| 00:01.25 | Hachi_ | Why do you say sorry so often? |
| 00:01.31 | Wormy | Probably not. |
| 00:02.13 | Wormy | I'm not even that interested in interstellat travel when we have a solar systm to explore and exploit. |
| 00:02.53 | Hachi_ | I'd like to step on Mars one day |
| 00:03.10 | Hachi_ | Even if I'm not the first guy there, I'd still like to go there |
| 00:03.39 | Ridley99 | I'd skinny dip on neptune. I jest.' |
| 00:04.33 | Wormy | I want to make snowmen on Enceladus. |
| 00:04.52 | Ridley99 | Kites on Jupiter. |
| 00:05.45 | Hachi_ | Probably not on/in Jupiter |
| 00:05.52 | Hachi_ | It's uninhabitable for human life |
| 00:06.03 | Hachi_ | Like, no amount of terraforming will change that |
| 00:06.08 | Hachi_ | It's completely out of reach |
| 00:06.21 | Hachi_ | I'd like to see it become a star though, like in Space Odyssey |
| 00:07.36 | Ridley99 | I;d moon the moon. |
| 00:08.33 | Hachi_ | Europa's seas will melt and Europa's underwater life shall undergo evolution that humans shall observe |
| 00:12.48 | Wormy | Titan in some 3-4 billion years will be an interesting place. |
| 00:13.00 | Hachi_ | How so? |
| 00:13.38 | Wormy | The expanding Sun will melt Titan's ice, and it is covered in lakes of hydrocarbons and organic molecules, all very complex. |
| 00:14.11 | Wormy | If it hasn't spawned life not as we know it already, I am 100% sure it will. |
| 00:14.45 | Hachi_ | Then we must launch an |
| 00:14.46 | Hachi_ | Attack on Titan |
| 00:15.32 | Wormy | Humans will probably long dead by then, a tiny formation of rock with a chemical smear being our only evidence. |
| 00:17.06 | Wormy | Or maybe we are gods hur |
| 00:20.13 | Tybusen | Here's a theory, hear me out |
| 00:20.19 | Tybusen | What if |
| 00:20.45 | Tybusen | intelligent life on Titan emerges, and it turns out to be humanoid - just very small |
| 00:21.41 | Tybusen | the human try to invade and devastate much of Titan except for a big walled community of Titanians |
| 00:21.51 | Hachi_ | ech |
| 00:22.01 | Tybusen | That has led to a stalemate in the Titanian-Human war |
| 00:22.15 | Tybusen | So really, the Titans in Attack on Titan are humans |
| 00:22.18 | Tybusen | *dramatic chords* |
| 00:22.28 | Hachi_ | Except they're anything but human |
| 00:22.35 | Hachi_ | You really need to watch the show |
| 00:22.48 | Tybusen | eh, I should |
| 00:23.12 | Tybusen | But watching animes is low on my priority list right now |
| 00:23.20 | Ridley99 | What haapens to a pred creature, friendly tribe? |
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| 00:24.53 | Wormy | Perhaps the Earth humans are big and slow to the fast-processing brains of the Titanians |
| 00:25.17 | Hachi_ | As Oluap says |
| 00:25.18 | Hachi_ | Silly human-like aliens |
| 00:27.11 | Hachi_ | What's funny is that while aliens may be incomprehensible to us, we could be incomprehensible to aliens |
| 00:27.17 | Hachi_ | So aliens aren't always superior |
| 00:28.02 | Wormy | Thats an idea thats occured in a few hard sf's |
| 00:28.38 | Wormy | In fact in the Xeelee Sequence, there are seriously tweaked humans that inhabit neutron stars and other weird environments |
| 00:28.58 | Wormy | Some of them forget their origins |
| 00:29.01 | Tybusen | Aliens - What is love? |
| 00:29.59 | Wormy | Stephen Baxter once said aliens might be more interested with greeting the bacteria in Obama's gut or communicating with Washington DC as a superorganism. |
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| 00:31.10 | Tybusen | Aliens - This Washington DC intrigues us because it appears to live in an entirely different universe from the rest of this place called "America". |
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| 00:33.39 | Wormy | Hmm, what if aliens could see in radio? |
| 00:34.10 | Wormy | "Earth-based radiotelescope transmitters, TV and radio broadcasting antennae, and BMEWS defense radars would appear as hot and bright as the unshielded surface of the sun to the alien’s eyes. When our military radar first scans the incoming spacecraft, it may be interpreted as an act of war. A beamed radio "welcome" signal would fare no better." |
| 00:34.26 | Wormy | "After all, would we take kindly to a megawatt optical laser beam trained on our vessel as we came in for a landing on another world?" |
| 00:35.14 | Wormy | I got that from this http://www.xenology.info/Xeno.htm |
| 00:40.54 | Tybusen | There might be some Required Secondary Powers at play since I don't imagine a radio-sight species would get much farther than the 1900s in technology due to that being the mass propagation of radio waves in the world, meaning they either developed technology to shield their eyes from radio waves or perhaps have some kind of xenotechnology, I don't know |
| 00:41.43 | Tybusen | Though I can see your point in that a species like that wouldn't necessarily know that alien species don't all see in radio waves |
| 00:42.00 | Wormy | They could have used lasers to transmit information. |
| 00:42.14 | Tybusen | They'd be confused by the massive radio anomaly that is Earth and then get pissed off when we try to communicate with them |
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| 00:42.53 | Tybusen | Also, I don't think humans emit radio waves, would we be invisible to them? |
| 00:43.03 | Wormy | I doubt that is really a problem for technology. |
| 00:45.28 | Wormy | Since radio waves have amplitudes on the macro-scale we might look like fuzzy shadows |
| 00:46.48 | Tybusen | Even if we could communicate with them, they have a completely different language so they wouldn't understand us |
| 00:47.31 | Tybusen | "Greetings, we are pleased to meet you" could mean "Piss off, leave our planet or die" in their language, even |
| 00:47.40 | Wormy | I'm in the camp that even mathematics and logic in unreliable in communication with aliens. |
| 00:47.47 | Wormy | *is |
| 00:48.21 | Tybusen | Well, mathematics and logic are both communicated through language, and language is the singlemost largest barrier between communication with aliens |
| 00:48.31 | Tybusen | Especially aliens who have never met or observed us before |
| 00:48.36 | Wormy | Helical aliens would have different calculation for pi. Aliens living in fluids won't be able to draw geometric shapes but might have their own unique fluid-logic. |
| 00:49.35 | Wormy | So there's a sense batter, then a conceptual barrier. |
| 00:49.41 | Tybusen | I imagine we could try to communicate the concept of numbers to them with success, numbers are a fairly basic concept to any intelligent life |
| 00:49.51 | Wormy | with language in the latter |
| 00:49.53 | Tybusen | The only problem being language once again |
| 00:50.12 | Wormy | But then so is geometry. The Greeks actually saw numbers as geometric forms. |
| 00:51.04 | Tybusen | I feel though that aliens and humans would at least be able to both know how to count in ways either of them could understand |
| 00:51.14 | Hachi_ | court* |
| 00:51.20 | Tybusen | shup |
| 00:51.25 | Tybusen | not what i mean |
| 00:51.43 | Hachi_ | *SEX |
| 00:51.55 | Tybusen | sacrifices Hachi_ to the sex aliens |
| 00:52.06 | Hachi_ | k den |
| 00:52.11 | Wormy | If the two sentient races had enough reason to study each other's life cycles through science, then perhaps communication and an eventual language can be created. |
| 00:52.29 | Wormy | Reason as in, reasoning ability |
| 00:53.07 | Tybusen | Most aliens that come to Earth would have to probably be more advanced than us in technology since humanity has barely even placed one of its own beyond their own planet's orbit |
| 00:53.35 | Hachi_ | What is the possibility of aliens that are commonly portrayed within the Sporewikiverse existing realistically? |
| 00:53.49 | Wormy | Those aliens might be very competant in this area if they came to new races just to talk. |
| 00:54.10 | Hachi_ | As in, their civilization can theoretically be understood and compared to humanity's own |
| 00:54.39 | Wormy | I think the majority of fiction here is very anthropocentric. |
| 00:55.01 | Tybusen | If anything, I think an alien race that is aware of our existence is probably smart enough to know that language and logic prevent communication between us, so I'd imagine any alien who willingly visits Earth must have already studied us thoroughly. |
| 00:55.02 | TekDroid | Personally I feel at least some traits are bound to be repeated between other worlds |
| 00:55.05 | Wormy | Though there are plenty of examples bending towards the anti-humanist direction |
| 00:55.09 | Hachi_ | Do you think there could be anthropocentric-like life in our Universe alongside true aliens? |
| 00:55.23 | Wormy | No reason why there is not. |
| 00:56.10 | Wormy | But afterall, sci-fi strives for at least some anti-anthropocentricism |
| 00:56.47 | Tybusen | due to the sheer amount of planets in the universe that should be able to support and propagate intelligent life, I think at least one of the Wikiverse alien societies exists in the universe or will exist |
| 00:57.03 | Tybusen | There has to be at least one |
| 00:57.31 | TekDroid | I wonder whether evolutionary trends really do repeat themselves, or if the universe is full of truly alien life. |
| 00:57.50 | TekDroid | It's probably the big question with alien lifem |
| 00:58.10 | Tybusen | That's true |
| 00:58.18 | Wormy | They repeat themselves a lot, and it is possible that the physics of this universe only allows for a narrow range. |
| 00:58.57 | TekDroid | We have a very limited sample, so it remains a great mystery. |
| 01:00.02 | Wormy | The universe is full of complicated things however |
