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02:16.07Um2k9Hello?
02:16.18Um2k9Hmm...
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10:01.29ImperiosHi Ghelae!
10:01.29GhelaeHi!
10:02.53ImperiosI am thinking about new SSA video. What is better to use - a name of species or name of empire?
10:03.07GhelaeThe empire itself, probably.
10:03.52GhelaeDo you mean, in one clip, saying "United Republic or Cyrannus" as opposed to "Libertus", for example?
10:04.02GhelaeIf so, then yeah, go for the name of the empire.
10:04.02ImperiosYes.
10:04.04ImperiosHm...
10:04.40ImperiosI just want not for Um2k9 to make a clip about URC and for me to make a clip about Spodelings, TC or Radeons/
10:05.20GhelaeOh, that reminds me: have you decided what's going to happen to the rest of the Dei'Ar survivors that need somewhere to go?
10:05.51GhelaeLike joining the Girdo Empire, forming a new Church of Spode, living as SSA citizens on Station Halcyon, etc.
10:07.30ImperiosIt depends. I'd make several "factions". Lupercal and his soldiers will live in Girdo or as mercenaries, Tadjeleon and his followers will probably join Krassio or form a new Church, et cetera.
10:07.55GhelaeOkay.
10:09.32GhelaeFor the first one, they should probably become mercenaries.
10:10.12ImperiosWhy?
10:11.17ImperiosHm... do you remember any empires on O or P
10:11.21GhelaeWell... it would mean that there's more possible storylines for them become involved in. If they join the Girdo Empire, it'll be a bit of a benefit to the Empire, but will ultimately just become part of the group mind.
10:11.25Imperiosnot Ottzel, they are UNO now.
10:11.46GhelaeO or P?
10:12.21GhelaeFor the second group of Dei'Ar survivors: obviously, ask the Valader if they can join the Krassio, and if not, then they'd probably end up making a new Church.
10:12.21Imperiosнуы
10:12.26Imperiosyes
10:12.35GhelaeWhat do you mean by that?
10:13.36ImperiosAgree.
10:13.47ImperiosSo, do you remember? MAJOR empires.
10:14.15GhelaeWhat about major empires?
10:14.30ImperiosStarting on O or P
10:14.43ImperiosI can only remember Da Propa Big Loron Empire.
10:14.50GhelaeOh, empires whose names start with "o" or "p". Okay, I'll think about it...
10:16.25GhelaeNo, I don't think there are any.
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11:48.24ImperiosOh BTW, Ghelae.
11:48.35ImperiosI have three ideas of themes for Loron.
11:48.40ImperiosCan you help me choose one?
11:49.06ImperiosFirst: Welcome to Orgrimmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGWTOImNTug
11:49.25ImperiosSecond: Orks Theme: Dawn of War - Orks Theme
11:49.30Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5uwihWGu-I
11:52.06ImperiosAnd third - The Green Horde Rises.
11:52.06Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5s04KYu-n8&playnext=1&list=PL3A59F4AD8F67F281
11:52.09ImperiosGhelae
11:52.11ImperiosGhelae?
11:52.13ImperiosGhelae?
11:52.15ImperiosGhelae?
11:52.17ImperiosGhelae!
11:53.36GhelaeYes?
11:53.49GhelaeSorry, I'd went for a short while and forgot to go "/nick Ghelae_away".
11:53.49Imperios[14:48] <Imperios> I have three ideas of themes for Loron. [14:48] <Imperios> Can you help me choose one? [14:49] <Imperios> First: Welcome to Orgrimmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGWTOImNTug [14:49] <Imperios> Second: Orks Theme: Dawn of War - Orks Theme [14:49] <Imperios> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5uwihWGu-I [14:52] <Imperios> And third - The Green Horde Rises. [14:52] <Imperios> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5s04KYu
11:54.03ImperiosSo what is the best?
11:54.06GhelaeI'm not really good with choosing theme tunes.
11:54.20GhelaeEspecially not with my near-complete lack of subjective opinions.
11:55.00GhelaeSo I don't think I can help you with that.
11:58.33ImperiosWhat do you think, must I include Pepis in SSA video?
11:58.45ImperiosThey are pretty minor, but they are still here.
12:00.11GhelaeI don't even think Creatureboy even does anything on SporeWiki any more... but if you ever do catch him, maybe you should ask him about it.
12:00.28ImperiosDo you remember any empires on R save for Rambo
12:01.55GhelaeNone for whom the users are still active, no.
12:02.05GhelaeAnd no others that are part of the SSA.
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12:48.30Wormyhi
12:48.50GhelaeHello!
12:50.39Wormyhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Vartekian_War#Realities_clash
12:50.55Wormy^ How the DCP and MSP will coexist
12:51.01Wormyfrom now on
12:51.05GhelaeYeah, I've read it.
12:51.21GhelaeThe alternate Girdo Galaxy doesn't sound like a very nice place at all...
12:52.11WormyIts rather dystopian
12:52.11ImperiosHeh, Rashaari Domain may come to visit as well...
12:52.41ImperiosThey are dictatorship, worse than even Radeon one.
