| 00:02.48 | Monet_plzBeep | I think i am gaining an interest in Taoism because to me it seems like they have the right idea. It's all energy, what's differeint is the state of it. |
| 00:03.40 | Wormy | In the last year and half, I've been studying Taoism and Buddhism |
| 00:04.04 | Wormy | I got into meditation and chigung, its changed by outlook on the world quite a bit |
| 00:04.11 | Wormy | But I'm still athiest |
| 00:04.18 | Wormy | *Qigong |
| 00:05.06 | Wormy | In Buddhism, they have the idea of Maya, all we see is illusionary perceptions of a world we can never understand "as it is" |
| 00:05.45 | Monet_plzBeep | That's longer than me; I only took an interest in Taoism last August. |
| 00:06.23 | Wormy | I was interested in the ch'i aspect |
| 00:07.09 | Wormy | I don't believe its a paranormal energy, just this conscios perception of various systems (mind/body connection) |
| 00:07.32 | Monet_plzBeep | Since taking a science course prior I considered the idea that there are links between the fundamnetal principle of Taoism and thermodynamics. |
| 00:08.14 | Wormy | I've got a book called the "Tao of Science", I recomend it, its all about relations between Eatern mystiscm and Western Science |
| 00:09.07 | Wormy | http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/documents/chi_hameroff_000.pdf http://www.seed.org/articles/Is%20Qi%20the%20same%20as%20Energy.pdf |
| 00:09.45 | Wormy | And this is about Maya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk3OuhGXzHE |
| 00:09.52 | Wormy | Sorry I must be bombarding you :P |
| 00:10.13 | Wormy | 3I don't get to talk about Taoism too often |
| 00:11.31 | Monet_plzBeep | No problem, we both like science it seems. Also unlike Irskaad i'm the sort of idealist who thinks there is a possibility that science and religion can work together. |
| 00:12.14 | Wormy | I do. In fact, spirituality could work if one considers consciousness as something that arises from Quantum Mechanics. |
| 00:13.03 | Wormy | In fact, experiments conducted by the PEAR institute has shown our minds seem to be able to create ordered numbers in random sequence generators |
| 00:13.22 | OluapPlayer | Damn now I need to talk to Luc too |
| 00:13.34 | Wormy | I think it could be explained by the "Many Worlds Interpretation" of Quantum Mechanics3 |
| 00:15.07 | Monet_plzBeep | To be honest i never thought of a possible link between quantum mechanics and personality until i played Mass Effect: Within it true A.I. (and A.I. personalities) are only possible with the unpredictability that arises from quantum meachanics. Quantum computers = true AI. |
| 00:16.04 | Wormy | In Orch Or Theory of consciousness, each microtubule in each cell of the human bodyact like quantum computers |
| 00:16.37 | Wormy | Monet, have you heard of Alan Watts? |
| 00:17.10 | Monet_plzBeep | Not sure. Possibly. |
| 00:18.13 | Wormy | He is awesome to listen to, he brought Eastern Mysticsm to the Western world. Presence of the Mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jORSR4cazwQ&feature=fvst |
| 00:22.07 | Monet_plzBeep | He is definitely quite profound. |
| 00:24.25 | Wormy | This gets good after 4:20, it has Carl Sagan, Alan Watts and other scientists talking about the mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3F0jid85dI&feature=channel_video_title |
| 00:27.06 | Wormy | Actually, I had Jehovice Witnesses around today |
| 00:27.14 | Wormy | At the door, I don't let them in |
| 00:28.07 | Wormy | I tried to convert them to science so they left me with a booklet obvoously made for the science types |
| 00:28.21 | Monet_plzBeep | heh. |
| 00:28.24 | Wormy | I'm never rude |
| 00:29.02 | Wormy | They did the same thing last year, I peered through the book and found loads of errors |
| 00:30.28 | Monet_plzBeep | IMO religion started off practical however over time many ideas became outdated. Artificial contraception for insntance isn't wrong, it should be encouraged. |
| 00:34.09 | Monet_plzBeep | I agree that people in their 50s and above are wise and have had a lifetime of experiences that would be useful. But those often in power don't seem very open-minded. Hardly any MPs have had any experience with a computer game for instance. |
| 00:37.14 | Wormy | Yeah. I'm an athiest, but I tolerate religion and I'm not skeptical of peoples spiritual experiences. However, for me, I just can't believe there is a deity which is controlling my existence. In my view, I'm the one consciously percieving this world, and perhaps, I'm more Humanist in this sense. |
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| 00:37.37 | Monet_plzBeep | Hello. |
| 00:37.42 | Twinkyberries | hello |
| 00:37.47 | Wormy | Certainly not against religion |
| 00:38.09 | Twinkyberries | so what is today's conversation |
| 00:38.44 | Wormy | Taoism, science, the mind, now religion |
| 00:39.43 | Monet_plzBeep | Personally I think religion can be a force for good with the right ideals. That's what I tried to do In-fiction with the Cult- of Drakon. |
| 00:42.06 | Wormy | My DCP is largely anti-theist, although they allowed one member to continue to worship Spode, in an experiment to test whether the followers would fight even better. |
| 00:42.32 | Irskaad | Tahars are ant-theist too lol |
| 00:42.45 | Monet_plzBeep | We know... |
| 00:42.59 | Wormy | They have become far more tolerant over the last 50 years though. Their alliance with the Radeon instigated this. |
| 00:43.07 | Wormy | during the War of Ages. |
| 00:43.43 | Monet_plzBeep | They're the Spanish Inquisition for Atheists. |
| 00:46.47 | Wormy | It will be funny if one day they became thiest |
| 00:46.51 | Wormy | *theist |
| 00:47.02 | Wormy | Perhaps that should be a fiction. |
| 00:48.08 | Wormy | Neutrino experiment repeat at Cern finds same result http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15791236 |
| 00:48.52 | Wormy | I find this age so exciting. |
| 00:49.40 | Monet_plzBeep | Indeed. |
| 00:52.00 | Monet_plzBeep | The new GEC scares me... |
| 00:52.03 | Wormy | I wasn't sure if it was an error the first time, but now with these same results its quite interesting. However, during supernovae, the light hits first, so I think the LHC could actually be creating some manner of warpage in spacetime or something exotic like that. |
| 00:52.48 | Wormy | Since its SporeWiki's version of the Galactic Empire... |
| 00:54.06 | Monet_plzBeep | The only exception being the Emprah is an omnipotent. He can rule forever, can't die and I have a baaaad feeling he's not going to stop with Cyrannus. |
| 00:56.04 | Wormy | Um has said he has no interest in making any opposition or rebellion, so this GEC is possibly permanent. |
| 00:56.27 | Irskaad | Xho! |
| 00:56.30 | Wormy | His Catharsis empire though may cause it trouble in the future. |
| 00:56.39 | Wormy | Xho? |
| 00:56.42 | Monet_plzBeep | I guessed the former. |
