IRC log for #sporewiki on 20130512

00:00.07Hachi_Lagosi probably ride something more accustomed to their size hur
00:00.08XhoI think the Lagosi would get lost under the armor
00:00.24Zillafire101_Like in a christmas story?
00:00.44Zillafire101_With the kid and his coat?
00:00.47Hachi_hur
00:00.54Hachi_Lagosi are naturally very good at controlling Source and their skills in both melee and swordplay is pretty advanced
00:01.02Zillafire101_Lagosi - I can't put my arms down!
00:01.24XhoI wonder how heavy a Cataphractus is
00:01.57GD12not as heavy as ur mom hur
00:02.00XhoProbably between 2,000 - 2,500 lbs
00:02.25Xho910kg to 1130kg for u dum metrics
00:02.42Zillafire101_Nrgh Numbers!
00:02.43GD12hur
00:02.52GD12heaviest horse is 1524 kg
00:02.54XhoBasically getting hit by a Cataphractus at full speed = getting hit by a car
00:03.24Zillafire101_Ouch.
00:03.31XhoGetting in the way of one would almost definitely kill you
00:03.52Zillafire101_I've had worse
00:04.21XhoIn most strategic senses a Cataphractus is there to fuck up your day hur
00:04.48AdmiralPandaHel' - That's my mount!
00:05.06XhoJudging by their size they could easily plough through or over defensive lines
00:05.30Zillafire101_That's why you have Phalanxies
00:05.36TybusenI'd imagine more like getting hit by a train
00:05.43TybusenBecause at least some people survive getting hit by a car
00:06.00Zillafire101_Let em run into your spears.
00:06.03XhoAn entire line of Cataphractus would be the last thing you want in a ground battle against Shiarchon
00:06.30TybusenSpearman beats pseudo-tank
00:06.31GD12Spear Wall then hur
00:06.43OluapPlayerSea Witch - fuk ur cactus line
00:06.48XhoWell if your spear can get through that kind of armor
00:07.17GD12Hachi- i can get my spear through anything
00:07.19OluapPlayerAnd then she just turns them all into tuna
00:07.29OluapPlayer*Kol
00:07.38Hachi_ohgod
00:07.46Tybusenwhy GD why XD
00:07.57XhoBut still a ground battle against Shiarchon is often a good idea to avoid
00:08.15OluapPlayeri much prefer water fite
00:08.17OluapPlayerTangilaruka - dats wher u dai
00:08.45XhoIn one situation the Shiarchon were curious to find out what the Vrorekaa were. The Vrorekaa sent out 14 troops and the Shiarchon sent out 14,000
00:08.52TybusenRazoa - We'll be waiting over here while you find a way to build submarines
00:09.11XhoThe Shiarchon do have aquatic forces but Shiarchon don't like water
00:09.12Hachi_Voledari Clan have best navy
00:09.29XhoSanguabominamentum and Sanguapraegrandis mainly
00:09.33Hachi_Voledari do all the aquatic stuff for the Shiarchon hur
00:09.34OluapPlayerTangilaruka - cus im in it
00:09.45Zillafire101_So want happened to the Vrorekaa?
00:09.53TybusenRazoa just sit at the bottom of the ocean while everyone just dais up above
00:10.00XhoSupposedly the Shiarchon left them alone
00:10.15Xho14,000 vs 14
00:10.29OluapPlayerShiarchon were like "wow no ur ugly as shit we're out of here"
00:10.30Zillafire101_Shiarchon - We got 14,000!
00:10.44Zillafire101_Vrorekaa - We don't care.
00:11.21XhoAlthough the full might of the Shiarchon militia including allies is 7 million
00:11.31XhoThey are Koldenwelt's Persia hur
00:11.45TybusenRazoa - How many of those can breathe underwater? I thought so.
00:11.49Zillafire101_Militia?
00:12.07Zillafire101_Makes me think of just a bunch of levies hur.
00:12.44XhoTybusen: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/7/7d/Sanguabominamentum.png
00:13.34OluapPlayerTangilaruka - stay off ma territoreh
00:13.35XhoVast majority of that is land forces though
00:14.14TybusenRazoa - *stab it multiple times with obsidian spears*
00:14.31XhoActually you should go against the Sanguapraegrandis
00:15.11GD12i tg
00:15.13GD12gtg
00:15.20Zillafire101_Cya.
00:15.26OluapPlayerngh dumb internet decides to just stop loading certain websites
00:15.29Tybusengoddammit
00:15.34TybusenI was just about to talk to you GD
00:15.42TybusenFUUUUUUUUUU
00:15.46Angrybirdslol xD
00:15.53Zillafire101_Oluap:i know the feeling
00:15.53AngrybirdsSorry Ty. >.<
00:16.15XhoI forgot how big the Sanguapraegrandis is
00:16.23XhoThe page specifies it as Hyper Epic
00:16.54OluapPlayerYou said it was about as big as Tangi Sr.
00:17.00XhoAh right
00:17.02OluapPlayerwhich is probably bullcrap cause I dun like that
00:17.06XhoSo about 160km right
00:17.23OluapPlayerI never specificed Tangi Sr.'s size
00:17.40XhoWell no one knows for certain
00:17.48XhoIt's big enough to shift Abyssus' landscape
00:18.13Zillafire101_Relase the Sanguapraegandis!
00:18.35OluapPlayerFrom underbelly to the top of the backspikes it was probably around 2 kilometers tall
00:19.01TybusenRazoa - I gonna need a bigger spear
00:19.20XhoHm guess it wouldn't be that big
00:19.27XhoThe Sanguabominamentum are around 200m long
00:20.33Tybusenhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Captain_Lorrelas Revamped dis page. Nao go quote u dumbos
00:20.34OluapPlayerSo while he was alive, Tangi Sr. looked like a moving island
00:21.04XhoCaligaduro - I CAN SEE YOU FROM HEER
00:21.12OluapPlayerI'm change his old personality from animal-like to more rational
00:21.22OluapPlayerSo maybe he was buddies with Soldawhatshername
00:21.38XhoSoldalatel - gud but ur son is dum
00:22.53OluapPlayerTangi Sr - wait i hav a son?
00:23.16XhoSoldalatel - yeh
00:23.19Zillafire101_I need to catch up on my fantasy stoof.
00:23.31Hachi_I wonder
00:23.36Hachi_Inato vs Tyraz
00:23.40Zillafire101_I just realizied recently that sprak is Karps spelled backwards
00:23.46OluapPlayerTyraz loses cause he's Tyraz hur
00:23.47XhoGEEZUSH
00:24.01XhoMy mind just lapsed for a second there
00:24.06Hachi_hur
00:24.14Zillafire101_I do that all the time.
00:24.15OluapPlayerwat
00:24.20XhoSprak = Karps
00:24.22XhoMy mind
00:24.25Xhoy u do dis
00:24.28OluapPlayerwow
00:24.30OluapPlayerbro u dum
00:24.37Xhonoh
00:24.39Hachi_lel
00:25.06OluapPlayerYeah Karps named the island after himself somewhat
00:25.34Zillafire101_What a humble fellow.
00:25.38OluapPlayerYou think Kinmowhatshisface ever went to Sprak?
00:25.53XhoI imagine so
00:26.03XhoKinmo has probably been everywhere except the Forgotten Lands
00:26.06OluapPlayerKinmo - EVERYONE IN HERE IS A DIK
00:26.15XhoOr he might have already been but not tell anyone
00:26.44Hachi_"KINMO WAZ HERE"
00:26.46XhoKinmo was probably there before Caligaduro destroyed the place
00:27.18OluapPlayerConsidering the whole "alive while Caligaduro was imprisoned" then it's possible that Karps sees Kinmo as an ally
00:27.27XhoKinmo - u betta
00:27.29OluapPlayerso he'd be one of the few people who he's not a douche with
00:28.26OluapPlayerThough I'm not sure what Kinmo would think of how Karps technically enslaved an entire island under his rule
00:28.36XhoI'm wondering whether the sight of Caligaduro would drive people mad or not
00:28.53XhoKinmo's above mortal interaction so he wouldn't care
00:28.56OluapPlayerVargash - wuld u stahp steelin ma thundur
00:29.03R17Tybusen: I quoth;d
00:29.05R17quoth'd*
00:29.30XhoCaligaduro is the tallest thing on Koldenwelt so it would be pretty insane to see something that big
00:29.30OluapPlayerKarps - lel chek dese fish doods they serve me c           Kinmo - i c
00:29.49Zillafire101_How big?
00:29.55XhoCaligaduro is 7.7km tall
00:30.17Zillafire101_Dang.
00:30.18XhoKind of the reason the Colossi are called that
00:30.35XhoExcept most Colossi range between 100m - 200m
00:30.55Zillafire101_7.7, almost as big as my ego.
00:31.04OluapPlayerCan't really give a height to a snake
00:31.16OluapPlayerBut Almonohuin is 780m long
00:31.56Hachi_I am probably going to start referring to Inato as an "it" from now on since Inato is genderless but every other time I'll call it "he" hur
00:32.14Hachi_You can't really put a gender on a force of nature
00:32.16XhoI should do a Colossus height chart
00:32.26OluapPlayerWe pretty much always refer to genderless chars as "he"
00:32.54Xhohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW2sWSgofbg I reiterate this song as Caligaduro's theme
00:33.30OluapPlayerTangi Sr shuld b largest non-Caligaduro colossus
00:33.39OluapPlayerhe has colossal on his name even
00:33.40OluapPlayerdam dis
00:33.48XhoI dunno how large Tangi Sr is though
00:34.26OluapPlayerAnd it was me who came up with all this colossus business so I should have at least this privilege hur
00:34.35Xhofien
00:36.51OluapPlayerhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/SHARKTOPUS_DVD.JPG ders a moovi bout him
00:37.13Hachi_I wanna c dis movee
00:37.28Xhogeezush wot
00:37.32AdmiralPandaHachi: Is like hentai and food film all in one
00:37.39AdmiralPandaHachi - *
00:37.39Hachi_YEY
00:37.49AdmiralPandaas in that's what Hachi would say
00:38.29Hachi_Oh hur
00:38.45Zillafire101_Sounds my weekends
00:47.01XhoOluapPlayer: How big is Vargash?
00:47.41OluapPlayerXho: Right now? I think around 220m tall
00:47.43Zillafire101_[[http://images.wiki.com/spore/Behemoth-ClassPic.png]] How does this look?
00:48.03Zillafire101_Darn it, didn't work.
00:48.10XhoMy god apart from Ambhíqolosemos all the Colossi are gonna be a few pixels hur
00:49.12Zillafire101_Can someone tell me how to post links to an image on sporewiki.
00:49.50OluapPlayerDon't include Caligaduro then hur
00:49.53OluapPlayerOr do two pictures
00:49.57OluapPlayerOne with and one without
00:50.40XhoVery well
00:50.46XhoI'm doing one with right now hur
00:51.25R17Radux are the only "its"
00:52.01Hachi_Xho: Kinmo and Inato are allies, right?
00:52.05Hachi_Or would they be neutral?
00:55.32Hachi_Imma just put him in allies
00:55.37Hachi_I'm sure we discussed dis befo
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00:56.45XhoHachi_: More likely neutral
00:57.26Hachi_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Inato#Relations Looking at what Inato considers neutral, I think allies would be more appropriate
00:57.40Xhofien
00:57.56Hachi_Also, gimme all ur quotez
00:58.18XhoAlready did
00:58.18Xhoshup
00:58.37Xhohttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/2/23/ColossicomparisonwCal.png This is just how big Caligaduro is
00:59.01Hachi_Geezush
00:59.43OluapPlayerteeny tiny vorgosh
01:00.05XhoEven though Vargash is still huge
01:00.40OluapPlayerI'll have to make some changes to Vargash's model, it's not supposed to have those legs anymore
01:00.50XhoCaliagduro - y
01:01.06XhoA human can't even be pixelated on that chart hur
01:01.24OluapPlayerVargash- cus im a mountain an mountains dun hav legs u dingus
01:01.40XhoCaligaduro - dude have u seen me
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01:02.22OluapPlayerVargash - ur a huge bat dood not a mountain tho
01:02.28XhoCaligaduro - i still haz two legs
01:02.41XhoWormy: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/2/23/ColossicomparisonwCal.png
01:02.55Zillafire101_http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/Behemoth-classPic.png How does this look guys.
01:03.33Hachi_404 Forbidden
01:03.39Zillafire101_What?
01:03.44Zillafire101_Ah crap.
01:03.45XhoI just realised Caligaduro's head alone is almost 3000ft long
01:03.58Zillafire101_screw it. I give up.
01:04.30R17Zillafire: use imgur
01:05.05Zillafire101_Whats that?
01:05.09XhoHoly crap, Ambhíqolosemos is larger than Ben Nevis
01:05.16AdmiralPandaOh btw guys, I forgot to mention: I figured out that the cell stage's part collection mechanism actually has a real-world science equivalent
01:05.39R17IA IA
01:05.44R17CALIGADURO FHTAGHN
01:05.50OluapPlayerBen Nevis
01:05.51OluapPlayerwat dat
01:06.24Hachi_Britain's biggest mountain
01:07.11AdmiralPandaIf you replace the golden shield thingies with DNA plasmids, you have mutation of cellular DNA by transformation
01:07.12AdmiralPandafun fact
01:08.05XhoAmbhíqolosemos's head is at a similar size to Mount Vesuvius
01:08.27XhoI just realised the numbers don't add up properly but the actual scale is still correct
01:08.32XhoMeh
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01:09.03Hachi_hur
01:09.28Zillafire101_R17: Whats an imgur?
01:11.47TybusenI'm still trying to grasp the sheer dysfunctionality of SporeWiki's calendar systems >.<
01:12.42Tybusenaaaaand there goes the person who would've been most helpful sorting it out
01:13.19TybusenFor one, the Truce and Cold War says it lasted for "many years"
01:13.31TybusenBut then the history page pretty much pegs it as lasting less than a year
01:13.42Tybusen*jackie chan face*
01:14.11R17Zillafire101_: imgur.com
01:14.58*** part/#sporewiki OfficerJackal (458b3b0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.139.59.13)
01:15.30TybusenI need to ask someone where all the dates actually belong so I can align the TIAF calendar
01:16.26Zillafire101_alright thanks.
01:31.27AeoneonatrixIdea: A species of truly alien beings to whom normal life is as terrifying as any eldritch abomination is to us.
01:31.49AeoneonatrixWormy AceOfSpore R17 Tybusen thoughts?
01:31.56AceOfSpore?
01:32.10Aeoneonatrixthoughts on my idea?
01:32.20Liquid_STOGo ahead.
01:32.22R17I'll steal it hur
01:32.22R17jk
01:32.55AceOfSporeIs this idea for a Fiction empire or for Roleplay?
01:33.08AeoneonatrixFiction Empire
01:33.17R17hur ninja'd me
01:34.29AceOfSporeoh
01:34.35AceOfSporeWell it's interesting.
01:34.58AceOfSporean empire with classifications completely and entirely different than the known ones.
01:35.15AeoneonatrixIndeed. I'll try to make it as alien as possible.
01:35.32AceOfSporeMake it sentient Gas Giant life hur
01:35.48AeoneonatrixOkay
01:35.53AeoneonatrixI'll do that
01:35.55R17Xenophobic Slylandro
01:36.04AceOfSporeThen it'll either has to be Ammonia-based life, or something else you created
01:36.10AceOfSporejust a heads-up
01:36.24AceOfSporeAlso,
01:36.30AceOfSporeCheck out my brand new adventure: http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-OpelSpeedster|500901429088%3Asast-500907993869
01:36.31R17compensating for black-and-white morality empires, are we?
