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13:11.49IrskaadBoo
13:12.14OluapPlayerEek
13:12.28Irskaad:D Zavvie got punished XD
13:12.36OluapPlayerYep
13:13.10OluapPlayerI though that he would never say he was sorry for a "wild animal"
13:13.19IrskaadPoor Zavvie so arrogant he deserved it
13:13.52OluapPlayerhttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6a/MiniZavrhos2.png Sad Mini Zavvie
13:14.21Irskaad:P
13:31.28IrskaadUpdated Zavvie's page, add quotes! :D
13:31.48OluapPlayerAlright
13:34.19OluapPlayerAdded 2 quotes :p
13:34.43IrskaadXD
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15:01.40OluapPlayerHello
15:01.49IrskaadHello!
15:02.29OluapPlayerIrsk, why did you striked Zavrhos's name in your navbox?
15:02.45IrskaadBecause he is inactive.
15:02.48GhelaeHi!
15:02.57OluapPlayerOh
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15:03.43LotGHello.
15:03.54IrskaadHello!
15:03.56LotGIs there such thing as a multiversal singularity?
15:03.59GhelaeHello!
15:05.26OluapPlayerHi LotG
15:05.32OluapPlayerCheck the new war update
15:05.41LotGA multiversal singularity is something that can exist in the Multiverse and not have a parallel Universe counterpart.
15:07.30GhelaeSo... something that only exists in one universe in the entire multiverse?
15:07.54LotGYes.
15:08.29LotGIs it possible? Can it happen?
15:08.47GhelaeThere's major Essence-related things, like the Omnipotent Four. I think there's only one Xhodocto Deathmarch, although they act in all parallel universes.
15:11.29GhelaeOther than that... I imagine it *is* possible, but there's nothing to really enforce it, so in some parallel universe the same thing could crop up multiple times.
15:11.43Ghelae"Object U" might be another example of a "multiversal singularity", too.
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15:12.44IrskaadMy computer shut down by itself while I was playing an adventure.
15:12.49LotGIs the Ring from the Xeelee Sequence a multiversal singularity?
15:13.30GhelaeIt probably would be, yes.
15:13.58GhelaeI don't know how multiversal singularities would work outside of the SporeWikiverse; it depends on the laws of the individual reality.
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15:14.18IrskaadSorry, closed it by accident.
15:14.27GhelaeWelcome back. :P
15:15.30LotGSee, I'm thinking of having a multiversal Singularity in my personal universe, called the Ring. It would serve as a gateway to all other parallel Universes. However, if there's only one, how could it exist in all others as the same one?
15:22.52LotGtest
15:23.41GhelaeIt could exist "between" the universes, with part of it emerging into each universe individually.
15:24.47LotGOr perhaps it is built within the fabric of the Multiverse somehow?
15:26.31GhelaePossibly.
15:27.09GhelaeIt's your universe; you can do whatever you want, especially as far as things such as interdimensional physics are concerned.
15:29.34GhelaeIt's not like we have any real-world knowledge on the subject that says that any of this isn't possible.
15:29.35LotGSuppose you're right. I just wanted to add a sense of realism.
15:42.10LotGtest
15:42.46OluapPlayertset
15:42.56OluapPlayerHave you seen Zavrhos being cursed again?
15:45.23LotGYes, I did.
15:45.40IrskaadZavvie's miserable again.
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15:46.36IrskaadUm2k9!
15:46.40Um2k9Hello!
15:46.53GhelaeHi!
15:47.27OluapPlayerHello
15:47.45LotGHello!
15:48.03Um2k9So, whats the current topic?
15:48.11IrskaadZavrhos is cursed again
15:48.15LotGMultiversal singularities.
15:48.42Um2k9Oh interesting
15:49.24OluapPlayerRainbow Snakes got pissed off with him
15:49.35OluapPlayerAnd now he is cursed for the second time
15:50.00LotGMultiversal singularities are objects that exist in all Universes and do not have an other Universe counterpart.
15:54.39LotGI'm wondering if they could exist.
15:55.32IrskaadIf gods can exist then multiversal Singularities could exist as well.
16:03.07GhelaeAnd he's talking about his own personal universe, too.
16:03.16GhelaeLike I said, yes, there's no reason why they can't.
16:03.56GhelaeIt's not like we know anything in the real world about how parallel universes should work that says that they can't.
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16:10.45CatfaceI'm sure everyone already knows but meh http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Emperor_Dylan
16:11.06LotGYes, we know.
16:11.21OluapPlayerHi and yes we know
16:11.32IrskaadPoor MasterMachine... :(
16:11.34LotGWe should ban him.
16:11.51LotGImage stealing, sockpuppeting, etc.
16:12.19CatfaceBAN THE DEMON!
16:12.52Catfacehttp://cdn.techipedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/ban_him_sm1.jpg
16:13.57OluapPlayerlol
16:14.30LotGI'm gonna make the Key in Spore.
16:14.35Catfacehttp://farm2.static.flickr.com/1186/3175221922_1efa0435b5.jpg
16:16.04LotGThe Key is a multiversal singularity that exists in the fabric of the Multiverse.
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16:23.43Um2k9Hi Dino!
16:23.48Dino___hello
16:23.52IrskaadDinoman!
16:23.56LotGHello!
16:24.05Dino___how are you a ll doing?
16:24.14IrskaadI am good.
16:24.26OluapPlayerHello Dino
16:24.31OluapPlayerThe war was updated today
16:24.32Dino___great to hear :D
16:24.42Dino___Hello Oluapplayer, are you also alright?
16:24.48OluapPlayerYes
16:26.09Dino___great to hear
16:27.53CatfaceHi Dino
16:28.06Dino___hell matthew
16:28.11LotGI've finished the Key, just gonna take a pic.
16:28.21Dino___the Key? Enlighten me on that LotG
16:28.26Dino___if you want ofcourse
16:29.20LotGThe Key is a multiversal singularity that was built by the Pioneers billions of years ago in my personal universe. It exists within the fabric of the Multiverse, and different parts of it exist in each Universe.
16:29.40LotGIt acts as a portal between Universes.
16:30.08Dino___oh interessting
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16:30.27OluapPlayerHi Val
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16:30.36LotGHi Xho.
16:30.37XhoHello
16:30.39IrskaadXho!
16:30.40LotGThe Key is a multiversal singularity that was built by the Pioneers billions of years ago in my personal universe. It exists within the fabric of the Multiverse, and different parts of it exist in each Universe.
16:30.43OluapPlayerHi Xho
16:30.46OluapPlayerI updated the war
16:30.50XhoI see
16:30.52Val_Hey
16:30.58XhoLOL AT ZAVRHOS
16:31.01XhoLOLOLOLOL
16:31.08XhoLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
16:31.21Val_:P
16:31.37OluapPlayerI expected you to have fuzzy feelings for this update
16:31.54IrskaadXD
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16:32.28Wormyhello
16:32.31LotGThe Key is a multiversal singularity that was built by the Pioneers billions of years ago in my personal universe. It exists within the fabric of the Multiverse, and different parts of it exist in each Universe.
16:32.34OluapPlayerHello Wormy
16:32.38OluapPlayerI updated the war
16:32.45Wormyoh cool
16:32.45Val_hey
16:32.53Um2k9Hi Wormy
16:33.07Um2k9And Xho and Dino!
16:33.12WormyI dunno what MasterMachine was playing at creating a third account
16:33.22XhoIt was a third account then?
16:33.22Um2k9Nor do I
16:33.25Um2k9Yep
16:33.27LotGBan him?
16:33.29Um2k9He admitted it
16:33.30XhoBwhahahaha I predicted it
16:33.31Dino___hello Xho and wormy
16:33.38Um2k9He said he wants to be banned for three days
16:33.40Dino___hello um
16:33.46Wormyhe must think whether he runs into a problem he can't be bothered to pick up on he will just hide/create new account
16:34.02Wormyhello Dino
16:34.04OluapPlayerSo he admitted it was him?
16:34.10Val_Hey Dino
16:34.18Wormyyeah
16:34.26OluapPlayerNo more excuses
16:34.30Val_:/
16:34.37Dino___hello Val
16:34.40OluapPlayerIT'S BAN TIME
16:34.43WormyI don't what to make of Sporemaster, I like some of the concepts in his fiction
16:34.47Dino___how are you doing? Read you recent update to the second tigirs war
16:34.49Dino___interessting plot
16:34.58Val_thanks
16:35.09Val_I plan on making the new species join the KH
16:35.21Wormybut then he steals images, used my fiction without permission and creates new accounts all the time
16:35.28XhoTo Zavrhos - “Hahahahahahahaha.....I can't wait to see the day you gag on your own saliva. Oh wait, that's today. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!”
16:35.28Wormyit gets annoying
16:35.55Um2k9He blaims it on medication apparently.
16:36.33LotGBan him. For a year.
16:36.40Val_LoL
16:36.53XhoForevurrrrrrr
16:37.06Val_Well my only argument against him are his off-topic images
16:37.33Val_he seems to not understand what "SPORE RE-LA-TED" is.
16:37.44Wormyyear is a bit long
16:37.57Dino___oh a new species, cool for the KH
16:37.59Val_if we ban him for a year he might not even come back
16:38.05Wormyfortnight at the very most
16:38.08WormyI ask
16:38.11OluapPlayerBanned for a year
16:38.13OluapPlayerAll 3 of them!
16:38.29WormyDo we ban users simply because we like them on wiki?  That isn't how it should be
16:38.42Val_I know
16:38.42IrskaadIf he is banned then how will I finish the war for Wental?
16:38.53LotGGet rid of War for Wental.
16:38.53XhoAAAH Corruption....I like teh stuff
16:38.55Um2k9I think at most he should be banned for a month
16:39.01WormyYeah and my fiction IO was planning with him?
16:39.09Val_Then don't ban him
16:39.13Val_end of argue
16:39.20OluapPlayerToo late
16:39.22OluapPlayerAlready banned
16:39.26XhoHow long?
16:39.27Um2k9Personally I would ban him for two weeks
16:39.29OluapPlayerBut I will lower the ban to a month
16:39.33Wormyso would I
16:39.38Wormytwo weeks
16:39.47XhoWait what
16:39.48LotGI would ban him.....forever.....
16:39.58WormySome us have fiction plans you knopw
16:40.08Val_Well that's the admins call
16:40.22LotGAww... okay a month or two weeks.
16:40.30Wormywe dan users because we don;t like them
16:40.36Wormy*don't
16:40.43Dino___inded
16:40.48Dino___but who is on the ban list then?
16:40.48LotGWe didn't like Lorg.
16:40.51WormyWhgat kind of a facist regime is that?
16:41.21Um2k9Lorg spammed Luc. Granted it was probably unintentional.
16:41.22XhoTeh Sporewiki regime! Bwahahaha!
