IRC log for #sporewiki on 20131005

00:00.42Wormy_fictionsober Wormy is dum and tries to look more intelligent so he stays admin
00:07.20Monethttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/b/bf/CorruptedArsac_1.png better or worse than the original?
00:09.00HichiEh, preferred the old
00:09.23HichiThe old one really symbolized her demonic downfall
00:09.44MonetSo more demonic fatures?
00:09.48HichiWell
00:10.01HichiKeep the old design
00:10.15MonetI wasn't keen on the armour though
00:10.41HichiThen why not make her naked?
00:10.59HichiGive her horns and appendages coming out of her body
00:11.11MonetAh...slight problem with that
00:11.19MonetI'd need freedo mcheat
00:11.50HichiHmm, I just don't like the idea of armour on her
00:11.57HichiOld one was much better looking imo
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00:22.17DrodoEmpireHey
00:22.26Tek0516Hello
00:42.38Tek0516~test
00:42.38infobotfrom memory, test is not funny
00:45.01Tek0516I think some of the steam achievements are broken for this game...
00:45.42DrodoEmpireI see,
00:46.01DrodoEmpireI don't remember where you could buy IRC from Steam, though.
00:46.23DrodoEmpire;3
00:46.28DrodoEmpire*:3
00:48.20Tek0516-.-
01:02.06Tek0516http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/0/01/Ohkayna.png Not sure where/if I'll use this thing, but could have some purpose.
01:03.38DrodoEmpireI see
01:18.18WormyI only ended up writing a few lines hur
01:18.35Liquid_InkHurr
01:19.31HichiAeo: Do your Riffrex reviews dangit
01:22.00MonetFor some reason I find Riffex's present reviews a little too 4th wall breaking.
01:23.11HichiWell
01:23.16HichiThey're review
01:23.19Hichireviews*
01:24.42MonetYeah but he's basically using the page review to whine at the creator.
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01:31.12DrodoEmpireNot to revive a old debate, but I find them funny from time to time.
01:31.19HichiHai Oluap
01:31.23DrodoEmpireThe Riffrex Reviews, that is.
01:31.32HichiI do find them entertaining
01:31.33OluapPlayerhai king of dum
01:31.49HichiNot all the time, but when they're funny they can be pretty funny
01:31.51DrodoEmpireHowever I can't help but think that they focus on the wrong things, at least for the Tyranny.
01:31.58DrodoEmpireI agree,
01:34.48Wormyhello
01:35.47Wormyg2g bye
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01:44.26LawfulInsaneHello
01:44.35DrodoEmpireHi
01:54.16HichiOluapPlayer: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601596_340723906071056_285165008_n.jpg Nu vs Hachi
01:54.30OluapPlayerhur
01:54.56LawfulInsaneHichi? Spelling error?
01:55.48HichiNope, I'm being kawaii~
01:56.28LawfulInsane...
01:57.21LawfulInsaneNo offence, but I don't see how that can be kawaii. No offence. Sorry about this. Sorry.
02:04.04OluapPlayerHichi: http://i.imgur.com/GD9MQ5b.jpg Goomy's final evo
02:04.14HichiIt's adorable
02:04.16HichiI love Goomy
02:04.17HichiAdorable
02:04.59OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/glpNw6l.jpg and holy fuk
02:05.17Hichidafuq is dat
02:05.33OluapPlayerThe evolution of that brown seahorse
02:07.28LawfulInsanewut
02:11.24OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3arXxOvp7U I'm loving how this game is looking like
02:13.28HichiIt's comin out well
02:13.33Hichihuehuehue
02:14.22OluapPlayeri dun get it
02:14.46Hichi"It's coming out well"
02:14.49Hichi"Coming out"
02:14.51Hichi"Coming"
02:15.09OluapPlayereh
02:15.18OluapPlayerGo back to writing stuff hur
02:15.20Hichiforget dis
02:17.47OluapPlayerHichi: http://i.imgur.com/WAKOabc.jpg flowa powa
02:18.14HichiBadass Pikmin
02:18.33OluapPlayerThat reminds me of a character from Harvest Moon
02:18.59OluapPlayeralso c which evolution line is right before dem Pikmin
02:19.31HichiGardevoir and Pikmin
02:19.37HichiTwo of Oluap's favourite things
02:20.41OluapPlayerToo many Pokemon, not enough team space
02:21.10LawfulInsanewat dis
02:21.12HichiIs the team space still six?
02:21.35LawfulInsanewat dis
02:21.50HichiPokemon
02:21.59LawfulInsanePokemon wat
02:22.06HichiX and Y
02:22.10LawfulInsaneeh
02:22.36OluapPlayerYes
02:23.28LawfulInsaneMe when finding out about Mega Evolutions: fuk
02:29.38OluapPlayerHichi: http://i.imgur.com/kaXHOk6.jpg u havin a giggle
02:29.51Hichi"Aegislash"
02:29.55HichiCue Dota jokes
02:30.09OluapPlayerdam dis
02:30.23HichiLooks cute
02:30.30OluapPlayerYeah
02:30.53OluapPlayerOne guy said there's a MegaGallade too but there's no pics of it yet
02:31.01OluapPlayerDangit don't leave me hanging
02:31.09Hichihur
02:31.28HichiImagine of MegaGallade had a massive dong
02:31.29HichiAnd MegaGardevoir has big bewbs
02:31.53LawfulInsaneshitshitshit
02:32.02OluapPlayerMegaGallade - tis a sword
02:32.08Hichiohgod
02:36.05OluapPlayerHichi: http://i.imgur.com/yhf565F.jpg oooh shi
02:36.35HichiWell
02:36.41HichiYou know my response to this
02:37.03HichiIt looks like an Eggman robot, or a chess piece
02:37.19HichiOr a Mega Man enemy
02:37.28OluapPlayerAegisman is the final evolution of the swordmon
02:37.50OluapPlayerSword -> two swords -> sword and shield
02:38.05OluapPlayerI actually was expecting a shield-themed family but this is better
02:38.31HichiSpares more space for other, far more creative Pokemon hur
02:38.49HichiI don't mind a sword-looking Pokemon, but when you got such a ridiculous evolutionary line...
02:39.02OluapPlayerStop being such a downer hur
02:39.03LawfulInsanehur
02:39.14HichiI hope they make MegaDunsparce
02:40.34LawfulInsanewat would that look like
02:40.43HichiProbably still boring hur
02:42.50HichiOluapPlayer: I heard somebody wanted a MegaAlakazam
02:43.09OluapPlayerThat'd be OP as fuk
02:43.21OluapPlayerBut considering there's a MegaGarchomp and a MegaGyarados, I can see it happen
02:43.26LawfulInsaneI'm not that interested. But I'll listen in and say stuff.
02:43.42HichiIt's a shame it's only 12 Pokemon per generation
02:43.52HichiBut still, big number
02:44.20OluapPlayerEh?
02:44.53HichiI meant overall
02:44.59Hichi70 Megas
02:45.08OluapPlayerWhere did you hear that?
02:45.17HichiI thought u told me dis
02:45.24OluapPlayerNope
02:45.29Hichidum
02:46.11Hichihttp://i.imgur.com/eLZOaGF.jpg MegaGardevoir
02:46.26OluapPlayerjesus wat
02:46.39OluapPlayerXerneas' National Dex number is 715 apparently
02:47.04OluapPlayerConsidering Genesect is 649, that means there's a little more than 60 new Pokemon in Gen 6
02:47.13HichiWhoa wot
02:47.21LawfulInsanefuk dis
02:47.35LawfulInsaneI must read more carefully.
02:47.52HichiThis is... actually shocking
02:47.59LawfulInsaneDon't ask me why.
02:48.06OluapPlayerThough I don't blame them for not introducing so many new ones, since they changed old ones considerably
02:48.13HichiOh yeah that's true
02:48.18LawfulInsanehur
02:49.16OluapPlayerFocusing on old Pokemn when introducing these changers is a smart move. It makes the old ones feel new again
02:51.27OluapPlayerAccording to Kotaku, "encounters in cave routes are now confined to avoidable dark areas instead of throughout the entire area"
02:51.33OluapPlayerZubat's reign of terror is over
02:53.25OluapPlayerNow I'm off
03:30.28Tek0516Updated Farengeto Flag with 3D effects. http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/3/36/Farengeto_Flag_3D.png
03:32.21HichiNice
03:32.50Tek0516The circle might need a slight touch-up though.
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08:34.52Liquid_InkHello.
