IRC log for #sporewiki on 20120515

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05:05.12*** join/#sporewiki Shalonar (~MindScrew@host-24-152-66-217.spbmts.ru)
05:05.18ShalonarTYBUSEN
05:05.25ShalonarI WILL FIND YOU
05:06.29ShalonarOh and hello
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19:02.05Ghelae~hello
19:02.05infobotHowdy Bub
19:02.09Catface~hi
19:02.09infobothello, catface
19:02.09Ghelae~how are you?
19:02.09infobotGhelae: pretty good. how about you?
19:02.13*** mode/#sporewiki [+v infobot] by OluapWorker
19:02.13Ghelae~fine
19:02.13infobotAlrighty then =)
19:02.20Xho~kill OluapPlayer
19:02.20infobotACTION shoots a hyper-charged pseudoneutron gun at OluapPlayer
19:02.27OluapWorkernu
19:02.31OluapWorker~pet Xho
19:02.32infobotACTION reaches over and pets Xho on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!"
19:02.34CatfaceXho I'm happy.
19:02.46XhoI'm afraid to ask why
19:03.13CatfaceIts something that you 'might' be happy about too.
19:03.21MonetAccording to the wiki for the upcomig game, the Templars and the Illuminati will be enemies, with the Templars being the "honourable knight" type they were in the middle ages.
19:03.30XhoYou got a guitar?
19:03.45CatfaceNo. But its related to guitars in many ways.
19:03.50MonetIn other words, pass me the cross!
19:04.07XhoYou smashed your friend's guitar?
19:04.13CatfaceNope.
19:04.17XhoHm
19:04.20XhoWhat is it then
19:04.41CatfaceWhat would you say if I said traditional heavy metal was coming back?
19:04.50XhoO RLY
19:04.54XhoIn what form
19:05.34CatfaceIn the form of the NWOTHM movement.
19:06.01ImperiosI would like this
19:07.23CatfaceScreamer http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=MPfIbuQEbdc
19:09.52CatfaceWhite Wizzard is a bigger name http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PmKhxkQMDc
19:10.12XhoJeezus
19:10.19XhoA custom shop guitar I could order
19:10.26Xho£2939
19:10.29Xho$4710
19:11.08CatfaceBest start saving.
19:11.16CatfaceAlso I'm makinga battle jacket.
19:11.49Xhohttp://images.jacksonguitars.com/community/guitarbuilder/1779457_f0c4cec240f0b66d596741899db41f45.png That's what it looks like
19:12.14CatfacePretty nice.
19:12.15ImperiosDelegation meant to unite Andromeda is led by Lezia's apprentice
19:12.21ImperiosWho knows will it succeed
19:13.04XhoThe humbucker variant is the same price
19:13.23CatfaceWho here thinks KISS is one of the most overrated bands ever?
19:14.02XhoSí
19:14.12OluapWorkerNever heard any of their songs
19:14.23OluapWorkerI barely hear any songs at all anyway
19:15.04OluapWorkerhttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/238/649/3e8.jpg
19:15.26Monethttp://crygaia.net/w/images/f/f6/London.jpg when do you tihnk this concept art was set? It is in London btw.
19:15.29CatfaceThey don't right that good lyrics and they aren't that good musicly. The only thing they have going for them is there makeup.
19:16.24CatfaceXho: http://www.zikinf.com/_gfx/matos/dyn/large/b-c-rich-assassin-px3t.jpg
19:16.33XhoNice
19:16.50XhoI'm not necessarily a fan of Floyd Roses but give that a Satin Black finish and there we go
19:17.12OluapWorkerhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/278/039/c18.jpg This is fairly common
19:17.25MonetLondon is something of a mixed city. there's lots of old and lots of new so I'm sure it would be hard to tell. The 'post office' sign is bang-on though.
19:23.02PootiskaadOh boy do I have a lot of ranting time to do on The Secret World... 1. I took the personality quiz just for fun - I came across a chakra question even though I don't believe in chakras. (I got Illuminati somehow BTW)   2. You require facebook to play? FUCK YOU GAME *Burns in anger*
19:23.38*** join/#sporewiki Shalonar (~MindScrew@host-24-152-66-217.spbmts.ru)
19:23.42PootiskaadAnd that's my ranting for today ^^
19:23.54ShalonarHi people
19:24.25ShalonarWut happened
19:24.45PootiskaadHeh I ranted about a game :P
19:25.25MonetWohohoho,  *rubs hands* according to potential research, the main hub of the ingame london is based in Westminster.
19:25.54MonetI need to take that quiz
19:26.32CatfaceMonet I'm tired.
19:26.54MonetWell what am I supposed to do?
19:27.03XhoThis
19:27.12OluapWorkerhttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4176227_460s.jpg Staring Catface
19:27.15Xhobeats Catface around the head with his Nokia brick
19:27.59Catfacetakes it like a man because his bones are made out of Nokia
19:28.06MonetIrskaad: Just because you don't believe in something should not block you out of knowing about it.
19:28.26XhoOh
19:28.27XhoDamn
19:28.48XhoI think Irsk was referring to the use of Facebook
19:29.03XhoMore than the knowledge
19:29.20MonetI'm talking about his knowledge of chakras.
19:29.23XhoTo be honest I don't know much about most beliefs because I don't believe in them
19:29.46GhelaeHello.
19:29.55XhoAs for Chakra
19:29.59XhoWell I have no clue tbh
19:30.13GhelaeThat's what Google was invented for.
19:30.15XhoMost of Wormy's stuff on Elemental Energy i've been like "dur?"
19:30.31XhoActually
19:30.34XhoTo be honest
19:30.34GhelaeOr Wikipedia, if you want other people to do the hard work for you.
19:30.40OluapWorkerSame :v
19:30.42XhoI'm Dur on most things
19:30.54CatfaceNo false metal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMnGGtab8Eo#!
19:30.55dino____bye
19:31.13OluapWorkerAll I see is Mr Bean saying "Magic...snortsnort"
19:31.13OluapWorkerAnd I pretend I understand so he can be happy
19:31.53XhoI sort of understand it but understanding it fully is impossible
19:31.58XhoFor me anyway
19:31.59XhoI'm lazy :v
19:32.08GhelaeWell... Elemental Energy is, basically, magic.
19:32.16OluapWorkerI can confirm that
19:32.17CatfaceMe reading one of Wormy's stories http://catmacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/what_hell_going_on_cats.jpg
19:32.44OluapWorkerThat was my first reaction to the Xhodocto
19:32.46PootiskaadI wish I was in the hivemind...
19:33.09GhelaeAnd most of the rest of Wormy's fiction is speculative, obscure, and often mutually-incompatible theories with little basis in reality. :P
19:33.41OluapWorkerAnd it has too many fancy words
19:33.54CatfaceFancy words that make me feel small and dumb.
19:33.56OluapWorkerCaveman no like fancy words
19:34.08OluapWorkerbeats Xho's head with a club
19:34.28Catfaceeats Xho's beaten flesh
19:34.36XhoFancy words
19:34.38XhoLike?
19:34.47PootiskaadI wonder, what would happen if I came too close to an Auatorom?
19:34.56XhoIrsk
19:35.00XhoIf you know my fiction
19:35.05XhoYou can figure that out for yourself
19:35.14OluapWorkerYou die
19:35.14OluapWorkerThe end
19:35.16Pootiskaad...Nom?
19:35.35ShalonarAny contact with Xhofiction = ded
19:35.55PootiskaadAny contact with Irskfiction = ?
19:35.59CatfaceI think that you would like Iron Maiden's newest album. Its very spacerockish.
19:36.02PootiskaadIt varies too much
19:36.12PootiskaadSo I need a neutral reaction :P
19:36.14Catface*Xho:
19:36.45XhoI c
19:36.50OluapWorker"To provide energy to the coalition, the stellar engines act like powerstations, that link to superliminal tunnels called Krasnikov tubes. Solar energy and matter from the star is streamed down these wormhole-like tunnels much like a "National grid", linking to various important systems. It is not uncommon to find Q-ball forges and Black Hole kernels, also providing the DCP with exotic matter and tremendous energy"
19:36.52OluapWorkerMe- http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/175/889/oh%20god.png
19:37.12GhelaeI've thought about it, and, based on Wormy's fiction, the SporeWikiverse model of quantum mechanics appears to be what can only be described as a Digital Local Non-Local Hidden Variables Many Worlds Copenhagen Interpretation.
19:37.17Xhohttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IAn9zzZeLyc/TfMgfbVe0DI/AAAAAAAAB1Y/hcw13yvHuLs/s1600/exploding_head_.jpg - Me
19:37.22GhelaeI can confirm that said description does objectively not make sense.
19:38.05CatfaceXho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lECrELRralg
19:39.12Xhohttp://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41041000/jpg/_41041270_fire_ap203.jpg If you see this any day you'll know who it is
19:39.34OluapWorkerIrsk after going near you?
19:39.59XhoActually it'd be me running after you
19:40.03OluapWorkereh
19:40.16OluapWorkerbeats Xho up with a fire extinguiser
19:40.32CatfaceWhy are you playing Buddhist monk?
19:40.58XhoDunnolol
19:41.20MonetI took the test Irskaad talked about, and apparently I am also Iluminati material.
19:42.08XhoWhat test is this
19:42.25Monethttp://secretwar.thesecretworld.com/
19:42.26PootiskaadMonet: HERESY
19:42.39MonetKnowledge is power.
19:42.53PootiskaadMonet: I thought you'd be dragon
19:43.00MonetPersonally I did see myself as either Dragon or Templar.
19:43.15MonetIrskaad: Because I believe in chinese tradition?
19:43.19PootiskaadYes.
19:43.42MonetI was a scientist before I was a meditator.
19:44.17OluapWorkerI'll do that test because why not
19:44.17Pootiskaadgoes back to the days before you started meditating and believing in stuff like this :P
19:44.29OluapWorkereeeh long loading time
19:44.33OluapWorkergives up
19:44.41Pootiskaad:P
19:44.50PootiskaadI would predict Illuminati
19:44.59MonetThe Illuminati in TSW see power and potential, the future is what matters and you must prepare for it.
19:45.57MonetDragon work though chaos theory - a slight ripple in the right direction can change a person's life, topple an empire, change the world.
19:46.05XhoI fall into the Dragon
19:46.28OluapWorkerSounds like work
19:46.29ShalonarLemme pass this test
19:46.41OluapWorkerIs there a sloth in this? Because i probably fall into sloth
19:46.56ShalonarDum Android
19:47.07MonetTemplars are order, Dragon are chaos and Illuminati are power.
19:49.06ShalonarDragon
19:49.11CyrannianI just destroyed a Borg Cube single-handedly
19:49.13ShalonarI would be a dragon
19:49.16ShalonarBut I would check later
19:49.24MonetPootiskaad: If you discovered this world you would think very diferently.
19:49.29ShalonarCyrannian is now officially Firraveus Carron
19:49.40PootiskaadSINDRIIIIIIIIIIIII
19:49.51ShalonarThat's Bale.
19:50.01PootiskaadI'm Chaos, but I like Tyranids too ^^
19:50.05MonetMETUL BAWKSES!
19:50.53ShalonarI'm Eldar. I am generally against the Imperium but I like IG and SoBs.
