IRC log for #sporewiki on 20130929

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00:06.48Hachi_I know it sounds critical of me but I feel Mikasa says "Eren" way too much
00:07.01OluapPlayerMikasa needs to stop being so Eren-centred
00:07.31Hachi_I do like Mikasa, but it's the case where I don't like her as much as the others
00:07.38Hachi_She doesn't really...evolve as a character
00:07.46OluapPlayerYes
00:07.48Hachi_Isayama needs to sort that out quickly
00:08.52Hachi_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3uMu0UfvAU Also found the full AoT OP 1 track
00:12.33OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/5/57/Sanguine_Demon_Form.png bad buni
00:13.55Hachi_holy fuk
00:13.59Hachi_That looks awesome
00:15.10Hachi_Looks a little Xhodocto-y cuz of all dem spikes
00:15.14Hachi_I liek dis
00:16.22OluapPlayerhur
00:16.40OluapPlayerI imagine that's a natural Shidium armor that forms around him when he demon's
00:17.02OluapPlayerAnd as usual, only the eyes are visible
00:17.32OluapPlayerbbs
00:18.42Hachi_I imagine it would be a mix of natural Shidium and Sin mass
00:18.51Hachi_Both of which are incredibly durable and powerful
00:19.46Hachi_OluapPlayer: http://www.twitch.tv/didyouknowgaming JONTRON'S STREAMIN
00:21.25OluapPlayerSpeaking of Sin mass finish Descension Eneryg paeg grrr
00:21.27OluapPlayerand jantran
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00:23.31Hachi_Basic explanation for Sin mass is that it is essentially Descension energy that has either gathered so densely it acts as a solid or it is Descension energy actually converted into solid material
00:23.37Hachi_Both of which is possible hur
00:24.41Hachi_Also, workin on Prodigy's bio
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00:50.25TekDroidHey
00:51.47TekDroidEnjoying my epic seats at this NHL game. :D
01:00.35Hachi_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Prodigy tell me wat u fink
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01:06.10OluapPlayerI hope she's not always angry like in the rp
01:06.17OluapPlayerBecause I found that a bit annoying
01:06.25Hachi_Nah she has her calm moments
01:10.07Hachi_Either she spends time to herself away from people or she's teasing them and being snarky, she's not continually angry
01:10.19Hachi_Because that's Tyraz' job hur
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01:45.03Tek0516Woohoo! Awesome seats and a home team victory!
01:48.02TekDroidWell this was an odd advertisement line: "Ask for a B.R.A."
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01:50.11TekDroidHm... you'd expect the provincial capital's hub station to have either stable signal or public wi-fi.
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01:54.59The_Randomness~poke Liquid_Ink
01:54.59infobotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Liquid_Ink, pokes Liquid_Ink repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
01:55.31Liquid_InkKHAAAAAAAN!
01:55.33Liquid_InkHello.
01:56.03The_RandomnessWe should totally go blow things up together in STO.
01:56.31Liquid_InkI'm hopping off the computer in a few minutes sorry.
01:56.35Liquid_InkMaybe tomorrow?
01:56.35The_RandomnessAh, ok.
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02:03.21TekDroidHey
02:05.38OfficerJackalHey!
02:07.09TekDroidFun physics fact; Any hot object produces high level of radiation.
02:12.25AngrybirdsHey!
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02:31.07DrodoEmpirehey!
02:32.32TekDroidHey
02:33.02TekDroidI'm attempting a little experiment on science knowledge.
02:33.10Darkwarrior101hi
02:33.17Darkwarrior101what do you mean?
02:33.55TekDroidI'm going to post a couple science facts and see the reactions.
02:34.08DrodoEmpireHere?
02:34.19DrodoEmpireOn Facebook? A creationist site? Where?
02:34.42TekDroidNo, on other sites. You people are probably too smart for most of them.
02:34.44DrodoEmpire(BTW you should do the last one, the reactions would be HILARIOUS.)
02:35.05TekDroidHere's the 3 of them:
02:35.07TekDroid1. Any hot object will produce high levels of radiation.
02:35.28TekDroid2. Photon beam technology has existed for over a century, and experiences widespread production and distribution by governments and corporations. Even its earliest form was capable of doing serious damage to parts of the body.
02:35.45TekDroid3. Dihydrogen Monoxide is an interesting chemical. Among many things, it is a key ingredient in many pesticides, is one of the largest contributors to global warming, and is fatal in both large and small quantities. We are exposed to shocking quantities of it every day, and there are no government regulations limiting its use.
02:36.34DrodoEmpireThat second one seems off, or maybe I'm just dumb. XD
02:36.36TekDroidThey have a little trick behind them.
02:36.47DrodoEmpireIn what application where photon beams used?
02:36.52TekDroidPhoton beam = flashlight
02:36.54TekDroidXD
02:36.57DrodoEmpireAh.
02:36.58DrodoEmpireXD
02:37.10DrodoEmpireSo I'm just dumb.
02:37.14TekDroidAlso later lasers, but not the point.
02:37.19DrodoEmpireHm.
02:37.33DrodoEmpireLasers are more half a century/70 or so years ago.
02:37.48TekDroidBut they're still photon beams.
02:37.58DrodoEmpireYeah
02:38.02TekDroidThe flashlight was very late 1800s.
02:38.51TekDroid#3 is actually Water.
02:39.17TekDroid#1 is intended to use misconceptions to cause nuclear scare.
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02:46.33TekDroidWell that test didn't go as hoped. Trying a better source.
02:48.26DrodoEmpireWho did you "test"?
02:50.14TekDroidI tried posting in the global chat of a game I play. Someone pointed out the water bit then the rest scrolled off the chat.
02:50.38DrodoEmpireHm.
02:50.39TekDroidI'm trying it in my region on Nationstates now.
02:52.18TekDroidI should join some creationist forum then see how long I can last before getting kicked out. XD
02:52.28TekDroidOr just a chat even.
02:53.39DrodoEmpireyeah.
02:53.52DrodoEmpirePost the log here or something, I wanna see the reactions. XD
02:54.02TekDroidI would.
02:54.19TekDroidI got 1% battery right now.
02:54.49TekDroidI'll need a quick fact refresh first too.
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03:25.37Zillafire101Hai guys.
03:25.50TekDroidHi
03:26.43Zillafire101You know what I just noticed.
03:27.25TekDroidThe Kansas Board of Education is getting sued for teaching evolution. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4005717?utm_hp_ref=politics
03:27.52Zillafire101I thought America stopped this crap of hateing Darwin.
