IRC log for #sporewiki on 20120615

00:00.08OluapPlayerOh yeah i'm supposed to do that
00:00.18OluapPlayerKeep it in mind so you can tell me what that is
00:00.21OluapPlayercus waptor wont tell me
00:00.22OluapPlayer:>
00:00.31CyrannianWell played sir!
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00:01.26AtamolosTHAT HAS GOT TO BE THE SEVENTH TIME TODAY THAT MY INTERNET HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED!
00:01.33AtamolosLuckily, it's fixed.
00:02.16DaaxAndroideek a bio
00:03.06Atamolosdisables Irskaad's internet, leaving him unable to communicate with the Cult, Chosen, and Acolytes.
00:03.30Tybusenreenables Irsk's internet
00:03.52Atamolosbrands a trollface onto Tybusen's face.
00:04.25Tybusenbrands a Forever Alone face onto Atamolos' face
00:04.33TybusenTrololo
00:04.46Atamolosis made of physic-ish stuff and has no solid face.
00:09.31LotG_Well goodnight folks
00:09.36CyrannianI love Weetabix.
00:09.38CyrannianBye!
00:09.44LotG_Same, Weetabix is good
00:09.52LotG_Anyhoo, cya!
00:09.54AtamolosWhat?
00:09.59Wormybye
00:10.27WormyI like experimenting with weetabix
00:11.04DaaxAndroidWeetabix is a cereal, right?
00:11.16CyrannianOh, what stuff do you put on it?
00:12.03DaaxAndroidMilk? :P
00:12.06MonetDaakAndrid: It is. You wouldn't like it.
00:12.13DaaxAndroidWhy?
00:12.29WormyAll sorts of weird things!  Fried banana and maple syrup
00:12.55DaaxAndroidgoes back to eating crunch
00:12.56Monetbanana, apple, biscuit, strawberreis, chocolate...
00:13.05WormyYou can put anythin g you like oneetabix
00:13.09CyrannianI actually haven't experimented with it, even though I've been eating it since I was small.
00:13.48WormyIts nice with ice cream.  What I put on itr isn't necessarily healthy
00:16.32TybusenWho said we had to eat healthy *lives in America*
00:16.42AtamolosThat's true.
00:17.13Atamolos*with Russian accent* These Americans and their 'fast food'.\
00:17.37DaaxAndroidHe HaAo :P
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00:18.25DaaxAndroidGoing bai
00:18.30MonetHi
00:18.33MonetI do like toast with marmelade in the mornings.
00:19.02zillafire1012Hello all
00:19.13Tybusen*with Russian accent* Those capitalist Americans gorge themselves on their capitalist food. We Soviet Russians stay lean and healthy since we only get a slice of bread a day from the government!
00:19.55zillafire1012Good luck with that.
00:20.03TybusenHi zilla
00:20.47OluapPlayerMass Effect time
00:21.53MonetI would like to know: Do people think I am being too ambitious thinking the Draconid Imperium could compete with other great gigaquadrant powers?
00:23.37MonetThe thought of whether this assumption was reason or ego has been bugging me for a while.
00:24.32zillafire1012I don't really know, I'm still a new guy here.
00:27.46TybusenNot too ambitious
00:28.29TybusenI mean if thinking that the TIAF could soon be a Gigaquadrant competitor isn't overly ambitious, then thinking the Draconis could too isn't too ambitious either
00:38.27MonetTrue.
00:40.51Monethttp://sporewiki.ucoz.com/load/0-0-0-11-20 This is the voice of mentracus, secret leader of the Imperium's Royal Intelligence Agency.
00:44.12MonetHow is the voice?
00:44.27TybusenIt's not loading
00:44.35zillafire1012I can't really understand him.
00:44.53MonetI tried to keep it clear.
00:45.30Monet“I am a shadow, a ghost seen only in the darkest corners of the universe, and I know every one of your dirty little secrets...”
00:46.58zillafire1012Ah.
00:49.20zillafire1012Still, Very good job
00:55.23Monethttp://youtu.be/qZSPE9T16hA how abotu this?
00:55.41MonetSame file but I added a pretty picture.
00:57.14Cyrannianhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/3/38/NeraidaApollo.png - Blarg!
00:58.16MonetInteresting.
01:01.21zillafire1012Wow.
01:02.27zillafire1012Republic commando time. I have trandoshans to kill.
01:03.23MonetI don't know why but 'neriada' reminds me of how Picard adopted the name 'Locutus' after assimilation.
01:03.59CyrannianOh, it's nothing to do with Apollo's name.
01:04.17MonetI didn't think so.
01:04.41AtamolosWhat are the 'Neriada'? I have seen that name on multiple pages.
01:05.02CyrannianThey'll be revealed soon.
01:05.30Atamolosgrowls at cliffhangers.
01:06.13AtamolosI'm off to make ships to be slaughtered by the Catharsis at a later date.
01:06.24Cyrannianlol
01:06.54Monet"galbatorix is lower end demi-god, many sith-lords can beat out anything he can do." - Corect me if I am wrong but wasn't Galbatorix that evil guy from Eragorn?
01:08.16MonetThen againa ccording to Wormy's blog the Dovahkiin are classed as demi-gods.
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01:11.44CatfaceHi
01:12.11Catfacegives Cyrannian a small child
01:12.42MonetGoodnight.
01:12.59CatfaceNight
01:13.53MonetI should stop playing guessing-games with Cyrannian, it is clear his devious mind far surpasses mine :P
01:14.36CatfaceI taught him everything he knows.
01:16.09MonetStill. At least not all his plots are imenetrable to decipher. I jut knew Apollo would becoem a robot.
01:16.53MonetAnyway, i'm off.
01:18.06Cyrannianeats the small child
01:18.20CyrannianAny news on your sister?
01:19.17CatfaceShe is still on life support but stable. They are going to fly her to St. Louis in the morning.
01:19.54CyrannianAh, okay. I have some minutes left if you want to talk about our super-special-evil plans.
01:20.14CatfaceSure
01:43.43Tybusentset
01:45.23CyrannianBye!
01:45.30TybusenBai
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01:47.53AtamolosGoodbye.
01:47.59Atamolos(delayed)
01:59.34Wormybye
02:33.58AtamolosWhy do the three of us always seem to be here at this time?
02:35.25AtamolosTybusen Zilla_Commando
02:35.31AtamolosYou have been summoned.
02:35.40Zilla_Commandoyes?
02:37.02zillafire101~Atamolos
02:39.11zillafire101Are we discussing sometin on another thread?
02:39.42zillafire101well, gotta go guys
02:39.47zillafire101Cya later
02:40.22AtamolosBye.
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06:36.09GhelaeHello.
06:38.32ShalonarHello
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07:04.07Liquid_InkHi.
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07:05.17Liquid_InkI'm back!
07:05.36Liquid_InkWith a vengence!
07:07.27GhelaeHello.
07:13.58Liquid_InkHow are you?
07:15.21GhelaeI'm okay; how about you?
07:27.26Liquid_InkFine.
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07:31.10GhelHello.
07:31.16GhelSpontaneous connection failure.
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07:42.00GhelHello.
07:42.32JepardiHi
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07:52.19GhelHello.
07:53.45ShalonarHi Ink
07:58.48Liquid_InkHello.
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09:01.35ShalonarHello
09:20.21GhelHello.
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09:43.20MonetHello
09:43.25GhelHello.
09:44.15MonetI managed to calculate the Draconis wingspan.
09:44.29MonetWould anone like to guess the tip-to-tip length?
09:45.29GhelNot really. :P But I'm going to guess about three to four metres.
09:45.52GhelLooking at the picture on their page, probably closer to three.
09:46.15MonetTotal span is actually 9.4m. Mainly because wings in Spore are rubbish.
09:46.54MonetEach wing is 4.6m long and I will upload a drawing of an open wing later.
09:47.33Ghel"Wings in Spore are rubbish". Yeah, that explains it.
09:49.51MonetA big wing is nice but now I need to calculate the most important part - surface area.
09:51.58MonetThing is, their wings are liek a bat's so it will have to work by trapping air in the membranes between the fingers. And since calculating irregular surfaces is not my area of expertise I will ahve to get back to you on that.
09:52.57MonetIf I divide the wings up into a dozen small triangles that might work.
09:53.38GhelYes. Or you could designate each wing section as being a curve and integrate it, but triangles are easier.
09:57.18MonetAnd after that I can then calculate the number of grams per cm2 that the wings will be lifting. The smaller the number the more effective the wing is.
09:58.07MonetAt least, I think that's one way to do it. My brother is the animal biologist.
10:00.09GhelIt sounds about right to me.
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10:06.29ACraftyPandaHi
10:07.06MonetHi
10:07.34MonetYou missed me saying how a Draconsi wing can reach 4.6m in span.
10:09.30GhelHello.
10:10.05ACraftyPandaYou're typoing that name a lot Monet
10:10.21MonetIts annoying.
10:10.22ACraftyPandaAnd that span doesn't really surprise me given how big the creatures are.
10:10.41ACraftyPandaJust teach autocorrect how to spell 'Draconis'
10:11.02MonetThe hard part is going to be working out how many grams per cm2 they are lifting.
10:11.30ACraftyPandaIs that really necessary though?
10:12.50MonetI want to make the Draconis feel believeable. It's probably my analytical side of my Asperger's talking.
10:13.06ACraftyPandaNone of us doubt they can fly :D
10:13.31MonetI suppose.
10:14.02ACraftyPandaOk, well I'm gonna make the aliens and tribals for the fic. Talk to you soon
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10:14.21ACraftyPandahttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Spriggs077/New_Fiction_Idea#comm-153187
10:14.30Monethello
10:14.37R17Hi Mon
10:14.43R17and Ghel, and Jep, and Ink
10:14.56GhelHello.
10:16.30MonetIrskaad I feel like you weren't paying attention last night. I showed you the section with Dracia and Leondias, you said 'put it in part three' when it was supposed to be in part 2. I'm not annoyed I just feel like you didn't read it properly.
10:21.01ACraftyPandaMonet: Irskaad ain't here
10:21.47Monet...My bad I red 'and Ink' as 'and Irsk' and now I feel stupid
10:21.55MonetGah!
10:22.45MonetOne day I will conquer these chronic typos, one day...
10:26.13ACraftyPandaGoddamn bad data bug
10:30.57MonetWormy's present has given me an idea for a potential future for the Draconis.
10:32.03ACraftyPandaProblem is none of the so-called 'fixes' are even doable according to my mac
10:34.28MonetPerhaps in rthe future the Draconis, inspired by the potential they can live as the enlightened species they beleive themselves to be, isolate themslves on craftworld-like structures.
10:34.56ACraftyPandaY'know what, I'm gonna try something
10:35.33ACraftyPandaI'm gunna reinstall GA, and not patch it. Who knows, could be a patch bug like some people seem to think
10:36.52MonetThey will still have the Imperium but the worlds they once lived on could eb open to all species. Imperial citizens get total freedom of movement and Draconis still have their ego and empire intact, everybody wins.
10:39.26MonetWell, except for the part where these craftworlds would be off-limits to aliens without authorisation.
10:41.34ACraftyPandaThat really seems like a very radical move for such a conservative race
10:42.50MonetDraconis always believed themselves to be above other species, It would take centuries for the entire species to become stellar nomads though.
10:45.05MonetThis could be the next step in their plans; Showing off that they are so superior that they do not have to cling to stars in order to prosper like everyone else.
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10:48.34Irskaadis waiting for Oluap
10:51.37MonetIrskaad you just missed my super-amazing idea for the Draconis in the future.
10:51.53IrskaadWhat is it?
10:52.50ACraftyPandaGrr, GA is FUBAR
10:52.53GhelHello.
10:53.03IrskaadFUBAR?
10:53.08IrskaadYay Ghel
10:53.15MonetWormy's present has given me an idea for a potential future for the Draconis. Perhaps in the future, inspired by the potential they can live beyond the stars as the enlightened species they believe themselves to be, they eventually isolate themslves on craftworld-like structures. Ruling their imperium from there.
10:53.16ACraftyPandaFucked Up Beyond All Redemption
10:54.01Irskaadokay
10:54.28ACraftyPandaThe random name generator is screwed, which basically makes Space Stage unplayable.
10:56.51ACraftyPandaEven worse, I can't do any of the workarounds put up on the internet.
10:58.02Irskaad:(
10:59.25Liquid_InkI'm confused, that old SSA civil war fiction that never kicked off, is that still canon?
10:59.57GhelI don't think so, no.
11:00.16ACraftyPandaThe file they're telling me to edit, I can't reach on my macbook
11:01.40Monethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZSPE9T16hA&feature=plcp Any ideas who or what Mentracus might be?
11:02.30MonetHe's the head of the Imperium's intelligance agency.
11:02.34Liquid_InkImperios mentioned on the SSA message board that it is.
11:02.56Liquid_InkAnd it's kind of important for my character history.
11:04.32MonetI never heard anything.
11:05.25GhelThe thing is, if a war didn't happen, then it couldn't really have happened.
11:07.28MonetIrskaad: A thought occured, you could theoretically become friends with Oniron Voxis.
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11:08.20CatfaceHi
11:08.33CatfaceI'm just stopping by before I leave for St. Louis.
11:08.35GhelHello.
11:08.36MonetHi
11:08.42IrskaadWith the new Oniron Voxis? YAY
11:09.01MonetApart from being a servant of Volkarus, he's an alright guy.
11:10.25ACraftyPandaWell, let's hope the peoples of the Sporum can figure out what to do.
11:10.59Irskaadmeets Voxis
11:11.04IrskaadMe - Hey!
11:11.44CatfaceMonet: We need information...information...information about the Vex.
11:12.08MonetOniron - Oh, hello.
11:12.31IrskaadMe - How's everything with Volkarus? ^^
11:12.47MonetCatface: They have a reputation for being butt-kissers.
11:12.58CatfaceFun
11:13.13MonetOniron - I guess it's okay, he's rather creepy though.
11:13.56CatfaceI still want stories about them for some reason. Dunno why.
