IRC log for #sporewiki on 20130418

00:00.35vagoooponoswot
00:02.22OfficerJackallink?
00:03.04Tek0516TV commercial.
00:04.04Tek0516Short version: Android app billing info is sent to the developer, therefore you should use Bing.
00:05.04Tek0516And yes, that's pretty much it.
00:06.07OfficerJackal:|
00:06.29OfficerJackalSo are they telling us to also get a Windows Phone?
00:07.00Tek0516That too.
00:07.59Tek0516The commercial was the second video: http://www.scroogled.com/
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00:10.03AdmiralPandajust quickly, alcohol is a hydrocarbon
00:10.24vagoooponosalright
00:10.34OluapPlayerMonet: Can I add your drawing to Ark's page?
00:11.18OfficerJackalTek016: They have a point, but it's not that big of a point.
00:12.34Tek0516And that information is the billing information, if I recall correctly. It's also in the terms and conditions.
00:15.29MonetOluapPLayer: Sure.
00:15.46OluapPlayeryey
00:25.22Tek0516...
00:26.35Tek0516So daily chat logs are uploaded around 8:00pm here. Due to timezones I could never figure that out before.
00:30.44Tek0516~test
00:30.44infobotACTION hunts tek0516 down and lays eggs in his digestive system
00:31.33Tek0516Hm... I'm the only Delcath user on...
01:23.43OfficerJackal~test
01:23.43infobotACTION hunts officerjackal down and lays eggs in his digestive system
01:25.03Tek0516hi
01:38.21OpelSpeedsterLogin issues..again..
01:38.27OpelSpeedsterI thought it got fixed
01:38.29Tek0516same her actually
01:38.32Tek0516*here
01:38.39OpelSpeedsterYou getting Invalid Login?
01:38.55Tek0516Yeah.
01:39.05OpelSpeedsterGood, so I'm not the only one.
01:39.14Tek0516I thought it was the fact I had transferred this save causing problems again.
01:40.52Tek0516My computer was restored, so I had to manually transfer save.
01:41.19OpelSpeedsterI see.
01:41.49Tek0516There was a slight glitch at first, but everythings fine now.
01:43.18OpelSpeedsterBut what about the login issue?
01:44.35Tek0516That's probably server-related.
01:45.02OpelSpeedsterI see...
01:45.11OpelSpeedsterThis sucks because I want to share this adventure I spent the whole day making
01:45.15Tek0516Oh no... I think it's been shut down.
01:45.49OpelSpeedster?
01:45.50Tek0516nvm.
01:46.30OpelSpeedsterAlso...
01:46.41Tek0516Shut-down was flase.
01:46.45Tek0516*false
01:46.59OpelSpeedsterIf you enter an adventure with absolutely no goals and you click the button that makes you quit the adventure, does this count as winning it?
01:47.26Tek0516Gah... I use "false" almost daily for computer science... how do I keep misspelling it...
01:47.36Tek0516I'm not sure, but I'd think no.
01:48.26OpelSpeedsterThen how am I supposed to complete an adventure with no goals?
01:48.38Tek0516You can't?
01:49.11OpelSpeedsterThis adventure I made has no goals
01:49.19OpelSpeedsterAnd 4 people scored 100%
01:49.37OpelSpeedsterhttp://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=advasrch-Add%20your%20Embassy%3Afi-name%3Afu-ADV_ATTACK%2CADV_COLLECT%2CADV_DEFEND%2CADV_EXPLORE%2CADV_UNSET%2CADV_PUZZLE%2CADV_QUEST%2CADV_SOCIALIZE%2CADV_STORY%2CADV_TEMPLATE%3Afl-NEWEST
01:51.18Tek0516I guess quitting then?
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01:51.52Tek0516hi
01:51.56OpelSpeedsterHello
01:53.50OpelSpeedsterPhew.
01:53.55OpelSpeedsterRestarting SPore fixed the login issue
01:54.16OpelSpeedsterApparently, I have disconnected from Steam, so that automatically blocked me from logging in to Spore.
01:56.39OpelSpeedsterThis is the adventure I said I spent the whole day on: http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-OpelSpeedster|500901429088%3Asast-500904397418
01:56.48OpelSpeedsterI began it last week, finished it today.
01:56.53OpelSpeedsterstarted it*
02:11.53OpelSpeedsterGotta go
02:11.55OpelSpeedstercya
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02:28.42Tek0516hi
02:33.26MecharicHerro
02:38.39Tek0516Hm...
02:38.44Tek0516Ded
02:44.41OfficerJackal_I account for over half of the chat lol.
02:44.52Tek0516lol
02:53.06Tek0516test
03:09.34Tek0516~test
03:09.35infobotACTION hunts tek0516 down and lays eggs in his digestive system
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03:44.53Tek0516hi
03:49.02vagoooponosherro
03:53.37Tek0516So with my current idea you wouldn't see many female Garenti: http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/6/6b/Garenti_Size_comparisons.png
03:54.08Tek0516Imagine a sentient, eternally pregnant T-Rex.
03:54.54Tek0516They obviously wouldn't reproduce the same way as humans. That'd be a little odd.
04:00.26vagoooponosthey must be like queens or something
04:00.50vagoooponosso they're kinda' bug-like I guess?
04:01.42Tek0516Wel reptillin , but possess that insect trait. It's just an idea for now.
04:01.48Tek0516*reptillian
04:02.44vagoooponosKinda' reminds me of the Skaarj from Unreal. They're also a reptilian race that breeds like hive insects.
04:06.10Tek0516I'd never heard of it.
04:09.42Tek0516One point would be explaining fertilization. It'd probably have to be something post-laying, or something you probably don't surive.
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07:10.30AdmiralPandaHi ImpyDroid
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07:20.49GhelaeHello.
07:23.58AdmiralPandaHi Ghel
07:27.41AdmiralPandaContemplating doing an alternate history story in which Hel' takes over the Empire after the AGC starts to fall apart
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07:34.26GD12hi
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07:36.09Hachi_Hello
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07:41.10GD12hi buni
07:41.51Hachi_hai GD
07:42.56GD12does Koda have downloadable png?
07:43.19Hachi_Yeah it's on the page
07:43.38Hachi_http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/9/9c/Koda_%281%29.png
07:43.43Hachi_Right gotta go
07:43.45Hachi_Cya all later
07:47.22GD12ngh i permanently lost my mouse
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08:16.46LawfulInsaneBored. No work to do. Recovered from cold. Still got sore throat.
08:18.29AdmiralPandaoffers LawfulInsane delicious candy and an undead kitten
08:18.44LawfulInsanedestroys the undead kiten
08:18.54LawfulInsanerejects the candy
08:25.30LawfulInsanedevours his own soul
08:30.33GhelaeHello.
08:32.01LawfulInsanehi
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08:39.25LawfulInsane??\
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09:29.20GD12ngh
09:29.36AdmiralPanda?
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09:29.58GD12the girl i wanted to ask for school dance already has date
09:30.07GD12dance is in a few days
09:30.08LawfulInsanei was playing Xho's Angazhar adventure and Angazhar fell into the lava and died lul
09:30.08GD12hence
09:30.09GD12no date
09:30.53AdmiralPandathat sucks
09:31.01GD12aye
09:31.06AdmiralPandago stag, steal girl, profit
09:31.27LawfulInsane...
09:32.24GD12hur
09:34.39GD12one of the main reason i gave dominatus genetically encoded waifus is so they dont get this problem hur
09:34.41AdmiralPandaunless it's one of those annoying ones where you have to go with a date
09:35.28AdmiralPandaI spent my valedictory drinking with and talking to a female friend of my friend's girlfriend
09:35.38LawfulInsane???
09:35.39AdmiralPandaall things considered, the night went pretty well
09:36.09LawfulInsaneThanks to Dark Injection, my captain is now as big as an epic.
09:37.54GD12Dark Injection be kewl
09:38.08GD12all of tyhe up to date tyranny models are made in it
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09:38.31GD12Hi dere
09:38.32LawfulInsaneI had a team of Master Kroc, Kithworto and Karnak. Master Kroc was the first to die.
09:38.34LawfulInsaneHi
09:38.39Monet_Hi
09:38.57GD12Monet_ i c u had first contact with Flashfire's new empire
09:39.15Monet_Yeah.
09:39.28GD12DI is one of the better civilizations to have FC with
09:39.44GD12AdmiralPanda : I'll try tommorow to find a date haha
09:40.46GD12dis dum shenanigans should be more mathematical
09:51.45ImpyDroidhi
10:03.12AdmiralPandaLul gon be interesting when Flashfire's doods meet the Fordanta
10:03.31GD12gon be interesting when they meet Dominatus hur
10:03.33AdmiralPandabtw can I get a link to the first contact thingy so I can get a feel for what they're like?
10:04.03GD12somewhereh ere http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AMonet47/Sandbox
10:04.46GD12you have to press edit page to see it though
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10:08.05GD12bak
10:08.08Monet_The whole "we didn't know this sytem was yours" was my idea. I figured DI technolgy is so sophisticated it couldn't be tracked by a T5 using energy signatures or listening to radio waves or anything.
10:08.18GD12makes sense
10:08.25GD12or it would look lkike cosmological phenomena
10:09.33LawfulInsanehey Impy, i iz da beach murderah
10:09.38GD12will this new fic be inducted into the AGC?
10:09.59Monet_I think that's waht Flashfire wants.
10:10.08GD12c i do
10:10.19GD12I wonder what happens if he encoutners Hedon
10:10.27GD12Flashfire fic - so are you with the DI?
10:10.33GD12Hedon - Who you think i am foo
10:11.09Monet_"energy signatures look liek cosmological phenomena" >> This only adds to theri reputation.
10:11.38GD12aye
10:11.43LawfulInsaneI JUST SAW A XHODOCTO IN A SWIMSUIT IN ONE OF IMPY'S ADVENTURES
10:12.09Monet_Dafuq.
10:12.33LawfulInsaneYup.
10:13.08LawfulInsanesould i kill it?
10:13.33Monet_Dunno
10:13.39LawfulInsanei should
10:14.10Monet_Evidence for the DI could come from an altered infrared output on certain stars.
10:14.42LawfulInsane's cyborg captain stealth cloaks, stabs the swimming Xhodocto and finishes it off with a poisoned blade
10:16.44GD12test
10:17.22Monet_Random fact: You can easily make a cyborg without the bot pack.
10:17.30GD12the theians do that
10:17.34LawfulInsaneused Dark Injection
10:17.36GD12i mean you do that for the theins
10:18.09Monet_Not always.
10:18.24Monet_The cybernetics can be completely internal.
10:18.37GD12LawfulInsane : This was made with Dark INjection http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/5/57/HorsemanOfDestinyPortrait.png
10:18.40GD12that too
10:19.07LawfulInsaneI used Dark Injection to create an epic-sized advanced cyborg captain.
10:19.37GD12the thing riding the horse is kinda human
10:19.56GD12as far as a human enhanced by a Dominatus is nhuman
10:20.33Monet_J.C. denton is a cyborg
10:21.23Monet_Even Arsac is a cyborg.
10:21.29LawfulInsaneI know.
10:22.58GD12my fic is either cyborg, robot, or Dominatus
10:23.09LawfulInsaneo
10:25.18GD12even the human riding the horse in that picture is 6 meters tall
10:26.48Monet_Mithra has quite an unconventional companion for someone like her,
10:27.43Monet_She has a pet Descended Koda.
10:28.36GD12Nosferatu - I thought mah koda was speshul
10:28.43GD12i mean
10:28.45GD12Nosferatu - ...
10:29.04Monet_Mihra - Ha-ha. Made you talk!
10:29.12GD12Nosferatu - ngh
10:29.14GD12i mean
10:29.16GD12Nosferatu - ....
10:30.17GD12my fiction nears its one year anniversary
10:33.28GD12nomtaim
10:33.29GD12bai
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10:37.21LawfulInsaneI was tripping over creatures as I played the adventure.
10:37.23LawfulInsaneHi
10:37.44vagoooponosHerro
10:38.21LawfulInsanewho are you?
10:39.06vagoooponosR17
10:39.36LawfulInsaney u do dis
10:39.47AdmiralPandathere is no logic to what R17 does
10:39.51AdmiralPandawe just accept it
10:40.15LawfulInsaneI like his spacetime messing. Granted me Dominion powers.
10:41.08vagoooponosI tend to defy logic
10:41.24vagoooponosa trait which the Radux take up to 11.
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10:47.46LawfulInsaneHi
10:47.54FlashfireI have risen.
10:47.58FlashfireHow are you all?
10:48.14LawfulInsaneeats Flashfire
10:48.17LawfulInsaneTIS HOW I FEEL
10:49.37FlashfireDoes the fiction universe use normal months?
10:49.44FlashfireApril, May, June, etc?
10:50.58AdmiralPandanot really, no
10:51.08AdmiralPandabecause nobody uses the roman calendar
10:51.53Monet_Also the timeline progresses 7x faster than normal so 52 days = 1 earth year.
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10:52.05Monet_In SW time
10:52.12FlashfireNo I mean
10:52.20FlashfireIf we were looking at a calendar in RP
10:52.27FlashfireWhat would it say?
10:52.29Liquid_InkHey, Ghelae, do you know if anyone has used the C'Servoid Empire in fiction?
10:52.35FlashfireSome weird alien months or something like August?
10:52.40GhelaeI don't think so, no.
10:52.46Monet_Flashfire: Depends on the fiction.
10:52.51AdmiralPandaif a fiction character was looking at a calendar, of course it would be in their calendar not ours
10:53.01AdmiralPandaHumans might still use the Roman, but prettymuch nobody else would
10:53.14FlashfireK
10:53.50Monet_You're in Androemda. The DI's calendar is the msot commonly-used one there.
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10:54.30FlashfireLink?
10:54.40GhelaeHello.
10:54.42Monet_The DI's eyars make more sense imo: 12 months, 30 days in each and "weeks" are 10 days long.
10:54.49GD12Hi
10:55.02Monet_Hi
10:55.25GhelaeI don't think anybody's ever argued that our calendar "makes sense".
10:55.31FlashfireWhat are the names of the months?
10:55.33Monet_Although there is a difference in timescale. While the DI calender is 360 days long, it is 420 days long compared to Earth.
10:55.48R17http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/History Draconis Calendar is here
10:56.25GD12Urielna
10:56.32GD12hur Uriel has a month named after him
10:56.38FlashfireSince they wouldn't know the names of these
10:56.41GD12Julius and Augustus Caesar - Took Mah Jerb
10:56.44AdmiralPandaThe Fordan calendar is just plain hilarious
10:56.50FlashfireThey will call them Month 1, Month 2 and so on
10:57.11Monet_GD12: Just like Gaius Julius Ceasar and July :3
10:57.34GD12I dunz know how dommie calendar works
10:57.40AdmiralPandaThe calendar is broken up by significant events, so a day might be called 'Third day of Founding'
10:57.45Monet_Although chances are the month was named after one of Uriel's pre-spaceflight ancestors.
10:57.46AdmiralPandaso no months have the same length XD
10:57.51GD12o i c
10:58.59Liquid_InkHow about the Black Claw?
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10:59.17AdmiralPandaThe zealot doods? Haven't heard of them in wikiverse
10:59.21Monet_For some reason Draconis name their months after famous people.
10:59.22Monet_Hi
11:00.06Monet_The exception appears to be "Sendara" which was a planting months.
11:00.10Monet_month*
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11:00.19AdmiralPandaNow that I think of it, the Fordanta don't have an established calendar, apart from the seasons
11:00.31AdmiralPandathey just refer to important things that happened for the most part
11:00.44OluapWorkerhello
11:00.52GD12hi
11:01.04Monet_Arcarenna is probably when Arcaren, Alcanti's Moon, is when its at its most trikingi n the night sky.
11:01.31Monet_Dunno maybe that's when you get a particular face of the moon.
11:01.34IAAIRAIgreetings
11:01.40Monet_Hi
11:02.00Monet_striking*
11:02.35Monet_Arcaren is a little bigger than the Moon, so the tides on Alcanti are a ltitle more significant.
11:02.43GD12c i do
11:02.44Monet_Waves are bigger too.
11:02.59IAAIRAIwhat are we talking about here gentlemen?
11:03.00GD12Demogorgon Prime dunt have moon
11:03.04GD12our planets
11:03.08GD12the planets of our fiction
11:03.11AdmiralPandastuff
11:03.38R17herro AI
11:03.47FlashfireAlso, what is a sector?
11:03.48Monet_Actually, if waves are bigger and the tidal peaks are more significant, does this mean Alcanti is a btter source for wave and tital power?
11:03.58IAAIRAIdarn
11:04.00Monet_FlashFire: Imperial or general?
11:04.01GD12sector is bigger than system but smaller than segmentum (in andromeda terms)
11:04.04AdmiralPandaMonet: theoretically, yeah
11:04.13GD12segmetum is replaced by arm in other galaxies
11:04.14FlashfireJust generally
11:04.14IAAIRAIi still dont have main planets or my fic *facepalm*
11:04.26FlashfireIs it just a group of stars?
11:04.42Monet_A sector isn't exactly a uniform area of space.
11:04.46GD12its a group of systems i believe
11:04.46AdmiralPandaIt's typically more of a political boundary than a cosmographical
11:04.48R17Sector is a very broad term
11:04.50GD12generally an administrative region
11:05.17AdmiralPandaThe Fordan Empire covers the Ko'Sa'Va sector, for example, but the area that that sector denotes changes from time to time
11:05.45GD12Region can also be used instead osector if that floats your boat
11:06.02Monet_For example: I nthe Imperium a secot is a cluster of colonies. In the Miky Way, Bunsen and Borealis a sector is (mostly) a uniform chunk of a galactic arm.
11:06.09Monet_sector*
11:06.16AdmiralPandalul, the place of OluapWorker's Fortress XD
11:06.29OluapWorkerwat
11:06.39AdmiralPandaKo'Sa'VA
11:06.49AdmiralPandaSa means stronghold, Va means place
11:06.57AdmiralPandaplace of OluapWorker's Fortress XD
11:06.59IAAIRAIwell off to update my fic
11:07.15OluapWorkeri dun get it but okay, I got your sector now
11:07.24AdmiralPandalul you dumba
11:07.36AdmiralPandaKo means kindred, so you dun't get fortress
11:07.38AdmiralPandaI was making a funny
11:07.45AdmiralPandaor sector for that matter
11:07.54OluapWorkerur no funi black and white bear
11:08.11Monet_OluapWorker:blind idiot translation is Ko(luap's)'Stronghold'Place.
