IRC log for #sporewiki on 20120713

00:00.14AtamolosI can barely see it.
00:01.07Wormyhttp://bobbyburnham.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/painting-of-isobel-gowdie.png
00:02.15OluapPlayerYes you're a sneaky rascal
00:07.01Monetdoes a jig of deception.
00:07.47WormyThere have been several expeditions to the Moon in the last three centuries http://img.aasd.com.au/96599198.jpg
00:08.23Monettest
00:08.59WormyNASA employed a lot of their design from Cavor, Stranger and Atterly
00:09.23WormyWho made severals visits between 1880 and 1900
00:12.08MonetOluap: Fro mthe creen, any idea what species Mentracus is?
00:12.15Monetscreen*
00:12.25OluapPlayerEither Draconis or Dravillian
00:12.47MonetDam.
00:12.55OluapPlayerhur
00:13.12MonetYou were right with the second one. But i'll improve the look soon.
00:13.34MonetIt's supposed ot be difficult to tell.
00:14.27Monethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZSPE9T16hA&feature=plcp also here's his voice.
00:15.15OluapPlayerI found the body familiar
00:15.39OluapPlayersounds ghoistly
00:15.41OluapPlayerghostly
00:16.06OluapPlayerRelated video: Overly Attached Girlfriend
00:16.08OluapPlayerhao
00:16.35MonetDafuq
00:19.01OluapPlayerTime to introduce the Chosen to the Business of War
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00:20.15CatfaceHello
00:20.16MonetHello.
00:20.28CatfaceI offended someone.
00:20.45Monetmentracus is one slippery bugger. That's not even a direct comm.
00:20.49MonetOh?
00:22.21MonetThat transmission you see is passing through at least oen quantum entanglement relay.
00:22.37CatfaceI posted on facebook that people who say yolo need to 'end there pitiful existence.'
00:23.09CatfaceAnd it started a shitstorm.
00:23.53CatfaceMostly of people going 'dude not cool tats like promoting suiside n yolo is the cool thing to say'
00:24.29Catfaceand 'omg stop being a h8r. god why r u so critical of evrything'
00:25.10WormyWhat is yolo?
00:25.56OluapPlayerYou only live once
00:26.02CatfaceAnd its vile.
00:26.29OluapPlayerDumb expression said by dumb kids as an excuse to do dangerous/suicidal/stupid shit
00:26.58CatfaceWhy don't you 'yolo' by drinking some bleach.
00:30.53OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Business_of_War#Rampaging_Torment
00:31.30WormyI've heard the non-abbreviated expression and I've never got it.
00:35.29Wormyearly sci-fi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microm%C3%A9gas
00:43.06Wormytest
01:01.03OluapPlayerded
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01:05.00CatfaceJust you and me, Monet.
01:05.15MonetShame, and i'm going soon.
01:05.39CatfaceBut you was going to teach me how to use the spear!
01:06.51CatfaceYou always loved the eldest son more!
01:08.25MonetYou know that's not true. I love you both.
01:09.27CatfaceBut why have you taught Wormy the ways of war but not me?!? Even though he is the eldest I am the strongest and quickest!
01:13.25MonetIt's not always about speed or strength. There is also cunning.
01:14.00CatfaceAnd I have plenty!
01:14.54MonetYour time will come.
01:16.28CatfaceBut why not now? All the others my age in the village know how to use the spear and sword and how to ride upon a horse!
01:19.09MonetI don't want my youngest growing up thinking he will be the greatest warrior in history. I don't want you to dissapoint yourself.
01:21.25MonetDo not be jealous of your brother. War is unpleasant, he has learned this.
01:23.17CatfaceYes, the way he speaks of glory and adventure and his tales of the womenfolk he has taken from his foes.
01:25.44MonetAnd I wish he didn't.
01:27.39CatfaceHe told me that you was cutting me out of my part of the inheritance and giving it to him.
01:28.30MonetNow that is a lie.
01:29.42CatfaceWhy would he lie about that?
01:30.24MonetTo aggrevate you.
01:31.12CatfaceBut why?
01:32.24MonetTo provoke sibling rivalry. Do not listen to him.
01:33.00Monethttp://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120712234942/spore/images/6/6a/2BGWShadymeeting.png can you see anything?
01:33.23CatfaceA very faint outline in the screen.
01:33.37MonetYou ahve good eyes.
01:33.51CatfaceFunny seeing how I need glasses.
01:34.07MonetThat is Mentracus - the DI's spymaster.
01:34.45CatfaceCan I give him a peach?
01:35.18MonetIf you can find him :>
01:35.18CatfaceWould he like a peach?
01:35.57MonetThoughout the Imperium's existence he has hidden in the shadows. No idenity, no trace, he is a ghost.
01:36.25CatfaceDoes he not like the light?
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01:36.40MonetHello.
01:36.46AtamolosHello.
01:36.56MonetNo. He prefers the dark where one can hide undetected.
01:37.21CatfaceWould he like Slenderman?
01:37.23CatfaceHi
01:37.45MonetDunno.
01:38.04CatfaceI don't think Slenderman would like him.
01:38.56Monetmentracus is always behind the scenes. He has never been seen on the field in person.
01:39.27MonetWhen peopel do catch him he is either a diguised hologram or that image above.
01:39.46CatfaceHe fears fighting like a man!
01:40.03CatfaceSo he hides in the shadow like a rat.
01:40.29MonetHe's no coward. He believes that information is his greatest weapon.
01:40.59CatfaceSo would he fight someone if challenged to a duel?
01:41.03MonetOne fabricated document, one slip of security intel and you can topple and empire.
01:41.48CatfaceThat isn't very nice :(
01:42.01MonetHe isn't a very nice person.
01:42.24CatfaceBut would he like the taste of a peach?
01:42.55MonetHe's one of those people who thinks ethics only get in the way of the goal. The ends justify the means.
01:43.16MonetHe might, or he might not. It depends on what his true anatomy is.
01:44.27CatfaceI hope he does.
01:44.54MonetWhat if he doesn't?
01:45.36CatfaceThen I will beat the living shit out of him and drag his body out for all the universe to see.
01:46.22MonetWow you really don't like people who don't like the taste of peach.
01:46.42CatfaceNope.
01:46.45MonetBesides, who says he has a body?
01:47.14MonetHe might be an AI.
01:47.29CatfaceI'll still hurt him.
01:48.06MonetNo one knows what he (or she) really is.
01:48.12MonetNoto even me.
01:48.25CatfaceBut you have an idea.
01:48.34MonetI'm not telling.
01:49.00CatfaceI'm not asking you to.
01:50.15MonetOkay now it is really late for me so goodnight.
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06:15.00GreatDestroyer12hello
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07:31.16GhelaeHello.
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08:10.53JepardiHi
08:21.41GhelaeHello.
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09:35.02GreatDestroyer12hello all
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09:43.49ImperiosReinstalled Spore.
09:44.26Dubstepper17Welcome back Impeh
09:47.41ImperiosWub
09:53.53Rawbutton17Wubwubwub
09:54.03Rawbutton17#illarion
09:55.04Rawbutton17beeps Imperios
09:55.16Rawbutton17and GreatDestroyer12
09:58.04GreatDestroyer12join illarion?
09:58.12Rawbutton17Nope
09:58.15Rawbutton17herro though
09:58.23GreatDestroyer12hello
10:04.38GreatDestroyer12~seen Monet
10:04.42infobotmonet <57722dfe@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.87.114.45.254> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 8h 14m 27s ago, saying: 'Okay now it is really late for me so goodnight.'.
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10:25.07MonetHello
10:25.26Rawbutton17Herro
10:33.50GreatDestroyer12hello
10:41.09ImperiosHi
11:00.25GhelaeHello.
11:00.36ImperiosHi
11:00.46ImperiosLooking at Apalos' relationships
11:00.52ImperiosI therefore name then Dickpalos
11:01.39GhelaeThey're... overwhelmingly unemotional.
11:02.32GhelaeTheir use of the word "useful" does make them seem a bit manipulative and self-interested, yes, but note that they never say what their definition of "useful" is. :P
11:03.02Rawbutton17New dick discovered
11:03.05Rawbutton17first there was Exarch Dick
11:03.06GhelaeIn other news, [[Fiction:Tokzhalan Military Industries]] is complete for now.
11:03.06morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tokzhalan_Military_Industries
11:03.09Rawbutton17now Dickpalos.
11:05.56GhelaeFor the record, that logo isn't meant to look like any individual symbol; it was made from overlaying "T", "M" and "I".
11:06.06GhelaeAnd doing some reflections.
11:22.54Rawbutton17tset
11:22.58Rawbutton17so silent today
11:29.00Rawbutton17beeps Imperios Monet GreatDestroyer12 and Ghelae
11:29.00Rawbutton17what you guys up to right now?
11:29.11MonetBUilding a cityscape.
11:29.18GhelaeI just fixed some typos in one section of "Truly Alien".
11:29.21ImperiosBeing subject to an uncontrolled beam of awesomeness and badassery
11:30.00GhelaeWhat do you mean, Imp? I'm not subjecting you to any beams of myself.
11:30.19Ghelae:P
11:33.16Rawbutton17olol
11:33.39Rawbutton17hngh I have been infected with Luc's "olol virus".
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11:59.04GhelaeHello.
11:59.20Technobliteratorheey
11:59.39Technobliteratorghelae, can we get the TMI in the war at some point?
12:00.59GhelaeYes.
12:01.04GhelaeThat's what they're there for.
12:02.43GhelaeI'm sure TMI would be happy selling to pretty much everyone in Borealis, even if they're fighting each other. After all, a heavily-upgraded Omnidrone defeating another Omnidrone with fewer software upgrades would be a great advert for buying more TMI software.
12:04.37GhelaeDo you have any ideas as to how TMI might become part of the war?
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12:13.51Monethttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/03/Araveene.png BEHOLD!
12:14.55Rawbutton17buildings and buildings and buildings as far as the eye can see.
12:15.06MonetDraconis like building cities liek that.
12:16.11Imperiosjelly
12:16.14ImperiosMy Spore is ded
12:16.33MonetIn hindsight the population are probably blinded by all that gold and glass.
12:17.14Rawbutton17hngh I might not be able to reinstall spore for the 4th time.
12:17.16Rawbutton17ermm...
12:17.21Rawbutton17install it for the 4th time.
12:17.31Rawbutton17this is the 3rd time I installed it AKA 2nd time reinstalling.
