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00:00.07Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Monet47/Random_Things#Draconis_Opinion_Of_21st_Century_Humans the more I look at what I wrote here the more I think, "al lthis is becfause we are still drive nby tribal mentalities"
00:00.10LawfulInsaneHi
00:00.22TybusenInevitably in sci-fi there's a human element, otherwise we couldn't relate to it, but it's different enough to be excitingly different
00:02.18TybusenI'm thinking I could write a TIAF opinion of 21st century humans
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00:04.31TekDroidHi
00:10.44Wormyhello
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00:29.09Wormybye
00:30.37Aeohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Not_Your_World_Anymore#The_Second_Meeting Finished, OfficerJackal TekDroid Hachi_ thoughts?
00:31.01Hachi_I'll give my thoughts soon, working
00:32.01Aeothanks
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00:48.47Hachi_It becomes an irritance once you realize that there are people out there who think "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is a direct reference to Call of Duty
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02:01.44LawfulInsanedum
02:02.30LawfulInsaneTo those of you who will read this
02:02.32LawfulInsaneMay a thousand Dvotties rest on your shoulders.
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02:31.42TekDroidHey Aeo
02:31.58Aeohi
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08:13.11Liquid_InkHello.
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08:42.28Wormyhi
08:42.53Liquid_InkHello.\
08:42.57Liquid_InkHow are you?
08:43.51Sporeraptorhi
08:43.51WormyNo demons today
08:44.03Wormyso alright
08:46.13Liquid_InkI'm setting about the re-canonisation of these guys: spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Defensive_System's_Bloc/Religions_of_the_DSB/Four_Llamalope-Men_of_Destruction
08:46.22Liquid_Inkspore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Defensive_System's_Bloc/Religions_of_the_DSB/Four_Llamalope-Men_of_Destruction
08:46.34Liquid_Inkhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Defensive_System's_Bloc/Religions_of_the_DSB/Four_Llamalope-Men_of_Destruction
08:46.49Liquid_Inkhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Krytyczny_Discontinuity Into this.
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08:50.07Dollar17greetings Wormy
08:54.23Liquid_InkHow inconvienient
08:56.38Aeoimpales Dollar17 with a forgiveness spike.
08:56.45Aeo:)
08:57.26Dollar17impales Aeo with a leave-me-alone spike.
08:57.34AeoAlright then.
08:57.39AeoFair enough.
08:57.48Dollar17I wasn't here for you, there is no point.
08:58.19AeoI know, but I don't like having enemies.
09:00.13Dollar17and you're not doing a good enough job at not having enemies, imo.
09:01.06AeoI know.
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09:34.29Hachi_Hello
09:35.36Liquid_InkHello.
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09:36.41Hachi_Hai Imp
09:38.16Liquid_Inkhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Imperial_State_of_Corvidar A start.
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09:55.17GhelaeHello.
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09:56.52Aeohi
09:56.53Liquid_InkHello Ghelae!
09:56.58m19omghello
09:57.04m19omglong time no see
09:57.13AeoWho r u m19omg?
09:57.28GhelaeHello.
09:58.29Liquid_Inkhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Lequian_Nether_Union Another start.
09:58.48Aeom19omg ?
09:59.19m19omgi was here as mixbaxter first
09:59.35AeoI see
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10:01.54Liquid_InkWere Hachi and Impy involved in that situation?
10:05.24Liquid_InkSo how are Ghelae?
10:05.30Liquid_Ink*how are you
10:05.36GhelaeGhelae are well. How are Liquid_Ink?
10:06.38Liquid_InkI'm fine thank you.
10:06.56Liquid_InkAnything of interest happening in the fiction universes?
10:07.22GhelaeNothing to do with me that I can think of.
10:07.50Liquid_InkHow's your fiction going?
10:08.01GhelaeSame as always. Nothing's happening with it. :P
10:08.33Liquid_InkYou don't have any active stories?
10:09.53GhelaeNo.
10:10.33GhelaeI was thinking of writing a short story involving one of the Civilisation's Adventurers. But that requires me to think of all of the little bits of plot, which I haven't worked out yet.
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10:11.27ImpyDroidhi@
10:11.50MOnetHi
10:12.32GhelaeHello.
10:18.00MOnetAfter watching a few episodes of Stargate with them, the Ori physically scare the crap out of me and I haven't even seen their military capacity
10:18.29Liquid_InkOkay with the Mirror Universe, the Venhokwe are alive and well, they're just lacking in any territory. Should I make them part of the Hegemony or independant?
10:23.47MOnetA tough call. Make them another Hegemony province or having them wander the galaxy tring to keep apwat from them
10:23.51MOnetaway*
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10:26.37GhelaeHello.
10:26.46Dollar17greetings Ghel
10:33.03Hachi_Hey Monet
10:33.12MOnetHi
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10:35.05MOnetWhat scares me about the Ori is that apart from being of similar linegae to Stargate's Ancients, they are almost nothing alike. They spread this religious doctrone called Origin which prommises ascension. The real scary thing is that other than ascension, worshipping the Ori in fact drains you of life to empower the Ori themselves. Ori wroshi pslowly kills you to feed them.
10:35.20MOnetrather than ascension, sorry
10:36.10MOnetWorshippers and even the Ori's missionaries - the highly-evolved and formidably psychic Priors - are completely unaware.
10:37.25Hachi_hur
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10:37.53GhelaeHello.
10:38.40Technobliteratorhii
10:39.32MOnetHi
10:40.10MOnetAlso all priors were once human. Taken by the Ori and engineered to be highly evolved, they are probably the closest one can become to being an Ascendant under the Ori.
10:41.33Hachi_I just realized how weak the Reapers actually are
10:42.59MOnetDo you mean the derelict reaper?
10:43.20MOnetOr have you finished the Suicide Mission?
10:43.56Hachi_Derelict Reaper, Reaper getting killed by Thresher Maw in ME3, Reaper getting killed by Leviathans, Sovereign
10:44.21Hachi_Oh and I finished the Suicide Mission with zero deaths
10:44.27Hachi_Somehow
10:45.55MOnetWell to be fair A that Thresher Maw reaper was not as big as a normal reaper and B that was one fucking massive Thresher
10:47.05MOnetAlso the Derelict Reaper did you encounter the planet with an enormous canyon?
10:47.15Hachi_Yeah I did
10:47.22Hachi_I remember the story behind it
10:47.50Hachi_The Reaper got took out by an ancient civilization in a last act of defiance
10:48.02Hachi_And the canyon was formed as collateral damage from the shot
10:48.28MOnetA canyon that probably rivals the massive United-States sized-canyon on Mars.
10:49.26Hachi_I chose to destroy the Collector base in the edn
10:49.27Hachi_end*
10:49.41MOnetSame.
10:50.02MOnetMy way of saying "FUCK YOU TIM!"
10:50.07Hachi_ohgod
10:50.31Hachi_Somehow Jack and Tali were unloyal yet they survived the Suicide Mission, although that's probably because I didn't assign them to anything
10:50.56MOnetY Tali not loyal?
10:51.10Hachi_I chose to side with Legion in their arguement
10:51.28MOnetAre you happy you got your wish for a Geth teammate?
10:51.37Hachi_Yes, pretty happy
10:52.46Hachi_I also chose to reform the heretics back into the Geth
10:54.22MOnetTBF, the division itself was a manipulation of Sovreign.