01:36.35AceOfSporelol
01:36.39AeoneonatrixAn empire of Carl Sagans "Hunters" perhaps? Are they copyrighted?
01:36.46AceOfSporedunno
01:38.23AeoneonatrixPartially R17, though it's more about the plight these things go through basically living in a universe where all things are so horrifying as to drive them mad.
01:38.38R17meh
01:38.55AeoneonatrixEven the nice things bring them to madness.
01:39.14AeoneonatrixAnd reading our fiction has the same effect as the necronomicon
01:39.27AceOfSporegiving a gift to them will make them bitchslap u hur
01:39.47AeoneonatrixNo, they'll run screaming
01:39.56R17they'd probably see Radux as "normal" hur
01:39.58AceOfSporeloll
01:40.26AeoneonatrixThey may origonate in a small Solar-system-sized universe which basically fuses with ours.
01:40.50R17and then the Radux vivisect them for the lulz
01:41.42AeoneonatrixOh like their biology is that comprable
01:41.51AeoneonatrixWell maybe
01:42.27R17well
01:42.41R17the equivalent of a vivisection for them
01:42.44AeoneonatrixWormy do you have comment on my bubble universe idea?
01:43.25Wormyback
01:44.21WormyIt is quite hard to concieve of how two universes can fuse
01:44.33WormyThough a wormhole link might be possible
01:45.24AeoneonatrixWhat do you think of the broader idea of the Aliens for which all things are Cthulhu?
01:45.47AeoneonatrixThey look up at the sky and see its lights as abominations.
01:45.57WormyThat is indeed scary
01:46.05AceOfSporelol
01:46.15AeoneonatrixThey are literally traumatized by seeing a human or any carbon based life.
01:46.40WormyIt is possible they might be xenophobic yes
01:46.56AeoneonatrixWell it's not Ill-will as much as it is fear.
01:47.02Zillafire101_So what would they think of Non-Carbon life.
01:47.39AeoneonatrixBut yes, the only way to get near them would be to take their form and use their words. You MIGHT be able to make an arrangement then that will amount to avoiding eachother.
01:47.59AeoneonatrixThey find all of our life to be abominations
01:48.12AceOfSporeThen you shouldn't mention 'any carbon based life'
01:48.15Zillafire101_indeed
01:48.18AceOfSporeYou should say 'any kind of life'
01:48.22R17Aeoneonatrix: Remember that "phobic" or "phobia" is derived from "phobos" which means fear, so it may also mean to be afraid of something as much as it means to bear ill-will to them.
01:48.36AceOfSporeBecause then they don't fear, like, Sillicon-based life
01:48.38AeoneonatrixAny kind of life that is not them
01:49.07AeoneonatrixThey are probably not even based our quarks.
01:49.17R17These guys are like a Xenophobic version of the Slylandro from Star Control
01:49.22Aeoneonatrixthey will differ in fundamental structure
01:49.25R17Gas giant-dwellers.
01:50.08AceOfSporeWhat's the difference between a Pocket universe and a Paralel universe?
01:51.33R17pocket universe is a "contained" universe, parallel universe is a universe that progresses side-by-side with another universe.
01:51.42AceOfSporeoh.
01:51.47Zillafire101_You beat me too it Reebutt.
01:52.02R17Reebutt is old name
01:52.18R17I've grown beyond it to be a bit more serious faic
01:53.13Zillafire101_I've been out of it fro awhile.
01:53.20AeoneonatrixSo it's like this.
01:53.30Wormyphysically I don't think there is a difference
01:53.44AeoneonatrixWormy what of entities made of alien quarks?
01:54.01AeoneonatrixAs in Not up down strange or anything else we have
01:54.03WormyIn the Xeelee Sequence
01:54.20WormyThere were organisms made of quagma in the early universe
01:54.42Aeoneonatrixquagma?
01:54.52WormyAs for alien quarks, that would mean a different set of physical constants
01:55.10Wormyquark-gluon plasma, or glasma as we call it here
01:55.35R17Quagma sounds like a porkymon
01:55.46WormyThe quagmites lived on ultra-fast timescales but percieved time as we do
01:56.15WormyThey knew the universe was going to cool, so they created artifacts in the form of anomalies detectable today
01:56.52WormyThe problem with having quagmites, alien or not in this universe is that they would bind into baryons
01:57.37WormyFurthermore, a universe "merging" with ours having a different set of physical conditions would become a false vacuum and might decay
01:57.54WormyIf it has less energy density
01:58.14WormyIf it has more, then the SporeWikiverse is fucked
01:58.23AeoneonatrixIf same?
01:58.37Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum
01:58.52WormyThen nothing, but then you won't have alien quark symmetry
01:59.26WormyThe aliens might explode entering our universe
01:59.43AceOfSporelol
01:59.53AceOfSporecombustive aliens hur
02:00.16Zillafire101_Hey guys, I got a question.
02:00.22AceOfSporeShoot
02:00.23AeoneonatrixWormy: What's a plausible way to make him completely alien to all other life?
02:00.34AeoneonatrixLike, on the atomic or subatomic level?
02:00.35Zillafire101_How does "The Fist of Fire" sound for a ship name?
02:00.43AceOfSporeDepends
02:00.56AceOfSporeDoes the ship has a fire paintstyle?
02:01.14WormyYou could try to make aliens that live in extreme environments.  Though we already have Degenerate matter/nuclear chemistry life
02:01.16Zillafire101_I never thought of that.
02:01.28Zillafire101_Yes, it will
02:01.40AceOfSporethen it's a good name
02:01.49AeoneonatrixWhat do you mean extreme environments?
02:01.57Zillafire101_It's for my re-amped fiction.
02:02.41WormyLemme think...  The oceans of metallic hydrogen in gas giants, neutron stars etc.
02:02.51Wormythough they have been taken up
02:04.07AeoneonatrixOceans of metalic Hydrogen?
02:04.45WormyAeon:  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AFiction_Universe/Important_topics%2FExobiology#Forms_of_life  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Civilisation/Goal_2_-_First_Contact
02:04.51WormyMight be useful
02:07.22WormyI need to go now, bye
02:08.07Zillafire101_[[Fiction:The Zarbania Powers]]
02:08.19Zillafire101_Ahh, the bot ain't here.
02:08.55Zillafire101_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:the Zarbania Powers
02:09.19Zillafire101_Wha...
02:10.21R17add underscores
02:12.08Zillafire101_What are those?
02:12.46AceOfSporeUh...
02:13.00Zillafire101_Commas?
02:13.09AceOfSpore_S
02:13.16AceOfSporeUnderscore is the _ symbol
02:13.34AceOfSporedoes exploring a Save Game Candidate's star system during the Space Stage revoke it's status as a Save Game Candidate?
02:14.01Zillafire101_Oh, I always called it under line.
02:14.04AceOfSporelol
02:14.05Zillafire101_Silly me.
02:14.13AceOfSporeOr it only happens if you terraform/colonize it?
02:14.48Zillafire101_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Zarbania_Powers
02:14.55Zillafire101_Add quotes plz.
02:15.14Zillafire101_It's still a work in progress.
02:15.26AceOfSporeok
02:15.32AceOfSporeWhich galactic arm is it on/
02:16.03Zillafire101_The Powers? Well, you mean Milky Way?
02:16.23AceOfSporeIf it is located in the Milky Way, then yes. Which arm of the Milky Way it is on?
02:17.14Zillafire101_I never thought of that.
02:17.20Zillafire101_Let me take a gander
02:18.26Zillafire101_ah, scutum-crux arm
02:19.29AceOfSporeoh.
02:19.36R17I almost misread that as "scrutum"
02:19.53AceOfSporeProbably won't meet the Tadpole Empire unless one of them perform large intragalactical travels.
02:21.10Zillafire101_Scrutum-Cocks arm
02:21.23Zillafire101_Sorry, I had to do that.
02:22.40AceOfSporelol
02:26.36*** join/#sporewiki Liquid_Ink (79d0badc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.208.186.220)
02:28.24AceOfSporehi Liquid
02:31.05Zillafire101_Hello Liquid
02:31.38Liquid_InkHowdy
02:32.06R17#wat
02:36.00R17#wat
02:37.25AceOfSporetechnically, I'm outside the Galaxy in Spore right now
02:37.32AceOfSporeAs I'm in a star that is not in the galactic arms.
02:38.58Zillafire101_wow
02:39.11AceOfSpore?
02:41.18R17tset
02:42.57AceOfSporeWhy do most fiction pictures aliens as evil warmongers who want to destroy Earth?
02:43.05AceOfSporesci-fi fiction, I mean.
02:44.11R17because humans are xenophobes
02:44.19R17hur
02:44.21AceOfSporelol
02:45.14Aeoneonatrixabsorbs AceOfSpore 's soul with the intent of using it for power.
02:45.18Liquid_InkNot all science fiction depicts aliens as evil
02:45.44AceOfSporeAeoneonatrix: nope,ai
02:45.54AceOfSporeAeoneonatrix: nope.avi*
02:46.31AceOfSpore's soul flies back into AceOfSpore
02:50.00Aeoneonatrixis obligated to submit to enslavement to anyone who escapes him and so is now AceOfSpore 's slave-shrew
02:50.31AceOfSporeWoohoo, I have a slave
02:51.04AceOfSporeorders Aeoneonatrix to bring him grape soda
02:51.29Aeoneonatrixdoes this
02:52.22AceOfSporedrinks the grape soda *
03:04.43AceOfSpaceI'll be going
03:04.44AceOfSpacecya
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04:18.16AdmiralPandahello
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05:44.05Aeoneonatrixhttp://www.youtube.com/user/holocaustwasright76 This guy...
05:44.17AeoneonatrixTHIS GUY
05:44.20AeoneonatrixWTF
05:45.28Aeoneonatrix"Ever heard of the ancient Greeks and Romans? What about the Germanic culture that stretched from Scandinavia all the way down to the Caspian Sea? What about British culture that dominated the majority of the world for centuries and still does to this day? What about Paris, France? Notre Dame, the Eiffel tower, the Arc De Tripumph? That's white culture, what about your spear chucking ancestors? What did they do bes
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07:00.35Aeoneonatrixhi
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07:05.25JepardiHi
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09:09.34Liquid_InkHello
09:09.41XhoNom
09:10.04R17es
09:11.36Liquid_InkHow are you?
09:12.03XhoOkay
09:12.44Xhohttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/2/23/ColossicomparisonwCal.png I'm posting this again hur
09:14.33Liquid_InkKinky
09:15.43AeoneonatrixI'm currenly writing Alikos' guide to immortal hyperlogic.
09:15.51AeoneonatrixIt's his attempt to explain "incomprehensible minds" to mortals.
09:17.45AeoneonatrixI'll admit he's perhaps too successful, but in a way getting as close as he can may make the remaining distance more meaningful.
09:18.20Jepardipeep
09:27.41R17o rly
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09:30.58AeoneonatrixThink of it like this
09:31.19AeoneonatrixBefore, we knew nothing, and therefore had no idea how little we knew
09:31.33AeoneonatrixNow, we know enough to know how little we understan
09:31.37Aeoneonatrix*understand
09:31.52AdmiralPandaCongrats, you just picked up the most basic shell of science
09:32.13AeoneonatrixI've known about the CK effect for a long time
09:32.16Aeoneonatrix*DK
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09:35.44Liquid_InkHello!
09:36.01AdmiralPandahey dino
09:36.12dino_hello!
09:36.14dino_How are you all dong
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09:38.13AdmiralPandahey
09:38.15dino_Monet!
09:39.23MonetHi!
09:40.26Liquid_Inkdino: I'm doing fine.
09:40.50Monet"Most states own an army. The Prussian Army owns a state"
09:41.06Liquid_InkI'm afraid I won't be able to update Distorted Reflection, so I'll make two new chapters next weekend.
09:41.29MonetCan't remember who said that quote but I think it's badass. I found it on Empire Total War.
09:42.09MonetCurrently I'm playing Prussia and i'm in a war with Poland and Austria - I'm winning.
09:42.42AdmiralPandaThat seems unsurprising
09:44.19MonetI find it funny how Austrian line infantry platoons have more men than mine but die a lot easier.
09:46.47MonetMaybe their bodies realise they're up against Prussian troops and fall over?
09:51.44AdmiralPandalul
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09:52.05Sporeraptorhi
09:52.10AdmiralPandaAustria - Um, how about we just lay down and die, eh?
09:52.11Sporeraptor~seen ecoraptor
09:52.12infobotecoraptor <51523776@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.81.82.55.118> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 11d 1h 25m 1s ago, saying: 'Hi'.
09:52.57MonetAlso Spriggs you missed this genius plan by Saxony in one battle.
09:53.05AdmiralPanda?
09:55.39MonetI haz picture
09:57.02Monethttp://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/866093583039267142/F5C1434A9979009A9F359BA031625D273135BE88/ the minimap points out the hilarity.
09:57.35Liquid_InkWhat game dis?
09:57.45MonetEmpire Total War.
09:57.59AdmiralPandai dun get it
09:58.30MonetThat zoomed-in squad was the only squad that approached my entire line for the first 10 minutes of the battle.
09:58.41AdmiralPandatotally foolproof
09:58.44MonetThey made four attempts to charge me.
09:59.15MonetThe resulting cannon-fire demolished two buildings in the nearby town.
09:59.36Liquid_InkDis game on Steam?
09:59.46AdmiralPandalol
09:59.54MonetLiquid_Ink: Yes
10:00.08AdmiralPandabtw, anyone else hear about the Metro: Last Light fuckup?
10:00.14Liquid_InkYou on Steam?
10:00.14MonetNo
10:00.21MonetLiquid_Ink: Yes
10:00.53AdmiralPandaMonet: Ranger Mode, the uber-hard, ultra-realistic mode everyone loved in Metro 2033? It's $5 DLC
10:01.06Monet...Seriously?
10:01.09AdmiralPandayeah
10:01.10Liquid_InkOh of course, Strategist Spacer, no?
10:01.20AdmiralPandaYou want to know the really fucked up part?
10:01.21MonetLiquid_Ink: That's me.
10:02.02AdmiralPandaGamestop called them on it, they blamed the retailers. In blaming the retailers, they said that they chose the $5 dlc package over a time-delay release for pre-orders
10:02.16Monethttp://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/866093583039339684/97C87C023AE64BEF7AC9DD84A98070516A3E959F/ Austrian strategy at its finest.
10:02.25AdmiralPandain other words, they're asking you for $5 more instead of just asking you to wait a couple of months
10:02.55AdmiralPandaAnd they believe that a $5 charge is a better deal for gamers
10:04.34Liquid_InkAustrians, master strategists.
10:04.50MonetAt least they died for their country.
10:05.00Aeoneonatrixhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Lightbringer/Guide_to_Incomprehensible_Minds The first of many posts on Alikos' "blog"
10:05.40MonetEve nif it was more of an extreme-level firing squad.
10:05.40AeoneonatrixNow of course even if you accept this as canon, these are merely his beliefs, especially that speech at the end.
10:05.40Liquid_InkIt explains why Hitler was so dumb
10:06.25MonetI feel bad that the Austrian troops all wear white.
10:06.42MonetPrussian blue is 100x more awesome.
10:06.49Liquid_InkExactly.
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10:07.21AdmiralPandahai techno
10:07.22AeoneonatrixTechno watu think of http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Lightbringer/Guide_to_Incomprehensible_Minds ?
