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08:23.19Illam_AuccuarR17 here, Hi Ghelae
08:23.29GhelaeHello!
08:23.59Illam_AuccuarIf You were wondering why I am using this name, it is because it is My "Gropaga" name, as told by Inglip.
08:24.07Illam_Auccuarhttp://knowyourmeme.com/memes/inglip
08:24.16Illam_AuccuarI got it from a captcha.
08:24.18Illam_Auccuarby Inglip.
08:24.25GhelaeI know; you've told us about Inglip before.
08:25.01Illam_AuccuarYes, of course.
08:25.35Illam_AuccuarI plan on trying to get another person to also become a Gropaga, a follower of Inglip.
08:25.50GhelaeI'm working on building "the Archipelago", part of the new SporeWiki fantasy universe, in Spore. So if you ever mention anything and I don't respond within a few minutes, there's a good chance that that's why.
08:26.08GhelaeIn case you're wondering... I'm not going to become a Gropaga.
08:26.22Illam_AuccuarYes, I know, but it was someone else I was talking about.
08:26.24Illam_AuccuarNot You.
08:26.29GhelaeOkay.
08:26.43Ghelae...Who?
08:26.55Illam_AuccuarWell, I cannot reveal that yet.
08:27.00GhelaeAh, okay.
08:27.16Illam_AuccuarAnd someday, I plan on helping Inglip to completely destroy His enemies, especially Chydreno, that fool.
08:27.22Illam_AuccuarI cannot be converted to His side.
08:27.32Illam_AuccuarInglip is superior to them.
08:28.14Illam_AuccuarAnd someday, some of the XR will be part of the Grisidly Army.
08:28.30Illam_AuccuarBTW, what else?
08:28.57Illam_AuccuarAnd can You explain Majorons again and how could Pseudomatter destroy both matter and antimatter with majorons?
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08:30.41Illam_AuccuarAs I said again, can You explain Majorons again and how could Pseudomatter destroy both matter and antimatter with majorons?
08:31.35GhelaeOkay.
08:32.16Illam_AuccuarSo what are Majorons? What do they do? And how can Majorons destroy Antimatter and Matter alike?
08:32.32Illam_AuccuarAnd same thing with Pseudomatter, which consists of majorons, I guess...
08:32.39GhelaeI think, ultimately, the way that majorons work (in the SporeWiki universe) is that, essentially, they move "particloids" around, which can be used to, amongst other things, completely break apart another particle.
08:32.50Illam_AuccuarOh, I see.
08:32.51GhelaeWow... comma overload. :P
08:33.01Illam_AuccuarLol.
08:33.20Illam_Auccuarhttp://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-500706604003 - The TIAF won't see this one coming.
08:34.18GhelaeMatter and antimatter are ultimately the same from a majoron's perspective - an antimatter particle is exactly the same as a matter particle, only it differs in its electric charge, and electric charge is the result of particloids, which ultimately means that the majorons are beyond matter/antimatter distinctions.
08:34.43Ghelaeclicks on the sporepedia link and R+'s the spaceship
08:36.03Illam_AuccuarOkay.
08:38.00Illam_AuccuarWhat else?
08:39.02Illam_AuccuarBTW, I could do the House Xarikuz Military page soon...
08:40.27Illam_AuccuarWhat would the Girdo and Tokzhalan think of the XR? I know this may have been repeated again but....
08:41.03GhelaeThe Girdo Empire would consider them to be unnecessarily aggressive and violent.
08:41.15Illam_AuccuarAnd the Tokz?
08:41.23Illam_AuccuarThe Tokzhalan?
08:42.09Illam_AuccuarWhat would they think of the XR?
08:42.21GhelaeThe Tokzhalan Empire would think similarly, but not to as great an extent as the Girdo Empire, but would also get the impression that the XR need to sort out some sort of long-term system of priorities.
08:42.35Illam_AuccuarWhat priorities?
08:42.49Illam_AuccuarAnd what do You mean by long-term system?
08:42.51GhelaeThey'd think that the XR are just intent on indiscriminate conquest, rather than trying to achieve a long-term goal.
08:43.07GhelaeA goal other than conquering the universe, that is.
08:43.18Illam_AuccuarWell, they don't know that XR also have goals other than conquering the universe.
08:43.31GhelaeWell, of course.
08:43.49Illam_AuccuarThey are intent on turning most of it into a dystopia, and exterminating every single machine/cyborg race, like the Grox and Marinoxidiz.
08:44.05Illam_AuccuarAnd a few other goals?
08:44.13Illam_AuccuarWell, those are just to name a few.
08:44.32GhelaeDo they realise that a lot of species have cybernetic implants, although ones that are less obvious than those of the Grox?
08:44.54GhelaeOr do they only wish to destroy those that are ultimately more machine than organic?
08:45.06Illam_AuccuarThe latter.
08:45.14GhelaeOkay.
08:45.35Illam_AuccuarAnd they also hate anyone who is an ally of such a race.
08:45.43Illam_AuccuarThey'd despise the Tokzhalan TBH.
08:45.53GhelaeYeah, that makes sense.
08:46.03Illam_AuccuarBut instead of "Allied with Grox" they'd think "Allies of Freaks!"
08:46.37Illam_AuccuarSince the XR refer to almost every single race that is cybernetic (in a sense like the Grox and Borg) or Mechanical as a freak.
08:46.48GhelaeAlthough Mazipnos thinks that his Empire's alliance with the Grox is more of a means to manipulate them into doing his work for him, and ultimately as a means of leading the Grox to their own destruction.
08:47.09Illam_AuccuarThe XR are not aware of that currently.
08:47.32GhelaeI know. Then again, they probably also aren't aware that the Tokzhalan Empire is allied to the Grox anyway.
08:47.50Illam_AuccuarUntil soon...
08:48.56Illam_AuccuarBTW, it is possible that the Kraw Galaxy would become a dystopia called the "Iteok-Radux Galaxy" like with Otzello became Kralzello and that the Kraw, Tahar, FRA and possibly the FKA will be running away and trying to recover for 10 SporeWiki Years.
08:49.12Illam_AuccuarThanks to House Xarikuz.
08:49.50GhelaePerhaps. Although, Kralzello isn't really dystopian. It's fine for the New Kralgon Empire, but the UNO isn't in a very good state.
08:50.30Illam_AuccuarYes, I know.
08:51.58Illam_AuccuarAlso, the Tyrekians and Komorians are coming to SporeWiki to temporarily replace the Kraw according to Irskaad.
08:52.37Illam_AuccuarI think the Zeomun could also come, they're a fiction of mine BTW.
08:53.31GhelaeWhat are the Zeomun like? As in, their personality.
08:55.04Illam_AuccuarNeutral with a bit of evil, Trader Race, but not in the common sense, mercantile, their wealth makes them a bit paranoid but also powerful, and they don't care for trust or honor, and somewhat calculating, a bit almost machine-like in thinking as well as nearly emotionless and cold and manipulative.
08:55.12Illam_AuccuarBut they aren't cyborgs or machines though.
08:56.14GhelaeOkay.
08:56.29Illam_AuccuarThey are kinda like these guys - http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/House_Ordos
08:56.37Illam_AuccuarAnd I based them off of them.
08:57.54Illam_AuccuarAnd also, the Xarik-Radux originally, were partially inspired and based off of - http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/House_Harkonnen
08:58.46Illam_AuccuarBTW, lol - http://www.moddb.com/members/cnc-fin/images/soviet-engineering#imagebox
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09:06.37R17*Facepalm* Annoying Connection Errors. -_-
09:06.45R17Illam Auccuar was Me BTW.
09:07.05XhoI think I gathered that
09:07.43R17http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110116060952/spore/images/7/73/Okay.PNG
09:08.08R17BTW, lol. - http://media.moddb.com/images/members/1/378/377734/soviet_engineering.jpg
09:08.15XhoI'm going on Spore
09:08.32R17Okay.
09:15.16R17BTW, gotta' go, BRB, I'll come back later.
09:23.51R17I am back.
09:23.57R17And I am anticipating for Irskaad.
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09:43.18Xho...
09:43.21XhoHello
09:43.26IrskaadHello.
09:44.24XhoI've made an Elite Demon.
09:44.35IrskaadCool, can I see?
09:44.58XhoOkay, let me get a picture then I will show it to you.
09:45.05IrskaadOk.
09:45.30IrskaadBy the way, did you vote on the poll in the comment in my blog?
09:45.34R17Hi Irskaad.
09:45.42IrskaadHello, R17.
09:45.51XhoI did
09:45.54XhoI voted No
09:46.04IrskaadOk. =D
09:46.14Illum_AuccuarBTW, Illum Auccuar is My Gropaga name BTW.
09:46.17IrskaadHello, Mighty Gropaga!
09:47.03Illum_AuccuarAnd Inglip is sending Me to My first quest.
09:47.20IrskaadWhich is it?
09:50.43Illum_AuccuarWell, He told Me that there is a person named General Chirlite.
09:50.54IrskaadAnd?
09:51.04Illum_AuccuarWho has some info about the Origins of a place called Ecidelg.
09:51.15Irskaad*Laughs* And?
09:51.23Illum_AuccuarAnd that Ecidelg contains Gemstones.
09:51.37Illum_AuccuarAnd He wants the Gemstones for Medical and Medicinal Purposes.
09:51.51IrskaadCool.
09:52.14Illum_AuccuarBTW, are You interested in being a Gropaga?
09:52.21IrskaadNope.
09:53.16Illum_AuccuarAwww man, it was interesting to see what missions Inglip has for You, and besides, We could help Him destroy His enemies.
09:54.25Illum_Auccuar#sporerp
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13:09.24IrskaadXho!
13:17.51IrskaadAnyone there?
13:20.28XhoI am here now
13:21.12IrskaadHello. I've ended the poll already. I've decided to keep the Tyrekkies and also, I've made their population "Estimated".
13:22.09XhoAh
13:22.11XhoGood idea
13:22.58IrskaadSo basically, nobody from the 1st Gigaquadrant actually knows their population, thus it could be lower.
