basically means you can fly around even if your ship is a box.
23:26.15Patriot868I found out that they do use hypermatter in star wars
23:26.21WormyYes
23:26.35TybusenThe X Wings could be older starfighters from before repulsorlifts, just they were retrofitted when the Rebels got their hands on them
23:26.41WormyIts the inspiration for SporeWiki hypermatter (along with tetryon radiation from Star Trek)
23:26.42MonetWormy: At least star wars were smart to point out how bad a design decision it was.
23:26.50Wormytrue
23:26.55Patriot868Nope, x wings are experimental fighters
23:27.11Patriot868they were created right before the fall of the rebupblic
23:27.29WormyI thought I read that they were made in the late Clone Wars
23:27.45TybusenCould've been "experimental" in that "hey let's see what happens when we retrofit this old-ass fighter hur" :U
23:27.53MonetWormy: Same point in time really
23:27.55Patriot868and the company gave the prototypes and the blueprints to the leaders of the rebellion before the company was seized
23:28.13Patriot868From what I read they were a cpmpletely new design
23:28.17WormyI know, I was correlating
23:28.18Patriot868*completely
23:28.34MonetThe Emprie probably didn't put them into production because basic Imperial military philosophy practically runs on Cheap and Cheerful.
23:28.39TybusenIt's good to have a Plan B when your repulsorlift fails
23:28.55Patriot868Ya. Thats why they didnt make anymore of vaders tie fighter
23:29.08Tybusen"There's something wrong with the G-Diffuser!"
23:29.12Patriot868mad the interceptor and defender type instead
23:29.40Patriot868As well as the bomber class
23:29.58Patriot868If you could not tell, I am a total star wars nerd
23:31.11MonetThe X-wing had tons of stuff the TIE didn't: Shields, life support, on-board repair, emergency supplies and a hyperdrive.
23:31.26Patriot868Ya, because tie fighters were stripped down for speed
23:31.42TybusenAlso, unless a repulsorlift suddenly gives a box aerodynamicness, I imagine a fighter with wings would outclass the box in atmospheric combat
23:31.54Patriot868Thats true
23:32.12MonetThey lowered the amount of materials and made the whole thing as small as possible...until they stuck those massive solar panels on the sides.
23:32.32TybusenTIE fighters in the atmosphere would get tons of wind resistance compared to an X-Wing
23:32.53Patriot868Thats why they made the interceptor class
23:33.01Patriot868Better aerodynamics and faster
23:33.39WormyCertain things in the Star Warsverse I simply do not acknowledge happen.  The death of Chewbacca,  I refuse to accept that as canon.
23:33.56TybusenStill, it's gonna get massive air resistance because of that big blob it calls a cockpit
23:34.06Patriot868I accepted it only because it took an entire freaking moon to kill him
23:34.28Patriot868We don't know the type of thrust TIE figthers get though, might make up for it
23:35.06MonetTheyhave two ion engines
23:35.34Patriot868But we dont know the exact specs
23:35.34Patriot868We are not Imperial scientists
23:35.36MonetBasically it's like me achieving thrust by blowing though a pair of straws with my nose
23:36.01TybusenAnd X-Wings have four jet engines though I don't know what powers them
23:36.46Patriot868I beleive it was an onboard mini hypermatter reactor
23:36.51Patriot868or antimatter
23:37.10Patriot868I support the empire by the way
23:37.14MonetThe TIE is basically a shittily-designed escape pod with a pair f solar panels and armed with two turbolasers.
23:37.15WormySo do I
23:37.46TybusenI don't know how much that is compared to ion engines but I'm assuming even after factoring in engine thrust, the X-Wing far outclasses a TIE in atmospheric combat
23:38.01WormyI created a list of GE bdassery to prove they are Tier 1 http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon#Galactic_Empire
23:38.05Patriot868No one said the empire cared about its pilots
23:38.17MonetPatriot: They don't.
23:38.18Patriot868Or its soldiers
23:38.43Patriot868They were never know for having a large veteran day parade. Not many come back
23:38.51MonetPilots are not allowed to attach themselves to their TIEs and at least half of the stormtrooepr ranks are clones
23:39.06Patriot868Ya
23:39.26TybusenSo really, the Empire's entire strategy is the ultimate Zerg Rush
23:39.39MonetPretty much, yeah
23:39.59Patriot868I loved when I found a website pitting Star Treks federation versus the empire
23:40.05TybusenThrow tons of shitty escape pod excuses for fighters along with unpassionate soldiers, that ought to wear down the enemy eventually
23:40.29WormyI think it would be a long and devastating war for the GE but they could take out the DCP duue to sheer industrial might and size
23:40.36MonetI prefer the old Sith Empire, even if its leaders were all a bunch of sadistic psychos.
23:41.54TybusenThe GE definitely could eventually wear down any empire in the Wikiverse simply because they have the numbers and industry
23:42.11WormyI think they have the tech too
23:42.15Patriot868Ya, but they proved how gullible they were later, letting Darth Bane manipulate them.
23:42.19Patriot868Defintley the tech
23:42.48TybusenThey're easily on Tier 1 for tech, factor in size and industrial power and they could easily be a major Gigaquadrant power
23:42.55WormyI don't think they could defeat any empires Culture level and up
23:43.00MonetHere's a question regarding continuity: If the foundation of the Empire was met with open applaus, why the hell did the Emperor spend so much effort into mking the army as terrifying as posible?
23:43.15TybusenI wonder how they would fare against multiple comparable enemies though
23:43.47TybusenMonet: Not everyone was applauding. The army was designed to take care of those who weren't applauding
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23:44.27Patriot868Because the senators did not excepect the xenophobic policies that followed, nor did they think the senate would be disolved
23:44.33MonetI suppose planets lik Corulag had it pretty comfrotable while Alderaan and Bothui got the shitty end of the stick.
23:44.48WormyThese guys make Star Wars and much of the Gigaquadrant look childish http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/The+Culture
23:47.22MonetHaving "unable to travel to other universes" as a declared weakness just goes to show how mega advanced the Culture is.
23:48.35WormyI don't like the Bothans, them and there disintergrator weapons in Star Wars Battlefront
23:49.18TybusenNot as bad as Romulans and their disruptor weapons in STO
23:49.27Patriot868What the hell is outskirts battledome?
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23:52.03Tybusen...and that's why I think we should put Catface in the kennel.
23:52.07TybusenOhai Catface
23:54.42MonetI wonder if the Glactic Empire is doing the same thing as every successor to ROme, for xample http://images.wikia.com/swtor/images/a/a1/Sith_battleship.png look familiar?
23:56.23MonetThat battleship design is dated hmm...2,500BBY?
23:56.28WormyPatriot:  One of those sites/forums aimed at sci-fi debates
23:57.25WormyThats the main thing about Star Wars galaxy, its either stagnant or uses DI philosophy "if it works, no need to change it"
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