12:17.40Rawbutton17is it true that you can only install one copy of spore 3 times?
12:17.48MonetI think they upped it to 5.
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12:17.57GhelaeHello.
12:17.59Wormyhello
12:18.10GhelaeAlso, doesn't that limit only apply when installing Spore on different computers?
12:18.12Rawbutton17Mon: I see.
12:18.21Rawbutton17Herro Vormeh
12:18.46TechnobliteratorGhelae: i do have one or two ideas, both only involving ads so far, but maybe a megacorporation could hire them?
12:18.49WormyWill Tokzhalan Industries have anything to do with the Second Borealis war?  I asked but Jo timed out
12:18.57Technobliteratoryeah it will
12:19.04Technobliteratorbrb
12:19.14Wormycool
12:20.23GhelaeThey should probably be introduced to the war by an ad.
12:22.14Wormy<PROTECTED>
12:23.06MonetWormy if you look on recent uploads you would see a Draconid metro/ecumonopolis
12:23.19Monetrecent pictures*
12:23.38WormyI was sirprised that the Tsar Bomba surpassed the energy that the atmosphere recieves from the Sun
12:23.49WormyWE are so powerful
12:23.55Wormyalready
12:24.02Rawbutton17omgu
12:24.02WormyOkay, I'll have a look
12:25.29WormyR17: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lTbQ4nPFjg&t=8m45s
12:27.51Rawbutton17where did they drop the bomb?
12:31.18Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ivan_bomb.png
12:31.52Rawbutton17I see
12:32.04WormyI heard the seismic wave caused the Earth to ring like a bell three times
12:32.11WormyOn detectors
12:32.11Rawbutton17omg
12:32.31WormyThird degree burns in a 60 miles radius
12:32.38Rawbutton17omg
12:32.43WormyThe crater was glassed
12:32.48MonetOkay the new bulding styles are up.
12:34.01ImperiosHi people
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12:35.31GhelaeHello.
12:35.35JepardiHi
12:35.41GhelaeAnd bye.
12:58.13Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Military#Design_Philosophy reformatted the section and added a section on what to expect inside ITN ships.
12:59.53MonetWindows are a structural weakenss. The answer? Give people video screeens showing the outside.
13:00.30GhelaeHello.
13:00.37MonetHello
13:02.38WormyThe Gargantuan has 100 layers of non-phasic shielding
13:02.51Wormyhypermatter powered
13:05.26GhelaeI think you'd struggle to power 100 layers of deflector shields with anything else.
13:06.06MonetI didn't know how many shields I would need.
13:06.13MonetSo 3 is a minimum.
13:07.11GhelaeI think 100 layers is just excessive. :P
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13:07.47MonetSolution: One hell of a power core.
13:07.48GhelaeI imagine any ship with in-built nanoforges should be able to vary a lot of its defences as needed anyway.
13:07.49GhelaeHello.
13:08.05AtamolosHappy Friday the 13th everyone!
13:08.25MonetYay >:|
13:09.06MonetA gargantuan is 140km long so it should be aeasy to fit a city-sized reactor inside.
13:10.07WormyDCP nanotech can take over the wreckage od downed DCP ships to continue the battle
13:10.29WormySo that is one example of what nanoforges can do
13:12.27GhelaeAll of the "shapeshifting" stuff I've introduced into fiction (besides, presumably, the Pseudomorphs) is ultimately a combination of advanced nanoforges and utility fog.
13:13.25MonetI'm guessing the Gargantuan has very thick NDM armour as well?
13:15.24MonetThe warlord might not be as big but with 400m-thick regenrative nano-engineered ablative armour and thousands of point-defence guns there's not much stopping it even without shields.
13:15.51GhelaeI don't think we've decided that we're keeping neutron-degenerate matter as armour in the SporeWikiverse, because of all of the flaws with the idea. But I'm sure the Gargantuan still has the strongest possible armours.
13:21.41WormyMeh
13:22.02WormyYou cannot expect supergalactic species to be limited by 21st century knowledge
13:22.25WormyCall it clarktech if you want, but the DCP Gargantuan has NDM
13:23.11GhelaeMeh. :P
13:23.23WormyAnd I was wong, reading my fleet page, the Gargantuan has 50 layers of shielding, while the Emperor's place ship, moving capital of the DCP has 100 layers.
13:23.34Wormy*palace
13:23.38MonetI suppose even with hyperadvanced aliens who are masters of miniaturisation; size matters.
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13:24.13GhelaeHello again.
13:24.36Technobliteratorhii
13:25.04WormyI apologise for the crappy picture but here is Gargantuan vs. Emperor's palace http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Spore_2010-05-16_23-41-50.png
13:25.31Atamoloshi
13:25.32Monetyes, they could pack the firepower of a dreadnought into a crusier. But who says you can't use that level of miniaturisation to make a super-powerful dreadnought?
13:27.28GhelaeThey could. The only "limitations" with something like that are whether they need something that's capable of so much overkill. I think most civilisations in the SporeWikiverse decide that they do, for various reasons.
13:27.59WormyI was reading in the Xeelee Sequence that so many humans died fighting the Xeelee in the galactic core, their organic molecules contributed as traces in the nebulae.
13:30.22MonetAccording to Mass Effect, this http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120405014648/masseffect/images/thumb/f/f1/Serpent_Nebula_ME.png/1000px-Serpent_Nebula_ME.png is visible to the human eye and consists of microparticles created from broken-down waste from the Citadel
13:31.20MonetApparently 'waste' als includes former dead animals and even erm... people.
13:31.29Monetalso*
13:33.19MonetAnything that cannot be recycled apparently.
13:33.54AtamolosOr they don't need to enough to care.
13:34.18GhelaeI would have thought that dead organisms could be recycled... although I suppose they may not want to recycle them.
13:34.32AtamolosMy point exactly.
13:35.53MonetThe Keepers aren't exactly known for being sentimental.
13:36.47GhelaeSo then the point becomes, "I would have thought that dead organisms could be recycled."
13:37.16WormyI've finally reached the story "The Seige of Earth" in the Xeelee books, where mankind had been pushed back to the Sol system by the Xeelee.  Sol is a bloated star with a dark matter cancker at its heart, and only Mars is barely habitable at the Twilight zone.
13:38.31AtamolosHumans always get into seemingly impossible fights in fiction. For example: Covenant, Reapers, etc.
13:38.54WormyHumans found a way to escape through "transfer booths" to another universe.  The transfer booths simply appeared, humans presuing it was their godlike ancestors who built them.  But I see where this is going, I presume, the transfer booths are a Xeelee weapon - the spacetime prison.
13:38.56MonetYeah but when we win it proves how awesome we are.
13:39.48AtamolosOr just to boost depressed people's self-esteem.
13:39.59WormyIn a way the Xeelee are showing us compassion.  Because the Xeelee Prison did have a 4D escape room for future people to leave if they are clever enough too
13:40.26WormyAtamolos: Not in the misanthropic Xeelee Sequence
13:40.37AtamolosUsually, one main character is the difference between winning and losing, and eliminating that character would lead to humanity's destruction.
13:40.44AtamolosI should read that.
13:40.50WormyUniverse is bleak to humankind and is the universe is doomed
13:41.09AtamolosFinally, a more realistic story.
13:41.39AtamolosI find the recurring "main character scenario" unlikely.
13:41.43WormyXeelee Sequence is science fiction as it should be, its like reading a whole new dimension of possibilities
13:41.54MonetTBH, big mighty empire losing to a small power has occured in history.
13:42.17MonetThe Romans had a lot of trouble trying to conquer Caledonia.
13:42.17WormyThere is no main characters in the Xeelee Sequence
13:42.50GhelaeWith the Xeelee Sequence covering millions of years, it might be difficult to fit a main character in there.
13:43.02Wormylol
13:43.11MonetTo the point where they effectively gave up and agreed to build the Great Wall of England.
13:43.34AtamolosEngland can't have a great wall. Only China can.
13:43.38Atamolos:P
13:43.46Rawbutton17olol
13:43.49Rawbutton17they just jelly
13:44.15WormyThere is a few characters who's actions caused influence over a few thousand years, and virtual representations of once dead people.  And Micheal Poole, who got turned into a quantum being and lived until timelike infinity
13:44.28MonetNot true http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WmobdWCw5fs/TgCkzaJomqI/AAAAAAAANt4/4B4Z9AyrGjw/s1600/HadriansWall+xtrawide.jpg although yeat it does look somewhat pathetic now.
13:44.55WormyAh yes, Hadrians wall.  In fact there is another wall too
13:45.25GhelaeMonet: If you said that each of those stones were three metres high, it wouldn't have looked so bad. :P
13:45.47GhelaeThe trees in the background may have given it away, though.
13:46.13Monethttp://clccharter.org/euzine1/images/hadrianswall.gif Apparently it used to look something like this.
13:48.13MonetI 'm not entirely sure but I remember reading somewhere Hadrian wanted a wall right across the empire's northern border.
13:48.44WormyLol I like how the Scots scared the Romans into building those walls
13:49.49WormyOne thing is weird though - Some of the walls appear to have been turned into vitrified glass
13:51.03AtamolosWhen in doubt, blame phenomena on aliens.
13:51.19WormyI blame it on ancient nuclear wars
13:52.15Monetmaybe that's what kpt the Romans out of Scotland?
13:52.21Rawbutton17ANCIENT
13:52.23Rawbutton17ALIENS
13:52.32Rawbutton17oh gosh how I want that guy's hairstyle.
13:53.29WormyLol maybe the Celts were armed with nuclear pumped plasma cannons
13:53.31AtamolosAh yes "Aliens"
13:53.36Rawbutton17olol
13:53.44Rawbutton17Wormy: given to them by the aliens.
13:53.57WormyNah
13:54.01GhelaeNo, I'm sure there are just lots of rich, naturally-occuring uranium deposits in Scotland.
13:54.11GhelaeOr there were, until they were all used to blow up stone fortresses.
13:55.30AtamolosHow else do you explain Stonehenge, the Nazca Lines, and the Pyramids? :P
13:55.34Atamolos:3
13:56.03WormyAncient advanced technology forgotten in the sands of time
13:56.23Rawbutton17from aliens
13:56.24GhelaeIn Stonehenge, the rocks were moved using small nuclear charges. The same goes for the Pyramids.
13:56.41Atamolos-_-\
13:56.42MonetStrange how there is no trace of radiation.