11:13.59IrskaadMe - Cool, so... I wonder, will he win? I hope he does.
11:14.44ACraftyPandaCatface: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Spriggs077/New_Fiction_Idea#comm-153187
11:15.05MonetOniron - Who goes into battle wondering of you will win it?
11:15.15Catfacetl;dr
11:15.29MonetOniron - You eithwr win or lose, that is the game.
11:15.41ACraftyPandakicks Catface into the Asgord Pits.
11:15.54R17_DoWGoddamn Eldar Howling Banshee screams are painfully irritating in Soulstorm.
11:15.55Catfacekills himself
11:16.02IrskaadMe - GO KHAXVIS!
11:16.21ACraftyPandaY u dum Catface?
11:16.43MonetOniron - You really like them don't you?
11:16.46R17_DoWThank goodness they made that sound effect easier to put up with in Retribution.
11:17.22IrskaadMe - Yeah!
11:18.24MonetOniron - Ultanos are backstabbers and Volkarus is void-damned creepy. If he puts one of the other houses in charge I'm good with that.
11:18.59MonetOniron - On second thoughts... I'm not sure who is better.
11:20.03IrskaadMe - Khaxvis!
11:21.11MonetOniron - On what grounds? I saw them do some rather twisted stuff back in the day, do you really think these Khaxvis are any better?
11:21.58IrskaadMe - Yeah, they're way more awesome and are more grimdark!
11:22.14ACraftyPandaMe - He's what's known in human culture as a 'fanboy.' There's no reasoning with him. Just slap him for us.
11:23.33MonetOniron - *loks at Irsk* Wait-what? How can 'more grimdark' be better? I may be a killer and a champion but I still have my code of conduct. Are you saying Khaxvis don't approve?
11:24.28IrskaadMe - But Khaxvis are so awesome!
11:24.42ACraftyPandaFound a partial workaround: If I update to 1.03 then I won't have the BAD_DATA bug. I'll happily trade no asymmetry for being able to play
11:25.32MonetOniron - I don't know about you but I -live- in the Imperium. If Khaxvis are going to make it a hellhole then I don't approve.
11:25.58IrskaadMe - What, you're lucky to be Khaxvis!
11:26.47MonetOniron - On what grounds?
11:27.14ACraftyPandaMe - He's a fanboy. You're not gonna get anything decent out of him.
11:27.48IrskaadMe - Khaxvis are more badass, they have the greatest characters, and are way better than the Imperium!
11:28.23MonetOniron - Drakon's arse, are you being serious?
11:28.44ACraftyPandaMe - Fanboy
11:28.46IrskaadMe - Yes!
11:30.31MonetOniron - I don't sign up to armies because they are 'cool'. In the old days house Khaxvis recruited me for my reputation. They offered em a way out of the pits ind into the navy. A few years later I find they had been keeping royals prisoner. Ultanos may have backstabbed me but at least they had noble intentions for the Imperium.
11:31.40IrskaadMe - Pffft, Ultanos suck, that old Uriel's so boring I wish Volkarus could just kill him.
11:34.39MonetOniron - From what I have read he's more manly than Volkarus - Distinction in the military, war-hero status, founding a galactic alliance. I almost wish he wasn't Ultanos blood; but that could have been the secret to his success.
11:35.09IrskaadMe - Pfffft! Volkarus FTW!
11:36.20MonetOniron - If I cannot gain an intelligent conversation with you then I am off, I really hope all humans are not as whiny as you.
11:37.06IrskaadMe - C'mon, why? I like Volkarus, you like him too, we have plenty in common!
11:37.59ACraftyPandaMe - Most of them aren't as whiny or fanboyish as he is.
11:38.10MonetOniron - *walks away* I serve him to get at Ultanos, I have no idea why he's so void-damned glorious in your eyes!
11:38.26ACraftyPandaMe - He dum, that's why
11:38.30IrskaadMe - :_( *Walks to where Vedrix is*
11:39.30Monet(No thank you because she will only do what has been done to you 1000 times before)
11:42.29MonetRP is just not fun when it gets repetetive.
11:42.44R17_DoWIrsk logic conflicts with alien logic too easily
11:42.52R17_DoWI think?
11:42.56R17_DoWMost of the time maybe
11:43.12R17_DoWI am yet to see an alien who could get along with Irsk
11:44.39MonetThe problem is that he tries to make freinds with people who either hate him for existing (Moxix, all Xhodocto) are just bastards or both. Nne of them are truly friend material.
11:45.20ACraftyPandaIrskaad and logic? Those two words should not be mentioned in the same sentence without a 'has no' in between them
11:45.28GhelHello
11:45.30Ghel.
11:45.39Monethello.
11:47.07MonetAlso under his logic any mercenary working for the bad guy is awesome. The problem with that is that 90% of the time the mercenary is only working for the bad guy to get paid and a smaller proportion could not care less what their plans are
11:47.44GhelWhat would he think if said mercenary started working for the good guys?
11:47.51MonetEither way, 90% of the mercenaris working for the bad guys have no strong opinion of their employer.
11:48.10IrskaadGhel: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
11:48.21MonetGhel: Look at Tyraz abandoning bieng a Xhodocto worshipper.
11:49.49GhelAh.
11:50.23MonetGues what Irsk: During the middle ages mercenaries would be hired to defend cities from attack. When the defender's money used to pay them ran out the mercs could easily switch to the invading armies for the right sum and -sack the very city they were defending-.
11:51.23GhelNobody should be surprised at that. That's exactly that mercenaries are, by definition. They're loyal to employment, not ideology.
11:52.12MonetAnd Irskaad's problem is that he has fanboyism over ideology.
11:53.09MonetThat general bloke in Avatar was a mercenary, he was only on Pandora to get paid.
11:54.26GhelEvery human antagonist in Avatar was only that way because of money.
11:54.40MonetExactly.
11:56.18MonetAll because of an alien rock that was worth an absurd amount of money. They cleared forests, dug strip mines, killed natives and burned an ancient tree just to fatten their own wallets.
11:56.37Irskaad^^
11:56.50MonetHow is that good?
11:57.08IrskaadIt gets us colonies
11:57.10MonetActually, nvm
11:57.24Irskaadgoes back to listening to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LXDQlv0RxI
11:57.27MonetBut that's not why they were there.
11:57.52GhelIt didn't get humans any colonies, because humans didn't want to colonise Pandora.
11:58.08GhelMainly because Pandora was a death world with an atmosphere toxic to humans.
11:58.32GhelAnd also, I imagine most humans wouldn't want an alien ecosystem to be destroyed.
11:58.37IrskaadThe unobtanium could be used for greater human advancement
11:58.50MonetAgain, RDA didnt' care about that.
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11:59.32GhelHello.
11:59.56GhelAnd they were already able to mine unobtanium without destroying the Hometree. They just wanted to be able to sell more of it.
12:00.23HalopediamanHowdy.
12:00.29MonetHi
12:00.47MonetI'm sure there were other deposits of Unobtanium dotted around the planet but no to save costs they wanted the closest and largest to ground zero.
12:00.55HalopediamanUnobtanium sounds like it would be hard to obtain.
12:01.06MonetWe're talking about Avatar.
12:01.11HalopediamanI know. :P
12:01.20MonetSorry.
12:01.26HalopediamanAll's well.
12:01.54GhelAnd you don't need *that* much of a room-temperature superconductor to increase unobtanium mining efficiency without having to kill people to get at it. RDA just wanted their money quickly.
12:02.24GhelUnobtanium being a room-temperature superconductor, in case anyone here didn't know that.
12:02.40GhelActually, I don't even know if it was that important.
12:02.42MonetSo -that's- why its so valuable?
12:03.13GhelYes. Room-temperaure superconductors help you cut down on refrigeration costs that would otherwise be incurred with normal superconductors.
12:03.35GhelUnobtanium being a room-temperature superconductor is why it's known to float sometimes.
12:04.24MonetThere is another thing though: It is unlikely this mineral is unique to Pandora so humans could have mined it in our own solar system.
12:05.01GhelIt depends. It could be artificially-made by aliens and put on Pandora for... whatever reason.
12:05.03HalopediamanI thought the point was that it was not found in the Sol System.
12:06.04GhelAnyway. Irskaad, as usual, is wrong. End of discussion? :P
12:06.09MonetThere are some pretty grim good guys out there, like Batman or Dity Harry.
12:06.17MonetDirty, rather.
12:06.34HalopediamanMaybe it was put there by the same race that made Humanity in Prometheus. Wouldn't that be a two billion dollar tie-in sequel?
12:08.13MonetI haven't whatched Promethius yet.
12:08.58HalopediamanOh, sorry for the spoiler then. If it makes you feel better, I haven't seen it either.
12:09.05MonetAnd I am getting mixed signals about whether or not it is good.
12:09.21HalopediamanInstead I saved ten bucks and read the Wikipedia article.
12:09.29Monetlol
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12:12.00Irskaadeek an r17
12:12.24Reebutt17What did I miss? (Excluding things that Panda mentioned)
12:13.54MonetJust Irskaad being lectured on the flaws of his bad-guy fanboyism again.
12:14.29IrskaadHey I'm an Eurovision fanboy ^^
12:14.38IrskaadEUPHOOOOOOOOOOOORIA
12:14.49MonetYou are a fanboy of evil people.
12:14.58IrskaadThat too, fictional evil peeps
12:15.03Reebutt17I see
12:15.21Liquid_InkCan an empire request SSA support in a war?
12:15.39MonetToday he found out why mercenaeries should not be loved because of who they work for and why RDA from Avatar is so evil.
12:16.17IrskaadRDA is still better than those freaking cats
12:16.20Reebutt17I am indifferent to that Avatar movie.
12:16.52MonetBoba Fett did not become Immensely popular because he was a thug for Jabba the Hutt.
12:17.07GhelLiquid_Ink: I suppose they could, yes... why?
12:17.17Liquid_InkFiction plans.
12:17.19IrskaadMonet: I don't know who are those
12:17.33HalopediamanOh lord Boba Fett.
12:17.38Liquid_InkA logical way to finish a war.
12:17.41MonetIrskaad: Because you don't like Star Wars.
12:17.45IrskaadNope
12:17.46Liquid_InkMy previous idea was too silly.
12:18.00GhelThat's quite vague. The thing is, just because an empire requests SSA help, doesn't mean that the SSA will actually help them.
12:18.10HalopediamanAnd just like that, I lost all the respect I ever had for Irskaad. Not that I had any because I don't think we've ever talked before.
12:18.24IrskaadMeh.
12:18.33IrskaadWhere's Oluap
12:18.39MonetHe hates Star Wars because thr Force is messed up in his opinion.
12:18.42HalopediamanI'm sure your hopes and dreams are crushed.
12:19.02IrskaadOne hope and dream I had was Loreen winning Eurovision.
12:19.47Liquid_InkWhat if the request is from one of its own members?
12:20.00Reebutt17omgIloveyouIrskaadplssignmyautographdesudesudesu
12:20.02MonetSo the big bad money-grabbing corporation is better than the native American expies who were only trying to live theie lives and defend their homes? I won't argue with that because I cannot change your mind.
12:20.13Reebutt17pardon me for being random... *clears throat*
12:20.14GhelThen they're likely to support them. Which member is this?
12:20.18Irskaadsigns R17's autograph
12:21.09HalopediamanMonet, to be fair, the natives were in the way and could have moved elsewhere for the corporation that had a far better reason to use that land.
12:21.11Liquid_InkThe DSB.
12:21.26MonetIrskaad: I do wonder if you are evil yourself and just don't know it.
12:21.35GhelIrskaad: Would it help if I told you that, if giving the Na'vi free healthcare and giving them foot massages would have got the RDA their unobtanium, they'd have done that instead?
12:22.02MonetFree healthcare? Americans? I have no comment.
12:22.03GhelLiquid_Ink: It's likely that some help would have been sent, yes. Is this all of the information you can give me?
12:22.04IrskaadDunno and Dunno
12:22.23IrskaadI've changed a lot since 2005, ask Impy about it
12:22.29MonetI don't wantto offend anyone.
12:22.47Liquid_InkYes.
12:22.49GhelIrskaad: Well, what would you have thought if that happened in Avatar? I know it wouldn't, because it wouldn't have involved any explosions that way, but that's not important.
12:22.57GhelLiquid_Ink: Okay. Go ahead and do it, then.
12:23.12IrskaadI wouldn't have seen the movie on DVD if that happened ;D
12:23.58HalopediamanBut Ghel, they were given free healthcare. :P
12:24.16GhelThey were, but it didn'tr work. :P
12:24.22HalopediamanRight
12:24.42GhelMaybe they tried giving them foot massages as well, but that didn't work either.
12:24.44GhelIrskaad: So? What would you have thought of the RDA then?
12:25.07Irskaadbrb
12:25.16MonetTroll moment.
12:25.36HalopediamanThe unobtanium must flow.
12:26.01ACraftyPandaLet there be phlebotinium!
12:26.35Liquid_InkI'm not doing it right away.
12:26.41GhelMaybe I'll ask Irsk what he'd think of the Cult of the Deathmarch if their way of pleasing the Xhodocto was giving hugs to puppies.
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12:27.13HalopediamanWhat is this, I don't even.
12:27.16Reebutt17I think I'm actually going to name a substance in Xarikverse "phlebotinium" cause I be lazy.
12:27.20Reebutt17and hi Impeh
12:28.58MonetI'll bbl.
12:29.09HalopediamanI think I'm going to mirror Reebutt17, but for my book. I too am lazy (and out of names).
12:29.44GhelOh, there are plenty of names.. Phlebotinium, unobtanium...
12:30.14IrskaadXhoddies are just way too awesome and I'd ask for a Xhodocto hug
12:31.07HalopediamanYou're right Ghel, that list that was already completely covered was overwhelming. :P
12:31.47GhelIrskaad: But what would you think of the Cult itself? And you didn't tell me what you'd think of the RDA.
12:32.08GhelHalopediaman: Don't forget handwavium!
