IRC log for #sporewiki on 20130801

00:03.28Needles_10HELLO?!
00:04.48MonetI gave my Dwarven mayor some lovely engravings in his home.
00:04.52Monetoffice, rather
00:05.00MonetWho wants to know waht the engravings are of?
00:05.09MonetOr wh owould like to know
00:05.13Needles_10Me
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00:06.13LawfulInsaneHello.
00:06.34MonetWell there's one of a point-cut gem, several renditions of tables and one rendition of a leech
00:07.00MonetIt's an exceptionally-carved leech mind you
00:07.46Needles_10Hehey
00:08.16Needles_10Leeches...Did you know that phlebotomy was actually a helpful treatment for Hemochromatosis?
00:08.34MonetNo
00:08.41MonetApparently a point-cut gem is the town symbol.
00:10.10Needles_10Huh
00:10.20Needles_10What game is this, by the way
00:11.28MonetDwarf Fortress
00:11.52Needles_10Ahhhhh
00:11.56Needles_10Is it good?
00:15.34MonetIt's gripping, it can be complicated though
00:18.34Needles_10Hmm. I'm playing KSP, by the way. I'm building a rocket meant to launch a satellite into Minmusian orbit.
00:24.38LawfulInsanei see.
00:24.46LawfulInsane~test
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00:27.44Needles_10~portal
00:27.44infobotmethinks portal is the best game evar.
00:27.52Needles_10It's true!
00:29.03LawfulInsaney
00:43.12Needles_10wat
00:45.26LawfulInsaney it best game
00:48.47MonetIncoming
00:49.58LawfulInsanewhat
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01:03.04The_RandomnessHello everyone
01:03.23Aeohi
01:04.13LawfulInsaneMay a thousand Dvotties rest on your shoulders
01:05.37The_RandomnessAbandon chat!
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01:34.21Needles_10ReCaptcha of the Day: and cloceeds
01:34.23Needles_10Hello!
01:34.29OfficerJackalHello!
01:34.30Needles_10Damn inactive!
01:34.35Needles_10Oh, hi
01:34.51OfficerJackalNoep, just actively inactive. XD
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02:23.10Needles_10ERMHERD
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04:55.44OfficerJackalHello!
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05:56.50JepardiHi
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06:29.59LawfulInsaneHello.
06:30.23LawfulInsaneI can't beleive i misspelled the captcha on purpose and the server still let me in.
06:34.25Aeohu
06:34.53OfficerJackalYeah, that happens sometimes.
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07:11.13OfficerJackalHey!
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08:15.34OfficerJackalHello!
08:16.38Liquid_InkHowdy
08:17.40LawfulInsaneHi
08:18.53Liquid_InkHello.
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08:30.15OfficerJackalWelcome back!
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09:19.03Wormy<PROTECTED>
09:23.38WormyLiquid_Ink I had another nightmare
09:24.33WormyThis time, I had sleep paralysis and a shadowy figure was stood over me
09:24.47Liquid_InkHoly shit man
09:24.56Liquid_InkYou're being stalked by the Slenderman.
09:25.20Liquid_InkOr the Elachi.
09:25.31Liquid_InkOr both, which is a reasonable assumption.
09:25.31WormyOh damn
09:25.47Liquid_InkSpeaking of which, I've been needing to ask you.
09:26.16WormyElachi could be te first two nights, Slenderman this morning
09:26.22WormyOkay
09:26.50Liquid_InkA tupla is born from the thoughts and beliefs of others, no?
09:27.11WormyYes
09:27.37Liquid_InkCan a two tulpas exist from eachothers thoughts and beliefs?
09:27.49WormyOr one's self
09:28.16WormyI think so
09:28.54Liquid_InkI was going to make my Q expies a race of Tuplas.
09:29.31Liquid_InkBut since they spent a couple billion years completely unknown to reality, I figured I needed some way to sustain themselves without mortal belief in them.
09:30.37WormyI'm not sure if tulpas can exist outiside te mind
09:31.18Liquid_InkI was under the impression they could.
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09:32.05WormyThey are ideas which manifest themselves into the subcosciousness of oneself and others.  They appear to achieve magic when tey are actually illusions
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09:34.07Liquid_InkYou missed nothing.
09:34.21Wormy_It takes a mind to create them and a stronger mind to eliminate them
09:49.18ImpyDroidHi
09:57.17Liquid_InkHello.
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10:26.20Wormy_byw
10:26.32Liquid_InkBye!
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10:54.18ImpyDroidHi
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11:03.54MonetA few people on ANdroid I see
11:08.26MonetMy eyes have  just been soiled by Personally I don't get this militant preference over which smartphone/tablet OS is better.
11:09.06MonetIt's not like Mac and PC where the hardware itself is markedly different...right?
11:09.52MonetOr am I being ignorant?
11:20.55Technobliteratornot so much ignorant, as not understanding the market
11:21.16Technobliteratorthe hardware may not appear markedly different, but it is
11:21.29Technobliteratormore importantly though, the software is very different
11:21.47MonetSo it's people argiong over software for the most part?
11:22.14Technobliteratoreh
11:22.25Technobliteratormore arguing over how the company does things
11:22.54Technobliteratorapple arguments: "omg apple products are best stfu fandroids our product is easiest to use!!!"
11:23.12MonetUrgh, one reason I hate corporate rivalry
11:23.24Technobliteratorandroid arguments: "stfu apple scum google makes android for free and are the best company!!!"
11:23.59TechnobliteratorI don't like the rivalries at all, I just get whichever product suits me best
11:25.11MonetI guess it's human nature to see outsiders of your tribe as threats. Corporate preference is merely another extension
11:25.42Technobliteratorpretty much
11:26.44MonetCrude as his comment was, Warren Vidic was right.
11:28.03Monet1000 years of progress and HUmannity still clings on to ancient mindsets
11:30.38MonetJUst because someone's an arrogent prick doesn't mean they're completely blind.
11:31.14MonetTheir vision can be clouded sure, but depending on the opinion they can be right on the money.
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11:43.34Aeohi
11:43.34MonetHello
11:43.42Aeonoo person
11:43.57HeadcrusherAlright, so Impy's around
11:44.04AeoWho r u?
11:44.12AeoNot a noo person...
11:45.58HeadcrusherI'm the person who tends to bad-mouth you, but I won't be doing so this time, so just mind your own business.
11:46.59MonetHm?
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11:47.31Headcrusherthat was to 'natrix
11:47.33ImperiosHi Mon
11:47.38HeadcrusherGreetings Impy
11:49.05Dollar17hmm...
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11:56.20Sporeraptorhi
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11:56.59Technobliterator~seen Irskaad
11:57.05infobotirskaad <~d@a95-94-201-175.cpe.netcabo.pt> was last seen on IRC in channel #cyrannus, 53d 14h 40m 45s ago, saying: 'Lol, ask LotG about it'.
11:57.05Technobliteratordum no infobot
11:57.08Technobliteratoroh wait
11:57.48Monethttp://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/Sketchdump-Imperial-Attire-389904649 I dun some drawings
11:58.19MonetAnyone have a favourite design?
11:59.34Dollar17~seen Xho
11:59.35infobotxho <02de6bc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.222.107.197> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 13h 56m 49s ago, saying: 'Like a cockroach'.
11:59.39Dollar17~seen Wormy
11:59.39infobotwormy <5284e40a@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.82.132.228.10> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 2h 27m 34s ago, saying: 'They are ideas which manifest themselves into the subcosciousness of oneself and others.  They appear to achieve magic when tey are actually illusions'.
11:59.44Dollar17~seen Ghelae
11:59.45infobotghelae <56a7277f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.167.39.127> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 20h 19m 11s ago, saying: 'Hello.'.
12:10.32ImperiosMonet: The bottom right one
12:10.43Dollar17if anyone needs to talk to me I'll be at #R17zone and/or #illarion
12:10.43ImperiosTrenchcoats are gud
12:11.09Dollar17and do notify me if Ghelae and/or Wormy appear
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12:16.26Hachi_Hai
12:16.35MonetHi
12:16.59Hachi_Monet: Can't help but think that Alucard may be able to sneak into the Imperial crowd if he wanted with his usual attire
12:17.09ImperiosYa
12:17.19Sporeraptorhi
12:17.23MonetLol it's very likely
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12:17.47Needles_10ReCaptcha of the Day; band squenz
12:17.54Needles_10Hello all!
12:18.00Hachi_Although then again I doubt there are vampires in the Imperium
12:18.06Needles_10??????
12:18.30Sporeraptorhi
12:20.12Needles_10What
12:20.17Needles_10What's new*
12:20.41MonetNo vampires but with his outfit and posh accent the only thing that would make hi mlook odd is that creepy smile of his.