16:41.26WormyI banned org for the repeated spamming
16:41.39Wormyand editing peoples pages
16:41.41OluapPlayerRules come before everything else, and rules were broken. Wikia's image guideline and the abuse of multiple accounts
16:41.47Wormynot because I dodn't like him
16:41.57Val_Op has a point
16:42.09Val_Honestly
16:42.15Val_I barely know him
16:42.17Wormyabuse of multiple accounts- merely having multiple accounts isn't abuse on its own
16:42.32OluapPlayerYou don't need more than one account
16:42.38Wormyif he used them as soxck puppets, then yes
16:42.46Wormyno
16:43.04LotGLets say that Um2k9 broke one of Wikia's rules (which of curse he wouldn't), would you ban him?
16:43.06WormyIt is generally prefered to use one alone
16:43.11LotGcourse*
16:43.19WormyDepends LotG
16:43.25XhoHeheheh
16:43.27OluapPlayerDepending of the broken rule, yes I would
16:43.32XhoSome stuff's going down with Zavrhos
16:43.37XhoCan't tell you though :D
16:43.51OluapPlayerXho wat u hidin'
16:43.52Um2k9I suppose if I was abusing my position then yes, I would have it coming.
16:44.01XhoNothing...nothing at all
16:44.06OluapPlayerNnngggghhh
16:44.12Wormyunder certain expections users can use multiple accounts but it must be noted on the wiki with good reason
16:44.18OluapPlayerSo yeah, I lowered MMachine's ban to 1 month
16:44.27OluapPlayerHe is also still allowed to edit his own talk page
16:44.38Wormythats fair enough
16:44.43Um2k9Indeed
16:44.52Val_Does he know about that?
16:44.58WormyHe needs to learn new accounts doesn't solve any problems
16:45.15WormyHe is using it to avoidd the mess he has created
16:45.41Val_I don't think it was mess, he got carried away...
16:45.52LotGI remember when Imperios was apparently banned for no reason, and none of us knew why. When stuff like that happens, that's when a backup account is useful.
16:45.52Val_from my point of view
16:47.03Val_I remember another user... Dino...21?
16:47.10Val_he had two accounts
16:47.14Wormyi'm talking about froim his point of view Val
16:47.21WormyYeah I do
16:47.32WormyDinomeno
16:47.41Wormyand Armageddon
16:47.41Val_that guy
16:47.49WormyBut they were friends i think
16:48.00WormyI think Dino had two but used only one
16:48.13WormyTyrannoFan also has two accounts
16:48.20Wormyi told him off
16:48.22Val_one was LT (laptop) and the other for his CPU
16:48.55OluapPlayerThere, I warned him on his talk
16:49.42GhelaeWill the copyrighted images that he uploaded be deleted too?
16:50.03OluapPlayerThey should
16:50.52Wormya heckload of them too
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16:52.48WormyI'm gonna start deletimg imagery
16:52.49ImperiosHiy. What a crown.
16:52.49GhelaeHello!
16:52.53GhelaeYep - http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&limit=500&type=upload&user=MasterMachine&hide_patrol_log=1&month=&year=
16:52.57LotGHello Imp.
16:53.03OluapPlayerHello Imperios
16:53.16WormyOMG how many?  lol
16:53.31OluapPlayerOh god
16:53.33OluapPlayerSo many
16:53.39LotGBALLS!!!!
16:53.43GhelaeWe should probably delete the unused images first - I know he removed a lot of them from the Inferno wildife page - so then we can see how many red links we're going to make.
16:53.46WormyHmm, we do a bit a day
16:53.50Um2k9Since January...
16:53.58Wormyyeah
16:54.26LotGI was editing the Collective of Eclipse page, and then it said Internet Explorer cannot display page!
16:54.49Dino___I only have one acount
16:54.51WormyLeave his Sporemaster images, he had hardly any anyway
16:55.07LotGI'm so angry I probably won't edit it for a few hours!
16:55.19Imperioshttp://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-500738819767
16:55.23Imperiospeople LIKE it?
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16:55.42Dino___yeah she is cool
16:56.11LotGShe looks like an early bird.
16:56.21OluapPlayerShe looks creepy
16:56.34OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Earthly_Pacifists So he has Spore after all
16:56.48Val_cool
16:57.06Wormy@Ghelae: Are you doing top to bottom?
16:57.09LotGProbs stolen.
16:57.38WormyHe has Spore but no GA
16:58.16GhelaeYes.
16:58.25GhelaeI'm also only deleting the unused images at the moment.
16:58.34GhelaeThere's plenty of them.
16:59.03CatfaceKILL THEM ALL!
16:59.26GhelaeI'm sure they'll all be deleted eventually.
17:00.13WormyI'll do bottom to top
17:00.27WormyNote: The space ones are probs public domain anyway
17:00.34Wormylike galaxy pics
17:00.47GhelaeYes.
17:01.08OluapPlayerhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/a/a7/Amebzian_Screen.png This is strangely cute
17:01.18CatfaceI think my zombie adventure will be done by saturday
17:01.35Val_will it include C&C Cat?
17:01.44Catface@OP Are you goin' soft on me, son?
17:01.49Catface@VAl Yes
17:02.04OluapPlayerQuite possibly
17:02.08OluapPlayer...:3
17:02.17OluapPlayerOh no I'm turning into an Asgord
17:02.29Catfacehttp://www.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/knitted_kitteh.jpg
17:02.54ImperiosHm
17:02.57ImperiosJust wondering
17:02.59OluapPlayerThese clothes must be very unconfortable for the animal
17:03.10Imperiosone of my future concepts of a new fiction is Amalgam
17:03.13Imperiospeople
17:03.14Imperiosput
17:03.15ImperiosNa'vi
17:03.16ImperiosOrks
17:03.19ImperiosYuuzhan Vong
17:03.23ImperiosFlood
17:03.26ImperiosTau
17:03.30ImperiosZerg
17:03.32Imperiostogether
17:03.35Imperiosyou geet Amalgam
17:03.45OluapPlayerSo?
17:03.55ImperiosNA'VI+ORKS+FLOOD+
17:03.57ImperiosREALLY
17:04.46OluapPlayerhttp://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=ast-500738836455%3Asast-500738836455 Woah
17:05.04ImperiosNa'vi are Na'vi
17:05.11Imperiosfrom Avatar
17:05.13Imperiosorks are guys Loron based on
17:05.21Imperiosand Flood is... Xho told ya.
17:06.18GhelaeI'm sure we all know what they all are.
17:06.28WormyI#m deleting MM's pics of Koldenwelt
17:06.29GhelaeHow exactly are you going to mix them all together?
17:06.53ImperiosWell
17:06.54Wormythey should be made in Spore or another program (msade creatively)
17:06.56Imperiosthey:
17:07.11ImperiosAre infecting things like Flood
17:07.28LotGAwesome fight scene! Skip to 2:49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCcznWK1Ko
17:07.29ImperiosLove nature like Na'vi. Also, share beliefs and some parts of culture
17:07.36ImperiosBiology is Orkish
17:07.53ImperiosWant to unite all things under Greater Good like Tau
17:08.04ImperiosLike Biotech like Yuuzhan Vong...
17:08.08Val_zerg?
17:08.33ImperiosZerg... Well, they can change DNA so they breed creatures like Zerg
17:09.04ImperiosShould I make them female-only?
17:09.29OluapPlayerWhy?
17:10.00LotGYes.
17:10.13Um2k9@Dino: Great updates to your ships!
17:11.01ImperiosBecause that will awesomize them even more, OP
17:11.15Dino___Thanks um
17:11.22ImperiosSo
17:11.28Dino___I like updating the ships to resemble mre and more the original versions
17:11.29OluapPlayerI don't see how that's the case
17:11.32Dino___only darn that comlexy meter!
17:11.37Imperiosshould I make Amalgam female-only?
17:11.41OluapPlayerBut if you want, go ahead
17:11.42Dino___and small range
17:11.45LotGYes.
17:12.19Um2k9Yes indeed. I don't like those limitations when creating, especially spaceships
17:13.32Dino___indeed, though I am quite satisfied how they turned out
17:14.47LotGI personally think they should've made Mech Parts Pack available to everyone.
17:15.27Dino___indeed
17:15.35Dino___that way you could creat mechanical creatures
17:15.44ImperiosYeah.
17:16.13Um2k9Indeed, they should
17:16.35Catfacehttp://www.simprograms.com/12752/dr-peppereas-spore-1-06-patch-and-14-mech-parts-download/
17:17.00IrskaadI downloaded the bot parts, but somehow I can't share creations with them
17:17.25Dino___did all notice, it seems the First Gigaquadrant is getting quieter with conflicts. Perhaps more peace??????????????????/
17:17.46LotGIs downloading those bot parts legal?
17:17.48OluapPlayerThat's a lot of interrogation points
17:17.51Um2k9Well the Vartekian War seems to have stopped
17:18.04OluapPlayerFirst Gig is currently being attacked by Shu'ulathoi, don't you foroge
17:18.06OluapPlayerforget
17:18.07CatfaceYed
17:18.28Catface*yes
17:19.18Dino___yeah indeed, but conflicts seem to focus more and more on a few points and now on a total fronties anymore
17:21.43LotGTotal fronties are my favourite types of battle.
17:22.35Dino___indeed
17:22.55Dino___full scale battles etc, but now a days it seems smaller and more pinpoint battle at a smaller scale
17:23.15GhelaeIt's probably partly because a lot of wars are now written as stories, not as articles, the latter of which are more capable of focusing on galaxy-wide campaigns.
17:23.24ImperiosYeajh
17:25.05Dino___indeed, that is also perhaps one of the reasons, but is fun to notice haha
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17:27.13dino____argh connection issues
17:27.20LotGCE technology section, [[Fiction:Collective of Eclipse#Technology]]
17:27.21morgothBotPyLotG meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Collective_of_Eclipse#Technology
17:28.07Um2k9brb Dinner
17:29.27LotGStarscream is Megatron's lapdog.
17:29.47GhelaeI think I've managed to meet up with Wormy, albeit in my case only by deleting unused images.
17:30.24WormyIn my case, I've done much the same, but, I deleted the evidently copyright violastions
17:30.34WormyI've left some images
17:30.40Wormythat look Public domain to me
17:30.51GhelaeAnd it looks like we've deleted about half of his uploads in total.
17:31.04CatfaceZombiez http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Spore_2011-05-05_12-27-31.png
17:31.15WormyThe Japanese have developed an artificial snog machine - Kiss Transmission Device #DigInfo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PspagsTFvlg
17:31.22GhelaeMaybe we can swap, now, if you've left some unused images (as I've probably left soem potential copyright violations).
17:31.24OluapPlayerzawmbeez
17:31.59Wormyalright
17:32.07WormyI've just got a few more tabs to go
17:32.21GhelaeCatface: Yes, I can see how those zombies are being very polite and inoffensive.