10:08.18AdmiralPandaMonet Liquid_Ink: If I ever rule a country, my state uniform is going to be red jackets and brown pants
10:08.51Liquid_InkMonet AdmiralPanda: If I ever rule a coutnry, my state uniform is going to be this: http://wallpoper.com/images/00/41/81/23/serenity-firefly_00418123.jpg
10:08.53MonetNo pressure on the men.
10:09.10AdmiralPandalul
10:09.18MonetFirefly FTW.
10:11.14Liquid_InkBecause space cowboys
10:11.30MonetI can explain Alikos' argument with but a simple sentence :P
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10:14.05Aeoneonatrixwat?
10:14.47Monet"Ever wondered why your dog acts completely puzzled when you try to explain the intricacies of the New York Stock Exchange? That's because his brain lacks the reasoning, processing power and understanding required to comprehend its intricacies."
10:15.48AeoneonatrixI'd add "But that doesn't mean you can hold it in a basement, starve it, and torture it with a blow-torch."
10:16.57AdmiralPandathat is completely irrelevant to the discussion -.-
10:17.07Sporeraptorhi
10:17.24MonetThanks to a paper on xenopsychology, one example of a higher mind being incomprehenseable is how it has achieved a sense of "communality"; it would see acts like embezzlement, jealousy, brivery and mugging in the same magnitude as self-harm.
10:18.36AeoneonatrixActually human societies have been rather collectvist
10:18.38AdmiralPandaFordanta - According to dat logic, we are higher beings
10:18.54MonetA galactically-aware intelligence might also see wars in tthe same way.
10:19.00Aeoneonatrixthough not that much
10:19.45MonetThe problem is with modern human societies is that we hear about embezzlement and bribery, but initially wouldn't care as much if it wasn't happening directly to us.
10:20.38MonetIn a way, comunally-aware species might be less selfish than we humans because they are as aware of the intricacies of the community as we are the thoughts in our own heads.
10:21.48AeoneonatrixI agree Monet
10:22.35MonetSOmehow I think this is easier to understand than Alikos' entire argument. No offence.
10:23.06AeoneonatrixNone taken, though he's not trying to explain omniscience
10:23.32Aeoneonatrixor anything like that
10:25.38MonetSo...is there a dumbed down versio of what he's trying to put across?
10:28.01AeoneonatrixHe is putting accross a dumbed down version
10:28.40MonetMy brain still hurts from it :P
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10:29.07GD12Hello
10:29.18MonetHi
10:29.35AdmiralPandaTo be honest, that Alikos.... thing... was just a jumble of incoherent stuff to me
10:29.51AdmiralPandaI have to use buffy langauge cus my brain is too sore from having a half-day headache
10:30.02GD12Whats happened now?
10:30.18Aeoneonatrixhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Lightbringer/Guide_to_Incomprehensible_Minds The first of many posts on Alikos' "blog"
10:31.38MonetAnd again he seems to think descension = insanity.
10:31.47Aeoneonatrixno
10:31.54Aeoneonatrixhe never says that
10:33.27Monet". Firstly, understand that many immortals, especially the descended are simply jabberingly insane. They are as swayable by hyper-logic as insane mortals are by logic, and their actions are as founded in it. "
10:33.50Liquid_InkWoof?
10:33.56AdmiralPandathat sounds like saying descension leads to insanity to me
10:34.43AdmiralPandahttp://cheezburger.com/7442588928 I came a little
10:35.02GD12I'm sure insane people have their own axiomatic systems of logic hur
10:35.45MonetThor = no change lol
10:35.55GD12hur
10:36.36GD12Aeoneonatrix : So what exactly is the point to Guide to Incomprehensible Minds?
10:36.49Aeoneonatrixread the end
10:37.15Aeoneonatrixthat and spreading truth for the sake of spreading it
10:37.57GD12If the case is convincing people of something, the easy way of doing it would be programming them with the inability to learn and giving them preset data
10:37.59MonetAgain with objective morality...
10:38.33GD12blargh
10:39.45GD12On a funny note, there are systmes of logic where A AND B is not the same as B AND A
10:40.24AdmiralPandaSequential A and B isn't the same as B and A
10:43.38AdmiralPandaBtw Monet did you hear my explanation of the Arrow to the Knee joke?
10:43.48MonetAdmiralPanda: Yes.
10:44.05AdmiralPandaoh yeah you were there
10:44.22AdmiralPandahmm, I kind of feel like writing fic but I have no idea what to write
10:44.55MonetWho is to say waht moral points are objectively right or wrong? What are the criteria?
10:45.11MonetWhat makes a moral point objectively right?
10:45.50GD12Things are only objective in axiomatic systems
10:45.55GD12axioms can't be proven by definition
10:46.07GD12objective things are unprovable because of that
10:46.09GD12simple enough
10:46.49MonetBack in Ancient Rome the phallus was a symbol of fertility and it was an icon to be celebrated - it was even carved on the sides of buildings. THese days many do-gooders find the gloiification of the penis a dsigusting idea - who is right?
10:47.24AdmiralPandacan we please not debate moral ethics while Aeo is in the room? You're inviting disaster
10:49.16MonetHmm good point. Might be best not to kick that particular beehive which is a pain this being a site where people create non-human cultures all the time.
10:51.42AdmiralPandaunfortunately
10:55.37R17Alikos' guide thingy is bullshit
10:56.19Liquid_InkBe nice
10:57.10R17He needs to be punished for being too good and annoying
10:57.43Liquid_InkWe're not all evil eldritch abominations like you, R17.
10:57.55R17lol
10:58.20MonetGranted I am getting bored of his Obvia'Atra level of holier-than-thousness
10:58.51AeoneonatrixI plam to tone it down some in the future
10:59.33R17Radux - Immortal? I will vivisect this creature just to see what makes that so... perhaps it is just a claim hehehehehhe...
11:03.44R17Okay
11:03.50R17just read that article by Alokorn
11:03.53R17fucking
11:03.56R17bullshit
11:04.25Liquid_InkAlokorn?
11:04.53R17Alikos
11:05.45Liquid_InkAlikos?
11:06.01Liquid_InkOh yes of course.
11:06.02R17nevermind
11:07.14SporeraptorAlikos ?
11:07.43R17gah
11:08.31SporeraptorNo, who is that or acn you give me a link ?
11:08.48Liquid_Inkhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Lightbringer/Guide_to_Incomprehensible_Minds
11:08.48R17seriously?
11:08.54Liquid_InkYes, seriously.
11:09.16R17after all the arguments and bullshit Aeo makes almost regularly?
11:09.25Liquid_InkPlay nice.
11:11.20Liquid_InkWelcome back.
11:11.36Sporeraptorwb
11:11.45Liquid_InkTell R17 to play nice.
11:14.50AdmiralPandaAeoneonatrix: If you think the DI's policy is bad, if you break the Ko'Sa'Va Concordat and actively avoid reconciliation, your race can kiss its collective arse good-bye
11:15.15AdmiralPandaFordanta don't do slavery. They do genocide.
11:16.01Liquid_InkZarni do slavery. They don't like getting their hands dirty.
11:16.11AdmiralPandahttp://cheezburger.com/7402063872 Hachi looks so content
11:16.18Liquid_InkEr, claws
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11:17.01AdmiralPandaFordanta - But genocide is so much better! You don't have to clean up after yourself, and there's no upkeep cost
11:18.19Liquid_InkZarni - We'd rather somebody else clean our toilets
11:18.54Liquid_InkZarni - And when we're bored of them, they make a tastey treat.
11:22.13AeoneonatrixDraconis Toilets
11:22.28AeoneonatrixMonet do you understand now?
11:22.38R17Understand bullshit?
11:23.14MonetSelf-cleaningtoilets.
11:23.21Aeoneonatrixoh
11:23.32R17Alikos is a toilet
11:23.57Liquid_InkZarni - The money we could have spent on self-cleaning was spend on putting a really big warp drive in our planet's core.
11:24.46Monetbe honest. If you were a DI slave would you consider rebelling if you had a comfy bed, round-the-clock free mdedical care, a solid job, good company and highly nutitious (and possibly rather tasty) food?
11:27.04Monettest
11:27.11AdmiralPandayou passed
11:28.44Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Forgotten_Lands dere first part coded
11:29.05AeoneonatrixAdd "a venue for voicing legitimate complaints about my treatment" and no.
11:29.21AeoneonatrixSuch as the nightmares thing
11:29.42MonetYou can always talk to your coworkers if you're having problems :P
11:30.22AeoneonatrixNo, like complain to the higher ups and if its as bad as that they will listen
11:32.05MonetThere's always taking it like a man.
11:32.13AeoneonatrixAlso good: meaningful social mobility
11:33.10AeoneonatrixDude, nightmares
11:33.29AeoneonatrixThat is indicative of deeper problems
11:33.47MonetIf I recall the story you refer to that's a bit like working in a child's daycare centre and saying to your boss "why can't you assign me to somewhere with less nasty kids".
11:34.37AeoneonatrixOr maybe "May I have treatment for the lingering traumatic stress I have from you enslaving me?"
11:35.07AeoneonatrixOr "Could you give him a fucking toy to ride?"
11:35.25MonetI think access to a therapist is covered in "round the clock medcal care".
11:35.39AeoneonatrixSo he should be getting treatment?
11:35.56Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Forgotten_Lands Okay, coded and links added
11:36.05MonetSo long as he tells someone about it.
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11:36.47Wormyhi
11:36.50AeoneonatrixAlright assuming the story just stops short of that would this result in a re-assignement if it was found that his current assignment was damagind his mental health?
11:37.00R17wat
11:37.05Sporeraptorhi
11:37.35MonetI presume so, he'd be assigned somewhere kids are less likely to go like the kitchen.
11:37.46AeoneonatrixOkay then
11:37.53AeoneonatrixThough I will give you one tip
11:38.36AeoneonatrixIf you want to make it more sympathetic, show evidence that the slaves are thought of as people, like a Draconis conversing with one in a way that they might with a friend.
11:38.57AdmiralPandalul you clearly don't get the Draconis
11:39.03MonetWell...there may have bee nindications that Alessa liked the slave in the story.
11:39.14AeoneonatrixThat's important s that we understand that they are not just talking tools with extensive rights, but actually people.
11:39.15R17Panda is right
11:39.26R17and you are dum
11:39.29MonetOut of the kids and Alensia. Alessa has been the least mean to him.
11:40.08AdmiralPandais the wiki page loading really slowly for anyone else?
11:40.30MonetAnd Alensia lost her shit because that dress of hers is potentially worth more than a house.
11:40.58AeoneonatrixI'm talking about something more like. "Hey look, I need advice for a thing that you might be able to help me with, and desire to converse with you because I think of you as a person." Just a tip. The friendship is generally the marker between good and bad slavery.
11:41.14R17Wat
11:41.23AdmiralPandalulnope
11:41.48R17how many times do we have to tell you to stop applying absolutes and human morals to aliens?
11:41.51AdmiralPandathe difference between benevolent and dickish slavery tends to be whether or not the slaves have a decent standard of living. Monet is the authority in this case, but just saying
11:42.15R17and the slaves do have a decent standard of living
11:42.28MonetSo your current complaint is that you hope the slaves have a good boss?
11:42.45AeoneonatrixAP I'm talking about being SYMPATHETIC, as in MAKING CHARACTERS LIKABLE.
11:43.04R17lolcaps
11:43.04AdmiralPandaCharacters can be likeable without having to be sympathetic to a person who has literally no worth in their society
11:43.09AeoneonatrixI'm saying that that would make the audience perceive the slavery as less dickish.
11:43.15R17wat
11:43.16AeoneonatrixNot that it would be such.
11:43.28R17wat
11:43.35R17wat
11:43.52AdmiralPandaWhat makes you say the slavery isn't intended to be dickish? It is a punishment after all
11:44.28AeoneonatrixMonet is this true?
11:44.40MonetRemember these slave species invoked the wrath of the Imperium.
11:44.49AdmiralPandaI'm not putting words into Monet's mouth, I'm raising a valid point
11:44.56R17and that we are always right
11:45.14MonetAll of them are in that situation because people in power decided to fuck with the star dragosn of Andromeda.
11:45.18AdmiralPanda17, just can it. You have no voice when Aeo is concerned because you're an obnoxious twat
11:45.49R17meh
11:46.10AeoneonatrixHow so?
11:46.30AeoneonatrixBecause only a moron would actually try to conquer them.
11:46.45AdmiralPandaYou'd be surprised
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11:46.56Hachi_Hai
11:47.14WormyConquering was an effective way to stop the annoying buggers
11:47.17Wormyhi
11:47.23R17Aeon: that's implying that everyone knows what the DI is and what it's capable of.
11:47.34AdmiralPandaIt's basically been settled that up until the last couple of months of the Cold War, the Fordanta were nearly ready to engage fully with the DI, not realising how extensive the DI actually was
11:47.35AeoneonatrixIt also raises the problem of "That happened hundreds or thousands of years ago."
11:47.48AdmiralPandaHai buni
11:47.52AdmiralPandahttp://cheezburger.com/7402063872 U look so peaceful
11:48.15Hachi_:3
11:48.24AdmiralPandaThere's not really a problem with that Aeo. In fact, it reinforces the message of the act
11:48.34MonetYou think that Draconis would play nice after a while because you fucked with them?
11:48.37Sporeraptorhi
11:48.48AeoneonatrixAfter everyone involved is dead?
11:49.09AdmiralPandaFor once you're right about something: From my talks with Monet, my understanding is that the DI only takes slaves to send a message. The longer that message is in place, the more effective the act
11:49.13AeoneonatrixOr after their culture has moved on and they are no longer any threat
11:49.52WormyBut first their destructive ideology must die
11:49.54AdmiralPandaIt's quite brilliant really, it's the DI waving its oversized sexual organ to the galaxy and saying "You screw with us, your species will regret it a thousand generations into the future. Think about that."
11:50.11Hachi_I like that
11:50.19Hachi_It really sets an impression
11:50.22AeoneonatrixBTW I'm assuming based on Monet's PM comments that he's defending the system is not unambiguously wrong.
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11:50.36AdmiralPandaThe Fordanta are more like "You screw with us, your species ceases to exist."
11:50.42piecesofshetYou are all pieces of shit
11:50.50WormyShetland pony!
11:50.53AdmiralPanda*sigh* looks like 17 needs a ban
11:50.56Hachi_hur
11:51.10AdmiralPandaDoes he really think we're so stupid as to not realise it's him doing this?
11:51.18MonetWell think about it this way, there is a chance that said conquered species was at one time more matching in power to the DI. Even if you do your history it does imply "these guys were closer in power to us and they are our servants now. Wanna try it?"
11:51.51AdmiralPandalul
11:51.56AdmiralPandabest response
11:51.59AdmiralPandago have lunch
11:52.07AeoneonatrixI personally find that that kind of bullying is a deal breaker for sympathy, and Uriel is supposed to be a good guy iirc and usually functions as such, and yet I find him a reprehensible person.
11:52.41AdmiralPandaHel'Bre'K is considered a saviour and/or merciful God across thousands of systems, yet he openly admits he enjoys the odd genocide. Go figure.
11:53.00AdmiralPandaTo be fair, he's considered a God of destruction and carnage across several thousand more systems, btu still
11:53.23AeoneonatrixThough that's partly because I consider none of the traits you'd like about him to be redeeming to any large extent.
11:53.48AdmiralPandaThat's because you are you, and you have the imagination of a shrew
11:53.51AdmiralPandathat rhymed
11:54.02Hachi_You know, I'm fucking tired of this.