10:54.50MOnetSo maybe it's more like revealing the truth to them all
10:55.21MOnet...and brainwashing them into accept it :>
10:55.40Hachi_hur
11:01.35MOnetIt makes me wonder waht TIM does if you let him keep the collector base.
11:01.53Liquid_Inkhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Lequian_Nether_Union#Foreign_Relations They have a very Xhodocto-like attitude.
11:02.51Hachi_MOnet: Probably use it against you at some point
11:02.55MOnetI had Miranda with me on the final stage, I remember her saying something along the lines of "I;m bored of blindly following your orders so fuck you and fuck your plans for humannity SHepard blow up the base"
11:04.35MOnetA race of demonically-empowered Lequians? Hot-dam
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11:10.13Hachi_The Illusive Man was originally gonna turn into a Reaper-like creature when you last encounter him in ME3
11:10.14Hachi_But thankfully the guys in charge didn't include it
11:11.11MOnetA Reaper TIM? I sense a boss battle
11:16.27Hachi_The developers scrapped the idea because they wanted to give the players the satisfaction of fighting an enemy they know rather than a random creature
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11:40.30MOnethttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/c/c1/DIFlag_New.png I felt the old DI flag was a little uninspiring so I made this
11:41.44MOnetThis one now has lots more symbolism.
11:45.31Hachi_Ooh that looks very nice
11:48.25MOnetThe words at the bottom read "vassh crauss vorss.", which in English means "peace, pride, grace"
11:48.58MOnetCrap I just realised I Made a grammatical error!
11:49.29MOnetThe way I've written "Vassh" I've put it on the flag as "Vass"
11:49.41Hachi_A grammatical error in Dracid
11:49.44Hachi_hao dis
11:50.14MOnetThe Dracid alphabet uses phonetics.
11:50.23MOnetSO it's more a spelling error
11:56.17MOnetOKay it's fixed, hit F5
11:59.41Hachi_Looks good to me
12:00.19MOnetI changed one letter.
12:01.00MOnetGiven how pedantic High Dracid can be "Vass" could mean sometihng different to "Peace".
12:03.37Hachi_olol
12:05.30Hachi_Collector team mate nao
12:06.13Hachi_http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae329/SlidellofOlde/1267079649160.jpg Funny cuz its tru
12:07.01MOnetHe is Space Batman
12:08.11Hachi_http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/300W/f/2010/079/d/d/Turian_Batman_by_rooster82.jpg Yes
12:10.33MOnetYes. Yes and yes
12:12.26Hachi_http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6214/1295577931932.jpg
12:13.08Hachi_I remember that conversation
12:13.12Hachi_Made me laugh so much
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12:15.42Hachi_http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsd8ajCWJg1r2ymrco1_500.jpg My God
12:16.10MOnetSMooth Shepard, real smooth.
12:23.40Hachi_I got this extract from an ME parody strip
12:23.41Hachi_Garrus - Hey Shepard I'm back! Sorry for being late, gunnery maintenance work, you know how it is. And...I worked up a little bit of...steam.    Shepard - Can it wait for a bit? I'm in the middle of some calibrations.
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12:24.54ImperiosGah
12:24.56ImperiosWhere is Oluap
12:25.03MOnethttp://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/Draconid-Imperium-Imperial-Crest-390160448 okay i've put it on DA
12:25.17MOnetImperios: Look at dat!
12:25.20ImperiosWow this is awesome
12:31.15Liquid_InkImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Lequian_Nether_Union
12:31.24ImperiosSeen that
12:31.25ImperiosEbul
12:31.48Liquid_InkThey have a very Xhodocto-ish relations section.
12:32.02Liquid_InkGoodnight.
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12:51.45Dollar17greetings Impy
13:24.16Hachi_Imperios: "Let's call your legs 'calibrations' cuz I'm gonna be in the middle of them real soon."
13:25.01Imperioshur
13:26.22Hachi_http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6492/garruscomic2.jpg My God
13:27.15Dollar17lol
13:29.07Imperioshur
13:33.18Hachi_I might redo Mass Effect 2 in order to romance Garrus
13:33.24Hachi_And then move onto ME3
13:35.20ImperiosHm
13:35.26ImperiosMaybe I could romance Garrus as my femshep?
13:35.27ImperiosWait
13:35.30ImperiosYour shep is female?
13:35.54Hachi_No, my shep is male
13:35.59Hachi_But I wanna have a go at femshep
13:41.02ImperiosSame
13:41.09ImperiosBut my femshap gonna be lesbian :P
13:42.30Dollar17good enough
13:48.40Hachi_Oh wait I remember
13:48.44Hachi_Oluap's havin surgery
13:57.54ImperiosShit
13:58.07ImperiosFor how long will he be unavailable
14:02.11Hachi_Dunno, should be back soon
14:05.20ImperiosThe shirtless plot can't continue without his character
14:05.31ImperiosI'll either wait for him or RP as her
14:05.41ImperiosWhat should I do?
14:08.47Imperios[[]]
14:08.47morgothBotPyImperios meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
14:10.47GhelaeHello.
14:11.03Dollar17greetings Ghelae
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14:12.57TheImperiosHm
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14:13.47ImperiosHello
14:13.49GhelaeHello.
14:15.27Imperios[[]]
14:15.27morgothBotPyImperios meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
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14:16.18Sporeraptorhi
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14:38.33Imperios[[]]
14:38.34morgothBotPyImperios meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
14:41.44Imperioshttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/4/47/Cecrops.png this dude will appear in the New Dawn
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14:46.50GhelaeHello.
14:50.30Hachi_Imperios: Gimme a good formal rename for Section IV
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14:54.26Hachi_Hai
14:55.55GhelaeHello.
14:56.04Imperiosback
14:56.07ImperiosHachi_: Hm
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14:56.26OfficerJackalHello!
14:56.28GhelaeHello.
14:57.57ImperiosThe Inquest?
14:58.22Hachi_Hmm
14:58.24Hachi_I like it
14:58.42Hachi_But it sounds a bit too similar to the Inquisition
14:59.01ImperiosDuh
14:59.12ImperiosThey share an etymological root
14:59.20Imperioshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquest
15:00.02Hachi_Hmm makes sense
15:00.59ImperiosOr probably the Inquest Agency
15:01.48ImperiosOr the Astynomia
15:03.18WormyI saw an 18th/19th century steam vehicle thing on the road today travelling at footpace.  I'm surprised its even considered road worthy today
15:04.01Wormyhttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8541/8668348330_30bf6da409_z.jpg
15:05.01Hachi_Imperios: Astynomia?
15:05.42ImperiosThat's Greek for "Police"
15:05.46ImperiosSomething-law, I believe
15:06.38Hachi_Hmm, Inquest Agency sounds good
15:07.21Imperioshttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/4/47/Cecrops.png so people
15:07.31ImperiosThis dude will appear in the New Dawn
15:07.36ImperiosAs in, the ship storyline
15:08.06Hachi_hu dat
15:10.11ImperiosBasically this is a sea monster IN SPACE
15:10.21ImperiosA hugeass starship-sized serpent-thingie
15:10.23Hachi_i sea
15:10.31Hachi_sea wat i did thar
15:10.37Hachi_an thar
15:10.53Hachi_Is it an Inheritance guy?
