| 00:00.02 | DrodoEmpire | And still have some control over there military, too. |
| 00:00.24 | DrodoEmpire | Or else thy couldn't do anything in the serpentaxy-Q grox war. |
| 00:00.28 | DrodoEmpire | *they |
| 00:00.57 | Zmr56 | Well if the Drodo ally with the Rambo |
| 00:01.24 | Zmr56 | Then the Comet Republic have to be careful |
| 00:01.31 | DrodoEmpire | Exactly, |
| 00:01.50 | DrodoEmpire | a strong ally. |
| 00:02.04 | Zmr56 | I ally with the Tyranny after the war I guess |
| 00:02.15 | Zmr56 | Then Drodo come in |
| 00:02.27 | Zmr56 | Do tug of War |
| 00:02.45 | Zmr56 | Drodo ally with Rambo |
| 00:03.05 | Zmr56 | AGC and Rambo can't attack eachother |
| 00:03.34 | Zmr56 | So truce between Drodo and Comet Republic |
| 00:04.16 | DrodoEmpire | I might consider getting a alliance with the Republic Remnant, and maybe the Empire. |
| 00:04.37 | Zmr56 | That would be tricky |
| 00:04.49 | DrodoEmpire | Could be, |
| 00:05.03 | DrodoEmpire | the Empire would probably be just tactical, |
| 00:05.33 | DrodoEmpire | dropping them if they attack any other ally. |
| 00:05.47 | DrodoEmpire | Just some extra muscle if needed. |
| 00:06.19 | Zmr56 | Republic Remment are kinda wandering about |
| 00:06.33 | Zmr56 | And Grox close by |
| 00:06.48 | DrodoEmpire | Ya, |
| 00:08.41 | Zmr56 | We need to see what Dino, GD12 and the guys from the AGC say about this |
| 00:11.13 | Zmr56 | Test |
| 00:11.43 | Zmr56 | It needs a name |
| 00:13.21 | Zmr56 | imma go now, bai |
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| 09:25.49 | R17 | Herro peopre |
| 09:27.45 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 09:29.24 | R17 | Herro.* |
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| 09:49.22 | R17 | Herro |
| 09:49.48 | R17 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctppa-a0LrA Show this to Catface when he shows up just in case I leave before he does. |
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| 10:09.02 | AdmiralPanda | Hi |
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| 10:19.16 | Liquid_Ink | Merry Christmas! |
| 10:19.23 | AdmiralPanda | Meep? |
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| 10:56.59 | GreatDestroyer12 | hello all |
| 10:57.06 | GreatDestroyer12 | hello amunak |
| 10:59.58 | GreatDestroyer12 | ~seen Wormy |
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| 11:02.16 | Wormy | hi |
| 11:02.57 | Liquid_Ink | Hello Wormy. |
| 11:03.08 | Liquid_Ink | Is it true that it's the truth? |
| 11:03.38 | GreatDestroyer12 | hello |
| 11:03.38 | Wormy | There is no truth |
| 11:03.46 | GreatDestroyer12 | nothing is true, everything is permitted |
| 11:04.12 | GreatDestroyer12 | test |
| 11:04.36 | GreatDestroyer12 | test |
| 11:04.47 | Wormy | confirmed |
| 11:04.57 | Liquid_Ink | falsified |
| 11:05.17 | Wormy | I was tired yesterday so I couldn't write that section |
| 11:05.48 | GreatDestroyer12 | no prob |
| 11:05.56 | GreatDestroyer12 | is this referring to Exodium's next move |
| 11:07.39 | GreatDestroyer12 | test |
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| 11:12.11 | GreatDestroyer12 | hello |
| 11:17.35 | Wormy | Captain Picard can't pronounce Barclay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDUAtf9JLXY&feature=related |
| 11:21.37 | R17 | I want to play the SCP games, should I? |
| 11:21.51 | R17 | (only the people who know SCP should answer my question) |
| 11:25.42 | GreatDestroyer12 | ~seen lordbishop |
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| 11:31.01 | Ghel | Hello. |
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| 11:31.57 | GreatDestroyer12 | wormy, whats a topological defect? |
| 11:32.42 | Liquid_Ink | A defect in topology. |
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| 11:33.06 | GreatDestroyer12 | like is it just a giant derpface in the surface of an area? |
| 11:33.29 | Wormy__ | Theres a depface in my internet |
| 11:34.19 | Liquid_Ink | Loom at the username list. |
| 11:34.19 | GreatDestroyer12 | in addition is hyperspace just space with a higher amount of dimesniosn? |
| 11:34.21 | Liquid_Ink | *look |
| 11:35.42 | GreatDestroyer12 | test |
| 11:36.32 | Ghel | GD12: Pretty much, yes. Hyperspace includes microscopic extra dimensions along with the four macroscopic dimensions of "realspace". |
| 11:38.18 | GreatDestroyer12 | could you elaborate on these microscopic extra dimensions? |
| 11:39.52 | Wormy__ | We based the idea on something called M-theory. |
| 11:40.08 | GreatDestroyer12 | ahh m theory |
| 11:40.09 | GreatDestroyer12 | i see |
| 11:40.27 | Ghel | I can't think of what there is really to elaborate on. |
| 11:40.37 | GreatDestroyer12 | k so it's m theory |
| 11:40.45 | GreatDestroyer12 | i get it now, thanks guys |
| 11:40.46 | Wormy__ | The idea is that matter is confined to a 3+1 dimensional brane which could be part of an extra structure. |
| 11:40.51 | Ghel | Not exactly, but M-theory also includes extra dimensions. |
| 11:41.34 | Ghel | Really, it just allows us to have justified FTL travel in the SporeWikiverse. :P |
| 11:41.41 | GreatDestroyer12 | awesome |
| 11:41.42 | GreatDestroyer12 | haha |
| 11:41.46 | Wormy__ | Before the Big Bang, perhaps the universe was a pure symmetry, and maybe it was 11 dimensional. But as inflation occured, the process sped up by the fact larger dimensions shrunk while smaller ones remained open. |
| 11:42.03 | GreatDestroyer12 | im just tyring to find a way to apply mathematical topology to some hyperspace related tyranny tech |
| 11:42.36 | Wormy__ | Stephen Baxter has the coolest description of a hyperdrive: |
| 11:43.08 | OluapWorker | http://i.imgur.com/JG8Tk.png |
| 11:44.41 | Wormy__ | I can't be bothered to copy and paste but wormholes, warp drives, hyperdrives and SUSYdrive is mentioned here, as well as cosmic-string time travel :P http://bluwiki.com/go/Xeelee |
| 11:45.31 | Wormy__ | Physics seem very open for tech in the series, only imagination is the limit. Hence there are handful of ways to achieve FTL |
| 11:46.13 | GreatDestroyer12 | is it k if i psot my ideas for a device here? |
| 11:46.57 | Ghel | I don't see why not. |
| 11:47.16 | GreatDestroyer12 | k |
| 11:47.34 | GreatDestroyer12 | one sec |
| 11:49.29 | GreatDestroyer12 | basically it is about making a simulation of hyperspace as first off all a euclidean space |
| 11:49.49 | GreatDestroyer12 | i mean realspace |
| 11:50.36 | GreatDestroyer12 | however it then treats hyperspace as a pseudo euclidean space (non-zero vectors with zero magnitude, and also vectors with negative magnitude) |
| 11:50.41 | GreatDestroyer12 | due to the increase in dimensions |
| 11:51.06 | GreatDestroyer12 | and using something somewhat related to the Poincaré conjecture it does some derp calculations |
| 11:51.52 | GreatDestroyer12 | and then treats every point in the hyperspatial thing with whatvever amount of characteristics |
| 11:51.59 | Wormy__ | What would be the physical effects? I'm guessing a negative magnitude is analagous to reversing the roles of space and time like in a rotating black hole? |
| 11:52.04 | GreatDestroyer12 | just wait |
| 11:52.06 | GreatDestroyer12 | im getting to that point |
| 11:52.34 | GreatDestroyer12 | and yes that is one of the applications |
| 11:53.03 | GreatDestroyer12 | however, i was thinking that it would give off something that through some derp magic cancels out each point on the graph |
| 11:53.20 | GreatDestroyer12 | and this is implemented through something like a fourier inverse |
| 11:53.22 | GreatDestroyer12 | then boomb |
| 11:53.27 | GreatDestroyer12 | the point in hyperspace dissapears |
| 11:53.37 | GreatDestroyer12 | and can be applied en masse |
| 11:53.43 | GreatDestroyer12 | however it takes shitloads of energy |
| 11:53.43 | Wormy__ | http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/bhtalk_07/inflation.html |
| 11:53.46 | GreatDestroyer12 | more than its worth |
| 11:54.19 | Ghel | We've always thought of it as being that the three dimensions of "realspace" are folded up while the extra dimensions are not. |
| 11:55.22 | GreatDestroyer12 | i think ill introduce that tech at some point in the great hyperspace war |
| 11:55.27 | GreatDestroyer12 | albeit in a super duper prototype form |
| 11:56.08 | GreatDestroyer12 | it will probably jam and fail though |
| 11:56.09 | GreatDestroyer12 | haha |
| 11:56.43 | Ghel | So, what exactly is this? A hyperspace-destroying weapon? Currently, you've just described it in terms of a hyperspace simulation. |
| 11:56.59 | GreatDestroyer12 | oh ya |
| 11:57.02 | GreatDestroyer12 | i forgot the crux of it |
| 11:57.26 | GreatDestroyer12 | it then uses the data given to fire out particles that only exist to some extent within certain implications of dimensions of hyperspace or whatanot |
| 11:57.48 | GreatDestroyer12 | well not fire out so much as to replace the preexisting ones with these new particles |
| 11:57.56 | GreatDestroyer12 | and boom |
| 11:58.02 | GreatDestroyer12 | the particles cancel each other out |
| 11:58.02 | GreatDestroyer12 | ded |
| 11:58.48 | Ghel | It sounds like a very precise hypermatter radiation weapon. |
| 11:59.26 | GreatDestroyer12 | the thing is that the properties of the matter and such are not factors within this, nor the dimension in which the object resides |
| 11:59.28 | GreatDestroyer12 | its bewm |
| 11:59.29 | GreatDestroyer12 | period |
| 11:59.42 | GreatDestroyer12 | for a commensurate amount of energy of course |
| 12:00.18 | GreatDestroyer12 | the derpfaic thing is that it would take the same amount of energy to destroy paper in hyperspace as a piece of neutronoium the equvialent size |
| 12:01.18 | Ghel | So, dealing with the physics of the device (rather than the mathematics of hyperspace), what you've said is that it fires out particles to cancel out other particles, then that causes destruction? |
| 12:01.29 | Wormy__ | This sounds like hypermatter to me, although it is potentially more of a technical explanation we could use. |
| 12:01.29 | GreatDestroyer12 | yup |
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| 12:01.49 | GreatDestroyer12 | hello panda |
| 12:01.52 | AdmiralPanda | Hi |
| 12:01.55 | Ghel | I think you've got your mathematical explanations better sorted out than your physical ones. :P |
| 12:01.56 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 12:01.59 | Wormy__ | Does this matter have negative mass? |
| 12:02.12 | AdmiralPanda | Wut's this about? |
| 12:02.24 | Ghel | GD12's idea for a new hyperspace weapon. |
| 12:02.36 | Wormy__ | It reminds me of the "nullification" process when matter and negtative matter occupy the same space |
| 12:02.38 | GreatDestroyer12 | yup that relates with the pseudo euclidean space thing |
| 12:03.03 | GreatDestroyer12 | negative magnitude |
| 12:03.04 | Wormy__ | "Forward also coined a term, "nullification" to describe what happens when ordinary matter and negative matter meet: they are expected to be able to "cancel-out" or "nullify" each other's existence. An interaction between equal quantities of positive and negative mass matter would release no energy, but since the only configuration of such particles which has zero momentum (both particles moving with the same velocity in the same |
| 12:03.27 | Wormy__ | a collision, all such interactions would leave a surplus of momentum, which is classically forbidden." |
| 12:03.31 | AdmiralPanda | There's still a redlink to the initiation paeg on the main paeg -.- |
| 12:03.36 | Ghel | That first part cuts off for me at "same velocity in the same". |
| 12:03.40 | GreatDestroyer12 | this would be such that if you look at the topological map of the hyperspace |
| 12:03.59 | GreatDestroyer12 | that you would see a giant nothingness in whatever point was touched |
| 12:04.08 | Wormy__ | Hang on |
| 12:04.08 | AdmiralPanda | Ghel: There's still a redlink to the initiation paeg on the main paeg -.- |
| 12:04.12 | Ghel | AdmiralPanda: Go fix it then. :P |