| 01:00.08 | Tybusen | On an Earth-like planet with Earth-like conditions, I'd imagine the the trends would be similar. I can't say the same about alien worlds, which are far more common than Earth-like worlds |
| 01:00.21 | Wormy | We are just one manifestation of emergence. |
| 01:00.54 | TekDroid | We don't even know what might happen on alien worlds, and if those types could even support life. |
| 01:01.25 | Wormy | We don't even know if life is restricted to planets. |
| 01:01.49 | Tybusen | Perhaps humanity is a great exception to universal evolutionary trends, maybe evolutionary trends favor large reptilians but humanity lucked out with the Cretaceous extinction |
| 01:01.51 | Wormy | It could be in such exotica as neutron stars or so on |
| 01:02.21 | Wormy | Evolution never trends towards anything in my opinion. |
| 01:02.38 | Wormy | In fact, it doesn't always select the survival of the fittest. |
| 01:03.21 | Tybusen | The unfit can get lucky |
| 01:03.47 | TekDroid | Bad mutations can survive. |
| 01:04.28 | Wormy | Yep, like the Peacock's large feathers. |
| 01:04.53 | Tybusen | Again, maybe in truth evolution does not favor the fittest, and humans are an exception, we just believe in survival of the fittest only because humans are the only greatly successful species we can observe |
| 01:05.36 | Tybusen | From a statistical standpoint, we have a sample size of 1, which, based on all rules of statistics, is too small to make any kind of assumption or conclusion on |
| 01:05.43 | TekDroid | Maybe evolution even favours non-sentience |
| 01:05.54 | TekDroid | I definitely agree there. |
| 01:06.05 | Tybusen | Until we can observe more alien life, we cannot make any conclusive statement on the nature of life in the universe. |
| 01:06.15 | Wormy | A species can become extinct from sufficiently large disadavantages imposed by genes. |
| 01:07.07 | Tybusen | I know that one reason why they're having trouble trying to reintroduce the passenger pigeon is because they had absolutely suicidal nesting methods |
| 01:07.11 | Wormy | I think in humans, something more than just biological success has occured. |
| 01:07.24 | Wormy | Take, creativity |
| 01:07.31 | Wormy | Ideas |
| 01:07.35 | Wormy | Memes |
| 01:07.42 | Wormy | They all evolve as well. |
| 01:07.46 | Wormy | As replicators |
| 01:08.03 | Tybusen | Cultural evolution |
| 01:08.46 | TekDroid | Our mind is so complex that even we cannot yet fully understand it. |
| 01:09.01 | Wormy | With meme evolution, the selection occurs in human minds. Unfortunately many memes are harmful and regressive. |
| 01:09.32 | Tybusen | It runs contrary to the traditional idea that evolution favors the fittest |
| 01:09.40 | Wormy | But in the last few centuries of science, the right criteria have allowed for progressive memes to evolve |
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| 01:09.56 | Tybusen | Ah, yes |
| 01:10.06 | TekDroid | Evolution favours only those who reproduce |
| 01:10.28 | Wormy | I now look at the last 100,000 years of human stagnation as a tragedy that fills me with anger. |
| 01:10.40 | BNSC | Hello |
| 01:10.44 | Wormy | hi |
| 01:10.49 | TekDroid | Hey BNSC. |
| 01:10.54 | BNSC | Wormy: What do you mean? |
| 01:10.57 | BNSC | Hey Tek |
| 01:11.03 | Tybusen | The most fit individual may have the trait of bad luck that gets him killed and unable to pass on his perfect genes, while a most unfit individual gets lucky and passes on his bad genes |
| 01:11.27 | Wormy | How people in the middle ages didn't even bother to experiment with boiling water. |
| 01:11.43 | Tybusen | Evolution may try to favor the best man for the job but it can only work with those who get to the job interview |
| 01:12.11 | Tybusen | Wormy: Not to mention that people tended to kill progressively-minded people back then |
| 01:12.30 | Wormy | These are called anti-rational memes. |
| 01:13.13 | Wormy | I think the progressive memes now greatly outcompete the regressive ones. |
| 01:13.32 | Wormy | This is the doawn of a new age in the universe! |
| 01:14.15 | TekDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:14.58 | Wormy | Progress or regress? |
| 01:15.58 | Wormy | We definately live in a different world now though, that is undeniable as we now have the tools to fight regressive memes. |
| 01:16.48 | Tybusen | The Internet has probably been one of the singlemost important contributors to the spread of progressive memes |
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| 01:19.12 | Tybusen | If reproduction is the means by which biological evolution occurs, communication is the means by which cultural evolution occurs, and more efficient communication allows more ideas to quickly enter the idea pool |
| 01:19.42 | Tybusen | A greater gene pool is beneficial to a species, a greater idea pool is beneficial to a society |
| 01:20.10 | Wormy | And reason |
| 01:20.39 | Wormy | Plenty of myths can be derived by the same observations thattheories are tested on |
| 01:21.26 | Wormy | Note that theories are not derived by directly by experiment but are only tested by them. |
| 01:21.26 | BNSC | Sorry, wasn't paying attention, could someone please summarize it for me? |
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| 01:22.11 | Tybusen | BNSC: We're discussing cultural evolution |
| 01:22.23 | Wormy | We were discussing alien life, then carbon chauvanism, then evolution, then cultural evolution and rationality. |
| 01:22.34 | BNSC | Cultural evolution? |
| 01:22.44 | Tybusen | Think of it like regular biological evolution |
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| 01:22.47 | Wormy | Memes and so on. |
| 01:22.51 | Wormy | Hi |
| 01:22.52 | Tybusen | Except now ideas and memes are the genes |
| 01:22.59 | Wormy | Ah here is our expert on Memes |
| 01:23.00 | Tybusen | and communication is the reproduction |
| 01:23.05 | Tybusen | Greetings Oluap |
| 01:23.07 | BNSC | Memes? Could someone please define the old version? |
| 01:23.17 | Tybusen | Meme is a fancy word for idea |
| 01:23.27 | Tybusen | or attitude |
| 01:23.30 | Wormy | A meme is an idea that replicates itself. |
| 01:23.39 | Tybusen | What Wormy said. |
| 01:23.48 | Wormy | Abstract/thought virus |
| 01:24.06 | Wormy | They can be good, or bad, or useless |
| 01:24.22 | Tybusen | Like traits produced by genes. |
| 01:25.02 | BNSC | Basically like Internet memes, they can be good, bad or just useless. |
| 01:25.13 | Wormy | Unfortunately Humanity has been in stagnation without good criteria for building knowledge. |
| 01:25.30 | OluapPlayer | In the internet's case, 90+% of them are useless |
| 01:25.34 | BNSC | We are not very knowledgable. |
| 01:26.08 | Wormy | Internet memes are replicators too I suppose, and compete based on their popularity. |
| 01:26.20 | Tybusen | Internet memes *are* memes in the traditional sense of the word in that they are ideas that self-replicate, though the word "meme" has had its definition twisted by the existence of the Internet |
| 01:27.12 | PabloDePablo | Still trying to get Spore to work, to no avail |
| 01:27.23 | Tybusen | The thing about memes in cultural evolution though is that evolution favors the popular memes, not necessarily the best memes |
| 01:27.23 | PabloDePablo | Hopefully it'll work soon so I can make my creature |
| 01:27.35 | BNSC | Oh hello, you are? |
| 01:28.01 | Wormy | That hits the nail on the head |
| 01:28.03 | PabloDePablo | Yeah |
| 01:28.11 | BNSC | What really sucks is when certain memes destroy other memes. |
| 01:29.10 | Tybusen | A gene's competitiveness derives from its ability to lend natural advantages to an individual. A meme's competitiveness derives from its ability to appeal to a wide number of individuals. |
| 01:29.23 | BNSC | I meant culturally. |
| 01:29.25 | OluapPlayer | bbl |
| 01:29.41 | Wormy | BNSC: While out of the universe of potential knowledge I'm sure Humanity only has the minutest fraction, the growth of knowledge is really quite astounding. |
| 01:29.55 | BNSC | On what scale? |
| 01:30.23 | Wormy | In less than a hundred of the first powered aircraft, we reach the Moon. |
| 01:30.29 | Ridley99 | I once had an idea for an alien space 'mafia'. |
| 01:30.30 | Wormy | *hundred years |
| 01:30.43 | BNSC | I guess. |
| 01:31.15 | BNSC | Then again, we only reached the potential to use technology at its "finest" about 2 centuries ago. |
| 01:31.32 | BNSC | Out of the complete Human timeline, that is a very small fraction. |
| 01:31.43 | Wormy | But that is what is amazing and so different about now. |
| 01:31.48 | Tybusen | In a single century humanity went from being just able to sustain themselves above the ground for about a minute to being able to send 6 humans to a space station in stable orbit of the planet. |
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| 01:32.24 | Wormy | For all of human history, man looked up to the stars and yearned to know what stars are. |
| 01:32.25 | BNSC | Remember how it was also the century where we had almost killed ourselves off? |
| 01:32.44 | Wormy | But we didn't, the progressive memes won. |
| 01:33.02 | BNSC | All these memes were progressive in their own sense. |
| 01:33.13 | BNSC | If the Nazis won, it would be a different progressive world. |
| 01:33.32 | Tybusen | Nazism was a regressive meme |
| 01:33.33 | Wormy | Not necessarily, social darwinism is a fallacy. |
| 01:33.38 | BNSC | If Capitalism had failed, the world would be very progressive in a different sense. |
| 01:33.58 | Wormy | Not necessarily, capitalism promotes competition. |
| 01:34.01 | BNSC | Think about this, these are the most well known memes of Human history. |
| 01:34.08 | HachiDroid | I will be sleeping, send me a PM if you wanna inquire me bout something, I'll answer tomorrow |
| 01:34.20 | BNSC | Hachi: Good night little bunny. |