12:21.18Hachi_hur a Draconis' smile on a human
12:23.42Hachi_My favourite activity in ME2 at the moment is probing for some reason
12:23.59Hachi_I came across a Blood Pack base while doing a probing routine
12:24.13Hachi_I went down and it was just covered in fog
12:26.04Hachi_Then asplodey bugs came and my reaction was similar to what you'd get if Nu was locked in a room full of Hachis
12:30.29ImperiosI like the Normandy's engineers
12:30.35ImperiosEngineer Hachi & Engineer Venoriel
12:30.41Hachi_Yus hur]
12:31.34ImperiosAnd speaking of BioWare
12:31.38Hachi_Engineer Hachi - Nothin to complain about, but I wish the arra--    Engineer Venoriel - Quiet, heretical vermin. You're complaining.
12:31.50ImperiosIs it true that it bought a couple of Warhammer 40k licenses?
12:32.00Hachi_I think it may have done, not sure
12:32.14ImperiosImagine a BioWare Warhammer 40k
12:32.42ImperiosRPG
12:33.08Hachi_I can't imagine they'd do better than Relic
12:33.11ImperiosSpace Marine romance
12:33.28Hachi_Imperios: Space Marines are gay for each other anyway
12:33.34Imperioshur lol
12:33.50Needles_10https://soundcloud.com/the-carbon-maestro/ksp-main-menu-theme-cover <<< Me gusta this cover
12:33.57ImperiosLol Playground people are funny
12:34.49Imperios"BioWare Warhammer 40k RPG: Sisters of Battle will be lesbian, you will form a group made of Necrons, Eldar, Orcs and Tau, while the main boss will be the Warp Reaper. And, yes, Tyranids will be romanceable."
12:35.01Hachi_olol
12:35.24ImperiosGreat Unclean One romance ftw
12:36.05Needles_10Ewewewe
12:36.20Hachi_I'd rather romance a Kroot
12:36.26Needles_10I'd rather not
12:36.32Needles_10anything
12:36.40Imperioshttp://img.playground.ru/images/3/2/40k__berserker_by_wibblethefish-d4yx4u6.jpg
12:36.54Hachi_I watch that guy on DA
12:37.05Hachi_He does quite a bit of Warhammer stuff
12:37.10Needles_10Hur...
12:37.24Needles_10All settings: "KILL MAIM BURN"
12:37.55Hachi_http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/318/6/3/iaeih__seems_legit_by_wibblethefish-d5l1cgl.jpg
12:37.56Needles_10Kirk: Set phasers to--
12:38.06Needles_10Berserker: KILL MAIM BURN
12:39.11Hachi_http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/195/2/8/iaeih__trust_issues_by_wibblethefish-d57938y.jpg This made me giggle
12:40.09Needles_10olol
12:41.42Hachi_http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/101/a/4/40k__fulgrim_can__t_even_handle_me_right_now_by_wibblethefish-d4vst7t.jpg tru
12:42.40Hachi_What's really funny is that he's called Matt Ward irl and he said on one of his videos that people often get confused
12:45.21Needles_10I dun geddit
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12:45.45Hachi_Matt Ward is a very hated and disrespected name in the Warhammer 40K community
12:45.50Hachi_He just so happens to have the same name as him hur
12:46.04Hachi_Matt Ward being the guy who fantasizes over Ultramarines
12:46.19Hachi_And wrote over-exaggerations of them into the Space Marine codex
12:48.33Hachi_https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533887_601889649851861_463588224_n.jpg
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12:50.17GhelaeHello.
12:55.40ImperiosYa
12:55.43Needles_10Ghello!
12:56.24Needles_10How are you, Ghelae
12:57.06Needles_10Well?
12:58.58GhelaeI'm okay; how about you?
13:06.37Needles_10Very well, thank you
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13:06.59Needles_10yo*
13:07.53MonetHi
13:07.58TekDroidHi
13:08.37GhelaeHello.
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13:27.27Needles_10...,,,...
13:27.42Needles_10•••---•••
13:27.47Needles_10I don't know
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13:38.41Dollar17greetings Ghelae
13:38.48GhelaeHello.
13:41.11NtellectDollae.
13:41.15NtellectSeriously.
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14:14.06Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Legacy/The_Star_Dragons#Small_People.2C_Big_Universe too bad Oluap's not here to see this
14:39.43AeoMonet: I think you'd actually like the next Aeoneonatrix member race. They're pro-tradition types with a not-very-materialist culture, they enjoy the simple things in life.
14:48.09MonetWe'll see
14:53.41Hachi_I did not sympathize for Jack at all on her loyalty mission
14:53.49Hachi_She was a moany emo bitch
14:54.26Technobliteratormeh
14:54.28TechnobliteratorI just let her die
14:55.34Hachi_I don't like her, I sorta regret doing her loyalty mission although I heard she's somewhat important in ME3
14:57.20Hachi_Blast, I lost Jack's loyalty via sticking up for Miranda
14:59.16Technobliteratorno
14:59.34TechnobliteratorI killed her in ME2 and it made no difference to ME3
14:59.44Hachi_rite
15:01.15ImperiosActually it does
15:01.20ImperiosShe is quite an important character in ME3
15:01.28ImperiosJack is
15:01.45Technobliteratorhardly
15:01.49TechnobliteratorI never noticed she was gone
15:02.17ImperiosRemember the Biotic Academy?
15:02.25Technobliteratorno hur
15:05.01Hachi_Right, I did everybody's loyalty missions (except Zaeed's and Kasumi's since the DLC download for Zaeed failed and I can't afford Kasumi) with only Jack not having loyalty, so shall I proceed to the Derelict Reaper?
15:06.22Technobliteratoris your ship fully upgraded?
15:07.10Hachi_Yes
15:07.25Technobliteratorcheck the guides firs
15:07.26Technobliteratort
15:07.28Technobliteratorthen go aheasd
15:07.31Technobliterator*go ahead
15:07.36Aeohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Not_Your_World_Anymore#The_Protesters TekDroid Sporeraptor Hachi_ Thoughts?
15:07.42Hachi_The guides?
15:07.47Technobliteratoronline guides
15:07.50Technobliteratorwhich tell you where to snd who
15:07.53Technobliteratorsend*
15:08.00Hachi_rite
15:09.27MonetMeh, I used my own sense of judgement. It felt more like my game
15:09.36MonetALso guides spoil any surprises
15:10.06SporeraptorAeo: I guess they are in fact mites the Aenenatrix tamper with :P
15:10.21AeoWell, sort of
15:10.48Technobliteratorthere are hardly any surprises
15:13.51SporeraptorAeo: What would happen if they say they don't want to join ?
15:32.34Hachi_test
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15:45.20TekDroidHi
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16:48.01CyrannianHello!
16:48.35OfficerJackalHey!
16:50.38TheBuilderHi
16:51.52ImperiosHi Cyra
16:52.19CyrannianHello
17:09.56Hachi_From what I have gathered, Tali and Jack are gonna die
17:18.58ImperiosHm
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17:19.08ImperiosHow could I call a Radeon without psychic abilities
17:19.08dino__hellow!
17:19.12ImperiosKinda like Pariahs in 40k
17:19.28Hachi_Aberrant
17:19.41Hachi_Or Deviants
17:20.23dino__Radeonless
17:20.29ImperiosDur
17:22.00dino__@Cyrannian: You indeed surprised me by making Apaltar a president (-see page of him trivia section) :P
17:22.06dino__dur?
17:22.09dino__what does that mean?
17:25.19dino__oh br
17:25.30dino__b
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17:35.55ImperiosHi Mon
17:36.04ImperiosCyrannian: Shall one of us make a Republic representative to the NTA?
17:36.20MonetHi
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17:37.41Imperios*Should
17:43.18MonetI'm thikning of supporting these alien protestors in Not Your World Anymore.
17:44.29MonetOn a practical level, for them: These random aliens how up and say "hey would you like to be part of our massive community?". Sounds dubious to me.
17:44.51TekDroidI secomd that.
17:44.55TekDroid*second
17:45.08TekDroidEspecially once an alien religion is brought in
17:45.28MonetWhoo yeah. hehehe. I wonder how Cleanserism would g odown.
17:45.29TekDroidNo offence, of course.
17:46.52TekDroidIt'd be like aliens arriving at Eart and telling everyome to convert to their belief system
17:46.56MonetDraconis would have lost respect from the Aeons' policy. At least they would make an effort to soften the big news by say...creating a bond of familiarity.
17:47.15TekDroidAnd a strong belief too.
17:48.24MonetPLus the Imperium's more lax towards religion.
17:48.29TekDroidOn the other hand, refusal can never work in their favour
17:49.09TekDroidFarengeto is atheist, but reasonable freedoms of religion
17:49.29TekDroidThey also have a stromg policy of no intentional first contact
17:49.42TekDroidWell, of pre-warp empires
17:50.01ImperiosMonet: >These random aliens how up and say "hey would you like to be part of our massive community?". Sounds dubious to me.
17:50.11Imperios...isn't that what the Imperium does?
17:50.35MonetNo I said. The Imperium first finds ways to gain the aliens' trust before they pop the question.
17:50.53ImperiosMakes sense
17:51.00ImperiosSo they start by forming trade routes etc
17:51.22ImperiosCultural domination before political domination
17:51.25MonetTrade routes, diplomaic chanels, cultural exchinge etc.