12:52.58ImperiosI think they may be Nazis. Or not, I haven't yet chose.
12:53.09GhelaeWhile conversely, the Universal Federation is practically a utopia.
12:53.29WormyWhat's funny, is that although the DCP was even bigger up to the War of Ages, without an Onuris Alliance it fell the the Xhodocto, and surviving forces stayed in the Girdo galaxy which snapped itself off
12:53.30GhelaeHowever, I still have another 5980 years of its history to write about.
12:53.36ImperiosOr not... Dunno.
12:53.55Wormyfrom the universe
12:54.29WormyI also did my the GE - DCP battle http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Wargames#Galactic_Empire_vs._Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets
12:54.48GhelaeSo when the Sporehenge connects to 11 different dimensions, do you think of that as being dimensions in the scientific sense, or 11 different "Realities Altered" universes?
12:55.05WormyI meant M-theory
12:55.21GhelaeAh, so the former.
12:55.24WormyBut the 6th dimension, would lead to all possible astares of thge universe
12:55.30Wormy*states
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12:56.09WormyIncluding unobserved wavefunctions like The Legacy.  So the BCC exist there too
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12:57.01LotGHello.
12:57.15Wormyhi
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12:57.58OluapPlayerHi
12:57.59Imperios_Oh BTW
12:58.03Imperios_I am making a SSA video.
12:58.14Imperios_What is better as Loron Theme? I have 3 versions.
12:58.16GhelaeI turn away for two minutes and three more people arrive...
12:58.17LotGWhat is Ctulhu? I know its a Lovecraftian deity, but what exactly is it?
12:58.22GhelaeHi, Oluap, Luc, Imperios!
12:58.30Imperios_A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGWTOImNTug
12:58.40GhelaeLotG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu
12:58.42Imperios_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5uwihWGu-I
12:58.56Imperios_C: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5uwihWGu-I
12:58.59Imperios_What is the best
12:59.00Imperios_?
12:59.36Wormy@Ghelae:This helps in understanding dimensions, at 8:00 he starts speaking about the sixth - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K_MgAfeZkk
13:00.14WormyHe's a mathematician not a physicist but many like his theories on dimensions, inckuding Cambridge University
13:01.08Imperios_PEOPLE!
13:01.12WormyHe uses lots from other physics too, mosty digital, hologhraphic, many worlds interpretation etc
13:01.21GhelaeOkay.
13:02.17LotGCthulhu is a high priest? Something of his structure could never have existed. Its frankly impossible for something like that to survive in this world.
13:03.34GhelaeRead more of the page; it should explain more. I don't think Cthulhu's supposed to be any normal, physical creature.
13:05.09Wormy@OP:You mentioned that the Grox and DCP might find a short term mutual relationship, and destroy one of Shu'ulathoi's minions, which one would they destroy, O'm guessing Gobongogon
13:05.26OluapPlayerI don't mean a Dark Five member
13:05.33OluapPlayerI meant the Marinoxidiz
13:05.47OluapPlayerThe Grox will need to deal with Gobongogon themselves
13:05.56Imperios_Aw. BTW, Spodelings are going to fight fire with fire. And they are fighting with a lil' Shu.
13:06.30WormyOkay then.  So the DCP and Grox join forces and destroy the Marinoxidiz
13:06.42WormyIs this soon or later in the war?
13:06.45LotGVhoorl is Cthulhu's birthplace? I thought Cthulhu was an eternal being.
13:06.51OluapPlayer"Allies forces" join forces with Grox, not just DCP
13:06.54OluapPlayerLater
13:07.05Imperios_Nope. Cthulhu is an Elder Being. He isn;t eternal.
13:07.08Imperios_Yog-Sothoth is.
13:07.12Imperios_BTW
13:07.19Imperios_Cthulhu has a daughter.
13:07.30WormyNow I'm clear on it
13:07.50OluapPlayerImperios_: What do you mean with fighting fire with fire?
13:08.19Imperios_Well. They are going to literally turn worlds into a living nightmare to fight Shu'ulathoi.
13:08.38OluapPlayerI don't think that'll make any difference
13:08.41WormyHe is living nightmare
13:08.54OluapPlayerHe isn't bound to any world either
13:09.02LotGWait, Cthulhu has a daughter?
13:09.11Imperios_Yeeep.
13:09.26Imperios_Not Shu, his minions - Corrupti.
13:09.28GhelaeLooks like the shock was too much for Fiddich to take. :P
13:10.15OluapPlayerWell, almost all possessed creatures are considered "cannon fodder" to Shu'ulathoi, so he won't care much
13:10.41Wormylol
13:10.46Imperios_His daughter is names Cthylla.
13:10.46Imperios_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthylla
13:11.05OluapPlayerHe doesn't care for his slaves, he only cares for his Spawn
13:11.12LotGIf Tyraz in his curret demonic state was to take on the Dark Five, which one would he most likely be able to destroy?
13:11.33OluapPlayerI can't tell, I don't know how powerful Tyraz is
13:12.06Imperios_Okay, destroy spawns so.
13:12.16Imperios_They are Spawn-like beings themelves.
