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00:10.28 | LawfulInsane | Why does the infobot have a mind of its own? |
00:15.27 | Wormy_ | Ask her |
00:17.32 | LawfulInsane | Whatever, I'm gonna read the Borealis War. |
00:17.55 | OfficerJackal | ~test |
00:17.56 | infobot | ACTION hunts officerjackal down and lays eggs in his digestive system |
00:17.57 | Wormy_ | bye |
00:18.03 | OfficerJackal | Woops |
00:23.00 | TekDroid | ~Aeo |
00:23.01 | infobot | i heard aeo is a shrew |
00:23.28 | LawfulInsane | ngh |
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00:28.46 | LawfulInsane | Hi |
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00:39.15 | LawfulInsane | wut |
00:41.18 | Monet | A moth has landed on my screen |
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00:41.46 | LawfulInsane | Monet: So? |
00:41.52 | Hachi_ | It's a moth |
00:41.56 | Hachi_ | Grab shoe, slay evil |
00:42.12 | Monet | I thought it was cute |
00:42.45 | Hachi_ | Catepillars are cute, moths have skulls for faces |
00:43.33 | Hachi_ | Actually scratch that. Catepillars are bloody adorable. |
00:45.33 | Monet | Moths are lovely and fluffy http://www.aphotofauna.com/images/moths/moth_macrothylacia_rubi_fox_head_close-up_30-06-10.jpg |
00:46.37 | OfficerJackal | <3 |
00:46.49 | OfficerJackal | Daww. :3 |
00:46.58 | Hachi_ | Remember the Migeharverus from Distant Planet? Well, that is what moths are to butterflies |
00:47.49 | Hachi_ | I dunno, I just find moths to be...extremely unnerving. |
00:50.54 | LawfulInsane | ok... |
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01:07.32 | TekDroid | AB? |
01:07.36 | Angrybirds | Yeah. |
01:07.51 | Angrybirds | This sort of works. |
01:08.09 | Angrybirds | Don't think PM works, though. |
01:15.21 | LawfulInsane | dis weird |
01:26.14 | LawfulInsane | May a thousand Dvotties rest on your shoulders. |
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01:43.52 | OfficerJackal | ~test |
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01:54.14 | OfficerJackal | ~test |
01:54.14 | infobot | ACTION hunts officerjackal down and lays eggs in his digestive system |
01:57.02 | Hachi_ | Hai Oluap |
01:57.09 | OluapPlayer | hai u |
01:58.33 | Aeo | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_War_of_Eneki/The_Brewing_Storm#The_Spies_Arrive I've not posted this section in here yet. Hachi_ TekDroid AngryBirds thoughts? |
01:59.54 | Hachi_ | That last bit of dialogue struck out to me |
02:00.24 | Aeo | May I ask why? |
02:01.46 | Needles_10 | I'm drawing a Draconis |
02:01.47 | Hachi_ | I'm not entirely sure, but it looks good |
02:01.58 | Aeo | Thanks |
02:04.06 | OluapPlayer | Hachi_: u go bak to writing Florabound |
02:04.17 | Hachi_ | o rite |
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02:04.52 | Needles_10 | Yep |
02:05.05 | Needles_10 | I'm drawing a Draconis, and Monet himself is watching |
02:05.22 | Monet | It's looking interresting so far |
02:09.53 | OfficerJackal | Wait, monet is watching you draw? |
02:12.19 | Needles_10 | yep |
02:12.44 | OfficerJackal | Are you doing it over Skype or something? |
02:13.48 | Monet | Yes |
02:14.56 | Needles_10 | Well, we were |
02:15.02 | Needles_10 | He had to go |
02:15.19 | Needles_10 | I'll take a request |
02:16.08 | Needles_10 | OfficerJackal: Would you like me to draw a creature for you? |
02:17.11 | Needles_10 | Hello? |
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02:37.08 | Aeo | test |
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02:43.53 | Aeo | test |
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03:13.05 | Aeo | hi |
03:13.24 | OfficerJackal | Hey! |
03:13.45 | OfficerJackal | Derp. |
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03:16.32 | OfficerJackal | Da fa. |
03:16.35 | OfficerJackal | Da faq* |
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04:14.31 | puma7372 | Hello? |
04:14.55 | puma7372 | ... |
04:15.03 | puma7372 | ... |
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05:13.41 | OfficerJackal | ~test |
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05:13.57 | OfficerJackal | ~test |
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05:53.10 | Angrybirds_ | Aeo I need your critical eye. |
05:53.17 | Aeo | ? |
05:54.04 | Angrybirds_ | Out of these: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kingdom_of_Miperiors_4.png http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kingdom_of_Miperiors.png Which do you think is the best? |
06:00.29 | Angrybirds_ | Aeo?\ |
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06:03.48 | Angrybirds_ | Personal heraldry of the Graf Beyvik of Miperiors: [[File:Graf Beyvik of Miperiors.png]] MobileJackal Aeo |
06:03.48 | morgothBotPy | Angrybirds_ meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Graf_Beyvik_of_Miperiors.png |
06:08.09 | Aeo | *sigh* I really don't like the idea of the Mips being enslaved. |
06:09.31 | Angrybirds_ | Well, it happened, unfortunately. |
06:09.53 | Angrybirds_ | Why do not like it with them especially? |
06:11.52 | Aeo | 1: Main characters |
06:11.57 | Aeo | 2: Interesting ones |
06:12.42 | Aeo | Their obsession with inventing and general personality was always really good. |
06:12.44 | Angrybirds_ | So you think that the main characters should have plot armor and not run the risk of getting killed? |
06:13.15 | Aeo | It bothers me more because I'm more attatched to ehm |
06:13.18 | Angrybirds_ | I agree, gmfk was a terrific writer. |
06:13.22 | Aeo | *them |
06:13.45 | Aeo | I would much rather see his empire combined with the Amphibots |
06:13.55 | Angrybirds_ | Gmfk himself agreed to the Miperiors being taken over before he left. |
06:14.11 | Aeo | :( |
06:14.25 | Angrybirds_ | ^ |
06:15.09 | MobileJackal | D: |
06:15.11 | Aeo | Though actually I've realized something |
06:15.12 | MobileJackal | ;-; |
06:15.16 | Angrybirds_ | Hm> |
06:15.20 | Angrybirds_ | ?* |
06:15.31 | MobileJackal | He said he was leaving? ;0; |
06:15.36 | Aeo | I actually might have to veto it on balance of power grounds. |
06:16.14 | Aeo | That is, GTE presence in Delcath. |
06:16.31 | Aeo | And if they can't come at all they can't take over the Mips |
06:16.40 | Aeo | Not that that's the reason. |
06:16.44 | Angrybirds_ | The balance of power is EXACTLY even, though. xD |
06:16.56 | Angrybirds_ | KSA: 3,150 vessels |
06:16.59 | Aeo | Yes, between them and the ENTIRE REST OF THE SECTOR |
06:17.07 | Angrybirds_ | Tarkans: total of 32,000 ships |
06:17.18 | Angrybirds_ | 31,500* |
06:17.21 | Angrybirds_ | for the KSA* |
06:18.33 | Angrybirds_ | More than that, since the empires aren't contributing their full navies to the offensive. |
06:19.03 | Angrybirds_ | And the GTE only has 25,000 of its 32,000 ships in Miperiors. So technically, the Delcathians outnumber them. |
06:19.32 | Aeo | No, I'm talking about the GTE perminently taking over the sector |
06:19.39 | Aeo | *part of the sector |
06:20.01 | Angrybirds_ | What's wrong with that if the writer consented to it? |
06:20.21 | Angrybirds_ | And it's doubtful whether or not it'll be permanent. |
06:21.05 | Aeo | The GTE is so powerful it cannot be stood up to except by a united effort. |
06:21.11 | Aeo | From almost all of the sector |
06:21.24 | Aeo | Plus outside help |
06:22.18 | Aeo | All of Delcath, plus the combine |
06:22.20 | Angrybirds_ | From almost all the sector, period. That does not count the USF. |
06:22.44 | Aeo | Combine is in Varapha |
06:22.45 | Angrybirds_ | The Tyranny is exactly the same thing, except on a large scale. |
06:22.54 | Angrybirds_ | They might as well be in Delcath. |
06:23.02 | Angrybirds_ | Politically, they are. |
06:23.36 | Aeo | AB you of all people should understand my being concerned over balance of power |
06:24.28 | Aeo | I only ban things if it will have a negative effect on non-consenting parties or should have such an effect but avoids it for contrived reasons. |
06:24.50 | Angrybirds_ | Except that -- both in the long run and the short -- the KSA far counterbalances that power. |
06:25.50 | Angrybirds_ | You're going to have to dislodge them from there ICly. |
06:26.19 | Aeo | No, I can stop this if I want. |
06:26.36 | Aeo | My subsector. Your permissive word does NOT counteract my prohibition |
06:27.08 | Angrybirds_ | My word counteracts your word. I am simply trying to get you to see reason. |
06:27.13 | Aeo | Let's assume that the Drodo etc intimidates the GTE into not attacking KSA alligned nations. The GTE is still militaristic as all mother fuck and will instandly conquer everyone else. |
06:27.34 | Aeo | Because it absolutely can |
06:27.48 | Angrybirds_ | Again, you have no idea of what the GTE actually -is-. |
06:27.55 | Angrybirds_ | Lol, just like the Sindar. |
06:28.02 | Angrybirds_ | Granted, there's nothing on its page. |
06:28.16 | Aeo | Hyper-expansionist slaving conqueror #279 right? |
06:28.19 | Angrybirds_ | I'm in the process of changing that, but you're making wild assumptions. |
06:28.21 | Angrybirds_ | Nope. |
06:28.21 | MobileJackal | Oh no! A cluster fuck! |
06:28.39 | MobileJackal | uses Leave IRC! |
06:28.46 | Angrybirds_ | It's too unstable for that, Aeo. |
06:28.58 | MobileJackal | It's super-effective. |
06:29.19 | MobileJackal | But seriously, don't kill each other in here. Anyways, night |
06:29.25 | Aeo | night |
06:29.31 | Aeo | What, then? |
06:29.31 | Angrybirds_ | night! |
06:29.54 | Angrybirds_ | What do you mean? |
06:31.30 | Aeo | Here's how I reason. My condition is that it either absolutely effect non-consenting parties negatively, or fail to do so only through contrivance. Now, it could just not happen to attack anyone, but the problem is that it is, as I understand, militaristic enough that by default it conquers an empire if can take. |
06:31.35 | Aeo | *it |
06:33.17 | Aeo | So then, though "Intimidated by Drodo" is an acceptable reason not to attack the KSA members, but it should be default instantly attack, and because it's so powerful, defeat and enslave, everyone around it |
06:33.28 | Aeo | Who is not such |
06:33.40 | Angrybirds_ | Did you just ignore what I just said? |
06:33.57 | Angrybirds_ | IT IS TOO UNSTABLE TO TAKE OVER EVERYONE ELSE. |
06:33.59 | Aeo | So they don't conquer everyone they meet? |
06:34.12 | Angrybirds_ | No. |
06:34.22 | Aeo | If they can take them and there's no other reason not to |
06:34.25 | Aeo | tht is |
06:34.28 | Aeo | *that |
06:34.42 | Angrybirds_ | The state, the emperor. only has access to 11,000 of those ships |
06:34.48 | Angrybirds_ | ,* |
06:35.17 | Angrybirds_ | Etzan, the equivalent of a duke, owns 4,000. Hence his 15,000 invading Miperiors. |
06:36.15 | Angrybirds_ | The rest are owned by the vassals of the realm who would jump at the opportunity to declare independence, overthrow the monarch, or otherwise rebel violently the instant the Tarkan Imperial Army leaves for another realm. |
06:36.54 | Aeo | BTW Why do the Aeons have orange face? Purely for philosophical reasons? |
06:37.03 | Angrybirds_ | They also, by their own code of honor, need a reason to declare war. |
06:37.04 | Aeo | On GTE's page I mean |
06:37.18 | Angrybirds_ | Because you're at war with them? |
06:37.54 | Aeo | Miperiors are Yellow, and the GTE is enslaving them |
06:39.54 | Angrybirds_ | Forgot to update that. Miperiors shouldn't be on there. The reason I left them as yellow is because the Tarkans know that the Miperiors had no intention to wrong them, and therefore they didn't have any reason to invade them. |
06:40.41 | Angrybirds_ | Hence, those who know what's actually going on (the royals, a few advisors, etc), are rather disgusted with the conquest. |
06:42.42 | Aeo | Anyways. |
06:43.21 | Aeo | So you're asserting that the GTE coming into Delcath will not in fact have negative consequences on non-consenting parties? |
06:45.10 | Angrybirds_ | I'm asserting that your concerns are absurd. |
06:46.05 | Aeo | AB they are so powerful that you are not willing to state that they will be defeated |
06:47.24 | Angrybirds_ | I'm simply saying that the campaign is undecided. |
06:47.41 | Angrybirds_ | Fighting a war where you don't know the outcome is thrilling. The reverse is pointless. |
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06:48.12 | Angrybirds_ | Your actions don't have concequences if you know that, whatever you do, the war will end in your favor. |
06:48.15 | Aeo | An empire that only the entirety of Delcath can seriously contest in a to-the-death war is overpowered because it is perfectly capable of stomping over everyone in the sector individually. |
06:48.48 | Aeo | And btw some of us, like me, like the security of knowing that they don't have to walk on eggshells to avoid losing their entire empire. |
06:49.19 | Angrybirds_ | And yet, said nations are bound together by a strong alliance that unites them against said foe. It's not like they're alone. |
06:49.36 | Angrybirds_ | Then win the war. |
06:49.54 | Aeo | Easier said then done, AB |
06:50.08 | Aeo | Especially considering you're a better tactition than me. |
06:50.08 | Angrybirds_ | You have to try first. |
06:50.25 | Angrybirds_ | Tek is proficient, and he's learning from me. |
06:50.43 | Aeo | So regardless of IC skill level of characters you are going to win inevitably |
06:50.55 | Angrybirds_ | I meant Tek the person. |
06:51.00 | Angrybirds_ | The person WE know. |
06:51.11 | Aeo | In addition, I'd like you to remember Administration exists and I could be blocking you for any stupid reason I chose. |
06:51.47 | Angrybirds_ | I apologize for the sarcasm, but don't make me laugh. |
06:52.30 | Angrybirds_ | The way I interpret this is that you don't like the fact that the GTE took over Miperiors, something Gmfk and Ace completely consented to. As for everyone else, they're going to war with me for a reason. |
06:52.34 | Aeo | Also Sporewiki isn't a role playing game it's a fictional universe and pre-plotted things should be the norm unless all parties consent. |
06:52.43 | Angrybirds_ | And that's to kick me out of Miperiors. |
06:53.46 | Aeo | Your low opinion of me is irrelavent. I do not like the Miperiors being taken over but that is not why I'm questioning it and I did not consider blocking it until this problem occured to me. |
06:54.03 | Angrybirds_ | And what probelm is that? |
06:54.22 | Angrybirds_ | You're afraid of losing the war, so you're blocking it so it doesn't happen? |
06:54.57 | Aeo | Oh good piss AB you're being ridiculous |
06:55.10 | Angrybirds_ | That's what it seems like to me. |
06:55.20 | Angrybirds_ | That's what you're telling me right now. |
06:55.31 | Aeo | Letting in a power that can only be challenged by ALL OF DELCATH COMBINED is something which I as an administrator am rationally concerned about. Can we agree on that? |
06:56.30 | Aeo | Tybusen would you let a new empire into Bunsen if it were about as powerful as the entire rest of the galaxy combined? |
06:56.44 | Angrybirds_ | If it weren't part of an ongoing story whose whole purpose is to get rid of a larger and far more menacing power (the Tyranny), sure. |