19:50.54MonetPootiskaad: There's causing chaos for randomness and then there's causing chaos to control destiny.
19:50.59ShalonarPrimarily IG
19:51.18PootiskaadChaos for randomness it is ^^ I do not believe in a preset destiny :P
19:51.21MonetAntediluvian and the Mali'Nar do the latter.
19:51.33MonetThe nyo are not Dragon.
19:51.43OluapWorkerCausing chaos for randomness = dum
19:52.20XhoI believe that one event changes the cause of every possible event in the future
19:52.31XhoOtherwise how does events happen
19:52.37Xho*how do
19:52.47MonetXho has the proper Dragon mindest.
19:52.58OluapWorkerI simply don't care for it, it's gonna happen anyway so meh
19:53.11MonetI just had a thought: Malumi'Narti.
19:53.15XhoNow matter how small the event of anything it snowballs into reality and gets bigger and bigger until an event changes the course of life itself
19:53.51ShalonarI believe in lack of belief
19:53.59GhelaeI just took the test. Apparently, I fit the Illuminati best.
19:54.20PootiskaadYay Ghel-Irsk hivemind
19:54.27GhelaeNot really. :P
19:54.39XhoI think religion and things as such are beliefs so that the course of reality continues in a similar fashion
19:54.39Shalonarsmacks Irskaad
19:54.49XhoI think authority is necessary as much as anarchism is
19:54.56ShalonarHiveminds are serious business
19:55.06GhelaeI have a feeling it was just that it had to put me in one of them, and there was a slightly greater predisposition to Illuminatiness.
19:55.30ShalonarI have to agree that there must be power, Xho
19:55.34GhelaeNo matter how great a secretive manipulator I might be.
19:55.40ShalonarAlthough I have no love of people in charge
19:55.42MonetI presume it is because Ghelae likes science and advancement. Knowledge is power am i right?
19:56.01GhelaeWell, I did pick the sciences for the last question.
19:56.02XhoWhilst Authority can grind the course of whatever to a halt
19:56.08XhoAnarchism can make it fall apart
19:56.12ShalonarYou see, for me all ways to justify authority are lies.
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19:56.42ShalonarDemocracy is an utopia that can only truly appear in  small simple communities
19:56.46Avetzanhi
19:56.52GhelaeHello.
19:56.52ShalonarHi
19:57.00GhelaeIn an ideal world, we wouldn't need authority. But we'd also have post-scarcity and FTL travel.
19:57.02PootiskaadEoH rules ^^
19:57.14ShalonarDemocracy in larger groups is a lie
19:57.15Avetzanmy ai is thought out now
19:57.34*** join/#sporewiki LotG (519f9425@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.159.148.37)
19:57.35LotGHello people.
19:57.37GhelaeHello.
19:57.39Avetzanhi
19:57.42MonetHello.
19:57.45OluapWorkerRabbit season
19:57.45GhelaeShalonar: It can also work with hive minds. :P
19:57.48ShalonarIt is the rule of orators and liars rather than rule of people
19:57.50ShalonarHi LotG
19:57.58OluapWorkeraims a shotgun at LotG
19:58.04ShalonarYou see I am dissing democracy
19:58.15LotGYou're gonna shoot me with an elephant gun?
19:58.23GhelaeIt's arguably an elected oligarchy decided by popular vote, yes.
19:58.27MonetLotG: Several of us took this test http://secretwar.thesecretworld.com/ and most of us are potential candidates for the Illuminati.
19:58.32OluapWorker's gun is now an elephant
19:58.39OluapWorkerHow inconvenient
19:58.52ShalonarElectorate can be pretty dum
19:59.04XhoI make the Xhodocto in a similar fashion - although their ultimate goal is to end the course of reality they let things just swing about like hell until something gains their interest
19:59.05ShalonarWeimar Republic. Nuff said.
20:00.14GhelaePresidential systems allow people to come to power by virtue of charisma. Parliamentary systems allow people to make stupid decisions because they think they live in a presidential system.
20:00.45MonetI think (based on WOrmy's discussions with me) that we will always be corrupt because we cannot fulyl understand the inner workings of our own system.
20:00.59ShalonarHumanity is evil to the core.
20:01.19MonetAr eEoH post-scarcity?
20:01.26GhelaeShalonar is a pessimistic cynic to the core. :P
20:01.44PootiskaadMonet: Not yet
20:01.54GhelaeRemember the phrase, "never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity"?
20:01.55PootiskaadMaybe in 500 years :P
20:02.30MonetI believe we are just innately selfish because we are not aware of society in the same way we are aware of our own bodies.
20:02.50GhelaeIrsk, I've told you, if you want a fiction that has a perfect society, the modern Milky Way Cooperative is the best place to be. :D
20:02.50ShalonarTrue.
20:03.00MonetOn an off-topic note, I remade a dead buy http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/91/MonetOnirVoxpr001.png
20:03.02PootiskaadNah
20:03.11PootiskaadEoH > Cooperative :P
20:03.28GhelaeYou know, you could build an ecumenopolis on one of those megastructures and the inhabitants wouldn't all boil to death? :P
20:03.30MonetWhy do you hate the MWC anyway?
20:04.04GhelaeSpheres are a stupid shape to build a city around; they have the smallest surface area to volume possible.
20:04.29PootiskaadMonet: Too authoritarian :P
20:04.36ShalonarLotG
20:04.43XhoToo Authoritarian
20:04.46LotGyes?
20:04.47XhoYou'd not survive in the UK
20:04.54ShalonarWhat was the name of that Zazane diplomat again
20:04.56GhelaeI think you're confusing the MWC with the DCP. :D
20:05.03OluapWorkerI don't see any authoritarian stuff in the Cooperative
20:05.13OluapWorkerThe Indocs only got good stuff from them so far
20:05.16GhelaeThe MWC is so non-authoritarian it doesn't even have a central government.
20:05.29OluapWorkerKoluap - Woo, new guns
20:05.33LotGAww crap forgot
20:05.36ShalonarIndocs are authoritarian
20:05.44GhelaeThe AIs are perfectly happy to just build stuff and let other people use them.
20:06.03LotGI'm Illuminati too
20:06.04MonetIt is a partnership/union/alliance, not an empire or anything close.
20:06.07ShalonarMake up a new name
20:06.09GhelaeOf course, at the time you made the EoH, the MWC was in a completely different state.
20:06.24OluapWorkerIf you mean the "you commit crime, you die", thing, yes they are
20:06.40Monet"the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few or the one".
20:07.04ShalonarI mean, it is not a democracy nor it is totalitarian
20:07.13Shalonar*is it
20:07.19OluapWorkerOh
20:07.22ShalonarHence, it is authoritarian
20:08.01MonetI had predicted myself a Templar.
20:08.20OluapWorkerMaryah will probably reform the Collective into a republic when she becomes ruler
20:08.25ShalonarAuthoritarian = no democracy but life is generally fine
20:08.29AvetzanI'm illuminati
20:08.34Avetzanon the quiz
20:08.35ShalonarPerhaps into a constitutional monarchy?
20:08.40ShalonarIt would make more sense
20:08.59OluapWorkerShe wouldn't like the rulers all being Dracogonarious
20:09.06MonetBut the potential of new technology and human advancement is too alluring, even if the only ones benefiting are the ones in power.
20:09.30XhoGeezus
20:09.53LotGI wanted to be Dragon
20:10.05OluapWorkerno dwagon 4 u
20:10.11MonetThen again, all tests are flawed.
20:10.45XhoAgh
20:10.49XhoFlight to Japan
20:10.54Xho6000 miles, 12 hours
20:10.57XhoFuk dis
20:11.11MonetYeah.... Dragon is based in Seoul.
20:12.47MonetI see myself as a Templar so all of you will end up hunting me down.
20:13.07OluapWorkerI would hunt you down independant of what you are :>
20:13.10LotGolol
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20:13.44GhelaeHello.
20:13.50MonetHello
20:13.53ShalonarHi
20:13.53Technobliteratorheey
20:14.02OluapWorkerhi
20:14.08Technobliteratorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6txmM8M9Iw&feature=youtu.be LMFAO
20:14.19MonetThe one drawback for some: You need teh facebook.
20:15.39MonetI hear they are being ambitious though, mixing ingame lore with real lore. You can use a genuine website to help you progress in the game.
20:15.45OluapWorkerTeachers are like clouds. When they are gone, the day becomes beautiful
20:16.10TechnobliteratorLOL
20:16.49XhoCan't deal with 12 hour flights let alone 2
20:16.52ShalonarHur
20:17.57Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582004_355176044544366_245932432135395_957986_512690485_n.jpg Como lo podemos en México
20:18.14TechnobliteratorLOL
20:18.38LotGXDD
20:19.01OluapWorkerAyyyy siiiiiiiiiiii
20:19.26PootiskaadAny Portugal + Brazil memes?
20:19.30Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Oniron_Voxis I advise people keep an eye on this one.
20:19.31TechnobliteratorXho: remember that shit song you shwed us the other idea?
20:19.43XhoRegrettably yes
20:19.57Technobliteratorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6txmM8M9Iw&feature=watch_response_rev parodied by KOA
20:20.06XhoPootiskaad: Portugal no one knows about and most Brazilian memes would have to do with the Samba dancers
20:20.07Pootiskaad2nd house war - I wish the Khaxvis had won
20:20.15XhoOh I saw that
20:20.25PootiskaadNo-one, but we're a country 3:
20:20.33Technobliteratorit's so funny
20:20.35XhoYeah but no one knows about Portugal
20:20.54OluapWorkerThe internet doesn't like Brazil
20:20.54XhoThe only time Portugal came up in the recent years is the Euro-crisis and that missing girl
20:20.58MonetIrskaad: if they did they would have continued ignoring the bounties of geneti engineering and cybernetics.
20:21.04Monetgenetic*
20:21.10OluapWorkerAnd brazillians in general are all seen as idiots
20:21.20ShalonarSame with Russia
20:21.28MonetIdiots who are great at foorball.
20:21.32Monetfootball*
20:21.42LotGIndeed
20:21.46XhoInternet paints everyone in a bad light
20:22.11OluapWorkerThere are stereotypes
20:22.11XhoEspecially the Germans
20:22.28OluapWorkerBrazilian stereotype: numbnut who's only capable of saying "huehuehuehuehuehuehue"
20:22.32PootiskaadMonet: And?
20:22.49MonetAnd they'd just be grumpy draconis.
20:22.52OluapWorkerIf a meme gets into the hands of a brazilian, it automatically becomes unfunny
20:23.21Pootiskaadputs nyan cat in the hands of brazil
20:23.21MonetDo you even care how they siezed power in the first place?
20:23.40GhelaePootiskaad: You'd prefer technological stagnancy just as long as there's a change in the family to which the rulers belong, even though it's still basically a dictatorship?
20:23.41PootiskaadUhhhh fair and honest election? *derp face*
20:23.53OluapWorkerGood job Irsk, you murdered Nyan Cat
20:23.56XhoSamba Nyan Cat
20:23.57PootiskaadGhelae: I thought Khaxvis were the innovators?
20:24.09GhelaeOluapWorker: Someone needed to do it.
20:24.19OluapWorkerNo
20:24.26Ghelae:P
20:24.43MonetThey assassinated the last paragon, bribed and influenced the senate so they would be next in line and then proceeded to turn the Imperium into a new-age Klingon Empire.
