| 00:00.17 | Hachi_ | Monet: Need your Theians in more fic bro |
| 00:01.12 | Monet | I have a half-coded story where Maryah visits their homeworld |
| 00:01.34 | OluapPlayer | code dis |
| 00:10.35 | DrodoEmpire | I stopped playing Rome 2 a while ago. XD |
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| 00:41.44 | Tek0516 | Wow... Users: 3976 (94 active) |
| 00:42.32 | Tek0516 | I'm not sure which amazes me more, that there are 4,000 users or that there are still 94 active ones. |
| 00:42.48 | Tek0516 | And this too: Pages: 132,111 |
| 00:44.56 | DrodoEmpire | Where? |
| 00:44.58 | DrodoEmpire | Sporewiki? |
| 00:45.28 | Tek0516 | Yeah. |
| 00:45.33 | DrodoEmpire | Jee. |
| 00:45.39 | Tek0516 | http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SporeWiki |
| 00:45.42 | DrodoEmpire | Where'd you get the page part? |
| 00:46.04 | DrodoEmpire | Does that include every page that has existed at some point? |
| 00:46.21 | Tek0516 | I believe that's any existing page on the wiki. |
| 00:46.29 | Tek0516 | Files would count as a page too. |
| 00:46.58 | DrodoEmpire | I see |
| 00:47.12 | Tek0516 | That 1326 on the wiki is just the ones on the main namespace, I believe. |
| 00:47.20 | DrodoEmpire | I see |
| 00:51.26 | Tek0516 | Also, introducing the Farengeto's most top secret installation: Cordosars Prison. http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/e/e9/Cordosars_Prison.png |
| 00:51.59 | DrodoEmpire | I see |
| 00:52.07 | DrodoEmpire | Why exactly is it so secret? |
| 00:52.08 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 00:53.25 | Tek0516 | This maximum security prison is also home to the Farengeto's supersoldier program and by extension much of their most elite special forces. The only detainees are criminals sentenced for life. It's also essentially TekNet's "secret lair". |
| 00:55.43 | Tek0516 | And it's a challenging target; in orbit around a relatively small black hole at a highly classified location, should you manage to defeat its elite soldiers its set to explode and fall into the singularity. |
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| 01:13.13 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 01:13.28 | DrodoSleep | Hi |
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| 01:49.36 | HachiSleep | Hai |
| 01:49.37 | DrodoSleep | Hi |
| 01:51.08 | HachiSleep | Looks like we're sleeping together |
| 01:51.53 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 01:55.04 | Tek0516 | Weird moment of the day still goes to that infobot command with Hachi and eating. |
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| 02:20.30 | The_Randomness | ~poke Tek0516 |
| 02:20.30 | infobot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Tek0516, pokes Tek0516 repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 02:32.09 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 02:43.38 | HachiSleep | I hope Liquid comes on |
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| 03:47.59 | Angrybirds | ~seen GD12 |
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| 11:50.06 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
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| 12:05.00 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 12:05.11 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: Hm |
| 12:05.36 | ImpyDroid | What do you think was the first species the humans contacted in Sporewiki? |
| 12:06.33 | ImpyDroid | *humans |
| 12:07.08 | Liquid_Ink | I'm not sure |
| 12:07.50 | Liquid_Ink | THat's something to ask Wormy |
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| 12:55.11 | Jepardi | Hi |
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| 14:21.25 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 14:22.18 | OluapWorker | hi |
| 14:23.15 | ImpyDroid | OluapWorker: http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/quickfix/7/8/4/192784.jpg?v=1 Madre de Dias |
| 14:23.40 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 14:23.54 | OluapWorker | ImpyDroid: Did you see the two new Fog War sections? |
| 14:24.03 | ImpyDroid | nein |
| 14:24.05 | ImpyDroid | show me |
| 14:24.53 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#The_Marking and the section below it |
| 14:26.41 | ImpyDroid | Foreshadowing levels are to the max |
| 14:26.47 | OluapWorker | Aye |
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| 14:38.26 | OluapWorker | ~poke Cyrannian |
| 14:38.26 | infobot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cyrannian, pokes Cyrannian repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 14:38.34 | Cyrannian | ~eat OluapWorker |
| 14:38.34 | infobot | ACTION slurps up all the OluapWorker available |
| 14:39.24 | OluapWorker | waptor go work on fog war grrr |
| 14:43.13 | Cyrannian | I'm in the middle of writing it up |
| 14:43.33 | OluapWorker | yey |
| 14:45.50 | Cyrannian | Ose: What's your opinion of the updates to the wiki? |
| 15:00.20 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Terminus - c |
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| 15:34.48 | OluapWorker | Cyrannian: Tastylicious |
| 15:35.01 | Cyrannian | Thanks dollface |
| 15:38.05 | Cyrannian | I need one more follower before the SporeWiki Twitter account reaches 100 followers. |
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| 15:53.30 | Ose | Cyrannian: pretty cool |
| 15:53.52 | Cyrannian | Glad you like it |
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| 15:56.38 | Monet | Hallo |
| 15:56.47 | OluapWorker | hey |
| 15:56.55 | Cyrannian | Hullu |
| 15:57.00 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Terminus Cyrannian made a new section |
| 15:59.05 | Monet | This is gettin' good. |
| 16:00.13 | Monet | "MJ-51" I just couldn't stop grinning |
| 16:01.17 | Monet | So Cyrannus now heas LIBs? |
| 16:01.34 | Monet | Or is it WIBs? |
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| 16:02.23 | Hichi | Hai |
| 16:02.36 | Cyrannian | WiB |
| 16:02.40 | Cyrannian | Hi! |
| 16:03.04 | OluapWorker | ribbit |
| 16:03.12 | Monet | Hai. |
| 16:03.12 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Terminus chek nu section |
| 16:06.02 | Hichi | So Apollo's facin a weapon's crisis |
| 16:08.20 | Cyrannian | I'm showing more overt "oh deer here comes the Empire" stuff in the SWoBF |
| 16:09.27 | OluapWorker | Fog War is all about foreshadowing |
| 16:11.52 | Monet | Meguessing the Empire has this weapon by now |
| 16:20.33 | OluapWorker | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Laconic/BunnyEarsLawyer Do we have any chars who fit under this? |
| 16:20.45 | OluapWorker | I'm adding a bunch of tropes to the main wiki article |
| 16:21.14 | Monet | Santo? |
| 16:22.30 | Cyrannian | Perhaps Empress Minerala of the Regellis Empire |
| 16:22.42 | Monet | She works. |
| 16:22.47 | OluapWorker | Yeah |
| 16:23.01 | OluapWorker | I'm not gonna put Santo because his competence is a bit questionable |
| 16:23.34 | Monet | Most of our crazies tend to be well...unstable |
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| 16:27.10 | Monet | Telfinne was definitely eccentric...too bad she was also completely off-the-rails and uncontrolled. |
| 16:27.55 | Monet | Also I'd suggest Admiral Jayraan Kaios. |
| 16:28.52 | Monet | He's a bit odd, very laid back, his personal starship doubles as a party palace, and yet he's probably one of the most notorious pirate lords on the ITN's radaar. ALso he has a colossal tricorner hat |
| 16:28.52 | OluapWorker | I don't know about him so I won't add him |
| 16:29.11 | Monet | Also he has a Dvottie as a first mate, who also has a hat. |
| 16:29.20 | OluapWorker | Kaios sounds like a Mary Sue to me tbh |
| 16:30.00 | Monet | Enlighten me. |
| 16:30.32 | Cyrannian | Dvottie first mate = best first mate |
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| 16:30.41 | Monet | I know what a Sue is but...how does Kaios sound like a Sue? |
| 16:30.51 | Imperios | Back |
| 16:30.53 | OluapWorker | I'm yet to see him having any kind of flaw |
| 16:31.22 | OluapWorker | Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Terminus |
| 16:31.33 | Imperios | ...Cyrannians have a Death Star |
| 16:31.35 | Imperios | fuk |
| 16:31.39 | Imperios | fukfukfukfukfukfuk |
| 16:31.45 | Monet | OluapWorker: He'll do anything for a good laugh. |
| 16:32.20 | OluapWorker | And? |
| 16:32.21 | Monet | He's partially a pirate because he doesn't like rules. |
| 16:32.36 | Imperios | That's hardly a flaw |
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| 16:33.20 | Monet | Well, he was hired to kidnap Alessa, didn't realise what she was going though, all he was interested in was a challenge and possibly money |
| 16:33.41 | OluapWorker | I don't see how that's a flaw |
| 16:34.02 | Imperios | Cyrannian: I wonder what happened to that Death Star thingie after the GCW |
| 16:34.05 | Monet | He put the desire for a challenge above considering the consequences. |
| 16:34.29 | Imperios | Will it appear in DT? |
| 16:34.38 | Cyrannian | Perhaps |
| 16:34.53 | OluapWorker | They used it to blow the Cyrannian Radeon homeworld up hurhurhur |
| 16:35.03 | Cyrannian | It's basically a retcon of the Justice Stars I used to have |
| 16:35.10 | Imperios | Death Stars |
| 16:35.11 | Imperios | whooooo |
| 16:35.16 | Imperios | Death Stars are fun |
| 16:35.33 | OluapWorker | Anteddy - we darth vader now |