17:32.34GhelaeWelcome back, Dino.
17:33.13CatfaceGhrlae: I know! They are just pulling out their guts and such.
17:33.59Catface@Wormy That guy is sad
17:34.48Wormylol indeed
17:37.53LotGSo....
17:39.16OluapPlayer....oS
17:39.28GhelaeIrskaad: Should Mazipnos contact the Kraw+allies and give them some more help now? By my estimations, at this rate the FRA should be exterminated... ooh, by this time tomorrow. :P
17:41.56Catfacebbl
17:41.59Catfacebye
17:42.04OluapPlayerBye
17:42.12IrskaadGhelae: Sure.
17:42.46OluapPlayerFRA is taking a lot to die :p
17:43.38GhelaeThe donated Tokzhalan technolgy is partly an attempt to provide an in-universe justification for why the entire Kraw Galaxy isn't already in flames.
17:43.53Irskaad:P
17:44.01WormyI think MasterMachine is just very lazy
17:44.52IrskaadI read the Empire of Earthly Pacifists as "The Empire of Eastenders"
17:45.03Um2k9I replied to your message, Wormy!
17:45.25Um2k9@Irsk: God forbid that anyone would make a fiction with ''Eastenders'' in the title.
17:46.09OluapPlayerI don't get it :>
17:46.35WormyEastenders?
17:46.42WormyThats too depressing for SporeWiki
17:46.50Um2k9Indeed
17:46.59Wormy@OP: An overdramatic soap in the UK
17:47.12Wormyi still watch it though :/
17:47.15WormyI'm a bit nosey
17:47.22Um2k9gasps
17:47.54Wormy@Ghelae: Do you watch Eastenders?
17:48.05WormyI think Xho does
17:48.20GhelaeNo, of course not.
17:48.27GhelaeWhy would I watch *that*?
17:48.31Wormyhe told me it was on once and i was missing it
17:48.37WormyDunno
17:48.39Ghelae:D
17:48.43WormyI think its dreary
17:48.54Wormybut like the hypnotoad
17:48.58IrskaadI can't wait for May 10
17:49.11OluapPlayerWhat happens in May 10?
17:49.18Wormyit may fry the brain of the the moth yet it still flies to the flame
17:49.28IrskaadOnly a collosal event that nobody would want to miss.
17:49.49WormyEurotrash?
17:49.51Um2k9@Wormy: Every wedding generally ends in disaster, right?
17:49.54WormyI mean vision?  XD
17:49.55IrskaadNo, Eurovision.
17:50.03Um2k9lol
17:50.03Wormytrue
17:50.04IrskaadThe first semi, to be more precise.
17:50.30WormyTo be honest, I only watch it because I lugh at the singers
17:50.36OluapPlayerI can't wait for May 25
17:50.47Wormyat watch the Brits have uncoordionated dance party at end
17:50.56Wormyin comparison to other countries
17:51.02Um2k9Jedward is representing us. Hence May 10 will be the death of our dignity.
17:51.15LotGLOL
17:51.31WormyUK is always last
17:51.45LotGBTW, I just seen Grindor get his face ripped apart.
17:51.47OluapPlayerI'm gonna play now, bbl
17:51.52WormyIreland is about the only country which votes us
17:51.56Um2k9Ireland and the UK always vote for eachother
17:52.06Wormyand vise versa
17:52.33WormyI don't care, its not like you are supposed to vote your own country anyway
17:52.36IrskaadPortugal never made it to the top 5 since 1964
17:52.44Wormyhahahahahahah
17:52.54Irskaad:P We are so terrible XD
17:53.15Wormyyes indeed you are :D
17:53.18Wormyjk
17:53.44IrskaadIreland has 7 wins
17:53.51Irskaad7 is a xhoddie number
17:54.11Wormywhen was the last time UK won again
17:54.13Um2k9Really? I didn't know that
17:54.15Irskaad1997
17:54.24WormyIts because no one like the UK
17:54.36Wormybecause we didn't accept EU things like euros
17:54.49LotGLOL
17:55.15IrskaadYou Irish won 3 times in a row from 92-94
17:56.06Um2k9Ooh
17:56.26IrskaadLast time Ireland won was in 1996 with "The voice"
17:58.15IrskaadYou should be so proud Um2k9
17:58.42Um2k9I am really not very interested in the Eurovision, though sometimes I like watching the results
17:59.01IrskaadAhhh the voting, it's what first dragged me to the ESC :D
17:59.14IrskaadI think it was 2004, the first time I watched it.
17:59.53LotGNorway won like a dream.
18:00.08LotGI always remember Norway winning one of them.
18:00.19IrskaadDon't you mean like a fairytale?
18:00.32LotGYesh.
18:02.13Wormyclicks fingers
18:02.18Wormyjob done
18:02.25WormyI kept some public domain images
18:02.34Wormyand stuff made by him
18:02.46IrskaadHas any of you seen Thor?
18:03.00Um2k9http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_(Jedward_song) - 0_o
18:03.10LotGI am thinking of making the Collective of Eclipse's race.
18:03.12IrskaadLol
18:03.42WormyI worship Thor every Thursday in the legacy of my Viking forefathers
18:03.57IrskaadNo, Thor the movie.
18:04.18LotGThis race would not not be physically capable in most ways, but would be mentally strong.
18:04.19WormyI have seen Thor thunderbolts trike down demons and giants
18:05.06WormyMighty mjolnir
18:05.19Wormyhttp://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5535/mjolnir.jpg&imgrefurl=http://nefromax.org/refinance.php%3Fq%3Dmjolnir&h=736&w=500&sz=27&tbnid=rJDGQWVyYZ5vPM:&tbnh=141&tbnw=96&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmjolnir%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=mjolnir&hl=en&usg=__I5qTztji78ViqON8ynJPHDkYim0=&sa=X&ei=x-bCTZ_lJYKHhQePseCnBQ&ved=0CF8Q9QEwBw
18:06.07IrskaadAlso, why in the movie do they pronounce "Jottenheim" (With a J) as "Yottenheim"? J is diffrent from Y.
18:06.36Wormydialect/accent of course
18:07.14LotGSame with Germans. They would pronounce "wood" as "vood".
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18:09.12Wormyindeed
18:09.20WormyAccent is so diverse in the UK even
18:09.38WormyI can't even hear what my family from Whitby are saying to me
18:10.50Wormytest
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18:11.17IrskaadMy computer got an error.
18:16.35LotGtest
18:16.42Irskaadtset
18:21.06LotGCE technology section, [[Fiction:Collective of Eclipse#Technology]]
18:21.06morgothBotPyLotG meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Collective_of_Eclipse#Technology
18:24.19LotGAww =(
18:24.30IrskaadHold onm
18:25.11ImperiosVikings have a legend, I remember
18:25.15IrskaadDo they use the CE Calendar?
18:26.23LotGNo, they operate on the galactic days of their home galaxy. Meaning, how many days it takes for their home star to make a full circle around their galaxy's core.
18:26.39IrskaadOk.
18:27.52Imperiosabout how Christians came to Vikings
18:28.49Imperiosthey told a story that Thor called Jesus to duel, but he refused. XD
18:28.55ImperiosFacepalmy vikings
18:31.01XhoXenoarchy
18:31.05XhoHmmm
18:32.15LotGYes, their politics are beyond human comprehension.
18:32.55XhoOk
18:33.14Irskaadhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Shadow_fang Isn't that MasterMachine's smiley?
18:34.06XhoSomehow they come to an organized decision through incomprehensible discussion - crazy stuff
18:34.14XhoI doubt it is MasterMachine though
18:35.26WormyI invented xenocrhy simpky because the world is percieved differently by about every species, so according to its evolved abilities its socisl structures, if any could be radically different
18:35.44XhoAll these new users
18:35.47XhoI'm scared
18:35.54WormyThey are not beyonf human comprehension because it is superior, just because it is different
18:36.16WormyWell it feels like the wiki is belonging to us less doesn't it?
18:36.31Wormynow older users seem to be leavig
18:36.37LotGI meant it as in that their politics would be too confusing for humans to understand.
18:36.39Wormythey will probably surpass us
18:36.53WormyI mean, I wouldn't confusing
18:36.57XhoHmmmmm
18:37.03WormyFor instance, if aliens came to Earth
18:37.15XhoWait its May right?
18:37.17Wormythey might be more interested in the bacteria in Obamas gut
18:37.21Wormyyeah
18:37.25XhoIsn't Kezoreg 1 in Zazane Years now?
18:37.36LotGOh yeah....
18:37.42Wormyor looking at Washington DC as a superorganism
18:37.54Wormyrather than Obama himself
18:38.02IrskaadIn KRE years he's almost 1
18:38.12Wormythey may try to communicate with those
18:38.16XhoIn Xhodocto Years he's still 0 until he's 147
18:38.24XhoInteresting stuff, Wormy
18:38.55WormyOI think any life elsewhere in the universe is probably so alien communication is near impossible
18:39.24WormyI also think most spscefaring civs are Slwer Than Light Ones
18:39.29XhoThat does make sense
18:40.08XhoI can't imagine an outer-space life form with traits that could make them comprehensible
18:40.15WormySo this is what I mean by xenoanarchy.  Society, is a human concept after all
18:40.52WormyLook at a dog
18:41.10LotGAlso, there is the fact that the Collective's politics have never been witnessed by foreign races. And I'm not planning on revealing how they select their leaders.
18:41.18WormyIts world is built up my smells we can't understand because our brain isn't oriented to
18:41.27Wormy*by not my
18:41.50Wormyour brains are oriented to vision and touch
18:43.10XhoI just realized something
18:43.32LotGWhat?
18:43.42XhoIf Asgord petting causes damage to tissue and organs if prolonged...that means Kezoreg must be seriously brain damaged from Lezia petting him
18:44.12WormyIf I do build a personal universe, it will be a hard sci-fi (probably not as I am too tied down already with my fiction).  Slower than light civilizations etc.  It could still be awesome stuff, truly alien life, time dilation, dyson spheres etc.
18:44.23Wormylmao
18:44.51LotGI was trying to make the Collective hard sci-fi earlier when it came to a multiversal singularity.
18:44.59Xho...How come Asgord aren't brain damaged then? Well...they are but you know what I mean
18:45.30WormyThe real dyson spheres probably won't be solid.  They are probably made of computronium nanotech, but digital beings could live in these spheres in virtual worlds
18:45.30XhoUhh
18:45.31XhoIrsk
18:45.33Xho“The best wan who ever lived...”
18:45.38Irskaad99% of the Kraw Galaxy's empires don't have FTL Travel - Only 7 Empires have it.
18:45.38Xhoemphasis on wan
18:45.57LotGI'm sure you know what a multiversal singularity is, Wormy.
18:46.01IrskaadIsn't that "The best man who ever lived"?