| 12:04.16 | Wormy__ | "Forward also coined a term, "nullification" to describe what happens when ordinary matter and negative matter meet: they are expected to be able to "cancel-out" or "nullify" each other's existence. An interaction between equal quantities of positive and negative mass matter would release no energy, but since the only configuration of such particles which has zero momentum (both particles moving with the same velocity in the same |
| 12:04.28 | AdmiralPanda | Yeah funny, I can't edit that page. |
| 12:04.30 | GreatDestroyer12 | the hard thing here is the sensors |
| 12:04.37 | Wormy__ | direction) does not produce a all such interactions would leave a surplus of momentum, which is classically forbidden." |
| 12:05.06 | Ghel | Oh, right. I think we'll wait to fix it when we've got everything else sorted. It would help if decisions on this wiki didn't seem to take several weeks to make. |
| 12:05.15 | Wormy__ | That provides a problem we discussed before actually. |
| 12:05.26 | GreatDestroyer12 | classical mechanics can be circumvented by the properties of each dimension |
| 12:05.44 | Ghel | The dimensions are just dimensions. Nothing more. |
| 12:06.14 | AdmiralPanda | I need dum buni and dum dwagon |
| 12:06.17 | GreatDestroyer12 | the manipulation of a three dimensional dimension is different to the manipulation of a two dimensional dimension |
| 12:06.37 | OluapWorker | http://i.imgur.com/O8K1j.jpg I want one of this |
| 12:06.58 | Ghel | Ah, are you using the word "dimension" as "universe" as synonyms, as well as using "dimension" to refer to "dimension"? |
| 12:07.02 | Wormy__ | The problem was a surplus of momentum without any energy. |
| 12:07.11 | GreatDestroyer12 | i use dimension to mean dimensional space |
| 12:07.17 | Wormy__ | or something |
| 12:07.26 | GreatDestroyer12 | hmm lets solve wormys problem |
| 12:07.27 | Ghel | Close enough, but it's still confusing. |
| 12:07.33 | Ghel | And Wormy, yes, that is the problem. |
| 12:07.52 | GreatDestroyer12 | why would there be momentum? |
| 12:08.04 | Ghel | I'll explain. |
| 12:08.05 | AdmiralPanda | And this discussion is why I stopped liking Wormy's fiction |
| 12:08.14 | Wormy__ | The trouble is there are lots of definitions of dimension. Thats the thing about maths, it goes off on tangents and doesn't necessarily describe the real world |
| 12:08.31 | AdmiralPanda | ^And that's why I don't like pure mathematicians |
| 12:08.59 | GreatDestroyer12 | lol everything i popped in except the fourier inverse was pure math haha |
| 12:09.14 | GreatDestroyer12 | well the thing is the points/particles are replaced |
| 12:10.01 | Ghel | Are you suggesting directly replacing positive mass with negative mass? |
| 12:10.13 | GreatDestroyer12 | i guess |
| 12:10.38 | Wormy__ | There's fractal dimensions, Hausdorff dimensions, spectral dimensions as well as the integar dimensions discussed |
| 12:10.39 | Ghel | So do they just get swapped around, with a load of positive mass dumped into realspace and a load of negative mass dumped into hyperspace? |
| 12:10.51 | GreatDestroyer12 | no |
| 12:11.15 | Ghel | So does the positive mass simply disappear, and negative mass simply appear? |
| 12:11.23 | GreatDestroyer12 | the things in hyperspace just get replaced with things of the inverse characteristic |
| 12:11.34 | Ghel | So violating conservation laws? |
| 12:11.36 | Wormy__ | Is it a transformation like supersymmetry? Or a collision of the two when they occupy the same space? |
| 12:11.42 | GreatDestroyer12 | oh damn, conservation of mass now |
| 12:11.52 | Wormy__ | If its a collision only nullification will occur |
| 12:12.11 | Ghel | Wormy__: "Dimension" has a precise definition; the problem is when people use it to refer to universes, or n-dimensional spaces, etc. |
| 12:12.23 | GreatDestroyer12 | oh well its a while till ill actually implement this |
| 12:12.24 | GreatDestroyer12 | il lthink |
| 12:12.34 | Ghel | To explain the nullification problem: |
| 12:12.50 | Ghel | Consider that the momentum of a particle is defined as being proportional the mass. Imagine you have a positive mass and a negative mass travelling in opposite directions, with the direction in which the positive mass is travelling being assigned the positive direction. |
| 12:13.03 | GreatDestroyer12 | collision |
| 12:13.06 | Wormy__ | And vise versa |
| 12:13.27 | GreatDestroyer12 | Ghelae, continue? |
| 12:13.41 | Ghel | The positive-mass particle has a positive mass and a positive velocity, so it has a positive momentum. The negative-mass particle has a negative mass and a negative velocity, so it also has a positive momentum. |
| 12:14.32 | Ghel | If the two particles have an equal magnitudes of mass and velocity, and they are on a collision course, when they collide, the positive and negative energies will cancel out, but there is a positive momentum remaining. |
| 12:14.44 | GreatDestroyer12 | oh shit |
| 12:14.44 | GreatDestroyer12 | impossibru |
| 12:15.51 | Ghel | I think, with a bit of generalisation, the same argument might also forbid the production of pairs of oppositely-massed particle pairs, but I'm not so sure about that. |
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| 12:16.22 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 12:16.24 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 12:16.50 | Ghel | Ah, yes, I think I see what I was thinking of. |
| 12:20.16 | Ghel | AFAIK, it's always possible to find a rest frame between two particles travelling in different directions where you can view them as travelling in only a single dimension, both away from you in opposite directions. |
| 12:20.39 | Ghel | I can't really verbalise an explanation for this right now, but it should be clear if you think about it. It basically involves travelling in the rest frame that is the mean of the two particles' rest frames. |
| 12:21.04 | Ghel | In that case, you have a scenario like the one I described earlier, although the particles are not on a collision course. |
| 12:21.17 | Ghel | Still, the net energy of the system adds to zero, while there is still net momentum. |
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| 12:21.28 | GreatDestroyer12 | my internet derped out |
| 12:21.31 | GreatDestroyer12 | what did i miss |
| 12:21.32 | Ghel | I'll just repeat what I just said for you. |
| 12:21.35 | Ghel | AFAIK, it's always possible to find a rest frame between two particles travelling in different directions where you can view them as travelling in only a single dimension, both away from you in opposite directions. |
| 12:21.37 | Ghel | I can't really verbalise an explanation for this right now, but it should be clear if you think about it. It basically involves travelling in the rest frame that is the mean of the two particles' rest frames. |
| 12:21.41 | Ghel | In that case, you have a scenario like the one I described earlier, although the particles are not on a collision course. |
| 12:21.45 | Ghel | Still, the net energy of the system adds to zero, while there is still net momentum. |
| 12:22.06 | GreatDestroyer12 | i see |
| 12:22.13 | GreatDestroyer12 | ill find a way around it when i implement it |
| 12:22.33 | GreatDestroyer12 | lol wormy this is why i made one of my characters for hyperspace a mathematician |
| 12:22.34 | Ghel | We just use "subspace compression waves", which are also incredibly destructive. :P |
| 12:22.47 | GreatDestroyer12 | what exactly is a subspace compression wave |
| 12:23.05 | Wormy__ | http://everything2.com/title/Gridfire |
| 12:23.13 | Wormy__ | Cheap amd easy description |
| 12:23.45 | GreatDestroyer12 | when we iron this out ill add it to the prototype weapons technology page of the tyranny |
| 12:25.15 | GreatDestroyer12 | test |
| 12:25.29 | Wormy__ | AdmiralPanda: The King becomes a brony http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEvEeN8mhek&feature=related |
| 12:28.45 | Wormy__ | I wonder in a 100 years time negative mass will seem as qaint as the Victorian concept of a brick spaceship fired out of a cannon |
| 12:28.52 | GreatDestroyer12 | im pretty sure the only thing that would be able to resist my theoretical weapon is an essence based defense |
| 12:28.59 | GreatDestroyer12 | true wormy |
| 12:29.00 | Ghel | It seems that quaint to me now, Wormy. :P |
| 12:29.07 | GreatDestroyer12 | what we thought it 1912 |
| 12:29.12 | GreatDestroyer12 | what well think in 2112 |
| 12:29.32 | Ghel | I'm trying to work out a way of messing with the equations to get negative mass to work, however. |
| 12:30.10 | GreatDestroyer12 | im also thiking of applying quantum emulsifiers to some tech |
| 12:31.12 | Wormy__ | Enlighten me |
| 12:31.22 | GreatDestroyer12 | well take for example milk |
| 12:31.26 | Wormy__ | On a quantum emulsifier |
| 12:31.55 | GreatDestroyer12 | wait brb |
| 12:32.00 | GreatDestroyer12 | need to get some water |
| 12:32.49 | Wormy__ | Are we talking about quantum chemistry? |
| 12:32.57 | GreatDestroyer12 | um ya |
| 12:33.01 | Jepardi | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/5333602_460s.jpg |
| 12:33.31 | GreatDestroyer12 | well continuing on the example of milk |
| 12:33.42 | GreatDestroyer12 | oh wait its on the nanoscale |
| 12:33.45 | GreatDestroyer12 | and its called emulsions |
| 12:33.47 | GreatDestroyer12 | sorry |
| 12:33.48 | GreatDestroyer12 | haha |
| 12:34.11 | GreatDestroyer12 | so nanoemulsions |
| 12:34.16 | GreatDestroyer12 | not quantumscale yet |
| 12:34.48 | GreatDestroyer12 | its something like that for nanoemulsions |
| 12:35.01 | GreatDestroyer12 | things will have different properties |
| 12:35.19 | GreatDestroyer12 | for example, oil and water would be able to mix with some nanoemulsier stuff |
| 12:35.22 | Jepardi | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/5320577_460s.jpg |
| 12:35.29 | GreatDestroyer12 | at least thats what i recall |
| 12:36.13 | Wormy__ | I'm guessing two umixable quantum states but we already have the pauli exclusion principle that doesn't allow two fermions to inhabit the same space with the same state. |
| 12:37.14 | Wormy__ | More technically put as "two identical fermions (particles with half-integer spin) may occupy the same quantum state simultaneously" |
| 12:37.22 | Wormy__ | No |
| 12:37.40 | Wormy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:37.47 | Ghel | No, it sounds like he really does just mean emulsifiers using nanotechnology. :P |
| 12:38.37 | Wormy__ | Femtotech colloid? |
| 12:38.50 | GreatDestroyer12 | i forogt the exact thing |
| 12:39.52 | Wormy__ | Brian Greenese decribed that the principle allows every electron in the universe to be affected http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_H26JrjI9c |
| 12:39.56 | Wormy__ | Brian Cox |
| 12:40.35 | Wormy__ | He accidently said energy instead of quantum -state and it upset a lot of people. |
| 12:44.50 | Ghel | I tried seeing what would happen if I altered the relativistic equations so that momentum depended on the absolute value of the mass, rather than the magnitude. |
| 12:45.23 | Ghel | Of course, if you make energy proportional to the absolute value of the mass, then as far as metric engineering is concerned, there's no difference between positive and negative mass since it's all just positive energy. |
| 12:46.05 | Wormy__ | That won't enlarge any wormhole nexus |
| 12:46.14 | Ghel | Exactly. |
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| 12:46.23 | GreatDestroyer12 | dum intenret |
| 12:46.28 | GreatDestroyer12 | its trolling me |
| 12:46.33 | Ghel | I'll just restate what I've been saying again. :D |
| 12:46.37 | Ghel | I tried seeing what would happen if I altered the relativistic equations so that momentum depended on the absolute value of the mass, rather than the magnitude. |
| 12:46.40 | Ghel | Of course, if you make energy proportional to the absolute value of the mass, then as far as metric engineering is concerned, there's no difference between positive and negative mass since it's all just positive energy. |