12:34.21HalopediamanWell actually. Anyone want to name a substance that emits a field that I am not sure I totally understand that would neutralize time dilation in FTL travel?
12:34.32IrskaadLunch bai
12:34.46GhelWhy do you even need time dilation in FTL travel?
12:34.49HalopediamanI thought that was an answer for a second Irskaad. :P
12:35.00HalopediamanEnjoy your lunch.
12:35.44GhelWhat sort of FTL are you using?
12:36.31ShalonarHi
12:36.39GhelHello.
12:36.40Reebutt17I need help envisioning what Human Tech in the year 10,000 might be cause that's the setting for my Xarikverse
12:37.00Reebutt17although they might have at least stagnated a bit.
12:37.33HalopediamanGood questions. Give me a moment as I push through lack of sleep to answer your questions.
12:39.03GhelIt's not really possible to predict that far ahead. Bear in mind how rapid technological advances have been in the past few hundred years. 10,000 years in the future, they might be able to do anything imaginable that doesn't defy the laws of physics.
12:39.55ACraftyPandaReebutt17: Phlebotinium is any non-existent stuff used to make a story work. It's a Tvtrope.
12:39.58Reebutt17they still have to be weaker/less advanced in comparison to Xarik-Radux.
12:40.03GhelIf there's no FTL in the Xarikverse, that could slow down technological development somewhat, but 10,000 years is still a long time.
12:40.27GhelSo, basically, if you want to set it that far in the future, just make up anything. They could be as advanced as you want them to be.
12:40.28Reebutt17Each race has their own FTL in Xarikverse methinks.
12:40.38Reebutt17AnObviousPanda
12:41.30Reebutt17The presence of a substance called "Phlebotinium" could maybe make that count as a trope that is "taken literally" or whatever.
12:41.59GhelIt could have been named that way as an in-joke, like unobtanium in the Avatar universe presumably was.
12:42.08HalopediamanGhel, does "hyperspace" answer your second question?
12:42.15GhelYes.
12:42.34HalopediamanGood, then I'm not as bad at science fiction as I feared. :P
12:43.28HalopediamanOh wait, now that I think about it, I may have used Warp Drives.
12:44.04GhelWith time dilation, it happens when you're travelling locally relativistically. Depending on how fast hyperspace travel is, ships going through there may never need to travel relativistically for long enough to make much of a difference, or hyperspace may even work in such a way that time dilation doesn't happen at all.
12:44.29GhelWith warp drives, you're not even truly accelerating, since it's spacetime that's moving, so there's no time dilation anyway.
12:44.34HalopediamanBrilliant.
12:44.56HalopediamanNow I need a new subplot, because time dilation isn't a problem with Warp Drives either.
12:45.17GhelWhat was your subplot before?
12:45.32HalopediamanWho wants to assist me with a subplot to make a material that someone can name? :P
12:45.51Reebutt17In Xarikverse, Xarikspace may have nommed Hyperspace. Forcing everyone ('cept for Xarik-Radux who are "Xarikspatial" beings) to use other ways... like folding space?
12:45.54GhelAh, the subplot involved that material.
12:46.26GhelSpacetime engineering for faster-than-light travel is possible if negative mass-energy is.
12:48.47HalopediamanI see? I'm not that well versed in the science of science fiction.
12:50.07HalopediamanI made the whole thing with politics and war in mind and just recently started to travel into the means of my ends. (FTL, how shields and weapons work, ect).
12:50.25GhelThis is real-world science now. Closed timelike curves and superluminal travel (since, without some hypothetical workaround, faster-than-light travel allows time travel to the past to occur) are impossible in any finite volume of space without negative energy density.
12:50.57GhelSo, obviously, you could have negative energy density.
12:51.25GhelOr, you could take "volume" to be the key word, plug in some extra dimensions and fold three-dimensional space around them, and then you have hyperspace.
12:52.19ShalonarI'll be back
12:54.11HalopediamanDoes hyperspace take time to move in?
12:54.25HalopediamanOr rather, would.
12:54.30GhelI assume it would do, yes.
12:55.02HalopediamanCare to venture a guess of the scale? Seconds/hours/days/weeks ect.
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12:55.31ImperiosHi people
12:55.36IrskaadImpyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
12:55.38Reebutt17Imperiold Shalzenegger.
12:55.43HalopediamanOr would it vary depending on the power of the drive/distance?
12:55.45Reebutt17Cause you said "I'll be back"
12:56.02ImperiosI'm back.
12:56.07Reebutt17Indeed
12:56.13GhelHello.
12:56.27Reebutt17I was expecting you to drive a car crashing into this house and walk out of it unharmed but armed with an uzi and a shotgun.
12:56.28GhelIt depends on whatever fictional features you decide that hyperspace has.
12:56.50Reebutt17IMPEH IS THE TERMINATOR
12:57.10GhelIt would presumably take a greater time with a greater distance. Most fictional universes have different drives having different speeds.
12:58.10HalopediamanExcellent, then I can stick with hyperspace.
12:58.10GhelAnd maybe a hyperspace jump is slowed down as much as necessary if there's any chance of it resulting in a causality violation.
12:58.34GhelBut we haven't even decided on how causality violations are prevented in SporeWikiverse hyperspace yet.
12:58.50IrskaadYAY KO IS COMING
12:59.31Reebutt17You looked up your steam
12:59.33Reebutt17I presume
12:59.44HalopediamanI'll probably just not acknowledge causality tbh.
13:00.08GhelNot acknowledge causality, or ignore FTL travel resulting in time travel?
13:00.24Ghelignore that FTL travel could result in*
13:00.33HalopediamanHmph.
13:00.52HalopediamanCould a particle emit a field that would neutralize time travel? :P
13:00.58GhelNo. :D
13:01.04Reebutt17Imho Time Travel sux
13:01.11HalopediamanBah.
13:01.17GhelJust have hyperspace slow you down if there's any chance of you violating causality.
13:01.18Reebutt17for reasons that I don't have time right now to explain or have the difficulty to do so.
13:01.25GhelIt'll only happen on rare occasions anyway.
13:02.08HalopediamanThen it won't happen on occasions where it isn't needed.
13:02.28GhelThat's exactly how it would be.
13:03.05HalopediamanHeh.
13:03.18GhelAnd, for the record, two objects have to be moving away from each other for FTL jumps between them to result in backwards time travel.
13:03.31GhelAnd even then, you have to go between them fast enough.
13:04.27ImperiosOh, people
13:04.36ImperiosI consider changing an avatar
13:04.44ImperiosWhat creature should I put there?
13:04.46ImperiosAny ieas?
13:04.49Imperios*ideas
13:04.59HalopediamanAlright, so, now I need a completely new concept for something that is dependent on a material or objects.
13:05.28HalopediamanGhel how long are you going to be around and how valuable is your time?
13:05.48GhelAs long as I like and not valuable whatsoever.
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13:06.03GhelHello.
13:06.07GhelImperios: Fyvrtha.
13:06.12ImperiosGhel: Yeah
13:06.14ImperiosWait a second
13:06.19ImperiosGhelae having opinions
13:06.34Imperioswhips OluapPlayer
13:06.38GhelActually, that reminds me. I was going to change my avatar as well. Make it less pink.
13:06.40ImperiosBACK TO OLUAPWORKA
13:06.50OluapPlayer~punch Imperios
13:06.50infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Imperios right on the nose
13:06.56OluapPlayerI'm on holiday so shup
13:07.00ImperiosDur
13:07.04IrskaadYAY KO
13:07.05ImperiosI am on a loooooooong holiday
13:08.24HalopediamanHeh, very well. Mind if I query?
13:12.40GhelOkay, I've changed my avatar now. I've gone from being a supermassive black hole to an entire galaxy.
13:13.03HalopediamanNext: The universe.
13:13.19HalopediamanOr would it be a local group?
13:13.31GhelNah, I'll go for the whole universe. :P
13:13.39HalopediamanLike a boss.
13:13.43GhelSo, what do you want to use my time for?
13:14.48HalopediamanI was wondering if I could query you to throw the other idea I had for something that's important to the story, since the particle is out of the question now.
13:14.52OluapPlayerOh well, ME time
13:15.07HalopediamanMe time is the best time. :V
13:17.56GhelThrow whatever ideas you like.
13:18.43HalopediamanWould you rather here or in private?
13:18.43GhelErm... throw whatever ideas *at me* you like.
13:18.53GhelI don't mind.
13:19.23HalopediamanVery well. To a PM!
13:29.23Reebutt17test
13:29.44Reebutt17beeps Irskaad
13:29.45Reebutt17test
13:31.24Reebutt17Irskaad grab my test
13:31.35Imperioshttp://pastie.org/4092330 Dammit I should wait for OP
13:35.54Reebutt17Radukh the Contemptor - Everyone overestimates such weak creatures... they overestimate them just far too greatly.
13:39.36Reebutt17btw Impeh
13:39.56Reebutt17can you (or anyone make) Miniportraits for the current Radux?
13:43.00ImperiosKay
13:43.35Reebutt17both Rubric and Shock Troop if you can
13:45.09Imperioshttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f3/MiniBurd.png
13:45.29Reebutt17Okay then
13:45.36Reebutt17thx
13:46.43Imperioshttp://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/bf/MiniAngryBurd.png
13:47.45MonetIt seems not a week goes by when someone creates a page in the main namespace that should not be there.
13:49.10ImperiosWait a sec
13:49.14ImperiosHi Monet
13:49.23MonetHi
13:49.28ImperiosLook http://pastie.org/4092330
13:50.24MonetI saw.
13:54.55ImperiosI know how to defeat Xarik-Radux, Reebutt17.
13:57.13ImperiosBasically they want chaos, but they all have the same goal and organisation, meaning that they are perfectly ORDERLY.
13:57.41ImperiosAnd when they will plunge the world into ultimate chaos, nothing will change, the chaos will stay forever. Which will be perfectly orderly.
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13:58.30Wormylol http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Operation_Marines/How_would_YOUR_empire_fair_against_the_Daleks%3F#comm-153230
13:58.32MonetHello
13:58.34ImperiosHi
13:59.08Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:TheImperios Changed my avatar
13:59.36Reebutt17Imperios: That's what they want
13:59.44ImperiosParadox
13:59.45ImperiosHur
13:59.47Reebutt17The endless cycle of violence
13:59.57GhelHello.
14:00.01WormyHe tried to downrate the Xeelee but vdoesn't even know much abouit them.
14:00.03Reebutt17so it would just strengthen their resolve
14:00.18Reebutt17the thing is...
14:00.37MonetSo basically the Radux are supporting the cycle of birth and death?
14:00.42Impy_DoWMonet: I consider rerolling into an Inquisitor when I shall return to TOR. Good idea or dum idea?
14:00.45Reebutt17Xarikspace, as an "entity" is eternally hungry and he requires the total chaos of the universes as it's food
14:00.47Impy_DoWInto an assassin.
14:00.53Reebutt17Monet: Yeah, something like that.
14:01.05Reebutt17oops, Xarikspace is an "it" not a "he"
14:01.06MonetImperios: Go ahead since I am a sorceror.
14:01.09IrskaadMy team won a Dota 2 Match - I was Night Stalker
14:01.11MonetIf you want ofc.
14:04.59Impy_DoWI am just thinking will Sorcerers and Assassins compete for gear, Mon
14:05.05Impy_DoWIf they will, I won't do it
14:05.10Impy_DoWIOf they won't, I most likely will
14:06.00MonetSorcerors and assassins have different critical stats so I don't think therre would be much competition.
14:06.11Impy_DoWAh, okay
14:06.15Impy_DoWNow, on her/his name.
14:06.27Impy_DoWDiscordia? Asgordiel? Lumivael? Divin-Ra XD
14:07.10Impy_DoWOk
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14:10.11GhelHello.
14:10.19CyrannianBlarg!
14:10.35Ghel~give Cyrannian a cookie
14:10.35infobotACTION gives Cyrannian a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up.
14:10.47MonetHello.
14:10.56Cyrannianeats the cook
14:11.06GhelAww. Poor infobot.
14:11.10Cyrannianalso eats the cookie
14:12.26MonetIt is good to see the Empire in action in Tzhrhokia, even if they did get their arses handed to them.
14:13.23CyrannianAye. It's always polite to give the new threat the first victory/
14:13.39MonetI did the same with the TIAF.
14:13.53MonetOnly they had 3 victories in a row.
14:14.20Reebutt17Radux refuse to adhere to that, unless they're the "new threat" in this or that story... how rude, mostly...
14:14.47GhelI don't think he meant that the CyraEmp were deliberately losing the battle.
14:15.16MonetI can tell the Tyranny's crew were not expecting the Iteok of all creatures to be so deadly.
14:15.23Reebutt17TZHRKHOIA
14:16.21MonetAs shown in part 2 the Imperium heard Ko'Han's call to arms and decided to bring even more ships into the Kraw Galaxy.
14:16.35MonetJust ot keep themselves safe.
14:17.42MonetThey brought in one of the largest ship classes available to them.
14:18.12Reebutt17WARLORD
14:19.46Monethttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120610155747/spore/images/e/e4/Worldravager_class.png there's also these terrors: The Worldravager class.
14:20.20Reebutt17yesh
14:20.23Reebutt17Babby Warlords
14:20.55MonetComplete with a smaller version of the Warlord's main gun.
14:21.01Reebutt17Funny how they seem to have the "meaner" name compared to their bigger daddies.
14:21.32MonetYou are probably wondering abotu the ship names.
14:21.42Reebutt17But anyways... that is what we get when a Mommy and a Daddy Warlord love each other so much...?
14:21.56Reebutt17and yeah, go on about the ship names.
14:22.06MonetAlso the worldravager is a lot more common than a warlord.
14:22.17Reebutt17I see
14:22.40Reebutt17so a single mommeh Warlord can haz a good number of babby Worldravagers.
14:22.49MonetBasically when christening a new ship class they take combine words as a way of describing the ship.
14:23.12Reebutt17I see.
14:23.14MonetWorld-ravager, war-lord, battle-master, glory-seeker.