18:46.05XhoNope
18:46.05Xhowan
18:46.12Irskaad>wat
18:46.13XhoTake a look
18:46.17Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Commander_Zavrhos
18:46.21Wormyyou mean an Omega point?  Timelike infinity?  Cauchy boundary?
18:46.29IrskaadGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
18:46.51LotGAn object that exists in all Universes and while it exists has no other Universe counterparts.
18:46.52XhoOh god, I don't like this Starwanderer guy
18:47.00XhoHe's...too friendly
18:47.36WormyI have too psuedo-Ω points.  My story "Immortal paradigm" and Times Terminel
18:47.59WormyThats basically a type of timelike singularity
18:48.04XhoIrsk
18:48.10XhoGrammatical error
18:48.14XhoNo wait
18:48.18XhoNot grammatical
18:48.22XhoErrm
18:48.24XhoCase error
18:48.34Xho'Man' doesn't have a capital on it
18:48.42IrskaadOMS
18:48.52LotGI was trying to find how a multiversal singularity could exist in real life.
18:49.07IrskaadWhy do some people say Man or Mankind and others say Human or Humanity?
18:49.19Wormy@LotG: Cauchy boundaries
18:49.35Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_value_problem
18:49.48Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauchy_boundary_condition
18:50.01Wormyehh,not bedtime reading
18:50.29XhoMan and mankind are older terms, I think
18:50.54Wormyindeed, in todays overly PC society it is humankind
18:51.12WormyMy teacher thinks it is silly, as Man and Woman are same species anyway
18:51.27Wormyso mankind covers all of humankind
18:51.47Wormyjust as saying womankind would lol
18:52.13Wormyyou can still use mankind or whatever, its author preference
18:52.38Wormy(not to gender, but to term lol)
18:54.11XhoI suggest mankind was used in the times where 'women weren't important'
18:54.18IrskaadLol
18:54.51LotGMankind cos in the Hebrew holy book, Adam came first, and from his rib came Eve. Man came first, so it is mankind.
18:54.58XhoIt's still used today of course but I guess it has more relevance
18:55.05Xho...
18:55.13XhoLuc that's a creation story
18:55.40XhoBut
18:55.43XhoYou're right
18:55.49LotG=D
18:55.53XhoAdam is Hebrew for 'Man' or 'Mankind'
18:55.59XhoI forget which
18:57.04XhoZazane Plush...I don't find them cute anymore
18:57.24LotGWhy?
18:57.38XhoI don't know
18:57.45XhoI've got increasingly evil since
18:57.59IrskaadWay too evil. :P
18:58.33LotGlol
18:58.58Irskaadhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human#Etymology
18:59.04Xhohttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110504194724/spore/images/2/28/Spore_2011-05-04_20-47-00.png Still though
18:59.16Irskaad:d
18:59.17Irskaad:D
19:00.15Wormybrb dinner
19:00.39WormyAwayyum leaf mulch is yum
19:00.40LotGhttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/13/Broqua_%281%29.png Yes, its called Broqua png, but its just a random name. Can anybody come up with a name for it?
19:01.16IrskaadArix? Kiorzo? Ivoiz?
19:01.22XhoAccording to Hindu units of measurement, The lifespan of Brahma is 311.04 trillion human years
19:02.12LotG311.04 trillion years is when the Universe will be destroyed, and Brahma will come back and start it up again.
19:02.21XhoProls
19:02.25XhoNo wait
19:02.30XhoThat's the age of Brahma now
19:02.42XhoNo wait
19:02.42Xho...
19:02.43LotG.....
19:02.44XhoHmmm
19:02.49IrskaadDinner, see you soon
19:02.50XhoNo that's his lifespan
19:02.52GhelaeHinduism is confusing, obviously.
19:02.59XhoYou're right
19:03.01XhoBye
19:04.05XhoIt's currently half way to the end of Brahma's lifespan
19:04.29LotGWhen is his birthday?
19:05.37XhoErrrm...
19:05.46XhoBrahma is the Hindu God of Time and Creation
19:07.03LotG......
19:07.33XhoYeah...he's a High God
19:07.33GhelaeYeah, but he obviously appeared at some time. Otherwise, his age would be infinite, not a mere 311.04 trillion years. :D
19:08.09LotGHis other main depictions are Vishnu and Shiva, gods of Protection and Destruction respectively. In fact, every Hindu god is just another depiction of Brahma.
19:08.28XhoYes
19:09.29LotGYou know, aliens probably won't have religions like we do.
19:09.59XhoHe's one of the three Deva, as you said it was Vishnu and Shiva
19:10.51XhoBrahma was self-born
19:12.49XhoThere is 1 day of Brahma, which is 4,230,000 years
19:12.50LotGVishnu was born from Brahma's naval, I can't remember how Shiva came along.
19:13.30XhoThere are the Four Yugas, which are divided from the divided 10,000 charanas
19:14.27XhoI might revise the Xhodocto Calendar
19:14.46XhoWhich should be more surrounded around their Gods
19:15.06LotGBRB
19:16.32XhoSince the Xhodocto's age is somewhat incomprehensible, 10^45 years is likely
19:19.14XhoOne Year in the new calendar is close to the age of Earth
19:19.26LotGI gtg dinner
19:19.32IrskaadBye.
19:20.03XhoIrsk r bak
19:20.12IrskaadYep.
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19:20.27NineeightHello!
19:20.35IrskaadConfused at all these charanas and Yugas, and whatever.
19:20.38Irskaad9988!
19:20.43Irskaad~Xho
19:20.55XhoHello
19:21.27NineeightHi!
19:21.35Nineeight~`How are you?
19:21.36infobotokay, Nineeight
19:21.53IrskaadI am good.
19:22.57XhoCurrently One Age in the new calendar is 22.75 trillion years
19:23.30IrskaadWill we finnaly know how old is kamik and when is his birthday?
19:23.39XhoWell...Self Creation
19:23.48XhoYes...I guess you will
19:24.01Irskaad:D
19:24.09IrskaadKomorians have that day as a holiday.
19:24.47XhoWell..it isn't a day
19:24.49XhoAs such
19:24.59IrskaadThen how is it like?
19:25.01XhoYou can't really count the date of the Omniverse's origin
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19:34.31IrskaadHow far are you in, Xho?
19:34.45XhoQuite far
19:34.57XhoI've currently accounted for 144,917,500,000,000,000,000 years
19:35.41IrskaadCool.
19:36.23LotG_AwayBack.
19:36.30IrskaadHello!
19:38.04XhoOne Kamik'Shi Cycle = 144,917,500,000,000,000,000 years
19:38.12IrskaadCool.
19:38.16XhoThe next measurement was the Tharitom of Kamik'Shi
19:38.18LotG_AwayWhoa
19:38.24XhoWhich is 100,000,000 Kamik'Shi Cycles
19:38.40XhoThey have their own names for these
19:40.10LotG_AwayBig numbers.
19:41.24XhoIt goes to the final measurement in the calendar which is the Age of the First Ones
19:41.36XhoWhich is about 150,000 Ages of Kamik'Shi
19:42.04Irskaad402 KRE = ? in Xhoddie calendar?
19:42.13XhoErrrrrrmmmm
19:42.49XhoDepends on how many days has passed since their New Year....
19:43.02XhoWhich was 4.55 billion years ago
19:43.16XhoAnd I mean Xhodocto Days
19:43.25XhoWhich 1 Day = 25,000 Years
19:45.05XhoLol, their current year started around the time Earth was formed
19:45.17XhoWhich means...their New Year is...very soon
19:46.25XhoHmmm let me calculate what year they're in
19:46.47XhoYear of the Rising Sun definitely
19:46.56XhoOh...their New Year passed
19:47.26XhoIrsk
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19:47.32Wormyhi again
19:47.35IrskaadYes?
19:47.38Xho402 KRE = 1st Day of the Setting Sun
19:47.40XhoHello Wormy
19:47.44IrskaadCool.
19:47.53IrskaadWormy!
19:48.03Xho25,402 KRE = 2nd Day of the Setting Sun
19:48.04IrskaadWormy, when are you doing that Tahar AI story?
19:48.18Wormysoon
19:48.21Xho50,402 KRE = 3rd Day of the Setting Sun
19:48.22Irskaad:D
19:48.27WormyI'm doing Opposition at the moment
19:48.33IrskaadOk.
19:49.31Xho4,549,999,598 KRE = 182,000th Day of the Setting Sun
19:49.36XhoDamn their sun sets slowly
19:49.56XhoIt's about 4.5 billion AD anyway
19:50.23IrskaadXho, you are a supreme god, do you know why?
19:50.29XhoWhai
19:50.45IrskaadBecause you created Kamik'Shi.
19:50.58XhoCreated?
19:51.01XhoI AM KAMIK SHI
19:51.03Xhoj/k
19:51.05IrskaadLOL
19:51.36IrskaadYou went on spore, created Kamik'Shi, and shared him on Sporepedia.
19:51.54XhoOk
19:52.10XhoOne Day of the First Life - 1.0144225 x10^32 years
19:52.51XhoThat means they must be in the early stages of the Second Day of the First Life then
19:53.03Irskaad:D
19:55.15XhoWait
19:55.29XhoNear the VERY END of the First Day
19:58.19XhoD: This calculates the Xhodocto's age
19:58.29Irskaad:P
19:59.20XhoThis calendar predicts their age as  9.9999999999989855775×10^44 years
20:03.42XhoWell...not really the end...it still has 101,442,250,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to go
20:06.18LotG_Awaytest
20:06.51XhoXhodocto Age =  D:
20:06.59XhoThe number is D:
20:07.05XhoThat is all I have to say
20:07.06XhoD:
20:07.38XhoHello Luc
20:08.45XhoDis stuff is mental
20:08.53GhelaeThen what were the Xhodocto doing for all of the time before the creation of the universe?
20:09.14XhoThat is so long ago the Xhodocto have forgotten
20:09.24XhoI guess it was constructing Hell
20:09.36GhelaeOr, in other words, "I don't know"? :P
20:09.52XhoPretty much.
20:10.02XhoBut Hell's construction is ~100% likely
20:12.00Wormy@Ghelae: **The Dark and Endless Dalek Night theme tune plays http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr89EG6cqPQ&feature=related** You...You didn't have to give the Kraw Dalkek technology!  What have you done!  NOOO  This means the Kraw will be the ressurection of the Daleks!  D:  Again...
20:12.11LotG_AwayWhy do Xhodocto do what they do?
20:13.03XhoTheir God's command?
20:13.17LotG_AwayOkay, so why does Kamik do what he does?
20:13.31XhoCycle of Life
20:13.34WormyLol cool that you noted the Neanderthal-Dalek origin!
20:13.46WormyIt will help the Thal-Human wars
20:14.11XhoOf course in the Xhodocto calendar you're not going to look past 22.75 trillion years
20:15.11GhelaeWormy: *cackles evilly*
20:15.14XhoBecause past that is speculation
20:15.21GhelaeWell, what do you expect? You were killing them all so easily!
