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11:41.53Reaper_17I have returned.
11:42.38Reaper_17Never mind, I am going away.
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12:12.05GhelaeHi!
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12:23.46XhoHello?
12:24.08GhelaeHi!
12:25.08XhoHello
12:25.10GhelaeI'm trying to write up the end of the Imperial Civil War; Imperios just arrived 14 minutes ago and hasn't done anything since, including saying "hello".
12:25.16XhoWow
12:25.23XhoI have an idea
12:25.33XhoTo keep the fanatasy thing in control
12:25.43GhelaeOkay.
12:26.05XhoShould we only let the Klaxxa and Shiarchon (and any other race currently industrialised) industrialised?
12:26.16GhelaeProbably.
12:26.27XhoAnd I want to expand more on the Screebles, and probably give them originality.
12:26.38Xhoi.e. change them altogether.
12:26.52XhoWhy do we have Screebles as a race?
12:27.44XhoPersonally i'd call the race the Archipelago
12:27.55XhoAs well as them having an island
12:28.10GhelaeReally, it's because when I first started making the template for the Archipelago (which I still haven't shared; I don't think I've finished it yet), I gave the Elves there some artifacts, based on the [[Treasured Items]], and one of them has a Screeble's face.
12:28.10morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Treasured_Items
12:28.17GhelaeWe could just get rid of the name "Screeble"
12:28.34Ghelaeand refer to them as some ancient, enigmatic, extinct race.
12:28.43XhoHmmm....
12:29.08GhelaeNo, not based on the Treasured Items, they *were* the Treasured Items, but that's not really important.
12:30.11XhoHow about they're called the 'Satus' because 'satus' is Latin for 'start'.
12:30.26GhelaeBut before we start working on the story of the Screebles/whatevers, there's still thousands of more recent years of history to sort out - at least since the fall of the Elvish civilisation and the end of the use of the Old Tongue.
12:30.29XhoAnd i'd think that would be a fitting name for the presumed first race on Koldenwelt
12:30.33XhoThat too.
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12:30.48GhelaeLatin is basically the Old Tongue, so that would be the name the Elves give them.
12:30.49Reaper_17Greetings
12:30.51GhelaeHi!
12:30.55XhoWow, really?
12:31.00XhoHello
12:31.07Reaper_17What are You guys discussing?
12:31.09XhoSo Latin is the basic Elvish tongue...
12:31.12GhelaeThe fantasyverse.
12:31.14XhoHistory of Koldenwelt
12:31.27GhelaeYeah, that.
12:32.08GhelaeI decided to use Latin because there were already Latin names in the fantasyverse, like "Arbor Vitae" and "Durus Monstrum".
12:32.51XhoTrue
12:33.01XhoI have one problem however
12:33.21XhoUnder the Shiarchon page, they have Undertongue and then 'An Unknown Language'
12:33.38ImperiosWelcome.
12:33.40XhoThis unknown language could very well be a branch of Elvish.
12:33.52GhelaeMaybe. How is that a problem?
12:34.09XhoShiarchon aren't Elvish?
12:34.18XhoWell they could be
12:34.24XhoJust....very tall elves.
12:34.26GhelaeNo, but Elvish influence once spread across the world.
12:34.39GhelaeDurus Monstrum isn't an Elf either, but his name's in the Old Tongue.
12:34.54Reaper_17BTW, Cult of Pilgni members are called "Pilgnians" or "Pilgnites" while the Sagaporgs are the main Cult of Pilgni species.
12:35.01GhelaeOkay.
12:35.07Reaper_17But they'd have various species from other races too.
12:35.11GhelaeOf course.
12:35.20Reaper_17Perhaps there'd be elven Pilgnians.
12:35.27GhelaeAre you going to make a page about the Sagaporg species?
12:35.30Reaper_17and Klaxxa Pilgnians.
12:35.32XhoThey might be a 'Dark Elf'.
12:35.34Reaper_17Possibly.
12:35.49Reaper_17@Ghelae: Yes, I guess.
12:36.04Reaper_17Although I don't know about a page about the Cult of Pilgni.
12:36.20Reaper_17I'd really want a template for Fantasy Civs.
12:36.25Reaper_17Not just Space Civs.
12:36.41XhoHeheheh....I had this theory that the Xhodocto sealed Koldenwelt in a pocket dimension as a source of their power, and that they didn't visit Koldenwelt for thousands of years. Of course that was me just messing about.
12:37.25ImperiosOkay. I was toying with Freedom Force's mod editor. Remade supervillian Blitzkrieg into a playable hero.
12:37.59XhoAhah!
12:38.13ImperiosIn the story, Blitzkrieg gained control of time machine. Guess what he did with it.
12:38.35XhoThe elves call the Shiarchon 'Dryadales Daemonum'....otherwise known as Demon Elf.
12:38.41Reaper_17Hmm...
12:38.46ImperiosDark elves?
12:38.49ImperiosDrow?
12:38.58ImperiosSorry, but Shiarcon aren't Drow.
12:39.04Xho...
12:39.08XhoLet me explain.
12:39.10GhelaeNo, just evil Elves.
12:39.17Reaper_17Shiarchon Pilgnians? No. Klaxxa Pilgnians? Possibly. Elven Pilgnians? Same. Sagaporgs? Of course definitely.
12:39.25XhoOkay, let Ghel explain.
12:39.44GhelaeEvil Elves. What more is there to explain than that? :P
12:40.18ImperiosEvil elves are usually sexy, gothic sadists. Shiarchon =/= sexy, gothic sadists.
12:40.18GhelaeBesides the Shiarchon possibly using an Elvish tongue, though, I'm not sure why it should be the case.
12:40.32GhelaeThat's just a stereotype, Imperios.
12:40.47XhoSeriously stop using the word 'sexy' or i'll do something bad to the Eola'Nar.
12:41.17Reaper_17Perhaps Pilgni could do a little "brainwash" to other species.
12:41.36Reaper_17Klaxxa Pilgnians?
12:41.51Reaper_17BTW, Cult of Pilgni could be Tier U.
12:42.08ImperiosKlaxxa are freedom-loving guys, they could join.
12:42.14GhelaeThe Klaxxa live in the Ar-Klith Deeps in the middle of the Eastern Plains; I doubt there'd be any in the Cult's sphere of influence.
12:42.24GhelaeStill, there might be some.
12:42.51Reaper_17Well, what about Elves?
12:42.57GhelaeElves? Definitely. The Western Forests are probably filled with them.
12:43.03Reaper_17Yeah.
12:43.07Reaper_17Which elves?
12:43.21ImperiosKlaxxa are pretty everywhere. Traders.
12:43.25XhoHmmm...
12:43.31GhelaeThe "True Elves" (see [[Creature:Elf]]). Not of any tribe I can think of, though.
12:43.31morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Elf
12:43.49GhelaeSome of the Calledian Elves, maybe.
12:44.32GhelaeActually, since the Cult are active in the northern parts of the Western Forests, then they'd almost certainly have converted some Calledians.
12:44.56XhoI'll make Undertongue their second language while their 'Dark Elvish' becomes their first. I should make some differences to the original Elvish.
12:45.19Reaper_17@Ghelae: Yeah.
12:45.29Reaper_17But there must be more species in the Western Forests.
12:45.59GhelaeYes, but most of them haven't been made yet.
12:46.12Reaper_17Yeah.
12:46.12GhelaeA lot were also probably eradicated by the Shiarchon in the War for the Eye.
12:46.18XhoHeheheh...
12:46.21Reaper_17NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
12:46.42Reaper_17MUST... BRAINWASH... MORE... RACES!!!!
12:46.48Reaper_17JOIN THE CULT OF PILGNI!
12:47.09ImperiosOh
12:47.09ImperiosBTW
12:47.14ImperiosI have fantasy game that is easy to make mods for
12:47.21Reaper_17Which one?
12:47.22ImperiosMAKE A MOD ABOUT FANTUNIVERSE>
12:47.30ImperiosBattle For Wesnoth
12:47.32GhelaeThere's the Maern'Ren and Shaeg (and possible Screeg), possibly the Tragnon, and the Calledian culture also contains a race of Dwarves.