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09:06.17JepardiHi
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09:42.39ImpyDroidspu
09:59.10Liquid_InkhELLO
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11:00.22ImpyDroidhi Mon
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11:24.34ImperiosHi
11:24.39ImperiosXho: I found a theme for Kithworto
11:25.43Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37td7cCCiMU "Im/mortal", both the name and the tune kinda fit
11:25.58ImperiosYou may or may not ignore the video itself
11:36.43Imperios~kill someone
11:36.43infobotACTION shoots a charged graviton gun at someone
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11:49.04ImperiosHi
11:49.23OluapPlayerhi
11:52.52ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:GeltastraUncorrupted.png http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Raviegaurii.png
11:52.59ImperiosMade some updates to my Corruptus chars
11:55.06OluapPlayerOoh those are good
11:55.09OluapPlayerI like the new Raviegaurii
11:55.33ImperiosYou said I should make them more similar to Sevinma if I want them to be her spawn species
11:55.42ImperiosSo I gave them golden skin and red eyes
11:56.35XhoI hath returned
11:56.49ImperiosXho: [15:24] <Imperios> Xho: I found a theme for Kithworto [15:25] <Imperios> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37td7cCCiMU "Im/mortal", both the name and the tune kinda fit
11:57.37XhoRight so the metal is good
11:57.43XhoWhy is there pony picture
11:58.39OluapPlayerreturn of the spu
11:58.50XhoReturn of the me
11:59.01XhoMy Sims 3 doesn't save anymore
11:59.05XhoI am not happy at all
11:59.21OluapPlayerdum
12:00.51ImperiosXho: Because the sheer badassery of that song is so high that it had to be curbed by the picture of a purple unicorn so that the people listening to it wouldn't die instantly from its pure manliness energy
12:01.16XhoNow I'm just imagining a pony picture with Meshuggah
12:01.25XhoDoesn't work I tell you
12:01.44ImperiosSeriously though, the pony in question basically became a demigod in the third season finale
12:01.55ImperiosHence "immortal"
12:02.38XhoKithworto - DO I LOOK LIKE A PONY TO YOU
12:02.45ImperiosKithpony
12:03.31ImperiosMy Little Kithworto: The most popular show for little girls in the Kicathian Remnants
12:03.32OluapPlayerNu - ye
12:03.47Xhogeezush
12:13.01ImperiosBanned in the rest of the Gigaquadrant for being too violent
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12:16.36WormyHello
12:16.42Liquid_InkIt's a Wormy
12:17.10WormyIt's a Ink.
12:17.45ImperiosOkay
12:18.30Xhoan*
12:19.19XhoAs a random fact, I was tempted to make Caligaduro as the model for Superbia
12:21.16OluapPlayerhur
12:21.50OluapPlayerCaligaduro - IM DE BEST
12:21.54ImperiosCaligaduro - Screw you fantasyverse, I'm leaving
12:22.44Monethttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198037756929/screenshot/902135452871128018 Team SporeWIki!
12:23.11OluapPlayerhoh
12:23.33MonetI like Oluap's character's nickname the most.
12:23.37ImperiosI iz suport
12:23.39WormySets fire to Team SporeWiki
12:23.48OluapPlayerIt's my real name yes
12:23.50WormyI was ordered by Liquid Ink
12:24.20MonetActually i intentionally changed the real nmes and kept the nicknames
12:24.30OluapPlayerCaligaSuperbia is made, meets fictionverse Harbinger -> "wait I thought i left the fantasyverse"
12:25.26MonetSince that picture was taken, LotG gained the nickname "Viking" and I think Xho gained the nickname "Zitch"
12:25.42OluapPlayeru a zitch spu
12:26.22MonetXCOM-Oluap's nickname is still funniest
12:27.11MonetSince DOA = Dead On Arrival
12:27.18OluapPlayer:C
12:27.40OluapPlayery i die on arrival dats hachi's job
12:27.54MonetOh wait i'm stoopid
12:27.59MonetDOA means "Dead or Alive"
12:28.17OluapPlayerThat's better
12:29.28MonetBut nah in official military jargon "DOA" means Dead on Arrival.
12:29.47MonetAlso your guy's Spanish.
12:29.53Xhohoh
12:30.14OluapPlayerndfhfngh
12:30.22OluapPlayerOlé I guess
12:31.17MonetThe team nationalities are...not entirely accurate
12:31.29ImperiosMonet: Hm?
12:32.15MonetIn my game Oluap is Spanish, Impeiros is Chinese, Xho is Nigerian and LotG is American.
12:32.24Monetinsesetive.wav
12:32.25XhoApparently I have taken 4290 pictures on Gmod
12:33.59OluapPlayerget a life hur
12:34.55MonetXho: Since taking that picture, you now have the best guns on the team.
12:35.06MonetLaser shotgun & laser pistol
12:35.08XhoKabwaaaah
12:36.12MonetCookie for aonyone who knows who Claire is supposed to be.
12:36.26MonetActually nah i hope it's obvious enough.
12:36.33OluapPlayeri best gun cus hiveind
12:43.22OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/c/ca/Artharon%27Kikra.png I just remembered Imperios had requested this a while ago and so here it is
12:43.25OluapPlayeran angry cat
12:43.44ImperiosEbulcat
12:45.47Xhohttp://www.loler.me/storage/4/1350730206.jpg Well...it's definitely a scarecrow
12:46.36OluapPlayerCrow - 2spooky
12:47.31OluapPlayerI feel like making more Kikras
12:47.55Xhohao about u make seven deadly sins
12:47.56XhoOh wait
12:47.59XhoHm
12:48.00OluapPlayerhur
12:53.05Xho"2430s - The Grimbolsaurians luckily survived become spacefaring. However, they met a terrible enemy (Wubs), but allied with other Delpha Sector empires, who overwhelmed their foes."
12:53.08Xho'Wubs'
12:53.13XhoKicath - ur fukin kiddin me
12:53.35OluapPlayerhur
12:53.44ImperiosRuled by Emperor Skrillex
12:53.50OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/7/7b/Spinker%27Kikra.png put ur finger on its mouth
12:54.42WormyXho:  The Wubs are EBUL
12:55.07Xhosponkor kokra
12:55.15OluapPlayerkokro u dum
12:55.18Xhofien
12:56.57OluapPlayergo make dat Kicath dood
12:57.14OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3AKitmn%C3%A1rochoalt%C3%A1n%C3%BAn dis one
12:57.16OluapPlayermaek dis
12:58.45XhoI gotta go wash my car hur
12:58.50OluapPlayerfuk ur car
12:59.10Xhonoh fuk urs
13:09.42OluapPlayerHmm what could I make
13:09.48OluapPlayerI'm on a Spore mood
13:10.54WormyNot a bad mood to have
13:24.32OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/a/af/Future_Mikmik.png Mikmik frum da futur
13:27.47ImperiosAccording to my sister, that's a "Little Spore girl"
13:28.00OluapPlayerhur
13:28.13OluapPlayerMonet: That's how they look like in Star Dragons
13:29.16ImperiosOluapPlayer: In case we ever get to remaking the Tigris War
13:29.50ImperiosWe ought to make Geltastra appear in it
13:30.21OluapPlayerJo was complaining about not having anything to do, she completely forgot about the Tigris War remake
13:30.21Imperios...and make her flirt with Arsac at that point already if the Inquisition appears in it as well
13:30.30OluapPlayerhur
13:30.44OluapPlayerGeltastra's dragon fetish
13:31.13OluapPlayerIt's weird considering how we introduced her as serious plus Radeon don't seem like the kind of people who would do that
13:31.13ImperiosOr maybe with another female Radeon
13:31.18ImperiosJ/k
13:31.27ImperiosWell about Arsac
13:31.36WormySee you all later.
13:36.11XhoBack
13:37.37OluapPlayerThird coming of spu
13:38.01Xhonever enuff comings of Spu
13:38.11OluapPlayermake dat kicath nao
13:38.55OluapPlayerAlso I need pre-ded Mu so I can make pictures with him
13:39.26XhoCan you use creatures I make with DI in your game though
13:39.42OluapPlayerYes
13:39.49Xhooh gud
13:39.52MonetStoopid aliens
13:40.20MonetXCOM-Xho keeps getting killed and made a zombie
13:40.27OluapPlayerXhombie
13:43.10OluapPlayerXhombie killed him
13:44.42Xho_Sporehur
14:10.58Xho_SporeOluapPlayer: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/4/45/PreDedMu.png dere
14:11.08OluapPlayeryey
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14:11.40ImperiosHi
14:12.28Technobliteratorhii
14:12.35Technobliteratorso freaking tired
14:12.42Technobliteratorjust been at the gym for an hour and a half
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14:44.33Hachi_Hai
14:45.18OluapPlayerhai
14:45.21OluapPlayer~steal Cyrannian
14:45.21infobotACTION grabs Cyrannian and gives it to oluapplayer
14:45.28OluapPlayerHachi_: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/278/d/0/goomy__goomy_goomy_goomy_goomy__by_adorability-d6p9lj5.png
14:45.45Hachi_daww
14:54.45OluapPlayerI was having a shitty playthrough on Binding of Isaac but then I got the Candle and it suddenly got super easy
14:54.50OluapPlayerThe Candle is OP as fuck hur
14:56.49Hachi_hur
14:57.12OluapPlayerThe Candle is an item that lets you launch a small flame at your enemies
14:57.38OluapPlayerExcept this small flame insta-kills nearly every enemy and makes bosses a joke
14:58.16OluapPlayerAnd you can spam it every 5 seconds or less
14:58.20OluapPlayercandle gud
15:00.47Xho_SporeKithworto: The Candle
15:01.13Hachi_What's worse than a flopper? A flip flopper.