20:15.51Um2k9Wormy, my grey subjects are not rebellious!
20:15.59GhelaeThere's nothing else to do *but* give them Dalek technology! Well... I wouldn't expect them to use things like graviton spheres properly.
20:16.21LotG_AwayNeanderthals with Dalek weaponry...........
20:16.55IrskaadOf course they won't, they'll mess up
20:17.00XhoSo...we know now the lifespan of a Xhodocto is at least 9.9999999999989855775×10^44 years
20:17.02WormyI suppose not many else stabd in the DCP way
20:18.22GhelaeThe warning not to overuse the Dalek transmat technology is partly out-of-universe - it's such a game-breaker, if they're used too much then somebody will decide that their empire will discover a means of blocking it.
20:19.05GhelaeIn-universe, if the Kraw commanders wonder why Mazipnos doesn't want them to use it so much... he'll have to pay them a visit personally.
20:19.39WormyTerragen Civ, Galactic Empire, Daleks, First Ones, The Culture, Time Lords and Daleks, Krassio and Cult, maybe Catharsis and Junction stand in the DCp's way directly
20:19.58WormyAnd for most of that list, not much
20:20.27GhelaeIn the SporeWikiverse, the Time Lords and Culture are both part of the First Ones, who have all left anyway.
20:20.33Wormyindeed
20:20.41Wormythey even helpe d the DCP
20:20.54GhelaeAlthough, the Krassio are their allies, so I don't think that matters for the purposes of the list.
20:20.57Wormyrescuing them from the Daleks
20:21.29WormyTerragen civ is prett equal technologically but has ruling Archailects
20:21.39Wormybut is much smaller
20:21.56Xhohttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110409123849/spore/images/8/82/BabyXhodocto.png How does this then turn into a being numerous times the age of the universe...I don't know
20:21.58GhelaeAnd, most crucially, has no FTL besides its small wormhole network.
20:22.11Wormytrue
20:22.15WormyFTL they lack
20:22.22IrskaadXho: Lezia - He's so cute!
20:22.37GhelaeAnd as for the Archais, you're trying to make the Civilisation like that with the Singularity, eventually.
20:22.43WormyOh SubXeelee humanity could fire neutrion stars into hyperspace speeds, nuff said there
20:22.46XhoFather - *Tears off Lezia's arm and gives it to the child; which he eats*
20:22.59Wormyyep, the Minds from The Culture novels
20:23.03Wormy*and the
20:23.13XhoI'm scared
20:23.21XhoSomething happened on my Recent Activity
20:23.33LotG_AwayWhat?
20:23.41GhelaeAnd it goes without saying that the DCP wouldn't stand a chance against the transapient races.
20:23.41XhoOh don't worry
20:23.51LotG_AwayXeelee vs Culture, who wins?
20:23.57WormyXEEELEE
20:24.00Wormy*Xeelee
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20:24.06GhelaeHi!
20:24.12XhoHello
20:24.14WormyThe Cultures best hope is gridfire
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20:24.20OluapPlayerHello
20:24.22Wormybut they lack godtech
20:24.35XhoOluap: I managed to determine the Xhodocto's age
20:24.44WormyThe Xeelee would sip Gridfire like fine wine
20:24.46OluapPlayerI saw it
20:24.55IrskaadOluap!
20:25.03IrskaadWormy: Are the Kraw Tier 3 now?
20:25.10WormyThe Culture was less than Milky Way sized
20:25.10OluapPlayerXhodocto are a bunch of old men
20:25.12OluapPlayer:p
20:25.13XhoThis means...big number
20:25.24Wormyexplains theor grouchyness
20:25.28Xho9.9999999999989855775×10^44 years - This makes the universe look like an egg
20:25.31Xholol
20:25.38OluapPlayerEggniverse
20:25.51WormyThe Xeelee are multiversal
20:26.52XhoKamik'Shi created them on the 21st 'First Day' which makes Kamik's presence 21 times older than the Xhodocto
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20:27.13IrskaadThen what did Kamik do in the 20th other days?
20:27.18Irskaad20*
20:27.24The_RandomnessHello mortals.
20:27.26GhelaeHello!
20:27.31OluapPlayerI don't think I can tell how old the Junction are
20:27.39OluapPlayerProbably over 20 billion years old
20:27.41XhoBy 20 days you mean about (1.0144225 x10^32) x 20 years
20:27.41OluapPlayerHello
20:27.50XhoHello
20:27.56GhelaeI still don't think there's any point in assigning an age to beings like the Xhodocto.
20:28.20OluapPlayerWell old enough to be at full power when they fought the Xhodocto
20:28.25WormyI think...There is no point aging multiversal empires
20:28.38Wormythey come from different spaces
20:29.00OluapPlayerThey were probably more powerful back there
20:29.13OluapPlayerBut then they lost and are until today recovering from it
20:29.27The_RandomnessDoes anybody know which civilizations would be negatively impacted if the Singularity were to be damaged and/or destroyed?
20:29.41The_RandomnessThe Junction is that old?
20:29.47OluapPlayerYes
20:29.55GhelaeDo you still think you stand a chance, Random? :D
20:30.03OluapPlayerThe Junction is very ancient
20:30.06WormySince the Technoosphere is newly established I doubt many would be heavily effected yet
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20:30.21GhelaeI don't think anybody would be negatively impacted in total, especially given that many AIs are still hostile towards all life.
20:30.22The_RandomnessGhelae: Yes.
20:30.24GhelaeHello!
20:30.30CatfaceHello
20:30.39OluapPlayerTheir home universe is alreayd suffering from heat death
20:30.51OluapPlayerHello
20:30.53The_RandomnessStill, which ones may be effected?
20:31.19GhelaeI don't think any would be.
20:31.47OluapPlayerThe Junction would be very slighty, since they want to use it to enslave the Grox
20:31.55GhelaeIn the long term, a lot of empires would probably be better off with the Singularity than without, but it wouldn't actually harm them if it were destroyed.
20:32.04The_RandomnessOkay.
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20:32.20OluapPlayerHi Jo
20:32.20GhelaeHi!
20:32.36Technobliteratorhey
20:32.38OluapPlayerDid you checked today's war update?
20:32.46*** mode/#sporewiki [+o Technobliterator] by ChanServ
20:33.09Technobliteratornoo
20:33.12Technobliteratori'll check it now
20:33.20Technobliteratori just got back from swimming
20:35.31WormyThere is some potentially dangeros self-referenced AI's
20:35.52Wormyand of course the very dangerous negative ones
20:36.01Wormybut they are few in number
20:36.54The_RandomnessIn all reality, what threat does the Singularity pose to civilizations in the Milky Way?
20:38.14WormySome want to create pure order (perhaps by changing plancks constant), and life (ruiners of order) could destablize their goal.
20:38.29Wormylife increaes the entropy of the universe
20:38.41The_RandomnessYes.
20:38.45Wormyso ones like Exodium will destroy life
20:38.50WormyOr attempt to
20:39.07WormyOthers, may cause harm, simply because they consider beneath their notice
20:39.18Wormylike many Tier 0's
20:40.40GhelaeThe majority have been convinced to join the side of life, by both hi-tech civilisations (such as the Girdo Empire and the DCP) and other AIs.
20:41.00GhelaeHowever, it seems that no more will be unless circumstances change.
20:41.28WormyThe thing is, I doubt a paradox alone will cause the AI's to collapse
20:41.29GhelaeExodium is almost certainly never going to change its mind, for example.
20:41.54WormyThe AI's are not giatnt computers
20:42.00Wormyreally
20:42.29WormyThey are not like Turing machines which are the basis for our primitive silicon PC's
20:42.30OluapPlayerWheatley is a giant computer
20:42.35GhelaeThey're computers in the sense that they're capable of processing information and their not biological (usually), but that's all.
20:42.40Wormywell some are then :P
20:42.44Ghelaethey're*
20:42.54OluapPlayerHe has a planet fortress, fear him
20:43.12GhelaeOther than that, they don't resemble modern-day Human-built computers at all.
20:43.16WormyIts more like Data's positronic net
20:43.31WormyHe wouldn't have a problem with paradoxes
20:43.50WormyBut I have considered spacetime paradoxes
20:43.54LotG_AwayUgh, its so hard to find the most recent Dalek theme.
20:44.04The_RandomnessHow do you know? Has anyone ever given him a paradox to deal with?
20:44.25WormyMaybe simply pondering one?...
20:45.27The_RandomnessOluapPlayer: Wheatley is a computer built to make bad decisions, which explains why the paradox didn't do anything to him.
20:45.59OluapPlayerI added Wheatley to the fiction universe as a computer made by the Junction :v
20:46.08OluapPlayerThat's why I'm mentioning him
20:46.32The_RandomnessOh, not the Wheatley from Portal 2?
20:46.43OluapPlayerInspired on him
20:46.47OluapPlayerBut not him
20:47.11The_RandomnessAh.
20:47.31OluapPlayerFiction Wheatley was considered obsolete and was abandoned, so he went crazy with the power of the dark energy
20:47.54LotG_AwayBitchy Cortana = AI Malfunction....
20:48.33CatfaceLuc likes bitchy.
20:48.48WormyThere are lots of types of AI.  The Stellar brains, the most common, are made out of forms of computroiium, which are dynamical systems, a paradox would be a slight confusion perhaps to be thrown away as irrelevant
20:48.56OluapPlayerStill if you told Fiction Wheatley a paradox, he would go "What? That's so silly" before killing you
20:49.10WormyParadoxes are, well, not part of causal reality
20:49.41LotG_AwayI like Cortana, but not bitchy.
20:49.46WormyThe Salseethe should aim at the Stellar brains (or matriioshaka nodes)
20:49.56Wormybeing that they are the most common
20:50.02OluapPlayer"Come here, I wanna make some experiments with you." And then he kills you
20:50.26CatfaceYou like you woman like you like your men. Black, fat. and sweaty.
20:50.36LotG_Away......
20:50.39The_RandomnessI was thinking that, Wormulon.
20:51.02LotG..................................
20:51.12OluapPlayerdotdotdotdotdotdotdotdotdotdotdotdot
20:51.15The_Randomness…
20:51.55LotG................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... x infinity
20:52.26LotGbrb
20:52.28The_Randomness. • complex infinity
20:53.02WormyZero
20:53.34WormyZero and infinity are pretty much the same I suppose
20:53.46Wormyneither are numbers
20:55.42GhelaeAnd both "... x infinity" and "... x zero" are equally worthless. :P
20:57.16GhelaeOkay, I'm going to go now. Bye!
20:57.17WormyThere are small and big infinities I read, unlike zero I suppose
20:57.17*** part/#sporewiki Ghelae (568268bb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.130.104.187)
20:57.19Wormybyer!