12:47.36Imperios2D, turn-based yet cool game.
12:47.42Ghelaepossibly*
12:48.07Reaper_17http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcfGtefimTI - Perhaps Xarik-Radux theme.
12:48.10XhoLegio Shiarchon sunt genus potentissimum Koldenwelt!!
12:48.50Reaper_17What?
12:48.55ImperiosHm...
12:48.57ImperiosBasically
12:49.04Reaper_17All hail the Cult of Pilgni!
12:49.08ImperiosI am starting to draw 2D art for mod et cetera.
12:49.12ImperiosOkay
12:49.14ImperiosI wonder
12:49.16ImperiosHm...
12:49.34ImperiosKlaxxa = small hp, weak-in-melee army with extremely strong ranged attacks?
12:49.50Reaper_17And what about a Sagaporg?
12:49.56Reaper_17One with Seven Swords?
12:49.57ImperiosShiarcon = balanced army?
12:50.06ImperiosHm... Let me think.
12:51.06Reaper_17And then there could be Sagaporgs that convert people to the will of Pilgni.
12:51.42Reaper_17Perhaps the Cult is basically not-so direct-combat and with good casters and support abilities.
12:51.44ImperiosWell, game won't allow this I think. They may be mobile, medium army with magical attacks?
12:51.50ImperiosYeah.
12:52.04Reaper_17I guess so.
12:53.46ImperiosHm, it seems that new versions of Wesnoth came since I used it first... Hm...
12:53.48ImperiosMAYBE
12:53.57Imperioswhat is better to use as a base
12:54.12Reaper_17???
12:54.18Imperiosolder but more stable version 1.8, or newer 1.9
12:54.22Imperiosversion of the game
12:55.10ImperiosWhat do you think?
12:55.41ImperiosPeople?
12:56.03XhoWell
12:56.12XhoMeh is my opinion
12:56.58ImperiosGhelae? R17?
12:57.15ImperiosBTW
12:57.21Imperioshave3 you passed an Alignment tests?
12:57.23GhelaeI agree with Xho.
12:57.30Imperiosi am inbetween True Neutral and Lawful Good.
12:57.34Reaper_17Okay, I guess?
12:57.39GhelaeI got Chaotic Neutral.
12:57.51Reaper_17Although My dad does not like Old Games.
12:57.52GhelaeXho: Is Undertongue supposed to be related to the Elvish languages at all?
12:57.57Reaper_17I got Chaotic Evil.
12:58.15ImperiosI am the only Lawful guy here, right?
12:58.27XhoWell it was a substitute language until I fixed the Elvish problem.
12:58.32XhoSo not really, no.
12:58.50GhelaeOkay.
12:58.52ImperiosReaper_17, what do you think? 1.8 or 1.9?
12:59.02Reaper_17I am not sure.
12:59.20Reaper_17Since I never played the game before.
12:59.38Imperiosokay
12:59.49Imperiosi am going to roll the dice like the TruЪ Warhammer player.
13:00.27Reaper_17BTW, gotta' go guys, bye.
13:00.47GhelaeAlso, is Dark Elvish supposed to be quite similar to the Old Tongue?
13:02.13XhoQuite similar, yes.
13:02.25GhelaeOkay.
13:07.00GhelaeShould we remove references to the "Screeble" race?
13:07.36XhoI think we should.
13:07.50GhelaeOkay.
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13:11.37Wormyhi
13:12.28Wormyhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Spore_2011-02-24_01-41-41.png
13:12.37WormyThe Islanders fleet ^
13:13.08GhelaeHello!
13:13.20WormyI like making spaceships for theDCP, so I like making sea ships for The Islanderss
13:13.24WormyHello Ghelae
13:14.06GhelaeWe've decided to remove any direct references to "Screebles" from the fantasyverse. This does make sense in a way, since none of the current civilisations would know their real name anyway.
13:14.58Wormythats alright, they are more of a sci-fi verse reature antway
13:15.16Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ocean_(1898)
13:15.21Wormygreat ship
13:16.55WormyI wonder if advanced socities like the DCP would sea ships.  The DCP probably have spaceships which can enter water too
13:16.59GhelaeAlso, your previous fears of Koldenwelt being crowded with loads of species are starting to look even less likely - I assume you've noticed my [[Creature:Elf]] page; now many of Koldenwelt's races *are* just tribes of one species.
13:16.59morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Elf
13:17.22WormyYes I read that, good idea
13:17.48GhelaeThe Girdo and Tokzhalan Empires just make their starfighters waterproof, so they could function as submarines if they wanted them too.
13:17.50Ghelaeto*
13:18.02WormyThis tune was my inspiration for building a ironclad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkjKQmjLLxY
13:18.47WormyOceans mmay well be more useful to advanced civilizations than the land
13:18.58WormyMind you, the DCP is migrating completelt from planets over time
13:19.10XhoShould I add 'Dark Elves' to the Elf page then?
13:19.30WormyMost of their industry is in space, megastructures can house billions, and astronomical phenomena like stars make peect power sources
13:19.40Wormy*perfect
13:19.48GhelaeThe Shiarchon? I put a note about them in the "Biology" section, about how some consider them to be another subspecies of Elf but there are some major differences in biology.
13:20.38GhelaeAlso, Wormy, one thing I meant to talk to you about - you've mentioned possible ancient advanced civilisations on Earth before. Besides the Vimana-producing people of ancient India, which others did you say you believed were likely to have existed?
13:20.41WormyHMS Thunderchild is now my favourite sci-fi ship and it isn't even spacefaring
13:21.06GhelaeWell, the Thunder Child destroyed two Martian war machines without firing a single shot.
13:21.38WormyI have heard of an ancient nation that may have lived in the Gobi desert
13:22.26WormyThe Uiger
13:22.31GhelaeI think that's connected with myths of underground kingdoms in the area, sometimes said to lead all the way into the Americas, or at least be connected with similar civilisations there.
13:23.32GhelaeI don't think the actual Uyghur people were particularly advanced; the advanced civilisation seems more likely to be connected to the Vimana-builders to me.
13:23.54WormyI don;t neccessarily believe in Ancient Astronought ideas, but I do like "alternative" history idea.  Indeed, known history has shown the ancients were not savages as once thought
13:24.09WormyBut known history only goes back so far
13:24.26GhelaeIt's clear that, at least, the ancients were more adept than they're usually given credit for being.
13:24.32WormySo if there were advanced civs they existed tens of thousands of years ago
13:24.55GhelaeEven if they only had "primitive technology", they were good at using it.
13:25.20WormyAny plastics might have accumulated in the ocean, even in the ground, ground water could have broken them down and brough t them to the sea
13:25.40WormyIf thasts to say, they had plastics
13:26.08WormyAnything else from over 10,000 years ago would have rotted, including the words
13:26.23Wormyso we not really know of them
13:27.20WormyHave you watched Ancient Aliens on the history channel?
13:27.29GhelaeNo.
13:27.42GhelaeYou've linked to plenty of YouTube clips of it, though.
13:27.47WormyYes, although it is about principly aliens, it offers a lot of evidence for advanced societies
13:27.49XhoOh awesome
13:27.55Wormytoo
13:28.03XhoHilight wants me to participate in a contest
13:28.22Wormyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrm6bjn_o8s
13:28.27WormyThe Evidence ^
13:28.32GhelaeOkay.
13:29.22WormyYou know during the Plague, there were plenty of reports of cylinders in the sky, blowing out blaxck smoke
13:30.10WormyAnd another ancient UFO - a red light seen travelling from Ireland to Asia in the space of 2 weeks.  Communications wasn;t that fast so many centuries ago
13:30.25WormyAnd the language gap
13:30.33WormyThere is weird stuff like that
13:30.34GhelaeYeah, UFOs have been reported all throughout history.
13:31.17WormyAlso, I read recently Human Behavoir evolved before our species
13:31.22GhelaeMind you, the stories from the Plague are probably just stories made up to explain what was happening at the time. I doubt it was actually spread by extraterrestrials.
13:31.29GhelaeNot that I can be certain, of course.
13:31.34WormyUnlike the popular belief of achaic cave men
13:31.42GhelaeHuman behaviour evolved before humans? Really?