13:23.45IrskaadThe Tyrekians suffered from "Taldar Syndrome". Wow.
13:25.07XhoHeheh
13:25.19XhoTaldar Syndrome XD
13:26.17IrskaadAnd here I was, thinking that they would criticize their fleet numbers the most.
13:26.30XhoWell nowadays 100 billion is small
13:26.36XhoAnd they're from another universe
13:26.44XhoSo they have a few more liberties than usual
13:26.52Irskaad=D
13:27.08XhoWell look at the Shka'Tun
13:27.14Irskaad"The Tyrekian population count is unknown to everyone, but estimates show that it could be around the 23 Trillion range. The exact amount is unknown, and it could go as low as 20 Trillion." What I wrote in their page.
13:27.27XhoCool cool
13:27.41XhoThe Shka'Tun have a pop of 610 trillion
13:27.52XhoA fleet of 150 trillion ships
13:28.05XhoMind you their star count is immense
13:28.14IrskaadWow.
13:28.25IrskaadHow did you get them here without criticism?
13:28.26XhoI don't know exactly myself
13:28.35XhoBecause they're years old
13:28.42XhoWell not years
13:28.44XhoA year
13:28.49IrskaadWow.
13:29.00XhoAnd they were from another universe as well
13:29.46XhoSphagarzi...
13:29.50XhoWhat's their population
13:29.53XhoLet me take a look
13:30.18Xho5.98 Trillion
13:30.43IrskaadCool.
13:31.47IrskaadI wish Jo was on MSN.
13:31.55XhoI wish I was
13:32.22IrskaadUninstall then reinstall the latest version.
13:32.41XhoI tried
13:32.47XhoIt fails to UNINSTALL
13:33.25IrskaadTry searching on google: "Can't Uninstall MSN"
13:33.40IrskaadIt should show some forums which may help you.
13:36.23IrskaadAny Luck?
13:36.35XhoNope
13:36.41Irskaad=(
13:37.09IrskaadTry deleting the MSN Folder in your hard drive, then reinstall again.
13:40.14XhoWhy didn't I think of that
13:40.30Irskaad=D You did it?
13:40.37XhoNot yet
13:40.45Irskaad=D =D =D
13:43.53Irskaad(Lunch, see you soon.)
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14:10.52Creatureboy11Hello.
14:11.04IrskaadHi, CB11!
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14:11.12Creatureboy11Me be on me channel.
14:11.16Wormyhello there
14:11.20Creatureboy11Hi Wormy. I'll be on my channel.
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14:11.25IrskaadHi Wormy!
14:11.30WormyHello
14:11.46IrskaadTyrekian Population is now Estimated.
14:12.05Wormy@Ghelae:  looks like Liquid like our idea of Mana
14:12.31Wormy@Irsk: I don't mind that much really.
14:12.49IrskaadOk, cool. So, anyways, how's everything?
14:13.25WormyIyts youir fiction, yes I do kinda agree its a very big number and pop density could be a factor but the Tyrekians are in another universe
14:13.45IrskaadIndeed.
14:13.46WormyOne which they must have had time to evolve likethat
14:14.08IrskaadCool.
14:14.14WormyHow's everything?  Well today for the wiki I have two main plans
14:14.28IrskaadWhich ones?
14:14.58WormyI want to improve the First Gigaquadrant page, make it more about poliotical connection of galaxies (see my recent post onMush's blog)
14:15.23WormyMake a difference between its plotical and astrophysical; definitions
14:15.34IrskaadCool.
14:16.14WormyAfter that, I p[lan to make a map of the subtle body for the elemental article, and make a connection between inner and outer planews of perception and the Realms on the wiki
14:16.34WormyBased on my research and ideas
14:17.03WormyDo you have any suggestions for the First Gi' artcle?
14:17.08Wormy*gig
14:17.41IrskaadNope.
14:19.11WormyI might even make an intetgalactic map for the DCP
14:19.22IrskaadCool.
14:19.28WormyI will begin work on it now
14:23.37Wormy~fetch Ghelae
14:23.40GhelaeI just posted a comment about the Tyrekian population issue on your blog, Irskaad, because the issue hadn't really been resolved (a poll isn't going to convince The Randomness that it actually is realistic). And yes, it is actually realistic, assuming the Tyrekians made sure to stick completely to the Guide to Galactic Expansion.
14:23.44GhelaeHi, Wormy!
14:23.51Wormyhello!
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14:24.10WormyI woul;d like your feedback if you have any on my latest post on Mush's blog
14:24.14IrskaadHi, Gropaga!
14:24.19Illam_AuccuarHi guys, R17 here.
14:24.25Wormyhi there
14:24.28Illam_AuccuarHi Irskaad, You guessed Me correctly.
14:25.09Illam_AuccuarBTW, what else?
14:25.32Wormy<PROTECTED>
14:25.36Wormytoday
14:25.37Illam_AuccuarWhat are those?
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14:27.15Rawrsaucehi
14:27.22IrskaadGhelae: Replied to your comment.
14:27.31Illam_AuccuarSo what else.
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14:27.36Illam_Auccuar?*
14:27.36GhelaeHi!
14:27.44IrskaadHi, Ultan!
14:27.45Um2k9hi
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14:27.51Illam_AuccuarWow, so late in the night, and it seems that there will be many people coming to IRC.
14:27.58Wormy_hates_his_Two - Make a map showing where all the eneries and planes are in relation to the body
14:28.08Um2k9Different timezones
14:28.15Illam_AuccuarWait first, Worm, what happened?
14:28.27Wormy_hates_his_I called myself Wormy_hates_his_connectiion because my connecton failed
14:28.34Illam_AuccuarOh, I see.
14:28.44Wormy_hates_his_If you sent me any replies I must have missed them
14:29.23Illam_AuccuarBTW, what else?
14:29.28Um2k9Wormy, Dino and I decided that the Quadrants are the M101 group a while ago.
14:29.32Wormy_hates_his_What did I miss?  Did you get my post?
14:30.17Illam_AuccuarWhat do You think of the new name I am using,
14:30.21Illam_Auccuar.*
14:30.22Wormy_hates_his_Well that was the conclusion I came to
14:30.29Illam_AuccuarIt is My Gropaga name.
14:30.33Wormy_hates_his_The compansion galaxies are part of the group
14:30.34Illam_AuccuarHail Inglip.
14:30.48Wormy_hates_his_cults...
14:30.53Um2k9Indeed, I discovered them on Celestia!
14:31.13Illam_AuccuarBTW, what cults?
14:31.34Wormy_hates_his_./rename Wormy
14:31.52Wormy_hates_his_I thought this inglip looked like a weird internet meme cult
14:32.00Ghelae...are you trying to type "/nick Wormy"?
14:32.10Illam_AuccuarBTW, it is so strange that Inglip wants Gemstones for Medicinal and Medical purposes.
14:32.22WormyTHanks Ghelae
14:32.23Illam_AuccuarCan You explain Me about the Medicinal and Medical Purposes of Gemstones?
14:32.57GhelaeThere aren't any. He's obviously hiding something from you.
14:33.09Illam_AuccuarWho's hiding something?
14:33.09IrskaadGhelae, read my comment?
14:33.12Illam_AuccuarInglip?
14:33.24Illam_AuccuarAlso, where can I get seven falchions?
14:33.30Wormy@R17: Stone healing?  Well crystals hold a lot of energy, when striking two quartz crystals, tribolumenescence will occur
14:33.37GhelaeR17: Yes, Inglip.
14:33.42Illam_Auccuar@Worm: What is that?
14:33.49WormySome think it has a calming effect og the body
14:34.04Illam_AuccuarAnd Who is General Chirlite?
14:34.16GhelaeIrskaad: Yes, I've seen it. The problem is, you're starting to argue against your own point. If they're now using automation, then why should the population increase so much?
14:34.21Um2k9So Wormy, are you making a political map of the Gigaquadrant?
14:34.30GhelaeThe population on Earth has mostly increased as much as it has because...
14:34.36WormySort of.
14:34.39IrskaadGhelae: They do both things. =P
14:34.45WormyIt will be simple
14:34.48Um2k9I can help!
14:34.50Illam_AuccuarSo, what else?
14:35.03WormyThe most important, connected galaxies will be dits with a colour
14:35.08Wormy*dots
14:35.13Ghelae...okay. So, I don't need to explain why there should be little population increase now, then?
14:35.17Illam_AuccuarAnd also, I am seeking someone who can be a fellow gropaga, could one of You be?
14:35.20WormyYou'll see what I'm planning
14:35.47IrskaadGhelae: Population increase is slowing down now.
14:36.03GhelaeBecause of less cloning?
14:36.18IrskaadGhelae: Because of FAR LESS Cloning.
14:36.22GhelaeOkay.
14:36.46IrskaadGhelae: Also, I made their population "estimated".
14:36.46Um2k9The Milky Way, Cyrannus/Quadrants, Tigris, Girdo and XS are probably the most important at the moment.
14:36.48WormyYou know I don't like how the Gigaquadrants have been classified
14:36.55Illam_AuccuarXS?
14:37.00Illam_AuccuarWhat galaxy is that?
14:37.13Um2k9Of course Kraw also.
14:37.14Wormy100 billion square light years?  Sh*
14:37.17GhelaeIrskaad: It's all okay now.
14:37.29Um2k9Xanthrus Spiral.
14:37.43IrskaadGhelae: Thank you.
14:37.47WormyWe really don't need more
14:37.48Illam_AuccuarOh, I see.
14:38.21GhelaeWormy: Back to a topic that I should have got to a while ago... so, has Liquid Ink agreed that "Mana Energy" is just another means of accessing Elemenal? I can't quite tell from his response.
14:38.39Illam_AuccuarBTW, if You have tried this Alignment test, what alignment did You get? - http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20001222b
14:38.41WormyNor can I reaslly?  But he said he likes my ideas
14:38.48Wormytheories
14:39.01GhelaeYou know, I think I'll just ask him for clarification. :P
14:39.01Um2k9I got True Neutral
14:39.04WormyI have, I'm neutral
14:39.32Irskaad[[Fiction:Tyrek Empire]] Have I explained enhough to avoid further conflict?