| 01:34.41 | Wormy | Regressive memes have the effect of stagnating human society. |
| 01:35.03 | Tybusen | If you think about it, a good meme is one in which its own success will allow the propagation of other good memes |
| 01:35.08 | Wormy | ^ |
| 01:35.14 | BNSC | You see, these memes that are well known have earned their place in Human history, however, I don't think it is justified to make sure that the other memes aren't really heard. |
| 01:35.21 | Tybusen | Which is why freedom of speech is a good meme, it greatly allows memes to continue to replicate |
| 01:35.25 | BNSC | Think of culture. |
| 01:35.28 | Wormy | Tybusen: This video is relevant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=folTvNDL08A |
| 01:36.15 | Tybusen | The other memes have been heard, but they have been forced out of society because they were regressive and ultimately could not compete with more powerful progressive memes. |
| 01:36.50 | BNSC | That is a problem. |
| 01:37.06 | BNSC | If we are not to hear of these memes, then we have not learned anything. |
| 01:37.21 | Tybusen | Authoritarian communism, for example, has been heard and considered by much of the world, but ultimately was rejected by much of the world as we can see in modern politics |
| 01:37.42 | BNSC | That is because it earned its place in its time. |
| 01:37.54 | Tybusen | I believe only China, Vietnam, and North Korea are the only remaining authoritarian communist states |
| 01:38.51 | TekDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.54 | Tybusen | We have heard and considered many memes over the course of human history, but the best ones have prevailed and that's the ones that we currently see now |
| 01:39.04 | Wormy | Indeed |
| 01:39.05 | BNSC | Cuba might be one, however, I doubt myself if it is considered that kind of Communism. |
| 01:39.23 | Tybusen | Even then, there are more progressive memes than that that are waiting to enjoy widespread consideration |
| 01:39.31 | Tybusen | Ah, yes, I forgot Cuba and Venezuela |
| 01:39.39 | TekDroid | I believe China is migratinf away from Communism though. |
| 01:39.42 | BNSC | The last five. |
| 01:39.57 | BNSC | Except, I had thought China had become a Capitalist society. |
| 01:40.16 | BNSC | Communism promotes socialism, right? |
| 01:40.22 | Tybusen | China is becoming less communist and more socialist, while I guess one can't count North Korea as having a communist economy when it has no economy at all |
| 01:40.30 | Tybusen | Communism and socialism are separate |
| 01:40.52 | TekDroid | Communism is an extreme form of socialism, isn't it? |
| 01:40.59 | Tybusen | Communism is complete government control of economy, socialism is a large amount of state control but it retains property rights |
| 01:41.04 | Tybusen | TekDroid: correct. |
| 01:41.20 | Tybusen | Scandinavian countries are socialist, not communist |
| 01:41.21 | BNSC | So basically they are cousins. |
| 01:41.52 | Tybusen | Most countries are slightly socialist in a way due to welfare and public education systems, which are inherently socialist in their purposes |
| 01:42.12 | Tybusen | In that the government is controlling the education part of the economy and the welfare part of the economy |
| 01:42.40 | Tybusen | Republicans may decry Obama as a socialist but in actuality America is fairly socialist in its own right |
| 01:42.46 | TekDroid | Technically any government which does anything for its citizens is slightly socialist. |
| 01:42.53 | Wormy | UK is a welfare state |
| 01:43.27 | Tybusen | A fully communist society has no private sector, a fully capitalist society has no public sector. |
| 01:43.31 | Tybusen | I think that's the main difference. |
| 01:43.37 | TekDroid | I'm pretty sure Canada has its fair share of welfare too. |
| 01:43.52 | Tybusen | I think every Western nation has a welfare and public education system |
| 01:44.12 | Tybusen | So in actuality there are no truly capitalist nor communist governments in the world |
| 01:44.20 | Tybusen | There are a bunch of capitalist-socialist governments |
| 01:45.00 | BNSC | Because those ideas never died in such a terrible death. |
| 01:45.17 | TekDroid | At what point you're capitalist or socialist is really relative and vague. |
| 01:45.45 | Tybusen | Socialism never died, the only thing that died (or is still dying) is its relative authoritative communism |
| 01:46.07 | Tybusen | The meme of socialism has survived because it has tenets that appeal to humanity. |
| 01:46.14 | BNSC | Back in the 20s |
| 01:46.36 | BNSC | Lenin and Marx. |
| 01:46.50 | BNSC | Part of the people, wanting more than their current share. |
| 01:47.07 | Tybusen | Socialism in truth really refers to any part of the national economy being controlled by the government. |
| 01:47.11 | Tybusen | So it hasn't died off. |
| 01:47.15 | Tybusen | It's actually thriving. |
| 01:47.24 | BNSC | More than its extreme cousin. |
| 01:47.52 | Tybusen | Lenin didn't make Soviet Russia an authoritarian state, that was Stalin's fault |
| 01:48.05 | BNSC | I never said that. |
| 01:48.16 | BNSC | Of course, most people I know hate Stalin, who can blame them. |
| 01:49.15 | Tybusen | That's because he's symbolic of authoritarian government. And authoritarianism is a greatly unpopular meme in all of human culture. |
| 01:49.29 | Wormy | The extreme end of capitalism feels authoritarian to me. |
| 01:50.12 | BNSC | Actually, I believe it is more of an infamous meme of Human culture. |
| 01:50.17 | Tybusen | If you think about it, extreme capitalism wraps right back around to extreme communism, except now the government has been replaced by coporations |
| 01:50.57 | Tybusen | The difference being capitalism has better publicity. |
| 01:51.14 | Wormy | http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2 |
| 01:51.18 | Wormy | Thats fun |
| 01:51.25 | BNSC | Basically a government no longer a government but ruled by the previleged, except not much of an Arstocracy. |
| 01:52.36 | Tybusen | Extreme capitalism would be like social darwinism pushed to its logical extreme |
| 01:53.25 | BNSC | My head is too wrapped around this topic. |
| 01:53.59 | BNSC | I say we change the topic. |
| 01:54.22 | Wormy | I think it classed me as a Libertarian anarchist lol |
| 01:55.03 | BNSC | Government is basically a war for control over something to gain. |
| 01:56.28 | Tybusen | I think political alignment ultimately ends up something like a circle than a square graph, since the extremes of both social policy and economic policy are all just basically different forms of tyranny |
| 01:56.46 | Tybusen | Total communism and total capitalism are modern aristocracies |
| 01:57.05 | Tybusen | A dictatorship is, well, a dictatorship, and anarchy is rule by the mob |
| 02:01.10 | Wormy | I was a lib dem but I think the UK's Lib dems are useless now and according to this have become snuggling up Authoritarian right http://www.politicalcompass.org/ukparties2010 |
| 02:01.15 | BNSC | That reminds me, what is the plan for the Division of Earth right now? |
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| 02:08.03 | PabloDePablo | So Spore's still not working. |
| 02:08.44 | PabloDePablo | However, I'm still working on my creature ideas |
| 02:09.03 | BNSC | Cool |
| 02:09.12 | BNSC | What are you using to load Spore? |
| 02:09.57 | PabloDePablo | Just Spore. |
| 02:10.07 | PabloDePablo | I have the game and I'm just going and trying to launch it. |
| 02:10.11 | BNSC | From the disc? |
| 02:10.30 | PabloDePablo | Oh wait, I had the Creepy and Cute disc in |
| 02:10.35 | PabloDePablo | BRB |
| 02:12.55 | PabloDePablo | Back |
| 02:13.03 | PabloDePablo | Oh well, I'll find the disc soon :P |
| 02:13.24 | Wormy | bye |
| 02:26.31 | PabloDePablo | Hey, Tybusen, I worked on my race a bit more in terms of ideas |
| 02:27.32 | PabloDePablo | I'm thinking their archetype in Spore terms would be Knight, and I think there's a way to tie that in with their history |
| 02:28.52 | PabloDePablo | The wiki suggests using Carnivore, Predator, Friendly, and Economic as the path for a Knight archetype, and the time they receive the precursor tech lines up with right before they become Friendly/Economic in their evolutionary path |
| 02:29.34 | PabloDePablo | And something like receiving advanced tech from space would be a trigger for change in behavior- perhaps primitive belief in a deity wanting them to go on a less violent path? |
| 02:30.25 | Tybusen | That would work |
| 02:31.11 | Tybusen | I tend to try not to restrict my species' ideologies to those given in Spore but it seems like you've expanded beyond what Spore has given you so that's good. |
| 02:31.40 | Tybusen | A warrior-like species that gains enlightenment early on in their tribal era. |
| 02:31.51 | PabloDePablo | Yeah. |
| 02:31.54 | Tybusen | And subsequently becomes a friendly, peaceful race. |
| 02:32.10 | Tybusen | Sounds good. |
| 02:32.32 | PabloDePablo | I feel like I'm not restricting them entirely to an in-game ideology, but rather assigning something akin to their race |
| 02:32.35 | PabloDePablo | And how they act |
| 02:32.41 | Tybusen | That's good |
| 02:32.52 | Tybusen | Use the in-game ideology as basis and then expand on it |
| 02:32.59 | PabloDePablo | Thanks. |
| 02:33.10 | TekDroid | Spore ideologies are really useful starting points. |
| 02:33.44 | PabloDePablo | I've decided they'll probably end up being reptilian |
| 02:33.53 | Tybusen | The Spore ideology can provide a base for you to think of ideas from, and from that point you might stay fairly true to the game's interpretation or you might end up with something different |
| 02:34.24 | Tybusen | I had a Knight race who I originally gave the ideology of dishonorable knights, then I evolved them into warrior-scientists. |