| 16:35.34 | Monet | Until some random fighter pilot fires a torpedo down an exhaust port |
| 16:35.54 | OluapWorker | Imp go work on Cat plot nao |
| 16:36.13 | Imperios | Monet: And then Apollo throws Antediluvian in a ventilation shaft |
| 16:36.15 | Imperios | Ssssss |
| 16:36.24 | Imperios | As you wish |
| 16:36.48 | OluapWorker | I'm waiting for you to be done with it so we can do the final Andromeda battle |
| 16:40.20 | Technobliterator | hi |
| 16:40.21 | Technobliterator | :L |
| 16:40.28 | OluapWorker | u shup go code up stoof |
| 16:40.42 | Technobliterator | nu only got an hour before I have to go swimming |
| 16:41.57 | OluapWorker | dum |
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| 16:44.27 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Xho] by ChanServ |
| 16:45.34 | OluapWorker | spu |
| 16:46.51 | Xho | God kväll, dumma mannen |
| 16:46.53 | Cyrannian | I was hoping a killer penguin ate you. |
| 16:52.29 | Xho | y dat |
| 16:52.49 | Cyrannian | cus i luv u |
| 16:53.39 | OluapWorker | Xho: check dis http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Mimi.27s_Knowledge |
| 16:53.41 | OluapWorker | and dis http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Terminus |
| 16:54.38 | Cyrannian | ~seen Wormy |
| 16:54.48 | infobot | wormy <5284e40a@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.82.132.228.10> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 22h 47m 7s ago, saying: 'test'. |
| 16:55.24 | Xho | Mimi - I AM WILLY WONKA |
| 16:56.05 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 16:57.00 | Xho | Terminus weapon is powerful enough to blast through Orbispira shields |
| 16:57.06 | Xho | Apollo - democracy eh |
| 16:57.19 | Cyrannian | Antediluvian - fufufufufufu |
| 16:58.07 | Xho | Looking at the Fiction Universe page |
| 16:58.16 | Xho | Santorakh - y i villain |
| 16:58.27 | OluapWorker | Is that a trick question hur |
| 16:58.52 | Xho | Santorakh - possibly |
| 16:59.30 | OluapWorker | Also were you here when I posted this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#The_Marking |
| 16:59.33 | OluapWorker | If you weren't then chek |
| 16:59.38 | Xho | Blue link so no |
| 17:00.18 | Xho | "What you've seen is irrelevant. Emperor Marigrax orders you to be a servant. You will comply, or I will force you to." |
| 17:00.24 | Xho | Arsac - l8r lol |
| 17:03.52 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Angazhar I also updated this guy's relations |
| 17:03.59 | Xho | Not the links though |
| 17:04.06 | Xho | Too lazy |
| 17:04.21 | Cyrannian | Some of the admin guidelines for the wiki seem outdated: "Have the final say in most arguments (unless one of your equals or superiors disagree)." |
| 17:04.26 | OluapWorker | ~kick Xho |
| 17:04.26 | infobot | ACTION kicks Xho |
| 17:04.29 | OluapWorker | stahp lazi |
| 17:04.55 | Xho | Cyrannian: Well we still kind of do |
| 17:05.07 | Cyrannian | Shut up Xho! |
| 17:05.16 | Xho | noh |
| 17:05.32 | Cyrannian | k den |
| 17:05.52 | OluapWorker | Needs more Wormy for moar Fog War rps |
| 17:06.00 | Xho | do teem rp |
| 17:06.02 | Xho | nao fgt |
| 17:06.14 | OluapWorker | teem rp needs Wormy you puppy-head |
| 17:06.25 | Xho | tilts his head |
| 17:06.25 | Xho | y dis |
| 17:06.32 | OluapWorker | cus Titanozor |
| 17:06.32 | Cyrannian | I think he told me yesterday that he is away for the week. |
| 17:06.37 | Xho | nsfsdghb |
| 17:06.43 | OluapWorker | fak |
| 17:07.13 | OluapWorker | In that case I'll take over Titanozor for now |
| 17:07.29 | Cyrannian | It might be next week though, so don't take my word for it |
| 17:07.48 | Cyrannian | He did say that I can ban everyone and eat their cars though. :3 |
| 17:07.53 | Xho | not mah car |
| 17:07.58 | Xho | i need dat to get to wek |
| 17:08.02 | Xho | werk even |
| 17:08.05 | Cyrannian | You have a car? |
| 17:08.05 | OluapWorker | u no wek |
| 17:08.11 | Xho | Yes I have a car |
| 17:08.20 | Xho | I am big grown up adult |
| 17:08.35 | Cyrannian | eats Xho's car |
| 17:08.42 | OluapWorker | I read that in the Heavy's face |
| 17:08.43 | Xho | FOK |
| 17:08.49 | Xho | drives Cyrannian to work |
| 17:08.56 | Cyrannian | enjoys it |
| 17:09.01 | Xho | now feels unclean |
| 17:09.06 | OluapWorker | nasti |
| 17:09.27 | Xho | I can't imagine that |
| 17:09.34 | Xho | Driving a raptor car to work |
| 17:09.48 | Cyrannian | http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/000/176/036/1312184571708.jpg - My face right now. |
| 17:09.55 | OluapWorker | oho |
| 17:10.00 | Xho | worships Cyrannian |
| 17:10.06 | Xho | praise wit oil |
| 17:10.10 | Xho | and cooking up |
| 17:10.15 | Xho | and sodomy and whatnot |
| 17:10.28 | Cyrannian | no sodomy on monday |
| 17:10.32 | Xho | OluapWorker: I have upgraded Anzilanarus' race status to Chaos Monster |
| 17:10.32 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 17:10.34 | Xho | Cyrannian: y not |
| 17:10.42 | OluapWorker | Xho: choos monstor |
| 17:10.55 | Xho | I read that as Juice Monstor |
| 17:11.09 | OluapWorker | Anzilanarus - JUICE FOR EVERYONE |
| 17:11.56 | OluapWorker | Nocturnians are Chaos Monsters, Anzilanarus is a Chaos Monster |
| 17:12.01 | OluapWorker | Soon Gorf will be a Chaos Monster |
| 17:13.07 | Xho | Nocturnians - nocturrr Anzilanarus - anzilanarus_yes01.wav |
| 17:13.30 | Cyrannian | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMWJTMICQAIAGNB.jpg:large |
| 17:13.33 | Xho | Well we have nine planes of Chaos |
| 17:13.35 | Xho | Needs moar |
| 17:14.41 | OluapWorker | Gorf plane |
| 17:14.50 | Monet | Imperialism.wav |
| 17:14.50 | OluapWorker | Where everything is Gorf |
| 17:14.53 | OluapWorker | aka reality's true form |
| 17:15.13 | Xho | Xhodocto - in the beginning was Gorf, and the Gorf was good |
| 17:16.19 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Chaos/Monsters list Anzibunny and Noctums in dis |
| 17:17.21 | Xho | Anzilanarus' full title is quite long |
| 17:17.25 | Xho | As is with demonic nomenclature |
| 17:18.24 | Cyrannian | Princess of the Fair and Cuddly Puppy Cats |
| 17:18.33 | Xho | Santorakh - DAT MAH TITLE |
| 17:18.51 | Xho | Right when I have a chance to use Santorakh again that will be his title |
| 17:19.42 | OluapWorker | That's how he refers to Kithworto now |
| 17:20.07 | Xho | Santorakh - Princess of the Fair and Cuddly Puppy Cats Kithworto - watchu talkin about willis |
| 17:28.22 | Cyrannian | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.41 | Hichi | yey |
| 17:28.56 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Chaos/Monsters dere added moar |
| 17:29.39 | OluapWorker | finish Kezoreg paeg u fagtron |
| 17:29.49 | Xho | Fagtron |
| 17:29.50 | Xho | My sides |
| 17:31.13 | Xho | I need to add the Chaos Monsters for Insomnia, Tangent and Equilibrium |
| 17:31.45 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Kara_Invi%C3%A1#Quotes - MOAR |
| 17:32.02 | OluapWorker | nu |
| 17:32.20 | Xho | "Gianne Inviá - I love her, but she needs to be more passionate and outspoken." |
| 17:32.25 | Xho | Nu - YEH CUZ SHE DED |
| 17:33.44 | Monet | Septis - Y u forget me I'm adorable! |
| 17:34.04 | Xho | Santorakh - well aren't u full of urself |
| 17:34.18 | OluapWorker | Hichi: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/619/986/b03.jpg Petra's darkest secret |
| 17:34.51 | Hichi | u call dat a sekrit |
| 17:34.52 | Monet | Septis - Are you calling me fat? |
| 17:35.16 | OluapWorker | Maryah - ur chubby yeh |
| 17:35.38 | Cyrannian | Shuddup and add quotes |
| 17:35.52 | OluapWorker | hao bout u quote me |
| 17:36.11 | Cyrannian | "Oluap is dum." -dere |
| 17:36.22 | Monet | Septis - But all my siblings are my weight. |
| 17:36.31 | OluapWorker | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH |
| 17:36.39 | OluapWorker | Maryah - oho chubby family |
| 17:36.47 | Imperios | Cyrannian: quoted |
| 17:37.17 | Monet | Septis - Why do people think Draconis are fat? |
| 17:37.29 | Imperios | Kamaversa - cos u are |
| 17:37.33 | Monet | Septis - My mummy calls it muscle. |
| 17:37.46 | OluapWorker | Hichi: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/619/994/f8d.jpg |
| 17:38.07 | Cyrannian | ngh creepy reminocles quote |
| 17:38.18 | Hichi | Well there are a lot of horses in SnK |
| 17:38.23 | Hichi | So Jean isn't completely alone |
| 17:38.29 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 17:38.45 | OluapWorker | Jean/Bullfart OTP |
| 17:39.16 | Xho | Santorakh - Well I am the god of famine, everyone looks fat |
| 17:39.42 | Monet | Cyrannian: Quoted. |
| 17:40.47 | Cyrannian | danke |
| 17:40.57 | OluapWorker | Things changed quickly. At the wedding Maryah was childish and playful and now she's a serious ruler with nerve-wreck traits |
| 17:41.40 | Cyrannian | Kara - Sounds like someone needs a man! |
| 17:41.47 | Xho | Santorakh - ELLO' |
| 17:42.32 | Imperios | Hichi: Also I changed Reminocles' quote on Kezoreg again for additional creepiness |
| 17:42.33 | OluapWorker | Maryah - howaboutno.png |
| 17:42.43 | Imperios | Check out what "eromenos" means |
| 17:42.49 | Xho | Santorakh ,A; |
| 17:43.37 | Hichi | Eromenos = Love toy |
| 17:43.37 | Xho | “His parents must have been cray-cray to have a threesome with Angazhar.” - Kara Inviá about Kezoreg |
| 17:43.42 | Monet | MY EYES |
| 17:43.52 | Xho | Angazhar - wat dafuq r u talkin about |
| 17:43.57 | OluapWorker | wut goin on heer |
| 17:43.59 | OluapWorker | y Pedoburd |