03:28.24TekDroidTextbook editors in Texas are also trying to get creationism added.
03:29.07Zillafire101Well. That's America for you. Never ceases to amaze.
03:29.17Hachi_Silly goofballs
03:29.18Hachi_Creationism isn't science
03:30.56Zillafire101Oh look, Westboro is targeting ANOTHER person to haress.
03:32.39Zillafire101Huffington should really ignore their angry tyraids.
03:33.16TekDroidI just clicked the first link.
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03:33.44Zillafire101Shelton replied, "Hey WBC.. I've got one more sin for ya... Blow me."
03:33.57Tek0516I remembered this NS post, which is rather fitting. http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=261897&p=16580807#p16580807
03:34.06Zillafire101Lol. Blake Shelton is such a boss now.
03:46.51AeoFuck you Murhica is awesome.
03:47.53Zillafire101He's trolling the Westboro Bitch-ass Catholic church, and that gets points in my book.
04:05.32AeoZillafire101: Are you implying the Westboro Baptist Church are Catholics?
04:06.26TekDroid<PROTECTED>
04:06.31Zillafire101Oh. No, Just a typo. Ignore that. Sory.
05:00.22Zillafire101I'm gotta go.
05:00.32Zillafire101But before I do, I have something to say
05:00.43Zillafire101It's better to burn out, then to fade away!
05:08.55TekDroidJust remembered this trivia bit. IIRC, in mythology the sky is Uranus
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05:24.36TekDroidHi
05:24.50Lord_RaydonHi
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07:05.36JepardiHi
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08:18.00Liquid_InkHello
08:18.37XhoMorning/Evening
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08:39.15ImpyDroidHi
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09:36.24MonetHello
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09:40.12Wormyhi
09:40.46WormyI read Gaseous Ink as Ghelae
09:42.10Gaseous_InkAww
09:42.28Gaseous_InkI miss Ghelae too
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10:46.03MonetHi
10:51.29XhoMorning
11:38.54Gaseous_InkImpy is never around when you want him.
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11:40.08XhoDunno why but my Google Chrome keeps crashing
11:52.20Gaseous_InkI went to write "Finland" in search bar. I accidently wrote "Jepardi"
11:54.12MonetI facepalm whenever something talks about "dimension" in the way that it is another form of define space.
11:54.35MonetA dimension is an espect of reality. There are only 11, they are in no way the same as a universe
11:54.40Monetaspect*
11:56.46MonetUnlike a universe, a higher dimension can seamlessly occupy the same volume of spacetime as a lower one.
11:58.05MonetReferring to a dimension as "a bigger kind of universe" is just...wrong.
11:58.41Gaseous_InkIn the words of Xho: "spu
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12:10.22MonetProbably obvious but after reading up i'm suprised how many spaceships would, in reality, be very unwieldy.
12:10.35Monetthose in science fiction anyway
12:11.03AdmiralPandathat's because most of them are designed without practicality in mind
12:12.01MonetWhen I designed ITN warships I thought "hey, lateral thrusters will be good for maneuverability", turns out any ship is going to *nned* them
12:12.09Gaseous_InkPanda, you live in Brisbane don't you?
12:12.11Monetneed*
12:13.53Monet"ome SF shows go so far bad that they make their spacecraft like boats. Even to the point of stupidly placing the ship's Bridge perched on the "top" where it will be shot off by hostile weapons fire, instead of deep in the core of the ship where it will have some protection" Yes. yes. and Yes.
12:14.37MonetIt always bugged me, if the societies of Star Wars were so advanced ,why the F did the Empire put their star-destroyer bridges on a sticky-out bit at on the ship?
12:14.59MonetIt just screams "look at me! I'm a target!"
12:16.48MonetIt got even worse with the Invisible Hand IMO.
12:17.33MonetOkay, the bridge was closer ot the body (still sticky-out but I digress) however you have Count Dooku's observation drck.
12:19.19XhoVery tempted to buy all of the Sims 3 expansion packs
12:19.32Monethttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070928173415/starwars/images/0/05/InvisibleHandStarboard-DB.jpg can someone PLEASE tell me why you'd put your faction's supreme leader on that horrid sticky-out thing at the top?
12:19.51MonetThe only answer I can think of is "because we haate him and want hi mto die"
12:19.52XhoGot a put a dick somewhere
12:20.27MonetHeh
12:20.44MonetAlso they kept Palpatine on that thingy when they had him captured.
12:21.42XhoBut still very tempted to buy all of the Sims 3 stuff
12:22.03MonetSURELY if you're carrying a HVT the enmy wants to take back you but him somewhere mroe secure and not a deck that looks like a lovely target for a bomber
12:22.21AdmiralPandaInk: Yes I do, why do you ask?
12:22.27XhoIt will cost me £355 which is a little insane
12:23.02XhoThen again my current budget is £1000
12:24.23MonetAfter doing all this reading, i'm going to make a retcon on all ITN ships.
12:24.43MonetThe decks will be vertical, not lateral
12:26.20Gaseous_InkPanda: Did you see Riverfire?
12:33.14MonetActually having the decks vertical, given the designs of the ITN ships, is a good idea in regards to artificial gravity
12:35.08MonetWhen you have a really long ship and use a flattened micro black hole for a-grav, you have this massive space either side of the ship that has gravitational pull for no reason at all. Or, you could  put MBHs at intervals but then there's the issue of the transition area.
12:35.24MonetThis is for lateral-deck ships btw
12:35.37Monethorizontal*
12:39.38Monethttp://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/images/prelimnotes/hardSciFi.jpg  http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/images/prelimnotes/figuringOut.jpg my two big motivations for writing hard sci-fi, not gonna lie
12:39.59Xho403 and 403
12:40.06XhoYep that's how my brain works when it comes to science
12:40.29XhoHachi and I agreed that my fiction is more like fi-sci than sci-fi
12:43.17MonetNo 1 is supposed to say "Hard sci-fi: because the physicists and thermodynamics experts deserve to be entertained as well" and the second was supposed to say "Science: Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up"
12:43.47XhoThe second one I don't agree with hur
12:44.19MonetWell i'm a nerd so the second one does apply to me.
12:44.23Xhohur
12:45.43MonetBut I agree. You stuff does tend to disregard the "science" of "science fiction" a lot, to the point where I've come to accept most if not all your tech is running off Clarke's Third Law.
12:46.10MonetOnly so I don't go insane trying to figure it all out.
12:46.14Xhohur
12:49.30MonetPeople who claim the moon landings are fake: If we've never been to the moon then how come we can fire a laser that boucnes back?