15:03.05Xowat
15:03.14Hachi_Xi#
15:03.14XhoXo is a registered nick apparently
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15:03.40XhoI want to do some Tantum but there's no Monet
15:03.45Hachi_http://i.imgur.com/mvwFQcY.jpg
15:03.58XhoEveryone to Kezoreg
15:04.16OluapPlayerfunny cus true
15:12.55Hachi_http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2443974/Bear-WOLFs-unlikely-friendship-caught-camera-photographer.html
15:16.12Hachi_http://i.imgur.com/mSPFgiH.jpg Found this
15:16.26Hachi_Pretty much Xhocake
15:17.09OluapPlayernasti
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15:22.13Hichidum
15:22.25OluapPlayeru is
15:28.34Hichihttp://i.imgur.com/RHoe6Yc.gif Have some pandas
15:28.43Cyrannianhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/0/01/Great_Cyrannus_War.png - c
15:31.54OluapPlayerCyrannian: Purty good
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15:42.45ImperiosCyrannian: Pew pew
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15:58.00Cyrannianhttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f9/SporeWikiFictionUniverse.png - c
15:58.03CyrannianHello!
15:58.10MonetI was just looking at that
15:58.39MonetI am becoming one with the IRC.
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15:59.23Hichidum
15:59.27OluapPlayerdat shiny
15:59.36HichiNice logo
16:00.08MonetIt's very nice.
16:01.09TekDroidHello
16:03.21TekDroidThose look really good Cyrannian.
16:03.23XhoOluapPlayer: Currently remaking Kitoruka
16:03.30OluapPlayerkotoroko
16:03.33CyrannianThanks
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16:15.33Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cyrannian/Sandbox - What do people think of a possible new userbox for the fiction universe?
16:15.58Xhodis gud
16:16.08Xhodis very gud
16:16.35XhoOluapPlayer: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/7/71/KitorukaTandava.png "HELLO BOYS, I'M BAAAAAACK"
16:17.24ImperiosCyrannian: Gud
16:17.25OluapPlayerCyrannian: Looks great
16:17.30OluapPlayerXho: holy fuk
16:17.36OluapPlayerKithworto - dun liek
16:17.39CyrannianWill I replace the old one with it?
16:17.45OluapPlayerYes
16:20.09XhoI need to do the demon language
16:20.25OluapPlayerAdd him to Captains paeg
16:25.37TekDroidKitoruka... wasn't that a Kicath or something?
16:26.23OluapPlayerYes
16:26.27Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dominion_of_the_Xhodocto/Captains dere added
16:26.32XhoKitoruka = Kithworto's brother
16:26.36XhoI just realised
16:26.39XhoKicath have major family issues
16:26.53XhoEspecially when two members of your family are ancient demigods
16:27.14XhoOr in Nu's case, one being a supersoldier and the other a dark-ascended supersoldier
16:27.20XhoWith anger management issues
16:28.13ImperiosCyrannian: No, seriously
16:28.17ImperiosI reall like the pics you made
16:28.27CyrannianThanks
16:30.46XhoI wonder whether Kitoruka's Omega State is more powerful than Kithworto's
16:30.56XhoConsidering he is a Tandava Xi'Arazulha more than likely
16:31.44XhoDoesn't help that Kitoruka is a full blown Xi'Arazulha and Kithworto is only half-Xi'Arazulha at the most
16:33.47XhoThinking about it as well, Kezoreg has an even more fucked up family
16:33.54XhoAll of his uncles are omnicidal demonic psychos
16:34.03XhoKitoruka, Moxix and Santorakh
16:34.13Hichihur
16:34.30XhoThen again his fathers are demonic psychos as well
16:34.50OluapPlayerSon of a deranged Zazane, an Asgord, has the blood of a Xhodocto, was adopted by a Vi'Navitum-Xi'Arazulha hybrid and his uncles are all insane nuts
16:34.50XhoKithworto, Kitoruka, Moxix, Tyraz, Santorakh and Angazhar
16:35.03HichiBy technicality, his mother was also a demonic psycho
16:35.07HichiJust not omnicidal
16:35.24XhoKithworto + Kitoruka + Moxix + Tyraz + Santorakh + Angazhar - ew ur mother
16:36.01HichiHas a whole family of omnicidal demonic gods and demigods -> Gets insulted for his mother
16:36.29XhoThat being said the only stable relation between any of them is Moxix and Santorakh
16:36.56XhoAngazhar and Santorakh is a given and technically they're the same being
16:37.00XhoSo dunt count
16:37.38XhoAlso even more weird because Tyraz is the only one without direct relation to the Xhodocto
16:38.19HichiI feel Tyraz has become the Worf of Sporewiki kinda
16:38.20XhoKithworto and Kitoruka were sired by the Xhodocto splitting the Vi'Navitum, Angazhar and Santorakh are Xhodocto and Moxix is Santorakh's best drinking buddy
16:38.49HichiTyraz is usually used to be defeated in order to show how powerful somebody else is hur
16:39.15XhoKithworto - blame Santorakh
16:39.34XhoSantorakh started all of this crazy shit come to think of it
16:40.03XhoSantorakh drives everyone nuts -> Tyraz goes nuts and tries to kill Kithworto -> Years later, Kezoreg joins Kithworto -> Santorakh eats cheese and laughs
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16:44.13CyrannianOne more thingie, does anyone think we should change the wiki's wordmark? Personally I think it should be something transparent.
16:44.23HichiWordmark?
16:47.28CyrannianThe wiki's logo
16:49.24CyrannianOse: What do you think?
16:49.55Oseliked the old one
16:50.10XhoI don't even remember the old one
16:51.12CyrannianIt was basically just "sporewiki" with a transparent background.
16:51.47Oseuse the history thing on the theme designer to see the old stuff
16:51.57XhoRight
16:51.57OluapPlayerI prefer the current one
16:52.06XhoStill think we should change the skin colour overall though
16:52.20Hichi^
16:52.22HichiAgreed
16:52.22XhoThe one discussion that's never finished or started is changing the skin colour
16:52.37Technobliteratorhm
16:52.42TechnobliteratorI don't mean too much
16:52.46Technobliterator*mind
16:52.51XhoSomething a bit more neutral in my opinion
16:53.03CyrannianI think we should revert to one of the older logos, I don't think the current one blends in very well.
16:53.22XhoWell it's been there for two years or so
16:53.25XhoMight as well change it
16:54.22XhoIf that is the case the text will probably need a glow to it
16:54.30HichiYeah
16:54.31XhoText by itself looks a little mundane
16:55.00Hichihttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/a/a0/FictionverseLogo.png Probably something like this but with "Sporewiki" instead of the actual symbol
16:55.01Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cyrannian/Sandbox - I added a few here
16:55.49HichiThird one down looks nice
16:56.59XhoNot a fan of the blue
16:57.04XhoNeeds more neutrality in colour
16:57.34HichiNeeds more monochrome
16:57.46XhoI said neutral not monochrome hur
16:58.28TekDroid<PROTECTED>
16:59.14TekDroidMobile Wikia really is absolutely terrible.
17:00.07TekDroid<PROTECTED>
17:01.02TekDroidAdvice: Always use Desktop view on mobile.
17:01.06TekDroidBrb
17:04.29Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cyrannian/Sandbox#Possible_Wordmarks - Added a few more
17:04.49CyrannianI think my favourite is either the 4th or the 7th.
17:05.17HichiI like the 6th but needs less glow
17:07.57TekDroidI'm with Hichi here.
17:07.59XhoAsks for neutral colours -> more blue
17:08.06Xhoenglish mothafuka do u speek it
17:08.08Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:Next_WikiLogo
17:08.58CyrannianAdded less glow
17:09.08Hichiyey
17:10.55CyrannianMight as well start the Featured articles vote.