20:24.45PootiskaadSamba! *Dances in the carnival in Bahia* :P
20:25.07Pootiskaad... Klingons are awesome
20:25.11GhelaePootiskaad: I'm guessing Monet's comment about "they would have continued ignoring the bounties of genetic engineering and cybernetics" was saying the opposite to that.
20:25.13OluapWorkerThe end
20:25.14OluapWorkerhttp://forgifs.com/gallery/d/201088-1/Driving-sofa-chair-haters.gif
20:25.15MonetAnd the Ultanos members they didn't kill? Were locked away in some unknown moon for a few millennnia.
20:25.18OluapWorkerAnd then you get robbed
20:25.35Pootiskaad:_(
20:25.48GhelaePootiskaad: Monet meant the non-awesome parts of the Klingons. :P
20:26.02Pootiskaadintroduces innovation to the new age Khaxvis Imperium
20:26.15Pootiskaadas well as a Parliamentary republic
20:26.25XhoParlimentary republics are dum
20:26.37PootiskaadWe have one :P
20:26.39XhoAs much as I think 'Anything goes' applies
20:26.45XhoParliament is dum
20:26.48XhoWe have one as well
20:26.52XhoLook where that's getting us
20:26.56MonetImposter-era Imperium: Big military buildup, emphasis on martial prowess, more militarisation. They were gearing up to expand by conquest basically.
20:26.58GhelaeI think I commented on parliamentary republics earlier...
20:27.03PootiskaadI thought UK was a monarchy
20:27.08XhoNope
20:27.11XhoWell
20:27.11GhelaeThe monarch doesn't hold any real power.
20:27.12XhoIt is
20:27.21GhelaeIt's a constitutional monarchy.
20:27.29XhoPrime Minister = Head of Government
20:27.34XhoQueen = Head of State
20:27.45XhoI think in Portugal the Prime Minister is both
20:27.53XhoSame with the President in the USA
20:27.58OluapWorkerThe queen is there because having a queen makes them different
20:28.04PootiskaadMonet: What would happen if I introduced these things?    Xho: We have a President who is the head of state
20:28.11XhoOur constitution is stupid though
20:28.12PootiskaadOluap: lol
20:28.21XhoNo one knows what it is because it isn't written up
20:28.21GhelaeI can remember in the last general election, a lot of people seemed to think that they were supposed to be voting for the prime minister, which isn't how a parliamentary republic works.
20:29.03MonetPootiskaad: There is innovation in the Imperium, they just steered away from GM draconis and wiring up said aliens with cybernetics.
20:29.58MonetIn other words you have been misinformed.
20:30.00Pootiskaadintroduces that - "Screw Drakon :D"
20:30.20Ghelae*Pootiskaad is shot by angry Khaxvis*
20:30.49MonetPootiskaad: That only happened because of losing the second house war and being descended by Tyraz.
20:31.13MonetUntil the latter point there was still belief in Drakon.
20:32.28MonetBasically, like all religious sects that have ever existed: They had a diferent Idea of what their faith meant by this or that.
20:33.44PootiskaadLemme make an experiment: A Republic of the Draconis - An innovative, liberal Republic with a secular government and EoH-like freedoms - With the Draconis themselves with their same mindsets. How would that go?
20:34.25MonetThe Imperium is mainly run by the senate anyway.
20:34.31GhelaeDon't the EoH's freedoms involve a licence to burn down forests and a ban against gardening? :P
20:34.34XhoMeh
20:34.38XhoJust throw in the Kicath
20:34.44PootiskaadEoH doesn't ban gardening
20:34.45TechnobliteratorYODO
20:34.48Technobliteratoryou only die once!
20:34.55XhoHyper-authoritative militaristic imperial rule
20:34.57GhelaeOkay, they're not that anti-environmentalist.
20:35.12XhoTechnobliterator: I hate that YOLO saying
20:35.21Technobliteratortrust me
20:35.22XhoFUCKING. HATE IT .
20:35.34Technobliteratorpisses me off
20:35.39Technobliteratorwasn't it drake who started it?
20:35.40MonetAlso, look at the Royal Academy: No religious science here.
20:35.50PootiskaadMonet: But still, that experiment, how would that turn out? :P
20:35.52XhoAnyway the Kicath have a hyper-authoritative militaristic imperial rule
20:35.58XhoPolitical freedoms are alright
20:36.07XhoBut imperial guard are bloody everywhere
20:36.51PootiskaadSo If I walk in the middle of the road with no sidewalk I get shot?
20:36.57MonetPootiskaad: I'm breaking down what won't be affected. ALso look at Morphis Rising: They are experimenting with nanotech and the only limit ot genetics is potential 'super-draconis'
20:36.59XhoWell not that bad
20:37.11XhoIf you go into protected areas
20:37.14XhoYeah you get shot
20:37.20Technobliteratorif you go anywhere in UNO
20:37.24Technobliteratoryou're risking your life
20:37.27XhoExecutions happen a lot in the empire
20:37.34XhoOften like what we do here
20:37.39XhoLine them up and shoot them
20:37.40PootiskaadMonet: Yeah, my experiment liberates super-draconis genetics :D
20:37.42Technobliteratorcrime rates are higher than anywhere else in that Borealis Arm
20:37.54Technobliteratoryu'll often get beat to death by Loron, and sometimes shot
20:37.56XhoKicathian crime rates are immensely low
20:37.57Pootiskaadbans crime
20:38.01LotGCrime rate is quite low in Brood
20:38.10Technobliteratorbans crime where
20:38.10XhoYou can ban crime
20:38.14Xho*cannot
20:38.17PootiskaadUNO Jo
20:38.20XhoCrime = breaking the rules
20:38.21GhelaeCrime is, by definition, banned.
20:38.21Technobliteratorcrime is ALREADY banned...otherwise it wouldn't be crime
20:38.22Technobliteratorduh
20:38.25Technobliterator\:P
20:38.28PootiskaadLol
20:38.33LotGWell, I say that, and then people count how many rebellions there have been
20:38.33OluapWorkerThere is no crime in the Indocs :v
20:38.36TechnobliteratorBut no, UNO actually *cause* the crime in Borealis
20:38.45XhoKicathian crime rates are immensely low generally because capital punishment is used very freely
20:38.48MonetCrime is the act of breaking the law. Cime in-and-of-itself is banned.
20:38.50OluapWorkerYou mean in a little part of it
20:39.05TechnobliteratorThey allow it and the government are the only reason The System haven'tsurpressed it yet
20:39.07XhoThe Kicathian Empire would find it difficult to get used to less authority
20:39.08Technobliteratorno...sorry not borealis
20:39.13PootiskaadI'd be scared of going to the Indoc and Kicath empires :P
20:39.14TechnobliteratorThey cause crime in UNO territory
20:39.32XhoGenerally the Kicath Empire is alright
20:39.38OluapWorkerYou have no reason to be scared of Indoc territory as long as you stay in line
20:39.41XhoBut most punishments are death
20:39.47GhelaeOddly enough, despite how it was often viewed, the Tokzhalan Empire seems to have been one of the most free nations in Gigaquadrantic history. It was even more free than the Girdo Empire, but to be fair, that was only because they allowed non-Taukappans to be elected Emperor.
20:39.51TechnobliteratorThe government cause and allow crime so that their citizens are made to be more tough and prepared
20:39.53OluapWorkerThe Indoc's only punishment for crime is death
20:39.56MonetAnd as I recall Indoc space is very nice.
20:39.58ShalonarUNOL are dicks
20:40.05OluapWorkerUnless the criminal comes from an allied empire
20:40.07TechnobliteratorUNO's punishment for crime is a salary :>
20:40.07PootiskaadYeah, but what if I download something illegal by accident in the IndCol?
20:40.10OluapWorkerThen the criminal is deported
20:40.12XhoIt's either - Imprisonment, Enslavement or Death
20:40.22XhoHur foreign or not
20:40.25XhoKicath will execute you
20:40.27TechnobliteratorHowever you contribute to society you get paid for how much you do
20:40.32ShalonarI can see their reasons though
20:40.32Shalonarhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Andromeda_War/The_Darkest_Hour#The_Flight_of_Unity
20:40.32ShalonarBTW
20:40.34OluapWorkerBecause of how the society works
20:40.40ShalonarRead that chapter, I tried to use different size there
20:40.42Shalonarhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Andromeda_War/The_Darkest_Hour#The_Flight_of_Unity
20:40.46TechnobliteratorCausing crime that way is, be UNO's definition, contributing to society
20:40.49OluapWorkerThere are no illegal things in Indoc "internet"
20:40.59Technobliteratorand thus yu get paidto be a full time criminal in UNO
20:41.16PootiskaadMonet: So what would change in my experiment?
20:41.19XhoKicath have sort of lightened their laws in a sense that interrogation and torture is becoming more common and death becoming less common
20:41.27GhelaeAlthough, the Girdo and Tokzhalan Imperial punishment for crime, I suppose, would have been forceful mind control, considering that's what Girdo tried on Emperor Tokzhalat. Failing that, death.
20:42.03Technobliteratorhur UNO already have forceful mind control on citizens by default
20:42.04XhoUnless the Kicath take more suppression-based punishments and lobotomize a criminal
20:42.10OluapWorkerBut now if you check the Indoc territory, the crime rate of the entire empire is 0
20:42.18MonetWell, Many marines and nobles would become a 'genetic elite' and I am not entirely aware of EoH freedoms.
20:42.31XhoBecause of the extreme laws and punishments
20:42.33GhelaeSo maybe the Empire's weren't that free. But since crime would only come about due to some rare situation resulting in disconnection from the group mind, it's not something that they were used to dealing with.
20:42.38GhelaeEmpires*
20:42.40XhoThe only real criminals you will find are terrorists
20:42.53TechnobliteratorOluapWorker: amirite in thinking that's because the citizens all carry guns and can shoot criminals by free will?
20:42.53ShalonarOkay, nobody cares about my chapter so meh
20:43.00OluapWorkerYes
20:43.00GhelaeIn fact, I think Tokzhalat may have been the only recorded case since the invention of writing.
20:43.08Technobliteratorthe only problem with carrying guns is, wouldn't they get used on you?
20:43.11XhoBecause of the huge scouting drones often patrolling Kicathian metropolis you'll find that terrorists don't get fire
20:43.11ShalonarNobody cares
20:43.12MonetShalonar: I'm reading
20:43.16Shalonarthx
20:43.19PootiskaadMonet: I can't list everything out lol
20:43.20Xho*far
20:43.21Xhoeven
20:43.22Technobliteratoruh imp i was reading it
20:43.28Technobliteratorwe're having a discussion
20:43.33GhelaeShalonar: Yes, it takes time for us to read. Especially when we're talking here as well. :P
20:43.33OluapWorkerIf a citizen randomly shot another, guards would shoot them right after
20:43.42ShalonarIt's just like nobody reacts
20:43.46MonetEoH freedoms = your desired freedoms right?
20:43.51ShalonarWhat about stealing, Xho?
20:43.53Technobliteratoroh
20:43.57OluapWorkerIf you start moaning then I won't read it
20:43.58XhoTheft = Death
20:43.59PootiskaadWhat if one's immortal in the Indoc?   And yes Monet
20:44.02ShalonarJaywalking?