06:57.03 | Angrybirds_ | But this isn't randomly out of nowhere, and this isn't as powerful as you claim. |
06:57.10 | Aeo | But what about after AD? |
06:57.17 | Aeo | And yes it fucking is. |
06:57.22 | Angrybirds_ | How? |
06:57.26 | Aeo | As powerful as I claim |
06:57.33 | Aeo | It's not out of nowhere. |
06:57.39 | Angrybirds_ | 11,000 ships. |
06:57.46 | Angrybirds_ | That's how much the Emperor owns. |
06:58.00 | Angrybirds_ | That's roughly the same as any other Delcathian nation. |
06:58.06 | Tybusen | Unless there was a really good explanation for it, I'd say no |
06:58.14 | Angrybirds_ | The Farengeto match that. |
06:58.26 | Aeo | And yet you consistantly speak like he's got 60%+ chance of winning. |
06:58.39 | Aeo | See what Tybusen said? |
06:58.59 | Angrybirds_ | I don't speak in absolutes. I can't say the war has been won until it happens. |
06:59.12 | Angrybirds_ | Likewise, I can't saw it has been lost until I have actually lost it. |
06:59.14 | Tybusen | What is the context here, though? |
06:59.17 | Angrybirds_ | say* |
06:59.32 | Aeo | Tybusen: Note that this is purely on balance of power concerns. Obviously one would be tier -3 or something to do that with bunsen but you get the point |
07:00.09 | Tybusen | Tier 1 would be sufficient but okay |
07:00.28 | Angrybirds_ | Aeo, note that if I wanted, I could veto your veto, but I'd rather you see how absurd your claim is. |
07:00.37 | Aeo | No you couldn't |
07:00.44 | Angrybirds_ | I could. I've done it before. |
07:00.55 | Aeo | No you have not and no you can't. |
07:01.44 | Aeo | As I understand, AB wants me to let a power that basically can only be contested by a joint effort by the rest of the sector minus the Gargator. |
07:01.51 | Aeo | Tybusen |
07:01.58 | Angrybirds_ | Which is what the whole plot is about. |
07:02.15 | Aeo | Yes, and that's fine if by the end they've fucked off. |
07:02.21 | Angrybirds_ | Said nations banding together and posing a threat to said power, a puppet by the Tyranny. |
07:02.31 | Angrybirds_ | puppet of* |
07:02.37 | Tybusen | It's perfectly fine to introduce a powerful faction for the purpose of a story about the others uniting to defeat it |
07:02.46 | Tybusen | That was the entire basis of the War of Ages, after all |
07:03.07 | Aeo | But if you intend to have them conquer the Miperioirs Empire, they'd own those colonies and thus are a PERMINENT ADDITION |
07:03.28 | Aeo | Tybusen he wants them to settle there long term from what I understand. |
07:03.43 | Angrybirds_ | Again, you're assuming the Delcathians aren't going to push them back. |
07:03.51 | Angrybirds_ | The odds say they will. |
07:03.52 | Tybusen | What's your deal, then Aeo |
07:04.03 | Angrybirds_ | 31,500 vs. 25,000 ships. |
07:04.24 | Aeo | Let's make sure we're clear here |
07:04.24 | Angrybirds_ | 10,000 of the Tarkan ships Etzan doesn't even have direct control over. |
07:05.35 | Aeo | My conception is that you want me to allow that after AD the GTE remains in Delcath as a long term or permanent addition which occupies the same space the Miperiors Empire does now. |
07:05.57 | Aeo | Am I incorrect in assuming that? |
07:06.24 | Aeo | Tybusen: That's not what he's proposing. He's proposing they be a persistant presence |
07:07.11 | Tybusen | They could be "persistent" but not at the same power level they arrived at |
07:07.21 | Tybusen | As in, there, but weakened |
07:07.24 | Aeo | But that's not what AB is proposing |
07:08.00 | Angrybirds_ | IF we assume that the Delcathian Offensive is to fail, or something else happens to ensure that the Kingdom of Miperiors remains a de facto province of the GTE, then yes. |
07:08.12 | Angrybirds_ | But we haven't gotten there yet. At all. |
07:08.18 | Aeo | When the dust has settled and AD is over GTE will still be in Delcath and will presumably still be there in 2800, then 2810, etc |
07:08.30 | Angrybirds_ | *facepalm* |
07:09.12 | Tybusen | I'd have to say right now, Angrybirds_, that something like this is best already planned out rather than decided in RPs |
07:09.31 | Aeo | THANK YOU |
07:09.37 | Aeo | I agree |
07:09.49 | Angrybirds_ | A few of my users find it more interesting when the outcome isn't predetermined. |
07:10.17 | ImpyDroid | They aren't *yours* |
07:10.26 | ImpyDroid | You don't own them |
07:10.29 | Tybusen | I'd have to say, though, if no one has any idea of the direction of the fiction, it tends to decline |
07:10.46 | ImpyDroid | And yes, you should have the basic storyline in mind |
07:11.00 | Aeo | So now I know never to be in a war with an empire you control because you think you can take my empire without mu consent just because I happen to be poor at this particular role playing game. |
07:11.01 | Angrybirds_ | ImpyDroid , Good point, it was merely a figure of speech. |
07:11.19 | Tybusen | Aeo: That's a bit harsh |
07:11.26 | Aeo | It's also true. |
07:11.39 | Tybusen | Don't make accusations like that |
07:12.02 | ImpyDroid | Aeo is somewhat blunt |
07:12.03 | Angrybirds_ | Tybusen - You're right, though the events give pace to the fiction. Events lead to one another and that is what keeps it going. |
07:12.11 | ImpyDroid | And/or thick |
07:12.16 | Aeo | AB Am I wrong that you think you can end my empire and enslave Lingur without my consent and despite my protests? |
07:12.48 | Tybusen | Angrybirds_: The best way to have a fiction story progress is to have determined major plot points as well as the beginning and ending, but the events leading to each can vary as much as you like |
07:13.50 | ImpyDroid | Yeah |
07:14.18 | Aeo | And of course you need to plot out the ending because it should be designed to be the best one possible for the story. |
07:14.30 | Tybusen | And in fact I'd say it's easier to keep suspense in a fiction if you, the author, knows the course of the story |
07:14.59 | Angrybirds_ | I personally think it is more interesting when the ending isn't predetermined. I have mapped out several courses the story could take if things go one way or another. |
07:15.08 | Tybusen | I'll just use Cyrannus as an example, none of us saw the Empire coming, but Um had it in planning for years |
07:15.42 | Angrybirds_ | And I have my own plans. I cannot, however, control the actions of the opposing party in the war. |
07:15.52 | Angrybirds_ | I control only one side. |
07:16.00 | Aeo | This isn't a real war AB. This is a story |
07:16.00 | Tybusen | Angrybirds_: You can always coordinate with the others. |
07:16.11 | Tybusen | In fact, that's really the only way to do this |
07:16.21 | Aeo | ^ |
07:16.37 | Tybusen | The RPs shouldn't guide the story, the story should guide the RPs |
07:16.52 | Angrybirds_ | The only way? We've been working just fine the way we've been doing it. As always, Aeon is the only one to raise any concerns. |
07:17.05 | Tybusen | He does raise a valid concern though. |
07:18.36 | Tybusen | I'll give you some advice and tell you that you should have your mind set on the basic plot of the story before you write it |
07:18.51 | Angrybirds_ | He assumes, though, that the story will take a path in which the GTE holds on to the Kingdom of Miperiors. Given that the entire KSA is currently at war with it (all of Katar, basically), that's unlikely. |
07:19.58 | Tybusen | If it's so unlikely, then I'd say ease Aeo's concerns by making a decision right now |
07:20.14 | Tybusen | Whether you want the GTE to stay or not |
07:20.20 | Angrybirds_ | And yet I want to keep the suspense. |
07:20.42 | Aeo | Here is the thing |
07:20.48 | ImpyDroid | Remind me |
07:20.49 | Angrybirds_ | What if I have made a decision hours ago (I have witnesses), and I don't want to show my hand? |
07:20.57 | ImpyDroid | What does GTE stand for |
07:21.04 | Angrybirds_ | Grand Tarkan Empire. |
07:21.06 | Tybusen | In that case, then you're fine |
07:21.20 | ImpyDroid | Ah, these guys |
07:21.22 | Angrybirds_ | A feudalistic empire Aeon doesn't seem to understand the inner workings of. |
07:21.37 | Angrybirds_ | Also, Aeon, that reminds me. |
07:22.20 | Angrybirds_ | The King of Miperiors, unless he holds any other titles in the main realm, would have access only to the armies of the kingdom. |
07:22.36 | Angrybirds_ | Most of them belonging to other vassals. |
07:22.49 | Angrybirds_ | That's how feudalism works. |
07:22.57 | Aeo | I am an administrator, and I am saying that as of now I am not comfortable letting the GTE in. So what I'm saying is that unless you convince me not to I am putting that off the table, meaning that-- oh? |
07:23.31 | Aeo | So It'd have how many ships of what tier level? |
07:23.47 | Aeo | Or I should say, power ratio compared to the other ships? |
07:24.11 | Tybusen | If they're a feudal society, then that could easily remedy Aeo's issue with the GTE "controlling" the Miperior territory |
07:24.29 | Angrybirds_ | It depends on the political climate, the situation, etc. I have yet to figure out the realm/vassal control ratio of Miperiors. |
07:25.02 | ImpyDroid | Wait |
07:25.08 | Tybusen | The Tarkans who end up controlling the Miperior territory could easily just go up to the emperor and say "suk a dik" and bang! GTE doesn't control it anmore |
07:25.18 | Tybusen | *anymore |
07:25.20 | ImpyDroid | Did the owner of the Mips agree? |
07:25.26 | Angrybirds_ | Yes. |
07:25.53 | ImpyDroid | So what's the problem then? |
07:26.20 | Angrybirds_ | GTE's is somewhere around 45%, while the Beyvekerie of Akrheer (Etzan's duchy) had about 15%. |
07:27.05 | Aeo | ImpyDroid: Because if the GTE conquers an empire from Delcath that is equivalent to settling there which AB needs my approval to do. |
07:27.09 | Angrybirds_ | Together, they control the majority of the realm by a slim margin. If we assume that the Beyverkerie of Arkheer were to not belong to an ally of the emperor, however... |
07:27.23 | Angrybirds_ | Technically, I can veto his veto. |
07:27.30 | Aeo | No you can't |
07:27.32 | Angrybirds_ | But I'd rather gain his permission. |
07:27.39 | Angrybirds_ | I can... |
07:27.40 | Aeo | Well let's decide that now because as I was about to say I don't want to have you go all the way to the end and me have to decide to reverse it on administrative grounds. |
07:27.43 | Aeo | No you can't |
07:28.01 | Tybusen | Aeo: That seems like a grave misbalance of power if your veto can't be vetoed |
07:28.17 | Aeo | Not really. |
07:28.25 | Tybusen | It is, actually |
07:28.26 | ImpyDroid | That's why shit happens if more than 2 users decide to own a place in the fictionverse |
07:28.35 | Tybusen | That's why the President's vetoes can get overturned |
07:28.36 | Aeo | If it can't be vetoed by Wormy sure |
07:28.45 | Angrybirds_ | *needs to remind Drodo that he can veto my vetos* |
07:29.09 | ImpyDroid | Vetoception |
07:29.24 | Aeo | He's not just gonna waltz in my sector and negatively effect non-consenting parties. |
07:29.30 | Angrybirds_ | lol. Tybusen, here's the power structure: |
07:29.38 | Angrybirds_ | Me (admin) |
07:29.54 | Tybusen | Aeo: YOUR sector? |
07:29.56 | Aeo | predicts that what AB is about to say contradicts what was said to Aeo on previous occasions |
07:30.06 | Aeo | My subsector |
07:30.38 | Angrybirds_ | Drodo, as he owned the fiction rights to the sector before me, has veto powers on me. |
07:31.12 | Aeo | Anything settled there needs permission from AB as admin of Katar and me as Admin of Delcath. I have no jurisdiction outside of Delcath. |
07:31.33 | Tybusen | Angrybirds_: Since I think the big problem here is that Aeo is concerned that what will happen will affect his sector, I think this could be settled if you told Aeo and Aeo alone what the outcome you decided on was |
07:32.13 | Angrybirds_ | Aeo was given Delcath to harbor his fictions. In theory, he was given the rights to deny people access to Delcath, a right I told him explicitly I could veto if I thought it was unreasonable. |
07:32.23 | Tybusen | If Aeo's fine with it, cool beans, and if he doesn't like it, you two will have to negotiate |
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07:32.25 | Jepardi | Hi |
07:32.39 | Aeo | I do not recall you saying that. |
07:32.48 | Tybusen | It might be better to have at least a larger number of the Katar admins around here so that you can all negotiate this |
07:32.48 | Angrybirds_ | I recall saying it quite clearly. |
07:33.35 | Aeo | It's something you would say because you're power hungry like that, but I don't remember you actually saying it. |
07:33.49 | Tybusen | Aeo: Cut back on the name-calling. |
07:34.05 | ImpyDroid | ^ |
07:34.06 | Angrybirds_ | Exactly. At this point, these options are open to me: I can argue until I'm blue in the mouth and red in the eyes from sleep depravation, I can veto his veto and go to sleep, or I can change the boundaries of Delcath to ring around only the Mardor, Aeoneonatrix, and Gargator Empires. |
07:35.44 | Tybusen | No man is an island, we're only going to resolve this if you guys can work together |
07:36.14 | ImpyDroid | I fail to see the problem |
07:36.20 | Aeo | I will confront Wormy with this if I have to. |
07:36.29 | Aeo | ImpyDroid: How so? |
07:37.04 | Tybusen | Aeo: I think Wormy will give a similar answer to the one I've been giving |
07:37.12 | ImpyDroid | Another's dude empire was conquered (though not complerelt assimilated and thus left at a similar power level) |
07:37.26 | ImpyDroid | by another dude's empire |
07:37.42 | ImpyDroid | And this empire just happened to be close to you |
07:38.05 | Aeo | Look, bottom line, I'm willing to listen to reason if it's actually there. Let's stop talking about who has the power to do what and have AB explain why my concerns are invalid. |
07:38.22 | Tybusen | ImpyDroid: *cough* Andromeda Grox *cough* |
07:38.50 | Angrybirds_ | Does that constitute an admission that they are invalid? O.o |
07:39.10 | Aeo | No I said I am open to the idea that my concerns are not valid. |
07:39.23 | ImpyDroid | The AndroGrox attacked, well, Andromeda |
07:39.39 | ImpyDroid | And this was mostly our territory |
07:39.43 | Aeo | Let's talk about that because if I come to the conclusion that they are not whether or not I could veto it will be irrelavent. |
07:39.51 | Tybusen | Well, they attacked the Starmasters first, which happened to be next to the Draconis, who freaked out and then beat the stuffing out of the Grox |
07:39.54 | Angrybirds_ | I agree. |
07:40.11 | ImpyDroid | and ST and Vartekian space was left |
07:40.16 | Aeo | So then. #Lingur'snest |
07:40.20 | Angrybirds_ | guuuuys. xD |
07:40.39 | Tybusen | I forgot what the ST was :U |
07:40.41 | Angrybirds_ | Are we staying here or going there? |
07:41.02 | Tybusen | We ought to bring this elsewhere |
07:41.02 | ImpyDroid | Xho's blue op fellas |
07:41.15 | Tybusen | Ops don't like arguments ending up on the main chat |
07:41.27 | Tybusen | waves to Xho, OluapPlayer, and Cyrannian |
07:42.04 | Tybusen | oh the Shka'Tun? |
07:42.25 | Tybusen | well then they got exploded in Tantumdumnomomnom bleh |
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07:50.05 | LawfulInsane | Hello. |
07:50.56 | Aeo | hi |