13:56.51WormyStonehenge in fact, was used as a sturdy frame for a nuclear reactor.
13:56.55GhelaeAh, it was radiation-less nuclear explosives.
13:57.05Rawbutton17olol
13:57.05GhelaeWell, low-radiation, technically, of course.
13:58.02GhelaeThe Nazca Lines don't need much explaining, but of course, they were popular tourists attractions for people taking rides on nuclear-powered zeppelins.
13:58.06WormyThe Merlic Corporation had antigravity drives to move the stones once charges levitated them in the air
13:58.16Wormy*Merlin
13:58.36Atamolos-_- Merlin Corporation?
13:58.51WormyMerlin was said to have moved the stones by magic
13:59.09WormyBut of course, Clarke's Third Law
13:59.52WormyAlso, did you know there have been several expeditions to the Moon in the last three centuries?
14:00.15AtamolosAnd you deduced this... how?
14:01.32MonetHe's a dragon. He saw it all happen.
14:01.44GhelaeTo be fair, there have also been several expeditions to the Moon in the last half-century.
14:02.56WormyOn the left is Cyrano de Bergerac and Hans Pfaal, on the right is President Barbicane, Micheal Ardane  and Captain Nicholl  http://img.aasd.com.au/96599198.jpg
14:03.35GhelaeI assume those vehicles are all nuclear-powered?
14:04.24GhelaeYou know, this started off being almost plausible when it involved Celts using nuclear weapons. Now it's just crazy.
14:04.33WormyThe first travelled there in a hot air balloon in the 17th century, they were followed by Mr Cavor who used his antigravity covorite on a steel sphere lined with thick glass , and controlled by blinds and shutters.
14:06.10WormyBut the best documented account is the picture on the right, done between 1880 and 1900.  President Barbicane and friends were sponsonred by the Gun club, fired from a columbiad cannon with a bore of 274.320 cm
14:06.56MonetTrust members of a gun club to come up with a way of launching a spacecraft by firing it from a cannon.
14:07.13Rawbutton17gtg sleep bye
14:07.49WormyThe nine ton projectile was powered by coal for internal heat
14:08.04GhelaeObviously, nuclear technology allowed for the passengers of the spacecraft to survive the huge g-forces required to accelerate it to escape velocity along the length of the cannon.
14:08.26WormyOxygen was released from potassium chlorate
14:08.49WormyContainers of potash absorbed carbon dioxide
14:09.56Wormy19th century modesty has not explained what sanintary arrangements were provided on the Moonshot, sadly.
14:10.44WormyNASA took much of it's inspiration from the Gun Club
14:11.25GhelaeHence NASA's common usage of giant cannons to launch vehicles into orbit.
14:12.33WormyStill, it would take almost a century for NASA to figure out how to walk people on the Moon
14:13.00WormyBut it's a shme they take all the credit.  They were not the first yo fly around it
14:13.17GhelaeClearly, that was because NASA weren't allowed to use nukes for spaceship propulsion.
14:14.04GhelaeIf they were, I'm sure they'd have managed it back in the 19th century, certainly.
14:14.19WormyIn fact on the second visit, the Gun Club's mission went awry when they had to divert course due to a meteorite...  Due to this alteration they almost went into orbit aound the Moon, but clever firing of on-board rockets allowed them to come home
14:15.03GhelaeIndeed. They nearly vented all of their plutonium reserves in the process.
14:15.20WormyYes it was very useful
14:17.12GhelaeOf course, ever since those Vimanas were uncovered and reverse-engineered back in the '80s, NASA use far more advanced technology than mere nuclear and antimatter propulsion.
14:17.19GhelaeHence our modern-day interstellar empire.
14:18.23WormyThe secret one.  They used all this to fight the renegade Nazis who also formed an empire at Alpha Centauri
14:19.45AtamolosWhere did you find out about this?
14:19.47GhelaeOf course, we can thank all of this on that Roman scouting party who found themselves on the wrong side of Hadrian's Wall one day, and brought back the Celts' nuclear technologies to Britannia.
14:21.20WormySo there you have it:  Ancient humans, followed by the early balloonists of the Industrial Revolution, followed by steampunk designs of Mr Cavor and Preseident Barbicane, followed by deiselpunk empires based on reverse engineered vimana tech and then our era
14:22.11GhelaeBut just think of it. In some bizarre parallel universe, people may not have all of this technology.
14:22.24GhelaeIn their world, NASA may have been the first organisation to reach the Moon.
14:22.33GhelaeIn fact, they may still be using chemical rockets.
14:22.49GhelaeLet's just be glad we don't live in *that* poor universe.
14:22.56MonetSo primitive.
14:23.32AtamolosIndeed.
14:24.43WormyThank god for the Gun Club and Mr Cavor's creation of cavorite
14:26.02GhelaeLike I said, who we should really thank is the Romans and their foresight to make full use of their enemies' technological developments.
14:26.23GhelaeImagine what would have happened if they'd never invented automated mass-production and the steam engine!
14:26.52GhelaeWe'd be, what, 600 years away from inventing anything like cavorite.
14:27.07WormyDamn
14:27.55WormyIn fact, all of this is could be science fiction in that other unfortunate universe
14:28.33AtamolosThat would be horrible.
14:28.49GhelaeI'm sure there'd be some crazy "secret history" conspiracy theories about it, too.
14:30.54GhelaeWhen people found the traces of the technology that ancient civilisations had access to, they might even think that it was designed by aliens!
14:31.05Wormydumb
14:31.20AtamolosHey! :P\
14:33.53Wormy<PROTECTED>
14:34.11WormyHave we blown your mind Atamolos
14:34.16WormyYou are one of us now
14:34.36WormyOne of us one of us!  google gobble gooble gobble!
14:34.40MonetOne of us. One of us.
14:34.44AtamolosYou know too much.
14:35.06Atamolossilences Wormy before he tells the whole world of the secret history.
14:35.12Atamolos:>
14:38.06MonetSilly. You are the one who could treaten to tell world.
14:38.36AtamolosSilly. You know too much.
14:38.44Atamolossilences Monet.
14:39.49MonetNo.
14:40.37AtamolosYes.
14:41.15WormyNow you know too much
14:41.38AtamolosI know nothing.
14:42.09ImperiosBack
14:42.49WormyThen let me tell you more
14:43.16WormyThere were several 19th century time travellers
14:43.20MonetWe are the enlightened ones.
14:43.21AtamolosOk, but I will still know nothing.
14:49.35AtamolosGuess what?
14:49.38Atamolos~Atamolos
14:49.38infobothmm... atamolos is your master.
14:51.22WormyWho knows nothing...
14:51.33AtamolosNow you're catching on.
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15:00.19Wormyhi
15:00.32Technobliteratorheey guys
15:00.37MonetHi
15:02.26GhelaeHello.
15:04.00Atamoloshi
15:06.33ImperiosOkay, back
15:10.50MonetImperios you shouldn't be jealous of my pictures.
15:11.03MonetI like what you do as well.
15:11.14ImperiosI am jealous due to the fact you have Spore
15:11.16ImperiosWhile I don't
15:11.22ImperiosDarkspore Injection killed it :>
15:11.23MonetOh.
15:11.33ImperiosI will reinstall it now, praise piracy
15:11.38AtamolosDark injection is dum.
15:19.32WormySome idiots in the Tour De France through a flare at Bradley Wiggins D:< and he got burned, but it didn't stop him
15:19.53WormyAnd there was some cheating
15:29.20Wormy_awaytest
15:41.55TechnobliteratorImperios: you're leaving?!
15:42.03ImperiosWut
15:42.11AtamolosI just read that also.
15:42.33Technobliteratoryou said in a blog about leaving
15:43.01ImperiosI considered leaving since Cyrannian did
15:43.02AtamolosYou also said that I was impersonating Cyrannian. Dats not true.
15:43.05ImperiosBut he didn't so neither will I
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15:43.24CatfaceHi
15:43.30MonetHi
15:43.35AtamolosJust because I plan eevil things doesn't mean I'm impersonating Cyrannian.
15:43.41Atamolos:3
15:43.51TechnobliteratorImperios: oh...don't leave dam u
15:43.55Technobliteratorhey catface
15:44.01Atamoloshi
15:44.03Atamolos\
15:45.02CatfaceI put a spell on you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orNpH6iyokI
16:06.50MonetTalked with Ghelae and we worked out that if you are against an ITN marine your only option is to try and kill him before he hits you.
16:07.02MonetWith his fusion rifle.
16:07.49Technobliteratorunless youre a loron
16:07.53Ghelae10 nanograms of quagmatised hydrogen at 12 trillion K would have 2000 SP on the creature scale of the new stats system.
16:08.41MonetCover doesn't work since the weapon effectively disintegrates anything held together with gluons. Any protection has got to be something that does not hold these properties.
16:08.42Technobliteratordayumb
16:09.06Technobliteratorwe bned to make shields *really* tugh
16:09.13MonetAnd I am currently stuck since phasic shields are pointless.
16:09.34MonetPractically.
16:09.37GhelaeMetric (or "spacetime") shields are obviously impervious to gluonic weapons.
16:10.30GhelaeI suppose, with a really excessive power supply, you could make a deflector shield of quark-gluon plasma.
16:10.56Monetpeers at the DCP
16:10.57GhelaeBut that would function much like a subatomic disruptor bolt surrounding the thing that is supposed to be protected.
16:11.10MonetDat bad.
16:11.25GhelaeYes. In an atmosphere, it would disintegrate the atoms that make up the air.
16:12.15GhelaeI imagine it could work kept at a safe distance from a spaceship, but that won't help anyone going up against Draconis.
16:12.18MonetAnd spacetime shields effectively isolate the thing they are protecting from the ouside universe, right?
16:12.52GhelaeWell, I imagine there are ways of getting around that with the metric engineering equivalent of nanotechnology.
16:13.31MonetSo for much of the case, Talon Marines are pretty damn-scary.
16:13.46GhelaeI think that would effectively involve combining regular deflector shield technology with a swarm of charged micro black holes. Somehow.
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16:16.20XhoWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COLLEGE DONE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
16:16.25GhelaeHello.
16:16.29MonetHello.
16:16.33XhoAlso I had about a litre's worth of energy drink so i'm like freaking out like mad
16:17.32XhoWhere's Catface where you want to talk about guitars
16:17.39MonetGood news mate.Using science we have worked out that a Draconis proficient with a fusion rifle could be almost-unstoppable.