13:31.57WormyIf so, we have been as clever as we are now for 400,000 years at least
13:32.20GhelaeI know Neanderthals had primitive religious beliefs, and technology's been in use (albeit only Stone Age) for probably over a million years.
13:32.44WormyI'll find a link
13:32.51GhelaeOkay.
13:33.31Wormyhttp://www.americanscientist.org/issues/id.11845,y.2011,no.2,content.true,page.1,css.print/issue.aspx
13:39.53WormyHey why am my getting interested in ancient advanced technology, when we living in a techno era now?
13:40.51GhelaeSo, basically, that article's saying that there was probably no sudden "revolution" in which behavoural modernity spontaneously arose.
13:41.22Wormythats hard to believe.  Cave men to pyramids
13:41.41WormyWe may be approching the singularity sooner than we think http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTPAQIvJ_1M
13:41.57GhelaeI still haven't got around to watching all of that first video you linked me too...
13:45.31Wormyoh okay lol
13:46.03WormyBTE, the documentary series, each episode is 2 hours long, so you may want to find time for it
13:46.07Wormy*BTW
13:46.23GhelaeOn things like the Saqqara Bird - my current thoughts are that it's possible that the ancients may have been able to make small creations that could actually glide, but there's still a difference between making paper aeroplanes and building a Concorde.
13:46.24GhelaeOkay.
13:47.29WormyThey could have had gliders made of wood and paper.
13:47.40WormySince rotted
13:47.45Wormyeasily
13:48.08GhelaeYes, I suppose they might have some basic gliders.
13:48.23WormyAnd when they recorded them with art, they represented them stylitically, with things we think represent birds
13:49.00WormyI'm sure you have hard about the Dogon peoples knowledge of Sirius
13:49.36GhelaeYes, of course.
13:49.59Ghelae...I said that as though it's the sort of thing you get taught in primary school. :P
13:50.07WormyIt is possible that advanced unknown civs might have existed, and some of their memory was left in the civilizations we know today, that is something I think could hae happened
13:50.50WormySo, their representations of machines were crude attempts to relive a far more ancient formewr glory
13:51.32GhelaeOkay, now I've got to wait for the second video to load...
13:52.14GhelaeThe South American jet might be better evidence of that idea than the Saqqara Bird, although if the theory's true then the Bird could have been one too.
13:54.31WormyHave you heard of the UFO's over Nuremberg.  The "Most frightful spectacle"
13:54.35GhelaeYes.
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13:54.38WormyThats a weird story
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13:54.50GhelaeHi!
13:54.55OluapPlayerHi
13:55.11WormyUFO's seen in space are fscinating too.  Like the UFO's escaing Earth at tremendous speeds
13:55.22Wormyhi there
13:55.37OluapPlayerHey Ghelae, are you removing the Screebles from the fantasyverse?
13:55.56Ghelaehttp://www.badarchaeology.net/data/ooparts/aeroplanes_2.php "Bad Archaelogy" makes a case of the South American jets being stylised flying animals. It's far from the most convincing oopart explanation they have, although a stylised bird of some type was my first thought about it too.
13:56.06GhelaeWell, the name "Screeble" is being removed, at least for now.
13:56.41GhelaeRealistically, there is the point that nobody would know of the name "Screeble" even if that's what they were called.
13:57.33OluapPlayerAlright
13:57.41GhelaeNow I'm continuing watching that video...
13:59.27Wormycool
13:59.50WormyThere is actually series of these shows
13:59.56XhoI am back
13:59.56Wormyso far
13:59.58Wormyhi
14:00.02XhoAnd I have made a new ship
14:00.18Wormystill talking about ancient civs
14:00.30OluapPlayerHello Xho
14:00.36Wormy@Xho:Do you like my Expirtator class?
14:00.48XhoLemme take a look
14:01.12XhoWow
14:01.16XhoLooks beastly
14:01.27GhelaeYeah, the South American jet could be evidence of pre-Columbian South Americans having seen aircraft. If it's a stylised creature, then it's *really* stylised, although the more mundane option is still a possibility.
14:01.59Wormythanks
14:02.09Xhohttp://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-500716189698
14:02.43OluapPlayerNice ship
14:03.14WormyIve commented and rated
14:05.30WormyThe most interesting part of "The Evidence" is the presicion of the Egyptian blocks
14:05.44WormyThere is no gaps
14:08.14GhelaeI think very good use of geometry, organisation, and incredibly amounts of care would explain that. It points to the Egyptians being much better in those aspects than modern people, with possibly a better means of getting the blocks to the shapes they wanted, but it's far from being the result of an incredibly technologically advanced civilisation.
14:08.37GhelaePresumably, they talk about the Egyptians in the programme you linked me to
14:08.47Ghelaeso I'll have to see if I still think that when I get to that part.
14:09.03WormyTo get that precision today we need technology though
14:09.11Wormyyes its in the documentary
14:10.16WormyAnother iumportant concept if an end of the world scenario occured - the internet would go down in minuites, telecommunications a bit later, then books and records rot within months, and all that is left is writteon stone
14:10.34WormyHow much today, is written on stone?
14:11.20WormyWith that notion, there could have been a lot more to these societies, since lossed for good
14:11.50GhelaeWell, there'd also be the plastics and the corrosion-resistant metals. And the International Space Station and artifacts on the moon.
14:12.21WormyThey don't last forever
14:12.44WormyMost of it will end up at the bottom of the ocean, and the ASS would suffer from orbital decay
14:12.45GhelaeOf course, maybe they never went to space, never developed plastics, and we just haven't found any of those metal artifacts (and the metals aren't completely corrosion-resistant anyway).
14:12.55Wormy*ISS
14:13.39WormyUnless the Ancient societies left Earth, and those who stayed behind reverted to the stone age
14:14.01XhoBad for them then.
14:14.01GhelaeStill, just as absense of evidence is not evidence of absense, absense of evidence of absense isn't evidence of absense of absense.
14:14.01WormyAnd those who went to space evolved into aliens
14:14.17GhelaeCurrently, there does seem to be a bit of potential evidence, though.
14:14.54GhelaeThere's the stories of Vimanas, and the South American jet models. Perhaps they refer to the same things (or things built by the same people)?
14:15.49Wormymaybe, that might indicate the global civilization idea
14:16.45GhelaeWell, I did mention the possibility of connections between the alleged advanced civilisations of central Asia and the Americas.
14:17.00GhelaeNot necessarily global, but covering a significant area.
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14:18.34XhoWhatever happened to the SporeWiki Machinima idea?
14:18.41XhoKinda died, I guess.
14:18.44Wormyno idea
14:18.54Wormybut no one really know how to do it, or has the time
14:19.11XhoWell DERP to that then.
14:21.21WormyI think using the adventure creator is easier lol
14:21.59GhelaeHowever, one thing I should point out: the main text they talk about, the "Vymaanika -Shaastra", is almost certainly a hoax.
14:22.10XhoWell yes, why didn't anyone use that is against my knowledge.
14:23.01XhoWhat was I doing on Spore again...
14:23.04XhoI forgot.
14:23.07XhoDammit.
14:23.21OluapPlayerlol
14:23.33XhoI know I created the 'Solar Nightmare' for Hilight but I was going to do something before...
14:23.55WormyYour on MPN!
14:24.00Wormycheck it out
14:24.42XhoReally now...
14:25.09OluapPlayerBeing on the MPN isn't that good anymore
14:25.23Wormytrue
14:25.31OluapPlayerSince being voted 2 or 3 times already make you a MPN due to almost no one voting anymore
14:25.32Wormyall it takes is one comment
14:26.50XhoSo I am
14:26.53Xho4th page
14:26.59XhoYay =.=
14:27.49OluapPlayerBetter than nothing I guess
14:27.59Xhohttp://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-500716111476%3Apg-20%3Aview-top_rated_new ... this is 2nd page
14:28.02XhoAnd how
14:29.10OluapPlayerThat's one ugly bastard
14:29.58Wormysecond page for spaceships category
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14:30.12LotGHello.
14:30.16OluapPlayerHi
14:30.48XhoWhat to do...