11:08.13AdmiralPandaslaps Ko with a wet salmon
11:08.20OluapWorkercries
11:08.26OluapWorkerAh
11:08.27OluapWorkerAlright
11:08.46GD12hur
11:08.56OluapWorkerSuddenly Koluap becomes ruler of an Andromedan sector
11:09.08AdmiralPandalul
11:09.09R17oh no, not salmon
11:09.14FlashfireWait
11:09.14AdmiralPandaHel' - Git off mah lawn boi
11:09.24FlashfireYou guys have actually made a language?
11:09.29OluapWorkerKoluap - quiet u make me a sandwich
11:09.35Monet_Flashfire: Several people have.
11:09.42FlashfireI want links to them pages
11:10.14GD12Flashfire : I haven't made a stable grammar pattern but ive made charaacters
11:10.25Monet_So far we have pages for Dracid, Kicathian, Xhodocto Languages, Loron Spik, KUL, Shellious language and Raddesic.
11:10.28OluapWorkerNot me though, can't be bothered
11:10.36AdmiralPandaFordan language is so nutso that there's no point
11:10.42GD12Here http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/c/ca/MortrigName.jpg
11:10.50AdmiralPandamost humans can't grasp its concepts. Chinese people would have a better shot at it
11:10.51OluapWorkerMost I can do is make up random works and say it's a Vida'Rra word
11:10.57AdmiralPandaI KNEW IT!
11:11.04GD12i cbf make grammatical structure for dominatus language
11:11.11GD12*High Demogorgon
11:11.20AdmiralPandamashing keyboard style is in full effect here XD
11:11.22Monet_Mortirg - Lul I suck with a pen.
11:11.25R17i.imgur.com/RcOAbAt.png NOT SALMON
11:11.28GD12hur
11:11.30OluapWorkerThat's how I work all the time
11:11.37R17grr where is Impy
11:11.43GD12Monet : Dat was a marker hur
11:11.57Monet_Still a type of pen.
11:11.58AdmiralPandaSomehow I just knew that those words were keyboard mashing
11:12.02GD12hur
11:12.12OluapWorkerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/5/52/Ermitant.png I remade the Ermitant. I think I made them too skinny
11:12.18GD12Only naming convention i worked out is that female names end in a vowel
11:12.23GD12male names end it consonants
11:12.27GD12Abaddon = Male
11:12.30GD12Medusa = Female
11:12.38AdmiralPandathose ears
11:12.45AdmiralPandathey are majestig
11:12.49AdmiralPandamajestic*
11:12.50OluapWorkerCan't get rid of the ears
11:12.54OluapWorkerdey characteristic
11:12.54GD12^^
11:12.55Monet_I managed to make syntax out of Draconis names.
11:13.05AdmiralPandaI was complimenting them
11:13.22AdmiralPandabut yeah, his body so tiny compared to his head, might want to consider beefing them up next time
11:13.40OluapWorkerThey walk around dragging their heads
11:13.47AdmiralPandalel
11:14.16OluapWorkerAnd I did make a naming convention for the Kormacvar. Male names always end in -us, female names always end in -is
11:14.20FlashfireGD12: You're going to end up with a lot of identical names
11:14.38AdmiralPandaFlashfire: Fordanta have probably the hardest 'normal' language to understand in the wikiverse- their 'words' are actually strings of concepts. To a Fordanta, they end up with perfect descriptions of the subject. To others, it sounds like gibberish
11:14.48AdmiralPandaalso, the words are highly subjective
11:15.04GD12Flashfire : Not really hur
11:15.15Monet_-ssa, -sia -ix, -as are common female endings, -on, -or, -us, -el are common male endings.
11:15.25OluapWorkerAlso, http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/8/8b/DistantPlanet07.png yellow doods
11:15.37FlashfireThings ending in -a are usually male
11:15.46GD12Wolframicht Stahl and Mortrig Malevon aint identical
11:15.48Flashfire*female
11:16.03FlashfireI didn't mean your personal characters
11:16.06GD12Flashfire : Based off russian last names
11:16.15FlashfireI meant the generic NPCs that actually live on your planets
11:16.29GD12Dominatus ain't generic NPCs
11:16.38GD12gneerally one per planet hu
11:16.50GD12you are more likely to run into an overseer
11:17.00Monet_GD12: he means the masses of unseen people.
11:17.04Flashfirewait what
11:17.06Flashfireyeah
11:17.10Flashfirejust random citizens
11:17.15OluapWorkerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/7/7f/DistantPlanet08.png and the next buss
11:17.20Monet_Or people who would have a name but get eneric titles like "soldier".
11:17.29Monet_generic*
11:17.36Flashfire^
11:17.38FlashfireThat too
11:17.44GD12Unnamed characters are generally mooks hur
11:17.56OluapWorkerBob the Dominatus
11:18.00GD12aye
11:18.05GD12Bobinatus
11:18.14Flashfiregeneric people that just fuck around
11:18.22Monet_Hachi - Hi there | Mosen - Woah you look like a cool alien!
11:18.30OluapWorkerhur
11:18.36GD12Flashfire : Generally i make names up on the spot
11:18.46FlashfireI have a generator for that yeah
11:18.49OluapWorkerSo yeah, the group's gonna find a huge Mosen nest
11:18.53GD12i dunz have generator hur
11:19.03FlashfireBut you won't make a name for every tom dick and nebulon that passes by
11:19.06AdmiralPandaSe'Ka'Ra'Ma'To'Res, Ma'For'Dan'Ta. Bre'Dan'K'Wa'Va'Sor'Ma. And that's how Fordanta speak
11:19.12GD12i dunz get that idiom
11:19.14OluapWorkerAll translates to Bob
11:19.51Monet_AdmiralPanda: Reminds meo f the Judoon.
11:19.52GD12assuming it means "for every dood", it takes generally 5 minutes in order to produce a dominatus sounding name
11:19.56AdmiralPandaTranslation: "Walk your path, my brother/sister. May the ancients watch over you, as your spirit finds its home."
11:20.11Flashfirethat's what it means
11:20.20FlashfireI'm talking about this:
11:20.26AdmiralPandaWhat's funny, is I can change one word in that, and suddenly it's a mortal insult
11:20.41GD12Bob you Bob you just Bobbed a Bob
11:20.45GD12Bob : Bob that Back Bob
11:20.48FlashfireIf you and a group of characters are just walking down the street, people will be passing you
11:21.06AdmiralPandaReplace Dan with De, and suddenly I want your dreams to be haunted by demons, and your life to be a living hell
11:21.11Flashfirethere's no point in making names for each person on your planet
11:21.20Flashfirelike literally
11:21.24Flashfiremillions of fuckers
11:21.27Flashfireno-names
11:21.32GD12Flashfire : Generally becuase there are only several Dominatus on a planet at most
11:21.34OluapWorkerCorruptus - ey they're talkin about us
11:21.43FlashfireLink me to dominatus pls
11:21.50Monet_Hence why I have two Terellas and two Uriels :P
11:22.01GD12here you go http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny
11:22.12OluapWorkerWait, two Terellas?
11:22.22GD12Warning : Some of it is outdated data
11:22.25AdmiralPandaEvery so often Hel' swears in Fordan. I like to remind people he's actually talking through a translator
11:22.30AdmiralPandaalso it's funny
11:22.50FlashfireWhat are overseers
11:22.56FlashfireAnd why are there so many
11:23.08Monet_OluapWorker: Terella Vex (who is an adminsitrator in the DI's Boeralis Colonies) and Terella Dacia (who is an ITN admiral).
11:23.19GD12to "why are there so many" the answer is "cuz i felt laik it"
11:23.25GD12if you are asking for types
11:23.27OluapWorkerOh
11:23.28Monet_No wait, I think Terella Vex is an executive admiral.
11:23.33OluapWorkerI wasn't aware of Vex
11:23.35GD12or are you ask ing for total number
11:23.38OluapWorkerOnly of Dacia
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11:23.50Monet_Vex is more of an armchair admiral.
11:23.54ImpyDroidHi
11:24.04ImpyDroidWho?
11:24.10Monet_Terella Vex.
11:24.11FlashfireI mean
11:24.14FlashfireWhat does an overseer do
11:24.19Flashfirehe sounds like a supervisor
11:24.40GD12hmm hard to explain
11:24.42GD12give me a sec
11:24.46Monet_Vex is effectively in charge of all ITN fleets in Borealis mainly because the DI only has one administrative sector.
11:25.08ImpyDroidSo he's a DI Venoriel
11:25.27Monet_Yeah.
11:25.30GD12Overseers are generally in command of Tyranny ground forces and are also quite fearsome supersoldiers, however they defer to the Dominatus.
11:25.55OluapWorkerDomino's got tiny numbers so they made overseers to fight for them
11:26.02GD12pretty much yeah
11:26.11OluapWorkerand pathogis is best overseer
11:26.14Monet_But that's because the DI's Borealis territory is somewhat small. in the Milky Way there may be 3 or 4 executive admirals.
11:26.18GD12you can't be everywhere at once with such a small population and shit birth rate
11:26.28GD12Pathogis - yesssss
11:26.37FlashfireYou appear to have a shit-ton of people that I do not want to piss off
11:26.38OluapWorkerThe DI is free to expand on Borealis
11:26.48FlashfireI'll be over here with my 20 systems mining thank you
11:26.50OluapWorkereven more now that the PCA controls most of the Arm
11:27.04GD12Flashfire - The Plot of AD is the rest of the Gig attaacking the Dominatus basicall
11:27.06Monet_Actually wait I forgot they do have tow sectors in Borealis.
11:27.09ImpyDroidDominos
11:27.21AdmiralPandahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_dW11aeofU This is me talking normally. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmMZIsUE0Lw That is also me talking. Not my best Hel' impression
11:27.24GD12hence Attero Dominatus = Fall of Tyranny in bad grammar latin
11:27.35Monet_One in the Zolei sector and one in the Otzello sector.
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11:27.51GD12Domiantus = Dominos= Dommies
11:27.59GD12as i was saying
11:28.00ImpyDroidOr doma
11:28.00GD12[19:27] <GD12> hence Attero Dominatus = Fall of Tyranny in bad grammar latin
11:28.01ImpyDroidDoms
11:28.05GD12Doms
11:28.06FlashfireSic Semper Tyrannis
11:28.11GD12aye
11:28.15OluapWorkerDon Minatus
11:28.15GD12their leader is called the Tyrant
11:28.26AdmiralPandaheh, I completely forgot I did those voice samples. I might do another some time
11:28.31GD12Demisnotus
11:28.50OluapWorkerThat sounds like a hillbilly Dominatus
11:28.55GD12aye
11:29.06ImpyDroidGuys. Remember the Fendrassi?
11:29.16FlashfireI need to make a bipedal race
11:29.28FlashfireBecause as of current my race cannot hold guns.
11:29.28GD12bbl more nom
11:29.30FlashfireAnd we must gun
11:29.42GD12Holding guns is important
11:29.51GD12and when collabing with users who do 40k, swords as well
11:30.05ImpyDroidCHAINSWORDS
11:30.06Monet_"Terum kil primar das richtar el'elumitan sodarum tel pa' physicarum; Tor cara memramus" >> High Dracid everyone.
11:30.34Monet_dask*
11:31.03OluapWorkermemramus
11:31.05OluapWorkermerasmus
11:31.05ImpyDroidMonet_: Huh
11:31.09OluapWorkerUriel is actually this guy http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/8/8c/Merasmus.png
11:31.25Monet_pal'physicarum*
11:31.32ImpyDroidI actually have a small Radessic dictionary
11:31.33Monet_Translation is "There is only one true and righteous path to immortality; to be remembered"
11:31.52ImpyDroidIovera - nu
11:32.05FlashfireI don't understand the point of 40k chainswords
11:32.14AdmiralPandafor when you run out of bullets
11:32.21FlashfireWouldn't you need to hold the thing at two separate points for it to actually cut through?
11:32.29ImpyDroidRule of cool
11:32.31FlashfireEither that or swing it through with Space Marine force?
11:32.52AdmiralPandaMost of the time they are holding it at two points unless they're a space marine
11:32.54Monet_Space Marine armour autocompensates balance.
11:33.14Monet_It's the reasons boltguns can stil lfire properly without a stock.
11:33.30AdmiralPandaand besides, this is a diamond-nanosteel edge we're talking about, so they cut through basically everything short of power armour
11:33.32FlashfireAn actual chainsaw with a handle would cut better it seems
11:33.40FlashfireOh wait what
11:33.45AdmiralPandaand even then they'll rip through power armour given half a chance
11:33.50FlashfireI thought they were just aluminum or something
11:33.54AdmiralPandalolnope
11:34.07Monet_Aluminium armour...what?
11:34.26AdmiralPandaMonet_: he was talking about the chainsword's teeth
11:34.29ImpyDroidAdamantium
11:34.33Monet_Oh right.
11:34.34FlashfireTake away combat knives, replace them with gigantic chainsaw swords that apparently run on an infinite power source
11:35.00Monet_Flashfire: tbf there's probably a battery in the blade.
11:35.03AdmiralPandaEh, doesn't take much of a battery to run a chainsaw for ages
11:35.09Monet_the handle*
11:35.41Flashfiremmkay nevermind
11:35.46AdmiralPandaSpace Marines are rarely in the field long enough for that to actually become a concern though
11:35.57FlashfireThe teeth are only along one edge of the blade
11:36.12FlashfireWhy, do they die or just kick everything's ass?
11:36.20AdmiralPandathey just kill everything quickly
11:36.47AdmiralPandasure a bunch of them die, but you're typically talking a trade of one Marine for a hundred or so of everything that isn't' another marine
11:37.11Flashfiresend in imperial guard as a joke
11:37.29FlashfireWatch them literally get cut down by bullets and chain choppas
11:37.30AdmiralPandathe IG are actually incredibly effective, it's just that everyone else is better
11:37.59Monet_IG are very good when paired with vehicles.
11:38.15AdmiralPandaWhat you don't see in the tabletop wargame is that we're talking billions of soldiers sent to a single battlefield, with thousands upon thousands of tanks
11:38.27AdmiralPandaand they're all actually mostly following the plan
11:38.47FlashfireEarth is a gigantic hiveworld where billions of people live in the same buildings
11:39.01FlashfireSend them to the Slaughter.
11:39.16AdmiralPandaThere's actually one canon instance of an IG force outnumbered severely by Tau, and still managed to fight the Tau down to the point that they had to close into melee to actually do anything useful
11:39.31FlashfireHold on reloading
11:39.33Monet_Earth is one recruiting world, but also most of Earth's population in 40K work in admin.
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11:40.00Monet_Earth is one recruiting world, but also most of Earth's population in 40K work in admin.
11:40.22FlashfireThere's a few space marine homeworlds
11:40.33OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Distant_Planet#Giant_Wiggly_Thief Uriel wants to steal Hachi from Sarec
11:40.44FlashfireWhere they recruit purely the best Australians to live until they die
11:40.52AdmiralPandabasically
11:41.06Monet_Space marine homeworlds are exempt from the Imperial Tithe ssytem.
11:41.10AdmiralPandaI still maintain that Catachan was founded by Australians
11:41.16Monet_They're technically independant.
11:41.58FlashfireI love how the Humans still praise the poisoned ground the God-Emperor walks on
11:42.29ImpyDroidAdmiralPanda: Aye
11:42.49ImpyDroidValhalla > Catachan
11:43.18AdmiralPandaI dunno
11:43.32AdmiralPandaCadia was founded by the British
11:43.37AdmiralPandathose guys are hardasses
11:43.46AdmiralPandaa different kind of hardass, but hardass nontheless
11:43.56OluapWorkerEveryone is british in 40k silly
11:43.59Monet_There is no finter lot who know how to hold the line when things get sticky.
11:44.03Monet_finer*
11:44.13Monet_Flashfire: How so?
11:44.34FlashfireI remember a while ago that humans make pilgrimage to Earth, and kiss the ground
11:44.48FlashfireSince Earth is a hive world all the enviromental aspects are terribly poisoned
11:45.10FlashfireSpace Marines sound more australian imo
11:45.22Monet_Earth has kinda become like Jereuselum.
11:45.23FlashfireInquisition is high-class brits however
11:45.24AdmiralPandaHur, Chenkov is Valhallan
11:45.32FlashfireI compared it to mecca
11:45.36Flashfirebut whatever
11:46.03AdmiralPandaThe Astronomican is mecca. it's also drawing in the Tyranids
11:46.08Monet_Well is it realyl such a craz idea considering it's where their version of God lives?
11:46.27FlashfireWell the ground will probably kill them
11:46.54GD12bak
11:47.00ImpyDroidAdmiralPanda: Nah, it is Jerusalem
11:47.10ImpyDroidThe Imperium is Christian
11:47.23ImpyDroidThe Tyranids are Muslims
11:47.26ImpyDroidOr vice versa
11:47.27AdmiralPandaImp: Mecca, cus all of Humanity needs to look to it to figure out where the fuck they're going
11:47.35ImpyDroidEither way, both want it
11:47.45AdmiralPandaThe tyranids are hungry
11:48.00GD12aye
11:48.04GD12omnomnom
11:48.11Monet_There are families who spend generations on a pilgramige to earth. I don't think they really care how shitty it all looks.
11:48.36ImpyDroidBesides it doesn't
11:48.42AdmiralPandabtw, now with Uriel wanting to steal Hachi away, Hachi's in a three-way relationship
11:48.44GD12Holy Terra hur
11:48.54GD12Succubus - u and me sechs nao
11:49.00FlashfireOrginal legions 2 and 11 are missing
11:49.26AdmiralPandaHe's bro's with Sarec, trying to get into Sor's pants, and now Uriel is trying to buni-nap him
11:49.28GD12in case you haven't guessed the sm legions were a large inspiration for dem overseers
11:49.40FlashfireYeah I guessed that
11:49.41Monet_Back when a person's pilgrimage started Terra was probably percieved as some holy world of golden spires or something. You'd kinda be spitting on your great great grandfather's memory if you thought "fuk this why did we even come here?"