17:51.35MonetRight on the nose Impy
17:52.47MonetTIme is an underestimated tool in plitics
17:53.06Hachi_Right, I assigned Garrus to the Fire Team and Legion as the Specialist. Who should I bring with me?
17:53.43MonetFor the first stage I don't think it matters
17:53.47Imperiosya
17:54.04dino__back
17:54.24Hachi_But doesn't the team you pick now stay with you throughout the rest of the mission?
17:54.31MonetNope
17:55.04dino__Monet!
17:55.06dino__Hello
17:55.10MonetHi
17:56.52MonetLike I was saying, time can be an important tool in politics and time is something the Draconis have learned to spend wisely
17:58.27dino__yeah time is something  you need, the more time the more things you get done
17:58.32TekDroidMy fictio spent 20-30 years turning species who just ended a war into a confederation.
17:58.55TekDroidAided by a coup or two, but Ihimk the point's clesr
17:58.59TekDroid*clear
18:00.08CyrannianWhoops, I was away and forgot to mention it.
18:01.13MonetThe problem with massive social projects these days is they often take longer to accomplish than the politician's term. And since the politician wants to get reelcted such a project would look like a "waste of time" on an electoral iewpoint since his term would end before there are any markable results.
18:03.21ImperiosHachi_: You change it periodically
18:06.16Imperios[[]]
18:06.17morgothBotPyImperios meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
18:06.51Monetbbs
18:14.00dino__nice new updates to the Dominon story, seems Kithwortho has a powerful time weapon :d
18:19.35dino__and that AI seems to e VERY powerful
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18:20.24TheBuilderHi
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18:24.19Cyranniandino__: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/0/0c/RamboSpaceDock.png - Here you go!
18:26.38dino__Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:26.45dino__You rock :D
18:27.27Cyrannian~give dino__ a cookie
18:27.27infobotACTION gives dino__ a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up.
18:31.08dino__oh yummie cookies!
18:31.50Cyrannianhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/1/12/Mou%27Cyran.png - This is Mou'Cyran, which will eventually become the capital of the New Republic
18:32.25dino__oh that looks geat
18:32.31dino__and those flags! How did you make that?
18:33.06dino__oh awesome central building, is it build with gold?
18:33.08CyrannianI used the Embassy which can be found in the Object section
18:33.10dino__Creckel gold?
18:33.48CyrannianPerhaps it is made with Creckel gold, that would be cool
18:36.11dino__look cool as a city, nice buildings and towers. Very peaceful as well
18:36.37CyrannianI think you can see the Rambo Embassy in the background of that picture as well
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18:41.13dino__oh yeah! In th eright side corner between the towers!
18:41.15dino__Hello Xho!
18:41.34dino__i didn't knew Kithwortho had such powerful weapons, nor that an AI was so powerful and wise. Coolio!
18:41.43XhoKithworto*
18:41.47Xhoy name so hard to spell
18:42.24XhoAlthough technically in Dutch Kithworto is sort of the right pronunciation so i'll give you that
18:42.37ImperiosBecause spelling such a complex word is not kithworth it
18:42.49Xhodum eh
18:42.53Imperios*spelling such a complex word properly
18:43.03Cyrannian~lick Xho
18:43.03infobotACTION licks Xho *SHLUUURRRRPPP*
18:43.10ImperiosCyrannian: seen my message?
18:43.21CyrannianNo
18:43.35XhoKithworto is an easy Kicathian name
18:43.37XhoKitunáromnarocho'ón isn't
18:44.05dino__@Xho: Srry!
18:44.06Imperios>[21:35] <Imperios> Cyrannian: Should one of us make a Republic representative to the NTA?
18:44.23dino__@Xho: For me it is a bit difficult to pronounce! :P
18:44.30CyrannianYou can if you wish, or you can wait for me to eventually make it
18:44.38dino__oh brb
18:45.00Xhodino__: If you pronounce it in Dutch it's almost right hur
18:45.00Imperioshttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/f/f4/RadeonCastes.png Three Mouseketeers
18:45.56Xhoinb4 Hachi all over the middle one
18:48.56MonetHello all
18:49.05Imperioshi
18:53.02Hachi_AwayI'm not much in the mood for Mass Effect anymore
18:53.04Hachi_AwayNot in the mood for much else at that
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18:53.17MonetHi
18:53.19WormyHello
18:53.28WormyBeen rock scrambling all day
18:53.37MonetHachi_Away: Something getting you down?
18:53.59Hachi_AwayThe family dog's going on Monday/Tuesday
18:54.26ImperiosOw
18:54.31ImperiosThat must be painful
18:55.03Hachi_AwayShe's been around longer than any of the other dogs we had/have
18:56.07MonetAww.
18:56.35Hachi_AwayI go and have dinner and I get news that the dog's getting sent on her way early next week
18:57.47ImperiosSo you had several dogs?
18:58.21MonetHAchi's head at least three
18:58.34ImperiosOuch
18:58.42ImperiosThat's a lot
18:58.43Imperios*Wow
18:59.02Hachi_AwayOne was around before I was born and he died when I was a early age, then we adopted our eldest dog currently at a young age then just under two years ago we adopted two puppies
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18:59.28TheBuilderHello
19:01.14TheBuilderI just finished reading the lastest changes in TM
19:01.15TheBuilderIt was fantastic!
19:01.43Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Divinarium/Society Started the pagwe
19:01.46ImperiosIs it good so far?
19:02.00WormyI have two dogs.  I know the pain.  My eldest dog had a slipped disc in his back and the vet nearly put him down, but we made him rest in a cage and after a few months recovted almost complete
19:02.04Wormyyly
19:03.02ImperiosI had one dog
19:03.59TheBuilderI had twelve
19:04.14TheBuilderAnd I make emphasis in had
19:04.20dino__<PROTECTED>
19:05.03WormyLet me guess...  Puppies, or a family owned dfog breeding business?
19:05.49Monet]Imperois: Looking interersting so far
19:06.28TheBuilderWormy: puppies foun into a bag in a river
19:06.37TheBuilder*found
19:08.27Hachi_AwayI feel like I'm going to be sick
19:08.29Hachi_AwayBe back later
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19:08.51CyrannianPoor Hachi
19:10.23XhoThe lack of Oluap
19:10.25Xhotis bad
19:10.26MonetI'll write a short story, it might cheer him up.
19:10.46ImperiosYeah, I agree
19:16.48dino__oh poor Hachi
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19:31.15OfficerJackalHello!
19:31.24TekDroidHey
19:32.31Sporeraptorhi
19:56.03MonetWriting about THeians they feel so...alien
19:56.38MonetNot just biologically but also socially.
19:59.16MonetWearing their nanosuits only, it's possible they could feel naked
19:59.30MonetBut in truth, they really don't care.
20:00.50ImperiosComing up with alien psychologies is fun
20:01.28Wormy^
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20:07.20darkwarrior101hi
20:11.50dino__Wormy, what is the link to the DCP civil war?
20:12.56Cyrannian[[Fiction:Revolution of the Warlords]]
20:12.57morgothBotPyCyrannian meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Revolution_of_the_Warlords
20:15.29WormyHorus Heresey hur
20:17.00dino__thanks!
20:17.48dino__old itmes: D
20:17.55dino__Upadting king Huttelett wh oaided the DCP once
20:18.22CyrannianIndeed, that was a fun war
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20:19.06Hachi_Hello.
20:19.08WormyAye
20:19.26WormyWelcome back.
20:20.27dino__hello hachi
20:20.29dino__being better now?
20:20.29MonetHi mate.
20:21.39Hachi_Honestly, no. But I figured I couldn't just abandon here.
20:22.43WormyI gouged deep scratches in my thumbnail today when I lost footing on a rock
20:23.00WormyBloody hurts
20:23.18MonetHachi_: Aww, well, give me a few minutes and I'll upload something that I hope'll cheer you up
20:23.34WormyWould anyone kiss it better lol
20:28.11XhoMakes me wonder what Kicathian psychology is like
20:28.17XhoWell I know what it's like
20:28.26XhoIt's not a very hard psychology
20:29.06CyrannianKissing Wormy's thumb made you think of Kicathian psychology?
20:29.34WormyCephalodan mentality os veryn
20:29.39Wormya
20:29.46Wormyalien
20:29.56XhoWell
20:29.59XhoI just came back
20:29.59WormyLol Cyrannian
20:30.43dino__@Hachi, hope you get better soon
20:30.53Hachi_Thanks Dino, it means a lot
20:32.20XhoHachi_: http://www4.theladbible.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_photo/public/teaserrrr.png Kalcedia and the Agents
20:32.44Hachi_ohgodlol
20:33.22Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Legacy/The_Star_Dragons#Coffee_and_Biscuits_Anyone.3F New chapter, Hope this cheers you up Hachi_
20:33.33dino__oh!
20:34.09WormyAs a dog owner I do feel saddened by this, you have my condelences
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20:43.39WormyBack on my PC tomorrow, so my posts should look more tidy
20:44.19GhelaeHello.