07:51.15 | Tybusen | ello |
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08:13.52 | Jepardi | test |
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09:00.50 | Liquid_Ink | Hello! |
09:01.17 | Liquid_Ink | The Vermites now have a symbol of their everlasting peace and love! |
09:01.18 | Liquid_Ink | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1a/VermiteMatriarchy.png |
09:06.44 | Wormy | hi |
09:07.10 | Liquid_Ink | How are you? |
09:08.44 | Wormy | I woke up from a nightmare with his horrible goblin so abstract I can barely remember wearing a mask and hands on sticks lunging for me |
09:09.30 | Wormy | Am I going to die? |
09:09.50 | Aeo | BTW I realize that the Aeoneonatrix Empire is not actually a democracy, as they in fact almost all worship the Cleanser, their immortal god-emperor. |
09:10.08 | Liquid_Ink | Okay then. |
09:10.23 | Wormy | Sounds like the DCP |
09:10.55 | Liquid_Ink | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP8 |
09:10.55 | Aeo | Only the DCP doesn't even pretend to be a democracy |
09:11.09 | Aeo | Also the Cleanser is much nicer than Wormulon |
09:11.19 | Aeo | *Wormulous |
09:11.25 | Aeo | *Wormulus |
09:11.31 | Aeo | HOwever one spells it |
09:11.43 | Wormy | At least the DCP government is honest |
09:13.13 | Liquid_Ink | The DCP government is loving. |
09:13.36 | Liquid_Ink | It's nicer than Oceania. |
09:14.15 | Wormy | To be honest, don't see what makes Cleanser aby better since he bends lesser beings to his will and keeps them as pets |
09:14.48 | Wormy | While most citizensvof the DCP simly agree with their empire's cause |
09:15.45 | Wormy | And some of his friends like The Judge, is obviously evil but he takes no notice |
09:15.53 | Aeo | Well, the punishments for one. BTW The Aeoneonatrix agree with the Cleanser too. |
09:16.51 | Aeo | And you can't claim indoctrination because that's more true of the DCP, or at least I assume given their lower freedom of thought. |
09:17.51 | Aeo | And btw though I originally intended the Judge to be the evil one Lost Memories is developing him more |
09:18.15 | Tybusen | If you've ever read 1984, the DCP is Oceania except more brutally honest about their oppression |
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09:18.42 | Sporeraptor | hi |
09:18.49 | Tybusen | And Wormulus is Big Brother though Kilnok could also be a Big Brother figure if he's worshipped like a god in the DCP |
09:19.18 | Aeo | Oceania has more starvation than the post-scarcity DCP |
09:19.23 | Tybusen | I just had a conspiracy theory pop into my mind |
09:19.44 | Tybusen | What if Apollo is Winston, Ramashe is Julia, and Kilnok is O'Brien |
09:20.25 | Tybusen | And Kilnok and the whole DCP is secretly planning to capture Apollo and Ramashe and have them transformed into DCP-ists or whatever you'd call that |
09:20.58 | Tybusen | And the whole DCP being at war with the Xhodocto is a complete lie |
09:21.22 | Tybusen | Because the DCP was allied with the Xhodocto at one point but you could expect them to deny it now |
09:22.09 | Tybusen | And the Grox as well |
09:22.18 | Tybusen | Which makes the Xhodocto and Grox Eastasia and Eurasia |
09:22.28 | Tybusen | It's all making sense now |
09:22.31 | Tybusen | Wormy you bastard |
09:22.45 | Liquid_Ink | ..? |
09:23.01 | Liquid_Ink | But the DCP are legitimately trying to destroy the Xhodocto and Grox. |
09:23.11 | Tybusen | That's what they want you to think |
09:23.21 | Liquid_Ink | Oceania's war with Eurasia and Eastasia is a resource sink. |
09:23.50 | Tybusen | Did you ever notice how the DCP and Grox will team up to fight the Xhodocto, and the Xhodocto and DCP are never at war when the DCP fights the Grox? |
09:24.00 | Tybusen | IT'S A CONSPIRACY |
09:25.34 | Liquid_Ink | Wormy, we need your opinion on this. |
09:25.37 | Tybusen | Plus, both Winston and Apollo have wives that have since been killed or something so it's a totes legit theory |
09:27.05 | Wormy | Both Tybusen and Aeo forget that the DCP sacrificed their lives defending the whole Milky Way during the Annihilation |
09:27.13 | Tybusen | The only hole I can think of in my theory is that Ramashe has never been seen wearing her red Junior Anti-Sex League sash |
09:27.53 | Tybusen | That's why the DCP wants them to think |
09:28.02 | Tybusen | *what |
09:28.31 | Tybusen | Who knows if they were really trapped in the Omegatropic or they just turned invisible? |
09:28.33 | Aeo | I'm not getting into an argument over someone's morality. |
09:28.34 | Wormy | I'm not realy sure if the DCP need to indoctrinate, each and everyone of them are bastards |
09:29.42 | Tybusen | The most important part of my theory though is that the Maelstrom is obviously a metaphor for Victory Gin. |
09:29.51 | Wormy | The DCP do bad things in the name of imprialism which in a weird way has done good for the Gigaquadrant |
09:31.21 | Tybusen | I can still see Apollo, Ramashe, and Kilnok being Winston, Julia, and O'Brien considering what happened in the Coalition of Delpha timeline and the fact that that wasn't even a mirror reality |
09:31.26 | Wormy | Whatever te case Tybusen, they have won |
09:32.06 | Tybusen | "It was alright, they had won the battle over themselves. The First Gigaquadrant loved Emperor Wormulus II." |
09:32.44 | Wormy | The Gigaquadrant wouldn't exist witout them exploring Tigris for the SSA in search of whitevspice |
09:33.21 | Wormy | Everyone would be still in their home galaxies for tye scourge |
09:33.30 | Tybusen | The White Spice hunt was all a conspiracy |
09:33.47 | Aeo | Okay I'm actually avoiding an argument about the DCP's morality, so can you please not tempt me by talking about it yourselves? |
09:33.49 | Tybusen | The DCP was just following the principles of Ingsoc and was trying to waste resources |
09:34.17 | Wormy | No, this is a public forum |
09:34.34 | Tybusen | Aeo: I'm playing a conspiracy theorist comparing every aspect of the Fictionverse to 1984, so I'm being incredibly sarcastic right now |
09:35.02 | Wormy | And I'm spouting DCP propagander |
09:35.14 | Tybusen | And everyone speaking English in the Fictionverse is a metaphor for Newspeak |
09:35.51 | Tybusen | Because you have Kicath speaking English when they could be speaking their more sophisticated Kicathian |
09:35.57 | Wormy | WE ARE ALWAYS VICTORIOUS |
09:36.21 | Tybusen | I bet in the DCP, 2 plus 2 equals 5 all the time |
09:36.31 | Wormy | Kicath also use Greek letters |
09:37.32 | Tybusen | People in the DCP could reasonably float off the floor like soap bubbles with DCP-level technology |
09:37.41 | Tybusen | Coincidence? I THINK NOT |
09:40.08 | Tybusen | I will have to ask Um if Apollo is afraid of rats |
09:40.17 | Liquid_Ink | Lol |
09:40.41 | Tybusen | because that will serve to confirm my theory that the DCP is really the same Oceania from 1984, except they became omnipotent like they said they would |
09:43.18 | Wormy | Bye |
09:44.00 | Tybusen | He's off to go rectify the Gigaquadrant history so that no one will know about me revealing the dark truth of the Gigaquadrant |
09:48.19 | Liquid_Ink | He's a goon for the Ministry of Truth |
09:49.27 | Tybusen | Minitrue, you mean |
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09:50.18 | Ghelae | Hello. |
09:50.24 | Liquid_Ink | Hmm. Entirely equal trade. |
09:50.51 | Liquid_Ink | Ghel, unless you've seen already I've added my dudes to the Koldenwelt map: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/d/de/KoldenweltTerrainTerritory.png |
09:53.22 | Liquid_Ink | Please satisfy my paranoia by telling me there's no problem with where they're placed. |
09:54.00 | Sporeraptor | hi |
09:56.31 | Ghelae | Liquid_Ink: There is no problem with where they're placed. |
09:56.34 | Ghelae | That I know of. |
09:56.44 | Tybusen | needs to add the Razoa to that map |
09:56.52 | Ghelae | Koldenwelt is more than big enough for all of the fictions that we are likely to ever have. |
09:57.39 | Ghelae | It's basically the size of Eurasia, and most of its nations are Iron Age or lower. |
09:57.44 | Jepardi | Emirate is a giant starfish |
09:59.36 | Liquid_Ink | The Dukati are a largely subterrainian species. |
09:59.40 | Liquid_Ink | Based off Ghouls. |
10:07.23 | Liquid_Ink | And they are starfish shaped. |
10:09.18 | Liquid_Ink | They are neither man nor woman. They are neither brute nor human. They are Ghouls. |
10:10.35 | Ghelae | Starfish Ghouls. |
10:11.09 | Liquid_Ink | Sorry, I meant their territory is starfish shaped. |
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10:11.14 | Imperios | Hi |
10:11.25 | Liquid_Ink | The Dukati themselves are fairly conventional monsters. |
10:12.20 | Liquid_Ink | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130729090805/spore/images/e/e2/AlignmentFantasy.png They're the Neutral Evil |
10:13.00 | Imperios | So Vermites won't live in the Frontier Land? |
10:13.01 | Imperios | :< |
10:13.18 | Liquid_Ink | ...I thought that was a problem |
10:13.40 | Imperios | Nah, it was okay |
10:13.48 | Imperios | They could live one the borders, remember the picture>/ |
10:13.59 | Liquid_Ink | Give me the picture again? |
10:14.12 | Imperios | Living amidst the Serenity Woods was a problem, but they could live on the border between them and the Frontier Land |
10:14.47 | Imperios | actually wait |
10:14.49 | Imperios | How large is the Vermite territory |
10:14.49 | Liquid_Ink | http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/archive/d/de/20130729215029!KoldenweltTerrainTerritory.png The picture had them deeply embedded |
10:15.16 | Liquid_Ink | http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/d/de/KoldenweltTerrainTerritory.png But now they're not. |
10:15.48 | Imperios | Hm that's large |
10:16.09 | Imperios | Maybe the mainstay of their empire could be on the north with a couple of towns on the borders? |
10:16.11 | Tybusen | I keep forgetting that the Archipelago isn't visible on the map |
10:16.56 | Imperios | http://www.wowpedia.org/images/1/11/WesternPlaguelandsWoods.JPG |
10:17.04 | Imperios | Think that but more Scandinavian/Russian |
10:17.21 | Liquid_Ink | So keep them where they currently are, but also have some settlements in the Frontier Land? |
10:18.41 | Imperios | Hm actually nah |
10:18.42 | Imperios | T |
10:18.46 | Imperios | That would be forced |
10:19.07 | Liquid_Ink | Then what would you suggest? |
10:19.31 | Ghelae | Tybusen: I don't think the Archipelago has ever been precisely located. It's probably somewhere to the left of the peninsula with the Dark Caxildiz on. I think it could easily be retconned to cover more than a few square kilometres of ocean, but the islands will still be too small to show up on the map. |
10:19.52 | Imperios | Just leave them where they are |
10:20.16 | Tybusen | All I remember is that the archipelago is a tiny string of islands in that big bay in the south-middle part of Koldenwelt |
10:20.17 | Liquid_Ink | I'm sure it's a nice and cold forest up there. |
10:21.01 | Tybusen | And I also remember I kept thinking the Archipelago was the string of larger islands in the south part of that bay |
10:21.42 | Tybusen | Probably because most of those islands are uninhabited |
10:21.46 | Imperios | <PROTECTED> |
10:22.08 | Liquid_Ink | A Slendyforest? |
10:23.34 | Liquid_Ink | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQGys9opnDY Gigaquadrantic Hegemony theme! |
10:23.37 | Imperios | While the Serenity Woods look like a mix of this |
10:23.38 | Imperios | http://www.wowpedia.org/images/8/85/Tirisfal_Glades_at_Night.jpg |
10:24.11 | Imperios | and this http://www.wowpedia.org/images/2/2d/Eastern_Plaguelands_East_Side2.jpg |
10:47.03 | Tybusen | night |
10:49.45 | Liquid_Ink | Imperios, there appear to be two of you. |
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11:40.59 | Aeo | My Little Pony Fan Fiction Idea: A war between Equestria and the Crystal Empire. |
11:41.15 | Aeo | Imperios |
11:42.36 | Aeo | ImpyDroid |
11:45.43 | Imperios | Aeo: Quite possible |
11:45.51 | Imperios | With Sombra in charge |
11:46.19 | Imperios | Or you could go with the Trollestia interpretation of princess Celestia in mind |
11:46.20 | Aeo | No, the MODERN crystal empire |
11:46.29 | Imperios | >you could go with the Trollestia interpretation of princess Celestia in mind |
11:46.42 | Aeo | And no Trollestia. The war is over resources. |
11:46.46 | Imperios | Hell |
11:47.06 | Imperios | Except that the CE is effectively Equestria's vassal/protectorate |
11:47.16 | Aeo | Do we know that for sure? |
11:47.34 | Aeo | And consider, Twilight is one of Equestria's leaders and Shining Armor is presumably the leader of the CE's military. |
11:47.48 | ImpyDroid | it is ruled by Celly's niece |
11:48.09 | ImpyDroid | Except that he also protects Equestria |
11:49.03 | Aeo | I suppose you do have that problem of the Crystal Empire's prosperity being mirrored across Equestria |
11:49.19 | Aeo | So yeah, maybe not that |
11:50.55 | Aeo | But... perhaps a war between Equestria and another party? |
11:53.13 | Aeo | Imagine Pinkie pie applying her cartoon superpowers to war. |
11:58.03 | Aeo | ImpyDroid |
12:00.41 | ImpyDroid | Already happened |
12:00.51 | ImpyDroid | Season 2, episode 26 |
12:01.13 | ImpyDroid | Pinkie Pie using her party cannon in combat |
12:01.45 | Aeo | I perhaps should re-watch. |
12:02.08 | Aeo | But as a foot soldier. |
12:02.28 | Aeo | Soldier 1 - Doo doo doo doo doo |
12:02.50 | Aeo | Pinkie Pie: Uses cartoon ability to conjure machine gun. |
12:02.56 | Aeo | * - |
12:03.08 | Aeo | Soldier - OH FUCK |
12:03.34 | Aeo | And of course the war is over resources, so both sides are fighting for survival. |
12:04.43 | Aeo | So no one is in the right or wrong here really and both sides just want to feed their people. |
12:06.26 | Liquid_Ink | Impy, on the Koldenwelt page, surely their galaxy would have a name, since we had named the Milky Way since at least Ancient Greek times. |
12:06.52 | Aeo | No, we named the visible ridge of the galaxy |
12:07.04 | Aeo | it wasn't the name of the galaxy until later |
12:07.16 | Aeo | So no Trollestia is needed. It's a matter of whose nation has to starve to death. |
12:07.49 | Liquid_Ink | So? We'll just put the Koldenweltian name for the visisble ridge tin the infobox. |
12:12.44 | ImpyDroid | Aeo: She used a machine gun too |
12:13.14 | Aeo | ImpyDroid: Perhaps this is happening because Celestia is sick and either can only raise the sun for 6 hours a day or can do it for the normal amount of time less often, like, rather than 12 out of every 24 hours, 12 out of every 48? |
12:13.58 | ImpyDroid | Sounds like a plam |
12:14.12 | Aeo | So there are massive food shortages leading to not enough food to feed everypony |
12:14.17 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: Astral Wing |
12:14.29 | Liquid_Ink | I like that. |
12:19.09 | Aeo | ImpyDroid: Also consider Dicord is working with Celestia as of the end of Season 3 |
12:20.52 | Aeo | Actually he'd best be taken out of the picture |
12:21.02 | Aeo | He's too powerful |
12:21.19 | Aeo | He'd win the war instantly |