13:12.33LotGHe is as powerful as a Xhodocto Commoner. He also carries a Firesword given to him by Draguros as a mark of their link through Kezoreg.
13:13.15OluapPlayerIf he is as powerful as a Xhodocto, then he could kill any of the Dark Five
13:13.19Imperios_Telfinne... I guess she is roughly of the same power as Tyraz, or sli-i-i-i-ightly stronger.
13:13.22OluapPlayerThey would give him a lot of trouble though
13:13.39WormyStation Halcyon died
13:13.46Imperios_BTW
13:13.49Imperios_okay
13:13.50Imperios_bye
13:13.51OluapPlayerYou can tell by Gobongogon's attack on the Grox that they don't kid around
13:14.00LotGThat was Tobiaswolf's fault that Halcyon died.
13:14.22WormyI think I'll finish Episode 3 myself
13:14.29WormyIts not going anywhere
13:14.34Wormy@Lotg:Indeed
13:14.38LotGI think that once Telfinne becomes a bit more sane she will get stronger, as Tyraz is currently able to restrain her.
13:14.50WormyThen I will revive 4
13:16.43OluapPlayerI don't think he would have any reason to fight the Dark Five though
13:19.11LotGPerhaps Okastana meets Tyraz and end up not liking each other.
13:19.35OluapPlayerSo this means you want to join the war?
13:20.07LotGWell, what has happened in the war so far?
13:21.07OluapPlayerDracs, DCP and URC are battling the Marinox and Iteok, while Gobongogon is killing the Grox and the Xhodocto have just showed up
13:22.28OluapPlayerShu'ulathoi possessed Zavhros and AC is haunting a mercenary in his dreams
13:23.02LotGMaybe Tyraz could join, but not the Zazane. Well, maybe Shu manages to possess a single Zazane who would become an important character, but your war.
13:23.53OluapPlayerShu'ulathoi wanted the Zazane on his side, so that can happen
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13:39.58LotGHello.
13:40.04OluapPlayerHi
13:40.23LotGAnyway, Tyraz would be on neither Corruptus or Allies.
13:41.01OluapPlayerSo he's "neutral"?
13:41.18LotGHe;'s more on the side of the Ayrai'Shikua.
13:41.42OluapPlayerXhodocto are "almost" on Shu'ulathoi's side actually
13:42.42OluapPlayerSince they share objectives, they may help each other
13:43.29GhelaeWell, IIRC, the Xhodocto just don't care about Shu'ulathoi - if the Corruptus win, it's practically the same as if the Xhodocto win anyway - but they dislike the Allies, which is why they're more like they're on Shu's side.
13:44.30OluapPlayerWell, they care enough to help him according to what I duscussed with Xho
13:44.45GhelaeAh, okay.
13:44.50LotGHmm, well Tyraz might decide to take on the Dark Five to prove his strength amongst immortals.
13:45.19OluapPlayerThat would turn the Corruptus against him
13:46.15LotGBut would it? If Tyraz defeats all of the Dark Five, maybe Shu'ulathoi might do something more prosperous.
13:46.28LotGAt least, for Tyraz.
13:47.02OluapPlayerThe Dark Five are being used to distract Shu's enemies while he recovers his powers. If they are all destroyed, then he would be vulnerable
13:47.43OluapPlayerBut this actually gives me an idea
13:48.09OluapPlayerBut I'll need to spoil you a little
13:48.23LotGTell me your plan.
13:48.43OluapPlayerI'll tell you in private chat
13:48.51LotGRight.
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13:51.28ImperiosGre-e-etings.
13:51.33OluapPlayerHello again
13:51.45LotGTyraz can restrain Telfinne, if she becomes more sane when evil, perhaps she will get stronger.
13:52.22ImperiosHah. Telfinne's insanity is what makes her strong.
13:52.38LotGTyraz has ways.
13:52.54LotGNot very pleasant ways, but still ways nonetheless.
13:53.03OluapPlayerlol
13:53.05ImperiosOh, BTW.
13:53.14ImperiosI wonder.
13:53.35ImperiosDo you know what is bad with SporeWiki?
13:53.45LotGFurries
13:53.54ImperiosNo.
13:54.02ImperiosIt lacks a genre.
13:54.16LotGSci-fi, thats a genre.
13:54.45ImperiosReally
13:54.45Imperioslook
13:55.08GhelaeIt's probably better described as science fantasy.
13:55.37ImperiosDCP - in which every piece of tech is described with science and theories...
13:55.58Imperiosand your Zazane, zombie/demons with samurai swords.
13:56.06Imperiosand dark magic
13:56.30Imperiosthen there is Rambo, who are inbetween.
13:56.52ImperiosReally, we must choose. Hard SF or Science fantasy.
13:57.04WormyI The DCP are classed as a plusaibly hard sci-fi
13:57.08Imperiosyep
13:57.13WormyMost are soft sci-fi here
13:57.25LotGThey don't use samurai swords, look. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Zazane/Weapons
13:57.56Wormyi don't think we have to choose
13:58.00Imperiosand they coexist with honor-obsessed necromancers and demons from hell.