17:12.33CyrannianStarting with featured empires. Send in yo' suggestions.
17:13.11HichiRovegar Matriarchy
17:15.02Cyrannianrite
17:16.34CyrannianAnything else?
17:17.41HichiHmm
17:18.02HichiGuys, need some suggestion help here hur
17:18.20CyrannianI think we should nominate one of Wormy's fictions.
17:18.37HichiEuropean Star Republic
17:18.46HichiAnd one of Wormy's fics hur
17:21.26Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:October_2013:_Featured_Fiction_Poll
17:22.10CyrannianCaptains?
17:22.31CyrannianPerhaps from users that aren't nominated often.
17:23.23HichiTekDroid, Jepardi, DrodoEmpire, Technobliterator, give us your captains
17:23.43Technobliteratorhm?
17:23.44Technobliteratoroh
17:24.04Technobliteratoryou mean vote?
17:24.25HichiGive us captains you wanna see nominated that belong to you hur
17:24.38Technobliteratorsollow
17:24.42Technobliteratorof course
17:24.44Technobliteratorurm, hm
17:24.48Technobliteratorbillig, perhaps?
17:24.59Hichirite, Billig
17:25.23TechnobliteratorCyrannian: voted 6th
17:25.28TekDroidWell I actually really haven't made any captain pages... only one remotely dobe needs a bunch of retconning.
17:26.11TekDroidThere's a few good other captain pages in Katar though...
17:26.43HichiCool, nominate some!
17:27.24TekDroidLet's see...
17:27.49TekDroid[[Fiction:Gustavus Ikeben]]...
17:28.23Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gustavus_Ikeben
17:28.38CyrannianThat looks like a great page.
17:28.58TekDroid<PROTECTED>
17:29.35CyrannianThough pages do need a main image.
17:30.36HichiHmm, has Baptarion been nominated before?
17:30.59HichiWell, actually, has he won a vote before?
17:31.04HichiBecause I do believe in renomination hur
17:31.37TekDroidAnd I'll give one more Katarian http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Vankalian
17:31.45XhoXhodocto nao
17:32.21Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:October_2013:_Featured_Captain_Poll
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17:32.33Tybusenhai all u
17:32.41CyrannianFeatured stories. Again, preferably from users who aren't often nominated.
17:33.09Tybusenslips his name into the Goblet of Fire
17:34.48CyrannianNaval Tradition?
17:34.53TekDroiddigs through Katar again
17:34.55HichiYes, Naval Tradition!
17:35.03Cyrannianngh, no image.
17:35.12HichiUse the main Dysnomia image
17:35.18HichiSince it is a Dysnomia substory
17:35.30CyrannianKaydookie
17:35.38HichiWhile we're at it, Furia Ex Deus as well
17:36.08HichiWhich has Monet's own drawn image
17:37.54MonetWhat about Star Dragons?
17:38.07HichiOoh Star Dragons as well
17:38.09TybusenGraphics dunt meen nuttin m8
17:38.27MonetTiz Dysnomia month
17:38.34CyrannianI need one more. How about Rights of Earth?
17:38.34TybusenAndromeda Month
17:38.42HichiRights of Earth, yeah
17:39.06Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:October_2013:_Featured_Story_Poll
17:41.05CyrannianRightio, so #6 won the logo poll. I'll change it now so you can have a look.
17:43.01HichiLooks much better
17:43.04HichiMuch more eye-catching
17:43.42MonetDefinitely. Also its easier to see the wiki title
17:43.50Technobliteratorlooks neat
17:43.51XhoNow we need to change the wiki skin
17:43.55Xhochange dis
17:44.04TekDroidThe background part?
17:44.13XhoWell the entire colour scheme
17:44.50CyrannianI'm fine with the current version. It reminds me of the Sporepedia in game.
17:44.58TekDroidSame here.
17:45.09HichiYeah I'm sorta fine with it
17:45.26TekDroidHas a special feel to it.
17:45.27MonetOne thing I don't like about Wikipedia is the whiteness strains my eyes after extended reading.
17:45.43MonetI don't get that so much with Sporewiki
17:45.57CyrannianSame
17:46.10CyrannianFeatured creatures?
17:46.20TekDroidThe only thing I might change at all would be more contrast between colours.
17:46.38XhoWell not white
17:46.50HichiKondrakar
17:47.48Xhohttp://www.colorcombos.com/colors/336666 This sort of colour
17:47.51TybusenThe dark background does have a good contrast with the white text
17:48.35MonetXho: A nice cool colour, I like it
17:48.44Xhohttp://www.colorcombos.com/colors/34626B Perhaps more saturation
17:49.00HichiI do like the latter, but does it go with white?
17:49.07XhoShould do
17:49.14XhoIt's not that far from the blue we have now
17:49.45CyrannianI prefer the blue
17:51.42TekDroidThe second one is too green.
17:52.22TekDroidScratch that, both are.
17:52.51XhoI just don't like the blue
17:52.55XhoIt's far too dark
17:53.11HichiIf you had your choice
17:53.12HichiYou'd have it Zalgo red and black
17:53.28XhoWell if I had my choice it would be that colour u dum
18:08.22Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki - I made some super sexual edits
18:08.40MonetOh now that is sweet
18:09.01HichiOoh dats nice
18:10.04TekDroidAwesone!
18:11.20TekDroidThe old titles were very plain.
18:12.38TekDroidAlright, creatures...
18:13.41HichiHmm
18:14.03TekDroidThe Draconis creature has never won.
18:15.28HichiThat's surprising
18:16.19CyrannianRight, I nominated Draconis. I need two more
18:16.35HichiDracogonarious
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18:17.47HichiHai
18:17.48CyrannianAnd that's why everyone hates OluapPlayer
18:17.59Cyrannianoh hai
18:18.17HichiZi-Jittoram
18:18.26HichiZi-Jittoram and Dracogonarious
18:18.53Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:October_2013:_Featured_Creature_Poll
18:21.11OluapPlayerI'm waiting for something good to happen because I'm not having a good day today
18:22.58TekDroidDid we do deatured article yet?
18:23.06TekDroid*featured
18:23.11TybusenOluap: Well, Um is getting stuff done today if that makes you happy
18:23.13HichiOluapPlayer: http://i.imgur.com/e4jddDw.jpg It's dangerous to go alone, take this!
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18:23.44OluapPlayerdat cat
18:23.54OfficerJackalHello!
18:23.58OluapPlayerThis whole wiki changing thing is bs to me
18:24.21TekDroidHey OJ
18:24.35Hichihttp://0.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/98/88/4a15073763cd3732683d408f78001aa6-sometimes-the-lobster-fights-back.jpg
18:25.34TybusenLobster - herd u been talkin shit mate
18:25.56Hichiohgod
18:26.52TybusenLobster - now dis is a knife
18:37.34OluapPlayerNeeds more Imperios needs more Tantum
18:38.01TechnobliteratorCyrannian|Away: I'm impressed
18:38.50MonetHe's playing Guild Wars, I can call him if you like
18:39.41CyrannianTechnobliterator: Thanks :D
18:43.18OluapPlayerHichi: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/619/389/58c.gif
18:43.43HichiThat reminds me of the gay Titan that Mikasa took down
18:43.55HichiThe really flamboyent one
18:44.30OluapPlayerI don't think I remember that
18:45.41Hichihttp://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Guys+wait+come+on+wait+.+Attack+on+titan+is+funny_857c88_4668605.gif This one
18:45.43MonetHe's on his way
18:46.02XhoNow I want to Tantum
18:46.29OluapPlayerOh
18:46.32OluapPlayerLate-for-school Titan
18:46.35TybusenI finally got around to watching one episode of Attack on Titan
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18:46.50HichiGod where's that gay Imp
18:46.53HichiOhai
18:47.10XhoOne thing bothers me about that gif
18:47.11OluapPlayergud
18:47.14OluapPlayer#TantummodoMortem nao
18:47.19Cyranniandats my joke u bastard
18:47.26TybusenIt was that one episode where that one female Titan nommed Eren or however you spell it
18:47.28XhoHow did the guy not feel the Titan coming up behind him
18:47.41HichiTitans don't weigh anything
18:47.50HichiWell, they don't weigh much
18:48.06HichiThat and he was probably too tired to do anything about it
18:48.22HichiTybusen: Start from Episode 1 u dum
18:48.26MonetANimeLogic
18:48.39TybusenI was at a friend's house and he happened to be watchin that episode u dum
18:48.46CyrannianThe winners of this month's featured fictions are: Wormy, Oluap, Tybusen and The Clanden! Congratulations to the winners
18:48.47OluapPlayerTitans have weird biology
18:48.54Tybusen:D
18:48.57HichiNot really; it's said in-anime that they disobey physics and nobody knows why
18:49.08HichiCongrats guys
18:49.09OluapPlayerStill weird biology
18:49.19HichiI meant Monet hur
18:49.19OluapPlayerinfobot: git on the rp chat nao
18:49.19infobotACTION declares on the rp chat nao a total smeghead
18:49.27OluapPlayerWait what
18:49.34XhoWait what indeed
18:49.37OluapPlayerI meant to ping Imp
18:49.38HichiWait what
18:49.42TekDroidO.