15:11.29ImperiosSorta
15:11.37ImperiosYou'll see, but it's related, yes
15:11.44Hachi_it shud b ally
15:11.49Hachi_rogue inheritans
15:12.45Imperiossorta, you'll see
15:15.52Wormy"Fuck, I would love to have a bedtime story read by Morgan Freeman.."  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCA5pU0RxK0
15:21.18Wormythat video makes the modern world feel so awesome
15:21.50Wormyso does this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj5gMh4s9x4
15:22.56Hachi_Morgan Freeman makes everything awesome
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15:43.21WormyI can't believe I forgot to mention the Unseen Entity
15:43.30Wormyin my glossary
15:44.29WormyThe hidden storyline that pervades all my fiction and perhaps the only supernatural force (sorry Xho)
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15:51.18WormyIts something thats neither existence or non-existence, something so different its a paradox merely to describe it as I am now
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15:52.36WormyBut its not necessarily non-physical, as it interacts with the universe.  So rather than metaphysical, it is more of an epistemological, perceptual and semantic problem
15:53.47WormyIt is doing something I can't describe that hampers the development of my fiction in all timelines
15:54.17WormyNot necessarily an evil or chaotic entity though
15:55.16WormyAnd at Time's Terminal, the fate of all fiction will be contested
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16:17.37AngrybirdsBoss just came in through the door. "I've got donuts! Friday! Woo!"
16:20.20Wormyfat boss
16:22.40AngrybirdsHe's not fat :(
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16:30.53Xhostoopid oluap get bak onlien
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16:36.56XhoThe lack of Oluap is now beginning to be dum
16:37.02TheBuilderHi
16:37.08CyrannianHello!
16:37.25XhoOne of two things - internet connection is down across his town or he's getting his leg checked out
16:43.17ImperiosHi Cyra
16:43.22ImperiosThe latter probably
16:47.58Wormyhi
16:56.32Xhohttp://parablevisions.com/?page_id=525 Some incredible artwork here
16:59.47TheBuilderohgod
17:05.24CyrannianXho: http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-moranosaurus%7C500302488262%3Asast-500607770425%3Apg-1180 - geezus
17:05.45Xhoech
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17:19.57Zmr56Hi there
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17:37.48MonetHello
17:44.32Worny3woops
17:44.34Worny3Hi
17:44.56WormyGetting used to my keyboard again lol
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17:45.14GhelaeHello.
17:45.17WormyHi
17:45.35MonetHi
17:45.55MonetWormy: It's official. The Ori scare me.
17:46.32WormyThey scare me as well
17:47.11WormyIn fact they are another reason not to worship ascended beings
17:47.26Aeohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Father_and_Son#Ameius_and_the_Cleanser Wormy Imperios TekDroid thoughts?
17:47.30MonetI haven't seen their technology in action yet but i've seen their Priors.
17:47.44Imperioshm
17:47.45ImperiosHu Min
17:47.47ImperiosHi Mon
17:47.54WormyMonet:  Like that one Ori Prior collapsed a whole planet
17:48.24MonetANother thing that scared me recently: Anumbis making a Goa'Uld-human hybrid successor
17:48.28MonetAnubis*
17:48.47WormyYeah, they are pretty badass
17:49.16MonetOne Anubis was bad enough.
17:51.09WormyThese Ori do seem magical.  One prior mentioned technology in a mocking tone when Daniel argued with one
17:51.20WormyBut I suspect godtech
17:52.36MonetYou don't force the idea something's magic onto Daniel Jackson.
17:53.23WormyThats right, I remember one episode when he met an ascended Ancient, and he believed he was doing magic when it turned out to be one creating an illusion
17:55.52MonetThe Ancients, the Nox, the Tollan, I think he's even argued with the Asgard over how their respective technologies should be given out.
17:56.53MonetNamely "stop hoarding all of it while the only hope this glaaxy has is getting killed you stubbourn old men"
17:57.41WormyAncients, Nox and Tollans seem to be interested in non-inteference, while the Asgard tend to uplift races and individuals in order to communicate
18:00.22MonetThe lesson seems to be A question of choosing either restraint or elf-destruction.
18:00.28Monetself*
18:01.04MonetTo not use a powerful device or get drunk with power over it?
18:02.02WormyYeah
18:02.12WormyWait until you see the Ori superships
18:06.45Aeohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aeoneonatrix I've added some introductory paragraphs to the top, Imperios Wormy thoughts?
18:08.09ImperiosWow
18:08.09WormyWell written
18:08.11ImperiosThat's descriptive
18:08.32Imperios>Culturally, the Aeoneonatrix are often hedonistic and superficial, though not at the expense of others. Their popular culture is permeated with shallow movies and video games whose chief appeal is the sexualization of both male and female characters and the presence of large explosions and action set-pieces.
18:08.35ImperiosSpess muhricans hur
18:10.06TekDroidAeo Angrydroid just a heads up that I'll be on minimal connections for the next week and mostly inactive.
18:10.40AngrydroidAlright :(
18:10.51TekDroidI'llcheckin, but the connection is weak there.
18:10.57MonetDraconis - U fail at culture.
18:11.00AeoImperios: No. The Aeons are way Way WAY worse. Every movie is as shallow as a Michael Bay movie, though less racist and with less annoying comic relief.
18:11.26CyrannianWormy: I just played your Battle of Canceron battle. It was very satisfying seeing the Cognatus kill the Ravenrii.
18:11.33AeoThe most you can hope for is good enough action set-pieces to qualify it as a passible popcorn flick.
18:11.43XhoMonet: Following on from what we were talking about with the Kicath yesterday, would Paclernos have trace amounts of silicon in their atmosphere?
18:12.08Xhoits
18:12.15XhoMan my English is poor
18:12.48WormyCyrannian:  :D  I don't remember adding the Raven'rii but I agree
18:12.53MonetXho: Hmm, silicon may be a bit heavy to be a gas.
18:13.10XhoRight
18:13.11XhoHm
18:13.26CyrannianWormy: Also, who owned the Kazuru? They were also featured in the adventure
18:13.28MonetDo you men as silicon dioxide?
18:13.34XhoProbably
18:13.43XhoBut isn't silicon dioxide a solid?
18:13.50MonetYeah it is
18:14.03MonetSIlicon dioxide is one of the primary forms of rock
18:14.17XhoHm
18:14.34XhoIsn't there any gaseous state of silicon compounds that exist at room temperature?
18:14.42WormyCyrannian:  Remember this user? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:NanjeofKro
18:14.52CyrannianOh yes
18:14.58GhelaeXho: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/silane
18:15.05Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrannian_Republic/Foreign_Relations#Milky_Way_Galaxy - I added the DCP
18:15.24XhoHm
18:15.44XhoSo they might have trace amounts of silane in their atmosphere then
18:16.15XhoThat would make their atmosphere poisonous to humans right
18:16.19MonetAccoding to this it's an analogue of methane.
18:16.51MonetSo chances are that instead of hydrocarbons, Kicath could sue hydrosilicon-based products.
18:17.40ImperiosCyrannian: The Kazaru you mean?
18:25.19XhoKicath - heh fuk ur carbon
18:25.56XhoSo instead of carbon, silane has silicon right
18:25.58MonetWell silane's not very useful i nthe atmosphere, its' good at auto-igniting.
18:26.03MonetYeah
18:26.12XhoSo Silane would be SiH4 right
18:26.20XhoGCSE Chemistry ftw hur
18:26.51Wormylol I still keep some revision books.
18:26.59MonetAutoignition temperature is 294K = 21 degrees C.
18:27.29XhoXhodocto - OHOHO
18:27.30WormyThere might be an effect of pressure though, on such reactions
18:27.35GhelaeAnd I imagine its combustion involves it reacting with oxygen to form silicon dioxide.