11:49.51GD12hur
11:49.54FlashfireThat's why I'm on Lexicanum now
11:49.54AdmiralPandanext thing you know he's going to marry Koluap
11:50.21Flashfire"Welcome to Terra, praise the god emperor, here's your complementary enviro-suit."
11:50.39Monet_Flashfire: That would be considered luxury.
11:50.45GD12hur
11:50.53FlashfireWell
11:50.57Flashfire"Here's a dampened rag"
11:50.58Flashfirebetter?
11:51.04AdmiralPandaTerra ain't exactly toxic last time I checked, wouldn't want to live there though
11:51.06GD12still a luxury
11:51.09AdmiralPandaI'd rather live on Macragge
11:51.14GD12more like "heres your faith in the emprah"
11:51.25GD12i'd rather not live in 40k =P
11:51.30AdmiralPandaCheap food, good housing, and a Space Marine chapter planet. Best world
11:51.44GD12Till the Nids come
11:52.01AdmiralPandaThe smurfs got the whole population off-world before the invasion hit
11:52.07AdmiralPandaso yeah, we're good
11:52.07FlashfireIt's got a ton of pollution
11:52.19Flashfireand
11:52.19GD12hur
11:52.31Flashfirepollution is kind of toxic
11:52.41AdmiralPandanot toxic enough to murder everyone though
11:53.14Monet_Thing is any invasion on Terra and the entire Imperium has a good chance of being fucked.
11:53.16FlashfireNot immediately but over time
11:53.26FlashfireThat's why people in Asia wear breath masks all the time.
11:53.42GD12Flashfire : Being an asian i can tell you thats not the case
11:53.49AdmiralPandaI'd just love to see the Golden Throne fail and demons spill out all over the place
11:53.57OluapWorkernein
11:53.59OluapWorkerorks
11:54.03FlashfireWell, not all the time, but in Beijing the pollution is terrible
11:54.05OluapWorkerSend Orks to Terra for a stompin'
11:54.12AdmiralPandaOluap: The Golden Throne is actually a portal to the warp
11:54.15GD12I've gone to Beijing as an exchange student to learn Chinese
11:54.16AdmiralPandaso deemuns
11:54.21GD12I didn't need a breathmask
11:54.25FlashfireOrks come to terra and immediately get cut up with bolters
11:54.26GD12nor did i see people with breath masks
11:54.39GD12both in summer and winter
11:54.50Flashfirehttp://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/01/500000-breathing-masks-sold-in-china-in-two-days/
11:54.56OluapWorkerSo we send Orks through the throne so they get sent to the Warp and meet Gork and Mork
11:55.05OluapWorkerand they they stomp all the deemuns together
11:55.21AdmiralPandaKhorne - More blood means more bloodletters. Fighting me doesn't work bro
11:55.38GD12Then again my city has tons of air pollution
11:55.42GD12so im pretty used to it
11:55.56FlashfireYou don't absolutely need a breath mask
11:56.03Flashfirebut it's probably best to get one
11:56.05Monet_Empra wanted a connection to the Webway, the project was half-finished and required a fuckton of psychic energy just to keep the place safe. When the Horus Heresy came around they had to abandon it.
11:56.06OluapWorkerFight Khorne with pillows
11:56.09GD12probably true
11:56.19GD12iirc DI raped IMperium in non canon arpee
11:56.23GD12*crossover
11:56.34FlashfireWhy does the imperial palace take up half the planet
11:56.36AdmiralPandathen Khorne stab you and get more blood
11:56.45OluapWorkerSilly you can't stab with a pillow
11:56.46GD12Flashfire : Rule of Cool
11:56.53Monet_Flashfire: because the Imperium LOVES to overcompensate.
11:57.00AdmiralPandaKhorne stab you with his axe, cus he's cool like that
11:57.08FlashfireNot even allah is that well-protected
11:57.38AdmiralPandaAllah isn't actually all that well protected compared to other important sites :/
11:57.50OluapWorkerits a pillow fight dam u
11:57.58AdmiralPandaKhorne - Nein, I fight with axe
11:57.59FlashfireThey have guards at mecca
11:57.59Monet_Allah isn't a rotting-corpse-of-a-man who's lignering existence is waht is keeping an entire galaxy getting eaten by demons.
11:58.04OluapWorkeraxe made of pillows
11:58.10FlashfireMecca's been invaded a few times
11:58.12FlashfireWait
11:58.16FlashfireGod-emperor is dead?
11:58.22AdmiralPandayeah basically
11:58.27GD12hes on life support
11:58.33GD12and as of m41 that life support is failing
11:58.34Flashfirelol
11:58.34AdmiralPandaonly sustained by killing thousands of psykers every day
11:58.38FlashfireCan he even speak
11:58.39GD12and admech too dum to fix
11:58.41GD12nu
11:58.41AdmiralPandanope
11:58.55AdmiralPandaand his lords regent got his message completely wrong
11:59.02GD12aye
11:59.06GD12dey can no read da tarot
11:59.10Monet_he's basically halfway between a corpse and a vegetable.
11:59.13AdmiralPandaif they were doing the right thing, all of humanity would be psykers by now and the demons could be kersploded
11:59.23AdmiralPandaalso they'd be bro's with the Eldar
11:59.54Monet_The Imperium kinda needs his massive psychic power for Warp Travel to not be impossible.
12:00.00FlashfireSo
12:00.01GD12aye
12:00.07GD12da astronomican
12:00.09FlashfireThey just slaughter hundred of Psykers every day?
12:00.16AdmiralPandamore like suck their souls out
12:00.19Monet_Not simply kill.
12:00.31FlashfireAre they human?
12:00.34OluapWorkerEmperor - ffs stop being stupid fix the imperium             Lords - EMPEROR TOLD US WE GET FREE COFFEE BREAKS EVERY 3 HOURS
12:00.35GD12aye
12:00.35AdmiralPandayep
12:00.43GD12like industrial scale vampirism
12:00.53Flashfireemperor probably just wants to die
12:01.00FlashfireAnyhow gtg
12:01.02Flashfirewill be back later
12:01.07OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Distant_Planet#Giant_Wiggly_Thief added more
12:01.08FlashfirePraise the god-emperor
12:01.15OluapWorkerNeeds Xho and Hachi so we can finish this
12:01.17AdmiralPandano buni make sad panda
12:01.27Monet_Every day these barges arive in orbit over Terra carrying millions of psychers who get hooked up to the paranormal equivilent of an industrial-scale milking machine and their souls are sucked out and fed to the Emperor.
12:01.37GD12dem black ships
12:01.43AdmiralPandabtw, has anything even happened with TM lately?
12:02.00OluapWorkerIt's still going
12:02.05OluapWorkerbut Xho's too lazy to code up the rps
12:02.14AdmiralPandalul
12:02.24AdmiralPandagud 4 me, cus still gotta do whole Kaios showing up thing
12:02.38AdmiralPandaand then try to actually make it to arpee times
12:02.42GD12mai math paper is kinda fundum
12:02.44AdmiralPanda~seen Xho
12:02.48infobotxho <0542deae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.66.222.174> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 15h 53m 7s ago, saying: '~seen Wormy'.
12:02.48Monet_In essence the Empeor's only real role is to direct all that psychic energy into one of the biggest lightbulbs the galaxy has ever seen.
12:02.54OluapWorkerlatest rp had a Shka'Tun join the team
12:03.06OluapWorkerThat was the only really major point
12:03.14GD12on one hand its putting a stop to ad in addition to my exams, but it revelas that a*b =/= b*a
12:03.16AdmiralPandak
12:03.26ImpyDroidOluapWorker: In TM?
12:03.31OluapWorkerYes
12:03.45Monet_Without that light there is literally NO point of reference within the warp.
12:03.55AdmiralPandaI wonder who would be best to channel Kaios' casual dickery in my absence?
12:04.11GD12Me?
12:04.17GD12Hachi?
12:04.28GD12Xho?
12:04.37GD12Ghelae?
12:04.56Monet_Travelling through the warp without the Astronomican is like sailing across open oceon with no stars, no clouds, no sun, no moon and no working compass.
12:04.57AdmiralPandaI did consider Hachi and Xho
12:05.02AdmiralPandaGhelae is too nice to channel the dickery
12:05.22AdmiralPandaMonet_: You forgot to mention that sometimes the wind pushes you back /through time/
12:05.43AdmiralPandaOne Ork invasion fleet arrived at its homeworld an hour before it left
12:06.27Monet_Oh yeah. And also without the right psychic on board your ship is going to be swarmed with soul-eating demons in minutes who will tear you apart so viciously it would make HP LOvecraft wake up screaming.
12:06.41GD12hur
12:06.48ImpyDroidAdmiralPanda: I can
12:06.49ImpyDroidI have Lemmo who is a similar character
12:06.52AdmiralPandaactually it's the Gellar fields that stop that from happening, the psyker just tells you where to go
12:07.01AdmiralPandaThat's a good point Imp
12:07.08GD12I can't cuz Dominatus version of dickery ain't casual
12:07.19Monet_Doesn't the Gelalr field need a psyker?
12:07.22Monet_Gellar*
12:07.29GD12forgot actually
12:07.57AdmiralPandaI don't think so, cus the Gellar field was referenced on a ship that had no psykers on board
12:10.48GD12sm captain vs draconis marines was entertaining\
12:12.32Monet_Since A Draconis is often bigger than a space marine.
12:12.46GD12aye
12:13.19Monet_They can be anywhere between 9ft to 11' 8".
12:14.36AdmiralPandaanyway, I'm off
12:30.22Monet_BTW Oluap I might not be able to be here much on Saturday.
12:30.45Monet_I'm planning on a daytrip for college stuff.
12:31.01OluapWorkerI see
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12:38.00Monet_Suddenly feel liek making Jetstream Sam fanart.
12:38.36OluapWorkerAfter we are done with the current section, we'll be halfway through Distant P
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13:09.19ImpyDroidOluapWorker: How intelligent are the Levenis exactly
13:09.44OluapWorkerAbout as smart as a chimpanzee i'd say
13:10.27ImpyDroidHm I see
13:10.35ImpyDroidThe Divinarium could uplift some of them
13:10.46OluapWorkerThey could yeah
13:18.41Monet_semihereI wonder what Ark thinks of Uriel.
13:19.30OluapWorkerArk is impressed how Uriel stood against god-like beings
13:19.32Monet_semihereIIRC the two of them were in the final battles for Regnatus' invasion and the Borealis War itself.
13:20.27OluapWorkerArk also likes him for being a leader who isn't afraid to fight at the front lines
13:21.02Monet_semihereAdd Uriel to Ark's relations. I'll do the same.
13:21.10OluapWorkernevur
13:21.11OluapWorkerrite
13:21.47Monet_semihereOh wait he's already on Uriel's relations section XD
13:22.14OluapWorkerhur
13:22.20OluapWorkerI added Uriel to Ark's allies
13:22.34OluapWorkeryou can add a quote then :v
13:23.41ImpyDroidI need to make the Divinarium do more stuff
13:24.01Monet_semihereOluapWorker: Seems fair.
13:24.13OluapWorkerDivinarium and Indocs need to do stuff together
13:26.27OluapWorkerand I added an Ark quote on Uriel while we're at this
13:27.21ImpyDroidLemmo can't really understand Uriel
13:27.30ImpyDroid*really can't
13:28.12ImpyDroidAnd why does he fight on the frontlines and go to distant worlds while being an emperor
13:28.41Monet_semihereOluapWorker: Quoted.
13:28.59Monet_semihereImpyDrid: Because he learned from a young age not to sit inside the palace all day.
13:29.44OluapWorkerWhat are  these precursors Uriel is talking about? The Tertamians?
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13:30.13Monet_semihereYeah.
13:30.23GD12hi
13:30.29Monet_semihereThe Tertamian ALliance left quite a few ruins in Segmentum Draco.
13:30.30OluapWorkerArk - hur tertamians were my bros
13:31.05Monet_semihereSome planets like Vencortium are popular tourist desinations becasue of this.
13:31.50OluapWorkerJudging by the relation sections the Kormacvar might have also known about the Rades
13:31.58ImpyDroidAh yes
13:32.17OluapWorkerArk meets Iovera, "woah the Rades are a lot taller now"
13:32.54Monet_semihereIts probably easier to say that Uriel's mention of "The Precursors" refers to the key powers of 5 billion bc.
13:35.06Monet_semihereLooking through Uriel's quotes there is only one person who doesn't take note of Uriel's reputation or capability.
13:35.16GD12who?
13:35.33Monet_semihereHis name begins with a "K".
13:35.41OluapWorkerhur
13:35.51GD12i shoulda guessed
13:36.04OluapWorkerKoluap of course
13:36.11GD12“He always angers me with his foul words! He should be slain and be replaced with a more democratic leader!” - Emperor Kies in 409 KRE
13:36.11Monet_semihereAlthough then again Volim called out for his blood too.
13:36.13GD12hur
13:36.15OluapWorkerKoluap - Uriels dis...dragon guy with blings and stoof
13:36.25GD12Kies should meet a race of people whos boss is called Tyrant
13:36.40OluapWorkerYeah but Volim hates Uriel for more valid reasons than Kies
13:36.46GD12Abaddon's Ghost - More democratic you say
13:36.57Monet_semihereKies - He no democratic. BOOOH!
13:37.12OluapWorkerYeah he humps Anteddy's leg
13:37.25OluapWorkerYet*
13:37.36Monet_semihereCome to think of it, Kies could one day meet Tyrant since he's part of the Empire..
13:37.42GD12true
13:37.57OluapWorkerTyrant - ur ded meet dood
13:37.58GD12If there is an afterlife Abaddon must be throwing up at what Medusa is doing
13:37.59Monet_semihereImpy Oluap make dat canon!
13:38.09OluapWorkerhur
13:38.19GD12Abaddon's Ghost - y u do dis, i no teach you do dat
13:38.50OluapWorkerAbaddon's Ghost - medusa wtf are you doing trying to seduce crispy u ugly bitch that would never work are you serious
13:38.55GD12aye
13:39.07ImpyDroidMonet_semihere: Yeqh I can
13:39.09GD12Abaddon's Ghost - stahp whoring around with zazane and focus on ya empire
13:39.10ImpyDroidcan
13:39.46OluapWorkerTyrant has no political influence on the CyraEmp though, as far as I know
13:39.50OluapWorkerOnly military
13:40.27ImpyDroidWhat about his own species?
13:40.28Monet_semihereHe does help enforce the Emperor's will.
13:40.45OluapWorkerI'd imagine Anteddy is seen as the ruler of the Tiranozark now
13:41.21OluapWorkerThey're a high influence species so they don't exactly mind, and Tyrant can go around killing people all he wishes too
13:41.45Monet_semihereI think Kies humped Anteddy's leg because he fell for the illusion that Anteddy was chosen by the people.
13:41.50OluapWorkerCyrannian would know the answer to this more than me
13:42.10ImpyDroidMonet_semihere: Aye, he kinda was
13:42.58MonetAnd perhaps didn't realise that there is a good deal of democracy in the Imperium.
13:43.03MonetSort-of.
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13:43.15OluapWorkerA lot more than in the CyraEmp for sure
13:43.38OluapWorkerIt's contantly stated the Imperial senate has only decreased in power over time
13:43.50GD12Monet : New quotey
13:43.51GD12“A ruler that my daughter should respect and learn from. He is one to be admired, not one to be the object of the petty games of a child.” - Now Deceased Tyrant Abaddon Heimdall
13:44.19OluapWorkerAbaddon - medusa if i were alive i sear i would ground u
13:44.22Monet"Even bad guys admire him".
13:44.33GD12aye
13:44.40GD12Abaddon - Go bak to ya room
13:44.43TheBuilderHello
13:45.02MonetSectors get to choose the grand houses that rule over them and vassal empires still have internal autonomy. They can pick their own leaders and representetives but above the level of their own domain is when the Imperium takes more control.
13:45.24Jepardipeep
13:46.26GD12Assuming their is Sw afterlife i would like to see Medusa and Abaddon interface.
13:46.35MonetSo in theory if the Kraw Empire was under DI control it wouldn't affect elections unless some draconid noble offered to bankroll a candidate.
13:46.55GD12Abaddon - I work so hard to build dis, wot u doin
13:46.56OluapWorkerKraw - dey want to rule over us baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw
13:47.43MonetBut then again that could be the same as some US senator getting bankrolled by some influenrtial japanese bsuinessman.
13:47.50GD12hur
13:49.35GD12Assuming it is possible to have dead people in SW talk with alive people i'd like to see Abaddon bitch and moan for a while.
13:49.38MonetAlso here's an idea: The House figurehead in offices and in the senate is not officially chosen until the ballots are being counted.
13:50.07MonetSo there's no "charismatic leader" to build hype for their party during elections.
13:50.43OluapWorkerThere was a section in the Borealis War where Ark spoke to his dead wife and son
13:50.44MonetThat guy is chosen by the house on a meritocratic system.
13:51.08GD12i should have medusa do something like that if only to get raged at by abaddon
13:51.23OluapWorkerWell he did it with the help of essence
13:51.28OluapWorkerso idunno how you'll do that hur
13:51.34GD12hur
13:51.48GD12i should mention that medusas rule means tyrannys advancement, production and pretty much everything is all down.
13:52.29OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Territories#Borealis you should update this :v
13:52.30GD12I don't even think Abaddon was in support of the entire Deep Core thing, but Medusa as head of Andromeda Tyranny went through with it
13:52.49MonetAbaddon - Your skill in running an empire is bad and you should feel bad.
13:52.59GD12Pissing off major powers wasn't part of the agenda
13:53.00OluapWorkerAbaddon - wat no that's a stopid idea               Medusa - SEND IN EVERYONE
13:53.03GD12aye true
13:53.18GD12Abaddon - Medusa stahp
13:54.06GD12New additons are this
13:54.30OluapWorkerAlfabusium - girl i'm not dronin u, ur too dum for the hivemind to endure
13:54.35GD12While Abaddon gave the go ahead for the Mark 2 program, Medusa gave the go ahead for the extra features of the Tiamat that dun't work
13:54.40GD12hur
13:55.18GD12Abaddon - Did i teach you nothing?!