14:31.00Wormyhi
14:31.10LotGTyraz vs Telfinne vs Zavrhos
14:31.15LotGWho wins?
14:31.36OluapPlayerTyraz I guess
14:32.02XhoI dunno
14:32.11XhoIf Telfinne were rage to the max
14:32.12OluapPlayerNot Zavhros for sure
14:32.14XhoThen maybe her
14:32.28XhoBut yes i'd say Tyraz
14:34.26XhoLuc, have you played Halo Reach?
14:34.40XhoSorry to completely destroy the current topic, however.
14:34.54OluapPlayerlol
14:36.29GhelaeWormy: Okay, the Vimana bit's finished now. The evidence isn't as good proof as they suggest - like I said, they use a text that, as far as I can tell, is a hoax - but there is at least some evidence, and looking at the dates, the Columbian "jet" - if it's not a stylised representation of some animal - could have been inspired by the creations of the same civilisation who built the Vimanas.
14:36.43GhelaeI doubt the Mesoamerican pre-Columbian societies had working aircraft, however.
14:37.20WormyAs I said, the most intrguing parts is fafter part 4
14:37.25Wormy*after
14:37.58GhelaeI'm still only on Part 3...
14:38.07XhoI guess he hasn't then.
14:38.45WormyIf however, two distantly seperate civs were inspired by the same glider though, then that indicates they had a form of communication,the very glider itself
14:40.40GhelaeWell, at least, the aircraft would have travelled over both parts of the world. It wouldn't necessarily have connected the civilisations themselves.
14:41.04GhelaeThe Columbian civilisation might just have seen the aircraft flying by at some point.
14:44.01Wormyperhaps
14:44.12OluapPlayerI'm off to play, if you need me then must beep me
14:46.33GhelaeRight, it's got to the the Bible "spaceship" now. Assuming it wasn't meant to be a vision, then taking the view of it being advanced technology, yes, it would suggest a visitiation by some advanced civilisation. Maybe the same Vimana-builders, visiting the Middle East?
14:47.51GhelaeThe stuff mentioned before isn't very good at all. The evidence for "vimana airports" doesn't seem at all convincing - there are plenty of possible reasons for a platform on top of a mountain, after all - and I don't see why Solomon's "flying capet" wouldn't have been a literal, fictional/mythological carpet.
14:48.20GhelaeAll it mentions from other sources is one alleged story from Tibet.
14:48.22WormyThere is a lot of optimism is that documentary
14:49.15GhelaeYep.
14:49.39GhelaeLoading up Part 4 now...
14:50.20GhelaeBRB
14:50.46WormyThere is morte physical evidence later in the documentary though
14:53.16LotGSorry, I was eating a sandwiche.
14:53.27WormyStonehenge druids http://www.new-age.co.uk/summer-solstice-stonehenge-pictures-2007.htm
14:53.33Wormyabd pagans
14:53.39LotGBRB
14:53.43Wormyand hippies
14:56.06GhelaeBack.
14:56.37GhelaeSo, this is the first episode? What do the other episodes have, then?
14:57.05LotGNo I have not played Halo Reach. And I gotta go do some drying up.
14:58.25WormyYes its a whole series
14:58.42Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Aliens
14:59.19GhelaeAh, okay.
15:00.16GhelaeActually, the maps that they spoke about also appear to be good evidence for something. For some reason, I always forget about those.
15:01.53GhelaeAlthough, what they're evidence for... for that, we'd need to know more context. Where were the mapmakers supposed to have got their information from?
15:02.42GhelaeOkay, I think now the documentary's got to the ancients' construction projects.
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15:03.31Um2k9Hello!
15:04.13Wormyhello
15:04.39WormyWe are discussing Ancient techno civilizations
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15:05.01Um2k9What do you mean?
15:05.06WormyYou have seen Ancient Aliens on History channel haven't you?
15:05.23Um2k9Oh yes, the Hindu Nuclear Bombs
15:05.31WormyAbout ancient advanced civilizations that might have existed
15:05.31Um2k9I loved that program!
15:05.45WormyIts a whole series
15:06.21Um2k9I disagreed with many things in it, but it had many interesting theories.
15:06.58WormyMe and Ghelae are watching The Evidence episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrm6bjn_o8s
15:07.22WormyTrying to make our own assumptions
15:09.05Um2k9Did you see the episode about the Ark of the Covenant?
15:09.31WormyI'm not sure what to make of this ghost seen near stonehenge, it looks convincing, but then, the camera jumps which I'm suspicious of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29afny8s83Q&feature=feedlik
15:09.44Wormyyes, I';ve seen all aof Series 1
15:09.53WormyNot seen series 2 yet
15:10.05Um2k9Oh, and I watched a very good documentary about the Beast of Exmoor.
15:10.47Um2k9The police even say that the area is home to about two black leopards!
15:11.04WormyThis tale will scare you, its about a phantom cat in Ireland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaHF2puk1IU
15:11.14WormyI gotta go, bye!
15:12.04Um2k9Okay!
15:16.34GhelaeOnto Part 5...
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15:26.52Um2k9Hello!
16:27.25Ghelae...and onto Part 6...
16:37.12OluapPlayerI'm back
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16:44.05Ghelae...and Part 7, not that I know why I'm telling people this...
16:44.26Um2k9-AwayWhat do you think about it, Ghelae?
16:44.46GhelaeWell, I'll list about what I've seen so far:
16:45.49Ghelae*The Saqqara Bird might be evidence that the Egyptians could build aerodynamic structures, but there's a major difference between making a paper aeroplane and building a Concorde. I suppose the Egyptians could have built primitive gliders, but that's as much as the evidence seems to suggest.
16:48.09Ghelae*The Columbian "jet" artifacts, if they're not stylised animals (and to be fair, they would be a lot more stylised than any of the other artifacts there), could be a representation of such an aircraft seen by the civilisation who made the models. The aircraft might have been made by the same civilisation who build the Vimanas (some stories might suggest that the Vimana-builders' civilisation had bases all the way up Central Asia a
16:48.14Um2k9-AwayI personally believe that if ancient civilizations had technology that rivalled (or exceeded for that matter) our own, then there would be more evidence.
16:48.18Ghelae...experienced aircraft technology.
16:50.02Ghelae*On the "vimana airports", the evidence for them being airports is pretty shaky - there are plenty of possible reasons for making a platform on top of a mountain, for instance, and besides the *alleged* story of King Solomon from Tibet, there's no reason to assume that his "flying carpet" wasn't actually a fictional account of a literal carpet.
16:50.45Ghelae*For the Vimanas themselves, although stories do suggest tht they may have been advanced technology, the text referenced in the show was actually faked in, IIRC, the early 20th century. So there.
16:51.02GhelaeThen onto the megalithic monuments:
16:52.09Um2k9-AwayGo on...
16:53.08Ghelae*The main arguments against moving the heavy blocks by primitive technologies, and carving the rocks to such a degree of precision (which one person interviewed said *was* possible with enough time and experience) is "what would be the point in doing it the hard way?" I'd imagine that the ancients knew that the monuments would last longer with the bigger rocks... these monuments were designed to perfect and to last for all of time
16:54.41Ghelaethe Pharoahs as a way to keep them in the afterlife. There was the entire Pharoah's life to build each pyramid. I don't see why they wouldn't use the best craftsman, and have them take as much time and care as possible, for carve the rocks. And I'm sure the extra amount of effort to drag the stones up the slopes would be worth it for a monument that would last forever.
16:55.29GhelaeThe evidence might suggest that the Egyptians had basic machinery (like the saws they talk about), but that's it.
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16:56.50GhelaeNow, for the South American civilisations, I have heard the stories of them "softening" rocks to build their structures. And for possibly both the South Americans and the Egyptians, there is the issue of what materials they used to cut through the rocks the way they did.
16:57.01GhelaeBut that part of the episode is as far as I've got to so far.
16:57.32GhelaeNow I'm going to start watching Part 7.
16:57.58Um2k9-AwayI suppose, airplanes and nuclear reactors to me seem to be ridiculous.
16:59.32Um2k9-AwayI'll go and finish the senate,
17:08.23Ghelae...and now onto Part 8...