14:39.32morgothBotPyIrskaad meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tyrek_Empire
14:39.34Um2k9Xho was Choatic Evil!
14:39.39Illam_AuccuarI got Chaotic Evil, which is somewhat Ironic, because that isn't what I would actually get TBH, because I was messing around, and try and "act like an XR"
14:40.05WormyAs being neutral I'm also aligned with myself.  If its benetos I can be evil too
14:40.21Um2k9Same with me.
14:40.42Um2k9My friends think I want to take over the world.
14:40.47Illam_AuccuarBTW, Who wants to be a Gropaga?
14:41.09IrskaadAnyone answer my question, please?
14:41.14Um2k9I am a Libertus...
14:41.17Illam_AuccuarWhat question?
14:41.31Irskaad[[Fiction:Tyrek Empire]] Have I explained enhough to avoid further conflict?
14:41.32morgothBotPyIrskaad meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tyrek_Empire
14:41.54WormyI take many forms.  A wikigryphon, God Emperor of Grimbolsaurians, Viking warrior
14:42.05Um2k9What does Wormulus think of Apollo?
14:42.15WormyHard question!
14:43.00Um2k9I can be a messenger and freak people out with apocalyptic visions of the future?
14:43.10WormyI/He thinks he is a strong leader, but the URC is perhaps to relaxed being democratic
14:43.14Um2k9I can be a messenger and freak people out with apocalyptic visions of the future?
14:43.23WormySuppose
14:43.31WormyPerhaps one contacted the Mayans
14:43.46Illam_AuccuarI am an XR wearing two hats, one is a jejecap (rainbow stripes) and one is an ordinary black hat, and I follow Inglip lol.
14:44.02WormyWhat is Inglip?
14:44.14Illam_AuccuarAs I said before...
14:44.22Illam_Auccuarhttp://knowyourmeme.com/memes/inglip
14:44.30Illam_Auccuarhttp://inglipnomicon.wikia.com/wiki/Inglipnomicon_Wiki
14:44.43WormyJust a net meme subculture then
14:44.57Illam_AuccuarI know.
14:45.12WormyI follow myself
14:46.19WormyI don't like the idea of being ruled over by anyone too much, such as facists who think they are powerful, and gods
14:46.36Illam_AuccuarAnyways, what else?
14:47.16Illam_AuccuarBTW, I just drew an XR this night, on a paper, with a pencil.
14:47.25IrskaadCool.
14:47.28IrskaadCan we see?
14:47.45Illam_AuccuarIf I can get a picture of it on My computer, I can show You.
14:47.55Illam_AuccuarSadly I couldn't... -_-
14:48.49Illam_AuccuarI am listening to some music today.
14:49.43Illam_AuccuarBTW, What else?
14:50.04Illam_AuccuarTBH I won't really be Chaotic Evil, but on the Alignment Test, I just went too much XR on it.
14:50.06WormyI haven't got much else to say
14:50.12Illam_AuccuarAnd got Chaotic Evil.
14:51.25IrskaadI assume everything's ok Tyrek-wise?
14:51.43Illam_AuccuarI don't know.
14:52.12GhelaePretty much, yeah.
14:52.26IrskaadCool, thanks. Seen the whole page?
14:52.36GhelaeYes.
14:52.43IrskaadOk, thank you.
14:52.57IrskaadWormy, is everything ok in your opinion?
14:53.07Illam_AuccuarGoodbye to Kraw, temporarily... -_-
14:53.12Illam_AuccuarAnd Tahar.
14:53.18IrskaadIndeed.
14:53.36GhelaeThere are a few issues with unrealistic technology, but that's all, and it doesn't effect any of the rest of the fiction. Do you want to know what those are?
14:53.49IrskaadOk.
14:53.58Irskaad(Time to retcon...)
14:54.48Illam_AuccuarLemme' see, what are the issues.
14:54.53WormyIts looks better now the pop is an estimation
14:55.18GhelaeThe main ones are the Red Giant Generator - although the idea's fine, you'd have to remove a lot of hydrogen for it to work, and I'm not sure what you'd do with all of it - and...
14:55.41IrskaadEnergy or water.
14:56.39WormyThe Red Giant generator wouldn't really work, even if black holes were consuming a red giant it wouild take a long time to eat it away
14:56.47WormyBut
14:56.49Ghelae...the Morpher - it would work... over the course of a few years. DNA just codes proteins; so changing the DNA isn't going to change the species at any reasonable rate.
14:57.11WormyMirrors and "shade" tech could simulate the efffects
14:57.37IrskaadOk, Removing the morpher and replacing the RGG with a Sun buster.
14:57.59Illam_AuccuarHow do they pwn Suns?
14:58.01Illam_Auccuarnow?
14:58.19WormyCovering the star so light doesn't reach its planet.  Even a 30% reduction in light = mass extinction
14:58.31IrskaadOk, what could do that?
14:59.06WormyWell, there is the DCP Q-ball forges, which can "kill" a star over a a time period
14:59.17WormyBut I want that to stay unique
14:59.27WormyTo the DCP
14:59.32Illam_AuccuarYeah, originally is better than using the same thing.
14:59.35IrskaadI'll just go with a Sun buster, if that's possible, do you agree?
14:59.45Illam_AuccuarAnd how does it work?
15:00.05WormyDestablising the star is so difficult.  A star is a sphere, a smple yet STRONG structure
15:00.19IrskaadOk, so i'm deleting that.
15:00.21Illam_AuccuarI see.
15:00.32WormyOnly very unstable stars would be destroyed more easily
15:00.58WormyPerhaps immense gravitational waves (beyond their technology however) could cause disruption
15:01.17GhelaeGirdo/Tokzhalan Sun Busters use overpowered shields to go towards the centre of the star and then use a stupid quantity of antimatter to make it a bit less stable. That might not work, but nobody's complained about it so far. :P
15:01.21IrskaadWell, deleted 2 weapons, anything else needing fixing?
15:01.34GhelaeNo, I think that's everything.
15:01.41Wormy@IrskIt could be replaced by shade technology
15:01.44IrskaadCool. So everything's done?
15:01.48IrskaadWhat's that?
15:02.26WormyBy using clusters of satellites to block light from the star.  As I said, even 30% reduction of light might cause major climatic effects
15:02.42Wormyand consequences for lkife and a colony
15:03.06IrskaadAdding that.
15:04.36IrskaadDone.
15:05.01Illam_Auccuarhttp://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/094/657/original/1295725299521.png?1295727526
15:05.07Illam_Auccuarhttp://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/094/658/original/681px-Dysoneducation.jpg?1295727562
15:05.19Illam_Auccuarhttp://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/094/656/original/1295725366197.jpg?1295727502
15:05.35Illam_AuccuarDo those work? Wormulon?
15:06.37Illam_Auccuarhttp://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/093/832/original/Untitled.png?1295302797
15:06.40Illam_AuccuarAnd that one?
15:06.46Illam_AuccuarHow to make them work?
15:07.29Illam_Auccuarhttp://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/088/954/original/tollphysicsinception.JPG?1292780242
15:07.37Illam_Auccuarhttp://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/088/980/original/Capture.PNG?1292787301
15:07.47Illam_AuccuarGuys? Anyone?
15:08.03IrskaadAsk Wormy.
15:08.17Illam_AuccuarWormulon?
15:08.33WormyNo, its called trollscience
15:08.43WormyOr trollphysics
15:09.00Illam_AuccuarYes, I know.
15:09.03Illam_AuccuarLol.
15:09.14IrskaadDo they work, wormy?
15:09.23WormySome of it is correct, but there is always an incorrect factor.  They are desifned in a humourous manner.  Sporesauce95 showed me it
15:09.35Illam_AuccuarYeah.
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15:12.38GhelaeHi!
15:12.49The_RandomnessHello mortals.
15:12.54Illam_AuccuarBTW, its so late night at My place that I gotta' go now, bye guts.
15:12.55Illam_Auccuarguys*
15:13.16The_RandomnessI'm guessing that was R17.
15:13.29Wormyhello
15:13.30GhelaeYou guess correctly.
15:13.47Irskaadhttp://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Fiction:Tyrek_Empire&curid=116078&diff=348876&oldid=348633 How much I retconned them
15:14.55The_RandomnessThat's not really retconning, judging from the changes you made.
15:15.10IrskaadBut is everything ok, now?
15:15.18The_RandomnessNo.
15:15.29WormyAnother thought.  They could also focus instense star light (such as UV) causing a planets ozone or or similar layer to burn away
15:15.33IrskaadWhy?
15:15.54The_RandomnessThe ridiculously high population bothers me.
15:16.04Wormy@Random:You do know they come from another universe?
15:16.08The_RandomnessIt still bothers me.
15:16.12The_RandomnessNo.
15:16.50WormyI'm making some major edits to the Gigaquadrant page
15:17.02The_RandomnessI saw.
15:17.11GhelaeMuch of that population comes from clones, which are a reuslt of that "Guide to Galactic Expansion", which they stuck to for much of their history. Now they've mostly moved to automation, so the population isn't increasing much any more.
15:17.19GhelaeAt least, that's what I got from what Irskaad told me.
15:17.20WormyTwo things bother me 1) the idea of other gigaquadrants
15:17.40Wormy2) the unecessary size 100 billion square light years?
15:17.45The_RandomnessWhy do we need more than two gigaquadrants?
15:17.50Wormyno
15:18.01GhelaeOther Gigaquadrants would be known about for a short while, then as soon as there's regular communications between the two of them, they'd technically merge into one.
15:18.17WormyAnd whats more, wht would other regions of the universe have the same classification if they are out of contact?
15:18.32Wormy@Ghelae:thats what I think
15:18.43GhelaeThe size... presumably, MushrumKing just doesn't understand the size of the universe.
15:19.02The_RandomnessNobody understands the size of the universe!
15:19.05IrskaadSo, everything ok with the Tyrekians now?