14:28.48Moneti wonder what kind of military buildup the Empire has in the Kraw Galaxy. Due to Operation: Freedom, the Draconis-Kraw cold war and the NewIG invasion the Imperium has deployed several battlefleets' worth within the galaxy.
14:30.20MonetI think I noted a single battlefleet (dispersed across the galaxy) has something between 50-100,000 distinct ships and several million strike craft.
14:32.18MonetWhich might explain why they have only hundreds of fleets for an empire as dense as theirs.
14:33.12Reebutt17hueg
14:34.16MonetSo is the logistics division.
14:35.24Reebutt17What about 'em?
14:35.50MonetYou would need a lot of personnel to seek a military that size running efficiently.
14:36.11Reebutt17Hueg hueg hueg
14:36.32MonetThe Imperium has 7.2 qudrillian inhabitants, of course its all hueg.
14:37.02Reebutt17Indeed
14:40.00MonetI think they have one of the larger militaries in the Gigaquadrant.
14:43.14GhelI don't know if most other users have even quantified their fleet sizes.
14:43.40MonetI know Tybusen has.
14:46.48MonetAnyway, I'll be back later.
14:47.00Reebutt17I gtg sleep bye
14:47.33ACraftyPandaHai
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15:02.19GhelHello.
15:02.52Wormyhi
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15:05.24GhelHello.
15:05.34Technobliteratorhii guys
15:05.44Technobliteratoroluap's here?!
15:06.03Technobliteratordum i not kno dis
15:06.53Impy_DoWBack
15:07.03Technobliteratorhi imp
15:07.15Technobliteratorwhat can we do next for the cards revealed?
15:07.17ImperiosSmacked some bronies in DoW
15:07.21ImperiosGot smacked by someone else
15:07.42ImperiosBTW Irskaad
15:07.44ImperiosYou dere?
15:07.45Technobliterator...
15:07.51Technobliteratori asked you a question
15:08.05ImperiosTechnobliterator: My connection is slow
15:08.19Technobliteratoryeah but you had fricken half a minute to answer
15:08.19ImperiosIt is broken
15:08.26ImperiosI only recieved your question now
15:08.29ImperiosSeconds ago
15:08.40ImperiosOh
15:08.42ImperiosLemme think
15:09.51ImperiosBr'klakkon's further schemes
15:10.27Imperios[[]]
15:10.27morgothBotPyImperios meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
15:11.19Technobliteratorhh
15:11.22Technobliterator*ohh
15:11.25Technobliteratorthat could work yeah
15:11.31Technobliteratori imagine jsut them killing
15:11.44Technobliteratoreach other over looking for the artifacts and fighting the inheritance
15:11.52ImperiosKeep in mind that I have a slow connection, right?
15:11.57ImperiosI did tell you before.
15:12.46Technobliteratorok ok fine
15:15.19GhelIn case anyone sees my most recent comment on the time travel blog and thinks it's too complicated, all you need to know is that it's saying "if we go for an option in which hyperspace isn't intelligently controlling travel times, how do we make sure that time travel happens when we want it to?"
15:15.50Technobliteratorperfect answer
15:16.22Technobliteratori say just stck to 5D time travel...:p
15:16.27GhelHyperspace *is* extradimensional.
15:17.23Technobliteratori know
15:17.36Ghel"Holospace" would allow you to edit time as though the past had been changed, but that's not quite the same.
15:19.11Technobliteratorwell i dunno
15:19.13Technobliteratortime vortex
15:19.17Technobliterator:L
15:19.38GhelSo another hyperspace? :P
15:19.48GhelWell, it could work in some way, I suppose.
15:20.07Technobliteratoris that what the time vortex is?
15:20.19GhelWell, it's extradimensional.
15:22.18Technobliteratorwell i dunno
15:22.22Technobliteratori say, spacetime rifts
15:22.37ImperiosTechnobliterator: http://pastie.org/4092330
15:22.46Technobliteratorthat occasionally ftl travel leads to...very occasionally
15:22.50Technobliteratorokaii imp i'll check it
15:23.32TechnobliteratorImperios: wtf?:L
15:25.35ImperiosIt's Asgord warning you
15:28.03WormyShit...  I didn't know the estimate yield of Apophis asteriod is between 800 and 510 megatonnes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis
15:28.36TechnobliteratorGhel: what do you think of my idea?
15:29.07GhelA Time Vortex is probably the best idea.
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15:29.12LotGHello people.
15:29.14GhelHello.
15:29.17ImperiosHi LotG
15:29.17ImperiosAsdruabel
15:29.20Imperioswait a seco
15:29.26Technobliteratorhi lotg
15:29.26Imperioshttp://pastie.org/4092330 Check dis
15:29.26LotGSchool is finally over
15:29.43TechnobliteratorGhel: could it have anything to do with the vyro'narza this vortex then?
15:30.14LotGI now have to wait three months for college
15:30.23GhelI don't know. I'm sure Gyronic might have a connection to it in order to aid its time-manipulating abilities.
15:30.40WormyWow LotG
15:30.53ImperiosI have to wait two more years
15:30.57ImperiosAnd we are of the same age
15:30.57WormyWhat dp you plan on doing in college?
15:31.09LotGICT course
15:31.25LotGI always wanted to work with computer
15:31.28LotGcomputers*
15:31.33Technobliteratori have to wait a year
15:31.35WormyMy 2nd year at college is alost over, but it feels more sad, because college > school generally
15:31.39ImperiosLotG: I assume colleges in England are likes PTUs?
15:31.45ImperiosIn Russia
15:31.46LotGPTU?
15:31.59TechnobliteratorGhel: that's it? coul it no also be tied to the 5th dimension and stuff
15:32.20ImperiosIn Russia, you can end school at 8th or 9th grade and join a PTU, it is a lower grade education facility, lower than an university
15:32.33Wormyyeah, pretty much
15:32.37ImperiosOr you can end school at 11th grade and join an university, which is better
15:33.05GhelA dimension is just a direction. By sheer virtue of not being one of the three dimensions of space or one of time, the existence of both the time vortex and realspace would necessitate a fifth dimension.
15:33.18Ghelof not being along*
15:33.46WormyYou get a choice of going to college or not, its the start of higher education.  You are treated more like an adult (although many people in my college do not act adult), uniform isn't mandatory etc.
15:33.56Technobliteratoruh okaii...well no so mch the 5th dimension more the taldar realm
15:33.59TechnobliteratorSequencium
15:34.15GhelMaybe.
15:34.33GhelOf course, we've only just come up with the "time vortex" idea, let alone thought of all of its features and made it canon.
15:34.37GhelThere may still be other options yet.
15:34.52Irskaad"Mandatory uniforms"   Portugal - >wat
15:34.59Technobliteratorwhy doesnn't my spacetime rift idea work>
15:35.00Technobliterator?
15:35.04WormyThe Holographic principle is incorprated into SporeWiki's fith dimension
15:35.23WormyIs that still okay?
15:35.28Technobliteratoryeahh
15:36.17GhelThe "spacetime rift" would have to have been around since the beginning of the universe, i.e. it can't be made by a time machine, for the reasons I mentioned in the introduction of my time travel blog.
15:36.40GhelSo it's possible, but not the sort of time-travel-on-demand that we're looking for.
15:36.56Technobliteratori thought the idea of it was that it was unintentional...?
15:38.20GhelThe Theians and Tahar Collective all did time travel at will.
15:38.30GhelThe issue is, making sure that it doesn't happen all of the time.
15:39.04Technobliteratorohh okaii...
15:39.12Technobliteratorgyronic?:p
15:39.51Ghel[insert answers to "i say just stck to 5D time travel...:p" here]
15:39.52Ghel:P
15:40.00WormyWhy does "The planet is home to millions of species, including humans.[23] " on here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth need a citation?
15:40.24Technobliteratordum
15:40.37GhelIt's a matter of principle. Where is the boundary between an obvious fact that doesn't need a citation, and a slightly less obvious fact that does?
15:41.19Technobliteratormaybe...a harnessable spacetime rift that accesses some layer of hyperspace which is a 'time vortex'
15:41.30Technobliteratorthat is tied to& monitored by Sequencium
15:41.42Technobliteratormaybe it's close to/is the 5th dimension
15:41.49Technobliteratorand is this all going on the time page?
15:41.58GhelYou'd go along the fifth dimension to access it.
15:42.11GhelAnd yes, everything about time travel would go on the time page when it's made canon.
15:42.18Technobliteratorokaii
15:42.22Technobliteratorso is my idea good?
15:42.37GhelAs for Sequencium, yes; Gyronic, and by extension Sequencium, would be connected to it.
15:43.15Technobliteratoryou haven't fully answered my question:L
15:43.28GhelAs for "harnessable spacetime rift", there's no point in using such vague terminology. It's presumably something similar to entering hyperspace.
15:43.38GhelWell, the idea is the best one that's been suggested so far.
15:43.46GhelThen again, it's the only one that's been suggested so far. :P
15:44.12Technobliteratorharnessable spacetime rift, as in, it can be created using gravitaty tech
15:44.48Technobliteratorbasically some spacetime technology that can create the rift
15:45.00Technobliteratorit would be fragile as hell, but plausible
15:45.12GhelSo it's like a portal into hyperspace, but into the time vortex instead?
15:45.39TechnobliteratorEssentially, yes, remembering that the time vortex is a part of hyperspace
15:45.50TechnobliteratorPerhaps we could name some parts of hyperspace...?
15:46.15Technobliteratorie the time vortex, extra layers like the Borealis Grid, whatever is used for FTL travel, et
15:46.48GhelI don't know how much "parts" of hyperspace they would be. I imagine the time vortex would be something different, but still extradimensional.
15:47.00Technobliteratorlayers of hypersace i mean
15:47.14GhelNo, I'm not thinking that either.
15:47.24Technobliteratorwhy not?
15:47.36TechnobliteratorIt makes sense that they're the same thing
15:47.45Technobliteratorthen we only need to make one page for both:p
15:47.49GhelWhat I mean is, we'd have regular, causality-maintaining "subspace" which includes things like the Grid, then we'd have a seperate causality-violating "time vortex", and the two of them together are both "hyperspace".
15:48.08Technobliteratorand what about FTL?
15:48.11Technobliteratorbut yeah that could work
15:49.45GhelFTL would be in the causality-preserving region.
15:50.04GhelIt could also happen in the causality-violating region, but that's harder to access, so most civilisations can't use it.
15:50.17GhelAnd now, I have to go for a while. Bye!
15:51.25Technobliteratoractually i have to go too:L
15:51.27Technobliteratorbye!!
15:51.35Wormybye.
15:52.04LotGGah, where's Monet?
15:52.40WormyHumans vs. locust birds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWxRR9jN41A
15:53.02ImperiosBack to DoW
15:53.04WormyI'm going to sound like Irsk but...  Humanity FTW
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15:53.11Wormydafuk
15:53.12MonetHello.
15:53.17MonetHm?
15:53.24Wormy[16:52] <LotG> Gah, where's Monet?
15:53.44MonetOkay... that's creepy.
15:53.45LotGolol
15:53.58LotGHey dude, I finally finished school
15:54.04LotGCollege in three months
15:54.13MonetNice, what do you plan to do?
15:54.42LotGHopefully an ICT course
15:54.56WormyThen what?
15:55.10LotGHopefully a job
15:55.18WormyThen what?  xd
15:55.22Wormy*XD
15:55.26LotGI wanna do part time before that though
15:56.03WormyI'll be finishing my course in 2 weeks though it feels kind of sad
15:56.22MonetSame, although technicall I have finished the first year.
15:56.53WormyAlso there is no more work for me to do, so we're just going to have fun.  We get to choose what we want to do and the lecturers will let us/take us wherever
15:57.07Wormy...pub
15:57.14LotGLOL
15:57.42WormyThat is why college > school
15:59.18Wormy<PROTECTED>
16:00.01MonetCollege is great. Its not always 9-3, you don't ave to call the teacher 'sir' or 'miss' and it feels more relaxed.
16:00.31WormyI've had so mny good times
16:01.49WormyAlso, well in my college anyway the lecturers don't bother you
16:02.18WormySo you can mess about a bit
16:03.54WormyMonet: My college is meant to be 9-5, but its usually 9-4 for me.  If work is finished early you can go home, and on assignment workshop days you can get at home
16:08.08MonetI wonder of Operation Marines is only on the wiki so he can see what people think of X vs Y.
16:09.14MonetAll I have seen him do is make and comment on compariosn blogs.
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16:14.11Monet“Things like the interface is very minimalistic and it lets you concentrate on the world, not on the interface, so we made it feel much more like a console game from the interface side than an MMO, just for that reason, to make sure that everyone feels comfortable when they play it.” >> from a PC Gamer interview about the TES MMO.
16:14.15MonetHello
16:14.51MonetI can't believe they are actively saying they want to make it feel more like a console game... I just can't.
16:16.10Monethttp://www.pcgamer.com/2012/05/28/how-the-elder-scrolls-online-plans-to-improve-mmos-i-look-at-the-world-not-at-my-hotbar/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0
16:18.58Monethttp://www.pcgamer.com/2012/05/03/the-elder-scrolls-online-everything-you-need-to-know/ I like the setting.
16:19.20IrskaadANTEDDY
16:19.29Irskaadhugs a Cognatus
16:19.44MonetSecond age, Aldmerri Dominion, Daggerfall,
16:20.31WormyMonet I think it's probably true.  I like a bit of sci-fi debating though, but not to the point of flaming
16:21.48WormyElder Scrolls Online???
16:22.02CyrannianIrskaad: Hi Irsk! Apart from the Iteok-POOTIS mix up, did you like my story?
16:22.20MonetWormy: They've been talking about it for some time.
16:23.38WormyOMG
16:23.58IrskaadYup :D
16:24.17IrskaadI liked it and how you interpreted the POOTIS ships :D
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16:24.50MonetOh dear... it turns out you're going to be fighting with a hotbar..