11:54.07Hachi_Somebody steam me when this is over
11:54.09AdmiralPandaAgreed
11:54.13Monetis it really bullying when the only people who got pounded or hurt are the ones who tried poking the bear with a stick?
11:54.13AdmiralPandaskype work?
11:54.20AeoneonatrixAlso caring about his own species means nothing because there's been one story about DI internal affairs.
11:54.53AeoneonatrixNo, it's bullying when their descendants do.
11:55.05AdmiralPandadamn, Hachi isn't on skype
11:56.08Liquid_InkYou have Hachi on Skype?
11:57.14MonetSo far in that oen story the only pain he's suffered is from ruining the dress of the empress and having to deal with a bunch of bratty six-year-olds.
11:57.25AeoneonatrixAlikos - The fact that you're willing to make these people's lives so much worse as to render them mere tools with rights for only a miniscule increase in message shows that you are all bullies and not worthy of any respect.
11:58.18AdmiralPandaHel'Bre'K - The fact that you believe that proves you know nothing about psychology.
11:58.42AdmiralPandaHel' - My ancestors stopped wars by putting skulls on spikes. The Imperium are employing the same method.
11:58.50Liquid_InkZarni - Want moar vassals!
11:59.19AdmiralPandaVlad the Impaler also stopped a war by, well, impaling people. His enemies encountered their still-living bodies impaled on sharpened tree branches, and ran the fuck away
11:59.24MonetIn the herarchy of needs, freedom and social mobility is at the top. Which makes it less critical than say food or safety.
11:59.36AdmiralPandaApparently you could hear them moaning from the castle
11:59.53AdmiralPandavlad's castle*
12:00.07AdmiralPandaInk: I do have Hachi on skype, yes
12:00.29AeoneonatrixAlikos - Look, I am asking for what the DCP also couldn't give me, evidence that the punishment being perpetual actually increases the deterrent effect enough that it justifies the action.
12:00.32Liquid_InkWould you like me on Skype?
12:00.38AeoneonatrixI would
12:00.47AeoneonatrixMy Skype is ThePuppyTurtel
12:00.49AdmiralPandaHe was talking to me
12:00.54Aeoneonatrix*ThePuppyTurtle
12:00.54AdmiralPanda:/
12:01.39AdmiralPandaInk: Nah, only added Hachi cus we had that really bad patch with Irsk, so we used that to communicate while we were both fuming over Irsk's stupidity
12:01.50Liquid_InkThe puppy turtle?
12:02.00AeoneonatrixAll one word,
12:02.07AdmiralPandaCan someone steam Hachi to come on skype pls?
12:02.23AeoneonatrixAlright, one more thing before the subject changes, the most morally complex and suffisticated patron, who will be the patron of freedom. Monet I'd like to see the DI do battle with him.
12:02.39WormyIvan the Terrible boiled people alive and fried entire villages in giant frying pans
12:03.03Liquid_InkHow nice?
12:03.22AdmiralPandaWhen he got thrown in jail he carved his wooden cutlery into spikes and impaled rats on them
12:03.47Liquid_InkNow that's passion
12:04.00AeoneonatrixMonet ?
12:04.13MonetAeoneonatrix: Yeah...not gonna happen.
12:04.21AeoneonatrixWhy?
12:05.36AeoneonatrixMonet
12:06.01MonetBecause you're basically sending a patron who is against freedom against one of the more profilic practioners of slavery. Essentially disregarding everything about the DI's methodology that Spriggs mentioned. That and I don't want anything canon to do with the patrons.
12:06.10Monetagainst lack of freedom*
12:06.32AeoneonatrixWhat about that Aeon liberation story?
12:07.16MonetThat was kinda before I reaced the point I was absolutely sick of them.
12:07.46AeoneonatrixWhat if i work to make the nicer?
12:08.01AeoneonatrixI was really looking forward to that one
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12:08.26Hachi_Is it over yet?
12:08.26AeoneonatrixIt'd be a while from now, btw.
12:08.26WormyYeah if I'll be honest, I don't like the Patron roleplays.  It feels like in a mild way we are actually arguing our opinions.
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12:08.53WormyI don't mind the Refugee story though
12:09.12ventyourragebrocooling down
12:09.16ventyourragebropleast stand by
12:09.16ventyourragebroplease*
12:09.25AeoneonatrixI'll try to keep future rps with you to a limit
12:09.36AeoneonatrixOf that kind
12:10.03MonetI know you tried to make a race of immortals more likeable but the problem is I think you've made them too human.
12:10.19ventyourragebro^
12:10.22AeoneonatrixPlease Monet ? It'd be weird given who the new patron will be to have no interaction. It's a person who likely hated the DI.
12:10.38Aeoneonatrix*given who the new patron is
12:11.27AeoneonatrixMonet: How do I make them less human without making them into the same amorally monsters I am trying to avoid?
12:11.38AdmiralPandaI'm going to be honest, I find the Patrons to be a ball of dum too. They could have been done so much better
12:12.08WormyI think the problem is that the roleplay is basically an argument that doesn't get anywhere, and that is boring.
12:12.22Aeoneonatrixok
12:12.23MonetYou can't Aeon, that's the thing. One of the reasons immortals are so amoral is because many of them shrug off such mortal concepts.
12:13.03AeoneonatrixI could go for the fluffy thing in Modoka
12:13.12WormyI for one don't like pushy immortals, good or bad
12:13.14MonetThey are "above" morality, so to speak.
12:13.22AeoneonatrixMore emotionless utilitarian. Problem is, that thing is a villain
12:13.38AeoneonatrixWell except the Xol Etra
12:13.41AeoneonatrixAnd Taldat
12:13.44Aeoneonatrix*Taldar
12:14.07Hachi_This is why I made Tyraz value mortal traits
12:14.08MonetHow is utulitarianism a villain trait?
12:14.19AeoneonatrixAP how would you do it better?
12:14.37Hachi_Tyraz would rather be mortal because he knows that a majority of immortals are drunk on power
12:14.50AdmiralPandaBy remembering that they are immortal beings, of alien consciences, and so would embody their patron traits perfectly and with no bent towards mortal morality
12:15.02AeoneonatrixWith Modoka, because of where the heroes are on the "Suffering for a greater good" equasion
12:15.42AeoneonatrixIf they have no bent towards mortal morality they are not good guys.
12:15.44AdmiralPandaTo an immortal, the views of a mortal being are inherently flawed unless they align perfectly with the purity of the immortal's understanding of the concept
12:15.54AdmiralPandaAnd that's where you are wrong
12:16.08AdmiralPandabecause you try to assign "good" and "evil" like they exist everywhere
12:16.31AdmiralPandaand furthermore, you forget that good and evil is just one axis of morality
12:16.34MonetNo immortal aside from the patrons cares for godo and evil.
12:16.39Monetgood*
12:16.44Aeoneonatrixbullshit
12:16.53AeoneonatrixXol'Etra
12:17.00AeoneonatrixTaldar
12:17.12Hachi_Taldar and Xol don't interfere with mortal business
12:17.18WormyYes
12:17.18Hachi_They stay to themselves
12:17.20AdmiralPandaI seem to recall the Taldar being supreme dicks at least
12:17.27WormyAnd that too
12:17.28Hachi_And yeah, Taldar are pretty dickish
12:17.31Liquid_Inkrides off into the sunset.
12:17.34MonetYou label them as such. The Xol are more like Xhodocto who aren't so intent on annihilating everything.
12:17.43AeoneonatrixIf they truly chared none of our morals, they'd not even be adverse to suffering.
12:17.48WormyThey think of themselves as the rulers of time
12:17.51Aeoneonatrix*shared
12:18.12AeoneonatrixThey could only be amoral.
12:18.20AdmiralPandayou are such a black and white ball of fail it's getting annoying
12:18.35Hachi_This is getting stupid.
12:18.36AdmiralPandayou take your views to be inherently superior to anyone else's purely because they are your viewpoints
12:18.52AeoneonatrixWell what good guy trait is detachted from morality?
12:18.57AdmiralPandayou're an arrogant twat that refuses to understand that there are more than just your narrow perspective to see things through, and I am done talking to you
12:19.06Hachi_Tyraz is a Descended character with a Firesword that can damn souls and can enter another state of being which personfies apeshit insane. From that description, you'd assume he is *evil*.
12:19.25Hachi_And Tyraz has killed a lot of people despite his dislike for it
12:19.27AeoneonatrixDue to incomplete information
12:19.35AeoneonatrixAlso, great example
12:19.36MonetIn a New Dawn story, the Triam (A Xol) approached a family of a newborn psionic prodigy mainly because the child was brimming with such potential. It was quite indifferent to having a SOlonese soldier get mindfucked with energy by touching him.
12:19.49Hachi_Tyraz is just a mix and match
12:20.10Hachi_There is no set good and evil otherwise Tyraz wouldn't be who he is
12:20.32Hachi_Tyraz has the powers and traits of an *evil* person, yet he holds mortal values in high regard.
12:20.42MonetThe Xol did nothing to the soldiers that tried shooting him and only stopped a missile it had diverted form hitting the ambulence with the child inside so as to preserve the child.
12:20.48AdmiralPandaHel'Bre'K is inherently uncaring of morality, to his own mind he merely exists. Other people assign good and evil to him.
12:20.49AeoneonatrixTyraz is every bit as immortal as any of the others, and yet he values most of what the patrons do.
12:21.04Hachi_Tyraz thinks the Patrons are dummies
12:21.05Wormy<PROTECTED>
12:22.19MonetFrom my recollection of the story, the Xol was quiteh appy to smash TANKS into each other and into buildings to clear a path for itself.
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12:23.01Hachi_Also, Dark Ascension
12:23.03AeoneonatrixHachi_ Well Tyraz is why the patrons are possible.
12:23.10Hachi_Eh?
12:23.38Xho_LunchMonet: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/2/23/ColossicomparisonwCal.png u c dis
12:23.38AeoneonatrixUnless immortal hyper-logic contains some very convincing things Immortals would NOT just drop everything and become completely amoral
12:23.53Xho_LunchWhy is there always an argument on here
12:24.00AdmiralPandaCus Aeo exists
12:24.00Xho_LunchGetting slightly irritated by this now
12:24.11AdmiralPandaAlso, join the club
12:24.18MonetXho_Lunch: I saw. Dam Caligaman is big.
12:24.22Aeoneonatrix#Lingur'snest
12:24.45Hachi_I'm tired of arguing honestly, I've already left once and I thought that would set an example for it to stop
12:25.07AdmiralPandaIt did, then the argument started back up again
12:25.10WormyI saw it Xho, it was good
12:25.23AeoneonatrixI'm trying to get people to not hate and refuse to interact with my fiction
12:25.32WormyWhat are the units?
12:25.34Hachi_You're not doing a very good job
12:25.36AdmiralPandaYou're going about it the wrong way
12:25.37Xho_Lunchmetres
12:25.43AeoneonatrixWhat is the right way?
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12:26.02AeoneonatrixRejecting the idea of immortals who are not total dickfaces?
12:26.12XhoWormy: metres
12:26.52WormyTaller than what Britain's Ordnance Survey considers a mountain
12:27.13MonetAeoneonatrix: The right way is not trying to label everything as either good or evil.
12:27.31Aeoneonatrixwat u mean?
12:27.33AdmiralPandaMonet's works much better than the demirant I was about to post, so I'll go with that for now
12:27.37AdmiralPanda*facepalm*
12:27.46XhoGood an evil are subjective
12:27.57XhoWhat I consider good is considered evil to another
12:28.03MonetWhy can you not get this?
12:28.09AdmiralPandaGood and Evil are words other people attribute to something. It's not a fact of being
12:28.22WormyMorality is percieved value
12:28.26XhoSure the vast majority of the world agree on the same morals but take a look at fundamentalism for example
12:28.34AeoneonatrixYou're either saying that the characters can't or telling me to reject my religion
12:28.39WormyI wish Ghelae was here, he had a good explanation for morality
12:28.49AdmiralPandaTo the AGC, Hel'Bre'K is a pretty good guy. To his enemies he's a demon. To the other Fordanta he's the model of neutrality
12:28.52XhoBecause they have literal interpretation from their sacred text which they regard as the absolute good, they'll do anything to go by it even if it is considered evil by the rest of society
12:29.00callmefailgood and evil are two words that mean nothing.
12:29.22WormyAeon:  It feels like your opinion (religion) is being shoved down our throats
12:29.39WormyWe have a right to argue back and disagree
12:29.49MonetAeoneonatrix: This is my opinion here but I've always thought the Catholic churches ideals have been a little outdated for a long time.
12:29.58AdmiralPandaIf I'm going to be honest, it's people like you that keep trying to thrust their opinion onto other people that made me abandon religion. I'm done talking in this channel.
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12:30.16WormyObviously, your opinion-aligned fiction is not working here.  Do something else, like Refugee stuff
12:30.40WormyI find Refugee quite refreshing being not opinion-aligned
12:31.26AeoneonatrixLook I had my characters believe in objective good because that's what I assumed was the default.
12:31.44callmefailand it turns out to not be the default.
12:32.14AeoneonatrixIt became an argument because people here are not my usual crowd
12:32.27MonetIt happens on the internet.
12:33.39AeoneonatrixI can simply arrange that the ideologies come up less.
12:33.58XhoIdeologies in the most basic sense are corrupt
12:34.06XhoUtopian-world views aren't gonna exist
12:35.02XhoAnyway where's that dum Oluap
12:35.20WormyIt is like several ecowarrior ideologies out there.  There was one who pulled up such a stink about GM rice, that the rice ended up being banned.  This caused the starvation and blindness to thousands in East Asia.
12:35.35Hachi_Monet: Which Segmentum is Brood located in?
12:35.38Hachi_Isn't it Umbra?
12:35.41WormyMany of them are ruled by stupid hierachies
12:36.04AeoneonatrixI'll de-emphasize it if its such a problem
12:36.07MonetI think Imp put the Brood in Segmentum Crepusculum.
12:37.25Xhohttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/9/9f/Cataphractus.png Also marvel once more at my horse damn you all
12:37.50MonetSorry Aeon but if morality was an objective concept there wouldn't be so many arguments as to waht is right and wrong.
12:38.04Hachi_Xho - LOOK AT MAH HORSE, MAH HORSE IS AMAZIN
12:38.13XhoPretty much yes
12:38.35XhoProbably the first thing in a while i've made and actually said 'well dis is gud'
12:38.44AeoneonatrixMonet: How many times have I refuted that?
12:39.10MonetHardly any?
12:39.28Aeoneonatrixbut anyways, i'm saying i'll do wat u want, so back off.
12:39.39XhoNgh
12:39.53WormyMonet:  It would be that we are wrong and Aeon is right.  However, I would have to bring up the Thewory of Knowledge again
12:40.10WormyYeah lets change topic
12:40.22Aeoneonatrixwell, Alikos will still debate, because thats who he id
12:40.29Aeoneonatrixbut other then that
12:40.34nihilistwannabewow
12:40.38Aeoneonatrixless of it
12:40.51WormyPerhaps ask us beforehand
12:44.12Sporeraptorgtg
12:49.46Monethttp://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/Marcos-Ridgewood-371196952?q=gallery%3Aspacer176&qo=0 chack this guy out :)
12:50.27Hachi_I am loving that sword
12:51.57MonetKimno identified him as being from the north. Does it show?
12:53.46Hachi_Jah
12:54.10XhoIt does show but Kinmo would have already known hur
12:54.29XhoI guess he's probably Northwestern
12:55.25MonetNortheastern actually - Redshire, his home county, is part of a vassal of the Empire of Man.