15:19.20WormyI think its part (astrophysically) to the Local Supercluster, about 10 to 100 million light years in widyh
15:19.36GhelaeOn the classification: well, most other civilisations wouldn't think of them as being Gigaquadrants, or even anything worth classifying, but they'd still count as Gigaquadrants in the SSA classification system.
15:19.38WormyBut the political First Gigaquadrant is a fraction of that
15:19.44The_RandomnessMake it 11.9 trillion and that would be fine.
15:20.09IrskaadThey would be actually Underpopulated.
15:20.16WormySimply the politically connected galaxies in the supercluster
15:20.20The_RandomnessUgh.
15:20.41The_RandomnessHow many colonies do they have?
15:20.43WormyYou know there is probably far less vertebrates on the Earth
15:20.46Irskaad20600.
15:21.11The_RandomnessThen 11.9 trillion is more than enough.
15:21.36The_RandomnessWormulon, you covered this yesterday.
15:21.41IrskaadHonestly, I am so close to deleting the Tyrekians from the Fiction Universe...
15:21.43WormyAnd thats Fish, Amphibians, Reptiles, Birds, Mammals and other smallerclass systems
15:23.07The_RandomnessThe only thing I'm suggesting right now is that you reduce the population.
15:23.32The_RandomnessI'm not trying to get rid of them.
15:23.49IrskaadI'm going to delete the Tyrekians and make absolutely new fiction.
15:23.53Ghelae11.9 trillion total is approximately 577 million per planet. To be fair, even with excessive cloning, that would probably be enough. Natural population growth on Earth over the last couple of hunded years has been mostly down to a lack of effective contraception, after all. You're not going to need that many clones to support anything other than a really big colony.
15:24.02Ghelae...Why are you going to delete them?
15:24.09The_Randomness^
15:24.32IrskaadBecause there's too much criticism on them. They are a failure. I'm going to delete them. End of.
15:24.55The_RandomnessCriticism does not indicate bad fiction.
15:24.57GhelaeThe only criticism's about the population. Is the population so important to you?
15:25.29IrskaadIt's not that. I absolutely suck at Tier 2s.
15:25.36GhelaeNo, you don't.
15:25.46GhelaeLike I just said, the population's the only thing that anybody has any problem with.
15:25.49IrskaadBut I've made my mind, and I'm not turning back.
15:25.58GhelaeWhy not?
15:27.03IrskaadI'm just going to start with a fresh new idea, another Tier 2 Empire, one that's actually any good.
15:27.23GhelaeThat won't help.
15:27.27IrskaadIt will still be in the Tymoro Galaxy.
15:27.40GhelaeWhat will make it better than the Tyrekians, when the Tyrekians only have one problem in the first place?
15:28.14IrskaadI'm just so depressed right now...
15:28.46GhelaeThen you shouldn't be doing all this. You should leave SporeWiki for a few hours and come back later on when you're in a better emotional state.
15:29.08IrskaadOk. Bye.
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15:29.34GhelaeHi!
15:29.58XhoI heard that Irsk was getting criticism for the Tyrekians.
15:30.15The_RandomnessYes, just about one thing.
15:30.27XhoSuch as?
15:30.55The_RandomnessPopulation
15:30.59XhoIs that it?
15:31.01GhelaeHe just said he was depressed, so I told him to leave SporeWiki for a few hours and come back later when he was feeling better. You just missed him by about ten seconds.
15:31.04XhoPopulation
15:31.10XhoC'mon
15:31.29The_RandomnessYes, that's just it.
15:32.09XhoWhy couldn't Irsk just increase the colony size
15:32.46Wormyhi
15:32.48The_RandomnessI don't get what people don't like about constructive criticism.
15:33.22The_RandomnessThey seem to be afraid of anything that looks like "no".
15:34.12XhoHe could have just asked us for help
15:34.18WormyI tthink it would be fair for Irsk to listen to it
15:34.35WormyThis is a collaborativve universe after all
15:34.57The_RandomnessI probably snapped him out of his mostly criticism free world.
15:35.15The_RandomnessYes, he should've listened.
15:35.50The_RandomnessI felt like I was arguing with a wall.
15:36.15GhelaeI repeat: He just said he was depressed, so I told him to leave SporeWiki for a few hours and come back later when he was feeling better.
15:36.16WormyWhen I've had "discussion" with him is the same thing I get
15:36.21GhelaeWe'll see how he is later on.
15:36.27GhelaeAlthough, he does seem to be like that quite a lot...
15:36.35XhoI'm talking to him now on MSN
15:36.48XhoHe seems to refuse my help to improve the fiction
15:37.12WormyI want to reduce the DCP's pop but I feel too much peer pressure
15:37.24GhelaePeer pressure? How so?
15:37.24WormyI could get overun by some new empire
15:37.42WormyI could have low tier civs having greater populatons
15:37.53GhelaeWhy should population make any difference for a Tier 1 race?
15:37.59The_Randomness^
15:37.59WormyAnd that makes the DCP seem weak
15:38.07The_RandomnessBah.
15:38.08GhelaeThink about my Tokzhalan Empire. It's Tier 2, and controls 100,800 systems.
15:38.32GhelaeIt also has a population of less than 2.5 billion in total, and it definitely isn't weak.
15:38.40WormyThe problem is not that I think that, but it makes other users do
15:38.42XhoOh
15:38.51XhoLooks like Irsk wants my help now
15:39.33WormyPerhaps 2.5 trillionis a good  uumber considering all DCP members
15:39.55The_RandomnessThe Salsetthe Republic has a population of about 420 billion.
15:39.56GhelaeTalking of the Tokzhalan Empire... Wormy, how many Gargantuan-class ships would the DCP have sent for the invasion of the Tokzhalan Galaxies? I'm trying to write a bit more of Truly Alien now, so I need to get an idea as to how many of them there would be in the battle in total for the bit that I'm writing.
15:40.05The_RandomnessI might change it around though.
15:40.11XhoHmmm
15:40.18WormyProbably only one to three
15:40.18XhoI have a vote
15:40.32GhelaeOnly three Gargantuans? Okay.
15:40.36WormyOnly?
15:40.38XhoShould the Tyrekian colony size expand to avoid massive populations on colonies?
15:40.56WormyOne can crush an entire Grox sector pretty quickly
15:41.09GhelaeYeah, I know. :P
15:41.48Wormylol
15:42.11The_RandomnessNo, I think 20,600 is plenty.
15:42.20XhoHmmm...
15:42.38The_Randomness23.8 trillion is excessive at almost any size.
15:42.53GhelaeWhy does he want that specific number to be the Tyrekians' population?
15:42.59XhoBut
15:43.01XhoOne thing
15:43.09XhoThe Tyrekians are from another universe.
15:43.17The_RandomnessAnd?
15:43.26XhoExample
15:43.28XhoShka'Tun
15:43.35XhoFrom another universe
15:43.55XhoMassive population
15:44.14The_RandomnessStill, that's a lousy reason to try and explain away that number.
15:44.15GhelaeBut what is their population per planet? And also, how long have they been around?
15:44.26XhoMeh
15:46.05GhelaeWell, he's restored the Tyrek Empire page now, so I guess he must have decided not to delete them after all.
15:46.41XhoYeah
15:46.50XhoI'm discussing on how to improve it.
15:47.39XhoWe tried expanding their history a few thousand more years
15:47.45XhoDecreasing population
15:47.50XhoIncreasing colony size
15:48.08The_RandomnessI must be going.
15:48.12The_RandomnessBye guys.
15:48.18The_Randomness~vanish
15:48.19infobotACTION poofs
15:50.16XhoMe and Irsk are going towards increasing colony amount
15:52.03GhelaeThey're over 900 years old, right? If so, and if they're really dedicated to galactic domination, then I don't see why they shouldn't have made more colonies.
15:52.52XhoAccording to Irsk they're not essentially warriors.
15:53.27GhelaeWell, domination by colonisation, not by conquest.
15:55.08XhoHe said he'll retcon into making the Tyrek Galaxy bigger.
15:55.26GhelaeWhy would he need to do that?
15:55.39GhelaeGalaxies are really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, big.
15:56.00WormyMilky Way could have over 400 billion stars
15:56.06GhelaeA small galaxy would have... let me work it out...
15:56.18WormyA good few million
15:56.22XhoOh
15:56.38XhoHe wants to make the Galaxy AND the Empire bigger
15:56.48XhoThat kinda works
15:56.49GhelaeA small *large* galaxy (not an irregular) could easily have a billion potentially habitable systems.
15:58.12GhelaeThat's if only one in a hundred systems could be colonised. So only in the "galactic habitable zone", and (I think) excluding red dwarfs.
16:01.11XhoOh I see
16:01.19XhoThe Tyrek Galaxy is immensely small
16:01.25Xho500,000 stars ish
16:01.42GhelaeThen yes, he needs to make it bigger.
16:02.01XhoOk
16:02.45XhoSo size expansion is now about 62,000
16:02.58XhoKeeping the same population
16:03.15GhelaeIt sounds like the Tyrek Galaxy is based on the Spore Galaxy, which is incredibly sparse compared to real galaxies. In my "Imperial Universe" fiction, most of the hundred billion total stars of the Spore Galaxy (and most of the Girdo Galaxy in the main SporeWikiverse) are brown dwarfs, which is probably quite unrealistic.
16:03.30XhoWell
16:03.39XhoSo
16:07.11Xho383 million on average a colony now
16:07.37GhelaeYeah, that sounds fine.
16:11.28GhelaeWormy, how much damage will you allow me to deal to those Gargantuans?
16:12.00WormyWell, probably onky three have ever been destroyed
16:12.07WormyOne by the Emperor
16:12.20WormyThe next two possibly by Xhodocto
16:12.35GhelaeI only knew about the first of those. I guess you need to update the DCP Battlefleet page. :D
16:12.46Wormyyep!  ongoing process
16:12.54XhoHeheh
16:12.56XhoXhodocto
16:12.59XhoTroll all
16:13.05WormyWell, thgey have a huge range of shielding
16:13.34GhelaeMy idea was that one could be destroyed in the Battle of Dreykzin, since the Tokzhalan Motherships (although no other ships) have spacetime weaponry and defences as a result of Project Timeship.