20:58.00The_RandomnessI think my idea is a good one for softening up the Singularity for cyber assaults.
20:58.55CatfaceRandomness fears computers.
20:59.03The_RandomnessNot really.
20:59.04Wormythere is something that could be a major weakness I just considered
20:59.16The_RandomnessWhat's that?
20:59.18WormyThe linkage between the AI's and the "users"
20:59.34IrskaadI have to go.
20:59.40Catfacek
20:59.50WormyI wouldn't be surprised if the Salsetthe wouldn't be that bothered if their cyber assdualts would harm living beings
21:00.20The_RandomnessSo long as they aren't many of theirs, it wouldn't.
21:00.22WormyPerhaps they can find ways to drop the connection or create neural viruses
21:01.01WormyPerhapsm using the Technoosphere they can send some sort of weapon to re-write and mess up gene codes within the "users"
21:01.01The_RandomnessLike what Janeway (alternate timeline) did at the end of Voyager?
21:01.09Wormysimilar yes
21:02.35The_RandomnessHow would that help?
21:04.18WormyIt wouldn't harm the AI's, but it would stop the Salsetthe's potential rivals from gaining advantage
21:05.10The_RandomnessThey don't have too many rivals that still exist.
21:05.43Wormybut new ones may develop
21:05.59WormyI imagine the Salsetthe waying up the potential risks
21:06.27The_Randomness*weighing
21:08.20The_RandomnessThey always weigh the risks before they do something.
21:08.45The_RandomnessWhich is part of why they rarely get involved in external affairs.
21:09.29LotG"You are only superior in one thing." "What is that?" "You are better at dying"
21:09.58The_RandomnessWhat's that from?
21:10.30LotGhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN19oHTv_Vg
21:10.31Technobliteratordoctor who
21:10.35Technobliteratori lovee that phrase
21:10.42LotGEpic moment in Doctor Who history.
21:12.00WormyRandom is interested in Doctor Who I think.  Watched it yet?
21:12.06The_RandomnessNope.
21:12.28WormyStickin with Star Trek I see
21:12.47The_RandomnessYeah
21:14.49The_RandomnessI have no idea why I made a Salsetthe Observation Probe creation. You would never see it anyway. :P
21:17.06The_RandomnessThat is, unless it's forcefully uncloaked or is detected.
21:17.09Technobliteratorjust cos you wanted to?
21:17.16The_RandomnessProbably.
21:17.28The_RandomnessEven then it would self-destruct.
21:26.53The_RandomnessDid I kill the channel?
21:27.46Technobliteratoryeahh
21:27.49Technobliteratormurderer!
21:28.04Technobliteratoryo
21:28.04Technobliteratorprevents The_Randomness from killing the channel
21:29.18LotGJust read the Arnudati and Shothoth story in First Contact again. Gotta say, its quite cool.
21:29.49Wormythanks
21:30.13Wormyi enjoyed writing it
21:30.37LotG=) Its nice to make "true" aliens every so often.
21:32.36The_RandomnessI still need to finish coding up the page explaining the Salsetthe Republic's governmental system.
21:34.58Technobliteratoryeahh hurry up you! ;)
21:35.22WormyI need to finish a lot of stuff in my fiction but it seems to never end
21:36.06Technobliteratori do too
21:36.18Technobliteratorsoon as i've written the krassio military for cesar it'll be easier
21:36.39OluapPlayerI guess I should write about Drac military too
21:37.01Technobliteratoryou guys will NEVER beat me in terms of number of pagess
21:37.22CatfaceOh Wormy can you help me make the ULE's technology page sometime?
21:37.26The_RandomnessHas anyone uploaded more images than me?
21:37.31Wormyalright
21:37.34The_Randomness*original images
21:37.35Wormyme
21:37.45The_RandomnessReally?
21:37.46WormyI have over 240
21:37.58The_RandomnessWhat about me?
21:38.00Technobliteratori have
21:38.01WormyWhat do you mean original?
21:38.02Technobliteratorno images
21:38.04Technobliterator:L
21:38.30The_RandomnessOriginal as in not copied directly from the Internets.
21:38.31WormySee gallery http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/My_images
21:38.44WormyAll my images are from my imagination lol
21:39.50The_RandomnessCan you check to see how many contributions I have to the File namespace?
21:40.09Wormyyep
21:40.14The_RandomnessYou can use something like Special:Editcount.
21:40.36Um2k9I have 1,524 contributions to the File Namespace!
21:40.46TechnobliteratorThe_Randomness: you arent allowd to copy from the internet :/
21:40.57Technobliteratorthat's breaking wikia policies and the law
21:40.58Um2k9All of them are for my fiction
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21:41.04Technobliteratorunless you provide a source/license
21:41.05Technobliteratorhey
21:41.08The_RandomnessTechnobliterator: I know.
21:41.09Jovar1WHOA THERE IS A LOTS OF PEOPLES HERE
21:41.10Jovar1Hi
21:41.32Um2k9You have 195 contributions, Randomness
21:41.37Um2k9Hi Jovar!
21:41.38TechnobliteratorThe_Randomness: im so dumb :/
21:41.40Jovar1Hi!
21:41.55WormyU haz 195
21:41.58Jovar1Hey, Um, I wrote some more on The Split if you'd like to read it
21:42.05TechnobliteratorUm2k9: there's a way to upload multiple images at once
21:42.07Jovar1it's mostly just a speech
21:42.23Um2k9Sure, I will tomorrow when I have finished all this school work
21:42.30The_RandomnessI have the most images used in the main namespace probably.
21:42.44Wormythats probably true
21:42.46Jovar1Okay (its not very long at all though)
21:43.18Jovar1And I made another story with the main character named after Wormy :D
21:43.21Um2k9Well Ghelae also has quite a lot of images on the main namespace
21:43.29The_RandomnessYes.
21:43.31Um2k9But you are probably right
21:43.44WormyGhelae's images are astoundingly clear
21:43.48Technobliteratorikrr
21:43.52Technobliteratormy images are crapp
21:43.58Jovar1Same with me
21:44.00WormyI think I've got some of the most uniqe images
21:44.04The_RandomnessAs in image quality?
21:44.13The_RandomnessOr in purpose/meaning?
21:44.14Um2k9Indeed, he must have a great graphics card.
21:44.17Wormyyes image quality
21:44.52The_RandomnessIt doesn't take a high-end card to max out Spore's settings.
21:45.02TechnobliteratorThe_Randomness: bothh :L and i use a high graphics card
21:45.17The_RandomnessWhat is it?
21:45.22Wormywhat I mean by unique, is like my image of a battle in a stars corona
21:45.43WormyMy images aren't as good quality as Ghelaes
21:45.49Wormy*Ghelae's
21:46.08WormyI still need to master the curvature of planets
21:46.23Wormyshadows too
21:46.33TechnobliteratorThe_Randomness: image quality and purpose. my bet image is shit.
21:46.51Technobliterator[[Vehicle:Taldar Bomber]] i gave him making images for ships after this
21:46.52morgothBotPyTechnobliterator meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Taldar_Bomber
21:47.02The_RandomnessTechnobliterator: No, I meant your graphics card.
21:47.08Technobliteratorohhh :L
21:47.26Technobliteratorradeon hd something
21:47.42The_RandomnessThat's not specific enough.
21:47.54Technobliteratori knoww
21:48.02Technobliteratoris there a way to et your pc's specifics?
21:48.04Technobliteratori forgot how
21:48.26WormyBTW: Have you read the DCP's involvement in the Asgord Genocide Random?  I've shown the DCP's cruel side a bit more
21:48.28The_RandomnessYes. Run->dxdiag
21:48.36The_RandomnessYes.
21:48.53CatfaceWhat about the ULE's Random?
21:49.14WormySometimes the DCP are a bit Lawful Good, so I must show its neutral side more
21:49.18The_RandomnessI have read both.
21:49.27Technobliteratorthankss
21:49.42CatfaceThe ULE are Lawful good.
21:49.55Technobliteratorati radeon hd 5700 series
21:49.55CatfaceDefenders of peace and niceness.
21:50.02Jovar1What would the JPA be? (not so sure myself) and the JSR?
21:50.08The_RandomnessNot bad.
21:50.38WormyORLY
21:50.52WormyI thought they were evil or are you being sarcastic
21:51.12The_RandomnessI was talking about Technobliterator's graphics card.
21:51.23Technobliteratorloool ;)
21:51.27Technobliteratorand im Jo btw
21:51.32The_RandomnessOk.
21:51.39Wormy@Random: I was taling to Cat
21:51.42CatfaceI'm Catface btw
21:51.44Wormy*talking
21:51.48The_RandomnessAh
21:51.49Technobliteratorlool
21:51.52Catface@Wormy Being sarcastic
21:51.59Wormygood
21:51.59Technobliteratorirc is confusing...
21:52.05CatfaceWell, they are lawful evil most of the time.
21:52.15The_RandomnessI must be going.
21:52.15Wormyi would hate it if tey became PC doogooders
21:52.20The_Randomness~vanish
21:52.21infobotACTION poofs
21:52.21Wormybye
21:54.04CatfaceIf they became good the ULE would be chaotic good. Stopping out evil without mercy.
21:54.13Catface*stomping
21:54.20CatfaceBut thats not going to happen.
21:56.38WormyMy score came as true neutral but I think I am chaotic neutral
21:56.40Jovar1Hello. Again
21:56.59Jovar1I feel somewhat irrelevant in this chatroom right now
21:57.39Wormy~talk to Jovar1
21:57.39infobotACTION chatters endlessly to to Jovar1
21:57.45Wormythere you go
21:57.48Jovar1NOOOOO
21:57.51Jovar1~SHUT UP
21:57.52infobotyes, master jovar1
21:58.11Wormy~make noise
21:58.11infobotmake: *** No rule to make target `noise'.  Stop.
21:58.22Wormykk, calm down infobot
21:58.27Jovar1huh?
21:58.41Wormyje just shouted
21:58.43Wormy[22:58] <+infobot> make: *** No rule to make target `noise'.  Stop.
21:58.44Jovar1hey are you gonna work on the Hogomoth refuge ever again?
21:58.52Wormyone day
21:59.02Wormynotice I have included them in Asgord genocide
21:59.05Jovar1I like them, just saying
21:59.10Jovar1You did?
21:59.23Jovar1(I haven't quite gotten the purpose of the Asgord)
21:59.24Wormythey are saiving Kraw refugees
21:59.31Wormynor have i
21:59.38Wormyjust comedy
21:59.45Jovar1They seem to like to pet stuff....