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| 00:58.38 | Liquid_Ink | Does anyone here know a lot about WWII? |
| 00:59.22 | Wormy | I know a sufficient amount but I'm not a historical expert. |
| 00:59.36 | Wormy | Why? Which bit are you inquiring? |
| 00:59.40 | Monet_plzBeep | I'm just concerned because they are the second-largest territory in the galaxy where my fiction is based. And yes Ink I know a bit about WWII. |
| 00:59.50 | Liquid_Ink | At what time did Germany reach its largest size, and how much area did it cover? |
| 01:00.32 | Wormy | I don't know that much |
| 01:00.55 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic |
| 01:00.58 | Wormy | maybe? |
| 01:01.14 | Monet_plzBeep | I was never good over territory. At their height they had Austria, Italy, France, Denmark and Poland. |
| 01:02.53 | Wormy | The Weimar Republic at least has 181,000 sq mi or 468,787 km2 at its height in 1925, but that doesn't include the invaded countries during WWII |
| 01:03.04 | Monet_plzBeep | They had some parts of North Africa as well but i can't give any dates. |
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| 01:04.33 | Solid_Ink | If anyone answered my question, I didn't get your answer. |
| 01:05.37 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Europe_under_Nazi_domination.png |
| 01:05.48 | Liquid_Ink | Thanks. |
| 01:06.38 | Liquid_Ink | In the music I'm listening to, at one point there's a note that sounds like the IRC beeping me. |
| 01:07.05 | Wormy | Area in 1941 696,265 km2 |
| 01:07.14 | Wormy | 268,829 sq mi |
| 01:07.19 | Liquid_Ink | Danke. |
| 01:07.24 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Reich |
| 01:07.43 | Wormy | Those days were insane |
| 01:07.53 | Liquid_Ink | Are there any creatures on the wiki with the colour scheme: black and hot pink? |
| 01:08.38 | Liquid_Ink | How any casualties did the Germans have at that time? |
| 01:08.56 | Xho | A lot. |
| 01:09.23 | Monet_plzBeep | Great asnwer. |
| 01:09.33 | Liquid_Ink | No, I need exact figures. |
| 01:10.38 | Monet_plzBeep | I'm going to pass. All i know is that total casualties is about 8-14 million (i think). |
| 01:10.53 | Wormy | Something like that |
| 01:11.42 | Wormy | In fact the Allies bombed plenty of German civilians which is still pretty bad. |
| 01:12.57 | Wormy | Casualties and losses are on this pages template http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II |
| 01:14.08 | Wormy | After the Allies fire bombed Berlin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Destruction_in_a_Berlin_street.jpg |
| 01:17.33 | Wormy | test |
| 01:19.15 | Monet_plzBeep | Was going to add a quote from Arsac relating to the Empire's antitheist policies. is this too extreme: |
| 01:19.40 | Monet_plzBeep | <<If this empire dares force US to abandon Drakon I will personally sever the tails of their preachers before forcing them so far down their throats it comes right back out again!>> |
| 01:19.58 | Wormy | see the n00bs commenting here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiBVP6W9pNo&feature=feedrec_grec_index |
| 01:20.09 | Wormy | "well, i mean plazma is the 4th state of matter(as people believed) is made out of molecules and atoms ionizing themselves, therefore plazma travels at the speed of light perhaps faster" |
| 01:20.30 | Wormy | "Seife THAT video on the plazma gun... the plazma gun's ray was obviously much slower than the speed of light. Then it ought to be fake." |
| 01:20.34 | Monet_plzBeep | Did they actually spell it with a 'Z'!? |
| 01:20.51 | Wormy | Dear dear |
| 01:21.39 | Monet_plzBeep | They did... why? |
| 01:21.45 | Irskaad | He thought (Y) was a thumbs up |
| 01:22.43 | Wormy | "What the hell did you explode and why would you shoot it in your room?" |
| 01:22.52 | Wormy | Use your brain |
| 01:22.54 | Monet_plzBeep | They were all typing it as 'plazma' |
| 01:24.05 | Monet_plzBeep | Anyway, How's the quote. it's not in too bad taste is it? |
| 01:26.07 | Wormy | Now thats cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzqtAoJjV8Y&feature=related |
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| 01:27.18 | Catface | I'm back from the charity dinner thingy. |
| 01:27.27 | Monet_plzBeep | How was it? |
| 01:28.25 | Catface | It was good. Long but good |
| 01:29.18 | Wormy | Charity dinner thingy? |
| 01:29.44 | Catface | There was about seven churches/organizations that came and sponsored and such. |
| 01:29.51 | Catface | Yeah charity. |
| 01:30.14 | Catface | It went to tornado victims. |
| 01:30.21 | Liquid_Ink | I'm making a texture pack for Minecraft. |
| 01:30.32 | Catface | Orly? |
| 01:31.39 | Irskaad | Going, bye |
| 01:31.42 | Catface | And me and this one guy talked about the different people who could play as Batman. |
| 01:31.44 | Catface | Bai |
| 01:32.47 | Catface | The best we came up with is Pee Wee Hermen, Gandhi, and Mr. Rogers. |
| 01:34.36 | Monet_plzBeep | For me 'Bruce Wayne' doesn't spring to mind for any of those. |
| 01:35.02 | Monet_plzBeep | I'm off for tonight, see you all tomorrow. |
| 01:35.25 | Catface | It was a joke thing. |
| 01:35.38 | Catface | Anyways by |
| 01:35.39 | Catface | bye |
| 01:35.45 | Catface | I g2g too. |
| 01:35.49 | Catface | I'n pretty tired. |
| 01:36.00 | Catface | bye |
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| 08:49.51 | Liquid_Ink | Hi Xho. |
| 08:52.08 | Xho | Hi |
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| 09:08.57 | Imperios|2 | OOps |
| 09:09.00 | Imperios | Hi |
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| 09:30.21 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 09:35.27 | Liquid_Ink | I'm ba-ack! |
| 09:37.39 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 09:40.47 | Liquid_Ink | How are you all? |
| 09:40.49 | Ghelae | Liquid_Ink: Do you think you can try to read through this probably unnecessarily long page - http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghelæ/Tech - and list your fictions on them? There's currently only two entries for the Vermulans and one for the DSB; there were some for the Iron Bloc on the other pages but IIRC there isn't very much of them left now. |
| 09:40.56 | Ghelae | I'm okay. How about you? |
| 09:41.21 | Liquid_Ink | I'm fine. |
| 09:41.30 | Liquid_Ink | About to do what you just asked. |
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| 09:41.58 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 09:42.16 | Ghelae | Liquid_Ink: You don't really need to read through the "Notes" section. |
| 09:42.18 | Monet | Hello |
| 09:44.19 | Liquid_Ink | Okay. |
| 09:58.28 | Imperios | Hello. |
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| 10:01.55 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 10:02.40 | OluapPlayer | Hello |
| 10:03.18 | Liquid_Ink | I'll read that later, 'kay Ghel? |
| 10:03.38 | Liquid_Ink | It's beginning to make me tired. |