| 02:34.53 | PabloDePablo | Yeah, that's what I was thinking too- use the ideology as a basis, and then interpret it and give my own touch to it and make it make sense |
| 02:35.06 | PabloDePablo | And not really be a restriction, but more like something that accurately describes their race |
| 02:36.18 | Tybusen | Your species' ideology will continue to evolve as you develop it and spend time on the Wiki interacting with others, as interaction with other races can also tend to reveal their tendencies. |
| 02:36.33 | PabloDePablo | Glad to know. |
| 02:36.51 | Tybusen | So don't worry too much about perfecting it right now, just have a solid base that's developed enough to be different from the game's presentation, and go from there. |
| 02:37.04 | PabloDePablo | I also decided that since they only have one of the precursor engines, they would use it to power something big |
| 02:37.29 | PabloDePablo | Their homeworld's cities |
| 02:37.49 | Tybusen | The peaceful faction of this species I assume must have been the one who united the planet under one flag, for some reason |
| 02:37.58 | PabloDePablo | I imagine they'd have the engine hooked up so they could power the homeworld on that engine with several smaller engines as backup and support |
| 02:38.05 | TekDroid | While you should avoid overuse, favorite science fiction is also great starting points. |
| 02:38.36 | PabloDePablo | Yeah, the peaceful/economic guys won out in the end |
| 02:38.54 | Tybusen | To create smaller versions of the superengine would mean both understanding the structure of the engine and the makeup of its fuel |
| 02:39.44 | PabloDePablo | Well, I didn't mean smaller versions of the superengine |
| 02:39.51 | Tybusen | From a Precursor's point of view, allowing them to have knowledge of that so early in their space evolution is a risky gamble |
| 02:39.57 | Tybusen | Oh, so more like batteries? |
| 02:40.07 | Tybusen | Or traditional engines? |
| 02:40.41 | PabloDePablo | More like batteries. |
| 02:41.07 | Tybusen | As in, plug it in to the engine and fill it up with energy that can be transported elsewhere? |
| 02:41.39 | PabloDePablo | Well, I see it like this |
| 02:42.26 | PabloDePablo | They have a power grid of sorts, and the superengine is at the center, and the batteries are on the grid as support and are filled by the superengine on a schedule so if the superengine is damaged somehow, the cities still maintain some power. |
| 02:43.09 | PabloDePablo | They also have batteries not on the grid they fill up to transport to colonies. |
| 02:43.19 | Tybusen | Ah, so they're like the flashlights for when the power goes out. |
| 02:43.25 | PabloDePablo | Yeah. |
| 02:44.11 | PabloDePablo | Pretty much all of the city/cities' power comes from the superengine, and thus they have backup power stored in-case of the superengine being damaged. |
| 02:44.14 | Tybusen | I imagine then the hypermatter in the engine would also have to be self-replicating in order to power the engine over the probably centuries it has been running. |
| 02:44.49 | PabloDePablo | Yeah. |
| 02:45.26 | Tybusen | So, an empire whose every inhabitant ultimately relies on a super-generator in the center of a city on their homeplanet |
| 02:45.33 | Tybusen | That's a very interesting concept. I like it |
| 02:45.44 | PabloDePablo | Well, I imagine it lasts a long time on its own, but they've worked out a way to either conserve its energy or perhaps put matter into the engine that can be used as energy just like the hypermatter. |
| 02:45.57 | PabloDePablo | Thanks. |
| 02:46.27 | Tybusen | Perhaps any kind of fuel matter fed into the machine is consumed by the hypermatter and becomes part of the hypermatter itself. |
| 02:46.30 | PabloDePablo | As for their government, I'm thinking a council perhaps. |
| 02:46.41 | Tybusen | A council or republic makes sense. |
| 02:46.45 | PabloDePablo | Yeah, that'd work well for how they keep the hypermatter running. |
| 02:47.14 | Tybusen | Well, now I just had an interesting thought |
| 02:47.39 | Tybusen | If they received this technology in the tribal era, this would make this one faction of the species insanely powerful compared to other tribes. |
| 02:48.33 | Tybusen | I'm thinking that their main method of uniting the world was convincing the "unenlightened others of the world" to join them because they were now so powerful. |
| 02:49.01 | PabloDePablo | That's a good idea- thanks for suggesting it |
| 02:49.16 | Tybusen | And for the less cooperative... well, a peaceful empire doesn't have to always shy away from a demonstration. |
| 02:50.04 | PabloDePablo | Exactly- convincing the less powerful tribes to join them, and those who aren't as cooperative, the engine does have quite a bit of power. |
| 02:50.29 | PabloDePablo | As for how they entered the space age, I think of it like this- |
| 02:50.48 | Tybusen | I think the Precursor race should have also given them the blueprints for constructs with which they could use the engine's great power, as I don't think the tribes would have much use for an engine when they barely have invented the wheel. |
| 02:51.10 | Tybusen | But, go on. |
| 02:51.14 | PabloDePablo | They had quite a long time of peace, but with quite a bit of quelling rebellion underneath. |
| 02:52.04 | PabloDePablo | Eventually, new nations rose, with the superengine being moved around quite a bit (the power grid using it wasn't invented until after one faction had risen up and 'won') |
| 02:52.14 | Tybusen | I imagine these rebels are of the "we will make God bleed" types (as in, show the world the invincible or almighty power is not so mighty) |
| 02:52.33 | PabloDePablo | No one really had control over it, as each nation made attempts to grab it, some of the more violent ones resorting to assassination attempts. |
| 02:53.16 | PabloDePablo | The one who would eventually win wasn't very aggressive in their hold over the superengine, just letting it drift into their control when the others were too busy fighting. |
| 02:53.57 | PabloDePablo | Then, by the time that everyone realized that they had a hold on the superengine, all eyes were on them. And by eyes, I mean missiles. |
| 02:54.29 | Tybusen | Perhaps they destroyed themselves with the superconstructs the Precursors outlined, and the survivors and victors of the final onslaught swore not to use those constructs, but use the generator's energy for peaceful purposes? |
| 02:54.44 | Tybusen | The missiles being among those superconstructs |
| 02:55.03 | PabloDePablo | Hm, perhaps. |
| 02:55.38 | Tybusen | One way to make a species with great power potential so peaceful is to show to them how really bad it can get when they abuse the power |
| 02:55.50 | Tybusen | Like humans and WWII |
| 02:55.56 | Tybusen | anyways, I have to go for now |
| 02:56.01 | PabloDePablo | Anyways, the faction with the engine contacted their warring neighbors, promising a large amount of currency and a connection to their planned power grid. |
| 02:56.09 | PabloDePablo | Some agreed, some just continued attacking. |
| 02:56.57 | PabloDePablo | However, with several nations being swayed into diplomacy, treaties were forged, until by connections, treaties, diplomacy, trade, and other means, every nation was under one flag. |
| 02:57.53 | PabloDePablo | It was just sort of accepted, since if everyone was under one flag, the superengine wasn't being fought over, but shared. With its huge supply of energy, no one was really on the losing end of this peace. |
| 02:58.17 | PabloDePablo | But that's just my idea. |
| 03:10.35 | TekDroid | My fiction's history contains basically WWII in space, which ends up so bad they pretty much vow to never war again. |
| 03:23.18 | TekDroid | Also, one important tip is to remember scale: space is gigantic, and empires also don't grow exponentially overnight. |
| 03:23.33 | TekDroid | Nor do they make daily scientific breakthroughs. |
| 03:37.51 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 04:25.35 | Tybusen | casually invents nuclear fusion |
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| 06:56.36 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
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| 08:14.18 | Jepardi | Hi |
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| 10:11.32 | Jepardi | Made a new symbol for the Zio'Aeni http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a4/Zio%27Aeni_Republic.png |
| 10:14.39 | Liquid_Ink | Spunky |
| 10:38.16 | ImpyDroid | Militant |
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| 11:28.22 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 11:28.54 | OluapWorker | hi |
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| 12:37.20 | Wormy | hi |
| 12:39.18 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
| 12:40.55 | AdmiralPanda | I should probably do some work on some of my fic, don't know what to do though |
| 12:42.02 | Liquid_Ink | eats WOrmulon |
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| 12:59.40 | LawfulInsane | Hello. |
| 13:21.02 | ImpyDroid | OluapWorker: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vargas_Era you are now officially a Lympharian |
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| 13:23.08 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 13:23.12 | OluapWorker | ~punch Cyrannian |
| 13:23.12 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose |
| 13:23.22 | Cyrannian | ~destroy OluapWorker |
| 13:23.22 | infobot | no |
| 13:23.38 | ImpyDroid | Goddammit |
| 13:23.53 | ImpyDroid | Infobot has turned against her masters |
| 13:24.11 | Cyrannian | ~kill OluapWorker |
| 13:24.12 | infobot | ACTION shoots a inverse pseudomeson gun at OluapWorker |