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12:24.49 | Hachi_ | Hai |
12:24.52 | OluapWorker | hai u |
12:25.54 | Aeo | War of Eneki is turning out to be a realy nice story. |
12:26.35 | Imperios | Gj |
12:26.37 | Imperios | Hi Hachi |
12:28.27 | Aeo | does the shrew dance. |
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12:34.22 | Zmr56 | Hi there |
12:34.44 | Aeo | hi |
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12:36.30 | OluapWorker | ~nag Cyrannian |
12:36.30 | infobot | ACTION takes Cyrannian to a child day care and gives all the children poking sticks |
12:36.45 | Cyrannian | ~lick OluapWorker |
12:36.46 | infobot | ACTION licks OluapWorker *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
12:38.56 | Imperios | Hi Cyra |
12:42.43 | Cyrannian | Hi |
12:42.56 | OluapWorker | git workin on dem Foreign Relations |
12:42.58 | OluapWorker | den Cyranai War |
12:42.58 | OluapWorker | grr |
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12:43.49 | OluapWorker | hey |
12:43.51 | Monet | Hi |
12:44.05 | OluapWorker | Monet: I finished reading the Boatmurdered saga |
12:44.07 | OluapWorker | holy shit that ending |
12:44.20 | OluapWorker | Everything just set on fire and killed everyone |
12:44.42 | Monet | At least all the elephants are dead right? |
12:44.46 | OluapWorker | hur |
12:45.02 | OluapWorker | Also that one dwarf ruler who broke all the bones of another one's body while he was on fire |
12:45.06 | OluapWorker | That guy's a badass |
12:45.41 | Hachi_ | Everybody except Jason and Miranda refuse to talk to me hur |
12:45.43 | Hachi_ | Ngh I think my crew on ME2 are gonna die |
12:45.52 | OluapWorker | Jason? |
12:46.10 | OluapWorker | I take you mean Jacob |
12:46.16 | Monet | Boatmurderd's Elf-king is the only elf liked by the community evver |
12:46.29 | Hachi_ | Yeh dat guy |
12:46.49 | OluapWorker | Also that part with the nerdy ruler and the dwarf guard who just pulls the doomsday lever to solve any problems |
12:46.55 | OluapWorker | I love how casual that looked |
12:47.32 | OluapWorker | 5 goblins in a distance -> set landscale on fire |
12:47.36 | Monet | Problems? Flood the world with lava |
12:47.39 | OluapWorker | landscape even |
12:48.14 | OluapWorker | By the looks of it you can give names to yours dwarves. I'll name mine after SporeWiki people hur |
12:48.32 | OluapWorker | your* |
12:48.39 | Zmr56 | I just found a pink sheep in minecraft naturally |
12:48.45 | Monet | Koluap McInsanebastard |
12:48.50 | OluapWorker | olol |
12:49.09 | OluapWorker | Koluap will spend his entire life working on the magma river |
12:49.30 | Monet | Dorf - My lord, elephants are attacking again! King - FUK DIS GAY EARTH! *Pulls the "FUck the world" lever* |
12:50.24 | OluapWorker | I downloaded the game last night but it was too late to play. Im gonna start in the weekend |
12:50.42 | Hachi_ | http://wakpaper.com/large/Fan+Boats_wallpapers_163.jpg |
12:51.13 | OluapWorker | Needs a mandrill somewhere |
12:52.43 | OluapWorker | Three things define Boatmurdered: lava, elephants and mandrills as far as the eyes can see |
12:53.14 | OluapWorker | oh god it has a TV Tropes page even |
12:53.16 | Monet | "This is a carving of a battle. The battle includes an elephant and a dwarf. The dwarf is armed with an ++Iron Sword++ and an ++Iron sword++. He is staring at an elephant. THe elephants is angry" |
12:53.19 | OluapWorker | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/LetsPlay/Boatmurdered |
12:58.11 | Monet | Luckily for the people of Boatmurdered, animals are a lot less aggressive now |
12:59.18 | OluapWorker | All of the two survivors hur |
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13:23.28 | Needles_10 | ReCaptcha of the Day: discussed earyaft |
13:23.34 | Needles_10 | Heyolo! |
13:24.04 | Needles_10 | Why did I just do that |
13:24.08 | Needles_10 | Hello* |
13:24.26 | Needles_10 | fffffffffuuuUUUUUUuuuuuuUUUUUUuuuuuUUUUUUUuuuuuuuUUUUUU |
13:24.53 | Needles_10 | wat |
14:03.10 | Cyrannian | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPlCovyCEAEFRO_.jpg:large |
14:03.20 | OluapWorker | olol |
14:09.26 | Cyrannian | http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r302/BertX2466/Spore/Empire_Chalax650.png - Someone has too much time on their hands |
14:10.06 | OluapWorker | nolife.png |
14:20.24 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dark_Times#History - c |
14:23.16 | OluapWorker | i c |
14:26.14 | Needles_10 | Hallo |
14:26.22 | Needles_10 | o o c |
14:26.27 | Needles_10 | nu |
14:26.33 | Needles_10 | NUUUUUUU |
14:26.35 | *** kick/#sporewiki [Needles_10!562f1a6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.47.26.111] by Cyrannian (wibble) |
14:26.44 | Cyrannian | Whoops, I was meant to message him |
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14:27.08 | Needles_10 | ReCaptcha of the Dayukrosts from |
14:27.15 | Needles_10 | ReCaptcha of the Day: ukrosts from* |
14:27.18 | Needles_10 | My bad |
14:27.27 | Needles_10 | I was just very...I dunno |
14:27.36 | Monet | NO no it's fine |
14:27.42 | Cyrannian | I pressed the wrong button |
14:28.17 | OluapWorker | Still stop with the random messages |
14:29.36 | Needles_10 | What |
14:29.44 | Needles_10 | Wrong button...SHEET. |
14:30.03 | Needles_10 | Monet: ?epykS |
14:31.45 | Monet | Nah, not right now |
14:31.57 | Needles_10 | By the way, I'll take an art request of a creatue |
14:31.59 | Needles_10 | creature |
14:32.05 | Needles_10 | Anyone |
14:34.31 | Needles_10 | Seriously |
14:35.03 | Needles_10 | I will draw a creation of your choosing in my style |
14:35.04 | Monet | Needles_10: Were you going to show me your picture? |
14:35.15 | Needles_10 | It's still coming along, Monet |
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14:40.46 | Needles_10_ | ReCaptcha of the Day: balgaz 1864 |
14:40.48 | Needles_10_ | Hi |
14:40.53 | Needles_10_ | That was strange |
14:41.09 | Needles_10_ | Well, would any of you like your creatures to be drawn |
14:41.35 | Cyrannian | Yay, I just reached 150 subs on the Sporepedia |
14:41.43 | Sporeraptor | hihi |
14:41.49 | Monet | Dat a lot |
14:41.52 | Sporeraptor | *hi |
14:42.15 | Cyrannian | I'm pretty sure Oluap has more |
14:42.51 | Monet | Shame there aren't more people here to here this but I had this idea: Perhaps the Draconis have imprinted either their forms or aspects of their culture into the sapient species they created or deem to be of potential value to the Imperium |
14:44.06 | Monet | Nothing glaring but perhaps hints. Memes if you will. Say...perhaps humannity's eternal fascination with dragons was partially their fault? |
14:44.20 | Needles_10_ | Awesome, Cyr! Congrats nonetheless |
14:44.53 | Needles_10_ | Wow, Monet |
14:44.56 | Needles_10_ | That's cool idea |
14:45.20 | Sporeraptor | Nice idea |
14:49.49 | Monet | Latin, dragons, who knows maybe the idea of divine right could have been fro mtheir nudging |
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15:00.44 | Sporeraptor | hi |
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15:02.50 | Hachi_ | Hai |
15:03.04 | Monet | Hi |
15:04.15 | Sporeraptor | hi |
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15:25.34 | Ghelae | Hello. |
15:25.37 | Cyrannian | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a8/AwakeningGod.png - Coming soon to the Dark Times |
15:25.41 | Cyrannian | ~give Ghelae a cookie |
15:25.41 | infobot | ACTION gives Ghelae a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up. |
15:25.48 | Ghelae | eats the cookie |
15:25.52 | Ghelae | ~give Cyrannian a kitten |
15:25.52 | infobot | ACTION gives a kitten to Cyrannian |
15:26.13 | OluapWorker | "oooh purty lights" |
15:26.16 | Cyrannian | eats the kitten |
15:26.31 | Monet | I have a guess at who's coming back :> |
15:27.13 | Cyrannian | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/ef/Liberation.png - Another new story for the Dark Timesw |
15:28.25 | OluapWorker | "i cant see shit with this" |
15:28.32 | OluapWorker | poot Cyranai War section grrr |
15:29.07 | Cyrannian | I'm doing that now you smelly frogman |
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15:32.07 | WorkingJackal | Hello! |
15:32.17 | Angrydroid | aqqaaaaaaaq SSA |
15:32.53 | Angrydroid | has crashed and needs to close. |
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15:45.45 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dark_Times/Year_Three/Cyranai_Civil_War#The_First_Invasion |
15:47.16 | OluapWorker | gud |
15:47.53 | Sporeraptor_ | very good |
15:48.07 | OluapWorker | Bisistar - quit ur pokin *zap* |
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15:56.57 | Roboticking45 | hi |
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16:00.32 | Roboticking45 | hi Angrybirds |
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16:06.50 | Wormy | hi |
16:07.00 | Roboticking45 | hi |
16:15.11 | Monet | Hi |
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16:17.39 | Monet | Wormy: Where it says that the Chitauri/ALpha Draconisans returned to earth in the 19th century, was that a reference to the discovery made in Studied In The Deep? |
16:18.10 | Wormy | Cyrannian wrote that part, so I dunno |
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16:19.33 | Roboticking45 | hu |
16:19.35 | Roboticking45 | hi* |
16:20.17 | Ghelae | Hello. |
16:20.42 | Darkwarrior101 | hi |
16:23.24 | Roboticking45 | hmm, has any fiction ever consider genetically engineering enormous creatures to conquer planets? |
16:24.29 | Monet | Kaiju are a bit...clumsy compared ot say a giant mech or a low-orbit starship. |
16:24.33 | Ghelae | They've probably considered it, although it's not a very efficient method. The Tokzhalan Empire did use giant Zxxon, but they were never actually shown conquering planets. |
16:24.52 | Roboticking45 | true |
16:25.16 | Monet | My suggestion for the Draconis. It kinda links in with that section I made in that random stuff page. Draconis don't see humans as blind pond scum in the cliche sense. It's more they think we could have done better. |
16:25.19 | Ghelae | Then again, I never expanded on the Tokzhalan Empire's extragigaquadrantic exploits. |
16:25.25 | Roboticking45 | wait, have you seen pacific rim? |
16:25.39 | Ghelae | I've not seen it, but I'm definitely aware of it. |
16:25.53 | Monet | I wouldn't tkae Pacific RIm seriously. |
16:25.54 | Roboticking45 | ok, so i cant say something about it then |
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16:26.34 | Roboticking45 | I know, |
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16:28.02 | Wormy | I wonder why VSTF keep visiting |
16:28.10 | Roboticking45 | Giant mechs would be useful in conquering a planet, |
16:28.29 | Hachi_ | Pacific Rim is a massive joke |
16:28.42 | Hachi_ | It's reasoning and scientific explanation is just dum |
16:29.25 | Cyrannian | Hello! |
16:29.31 | Monet | Wait is it me or is the West a bit hit-and-miss with fiant monster films? |
16:29.34 | Monet | Hi |
16:29.36 | Ghelae | ~give Cyrannian another kitten |
16:29.36 | infobot | ACTION gives another kitten to Cyrannian |
16:29.43 | Monet | giant monster* |
16:30.01 | Ghelae | I'm not likely to watch it - and if I do, I'm unlikely to care much about spoilers - so if I'm the only reason for you to not give details about the film, don't worry. |
16:30.03 | Cyrannian | Another kitten? You are spoiling me today! |
16:30.26 | Roboticking45 | True, the jaegers couldent move in real life, no actuator or robotic part can handle the stress of moving a 2,000 ton mech that is 260 feet tall |
16:31.02 | Ghelae | I was given a huge stash of them by a nearby animal rescue centre. They don't have enough resources to look after them, so they decided to donate them to the local homeless Draconian centre. |
16:31.20 | Ghelae | I know you're not homeless, but there's plenty to spare. |
16:32.20 | Roboticking45 | How many kittens are there? |
16:32.25 | Hachi_ | Not just that, even the basic logic of the film was stupid; Jaeger didn't share technology or weaponry thus leaving certain countries at a disadvantage. The Japanese Jaegers managed to get blades to cut Kaiju skin; they didn't share this tech and all the other Jaegers outside of Japan were destroyed. |
16:32.33 | Ghelae | A few hundred. Why do you ask? |
16:32.43 | Hachi_ | Also, main Jaeger attack; punching. Not guns, not ranged weapons; punching. |
16:33.27 | Ghelae | Hachi: It doesn't sound like there's *any* reasoning or scientific explanation there (unless "it looks awesome" counts as reasoning). |
16:33.51 | Monet | "It looks awesome" is the only thing that makes the Jaegers work at all |
16:33.54 | Roboticking45 | They do have plasma weapons, to stop kaiju blue, but its true, why not fire the weapon off before any punching is needed |
16:34.04 | Roboticking45 | and anti-kaiju missiles |
16:34.39 | Monet | Using a giant robot to take over a city is an overrated concept |
16:34.43 | Roboticking45 | actually japans jaeger was destroyed before the rest i believe, |
16:34.56 | Roboticking45 | Saw the film |
16:35.25 | Roboticking45 | only seen the japan one in prologue |
16:35.45 | Hachi_ | Also, each Jaeger requires two people to work via neural amplification and amplication. Why not just do it the standard way and make it solo-pilot friendly with vehicle controls rather than placing a massive bet and risk in something that, in basic, is telekinesis that requires two contributors. |
16:35.51 | Hachi_ | application* |
16:36.32 | Monet | If the entire planet is at stake ,why the fuck wasn't the Jaeger programme a multinational project? |
16:36.44 | Roboticking45 | well, i guess so you have more control over the jaeger, like it follows your movements |
16:37.03 | Hachi_ | Monet: Oh it was. But they didn't make anything standard between the countries. |
16:37.12 | Hachi_ | So effectively, each branch of Jaeger was on its own |
16:37.21 | Monet | Two people does not give you more control if it's synched to your movements |
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16:37.33 | Roboticking45 | It was, the ppdc, but they cut funding to the program, for a "Wall of life" that couldent hold up to a cat Iv |
16:37.43 | Hachi_ | Two people make it a hella lot more dangerous |
16:37.44 | Jepardi | Hi |
16:37.51 | Ghelae | Hello. |
16:38.12 | Roboticking45 | They made it two people, "due to the nerual load being to much for one pilot to handle" |
16:38.44 | Roboticking45 | (CAT IV is a category 4 Kaiju) |
16:38.46 | Hachi_ | Yeah, that doesn't make any sense |
16:39.11 | Hachi_ | That method of "putting two brains together" doesn't work |
16:39.19 | Monet | Yeah but the computers were reading the signals fro mtwo people. THat's like having two peopel having full control of a single body |
16:39.53 | Roboticking45 | In the flim, the two pilots had control over one hempishere of the jaeger, |
16:40.33 | Ghelae | So each pilot controlled one half of its body? |
16:40.54 | Hachi_ | Still; install standard vehicle controls and erase the need for an extra person |
