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15:11.09 | Ghelae | ~hi |
15:11.09 | infobot | hello, ghelae |
15:11.24 | Ghelae | ~how are you? |
15:11.24 | infobot | eh, ok, Ghelae |
15:11.32 | Wormy | Does anybody want to enter Hilight's competition with me? You only have today and tomorrow to build however http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=advasrch-+tags%24%22dascsummer2012%22%3Afl-NEWEST |
15:12.02 | Monet | Crap. I was wondering abotu entering. |
15:12.32 | Wormy | You can do what you like, but it must be derived from these parts, the only rule is not to remove them http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=advasrch-+tags%24%22dascsummer2012%22%3Aidx-20%3Afl-NEWEST |
15:16.40 | *** join/#sporewiki Catface (46f2a3e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.242.163.231) |
15:16.49 | Catface | Hi |
15:17.25 | Ghelae | Hello. |
15:18.11 | Monet | Okay so whatever I build it has to contain those three components on design-a-ship part I or II? |
15:23.04 | Catface | Has anyone every misread something? |
15:23.10 | Catface | Ever |
15:23.17 | Catface | Dammit words! |
15:23.18 | Xho | Many times |
15:23.26 | Xho | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/25/Kicathnewconcepts.png also possible new look for the Kicath |
15:23.37 | Wormy | Monet: Part II |
15:24.08 | Wormy | Hello Catface |
15:24.15 | Catface | Hi |
15:24.15 | Hachi_ | Dammit Xho, you need to teach me the art of Spore |
15:24.23 | Hachi_ | I'm shit in creature creator |
15:24.53 | Catface | From what I learned you just gotta mess around with it until you find a way to make your things look good. |
15:24.57 | Hachi_ | Ship creator, I think I'm okay in |
15:25.11 | Xho | I've been making those Kicath for over an hour trying to get the best possible look |
15:25.22 | Xho | It's really on how you spend your time |
15:25.38 | Wormy | Monet: My link didn't work for some reason http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Hilight%7C2264009431%3Asast-500857455895 |
15:25.53 | Xho | About 50 of those minutes was trying to get the skin texture right |
15:26.14 | GreatDestroyer12 | made a new turret |
15:27.44 | Monet | I must have spent a good two hours on that building. |
15:28.34 | Catface | My back hurts. |
15:28.37 | Wormy | I spend about 2 hours on that spaceship, some of it last night, some of it today |
15:29.29 | Catface | Wormy: I think I'm going to edit a part of our Slendy story here before long. |
15:31.55 | Wormy | cool, okay |
15:35.37 | Wormy | ~bored |
15:35.37 | infobot | La ... lalalala ... beer! |
15:35.59 | Wormy | Don't have any beer. |
15:36.08 | Wormy | ~boring |
15:36.08 | infobot | yes, you are wormy |
15:36.16 | Wormy | ~no u |
15:36.58 | Wormy | Infobot doesn't play that game then. |
15:37.27 | Wormy | ~sing to me |
15:37.34 | Wormy | ~sing |
15:37.34 | infobot | I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea! |
15:37.48 | Catface | Bad infobot! |
15:37.51 | Wormy | ~play with me |
15:37.59 | Wormy | ~play |
15:37.59 | infobot | and now, for something completely different |
15:40.30 | Catface | ~eat Wormy |
15:40.30 | infobot | ACTION slurps up all the Wormy available |
15:40.46 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
15:41.03 | Wormy | BTW, some n00b contacted me on Spore last night |
15:41.20 | Wormy | MagicUser83 commented "Don't suck up to Excalibur anymore, I've learned his secret check out my latest creation to learn about that fiend" |
15:41.35 | Catface | wat |
15:41.47 | Wormy | http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-500858135845 |
15:42.08 | Wormy | I told him I didn't give a damn what goes on in the MPN |
15:42.17 | Wormy | So he contacted the wrong guy |
15:45.08 | Wormy | GreatDestroyer12: Is this your ship? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Spore_2012-07-16_00-49-34.png It's quite good |
15:45.14 | Wormy | the bigger one |
15:45.16 | Catface | Wormy: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Der_Gro%C3%9Fmann/Tales#Richard_Blauvelt:_Journal_Entry_.237_Date:_May-8-2784 |
15:45.22 | Wormy | yay |
15:46.03 | Wormy | Cool I'll write mine in a bit |
15:46.42 | Catface | k. Things are about to go down. |
15:48.50 | GreatDestroyer12 | yup |
15:48.53 | GreatDestroyer12 | its my ship |
15:49.07 | Monet | I don't want that flying at me. |
15:49.15 | GreatDestroyer12 | i wanted it to be a departure from earlier Drakodominatus design |
15:49.54 | GreatDestroyer12 | 25km of Norse Sea Monster Myth in space heading right at oyu |
15:50.31 | Monet | I think I will make an adventure based in Araveene. |
15:51.24 | GreatDestroyer12 | thanks for the compliment wormy |
15:51.33 | Wormy | thats okay |
15:54.17 | GreatDestroyer12 | the kraken is supposed to represent a new wave of Drakodominatus ship designing thought |
15:55.05 | Wormy | Do the tentacle/cable things move? |
15:55.42 | GreatDestroyer12 | in fiction? or in game? |
15:55.48 | Wormy | In fiction |
15:56.31 | GreatDestroyer12 | they are supposed to be the hyperlasers of the kraken |
15:56.48 | GreatDestroyer12 | they can move |
15:57.18 | Monet | TO make things interesting, I will set it in the undersections of Araveene. |
15:57.47 | Monet | For the same reason the Doctor never took martha Jones to the topside of New Earth. |
15:58.16 | Wormy | Thus guy is cool, if you are lucky you'll spot him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didi_Senft |
15:59.26 | Wormy | http://www.mtb-windhaag.com/uploads/pics/senft_news.bbc.co.uk_01.jpg |
16:01.42 | Monet | You always get at least one crazy. |
16:02.08 | Catface | What is wrong with crazy? |
16:03.05 | Wormy | http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/tdf_07_24/t25_19701607.jpg |
16:03.25 | Monet | Nothing, grazy is good most of the time. |
16:03.29 | Wormy | Lol look Catface http://rollandrock.typepad.com/davidbach/images/2008/04/11/guitar_bike_didi_senft_b.jpg |
16:03.36 | Monet | Issac newton and Galileio were crazy. |
16:03.46 | Catface | lawlz |
16:04.18 | GreatDestroyer12 | have you guys seen a beautiful mind? |
16:04.59 | Wormy | Oh this guy is awesome http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Didi_Senft_06.jpg http://i.usatoday.net/sports/gallery/2010/05/04/s100504_08puckman-pg-horizontal.JPG http://online.wsj.com/media/0324pod15.jpg |
16:05.40 | Wormy | beautiful in what way? |
16:06.18 | Catface | I bet he would be an awesome grandpa. |
16:06.26 | Wormy | I know of math genius's who's mathematics are so complex and elegant beyond my understanding |
16:06.44 | GreatDestroyer12 | well its about the mind of john nash |
16:06.53 | Wormy | And my understanding of maths is terrible |
16:07.24 | Wormy | Ah yes, a mathematician |
16:09.17 | Wormy | Not seen the movie |
16:09.58 | GreatDestroyer12 | john nash has got to be one of my fave mathematicians |
16:10.14 | Wormy | Some idiots threw tacs on the road in the Tour De France causing loads of punctures |
16:10.21 | Wormy | Yeserday |
16:11.14 | Wormy | One of mine favourite mathematicians was the one (Kant?) who's maths turned him insane |
16:11.23 | GreatDestroyer12 | Immanuel kant was a philosopher |
16:11.36 | Wormy | I think he was working on hyperdimensional cubes |
16:11.43 | GreatDestroyer12 | tesseracts? |
16:11.56 | Wormy | Yeah |
16:12.28 | GreatDestroyer12 | hmm i wouldnt know |
16:12.40 | GreatDestroyer12 | dimensional mathematics has always astounded me |
16:12.54 | Wormy | I think I'm thinking of Cantor |
16:13.10 | Catface | Wormy Monet: This is what traditional Tralor music would sound like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EXzfpS6WK4 |
16:13.21 | GreatDestroyer12 | mebbe |
16:13.30 | GreatDestroyer12 | but dimensional mathematics would solve m theory |
16:15.30 | Catface | test |
16:15.33 | Ghelae | Hello. |
16:15.35 | Catface | Hi |
16:16.07 | Wormy | GD12: This program was includes Georg Cantor's whose maths sent him insane Dangerous Knowledge - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIYh6zJeutk |
16:17.13 | GreatDestroyer12 | math is all about discerning patterns, and if you are mathematical enough to discern even the most infitesmal ones |
16:17.19 | GreatDestroyer12 | your life turns into hp lovecraft |
16:18.15 | Wormy | Cat: Sounds like music from Indonesia, in particular "Pacific Ring of Fire" series |
16:18.52 | Catface | Because it is Indonesian music :V |
16:19.27 | Wormy | I am interested in mathematics and how it relates to the universes's physical laws. But I have no understanding of maths, you see, I'm probably discalculic |
16:19.55 | GreatDestroyer12 | mathematics is all about discerning patterns within sets of data |
16:20.08 | Hachi_ | I thought Maths was about numbers |
16:20.09 | GreatDestroyer12 | and it is upon the generalizations of those patterns that we derive applied sciences |
16:20.35 | GreatDestroyer12 | the patterns are represented as symbols, numbers. and operators |
16:21.26 | Wormy | However, is the mathematics inside our brain, or is mathematics the actual universe with the physical side of things in our brain? |
16:21.42 | Ghelae | I would say that maths is ultimately about numbers, but numbers are complicated. :P |
16:21.59 | Xho | 2 + 2 = IMPOSSIBRU |
16:22.06 | Xho | Hey that rhymes |
16:22.08 | GreatDestroyer12 | numbers are just a way to represent patterns |
16:22.09 | Monet | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P6em8hTchY&feature=relmfu I know its' predictable but this is draconis music. |
16:22.26 | Wormy | Can there be a universe without mathematic, or one where 2+5= 9 |
16:22.37 | GreatDestroyer12 | mathematics is a self defining thing |
16:22.46 | GreatDestroyer12 | thats why you have euclidean and non euclidean geometry |
16:22.57 | Ghelae | Yes. I've mentioned about the "2+5=9" thing before; it's false by definition. |
16:23.12 | Wormy | The whole within itself? |
16:23.20 | Wormy | Ruled by itself |
16:23.22 | GreatDestroyer12 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pFsMqVr3B8 |
16:23.25 | GreatDestroyer12 | drakodominatus music |
16:23.31 | GreatDestroyer12 | self defining system |
16:23.48 | Monet | They do have an instrument thet you hold like a double-bass. The 'bow' is an adjustable v-shaped prong so it is possible to play both the low and high notes of that tune with a single instrument. |