| 13:24.23 | OluapWorker | Less killing more Fog War |
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| 13:24.30 | LawfulInsane | Hello. |
| 13:24.36 | Cyrannian | Hello! |
| 13:25.20 | LawfulInsane | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Askelian_Collective If you haven't seen this already, STUFF |
| 13:27.13 | Cyrannian | Nice work! Feel free to add your stuff to the Cyrannus pages |
| 13:27.45 | LawfulInsane | I'm not on my PC, so i can't really add pictures and such for the time being. |
| 13:28.00 | LawfulInsane | all my Spore stuff is on my PC. |
| 13:28.08 | Cyrannian | That's alright, take your time |
| 13:28.57 | LawfulInsane | My parents don't like me being on IRC, to be honest. So i'm using the excuse of listening to music. |
| 13:29.21 | LawfulInsane | But I've been in this community for quite some time, hard to turn back. |
| 13:30.31 | LawfulInsane | Do you think this should be a regional power or somethng? |
| 13:31.04 | LawfulInsane | Just guessing. |
| 13:32.09 | Cyrannian | Regional I suppose |
| 13:32.16 | LawfulInsane | I see. |
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| 13:36.08 | OfficerJackal | Hello! |
| 13:36.56 | LawfulInsane | Hi |
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| 13:39.04 | LawfulInsane_ | Computer went to sleep and connection closed. |
| 13:40.55 | LawfulInsane_ | but anyway http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy/Database#Regional_Powers |
| 13:42.01 | LawfulInsane | How's it so far |
| 13:43.59 | LawfulInsane | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy#Civilisations Added it here as well |
| 13:44.22 | ImpyDroid | Tried to draw a Rovegar |
| 13:44.34 | ImpyDroid | my god she's so dam creepy |
| 13:44.48 | LawfulInsane | hur |
| 13:45.18 | OluapWorker | show dis |
| 13:45.24 | LawfulInsane | yeah' |
| 13:45.37 | ImpyDroid | I am only starting |
| 13:55.39 | LawfulInsane | How's it |
| 14:04.03 | LawfulInsane | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy/Species#Odysseia |
| 14:04.20 | LawfulInsane | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Canebant Someone help classify this |
| 14:04.26 | LawfulInsane | Please |
| 14:06.33 | LawfulInsane | Seriously anyone willing to help? |
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| 15:16.54 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
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| 15:59.25 | OluapWorker | dumba |
| 15:59.35 | Technobliterator | ya dad |
| 16:12.43 | OluapWorker | I can access YouTube from work and not from home |
| 16:12.46 | OluapWorker | Fucking |
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| 16:33.56 | Wormy | What is actually happening, black screen? Won't the video load? Or is the broswer simply not loading the site itself? |
| 16:34.58 | OluapWorker | spu |
| 16:35.06 | OluapWorker | The videos never load |
| 16:35.33 | Xho | u |
| 16:35.35 | OluapWorker | They get stuck in a black screen for like 10 seconds and then I get a "video not available, try again later" error |
| 16:35.51 | OluapWorker | Except this is been happening for 4 days now |
| 16:35.57 | OluapWorker | I've waited until later enough |
| 16:36.43 | Xho | Have you had a look at your account standings |
| 16:38.12 | OluapWorker | Where do you see dis |
| 16:38.19 | Wormy | Okay I've been watching a video of how to the fix the problem (which sounds silly since people with the problem can't watch it), and the maker of the video used a Html 5 extension in google chrome to fix it |
| 16:38.42 | Xho | Click your account in the top right corner and then go to settings |
| 16:38.42 | OluapWorker | I tried that on Firefox and it didn't work |
| 16:40.09 | OluapWorker | I see nothing unusual here |
| 16:40.51 | OluapWorker | Everything says "Good standing" |
| 16:42.48 | Wormy | Oluap: I can invite you to Xchat, videos normnally blocked in my region can be watched through its youtube extension thing. Maybe it will help? |
| 16:43.14 | Wormy | http://xat.com/Epic_Music_1o1 |
| 16:44.47 | OluapWorker | Interesting |
| 16:45.01 | OluapWorker | I'll try using Chrome when I'm home. If it doesn't work then I'll try Xchat |
| 16:45.16 | Wormy | Good idea |
| 16:46.55 | Technobliterator | I won't be all fangirl and go "hurr durr Chrome solves all your problems" but I'll say that there's a chance switching to Chrome may help, if the problem is exclusive to Firefox |
| 16:46.58 | OluapWorker | Technobliterator: New JonTron confirmed for tomorrow |
| 16:47.07 | Technobliterator | inb4 doesn't upload tomorrow |
| 16:47.45 | OluapWorker | http://i.imgur.com/NDZHaTF.png |
| 16:47.57 | OluapWorker | And http://gyazo.com/2567831a65e972033f301ef042507829.png |
| 16:49.02 | Technobliterator | well |
| 16:49.08 | OluapWorker | Damnit where's Hachi when you want to give him good news |
| 16:49.09 | Technobliterator | I'm hoping it does actually upload tomorrow |
| 16:49.21 | Technobliterator | also, did I ask you what you thought of the Steam OS? |
| 16:49.28 | Technobliterator | all I remember saying was that I predicted it and it came |
| 16:49.39 | OluapWorker | I don't really have an opinion on it |
| 16:50.22 | OluapWorker | Valve calls it a living room PC. I don't want a living room PC hur |
| 16:50.52 | Technobliterator | well, yeah |
| 16:51.03 | Technobliterator | but I'm expecting/hoping for a desktop steam OS |
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| 16:59.30 | Hachi_ | Hai |
| 17:00.00 | Technobliterator | sup |
| 17:00.02 | Technobliterator | good news |
| 17:00.03 | OluapWorker | Hachi |
| 17:00.07 | Technobliterator | jontron video tomorrow |
| 17:00.07 | OluapWorker | http://i.imgur.com/NDZHaTF.png |
| 17:00.11 | Technobliterator | yeah, that ^ |
| 17:00.12 | OluapWorker | http://gyazo.com/2567831a65e972033f301ef042507829.png |
| 17:00.29 | OluapWorker | JINTRIN |
| 17:00.57 | Hachi_ | I saw that as the first thing on FB when I logged on this mornin |
| 17:01.26 | Hachi_ | tis has me excited |
| 17:01.57 | OluapWorker | tis makes me angry because if I can't fix my YouTube today, I won't be able of watching it |
| 17:04.16 | OluapWorker | http://i.imgur.com/o553CZF.jpg From Kol Daren to Hachi |
| 17:05.11 | Hachi_ | olol |
| 17:07.18 | OluapWorker | Hachi_ Xho Technobliterator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34B_dIWjMZs give your grandma a kiss |
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| 17:08.26 | Imperios | Hi |
| 17:08.48 | OluapWorker | hi |
| 17:09.08 | Imperios | http://asdruabel.deviantart.com/journal/I-answer-402554266 |
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| 17:11.37 | dino__ | hellowz |
| 17:11.39 | dino__ | how is all dong |
| 17:11.40 | dino__ | z |
| 17:12.23 | OluapWorker | hi |
| 17:13.15 | dino__ | Oluap! |
| 17:14.23 | Technobliterator | bbl |
| 17:17.09 | Xho | OluapWorker: dun scared nao |
| 17:17.23 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 17:25.27 | Wormy | Lol my edits are so messy I usually end up doing it 5 times or more |
| 17:27.07 | Imperios | Hm |
| 17:27.09 | Imperios | Is Hachi here |
| 17:27.49 | dino__ | bye\ |
| 17:30.23 | Hachi_ | Yes |
| 17:34.48 | Imperios | I wanted to ask you if you wanted to collaborate on a small Divinarium subfaction |
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| 17:35.01 | Imperios | But then again, giving you a monastic order composed entirely of females... hmmm... |
| 17:36.23 | Wormy | TheGUARDIANOFFOR's comment = entertainmenthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFAOXdXZ5TM |
| 17:36.34 | Wormy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFAOXdXZ5TM |
| 17:36.47 | Hachi_ | Imperios: dunt worry, I'll behave |
| 17:36.54 | Hachi_ | But yeah, collaberation would be sweet |
| 17:37.13 | Imperios | At the other hand |
| 17:37.54 | Imperios | You created Alkhuse and you came up with the idea of a female order ruling it, so yeah it's a good idea |
| 17:39.19 | Hachi_ | yey |
| 17:39.24 | OluapWorker | "I'll behave" |
| 17:39.27 | OluapWorker | spoiler: no he won't |
| 17:39.41 | Hachi_ | y u ruin da sooprize |
| 17:40.32 | OluapWorker | cus u |
| 17:40.36 | OluapWorker | go finish paegs grrr |
| 17:40.53 | Hachi_ | werkin on zarkhator |
| 17:42.13 | OluapWorker | werk on kez paeg |
| 17:42.19 | Hachi_ | ECH |
| 18:01.06 | PabloDePablo | So I'm working on my creature idea some more, especially their introduction to the rest of the Fictionverse from their point of view |
| 18:03.28 | Xho | I need to do a cover of Bleed some time |
| 18:07.30 | OluapWorker | You need to go make stoof in Spore |
| 18:21.19 | Imperios | Speaking of which |
| 18:21.20 | Imperios | http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/a/af/Sister_of_Alkhuse.png |
| 18:22.19 | Hachi_ | i dunt c no tits on dis bitch |
| 18:22.21 | OluapWorker | The little mask on their faces kinda look like a pig's nose |
| 18:22.23 | OluapWorker | oink radeon |
| 18:22.31 | Imperios | Pigdeon |
| 18:22.43 | OluapWorker | Sister of Bacon |
| 18:22.52 | Hachi_ | rite, I made a concept for a Zarkhator vessel |
| 18:25.17 | OluapWorker | gonna add something to the Rovegar page |
| 18:33.35 | *** join/#sporewiki Technobliterator (5687e54c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.135.229.76) |
| 18:33.51 | Technobliterator | yo |
| 18:34.17 | OluapWorker | return of the dumba |
| 18:34.22 | Technobliterator | ya dad |
| 18:34.31 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Rovegar#Behaviour Ardat-Yakshi, SporeWiki edition |
| 18:34.34 | OluapWorker | I regret nothing |
| 18:35.50 | Xho | Time for Tuesday Ded |
| 18:36.11 | OluapWorker | ur supposed tp be ded on thursday |
| 18:36.13 | OluapWorker | u hooligan |
| 18:36.16 | OluapWorker | to* |
