IRC log for #sporewiki on 20130526

00:00.02Hachi_He looks as if he's completely whacked on crack
00:00.52OluapPlayernou
00:11.47OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/6/60/Dracogovaesis.png Dracogoposh
00:12.38Hachi_Dracogovaesis - WE HAZ FANCY SWAG
00:18.47WormyWell I'm 19 now
00:19.31OluapPlayerur a young'un
00:19.36OluapPlayerHappy bday
00:19.46WormyThanks
00:19.59WormyI still need to make your present
00:20.36Wormy19 is young compared to 90 hur
00:20.50WormyThough I'm finding life seems to be going quick
00:21.16Hachi_That happens as you get older
00:21.33Hachi_That's why a sa kid, you used to think the time goes by really slowly
00:21.51WormyWhen I was young, the year seem to drag between Christmas and Summer holidays
00:22.37WormyNow I'm starting think "oh its Xmas again, oh its Spring again, oh its my birthday and the summer, oh look winters coming"
00:24.26WormyOh well, 20s looks fun as well
00:24.35Wormymaybe even early 30's
00:25.34WormyI don't want a partner and possibly family till then.  I want to see the word first
00:25.41Wormyworld
00:28.11OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/c/c2/DracoSizes.png small crocs, big crocs
00:28.47Hachi_Geezush that last one is huge
00:28.51Hachi_I neevr expected them to be so big
00:28.56WormyIndeed
00:30.41OluapPlayerThose are male sizes. Considering females are larger than males in all three subspecies, a female Dracogodasimer is probably 3m tall
00:31.09WormyHm psychologists say to slow down time, one needs to break routine
00:46.12OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/c/c1/Captain_Drakley.png Jerkon's dad, who is ded
00:52.08OluapPlayerFinally all Dracs are remade
00:52.14Hachi_Ooh yeye
00:52.15OluapPlayerthis took longer than I expected hur
00:52.16Hachi_yey*
00:52.31Hachi_I still haven't managed to outfit that mech hur
00:53.03OluapPlayerhur
00:53.18OluapPlayerMy 14 most recent creatures are all Drac-related
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00:55.20OluapPlayerHachi_: Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2bwCT2ltzs
00:56.29OfficerJackalHello!
00:58.37Hachi_ohgod my sides
01:01.14OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/82ruFUG.gif?1 deres hachi
01:01.24Hachi_ohgodlol
01:04.06AngrybirdsAceOfSpace: [[File:Amphibibot Flag.png]]
01:04.06morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Amphibibot_Flag.png
01:04.25AceOfSpaceAngrybirds: Nice!
01:04.58AngrybirdsSatisfactory? ^.^
01:05.30Angrybirds(I can definitely change it)
01:05.55AceOfSpaceIt's good, only bad thing is that it CRUSHES the infobox :P
01:06.48AngrybirdsxD Meh, hopefully wikia will get that fixed soon.
01:06.56Wormydoes look good
01:07.02Wormyanyway, bye
01:11.39Hachi_You know, I may as well ask Imperios to dress the Brood mechs
01:11.51Hachi_He can do it a lot better than I can
01:14.12Hachi_Unlike some other mechs, Brood mechs are capable of bleeding since they're cyborgs rather than fully mechanical
01:14.20Hachi_They also possess organs
01:18.08AceOfSpacetest
01:20.09OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/7/74/Gezzirak.png new Indoc race. Or rather, old retconned-in race
01:21.08Hachi_Bug peeps
01:21.11Hachi_Hetii - ey bro
01:21.38OluapPlayerGezzirak - ohi
01:21.59OluapPlayerThe title of "created by Dracs" passed from the Horder to these bugs
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01:26.25Hachi_Hai Aeo
01:26.32Aeohi
01:27.16AceOfSpacehey
01:32.31OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Indoctrinate_Collective/Species#Gezzirak dere description
01:38.39MonetGamingMy first character in Mount & Blade isn't looking good.
01:39.00Hachi_Oh?
01:39.27MonetGamingDid well up to a point, then a group of bandits he was hired to get rid of decimated his men, took his sword, took some of his party's food, killed or captured all of his men and he only has a pitance left.
01:41.57MonetGamingOh yeah and they stole his horse.
01:42.06Hachi_NO
01:42.09Hachi_NOT THE HORSE
01:42.28MonetGamingIn other words, my new character did okay then took a nosedive from overconfidence.
01:44.38AeoOluapPlayer: So since all crimes are punished by death, what reason does the one who litters have not to kill witnesses?
01:45.21OluapPlayerI don't get your question
01:45.45AeoIn the indoctrinate collective
01:46.11OluapPlayerI know you're talking about them but I don't get the question
01:46.51MonetGamingIf a litter is to die waht stops hi mgoing on a killing spree.
01:46.56MonetGaminglitterer*
01:47.10MonetGamingI say logic.
01:47.25OluapPlayerLittering is not a crime in the Collective
01:48.15OluapPlayerIf anything, people will just think you have bad hygiene
01:48.25Aeookay but like, a petty crime
01:48.34Aeostealing a candy bar
01:49.02MonetGamingIt does save money on a massive infrastructure.
01:49.51OluapPlayerSomething that minor would get you berated but not killed. I don't see something like this being common anyway
01:50.21MonetGamingAeon's in flaw-pointing-out-mode.
01:50.51OluapPlayerIt is supposed to have flaws. If it was flawless it would be a Mary Sue, which is exactly what I want
01:51.04OluapPlayerThe Vengeful Claw's entire purpose is to point out the Collective's flaws
01:51.13OluapPlayer*what I don't want
01:52.55MonetGamingI' dliek to point out a flaw coz i'm in an evil mood: How can Cleanser claim the Aeons sell their souls willingly when their whole society is essentially geared to shun those who don't.
01:53.59MonetGamingAnd the rite iteslf often takes place in preschool years AKA when most children are aware but now virtually jack-shit about how the world works.
01:54.16MonetGamingknow virtually*
01:54.18Aeowell they still can refuse it
01:55.30OluapPlayerI always imagined trash in the Collective being collected by droids and sent to disposable containers to be thrown into the system's star. I'm not sure how efficient this is but it is a solution hur
01:56.00MonetGamingAeo: They can, but is society really going to say "okay, fine, do as you wish, no pressure"? Nope.
01:56.39MonetGamingAlso most (human) kids at five will believe almost anything their parents tell them.
01:58.03MonetGamingMy point still stands: They have a choice, but everything they've brought up to believe says it's not a good idea to not say no.
01:58.36Aeo<PROTECTED>
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01:59.10MonetGamingYou're not helping your case.
01:59.29AeoIts not supposed to be nice.
01:59.31Tek0516what's the argument this time?
01:59.46Aeoage of dedication
02:00.15Tek0516And?
02:00.37Hachi_Zazane children are usually inducted into mandatory military education at around 5
02:01.01MonetI've called BS on how Cleanser says "the Aeons give up their souls willingly". More specifically; while the option exist, society is geared up to tell them saying 'no' is inadviseable.
02:01.43OluapPlayerIndoc Zazane - hur we escape conscription cause indocs dun have it
02:01.49Tek0516Afkon - This is children "voluntarily" selling yourself into a lifetime of slavery.
02:02.54MonetIt gets even better: the only difference btween this and DI slavery is that children born into DI slavery are not lied to.
02:03.10Aeoullshit
02:03.33AeoAeons live lives 99% identicle to those of any religious person.
02:03.35MonetThey're not tricked. They will learn that they have a lower standing, that they will have owners.
02:04.52MonetAlso every Aeon "slave" only has one specific master.
02:05.03AeoIts more like if you lived like a noemal person but are very occasionally ordered to do something
02:05.45R17lol
02:05.52Tek0516Except your entire existence is directly manipulated by that person.
02:06.16R17^
02:06.17MonetThey're still recieving orders they can't refuse.
02:06.24AeoAs oppsed to serving a master for basically all your life with it being your primary activity
02:07.02MonetOh wait, isn't the Empire dedicated to following the Cleanser's wishes? Dooing waht he asks of them?
02:07.39Tek0516They were literally made to serve him.
02:07.48AeoYes, but in practice this means a daily prayer regimine and living a reasonably morl life.
02:07.50MonetHe may not give orders to every single one of his servants, but he still gives them orders like any taskamster.
02:08.34Tek0516I'm sure he can also do a lot behind the scenes.
02:09.02AeoCleanser doesn't mindjack Aeoneonatrix hardly ever for one simple reason: He doesn't have to.
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02:09.10Hachi__Fuck sake, internet
02:09.39MonetAeo: True, he doesn't. But that's because he has trained them so well.
02:09.46Tek0516He supposedly has conversations with them on a daily basis. I'm sure he influences them during then.
02:09.53AeoThey blindly obey him out of love alone, love which is at least partially due to friendship built thorough their worshipful conversations
02:10.28AeoWell, as much as anyone else that has that much sway in thier minds would
02:11.08AngrybirdsAlso, AceOfSpace: [[File:Delcath Front]]
02:11.09morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Delcath_Front
02:11.18MonetYeah that's...prettymuch how the Elder Gods sway people isn't it? Crawling inside their head, whispering awht they want to hear?
02:11.20Angrybirds[[File:Delcath Front.png]]
02:11.20morgothBotPyAngrybirds meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Delcath_Front.png
02:11.53MonetAfter a few years said person becomes dependant on the guidance of that one voice.
02:12.19Tek0516Angrybirds: collectibe is spelt with a "v".
02:12.25AceOfSpacelol
02:12.31Angrybirds...
02:12.46AngrybirdsTypo.
02:12.51Tek0516XD
02:13.05AeoMonet: NOt really llike that actually.
02:13.27Tek0516I'd disagree.
02:13.39AeoWell, they might become dependant on the Cleanser's advice, but he doesn't set out to do that.
02:13.47MonetNah, Cleanser's nicer. And his voice doesn't make you isnane.
02:13.53Hachi_^
02:13.56Hachi_WROOOOONG
02:14.17Hachi_I'd consider the Aeons, to a small or partial degree, insane cuz of him
02:14.21R17^
02:14.24Hachi_But it's just so common nobody recognizes it
02:14.34AeoYes, and he's nothing but up-front and explicit about his talking to you.
02:14.40AeoNo subtle quiet voice
02:14.43R17just like with almost any religion
02:14.46AngrybirdsTek0516: I AM NOT AMUSED!
02:14.51Tek0516?
02:14.52R17it's dum
02:15.37AeoR17 are you asseting that religous belief is a literal mental illness or inevitably causes one?
02:15.39MonetAlso why is Calille's brother - a non-dedicated - in a mental asylum?
02:15.56AeoBecause if you are, you are going to make me snap.
02:16.05Tek0516I think it's a prison.
02:16.10AeoUm... what?
02:16.28AeoOh, he's in there for being a war criminal in the unification war
02:16.43R17Aeo: It isn't, but I consider it an outdated system of thinking that doesn't really help anymore- oh wait, yes it causes one because of that. Hahaha...
02:16.58AeoEnekians were undedicated, which is the only reason why could be as evil as they were.
02:16.59R17SNAP BOY, SNAP
02:17.12OfficerJackalR17 be trollin'
02:17.18R17Evil is just a viewpoint
02:17.25R17Morals are just a viewpoint
02:17.30R17there is no absolute
02:17.30MonetSo in other words Cleanser uses the "unbelievers are BAD" argument to enforce hsi religion?
02:17.33R17as we have told you
02:17.37Aeosnaps and eats all that R17 holds dear, entombing R17 in the resulting fecal matter.
02:17.43Tek0516O.o
02:17.43R17Lol
02:17.47AeoNo
02:17.50R17Aeo: that's pathetic
02:17.56R17SNAP SOME MORE
02:18.13MonetR17 i'll be honest. You were a prick just now.
02:18.21AeoBut the bottom line is that Gusian communism wouldn't have existed if Gusia had been dedicated.
02:18.25OfficerJackalSlaps R17 because he is being a troll, stop being a fucking troll.
02:18.37R17Meh
02:18.39Hachi_I'll admit that R17 is being quite unnecessary
02:18.45R17I'll just leave it at that
02:18.49OluapPlayerQuit the bullshit
02:18.54Hachi_As Imperios would also say if he were here
02:18.57MonetAeo: And he can't come out because he's not a cleanserist?
02:19.38Tek0516At least one presidential candidate would have him deported for not being dedicated.
02:19.55AeoTaesorack would not be instantly pardoned simply for being one.
02:20.10AeoWhat he WOULD have is a friend to talk to.
02:20.33Aeoand possibly, better treatment, but that's due to the guards behaving badly.
02:20.46AeoDiscrimination against the undedicated is illegal
02:20.59Hachi_Zazane just skip prison altogether
02:21.00Aeobut like most illegal things, happens anyway.
02:21.06OluapPlayerDrac - word
02:21.11Hachi_If you commit a serious offence, you die for it.
02:21.25OluapPlayerDrac - wooooord braaaah
02:21.38Monet"discrimination is illegal" *cough*BarredfromaPoliticalcarreer*cough*
02:21.55Hachi_Murder is a bendy subject though; it's not considered murder if your target is given a fair chance to fight back.
02:22.36MonetAeo: Happens anyway as in "part of social policy?"
02:22.52OfficerJackalJaywalking is sentenced with death in the NCKU. XD
02:22.55AeoIn the same way racism is
02:23.47MonetExcept i'm led to believe it is impossible for an undedicated to lead a political career.
02:24.12AeoJust like an Atheist couldn't in the US
02:24.19MonetSeriously?
02:24.29MonetAtheists can't be politicians?
02:24.36AeoIt's legal, but there's no real chance of it happening because people vote on religous grounds.
02:24.58AeoThey can be, but are unlikley to do well
02:25.07MonetSo muchfor "division between church and state" if all your politicians follow a faith.
02:25.14Hachi_hur
02:25.38AeoThere is no principle of seperation of church and state in the Aeon empire.
02:25.48AeoThere is a principle of religious freedom
02:26.10Tek0516Lol
02:26.10MonetI was talking about the US with "division between church and state"
02:26.27AeoBut even that would go away if Nowuro wins, though only a little bit. The council would not pass his mandate to deport the undedicated.