| 12:46.50 | Wormy__ | [14:11] <Wormy__> That won't enlarge any wormhole nexus |
| 12:46.58 | GreatDestroyer12 | whats wormhole nexus |
| 12:47.14 | Ghel | It requires negative energy to make, which is the point. |
| 12:47.33 | Wormy__ | I was using Orions Arm's cool word for a wormhole mouth |
| 12:47.55 | GreatDestroyer12 | i c |
| 12:48.04 | Ghel | What I ended up with was: m^2/|m|^2 = 1. In other words, if it were possible for a positive and a negative mass to annihilate (or form from a point) without leaving surplus momentum, it wouldn't matter, because all mass would have to be positive anyway. |
| 12:48.57 | Wormy__ | What if negative mass wasn't actually defined by matter but is merely a quantum field that might ignore or have very little effect on positive masses going through? |
| 12:49.16 | GreatDestroyer12 | god the math of this was so much easier |
| 12:49.54 | Ghel | So, negative energy exists as positive energy does, and the two cannot annihilate each other? |
| 12:50.07 | GreatDestroyer12 | was that to me? |
| 12:50.11 | Ghel | No, to Wormy. |
| 12:50.45 | Wormy__ | I'm sure Brian Greene stated that zero pressure would wall off the two from each other, but it was last year I read it. |
| 12:51.02 | Wormy__ | So that might be to do with something else |
| 12:51.33 | Wormy__ | I was thinking that maybe positive and negative masses don't collide in the sense a proiton and an anti-proton would |
| 12:51.46 | Ghel | If it has a small interaction cross-section for annihilation, then the paradox would still exist. What it needs is a zero cross-section, but it must still be able to interact gravitationally. |
| 12:52.05 | Wormy__ | That there is no negative-matter but there are fields which have negative energy |
| 12:52.39 | Ghel | I think it has to have a zero cross-section for interaction anyway; it's not as though reactions with subatomic particles are limited to particle-antiparticle annihilation. |
| 12:54.16 | GreatDestroyer12 | ~seen Technobliterator |
| 12:54.21 | infobot | technobliterator <51973580@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.151.53.128> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 16h 16m 49s ago, saying: 'hi guys'. |
| 12:54.21 | Wormy__ | brb lunch |
| 12:54.52 | Wormy__ | I agree |
| 12:55.53 | Ghel | Of course, a particle is just an excitation of a quantum field. So if this field doesn't have particles, then does that mean that it must have a universally non-zero value to affect other energy? |
| 12:56.18 | Ghel | In other news, I've perhaps worked out a possible (albeit bizarre) solution to the momentum excess paradox. |
| 12:56.30 | GreatDestroyer12 | what is it |
| 12:57.38 | Ghel | It would be possible to have a particle with momentum but no energy, but it would also have to be travelling at infinite velocity. |
| 12:58.18 | Ghel | No energy, no mass, just momentum and speed. |
| 12:58.39 | GreatDestroyer12 | im pretty sure that would work |
| 12:59.27 | GreatDestroyer12 | especially with the laws of hyperspace |
| 13:00.29 | Ghel | No, it doesn't even need hyperspace. When a positive-mass and a negative-mass particle collide, this "momenton" (as I will now call it) travels at infinite velocity relative to the average rest frame of the two colliding particles. |
| 13:00.38 | GreatDestroyer12 | ya |
| 13:01.45 | Ghel | However, to create a negative mass particle, you'd also have to harness one of these momentons, which exist only for the exact instant that they're created. |
| 13:02.50 | GreatDestroyer12 | is exact instant a planck time? |
| 13:02.57 | Ghel | I guess so, yes. |
| 13:03.21 | GreatDestroyer12 | but its in hyperspace |
| 13:03.23 | GreatDestroyer12 | time is just a dimension |
| 13:03.31 | GreatDestroyer12 | it can be warped as well |
| 13:03.40 | GreatDestroyer12 | now its just a practicality problem |
| 13:03.46 | GreatDestroyer12 | the main thing with classical mechanics was solved |
| 13:03.49 | Ghel | This would mean that negative mass cannot be created on demand, unless I suppose, there are positive-momentum momentons and negative-momentum momentons, in which case you could create these in pairs. |
| 13:04.32 | Wormy__ | This is indeed exotic |
| 13:04.39 | Ghel | However, then we have the next problem: in which direction is this infinite velocity? Considering nullification shows how this becomes a problem. |
| 13:05.02 | Ghel | You can change which rest frame you view nullification in, and what you might imagine to be a preferred direction for infinite velocity changes. |
| 13:05.03 | GreatDestroyer12 | we could use that as the theoretical explanation |
| 13:05.18 | Ghel | BRB |
| 13:06.37 | GreatDestroyer12 | boom solved |
| 13:06.49 | GreatDestroyer12 | wormy could you give me the link to the irc archives |
| 13:06.53 | GreatDestroyer12 | so i can see what i wrote before |
| 13:06.55 | GreatDestroyer12 | i pinged out |
| 13:07.04 | GreatDestroyer12 | then formalize the tech? |
| 13:07.12 | Wormy__ | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ |
| 13:07.29 | GreatDestroyer12 | ty |
| 13:08.03 | Wormy__ | Well much of this was merely to discuss solutions to the nullification problem. |
| 13:08.14 | GreatDestroyer12 | should i also post this under weapons technology for hypermatter energy when i formalize it? |
| 13:08.17 | GreatDestroyer12 | ya |
| 13:08.33 | Wormy__ | Probably hyperspatial |
| 13:08.56 | GreatDestroyer12 | however it would require a massive amount of energy |
| 13:10.10 | GreatDestroyer12 | would you classify this as a superweapon? |
| 13:10.56 | Wormy__ | If you translate the energy into joules and work it out, and if its enough to destreoy a planetary body, then yes |
| 13:11.37 | GreatDestroyer12 | ya |
| 13:12.09 | GreatDestroyer12 | the other thing im thinking of is that the amount of energy increases exponentially with the specificity of the points |
| 13:12.10 | GreatDestroyer12 | depending on what scale they are |
| 13:12.50 | GreatDestroyer12 | thanks for the help with this |
| 13:12.55 | Wormy__ | I'm surprised Ghel quite possibly came up with something no-one has. Unless momentons have been thought of before and we haven't read about them. |
| 13:13.22 | GreatDestroyer12 | god |
| 13:13.27 | GreatDestroyer12 | research paper |
| 13:13.35 | GreatDestroyer12 | whats ghels educational background? |
| 13:13.44 | Wormy__ | I don't know. |
| 13:14.27 | GreatDestroyer12 | i mean |
| 13:15.23 | Ghel | back |
| 13:16.02 | Ghel | The obvious example is when we view two particles colliding are viewed from a rest frame in which the average velocity is zero, in which case the momenton should have no preferred direction of movement whatsoever. |
| 13:16.11 | Wormy__ | Ghel: You need to publish this in a scientific journal. |
| 13:16.23 | Ghel | I need to work out where this all goes first. :P |
| 13:17.20 | Wormy__ | I'm not so good at the maths but I'll help |
| 13:17.34 | Ghel | From this new paradox, the only solution I can think of this is, barring a velocity that is simultaneously infinite *and* zero, that the momenton travels at infinite velocity in every direction - i.e. at the instant of nullification, the momenton occupies the whole of space at the instant of "now" as perceived by the rest frame of collision. |
| 13:17.46 | Ghel | I can think of is* |
| 13:18.04 | Wormy__ | "The Ghel-GreatDestroyer12-Wormy solution" |
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| 13:18.23 | Wormy__ | It would have the most distinctive name in all of physics |
| 13:18.28 | Ghel | I'll repeat the last few things I said, again. :D |
| 13:18.38 | Ghel | The obvious example is when we view two particles colliding are viewed from a rest frame in which the average velocity is zero, in which case the momenton should have no preferred direction of movement whatsoever. |
| 13:18.49 | Ghel | From this new paradox, the only solution I can think of is, barring a velocity that is simultaneously infinite *and* zero, that the momenton travels at infinite velocity in every direction - i.e. at the instant of nullification, the momenton occupies the whole of space at the instant of "now" as perceived by the rest frame of collision. |
| 13:19.06 | GD12 | infinite and zero |
| 13:19.21 | GD12 | it could be infinite in hyperspace and zero in realspace |
| 13:19.43 | Ghel | No, this is something that has to work even without extra dimensions. |
| 13:20.11 | Ghel | This now leads to problems with the idea of creating positive and negative momenton pairs - they'd also be created and annihilate instantly, as they can't travel in opposite directions. |
| 13:20.48 | Wormy__ | Hm |
| 13:21.14 | Ghel | This would mean that, throughout the history of the universe, surplus momentum would have to exist in the form of this "momenton", constantly switching between its instanteous momenton form and positive mass-negative mass particle pairs. |
| 13:22.14 | Ghel | I did have a random thought about the connection between this momenton and its infinite speed in a preferred rest frame, and the apparent infinite speed of quantum effects such as entanglement. |
| 13:23.00 | Ghel | However, I'm not sure if there's any reasonable mechanism by which such a connection could occur (bearing in mind it would need a momenton-antimomenton pair to be produced, and both would equally propogate infinitely). |
| 13:23.11 | GD12 | hmm when has there ever been so much consecutive physics talk on this wiki |
| 13:23.22 | Ghel | Probably never. :D |
| 13:23.27 | Wormy__ | Lots of times |
| 13:23.28 | GD12 | lol |
| 13:23.37 | GD12 | like when? |
| 13:23.43 | Wormy__ | This is one of the few when we may be onto someone NO-ONE has |
| 13:24.03 | Wormy__ | We;ve discussed physics lots of times |
| 13:24.04 | GD12 | in terms of RL physics? |
| 13:24.08 | Wormy__ | yes |
| 13:24.13 | GD12 | ya |
| 13:24.27 | Wormy__ | You've missed a lot. Luckily I've saved some on documents |
| 13:24.37 | GD12 | i saw on the archives |
| 13:25.25 | GD12 | maybe this could be put in as one of the weapons that helps stop exodium |
| 13:25.37 | Ghel | I quick Google search for "momenton" usually shows songs with lyrics "... moment on ...", as well as an unrelated hypothetical particle (one which still has energy). |
| 13:26.27 | Ghel | So, yes, this seems reasonably unique. |
| 13:26.59 | GD12 | ghelae, y u so good at physics |
| 13:27.08 | Wormy__ | When I go to university I'll ask a physicist there. The Earth and Space Science department is next to the physics one. |
| 13:27.33 | Ghel | GD12: I seem to have an intuitive comprehension of quantum mechanics. :P |
| 13:27.41 | Wormy__ | He'll have contacts and links around the world |
| 13:27.47 | GD12 | haha |
| 13:27.52 | Wormy__ | Or She, lets not be sexist |
| 13:27.57 | Jepardi | Wormy: How do you increase in Fleet grades in STO? |
| 13:28.03 | GD12 | you havent studied it formally? |
| 13:28.14 | Wormy__ | By playing episodes is the quickest way |
| 13:28.30 | Ghel | Well, I've done A-Level Physics, but that's it. I'll be doing more when I go to do Natural Sciences at Nottingham University. |
| 13:28.59 | Ghel | I leave for the university on the 23rd of this month. |
| 13:29.11 | GD12 | i c |
| 13:29.25 | Wormy__ | I'm going to do Planetary geology and environmental Earth Science at the Universe of Leicester |
| 13:29.39 | GD12 | and i am still in high school ;) |
| 13:29.48 | Ghel | Leicester was my second choice. I'd have done Interdisciplinary Science there. |
| 13:30.13 | Ghel | I'll just summarise the key points behind this "momenton" that we've got so far. |
| 13:30.19 | Wormy__ | Leicester is the top 2% you know. Should have gone there |
| 13:30.47 | Ghel | Out of the five universities I picked, Leicester had the lowest grade boundaries. AAB; Nottinham was AAA or AABB. |
| 13:30.53 | Wormy__ | Sorry, I'm sure Nottingham University is great |
| 13:31.03 | Ghel | No worries. |
| 13:31.57 | GD12 | ive researched, british education is so much cheaper than american education |
| 13:32.06 | GD12 | lucky |