| 18:36.54 | Hachi_ | http://i.imgur.com/c3TsSSI.png How does this look for a Zarkhator fighter craft? |
| 18:36.59 | Hachi_ | And yes, those are tentacles |
| 18:37.36 | OluapWorker | Ascended-class - fite me fgt |
| 18:37.46 | OluapWorker | Looks good |
| 18:38.15 | Hachi_ | Nowhere near as big as an Ascended-class although it is quite dangerous for a fighter vessel |
| 18:38.23 | Hachi_ | Think diddy-Reaper |
| 18:38.41 | Imperios | OluapWorker: I downloaded IHNMAIMS |
| 18:38.46 | Imperios | Played as the Nazi guy, got killed |
| 18:38.47 | Imperios | I dungeddit |
| 18:39.20 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 18:39.49 | OluapWorker | Hachi_: Zarkhator - prepare ur diddly hole |
| 18:39.55 | Hachi_ | olol |
| 18:40.08 | OluapWorker | I never played IHNMAIMS |
| 18:40.12 | OluapWorker | I only listed to the soundtrack |
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| 18:48.52 | Wormy | http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-21/atom-bomb-almost-exploded-in-north-carolina-in-1961/4972998 |
| 18:49.00 | Wormy | hi |
| 18:49.01 | Wormy | damn |
| 18:49.22 | Monet | Hi |
| 18:52.16 | OluapWorker | hello |
| 18:53.41 | Monet | So in 1961 the US was inches away from collapse. Damn... |
| 18:54.27 | Imperios | Hi Mon |
| 18:55.59 | Wormy | I wonder if the civil unrest might have given the Soviets encouragement to attack the US |
| 18:56.46 | Monet | Good thing NORAD is in Colorado |
| 18:58.49 | Wormy | *sigh* more pressure for control of the internet http://forteanzoology.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/infographic-uk-filter-to-block-esoteric.html |
| 19:00.42 | Monet | "block peoples' access to alternative spiritual information" |
| 19:05.39 | Hachi_ | Umm |
| 19:05.40 | Hachi_ | This block's original purpose is also dum |
| 19:06.09 | Hachi_ | "Block pornography to protect children" |
| 19:06.10 | Hachi_ | It's the child's fault if they find it, not the internet's |
| 19:06.46 | Monet | Bloody toriews |
| 19:06.50 | Monet | Tories* |
| 19:07.46 | Wormy | I never considered that magnnetic fields can be explained by Special Relativity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0 |
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| 19:09.23 | Cyrannian | Hi! |
| 19:10.37 | OluapWorker | ~throw Cyrannian |
| 19:10.37 | infobot | ACTION winds up and throws Cyrannian over the moon. |
| 19:10.38 | Monet | Hello there. |
| 19:10.45 | Monet | There's a lot of interesting buildings in Canterbury, one of my favourites is this http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3128/3116240459_4593a71ab4_z.jpg?zz=1 |
| 19:11.51 | Wormy | You might have seen or heard of Chesterfield's spire http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/18182503.jpg |
| 19:12.10 | Monet | I think I once passed it |
| 19:15.06 | Hachi_ | https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1185783_330052023804911_491767523_n.jpg |
| 19:15.32 | Wormy | lol |
| 19:16.51 | OluapWorker | Transapient Dracogonarious right there |
| 19:17.29 | Monet | Lol. Captain Hook is fucked. |
| 19:46.54 | Cyrannian | One of my next big projects is an overhaul of the Apocalypt |
| 19:47.50 | Wormy | *apocalypse |
| 19:48.34 | Monet | Oh cool. |
| 19:48.51 | Monet | Any particular changes you can reveal? |
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| 19:49.58 | Ridley99 | Hello! |
| 19:50.03 | Cyrannian | Hm, I'll be expanding the "acolytes" into several subsections, like warriors and assassins |
| 19:50.05 | Cyrannian | Hello! |
| 19:50.22 | Ridley99 | Hello Cyrannian! |
| 19:50.53 | Cyrannian | How are you? |
| 19:51.12 | Ridley99 | Fine. I got back from school. |
| 19:51.42 | Ridley99 | Can I tell you my concept race? |
| 19:51.51 | Cyrannian | Sure, please go ahead. |
| 19:54.25 | Ridley99 | The Drok. (Monet approved) They were created by the seeding program created by the Draconis. They developed into a deeply religious and warlike culture. After a 400 civil war, they totaled their home world. After escaping destruction, they discover other races. |
| 19:54.59 | Ridley99 | http://i.imgur.com/koeektM.png |
| 19:55.12 | Cyrannian | That's a very interesting concept |
| 19:56.02 | PabloDePablo | That creature looks cool, Ridley |
| 19:56.15 | Ridley99 | Thank you Pablo |
| 19:56.24 | Ridley99 | And thank you Cyrannian! |
| 19:56.37 | PabloDePablo | I like the concept |
| 19:56.46 | PabloDePablo | Want to hear my concept race, Cyrannian? |
| 19:57.01 | Cyrannian | Of course, go ahead! :) |
| 19:57.55 | PabloDePablo | I don't have a definitive name yet, but they were a fairly war-like race until an unknown advanced empire hid a super-engine that had fuel that could work with most forms of power on their world |
| 19:58.05 | Wormy | 2010 Cyrannian has returnedth |
| 19:58.15 | PabloDePablo | Afterwards, they changed to a more peaceful, diplomatic race, and eventually entered the space age |
| 19:58.39 | PabloDePablo | When I introduce them, they're gonna be fairly early on in space travel, although with their precursor tech they are on the borderline of tier 4 and tier 5 |
| 19:58.52 | PabloDePablo | They'll be somewhat gullible and perhaps a target due to the super-engine |
| 19:58.59 | Ridley99 | Drok are tier 6. |
| 19:59.12 | Cyrannian | Another original and intriguing concept! It's a refreshing change |
| 19:59.17 | Wormy | ^ |
| 19:59.26 | Ridley99 | ^ |
| 19:59.33 | Wormy | What galaxy do you plan to put your fictions in Ridley and Pablo? |
| 19:59.43 | Ridley99 | Milky Way. |
| 19:59.51 | Wormy | Good choice |
| 20:00.32 | PabloDePablo | Not decided yet |
| 20:00.43 | PabloDePablo | Thanks for the warm reception. |
| 20:01.01 | Ridley99 | They might have had a jump in Tech when an unknown ship crashed into the planet. |
| 20:01.32 | Ridley99 | That gave them space travel. |
| 20:01.48 | PabloDePablo | I also decided on a form of government for my race |
| 20:02.31 | PabloDePablo | A council- several representatives from their worlds, chosen from the most influential and the most inventive minds. |
| 20:02.58 | PabloDePablo | They have a heavy focus on technology due to their early use of it with the superengine. |
| 20:03.23 | Cyrannian | Interesting |
| 20:03.33 | Ridley99 | the Drok have a clan based system, with each son and daughter being in on the politics. The grand leader is there current religous leader. |
| 20:03.54 | Ridley99 | Each clan has one 'shaman' for lack of a better word. |
| 20:05.00 | PabloDePablo | Seems interesting! |
| 20:05.21 | Ridley99 | Though the one with the gun isn't ignored. |
| 20:06.04 | PabloDePablo | My race believes in mostly one religion, but instead of a conventional myth, they see their deity not as magical, but as legendary for his inventions |
| 20:06.48 | PabloDePablo | Sort of like Hephaestus from Greek myths- a legendary blacksmith/inventor |
| 20:07.03 | PabloDePablo | They believe that he is the one who made the superengine as his gift to them |
| 20:07.50 | Ridley99 | Is spice stilled used as trade? |
| 20:08.40 | PabloDePablo | To some degree |
| 20:08.52 | Monet | Some empires use it but trade is a great deal more diverse. |
| 20:09.16 | PabloDePablo | They use a currency designed so that it's easy to convert to and from other races' currency. |
| 20:09.37 | PabloDePablo | They switched to it fairly recently, before then they used spice and the like. |
| 20:09.51 | PabloDePablo | However, spice still has quite its worth. |
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| 20:10.17 | OfficerJackal | Hello! |
| 20:10.32 | PabloDePablo | Hey there. |
| 20:10.38 | Ridley99 | Howdy |
| 20:11.24 | OfficerJackal | Ruby Tuesdays killed Xho. D: |
| 20:11.32 | Monet | PabloDePablo: I can offer some exonomics knowlege about conversion ease |
| 20:11.46 | PabloDePablo | That'd be useful. |
| 20:12.14 | PabloDePablo | Also, if possible, I'd like to locate my race in the Phradox Galaxy. |
| 20:12.24 | Hachi_ | There is no Phradox Galaxy |
| 20:12.28 | Monet | Money that is difficult to convert is usually money that comes from struggling nations. |
| 20:12.57 | Monet | Hachi_: Phradox is Bio's regardless of what Mush wanted to do IMO |
| 20:13.14 | Hachi_ | It's destroyed, isn't it? |
| 20:13.42 | Monet | Mush wanted to destroy it for...no idea what reason other than showing off how powerful the Obvia'arseholes were. |
| 20:13.50 | PabloDePablo | The page doesn't have any past sense in terms of its existence, so unless it's an outdated page, then it's still around I presume |
| 20:13.57 | Monet | SOmething about former territory |
| 20:14.01 | Hachi_ | No I meant wasn't it destroyed in the cleanslate? |
| 20:14.09 | Monet | No it wasn't. |
| 20:14.42 | Monet | A few months ago I think Bio opened it up to colonisation |
| 20:14.49 | OluapWorker | afaik Phradox is still around |
| 20:15.04 | Hachi_ | But I thought only Cyrannus, Plazith Rim, Andromeda, Mirus and Borealis survived |
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| 20:15.43 | OluapWorker | Again afaik Phradox is still around |
| 20:15.48 | PabloDePablo | I would like to have my nation be native to one of the galaxies, Phradox if possible but maybe Borealis. |
| 20:15.52 | PabloDePablo | BRB |
| 20:15.57 | OluapWorker | Borealis is not open for new users |
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| 20:16.30 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
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| 20:19.12 | Hachi_ | u dun hav 2 go fer another hour |
| 20:19.55 | OluapWorker | shup ur face go finish paegs |
| 20:20.40 | Hachi_ | i cant do da impossibru |
| 20:21.01 | Ridley99 | Were there ever skirimishs near the Milky Way? |
| 20:25.45 | DrodoEmpire | There's been full-on wars of varying scale in every galaxy |