16:25.27Irskaadeek a jo
16:25.32MonetHi
16:25.36Technobliteratorhii guys
16:25.44Technobliteratormonet & Irskaad: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/06/14/why-do-people-hate-ea
16:25.48CyrannianThanks! I'll give you the PNG tomorrow if you want to use it in the future.
16:26.37MonetI liked TES for the fact it was *push button  and to hit with sword* as basic as it may be it was refreshing from having a hotbar with 10 diferent buttons each with its own way to hit someone with said sword.
16:29.38MonetLet’s be clear. EA is a corporation and its primary concern is making money. >> I So wish this was untrue.
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16:31.50Technobliteratorhii
16:32.20MonetHello.
16:33.45CyrannianHello Dino!
16:34.16dino___helllo
16:34.37dino___how are you all doing!
16:35.49CyrannianI'm doing fine thanks, how are you?
16:39.31dino___great to hear!
16:39.37dino___I as well thank you, only a bit busy last week
16:43.12MonetReading that article I sit back and think.
16:44.30Technobliteratorthink what?
16:44.53MonetMillions are spent in R&D for countless fields yet somehow I ahve a good feeling that we could achieve just as much with half the funding people throw around. The problem is that capitalism has made such ventures so expensive.
16:45.04IrskaadReseting my PC, be back soon
16:46.22MonetApparently 60% of general research funding goes directly into the pockets of the executives who own the labs and give the green light. That's just greedy.
16:46.45MonetThat percantage could be more.
16:48.55Monethttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/ArielAtomGoodwood.jpg the Airiel Atom is a road-legal car that can compete with formula-1 racecars in terms of speed. It costs 30-40,000 pounds (I'm not kidding) and was designed in what was practicalyl a shed. It can be done.
16:50.39WormyMinecaft creative http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CUq0ViezBI&feature=g-vrec
16:52.36WormyYEEHAA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-HowcFLZA4
16:53.13LotGAgh
16:53.21LotGJust had some Christian missionaries turn up at my door
16:53.27LotGAsking me why I'm atheist
16:53.45MonetWow, that creative video has a flame war a mile long about the shape of the planet.
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16:54.00Irskaad.bak
16:54.15MonetAny minecraft player would know that the world IS flat but you shouldn't question it.
16:54.17CyrannianBye!
16:57.38MonetAnyway, LotG were you looking for me?
16:57.54dino___@LOTG"lol
16:58.02LotGolol
16:58.25LotGI was wondering where you were seeing as its a pretty big day for myself. I just wanted to share with you is all.
16:59.18WormyLotG: I love it when missionaries knock on my door.
16:59.25MonetOkay. I am happy for you.
16:59.32WormyI like to convewrt them
16:59.36LotGolol
17:01.16MonetLOL
17:02.25WormyThats one long argumemnt on the Minecraft video :P
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17:04.27zilla_gamingHi everyone.
17:04.49zilla_gamingti'll be gaming, so if u need me just give me a beep.
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17:06.55GhelaeHello.
17:08.05Wormyhi
17:08.32ShalonarOh hi dino__
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17:08.35ShalonarPerfect!
17:08.39ShalonarI wanted ya
17:08.39LakazHey all!
17:08.42MonetHello.
17:08.48ShalonarHi Lak
17:08.57ShalonarBasically
17:08.58ShalonarDino
17:09.18ShalonarCan Mortikran have a Radeon crew member?
17:09.46GhelaeHello.
17:13.01dino___hello
17:13.26dino___sure, I guess he can, perhaps his second in command or a normal crewmember?
17:14.58WormyThis is so dramatic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlDu6JN2Oi4&feature=related
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17:18.07LakazHey
17:18.18dino___bye have to go again
17:19.21IrskaadYay Xho
17:19.58XhoIs it me
17:20.09IrskaadYes
17:20.18XhoOr does each Tzhrhokia picture have something more shadowy and more powerful in each one
17:20.20IrskaadYou're Xho
17:20.24IrskaadOlol
17:20.37XhoNext part there'd be a Xhodocto
17:20.44XhoIf there was one
17:20.44IrskaadThere's only 3
17:21.32XhoOne thing how come the Kraw Galaxy races are the only one in the infobox
17:21.59IrskaadBecause others should add theirs
17:22.05IrskaadOr I could do it myself
17:22.14IrskaadBasically draft infobox
17:22.41Xho“The whole Multiverse shall be mine... MINE!”
17:22.48XhoXhodocto - Funny story about that we blew it all up
17:23.02IrskaadPOOTIS - No you didn't
17:23.17XhoXhodocto - *Shows them the multiverse* Yeah we did
17:23.51IrskaadPOOTIS - wait what
17:24.26LakazRandom Eranian - Wait, what happened to the multiverse? I only spent a moment in that hyperspatial rift...
17:24.45XhoXhodocto - We destroyed it all
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17:24.55GhelaeIt's less "the whole multiverse" than "the parts of reality that are worth having".
17:24.58LakazRandom Eranian - Oh... Damn.
17:25.05Ghelae...That POOTIS thinks shall be his.
17:25.24GhelaeHello.
17:27.00XhoAdded the Kicath and Kithworto to the page
17:27.07IrskaadYAY KICATHS
17:27.18XhoKicath
17:27.23XhoIf I have to tell you again
17:27.38IrskaadThen what? :D
17:27.52GhelaeThen he'll nuke Lisbon.
17:27.53XhoLet's say it won't end well for you
17:27.54Technobliteratoryou'll get screwed
17:28.47XhoKicaths is nearly impossible to pronounce anyway
17:29.10IrskaadBTW I just realized: I'm Night Stalker, stalking you, and you're Juggernaut, always hitting me with your sword
17:29.28XhoNo
17:29.33XhoHitting you with my bare fists
17:30.04XhoAnd I never played Dota 2 so I have little understanding
17:30.08XhoNor will I ever play it
17:30.28Irskaad:( But you would be part of my dream dire team
17:30.38XhoNo
17:30.41XhoNo I wouldn't
17:30.46ShalonarDum Irsk
17:30.58ShalonarYou need friends to play for you
17:30.59ShalonarNot idols
17:31.15XhoNeraida Apollo?
17:31.22XhoHah
17:31.27IrskaadWasn't it Aedan?
17:31.48MonetXho is more like Bane (the Batman version)
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17:32.54GhelaeHello.
17:32.57XhoGreat now I need Cyrannian for something
17:33.18Irskaadeek a bio
17:33.31Atamolosfeeds Irskaad to Xho.
17:33.40IrskaadYay
17:33.45Xhochews up Irskaad and vomits him up
17:34.52XhoI wanna see if the Cyrannian Grox would get along with the Nexus Grox
17:35.21AtamolosCyr Grox are not really Grox, they're just copycat Borgs.
17:35.37XhoTrue
17:35.43AtamolosBut, they are somewhat similar...
17:35.43XhoStill labelled under Grox though
17:35.49IrskaadI heard ASUS was making Nexus Grox
17:35.56Xho?
17:36.12XhoNexus Grox are a split way between the Grox and Xhodocto
17:36.20IrskaadYeah, and they'll unveil the Nexus Grox at Google I/O 2012
17:36.29XhoI'm going to hit you.
17:36.35AtamolosThey don't affiliate themselves with any Grox faction the developed independently.
17:36.54GhelaeXho: When an admin comes on, ask for them to make you an admin so you can kick him. :P
17:36.54IrskaadWhy :(
17:37.00XhoWell the Nexus Grox don't affiliate with anyone now that the Meta-Empre has been destroyed
17:37.16XhoThat and I need to sort of bring in the Xhodocto's ships
17:37.20XhoI mean Nexus Grox ships
17:37.26AtamolosOh. Then, they may get along much better.
17:38.03XhoNexus Grox have strange unexplained technology which is considered to be on the verge of high tier Cult tech
17:38.46XhoThe Saccharum, Obscuratum and Scorponarne are all large beings without faces, or any definable features apart from their body shape
17:39.04XhoSo called Synthetics
17:39.25AtamolosThey are the only Grox without Dronox.
17:39.31XhoThe Synthetics the Nexus Grox' answer to the drone races
17:39.33Xhoc
17:39.42Atamolosd
17:40.19Xhohttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120511200534/spore/images/d/d7/Scorponarnae.png One of their synthetics
17:40.43AtamolosI've already seen them. The Obscuratum is the best in my opinion.
17:41.05XhoI think so as well
17:41.15XhoSaccharum are plain but are the most dangerous
17:41.39Shalonar<PROTECTED>
17:41.48AtamolosAndromeda and Borealis Grox - WE ARE SUPERIOR!       Nexus Grox - We are like eight feet taller than you whelps.
17:42.05AtamolosThat's the Meta-Empire for you.
17:42.36XhoAnd then the Grox Lord who's 40 feet taller than the other Grox
17:43.00XhoNexus Grox are about 16ft tall
17:43.18MonetDo any Andromeda War participators have time to discuss what is happening next? come to #AndromedaWar
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17:46.38TechnobliteratorMonet: what's napolean total war like?
17:47.37MonetIts not too different from Empire but the campaign maps are diffreent.
17:47.57Technobliteratori don't think i've played total war
17:48.01Technobliteratori might have..i dunno
17:49.11MonetWatching one video "If Video Games Were In Minecraft" For Skyrim a guy in diamond armour talks to a guy who says the 'arrow in the knee' joke, five seconds later the adventurer gets hit with an arrow and turns into a villager.
17:50.07Xho_dum
17:50.26ShalonarHur
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17:55.10TechnoStarcraftMonet: just fyi, i might/probably will make a new barttle.net account
17:55.12TechnoStarcrafthi cyrannian
17:55.13CyrannianBlarg!
17:56.59ShalonarHi waptor
17:57.10MonetTechnobliterator: How come?
17:58.28ShalonarOh waptor
17:58.32ShalonarI wanted to say
17:58.46ShalonarI think you should make an ex-republican Grand Admiral
17:58.55ShalonarPerhaps promoting Nagala
17:59.27CyrannianI was actually thinking of doing that for a while. I might make a new character.
17:59.51ShalonarYeah
18:00.07ShalonarSo it's a good idea*
18:00.51AtamolosHello.
18:01.03CyrannianHello!
18:01.56ShalonarOh, and I am going to make a female Cyrannian Radeon officer for Obliterator. Is that okay?
18:02.03ShalonarI already asked dino and he approved.
18:02.12CyrannianSure, go ahead.
18:02.20Xho_Cyrannian I was wondering
18:02.40Xho_What would be the Cyrannian Grox' reaction towards their Nexus cousins
18:03.21CyrannianHm, they generally ignore Grox factions, but they wouldn't be hostile.
18:03.57Xho_Well Nexus Grox are in the same bracket as the Cyrannian Grox
18:04.00Xho_Called Grox
18:04.02Xho_But not Grox
18:04.31Cyrannianhas a super-special-awesome-secret idea
18:04.45Xho_?
18:07.55IrskaadXho, can you hit me? :D
18:08.48Xho_No
18:08.48MonetThat is just wrong.
18:09.02Xho_Because if I do i'll cause you irreversible mental retardation if I do
18:09.32CyrannianWhy do you want Xho to hit you...?
18:09.47IrskaadHe said he was going to hit me
18:10.14MonetTrue, but only if you kepct putting 's' on the end of Kicath.
18:10.21Monetkept*
18:12.13CyrannianDinner.
18:15.12TechnoStarcraftomg
18:15.15TechnoStarcrafti'm so pised off
18:15.27MonetNoobish/troll player?
18:15.34TechnoStarcraftnope
18:15.41TechnoStarcrafti can't even get onto battle.net
18:15.58MonetOuch
18:16.52TechnoStarcraft&now i can't use an account to get customer support...lame.
18:18.38ShalonarHm
18:18.48ShalonarSTORY TIME WITH BLAAARG
18:19.15MonetShalonar: Are you free now?
18:21.35Technobliteratorfucking blizzard
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18:22.45WormyBeen disconned for ages
18:22.46CyrannianHello!
18:22.48Wormyhi
18:23.01Monethello
18:23.17Xho_What's TP again
18:23.32MonetToughness.
18:23.56Xho_And once again where is this classification page
18:24.05Xho_I need to link it on my page because I can never find it
18:24.26Wormywtf http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Luhjgh/the_grox#comm-153280
18:24.29MonetTheres' a link to the stat page inside the infobox.
18:25.47Technobliteratori've lost my fucking battle.net account
18:25.50Technobliteratori'm so pissed off
18:26.27MonetYeah that sucks, You worked so hard on it.
18:26.41Technobliteratoryeahh
18:26.44Technobliteratori dunno what to do!
18:26.53Technobliteratori didn't even set it up my dad did
18:27.04Xho_What's battle.net?
18:27.18Technobliteratorblizzard stuff
18:27.19MonetIt's like Steam.
18:27.31MonetOnly you only play games on it and it's for Blizzard.
18:27.34CyrannianCould you write to the company asking to renew your account?
18:27.38MonetNo buying.
18:27.51ShalonarMonet: Wait a sec
18:28.10ShalonarI am kinda free now
18:28.36ShalonarI wonder Irskaad
18:28.37MonetBlizzard has had Battle.net for absolute years, they had it with Warcraft II.
18:30.21ShalonarDo Iteok have any noble families other than a royal one
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18:30.27Technobliteratori coul
18:30.29GhelaeHello.
18:30.39TechnobliteratorMonet: can you use your account to ask for customer support for me?
18:30.40IrskaadShalonar: No
18:30.55ShalonarSo basically
18:31.01Technobliteratortell them, the account ded
18:31.08ShalonarRoyal family ded = what happens?
18:31.31Technobliteratoractually
18:31.33MonetTechnobliterator: I'm not sure, yuo coudl try calling customer support, that's what I did when I had my account hacked this one time.
18:31.43Technobliteratori can't call them
18:31.46IrskaadIteok go into anarchy unless someone else successfully takes over - Currently most likely will be Zavrhos
18:32.24MonetXho we're about to talk about the Andromeda War
18:33.00MonetXho_: join #AndromedaWar
18:33.27Technobliteratorhow do i contact them..?