16:17.51Technobliteratorhey xho
16:17.55Technobliteratorlucky you
16:17.57XhoKicath - dum copycat dumbo
16:18.18XhoI played that 8-string guitar I wanted
16:18.25MonetWe worked out that a 10 nanogram round of disruptor plasma can do 2000 SP
16:18.31XhoIt was by a long shot the most bizarre instrument i've ever used
16:18.59XhoWho knew 2 strings could make such a difference
16:19.47MonetDraconis - We had OP guns long before you.
16:20.09XhoKicath - Well :juggernaut cannon: screw u
16:21.03XhoIMPERIOS Y U LEAVE WIKI
16:21.10MonetHe's not.
16:21.17Xhobeats Imperios about senselessly like a ragdoll
16:22.07XhoWait he's not?
16:22.14XhoThen why the blog
16:22.27Monet[16:35] <Ghelae> Hmm. If a gluonic weapon uses one gram of quagmatised hydrogen, the total energy within it will be equal to around 8.31 x the temperature of the quagma. That should give it an SP in at least the hundreds of billions. >> I'm glad fusion rounds will nto be so massive
16:22.50XhoKicathian Juggernaut Cannon sounds like something the Draconis would like
16:23.04XhoThe Cannon does approx. 1 SP on the Starship Scale which is 1,510,000,000 SP
16:23.23MonetDraconis - :Me gusta:
16:23.39Xho"“Awww, can I pet you? Your color is so funny, maybe we can ally and then we can dance and frolick together in the plains!"
16:23.40XhoLezia
16:23.45Xho"Your color is so funny"
16:23.52XhoDraconis - LEZIA U RACIST BASTARD GO DAI
16:24.20Atamolostest
16:24.46MonetThing is, one gram could be fired fro ma PISTOL
16:25.12XhoKicath - You know you love us right perhaps you give us this and we give you big advanced energy cannon? :3
16:25.42MonetDraconis - Nope.avi
16:26.03XhoKicath - dum no advanced cannon 4 u
16:26.29MonetDraconis - *points at the Warlord's main gun* No need
16:26.51XhoKicath - *Picks up a Juggernaut Cannon* y da fuk not
16:27.31XhoHeck if I could pick up a two-and-a-half thousand pound gun strong enough to level a considerable section of a city I would
16:27.50XhoThe Kicath mount these weapons on their ships
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16:28.09XhoIMPERIOS Y U LEAVE WIKI
16:28.15Xhobeats Imperios about senselessly like a ragdoll
16:28.26ImperiosDon't worry
16:28.30ImperiosSince waptor is not ded
16:28.33ImperiosI won't be ded too
16:28.38ImperiosAlthough I might be less active
16:28.40MonetNote at how the draconis pointed to a +10km particle cannon.
16:28.44ImperiosBut that's due to other reasons
16:28.56ImperiosI wanted to return when either waptor or Irskaad will
16:29.00ImperiosWAPTOR Y U RETURN SO EARLY
16:29.08XhoKicath - dum pistol
16:29.29XhoKicath vs Draconis on tech would be like Russia vs USA on the arms race
16:29.45MonetDI vs Kicath = WWIII
16:29.58ImperiosoKAY
16:30.08ImperiosSince Draconis have fusion rifles
16:30.14ImperiosTime to give Radeons even more OP weaponry
16:30.20MonetWhoever wins, there's not going to be much left of the Inner-Rim.
16:30.31XhoThey said no to the Kicath so I guess a nope.avi to the Radeon
16:30.59MonetDraconis don't like sharing their fusion weapon tech.
16:31.10ImperiosI do not mean sharing weaponry
16:31.16MonetHell, even on the black market expect to pay the price of a small planet for one.
16:31.25ImperiosI mean I should make something stronger than this for the Divinarium
16:31.37XhoKicath - *grumbles and goes back to the drawing board*#
16:31.51XhoThe Kicath could potentially make something like that but they're always thinking big
16:32.09XhoThey're like Russians
16:32.15XhoBig explosive shit everywhere
16:33.49XhoKicathian Juggernaut cannons do an apparent damage of about 2.75km average
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16:34.12XhoIs that 2000 SP on the creature scale or starship scale?
16:34.15MonetI think the Draconis are like the Japanese. For a lot of things they build stuff that is pretty small. Then you go into heavy engineering and they go mental for scale.
16:34.22Monetcreature scale
16:35.29MonetThink about it, 2000SP from a rifle.
16:35.39XhoThat is pretty painful
16:35.40Guest59593Radeons do their weapons small but DEADLY.
16:35.45Guest59593Okay, Ghelae
16:35.58Guest59593Your (or Wormy's) hyperspace gun idea wasn't so bad after all
16:36.03XhoMahanayan makeshift weapons in ancient times could still be a nasty weapon in the 21st century
16:36.11XhoThink a crossbow like weapon
16:36.25XhoFiring a sharpened metal rod of about 24 inches long
16:36.51XhoAnd at speed of about 350mph
16:37.02MonetDraconis have had subatomic disruptors from day-1.
16:37.10XhoThat's about 513 feet a second
16:37.27XhoWell the Draconis are like 250,000 years old
16:37.32XhoKicath are nearing 400
16:37.32MonetOnly now has the scale of damage it can do coem to light.
16:37.48MonetI mean day-1 on the wiki.
16:37.49XhoMahanayans are approximately 3500 years
16:37.52XhoOh right
16:38.24XhoWell I never expand my pages so bleh on explanations
16:38.28MonetIt's jut only now the weapon's power has coem to ligth.
16:38.38Monetlight*
16:38.43XhoAbout 156 metres a second
16:38.50MonetDayum
16:38.53XhoIf a 24 inch rod of sharpened metal hit you at 156 m a second
16:39.01MonetBe glad they don't use fusion weapons on the starship scale.
16:39.03XhoExpect your head to go splodey
16:39.33Guest59593Okay
16:39.37XhoThe Kicath's most dangerous weapon is enough to take out a star system entirely
16:39.44Guest59593Should I give black hole guns to all my soldiers then
16:39.53XhoI mentioned it once but I can't remember
16:40.02XhoI think it was called a Star Collider
16:40.16XhoWhere the Kicath basically do a DCP and make a star explode
16:40.33GhelaeBlack holes as weapons are dangerous if, for example, they hit a particularly dense bit of material, grow, fall down to the centre of the planet, and... destroy it.
16:40.42MonetThe only effective countermeasures we can come up withfor a fusion weapon are a shield of quark-gluon plasma and a spacetime shield. Neither of which are very good on the creature scale.
16:40.54XhoQuark-gluon plasma
16:40.58XhoAll I can think of
16:41.08XhoIs a shield made out of PVC glue
16:41.38GhelaeThe word "gluon" does come from the word "glue", but a shield made of glue is not quite what we had in mind.
16:41.56Monetbasically the same stuff that a subatomic disruptor uses/converts osemthing into. Unfortunately it would also disintegrate the air around it.
16:42.24Monethave the shieldo nline for too long and you suffocate.
16:43.11XhoI should really expand upon the Kicath shouldn't I
16:43.15GhelaeYou mean "have the shield online for more than a few microseconds and you're vaporised".
16:43.47Monet"Your color is so funny" To a Draconis that's like telling a Hispanic his skin colour makes him look wierd.
16:45.09MonetSo essentially any ground unit under subatomic disruptor fire is essentially fucked?
16:45.25GhelaeEssentially, yes.
16:46.00MonetThis makes invasion a lot easier.
16:46.07GhelaeUnless they have metric or hyperspatial engineering technology at a sort of high Tier 1 level.
16:46.16MonetAnd I just remembered that they also fit it to tanks.
16:47.09Monet....yeah...
16:48.30Ghelae100 g of quagmatised hydrogen in a gluonic weapon would have 1 SP on the starship scale.
16:48.50Ghelae100 kg*
16:48.52GhelaeI think.
16:49.41XhoKicath - U MESS WITH US NAO
16:50.11GhelaeTo be honest, I'm not entirely sure on my original calculations now. I might redo them.
16:50.20MonetLike I said. Draconis vs. Kicath = WWIII
16:50.33GhelaeActually, I'll just type out the method here.
16:51.15MonetOh joy
16:51.20GhelaeOne gram of hydrogen will have about 8.31 J/K (at the large temperatures we'll be dealing with, inaccuracies won't matter too much).
16:51.48GhelaeFor 2000 SP on the creature scale, we need 100,000 J.
16:52.39GhelaeThe temperature of one gram of hydrogen at 100,000 J here would be 100,000/8.31 which is about 12,000 K.
16:53.15GhelaeQuark-gluon plasma is more like 12 trillion K. So along with multiplying the temperature by one billion, we also divide the mass of hydrogen by one billion.
16:53.46GhelaeSo... one picogram?
16:56.00XhoI've updated the Kicath's size slightly, making them a bit more sizeable for a Tier 2
16:56.02MonetNono I think.
16:56.07Monetnano*
16:56.17MonetMili,  micro, nano, pico.
16:56.20XhoAbout 318,575 systems now
16:56.39GhelaeYeah; a nanogram is one millionth of a gram, not one billionth.
16:56.48Technobliteratorzaarkhun - dum Kicath get out of our galaxy
16:56.56XhoThe size of the main empire has gone from 100,000 to 105,000
16:57.14XhoProtectorates have gone from 112,000 to 212,000
16:57.28GhelaeAnd since 1 starship SP = 1 trillion creature SP, 1 starship SP can be obtained by 10^12/2000 = 500 million picograms or... half a gram.
16:57.31XhoBorealis size has stayed the same ish
16:57.35XhoWell exactly the same
16:58.08Xho177,000 in Milky Way, 139,000 in Andromeda and still 3,575 in Borealis
16:58.29GhelaeYeah; I've checked my original calculations. I don't know where I got nanograms from before.
16:59.19XhoAlthough I need to make pages for the Kicathian Clans (the civilisation from about 1.4 million BC - 710,000 BC) and the Kicathian Kingdom (710,000 BC - 2412 AD)
16:59.38Guest59593Nnnngh
16:59.42Guest59593Depression strikes again
16:59.49ImperiosThought about my ban
17:00.00ImperiosSuddenly leaving the wiki became a good option again
17:00.08Xho?
17:00.28ImperiosSometimes I have that feeling that you still have not forgiven me for my autumn actions.
