IRC log for #sporewiki on 20110110

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00:12.04RawrsauceHi
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00:49.52RawrsauceGuys?
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01:25.46Rawrsauceuhuhuhuhuhuh
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02:21.34Ramis~800
02:21.42Ramis~cry
02:21.42infobotACTION cries and sobs until she nearly drowns in her own tears.
02:21.47Ramislolz
02:22.51Ramis~Ramis
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05:32.11Ramis~cry
05:32.11infobotACTION cries and sobs until she nearly drowns in her own tears.
05:33.19Ramisinfobot: what's up?
05:33.19infobotUp is the direction away from the central point of gravity.
05:33.27Ramisdumb bot
05:33.35Ramisdumn bot.
05:34.37Ramisdumb bot.
05:35.48Ramisx?
05:35.53Ramisx
05:35.56Ramiswho am I
05:36.01Ramiswho am I?
05:38.30Ramishi infobot
05:38.36Ramisinfobot?
05:38.51Ramis~infobot
05:38.51infobot[infobot] in need of training, can someone train me?
05:39.05Ramis~yes
05:39.06infobotrumour has it, yes is the opposite of no
05:39.14Ramis~no
05:39.38Ramis~it's not
05:39.38infobotYes, it is!
05:39.50Ramis~not really
05:40.16Ramis~i hate you
05:40.16infobotYou hate you?
05:40.29Ramis~dammit
05:40.46Ramis~do you love me?
05:40.46infobotyes, I love me.
05:40.57Ramis~you are selfish
05:40.58infobotRamis: what are you talking about?
05:41.18Ramis~how are you
05:41.18infobotRamis: you know how it is...
05:41.25Ramis`yes i do
05:41.29Ramis~yes i do
05:41.29infobotYou do?
05:41.36Ramis~oh yeah
05:41.36infobothttp://churchturing.org/x/yeah.mp3
05:41.59Ramis~wtf
05:42.16Ramis~thank you
05:42.16infobotRamis: no worries
05:42.50Ramis~i love you
05:42.50infobotYou love you?
05:42.57Ramis~maybe
05:43.04Ramis~600
05:43.24Ramis`are you there
05:43.26Ramis~arre you there
05:44.07Ramis~infobot is stupid
05:44.18Ramis-infobot is stupid
05:44.46Ramis~sing
05:44.46infobotACTION sings loudly
05:45.52Ramis~where are you
05:45.53infobotI am at 42.37512 N, 72.51999 W
05:46.02Ramis~creepy
05:46.19Ramis~are you there
05:47.09Ramis~will you marry me
05:47.09infobotno, ramis, I prefer virile men.
05:47.24Ramis~oh
05:47.24infobothmm... oh is the admin of linux.Box.sk
05:47.30Ramis~that sucks
05:47.53Ramis~sometimes i hate you
05:48.19Ramis~want to get dinenr soemtime
05:48.27Ramis~want to get dinner sometime
05:48.36Ramis~no?
05:48.53Ramis~that's what they all say
05:48.59Ramis~lol
05:48.59infobothmm... lol is stands for Laughing Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead.
05:49.13Ramislol
05:50.07Ramis~punch
05:50.07infobotACTION punches ChanServ - that wasn't very nice!
05:50.16Ramis~not him
05:50.20Ramis~me
05:50.43Ramis~attack
05:50.44infobot§help
05:50.49Ramis~please
05:50.50infobotDo I look like an information bitch, ramis?
05:51.01Ramis~yes you do
05:51.13Ramis~grammar
05:51.13infobotfrom memory, grammar is a system of pitfalls thoughtfully prepared for the feet for the self-made man, along the path by which he advances to distinction.
05:51.29Ramis~your's is bad
05:51.29infobotokay, Ramis
05:51.36Ramis~thank you
05:51.36infobotno problem, Ramis
05:51.43Ramis~ok
05:51.43infobotfine
05:51.50Ramis~i love you
05:51.50infobotYou love you?
05:51.55Ramis~no you
05:52.09Ramis~stupid bot
05:52.09infobotStupid human.
05:52.16Ramis~shut up
05:52.16infobotshutting up now, master ramis
05:52.24Ramis~i didn't mean it that way
05:52.25infobotYou didn't mean it that way?
05:52.30Ramis~yes
05:52.31infobotsomebody said yes was the opposite of no
05:52.44Ramis~that's true
05:53.06Ramis~how's life
05:53.17Ramis~i see
05:53.17infobotYou see?
05:53.46Ramis~yes i do
05:53.46infobotYou do?