12:55.31Xhoo rly
12:55.41XhoKinmo - well dat fooled me
12:56.01XhoI have no clue as to what the terrain of the Northeast is like
12:56.38XhoIt would be a Steppe but cold
12:56.41XhoMy brain
12:56.42MonetPlains possibly?
12:57.02XhoOr that
12:57.27MonetI am right now picturing the Northeast as Rohan.
12:58.04MonetSuddenly marcos' blond hair and love for his horse makes a lot of sense hur.
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12:59.19XhoApart from the extreme east of the territory it would be flat
12:59.30XhoThe extreme east gets hilly/mountainous
12:59.46XhoAlmost as if the territory is built on a corner
12:59.50MonetI had wondered if Redhelm coudl have been like Windhelm.
13:00.02MonetImperios: http://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/Marcos-Ridgewood-371196952?q=gallery%3Aspacer176&qo=0
13:00.51ImperiosAlright, let's do it... MARCOOOOS RIDGEWOOOOD!
13:00.58ImperiosAt least he had a chicken
13:01.06ImperiosAnd that's why catastrophes follow him
13:01.19MonetLOl
13:01.30MonetReposting because more are here http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/866093583039267142/F5C1434A9979009A9F359BA031625D273135BE88/
13:01.43MonetSaxony had a great gneral that day.
13:02.00XhoSpolier for the next Forgotten Lands section: 'deemuns'
13:02.17ImperiosBy the way guys
13:02.19MonetDunno if you can see but part of the fortificatio their charging had cannons.
13:02.26ImperiosWho wants to participate in Where Ley Lines Meet
13:03.07ImperiosWe could arrange it that the events of WLLM happen AFTER or BEFORE the Forgotten Lands plot
13:03.17ImperiosHence characters like Marcos or Hachi could participate too
13:03.31XhoImperios: What happens in that story again?
13:04.06ImperiosSomething happens with the magic fields of Koldenwelt
13:04.27ImperiosSomeone is draining it
13:04.30MonetSoldier on the floor - Dunt mind me lads i'll just nap here.
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13:07.13ImperiosWhich results in all forms of nasty stoof
13:07.18MonetDo you know whaat I love about the 17 and 1800s? They didn't care for camoflage and opted to give their soldiers fancy uniforms with little interest in protection.
13:07.53Hachi_hai u
13:07.58ImperiosSuch as: stuff that was previously kept aloft by magic falling to the ground (BOOM), stuff that was previously CONTAINED by magic being freed (rawr), etc
13:08.00ImperiosHi Oluap
13:08.30XhoOluapPlayer: spolier alert for Forgotten Lands plot: Shiarchon
13:08.44OluapPlayerhi
13:08.51XhoAnd hello u dum
13:08.54OluapPlayerThat's a spoiler?
13:08.58OluapPlayerI thought it was obvious
13:09.11XhoWell my brain is clearly not working today
13:09.16ImperiosDum nobody cares bout WLLM
13:09.27MonetI care.
13:09.37XhoWell make a blog then I can care
13:10.03ImperiosThy will be done
13:10.53Hachi_I'm currently updating the Brood's history
13:11.24XhoImma try dis and if it doesn't work imma sodomize u all with a cactus
13:11.30Xho#ForgottenLandsStoof
13:11.37OluapPlayerdats wat imma do to u
13:11.45Xhonoh
13:12.03OluapPlayerI've seen your update on the Brood's page and i'd say you should move pre-Brood history to the Zazane Empire page
13:12.20Hachi_Ah makes sense
13:15.16OluapPlayerso dats 2 pages to update nhenhe
13:18.10Hachi_I'll update the Brood page first, then the Empire page
13:19.10AeoneonatrixSince I disagree with this place's philosophy so much that my writings are not wanted, should I go?
13:19.39MonetThere's always adapting.
13:19.48AeoneonatrixHow?
13:20.16WormyI disagree with fiction here but it doesn't make me want to quit
13:20.17AeoneonatrixBy writing against what I believe or changing my minds to conform to the people on the unternet?
13:20.28MonetYou don't have to write fiction based on your beliefs.
13:20.30WormyWe don't want you to
13:20.53WormyRemember the DCP is based on my fears in society, not what I believe societ should be
13:21.38WormyThus the DCP are an authoritiarian police state
13:21.56WormyWhere there is no privacy of information
13:22.02WormyNo freedom to argue back
13:22.46WormyThey are indeed flaws, but they are meant to exist because I like the effect
13:23.39AeoneonatrixWhich is them being bad guys. You realize that right?
13:23.50nihilistwannabeOnce again
13:23.52nihilistwannabewe have to say
13:24.02nihilistwannabegood and bad are merely subjective viewpoints
13:24.04MonetYeah, bad guys who saved the universe several times :P
13:25.03nihilistwannabeand maybe
13:25.09nihilistwannabegood and evil/bad do not even exist at all
13:25.10WormyAeon:  As I said, if you are not an objective moralist, the effect works
13:25.23WormyThey are likeable and hateable
13:25.59Aeoneonatrixwhich is why maybe I should go
13:26.07AeoneonatrixI'm too different
13:26.08WormyIt is like when people do dangerous stunts for the aesthetic enjoyment
13:26.35WormyOr how ugly things can be percieved beautiful
13:27.00XhoLike Pugs
13:27.06XhoWell not beautfiul
13:27.10Xho*beautiful
13:28.02WormyWe are not making you go, only yourself.
13:28.29WormyBut you keep bringing this up when nobody wants to talk about it
13:29.06Hachi_Most people here have had to adapt to the general mindset of there is no real good and evil in fiction here
13:29.13WormyPug owners will think their dog is pretty
13:29.22Hachi_I think pugs are funny looking creatures
13:31.06AeoneonatrixI cannot accept that amorality
13:31.36WormyLooks cute to me http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr0zitb5PJ1qa17c7o1_500.jpg
13:31.55Hachi_Why can't you accept it? It's only fiction
13:32.06Hachi_It has no real-life consequences
13:32.16nihilistwannabeAeon: learn to love it or leave it
13:32.35WormyIn many cases our fiction does not reflect our actual beliefs or opinions
13:32.38AeoneonatrixBut 1: you all actually believe it
13:32.52MonetI've had Draconis publicly execute people, even mercenaries. I don't approve but it makes good fiction.
13:33.50AeoneonatrixAlso being told not to think about it makes it mindless
13:34.05Aeoneonatrixoutside of pure science mind-stuff
13:34.06ImperiosI seriously hate fundamentalists, for example
13:34.10ImperiosBut I have the Divinarium
13:34.36WormyI've already the DCP is everything I'm not
13:34.39Wormy*said
13:35.17AeoneonatrixAnd MOnet has said he thinks slavery is sometimes okay and he's "not sure" if the DI's system is wrong.
13:35.54MonetWhen I said that I *did* mention that there are states of being that can be considered slavery, eg. pre-feminism marriage.
13:36.51WormyWhat about slavery to consumerist corporations that can do what they want and get away with it?
13:38.11Monet^
13:39.49AeoneonatrixThere is a problem in modern capiyolist systems of that sort
13:40.52Monetyeah, it devalues the worth of the customer and companies like EA and Activision can pump out shit and still rake in a profit.
13:41.15WormyThese icons in the electronic media only disenpower us
13:41.29Wormy"Get lips like X"
13:41.32Wormyetc.
13:56.47WormyClarke was right... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_monolith
13:58.00AeoneonatrixSomething just occured to me.
13:58.14AeoneonatrixI thought "Would America be evil by Lingur's standards"
13:58.38AeoneonatrixAnd I realized "No, because the people of America do not all basically agree with its government."
13:59.15AeoneonatrixMaybe we make it so that the people are not mouthpeices for the Realpolitik of their governments?
13:59.31AeoneonatrixWormy Monet Hachi Imperios
13:59.36MonetAeon would it ease your mind if I told you a PoW of the DI can save himself from enslavement if he takes an oath of allegience while they are still in the camp?
14:00.02WormyAs for ambassadors and diplomats, that is unlikely
14:00.14AeoneonatrixBut captains
14:00.16WormyHowever, maybe for civilian characters
14:01.05WormyDepends on how liberal the government is.  DCP captains are there to enforce the DCP's policies during politics
14:01.51WormyThere are rebeks in the DCPm including one successful faction
14:02.05Hachi_All hail Eclipsos
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14:02.42WormyThe Magellanic Sovereignty of Planets
14:03.28ImperiosAye
14:03.49OluapPlayerDdin't the DCP absorb the MSP after the Annihilation though?
14:03.51ImperiosWormy: The DCP accepts Eclipsos's empire's sovereignety now, amirite?
14:04.05WormyNo, they just left the MSP alone
14:04.09WormyAnd yes
14:04.17WormySince the MSP helped Mirenton recover
14:04.58ImperiosTheir relationships are like the USA and the UK, I assume
14:05.14WormyI would guess so
14:05.15OluapPlayerOh
14:05.35WormyEclipsos is yet to recover father-son relations though
14:05.59Hachi_Eclipsos - I'm sorry daddy ;A;    Wormulon II - You're such a disgrace
14:06.11WormyAfterall, Eclipsos's meddling lead to the death of some of the Warlord brothers
14:06.14ImperiosGood
14:06.23ImperiosNow I imagine Wormulus singing "Englishman in New York"
14:06.29Hachi_hur
14:10.18AeoneonatrixBout to write Mardor History. It's an allegory for abortion.
14:10.21AeoneonatrixJK
14:10.23AeoneonatrixSort of
14:11.32AeoneonatrixActually, the idea is that they basically think of "You shouldn't torture people" the way we would see "Homosexuality is an abomination"
14:12.40AeoneonatrixAnd "You shouldn't keep slaves" is "Niggers comin in and takin our jobs and rapin our woman with their RACE MIXING and WHITE GENOCIDE. If only we could put em back in the chains they belong in"
14:13.03AeoneonatrixSo it's insanely offensive hate speech that people go to jail over
14:13.44MonetAny particular reason?
14:13.48ImperiosWat
14:13.50ImperiosYeah
14:14.35AeoneonatrixBecause it's commentative on the idea of being afraid to speak up when your views are offensive.
14:15.10AeoneonatrixAnd it's realistic
14:15.31AeoneonatrixI figure if torture is to them what consequence-free sex is to us they will seek it the same way.
14:16.11AeoneonatrixSo someone saying "Torture is wrong"
14:16.30AeoneonatrixIs like a human saying "sex outide of marriage is wrong."
14:16.55Aeoneonatrixand evokes the same "Fuck you I like it" emotional response.
14:17.23MonetCasual sex is more common than you make it sound.
14:17.52AeoneonatrixOf course it is
14:20.08ImperiosThat's the point, Mon
14:22.02Hachi_Casual sex is rare in Zazane society, even rarer between unmarried couples
14:22.08Hachi_Aside from Kalcedia hur
14:22.46OluapPlayerKalcedia is casual sex personified
14:23.09AeoneonatrixTHe Aeoneonatrix have enough Casual sex that they need a super-solder program to donate the results to
14:23.29ImperiosDitto with Radeons
14:23.40ImperiosAs in "casual sex is rare"
14:24.02OluapPlayerhur Dracogonarious have no casual sex as they lack any kind of sexual attraction
14:24.29XhoI am a Dracogonarious hur
14:24.29Hachi_hao dey breed den
14:24.31AeoneonatrixSporeraptor how much casual sex do troodontids have
14:24.33Aeoneonatrix?
14:24.50R17dis frikkin' topic
14:24.57Hachi_Hachi has lots of sexual attraction = no secks at all hur
14:24.58OluapPlayerThey breed like flowers, i've already explained this
14:25.24Hachi_So Dracos don't go "ey gurl u wanna be pollinated tonite"?
14:25.33OluapPlayerno u dum
14:26.13AeoneonatrixBTW I have some plans for a fantasyverse campaign
14:26.25OluapPlayerA female only allows herself to be pollinated by a male of her choice. Otherwise the sexual organ literally does nothing
14:26.48Hachi_Dracogonarious females have a clever system of anti-rape hur
14:27.13OluapPlayerdrac - rape? dunno wat dat
14:28.28Hachi_Sex itself is painful for Zazane females but most enjoy it, aside from Keldar since she has metal condom
14:28.40Xhongh
14:29.04OluapPlayer"painful but most enjoy it"
14:29.08OluapPlayerwuld u stahp dis
14:29.12OluapPlayerWULD U STAHP
14:29.29AeoneonatrixDIS
14:29.30Xho^
14:29.34Xhowuld u stahp
14:29.39Hachi_;A;
14:29.56OluapPlayerKalcedia - THE PAIN PLEASES ME
14:30.11OluapPlayerXho: make Caligaduro-less size chart dam u
14:30.33Xholater.wa
14:30.35Xhov
14:30.46MonetIt's hard to compare the other colossi.
14:31.01Hachi_The Crux stands at 1km tall, he's pretty small for a Colossi if I'm correct
14:31.07Hachi_Well, not actually a Colossi
14:31.13Hachi_A pseudo-Colossus
14:31.23OluapPlayerThat's bigger than any other New Colossus
14:31.35Hachi_r u srs
14:31.45OluapPlayerNew Colossi range from 100-200m tall
14:31.51XhoOld Colossi hur
14:31.54Xhodey hoog
14:33.01Imperios>Sex itself is painful for Zazane females
14:33.04ImperiosIovera - fuk
14:34.59Hachi_There's reason for dis
14:35.22AeoneonatrixCaeris - Oh Hachi, I have the new gaming console here for you, and there is only one way I'll let you have it...
14:35.40Hachi_For a Zazane female, because of the arrangement of the male's genitalia, it feels like getting stabbed.
14:35.43Hachi_Like between the legs
14:37.06OluapPlayerdats evolutionary inefficient
14:37.39Hachi_Not really, it still does the same purpose but it's just painful. It happens with cats as well.
14:38.42ImperiosThat's why Iovera and Tyraz don't have kids
14:38.44ImperiosYet
14:38.56ImperiosTyraz - Ermmm Iovera - nu
14:39.10OluapPlayerIovera - make it not hurt dum
14:40.10OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Old_Colossal_One needs moar quotes
14:42.55Imperiosdere
14:44.54Hachi_You know, I have an interesting opportunity
14:45.06Hachi_Since Hachi has a race in the Fantasyverse
14:45.12Hachi_I could introduce more Lagosi characters
14:45.21Hachi_Oh, and quotes by the way
14:45.25Hachi_quoted*
14:51.04OluapPlayerHachi_: http://tgchan.org/w/images/2/26/DINGDINGDING.gif
14:53.31Hachi_ohgodlol
14:53.59Hachi_I've been thinking about introducing a red-furred Lagosi
14:54.18Hachi_Who would also be an exile but for different reasons
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15:04.33Hachi_Right, one idea I had for this new Lagosi character is that he is a mass murderer whose family was exterminated by the other Lagosi clans for doin heinous things
15:06.27OluapPlayerebul hachi
15:06.37Hachi_Except he's not a sexual deviant hur
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15:13.45BusyriosBack
15:13.58Busyrioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D8HxerLOYA We should make a SporeWiki version of this video
15:14.05BusyriosMikos being... Sarec?
15:14.08BusyriosHachi?
15:14.14BusyriosBut Hachi isn't European
15:18.14MonetGuy challenges other guy to duel, other guy's gun plays up and he shoots himself in the face.
15:19.47MonetLesson in life: If your gun jams DON'T LOOK DOWN THE BARREL TO  SEE WHAT'S WRONG.