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02:26.48AdmiralPandahuh, you're on late Hachi _ and Monet
02:26.53Hachi_Hai Panda
02:27.11AeoOh, well, people will not likely vote for a non-Christian
02:27.22AeoIf that's a violaition of speration of Church and state than yeah.
02:27.48MonetI got caught up with a riveting discussion of how living as a cleanserist is almost identical to living as a DI slave eaxept you don't 100% know it.
02:28.04AdmiralPandahm
02:28.21AdmiralPandaDo I need to change my computer's filters or was that sarcasm that just blew out of the fan?
02:28.43MonetSurprisingly I was being rather sincere.
02:29.01AdmiralPandaThat's a new one! But seriously, interesting
02:29.17AeoWell, the Cleanser demands different things
02:29.49AdmiralPandaLike that sweet and salty morsel stuck away in a fleshy box?
02:29.56AeoAn Aeon's day does not consist of serving the Cleanser in place of a 9-5 job.
02:30.22AdmiralPandaIn other news, http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3250583a_99120104030_Wraithknight01_873x627.jpg this thing's gun is the length of a main battle tank
02:30.29AdmiralPandaI came a little when I saw the size comparison
02:30.55Tek0516But was their society not created solely to serve the Cleanser?
02:31.31AeoCleanser does give them orders, but not too often. Likely they'll get one actual "I'm your master and you SHALL do X" per 30 or so years.
02:31.32MonetAeon and Cleanser state that in the Rite of Dedication (which is usually done at age 3-4), the infant gets to willingly chose whether to sell their soul or not. HOWEVER, Empire society actively pressures the infant to sell their soul.
02:32.33MonetAlso at that age, a child is most-likely to agree to the rite because their parents teld them it would be a good thing.
02:33.25MonetAeon: You're comparing lifestyle. While i'm comparing what makes them slaves.
02:34.24MonetIt's like saying DI slavery is not slavery because in modern-world slavery most of the slaves get treated liek shit.
02:34.55AeoI don't deny that Cleanser is in the wrong.
02:35.07Tek0516Aeon's words during a dedication RP: "The child spoke with an ill-developed voice, as though he had only been speaking for a few years. Certainly not the voice of a person aged enough to usually be considered fit to validly consent to a financial transaction."
02:35.13MonetNo, you were saying the Imperium is in the wrong.
02:36.07MonetThree-year-olds have poorly-developed decision making skills.
02:36.16OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/9/94/Cyclonian_Overking.png While you're talking about dumness I'm making giant roboto
02:36.17MonetAt least compared to when they are older.
02:36.19AeoBoth DI slavery and Cleanseris slavery would be wrong if they really existed.
02:36.22OluapPlayer*robotos
02:36.39Hachi_yey Junction stoof
02:36.52MonetOn a side note, that Wraithknight is oen big Wraithlord.
02:37.07AeoHowever, it's noteworthy that they would serve the Cleanser anyway.
02:37.14AdmiralPandaMonet: It most certainly is
02:37.19AdmiralPandaThe wraithlord comes up to his waist
02:37.23MonetAeo: because he's their god?
02:37.36AeoBecause he is a friend who they love and has earned their respect and devotion.
02:37.42OluapPlayerThe picture has the old name but that's because i'm not gonna rename the files
02:37.58AeoThat's why Cleanser doesn't HAVE to threaten punishment.
02:38.30MonetSo he's like 20% of the population on Facebook?
02:39.14MonetActualyl scratch that.
02:39.19MonetHe's liek a politician?
02:39.41AeoIDK if disobeying a direct order would result in punishment, but they certainly don't behave perfectly according to his standards at all times.
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02:40.23AeoThe Aeons he Cleanses are the Hitlers, Stalins, and Neros.
02:40.47AeoNot the petty criminals or even the murderers.
02:40.52AeoWell, sometimes
02:41.00OfficerJackalLol I join the IRC, and the first thing I hear is about Hitler, Stalin, and Nero.
02:41.25AeoHe'd not likely do a murderer unless the murder would have massive negative effects.
02:41.55MonetWhat about the people who defy his moral views but in doing so allow the Empire to progress?
02:42.24Tek0516The Cleanser went after a Farengeto mob member.
02:42.44MonetLike say... the DOnald Trumps?
02:43.40AeoThat one was a MASS murderer.
02:44.04AeoI meant ones who only will kill one person.
02:45.02AeoWell if letting it continue did more good, ceansy likely would
02:45.09MonetWhat about the Peter the Greats of the universe?
02:45.37Aeowho?
02:46.35MonetA Russian empeor. He wanted to revolutionise Russia with various social and engineering projects. He was also pretty brutal at times.
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02:46.41AngrybirdsPeter the Great, czar of Russia.
02:46.55AngrybirdsAnd paranoid.
02:46.56The_RandomnessHello everyone
02:47.36Tek0516The great people of history rarely got anywhere by being nice.
02:48.15MonetRichard I. One of England's greatest kings made his name internationaly by fighting in the crusades.
02:49.21MonetEssentially one of the great heroes of England made his name by killing Muslims and pounding at Saladin's empire.
02:50.09AeoCleanser makes judgement calls
02:51.39MonetLet's see who else...Otto Von Bismark wanted to bolster the Austro-hungarian Empire. He did that by thephrase "blood and iron" aka, a powerful industry and the blood of thousands of laboruers.
02:52.03MonetAnd killing anyone who stood in the empire's way.
02:52.36AngrybirdsOtto von Bismark sided with Germany and defeated Austria-Hungary...
02:52.42The_RandomnessThe first emperor of China, Emperor Qin united China by pretty much wiping out whoever stood against him.
02:52.49MonetNapoleon; same story, loved killing and hanging people. The result? During the victorian era people were SCARED of the French.
02:52.53AeoCleanser makes judgement calls in some situations.
02:53.15AeoHe's usually a utilitarian
02:53.25MonetJudgement calls?
02:53.51AngrybirdsNapoleon had very little to do with the terror, actually.
02:54.09AngrybirdsThough people were truly scared of the French and demonized him.
02:54.33The_RandomnessNapoleon was an idiot. He tried to invade Russia.
02:54.41MonetWell the French army was ruthlessu nder him. It's theorised that if he had won at Waterloo, the UK would be speaking French now.
02:55.40The_Randomness#1 rule to taking over the world: Never, EVER get into a land war with Russia.
02:55.51AngrybirdsMaybe, maybe not. GB was nearly bankrupt at the time, but Prussia, Russia, and Austria still stood against him.
02:56.22AeoCleanser - I have to judge ambiguous persons on a case by case basis.
02:56.31AngrybirdsAnd Randomness, he wasn't an IDIOT... he just got overconfident and made a mistake which cost him his empire. xD
02:56.56The_RandomnessMy point exactly. He was an idiot.
02:57.11MonetThere is one success he had: Right before Italy fully solidified as a unified nation, he conquered a bit of it.
02:59.15MonetThe Turks created an empire that lased right up until 1912, Part of their success was their rather brutal conquest of the decaying Byzantine Empire and claiming the heart of it as their own capital in the late 1400s.
02:59.38The_RandomnessYou mean the Ottoman Empire?
02:59.58MonetYep.
03:00.12AngrybirdsYep. I thought it fell appart in 1918?
03:00.23MonetAround that time.
03:01.01The_RandomnessInteresting fact about Turkey: It was illegal to wear a fez from 1935 to 2008.
03:01.23Angrybirdslol
03:02.03Monet500 yeasisn't too bad for an empire.
03:02.36The_RandomnessAnd thus fell the last remnants of the Roman Empire.
03:02.54The_RandomnessWith the fall of the Byzantine Empire, that is.
03:04.21MonetAlso I am about to put forward the argument against why being fanatical about what is morally right is not always a good idea: Most Moral Guardians and do-gooders. Ever.
03:06.02OluapPlayerHachi_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIVvCYrAh9M
03:06.03Monetmorally right is not always a good idea*
03:07.12Aeowhat?
03:07.24AeoWhat do you mean?
03:07.51MonetI am about to put forward the argument against why being fanatical about what is morally right is a good idea: Most Moral Guardians and do-gooders. Ever.
03:08.23The_RandomnessThat feels like it's worded awkwardly.
03:08.26Hachi_"Mummies and Frankenmen? Nope! But bats? HNNNNNGH"
03:09.04MonetBasically Moral GUardians and do-gooders were why being a "good guy" is not the best idea ever.
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03:09.45Hachi_Most guys who try to set a good impression in an in-your-face sorta way are mostly douchebags
03:09.55Hachi_And don't really get far in the real word
03:09.59AngrybirdsLike Lingur, for example.
03:09.59MonetExactly.
03:10.29Hachi_Which is why Kithanan isn't openly serving a cause. He isn't trying to set an impression to anybody at all.
03:10.41Hachi_He's just trying to experience the next big thrill
03:10.43OluapPlayerFunnily enough, Frankenman was the easiest boss of Castlevania IV, and the Mummy was hard as fuck hur
03:10.53Hachi_lel
03:11.04The_RandomnessFreaking undead
03:11.16OluapPlayerWith the mummy it was all "OH GOD HOW DO I DODGE THIS FUCKER"
03:11.30MonetLarnus may seem like a good guy, but 80% of the time he's a pragmatist. If a military strategy works, he'll use it.
03:11.49OluapPlayerI had an easier time with Death than with the Mummy
03:12.23MonetHe aims for minimal losses and most effective outcome. Even if it means engaging in somewhat underhanded tactics like warping in, broadsiding and then wapring out.
03:12.54AeoI'll take a Do-gooder who saves lives over a jackass who lets people die because they are "weak" any day.
03:13.04AeoOr because it benefits him personally
03:13.09OluapPlayerThe fight with Death is pretty cool, you and him both get some kind of dark red electric effect everytime you get hit
03:13.18Hachi_That sounds epic
03:13.18MonetEven if the do-gooder comes off as an anal prick?
03:13.20OluapPlayerSo the whole battle feels powerful
03:13.46The_RandomnessWell, you're fighting Death, what do you expect?
03:13.53AeoYes, better than a "tolerant" person who lets people die
03:14.01OluapPlayerSkeletons, for one. And scythes, hur
03:14.43OluapPlayerDeath's diet consists of 10 meals made entirely of scythes, seeing how he keeps shooting scythes out of his belly at you hur
03:14.51The_RandomnessLol
03:14.51Hachi_ohgod
03:15.01The_RandomnessI guess it keeps him sharp.
03:15.07OluapPlayerOHOHOHO
03:15.09The_Randomness[/badpun]
03:15.39MonetAeo: I'd stand by the "tolerant" guy over the do-gooder arsehole because i'm less likely to be ordered on a suicide run.
03:16.10MonetIf I do.
03:16.15AeoNo, you are more likely to be sent to your death because it is "pragmatic."
03:16.49MonetNo, because he's not going to send me to my death over lives that I might not end up saving anyway.
03:16.55AeoBy which is meant "beneficial to my ends"
03:16.55Hachi_Do-gooders die quicker.
03:17.15The_Randomness^
03:17.43AeoBecause we all know altruism is a bad thing.
03:17.54The_RandomnessOf course!
03:17.55OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li-WqhG9Mko here, skeleton dood
03:18.40MonetAs cruel as it sounds, sending a reinforcing army to save another amy is prefereble to saving a village under attack because you can use those soldiers to win the war wheras saving the village's refugees is nothing but a burden. COld but true.
03:19.06The_RandomnessDeath sure dies fast.
03:19.16Tek0516lol
03:19.19Monetarmy*
03:19.32OluapPlayerWe're lucky he does
03:19.36Hachi_Monet does have a point
03:19.36AeoMonet: That's different if winning the war will do more good than saving the refugees.
03:19.39The_RandomnessHow ironic
03:19.45OluapPlayerDeath is the third in a boss rush of 4 bosses
03:19.50MonetAeo: Usualyl it does.
03:20.02OluapPlayerThe fourth boss being Dracula
03:20.07AeoYou're talking about prudence, not selfishness.
03:20.09Hachi_Gotta crack a few eggs if you wanna make an omelette
03:20.42MonetAltrusim isn't a bad thing, it's when it proves a detriment in the grand scheme of things that it's inadviseable.
03:20.52OluapPlayerAlso that part where his scythe is spinning in the air? If you touch a pixel of it, it's an instant death
03:20.58Hachi_Geezush
03:21.06The_RandomnessDeath, death everywhere!
03:21.22OluapPlayerDeath is such a wacky fellow
03:21.25The_RandomnessThe lives, they do nothing!
03:21.32OluapPlayerAccording to Game Grumps, Death is a businessman
03:21.54Hachi_Kithanan is just openly selfish a lot of the time. He gets off on killing people and dying over and over again. He won't help an army defeat another army because of beliefs or causes; he'll kill both armies if he wants to or feels the need to.
03:22.04MonetAeon: Oh but think of those poor poor peasants you left to die if you save that army. I'm sure if you saved them they'd be ever so grateful eating your supplies and slowing your army down :P
03:22.05Hachi_Kithanan serves no cause and considers himself "free".
03:23.13Hachi_If you think you're an ally of Kithanan, you're mistaken; you're just another fool who has grown attached to somebody who is willing to simply turn around and kill you on the spot bare if he feels the need or want to.
03:23.40MonetAnd maybe if you ask nicely, those peasants can arm themselves into a fighting force that's a fraction as formidable as that army that just died.
03:24.18AngrybirdsA lot of people seem to be discontent with wikia. Why don't we move Sporewiki over to another wiki service? Might rid us of all these stupid errors.
03:24.18Hachi_Monet does have a good point
03:24.47The_RandomnessAngrybirds: Because it would break everything
03:24.58AngrybirdsHow so?
03:26.12Hachi_Perhaps it is refreshing to have a protagonist who doesn't serve a cause or feels the need to fight evil and is just an outright selfish prick hur
03:26.20AeoMonet: You seem to think that anyone who wants to be moral must be a self-righteous imprudent jackas..
03:27.01AngrybirdsWell, they tend to be for some reason.
03:27.07Tek0516The coding difference would be the first issue. Then there's the sheer quantity.
03:27.12MonetAeo: Uriel is an exampple of a man who has a code of honour and is likeable.
03:27.17AdmiralPandaHachi_: So Kaios
03:27.30The_RandomnessIf we would switch from Wikia, we would lose the stuff saying "Oh, that's what this means." that Wikia gives us.