17:16.24GhelaeAlso, can anybody here capable of giving an opinion look at [[Creature talk:Human]]? I said I was going to carry out all of my suggestions at the end of the day, but since I forgot, I may as well let other people comment on the ideas (again).
17:16.24morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature_talk:Human
17:26.06Ghelae...and I'm finally on Part 9 of the episode...
17:28.36OluapPlayer~seen Irskaad
17:28.40infobotirskaad <Irskaad@a89-154-106-140.cpe.netcabo.pt> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 20h 24m 8s ago, saying: 'Hello!'.
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17:38.02CatfaceHello
17:38.27OluapPlayerHi
17:38.48CatfaceI got the Shogun 2 demo.
17:42.29Ghelae...and now I've finally finished.
17:43.13CatfaceYAYAY! With what?]
17:44.02GhelaeAn episode of a TV show that Wormulon showed me. About things that are allegedly evidence for aliens visiting Earth in ancient times.
17:44.40OseGoa'uld?
17:44.48Oseor however it's spelled
17:44.52GhelaeProbably not, no.
17:44.54OluapPlayerOse speaking?
17:44.56OluapPlayerNOT POSSIBLE
17:45.14GhelaeJust ignore it and it will go away... :P
17:45.39Ose*dramatic chipmunk*
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17:47.15Catface_Whoops
17:49.10*** join/#sporewiki Catface (428fdd5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.143.221.91)
17:49.18CatfaceSo yeah
17:55.04CatfaceHello?
17:55.20Catface~Seen Ghelae
17:55.27infobotghelae is currently on #sporewiki (1h 11m 50s). Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 10m 13s, last said: 'Just ignore it and it will go away... :P'.
17:55.29GhelaeYes, I'm here.
17:56.08CatfaceSlow day on the IRC?
17:56.59*** join/#sporewiki Irskaad (Irskaad@a89-154-105-13.cpe.netcabo.pt)
17:57.00GhelaeRight now it is, yes.
17:57.03IrskaadBoo
17:57.04GhelaeHi!
17:57.11IrskaadHello!
17:57.48OluapPlayerHai Irskaad
17:57.54IrskaadHello!
17:58.00CatfaceHillo Irsk!
17:58.07IrskaadHello, did you like my flag?
17:58.55CatfaceI didn't see it yet.
17:59.12Irskaadhttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/c/c9/ULEFlag.png
17:59.27CatfaceYeah, I like it.
17:59.33CatfaceThanks.
17:59.41Irskaad=D No problem.
18:00.29IrskaadOluap, do the Dracs and the Mxidiz have their own flags?
18:01.10OluapPlayerMxidiz use the Corruptus flag, and Dracs probably do but I never though of one
18:01.17IrskaadOk.
18:01.21OluapPlayerhttp://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-500716257617
18:01.23OluapPlayerdat spoiler
18:02.03IrskaadThe Hybrid between Drac and Spinker? The Iteok want him DEAD.
18:02.12OluapPlayerYep
18:02.33OluapPlayerKoluap's "daughter"
18:02.44IrskaadShe's a woman?
18:02.48OluapPlayerYes
18:02.51IrskaadLol.
18:03.04OluapPlayerFemale Spinkers have those eyes
18:03.27IrskaadHer mouth looks like an Asgord mouth.
18:03.42OluapPlayerAll Spinkers have that mouth
18:03.53OluapPlayerSuddenly, Spinkers and Asgordians are related
18:03.55OluapPlayerohno
18:03.57IrskaadLol.
18:04.07IrskaadSpinker - Can I pet you?
18:04.29OluapPlayerThey would pet you if you are their friend
18:04.41Irskaad=D
18:04.42OluapPlayerBut they would claw your head off if you were a zealot
18:04.46IrskaadLol.
18:05.28IrskaadSo, how's Shu'ulathoi?
18:05.36CatfaceWhat if you was a zealot againt zealots?
18:05.55Catfaceagainst
18:06.03OluapPlayerZealots call you non-believer in Space Stage even if you are a Zealot yourself
18:06.13OluapPlayerThat proofs they are nuts
18:06.39OluapPlayerAnd Shu'ulathoi is currently planning to send the rest of the Dark Five against his enemies
18:07.16IrskaadHow long until he becomes powerful again?
18:07.17OluapPlayerMe and LotG discussed yesterday, and Tyraz Breek will join the war in the future
18:07.28IrskaadWow.
18:07.31IrskaadWhich side?
18:07.37OluapPlayerNeutral
18:07.50IrskaadLezia - Tyraz, help me ally Shu'ulathoi!
18:08.10OluapPlayerHe will go after a certain enemy, and will end battling a member of the Dark Five
18:08.21IrskaadWoah.
18:08.50Um2k9Hi!
18:08.57IrskaadHello!
18:08.57OluapPlayerA certain species will join, and the Tyraz REALLY hates them
18:09.07OluapPlayerHi
18:09.16CatfaceNew song from my band http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=fvst
18:09.43IrskaadI thought your band disbanded...
18:10.00CatfaceDAMMIT JUST CLICK THE RICK ROLL'D!
18:10.05Catfacedammit...
18:10.13CatfaceHi Um.
18:10.17IrskaadI did and closed the tab before the song played.
18:10.49CatfaceSadfaic
18:10.55Irskaad--> This User allied Shu'ulathoi. Don't hate this user for the crime commited. <--
18:11.16OluapPlayerhurr durr
18:12.07Um2k9Anyone want to see the URC's new senate?
18:12.14IrskaadI wonder what will happen when Lezia meets the all-powerful shu'ulathoi... (Yep.)
18:12.29CatfaceYesh
18:12.36OluapPlayerHe would possess her
18:13.00IrskaadThe Iteok would just laugh.
18:13.34OluapPlayerDue to her descension, she would be an immortal possessed
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18:14.03OluapPlayerShu would put her in the Iteok capital just to annoy the Iteok
18:14.08CatfaceWho is Fiddich?
18:14.22IrskaadIteok - Stop, Lezia. Stop.
18:14.37Um2k9This stupid internet connection is ''really'' slow.
18:15.00OluapPlayerAnd since she is possessed by Shu'ulathoi himself, she still has her original personality
18:15.08OluapPlayerSo she would still want to pet everyone
18:15.09CatfaceSrry
18:17.03GhelaeBRB
18:17.04*** part/#sporewiki Ghelae (568481ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.132.129.255)
18:20.44CatfaceThe only true path http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P_BvrtuxAI&feature=feedlik
18:21.56Um2k9http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110224153319/spore/images/e/ed/Spore_2011-02-23_02-09-55.png - The URC Senate entrance on Corunnia.
18:22.15IrskaadNice.
18:22.35Um2k9Thank you!
18:23.19CatfaceDO YOU LIVE IN A CAVE?
18:23.39IrskaadNo, I don't.
18:23.48OluapPlayerYOU HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST BATS SIR?
18:23.55IrskaadNope.
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18:31.04CatfaceHello Ghelae
18:31.12GhelaeHi!
18:31.22GhelaeI just had a few connection issues.
18:31.36CatfaceSorry.
18:31.59GhelaeWhat for? You didn't cause them.
18:32.14Ghelae...Or did you?
18:32.23Ghelaelooks suspiciously at Catface
18:32.41Catfaceruns and hides
18:46.46Catfaceso
18:49.59Ghelaetakes over the world and rules over it for many years, before his empire eventually falls at the hands of a corrupt revolutionary regime
18:50.03GhelaeAh! I am slain!
18:50.05Ghelaeis slain
18:50.15Ghelae_slainHmm...
18:51.54Catfacenooo!
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19:11.58Dino__hello
19:12.05IrskaadHello!
19:12.13Dino__how are you doing :d
19:12.25IrskaadI am good.
19:13.32Dino__good to hear
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19:23.05CatfaceHello
19:23.21Dino__hello
19:23.38CatfaceHey Dino, the TFF is no more D:
19:25.04Dino__I saw
19:25.08Dino__very very sad
19:25.30Dino__the Rambo didn't even had the chance to aid them and feel a little bit ashamed of the fact they could not protect such a close ally
19:25.42Dino__though they opened there borders for eventually survivors of TFF
19:28.00OluapPlayerI'm back
19:28.12CatfaceSome of them might go to the Rambo Nation but most will stay low until they are hunted down my ULE spies or  until they can reform somehow.