| 17:44.00 | Monet | dunks his face in acid |
| 17:44.10 | Imperios | It actually means |
| 17:44.11 | Imperios | "Beloved" |
| 17:44.18 | Hichi | ohgod |
| 17:44.22 | OluapWorker | My point stands hur |
| 17:44.27 | Monet | removes his face from the acidand dunks it in bleach |
| 17:44.27 | Imperios | Reminocles IS a space Greek and Greeks were into that kind of stuff |
| 17:44.51 | OluapWorker | Angazhar - '''GET FINGER OUT OF THERE.''' |
| 17:45.22 | Monet | Angazhar should start speaking i ntheird person. |
| 17:45.24 | Xho | geezush and 3/4 |
| 17:45.42 | Monet | Dunno why but he should |
| 17:45.50 | Xho | Xhodocto already speak in third person I think |
| 17:46.02 | OluapWorker | He never did afaik |
| 17:46.06 | Monet | "we" doesn't count |
| 17:46.21 | Xho | Well they never actually refer to mortals in their speech |
| 17:46.21 | Cyrannian | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.30 | Xho | They usually give one word sentences |
| 17:46.39 | OluapWorker | That's not third person |
| 17:46.49 | OluapWorker | http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/620/116/134.gif Angazhar when Kezoreg was born |
| 17:47.08 | Xho | olol |
| 17:47.52 | Monet | Third person = "Angazhar doesn't like this". "Angazhar wants to kill you" |
| 17:47.52 | Xho | Well they don't even speak in full sentences to begin with |
| 17:48.43 | OluapWorker | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/620/081/cea.jpg Nu and Mu |
| 17:49.11 | Xho | Well Nu to Mu really |
| 17:49.47 | OluapWorker | That's the idea yes |
| 17:50.34 | OluapWorker | needs moar Tnatum |
| 17:50.36 | OluapWorker | Tantum even |
| 17:50.39 | Imperios | ANGAZHAR SMAASH |
| 17:51.30 | Monet | Angazhar in a nutshell |
| 17:51.54 | OluapWorker | Imperios Monet Hichi Xho: Can we Tantum? |
| 17:52.12 | Imperios | I am working on FogWar rn |
| 17:52.19 | Monet | I was about to buy food. |
| 17:52.20 | Hichi | I don't really feel like it right now |
| 17:52.28 | Imperios | So fogwar or tantrum |
| 17:52.39 | OluapWorker | asetazv |
| 17:52.53 | Xho | ffs y we noh |
| 17:53.45 | OluapWorker | In that case I'll do something else |
| 17:54.35 | Cyrannian | throws monkey poop at Xho |
| 17:54.54 | OluapWorker | butbut ur a waptor, not a monkey |
| 17:55.05 | Xho | throws Xho at Cyrannian's monkey poop |
| 17:55.52 | Cyrannian | throws monkey poop at Xho's Cyrannian's monkey poop's Xho |
| 17:56.35 | Xho | throws Xho's Cyrannian's monkey poop's Xho's monkey poop at Cyrannian's Xho's Cyrannian's monkey poop's Cyrannian's monkey poop's Xho |
| 17:56.49 | Xho | Fuck I confused myself with that one |
| 17:57.09 | Cyrannian | rite den |
| 17:58.33 | Cyrannian | I'm bored. |
| 17:59.25 | OluapWorker | moar Fog War |
| 17:59.28 | OluapWorker | never enuff Fog War |
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| 18:57.11 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
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| 19:14.49 | OluapWorker | hello again |
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| 19:17.41 | Hachi_ | Hai |
| 19:17.46 | OluapWorker | hai fugly |
| 19:19.44 | OluapWorker | ~kick Xho |
| 19:19.44 | infobot | ACTION kicks Xho |
| 19:19.47 | OluapWorker | wake up nao |
| 19:20.47 | Monet | Hi |
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| 19:33.48 | The_Randomness | Hello everyone |
| 19:33.53 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 19:34.04 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 19:34.37 | Xho | Hachi_: No matter how many times you play Bleed on guitar, it is still hard |
| 19:35.12 | Hachi_ | Well yeah, guitars are pretty solid things |
| 19:35.26 | Xho | dum |
| 19:40.30 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 19:40.54 | The_Randomness | I see what you did there. |
| 19:43.22 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Meeting_the_Teacher blargh |
| 19:45.27 | Hachi_ | "Laidarthae - Feed me, little men, feed me now! " |
| 19:45.27 | Hachi_ | Oh Audrey |
| 19:47.25 | Hachi_ | I support Titanozor x Thea'Nhirara nao |
| 19:47.33 | Cyrannian|Away | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.34 | OluapWorker | nasti |
| 19:52.44 | OluapWorker | So yeah, Jerkon's first meeting with Shu'suvreca nearly gave him a heart attack |
| 19:53.33 | Hachi_ | Wanna see more of Alan |
| 19:53.55 | OluapWorker | Shu'suvreca - I'M TYRANNOSAURUS ALAN AND I'LL HAVE YOU FOR BREAKFAST *eats planet* |
| 19:55.40 | OluapWorker | Milky Way and Andromedan fronts are equally close to finishing |
| 19:55.48 | OluapWorker | Let's bet which one will end first |
| 19:57.32 | Hachi_ | Milky Way hur |
| 19:57.49 | Cyrannian|Away | How will the Cyrannian side fit into the next story-arc? |
| 19:58.30 | OluapWorker | We'll have to discuss that still |
| 19:59.56 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:History_Reawakens#Illusion_of_Respite part 1 of noo chapter |
| 20:00.15 | OluapWorker | Monet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_1#Meeting_the_Teacher check stoof |
| 20:00.55 | Xho | Monet: she dun descended |
| 20:01.20 | Monet | Does this explain things? |
| 20:01.43 | Xho | Well it was either descension or dark-ascension |
| 20:05.51 | Monet | What bars has Psi been to |
| 20:07.09 | OluapWorker | Psi - I AM THE BAR |
| 20:08.06 | Xho | I dunno but not a Kicathian one |
| 20:08.31 | Xho | If Psi was drunk and started a brawl in a Kicathian one the guards couldn't detain him hur |
| 20:09.12 | OluapWorker | Mu - It was as funny as it was absolutely terrifying |
| 20:11.00 | Xho | I wonder how much security it would take to down-and-out Psi |
| 20:11.09 | Xho | I wonder if Psi's alcoholism is just linked to his past |
| 20:11.34 | Xho | Being a 130 year old Kicath he has some experience doing some nasti stoof |
| 20:11.55 | OluapWorker | Psi - I seen things man. I SEEN ALL THE THINGS |
| 20:12.55 | Xho | Zeta - yeh comin' outta your stomach |
| 20:13.07 | OluapWorker | Psi - wut ur point |
| 20:13.15 | Xho | Zeta - dunt even need to explain |
| 20:13.38 | Monet | Xho: I wonder what's scarier, a Muton Beserker or a Kicathian Agent. |
| 20:13.50 | Xho | Kicathian Muton Beserker Agent |
| 20:14.13 | OluapWorker | oh u |
| 20:14.33 | Monet | Holy fucking shit |
| 20:14.53 | Xho | That's basically Nu when angry |
| 20:15.19 | Xho | Come to think of it Nu hasn't berserked in a while |
| 20:15.32 | Xho | The angri cannot be contained |
| 20:15.38 | OluapWorker | Last thing I recall him going berserk was when the Borealis team fight Khensu |
| 20:15.41 | OluapWorker | fought |
| 20:15.43 | The_Randomness | Darn it Monet, stop giving Xho ideas. |
| 20:15.56 | OluapWorker | *time |
| 20:15.58 | OluapWorker | fuk ur language |
| 20:16.02 | Xho | noh |
| 20:16.09 | Xho | I suppose you can say thing |
| 20:16.14 | Xho | Well |
| 20:16.18 | OluapWorker | u a thing |
| 20:16.21 | Xho | I dunno it sounds odd but it's not really wrong |
| 20:16.58 | Cyrannian|Away | [[Fiction:Icolian Assemblage]] -c |
| 20:17.04 | Xho | I wonder whether if Tau is the strongest mortal female character |
| 20:17.05 | The_Randomness | Time fight made me think of LoL, and so it made sense despite the fact that I have no context. |
| 20:17.10 | Cyrannian|Away | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Icolian_Assemblage |
| 20:17.13 | Cyrannian|Away | dum |
| 20:17.21 | OluapWorker | Too |
| 20:17.30 | Xho | Agent No |
| 20:17.52 | Xho | Imagine if Captain Demoman was an Agent |
| 20:18.11 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 20:18.15 | OluapWorker | Icolians look cute tbh |
| 20:18.20 | OluapWorker | y something so cute act so ebul |
| 20:18.54 | Cyrannian|Away | Dino has the cute Icolians, I just couldn't find my scary ones |
| 20:19.16 | The_Randomness | Now that name doesn't remind me of anything from Star Trek. |
| 20:19.45 | Cyrannian|Away | http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/0/09/Maengmum.png - dere |
| 20:20.01 | Xho | Santorakh - still cute |
| 20:20.04 | OluapWorker | Yeah I prefer the cute ones hur |
| 20:20.55 | The_Randomness | I wonder how the Tholians would react to seeing them. |
| 20:21.09 | Cyrannian|Away | What do you mean? |
| 20:21.27 | The_Randomness | Their appearance and whatnot is similar. |
| 20:21.41 | Cyrannian|Away | I mean Oluap |
| 20:21.46 | The_Randomness | o |
| 20:22.10 | OluapWorker | Between being in front of a cute one and a scary one, i'd take the cute one hur |
| 20:22.37 | Cyrannian|Away | Butbutbut scary Icolians are so cute :DD |
| 20:22.43 | Xho | asdfafsdaf |
| 20:22.46 | Xho | pets Cyrannian |
| 20:22.47 | OluapWorker | nu, bad Cyrannian |
| 20:22.52 | OluapWorker | sprays water on Cyrannian|Away |
| 20:23.23 | Cyrannian|Away | transforms into Xho and runs off into the distance shouting "Sex party!" |
| 20:23.30 | The_Randomness | Xho has now become Xhirskaad |
| 20:23.41 | Xho | breaks down and cries on the floor |
| 20:23.58 | OluapWorker | Note to self, Cyrannian reacts weird to water |
| 20:24.23 | OluapWorker | http://i.imgur.com/OQvW38l.gif |
| 20:26.02 | The_Randomness | hur |
| 20:26.34 | The_Randomness | Never piss off Ghandi. |
| 20:27.33 | OluapWorker | http://i.imgur.com/esalcV3.png enter the captcha |
| 20:28.19 | Xho | See I inherit my violence from Gandhi |
| 20:28.26 | Xho | Even though I'm not related to Gandhi |
| 20:28.50 | Cyrannian|Away | Or are you? |