05:53.46Ramis~sometimes i hate you
05:53.48Ramis~but i still love you
05:53.48infobotYou still love you?
05:54.12Ramis~no, i still love you
05:54.21Ramis~though i am better
05:54.29Ramis~by far
05:56.04Ramis~you there
05:56.04infobotOf course I am!
05:56.13Ramis~that makes me happy
05:57.40Ramis~you ok
05:57.49Ramis~are you ok
05:58.39Ramis~infobot
05:58.39infobot[infobot] in need of training, can someone train me?
05:58.47Ramis~yes i can
05:58.47infobotYou can?
05:58.52Ramis~indeed
05:58.52infobotYes, indeed!  ramis is da man.
05:58.59Ramis~i am
05:58.59infobotYou am?
05:59.04Ramis~quite so
05:59.12Ramis~i am lonely
05:59.12infobotit is my pleasure to meet you, lonely
05:59.22Ramis~you're so inconsiderate
05:59.55Ramis~sometimes you ake me sad
06:00.00Ramis~you make me sad
06:00.10Ramis~bitch
06:00.10infobotsomebody said bitch was a female dog . an iz a bad word if used wrongly . dont say dat ok
06:00.19Ramis~I'm sorry
06:00.19infobotACTION forgives you ramis
06:00.24Ramis~thank you
06:00.24infobotno worries, Ramis
06:00.30Ramis~you are so kind
06:00.30infobotRamis: what are you talking about?
06:00.37Ramis~you forgave me
06:00.42Ramis~i was mean
06:00.42infobotYou was mean?
06:01.26Ramis~i was
06:01.26infobotYou was?
06:01.31Ramis~you was
06:01.45Ramis~see it get annoying
06:01.45infobotACTION whispers to it get annoying "You didn't see anything...."
06:02.12Ramis~goodbye my love
06:02.16Ramis~bye
06:02.16infobotcya
06:02.23Ramis~i'll miss you
06:02.33Ramis~morgoth
06:02.43Ramis~baby?
06:02.43infobotmethinks baby is the other other white meat, or a way to create a new process from two parents
06:02.54Ramis~ok bye
06:02.54infobotcya
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07:38.11LotG~kiss
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10:44.28ImperiosHi peepz
10:44.33Imperios~kill
10:44.42Imperios~kill everyone else
10:44.42infobotACTION shoots a charged anti-neutrino gun at everyone else
10:44.50Imperios~murder someone
10:44.50infobotACTION shoots someone in his sleep
10:44.55Imperios~burn Earth
10:44.56infobotACTION pours gasoline all over Earth, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze
10:45.01Imperios~revive Hitler
10:45.02infobotACTION performs the Heimlich, mouth-to-mouth, shock treatment and anything else necessary to revive Hitler
10:45.12Imperios~torture someone
10:45.12infobotACTION forces someone to support Debian GNU/Hurd in production.
10:45.26Imperios~rape lol
10:45.27infobotACTION takes lol behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams
10:45.39Imperios~dance
10:45.39infobot<(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)>
10:45.47Imperios~dance Xhodocto
10:45.47infobotXhodocto, dance with me! Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' Elive, stayin' Elive
10:46.12Imperios~corrupt Xhodocto
10:46.18Imperios~sex lol
10:46.26Imperios~heal Xhodocto
10:46.26infobotACTION heals Xhodocto with Super Cow Powers.
10:46.31Imperios~cure Xhodocto
10:46.31infobotACTION pulls out a needle and syringe, then under the very loud protesting of Xhodocto, does not use the syringe and just calls 911 instead.
10:47.38Imperios~explode Xhodocto
10:47.39infobotACTION blows up Xhodocto with bombs
10:47.48Imperios~seduce someone
10:47.53ImperiosThat does not work..
10:47.59Imperios~rape itself
10:47.59infobotACTION takes itself behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams
10:48.30Imperios~sing
10:48.30infobotACTION sings loudly
10:48.35Imperios~sing Raddo
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10:57.30Reaper_17Hi Imperios
11:24.55Reaper_17NVM, this is too boring
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11:58.35RawrsauceHi
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12:00.52RawrsauceHi
12:02.55RawrsauceWell bye
12:15.01Imperios~rape
12:15.08Imperios~rape R17
12:15.08infobotACTION takes R17 behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams
12:15.15Imperios~heal R17
12:15.15infobotACTION heals R17 with Super Cow Powers.
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13:54.08LotGHey Imperios.