20:44.22MonetHello
20:44.28MonetWormy: You've been okay so fart
20:44.31Monetfar*
20:45.07Wormyolol
20:45.17Wormyhi
20:45.37ImperiosHachi_: Better now?
20:45.53Hachi_A little, Monet's Star Dragons chapter was cool
20:45.59Hachi_And amusing
20:46.01ImperiosYeah
20:46.14ImperiosHope you'll get better
20:46.31Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Divinarium/Society Started a new page
20:46.35ImperiosWhat do you think so far?\
20:51.23MonetHachi_: I had a bit of fun writing the bist about Teremva thinking of TYraz and his madness
20:55.01Hachi_I saw, it was a good touch
20:58.07MonetI can see how you can write such vivid descriptions.
20:59.07GhelaeBye!
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21:00.37dino__bye ghel
21:00.56Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kicath#Psychology Done Kicathian psychology
21:03.14MonetDraconis - ANd I thought we were elitist
21:05.11XhoThe psychology has changed in Borealis though
21:05.18XhoKicath are more open to races in Borealis
21:05.28XhoMainly because the PCA won't really stand for Kicathian racism
21:07.32MonetDraconis - Oh sure give us all the assholes.
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21:08.23XhoThe Kicath do not find Zoles, Zazane, Draconis, Grimbolsaurians, Libertus, Mahanayans as weaker races
21:09.38XhoThey have some admiration for Niaka mentality though
21:09.46MonetThose wh ohave not proved to be resolute have proved to be strong physically. Or both
21:10.21XhoIf their mentality can impress a Kicath they won't find you to be a liability
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21:10.31AdmiralPandahello all
21:10.36XhoIn respect they find Hachi to be a complete blight upon Kicathian philosophy
21:10.55XhoMainly because of Hachi's hypersexuality
21:10.55AdmiralPandawell that was an interesting sentence to start the day
21:10.59XhoThe things the Kicath hate the most
21:11.00Xhohur
21:11.47XhoIf it weren't for the fact that Hachi is credited as being a galactic hero, the Agents would have attempted to tear him apart ages ago
21:12.01AdmiralPandaso let me get this straight
21:12.10AdmiralPandaKicath - He tries to chase more tail than we do, so he's dum
21:12.23XhoThat's Kicath psychology
21:12.47XhoKicath are very "one partner or you're a complete slut" kind of race
21:12.56AdmiralPandalul, they're gonna hate Fordanta
21:13.11AdmiralPandaFordanta - what is this 'monogamy' you speak of?
21:13.24XhoKicath - ASASFADSFADSFADSAFD
21:13.30CyrannianThe lack of Oluap is beginning to unnerve me.
21:13.41XhoI'm not sure how the Kicath would view the Fordanta
21:13.46AdmiralPandaFordanta don't even do marriage, they just partner up when certain conditions are right
21:14.08XhoThey'd like their physical and mental capability but their philosophy concerning sexual relations would rustle their jimmies
21:14.11AdmiralPandalike useful physical traits, personality, e.t.c.
21:15.35XhoKicath have particular hatred for: Radeon, Asgord and Tahar
21:15.49AdmiralPandaasgord and tahar I can understand, but Radeon?
21:15.52XhoThe animosity between the Kicath and Radeon is dying down
21:16.12XhoThey find the Radeon to have an irrational mentality
21:16.27XhoKicath also have an irrational mentality when it comes to alien races
21:16.39XhoIt's like sandpaper on a cheese grater
21:17.21AdmiralPandaI'd hate to be the piece of cheese in between
21:18.16XhoThat's Hachi hur
21:18.56XhoThey find Hachi's hypersexuality and lack of rationalization so irritating that he probably be sold for firewood if he ever stepped on a Kicath planet
21:20.07AdmiralPandalol
21:20.47XhoThey probably get their mentality from the Vi'Navitum
21:20.55XhoMahanayans didn't inherit that trait however
21:22.02AdmiralPandathe only reason Hachi's sexuality isn't all that welcome in Fordan society is because it's directed at everything female, rather than just mates that will produce better offspring
21:22.10Xhohur
21:22.42XhoAttitudes like Hachi's, as well as sexism and chauvinism is received with a decapitating punch in Kicath society
21:22.49Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Ram%27Lendila - c
21:23.06AdmiralPandaHel'Bre'K probably has a good several hundred children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, but those all came from pairings with cool-headed, athletic women
21:23.19XhoIf you made a joke on Tau being weak for being a girl Tau will slam you against the wall so hard you'll explode
21:23.45AdmiralPandayou make that same joke with Sor, she shoots you with mindbullets
21:23.55XhoMINDBOOLETS
21:24.19Xho"Though some consider him a womaniser"
21:24.23AdmiralPandaFordanta don't have any significant sexual dimorphism, so there's never really been any form of esxism
21:24.25XhoKicath - instant hatez 4 u
21:25.29AdmiralPandaI wonder how the Kicath would respond to hearing that Fordanta use sex as a form of post-battle instant stress relief
21:25.59XhoKicath - y'all need jesus
21:26.23MonetDraconis - Why have sex when you can have a feast?
21:26.45XhoI'm not quite sure what Kicath do for entertainment
21:26.56XhoKicath are extremely stoic so there isn't much they do that's considered good fun
21:27.01AdmiralPandaoh it's not so much entertainment as actual necessary stress relief
21:27.09AdmiralPandaFordanta that don't relieve battle stress end badly
21:27.53XhoIt's considered to be a mental disorder in Kicathian society if you're fun loving
21:28.02XhoCase in point, Agent Psi
21:28.30AdmiralPandalol
21:28.51MonetDraconis are very social. Reading is probably one of the only things where no one bats an eyelid if you do it alone.
21:29.10AdmiralPandaFordanta enjoy work and activity, so for them work and fun is the same thing
21:29.17ImperiosRadeons are probably *over*social by our standards
21:29.44XhoThe closest thing Kicath have to entertainment I suppose is outing in bars
21:29.45ImperiosThey are an extremely collectivistic society, partially because of their innate telepathy
21:29.57XhoMain entertainment for Kicath is just general communication
21:29.57MonetThe only social things Draconis don't seem to approve of is orgies and binge drinking.
21:30.09dino__oh have to levae
21:30.10dino__bye
21:30.10dino__all
21:30.38MonetBye
21:31.18MonetSeriosuly, Draconis think you're wasting your life and your dignity if you drink purely to get absolutely twatted.
21:31.30Xhohur
21:31.36XhoPsi - ASDAHDASGDASHFDAS
21:31.40AdmiralPandahm
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21:31.45AdmiralPandaI just had a thought
21:31.52XhoThe most social Kicath get is their drinking games
21:31.54AdmiralPandaI don't think it's actually possible for a Fordanta to become drunk
21:31.58XhoWhich the goal is to actually get drunk
21:32.05XhoTo the point of unconsciousness
21:32.50XhoBecause Kicathian biology means their systems flush out alcohol or solutions similar to alcohol it's hard for them to get drunk
21:33.00XhoExpect said drinking games to go on for at least 5 hours
21:33.28XhoKicath have devised demoniacally powerful drinks in order for them to get drunk
21:33.55XhoWhich is why you'll probably not see Kicathian death-drinks in Draconis bars hur
21:34.10MonetUnless you somehow have a biological system that completely prevents the alcohol combining with the nerurons, you're gonna be suseptable to getting drunk
21:34.12AdmiralPandaspeaking of drinking games, I encountered one of the most crazy drinking games ever last night
21:34.15XhoUnless the Draconis is looking to either die or have a very rough night
21:34.29XhoWell
21:34.37XhoDraconis could probably take it better than most races
21:35.20XhoBut for the most part Kicath don't generally tend to drink much
21:35.58MonetWhen you combine massive bulk with powerful livers, it takes a good deal of alcohol to get drunk
21:36.18XhoKicath - dam ur livers
21:36.31MonetAs Wormy suggested, spirits like Green Fairy are social drinks for Draconis.
21:36.31AdmiralPandaEx Lover's Lovers drinking game: drink every time Voltaire says the word 'die'
21:36.50XhoOh god
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21:36.56AdmiralPandahe says that particular word twenty-four times in eight seconds
21:37.16TybusenHola
21:37.38XhoHola
21:37.44Xhoqué pasa
21:38.03XhoMonet: Ryncol hur
21:38.38TechnobliteratorJust an announcement; after tomorrow, I'll be away until the 18th, on another cruise.
21:38.45MonetSince Draconis dwarf Krogan I think they can take it
21:38.46Xhodam ur cruises
21:39.08XhoI don't know what Kicathian drinks would taste like
21:39.09Technobliteratordam u
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21:39.28XhoConsidering Kicath have a vastly different diet to that of other pseudo-reptilian aliens it would probably taste vile
21:39.53Liquid_InkWhat would taste vile?