19:28.16CatfaceWelcome back.
19:28.24Dino__oh ok
19:28.32Dino__welcome back Oluapplayer
19:28.47OluapPlayerHello
19:29.47Um2k9-awayHello!
19:29.51Dino__hello
19:30.04Um2k9I am nearly finished the URC senate!
19:30.05Dino__nice screenshot um of the new senate location
19:30.06GhelaeHi!
19:30.08Dino__oh great :d
19:30.11Dino__hello Ghelae
19:30.15Um2k9Thank you!
19:31.48Um2k9Oh, and I remade Senator Adar using the new Libertus model! - http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-500716238801
19:33.17Dino__I saw, very nice
19:33.33Dino__than I will have to use that appearance as a new costume I think
19:33.52CatfaceUm, did Senator Polus vote for war with the CAS or not?
19:34.20Um2k9Against, I think
19:34.37IrskaadWhat about the Kalatorg senator?
19:35.31Um2k9He voted for the war.
19:35.40Irskaad=P
19:36.06Um2k9The new URC Senate only has 16 seats, however it will expand if more senators are elected.
19:36.36IrskaadOk.
19:36.52CatfaceWhat is Polus approval rating?
19:37.09Um2k9Some seats however have two, or even three senators. For example, Senator Inviá and Senator Naberrie share a seat.
19:37.30Um2k9@Catface: Quite high I suppose.
19:37.53IrskaadWhat about the Kalatorg senator?
19:39.03Um2k9Again, quite high. However, the Kalatorg and the Torrian are minor races in the URC
19:39.10IrskaadOk.
19:41.08CatfaceWe go dancing nightly in the attic While the moon is rising in the sky. If I'm too rough, tell me, I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.
19:41.55OluapPlayerIrskaad: I see the Iteok are going to another war
19:42.05Um2k9brb
19:42.15CatfaceOkay
19:42.22IrskaadYep, Oluap.
19:43.41OluapPlayerThey better not ask for the Marinoxidiz for help, or they will get yelled for not doing what they want
19:43.51IrskaadLol.
19:44.08CatfaceGutter Cat vs. the Jets? Who would win?
19:44.22IrskaadThe Jets. Planes are stronger than Cats.
19:45.18CatfaceI disagree http://www.volacci.com/files/flying-cat-at-girl.jpg
19:45.38OluapPlayerFlying furball of doom
19:46.27IrskaadThat isn't real
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19:46.58CatfaceYou don't think?
19:47.00Dino__darn internet connection sometimes
19:47.10Dino__interessting facts about the senators of the URC though
19:47.20IrskaadNope.
19:47.26OluapPlayerI'm guessing the Iteok will get owned in that war
19:47.26CatfaceThe cats already one, tho http://www.funnycatsite.com/pictures/Jet_Fighter_Cat.jpg
19:47.49IrskaadThat isn't real.
19:48.03Dino__so the URc has only 16 seats? With so many species?
19:48.07Dino__That is quite a few I guess
19:48.56Catface@Dino Gutter Cat vs. the Jets? Who would win?
19:49.16Dino__The Cat ofcourse
19:49.20Dino__see his size!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19:49.23Dino__haha
19:49.42IrskaadThat was not real.
19:49.46Dino__no, those jets are F-15?
19:49.57Um2k9I'm back!
19:49.59Dino__right? Then the cat would loose sadly
19:50.03Dino__poor cats
19:50.10OluapPlayerWho cares if it's not real. It's still funny
19:50.10Catfacehttp://www.thebadandugly.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/longcat.jpg
19:50.17IrskaadHello!
19:50.17Catface^
19:50.20CatfaceHello
19:50.22Dino__welcome back
19:50.57Um2k9http://www.humorhound.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cat-voices-telling-me-to-kill-you.jpg
19:50.58Dino__so Um, o nly 16 seats for the URC?
19:51.14Um2k9Yes indeed! However, many senators share a seat
19:51.23OluapPlayerderpcat
19:51.38Um2k9Like Senator Amidala and Organa.
19:51.42Dino__http://www.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http://www.millionface.com/l/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/military-humor20.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.millionface.com/l/military-humor/&usg=__Y2J6WvW16Nzgl8yjk6gKDSyrrLI=&h=450&w=600&sz=123&hl=nl&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=NbJffBI3HVRkrM:&tbnh=119&tbnw=151&ei=tLZmTau3AY7tOdyn4ZwL&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhumor%2Bmilitary%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dnl%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1R2ACAW_nlNL364%26biw%3D1175%26bih%3D532%26tbs%3Disch:10
19:51.45Dino__oh ok
19:52.13Um2k9lol
19:52.29Um2k9http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2309/2508873730_b462d9a627.jpg
19:53.46Catfacehttp://dl8.glitter-graphics.net/pub/896/896218btupn45srk.jpg
19:53.52CatfaceAn Xhodocto cat.
19:54.11OluapPlayerDamn
19:54.17OluapPlayerThat's one ugly cat
19:54.36Um2k9Dinoman? I was wondering if the URC is allowed to colonize a few more systems in Quadrant 82, and if so, could I create a template for the capital of the URC colonies there>
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19:56.28Dino___again logged in
19:56.31Dino___missed any comment?
19:56.42Dino___see ya
19:56.46Dino___have ping out it seems
19:56.51Um2k9Dinoman? I was wondering if the URC is allowed to colonize a few more systems in Quadrant 82, and if so, could I create a template for the capital of the URC colonies there>
19:56.52Dino___and connection is doing strange
19:57.01Um2k9Did you get that one?
19:57.19Dino___sure, the maximum is 100, as the Core Federation was also allowed to colonise tha tmany colonies, or do they wish more?
19:57.39Dino___though th eURC could probably allowed that since they are members of the Cyrandia lliance
19:57.39Um2k9Sure! 100 colonies is great!
19:57.55Um2k9Or perhaps 150?
19:58.01Dino___150 is also fine
19:58.12Um2k9Thank you!
19:58.13Dino___how many does Rambo Nation have in Cyrannus?
19:58.21Dino___you are welcome
19:58.39Dino___not that many I believe, just a few
19:58.44Um2k9They have 1500 colonies near URC space!
19:58.53Um2k9http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy#Rambo_Nation_.28Not_Native.29
19:58.56Dino___and in what quadrant do they wish the colonies? 82 or 89?
19:59.05Dino___1500?? Wow tha tis quite a lot
19:59.16Dino___well if the URC wants, they can have the same amount
19:59.20Dino___seems equall
19:59.34Um2k9Cool!
20:00.03Dino___yesterday I  mae some changes to the Quadrant Galaxies page, though sometimes it is really difficult to keep ut with all the events haha
20:00.10CatfaceSorry if I'm not saying much. I'm watching Alice Cooper music videos!
20:00.28Dino___only have to change the Xiaans
20:00.32Dino___oh alice cooper
20:00.32Um2k9Yes, I have just saw it!
20:00.38Dino___with Poison!!!!!!!!
20:00.54CatfaceWell, no more mr nice guy right now.
20:01.07Dino___oh ok
20:01.13Dino___why not nice guy?
20:01.53CatfaceI don't know.
20:02.06Dino___oh ok
20:02.25Um2k9I wonder if the TFF have left any legacy.
20:03.05Dino___ofcourse, they are recorded by Rambo Nation and the URC
20:03.22Dino___Yanis (did she survive?) was well known by Ramashe
20:03.33CatfaceAs dishonorable rebels who dared to defy the Emperor.
20:03.38CatfaceYes, she did.
20:03.40Um2k9Yes, I suppose.
20:04.10Um2k9I had better finish my senate!
20:04.18Dino___ok
20:04.23Dino___will pl ay it as soon as possible
20:04.24Dino___have to leave too
20:04.26Um2k9I think you will enjoy it!
20:04.28Dino___see ya next time
20:04.30CatfaceOkau
20:04.32Catface*okay
20:04.34Dino___bye
20:04.39*** join/#sporewiki Wormy (55d34b56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.211.75.86)
20:04.42Wormyhi
20:04.45CatfaceHi
20:04.51Wormymissed him
20:05.05OluapPlayerHi Wormy
20:05.13Wormyhello OP and everyone
20:05.47CatfaceHello
20:07.02IrskaadHi Wormy!