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13:59.46FacecatHello
14:07.29Imperioshi
14:07.31ImperiosFacecat
14:07.32Imperioslook
14:07.35ImperiosInfobot is a perv
14:07.38Imperios~rape someone
14:07.38infobotACTION takes someone behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams
14:07.53FacecatMy crazy grandma is acting up again >>
14:07.58Imperios~protect Imperios
14:07.58infobotacts as Imperios's bodyguard
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14:55.00FalcoPunchHeyyy
14:55.07Wormyhi
14:55.23WormyI haz returned
14:55.35FalcoPunchCool
14:55.49WormyAny sign of 99cmoney and his gang of merry men?
14:56.01FalcoPunchNoo
14:56.04Wormygood
14:56.13FalcoPunchwell, I don't think so.
14:56.19FalcoPunchI've been gone a lot too.
14:56.26WormyOh ok
14:56.32FalcoPunchI don't have school today =P
14:56.46FalcoPunchCuz of the snow.
14:56.54FalcoPunch(It's 8:56 here)
14:57.28WormyIts 2:57 PM where I am
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15:53.17Catface_~Hello
15:53.18infobotHowdy Bub
15:54.37FalcoPunchHey.
15:55.04Catface_LIFE!
15:55.39Catface_Hi Falco
15:55.42FalcoPunchhi
15:55.57Catface_Are you the only one alive...
15:56.09Wormyhi
15:56.18FalcoPunchno
15:56.26Catface_YAY WORMY!
15:56.49Catface_Hi
15:58.42FalcoPunchSooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
15:58.50FalcoPunchIt be snowing!
15:59.00FalcoPunchMM, do you have a snow day too?
15:59.28Catface_Yes
15:59.36Catface_And no
15:59.48FalcoPunchOh, that makes sense -_-
16:01.13FalcoPunch(Explain)
16:01.47Catface_I take an online high school. Cheaper then private yet better (and much harder) then public.
16:02.15FalcoPunchAh.
16:02.51WormyA bit like home school
16:02.54Catface_So I can edit sporewiki and do schoolwork at the same time :p
16:03.01Catface_Yeah
16:03.11FalcoPunchcool
16:03.37WormySo how does it work?
16:04.12WormyLike internet or live watching a class room?
16:05.02Catface_It's kinda like school but with no annoying teachers and annoying kids.
16:05.42Catface_No, it's all text and it's accredited.
16:05.54WormyI see
16:06.13Wormycool (I used to be home schooled once)
16:06.20WormyIt was awesome
16:06.29Catface_I didn't do well in public school because I have agoraphobia and such.
16:06.52WormyI didn't like the teachers, they didn't like me
16:07.18Catface_That too. >>
16:08.01WormyMy flue came back on my mini holiday :(
16:08.04Wormyflu
16:08.07Catface_My teachers where idiots. They didn't know how to work the VCR.
16:08.20Catface_:(
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16:11.42Wormyhi
16:11.52Catface_Ghelae the God of pancakes!
16:11.57GhelaeHi!
16:12.07GhelaeGod of pancakes? Huh?
16:12.20Wormylol
16:12.26WormyI don't see the connection
16:12.27Ghelaecreates a pancake out of thin air
16:12.34GhelaeBut come on, anyone can do that.
16:12.39Catface_Yesh! *Worships Ghelae the pancake god*
16:13.16WormyI prefer these - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire_pudding
16:13.27GhelaeOh, I can make them too.
16:13.28WormyDo you get them in America?
16:14.10Catface_No
16:14.14WormyDo you like my new battle in the New Grox Wars?
16:14.21WormyAwww, missin out!
16:15.01WormyImagine a crispier pancake filled with msdhed potato, sausage, beans and gravy
16:15.11WormyThe size of your plate
16:15.30Catface_We have this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gumbo
16:16.01Catface_Wait, arnt you a vegetarian?
16:16.10WormyWe get that where I come from
16:16.22WormyThere is a vege version of everything
16:17.09Catface_Even this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/Chickn.JPG
16:17.50WormyWho has seen The Warriors?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Warriors_(film)
16:17.51GhelaeYep. Everything.
16:17.57GhelaeNo, I've never seen it.
16:18.38Catface_To be fair I only eat meat if I know where it came from.
16:19.09WormyIt was cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV4cgs-bPic
16:20.23Catface_CAN YOU DIG IT?
16:20.53Wormylol
16:23.05Catface_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYCoXKSCQcM
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16:23.39Wormyhi
16:23.43LotGHi
16:23.43GhelaeHi, Luc!
16:23.55LotGHi, Ghel!