18:33.28ShalonarOkay, Irskaad, Russia did only have two true dynasties as well
18:34.11MonetThey should ahve a phone number, let me find it.
18:34.54Monethttps://us.battle.net/account/support/login-support.html there are these options
18:35.18Technobliteratori click on the authenticator option
18:35.22Technobliteratori need to give some id
18:35.29Technobliteratorbut how the fuck am i gonna have my dad's id
18:36.15Monethttp://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/contact you would still need to provide id.
18:36.38Technobliteratorwhich i can't do!!
18:37.34MonetThey might be able to help if you provide the email, it has been a long time since I called.
18:38.00Technobliteratorwell i dunno how to do that
18:38.40MonetIt is the same as your baattlenet account name (not TechnoDon, the email)
18:38.55Technobliteratoryes
18:39.12Technobliteratorhow do i provide my email
18:39.22Technobliteratorfuck that how do i do anything
18:39.22MonetThey will ask for it over the phone.
18:39.34Technobliteratori can't phone them
18:40.27MonetCap, I don't know then.
18:41.32Technobliteratorfucking battle.net
18:41.39Technobliteratortheir support is so shit
18:46.23Technobliteratorhow do i fucking contact them:?!
18:47.26Monethttps://eu.battle.net/support/en/ticket/submit I don't know if this will work
18:48.47Technobliteratornopw
18:49.17MonetDoesn't your dad trust you?
18:49.24Technobliteratorno
18:49.45CyrannianAnd now, I have to go.
18:51.11Technobliteratoroh wait i can do it by texting
18:51.52Monetfacepalms himself
18:52.54WormyYum pizza
18:55.01Technobliteratorno...i cant it seems
18:55.12Technobliteratoris there not a forum or emails or something?!
18:56.35Monethttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/13438/ ?
18:56.52Technobliteratori can't do that, i have no account:L
18:56.54Technobliteratorcan you do it?
19:16.47Irskaadhttp://i.imgur.com/NoK5Z.png This seriously happened. And it's not just me, the Dota 2 community has the same problem.
19:17.16IrskaadIt's like they mixed Portuguese with some odd translation for battle
19:17.54WormyI don't get it
19:18.20IrskaadThat is showing in Dota 2, where everything else is in english
19:18.32Irskaadeverything else in the game*`
19:19.10WormyLucky you are literate with both languages then.
19:20.18Irskaadhttp://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/v2k4a/language_changed_with_the_new_patch_oopsie/ The comments on that
19:20.40Xho_I don't get it
19:21.03IrskaadI should stop posting things here.
19:22.01Xho_No just that I don't get it
19:55.12Monethttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/99/UrielArmoured.png Uriel in his trademark armour.
20:00.01ShalonarSounds stylish
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20:00.36Shalonar*Looks
20:00.37MonetHe's an emperor, he deserves a bit of bling.
20:00.40ShalonarHo waptor
20:00.43MonetHello.
20:01.04CyrannianBlarg.
20:01.06MonetCyrannain: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/99/UrielArmoured.png >> We're talknig about this.
20:02.14WormyI think Cyrannian has a fur ball
20:02.20Wormyin his throat
20:02.46MonetCan reptiles get furballs?
20:03.00Shalonarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9aPfMpCpFw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
20:03.03ShalonarHur
20:03.11MonetMaybe its all the kittens he's been eating.
20:03.12CyrannianIt's the traditional reptilian greeting.
20:04.26MonetYou mean liek Bonjourna?
20:08.15WormyImperios: What did I just watch
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20:10.16Needles_10ReCaptcha of the Day: dusouse daft
20:10.37Cyrannian~seen OluapPlayer
20:10.45infobotoluapplayer <bada0733@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.218.7.51> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 6h 55m 53s ago, saying: 'Oh well, ME time'.
20:10.53GhelaeHello.
20:10.57MonetSomeone with absolutely appauling spelling.
20:11.07Needles_10Looking up where the "Make paegs" man is?
20:11.50MonetHello
20:11.59Needles_10Hi
20:12.03CyrannianHonk.
20:12.20Needles_10*expects Irsk to yell a salutation*
20:14.45Needles_10So, what's new?
20:14.51Needles_10~seen Irskaad
20:14.53infobotirskaad is currently on #sporewiki (1h 24m 43s) #cyrannus (1h 24m 43s). Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 53m 50s, last said: 'I should stop posting things here.'.
20:15.49Needles_10Foof.
20:17.12Needles_10Dis...
20:20.04zilla_gaminggotta go guys
20:20.56Needles_10BLEH!
20:23.52Shalonarhttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/74/Anwynna.png
20:24.07ShalonarThat's Mortikran's future crew
20:25.31Shalonar[[]]
20:25.31morgothBotPyShalonar meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
20:25.58Xho_http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1f/NocturnianImperator.png The Imperator
20:26.45ShalonarEmprah
20:27.53MonetUriel - Why do I keep encountering emperors who are freakishly tall for their species?
20:28.21IrskaadYay Nocturnians
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20:29.48LotGHey guys...
20:29.57IrskaadHey
20:30.37MonetHi
20:32.48ShalonarHi LotG
20:33.24GhelaeHello.
20:37.56ShalonarI have just realised Artharons must find our afterlife concepts horrifying
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20:38.12IrskaadExplain Impy, and jooooooooooooo
20:40.46ShalonarBasically
20:41.08ShalonarArtharons can't imagine their life without any conflict and pain
20:41.18ShalonarTheir whole life is marked with them
20:42.07IrskaadWhat if an Artharon was put in a Kraw world? A middle world where there's barely any conflict and pain?
20:42.20Needles_10Blargh
20:42.56MonetIrskaad: Same thing.
20:45.14ShalonarArtharon - Bored
20:45.43IrskaadKraw - *Plays a game and shows the game to the Artharon*
20:45.54ShalonarArtharon - Meh. I would smack someone but these creatures are so small. Ah. Give me something big and angry!
20:46.18IrskaadKraw - You could smack some grimbs if they come again to screw us over.
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20:46.57CatfaceHi.
20:47.06Wormyhi
20:47.18CatfaceI'm at Barnes hospital now.
20:48.55Needles_10wai?
20:48.56GhelaeHello.
20:48.58ShalonarMonet: What do toy mean?
20:49.06ShalonarCatface: Ouch.
20:49.45Monet[21:42] <Monet> Irskaad: Same thing. >> Kraw city = human afterlife.
20:49.57MonetThey might enjoy Valhallah.
20:50.00WormyDCP - to Kraw Wanna put that to the test?
20:50.05ShalonarObviously they will
20:50.33Needles_10Irskaad: Can you write http://pastie.org/4089181/ into Tzhrhokia?
20:50.48IrskaadOkay, in a while
20:51.00Xho_*Valhalla
20:51.16IrskaadKraw - Yes. Artharon, sick'em!
20:51.40ShalonarMonet: Artharons are all about *competition*, they like to do stuff that is difficult to see their worth.
20:53.33Needles_10Meep
20:53.37Needles_10I'm stressin' out!
20:54.38CatfaceWormy do you have anything entertaining and whatnot?
20:54.47Irskaadhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuip3Kshcd0 That silencer is so dum, dummer than that Mirana
20:56.09Wormyi have a song
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20:56.13XhoI bet the AGC would like the Imperator's skull
20:56.41WormyCatface: I'll have vto find it though
20:57.14CatfaceMy laptop is almost dead and I forgot the charger -_-
20:58.10WormyNelly the Elephant, by Toy Dolls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eti21PVHXrg
20:59.18Catfacewat
20:59.43Wormythe song gets better
21:01.00CatfaceEffects of bath salt?
21:01.23Xhohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQntgImWoQ8 God this crowd is awful
21:02.02WormyNo that causes pink elephants
21:02.46Wormytest
21:03.20XhoHm
21:03.28XhoI think Pink Elephant is a bit of a convo killer
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21:05.54Wormybattery gone
21:09.28Needles_10Irskaad: Writing in?
21:11.56Needles_10Meep?
21:12.33IrskaadNot yet, watching dota videos
21:15.25XhoI'm confused
21:15.33XhoWhy are there so many furries on DA
21:18.28Wormytest
21:19.15WormyWell Xho, I think it's because it's a medium where furries can network together, create and share furry art for their own pleasures,
21:20.31MonetApparently animal faces are easier to draw and show expression than human faces.
21:21.16WormyAnd many furries want a way to express their depresed selves
21:30.21XhoI'm gonna see if I can get Darkspore
21:30.27XhoAnd then get the Dark Injection Spore mod
21:30.34XhoParts there look interesting to use
21:31.17XhoI mean what I could do with the Xhodocto would be ultra insane
21:35.48IrskaadYAY
21:36.42Monethttp://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/Draconis-Wings-308580784 what do peopel think of the wings?
21:37.19XhoNicely done
21:37.48XhoI dunno whether to get Darkspore now or not
21:37.57XhoIf I do my father might just as well kill me for doing so
21:39.40Xhohttp://spore-freaks.deviantart.com/gallery/?set=28898341&offset=0#/d4v3bg1 I mean look at this
21:40.13IrskaadYeah, that is fucking awesome
21:41.53WormyWow
21:42.16MonetBloody hell!
21:42.19XhoIt gives you 650 new parts
21:42.33XhoWhat I could do with that could be unholy
21:42.50IrskaadThe Xhodocto would look 100x more epic
21:43.20MonetHello, your creation is awesome! You're very skilled! I am a judge in a graphic competition and I think your creation would have good chance to win! You should register and write that I contacted you by deviantArt. You could win great prizes! Even if you don't win, somes prizes are randomly given! Here is the link if you're interested, it takes two minutes to register: >> D: You have got to be kidding me...
21:44.31MonetThis thing was only a diagram and... and I got noticed!
21:48.33Needles_10I'm going to update to Lion! Be back sooner-or-later!
21:49.38MonetI'm not sure if that comment is legit or someoen jerking me around.
21:50.04MonetOr if it is a potential scam. The link -seems- clean.
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21:50.37Avetzanhi
21:50.41MonetHi
21:51.44Needles_10Meeeeeeeeeeeep...
21:52.10Avetzan?
21:53.41WormyThat da account is no judge, it has info on it.  Its probably a spambot or spammer
21:53.45Wormytest
21:53.59Avetzan?
21:54.14Avetzanok...
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21:56.06Needles_10Oluap! Yay!!
21:56.43IrskaadYay Ko
21:58.12MonetHmm...
21:59.40OluapPlayingI wanted Jo but nevermind
21:59.45OluapPlaying~shoot Xho
21:59.45infobotACTION shoots Xho in the foot with a spitwad!
21:59.51Xhodum
22:00.10IrskaadYay Ko
22:00.33WormyNo Glastonbury due to dum olympics http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/17/glastonbury-2012-london-olympics
22:02.10WormyThen again I could respect the conservation reason to create a fallow year
22:03.35Needles_10Irskaad: Writing in?
22:03.54IrskaadI'll do it now
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22:05.39IrskaadAll hail the great destroyer! 12.
22:05.52Irskaad12 points to sweden!
22:06.19Avetzan? who
22:06.35GreatDestroyer12haha, hello
22:07.01GreatDestroyer12can somebody talk to me about where the universe is right now
22:07.10Avetzanwhat?
22:07.10GreatDestroyer12like whats the anihalation
22:07.14Avetzanoh
22:07.38IrskaadOh sorry, don't know what the anihalation is, but I do know about the Anihilation
22:07.50GreatDestroyer12sorry, thats what i meant
22:08.25IrskaadWell, Xhodocto blew up most of the Multiverse, but civilization survived.
22:08.27AvetzanI think Anihilation is when Xhodocto killed tons empires (and needless empires)
22:08.33WormyIrsk: Well Sweden got dropped out of Eurocup, so I doubt many care about Dota 2 win
22:08.43*** join/#sporewiki LotG (6d9cffcb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.156.255.203)
22:08.44LotGWhat did you guys do?
22:08.47Needles_10Meeeeeeep!
22:08.56GreatDestroyer12i see, so Anihilation is basically cleaning house
22:09.01Wormy*annihilation
22:09.02Avetzanyeah
22:09.03GreatDestroyer12i see, so Anihilation is basically cleaning house
22:09.10LotGhttp://pukingrainbow.deviantart.com/journal/SporeWiki-Unfriendly-Fan-Community-plz-read-308584710 Somebody explain this
22:09.15Needles_10I'mma have to close out a ton of stuff
22:09.30Needles_10See you sooner or later!
22:09.38GreatDestroyer12what are the main fictions that are going on right now?
22:10.25OluapPlayingHaving a geth as a teammate is fun
22:10.39WormyI'm LOLLING AT THAT LINK
22:11.00WormyBest thing I've seen since that hate page made by those vandals
22:11.12GreatDestroyer12the two things i've seen are Station Halycon and the inquisition against the followers of the Devourer
22:11.19Needles_10Irskaad: How much progress?
22:13.19IrskaadNone yet due to this whole ordeal
22:13.38AvetzanGreatDestroyer12: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Active_fiction_and_stories -I think it needs updated though I'm not sure :P
22:14.15OluapPlayerMeh
22:14.20OluapPlayerI treated her nice
22:14.27OluapPlayerIf she thinks like that she better never return
22:14.30OluapPlayerOr I'll make her life hell
22:15.16GreatDestroyer12I see, thanks
22:15.51GreatDestroyer12Isn't the second coming of the xhodocto finished thoiugh, with the xhodocto ascending and the deathmarch becoming unstoppable?
22:16.13IrskaadThat happened in 2011
22:16.23OluapPlayerWell there hasn't been any new wars to it
22:16.30OluapPlayerSo it's more "inactive" than really ended
22:16.37Avetzanneeds updated :P
22:16.53OluapPlayerWe tried to revive it with a war called Terminal Point but the wiki ignored it to the point of cancelling
22:17.25IrskaadAnd then I did a Skeleton King with Tzhrhokia
22:17.54GreatDestroyer12ok, out of curiosity, are the gaps in military capability between tiers so great that a tier 3.0 empire like my Drakodominatus would be completely and utterly destroyed in a war with a tier 2?