13:55.42MonetMedusa - Poot dis feature in sheep I dun care if it's a shit idea!
13:56.01OluapWorkerMedusa incremented the Tiamat by putting cat stickers on its wall
13:56.04GD12The flipside of this is that Abaddon never really had enough time to raise Medusa
13:56.09GD12aye
13:56.29GD12He was too busy running the Tyranny and thus couldn't really train his heir
13:56.34OluapWorkerDominatus - y are there pictures of kittens all over the ship         Medusa - EVERYTHING IS BETTER WITH KITTENS
13:56.40OluapWorkerAnd then Zillum eats them all
13:56.47GD12hur
13:57.27GD12Next section i'll do when my brainjuice is not absorbed by school is Dominatus talking about Medusa's management of the Tyranny.
13:57.50OluapWorkerDominatus 1 - lol suks     Dominatus 2 - ye
13:57.55GD12aye
13:58.01OluapWorkerGotta move that Borealis plot forward
13:58.05GD12aye
13:58.09GD12again, brainjuice needed
13:58.16GD12which my schoolpapers consume
13:58.32GD12my exams will be over in exactly a month though, and i have break a month after that
13:58.39GD12so im planing major ad spearhead on all fronts
13:58.50OluapWorkergud
13:59.20GD12nighty
13:59.26MonetAlfabusium's comment makes me wonder if Uriel is a poential target of his.
14:00.32OluapWorkerCurrently the Junction has no interest on the DI
14:00.47MonetReally?
14:01.04OluapWorkerNo interest as in "we don't wanna assimilate them at the moment"
14:01.43OluapWorkerThough they showed interest on Drakon if you can recall that
14:02.43MonetYeah, I figured their interest in the DI dropped when they learned that despite Drakon once interacting with them, none of them had any idea waht he really was.
14:03.36OluapWorkerSilver Death - dum u dun got any useful info im outta here
14:04.14OluapWorkerThe Junction connects the name to a higher entity but they cannot tell which one
14:04.42OluapWorkerThis is pretty much the reason they allied with the CyraEmp, because they could see through Anteddy's disguise
14:05.36MonetJunction - Yeah yeah we don't care about your pretty little empire we'r eolny interested in your leader.
14:05.53OluapWorkerPretty much
14:05.55MonetAlso I added a few more colonies. I also added to the number of province colonies because the Draconis encouraged them to expand.
14:06.29OluapWorkerThe alliance was more to decrease the chances of Anteddy acting against the Junction
14:06.36OluapWorkerThey don't really like him at all
14:07.41MonetDraconis are pretty lax when it comes to their provinces expanding. Mainly because it cuts down heavily on admin to let the locals expand at their own pace with the only official requirements being to keep their colony records up to date.
14:09.51OluapWorkerBy the way, if you want to make up new Borealis protectorate species for the DI, feel free. I kinda need help populating all the empty sectors
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14:20.30MonetOluapWorker: I can do that. Been meaning to write up on one protectorate species for a whiel now.
14:20.39OluapWorkeryey
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15:08.45MecharicHi Xho
15:11.45XhoAfternoon
15:11.52XhoAnd the IRC is dead once again
15:13.41Mecharic:9
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15:26.04XhoOluapAway: Shu'trokermave    wat dis
15:26.12OfficerJackalDamn, huge fertilizer plant explosion in Texas.
15:26.43XhoI saw that
15:26.52XhoThat explosion was huge
15:30.14OfficerJackalAt least it was not as bad as the Texas City Disaster, nearly 600 people died in that one - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_disaster
15:31.40OluapWorkerXho: Dark Five
15:31.52Xhoi c
15:32.05Xho2300 tons of ammonium nitrate
15:32.14XhoSurprised the world didn't get pushed out of orbit
15:32.31OluapWorkerThe world is much fatter than it looks
15:32.33OluapWorkerfat planet
15:32.48OluapWorkerCheck your YouTube PMs u
15:34.33Xhohooby
15:34.36Xhodis gud
15:34.46Xhoentertrain me moar
15:35.14XhoBut that description startled me slightly
15:35.38OluapWorkerhur
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15:46.21OluapWorkeru
15:58.43Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kicath_Empire/Kicathian_Language/Dictionary I updated the dictionary last night
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16:00.02OluapWorkerdumba
16:00.44LawfulInsaney my tf2 never work
16:01.17Technobliteratorhii
16:01.24Technobliteratorya dad
16:02.08Hachi_Kicath dictionary is definitely inspired by the Japanese language by the looks of things
16:02.13XhoIt eezh
16:02.21XhoAlthough i'm yet to add more vowels
16:02.35Hachi_It's like a mix between Japanese and Indian
16:02.40XhoIf i'm right Kicathian should have around 15 vowels
16:07.54Hachi_I'm hoping to get the new "Killer is Dead" game for the Xbox once it is released
16:08.08Hachi_It's made by the company that made No More Heroes
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16:09.30LawfulInsaneHi
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16:10.04Xhoa, i, o, e, u, á, í, ó, é, ú, ā, ī, ō, ē, ū, ǎ and ø are the Kicathian vowels
16:10.16Xho17 then
16:12.03LawfulInsaneMt Fløyen. (Just saying a random Norway mountain)
16:12.20Hachi_How do you even pronounce half of those
16:13.43XhoThe standard written ones are like short vowels in English
16:14.05XhoThe accented ones are like long vowles in English
16:14.24LawfulInsaneø?
16:14.36XhoThe ones with the lines are heavily accented vowels
16:14.45LawfulInsaneOh
16:14.52Xhoǎ is an even heavier vowel
16:16.19Xhoø is like the i in 'bird' or u in 'hurt'
16:16.30XhoSo it's almost neutral sounding in terms of how the Kicath pronounce it
16:17.01Hachi_So ø is pronounced "ur"?
16:17.17XhoMore or less
16:17.30XhoFor the Kicath, they pronounce their vowles very distinctively
16:17.38Xhoø isn't pronounced as such
16:17.46XhoIt's the same as Norwegian which uses said letter in same way
16:17.51XhoWhich is why I used it hur
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16:18.09MonetHi
16:18.41Hachi_Hai u
16:19.38OluapWorkerhey
16:19.55MonetLast night I realised something about GUild Wars 2's world.
16:20.17MonetThe settlements feel -much- larger than in WoW.
16:20.54MonetDivinity's Reach makes Stormwind loosk like a town.
16:21.13ImpyDroidWell according to Lurkmore entire Azeroth is about the size Moscow
16:21.44Hachi_The entire planet?
16:22.08MonetHopefully he mans the kingdom.
16:23.32MonetThe thing that bugs me is Goldshire is supposed to be this sizeable town. 9000 poeple in the RPG. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CdutAfD_MUc/TFMrXLm8ETI/AAAAAAAAAzE/NQSOlGxBBnU/s1600/Elwynn+Goldshire.jpg this is the entire "town" as represented in in WoW.
16:24.58MonetThere's oneo ther house down the road but that's about it.
16:26.58MonetGuild Wars 2's equivilent is a little bigger.
16:30.41MonetI'm having trouble finding an internet picture of Shaemoor so here's a map http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130218131851/gw2/ja/images/1/1f/Village_of_Shaemoor_map.jpg and yes, it is a documnted fact it exists just outside the gates of Divinity's Reach.
16:31.40Monet18 buildings in the village itself against Goldshire's 3.
16:31.45Hachi_hur
16:31.52Hachi_Yeah in comparison, it looks massive
16:32.52ImpyDroidMonet: I mean the continent
16:32.57ImpyDroidThe Eastern Kingdoms
16:33.21MonetRight.
16:35.06GhelaeHello.
16:35.23MonetHi
16:36.32MonetI much-prefer the design of Divinity's Reach http://nerdybookahs.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/gw2_divinitys_reach0188.jpg
16:39.56XhoOh god now I have to count how many characters there are in Kicathian
16:39.57Xhodam dis
16:40.05OluapWorkerdis all ur own fault
16:40.21OluapWorkerAlso pictur http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/8/8b/DistantPlanet07.png
16:40.27OluapWorkerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/7/7f/DistantPlanet08.png and pictur
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16:42.01Hachi_Hachi soon recognizes that Routrith as the one that dragged him to the Imperatrix
16:42.36OluapWorkerThat's actually possible
16:42.55GhelaeHello.
16:43.23Monethttp://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/527701_10150859536394209_114036714208_9927631_1248076209_n.jpg I think Deathwing jut got upstaged.
16:43.44Hachi_Geezush, who dat?
16:43.50XhoKicathian has 275 characters
16:43.53Xhohalp
16:44.08OluapWorkerName all Kicath Bob for now on
16:44.08Hachi_hur
16:44.09OluapWorkerdere helped
16:45.17MonetHachi: I'm having trouble working out
16:45.37OfficerJackal~test
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16:49.37OluapWorkerHachi_: http://25.media.tumblr.com/ab8624d393b44cdc715bb1480ed133bb/tumblr_mlezvlhQrl1s5tlxzo1_1280.jpg omnomnom
16:49.51Monethttp://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/a/a2/Dragon_09_concept_art_%28Last_Shot%29.jpg Zhaitan, GW2's biggest enemy. An infernal cross between Moxix and Deathwing.
16:50.21OluapWorkerdragon dood
16:50.47Mechariccya
16:50.55Hachi_Moxix + Deathwing = Whole lotta trouble
16:51.15Hachi_OluapWorker: nannomnannom
16:51.20OluapWorkerhur
16:51.45MonetThey're considered primordial forces rather than dragons or gods.
17:00.13Monetc you lot in an hour or so
17:01.02OluapWorkeru come back quick
17:01.04OluapWorkergotta rp fast
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17:15.47Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kicath_Empire/Kicathian_Language Updated
17:16.06XhoComplete with phonetics
17:17.42OluapWorkerI'd suggest moving that page to Creature:Kicath/Language or something since the Remnant also speaks it
17:19.10Xhodere i did eet
17:19.55OluapWorkergud
17:20.27Xho18 vowels and 19 consonants
17:20.29Xhodat
17:39.22XhoRight, i've given the Kicathian vowel ǎ the pronunciation of the a in 'croissant'
17:40.01OluapWorkernom
17:40.48Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kicath_Empire/Kicathian_Language/Dictionary Gimme some wordsv
17:40.55XhoAnd verbs to put in here
17:40.57XhoWithin reason of course
17:41.11GhelaeHello.
17:42.48OluapWorkerWords?
17:42.52OluapWorkerHmm
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17:43.16OluapWorkerPlanet, galaxy, friend, enemy, ally
17:43.46XhoWell nouns in particular
17:44.03GhelaeWeapon, gun, sword.
17:44.44GhelaeMy impression of important concepts in Kicathian society comes from Nu.
17:44.59XhoNu - yoy
17:46.26OluapWorkerhur
17:50.06XhoAny more?
17:50.15XhoVerbs plz
17:50.52OluapWorkerDie
17:50.53OluapWorkerhur
17:51.10XhoAlready there hur
17:51.11XhoDie = Ekolnyúratazhazá
17:51.18Hachi_Galactic, aggressive, peaceful, neutral, living, dying
17:51.36Xhodey adjectives
17:51.38Xhobut k
17:51.39OluapWorkerto kill hachi
17:51.42OluapWorkerdere
17:52.00Xho"Achí at man ekolnyúratazhazá"
17:52.12XhoWait
17:52.16XhoThat means 'Hachi dies'
17:52.29Hachi_ohgod
17:52.37Xho"Achí at man mak'tanshátazha"
17:52.41XhoThere we go
17:52.48Ghelae"To spill Hachi's blood".
17:52.58Xhoaye
17:53.13GhelaeAnd that's synonymous with "To kill Hachi"?
17:53.21XhoThere are more precise verbs for 'to kill' but I haven't put it in yet
17:53.35XhoBut in Kicathian terms that is synonymous
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17:54.03GhelaeAh. Because I was thinking if you were, say, if you were carrying a glass full of Hachi's blood (for whatever reason), and stumbled a little, spilling it all over the floor...
17:54.06OfficerJackalBack.
17:54.08Hachi_Running, walking, sleeping, fighting, suiciding, laughing, crying
17:54.12GhelaeHello.
17:54.41XhoRight that will keep me occupied for now
17:55.12XhoUsually in Kicathian they add a suffix to make a noun an adjective
17:55.22XhoI forget what it is though
17:55.26XhoMight be -n
17:55.52XhoNouns that end in n might have that replaced with nin
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17:55.59Technobliteratorokaii
17:56.00Technobliteratorim of
17:56.05Technobliteratoroff
17:56.35OluapWorkershe was never ehre anyway
17:56.38OluapWorkerhere even
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18:01.27SpuThe Kicathian word for Neutral is made of the characters Dark-Light-Small-Large
18:01.41SpuHachi_: Can you repost the second lot of stuff you said
18:02.11Hachi_Running, walking, sleeping, fighting, suiciding, laughing, crying
18:07.26Spuhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kicath_Empire/Kicathian_Language/Dictionary dere moar words
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18:09.48SpuThing is in Kicathian, adjectives are added on to the start of a noun so you get the adjective and noun into one word
18:11.05SpuSo if you want 'galactic massacre' you get some immensely huge word
18:11.38SpuAzaratzatárndalønóriømak'tánshaómatká is the result - you can tell the Kicath use adjectives sparingly
18:12.56OluapWorkerdat long
18:13.00Hachi_geezush
18:13.12Hachi_Kicathian rap battles must take hours
18:14.24SpuThe word Azaratzatárndalønóri which means 'galactic' is composed of Sky-Large-Eternal and then the word Mak'tánshaómatká which means massacre is composed of War and another word for war
18:14.37SpuSo you get Sky-Large-Eternal-War-War
18:14.41Hachi_hur
18:14.44SpuGalactic massacre hur
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18:20.13Hachi_hai u
18:20.15SpuMonet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kicath_Empire/Kicathian_Language/Dictionary Why no one wants to learn Kicathian
18:20.49MonetHi
18:20.49OluapWorkerwe rp nao
18:20.50OluapWorkerpls
18:20.59OluapWorkerhello
18:21.40MonetWait the word for a Kicathian Agent is the same word for an angel or a paladin?
18:22.25SpuYeah
18:22.34SpuIt's to do with ancient traditions
18:22.43SpuAgents were originally the royal guard and whatnot
18:22.59OluapWorkerHachi_ Monet Spu ImpyDroid: can we finish the section?
18:23.05Spusó
18:23.06Hachi_Sure, I'm free
18:23.24MonetAnd considering Kicathian brutality an angel could be jsut as uncompromising in battle as an Agent.
18:24.05MonetI'm guessing Kicath have very flexible tongues.
18:24.19SpuYup
18:24.20MonetOluapWorker: I have time.
18:24.35ImpyDroidI guess
18:24.36SpuThey have a total of 18 vowels and 19 consonants
18:24.39OluapWorker~poke ImpyDroid Imperios
18:24.39infobotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind ImpyDroid Imperios, pokes ImpyDroid Imperios repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
18:26.04ImpyDroidI said I can join
18:26.10OluapWorkeroh
18:26.11OluapWorkerhur
18:26.14OluapWorker#DistantPlanetStoof
18:26.39Spu"Kisiatamnatakin" - Polite talk, which literally means 'People's language'.     "Sinásamnatakin" - Swearing, which literally means 'Worse language'
18:26.52Hachi_Nus language
18:26.56Hachi_Nu's*
18:27.23MonetMaybe I should work on Dracid.
18:27.54OluapWorkerImp get in there
18:28.20MonetI decided Draconis don't have 'the' as a word.
18:28.53Hachi_Oh?
18:29.04SpuNeither do Kicath hur
18:29.08Hachi_"Let us go to store"
18:29.20OluapWorkerSounds like caveman speech
18:29.41Hachi_"Look after baby"
18:29.53OluapWorkerHow is babby formed
18:30.16OluapWorkerImp dam u
18:30.19MonetSInce you use a suffix to describe something. E.g. words ending in "-us" are single objects, "-da" is a posessive term, "-raus" or "-raui" is the singluar/plural for when something is part of something else.
18:30.20OluapWorkerget on the chat
18:30.34ImpyDroidMonet: Like Russians
18:30.36ImpyDroid?
18:30.44ImpyDroidRussians dont have thes
18:30.48MonetRussian is closer to Latin than English.
18:30.58MonetAnd Latin lacks "the".
18:32.16SpuKicath don't have plurals
18:32.38SpuWell they might do I forget if I ever pointed that out
18:32.51Hachi_I don't expect Zazane to have plurals
18:33.06Hachi_Since you don't refer to Zazane as "Zazanes"
18:33.22MonetLemme see... A "Citize  of the Draconid Imperium" would be "inhabitant(of) Draconid Imperium = Residraus Draconida Dominicus".
18:33.29MonetCitizen*
18:34.29SpuHm
18:34.38SpuSounds very Latin-ish
18:34.56SpuKicathian sounds like Japanese from a Russian's point of view
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18:35.27DrodoEmpireHey, everybody!
18:35.31MonetHi
18:36.31MonetAlthough the blind idiot translation might actually be "Inhabitant of Imperium [owned by] Draconis"
18:36.44Spu'Citizen of the Kicath Empire' would be "Churitáurinøkisiat Kisiat Churitáuri"
18:37.07MonetSo "Residraus Dominicus Draconida"
18:37.30Hachi_What about "Soldier of Brood of War", in both Dracid and Kicathian?
18:37.38Spu"Churitáurinøkisiat Kisiat Churitáuri"  - Empire-person Kicath Empire
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18:38.37JepardiHi
18:38.42Hachi_It's funny because for the Brood of War one, it requires two possessives
18:39.34Spu"Ómatkasatøtín Mak'tánshatáuri"
18:40.14SpuSoldier War Empire
18:41.25Monet"Palthorus Corosarmus'Khathpornan"
18:41.46MonetSoldier [of] Brood'War/Bloodshed
18:41.48SpuDraconis looks nice, Kicathian looks ugly hur
18:42.00SpuDracid een
18:42.02Spueven
18:42.03Hachi_I find Kicathian to look like a rather stylish language actually
18:42.48MonetThere are two words for "Brood" in High Dracid.
18:42.59Hachi_Oh?