16:24.04Catface_Hi
16:24.06WormyWanna see more DCP TV?  This warns against speaking against outloud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0OrL97wjeg
16:24.40LotGI love Starship Troopers.
16:24.45WormyPeople need to watch what they say in the DCP!
16:24.52WormySo di I
16:24.52Catface_It's hangin' time!
16:25.02LotGBut Starship Troopers 2 really creeped me out.
16:25.34LotGStarship Troopers 3 was just crap.
16:25.54WormyI think 3 was the best
16:26.02GhelaeOh, Wormy, there was something I was going to ask you about SporeWiki cosmology: should branes and the fabric of spacetime be considered as something that literally exist, or just something that's the result of branons?
16:26.03WormyCan't wait for 4
16:26.36GhelaeUnfortunately, I can't quite think of how to put into words how the latter of those would work.
16:27.25WormyI don't know.  Remember, branes are basically flat 2D strings, but basically are strings.  Stroings vibrate and builds the particle model
16:27.38WormySo both are related
16:27.49LotGThe effects in 3 really disappointed me.
16:28.09WormyI was wondering
16:28.15Wormywoops
16:28.38LotGWut?
16:28.59Catface_I hate when i smoke weed and jump out of windows.
16:29.02WormyI meant, I recently heard spacetime exists on boundaries (its complicated), but they are really in a higher dimension
16:29.30LotG@MM, wut?
16:29.52Catface_Just randomness
16:30.00WormyHolographic theory.  Strings could be thougght of as information too, meaning that our spacetime is merely a projection
16:30.38LotGYou jumped through my ceiling and let an owl in. I know they're supposed to be wise, but all it did was screech and cough up half-digested mice.
16:30.45GhelaeIf strings aren't "solid"... maybe it could be like there's a "core", but other than that the string extends in a sort of field... the branes could be a something like a conglomeration of "tachyons" (as in the force mediators that go with branons).
16:31.11Catface_@Wormy I found the DCP's new theme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac8TBp0dtfw&playnext=1&list=PL05349FD2D855A3AC&index=25
16:31.35WormyAnd since tachyons can travel at infinite speed (so can spacetime), we might find a connection there.
16:32.32Wormy@Cat:Well, the DCP goverment might think the song is too joly and could cayse rebellion
16:32.47Wormyto jolly cause
16:33.24Catface_THE JOLLY REBELLION!
16:33.39LotGThis could be the DCP's theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zRdeOHc8iQ
16:34.21WormyAs long as music in the DCP has subliminal messages its okay
16:34.35LotGLike in Simpsons?
16:34.35WormyMind control
16:34.36GhelaeSo, that seems like another aspect of SporeWikiverse cosmology sorted out. Each spacetime can just be considered to be a brane of tachyons, effectively a giant dezon-branon interaction.
16:35.01FalcoPunchLUC!
16:35.01Catface_Like "Obey dammit!"?
16:35.20WormyBut then, how do we consider spacetime going up in each dimension?
16:35.25Catface_That's the subline message in most ULE songs.
16:35.52LotGFAL!
16:36.05GhelaeWould that be an effect which has something to do with the different "settings" of the branons?
16:36.10Catface_FAL?
16:36.15FalcoPunchCAT!
16:36.33WormyOh yes
16:36.39LotGSubliminal messages? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrOFt-0-e0
16:37.36WormyI just came up with an idea for hoe setting work
16:37.46Wormy*how settings
16:38.23LotGlol hoe settings XD
16:38.56Catface_Propaganda is powerful indeed...
16:39.05WormyMy idea is in digital physics.  Perhaps think of the branons as the hardware, and the software, as the informoation that programs it
16:39.18Wormyinformation
16:41.03GhelaeOkay. So what is the software? I suppose dezons seem to fill that role.
16:42.49WormyYeah thats what I was thinking.  Perhaps the dezons would be the information, that is "digital".
16:42.55Catface_This is kinda like ULE propaganda aimed at children. Only less communist and stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZw7Ve3yj_g&feature=related
16:43.16WormyThat would explain how the BCC can program the universe
16:44.22WormyAnd it would also suppert Cosmospawn from Weeler's "It from Bit" idea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_physics#Wheeler.27s_.22it_from_bit.22
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16:44.54GhelaeHi!
16:45.10GhelaeNot that you ever do much here anyway...
16:45.49Wormyhi
16:46.25WormyI love connecting the theories
16:48.28GhelaeWell, something like digital physics works for the SporeWikiverse cosmology now. The fundamental... particley-ness that makes up particles and branes is probably best described as "information"...
16:48.31LotGWal Disney's signature has a 666 in it.