13:58.01Wormyit brings variety
13:58.20WormyAnd every user should have their unique imagnation
13:59.14Imperiosbut it's kinda weird.
13:59.31LotGLovecraft's fiction is weird, but its still good.
14:00.18ImperiosHm... I'd rather compare our universe to Warhammer 40k.
14:00.38Imperiosthere are both demons and techno aliens.
14:00.48LotGTrue, true.
14:01.22Imperiosbut well, LotG, maybe you will make Zazzies a little, little less fantasy?
14:01.35Imperiosnot that is the problem
14:02.24ImperiosCan you describe their technologies, etc?
14:02.36Wormyi think even the gods and demons in my fictions view are technological, so its no problem
14:02.49Wormythey are not that fantasy
14:02.57Imperiosyeah. Good 'ol Tric.
14:02.58Wormyno more than any other fiction
14:03.05Imperioswho wants to roleplay?
14:03.22ImperiosM?
14:03.40Imperiosaw, I wanted to make Descended Roleplay.
14:03.54ImperiosTyraz meets Telfinne and Tricarrion somehow
14:03.59Imperioswait
14:04.00ImperiosTyraz
14:04.02ImperiosTelfinne
14:04.07ImperiosTricarrion
14:04.14ImperiosT is evil letter!
14:04.25LotGTrue, true.
14:04.44Imperiosaw okay,
14:04.46Imperiosso
14:04.56Imperioswho wants to roleplay
14:05.18Imperiosyiff yiff yiff yi-i-if. O
14:05.18Imperioswait
14:05.25LotGWut?
14:05.26Imperioswhy I said it
14:05.32OluapPlayerlol
14:05.43OluapPlayerCalm down
14:05.48Imperiosmy furry self is trying to control me!
14:06.01ImperiosYIFF YIFF YIFF YIIIIIIIIIIIIFFF
14:06.15Imperiosok, joke.
14:06.28LotGTyraz and Telfinne, draw a pic of them together and you will be dragged outside and shot.
14:06.29ImperiosWHO WANTS TO ROLEPLAY?
14:06.35LotGI will.
14:06.52OluapPlayerSure let's rp
14:06.59ImperiosOkay
14:07.07LotGrpzone
14:15.43Wormy@Lotg:Look, your favourite chracter returns http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Station_Halcyon/Episode_three:Dark_Harbinger#Dark_shadow
14:22.28ImperiosEcilpsos returned?
14:22.38Imperioswhat would he do now?
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14:31.01WormyHe will take control of the MSP
14:32.52WormyI wonder what will become of the Emperor and Kilnok i the Destnies of time timeline
14:33.06WormyThey would probably merge with the future AI netspace
14:33.25Wormyboy that will be in the distant future
14:34.09WormyThe problem with immortality is that you would eventually forget who you are would change due to enough 7 year cellular generation ycles
14:34.33Wormyso to live forever and stsay tyhe same they might have to to merge
14:34.53WormyBut be able to project themselves into the univese when they want
14:35.07GhelaeOne of the main problems with biological immortality is, basically, that your brain would fill up with too much stuff.
14:36.33WormyI think eventually one would change into a different person
14:36.48WormyThey say every 7 years all the cells regenerate
14:37.11WormyThat brings up the problem of whether you are the same poerson as you was 7 years ago
14:37.21WormyImsgine ifyou was 70000 years old
14:37.30GhelaeThat depends on how you define as being "the same person", of course.
14:38.11Wormyi suppose the genetic information stays, but we are like coral in my view, the face changes onlu slightly as cells grow into the mould or template of the body
14:38.23WormyBut over time those cells might evolve
14:38.27Wormy*genes
14:39.02WormyWhen you think about multicelluar anaitomy its kind of gross
14:39.20WormyWe are like complex lichen
14:39.53WormyEven oirgans we are discovering have a mind of their own
14:39.57Wormy*organs
14:40.23WormyIts like a load of creatures living inside each other
14:40.44LotGEclipsos is back!!
14:41.04Wormyyep
14:41.11Wormyand he means business
14:42.29LotGThe MSP is gonna get bigger, faster, stronger, better.
14:44.22WormyThey alsdo merged with the Coalition of Delpha
14:44.27Wormydamn
14:44.44WormyWell, I must be going too bye
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16:05.57Um2k9Hello!
16:06.35GhelaeHi!
16:06.55Um2k9How are you?
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16:08.01Um2k9Hello!
16:09.08Elana-chanhi
16:09.21GhelaeHi!
16:09.48Um2k9Are you on the wiki?
16:09.49Elana-chanmade my first contrabution for the wiki the other day
16:09.56Elana-chanas of yesterday
16:09.56Um2k9Oh, late post.
16:10.09Um2k9Welcome to SporeWiki then!
16:10.16Elana-chanty
16:10.30Elana-chansomeone miss marked the max number of space stage trade routes
16:10.46Elana-chansaid 3 when I can visualy confirm each of my space saves have 5
16:11.09GhelaeI think it used to be three, but it was increased to five in an early patch.