18:49.49TekDroidO.o
18:49.54Xho~git on Xho
18:49.54infobotACTION declares on Xho a total smeghead
18:50.03XhoWhat an odd command
18:50.11OluapPlayer~git Xho
18:50.11infobotACTION declares Xho a total smeghead
18:50.12Hichi~git Tybusen
18:50.12infobotACTION declares Tybusen a total smeghead
18:50.15Hichirite
18:50.18Hichidats hao it works
18:50.45MonetHehehe
18:50.54MonetShould be #goit
18:50.58TekDroidInfobot: test
18:50.58infobotmethinks test is not funny
18:50.59Monet~goit
18:51.08OluapPlayerhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/618/941/178.gif rawr
18:51.21HichiSaw this yesterday
18:51.24HichiAttack on Gojira
18:52.25TybusenWelp, my 3DS is being a bitch and isn't letting me play my online Mario Kart 7
18:55.45MonetWell, i spent about eight attempts to complete a mission on XCOM. Within Team Sporewiki, dino and Xho's characters died to this the most http://images.wikia.com/xcom/images/6/6f/XCOM-EU_Chryssalid.jpg
18:56.19MonetOne time I tried to use Xho (the healthiest at the time) to lure them out and all three in a pack swarmed him.
18:56.26OluapPlayerolol
18:56.35XhoHappens a lot
18:57.22MonetDon't worry in my final attempt you were unharmed.
18:58.25MonetAlthough when the team encountered this http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130215140430/xcom/images/a/aa/XEU_Sectoid_Commander.png at the end of the base you panicked after it mind-controlled the team sniper and blasted it.
18:58.50MonetYou'd get a medal but I was trying to capture the bugger alive.
19:01.17XhoRight I need to make a page for Erebus
19:02.13OluapPlayerWe're waiting for Hachi so you got a long time to do that
19:06.04Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Chaos#Planes_of_Chaos dere
19:06.30OluapPlayermaney planes
19:06.36XhoThe Xhodocto would argue that this reality and all planes of existence are planes of Chaos
19:11.40Xhohttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/3/34/Erebus.png Erebus
19:12.55OluapPlayerlotsa blu
19:26.57Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Chaos/Erebus Be prepared for a connection
19:27.38Cyrannian|Awayhttp://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/SorenJohnson/20131002/201514/Spore_My_View_of_the_Elephant.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+News%29 - Some people might find this interesting.
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19:31.31Zmr56Hi there
19:32.28XhoI guess no one read that page then
19:32.31XhoOh well I tried
19:33.09OluapPlayerI did and it's gud
19:33.59XhoGreat now I need to make Chaos Monsters for Insomnia, Tangent and Shard
19:34.19OluapPlayerInsomnia monsters
19:34.22OluapPlayerCheese and BEEEEEEEEEEEEES
19:34.32XhoSantorakh - win
19:34.57XhoShard's Chaos Monsters are actually intangible giant tentacle monsters so I don't have to
19:35.06XhoInsomnia and Tangent
19:35.25OluapPlayerShu - get ur own mosnturs
19:35.27XhoArx' are the Asuraraksasa
19:35.42XhoXi'Arazkha - noh
19:36.13XhoThe Inferno Chaos Monsters are the Reventali
19:36.34XhoMore big invisible tentacle monsters
19:38.02OluapPlayerShu - fuk sake guise
19:39.03XhoReventali - NOM NOM NOM NOM
19:48.12MonetStill love the conclusion of the XCOM mission: Sectoid COmmander - Blergh I am Alien *Mind controls sniper* | Xho Agent - Oh fuck me! *panics and shoots commander in the face with shotgun*
19:49.02XhoYou don't even need to do the first part to get my reaction
19:49.05OluapPlayerMission control was all "STOOPID you should have taken it alive!" and Xho Agent was all "bro do u even kno who i am"
19:50.18MonetMission control was doubly pist because Xho was the one with the stun device.
19:50.23Monetpissed*
19:50.42MonetThen again...I think he was the team captain
19:51.14OluapPlayerXho Agent - *kills alien* dere i stunned it FOREVER
19:52.26XhoAgent Xhu
19:52.31MonetDoes it make sense dino's character was the one with the LMG?
19:53.21OluapPlayerdino's gun fires exclamation marks
19:53.27Hichiolol
19:53.36HichiAnd is extra nice
19:53.38MonetNow that makes sense
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20:17.32Hichi2much rain
20:18.02Xhodat not rain
20:19.00OluapPlayerXho: purty
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20:32.14TekDroidTime to see if this breaks my Spore...
20:33.27TekDroid*sigh of relief&
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20:36.23CyrannianHello!
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20:40.31WormyHi
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20:43.51CyrannianHello!
20:48.25OfficerJackalHey!
20:48.45Wormyhi
20:51.05AngrybirdsHey!
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21:18.23OluapPlayerHichi: http://i.imgur.com/rQkcyCU.jpg jesus christ look at those stats
21:18.49Hichiholy shit dem stats
21:55.12WormyWhat a shame yorkie bars no longer say, "not for girls"
21:55.47HichiYeah I miss that
21:56.09MonetWere femenists complaining?
21:57.59WormyProbably acting as professional victims again
21:58.29HichiProtest for gender equality -> Actually want female superiority
21:58.59MonetI don't mind the new marketing slogal "man-fuel for man-stuff"
21:59.06Monetslogan*
21:59.15CyrannianAll humans are equally inferior in the eyes of Cyrannian
21:59.17WormyI just generally dislike pressure groups
21:59.22Hichi"Man-fuel"
21:59.31Hichihao bout u drink mah man fuel
21:59.54MonetMy punching-obsessed friend had quite some influence on me.
21:59.57WormyMcoys crisps = Man crisps
22:02.21MonetCrap now i'm hungry. It's 11pm and all i have for food is cereal, porrige oats, some milk, butter, dried maceroni and a tub of butter.
22:02.22Hichibrb restartin
22:02.32HichiEat the butter
22:02.42MonetSugar-coated butter?
22:02.45HichiAlso, it's Saturday night. And you're 20.
22:02.58HichiSurely there are some 24 hour stores nearby
22:03.22WormyGo 2 pub and get 2 pints and a packet of crisps
22:03.32HichiMy God you just had to remind me of that show
22:03.34CyrannianDrunk Monet would be entertaining
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22:03.40HichiNo it wouldn't hur
22:03.45HichiDrunk anything isn't entertaining
22:03.50HichiUnless it's drunk Shepard
22:03.53MonetMost i've had in my life is two pints.
22:03.56TybusenReal men get drunk and embarrass themselves in public
22:04.05OluapPlayerNo one drunk is entertaining
22:04.09XhoTo be honest
22:04.13XhoThere is little fun in being drunk
22:04.26XhoFor me anyway
22:04.34XhoI have little personality change when I'm drunk
22:04.46XhoExcept for that time I was doing that DUN DUN DUN thing
22:04.55XhoThat was a mixture of things that day
22:05.00MonetXho's a grumpy drunk
22:05.02WormyMost I've had is four pints of ale, 1 pint of cider, six sambucas, 1 tequila, 1 yager bomb
22:05.13XhoWormy: geezush
22:05.15CyrannianY'all must be the life of the party.
22:05.24TybusenBeen sober me whole life
22:05.26XhoFor me, three bottles of whiskey, four shots of the same and a beer
22:05.39XhoI was violently ill for 2 days afterwards
22:05.45WormyI find it fun, if only with friends who are also drunk.  othrwie its not
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22:05.52CyrannianI personally don't drink because I like being able to manipulate drunk people while sober.
22:06.00MonetLast time I got tipsy let's see...I ended up discussing with a friend how we would take over the world.
22:06.14AngrydroidThat sound
22:06.19TybusenBasically, the same as when you're sober
22:06.20AngrydroidS
22:06.22XhoLast time I was that drunk I was talking about slaughtering the neighbour next door
22:06.43TybusenIt's surprising me how little all of you change when you get drunk
22:06.50WormySilliest thing I did was to leap 15 feet into the air/oblivion
22:06.51AngrydroidEnter key, y you do this to me?