15:27.50WormyHey I found Hachiman's battle cry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEIlxdPXJUY&t=6m14s
15:29.42OluapPlayerwat da fuk
15:31.30OluapPlayerHachi_: have you seen DiveQuest yet?
15:31.32Wormylol
15:31.50Hachi_DiveQuest?
15:32.00OluapPlayerIt's another Quest by Weaver
15:32.03OluapPlayerFantasy-themed
15:32.16Hachi_Whose the cute girl this time?
15:32.27OluapPlayerNot a girl hur
15:32.34Hachi_i sadz nao
15:33.06OluapPlayerhttp://pastebin.com/J705XWLg here's the links
15:33.08OluapPlayerIt's huge as hell
15:36.43Hachi_Is it scary like the other ones?
15:38.10OluapPlayerNope
15:38.14OluapPlayerIt's more adventure-themed
16:02.05Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Blood_On_The_Snow#Prisoner new chapters.
16:21.09Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Blood_On_The_Snow#Survival_Instincts more. I'm on a roll today.
16:24.47WormyScary stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Ramirez
16:25.28MonetRamirez. Where have I heard that name before?
16:26.10MonetHachi_: Which settlement could Marcos have been taken to?
16:26.50MonetDum.
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16:36.04HachiHai
16:36.35HachiHuh, no underscore
16:36.36MonetYay you lost your underscore.
16:36.37HachiYEAAAAAAHHHH
16:40.52Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Blood_On_The_Snow#The_Corruption story's nearly finished.
16:41.58MonetHachi: Which settlement could Marcos have been taken to?
16:43.33HachiNot one of the big cities but I'll see if I can think of a name for this settlement
16:43.57MonetThanks.
16:47.56HachiMonet: I saw these two peeps called Snipe and Wib play Darksiders on Youtube and they said "You're not one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, you're one of the Four Pedestrians of the Apocalypse" in reference to how he has no steed for the beginning of the game
16:48.16MonetAnd for at least half of the game too.
16:49.09Hachihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaRA3v_5m4
16:53.15Monet*sees an angel for the first time* "Oh ------ that's like the Emperor!" I love them already.
16:53.48HachiYeah they're BIG 40K fans
16:53.51Monet"I'm playing as Arthas I have frostmourne and everything"
16:54.06MonetY U no tell em about these peeps sooner!
16:54.09Monetme*
16:54.20HachiYou should see them play Fire Warrior and Space Marine
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16:56.47Wormyhello
16:56.50The_RandomnessHello everyone
16:57.26HachiHai Random
16:58.08The_RandomnessThis week, I shall rise from the dead.
16:59.47The_RandomnessOf course, I'll have to do several months of catching up before I truly come back.
17:00.08WormyThis Railway Crossings advert escalated quickly... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy-sIfsW7tg
17:00.38WormyI wasn't expecting the ending when I saw it on tv lol
17:01.13HachiThat advert made me depressed for like two hours
17:01.23HachiThe first time I saw it, anyway
17:01.40WormyThat is when I saw it, it made me sad
17:02.19Hachi"Is anyone else concerned that the boy knew about the train the whole time (while playing his I-Spy game) and was happy to let his sister stand there on the track and get killed? The evil little bugger!"
17:02.40Wormy"Little brother wins sibling rivalry."
17:03.21Hachiohgod
17:03.39The_Randomness~poke Xhodocto's
17:03.39infobotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Xhodocto's, pokes Xhodocto's repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
17:03.43The_RandomnessOops
17:03.55The_RandomnessSilly autocorrect
17:04.22The_RandomnessIt's getting smarter. It's trying to stop me from being annoying now.
17:07.03The_RandomnessEh, I might as well start catching up now. What are some of the major events I've missed?
17:07.05WormyAnother scary Networks Real vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8LatmgWQUY
17:07.20WormyThis means one thing.  Don't use Network rail
17:11.01WormyRandom:  In my fiction:  War of Hyperspace
17:11.33The_RandomnessLink?
17:13.14Wormy[[Fiction:War of Hyperspace]]
17:13.21WormyNo bot
17:13.48The_RandomnessOk
17:26.39Wormytest
17:26.58WormyIt might be a good idea to make a blog
17:30.32WormyThe_Randomness:  Can you think of any technology I've not considered http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AWormulon/Types_of_civilisation#Application_and_theoretical_physics
17:30.47WormyI seem to have run out of them.
17:30.56The_RandomnessYeah, I'll probably make one later.
17:31.20The_RandomnessI'm still reading that war page, I'll take a look in a moment.
17:33.26WormyI see
17:35.25WormyCool, 1000 MB to go for Tribble patch
17:37.58The_RandomnessI'll take a look now
17:40.25WormyI don't know if you read Cathemera Cure, the end of the New Grox Wars in the Andromedan Galactic War
17:40.47WormyI know the Salsetthe were last seen in action fighting the Meta-Emperor
17:42.01The_RandomnessI think I might've read that, the name sounds familiar.
17:42.25The_RandomnessIt doesn't look like you're missing anything I know of on that page.
17:44.44WormyStar Trek Online provided some useful input
17:44.58The_RandomnessI saw
17:45.33WormySome of it like absorbing energy from weapons and turning them into shield power is hard to explain
17:45.59WormyPower draining as well
17:46.02The_RandomnessYeah
17:47.20The_RandomnessLet me see if I can make a blog post on this.
17:47.23WormyAnd of course, building  resonator for "graviton beams"
17:47.41WormyI might be ale to remember more from a blog
17:47.52Wormywhile posting on it
17:50.37The_RandomnessWell, a blog post asking about stuff I've missed.
17:50.51The_RandomnessI guess I'll have to get on my desktop for that.
17:51.00The_RandomnessBrb
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18:06.30Xhoy irc ded
18:06.39Wormyhello
18:07.01XhoI went to see the new Star Trek film
18:08.13The_RandomnessAlready? I'm jealous.
18:08.27XhoI'm not a trekkie of any degree but it was a good film
18:09.57HachiHope it was better than the game they released
18:11.58The_RandomnessI maek blog: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Randomness/Finally_Coming_Back
18:12.37Xhour blog dum
18:12.41Xhogive it pictures
18:12.44Xhomany pictures
18:12.47Xhoall the pictures
18:12.54The_RandomnessNEVER
18:13.07The_RandomnessI will give it NONE OF THE PICTURES
18:13.08Xhoyus
18:13.10XhoNOH
18:13.14Xhopictures nao
18:13.17XhoNAO
18:13.34The_RandomnessVGN
18:13.46Xhoi dun get dis
18:14.13The_RandomnessSorry, I've been playing Tribes too much.
18:14.19The_RandomnessVGN = No
18:15.30XhoRight
18:16.06OluapPlayerthrows pugs at Xho
18:16.12Xhopoog
18:16.38XhoKuga wants me to make a video
18:16.42XhoUnfortunately I have no time
18:16.44XhoEver
18:17.05The_Randomnessmaek time noob
18:17.17Xhonoh
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18:18.24The_RandomnessHello
18:18.29Tek0516Hi
18:20.31XhoI should really write up another Incognito story
18:21.02HachiYeah I'm gonna carry on with Dysnomia - Episode 2 soon
18:21.51The_RandomnessI'll need to write some everything
18:22.07Xhogives Randomness everything
18:22.08Xhowrite it
18:22.24Tek0516lol
18:23.51The_RandomnessButbut
18:23.56XhoWRITE IT
18:25.02The_Randomnessthrows everything into the procrastination bin
18:25.05The_RandomnessThar
18:25.10XhoHachi: So the Corporation and Syndicate control flow of passengers in Andromeda
18:25.13XhoNOH DAT NOT RITE
18:26.12HachiXho: Jah, they decide who leaves and who enters
18:26.44WormyI'm going to see the Star Trek film on my birthday
18:26.53WormySO NO SPOILORS
18:27.00Wormyspoilers
18:27.02XhoIncognito - FUCK WHOEVER DECIDES WHO TELLS ME WHAT TO DO, LITERALLY
18:27.10Tek0516I'm hoping to see it the day after my birthday. :(
18:27.37Tek0516Yes, we miss it by one day over here. :(
18:28.42XhoDid you say the Syndicate were stricter or more lenient
18:28.59XhoCause Incognito might either have to be a sneaky git or kill a lot of people
18:29.02OluapPlayerSpoiler: Hachi dies
18:29.32HachiSyndicate are more strict
18:29.38XhoIncognito - oh ffs
18:31.33XhoHow much would you have to pay to get out of Andromead
18:31.38XhoAndromeda even
18:32.17HachiIt'd be more expensive than what Incognito paid for his entire body
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18:32.29The_Randomnesswit
18:32.36WormyOoh Tribble has patched
18:33.04The_RandomnessHuh, I got disconnected
18:34.41XhoConsidering Incognito has been in and out of Andromeda I suspect he could pay for it
18:34.57Wormy_BetaSTOStupid dumb firewall blocked it
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18:42.09HachiIf Incognito can afford it, it's gonna take a big bite out of his savings
18:42.29XhoIncognito - And i'll take a big bite out of theirs
18:42.34Sporeraptorhi
18:42.58HachiAlso, the Corporation keeps tabs on the high-class and rich people associated with them
18:43.16XhoIncognito - imma have to kill everyone
18:43.22Hachihur
18:45.24XhoAlthough a pissed off Incognito
18:45.45XhoOut of things you do not want to piss off Incognito is probably #2 in Andromeda
18:45.50Xho#1 being Kithanan
18:46.12HachiI haven't shown Kithanan being pissed off yet and it'll be a while before he gets truly angry
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18:46.18Hachihai monet
18:46.29MonetHi
18:46.32The_RandomnessHello
18:47.23XhoI wonder how it would go off with Kithworto
18:47.33XhoKithanan - BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW
18:47.38XhoKithworto - shup
18:47.41Hachihur
18:51.47The_RandomnessTime for lunch
18:55.16Wormy_BetaSTOGodzilla is one sad film
18:55.39Wormy_BetaSTONgh Beta server is always full
18:57.01HachiWhich Godzilla film?
18:57.16Monet1999
18:57.22MonetIt's almost finished.
18:57.42XhoHachi: What would be the most affluent race in the Syndicate
18:57.44Wormy_BetaSTOStill tapes and no mobile phones
18:58.02MonetI was watching earlier and I hate to say it but I couldn't help but laugh at the efforts of the US army.
18:58.11HachiThat's a lot of fish
18:58.15Wormy_BetaSTOMakes it look old fashioned
18:58.19HachiXho: Ask Monet dis hur
18:58.23HachiI imagine it'd be Draconis
18:58.29XhoMonet: Hachi's question
18:58.33XhoI mean my question
18:58.36XhoTo Hachi
18:59.05MonetYeah Draconis. If the Blessed Few weren't a clue, they have a connection to the Khaxvis Resurgence.
18:59.26XhoIncognito - never killed Draconis u kno
18:59.39XhoI suppose they're clothed in black
19:00.22HachiDon't pick fights with a Blessed One; despite what Kithanan did to one, they're one of the stronger Syndicate agents
19:01.14MonetMost mortals I imagine are pretty helpless since they tend to shrug off a fuckton of damage.
19:01.59XhoIncognito's gonna have a huge scrap by the sounds of it
19:02.56XhoBut I guess they're clothed in black
19:03.11MonetBlack with gold.
19:04.28XhoI wonder whether the Syndicate would have a file on Incognito
19:04.36XhoJudging by his name probably not
19:05.16MonetThey might have records of a robot Kicath.
19:05.41XhoThere'd probably be a lot of robot Kicath
19:05.43HachiI doubt they'd have a detailed file, the Syndicate is not linked to Corporation associates and actually dislike the Corporation itself.
19:05.50Xhobrb
19:06.16MonetAll i'll say is if he's ever eaten or worn anything that was manufactured by associates or fronts of the Syndicate, they'd know about him.
19:06.35HachiJah
19:08.31XhoHm
19:08.44XhoGood thing his name is aptly attributed hur
19:09.03MonetOh yeah and if his implants were Syndicate-manufactured....yeah...
19:10.00MonetTrying to think of a name hrmm, Having trouble spelling it, Belatherion?
19:10.17HachiName for wut?
19:10.33MonetTrying to think of a name for Marcos' horse.
19:10.39Sporeraptorbye
19:11.04MonetI've heard the name I mentioned somewhere but I can't for the life of em rememebr the spelling.
19:11.27XhoThey were probably Kicathian Remnant manufactured
19:11.58XhoIncognito claims his body is on par with the Agent IV body
19:12.11XhoThen again he claims he has killed 20,000 people
19:12.16XhoAs right as it is wrong
19:13.00XhoI dunno how that would go down against Syndicate agents
19:13.31HachiThey'd be suspicious as to where and how he got it
19:13.52XhoIncognito - Borealis lul
19:14.28MonetXho can you help me out? I'm trying to recall a name fro mclassical mythology, "Belatherion" is in my head but i'm trying my hardest to rememebr the correct spelling.
19:15.13XhoWhich mythology is this from again
19:15.32MonetI think it's Greek.
19:15.54The_RandomnessBellerophon?
19:15.59MonetThat's it!
19:16.11XhoWell I never would have got that hur
19:16.37XhoOh yeah Pegasus' rider
19:16.38Xhodum
19:16.50XhoI've got qualifications in Classics and yet I didn't get that
19:16.55Xhodum dum dum
19:17.17The_Randomnessnub
19:17.18MonetIt was probbably my horrible spelling of it.
19:19.33XhoTo put this into perspective, Incognito's cybernetics compared to most Kicath are like what Adam Jensen's are to those thugs in Hengsha
19:20.05MonetDamn.
19:20.28XhoI'm trying to work out how Incognito would fight Syndicate Agents though
19:20.53XhoAnd how capable they are against one like Incognito
19:20.59HachiConsider the fact they have Essence
19:21.15MonetWell they're all descended and have access to Morphis.
19:21.25XhoIncognito - oh ffs again
19:22.13XhoTo make this easier i'd have them fight Nu as Incognito and Nu are on similar levels of power
19:22.35XhoIncognito is basically Nu but with an IQ of 220
19:22.53HachiGeezush
19:23.28XhoIn order for Incognito to get through the checkpoint he'd have to either coerce his way through or kill all of the agents
19:23.53HachiDoesn't Incognito have charm and persuasion on his side?
19:23.56XhoAnd as they're very suspicious I imagine the latter is infinitely more probable
19:24.07XhoHe does but I doubt it would work against Syndicate agents
19:24.17HachiTrue
19:25.18XhoThis is a bloody hard battle
19:25.43Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Marcos_Ridgewood updated his page, some might want to update their quotes.
19:26.23XhoTo make this easier how would you say a fight between Nu and fifteen Syndicate Agents would go
19:27.09MonetFifteen might crush him unless he goes berserk.
19:27.28XhoIncognito is gonna have to be as discrete as possible then
19:27.31MonetIf we're talking Blessed Few.
19:27.38XhoJust general agents
19:28.28MonetMost Syndicate agents will ahve Morphis so maybe... each one is a degree less powerful than Corteus?
19:29.51MonetA normal agent could still deal considerable hurt to a civillian but someone like Nu/Incognito might have difficulty against fifteen of them.
19:29.55XhoIncognito gets access to Morphis
19:30.11XhoShit hits the fan
19:30.37MonetNot sure waht Morphis could do to someone liek Incognito apart fro mmake him harder to kill.
19:30.56XhoIt would probably send him on a Nu-squared level berserk
19:31.20MonetThe reason Morphis makes baselines a good deal stronger is because it assembles sub-cellular cybernetics inside your muscle tissue.