16:11.23Elana-chanmight want to put a note in about that then
16:11.45Elana-chanI've never played with a max of 3
16:11.51Um2k9Yes, the wiki still has outdated information.
16:12.20Elana-chana foot note with the patch number would be good
16:12.27Elana-chandonno which patch or I'd do it myself
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16:14.21Um2k9Hello!
16:14.29OluapPlayerHi
16:14.53Elana-chanI'm fishing for an opinion in my game...I've introdused the borg into my galaxy and I'm wondering if I should have them ally the grox or attempt to assimilate them
16:15.21Um2k9Assimilating the Grox? That sounds interesting.
16:15.55Elana-chanit could be said that they could be allied through assimilation xD
16:16.09Elana-chansence they already have the look
16:17.39GhelaeWormulon did something similar; in his galaxy, after having several of their worlds assimilated, his Delpha Coalition of Planets tricked the Borg into going to war against the Grox.
16:26.17Um2k9~seen Wormy
16:26.29infobotwormy <55d34b56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.211.75.86> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 1h 41m 45s ago, saying: 'Well, I must be going too bye'.
17:13.02Elana-chanI have a question
17:13.30OluapPlayerWhat is it?
17:13.42Um2k9Yes?
17:14.13Elana-chando you think it's better to spread out a bunch of colonies with one in each system or build up more slowly, filling out each system before expanding more?
17:15.15GhelaeThere's no need to fill up all of the planets in the system. Unless the planets all have really valuable spice, it's actually pretty pointless.
17:15.45GhelaeSo, most of the time, it's best just to have one colonised planet per system.
17:16.34GhelaeFor example, you get the "Empire" badge for colonising multiple systems, not for colonising individual planets.
17:18.45Elana-chana friend was asking me something the other day I do not have an answer to
17:19.15Elana-chanif you kill off an empire that's been contacted in multiple saves, does the empire dissappear on the inactive save?
17:19.39GhelaeYes.
17:20.10GhelaeThe galaxy, down to the individual empires, is the same in every save game.
17:23.16Elana-chanso if I kill off the grox before I get the achivement for allying them the achivement will no longer be avalible without wiping the entire galaxy?
17:23.51GhelaeYes.
17:24.13GhelaeWell, it's not an achievement, it's a badge.
17:25.59Elana-chanif the saves are interlinked then howcome alliances don't persist between saves?
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17:28.28ImperiosHi Um
17:28.31ImperiosBTW
17:28.47ImperiosI strarted to make a SSA video. We wanted to split it, r-ight?
17:28.54Um2k9Hello!
17:29.22Um2k9Sure, if you want! However, I will be quite busy over the next few weeks.
17:30.04ImperiosWell, I wanted for you to make part that includes my main fiction and for me to make part that includes yours.
17:30.10Um2k9How will we split it?
17:30.35Um2k9Okay, that sounds like a good idea.
17:31.59Um2k9So, will this be on the old SSA, or the new?
17:32.17GhelaeElena-chan: alliances between save games only exist in one save game for some reason of which I'm not sure, but the actual geography (astrography?) of the galaxy remains the same in all saves.
17:32.31ImperiosThis will no longer be about SSA; it will be about all major species.
17:32.37ImperiosXhoddies and Da Loron included.
17:32.50Elana-chanI find it funny that between two saves, I can be at war in one save and allied in the other
17:32.56ImperiosFor example, A-O is you, P-Z is by me.]
17:34.10ImperiosBTW
17:34.13ImperiosYep.
17:35.06ImperiosWhat do you think; will Spodelings' minions be non-humanoid or humanoid in contrast to their masters?
17:35.13Um2k9What do you mean by ''major''? Perhaps we should make a blog listing the empires that will be included?
17:35.29Um2k9@Imperios: Non humanoid seems to make more sense.
17:35.43ImperiosYeah.
17:35.46ImperiosProbably
17:35.48Imperiosyou make a blog.
17:35.56Um2k9Okay!
17:37.01Um2k9We should probably call it the First Gigaquadrant Video.
17:43.46Um2k9How many empires will be included in each video?
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17:46.03CatfaceHello
17:46.07Um2k9Hello!
17:46.27OluapPlayerHi
17:46.33CatfaceTralor Freedom Force is dead! http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tralor_Civil_War#Freedom_Force.27s_last_stand
17:46.59Um2k9I know, the URC is quite sad, and will discuss the matter in the senate.
17:47.47CatfaceIs this the first time they was unable to save an ally from death?
17:47.58Um2k9Well it was very sudden!
17:48.33Um2k9Also, myself and Imperios are creating the second SSA video. Except, with all major empires like the CAS, Xhoddies, ULE etc.
17:48.47CatfaceYAY!
17:49.04OluapPlayerNeeds more me in it :>
17:49.30Um2k9lol
17:50.02Um2k9Brb
17:50.20Catface:( Um is left
17:57.04ImperiosCatface: What do you think; will Spodelings' minions be non-humanoid or humanoid in contrast to their masters?
17:57.43Catfacenon-humanoid
17:58.34GhelaeIt's not as if there's only two possible body types; "humanoid" and "non-humanoid". There can be various different typs of non-humanoid body shapes that would still contrast with the Eola'Nars' forms.