20:07.28WormyUm2k9, did you watch that thing about the Black Cat of killakee?
20:07.44WormyIt scared me lol
20:07.58Um2k9Yes I did, very freaky.
20:08.07Um2k9Especially at the end
20:08.31Wormyits the picture the artist had drawn
20:08.37Wormythat got me
20:08.40Um2k9I will be offline for a while! I am making my most complex adventure!
20:08.48Wormyokay, cool
20:09.08Um2k9Yes, I thought that was very freaky. Also, the scream of the cat was
20:09.08Wormythey take time and precision
20:09.23Um2k9-very weird
20:09.58Um2k9-AwayBy the way, I have just noticed that we have all the admins here! (With the exception of TM)
20:10.33Wormyyes we could discuss the next admins
20:10.51Um2k9-AwayI don't think Ose and Oluap are active, however.
20:11.03Wormyhmmm
20:11.12Oselurks
20:11.29Wormy@LoupPlayer:Are you there?
20:11.30*** join/#sporewiki Irskaad (Irskaad@89.154.105.13)
20:11.38IrskaadThe wiki was lagging on me.
20:11.39Wormy*OluapPlayer
20:12.07Catfacelurks Ose
20:12.18WormyI don't think we shoukd wait for TM now, he is inactive again
20:14.28Um2k9-Away~summon OluapPlayer
20:14.28infobotapt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing OluapPlayer's coordinates
20:14.32WormyWe probably only need 3 admins in my opinion
20:14.47WormyNow OP and me, abd occasionally Ose and TM
20:15.07Um2k9-Away~seen TimeMaster
20:15.10infobottimemaster <4428cd36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.40.205.54> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 103d 24m 27s ago, saying: 'hello'.
20:15.53OluapPlayerHuh?
20:15.56Um2k9-AwayTimeMaster's last edit was New Years Day
20:16.06OluapPlayerI was busy
20:16.11Um2k9-AwayWelcome back to the world of the living!
20:16.25OluapPlayerWhat do you want?
20:16.39WormyWe could discuss who will be the next admins now
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20:16.52Wormy#SWAdminChat?
20:18.29*** join/#sporewiki KiesKortograa (Irskaadan@a89-154-105-13.cpe.netcabo.pt)
20:18.39KiesKortograaMy Internet is going nuts.
20:20.09OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX6NUj3LxhE
20:20.16OluapPlayerHis name is Doof and you will do what he says
20:23.09CatfaceMeh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCQG5Hb6Gew
20:24.17CatfaceGaylord comes with a bone of his own!
20:24.58OluapPlayerCreepy
20:26.29CatfaceOld stuff is creepy.
20:28.01Catfacehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4kHmbZTvyI&feature=fvst
20:37.18Wormy~summon Ghelae_away
20:37.18infobotapt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing Ghelae_away's coordinates
20:44.00Catface~hunt Wormy
20:44.00infobotACTION grabs a truncheon and begins stalking Wormy
20:44.12Wormyi'm still here
20:46.09CatfaceAre you still having the meeting thingamajigger?
20:46.33Wormybrb
20:46.55Catfacekk
20:53.18Um2k9-AwayWormy, I am nearly finished my adventure and I am now adding easter eggs! Should I include a DCP character?
20:54.11Um2k9-AwayMM, shall I add one of yours?
20:55.29CatfaceSure!
21:02.21CatfaceCat Face meets a saucy lady.
21:02.58Um2k9-AwaySay what>
21:03.10Catfacehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHdnvgz99Jk
21:15.09Um2k9-AwayI am now an administrator! Thank you Ose, Wormy and Oluap! I will use these extra powers wisely.
21:15.24CatfaceYou are?
21:15.24KiesKortograaSay wha?
21:15.31WormyThats alright
21:15.42WormyI'll make some rollbacks too
21:15.47OluapPlayerIf you don't we ban you instead :p
21:15.48Um2k9-AwayAnd so is Ghelae!
21:16.43Um2k9Who are the new rollbacks?
21:16.51WormyThe Randomness is one
21:17.06Catfacebows before the new dark God, Um2k9 . ALL HAIL THE DARK ONE!
21:17.49Um2k9Thanks Catface... I think!
21:17.58OluapPlayerGhelae is also a dark god, bow to him too
21:18.02*** join/#sporewiki The_Randomness (~The_Rando@c-75-72-116-108.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
21:18.15The_RandomnessHello mortals.
21:18.19GhelaeHi.
21:18.25OluapPlayerHi
21:18.27OluapPlayerdead
21:18.28GhelaeOluap just called me a dark god.
21:18.33Um2k9Hello! Guess who are the new admins!
21:18.38CatfaceBows before the dark god, Ghelae. ALL HAIL THE DARK ONE!
21:18.43The_RandomnessIt appears we have two new admins and I'm a rollback.
21:18.48GhelaeOh, I see.
21:18.50Wormyindeed
21:18.58GhelaeI *am* a dark god. Mwahahahaha!
21:19.13Ghelaegoes around smiting innocent people
21:19.13Um2k9Myself and Ghelae have ascended to the position of dark god.
21:19.16OluapPlayerYou have done well
21:19.26CatfaceWe shall bun children in the name of the new dark ones! HAIL!
21:19.31Catface*BURN
21:19.33The_RandomnessThen what am I considered? :(
21:19.40WormyWhat monsters have I unleashed j/k
21:19.52Um2k9High Demon, probably!
21:19.59OluapPlayerYou are a lower priest
21:20.16The_RandomnessMagic?
21:20.23Um2k9That is probably more complimentary.
21:20.36WormyVulcan magic?
21:21.07Um2k9Random, my favourite ST series is also Voyager.
21:21.24The_RandomnessFinal Fantasy II magic is more of what I was thinking. :p
21:21.42CatfaceWhat as I? Just a lower servent to the gods...
21:21.45The_RandomnessUm2k9, cool! What was your favorite story arc(s)?
21:22.02The_RandomnessOr were, if it's plural.
21:22.08WormyNow, remember, to use your tools wisely, to stay neutral, to not make up rules but enforce them etc
21:22.16Um2k9I would have to have to say, Scorpion.
21:22.35The_RandomnessMe too, I also liked the Equinox.
21:22.46Um2k9@Wormy: Of course! I have made myself familiar with the wikipedia guidelines
21:23.29The_RandomnessSo, what sorts of magic can I have?
21:23.39Um2k9My favourite line however is, ''Coffee, black'', ''Make it yourself!''
21:23.45WormyI know that you have probably read these, but I would read these anyway http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Admin_FAQ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_requests_for_adminship
21:23.54Wormyfamilarise yourselves
21:24.15WormyBut they state the obvious anyway
21:24.38Um2k9Thank you, Wormy!
21:24.48*** join/#sporewiki The_Randomness (~The_Rando@c-75-72-116-108.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
21:24.50The_RandomnessOops.
21:24.55Um2k9Are you now a bureaucrat?
21:25.33OluapPlayerYes he is
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21:25.46The_RandomnessUm2k9, did you watch Enterprise?
21:26.03Um2k9@Wormy: Congratulations!
21:26.05Wormyyep
21:26.23Um2k9@The Randomness: I have only ever seen ''Regeneration''.
21:26.43Um2k9You are now Kamik'Shi, I suppose. j/k
21:26.54The_RandomnessYou should watch it, especially for the Xindi story arc.
21:27.28The_RandomnessGhelae: So can we take over the world now?
21:27.38OluapPlayerNot while I'm here
21:27.39GhelaeSure, why not?
21:27.53Ghelaeassassinates OluapPlayer
21:27.59OluapPlayerffff
21:28.02GhelaeThere, now who's stopping us?
21:28.07Um2k9I also want to take over the world, thank you very much.
21:28.21The_RandomnessActually, let's do it tomorrow, I have to work on some homework.
21:28.22WormyI could
21:28.22Um2k9assassinates Ghelae and Randomness.