22:07.32CyrannianMy friends theorise that I would be very bitchy while drunk.
22:07.37WormyI leaped for the pure sake of it
22:07.44XhoCyrannian: Sounds about right hur
22:07.45MonetWe were deciding who would ge what countries and I asked if I could control Canada.
22:07.45AngrydroidThere is a cat nipping at my hair... Odd...
22:08.14TybusenMonet: We must have all been drunk when we created the Divided Earth fictions
22:08.30WormyIts only odd if the cat popped into exitence
22:09.10AngrydroidWell...
22:09.18WormyI can get deeply philosophical after a couple of pints, past four I get dumb
22:09.26Xhohur
22:09.41XhoI get violent past seven
22:09.54XhoAfter eleven, sleepy
22:09.59XhoAfter fourteen, ill
22:10.09TybusenAfter 20, ded
22:10.11MonetI'd make mac & cheese but I don't know how much milk I have, I have no cheese and those 24hr shops don't sell my kind of milk.
22:10.20XhoSixteen is enough for ded hur
22:10.27CyrannianMale metal cow milk?
22:10.32TybusenNOH
22:11.05MonetYes, Xho is my milkmaid.
22:11.06TybusenXho: I'd probably be dead after 10
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22:11.16WormyMonet  The beer will put you off hunger for a while
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22:11.39XhoThe main issue from waking up after drinking is dehydration above all others
22:11.45XhoHeadache I can deal with
22:12.13TybusenWell, the headache sorta is a result of the dehydration
22:12.20TybusenI think
22:12.43WormyIf I stick to beer, I don't really get hangovers.  Cider and spirit on the other hand
22:12.51MonetCorrection I have no milk
22:12.59CyrannianAre people happy over the changes to the main page I made?
22:13.09MonetCyrannian: I love them
22:13.18WormyAlso cider makes me more argumentive.  Different alchohols definately have different effects
22:13.32CyrannianAnd I love you
22:13.35TybusenCyrannian: It's sexy
22:13.49CyrannianAnd so are you
22:14.13Tybusen=3= ~~
22:14.21MonetHmm...I have flour.
22:14.34MonetI suppose I could make a kind of batter.
22:14.56TybusenA real man needs no milk for his macaroni and cheese
22:15.00Wormybeer bater
22:15.25ImpyDroidNever tried spirita
22:15.36TybusenIdea: Subsitute the beer for milk
22:15.48ImpyDroidNot sure how I would act if intoxicated
22:15.59TybusenThat way you can have your mac and cheese and get drunk as well
22:16.26Wormywell, you'll all find out soon, its a part of growing up
22:16.57WormyT least in the culture I live in anyway :p
22:17.00Monetbbl then
22:17.08TybusenUs silly Americans and our drinking age of 21
22:17.11MonetGoing to improvise a meal
22:17.48WormyTybusen  I live in a town and ome of my friends got away with buying alcohol underage
22:17.52TybusenI find delicious irony in the fact that America is called the land of liberty, yet it's by far one of the most socially conservative Western nations
22:17.55Wormysome
22:18.10Wormylol
22:18.19Tek0516I find America full of irony.
22:18.53WormyIn England the 18th birthday is like a right of passage when you buy your first legal pint
22:19.02TybusenThat's a thing about America: we arrive late to the party and then try to take credit for starting the party in the first place
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22:19.22CyrannianIn Ireland, the 1st birthday is like a right of passage when you buy your first legal pint.
22:19.29MonetCorrection: I can stay on a bit while my pasta poils
22:19.34Monetboils*
22:19.47Tek0516Like the US constitution forbidding religion in their government
22:20.01TybusenCyrannian: Irish years must be 18x longer than British years hur
22:20.33CyrannianNo.
22:20.41MonetTek0516: And yet it is impossible to become an atheist senator i nthe USA
22:20.49Tek0516Yep.
22:21.04TybusenTek0516: Every evangelist in Congress - We're a nation of religious freedom, so let me preach to you about how Christianity is the only way to salvation!
22:21.07MonetPOLITICS
22:21.09WormyI'm not sure if iys the same in Scotland, they don't have pub culture or many ales strangely enough
22:22.34TybusenI'm not sure if the conservatives who decry socialism as evil are still living in the Cold War or are uptight corporates who don't want to spare so much a dime to keep the lower class afloat
22:23.12Tek0516I say both.
22:23.14WormyThe latter part sounds almost like the touries...
22:23.18TybusenThe same people who say Obama's evil because he's a socialist are the same people who claim to care about the education system
22:23.51TybusenPublic education is inherently socialist
22:24.11Tek0516My favourite Americans are the anti-socialist Americans who threaten to move to Canada.
22:24.45TybusenTek0516: Anti-Socialist American - I hate Obama's new universal healthcare plan. Let's go to Canada where they already have universal healthcare!
22:24.52Wormyhur
22:25.17TybusenThe unfortunate thing about we Americans is that we're all hypocrites on something
22:25.19MonetWormy: It woun't surprise me since both parties are conservatives.
22:25.23Tek0516IMO, if a political argument includes religion then its instantly void.
22:25.43MonetGeorge Bush & Stem cells
22:25.48TybusenReligion is never a valid argument in a rational discussion
22:26.54TybusenI understand where the conservatives are coming from, trying to preserve national identity or tradition, but that's the same way every Western nation felt pre-1939 and look where that got us
22:27.35TybusenHint: it starts with a W and ends with an I
22:27.56WormyNational identity is a changing face imo
22:28.03MonetSemiActually pre 1918 is more accuraate
22:28.59Tek0516Compare Canada to US. Similar in many ways, but one is full of debt, shooting streaks, government indesicion, and is often an international joke.
22:29.26TybusenMonet: True, though nationalism is the same thing that caused WWII
22:30.33TybusenA comparison of Canada and the United States: One is mercilessly mocked on the Internet because of its culture and people, and the other is Canada
22:30.56TybusenAnd then don't get me started on Alaska
22:31.01WormyCanada was the child that payed attention jk
22:31.53Tek0516Our current government kinda sucks though.
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22:32.20TybusenCanada is paying attention and intently taking notes, America is the one in the back trying to stuff the square peg into the circle hole and scrawling profanity on the walls
22:32.37Tybusenohai Hichi
22:33.00MonetSemiIf Canada has contributed anything great to modern culture, it is science fiction film studios
22:33.07WormyI think everyone in the western world feels unsatisfied tbh
22:33.50Tybusenand Mounties.
22:34.08TekDroidI don't know how we ended up with so many weak politicians right now.
22:34.38HichiTHEY ARE TOO WEAK TO BRING IN KRATOCRACY
22:34.49HichiPOLITICS SHOULD BE WITH FIST
22:34.51TybusenI think we're in a part of the generational cycle where we have really weak political leaders
22:34.57CyrannianHichi: Amen sister
22:35.14TybusenHichi: HOOVY FOR PRESIDENT 2016
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22:36.16TekDroidHello Wormy_
22:36.19CyrannianIn conclusion, we should overthrow Wormy_
22:36.19TybusenAnd in the generational cycle theory, what follows a period of weak leadership is some kind of descent into chaos, usually a war
22:36.57TekDroidI'm very much a believer in that cyclical theory.
22:37.09TybusenYou had guys like Buchanan before the Civil War, Chamberlain before WWII, and pretty much the entire American government before what's gonna happen within the next decade
22:37.31TekDroidAnd unfortunately we're in that bad oeriod.
22:37.37TekDroid*period
22:37.52TybusenOn the bright side though, we're the generation who's gonna clean things up and usher in a new golden age
22:38.09TekDroidOf course we're still at one of the greatest points in human history
22:38.10TybusenAccording to cyclical theory, at least
22:38.18CyrannianAssuming attractive reptilians don't wipe you off the face of the planet.
22:38.39TybusenCyrannian: That'll be the next weak cycle hur
22:39.41TybusenBut pretty much, we're the generation that's gonna be remembered for getting things done
22:39.51TybusenI find that so ironic
22:40.17TekDroidIf the cycle theory is true then we should really expand in the next cycle.
22:40.55TekDroidWe're also a generation with our entire knowledge in the palm of our hand.
22:41.13TybusenTrue, the Internet is by far the greatest innovation of our generation
22:41.40TekDroidAnd the cell phone expanded that a ton
22:42.14TekDroidAnyone and anything is within our reach now.
22:42.58TekDroidOf course, so are the weapons capable of destroying it all...
22:43.22CyrannianLike twerking.