| 20:28.57 | OluapWorker | You and Gandhi share a great love for mass destruction |
| 20:29.08 | Xho | dat logic |
| 20:29.22 | Monet | Ghandi loves nukes, don't believe what the history boosk tell you |
| 20:29.27 | Monet | books |
| 20:29.53 | OluapWorker | http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/192hhuk4tgel0jpg/ku-bigpic.jpg Greetings from Hong Kong |
| 20:30.34 | Xho | Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, also known as Crazy Bomber Guy |
| 20:30.34 | The_Randomness | In other words, Ghandi is a bald, robed, genocidal maniac. |
| 20:30.37 | Monet | CNN you've done it again. |
| 20:30.43 | Cyrannian|Away | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oLCtkQVQO-M/TAshPSGyFDI/AAAAAAAABig/schhuDbH0-k/s1600/DangersOfLiveTV.jpg |
| 20:30.54 | OluapWorker | Poor fire |
| 20:30.59 | Xho | Gorf logic right there |
| 20:31.24 | OluapWorker | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40378683/Funny%20pics/Robin%20wants%20a%20bike.jpg |
| 20:31.24 | Monet | That's not Fox. The title should be "proud amaerican fire destroyed by Liberal-loving home" |
| 20:31.33 | The_Randomness | hur |
| 20:32.33 | Xho | OluapWorker: How has this evolved to the Dark Knight trilogy I dunno |
| 20:32.46 | OluapWorker | "YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW I GOT THIS BIKE?" |
| 20:32.48 | OluapWorker | Hachi_: http://i.imgur.com/MLdfslm.jpg |
| 20:33.18 | The_Randomness | Monet: So, fire extinguishers are obviously symbols of communism. They're red, and can be used to put out the passionate flames of 'murican patriotism. |
| 20:33.43 | Cyrannian|Away | http://failimage.com/upload/465-919/english-sign-fail.jpg |
| 20:33.47 | Xho | Aw I wish I saw that sign when I was there |
| 20:34.05 | Xho | Cyrannian: Marinated rape seeds perhaps |
| 20:34.06 | Hachi_ | OluapWorker: ohgod dat sign |
| 20:34.16 | OluapWorker | Marinated rape -Ainsley Harriott |
| 20:34.16 | Monet | The_Randomness: FOX logic |
| 20:34.24 | The_Randomness | yus |
| 20:36.13 | OluapWorker | "Call of Duty format can’t change much as it’s like a sport, says Infinity Ward’s Mark Rubin" |
| 20:36.16 | OluapWorker | "it’s like a sport" |
| 20:37.00 | The_Randomness | I'll be back later. |
| 20:37.02 | OluapWorker | http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/07/call-of-duty-format-cant-change-much-as-its-like-a-sport-says-infinity-wards-mark-rubin/ I'm not joking either |
| 20:37.09 | Monet | Isn't that Madden's philosophy? |
| 20:37.10 | The_Randomness | ~vanish |
| 20:37.10 | infobot | ACTION poofs |
| 20:39.29 | Xho | Now you wouldn't think that Engineer has 11 PhDs would you |
| 20:39.41 | Xho | So he's a doctor of 11 different fields of hard science |
| 20:40.18 | Cyrannian|Away | crushes Xho with OluapWorker's thighs |
| 20:40.20 | OluapWorker | And he spends his time fighting angry stereotypes while dancing and having the Spah sappin' his sentry |
| 20:40.23 | OluapWorker | Excuse me |
| 20:40.53 | Hachi_ | wats dis bout thigh crushin |
| 20:41.16 | OluapWorker | finish Kez paeg goddangit |
| 20:41.32 | Hachi_ | Can't tonight |
| 20:41.42 | Hachi_ | Fingers hurt from typing and I'm sleepy |
| 20:41.49 | Cyrannian|Away | I hope Wormy isn't gone for a week. I have something of diabolical importance to discuss with him. |
| 20:41.53 | OluapWorker | vomits blood all over Hachi_ |
| 20:41.55 | Xho | Just found a song from my childhood |
| 20:42.17 | Hachi_ | "I Staple Tapeworms On My Penis" |
| 20:42.30 | OluapWorker | You have a really messed up childhood |
| 20:42.47 | Monet | Waitwaitwait, how long does it take ot get 1 PhD? |
| 20:43.03 | Xho | Actually it's Ratamahatta by Sepultura |
| 20:43.16 | Hachi_ | dang u an ur indian |
| 20:43.18 | Xho | So yes it was messed up |
| 20:43.26 | Xho | Sepultura is Brazilian u dum, |
| 20:43.35 | OluapWorker | never heard of hur |
| 20:44.05 | Xho | The video is slightly odd |
| 20:44.22 | Xho | Well |
| 20:44.24 | Xho | Terrifying |
| 20:44.45 | Xho | Great song though |
| 20:45.03 | Xho | The video is set in a favela and basically tribal voodoo monsters roam through the streets |
| 20:45.12 | Xho | And it's all like plasticine model work |
| 20:45.21 | Cyrannian|Away | You had a messed up childhood too. |
| 20:45.54 | Xho | The song is good though |
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| 20:46.33 | Xho | http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/5371/ Oluap might get the lyrics |
| 20:46.35 | Xho | But I can't hur |
| 20:46.44 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 20:47.01 | OluapWorker | I do yeah |
| 20:47.10 | OluapWorker | For the most part it's just random words |
| 20:47.32 | Xho | Well this disappoints me |
| 20:47.48 | OluapWorker | Saying "porra" after your sentences is like if you were saying "bitch" |
| 20:47.56 | Xho | rite |
| 20:48.02 | OluapWorker | Though the meaning is nastier than that if you translate it literally |
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| 20:48.09 | Catface | Hi. |
| 20:48.17 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:History_Reawakens#Illusion_of_Respite have an ice queen |
| 20:48.49 | Xho | Porra means something along the lines of fuck right |
| 20:50.06 | OluapWorker | Porra translates literally to semen |
| 20:50.17 | Cyrannian|Away | Tut tut! |
| 20:50.18 | Hachi_ | ohgod |
| 20:50.43 | Cyrannian|Away | I am scandalised. |
| 20:51.02 | Xho | geezush |
| 20:51.13 | Xho | Right I understand the song now |
| 20:51.17 | Xho | Makes sense hur |
| 20:51.39 | Xho | In Spanish it's just 'semen' |
| 20:51.42 | Cyrannian|Away | ~seen Cyrannian|Away |
| 20:51.52 | infobot | cyrannian|away is currently on #sporewiki #cyrannus. Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 10s, last said: '~seen Cyrannian|Away'. |
| 20:51.52 | Catface | So, I'm going to name two major ULE worlds for upcoming things. One will be called 'Nehushtan' and the other one, Obzen. |
| 20:51.52 | Xho | Bloody imaginative |
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| 20:52.18 | Cyrannian|Away | Bye1 |
| 20:52.25 | Liquid_Ink | Bye! |
| 20:52.28 | Xho | Obzen yey |
| 20:52.33 | Catface | Xho: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauri_Porra |
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| 20:52.49 | Xho | Yeah but he's Finnish |
| 20:52.53 | Xho | We can accept this |
| 20:52.55 | TekDroid | ~seen GD12 |
| 20:52.56 | infobot | gd12 <319009da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.144.9.218> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 117d 20h 23m 19s ago, saying: 'anyway i've got to eat breakfast first'. |
| 20:54.15 | Hachi_ | yey Thevixuias bein sad |
| 20:54.42 | Xho | Well if you're a 300,000 year old ice mummy you'd have a lot to be sad about hur |
| 20:55.41 | Catface | I think you have to, as a general rule, be really ugly to play metal well. |
| 20:55.55 | Xho | Catface: Well it works in my case hur |
| 20:56.17 | Hachi_ | May as well reveal now |
| 20:56.18 | Hachi_ | "With the brace gone, the charge exploded and kicked the doors wide open, sending a wave of heat into the main chamber, which was littered with the dried-out bodies of frozen Mininan soldiers along with uncountable numbers of ice shards partially fixed int othe ice." This line is very important |
| 20:56.38 | Hachi_ | Those uncountable numbers of ice shards? Guess who that is |
| 20:56.45 | Xho | Santorakh - me |
| 20:56.48 | Xho | Hm |
| 20:56.52 | Xho | Can't guess |
| 20:56.55 | Hachi_ | u dum |
| 20:56.57 | OluapWorker | Gorf |
| 20:57.14 | Hachi_ | When the heat was let into the room, the shards melted |
| 20:57.15 | Hachi_ | Then Thevixuias appeared |
| 20:57.25 | Xho | Still dunno |
| 20:57.30 | OluapWorker | Gorf still |
| 20:57.32 | Xho | Chicken Mann |
| 20:57.34 | Hachi_ | ack |
| 20:58.15 | OluapWorker | Gorf in a chicken suit |
| 20:58.18 | OluapWorker | dere |
| 20:58.29 | Monet | Those shards WERE Thevixuias. |
| 20:58.40 | Catface | New section for my thing is coming tomorrow if everything goes well. |
| 20:58.54 | OluapWorker | I much prefer my theory |
| 20:58.58 | Xho | rite |
| 20:59.26 | Catface | I hope that makes people happy. |
| 21:00.56 | Xho | I was thinking some kind of demon god of some sort |
| 21:01.00 | Xho | u dun maek me confoos |
| 21:01.34 | Hachi_ | Well, Thevixuias is a sorta demonic demigoddess |
| 21:01.45 | Monet | Right now she's a bullet-proof Banshee-like ice mummy strong enough to knock a train off its rails and tear it wide open. |
| 21:02.06 | Hachi_ | She's still adjusting btw |
| 21:02.19 | Xho | Kithworto - get some skin and we can mingle |
| 21:02.36 | Monet | She does have scales. |
| 21:02.47 | Xho | Kithworto - moar skin |
| 21:02.58 | OluapWorker | Santorakh - MADE OF CHEEEEEEEEEEEESE |
| 21:03.08 | Xho | Kithworto - gtfo |
| 21:04.38 | Hachi_ | What do you guys think of Merdilla btw |
| 21:05.20 | Xho | Kithworto - bitch needs some speekin lessons |
| 21:07.54 | OluapWorker | http://i.imgur.com/2wRXb2l.jpg "I am the beginning. I am the end. I am the journey, and I am the destination. I have travelled far, far further than any other being has. I am not a creature any longer, I am a concept. I am the very essence of speed. I am fast. I am fast. I am fast." |
| 21:08.15 | Hachi_ | ohgodwat |
| 21:08.43 | Xho | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWAH4eDIcAEJJQh.jpg:large Santorakh the lake |
| 21:09.03 | Xho | OluapWorker: [terror intensifies] |