19:31.38XhoOh god Incognito would be impossible to kill hur
19:32.15Hachihttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/c/cb/HetiiNew.png vs http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/a/a3/CRE_Hetii-0ccfad11_ful.png
19:32.35MonetThere is one drawback to using Morphis during the Depression era. But it's a bit of a spoiler.
19:32.55XhoWithdrawal symptoms?
19:33.02HachiYou'll see, hur
19:33.15HachiWe can't reveal anything just yet
19:33.27HachiBTW guys, which version of the Hetii do you prefer?
19:33.33XhoThis is gonna be hard for Incognito
19:33.54XhoHe's gonna have to systematically take out the Syndicate Agents just to avoid being caught
19:34.03Monethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13S58aQw7wA
19:35.29MonetHachi: The old version looks more armoured.
19:36.15HachiKeep in mind that Hetii have two types; normal and Knight
19:36.25HachiThe Hetii Knight will be a lot more armoured
19:37.13MonetI think I do prefer the new one.
19:39.03The_RandomnessYou guys will not believe what I'm about to say.
19:39.10The_RandomnessI made another edit today.
19:39.20HachiYou're lying
19:39.37Wormy_BetaSTOJaw drop's to the core of the Earth
19:40.58The_RandomnessIt's true, I made more than one edit today,
19:41.21HachiDidn't your mother ever tell you not to tell phibs?
19:41.42Xhofibs u
19:41.43The_RandomnessNo, she did say something about fibs though.
19:42.51OluapPlayerHachi: nu boog
19:44.27HachiHetii are the bugs that use nuclear guns hur
19:44.49The_Randomnesspewpew
19:46.16MonetWell, its finally been revealed why Marcos is a wanderer (I think), dunno if any of you need to update your quotes.
19:46.27Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Realities_Altered/Dysnomia/Incognito#Episode_8 dere
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19:49.53Hachi_Awaynom tiem
20:02.52The_RandomnessChat is ded
20:05.22XhoBig surprise not
20:09.45Hachibak gayz
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20:09.59AdmiralPandaHello
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20:10.03HachiSpeaking of gays
20:10.11HachiHi Panda and Imp
20:10.13ImpyDroidBack
20:12.14HachiI dunno if I have ever told you guys this
20:12.23HachiBut I am an obsessive bottle cap collector
20:14.11MonetI don't think you have mentioned.
20:14.31MonetHas anyone here been reading the story "Blood On The Snow"?
20:15.05HachiI haz
20:15.13Wormy_BetaSTOUh oh new virus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22502143
20:15.27ImpyDroidMonet: I did
20:15.29ImpyDroidMe likes
20:17.22Hachihttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/4/44/HetiiKnight.png Hetii Knights
20:17.49ImpyDroidFreaky
20:17.57AdmiralPandaHel' - Gon need a bigger boot
20:18.19HachiHel's gonna need to watch out since Hetii use nuclear guns hur
20:19.40HachiXho: nice sekshun
20:21.28HachiImpyDroid: Would you be able to make a flag for the Brood?
20:21.36HachiI'm tired of the crappy MS Paint flag hur
20:22.43ImpyDroidHm
20:22.45ImpyDroidOkay
20:23.04AdmiralPandahttp://cheezburger.com/7443354112 Hachi gettin' fancy
20:23.20HachiMy Halloween outfit
20:23.29HachiI went as a REAL fucking vampire
20:23.56MonetIs it shameful if your army runs ot a force 3x your size?
20:24.04Monetfrom a force*
20:24.27HachiI would say it's smart
20:24.38HachiIt is not cowardice, it is strategic retreat
20:25.12AdmiralPandaHel' - We don't retreat, we merely advance in different directions
20:25.39MonetSoldier - Austrians...Austrians everywhere!
20:26.00HachiAll of them are either Arnold Schwarzenegger or Adolf Hitler
20:26.12HachiEither way, an army of both are terrifying
20:27.28MonetAll these Austrians were fresh recruits vs my veterens.
20:27.57HachiOkay, that's a bit shameful
20:28.12MonetI think they basically zerged me.
20:28.46Wormy_BetaSTOSome bad news I just saw on the news http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/several-shot-in-new-orleans-mothers-day-parade/story-e6freon6-1226640783812
20:29.10AdmiralPandaZerg troubles? Get fire!
20:29.11MonetMy occupation of fPolant has been bad news after bad news.
20:29.16MonetPoland*
20:29.20AdmiralPandaburn it and move on >:D
20:29.38HachiGuys, who would be on the Allies/Neutral/Enemies list of the Brood of War? I already have Imperium and Divinarium
20:30.09ImpyDroidWhat about the other AGC empire
20:30.41HachiSince they're part of it I wouldn't have thought the AGC would be on it hur
20:32.24AdmiralPandaFordanta?
20:32.50HachiThey'd be allies, right?
20:33.09AdmiralPandaprobably
20:34.36MonetPoland was a problem territory becuase no matter waht I did the populace kept staging revolts.
20:34.45ImpyDroidOther AGC empires as in
20:34.53ImpyDroidFords, NTA, etc
20:35.47HachiNTA and Coalitiion would be neutral, right?
20:35.54HachiCoalition*
20:36.02ImpyDroidNeutral or allies
20:36.53Xhohttp://www.loler.me/storage/4/1354670105.jpg Hivemind antics
20:37.29HachiXho: Where would the Kicathian Empire and Remnant be for the Brood? Allies, neutral, etc?
20:37.43MonetI suppose it wasn't a complete waste: I had to exempt Poland from paying tax so they'd shut up.
20:38.21XhoEmpire = Enemies
20:38.24XhoRemnant = Allies
20:38.59AdmiralPandabai, be back in an hour or so
20:48.54The_Randomnesskback
21:13.06The_RandomnessI'll be back in a few hours.
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21:18.23Wormy_BetaSTOI'll be back on my tablet in a while
21:18.41OluapPlayerWow IRC went empty
21:18.55Hachihur
21:24.04Hachihttp://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/215350_658168314200443_1804471214_n.jpg
21:25.47Hachihttp://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/215350_658168314200443_1804471214_n.jpg
21:28.00OluapPlayerhur
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21:30.14Wormyanyone seen time bandits?
21:32.12MonetI have
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21:41.00The_Randomnessnom
21:44.34The_RandomnessThere, take that pesky away message!
21:45.09Hachihur
21:45.25HachiOluapPlayer: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/4/44/HetiiKnight.png Your Hetii has evolved
21:45.55MonetDat one scary Hetii.
21:45.56OluapPlayerNu Boog has evolved into Nu Boog with Tail
21:46.28HachiHetii Knights are able to slice straight through filled trucks with that tail
21:47.13OluapPlayerHorder - bitches wish dey culd slice thru dis
21:47.20Hachihur
21:47.29OluapPlayerI'll be remaking the Horder when I get back to my PC, i'm not content with their current look
21:48.10HachiI think that I have been getting a lot better in the Creature Creator recently
21:49.09OluapPlayerI think i'll give them a page too
21:49.42Hachiyey
21:51.02OluapPlayerAlso, for the fantasyverse, I had the idea of making a vampire faction
21:51.24MonetIs "Bellerophon" a good or bad name for a horse?
21:51.35OluapPlayerGood
21:51.46HachiVampire fiction?
21:51.56OluapPlayeryus
21:52.06HachiLike, sexy big-chested vampire babes and badass warrior vampire guys?
21:52.14OluapPlayerxcuse me
21:52.18OluapPlayery u do dis
21:52.54MonetCoz he hachi.
21:52.56OluapPlayerI've not yet decided Count Dood's first name but his last name will be Dalverat
21:52.57OluapPlayerhur
21:52.58Hachiyus
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21:53.35The_Randomnessdat liquid
21:53.42Liquid_InkDis Liquid
21:53.48The_RandomnessIndeed
21:54.03MonetWOuld anyone in the Forgotten Lands group be unsettled marcos actually has fangs for teeth?
21:54.26OluapPlayerSea Witch - that's the most normal thing I've seen in months lol
21:54.26HachiHachi would be a little creeped
21:55.16HachiI always thought the Sea Witch was an antagonist
21:55.25HachiShe seems okay in Forgotten Lands
21:55.58OluapPlayerThat's because her first version was an antagonist
21:56.09OluapPlayerThat was back when she was Vargash on a mortal body
21:56.19MonetIf by "okay" you mean "moany bitch".
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21:56.29OluapPlayerShes neutral now
21:56.36AceOfSpaceAny of you have seen Aeo?
21:56.43OluapPlayerChaotic neutral to be more precise, she does whatever she wants
21:56.55AceOfSpaceWho is Chaotical Neutral?
21:57.03HachiSea Witch
21:57.24AceOfSpaceAh.
21:57.31HachiIf the Sea Witch can do what she wants
21:57.31Hachiy she no taek better lookin form
21:57.41AceOfSpacelol
21:57.43OluapPlayercause she's old and she's a jerk
21:58.17OluapPlayerOver the most recent years she has only been surrounded by either complete maniacs or people who want to kill her, or both
21:58.32HachiMakes sense, I can see why she'd be jerky
21:58.36OluapPlayerSo she's lost most of her social skills
21:58.45AceOfSpaceantisocial witch hur
21:58.58OluapPlayerAlso as you may have noticed, being away from the sea makes her weaker
21:59.05OluapPlayerand makes her sneeze salty water
21:59.07HachiYeah, I thought that was quite unique
21:59.17OluapPlayerOften at Hachi
21:59.24Hachihur
21:59.27HachiSea Witch - MY BEST FRIENDS ARE THE FUCKING BIRDS *sneeze* FAGGOTS
22:00.32OluapPlayerSo my vampire idea, there'll be a Dracula-guy and his servants, he owns no allegiance to any other villain faction and probably sees them as enemies, he'll live on a fortress somewhere at the north regions
22:00.39OluapPlayerand his forces aren't really that vast
22:00.58HachiAnd he'll have an obsession with counting
22:01.25OluapPlayerCount Dalverat - How many Hachis died today? One, two, three! Three Hachis!
22:01.31Hachiohgod
22:01.46The_RandomnessHehe
22:01.47AceOfSpaceHachi has 6 lives left
22:01.48HachiWill they be human-like vampires?
22:02.05AceOfSpaceEither 6 or 1.
22:02.12OluapPlayerHis servants come from various races, humans included
22:02.18OluapPlayerCount Dood himself is a demon
22:02.24Hachiyey
22:02.43HachiI am guessing Count Dood is Chaotic Evil?
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22:02.51The_RandomnessCount Dood? (insert deluge of dude puns here)
22:02.57Hachiohgod
22:02.57OluapPlayerMore like Lawful Evil
22:03.02HachiAh makes sense
22:03.08HachiEspecially for a vampire
22:03.09OluapPlayerAnd he has a demon form which probably looks like a Balanar hur
22:03.38HachiHe should be suave and charming, yet reclusive and isolated from people who aren't sexy women
22:03.45OluapPlayerhur
22:03.51OluapPlayerYeah that's kinda the idea
22:04.28HachiOoh, here's an idea
22:04.42HachiPerhaps he has a severe dislike for Inato?
22:04.47HachiSince its vampire and wolf hur
22:04.57OluapPlayerhur, could be
22:05.09OluapPlayerFor a while he was antagonized by a family line of Deiwos (humans or elves, didn't decide yet) who yielded the weapon capable of destroying him. This weapon being an enchanted whip
22:05.22OluapPlayert's totally not castlevina guise
22:05.27Hachihurhur
22:05.57OluapPlayerBut he successfully killed them all and the whip has been lost
22:06.10OluapPlayerso he's invincible atm
22:06.20Hachiyey
22:06.22OluapPlayerSo we need a hero or two to get said whip adn whip said Count
22:06.34HachiShould be a sexy Beastwoman
22:06.52HachiWhich reminds me, Beastmen need updatin too ngh
22:06.52OluapPlayerCount - i dun like dogs so noe
22:07.21HachiInato - u wot m8
22:07.55OluapPlayerHe'll have usual vampire aversions but heart-stabbing won't kill him
22:08.34HachiReminds me of the Dracula from Van Helsing a little bit
22:09.07OluapPlayerDracula is the main inspiration, yes
22:09.16OluapPlayerSo there won't be any sparkly homosex stoof
22:09.18OluapPlayerbrb
22:09.30Hachihur
22:09.39Hachihttp://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/249038_257726307707504_1295318413_n.jpg Just so you know, she voices a Pony
22:10.02OluapAwayEvenTara Strong voices Plum
22:10.04OluapAwayEvennow away for real
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22:10.27Hachitara strong y u do dis
22:10.29Hachiliek srsly
22:10.35HachiHai Panda
22:11.15AdmiralPandahai buni
22:12.51The_Randomnessdat panda
22:14.43AdmiralPandahi
22:21.12Wormytest:-)
22:21.34Wormyemoticon sneaked in there
22:22.01The_Randomness~eat infobot
22:22.01infobotACTION eats infobot and falls over dead
22:22.22The_RandomnessNot big surprise
22:23.34AceOfSpaceback from studying.
22:23.47AceOfSpaceAeo, I sent you a transmission
22:27.30HachiOluap you should make a villain based on Iblis hur
22:28.51OluapPlayerItsnousegon[
22:29.24Hachihur
22:29.43Wormyi got ome random message from a user called otakua55555 saying gibberish
22:30.05AdmiralPandaWord of advice: never get pulled into a Whovian conversation
22:30.07AceOfSpacelol
22:30.18AceOfSpaceWormy: Link to message?
22:30.19AdmiralPandaespecially when your knowledge comes purely from two episodes and Memebase
22:30.22AceOfSpaceOr you deleted it?
22:30.33Wormyon IRC
22:30.36AceOfSpaceoh.
22:30.47Wormyprivate chat
22:30.53AceOfSpaceuse pastie
22:31.16AceOfSpaceAlso,
22:31.21Wormycant be asked, im on my tablet
22:31.28AceOfSpaceoh.
22:31.31AceOfSpace:(
22:31.41AceOfSpaceI'm going to rewrite the Tadpole Empire article
22:31.46AceOfSpaceMake them a Monarchy
22:32.03AceOfSpaceAnyone has ideas for any improvement I could add to their page?
22:32.12AceOfSpace[[Fiction:Tadpole Empire]]
22:32.20AceOfSpaceoh, he's not there...
22:32.26AceOfSpacehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tadpole_Empire
22:32.30HachiYeah, change their name to anything but "Tadpole"
22:32.35AceOfSpaceWhy?
22:32.54AceOfSpaceIt's their race name, and I like it
22:33.16HachiWell, if you insist
22:33.26The_RandomnessBrb dinner
22:33.29HachiI would've gone with something more serious-sounding
22:34.17AceOfSpaceLike what?
22:34.37HachiAnything that isn't named after an Earth animal
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22:35.33AceOfSpacelol
22:36.05AceOfSpaceWell, I need a more original name for their current leader
22:37.06AceOfSpaceI can't think of anything
22:37.38HachiI wouldn't think "Tadpole" is a very original name
22:38.46AceOfSpaceI know.
22:39.03AceOfSpaceThat's why I want to rename him.
22:39.10HachiI meant the Empire
22:39.23HachiBut then again, nobody else has used "Tadpole" as a name for their empire
22:39.35AceOfSpaceYeah.
22:39.48HachiBut there are reasons for that
22:40.25AceOfSpaceDo you want to know why I called them Tadpole?
22:40.33HachiWhy?