| 13:32.37 | Wormy__ | Not really. They are saying this year's students could be up to £50,000 in debt |
| 13:32.51 | GD12 | orly |
| 13:32.52 | Wormy__ | The debt will be huge I imagine |
| 13:33.08 | Wormy__ | I miught be paying it for the rest of my life |
| 13:33.12 | Ghel | Although we pay that "debt" off like a tax, at 9% of everything over £21000 that we earn per year. |
| 13:33.15 | Wormy__ | But its worth it |
| 13:33.35 | GD12 | hmm what other users on sw like hard sci fi? |
| 13:33.40 | Ghel | And you'll only be paying it off for the rest of your life if you die before you've graduated forr 30 years, because that's when remaining debt is wiped clean. |
| 13:33.40 | GD12 | or hard sci fi fics? |
| 13:33.47 | Wormy__ | Monet and The Ramdomness do |
| 13:34.03 | GD12 | are there any who explicitly don't like it? |
| 13:34.17 | Ghel | Most people don't like technobabble. |
| 13:34.20 | Wormy__ | Panda said he didn't earlier, said he hates my fiction |
| 13:34.31 | Ghel | I think only Xho tries to actively un-science his fiction. |
| 13:34.36 | Ghel | I was supposed to be summarising the momenton here, wasn't I? :P |
| 13:34.41 | Wormy__ | Yes |
| 13:34.44 | Ghel | From deciding that mass is not all too important and rearranging the relativistic equations E = ymc^2 and p = ymv ("y" being in place of gamma, the Lorenz factor), we get p = Ev/c^2 (or, to make this more obvious, E = pc^2/v). |
| 13:35.19 | Ghel | From these equations, we see that to have momentum with zero energy, we also need infinite velocity. |
| 13:35.37 | Jepardi | Wormy: By episodes you mean like, the Undine Advance or the Klingon War? |
| 13:36.41 | Ghel | Then, by considering the reference frames in which you can view either the nullification or pair production of positive mass-negative mass pairs (which are what would result in a momentum excess with zero energy), we realise that there is no direction to the velocity of the momenton. |
| 13:37.47 | Ghel | And then you can speculate further on that. Simultaneous infinite and zero velocity (making "velocity" a characteristic that manifests in more ways than metres per second)? Infinite velocity in every direction (or would that cancel out to make an average of zero)? etc. |
| 13:39.27 | Ghel | Either way, momentons being produced in pairs of positive and negative momenta would instantly annihilate. |
| 13:40.09 | GD12 | at the instant of its creation right? |
| 13:40.33 | Ghel | Yes. |
| 13:40.47 | GD12 | i c |
| 13:41.01 | Ghel | Of course, if they have infinite velocity in all directions, they'd still cover the entire universe in that time. |
| 13:41.10 | Wormy__ | To our reference frame, infinite velocity would have an instant duration. |
| 13:42.34 | Ghel | If we're in the same reference frame of the momenton's production (e.g. average reference frame of nulifying particles), yes. Otherwise, relativity of simultaneity kicks in, but considering that just makes this more complicated than it needs to be. |
| 13:42.39 | GD12 | and now for me to think of a name for this |
| 13:43.20 | Ghel | Well... this whole idea might still not work for whatever reason. |
| 13:43.48 | Wormy__ | We made need more mathematical descriptions. |
| 13:43.51 | Wormy__ | may |
| 13:44.23 | GD12 | for what reason? |
| 13:44.32 | GD12 | for ghelaes theories? |
| 13:44.36 | Ghel | The main descriptions we'd need would be to describe the momenton's motion. Our two ideas so far don't really make sense. |
| 13:45.09 | GD12 | i thought we only had two ideas |
| 13:45.13 | GD12 | i mean one |
| 13:45.13 | GD12 | the whole momenton thing |
| 13:45.38 | Ghel | The two options for its movement is both zero and infinite velocity simultaneously, or infinite velocity in every direction. |
| 13:46.22 | Ghel | The latter seems to make more sense... just. |
| 13:47.00 | Ghel | One thing here is that we can't use traditional tools like wave equations, since waves result from energy; therefore, momentons are not wavelike. |
| 13:47.30 | Ghel | Or waves carry energy, or however you want to think of it. |
| 13:49.37 | GD12 | name so far |
| 13:49.38 | GD12 | Pseudoeuclidean Topological Spatial Transform Inverse Point Inverser |
| 13:49.47 | GD12 | PTSTIPI |
| 13:50.11 | GD12 | hurhur |
| 13:50.28 | Ghel | Or if you treat "pseudoeuclidean" as "pseudo-euclidian", you get "PETSTIPI". |
| 13:50.37 | GD12 | me gusta |
| 13:50.44 | GD12 | my pet stipi |
| 13:51.53 | GD12 | ill introduce it right before the final battle with exodium |
| 13:53.21 | GD12 | Lebinitivtz-Erdowarz-Archimustz-Jupitvieperd-Zapplegrav Pseudo Euclidean Topological Spatial Transform Inverse Point Inverser |
| 13:53.27 | GD12 | god that is a sexy name |
| 13:53.38 | Jepardi | Thanks |
| 13:53.42 | OluapWorker | I would marry it |
| 13:53.45 | Jepardi | Oh |
| 13:53.59 | Jepardi | smacks himself |
| 13:54.13 | Ghel | LEAJZPETSTIPI? |
| 13:54.36 | GD12 | imagine if the first five letters formed lezia |
| 13:54.57 | OluapWorker | I guess that would give Exodium a scare |
| 13:55.06 | GD12 | the lezia |
| 13:55.11 | GD12 | not the actual weapon |
| 13:55.39 | Ghel | Lebinitivtz-Erdowarz-Zapplegrav-Iupitvieperd-Archimustz Pseudo Euclidean Topological Spatial Transform Inverse Point Inverser? |
| 13:55.58 | Ghel | Simply remove the letter J from the language and it all works out fine. |
| 13:56.06 | GD12 | oh god |
| 13:57.36 | Ghel | On the science, come to think of it, the idea of positive and negative momentons doesn't strictly make sense; it would just be momentons travelling in opposite directions rather than an absolute designation like positive and negative energy or charges. |
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| 13:57.50 | GreatDestroyer12 | Lebinitivtz-Erdowarz-Zapplegrav-Iupitvieperd-Archimustz Pseudo Euclidean Topological Spatial Transform Inverse Point Inverser? |
| 13:57.55 | GreatDestroyer12 | LEZIA PET STIPI |
| 13:58.12 | GreatDestroyer12 | oh god |
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| 13:58.32 | GreatDestroyer12 | hi |
| 13:58.38 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 13:58.42 | SCP-17-R | Herro. |
| 13:59.18 | GreatDestroyer12 | you just missed the naming of a new weapon |
| 13:59.22 | GreatDestroyer12 | the Lebinitivtz-Erdowarz-Zapplegrav-Iupitvieperd-Archimustz Pseudo Euclidean Topological Spatial Transform Inverse Point Inverser |
| 13:59.28 | GreatDestroyer12 | or LEZIA-PET-STIPI |
| 14:00.09 | GreatDestroyer12 | test |
| 14:01.33 | GreatDestroyer12 | ~seen DrodoEmpire |
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| 14:01.50 | Wormy__ | "The Ghel-GreatDestroyer12-Wormy solution to the nullification paradox using Lebinitivtz-Erdowarz-Zapplegrav-Iupitvieperd-Archimustz Pseudo Euclidean Topological Spatial Transform Inverse Point Inverser" |
| 14:02.16 | GreatDestroyer12 | trololol |
| 14:02.23 | Wormy__ | Most distinctive name for a scientific journal |
| 14:02.34 | GreatDestroyer12 | ya |
| 14:03.09 | SCP-17-R | I am SCP#17-R-J |
| 14:03.13 | GreatDestroyer12 | it sounds so legit |
| 14:03.17 | SCP-17-R | Classification:Euclid |
| 14:03.37 | Wormy__ | BBL |
| 14:03.40 | GreatDestroyer12 | k |
| 14:03.51 | Wormy_away | Actually |
| 14:07.44 | GreatDestroyer12 | test |
| 14:13.09 | GreatDestroyer12 | test |
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| 14:23.05 | GreatDestroyer12 | ~seen Technobliterator |
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| 14:25.08 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 14:25.22 | Ghel | I realised a flaw in my analysis of the momenton. |
| 14:25.47 | Ghel | Of course there's a preferred direction for velocity: that's where the momentum excess comes from in the first place. |
| 14:25.56 | GreatDestroyer12 | meaning? |
| 14:26.00 | GreatDestroyer12 | in the context of this |
| 14:26.48 | Ghel | Meaning that, for example, a positive momenton would move in the same direction of the positive-mass particle (or, vice versa, a negative momenton in the same direction as the negative-mass particle). |
| 14:27.08 | GreatDestroyer12 | and this affects the final findings how? |
| 14:27.55 | Ghel | It gets rid of the problem of whether the momenton travels both at infinite and zero velocity, or at infinite velocity in all directions. It does neither, since the direction of movement in defined. |
| 14:28.06 | GreatDestroyer12 | ahh k |
| 14:28.09 | GreatDestroyer12 | so it solves the problem? |
| 14:28.34 | Ghel | It solves that problem, yes. The next question is, then, is there just a positive momenton formed, or a positive and negative momenton pair , or just a negative momenton? |
| 14:29.08 | Ghel | Actually, this one's easy enough. Since the momenton has no mass, its velocity must be in the same direction as its momentum; in other words, all momentons are positive. |
| 14:29.19 | Ghel | That gets rid of another problem I'd thought about. |
| 14:29.24 | GreatDestroyer12 | test |
| 14:30.05 | Ghel | I guess now those mysteries are solved, there's just the interactions of momentons to consider. |
| 14:31.15 | Ghel | Since we have no negative momentons, for momentons to exist, there must always have been a momentum surplus in the universe; i.e. the momenton must have existed at the beginning of the universe. |
| 14:31.41 | Ghel | There's another issue solved. |
| 14:31.49 | GreatDestroyer12 | and thats much easier? |
| 14:31.59 | GreatDestroyer12 | bewm |
| 14:32.05 | Ghel | Well, we're making a lot more progress now. |
| 14:32.29 | GreatDestroyer12 | thats all the issues right? |
| 14:33.15 | Ghel | We'll see. Often, when you solve one issue, a load more then appear. That's what's already happened: "particle with momentum but no energy" seemed like a simple solution to the nullification paradox, didn't it? |
| 14:33.38 | GreatDestroyer12 | ya |
| 14:34.17 | Ghel | One thought experiment to consider would be what happens when a momenton transfers its momentum to another particle. If the particle has positive mass, it gains positive momentum, but it also gains positive kinetic energy. |
| 14:34.37 | Ghel | That means there's no an energy excess in the universe, so a negative-mass particle must form in the positive-mass particle's former rest frame. |
| 14:35.12 | Ghel | Conversely, a negative-mass particle gaining positive momentum from a momenton would gain negative kinetic energy, so a positive-mass particle must be formed. |
| 14:36.02 | Ghel | Remember that I don't know what use these ideas will be, but it helps to learn everything we can about the momenton to try to see what we can and what we can't do with them. |
| 14:36.26 | Ghel | [15:34] <Ghel> That means there's no an energy excess in the universe, so a negative-mass particle must form in the positive-mass particle's former rest frame. >> now* |
| 14:36.36 | Ghel | Took me a while to fix that typo. |
| 14:38.35 | Ghel | And if two like-charged particles, one negative-mass and one positive-mass, nullify, the momenton will also be charged, so that could allow it to interact with other charged particles. |
| 14:39.26 | GreatDestroyer12 | btw whats a rest frame |
| 14:39.28 | Ghel | Otherwise, the only way for it to interact with the rest of the universe would be to spontaneously form positive mass-negative mass particle pairs. |
| 14:39.57 | Ghel | A rest frame is the frame of reference in which an object appears to be stationary. |
| 14:40.09 | GreatDestroyer12 | i c |
| 14:40.41 | Ghel | i.e. one in which you're moving at the same speed and in the same direction as the object. |
| 14:41.43 | GreatDestroyer12 | k |
| 14:41.50 | GreatDestroyer12 | hmm where are the other users like techno and xho |
| 14:41.55 | GreatDestroyer12 | arent they usually on at this time? |
| 14:42.25 | GreatDestroyer12 | hey dude can you add the momenton thing to the explanation |
| 14:42.26 | GreatDestroyer12 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny/Technology#LEZIAPETSTIPI |
| 14:42.43 | Ghel | I think I'll wait until we get this whole momenton idea sorted out. |