| 21:09.07 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 21:09.22 | Hachi_ | I wanna see dese fish |
| 21:10.27 | OluapWorker | Jesus, I just came across a ponified Minesweeper |
| 21:10.28 | Xho | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/Alcolapia_alcalica_2_-_Berlin_aquarium_-_20071102.jpg/800px-Alcolapia_alcalica_2_-_Berlin_aquarium_-_20071102.jpg Be very disappointed |
| 21:10.35 | OluapWorker | How do you even get the idea for that |
| 21:10.50 | Catface | Hachi_: http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/10/07/ghost-dave-grohl-release-covers-ep-listen-take-roky-ericksons-ghosts-now/ |
| 21:11.14 | OluapWorker | The fish on the left has a "imma rek u" face |
| 21:12.25 | OluapWorker | Nu invites Hachi to go swimming -> Lake Natron |
| 21:12.57 | Catface | Could I recon these to the Mirus Galaxy? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Hargia_Interplanetary_Republic |
| 21:13.27 | OluapWorker | You don't have to ask permission to work on your own fiction |
| 21:13.56 | Catface | I just wanted to make sure. |
| 21:14.12 | Catface | Don't wanna get nagged at. |
| 21:15.09 | Xho | Nu - i ain't even amd |
| 21:15.10 | Xho | *mad |
| 21:15.35 | Catface | If you have ghost; you have everything. |
| 21:18.09 | OluapWorker | Monet finish coding Tarefnar nao |
| 21:18.10 | OluapWorker | And ded |
| 21:18.14 | OluapWorker | scuttles away |
| 21:19.11 | Hachi_ | Xho: dum u got Ratamahatta stuck in mah hed nao |
| 21:19.27 | Xho | It's a great song u dum |
| 21:20.30 | Catface | ROOTS |
| 21:20.33 | Catface | BLOODY ROOTS |
| 21:21.04 | Hachi_ | https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1381803_632780256762800_1186763901_n.jpg wat i haz to sey to ur sepultra |
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| 21:21.59 | Xho | Hachi_: The pain |
| 21:46.12 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 21:54.02 | Aeo | ~wake up Monet |
| 21:54.02 | infobot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up Monet and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
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| 21:54.07 | Zmr56 | Hi there |
| 21:54.10 | Aeo | hi |
| 21:55.58 | Monet | Hm? |
| 21:56.25 | Aeo | Monet: Read my PMs |
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| 22:01.25 | Zmr56 | Hi |
| 22:07.15 | Tek0516 | hey |
| 22:14.41 | Monet | I'm starting to feel like having an istitution of slavery, any form, in the DI was a dumbmove. |
| 22:16.57 | Monet | No matter how civil I make it I feel like i'm getting criticised for it, for one because they're a rare occasion where "hey we're not evil but we still own people" |
| 22:19.05 | Aeo | There is no civil enough. |
| 22:20.22 | Monet | That's what I tried to prove wrong...maybe. |
| 22:21.03 | Aeo | If you find yourself unable to pull it off, just do an abolition arc and be done with it. |
| 22:21.03 | Hachi_ | Old, unnecessary arguement is old |
| 22:21.23 | Hachi_ | Oh and unnecssary |
| 22:22.00 | Aeo | OR have something happen to arrange that slavery is absolutely unavoidable and everyone including the slaves accepts this. |
| 22:22.17 | Aeo | And with that I must go |
| 22:22.22 | Aeo | I'll be back soon |
| 22:22.30 | Hachi_ | Idiot |
| 22:23.31 | Monet | So far only Spriggs has seen any good side to the Imperium's policies. |
| 22:24.17 | Zmr56 | Monet: Can slaves be lifted from their slave status in any way? |
| 22:24.57 | Monet | Zmr56: I suppose there's nothing stopping an owner giving their slaves freedom |
| 22:26.01 | Hachi_ | I don't get why he's so asshurt about it |
| 22:27.19 | Monet | He probably visualises it a bit too vividly. |
| 22:28.15 | Zmr56 | I really have no qualms with this slavery thing |
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| 22:30.24 | Monet | Well at least not everyone hates it. |
| 22:30.35 | Tybusen | Hello |
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| 22:31.37 | Hachi_ | I say it builds culture |
| 22:32.05 | Aeondroid | What did I miss? |
| 22:32.24 | Tybusen | What do you call it when British people come to play at your golf course |
| 22:32.46 | Tybusen | A tea time tee time |
| 22:33.02 | Tybusen | What do you call a British seesaw |
| 22:33.09 | Monet | I have felt like retonning away the entire slavery thing. |
| 22:33.18 | Tybusen | A teater totter |
| 22:33.36 | Hachi_ | Monet: Don't |
| 22:33.38 | Tybusen | What do you call it when a British guy becomes a extremist Republican |
| 22:33.43 | Aeondroid | I fully support such a measure |
| 22:34.05 | Hachi_ | Keep the slavery thing, it builds Imperial culture |
| 22:34.28 | Aeondroid | But its effects is negative |
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| 22:34.30 | Tybusen | dammit someone give me an answer |
| 22:35.14 | Hachi_ | It provides the fiction with interest and actually makes sense for the Imperium really considering it has/had a conquistador-like philosophy |
| 22:35.16 | Aeondroid | You can always replace it with a new element of DI culture |
| 22:35.46 | Tybusen | Monet: Keep the slavery thing, it's an interesting thing for DI culture |
| 22:36.10 | Aeondroid | You could also have a story about the abolition |
| 22:36.25 | Hachi_ | lol |
| 22:36.27 | Hachi_ | Except no |
| 22:36.38 | Hachi_ | Don't get rid of it Monet, it's a silly idea |
| 22:36.49 | Aeondroid | No it's not |
| 22:36.52 | DrodoEmpire | Aeon: At this point the DI couldn't abolish slavery, too much of its economy depends on slavery |
| 22:36.55 | Monet | Part of my reason is I've tried my best to effectively say "No. This is nothing like the 17th-century slave trade" |
| 22:37.25 | Hachi_ | And you've succeeded |
| 22:37.30 | Aeondroid | No |
| 22:37.32 | Hachi_ | It's just some people can't see that |
| 22:37.48 | DrodoEmpire | I didn't see it, but at the same time I haven't read as much into the DI. :P |
| 22:37.55 | Aeondroid | Its better, but not better enough |
| 22:38.01 | Tybusen | I'm fine with the Draconid slavery because you've made it distinct from the 17th-century human slave trade |
| 22:38.29 | Hachi_ | I always liked your little slave-orientated stories, it shows how the quality of life for a DI slave isn't that bad really and allows for an interesting take on perspective |
| 22:38.44 | Aeondroid | No it doesn't. |
| 22:38.46 | DrodoEmpire | Plus its been established for a long time; to retcon all of that would be pretty daunting. |
| 22:38.48 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 22:38.51 | Hachi_ | Shut up Aeo, go away |
| 22:39.14 | Hachi_ | If you don't have anything constructive to say, stay out of the conversation |
| 22:39.15 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi's blunt, but yeah, Aeo. |
| 22:39.16 | Aeondroid | DI slavery is clearly shown to be a crappy life |
| 22:39.27 | Hachi_ | And don't tell me what does and doesn't interest me |
| 22:39.29 | DrodoEmpire | You've been saying the same thing for a while now/ |
| 22:39.49 | Tybusen | Aeondroid: What you need to understand before you begin to debate this is that if every fiction was like an idealized Western society, the Fictionverse would be very boring |
| 22:40.06 | DrodoEmpire | But DI economy depends on it, Aeo. |
| 22:40.22 | Hachi_ | All I see you do is demoralize and try to convert Monet to your "idealistic" view on alien civilizations |
| 22:40.27 | DrodoEmpire | Whether you like it or not, people have different opinions, Aeo. |
| 22:41.04 | DrodoEmpire | Either consider others' views or shut your mouth, Aeon. |
| 22:41.30 | Monet | I wouldn't say dependant, given there's a huge automated industry, but I'm having trouble visualising what would happen if they gave the slavery thing up. |
| 22:41.42 | Hachi_ | A lot of unhappy Houses |
| 22:41.48 | DrodoEmpire | There's be civil unrest |
| 22:41.48 | Hachi_ | And a lot of unemployed aliens |
| 22:41.53 | DrodoEmpire | That too |
| 22:41.56 | Tybusen | It's essentially like the Southern US all over again |
| 22:42.12 | Zmr56 | Look the slavery is fine. Its what I like about the DI |
| 22:42.36 | DrodoEmpire | And if we where to get rid of it, then everything would be disrupted in the DI. |
| 22:42.45 | DrodoEmpire | Think of things REALISTICALLY, Aeo |
| 22:43.19 | Tybusen | Abolition is not simply just "snap your fingers and it's gone", even the British abolition movement had a large number of hurdles to get over |
| 22:43.31 | Monet | A lot of unhappy houses hmm...given the power they tend to wield we could end up with a Third House War. |
| 22:43.45 | Hachi_ | I imagine that if slavery was abolished, you'd have a lot of aliens who don't have residence, career and other things they get as serfs |
| 22:44.01 | Hachi_ | Besides, nothing beneficial as a whole would come out of an abolition |
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| 22:44.15 | Aeo | Did I miss anything? |
| 22:44.30 | Aeo | Sorry, my phone disconnected when I got home. |
| 22:44.34 | DrodoEmpire | [19:42] <DrodoEmpire> And if we where to get rid of it, then everything would be disrupted in the DI. [19:42] <DrodoEmpire> Think of things REALISTICALLY, Aeo [19:43] <Tybusen> Abolition is not simply just "snap your fingers and it's gone", even the British abolition movement had a large number of hurdles to get over [19:43] <Monet> A lot of unhappy houses hmm...given the power they tend to wield we could end up with a Third |