22:41.11Wormyyou said this species can come in two forms, perhaps name them after a word to do with metamorphis
22:41.26AceOfSpaceBecause they share Amphibian traits, mainly their feet and graspers, and due to them having Cell Stage parts
22:41.39OluapPlayerHow does "Nightshade Clan" sounds like?
22:41.52AdmiralPandaKo: It sounds tasty
22:41.54AceOfSpaceNightshade Clan?
22:42.04Wormyyou cn find alterante words in the online dictionaries
22:42.17HachiOluapPlayer: I like it
22:42.30AceOfSpacebut anyway...
22:42.32AceOfSpaceThe Amphibian traits makes it an Amphibian frog-like thing, and the Cell parts makes it sort of a larvae-like thingy, classifying it as a Tadpole.
22:42.37AceOfSpaceThere comes it's name, Tadpole.
22:42.42AceOfSpaceBut Nightshade Clan seems interesting
22:42.46HachiVoledari - FUK UUUUU     Nightshade - LUL
22:42.59MonetAway"Tadpole" dunt sound dignified to me.
22:43.07OluapPlayerCount - NOTHIN UNUSUAL HERE
22:43.09AceOfSpaceEh?
22:43.44OluapPlayerSo the vampire faction is called Nightshade Clan, and the Count is called Xerlion von Dalverat
22:43.50Hachidat name
22:44.04MonetAwayMost tadpoles end up eaten before the end of their first cycle.
22:44.12AceOfSpacelol
22:44.30AceOfSpaceMonetAway: Few tadpoles evolved legs
22:44.40HachiXerlion is such a nice name
22:44.47AceOfSpaceThere were, like, 1158 Tadpole cells in Agethime's ocean
22:44.47HachiI want to name my kid "Xerlion" nao
22:44.55AceOfSpaceOut of those 1158 Tadpoles, only 8 went into land
22:45.18AceOfSpaceThe rest were doomed to be eaten by Snorfs hur
22:45.22OluapPlayerWell I sure as hell am not naming mine "Hachi"
22:45.23MonetAwayThat dounds like pretty crappy odds, no offence :P
22:45.31OluapPlayercus dats the gheyest name
22:45.39Hachi;A;
22:45.42AceOfSpacelol
22:45.47AceOfSpaceMonetAway: What do you mean?
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22:46.13AceOfSpaceHello
22:46.50MonetAwayI calculate a 0.6% survival rate.
22:46.58MonetAway0.68%
22:47.10AceOfSpaceouch
22:47.18AceOfSpaceThat's extremely low
22:47.51AceOfSpaceBut wait..
22:47.59AceOfSpaceAre you implying that the Tadpoles would have to survive in a hostile world?
22:48.45MonetAwayYou said only 8 went onto land, I assumed that the other 1150 were either eaten or stayed in the oceon.
22:48.59AceOfSpacestayed in the ocean
22:49.06AceOfSpacethough some were eaten
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22:50.05AceOfSpaceHello
22:50.45TwinkyI've been away for a bit. Any big projects going on?
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22:54.06Wormyhi
22:54.13AceOfSpaceHi
22:54.42TwinkyHi wormy
22:55.17AceOfSpaceAnyone has a good name for the Tadpole Empire leader?
22:55.30AdmiralPandaKing Wormy?
22:55.45AceOfSpaceThat'd be for the DCP Empire
22:55.51AceOfSpaceI think....
22:55.53AdmiralPandabut seriously, it's hard to take something called the Tadpole Empire seriously so I'm gonna pass
22:55.58AdmiralPandaIt's a joke you silly
22:56.02MonetAwayhttp://exterminatusnow.co.uk/comics/20130505-daemonic-on-arrival.png i'm a little uncomfortable the fox doesn't wear any trousers.
22:56.03AceOfSpacelol
22:57.33MonetAwayThen again there was a strip a while back that questioned "how can these boxers belong to this character (a cat) when all he wears is a bandolier?"
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22:59.57Tybusenkills Twinky
23:00.11Hachilel
23:00.13TwinkyOh. you did find me
23:02.03AceOfSpaceDoes the king wearing a lavender suit make him ghey?
23:02.17AdmiralPandalavender? It's an indicator
23:02.19TybusenOnly if it's a ghey shade of lavendar
23:02.28AceOfSpaceAdmiralPanda: Indicator?
23:02.49AdmiralPandawell, for all we know, lavender is the symbolic colour of badassery to tadpoles
23:03.01AdmiralPandait's kind of a dumb question to ask us when we don't know much about the Empire in question
23:03.09AceOfSpaceIt's their secondary color
23:03.17AceOfSpaceprimary being blue
23:03.40OluapPlayerHachi: Could the Nightshade and Voledari clans have had fought in the past?
23:03.41AceOfSpaceOk, I gave him a teal clothing
23:03.46AceOfSpaceI have his appearance at hand
23:03.51AceOfSpaceNow all I need is the name...
23:03.51TwinkySomeone is going to need to explain this whole empire of tadpoles thing.
23:03.54HachiOluapPlayer: It's quite possible, yeah
23:04.03AceOfSpaceTwinky: It's my Empire.
23:04.11Wormypink was a manly colour
23:04.13AceOfSpaceBut people are saying Tadpole is a ba name
23:04.18AceOfSpacebad*
23:04.28R17Tadpole is english
23:04.28R17they need an alien name
23:04.34R17imo
23:04.37R17imho*
23:04.46AceOfSpaceHow about a latin version of the word Tadpole?
23:04.55AceOfSpaceAs their language, Amphibina, is related to latin
23:05.25MonetAwayI called dibs on Lati nwith Dracid :P
23:05.27TwinkyWell, the shellious have a dumb name. I mean I was very uncreative. Shell, turtle. I failed.
23:06.51AceOfSpacegoogle traductor makes ghey names
23:06.57AceOfSpaceRanculus Empire....seriously
23:07.10AceOfSpacethat's even worse than Tadpole Empire IMO
23:07.20AceOfSpaceRanunculus Empire*
23:07.35AceOfSpaceEither Ranunculus Empire or Ranula Empire
23:07.40AceOfSpaceboth are bad
23:08.07HachiIf you dun want it, I'll keep Ranunculus for myself
23:08.17AceOfSpaceshure
23:08.24R17not as bad as the speed of my internet connection in terms of badness
23:08.30TwinkyHow bout a name that sounds like something a croaking amphibian would say. Just *croaking* ideas. Ha get it. Im sorry. That was bad
23:08.44AceOfSpacelol
23:10.08AceOfSpaceWow...
23:10.11AceOfSpacethis is so ironic
23:10.15AceOfSpaceI fell in love with the Bard tools
23:10.21TwinkyYou could also use tadpole as a nickname used by other races. For example: The Kaiyo (my squid race) doesn't have a real name becuase they communicate with color patterns rather than speech.
23:10.22AceOfSpacenow I am attracted to the Diplomat tools
23:10.35AceOfSpace(no homo)
23:10.55AceOfSpaceTwinky: Interesting.
23:11.04AeoneonatrixAceOfSpace do the tadpoles believe that there is a hell for those who DON'T follow source?
23:11.14AceOfSpaceAeoneonatrix: No.
23:11.17R17(there's nothing wrong with homo actually)
23:11.32AceOfSpaceThey believe that those who don't follow the Source will be like in a Limbo.
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23:11.45AceOfSpaceNot a hell, just in an universe where simply nothing exists and they're ghosts.
23:11.46AceOfSpaceHello
23:11.49BetaDude40Arryo
23:12.00MonetAwayReminds me of the FOlowing of Drakon's Path.
23:12.00AceOfSpaceOn the other side, they believe that those who follow the Source will instead be taken to heaven.
23:12.16AeoneonatrixWhy does source do this?
23:12.19BetaDude40So
23:12.39AceOfSpaceSource does not punish those who follow him, but he rewards those who follow and believe on him.
23:13.08BetaDude40Who's this Source guy?
23:13.14BetaDude40He some god?
23:13.19AceOfSpaceThe deity the Tadpole Empire believe on
23:13.21AceOfSpaceYes, a God
23:13.27R17yes
23:13.28MonetAwayThose who believe in Drakon (passive beleif in his existence will do) will spend eternity in his garden reincarnated as their child selves while those who turn theri back on him are damned to The Void.
23:13.29AceOfSpaceHe's a rather nice God, that's why the Tadpole believe in it
23:13.29AceOfSpaceHe is also worshipped by Religious Nations in Civ Stage on Spore
23:13.43AceOfSpaceMonetAway: wow, interesting.
23:13.55BetaDude40Ah, the void
23:14.02BetaDude40Home to such lovely creatures
23:14.08MonetAwayHOWEVER. Non-draconis are excempt from this rule. THey have their own places.
23:14.17AceOfSpaceOh.
23:14.31BetaDude40http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSb804SY23owyjNzLT-MeXdrdARBhigVfr1RzwINJgONDIseGzm
23:14.31MonetAwayThe Void in Draconid mythology is pure emptyness.
23:15.33AceOfSpaceMonetAway: But according to Source beliefs, those who end up in Limbo won't feel boredom
23:15.46AceOfSpaceThey will feel nothing, but they won't have the same joy as those who end up in heaven do.
23:15.59BetaDude40So, their not punished, they just get left lying around somewhere
23:16.01AceOfSpaceIt's essentially a better hell.
23:16.06AceOfSpaceBetaDude40: Correctly
23:16.22BetaDude40It's Hell, except without the Hell part
23:16.29AceOfSpaceYeah
23:16.32AceOfSpaceNo torture
23:16.38MonetAwayDepends what you define as Hell.
23:16.40BetaDude40I can roll with that
23:16.46AceOfSpaceYup.
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23:17.10BetaDude40In other news
23:17.15BetaDude40Herro
23:17.17AceOfSpacehi Random
23:17.21BetaDude40Ahem, in other news
23:17.29The_RandomnessWhop
23:17.35BetaDude40I have built an ass-ton of tanks again
23:18.28AceOfSpacenice
23:19.48AceOfSpaceHow does Hapte sounds for the Tadpole King?
23:20.19BetaDude40And right now, I am trying to figure out a species and stuff for a fiction, it's just not very easy
23:20.31BetaDude40Making species isn't my forte
23:20.50AceOfSpacelol
23:20.59AceOfSpaceI'm good at making species
23:21.07AceOfSpaceI'm bad at making their evolutionary path
23:21.22AceOfSpaceFor example, I'm not sure whether my future save game should be an Ecologist or Shaman
23:21.39BetaDude40AceOfSpace: Give me something about his personallity
23:21.52AceOfSpaceBetaDude40: The King's personality?
23:21.56BetaDude40Yeah
23:22.16AceOfSpaceHe's smooth and polite.
23:22.17BetaDude40If you understand a bit about how they act, their name can fit them better
23:22.40BetaDude40Uh huh
23:22.41AceOfSpaceHe is not urgently demanding, and classifies Diplomacy as a higher priority than War.
23:22.55AceOfSpaceThat, and he's very Royal.
23:23.09BetaDude40Yeah, Hapte sounds pretty good
23:23.25AceOfSpaceSo...the Tadpole's leader has a new name - Hapte!
23:23.33BetaDude40What kind og government is the tadpole empire?
23:24.01AceOfSpaceI'm changing them to be a Monarchy, but if you mean Archetype, then it's Diplomat
23:24.15AceOfSpaceTheir government is Just and Fair
23:24.34BetaDude40Constitutional Monarchy?
23:24.39AceOfSpace?
23:24.46BetaDude40Hang on
23:25.19MonetAwayDepends. Is he the absolute authority or does he have a parliamanent?
23:25.44AceOfSpaceDefine parliament....
23:26.21MonetAwayYou're American right?
23:26.45AceOfSpaceNo.
23:26.57AceOfSpaceEnglish's not my main language
23:26.59AceOfSpaceSo I don't know all words
23:27.07MonetAwayApologies.
23:27.31AceOfSpaceIt's alright
23:28.07MonetAwayParliamant is something from the United Kingdom. it's basically a seat of government were publicly-elected ministers manage the country.
23:28.22AceOfSpaceOh.
23:28.49AceOfSpaceWell, it's a mix between Absolute Authority and Parliament
23:28.58AceOfSpaceHe does rule the entire Empire by being the leader of the Grand Council
23:29.18AceOfSpaceBut there are several other Minor Councils that aid in the government through lesser-important tasks
23:29.20MonetAwayThat's a constitutional Monarchy then.
23:29.31AceOfSpaceOh.
23:30.49OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nightshade_Clan paeg is dun
23:32.40MonetAwayhttp://exterminatusnow.co.uk/comics/20110605-where-everybody-knows-your-name.jpg so many cameos...
23:34.39AceOfSpaceHey, since Hapte is the first king,
23:35.23AceOfSpaceShould he be adressed as 'King Hapte the 1st', or simply 'King Hapte'?
23:36.29Hachiyey nightshade gayz
23:36.31Hachiguyz*
23:36.56MonetAwayHehe
23:37.13OluapPlayerHachi: https://vine.co/v/b0rmEwPZtMl
23:40.12HachiWow, I want one of those
23:43.59OluapPlayerquote on bat-peeps nao
23:45.35AceOfSpacebatpeeps
23:45.37AceOfSpacereminds me of batman
23:45.43AceOfSpaceso they're batmen hur
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23:46.22Wormyhi
23:47.47AceOfSpacehi
23:48.14AceOfSpaceWormy: Is it possible to use Wormholes to arrive in other Galaxies in the SporeWiki fiction universe?
23:48.28WormyYeah
23:48.40AceOfSpaceOh good
23:48.43MonetAwayhttp://exterminatusnow.co.uk/2011-04-11/comic/the-cesspool/putting-the-tool-in-bargaining-tool/ quick tip for pulling a hostage situation: Don't bother if no one cares about the life of your hostage .
23:49.05AceOfSpaceSo I can plop down some colonies in the Andromeda Galaxy(does not means shitting colonies)
23:50.05MonetAwayWormholes...aren't that easy to make.
23:50.53AceOfSpaceMonet: I meant using existing Wormholes
23:50.59MonetThe AGC (monitord by the Draconid Imperium) does own a wormhole connection between the Milky Way and Andromeda.
23:51.09AceOfSpaceOh nice
23:51.15AceOfSpaceBut are they friendly or hostile?
23:51.24WormyThe Civilisation probably has established wormholes
23:51.24MonetNeutral.
23:51.29AceOfSpaceOh.
23:51.44AceOfSpaceAnd what arm of the Milky Way they are on?
23:51.50MonetBut like I said, the Imperium likes to keep watch on traffic in and out of the wormhole.
23:52.47AceOfSpaceOh.
23:53.01AceOfSpaceWell, I've been wanting to colonize galaxies for some time.
23:53.07AceOfSpaceWhy am I not allowed to create my own Galaxy?
23:53.30MonetThe 1st gig has enough galaxies.
23:53.40AceOfSpaceOh.
23:53.45WormyWe got fed up of having too many galaxies
23:53.48AdmiralPandaBecause everybody used to do it, and we had ten bazillion galaxies with no logical explanation as to why races could get between them
23:53.54WormyThen having to map them all
23:53.54AceOfSpaceAh.
23:54.03AdmiralPandait was mostly to simplify how fictions were interacting iirc
23:54.12AceOfSpaceI get it.
23:55.41BetaDude40Ok so
23:55.49BetaDude40What was it then?
23:57.26MonetUm... Did the Kaiyo just mock the Draconizane Dominion's military tactics?
23:58.09The_RandomnessLet me check
23:58.11Twinky_AwayYes.
23:58.43OluapPlayerDumb
23:58.56The_RandomnessYes, they did.

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