18:43.49MonetOne being Corosarmus which refers to a family group, the other being Thanvemos which refers to a mother with egggs or hatchlings.
18:44.21Hachi_Ah I see, the "Brood" in Brood of War refers to the family
18:45.20MonetIn Draconis culture War is traditionalyl seen as the act of mass violence, so war and blodoshed kinda mean the same thing.
18:45.23Hachi_Ah it makes sense
18:45.27MonetHence the same word.
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18:45.56SpuKicathian for 'family' is Sa'imnátakisiat for Kicathian families, and Sa'imnátakas-at for foreign families
18:46.25Jepardihi
18:46.31SpuAlthough that's like blood relations
18:47.03SpuAs for what the Draconis probably mean by 'brotherhood' it could have a lot of definitions depending on what it defines
18:47.16MonetNot many High Dracid words are homonyms, that's the key difference between High and Low dracid.
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18:48.37SpuActually come to think of it the Kicathian for Brood of War could also be "Ómatkasatøtínmak'tánsha Mak'tánshatáuri"
18:48.48MonetThat sounds even more complicated.
18:48.58DrodoEmpireHerrooouuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:49.01DrodoEmpire:3
18:49.31MonetBelieve it or not, "Brood of War" is idfferent in Low Dracid.
18:50.50MonetIt would be more like "Brood of Fighting" for a start.
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18:51.07MonetHello.
18:51.29Wormyphonehello
18:51.59DrodoEmpireHerro!
18:52.00Wormyphonewhats been happening in the fic univetse?
18:52.11Wormyphonehi
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18:52.40MonetSince Low Dracid mixes the two meanings of brood together (to mean family) it would be "Thanarmus'Virthernan "
18:53.19Hachi_Sounds like an easy name to remember
18:53.27Wormyphonehi
18:53.34Imperios1I've added a few words in my Radessic dictionary
18:53.41MonetThat's really the point of Low Dracid: It's simpler.
18:53.54Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:166864 This made me laugh
18:54.09Wormyphonei see
18:54.24Wormyphonelol saw that
18:54.28OluapWorkerur a deemun
18:54.58XhoMy attitude ain't that bad
18:55.10XhoI might have an open hatred for all mankind but that's your issue not mine
18:55.19AeonQuestion: Does overpowered automatically equal unfair, or does it not so long as you don't use the power?
18:55.25Imperios1Brood of War is apparently Achamah Han'aechin'ii
18:55.25Hachi_hur
18:55.25XhoWait that doesn't make sense
18:55.37Imperios1In Radessic
18:55.39AeonBecause the Xhodocto don't USE their excessive power\
18:56.00AeonThey refuse to because of their "imcomprehensible minds"
18:56.04Hachi_Hachiman in all languages translates to "idiot"
18:56.06Imperios1All "ch"s are pronounced like "k"
18:56.24Hachi_Aeon: It's not that they refuse, it's just that they cannot be bothered
18:56.34Hachi_We are not worth their power being used
18:56.49MonetI wonce wondered if a few people mistook "overpowered" to mean "way more powerful than you".
18:56.51Xho"it's just that they cannot be bothered"
18:57.00XhoIn reality, it's me not being bothered to use it
18:57.02AeonBut that doesn't make sense...
18:57.08AeonIf its effortless...
18:57.27Wormyphonewell a lot of my fiction is very op but i am careful with using thst piwer
18:57.36DrodoEmpire...Its still potentially a waste of time :P
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18:57.48AeonBut they do spend time on us
18:57.55Hachi_No, they are amused by us
18:58.03Wormyphonepower
18:58.09AeonThey've tried to kill us and failed
18:58.19Hachi_Yes but that is before they ascended
18:58.22XhoWell, define failure
18:58.23AeonThey were trying to kill EVERYTHING in the annihilation
18:58.36AeonThey do not do what they were attempting to do
18:58.46XhoYou can assume they failed or you can assume the Xhodocto are having fun with us
18:59.02XhoTo not complicate, just say they failed
18:59.24MonetI wouldn't call wiping out 99% of the universe "A failure".
18:59.38WormyphoneThe Xhodocto obviously had more important things to do than bump the gigaquadrant off
18:59.41AeonI guess my point is that nothing about their behavior makes any sense
18:59.50MonetThat's the thing that I think some fictions don't get: beyond the 1st gig, the unvierse is dead.
19:00.17AeonAre the actual stars gone or just uninhabitable?
19:00.30Hachi_I think just uninhabitable
19:00.32AeonLike, they are no longer there if you look up
19:00.41Wormyphonelatter
19:01.08AeonThen why not recolonize...
19:01.19Hachi_Because the First Gigaquadrant is big enough
19:01.21MonetYou also have the Archdeomn's wall.
19:01.22Imperios1Cos who cares huh
19:01.38Hachi_People underestimate the size of the 1st Gig
19:02.03AeonIt's occured to me that there is a possible Christian interpreataion of the Fiction Universe
19:02.16AeonThe most major point is that the Xhodocto are Demons
19:02.16MonetSurrounding the 1st gig is a massive barrier of spacetime fucky-you-up.
19:02.17WormyphoneI dont thik the new fictions of the milky way realise t  all habitsble wirlds wrre saved by the viin navitum  the redt of the galaxy eas destroyed
19:02.25Aeonand in Christainity, Demons Lie
19:02.41Hachi_Who says Christianity is right?
19:02.57XhoWell originally yes, the Xhodocto were based on Christian stoof
19:03.00Hachi_There are many interpretations of demons
19:03.07AeonI'm saying it's a possible interpretation
19:03.10XhoBut now they're more based around Hinduism and Buddhism
19:03.16AeonIt could be that Kamik is Satan
19:03.25AeonAnd lying when he claims otherwise
19:03.41Aeonand the Xhodocto are demons, and lying when they claim otherwise
19:03.44WormyphoneChristianity has littleinfluence on Xho'd modern fiction
19:04.08Hachi_Hinduism, Buddhism and hints of Shinto are more apparent in Xho's fiction than Christianity
19:04.09Imperios1Aeon: Who says that they're demons?
19:04.24AeonI'm saying it's a possible interpretation
19:04.38Imperios1Maybe they're Gorfs
19:04.55Wormyphoneit is more akin with Hinduism I think
19:05.08Imperios1Aye
19:05.25Imperios1One funny thing about the Divinarium
19:05.27AeonI don't know much about Hinduism
19:05.32Aeononly the basics
19:05.35Imperios1I can't actually decide which culture does it represent
19:05.39Aeonand not even that much really
19:05.40MonetYeah but the Devil isnt' a destroyer.
19:05.41Imperios1I mean the RL one
19:05.44Imperios1Aye
19:05.47Imperios1He's more of a corruptor
19:05.48AeonYes he is
19:05.58Imperios1Well it's not his main job
19:05.58OluapWorkerdum Gorf is above Kamik
19:05.58AeonHe comes to "Steal kill and destroy"
19:06.05Hachi_The Devil doesn't plan to destroy, otherwise there would be nothing for him to rule
19:06.06Imperios1Yeah
19:06.10Imperios1If Kamik is the devil then who is god/.
19:06.11Imperios1?
19:06.13Imperios1Oh wait Cyr's fic
19:06.46AeonHe does plan to kill off humans
19:06.54AeonThat's rather esablished
19:06.55MonetThe Devil is a corruptor yes, he lies and he manipulates for his own gains. He and the demons of hell were angels who rebelled against God and were cast down for it.
19:07.03AeonYes
19:07.11AeonHe is the villain
19:07.28AeonBasically all bad things can be traced back to him
19:07.32MonetThe angels wanted a more proactive role in guiding humannity but God wouldn't allow it.
19:07.44AeonIn Mormanism yes
19:07.50Aeon*Mormonism
19:07.58Hachi_If Satan is the ruler of all things bad, why does he keep the evil souls tortured and punished?
19:07.58AeonThat was the dispute then
19:08.02Wormyphonei dont like the notion we are fallen agels
19:08.05AeonHe doesn't
19:08.27AeonHe is in hell because he is being punished
19:08.28Imperios1Hachi_: In Judaism, Satan is actually a pretty nice guy
19:08.30MonetAeon: Read Dante's "Inferno" sometime. Hell 'aint pretty.
19:08.34Imperios1Sure he tempts people, but he isn't bad
19:08.42Imperios1Merely... a person who tests people
19:08.48OluapWorkerdum religious discussion
19:08.57XhoSatan is a personification of everything that God is not
19:09.24XhoNot necessarily evil, but not necessarily good either
19:09.24Wormyphonethe ancient gnostics and hermetics said msn was gods brotherr
19:09.42MonetIn Inferno Satan is a prisoner in the deepest level of Hell, chewing on the bodies of Judas, Brutus and one other guy who was responsible for Caessar's assasination.
19:09.59AeonYes
19:10.12Hachi_I remember that in ancient days, God was once seen with a "wife" before Christianity said there were no other deities
19:10.30AeonIn the Bible?
19:10.38WormyphoneSatan reptesents everytthing a christian society fears
19:10.40MonetBefore the bible was written.
19:10.42Hachi_I think it was before the Bible
19:10.54OluapWorkerMr God and Ms God
19:10.56Wormyphonethst is strictly speaking
19:11.05MonetThe Bible was when it was decided to merge all dieties into one "super-diety".
19:11.24AeonMonet: You get that from...
19:11.46Hachi_Technically, Mary is God's partner
19:11.46Imperios1Hachi_: Nu
19:11.52Imperios1That was before modern JUDAISM
19:11.56Imperios1Not Christianity
19:11.57MonetAeon: There was a BBC 4 documentary years ago called "Did God have a Wife?"
19:12.00Hachi_Yeah, before Judaism
19:12.13AeonAnd what source did it cite
19:12.24Hachi_Temples and artefacts
19:12.29Hachi_Scriptures and shit
19:12.33AeonIt might be that a lot of people believed that God had a wife
19:12.40MonetI can't remember it was years ago but that was one of the documentary's key points.
19:13.03ImpyDroidHachi_: Basically Judaism evolved from a polytheistic religion
19:13.10MonetAs Judaism felt threatened, priests decided to write about a god more powerful than any god before it.
19:13.26Hachi_So God is the product of a religious pissing contest?
19:13.26Wormyphonewas it the early her
19:13.27Wormyphonehermeticidts and gnostics?
19:13.36ImpyDroidGod OP please nerf
19:13.40Hachi_hur
19:13.59MonetHachi_: Maybe.
19:14.21MonetPerhaps a similar reason to the origins of God Save the King/Queen.
19:14.50AeonThe Gnostics are very divorced from most any time's Orthodoxy
19:15.02AeonLargely because Orthodoxy doesn't really change
19:15.07ImpyDroidI have become interested in Gnosticism
19:15.11ImpyDroidOrthodoxy?
19:15.13Hachi_I myself like to believe that Satan is doing community service and God is a prick for keeping him there that long
19:15.22ImpyDroidAs in Russia
19:15.28Wormyphonebefore Roman Catholism Jesus wad depicted with a wsnd
19:15.33ImpyDroidHachi_: That's Judaism belief
19:15.34AeonNo
19:15.46AeonNot as in Russia
19:15.46ImpyDroidWormyphone: Wand? MAGIC
19:15.54AeonAs in not heresy
19:15.54MonetThe inhabitants of Judea feared the destruction of their way of life, It does make sense why one of the passages of the Bible is "I am the lord they God, thous shalt have no other gods before me".
19:16.01ImpyDroidDon't show that picture to Anti-Mage
19:16.06Hachi_ohgod
19:16.16AeonWormy: Source?
19:16.20ImpyDroid*those
19:16.23Wormyphonesnort snort
19:17.09Hachi_The Divine Comedy is one of my favourite religion-themed texts. It's a pretty grizzly book.
19:17.24Hachi_Well, series of texts really
19:17.35AeonNarnia pwns
19:17.47MonetInferno, Purgatorio and Paradisio.
19:18.08ImpyDroidHachi_: Aye
19:18.28MonetSpending a year or so listening to the whining of a zealous Anti-THeist has led me to research into the more esoteric aspects of Christianity.
19:18.49MonetI once came to the onclusion that most religious ideas had varyingly practical origins.
19:19.22AeonMonet: Many, yes
19:19.55AeonPractices especially
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19:20.44Wormyphonelol i read Dante's inferno before bed on Easter
19:20.47ImpyDroidMonet: Believe it or not I actually convinced hI'm that religion has some good points
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19:20.56Hachi__fuk disconned
19:21.07AeonImpy: What were these?
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19:21.19Monet_Take the rule against artificial contraception: At the time condoms were made from animal organs and medicine was, for a good part, worse than going au naturale.
19:21.33Monet_The Romans used LEAD as a medical ingredient.
19:21.50AeonJudging just my my one conversation, Irsk has never debated anything more than a casual Churchgoer
19:22.24ImpyDroidOuch
19:22.54Monet_When I used to talk to him, I came to the conclusion he used Christianity alone as the basis for his hatred of religion in general.
19:23.14AeonLet's be more accurate
19:23.23Hachi__Well the idea of any god or deity kinda made Irsk go "Nope"
19:23.29WormyphoneIrsk just wathes the AmazingAtheist guy, he told me he didnt hate religion beforr tjat
19:23.33AeonHe used his incorrect understanding of Christianity
19:24.00AeonThat explains stuff
19:24.14Wormyphonelol
19:24.15AeonTJ is still probably smarter
19:24.36AeonI imagine he would know what Apologetics is, or at least have a misunderstanding of it
19:25.19Monet_AmazingAtheist is a comedian who uses satire (I think) for entertainment. Irsk thought he was serious.
19:25.25Wormyphonetest
19:25.31AeonTJ is serious
19:25.34Monet_In other words, Irk took seriously waht was meant ot be comedy.
19:25.35AeonIn the opinions
19:25.54AeonSo far as I know, he is serious.
19:26.05ImpyDroidMy geography teacher is a bit of a fundie
19:26.20ImpyDroidShe even gave me a book about Christianity
19:26.29AeonI have a firend who needs to debate Irsk
19:26.31WormyphoneIrsk gets funny ideas against things.  he argued wirh me many times about my vegetsrrianism
19:26.38AeonWhat was the book?
19:26.54AeonYou're a vegitarian?
19:27.15ImpyDroidWormyphone: It might have something to do with my roots but I do not understand why does Irsk hate rice and seaweed
19:27.23ImpyDroidThey're really tasty
19:27.36Wormyphonehe also thought i wss an environmentslist tree hugger because i studied countryside management and conservstion
19:27.37AeonPeople eat seaweed?
19:27.52Monet_Aeon: Please tell me you're not being serious.
19:28.00ImpyDroidErm... Yes?
19:28.16AeonI did not know that they did
19:28.18WormyphoneIve esten seaweed
19:28.26Monet_Suchi. SUSHI!
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19:28.44Wormyphoneeaten
19:28.46AeonSushi includes seaweeD?
19:28.46ImpyDroidOr a... how are you suppose to pronounce that in English
19:28.55ImpyDroidSeryaktyamuri or something
19:29.00Wormyphonecant say it tadtes that great
19:29.14ImpyDroidA soup with rice, seaweed and meat
19:29.15Monet_http://www.mizumilwaukee.com/attachments/Image/sushi.jpg?template=generic the wrapping is seaweed.
19:29.25Aeonhuh
19:29.34AeonI never know what that wrapping was
19:29.43ImpyDroidI ate dried seaweed once
19:29.55ImpyDroidIt was crispy and spicy
19:30.48Wormyphoneseaweed could solve world hunger
19:30.59AeonWormy: What would you say about a sapient species that needs to eat meat to live?
19:31.04Monet_I remember one time during an Anno 2070 RP with you-know-who, the EEcos make biopolymers from compounds in corn and algae. he thought the smartphones made with these biopolymers sould not only be all slimy and wet, but that they would also -squeak-.
19:31.40Monet_he nicknamed them "seaweed phones".
19:32.37AeonBy the way, is it just me, or is every single evil species a carnivore?
19:32.46Aeonin the wikiverse I mean
19:33.02AeonImmortals don't count
19:33.18WormyphoneIm not anti meat, i just dont like the industry and i dont like the taste
19:33.36Monet_Aeon: Coincidence.
19:33.41AeonI need to ask that to a hardcore vegan
19:34.09AeonReally, is it not that people make their evil species carnivores because of the predators are mean trope?
19:34.33Monet_We havep lenty of good-gy species that are meat eaters.
19:34.46AeonYes, but the reverse?
19:35.00AeonPlease name ONE vegitarian bad guy race
19:35.33ImpyDroidGeltastra
19:35.42AeonThat's a person
19:35.51Wormyphoneits ptobably due to thrir ptogrrss through zSoore
19:35.51ImpyDroidHm lemme think
19:35.59AeonOwler is also an herbivore
19:36.11ImpyDroidThe Rades were pretty nasty
19:36.32Wormyphoneprogress spore
19:36.34ImpyDroidAlso the Artharons are herbivores (but only in-game)
19:36.40Monet_Thing is this trope isn't really stereotype. Most prey animals (aka herbivores) are flight animals.
19:37.07Monet_So they are not programmed to be outwardly aggressive unless out of self-defence.
19:37.09ImpyDroidHm
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19:37.23AeonMonet: True
19:37.26ImpyDroidWhy do people think tofu tastes bad?
19:37.44Monet_ImpyDroid: Probably because it tastes of nothing.
19:38.03Monet_I blame our modern addiction to flavouring chemicals, additives and sugar.
19:38.15ImpyDroidMonet_: That's why you have to add sauces and everything
19:38.34Monet_Most herbivores, out of a choice between running or killing the attacking foe or running. will run.
19:38.44Monet_Only fighting when backed into a corner.
19:39.19Monet_Not exactly the kind of mentality that results in aggression wll to harm others.
19:39.21ImpyDroidWhen properly cooked and spiced, it's really tasty
19:39.34Monet_or will to*
19:40.10WormyphoneAgain, I think its due to people paying the essy red card traits in aSzSpore
19:40.30WormyphoneSpore
19:40.49Monet_Aeon are you referring to the wikiverse or Spore itself?
19:40.59ImpyDroidAeon: We ought to make the Gargator and the Divinarium interact
19:41.00AeonWikiverse\
19:41.08AeonI know
19:41.48AeonImpyDroid: The Gargator have 0 chance in a battle, that's why my only proposal has been when I someday get rid of them
19:42.04ImpyDroidAeon: Why so?