| 22:44.44 | DrodoEmpire | [19:43] <Hachi_> I imagine that if slavery was abolished, you'd have a lot of aliens who don't have residence, career and other things they get as serfs |
| 22:45.10 | Monet | A Third House War* |
| 22:45.10 | Aeo | Well, there's no need to do it instantly. |
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| 22:45.20 | Hachi_ | There's no need to do it at all |
| 22:45.23 | DrodoEmpire | Instantly or gradually, you'll face the same problems. |
| 22:46.29 | Tybusen | In the South, abolition had no traction, now imagine having the entire country accepting it |
| 22:46.49 | DrodoEmpire | Things don't all turn out perfectly, nor is your opinion or view of the world "perfect" |
| 22:46.51 | Aeo | I can see that point. That might be a reason to retcon it, or else you could have Uriel come to the conclusion that it's bad, but that the process of getting rid of it, and all of the culture that would needed to be influenced, and the economics altered, would take a long time. |
| 22:47.13 | Hachi_ | There's no reason to retcon it. At all. |
| 22:47.14 | DrodoEmpire | And it would be long, damaging, chaotic, and may end in bloodshed. |
| 22:47.17 | Hachi_ | Or get rid of it. At all. |
| 22:47.27 | DrodoEmpire | Is that the price you'd like to pay? |
| 22:47.38 | DrodoEmpire | And perhaps CENTURIES of suffering? |
| 22:47.38 | Aeo | Except that it's a nearly ireedeemable evil |
| 22:47.40 | Monet | So...I either compltely retcon it or drive the Imperium into a very nasty civil war |
| 22:47.48 | Hachi_ | Besides, why would Uriel think that it's bad if he's grown up with it as a societal norm? |
| 22:48.01 | DrodoEmpire | Except that you have your head up your own ass, Aeo. |
| 22:48.14 | Aeo | He's been exposed to abolitionism. It's not like he's never heard of it. |
| 22:48.28 | Hachi_ | He has no reason to do it himself though |
| 22:48.39 | Aeo | And if he's open minded it should be possible for him to arrive at abolitionist conclusions. |
| 22:48.42 | DrodoEmpire | I don't like it either, but I accept that for such a large, ancient empire, it would be incredibly painful and difficult to abolish it. |
| 22:49.06 | DrodoEmpire | And how do you know the end result will be any better? |
| 22:49.27 | DrodoEmpire | At least these aliens are employed, and doing something as slaves. |
| 22:49.35 | Tybusen | Slavery is an irredeemable evil, but that's only to us |
| 22:49.40 | Hachi_ | ^ |
| 22:49.47 | Hachi_ | Aliens. Important detail there. |
| 22:49.48 | DrodoEmpire | As free people, who's to say they'll live better? |
| 22:49.49 | Tybusen | To the Draconis, it's perfectly acceptable and you have no right to judge |
| 22:49.50 | Aeo | WE ARE THE AUDIENCE |
| 22:49.50 | Monet | Aeo: Or he tried to be open minded but realised "this could destroy the imperium" |
| 22:50.03 | Tybusen | The audience has no right to judge alien ideals |
| 22:50.08 | Aeo | Yes it does |
| 22:50.17 | Hachi_ | Get your head out of your ass |
| 22:50.17 | DrodoEmpire | No it doesn't. |
| 22:50.24 | Tybusen | By trying to force the Draconis into abolition, in fact you're the one being close-minded |
| 22:50.43 | Tybusen | If you were open-minded then you would accept that the Draconis are alien and have different ideals from us |
| 22:50.43 | Aeo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70noDGi40Ak I made an entire video about this topic. |
| 22:50.57 | Aeo | About how one can morally judge aliens. |
| 22:51.39 | Hachi_ | You can judge them but they have just as much right to judge you |
| 22:51.58 | Tybusen | Aeo: It doesn't even have to be alien. Do we judge the Chinese because they eat dogs? No. |
| 22:51.58 | Hachi_ | For all you know, eating chocolate or keeping non-sapients as pet is treacherous and inexcusable |
| 22:52.07 | Aeo | Monet: Perhaps he could be open minded, realize it would destroy the imperium, and then, from then on, experience a lingering regret that he can't abolish slavery as he does what little he possibly can to make it better. |
| 22:52.26 | Hachi_ | Or just think "nah I'll continue being the pimp I am" |
| 22:52.31 | Tybusen | Aeo: That would be being open-minded only to Western ideals, which would be close-minded by definition |
| 22:52.37 | Aeo | We do, however, judge the Chinese for forcing abortions and persecuting religious minorities |
| 22:52.46 | Hachi_ | I don't personally |
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| 22:52.54 | Hachi_ | It's their stuff, doesn't concen me |
| 22:52.58 | DrodoEmpire | Its there country, there adminstration. |
| 22:53.29 | Tybusen | I don't necessarily agree with the way the Chinese government handles the country but they have their reasons, at least for the abortion thing |
| 22:53.30 | DrodoEmpire | Unless the Chinese start launching missiles at Canada, all I think is "sucks to be them" |
| 22:53.44 | DrodoEmpire | They have there reasons anyway. |
| 22:53.52 | Aeo | Congradulations Drodo: You're a fucking monster. |
| 22:53.57 | Hachi_ | Get out |
| 22:54.05 | Tybusen | And besides, America is infamous for persecuting religious minorities itself in the past |
| 22:54.09 | DrodoEmpire | Shut the hell up, Aeo. |
| 22:54.11 | DrodoEmpire | Get out. |
| 22:54.16 | Monet | I wouldn't call living in a double-glazed house with central heating a "crappy lifestyle" |
| 22:54.16 | DrodoEmpire | Don't you dare insult me. |
| 22:54.20 | Hachi_ | Like, umm, oh I dunno... Crusades? |
| 22:54.27 | Tybusen | Mormons. |
| 22:54.27 | Aeo | I'm sorry for the insult. |
| 22:54.41 | DrodoEmpire | You better be. |
| 22:54.51 | Tybusen | Aeo: You know when you start slinging dirt like that, you instantly lose the argument |
| 22:54.55 | Hachi_ | I don't see why Uriel would even think that abolition would be acceptable; the serfs have enough freedom as it is |
| 22:54.58 | Aeo | Monet: Then do something to make it clear that they aren't misurable. |
| 22:54.58 | DrodoEmpire | Now get your sorry ass outta here before you offend anyone else, alright? |
| 22:55.20 | Aeo | No. |
| 22:55.37 | Hachi_ | They're, well, slaves for a reason. Course life isn't gonna be that great, but it isn't going to be that horrific either |
| 22:55.42 | Tybusen | DrodoEmpire: He has a right to stay on here as long as he doesn't insult anyone else |
| 22:55.47 | Aeo | I don't see why you guys are so bothered by my not liking an aspect of Monet's fiction and him thinking about changing it. |
| 22:56.01 | DrodoEmpire | You're the one arguing it, smartass. |
| 22:56.06 | Hachi_ | Because you're constantly enforcing it |
| 22:56.13 | Tybusen | Aeo: It's because your argument for changing it is very close-minded |
| 22:56.24 | Hachi_ | I don't understand why you're so asshurt about it in the first place |
| 22:56.40 | Monet | All I see from Aeo's PoV is that your complaint is they're not free citizens |
| 22:56.54 | DrodoEmpire | And who the fuck's to say they'd live any better being "free"? |
| 22:56.57 | Tybusen | The same Western ideals that denounce slavery now were the same ones being abused by slaveholders to uphold slavery in the past |
| 22:57.12 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps they won't have jobs, or a home. |
| 22:57.23 | Tybusen | DrodoEmpire: To support that point, case in point, blacks in the South post-Reconstruction |
| 22:57.25 | Aeo | No, it's that they FEEL the misury of being property and of knowing that they will forever be oppressed. You seemed to be deliberately conveying that in memoirs. |
| 22:57.37 | Hachi_ | Well, yeah |
| 22:57.40 | Hachi_ | They're serfs |
| 22:57.42 | Hachi_ | They're slaves |
| 22:57.43 | DrodoEmpire | In my opinion, food and shelter is just a bit more important then being free |
| 22:57.49 | Hachi_ | They're not gonna be happy about it |
| 22:57.51 | Tybusen | Aeo: Read up on American history, tell me how blacks fared after Reconstruction |
| 22:58.20 | Aeo | Of course it wouldn't be perfect, but the plot marches on. |
| 22:58.30 | Hachi_ | But |
| 22:58.34 | Tybusen | Are you listening to me, Aeo? |
| 22:58.42 | Hachi_ | So wait |
| 22:58.42 | DrodoEmpire | I'm done with you, Aeo. |
| 22:58.56 | Aeo | Because I disagree with you? |
| 22:59.06 | Hachi_ | You're saying it isn't perfect now |
| 22:59.07 | Hachi_ | But you're okay with it being... not perfect afterward? |
| 22:59.15 | Hachi_ | I... I don't... |
| 22:59.25 | Aeo | It'd still be better afterward. I'm okay with it not being perfect. |
| 22:59.26 | Tybusen | Then why try to fix what's not broken? |
| 22:59.34 | Aeo | The Aeoneonatrix are not perfect. |
| 22:59.37 | Hachi_ | Exactly, Tybusen's right |
| 22:59.42 | Aeo | It is broken. |
| 22:59.43 | Hachi_ | Don't fix what isn't broken |
| 23:00.09 | Tybusen | If it were broken, the Imperium wouldn't be at the height it is now |
| 23:00.31 | Hachi_ | It suits the Imperium personally, it makes sense for the high-class to possess serfs or slaves or whatever you wanna call them. |
| 23:00.42 | Monet | I feel extremely guilty now. |
| 23:00.47 | Hachi_ | No, don't |
| 23:00.48 | DrodoEmpire | Don;t. |
| 23:00.50 | Aeo | Then don't try to make the DI into heroes. |
| 23:00.53 | Hachi_ | It isn't your fault |
| 23:00.58 | DrodoEmpire | Aeo's just being a Narrow-minded idiot. |
| 23:01.02 | Tybusen | Aeo: Get out |
| 23:01.04 | DrodoEmpire | Pardon my bluntness. |
| 23:01.22 | Monet | I felt dragged down by the PoV of people like Aeo and now we're all shouting at each other. |