20:44.09XhoDepends on the theft really
20:44.13ShalonarOluapWorker: Ok
20:44.14OluapWorkerThere are no immortals in the Indoc, except Macin Xermilin
20:44.19XhoPetty theft you're look at getting your hands lopped off
20:44.23XhoBigger ones
20:44.26XhoDefinitely death
20:44.33ShalonarOkay, it happened once
20:44.49TechnobliteratorI was gonna suggest a nanomachine thing with the Indocs just there but you'll probably reject itbecause it's nanomachiens...
20:44.50OluapWorkerAnd she's not even an official citizen
20:44.52XhoAnd because of cybernetics becoming more common in the empire, the punishments are getting worse for petty theft
20:44.59OluapWorkerNo I don't want nanomachines
20:45.02PootiskaadOluap: It's an example, imagine if a descended indoc individual started wreaking havoc
20:45.02ShalonarI accidentally stole some stuff in a Spanish shop
20:45.02Technobliterator.
20:45.20OluapWorkerPootiskaad: Macin or Thea'Nhirara would go there and destroy him
20:45.22ShalonarI just found some stuff in a shop intending to buy it
20:45.28ShalonarThen forgot to pay
20:45.44XhoJaywalking = Imprisonment
20:45.45ShalonarAnd when I realised that I was already in Russia
20:45.47XhoWell
20:45.47PootiskaadPoor Impy :(
20:45.48Technobliteratorthe idea was, they would be id-locked so only one person could use themn, and if someone wanted to fire on someone else who wasn't a criminal, the guns would lock-out so the person can't use them to fire on another citizne
20:45.49XhoTo be honest
20:45.56XhoKicathian don't use roads
20:46.08ShalonarWhat would happen in Indoctrinate Collective, OluapWorker?
20:46.09XhoKicathian traffic systems happen about 2000 feet above the ground
20:46.14OluapWorkerThat's redundant, there are no criminals in Indoc society
20:46.21ShalonarSale with Radeons
20:46.25XhoOften using public travel more often
20:46.32TechnobliteratorBut it could explain why
20:46.40ShalonarOluapWorker: that's referring to who
20:46.41XhoAnd often the target of most terrorist attacks
20:46.44TechnobliteratorOh well nvm
20:46.48OluapWorkerShalonar: Jo
20:46.52XhoAverage death toll of Kicathian terrorist attacks are about 2000
20:46.59MonetTechnobliterator: SUch weapons are common amongst Imperial soldiers, security and the wealthy. Uriel has a pistol that powers down when he's not holding it.
20:47.04OluapWorkerShalonar: If you didn't pay for something you would get nagged until you paid it
20:47.22ShalonarTruly, fiction reflects the man.
20:47.27TechnobliteratorMonet: How's that done in Imperial technology?
20:47.27XhoKicath are quite liberal on taxes however
20:47.31Shalonar*creator
20:47.32OluapWorkerIf you outright stole something then you would get shot
20:47.38XhoThey have internal economy and external economies
20:47.51XhoInternal economy is basically what we have
20:47.55ShalonarTechnobliterator: Your idea has flaws
20:48.06MonetTechnobliterator: genetic imprinting.
20:48.08XhoExternal economy is what the Agency/Government has around the rest of the universe
20:48.12Technobliteratoroh...genetic imprints
20:48.19ShalonarWhat about DevCho cultists?
20:48.28Technobliteratorwhat about them?
20:48.32XhoHur Cult laws
20:48.39XhoCult = Mahanayans are on top, period
20:48.49OluapWorkerChosen's only law is "Worship Shu'ulathoi or be sacrificed"
20:48.55PootiskaadMonet: What else changes?
20:49.00GhelaeSee, all these economic issues are why I just have my fictions without any real economy whatsoever. :P
20:49.01ShalonarThey just converted a dude, he tries to kill people, but nobody can kill him cos he is just converted
20:49.04OluapWorkerIf you're under their corruption you don't have any choice
20:49.05Technobliteratorbut wait monet wouldn't that mean people could still just use them on anyone they want?
20:49.07PootiskaadChosen's law = I worship Shu :D
20:49.07XhoCult's main law is 'so much as breathe wrong and you'll be part of the scenery'
20:49.10ShalonarMali'Nar law:
20:49.11TechnobliteratorShalonar: eh
20:49.14Technobliteratoris confused
20:49.22XhoCult often do what the Xhodocto once did
20:49.32XhoLeave you to rot on your own buildings
20:49.37ShalonarMali'Nar law: ASDAFSDAFSDFSSFADFSDFSDFDDSSDDSAASSSADFSSDFFFSDFDSDS
20:49.41OluapWorkerdum
20:49.43XhoHanged and often disemboweled
20:49.52Technobliteratorhow is this a flaw in my idea
20:50.00MonetYour  DNA is logged int oa chip, and the handle scans the skin for a matching genetic code. No match, no working gun.
20:50.10ShalonarHow is the gun supposed to know who is the criminal, Technobliterator
20:50.20ShalonarDatabases cannot change that fast
20:50.23OluapWorkerNANOMASHEENZ
20:50.24XhoXhodocto law: 'We're right, everyone else is also right'
20:50.27Technobliteratordidn't i say it was nanomachines
20:50.31TechnobliteratorNANOMASHEENZ
20:50.34TechnobliteratorHUR IMMA SAY THAT NOW
20:50.38TechnobliteratorWell basically Imp
20:50.44Xho'Except for the Asgord they're always wrong'
20:50.45OluapWorkerWait what
20:50.55OluapWorkerSo Xhodocto are the most liberal people of all
20:50.57ShalonarCult hides, then attacks en masse, hur Dur dur
20:51.00TechnobliteratorAll the informaton of evbery individiual, their curent intentions, their frame of mind is all collected by UNO's AI core
20:51.03XhoWell
20:51.12PootiskaadFRA's only punishment for crimes: Circus
20:51.15ShalonarI am talking about Indoc
20:51.15XhoXhodocto are liberal in the sense that they're like the Demoman of the universe
20:51.24XhoThey get drunk and fall asleep
20:51.28OluapWorkerlol
20:51.32XhoPretty much the equivalent of what they do
20:51.35TechnobliteratorIf someone tries to fire on someone that the database does not recognise as an enemy, then the gun will be shut down
20:51.38GhelaePootiskaad: FRA have crimes?
20:51.44OluapWorkerThen the Soldier aka Ravenrii come in and start calling them maggots
20:51.45TechnobliteratorAs for Indocs, they don't need an AI core to do this
20:52.01OluapWorkerBut the Demoman blows him up anyway
20:52.02XhoWell Xhodocto are a bunch of Monoculus-es
20:52.04ShalonarThing is, as I said
20:52.20ShalonarCultists could hide and not be recognised as criminals
20:52.26OluapWorkerThey can't hide
20:52.28Technobliteratorno they couldn't
20:52.35ShalonarA sudden attack will shut down the weapons
20:52.36XhoCultists are gigaquadrantic terrorists
20:52.39Technobliteratornope
20:52.41OluapWorkerIf you're corrupted by the Chosen your appearence changes
20:52.42ShalonarOkay, criminals
20:52.42Technobliteratornot possible
20:52.44Shalonardunno
20:52.50TechnobliteratorThe nanomachines can already detect the movement of nerves
20:52.57XhoThe Cult especially
20:53.00ShalonarDat totalitarian
20:53.02GhelaeOluapWorker: To be fair, that's a huge flaw in the Chosen's strategies. :P
20:53.08TechnobliteratorThey'll be able to detect if someone wants to fight and shut down the weapon way faster
20:53.18OluapWorkerhttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110904200048/spore/images/8/8a/Dark_Dracogonarious.png You can't really blend in the population with this appearence
20:53.20XhoCult = Random assault of 6 Xhodocto ships which fuck everything over
20:53.27TechnobliteratorAlso, if someone's being controlled by th Chosen...obviously the NANOMASHEENZ detect it
20:53.28ShalonarAh
20:53.45XhoOnly takes 6 Xhodocto ships usually
20:53.54XhoUnless you take a Rapture or Excavator then it's only 1
20:54.10TechnobliteratorUNO really are the most controlling, totalitarian empire that I own
20:54.10OluapWorkerJunction Planet Fortress - Come at me bro
20:54.26ShalonarMali'Nar cultists tend to blend with normal people
20:54.38TechnobliteratorBut they are also very liberal. People are allowed to do whatever they want as the nanomachines will stop them from wanting to do something that is wrong
20:54.49LotGExcept Mali'Zane
20:54.49ShalonarThey are surprisingly subtle for those who serve the gods of madness
20:54.52OluapWorkerIndocs do the right thing out of culture
20:54.53LotGThey crazy
20:54.57Technobliteratorie it can stop the taste of drugs from being good, stop endorphins being released at times, etc....
20:54.59OluapWorkernot manipulation
20:55.10XhoConstruct -021 hur
20:55.13Technobliteratordum I'm going against what Oluap told me earlier
20:55.25XhoThat thing was eventually going to blow Ottzello up
20:55.29OluapWorkerIndocs aren't really fans of how UNO treats their citizens
20:55.42TechnobliteratorI'm not surprised
20:55.57XhoThen the Xhodocto were like 'lol' and then disabled it
20:55.58LotGYet the Indocs like Brood
20:56.09OluapWorkerIndocs like Brood because Brood helped them
20:56.27TechnobliteratorIndocs like UNO
20:56.30OluapWorkerThough interaction has been low lately
20:56.35Technobliteratorbut now how their society works
20:56.37XhoKicath don't mind the Brood
20:56.42ShalonarOkay, people
20:56.42XhoBut Kithworto and Tyraz
20:56.53ShalonarWhat about my section?
20:57.01OluapWorkerI'll onyl read it later
20:57.03ShalonarApparently I sent it in the wrong time
20:57.08GhelaeTechnobliterator: It's not really liberal when people are forced into doing things (or not doing things), however it's done. You could just as easily apply those nanomachines to "stop opposing political views from feeling like they make sense, make mass suicide in the name of an evil death god sound like a really good idea..."
20:57.14ShalonarOluapWorker: y
20:57.24OluapWorkerBecause I'm still talking here
20:57.26GhelaeNot that the Girdo and Tokzhalan group minds were much better, I suppose. :P
20:57.51GhelaeBut at least, for the Taukappans, it evolved naturally. :D
20:57.57TechnobliteratorGhelae: It's not in that sense liberal no, but the UNOcitizens enjoy their lives aside from the crime in it
20:58.25XhoConstruct -021 = Ultra-powerful blasting weapon of doom as well as a station for creating Xhodocto weapons
20:58.27GhelaeIt's better than coercion, I suppose.
20:58.31OluapWorkerFre'kloar - MA EMPIYAS BETTA BOYZ CAN DO WATEVA DEY WANT WIVOUT HAVIN NO PEPPA PEEPUL MANIPULATIN DEM
20:58.34XhoExodus = Blagh no one knows
20:58.54XhoGotta go now
20:59.02GhelaeBut you'd think there were better ways of toughening up the population than crime, especially when you have access to nanomachines that can rewrite both minds and physiologies.
20:59.12ShalonarI remember all huge SHODDIE constructs
20:59.19TechnobliteratorZr'Ahgloth - SHUT UP YOR EMPIYA IS FULL OF PEEPL SHANKIN EECH OTHA
20:59.26PootiskaadXHODDIE*
20:59.41LotGTyraz - My empire is filled with many honourable soldiers.