03:27.31AngrybirdsTek0516, I've looked. Mediawiki and wikipedia use the same code as we do.
03:27.52Tek0516But aren't they still the same group?
03:28.01AeoWhat you are calling pragmatism in THIS case I call prudence.
03:28.23AeoHOwever, there is a limit to it, lest we be utilitarians.
03:28.24AngrybirdsIn this case, they're the same thing.
03:28.26AdmiralPandaAeo: The difference is  between someone who has a moral code, and someone who shoves that moral code down someone else's throat / is inflexible in their morality
03:28.37Hachi_Well, I'm gonna go
03:28.39Hachi_Night
03:28.48OluapPlayerdum I was gonna show him a vide
03:28.50OluapPlayervideo even
03:29.05AeoBy "Shoving their moral code down another's throat" You seem to mean acting on it in a way that effects other people.
03:29.10MonetAeo: I don't understand what you have against utilitarianism.
03:29.36AeoThe DI is forcing it's pro-slavery morality on people.
03:30.00The_RandomnessTut tut, you should know better than to use straw men.
03:30.19MonetAeo...Cleanser doesn't shut the fuck up about how he saved x billions of lives by his actions.
03:30.38AeoBecause it is true and it is what he thinks justifies them
03:30.40AdmiralPandaHe continually acts as if his way was the only way, and refuses to admit he might be the slightest bit wrong
03:30.55AeoBTW My problem with utilitarianism is that it allows injustice and unfairness.
03:30.57AdmiralPandaHel'Bre'K saves trillions of lives by committing genocide.
03:31.04MonetAlso how does the DI force a pro-slavery morality on anyone but its own citizens?
03:31.20AdmiralPandaAnd it should be noted that the DI's citizens are citizens by choice
03:31.27AeoWell... you have to be a slave.
03:31.47AeoOkay, maybe I was wrong there
03:31.52R17Hah!
03:32.07MonetThere's a differnce between supporting slavery and being indifferent to it, which is what 80% of the Imperial population is.
03:32.08AngrybirdsR17, that was uncalled for.
03:32.33AeoBut you now what? we SHOULD force morality on people when they are acting horribly.
03:32.36AdmiralPandaThe only time you're forced to be a slave is when your people committed a major political fuckup
03:32.46AdmiralPandaAeo: Nah, just shoot em. Cheaper and cleaner.
03:32.51R17^
03:33.05AdmiralPandaWhat we're trying to get at is forcing a particular viewpoint is annoying as hell.
03:33.10AngrybirdsAeo: That would be advisable if there was a real, concrete morality.
03:33.16AeoThat's why criminal justice is often advocated to have rehabilitation.
03:33.27AeoWhich. There. Is.
03:33.31R17Among humans, but not aliens.
03:33.47AdmiralPandaEvery time you do anything, it just feels like you're trying to push your particular flavour of moral sauce all over us. Thing is, we don't like it, and since it's all you do, we tend not to like you either.
03:33.55MonetIIRC even in AMERICA there is still the death penalty.
03:33.58AdmiralPandaAnyway I'm done with this topic
03:34.01Aeokills R17 and uses his soul to power a machine which changes the subject.
03:34.24R17laughs as he is still alive and retains his soul
03:34.32Ace_Idlingcya
03:35.20R17Oh look, the /me command, how silly.
03:35.39Angrybirdsshushes R17.
03:36.04R17Meh
03:36.06R17I'll just leave it at that.
03:36.39MonetActually, according to WIkpedia, utilitariuanism advocates the "morally right" way is the one that maximises utility. in other words -Utilitarianism is a practical kind of morality-
03:36.43AngrybirdsThank you.
03:37.34AeoUtilitarianism has only one moral principle and no sense of justice, fairness, equality, etc
03:37.42The_RandomnessEnough!
03:38.14AngrybirdsAeo: Do you know that for sure? You still seem to misunderstand what pragmatism is.
03:38.21MonetRandomness is right. I really need to lean to shut my mouth.
03:38.24The_RandomnessThis is like those wretched circlejerks on Reddit, where neither side gets anywhere and you just end up with endless squabbling.
03:38.49Angrybirdscirclejerks? Is that a term?
03:38.53MonetI could have gone to bed two hours ago but nooooo, I -had- to voice my opinion. Stupid Monet.
03:39.29The_RandomnessHOW DARE YOU VOICE YOUR OPINION ON THE INTERNETS
03:39.35R17Angrybirds: Yes
03:39.47The_RandomnessWe should ban those pesky thing.
03:39.56The_Randomness*things
03:40.18Angrybirds~nick Circlejerk
03:40.33The_Randomnessohoho
03:40.44CircleJerkWell, that's awkward.
03:41.11R17#illarion
03:41.12AdmiralPandaI don't think birds realises what circlejerks are
03:41.22AdmiralPandawhich makes this all the more hilarious
03:44.07CircleJerkI don't >.<
03:44.22AngrybirdsWhat is it?
03:44.22R17I could tell you at #illarion
03:44.30R17but my description would be rather... obscene...
03:44.41AdmiralPandaIt involves sexual terminology
03:45.02The_Randomness:eyebrows:
03:47.15Angrybirds... Well, now I know. This is awkward.
03:48.00Tek0516lol
03:48.31Angrybirds>.<
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04:34.03infoboti haven't seen 'aquillo', Tek0516
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07:26.33Aeohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Aeoneonatrix/Sporewiki_RPG%3F AdmiralPanda your comment is especially desired.
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07:32.25R17meh
07:32.42R17wait
07:32.44R17nevermind
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07:32.55R17really important to do
07:32.56R17I mean
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08:19.39AdmiralPandaAeo: All I will say is this much: everything I know about you tells me that making you DM would be a bad, bad idea
08:20.19AeoBut other than that?
08:20.29AeoMy idea of making this universe into an RPG?
08:20.33AdmiralPandaEither way, Sporewiki has such a vast amount of variance that you're going to have to come up with a LOT of situational rules and additional stats to make it playable
08:20.58AeoOr limit the players to a small area like the Katar sector.
08:21.34AdmiralPandaYou miss the point once again
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08:21.43Wormyhi
08:21.44Liquid_InkI'm sure Aeo would make a great GM.
08:22.08AdmiralPandaA 'soldier' for the Fordanta is so vastly different to a 'soldier' for the DI that you couldn't use the same class to describe them
08:22.26AdmiralPandaso unless you're willing to write up a sheet and a half of feats to allow for such normal variance you're in trouble
08:23.36AeoOr we limit the number of races at first
08:24.05AeoSay, at first, you may be Human, Raedon, Zazane, Aeoneonatrix, or Loron
08:24.09AdmiralPandafacepalms violently
08:24.23AeoAnd as time goes on, we will add the stats for more stuff
08:24.28AdmiralPandaDear god will you listen to me for five seconds instead of ignoring me?
08:24.43AeoHow am I ignoring you?
08:24.58AdmiralPandaEven comparing a human to a Zazane, you'd have to write at least four feats up inherent to Zazane to describe their unique physiology
08:25.19Aeohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Aeoneonatrix/Sporewiki_RPG%3F wormy
08:25.21AdmiralPandarestricting races doesn't change the fact that you'd have to write a complete supplement just to make it vaguely representative of what's going on
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08:25.57AdmiralPandathe reason D&D works the way it does is because at the end of the day you can compare everything on the same standard scale
08:25.58Aeowhy?
08:26.04AdmiralPandaSporewiki races don't sit on that same scale
08:26.14AdmiralPandaYou clearly haven't played D&D
08:26.20Aeowhat do u mean
08:26.30Sporeraptorhi
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08:27.06AdmiralPandaCompare a human and elf
08:27.22AdmiralPandahumans are general but highly variable, elves are basically humans just faster, smarter but more frail
08:27.28AdmiralPandacompare a human and a zazane
08:27.59AdmiralPandazazane are aliens with metal bones, completely different technology and psychology, not to mention their equipment
08:28.37AdmiralPandayou'd be writing a feat just to describe the bones, a feat just to quantify their psychological differences, a whole equipment list, not to mention traits and variances
08:30.38AeoWhy? Why would it need to be more than a stat adjustment?
08:31.28Aeoor a single special ability of the character
08:31.31AdmiralPandaAs I said, you clearly haven't played D&D
08:31.37AeoNo I have not.
08:31.57AdmiralPandaThe ability to use a longsword is a feat
08:32.09AdmiralPandaadmittedly, an inherent feat for most classes, but my point stands
08:32.24AdmiralPandathere are so many little instances of variability that have to be written into rules that are beyond 'simple stat adjustments'
08:32.35AeoStill, are you saying that this would be days of writing?
08:32.46AdmiralPandamonths, most likely
08:33.03AdmiralPandaand that's if you have a solid grounding in game design and balance
08:33.11AeoAt worst, we'd have to be bare bones at first or not account for every last thing. Or use a simpler system.
08:34.03AdmiralPandaI want it made clear I'm not saying yes or no. What I am saying is the utter fuckton of work involved in this idea would make it pointless
08:34.16AdmiralPandaAlso, do you want to know the actual reason people play D&D?
08:34.32Aeofun?
08:34.40AdmiralPandaTo tell a story, and have fun while they're at it.
08:34.45AdmiralPandaGuess what we do when we write fiction.
08:34.47Aeoya
08:35.04Aeobut its different
08:35.10AdmiralPandaNot really, no.
08:35.24AeoHonestly, i think of it as worth it
08:35.33Aeowell, at least now
08:35.36AdmiralPandaI've been playing D&D for a long time, and trust me: the entertainment comes from that time when you get to say "Hey, remember when X happened?"
08:35.53AdmiralPandaThen everyone laughs at the time when the Bard makes the entire court room commit mass suicide
08:36.12AdmiralPandaWe already get that from the stories we write, so there isn't much point
08:36.37SporeraptorThink so, too, though I never played D&D
08:37.05Aeono we don't?
08:37.15Aeobecause there is no free will?
08:37.39SporeraptorWhere is no free will ?
08:37.42AdmiralPanda1. That statement made no sense at all. 2. If you said what I think you said, you're an idiot
08:37.53AdmiralPandaBecause it sounded like you said we have no free will in the fiction we write
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08:38.48LawfulInsaneHello.
08:39.12AdmiralPandaHi.
08:39.57AeoWell... i mean we are writing the story but it's not the same.
08:40.10AeoLike, my role in AD is different
08:40.18AeoI'm a co-author
08:41.11AdmiralPandaEither way you're still telling a story, and you're still deciding what happens in that story by your actions and decisions
08:41.34AeoBut isn't there a self-evident difference?
08:41.39AdmiralPandaKeep in mind that you're talking to the guy who actually plays D&D here, and I know what I'm talking about.
08:42.40AdmiralPandaA D&D player decides on a turn-by-turn basis how the combat pans out, a fiction author decides stage by stage in the planning phase. It's all the same at the end of the day
08:42.59AdmiralPandaIf you're crazy enough to try I'm not going to stop you, but I'm telling you it's going to end badly
08:43.03Sporeraptorhi
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09:28.04LawfulInsane_Hello.
09:30.00Liquid_Inkhttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzxpi9839W1r2ntbyo1_500.png
09:31.04Wormyngh
09:31.37AdmiralPandaPictures taken at just the right moment
09:31.41Wormystop spoiling my childhood memory of superheroes
09:31.44AdmiralPandahe was probably performing a full-body scan
09:31.47Liquid_InkNot only is he a perv, he's probably going to give her breast cancer.
09:33.13LawfulInsane_hur
09:34.50Wormyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctAQMS9bUDk
09:39.53AeoWormy: My next member race will have unspeakably luxurious hair, softer than silk, out of which you can make really great fabrics. Now, my current plan is to make this a major export of the Aeoneonatrix empire, is such a notion unspeakably stupid?
09:40.42WormyI don't think so
09:40.58Aeook
09:41.05WormyBiological things are often as good or better than technology
09:41.18AeoI need a name for an alien...
09:41.32WormyAlso the Tholians in Star Trek trade their silk
09:44.01WormyI shall log on to STO
09:44.15Wormy_STOWhy I announced that I don't know
09:53.23Liquid_InkIn case you nickname change didn't give a clear enough hint.
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09:58.01GD12turns Angrybirds into Bird's Nest Soup
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10:04.25R17Dammit Impy
10:04.30R17where art thou
10:04.55R17nevermind
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10:32.09Liquid_InkHowdy.
10:34.21Technobliteratorhii
10:34.34Liquid_InkHow are you?
10:34.56Technobliteratori'm good, you?
10:35.19Liquid_InkTerrible. I have to do some homework and I have no clue how.
10:59.18AdmiralPandaHello
10:59.38AdmiralPandaLiquid_Ink: What be this homework that you're having trouble with?
11:00.35Liquid_InkI'm getting it now. I have to do a practise essay on a film. The problem is, I didn't get my info about it from the teacher but from another student, since I was away sick.
11:01.34AdmiralPandaWhich film?
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11:02.21MonetHi
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11:05.10OfficerJackalHello!
11:05.22Liquid_InkMississippi Burning.
11:06.51Wormy_STOIf I was living in the US, in the 60's, I'd be sent to Vietnam now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8JlTIo--CQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
11:07.04Wormy_STOHello
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11:09.18AdmiralPandaIsn't mississippi burning that KKK one?
11:09.43Liquid_InkYep.
11:10.08Liquid_InkI feel we should put the KKK and the al-Qaeda in an arena and see who wins.
11:18.38AdmiralPandaWhat do you have to put in the essay?
11:18.53Liquid_InkNevermind. I'm on top of it now.
11:19.24AdmiralPandaok
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11:26.50OfficerJackalSomehow transforms back to his normal self, and incinerates Aeo with a flamethrower, the resulting fried food is delicious.
11:27.32AeoWho eats it?
11:27.42OfficerJackalMe, I guess.
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11:29.53Hachi_Hai
11:29.55AdmiralPandaHai buni
11:30.19Hachi_Monet have you been on since last night? o.o
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11:43.48AdmiralPanda_hi
12:00.11WormyWell I need to go, bye.
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12:01.56Liquid_Ink*assuming
12:03.36Technnobliteratohuh wha?
12:03.39Technnobliteratooh :L
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12:05.12ImperiosHelloooo
12:05.31Liquid_InkHowdy.