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| 10:05.15 | Monet_ | Discovered Cyrannian's blog about user pairings the other day, It looked interesting. |
| 10:05.46 | Imperios | Hi OP |
| 10:07.53 | Xho | eats everyone |
| 10:08.19 | OluapPlayer | hugs Xho |
| 10:08.27 | Xho | ssss |
| 10:09.21 | Monet_ | I know i'm still relatively new to the wiki but i've been wondering what my pairings could be. IMO it could be Wormy (we both enjoy discussing science), Irskaad (Tahar encounters, drawings) or Imperios (Shared love of warhammer). |
| 10:09.35 | Imperios | Duh |
| 10:09.49 | Imperios | We could be a user trio, duh, since I am also paired with IRC |
| 10:09.50 | Imperios | *Irsk |
| 10:10.28 | OluapPlayer | Fiction-wise I think your pair would be Luc |
| 10:10.33 | Monet_ | True. Although when it comes to beliefs me and Irsk are polar opposites. |
| 10:11.27 | Imperios | My pair? |
| 10:12.35 | Imperios | My pair also could be Luc |
| 10:12.41 | Imperios | since our fictions are very similar |
| 10:12.47 | Imperios | And we are both... you know. |
| 10:13.06 | Monet_ | Yeah. |
| 10:13.36 | Liquid_Ink | Evil? |
| 10:13.44 | Liquid_Ink | North Korean? |
| 10:13.46 | Liquid_Ink | Mafia? |
| 10:13.53 | Liquid_Ink | Satanists? |
| 10:14.01 | Liquid_Ink | I *don't* know. |
| 10:14.01 | OluapPlayer | Perverts |
| 10:14.15 | Liquid_Ink | Oh, yes I *do* know. |
| 10:14.33 | Imperios | >> |
| 10:14.34 | Imperios | [14:13:44] <Liquid_Ink> North Korean? |
| 10:14.37 | Imperios | Heck |
| 10:14.51 | Imperios | You have guessed my ethnicity, actually. Well, almost. |
| 10:15.07 | Imperios | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koryo-saram |
| 10:24.59 | Monet_ | So far much of the action in the Andromeda War had been within a triumvirate of Draconis, Radeons and Zazane. |
| 10:30.39 | Imperios | Yep |
| 10:37.42 | Monet_ | I'm thinking of making a page for Drakon (The Draconis diety) simply beause of just how often he is mentioned. I will state that he is mythological (unless making him real is agreed on, which is unlikely) and so far I have Irskaad's support. |
| 10:38.32 | Imperios | Nice idea. |
| 10:40.21 | Monet_ | Okay so that's two. Liquid, Oulap? |
| 10:41.09 | Ghelae | I don't see why you shouldn't make the page. |
| 10:41.18 | OluapPlayer | Go ahead with it |
| 10:41.29 | Monet_ | Okay. |
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| 10:43.45 | Imperios | Monet_: Yeah |
| 10:44.07 | Monet_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dark_Times/Year_One#President_Gharrrko.27s_Final_Day The Apocolypta have done it again! |
| 10:44.22 | OluapPlayer | Ain't them rascals |
| 10:44.27 | Monet_ | Imperios: Ghelae's agreed too. |
| 10:45.33 | Monet_ | Killing an influential leader and then seamlessly taking his/her body and position just seems... despicable. |
| 10:45.38 | Imperios | Meh |
| 10:46.16 | Imperios | Why couldn't they just do it with Apollo |
| 10:47.03 | OluapPlayer | Apollo is protected by the 13th Tribe |
| 10:47.42 | Monet_ | Oh right. Yeah omnipotents are good at that. |
| 10:48.03 | Monet_ | I think Anteddy has tried before hasn't he? |
| 10:48.36 | Imperios | Hur |
| 10:49.45 | OluapPlayer | Anteddy himself didn't, but Meketanor did |
| 10:50.01 | OluapPlayer | He got flamed by a 13th Tribe member |
| 10:50.08 | Monet_ | lol. |
| 10:50.15 | OluapPlayer | Flamed as in burned to almost destruction |
| 10:51.12 | Liquid_Ink | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah0fLmi7ynY&feature=related |
| 10:51.56 | Monet_ | *Wonders what would happen if this happened to Arsac* <- I'd rather not since inquisitors have complete power and freedom... Then again they can see auras so they might know something's up. |
| 10:52.15 | Imperios | Yeah |
| 10:52.35 | Imperios | Iovera could protect herself so meh |
| 10:52.46 | Imperios | She is Apoca-proof |
| 10:53.06 | Monet_ | She's an ascended being. If she dies people would know. |
| 10:53.24 | OluapPlayer | Silly, you can't be ultraterrestrial proof unless you're another ultraterrestrial |
| 10:53.52 | OluapPlayer | Anteddy would munch her like a cookie |
| 10:55.19 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ultraterrestrials#Eola.27Nar |
| 10:55.30 | Imperios | trolololololo |
| 10:55.50 | OluapPlayer | Meh |
| 10:56.02 | OluapPlayer | They would still get munched like cookies |
| 10:56.29 | Imperios | Depends on a Nar |
| 10:56.46 | Imperios | Egnozeus could at least banish Anteddy |
| 10:56.58 | Imperios | Not kill but stop him |
| 10:57.39 | OluapPlayer | That's really overpowered considering Anteddy is possibly next to power to Angazhar |
| 10:58.12 | OluapPlayer | How powerful is Egnozeus compared to Felaanith? |
| 10:58.35 | Imperios | 150% |
| 10:58.55 | Imperios | Egnozeus is new Sanktanaar, remember. |
| 10:59.12 | OluapPlayer | Yes I know that |
| 10:59.34 | Imperios | He is weaker than Anteddy but could at least punch or banish him |
| 10:59.55 | Monet_ | Asac might be able to work out that 'Emperor' Anteddy is a darker-than-the-abyss evil little PoS the moment she sees him but she won't be able to do anything. She tends to get pretty pissed if she can't do what she is supposed to do. |
| 11:00.30 | OluapPlayer | hur Mekie teachs her a lesson then |
| 11:01.38 | Monet_ | However (if she somehow survives an encounter) she could comandeer galactic communications and broadcast to EVERYONE what he really is. |
| 11:02.47 | OluapPlayer | It would just result in another Apocalypta-style leader replacement |
| 11:02.49 | OluapPlayer | Kill inquisitor, take her place, troll around |
| 11:04.08 | Monet_ | Three primary ways inquisitors do their job: Cut off the boss's head, publicly expose cults/people for their true nature or have the entire minion army turn against them. And if an inquisitors don't normally manipulate the people they try to protect for their own goals. |
| 11:04.39 | Monet_ | *Remove if an |
| 11:05.07 | Imperios | I would like Mek to meet Iovera one day |
| 11:05.55 | OluapPlayer | Meketanor? |
| 11:06.29 | Imperios | Yep |
| 11:06.34 | OluapPlayer | Hmm |
| 11:07.37 | Monet_ | If she starts trolling the Archcleric can do something (Pretty much the only person in the universe who has authority over her). Unfortunately the Archcleric is normally an old man who spends his days in a caathedral so replacing him would be piss-easy. |
| 11:07.51 | OluapPlayer | lol |
| 11:08.15 | Liquid_Ink | http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=7300_1&v=z How would you describe the shape of this Martian's head? |
| 11:09.14 | Monet_ | Someone took a hammer to a Grey's cranium XD |
| 11:09.17 | Imperios | Iovera has two very large advantages over Mek. |
| 11:09.49 | Imperios | First is EGNOZEUS who could punch Mek |
| 11:10.17 | OluapPlayer | Mek - hur coward relying on your boss to fight for you |
| 11:10.31 | Imperios | And second is HOOONEY |
| 11:10.42 | OluapPlayer | wat |
| 11:10.57 | OluapPlayer | You mean Tyraz? |