17:59.52Ghelaetypes*
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18:02.58Um2k9Hello!
18:03.10GhelaeWelcome back.
18:03.36Um2k9Thank you!
18:04.12CatfaceWelcome back!
18:04.20CatfaceHey Um, did you get that demo?
18:04.39Um2k9Nope
18:04.48Um2k9It would distract me!
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18:05.03IrskaadBoo
18:05.09CatfaceDistract is good!
18:05.11Um2k9Hello!
18:05.11CatfaceHello
18:05.25IrskaadSo, how's everyone?
18:05.47CatfaceGood
18:05.51Elana-chantrying to fill out my systems
18:06.06OluapPlayerHello
18:12.55Um2k9http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Um2k9/First_Gigaquadrant_Videos
18:13.21Um2k9Imperios?
18:14.44IrskaadIn Asgordian language, Marinoxidiz is "Marinozidiz".
18:15.37OluapPlayerHeh
18:15.40OluapPlayerThat sounds strange
18:16.00IrskaadWell, that's what Um2k9 wrote in his blog, in that link.
18:16.19OluapPlayerlol
18:17.14Um2k9I get the shortest section!
18:18.26Catface:(: Bipolar
18:18.50GhelaeWhat about :): ?
18:19.13CatfaceIt is happen than sad.
18:19.18Catface*happy
18:20.24Catface@Um What song are you going to use for the ULE?
18:20.52Um2k9What do you want for it?
18:21.31CatfaceSomething warriorish.
18:22.00Um2k9Okay!
18:23.28OluapPlayerCan I suggest songs?
18:23.34Um2k9Sure!
18:24.30CatfaceWhat is your limit on songs, Um?
18:24.47Um2k9Oh, I have an idea for a lot of empires
18:25.20GhelaeAww, no Tokzhalan Empire on the list? :(
18:25.20Ghelae:P
18:25.47Um2k9Oh sorry Ghelae!
18:25.51OluapPlayerOh wait
18:26.00OluapPlayerYou aren't making the Drac/Marinox
18:26.20CatfaceJust don't choose this for the ULE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wod-MudLNPA
18:26.47GhelaeIf you think there's going to be too many empires in the video, there isn't really much about either the Empire of the Girdo Galaxy or the Tokzhalan Empire, and also they're actually very similar, so they could just be added to the list as two factions of "the Empire".
18:27.09OluapPlayerNevermind
18:27.48Um2k9Well the empires sections will be quite short. Probably 30 - 50 seconds.
18:31.29CatfaceUm, if you need help with the ULE's song than here is an idea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqGpx4xSFps
18:33.20Um2k9Sure, I will try find it!
18:36.40CatfaceOkay, if you can't than just use what you was going to.
18:44.17CatfaceGhelae is not away anymore!
18:44.30IrskaadYay!
18:44.30GhelaeOr am I?
18:44.42GhelaeOoohh...
18:45.01OluapPlayerDun dun duuuuuun
18:45.02Um2k9~decapitate Ghelae
18:45.02infobotACTION cuts of Ghelae's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper
18:45.11GhelaeOw.
18:45.15Ghelae~revive Ghelae
18:45.15infobotACTION performs the Heimlich, mouth-to-mouth, shock treatment and anything else necessary to revive Ghelae
18:45.20Ghelae~annoy Um2k9
18:45.20infobotACTION dances around Um2k9, poking whenever possible, tickling or doing whatever necessary to annoy Um2k9 to the maximum amount
18:45.40Um2k9~assimilate Ghelae
18:45.40infobotACTION jams assimilation tubes into Ghelae's neck and injects Borg nanobots.
18:45.41Catfacehttp://www.interstellarmarines.com/
18:45.55Ghelaetakes over the Borg Collective and uses it against Um2k9
18:46.02Ghelae~exterminate Um2k9
18:46.02infobotACTION zaps Um2k9 with a low-budget lazer beam effect, then continues roving about every which way,  while shouting "exterminate! exterminate!" with a rasping staccato voice
18:46.18CatfaceUm was already the borg queen!
18:46.18Um2k9~haunt Ghelae
18:46.23Um2k9lol
18:49.08Catface~Billion dollar babies
18:56.58Um2k9Bye everyone!
18:57.03IrskaadBye!
18:57.27Catfacebye
18:57.39CatfaceIrsk, did you get my flag request?
18:58.23IrskaadYep, I did. You want 2 spears crossing the Spiral Galaxy in your request? If so, which color?
18:59.31CatfaceThe galaxy I want to mw cyan and the bg to be dark blue.
18:59.46CatfaceThe spears can just be black or something
18:59.50IrskaadYep, what about the spears?
18:59.52IrskaadOh.
19:00.17IrskaadOk. I will make it after I made the Tertamian Flag for Imperios. But first I have things to do.
19:00.22Irskaadmake*
19:00.58CatfaceOkay
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19:16.22Um2k9Hello!
19:16.29Um2k9I have returned!
19:16.41IrskaadHello!
19:16.45Um2k9Hi!