21:40.01XhoKicathian-style drinks
21:40.26Hachi_Zazane have soemwhat banned alcohol in their culture, or at least frown upon it immensely
21:40.36Hachi_Though if you're an alien it's fine with precaution
21:40.46XhoMonet: http://www.thedrunkenmoogle.com/post/1204475764/ryncol-mass-effect-2-cocktail-ingredients-1-oz Oh dear
21:41.11AdmiralPandaFordanta basically just do mead
21:41.44Liquid_InkLeqians have a fine variety of beers, wines and vodkas.
21:41.56AdmiralPandaKaios drinks anything that won't kill him
21:42.11XhoMonet: That drink is somewhere between 50% - 70% alcohol
21:42.24AdmiralPandafun fact, last night at the concert, Voltaire had a full litre of rum on a table next to him, which he was drinking steadily throughout the performance
21:42.51ImperiosRadeons have that problem; they are innately teleempathic
21:43.15ImperiosA Radeon gets drunk = every single Radeon in 100m or something feels his hangover
21:43.29XhoKicath - lol
21:43.36MonetDraconis mostly make drinks for the taste, so they'll include stuff like honey
21:43.50ImperiosThat's why Radeons are so... moderate hur
21:43.58Hachi_Imperios: Makes me wonder if it has the same effect with procreation
21:44.07TybusenTIAF people just drink to have fun
21:44.09ImperiosHachi_ goddammit
21:44.16ImperiosWhy are you reading my mind
21:44.41XhoMonet: Kicath drinks will probably be barred then hur
21:44.55ImperiosMa'fest's - *sleeping in a quarter next to Iovera's* GAAAAH TYRAZ GO AWAY
21:44.57XhoIf a human drank a Kicath drink it would put them in hospital for a week vomiting consitently
21:45.04XhoAlcohol content and the taste
21:45.10Liquid_InkWow, every Radeon in a hundred metres shares an orgasm...
21:45.13Hachi_Iovera and Tyraz do it -> Ma'fest, Baptarion and every other Radeon feels every single moment in full detail
21:45.45Tybusenthe bang heard round the universe
21:45.59XhoProbable alcohol content of a Kicath drink is at least 75%
21:46.03ImperiosThus to prevent the entire species from going insane
21:46.10ImperiosRadeons became so stoic
21:46.46XhoStrongest Kicath drinks are close to 100%
21:46.55XhoProbably 96%
21:47.11TybusenImperios: But what happened all those times they needed to repopulate
21:47.40Imperios...and that's why the Radeons aren't the most populous species in the universe
21:48.16TybusenThat's probably why they have so many devastating wars
21:48.17MonetXho: So basically strongest kicath drinks are pure alcohol
21:48.23XhoPretty much
21:48.28Tybusensince losing a few Radeon is a lot
21:48.37XhoKicath are psychotic come to think of it
21:49.15MonetI'm gonna up and say Vi'Navitum heritage is probably the only thing that could possibly keep them alive after such drinks
21:49.23XhoIs probable
21:49.24ImperiosIt's not "in full detail"
21:49.35XhoKicath - progenitor biology bitches
21:49.39ImperiosThey just get the same emotions
21:49.44ImperiosDulled, but still
21:49.52XhoAlthough Kicath are becoming physically less endowed with each generation
21:50.20Liquid_InkThe Radeons really ought to invest in a few orgies to bring up their population.
21:50.54XhoAs you can imagine, Kicath drinking games with foreign races never end well
21:51.11TybusenI suppose it says something then when the Dysnomia Radeon are doing better than Prime Radeon in even one aspect
21:51.19XhoKicath never tend to drink the 75% + drinks though unless they are looking to get drunk
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21:52.20XhoKicath would probably mix it with some ingredients to give it some taste
21:52.23ImperiosThat's one of the reason Quendor felt REALLY bad when he came to Alkhuse
21:52.31XhoBut the taste I would liken it to would be nail varnish
21:53.13XhoKicath concept of taste is rather awful
21:53.55TybusenI'm thinking now that TIAF people's tolerance for alcohol must be pretty high since some of them can have drinking parties every other day
21:54.24XhoKicathian food would make most races heave due to the taste
21:54.46TybusenThey'd literally take all 99 bottles of beer off the wall and knock them down
21:55.06Liquid_InkIt seems Xhodocto food is much more bearable, what with souls tasting like grapejuice and lemons and all that.
21:55.40TybusenThat's a powerful statement right there
21:56.03Tybusenthen again, it's literal food for the gods, so...
21:56.09ImperiosRadeon souls taste like prosphoras
21:56.17ImperiosArtharon souls taste like sushi
21:56.27ImperiosTertanai souls taste like feta cheese
21:56.36MonetXho: They must find Draconis food wierd then
21:57.08XhoThey'd probably find it overpowering
21:57.41MonetThat's the other word I was thinking of
21:57.44TybusenKicath - This food is terrible! | Draconis Chef - B-but why? | Kicath - IT'S TOO FLAVORFUL
21:57.53TekDroidThe most common PIN in the world: 6969
21:57.53XhoIt's not that Kicathian tastebuds are overdeveloped, but they're not used to rich tastes considering their food tastes something along the lines of the smell of nail varnish as I said
21:59.10TekDroidOk, apparently I got the ranking wrong.
21:59.16MonetBasically say someone who lives off junk food ets something like lobster thermidor.
21:59.26XhoEventually Kicath could become accustomed to such flavours from Draconis food but it would take a lot of conditioning
22:00.16TybusenKicath - Alright... alright... you can do this. You can do this! *eats a piece of Draconis food* HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH
22:00.32Hachi_Zazane are adapted more to eating raw meat.
22:00.40Hachi_They find cooked food distateful
22:00.50Liquid_InkLequians love their cooked food.
22:00.53Hachi_As well as an evolutionary disadvantage if you rely on it
22:01.07TybusenTIAFians love their cooked and processed food
22:01.13Liquid_InkThey're only interested in very fine cuisine.
22:01.16XhoKicath food derives mainly from whatever planet they're on
22:01.19MonetDraconis - And that's why we have a massive empire
22:01.32XhoConsidering they have 350,000 + planets, there's a lot of food
22:01.42Liquid_InkWhich was produced in the Greater Zarni Empire and microwaved by the Lequian restaurant.
22:02.02TybusenTIAF people just eat a lot of food you'd typically find Americans eating
22:02.13TybusenMainly hamburgers and fattening stuff
22:02.50TekDroidI think many fictions' meals are basically Americans in space
22:02.58MonetI think this topic is the exception, if any to, Draconis being the brunt of "screw you elves", at least they're willing to share their fancy stuff.
22:03.37XhoI would liken the appearance of Kicathian food to look somewhat similar to Japanese food but spray painted silver and a huge manner of metallic colours
22:03.50XhoAnd tasting nowhere near as nice or smelling nowhere near as nice
22:03.51TybusenI wonder how many Fictionverse people still actually cook all their food and how many use replicators a la Star Trek
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22:04.08XhoKicath still cook their food properly
22:04.25MonetXho: So basically not only does food taste like nail varnish, it also looks covered in it?
22:04.30XhoPretty much
22:04.34TekDroidAnything pre-replicator is probaby forced to still cook
22:04.41Hachi_Zazane are generally very adaptive towards environmental aspects, inlcuding food. Their immune systems have been rendered very powerful due to their exposure and survival towards an uncountable number of plagues, diseases and infections.
22:04.44MonetDraconis - HOW CAN YOU EAT THAT CRAP!
22:04.56XhoKicath - progenitor biology.wav
22:05.02XhoActually i'm not quite sure
22:05.13ImpyDroidRadeons prefer eating plants probably
22:05.19TybusenReplicator is around Tier 4 if Starfleet had that tech
22:05.20Liquid_InkWimps.
22:05.33Hachi_This is where selective breeding comes into play; survivors of plagues and diseases gain stronger immune systems, with their children gaining immune systems even stronger than theirs
22:05.35XhoKicath probably have foods in their empire that tastes like Draconis food
22:05.52ImpyDroidThey might as well be able to sustain themselves on trees if necessary
22:05.55Hachi_Zazane are slowly breeding out weakness to illness and disease
22:06.04TekDroidBiochemistry compatibility is the biggest problem with the idea of alien food.
22:06.13ImpyDroidOr grass
22:06.14TybusenHachi_: Zazane Mother - Alright, son, it's time for your daily dose of salmonella
22:06.19Hachi_hur
22:06.21XhoBut Kicath usually take very basic but nutritional ingredients from different aliens and mash it up in their food, sometimes added with some meat from some animal for some enjoyment
22:06.34XhoHence awful taste and smell
22:06.48XhoExtremely healthy for them and they don't care about the taste
22:06.56TybusenI'm now imagining that Zazane vitamins have no nutritional value in them, just the latest strains of the most devastating diseases known to Zazanekind
22:07.04Hachi_olol
22:07.21Hachi_Well yeah, Zazane food is generally considered indigestable to humans because most of it is raw
22:07.23Hachi_And uncooked
22:07.33TybusenSashimi
22:07.35MonetThe way I imagine it, when people are served alien quisine they're eating hybridised food.