12:49.30XhoKind of a troll moment when you realise that the entire Fiction Universe was based off no science whatsoever
12:50.09MonetXho: Depends where you look IMO
12:50.50MonetNo wait I get what you mean
12:51.07MonetYeah, SPORE and scince = wat da hell!!!
12:51.16XhoOriginally
12:51.27MonetNo, presently.
12:51.35XhoRight
12:51.37XhoWait what
12:51.38MonetOriginally it was more accurate.
12:52.24MonetOne of the drives for making your creature was environmental stimuli (just like in nature)
12:52.50MonetBut that got dumbed down to (what looks cool) along with shockingly basic skill modifieers
12:53.02Monetremove the brackets
12:53.59MonetI realised early on that "damage level 3) = your creature does 3 damage
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12:59.15CyrannianHello!
12:59.56MonetAfternoon
13:04.31Cyrannianbrb
13:20.10MonetRight, now to retcon those decks
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13:26.27TekDroidHi
13:28.41Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Military#Fleet retconned, the number of decks feels excessive I must admit
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13:39.04Xhoiu
13:39.08Xhou
13:39.45OluapPlayeru
13:41.05MonetI've been dissecting the plausability of many spaceships
13:42.34MonetOut of everything my two biggest concerns are: 1) why jut your bridge outside the body of the ship, 2) Why does a warship have glass or transparent armour windows when screens for windows are so much easier.
13:43.24OluapPlayernurd
13:43.27MonetAlso a TV screen for a window is infinitely more versatile.
13:43.34TekDroidAn element of basing starships and their combat off of old naval warfare
13:44.04TekDroidAnd takimg advantage of giant movie effect budgets.
13:44.42MonetIf I don't like the view on my TV screen window I can flick though view "channels", watch TV or access the internet
13:45.11MonetWHY HAS NO MAINSTREAM SCI-FI PROGRAMME THOUGHT OF THIS!
13:45.48TekDroidBecause we think too primitively in teens of their technology.
13:45.53TekDroid*terms
13:46.13MonetAlthough I may have encountered walls that act as ascreens in Steven Baxter's novels.
13:46.14TekDroidBrb, going underground
13:46.41TekDroid~test
13:46.42infobottest is, like, not funny
13:47.32MonetAlthough I think it's more practical to base naval combat off submarine warfare than surface ship warfare
13:47.33TekDroid<PROTECTED>
13:47.48Monetspace combat, not naval combat
13:47.53Monetsorry
13:48.08TekDroidGtg
13:51.58XhoOluapPlayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH_CpwKn7K8&feature=c4-overview&list=UU7iXKf0UUX4dV4DiQ3I91kg charge me herr doktor
13:52.12OluapPlayerI seen dat
13:52.18OluapPlayerMeeM fite
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13:53.30Hachi_Hai
13:54.50XhoI also bought £100 worth of Sims 3 DLCs
13:55.07OluapPlayerbuni
13:55.20OluapPlayerXho: http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/576749904107635890/C467D7DBDB59ED2CD96EB2B221B605C6B4F52694/ Grenadegineer
13:55.56XhoOhdeargineer
13:57.14OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/1ZQknP4.jpg IT'S EASTER TIME
13:57.27Xhohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p490t_6Z9aY Hachi and Kithworto
13:58.06OluapPlayerhur
13:58.50Xhohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_pqnsKWlpc This strikes me as a Santorakh and Nu moment
14:00.31Hachi_Seems like something Santo would do to Hachi
14:00.36OluapPlayerhur
14:01.04OluapPlayerHachi_: "I guess saving his friend cost him an Armin a leg."
14:01.23Hachi_ohgodlol
14:01.33Xho"It comes with a free Kalcedia!"    "That's good!"    "The Kalcedia is also cursed."   "I don't see a downside."
14:01.41Hachi_olol
14:02.02OluapPlayer"It comes with a free Kalcedia!"    "That's good!"    "The Kalcedia has a dik."           "That's better!"
14:02.22Hachi_My sides, help
14:03.02OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/5/57/Sanguine_Demon_Form.png for those who were not here yesterday when I first posted this
14:03.04MonetJust heard a new report From Saudi Arabia about women drivers and I'm not happy.
14:03.47Hachi_Demon Sanguine - tiem 2 twerk
14:04.07MonetSome Sheik claimed "women who drive reisk damaging their ovaries and could give birth to children with numerous defects." Yeah.
14:04.39OluapPlayerKol - dats ma jerb
14:04.42Hachi_olol
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14:05.02XhoDemon Sanguine twerks -> On Santorakh
14:05.07Hachi_My mother drived all the time before she was pregnant and I fine out came
14:05.26MonetThe Middle East: It's hell if you're either a wmoan or you are not heterosexual.
14:06.42AdmiralPandaWelcome to Earth: if you don't follow the minutae of whichever region you're in, you're fucked :)
14:07.01Hachi_Row row fight the powa
14:07.08XhoMiddle East = Medium Difficulty
14:07.32OluapPlayerDemon Sanguine's armor is made of solidified Descension Energy
14:07.36OluapPlayerwrap ur hed around dat
14:07.42Hachi_yus
14:07.43AdmiralPandaPlanet Earth: the Game has four general difficulties
14:07.58MonetI hear Saudi Arabia banned Mass Effect coz hawt lezbo action.
14:08.03XhoSantorakh - now that disgusted even me
14:08.29AdmiralPandaAmerica or Europe (easy), China/other annoying but liveable nations (medium), developing Africa (hard), Australia (Dark Souls)
14:09.09Hachi_Let's not forget that Sanguine isn't weighed down at all despite being covered head to toe in Sin mass
14:09.31MonetSanguine - I am nakid deemun
14:09.38OluapPlayerHe is, yes
14:10.07XhoSantorakh - I regret being twerked on
14:10.23OluapPlayerSanguine - hih
14:10.53Hachi_Putting things into perspective here, Sanguine can match Kol's physical strength
14:11.00Hachi_At normal form
14:11.23Hachi_Considering how much Demon Forms amplify one's strength
14:11.37MonetHot-damn
14:11.39OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/shingekinokyojin/images/7/76/RogueTitan2ndTransformation.jpg "u wanna kno wher im gonna shove dis arm stump"
14:11.55Xhogeezush
14:11.56Hachi_You made me spit out my drink
14:13.01OluapPlayerhur
14:13.38Hachi_So wait
14:13.40Hachi_"2nd Transformation"
14:13.49Hachi_Is that implying that what's going on there is a second form?