19:17.21Dino__hello
19:22.48Um2k9Hello, but I have to leave again!
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19:23.52GhelaeBRB
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19:25.09ImperiosHello.
19:25.15IrskaadHello!
19:25.24Dino__hello
19:27.08Um2k9_Hi!
19:27.53Ghelaeback.
19:27.59GhelaeHi!
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19:30.33OluapPlayerI'm back
19:30.42IrskaadHello!
19:30.47Um2k9_Bye!
19:30.51Dino___hello Olup
19:30.51IrskaadBye1
19:30.54IrskaadBye!
19:30.57Dino___ehm meant oluap
19:31.07Dino___bye irskaad
19:31.07GhelaeHi! Bye!
19:31.14OluapPlayerBye
19:31.15GhelaeWhoever's coming and going...
19:31.16ImperiosI was watching a film.
19:31.17IrskaadI'm not going!
19:31.20GhelaeI'm not sure now.
19:31.22Um2k9_I am going!
19:31.36GhelaeAh, Um's going, Oluap's arrived... anybody else?
19:31.57IrskaadNope.
19:32.11Dino___no
19:32.16OluapPlayeridunno
19:32.33GhelaeApparently not.
19:33.10ImperiosWaut
19:33.13Imperiosokay
19:33.22IrskaadOluap, I was thinking on making a part to the 2nd Black Fog War where the Iteok attack the Dracs and the Asgord try to ally Shu'ulathoi.
19:33.30ImperiosIt is celebration in Russia now.
19:33.42IrskaadWhat are you all celebrating?
19:34.03ImperiosДень защитника отечества
19:34.17ImperiosDay of defender of Fatherland.
19:34.19ImperiosOr
19:34.29ImperiosDefender of Fatherland's day.
19:34.30ImperiosDunno.
19:34.34OluapPlayerIrskaad: Go on
19:34.58IrskaadHow powerful are the Dracogonarious? And where can the Asgord find Shu'ulathoi?
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19:35.35Wormyhi
19:35.38ImperiosIt comes from some kinda of military uprising during the Russian Civil War, I think. But now, it isn't only a military celebration.
19:35.43OluapPlayerThe Dracogonarious's technology rivals the Marinoxidiz's, even with their entropic enhancements
19:35.44OluapPlayerHi Wormy
19:36.04ImperiosHm... is March 8th celebrated in your country Irsk?
19:36.09IrskaadNope.
19:36.11Wormyhello everyone
19:36.19WormyPancake day?
19:36.26IrskaadOluap: How would the Iteok fare against the Dracs?
19:36.31OluapPlayerAnd to find Shu'ulathoi...I don't know
19:36.35ImperiosWeeeird.
19:36.44WormyAre U talking about pancake day?
19:36.48OluapPlayerDracs would have trouble but would probably win
19:36.59IrskaadOk.
19:37.05Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrove_Tuesday
19:37.09ImperiosWait a mi-i-i-nute.
19:37.10ImperiosInternational Women's Day
19:37.12ImperiosDamn.
19:37.17OluapPlayerNo one actually knows about Shu'ulathoi right now except for the Marinoxidiz and the Xhodocto
19:37.20ImperiosIt's damn International.
19:37.25OluapPlayerAnd the Iteok
19:37.44ImperiosSo March 8th isn't celebrated in your country?
19:37.44Dino___Oluapplay,er do yo unow a way to include a Rambo event in the 2nd Blac War of Fog?
19:37.45IrskaadOk. Well, Asgord heard of him through the Iteok, Shu's all over the Iteok and TerFed news.
19:37.46WormyShrove Tuesday is on the same day
19:38.29Imperiosstill... Is International Women's Day celebrated in your countries guys?
19:38.32WormyWho is Elena-chan?
19:38.33Imperiosand girls.
19:38.40Wormydunno
19:39.21Imperios[22:38] <Imperios> still... Is International Women's Day celebrated in your countries guys?
19:39.30OluapPlayerDino___: I don't know, they don't have any reason to do it
19:40.15ImperiosPEEPZ?
19:40.30OluapPlayerI don't know, Imperios
19:40.46ImperiosSo you never noticed a march 8th? Anything?
19:41.10ImperiosOkay.
19:41.11ImperiosStill
19:41.19Dino___yes I assume here too, but it is not really a major event
19:41.25Dino___you don't get free froim work or school for it
19:41.45ImperiosToday is Fatherland's Defender Day, which is also men's day.
19:41.48ImperiosMales' day.
19:41.48ImperiosXD
19:42.08ImperiosOkay, you get free from school actually today.
19:42.35ImperiosBut this doesn't change things. I catched a disease.
19:42.40Dino___oh ok
19:43.57OluapPlayerThe Asgord may try to ally the Marinoxidiz. That's the closest thing from allying Shu'ulathoi
19:44.19IrskaadLol, ok. XD What tech do Dracs use?
19:44.20ImperiosAren't they SO STUPID
19:44.24OluapPlayerThey would refuse and attack the Asgord or tell the Iteok to do that for them though
19:44.37ImperiosSeriously, they are second Lorons.