16:14.05WormyIf they can take out the graviton spheres and domain walls
16:14.15Wormywith certain weaponry (not sure what)
16:14.53WormyThey they have a chance of taking one on.  Gargantuans can ghost phase (but remember the Grox can help by phasing into the DCP's phase)
16:15.27WormyOther shielding would be shields, adaptive neutronium armour and magmatter
16:15.48WormyAs well as nanotech that quickly reseals hull fissures
16:16.44WormyBut Timeship does have a wild mixtre of gathered technologies.  Probably Dalek and First One tech (like they took a stargate)
16:16.50GhelaeWell, the Gargantuan would be doing battle with two or three Motherships, with both sides trying to beat each other's spacetime manipulations. Then, one of the Motherships would beam antimatter missiles (probably Planet Buster sized) inside the Gargantuan - remember, shield-ignoring Dalek transmat technology - destroying it from the inside.
16:18.18GhelaeThe other Gargantuans might learn to ghost phase in future, and then only the Grox would be able to deal damage to them then, and there aren't any Grox ships in the galaxy that are big enough to destroy them.
16:18.49WormyI imagine the energy released by its destruction would possibly destroy the motherships too
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16:19.04IrskaadHello.
16:19.45GhelaeThey have good shields and fast engines, and there'd be operating at quite a distance - probably a good few thousand kilometres - but they'd probably sustain quite a bit of damage, yes. Perhaps enough for a Girdo Imperium-class ship to come along and destroy one of them.
16:19.50GhelaeHi, Irskaad!
16:19.54IrskaadHello.
16:19.55WormyIn order to power its advanced tech it would need quantum field (exotic matter) generation, perhaps even powered by singularities
16:21.04WormyThey are sttabalized and fed to prevent hawking radiation from annihlating the black holes.  Without such a containment they would evaporate fast with a bang
16:21.04GhelaeThe Motherships? The singularity generation came with the rest of Project Timeship, and they could probably make exotic matter with quantum replicators with relative ease.
16:21.53GhelaeNot too much ease, though, but that's why they're only able to have working spacetime manipulation on the Motherships.
16:23.44WormyThe DCP remember love destruction (literally).  Even if the battle was disrupted, the Gargantuan might start firing star busters and other superweapons even at close range
16:25.14GhelaeI'm pretty sure the Gargantuans are already using Planet Busters against Tokzhalan Warships. :P
16:25.50Wormylol
16:26.05GhelaeThe Motherships will be manipulating spacetime to deflect most of the Gargantuan's projectiles, and they also have their own point-defence weaponry as well.
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16:26.35dino___hellow
16:26.37GhelaeHello!
16:26.38WormySince the Motherships have plenty of Tier 1 tech at their disposal, I'm fine with one being destroyed
16:27.00dino___nice update on the Truly Alien Ghelae, can't wait for more
16:27.02GhelaeOkay. And I promise I won't break any of the others too badly. :D
16:27.32GhelaeI'm still writing more now. That's what this discussion's been about - Tokzhalan Motherships versus DCP Gargantuan.
16:27.43XhoThis is what I don't get
16:27.45dino___ah ok
16:27.56XhoSome empires are Tier 1
16:28.14XhoTheir weaponry acts like Tier 3/4
16:29.21GhelaeWhat do you mean? Well, I think I get what you mean, but... can you give us an example?
16:30.06WormyI kind of do
16:30.17Wormyier 1  tech is supposed to be very different
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16:30.59GhelaeDino, how is your fantasyverse fiction coming along?
16:31.04GhelaeHi!
16:31.11Creatureboy11Hi. (:
16:31.31Creatureboy11I'll be on my channel as usual. :P
16:31.32IrskaadHi!
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16:31.39WormyLike the Chaos Wand http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/491b0bfd2a85b
16:31.53XhoWow
16:32.02XhoXhodocto have that hanging over their beds
16:33.01dino___Re: Ghelae: I have recenlty constructed the walls and gate, though for the rest I am still working on it, have to make a suitable home city and perhaps a settlement
16:33.19GhelaeOkay.
16:33.23dino___then I still have to create the ordinary citizens of the Nother Regoins (elves, and perhaps one or two animals)
16:33.27dino___and various characters
16:33.41dino___and you?
16:34.03GhelaeActually, I think mine's almost done now.
16:34.27GhelaeSince I've only had to add a few tribal huts and some ruins, I haven't had much work to do. :D
16:34.36dino___ah ok
16:34.40dino___are you going to upload it?
16:34.56GhelaeSoon, maybe. But I am experimenting with a few things now.
16:35.14GhelaeLike magically-animated crossbows. Just because. :P
16:35.45GhelaeAs a defence system, of course.
16:35.46dino___ah ok
16:36.56GhelaeI've also thought a bit more about backstory. The elven race that my character comes from would have been recently destroyed in a war, presumably with whatever orc-equivalent race we end up having.
16:37.11dino___oh interessting
16:37.29dino___I was planning on bringing a treat to the Nother regions, as they  mostly lived isolated from the rest, though they did have trade etc.
16:38.05dino___With a noble king and warrior and a female archer/warrior/princess or something like that, plus a guard and citizens I have to still create but I am still designing them
16:38.08dino___how far is Imperios>
16:38.39GhelaeI don't know how much Imperios has done, although he's made a lot of creatures, and a few vehicles and buildings.
16:39.41dino___oh nice, I think he wanted us to create our own regions right? Or shoudl we also include his creatures in the regions?
16:39.45GhelaeBeing an underground place, it would be quite difficult to make a template of the Klaxxa's city in the adventure creator unless he pretends that the sky is a rocky ceiling.
16:40.19dino___hmm, that could be yes
16:40.20GhelaeWe can probably include his creatures if we want, or we can make regional variations of our own.
16:40.57dino___have to go
16:41.00dino___have dinier
16:41.03GhelaeOkay. Bye!
16:41.09Wormybye
16:41.14dino___see ya
16:46.06RawrsauceI g2g to guys
16:46.17IrskaadBye.
16:46.19Rawrsaucebye
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16:47.09XhoWow
16:47.13XhoThat's all he's said
16:47.23XhoGoodbye
16:47.29XhoWhat the hell
16:48.33IrskaadJoseph failed to understand Dark tongue.
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16:50.11GhelaeHello!
16:50.18IrskaadHello!
16:50.48XhoOh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
16:51.42OluapPlayerHi
17:01.09IrskaadSo, how's everyone?
17:01.41OluapPlayerBored
17:02.02IrskaadWant to roleplay anything, Oluap? =D
17:02.26OluapPlayerI don't know, I'm out of ideas right now
17:02.43Wormyhello OP
17:02.55WormyI have an idea for the Realms on SporeWiki
17:02.56OluapPlayerHi Wormy
17:03.00IrskaadHow about the Iteok's rivals, the Tahars, meet the Dracs?
17:03.23OluapPlayerAlright
17:03.26WormyInstead of being physical spaces, they are internal and external "planes" of consciousness and perception
17:03.41Irskaad#rpzone ?
17:04.05OluapPlayerWill that make any difference?
17:04.23WormyThey can be contaced by meditation/energy and be telepathically connected or can be visted in astroprojection
17:04.52OluapPlayerWell, that ruins the Realm of Dreams almost entirely
17:04.53WormyIts just a description on what they are
17:04.57Wormynope
17:05.03WormyThey still exist
17:05.20OluapPlayerIt's supposed to be hard as nails to enter the RoD
17:05.29WormyBut it depends on the perception/energy channeling of the individual
17:05.56WormyThey can manifest themselves in accordance to the right path
17:06.15WormyI tend to think of cyberspace as a plane
17:06.15OluapPlayerI'll have to rework it entirely then
17:06.26WormyWhy?  It doesn't change it
17:06.37OluapPlayerThat makes too easy to enter or leave it
17:06.46GhelaeThe Realm of Dreams could have features that essentially act as psychic barriers, which would prevent a being from entering or leaving it.
17:07.23GhelaeCarmetego would have complete control over these barriers, hence even other supernatural beings would find it difficult to bypass them.
17:07.33WormyWell in cyberspace, we intergrate our senses (mainly touch and sight) and motor funcrtion in order to communicate extremely quickly
17:08.09WormyIn other planes, like Nether-plane, one can contact it as an interalk plane of consciousness
17:08.35WormyWhich in turn changes the life of an individual and projects into the outer physical world
17:10.02OluapPlayerAs long as the Realm remains very hard to enter/leave it's ok to me
17:11.40WormyI think they are indeed
17:12.42OluapPlayerIt's supposed to be hard enough to trap Shu'ulathoi in there for billions of years
17:13.19WormyDon't worry, I dounbt it would be affected
17:14.02GhelaeLike I said, psychic barriers. Yes, they should even be able to block Entropic Energy.
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17:16.10CatfaceHello
17:16.28OluapPlayerHi
17:16.48Wormyhi
17:17.23IrskaadHello, ecaftaC.
17:19.06CatfaceI went ice skating yesterday. The skate cut into my ankle and I fell down ten times.
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17:35.02GhelaeHi!
17:35.21IrskaadHello.
17:35.27OluapPlayerHi
17:35.42Wormyhi again
17:38.13dino___hello
17:38.20dino___so anything missed?
17:39.05GhelaeWormy and Oluap had a little discussion on the nature of Realms, and that's it.
17:39.10dino___ah ok
17:39.17dino___about the Realms of the Gods?
17:39.23GhelaeYes.
17:39.35GhelaeIncluding things like the Realm of Dreams as well.
17:39.43Irskaad~INFOBOT
17:39.43infobotrumour has it, infobot is in need of training, can someone train me?
17:39.56Ghelae~sit
17:39.56infobotACTION sits
17:40.00Ghelae~good girl
17:40.00infobotGhelae: aw, gee
17:40.42dino___ah ok, and what's the conslusion of that little discussion?
17:40.49dino___~ hello infobot
17:40.49infobotACTION stands up and shouts "HELLO infobot!"