21:00.02OluapWorkerFre'kloar - YEH LIEK HOW TROO LORONZ IS SUPPOSED TA ACT. NOT LIKE YOR EMPIYA I BET YOR LORONZ LIKE TA DRINK TEA AN CRUMPETZ HURHUR
21:00.13ShalonarUltimatum -> Soul Harvester -> Madum'kaduur -> Fear -> Exodus
21:00.20MonetUriel - Honour is one thing, but bravery and strategy is another.
21:00.46LotGTyraz - My people have all three, as does yours.
21:01.25ShalonarMatheoward - *nods*
21:01.25OluapWorkerFre'kloar - zazanes dum
21:01.25MonetUriel - Indeed, Tyraz.
21:01.30TechnobliteratorZr'Ahgloth - TEA AN CRUMPETTZ? WAS DAT
21:01.32ShalonarI wonder do ur fiction drink alcohol or something similar
21:01.32Technobliterator*WATS DAT
21:01.35LotGTyraz - I, however...I am eternally dishonoured, and for as long as I live, I will fight to redeem myself.
21:01.40Technobliteratoryes
21:01.43OluapWorkerFre'kloar - DUM FOOD WHICH YOO EET
21:01.45LotGZazane actually have no real alcohol
21:01.47ShalonarOr smoke stuff
21:02.02ShalonarRadeons rarely ever drink ANYTHING
21:02.05OluapWorkerKoluap - Cool story.
21:02.23MonetDraconis have wine, lots of strong wine.
21:02.24ShalonarBut I stated in fiction a long ago that they smoke some stuff
21:02.30LotGWell, Wrathborne Creed drink Zakuin, which is an incredibly strong alcohol
21:02.31Technobliterator|Zr'Ahgloth - we hav betta pizza cos we hav NANOMASHEENZ MAKIN OUR FOOD IDIOT
21:02.42ShalonarLike cannabis or sumfink
21:02.51OluapWorkerShalonar: Section is good
21:02.55TechnobliteratorLoron will have cannabis, heroin and the like
21:03.01ShalonarThanks
21:03.23OluapWorkerFre'kloar - YOO POOT YOR DUM GIZMOS IN YA FOOD? OH MA DAYZ MAN HOW UNLORONLY YOO IS
21:04.35TechnobliteratorZr'Ahgloth - NO DEY MAEK DA FOOD YA IDIOT hur jus kidin we dunt use nanomasheenz in food but WE USE SOM MATTA...CONVERTIN...FINGY DAT I DUNT UNDASTAND
21:05.02OluapWorkerFre'kloar - DATS DUM. IN MA EMPIYA WE USE TROO PIZZA INGREDIENTS LIEK HOW ITS SUPPOSED TA B
21:05.14MonetUriel - Loron, they are strong but hardly masters of war, for it is an artform.
21:05.29OluapWorkerFre'kloar - SHUT UP MAN IM A MASTA OF WAR
21:05.32TechnobliteratorZr'Ahgloth - AN YOR IMPLYIN WE DUNT KNO ABOUT DAT ARTFORM?!?!?!?!
21:05.45ShalonarA stuff you never knew
21:05.52ShalonarRadeons aren't really rats
21:06.01LotGTyraz - On the contrary, Loron have proved themselves to be quite the endurable fighters.
21:06.03ShalonarThey are closer to jerboas
21:06.18TechnobliteratorZr'Ahgloth - ENNIT DIS TYRAZ KID HAS SENS
21:06.21LotGTyraz - I have....some respect for them, they have proven a challenge for my Zazane soldiers in the past.
21:06.23OluapWorkerFre'kloar - CEPT HES DUM
21:06.42TechnobliteratorZr'Ahgloth - YA MOMS DUM
21:06.48Technobliteratorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00KnR6CltzE&feature=relmfu omg this guy is so talented
21:06.56OluapWorkerFre'kloar - SHUT UP MAN YOO TAKE ORDAS FRUM A PEPPA AN A MIDGET
21:07.18TechnobliteratorZr'Ahgloth - I DUNT TAKE ORDAS I GIV ORDAS
21:07.51OluapWorkerFre'kloar - OH YEH IM SUR YOO DO. WATS DEYR NAMES? KRALGON EMPRAH AN TUOLOG RITE? I BET DEY MAKE YOO LIKK DA GROUND DEY WALK
21:07.52PootiskaadJo: *Looks at song - Gets bored*
21:08.21MonetWhat's wrong with it?
21:08.33Technobliteratorirsk found the song uninteresting
21:08.36Technobliteratorit's not his style
21:08.39Pootiskaad^
21:08.41MonetIMO it makes more sense than 'euphoria'.
21:08.42LotGIts not mine either
21:08.45Technobliteratornot surprised really
21:08.47PootiskaadEUPHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORIA
21:08.48Technobliteratorbut the guy is so talented
21:08.49Technobliteratoranyway
21:08.55LotGThough I do admit the guy is talented
21:09.07TechnobliteratorZr'Ahgloth - HURHUR YORE A GEEK RESERCHIN DA PEEPZ I WORK WIV. AN I GIV DEM ORDAS IDIOT...
21:09.22MonetUriel - Perhaps... But they hardly match up to our talent.
21:09.38OluapWorkerFre'kloar - IM NOT A GEEK IM JUST BETTA DAN YOO. STILL YOR A SLAVE
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21:10.02OluapWorkerFre'kloar - TALENT? SHUT UP MAN YOR STOOPID DUNT MAKE ME EET YAS
21:10.18TechnobliteratorZr'Ahgloth - IM A SLAV? SHUT UP MAN MA WHOL EMPIYA IS SLAVS I CAN DO WATEVA I WANT WIV. AN TALENT?!?!?! BLUD YOO DUNT KNO NUFFIN BOUT WAR AN WAT WAR IS.
21:10.22LotGTyraz - It would be unwise to underestimate the Loron, dear Uriel. They may seem....stupid, but really, they are more endurable then people give them credit for.
21:10.31Shalonar*slavs
21:10.33ShalonarHur
21:10.51OluapWorkerFre'kloar - YOR DEM UNOL PEEPZS SLAV
21:10.57LotGTyraz - They are like Zazane...born and bred for war.
21:11.05OluapWorkerFre'kloar - dats tru
21:11.12PootiskaadMahedore - Like any of you would match me.
21:11.14TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - WAR IS ABOUT FITIN AN KILLIN AN SMASHIN PEEPZ DAT IS YOR ENEMIES. WARS DUNT START ABOUT SOM 'ART FORM' AN WATEVA WARS START COS ONE WANTS TA KILL DA OTHA.
21:11.27TechnobliteratorZr'Ahgloth - YORE DAT DUM COLD KINGS' SLAV
21:11.43OluapWorkerFre'kloar - SHUT UP MAN HES ONLY LEEDA OF A DA COLD LORON
21:11.52OluapWorker-A
21:12.02Shalonarokay bye
21:12.07TechnobliteratorZr'Ahgloth - YEH RITE. WHAIS HE TELLIN ME YORE HIS BODYGARD
21:12.15OluapWorkerFre'kloar - CUS HES STOOPID
21:12.24TechnobliteratorZr'Ahgloth - SO AR YOO
21:12.35OluapWorkerHagto'Zhl - COPYCAT DUMBO YOO CANT TALK YOR A BODYGUARD FER DAT TUOLOG GEEZA
21:12.37PootiskaadMahedore - Look at you, insignificant, children compared to me. I watched all of you when your civilizations rose.
21:12.47MonetLarnus. - War is about strategy. You target what is important, destroy it and watch you enemy reel in the chaos. The art of it is not hwo to hit or howhard, but also where. Your own men must be ready to adapt to any situation.
21:12.59OluapWorkerKal'kuir - IM SMARTA DAN ALL OF YOO
21:13.51PootiskaadMahedore - You younglings amuse me.
21:13.55TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - WAR IS ABOUT WHOS DA BEST AN WHOS DA SIKKEST. STRATEGY IS ONLY ONE PART OF DAT. WARS DUNT START COS "OH IMMA PROOV I HAV MOAR STRATEGY DAN DIS GEEZA" NO DEY START BECAUSE DA TWO FAKSHONS WANNA KILL EECH OTHA
21:14.09OluapWorkerKal'kuir - GET OUTTA HEER MAHEDORE YA MUPPET NO ONE LIKES YOO
21:14.24PootiskaadMahedore - No. I think not.
21:14.49MonetLarnus - The art of Kali'Krusi swordplay is about striking your opponent in the most effective ways without expending excesses of energy, Such a for mcan apply t oa war itself.
21:15.01TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - IM WIV KAL'KUIR. AN KAL YORE WRONG IM SMARTA DAN YOO IN A LESS GEEKY WAY. wait wats da difference between smart an wise agen?
21:15.38PootiskaadMahedore - *Sigh* Swords, so outdated, yet widely used...
21:15.43OluapWorkerKal'kuir - im not relly sur but i win when it comes ta mashees an yoo win when it comes ta bein primitiv hurhurhur
21:16.13TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - EH. YA DUNT HAV TA APPLY PHYSICS AN BIOLOGY TA WAR. AT DA END OF DA DAY WAR IS FITIN AN KILLIN. DEVELOPIN ART FORMS AN STOOF IS ONE WAY OF PROVING WHOS DA BEST. ONLY ONE WAR.
21:16.15Technobliterator*WAY
21:16.37OluapWorkerKnar'gank - i like stabbin peepz. dats enuff fer me
21:16.42TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - SHUT UP KAL'KUIR I BET YA DUNT MAEK HALF OF DOES 'CALCULASHONS'
21:16.51MonetLarnus - Are swords really that outdated? Nothing cuts mor eefectively or strikes so cleanly than a finely-shaprened warblade.
21:16.54PootiskaadMahedore - You know, war comes from hate. Remove the hate and there is no war, so the idea that war is essential is 100% false.
21:16.54OluapWorkerKal'kuir - COURS I DO MAN DUNT B DUM
21:17.09LotGTyraz - Loron have their own style of war. Its called "see bad guy, smash him up",
21:17.12PootiskaadMahedore - Fission lasers must be a myth to you, Larnus.
21:17.23TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - MAHEDOR YORE SO DUM. FER ONE SWORDS ENT OUTDATED. FER TWO WAR DUNT COME FROM HATE ALL DA TIME.
21:17.24OluapWorkerFre'kloar - WE SMASH EVERYON NOT ONLY BAD GUYZ
21:17.38PootiskaadMahedore - What makes you so sure?
21:17.44MonetLarnus - I am more of a strategist than a swordmaster, but some weapons never lose style.
21:17.57TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - SWORDS IS A WEPON AT DA END OF DA DAY DERES FUTURISTIC SWORDS IDIOT DEY CAN BE MOAR EFFECTIV DAN GUNZ IN WAYZ
21:18.29OluapWorkerBrag'klogga - ASPLODIN TIME
21:18.31OluapWorkerexplodes
21:18.35TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - AN WAR IS ABOUT CNFLICTIN IDEOLOGIES AN OVA WHO IS DA SIKKEST AN TRYNA PROOV DAT. DERES SUCH A FING AS PEEPZ ON DA BATTLFEELD WHO IS FRENDS WIV EECH OTHA
21:18.38LotGTyraz - What are you gonna do when you're right up close to the enemy? Punch him with your sword?