22:45.23TybusenI forsee a war in 2020
22:45.38ImpyDroidscrew dis
22:46.03TekDroidI think within the next 10 years.
22:46.15ImpyDroidKnowing our country, we'll probably be the first to descend into authoritarianism or Evelyn totalitarianism
22:46.18ImpyDroid*even
22:46.47TekDroidRussia? I'd have to agree.
22:46.48MonetSemiWe're either the generation who will fix everything or we're the genration of the cycle born too late to do anything worthwhile.
22:47.35Wormy_Some are already calling us the lost generation, in terms of emplyability at least
22:47.53HichiI say we need younger politicians
22:47.56Wormy_which feels crasp
22:48.03HichiNot old-thinkers and traditionalists
22:48.04Wormy_crap
22:48.24TekDroidIt's traditionalists holding us back.
22:48.28MonetSemiAlso I vote for politicians who know their fields
22:48.28TybusenMy money's on Russia and China teaming up on everyone
22:48.39ImpyDroidLike Navalny? Definitely
22:49.14TybusenRussia and China are easily America's two biggest potential enemies
22:49.26ImpyDroidThat's a Russian anti-Putin activist
22:49.27TekDroidAgreed.
22:49.29ImpyDroidWell
22:49.48TybusenA few year ago I would've thrown Iran into the mix but their new leader looks like he wants to buddy up with the US again
22:49.48ImpyDroidOur economies are too intertwined for all-out wat
22:49.49ImpyDroidwar
22:49.51HichiYounger politicians who actually know what the people want instead of basing their assumptions off statistics and their own selfishness
22:50.17TybusenOlder politicians are corrupt and explicitly say that most of the time they're only concerned about their next election
22:50.47MonetSemiAgreed.
22:50.55TekDroidWell eventually China's costs will go up and people will stop using them.
22:51.01TybusenThen they shove lies down our throat using the media to take advantage of the less-educated masses of the public
22:51.02ImpyDroidYou guys rely on our oil, we rely on your oil and gas... everything ealse
22:51.30ImpyDroidSilly muhricans and their democracy, we have Putin and that's it
22:51.32Wormy_Do you get many whippet dogs in the US?  Because I'm watching with doc about the chupacabra, and I think it sounds like a mangey sighthound
22:51.46ImpyDroidThough overthrowing him probably won't make things much better
22:51.49TybusenWe have all kinds of dogs in the US
22:52.18TybusenImpyDroid: Still, you have to admit Putin is a smart politician for knowing he's the lesser of two evils and playing that up for all it's worth
22:52.22Wormy_Especially when one witness chased it in his vehicle at 40 mph, which is whippet speed
22:52.31TekDroidI think TLC is a good indicator of American decline.
22:52.35ImpyDroidOfc
22:52.42TybusenTekDroid: dear god
22:53.00ImpyDroidAfter what happened in the 90s, people really want peace
22:53.22TybusenPutin's election policy is "Would you rather have me, or Yeltsin again?"
22:53.50TekDroidTLC = The learning channel. Star program: Some really young redneck girl who does beauty pagents.
22:54.03CyrannianOur President looks like a leprechaun.
22:54.23MonetSemiI am eating macaroni coated in butter and flour and sprinkled with herbs and brown sugar. I am officially a student.
22:54.44TybusenTo really highlight TLC being a representation of American decline, TLC actually did show educational television before
22:54.49TekDroidAnd then we have the whole global warning "debate"
22:55.14Wormy_http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Greyhound  Like this dog?
22:55.25TybusenLike politicians, it originally did what it was supposed to do but now it's only doing things that will attract constituients
22:55.31TekDroidLol
22:55.59Wormy_That chupacabra shot in 2008 looks just like a mangey version of my dog
22:56.25MonetSemiI thought the Chupacabra was strictly South American?
22:56.31TybusenAt least I think a good indicator right now of which American politicians aren't corrupt is to observe which ones have voluntarily refused pay during the shutdown
22:56.48Cyrannianhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5OWRRJh-PI - If anyone has any interest, this is the Irish President calling a tea party guy a "wanker".
22:56.51Wormy_Thee as a spate in Texas
22:58.53ImpyDroidCyrannian: He looks like a sorcerer or a gnome
22:59.30CyrannianIndeed. But I think he's great
23:01.04TekDroidI think what's really kept America ignorant is the fact they haven't been directly attacked in nearly 2 centuries
23:01.55ImpyDroidWhich is why I believe they won't probably endure an all-out war if it begins
23:02.34TekDroidAll they've done is launch full out wars across the globe.
23:02.51TybusenImpyDroid: The only thing is that America really has no enemies that could conceivably attack them on their own turf. Maybe if Russia's smart enough to send troops across the Bering Strait into Alaska, maybe
23:02.55TekDroidWell, gtf.
23:03.02TekDroid*gtg
23:03.04ImpyDroidI mean, like WW2
23:03.25TybusenWell, yeah
23:03.33ImpyDroidIf America was attacked by the Reich instead of the USSR...
23:03.34TybusenAmerica got complacent and then Pearl Harbor happened
23:04.09ImpyDroidpeople on the internet can be stupid
23:04.18TybusenWell, I think the Western Hemisphere was not top priority on Hitler's checklist
23:04.38TybusenHe was too busy being an idiot and bombing London
23:05.08ImpyDroidThere was a guy on YouTube who said that "after letting the USSR crumble the USA would have easily crushed the Nazis"
23:05.51TybusenI hate it when Americans act jingoistic like that
23:05.54Wormy_I thought the Americans recieved heavy losses upon entering the war against Germany
23:06.30ImpyDroidTybusen: You know what's funny? A RUSSIAN said that
23:06.36TybusenWell, compared to the other WWII nations, America got off really easy
23:06.42TybusenImpyDroid: wut
23:06.55Wormy_It was after the war America became an influetial military power, beforehand it seems they didn't have much of an army, am I right?
23:07.32TybusenWormy_: Well, America was trying to stay out of the war as much as possible, so obviously they hadn't had a decent army mobilized yet
23:07.39TybusenBut, the Navy was one of the best in the world
23:07.39Wormy_US probably got the most out of the war
23:08.13TybusenAmerica was the only major belligerent of WWII that didn't get directly attacked in their home territory, so obviously they were the strongest coming out of it
23:08.17ImpyDroidTybusen: Don't try to understand Russians
23:08.18Wormy_Many were sank by the U boats though in the Atlantic
23:08.23ImpyDroidIt's impossible
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23:08.44TybusenWormy_: I think a lot of those were cargo ships carrying supplies to Britain
23:09.12Wormy_Quite a few carriers and battleships were lost as well
23:09.20TybusenThe main reason why Pearl Harbor happened is because Japan was absolutely terrified of what would happen if America's navy got involved
23:09.24ImpyDroidThere was also a white suprematist guy I talked with who apparently does not see a difference between the climates of Italy, India and Sub-Saharan Africa
23:10.13ImpyDroidNo, seriously, he was so dum he couldn't even spell the names of the races he deemed inferior right until I told him
23:10.15TybusenWormy_: I don't know if America really had too many carriers on the Atlantic, I think a lot more of them were being used on the Pacific front to fight the Japanese. If anything, America would've put their destroyers in the Atlantic to fight off the German U-boats
23:10.28ImpyDroidStill considered me to be inferior though
23:10.36CyrannianBye!
23:11.28ImpyDroidTybusen: Well
23:11.31Wormy_Tybusen  Well I saw this documentary overviewing the war like it was being watchd from space, and whatever the warships were, they lost a few
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23:11.53ImpyDroidYou supplied the USSR and the Allies with resources
23:12.01ImpyDroidhi dum
23:12.19OluapPlayerhi ugly
23:12.29TybusenWell, I'm more knowledgeable about the Pacific Front and the late European Front than any other part of WWII, so I really don't know what America's naval activity in the Atlantic was
23:13.28TybusenImpyDroid: Yeah, but Japan's main motive for attacking Pearl Harbor was the fact that America embargo'd their oil and that Japan needed to put the US Navy out of commission while Japan nommed Indonesia
23:14.01Wormy_I know more abut the European front than the Pacific one
23:14.16ImpyDroidSoviet front
23:14.19ImpyDroidDuh
23:15.15Wormy_Don't disregard the batles in North Africa and so on
23:15.23TybusenAll I know about the Soviet front is that Hitler wanted the oil from the area around Stalingrad (which is modern-day Volgograd I think), and then Russian Winter happened and Hitler's armies were nommed by the Soviets
23:15.50TybusenWormy_: The North African front was important but they never talk about it much in American history classes
23:16.14Wormy_I as talking to Imp
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23:16.38The_RandomnessHello everyone
23:16.56Tybusenhola
23:17.00Wormy_I suppose we all have a geographical bias when it comes to ww2
23:17.10Wormy_in education
23:17.33TybusenThat's inevitable
23:18.10TybusenYou're expected to know about the battles that happened practically next-door to you rather than some battle that happened on the literal other side of the globe
23:18.39Wormy_http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=VolG7V3-4hw  this is that documentary overlooking ww2 from space
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23:19.22TybusenFor example, do you know what the Battle of Midway was and what the Battle of Iwo Jima was?