17:41.25dino___oh will be readig the new update on the Alien Truly
17:41.34dino___I mean tTruly Alien story part 14
17:43.04GhelaeWormulon was just saying that Realms, rather than being physical places, are - in his words - 'internal and external "planes" of consciousness and perception. They can be contacted by meditation/energy and be telepathically connected or can be visited in astroprojection".
17:43.28dino___oh interessting, it seems the Garguntam Class can be stoped
17:43.46dino___this news will attract many ones attention, and I believe even from there own allies
17:44.58dino___I agree with that, thoughthe Rambo Realms can be visited, and the Ultimate One is a true deity only when he allows it can people enter his realms. So I guess it is then an external plane of perception if I am correct then?
17:46.44dino___but Ghelae, if I am corrrect the race or villages you have created for Koldenwelt project are then extint?
17:46.48dino___or totally destroyed?
17:46.57GhelaeI'm not sure. You'd have to ask Wormy about that. But the Realm of Dreams is also supposed to be impossible to enter, so I came up with the idea that something like a psychic barrier could be in place, controlled by an entity (the Ultimate One for the Rambo Realms, Carmetago for the Realm of Dreams, etc), which could prevent anything from entering or leaving them.
17:47.13GhelaeThe race is apparently extinct except for one survivor.
17:47.20dino___ah ok, that makes things clear
17:47.25dino___oh there is one survivor
17:47.32dino___and they are destroyed by somesort of orc then?
17:47.46GhelaeProbably. We'll have to see what races other people make.
17:47.49dino___Perhaps the Nothern Region is then one of the last remaining kingdoms of old
17:48.23GhelaeQuite likely. Or maybe it's a new kingdom, which has appeared recently and will start a new age for Koldenwelt.
17:49.08GhelaeWhich reminds me - I had an idea as to what we should do with the fantasyverse. Perhaps we should use it as a background to make a story, much like The Lord of the Rings (although the stories themselves would not be too similar, of course).
17:50.20OluapPlayerBack
17:50.44GhelaeWelcome back.
17:51.08IrskaadHello.
17:51.41dino___indeed, the planet needs a backstory before the current events are going to be explained
17:52.02dino___perhaps it can highlight what happened to the persons of the last survivor you are about to create
17:52.09dino___hello irskaad, ho ware you doing
17:52.31GhelaeThe backstory we have so far... have I told you about the backstory I made from the [[Treasured Items]]?
17:52.31morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Treasured_Items
17:53.01OluapPlayerHave you people seen the page I made some hours ago?
17:53.16GhelaeWhich page was that?
17:53.42OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Bonio
17:54.31dino___no not yet, though Imperios did mention it since you were sitll working on it
17:55.00dino___nice and interessting birdies Oluapplayer
17:55.08OluapPlayerIt's just one
17:55.17OluapPlayerBonio is a single character
17:55.21GhelaeWell, this backstory is basically just the beliefs of the now-extinct elven race, but it might still be the truth.
17:55.39GhelaeFirst of all, the Screebles were the first sapient species on the planet.
17:55.40OluapPlayerErrr's nemesis and an important character in future events
17:56.22GhelaeThey created many ancient artefacts, most of which were collected by the Archipelago elves and are still stored in the Archipelago. Little more is known about them.
17:56.26dino___oh ok
17:56.50dino___and the Archipelago are Elves Imperios is going to make?>
17:57.26GhelaeNo, the Archipelago is the region I made. "Archipelago elves" are the now-extinct elves that came from the Archipelago.
17:57.37GhelaeSo, my extinct race.
17:58.05GhelaeDuring the time of the Screebles, the gnome-like humanoids that are the ancestors of all humanoid races on the planet appeared. This may have been tens of thousands of years ago.
17:59.07dino___ah ok, makes sense.
17:59.15dino___Wonder when Imperios will go update it then
17:59.16GhelaeIn the intervening millennia, hundreds of civilisations have risen and fell. Several religious organisations came to the Archipelago for some mysterious reason, and the ruins of their temples are the only traces of their races that remain.
17:59.32dino___oh interessting
17:59.35GhelaeWe should probably ask him if we can edit the page ourselves.
18:00.18GhelaeNobody is quite sure why so many races built their temples in the Archipelago, but some believe that a nexus of the Source lies under the sea floor.
18:01.44GhelaeI think that's all I've come up with so far.
18:02.19GhelaeOh, and there's also that elf-orc war that resulted in "Arbor Vitae" being the last of her kind.
18:02.30dino___ah ok, does tha tmean outsiders of the planet visited the planet too?
18:02.34IrskaadSource of what?
18:02.38dino___Arbor Vitae, great name
18:02.45dino___did you already made him/her
18:03.20Ghelae[[The Source]]. It's the god worshipped in Civilisation Stage, and it's believed by the Archipelago elves to be an entity/life-force of omnipotent supernatural powers.
18:03.20morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/The_Source
18:03.40GhelaeYes, I've made Arbor Vitae. I've not shared her yet, though.
18:04.11dino___oh ok
18:05.23IrskaadArbor Vitae sounds like Curriculum Vitae for some reason.
18:05.50GhelaeIt means "Tree of Life" in Latin.
18:05.59IrskaadOk.
18:06.16Ghelae"Curriculum Vitae" also comes from Latin, obviously, and also... has something to do with life.
18:06.46IrskaadIt's a form you have to do if you want a job.
18:07.11GhelaeI know. And on it you write about things like work experience you've done in your life.
18:07.18IrskaadYep.
18:07.36GhelaeI'm just having trouble connecting it to "life". Maybe I'll just check Wikipedia to see what it actually means. :P
18:08.17GhelaeAh, "the course of my life". That makes sense.
18:08.35dino___I am going again
18:08.38IrskaadBye.
18:08.40dino___trying to make the elves
18:08.43dino___hopefully
18:08.44dino___haha
18:08.45dino___bye
18:08.48GhelaeOkay. I might be about to share Arbor Vitae soon. Bye!
18:09.01IrskaadIs anyone angry at me because of what happened the last time?
18:09.43Ghelae...What do you mean?
18:09.58IrskaadThat argument with the Tyrekians.
18:10.29IrskaadIs anyone angry at me because of this?
18:10.55OluapPlayerI'm not because I never discussed about it :v
18:11.00Irskaad=P
18:11.09IrskaadYou weren't there, Oluap.
18:12.23GhelaeI don't think anybody's angry, no.
18:12.28IrskaadOk, good.
18:12.45Irskaadhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#A_Transmission... (Guess who's talking... Add ... to the link)
18:12.50GhelaeA couple of people seemed to get the impression that you can't take criticism very well, though.
18:13.12IrskaadI know I can't.
18:13.15Irskaad=(
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18:13.35OluapPlayer_Stupid internet
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18:15.45IrskaadHi Ultan!
18:15.52IrskaadUm2k9*
18:15.55Um2k9shoots Irskaad
18:15.58Irskaad=P
18:15.59Um2k9Hello!
18:16.03IrskaadHello.
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18:16.29Um2k9Great work to the Gigaquadrant page Worm!
18:16.33OluapPlayerHi Um
18:16.33IrskaadSo, how's the URC?
18:17.08Um2k9Hey Oluap, and the URC is currently at war with the Confederacy...
18:17.59IrskaadThat reminds me, can we roleplay a battle for the war so I can write it in the war page?
18:18.17Um2k9Wormy, I was wondering, how did you make this picture on Celestia? http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/3e/Whirlpool_galaxy.png
18:18.37WormyOh I downloaded it off the motherlode
18:18.53Um2k9Sorry Irskaad, I am very busy at the moment, but I would prefer to be surprised by your story!
18:18.56Wormyhttp://www.celestiamotherlode.net/
18:19.02Um2k9And I loved your story Wormy!
18:19.12Wormythanks!
18:19.22IrskaadBut there's one problem, I don't know what the potential of the CAS is...
18:21.16Um2k9Well they have Tier 1 technology, their ships are incredibly powerful and they are commanded by military geniuses.
18:23.49Um2k9Well, I am off to play the Sims!
18:24.00Um2k9If you need to talk, PM me!
18:24.04IrskaadHow would a battle between 10000 CAS Ships, 10000 URC ships, and 12000 Terridorian ships fare out?
18:24.40Um2k9Well, I would prefer realistic fleet sizes for one thing especially so early in the war.
18:24.53IrskaadOk, than what are your totals?
18:24.55Irskaadthen*
18:25.04IrskaadFor fleet sizes?
18:25.27Um2k9Well so early in the war, most battles will involve only a dozen ships.
18:25.38Um2k9Or even less.
18:26.17IrskaadOk, so how would a battle between 12 CAS Ships, 12 URC Ships and 50 Terridorian Ships fare out? (Why so few ships? o_O)
18:26.53Um2k9Because, I would like to keep the war realistic for one! What tier are the Terridorians?
18:27.03IrskaadTier 4.
18:27.31Um2k9Wormy, what do you think?
18:28.18WormyThats sounds good to me
18:28.34WormyOh dear, I'm using massive fleets already =0
18:28.46WormyIn the thousands
18:28.53WormyMind you that will reduce now
18:29.11WormyDCP high tech defenses snipped by Grox forces
18:29.35GhelaeAfter all the wars they've been through, the DCP can't have that many ships left anyway. :P
18:29.35WormyCAS cutting temporarily a Grid network (not for long)
18:29.54WormyI never revela how much they have
18:29.59IrskaadBut how would the battle fare out, Um2k9?
18:32.04IrskaadUm2k9
18:32.06Irskaad?
18:32.47Um2k9Wormy, I actually mean't how do you think the battle would turn out?
18:34.31WormyIf the URC sent their best ships, the CAS half, I think URC would win.  If 50 Terr' ships were trailing behind, they might survive with about 10 or more ships remaining
18:34.47WormyThat is, the reduced fleet
18:35.34IrskaadOk, I'm going to make it now, forgive me if any inaccuracies occur.
18:35.38WormyBut it might be the opposite viser versa (and worst for the Teridorans)
18:36.03WormyIn Star Trek, the Dominion being low Tier 3 almost too out the whole Alpha Quadrant
18:36.11Wormy*took
18:36.14Um2k9I agree with that assessment.