| 14:42.52 | Ghel | This is still the preliminary thinking stages. |
| 14:43.08 | GreatDestroyer12 | k |
| 14:43.19 | Ghel | As for Jo and Xho, maybe they're not back on their computers yet, especially if they've had school today? |
| 14:43.30 | GreatDestroyer12 | i c |
| 14:43.31 | GreatDestroyer12 | what else do you have to sort out |
| 14:44.00 | Ghel | I have to think about it all. |
| 14:44.10 | Ghel | One thing will be to make sure that all of the interactions make sense. |
| 14:44.12 | GreatDestroyer12 | contemplation taim |
| 14:46.34 | GreatDestroyer12 | or no? |
| 14:46.45 | GreatDestroyer12 | haha do you think this qualifies as the nerdiest conversation ever had on sw |
| 14:47.00 | Ghel | No; people have had discussion about sci-fi before. :P |
| 14:47.05 | GreatDestroyer12 | k |
| 14:47.10 | GreatDestroyer12 | me inexperienced |
| 14:47.12 | GreatDestroyer12 | hurhur |
| 14:47.18 | Ghel | Ah. Singularity time. Perhaps. |
| 14:47.29 | GreatDestroyer12 | whats singularity time? |
| 14:47.51 | Ghel | That's what I've decided to call it when we get equations where we divide by zero. |
| 14:48.05 | GreatDestroyer12 | the singularity of a black hole? |
| 14:49.05 | GreatDestroyer12 | y do you have to divide by zero |
| 14:49.58 | Ghel | A gravitational singularity in General Relativity, like a black hole, is one example. |
| 14:50.14 | GreatDestroyer12 | so why did you bring it up now? |
| 14:50.21 | GreatDestroyer12 | do you have to div by zero for your fidnings? |
| 14:50.34 | Ghel | What we're dealing with here is transfer of momentum over time, i.e. force. The commonly-used equation is F = ma, but ultimately, it's F = dp/dt. |
| 14:51.02 | Ghel | Now, if we say that the momenton only exists for an instant - less than even a planck time - then dt = 0. |
| 14:51.19 | Ghel | In other words, you'd need an infinite force to get a momenton to transfer any momentum. |
| 14:51.50 | Ghel | Actually, the time in which a momenton exists doesn't matter. It's the time that it takes for the momenton, travelling at speed, to move by another particle. |
| 14:51.52 | Ghel | Again, dt = 0. |
| 14:52.34 | Ghel | That just prevents classical collisions involving momentons from taking place. |
| 14:52.37 | GreatDestroyer12 | yay calculus |
| 14:53.40 | Ghel | So, the only way for momentons to interact with the rest of the universe is for pair production of oppositely-massed particles. |
| 14:55.47 | Ghel | Due to the lack of direction interactions between momentons and other particles, stimulated pair production is impossible, limiting it to spontaneous formation of virtual particle pairs out of the vacuum. |
| 14:56.00 | Ghel | However, unlike normal particle pairs, these wouldn't immediately annihilate. |
| 14:56.24 | Ghel | They lack opposite electric charges to pull them together, for example. |
| 14:57.44 | Ghel | Although, I guess there must be another mechanism causing annihilation, otherwise the vacuum would spontaneously decay into neutrino-antineutrino pairs. |
| 14:58.44 | GreatDestroyer12 | if only wormeh was her |
| 14:58.47 | GreatDestroyer12 | *here |
| 14:58.48 | Ghel | Ignoring that for now, the only force between two uncharged oppositely-massed particles would be the gravitational force, which would be negative. |
| 14:58.56 | GreatDestroyer12 | are you saving this on a word doc or no? |
| 14:59.08 | Ghel | No; there's not too much to remember for now. |
| 14:59.50 | GreatDestroyer12 | k |
| 15:00.10 | GreatDestroyer12 | what were your other a levels/ |
| 15:00.19 | Ghel | Chemistry, Biology, and Maths. |
| 15:00.34 | GreatDestroyer12 | i thought one only takes 3 h levels in total? |
| 15:01.05 | Ghel | You can take any number. No university asks for more than 3, though. |
| 15:01.15 | Ghel | The more you take, however, the more options you have open. |
| 15:01.21 | GreatDestroyer12 | i see |
| 15:01.54 | Ghel | We've got the relativistic equations to calculate the momentum as having infinite velocity; the thought experiment to deterime its direction of movement; the fact that they have no mass so that there can only be positive momentons (p = yv); and the fact that their infinite speed means collisions cannot happen (dt = 0). |
| 15:02.15 | Ghel | That's all we've really got. |
| 15:03.18 | GreatDestroyer12 | test |
| 15:03.29 | Ghel | Anyway... the repulsive force would cause the positive mass to move away from the negative mass, and the negative mass to move towards the positive mass (p is proportional to m again; negative mass has negative inertia). |
| 15:04.08 | Ghel | Therefore, if the two have equal mass, they remain in equilibrium and so stay fixed relative to each other. |
| 15:04.23 | GreatDestroyer12 | what would the relative distance between them be then? |
| 15:04.53 | Ghel | That depends on the masses of the particles and the momentum of the momenton. |
| 15:04.58 | GreatDestroyer12 | i c |
| 15:05.15 | Ghel | Those would both affect the speed at which the particles move away from each other at first, and then the gravitational force between them. |
| 15:06.27 | Ghel | Actually... that might not keep them fixed together. |
| 15:07.19 | Ghel | As the negative mass moves away from the positive mass, the gravitational force decreases, so it won't start moving towards it. |
| 15:08.08 | Ghel | At most, I guess they might keep on moving away from each other at the same speed, but I'd have to do some calculations, and those wouldn't be important for understanding the momenton. |
| 15:10.44 | GreatDestroyer12 | its pretty late ehre |
| 15:10.45 | GreatDestroyer12 | night |
| 15:10.47 | GreatDestroyer12 | while you ponder on the laws of the universe, i have to sleep |
| 15:13.09 | Ghel | Well, I think I've thought of everything I can anyway. |
| 15:14.36 | Ghel | Finally. |
| 15:17.32 | Ghel | Oh, except for that m^2/|m|^2 = 1 also works for negative m. But meh. |
| 15:29.15 | Jepardi | peep |
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| 15:34.47 | Imperios | Deliciously ded |
| 15:35.16 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 15:35.43 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:TheImperios I changed my avatar |
| 15:35.49 | Imperios | What do you think of it, better or worse? |
| 15:36.38 | OluapWorker | Neutral |
| 15:38.56 | OluapWorker | If 1 is 100%, 1.3 would be 130%, right? |
| 15:39.12 | Imperios | Eeeyup |
| 15:39.16 | OluapWorker | Alrighty |
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| 15:46.45 | Imperios | Hello |
| 15:46.59 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 15:49.45 | OluapWorker | hello |
| 15:55.41 | Imperios | PEOPLE |
| 15:55.49 | Imperios | I have come up with a new fiction story idea |
| 15:55.52 | Imperios | In school |
| 15:56.18 | Imperios | Since Andromeda War has ended prematurely |
| 15:56.20 | Imperios | Sort of |
| 15:56.48 | Imperios | (it was supposed to be slightly longer once) |
| 15:56.49 | Jepardi | peep |
| 15:57.07 | Imperios | Some things like, well, WTF THE ARTIFACTS do, were left undescribed |
| 15:57.21 | OluapWorker | yes |
| 15:57.33 | Imperios | What if I will make a story set in the past describing how were the artifacts created, what do they do, etc? |
| 15:57.48 | Ghel | That should work. |
| 15:57.54 | Imperios | Tertamians, Rades, etc |
| 15:57.59 | Imperios | I would like to write a story 'bout 'em |
| 15:58.02 | Imperios | Two problems |
| 15:58.02 | Monet | That's true. |
| 15:58.12 | Imperios | No collaboration possible (I guess) |
| 15:58.19 | Imperios | >>That's true. |
| 15:58.24 | Imperios | That's in answer to what? |
| 15:58.39 | Imperios | *response |
| 15:58.57 | Monet | Imperios: To artifacts being unexplained, I got a lag spike. |
| 15:59.41 | Imperios | Yeah, exactly |
| 16:00.38 | Imperios | That and since the whole "Andromedan precursors" thing is based on my old Russian fic |
| 16:00.50 | Imperios | One of the empires is not in fact mine but made by an old friend of mine |
| 16:00.54 | Imperios | Who I cannot contact at all |
| 16:01.06 | Imperios | Using this empire would be... unethical I guess |
| 16:02.32 | Imperios | This empire is "Hydrargyrum Galactic Commonwealth", which was Tertamians' practical nemesis, hence I mentioned it here and there in fiction |
| 16:03.32 | Ghel | Unless they destroyed or outlived the Tertamians, you shouldn't have any need to put them in the fiction. |
| 16:03.44 | Imperios | Tertamians were at war with them |
| 16:03.53 | Imperios | Right before their destruction |
| 16:05.13 | Ghel | Ah. Okay, as long as the HGC didn't have anything to do with the artefacts, you shouldn't have any need to put them in the fiction. |
| 16:05.32 | Ghel | If they *did* have anything to do with the artefacts, you might have a problem. |
| 16:05.39 | Imperios | The latter is true, more or less |
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| 16:06.38 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 16:06.40 | Monet | Hello. |
| 16:06.44 | Twinky | hi |
| 16:06.49 | Imperios | Sup turtule |
| 16:06.51 | Imperios | turtle |
| 16:06.52 | Imperios | :> |
| 16:07.13 | Twinky | turtle? |
| 16:07.18 | Ghel | Imperios: Do you mean that the HGC were involved with the artefacts' creation? |
| 16:07.24 | Imperios | Sort of |
| 16:07.33 | Imperios | I still form the story in my head but it seems so |
| 16:08.40 | Ghel | If keeping them out of the story is a problem, perhaps a prequel isn't a good idea, and you could write a (preferably non-war) story set in the present, where the modern races discover the artefacts' history and purpose. |
| 16:08.57 | OluapWorker | Couldn't you just replace them with another empire? |
| 16:08.57 | Ghel | A prequel is a more original idea (as far as SporeWiki fiction is concerned), however. |
| 16:09.28 | Imperios | OluapWorker's idea is what I envision, personally |
| 16:09.43 | Ghel | Well, then there's no problem. |
| 16:09.49 | Imperios | We could make a substitute for HGC |
| 16:10.13 | Ghel | So retconning them out of the fiction and replacing them, or just removing them from this story? |
| 16:10.19 | Imperios | Replacing |
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| 16:10.36 | Zmr56 | hiyaz |
| 16:10.51 | Imperios | Which could have some links with it "supercool OP supernatural emperor, a council of his loyal followers beneath him, militarism" |
| 16:11.14 | Imperios | So it would keep HGC's spirit but without outright plagiarism |
| 16:12.39 | Ghel | How long ago in the past is this? |
| 16:13.32 | Imperios | Millions of years ago |
| 16:13.44 | Imperios | As I said, the end of Tertamian/Rades/Other people period |
| 16:13.54 | Monet | Twinky: He refers to your Shellious, it's your new nickname :> |
| 16:13.55 | Zmr56 | HGC? |
| 16:14.14 | Ghel | Any number of millions? I think I vaguely remember you mentioning something like 200 or 300 million years ago. |
| 16:14.21 | Twinky | you can't see it but facepalm |
| 16:14.39 | Imperios | Zmr56: Precursor empire, about to be replaced I guess |
| 16:16.25 | Ghel | ...You could always stick that idea of time-travelling humans into it. :P |
| 16:19.29 | Imperios | Yes, that too |
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| 16:20.43 | OluapWorker | dat deemun |
| 16:21.20 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 16:22.37 | Xho | Oluap u c dis http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120910200121/spore/images/7/74/MahanayanImitahin2.png |
| 16:22.59 | *** join/#sporewiki Technobliterator (6d9c5492@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.156.84.146) |
| 16:23.18 | Technobliterator | yo yo yo |
| 16:23.23 | Xho | oy oy oy |
| 16:23.38 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 16:24.42 | OluapWorker | Looks like he was eaten and then vomited |
| 16:24.44 | OluapWorker | hello |
| 16:26.43 | Technobliterator | hii |
| 16:27.46 | Imperios | Hi |
| 16:46.00 | Imperios | I have decided to sort Radeon characters by the pitch of their voices |
| 16:46.04 | Imperios | Females |