16:23.57 | Wormy | But then, thats only one way of looking things. |
16:23.59 | Ghelae | Essentially, "2" is defined as "1+1"; "5" is defined as "1+1+1+1+1"; and "9" is defined as "1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1". |
16:24.03 | GreatDestroyer12 | the drako piece is actually my favorite piano piece |
16:24.06 | GreatDestroyer12 | i just learned it |
16:25.05 | Ghelae | A hypothetical mathematical system where "2+5=9" would therefore be one where 1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1, or 1+1=0. |
16:25.15 | Xho | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f8/Kithworto16072012.png New Kithworto |
16:25.21 | Ghelae | That explanation was a bit unnecessary, actually. :P |
16:25.36 | Wormy | There are interpretations of universes that could be mathematically abstract asn impossible, in Brian Greene's book these are described. |
16:25.39 | Ghelae | Basically, mathematical facts such as 1+1=2 are created from definition, not deduced by experiments. |
16:25.46 | Hachi_ | New Kithworto looks fat |
16:26.23 | Xho | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/25/Kicathnewconcepts.png Essentially the same build as this |
16:26.55 | Monet | I'm not changing his design in the pic. |
16:27.00 | Monet | Too late for that now. |
16:27.17 | Xho | If you're using his Omega state then no need |
16:27.32 | Catface | Wormy: Indonesian metal www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOtI-u3hcIw |
16:27.33 | Ghelae | Wormy: I figured Wikipedia would have a page on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mathematics |
16:27.34 | Wormy | Ghelae/GD12: Maybe there is a filtering meta-law that only allows for universes without non-computing alogrithims/problems |
16:27.40 | Ghelae | I'm sure you might find something in there. |
16:27.50 | Xho | I doubt you would have had to change much anyway, Kicath are just more muscular |
16:28.11 | Wormy | Thus, only logical maths can exist |
16:28.53 | Wormy | That would imply thisa universe is computable... And possibly simulated |
16:29.02 | Monet | Xho: I'm not |
16:29.17 | GreatDestroyer12 | well wormy remember xeelee |
16:29.21 | Xho | " I doubt you would have had to change much anyway" |
16:29.23 | GreatDestroyer12 | i forgot the race that loved math |
16:29.23 | Monet | Xho: AFAIK he never entered his omega state abttling TCC |
16:29.31 | GreatDestroyer12 | the xeelee made perfect mathverse for them |
16:29.31 | Xho | Hm |
16:29.38 | Wormy | Ah yes |
16:29.51 | Monet | All I need to do is a background so meh. |
16:29.54 | Xho | Kithworto *might* have but I can't remember |
16:29.58 | Wormy | They made a "heaven" of mathematical perfection for the Silver Ghosts |
16:30.48 | Wormy | But then, the Squeem in the Xeelee Sequence don't have a concept of maths |
16:30.51 | GreatDestroyer12 | meaning if the silver ghosts really pissed the xeelee off or just got bad luck of the draw |
16:31.01 | GreatDestroyer12 | they could get math hell |
16:31.16 | Wormy | I don't thinkthe Xeelee punish. |
16:31.30 | GreatDestroyer12 | good point |
16:31.44 | GreatDestroyer12 | as long as your baryonic its hey bro, go through the ring |
16:32.00 | Wormy | They mostly ignore most races entirely alien to them, but they showed compassion in the end making the Ring and "heavens" for bayronic life |
16:32.45 | Xho | http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0a/AgentAlphaNew.png Now Alpha looks big in comparison |
16:33.05 | GreatDestroyer12 | too bad they were outnumbered by photino birds |
16:33.19 | GreatDestroyer12 | all things being equal it is all about nubmers |
16:33.54 | Wormy | In the first Human-Xeelee war, humans were a minor annoyance, in the second, the Xeelee scourged Humanity, and put them in a spacetime prison. But there was a 4D escape hatch for future humans to escape from if they were clever enough too, and a waiting Xeelee ship on the other side ferried Humanity to a new universe. |
16:35.22 | Wormy | The Xeelee ship entered a very young universe with few elements heavier than lithium, but it literally fused elements and built a star system, planet and ecosystem from scratch in days. |
16:35.34 | GreatDestroyer12 | xeelee are awesome |
16:35.49 | GreatDestroyer12 | they epitomize "any sufficiently advacned technology" |
16:36.31 | Wormy | I imagine this was "human heaven", since they would be the first life, and possibly rise to become Xeelee-like themselves. The planet's ecosystem was derived from human (and bacterial flora) genes, so the planet's ecosystem had human-looking organisms. |
16:37.19 | GreatDestroyer12 | you guys are familiar with machine learning right? |
16:37.34 | Wormy | machine learing? nope |
16:38.00 | GreatDestroyer12 | basically its the field of computer science that allows a computer to do someithng its not explicitly programmed to do |
16:38.28 | GreatDestroyer12 | one of the types is called undirected machine learning, in which a machine will go through data and discern patterns |
16:38.55 | GreatDestroyer12 | what im wondering is when we have the singularity, whether machines will automatically see humans are violent creatures and go termiantor on us |
16:40.09 | Wormy | Ah yes, I have heard of it. |
16:40.27 | GreatDestroyer12 | because machines will go to wiki check out human actions and see that we are opportunistic animals |
16:40.34 | GreatDestroyer12 | copy that, and screw us over |
16:41.14 | Wormy | I think the AI will be indifferent to us, it may not even know outside it's bottled existence, let alone us. Unfortunately, that may also mean, we have atoms which it can use for it's own purposes which is bad for us. |
16:41.37 | GreatDestroyer12 | i think best case is a benevolent dictatorsip |
16:41.54 | Wormy | I simply think we shoudn't make AI's. |
16:42.09 | GreatDestroyer12 | if we never make ais we never hit post scarcity |
16:42.12 | GreatDestroyer12 | thats my opinion |
16:42.31 | Wormy | I mean, there is no point really. We have to be fair to the AI when we create it, we can't use it like a normal computer. |
16:42.56 | Catface | Wormy: Tom Waits is a cool guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHn_Kb4Dz40 |
16:43.06 | GreatDestroyer12 | the other solution is imo artificial evolution |
16:43.07 | Wormy | If we want to learn about conciousness, perhaps we should begin to reverse engineer the human brain. |
16:43.15 | GreatDestroyer12 | make faster stronger better humans |
16:43.16 | Ghelae | Perhaps these depend on what we mean by an "AI". |
16:43.18 | GreatDestroyer12 | and smarter |
16:43.28 | Ghelae | GD12: Transhumanism? |
16:44.03 | Wormy | Of course, but you know what I mean - Concious strong AI |
16:44.04 | Monet | "love they machine" was a phrase used by one of my classmates. |
16:44.13 | Monet | thy* |
16:44.18 | GreatDestroyer12 | ya |
16:44.45 | Wormy | I think it is far better to use Swarm Mind computing/robotics |
16:44.57 | Hachi_ | Artificial = not real, so artificial intelligence = not real intelligence, not real intelligence = stupidity? |
16:45.16 | Ghelae | Artificial things are still real. :P |
16:45.16 | Wormy | But then again, maybe the swarm intelligence starts to become concious on its own. |
16:46.27 | Ghelae | It's difficult to ascribe possible motivations and personalities to potential artificial intelligences. |
16:46.39 | Wormy | Humans can already create biological intelligence naturally. Clever machine = meh |
16:46.48 | GreatDestroyer12 | if with machinelearnign they just emulate human thought |
16:46.51 | GreatDestroyer12 | we are all fucked |
16:47.10 | Ghelae | Depends on the humans the emulate. |
16:47.12 | Ghelae | they* |
16:47.34 | Wormy | Also, AI's are only powerful if they are routed up to powerful things. |
16:48.01 | GreatDestroyer12 | we'll just have a bunch of hippies in their test room |
16:48.08 | GreatDestroyer12 | and make sure it's not below a military base |
16:48.19 | Ghelae | Exactly. |
16:48.42 | Wormy | An AI could be bottled into a self-existence. The internet, if it evolved sentience may not be aware of us or anything outside it, at least for a long time. |
16:48.43 | Ghelae | Oh, and make sure that the powerful thing that they're routed up to can be easily switched off. :D |
16:48.56 | GreatDestroyer12 | you guys read Robapocalypse? |
16:49.01 | Ghelae | No. |
16:49.05 | Wormy | Nope |
16:49.36 | GreatDestroyer12 | its by a guy from carnegie melon phd in robotics |
16:49.42 | Catface | Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can ruin your reputation. |
16:50.05 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
16:50.09 | GreatDestroyer12 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robopocalypse |
16:50.19 | GreatDestroyer12 | animatrix was cool |
16:50.31 | GreatDestroyer12 | but the book iwas talking about is basically what i was concerned about with ai |
16:50.47 | GreatDestroyer12 | i remmeber animatrix too, i wonder if i an make battle pics like that |
16:51.54 | Wormy | I might join, as I am Anti-AI (strong) ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humans_United_Against_Robots |
16:51.59 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humans_United_Against_Robots |
16:52.18 | GreatDestroyer12 | my dad said we are close to singularity tho |
16:52.25 | GreatDestroyer12 | he was a software engineer from berkley |
16:52.29 | Wormy | I don't like robots very much |
16:52.31 | GreatDestroyer12 | with masters in columbia |
16:52.46 | Wormy | Never ever liked AI's since I watched Animatrix. |
16:52.59 | Wormy | Terminator was the final straw |
16:53.13 | GreatDestroyer12 | its because the american public likes conflict movies |
16:53.26 | GreatDestroyer12 | none of those every portray robots as being nice or altruistic |
16:53.29 | Monet | Heheh. |
16:53.38 | Ghelae | I doubt anybody would be stupid enough to program such a powerful AI with an overwhelming survival instinct. |
16:53.51 | Monet | DARPA |
16:54.03 | GreatDestroyer12 | hur me going to kill some al quada hur |
16:54.04 | Ghelae | Or, those people who would probably don't have degrees in artificial intelligence. |
16:54.07 | GreatDestroyer12 | ah shit it turned agaisnt me |
16:54.25 | Ghelae | DARPA are insane, yes... |
16:54.38 | Wormy | GD12: Have you heard of Grey Goo? |
16:54.49 | GreatDestroyer12 | yup |