18:27.53XhoSo high chances are that Paclernos is a majorly arid planet then
18:28.39WormyMaybe there is a geological process removing oxygen from the atmosphere
18:28.48Wormyin a free state
18:28.51XhoWell silane is a toxic gas so anyone who isn't biologically suited for it will die on Paclernos' atmosphere
18:28.59MonetPerhaps Kicath breathe someting other than oxygen?
18:29.25GhelaeHydrogen?
18:29.35WormyRemind what biological composition you decided on
18:29.37GhelaeSo Palcernos has a reducing atmosphere.
18:29.50XhoIt's probable but it would be difficult to explain how Kicath can survive on other planets and foreign aliens can survive on Kicathian colonies
18:30.11MonetArtificial air supplies?
18:30.15GhelaeGenetic engineering?
18:30.40MonetIn the DI you can get these masks that look like wireframes that go over your mouth. THey can let solid matter in but keep air out.
18:30.43WormyI'm pretty sure advanced civilisations that can travel to the stars can sort that out
18:30.50XhoWell oxygen could be their main intake to respire but their systems could just be attuned to silane/silicon dioxide
18:30.50MonetBy creating some kind of bubble
18:30.54GhelaeThat would be some complex engineering, to allow an organism to breathe either oxygen or hydrogen. But the Kicath are old enough to have developed it.
18:31.15Ghelaeeither oxygen or hydrogen depending on the atmosphere*
18:31.53XhoIt's probable that Paclernos' atmosphere is oxygen based but just has silane/silicon dioxide traces rather than carbon dioxide
18:32.00GhelaeWhere did the idea of having silicon-based compounds in Paclernos's atmosphere come from in the first place?
18:32.08XhoIt came from Kicathian biology
18:32.41XhoMy main assumption was that carbon based life forms would have evolved on planets that have carbon based compound in its atmosphere
18:32.42WormyRemind me what was decided upon
18:33.04XhoKicath are silicon based life forms
18:33.18MonetThere is CO2 in the atmosphere but it's a waste compound for non-photosynthesising life
18:33.19XhoSo my assumption would be that silicon based life forms would have silicon based compounds in its atmosphere
18:33.24GhelaeIt's really the case that carbon-based compounds are in the atmosphere *because* of carbon-based lifeforms.
18:33.58XhoSo I am making sense then
18:34.32GhelaeAlthough Earth did have carbon dioxide in the atmosphere before life, that just proved to be a useful carbon source when the first cyanobacteria came along. Paclernoan organisms could have used silicon dioxide in rock as their silicon source.
18:34.44MonetIf we're adding silane into Paclernos' atmosphere my only assumtion is it's existence comes form millions of years of farting Paclernon life.
18:34.59XhoWell that would be the case I guess
18:35.02WormyReasonably we need to think of some chemical cycles for Paclernoan life
18:35.17GhelaeSilicon-based life works with pure sulfuric acid as a solvent.
18:35.18MonetWel lthis has escalated rather quickly
18:35.20XhoSilicon based life produce silicon based compounds into the atmosphere
18:35.56XhoAlthough right now i'm more concerned with the planet's atmosphere and terrain
18:36.47GhelaeIt's possible, Xho, depending on the metabolic processes involved. But one thing to consider is that purely silicon-based life isn't exactly plausible (even life on Earth isn't purely carbon-based; proteins have about half as much nitrogen in their backbones as they do carbon).
18:37.17XhoWell I think I mentioned the Kicath being partially silicon based
18:37.34GhelaeThe only proposed biology for a silicon-based organism that I can think of off the top of my head is that they have both carbon dioxide and silicon dioxide as waste products.
18:37.43XhoMakes sense to me
18:37.50GhelaeBreathing oxygen, of course.
18:38.03WormyWell four of the eight known organic compounds found in space with silicon had carbon as well
18:38.04GhelaeThere is a slight problem that water would be highly toxic to them, however.
18:38.13GhelaeIIRC.
18:38.19XhoHm
18:38.27XhoSo what would be their equivalent
18:38.31GhelaeSulfuric acid.
18:38.47XhoOh god
18:38.53GhelaeImperios has creatures like this.
18:38.55XhoRivers of sulfuric acid
18:39.03XhoSeas even
18:39.06GhelaeYep.
18:39.09XhoThat's just terrifying
18:39.33XhoSo by that judgement, I guess such chemicals wouldn't corrode their skin
18:39.51ImperiosYes, the Fyrvrtha
18:40.12GhelaeChemicals that aren't acidic enough would be alkaline to them. But things that are strong acids to them would be like soapy water at worst.
18:40.20Ghelaestrong acids to us*
18:40.43MonetNever underestimate the power of alkalines.
18:40.44XhoKicath - Who says people can't bathe in the sea
18:41.01XhoI have to work with alkaline chemicals every day at work
18:41.07XhoNot the nicest stuff ever
18:41.30MonetA lot of alkalines are used in cleaning fluids
18:41.34XhoSo the terrain colour of Paclernos now
18:41.52XhoWell judging by what we've said, silver would be a tint in most terrain
18:42.10XhoI was thinking a very dull red/brown for most of it
18:42.43GhelaeMy first thought is that such a colour would suggest a lot of iron oxide, like on Mars.
18:43.09XhoPossibly although I was thinking less colourful than that
18:43.36MonetI hear NAssa saturates the images they get
18:43.36GhelaeActually: http://orionsarm.com/xcms.php?r=oaeg-view-article&egart_uid=497f12fdaf57c
18:43.40XhoSomething closer to tin dioxide really
18:43.51XhoWell mineral wise
18:44.15GhelaeYeah. The sunlight on Mars is too dim to see things as clearly as you'd like if you want to properly analyse the images.
18:44.30Monethttp://www.edb.utexas.edu/missiontomars/images/mars1.jpeg not so red
18:44.41XhoHm
18:44.49XhoAnything with a darker colour?
18:46.11XhoCloser to brown actually
18:47.34MonetTHere are a lot of images of a red/orange Mars
18:48.51XhoIn terms of minerals I was thinking that Paclernos' surface would be dark grey/silver/brown minerals
18:49.14GhelaeThe Orion's Arm page mentions corundum as being likely to exist on those planets. So sulfate rocks with microscopic flecks of things like ruby and sapphire of various colours could probably be adjusted to give whatever colours you like.
18:50.15WormyYou can always ask me for geological tips
18:50.19MonetMicroscopic grystals and gemstones are quite common.
18:50.23Monetcrystals*
18:50.25XhoWhat about hematite?
18:50.38WormyRock pretty much is a crystalline composite
18:50.52WormyThats an iron oxide mineral
18:50.55GhelaeAreas without the corundum, being pure sulfate rock, could easily be greyish/silverish.
18:50.58XhoWell that works
18:51.46WormyIf we consider that oxygen is depleting from the Kicathaian homeworld, its a possibility they are locked up in the rocks and soil
18:52.05GhelaeHematite is likely to be found in desert areas, if it's dissolved by sulfuric acid.
18:52.22XhoMakes sense
18:52.32XhoWhat about things like Stibnite
18:53.35GhelaeI imagine that could exist in some quantities.
18:53.42XhoRight
18:54.05GhelaeAntimony would be the limiting factor for the amounts of that mineral, rather than sulfur.
18:54.13XhoHm
18:54.47XhoHow would vegetation work?