| 16:46.59 | Imperios | Telfinne > Selytorah > Venoriel > Iovera and Agnassana > Geltastra |
| 16:47.01 | Imperios | Males |
| 16:47.04 | Imperios | Hm |
| 16:47.26 | Xho | I was about to say where was Iovera |
| 16:47.27 | Xho | dum |
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| 16:49.08 | Aquilo | hello |
| 16:49.21 | Imperios | Quendor > Jahric > Telfar > Aerlon > Ma'fest > Matheoward > Indricarron > Tadjamad |
| 16:50.24 | Monet | test |
| 16:50.33 | Imperios | I envision Geltastra being voiced by Tara Strong personally |
| 16:50.46 | Imperios | Well, that's among choices |
| 16:53.16 | Jepardi | peep |
| 17:02.46 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 17:02.59 | Monet | Idungettit. |
| 17:03.10 | Monet | Unless its MLP. |
| 17:03.48 | Imperios | It is MLP, but not only MLP |
| 17:04.02 | Imperios | I'll show you why Tara Strong should voice Geltastra |
| 17:04.58 | Technobliterator | tara strong voices fucking everyone... |
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| 17:05.04 | Hachi | Well college was fun. |
| 17:05.13 | OluapWorker | College and fun |
| 17:05.17 | Monet | Hello. How was your first day? |
| 17:05.20 | OluapWorker | two words that don't mix at all |
| 17:05.28 | Hachi | It went well, I'll admit |
| 17:05.31 | Monet | OluapWOrker: I disagree. |
| 17:05.42 | OluapWorker | Because you're a dum |
| 17:05.52 | Hachi | Brazillian college must be different to English college |
| 17:06.43 | Hachi | So when are we doing the next bit of Borealis War then? |
| 17:06.45 | Technobliterator | hi hachi |
| 17:06.52 | Technobliterator | when oluap does it hur |
| 17:06.53 | OluapWorker | never |
| 17:07.00 | Imperios | Hi |
| 17:07.04 | Imperios | OluapWorker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDJ6hFcLUx8&feature=player_detailpage#t=246s |
| 17:07.11 | Technobliterator | he cant watch youtube |
| 17:07.13 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Yeah, you have a point |
| 17:07.14 | OluapWorker | I don't have access to YouTube |
| 17:07.15 | Imperios | Dammit |
| 17:07.30 | Imperios | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDJ6hFcLUx8&feature=player_detailpage#t=246s Well, someone else should watch it |
| 17:07.34 | Technobliterator | oluap do section nao |
| 17:07.39 | Imperios | Geltastra should speak like that |
| 17:07.42 | OluapWorker | No shush |
| 17:07.57 | Technobliterator | ngh |
| 17:07.58 | Technobliterator | u lazi |
| 17:08.33 | Hachi | Starscream makes me laugh |
| 17:09.07 | Imperios | One incarnation of his is voiced by Steve Blum |
| 17:09.13 | OluapWorker | The first 2 or 3 sections of the Chosen part will be solo-made by me so stop asking |
| 17:09.21 | Imperios | This makes him 20^20% cooler by definition |
| 17:09.33 | Technobliterator | yeah which is why i asked you to maek them |
| 17:11.09 | OluapWorker | I'm like "okay let's do the section now" but Mann vs Machine is all "no don't leave me I love you" |
| 17:11.53 | Hachi | lawl |
| 17:12.02 | Technobliterator | i would suggest you do it now ish but you're at work |
| 17:12.22 | Hachi | Oluap movin crates |
| 17:13.58 | OluapWorker | throws crates at Hachi |
| 17:14.47 | Technobliterator | oluap can we play mvm and dota 2 in the weekend? |
| 17:15.31 | OluapWorker | Yes |
| 17:21.00 | Technobliterator | GUYS |
| 17:21.03 | Technobliterator | GTFO ENDING!! |
| 17:22.09 | Imperios | GTFO |
| 17:22.10 | Imperios | :> |
| 17:22.10 | Imperios | J/k |
| 17:22.27 | Imperios | Okay I will read what happened since I left actually |
| 17:23.02 | Technobliterator | stuff |
| 17:23.03 | Technobliterator | :p |
| 17:23.10 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Wrath_of_Gods/Hellish_Presence gtfo ending |
| 17:23.18 | Technobliterator | right, we did the Alvino bit |
| 17:23.42 | OluapWorker | Alvino ded, GTFO ded |
| 17:23.45 | OluapWorker | and now Hachi ded |
| 17:23.47 | OluapWorker | ssss |
| 17:23.48 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Wrath_of_Gods/A_Desperate_Search#Children_of_the_Brood alvino bit |
| 17:24.10 | Hachi | "Children of the Brood" |
| 17:24.12 | Hachi | Tyraz - hai |
| 17:25.05 | OluapWorker | nu not dat brood |
| 17:25.27 | Technobliterator | no da otha one whos less dum |
| 17:28.54 | Hachi | War needs moar Hachi |
| 17:29.29 | Technobliterator | ya mom needs less hachi |
| 17:29.49 | Imperios | Hachi's breast part makes me wish Iovera and others were there |
| 17:29.49 | Hachi | Though this reminds me. Participants of the war need to start treatin Hachi badly. |
| 17:29.54 | Imperios | looks at Monet and Hachi |
| 17:29.56 | Hachi | Verbal abuse and bullyin and fer shizzle |
| 17:29.58 | Imperios | You were supposed to replace me :> |
| 17:30.07 | Hachi | lawl |
| 17:30.08 | Imperios | I wish Iovera could go WTF |
| 17:30.44 | Hachi | "Hachi's breast part" |
| 17:30.49 | Hachi | Hachi's male |
| 17:31.07 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 17:31.16 | Imperios | Regarding Felly's daughter |
| 17:31.17 | Technobliterator | so? |
| 17:31.23 | Technobliterator | males have breasts you know.. |
| 17:31.25 | Monet | http://spacer176.deviantart.com/#/d5egovk This might intrigue some people. |
| 17:31.50 | Imperios | Technobliterator: It is called "chest" generally |
| 17:32.13 | Technobliterator | but it srtill is a breast |
| 17:32.13 | Hachi | Monet: Nice, I'll have a read later |
| 17:32.36 | Imperios | Kay kay |
| 17:32.42 | Imperios | You are British not me so I guess you know better |
| 17:32.46 | Imperios | Though |
| 17:32.47 | Hachi | Men can also lactate apparently. |
| 17:32.52 | Imperios | Hachi is British too |
| 17:33.22 | Imperios | Since when Mirras can do magic |
| 17:33.29 | Hachi | I generally refer to it as a chest but I guess you could refer to it as a breast |
| 17:33.45 | Technobliterator | no |
| 17:33.52 | Technobliterator | it is called that |
| 17:34.02 | Technobliterator | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.13 | Imperios | We have "chicken breasts" and chickens are birds so I guess the words are interchangeable |
| 17:34.14 | Hachi | Techno, breast is one side of your chest |
| 17:34.14 | OluapWorker | Mind-powa |
| 17:34.14 | OluapWorker | Not magic |
| 17:34.16 | Hachi | Thus breasts |
| 17:34.32 | Imperios | But "breast" is overall more feminine I guess |
| 17:34.33 | Technobliterator | ... |
| 17:34.47 | Imperios | "chicken breast" dunno |
| 17:34.49 | Technobliterator | mate all youve seen of me is a pic showing nothing but my face... |
| 17:34.59 | Hachi | facepalms |
| 17:35.04 | Hachi | I meant in general |
| 17:35.10 | Imperios | Breastfighting |
| 17:35.14 | Hachi | Breasts = two sides of your chest |
| 17:35.15 | Technobliterator | huh what? |
| 17:35.15 | Imperios | gets some popcorn and watches |
| 17:35.20 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 17:35.22 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 17:35.24 | Technobliterator | ok |
| 17:35.40 | Hachi | Chest is the overall thing, a breast is one side of it |
| 17:35.44 | Technobliterator | i thought you were being creepy there i was like :L |
| 17:36.09 | Hachi | God no |
| 17:37.47 | Monet | This is awkward. |
| 17:37.58 | Monet | ALso I apaear to be spiking. |
| 17:38.43 | Hachi | Spiking? |
| 17:38.50 | Monet | lag spiking. |
| 17:39.10 | Technobliterator | gotta go |
| 17:39.12 | Technobliterator | byee |
| 17:40.04 | Hachi | I may take a nap soon |
| 17:40.19 | OluapWorker | slaps Hachi repeatedly |
| 17:40.22 | OluapWorker | wake up u |
| 17:40.34 | Hachi | bleh |
| 17:40.36 | Hachi | y u need meh |
| 17:40.42 | OluapWorker | i dunt |
| 17:40.50 | OluapWorker | i jus liek to hurt u |
| 17:40.57 | Hachi | ngh |
| 17:41.08 | OluapWorker | Anyway i'll give a spoiler and say the Chosen won't be present in Borealis after their bit is done |
| 17:41.50 | Hachi | lol they move to Andromeda |
| 17:41.53 | Hachi | j/k |
| 17:42.06 | OluapWorker | Move Chosen to next to DI |
| 17:42.10 | OluapWorker | Hilarity ensues |
| 17:42.11 | Imperios | Iovera - gtfo |
| 17:44.28 | Monet | Arsac - Yay -_- |
| 17:44.48 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 17:44.53 | OluapWorker | I'm not sure where they'll go |
| 17:45.05 | OluapWorker | Andromeda is a possibility since it was a lot of unexplored space |
| 17:45.15 | Imperios | They could go to Umbra |
| 17:45.18 | OluapWorker | has* |
| 17:45.25 | Imperios | Reminocles - GTFO OUT OF OUR SPESS |
| 17:45.28 | Hachi | Doesn't Brood live in Umbra? |
| 17:45.39 | OluapWorker | Chosen Zazane - heretik scum |
| 17:46.02 | Imperios | I think Brood lives in Crepusculum, but close to Umbra |
| 17:46.04 | Hachi | Brood Zazane - lol gtfo fagget |
| 17:46.29 | OluapWorker | Chosen will be fleeing Borealis to escape from being destroyed |
| 17:46.34 | OluapWorker | That's how weakened they'll be |
| 17:46.55 | Monet | Wow. |
| 17:47.25 | Monet | A move to Andromeda could give them problems because inquisitors are frickin' everywhere. |
| 17:47.36 | Imperios | Exactly |
| 17:47.53 | OluapWorker | Still, much more places to hide in there |
| 17:48.41 | Hachi | Chosen - lol Tyraz's mom |
| 17:48.44 | Hachi | Tyraz - FAGGET |
| 17:49.00 | OluapWorker | lol |
| 17:49.10 | Monet | Speaking of inquisitor dick http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Inquisitor_Kelsos |
| 17:49.25 | OluapWorker | Exarch Dick meets Inquisitor Dick |
| 17:50.39 | Monet | Brood live on the edge of Crepusculum if I recall. |
| 17:50.43 | Monet | Basically Kelsos is a grumpy old man who just wants some peace and quiet. |
| 17:50.56 | OluapWorker | Koluap - no hes a dik |
| 17:51.08 | Monet | Meh, I retcon him to 487 years. |
| 17:51.31 | Imperios | BTW |
| 17:51.39 | Imperios | The Radeon based on a DotA character |
| 17:51.43 | Imperios | Will be based on Akasha |
| 17:51.51 | Imperios | And she gonna be named Acarria or something like that |
| 17:51.54 | OluapWorker | A pervert |
| 17:51.56 | OluapWorker | Way to go |
| 17:52.06 | Hachi | Hachi - Dats my job |
| 17:52.13 | Imperios | To differentiate her from Telfinne and Geltastra |
| 17:52.20 | Monet | Pervy Radeon? IMPOSSIBRU |
| 17:52.25 | Imperios | She will torture using technological means |
| 17:52.39 | Imperios | such as chemicals, syringes, that kind of stuff |
| 17:52.50 | OluapWorker | Baptarion - Interesting |
| 17:52.57 | Imperios | That and she is actually nice when she's not tormenting people to death |
| 17:53.07 | Hachi | Hachi - Sounds sexy-- I mean, interesting |
| 17:53.22 | Imperios | Akasha's backstory says she was High Priest's pet or something |
| 17:53.22 | Imperios | *a high priest |
| 17:53.22 | Monet | And as Sarec, Arsac and Kelsos show, Inquisitors can be a b**ch to remove. |
| 17:53.27 | Imperios | So she gonna be Ma'fest's direct subordinate |
| 17:53.45 | OluapWorker | Akasha was summoned by a king |
| 17:53.54 | Imperios | Ecclesiast-king |
| 17:54.04 | Imperios | Ecclesial means "church-ish" |
| 17:54.20 | Imperios | Besides a "divine throne" was mentioned |
| 17:54.21 | Hachi | Wow, a friend showed me an emo DA stamp and I'm like "that's not very sad". She says "you wouldn't understand." I replied "It's 9/11 today, I find that a lot sadder" She goes "Sorry mr. comparison" |
| 17:54.33 | OluapWorker | Still a king |
| 17:54.37 | Imperios | well |
| 17:54.45 | Imperios | Iovera is called a "priest-queen" sometimes |
| 17:56.37 | Jepardi | peep |
| 17:58.17 | Monet | Hachi: Kelsos could always be harsh to Hachi. |
| 17:58.30 | Hachi | Ah cool. |
| 17:58.50 | Hachi | Its only for this part of the war though |
| 17:59.42 | Monet | TBH, I did not remember 9/11 until just now. |
| 18:00.02 | Imperios | Sort of, the same |
| 18:00.09 | Imperios | Who knows, it might be a CONSPIRACYYYYYYY |
| 18:00.16 | Imperios | Bombing of Orbispira style |
| 18:01.07 | OluapWorker | I updated Koluap's relations |
| 18:01.51 | Imperios | I have recently found out Zillafrire is a brony |
| 18:05.36 | Imperios | Hm |
| 18:05.44 | Imperios | How are you supposed to pronounce "ing"? |