19:42.18ImpyDroidBesides they don't have to fight
19:42.33AeonThey could debate
19:42.45AeonI don't imagine them as allies
19:43.04ImpyDroidIovera vs the Gargator leader rap battle
19:43.06Monet_Larger herbovires and soem smaller herbivores have effective ways of defending themselves.
19:43.56ImpyDroidWe don't have much herbivore species anyway actually
19:44.03ImpyDroidRambo, Radeons, who else?
19:44.31AeonAeoneonatrix
19:44.35AeonCondalla
19:44.51WormyphoneI have a race of Deeroids
19:44.51ImpyDroidI am talking about old-school species
19:44.51Monet_Take the Anklyosaur. It's armoured, has a sharp beak and a huge mace on the end of its tail. And what does it eat? Plants!
19:45.18GrandpaImpyNot your whippersnapper youngster Aeoneonatrix!
19:45.24AeonKen Ham - T-rex ate Coconuts
19:45.27Wormyphonewat
19:46.05ImpyDroidMonet_: Random thought: a species of sentient Ankylosaurs
19:46.15Monet_Aeon: With its teeth?
19:47.15WormyphoneWho is Ken Ham?
19:47.35AeonThe Founder of Answers in Genesis
19:47.41WormyphoneA young earth crrationist or comedian?
19:47.50ImpyDroidWait Ham
19:47.51AeonYEC
19:47.55Monet_In-fiction, Terratrix are mostly fruit-eaters.
19:47.58ImpyDroidHam is a biblical character
19:48.15Wormyphoneoh i wonder what scientific credentials he has...
19:48.17ImpyDroidThe progenitor of the black people and one of Noah's sons
19:48.19ImpyDroidRight?
19:48.30Hachi__I think so, yes
19:48.36Hachi__Oh, back by the way
19:48.45AeonHe's only said by tradition to be the father of black people, but he probably wasn't
19:49.12Monet_Dat racist.
19:49.13AeonAfter all, one of his sons, Canan, is obviously the father of the CANANites
19:49.25ImpyDroidNi- nevermind
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19:50.18Hachi__I don't get why Enoch deserved immortality
19:50.29Hachi__He's the only Biblical character aside from God that hasn't died
19:50.57Mechariclol
19:51.03Mecharic~seen GD12
19:51.10infobotgd12 <31900ebb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.144.14.187> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 5h 51m 50s ago, saying: 'nighty'.
19:51.18MecharicBah...
19:51.19WormyphoneI'm a geology student, I would like to show him Hutton's Uncinformity I daw yesterday showing obvious Deep time
19:51.23Hachi__Instead, God just "took him". Like, physically allowed him to exist in the Heavens.
19:51.50AeonThat's also merely a human tradition
19:51.57AeonWiat that
19:52.11AeonActually, I'm not even sure that that is confirmed of him
19:52.23AeonI know that's confirmed of Elija
19:52.28AeonAnd Mary
19:52.37Hachi__Enoch was never recorded to have died, only the age in which he ascended into Heaven
19:52.49Aeonmaybe
19:54.36Monet_Lucky sod.
19:55.01Monet_Then again...depending on your perspective that might be a bad thing.
19:55.10OluapWorker_Hachi__: Watch this if you haven't already http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GOWxtGaAOk
19:55.13AeonWhy?
19:55.15OluapWorker_it has bunnies in it
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19:55.35OluapWorker_spu
19:55.40XhoI have returned
19:55.42Hachi__I wonder what happened to Lamech after he killed Cain. I reckon Cain came back and beat the shit out of him, since Lamech was supposed to be punished "seven-fold" for killing Cain in the first place.
19:56.22AeonActually, the Cain SCP is a plausible intepretation of this
19:56.35AeonBarring the immortality
19:56.37Mecharicis an average system pop of 91 billion within scientific possibility if the systems are usually well developed?
19:57.06Monet_Mecharic: Only if each system has at least one continent-spanning mealopolis
19:57.11Monet_megalopolis*
19:58.10Monet_Cain lived a life of torture. He could be injured and killed but every time he later came back, remembering what had happened. He could not grow anything, his immortality not only isolated him but also prevented any kind of escape.
19:58.11MecharicOk, I'm good then. When I say well-developed I mean every planet is colonized, moons are colonized, asteroid belts and comet clouds as well. Basically every space that can be habited is.
19:58.32Monet_91 billion is a LOT of people to care for.
19:59.02MecharicTrue... planet farms and space-farms are within the capacity of the empire in question though.
19:59.09MecharicAnd they have lots of trade :P
19:59.14AeonThere are like 20,000,000,000 Aeons
19:59.26MecharicOver how many planets?
19:59.36Hachi__If there was a Biblical anime, the fight between Cain and Abel should be epic hur
19:59.37Aeon~500
19:59.37infobotsomebody said 500 was at #tuxboxproject
19:59.55ImpyDroidHeresy
19:59.55Monet_Cain is an example of why immortality is not a good thing.
20:00.14MecharicAeon, you have 500 systems with a pop only 20 billion?
20:00.14ImpyDroidHachi__: You reminded me
20:00.16AeonBut immortality is haven would be
20:00.28ImpyDroidI am learning to draw manga ATM
20:00.33Hachi__Ooh yey
20:00.36Hachi__How's it going?
20:00.42AeonOf the Aeoneonatrix, yes.
20:00.50ImpyDroidMeh-ish
20:01.10MecharicThats about 40 million a system, what, one city per system?
20:01.20MecharicOr maybe 2 cities?
20:01.23AeonThough it grows pretty fast because they're so far from the carrying capacity
20:01.30MecharicFair enough
20:01.45AeonAlso, There are Dorgitassi
20:01.48Monet_Aeon: Yeah this is why I am getting put off the idea of heaven.
20:01.50MecharicI'm just trying to judge what sized pop a dense-population system would house.
20:02.14Hachi__Heaven is full of naked people yet physical pleasures are forbidden. That's like a big "fuck you".
20:02.20AeonIf there is no pain I see no reason not to live forever except boredom
20:02.34AeonPhysical pleasure is not forbidden
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20:02.51AeonSex itself just doesn't happen
20:02.54Zmr56Hi there
20:03.16MecharicHi Zm
20:03.24Zmr56Strange way to enter a chat in IRC
20:03.44Monet_Aeon: So...you can engage in physical pleasuer but no actual sex? Dat boring.
20:03.53MecharicSo, do you of Sporewiki think that 500 farming systems could support 350 city-systems?
20:04.16XhoHm
20:04.18MecharicWith the total pop being around 30 trillion or so
20:04.24XhoDepends on how big these systems are
20:04.34ImpyDroidHachi__: I don't think it is
20:04.46MecharicStandard 3-5 planet system, 1 asteroid belt, 3 gas giants
20:04.51ImpyDroidI always imagined Heaven as a sea of souls
20:05.01Monet_Aeon: That's liek saying "here's a caramel-centred choclate the size of your fist, but we removed the caramel"
20:05.09Hachi__ohgod
20:05.14Mechariclol mon
20:05.30Xho" I hate people who abuse the use of profanity and take pleasure in pain." - Valkrona
20:05.40XhoRight, this is going to be fun for all the wrong reasons
20:05.45Hachi__ohgodyes
20:05.50Hachi__YEEEES
20:05.54AeonI trust that God can make something better than sex. We are not rodents and can gain joy in other ways
20:05.57XhoNot that I want it to be fun
20:06.03Mechariclol
20:06.12XhoJust that I do said things and, well, yeah
20:06.15AeonWell, I AM a rodent and i can
20:06.23Monet_Better. Than sex.
20:06.29Monet_Are you high?
20:06.31Hachi__Dude. There's no such thing.
20:06.32Mechariclol
20:06.38ImpyDroidAeon: > we are not rodents
20:06.43ImpyDroidIovera - :<
20:06.47Zmr56hur
20:06.48Hachi__Radeon are rodents and they don't have much sex
20:06.55Mecharic36 billion per system averaged out seems reasonable.
20:07.02ImpyDroidIovera - fukken primate suprematists
20:07.14MecharicHur
20:07.18Hachi__Tyraz - shup and put on ur leather
20:07.23MecharicXD
20:08.06AeonFun fact: The Aeoneonatrix aren't anything more than maybe Mammals
20:08.16MecharicEh?
20:08.22Monet_God gave us men a penis, and he gave us something to purpously stick it into. he also made it so we'd find the actual the act really enjoyable. He wanted us to do it!
20:08.24Aeonnvm
20:08.40OluapWorker_-Hachi
20:08.42ImpyDroidGod
20:08.48Hachi__ohgod
20:09.00MecharicWhy are we still talking about sex...
20:09.00ImpyDroidWhy does Heaven have to be associated with pleasure?
20:09.03AeonBecause we are teenagers
20:09.13MecharicBecause Heaven is supposed to be good...
20:09.18Zmr56Well
20:09.19ImpyDroidIt is more about... peace. Serenity. Calamity and purity.
20:09.20Zmr56Apart from one
20:09.20MecharicGood = Worth Going To = Pleasure
20:09.22Mechariclol
20:09.27ImpyDroidThe final rest
20:09.28MecharicPeace is boring...
20:09.47MecharicWho ever read a book about happy people doing happy things?
20:09.56Zmr56Don't worry, you imagine anything in heaven and its there
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20:10.03MecharicConflict is what makes life so much more fun :D
20:10.06MecharicHi Flash
20:10.06Zmr56Or at least in most cases
20:10.06XhoThat's called the New Testament, apart from a few important details
20:10.08Zmr56Hi
20:10.10FlashfireHey Mech
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20:11.30AdmiralPandaHello all
20:11.32Zmr56Hi
20:12.11MecharicHai
20:12.17FlashfireHey
20:12.48MecharicWhich superpower would you rather have, Flashlight Hands or the power to make people Fart on Command?
20:12.58Hachi__http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/538003_555759641131529_715898436_n.jpg
20:13.00AdmiralPandaMay your day be filled with delicious candy and horrible painful death
20:13.16Zmr56Fart on Command
20:13.17MecharicOhgodhachi...
20:13.21MecharicScarred for life.
20:13.24OluapWorker_dat chik
20:13.30Zmr56hur
20:13.38OluapWorker_Hachi__: Did you see the video I posted?
20:13.39FlashfireWhat is that line from
20:13.54Hachi__Jah, I like the bunnies
20:13.58AdmiralPandaTitanic I believe
20:15.02MecharicIt's from Chicks-N-Pics
20:15.03Monet_Hachi_: Click here to see a gorgeous chick http://www.hblewett.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/chick.jpg
20:15.20MecharicVery pretty :P
20:15.32Mecharic's heart melts
20:15.37AdmiralPandanoms it
20:15.41Zmr56Omnomnom
20:15.42OluapWorker_puts Hachi in the level with the mutant purple bunnies
20:15.44Zmr56hey
20:15.51Hachi__NU
20:15.52Zmr56I was gonna nom that first
20:15.53Hachi__PLEASE GOD NU
20:16.34Flashfireso guise
20:16.37Flashfiredoes anyone want to rp
20:16.38AdmiralPandawhat's funny is I typed more characters and got it in first
20:16.40Flashfiremit mir
20:16.43Zmr56noms the partially digested chick by ripping AdmiralPanda's stomach before stiching it back up again
20:16.56AdmiralPandanoms Zmr56 whole
20:16.59AdmiralPandavictory
20:17.09Zmr56tastes good
20:17.20AdmiralPandaFlash: I won't be in any situation to RP for probably another hour or so
20:17.25Zmr56I least I achieved something
20:17.39Flashfirek pander
20:17.40Zmr56Filling you ip with dat feelin'
20:17.46Flashfirei'll wait for you hun
20:18.00Zmr56Wait wat
20:18.01AdmiralPandadouble 0.0 from awkward sexual innuendo
20:18.05Zmr56Two people?
20:18.05AdmiralPanda#donotwant
20:18.18Zmr56Hmmm
20:18.47Zmr56Don't want to use too much 'energy'
20:19.04Zmr56Book an meeting
20:19.22AdmiralPandapicks up Hachi__ and places him in a bowl of lettuce
20:19.36Hachi__cuddles and nibbles the lettuce
20:19.54OluapWorker_http://24.media.tumblr.com/938556d52cc53cbdbc2328c5cd762e45/tumblr_mheykvaF2v1qhunkxo1_400.png dis u
20:19.56AdmiralPandaThe lettuce is full of caterpillars
20:20.16Hachi__cuddles the caterpillars
20:20.26AdmiralPandahur
20:22.26Flashfirehow do you cuddle those
20:22.35Hachi__With a small bunny
20:22.37Flashfirethey want your flesh
20:22.42Hachi__And large caterpillars
20:22.53AdmiralPandachecks the bag * nope, regular leaf-eaters
20:23.25AdmiralPandawell, they do eat zombies too, but that's another story
20:25.48OluapWorker_http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/489/537/da0.gif Killing a descended character
20:26.05Hachi__hur
20:26.07Xholul
20:27.30AdmiralPandahow long you gon be around for Flash
20:27.33AdmiralPanda?
20:27.46OluapWorker_Tyraz - Volkarus! I killed you!           Volkarus - [gif]
20:28.36AdmiralPandaHel' - More opportunities to stab people! I'm in!
20:29.41Monet_Volkarus was a special case.
20:29.41Aeonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPkSzyxM2ag This video has an interesting story I coudl tell
20:30.13Monet_He did permenantly die but he did some quick thinking before his brain completely melted.
20:30.36Monet_And ended up sharing space in Pyrak's brain for a few years.
20:30.46AeonBasically, all of the people in the Religion and supernatural and woo debate on YouTube back eachother up, this includes theists backing up atheistsd
20:31.06AeonIn this case, by reposting videos that are down from false copyright claims.
20:31.21AeonI think that's interesting
20:31.24AdmiralPandaAeon: None of us care about silly arguments like that
20:31.33AdmiralPandamainly cus it winds up being depressing
20:32.06AeonIn this case, it's a scientist talking about an Altmed person
20:32.13Monet_Aeon is this bloke you?
20:32.25AeonHe was hit with an (in my opinion) false DMCA claim
20:32.25Monet_This Puppy Turtle bloke.
20:32.28AeonNo
20:32.38AeonThePuppyTurtle is, the video is not by me
20:33.05Aeonhttp://youtu.be/bkn5D5o-Jwk this is one of my videos
20:33.09Monet_That's what I was asking, if the poster is you.
20:33.21AeonI am ThePuppyTurtle
20:33.44Monet_Srew this i'm watching PSY's new video again.
20:38.11Hachi__ThePuppyTurtle: I lol'd so much
20:41.10AeonHachi__ In a good way or a bad way?
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20:41.40Hachi__In a good way, I enjoyed the video
20:41.41Monet_Aeon I know I sounded harsh earlier but on a personal note you don't need to sell the positive effects of alternative medicine ti me.
20:42.17AeonMonet_: Wait, do you believe in Alternative Medacine?
20:43.41Monet_Traditional remedies, holistic medicine, osteopathy, acupuncture, meditation, yeah I do believe in it.
20:44.09AeonOkay... why?
20:44.32Monet_I take it you think it's nonsense?
20:45.20Zmr56Bye
20:45.32AeonYes. The only reason it's "alternative" is because it's not accepted by the scientific community, and it's not accepted by the scientific community because it is unproven
20:46.02AeonOnce it is proven, it is no longer "alternative." It's just medacine
20:46.35Monet_It's probably because I have a good idea of how powerful the mind is. I know how feeeling depressed can feel similar to having a body-destroying illness. So I have ocme to the conclusion the opposite must also be true.
20:46.36AeonI intend no offense by this.
20:47.03AeonBut that's not a valid inference.
20:47.10AeonWe debate this in PMS
20:48.28Monet_Yeah but how would the pharmaceutical companies make money if everyone started using alternative ways to feel better?
20:49.00Monet_I think that's one reason these methods don't end up passing clinical trials.
20:49.26OluapWorker_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Distant_Planet#Giant_Wiggly_Thief It is dun
20:49.42AeonMonet_ They would sell them
20:50.11OluapWorker_We are now halfway through Distant Planet
20:50.16Monet_Even if said rememdy is meditation?
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20:50.35OluapWorker_dumba
20:50.36Monet_Or Feng-Shue?
20:50.37AeonThey could sell guides to meditatio
20:50.50Monet_Yeah...drugs kinda make more money.
20:50.55AeonJust like people can sell guides to wieght-loss
20:51.13Technobliteratorya dad
20:51.27Monet_Also that would put chemists out of the job a little and holistic writers more in the limelight.
20:51.37OluapWorker_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Distant_Planet#Giant_Wiggly_Thief check nu section
20:51.49AeonSo you think that scientists are universally in the pockets of a conspiracy?
20:52.15Monet_No but who do you think own the labs?
20:52.47Monet_Who publishes the scientific journals?
20:53.17AeonIf it were proven that these methods worked, we would have a cure for cancer and whatever else. The person who discovered that would be able to buy a new lab
20:53.42AeonPharmacists do NOT publish them so far as I know
20:53.56Hachi__Nikola Tesla discovered a lot of things. He died broke and lonely except a few pigeons.
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20:54.30Hachi__hai u
20:54.38GD12u hai
20:54.57Aeon#AltMedDebateAeon
20:55.06Hachi__I think that medical research needs to turn away from herbs, pills and that sorta thing and look more into what robotics and nanotechnology can do. It'd be much easier to remove a limb and replace it with a fully prosphetic version upon the person's request.
20:55.23Monet_Meanwhile Thomas Edison died a rich and world-famous man. Yet Tesla promised free transmittable energy.
20:55.35Hachi__Jah, Edison was a con artist
20:56.15Monet_Industrialists could earn mroe money with Edison'sidea.
20:56.19AeonAnd look, we use AC and DC today
20:56.33AeonTesla won because frauds are weeded out of science
20:56.56AeonIt just wasn't until after Tesla died
20:57.45Hachi__Indeed, it's sad because Tesla was actually quite a good man and he promised a lot of things that could've done the world good.
20:57.46AeonAlso, if they won't publish a cure for cancer because less money, why did they publish the cure for ulcers?