19:45.16OluapPlayerTheir technology is like the technology of a 5-star empire in Spore
19:47.14OluapPlayerThat is an interesting idea...
19:47.51OluapPlayerMarinox tell the Iteok to attack the Asgord. What will they do now?
19:51.59IrskaadIteok attack the Asgord. The Asgord are so stupid they'll think they made a mistake, and get out of Mxidiz territory.
19:52.41OluapPlayerlol
19:53.19IrskaadWhat tech does a 5 star empire have?
19:53.40OluapPlayerI don't know fr technology works
19:53.46OluapPlayerhow*
19:54.05IrskaadI asked what did they have.
19:56.01Dino___I am leaving,
19:56.05Dino___connection issues with the IRC
19:56.06IrskaadBye.
19:56.07Dino___see ya
20:10.41GhelaeIt's quiet right now for so many people.
20:11.25Wormybrb dinner
20:11.31Wormyi made it worse
20:12.06GhelaeOkay.
20:15.11Irskaadhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog#Calling_Everyone_cute_will_not_get_you_an_alliance.
20:15.26Irskaad(Add . to the link)
20:16.05GhelaeWhy not just remove . from the title?
20:16.15IrskaadOh, ok.
20:16.29Irskaadhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog#Calling_Everyone_cute_will_not_get_you_an_alliance
20:16.41IrskaadThis is classic funny Asgord.
20:17.45GhelaeAsgord alliance methods seem to fail against so many races. How did they succeed in getting so many allies in the first place?
20:18.20IrskaadBecause they were peaceful and never went to any wars, so the Kraw Galaxy respected them for that.
20:18.36OluapPlayerHeh
20:18.52OluapPlayerYou actually did what I suggested
20:18.52IrskaadWhat did you think, Oluap?
20:18.56GhelaeAnd it's just empires outside of Kraw who don't think the same way?
20:19.19IrskaadGhelae: That is Unknown.
20:19.29OluapPlayerIt was cool
20:20.03OluapPlayerI'm guessing she will try again in the future
20:20.08IrskaadYep.
20:20.26IrskaadShe is determined to ally the Marinoxidiz and Shu'ulathoi.
20:21.26OluapPlayerThey would keep telling the Iteok to attack her if she persists
20:21.33IrskaadName a Drac planet.
20:21.43OluapPlayerHomeworld?
20:21.50IrskaadNo, a random planet.
20:21.58OluapPlayerOh
20:22.03OluapPlayerLet me see
20:22.08IrskaadPS: If there's a Draka-2, then where is Draka-1?
20:22.36OluapPlayerTheir home system is called Draka, and it has 4 planets
20:22.45OluapPlayerThe first planet in the system is Draka-1
20:23.02IrskaadOh.
20:23.23IrskaadSo, name a Drac planet. A random one.
20:23.24GhelaeWhy would a civilisation name their planets like that? Did they develop a heliocentric model of the universe before they decided to name the big thing underneath their feet?
20:23.25OluapPlayerThird planet is Draka-3 and fourth is Draka-4
20:24.26OluapPlayerThey named their planets while in tribal stage and never though of changing the names
20:24.31OluapPlayerBecause they don't have a reason to
20:25.35OluapPlayerRandom name: Ghentis
20:25.42IrskaadOk, thank you.
20:25.46GhelaeSo they developed a heliocentric model of the universe before they invented the wheel? I suppose they could have had a drastically different history of technological development, but telescopes in the Tribal Stage... I guess it might be possible, just about.
20:26.29OluapPlayerTheir system is small compared to others, all planets are visible from naked eye
20:26.41OluapPlayerPretty much how Venus, Mars and Jupiter can be seen from Earth
20:27.08GhelaeAnd yet, humans still needed telescopes to realise that the Sun doesn't revolve around the Earth.
20:27.19GhelaeAnd the other planets, too.
20:28.15OluapPlayerWell, their planet was considered the "Draka-1" before they had technologies
20:28.27OluapPlayerThey though their world was the closest to the "big light"
20:28.29GhelaeOf course, they could also have been so much of a scientific race that they decided to change the names of their planets to reflect changing scientific knowledge.
20:29.27OluapPlayerAfter they discovered orbits, then they changed their name from 1 to 2
20:30.27GhelaeActually, thinking about it, one possible barrier to discovering the truth about the universe on Earth might have been the fact that our moon is, in effect, tidally-locked, so without a telescope all astronomical objects seem to be just discs orbiting the Earth.
20:30.50GhelaeOn a planet where the moon can be seen to rotate, the native species might not be so stuck to a geocentric model.
20:33.51OluapPlayerI'm making up all this right now btw :v
20:35.30GhelaeGood.
20:35.35GhelaeThat's the best way to make things up.
20:35.45OluapPlayerlol
20:39.44GhelaeBRB
20:43.22Ghelaeback
20:44.56Irskaadhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog#Battle_of_Ghentis
20:48.27OluapPlayerSo next battle will involve Zavhros?
20:48.31IrskaadYep.
20:49.27OluapPlayerIteok need to win a little too
20:49.34Irskaad=D
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