22:17.58WormyI'm going to a post a really polite comment in response
22:21.58OluapPlayerbrb
22:22.27Irskaadfuk steem iz down
22:22.36IrskaadNow it isn0t
22:22.40Irskaadisn't*
22:25.37AvetzanGreatDestroyer12: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Wormulon/Tier_instruction_manual- Tiers (tech), http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog%3AGhel%C3%A6/Class_Scale-development
22:26.14Avetzanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog%3AGhel%C3%A6/Class  Scale-development- sorry
22:26.15LotGWow, Eldar really pwn Tau
22:26.17Needles_10Irskaad: How much progress?
22:27.04Avetzanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog%3AGhel%C3%A6/Class_Scale  sorry again
22:27.41GreatDestroyer12haha, its suck in warhammer how the galaxy's only hope at enlightenment and rule by non crazy totalitarians with giant ego's is so hopelessly outclassed
22:28.00Needles_10Okay, just because Lion is taling so long, I'll close out Chrome. See you sooner-or-later!
22:28.44MonetHello
22:29.28GreatDestroyer12thanks for the link, ya i have 50 000 systems so i guess class 8. My biotech is horrible though
22:29.58MonetLotG: I saw that link.
22:30.16GreatDestroyer12do you guys think it would be a good idea to write a fiction about necromorphs within this universe?
22:30.16Avetzanwow, I started with a tier 5 :P, also read fiction guidelines
22:30.25Avetzannecromorphs?
22:30.30GreatDestroyer12i was originally intergalactic then i got retconned
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22:30.35Avetzanoh
22:30.46GreatDestroyer12i started with 500k then went to 50k but most of it is wild west
22:30.52GreatDestroyer12dead space 2
22:30.54TybusenHai
22:31.02MonetHi
22:31.02Avetzanah
22:31.03GreatDestroyer12its a lovely system of repression in my empire
22:31.04WormyBTW guys, my tier scale of outdated
22:31.06GreatDestroyer12hi
22:31.12Avetzanhi tybusen
22:31.18GreatDestroyer12Monet, is your inquisition thing still going on?
22:31.38MonetIt has only just started, in planning phases really.
22:31.59GreatDestroyer12can i join it? though i can't really project much intergalactic force
22:32.05WormyThis is my new tech scale, it still in development http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AWormulon/Types_of_civilisation#Tier_scale_V2
22:32.07Monetif you're talking about the Grand Inquisition as a group, they target more than just the Devourer's chosen.
22:33.28GreatDestroyer12haha well i don't really carry about the ideological implications, but my troops need practice against enemies that are more capable so as to improve the military
22:33.46GreatDestroyer12but mostly the one against the devourers chosen
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22:34.29MonetSeeing as how the Chosene have a habit of rainwasing theri enemies, we have an ambitious task ahead of us :)
22:34.34MonetHello
22:34.37FalcoPunchHello
22:34.38Avetzanyou have given me ideas for my military practice, virtual systems and such (don't know how I got that from that
22:34.39Monetbrainwashing*
22:34.42Avetzanhello
22:35.38GreatDestroyer12Haha, my military practice is generally just invading worlds that have only apollo mission level technology
22:36.17GreatDestroyer12Monet, what  kind of weapons are needed against the Chosen?
22:36.45MonetOrdinary weapons are good but some demons are tough to kill.
22:37.19GreatDestroyer12just because of their sheer mass?
22:37.32GreatDestroyer12like the giant chaos demon at the end of the titan comic?
22:38.06GreatDestroyer12the one by dan abnett
22:38.36MonetNot all, mae'vaero (I think that is hwo you spell it) can only be permenantly destroyed by essence, otherwise they just won't die.
22:39.07MonetThe inquisition's main target are the cultists who are little more than insane fanatics.
22:39.44GreatDestroyer12I see, so chaos cultists. By that logic doesn't that mean they should (at least their normal troops) be easy to beat?
22:39.52IrskaadMahedore - Sadly, I am the inquisition's greatest nightmare.
22:40.27MonetArsac - Are you skraving joking?
22:40.38IrskaadMahedore - No.
22:40.52OluapPlayerMari'verao
22:40.59MonetThank you Oluap.
22:41.20MonetArsac - Then you must forgive me if I cannot help but find your threat amusing.
22:41.33GreatDestroyer12the linguistics skill here is pretty cool, who made that name?
22:41.46IrskaadMahedore - Then please do amuse yourself - That only makes you weaker.
22:42.45OluapPlayerMe
22:43.02GreatDestroyer12I praise your linguistic awesomeness
22:43.10MonetVirtually all names were created by the players.
22:43.13GreatDestroyer12what languages inspired you to make that name?
22:43.18Monetor users, take your pick/
22:43.34GreatDestroyer12Is it like Maori and Mayan with a sprinkling of African tribal languages?
22:43.49MonetArsac - Laughter makes the heart grow fonder Mahedore.
22:43.59IrskaadDobak Taag. Ek 15 Hexnaar 411 Krawnak Aag.
22:44.12GreatDestroyer12Are those yoiurs
22:44.16GreatDestroyer12*yours?
22:44.31IrskaadMahedore - Have you even seen what I am capable of?
22:44.45MonetArsac - I've seen worse.
22:45.05IrskaadMahedore - You have not.
22:45.09GreatDestroyer12for example my language is based on german ,russian, latin and chinese
22:45.12MonetArsac - I am certain even Tyraz surpasses you!
22:45.19GreatDestroyer12Demogorgon: Ahtzevsk unzdet tycrhid mrydisct, Critzhazkh ahtzevs discht drigen oubzvitz (These ones prove worthy, bring them to the pits)
22:45.32GreatDestroyer12but i cant get around to using the cooler ones
22:45.45IrskaadMahedore - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - Tyraz is but a mere being who temporarily married AN ASGORD!
22:45.59IrskaadMahedore - The worst of them, to top it off!
22:46.26GreatDestroyer12is there some kind of long standing rivalry going on here?
22:46.52Monet*clears throat* Dracid: Terum kil primar dask richtar el elumitan sodarum ter pal'physcarum; tor cara memramus (there is only one true and righteous path to Immortality, to be rememebred)
22:47.21MonetArsac is an inquisitor, Mahedore is an ancient being mepowered by dark energies. So there is a rivalry.
22:47.24IrskaadMahedore - I am immortal but I made everyone forget me 1.7 Billion years ago.
22:47.39GreatDestroyer12reminds me of Troy, the latin there is pretty evident, awesome dude
22:47.49MonetI baded Dracid on Latin.
22:47.52Monetbased*
22:48.17MonetArsac - *smiles* I can understand why.
22:48.35IrskaadMahedore - Yes, to prove my superiority.
22:49.02MonetArsac - I wouldn't see it that way..
22:49.16GreatDestroyer12ok imma introduce my character  Digztof Mortkriezt now into this convo
22:49.21IrskaadMahedore - What are you talking about?
22:49.59Xhodum mahedore
22:50.07OluapPlayeryes, dum mahedore
22:50.21OluapPlayerAnd dum arsac for trying to argue
22:50.34Irskaadtbh even I don't know what Arsac's talking about
22:50.46XhoOluapPlayer: I added the Nocturnian Imperator
22:51.12OluapPlayerImperator Tyranus - took ma jerb
22:51.21MonetShe's suggesting that mahedore made people forget him because he was seen as a joke, like today :>
22:51.22GreatDestroyer12ALL HAIL XHODOCTO, for his fiction the Ayrai Shikua make Chaos Demons look like, well , Mortals
22:51.40Xho?
22:51.46GreatDestroyer12your fiction is awesome
22:51.58XhoI see
22:52.01MonetXho: He's talking abotu warhammer with 'chaos demons'.
22:52.03IrskaadMahedore - This is irrelevant. Anyways, you will submit to the chosen otherwise I will spill blood. Draconis blood.
22:52.21XhoAh that's why I didn't get it
22:52.21MonetArsac - Yawn.
22:52.43GreatDestroyer12Digztof Mortkriezt - Why do we not settle this matter in martial contest
22:52.53IrskaadMahedore - I have powerful forces at my disposal... My dragons would like some Draconis flesh...
22:53.02XhoIt would be funny if Kithworto was sleeping right next to them both
22:53.08IrskaadMahedore - I don't do contests.
22:53.27IrskaadAnd then I'd sleep right next to him
22:53.45OluapPlayerNai-Ar'natl - Blood will be spilled, wherever they submit or not.
22:53.50GreatDestroyer12Digztof Mortkriezt - Contest, the nature is irrelevant, why do we not turn our attention from foul tides of rhetoric into a contest of steel
22:53.56IrskaadMahedore - Yes... Hahaha!
22:53.58XhoKithworto - bitch wat u don sleeping next to me for
22:54.08IrskaadMe - I like you,
22:54.09Irskaad.*
22:54.14OluapPlayerghey
22:54.35MonetArsac - I don't know why I bother.
22:54.39XhoKithworto - Ngh
22:54.48IrskaadMahedore - Because you're afraid!
22:55.08GreatDestroyer12Digztof Mortkriezt - For in the end, past the ephemerality and the labyrinthe of our oratory, their lies the solidity and honesty of the sword
22:55.16XhoKithworto - says the one who runs home to his mother when he hears Xhodocto
22:55.20MonetArsac - I -know- fear idiot.
22:55.27IrskaadMahedore - X...Xhodocto?
22:56.08XhoKithworto - You heard me
22:56.24IrskaadMahedore - I shall not be killed again...
22:56.33OluapPlayerMass Effect 2 gave me some ideas on how to expand a minor fiction into a potentially bigger one
22:56.36OluapPlayerdis gon b gud
22:56.47Irskaaddid u finish gaem?
22:56.52GreatDestroyer12Digztof Mortkriezt - So companion Arsac, how many men and ships do you need?
22:56.56OluapPlayerNo
22:56.59XhoKithworto - Idiot.
22:57.15GreatDestroyer12im pretty sure EA is gonna keep milking it
22:57.20GreatDestroyer12the series makes so much money
22:57.43IrskaadMahedore - I'm not an idiot!
22:58.11OluapPlayerNai-Ar'natl - You look strikingly similar to the allied gods who nearly destroyed Borealis...But it doesn't matter. Where they fell, the Corruptus will rise.
22:58.21MonetIrskaad: ME2's emding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ME3's anding.
22:58.46IrskaadEverything has a better ending than ME3
22:58.48XhoKithworto - Well according to some my spiritual grandfather is Xi'Arazkha
22:59.07IrskaadMahedore - Hmph. All shall fall under the corruptus.
22:59.26OluapPlayerbrb
22:59.32GreatDestroyer12Digztof Mortkriezt - Arsac, really, how many people do you need to defeat this foul meance
22:59.39MonetArsac - Didn't the corruptus try a war of domination before? Failing in the process.
22:59.51GreatDestroyer12Vae Victis
23:00.14OluapPlayerNai-Ar'natl - It did. Twice. But don't try to fool yourself in thinking it was easy.
23:00.17IrskaadMahedore - The corruptus never fails. Eventually the devourer will consume all...
23:00.45XhoKithworto - How about...you don't consume us all and you go back to wherever you came from?
23:00.47MonetArsac - Never fails? The arrogance you radiate is really enrgising.
23:01.21OluapPlayerNai-Ar'natl - No. The Devourer requires more souls. he hungers for heretical blood.
23:01.25IrskaadMahedore - We don't fail, we just get slowed down, like a software installation.
23:01.45GreatDestroyer12Digztof Mortkriezt - Really you could get slowed into an infinite while loop
23:02.03XhoKithworto - Well you ain't gettin' mine
23:02.23OluapPlayerNai-Ar'natl - I don't need yours. The allied gods already have it.
23:02.25MonetArsac - You compare the corruptus' camaign to software installation? How naive.
23:02.27IrskaadMahedore - A "honorable geek warrior". This universe keeps getting crazier.
23:03.38GreatDestroyer12Haha Digztof Mortkriezt is not really honorable, and he was talking to his scientific liaison to make that response
23:03.52XhoKithworto - Meh
23:04.16WormyI'm watching "The Objective", has anyone ever seen it?
23:04.20GreatDestroyer12He's more of a Victory at Any Cost then Public Relation it kind of guy
23:04.20OluapPlayerNai-Ar'natl - When they feel like it, they could control you like a puppet...if they're not doing it already.
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23:04.42Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Objective
23:04.55IrskaadMahedore - We could kill Arsac together. A big heretic for the devourer.
23:05.04XhoDid someone kick PukingRainbow off the wiki?
23:05.15OluapPlayernope
23:05.37GreatDestroyer12nope, havent seen it
23:05.53WormyShe doesn't need kicking http://pukingrainbow.deviantart.com/journal/SporeWiki-Unfriendly-Fan-Community-plz-read-308584710
23:06.02GreatDestroyer12idk actually where the Drakodominatus interest actually lie
23:06.09GreatDestroyer12i mean we just want more tech and more colonies
23:06.11WormyI made a polite comment
23:07.14OluapPlayer"I tried commiting suicide last year because I was at a school which people pushed me around and regarded me as a pathetic, ugly worm."
23:07.15OluapPlayerAh screw you
23:07.25OluapPlayerHate people like this
23:08.07LotGOoh, she ain't the only person
23:08.09LotGSo big deal
23:08.32Reebutt17She ruins our good name
23:09.28LotGTo be honest, did she even try to fit in?
23:09.41Xho"Doesn't matter. I tried commiting suicide last year because I was at a school which people pushed me around and regarded me as a pathetic, ugly worm. Do you see a depressed suicidal worm in my personality? No!   Who cares what state Wiki was in? It wasn't because of me!  "
23:09.45MonetShe was nice.
23:09.45XhoYeah i'm walking away now
23:09.54XhoOh god Oluap why comment on the same thing
23:10.00LotGOr did she just ignore us and decide to post random comments?
23:10.00Xhoy u dam u
23:10.00Xhoy
23:10.05Xhohivemind dam u y
23:10.41Reebutt17That girl is such an overreacting bitch
23:10.47XhoShould I just bring them all down to earth?