12:05.38Hachi_Hai Imp
12:05.49Hachi_I came up with an interesting concept for Brood mechs you may like
12:05.55AeoWhy are all of the characters on the wiki morally reprehensible to the strongest degree, or mine?
12:06.02AeoOr OJs
12:06.05Hachi_Eh?
12:06.16Aeoor imps
12:06.31Hachi_What are you on about now?
12:06.59AdmiralPandaHachi_: He's wailing on how apparently every character except his on the wiki is utterly morally reprehensible
12:07.02ImperiosHm?
12:07.12MonetNot this AGAIN
12:07.25ImperiosAeo: Ahem
12:07.45ImperiosWell, first, there ARE
12:07.50ImperiosI can name you a few
12:08.04ImperiosSecond, we liek gwimdark and moral complexity
12:08.16AeoThat isn't from onwe of the 3 users I mentioned?
12:08.20AeoI can think of 2
12:08.35MonetThird: Being a softie and a whiner gets you nowhere in life.
12:08.40Hachi_^
12:08.41AeoGrimdark is a fancy word for pretentiously stupid
12:08.51Hachi_Get out. Now.
12:08.54Liquid_InkNow now.
12:08.55AdmiralPanda^
12:08.57AdmiralPanda^^^
12:08.57Imperios^
12:09.00Imperios^^^^
12:09.23Hachi_You have just insulted nearly an entire community.
12:09.24ImperiosR17waiting4Impy: Aeon has crossed the line so I give you a license to whine for about one hour
12:09.27ImperiosIndeed.
12:09.45Liquid_InkJust because you prefer the idealist side of the sliding scale of idealism vs cynacism, you don't need to insult it.
12:09.51ImperiosExactly.
12:09.57R17Hahaha
12:10.03Liquid_InkEspecially since you know you're around people who enjoy it.
12:10.03AdmiralPandaYou've just insulted a lot of the world's fiction audience.
12:10.10ImperiosExactly.
12:10.12R17Aeo is a fancy word for unpretentiosly stupid
12:10.14R17CORRECTION
12:10.20AdmiralPandaThe fact of the matter is, mature audiences prefer mature works
12:10.21ImperiosTR17
12:10.22R17unpretentiously*
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12:10.24AdmiralPandaidealism is for children
12:10.30Technobliteratorhey, came the hell down.
12:10.39ImperiosSure
12:10.45AeoDo you understand what I mean by Grimdark?
12:10.47AdmiralPandaAgreed
12:10.54Hachi_Do YOU understand what grimdark is?
12:10.54AeoI mean darkness for no reason but being dark
12:11.01ImperiosTechnobliterator: HE did insult us, sorta
12:11.06TechnobliteratorYes, I saw that
12:11.08ImperiosAnd I wasn't mean to him
12:11.19R17Dum Aeo that's just plain dark
12:11.24TechnobliteratorBut people generally reacted in a hostile way
12:11.30ImperiosTrue
12:11.33MonetAeo: I think you're confusing grimdark with gritty and realistic.
12:11.34AeoWhen it serves nothing, is the result of nothing, and is just there because it's somehow more mature just because bad things happen.
12:11.41ImperiosI didn't, I just mentioned it has crossed the line
12:11.43R17quit your whining and starting arguments
12:11.45Liquid_InkI feel I was justified.
12:11.50Technobliteratoryeah, you were fine Imperios
12:11.53Technobliteratorand you Liquid
12:12.13ImperiosWell, THAT definition of grimdark isn't that dum
12:12.14ImperiosBUT
12:12.15Technobliteratoreveryone just chill out and hear aeo out, then we can make judgements
12:12.16Hachi_So we're getting shit and he's not despite the fact he insulted most, if not all, of us?
12:12.24ImperiosThere's nothing wrong with a little darkness
12:12.29Imperios*a little bit of darkness
12:12.29TechnobliteratorI am fully aware that he insulted you all
12:12.31ImperiosMy mind unravel;s
12:12.37AeoAlright, here is my position
12:12.45R17(p.s. it's bullshit)
12:12.47Technobliteratorbut it's a 5 on one argument that can only end badly
12:12.54ImperiosYour license is over R17
12:12.59ImperiosSILENSH
12:13.01R17Alright
12:13.01Technobliterator^
12:13.05R17show's over folks
12:13.08Liquid_InkI remember days where is 5 against 0
12:13.15Hachi_hur
12:13.19R17ah well
12:13.27Technobliteratorso go on, let's hear the oone side
12:13.32AeoDarkness if fine when it serves the story, or id the result of its premise. When it is there fore it's own sake because the story is trying to be "mature" or "realistic" it is pretentious.
12:13.41R17Meh
12:13.50AeoModoka Magica is good
12:13.52AdmiralPandaHold your responses gentlemen
12:13.58Hachi_You don't just go up to a bunch of Harry Potter fans and say "MAGIC SUCKS DICK"
12:14.13R17<PROTECTED>
12:14.13Liquid_InkLightness if fine when it serves the story, or id the result of its premise. When it is there fore it's own sake because the story is trying to be "good" or "idealistic" it is pretentious.
12:14.14Hachi_It's like you said what you did just to provoke a hostile reaction
12:14.23AeoA story called "The cute bunny suffers because of no reason" is not
12:14.32Technobliteratorit is indeed like that, as Hachi said
12:14.33Imperios>"You don't just go up to a bunch of Harry Potter fans and say "MAGIC SUCKS DICK""
12:14.35ImperiosAnti-Mage
12:14.37AdmiralPandaAeo, we don't write stories like that
12:14.38Hachi_ohgod
12:14.45Technobliteratorohoh
12:15.12R17Liquid_Ink: Makes more sense
12:15.16Hachi_Aeo: That story actually happens a lot
12:15.18Hachi_Wanna know why?
12:15.23Hachi_Because it's humorous
12:15.24Technobliterator&yeah, we generally don't make things dark for the sake of making things dark, it's largely for the sake of making things interesting
12:15.30AeoBecause you are all from Europe?
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12:15.39Hachi_Hai GD
12:15.41AdmiralPandaWhen you say something like that, it comes across as "The only reason you made Hel'Bre'K insane is for the sake of making him insa - WHAT did you just say?
12:15.43GD12Hello
12:15.46Technobliteratorurm
12:15.53GD12wot did i stumble into hur
12:15.53Technobliteratornone of those comments please, Aeo
12:15.55AdmiralPandaI'm sorry that just sounded a lot like... I don't even know how to respond to that
12:16.04Technobliterator^
12:16.05R17GD12: More Aeo arguments
12:16.08Liquid_InkAeo: You're now crossing the line of death.
12:16.11Sporeraptorhi
12:16.12AeoIt was a half-joke honestly
12:16.12Hachi_Aeo: Are you being racist now?
12:16.15Aeothat last one
12:16.17ImperiosIt's nationalist
12:16.20MonetI dare you to talk to any experienced soldier, businessman or politician and find out of they have an idealistic worldview. Chances are they don't because that would get them nowhere.
12:16.24ImperiosBut yeah THAT'S dum
12:16.34R17^
12:16.36Technobliteratoryeah, don't make half jokes like those in future
12:16.40AdmiralPandaLike seriously, I'm pretty sure you just moved on to insulting Europe. GG guys, I'm out
12:16.41Technobliteratorit's very easy to insult someone accidently
12:16.51R17^
12:16.58Hachi_Idealism is not a very interesting concept when it comes to fiction
12:17.04Hachi_Grimdark is often more popular
12:17.09Liquid_InkIt can be, if done right.
12:17.10GD12alright
12:17.14R17Take your pointless idealism elsewhere, like making child stories.
12:17.15GD12imma give my 5 cents worth
12:17.16Sporeraptorgtg
12:17.17ImperiosHachi_: If done right, it can be
12:17.19ImperiosFor example
12:17.21ImperiosLord of the Rings
12:17.27GD12I honestly don't see the point in arguing about fiction preferences
12:17.27AeoLook, Grimdark is by definition bad because, as I define it, it id pointless darkness.
12:17.28ImperiosPretty simple black & white
12:17.28TechnobliteratorR17: none of those comments either
12:17.31GD12Different people like different things
12:17.45ImperiosWe make things dark for the same of them being INTERESTING.
12:17.49AeoIdealism can at least be inspiring
12:17.51GD12The quality of fiction is ultimately (unless you go by aristotle's philosophy on drama) subjective
12:17.59R17Look, Noblebright is by definition bad because, as I define it, it id pointless brightness.
12:18.05Technobliteratoras Imperios said, it's largely for the sake of adding interest to stories
12:18.09Hachi_^
12:18.14AdmiralPanda^^
12:18.21AeoHow does it do that?
12:18.31Technobliteratorwell, look at it this way
12:18.31ImperiosSo, we add moral complexity so that the story would be more realistic
12:18.56MonetI prefer stories where the protagonist goes through a ton of dark and terrifying shit and comes out on top at the end. My reaon is because I can relate.
12:19.04TechnobliteratorThe "big bad Emperor" is a weaker villain than "the ultimate godlike Emperor, to whom millions of souls are sacrificed merely to keep him alive"
12:19.07GD12Aeo : You've seen that this pointless arguing doesn't get you anywhere, so why bother?
12:19.19ImperiosBut Emprah isn't evil
12:19.26TechnobliteratorI know, I was just making an example
12:19.29GD12Nobodys stopping you from going noblebright
12:19.45Hachi_It's funny because nearly everybody, except Emprah, is a villain in Warhammer
12:19.52AdmiralPandaThe Emperor was a gud guy. He wanted to make all of humanity psykers and ally with the Eldar
12:20.01GD12Thats only really from humanity's point of view to be honest
12:20.05TechnobliteratorI'd argue that Warhammer has no 'good guys'
12:20.10AdmiralPanda^
12:20.10Technobliteratoreveryone's evil in their own right
12:20.15Hachi_True
12:20.16Liquid_InkBlack and black morality.
12:20.20Hachi_There is no real innocence
12:20.20Technobliteratorand everyone's also good in their own right
12:20.25AdmiralPandaThat's why Game of Thrones is so awesome: Everyone has reasons to like and hate them.
12:20.30ImperiosYesh
12:20.31GD12aye
12:20.35GD12except joffrey
12:20.36Technobliteratorblack and black is one way to describe it, but I'd just say grey
12:20.37ImperiosChaos is a force of freedom and honour, in fact
12:20.38GD12Joffreys just a cunt
12:20.41AeoAnyone who argues that WH40K is good is clearly an alien. Maybe I am an alien.
12:20.45ImperiosDark grey and dark grey
12:20.45AdmiralPandaThat's the true meaning of grimdark, everything is so shitty you have to find something to like
12:20.46MonetEveryone hates Joffrey.
12:20.53Technobliteratorjesus
12:20.55Technobliteratornone of those comments
12:20.58Hachi_Just get out Aeo
12:21.00AdmiralPandaAnd in finding that something you like, you find something to really cling to
12:21.01R17Aeo how about you just shut up about grimdark and focus a lot more on your own storytelling or leave SporeWiki because our stuff doesn't suit your tastes?
12:21.07AeoLike, I mean to say that I find the idea alien
12:21.10Technobliteratorany more comments like that and I'll be forced to kick you from the channel
12:21.13MonetAeo what are you going to insult next? D&D?
12:21.17GD12This is honestly a stupid argument
12:21.19R17^
12:21.26GD12Aeo let me talk to you on privchat before you say anything else
12:21.31AeoI'm sorry okay
12:21.41Technobliteratorthe best advice I can honestly give you is, if you don't like a certain fiction, don't read it
12:21.46Hachi_^
12:21.47ImperiosIndeeeeed
12:21.49AdmiralPanda^^
12:21.57Liquid_Ink^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
12:22.01Imperiosthat's fine, just don't do it again
12:22.02Hachi_Nobody is forcing you to read it but you're just openly insulting it
12:22.05Technobliteratorthe other advice: don't insult someone for having different tastes/points of view
12:22.18AdmiralPanda^
12:22.24Technobliteratoreven if none of your insults were direct or meant to cause harm, they all did
12:22.43ImperiosIt's okay to believe that fiction X sucks
12:22.55ImperiosBut going and raging is... well it's not good
12:23.08ImperiosKeep your opinion to yourself, like we all do
12:23.10R17Aeo: Don't just be sorry, think for one fucking second.
12:23.11Technobliteratorit is, it's not okay to believe that "fiction X sucks and should change and everyone else should think fiction X sucks too"
12:23.35Imperiosbut it's okay to have an opinion
12:23.41ImperiosR17: Shut up for one fucking second
12:23.47Hachi_It's like telling a racist joke amidst a multi-national audience
12:23.48TechnobliteratorR17: I hate to be a douche, you're completely right, but comments like those won't help the situation
12:23.50Liquid_InkAeo, people can hold viewpoints which nothing will move them from. If I spent a day trying to convince you that liberalism was superior to conservatism, would your view change?
12:23.59Technobliterator^
12:24.24Technobliteratorat this point
12:24.26AeoLiquid_Ink what gave you the impression that I am a conservative?
12:24.28Technobliteratorbest thing to do is
12:24.36TechnobliteratorDISCUSSION CLOSED
12:24.41TechnobliteratorLET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT
12:24.42Liquid_InkIt was just an example.
12:24.42AdmiralPanda^
12:24.43Technobliteratori like pizza
12:24.44ImperiosHow about
12:24.49Imperioshm
12:24.50ImperiosErm
12:24.50Hachi_Technobliterator: Wanna hear my concept for Brood mechs?
12:24.52Imperiosddddddddd
12:24.54Liquid_InkI like pizza too.
12:24.54Technobliteratoroh?
12:24.56Technobliteratortell me more
12:24.57GD12make spider walker u
12:24.59Liquid_InkA bit.
12:25.02Hachi_Brood mechs aren't giant robots
12:25.04Hachi_They're giant cyborgs
12:25.09Liquid_InkSometimes I don't.
12:25.11Technobliteratorooooh...hm
12:25.12GD12o
12:25.19Technobliteratorso
12:25.25Technobliteratormade from biological and mechanical mass?
12:25.29Hachi_Jah
12:25.33Technobliteratorwell
12:25.40Technobliteratorhow does that work?
12:25.50Liquid_InkEasily.