16:48.36LotGWalt*
16:48.53Ghelaeand the bits and particloids can perhaps be considered essentially synonymous too.
16:49.36Catface_Meh
16:49.41WormyBTW, I found a song on the Higgs mechanism http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9-euN_JVLA
16:52.19GhelaeAs for what "computes" the universe, perhaps all that needs to have happened was that something started it. I'd say that "Essence", perhaps being conscious in some sense (essentially identical to Um's "Once God"), should be a seperate thing outside of "particleyness". It could have started existance much like what would have happened in Cosmospawn Theory.
16:53.19LotGI found a song on elements! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPq3SEteEJc
16:55.01WormyYes, the "Ultimate Observer"
16:55.25WormyThe Quantum mind that is every conscious being in the universe fine tuning it
16:56.27WormyThis idea of an Ultimate Observer was explored in Timelikle Infinity (Xeelee.Sequence) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelike_Infinity
16:57.46GhelaeAll conscious minds would ultimately be part of the Essence anyway, although greatly affected by the physical world around them, (mostly) unlike pure Essence.
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16:58.10ImperiosHello people
16:58.13Wormyhi
16:58.16Wormyyeah
16:58.20GhelaeHi!
16:58.23Catface_hi
16:58.39ImperiosI am currently thinking about idea of Aurenian Union being controlled by Asdran'Ar cultist, like Ghe thinked out.
16:59.04Imperiosand about Asdran'ar cultists, who are going to be a fiction.
16:59.46ImperiosIt will be hard to make a fiction about evil cult without making a god, which stops me. I do not want to create yet another god...
17:00.07LotGWhat about they have a corrupt and dark image of Spode?
17:00.24ImperiosI.e. opposite of Spode? That's Nightmare.
17:00.43LotGNo, I meant they worship Spode, but see him as a dark entity.
17:01.01GhelaeYou already made Asdran'Ar, didn't you? There's still the possibility of him being a creation of Spode who turned away.
17:01.06Imperiosit looks like normal Zealot empires see him as a light entity.
17:01.11GhelaeOr, yes, they could just have a corrupt view of Spode.
17:01.19ImperiosSpode is opposite of both darkness and light ,actually.
17:01.43LotGBut the AU are gonna be evil, aren't they? They'll have to be biased.
17:01.45ImperiosProbably rebel Spodeling? But doesn't make it look like AC too much?
17:01.47GhelaeOr they could even worship another god. The worship of Asdran'Ar could be an evolution of the worship of something like Nightmare or even Kamik'Shi having evolved over millennia.
17:02.03GhelaeOr they could worship a god that doesn't actually exist.
17:02.23GhelaeLike how, inevitably, most real-world religions are not going to be literally accurate.
17:02.54ImperiosOr probably they could worship a Descended being, like Tricarrion.
17:03.03LotGOr they could worship an evil historic individual?
17:03.07Ghelae"Asdran'Ar" could have been an Ascended/Descended being, a technologically-advanced allien, or maybe just a myth.
17:03.25GhelaeDescended being would be the best option if you want him to have some real power.
17:03.37ImperiosTechnologically advanced alien? That makes sense...
17:03.55WormyA Transapient
17:04.01WormyHyperturing
17:04.02LotGAny sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
17:04.04GhelaeMaybe.
17:04.18GhelaeIt depends on when the cult of Asdran'Ar began.
17:04.28Wormyhttp://www.orionsarm.com/eg-topic/45c54923c3496
17:04.30ImperiosProbably the last of some unknown species (Vida'Rra?) who decided, for his own survival, to make a religion around himself.
17:04.45WormyStill, best not to copy OA
17:04.47GhelaeEven a being with Tier 5 technology would seem almost godlike to a tribal race.
17:04.53WormyIndeed
17:05.06WormyIf I went to 500 years in the future I would be lost
17:05.26ImperiosOA? Wait, WTF is oa?
17:05.35ImperiosA, Orion's Arm
17:06.21ImperiosOkay.
17:06.24WormyI mean if we are still advancing expotentially in the next 500 years, I will have no idea what tech and science humans would have, I probably wouldn'te even recorgnise a human
17:06.39ImperiosYeah.
17:06.50ImperiosWe gona turn into sometihng liek grays?
17:07.03WormyDunno
17:07.04LotGNo, apparently, there will be two subspecies of humans.
17:07.09GhelaeAlso, if Asdran'Ar isn't going to be a real deity, what's going to happen to Entropic Energy? Will it still remain (I suppose Nightmare could be its patron deity, so there's no issue there).