14:14.08MonetRogue Titan - This isn't even my final form
14:14.13OluapPlayerI think it means second fight
14:14.18Hachi_o rite
14:14.42OluapPlayer<PROTECTED>
14:14.49OluapPlayerngh my message glitched
14:14.58OluapPlayerPut bunny ears in that and paint it blue and you get Angel Hachi
14:15.04Hachi_hur
14:15.20Hachi_Way I see it, all that fire was due to how Titan's regenerate + Eren getting immensely pissed off
14:15.42OluapPlayeryeah I've seen someone else say it's the regeneration
14:15.49OluapPlayerAt the time I didn't even notice
14:15.58OluapPlayerI was too impressed by the fact he was on fire at all hur
14:16.03Hachi_hur
14:16.24Hachi_I noticed that as the series goes on, Titans regenerate *slower* than how they were described
14:16.48Xhodammit download
14:16.50Xhodownload alredi
14:17.06OluapPlayerPerhaps the oiriginal reports of their regeneration were wrong/exaggerated
14:17.10OluapPlayeroriginal*
14:17.35Hachi_Perhaps, that or the fight passes so quickly that it *looks* like they're regenerating slowly
14:18.09Hachi_Wait, that made no sense
14:18.11Hachi_Lemme rephrase
14:18.31MonetDramatic time dilation?
14:18.50Hachi_Basically, the time that the fight takes is so short that it doesn't allow for complete regeneration of body parts thus it looks like they aren't regenerating
14:19.14Hachi_If you get what I mean
14:20.03OluapPlayerI do
14:20.28MonetI think I do: The regeneration isn't getting less effective, the passage of time slows down for the viewer to see the action.
14:22.18Hachi_Yeah
14:23.17MonetSlightly reminds me of Genrai's battle with an inquisitor.
14:23.23MonetMurangnon's, sorry
14:23.38Hachi_I saw somebody on SnK complaining that Eren developed "plot armour" to win the fight against Annie and said that the main protagonist shouldn't always win
14:23.46Hachi_Yet in their last fight, Eren lost miserably
14:24.25OluapPlayerWell you're not wrong, his full name is Murangon Genral Nal hur
14:24.42MonetI'll call him "Evil Genrai"
14:25.02OluapPlayerOr rather, his name is still Genrai Nal. Murangon is a title, not a name
14:25.31MonetI'm willing to overlook "protagonist always wins" so long as they actually feel the effects of battle
14:25.39OluapPlayerSpeaking of inquisitors, can we continue the rp?
14:25.44Hachi_I see that the anime community and manga community of SnK isn't very co-operative
14:25.45Hachi_Manga guys are pretty much elitists and treat the anime guys like shit because they're forced to not reveal spoilers
14:26.08MonetI think I have time yeah
14:26.13OluapPlayerEren doesn't always wins, he has been defeated quite a few times
14:26.22OluapPlayerHell in his first Titan battle he was devoured alive
14:29.44OluapPlayerhttp://img.gawkerassets.com/img/191gx6ysroqk3png/ku-xlarge.png i control all of u
14:30.21Hachi_Those controller memes make me laugh
14:30.55OluapPlayerhttp://31.media.tumblr.com/0eb9132af2436e8b703c9c4b5ab1dbf1/tumblr_mtr8zoiWDT1rcs5ruo1_400.gif Moxix's club
14:31.21Hachi_They're not showing enough skin
14:31.25OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/7m47fI8.png Parenting with Nu
14:32.49OluapPlayerhttp://www.happletea.com/comics/2012-10-05.jpg Cthulhu's malevolence
14:33.37Hachi_olol
14:35.09MonetI read a rumour that, among other things, Lovecraft was terrified of the sea
14:36.18Hachi_Yeah I heard that
14:36.28Hachi_He would've shit his pants at Jaws
14:38.08Hachi_It's probably why his famous stuff like Cthulhu and Innsmouth are linked the ocean
14:38.33MonetI used to be afraid of wading out to sea, mainly the (now-irrational) fear of slipping off the continental shelf and into the abyss.
14:39.21MonetI now realise that 1) the shelf is pretty deep anyway and 2) Most of my coastal experiences were in The North-East of England, very far away from the shelf.
14:39.33Hachi_hur
14:39.41OluapPlayerhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me5ug0lBFJ1qbogk6o1_400.gif Hachi goes swimming
14:40.02MonetAnd 3) to get to the Euopean shelf I would have needed to travel the breadth of England.
14:40.22MonetAt least, and that's Cornwall
14:40.32Hachi_OluapPlayer: Koluap and Hachi play a game
14:40.40OluapPlayerhur
14:41.01MonetI can RP
14:41.28Monet#TantummodoStuff
14:42.11Hachi_Monet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Prodigy gimme ur quotz
14:42.43MonetUpside to making DI decks stacked like a Skyscraper: A-Grav makes more sense. Downside: All ships have more levels than the Burj Khalifa
14:43.04Hachi_Or a Mario game
14:43.27MonetHehe, true
14:43.50MonetThe Dominax has 2-and-a-half THOUSAND decks
14:44.09Hachi_Geezush
14:45.07MonetAllies section -> Stil lthreatens violent death
14:45.34Hachi_She's only joking about the pike part
14:45.36Hachi_Or is she?
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14:59.22Hachi_"Some fans only refer to the anime by its English name, as not to confuse it with video game company SNK. On Tumblr, a lot of fans use the "snk" tag for posts pertaining to the series. In 2012 one could easily find posts about SNK games under the tag; as of 2013, the tag is overwhelmingly about Attack on Titan. This has made SNK fans very unhappy."
15:00.06OluapPlayerhur
15:06.43AdmiralPandaIsn't this true of most animes that have the title translated?
15:08.19Hachi_I don't like having to say "Attack on Titan" because it's dum rough translation of "Shingeki no Kyojin" (Advancing Giants) but I have to in case nobody understands
15:09.09OluapPlayerI don't see anything wrong with calling it Attack on Titan, even more when the anime itself calls it that
15:10.04Hachi_Well, it implies that somebody is attacking a place/person called "Titan"
15:10.23Hachi_Like how one would say "Attack on X"
15:11.28Hachi_Also I love how the SnK fandom is being torn apart by the anime finale
15:11.43Hachi_Particularly the manga readers
15:13.10OluapPlayerIsn't the manga's writer involving in writing the anime too?