22:07.39XhoOn the other hand, anyone trying to eat Kicathian food like that might find it fatally unhealthy
22:08.02XhoEspecially considering Kicath have deceptive biologies
22:08.06MonetSo long as you can make the food biologically compatable, it's edible
22:08.13TybusenKicath are a bunch of liberal health nuts
22:08.18XhoPretty much
22:08.28MonetNot too hard given how advanced biotech is in the 1st gig
22:08.33Hachi_A Zazane can eat another Zazane and not get any negative outcomes regarding health
22:09.18TybusenI imagine replicator tech is now advanced enough that someone could replicate a five-star Vegas-style buffet made entirely out of dilithium
22:09.23XhoFor Kicath, the food must be able to keep their vision healthy, crests healthy, exoskeleton hard, spikes sharp, muscular stature toned and defined, teeth healthy
22:10.24XhoConsidering there are ingredients in the food that deliver nutrients to maintain their exoskeletal integrity, that's probably the main fatal ingredient in their food
22:11.02XhoDifferent traces of chemicals and metals in their food would probably poison their system and ded
22:11.31ImpyDroidRadeon food is probably artificial
22:11.35ImpyDroidProtein cubes
22:12.10Liquid_InkImported from the Coalition.
22:12.16XhoKicathian exoskeletons have a metallic layer on them mainly because of Paclernos' environmental situation
22:12.18TybusenRadeons are the kind that would probably replicate all their food rather than cook it
22:12.28ImpyDroidYahoo
22:12.32ImpyDroidYa
22:12.46Liquid_InkReplicated then imported from the Coalition.
22:12.51XhoSince Kicath used to reside in the forests/jungles of Paclernos they had shielding from the ultraviolet radiation from their star
22:12.54ImpyDroidThat and I have a craving of some sort for white blocks of food
22:13.09ImpyDroidFeta cheese, mozarella, tofu
22:13.20XhoSo for them it was an evolutionary defence to allow them to survive outside of the jungles
22:13.33XhoWell
22:13.39XhoSome shielding from the jungles
22:14.03MonetU got dat from Turians
22:14.15ImpyDroidKicalibration
22:14.16XhoThe metallic layer slightly
22:14.29XhoThe rest I just thought about why
22:14.41TybusenImpyDroid: It's funny because the Radeon are rat people
22:14.44XhoBut yeah it makes sense
22:14.55ImpyDroidHur
22:15.05ImpyDroidWell tofu isn't cheese
22:15.07Hachi_I'm renaming the Brood's fleet and military force to something more formal
22:15.19XhoMakes me wonder whether Kicath have tattoos, they probably did in earlier civilisation and might do now
22:15.22Hachi_"Dragon Battleguard" and "Fleet of Ruin" = nodik here
22:15.38XhoBut nothing as prevalent as turian tattoos
22:15.43XhoOr maybe not quite sure
22:15.53TybusenDragon Battleguard is badass though it didn't make sense to me since the Zazane aren't dragons :U
22:16.10ImpyDroidBTW Ty
22:16.14XhoAlthough the Kicathian exoskeleton thing was some time before I started playing Mass Effect
22:16.28ImpyDroidSeen my Draconis/Radeon/Zazane hybrid?
22:17.01Liquid_InkNope.
22:17.13Tybusennope
22:17.26XhoThe thought occurred to me that Kicathian exoskeletons might be metallic because their exoskeletons have a scaly appearance when angered as it raises from their skin
22:17.43XhoThen I thought 'Turian' so I was like "yeh why not"
22:18.02ImpyDroid[[File:Androstellar.png]]
22:18.02morgothBotPyImpyDroid meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Androstellar.png
22:18.13MonetDraconis scales raise up as a form of ventilation
22:18.32TybusenImpyDroid: That's the result of UrielxTyrazxIovera
22:18.47XhoKicath did it as a territorial display and now it just raises as a form of distinguishing emotion
22:19.00XhoAngry Kicath = raised scales
22:19.27XhoAs well as baring teeth, eyes appearing slightly more luminous due to increased blood flow as well
22:20.11TybusenKicath - *raises scales* Stop stop don't touch me there, that is in my private square
22:20.22XhoTheir luminous eyes probably evolved as an evolutionary power to see in jungle environments at night
22:20.48XhoEventually developing reflexes to have their sight magnify when necessary
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22:21.50XhoHm, just wondering about Kicathian diseases now
22:22.02TybusenI'm gonna assume that the Kicath never invented binoculars
22:22.18XhoWell they probably did
22:22.44XhoThe healthiest Kicathian eyes can probably see up to 120 times normal
22:22.45TybusenCrispy420: Hachi?
22:23.15Hachi_No
22:23.16Crispy420what?
22:23.26Tybusensoz
22:23.35TybusenThought you disconned Hachi
22:23.57Tybusenthe name kinda threw me off
22:24.09XhoProbable diseases might be a deficiency in night vision, magnification, exoskeleton strength, decomposition of crests, weakness in claws and talons
22:24.29XhoAlthough by this day and age most of those diseases are curable
22:26.38XhoSome of those would be quite painful
22:27.11XhoAlso makes me wonder what the colour of Kicathian blood is
22:30.09MonetHmm, most lifeforms have either red or blue blood
22:30.39XhoDue to metallic exoskeletons and metalloproteins needed to keep their exoskeletons strong, somewhere between
22:30.40XhoDammit
22:31.04XhoDue to metallic exoskeletons and metalloproteins needed to keep their exoskeletons strong, somewhere around indigo
22:31.16MonetIndigo?
22:31.25Tybusenwell, it would depend on which metals
22:31.26XhoBlueish violet
22:32.25Xhohttp://www.colorhexa.com/4b0082.png This sort of colour
22:32.35MonetBLood colour depends on the base for the primary blood cells
22:32.49Monethaemoglobin = red, haemocynain = blue
22:33.11Hachi_"Aliens."
22:33.11XhoSo probably closer to blue than red
22:33.12TybusenHemoglobin's based on iron, though, isn't it?
22:33.33MonetYeah, and haemocynain on copper
22:33.51XhoWell it might not necessarily be copper
22:33.55XhoFor Kicath
22:34.20TybusenAnd hemocyanin would be for something like Vulcans, right?
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22:35.02MonetYeah although it seems to vary. Turians for instance are haemocyanic and they have blue blood.
22:35.20MonetIt's probably because copper oxide is green
22:35.22Wormyhi
22:35.26MonetHi
22:35.40Hachi_Does anybody have any ideas for a more formal name for the Brood's military?#
22:35.52XhoDue to the sheen the Kicath can give off in different sets of light it could be something like Cobalt
22:35.57Hachi_Dragon Battleguard doesn't sound very formal, neither does Fleet of Ruin
22:36.14TybusenIt could be silver
22:36.28TybusenAll I know is that silver is blue-ish when oxidized or something
22:36.52XhoWould work for Kicath females but that would mean females and males are completely different species
22:37.18MonetSIlver-ish blood could also explain their love for the colour
22:37.33XhoTrue
22:37.49XhoWhat metals would give them silver blood though?
22:37.59Tybusensilver.
22:38.13XhoWell I was looking for something more fun than silver
22:38.24TybusenMercury
22:38.43XhoMercury would melt though wouldn't it?
22:38.52TybusenIt's supposed to be liquid
22:39.02XhoI mean the exoskeleton
22:39.21TybusenTitanium, maybe
22:39.39MonetMercury is liquid at room temp. DUnno about compounds but I do know it is -very- toxic to humans
22:39.49XhoKicath - FUCK YOUR SHIT WE HAVE TITANTIUM SCALES
22:40.04WormyMrcury can pass through human flesh
22:40.07XhoOkay well titanium scales
22:40.20XhoWhat would their blood colour be then
22:40.22XhoStill blue?
22:40.30ImpyDroidHachi_: The Grand Warhost
22:40.30WormyHowever it deposits in the bones
22:40.30TybusenBreaking news: Hunting of Kicath legalized for titanium
22:40.38XhoNu - LOL GOOD LUCK
22:41.19MonetVery light scales
22:41.23XhoBut I guess their blood would be blueish then
22:41.37XhoTheir exoskeleton is meant to be rather light
22:41.42TybusenTheir blood could still be made of silver
22:41.46MonetYeah. Was gonna say cobalt can also be blueish
22:41.57TybusenSilver or cobalt could work for the blood
22:42.10Hachi_ImpyDroid: Now what about their navy hur
22:42.21XhoSo their proteins would be based on cobalt or silver
22:42.28XhoWell that would suck for anyone who'd eat Kicathian food
22:42.33WormyWell my cobalt minerals tend to be purple, but they are sulphates
22:42.47TybusenCobalt is indigo
22:42.56MonetWoah i'm not sure if cobalt-based life is possible.
22:43.08XhoMonet: That's what I was wondering
22:43.26XhoSilicon?