16:54.52 | GreatDestroyer12 | nanobots |
16:54.58 | Ghelae | Okay, military robots might be programmed with a survival instinct, but the robots themselves wouldn't be given control over the planet's nuclear weapons. :P |
16:55.22 | Wormy | "Imagine such a replicator floating in a bottle of chemicals, making copies of itself…the first replicator assembles a copy in one thousand seconds, the two replicators then build two more in the next thousand seconds, the four build another four, and the eight build another eight. At the end of ten hours, there are not thirty-six new replicators, but over 68 billion. |
16:55.31 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
16:55.39 | GreatDestroyer12 | von neumann was always my favorite mathematician |
16:55.47 | Wormy | --Eric Drexler |
16:56.13 | GreatDestroyer12 | but come up with coding such that no matter how much robots try to loophole |
16:56.21 | GreatDestroyer12 | they will fall into an infinete locgic loop |
16:56.50 | Ghelae | It'd be far better to make the robots so they *don't* try to loophole their programming. |
16:57.00 | Wormy | Early assembler-based replicators could beat the most advanced modern organisms. 'Plants' with 'leaves' no more efficient than today's solar cells could out-compete real plants, crowding the biosphere with an inedible foliage. Tough, omnivorous 'bacteria' could out-compete real bacteria: they could spread like blowing pollen, replicate swiftly, and reduce the biosphere to dust in a matter of days. Dangerous replicators could easily |
16:57.04 | Wormy | and rapidly spreading to stop — at least if we made no preparation. We have trouble enough controlling viruses and fruit flies. |
16:57.25 | GreatDestroyer12 | you remember that quote in matrix |
16:57.29 | GreatDestroyer12 | humans = virus |
16:57.44 | Ghelae | Yes. |
16:57.52 | Wormy | I'd rather not think about the Matrix |
16:58.07 | GreatDestroyer12 | ok |
16:58.28 | Ghelae | Don't worry, Wormy. I'm sure the NWO are developing anti-AI weapons as we speak. :P |
16:58.31 | Monet | I I've been working on inside a section of Araveene (the topmost level looks like this) http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120713121329/spore/images/0/03/Araveene.png ) and I came up with a solution for the underlevels. |
16:58.50 | GreatDestroyer12 | wormy look at this |
16:58.51 | GreatDestroyer12 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUE7BR7ovt0 |
16:59.34 | Wormy | Have you heard of the Invisible Hand of the Market? I think it is a symbiotic swarm mind that has already enslaved mankind http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4c19732e6203d |
16:59.52 | GreatDestroyer12 | adam smith? |
17:00.06 | Wormy | Who? |
17:00.13 | Monet | There is a lane of video projectors that simulate a sky, including the amount of light, clouds and appropriate EM wavelengths even though the region is several hundred metres within the superstructure |
17:00.17 | GreatDestroyer12 | ok not adam smith |
17:00.22 | GreatDestroyer12 | guy who wrote wealth of nations |
17:00.33 | GreatDestroyer12 | its just the invisible hand was one of his great theories |
17:01.04 | GreatDestroyer12 | i personally think we could enter a perfect stage 4 marxist society utopia with the singularity |
17:01.22 | GreatDestroyer12 | once all resource conflicts are solved, things will eventaully sette to that i beleive |
17:01.41 | Wormy | All hail the Almighty $ at your local bank! The sacred Fluid One, feed his brainpower in the local market with your're prices! |
17:02.10 | Monet | Needless to say, the amount of solar collectors around the parent star constitutes to a dyson swarm. |
17:02.55 | Catface | I did some editing to the Tralor cluture http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Tralor#Culture |
17:03.01 | Catface | OP will be proud. |
17:04.00 | Wormy | Nature is full of distributed minds, from flocks of birds to synchronous fireflies. |
17:04.19 | GreatDestroyer12 | praise the uLE |
17:04.48 | Wormy | And so must the human environment, perhaps in our behavoir? In our market? The cities and roads? Maybe even the internet? And we don't even realise. |
17:05.18 | Ghelae | It may depend on what you think of to be a "mind". |
17:05.46 | Ghelae | Any social organisation can process information. |
17:06.12 | Wormy | But does that become an intelligence? Consider the China Brain thought experiment |
17:06.22 | Ghelae | I know. |
17:06.27 | Ghelae | And that's my point. |
17:06.32 | Wormy | They may be somewhat empty, philosophical zombies |
17:06.42 | Xho | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/eb/KithwortoLarnus.png Kithworto speaks to Larnus |
17:06.44 | Ghelae | Well, that's another issue. |
17:07.15 | Wormy | And thats why I was adding question marks. I don't know if those collective synchronicities are minds or not |
17:07.39 | Ghelae | First are the distinctions - if there are any clear ones - between basic computation, sentience, sapience, and further on. Then another question is on the nature of consciousness. |
17:07.50 | Xho | Monet: beep |
17:08.13 | Monet | Looks good. |
17:08.56 | Monet | I liek the feel of the building. Very gritty. |
17:09.01 | Wormy | But all of them are examples of organisation which as a collective supports all individuals like a whole. We see this when we look at flocks of birds computing a greater than individual optimisation - survival from predators using numbers and a collective intelligence which could swarm over food |
17:09.09 | Hachi_ | New Kicath look fat imo, no offence |
17:09.15 | Hachi_ | I preferred their earlier look |
17:09.24 | Xho | they were stick thin |
17:09.32 | Catface | They became American. |
17:09.35 | Hachi_ | olol |
17:09.59 | Xho | Great now i'm gonna hear Kithworto's voice in an American accent now |
17:10.17 | Hachi_ | Kithworto - Howdy partner |
17:10.33 | Catface | Bronx accent :> |
17:10.42 | GreatDestroyer12 | lol |
17:10.46 | GreatDestroyer12 | new york accent |
17:10.54 | GreatDestroyer12 | manhattanite accent |
17:11.03 | GreatDestroyer12 | one big mac please |
17:11.15 | Wormy | I think the simplist definition of conciousness is awareness. I think most of the animal kingdom is aware. |
17:11.51 | Hachi_ | Bat - I can't see shit lul |
17:11.52 | Wormy | I don't agree with much of a scientific community who seem to think that 99.9% of things are not aware |
17:12.27 | Ghelae | It's probably an issue with the definitions of "things" and "aware". |
17:12.31 | Monet | This is how I imagined the meeting: Kith - *sees larnus* Hm, alright lads game's off. *groans from the group* Not my problem. | Kicath - *stands up* You're using the Draconis to steal our credits? We keep playing | Kith - No | Kicath - *throws a punch* | Kith - I said game's off! *punches back*. Now. Where were we? |
17:12.55 | Ghelae | If "awareness" comes down to information-processing ability, then it could be said that one of the definitions of life itself is awareness. |
17:12.58 | Xho | Kicath - *motionless and embedded in a metal wall* |
17:14.13 | Xho | https://p.twimg.com/Ax7ERttCAAAc0-G.jpg:largewebchat.freenode.net Kicath don't seem huge to me |
17:14.31 | Xho | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120716152224/spore/images/2/25/Kicathnewconcepts.png Try again |
17:14.43 | Wormy | It might be that the awareness of some organisms is less important or more limited than others. |
17:15.01 | GreatDestroyer12 | i think its just obliviousness |
17:15.13 | GreatDestroyer12 | humans arent aware of what i think to be highrer life forms |
17:15.27 | GreatDestroyer12 | are perceptions are all so limited and it can be applied to the lowest ape |
17:15.37 | Wormy | There may well be higher forms of awareness |
17:16.09 | Monet | Xho: why exactly did you send a twitter link? |
17:16.25 | Xho | Hm dunno |
17:16.30 | Xho | I was on Twitter |
17:16.32 | Wormy | GD12: You might like this article http://www.rfreitas.com/Astro/Xenopsychology.htm |
17:17.00 | Wormy | Covers a lot of what we've discussed, even maths |
17:17.17 | GreatDestroyer12 | wyrmy |
17:18.49 | GreatDestroyer12 | xho when you made the name kicath, was it derived from kickass? |
17:18.54 | Xho | No. |
17:19.03 | Xho | The Kicath's name is from the random generator |
17:19.19 | Wormy_away | you know ive wondered the same thing |
17:26.45 | GreatDestroyer12 | xho, how did the kicath evolve to have spikes on their l limbs? |
17:30.01 | *** join/#sporewiki Imperios (b2424af9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.66.74.249) |
17:30.35 | Catface | Hi |
17:30.53 | Imperios | Hi |
17:31.02 | GreatDestroyer12 | hi |
17:31.41 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:32.17 | Imperios | Eh |
17:32.23 | Imperios | If Shellious are tier 2.1 |
17:32.34 | Imperios | Then why did they join Draconis as a protectorat3e |
17:34.09 | Imperios | Nnngh |
17:34.25 | Imperios | I feel that "peace through power" anti-hero empires are so common now in fictionverse |
17:34.43 | Xho | For defence |
17:34.44 | Xho | Same way a goat evolved horns |
17:35.30 | Catface | The ULE did it first! |
17:35.32 | Imperios | We have |
17:35.36 | Imperios | Yep, ULE iz old |
17:35.46 | Imperios | But DCP is... firster |
17:36.34 | Imperios | We have DCP, ULE, Kicath, Shka'Tun, the entire AGC triumvirate, UNO, Cyrannians to some extent... who else? |
17:38.31 | Ghelae | What types of "peace through _____" empires do you think we need more of? |
17:39.16 | Imperios | Yep |
17:39.18 | Imperios | Dur |
17:39.28 | GreatDestroyer12 | meh tyranny is kinda just anatgonistic |
17:39.32 | GreatDestroyer12 | the drako tyranny |
17:39.41 | Catface | Peace through trade! |
17:39.55 | Ghelae | Ah, peace through bribery. :P |
17:40.19 | Imperios | steals dis idea from Catface |
17:40.27 | Catface | lawl |
17:40.28 | Imperios | A powerful and strict trade coalition |
17:40.29 | Imperios | Gud gud |
17:40.32 | Imperios | Bludraven |
17:41.10 | Catface | But why can't we share the idea? :( |
17:41.11 | Ghelae | Are there many "peace through religion (or other common ideology)" empires, as opposed to ones that are simultaneously "peace through power"? |
17:41.34 | Catface | Peace through friendship! |
17:42.01 | Ghelae | FRA. Didn't work. |
17:42.32 | Catface | That was peace through handraep |