18:54.57WormySulfide minerals are the lowest oxidation state, so I imagine, it takes the least energy to form such compounds
18:56.07XhoBut before that what would Paclernos' atmospheric colour be
18:56.45WormyThey form deeper underground on Earth due to the free oxygen present on the surface.  The only problem is that they often form as hydrothermal depositsbut I suppose sulfuric acid could work
18:56.56GhelaeTo quote the Orion's Arm page:
18:57.03Ghelae"As the sulfuric acid vapor is largely colorless and these worlds tend to orbit G and F-type stars, their skies are often a pale shade of blue or green, some may even appear white."
18:57.14XhoHm
18:57.16Ghelae" Many worlds will tend toward the green due to the presence of sulfate aerosols."
18:58.14XhoSo let's go between the two and say http://www.colorhexa.com/29ab87.png
18:58.29Monethttp://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8636626.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/pg-32-mars-1.jpg found this, the media call it a squirrel, I call it "Looks like a squirrel but merely the product of coinidental formations"
18:58.29WormySulfate minerals do form closer to the surface
18:58.39XhoOr maybe teal
18:59.03WormyLooks like a Martian Lizard to me
18:59.07Xhohttp://www.colorhexa.com/008080.png
18:59.44MonetAll I See is a rock
19:00.13XhoWould make sense considering Kicath like silver and teal
19:00.31XhoIf the ground of Paclernos has a silver tint in sunlight and a teal sky
19:00.34Monethttp://images.mnn.com/sites/default/files/MarsRat.jpg same with this IMO
19:01.10WormySimilacra
19:01.37WormyDo you still want the Kicath to have titanium scales?
19:01.43Xhoyus
19:02.03WormyI don't know if titanium oxides might work or not but they'll need a way to extract it
19:02.03XhoI suppose titanium would exist in their terrain compounds as well
19:02.12WormyI need dinner
19:03.18GhelaeIf sulfuric acid can dissolve some titanium compounds in Paclernos's terrain, then there's no problem.
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19:04.57GhelaePaclernoan organisms would make use of metals more than Terran ones do due to sulfuric acid being... well, an acid. They tend to be good at dissolving metals, last time I checked.
19:14.17ImperiosGah where is Hachi
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19:27.47WormyGhelae:  I bet it affected the technological development in Kicathanian technology in a beneficial way
19:28.06Wormy*Kicathaian society
19:28.12GhelaeIt would have made extracting metals a lot easier.
19:29.07WormyI wonder if they also worshipped metal gods
19:29.14GhelaeKicath - Hmm. I could do with some aluminium.
19:29.18GhelaeKicath - *burns a tree*
19:29.25XhoKicath worshipped Meshuggah
19:29.30Wormylol
19:29.30Xhoc wat i did dere
19:29.40Wormyc
19:30.16WormyNo wonder Kicathian metallurgy is some of the best in the known universe.
19:33.58WormyMy Grimbolsaurians are very humanlike, unfortunately
19:34.11Xhohttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/8/80/Paclernos.png ---> http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/3/32/PlanetPaclernosNewMap.png Drastic contrast hur
19:34.37Wormyhumanlike values, culture, governmet, even biology is Earthly.  But I can't really change them now
19:34.52GhelaeWhy not?
19:36.01WormyI think mentally and socially they would be hardere to change.  Afterall the DCP is somewhat like European colonial empires
19:36.11XhoNow I need to update Paclernos' planet picture
19:39.22WormyI suppose I could make other empires in the DCP more alien
19:40.18WormyIt has hundreds of members, potentially thousands conquered during the Golden Era
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19:41.50WormyThere is over 150 years between the defeat of the Grox and the founding of the SSA
19:42.20WormyA lot time for the DCP to establish itself in the galaxy.  I would like to expand on it one day
19:43.15WormyI don't think they got on well with human factions
19:45.30WormyBut they could have been up against considerably more powerful human factions back then
19:46.04WormySome transplanted humans had been spacefaring before the Terrans
19:50.09WormyI could bring back old nearly forgotten fiction like the Taxton as well
19:50.37Xhohttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/2/29/PlanetPaclernosNew.png There we go
19:50.49WormyAwesome
19:52.26XhoFrom that, I suppose Kicathian vegetation is brown/black
19:53.05XhoAlthough can such life exist
19:53.13Xhoi.e. able to exist in an atmosphere like that
19:56.26XhoThis planet almost reminds me of the planet in Prometheus now
19:59.07ImperiosHi
19:59.16MonetALcanti vegetation is red so I can imagien brown/black foliage
19:59.36MonetHi
19:59.44XhoHow would such flora exist on a planet like Paclernos though?
20:00.03WormyGenetically engineered plants with black foliage is thought to make efficient crops
20:00.13MonetNo reflected light
20:00.23XhoRight
20:00.29XhoBut the sulfuric acid part?
20:03.25ImperiosBack
20:04.22WormyShouldn't be a problem
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20:07.05Technobliteratorwatching a tourney btw
20:07.26Wormytourney?  Whats that
20:07.35Technobliteratortournament
20:08.21ImperiosMonet: [[fiction:Cecrops.png]] this thing will appear in TND
20:08.21morgothBotPyImperios meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/fiction:Cecrops.png
20:08.24Imperioswhat do you think?
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20:08.59ImperiosMonet: [[fiction:Cecrops.png]] this thing will appear in TND
20:08.59morgothBotPyImperios meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/fiction:Cecrops.png
20:09.03ImperiosWhat do you think?
20:09.13MonetI think there' sbeen some link confusion
20:09.40Imperioshm
20:09.48Imperios[[file:Cecrops.png]]
20:09.48morgothBotPyImperios meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/file:Cecrops.png
20:09.49Imperiosdere
20:10.29MonetWow...definitely looks bizarre. SOme kind of Tertamian construct?
20:11.02ImperiosYa
20:11.48Wormycool
20:13.14XhoMonet: Any biological explanation on how Kicath could deal with humidity on other planets?
20:14.43Xhoi.e. water in the atmosphere = dedification
20:14.48MonetBiological? Pfft not sure. Maybe a protective layer over their scales.
20:15.23XhoHm
20:15.32Xhoand what about inhalation?
20:15.39WormyTechnology
20:15.40XhoProtective films over lungs?
20:16.09MonetTechnology's your best bet to protect from inhalation.
20:16.18XhoHm makes sense
20:16.26XhoMost or all Kicath are enhanced in one way or another
20:16.48WormyIf they can work out how to travel to the stars after than the speed of light they can work this out.
20:16.55Wormy*faster
20:17.41MonetWhile Kicath are an old spacefaring race, considerable adaptations to their biology arising naturally is unlikely.
20:17.54XhoTrue
20:18.52XhoThat being said
20:19.01XhoImagine if a human landed on Paclernos
20:19.07XhoThe ded could not be contained
20:19.30WormyThe human would be wise to cover up as well
20:19.45WormyPoor Hachi
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20:20.07XhoTheir experience on Tantum would have probably meant that all of them had to wear hazard protection gear
20:20.39WormyWait humans visited a Kicath planet?