18:36.19Wormybrb
18:37.47IrskaadUm2k9, name a URC Planet.
18:38.10Um2k9Mirianí.
18:39.02IrskaadOk. (Lol, the Terridorians will have trouble pronouncing the "í" as it isn't recognized by their Empire's english books XD)
18:40.30Um2k9Mir-an-yeh
18:41.14IrskaadIt's actually diffrent from what I imagined. I thought it would be "Miranii".
18:41.20IrskaadMirianii*
18:42.29Um2k9In French (The base for Caprican), í is pronounced eh.
18:42.42IrskaadOh, ok.
18:44.00IrskaadHow big are the CAS and URC ships?
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18:45.44Rawrsaucehello.
18:45.44IrskaadUm2k9?
18:45.45IrskaadHello.
18:46.04Rawrsaucewhy'd you say um2k9?
18:46.20IrskaadI was waiting for a response from him to a question I sent him.
18:46.32Rawrsauceoh
18:46.41IrskaadUm2k9
18:46.42Irskaad?
18:47.12Um2k9Yes?
18:47.24IrskaadHow big are the CAS and URC ships?
18:47.51Um2k9You can check out the sizes of the ships on the Republic Navy page and the Confederacy page...
18:48.01IrskaadOh, ok.
18:49.22Um2k9I am playing the Sims, but I will be back later.
18:49.31IrskaadOk.
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19:00.53Um2k9Hello Dinoman82!
19:00.57GhelaeHello!
19:01.18dino_hello
19:01.34dino_Ghelae I  have created the first few Elves of the Nothern Regions for Koldenwelt, an archer and there king
19:01.38dino_Hello Um2k9
19:02.14dino_how are you doing
19:02.16GhelaeI've shared Arbor Vitae, in case you're wondering. The Archipelago is a cluster of islands in the topics, covered in tropical ferns, in case you're wondering about her outfit and body paint.
19:02.20Um2k9Hello! I am playing the Sims at the moment but I will pop in from time to time!
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19:03.34GhelaeConnection troubles?
19:03.40dino___I was logged out and trown away
19:03.51dino___yes
19:03.52Irskaadhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Cyrannus_War/Year_One#Battle_of_Mirian.C3.AD Um2k9, start criticizing my battle, if there's something wrong. =P
19:04.03GhelaeAh, okay. Did you see the things that Um and I said?
19:05.06GhelaeI said: "I've shared Arbor Vitae, in case you're wondering. The Archipelago is a cluster of islands in the topics, covered in tropical ferns, in case you're wondering about her outfit and body paint." Um explained that he's playing The Sims and the moment, but he'll pop in from time to time.
19:05.16Um2k9@Irsk: Great story, I have no complaints!
19:05.25IrskaadWow, thanks.
19:06.07IrskaadIn KUL, Mirianí would be spelled "Mirianyh".
19:06.11GhelaeAlso, I've R+'d your two new elves.
19:06.19IrskaadR+'d?
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19:06.36dino____last try of me, I have connection issues it seems
19:07.09Ghelae"R+'d" means "rated up", as in "pressed the little thumbs-up button on its Sporepedia card".
19:07.33GhelaeAnd it seems that Dinoman really is having connection troubles.
19:07.35IrskaadOk. I don't have sporepedia. My key is messed up.
19:07.47GhelaeOh, okay.
19:08.45Irskaadhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#A_Transmission... PS: Has anyone seen this? (Add ... to the link)
19:09.13GhelaeI would add, but I can't think of what to put.
19:09.51IrskaadHe asked "How's this Universe going?"
19:10.21GhelaeThat's probably quite a complicated issue.
19:10.33Wormyback
19:10.38IrskaadHi Wormy.
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19:11.59GhelaeI'm honestly not sure which Dino was which any more...
19:12.00GhelaeHi!
19:12.02Cb11H3||0.
19:12.06IrskaadHello!
19:13.08Cb11|*|| |3e 0|\| |\/|y C|-|/-\nne|
19:13.14Cb11(I'll be on my channel)
19:13.27IrskaadOk.
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19:18.25Um2k9Bye everyone!
19:18.35IrskaadBye.
19:23.17Rawrsauceso...
19:23.32GhelaeYes...?
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19:46.08Wormyhi
19:46.41ImperiosHi.
19:47.02IrskaadHi, Imperios!
19:48.29WormyYou like my new screenie?
19:48.32Wormyhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Hyperspace_battle.png
19:48.44IrskaadCool.
19:49.10WormyIt is between two subspace layers and realspace (the stars at the back of the image are realspace)
19:52.35ImperiosYeah. Weird thing.
19:53.04IrskaadWoah.
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19:54.42The_RandomnessHello mortals.
19:58.05The_RandomnessAre any of you even there?
19:58.10Wormyhi
19:58.26WormyI'm still busy editing
19:58.30The_RandomnessI saw.
20:04.17ImperiosAnybody of you want to participate in Fantasy Universe?
20:04.30The_RandomnessI'm not interested.
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20:10.55GhelaeHi!
20:11.02ImperiosHi Ghe
20:11.08GhelaeHello!
20:11.12Imperios!
20:11.31GhelaeI've shared Arbor Vitae, the last of the elves of the Archipelago.
20:11.50GhelaeAnd Dinoman82 has also made quite a few creations for his elves, which live in the northern lands.
20:11.51ImperiosHm... And I am remaking the Frikana's PNG
20:13.17GhelaeFrikana?
20:13.34ImperiosWait no
20:13.35ImperiosKlaxxa
20:13.39GhelaeAh, okay.
20:14.00ImperiosFrikana was a similar species before, both frail, with creepy mouths and the same mouth.
20:14.34OluapPlayerHi
20:16.35GhelaeI had a thought about what to do with the fantasyverse - perhaps we should make a story out of it, sort of like The Lord of the Rings (but obviously with a completely different story).
20:17.36GhelaeThe rest of the fantasyverse would be the background for the story, and in-wiki events in faraway lands might affect the story in ways we wouldn't have thought of.
20:20.13ImperiosHm... Nice idea.
20:20.14ImperiosBTW
20:20.43GhelaeAlso, can Dinoman82 and I edit the Koldenwelt page, now that we've come up with a lot of our fiction's background and backstory?
20:20.51ImperiosOf course.
20:20.52ImperiosI've made Klaxxa more serious-looking.
20:21.17GhelaeOkay.
20:24.31ImperiosBTW
20:24.34ImperiosDo you know
20:24.35GhelaeWhat's the Klaxxa's volcanic range called again?
20:25.14ImperiosHm... I've came up with another name, Ar-Klith.
20:25.21GhelaeOkay.
20:25.26IrskaadHello again. It's not dinner time yet, so I'll be going again soon.
20:26.08GhelaeOkay.
20:26.09OluapPlayerHi
20:26.16GhelaeWhat were you going to ask me, Imperios?
20:26.17IrskaadHi, Oluap!
20:27.31ImperiosArdenta is not only Grox galaxy
20:27.45Imperiosit was a home galaxy of Tertamians and Rades.
20:27.56GhelaeYes, I thought so.
20:27.59ImperiosBasically, Ardenta is a galaxy from a
20:28.07ImperiosRussian site Sporepedia.ru
20:28.19Imperiosso we came up that Grox and some of my empires came from this galaxy.
20:31.05GhelaeI'm working on Koldenwelt's geography now. I think we need a name for the main continent, or maybe "Koldenwelt" can be the continent and the planet can have a different name (or maybe also be called "Koldenwelt").
20:32.11ImperiosHm...
20:32.21ImperiosThe Grand Land?
20:32.51GhelaeI don't really think so.
20:32.57GhelaeEspecially not with that rhyming. :P
20:33.26GhelaeI suppose we can call the continent "Koldenwelt"; it will probably have different names in different cultures.
20:33.26OluapPlayerHeh
20:35.13IrskaadDinner, see you soon.
20:35.39GhelaeOkay.
20:49.23IrskaadI am back.
20:52.00OluapPlayerHello
20:57.03IrskaadHello.
21:01.30GhelaeYeah, never mind. :P
21:01.45IrskaadHello.
21:06.32*** join/#sporewiki The_Randomness (~The_Rando@c-75-72-116-108.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
21:07.10The_RandomnessHello people idle or otherwise.
21:08.52The_Randomness~poke Ghelae
21:08.52infobotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Ghelae, pokes Ghelae repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
21:09.46GhelaeHi!
21:09.53Ghelae~shoot The_Randomness
21:09.53infobotACTION shoots The_Randomness in the foot with a quantum singularity weapon!
21:10.34The_RandomnessI see you've made that planet for that project Imperios mentioned.
21:10.55GhelaeI haven't made the planet itself, but I've done some work on the article.
21:11.06The_RandomnessYeah.
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21:12.47The_RandomnessWhat is the planet going to be used for?
21:13.47GhelaeThe fantasy universe. As opposed to the current sci-fi universe that all collabarative fiction currently takes place in.
21:14.34The_RandomnessWhat sort of fantasy?
21:15.38GhelaeAs in, Lord of the Rings style. Well, sort of. Most races would be more like Tribal Stage races, while the Lord of the Rings-type are a few Civilization Stage races.
21:16.03GhelaeWe've only just started the project, so most of the details haven't been sorted out yet.
21:16.40The_RandomnessOk, just make sure you try hard not to make it sound like a bad paperback novel
21:18.43GhelaeI'll try.
21:18.52GhelaeNot that we're going to publish it, anyway.
21:19.38The_RandomnessI know. Just avoid making heroes save beautiful monsters from ravenous princesses.
21:19.59GhelaeOh, that probably won't happen anyway.
21:20.23GhelaeThat "ravenous princess" theme is so cliché...
21:20.41The_RandomnessI know!
21:21.01WormyFew, that was some serious editing!
21:21.43GhelaeSo, is it finally done?
21:22.21Wormyyep
21:22.53WormyIt was fun
21:23.05GhelaeSounds like it...
21:23.27WormyI'm going to make a Political connection map tomorrow
21:23.33WormyIs simple
21:23.51The_RandomnessWhat will it be like?