12:25.56Hachi_They are birthed like normal creatures and then go through a cybernetic implantation process to become military-grade mechs
12:26.14Hachi_The pilot donates genetic material to them in their egg stage and later becomes the dedicated pilot
12:26.14Technobliteratornow
12:26.17Technobliteratorthat's interesting
12:26.18Liquid_InkCybernetics, artificially made cells, the list goes on.
12:26.32Technobliteratorpilot donating genetic material?
12:26.34GD12Gud concept
12:26.43Technobliteratorhmm...the awkward part is, what happens when the pilot designs
12:26.46Technobliteratorresigns*
12:26.52GD12The other thing i've contemplated is that the pilot is in the womb of one of these mechs
12:26.53Technobliteratorand a mech is still around with his genes?
12:26.54Technobliteratorlol
12:27.10GD12like its entombed in the contorl center of whatever
12:27.10Hachi_The mech either gets obliterated or it gets passed on to the pilot's siblings or children
12:27.17Technobliteratorah, I see
12:27.32Technobliteratorthis sounds like one of those situations where the pilot is never able to leave the mech
12:27.38Hachi_Oh they can leave
12:27.47Hachi_The mech remains dormant until usage
12:28.04Technobliteratorhow does the mech eat?
12:28.15Liquid_InkWith a mouth.
12:28.23Hachi_It either gets fed during dormancy, or it doesn't require it
12:28.28Hachi_They have some control over Essence
12:28.30Technobliteratoroh
12:28.31R17or through a feeding tube?
12:28.40Technobliteratorfeeding tube sounds most interesting to me
12:28.51Hachi_Jah they probably get fed with a feeding tube
12:29.07Hachi_They still retain some organs and can still feel pain and bleed like any normal creature
12:29.18Hachi_But they cannot act independantely
12:29.25Technobliteratorin fact, I'm thinking of a situation where the mech doesn't need to run on fuel because it can simply run on food, which is the advantage of a cyborg over an ordinary robot
12:29.45GD12that or it has general purpose fuel
12:29.51GD12It can take in kerosene or grass
12:30.02GD12after all if it can alter and process it at the atomic level
12:30.04Technobliteratoryup, that's what I'm thinking
12:30.08GD12then it can get fuel
12:30.11Liquid_InkWhat if the robot had solar panels?
12:30.20Technobliteratorhachi y u so clever that I never thought of this idea myslef
12:30.22Technobliterator:c
12:30.25Hachi_hur
12:30.46Hachi_So yeah, cyber-giants with Essence count as Brood mechs
12:30.47Technobliterator"[13:30] <Liquid_Ink> What if the robot had solar panels?"
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12:30.54GD12Hachi_ : should there be a symbiotic relationship between pilot and mech
12:30.57JepardiHi
12:30.58AdmiralPandaSkynet lul
12:31.02GD12so that if the mech gets hurt the pilot feels pain
12:31.06Technobliteratorpfft, they aren't solar panels, they're chromosomes, and it's photosynthesis
12:31.10Technobliteratorhii
12:31.11AdmiralPandawait no skynet was terminator
12:31.12MonetSeeing an essence-using robot would be cool.
12:31.25GD12skynet was terminator yes
12:31.30GD12Essence mechs are pretty genius
12:31.46TechnobliteratorI had an essence using robot in the Guild of Shadows
12:31.51Hachi_GD12: I imagine the pilot and the mech communicate in a way that makes moving and fighting easier
12:31.51Technobliteratorit basically 'emulates' essence use
12:32.02Hachi_Through neural implants and such
12:32.07ImperiosTechnobliterator: Chromosomes?
12:32.10ImperiosWat?
12:32.13GD12The pilot should really be entombed in the center of the mech hur
12:32.18Technobliteratori dunno
12:32.20Liquid_Inkhugs Techno.
12:32.21Technobliteratori suck at biologyt
12:32.22GD12in a womb of nerve bundles
12:32.39ImperiosI c
12:32.40Liquid_InkThat was a very late post.
12:32.48GD12its chlorophylls which do photosynrthesis
12:32.57Technobliteratoryeaht
12:32.58Technobliteratorthat
12:33.00Technobliteratoridk
12:33.03Technobliteratori sucked at biology
12:33.07Technobliteratorand am glad i never have to study it again
12:33.08Technobliteratorlol
12:33.32Hachi_In fact, being a mech pilot in the Brood is the only legitamate job, aside from being a member of the Shadow Institute, in which it is a legal requirement for cybernetic implants upon one's person.
12:33.52Liquid_InkI'm off to bed now.
12:34.01Hachi_Otherwise, any other case would have you executed for dishonouring yourself
12:34.06Technobliteratordo I remember this wrong if I thought that the Brood of War disliked mechanical implants?
12:34.12Hachi_They do
12:34.15Technobliteratorit was one of the things they held against UNO
12:34.36Technobliteratorthen suddenly, 2nd Borealis War happens, and they're now all bffs and smiley and happy and yaaaaaaaaaay
12:34.49MonetI considered an essence droid for the Theians. I talked with wormy in that the droids could mimic the 4-D nature of how Elemental Energy works. But they act as more a conduit for a Theian user than generate it themselves.
12:34.53GD12prosthetics <=> seppuku
12:35.00Hachi_Jah
12:35.09Hachi_Brood is actually neutral to UNO at the moment
12:35.15GD12brb
12:35.28Technobliteratorsoon, everyone will be neutral to UNO or dislike them
12:35.41TechnobliteratorI said UNO were turning dark, and I haven't forgotten that promise
12:35.48Hachi_c:
12:36.12Technobliteratormightn't be permanent though, depending on feedback
12:36.27Technobliteratorwhere's oluap?
12:36.33Hachi_Dunno
12:36.39Technobliteratoris he online on steam?
12:36.46ImperiosThe Hivemind is dying, one by one
12:36.47ImperiosFirst Cyr
12:36.48ImperiosThen Xho
12:36.49ImperiosThen OP
12:36.55Technobliteratorhur
12:37.06Technobliteratorpretty sure they aren't dead, just hibernating
12:37.23ImperiosSomeone is hunting them... him... it... whatever
12:37.31Technobliteratoralso I should mention that I'm planning on taking a break from dota for a month or so
12:37.40Technobliteratorbecause of starcraft and you guys
12:37.43Technobliterator<3
12:38.38Technobliteratorwell, also because I fell out with a friend on mine in dota and then figured that it would get to the point where the game would become unhealthy so I decided to just stop now before it does
12:38.46ImperiosI see
12:39.06ImperiosI've started playing Dota less as well
12:39.10Imperioscos MOSS OFFOCT
12:39.31ImperiosI could also buy Starcraft
12:39.31ImperiosNational sport and everything
12:39.53Technobliteratorit's never a good idea to play one game soley so much, breaks every now and then are probably the best way to go about stuff
12:40.07Hachi_Imperios: Could I ask you a favour?
12:40.08Technobliteratorso if you see me in game in dota 2, it's because I'm watching a tournament, not playing a game
12:40.15ImperiosHm? Okay
12:40.40Hachi_Would you be able to outfit the basic Brood mech model to look somewhat like a convincing mech?
12:40.56ImperiosCould do
12:41.04Hachi_It's supposed to have both fleshy bits and armoured bits
12:48.56Technobliteratortest
12:50.04Hachi_Imperios: Here's the base model http://i.imgur.com/K6bbUah.png
12:50.25Hachi_Yeah it's headless but they're supposed to wear armour that makes it appear as if they have heads
12:50.33Hachi_Like a helmet or such
12:55.14AeoHachi_ Do bunnys find themselves cute?
12:55.20Aeo*bunnies
12:55.36Hachi_Of course we do, it's a source of pride
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12:57.23Technobliteratordumbo
12:57.32Hachi_Hai Oluap
12:59.41OluapPlayerhai fuglies
13:05.15OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: You seen the new Dracs yet?
13:05.30Technobliteratormmmaaaaaybe
13:05.59OluapPlayerProper answer pls
13:06.47Technobliteratoryeah, I have
13:06.50Technobliteratorgj on them
13:17.16MonetCan I have public opinion on a certain fiction-related matter?
13:17.20Technobliteratork
13:17.41AdmiralPandasure
13:18.27MonetWhich title seems more apt to people for Uriel as of now: "Uriel the magnificent" or "Uriel the Sublime"?
13:18.46AdmiralPandaMagnificent
13:18.58AdmiralPandaMore intentionally up himself
13:19.36Technobliterator^
13:21.16MonetI realise there may be a certain air of arrogence to "sublime" which is why I asked.
13:21.51ImperiosMagnificent is more generic
13:21.56ImperiosOluapPlayer: New Dracs?
13:22.18AeoUriel the Super-Special-Awesome :P
13:22.20AdmiralPandaI think Magnificent is much more arrogant, but it's the perfect title
13:23.26MonetImpy: Is that a vote for sublime?
13:24.31AeoUriel the Enlightened?
13:27.09Aeoclaims the title of "Official chat murderer."
13:27.31MonetI think Uriel has done more than become enlightened.
13:28.14ImperiosUriel the Enlighteled is a good idea, really
13:28.20ImperiosMonet: More or less
13:28.36AeoAnd yet its the one of his virtures that he seems to take the most pride in. It's supposed to be the reason he's likable.
13:28.46AeoIt's his chief virtue.
13:29.06AdmiralPandaI don't really agree tbh
13:29.18AdmiralPandaI think his chief virtue is how grounded he is
13:29.43AdmiralPandaOf all the 'leader' characters in the wiki, I honestly feel like he's the one you'd most be able to reach out and touch so to speak
13:29.58AeoNo. Iovera wins that.
13:30.04AeoOr Tyraz
13:30.27AeoOr any of the Aeon candidates.
13:30.30MonetDunno, Iovera is somewhat quiet and stoic.
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13:30.38AdmiralPandaIovera is a little too detached to be a grounded character imo, and Tyraz is a little off hte ball
13:30.51OluapPlayingImperios: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130525223553/spore/images/b/ba/Dracogonarious_Image.png
13:31.04Hachi_It's true, Tyraz is pretty emotionally unstable
13:31.16MonetTyraz may have dome some amazing and heroic things. The problem is he thinks he's beyond redemtion or forgiveness.
13:31.20AeoUriel is too grounded for me. It results in him not only seeing things as they are, but not hoping and trying to make things better.
13:31.44Hachi_I counter your claim
13:31.47AeoWell, he comes off that way to me.
13:31.50Hachi_With the existence of the FUCKING AGC
13:32.23AeoPerhaps its because my main exposure to him is in his debates with the LoP in PMs
13:32.31AdmiralPandaHachi_: Eat a snickers
13:32.40Hachi_Why?
13:32.51AdmiralPandaBecause you go crazy and kill knights when you get hungry
13:33.00Hachi_eats a Snickers
13:33.04MonetAeo: That's because most of their discussions involve questioning the nature of the Imperium's slave system.
13:33.04AdmiralPandaBetter?
13:33.12Hachi_cuddles AdmiralPanda
13:33.13Hachi_Better
13:33.17AdmiralPandacuddles back
13:33.34MonetAnd if Uriel really did not hope to make things better, would Tyraz REALLY be as reliant on his support as he is now?
13:33.55AdmiralPandaI want it on the record that our love is purely platonic, and of the bromance variety
13:34.23AeoAlikos - If you do not oppose improvement, why oppose my attempts to improve things?
13:34.34ImperiosOluapPlaying: Me likes
13:34.45AeoAlikos - You go so far as to seek to imprison me for eternity.
13:34.54MonetUriel - No I don't.
13:35.17AeoAlikos - Well... the inquistion does.
13:35.36AeoAlikos - I have 5 corpses of inquisitors who have invaded my moon.
13:36.00MonetAeon before you go any further I'd like to remind you that what the Inquisition does DOES NOT RELATE TO THE IMPERIUM.
13:36.13AeoWhat?
13:36.19AdmiralPandaThey're separate organisations
13:36.22ImperiosYes
13:36.26AeoIsn't it a branch of the DI's government?
13:36.29ImperiosIt was founded by Impies but now they're separate
13:36.29AdmiralPandaNope
13:37.36MonetThere is a clause in the Imperium's manifest that the Grand Senate takes no responsability for the Inqusition's actions.
13:38.49Aeouses the "enslave dragon" spell on Monet and mounts him with intent to ride about the mountains.
13:39.03R17Wow
13:39.03AdmiralPandacounterspells
13:39.24MonetYeah--no
13:39.41AdmiralPandaDw bro, I got your back
13:39.54AdmiralPandacasts Null Zone and then stands next to Monet
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13:40.08MonetUriel - Personally I'd prefer it if you, Alikos, would stop being such an interfering little child.
13:40.25Imperioscasts Mass Dispel on Uriel
13:40.31Imperios*Monet
13:40.40AeoAlikos - By which you mean spend 99% of my time doing nothing or being less eficient?
13:41.01Aeorolls a crit and kills AdmiralPanda in one hit.
13:41.05AdmiralPandaIt's cool Impy, I have a Null Zone set up
13:41.30Aeodisables the null zone with a puppy.
13:41.36AdmiralPandahas Combat Reflexes and avoids the attack
13:41.48OfficerJackalIncinerates the puppy.
13:41.59AeoMonet may I please ride you?
13:42.03MonetUriel - I don't care, find something else to do with your life if you have to.
13:42.05R17Shagathnar - Why don't you just SHUT UP and stop making these stupid arguments?! Stupid alien being so stupid and argumentative that it bothers even us, the Shagathnar.
13:42.07MonetNo.
13:42.23R17(Shagathnar's comment was to Alikos btw)
13:42.43MonetNo you cannot ride me and if you try toclimb on my back I will shake you off and maybe step on you.
13:43.08AdmiralPandaAnd then I will feed you to my dire kittens
13:43.11R17Shagathnar - and we aren't even tuning in on this, the signal's so poopied strong that it reaches our deep FRIKKIN radar!
13:43.13AdmiralPandawho are enchanted with magic fire
13:43.45AeoYOu threaten a shrew with kittens?
13:44.38AdmiralPandaThat is actually a highly significant threat if you think about it
13:44.48AdmiralPandagiven that shrews are basically mice with less senses
13:45.03AdmiralPandaand don't forget, these are dire kittens. Who are on fire.
13:45.38Aeowat does "dire" mean here?