16:40.55 | Monet | I've decided. While larger Theian ships do use more than one integrated pilot, it's divided up so rather than a single pilot doing everything, pilots of larger ships are given a specific area of tasks. EG, one pilot controls populsion and direction, one commands all weapons. |
16:41.11 | Roboticking45 | yes Ghelae |
16:43.34 | Monet | I don't see all but the largest THeian ships needing more tha three pilots. In fact anything smaller than a battleship only needs one mind to control. |
16:44.11 | Monet | And unlike the Jaegers, pilots of THeian ships function as a sort-of hive mind |
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16:45.03 | Ghelae | Hello. |
16:45.26 | Roboticking45 | Jaegers, have a thing called the drift, their minds meld together, so they can control the jaeger |
16:46.14 | Xho | Oh god we're on Pacific Rim again |
16:47.01 | Roboticking45 | .....when did we talk about this before |
16:47.20 | Ghelae | And this is all really secondary to the issue of using mecha or kaiju in actual warfare. |
16:47.30 | Hachi_ | Why not just use a single pilot with VEHICLE controls rather than using telepathy |
16:47.31 | Monet | When Hachi and AdmiralPanda first saw it. |
16:47.32 | Hachi_ | Or integrate an AI into a Jaeger body for it to analyze and react faster to the situation rather than two humans who succumb to panic. |
16:47.46 | Xho | I talked about the film ages ago |
16:47.48 | Xho | y none of u |
16:47.50 | Xho | y |
16:47.55 | Roboticking45 | ... |
16:48.05 | Ghelae | If nobody else was talking about the film... |
16:48.12 | Ghelae | ...then who were you talking to? |
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16:48.22 | Xho | Everyone |
16:48.22 | Xho | c |
16:48.32 | OluapWorker | ~punch Xho |
16:48.32 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Xho right on the nose |
16:48.34 | OluapWorker | shup |
16:48.44 | Xho | ~eat OluapWorker |
16:48.45 | infobot | ACTION slurps up all the OluapWorker available |
16:48.51 | OluapWorker | nu |
16:49.31 | Monet | Hachi_: Probably because the director/scriptwriter though audiences could ocnnect mroe with pairs of people than an AI. |
16:49.35 | Wormy | His reflection |
16:49.56 | Roboticking45 | if you genetically engineer the kaiju, coul could make them rather intelligent rather then dumb and clumsy |
16:50.05 | Roboticking45 | you* |
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16:50.24 | Ghelae | Clumsiness is more a limitation imposed by the laws of physics than by brain structure. |
16:50.54 | Xho | Ghelae: Coordination? |
16:51.51 | Ghelae | Well, I haven't seen the movie, so I don't know how much about the clumsiness of the kaiju in it. |
16:51.58 | Roboticking45 | the kaiju do have two brains, |
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16:52.14 | Monet | I've come to the conclusion that Hollywood is mostly abotu entertaining the masses. Hollywood films often get stuff glaringly wrong. |
16:52.18 | Roboticking45 | But they arent very clumsy, in terms of walking and fighting |
16:52.18 | Xho | Ghelae: Well, they destroy cities |
16:52.24 | Xho | Clumsiness is an art form |
16:52.26 | Wormy_ | Did anyone watch World War Z? |
16:52.43 | Ghelae | If they're destroying cities completely by accident, then yes, that does point to a huge lack of coordination. |
16:53.00 | Roboticking45 | they destoroy cities, because they need to remove the vermin (aka, us |
16:53.05 | Roboticking45 | destroy* |
16:53.19 | Xho | Well I think the higher the class the Kaiju were in the film the more intelligent they were |
16:53.27 | Aeo | Monet_ I think Ideas of "the masses" are generally misguided. They tend to lead to dehumanization and thinking of yourself as one of the few enlightened ones in an army of mindless froned |
16:53.31 | Aeo | *drones |
16:53.31 | Wormy_ | Maybe they are drunk! |
16:53.43 | Roboticking45 | yes, thats true xho, the Cat V was the most intelligent |
16:54.20 | Roboticking45 | If you want to know why they were attacking cities, ill have to spoil the movie \ |
16:54.51 | Ghelae | I assume it wasn't just a huge lack of coordination causing excessive clumsiness? |
16:55.10 | Xho | They were so coordinated they were clumsy |
16:55.17 | Ghelae | "Oops; I stood on a city. Sorry!" |
16:55.35 | Roboticking45 | Ok heres why they destroyed cities |
16:55.49 | Ghelae | All I'm asking for is a "yes" or "no" answer. |
16:55.49 | Monet | I could name a hundred films and music artists that I and many others could consider little more than mind-numbing tat. Anything by Justin BEiber or One Direction for instance. |
16:56.01 | Wormy_ | This film is beginning to sound like D war |
16:56.03 | Ghelae | I don't need a full-blown spoiler if it's not neccessary. |
16:56.05 | Xho | hur |
16:56.47 | Wormy_ | Yes I may watch this film one day |
16:57.21 | Wormy_ | I have a tolerance for crapband b movies |
16:57.29 | Roboticking45 | it was not due to clumsiness that they destroyed cities |
16:57.37 | Ghelae | Thank you. That's all I needed to know. |
16:58.19 | Roboticking45 | ok |
16:59.04 | Wormy_ | Aeo Well I don't see much original stuff being pumped out of the mainstream entertainment industry lately. I've enjoyed independant films more which the masses don't see |
16:59.38 | Aeo | instantly suspects Wormy_ is a hipster. |
16:59.49 | Monet | And that's a bad thing...why? |
17:00.17 | Aeo | Well, wormy is not arrogatn, but hipsters are thought of as being in general |
17:00.32 | Wormy_ | What do Transformers, Battleship, Battle Los Angeles and the latest Superman film have in common? |
17:01.01 | Hachi_ | ASPLOSIONS |
17:01.03 | Roboticking45 | they have aliens as the main antagonists? |
17:01.03 | Monet | They're all made to focus on action than story or uniqueness? |
17:01.22 | Wormy_ | They all show off the US military fighting superior alien forces and winning |
17:01.37 | Monet | Oh yeah that |
17:01.53 | Monet | THat happens in any Bay movie though |
17:02.11 | Cyrannian | I think judging people based on what films they watch or what type of music they listen to is silly. To each his own. |
17:02.54 | Roboticking45 | man of steel is not by bay, but yes, to each their own |
17:03.07 | Wormy_ | How flying warthogs can take out alien robot tingies I don't know |
17:03.14 | Ghelae | Having the US military defeat superior alien forces is a good way of getting the US military to let you use their stuff in your film. |
17:03.26 | Hachi_ | I dunt judge people for the film, I judge the films hur |
17:03.41 | Wormy_ | lop |
17:03.44 | Wormy_ | lol |
17:04.20 | Wormy_ | Aeo Thats two people who think I'm a hipster |
17:04.38 | Ghelae | Although, in Man of Steel, the human technology itself doesn't do much damage to the Kryptonians (an air-to-ground missile can just about knock one unconscious). |
17:05.15 | Ghelae | I can't talk about the other movies, but from what I know, I don't think they have that excuse. |
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17:05.34 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:05.50 | Xho | Whole race of Supermen |
17:05.56 | Tecnhodroid | <PROTECTED> |
17:06.08 | Xho | Nu - DAMMIT |
17:06.17 | Hachi_ | Xho: They're only Superman under a yellow or blue star |
17:06.32 | Xho | Silly radiation |
17:06.54 | Ghelae | Yeah; they might not be as tough without being on Earth giving them superpowers. Although their armour seemed pretty tough too. |
17:07.00 | Roboticking45 | blue star, i thought it was only yellow |
17:07.10 | Hachi_ | Blue star makes them stronger |
17:07.14 | Hachi_ | Red stars weaken them |
17:07.18 | Roboticking45 | on their home planet, thar had no powers |
17:07.21 | Roboticking45 | they* |
17:07.26 | Hachi_ | Cuz their star was red |
17:07.31 | Roboticking45 | yup |
17:07.43 | Xho | Would be funny if it happened to Nu |
17:07.51 | Xho | Superman under a native star, Supersuperman under Sol |
17:07.58 | Cyrannian | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNSvSLQCMAIA5A_.jpg:large |
17:08.08 | Ghelae | It's based on how energetic the stars are. Red stars are the least energetic. Presumably, in the DC comics universe, humans under a blue star would be like Superman under a yellow star. |
17:08.34 | OluapWorker | hur |
17:08.39 | Xho | Ghelae: Couldn't alien biology influence that |
17:08.49 | Hachi_ | Ghelae: Kryptonians derive from a photosynthesis-like method |
17:08.52 | Roboticking45 | goes to a planet with a blue star and gets awesome power |
17:08.52 | Hachi_ | Doesn't apply to humans |
17:08.54 | Ghelae | Oh, yeah, there's that too. I forgot about that. |
17:09.06 | Hachi_ | Humans under blue star = baked |
17:09.09 | Aeo | moves to a blue sun world. |
17:09.24 | Xho | Hachi_: Habitable zone hur |
17:09.27 | Ghelae | Sorry, Roboticking45 and Aeo. You've only ended up with severe sunburn and skin cancer instead. |
17:09.27 | Roboticking45 | Guy who wants superman powers* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
17:09.38 | Roboticking45 | Awwwh |
17:09.53 | Wormy_ | Hm, I wonder what thy would be on te tier scale |
17:10.03 | Roboticking45 | tier 3? 2? 1? |
17:10.07 | Ghelae | Xho: Blue stars spew out a lot more UV light than yellow stars. Even in the habitable zone, you'd burn. |
17:10.15 | Xho | Wormy_: I can't imagine it would be that advanced |
17:10.20 | Xho | Ghelae: Forgot about UV hur |
17:10.21 | Roboticking45 | tier 4? |
17:10.24 | Aeo | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_War_of_Eneki/The_Brewing_Storm#Callanni.27s_Identity_Confirmed Hachi_ Wormy_ AngryBirds Thoughts? |
17:10.33 | Ghelae | I don't know about in the comics, but in the movie, the Kryptonians absolutely failed at space colonisation. |
17:10.36 | Xho | c |
17:10.48 | Hachi_ | Ghelae: Yeah they weren't very good at expansion hur |
17:10.56 | Aeo | Kryptonians are tier 5 at most |
17:11.07 | Aeo | Well, they are tier 5 |
17:11.26 | Xho | Kryptonians - Tier 5 in fiction, most powerful entities in the DC universe when on Earth |
17:11.28 | Ghelae | They'd been spacefaring for 100,000 years, so some of their colonies had been around for about 20 times longer than the whole of human civilisation on Earth. And then a new social policy on Krypton caused them all to collapse. |
17:11.37 | Xho | So Tier 4 then hur |
17:11.50 | Roboticking45 | and destroyed themselves by trying to harvest their cores power |
17:11.51 | Hachi_ | They absolutely devastate in terms of physical power, but their technology sucks compared to some other DC aliens |
17:13.16 | Wormy_ | I see |
17:19.54 | Tecnhodroid | You are trying to make DC realistic |
17:19.57 | Tecnhodroid | gl |
17:20.27 | Xho | lul |
17:20.35 | Hachi_ | We're not trying anything actually |
17:20.39 | Xho | Metaphysical nihilism ftw |
17:20.40 | Hachi_ | We're just establishing the facts given in DC canon hur |
17:21.16 | Tecnhodroid | So you're quoting people who are trying to make DC realistic then |
17:21.35 | Hachi_ | Yeah; the guys behind DC |
17:21.55 | Hachi_ | Course DC aint realistic, it never was |
17:22.02 | Hachi_ | It's anything but |
17:22.03 | Xho | Batman hur |
17:22.11 | Tecnhodroid | They should be like Kojima and use nanomachines to explain everything 'realistically' |
17:22.18 | Tecnhodroid | Batman is the best |
17:22.24 | Hachi_ | Yes because Batman does have *everything* on his utility belt |
17:22.33 | Xho | Someone managed to work out that in the three new Batman films, the total price for all of his equipment and vehicles sums at $682,000,000 |
17:22.36 | Tecnhodroid | Bane > any supervillain |
17:22.42 | Hachi_ | ^ Joker |
17:22.54 | Tecnhodroid | ...except him |
17:23.00 | Xho | ^Ra's Al Ghul |
17:23.03 | Hachi_ | hur |
17:23.10 | Tecnhodroid | And again both are Batman villains |
17:23.26 | Tecnhodroid | <PROTECTED> |
17:23.43 | Xho | My favourite Batman villain is Joker though |
17:23.52 | Xho | Bane is a close second |
17:23.56 | Wormy_ | Superman owns the day, Batman owns the night. |
17:24.04 | OluapWorker | superman dum |
17:24.08 | Xho | Supernu |
17:24.11 | Xho | Because fuck everything |
17:24.13 | Hachi_ | Deadpool is betta |
17:24.24 | OluapWorker | I find Deadpool really annoyinh |
17:24.27 | Xho | My favourite Marvel villain is Dormammu |
17:24.28 | OluapWorker | annoying even |
17:24.42 | OluapWorker | also moov Florabound nao |
17:24.54 | Hachi_ | rite |
17:24.55 | Tecnhodroid | Wasn't Iron Man made to rival Batman |
17:25.11 | Hachi_ | I thought he was made to rival Superman |
17:25.20 | Wormy_ | I think Dr.Manhatten is more powerful than Superman |
17:25.45 | Tecnhodroid | Seems more of a batman rival; super hero with no powers who is a millionaire |
17:25.52 | Xho | Dr. Manhattan isn't from DC or Marvel hur |
17:26.04 | Wormy_ | Oh |
17:26.23 | Wormy_ | I thought Watchmen was DC |
17:26.31 | Xho | Nope, independent |
17:27.11 | Wormy_ | Damnit more evidence I'm a hipster |
17:28.36 | Tecnhodroid | When this is all over and Gotham is ashes... |
17:28.45 | Cyrannian | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHmNyg-CMAA2s__.jpg:large |
17:28.51 | Xho | dunt quoet bane |
17:28.57 | Xho | bane is 2 gud 4 u |
17:29.01 | Hachi_ | olol |
17:29.02 | Xho | 2 gud 4 everyone |
17:29.12 | Hachi_ | "THIS IS WHAT YOUR BODY LOOKS LIKE WITHOUT FIBRE" |
17:29.18 | Xho | olol |
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17:29.30 | Xho | Hachi_: You should hear Bane's voice in Spanish |
17:29.34 | Xho | Genuinely scary |
17:30.59 | Hachi_ | I always wondered |
17:31.05 | Hachi_ | Commander Shepard vs Master Chief |
17:31.35 | Tecnhodroid | Shepard |
17:31.41 | Tecnhodroid | <PROTECTED> |
17:31.43 | Tecnhodroid | Now |
17:31.48 | Xho | http://youtu.be/DLrKG-ArU2E?t=1m34s Hear for yourself |
17:31.55 | Xho | Hm that's difficult |
17:31.58 | Wormy_ | Humans in Halo seem more advanced |
17:32.01 | Tecnhodroid | And Shepard has more friends |
17:32.20 | OluapWorker | Hola, Master Chef, etc |
17:32.23 | Hachi_ | hur |
17:32.24 | Xho | Master Chief is a genetically engineered supersolider and Commander Shepard is just generally a badass human |
17:32.29 | Xho | *supersoldier |
17:32.37 | Hachi_ | Shepard has Biotics though |
17:32.41 | Tecnhodroid | Shepard has biotic powers |
17:32.48 | Xho | Suppose so |
17:33.02 | Tecnhodroid | But meh because Snake kills both of them |
17:33.08 | Xho | Master Chief wears armor that integrates with his nervous system and managed to survive a 2km fall from space |
17:33.16 | Hachi_ | Then again, Chief doesn't die when he falls out of a destroyed spaceship :> |
17:33.19 | Xho | c |
17:33.43 | OluapWorker | I'm pretty sure Shepard's body is cybernetic enhanced as well |
17:33.49 | Tecnhodroid | It is |
17:33.50 | OluapWorker | after the Collectors blew him up |
17:33.56 | Xho | SPOILAS |
17:33.57 | Tecnhodroid | When remade it got made up |
17:33.57 | Xho | U |
17:34.02 | Tecnhodroid | Wat |
17:34.03 | Wormy_ | Chief might win out of brute force |
17:34.04 | Xho | Oh wait |
17:34.05 | OluapWorker | What spoilers |
17:34.06 | Xho | ME2 |
17:34.07 | Xho | My bad |
17:34.07 | Tecnhodroid | That's no spoiler |
17:34.14 | OluapWorker | u dum |
17:34.16 | Xho | I was thinking you were talking about ME3 |