21:18.51LotGgun*
21:18.55TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - ENNT TYRAZ
21:19.13Technobliteratorwell now oluap's gone i have full rogue boyz control
21:19.17PootiskaadMahedore - Style, irrelevant. Cold logic is favored amongst myself. I would have won this year, if it wasn't for... *Gets mindfrak from his memories of future Mahedore* WHAT HAVE I- Sorry. But what if all ideologies were the same?
21:19.39LotGTyraz - Then it would be pointless fighting for freedom.
21:19.50MonetUriel - Kali'Krusi wa still useful to me during the mecha-wasp war, against an enemy who sold their very souls for the machine.
21:19.53TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - eh? no one can eva hav da same ideologies
21:20.18PootiskaadMahedore - Freedom is obtained by wit.
21:20.33PootiskaadMahedore - In fact, a bright mind overcomes any sword or gun.
21:20.41TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - no it isnt man...yore tryna be all cleva an stuff yore not
21:20.50LotGTyraz - Aren't you a servant of Shu'Wokerama?
21:21.06TechnobliteratorGenrai Nal - He is. And he's the typically dumb one.
21:21.13PootiskaadMahedore - Why should I listen to you, your species is dumb.    And yes... yes I am.
21:21.34TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - DAT IS JUST DISMISSIN MA ARGUMENT WITHOUT TAKIN IT INTO ACCOUNT. DATS NO WAY TA WIN A DEBAT
21:22.05TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - PREJUDIC LIEK DAT IS PROPA DUM. AN IT CAN COST LIVES
21:22.15PootiskaadMahedore - Oh pardon me, I seem to have forgotten about your 6 Billion years of age, which are non-existent, General Nal. So don't try to say my brain is inferior.
21:22.24MonetLarnus - Depending on the gods, the child's answer to a problem.
21:22.31LotGTyraz - Zazane have been evolved for war and fighting, Mahedore. In fact, a Zazane can get shot and then just pump the bullet out of his own skin!
21:22.42TechnobliteratorGenrai Nal - I'm older than 6 billion years...Really, you do not want to get on my bad side.
21:23.02Technobliteratorcna they lotg?!
21:23.11Technobliteratoryu should mention this on their page
21:23.23LotGThey have regenerative abilities
21:23.35Technobliteratoryeah i knew that
21:23.35LotGThey push the bullet out as they heal
21:23.38MonetIt's part of their wolverine-esque healing factor.
21:23.40Technobliteratoroh...
21:23.42PootiskaadMahedore - You hurt me, and you have an angry master to torture you. And gods? I'm a god. Primitive civilizations think aliens are gods.
21:23.46Technobliteratori thought it would be more scientific :P
21:23.56TechnobliteratorLike, their body has some sort of air pressure
21:24.13LotGOh you mean fire bullets like a gun from their skin?
21:24.21Technobliteratorno no...
21:24.48MonetLarnus - *laughs inside*
21:24.51Technobliteratorlike, a bullet hits them, and instead of having to remove it with a knife and surgery and whatever, they use some kind of air pressume to get rid of it
21:25.05TechnobliteratorGenrai Nal - Are you talking to me?
21:25.33PootiskaadMahedore - Larnus, Drakon is similar to myself, admit it. We're both highly advanced beings. And General Nal, yes.
21:26.01MonetLarnus - You are noth ing like him though are you?
21:26.02TechnobliteratorGenrai Nal - Uh...when did I ever mention gods? And what angry master are you referring to?
21:26.30LotGTyraz - Please, the gods are my enemies. I hated my own god, and he cursed me with my powers!
21:27.00TechnobliteratorTuolog - All beliefs and religions are path to supernatural understanding of things we not able to understand otherwise. They all different forms of perception. And gods not always alies, sometimes they extradiemsnional, but perceived as a 'god' over us.
21:27.07PootiskaadMahedore - Nah Larnus. I'm superior though. And Nal, you seem to have the inability to tell who people speak to. Also, you don't know who your master is? Such wit... not.
21:27.23LotGTyraz - I will never be able to taste death in honourable battle now...I am doomed to wander this Universe for eternity.
21:27.29PootiskaadMahedore - Kamik'Shi is extradimensional.
21:27.35TechnobliteratorGenrai Nal - I know who my master is. I do not know which you are referring to, I have had many in my life.
21:27.52TechnobliteratorTuolog - He not just extradimensional. He now extra-reality.
21:28.03PootiskaadMahedore - Your latest one, genius. And Tyraz, Immortality is a new chance to enjoy your life.
21:28.26PootiskaadMahedore - Ahh yes, like 1.48 Billion years ago... Good times.
21:28.38TechnobliteratorGenrai Nal - You are referring to Shu'wokerama. But I do not understand your comments about "to torture you".
21:28.38LotGTyraz - No! Immortality is a shame upon myself! A Zazane's greatest dream is to meet his better in battle! I can never do that now!
21:29.05TechnobliteratorJol'kiar - i gotta respect dis tyraz dood hes sik
21:29.08PootiskaadMahedore - So? You can fake death. I do that to scare Ztarashrema.
21:29.22MonetUriel - *laughs*
21:29.26LotGTyraz - Fake death? Do you not understand how much I want to die for my sins?!
21:29.38PootiskaadMahedore - Sins are subjective.
21:29.45MonetUriel - The only righteous immortality is the act of being remembered.
21:29.54PootiskaadMahedore - There's an empire in andromeda where rape is legal.
21:30.34PootiskaadMahedore - And renembered... until your empire dies? That's not immortality.
21:30.36TechnobliteratorTuolog - Sins is just an opinion and a belief. Based on either laws or ones;' conscience, or the laws of a religion that people told not to break.
21:31.05MonetUriel - What of the ancient four who ruled Andromeda before the modern races?
21:31.13LotGTyraz - I have commited deeds far worse! I have killed millions of innocents because of my own insanity, and millions of the guilty out of my own rage! You tell me that I deserve to live, because I honestly hate myself for all that I have done!
21:31.24MonetUriel - They are dead but they are still remmebered.
21:31.29PootiskaadMahedore - Their memory will fade away when this universe ends...
21:31.54PootiskaadMahedore - You have people who love you despite all this, Tyraz, an Asgord and a Radeon.
21:32.32TechnobliteratorTuolog - It always be there somewhere. Other universes learn of very great things one has done. Vyro'Narza never forget.
21:33.27LotGTyraz - Hmph. Think what you like. A year of redemption does not pay off two decades of unneeded bloodshed.
21:33.36PootiskaadMahedore - Does anyone renember the Hrezi Federation? Only me and the KGGC. If we were to cease to exist as well as the Kraw Galaxy as is today, Hrezi's supposed immortality would cease.
21:33.58PootiskaadMahedore - Redemption is subjective.
21:34.29TechnobliteratorTuolog - You not understand. Only truly great things remembered. Did they do much trul;y great compared to others? I think not.
21:34.48PootiskaadMahedore - They tried to face me... But they failed.
21:34.58LotGWow
21:35.01LotGTyraz is such an emo
21:35.04LotGI just realized
21:35.55Technobliteratorlol
21:36.10TechnobliteratorTuolog - Exactly. They failed. SO they not truly remembered/
21:36.40LotGKol - Wrong, Tuolog! Great dictators of the past shall never be forgotten! *laughs*
21:37.19TechnobliteratorTuolog - No, I right. People who do something worst remembering be remembered. But the Hrezi Federation fail to do something great.
21:37.36PootiskaadMahedore - My point is, this kind of immortality is not immortality. It's just a memory, the person or people are gone. And Kol, how exactly do you want to purge everyone in the universe? The New Iteok Glory seems stronger than you.
21:38.06TechnobliteratorTuolog - Not literal immortality. Practical immortality. You not understadn this.
21:38.09LotGKol - I bring to you examples of genocide, murder, homicide, and dictatorship. They have not been forgotten. And Mahedore, the Iteok shall meet their fate at the claws of my armies.
21:38.24Pootiskaad(I realized I got away with the concept of Mahedore because he's central to KG history lol :P)
21:38.33TechnobliteratorTuolog - Because they significant things. That what I mean.
21:38.55MonetUriel 0 I have already been marked fro greatness, a mural of myself adorns a wall of the grand cathedral alongside my acnestors.
21:39.28LotGKol - Exactly! Unfortunately, nobody will be around to see when I purge the Universe of all the filthy scoundrel that plagues it with disease and crime, except for my own children!
21:39.55PootiskaadMahedore - Practical Immortality is not true immortality.    And Uriel, had you been born in just a little bit diffrent way you wouldn't be marked to greatness. So stop being arrogant.
21:40.13PootiskaadMahedore - Kol, what makes you so sure you can defeat me?
21:40.47LotGKol - Because, Mahedore, the Lord Zargoth and Lord Kolussus shall empower me when it is time to knock you from your stubborn and ignorant pedestal.
21:41.18PootiskaadMahedore - Oh no. I'm so scared. Someone help me. I'm doomed. aaah. Help.
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21:41.34LotGKol - You dare mock Lord Zargoth and Kolussus?
21:41.35Technobliteratorhey wormy
21:41.37WormyHello
21:41.39LotGHello Wormy
21:41.56TechnobliteratorZargoth - You realy should be scared if you don't know who I, or Kolossus, are. They're allied with you too...idiot.
21:42.20PootiskaadMahedore - They are irrelevant.
21:42.21LotGKol - *chuckles and folds his arms, floating into the air*
21:42.51MonetArsac - Showing off again?
21:42.59PootiskaadMahedore - Yes.
21:43.20LotGKol - Such a hypocrit, Arsac.
21:43.21PootiskaadMahedore - Face it, you'll never win, Arsac. Your ruler is arrogant and so are you.
21:43.36MonetUriel - The same could be said for any o f us.
21:44.02TechnobliteratorZargoth - I am irrelevant, am I?
21:44.05LotGHachi - *slowly wakes up from beside Arsac* Huh? Whaa?
21:44.10PootiskaadMahedore - Yes.
21:44.13MonetArsac - You, Kol act like this out of confidence. I have proven my avbility time and again.
21:44.29LotGKol - And time and time again, they did not impress me.
21:45.16MonetArsac - FUnny, you could have crushed my snout when you had the chance. But you didn't.
21:45.30Monet(forget my bit)
21:45.58Monet(actually retract that, ig ot confused at wo he was replying to)
21:46.48LotG(He was replying to Arsac)
21:46.59Monet(i realise that now)
21:47.24MonetArsac - Something was inside your head, there was something sugesting you let me live despite my insignificance.
21:48.09LotGKol - I didn't kill you simply because you're a fun toy, and I want the whole Inquisition to know that it was your fault that I now know the greatest secrets of the Imperium. *chuckles*
21:48.17PootiskaadFunny: Angazhar - "THIS COOKIE HAS TWENTY TWO CHIPS. I WANTED TWENTY ONE" Planet gets ripped in half
21:49.09MonetArsac - It must have been a challenge to overcome my defences...
21:49.20LotGKol - You'd want it to be.
21:50.22LotGHachi - Hmm? *tired* What's this about toys?