20:57.49Monet_You can't make money on the free stuff.
20:58.15GD12aye
20:58.52AeonI reject the idea that they could perptually keep this stuff out
20:59.05AeonEspecially accupuncture
20:59.09Aeonfor example
20:59.23AeonBecause 1: You DO need a practicioner
20:59.37Monet_Why? ever wondered why battery-powered cars have been so slow to develop?
20:59.40Aeonand 2: They have done studies
21:00.06AeonI don't know. i dont's assume it's a conspiracy without EVICENDE
21:00.30Aeon*EVIDENCE
21:00.43Monet_Well there was an article in the New Scientist about a year back that suggests we've had battery-powered cars for almsot as long as we've had petrol-powered cars.
21:01.39GD12On another note i'm reading this Valkrona shenanigans
21:01.59Monet_Don't believe everything you read.
21:02.03AeonLook, Monet, the scientific precess tested accupunture. It showed that it does worse than when you use toothpicks as a placebo. It lost fair and square, and that is yet to be reversed.
21:02.16GD12Aeon : Who funded the study
21:02.43GD12Aeon : Corporate funded studies generally have a motive for happening
21:03.17AeonGD12: Doesn't matter, if it's done right it is valid
21:03.43GD12Aeon : Still important, who funded the stydy
21:04.01AeonAlso, both Alt Med practitioners and real doctors have a profit motive
21:04.05Monet_You can make more money selling pills than you can having a guy stick a bunch of needles into your skin. People are more open to the former too because people don't like pain and associate acupuncture with pain.
21:04.34AeonReally? Do people not make a living on Medotation?
21:04.41Aeonselling books on it I mean
21:04.52Hachi__Not as much as a doctor would
21:05.03GD12Depends on how famous the author is
21:05.04Aeonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp5eiHUdwb4\
21:05.07GD12hur
21:05.07Aeonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp5eiHUdwb4
21:05.25Hachi__Because people are more focussed on believing that medical science is superior to older forms of medical treatment
21:05.25Monet_I never tried acupunture myself but I hear that with an expert acupuncturist you would barely feel anything.
21:05.42AeonThat may well be
21:05.44GD12Perhaps CNN is more reliable than youtube : http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/11/health/health-acupuncture hur
21:06.00OluapWorker_Acupunture freaks me out
21:06.12Monet_See?
21:06.15GD12I believe current medical science is a generalization of older forms of medical treatment
21:06.30Hachi__It's a generalization, not necessarily an improvement
21:06.34GD12and a more precise formulation of it
21:07.26Monet_Also here's another thing: It's corporate mentality that makes us think "placebo effect = Nothing actualyl happens".
21:07.46AeonTHAT
21:07.49Hachi__It's true, a state of mind can effect your body
21:07.54GD12imo the brain's thoughts are inextricably linked to a bodily reaction.
21:08.05OluapWorker_I though that was the definition of a placebo
21:08.06Aeon'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THAT IS
21:08.25AeonIt does nothing that Absolutely anything doesn't do
21:08.39Hachi__Placebo = The pill or treatment doesn't work, but you think it does thus it's your state of mind that is making you better
21:08.43GD12OLuapWorker_ : Placebo = YOu think itdoes something that it actually doesn't
21:09.05OluapWorker_I see
21:09.10AeonPlacebos only cure main
21:09.20Aeon*pain
21:09.20GD12not really no
21:09.20AeonAnd make you think you're better
21:09.25Hachi__They don't actually
21:09.25AeonThey do not cure cancer
21:09.28Hachi__They cure nothing
21:09.29Monet_I could swap 'that it' for 'but it' and the message is completely different.
21:09.42GD12Actually thinking you are better perhaps leads to the body better combating certain diseases
21:09.50Hachi__^
21:09.53Aeonor have any influence on the objective condition of your bodily health
21:09.59GD12remember, the body and concious thought could be linked
21:10.24AeonGD12: Yes, I could also be a talking unicorn
21:10.47Monet_You'd be surprised how much of our world might be a fabrication of our own minds.
21:10.54GD12Aeon : If you want to go into quantum states yes you could.
21:11.19AeonAlright, let me try a new argument
21:11.34Monet_One reason people who lose touch with reality and fantasy are convinced of waht they see is because it is as real for them as our wolrd is to us
21:12.05Monet_It's all about perception.
21:12.11Hachi__Darren Brown has used placebos in an experiment before. He said to these volunteers they would be taking a new type of drug that would cure them of their phobias and boost their confidence. By telling them this and having it "confirmed" by a guy in a doctor's suit, these volunteers believed it. The placebo did nothing, but they overcame their phobias because they thought it did.
21:12.17AeonLet's assume that there really is a conspiracy to keep anything that does not make money from passing clinical trials
21:12.54AeonNow what does this mean?
21:13.26GD12I think it's this, big pharmaceutical companies want to make shittons of money.
21:13.43GD12The only thing bad about a placebo product is if they get sued fori t.
21:13.44AeonIt means that Money-making medacine must go through clinical trials whilst any old quck can make up some new Alt-Med
21:13.56GD12The only good thing about a working product is increasing publicity.
21:14.09AeonGiven this, I know which one I trust
21:14.29AeonGD12: So no one goes into medacine because they want to help people?
21:14.46GD12I'm talking about the pharmecutial companies
21:14.51GD12Not the doctors
21:15.01Hachi__Pharmacutial companies, not hospitals
21:15.51Hachi__Then again, over here things are a little different since we have the NHS to fund our hospitals
21:15.58Hachi__Thus we get free health care
21:16.03Monet_I remember having constipation problems a while back and the "best thing" my local GP could offer was laxatives.
21:16.13GD12hur
21:16.26AeonLook, if Alt-Med consistandly worked, we would see it do things like cure cancer and alter the world objectively in other ways
21:16.42Monet_Cancer is...complicated.
21:16.55OfficerJackalOne does not simply destroy cancer.
21:16.58Hachi__There are different forms of cancer, it's not just one general thing
21:17.00Monet_It's not a "disease" per se.
21:17.10AeonAlright, infections then, or anything that is not subjective and does not just go away
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21:17.41OluapPlayerBefore I go
21:17.44OluapPlayerHachi__: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57186256/winged_pikmin.png lookit
21:17.46OluapPlayernow ded
21:17.47Hachi__yey
21:18.05Hachi__Ooh yey, winged Pikmin
21:18.17Hachi__They look different to general Pikmin
21:18.19Monet_I'm findin it common, people talk about cancer and hwo it is bad and how it slowly kilsl people, but how widespread is the knowledge of how cancer often starts?
21:18.22GD12Aeon : Modern med isn't much better than alt med at curing Stage IV Cancer
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21:18.57Hachi__This is why I feel that cybernetics and robotics can do much better than any form of medicine, at least on a physical level
21:19.00AeonAlt med does fuck all
21:19.11AeonModern med does things
21:19.24GD12Making hasty generalizations is generlaly a dum path
21:19.28Monet_You're starting t osound like you-know-who.
21:19.29AeonIf it did things that everything alse doesn't, it wouldn't be alt
21:19.38GD12I don't think you can say that ALL Alt Med doesn't work.
21:19.55AeonI can say they are not proven/
21:20.12Monet_"Lab-made chemicals are better than plant extracts or mental well-being"
21:20.26Hachi__My sister has had bad cases of fibromalgia and lupus in the past. Through taking herbal remedies rather than pills and modern medicine, she has not suffered a bad lupus attack for a long while.
21:20.29AeonYou CAN sell plant Extracts
21:20.55Monet_Yeah but not for as much as most pills.
21:21.00AeonIf a plant actually has medicinal qualities it will be used, and if it is not that's because it has been eclipsed by something that does better
21:21.09GD12A pill is a synthesis of lab made chemicals, a plant is a naturally occuring form of that pill, are y ou saying the pill is proven while the plant is not?
21:21.13AeonAloe Vera
21:21.43AeonIf the plant works it should be possible to pass a clinical trial
21:21.54Monet_So you're saying that the stress-releiving lavender extract I add to my bathwater actually does sod-all?
21:22.08AeonScience isn't perfect, but it's the best thing we have in this regard
21:22.31AeonNo
21:22.39AeonIt may well releave stress
21:22.39Hachi__I myself would trust a pure, uncontaminated plant extract rather than use a pill that has the same extract that is added alongside chemicals
21:22.46AeonAnd if it does, you can test for that
21:22.49GD12Again, some plants are naturally occuring forms of said pills
21:23.34AeonHachi__: Have you ever heard the phrase "Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide?"
21:23.42Hachi__No?
21:23.45GD12dum
21:23.47GD12dats water
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21:24.16AeonAnd yet people will consistantly call for it's ban when you ask them to and make it souond really scary
21:24.18Monet_In a sense, chewing on willow bark is as effective and less dangerous than taking an aspirin pill.
21:24.20GD12hi Wormyphone
21:24.40Wormyphonehello im on the whiskey now hur
21:24.44Hachi__It was an asprin that killed Bruce Lee after all, not a plant.
21:24.46GD12hur
21:24.50AeonCall it by that Chemically name, talk about how it kills millions (drowning) a year, how its in everything
21:25.03Wormyphonecant go to scotland and not have whiskey
21:25.04Hachi__Also, you cannot overdose on plant extract.
21:25.14Hachi__Well, most plant extracts.
21:25.15AeonMy point is that chemicals are not intrinsically bad
21:25.29Hachi__Not all chemicals are bad, but not all of them are good
21:25.37AeonHachi__ Bullshit, you can overdose on everything
21:25.41GD12We are all groups of chemicals hur
21:25.45AeonThe dose makes the poisen
21:26.02Hachi__You cannot overdose on alcohol
21:26.03Monet_Most plant extracts are oil-based.
21:26.07AeonYes you can
21:26.18AeonYou can overdose on everything
21:26.18Wormyphoneill have an alcihil overdose by the end of night looololol
21:26.24Hachi__You can get drunk and you can get internal injuries, but you can't overdose on it
21:26.26Aeonat least in theory
21:26.38Monet_Hachi_: Alcohol posioning.
21:26.47Hachi__I wouldn't call that an overdose
21:26.48AeonWe only know certain compounfs as poisin because they kill at lower levels\
21:27.12AeonWater, salt, and anything else has an LD50
21:27.33Wormyphoneeven oxygen id poisonous l9ooooooooool
21:27.34AeonWormyphone: You're gonna back me up here right? Alt med is bullshit right?
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21:27.46Monet_Hehehe
21:27.52Hachi__ohgod wormy
21:28.07Tek0516So I'm close to having a working Sporewiki clock.
21:28.11AeonThe dose makes the poisen, you can be hurt by enough of anything
21:28.12GD12Wormyphone : You sound like a teenage partygirl
21:28.16Wormyphonedepends on thevamount invilvrd
21:28.25Hachi__For some reason, Wormy spells better when he's drunk
21:28.28Wormyphoneright now  im onsuming liver poison
21:28.40Monet_Sory Aeo, Wormy is a supporter of at least some holistic remedies.
21:28.49Wormyphonebut my body wull prevail
21:29.00Tek0516Only problem is my clock prints 2273, even though the time is for 2794...
21:29.00Hachi__Your body is strong and independant
21:29.01Monet_And hes' the one who got me into meditation in the first place.
21:29.29AeonI think meditation does have clinical trials behind it for stress relief
21:29.37WormyphoneI am a supporter of meditation yoga and martial marts as medicine
21:29.44AeonWhat I object to is people saying that it will get rid of cancer
21:29.51GD12Aeon : How about you read some Harvard reports on the effectiveness of altmeds http://www.health.harvard.edu/topic/alternative-medicine
21:29.54Hachi__Never said it will get rid of cancer
21:30.17Monet_It can reduce the risk of cancer.
21:30.32Hachi__It can reduce the risk but not completely prevent it or cure it
21:30.49AeonYes, and hence Meditation is not alt-med when used to do those things
21:31.08AeonIf it works, it is just medacine
21:31.12Hachi__While alt-meds and modern medicine have contributed a lot to the scientific and traditional community, I think nanomachines are the future of medical science
21:31.16Monet_But then again, stress does a lot of things. I have firsthand experienceo f some of the worse effects.
21:31.16Aeonwell, if it is proven to work
21:31.21GD12So you are defining medicien as anything that works
21:31.35Tek0516^
21:31.39AeonLet me define terms
21:31.45Monet_Aeon: How do most forms of cancer emerge?
21:32.09AeonMedicine: A remedy that has been shown to work by science.
21:32.28AeonAlt-Med: A remedy that has NOT been proven to work by science
21:32.44Hachi__But in some cases DOES work
21:33.00GD12that already empirically proves that it does work
21:33.00AeonOr perhaps I should speak of it in terms of acceptance in the scientifc community
21:33.17GD12dum, lots of these pharmecutical tests are rigged
21:33.29AeonGD12: Evidence?
21:33.35GD12You honestly can't trust the science of a money based corporation when they are testing their own product
21:34.06GD12Aeon : Lemme find it, but do you have any evidence that pharmecutical companies are not money driven?
21:34.09Hachi__I myself would not be surprised if pharmecutical companies rig treatments that intentionally cause illness or infection
21:34.10Monet_I've lost count as to how many cosmetic companies test their products on less than 200 people and broadcast the results worldwide.
21:34.31Monet_Sometimes the number is less than 70.
21:34.37AeonGD12: I don't have to prove that it is false, you are asserting it is true
21:35.06AeonHow about you prove that God does not exist, and if you can't, you have to convert
21:35.11GD12Aeon : Proft is the prime incentive of siad companies, don't you think they would do anything to maximize that
21:35.16AeonOr how about you prove I am not an alien
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21:35.26AeonNo
21:35.31Monet_my example I think is pretty solid.
21:35.41Wormyphonea healthy fit strong body and mind would recover better
21:35.45AeonI don't think that they are going to be amoral
21:35.49GD12hur
21:35.55AeonEspecially not when fraud is illegal
21:35.58GD12you have no =understanding of corporate America hur
21:36.03Monet_And i'm not bullshitting either - I've read the smallprint on those adverts.
21:36.13Hachi__Just because fraud is illegal doesn't mean corporations don't do it#
21:36.15Wormyphonei am a skeptic of wster memory though
21:36.22AeonWell I trust peer-reviewed studies
21:36.23Wormyphoneor homeipsthy
21:36.26GD12Corporations aren't the most upstanding moral guardians
21:36.42AeonBut they are regulated
21:36.51Hachi__On whose authority? Their own
21:36.52GD12Bribes and Loopholes bro
21:36.59GD12Lobyists in the FDA
21:37.00GD12etc
21:37.13GD12Corporations ain't noblebright
21:37.15Wormyphoneucorotatuond ude loopholed to make monry
21:37.19GD12more like fokletsmakemoney
21:37.23AeonIf it were actually shown that the scientific community were covering this up, Lynchings would eliminate the need for jail
21:37.37GD12Pharma ain't scientific community
21:37.40AeonLike, if it were shown that they were intentionally keeping us sick
21:37.43Wormyphonecorporations use loopholed to make money
21:37.43GD12Pharma is paid chemists
21:37.45Monet_"70 percent of women enjoy our new product range" is waht msot peopel see. The advertising companies then add "out of 150 people tested" in barely-visible print in small letters in the bottom. They can't be sued because the information was right there on the advert, there jsut wasn't anything against the law abotu making it nigh-invisible.
21:37.47AeonYou
21:37.51GD12Scientific Community dunt do things for money
21:38.26AeonThen why don't they accept alt-med?
21:38.35Wormyphonenor do they get much
21:38.40GD12Have they completely rejevted it?
21:38.40AeonThen why don't they accept alt-med?
21:38.41Monet_Nigh invisible being whate text with grey shading on a white background.
21:38.46AeonYes
21:38.51GD12evidence
21:39.04AeonIt's not used in hospitals
21:39.17Hachi__I believe both Alt-Meds and modern medicine are effective depending on the illnesses or infections, though we should be looking into robotics and nanomachinery.
21:39.21AeonOnly one not covered by that is homeopathy
21:39.25GD12again i point you here http://www.health.harvard.edu/topic/alternative-medicine
21:39.28Aeonand that is only in the US I think
21:39.35Aeon2 papers
21:39.52GD12then read them
21:40.09AeonHere's a fun question, how did THESE get past the conspiracy?
21:40.17GD12cuz Harvard reliable
21:40.19GD12hur
21:40.23AeonDid the Illuminati miss them?
21:40.25GD12and hArvard aint big pharma
21:40.31Wormyphonetest
21:40.43AeonI'm sorry, Pig pharma
21:40.48Monet_The military is a big spender on scientific development, do you think the army brass is going to keep funding some alt-med idea like homeopathy to treat their wounded?
21:41.11Wormyphonemeditation does have testable effects
21:41.32Tek0516Damn it... I messed up my math in here somewhere... I just can't figure out where...
21:41.45GD12Tek0516 : Need help?
21:41.51Wormyphoneso i eouldn't be anti
21:41.58AeonBTW A side note. I know I am being somewhat strong here. I feel strongly about this because of the fact that people can die from taking this stuff when they need real medacine. I'm sorry for any offense
21:41.59GD12The point is its much easier to admit that altmeds have benefits rather than fully saying they are useless
21:42.08GD12Aeon : No problem
21:42.12WormyphoneThr British NHS has an acupuncture branch
21:42.16Hachi__Yes but some people take real medicine and still die
21:42.23GD12^
21:42.24Hachi__Medicine doesn't always work
21:42.29Hachi__It's how your body reacts to it
21:42.29Wormyphoneso its not shit
21:42.33Tek0516Well GD12 I should probably work backwards from the original formula. Except I think I deleted it...
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21:42.40Monet_There's another big reason for why this stuff doesn't alwasy pass: Because when people like the military get boared of an idea they consider a dead end they pull the plug.
21:42.44GD12Tek0516 : hao u do dis
21:42.54Tek0516Nvm, found it.
21:42.57AdmiralPandawhat stuff be this?
21:43.02Wormyphonetest
21:43.08GD12We were talking about how altmeds aint complete bullshit
21:43.09Hachi__Alt-Meds vs Modern Medicine
21:43.11AeonYes, but if these things are bullshit, and people are taking them instaed of medacine that would help them live, preventable deaths are occuring/
21:43.41AdmiralPandaThing is, most modern medicine has its grass roots in old-timey remedies. Not all of them are true, but a lot of them are beneficial
21:43.47Hachi__Some may not prevent death, but some may increase your lifespan.