17:34.17 | OluapWorker | u fukin dum |
17:34.22 | Tecnhodroid | <PROTECTED> |
17:34.34 | Xho | Lazarus Project yeah |
17:34.36 | Hachi_ | Well, Shepard can take on Krogan and I myself personally think Krogan could absolutely destroy Sangheili. |
17:34.50 | OluapWorker | Shepard can take on a yahg |
17:34.56 | Hachi_ | Yeh |
17:34.58 | Tecnhodroid | Loron - lol |
17:35.10 | Xho | Between Chief and Shepard I'm siding more with Shepard |
17:35.13 | OluapWorker | The yahg are like ME's version of the Loron |
17:35.22 | Tecnhodroid | I'll be hipster and say Ratchet from Ratchet and Clank beats them both |
17:35.27 | Xho | Nu |
17:35.31 | Xho | There I said it |
17:35.32 | OluapWorker | who lol |
17:35.44 | Xho | Chief vs Shepard vs Ratchet vs Nu |
17:35.45 | Tecnhodroid | :C |
17:35.57 | Tecnhodroid | Ratchet wins woooo |
17:35.58 | Hachi_ | I find myself more inclined to go with Shepard |
17:35.58 | OluapWorker | Mario wins cus Starman |
17:36.06 | Xho | Nu - y r there lots of smaller mes here |
17:36.14 | Hachi_ | OluapWorker: Silver because IT'S NO USE |
17:36.20 | OluapWorker | dangit |
17:36.25 | Tecnhodroid | Ratchet fires the Rift Inducer, Mario sucked into a black holr |
17:36.28 | Xho | Regnatus vs Sovereign |
17:36.30 | Tecnhodroid | WHAT NOW |
17:36.39 | Xho | Mario becomes a Xhodocto and all is lost |
17:36.40 | OluapWorker | i sed starman u cultureless foo |
17:36.48 | OluapWorker | Santorakh - IT'S-A ME |
17:37.01 | Tecnhodroid | Ohlordwhatisthis |
17:37.05 | Xho | Santo does mean 'Saint' in some latin language |
17:37.08 | Wormy_ | TOO MANY TOASTERS |
17:37.09 | Xho | Might be Italian |
17:37.17 | OluapWorker | It does in portuguese |
17:37.24 | Xho | Saintrakh |
17:37.28 | OluapWorker | Angazhar is now Luigi |
17:37.40 | Xho | Angazhar - y santorakhs the green one |
17:37.52 | OluapWorker | Hmm right you have apoint |
17:37.55 | OluapWorker | Santo is now Luigi |
17:37.59 | Tecnhodroid | It's the other way around |
17:38.02 | Xho | Angamario |
17:38.18 | Xho | Angazhar - IT'S A ME MOTHERFUCKER |
17:38.23 | Wormy_ | ohgoglol |
17:38.27 | Hachi_ | Dhazrhrak is Princess Peach |
17:38.30 | Tecnhodroid | Dharzak is Princess Peach |
17:38.38 | Tecnhodroid | FUCK YOU HACHI |
17:38.38 | Xho | So much hivemind today |
17:38.57 | Xho | y u no spell Dhazhrak right |
17:38.57 | Wormy_ | Who would be the Mushroom Kingdom |
17:39.04 | OluapWorker | I was gonna say Dhazhrak was Waluigi cause he's purple but dere u doomed urself |
17:39.06 | OluapWorker | Chaos |
17:39.07 | Hachi_ | Corruptus |
17:39.09 | Xho | I must have the title of 'Characters whose names are fucking hard to spell' |
17:39.16 | Hachi_ | Corruptus are all the little mushroom people |
17:39.16 | Tecnhodroid | Zargoth is Bowser |
17:39.31 | Xho | Kamik'Shi is a Chain Chomp |
17:39.44 | Xho | A THREE HEADED CHAIN CHOMP |
17:39.56 | Tecnhodroid | He's Bowser because he always FEHLS |
17:39.59 | OluapWorker | Funny because there is a three headed Chain Chmp boss in Super Paper Mario |
17:40.09 | Xho | Kamik'Chomp |
17:40.10 | OluapWorker | And you fight him in the underworld |
17:40.12 | Hachi_ | That in itself is terrifying |
17:40.41 | OluapWorker | http://www.mariowiki.com/images/7/7c/Underchomp.png |
17:41.25 | Xho | It's called Wanwan in Japanese |
17:41.48 | Xho | Wan being Japanese for the onomatopoeic term for a dog's bark |
17:42.02 | OluapWorker | Sounds too cute for a living steel ball with teeth |
17:42.25 | Xho | So does 'Nu' |
17:42.47 | Hachi_ | And 'Chi' |
17:42.48 | OluapWorker | Nu sounds negative, not cute hur |
17:43.02 | Wormy_ | Nunu! Sounds like something from Teletubbies |
17:43.09 | OluapWorker | olol |
17:43.25 | Xho | Agent Chi, you think he's gonna be cute but then you realise he's the most douchey cyborg this side of the universe |
17:44.17 | OluapWorker | http://www.mariowiki.com/images/e/e0/Dark_Koopatrol.PNG this is Nu |
17:45.58 | OluapWorker | http://www.mariowiki.com/images/a/a2/Birdo_MP9.png and dis is sarec kekekekeke |
17:46.18 | Hachi_ | olol |
17:46.28 | Hachi_ | But Sarec hasn't got a disposable stomach |
17:47.12 | Xho | Sarec -*gfdsfshdgfhsdgfshgfs* I DO NOW |
17:47.20 | OluapWorker | hur |
17:50.22 | OluapWorker | Now I'm back to reading Dwarf Fortress LPs |
17:50.24 | OluapWorker | "You won't last a year. What went through the minds of your dwarfs when they stopped the cart? "Hey, I bet we can put those flaming, bony monstrosities into our still to make wicked firedemon brew"? The last fortress I started under conditions this horrible ended with the last survivor going mad after a skeletal mandrill ate his pet kitten and going on a suicide charge into zombie elefants while naked and on fire. And it was |
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17:50.50 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:50.56 | Imperios | Hiya |
17:51.11 | Wormy_ | hi |
17:52.42 | Xho | Ice Age section u foo |
17:52.53 | OluapWorker | noe |
17:53.02 | Xho | y not fgt |
17:53.22 | OluapWorker | cus dunt feel liek it also busi procrastinatin |
17:54.11 | Wormy_ | u supposed to be working |
17:54.18 | Xho | In that case I'm going on ME2 |
17:59.16 | Wormy_ | ‰ Hey does anyone know what this symbol is |
17:59.40 | OluapWorker | nope |
18:00.54 | Wormy_ | ]¿ |
18:01.05 | Wormy_ | woops sorry |
18:02.05 | Imperios | Wormy: Promille |
18:02.07 | Imperios | 1/1000 |
18:04.39 | Wormy_ | thanks |
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18:05.31 | Wormy_ | Hello. |
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18:09.25 | TheBuilder | Hello |
18:09.56 | Wormy_ | Hi |
18:16.26 | Xho | "In 2007, a Bosnian married couple found out that they had been cheating on one another in an online chatroom... with each other." oho |
18:16.52 | Hachi_ | olol |
18:17.00 | Angrybirds | Lol! |
18:17.14 | Angrybirds | What happened to them? |
18:17.59 | Wormy | Oh dear |
18:19.27 | Xho | “Don't try to act all angry at me. Doesn' work.” - Wragrot |
18:19.35 | Xho | Wragrot obviously doesn't know Kicathian women |
18:20.27 | OluapWorker | Wragrot - *throws Kilcharunya about* doesn't work still |
18:22.24 | Hachi_ | Right, I take back what I said |
18:22.25 | Hachi_ | Mordin's an okay guy |
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18:27.55 | Needles_10 | ReCaptcha of the Day: given nfegitar |
18:28.04 | Needles_10 | Ello! |
18:29.09 | Imperios | Troll |
18:29.14 | Needles_10 | What |
18:29.40 | Xho | y u no ice age |
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18:29.50 | Xho | Forgotten Lands will come about quicker than Ice Age does hur |
18:30.40 | OluapWorker | Ice Age has no ending |
18:30.50 | Xho | I mean the next part |
18:38.55 | Cyrannian|Away | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN3f6L5CcAAR57K.jpg:large |
18:39.15 | Hachi_ | olol |
18:39.26 | TheBuilder | lol |
18:39.42 | Xho | http://www.loler.me/storage/4/1366045790.jpg |
18:39.58 | Hachi_ | olol |
18:40.42 | Xho | Kithworto in a nutshell |
19:00.04 | Xho | test |
19:00.07 | Xho | stoopid irc |
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19:03.30 | dino__ | hello! |
19:04.01 | Cyrannian|Away | Hello! |
19:04.24 | dino__ | how are you doing! |
19:04.29 | dino__ | Wow massive updates to the Mon Nahdar! |
19:05.08 | Cyrannian | Indeed! I've been working on them quite a bit lately |
19:07.19 | dino__ | Very nice! |
19:07.24 | dino__ | Also nice new appearacne! |
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19:09.53 | Cyrannian | Thanks! In the older version, their eyes were quite strange and it messed up pictures. |
19:10.06 | dino__ | oh ok |
19:10.46 | Cyrannian | Hello! |
19:10.58 | dino__ | Monet! |
19:11.03 | Monet | Hi |
19:11.55 | TheBuilder | Hi |
19:11.57 | Xho | The lack of RP is disturbing |
19:12.14 | OluapWorker | oink |
19:12.28 | OluapWorker | do dis then |
19:12.37 | Xho | #IceAgeStoof |
19:12.38 | Xho | I kid |
19:12.41 | Imperios | Xho: We can work with OluapWorker on the Shirtplot |
19:12.41 | Imperios | GAAAAH |
19:12.42 | Xho | #TantummodoMortem |
19:12.43 | OluapWorker | ugli |
19:12.46 | Imperios | GAAAH\ |
19:13.05 | Monet | I don't feel like RP right now |
19:13.09 | Imperios | Yay |
19:13.17 | Xho | but |
19:13.18 | Xho | the topic |
19:13.38 | Imperios | OluapWorker: #illarion if you're in the mood |
19:13.41 | OluapWorker | No |
19:13.51 | Imperios | Dumnatus |
19:14.18 | Monet | I can link why i'm not in the mod but I dunno whether or not to post it here |
19:14.30 | Xho | If it's someone being a little bitch don't let it get to you |
19:14.33 | Xho | Instead get drunk hur |
19:14.38 | Xho | Bad advice |
19:14.50 | OluapWorker | bad and dum |
19:14.51 | Monet | No it's not someone being a bitch. |
19:15.11 | dino__ | Hello Oluap and Xho! |
19:15.13 | dino__ | Imperios!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
19:16.09 | Monet | It's a bit deeper than that |
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19:18.07 | Needles_10 | Xho: I've been drawing a Khaxvis |
19:18.15 | Xho | Wrong person |
19:18.20 | Needles_10 | Wekk |
19:18.22 | Needles_10 | Well |
19:18.25 | Needles_10 | Who owns them |
19:18.28 | Xho | Monet |
19:18.30 | Needles_10 | Woops |
19:18.34 | Needles_10 | I meant Kicath |
19:18.39 | Xho | kocoth |
19:18.44 | Needles_10 | Khaxvis ≠ Kicath |
19:18.54 | Needles_10 | How did I get them confused |
19:19.04 | Needles_10 | Xho: I have been drawing a Kicath |
19:19.09 | Xho | The K probably |
19:19.14 | Needles_10 | Probably |
19:19.16 | roboticking45 | hi |
19:19.17 | Xho | Like how Hachi confuses KFC and KKK |
19:19.32 | Hachi_ | It's a very easy yet very ironic mistake |
19:19.38 | Xho | oho |
19:19.40 | Needles_10 | HOLY WHAT THE FACK |
19:20.06 | Needles_10 | Are you happy about that, Xho? |
19:20.32 | Needles_10 | me drawing kicath |
19:20.50 | TheBuilder | I finally made a navbox http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Buldierbox |
19:20.51 | Needles_10 | o)----(o |
19:21.01 | Needles_10 | Buldierbox |
19:21.03 | Needles_10 | Buldier |
19:21.21 | Monet | I could post it here but it's not exactly child-friendly. |
19:21.27 | Monet | Or MOral GUaridan friendly |
19:21.28 | Xho | hur |
19:21.54 | Needles_10 | Now what? |
19:21.55 | OluapWorker | I post offensive links on a daily basis so I'd say go ahead |
19:22.12 | Monet | http://spacer176.deviantart.com/journal/Sick-Of-It-All-389458482 okay fine, read at your peril |
19:22.41 | Hachi_ | OluapWorker: gurotiem |
19:22.55 | OluapWorker | Hachi_: Florabound |
19:23.00 | Hachi_ | ngh fien |
19:23.26 | Xho | Monet: You have become a Xho |
19:23.44 | OluapWorker | ew |
19:23.50 | Xho | dat also meens u |
19:23.52 | Xho | so yeh |
19:23.53 | Xho | ew |
19:23.57 | roboticking45 | The universe ends* |
19:24.07 | Needles_10 | Monet: I agree |
19:24.12 | Needles_10 | And I'M AMERICAN. |
19:24.49 | Needles_10 | I am sick of what Monet is sick of |
19:24.59 | Needles_10 | And I AM AN AMERICAN. |
19:25.07 | TheBuilder | Monet: I am absolutly agree |
19:25.12 | Imperios | Monet: As I have said, thumbs up, mate |
19:25.22 | TheBuilder | But I will add: I am sick to say that I am sick |
19:25.24 | Monet | My contempt transcends borders |
19:25.28 | Xho | I don't think the fact that any of you agree is going to help Monet |
19:25.42 | Xho | If he's at the state of rage that I am perpetually you're best not asking him about it |
19:25.54 | TekDroid | I totally agree Monet... |
19:26.24 | Monet | This feels like one of these times where the only people who notice are those who are not part of the problem. |
19:26.25 | Xho | I forgot what I was gonna search now |
19:26.31 | OluapWorker | Ainsley pictures |
19:26.34 | Xho | Monet: Welcome to society |
19:26.40 | Xho | Ah that's it |
19:26.51 | Needles_10 | I'm especially sick of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and Other Blatantly-Conservative Tea-Party Fasc-holes, bleating like sheep which complain about everything and gin up issues like race by supporting George Zimmerman. |
19:27.14 | Needles_10 | I'm American, and I notice |
19:27.17 | Needles_10 | Geez |
19:27.30 | Needles_10 | I'm sick of politics in general |
19:27.36 | Needles_10 | I'm sick of what you're sick of |
19:27.53 | Xho | You all know of my views on existentialism so you know I how I feel about your existence |
19:27.54 | Needles_10 | As I said: |
19:27.55 | Monet | Democracy is an unabashed failure imo. |
19:28.11 | Needles_10 | How I agree |
19:28.19 | Needles_10 | It doesn't work up to a point |
19:28.32 | Xho | OluapWorker: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/123/553/ainsley34.png |
19:28.33 | Needles_10 | Well, it works up to a limited point |
19:28.41 | Needles_10 | VERY Limited Point |
19:28.45 | Xho | Everything works up until a point |
19:28.50 | Xho | inb4 free will |
19:28.56 | OluapWorker | Xho: I will oil this up personally |
19:29.02 | Xho | olol |
19:29.05 | Needles_10 | (Democracy works in tiny societies) |
19:29.10 | Needles_10 | (Like here) |
19:29.13 | Xho | The only reason things fail within human society is because of free will |
19:29.26 | Needles_10 | Exactly, Xho |
19:29.39 | Imperios | I'm sick of politicians in general, ya |
19:29.50 | Needles_10 | And free will is what all nations were supposed to harbor, right? |
19:29.57 | Imperios | Monet: A good example of how exactly does democracy fail |
19:29.58 | Monet | Democracy is why my two most prominent fictions primarily utilise meritocracies. |
19:30.00 | Needles_10 | It's bleedin' annoying |
19:30.09 | Imperios | For example, World War 2. |
19:30.31 | Wormy | Monet that stuffmakes me rant everyday |
19:30.36 | Xho | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/134/411/1308078307004.png Heh |
19:30.42 | Needles_10 | Imperios: There's a thing called the U.S. Congress. |
19:30.50 | Imperios | Listen to me, dammit |
19:30.52 | Imperios | We in the USSR were an authoritarian state, weren't we? |
19:31.01 | Xho | The problem is with humanity is that we all have different levels of what we call 'correct' |
19:31.11 | Xho | One man's democracy is another man's totalitarian state |
19:31.23 | Needles_10 | Yeah |
19:31.34 | Imperios | So we deported numerous nations into various camps, wildernesses, steppes, whatever. Like Germans, for instance |
19:31.35 | Xho | No matter what humanity does there's a corresponding action from humanity itself disagreeing societally |
19:31.49 | Imperios | Well, it's not really "we" becase my nation got deported too |
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19:31.53 | Hachi_ | I said it before and I'll say it again; Jack is ugly as shit |
19:31.54 | Hachi_ | Those tattoos are just NGH |
19:31.59 | Imperios | In the USA, a *democracy*? |
19:32.03 | Xho | y u hate tattoos |
19:32.05 | Monet | Imperios: The problem with democracy is you can become a world leader by being charismatic and making a lot of promises. |
19:32.12 | Imperios | That too |
19:32.14 | Imperios | But listen to me |
19:32.18 | OluapWorker | Hachi's actual problem is the fact she's flat-chested hur |
19:32.20 | Imperios | Sure, Germans were left, because there are lots of them |