21:50.31MonetArsac -  *looks suspiciously at Kol*
21:50.58LotGKol - Hehe, hello there...rabbit.
21:51.07LotGHachi - Eeek! *hides behind Arsac*
21:51.41MonetArsac - *lifts her wing to shield Hachi*
21:51.56LotGKol - You shield that pathetic creature?
21:52.08MonetArsac - Have you two met?
21:52.44LotGKol - Hmph. I have only seen him a few times. I am a new face to him.
21:52.58LotGHachi - I-I-It's Zazane! D-Don't make me fight it!
21:53.27MonetArsac - It is my duty to protect the innocent *looks in Hachi's direction*... this one ocunts...
21:54.53LotGKol - *laughs loudly* Oh, that is so adorable! Haha! *stops suddenly* But nonetheless, both of you shall die.
21:54.58MonetArsac - There is sometihng abouthim... I feel he has potential...
21:55.37LotGKol - Potential in that thing? Its as cowardly as a mouse!
21:56.04MonetArsac - You've looked inside my head, was I any different as a child on the street?
21:56.54LotGKol - Thing is Arsac, I don't believe you have any potential, or ever did. To me, you're simply....just another stain.
21:57.34MonetArsac - Tell that to the countless cultists I have slain.
21:59.14LotGKol - You have made my goal somewhat easier in that sense. Who knows? Maybe I'll spare you, just to have you live with the fact that you could do nothing to prevent your race and your friends from being devoured by my massive armies of my own creation.
22:00.14MonetArsac - Consumed? Have you no sense of honour or- *pauses* You don't.
22:01.37LotGKol - Honour is only a restriction, Arsac. It makes you fight by the rules. When you're a being like me, which you're not, you are not bound by rules or laws of morality.
22:01.51PootiskaadIteok - ^
22:02.19MonetArsac - Morality is what allows the weak to prevail against the strong.
22:02.39LotGKol - I haven't seen any example of that yet.
22:03.06MonetArsac - You just see weak prevailing against weak, corect?
22:03.35PootiskaadIteok - Then again we are superior to you all, so everyone's weak compared to us.
22:04.34LotGKol - No, I see weak fighting weak. You all die. Death is the law of the Universe. But I do not follow that rule. Death does not restrict me. With you weak beings, there is risk. A risk that often results in your downfall. With me, there is only certainty.
22:05.11MonetArsac - And what is the point of living without risk?
22:05.53MonetArsac - I could finally die any day, but someone like you cannot fear death, how can you enjoy a risk if you have nothing to lose from it?
22:06.50LotGKol - What is the point of living at all if all thats going to happen is your eventual death? I admit, I was lucky. But I will recreate this Universe in my own image, a Universe without death! Doesn't that sound exciting? Doesn't it make you happy that I will be the one to make this universe a utopia?
22:07.01MonetArsac - Funny how the 'superior' lost embarrasingly to the DCP...
22:07.30PootiskaadIteok - Yes, Kol's clearly inferior.
22:07.50MonetArsac - What should matter is what you do with your life, not worry about the future.
22:08.49LotGKol - Then tell me, why are you so willing to end the lives of so many people, when they have nothing to do with your self?
22:09.59MonetArsac - I end the lives of the few so the many can sleep more soundly. THey pose a threat to the well-being of those around them.
22:10.32PootiskaadIteok - Who cares about the lives of other people?
22:11.16MonetArsac - No one *pauses, lifts her wing to look at Hachi and inhales*... can survive alone.
22:11.36LotGKol - Ha, so it isn't just so that you can release your anger on those who were responsible for the death of your partner, hmm?
22:11.47LotGHachi - *is sleeping under her wing, snoring slightly*
22:12.45MonetArsac - The one responsible is dead, I killed him myself and made sure he suffered!
22:14.01LotGKol - But you have never been satisfied, have you? Never satisfied that the one responsible is dead. You kept on killing. More and more, all for your own selfish reasons of hate.
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22:14.35MonetArsac - Wrong. I continued my dity, just as I always had.
22:14.47Monetduty*
22:15.35PootiskaadIteok - We could destroy you all just with the orders of our emperor...
22:15.37LotGKol - Your duty is what? To kill those who your superiors say are wrong? You fight and kill....for an opinion?
22:16.06MonetArsac - You are misguided ot think I do this out of vengence, I pledged to protect the innocent and bring justice to those whos' ideals could harm the very mindset of those aorund them.
22:16.08Reebutt17Herro
22:16.13MonetHello
22:16.39LotGHey
22:16.59LotGKol - Protect the innocent? Then again, define innocent. Who is really innocent?
22:17.16MonetArsac - Those who do not deserve to suffer....
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22:17.34PootiskaadTYBUSEN
22:17.41TybusenPOOTISKAAD
22:18.26Reebutt17Darn... where is Panda.
22:18.36LotGKol - And who are they, Arsac? What makes people deserve to suffer? Who are these people?
22:19.37PootiskaadIteok - We do not deserve to suffer because we're superior. *Screeches laughing*
22:19.42MonetArsac - ...Those who are blind to the greater good...
22:19.56PootiskaadEoH - TAAAAAAAAAAAAU
22:21.11LotGKol - And what is the greater good?! What defines the greater good?! The opinion of your Paragon, who is arrogant and stubborn? The opinion of yourself, who believes what you say is law?
22:21.19TybusenTLR - *smacks the Iteok and EoH* Shup. They're talking.
22:21.24MonetArsac - I ahve seen how religion can both help and harm. The Inquisition'sduty is to let the help prosper.
22:21.41PootiskaadIteok - *Shoots TLR*     EoH - TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAU
22:22.17Wormy_STOI've decided to play the other types of missions a bit more.
22:22.25TybusenTLR - You're worse than the Tahar at recognizing a demigod. *blows up the Iteok and punts the EoH across the galaxy*
22:22.35Wormy_STOStarfleet are not meant to be warlike
22:23.16PootiskaadTAE Asgord - "Since the dawn of genetics, the Cult of Drakon had declared the genetic augmentation of the draconis genus illegal." I wonder why, we clone Asgord and our empire is stable.
22:23.51LotGKol - This is not about religion! This is about your dirty, filthy, corrupted mindset! I fight so that this Universe can see peace, a peace that can never be achieved by your pathetic, violent little species, who have evolved to do nothing but hold up progress of how the Universe works!
22:23.51Monetcloning =/= augmentation.
22:25.07PootiskaadTAE Asgord - We augmentate our species a lot, only the military though, which is almost all of us. No rebellions or anything, so a kind question - What is the reason for the ban?
22:25.27TybusenLorrelas - Becuz cheating nature dum
22:25.38PootiskaadTAE Asgord - Why?
22:26.12MonetArsac - Rile up the high inquisitor so she can take another swipe at the so-called Zazane god, I don't know who sees who as more pathetic.
22:27.14LotGKol - Bah, the Zazane are an embarassment! I do not see myself as Zazane! I see myself as perfection! I am doing good for this Universe, why can you not see it?
22:28.03PootiskaadTAE - My questions please?
22:28.05MonetArsac - *extends her power claws and opens her other wing*... Smart... smart...
22:28.26TybusenLorrelas - I don't know why these Chaos guys strive for perfection, they're embodying the thing that causes imperfection...
22:29.52LotGKol - When the Universe is rid of your pathetic species, all of your pathetic species, peace will be eternal. There will be no more war, no more violence. Instead, there will be utopia. Peace, true freedom, a Universe at harmony.
22:30.21MonetArsac - You don't care how many die, all you vare about is the supremacy of your abominations!
22:30.57MonetArsac - Because you talk about the death of numberless innocnents!
22:32.28TybusenLorrelas - Is there really peace and war when there is no one left to witness it?
22:32.30LotGKol - They must die! They must all die! They all have the potential to cause unrest! When the extinction of all the empires and races within this Universe takes place, there will be no more unrest!
22:33.17MonetArsac - ANd what happens when new life arises on a diant world? ready to upset the balance of your 'perfection'.
22:33.25Monetdistant*
22:34.16LotGKol - Then they will be wiped out, as well as all the children I had raised. I will start again.
22:35.16TybusenLorrelas - You expect to find every last living thing in this universe and kill it?
22:36.29MonetArsac - You're right, I do not understand/ You will be wiping the universe clean of everything every few thousand years just ot uphold your dream.
22:37.00LotGKol - Life can only evolve so many times.
22:37.54LotGKol - And when it finally ceases, my dream of a perfect utopia will be achieved.
22:38.11MonetArsac - So you would be willing to restart the whole thing when nature takes it's course?
22:38.16MonetAnd as time passes there will be an infinite number more.
22:39.15MonetArsac - You forgot to factor the scale of your task.
22:39.20TybusenLorrelas - Aren't you technically a living thing too, Kol?
22:39.52LotGKol - Then...I would require divine assistance. The Ayrai'Shikua, they could wipe out all potential for life in this Universe except for my own. I am their ally. They would not care if they leave the Universe free for me to populate with my spawn.
22:40.14LotGKol - And no, for you to be living, you need to be able to die. I cannot die.
22:40.27MonetArsac - Yes, and by then life cannot support itslef. Life always finds a way Kol Daren. There are trillions of stars right now, each of whichhas the potential to create life.
22:41.09TybusenLorrelas - Tell me, Kol, if you do accomplish this -- and I emphasize "if" -- what will you do with a dead omniverse, then?
22:41.17MonetWould they also care to do your biding? Entities with power far beyond anyone's comprehension?
22:41.51LotGKol - Then I will destroy the stars! The planets! Galaxies! Even if I am left with a single planet for myself in this rotten Universe, I would still have achieved a peace!
22:42.52TybusenLorrelas - What happens when you have achieved that? What purpose was it for then?
22:43.24MonetArsac - ...We now reac hthe point where anyone of even a barely sound mind would have realsied your plan is flawed.
22:44.06LotGHachi - *wakes up and stands, yawning* I h-heard shouting.
22:44.35TybusenLorrelas - Go back to sleep. Kol and Arsac are having a...moment.
22:44.41LotGKol - No! My plan is perfect! Like myself! I am perfection incarnate! I will bring perfection to this Universe! How dare you doubt me!
22:45.07TybusenLorrelas - Epitome of perfection losin' his mind over here.
22:45.24Reebutt17Nirrhokz the Instigator - Talks of peace... *spits* a member of evil and chaos seeks PEACE?!! Preposterous! There can only be  war! Change! Turmoil! Chaos and disorder! Peace equals to stagnancy, there cannot be damned stagnancy in this universe. And you talk about perfection? There cannot be perfection!
22:46.03Reebutt17Nirrhokz - I'd rather spread the taint and bring disorder to the entire universe rather than talk constantly of this... peace and perfection.
22:46.21MonetArsac - I quite enjoy it when the determined cultits finally breaks down and comes ot the conclusion the only way he can convince that he is right is by ranting as so. Lifefather bless me I love my work.
22:48.00LotGKol - You....I...*shaking tremendously, black blood leaking from his nose* I...I am right! I always have been!
22:48.22MonetArsac - *smiles* Your voice betrays you Kol, you have failed.
22:48.56MonetArsac - *grins smugly* I might keep this recording...
22:49.04TybusenLorrelas - Aww, look, he's leaking blood. How perfect.
22:49.17LotGKol - I will not give up my dream! My dream...benefits the Universe!