| 18:05.47 | Imperios | Well, how do YOU pronounce it |
| 18:05.52 | OluapWorker | ing |
| 18:05.53 | OluapWorker | :v |
| 18:06.02 | Imperios | Some pronounce it as "een" |
| 18:06.04 | Imperios | Or "eenk" |
| 18:06.13 | OluapWorker | "eeng" |
| 18:06.22 | Monet | in-gh |
| 18:06.58 | Imperios | I heard "eeng" is a posh way of saying it |
| 18:09.41 | Monet | From what I can tell: Kelsos wants to beat the Cult the "right" way while Koluap wants to use any oppertunity - and both seem to think the other doesn't know what they are doing. |
| 18:11.10 | Hachi | http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/180/4/7/y_m_c_a__joke_by_pokefan2000-d55chej.jpg |
| 18:11.59 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 18:12.23 | OluapWorker | And they are both old and not very friendly |
| 18:13.11 | Monet | Koluap is friendly once he trusts you I believe. |
| 18:13.32 | OluapWorker | Until you get him angry, yes |
| 18:14.27 | Imperios | I wonder ,what do people say about your city? |
| 18:14.45 | Imperios | I remember I read in one book that Saint Petersburg (aka my city) is a "city of half-insane" |
| 18:14.46 | Xho | If people say 'eenk' then they are most likely an illiterate idiot |
| 18:14.57 | Imperios | Or an Australian |
| 18:15.18 | Imperios | Hm |
| 18:15.29 | Imperios | Hachi |
| 18:15.33 | Imperios | You heard my voice right? |
| 18:15.37 | Hachi | Yes |
| 18:15.39 | OluapWorker | Wanka mate |
| 18:15.59 | Imperios | I remember you said Tyraz has a "soft Zazane accent" |
| 18:16.07 | Imperios | And then you say Zazane probably sound Russian |
| 18:16.23 | Imperios | Do I have a heavy Russian accent or a soft one? |
| 18:16.33 | Hachi | I wouldn't really think you had one |
| 18:16.41 | Hachi | But I guess soft |
| 18:16.45 | Imperios | So |
| 18:16.50 | Imperios | I speak like Tyraz |
| 18:16.51 | Imperios | :> |
| 18:16.55 | Hachi | Well |
| 18:16.57 | Imperios | *sound |
| 18:17.12 | Hachi | He doesn't have your tone of voice |
| 18:17.21 | Imperios | Dur |
| 18:19.22 | Xho | "I hope Jay is okay. I haven't seen him since that tunnel incident." - Slenderman |
| 18:19.31 | Hachi | lol |
| 18:20.26 | OluapWorker | i dun get it |
| 18:20.44 | Xho | Slenderman dam u |
| 18:21.14 | OluapWorker | ermahgerd slehrderhmehn |
| 18:38.44 | OluapWorker | ded |
| 18:46.14 | Jepardi | peep |
| 18:51.45 | Hachi | Oluap, are we likely to do a collab chapter for BW tonight? |
| 18:52.52 | Hachi | If not, I'll go take a rest |
| 18:52.57 | OluapWorker | I already said the first few sections of the Chosen part will be solo-made by me |
| 18:53.06 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Wrath_of_Gods/Hellish_Presence#Crimson_Fires_of_Hell And the first section is done |
| 18:54.18 | Hachi | Right, then I'm gonna go sleep |
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| 19:01.43 | Imperios | Hi people |
| 19:01.53 | Ghel | ~hello |
| 19:01.53 | infobot | Howdy Bub |
| 19:01.59 | Imperios | >>paints Hachi red |
| 19:01.59 | Imperios | Hm |
| 19:02.08 | Imperios | So Hachi will go to sleep faster |
| 19:02.48 | Ghel | Exactly. You know, people spend so much money on things like sleeping pills, when there are much cheaper options... |
| 19:05.35 | Xho | Irsk just favorited something |
| 19:05.39 | Xho | Rage mode on |
| 19:06.25 | OluapWorker | Stop caring |
| 19:11.46 | Zmr56 | Hi |
| 19:12.05 | Monet | Back from the dead |
| 19:12.11 | Imperios | bb |
| 19:12.16 | OluapWorker | hello |
| 19:12.22 | Imperios | Xho: You miss your favourite fanboy? "> |
| 19:12.25 | Imperios | :> |
| 19:12.30 | Zmr56 | gives Monet brains |
| 19:12.44 | Zmr56 | Wormy's |
| 19:12.51 | OluapWorker | http://i.imgur.com/Sog4b.jpg |
| 19:12.55 | Imperios | You apparently do not like that Irskaad likes someone else than you :> |
| 19:13.07 | Zmr56 | It's big and juicy |
| 19:14.09 | Xho | If I see Irsk again i'll fucking destroy him |
| 19:14.45 | Xho | OluapWorker: dat gaben |
| 19:15.53 | OluapWorker | I shall Gabe your Newell |
| 19:16.25 | OluapWorker | http://i.imgur.com/HDXH0.jpg And now a baby hippo |
| 19:17.09 | Zmr56 | daaawww |
| 19:17.34 | OluapWorker | Funny because adult hippos are one of the most dangerous animals on Earth |
| 19:17.37 | Zmr56 | Then it grows up and bites your head off |
| 19:17.39 | Monet | U random. |
| 19:17.45 | OluapWorker | yesh |
| 19:17.56 | Zmr56 | Someone has a pet adult Hippo |
| 19:18.03 | Zmr56 | It drinks tea |
| 19:18.07 | Zmr56 | No lie |
| 19:21.55 | Monet | That cute baby is going to grow into something absolutely massive. |
| 19:22.11 | Xho | That's what my parents said about me |
| 19:22.30 | Monet | Ouch. |
| 19:22.39 | OluapWorker | Troll |
| 19:22.46 | OluapWorker | And I feel bad for laughing |
| 19:22.52 | Xho | My parents are trolls |
| 19:22.58 | Xho | More evil than me |
| 19:23.10 | OluapWorker | That's going to IRC moments |
| 19:23.15 | Monet | IMPOSSIBRU |
| 19:25.12 | Monet | The makers of the new Tomb Raider have likened their upcoming game to Batman Begins. That is just wrong. |
| 19:25.36 | Zmr56 | http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cute+little+pugs&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=-o9PUKn9DKKS0QWm54Ag&biw=768&bih=928&sei=_I9PUJm_BqKq0QWmuYD4Aw#biv=i|8;d|dwc4S9nMfL3rPM: This is cuter |
| 19:25.36 | Monet | TOmb Raider isn't supposed ot be dark and moody! |
| 19:26.35 | OluapWorker | Yes, how can one stare at Lara Croft's booty that way |
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| 19:27.07 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 19:27.11 | Wormy | hi |
| 19:27.13 | Monet | Hello. |
| 19:27.21 | Zmr56 | Hi |
| 19:27.32 | Wormy | anymore developments on momentons? |
| 19:27.48 | Wormy | Monet: You missed a great physics discussion |
| 19:27.56 | Monet | Aww! |
| 19:28.01 | OluapWorker | http://i.imgur.com/EtrKR.jpg This ends all arguments |
| 19:28.18 | Ghel | Yeah. Firstly I realised that my statement about them having no preferred direction for their velocity was inaccurate: the thought experiment that we did to propose them of course involves a preferred direction; the same direction in which the positive mass was moving (for nullification). |
| 19:28.21 | Xho | Aye |
| 19:28.34 | Monet | Admittedly Lara may be a -bit- evil for stealing ancient relics from long-forgotten places and for shooting endangered, (presumed) extinct and mythological creatures in the face. |
| 19:29.07 | Wormy | that makes sense |
| 19:29.40 | Ghel | Next, the fact that momentons wouldn't have mass would mean that they simply follow the equation p = yv, which basically means that all momentons are positive. |
| 19:30.14 | Ghel | I think. |
| 19:30.35 | Ghel | Well, you can't have a "negative" momenton with the momentum pointing in the opposite direction to the velocity, unlike negative masses. |
| 19:31.01 | Ghel | Then, interactions between momentons and particles: collisions are impossible simply because there isn't enough time for a force to act on something travelling at infinite speed. |
| 19:31.09 | Ghel | In maths terms, F = dp/dt, and dt = 0. |
| 19:31.48 | Ghel | So, the only way for momentons to interact with the rest of the universe would be the spontaneous formation of oppositely-massed pairs of particles. |
| 19:31.55 | OluapWorker | http://i49.tinypic.com/2nk06z6.jpg Staring Xho as the neighbour |
| 19:32.39 | Ghel | I also realised that my previous statement about modifying the equations of special relativity resulting in no negative masses was wrong, but it's still a messy idea, putting modulus into physics equations. |
| 19:32.48 | Zmr56 | How friendly |
| 19:34.25 | Ghel | And really, that's as far as I got. Also, if momentons *could* interact with other particles, they'd result in the formation of negative-mass particles by transferring their momentum to positive-mass ones, and vice versa. |
| 19:34.27 | Xho | Aye |
| 19:34.29 | Wormy | I guess the only way to detect momentons would be to create a near-perfect vacuum and listen for a rise of virtual particles out of the brackground norm. You would probably need some particles in there to detect the disturbence on them. |
| 19:35.06 | Wormy | Or maybe amn increase in negative pressure between charged plates? |
| 19:35.32 | Ghel | Well, I guess the next thing to do would be to work out what happens to the particle pairs produced by momentons. |
| 19:36.53 | Ghel | I figured that, since the negative gravitational force between the positive and negative masses would result in the former being repelled from the latter but the latter being attracted to the former, the two wouldn't have any net force pullting them together so they'd remain seperate. |
| 19:37.24 | Ghel | But by that logic, the vacuum should spontaneously decay into neutrino-antineutrino pairs, because there's not much pulling them together eithe. |
| 19:37.26 | Ghel | either* |
| 19:37.52 | Wormy | I know that virtual particles exist because of the uncertainty principle, but what if momentons are the technical cause of them? |
| 19:38.59 | Ghel | I think that might majorly effect the equations of quantum field theory, which are already well-tested. AFAIK, virtual particles are supposed to all be positively-massed particle-antiparticle pairs. |
| 19:39.26 | Ghel | Positively-energied* |
| 19:39.58 | Ghel | With the exception of one possible explanation of Hawking radiation, but in that case, the conversion to negative mass happens retrospectively when one is absorbed by the black hole. |
| 19:43.27 | Wormy | Both the particle and antiparticle have positive masses, its possible that both spawn with negative mass. As you say, even if this happens, there is net zero attraction |
| 19:44.20 | Zmr56 | wut, someone has a monster called Testie Touch |
| 19:44.26 | Zmr56 | My Gawd |
| 19:44.31 | Zmr56 | bleh |
| 19:45.36 | Zmr56 | And now theres 'Blue Asshole' |
| 19:45.57 | Zmr56 | These people are messed up |
| 19:49.37 | Xho | http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120911185118/tf2freakshow/images/3/3e/NightmareMedicUserPortrait.jpg Time for Nightmare Medic |
| 19:51.19 | OluapWorker | looks dum like yo faic |
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| 19:56.41 | Wormy_ | test |
| 19:59.47 | Wormy | Simple things like energy, intertia and momentum can be quite strange when you think about them |
| 19:59.54 | Wormy | inertia |
| 20:05.18 | Ghel | Thinking about it, the "momenton" would be the ultimate tachyon - it's literally the same principle; decreasing energy with increasing speed past the speed of light, until there's zero energy at infinite speed. |
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| 20:05.25 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 20:05.44 | Technobliterator | hi. |
| 20:06.05 | Wormy | hi |
| 20:07.15 | Zmr56 | Hello |
| 20:07.50 | Zmr56 | I'm not sure if this game is messed up or the people who play it |
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| 20:08.36 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 20:08.38 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 20:09.12 | Wormy | I just compared it to a superbradyo, although those are particles with positive mass. |
| 20:09.17 | Wormy | bradyon |
| 20:09.50 | Ghel | One diagrammatical way to show a possible problem with the momenton comes from this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Energy-Mass-Momentum_Pythagorean_Relationship.jpg |
| 20:10.08 | Ghel | You can decrease pc to 0, in which case E = mc^2 and you have a massive particle at rest. |
| 20:10.23 | Ghel | Or you can decrease mc^2 to 0, in which case E = pc and you have a massless particle. |
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| 20:10.36 | Pinlike100SqRoot | ReCaptcha of the Day: myi galview |
| 20:10.40 | Ghel | But there's no way to get mc^2 or pc on their own, and no way to get rid of the energy. |
| 20:10.40 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Hi people! |