20:20.46XhoIn Tantum yeah
20:20.50XhoThe entire team went to Paclernos
20:21.31WormyI suppose there must be contact if Kicath agents have Greek names
20:21.58XhoIf they didn't wear hazard protection gear, the sensation would be like intense dehydration followed by internal inflammation before suffocating
20:22.04Wormywell, alphabet
20:22.08MonetThe only ones during TM who I don't think needed protection were Macin and Sarec
20:22.24MonetKezoreg may not have worn it because he's dum like that
20:22.25Wormynasty
20:23.30XhoYou would probably last around 30 seconds before collapsing unconscious
20:23.59XhoAnother 30 then death
20:24.12XhoWould be an excruciating death
20:24.33XhoIt would be like shoving a red hot pizza cutter down your throat and scraping it against your insides
20:25.00MonetPepperoni pizza
20:26.09TybusenAt that point I think it's a pepperoni calzone
20:26.24Cyrannianhttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/24/CyraLegacy11.png - Bazing
20:27.06XhoI don't think your body would recognize the temperature being only on average a degree hotter than Earth at that point
20:27.17Imperioshttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/5/59/The_Star_Leviathan.png And there's the Cecrops in action
20:27.17XhoThe atmosphere would probably cause your cells to shut down
20:27.44XhoOr nervous system
20:28.04XhoI can't even imagine how painful that death would be
20:28.23MonetCyrannian: I saw Sola's new picture, has she been window-shopping in local Quadrant millinaries?
20:28.40WormyNice conversations always end up talking about death with Xho
20:29.28Xhoyeh
20:29.34XhoThe Xho Effect
20:29.44XhoCivil Conversation ----> ??? ----> Death
20:30.06Wormylol, I usually introduce the weird ??? part
20:30.08TybusenXho's Law: Anything that can go wrong will go wrong and result in excruciating death
20:30.25XhoUsually yes
20:30.27ImperiosSo basically the Xeranbha are the evolved Catharsis?
20:31.34CyrannianRetconned Catharsis
20:31.47ImperiosYou renamed them?
20:32.03ImperiosIn the present as well?
20:32.41CyrannianNo. The true name of the "Manipulators" are the Xeranbha
20:32.51CyrannianThough I might rename the Catharsis page
20:32.51MonetI shall coin a new term: Dinohat. THe defenition: Any kind of hat that is either big, ludicrously fancy, could be used as an icon or all of the above.
20:33.24ImperiosAh
20:34.13Xhohur
20:35.00TybusenI always wondered how Ramashe kept that crown of hers on her head
20:35.20MonetStraps :P
20:36.05TybusenHow does she not fall over then? :U
20:36.17MonetNot everyone knows this, but Ramashes' crown has a concealed compartment that holds an emergency blaster rifle.
20:36.42XhoDhazhrak - I know that yeh
20:39.48MonetTybusen: Perhaps there are portable negative mass generators built into all Quadrant Galaxies headgear?
20:40.40ImperiosMoss offoct
20:40.58ImperiosOkay I really can't speak, Iovera's hat is among the largest in the Sporewikiverse
20:41.14TybusenThere's a lot in Ramashe's hat
20:41.34TybusenMaybe Ramashe is secretly a magician
20:41.50TybusenOr a wizard
20:42.50TybusenOr maybe she's actually a Time Lord and her crown is her TARDIS
20:43.08MonetImpertios: I doubt it http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/0/0f/Regent_RamtilsaeV1.png
20:43.28Wormylol
20:44.07TybusenMy Time Lord theory is supported by the fact that Ramashe's regenerated herself at least once
20:44.41XhoThere's a Ramashe in Ramashe's hat
20:44.54XhoAnd there's a Ramashe in Ramashe's hat in Ramashe's hat
20:44.56XhoAnd you see the loop
20:45.01TybusenRamasheception
20:45.20Wormyhttp://scifibulletin.com/2013/08/01/new-doctor-who-to-be-revealed-live-on-bbc1-sunday-night/
20:46.07WormyI'm sad because the Doctor can only regenerate 12 times (and yes, I know one Time Lord regenerated more but for a specific reason I can't remember)
20:46.30TybusenThat means only one more Doctor after this, right?
20:47.18TybusenThough I'm sure BBC won't let one of their most popular franchises die due to plot restrictions
20:47.26Wormy12th is the last
20:47.37MonetIf they stay true it shall be the end of an era.
20:47.54WormyWell we have the Doctor's Daughter/Grand daughter
20:47.55MonetA realyl really magnificent era
20:48.21WormyI'm tempted to say The Doctor is the greatest hero ever imagined
20:49.07Wormyforget Superman and James Bond
20:49.19XhoBatman hur
20:50.13MonetI don't think the doctor has ever once pulled the trigger of a gun onscreen has he?
20:50.32WormyI don't think so
20:50.54MonetTHat's quite a landmark.
20:51.16WormyHe also put his entire species in a time lock to save everyone else
20:52.33WormyAnd has defeated gods
20:52.49WormyHe almost like a god even
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20:54.08CyrannianI just got my daily email from Wikia showing Wiki activity and I just noticed this line in it: "You can always head over to wiki activity to view all of the exciting changes being made on SporeWiki. Check in often, as the founder your community looks to you to help guide and run the wiki."
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20:54.48OluapPlayery i get no op
20:55.03OluapPlayerdere
20:55.05Xho~glomp OluapPlayer
20:55.05infobotACTION becomes fully animated as her eyes squint in an upside-down-U formation, gets a running start and tackle-glomps OluapPlayer
20:55.06WormyFunny cus Zorlac is the founder
20:55.07Xhoi mis u
20:55.12Cyrannian~explode Xho
20:55.12infobotACTION blows up Xho with bombs
20:55.18Cyranniandats my thing
20:55.20OluapPlayerkicks Xho with his new Terminator leg
20:55.23Cyrannian~glomp OluapPlayer
20:55.23infobotACTION becomes fully animated as her eyes squint in an upside-down-U formation, gets a running start and tackle-glomps OluapPlayer
20:55.24WormyUnless you are the Zorlac
20:55.24Xhou got nu leg
20:55.27XhoU GOT NU LEG
20:55.32WormyOW GREAT ONE
20:55.37XhoYou got a Nu leg
20:55.48OluapPlayerAngriest leg
20:55.51BowsBows to Cyrannian
20:55.56BowsWrong commanbd :P
20:55.58MonetHi Oluap!
20:56.11OluapPlayerSo I finally had that leg surgery
20:56.19Xholog sorgory
20:56.36Xhodat wat i sed
20:56.54XhoI said that your connection was gone or you were getting your leg cybernetically enhanced
20:57.05OluapPlayerI'm gonna have to use crutches for a month
20:57.08OluapPlayernghngnhnghn
20:57.20CyrannianYou can hit people with them.
20:57.26WormyDoes it hurt after?
20:57.58OluapPlayerIt hurts if someone touches it and if I try to walk
20:58.06Xhoohey *prod*
20:58.16WormyProbably a little swelling
20:58.22OluapPlayerNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
20:58.27MonetFive years dow nthe line you can always become a Brazillian Adam Jensen on the bottom
20:58.37OluapPlayerI never asked for this
20:58.42Xhoolol
20:58.55XhoOluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Paclernos Retconmania
20:58.59OluapPlayerSo anything happened while I was at the butcher?
20:59.05Xhodat
20:59.18CyrannianXho gave birth to my beautiful daughter Wormy.