| 20:26.15 | DrodoEmpire | For example, the Katar Sector of the milky way has been in war after war for quite a bit now. |
| 20:26.33 | DrodoEmpire | Its finally supposed to have an era of peace soon. XD |
| 20:27.37 | Ridley99 | A ship crashed on Drok homeworld during the civ stage. They studied it, and decided to make their own. |
| 20:28.55 | OluapWorker | Return of the spu |
| 20:29.09 | Ridley99 | Spu? |
| 20:29.24 | OluapWorker | I'm not talking to you |
| 20:29.34 | Ridley99 | Worry. |
| 20:29.37 | Ridley99 | *Sorry |
| 20:31.37 | OluapWorker | Hachi_: "Rev your Echgines", "A Good Day to Ech Hard.", "The good, the bad, the ECHHH", "Tripple ECHs", "These puns are getting a little too ECHstreme", "These puns are unechceptable, one more and I'm likely to echsplode", "ECHnough" |
| 20:32.25 | Hachi_ | I guess people are getting a little too ECHcited for the new Jontron ECHiposde |
| 20:32.30 | Hachi_ | ECHisode* |
| 20:32.38 | OluapWorker | Yech |
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| 20:34.26 | OluapWorker | http://i.imgur.com/RLRMr6g.jpg pandamonium |
| 20:35.00 | Xho | pondo |
| 20:35.15 | OluapWorker | u a pondo |
| 20:37.26 | Xho | Pondo is Japanese for Pound |
| 20:37.28 | Xho | i.e. £ |
| 20:37.34 | OluapWorker | u a £ |
| 20:37.45 | Xho | is a £ |
| 20:38.29 | Monet | spends Xho to buy a Twix |
| 20:38.40 | Xho | IS THAT ALL I AM WORTH TO YOU |
| 20:38.41 | Xho | A TWIX |
| 20:38.54 | Xho | Well I am only a pound so yeah I guess I am |
| 20:38.59 | OluapWorker | ur value is 3,51 reais |
| 20:40.58 | OluapWorker | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/562/454/e3d.jpg |
| 20:41.32 | Monet | "What we need to question is bricks, concrete, glass, our table manners, our utensils, the way we spend our time, our rhythms. To question that, which seems to have ceased forever to astonish us...How? Where? When? Why?" The quote on the brief of my first uni project. |
| 20:42.06 | OluapWorker | Santorakh's answer to all four questions: "Cheese." |
| 20:42.14 | Xho | I was just about to say that hur |
| 20:42.35 | OluapWorker | c |
| 20:44.42 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AIRC/Quotes#Breasts_and_Ainsley I almost forgot about this |
| 20:44.56 | Xho | WHAT |
| 20:45.14 | Xho | Breasts and Ainsley |
| 20:45.20 | Xho | This is already worthy of gods |
| 20:45.25 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 20:45.37 | Monet | If I was on a few seconds later that would never have happened. |
| 20:46.04 | OluapWorker | I don't even remember what the original discussion was about hur |
| 20:47.10 | Xho | That horrifying moment when Kezoreg realises Santorakh is technically his uncle |
| 20:47.15 | Cyrannian | I think we should prune that page, personally I think there are some sections that aren't really funny. |
| 20:47.52 | Cyrannian | Xho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLU_BhHyeUE |
| 20:48.03 | OluapWorker | I think the page looks fine as it is now |
| 20:48.04 | Monet | Pme man's comedy is another man's boredom I say |
| 20:48.11 | Monet | One* |
| 20:48.18 | OluapWorker | Not everyone has the same opinion |
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| 20:50.26 | Wormy | back |
| 20:52.15 | OluapWorker | Hachi_: http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/613/272/a39.jpg Scene ruined/enhanced |
| 20:52.33 | Cyrannian | Obviously not everyone has the same opinion. I'm just saying that we could put sections to a vote. |
| 20:52.42 | Hachi_ | olol |
| 20:52.48 | Cyrannian | Wormy: Hello! |
| 20:53.04 | Xho | Cyrannian: hoh |
| 20:53.28 | Xho | Santorakh prank calls Apollo |
| 20:53.31 | Wormy | hi |
| 20:54.05 | Cyrannian | "Hi, thank you for choosing Apollo my name is New Republic" |
| 20:54.30 | Xho | "CHEESE. FOR EVERYONE." |
| 20:54.30 | OluapWorker | Captain:New Republic |
| 20:54.44 | OluapWorker | Hachi_: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/613/280/2a3.jpg Neigh |
| 20:59.55 | Xho | I wonder whether Santorakh's prank calls end in cheese pouring out of the phone indefinitely |
| 21:01.06 | Xho | Could end world hunger and commit genocide at the same time |
| 21:01.08 | Xho | What are the chances |
| 21:01.11 | OluapWorker | Victim claims they are lactose intolerant -> Santorakh feels personally offended |
| 21:01.52 | Xho | The phone starts leak that black liquid |
| 21:02.04 | Xho | I just realised |
| 21:02.14 | Xho | Santorakh is the Horseman of Famine -> Loves food |
| 21:02.17 | Xho | eh |
| 21:02.30 | OluapWorker | Santorakh - i'm off-duty atm |
| 21:03.24 | OluapWorker | Krath is the Horseman of Conquest yet he never does any conquering |
| 21:04.11 | Xho | Krath - Whoever gave us those job descriptions are complete idiots |
| 21:04.38 | OluapWorker | Angazhar - dunno but u but im doin fine so far hur |
| 21:04.52 | Xho | Santorakh - CHEESE |
| 21:05.28 | Monet | Correction: Angazhar is Horsemen of death -> No one dies in the previous scourge |
| 21:05.39 | OluapWorker | Draguros - http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130110184238/lionking/images/2/27/I%27m_surrounded_by_idiots.gif |
| 21:05.40 | Xho | Angazharpalm |
| 21:05.48 | Xho | hur |
| 21:05.56 | OluapWorker | Draguros is Death, Angazhar is War |
| 21:05.58 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Apocalypta#History - c |
| 21:06.02 | Xho | The actual attributes are Madness, Order, War and Change |
| 21:06.06 | OluapWorker | If anything Angazhar is the most in-character Horseman |
| 21:06.32 | Monet | My mistake then |
| 21:06.37 | OluapWorker | At least Conquest didn't get replaced by Pestilence |
| 21:06.44 | OluapWorker | Imagine Krath as the Horseman of Pestilence |
| 21:06.57 | Xho | Decomposition: Gold Edition |
| 21:07.30 | Monet | OKay.. Angazhar is Horseman of War -> his own men are mroe afraid of him than the enemy is |
| 21:07.46 | Xho | Angazhar - cuz |
| 21:07.52 | OluapWorker | Cyrannian: moar |
| 21:07.55 | Xho | Imagine how Tangent is run |
| 21:07.56 | Xho | Well |
| 21:07.58 | Xho | Tangent isn't run |
| 21:08.04 | Xho | Tangent is even more anarchic than Insomnia |
| 21:08.04 | OluapWorker | Angazhar - YOU BETTER RUN |
| 21:08.25 | Xho | Insomnia is actually rather normal |
| 21:08.34 | OluapWorker | Angazhar goes around chasing Chaos Monsters for fun and when he gets you, he throws you at the Unfathomable |
| 21:08.34 | Xho | Except the denizens who are little off |
| 21:08.42 | OluapWorker | or however the big one is called |
| 21:08.47 | Xho | Unfathomable - :3 |
| 21:09.07 | Xho | They do have mortals within these planes |
| 21:09.26 | Xho | For example Arx actually has two courts which run the two halves of the structure that is the plane of Chaos |
| 21:09.32 | Xho | All run by mortals |
| 21:09.49 | Xho | Inosmnia just has a lot of random settlements that are run by equally random mortals |
| 21:10.01 | Xho | Tangent actually doesn't have anything apart from a lot of corpses |
| 21:10.23 | Xho | Tangent is sort of the No-Man's-Land of the three planes |
| 21:10.24 | OluapWorker | Angazhar - '''ASGORD CORPSES. EVERYWHERE.''' |
| 21:12.04 | Xho | One wonders why mortals actually exist in those planes |
| 21:12.39 | OluapWorker | Xhodocto like seeing them die hur |
| 21:12.45 | Xho | They're not necessarily Dominion-aligned either |
| 21:13.12 | Xho | Actually the Xhodocto don't tend to care what happens to the mortals in their realm |
| 21:13.24 | Xho | Krath is a probable exception |
| 21:13.41 | Xho | Since he runs a realm entirely based of order, he kind of rage-modes at disorder |
| 21:14.01 | Xho | You could say that Krath is the only named Xhodocto who is not inherently malevolent |
| 21:14.22 | OluapWorker | Krath - '''GET OUT.''' Santorakh - i jus wanna- Krath - '''GET THE FUCK OUT.''' |
| 21:14.59 | Xho | hur |
| 21:15.32 | Xho | Since Krath is the only one to actually have order among mortals he might be the only Xhodocto who is concerned with the continuity of mortal existence |
| 21:15.49 | OluapWorker | Krath - '''MORTALS TO GET ME GOLD. NEEDS MORE GOLD.''' |
| 21:16.00 | Xho | hur |
| 21:16.29 | OluapWorker | Since Krath is the real boss of the Corruptus, would there be Corruptus demons in Arx? |
| 21:16.35 | Xho | Probably not no |
| 21:16.43 | OluapWorker | Shu - butbutbut moar lands |
| 21:16.52 | Xho | If they exist to cause pain towards mortals Krath would hate to have them in Arx |
| 21:17.14 | OluapWorker | Corruptus aims for domination, not necessarily pain |
| 21:17.18 | OluapWorker | Anyway time to ded |
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| 21:25.46 | Hachi_ | ech |
| 21:25.58 | Wormy | hi |
| 21:27.24 | Xho | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si0Mq-7FiEg |
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| 21:28.25 | Catface | brushes a feather against Monet's soft lip hair. |
| 21:30.27 | Wormy | hello |
| 21:31.14 | Catface | Hi. |
| 21:34.19 | Catface | Wormy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLT--xFABqw |
| 21:35.39 | Cyrannian | hai and bai kitty |
| 21:46.32 | Wormy | It won't play for some reason. |
| 21:51.08 | Catface | Wormy: Have you watched any more GoT? |
| 21:53.02 | Wormy | Remind me, who are GoT again? |
| 21:53.30 | Catface | Game of Thrones. |
| 21:57.19 | Wormy | Oh, no I haven't |
| 21:58.34 | Wormy | I've only been watching Stargate |
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| 21:59.38 | Ridley99 | Woo~! |
| 21:59.57 | Ridley99 | http://i.imgur.com/xdSjwpj.jpg |
| 22:11.33 | Monet | I've recently been tempted to write short stories that detail everyday life in various places in the DI. |
| 22:14.52 | Hachi_ | Prostitution nao |
| 22:18.22 | Monet | Draconis - Wot dat. |
| 22:18.44 | Ridley99 | Drok: "* |