| 20:10.42 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 20:10.44 | Monet | Hello needles. |
| 20:10.51 | Wormy | hi |
| 20:10.54 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Hi |
| 20:11.09 | Ghel | So, I imagine a look at all of the equations might show a more fundamental issue with the idea of the "momenton". |
| 20:11.13 | *** join/#sporewiki Xho (5ac81162@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.200.17.98) |
| 20:11.19 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Xho! |
| 20:11.29 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 20:12.15 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Xho: Do you think that you could help me with a certain build once the Minecraft Serv gets booted up again? |
| 20:12.36 | Xho | I only have a small amount of time so i'll try |
| 20:13.08 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Once it is up, that is |
| 20:13.38 | Ghel | Wormy: And the Lorentz factor for a momenton would just be a mess... |
| 20:14.20 | Ghel | It's approximately 1/-infinity... |
| 20:14.59 | Ghel | No... approximately 1 over the square root of -infinity. |
| 20:15.40 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Xho: I'm planning on building a very large regional train terminal on the server. |
| 20:15.52 | Wormy | Infinities in equations are a general no-go area |
| 20:15.55 | Xho | You know we have a metro right? |
| 20:16.02 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Yes. |
| 20:16.06 | Ghel | This is what happens when something travels at infinite velocity. |
| 20:16.50 | Pinlike100SqRoot | It (the terminal) would be the hub of multiple routes. |
| 20:17.34 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Long-distance routes. And other metro routes, possibly. |
| 20:18.02 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577078_10151191274424238_2028155357_n.jpg |
| 20:19.30 | Zmr56 | The man just wants to have a heart to heart talk about faith |
| 20:21.09 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Xho: The planned train terminal would look very much like this --->http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Penn_Station3.jpg |
| 20:24.45 | Monet | I haven't been able to get onto the server, has anyone taken by house plan into consideration? |
| 20:29.19 | Xho | Oh god |
| 20:29.23 | Xho | That's huge |
| 20:29.32 | Xho | Monet: I built a house with a similar outside to it |
| 20:30.09 | Monet | Cool. |
| 20:31.31 | Xho | It's smaller than the house you made because it's directly opposite it and Cathedral wall and such |
| 20:31.44 | Monet | Before I stopped I was buidling a three-storey house next to the citadel. |
| 20:32.40 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Xho: I know, right? Massive as Hell. |
| 20:33.44 | Wormy | Is the server on now? |
| 20:35.16 | Monet | Not every house has to be the same height. |
| 20:35.42 | Monet | THe ground outside the Cathedral wall seemed a little empty. |
| 20:35.44 | Pinlike100SqRoot | I don't think so... |
| 20:35.48 | Pinlike100SqRoot | ~seen Catface |
| 20:36.01 | infobot | catface <44590046@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.89.0.70> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 22h 28m ago, saying: 'WHO ME?'. |
| 20:36.01 | Pinlike100SqRoot | DAMMEET |
| 20:36.08 | Pinlike100SqRoot | INFOBOT ISN'T PLUS- oh, still works. |
| 20:36.27 | Pinlike100SqRoot | No, it isn't on. |
| 20:36.45 | Pinlike100SqRoot | When was the serv on last?! |
| 20:37.58 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Does anybody even know? |
| 20:38.34 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Nu |
| 20:39.10 | Wormy | yay |
| 20:39.15 | Pinlike100SqRoot | (Please no more quits, please no more quits...) |
| 20:39.23 | *** part/#sporewiki Wormy (1f34d1d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.52.209.208) |
| 20:41.09 | Pinlike100SqRoot | NUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 20:41.11 | Pinlike100SqRoot | DAM |
| 20:41.19 | Pinlike100SqRoot | GAHD |
| 20:44.48 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Does anybody know when was the server on last? |
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| 20:46.33 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Thank you for being back! |
| 20:47.01 | Wormy | hi |
| 20:47.40 | Pinlike100SqRoot | So... Do you know when the server was last online? |
| 20:48.46 | Monet | I don't know hwen the server was last on. |
| 20:49.23 | Wormy | I need to get on with War of Hyperspace anyway lol |
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| 20:50.46 | Zmr56 | dum IRC |
| 20:51.18 | Wormy | hi |
| 20:51.32 | Pinlike100SqRoot | I need to get a First Contact story written in relation to the Valta'Kraelae entity (The Tavalta'Aena now has its own V'Ger (note that it is not part of the T'A anymore due to a strange disconnect and independence from them now)...) |
| 20:52.43 | Wormy | ngh bracketception |
| 20:52.51 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Exactly. |
| 20:53.35 | Pinlike100SqRoot | √ |
| 20:53.46 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Did I just... Yes I did. |
| 20:54.41 | Zmr56 | Deemunish Deemun |
| 20:55.35 | Zmr56 | gamust gosleep now bai |
| 20:56.22 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Wormy: Do you think that this First Contact thing could somehow work its way into the War of Hyperspace, even as a sort of subplot? |
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| 20:57.23 | Pinlike100SqRoot | TWINKY HAI |
| 20:57.23 | Wormy | quite possiby |
| 20:57.32 | Wormy | hi |
| 20:57.35 | Twinky | who are you |
| 20:57.40 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Needles_10 |
| 20:57.45 | Pinlike100SqRoot | On the SporeWiki |
| 20:57.50 | Twinky | and who are you? |
| 20:57.55 | Pinlike100SqRoot | I've heard about your stoof |
| 20:58.18 | Pinlike100SqRoot | I am Needles_10, yes. |
| 20:58.19 | Twinky | and? |
| 20:58.30 | Pinlike100SqRoot | And I am working on fics |
| 20:59.19 | Pinlike100SqRoot | I really like dem Shellious... |
| 21:01.14 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Wormy: Would it work in as being a subplot or a plot? |
| 21:01.40 | Twinky | gtg |
| 21:02.31 | Pinlike100SqRoot | 'Kay |
| 21:02.34 | Wormy | subplot |
| 21:02.38 | Pinlike100SqRoot | kay |
| 21:02.49 | Pinlike100SqRoot | So, where could we start? |
| 21:03.42 | Wormy | Not straight away but when the conflict starts probably |
| 21:04.21 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Well, just with First Contact? |
| 21:05.02 | Wormy | I don't know I don't have much 'meat on the bones' so to speak yet for the fiction |
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| 21:19.22 | Catface | Hello |
| 21:24.15 | Wormy_away | hi |
| 21:25.43 | Pinlike100SqRoot | True, I do have to do more development... |
| 21:25.50 | Pinlike100SqRoot | CATFACE |
| 21:25.52 | Pinlike100SqRoot | :"DDD |
| 21:25.54 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Serv |
| 21:25.56 | Pinlike100SqRoot | pweese |
| 21:26.17 | Catface | Okay |
| 21:30.58 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Thanks! |
| 21:31.20 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Can others get on, too? |
| 21:32.51 | Wormy_away | I plan to, though I'll be doing my own thing |
| 21:33.17 | Pinlike100SqRoot | I've built a house. UNDERGROUND |
| 21:33.27 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Partially visible. |
| 21:33.30 | Wormy_away | I'm building a city underground lol |
| 21:33.35 | Wormy_away | In a trench |
| 21:34.11 | Monet | I might be going soon. |
| 21:36.33 | Catface | holds on Monet |
| 21:39.41 | Monet | What? |
| 21:40.08 | Catface | I'll miss you if you leave! |
| 21:40.32 | Catface | Who will protect me from the nasty people like Techno! |
| 21:40.53 | Technobliterator | who me? |
| 21:41.17 | Catface | cries in a corner |
| 21:41.36 | Technobliterator | hey im not that bad :c |
| 21:41.40 | Monet | pats Catface to comfort him |
| 21:42.01 | Monet | You don't have to be scared of your big sister. |
| 21:42.18 | Catface | WHAAA |
| 21:42.23 | Catface | kills himself |
| 21:42.32 | Catface | Okay I'm done |
| 21:42.44 | Catface | Techno: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwinjO2tpDw |
| 21:43.40 | *** join/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda (7cb18bf7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.177.139.247) |
| 21:43.47 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Panda! |
| 21:43.49 | AdmiralPanda | Hello |
| 21:43.51 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Serv's up! |
| 21:44.08 | Catface | Panderr |
| 21:45.33 | *** join/#sporewiki Liquid_Ink (79d0badc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.208.186.220) |
| 21:45.52 | Liquid_Ink | Hello. |
| 21:47.08 | Wormy_away | Hello and hi |
| 21:59.02 | *** join/#sporewiki GreatDestroyer12 (70ca83e3@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.112.202.131.227) |
| 22:01.46 | *** join/#sporewiki qwebirc121029 (70ca83e3@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.112.202.131.227) |
| 22:01.54 | qwebirc121029 | hello all |
| 22:02.10 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Oh hi der |
| 22:02.31 | GD12 | ~seen Ghelae |
| 22:02.41 | infobot | ghelae <56a72130@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.167.33.48> was last seen on IRC in channel #cyrannus, 15h 2m 12s ago, saying: '~hi'. |
| 22:05.35 | Pinlike100SqRoot | WOOOOAAAHH... |
| 22:05.41 | GD12 | what? |
| 22:05.43 | Pinlike100SqRoot | This terminal will be huge |
| 22:06.28 | AdmiralPanda | hits GD12 in the GD12 with a GD12 * |
| 22:06.48 | GD12 | wutlol |
| 22:07.15 | GD12 | hits AdmiralPanda in the AdmiralPanda with a AdmiralPanda |
| 22:07.26 | AdmiralPanda | Exactly |
| 22:07.48 | Liquid_Ink | hits Liquid_Ink in the Liquid_Ink with GD12 and AdmiralPanda. |
| 22:08.02 | AdmiralPanda | Now I'm all wet. |
| 22:08.25 | AdmiralPanda | And I'm black in parts that aren't normally black. |
| 22:08.40 | Liquid_Ink | Erotic. |
| 22:09.17 | AdmiralPanda | Ew |
| 22:09.30 | AdmiralPanda | flies away on a winged Dvottie |
| 22:10.13 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Guess wat |
| 22:10.24 | Liquid_Ink | Why? |
| 22:10.52 | Pinlike100SqRoot | The Terminal will be approximately 122 Blocks Long and 71 Blocks Wide... |
| 22:10.58 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Approximately. |
| 22:11.03 | AdmiralPanda | Meh |
| 22:12.09 | GD12 | time to add some more stoof to the LEZIA PET STIPI |
| 22:12.24 | Pinlike100SqRoot | You know it is going to look something like this in the end >>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Penn_Station3.jpg |
| 22:14.36 | GD12 | ~seen Ghel |
| 22:14.40 | infobot | ghel <56a72130@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.167.33.48> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 1h 58m 34s ago, saying: 'This is what happens when something travels at infinite velocity.'. |
| 22:17.49 | Liquid_Ink | ...shit happen? |
| 22:18.10 | Pinlike100SqRoot | Heheh |
| 22:18.44 | Pinlike100SqRoot | The Terminal will look something like this when it is completed. But it will have to require some major terraforming... >>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Penn_Station3.jpg |
| 22:19.03 | Pinlike100SqRoot | But I don't want to mess up the river. Tunnels, dur. |
| 22:30.59 | GD12 | test |
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| 22:38.57 | NightZebra | hi |
| 22:39.11 | NightZebra | It's me, Zmr56 |
| 22:40.20 | Zmr56 | ... |
| 22:40.33 | Zmr56 | BATMAAAAN!? |
| 22:46.44 | *** join/#sporewiki Aquilo (322ffd1a@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.50.47.253.26) |
| 23:23.29 | *** join/#sporewiki Turtle_ (44e4964b@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.68.228.150.75) |
| 23:25.01 | Aquilo | test |
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| 23:27.08 | Aquilo | Hello |
| 23:27.12 | ColorfulCuttlefi | hi |