13:45.51AdmiralPandabigger and more badass than the normal version
13:46.24OfficerJackalhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcaEdnFLb1U - BEEEEEESEVENTEEEEEEN BAWLLLLMER.
13:48.29MonetI think I might go with sublime. As impy suggested it is not as generic.
13:48.42Imperios_Iovera does not like titles
13:48.51Imperios_She prefers to be referred to as "Iovera"
13:49.06AdmiralPandaShe not gun like Hel' then :P
13:49.09MonetAlso, tiny spoiler: In an upcoming New Dawn chapter Uriel faces down another essence being.
13:49.18Imperios_Then again, Iovera IS a title
13:49.28Imperios_Kinda like the popes' names
13:49.31Imperios_Benedictus, etc
13:49.53AdmiralPandaIt does make me wonder how someone would feel having Hel' address them as 'my Lord' or 'my Lady'
13:50.09MonetI always wondered why "Rodrigo Borgia" became "Alexander".
13:50.28AdmiralPandaoh god, I just thought of one ridiculous circumstance which I must prevent from happening
13:50.59AdmiralPandaIf Uriel tasked Hel' with protecting Hachi, he would be calling Hachi 'my Lord'
13:51.07AdmiralPandaI cannot let this happen
13:51.26ImperiosIovera was partially inspired by Mule from Asimov's Foundation series
13:51.47R17Sublime is a rarely used word I think.
13:52.02ImperiosA certain degree of humbleness is what I <s>ripped off</s> took from him
13:52.44R17first and last time I've heard the usage of sublime was in Emperor: Battle for Dune.
13:52.51R17"This is war! Sublime war!"
13:54.59MonetBasically sublime = greatness/quality beyond measure.
13:59.10R17connection check
14:03.12Imperios_How about replacing test with "cc"
14:03.17Imperios_As in connection check
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14:11.20Tek0516hi
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14:13.39GD12Hello
14:13.53Tek0516hry
14:13.56Tek0516*hey
14:14.12Hachi_Hai GD
14:14.24GD12hi
14:15.16Tek0516how's those exams going?
14:16.09GD12This batch of exams are over
14:16.14GD12I have another barch this week
14:16.18GD12and another batch next weekend
14:16.25GD12I'll be on IRC more often though
14:16.34Tek0516Good luck with them.
14:19.38Tek0516~seen ecoraptor
14:19.45infobotecoraptor <51523776@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.81.82.55.118> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 8d 21h 56m 44s ago, saying: 'Just made a possible Laidar spawn because I had nothing else to do'.
14:20.11AdmiralPandaIRC died, I'ma go sleep
14:21.03Tek0516~ded
14:21.03infoboti heard ded is ...ded
14:22.40Tek0516brb
14:27.54R17connection check
14:28.40Imperios_Hachi_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Brood_Mech.png Wish I could add more stuff to the legs but alas, complexity is a harsh mistress
14:28.49Imperios_Also
14:28.58Imperios_http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/4/44/Q%27rda.png Noo species, dunno what for
14:29.16Hachi_Ooh lovin the Brood mech design
14:29.20OluapPlayerYou made the species before thinking of what to do with them?
14:33.05Imperios_Yes
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14:33.34Imperios_Basically I was playing Spore with my sis, then I thought I could remake the creatures we made into something cool-looking
14:33.49Imperios_Well they have a personality, sorta
14:34.07Imperios_Travel round the galaxy stealing stuff
14:37.10R17Blod Rehvens?
14:39.54R17connection check
14:41.07OfficerJackalR17: Loud and clear.,
14:41.26R17not loud and clear enough
14:41.35R17btw I'm gay
14:41.35R17jk
14:41.46R17okay
14:41.50R17that was way too random
14:42.53Imperios_More or less, yes
14:43.04Tek0516Lol I found an empire of Drakodominatus Zealots in Spore.
14:44.33Imperios_I KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM
14:44.40Imperios_I'll put 'e m in Kahtahr
14:44.57Tek0516who?
14:46.03Imperios_http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/4/44/Q%27rda.png These guys
14:46.15Tek0516Kahtahr?
14:46.23Imperios_Katar
14:46.54Tek0516Ah.
14:47.10Imperios_If Angrybirds allows, of course
14:48.32Tek0516Well he's somewhere around here.
14:52.36OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/c/c9/Marinoxidiz.png get dunked
14:55.25Hachi_Ooh I like that
14:55.35Imperios_Sharkz
14:56.54OluapPlayerdeemun salamanders
14:58.48MonetVery nice! Bery intimidating.
14:59.50OluapPlayeri gon throw dese at u in fog war remake
15:03.20OluapPlayerNow to remake Karnak and Marigrax
15:09.30OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/d/dc/Captain_Karnak2.png "Your father screamed REAL good when he died!"
15:09.59MonetOkay...Karnak looks chilling.
15:10.21Hachi_He does look pretty fierce
15:11.20Tek0516agreed.
15:20.06OluapPlayerNow let's see
15:20.07OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/archive/c/c8/20120226112857!Marigrax2.png before
15:20.12OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/c/c8/Marigrax2.png after
15:20.38Hachi_I prefer original lelelelel
15:20.51Hachi_Nah seriously, I really like the new appearance of the Marinox
15:21.14Hachi_Marigrax and Karnak included
15:22.01OluapPlayerMarigrax goes through a lot
15:22.16OluapPlayerHe goes from http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/f/f1/Marigrax1.png to this http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/c/c8/Marigrax2.png to this http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120324015156/spore/images/c/c1/Chaos_Marigrax.png
15:22.40Hachi_Geezush
15:23.08OluapPlayerMarigrax - im gon terrorize all of u in the future
15:23.10OluapPlayercue Borealis War
15:26.13MonetLooking at those parts makes me wonder, EA must have been colossal pricks to not give them to us Spore players.
15:26.35OluapPlayerYeah Dark Injection is full of neat stuff
15:27.09OluapPlayerNow I'm making Fog-War-Errr
15:27.13OluapPlayerHe's gonna wear a mask
15:30.25OluapPlayerlots of ded
15:30.54Technobliteratoraye
15:30.57R17Nurgle whyyyy
15:31.23R17oh Emprah
15:31.31R17his plagues are going to take me too
15:31.55R17AGHHHHHHHHHHHH
15:32.16OluapPlayerdumb
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15:32.26Hachi_Hello boys! I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
15:33.03Technobliteratorno hello for me
15:33.10Technobliterator:(
15:33.17Hachi_No cuz you should be in the kitchen
15:33.21Hachi_Making a sandwich for my return
15:33.30TechnobliteratorTOO BAD
15:33.46Hachi_:(
15:34.01Technobliteratorlaughs evilly
15:34.29Hachi_I was going to exchange a pizza for that sandwich
15:34.35Hachi_But it seems you don't want it
15:34.49TechnobliteratorIt'd have your bunny marks all over it
15:34.51TechnobliteratorSo no thanks
15:35.00Hachi_DATS RACIST
15:35.15Technobliteratorit is, and what you said was sexist
15:35.17Technobliteratorso jokes on you
15:36.11Hachi_Sexism is wrong and being wrong is for women.
15:36.33Technobliteratorthing with women is that we're very good at getting what we want
15:36.54Hachi_Spray tans and jerky boyfriends
15:37.08Technobliteratorhey i don't have jerky boyfriends :c
15:37.16Technobliteratorand I could never be bothered with spray tans
15:39.33Hachi_That's all you see in Essex hurhur
15:39.44Technobliteratorpretty much
15:39.46Hachi_The place should just be completely orange
15:40.04TechnobliteratorI like orange though, it's a nice colour
15:40.23Hachi_I wouldn't say it makes for a nice skin colour
15:40.33Technobliteratornever said it did
15:40.35Hachi_It makes you look radioactive
15:40.42Technobliteratorhah
15:41.01Hachi_I mean, I like boobs, not oranges.
15:41.19Technobliteratorapples are nicer
15:41.27Technobliteratori like apples
15:41.28Hachi_Oh jah jah
15:41.58Technobliteratorsee, I win
15:41.58Technobliteratorbecause
15:42.14Technobliteratoryou're struggling to turn that into sexual connotation
15:42.42Hachi_Damn you girl
15:42.48Hachi_You're good at dis
15:42.50OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2bwCT2ltzs
15:42.57Technobliteratortold you, us women always get what we want ^^
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15:43.42OluapPlayerdum
15:43.47OluapPlayerTechnoIsBack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2bwCT2ltzs
15:43.50TechnoIsBackk
15:43.53TechnoIsBacki'll watch now
15:43.56Hachi_"[16:42] <@Technobliterator> told you, us women always get what we want"
15:43.59Hachi_HOW ABOUT DISCONNED
15:44.09TechnoIsBackthat doesn't count
15:44.17TechnoIsBackI never wanted or not wanted that
15:45.00TechnoIsBackOluapPlayer: lmfao wtf
15:45.11TechnoIsBackhahahaha
15:45.12TechnoIsBack:D
15:45.30OluapPlayernumnumnumnumnumnumnumnum
15:47.50TechnoIsBackmorphs to replicate
15:48.03OluapPlayerdum
15:48.30Technobliteratorliek u
15:57.20OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/a/ae/NewErrr.png Fog War Errr
15:57.36Technobliterator+1
15:57.39Technobliteratorniiice
15:57.49Hachi_Wait, is that his face or a mask?
15:57.56Technobliteratormask
15:58.06Hachi_Ah I see, looks pretty epic
15:58.50OluapPlayerNew canon has him surviving the Kaizox invasion but suffering major disfiguration on his face
16:01.11TechnobliteratorErrr - Nobody cared who I was till I put on the mask...
16:01.20Technobliteratoractually
16:01.28OluapPlayerErrr - JERKON. I'LL LET YOU SEE MY PEENIS.
16:01.32Technobliteratoridk how many of you will get that reference except imp, who isn't even here
16:01.43Hachi_Nah I get the reference hur
16:01.49Technobliteratoryou're cool then
16:02.10OluapPlayeraka http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kANRk_fshx4
16:04.10Technobliteratoregoraptor's so good at bane's voice
16:04.19Hachi_I never would have thought that was Arin
16:04.49OluapPlayerArin can do any voice ever
16:05.16Hachi_I wanna see him do Jon's voice
16:05.36Technobliteratornah, he sucks at snake's voice hur
16:05.41OluapPlayerHachi_: http://youtu.be/OY5vWfB8_1M?t=2m48s 2:48 foward = Death shenanigans
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16:06.18Sporeraptorhi
16:07.40Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Dawn/Year_5#A_Lesson_In_Pain finished that chapter. There's another sub-chapter under it.
16:13.29Technobliteratorwell, looks like i'm going home now
16:13.31Technobliteratorbyee!!
16:13.37OluapPlayerAnother thing I'll do is not have Errr turn into a monster anymore
16:13.47OluapPlayerIt's too out of character
16:15.19Hachi_Pyrak at his best
16:16.24Hachi_Before I make a page for him, what do you guys think of Pyrak?
16:17.05MonetThere's a certain made-of-iron quality to having a superheated knife blade slip through your palm and not giving a single fuck about it.
16:17.30OluapPlayerIn all honest I don't like him
16:18.05OluapPlayerI don't like his "look how important I am suck my dik" attitude, reminds me too much of Sollow
16:18.45MonetWell he is The Dragon.
16:19.06Hachi_True, he was designed to be a character that nobody would take a liking to. But unlike Sollow, he's something of a kiss-ass
16:19.46MonetThe only person he isn't a complete self-important prick to is Volkarus for obvious reasons.
16:20.24OluapPlayerHe already seems like a complete self-important prick to me
16:21.43MonetI think the whole point of him is to make you feel sorry for Oreleva.
16:22.12OluapPlayerThere's that. In my opinion, at this point it has become more annoying than really worth feeling sorry
16:25.21Hachi_Lucky thing is that Pyrak isn't much for going onto the frontline so he isn't seen often
16:25.57Hachi_He's a scientist and scientists dunt fight
16:26.11OluapPlayerJerkon - fuk u
16:26.24Hachi_rite bbl dinna tiem
16:40.12MonetI say Pyrak is more tolerable than Sollow because Sollow says "being dead is great" even though he very literally a walking corpse due to technology and that 99.9% of peopel who experience death can't express how great it is.
16:40.37MonetAlso Pyrak is sociopathic and saditic, Sollow appears completely out of his (former?) mind.
16:41.16Hachi_The two are different sorts of dislike hur
16:42.19Hachi_Pyrak is the sort of guy who would exploit the undead for his own entertainment
16:42.33MonetWith sollow I kept saying to myself "dude shut the fuck up. You're only enjoying being dead because Falrik was such a dickhead he didn't want to bury you"
16:44.20Hachi_Pyrak tends to limit his extent of speech. He doesn't like talking.
16:45.26OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/e/e0/Second_War_of_Black_Fog.png many baddies
16:46.03Hachi_Mordati - ERR BITCH PLEASE
16:46.06Hachi_ERRR*
16:46.22SporeraptorAeo: Is Zein under your control or under TheBuilders ?
16:46.57MonetArsac - I'll take you all on!
16:47.26OluapPlayerhur
16:47.50OluapPlayerWe should have Arsac meet Marigrax in the remake, so all the implications of the Borealis War become even worse
16:49.19MonetIf she does encounter Tyraz in this I say we keep them detached.
16:50.33MonetAfter all when they first met in the Andromeda War she *did* want to decapitate him.
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16:51.07OluapPlayerIf we keep the Inquisition participation only in Andromeda then they'll not meet
16:51.57OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/9/9b/Eleielord.png and this friendly bug is the leader of the Andromedan invasion
16:51.58MonetIn the current canon the Imperium has had colonies in both Andromeda and the Milky Way for millennia.
16:52.51Sporeraptorhi
16:53.14MonetBuut seeing as how the Brood/Zazane Empire aren't going to be in Andromeda suring the second for war ,Arsac could be leading an Androemdan crusade.
16:53.46MonetBTW Hachi did you see the sub-chapter after "A lesson in Pain"?
16:53.53Hachi_Jah I did
16:54.21Hachi_Needless to say, the doctor who allowed the surgery is fucked
16:54.39OluapPlayerIf it makes Arsac any happier, the Balanar did not exist back in the Second Fog War
16:55.00OluapPlayerSo one less strong demon race
16:55.25MonetDoctor - I....think I might stay on Prasaima V for the duratino of the rest of my life.