| 11:10.58 | Monet_ | I think Tyraz could still get stamped. |
| 11:10.59 | Imperios | And the resulting Firesword pwnage of Mek |
| 11:11.21 | OluapPlayer | Mek could probably beat Tyraz up |
| 11:11.35 | Imperios | Dafuk |
| 11:11.52 | Imperios | How OP are Apocalypta so |
| 11:11.52 | OluapPlayer | But Mek has no reason to meet Iovera |
| 11:12.11 | OluapPlayer | Apocalypta are the Cyrannian version of the Xhodocto |
| 11:12.18 | OluapPlayer | And Tyraz isn't THAT powerful anyway |
| 11:12.30 | Imperios | Hur |
| 11:12.33 | OluapPlayer | Dark Zr'Ahgloth almost killed him self-handely during the Fog War |
| 11:12.41 | Imperios | Then |
| 11:12.47 | *** join/#sporewiki Technobliterator (56b15558@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.177.85.88) |
| 11:12.56 | Imperios | Tyraz plus Iovera = Mek runs away |
| 11:13.05 | OluapPlayer | In that case, yeah |
| 11:13.20 | OluapPlayer | Mek would consider them cowardly |
| 11:13.26 | Imperios | Hur |
| 11:13.54 | Imperios | THE POWAH OF LUV |
| 11:14.09 | OluapPlayer | Kolossus - imma kill ur kidz |
| 11:14.12 | Liquid_Ink | Hello Techno! |
| 11:14.31 | Liquid_Ink | http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=7300_1&v=z How would you describe the shape of this Martian's head? |
| 11:14.34 | Imperios | Hi Jo |
| 11:15.09 | Imperios | Rounded pyramid |
| 11:15.15 | Technobliterator | hi |
| 11:15.28 | Technobliterator | So then |
| 11:15.38 | Monet_ | Hi |
| 11:15.41 | Technobliterator | Anyideas for a new name instead of Ravenlii? |
| 11:15.51 | Imperios | Hm |
| 11:15.58 | Imperios | Lumyan or Illyan |
| 11:16.08 | Technobliterator | It's gotta have Raven in front of it |
| 11:16.12 | Technobliterator | Illyan is already a race |
| 11:16.57 | Monet_ | Ravenorinali? |
| 11:17.02 | Imperios | Ravencilde |
| 11:17.11 | OluapPlayer | Ravengorf |
| 11:17.13 | OluapPlayer | peem |
| 11:17.23 | Imperios | Ravenseen |
| 11:18.01 | Technobliterator | lol OluapPlayer |
| 11:18.19 | Technobliterator | I think Monet_'s name is best |
| 11:18.31 | Imperios | Ravendetari |
| 11:18.44 | Technobliterator | ^ or that |
| 11:18.49 | Monet_ | Thanks. |
| 11:19.11 | Imperios | Detari is derived from Russian for children |
| 11:19.31 | Xho | Dom |
| 11:19.34 | Xho | Nom |
| 11:19.36 | Xho | Even |
| 11:19.48 | OluapPlayer | ~smack Xho |
| 11:19.48 | infobot | ACTION smacks Xho upside the head. |
| 11:19.52 | Xho | nein |
| 11:19.54 | Xho | ~smack OluapPlayer |
| 11:19.55 | infobot | ACTION smacks OluapPlayer upside the head. |
| 11:19.57 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:19.58 | OluapPlayer | >:c |
| 11:20.05 | Xho | >:) |
| 11:20.09 | Technobliterator | lol |
| 11:20.17 | Imperios | Hi |
| 11:20.21 | Imperios | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPaxFZCSWU&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
| 11:21.09 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 11:21.27 | OluapPlayer | Silly Spore physics |
| 11:22.01 | Imperios | Hm |
| 11:22.24 | Imperios | What Eldar craftworld should I choose? |
| 11:22.31 | Imperios | To play and collect. |
| 11:22.54 | Monet_ | Didn't we discuss this the other day? |
| 11:23.09 | Imperios | But OP wasn't there |
| 11:23.54 | *** join/#sporewiki MasterMachine (62e1fcfc@gateway/web/qwebirc/irc.wikia.com/ip.98.225.252.252) |
| 11:23.57 | OluapPlayer | dunno |
| 11:24.08 | OluapPlayer | All I know about Eldar is that spamming Wraitguards makes you win games |
| 11:24.10 | Imperios | Basically |
| 11:24.36 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:24.38 | Monet_ | Iyandean then if you want to win. |
| 11:24.45 | Imperios | Iyanden = Eldah who use Wraithguatds a lot |
| 11:24.52 | Imperios | Yellow. |
| 11:25.25 | Imperios | Saim-Hann = Eldah who paint their armor red |
| 11:25.32 | Imperios | Like fast thinga |
| 11:25.43 | OluapPlayer | Ork Eldar |
| 11:25.49 | OluapPlayer | Slaanesh is screwed |
| 11:25.55 | Imperios | Are very savage to the point they fight each other |
| 11:25.59 | Imperios | sometimes |
| 11:26.17 | Imperios | And are divided in clans |
| 11:26.21 | Imperios | Basically |
| 11:26.26 | Imperios | Eldorks |
| 11:26.55 | MasterMachine | Ello. |
| 11:27.01 | Imperios | Hi |
| 11:27.31 | Imperios | Biel-Tan |
| 11:27.59 | Imperios | White, angry, hate xenos, want to make a huge Eldah Empire. |
| 11:28.49 | MasterMachine | I hate my work... my paycheck better be at least $100 for waking up at 5:30 on a sunday to get there at 7:30... then working all day.... urg :( |
| 11:29.03 | MasterMachine | So, wazzup on ur side of the pond? |
| 11:30.07 | Imperios | Nice |
| 11:30.30 | Monet_ | Germany is trying to fix what capitalism ruined. |
| 11:30.47 | MasterMachine | How? |
| 11:30.51 | MasterMachine | And huh? |
| 11:31.05 | MasterMachine | (hasn't been keeping up with politics recently) |
| 11:32.26 | Monet_ | Not sure, they're trying to take charge of the Eurozone crisis. Oh yeah and Silvio Bellisconi of Italy has resigned. |
| 11:34.31 | MasterMachine | Wow... you know, if humans could just manage to not be greedy little bastards for once they could probaly have that crisis wrapped up in... 10 minutes or so (which is how long it would take to make a few money transfers and sign some papers I'm sure). Didn't Germany not want to lend money? |
| 11:35.06 | MasterMachine | As for Silvio... well, I had no idea who the leader of Italy was anyway, now I have even less an idea :P |
| 11:35.39 | Ghelae | If most politicians weren't as self-interested as they are, they probably wouldn't have made it into politics in the first place. |
| 11:36.10 | MasterMachine | And therin lies the problem :/ |
| 11:37.28 | Imperios | Hmmmmmmmmm |
| 11:42.16 | Imperios | Hmmmmmmmmm, |
| 11:42.22 | Imperios | o |
| 11:42.46 | Imperios | Any ideas how to call a Radeon APC |
| 11:42.47 | MasterMachine | :/ |
| 11:43.09 | MasterMachine | APC? |
| 11:43.21 | Imperios | Armored personal carrier |
| 11:43.33 | MasterMachine | Hmmmz |
| 11:43.46 | Monet_ | Something religious... something religious... Pilgrim? |
| 11:43.47 | MasterMachine | Radeon APC isn't good enough? |
| 11:44.00 | Imperios | Yeah, nice idea, Monet |
| 11:44.11 | Imperios | RHINO |
| 11:44.27 | MasterMachine | I like simple and to the point... hence all my ships being named after what they're best at. |
| 11:44.34 | MasterMachine | For the most part anyway |
| 11:44.40 | MasterMachine | RHINO? |
| 11:44.58 | Imperios | That is an APC from Warhammer 40000 |
| 11:45.03 | MasterMachine | Ah |
| 11:45.40 | Monet_ | Draconis don't name vehicles other than spaceship classes, they may nickname them but they usually stick to a code. |
| 11:46.55 | MasterMachine | Wentals have name classes that basically tell you what the ship does. Planet Consumer eats planets. Dreadnaught is big and dangerous. Heavy Hauler hauls heavy stuff. They're too lazy to think up better names lol |