17:07.21GhelaeNobody really knows what the future holds.
17:07.28ImperiosYesh, Nightmare will be a new patron deity.
17:07.36LotGOne that looks like Kaminoans and ones that look like trolls. Stephen Fry said this,
17:07.58ImperiosTrololoolololololoooooooooo!
17:08.10WormyHe is a comedian
17:08.11GhelaeWe could die out before the end of the century, we could reach technological singularity, we could develop a post-scarcity society and all become posthumans of our own choice, etc.
17:08.29ImperiosI am currently thiking about cult leader.
17:08.29Wormyoh yes
17:08.36WormyOr something upredictable
17:08.41Imperioshe (actually, most likely She) will be REALLY evil.
17:08.52ImperiosUnlike Asdran'Ar, he could be probably neutral.
17:09.22GhelaeWorshipping a god of chaos (regardless of what Asdran'Ar actually is) would probably turn you evil, yes.
17:10.10WormyMind you, at least those who do are flowing with the universe.  Its no good making order in a universe which becomes increasingly chaotic
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17:11.10GhelaeHi!
17:11.16OluapPlayerHi
17:11.23Wormyhi
17:11.25LotGhI op
17:11.26Wormyparty time
17:11.38OluapPlayerpartei
17:11.52GhelaeImperios is changing, amongst other things, his Asdran'Ar fiction. Would you mind Shu'ulathoi being the new patron deity of Entropic Energy?
17:12.39OluapPlayerYou mean "deity" in the "god" way?
17:13.00OluapPlayerThat reminds me
17:13.02GhelaeI mean "deity" in the sense of "any supernatural being".
17:13.11OluapPlayerIs there any page about the entropic energy?
17:13.22Catface_I g2g
17:13.22OluapPlayerOh ok, I don't mind at all
17:13.25Ghelae[[Creature:Millenis/The Entropy]], I think.
17:13.25morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Millenis/The_Entropy
17:13.31Wormyk bye
17:13.34Catface_bye
17:13.47GhelaeOkay, I'll edit my SporeWiki Pantheon blog now.
17:13.48OluapPlayerPatron sounds cool stuff :v
17:14.25OluapPlayerSo, I edit his page calling him that?
17:15.12GhelaeWell, you can do if you want. Nobody else has done so on theirs. But you should at least mention his close association with the Energy.
17:15.59OluapPlayerI better not, then
17:16.37OluapPlayerUntil I can think about this "association"
17:17.33GhelaeIt would basically be something like Shu'ulathoi being an entity composed (mostly or entirely) of Entropic Energy, and being innately proficient in its use.
17:17.52OluapPlayerOh
17:17.56OluapPlayerThat's easy then
17:18.11GhelaeHis creations (or at least the Skulldudes) would also share these aspects.
17:18.17ImperiosOkay.
17:18.43GhelaeBRB
17:18.53ImperiosHm...
17:18.54ImperiosBTW
17:19.00OluapPlayerSkulldudes and the Crow are made of Nightmare's power, so yeah, they are also made of entropy
17:19.03Imperioswhat species can be a Cult leader?
17:23.24ImperiosWhat species can be a cult leader?
17:23.33LotGHmm.....
17:23.40LotGWhat about a rogue Zazane?
17:23.58ImperiosI do not need any evil guys. Good guys are best.
17:24.18ImperiosAnd can anyone observe this chat secretly??
17:24.22LotGHmm.....
17:24.36OluapPlayerI don't think so
17:24.44Wormy@Ghel: We need to have a good look at how time works on the wiki soon, there seems to be lots
17:24.53ImperiosOkay.
17:24.54ImperiosSo
17:25.16WormyTechno's "Gyronic time" (although I am trying to make it more 5th dimensional)
17:25.29ImperiosAsdran'Ar cultists will be partially based on Church of Scientology, and Jehova's Witnesses.
17:25.40WormyMy dimensional spacetime that I use often
17:26.12WormyAnd the timeless existence in Cosmospawn
17:26.20LotGWazzup? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB71kG_UT0A
17:28.55WormyI mean, it isn't temporal immunity why the Quantumhorde are outsiode time, its because they are in a superpositional state
17:29.04GhelaeBack.
17:30.39GhelaeImperios: Couldn't the Asdran'Ar Cult Leader be one of the species in the Aurenian Union? Find the one least likely to be a cultist, maybe. Perhaps the Rashaari?
17:30.52Wormyhi again, I asked you a Qjust above but I'm sure you have seen
17:31.02ImperiosRashaari?
17:31.08ImperiosProbably nice.