16:56.13MonetIf the doctor is fucked, what about Oreleva?
16:56.58MonetClass-35 is high-endcybernetics. The sort of implants popular with well-endowed mercenaries and the social elite.
16:57.21Hachi_Pyrak will know she had the surgery from her current appearance
16:57.28Hachi_Nobody can really recover that quickly
16:58.26MonetHmm, she might still have some scarring but that might have been negated a bit by the nanospray she was given after.
16:58.55MonetShe was going to have scars anyway since that incident with the elevator and Pyrak's punch did major damage ot her body.
16:59.48Hachi_Pyrak is awfully brutal for a scientist
17:00.17MonetHmm, perhaps another affectation is her movement? Most of her skeletal muscle has been replaced with an artificial muscle fibre analogue and she's going to need to get used to it.
17:01.30OluapPlayerHmm what to do
17:02.45Hachi_Make Kezoreg-Maryah babies
17:03.04OluapPlayeri dun dat alredy
17:03.28OfficerJackalJesus bloody christ, fucking new router setup problems.
17:04.13OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/5/58/Kez_Maryah_Child.png dun dat ages ago
17:04.30Hachi_Nao make it canon
17:04.55OluapPlayerKez - i wanna put my WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINER      Maryah - deres nowhere to put ur WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINER
17:05.06Hachi_Kez - hao but ur mouth
17:05.10Hachi_bout*
17:05.25OluapPlayerMaryah - babbies dun com frum dere u dum
17:06.00Hachi_Kez - ILL MAKE DEM CUM FRUM DERE
17:07.27OluapPlayerIt might not be the best idea considering Maryah/Spinkers in general have the mouth structure of a shark
17:08.05OluapPlayerThat means teeth. Many, many teeth
17:08.33Hachi_Kez - FUK DAM OUCH ;A;
17:08.47OluapPlayerMaryah - i sed it wus a bad idea but U NEVER LISTEN 2 ME
17:09.21Hachi_Kez - less talku, moar blowy
17:09.28Hachi_Cue more bite marks
17:09.56OluapPlayerKez becomes wiener-less
17:11.49OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoB543m9Zzw Ad Grumps
17:12.32Hachi_I'M NOT EVEN SELLING SHIRTS
17:17.26Hachi_My sides, they hurt
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17:20.48OluapPlayerI wish I could buy one
17:23.31Hachi_Oluap wants one of Arin's dragon dildos
17:23.49OluapPlayerur talkin bout urself dere
17:24.11Sporeraptorhi
17:24.16Hachi_mehbeh
17:24.18Hachi_i meen nu
17:37.18Jepardipeep
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17:52.44Wormyhi3
17:52.53Wormyi saw the new trek film
17:53.30Hachi_Hai Wormy
17:53.33Hachi_What was it like?
17:54.04WormyIt was amazing
17:54.32WormyGreat story, no cliches I could see, but plenty of references to Star Trek
17:54.34Technobliteratori saw it too
17:54.35Technobliteratorloved it
17:55.04WormyIt was cool to see London in the 23rd century
18:00.10Sporeraptorhi
18:01.43Wormybbl
18:12.33Sporeraptorbbl
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18:15.35infobotACTION hunts stressedjackal down and lays eggs in his digestive system
18:16.13StressedJackal~test
18:16.14infobotACTION hunts stressedjackal down and lays eggs in his digestive system
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18:23.52Hachi_Hai Imp
18:25.11ImperiosHai
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18:27.58MonetHave I missed anything?
18:29.52Hachi_Oluap likes dragon dildos
18:30.19ImperiosYo Mon
18:30.43MonetOh...kay.
18:34.55OluapPlayernoe
18:35.22Hachi_dun lie u
18:35.48OluapPlayerur da one who talks bout it
18:36.05OluapPlayerImperios Technobliterator: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/e/e0/Second_War_of_Black_Fog.png new Fog War banner
18:36.29ImperiosErrr has a mask now?
18:36.57OluapPlayerHad
18:37.34OluapPlayerHis face was disfigured during the Kaizox battle so he'll use a mask during the Fog War
18:38.30ImperiosWill he still turn into a creepy monster at the finale?
18:38.49OluapPlayerNo
18:38.56ImperiosDum
18:38.59ImperiosI loved that part
18:40.01OluapPlayerIt doesn't fit the character I'm planning him to be
18:40.33ImperiosThough it's nice that he didn't die during the Battle of Kaizox anymore
18:41.55ImperiosI wonder what is he going to do in the Second War
18:42.28ImperiosFrom what you've said I can guess that his personality is going to chang
18:42.29Imperiose
18:43.18OluapPlayerWell I never developed him during the original Fog War so he had no personality before
18:43.29ImperiosHe was a, well... a mad scientist
18:43.52AngrybirdsBack.
18:45.23OluapPlayerhttp://youtu.be/-YkI5hAN5FU?t=8m4s this is one of the explanations for why he will no longer turn into a monster
18:47.46ImperiosJOKER ON STEROIDS
18:48.29ImperiosSo, he won't turn into a monster because he's more of an intellectual
18:48.33ImperiosIs my reasoning correct?
18:48.39OluapPlayerYeah
18:49.20ImperiosHm
18:49.24OluapPlayerThough he's not harmless. He's still Shu's host body after all
18:49.35ImperiosI had Br'klakkon going one-winged angel
18:49.58ImperiosBut that's it
18:50.03ImperiosThen again I am not an avid storywriter
18:50.26OluapPlayerIt was fitting for Br'klakkon though, because he already was an eldritch abomination from the start
18:50.32OluapPlayerErrr is just a mortal scientist
18:50.37ImperiosTru
18:53.55StressedJackal~test
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19:02.25WormyHello
19:03.27Jepardipeep
19:07.11ImperiosMonet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MU1MS3GYE7c&list=UUedqnsVXjFlao53mKg7mnkQ#t=626s
19:08.20OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/e/ee/The_Mad_Scientist.png family reunion
19:10.46MonetImperios: Something about Jack Black?
19:11.10ImperiosI wanted to show you the Sponge Bob Death Knight
19:11.23MonetI saw that bit.
19:11.42ImperiosThat's a part of the Mists of Pandaria mockery
19:12.05MonetCoz you can get Panderen DKs?
19:12.13ImperiosYou can't
19:12.16ImperiosLemme explain it to you
19:12.23ImperiosI wish that the Podcaster Orc made his videos in English hur
19:12.27ImperiosBasically
19:13.04MonetOh wait I think I get the Jack Black reference.
19:13.14ImperiosKung Fu Panda
19:13.19MonetCoz Kung Fu Panda yeah.
19:16.22Imperios"I can understand Blizzard. Imagine a 8 years old kid who is going to get two presents from his parents for having As at school: a cartoon and a video game. And we all know that cartoons and video games are sold in the same shops... so, the kid is coming to the shop: to the left, he sees his favourite cartoon: Kung Fu Panda... and to the right, the video game based off it!"
19:17.37Imperios"I can imagine that the next WoW addon could be called, say, "the Mysterious of the Deeps", in which a new race would be added... say... spongebobrens!"
19:19.09Imperios"cue the Sponge Bob DK pic"
19:19.29Imperios[[]]
19:19.29morgothBotPyImperios meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
19:19.55OluapPlayerdum Spore randomly crashed
19:27.57OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/e/ec/Fog_War_Prologue.png here comes SporeWik'is new football team
19:28.42WormyI wonder what the football hooligans arte like
19:28.53ImperiosFootball hooligans = Kikras
19:29.04OluapPlayerhur
19:29.19ImperiosWe should make SporeWiki sports
19:30.01WormyA popular sport in the DCP is surfing...  Stars
19:30.59WormyGrimbolsaurians like blood sports
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19:44.02TheBuilderHello
19:44.12MobileJackalHey!
19:46.06WormyHi.  I made that page on Hyperspace if you haven't seen it already
19:48.51TheBuilderYes I've already seen it, that helped me a lot to understand the concept of the hyperspace
19:49.38WormyWas it you or Angrybirds who came up with the idea of hyperspace fog?
19:49.47WormyBecause that could be added
19:50.46TheBuilderIt was Angrybirds
19:51.23AngrybirdsYes.
19:51.28TheBuilderBut I wanted to ask you about the hyperspace drive
19:52.59TheBuilderWormy:There are a kind of equation or table that can relate the drive in the "normal space" and hyperspace drive
19:53.53OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Prologue#The_Mad_Scientist Bang
19:54.07WormyI've not seen it, aside from comparing warp factors if you mean that.
19:54.21OluapPlayerOh wait I forgot the picture
19:54.52TheBuilderWormy: Ok, thanks
19:55.58OluapPlayerIf anyone is on that page, press F5
19:57.52TheBuilderSomeone know how works a Turbolaser Array?
19:59.05WormyWe do have a description for it on the community tech page
20:01.56Jepardipeep
20:02.40MonetI might write the finale of VOlkarus' big plan later tonight.
20:02.55MonetIt feels wierd since most of the story has revolved around Pyrak's treatment of Oreleva.
20:02.56OluapPlayerreed link nao
20:03.09ImperiosNice
20:03.19MonetOluapPlayer: Can't right now. Uni preparation stoof.
20:03.32OluapPlayerngh
20:05.27OluapPlayer~kick Hachi_
20:05.27infobotACTION kicks Hachi_
20:07.10Hachi_Nice, I like Errr already. Also, I love the descriptions you placed in the section
20:07.29Hachi_It definitely made it feel more lonely for Errr
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20:07.55AdmiralPandaHello all
20:09.45OluapPlayerYeah he was pretty lonely. All company he had was these: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/4/45/Errrbot3.png
20:10.01TheBuilderWormy: Are you sure that are a description? It only says 'There are various forms of plasma weapon, much like there are many types of bullet or combustible chemical, from multi-function "phasers" to precise "disruptors" (not to be confused with subatomic disruptors ) and explosive "turbolasers"'
20:10.02AdmiralPandaIt looks adorable
20:10.37OluapPlayerdum I mispelled the number of eyes they have
20:11.51Hachi_Hmm I need a clever and smart-sounding word for "realm"
20:12.08WormyTheBuilder:  I don't think we wanted to go into detail about making turbolasers, phasers etc. seperate weapons, since they are all particle weapons at the end of the day
20:12.13OluapPlayerBob
20:12.15OluapPlayerc
20:12.26MonetTurbolasers are basically lasers mixed with streams of volatile plasma/exotic matter, right?
20:12.34OluapPlayer~kick Technobliterator
20:12.35infobotACTION kicks Technobliterator
20:12.37TheBuilderWormy:ok
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20:13.12MonetHachi_: http://thesaurus.com/browse/realm does this help?
20:13.16WormyYou can go into more detail in your own fiction but as a community page things were kept simple
20:14.30TheBuilderYes, the situation is that I never understood how works a turbolaser
20:15.09WormyFor my fiction I simply put "turbolaser fires an explosive charge of positive or negative particles (the visible portion is actually a ionised wake of plasma behind the turbolaser itsef). Turbolasers concentrate on explosive damage to take out shields and hull, while the subatomic disruptors are more accurate and surgically take out systems."
20:16.21WormyI think the Star Wars desciption is basically a laser followed by a plasma shockwave
20:17.07AdmiralPandaIt's funny, I always thought the Halo gauss warthog's main gun fired a laser thing, but it turns out the blue blast was the superheated gases in the wake of the shot
20:17.16AdmiralPandaI wonder if there's some way of preventing that flash
20:17.56TheBuilderOk
20:18.41WormyThat either sounds like some kind of laser produced by the thermal energy of the gas which is also released or something like the SporeWiki turbolasers
20:19.47AdmiralPandaNo, it was a solid shot. The shot was just moving so fast that it heated up the gas it was pushing out of the way to the point that it glowed
20:19.55OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/5/5b/Skewer_Malcaeum.png im gun kill u up
20:20.23WormyI see
20:20.33MonetIt's a gauss gun so the shot was travelling at hypersonic speeds.
20:21.42AdmiralPanda^
20:23.57WormySo its something like a plasma shockwave then
20:24.58Monetit makes sense how it can shred Elite armour.
20:25.45TheBuilderhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Federation_of_Species/Technology#Starship_Scale
20:25.57TheBuilderWell, it is done
20:30.53AdmiralPandaIs there any way you can think of that the shot could be fired without creating the massive flash?
20:31.34WormyI can't
20:31.36Hachi_Have it travel through hyperspace halfway down the barrel
20:31.45WormyUnless it was fired in a vacuum
20:31.53Hachi_Then have it rematerialize near the victim's head
20:31.57MonetStreamlining for drag isn't going to help.
20:32.56WormyMaybe frictionless surfaces on the projectile could reduce the effect of gas being thermalised
20:33.29WormyLooks neat Builder
20:35.32TheBuilderThanks
20:39.00WormyReading about "kinetic friction", the culpreit is largely down to chemical bonding.  So an inert material might work (like neutronium)
20:39.05Wormyculprit
20:40.26WormyAh OA has the answer http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4d46e4a9dcc35
20:43.43AdmiralPandahm, so artificially created frictionless surfaces
20:43.56AdmiralPandaThat could work
20:44.05AdmiralPandagot to go to uni, will be back later
20:44.11AdmiralPandathanks for the ideas Wormy
20:46.48WormyNo problem
20:48.36TheBuilderhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Federation_of_Species/Technology#Others
20:48.38TheBuilderEnvironmental weapons: S-Drone
20:49.24TheBuilderI thought this after seeing the DARPA project to create liquid robots
20:55.46MonetI'm not sure if it's a good idea for DARPA to publicise its' research...but then again there was a documentary years ago that stated the tilting fixed-wing solution used in the Bell-X1 was a largely-british innovation.
20:57.43MonetAccording to this guy interviewed, British engineers worked out that to prevent the wing flaps from lockingup at supersonic speeds was to tilt the entire wing. The interviewee claimed the Americans were stumped and had asked for the UK's research for help with the X1 project.
20:58.18TheBuilderWell, DARPA actually is encouraging other companies to develop new generations of robots, and one of his ideas is the liquid robot.
20:58.52TheBuilderBut who knows what kind of other things are researching
20:59.49MonetTrue. Bladewold - a prototype neuro-AI unit in Metal Gear Rising - was originalyl a DARPA project. WHich got scrapped because it was learning to slowly and was not a soulless killing machine.