20:59.27OluapPlayerew
20:59.42XhoKicath have been retconned to be silicon based life and now Paclernos is now a toxic planet
20:59.43WormyI have Cyrannian's teeth and Xho's eyes
20:59.53OluapPlayernow now
20:59.53XhoWormy is a six eyed waptor
21:00.12OluapPlayerKicath are silicon based
21:00.13Cyrannianhttp://l.yimg.com/ck/image/A1228/122876/300_122876.jpg
21:00.15OluapPlayerArkarixus - get on ma level
21:00.49XhoNow Paclernos looks almost like a barren planet
21:00.53MonetBTW guys for those who haven't seen I want to unveil the DI's new symbol. I was bored of a flag
21:00.54XhoWater = Sulfuric acid
21:01.00Monethttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/c/c1/DIFlag_New.png ta-daa
21:01.11Xhodem words
21:01.13Xhowat dey meen
21:01.21Monet"Peace, pride, grace"
21:01.27OluapPlayer"xho is dum"
21:01.33XhoNOOOOOOOOOOOOH
21:01.42OluapPlayerMonet: Good stuff
21:01.44Xhokicks OluapPlayer in the leg
21:01.48Cyrannian"yolo swag bieber"
21:02.00XhoHachi: The Fag
21:02.01Xho*Flag
21:02.03OluapPlayeru kik urself cus hivemind
21:02.16XhoNOOOOOOOOOOOOH
21:02.49ImperiosOh yes hi OluapPlayer
21:02.50ImperiosYay!
21:02.58MonetI feel this flag is more symbolic than the last one
21:03.08OluapPlayerMonet: i c Mikmik stoof
21:03.12OluapPlayerpart of it at least
21:03.27Technobliteratorheey oluap
21:03.35Technobliteratorhow was the surgery?
21:03.35AeoYes, symbolic os dragons
21:03.41WormyDCP and GEC http://singlemaltmonkey.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/561895567_9707dba47d.jpg
21:03.50AeoWell, not symbolic really
21:03.52ImperiosHope your leg'll get better
21:03.56AeoThere just happen to be dragons
21:04.15AeoAnd a swirly thing
21:04.18MonetAeo: I can proved you a link to a deconstruction if you like.
21:04.19XhoOluapPlayer: I might have to add a section in Tantum where the team have to put on protective suits to survive on Paclernos
21:04.28ImperiosI brought that up one day
21:04.30CyrannianWormy: I lol'd
21:04.30MonetOluapWorker: WOrking on the rest of it now.
21:04.32OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: It was okay except I couldn't piss properly for nearly 24 hours hur
21:04.42Technobliteratorheh
21:04.48Technobliteratorwell, that's good to hear
21:04.52AeoAnd words I can't read, all on a white background which makes it look likt there isn't a background
21:04.52WormyOn a serious note I'd like to make something like this for the Big Three http://www.christopherfowler.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/special-relationship1.jpg
21:04.54Monethttp://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/Draconid-Imperium-Imperial-Crest-390160448 this explains the emblam in detail
21:05.03XhoFound that within a minute you'd die within being on the atmosphere before feeling like being deyhdrated and burned on the inside before losing all feeling and then dead
21:05.07ImperiosIf the Draconisare draconic themsels shouldn't dragons be like gorrilas for them?
21:05.10MonetAeo: There isn't a background, ainly because it's not a flag
21:05.15Technobliteratorif you have a broken leg, does that mean you don't need to go to work?
21:05.16OluapPlayerXho: Ark - meh
21:05.18ImperiosMonet said they're considered to be divine animals
21:05.26OluapPlayerMy leg is not broken
21:05.28Technobliteratorwell
21:05.33CyrannianWormy: That would be awesome
21:05.34Technobliteratorif it's, you know, needing surgey
21:05.34ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/4/47/Cecrops.png Also I made that dood
21:05.37Technobliterator*surgery
21:05.59OluapPlayerImperios: wat dat
21:06.07XhoOluapPlayer: Maximum surface temperature of 80 celsius
21:06.08OluapPlayerLooks like a metal centipede
21:06.21ImperiosBasically a space whale
21:06.27ImperiosExcept that it is a centipede
21:06.29ImperiosNot a whale
21:06.35ImperiosIt's Tertamian-related
21:06.37OluapPlayerhur
21:06.39ImperiosIt'll appear in TND
21:06.57XhoFrom the Tantum section it seems that only Arkarixus, Macin, Sarec, and the Kicath didn't need a hazard suit
21:07.13OluapPlayerMacin would need one
21:07.33OluapPlayerActually no, Macin was not present in the Paclernos section
21:07.36OluapPlayerShe came in later
21:07.39Xhooh yeh
21:07.45XhoArkarxius, Sarec and the Kicath
21:07.56XhoUnless Ark wanted to protect himself from the heat
21:08.12XhoAlthough it was in the far south so it was probably like less than 10 degrees celsius so probably not
21:08.16MonetSarec - I ascended so fuk u planet
21:08.28OluapPlayerMacronormus - :>
21:08.37Xhooho
21:08.40MonetSarec - Trollplanet
21:09.52XhoAlthough now the Kicath are similar to Turians in biology
21:10.02Xhometallic exoskeleton and blue blood
21:10.06TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer: Just to warn you, I'm going away tomorrow until the 18th, so I suppose unless we get anything done now we'll delay Da Blak Kroozade?
21:10.25OluapPlayer16 days
21:10.25OluapPlayerew
21:10.30Technobliteratoryup
21:10.32Technobliterator16 days
21:10.32XhoExcept the Kicathian exoskeleton is titanium and not whatever metal the Turian exoskeleton is
21:10.36Technobliteratoraway on a cruise
21:10.45Technobliteratoroh, and in southampton for a few days
21:10.49XhoEW
21:10.50XhoGTFO
21:10.55OluapPlayerI'm not in the mood for rping today so yeah, it'll be delayed
21:11.03TechnobliteratorI thought that'd be your reaction
21:11.03Xhobet ur in the mood for food
21:11.06Technobliterator...to both hur
21:11.16Technobliteratorthat's fine
21:12.17OluapPlayerI'm not sure how being silicon-based affects fiction. As far as I remember I made the Caretakers, Alvino and Kormacvar all silicon-based
21:12.23XhoNothing much
21:12.40XhoExcept all Kicath are now technologically enhanced in order to survive other conditions where water is present
21:12.46XhoWater is now highly toxic to them
21:12.47TechnobliteratorCaretakers are?
21:12.55OluapPlayerYes
21:13.00TechnobliteratorNever knew that
21:13.13Cyrannianhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQnLHBDCIAA0Dci.jpg:large
21:13.24OluapPlayerSee, it's so insignifcant no one notices hur
21:13.34OluapPlayerCyrannian: oho
21:13.40Technobliteratory u no tell me
21:14.10OluapPlayerI'm pretty sre it's in their page
21:14.15Technobliteratorfirst match of TI3, Dota 2 crashes for everyone
21:14.16OluapPlayerif it's not then screw it hur
21:14.16Technobliteratorgg volvo
21:14.49Wormylol Cyr
21:15.02Technobliterator&nope it's not
21:15.27OluapPlayerWell you know it now hur
21:15.56Technobliteratordum other people won't
21:16.09TechnobliteratorI'll add it under Physiology
21:16.43TechnobliteratorWormy: what advantages are there of being silicon based?