22:49.37TybusenLorrelas - By blowing everything up. Uh-huh. Keep telling yourself that.
22:50.06MonetArsac - I shall leve you to contemplate Kol. I always prevail... *lifts the wing Hachi was under*
22:50.29Monet(Inquisitor mindrape is epic!)
22:50.52Reebutt17Nirrhokz - Your dream is preposterous! Despair some more! Why don't you change your mind AND SPREAD THE CHAOS AND DISORDER RATHER THAN CONTEMPLATING YOUR DREAM?!!!
22:51.34LotGKol - *looks to Hachi, shaking more and feeling the blood on his snout* No....no! N-No! No no no! *he spreads his arms, and he suddenly disappears into a black and purple substance which soon evaporates*
22:51.44TybusenLorrelas - *smashes Nirrhokz's head into the ground* Hey. Moment.
22:52.20Reebutt17Nirrhokz - *isn't actually smashed like that* You fool... *blasts Lorrelas away with Xarikspatial energy*
22:52.37LotGHachi - *clings to Arsac's side* W-What just happened?
22:52.48Reebutt17(You dare do such a maneuver to a Radux that can't be beaten like that?)
22:52.58MonetArsac - Not even gods are infallable....
22:53.13Reebutt17Nirrhokz - Well... I shall waste no time... so long fools! *warps back to Xarikspace*
22:54.24LotGHachi - That was....scary. How much did I miss?
22:55.02PootiskaadLezia - *Pets Kol* You're so cute...
22:55.31MonetArsac - You missed much *lifts her wing away and turns to leave*
22:55.42Reebutt17Nirrhokz - *materializes behind Lezia* YOU WEAKLING! *throws Lezia into a Xarikspace portal and goes with her into it*
22:56.24LotGHachi - B-But I....*sighs and stands still* Wow, she seems pretty happy.
22:57.12MonetArsac - SOmeone might tell you later, but I have my duties.
22:57.52LotGHachi - O-Of course, Inquisitor.
22:58.04PootiskaadLezia - *Keeps petting Kol*
22:58.14Monet(tomorrow I'm going to add this to  my random stuff page, this was awesome)
22:58.57Reebutt17Nirrhokz - You cheating freak! *throws Lezia around*
23:00.35TybusenLorrelas - Fool, you don't understand the first thing about Lezia: she's unbreakable.
23:02.11Reebutt17Nirrhokz - Do not tempt my wrath! Even if she's unbreakable then that means I can beat her around anytime I want, again and again... eventually, she will fall to the power of Xarikspace.
23:03.53TybusenLorrelas - That's the thing. Not even the most powerful Chaos entity in the omniverse has been able to break her.
23:04.13Reebutt17http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Xarik-Radux#Physiology You can't smash Radux head to the ground, why? Here...
23:04.20Reebutt17Additionally, Xarik-Radux are known to be capable of generating their own gravitic field/distortion that seems to be largely immune to a large number of outside interactions, this "self-gravity" allows Radux to cling on to surfaces in space without gravity as though they had gravity,
23:04.23Reebutt17and then get off of it at will again, and makes it generally difficult in particular to knock a Radux off of it's feet or pick it up from the ground. It also means that the effectiveness of black holes and other high-gravity and/or gravity-manipulation "items" is greatly reduced against the Xarik-Radux.
23:04.36Reebutt17"and makes it generally difficult in particular to knock a Radux off of it's feet or pick it up from the ground."
23:04.45Reebutt17ermm...
23:04.53Reebutt17smash their heads easily into the ground that is.
23:04.56Reebutt17and anyways...
23:05.13Reebutt17since I played Radux... we'll just probably have to start again?
23:05.20TybusenDon't forget, this is the main universe
23:05.24TybusenPhysics are different
23:05.31Reebutt17No
23:05.48Reebutt17You think Xarikverse is all about Xarikspace? Nope
23:05.51TybusenIf he was there for Arsac and Kol's conversation, that was Fictionverse, no Xarikspace
23:06.04Reebutt17seriously...
23:06.16Reebutt17if there was no Xarikspace then how could he get there?
23:06.36Reebutt17He wouldn't be able to do anything if there was no Xarikspace.
23:07.34Reebutt17if a Radux made an appearance in a Fictionverse RP then that means Xarikspace DID find it's way to the Fictionverse. (albeit non-canonically since Radux are not part of main Fictionverse, only RPs when they can be considered unofficial)
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23:08.59TybusenIt wouldn't be in large enough quantities to probably make the Radux hyperpowerful like they are in the Xarikverse, unless they brought a whole lot with them.
23:09.02TybusenHi ACP
23:09.02ACraftyPandaHiyah
23:09.10ACraftyPandaWhat's this?
23:09.24Reebutt17They always bring a whole lot.
23:09.24Reebutt17and hi Panda.
23:09.44Reebutt17put a Radux in another Fictionverse RP
23:10.49Reebutt17ermm...
23:10.57Reebutt17I placed one into another Fictionverse RP
23:11.01TybusenStill, they can't bring so much that it can make them hyperpowerful for their entire stay in Fictionverse, unless it can be recycled. Because as far as I see it Xarikspace seems incompatible with normal timespace.
23:11.42Reebutt17...
23:11.56Reebutt17what?
23:13.11TybusenI might've pulled a Wormy on you AKA using big words that confuse people, not always intentionally :P
23:13.31ACraftyPandaIt's like Warp energy. Nature doesn't like it, so it gets 'pushed out,' meaning that Daemons need a constant supply of it.
23:13.32Reebutt17...
23:13.47Reebutt17Yes, something like that.
23:13.54ACraftyPandaWhich is impossible unless there is a warp rift conveniently nearby.
23:14.04Reebutt17actually...
23:14.15Reebutt17actually...
23:14.25ACraftyPandaActually you got nothing :D
23:14.29Reebutt17NO
23:14.38Reebutt17goddamnit.
23:14.48Reebutt17I haven't finished my sentence.
23:14.58Reebutt17and you're using preposterous smileys.
23:15.10Reebutt17Whatever...
23:15.16Reebutt17Radux are difficult to explain.
23:18.45*** join/#sporewiki Reebutt17 (79362259@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.54.34.89)
23:18.55Reebutt17What now?!
23:19.57*** join/#sporewiki ACraftyPanda (82669e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.102.158.13)
23:20.22Reebutt17Xarikspatial energy DOES NOT get pushed out, it remains there, securing a foothold, and attaching itself to whatever piece of technology or anything the Radux have.
23:20.36TybusenBut is it recycled?
23:20.42Reebutt17and look
23:20.43Reebutt17It only gets pushed out when the Radux are warped back to their own dimension.
23:20.58Reebutt17I don't understand what the fuck you're talking about with this whole "recycle" thing.
23:21.43ACraftyPandaDoes it get used up when it is used or not?
23:21.58Reebutt17if the fact that Xarikspatial energy is actually returned to Xarikspace when used up/dissipating in the normal material universe then yes!
23:22.15Reebutt17It is recycled!
23:22.47Reebutt17remember that all Radux technology utilizes that energy one way or another.
23:23.20Reebutt17but in reality... Xarikspatial energy alone can't score a big impact on the materium.
23:23.26Reebutt17which is why Radux needed physical bodies.
23:23.28TybusenThough in the normal universe, the Radux would need to keep a link to Xarikspace open to fuel their stuff, and keep the Fictionverse side of the portal would require quite a bit of energy.
23:23.39Reebutt17Nope
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23:23.59Reebutt17The normal universe in the Xarikverse is much like the Fictionverse' normal one.
23:24.07IrskAndroidback
23:24.07Reebutt17and anyways...
23:24.19Reebutt17continuing on the Radux need for physical bodies to interact with the materium...
23:24.56TybusenBut how do you keep a link to Xarikspace on the Fictionverse side without using Xarikenergy, which probably won't be effective considering differeing physics
23:24.58Reebutt17that is also why they needed things like bullets and plasma to be encoated in Xarikspatial energy and what-not for their weapons instead of firing raw, pure XE.
23:25.03Reebutt17...
23:25.05Reebutt17what the fuck.
23:25.11Reebutt17Physics?
23:25.51Reebutt17Stop
23:25.53Reebutt17thinking
23:25.58Reebutt17that XARIKVERSE IS ALL ABOUT XARIKSPACE
23:26.06Reebutt17IT ISN'T
23:26.27TybusenBut what about Xarikspace is different from the normal universe that allows the Radux to be superpowerful in their own domain
23:26.35Reebutt17STOP IT!
23:26.46Reebutt17Radux are powerful in their own dimension I got that...
23:27.01Reebutt17but they still have to get to the material universe in Xarikverse to be able to wreak havoc and stuff!
23:28.45Reebutt17Radux have almost complete control via their energy bodies in Xarikspace I got that, but not so much in the material universe, which is why they needed physical bodies.
23:28.48TybusenI know you've probably been told this in the distant past many times before, but not everything can be a wrecking party for the Radux.
23:28.58Reebutt17...
23:29.00Reebutt17OF COURSE
23:29.22Reebutt17Which is why I have planned to write down stories of Radux losing in Xarikverse.
23:29.24Reebutt17but still...
23:29.44Reebutt17they don't fall to most of the same weaknesses and stuff unlike normal beings.
23:29.54Reebutt17they don't get their heads bashed to the ground.
23:30.16Reebutt17they don't get knocked down several miles away and thrown around a planet several miles around.
23:34.16Wormy_STOTo be fair, in the SporeWikiverse, any civilisation with hyperspatial technology has many advantages over realspace tech only civs, and i'm not just talking FTL.  Me and Ghelae have classified many SporeWikiverse technologies as hypersptial, even essence has something to do with it.
23:34.36Reebutt17...
23:34.45Wormy_STOSo I don't find the Radux too surprising
23:34.54Reebutt17yes
23:35.05Reebutt17but that isn't really the point.
23:35.08Reebutt17the thing is...
23:35.38WormyAnd before you say that Xarikspace isn't hyperspace, well, SporeWiki's definction of hyperspace generally incorporates the extra dimensions in general, not just one.
23:35.41Reebutt17most civilizations in the SporeWikiverse are normal beings from the main dimension and not from another dimension... and thus, aren't easily capable of all the crazy stuff.
23:35.58Reebutt17and was I going to say that Xarikspace isn't hyperspace?
23:36.01Reebutt17It counts as one.
23:36.10Reebutt17though tbh there are two hyperspaces in the Xarikverse.
23:36.38WormyI don't know about that now, most are catching up with Tier 1 thanks to communalities like the Milky Way Cooperative, AI Netspace and CyraEmp.
23:37.29Reebutt17doesn't change the fact that only some specialized and trained individuals are capable of essence usage and crazy stuff.
23:37.56WormyActually, all sentients in the SporeWikiverse are capable of tapping into essence now.
23:38.30WormyIn the SporeWikiverse is actually quantum hyperspatial conciousness which all concious beings have :P
23:38.54Reebutt17dammit not the smiley
23:39.04WormyBut anyway, you've been gone for some time on the wiki so these updates I don't expect you to know them all.
23:39.21WormyI'll use smilies when I want.
23:39.29WormyAnyway, goodnight
23:39.31Reebutt17all sapients in SporeWikiverse are capable of tapping into essences but... not as good as the other or that.
23:39.41WormyTrue

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