15:13.12OluapPlayerinvolved*
15:13.41Hachi_Yeah he is and he has had say in quite a few of the additional changes, but the anime writers do tend to diverge a little for creative license
15:14.44OluapPlayerWell I found the finale awesome so fuck the ones hating it hur
15:15.00Hachi_hur
15:15.14OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/HX6EeLR.jpg snaik
15:15.24Hachi_Looks like a slug penis
15:15.44OluapPlayerwuh
15:16.12Hachi_Ever seen slugs mate? The snake's position and colour reminds me of that
15:16.19Hachi_http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-08-27/attack-on-titan-spinoff-manga-to-run-in-aria-shojo-magazine btw dis
15:17.23OluapPlayerA manga about Levi?
15:17.47Hachi_Jah, showin his and Erwin's past
15:18.13OluapPlayerThis should be interesting
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15:20.09Hachi_"A minor example, a background soldier resembling a brunette Armin has been referred to on one or two occasions as "Legout." "
15:20.26OluapPlayerhur
15:20.27OluapPlayerdumba
15:20.39Technobliteratorhii
15:20.40Technobliteratorya dad
15:20.52Technobliteratorokay, so I need to get my shit together and do some work around here.
15:21.01TechnobliteratorSoon as Imperios arrives I'm doing stuff
15:27.19MonetSnakes unnerve me slightly, expecially the more massive ones
15:27.36MonetThey're basically muscle and a spine
15:30.34Hachi_OluapPlayer: http://i.imgur.com/tgJwwqo.gif
15:31.14OluapPlayerSarec to Hachi
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15:32.09ImperiosHiya
15:32.21OluapPlayerhello
15:33.12XhoI have a pretty messed up household
15:34.00XhoI have two vampires who are engaged, one of the vampire's sister is a werewolf, a ghost who has a fairy sister who is the girlfriend of a human
15:34.37OluapPlayerHousehold more like zoo hur
15:34.39Hachi_Worse love story than Twilight
15:35.27ImperiosHachi_: Not possible
15:35.42XhoTwilight 4.0 if anything
15:36.05XhoThe only supernatural type I don't have in that family is a witch
15:36.14XhoOr genie but I don't have that expansion
15:38.40Hachi_http://31.media.tumblr.com/f258e5bae9c877f2b48d0b6c0a6e6123/tumblr_mrcz8mzGLp1qcfpf2o1_500.png Still makes me laugh
15:39.01OluapPlayerhur
15:48.33TechnobliteratorImperios: Right, we need to get wiki stuff done
15:48.39ImperiosOkay
15:48.46Imperios...then why did you invite me to Dota?
15:48.55TechnobliteratorI just invited tons of people hur
15:49.09Technobliteratorbut I want to do this simultaneously
15:49.38MonetHAEM
15:49.53MonetNo Dota for u get to work
15:51.12Technobliterator:c
15:51.15OluapPlayer"I need to get my shit together and do some work around here" -> goes to Dota
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15:52.07Technobliteratoragain
15:52.12TechnobliteratorI'm doing the simultaneous
15:52.13Technobliteratorly
15:52.22TekDroidHey
15:53.32Technobliteratorhello
15:53.33MonetNo way you can write fiction and perform many tactics per second
15:53.45Technobliteratoryou don't have actions per second
15:53.48Technobliteratorthat's a starcraft thing
15:55.11MonetYeah but a proper commander doesn't distract himself
15:55.15Monetor herself
15:55.35AdmiralPandaSilly Monet, thinking MOBAs are team games ^.^
15:55.36BusyriosYep! The last time I tried to play and talk simultaneously
15:55.44BusyriosI fed horribly
15:55.51BusyriosThat's why I play GW2 now
15:55.58BusyriosLess pressure
16:00.04BusyriosAlso, I'd like to change Divinarium military titles
16:04.43BusyriosFrom highest to lowest: War Predictor, Predictor Advisor, High Ordinator, Ordinator, Executor
16:04.55BusyriosDoes that sound fitting for the Divinarium
16:06.50Hachi_I guess it does
16:08.17Monet"War predictor" I like the sound of that
16:13.10OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/qlaZkza.jpg
16:16.51BusyriosRadeon officers are all about strategy, there is a reason Venoriel quotes Sun Tzu
16:17.18Busyrios...although I guess that's just a translation convention of some sort and she just quotes her species' own literature on strategy
16:18.02BusyriosSo, the basic idea is that the Divinarium's supreme commander should be the strategist that can predict enemy moves
16:18.08BusyriosHence "War Predictor"
16:24.22Busyrioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature_talk:Radeon/Masaari_Crusade
16:24.30Busyrios...Koluap has a SporeWiki account now?
16:25.10OluapPlayerhur
16:25.57BusyriosI should find a way to depict a Radeon salute
16:26.52OluapPlayerhttp://img.pr0gramm.com/2013/09/26.gif oh lol
16:28.23BusyriosTail and head erect, ears turned upward, arms in an X-shape
16:30.09BusyriosWhich reminds me
16:30.13BusyriosIf Anderson was born in lond
16:30.17Busyrios*London
16:30.22BusyriosWhy doesn't he sound British
16:32.24OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/M859j5q.gif
16:33.13MonetHe's an admiral. Probably spent a lot of time with americans
16:33.46BusyriosIt's actually kinda weird
16:34.15BusyriosI love British accents but it is harder for me to understand them in conversation in comparison to the American ones
16:35.03BusyriosWhich is weird
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17:07.43Hachi_Hai
17:08.04MonetHi
17:08.20OluapPlayerreturn of the dum
17:10.57BusyriosHai
17:12.54XhoThose DLCs were well spent
17:13.28Xhobrb cause my Google Chrome's messed up
17:14.03Hachi_FIREFOOOOOOOX
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17:18.51Xhoded irc is ded
17:19.00OluapPlayerded Xho is ded
17:19.20Xhoded
17:22.53XhoOluapPlayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqghG2U1S10&feature=c4-overview&list=LL7iXKf0UUX4dV4DiQ3I91kg
17:23.25OluapPlayerHeavy's time was ogre
17:23.34Xhohur
17:26.41XhoNeeds more Arsac plot
17:27.35BusyriosXho: So Shrek is a cockatrice?
17:28.05MonetXh: We're just-about ready for you
17:28.19MonetWe did a bit while you were playing SIms.
17:28.45BusyriosGah
17:28.52BusyriosI wanted to say something but then I forgot
17:28.53BusyriosNgh
17:29.55ImperiosAh yes
17:30.10ImperiosI am going to start working on the SDFU now that they're going to appear in Fog War
17:30.19MonetFINALLY
17:31.11ImperiosAnd, you know, I wonder what could I do with their culture... you know, perhaps I could add some Byzantine elements to them in addition to their Russianness?