23:11.05XhoBecause I certainly feel like it
23:11.06WormyOne of her supporters is saying "I hate everything, but I hate myself more." as a tagline
23:11.09LotGGo ahead
23:11.11WormyDo so Xho
23:11.24OluapPlayercus u dum and late
23:11.25WormyI laid down some logic as well
23:11.26XhoMightget kicked off DA but oh well most of them are a bunch of [insert derogative here]
23:11.34OluapPlayerflails his arms in Xho's face
23:12.04Reebutt17And I especially hate most of the numerous fangirls that populate DA imho.
23:12.31Reebutt17I don't like the way most of them speak
23:13.06GreatDestroyer12whats a furry?
23:13.31LotG...
23:13.36MonetYou don't know?
23:14.04WormyI went on DA expecting somewhat more interesting and new/original artwork.  While I have found some example, they are marginal.
23:14.09XhoGreatDestroyer12: I like you already
23:14.19Reebutt17Long story.... Furries are either A: Anthropomorphized animals, usually wolves and dogs and cats and such or B: People who like said anthropomorphized animals, in which in this case the anthropomorphized animals could be called "anthros"
23:14.51WormySome furries are only in it for fetish reasons
23:15.11GreatDestroyer12I see, so Rainbow was a lover of all things related to the said anthros?
23:15.22Reebutt17Kind of, something like that... yeah.
23:15.56GreatDestroyer12and now shes acting as if the sole purpose of this wiki is just to burn her
23:16.10Reebutt17Yeah, what an overreacting prick imho
23:17.29GreatDestroyer12They Wanted To Burn Me, boo hoo
23:18.13GreatDestroyer12It's not like she's important enough for the community to go out of it's way to burn her
23:18.14MonetI wouldn't mock that kind of stuff.
23:18.45GreatDestroyer12But really, the reaction points to a giant ego, that's all im saying
23:18.56OluapPlayerI would, I have no respect for this kind of people
23:19.01LotGWe were aware of an ego problem
23:19.02WormyShe did have an enlarged ego
23:19.53Wormyhttp://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=User%3APukingRainbow&action=historysubmit&diff=480979&oldid=480885
23:20.14GreatDestroyer12Also the fact that it's They wanted to burn ME is really narcisstic
23:20.43WormyI know a couple of narcisstic people
23:20.45GreatDestroyer12its like just because it's her we turn into giant assholes, just because of her
23:21.04WormyNarcisstic rage
23:21.30LotG"Free speech rule, I have the right to bring it up as and example to say I didn't let that alter the way I treated new members. I know it's a sensative subject, I'm just as sensative and it's not fair that I have to deal with such rudeness. No one deserves that kind of welcoming. Not even a kitten."
23:21.42LotG"I can calm down when I want to; this is what happens when I'm forced to keep all that rage in in order to be polite to unpolite people."
23:21.50LotGBitch please
23:21.52LotGGet real
23:21.54GreatDestroyer12lol she talks like a giant ass internet celebrity, my fans, my friends etc
23:22.04Reebutt17Give me her soul!
23:22.34Xhohttp://pukingrainbow.deviantart.com/journal/SporeWiki-Unfriendly-Fan-Community-plz-read-308584710 There I said my sentiment
23:22.38Reebutt17GD12: Yes, that's one of the reasons why I don't like fangirls... and I think what you said helps me to better describe the way most speak.
23:24.03LotGclaps Xho
23:24.27OluapPlayerXho: Your DA sign made me lol
23:24.45LotGI asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.
23:24.47LotGlol
23:24.53GreatDestroyer12Better to ask forgiveness than permission
23:24.59Irskaadpoof
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23:25.52Wormy" My parents agree; I shouldn't allow that stuff to stress me out."
23:26.05WormyWe're dealing with a child, it's what you can expect
23:26.29LotGI'm already depressed, now I'm pissed
23:26.36LotGAgh, I need a drink
23:26.45MonetAFAIK most people on this wiki keep any fetishes 9if they still ahve any) to themselves.
23:26.47LotGThis is supposed to be a good day
23:27.14MonetA few minutes from the screen is always good.
23:27.15Reebutt17My morning has only been partly damaged, but is easily repairable.
23:27.29GreatDestroyer12hmm well i don't see how most childs would have developed such an urge to put their sexual fantasies with their grox boyfriends online
23:27.51LotGKids do sexual things cuz they think its cool
23:28.01LotGWhen its really really not
23:28.39IrskAndroidSex is for breeding
23:28.49GreatDestroyer12umm not sexual with bears and wolves
23:28.52LotGUmm...
23:28.56Wormy^
23:29.00Reebutt17and tbh I'd rather have a human or an anime human than I'd have an anthro imho.
23:29.16LotGAnd unfortunately, MOST (note MOST) furries do tend to reveal fetishes quite often.
23:29.18Reebutt17hmm... I think what I said might be more suited to have been said at #illarion ?
23:29.34GreatDestroyer12haha
23:29.43LotGAnd to be honest, it gets both irritating and disgusting
23:29.46MonetIrskAndroid: Sex is percieved as more than for breeding but I'm not gonig there.
23:29.48Reebutt17Luc: Yeah
23:30.02GreatDestroyer12i do not believe this is the proper forum for such discussion
23:30.02LotGYeah, lets just keep it there
23:30.18Reebutt17GD12: Click this then -> #illarion
23:30.31XhoJust looking at this
23:30.36GreatDestroyer12Let Pukerainbow keep to her beautiful mind (gots to love John Nash)
23:30.37XhoDavid Draiman is a tiny bloke
23:30.45GreatDestroyer12haha im not going, not i nthe mood for that right now
23:30.52Reebutt17okay then
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23:31.03LotGDavid is rather short
23:31.12Xho5'7"
23:31.16LotGGeez
23:31.24LotGHe's only a few inches taller than Hachi
23:31.29LotGHe's about 5'4''
23:31.47IrskAndroidDavid Draiman in Eurovision - How would he do?
23:31.52MonetTiny baby-man.
23:32.02XhoDavid Draiman is American
23:32.06XhoSo it wouldn't work
23:32.08LotG^
23:32.17IrskAndroid:P
23:32.18LotGDavid Draiman doesn't perform solo either
23:32.22LotGHe's got his own band
23:32.47LotGGotta admit, he tiny baby-man with a rather astounding voice
23:33.08XhoAye
23:33.23GreatDestroyer12its annoying to keep using politically correct terminology
23:33.45Reebutt17GreatDestroyer: what do you mean?
23:33.50XhoNow if I get flamed for that comment
23:33.53GreatDestroyer12imagine having had to say a vertically challenged (due to a congenital condition man)
23:33.54XhoRemind me to laugh
23:33.56GreatDestroyer12instead of a midget
23:34.03LotGXho, I wanna say thanks
23:34.17XhoFor that comment I just did?
23:34.21LotGYeah
23:34.28XhoWell i'm not all evil
23:35.05LotGOh God, I think I've just teared up. brb
23:35.06MonetGreatDestroyer12: Do you hate Do-gooders?
23:35.17GreatDestroyer12in spore or in real life?
23:35.19XhoAh crap I try to be nice and I make someone cry
23:35.24XhoRemind me to stay evil
23:35.25MonetReal life.
23:35.29Reebutt17Bitch just refused to respond to Xho's comment on DA and flag it for spam instead.
23:35.36GreatDestroyer12i dont hate, im just a relatavist
23:35.49GreatDestroyer12i have nothing against do gooders
23:35.55GreatDestroyer12i just dont adapt their policies
23:35.58IrskAndroidAaaaah is Xho banned?!
23:36.07MonetNo his comment was jut blocked.
23:36.20IrskAndroidPhew
23:36.22XhoNgh
23:36.27GreatDestroyer12So no, i dont hate do gooders
23:36.28WormyHe could get banned but that was the price Xho seems willing to take since DA is crappy
23:36.28XhoWhatever I don't like DA anyway
23:36.54GreatDestroyer12admins their are pretty hypocrital
23:37.04LotGAdmins there are pretty stupid
23:37.04IrskAndroidWhere would I fave your stuff from?
23:37.07GreatDestroyer12i mean her article just called us a bunch of ragin dickheads
23:37.25XhoI dunno
23:37.36GreatDestroyer12yet xho gets blocked when he responds in something of the same magnitude
23:37.45GreatDestroyer12MOnet whats your perspective on do gooders?
23:37.49LotGHis comment was blocked
23:37.51LotGNot him
23:38.04GreatDestroyer12sorry, i wasnt specific
23:38.10GreatDestroyer12his comment then
23:39.25XhoPathetic child
23:39.28IrskAndroidWas I feeding tide with my sad comments there?
23:39.41MonetDo-Gooders only want to wrap children in cotton wool, but all it does is hinder theri development.
23:39.44XhoThe #1 thing I hate in this world is pathetic children
23:39.44MonetGD12: I think Political Correctness has jut gone insane.
23:39.54XhoOr maybe joint #1 with many other things
23:39.57XhoThere is no #2
23:40.01WormyI don't like dogooderism
23:40.33WormyKids get brought up in "safe" bubbles and don't learn about anything.  It creates a society of easily manipulated people.
23:40.48WormyAnd it kills fun
23:40.52MonetIf any of you watch Big Bang Theory I think Sheldon is an example of a parent brought up by do-gooders.
23:41.03GreatDestroyer12because its a society in which people are brought up in a controlled environment and to think everything is fair
23:41.20GreatDestroyer12but when they get exposed to the real world, shit happens when they find out it's not
23:41.35MonetIn other words I think they do more harm tha ngood, like the so-called protagonists from Jurassic Park 2.
23:42.12GreatDestroyer12i just realized that puking put economist as an archetype on one of her links
23:42.20GreatDestroyer12Milton Friedman is crying right now
23:42.55IrskAndroidIf I were to raise children I'd be kind to them and let them have freedom of choice
23:43.00XhoYes.
23:43.10WormyA dictatorship is never created, all it requires is a population to gullible or frightened to let it happen, and a few people who would aid the dictatorship for personal gain.
23:43.15Wormy*too
23:43.26LotGIf I were to raise children, I'd have them be taught stuff early
23:43.44IrskAndroidThat too :P
23:44.15GreatDestroyer12but kids now are fools in bubbles
23:44.34Reebutt17OperationMarines thinks PukingRainbow is a guy XD
23:44.37Reebutt17oops
23:44.38Reebutt17oh crap
23:44.42Reebutt17kill me for using a smiley
23:44.44WormyI'd woudn't press anything on my kids, I'd let the make their own minds up, but an objective, open minded one.  I'd show them there is much more to the world.
23:44.45Reebutt17KILL ME NOW
23:44.46XhoOperationMarines is irritating as well
23:44.56Xhorips Reebutt17's jugular off
23:45.01Reebutt17Thank you
23:45.04Reebutt17dies
23:45.25GreatDestroyer12* GD12 pours gasoline down the hole and burns it
23:45.34XhoIf you don't like smileys you might need to check your User Relations page
23:45.37XhoYou use :/ in it
23:45.42IrskAndroidOperation Marines - OMG IM HATED ON THIS WIKI FOR STOOF I DID, HOW MEAN I CONDEM THIS WIKI
23:46.03Ded17Xho: Indeed. Those were relics from a past age in which I used them.
23:46.22Ded17Time to dispose of them, for they are relics that bring no value anymore.
23:46.29XhoAlright imma go
23:46.36XhoHad enough of your faces for one night
23:46.38IrskAndroidBye xhoddie
23:46.43GreatDestroyer12bye Xhodocto
23:46.49Xhorips his head off and throws it at Irsk at light speed
23:47.00LotGCya Xho
23:47.02XhoNever use Xhoddie
23:47.04XhoIt is a pet hate
23:47.20IrskAndroid*Xho pwned Irskaad's head for 250 gold!
23:49.10GreatDestroyer12who is OperationMarines?
23:49.28Ded17A guy who hasn't done much on the Wiki yet
23:49.52Ded17made a few blogs though which got messed up by a n00b named Spartian300
23:50.01GreatDestroyer12haha
23:50.27GreatDestroyer12hmmm im contemplating whether to join Irskaad and the heretics
23:50.31Ded17imho he acts like he is oblivious to the reputation and position of users on the wiki.
23:50.38GreatDestroyer12ok
23:50.41Ded17(OperationMarines that is)
23:51.31OluapPlayerhttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120522012013/spore/images/archive/f/fb/20120615235102!Murglbrg.png Before
23:51.34OluapPlayerhttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fb/Murglbrg.png After
23:52.07GreatDestroyer12hmm i wonder where i should take my Drakodominatus in foregin relations
23:52.27Ded17GODDAMN PEOPLE MAKING CLANKING METAL NOISES OUTSIDE BY BEATING METAL BARS WITH METAL WRENCHES HNNNNNGHHHHHH
23:52.37Ded17gets revived by the disturbing noise outside of his room
23:53.34Reebutt17OH GOD THE TORTURE... THAT... NOISE...
23:53.45GreatDestroyer12because i really want to get my guys into a war, it gets boring after your last genocide on a noob species
23:53.52GreatDestroyer12any ideas guys?
23:54.08OluapPlayermeh, back to ME 2
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23:55.33Wormyhello
23:55.39Jovar1hai
23:55.49GreatDestroyer12hello
23:56.01Reebutt17Dammit my fan is set to 1 but is still Arctic cold right now.
23:56.04Reebutt17shivers
23:56.09Reebutt17anyways... hi Jovar
23:56.34Jovar1Hey R17
23:56.43Reebutt17Yes?
23:57.03Jovar1I was just saying hey...
23:57.22Reebutt17Okay then
23:58.48GreatDestroyer12guys, out of curiosity, which captain is the best fighter in the fiction universe?
23:58.59Reebutt17Earplugs make outside noise more tolerable
23:59.36LotGThat would either be Kilnok, Tyraz, Arsac, Hachi, or some other dudes
23:59.49GreatDestroyer12i see

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