17:00.34MonetSo 500 miligrams of quark-gluon plasma would cause 1SP of starship-scale damage?
17:00.39XhoI don't remember breakfast
17:00.43XhoLet alone autumn
17:01.27XhoThings to do with the Kicath Page
17:01.37ImperiosYou still have me in the lower part of the relationship page
17:01.45XhoI don't have a relations page
17:01.46ImperiosThat makes me think you have not forgiven me
17:01.51ImperiosAh, you deleted it
17:02.18ImperiosI have that paranoid people that you all hate me.
17:02.20GhelaeMonet: Yes.
17:02.21Imperios*feeling
17:02.26ImperiosHow can I get rid of it?
17:02.58Atamolos_MCdunno
17:03.30XhoHm I think you should kind of read text as reading text
17:03.35GhelaeYou could try remembering that it's just paranoia with no basis in reality. Most people here are, in truth, too apathetic to care. :P
17:04.54ImperiosNo seriously
17:05.00Atamolos_MCWhat happened in Autumn?
17:05.18ImperiosNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING
17:05.21ImperiosNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTH
17:05.43Atamolos_MCOK OK OK!
17:06.29GhelaeThat is a perfectly non-suspicious denial of events making it perfectly clear that nothing happened. :P
17:06.33XhoNothing happened?
17:06.33Ghelaecan't remember it either
17:06.35Xhok
17:08.40Atamolos_MCI wasn't even on IRC at the time.
17:08.41Technobliteratorwhat did happen in autimn? i can't remember...
17:08.56Technobliteratorso yeah
17:08.57Technobliteratorchill out
17:09.35Technobliteratoranyway
17:09.37Technobliteratorim off
17:11.02GhelaeIn other news, if 0.5 g of quagma  = 1 SP (starship scale), to get 10,000 SP you need 5 kg - about the same amount of antimatter as you'd use for the same SP.
17:21.55XhoYes
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17:30.13GhelaeHello.
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17:31.32WormyHi
17:32.04GhelaeHello.
17:32.28GhelaeI've calculated that gluonic weapons are overpowered. :P
17:32.29MonetHello.
17:33.44Wormyindeed
17:33.47Wormyhi
17:34.10WormyI'm letting overpoweredness get to my head.
17:34.13MonetAnd I seem to be the most enstensive user afaik.
17:34.22WormyI'm itching to use my hyperspace star weapons
17:34.25Monetextensive*
17:35.05GhelaeHyperspace weapons are obviously even more overpowered than gluonic ones.
17:35.09MonetThe Imperium uses gluonic weapons in infantry weapons, small-arms and on tanks.
17:37.44WormyJust think though, if this is stuff we can come up with now...  What about 1000 years of technological development
17:37.56WormyScary
17:38.06WormyNo wonder the universe is silent.
17:38.25GhelaeWell, as I've said before, when it comes to designing new technology, there are two things that are required.
17:38.42MonetYou think mutual self-assured destruction is inevitable?
17:38.52WormyProbable
17:39.18GhelaeFirst of all is the knowledge behind the physical principles required, and secondly is the creativity to come up with the application. It's the difference between, for example, knowing about electrons and designing digital computers.
17:40.08GhelaeI think it's reasonable - but obviously far from certain - that we could have a working theory of everything before the end of the century, in which case, the former would no longer limit us.
17:40.20WormyStephen Baxter used this in his interview - He called it Reality vs Imagination, and how we are limited by both and how either can expand
17:40.20GhelaeBut new and creative applications could be developed continuously into the future.
17:40.56MonetWormy: That's true, and proven.
17:41.16MonetHistory has many fine examples.
17:41.22WormySometimes I think about the future with great optimism, but then all you have to do is look at the real state of the world.
17:42.13WormyI don't believe this "Theory of Everything" is the final answer.
17:42.35WormyIt won't solve every question.
17:42.51GhelaeWith a theory of everything, we wouldn't instantly know every physical possibility, no.
17:43.25WormyIt will just open infinite horizons, because our perspective of the universe is somewhat limited that way.
17:43.45GhelaeWhat it should allow us to do is to check easily whether something would be possible within the laws of physics or not - assuming our theory of everything is correct.
17:44.20GhelaeFor example, it might tell you that negative mass is possible, but you still need to put work in to design a functional warp drive.
17:44.29WormyIn a way, if humans knew everything, the curiosity that drives of forward would collapse and we might suffer
17:45.03GhelaeI doubt the vast majority of the people on this planet are motivated by discoveries in theoretical physics.
17:45.20WormyI mean primal curiosity
17:45.30WormyTo look at something and go to it
17:45.43GhelaeI also doubt all humans will ever literally know everything. There's a big universe to explore.
17:46.11XhoKez'Ksha - bitch please
17:46.16WormyIf the humanrace was omnipresent know it alls, there would be no drive to do anything
17:47.14GhelaeThere could always be hedonism. :P
17:47.43Xhohttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fe/PossibleKicathConcept.png What the Kicath could have looked like
17:48.02MonetGelae: Sure, look how the Eldar turned out :P
17:49.09MonetInteresting look.
17:49.12GhelaeI think we're imagining that the Chaos Gods don't exist in this scenario. :P
17:49.36MonetEven if they didn't exist, Eldar scoiety went downhill fast.
17:50.06MonetEldar got so bored they looked at ways of killing to express themselves.
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17:50.43ShalonarHi
17:50.44GhelaeI think in a hypothetical super-advanced society that's advanced to the point of omnipresence and omniscience, not only would there be nothing comparable to typical civilisation to go downhill, but surely getting rid of boredom would be trivial?
17:50.47GhelaeHello.
17:51.17Xhohttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fe/PossibleKicathConcept.png You see I like this Kicath more than the current ones
17:51.19XhoBut I can't change it now
17:51.25XhoWe're used to the Kicath now
17:52.51MonetSO new kicath = more muscle, more fin-like spikes, twisting structures on the wrist and ankle, bigger chest cavity and plating on the torso?
17:53.10XhoIf I could yes
17:53.28XhoThe very very first concept of Kicath were incredibly alien looking
17:53.36GhelaeYou could always have subspecies of Kicath.
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17:54.06GhelaeHello again.
17:54.40Wormy_Science for all we know might reach dead ends, limited by it's own boundaries which the universe transecends, because, human mind could be limited that way.
17:55.21GhelaeIn a universe with limited possibilities, of course science will be limited.
17:55.48GhelaeOh, you mean what we discover in science may be limited?
17:55.50Xho"The M25 is officially the shittest road on planet earth." - Chris Wolstenholme
17:56.08Wormy_Limited by its own methods
17:56.43GhelaeThat's just getting into philosophy again.
17:57.18Wormy_Well, it could be limited because the human mind might be limited.
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17:58.03JepardiHi
17:58.04GhelaeOf course, that depends on what limits there may be to improving the human mind, and to humans' abilities to make artificial minds (and their own abilities, etc).
17:58.06GhelaeHello.
17:58.29Wormy_My brain isn't wired for example, to be a dolphin, thus, the universe is very different to a dolphin.  Maybe it experiences thing I cannot, a different access point to the universe.  A right angle to anything the human brain can understand
17:59.02Wormy_And of course, it goes the other way too.  A Dolphin isn't wired to be like a human
17:59.15XhoNgh
17:59.19XhoWhy are we talking about this
17:59.20XhoEvery
17:59.22XhoGoddamn
17:59.25XhoDay
18:00.03Wormy_Thais is part of the reason why I like transhumanism, it might give Humanity a chance to step outside it's cage.
18:00.20Xhoshakes Wormy_ until his neck snaps
18:00.24Wormy_No one is talking about anything else
18:01.59GhelaeAnd if it does, then the whole point about scientic discoveries being limited by the limits of the human mind becomes void.
18:02.31GhelaeWhic is exactly what I mentioned four minutes ago. :P
18:02.59Wormy_But it might give us infinite angles
18:03.00XhoKicath - You know, why aren't we in the Andromeda War? I mean we're more active there than in the Milky Way
18:03.44Wormy_I think TOE will indeed answer much but I doubt it's the end of discovery.
18:03.53Wormy_I sure hope it isn't
18:04.20GhelaeIf the theory of everything exists, then afterwards, the only limits will be creativity.
18:04.49GhelaeAnd a theory of everything won't tell us what life there is on other planets, or other things like that.
18:05.29GhelaeNor will it create every possible piece of art that could potentially be created. For that matter, it won't give us conclusive answers on our own history, either.
18:06.18XhoAlso one thing
18:06.29Wormy_It won't tell us how the laws of physics are the way they are.
18:06.42Wormy_By laws, I don't mean constants
18:06.53XhoShalonar: When is the Nocturnia thingamajig?
18:06.58GhelaeWell, it won't explain itself, only describe itself.
18:07.35Wormy_There we are, the limit of inquiry, either due to human mind, the limit of the concept or the fact it limits itself
18:08.54Wormy_It may well turn out TOE shows us unexpected things we didn't know before, thus unveiling more.
18:09.09GhelaeThat's one of the motivations behind finding it.
18:09.37GhelaePerhaps the theory of everything would be intuitive in some way, or the only possible and consistent option that ultimately works and makes logical sense.
18:09.47GhelaeIn that case, any further enquiry would be in the realm of maths.
18:10.03GhelaeThat's limited by Godel's incompleteness theorem in the end.
18:10.05Wormy_I suppose as well, matter is a complex thing, if you keep mountaing complexity over space and time who knows what can be possible or seen.
18:10.27GhelaeThat leads to the limits of creativity: what complexities can we imagine?
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18:10.45Wormy_We see it with Earth.  We do not yet have any definitive clue how life begam
18:11.44Wormy_TOE being everything og logic and consistency makes sense
18:11.59Wormy_*of
18:12.55Wormy_This is what I like about visionaries and science fiction authors, as well as the occasional fresh mind in the scientific or engineering community.
18:13.28Wormy_It is them who acitively think about complexities
18:13.35Wormy_*actively
18:13.36GhelaeI imagine the ToE would describe the limits of what is possible. Anything outside of it is impossible; anything imaginable inside of it is possible.
18:15.39Wormy_Everything within TOE is interelated.  You can't have a physical object that has no interaction with anything else.  Even dark energy, wakly interacts via gravitation
18:15.49Wormy_Thius is realised
18:16.10Wormy_I suppose you can build the level IV Multiverse out of this
18:17.40Wormy_I suppose the fundemental level, like in our last discussion seems to be energy.  Even spacetime and dimension are rules generated by energy in relation to itself.