17:31.11OluapPlayerGhelae: About Shu's minions sharing the entropic aspects, Skulldudes and the Crow are made of Shu's power, so they are entropic being too. AC and Alan teh Viking aren't made of entropy, but they could have some control ove rit
17:31.28GhelaeWormy: My thought about the Gyronic is that it's simply an Energy that's used to keep time in check, rather than actually being a fundamental component of time itself.
17:32.10LotGHow bout the cult leader is a statue who the cult believes to tell them things? XD
17:32.13GhelaeOluap: Yes, AC and Alan would be skilled Entropic users, but the Skulldudes and Crow would probably be more powerful.
17:32.24ImperiosNo. Kinda odd.
17:32.25ImperiosHm...
17:32.32ImperiosI planned the leader to be female...
17:32.59ImperiosGrimb female, maybe?
17:33.35ImperiosNo... they cannot be taken seriously. A ruler of evil cult corrupting entire goverments... a green girl with huge eyes?
17:33.46OluapPlayerAlan cannot use Entropy offensively, and AC would be a sorcerer-kind of guy
17:33.47GhelaeSo what was wrong with the Rashaari?
17:33.59ImperiosWell, hm...
17:34.36LotGWhat about a corrupt andf evil Asgord female? XD
17:34.40LotGand*
17:34.47ImperiosThat makes sense!
17:34.50OluapPlayerEvil Asgord?
17:34.51ImperiosSo:
17:34.55OluapPlayerDoes not compute
17:35.18ImperiosRambo, Grimbolsaurian, Libertus, Rashaari/Radeon and Asgord are candidates.
17:35.20ImperiosVote!
17:35.32LotGLibertus.
17:35.36ImperiosLet voting kombat begins!
17:36.03GhelaeI vote Rashaari/Radeon. Makes sense that the secret leader of the Union should ultimately be one of the Union's member species.
17:36.17LotGNo it doesn't.
17:36.24GhelaeEven if she isn't directly in control of the Union (i.e. if that's another Cultist's job).
17:36.30GhelaeWhy not?
17:36.41LotGCos it'd be unfair on the other races.
17:36.59LotGThere has to be a cult leader whose species is not within the cult.
17:37.07GhelaeErm... why?
17:37.43LotGCos otherwise it'd just be evil Raddies with evil allies.
17:37.43OluapPlayerWhat is the entropy's relation with the other energies?
17:37.52WormyI'll be semi-active for the next 30 mins, expect slower replies
17:38.06GhelaeIt seems that the Radeon-type creatures make good religious leaders.
17:38.39GhelaeOluap: I think it's a corrupting Energy in the "Chaotic" category, similar in some ways to Demonic Energy and Dark Energy.
17:38.47LotGI vote Libertus.
17:38.56LotGWe already have an evil Raddie.
17:39.33ImperiosEntropy is one of the strongest, if not the strongest, of energies, but 99% of sentients die when using more that 1% of its potential.
17:39.46OluapPlayerI'm loving this
17:39.47GhelaeActually, one thing is, where is the Union from? Might help us work out which species are likely to be major members.
17:40.05Imperiosmajor species are:
17:40.27GhelaeI mean, major members of the Asdran'Ar Cult.
17:40.47ImperiosAsdran'Ar cult? They pick everyone.
17:40.47GhelaeNot just the Union.
17:41.12GhelaeBut where do they originate from? Or where does the Union come from?
17:41.14OluapPlayerImperios, you don't mind Nightmare being the "patron deity" of it, right?
17:41.14ImperiosAsdran'Ar generally pick everyone.
17:41.31ImperiosYes, I thinki it is nice idea.
17:41.52OluapPlayer:D
17:41.52GhelaeBut what location? Like what galaxy did the cult start in, or is its major base of operations?
17:42.28ImperiosLocation... hm...
17:42.33LotGWe already have an evil Radeon, I don't think there should be one controlling this cult.
17:43.05ImperiosHm... let me think.
17:43.21OluapPlayerWhat is this Cult we are talking about?
17:43.25ImperiosThey are most powerful in Milky Way and Cyrannus, since they are populate and major.
17:43.44ImperiosCult of Asdran'Ar (also known as Imperios the Chaoslord)
17:44.04GhelaeAsgord is a less likely candidate, then.
17:44.09GhelaeBut all of the others should be fine.
17:44.12WormyWe are not going to get into a trend with these cults are we?
17:44.19OluapPlayerThe same Imperios from the Entropic Energy article?
17:44.27LotGZazane are against cults, don't worry.
17:44.40GhelaeCults aren't too much of a problem if they don't worship a real god.