17:42.36 | Imperios | Dur |
17:42.36 | Ghelae | Though that was less "friendship" and more "stubbornly refusing to accept the existence of other cultures". |
17:44.08 | Imperios | Catface: Hmmmmmm |
17:44.12 | Imperios | Good idea as well |
17:44.48 | Imperios | The Solunar Republic |
17:44.56 | Imperios | Perhaps with a dark twist |
17:45.15 | Imperios | An empire which drugs its subjects with... Asgordifiying drugs |
17:45.27 | Ghelae | What would [[Fiction:The Civilisation/Society]] be? I suppose the hyperspace missile defence systems push it towards "peace through power", but that's not their main focus. |
17:45.28 | morgothBotPy | Ghelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Civilisation/Society |
17:46.17 | Imperios | Peace through wobos |
17:46.19 | Imperios | *wobots |
17:46.30 | Ghelae | Yeah, I guess so. |
17:51.37 | Ghelae | So we already have peace through power, peace through wobots, and peace through cultural insensitivity; next up are peace through trade and peace through friendship. |
17:52.06 | GreatDestroyer12 | we have peace through reprogramming of the mind |
17:52.27 | Ghelae | Ah, like with UNO. Peace through emotional suppression. |
17:52.49 | Xho | Peace through blowing up every last annoying motherfucker to pieces |
17:52.55 | OluapAway | UNO is designed to be internally chaotic though |
17:52.59 | OluapAway | So it's not really peace |
17:53.12 | GreatDestroyer12 | peace through nothing else being around |
17:53.21 | Xho | hugs Oluap and crushes his ribs in joy |
17:53.31 | Ghelae | "Peace" seems to be being used quite vaguely in this discussion. |
17:53.46 | GreatDestroyer12 | peace as in vaccum? |
17:53.54 | OluapWorker | dies with smile on faic |
17:54.38 | Xho | dat creepy shit |
17:54.59 | OluapWorker | u creepy shit |
17:55.02 | Xho | While you were gone I made new Kicath |
17:55.15 | Catface | OP I made an edit. |
17:55.26 | Xho | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120716152224/spore/images/2/25/Kicathnewconcepts.png dere |
17:55.28 | OluapWorker | Cool, now make 999 more |
17:55.32 | OluapWorker | nu Kickass |
17:55.45 | OluapWorker | dem sholders |
17:55.48 | OluapWorker | notbad.png |
17:55.59 | Xho | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120716162438/spore/images/f/f8/Kithworto16072012.png New Kithworto |
17:57.02 | OluapWorker | is gud |
17:57.05 | Xho | http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120716163115/spore/images/0/0a/AgentAlphaNew.png New Alpha |
17:57.15 | OluapWorker | is gud² |
17:57.20 | Xho | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120716163504/spore/images/8/83/AgentXiNew.png New Xi |
17:57.20 | Imperios | Xho: OH YAY THEY ARE SO AWESOME I WANT TO HAVE ONE AS A PET |
17:57.28 | OluapWorker | dum |
17:57.31 | Xho | smacks the Irsk out of Imperios |
17:57.38 | GreatDestroyer12 | a wild lezia will grab those kicath |
17:57.59 | Imperios | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH |
17:58.10 | OluapWorker | Back to busy |
17:58.15 | Xho | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/eb/KithwortoLarnus.png And then Larnus taking to Kithworto |
17:58.18 | Xho | dum get bak heer |
17:59.02 | Imperios | Okay, seriously |
17:59.08 | Imperios | I like the bulky feel of them |
18:00.51 | Imperios | There is a demon in Warhammer |
18:01.06 | Imperios | It is very acidic and kills people by hugging and petting them to death |
18:01.19 | Imperios | Xho or Oluap should make these demons for the Legion |
18:01.54 | Xho | Not if it's Warhammer related |
18:02.07 | OluapWorker | and bak to heer |
18:02.18 | Imperios | Okay Xho |
18:02.25 | Imperios | I may relieve you |
18:02.28 | Xho | Although judging by that picture |
18:02.36 | OluapWorker | How tall is a Kicath again? |
18:02.40 | Imperios | There is a similar creature in a fanfiction not linked to Warhammer |
18:02.47 | Imperios | Except it is spiked |
18:02.51 | Xho | Kicath range from 3.52 - 4.12 m tall |
18:02.53 | Imperios | Instead of acidic |
18:02.54 | Xho | Most Kicath are 3.6 |
18:03.01 | Xho | Kithworto is about 3.65 |
18:03.17 | Monet | Kithworto is excused for being part-diety. |
18:03.29 | OluapWorker | Hm |
18:03.31 | Xho | *deity |
18:03.32 | Xho | hur |
18:03.40 | OluapWorker | Not sure if you didn't undersize Larnus in there |
18:03.50 | Xho | That's normal Spore size for Larnus |
18:04.05 | OluapWorker | Draconis are 3m tall or so |
18:04.06 | Monet | Yeah abotu that. |
18:04.13 | Xho | Oh right |
18:04.20 | Xho | Ngh i'll change it later |
18:04.25 | GreatDestroyer12 | 2.85? |
18:04.25 | Ghelae | Clearly, the Kicath are all closer to the camera than Larnus. |
18:04.36 | Monet | Current V3 draconis are 2.5m spore-wise but 2.8m in reality. |
18:04.53 | OluapWorker | I don't use Spore-wise size as canon |
18:05.02 | OluapWorker | If I did, most of my fiction would be smaller than humans |
18:05.04 | Imperios | Same |
18:05.18 | Xho | Hm I assumed the standard Spore size was the standard Draconis size |
18:05.43 | Monet | I have made a V4 closer to the actual size. |
18:06.13 | OluapWorker | Spore-wise I bet a Kicath would tower over a Loron, while in canon a Loron kid already towers over an adult Kicath |
18:06.13 | Monet | Also the Kicath just behind Kithworto looks like he just got hit on the head very hard. |
18:06.20 | Xho | You did? |
18:06.24 | Xho | Hm didn't see that on Spore |
18:06.31 | Monet | xho: I haven't uuplaoded them |
18:06.41 | Xho | i c |
18:06.56 | OluapWorker | Kicath - Can I be important? Kithworto - NU *splat* |
18:07.41 | Monet | I put a spore-size V4 Draconis and a modern Libertus side-by-side and they matched in height with a few cm difference. |
18:08.12 | Xho | I dunno what the modern Capricornian is now |
18:08.17 | Xho | Yes I said Capricornian deal with it |
18:08.25 | OluapWorker | Capricornian |
18:08.33 | OluapWorker | Which one of the 13 |
18:08.45 | Xho | Capricornian = Libertus |
18:09.18 | Xho | Really old skool name for them |
18:09.26 | OluapWorker | I know |
18:09.40 | Xho | den y u ask |
18:09.51 | OluapWorker | Because now Capricornian are the Libertus + 12 other waptor species |
18:09.57 | Xho | dum |
18:10.04 | OluapWorker | [[Fiction:Capricornians]] |
18:10.05 | morgothBotPy | OluapWorker meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Capricornians |
18:10.20 | OluapWorker | u so outdated |
18:10.23 | Xho | dum I was just looking at this page |
18:10.29 | OluapWorker | u lai |
18:10.32 | OluapWorker | hivemind lai |
18:10.35 | Xho | no rly |
18:13.04 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/483248_10151079629314574_836942188_n.jpg |
18:13.21 | Monet | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/19/Draconid_Hive_Interior.png today we look inside a Draconid arcology. |
18:13.51 | Monet | I should have added aliens but the structure is big, struse mt. |
18:14.40 | Xho | Monet: Check where your fingers are going |
18:14.51 | Imperios | That's a street right? |
18:15.03 | Monet | Imperios yes. |
18:15.14 | Monet | Xho: That was supposed t obe 'trust me'. |
18:15.19 | Monet | GAHHH! |
18:15.26 | Xho | C CHECK WHERE UR DAM FINGERS ARE GOING |
18:16.10 | Imperios | Xho: FAT UNICORNS HIDE IN METAL BOXES |
18:16.11 | Imperios | Hm |
18:16.22 | Imperios | That can make a double Xhoterrorception |
18:16.30 | Xho | Fat unicorns hiding in metal boxes |
18:16.31 | Monet | I know people can see sky cut I can provide an answer. |
18:16.37 | Xho | Oluap I have a new idea for you |
18:16.42 | Imperios | feeds Twilight with lots of food |
18:16.45 | OluapWorker | wat |
18:16.46 | Imperios | puts her in a metal box |
18:16.53 | Imperios | FATUNICRONCEPTION |
18:16.55 | Imperios | *UNICORN |
18:17.03 | OluapWorker | It's your idea so it's probably dum |
18:17.45 | Monet | Basically that 'sky' is a giant TV screen. |
18:18.48 | Xho | "Longest life:14:01 (as Engineer)" |
18:18.51 | Xho | How did I do that |
18:19.03 | OluapWorker | hax |
18:19.20 | Imperios | Hm |
18:19.25 | Imperios | ~whip Xho |
18:19.25 | infobot | ACTION takes Xho outside to be thoroughly whipped by imperios |
18:19.28 | OluapWorker | My stats are messed up due to achievement servers |
18:19.46 | Imperios | Where are Kicath colonies in Andromeda located |
18:19.54 | GreatDestroyer12 | ~throw GreatDestroyer12 |
18:19.54 | infobot | ACTION winds up and throws GreatDestroyer12 over the moon. |
18:20.02 | Xho | hur |
18:20.10 | Xho | I like Achievement servers |
18:20.14 | Xho | Is fun |
18:20.34 | Xho | "Most Damage: 87,946 (as Engineer)" - Oluap |
18:20.35 | Imperios | One of my friends hates 'em |
18:20.36 | Xho | geezush |
18:22.01 | Xho | How does 88,000 damage happen |
18:22.02 | Xho | just hao |
18:22.11 | GreatDestroyer12 | hax |
18:22.15 | Imperios | Gorf |
18:24.24 | GreatDestroyer12 | oh lol phase hunter made a reply |
18:28.31 | *** join/#sporewiki Xho_ (5ac81131@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.200.17.49) |
18:28.33 | Xho_ | dum |
18:31.08 | OluapWorker | Xho_: Scent Tree gun |
18:31.13 | OluapWorker | + a dozen bots |
18:31.44 | Xho_ | Oh dear y |
18:31.49 | Xho_ | Oh right achievement server |
18:31.54 | OluapWorker | cus farm acheevment |
18:31.56 | GreatDestroyer12 | ~kick GreatDestroyer12 |
18:31.56 | infobot | ACTION kicks GreatDestroyer12 |
18:31.59 | OluapWorker | Also cus y not |
18:32.04 | Xho_ | dunno |
18:32.04 | Catface | Tada! http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Mirus_Council#Leaders |
18:32.12 | GreatDestroyer12 | ~shove GreatDestroyer12 |
18:32.16 | Catface | Everyone look I made another edit! |
18:32.18 | Xho_ | I haven't been on a server like that for ages hur |
18:32.35 | Catface | Now can I eat Mr. OP? |
18:32.49 | OluapWorker | Yes, yes you may |
18:32.59 | Catface | yey |
18:33.10 | Catface | eats the flesh of a cow |
18:33.22 | Xho_ | moo |
18:33.31 | Xho_ | I need to play more TF2 |
18:33.55 | GreatDestroyer12 | the flesh of a metal cow? |
18:33.56 | OluapWorker | Yes you do |
18:34.00 | OluapWorker | Play with me |
18:34.03 | OluapWorker | on DAT server |
18:34.11 | Xho_ | Very well I will |
18:34.24 | Xho_ | Cause I have 8 weeks of fuck all to do |
18:34.33 | Catface | Who is your favorite UMC chancellor? |
18:34.36 | OluapWorker | i jelly |
18:34.43 | GreatDestroyer12 | parish guy |
18:35.25 | OluapWorker | Lorrod because he's a Plaidonir |