21:59.51Jovar1But that's all i know
22:00.20Wormythey are petting crazy
22:00.28Jovar1Sheesh
22:00.35Jovar1now the whole universe hates them
22:00.41WormyThe Tralor see it as rape
22:00.50Jovar1HAHA
22:01.02WormyThe DCP hates them because they try to ally with their enemies
22:01.18Jovar1That seems more reasonable
22:01.19WormyTo be honest the entire Kraw galaxy is Hilly Billy land
22:01.35Jovar1What makes you say that? (I've never had the time to read any of it)
22:01.35Wormyor a crazy asylum
22:01.49WormyThe Kraw are thick
22:02.02Jovar1mhm...
22:02.06WormyThe Tahar are anti-religious nuts
22:02.21WormyThe kraw are dunts
22:02.22Jovar1Lolz
22:02.41WormyAsgord are downright stupid
22:02.47Jovar1Obviously
22:02.58WormyThe Iteok are pridefull
22:03.08Wormybut too ,much pride
22:03.21Jovar1Wow that Galaxy is f-ed up
22:03.29WormyThey are all quite stereotypical
22:03.35Jovar1though the Milky Way has her own issues and weirdos...
22:03.44Technobliteratorikr
22:03.52Jovar1BLEH
22:03.52WormyMake sure you never let the Jovar go there
22:03.52Technobliteratori was the one who discovered they are
22:03.57Technobliteratoryeahh
22:04.04Jovar1@Worm-trust me, I won't
22:04.08WormyThe DCP troll their galaxy all the time :D
22:04.19Jovar1they're armless, and that's all that's gonna set them apart
22:04.28Technobliteratorzr'ahgloth and angazhar have ALLIED to troll lezia once
22:04.53Jovar1Do the DCP like the Jovar?
22:06.50Wormy"Like" is very broad when it comes to politivcs but I suppose there is no reason why they wouldn't
22:07.16Jovar1So nothing that would cause the two societies to be hostile?
22:08.28Wormyi wouldn't think so
22:08.35Jovar1okay
22:08.36Jovar1brb
22:11.44Um2k9I will have to ask Irsk, the Tahar are rather hypocritical
22:11.47Jovar1I are returned
22:12.12Jovar1Hmm.... very quite here
22:13.01Jovar1*quiet
22:14.18Technobliteratornahh
22:14.40Jovar1ja
22:15.54Um2k9Adieu, l'homme pathétique!
22:16.31Technobliteratorya wha
22:16.49Um2k9Adieu!
22:17.02Technobliterator>wat
22:17.20WormyFrench language
22:17.26Technobliteratorohh
22:17.30Technobliteratori dont do french
22:17.31Technobliterator:L
22:17.36Jovar1lolz
22:18.00Technobliteratori only do spanish
22:18.04Technobliteratordyslexiaa
22:18.11Jovar1Ah
22:18.35Wormyi don't know any other language
22:18.45WormyI got to beginner level Spanidh
22:18.45Jovar1I wish I was higher on your user relations.... but I guess that's my fault, really. For not collaborating with you enough
22:18.46Technobliteratori've been told it's a bad case, but now i'm being told it's a not too bad case. :S
22:18.50Wormy*Spanish
22:19.11Wormy@Jovar: Its not really in order
22:19.23Jovar1Oh....
22:19.25TechnobliteratorJovar1: the user relations isn't 'oh ur so gay' like others, it's about how i work with users. it's cos we havent collaborated much. which is my fault not yours.
22:19.34Technobliteratorfor not having an empire that can do anything until now!
22:19.54Technobliteratorthe taldar would unbalance everything and no one wants the loron in their war
22:20.14Jovar1What about Otzello?
22:20.27Technobliteratorthat's themm
22:20.32Technobliteratori'm using them now
22:20.41Technobliterator[[Fiction:Unified Nation of Ottzello]]
22:20.41morgothBotPyTechnobliterator meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Unified_Nation_of_Ottzello
22:21.04Jovar1Maybe we could collaborate?
22:21.10Technobliterator[[Fiction:Third Ottzello Galactic War#Stage 3]] for pretty much all you need to know
22:21.11morgothBotPyTechnobliterator meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Third_Ottzello_Galactic_War#Stage_3
22:21.13Technobliteratorcourse we cann
22:21.32Technobliterator[[Fiction:Third Ottzello Galactic War#Stage 4]]
22:21.32morgothBotPyTechnobliterator meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Third_Ottzello_Galactic_War#Stage_4
22:22.04Jovar1Don't know where to start though...
22:22.09TechnobliteratorJovar1: which of the two jovar empires would be most like uno? (aggressive, been through a lot of shit)
22:22.28Technobliterator(but peaceful)
22:22.38Jovar1Well aggressive would be the JSR. Been through a lot of junk? The JPA
22:22.47Jovar1Probably the JPA though
22:22.52Technobliteratorare the JPA more peaceful?
22:23.08Jovar1Most certainly
22:23.19Technobliteratorin which case they're getting a transmission
22:23.39Jovar1Alright then
22:24.18Jovar1I remember back in August I had this really crazy idea to "invade" Ottzello (liberate, rather). But school got in the way, and I totally forgot about it
22:24.30Technobliteratoryeahh i remember that
22:24.34Technobliteratori was gonna go ahead with it
22:24.38Technobliteratorfor 3rd ottzello war
22:24.57Jovar1With my "liberation" idea?
22:25.01Technobliteratorinstead, that war become non-collaborative. i totally did it myself.
22:25.02Technobliteratoryeahh
22:25.10Jovar1Well, not mine.
22:25.13Jovar1But you know what i mean
22:25.19Technobliteratorthey're still liberated in a way, ad are beginning to get out of their dystopian
22:25.24Jovar1Finally
22:25.26Jovar1lol
22:27.59Jovar1sending the transmission?
22:28.12Technobliteratoryeahh
22:28.14Technobliteratorbtw
22:28.20Technobliteratorthe kralgon emperor doesnt have a page yet
22:28.24Technobliteratorso there'll be a dead link
22:28.28Jovar1Oh okay
22:28.45Jovar1I have a ton of dead links right now, don't stress over it
22:31.09Technobliteratorthat's ok then
22:31.13Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Joran_Planet_Alliance
22:31.34Technobliteratorthe kralgon emperor's probably scared them off with the military talk!
22:31.36Technobliteratorbrb
22:31.47Jovar1haha alright
22:32.52Jovar1alright, without having to type up a whole mess of words in transmission format, I accept the offer :P
22:35.53Wormyi wonder if R17 will come again
22:36.01Wormyhe didn't last night
22:36.12Jovar1I hope he doesnt
22:38.36TechnobliteratorJovar1: no reply?
22:38.48Technobliteratorit'd be better for records if you did send one
22:38.53Jovar1I can't compete with that new transmission template....
22:38.59Technobliteratoryou dont have to
22:39.06Technobliteratoryou can recode it like that later
22:39.07Technobliteratoror i can
22:39.13Jovar1Well if you say so
22:39.52Technobliteratormy Msg templates are reallyy complex
22:39.52Jovar1I'll reply now
22:40.02Technobliteratori made Msg and i can do the cool stuff with it ;)
22:40.03Technobliteratorcool cool
22:40.13TechnobliteratorWormy: yeah he might have given up
22:41.56Jovar1lol the transmission scared the JPA Foreign Relations office for a second
22:42.09Technobliteratorhahahaha
22:42.13Technobliteratori wouldnt blame themm
22:42.19Jovar1But they'll accept... barely
22:43.11Technobliteratorthis is why valzo normally talks
22:43.38Jovar1I can see that
22:44.10Jovar1I posted a reply
22:44.33Jovar1I would've added something about having only Valzo talk to us in the future, but I don't want the emperor to get upset
22:45.02Technobliteratorhahaha
22:45.24Jovar1seriously...
22:46.07Technobliteratorthe kralgon emperor is a militaristic guy
22:46.21Technobliteratorhe grew up hated by his dad so much his dad didnt bothe to give him a name
22:46.46Jovar1wow....
22:46.51Jovar1hold on a bit
22:47.11Technobliteratorthat's stuff that's gonna be xplained on his page
22:48.42WormyI need to go now
22:48.44Wormybye
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22:59.52Jovar1I are back!
23:00.06Jovar1:Tybusen-hello!
23:00.41Jovar1where are you? Tybusen?
23:01.35Jovar1:Tybusen !
23:01.42Jovar1grr....
23:01.49TybusenHey! Sorry
23:01.56Jovar1Lol I was about to say...
23:02.05Jovar1I thought you were ignoring me or something
23:02.14Jovar1(I get paranoid easily)
23:02.26TybusenHehe sorry I'm doin' stuff on the Wiki, didn't notice
23:02.34Jovar1Ha that's fine
23:02.43Jovar1Like what type of stuff?
23:02.51Jovar1(And I see you hate the JSR)
23:02.57TybusenStarting the Second Bunsen War stuffs
23:03.05TybusenHaha you read that page?
23:03.06Jovar1ohh
23:03.13Jovar1Not yet, but I will
23:03.33Jovar1(i'm talking to you and cooking rice simultaneously lol)
23:03.57Jovar1I know no one has talked about it, but Maxi6 and I started a war
23:04.00TybusenCooking rice doesn't take a lot of activity. Trust me, I've done it before.
23:04.06TybusenYeah, I saw. The Galaxon War.
23:04.14Jovar1How'd you see?
23:04.20Jovar1No one else seems to notice it...
23:04.31TybusenI dunno. Just patrolling talk pages :P
23:04.40Jovar1Oh. Stalker :P
23:05.06TybusenI am a stalker :P
23:05.08TybusenJK
23:05.10Jovar1Yes, much to the dismay of capitalist nations, the JSR will win
23:05.37Tybusencries at the prospect at another victory for socialists.
23:06.21TybusenHehe but without socialism we wouldn't have Soviet Russia and all those awesome 60's spy shows
23:06.45Jovar1True dat
23:07.06Jovar1But you see, I'm trying to accomplish a nation that performs "ideal socialism"
23:07.20TybusenI see
23:07.37Jovar1One that isn't so horribly corrupted and evil at the highest levels
23:07.47TybusenHumans have had a problem with that :P
23:08.03Jovar1Well it's human nature. You can't really change that.
23:08.24TybusenThat's why we're writing about aliens
23:08.29Jovar1Precisely
23:08.50TybusenSay... would the Jovar get involved with the Second Bunsen War?
23:09.43Jovar1Maybe the JPA. The JSR'll be busy in Galaxon for a bit
23:09.52Jovar1(though that conflict won't last long)
23:10.12TybusenBunsen War will probably still be going on. Want it to be a long war
23:10.34Jovar1I see.... I think I'll join in later on
23:10.37Tybusen(I have a problem with making my fiction too short. Curse you English teachers who always told me to keep it short)
23:10.47TybusenCool
23:10.52Jovar1Hahahahaaha my teachers told me the exact opposite
23:11.00Jovar1elaborate as much as possible
23:11.14Jovar1Hence, a lot of my pages are pretty long
23:11.15TybusenHehehe all of my teachers are telling me how to write summaries and crap like that
23:11.36Jovar1When I write "summaries", I usually end up writing a book
23:11.47TybusenMy teachers would hate that
23:11.58Jovar1My teachers love it
23:12.03TybusenAt least, my History teacher would hate it
23:12.31Jovar1But that's because they love anything that's better than "gerMany iVaded poWan stating World war 2"
23:12.43TybusenSpeaking of writing books, weren't you writing a book (or trying to)?