17:31.39ImperiosThey're foils of some sort to the DI, so it would make sense for them to be the East to the Imperium's West
17:32.42MonetTrue but wasn't the East partially-influenced by Middle Eastern cultures.
17:33.00Monet"Mordati - This is a pity. Even though my allegance lies with the the Devourer for now and all eternity, it is a loss that such art and design [a cathedral] would all have gone to waste, especially within such a cultured civilization [the imperium]. | Mar-Júun - Cultured. Hmpf." >> Mar-Juun displying tpyical Basileus racism
17:33.45Imperios>Middle Eastern cultures
17:34.14ImperiosAnd the SDFU is astrographically close to Segmentum Crepusculum, which has Middle Eastern motifs among other things
17:34.24MonetOkay true.
17:35.11ImperiosFirst to make Generalissimus Venaliy
17:35.42Imperioshttp://ashlyahtin2.narod.ru/photo2.jpg he is partially inspired by one of the Soviet gensecs, his outfit in particular
17:35.45ImperiosLook at his chest
17:35.56MonetI remember Nirndal voiced his disgrace at his brother because the latter forgot what basileus superiority really was about
17:37.04MonetWhich is that they enjoy having one of the most sophisticated cultures in Cyrannus
17:37.19ImperiosBasically Nirndal pointed that MJ wasn't posh enough
17:37.30ImperiosAnd should buy at least one more tophat
17:37.45MonetImperios: More like Nirndal pointed out MJ forgot what made Basileus so posh
17:37.54ImperiosYeah
17:38.18MonetMJ's logic as far as I ca ntell is "Basileus are posh because we always have been, no arguments"
17:39.33OluapPlayerMar-Júun is power-hungry to the point it made him a monster
17:39.40OluapPlayerThat's why Nirndal consider him a disgrace
17:40.10MonetDidn't theyboth end up voicing they thought the other forgot what being Basileus was about?
17:40.49OluapPlayerThey did, and Mar-Júun was argument was that power = might
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17:41.56MonetI like Mordati. He's a loyal servant, dedicated to his master to the end, but isn't wholly biased
17:42.25TekDroidHello
17:42.44MonetI'd call him one of if not the most sane out of all modern servants
17:43.12Monetor, if not the most dane, the least judgemental
17:43.17Monetsane*
17:43.38OluapPlayerHe did bring his species to the blink of extinction due to his zeal for the Corruptus
17:43.59MonetYeah but that was a long time ago
17:45.16Hachi_Doesn't regret it
17:45.37MonetLeast judgemental then
17:46.46MonetHe's not entirely "ew, mortals" as everyone else and does posess at least some desire to preserve what the Corruptus destroy
17:47.13Hachi_He's nice for a Corruptus
17:47.54Hachi_It's why he gave the Tantum team the option to leave the Realm of  Dreams rather than kill them
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17:53.42ImperiosMonet: He's the calmer one, yes
17:53.45ImperiosWhich reminds me
17:54.00ImperiosNext time I assume direct control of ms. Greenmouse
17:54.10ImperiosWe and OP could expand on her personality
17:54.14ImperiosRight now she's rather... bland
17:55.19XhoDo Arsac section nao
17:55.43MonetIf everyone's up for more Arsac stoof.
17:56.24OluapPlayerlemme finish this playthrough i'm having
17:56.26OluapPlayerI'm nearly done
17:56.44Hachi_Ugh, Close Encounters was a stupid movie
17:56.55Hachi_I dunt care what people say
17:58.13MonetIt was a box office hit
17:58.27Hachi_So? Doesn't make it a sensical movie
17:59.17MonetI know but it does mean people are more likely to assume it was good
17:59.36Hachi_Why would UFOs cause your toys to come to life? Or why would you immediately greet supposed abductees with handshakes and hugs after they JUST walked out of an alien spaceship without quarantine? Or why would you send somebody to go LIVE with these aliens when you have no idea of their motives?
17:59.41MonetConformity and collectiveopinion
17:59.45XhoThat's true
17:59.56XhoBut everyone likes One Direction and they're musically inept
18:00.11MonetSee what I mean?
18:02.03MonetCourse, a lot of people, thanks to Star Trek and Star Wars, forget how dangerous an unchecked foreign agent is
18:02.29MonetOr that aliens will most-likely have differieng biochemistries are
18:03.05ImperiosTuwian
18:03.55Hachi_Also, why the hell would an advanced civilization that is capable of FTL travel, biological immortality (the abductees never aged while they were onboard) and remotice kinetic abilities use advanced visual Morse-code to communicate?
18:04.09Hachi_remote*
18:04.20MonetBecause it's basic?
18:04.48MonetIf you're going to communicate it's easier to rely on visual signals than transmissions
18:05.06OluapPlayeryeeey I won
18:05.12OluapPlayerrite I'm available now
18:05.15MonetFor all we know their transmittters are too advanced to broadcast radio waves.
18:05.49Imperios>My part of Tantum starts >suddenly everybody wants to do subplots
18:05.52MonetThat's the one issue that scientists at SETi have with beaming a message into space: There's no way of knowing if the aliens on the other end can recieve it.
18:06.17ImperiosI guess that my plots are boring hur
18:06.18OluapPlayerExcept this subplot started before your plot
18:06.21OluapPlayerDon't be a dick
18:06.35XhoWell there needs to be more than the main plot
18:06.47XhoI have a plot that is pending and not suceeding well
18:06.51Xhosucceeding
18:06.56XhoOluapPlayer: dam u rp nao
18:07.02ImperiosOluapPlayer: I'm okay with that
18:07.07ImperiosSorry if I offended you
18:08.04OluapPlayer#TantummodoStoof git
18:08.19Xho#TantummodoMortem u dum
18:09.12OluapPlayery u make another chat
18:09.19Xhocuz dats da rite channel
18:09.24Xhodat always da channel
18:09.33OluapPlayershup go make Sins
18:09.42Xhoshup go do rp
18:09.53OluapPlayerNag Monet not me hur
18:10.42XhoMonet: it is tiem herr dragon
18:11.20MonetI'm on #TantummodoStuff
18:15.22Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Generalissimus_Venaliy.png VODKA BALALAIKA GORBACHEV PERESTROIKA
18:15.44Hachi_hoo dis
18:16.35ImperiosDrasheril military commander and representative
18:16.48OluapPlayerCorruptus - fugly
18:16.56XhoVenaliy - Моё судно на воздушной подушке полно угрей
18:17.23MonetDat a lot of medals
18:23.01ImperiosMonet: Venaliy's somewhat of a showoff
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18:32.54ImperiosMonet: Will you mind if I use some elements of the Imperium flag for the SDFU seal?