| 22:18.54 | Ridley99 | Drok: "* shrugs shoulders* |
| 22:20.01 | Monet | Actually, given Draconis randyness is based on males detecting female being at "that time", there might be Draconis males who like submerging themselves in that kind of euphoria |
| 22:22.07 | Monet | So it turs out Draconis being perverts could be an equivilent to drug addiction |
| 22:22.29 | Ridley99 | Damn... |
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| 22:23.33 | Monet | So uHi |
| 22:23.37 | Monet | Hi |
| 22:24.37 | Monet | So ueah, a Draconis sex-maniac *might* exist in some form, but when not exposed to women in heat could risk withdrawl symptoms |
| 22:25.16 | Monet | It's not the drive for sex that would exite them, it's the feeling of energy and drive they get when they smell the sex pheromones. |
| 22:28.50 | Monet | So there might be some sort of "sex pheromone" economy. |
| 22:29.38 | Hachi_ | So they get off on sniffing |
| 22:29.47 | Hachi_ | dats kinky shi rite dere |
| 22:30.15 | Monet | It's lie snuff. Only it's a perfume...thing |
| 22:30.38 | Monet | like* |
| 22:32.24 | Tybusen | Uriel (to Septis) - Son, back in my day we didn't have bottles of pheromone perfumes in every corner drugstore, we got our fix straight from the source! |
| 22:32.26 | Monet | Also unlike crack, satisfying your addiction doesn't involve destroying your nose. |
| 22:33.00 | Ridley99 | It might, but not in the same way, |
| 22:33.14 | Ridley99 | *Is shot* |
| 22:34.12 | Monet | And unlike crack, the stuff is supposed to go up your nose |
| 22:36.02 | Monet | It could explain why Draconis often sleep with non-blood family members. Maybe a good number do it because they like to sniff their pertners in heat? |
| 22:36.37 | Monet | And that sounds very wrong |
| 22:36.44 | Hachi_ | Makes sense though |
| 22:36.50 | Hachi_ | Wanna prevent pheromonal incest |
| 22:37.54 | Monet | Yeah, Draconis tend to lose some of their snobbiness when they get horny. |
| 22:39.32 | Tybusen | I wonder what would happen if someone developed grenades loaded with those pheromones and started using them against the ITN |
| 22:40.03 | Hachi_ | Then you're facing a load of horny dragon men with guns |
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| 22:40.28 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 22:40.33 | Monet | Hi |
| 22:40.45 | Wormy_ | Did someone bleep Wormy? |
| 22:40.59 | Wormy_ | I left my tablet downstairs... |
| 22:41.30 | Monet | Tybusen: Also remember not everyone in the ITN isa Draconis. |
| 22:41.51 | Tybusen | But there are a lot of them |
| 22:41.58 | Monet | True |
| 22:42.59 | Monet | For a species that started out as being a race who didn't like the idea of casual sex they have a surprisingly scary dark side thanks to nature. |
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| 22:43.32 | Monet | Hi |
| 22:43.36 | Tybusen | I think all of our empires have hidden dark sides |
| 22:43.43 | Lord_Raydon | hi |
| 22:44.05 | Monet | I suppose in suppressing the yin i've only made it worse. |
| 22:44.23 | Hachi_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEhApoSekxE&feature=c4-overview&list=UUdJdEguB1F1CiYe7OEi3SBg Well JonTron exists |
| 22:44.37 | Hachi_ | lives* |
| 22:44.40 | Hachi_ | Whoops |
| 22:45.17 | Monet | Draconis are grumpy enough hwn normal, but over the past month, a full-tooth smile = psychotic and now i've hinted some are sex pheromone addicts |
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| 22:45.44 | Monet | Hi |
| 22:45.50 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 22:45.57 | Monet | Also there's the...erm...reproductive epartment |
| 22:46.16 | Tybusen | TIAF - see we're not so different after all |
| 22:46.41 | Monet | Draconis - except we don't always think with that organ |
| 22:46.54 | DrodoEmpire | What are we talking aboot? |
| 22:46.55 | Hachi_ | Hachi - Y NOT |
| 22:47.00 | Monet | should be "those organs" but meh |
| 22:47.04 | Hachi_ | DrodoEmpire: Draconis porn |
| 22:47.08 | DrodoEmpire | Oh. |
| 22:47.10 | Tybusen | TIAF - BUNNEH KNOWS WHERE ITS AT |
| 22:47.11 | DrodoEmpire | Oh my... |
| 22:47.27 | Monet | NSFW territory here |
| 22:47.41 | DrodoEmpire | I see. |
| 22:47.46 | Monet | Also NSFDG = Not Safe for Do-gooders |
| 22:48.42 | Tybusen | TIAF - that didn't stop us |
| 22:49.30 | Monet | Draconis - Didn't you try invading our home teritories? |
| 22:50.13 | Tybusen | TIAF - yeh so? |
| 22:50.41 | Monet | Draconis - And didn't you do it without knowing much about us? |
| 22:50.57 | Tybusen | TIAF - yeh |
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| 22:51.34 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 22:51.40 | Tybusen | Greetings |
| 22:51.47 | Hachi_ | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/094/698/L%20meme.jpg |
| 22:57.33 | Hachi_ | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/279/981/f45.gif Made me laugh way too much |
| 22:59.43 | Ridley99 | http://i.imgur.com/clodF98.jpg |
| 23:02.59 | Wormy_ | I scored 3 http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/how-well-do-you-see-color-173018 |
| 23:10.11 | Tybusen | 11 |
| 23:12.39 | Wormy_ | Of course I think monitor quality is probably a factor. |
| 23:12.58 | Wormy_ | I've got a really good one |
| 23:23.13 | Wormy_ | http://www.dailyfailcenter.com/29188 |
| 23:24.09 | Wormy_ | no idea what this is about but it looks funny http://www.dailyfailcenter.com/95800 |
| 23:24.50 | Monet | Basically Rome II was rather dissapointing |
| 23:26.13 | Monet | Cerative Assembly promised this http://www.gamedynamo.com/images/galleries/photo/2461/total-war-rome-ii-2-pc-screenshots-11.jpg many people got that in the second link |
| 23:26.39 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, i don't like it when companies release a half-finished game. |
| 23:26.53 | DrodoEmpire | I'm certain it'll get better through updates, though. |
| 23:27.09 | Hachi_ | Umm no |
| 23:27.13 | Hachi_ | Release complete games |
| 23:27.17 | Hachi_ | Or don't release them at all |
| 23:27.36 | DrodoEmpire | I said I don't like it when they release half-finished games. |
| 23:27.38 | Hachi_ | If something like that happened during PS2's lifetime |
| 23:27.44 | Hachi_ | People would've lost their shit |
| 23:27.50 | Hachi_ | Games would be recalled |
| 23:28.16 | DrodoEmpire | I'm willing to bear with them until the patch things out. |
| 23:28.30 | Hachi_ | You shouldn't have to |
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| 23:28.35 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o OluapPlayer] by ChanServ |
| 23:28.39 | Hachi_ | hai u |
| 23:28.42 | Hachi_ | http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/612/866/066.gif |
| 23:28.45 | OluapPlayer | Hachi_: JANTRAN |
| 23:28.46 | DrodoEmpire | Well, it happens. |
| 23:28.53 | Hachi_ | OluapPlayer: watched dis |
| 23:29.12 | OluapPlayer | Not only my YouTube is working again, the new JonTron was amazing |
| 23:29.18 | OluapPlayer | I'm so happy hur |
| 23:29.23 | Hachi_ | I'd say it was definitely worth the wait |
| 23:29.41 | OluapPlayer | Aye |
| 23:41.21 | OluapPlayer | Hachi_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H32SIISkc-Y dis |
| 23:43.30 | Wormy_ | What is exactly wrong with grannies baking? |
| 23:43.52 | Hachi_ | Somebody I subscribed to played a Gmod version of Mario Party and got a Gaben trail. One of his friends commented that Gaben looked like a massive baby after playing a baby-eating game |
| 23:43.54 | Wormy_ | cuz food |
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| 23:45.13 | Wormy_ | hello |
| 23:46.10 | DrodoEmpire | Hey! |
| 23:46.35 | *** join/#sporewiki Banelord88_ (63141080@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.20.16.128) |
| 23:47.04 | DrodoEmpire | Hello again |
| 23:47.05 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 23:47.08 | Banelord88_ | Hello |
| 23:48.05 | Banelord88_ | Lol I'm new to this it's a little awkward for me it may be a while until I can talk ordinarily sorry :P |
| 23:48.16 | DrodoEmpire | Its alright |
| 23:49.15 | OluapPlayer | Hachi_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMB8zxEbt_k Tyraz at the end of the Tantum meeting |
| 23:49.17 | Banelord88_ | I just joined the Sporewiki tonight :D I'm excited to start working with you guys as I've loved reading your fiction for some time |
| 23:49.32 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, thanks. |
| 23:49.36 | OluapPlayer | Welcome |
| 23:50.15 | DrodoEmpire | Thw community is fairly welcome to outsiders, so have fun while you're here. :3 |
| 23:50.18 | DrodoEmpire | *The |
| 23:50.31 | Banelord88_ | Ok quick question...I'm so confused what exactly is the current situation with the Ravenrii lol |
| 23:50.41 | OluapPlayer | Destroyed |
| 23:50.46 | Banelord88_ | Ok thank you :) |
| 23:51.15 | Banelord88_ | Alright, how are they being replaced with the relighting and stuff like that? |
| 23:51.34 | OluapPlayer | He'll never know |
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| 23:54.31 | Banelord88 | Yea my phone just kinda reloaded the page I'm sorry about that |
| 23:54.31 | OluapPlayer | About your question, no one is replacing the Ravenrii |
| 23:54.44 | Banelord88 | Ok just checking thank you for the confirmation |
| 23:56.21 | Banelord88 | Also, since I believe I heard somewhere you were the one to talk to about this Oluap, the nation I'm thinking about creating is one that travels between universes and colonizes each one with a small portion of it's fleet and never returns after that so I wanted to ask about the different universes thing I can give you more information if you need it |
| 23:57.04 | OluapPlayer | Depends of their Tier level. New users have to start with Tier 3s or lower |