| 11:46.56 | Monet_ | For example a Draconis APC would be called a TPt-72 (Transport Personnel tracked - version 72). |
| 11:47.48 | Technobliterator | hur UNO name everything |
| 11:50.18 | Monet_ | Draconis have gone through thousands of versions of all sorts of vehicles so why give them a name every time? |
| 11:51.20 | Ghelae | The Girdo Empire only ever used a few vehicles, because they always carefully designed them with the possibility of future upgrades in mind. |
| 11:51.33 | Ghelae | And then gave them vague names like "Artillery" and "Destroyer". |
| 11:51.36 | Imperios | What about |
| 11:51.41 | Technobliterator | same with UNO |
| 11:51.55 | Imperios | Like, Metal Box 72 |
| 11:52.11 | Ghelae | I've just remembered: Did you ever ask Xho about why Xanthrus was kept in the post-Annihilation Gigaquadrant maps? |
| 11:53.03 | Monet_ | That's what Draconis did with spaceships. There are some vessels that have been refitted, repaired and upgraded so much you wouldn't have guessed they were comissioned over 200,000 years ago. |
| 11:53.27 | Technobliterator | No |
| 11:53.36 | Technobliterator | I don't know why it still exists |
| 11:54.39 | Imperios | Ask Xho so |
| 11:54.49 | Xho | I don't know either |
| 11:54.56 | OluapPlayer | lol |
| 11:54.57 | Xho | I made a map from your sources |
| 11:55.01 | Technobliterator | hur why did you keep it |
| 11:55.02 | Technobliterator | Oh |
| 11:55.13 | Technobliterator | I'll just paint over it? |
| 11:56.47 | Xho | Wait which map is this |
| 11:57.19 | Technobliterator | Post-Annihilation Gigaquadrant map? I'm not sure what the name is |
| 11:57.20 | Monet_ | Gigaquadrant. |
| 11:57.22 | Technobliterator | Ghelae: wat map |
| 11:57.48 | Xho | http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110709144839/spore/images/d/d9/FirstGigaquadrantBeta2.png If you're talking about this one |
| 11:57.53 | Xho | That does need updating |
| 11:58.02 | Xho | If you want me to update it now |
| 11:58.03 | OluapPlayer | get to it :> |
| 11:58.17 | Xho | Bunsen's not there either so |
| 11:58.21 | Xho | That needs to go in |
| 11:58.42 | Xho | So Xanthrus is destroyed? |
| 11:58.53 | Technobliterator | yeah, as we have no need for it |
| 11:59.04 | Xho | Fair enough |
| 11:59.08 | Technobliterator | I'd wait to Mush says where he wants the Ravenrii, in case there's a new galaxy |
| 12:01.30 | Xho | Is Bunsen Mid or High Influence |
| 12:02.10 | Xho | Anyone? |
| 12:02.11 | OluapPlayer | Mid I guess |
| 12:02.30 | OluapPlayer | I would actually say Low |
| 12:02.43 | OluapPlayer | As only important thing in there is the TIAF |
| 12:02.53 | Xho | Fair enoug |
| 12:02.56 | Xho | eough |
| 12:02.57 | Xho | AAGH |
| 12:03.00 | Xho | You get the idea |
| 12:03.02 | OluapPlayer | dohoho |
| 12:03.08 | Technobliterator | Bunsen's only a small galaxy |
| 12:03.10 | Technobliterator | Correct? |
| 12:03.28 | Xho | I don't know |
| 12:03.35 | Xho | I don't look at galaxies, I destroy galaxies |
| 12:03.37 | Technobliterator | pretty sure it is |
| 12:03.39 | Ghelae | [[Fiction:Bunsen Galaxy]] |
| 12:03.39 | Technobliterator | lol |
| 12:03.40 | morgothBotPy | Ghelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Bunsen_Galaxy |
| 12:03.41 | OluapPlayer | lol |
| 12:03.57 | Xho | That's big |
| 12:04.00 | Xho | ish |
| 12:04.03 | Ghelae | "600 to 700 billion systems". |
| 12:04.04 | Xho | Halo is 200K lu |
| 12:04.06 | Xho | ly |
| 12:04.10 | Ghelae | It's bigger than the Milky Way. |
| 12:04.10 | Xho | Yeah that's pretty big |
| 12:04.14 | Xho | I'll put Mid |
| 12:04.20 | Technobliterator | i don't think it should be |
| 12:04.31 | Xho | Agh make up your mind I don't have all day you know |
| 12:04.45 | Imperios | But most of it is uncontrolled |
| 12:04.48 | OluapPlayer | Yes you do |
| 12:05.01 | Ghelae | I would think that "low importance" is for galaxies that are almost completely unnotable. |
| 12:05.04 | Xho | :< Y U C THROO ME |
| 12:05.11 | Technobliterator | low |
| 12:05.13 | Ghelae | Like the Milky Way satellites. Most of them aren't even inhabited. |
| 12:05.23 | Technobliterator | maybe |
| 12:05.26 | Technobliterator | Bunsen is a sattellite? |
| 12:05.27 | Ghelae | Then again, if Mirus is low, Bunsen should be too. |
| 12:05.35 | Technobliterator | Mirus could be too |
| 12:06.25 | Xho | SSSSS |
| 12:06.33 | Xho | You're making this hard |
| 12:06.43 | Ghelae | Put Bunsen as low. |
| 12:07.19 | Xho | Finally, thank you |
| 12:07.28 | Xho | Now what about Mirus |
| 12:07.36 | Ghelae | Keep it as low. |
| 12:08.36 | Ghelae | On the other hand, since there are so few galaxies, maybe there's no need for the colour code. |
| 12:08.38 | Xho | Ok, now into the GIMP to repair that space in the Wall |
| 12:08.45 | Xho | But it looks purty like dat |
| 12:08.51 | Ghelae | ...Yeah, just keep the colours. :D |
| 12:09.07 | OluapPlayer | lol |
| 12:11.32 | Ghelae | Technobliterator: Based on your discussions with Mush, are you not planning to use the http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Artrus_Territories ? |
| 12:11.55 | Technobliterator | Ghelae: I don't think there's any use for them |
| 12:12.03 | Technobliterator | But we'll have to await his response first |
| 12:12.05 | *** join/#sporewiki Wormy (519c5354@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.156.83.84) |
| 12:12.09 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:12.17 | Wormy | hi |
| 12:12.29 | Ghelae | We've been discussing galaxies. |
| 12:12.31 | Ghelae | Again. |
| 12:12.52 | Wormy | I know, is it about the CoreEmp's residence? |
| 12:13.11 | Ghelae | Mostly, yes. |
| 12:13.17 | Wormy | Ah |
| 12:13.27 | OluapPlayer | eek a grimby |
| 12:13.39 | Technobliterator | I asked Mush what he thinks |
| 12:14.11 | Technobliterator | As he's aware of the cleanslate, he'll probably be the best to tell us where they live |
| 12:14.15 | Wormy | I think we should retconn so the CoreEmp never left the Xanthrus Cluster, and still reside in the Xanthrus galaxy. And remove excessive numbers for the CoreFed, where they controlled 200- gfalaxies BOOO |
| 12:14.30 | Imperios | Yeah |
| 12:14.35 | Wormy | *2000 |
| 12:14.50 | Imperios | Mush y r u so megalomaniacal |
| 12:15.27 | Technobliterator | That''d remove the point of the Core Empire's creation |
| 12:15.29 | Wormy | Either that, or where they retreated behind the wall, the real Raven'Rii protected them from the Annihilation. However, they would behind the Archdemon Wall and possibly rendered inactive. |
| 12:15.36 | Technobliterator | I want Xanthrus to still be ded |
| 12:15.42 | Xho | http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d9/FirstGigaquadrantBeta2.png There we go |
| 12:15.44 | Imperios | By the way |
| 12:15.48 | Technobliterator | hur Wormy stop calling them Raven'Rii |
| 12:16.00 | Xho | Wait now you're discussing whether we should keep Xanthrus? |
| 12:16.04 | Xho | Fuck this i'm outta here |
| 12:16.04 | Wormy | why |
| 12:16.14 | OluapPlayer | coward hur |