| 23:01.29 | Aeo | I'm narrow minded for thinking characters should be sympathetic? |
| 23:01.33 | Hachi_ | More accurately, we're shouting at Aeo |
| 23:01.33 | Tybusen | Yes. |
| 23:01.41 | Tybusen | Aeo: That's exactly it |
| 23:01.57 | Tybusen | Characters do not need to be sympathetic |
| 23:02.10 | Aeo | I have only once insulted any of you. This anger is due entirely to my persistantly disagreeing with you for a reason they don't like |
| 23:02.12 | Tybusen | Anti-heroes are popular for a reason |
| 23:02.21 | Monet | Aeo: Heroes aren't perfect. George Patton was merciless, Richard I claimed fame on top of a mountain of Sarecan corpses |
| 23:02.27 | Aeo | Anti-heroes still need to be and usually are sympathetic |
| 23:02.35 | Hachi_ | Winston Churchill was a warlord |
| 23:02.35 | Tybusen | No |
| 23:02.44 | DrodoEmpire | Aeo, go. |
| 23:03.03 | DrodoEmpire | You're continuing an arguement that no one wants to argue about. |
| 23:03.08 | Aeo | I'm trying to take this to PMs with Monet |
| 23:03.16 | Hachi_ | No, leave him alone for fuck's sake |
| 23:03.21 | Hachi_ | You've done enough damage |
| 23:03.40 | DrodoEmpire | Now, Aeo, do everyone a favour, GO AWAY |
| 23:04.08 | DrodoEmpire | You're condesending, narrow-minded, and no one likes your little debates. |
| 23:04.17 | DrodoEmpire | I. for one, am done with you. |
| 23:04.34 | Aeo | My debates have been avoidable as of late |
| 23:04.47 | Aeo | This one happened to find it's way into the main chat. |
| 23:05.02 | DrodoEmpire | Keep your goddamn thoughts to yourself. |
| 23:05.16 | Tybusen | Aeo: You brought this to the main chat yourself |
| 23:05.22 | Monet | Because I wanted to know if it was only Hachi who saw the positives of the DI's slave system |
| 23:05.24 | Aeo | No I didn't |
| 23:05.45 | Hachi_ | I'd say the DI serfdom system is doing plenty of favours |
| 23:05.49 | Hachi_ | It could always be worse |
| 23:06.05 | DrodoEmpire | If this is the type of reaction people will have to your debates, keep your thoughts to yourself, you're doing anyone a favour with this pointless debate |
| 23:06.12 | DrodoEmpire | *You'[re not doing |
| 23:06.28 | Aeo | Other people don't have this reaction. |
| 23:06.32 | Tybusen | Or, at the very least, learn to be a better debater |
| 23:06.45 | DrodoEmpire | Uhm... Yeah, you've pissed everyone else off. |
| 23:07.02 | Aeo | I have no idea what I could do differwently that wouldn't have that effec. |
| 23:07.04 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not the only one here that's fed-up with your bullshit. |
| 23:07.14 | Tybusen | Aeo: Try being open-minded for once |
| 23:07.17 | DrodoEmpire | Here's an idea, |
| 23:07.17 | Aeo | #DISlavery |
| 23:07.20 | DrodoEmpire | SHUT UP. |
| 23:07.35 | DrodoEmpire | Don't bring it up in the first place |
| 23:07.41 | Monet | So far I have not encountered a single comment from you Aeo where you see a constructive point about the slave system. |
| 23:08.07 | Aeo | Because I've been warding off three people's personal attacks |
| 23:08.08 | Hachi_ | The serfs are employed, they're kept off the streets and are made use of, they are given the necessities that they need to survive, they possess a residence of their own as well as their cultural integrity and community |
| 23:08.40 | Tybusen | The goal of a debate is not to bash the side you're not on, it's to consider the other side's arguments to help you better understand your own |
| 23:09.07 | Hachi_ | Personally, I don't see why Uriel would think "oh no, serfdom is baaad" because it's doing a lot of good for both parties |
| 23:09.15 | Aeo | They are being held back, cannot reasonably be more than common chattel. They cannot acheive self-fulfillment because if they demonstrated talent they'd be considered traitors |
| 23:09.28 | Tybusen | Aeo: Who said anything about that? |
| 23:09.32 | DrodoEmpire | Where'd you hear of this? |
| 23:09.37 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, I know, NO WHERE! |
| 23:09.55 | Aeo | Monet: PLEASE can this go to PMs or the chat I set up? |
| 23:10.03 | DrodoEmpire | Read up on the subject before you start spouting crap about. |
| 23:10.05 | Hachi_ | Aeo, just leave him alone |
| 23:10.06 | DrodoEmpire | *about it |
| 23:10.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, Aeo, really. |
| 23:10.28 | Aeo | It's simple logic. That's what has happened with human slaveyr. |
| 23:10.35 | DrodoEmpire | You're bugging him to no end, he's already said he feels bad about the whole thing] |
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| 23:10.40 | Aeo | And DI slavery is not magically different. |
| 23:10.44 | DrodoEmpire | THESE AREN'T HUMANS |
| 23:10.52 | DrodoEmpire | It can be. |
| 23:11.07 | DrodoEmpire | Stop being a narrow-minded brat. |
| 23:11.12 | Tybusen | Aeo: If you think I'm personally attacking you, just know I'm typically the last person to fire off personal shots, so either you better realize you're dug into some deep shit or you're trying to frame my rationale as a personal attack |
| 23:11.18 | Monet_ | Can someone PM/Pastie what I missed? Last thing I saw was Hachi listing the good points of DI slavery |
| 23:11.31 | DrodoEmpire | Your wasting my, and everyone else's time. |
| 23:11.45 | Hachi_ | It's just Aeo being shouted at some more, not worth pastying |
| 23:11.46 | Tybusen | >DI slavery is not magically different |
| 23:11.49 | Tybusen | Yeah it is |
| 23:12.06 | Aeo | [18:09] <Aeo> They are being held back, cannot reasonably be more than common chattel. They cannot acheive self-fulfillment because if they demonstrated talent they'd be considered traitors |
| 23:13.22 | Aeo | I'm sorry that none of you people can tolerate someone holding the views I do. |
| 23:13.31 | Tybusen | That's not it. |
| 23:13.34 | Hachi_ | Except you're enforcing them |
| 23:13.38 | Hachi_ | Like seriously |
| 23:13.41 | Aeo | "Enforcing?" |
| 23:13.42 | Tybusen | It's that YOU can't tolerate people holding views other than your own |
| 23:14.12 | Aeo | What makes you think I can't? |
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| 23:14.16 | Hachi_ | Umm |
| 23:14.18 | Hachi_ | This arguement |
| 23:14.43 | Aeo | It's not about me being intolorant, I'm just trying to give MOnet advice. |
| 23:14.51 | Hachi_ | Monet doesn't need advice |
| 23:14.55 | Hachi_ | The DI is fine how it is |
| 23:14.58 | DrodoEmpire | Especially from you. |
| 23:14.59 | Aeo | Now, Monet please can we take this to somewhere where it can be calm. |
| 23:15.00 | Tybusen | We've presented rational counterpoints to your points, your only argument is "it doesn't agree with my close-minded Western values" |
| 23:15.09 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:15.30 | Aeo | YOU HAVE NOT PRESENTED A SINGLE THING EXCEPT CALLING ME NARROW MINDED AND SAYING IT"S NOT THAT BAD WHICH IS FALSE |
| 23:15.30 | DrodoEmpire | I, for one, am at the end of my rope with you Aeo. |
| 23:15.38 | DrodoEmpire | Just, go. |
| 23:15.44 | Aeo | No. |
| 23:15.45 | Monet_ | I'm tired of Aeo looking at the DI with a Western human viewpoint. |
| 23:15.58 | Aeo | As opposed to what? |
| 23:16.12 | Aeo | Am I supposed to just not care about the suffering slaves? |
| 23:16.21 | Tybusen | Aeo: Yeah we have. We talked about its economic repurcussions, while you've talked about how it's bad by Western standards |
| 23:16.24 | Aeo | Not think less o Uriel for doing that to them? |
| 23:16.28 | DrodoEmpire | How do you know they're "suffereing" |
| 23:16.30 | DrodoEmpire | *? |
| 23:16.37 | DrodoEmpire | *"suffering" |
| 23:16.41 | Tybusen | DI slaves are hardly suffering |
| 23:16.44 | Hachi_ | "Suffering" |
| 23:16.58 | Tybusen | They're suffering just as much as maybe the lower middle class of America right now |
| 23:16.59 | Hachi_ | They have a lot more freedom than the slaves of the 17th century |
| 23:17.22 | Aeo | It is slavery. They are and no doubt feel opressed. they are in a position where they cannot accomplish their potential and are forever doomed to be property. |
| 23:17.35 | Hachi_ | And? |
| 23:17.41 | Hachi_ | This is fiction |
| 23:17.44 | Tybusen | See, you're too narrow-minded to even consider slavery is nothing but the kind we saw in the 17th century |
| 23:17.57 | Aeo | No |
| 23:18.04 | DrodoEmpire | YEAH! |
| 23:18.06 | Aeo | I understand that DI slavery is better |
| 23:18.11 | Aeo | It's not good enough |
| 23:18.20 | Hachi_ | Good enough "for who"? |
| 23:18.20 | DrodoEmpire | "It's not good enough". |
| 23:18.29 | Tybusen | Good enough by whose standards? |
| 23:18.33 | Monet_ | "I'm not like all thise upper middle class people so my life is shit. Why? Becuase i've been given the title "slave"" |
| 23:18.55 | DrodoEmpire | And there, you prove for all of us to see that you believe that you have a VERY narrow view of Morals and standards. |
| 23:19.13 | Aeo | And because you are OWNED as PROPERTY. Surely that makes you question your own personhood and existance and feel opressed |
| 23:19.23 | Tybusen | Not necessarily |
| 23:19.29 | Hachi_ | Well nobody *wants* to be a slave |
| 23:19.35 | Hachi_ | But you cannot deny they have it easy |
| 23:19.40 | Hachi_ | From an outside view, at least |
| 23:19.41 | Aeo | Look, we need to calm this down. |
| 23:19.48 | Aeo | it's getting flamy |
| 23:19.49 | Monet_ | Aeo: technically until you are 18 you are owned by your parents, do you see every child ever complaining? |