18:32.58Imperios*Coat of Arms, whatever
18:33.35MonetWhat elements were you thinking?
18:33.41ImperiosThe heads, mostly
18:34.25ImperiosI just need to take the head image, I might be good at effects but I'm no artist when it comes to computers
18:35.11MonetOkay, that's fine although i'm curious why the Drasheril would use the double-dragon symbol
18:35.43ImperiosThey won't
18:35.59ImperiosThey will have a draconic symbol but theirs will resemble a hydra
18:36.12ImperiosAs a symbol of their "unity in diversity"
18:44.06Xhohttp://www.omniglot.com/conscripts/uqoi.htm And I thought I made Kicathian hard
18:46.31OluapPlayerwot da fok
18:46.49XhoIt's time to think hard now hur
18:48.10OluapPlayermake deemu language
18:48.13OluapPlayerdeemun even
18:48.26XhoOluapPlayer: that's a way to pass time at work hur
18:49.45OluapPlayerhur
18:50.59Hachi_https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1377209_628840883823404_539844454_n.jpg
18:51.32OluapPlayerdat face
18:52.48XhoI think for a wiki rule all language pages should have Article 1 of the Declaration of Human Rights translated on their page
18:53.30OluapPlayerhur
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18:56.35Technobliteratorhii
18:57.33OluapPlayerdumba
18:58.44Technobliteratorya dad
19:15.18Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kicath/Kicathian_Language#Translation There we go
19:16.13MonetI don't think my tongue is that flexible
19:16.43XhoThat's not even the complicated version hur
19:18.48Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tantummodo_Mortem/Tarefnar#An_Inquisitor.27s_Abode there, read up
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19:30.17ImpyDroidHi
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20:04.33Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Dracid#Translations dere translated
20:04.42MonetHad to make a fe wchanges because cultures
20:05.03ImpyDroidDamn
20:05.36ImpyDroidI just checked out the IRC after looking at the Dracid page and then this
20:05.42ImpyDroidHow do you read my mind
20:06.27MonetSyNcHrOnIcItY
20:06.52ImpyDroidWhich reminds me
20:07.00MonetI'm in yer brain, sharing yer thoughts
20:07.11ImpyDroidWhat is Dracid for "second"
20:07.39MonetKiuskga
20:08.05MonetKiusga*
20:11.58ImpyDroidI see
20:12.36ImpyDroidI was thinking that "the Second Imperium" could be the more informal name for the SDFU
20:14.13ImpyDroidKiosai Dominikos in Drasheril dialect, Dominicus Kiusga in High Dracid
20:15.23ImpyDroidSimilar to how Moscow was called "the Third Rome"
20:16.05MonetPeter the Great's idea?
20:16.38ImpyDroidHm
20:17.09MonetActually probably not since he wanted to make hims ark by building a metropolis plus two massive palaces in one lifetime.
20:17.18Monethis mark*
20:17.51ImpyDroidI think it started earlier
20:18.02ImpyDroidBack when Constantinople fell
20:18.17MonetSounds like a good idea
20:18.42Monet"the Legit Roman Emprie is gone. Let's dub our own capital Nova Roma!"
20:19.56MonetThing is, the Russian Empire was an attempt (like many others) to be a successor to the old Roman Empire. I'm not sure if that logic works os well with the SDFU...
20:20.20MonetUnless what they want is "An imperium but with more equalit and stuff"
20:21.51ImpyDroidThis could also be a similar case to North and South Korea; both sides claiming to be legitimate Koreas/Imperiums
20:22.32Hachi_Kim Jung Ultanos
20:23.25ImpyDroidAnd in our case the legitimate successors of the pre-House War Imperium
20:23.56MonetAnd if the name "Federal Union" is anything to go by I predict the SDFU to be a progressive society with government death squads, propaganda and shokcing sapient rights violations.
20:25.57MonetTangent time: If anyone notices that "Arda'onis" sounds like "Drak'Onis" it's because they refer to Earth as Arda.
20:26.34ImpyDroidDenizens of Earth
20:26.53ImpyDroidTolkien fanboy Draconis hur
20:27.29MonetWell it's more original than calling earth "Terra" which basically means dirt.
20:27.58MonetDraconis - Lol stoopid humans calling their planet "ground".
20:28.50MonetAlthough I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of aliens call their planet "land" in some form or another
20:29.32MonetSince back i ncaveman days you have three basic scenses: Land, sea and sky.
20:29.56MonetOr what's the word...aspects of reality?
20:30.52ImpyDroidyeah
20:31.08ImpyDroidSea god, sky god, earth god(dess)
20:31.12TekDroidAll things considered, calling your planet their word for things like ground made sense.
20:31.34TekDroidAdd in fire and you got the 4 elements.
20:31.51ImpyDroidWhat does Alcanti mean?
20:32.15MonetYou know i'm not sure.
20:33.00MonetMiminan Draconis were dominant so they could have named it in relation to how one key biome is a big flat plain
20:34.07Monet"solidity" may be?
20:34.24ImpyDroidyah
20:34.40MonetSince unlike us, Draconis, even in ancient times, spent a lot of time in the air
20:35.09Monet"Aldra" means "light" though.
20:35.32TekDroidBeing Airborne might also have aided early science like curvature of the planet.
20:37.09TekDroidI was recently considering how astronomical details might have affected those ancient science.
20:37.49MonetI think they can fly to a maximum altitude of 4-6km before oxygen deprivation kicks in for them
20:38.06MonetAldra's atmosphere is slightly denser than our own at sea level
20:38.14MonetAlcanti's*
20:38.31TekDroidAll of the Farengeto's main species are also like that.
20:39.51MonetAlso regarding astronavigation you're going to need some very advanced computers because flying by eye isn't going to work entirely well
20:40.01MonetWhen going interstellar
20:40.42TekDroidWhat are you referring to?
20:42.19MonetWell, say I wanted to fly to Alpha Draconis in the constellation of Draco
20:43.29TekDroidI take KSP as evidence of how complex space travel routes.
20:43.51MonetFirst, the AD i'm seeing is where it was roughly 200 years ago and stellar drift means that it's moved a few light years since the light my observatory is picking up first left the star
20:44.00Monet300*
20:44.18TekDroidOh yes, that too
20:44.34MonetEven if i got there within a decade there's another problem.