18:20.47GhelaeYes. And that's why everything interacts, at least, with gravitation.
18:21.24MonetXho: We need dat wabbit
18:21.43Xhostarts waving carrots
18:22.15GhelaeAlthough I prefer to think of energy as being a basic property of spacetime rather than vice-versa. Like how in modern quantum field theory, particles and the fundamental, simplest excitations of quantum fields.
18:22.23Ghelaeparticles are the*
18:22.40XhoOh hell no
18:22.47GhelaeAs always, presumably, a ToE would settle the matter.
18:22.48XhoMichael Clarke Duncan is in hospital
18:22.50XhoOH HELL NO
18:25.48Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Andromeda_War/The_Darkest_Hour#Corteus after this, I think Nocturnia needs to start.
18:26.36MonetCorteus might be a refreshing change to the wiki In the sense that he is a cyborg but he doesn't think "hur I am superor to all".
18:26.47Monetsuperior*
18:28.47XhoKicath - dum y we not in war
18:28.50XhoWait that's my fault
18:29.04MonetU lazi.
18:29.06XhoI suppose the AGC could hire extra help
18:30.20MonetFight Grox because so far the expedition is unreachable.
18:30.47XhoHur
18:30.55XhoNexus Grox, Nocturnia, Archdemon's Wall
18:31.02XhoI'm in the war without doing shit
18:32.39XhoHm
18:32.52XhoI doubt anyone would mind the Kicath in for a small section of the war?
18:33.37MonetPerhaps they are also combating the mechovirus?
18:33.52MonetGrox Kicath. Hmm that is bad.
18:34.01XhoWell the Kicath are a large section of Andromeda
18:34.08XhoNot huge but large to be like "uh oh"
18:34.56XhoKicath - ohai AGC sorry we no fight but we can helpz nao
18:35.25GhelaeThe Kicath might have to be dealing with Mechovirus in both Andromeda and the Milky Way.
18:35.42XhoKicath Grox
18:35.50Xhongh that's not good at all
18:36.20MonetSo far the only solution to a mechovirus infestation is a plnet-scale EMP.
18:36.27Monetplanet*
18:36.48XhoHm
18:36.53XhoKicath should be able to do that easily
18:39.43MonetThere's one big problem with an EMP like that. Unless precuations are taken (and as long as electronics are designed to be suscepteble to EMP) every other ship on thep lanet will short-circuit.
18:39.51XhoHm
18:40.02XhoOkay the Kicath will have problems with the Agents then
18:40.05MonetThat is a lot of re-wiring.
18:40.45XhoWell maybe if the Kicath have taken a lot of consideration into EMP-resistant Agent shells
18:41.20Monetmaybe. Or the agents stay off-world.
18:41.25XhoHm
18:41.56XhoWell the Kicath are going to join in Nocturnia stage
18:43.05MonetHow? The only people who knew its location are in its vicinity.
18:43.31MonetAnd Larnus but he only knows the rough area.
18:43.57MonetWe could retcon for the kicath to be with the expedition all along.
18:44.06XhoTrue
18:44.28XhoUnless the AGC present the info to the Kicath and the Kicath are like "...k"
18:44.48XhoI dunno if anyone knows that Nocturnia is NOT in the Archdemon's Wall
18:44.57XhoI'll keep mentioning that until everyone gets that straight
18:45.00MonetWe said it was near.
18:45.46MonetBut cloe enough for the wall to be visible.
18:46.56XhoMore or less
18:47.26XhoI dunno whether the war has given users the poetic license to shape the planet in their image
18:47.41XhoBecause if it has
18:47.44XhoYou all need a smack
18:48.01MonetDon't worry we're sticking to your design.
18:48.33MonetStill not sure how the expedition will be able to withstand the gravity of the planet.
18:49.03XhoThe planet is in its own state of physics
18:49.20Imperios_you know what have I thought
18:49.33Imperios_What supernatural we have so far with undead-ish motifs?
18:49.36Imperios_Other than Moxix
18:49.40Imperios_*supernaturals
18:49.43GhelaePresumably, it could just be the same way that spaceship crews withstand the accelerations required to reach relativistic spaceflight - they have artificial gravity in the other direction cancelling it out.
18:50.53XhoIf the Kicath join in Kithworto
18:51.06XhoKithworto is semi-undead
18:51.22XhoDeath Energy does that to you
18:51.56XhoAlthough there might have to be a story on how the Kicath enter the last stages of the war
18:52.07Imperios_I was reading pony fanfics and I thought of a new idea
18:52.08XhoLike I said AGC ask the Kicath to get whooped by Nocturnians
18:52.27Imperios_Mali'Nar getting followers by having, sort of, refuge in insanity.
18:52.35MonetI'm going to br bringing Blood Dragon redshirts.
18:53.08XhoI think I forgot to mention something about Kicath that isn't that important
18:53.36XhoTheir irises are luminous
18:53.43Monethttp://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120712234942/spore/images/6/6a/2BGWShadymeeting.png I showed last nigth and Wormy's one this. Can anyone see what the Draconis is looking at?
18:53.57XhoA very shadowy figure
18:54.19MonetHow come Oluap and Atamolos are the only peopel who can't see it?
18:54.25Imperios_The black screen.
18:54.43XhoProbably wearing glasses
18:54.43MonetOkay add Imperios to that lost :>
18:55.08XhoI doubt anyone with vision impairment could see that
18:55.15XhoMy eyesight's perfect and I can barely make it out
18:55.27Imperios_Okay
18:55.32Imperios_I saw a shadowy figure now
18:55.48Monetis devious
18:55.59Wormy_I think their monitor settings were different.
18:56.13Imperios_It looks like a Kicath or a skinny Draconis...
18:56.13Wormy_Or it was the type that changes depending on the angle
18:56.37XhoSo is anyone willing to do anything about making the Kicath come into the war?
18:56.49Wormy_On my new monitor for example, my images appear brighter, and I can see all the annoying artifacts in the images meant to be in space
18:56.53MonetXho: Can't you write it?
18:57.26MonetI loved Oluap's reaction when he modified the image brightness on his computer.
18:57.47MonetHe actually accused me of witchcraft.
18:58.29XhoWell ok but I need permission to use characters
18:58.44XhoNamely some high-profile AGC characters
18:59.04MonetWho did you have in mind?
18:59.14XhoI dunno, how would appeal to Agent Alpha?
18:59.17Xho*who
18:59.20XhoOr Kithworto actually
18:59.33XhoAlpha is preoccupied with the Borealis War
19:00.03Imperios_Okay, should I expand Divinarium government?
19:00.51Imperios_So far I have Iovera as the supreme leader, Andorrus in charge of internal politics, Ma'fest in charge of external politics and intelligence...
19:00.58Imperios_And Matheoward as a military leader.
19:01.05MonetXho the call at the beginning was for all AGC members and allies, which would ahve included the Kicath.
19:01.13XhoI know
19:01.20XhoBut I don't want the Kicath to be in there since the beginning
19:02.11Imperios_Perhaps they couldn't participate due to some of their own reasons
19:02.13Imperios_And now they can
19:02.46MonetOut of those at the meeting. Larnus was the only Draconid official who remained behind.
19:03.02XhoThe Kicath were occupied with Tzhrhokia
19:03.19XhoBut now that's gone to pot the Kicath are like 'lol kk bye' and ran the fuck out of the war
19:03.43XhoIf Larnus could appeal to Kithworto's nature then I could use him
19:04.41MonetHmm.
19:05.49Monetlarnus could appeal as a warrior. He's intelligent and cunning but he's not a diplomat.
19:06.00XhoSounds good to me
19:06.13XhoHow would it sound if Larnus went with a small team into a Kicathian ecumenopolis?
19:06.58MonetThat sounds okay. He might bring a couple of dedicated diplomats jut in case.
19:07.32XhoIs a good way of describing Larnus 'patient'?
19:08.21XhoOr aggressive-patient
19:08.34MonetHe's very patient.
19:08.40XhoI need to get Larnus' personality otherwise it could get awry with Kithworto
19:10.19MonetAlso he would generally have a backup ortwo in mind.
19:10.38Xho2
19:10.40XhoWhoops
19:10.42Xho"He prides himself on being immaculate"
19:10.51XhoHe might not like a Kicathian bar then
19:11.00XhoAh well he can put up with it I guess
19:11.21MonetHe's probably seen worse.
19:11.35XhoI'd be surprised if he didn't
19:11.58XhoThink a very masculine bar with occasional fights and a lot of drinking, smoking and gambling
19:12.09XhoGambling isn't outlawed in the Kicath Empire which is strange
19:12.45MonetHis version of 'hell' is watching as your fleet gets torn arpart by lasers with your own ship burning around you.
19:12.48XhoI'll see what I can do with the characters
19:12.52XhoOh ok Kicath aren't that bad
19:12.53MonetOkay.
19:12.54XhoTry Cult
19:13.10XhoWhere should I put it?
19:13.31MonetWhat I mean is, he's a dedicated sea(or space)man.
19:13.46XhoAs in the story
19:13.49XhoWhere should I put this story
19:14.56MonetPerhaps just after Kalenas States? That would give them time to gather their forces.
19:15.11Xhok
19:15.21Jeparditest
19:15.54XhoI'll make an image of this meeting sometime later
19:16.47XhoHm, what should this section be called
19:17.04Imperios_Kalenas Sateds
19:17.09Imperios_*Sates
19:17.33XhoNot that section I mean the section i'm about to write
19:17.49XhoHm
19:18.57Monet"A Late Entry"?
19:19.18Xhok
19:21.17Xho4 diplomats is enough?
19:24.05XhoMonet: beep
19:24.12Xho4 diplomats is enough?
19:24.58Imperios_It is, I guess
19:28.46XhoI think Monet is dead
19:36.23MonetSorry. 2 diplomat would be enugh.
19:38.02MonetI'm trying MAss Effect 3's multiplayer
19:39.33Jeparditest
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19:45.54Imperios_Hi Oluap
19:46.03OluapWorkerhello
19:46.23Imperios_I do still pity that you did not participate in Andromeda War
19:46.39Imperios_Andromeda War was pretty small people-wise
19:46.48Imperios_Only a few people were actively working on it.