| 12:16.20 | OluapPlayer | Archdemon's Wall = Giygas |
| 12:16.21 | Imperios | Mushroom or Techno could use one trick to find a haven for the empire of the Core. |
| 12:16.32 | Imperios | Nobody used this trick before save for me |
| 12:17.19 | Wormy | Either that, or the Raven'Rii ARE the CoreEmp and they ascended. |
| 12:17.58 | Xho_Away | I remember Mush typing Ravenri'i or something like that once |
| 12:18.02 | Imperios | Do you know the trick? |
| 12:18.04 | Xho_Away | Ravenr'ii? |
| 12:18.05 | Xho_Away | I dunno |
| 12:18.09 | Wormy | The CoreEmp would be nowhere to be found |
| 12:18.10 | Technobliterator | it isn't |
| 12:18.22 | Imperios | I just call them nudies. |
| 12:18.22 | Xho_Away | Yeah he just types it as Ravenrii now |
| 12:18.27 | Technobliterator | mhmm |
| 12:18.33 | Technobliterator | Xanthrus isn't kept though |
| 12:18.35 | Xho_Away | But I remember him doing something like that when he first joined |
| 12:18.36 | Technobliterator | That's decided |
| 12:18.42 | Xho_Away | So where is the CorEmp now then |
| 12:18.52 | Technobliterator | wherever mush says |
| 12:19.02 | Technobliterator | probably milky way |
| 12:19.05 | Xho_Away | If he says ascended to a higher plane of existence |
| 12:19.06 | Wormy | No |
| 12:19.08 | Imperios | Use the trick, Luke. |
| 12:19.09 | Xho_Away | I will officially go mental |
| 12:19.12 | Technobliterator | They won't |
| 12:19.18 | Technobliterator | I've assured him that he didn't say that |
| 12:19.19 | Ghelae | Imperios: Are you going to tell us what the trick is? |
| 12:19.28 | Imperios | Trick is. |
| 12:19.34 | Wormy | The Milky Way is too crowded for such a bloated civilisation. |
| 12:19.43 | Ghelae | Bunsen isn't. :D |
| 12:19.43 | Imperios | Making empire settle OUTSIDE of the Galaxies |
| 12:19.44 | Technobliterator | Xho_Away: "Just make sure to make clear their astonishment at the Xhoddies' not being around anymore-shocking them back into their usual existence would be a good way to explain the change." |
| 12:19.49 | Wormy | Plus it messes up The Randomness and Jovar's plans. |
| 12:20.07 | Xho_Away | doesn't get what that means |
| 12:20.17 | Imperios | In the intergalactic space |
| 12:20.25 | Technobliterator | basically, Obvia'Atra are a bi shocked that the Xhodocto aren't around anymore |
| 12:20.47 | Technobliterator | So they are just like 'fuk dis' |
| 12:20.54 | Ghelae | Imperios: That idea's all well and good, but how will they get enough material for their oversized spaceships? :P |
| 12:21.41 | Wormy | Ghelae: They just bring the ships and live like space Nomads |
| 12:21.48 | Ghelae | Yes, that would work. |
| 12:22.01 | Imperios | Ghelae: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0yQg8kHVcI&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
| 12:22.01 | Wormy | H O G O M O T H |
| 12:22.10 | Imperios | Yeah |
| 12:22.10 | Technobliterator | Empire of the Core aren't like that |
| 12:22.15 | Imperios | DEIAR |
| 12:22.16 | Technobliterator | Tehy're meant to be all utopian |
| 12:22.38 | Ghelae | Some of their ships are practically planets themselves. |
| 12:22.54 | Imperios | yep |
| 12:23.01 | Technobliterator | that could work |
| 12:23.03 | Imperios | Like |
| 12:23.06 | Imperios | ELDAH |
| 12:23.07 | Ghelae | They could easily just set them into orbit around any star, without there having to be planets around the stars themselves. |
| 12:23.18 | Technobliterator | Or they could live on some sort clouds like the Magellanic? |
| 12:23.31 | Ghelae | They could settle in the smaller satellite galaxies too, yes. |
| 12:24.13 | Technobliterator | Magellanic is a sattelite? |
| 12:24.23 | Technobliterator | I always thought it was just a thing hoverng |
| 12:24.27 | OluapPlayer | lol |
| 12:24.46 | Ghelae | "A thing"? :P |
| 12:24.57 | Technobliterator | i dunno! |
| 12:25.03 | Ghelae | A nebula? |
| 12:25.21 | Ghelae | No, they're just a pair of small galaxies. :D |
| 12:25.29 | Technobliterator | yeah a nebula |
| 12:25.39 | Technobliterator | i'd like them to live in one of them |
| 12:25.51 | Ghelae | But satellite galaxies would be a good place for the CoreEmp to settle in, too. |
| 12:26.02 | Ghelae | Just like intergalactic space, but with more stars. |
| 12:26.26 | Technobliterator | Where's the plaec for the Magellanic cloud? |
| 12:26.34 | Ghelae | It's in orbit of the Milky Way. |
| 12:26.44 | Ghelae | And there's two Magellanic Clouds. |
| 12:26.50 | Technobliterator | the two then |
| 12:26.58 | Ghelae | There are other satellites they can use, too. |
| 12:27.09 | Ghelae | In fact, all of the major galaxies could have dozens of small satellites around them. |
| 12:27.30 | Ghelae | Those of the Milky Way and Andromeda are just the most studied so far. |
| 12:28.18 | Ghelae | They might as well spread themselves out across the Gigaquadrant. |
| 12:29.45 | Ghelae | Also... does anybody know what the point in the Nimbus and Graxea galaxies were? |
| 12:29.45 | Monet_ | I'm amased really: When I joined in August Andromeda was dull and quiet. Now I think it has really woken up thanks to the Androemda War. |
| 12:30.10 | Ghelae | Andromeda was quiet because, until the Annihilation, it was mostly controlled by the Vartekian Empire. |
| 12:30.40 | Wormy | Oh great |
| 12:30.51 | Ghelae | Then, we decided that the Vartekians had been mostly beaten back in a war that *was* being worked on before, but then became inactive when Richardson72 left the wiki. |
| 12:30.52 | Monet_ | And they joined the CAS when Richardson left. |
| 12:30.56 | Ghelae | Yes. |
| 12:30.56 | Wormy | Two dwarf galaxies suddenly swamped by a massive empire |
| 12:31.12 | Ghelae | Wormy: At least two. |
| 12:31.15 | Ghelae | :D |
| 12:31.33 | Monet_ | Wormy: Which ones? |
| 12:31.44 | Ghelae | The Magellanic Clouds. As we were just talking about. |
| 12:31.56 | Monet_ | Oh right. |
| 12:32.01 | Wormy | As long as it doesn't mess it up for the MSP - Grox - Mantisorac futures there |
| 12:32.15 | Technobliterator | They won't live in the Magellanic clouds |
| 12:32.21 | Technobliterator | Just something like them |
| 12:32.33 | Wormy | Theres lots of satellites for the Milky Way |
| 12:32.36 | Ghelae | Maybe any satellite galaxies that aren't already inhabited? |
| 12:32.45 | Ghelae | And perhaps some places in intergalactic space, too. |
| 12:32.55 | Ghelae | I mean, we have all those "Intergalactic Rifts". Why not use them all? |
| 12:32.58 | Technobliterator | but adding a satellite = addng a galaxy |
| 12:33.00 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Milky_Way's_satellite_galaxies |
| 12:33.16 | Wormy | No, because those galaxies *were already there* |
| 12:33.33 | Wormy | The simplist thing is keep the Xanthrus galaxy |
| 12:33.48 | Wormy | We did say, we would put backl galaxies if we have to. |
| 12:33.49 | Technobliterator | we aren't keeping xanthrus |
| 12:34.05 | Wormy | Who gives you the authority? |