18:35.29 | GreatDestroyer12 | well im gonna sleep now guys |
18:35.31 | GreatDestroyer12 | night |
18:35.37 | OluapWorker | I should probably remake the Plaidonir |
18:35.37 | Xho_ | Whattamcwhat now |
18:35.42 | GreatDestroyer12 | its 2 35 am here now |
18:35.42 | OluapWorker | They took too simpru |
18:35.45 | *** part/#sporewiki GreatDestroyer12 (70ca9b61@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.112.202.155.97) |
18:35.58 | Xho_ | Unbereevabry simpru? |
18:36.08 | Catface | You can if you want lil' man, |
18:36.08 | OluapWorker | yus |
18:36.30 | Xho_ | Oh right United Mirus Council |
18:36.35 | Xho_ | I was wondering what UMC was |
18:36.47 | OluapWorker | fuk pay atenshun |
18:36.53 | Xho_ | Later. |
18:36.54 | Xho_ | :> |
18:37.27 | OluapWorker | dum hed |
18:39.19 | Catface | Who is glad I'm being less of a lazifaic as of late? |
18:39.49 | OluapWorker | I is |
18:41.11 | *** join/#sporewiki dino___ (3eeeb523@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.238.181.35) |
18:41.34 | Catface | We need to work on this sometime, lil' man http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zua-Zaoi_Reunification |
18:41.35 | Catface | And hi |
18:41.44 | dino___ | hello!!!!!!!!! |
18:43.53 | OluapWorker | Hey dino |
18:44.26 | Catface | Dino: :> http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Mirus_Council#Leaders |
18:44.53 | dino___ | hello! |
18:44.57 | dino___ | how is all doing? |
18:45.13 | dino___ | @Catface: Oh even a ???? |
18:45.19 | OluapWorker | I'll only be able of working in fiction on the weekends for now on |
18:45.27 | Catface | Yes |
18:45.35 | dino___ | nice! |
18:45.35 | *** join/#sporewiki Imperios (b2424af9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.66.74.249) |
18:45.41 | dino___ | Imperios!!!!!! |
18:45.42 | Catface | sux4u lolololol |
18:45.49 | Imperios | Hi dino |
18:46.01 | Imperios | I was playing TOR, I have recently unlocked Force Choke for my sith |
18:46.07 | Imperios | Time to use it |
18:46.10 | Imperios | chokes dino |
18:46.14 | Imperios | Where is mah Artharon emprah :> |
18:46.19 | Imperios | emperor |
18:47.41 | dino___ | Oh thank you Imperios |
18:47.44 | dino___ | lol |
18:48.10 | Imperios | I requested you a long time ago and then you vanished |
18:48.19 | Imperios | *made a request |
18:48.27 | dino___ | Whak kind of request? |
18:48.44 | dino___ | ?Yeah I wasn't able to get on internet for a while, due to work/study and absence etc |
18:48.45 | Imperios | The Artharon emperor Fela'thoran |
18:48.49 | dino___ | but now I am semi-back |
18:49.03 | dino___ | Oh I remember! Yeah I would make him, srry forgot |
18:49.07 | dino___ | have a png link for me? |
18:49.11 | dino___ | Will do it right away :D |
18:49.34 | Wormy | Xho_ I sense you are getting pissed at my spelling errors. My spelling is or was better than this... I've gained a bad habit of not checking. |
18:49.44 | Imperios | http://images.wikia.com/spore/images/3/37/Artharon_Noble_%281%29.png |
18:49.49 | Imperios | Here is the PNG |
18:51.00 | dino___ | does he have to remain in the smae colors and what did I promise to do on him? |
18:51.04 | dino___ | Change his armor? |
18:52.23 | Imperios | Well his colours are more or less yours for choosing |
18:52.42 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Artharon#Individuals Here is a description of his personality |
18:52.45 | dino___ | oh ok, coolio. Will try to give him some sort of crown! |
18:52.52 | Imperios | Thanks! |
19:08.50 | dino___ | uploaded! |
19:09.28 | Imperios | Lemme see |
19:10.10 | Imperios | Me gusta |
19:10.22 | Imperios | Thanks, I like it! |
19:10.46 | Imperios | I'll probably recolour him to make him stand out a bit but still thanks |
19:11.49 | OluapWorker | ded |
19:30.06 | dino___ | thanks! |
19:30.11 | dino___ | Hope you can use him in your fictional plans |
19:30.15 | dino___ | btw how goes Agnessa her mission? |
19:30.19 | dino___ | oh he quite |
19:30.20 | dino___ | darn |
19:36.41 | *** join/#sporewiki Shalonar (~MindScrew@host-38-152-66-217.spbmts.ru) |
19:41.28 | dino___ | have to leave |
19:41.31 | dino___ | bones is on tv |
19:41.32 | dino___ | see ya |
19:41.34 | dino___ | gongm to watch |
19:41.35 | dino___ | bye |
19:45.13 | Shalonar | Bye |
19:47.09 | Wormy | Damn it, Ghelae not here |
19:47.20 | Shalonar | Wormy |
19:47.30 | Wormy | Hi |
19:47.32 | Shalonar | I have noticed SporeWiki has subcultures |
19:47.33 | Xho_ | Wormy: I haven't noticed |
19:47.42 | Wormy | As have I |
19:47.53 | Wormy | to both of you |
19:48.06 | Shalonar | Other than hivemind, we have the wikiscientists |
19:48.11 | Xho_ | Shit I just remembered I can play the piano |
19:48.14 | Xho_ | How dum can I get |
19:48.16 | Shalonar | Ghel Wormy and Monet, kinda |
19:48.38 | Shalonar | Then we have me, Hachi, R17 and Irsk |
19:48.43 | Monet | I wouldn't say 'kinda'. |
19:48.45 | Wormy | You might want to ad GD12... He knows his maths... |
19:49.20 | Wormy | And The Randomness |
19:50.41 | Wormy | You know what I'm researching now? I just want to know why maths is self-consistent... And I'm listening to trippy music at the same time. |
19:53.11 | Wormy | I'm not very satisfied, I don't think anyone has come up with answers to the logic + maths + physics relationship |
19:56.06 | Monet | If LotG comes on tonight is there a chance we could continue the Nocturnia plot? |
19:57.00 | Wormy | yes |
19:57.09 | Xho_ | If we even started it yeah |
19:57.32 | Monet | I just informed hachi on DA. |
19:58.13 | Monet | right I feel like making a paicture but I am unsure of a good scene, can anyone suggest something? |
19:59.03 | Xho_ | Something related to Sporewiki or something random? |
19:59.36 | Monet | Sporewiki. |
20:00.00 | Xho_ | Hm |
20:00.07 | Xho_ | How about |
20:00.18 | Xho_ | A scene from Tzhrhokia |
20:00.27 | OluapWorker | A scene from the Borealis War :v |
20:00.34 | Xho_ | Or that |
20:00.51 | Monet | Hmm. |
20:01.18 | OluapWorker | Arsac arguing with Geltastra |
20:01.19 | OluapWorker | :v |
20:01.37 | Monet | What about Arsac vs. Capastrus? |
20:01.45 | OluapWorker | That sounds good too |
20:02.19 | OluapWorker | Angry dragon lady vs big demon bacon |
20:03.05 | Xho_ | Big demon bacon |
20:03.13 | Xho_ | le gusta mucho |
20:03.18 | OluapWorker | hur |
20:07.01 | Xho_ | ""I got a manky eye. I'm a black, Scottish cyclops. They've got more Stout Shako Two Refineds of me."" |
20:07.11 | OluapWorker | hur |
20:08.06 | Xho_ | "Oh, Stout Shako for two REFINED!" |
20:08.17 | OluapWorker | They actually found that line uncensored on SFM |
20:08.24 | Xho_ | I heard it |
20:08.32 | OluapWorker | Fecking monsters |
20:08.46 | Xho_ | "They've got more feckin' monsters in the Loch at Ness then they've got the likes of me..." |
20:09.07 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+v infobot] by OluapWorker |
20:09.15 | OluapWorker | dere no monstas in de loch at ness |
20:09.18 | OluapWorker | dere no demoman |
20:09.24 | Xho_ | LIES |
20:09.25 | Xho_ | Y U LAI |
20:09.39 | OluapWorker | i no lai |
20:09.40 | OluapWorker | u lai |
20:13.14 | Xho_ | "Mmmmph mmmmph, mmmmm mmmmmp mmmmmph. Mmmmmph mpm! Mmmmmph mph mm! Hm mmmmmph, hmmmmph mm mmmmmph mmmmmph!" = Monday |
20:13.19 | Xho_ | Pyro y u |
20:13.27 | OluapWorker | pyrotrollface.png |
20:16.15 | OluapWorker | Xho do you have the Pyro's rainbow-thrower yet? |
20:16.22 | Xho_ | nope.avi |
20:16.28 | Xho_ | It is sad day |
20:16.29 | OluapWorker | Next time we play I'll give you one then |
20:16.46 | Xho_ | IT IS GOOD DAY TO BE...uh yeah |
20:16.48 | OluapWorker | Just let me see if I didn't craft it already |
20:17.24 | Xho_ | "My lightwave bass was great until I puked all over it at a gig...now it DOESN'T WORK...It's just more stuff that can break! Now I just stick with my Carvin with NORMAL pickups. If you fix this problem I might consider another lightwave." |
20:17.29 | Xho_ | u stoopid stoopid stoopid |
20:17.38 | OluapWorker | Yeah I still have it |
20:18.07 | OluapWorker | Stay online for about 2 more hours and you can have it |
20:18.18 | Xho_ | k |
20:28.50 | Xho_ | So |
20:28.52 | Xho_ | Hm |
20:28.55 | Xho_ | dum irc y u ded |
20:29.01 | OluapWorker | cus u no talk |
20:29.03 | OluapWorker | i blame u |
20:29.14 | Xho_ | u blame urself cus hivemind |
20:29.17 | OluapWorker | fuk |
20:29.18 | OluapWorker | still |
20:29.20 | OluapWorker | ur fault |
20:29.24 | Xho_ | :< |
20:29.24 | OluapWorker | ~headbutt Xho_ |
20:29.32 | Xho_ | |< |
20:29.32 | OluapWorker | dum bot y u no headbutt |
20:29.35 | Xho_ | Wait no |
20:29.37 | Xho_ | |> |
20:29.46 | OluapWorker | pyramid hed y u hav a dukface |
20:29.59 | Xho_ | Technically speaking it's /> but oh well |
20:30.59 | Xho_ | Oluap what would you say is better |
20:31.02 | Xho_ | TF2 or Dota 2 |
20:33.15 | OluapWorker | Can't compare |
20:33.22 | OluapWorker | They are too different |
20:33.29 | Xho_ | yus u can u just dunt want 2 |
20:33.40 | OluapWorker | stop bein dum |
20:33.50 | Xho_ | eats OluapWorker |
20:34.00 | OluapWorker | bursts out of Xho_'s stomach |
20:34.22 | OluapWorker | If you liek shooters you'll prefer TF2, if you like RTS you'll prefer Dota 2. I like both and play both hur |
20:34.24 | OluapWorker | like* |
20:36.59 | Xho_ | Question |
20:37.04 | OluapWorker | TF2 is definetly more casual player-friendly though |
20:37.08 | Xho_ | Why does Demoman shag Medic's wife |
20:37.16 | OluapWorker | because he's Demoman |
20:38.04 | Xho_ | http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/a/ac/Medic_taunts07.wav I have never heard Medic say this |
20:38.18 | OluapWorker | What does he say in that? I can't hear it right now |
20:38.36 | Xho_ | "Hello, Fräuleins!" |
20:38.42 | OluapWorker | Hmm |
20:38.48 | OluapWorker | I'm not sure where that plays |
20:39.03 | *** join/#sporewiki Technobliterator (51971fc0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.151.31.192) |
20:39.20 | Technobliterator | heey guys |
20:39.31 | OluapWorker | Oh, it's unusued |
20:39.31 | Xho_ | hai dummkopf |
20:39.38 | OluapWorker | Only unushed Medic line in the game even |
20:39.39 | OluapWorker | Hello |
20:39.42 | OluapWorker | unused* |
20:39.54 | Xho_ | http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/5/5f/Medic_taunts11.wav Me to everyone in the IRC |
20:40.50 | OluapWorker | http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/5/5f/Medic_taunts14.wav Me to Xho |