21:24.26WormyThe locations of galaxies are coloured dots (in the different clusters I mentioned).  Each colour shows how connected the galaxy is in the Quadrant
21:24.36WormyWhite dots = most influential
21:24.44WormyWell you get the idea
21:24.54WormyI will show routes, wormholes etc too
21:25.33WormyThen I'll upload the same base map, but one showing where the DCP colonized it
21:26.20WormyAlso I've decided the DCP has colonies (mostly autonomopus) in the Black Ye galaxy
21:26.28Wormy*Black Eye
21:27.13WormyThe reason why I picked it - its close on galactic terms and not too different from the Spore Galaxy in some ways but darker
21:28.07WormyThe reason why - I lossed my original Spore galaxy last year to a nasty computer virus.  But I simply got anew galaxy, and put the DCP in it
21:28.42WormySo my new galaxy is, I've decided, the Black Eye Galaxy
21:29.06WormyAny ideas for the map?
21:29.46The_RandomnessNone right now.
21:30.04GhelaeWhat sort of ideas do you want?
21:32.34The_Randomness^
21:33.19Wormy@Ghelae:Just suggetsions on what to add to the map
21:33.59The_RandomnessSalsetthe observation posts/centers?
21:34.21WormyI#m focusing less on individual races
21:34.29GhelaeI can't think of anything that you haven't already mentioned.
21:35.02The_RandomnessSame here.
21:35.11WormyWell, I guess I could show constant warzones lik Ottzello
21:35.55GhelaeBut then again, after the Third Ottzello Galactic War, I think that Ottzello isn't going to be at war any more. Then again, that'll probably be quite a while into the future.
21:36.12GhelaePerhaps you should show the influence of organisations like the SSA.
21:36.13WormyBasically a map of stuff that makes the Gigaquadrant, the gigaquadrant
21:36.21WormyThats also what i plan
21:37.08WormyWell like most maps it will have to be updated every once and a while
21:37.11The_RandomnessAnd maybe the influence of some other major powers?
21:37.40WormyI could mention them
21:38.52WormyI might wait for Mush to make his new 3D map
21:40.53The_RandomnessDid you see the little change I made to [[Fiction:Salsetthe Republic/Ship database]]?
21:40.53morgothBotPyThe_Randomness meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Salsetthe_Republic/Ship_database
21:41.31GhelaeAdding point-defence weapons, IIRC.
21:41.38The_RandomnessYes.
21:42.00The_RandomnessWhat does IIRC stand for again?
21:42.00WormyI'll check it out
21:42.07The_Randomness~dict IIRC
21:42.15The_RandomnessAh.
21:43.20The_RandomnessYeah, that's it.
21:43.37The_RandomnessI feel like I should redo the trading ship.
21:43.38The_RandomnessI
21:43.59The_RandomnessI never really was too satisfied with its design.
21:49.43WormyI like what I did with one of my latest screenshots.  [[File:Hyperspace battle.png]].  Its imbetween two subspace layers and realspace (the stars in the background)
21:49.43morgothBotPyWormy meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Hyperspace_battle.png
21:51.39The_RandomnessShadow/Grox ship?
21:53.31Wormyyep
21:53.43WormyAnd the ship at the back is a DCP Hyperspace station
21:54.03WormyI guess theregion its in could be called an interfold layer http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Interfold_layer
21:54.08GhelaeMight you be joining the new Fantasy Universe, Wormy? I know Random's not interested, as he told Imperios so earlier.
21:54.35WormyWell, considering I had an idea for a fantasy universe, I suppose I could
21:54.51WormyI am afraid to say running out of fictio ideas really
21:55.10WormyI might need a new direction
21:55.31GhelaeWell, there are a few things that might be needed in the fantasyverse.
21:56.12GhelaeYou could make a militaristic civilisation, sort of like orcs, who are responsible for (amongst other things) wiping out Arbor Vitae's tribe.
21:56.36GhelaeAlthough, thinking about it, I'm not sure how much I can help you beyond giving you these basic ideas.
21:56.53GhelaeBut then again, maybe a break from high-tech fictions is what you need to break your writer's block.
21:57.26The_RandomnessI don't see how I could have too much fun in the fantasyverse.
21:58.07GhelaeYou're more a purely sci-fi person, aren't you?
21:58.15WormyI do like some fantasies such as Lord of the Rings (more real world mythological ones like Boewulf)
21:58.35WormyBut I don't know much about Fantasy to tell you the truth
21:58.47The_RandomnessI love fiction, but in this fantasyverse, it might be more difficult to maintain a chaotic neutral power.
21:58.51WormyBut it would be a new thing
22:00.16GhelaeWell, I think it would be best if we kept to Spore themes - hence we've got things like the Source and Screebles, and races fit into Tribal or City Stage - but with fantasy on top, like how Spore itself is sci-fi.
22:01.17The_RandomnessI still think maintaining a chaotic neutral alignment would be difficult.
22:01.44GhelaePossibly, yes. But why do you think that?
22:03.16The_RandomnessIt's easier than ever to take sides when potential enemies are within walking distance.
22:04.35GhelaeWell, the walking would take several days in many cases. But I suppose it's a still a fair point.
22:04.59GhelaeAnd you can't protect a tribal village with plasma storms.
22:05.07The_RandomnessYes.
22:05.54The_RandomnessIndividuals are much easier for this.
22:07.58The_RandomnessLook at Jack Sparrow, otherwise you might end up being a punch clock hero/villain.
22:08.34The_RandomnessA hired mercenary or assassin would be that sort of punch clock hero/villain.
22:10.40WormyIs a one of those magic filled, fantasy creature stuffed fictions like Harry Potter?  Then I'll decline.  If its more my like real mythology or Lord of the Rings style Fantasy then maybe
22:11.37GhelaeThere isn't much magic, and it is sort of like Lord of the Rings. The magic that exists is more like Essence in the main SporeWikiverse, I suppose.
22:11.58Wormythats better!
22:12.44The_RandomnessFor the finer points of the punchclock hero/villain carefully check TvTropes.
22:12.54GhelaeWell, Dinoman82's working on it. Of course it's going to be like LotR! :D
22:13.33GhelaeYeah, I know about Punch Clock Villains. I suppose I might look at that article again, if you really want me to.
22:13.34Wormygood
22:13.52The_RandomnessBe careful, otherwise you'll be pulled in.
22:14.11WormyI don't dare look cus of that
22:14.20GhelaeI know the risks of TV Tropes Wiki, Random.
22:14.40Ghelae:P
22:14.44WormyUncyclopedia is much the same
22:14.45The_RandomnessGood.
22:14.56WormyI get pulled into that
22:15.21The_RandomnessUncyclopedia is one of those "what is this?" things.
22:15.29Wormytrue
22:15.50GhelaeIt's a general feature of wikis. TV Tropes is worse for most people because the trope titles mean that it's rarely ever clear what the articles are actually about until you actually start reading them.
22:16.14The_RandomnessAny ideas for something with a chaotic neutral alignment?
22:17.36GhelaeOther than Tom Bombadil? No.
22:17.49The_Randomness^
22:19.31The_RandomnessJack Sparrow is Chaotic Neutral, but I have no idea how to be like that quite yet.
22:20.24GhelaeChaotic Neutral characters seem to be slightly-crazy people who don't have much need to care about much at all.
22:20.53GhelaeThat seems to be the fundamental principle behind them.
22:21.00The_RandomnessTheir own side, I would check the Tv...oh wait.
22:24.46The_RandomnessPunchclock heroes/villains are boring.
22:25.26GhelaeWhat you're saying is, villains and heroes need good motivations for being villains and heroes, not just because it's their job or because it's what they do?
22:25.48The_RandomnessI guess.
22:26.08The_RandomnessThey need a reason, otherwise it's probably just "for the lulz".
22:27.13GhelaeWell, I'll leave you two to decide whether or not you'll join the fantasyverse, and if you do, what your fiction will be.
22:27.14The_RandomnessAnd then you start blowing stuff up, which is always fun.
22:27.21GhelaeI'm going to go now.
22:27.26The_RandomnessBye.
22:27.27Ghelae~blow up stuff
22:27.27infobotACTION blows up stuff
22:27.31GhelaeBye!
22:27.32*** part/#sporewiki Ghelae (568481ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.132.129.255)
22:35.56IrskaadYay, Randie's gone.
22:36.06IrskaadWant to roleplay anything?
22:38.07*** join/#sporewiki The_Randomness (~chatzilla@c-75-72-116-108.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
22:38.28The_RandomnessThis will be my sort of harness.
22:38.38The_RandomnessPoke me if I don't respond for too long.
22:40.13The_RandomnessGot that?
22:40.17Wormyyep
22:41.20The_RandomnessI need to do something first though.
22:44.09WormyHow do I know you've not been really tempted in for eternity now you said that?
22:46.02Wormy~fetch The_Randomness
22:46.07WormyIts been 5 mins
22:46.15Wormy./me starts pulling rop
22:46.21Wormystarts pulling rope
22:53.14The_RandomnessI'm working on something outside.
22:53.23The_RandomnessI'll tell you when I'm back in.
22:55.02Wormyokay
22:55.10WormyGetting yourself prepared
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23:01.35Reaper_17Hi Guys.
23:01.38Reaper_17#sporerp
23:03.41Wormyhiya
23:04.42WormyIll be annoucing my new fiction ideas soon
23:07.24Reaper_17Okay
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23:30.12Ramishello
23:30.32IrskaadHello.
23:30.38Ramishi Irsk
23:31.14RamisI got DoW2 today but I have a science fair so I havent played it yet :(
23:31.31IrskaadOk.
23:31.47Ramishonors classes will be easy they said....
23:32.15Ramisa lie...
23:34.03Ramisbye all
23:57.33The_RandomnessBack.
23:58.35The_Randomness~poke Wormy
23:58.35infobotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Wormy, pokes Wormy repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
23:58.58Wormyhello
23:59.25WormyOuch thats worse than Lezias petting
23:59.31The_RandomnessLol
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23:59.50The_RandomnessI shall now venture back into the depths of TvTropes in search of an idea.

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