19:48.33OluapWorkerI wanted to participate but everyone decided to ignore me when I wanted to talk about it
19:48.37OluapWorkerSo I just gave up
19:48.52Imperios_Ah
19:49.00Imperios_Andromeda War was my and Monet's first major fiction
19:49.08Imperios_So it wasn't supposed to be large anyway
19:50.02Imperios_After I will finish making my Andromeda update
19:50.08Imperios_Should I work on Borealis or Cyrannus
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19:50.21MonetYou've been in other major fictions.before. This was my first one.
19:50.25OluapWorkerWhatever you want
19:50.43Imperios_Yes, Monet, but this is the first fiction where I do play a major role.
19:50.47Imperios_Hi Jo
19:51.03Imperios_I hope more people will be atttracted to my next fiction?
19:51.31Imperios_*no ?
19:52.27Wormy_omg wow http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-500857912288%3Aview-top_rated_new
19:53.05Technobliteratorhey guys
19:53.18Imperios_Wait what
19:53.19OluapWorkerhi
19:53.21Technobliteratorwhat's this new fiction
19:53.24Imperios_MPN filled with GOOD stuff?
19:53.34Imperios_Technobliterator: Secret :>
19:53.41Technobliteratorokaii...
19:53.48Technobliteratornon-war right?
19:53.48Imperios_It will be about the future
19:53.52Imperios_Yes
19:53.59Imperios_With the Andromeda War ending, what future beckons?
19:54.17Technobliteratorwhen does it end
19:54.22Imperios_Soon
19:54.27Technobliteratorand will new future be post-Meta Empire?
19:54.31Imperios_TDH is the final stage
19:54.33Imperios_Of course Jo
19:54.44Imperios_I will talk with Monet about the timeline now
19:56.11Imperios_At first I thought that AW gonna be longer and there would be a next war after it
19:56.23Imperios_But then I scrapped that idea and with Monet we came up with something better.
19:56.24Technobliteratorthen you decided 'wars dum'
19:56.29Imperios_Yep
19:56.50Imperios_But ther won't be a big war officially. What does await beyond the shadows?
19:57.03OluapWorkerGorf
19:57.46OluapWorkerBorealis War has no end at sight
19:57.53OluapWorkerIt's definetly larger than the Fog War
19:58.07Technobliteratoryup
19:58.13Technobliteratoris that a bad thing though...?
19:58.36Jeparditest
19:58.43OluapWorkerdum question
19:58.50OluapWorkerif it was I would have ranted already[
19:59.02Technobliteratordum answer
19:59.23Technobliteratorany of you guys ever had that moment where you get pissed off for like no reason..?
19:59.35OluapWorkerYes
19:59.44Technobliteratortrust me man i hate that feeling
19:59.53Imperios_I have that feeling near-constantly
19:59.59OluapWorkerXho is that feeling in human form
20:00.05Technobliteratorlol
20:00.10XhoWhat's that?
20:00.24OluapWorker"any of you guys ever had that moment where you get pissed off for like no reason"
20:00.26Technobliteratori had this feeling today and i must have pissed so many people off buyt they'll get over it
20:00.29OluapWorkerYou're like this 24/7
20:00.40OluapWorkeralso hai dam u
20:00.55Imperios_I'm paranoid 24/7, this is slightly different but still
20:01.35Technobliteratorit's like you have friendly banter where you take the piss out of each other but then you're in this shit mood and the banter pissres you off. and when you let it bottle up over a few hours it sucks
20:01.38XhoTrue shit
20:01.49OluapWorkerThat Kicath concept
20:01.55OluapWorkerIt looks like a Nocturnian
20:02.41XhoThe Nocturnians were based off the old Kicath
20:03.00OluapWorkergeezush they are looping
20:03.24Imperios_Xho: Old nocturnians as in black/cyan weird dudes right?
20:03.31Imperios_With black eyes
20:03.38XhoAye
20:03.50Imperios_*old Kicath
20:03.53OluapWorkerI remember the first Kicath
20:03.57Imperios_Black dudes
20:04.01Imperios_They were pretty cute
20:04.03Imperios_Bring them back
20:04.04TechnobliteratorImperios_: where's irsk gone he goes on his steam that he's unavailable
20:04.04OluapWorkerThey looked like they were made of jello
20:04.27Imperios_Technobliterator: His mom cut his internet connection off.
20:04.29XhoThe Kicath were going to be like that but the even older (incredibly old) Kicath were actually similar to the ones now but with the similar skin colour to the jello Kicath
20:04.44TechnobliteratorImperios_: oh...sad! i bet he's pissed off...why did she?
20:04.59Imperios_He did something "emotional" in public.
20:05.19Imperios_I dunno what does he mean exactly. I guess it was a mental breakdown or something.
20:05.26OluapWorkerWouldn't be surprised if he screamed that he hates her in public
20:05.56Imperios_Dur
20:06.14Imperios_He asked me to act like he did not talk with me about her
20:06.34Technobliteratormeaning...?
20:07.01OluapWorkermeanin dat yor a losa go dai
20:07.21Technobliteratorwanna slap
20:07.40Imperios_I was not able to talk with his mom, as she came she commanded him to turn his connection off anyway
20:07.56Technobliteratoroh
20:08.00Technobliteratorwhy would you talk to his mom..?
20:08.52OluapWorker~whip Xho
20:08.53infobotACTION takes Xho outside to be thoroughly whipped by oluapworker
20:08.58OluapWorkerwrite gorf king story nao
20:09.03Xhodum i'm writing story
20:09.06XhoNot dat story
20:09.07XhoAnother story
20:09.13OluapWorkerwrite dat story nao
20:09.38XhoI'm currently writing a story of Larnus going to Kithworto to see if the Kicath Empire will help in the Andromeda War
20:10.14OluapWorkerLarnus - hi    Kithworto - FUK UUUUUU
20:10.28XhoActually Kithworto is being calm about it
20:10.28GhelaeHello.
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20:10.44OluapWorkerimpossibru
20:10.54Catface_Yes it is.
20:11.02Imperios_Hi
20:11.10XhoCatface_: I played the H-308 today
20:11.12GhelaeHello.
20:11.35Monethttp://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532581_460793643940590_556748264_n.jpg - Number One what on Earth are you foing?
20:11.37Catface_And how did that make you feel?
20:11.51XhoBizarre shit
20:11.57Xho8-Strings are bizarre shit
20:12.00OluapWorkerYou are a bizarre shit yes
20:15.41Catface_Monet just turned into this http://www.austin18wheeleraccidentlawyer.co/library/images/stock-images/trucking/double-truck-yellow.jpg
20:16.32Catface_Xho: I really wanna do a cover of this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orNpH6iyokI
20:22.26Catface_test
20:25.38Technobliteratori'm so bored
20:26.05Catface_Listen to Rush.
20:26.19Atamoloswrite clash of the titans uno story
20:26.20Technobliteratori'm listening to something else
20:26.29Catface_I'm sure Rush is better.
20:26.31Technobliteratori dunno what to do for it Atamolos
20:27.13Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Andromeda_War/The_Darkest_Hour#A_Late_Entry There
20:27.24OluapWorkerLate Entry
20:27.29OluapWorkerfunni cus xho's lazi
20:28.04Technobliteratorbtw Catface_ aerosmith have a new song
20:28.14Catface_Orly?
20:28.47Catface_Is it worth my time?
20:28.53Technobliteratorfind out for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iXNwEaQoJU&feature=branded
20:29.18Technobliteratorit sounds quite like walk this way
20:30.52OluapWorkerNocturnian Imperator takes over Kithworto's mind
20:30.56OluapWorkerXi'Arazkha - GET UR OWN
20:31.10Catface_Girls on rollerskates? Sure.
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20:32.32Atamoloswut
20:32.52Catface_Best song Aerosmith has made in along time.
20:33.02Xho*a lomg
20:33.04XhoNgh
20:33.06Xho*a long
20:33.15Xhosnaps Catface_
20:33.24Technobliteratoryou like it then?
20:33.38OluapWorkerlul u suk at grammar nazi-in'
20:33.57Catface_Yes
20:33.59Xho*Laugh-Out-Loud: U suck at being a Grammar Nazi
20:34.05Xho~smack OluapWorker
20:34.05infobotACTION smacks OluapWorker upside the head.
20:34.17OluapWorkerbreaks Xho's fingers
20:34.21Xhoerm
20:34.22Xhofuk
20:34.27Catface_I will spell how ever i please becuz i am not editing an stuff
20:34.34AtamolosYou are terrible at becoming a grammar Nazi.
20:34.47Catface_Techno:Yes
20:36.22XhoUriel + Tyraz + Iovera + Kilnok = Happy Days
20:36.32XhoUriel + Tyraz + Iovera + Kilnok + Kithworto = Oh shit here we go
20:36.45OluapWorkerUriel + Tyraz + Iovera + Kilnok + Kithworto + Koluap
20:36.56XhoOh god
20:37.07XhoIs Koluap going to be there as well?
20:37.10OluapWorkerNope
20:37.29OluapWorkerIndocs have no presence in Andromederp
20:38.17Monet_semiBu the sounds of the story, Kithworto is libing alrge.
20:38.22Monet_semiliving*
20:39.18OluapWorkerThe main Indoc chars are all inactive actually
20:39.24OluapWorkerBaptarion stole all the spotlight
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20:40.33Catface_Hi
20:40.55XhoIf a Kicath can throw you into a wall if you lose in a gambling game
20:40.58XhoYou know shit will go down
20:41.31OluapWorkerKoluap screams at the game then throws lava at it
20:42.48XhoKithworto - OH THAT SET COST ME FIVE THOUSAND DORRU
20:42.54TechnobliteratorOluapWorker: can we rename Borealis credits to Borealis Credits?
20:43.04Technobliteratorthe caps seems dum
20:43.09Technobliteratoror lack of
20:43.15Xhohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_uzwAiNVGU Based on this
20:43.21OluapWorkerTechnobliterator: It is already Borealis Credits
20:43.36TechnobliteratorOluapWorker: I thoguht it was Borealis credits
20:43.36OluapWorkerKoluap - IF I CAN'T HAVE FUN THEN NO ONE CAN
20:43.44OluapWorkerEither one would be correct
20:43.44Imperios_Wait
20:43.49Imperios_Wjhat is the difference
20:43.55Technobliteratorcaps on "Credits"
20:43.57Imperios_The capitals?