20:41.54 | Xho_ | http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/8/85/Medic_battlecry05.wav My response |
20:42.53 | OluapWorker | http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/4/4e/Demoman_taunts05.wav Xho meets Irsk |
20:44.21 | *** join/#sporewiki Ghelae (6d940067@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.148.0.103) |
20:44.27 | Ghelae | Hello. |
20:45.59 | OluapWorker | http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/soundbytes/SCOUT_regreteverything.mp3 Xho after playing TF2 with Oluap |
20:46.10 | Technobliterator | hi ghelae |
20:48.12 | Xho_ | Isn't the Direct Hit slightly op? |
20:48.18 | Xho_ | If you're accurate that is |
20:48.34 | OluapWorker | If you're accurate? Yes |
20:48.39 | OluapWorker | Good luck being accurate with it though |
20:49.08 | Xho_ | Beggar's Bazooka looks fun |
20:49.16 | Xho_ | " Overloading the chamber will cause a misfire." |
20:49.19 | Xho_ | hurhurhurboom |
20:49.25 | OluapWorker | dum soulja |
20:49.31 | Monet | http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/da/Arsac_Faces_Capastrus.png *Mortal Kombat music plays* |
20:50.12 | OluapWorker | i liek |
20:50.19 | OluapWorker | But the effect thingies are visisble |
20:50.35 | OluapWorker | *visible |
20:50.38 | OluapWorker | *visibru |
20:50.44 | Monet | Iz dum I know. |
20:51.46 | OluapWorker | Arsac - I'll turn you into bacon! Capastrus - u so borin |
20:52.15 | Xho_ | Does the Teufort Tooth Kicker do anything? |
20:52.21 | OluapWorker | Nope |
20:52.36 | Xho_ | dum y |
20:52.42 | OluapWorker | cus it a misc item not a wepon |
20:55.46 | Xho_ | What would you say is the best melee for the Soldier? |
20:56.08 | OluapWorker | Escape Plan |
20:56.11 | Xho_ | I have: Frying Pan, Shovel, Equalizer, Market Gardener, Half-Zatoichi, Escape Plan |
20:56.35 | OluapWorker | Soldier has no reason to fight at melee range so an utility tool is the best option |
20:58.15 | OluapWorker | But if you're playing Medieval Mode then the Equalizer is the best option |
20:58.25 | OluapWorker | Or Half-Zatoichi if you're feeling courageous |
20:58.33 | Xho_ | Since when did I have a Prussian Pickelhaube? |
20:58.52 | OluapWorker | Since that friend of yours bought a lot of hats? |
20:59.00 | Xho_ | Oh yes |
20:59.07 | Xho_ | Bastard cost me £30 |
20:59.08 | OluapWorker | I had a Prussian Pickelhaube once |
20:59.12 | OluapWorker | It was my first hat ever |
20:59.15 | OluapWorker | I miss it |
20:59.15 | Xho_ | No wait I have 2 |
20:59.36 | Xho_ | One in black |
20:59.36 | Catface | Prussian Pickelhaube is my only hat. |
20:59.50 | OluapWorker | I bet you don't even know what a Prussian Pickelhaube is |
20:59.53 | Xho_ | I have many hats |
20:59.53 | OluapWorker | So shut yo face |
21:00.05 | Catface | Its a medic hat. |
21:00.29 | Catface | And its pointy. |
21:00.40 | Xho_ | I have a Genuine Mask of the Shaman |
21:00.42 | Xho_ | hur dum game |
21:01.03 | Catface | Do you want your money back on that game? |
21:01.11 | OluapWorker | According to the game files, that Mask was supposed to be wearable on the Spy too |
21:01.19 | Xho_ | I have a Machina? |
21:01.22 | Xho_ | Shit I didn't know I had this stuff |
21:01.28 | OluapWorker | hur |
21:01.33 | OluapWorker | Machina is crutch wepon |
21:01.58 | OluapWorker | Machina, Tomislav, Liberty Launcher |
21:02.00 | OluapWorker | All crutches |
21:02.46 | Xho_ | I could get rid of half of my stuff considering I never play classes other than Heavy, Demoman, Medic and Soldier |
21:02.58 | OluapWorker | I like having one of each item |
21:03.04 | OluapWorker | even for classes I don't play |
21:06.35 | Xho_ | "Something Special for Someone Special" |
21:06.37 | Xho_ | Why |
21:06.48 | OluapWorker | Like a friend of mine said |
21:06.57 | OluapWorker | Self-Made Something Special for Someone Special = Forever Alone |
21:07.11 | Xho_ | hur |
21:08.27 | *** join/#sporewiki Jove_ (185ee384@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.94.227.132) |
21:08.43 | Monet | Hello |
21:08.45 | Catface | beats Jove_ silly |
21:08.48 | Jove_ | 'ello |
21:08.57 | Jove_ | Wut wus that for, u dummy |
21:09.32 | Catface | Dunno |
21:09.34 | Monet | http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/da/Arsac_Faces_Capastrus.png better? |
21:09.56 | OluapWorker | Yesh |
21:10.12 | Catface | Monet: Who do you like best? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Mirus_Council#Leaders |
21:10.28 | Monet | Interestingly Arsac and Capastrus are similar heights. |
21:11.03 | OluapWorker | Height wise Capastrus only loses to Indricarron and Ref'kolar in the champions |
21:12.08 | OluapWorker | Indricarron is around 3-4m tall and Ref'kolar is 8.46m |
21:12.24 | Catface | So should I work on the UMC's military or make some ULE leaders. |
21:12.26 | Catface | *? |
21:12.32 | OluapWorker | ULE leaders |
21:12.54 | Catface | mmk I'll make a few. |
21:12.58 | Xho_ | Hm |
21:13.02 | Xho_ | I got a 'Strange Pistol' |
21:13.12 | Monet | Catface: I don't realyl know. |
21:13.17 | Catface | A strange pistol for a strange person. |
21:13.22 | OluapWorker | Strange items count kills |
21:13.39 | OluapWorker | Don't see much use in the Pistol outside of Gunslinger Vagineer though |
21:13.53 | Xho_ | I have a description tag and a name tag randomly |
21:13.56 | Xho_ | What should I use it on |
21:14.02 | OluapWorker | Give them to me |
21:14.03 | OluapWorker | :> |
21:14.06 | Catface | lawl |
21:14.21 | Xho_ | NEIN |
21:14.24 | Xho_ | smacks Oluap |
21:14.24 | OluapWorker | JA |
21:14.35 | OluapWorker | stabs stabs stabs Xho_ |
21:14.37 | Catface | Monet: Do you mean that they are so good you can't choose or they are so bad you can't choose? |
21:14.56 | Xho_ | Could use it on my Soldier's Stainless Pot |
21:15.03 | OluapWorker | You have a Pot? |
21:15.07 | Xho_ | Sí |
21:15.13 | OluapWorker | I had a Pot once |
21:15.15 | OluapWorker | I miss it too |
21:15.25 | Xho_ | Or on the Pickelhaube |
21:15.29 | Xho_ | Not sure |
21:15.30 | Monet | Catface: They're all a bit vague as characters. maybe you can work on them? |
21:15.38 | Xho_ | Wish I had an all-class item |
21:15.52 | OluapWorker | My Pot was the genuine Jane Doe hate |
21:15.54 | OluapWorker | hat* |
21:15.58 | Catface | True. I will later. |
21:17.14 | OluapWorker | Crafted by his wife's cute little hands |
21:17.18 | OluapWorker | I just said cute little hands |
21:17.22 | OluapWorker | Like Xho's |
21:17.39 | Catface | But right now I'm working on ULE leaders like OP commands of me. |
21:18.18 | OluapWorker | throws Xho_ into the middle of a horde of cute Asgord babies |
21:18.55 | Xho_ | My new Pot is called |
21:19.06 | Xho_ | 'Xho's Narcissistic Pot of Narcissism |
21:19.58 | Catface | Fitting |
21:21.08 | Xho_ | Description - "To Xho, this narcissistic pot isn't narcissistic enough." |
21:21.36 | Technobliterator | monet you might be interested in what i'm writing atm |
21:21.41 | Technobliterator | and catface possible |
21:22.23 | *** part/#sporewiki Ghelae_away (6d940067@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.148.0.103) |
21:23.28 | Catface | Oh? |
21:23.33 | Catface | Do tell. |
21:24.54 | Technobliterator | well it's posted on a forum for one of my fave game developers |
21:24.57 | Technobliterator | http://www.insomniacgames.com/community/showthread.php?48113-My-idea-of-the-future-of-gaming&p=1325850#post1325850 |
21:26.57 | Catface | Interesting idea |
21:27.16 | Technobliterator | cheers |
21:29.03 | Monet | I like it. It would mean I could play MGS using my computer. |
21:30.19 | Technobliterator | yeahh, that's one thing i'd really like to see |
21:30.25 | Monet | 5 hours a month is, tbh, a veery small amount of time for me. |
21:30.45 | Technobliterator | yeahh it is but you have to understand they wouldn't make any money that way |
21:30.54 | Technobliterator | and you'd be able to buy extra hours |
21:31.27 | *** join/#sporewiki Shalonar (~MindScrew@host-148-152-66-217.spbmts.ru) |
21:31.43 | Technobliterator | hi Shalonar |
21:31.51 | Catface | Hello |
21:32.06 | Catface | Techno have you seen this? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Mirus_Council#Leaders |
21:32.10 | Shalonar | Salam |
21:32.15 | Technobliterator | i haven't |
21:32.16 | Technobliterator | i will now |
21:32.21 | Shalonar | Hi |
21:32.24 | Technobliterator | btw Shalonar check my idea i posted to a forum here http://www.insomniacgames.com/community/showthread.php?48113-My-idea-of-the-future-of-gaming&p=1325850#post1325850 |
21:32.37 | Shalonar | Ah |
21:32.40 | Shalonar | Wut |
21:32.42 | Shalonar | Lemme see |
21:33.12 | Technobliterator | Catface: nice!! |
21:34.20 | Shalonar | There is a problem, it would be a bit irritating to casual players. |
21:34.33 | Shalonar | I mean, the payment system |
21:35.53 | Technobliterator | why? |
21:36.01 | Technobliterator | to casual players it'd be great, 5 hours free |
21:36.09 | Shalonar | Hm |
21:36.10 | Technobliterator | a month |
21:36.20 | Shalonar | There is a problem that easy payment is not available to everyone |
21:36.32 | Technobliterator | and besides the average casual player does noting but play COD for a few minutes |
21:36.49 | Technobliterator | Currently, that's true. But by the time this is implemented, I doubt that'll be the case |
21:37.00 | Technobliterator | have you heard of google wallet? payment straight from your android phone |
21:40.55 | Shalonar | That's true |
21:41.00 | Catface | I'm listening to King Diamond. |
21:41.18 | Shalonar | Damn |
21:41.30 | Shalonar | Why do people make good ideas and I can't |
21:42.51 | Catface | You could easily fffaaaalllll and BREAK YOUR NECK! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=msbcs6xNSpY&NR=1 |
21:46.25 | Monet | http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b8/UrielAddressing.png Uriel addresses the marines before the Batle of Avanti |
21:47.37 | Catface | Is Uriel in a bad mood? |
21:48.16 | Shalonar | That moment when people around you have their own opinions, good ideas, could change something. |
21:49.03 | Monet | Catface: No, He's actually being quite confident in that picture. |
21:49.14 | Shalonar | And I have my nihilism only |
21:49.26 | Catface | HE looks like he is upset. |