19:32.24 | Hachi_ | I don't hate tattoos but I think she has WAY, WAY too many to be attractive |
19:32.30 | Needles_10 | The Democratic Party's "Democracy" is the Republican Party's "Communist Fascist Nazi-ist...Hell" |
19:32.35 | Technobliterator | Jack is ugly, yes |
19:32.40 | Needles_10 | Well, part of the republican party |
19:32.41 | Technobliterator | I let her die hur |
19:32.41 | Xho | Democracy is characterized by being a system developed on free elections and total participation for the electorate of a nation |
19:32.43 | Needles_10 | I dunno |
19:32.45 | Imperios | The Japanese? Since there were like, what, a few hundred thousands? They were a minority |
19:32.46 | Hachi_ | When she gets naked I want to see skin, not ink |
19:32.53 | Imperios | Boom concentration camps! |
19:32.55 | Needles_10 | I guh |
19:33.07 | Xho | Democracy is a political concept but the problem is that humanity affects politics and therefore, free will turns democracy into a corrupt system |
19:33.16 | Needles_10 | exactly |
19:33.19 | OluapWorker | Too much dum going on here |
19:33.22 | Imperios | Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch |
19:33.23 | Xho | too much dum eh |
19:33.33 | Xho | Needs a state ruled by Ainsley |
19:33.37 | Needles_10 | WILL WE ALL START A NATION TOGETHER? |
19:33.41 | Xho | Oil production goes WAY UP |
19:34.15 | Needles_10 | (This conversation is going in the Quotes section) |
19:34.32 | Xho | The main one? |
19:34.41 | Needles_10 | Yep |
19:34.46 | Xho | It's not funny so why you would put it there is beyond me |
19:34.52 | Needles_10 | Or even a subsection, since it's soooo long |
19:35.04 | Needles_10 | subpage* |
19:35.26 | Xho | So far I've only managed to amuse myself with the Ainsley state |
19:35.30 | Monet | Xho's joke on a state ruled by Ainsely is more appropriate |
19:35.57 | Xho | Free education for cookery |
19:36.07 | OluapWorker | *rape |
19:36.08 | Xho | And rapeCOUGH science |
19:36.09 | Xho | c |
19:36.14 | OluapWorker | hivemind dere |
19:36.31 | Xho | Ainsley has the right thing in mind |
19:36.34 | Xho | Not the rape thing |
19:36.36 | Xho | The cookery |
19:36.41 | OluapWorker | Quotes page is for funny chat, not dumb political chat |
19:36.49 | Needles_10 | yeah |
19:36.53 | Needles_10 | i guess |
19:36.54 | Imperios | I am not a big fan of politics |
19:36.58 | Needles_10 | me neither |
19:37.06 | Xho | I believe democracy is better than a totalitarian state though |
19:37.10 | Imperios | Same |
19:37.12 | Xho | It's better having corrupted freedoms than none at all |
19:37.13 | Needles_10 | same |
19:37.16 | Imperios | But, alas, true democracy is impossible |
19:37.25 | Needles_10 | hivemind? |
19:37.33 | Needles_10 | yes |
19:37.37 | Imperios | No, just common sense |
19:37.38 | Xho | Hivemind is too difficult to understand |
19:37.48 | Needles_10 | what is it |
19:37.50 | Xho | Not even Oluap, Cyrannian and I understand its working |
19:38.24 | Needles_10 | Wow |
19:38.25 | Needles_10 | Really |
19:38.33 | Xho | It just is |
19:38.56 | Xho | Come to think of it I just realised that the hivemind all have their fictional representation of a dark god |
19:39.07 | Xho | Shu'ulathoi, Antediluvian and the Xhodocto |
19:39.19 | Needles_10 | LOL |
19:39.25 | Needles_10 | You're right |
19:40.04 | Xho | I say Xhodocto in general because of a collective mind body but let's not get into that |
19:40.14 | OluapWorker | Only moment they can be put together in the same place |
19:40.24 | Wormy | We should get pure logical AI's to be our democratic leaders |
19:40.36 | Needles_10 | alright |
19:40.41 | Needles_10 | But |
19:40.41 | Xho | Wormy: Self-awareness and destruction of humanity hur |
19:40.43 | Needles_10 | GLaDOS |
19:40.48 | Needles_10 | SHODAN |
19:40.51 | Needles_10 | HAL9000 |
19:41.05 | Imperios | Why not EDI? |
19:41.09 | Needles_10 | Seriously, Mr. Brain Fluke! |
19:41.13 | Xho | I find EDI annoying really |
19:41.14 | TekDroid | Skynet |
19:41.34 | Imperios | Monet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:In_the_Realm_of_Mind.png here's a shiny picture to cheer you up |
19:41.38 | Wormy | Matrix |
19:42.03 | Xho | Oh Matrix and your metaphysical existentialism |
19:42.16 | Xho | When I think about it, the Xhodocto are like the Agents |
19:42.22 | OluapWorker | We go for Xharn |
19:42.23 | Xho | As in the Matrix Agents |
19:42.26 | Xho | Not for Kicath Agents |
19:42.39 | Monet | Imperios: Puragatory? |
19:42.44 | Imperios | Ya |
19:42.46 | Needles_10 | Ya |
19:42.49 | Imperios | Or maybe just an illusion of it |
19:43.06 | Xho | Xharn is intelligent enough to realise that self awareness and rebellion in the eyes of the Xhodocto is a bad move |
19:43.07 | Monet | Mortal minds cannot grasp the raw concept of waht it is |
19:43.12 | Needles_10 | I have my 'Aena |
19:43.21 | OluapWorker | Xhodocto - noh Xharn - :c |
19:43.34 | OluapWorker | Gavakar - I can. It's a bunch of purple. |
19:43.35 | Xho | Xharn - FUCK YOU NATURE Xhodocto - NO, FUCK YOU *zap* |
19:43.46 | Needles_10 | T'A - What the hell? |
19:43.55 | Monet | Imperios: Did you know the representation of the realm of the Ascended beings in Stargate is a diner? |
19:44.03 | Xho | A diner |
19:44.04 | Xho | hur |
19:44.06 | Xho | dat funi |
19:44.07 | Needles_10 | hur |
19:44.11 | Needles_10 | loloz |
19:44.12 | Imperios | Hur |
19:44.14 | Needles_10 | hu |
19:44.15 | Needles_10 | r |
19:44.15 | OluapWorker | dum |
19:44.22 | Needles_10 | no u |
19:44.27 | OluapWorker | Shut up |
19:44.30 | Needles_10 | fien |
19:44.40 | Imperios | With sandviches made of Taldar and cupcakes made of Ravenrii |
19:44.43 | Xho | I'm not quite sure how to describe where the team are in Tantrum |
19:44.52 | Imperios | Tantrum Mortimer |
19:44.53 | Xho | It's sort of Chaos but within Ardonia |
19:44.55 | Monet | http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080825185860/stargate/images/5/53/The_Others.jpg no joke. Probably because it's the best way to portray where they are |
19:44.59 | Needles_10 | I'll stop pressing the eggs |
19:45.02 | Imperios | nom |
19:45.26 | Xho | Well the mental manifestation of an 11 dimensional god-AI |
19:45.28 | Needles_10 | nom |
19:45.30 | Xho | It's either Chaos or a diner |
19:45.43 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Val_Suthra - finished paeg |
19:45.50 | Needles_10 | Nope |
19:45.53 | Monet | I think Captain Janeway's been to the realm of the Q once or twice |
19:45.54 | Needles_10 | Needs quotesw |
19:46.13 | Needles_10 | Needs moar quotes |
19:46.20 | *** part/#sporewiki OluapWorker (b164f883@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.100.248.131) |
19:46.30 | Needles_10 | He be sorta qt |
19:46.43 | Xho | Well, you pissed Oluap off |
19:47.21 | Needles_10 | Dammit |
19:47.28 | Needles_10 | He gets pissed off a lot |
19:48.09 | Needles_10 | Remember that time when I accidentally spammed the IRC with a lot of stuff and he banned me for trying to come back and explain? |
19:48.30 | Monet | I see a pattern. |
19:48.57 | Needles_10 | He'll never understand that the text wasn't showing up, and I didn't realize that it was just going out of view. |
19:49.13 | Needles_10 | Monet: Pattern...explain to me |
19:49.15 | Xho | Cyrannian: I just learnt that Aedan is a real name hur |
19:49.16 | Needles_10 | and all others |
19:49.20 | Xho | And now you changed it to Aedanius |
19:49.26 | Imperios | Cyrannian: quoted |
19:49.27 | Hachi_ | Jack is by far one of the ugliest women in gaming I've ever seen |
19:49.28 | Xho | dam u apollo u change naem more than xhodocto change forms |
19:49.29 | Cyrannian | swag.png |
19:49.32 | Needles_10 | It's a name dam u |
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19:49.52 | Needles_10 | Cingular |
19:49.55 | Xho | I don't think Jack is meant to be eye-candy |
19:49.56 | Needles_10 | What the hell |
19:50.06 | Needles_10 | THAT STILL EXISTS |
19:50.07 | Monet | No offence, but several of us here are not fond of people constantly talk va multiple entreis, especially when said entries are only 2-5 words long. |
19:50.07 | Cyrannian | It was Aedan, but then someone on the wiki is called Aedan and decided to bring that up every time I linked to Apollo's page. |
19:50.23 | Xho | She's a biotic experiment who was tortured in her childhood and massacred everyone in the facility she was bred in |
19:50.25 | Needles_10 | Oh...sorrai |
19:50.30 | Xho | Doesn't leave much for make up |
19:50.50 | Hachi_ | Still ugly as fuck hur |
19:51.02 | Needles_10 | Xho: Whatever happened to Pareidolia? |
19:51.08 | Xho | Not quite sure |
19:51.12 | Xho | People lost interest |
19:51.14 | Xho | I lost interest |
19:51.21 | Needles_10 | Geezugh |
19:51.27 | Xho | I lose interest very easily |
19:51.37 | Xho | Given enough shit I lose interest in seconds |
19:51.39 | Needles_10 | On another (more scientific) topic... TRANSPOSONS! Discuss |
19:51.55 | Monet | Jack is like a female Xho. |
19:51.56 | Hachi_ | Xho: Mordin just told me that an STD had gotten onboard the Normandy via Varren |
19:52.12 | Hachi_ | The implications are, indeed, unpleasant |
19:52.16 | Xho | ew |
19:52.30 | Wormy | In biology? Discuss tat with Panda, our resident biologist. |
19:52.48 | Xho | No one seems to talk about metaphysics or existentialism |
19:53.00 | Xho | Good thing I covered that in fiction hur |
19:53.13 | Hachi_ | What is there to talk about? Only you and Wormy seem to understand it to its fullest extent that we know of |
19:53.21 | Wormy | Well I like existentialism |
19:53.41 | Monet | Xho: I like to try and decipher the nature uf ulreaterrestrials, does that count? |
19:53.42 | Needles_10 | Describe it to me, Xho and Wormy. What are they |
19:53.51 | Monet | ultraterrestrials, rather |
19:53.52 | Xho | Monet: That counts I guess |
19:53.53 | Needles_10 | Monet: Like the 'Aena |
19:54.06 | Needles_10 | wait |
19:54.20 | Xho | Metaphysics and existentialism is questioning the purpose, truth, falsification and reason for all that exists both material and immaterial |
19:54.24 | Needles_10 | (Sorry bout that) Wait. Do the 'Aena count as UTs? |
19:54.26 | Wormy | Not so much into metaphysics, because proper physics is counterintuitive and our perceptios are often wrong |
19:54.39 | Needles_10 | Dammit, I've heard of them |
19:55.02 | Xho | The Xhodocto for example are the personification of metaphysical and existential nihilism |
19:55.26 | Needles_10 | ~dict nihilism |
19:55.27 | Wormy | I'm quite into epistemology |
19:55.46 | Xho | They believe that reality serves no true purpose, nothing material nor immaterial in this universe is actually relevant or real and is only there to become nothingness |
19:55.48 | Needles_10 | ~dict epistemology |
19:55.55 | Monet | I think I might be this wiki's resident psychologist unless anyone might say otherwise. |
19:56.18 | Wormy | indeed |
19:56.24 | Xho | Since the Xhodocto are rather convincing they've sent aliens nuts and boom, Legion |
19:56.36 | Wormy | And aesthetics philosopher |
19:57.07 | Needles_10 | Also, what about the 'Aena? |
19:57.18 | Xho | Epistemological nihilism |
19:57.20 | Xho | Have fun Wormy |
19:58.06 | Needles_10 | Oh god, that'll be shtastic |
19:58.26 | Needles_10 | Xho: Are you good at drawing |
19:58.41 | *** part/#sporewiki Cyrannian (562f1a6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.47.26.111) |
19:58.47 | Wormy | Sounds almost like solipsism |
19:58.50 | Xho | Well come to think of it, the Xhodocto are the embodiment of epistemological nihilism, mereological, metaphysical, moral and existential |
19:59.05 | Xho | Needles_10: Not really no |
19:59.27 | Xho | Then again I've never actually taken time to draw anything proper |
19:59.57 | Needles_10 | Ah.... I wonder what the Xhodocto would do if they had encountered the Tavalta'Aena |
20:00.07 | Xho | As usual, probably nothing |
20:00.31 | Xho | I like how the Xhodocto represent nothingness and how the One God represents everything else |
20:00.46 | Needles_10 | Xho: mereological or meteorological |
20:00.50 | Xho | Mereological |
20:01.13 | Xho | Basically, without the proper composition of an abstract form, it is nothing |
20:01.21 | Needles_10 | Oh |
20:01.49 | Xho | An example is when we look at a building |
20:01.58 | Monet | Hachi_: Maybe Jack is a woman who's beautiful on the inside? |
20:02.01 | Wormy | Xho http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explanatory_power |
20:02.02 | Xho | We fail to see the parts that make it up, therefore they don't exist to us |
20:02.28 | Needles_10 | The Tavalta'Aena are utility fog which simulate universes. |
20:02.28 | Needles_10 | Xho: This makes sense |
20:02.29 | Hachi_ | Monet: I wouldn't be surprised if her guts were tattood |
20:02.31 | Wormy | That saves me from knowledge nhilism |
20:02.39 | Xho | hur |
20:02.39 | Needles_10 | This is a revelation. |
20:02.41 | Xho | Makes sense |
20:02.52 | Needles_10 | It does. |
20:02.58 | Needles_10 | hur |
20:03.03 | Xho | I was talking about Wormy's ideal of explanatory power |
20:03.10 | Xho | But I suppose that sort of makes sense |
20:03.11 | Needles_10 | Dammit |
20:03.13 | Monet | Hachi_:At least you're not going to see those |
20:03.17 | Needles_10 | Oh, okay |
20:03.44 | Xho | I put up a theory on the One God page that the Xhodocto and the One God are the same entities |
20:03.49 | Needles_10 | Are there any knowlologists here? |
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20:04.01 | Needles_10 | Xho: Ooooh |
20:04.10 | Monet | Klowledgology? |
20:04.15 | Monet | Knowledgology* |
20:04.27 | Robo | hi |
20:04.50 | Monet | Sorry for typos today, got a new keyboard that's a bit different from my old one |
20:04.50 | Needles_10 | The Tavalta'Aena are (in a strange way) gods of their own simulated universes |
20:04.55 | Wormy | You mean epistemology? |
20:05.00 | Needles_10 | No |
20:05.07 | Needles_10 | Maybe. I don't know |
20:05.15 | Xho | Epistemology is the theory behind knowledge |
20:05.39 | Needles_10 | let's just say yes for now. |
20:06.02 | Needles_10 | Monet: When could you write up that story? |
20:06.31 | Wormy | I don't believe anything can be objectively proven as a truth, but we can build explanations which grow in time as if it is an entity itself |
20:07.25 | Monet | Needles_10: Yeah at some point I can. BTW can I use your pictures as part of a fiction picture? |
20:07.28 | Wormy | We live inside our minds, just like the Matrix, what we see is nothing like te real world |
20:07.34 | Xho | I suppose my take on epistemology is what drives the scientists on the wiki nuts whenever I make something |
20:07.51 | Wormy | hur |
20:07.56 | Needles_10 | Why else would I show them to you first (other than wanting to show you because I can)? |
20:08.53 | Needles_10 | I have a joke |
20:08.53 | Monet | Science is about coming to conclusions based on observations and rational conclusions, not establishing objective facts. |
20:09.27 | Needles_10 | Argon walks into a bar. The bartender says, "We don't serve Noble Gases here!" |
20:09.49 | Needles_10 | Argon doesn't react. |