21:43.51AeonAP PLEASE tell me you don't belive in alt-med?
21:43.54GD12^^
21:44.06AdmiralPandaI believe it all deserves scientific evaluation
21:44.15GD12^^^^^ i mean
21:44.18AdmiralPandaafter all, penecillin came from a bloody moss contamination
21:44.38AeonNote that I'm defining anything that is proven to work as not being alt-med by definitions
21:44.46Wormyphoneand pisitive redults in mrditation acupuncture and qigong have been found
21:44.49Monet_Researchers don't just need to find results, they need to keep the interest up, and that's not easy when the Average Joe has little clue 9thanks to the idiot-box media) of the logic behind it.
21:45.30AdmiralPandayour definition is inherently flawed then
21:45.33Hachi__Frankly I am comfortable with the fact that one day I am going to die and that no matter what treatment I get, it will not stop me from dying. But if alt-med increases my lifespan, then I shall goddamn take it.
21:45.41AdmiralPanda^
21:46.02GD12^^
21:46.16Monet_As shown by Oluap: SOme peopel don't like the idea of acupuncture because they have trouble grasping how sticking needles in certain points on your body relieves tension and stress.
21:46.28AeonAP: If it worked, it'd just be medacine
21:47.01AeonIt's alt because it's not accepted, it's not being accepted means I have no reason to believe it
21:47.08Monet_And even then you have the existence of "bad" acupuncturists who cause noticeable pain during the process even if they're supposed to be good.
21:47.12AeonWell, no good reason
21:47.15Hachi__Aeon: Do you support stem cell research?
21:47.29AeonSome of it
21:47.31Hachi__It's proven to help do remarkable and beneficial things.
21:47.43AeonThat's a red herring Hachi
21:47.45AdmiralPandaThen that's your own problem. Science is in the business of disproval, but not disregard. Imagine if all of science ignored that which was considered unsupported. We'd go nowhere
21:47.48AdmiralPandaan open mind is the key to the future
21:47.56AeonI'm not following you down the false path
21:48.08AdmiralPandaAeon: Stem cell research sure as hell ain't a false path
21:48.12Monet_So suddenly being open-minded is bad?
21:48.13AeonAP: I agree
21:48.27Hachi__Stem cell research is a relatively new science, tbf
21:48.27AdmiralPandathat's what you literally just said you dumb
21:48.45AeonNo, with your last statement
21:48.52AdmiralPandayou just told Hachi it was a red herring and a false path, and then contradicted yourself
21:48.55AeonYou people are typing too damn fast
21:49.02Hachi__I HAVE MAGIC HANDS
21:49.03AeonNo
21:49.14AeonIt's a false path because it's not relavent
21:49.20Aeonto this dicusscion
21:49.29AdmiralPandayou have really bad phrasing then
21:49.39AeonI then agreed with another thing you said befroe you typed about stem cells
21:49.50Aeonbut you type too fast
21:49.51GD12This argument is honestly getting nowhere.
21:50.05AdmiralPandathat open-mindedness is essential to development? you've been talking from a close-minded point the whole time
21:50.12AdmiralPandaI'm done with this, you're silly, good morning
21:50.21Monet_Thank wohever I live in a country with a nationalised health service.
21:50.33AdmiralPanda^
21:50.39Hachi__^^
21:50.40AeonOur mind should be like a filter
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21:50.50Hachi__It's thanks to NHS that I'm still around.
21:51.06Hachi__I think we need to stop focussing on improving current medacines and look towards new strategies
21:51.07Wormyphonehello
21:51.13Hachi__Like stem cell research and nanomachines
21:51.27AeonWe should be open to new possibilities, but we should not accept them until they are more than thst
21:51.42Monet_There could eb a whole range of potential antibiotics in crocodile blood.
21:51.54Hachi__That sounds epic
21:51.58AdmiralPandaikr?
21:52.09AdmiralPandafor all we know, the cure for cancer is in the middle of a rainforest somewhere
21:52.14Wormyphonethe infant mortality rate in the UK is loerr than in the zzzUS
21:52.15AeonJust like a filter lets anything get in on the top, but only lets some things pass through
21:52.17Wormyphonei lile gene therspy
21:52.27Hachi__Drink crocodile blood, get physically better in moments
21:52.32AdmiralPandalul, get up to heaven, St. Pete says "you destroyed the cure for cancer, see ya later"
21:52.40Hachi__ohgod
21:52.43AeonAdmiralPanda Indeed, and for all we know (INSERT ALMOST ANYTHING HERE)
21:52.44Hachi__No pun intended
21:52.54AdmiralPanda"Try my Falmerblood Elixer, only 20 septims"
21:53.02Hachi__ohgodlol
21:53.05AdmiralPandaAeon: What you're saying is we shouldn't try. Stop talking.
21:53.12GD12hur
21:54.30AeonNo
21:54.31Tek0516I know I found a simpler version of this formula... why can't I remember it...
21:54.42Monet_Thou hath wandered into the world of nerds, science buffs and ameteur scientists. Thou hath been warned.
21:54.50Hachi__Baby formula is yumyums
21:54.54AeonWe should give anything a chance to prove itself, but only accept that which actually does
21:55.07AdmiralPandaAeon, just stop talking while I still have a mornign to enjoy
21:55.51AeonWhatever, just do me a favor guys, and don't just get the altmed when a mainstream treatment exists
21:55.56Wormyphone<PROTECTED>
21:56.06MonetAwayAeon: Too late.
21:56.18Wormyphonesome midern medicines are certainly dangerous
21:56.30AeonBy which I mean ALSO take the mainstream medacine
21:56.49Hachi__Zazane don't take medicine anymore, their bodies are ran like organic machines.
21:57.06AdmiralPandaAeon, I would have killed myself three months ago if it weren't for two sessions of meditation. SHUT UP
21:58.37Hachi__Zazane unintentionally contrast Theians. Theians use machines that behave almost organically, Zazane use organic properties which act almost in a machine way.
22:01.09Hachi__Zazane can regenerate limbs and organs entirely in less than a year and they have their own natural fail-safe mechanism.
22:02.56Hachi__This is because they have exposed themselves to conditions that would certainly kill ordinary people and through sheer willpower overcame them.
22:03.24Hachi__It's mental conditioning that beneficially affects their bodies.
22:04.57Hachi__Did Fordanta evolve in a similar way, Panda?
22:05.48Tek0516No wonder my result was wrong... my formula wasn't even close.
22:07.32Tek0516Oh... I got my +/- wrong....
22:08.25AdmiralPandaFordanta evolved by absorbing genetic traits from their prey, then integrating those traits into the gene pool
22:08.47AdmiralPandaa sort of modified natural selection
22:08.50Hachi__Oh, so they evolved Kroot style
22:08.52GD12Drakodominatus evolved into Dominatus by, well you know
22:08.59AdmiralPandayeah
22:09.16AdmiralPandawhat's funny is I came up with that way before I even knew the Kroot existed
22:09.33GD12OP evolution = allow Dominatus to breed fast
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22:11.39AdmiralPanda_I have returned, on the not-so-shitty uni internet as opposed to my phone
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22:13.01Hachi__AdmiralPanda_: It's funny you mention that, I designed Hachi to be short with cyber implants before I knew Edward Elric existed hur
22:13.21AdmiralPanda_Iunno, short cyborg is pretty general
22:13.36MonetToo abd this conversation ended, I have a great anecdote in support of altmed.
22:14.18AdmiralPanda_good thing this conversation ended
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22:14.44Wormyphonehi
22:15.00Monetmeh, it's a nice story anyway, I think it changed my life.
22:15.50MonetRemember this "was constipated adn Gp reccomended laxativea" commet I made?
22:16.52MonetWhat I didn't mention was that before the appointment I was drinking this mix of aloe vera and cranberry juice to help my condition and the GP had reccomended a more poerful laxative.
22:17.06Liquid_InkWormy!
22:17.52Wormyphonehello liquid
22:18.02Wormyphonei dont recall
22:18.09MonetRather than following her advice I changed my diet. I regularly eat dried cranberiies and diced papaya, i'm still on the aloe vera juice, I massage mylarge intestine regularly and I. Feel. Great.
22:18.17Liquid_InkYou don't recall?
22:18.51MonetOh and cranbeery and raspberry juice has become one of my favourite types of drink.
22:19.16Wormyphonealoe veta iid proven to be good
22:19.25Wormyphonevers
22:19.26Wormyphoneera
22:19.29Wormyphonecers
22:19.51Wormyphoneohgod i should stop
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22:20.02Wormyphonei
22:20.07DrodoEmpireHerro everyone
22:20.13Wormyphonehi
22:20.45MonetIt's official. Wormy, you are drunk.
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22:21.21FlashfireAfternoon, glorious terrans
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22:21.45Wormyphonethen i have spent my money well
22:21.57Darkwarrior101hi
22:22.11FlashfireHey DW
22:22.13GD12Hello
22:22.22GD12Wormyphone : Yes you are drunk
22:22.33AdmiralPanda_hi flash
22:23.14Wormyphone12 year mslt whiskey
22:23.25AdmiralPanda_good?
22:23.37GD12malt even
22:23.48Wormyphoneaye
22:23.57Wormyphonesmooth
22:24.11Wormyphonei aldi had some pin
22:24.15Wormyphonepintd
22:24.38Wormyphoneoh yoy get what i mean
22:25.35GD12wormytehdrunk
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22:26.14MecharicHello
22:26.18Flashfireso children
22:26.24FlashfireIs anyone up for rp
22:26.27Flashfireand Hi mech
22:26.32Flashfirepraise the god emperor
22:27.03DrodoEmpireHmm...
22:27.09DrodoEmpireOf what variety.
22:27.12DrodoEmpire*?
22:27.25DrodoEmpireLet's discuss this on #Spore
22:27.41R17For the glory of the Emperor and the Golden Throne of Terra
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22:28.12Flashfiredrodo what
22:28.12Wormyphone_my touchsvreen pad is tiny too
22:28.14Hachi__lol silly corpse-followers
22:28.27DrodoEmpireClick #Spore :P
22:28.28FlashfireThe God Emperor of Mankind is still alive and well, swine
22:28.37DrodoEmpireor type "/join #Spore"
22:28.41GD12im having a noncanon rp with Hachi nao and school soon so no arpee for me
22:28.47R17actually
22:28.53R17FOR THE DARK GODS
22:28.53Wormyphone_i like this Flashfire
22:29.02DrodoEmpireyesh
22:29.09FlashfireI'm imitating an Inquisitor if you don't know.
22:29.28R17it's great to know another person who knows and/or likes 40k, Flashfire.
22:29.35Wormyphone_For the EMPRAH!!""
22:29.46FlashfireGod Emperor is pretty much a skeleton, and when they run out of Psykers he'll die faster than Mr. House from Fallout
22:30.10Wormyphone_lol
22:30.34R17yep
22:30.41R17they have to feed him 1000 Psykers erry'day
22:30.51AdmiralPanda_I let house die by microbial contamination
22:30.54AdmiralPanda_dat was fun
22:32.07FlashfireI just shot him
22:32.15FlashfireI wanted to see the life drain from his eye sockets
22:32.55Wormyphone_who has to clean the EMPRAH?
22:32.58MonetEw
22:33.22MonetWormyphone: The Adeptus Janetores.
22:33.24Wormyphone_trololol
22:33.27MonetJanitores*
22:33.40Wormyphone_indeed lol
22:33.54FlashfireOUR EMPRAH DOES NOT SWEAT
22:34.01FlashfireHE ONLY BLEEDS FOR THE GOOD OF THE RACE
22:34.25GD12hur
22:34.31GD12his discharge becomes psybolts iirc
22:34.34Wormyphone_lol
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22:35.13Wormyphone_hello
22:35.19TybusenHai
22:35.26MonetHi
22:35.39TybusenIs it bad that I understand about 99% of the Pikmin references in Distant Planet
22:35.52Hachi__Nope
22:35.58Hachi__It's inspired and based on Pikmik
22:35.58Wormyphone_not at all
22:36.01Hachi__Pikmin*
22:36.18TybusenStill
22:36.22Tybuseneven two of the chapters
22:36.25Tybusentheir names
22:36.26Tybusengoddammit
22:37.05Wormyphone_youll be dreaming of picmin
22:37.26Flashfirewhat is pikmin
22:37.26Hachi__Wormy do you even know what a Pikmin is? XD
22:37.37Wormyphone_no hur
22:38.00Hachi__Cute plantimal thing made by Nintendo
22:38.13Wormyphone_well all i know is thsy yiu have to gyide lickle critters and pick sttuff uop
22:38.14TybusenI've finally found people who know as much about Pikmin as I do
22:38.19GD12brb
22:39.20TybusenThe main reason I'm going to buy a Wii U is Pikmin 3.
22:39.37Hachi__Yes, same reason here actually
22:40.45Wormyphone_trst
22:41.18DrodoEmpire*test
22:41.40TybusenI see references to Red, Blue, Yellow, and Purple Pikmin, Bulborbs, Beady and Raging Long Legs, Breadbugs...
22:41.54TybusenI can't entirely tell what that is behind the Purple Mikmiks, though
22:42.51AdmiralPanda_huh, my ore processor in minecraft just extracted some trace gold from copper ore
22:43.49MonetI was quite surprised at how one of them cold lift up Sarec.
22:44.19TybusenThe Mikmiks?
22:44.22MonetIt would have been like Hulk Hogan lifting a fat bull all on his own.
22:44.55TybusenProbably a reference to how Pikmin can carry Olimar in the games.
22:45.27MonetUnliek Hachi or Oluap, I don't play Pikmin.
22:46.01MecharicSo, can 591 farming systems support 327 city systems do you think?
22:47.05TybusenMonet
22:47.09TybusenYou need to play Pikmin
22:47.11TybusenNao
22:47.17MonetMacharicc: Why does it need to be so dividable?
22:47.29MonetI was more of a Sony person than Nintendo.
22:47.59MecharicBecayse the Kollective prefers to live in cities, they are ubersocial. They also feel it is  economically profitable to house more people in less space.
22:48.35MonetSo...no smal lcommunities? No rural communities?
22:48.43FlashfireHive Worlds
22:48.49FlashfireAnd only Hive Worlds.
22:49.01MecharicThe closest thing to a rural community they have is around a billion people in an asteroid-belt city
22:49.06MonetProbably not the est idea socially.
22:49.13MonetOr logistically.
22:49.32MonetWhathappens if a polanet is blockaded?
22:49.45Moneturban planet*
22:50.26MecharicYou would need to blockade the entire system, they don't like planetside living. The majority of the pop lives in either space stations, moon colonies, or asteroid belts.
22:50.52AdmiralPanda_ISF - Someone called?
22:50.54MecharicAnd in such a scenario they would all hop in a ship and start shooting/running.
22:50.55Monet...S owait what do you do with the planets?
22:51.10MecharicPlanets = Farming Areas and Mining Areas
22:51.23Mecharicbasically just the resources, other then that they dislike plants alltogether.
22:51.29Mecharicplanet*
22:51.34Mecharicplanets*
22:51.45MonetI'm confused I thought you wanted continent-spanning cities?
22:51.52MecharicNo, never
22:52.03MecharicThey certainly have planet-side cities
22:52.11Mecharicbut prefer space living over planet living
22:53.14MecharicAlthough, a planet city would be a cool way for a species to say "We're so confident we can feed this city that we actually made it."
22:54.02MonetAlcanti and Araveene have loopholes to the food problem.
22:54.11MonetFarms IN cities.
22:54.36MecharicMy guys do that too, but the farms only produce 1/5th or so of what the system demans
22:54.46Mecharicthe other 4/5ths comes from the farming systems
22:55.11AdmiralPanda_Fordanta don't really farm
22:55.30AdmiralPanda_they have animal farms, sure, but they're generally better known as a forest
22:55.38Mechariclol
22:56.14Mecharicftr, the Collective uses  very advanced compact farming, as they want as much as possible from anything they do (greedy bastards)
22:56.18TybusenFordanta - We don't need farms, when we want to eat we'll go into the wilderness and hunt it down ourselves
22:56.41MecharicAttacker - And we drop this asteroid here on that pretty little forest...
22:57.05TybusenFordanta - YOU BASTARDS!
22:57.18MecharicAttacker - Yes, yes we are. Greedy ones too.
22:57.56MecharicNow, here's a question, how useful would dropping asteroids on enemy planets actually  be?
22:58.07DrodoEmpireDepends.
22:58.22MecharicI mean, some species just snicker and bat the bugger aside like the Zeelee defelcting stars
22:58.22DrodoEmpireIf they have planetary shielding worth two shits then not very.
22:58.25TybusenWell, for the answer, we go to our friends the dinosaurs.
22:58.29Mechariclol
22:58.52DrodoEmpireBut if its not shielded, then incredibly dangerous, and ammo-efficient
22:59.01AdmiralPanda_Here's a better version:
22:59.04MecharicHmmmz, does building lots of small things = one large thing?
22:59.09MonetWell if we're talking an asteroid with billions of peopel on it, think the Yucatan asteroid only bigger.
22:59.17AdmiralPanda_Fordanta - Huh. That's a meteor. *boomb* Huh. That's an enemy ship. Board and kill.
22:59.42TybusenIf you drop an asteroid on to any unshielded part of a planet, it'll kick up so much debris that it'll at least disrupt the agriculture on the planet.
22:59.45MecharicAn asteroid with billions of people on it what huh?
23:00.14Mecharic_Dinner-_-
23:00.17TybusenThough with a modernized space society food is hardly a problem.
23:00.21Mecharic_DinnerI shalt be bachk
23:00.33MonetA mAnhattan-sized asteroid is enough to cause a catastophe like what happened 65mya
23:01.11TybusenAn asteroid is a deadly environmental weapon if you can get it to hit an unshielded part of the planet without getting shot down.
23:01.57TybusenIt might not kill any of the planet's citizens but it'll certainly leave the ecosystem in a sorry state if it's not cleared up.
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23:16.49Hachi__brb
23:52.42Monettest
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23:55.38MecharicHello

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