21:49.45 | Monet | The TIAF were seens as a rather nasty peopel at the time. |
21:49.59 | Shalonar | My opinion on everything is that little can change. Any system will have pirates and copyrights. I guess it is in morality. |
21:50.26 | *** join/#sporewiki OluapPlayer (bada0733@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.218.7.51) |
21:50.27 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o OluapPlayer] by ChanServ |
21:50.36 | Monet | OP: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b8/UrielAddressing.png |
21:50.39 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: hao u talkin on steem whil offline |
21:50.44 | Shalonar | hi |
21:50.48 | Technobliterator | im onlin yoo dum |
21:50.55 | Technobliterator | and did you get my message? |
21:51.03 | OluapPlayer | yes |
21:51.11 | OluapPlayer | but I can't reply because you appear as offline |
21:51.16 | Technobliterator | dum |
21:51.20 | Technobliterator | what do you say to the idea? |
21:51.25 | OluapPlayer | Monet: "watch me roar!" |
21:51.48 | Technobliterator | that is such an awesome pic Monet |
21:51.51 | Technobliterator | bloody hell. |
21:52.13 | Catface | Vote http://awards.progrockmag.com/album-of-the-year/rush-clockwork-angels |
21:52.16 | Shalonar | Monet: Uriel Waaagh |
21:52.27 | Shalonar | Jo: Wut |
21:52.27 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: It's interesting but I don't see it happening, first because not all game soundtracks are released plus that would take a buttload of work |
21:52.47 | OluapPlayer | What is that picture for, Monet? |
21:52.51 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer: What's game soundtracks got to do with it? |
21:52.53 | Monet | Uriel is doing a battle-roar, something common when a Draconis makes a pre-battle speech. |
21:53.13 | Technobliterator | and as for buttload of work, i understand what you mean, but it's the kind of stuff that is already being developed as we speak |
21:53.26 | OluapPlayer | Your examples are all games |
21:53.40 | Technobliterator | Yeah...and? |
21:53.55 | OluapPlayer | That makes me believe you only mean game music |
21:54.03 | Shalonar | Ma'fest - An idiotic imbecile practice for brutes who are all shouting. A true warrior needs finesse and skill. |
21:54.20 | Technobliterator | oh no no noo...i mean straming the actual game itself, not game music? |
21:54.31 | Technobliterator | music streaming already exists in spotify |
21:54.39 | Technobliterator | this idea is for streming the games themselves |
21:54.50 | Xho_ | Kithworto - Go feed your rodent children, you mewling rat. |
21:55.03 | Monet | http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=gz3jJDIHl6I&feature=endscreen considering Draonis sound like this when they roar it's not jut showing off. |
21:55.09 | OluapPlayer | Baptarion - It's people like you that make me dislike the rest of the Radeon. |
21:55.34 | OluapPlayer | I lol'd at the top comments of that video |
21:55.48 | Technobliterator | so yeah what do you think of the future of games? |
21:56.22 | Monet | Uriel - You would not be so boastful when such a sound ecohoes in your camp in the dead of night! |
21:56.36 | Technobliterator | Zr'Ahgloth - shut up yor all dum |
21:56.49 | OluapPlayer | EA will eat everyone and we'll be their DLC-paying slaves |
21:57.06 | Technobliterator | dum y u no comment on my idea now you understand it |
21:57.29 | Shalonar | Nothing will change. Moneygrabbing, moneygrabbing, moneygrabbing, on both sides. |
21:57.37 | OluapPlayer | cus my point stands, I don't see it happening due to the work needed |
21:57.44 | Technobliterator | ohh |
21:57.49 | Technobliterator | well you'd be surprised |
21:57.58 | Technobliterator | youtube, for example, there's video streaming |
21:58.13 | Technobliterator | and this technology as I said on my forum post is already being developed |
21:58.35 | Shalonar | Ma'fest - A true warrior - a true believer, too - does not feel fear. Fear is irrational. Feel does blind you. |
21:58.35 | Technobliterator | OnLive, Gakai |
21:59.15 | Monet | Uriel - Tell that to our enemies. |
21:59.37 | Technobliterator | wwell |
21:59.38 | Technobliterator | i'm off |
21:59.39 | Technobliterator | bye!! |
21:59.43 | Monet | bye |
21:59.47 | Shalonar | Bye |
22:00.09 | Shalonar | Ma'fest - Deadly efficiency and cold determination will bring as much fear. |
22:00.54 | Monet | Actually it is somewhat hipocritical; draconis describe lesser species they don't like as beasts or animals yet they will roar like that when angry enough. |
22:01.13 | Wormy | bbl |
22:01.32 | Catface | Do they think Tralor are lesser species? |
22:02.07 | Monet | Catface: Yeah, but they have respect for them. |
22:02.16 | Xho_ | “Hate. It is a strong word. Not as strong as the gravity of your forthcoming death, mortal.” - Xhodocto to Matheoward |
22:03.12 | Monet | Uriel - Perhaps you are simly envious that your kind cannot make such a fear-inducing noise? |
22:03.39 | Monet | simply* |
22:04.22 | Shalonar | Ma'fest - Roaring and screaming is for Artharons. The howl of guns and clash of blades accompany our warriors instead. |
22:04.48 | Monet | Uriel - The roar is also a signal to one's own men; a powerful roar denotes confidence, strength and determination. |
22:05.24 | Monet | Uriel - the sound can inspire the hearer that a powerful leader is behind them. |
22:05.36 | Xho_ | I dunno if a Kicathian roar is more powerful than a Draconis one |
22:05.39 | Catface | Monet: Tralor sound like this when they are really pissed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StyBEbUosAs |
22:05.44 | Xho_ | Judging by the Draconis' torso size I doubt it |
22:05.56 | Catface | Only much louder. |
22:05.58 | Xho_ | That is if big lungs = big roar |
22:06.18 | Monet | Xho: They have three lungs |
22:06.30 | Xho_ | Yeah they'd make a louder noise then |
22:06.56 | OluapPlayer | Spinker - Rawr! Draconis - RRRAAAAAAAWRRR! Spinker - Bah. |
22:06.59 | Xho_ | Kicath often wear helmets so their roar would be a muffled electronic cascading roar |
22:08.02 | Xho_ | The species that I have with the loudest roar is easily the Xhodocto but mortal-wise probably the Mahanayans |
22:08.24 | Catface | Tralor don't really roar. |
22:08.29 | Shalonar | Radeons would probably have a very high-pitched scream as a battle roar |
22:08.42 | Xho_ | Mahanayan roars sound unholy |
22:08.42 | Shalonar | Except they generally don't do this, because ^ |
22:09.08 | Catface | Tralor just make bug noise. |
22:09.14 | Monet | Manahayans probably sound like horses. |
22:09.22 | Monet | Mahanayans* |
22:09.26 | Xho_ | Actually no |
22:09.42 | Xho_ | Mahanayans are actually carnivorous |
22:09.49 | OluapPlayer | Mahanayan - EEEEEEEHOHOHOHOH |
22:09.58 | Monet | Horses can still make some scary noises. |
22:10.02 | Catface | Xho_: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DZ0VEjJZs4 |
22:10.26 | Shalonar | Well they could sound like undead horses from Warcraft |
22:10.33 | Monet | bbl |
22:10.37 | Xho_ | "just when you thought District 9 wasn't real..." |
22:11.14 | Xho_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=sTCCxx8cFNw&NR=1 Mahanayans are more likely going to sound like this |
22:11.29 | OluapPlayer | Khrokar - oi |
22:13.00 | Xho_ | Kicathian Roars, not so big |
22:13.53 | Catface | Xho_:I heard this when I was camping last time but didn't think much of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKw4OFAu1WM |
22:14.06 | OluapPlayer | Spinkers don't actually roar |
22:14.08 | OluapPlayer | But they screech |
22:14.41 | Xho_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDGhN9Dz_P4&feature=related GEEZUSH |
22:14.48 | OluapPlayer | And their ears get all extended, like those dilophosaurus from Jurassic Park |
22:15.50 | OluapPlayer | Dracogonarious don't have any "loud scream" noise |
22:15.52 | Shalonar | Artharons roar like leopards |
22:16.18 | Shalonar | And since they are pretty much my only "angry intimidating strong' species |
22:16.19 | OluapPlayer | But with a bite with the strenght of a saltwater crocodile's, they don't really need a scream |
22:16.47 | Shalonar | I guess nobody else does scream in my fic |
22:17.02 | OluapPlayer | Wranploer would let out very loud roars when angry |
22:17.18 | Shalonar | In fact_ |
22:17.31 | Shalonar | Artharons do empower and weaponise their roars |
22:17.50 | OluapPlayer | Shower time |
22:17.56 | Xho_ | Zí-Jittorám roars are extremely low pitched and as such create an underground tremor when they do |
22:18.11 | *** join/#sporewiki Tybusen (44e45820@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.228.88.32) |
22:19.01 | Shalonar | Book |
22:19.03 | Shalonar | hi |
22:22.50 | Catface | Xho_: I hope you find yourself pleased http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=oZ0lqK9bXcg |
22:28.14 | OluapPlayer | Back |
22:29.16 | Catface | Welcome to apple world! |
22:29.20 | OluapPlayer | Xho_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niHVVf6OSZ0&feature=g-all-lik |
22:32.51 | Xho_ | oh gawd |
22:33.37 | Catface | OluapPlayer: Just a normal day in Missouri. |
22:37.37 | *** join/#sporewiki Wormy (519c53bd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.156.83.189) |
22:37.58 | Wormy | I got another comment from Hilight yay http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-500858730192 |
22:38.29 | OluapPlayer | who dare |
22:38.30 | OluapPlayer | dat* |
22:38.36 | MonetAway | Tybusen: Before yo came on we were talking about our creatures and how they roar/scream/screech. |
22:38.48 | Tybusen | Cool |
22:39.15 | MonetAway | it all started when I said Draconis roar like tigers. |
22:39.53 | OluapPlayer | Monet I added that Arsac vs Capastrus pic to the war page |
22:40.00 | MonetAway | Cool. |
22:42.03 | Wormy | An awesome Spore creator, possibly Spore "celeb, although rightfully |
22:42.04 | MonetAway | Combine that with a third lung and you have a big-ass roar. |
22:43.05 | Wormy | So, did Hachi return? |
22:43.32 | MonetAway | 'fraid not. |
22:43.41 | Wormy | oh well |
22:52.41 | MonetAway | Curently in ME3 I won't say what im' foing right now but whatever it is that happened on the last mission even paragon Shepard is PISSED. |
22:52.56 | MonetAway | Pissed-angry, not pissed-drunk. |
22:53.12 | OluapPlayer | I can guess |
22:53.12 | Wormy | Not piss wasser? |