22:43.31Hachi_loltits
22:43.38Xhour dik
22:43.54WormyI doubt it, though I'm no biochemist
22:44.04MonetSIlicon can work
22:44.15TybusenI don't think much outside the Carbon family can support life
22:44.26Hachi_Nitrogen
22:44.29TybusenCarbon and Silicon are the only two biochemistries I really know
22:44.31Tybusenshup
22:44.47XhoSo silicon based blood right
22:44.48ImpyDroidConvocation Astral Battlefleet
22:44.48WormyI'm eating cobalt coloured jelly, must be clotted Kicath blood
22:44.51XhoSounds nasty
22:45.12ImpyDroidConvocation = coming together
22:45.16Hachi_rite
22:45.34ImpyDroidGiven the Brood's nature, it fits
22:45.36XhoOr at least partially silicon based
22:45.42WormyI know but astral?
22:45.56ImpyDroidAstral = star
22:46.08TybusenSilicon structures, though the blood could still include a blue metallic element
22:46.13ImpyDroidAllied Starfleet, that's what it means
22:46.29Hachi_Makes sense
22:46.30WormyTrue,but it makes me think of New Age stoof
22:46.35XhoSo partially-silicon based life with titanium scales, and blue blood
22:46.45XhoDraconis - YOU'RE NOT REALLY REPTILES AT ALL ARE YOU             Kicath - nop
22:47.00ImpyDroidOr maybe Convocated
22:47.09XhoConvergence
22:47.14TybusenConvection
22:47.16ImpyDroidConvergent
22:47.18WormyKicath must breathe out sand
22:47.21ImpyDroidCould work
22:47.27TybusenConvection Astral Battlefleet
22:47.32TybusenThat's Crispy's fleet's name
22:47.35XhoKicath - *huff*         Zoles - FUK
22:47.51XhoI like simply 'The Convocation'
22:47.54CyrannianGoodbye you hateful bastards!
22:47.57TybusenBai
22:48.05Wormybe
22:48.08MonetBai
22:48.13TybusenEvery day on Paclernos is a beach day
22:48.22ImpyDroidbai
22:48.25WormyZoles  -  MY EYEs
22:48.32MonetXho: Maybe kicath 'sweat' to exhale?
22:48.33XhoAlthough that means Paclernos' flora/fauna is extremely alien as well
22:48.49XhoMonet: Probable, capillaries through the exoskeleton
22:48.58WormyEw they sweat sand
22:49.03Hachi_I like "The Convocation" as well
22:49.04XhoThat might give the Kicath their skin colour
22:49.13XhoOr at least their scale shine
22:49.19TybusenThe sweat could be water and sand like how human sweat is water and salt
22:49.36ImpyDroidConvocation = people assembling together
22:49.53MonetTHeians i never thought but maybe their exhalation is why they have such glossy skin
22:49.59XhoTheir sweat would be products of a lot of stuff that isn't carbon based
22:50.19XhoBut something I don't get
22:50.22TybusenHachi_: Rename Crispy's fleet "The Convection", Convection = people being cooked and made nice and crispy
22:50.27Hachi_hur
22:50.34Hachi_Older Hachi - u gon b shiny once i dun wit u theians
22:50.51XhoIf their blood is silicon based and their exoskeleton is titanium based wouldn't that be inconsistent?
22:51.10WormyD   Or some other solvent
22:51.27TybusenWell human bones are made of calcium so
22:51.32XhoFair enough
22:51.43XhoKicath bones would be metallic as well
22:51.54TybusenTitanium bones and scales
22:51.56XhoDamn they're beginning to sound sort of scary
22:52.16TybusenThey're practically literal walking tanks at this point
22:52.32XhoWell it would probably be a composition of silicon/titanium and something else
22:52.39MonetBones need to be light and strong so titanium bones make sense.
22:53.03XhoProbably something heavy then
22:53.03MonetHOWEVER. I get the impression when people say "light" in regards to titanium they mean it's light for a metal
22:53.06TybusenTitanium, silicon, and calcium are all light from what I remember
22:53.17WormyYou can get Titanium oxides, and oxides are compatible with silicon
22:53.17TybusenTitanium is pretty light
22:53.24XhoKicath are heavy creatures
22:53.36Xho325 kg +
22:53.41TybusenXho: It's all fat
22:53.47XhoOr muscle mass hur
22:54.08MonetBig question i'm suggesting is waht's lighter: Titanium, ceramics or collagen
22:54.23TybusenIf you want an idea of titanium oxide's weight, imagine picking up a golf club
22:54.31TybusenThat's probably a titanium bone
22:55.33TybusenEven if titanium is heavier than calcium, if Kicath are super muscular then that can explain how they can support their skeletons
22:55.58WormyWell they form big hexagonal atomic bonds
22:56.46MonetIf KIcath evolved to live among the trees then being light is an advantage
22:57.09WormyI suppose planetary conditions are important
22:57.25XhoIt would be
22:57.52MonetThat's the vital thing: All these minerals need to come fro msomewhere
22:58.01XhoTheir food hur
22:58.11XhoThat's how the conversation began I think
22:58.41MonetNo good making a lifeform with uranium in it's biochemistry because Urianium is almost nonexistant in soil unles sosmething's een nuked
22:58.46WormyLuckily silicon and oxygen are in abudance, as for titanium, I'm nt sure what cycle that has
22:59.25TybusenTitanium is one of the most common elements in Earth's crust, if I'm not mistaken though
22:59.48TybusenIt's something like #3 even
23:01.14WormyI'll look it up
23:02.01TybusenI think one thing I remember though is that pretty much any element heavier than iron won't initially be on any planet since stars can't synthesize elements that heavy
23:03.21XhoSilicon based life can still breathe in oxygen right?
23:03.31XhoWell I suppose they'd have to due to titanium oxide bones
23:03.57TybusenI think Silicon life can still function with oxygen
23:04.04MonetSilicon-based lfie can still take in oxygen
23:04.08TybusenSilicon's fairly similar to Carbon life
23:04.18WormyTitanium is 5600 ppm, however that is far from number 3, aluminium with 83000 ppm
23:04.19XhoJust a lot more metal hur
23:04.20Tybusenin some aspects, at least
23:04.33TybusenIt was either Titanium or Aluminum
23:04.41TybusenBoth light silver metals
23:04.46Tybusendammit
23:05.14TybusenI'm a fiction writer, not a geologtis
23:05.17Tybusen*geologist
23:05.49XhoBut wouldn't having a titanium/silicon body make them really strong though?
23:06.17WormyWell, there is enough iron in the universe from collapsed stars and neutron star collisions.  However, most of the iron, and other siderphile elements sank into the centre in a process called core differentiation, which also keeps the core warm even today
23:07.00WormyIron was largely depleted from the lithosphere by this
23:07.20MonetOne problem with aluminium
23:07.29XhoThat might make Paclernos look a lot more alien than it does then
23:07.29TybusenThat's the magnetic force from the nickel and stuff in the core, right?
23:07.59TybusenKicath - Our ancestors ate unobtanium in their breakfast cereals
23:08.00MonetAluminium doesn't break down easily from heat.
23:08.00XhoI'm thinking a lot more silvers and dull rock colours now
23:08.03TekDroidThe core is Iron, I believ
23:08.18MonetAluminium oxide*
23:08.22XhoI'll do that tomorrow, gotta sleep
23:08.22TybusenI remember the core being made of iron and nickel
23:08.33TekDroidCould be both
23:08.45TybusenOne layer is molten nickel is what I remember
23:08.51TybusenI think that's the outer core
23:09.23WormyIt is both, and contains many iron loving elements called siderphiles, which are often rare earth elements in the crust
23:10.01TybusenWhy do they call an iron-loving element a siderphile
23:10.20TybusenI don't really get the linguistics of that
23:10.30Monet5600ppm sounds sparse in regards to using the element.
23:10.32WormyDunno, sounds like they all love Sid
23:10.41Tybusenseeing as "ferro-" is the Latin/Greek word for iron
23:11.15TybusenMonet: Easiest explanation is "aliens"
23:12.19MonetThn again maybe Pacernos was in close proximity to a few supernova remants which added large amount sof tatinium to the crust
23:13.03TybusenTitanium is one of the elements a star can synthesize, so it makes sense
23:13.30MonetI forget where it is on the periodic table
23:13.40TybusenNumber 22
23:13.45TybusenTransition metals
23:13.55Tybusen4th row
23:14.21MonetIf I remember my chemistry, that's just over half the atomic number of iron
23:14.28Monetjust under*
23:14.38TybusenIron is Number 26
23:15.08TybusenTransition metal
23:15.10Tybusen4th row
23:15.11MonetIs 55 the mass?
23:15.19Tybusen55.85
23:15.32TybusenTitanium has a mass of 47.90
23:15.33MonetCLose enough
23:16.16MonetIt all depends on the mass of the star though I think. I don' tthink The Sun is large enough for an iron core
23:16.25TybusenI'm starting to think that my idea that stars can't synthesize above iron is incorrect
23:16.45TybusenI've got to imagine bigger stars can make bigger elements because they have more powerful fusion
23:17.12TybusenMaybe it was that a star the size of the Sun can produce up to iron
23:17.45TybusenThough that's irrelevant to Earth's geology since the solar system was built on the elements left over by previous stars
23:17.48WormyYou are correct.  To produce elements beyond iron, nuclear reactions become exothermic rather than endothermic
23:18.32TybusenThen how the hell did elements like uranium end up in nature
23:18.35MonetFission reactions.