23:19.42Wormy_Heard of the first one
23:20.00The_RandomnessI've heard of both.
23:20.23ImpyDroidIwojima
23:20.26Wormy_Then again I've only learned about the Pacific theatre through American documentaries
23:20.28ImpyDroidHeard of that
23:20.32TybusenWell you live in the Western Hemisphere Random, so you're expected to know them
23:20.48ImpyDroidAn image of a banner ssprings in mind
23:21.30Wormy_This surpriss me, since the Japanese and British Empire did fight, but you never hear about it
23:21.32TybusenMidway was the pivotal battle of the Pacific front, where Yamamoto got himself screwed by an angry American Navy, Iwo Jima is a very famous battle to Americans
23:21.58TybusenIwo Jima is the battle where you get the image of the GIs raising the flag on the mountain from
23:22.12ImpyDroid^that
23:22.19ImpyDroidSaw that picture
23:23.11TybusenWormy_: I read about the early battles between Japan and Britain, I remember it being that Britain's entire strategy in the East Indies relying on Singapore, and then the British getting royally screwed when Singapore fell really easily
23:23.37The_RandomnessI shall be back later
23:23.57Wormy_Yes, lots of soldiers got turnd into slaves, which was highly embarrissing
23:24.14TybusenThat was the decisive end of colonialism in Asia
23:25.05TybusenHistory books make a big point out of WWII, for all the people that got killed, was the main reason colonialism collapsed
23:25.32ImpyDroidAll we need now is a (proper) Asian dude to tell us what happened in Chine
23:25.35ImpyDroidChina
23:25.41TybusenI could tell you about the Chinese front
23:26.00ImpyDroidThen lo and behold, we'll have the complete history of the WW2
23:26.04TybusenJapan started invading Manchuria before even the invasion of Poland in 1939
23:26.13Wormy_I'm glad colonilism ended though, the age of empires was obviously not working after two world wars
23:26.30ImpyDroidYeah I know that
23:26.48TybusenChina was getting absolutely brutalized by Japan, and America and Britain were demanding that Japan stop doing that
23:27.16TybusenTo give you an idea of how brutal the Chinese front was, one of the most well-known battles on that front is called the Rape of Nanjing
23:27.39ImpyDroidYes I know about that
23:27.56Wormy_Yes, I know about that
23:27.56TybusenAnyways, at the time, the Guomindang (Chinese Nationalists) were the leaders of China and were in an uneasy alliance with Mao's Communists to fight the Japanese
23:28.07Wormy_dafuk hivemind
23:28.46TybusenA lot of Japan's invasions were coming along China's coastline, which absolutely wrecked wealthy coastal trading cities like Shanghai and Guangzhou
23:29.11TybusenWhich in turn weakened the Nationalists, whose main power base was the aforementioned wealthy coastal trading cities
23:29.36TybusenChina managed to hang in there though long enough for America to have conquered their way to Japan's doorstep
23:30.06TybusenChina played an important role in the Doolittle Raid, which in itself was a significant event in the Pacific front
23:31.09TybusenIf I may digress, the Doolittle Raid was where America launched bombers from the Pacific to attack Tokyo, the only thing was was that the American Navy was too far away from Japan for the bombers to be able to return to the carriers
23:32.01TybusenSo the bombers subsequently landed at Chinese airfields. The Raid made Japan afraid that the home islands were under threat and ultimately made it easier for the American island-hopping strategy as Japan started committing more forces to the main Japanese islands
23:32.13TybusenAnyways, back on to the Chinese front
23:33.16TybusenAs Japan continues to get beaten by the Americans, the Nationalists are able to push back the Japanese forces and reclaim Manchuria, though the Soviets did come in and help take Korea
23:33.37TybusenThen Hiroshima happens, Japan surrenders, China is mostly back to normal
23:33.48TybusenExcept that the Communists and Nationalists still want to kill each other.
23:34.00ImpyDroidThe rest is history
23:34.11TybusenThe Communists win because the Nationalists were weakened by the war with Japan, and that's why China is communist today.
23:37.55ImpyDroidI see
23:38.07ImpyDroidokay ded
23:38.39Wormy_IMO if none f the allies worked together they would have all lost
23:39.08TybusenWell, of course
23:39.47TybusenThe quickest way to get annihilated in war is have internal strife when it happense
23:39.55Wormy_Even Russia, as they really needd that Arctic supply route, if they had lost that aftert Leningrad, well who knows?
23:42.01TybusenOne of the most fun parts of history is the what-ifs
23:44.38HichiUntil it evolves into an inevitable arguement about patriotism
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23:46.04TybusenThat's what happens when the person you try to discuss history with is one of the poor uneducated folk
23:46.27TekDroidBack
23:46.38HichiI still see people who think that the Nazis even had a chance at winning the war
23:47.04HichiIt was all a matter of when the Soviets were gonna get involved
23:47.38TekDroidNazis really screwed up when they invaded the USSR.
23:48.26TybusenThe Nazis, with their industrial power, did actually have pretty favorable odds, the only problem was that Hitler was their leader
23:48.33HichiYup
23:48.51HichiHitler was, contrary to popular belief, an idiot
23:49.15TybusenHe was the very reason why the Nazis lost the Battle of Britain and the invasion of the USSR
23:49.15HichiAnd even then, not all Nazi outposts and territories had the same high-grade technological level
23:50.19Wormy_If the Nazis had taken out the Soviet Union, they would have been unstoppable.   All that food, coal and oil
23:50.57TybusenYeah, the Soviets were easily the Nazis' biggest obstacle to world domination
23:51.28HichiNazis could never have overtaken the Soviets
23:51.31HichiIt was impossible
23:51.43TybusenBecause Hitler was an idiot
23:51.58HichiIt was literally impossible; the Soviets were much more advanced and resourceful than the Nazis as well as had a smart leader
23:52.07Wormy_Are you so sure?  Could the USSR have survived without the Arctic supply route?
23:52.21HichiYou think the Nazis could have taken it out?
23:52.43TybusenThe Nazis could've easily won Leningrad if they had a smarter commander
23:52.46Wormy_They weren't far at Leningrad
23:53.06TybusenFrom what I understand, they lost at Leningrad because Hitler let them get surrounded
23:53.28Wormy_And imagine if the Nais had time to develop nuclear weapons and improve their V2 rockets...
23:53.46MonetSemihttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198037756929/screenshot/902135452893109803 updated Team Sporewiki
23:53.56Wormy_They weren't far
23:54.20HichiFunny how I'm black
23:54.46Wormy_Tybusen  I heard it was because Hitler wanted to starve Leningrad without bombing it to oblivion, so yeah
23:54.54MonetSemiDon't worry, you only got mind-controlled once
23:54.57TybusenThe reason why America invented nukes so quickly was because the Nazis were close to begin with and nobody wanted Hitler to have nukes all to himself
23:55.16TybusenWormy_: Hitler was an inept tactician
23:55.23HichiWhoo
23:55.56Wormy_They also had a boost from Britain, in nuclear weapons and other military tech, since it was moved to the States
23:56.00MonetSemiSo fat the unluckiest members in alternate realities were Xho and dino.
23:56.26TybusenThe Battle of Britain was won by the British because the British got some bombers through to Berlin, which pissed off Hitler enough to focus on annihilating London instead of focusing on British military infrastructure
23:57.09TybusenMeanwhile, everyone was hanging out in the Tube and having a jolly good laugh at Hitler's idiocy
23:57.54MonetSemiBritish ingenuity: We hat an entire network of tunnels for a bomb shelter.
23:57.55Wormy_I heard that if there had been six more raids like Berlin, Germaby might have been crippled then and there, but the cost was impossible as the uboats cut off British industry
23:58.30Wormy_lol
23:58.36TybusenThe Royal Air Force was already stricken to begin with, I think the Berlin raid was extremely lucky to begin with
23:59.05Wormy_Yeah
23:59.09TybusenYou need fighters to protect bombers, and at that time the RAF was using their fighters to fight off the German bombers
23:59.59Wormy_The Americans had the same proble until they developed the P 51

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