22:54.24 | MonetAway | I spoke with joker and form what he's telling me my character is more stressed then during the Skyllian Blitz. |
22:55.29 | MonetAway | Which as Joker put it "was you against 10,000 angry Batarians trying to kill you" |
22:55.41 | OluapPlayer | MonetAway: http://i.imgur.com/9FPep.jpg |
22:56.25 | MonetAway | Lol. |
22:57.22 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/ZIcb0.jpg This is nnngh cute |
22:57.29 | MonetAway | I never considered EDI Anime material, more like a walking fanservice for Joker and tech geeks. |
22:59.00 | OluapPlayer | I like this YouTube comment: " Fuck Batarians. Fuck them right in their eyes. Man, that's a lot of eye-fucking." |
22:59.29 | MonetAway | When you stare at them, which pair are you supposed to be looknig at? |
22:59.45 | MonetAway | Wormy: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2fscdzIxJ1rn1c5g.jpg beware! |
23:00.48 | OluapPlayer | I think it would be interesting to have a batarian as a squadmate |
23:02.04 | Wormy | blasts the robot with a superlaser |
23:02.16 | MonetAway | Advanced AI + sexy robot body = doom of all mankind |
23:02.32 | OluapPlayer | dum she an ally u shuld kill allies |
23:04.28 | MonetAway | Wormy hates robots. particualy AIs with sapience. |
23:05.55 | OluapPlayer | That surprises me |
23:06.05 | OluapPlayer | He would crap himself if he saw a Reaper then |
23:06.19 | MonetAway | I would crap myself. |
23:06.58 | Wormy | I do not think we should buils Strong AI's. We can't use them for anything, it would be a slave, and, it may not be aware of us or see us as atoms which it can use for something else. |
23:07.15 | Wormy | Too dangerous and unecessary. |
23:07.56 | Wormy | Plus robots will take our jobs, if everything id done for us, humans will lose their interllect |
23:08.27 | MonetAway | Therefore machines like EDI would ruin us. |
23:08.35 | Wormy | damnit robots should be banned |
23:08.42 | OluapPlayer | I'm tempted to just download Mass Effect 3 via torrent, but I'll probably be unable of playing on multiplayer + torrenting games just feels bad to me now |
23:09.13 | OluapPlayer | After I started buying Valve games I left my old torrent-loving self behind |
23:09.20 | Wormy | I'm okay with computers, computer controlled machines and swarm robots. But NOT ais |
23:09.55 | OluapPlayer | That's one of the main points of the Mass Effect franchise |
23:10.03 | OluapPlayer | The organic vs AI conflict |
23:10.09 | Wormy | and maybe cyborgs. Cyboegs are still human |
23:10.23 | Catface | Hardly. |
23:10.53 | MonetAway | The Reapers = sapient machines who either turn you into a zombie cyborg or turn you into grey goo to build spaceshisp with. |
23:11.11 | OluapPlayer | They consider this as a form of "ascension" |
23:11.25 | OluapPlayer | The Reapers turning you into goo, that is |
23:11.50 | Wormy | Reaper weapons and shields seem poor |
23:12.04 | Wormy | "Kinetic shields" and mass drivers |
23:12.10 | OluapPlayer | They rape everything in the galaxy |
23:12.12 | MonetAway | They're enough to take on entire feleets in-setting single-handed. |
23:12.25 | MonetAway | fleets* |
23:12.32 | OluapPlayer | I'm pretty sure it took the entire Quarian species to take down a single Reaper |
23:12.36 | Wormy | http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wiki/index.php/Reaper#Threat_Assessment |
23:12.50 | Wormy | They sound dangerous to Tier 4's |
23:13.08 | MonetAway | I'd put each of the council races at tier 5. |
23:14.15 | Wormy | Maybe I should move them? |
23:14.20 | Wormy | on my tier scale |
23:14.29 | OluapPlayer | Mass Effect 3 is dum because they downgraded Harbinger to a minor char |
23:14.34 | MonetAway | Council space is probably tier 4. |
23:14.36 | OluapPlayer | I wanted a chance to blow his ugly face up |
23:14.46 | MonetAway | One of the reasons they are so effective is that they managed to trick practically all sapient spacefaring powers to advance in the eay the Reapers wanted. |
23:15.42 | Wormy | Artificial gravity and FTL is usually signature Tier 4 technology, although it doesn't seem Mass Effect are as advanced as Star Trek's Federation |
23:16.10 | Wormy | Federation is one of the higher Tier 4's though |
23:16.10 | OluapPlayer | The Mass Effect races don't have their own FTL travel mechanisms |
23:16.25 | OluapPlayer | They rely on "relays" created by the Reapers |
23:16.28 | Wormy | The Prothean Mass Relays? |
23:16.37 | MonetAway | The thing is with Mass Effect is that the most advanced technology; the Citadel, the Mass Relays, wasn't built by the modern powers. it's precursor tech. |
23:16.55 | OluapPlayer | All of these are of Reaper origin |
23:17.03 | OluapPlayer | The Protheans were just another species who used them |
23:17.26 | Wormy | I think I'll downgrade Mass Effect races other than Reapers |
23:17.37 | Wormy | To Babylon 5 tech level |
23:17.49 | OluapPlayer | A Relay exploding has enough power to destroy an entire star system |
23:18.22 | Wormy | What would you say EVE rates at? |
23:18.44 | Wormy | Is it known what the Reaper's powersources are? |
23:18.52 | OluapPlayer | I'm not sure |
23:19.27 | OluapPlayer | But their power sources must be very good |
23:19.28 | MonetAway | Tier 3 at least. |
23:19.50 | OluapPlayer | They can remain outside of the Milky Way for 50,000 years and come back ready for combat |
23:20.14 | MonetAway | Wormy: I woudl Rate EVE at tier 3 |
23:20.45 | MonetAway | Perhaps higher. |
23:21.38 | OluapPlayer | Plus the Relays are scattered across the entire galaxy, a Tier 4 wouldn't be so widespread |
23:22.21 | MonetAway | Advanced EVE tech: Artificial wormholes, posthumanism, digital and practical immortality, artificial gravity outside of centripedal force, energy shielding, larger megastructures don't seem that present but that could be from game engine limitations. |
23:23.30 | Wormy | Most of that is Tier 4 tech, except wormholes http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Types_of_civilisation#Tier_4 |
23:25.00 | MonetAway | apsuleer vessels appear to function via DNI. |
23:25.06 | MonetAway | Capsuleer* |
23:27.12 | MonetAway | The msot advanced empire in the setting is the Jovian Empire. But hardly anything is known about them. |
23:27.45 | MonetAway | They used to control msot of known space, then they suffered a condition brought on from playing about too much with genetics. |
23:29.04 | Catface | OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Lanat_Empire#Leaders |
23:29.11 | MonetAway | I wouldn't be surprised if the Jovians ahd a few dyson structures. |
23:30.34 | Wormy | Rating EVE and the Reapers will be difficult |
23:30.43 | MonetAway | Yeah. |
23:31.01 | Wormy | Part of me is saying A-type Tier 4 for EVE, except for wormholes... |
23:31.58 | MonetAway | I'm just speculating here but it is possible that in knowing their extinction was inevitable the Jovians could have constructed a dyson bubble with the desire to upload themselves. It is impossible to reach their space. without travelling across interdtellar space. |
23:32.02 | OluapPlayer | Catface: Gud, gud |
23:32.05 | Wormy | They would need to harness Type II energy sources at least, a Tier 3 could achieve a temporary wormhole if it mustered it all onto a single point in system-sized particl accelerators or a star |
23:32.08 | MonetAway | interstellar* |
23:32.18 | Catface | Am I making you proud yet, father? |
23:32.26 | OluapPlayer | Yes, yes you are |
23:32.42 | MonetAway | Wait. a sec I rememebr an article somewhere. |
23:33.48 | Catface | Out of the three leaders I have done who do you like best? |
23:34.26 | Wormy | "Unlike stargates, wormholes are not permanent." - Eve wiki, looking Tier 3'ish |
23:34.41 | OluapPlayer | Tul |
23:35.06 | MonetAway | I believe stargates function on the principle of wormholes. |
23:37.46 | Catface | Rilt is a nice guy. |
23:38.00 | Wormy | It seems wormholes open naturally in the Eve-universe. And stargates coiuld be hyperspace jump points - that is debatable bit this assumption makes it easier |
23:38.40 | Wormy | Eve stands somewhere between Tier 4 and 3 |
23:40.13 | MonetAway | I rememebr seeing spacetime diagrams that implied it was a wormhole connection. |
23:41.36 | MonetAway | Wormholes themselves were recent, and no-one within the setting is sure why they are opening now. |
23:42.12 | Wormy | Hmmm, maybe some alien race is coming/experimenting |
23:43.01 | MonetAway | That is one of the key things about the wormholes. On the other side are an incredibly advanced spacefaring faction called "the sleepers". |
23:43.26 | Wormy | Interesting |
23:43.43 | Catface | Should I edit more? |
23:43.51 | MonetAway | No one is sure if they are alien or human but their guns have a nasty reputation of tearing you apart if you're nto fulyl prepared. |
23:44.06 | Wormy | Up to you Catface |
23:44.15 | Catface | Nah |
23:44.23 | Catface | I edited too much for today. |
23:46.08 | Wormy | How many systems are controlled by Humanity in the EVE universe? |
23:46.45 | Wormy | It seems there isn't a unified government, but still, except perhaps the Jovians most are on a similar scae of advancement. |
23:46.49 | MonetAway | 5000 according to the site. Problem is, humannity is somewhat divided. |
23:47.07 | MonetAway | But you are right. |
23:47.08 | OluapPlayer | humans is borin |
23:47.29 | Wormy | B-type tier 4 then. The Federation controls about 8000 systems I think |
23:47.49 | Wormy | And Fed ships can transverse certain natural wormholes |
23:48.19 | MonetAway | Although only 1/4 of the systems repond to any organised goverment. So-called "empire space" Beyond that it's every man for himself. |
23:50.16 | MonetAway | Amarr empire = 702 sytems, Caldrai State = 326 ssytems, Gallente Federation = 388, Minmatar Republic = 280. They make up empire space i nthe heart of the setting's known space. |
23:55.09 | MonetAway | Outside of this it's like the Italian city-states with dozens of palyer alliances fighting each other for dominance i nthe outer-rim. |
23:55.20 | Wormy | Yeah |
23:55.42 | Wormy | Have you played Elite? I may add them. |
23:55.56 | Wormy | *add the game overall |
23:56.26 | MonetAway | I know of it. |
23:56.52 | MonetAway | I read an article that Elite was one of the primary inspirations for EVE online. |
23:57.27 | Wormy | And Infinity |