23:18.40MonetSupernovae
23:18.55MonetReally really hot supernovae
23:19.11TybusenSo then bigger star, bigger elements?
23:19.16WormyThing is, its nt just the abudance of elements in space, its how the elements zonate on a planet
23:19.40WormyI think iron is the death nail for any star
23:19.45MonetTYbusen: The heaviest elements i nthe periodit table are made during a supernova
23:19.55TybusenAh okay
23:20.06TybusenThe star itself doesn't produce it, it just forms when the star explodes?
23:20.31WormyI'm not sure what series f chemical elements, geochemically speaking, titanium belongs too
23:21.29TybusenTitanium's considered a transition metal but that probably isn't the answer you're looking for
23:21.48WormyIron builds up, and the only way to produce heavier elements is via the p and n processes, saturating iron nuclei with neutrons will jump them up
23:22.01WormyNot quite
23:22.07Tybusen>isn't an astrophysicist or geologist
23:22.41MonetTybusen: You are correct. Only the heat from a massive explosion is enough toheat background temperatures t ofusion levels to make such elements
23:22.51WormyI get to study both :D
23:23.42MonetThe epicentre can remain at such temperatures for weeks I believe
23:23.49TybusenSo if iron is the heaviest element produced by fusion reactions... does that mean if we build a fusion reactor, we'd theoretically have a new source of iron?
23:23.51WormyYou are right yesd, I'm just giving a deeper explanation.  And I suck at chermistr, so you may know more than me in that area
23:24.26WormyI doubt ours would need to get hot enough
23:25.12WormyPlus if you look at a diagram of a star, the elements zonate as well, so it takes a looong time
23:25.52TybusenMaybe I just have a very limited knowledge on how a star actually works, but I started thinking a fusion reactor would also solve the helium shortage
23:26.30TybusenSince hydrogen fusion at its lightest setting would produce helium
23:27.08WormyI'm having to remember stuff from last year, so my explanations could do with tidying
23:27.10MonetHUdroge nis mroe useful
23:27.15MonetHydrogen*
23:27.26MonetHowever Helium-3 is a possible fuel source
23:27.33TybusenTrue, though we have far more hydrogen than we have helium
23:27.45WormyOne reason to go back to tye Moon
23:27.45TybusenAnd we use helium for a lot of modern technology
23:27.56TybusenNamely lasers I think
23:28.57TybusenI don't know a lot about Helium-3 though I'd imagine it'd be unstable due to only having one neutron separating two protons
23:29.12MonetWormy: That reminds me, i have this mod on KSP that allows me t oextract materials from the surfaces of stellar bodies and turn it into rocket fuel
23:29.44TybusenWe need to seriously invest more into nuclear fusion research since it's practically win-win
23:30.00TybusenWe get clean source of energy, and the "waste" can be used
23:30.37TybusenThe "waste" being a material we need for our fancy gadgets
23:30.45WormyWe need to research in fusion research, space mining and geoengineering to save our world
23:31.36TybusenMy friend says there's no point in going back to the moon, but I say that it's important since there are materials on the moon we could really use back here on Earth
23:31.47MonetSO many technologies, such a desperate time
23:32.09MonetWe've found water ice in the deepest craters on the moon.
23:32.12TybusenProbably the main argument in favor of investing in space travel technology is that other planets have many resources that we need
23:32.23TybusenI know that Titan has entire oceans made of natural gas
23:32.25WormyThe Moon is littered with rare earths deposted by meteorites left over from core differentiation.  We could skim thebsurface
23:33.02TybusenAll the more reason for America or the rest of the West to send expeditions to the moon, what with China hoarding all the rare earths
23:33.30MonetI think one of the issues right now with widespread space travel is getting into orbit in the first place.
23:33.43WormyI'd rather we not sap Titan.  It ould house life in the future if it doesn't already
23:33.51MonetEven today, you still need a calm day with clear skies.
23:33.56TybusenI thought that was Europa
23:33.59MonetTO launch a rocket ,that is
23:34.58WormyEuropa, Mars, Titan, Eceladus amd even the Venusian atmosphere could harbour life as we know it.
23:35.06TybusenI still wonder why they use Cape Canaveral, it pretty much knocks out rocket launches during hurricane season
23:35.31MonetIt's on the equator
23:35.35WormyThere is a very intereting methane signature on Mars...
23:35.56TybusenCall me crazy but I subscribe to the theory that there's still life on Mars right now
23:36.19TybusenEven if they are microorganisms
23:36.57Wormyhttp://wormulonempire.wix.com/core-formation  BTW I made a website on core fgormation for uni
23:37.15Hachi_Fuck, I have a mosquito in here
23:37.19TybusenI know that they found warm oceans underneath Europa's icy exterior
23:37.46WormyTybusen  My lecturer thinks life existed there and I quote "Probably still does"
23:38.08TybusenIt is extremely likely
23:38.53MonetI didn't think there were mosquitoes in the UK
23:38.53TybusenIt's not "life" as in dogs and cats but there are hardy bacteria out there almost for sure
23:39.36WormyI think life is all over the universe.  There is nothing magical about it, physics here are the same physics billions of light years away.  If we find extreme alien life then it may not be limited at all.
23:40.15TybusenI fairly sure any planet with something resembling an atmosphere could support a form of life
23:40.39TybusenOf course, it's hard to get the general public excited over bacteria from another planet
23:40.42WormyRobert Forward proposed nuclear chemistry on neutron stars
23:40.56Tybusenall they're concerned about is seeing those little green men from cheap sci-fi films
23:41.16TybusenLife could adapt to the extreme gravity on a neutron star
23:42.19WormyMonet  Rally?  I've seen swarms of mosqitoes.  They even made the news lat year when clouds of them spawned after the hot sun and rain in Somerset
23:42.21MonetHence why im' writing a sci-fi novel where aliens went largely undiscovered despite humans being everywhere in the galaxy.
23:42.57MonetWell...I have included planets with alien life, just nothing sapient
23:43.10TybusenI think most people think of alien life as either being intelligent beings or macroorganisms in general
23:43.38WormyYeah.  I think it will be very exotic
23:44.10TybusenI think a lot of people also expect alien life to be Earth-like in some certain way
23:44.25Tybusenwhich is fairly unlikely
23:47.02WormyI speculate some UFO's might be space based organisms or self replicating spacecraft sent from long ago
23:47.03MonetI'm willing to accept any theory, sicentific discoveries are ofte nnot waht we expect
23:47.12Hachi_Well I dunno, have you ever seen ALL of what Earth has to offer?
23:47.20Hachi_Some forms of life here are very alien
23:47.28TybusenExactly
23:47.56WormyQuite right, Earth has extreme life and may have shadow biospheres
23:48.33MonetIf there are self-replicating spacecraft out there, wh omade them?
23:48.39TybusenWe could have a glimpse of alien life by observing life in environments similar to those of extraterrestrial environments
23:49.04WormyMaybe they are long dead, and the replicators evolved
23:49.55TybusenI imagine life on Europa is similar in some way to deep-sea life near the poles
23:49.57MonetIt scares me that Stargate's Replicators started as a child's toy.
23:50.48WormyThe universe should be full of nuemanns if intelligent life has existed.  I wuld be surprised if we didn't find them in our solar system
23:51.14TybusenI think we have, the government just refuses to reveal it to us
23:51.34Hachi_My only fear regarding all this is that if we make one wrong move and we're extinct
23:51.40Tybusen*coughArea51cough*
23:52.45TybusenXenobiology is exciting
23:52.50WormyConsider that they were sent off a billion years ago.  That is a long time to expand across the universe.  Maybe some UFO's are in fact these probes, I think that is a reasonable assumption if we expect to find intelligence.
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23:53.51TybusenOf course, now we cross our fingers and hope the other intelligent life is friendly
23:54.06WormyTybusen  I recommend googling the online book Xenology by Robert A.Freitas which is free
23:56.27TybusenI've heard some people say that the Terran Empire is a far more likely future for humans than the Federation is
23:56.33Tybusendue to the inherent nature of humans
23:56.43WormyOne thig we must remember about intelligent life, I think mentality too, will be alien, and not humanlike
23:57.19TybusenEasily the hardest thing for me to imagine about intelligent life is their alien cultures and mentalities
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23:57.37TybusenIt's hard to comprehend something you, well, can't comprehend
23:57.53WormyBut its a
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23:58.10Wormyalso the most fun
23:58.17TybusenYeah
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23:58.23LawfulInsaneHello.
23:58.27MonetHi
23:58.42TybusenThe best part of science fiction, I think, is the literally infinite possibilities
23:59.01Tybusenintelligent life could be anything we can imagine
23:59.12TybusenIt could even be something beyond our range of comprehension
23:59.35WormyWell its trying to seek a non-normal and in some cases non-human element

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