20:59.53MonetBladewolf*
21:00.43MonetI think during combat tests Bladewolf was aking why it had to kill. Why it had to fight given its vast intelligence.
21:01.18MonetIt claimed it lacked the snse of brutality common in humans.
21:01.23Monetsense*
21:02.57TheBuilderFinally I finish the USF's Military Technology page
21:03.08TheBuilderhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Federation_of_Species/Technology
21:03.30MonetTheBuilder I'd like to ask, why is the United Federation of Species aconymed to USF?
21:03.45TheBuilderIt has it hystory
21:03.51TheBuilder*its
21:04.10WormyIn Orions Arm, there is a morphing robot that can change in reponse to its environment.  If you try to shoot it with a weapon, it makes a hole around the point being hit
21:04.13MonetAt first glance it seems liek a misspell.
21:04.27TheBuilderhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Federation_of_Species#Trivia
21:04.37TheBuilderHere is the explication
21:05.20TheBuilderIn a first step was a misspell, becouse the Federation name was different
21:05.46TheBuilderI changed the name long time ago, but not the acronym
21:06.06TheBuilderNow I am away
21:06.27WormyFound it http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/47b8e72bd7c32
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21:09.01roboticking45hi
21:09.34MonetOluapWorker: Just read the chapter.
21:09.38MonetFUK
21:09.48MonetPLayer I mean.
21:11.43roboticking45monet, could i ask, how you made your Imperium's territory map, as i need to make a territory map for my republics systems
21:12.06OluapPlayerdat reaction hur
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21:12.10MonetYou mean with the circular grid pattern?
21:12.13Tek0516hi
21:12.24OluapPlayerAlso http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/5/5b/Skewer_Malcaeum.png expect this guy to show up during the story
21:12.46MonetI'd get chills if two demon Marinox pulled themselves out of the ground and bowed to me.
21:13.12roboticking45well, no
21:13.21OluapPlayerThe two most powerful demon Marinox, even
21:13.41OluapPlayernow brb
21:14.06OluapPlayerand back already
21:14.18Tek0516lol
21:14.19roboticking45<PROTECTED>
21:17.05roboticking45i just need to know how to make one easily using my computer
21:17.59MonetThe background required heavy use of effects.
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21:18.16Sporeraptorhi
21:18.26TheBuilderBack
21:18.39TheBuilderHi all
21:18.44roboticking45hi
21:19.06TheBuilderAnd now bye
21:19.11roboticking45um bye?
21:20.36SporeraptorAeo: Do you control Zein or does TheBuilder
21:21.12Aeobuilder
21:21.20SporeraptorI c
21:22.05roboticking45gtg bye
21:28.21Tek0516Lol. Drop a crop circle inside a colony in Spore -> whole colony goes crazy
21:28.51Sporeraptorcould you please peep me i TheBuilder comes on again ?
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21:48.42Hachi_Hai
21:49.49OluapPlayerhai again
21:49.55Sporeraptorwb
21:50.48Hachi_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:CogNorg Best fiction
21:51.30OluapPlayer"if there werent sils"
21:51.32OluapPlayerhachi is a sil
21:52.31Monet"Native sentient being(s)Sil."
21:52.34MonetHuh...
21:53.02OluapPlayerOh ther eactually is a Creature:Sil page
21:53.07OluapPlayerhachi is still a sil hur
21:53.25Monet"Government: Freedom" Muricaplanet
21:53.32OluapPlayerolol
21:53.43OluapPlayerbtw I had some ideas for New Dawn but I don't know if I should wait for Imp to tell them
21:54.35MonetDraconizane need to do stoof.
21:54.55OluapPlayerdats ur job hur
21:54.59OluapPlayerfinish codin up wedding too
21:55.09Hachi_Right, I have been asked by the college art heads to draw for them if I wanna get in the course so they can see wat I can do
21:55.23Hachi_I dunno whether to be hapifaic or sadfaic
21:55.33MonetAt this rate Vetarion's going to be permenantly remembered as a smug self-centred git-- oh wait
21:55.54OluapPlayerKolossus is not amused by his behavior at the UDB
21:56.25MonetHachi_: I get waht you mean. On my course we called it a "summer project".
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21:57.05Hachi_So basically I need to draw a batch of work in the next week if I wanna get on this art course
21:57.21MonetSo I made this http://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/Yin-and-Yang-Rabbits-298514648
21:57.32MonetHachi_: Next week? Ouch.
21:57.47Hachi_No, two weeks time
21:57.55Hachi_The wednesday after this one
21:57.59OluapPlayerYin and Yang Hachis
21:58.05Hachi_Hachiception
21:58.45Monet"I put my wiener in my weiner in my weiner"
21:59.03Hachi_OHGOD
21:59.06OluapPlayerdats sum ghey
21:59.51Hachi_It's just an infinite amount of wiener
22:00.14OluapPlayerKol - dats my dimension
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22:04.57AdmiralPandaI return
22:05.43Sporeraptorwb
22:19.48Aeohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Not_Your_World_Anymore
22:21.39OluapPlayerdum Monet I wanted to talk to him
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22:38.04Catfacesteps on OluapPlayer's foot.
22:38.25CatfaceSorry I haven't been on.
22:38.28CatfaceI've been busy.
22:43.45CatfaceSp/
22:43.47CatfaceSo
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22:46.01CatfaceMonet: http://i.imgur.com/Kl8Gvvm.jpg
22:46.37Sporeraptorhi
22:48.36AdmiralPandaHi Monet
22:49.33Monethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtUpWihJJJ4 starring Hachi as Shinji (teenager 1), Arsac as Misato (woman wearing black), Koluap as Commander Ikari (glasses guy), Baparion as Ryzuko (blonde lady) Sarec as Foyozuki (old guy) and Da Rogue Boyz as the Military.
22:50.09MonetAnd Marigrax as the Angel.
22:50.28Sporeraptorbye
22:51.28CatfaceMonet: Help me.
22:51.44MonetThanks mate both of us are going to die.
22:51.53MonetThat's a Black Dog.
22:52.57CatfaceA black dog with red eyes.
22:53.17MonetYeah. As in -A- Black Dog.
22:53.25Hachi_Monet: Wanna know something very disturbing? Angels are technically human
22:53.39MonetHachi_: I did my research.
22:55.58MonetIkari - Don't worry I have a master plan that can't possibly fail! | Foyozuki - You mean you're going yo use your whiny bitchy-ass son who's never had a backbone in his entire life to pilot a giant robot he's never seen or heard of before and with no prior combat experience to face the greatest threat mankind has ever faced?    [awkward silence] Ikari - Well when you put it liek that anything will sound stupid.
22:57.27CatfaceMonet Hachi_: Robert Baratheon used to be a badass before he became king of the Iron throne. http://imgur.com/a/ZkCzX?gallery
22:58.20MonetPretty impressive for a guy with an antler helmet.
22:58.44Hachi_"WHERE'S ALL THIS YOGURT COME FROM?!"
22:58.47Hachi_I laughed so hard
22:58.48AdmiralPandaAnd then he got fat and his throne got usurped by a bitchy bastard
22:59.33Catface^
22:59.56CatfaceHe didn't know how to rule a kingdom. He knew how to fight battles and win wars, but not rule a kingdom.
23:02.14MonetShinji - Why are you always shouting at me? | Ikari - Why? WHY? My wife is dead, the world is coming to an end and to top it all off I have a spinelessp ussy of a son with a bigger vagina than Justin Beiber's who can't even think for himself.    Shinji - Was that an insult?   Ikari - NO it was a compliment!      Shinji - Oh.....thank you. *look over at angry Misato* What?
23:05.06Hachi_What's really funny about the cross explosions is that Word of God actually says they are there to simply "look cool"
23:05.19Hachi_There is no meaning to the cross explosion
23:05.21Hachi_explosions*
23:05.29MonetAs I guessed.
23:06.03MonetWhen they were all pondering the meaning of the cross explosions I thought "nah, it just looks cool"
23:06.48CatfaceXho in game of thrones http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Jalabhar_Xho
23:06.59CatfaceOr a song of fire and ice, I guess.
23:10.52WormyI just watched Troll hunter
23:14.26Hachi_Worth watching?
23:15.20MonetHachi_: I got to the point in the Anime where we see Misato's apartment and meet ehr pet penguin.
23:16.14Hachi_I love that penguin#
23:17.04WormyOh it was a great film
23:17.59WormyThese students find a man who hunts trolls for a secret wildlife service (they think he is an illegal bear poacher), and filming trolls is exactly what they do
23:18.08MonetI saw it peek over a newspaper and I was smiling excalining "wtf" then Pen-Pen inadvertantly has his own fridge-home.
23:18.26Catfacehttp://i.imgur.com/rBylmMl.jpg
23:18.26WormyIts not like the usual modern horror movie where you hardly see the beast
23:18.51WormyAnd they find lots of types of trolls
23:19.36WormyTrailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLEo7H9tqSM
23:23.47WormyThe Trolls are funny to watch
23:23.59WormyJust like they are on Youtube or Wikia hur
23:29.18Wormy<PROTECTED>
23:29.39WormyI opened a tab, but now I don't know how to close it without looking...
23:32.09WormyIs it the Black Shuck?
23:32.27WormyMost black dogs are okay to look at
23:32.46WormyIf you see the Black Shuck, it must not be mentioned for a year and day
23:33.10MonetWell catface mentioned it by showing it to me and asking for help. Does that count?
23:33.26WormyIt may do, if its the Black Shuck
23:34.08MonetIt's black and it has red eyes. if I die in my sleep tonight i'm going to haunt your family Catface.
23:34.14WormyThe famous victim from the 1970's was a lighthouse operator.  He told his friend who died, and told his father who also died
23:34.40WormyIs it a photo?
23:35.07WormyI don't want to die yet, its just been my birthday
23:35.23MonetYeah it's a photo.
23:35.50WormyRight I'm closing this entire page
23:36.00WormyAh that did it
23:36.06CatfaceMonet: MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
23:36.30MonetCatface i'm gonna haunt your house for this.
23:37.08MonetYour house will be haunted by an angry ghost dragon.
23:37.15CatfaceMonet: Good, I could use some company. Should I get the soda and coffee cake?
23:37.24WormyNot all Black Dogs are evil
23:37.46Hachi_Silly superstitious people
23:37.49WormyMany are said to be protectors of the land.  If your heart is pure, your sentence will be judged
23:38.40MonetDunno about pure but i'm a good person at heart.
23:38.59WormyWell if you don't theaten the land you'll be alright
23:39.24WormySome B;ack Dogs come in terrifying forms
23:39.37Catfaceburns and scares the land.
23:39.37WormyLike the sound of chains and iron boots
23:39.55WormyOr are headless but have eyes in place where they should be
23:39.59AdmiralPandaspreads bunny rabbits and lantana
23:41.12CatfaceMonet: I have a gift for you.
23:41.46AdmiralPandabrb getting food
23:41.58MonetIf it's a Banshee I am so planning to eat you.
23:42.14CatfaceMonet: http://i.imgur.com/ONmjquv.jpg
23:44.20CatfaceWormy: http://i.imgur.com/e9PmJYr.jpg
23:44.22WormyJust avoid touching broken combs in a forest
23:44.36WormyI'm not painting a good picture of my santity am I?
23:44.52WormyThen ahain I think that reputation died long ago here
23:44.53CatfaceNah.
23:44.57CatfaceWe're all insane.
23:46.11WormyKelpies, they scare me
23:46.47MonetI'm to paranoid to open that link Catface gave me.
23:47.24CatfaceI'll take away your knighthood, Monet!
23:48.36MonetI'll risk it.
23:48.49MonetLosing my knighthood.
23:49.00AdmiralPandaThey're fine
23:49.04CatfaceWormy: Click it.  http://i.imgur.com/ONmjquv.jpg
23:49.09WormyThrows Catface into path of Jotnar
23:49.11AdmiralPandaone is a geometric metal form, the other is a payout of the History channel
23:49.27AdmiralPandaThe one he sent you was the metal Monet
23:49.52MonetRight.
23:49.56CatfaceIts a Bismuth crystal.
23:50.20WormyI'm not impressed with STO wiki http://sto.gamepedia.com/Elachi
23:50.54WormyI have some bismuth, but it could be an awful trick
23:51.16CatfaceIts not an awful trick.
23:51.30CatfaceMonet: Click the link now or I'll end you!
23:51.38Moneti did
23:52.08CatfaceOh.
23:52.10CatfaceGood.
23:52.19Catfacegives Monet an ice cream
23:53.31AdmiralPandaplants lantana in Catface's garden
23:53.57Hachi_I think I may redesign the Zazane and Zoitharna to be taller with smaller heads
23:54.11Hachi_I think they look a little...stunted
23:54.14AdmiralPandathat might look better
23:54.27AdmiralPandamy only concern is how big their head is in proportion ot their body size
23:54.35CatfaceAdmiralPanda: Thank you for the pretty flowers.
23:54.48Catface:3
23:54.53AdmiralPandaCatface: Glad you like them, cus you'll never get rid of them. Ever.
23:55.06Hachi_My concern is that it's easy to do, but I'm shitty at outfitting
23:55.13Wormythey will grow on your faic
23:55.14CatfaceAdmiralPanda: What if I don't want to get rid of them?
23:55.14Hachi_So I shall require Imp's services once more hur
23:55.28AdmiralPandaCatface: Then you will be the bane of your neighbours forever XD
23:55.44CatfaceI already am.
23:56.11AdmiralPandaSeriously though, lantana can be burned, poisoned, starved, dug out, have natural predators set on it, and that devil-plant will keep growing
23:57.00CatfaceA worthy foe.
23:57.23Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Dawn/Year_5#Another_Wedding.2C_Not_another_Romance part 1 of an epic finale.
23:57.35OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Dawn/Year_5#Voices_In_Your_Head Volkarus is a creepy stalker
23:57.43OluapPlayerHoh, look at this conflict
23:59.40MonetUnfortunately Oluap, that chapter I linkedi nvolves more Pyrak being a prick.
23:59.59AdmiralPandaSo someone is playing Fallout New Vegas, the first thing he thinks of when Doc says "Mother" is "Fucker"

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