23:12.49Jovar1Tried....
23:12.55Jovar1I try a new project every few months
23:13.07Jovar1It always collapse in the first few chapters
23:13.25TybusenHehe I've always tried to write some novel but I get bored in the first few chapters
23:13.47Jovar1It's not that I get bored as much as I lose focus or change themes midway through
23:14.06TybusenWell I just get bored :P
23:14.19Jovar1Okay, so you know how the Jovar (and the Tybusen, if I'm not mistaken) were created by the humans, right?
23:14.33TybusenYeah
23:14.45Jovar1[[Fiction:Experimental Design]]
23:14.46morgothBotPyJovar1 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Experimental_Design
23:14.48Jovar1read this
23:15.13TybusenAwesome :P
23:15.16Jovar1Still a work in progress
23:15.23TybusenI actually already read it
23:15.29Jovar1WHAT?!?!?!
23:15.47TybusenStumbled across it while reading about the JSR
23:15.51Jovar1How. Do. You. Manage. To. Read. Everything. I. Do?
23:15.55Jovar1Oh...
23:16.01TybusenI dunno. Recent changes?
23:16.04Jovar1lol I didn't even know anyone reads my pages
23:16.30Jovar1Hmm I must be more respected and liked than I once thought...
23:16.35TybusenI don't know if anyone reads mine...
23:16.45Jovar1I do
23:16.46Tybusenis Forever Alone
23:16.51TybusenOh thank you!
23:16.52Jovar1No you're not
23:17.01TybusenHaha I know I'm not
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23:17.12Jovar1I like your fiction. Though if I may, I'd change the flag. But that's just me.
23:17.17Jovar1Hey Oluap
23:17.22TybusenHey! 'Sup, Oluap!
23:17.24OluapPlayerHi
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23:17.46TybusenYeah, I'd change the flag, but I suck at MS Pain
23:17.49Tybusen*paint
23:18.02Jovar1I can make you a new one (that is if you like my flag designs)
23:18.15Jovar1I'm no Irskaad, but I can try
23:18.39TybusenYeah, they're cool. I'd like the basic outline still there, but clean up the star if you can and replace those six dots with four stars
23:19.11Jovar1What about the colors, any change in them? I would personally (they were too bright for me), but again, up to you
23:19.42TybusenYou can darken them. I made it red, yellow, and blue to represent the major star colors (the idea of the TIAF uniting races across the stars)
23:19.54Jovar1Oh okay, hold on. Shouldn't take long
23:20.35TybusenSo, Oluap, what's up?
23:20.44Jovar1I was about to ask you that, Ty
23:20.58TybusenHehe
23:21.04OluapPlayerI just got back from faculty
23:21.09TybusenFaculty?
23:22.49TybusenYo Jove you still there?
23:23.11Jovar1Ja
23:23.14Jovar1Ja bitte
23:23.29TybusenSorry, I don't speak Italian
23:23.38Jovar1It's German
23:23.52Jovar1Lolz
23:23.58OluapPlayerlol
23:24.06TybusenHehe I know that's just one of my catchphrases
23:24.13Tybusen(At least I think it is)
23:24.26Tybusenthinks whether that is one of his catchphrases
23:24.36Jovar1Lol
23:24.55Jovar1Umm I'm still amazed that of all people, I'm your inspiration
23:25.26TybusenThat's why I said Tybusen were created by humans. I sorta ripped off the Jovar there :P
23:25.50Jovar1I saw that
23:25.56Jovar1don't sweat it
23:26.08TybusenIt's fine
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23:26.31Jovar1Do you still want the center star to be green?
23:26.31TybusenWould explain why the Jovar and Tybusen met each other so quickly and became friends
23:26.44TybusenYou can change the color to white. Green just seems unnatural.
23:26.49Jovar1it would (also that whole fiasco with the Jarquvix)
23:26.53Jovar1Okay, will do
23:27.13TybusenHehe, I remember that (something to do with a certain nation's Jgindi Superweapon?)
23:27.23Jovar1Mine perhaps?
23:27.33TybusenHmm I think so :P
23:27.50Tybusen'Course, then I threatened with my own superweapon.
23:28.28Jovar1After I destroyed one of your star systems....
23:28.45Jovar1I think that's the one time outside the Intergalactic War that it was used in any war
23:28.59Jovar1(Do you want the dots white too?
23:29.24Tybusen(Sure, but I'd prefer them to be smaller stars now, if that's not too much to ask)
23:29.35Jovar1Shoot....
23:29.43Jovar1I can restart the map, no worry
23:29.49Jovar1*flag lol
23:29.59TybusenI think that was nearing the TIAF Civil War. I was going to respond that they'd destroyed a Rebel system, hehe
23:30.18Jovar1But I actually destroyed one of your own....
23:30.29TybusenI know
23:30.34Jovar1Sorries
23:30.43Jovar1I hope the TIAF isn't still upset about that
23:30.48TybusenOne less system the Rebels could've used
23:30.59TybusenNo, it's long in the past. Just a small outpost anyways
23:31.20Jovar1Oh, good
23:31.36TybusenThe TIAF doesn't hold grudges (except against the Xhodocto, but...well...)
23:31.50Jovar1Well they're the Xhodocto
23:32.03Tybusen:P
23:32.48Jovar1I'm almost done...
23:32.54TybusenI wonder how different they'd be if both of them actually went through with their threats
23:33.25Jovar1Well I woulnd't have been known as another goody-two-shoes (I'm looking at you, URC, Rambo, Sylits, etc)
23:33.56TybusenThe TIAF would probably hate everyone
23:34.33TybusenIt's sorta upsetting losing your homeland, isn't it?
23:35.01Jovar1Well yeah
23:35.07Jovar1it would be....
23:35.36Tybusen'Course if Jora got destroyed I wonder how the Jovar would react (definitely war with the TIAF)
23:36.35Jovar1I would've eatan you
23:36.40Jovar1and then destroyed you
23:37.14TybusenThe Tybusen are herbivores, so I couldn't really have eaten you... :P
23:37.18Jovar1you did say stars, not circles, right?
23:37.23Tybusenyes
23:37.29Jovar1Oh, and I made the colors a bit deeper
23:37.34TybusenAnd I don't think the TIAF would have stood a chance back then
23:37.37Jovar1sorta like the Romanian flag
23:37.39TybusenAwesome!
23:37.43Jovar1(they wouldn't have :P)
23:38.14TybusenThat was when I wasn't too creative with my fiction, too...
23:38.35Jovar1true
23:38.43Jovar1But everyne gets past that block eventually
23:38.58TybusenYeah, now just look at the TIAF
23:39.14Jovar1Indeed
23:39.22Jovar1Alright I'm about to upload the flag
23:39.24TybusenNo offense to Jex, but I think separating from the Jarquivx was good for the TIAF (and my creativity)
23:39.31Jovar1And for me too
23:39.52TybusenAnd Jex just disappeared, then, didn't he?
23:40.01Jovar1Yup
23:40.06Jovar1He blamed school and real life
23:40.19TybusenDon't we all? :P
23:40.41Jovar1I do too :D
23:40.54Jovar1i forgot how to upload... shoot
23:40.59TybusenI just realized I use the ":P" emoticon way too much
23:41.10Jovar1I do it too, dont worry
23:41.14Jovar1I say "lol" too much
23:41.24TybusenHehe LOL
23:41.51Jovar1Urgh I forgot how to upload!
23:42.05Jovar1This... is embarrassing
23:42.10TybusenPress the "upload" button :)
23:42.28Tybusenlaughs at Jovar's embarrasement
23:42.37Tybusensays "Just Kidding"
23:42.39Jovar1Where?
23:42.51Jovar1I really cannot find it...
23:43.08TybusenIt's in my "My Tools" compartment (in the little bar that stalks you at the bottom of the screen)
23:43.10Jovar1(I'm using the new skin)
23:43.15TybusenMe too
23:43.27Jovar1OHHHHH
23:43.31Jovar1Thank you so much...
23:43.35TybusenSpeaking of the new skin, have you heard of these guys called "AWA"
23:43.47TybusenAnd no, not the "Argexantine Warrior Alliance"
23:43.56Jovar1http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:TIAF_Flag.png
23:43.58Jovar1hope you like!
23:44.34Jovar1If you need me to change it, I can
23:45.01Jovar1No response... that scares me
23:45.16TybusenThat's awesome! Thanks!
23:45.23Jovar1No problem
23:45.42Jovar1Lol I reloaded the TIAF page as soon as I realized you were probably changing the flag
23:45.57Jovar1And there it was!
23:46.08TybusenIt seemed to replace itself!
23:46.19Jovar1So, it's good?
23:46.22Tybusenwaves his hands in a "magicky" style
23:46.28TybusenYes! It's brilliant!
23:48.46TybusenHehe I'm out of stuff to say
23:49.08TybusenWAIT! Have you heard of the AWA I mentioned (not my AWA)
23:49.38TybusenYou there Jove?
23:50.47TybusenOkay. See you later Jove
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23:51.08Jovar1_Erm... it kicked me out
23:51.16TybusenOhhhhh
23:51.23Jovar1_But I have to go anyway....
23:51.25Jovar1_):
23:51.30TybusenOkay bye
23:51.36Jovar1_you're one of my better friends on the wiki, you know that?
23:51.44TybusenI am?
23:51.46Jovar1_Yeah
23:51.54Jovar1_You, Maxi, Um, and Worm
23:51.58TybusenYou're one of my good friends too
23:52.03Jovar1_Thank you
23:52.16Jovar1_(Twinkyberries is annoying. Just saying)
23:52.23Tybusen(I know.)
23:52.34Jovar1_(He needs to learn how to spell)
23:52.58Tybusen(It's almost as annoying as R17's capitalization problem)
23:53.13Jovar1_Urgh.... they're both horrible
23:53.36TybusenR17 never came back, he actually went through with his "rage" thing
23:53.51Jovar1_He keeps spamming the IRC channel though
23:53.58TybusenReally? Which one?
23:54.05Jovar1_And he follows Wormy all over YouTube
23:54.08Jovar1_(This one)
23:54.15TybusenHmm I never see him
23:54.19Jovar1_he just hasnt come in the past two days. Thank God
23:54.39Jovar1_Well, I'm gonna go now. before my parents yell at me
23:54.50Jovar1_Bye!
23:54.55Jovar1_Hope to talk to you later
23:54.58TybusenSee ya!

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