| 12:34.10 | Technobliterator | mush did |
| 12:34.22 | Ghelae | Pretty stupid question there, Wormy. :P |
| 12:34.34 | Ghelae | That's how this whole topic came about. |
| 12:34.37 | Wormy | Well Mush's ideas didn't work because he doesn't seem to the follow the constraints other users do |
| 12:34.56 | Technobliterator | >implying they existed at the time |
| 12:35.05 | Ghelae | Of course, Mush could still decide to keep Xanthrus... |
| 12:35.11 | Ghelae | We'll just have to see what he says. |
| 12:35.16 | Wormy | If the Comunity decides keeping Xanthrus is the best option and we retconn, the whole matter becomes very simple. |
| 12:35.43 | Monet_ | <<M101: Often viewed as the shining beacon of democracy. This has rich confederates and republics and is often the most peaceful>> Not any more :) |
| 12:36.39 | Wormy | What I stated is exactly what I would do to be honest. |
| 12:36.50 | Wormy | And it would be over in 5 minuites |
| 12:36.55 | Technobliterator | gah |
| 12:37.00 | Technobliterator | just let mush decide |
| 12:37.09 | Technobliterator | if he can't, we will |
| 12:37.24 | Wormy | Mush decisions, I hate to be mean haven't been very good ones. |
| 12:37.59 | Technobliterator | but he knows about the knew rules now |
| 12:38.01 | Wormy | What if he says something else? |
| 12:38.05 | Technobliterator | if his decision sucks, then we change |
| 12:38.24 | Wormy | We don't need his decision, its your fiction now! |
| 12:38.36 | Ghelae | Maybe just suggest the satellite/intergalactic idea first... :D |
| 12:38.47 | Technobliterator | we don't need it |
| 12:38.49 | Technobliterator | but i want it |
| 12:39.06 | Technobliterator | I've suggested satellite like the Magellanic cloud |
| 12:39.37 | Wormy | Can you suggest all options. |
| 12:39.53 | Wormy | *The Satellites |
| 12:40.01 | Wormy | *Keeping Xanthrus and retconning |
| 12:40.03 | Technobliterator | i have |
| 12:40.05 | Technobliterator | just not bullet points |
| 12:40.22 | Wormy | *Or having the CoreEmp behind the Archdemon WAll. |
| 12:42.56 | Xho_Away | I just found the very centre of the Minecraft world |
| 12:43.17 | Technobliterator | wat |
| 12:45.06 | Xho_Away | Well it's x: 0 z: 0 |
| 12:45.50 | OluapPlayer | yor dum |
| 12:46.43 | Technobliterator | wat is dis |
| 12:48.21 | Wormy | Perhaps the CoreEmp's ships just roam about Interagalactic space, creating their own temporary minature suns for their ships to orbit. |
| 12:48.41 | Technobliterator | removes the utopian feel of them |
| 12:48.50 | Wormy | Why? |
| 12:48.59 | Wormy | They have all their needs on their ships. |
| 12:49.05 | Wormy | and Ring worlds |
| 12:49.17 | Wormy | and they can create theor own stars |
| 12:49.26 | Wormy | That is very efficient. |
| 12:49.36 | Technobliterator | i don't know, it just makes them feel like they're wondering nomads |
| 12:50.13 | Wormy | The sheer fact that in the SporeWikiverse, empires colomise space isn't that different. |
| 12:51.56 | Imperios | Yeah |
| 12:52.23 | Imperios | And wandering nomads can still be nice and advanced |
| 12:52.26 | Imperios | One world: ELDAH |
| 12:52.44 | OluapPlayer | eldahs dum |
| 12:52.54 | OluapPlayer | Throw a Zoanthrope in their planets and they are toast |
| 12:54.00 | Imperios | Doom of Malan'tai dum |
| 12:54.12 | Imperios | And Eldah can outscheme ya |
| 12:55.04 | OluapPlayer | Or ye can go WAAAGH! on dem pointy eared gitz |
| 12:56.44 | Imperios | Then Eldah have Saim-Hann |
| 12:56.56 | Imperios | Who can outWAAAGH Orkz. |
| 12:57.28 | Wormy | The end is nigh |
| 12:57.29 | OluapPlayer | wat |
| 12:57.55 | Wormy | Thats what I told Jehoviuce Witnesses that knocked on my door |
| 12:58.01 | Wormy | And they said |
| 12:58.12 | OluapPlayer | "Get a life" |
| 12:58.13 | OluapPlayer | :> |
| 12:58.17 | Imperios | Yesh? |
| 12:58.29 | Wormy | "Hallelujah"! |
| 12:58.51 | Wormy | They were trying to tell me the wold would end. |
| 12:58.59 | Imperios | Hur |
| 12:59.29 | Imperios | They have weird translation of Bible, that's why they are so lpomy |
| 12:59.35 | Imperios | loony |
| 12:59.39 | Wormy | After my attempt at converting them to athiesm, they gave me a book obviusly made to convert athiests. The nooklet is full of errors. |
| 12:59.48 | Imperios | In a nutshell, they are HERETICS |
| 12:59.53 | Imperios | Like? |
| 12:59.53 | Wormy | *booklet |
| 13:00.44 | Wormy | Can't remember now, the book is in the bin. |
| 13:01.02 | Wormy | *booklet. |
| 13:01.45 | Wormy | Ah wait |
| 13:01.50 | Wormy | They did the same last year |
| 13:01.55 | Wormy | Lets have a look... |
| 13:04.08 | Wormy | Even if life was created, the creator is not my god. I'd just call them alien. |
| 13:04.32 | Imperios | I met Jehovah's Witnesses |
| 13:04.32 | Imperios | I laughed at them (it was a phone call) and they left |
| 13:04.46 | Imperios | Deism? |
| 13:05.15 | Imperios | Deism is the.concept that the creator God exists but he does nog interfere with humanity |
| 13:05.42 | Wormy | I'd be Deist if God was proven. |
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| 13:06.04 | OluapPlayer | irc dum |
| 13:06.10 | Xho_Away | Brb Lunch |
| 13:06.38 | Imperios | I am pure agnostic |
| 13:06.46 | Imperios | Since I dunno |
| 13:07.38 | Wormy | I'm an athiest, since I do not believe or have felt in a guiding presence. However, I experienced my own self as the very being making all the intelligent observations |
| 13:07.52 | Wormy | So I'm more Humanist |
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| 13:08.24 | Imperios | Hur |
| 13:08.26 | Irskaad | Boo |
| 13:08.29 | Imperios | Hi Irsk |
| 13:08.30 | Wormy | The last sentence, don't misinterpreate it into thinking I think I'm god or anything |
| 13:08.44 | Irskaad | What sentence? |
| 13:08.46 | Imperios | We are discussing relijon now, u are free to join |
| 13:08.59 | Imperios | AND GOD AM IIIII |
| 13:09.01 | Wormy | But all are perceptions in my opinion. |
| 13:09.03 | Technobliterator | hur i'm agnostic |
| 13:09.18 | Imperios | You are agnostic theist. |
| 13:09.29 | Imperios | I am agnostic agnostic. |
| 13:09.30 | Technobliterator | not much of a theist |
| 13:09.46 | Imperios | Heck |
| 13:09.51 | Imperios | I am confused now |
| 13:09.59 | Technobliterator | It's like, religion is fine in many ways but needs to move on in more |
| 13:10.11 | Imperios | Exactly. |
| 13:10.23 | Technobliterator | It separates people when its purpose is to bring them together |
| 13:10.29 | Imperios | They can be a bit stupid sometimes. |
| 13:10.34 | Imperios | Xactly. |
| 13:10.52 | Technobliterator | they can be stupid, i just hate when people say they *are* stupid without knowing the facts |
| 13:11.00 | Irskaad | From Drakon page: "He shows great passion and love for all living creatures however he is less benevolent to those who favour the idea of a machine body." Hakonians are going to be pissed |