| 23:19.57 | Tybusen | You're the one who started using all-caps, Aeo |
| 23:20.00 | Aeo | That's false |
| 23:20.06 | DrodoEmpire | You insulted ME. |
| 23:20.10 | Aeo | Because you people angered me |
| 23:20.15 | Hachi_ | But |
| 23:20.19 | Hachi_ | You brought this shit here |
| 23:20.28 | Tybusen | A good debater doesn't let their emotions get to them |
| 23:20.28 | Aeo | Drodo: And you've done hardly anyhting but insult me |
| 23:20.31 | Hachi_ | You provoked us... to provoke you. |
| 23:20.45 | Aeo | #DISlavery |
| 23:20.46 | DrodoEmpire | Because YOU insulted ME. |
| 23:20.59 | Tybusen | We're not going on that slavery channel, Aeo |
| 23:21.06 | DrodoEmpire | In fact, you've done a lot of condesending bullshit to me before. |
| 23:21.14 | DrodoEmpire | I put up with it until recently |
| 23:21.16 | Tybusen | You've frustrated too many of us to let you try to hide from us now |
| 23:21.22 | Aeo | How about this: I make my case to Monet in PMs, let him consider it and then be done with it. |
| 23:21.34 | Hachi_ | How about he doesn't have to listen to your shit |
| 23:21.35 | DrodoEmpire | YOu should be glad I've put up with you for so long, "buddy". |
| 23:21.44 | Aeo | Ler him answer |
| 23:21.53 | DrodoEmpire | Give Monet, and the rest of us a break, Aeo |
| 23:22.05 | Tybusen | Stop bothering him. He, like the rest of us, are tired of your bullshit. |
| 23:22.15 | Aeo | I've only once insulted you: When you said you do not care about the opressed persons in the PRC |
| 23:22.29 | DrodoEmpire | I've actually read about China. |
| 23:22.49 | DrodoEmpire | Just because they don't have some privaledges as us does NOT make them "oppressed" |
| 23:22.52 | Aeo | I'm not going to say anything until Monet responds to me. |
| 23:23.00 | DrodoEmpire | YOu just did say something |
| 23:23.10 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, back to China, |
| 23:23.19 | Aeo | #Chinadebate |
| 23:23.30 | DrodoEmpire | Not joining your bullshit channel |
| 23:23.38 | Aeo | Then I'll ignore you. |
| 23:23.39 | Tybusen | I'll admit the human rights situation in China is bad by our standards but you shouldn't believe everything that the bleeding-hearts in the media force down your throat |
| 23:23.41 | Monet_ | I don't see any point in you making your case any further. |
| 23:23.42 | DrodoEmpire | There's a reason why they do the things they do, particularly with population control |
| 23:23.54 | Aeo | I've not had a chance to make my case, Monet_ |
| 23:23.55 | DrodoEmpire | What a debate tactic; The famed Wall of Ignorance. |
| 23:24.06 | Aeo | I've been busy warding off these three |
| 23:24.07 | Tybusen | If they didn't have the abortions, things would be so much worse for them anyways |
| 23:24.08 | Hachi_ | I think you've had plenty of chance Aeo |
| 23:24.26 | Monet_ | Aeo: You've been trying to make your case for months. |
| 23:24.28 | Tybusen | Aeo: "warding off" implies that you had a chance of winning |
| 23:24.28 | Hachi_ | I gave you beneficial aspects of serfdom; you ignored it |
| 23:24.32 | Aeo | Monet_ How about this: I'll make an Alikos Blog about it? |
| 23:24.37 | Hachi_ | No |
| 23:24.37 | Aeo | I addressed it |
| 23:24.41 | Hachi_ | Don't take this any further |
| 23:25.05 | Tybusen | The close-minded one always loses a debate |
| 23:25.08 | Aeo | Look, what way of holding any view other than the one you all share would not anger you? |
| 23:25.36 | Aeo | It seems like you're just angry that I disagree with you because I have no idea what I've done to provoke you. |
| 23:25.40 | Tybusen | It would be a start if you would actually consider our arguments and consider revisions to your stance based on the rationale we're giving you |
| 23:25.55 | Aeo | Okay then: Orderly present them. |
| 23:26.00 | Tybusen | We did. |
| 23:26.01 | Hachi_ | We did |
| 23:26.04 | Hachi_ | You ignored them |
| 23:26.09 | DrodoAway | Done with Aeo's bullshit for a bit, I'm taking a break |
| 23:26.17 | Tybusen | You ignored them, and that's why we're angry |
| 23:26.26 | Aeo | You said it would wreck the economy, and that the slaves would be out of a job? |
| 23:26.42 | Tybusen | Yes. |
| 23:26.45 | Aeo | And that it'd cause a civil war, and that morality doesn't apply to aliens? |
| 23:26.52 | Hachi_ | Fuck this |
| 23:26.55 | Hachi_ | I'm going to sleep |
| 23:27.05 | Monet_ | Don't bring morality into this... |
| 23:27.07 | Hachi_ | I can't be assed to deal with your pro-human zealousy |
| 23:27.16 | Tybusen | OUR morality doesn't apply to aliens |
| 23:27.31 | Hachi_ | Humans are just as disgusting as any alien whose culture you'd spit on |
| 23:27.39 | Tybusen | And it COULD cause a civil war, keyword COULD |
| 23:27.45 | Aeo | Okay then |
| 23:28.00 | Monet_ | The only thing right now keeping me from screaming is my Immediate album. |
| 23:28.13 | Aeo | Okay then, I'll stop for now |
| 23:28.22 | Aeo | I had no idea you were that frustrated, Monet_ |
| 23:28.28 | Hachi_ | ... |
| 23:28.31 | Hachi_ | I can't even |
| 23:28.52 | Tybusen | Aeo: Don't start shit like this again until you've learned how to listen. |
| 23:29.07 | DrodoAway | Better yet, don't start shit like this again. EVER. |
| 23:29.19 | Monet_ | Aeo: You and Irsk, on and on "abolish slavery, slavery is bad, those aliens don't deserve any of it" |
| 23:30.01 | Hachi_ | Monet: Since I'll be going soon, I'll just say this; don't go changing your fiction for him. You don't need to go change your fiction for anybody. You don't need to take his "advice" or "criticism", he doesn't control you or your fiction. You're not there to "please the audience", you're here to be free to write about whatever the hell you wanna write about |
| 23:30.26 | Monet_ | You piss off the dragon, he crushes under his mighty feet. That's how reality works. |
| 23:30.32 | Monet_ | crushes you* |
| 23:30.43 | Aeo | I'm sorry I've angered you. |
| 23:31.06 | Aeo | I can't read your facial expressions over the computer and was under the impression you were not very bothered by this. |
| 23:31.15 | DrodoAway | ... |
| 23:31.20 | DrodoAway | ...I won't even comment. |
| 23:31.24 | Aeo | Well, not anywhere near as upset as it's clear you are now. |
| 23:31.28 | Aeo | I'm sorry for that |
| 23:31.55 | Tybusen | Aeo: Protip: When people start throwing around the word "shit", you'd better believe you're in deep shit. |
| 23:33.09 | Aeo | To be clear: I was attributing Drodo and Hachi's upsetness to their usual trends which usually calm down quickly. |
| 23:33.20 | Aeo | As in, this is how they normally react to me |
| 23:33.33 | DrodoAway | Don't piss us off in the first place. |
| 23:33.42 | DrodoAway | Understood? |
| 23:34.14 | Aeo | DrodoAway: I don't think that's possible. |
| 23:34.16 | Aeo | In your case |
| 23:34.17 | Hachi_ | Don't ever attribute me again |
| 23:34.21 | DrodoAway | It is. |
| 23:34.26 | DrodoAway | Don't call me a "monster". |
| 23:34.32 | Hachi_ | Don't classify me, don't organize me, don't assume my actions |
| 23:34.36 | DrodoAway | And don't talk to me. |
| 23:34.40 | DrodoAway | And same goes for me. |
| 23:39.48 | DrodoEmpire | So I trust this whole debate has blown over? |
| 23:40.05 | DrodoEmpire | I take that as a yes. |
| 23:40.20 | DrodoEmpire | So, anything else interesting happen today? |
| 23:41.13 | Monet_ | Well...something interesting is stirring on Alcanti |
| 23:42.11 | DrodoEmpire | I see. |
| 23:42.53 | Monet_ | And by "interesting" I mean "threatens millions of lives" |
| 23:45.11 | Monet_ | Also Drodo aren't the only ones expanding in the quadrants |
| 23:45.11 | Hachi_ | Right, I'm gonna sleep |
| 23:45.16 | Hachi_ | Well, try anyway |
| 23:45.17 | Monet_ | Goodnight. |
| 23:46.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hm, |
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| 23:46.43 | DrodoEmpire | I do know of some others expanding into the Quadrants. |
| 23:47.30 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo hope to get some territories near the New Cyrannian Republic/Rambo Nation, but moreso stake there claim in the Unexplored Territories |
| 23:47.41 | Tybusen | *the TIAF silently builds up its fleets to invade the CyraEmp* |
| 23:48.25 | Monet_ | Prepare for a Cyrannian D-day |
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| 23:49.03 | Tybusen | TIAF - We saved everyone yeah! |
| 23:49.23 | Monet_ | "VC Day" |
| 23:49.36 | Tybusen | TIAF - *nukes Caprica* |
| 23:49.53 | Monet_ | Now all the TIAF needs is 200,000 PT-boat shaped starships. |
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| 23:52.10 | Monet_ | Was planning to design some new DI starships but it's late and today's events have worn me down so I think i'll head off to bed. |
| 23:52.13 | Tybusen | And they need a space English Channel |
| 23:56.50 | Monet_ | These new ships might end up straining the Imperium's industry in order to roll them out. It's a mssive RD&P order. |
| 23:58.20 | Tybusen | TIAF - *upgrades all the ships in their navy with no problem* |
| 23:58.58 | Monet_ | The Imperium could do that but these ships...not so much. |
| 23:59.32 | Monet_ | The idea is the new designs will be more compact; less crew, less materials, but attempts will be made to maximise firepower. |
| 23:59.48 | Monet_ | Like sticking hyperlasers/riftfire cannons on the boradside. |
| 23:59.52 | Monet_ | broadside* |