20:45.28MonetFirst, constellations will be way different, second, even if you look back towards Sol, you're seeing it as it was 300-odd years ago.
20:45.36TekDroidEven the moon has a delay of over a second.
20:46.23MonetEven if you do have a list of stars within vicinity of AD, even *those* would have moved.
20:47.38MonetSo an established spacefaring nation must have some other form of navigation
20:48.29MonetSince every star system will have its own sets of constellations
20:49.04TekDroidNothing will negate the need for those systems
20:49.31MonetOh no, it might be good for finding where you want to go
20:50.04TekDroidBit you'd probably still need some kind of computer system.
20:50.58MonetYour navigational computer is going ot need a pretty large library of constellations at different angles to know where to go.
20:51.26TekDroidSpecifically the original use of the term, not just the common modern definition
20:52.13TekDroidWell you really just need to at least know relative positions from a reference point.
20:53.45TekDroidWe can already calculate the motion of visible stars, and with drift taken into account you can make some decent extrapolation.
20:55.27MonetCOnstellations are groups, yes but take Orian: Mintaka, one of the stars, is 350ly-or-so away. Bellatrix on the other hand, is 1,200ly away
20:55.34MonetOrion*
20:55.47Monetother way around
20:56.09MonetBellatrix = 250ly, Mintaka = 1200ly
20:58.31TekDroidBut if you were to go to a star like Bellatrix, by simply using extrapolated drift and reference point star you could probably figure out the details.
20:58.57TekDroid*reference point stars
20:59.56MonetDefinitely going to need a computer
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21:00.06TekDroidI won't deny that.
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21:00.19MonetHi
21:00.20XhoWell that took longer than I thought
21:01.18MonetCan we finish off?
21:01.35OluapPlayergit bak to chat
21:02.00TekDroidBut as long as you jump to a point where at least a couple known stars are visible, a properly programmed computer should be able to work out the details, and even fill in blanks.
21:05.37Hachi_dum
21:06.00OluapPlayeru dum
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21:26.38TechnobliteratorMonet Hachi_: Has imp talked to you about MA at all?
21:26.50Hachi_N-N-N-Nope
21:27.07Technobliterator:c
21:27.15MonetAnything about it in particular?
21:27.30TechnobliteratorI'm not sure he wants me to reveal too many ideas on this chat
21:27.43Technobliteratorbut one thing suggested was, that his section is a sort of a wrap up to the Andromeda 'arc' in MA
21:28.01Technobliterator(as after his, I'll go somewhere else, maybe the Milky Way or Borealis)
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21:31.05WormyHello
21:31.27TekDroidHello
21:31.30MonetHi
21:31.39Technobliteratorhey wormy, can I spoke to you regarding some fiction stuff?
21:33.04Aeobbl
21:33.23WormyYes you can
21:33.33TekDroidThere's one problem pointed out about post-scarity that interests me... what about things that are natural scarce, e.g. concert tickets?
21:34.23MonetThat why I said the Imperium is post-scarcity but still has a form of currency; somethings can never be of infinite abundance
21:36.30TekDroidEven something as simple as housing is an example.
21:37.07MonetNot everyone can own 234 Dury Way
21:37.25TekDroidExactly. Whereever that is.
21:38.50WormyWell, why would the concert need paying for, and why would private land the cvoncert is being held on need paying for?
21:39.35WormyAnd space shouldn't be a problem, espcially if you go to a concert virtually.
21:41.18WormyA postscarcity societty is so different to ours we can't really apply our limits.  I'm sure a postscarsity has limits though.
21:41.24MonetWhat if there are 800 billion people who want to see the concert?
21:41.41TekDroidI suppose it would be first come, first serve
21:43.40WormyNot a problem for computing or even unknown tech they might have in the future, powered by say, star, and conducted by superconducting materials
21:44.06TekDroidI think you lost me.
21:44.20MonetI think even in the future you'd get pepole who'd want to go there in the flesh
21:44.31TekDroid^
21:44.35WormyVirtual lag
21:45.14WormyBut what if our feeling of flesh changes?
21:45.58TekDroidWe're still talking about physically being somewhere.
21:46.22WormyI am 100% certain Humanity will never be without limits or problems or unknowns, just not our parochial concerns
21:46.27MonetOKay let's try another example...housing. What if 8 billion people on a planet wanted to live in a duplex?
21:46.59XhoI read duplex as dulux and I was wondering "why the hell would 8 billion people live in a can of paint"
21:47.04WormyBut that scenario isn't realistic
21:47.13Hachi_Sounds like a torture method
21:47.30WormyUnless we were say, the Borg
21:47.33OluapPlayer"TAKE HIM TO THE PAINT ROOM"
21:48.30Xho"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH"
21:48.59OluapPlayerSantorakh-in-a-can
21:58.32WormyPaint my room Santorakh!
21:58.58OluapPlayerCheese paint
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22:28.49Liquid_InkHello.
22:29.33Liquid_InkI had a dream we were all partying at my house.
22:29.34TekDroidHi
22:30.49WormyI bet I was raiding the drinks hur
22:32.14Liquid_InkAt some stage I was trying to hug you.
22:32.38MonetIs it possible to be drunk in a dream?
22:32.39Wormyawww
22:34.07Liquid_InkApparently.
22:34.11WormyI have been
22:35.50WormyI've been high in dreams as well
22:37.23Wormytest
22:38.22Liquid_InkI also remember discussing adding a godrace outdoing the Ayrai'Shikua to you while Xho growled behind me.
22:38.54XhoIf you can outdo the Xhodocto now all I can say is fair play
22:39.00XhoI've done enough to cement them
22:42.57Liquid_InkAs I explain my outdoing the Xhodocto idea to Wormy I started dreaming about the SLenderman in my grandparent's house.
22:45.07WormyHe's ciming to
22:45.18Wormyget you, Liquid In
22:45.19Liquid_Inkciming?
22:45.56Wormyphail
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23:28.30OluapPlayerHachi_: http://i.imgur.com/Brz9voC.jpg
23:28.40Hachi_olol
23:28.52Hachi_Imma update, retcon and edit the Beastmen
23:29.34OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz62yUGdibk&feature=player_embedded Waweegee
23:33.00Hachi_So yeah
23:33.03Hachi_Fantasyverse editin
23:33.16OluapPlayeris gud
23:33.24OluapPlayermoar pages for u to finish
23:56.07Hachi_Hmm, I wonder what the Koldenwelt equivalent of Gaia would be called
23:58.13WormyIsiri
23:58.20Hachi_rite

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