| 13:11.03 | Wormy | I am getting more spiritual though, but athiests can be spiritual as spirituality is not religion |
| 13:11.04 | Imperios | Relijon can be the source of both good and evil. |
| 13:11.15 | Technobliterator | ^ |
| 13:11.29 | Technobliterator | If it becomes more modernized it can be perfect imho |
| 13:11.41 | Wormy | Alan Watts - Atheist Spirituality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE5M8743a1s |
| 13:12.10 | Imperios | Infobot Imperios - Drakon u stupid hail Artmyris |
| 13:12.48 | Irskaad | Who's Artymris? |
| 13:13.07 | Imperios | I am agnostic because nothing can't be proven or disproven about divine. |
| 13:13.20 | Imperios | Irsk: Rambo god :P |
| 13:13.47 | Irskaad | Meh I don't believe in spirituality either |
| 13:14.10 | Technobliterator | It's been scientifically proven that Jesus was alive hur |
| 13:14.20 | Irskaad | Where? |
| 13:14.47 | Irskaad | Link to it? Please? Pretty Please? Pretty Xhoddie please? |
| 13:15.18 | Technobliterator | link? |
| 13:15.21 | Technobliterator | ok |
| 13:15.21 | Technobliterator | http://www.leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/docs/rediscover2.html |
| 13:15.21 | Wormy | Irskaad: You are actually cynical of it all, not sceptical |
| 13:15.29 | Technobliterator | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus |
| 13:15.30 | Irskaad | Cynical as in? |
| 13:15.43 | Technobliterator | http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_there_real_proof_that_Jesus_Christ_really_existed |
| 13:15.54 | Wormy | Well, you accept men like Julius Cesar exist? |
| 13:15.55 | Wormy | The Egyptian Pharoes |
| 13:16.01 | Wormy | So why not Jesus? |
| 13:16.08 | Technobliterator | ^ |
| 13:16.21 | Irskaad | In my opinion, Jesus was just a regular guy. No offense to anyone |
| 13:16.30 | Technobliterator | That could wel be true |
| 13:16.37 | Technobliterator | he might have just been a teacher |
| 13:16.38 | Wormy | I believe Jesus existed, but like what the Jewish think, I don't believe he was the Son of God. |
| 13:16.59 | Technobliterator | He might have said that as a way of teaching us |
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| 13:17.26 | Wormy | There's some evidence he travelled to Tibet and learned the ways of Buddhism, and he brough the knowledge back and he got famous for his ideas. |
| 13:17.37 | Wormy | Then killed |
| 13:17.46 | Technobliterator | that could well be true |
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| 13:18.50 | OluapPlayer | I just remembed I have to stay |
| 13:18.57 | OluapPlayer | as I need to talk to Luc |
| 13:18.58 | OluapPlayer | ssss |
| 13:19.17 | Irskaad | ssss is what Creepers do |
| 13:19.24 | Irskaad | Before they explode |
| 13:19.27 | OluapPlayer | No shit |
| 13:19.32 | Technobliterator | LOL |
| 13:19.32 | OluapPlayer | ~explode Irskaad |
| 13:19.32 | infobot | ACTION blows up Irskaad with bombs |
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| 13:19.43 | Imperios | Irsk |
| 13:19.46 | Irskaad | XD |
| 13:19.50 | Technobliterator | Irskaad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPJUBQd-PNM |
| 13:20.03 | Imperios | What are the points for your opinion towards religion |
| 13:20.13 | Irskaad | Lol /Bilde/Saftig6/ showed that to me |
| 13:20.25 | Technobliterator | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2rDbRUDkds |
| 13:20.45 | Irskaad | Well I don't see proof for spirits, spirituality, gods, etc. I think life is all material |
| 13:21.31 | Imperios | Sol, agnostic atheism? |
| 13:21.44 | Irskaad | No, strong atheist :D |
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| 13:22.07 | LotG | Hello people. |
| 13:22.14 | Imperios | Hi LotG |
| 13:22.15 | Irskaad | Yey LotGie! |
| 13:22.15 | Technobliterator | h |
| 13:22.17 | Technobliterator | *hi |
| 13:22.26 | OluapPlayer | LotG |
| 13:22.29 | OluapPlayer | I need to talk to you |
| 13:22.32 | OluapPlayer | ABOUT STOOF |
| 13:22.38 | LotG | Really? |
| 13:22.43 | OluapPlayer | yus |
| 13:22.48 | Technobliterator | yus |
| 13:22.50 | LotG | Am I in trouble? |
| 13:22.51 | OluapPlayer | I'll talk to you on private chat |
| 13:22.53 | OluapPlayer | Nope |
| 13:23.00 | Imperios | whyyy |
| 13:23.10 | Technobliterator | hur invlve me dam u |
| 13:23.11 | Wormy | IrskaadL What if consciousness is a quantum process like in Orch Or theory? |
| 13:23.11 | Imperios | I wanna know what is the thing |
| 13:23.40 | Imperios | Irskaad: Explain conciousness then. |
| 13:23.43 | Wormy | That could explain peoples spiritual experiences |
| 13:24.04 | Irskaad | Wormy: That would be a scientific breakthrough. Impy: Well, the mind creates consciousness. |
| 13:24.12 | Wormy | What is Qualia, what is emotion? |
| 13:24.25 | Wormy | They don't exist in the material world outside our brains? |
| 13:24.32 | Irskaad | Emotions are formed from the mind and I have no idea what Qualia is |
| 13:24.38 | Wormy | Qualia is things like colour and experience |
| 13:24.47 | Irskaad | Same, formed from the mind |
| 13:25.09 | Wormy | We can't percieve the entire world though |
| 13:25.13 | Imperios | Hur, Irsk does have a point. |
| 13:25.24 | Wormy | Like Qualia, everything else we experience is what we percieve |
| 13:25.29 | Technobliterator | how can we be sure |
| 13:25.35 | LotG | Hmm, I was thinking Irsk was gonna say "cuz it just is£ |
| 13:25.37 | LotG | Or something like that |
| 13:25.40 | Technobliterator | I say don't make opinions when you don't know about stuff |
| 13:25.50 | Wormy | Let me finish |
| 13:26.15 | Xho_Lunch | Ok i'[m back |
| 13:26.32 | OluapPlayer | hai |
| 13:26.36 | Wormy | Irskaad: Your brain is encased in complete darkness, the light and colour you see is your brain interpretating sensory data which cells in your eyes fired to your brain after recieving photonbs |
| 13:26.48 | Irskaad | Of course |
| 13:27.11 | Wormy | But that means everything you see, even the material, is perceptions in the brain. |
| 13:27.27 | Imperios | Simple as hell: We do not have, and probably will never have, enough information to be sure about existence of God. |
| 13:27.30 | Wormy | 99.99% of matter is actually empty space |
| 13:28.00 | Wormy | Atoms and their subatomic contituents exist is a state of superpostion ("in many states") |
| 13:28.15 | Irskaad | Lunch, bye |
| 13:28.24 | Wormy | And everything in the universe is interconnected at the quantum level |
| 13:28.42 | Wormy | Why don't we see this? |
| 13:29.19 | Wormy | In Orch Or theory, consciousness occurs at the quantum level |
| 13:29.45 | Wormy | During "Out of Body Experiences" the metabolic process in the neurons die |
| 13:29.55 | Wormy | Or NDE's |
| 13:30.22 | Wormy | But the information isn't destroyed immediatly |
| 13:31.07 | Wormy | And that "disembodied experience" could be scientifically proven by this. |
| 13:32.03 | Wormy | 2:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOvpF4tKTRU |
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