20:44.05Imperios_Ah, use both
20:44.07XhoThing is Kithworto always wins gambling games
20:44.21XhoThe ability to assess minds gives him an unfair advantage no one knows about
20:44.24OluapWorkerKoluap - Stop cheating please
20:44.47OluapWorkerKithworto looks into Koluap's mind
20:44.50OluapWorkerKithworto - Fuck I'm dizzy
20:45.07XhoIf he tried Ekthrikos he'd get sent into some state of limbo
20:45.48OluapWorkerThe darkest corners of Koluap's mind could probably make him scream "MAKE ME UNSEE THAT"
20:45.54Imperios_Apparently
20:45.57Imperios_In my fiction,
20:46.01Imperios_(I have some plans)
20:46.07XhoKithworto - ah man wat is dat shit
20:46.15OluapWorkerKoluap - MAH shit
20:46.18Imperios_There are some Artharon/Radeon pairings, Radeon is always male while an Artharon is female
20:46.23Imperios_Yes, and not vice versa
20:46.24Imperios_Weird
20:46.33XhoKithworto has been mindraped by a dark god and has been into Angazhar's plane of Chaos
20:46.46XhoKithworto - WHAT I HAVE SEEN
20:46.56XhoKithworto - U READ MY MIND DAMMIT U READ IT NAO
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20:47.08OluapWorkerKoluap - I would if I could
20:47.09LakazHEy all
20:47.11Imperios_Hi
20:47.16Catface_Hi
20:47.30Catface_King Diamond is a pretty creepy guy.
20:48.27OluapWorkerKithworto reads Pyro's mind
20:48.29OluapWorkerKithworto dies
20:48.46XhoOr will it be
20:48.48XhoTwo Pyros
20:49.04OluapWorkerXi'Arazkha, by extension, also turns into a Pyro
20:49.33XhoThree Pyros
20:49.34OluapWorkerWar of Ages: "Do You Believe In Magic" Edition
20:50.52Imperios_Kamik'Shi summons a huge rainbow explosion
20:50.57Imperios_Universe is happy forever
20:51.07Atamolosnein
20:51.10XhoOh hell
20:51.13XhoI mean rainbow
20:51.15XhoWhatever
20:51.29OluapWorkershoves a lollipop down Xho's throat
20:51.35Xho"Whenever you're feeling down, remember; you're the sperm that won"
20:51.39XhoWhat a quote
20:51.46OluapWorkerhur
20:52.14XhoLike most Kicath
20:52.25XhoKithworto smokes and drinks like it's the end of the world
20:52.49Catface_Xho: Rainbow explosion? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0wEYtmmuFQ
20:52.59XhoWell not drink
20:53.08XhoKithworto's ability to regenerate his body disallows him to get drunk
20:53.52Atamolosgives Kithworto a Captain America shield.
20:54.01XhoKithworto could win a drinking game VERY easily
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20:54.06XhoI don't get the Captain America reference
20:54.06Lakaz_Sorry, dc'ed after last thing i said, what'd i miss?
20:54.26Atamoloswut
20:54.29XhoBasically a lot of rainbows and dark gods
20:54.32XhoI don't get the Captain America reference
20:54.34Lakaz_Ah...
20:54.48OluapWorkerAnd now ZUUS
20:54.52OluapWorkerhurls thunderbolts at Xho
20:54.58Xhoturns into a battery
20:55.01Lakaz_Is it just me or do sperm share a lot of the charecteristics of viruses except that they assimilate, rather than kill, the cell they latch onto?
20:55.10Lakaz_They're... Borg viruses, or something...
20:55.13Xhothen turns into a gun
20:55.34OluapWorkerxhogun
20:55.37Xhotazes OluapWorker
20:55.42Atamolosuses Xho to kill Monet_semi
20:55.48OluapWorkerDon't taze me bro
20:55.55Lakaz_*Gets in a catapult, fires self as Oluapworker, and turns into thermite*
20:55.57Xhoi taze u in da twiddle-diddles
20:56.03OluapWorkergeezush
20:56.05OluapWorkerded
20:56.45XhoBut no I don't get the Captain America reference
20:56.54OluapWorkerScrew Captain America
20:56.55XhoI don't read comic books...or even read in general
20:56.58Lakaz_turns back and buries Oluap, paying entirely for the funeral
20:56.59OluapWorkerreplaces it with Captain Planet
20:57.16AtamolosIn the new Captain America movie his body's cells regenerate so quickly, he can't get drunk.
20:57.23Lakaz_Xho, you're reading this right now.
20:57.32XhoTrue but I don't remember it
20:57.33AtamolosI don't read comic books either.
20:57.53Catface_You see someone about to jump off a tall building. What do you do?
20:57.54XhoIt's quite amazing that I can get an A* in English while never reading at all
20:57.54Lakaz_You remember long enough to reply to it.
20:58.09XhoCatface_: Jump off with them and see where they're going...oh wait
20:58.22Catface_lawl
20:58.23XhoYeah but I don't remember breakfast
20:58.33OluapWorkerYou get a sniper rifle and try to score a midair headshot
20:58.35Lakaz_Catface: Get a trampoline and put it beneath them, then jump on trampoline.
20:59.11Lakaz_Why? Because i like trampolines.
20:59.27Catface_I would play Jump by Van Halen.
20:59.30Atamolosthrows trampolines at Lakaz_.
20:59.56Lakaz_jumps on them while they are still mid-air
21:00.12AtamolosIMPOSSIBRU
21:00.32Lakaz_Hrm, here's one: YOu see a man about to shoot himself in the head, what do you do?
21:00.53AtamolosLoot him.
21:00.54Lakaz_My brother's response: I try to shoot him in the arm to force him to drop the gun, but i'm a terrible shot so i hit him in the face instead.
21:01.12OluapWorkerSteal gun, kill man, you just got a new gun
21:01.18AtamolosThen loot him.
21:01.50Lakaz_Okay, lemme re-word this. You see a hot girl about to shoot herself in the head. What do you do?
21:01.58AtamolosLoot her.
21:02.02Imperios>>Xho then turns into a gun
21:02.06ImperiosMegaxhotron?
21:02.21XhoNo
21:02.22Lakaz_Be aware: Your answer must be in the form of a trampoline.
21:02.22XhoXhogun
21:02.23ImperiosFuk dis
21:02.32OluapWorkerdum
21:02.35Imperiosturns into a truck
21:02.42Imperiosgoes and smacks Megaxhtor
21:02.47Imperios*Megaxhtron
21:02.52Atamolosdrives Imperios off a cliff.
21:03.00OluapWorkerSilly, trucks have no arms to smack people
21:03.35ImperiosHm
21:03.47Imperiosdrives over Megaxhtron
21:03.55ImperiosYou are a gun :>
21:04.01ImperiosI can break you
21:04.15OluapWorkerXhogun is made of Nokias
21:04.18OluapWorkerSo no you can't
21:04.35Atamolos~shoot herself
21:04.36infobotACTION shoots herself in the eye with a cork gun!
21:04.39ImperiosI have been using Nokias for ages before my new HTC
21:04.44Atamolos~kill herself
21:04.44infobotACTION shoots a excited electron gun at herself
21:04.44ImperiosThey broke like hell
21:04.52Atamolosloots infobot.
21:07.20XhoWell I have an iPhone so *fingers up*
21:07.45OluapWorkersilly I broke your finger
21:10.50Xholooks at Source Filmmaker
21:11.02XhoReady to play in approximately 27 seconds
21:11.04Xholooks again
21:11.07Xho10 MINUTES FUCK OFF
21:11.17OluapWorkerI can't even install it
21:11.19OluapWorkerI get an error
21:11.23OluapWorkerSo quit ye whinin'
21:12.26Imperios_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Andromeda_War/The_Darkest_Hour#Rising_Tide Here another one
21:12.32Catface_suxs4u
21:17.31OluapWorkermakes Xho marry Lezia
21:18.01Xhohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKss2uYpih8
21:18.32Atamolosgrrr he hasn't made Alvino ships I can kill
21:19.15ShalonarBack
21:22.43Catface_YOU BROKE THE RULES! EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE MAD!
21:24.20Atamoloswut
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21:26.13Catface_A song about me www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gWQQHHEz04
21:40.51MonetI seem to have gained a talent for scoring headshots when both me and my target are moving.
21:44.20MonetThis is with a sniper rifle btw.
21:45.13Catface_Why must you hurt people?
21:45.57MonetDon't worry my last mission involved the Geth.
21:46.12MonetAnd the mision before was zombies.
21:46.48MonetTherefore I am doing nothing morally wrong.
21:52.59Catface_Leaving dead people not zombies.
21:54.05MonetConsidering waht the Reapers do to them, I am being nice by killing them.
21:55.03Catface_Someone could say the same about red heads.
21:55.17MonetDat prejudiced.
21:55.58MonetThe only reall huting i'm doing is with soldiers working in Cerberus. But tbh they were all being complete bastards.
21:56.17MonetLike shooting unarmed civillians.
21:56.40MonetOr kidnapping chidren for creuel experiemnts.
21:57.25Catface_That is a nice of them.
22:09.55Xho"Your mom is so fat her passport photo was taken by Google Earth"
22:14.30Catface_I'm proud of that.
22:22.22Catface_test
22:22.32Catface_So Xho I have a question.
22:22.54Xho?
22:23.50Catface_Would you rather sing like King Diamond or Steven Tyler?
22:24.32XhoDunno
22:25.12Catface_makes Xho look like Steven Tyler
22:26.05XhoOh god
22:27.04Catface_Now you can kidnap small children by hiding them in your mouth!
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22:39.50Catface_Hi
22:40.08The_RandomnessHello and goodbye
22:42.10XhoWell that was a good conversation
22:42.36Catface_Indeed.
22:44.09Monet|AwayHello
22:45.02Catface_http://i.imgur.com/OIyWI.jpg
22:45.06Catface_Hi
22:51.52Catface_Xho: Kanye West would get a lot of speeding tickets http://i.imgur.com/H9kLk.jpg
22:52.08Xhoololol
22:57.36Catface_All the jimmies where rusled that day http://i.imgur.com/Fvafs.gif
23:00.51Catface_http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/19351486.jpg
23:01.58Xhooh heck
23:03.03Catface_u dun goof'd son
23:30.03Catface_So
23:30.13Catface_I just stubbed my toe.
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23:57.03Catface_I was so alone.
23:57.22OluapPlayerAnd you'll stay like that
23:58.04Catface_:(

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