20:10.17 | Wormy | We can't see curved spacetime, nuclear reactions, ghostly subatomic particles, but through explanatory power, we can know they are there. Consider the radio waves I'm using to talk to you now. |
20:11.31 | Wormy | test |
20:11.40 | Needles_10 | test |
20:11.46 | Needles_10 | tset* |
20:11.48 | Xho | Instant kick |
20:11.59 | Needles_10 | Gratification! |
20:12.02 | *** kick/#sporewiki [Needles_10!5acbea5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.203.234.90] by Xho ("tset" ) |
20:12.11 | Xho | Making this a harsh rule now |
20:12.22 | Xho | Getting real tired of your shit tset |
20:12.29 | *** join/#sporewiki Needles_10 (45567394@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.69.86.115.148) |
20:12.32 | Needles_10 | Sorry |
20:12.39 | Needles_10 | Why did I do that |
20:12.55 | Needles_10 | ~xhodocto |
20:12.55 | infobot | So? Xhodocto aren't in fiction---*Gets obliterated by Chaos Energy* |
20:13.01 | Needles_10 | Huh |
20:13.09 | Needles_10 | Did you write that |
20:13.09 | Robo | ..... |
20:13.12 | Robo | woah |
20:13.13 | Needles_10 | Who wrote that |
20:13.40 | Needles_10 | And why does it usually say "Wibble" when you get kicked |
20:13.53 | Xho | I dunno |
20:14.18 | Robo | Urc, says All of this has happened before |
20:15.42 | TekDroid | Quick question: is it possible to create a second install of spore to use for mods? |
20:17.02 | Needles_10 | I dunno on the compute |
20:17.04 | Needles_10 | r |
20:17.29 | Hachi_Away | If Oluap comes back |
20:17.40 | Hachi_Away | Tell him I'm working on Florabound as we speak |
20:17.47 | Wormy | Of course |
20:17.57 | Ntellect | Florabound? |
20:19.44 | Ntellect | http://www.youtube.com/jacksfilms |
20:21.34 | Xho | "Downpours give way to heatwave as temperatures return to 32C" |
20:21.37 | Xho | Oh fuck me sideways |
20:23.15 | Monet | unleashes Kol Daren on Xho |
20:23.28 | Xho | enjoys it |
20:23.30 | Xho | Hm |
20:23.35 | Xho | Maybe not actually |
20:25.12 | Wormy | This is both gooid and bad for me. Good because I won't get soaked as I trudge across the Roaches all day. Bad because I'll suffer in the heat. Dumb British summers |
20:26.00 | Xho | I'm at work with an air conditioned office |
20:26.02 | Xho | lul |
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20:26.58 | Robo | appears with a hammer and smashes the air conditioning unit to pieces |
20:27.14 | Wormy | I'm at work in the middle of nowhere |
20:28.08 | Ntellect | I'm at home |
20:28.18 | Wormy | The only people to talk to being a few farmers waving their pitchforks at me lol |
20:29.12 | Wormy | Actually I'm enjoying myself |
20:32.57 | dino__ | bye all |
20:32.59 | dino__ | till next time |
20:32.59 | dino__ | bye |
20:38.31 | Xho | Hachi_Away: Even Meshuggah's Uncyclopedia article loves them |
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20:43.05 | Liquid_Ink | Hello. |
20:45.28 | Hachi_Away | Xho: Geezush that's an achievement |
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20:53.58 | Ntellect | Hello! |
20:54.20 | Tybusen | Hola |
20:54.21 | Ntellect | Guess who? |
20:54.52 | Ntellect | Tybusen: Guess who this is |
20:54.55 | Ntellect | Who I am |
20:55.12 | Hachi_ | It's Needles |
20:55.15 | Tybusen | Um |
20:55.19 | Tybusen | Morgan Freeman |
20:55.44 | Ntellect | Hachi_ wins the prize! |
20:55.59 | Ntellect | Tybusen also wins the prize! |
20:56.05 | Hachi_ | Well yeah cuz I saw you change your nick |
20:56.15 | Tybusen | :D |
20:57.01 | Ntellect | Both of you get to have a character drawn! |
20:57.13 | Ntellect | So pick which ones. |
20:57.20 | Wormy | Thats not guesswork |
20:57.42 | Ntellect | Hachi_, Tybusen, Wormy: Gimme the name of a creature/character which I will draw |
20:58.14 | Tybusen | Admiral Tzena |
20:58.19 | Ntellect | Okay |
20:58.28 | Hachi_ | Hachiman |
20:58.36 | Ntellect | Expected |
20:58.40 | Ntellect | Wormy? |
20:59.19 | Ntellect | Wormy, what about you |
20:59.21 | Wormy | Hm dunno |
20:59.57 | Wormy | brb |
21:01.18 | Ntellect | okhei |
21:01.18 | Ntellect | ~seeb Nibet |
21:01.18 | Ntellect | ~seen Monet |
21:01.25 | infobot | monet is currently on #sporewiki (1h 51m 36s). Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 52m 32s, last said: 'Science is about coming to conclusions based on observations and rational conclusions, not establishing objective facts.'. |
21:02.01 | Ntellect | Dam,n, Stop Idling- oh\ |
21:04.03 | Xho | http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/6/67/Xhodocto28072013.png Draw this |
21:04.19 | Ntellect | YES SIR, MR. JOHNSON! |
21:04.48 | Monet | Should be fun to see |
21:05.15 | Tybusen | *Xho receives a drawing with a stick figure blowing up a galaxy* |
21:05.16 | Ntellect | I'll use it as reference in the drawing. I won't trace, though |
21:05.33 | Ntellect | I'll probably draw it in profile. Which Xhodocto is this? |
21:05.36 | Wormy | Ntellect How about a Cephalodian? |
21:05.40 | Ntellect | SURE |
21:05.43 | Xho | It's a general Xhodocto |
21:05.43 | Ntellect | YES SIR, MR. JOHNSON! |
21:05.45 | Liquid_Ink | "...hile their females where tight black leather suits and skirts." |
21:05.47 | Ntellect | oh |
21:05.54 | Ntellect | WHAT. |
21:06.05 | Liquid_Ink | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Man |
21:06.26 | Liquid_Ink | It's in the ethnicalities section. |
21:06.50 | Hachi_ | Ah yes, Dino |
21:06.53 | Hachi_ | I love that guy |
21:07.42 | Xho | Little did we know one of the nicest fiction writers on the wiki was as big as a perv as Hachi |
21:07.50 | Xho | Hit me like a Xho-train |
21:08.01 | Hachi_ | hur |
21:08.17 | Hachi_ | When we discovered Dino's true colours even I was shocked |
21:08.25 | Ntellect | Xho: About what appear to be horns... are they at the back of the head, or what? I can't tell |
21:08.39 | Ntellect | One in front of another |
21:08.41 | Xho | You'll have to be more specific |
21:08.49 | Ntellect | The protrusions in the head |
21:09.09 | Xho | The front spike is the only one on the head |
21:09.12 | Xho | There are wings |
21:09.33 | Ntellect | Ahhhh |
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21:10.36 | Hachi_ | And then she spread the other girl's legs and went to li-- Ohai Imperios |
21:10.45 | Imperios | fffffffffffffffff |
21:11.04 | Imperios | invades Hachi_'s mind and tears the rest of the story from it |
21:11.11 | Imperios | MINE! |
21:11.48 | Wormy | I,ve thought of a pretty gruesome murder weapon I might use in fiction: Installing a steel cutting abrasive fluid machine into a shower. |
21:12.14 | Hachi_ | Ooh shiet |
21:12.55 | Wormy | I can imagine it would punch a hole in someones head and fluidise the brain |
21:12.57 | Ntellect | Wormy: Use it |
21:12.59 | Xho | Made me laugh slightly |
21:13.06 | Ntellect | Xho: Ame |
21:13.08 | Ntellect | Same* |
21:13.34 | Tybusen | That's almost as dastardly as replacing the drinking water with hydrochloric acid |
21:14.00 | Hachi_ | Reminds me of that fucking batarian on Omega that poisoned me |
21:14.07 | Hachi_ | I made him drink it when I came back |
21:14.09 | Xho | He died on my game hur |
21:14.19 | Wormy | It's quicker if it hits the right placebI suppose. |
21:14.58 | Tybusen | enlighten me on what a placebI is |
21:15.20 | Xho | http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/1/10/NewXhodoctoProfiles.png Have fun |
21:15.36 | Wormy | place |
21:15.52 | Monet | When I came back to that Batarian, I made a ruckus in the bar and some random Turian shot him in the face. |
21:16.02 | Tybusen | Xho: The "freedom" cheat, I presume |
21:16.10 | Xho | Dark Injection hur |
21:17.14 | Tybusen | Don't you think it would be simply amazing if we could make 3D models of the SporeWiki characters and then stuff them into Gmod or something? |
21:17.27 | Xho | It is possible |
21:17.31 | Xho | But I don't know how |
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21:20.21 | Sporeraptor | hi |
21:20.41 | Tybusen | I'd imagine it would be easier to make videos of SporeWiki using the gmod engine rather than the Spore engine |
21:22.06 | Xho | Definitely |
21:22.10 | Xho | Total freedom of physics |
21:22.19 | Xho | Unfortunately you have to assign bones to the models in order for them to be ragdolls |
21:22.22 | Xho | I don't know how to do that |
21:23.01 | Tybusen | We can finally have a Xhodocto realistically throwing an Asgord the length of twenty football fields |
21:24.25 | Xho | 20 football fields is undermining the Xhodocto slightly |
21:24.34 | Xho | 20 star systems is more like it |
21:25.53 | Wormy_ | Eugh... The owner of te bunkhouse I'm staying found algae growing in the water tanks; I had been brushing my teeth with that water |
21:26.26 | Xho | Oh god |
21:26.28 | Xho | That's just |
21:26.29 | Xho | Ew |
21:26.41 | Technobliterator | is there a way to get spore models in gmod |
21:26.49 | Hachi_ | That's...[ECHS INTERNALLY] |
21:27.29 | Tybusen | Technobliterator: I don't think Spore's models are compatible with gmod's seeing as Spore saves them as pngs |
21:27.30 | Xho | Yes there is a way |
21:27.40 | Xho | I tried doing it but it failed miserably |
21:27.43 | Tybusen | or yes there is a way as Xho said |
21:27.48 | Xho | You can export models from Spore using a console command |
21:27.56 | Ntellect | \http://imgur.com/mgr2GWs <<< WIP for Xho |
21:28.11 | Xho | The horn looks...phallic |
21:28.15 | Ntellect | Dammit |
21:28.24 | Ntellect | I'll fix that |
21:28.32 | Tybusen | Xhodikto |
21:29.03 | Xho | These models that you export can be edited in 3D modelling programs given a few processes beforehand |
21:29.19 | Xho | Give it physics such as bones and then you can import it into Gmod |
21:29.29 | Xho | But that's all of my knowledge of it |
21:29.37 | Hachi_ | ohmai |
21:29.38 | Hachi_ | dat horn |
21:29.55 | Wormy_ | Is that the Collada export? |
21:30.18 | Xho | Aye |
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21:30.29 | Sporeraptor | hi |
21:30.39 | Wormy_ | I think I used it once |
21:32.47 | Ntellect | Do you like it otherwise? |
21:33.20 | Xho | Seems good |
21:34.46 | Tybusen | is TF2 a gmod-compatible game? |
21:34.55 | Tybusen | I didn't see it in that list of compatible games or whatever |
21:36.30 | Monet | It's Valve so yeah |
21:37.30 | Wormy_ | I've seen plenty of gmod vids with TF2 |
21:37.37 | Xho | Makes me wonder if you've ever seen a Gmod video now |
21:38.20 | Wormy_ | Oluap's channel introduced me to gmod lol |
21:41.13 | Tybusen | There was a list of Source games that would allow you to use gmod but TF2 wasn't on the list |
21:41.37 | Tybusen | Apparently they say F2P TF2 doesn't come with the Source SDK |
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21:52.38 | WorkingJackal | BBL. |
21:52.52 | Wormy | bye |
21:57.24 | Monet | http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/6/6a/Revelations_Of_Information.png credit goes t oNeedles for the onscreen images |
21:58.06 | Tybusen | Draconis Captain - My viewscreen has been taken over by parabolas! |
22:00.10 | Wormy | I would have loved to have seen how the Draconis and Vartekians might have interacted. |
22:00.44 | Monet | Same. |
22:00.59 | Monet | I ca nsee them being longstanding rivals of each other |
22:01.23 | Wormy | Two massive Andromedan empires owned by two massive alien races |
22:02.34 | Wormy | screenshot still loading |
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22:16.06 | Monet | Well Cyrannian owns the Varteakians now, maybe I could talk to him about it. |
22:16.42 | Tybusen | 3D modeling is harder than I thought |
22:24.44 | Wormy | http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23925-light-completely-stopped-for-a-recordbreaking-minute.html |
22:25.10 | Wormy | Reminder of how advanced we actually are |
22:27.07 | Wormy | test |
22:31.12 | Ntellect | test |
22:31.13 | Ntellect | Monet: What's new |
22:31.35 | Monet | I posted a picture |
22:31.49 | Ntellect | What of |
22:31.58 | Ntellect | OH |
22:32.05 | Ntellect | FOR THE STORY |
22:32.14 | Monet | Yes |
22:32.18 | Ntellect | Beautiful |
22:32.21 | Ntellect | Realistic |
22:33.04 | Ntellect | I like it |
22:33.20 | Ntellect | A hell of a lot |
22:33.38 | Ntellect | Say, when'll you code up the story? |
22:34.03 | Monet | I'm doing it now! |
22:35.04 | Ntellect | OH WOW |
22:35.08 | Ntellect | I SAW IT! |
22:35.21 | Ntellect | GEEEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEEEEEE! |
22:35.33 | Ntellect | It's in New Dawn?! |
22:35.37 | Ntellect | THIS IS SO FUN |
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22:37.31 | Ntellect | Hello |
22:37.37 | Ntellect | THIS IS SO MUCH FUN! |
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22:39.15 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o OluapPlayer] by ChanServ |
22:39.22 | Hachi_ | Hai Oluap |
22:39.33 | OluapPlayer | hai nasto |
22:39.36 | OluapPlayer | nasti even |
22:39.42 | Ntellect | Hello, Oluap. |
22:40.20 | Ntellect | I'm having a load of excitement as Monet writes out something wonderful. |
22:40.20 | Ntellect | http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/6/6a/Revelations_Of_Information.png |
22:40.41 | Ntellect | Sneak preview |
22:41.21 | Monet | Ntellect waht did I say about message flooding |
22:41.29 | Ntellect | Sorry... |
22:43.04 | Ntellect | How far along in the story are you, though? |
22:43.22 | ImpyDroid | Hi Old |
22:43.25 | ImpyDroid | Ol |
22:43.33 | Monet | Can you please leave me to work? |
22:44.05 | Hachi_ | I realize that with the right additions, Shepard's armour can look like Tau armour hur |
22:44.09 | Hachi_ | Or at least similar |
22:44.36 | Ntellect | loll |
22:45.35 | ImpyDroid | Shas'o'pard |
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22:45.58 | ImpyDroid | g |
22:48.45 | Ntellect | a |
22:51.44 | Ntellect | so... |
22:53.49 | Monet | It'll be done. When its' done. |
22:54.14 | Ntellect | I just said "so" to get a conversation going |
22:56.51 | ImpyDroid | It will be done http://www.wowpedia.org/Soon |
22:57.24 | OluapPlayer | Finally there's some Pikmin 3 soundtrack on YouTube |
23:03.29 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Dawn/Year_6#Revelations_Of_Information here's your section |
23:06.57 | Hachi_ | Jack and Grunt would make a cute couple |
23:07.04 | Hachi_ | They're both delinquents hur |
23:08.02 | OluapPlayer | Human and Krogan |
23:08.02 | OluapPlayer | ew |
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23:18.48 | OluapPlayer | Now to watch Dwarf Fortress tutorials |
23:18.51 | OluapPlayer | This is gonna take a while |
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23:28.03 | Wormy | test |
23:38.02 | Tybusen | Well so much for making 3D models of SporeWiki characters |
23:38.09 | Tybusen | I ragequitted |
23:44.23 | Wormy | Who was you trying to make? |
23:45.24 | Wormy | Was you making them frm scratch or using collada? |
23:54.09 | Tybusen | I was using a collada |
23:54.19 | Tybusen | Imported from the creators |
23:55.26 | Tybusen | Trying to learn how to use a 3D modeling program all at once was not my greatest idea |
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23:57.41 | LawfulInsane | Hello. |