21:17.33ImperiosThe Fyrvrtha are siliconic as well
21:17.33TybusenYou can use the bodies of the dead to make computers
21:17.46Technobliteratoraside from that
21:17.58ImperiosI should make a Radeon threaten a Fyrvrtha to make breast implants out of his body
21:18.02TybusenYou can use the bodies of the dead to make solar panels :u
21:18.04ImperiosIn one of my stories
21:18.06OluapPlayerpçpç
21:18.10OluapPlayerolol even
21:18.32ImperiosWell, at the other hand
21:18.36ImperiosYou can't make pencils out of them
21:18.45TybusenWhy would a Radeon want breast implants
21:18.56ImperiosThey may sell them to Artharons
21:18.58ImperiosOr Solarites
21:19.27OluapPlayerBecause http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NaughtyNuns
21:19.31ImperiosAnd hey, not every Radeon is a super-collectivist fundie
21:20.59ImperiosI dislike the "planet of hats" trope greatly
21:21.04ImperiosWell I do use it
21:21.34Cyrannianhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFGAJ00CIAICsfE.jpg:large
21:22.00OluapPlayerhur
21:22.03Tybusen:U
21:22.13ImperiosBut instead of using it as a form of generalisation, I think of it as of an "ideal" that Radeons aspire to
21:22.20Imperios*a species
21:22.46ImperiosA Radeon Kalcedia is not something unbeliable
21:22.52ImperiosActually
21:22.55ImperiosNo
21:22.56ImperiosIt is
21:23.00Tybusen"We'd really, really like you to be super-collectivist fundies, but if you're not cool with that, that's fine"
21:23.22ImperiosYeah more or less
21:23.25ImperiosIt's an ideal
21:23.59ImperiosAnd MOST Radeons are like that
21:24.10ImperiosBut there are also exceptions
21:24.20Tybusen"But just know if you're not cool with that, we'll force you to move to the Indoctrinate Collective"
21:24.26ImperiosThessina is going to be one of such exceptions, he's not like the other Radeons
21:24.29OluapPlayerBaptarion - NO
21:25.18Imperios*she
21:25.49TybusenI was about to say that Thessina is one of the most unmanly names ever
21:26.01ImperiosDuh
21:26.15TybusenIt's up there right behind "Justin Bieber"
21:27.31Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Legacy/The_Star_Dragons#Alien_World.2C_Familiar_Feeling I dedicate this chapter as a "glad Oluap did not die on the operating table from a guy whos' only experience at the job was Surgeon SImulator"
21:27.36WormyXho: Astra - Ouroboros http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tKkBsb3Xkg
21:27.51Xhodat name
21:28.13Cyrannianhttp://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2013/07/24/royal-baby-memes_2.jpg
21:28.28ImperiosWhich is one of the reasons she is technically not a Divinarium citizen
21:28.29OluapPlayerMonet: my god
21:28.33Wormytrolol
21:29.24ImperiosThose Radeons who do not fit in the community *do* imigrate
21:29.39ImperiosInto other Commonwealth states
21:29.47MonetOluapPlayer: That was mean I know.
21:29.49OluapPlayerGeltastra - i accept imigrants too
21:29.54ImperiosWhich makes me wonder what would a common Radeon stereotype be like
21:30.06ImperiosIt might as well be the *opposite* of the Radeon ideal
21:30.25Tybusen"The Neighboorhood Association regrets to inform you that you did not reach your zealousness quota for the month and you will be forced to relocate to the Brood of War"
21:30.36ImperiosMore or less hur
21:31.02TybusenIn the TIAF, Radeons are stereotyped as a bunch of fundies
21:31.34TybusenThink of it like the stereotype of colonial-era Spaniards
21:31.38ImperiosThey are fundie nerds
21:31.43ImperiosIf there is such thing as a fundie nerd
21:31.49Imperios*such a thing
21:32.20OluapPlayerIf you want a Radeon to not behave properly you just need to give me partial control over it hur. I got a short-tempered scientist, a demonic witch and a cybernetic monster
21:34.20OluapPlayerCyrannian: I've seen Sola Naberrie's new model and all I can say is: dat hat
21:34.37CyrannianAye
21:34.43MonetI spotted dat hat first U dum
21:34.44CyrannianDino made it. I did ask for posh
21:35.05OluapPlayeri dun care I wus at the butcher
21:35.20MonetSola's hat is what drive me t ocoin the word "Dinohat"
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21:36.02Tek0516Hurray,I can get connection!
21:36.11ImperiosI wouldn't say that Geltastra defies Radeon stereotypes THAT much
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21:37.25OluapPlayerOther than being the Radeon equivalent of the anti-christ hur
21:37.48MonetHehehe
21:42.26OluapPlayerI'm going home now. bai
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21:43.50Sporeraptorhi
21:45.33Imperiosgah
21:45.43ImperiosIs there any short way in English to say "his or her"
21:46.37Aeono
21:46.44Aeonot correctly
21:46.56Aeooften you'd say "their" but that's not actually correct
21:47.01Angrydroid^
21:50.25MonetMost people use 'their' anyway
21:55.38MonetEnglish evolves.
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22:16.16ImpyDroidHi
22:16.22Sporeraptorhi
22:38.24CyrannianWormy: http://www.celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/fic_orionsarm.php - Do you have any of these installed?
22:39.07Wormyaye, I do
22:39.16WormyI have lots of Star Trek installed as well
22:39.29CyrannianI might install a few
22:43.08ImpyDroidHmm
22:45.16ImpyDroidXho: You're half-Indian, is your skin colour like this http://images4.fanpop.com/image/polls/639000/639578_1297446750983_full.jpg
22:45.22ImpyDroidThe guy on the left
22:45.47ImpyDroidThe guy on the right = Oluap hur
22:45.48XhoI suppose so
22:45.54XhoMy skin is practically yellow
22:46.33ImpyDroidIn Russian, "yellow" is how Asians are called sometimes
22:46.51Xhooh deer
22:50.31Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Legacy/Future%27s_Beginning#Chapter_Nine_-_Turn_of_Events - c
22:53.23ImpyDroidnoic
22:58.14CyrannianDid anyone ever play Orbiter?
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22:58.32Liquid_InkHello all!
22:58.48Cyranniango dai
22:58.54CyrannianI mean hello.
22:59.17Liquid_InkWaptor, what do Hegemony ships look like?
23:01.38Liquid_InkAnd Wormy, what kind of LGBT rights does the DCP have?
23:02.20CyrannianI was talking to Ghelae about it. He thinks that the Hegemony would use the same ships as empires about 1000 years into the Prime universe's future. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:ApolloClass.png http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:FutureBattleshipImperial.png
23:02.25CyrannianLike those two
23:03.34Liquid_InkOkay then. I was more under the impression they would use URC ships but coloured differently.
23:05.25CyrannianI suppose when I get around to making the page, there will be some URC/Imperial ships with different colours. I'd presume they also use ships found in other civilisations, as it isn't Cyrannian-exclusive.
23:07.07XhoDammit where's my phone
23:10.10Liquid_InkXho, I based the Mirror Lequian's foreign relations off typical Xhodocto attitude: spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Lequian_Nether_Union#Foreign_Relations
23:10.26Liquid_Inkhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Lequian_Nether_Union#Foreign_Relations
23:10.42Xhohur
23:16.35ImpyDroidCyrannian: Here's some basic explanation of the Divinarium's view of the New Republic in case you write about the Divinarium in the
23:17.59ImpyDroidBasically the Divinarium will maintain some basic relationships with it, probably sending ambassadors to each other, but their relationships won't go beyond that
23:18.28Liquid_InkThey don't want to harm relations with the Empire?
23:18.32ImpyDroidRadeons favour order and the Empire is a more efficient state in mind
23:18.39ImpyDroidYes and that too
23:18.59ImpyDroidThough the Divinarium does respect the Republic to a degree because of WoE
23:19.27ImpyDroidBesides the majority of Cyrannian Radeons are Imperial
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