21:28.34WormySo no funny business
21:28.35Ghelaede-assassinates himself
21:28.42WormyThat unless I join forces >:)
21:28.56GhelaeWe can all join forces and take over the world together!
21:29.11OluapPlayerI knew it was a bad idea to promote you lot
21:29.20WormyI get a share of most of the Far East
21:29.26Ghelae(And then I'll kill you all while you're not expecting it! Muahahaha!)
21:29.29OluapPlayerWell, I still reign supreme as the lord of the IRC
21:29.37WormyIndia, China, Japan, Siberia
21:29.46Um2k9I will take Western Europe.
21:29.47The_RandomnessOse: Want to help us take over the world?
21:29.58Osenah, i'm good
21:30.11Um2k9I also may expand to North Africa and possibly Oceania.
21:30.20The_RandomnessI'll take Northern North America.
21:30.39CatfaceSo are you going to rule over me, Random?
21:30.47The_RandomnessYes.
21:30.55WormyWe have played enough Nationstates and Spore to rule powerfully
21:31.08Catfacelol
21:31.27WormyI will rename my claimed land the Delpha Coalition of Countriers
21:31.43Um2k9Hmm... I wonder where I will build my fortress of doom...
21:31.58The_RandomnessI'll build mine underground!
21:32.06WormyOr in space?
21:32.19WormyMy nation will concentrate omn space and high technology
21:32.25Um2k9As will mine.
21:32.40CatfaceRandom, can I be your high inquisitor?
21:32.49The_RandomnessNation? We will be united.
21:33.07GhelaeAll right, you guys continue plotting (so I can steal your fully-made empires after killing you all!); I should be back later.
21:33.16Um2k9I suppose it isn't really taking over the world.
21:33.23The_RandomnessCatface: You must give me your soul first for absolutely no reason at all.
21:33.34Um2k9plants a nuclear bomb under Ghelae's bed.
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21:34.06CatfaceDino, Admins are invading!
21:34.12Dino__???
21:34.13Dino__Why?
21:34.16Wormyhi
21:34.18Dino__what do you mean MatthewMosely?
21:34.20Catfacehi
21:34.21Dino__Hi Wormulon
21:34.24Um2k9Hello!
21:34.30Wormywe are ginna take over the world
21:34.34Dino__hello
21:34.39Um2k9Yes, indeed.
21:34.45Dino__eh wha? I think I missed something?
21:34.55Um2k9I also think I will take over Mars.
21:35.02Dino__mars?
21:35.20Dino__I am confused
21:35.28Dino__I have no clue what you all are talking about
21:35.33Um2k9I will build my fortress of doom on it's dusty plains!
21:35.49CatfaceUm, can I be your Grand Inquisitor?
21:35.54The_Randomness*its
21:36.17CatfaceUm and Ghelae are admins now!
21:36.26Dino__mars? Why so small, why not Jupiter or Saternus?
21:36.29Dino__oh they are admins?
21:36.33Dino__Since when did that happen?
21:36.43Dino__congrats I assume are on place then
21:36.47Dino__:D
21:36.57The_RandomnessI'm a rollback now.
21:36.59Um2k9Thank you!
21:37.31Um2k9I'll be back soon!
21:38.35Dino__ok
21:40.29Dino__interessting though, I always assumed the wiki did not needed more admins
21:40.50The_RandomnessWe needed more active admins.
21:40.52Dino__But it is great to learn Ghelae and Um2k9 are becoming admins
21:41.28Dino__ah more active admins? Oh that makes things clear. I am looking forward to there new "job" and there preformances
21:41.29The_RandomnessAnd I'm a rollback now!
21:41.30Dino__:D
21:41.39Dino__rollback? What does that mean Randomness?
21:41.45Dino__or in what context do you mean it?
21:42.54The_RandomnessA rollback can roll back pages, and it looks good.
21:43.34Dino__oh ok
21:44.33Um2k9I have finished my adventure at long last.
21:44.36Um2k9http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-500716327048
21:44.47Um2k9Please play, rate and comment!
21:45.16Wormyhooray, I will do now
21:45.30WormyBTW, you may want to add info here http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Administrators#Who_are_this_wiki.27s_administrators.3F
21:45.43Wormyif you want
21:45.57Um2k9Thank you Wormy, I will now!
21:46.19Dino__oh ok, great Um, I will try to play it as soon as possible (perhaps tomorrow) or later this weekend
21:46.29Dino__since tomorrow I have a reaaaaaaaaaaaaally long day of school for a friday
21:46.33Dino__darn
21:48.03Um2k9Well at least you can look forward to it!
21:48.52The_RandomnessI must be going.
21:48.57The_Randomness~vanish
21:48.57infobotACTION poofs
21:49.00Wormybye
21:49.01CatfaceI shall play it now
21:49.02Catfacebye
21:49.05Dino__indeed haha
21:49.08Dino__bye Randomness
21:49.15Dino__bye MatthewMoseley
21:49.21IrskaadHello again, everyone. I finished Spriggs077's flag, I hope I got this right...
21:49.28Catfacebye
21:49.48Dino__bye
21:52.33Dino__oh nice flag irskaad
21:52.33Dino__very very cool
21:52.47IrskaadYeah, but I missed something.
21:52.55Dino__oh ok
21:52.59Dino__what?
21:53.08IrskaadThe center flag has to be bigger.
21:53.20Dino__ah ok, still looks cool though haha
21:53.23Dino__I will be going too
21:53.34Dino__hope to be active tommorrow if possible, if not till next time
21:53.37Dino__see ya
21:54.05IrskaadBye.
21:54.08Dino__bye
21:56.17Wormytaking time to load it must be a big adventure
21:57.07Um2k9Yes, it is quite complex!
21:58.30Wormyhooray, it got me there
21:59.11Um2k9Great! How long did it take to load>
21:59.23WormyOver 5 minuites
21:59.38WormyBut already, I'm seeing a goof view in the sky
21:59.42Wormy*good
22:00.06Um2k9Thanks!
22:00.41Um2k9What about The Valader, Wormy?
22:01.00IrskaadBye, everyone.
22:01.21Um2k9Bye Irskaad!
22:01.26Um2k9=D
22:01.45WormyWe considered him as a candidate, but he isn't as active as Ghelae or you
22:02.08WormyHe is already a rollback however, if he wasnb't I would have promoted him to that
22:02.25Um2k9Perhaps when he fixes his computer then?
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22:03.52Um2k9Hello!
22:04.11Reaper_17Greetings
22:04.25Wormyhi
22:04.36WormyI am actually building a DCP colony slowly
22:04.41Reaper_17http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAtzaXTwM9w - What do You think?
22:04.46Reaper_17Is it Xarik-Radux theme?
22:04.55Reaper_17What empire is the song fitting to?
22:05.08Um2k9What do you mean?
22:05.44WormyUnfortunately, I have less timew to build adventures
22:06.01WormyBut I hope to have it shared sometime next month
22:06.10Um2k9Well, summer is fast approaching!
22:06.15Reaper_17BTW Guys
22:06.26Reaper_17What song do any of You think is the Xarik-Radux theme?
22:06.32WormyIndeed, it was very spring-like today
22:06.35Wormyits cool
22:06.38Reaper_17@Um2k9: Agreed, same here.
22:08.47WormyI like how the pavements are all neatly aligned too
22:08.51Um2k9Don't worry, I will find one that you will like! =D
22:08.58Um2k9Thanks Wormy!
22:09.21Reaper_17Again, what song do You guys think is the Xarik-Radux theme?
22:11.15Um2k9I don't really know at the moment.
22:12.15Reaper_17Where is LotG and the others?
22:12.20Reaper_17#rpzone
22:12.22Reaper_17#sporerp
22:12.46WormyYeah, its good adventure, I rated and commented
22:15.32Um2k9Thank you Wormy! I am glad you liked it!
22:30.31Wormybye for now!  I might bbl
22:33.57Reaper_17Bye too, sadly.
22:39.08Um2k9And then there was two.
23:09.54Um2k9~seen Technobliterator
23:10.12infobottechnobliterator <568e327d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.142.50.125> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 4d 11h 37m 18s ago, saying: 'thisll be my last visit'.

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