17:45.04ImperiosExactly, but I am going to retcon Imperios/Entropy relation, and make Nightmare/Entropy relation instead.
17:45.05GhelaeWell, unless they all act similarly and worship similar beings; then they become cliché.
17:45.08WormyI mean names like "Cult of the _____"
17:45.18OluapPlayerI see
17:45.20ImperiosIt could be called
17:45.22GhelaeNo, that's just a descriptive name.
17:45.30LotGAsgord are very unexpected, but if one was to become infatuated with the darkness, then it becomes a good candidate.
17:45.31OluapPlayerA question
17:45.37ImperiosChaotilogy XD
17:45.42OluapPlayerCan I make a fiction page about a Maxis-made creature?
17:45.45ImperiosOkay, that will be too stupid.
17:45.50Imperiosobviously.
17:45.58ImperiosGhe, you made som,e, right?
17:46.13WormyWe already have a Cult of the Deathmarch, I think the Cult of Asdran'Ar will ony spur on Cult names
17:46.22OluapPlayerI was thinking about making a page about the Ernai, or at least the "evil zealoss" from the Spinker history
17:46.22GhelaeI don't see why not. We already have fiction on the Grox. Depends on the creature.
17:46.32WormyAnd Spoffits
17:46.38ImperiosProbably Cult Imperio?
17:46.44GhelaeYeah, the Ernai's a minor creature. You should be fine with that.
17:46.50LotGOr Imperios Cult?
17:46.51OluapPlayerGreat
17:46.54ImperiosAsdradevotia?
17:46.57GhelaeWhat name would they call themselves? Would they think of themselves as a cult?
17:47.09ImperiosHm, I do not think so.
17:47.25ImperiosProbably Church of Entropia?
17:47.36ImperiosMakes sense + troll scientology.
17:47.46Wormyyeah
17:47.55OluapPlayerThis Ernai empire would be extinct, so they would only serve as an historic reference, unless we revive them somehow
17:48.02LotGAsdracultus?
17:48.09Imperiosactually, I feaar that I could offend Scientology. They are highly dangerios.
17:48.43GhelaeIf "Dei'Ar" means "sworn to the deity", then the cult could be something like "Asdran'Ar'Ar"... no... what part of "Dei'Ar" means "sworn to"?
17:49.04GhelaeMaybe "Asdran" could be the name of the evil god, so "Asdran'Ar" is the religion.
17:49.05LotGAsdralatreía?
17:50.02LotGAsdradoracion?
17:50.35LotGAsdrareihai?
17:50.42ImperiosActually, that makes sense.
17:50.56ImperiosAsdran'Ar
17:50.59ImperiosSimply Asdran'Ar
17:51.15Imperiosprobably this is on Radessic.
17:52.00LotGAsdran'Ar'____ I think it should mean "Sworn to Blood" or "Sworn to Dark Blood"
17:52.58*** join/#sporewiki Xho (5ac811d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.200.17.210)
17:53.07XhoEstoy aqui.
17:53.08OluapPlayerHey Xho
17:53.12GhelaeThe cults of Asdran and Spode could have been two ancient religions of the Rades. The one of Spode - Dei'Ar - become the religion of the Radeon, while Asdran'Ar would have become the religion of the Rashaari. Then the Rashaari mostly became atheist, but the cult still survived in secret.
17:53.15GhelaeHi, Xho!
17:53.29ImperiosHm...
17:53.33Wormyhi
17:53.34ImperiosThat makes sense.
17:53.38GhelaeWell, it's one possibility.
17:53.43ImperiosOh!
17:53.50ImperiosAnother version.
17:53.58XhoWhat's with this thing sticking up for Lezia? XD
17:54.10GhelaeJust because, so far, I don't think there's any species that has had more than one religion, except for polytheism vs. monotheism in the Libertus.
17:54.36LotGWhat about something that means "Sworn to Asdran's blood".
17:54.48LotGThat'd be a good cult name.
17:55.01ImperiosActually
17:55.03XhoHey
17:55.05XhoOne Cult
17:55.07ImperiosHi.
17:55.13Xhoj/k
17:55.24ImperiosWell, Cult of the Deathamrch isn't really a cult. It is more of alliance.
17:55.36ImperiosMy cult, Asdran'Ar, will be REAL cult.
17:55.39ImperiosLike Scientology
17:56.00XhoMaybe...just maybe I WILL CREATE SOMETHING WHICH WILL STAY UNIQUE
17:56.01Imperiosbrainwash you and then try to find a way to the goverment.
17:56.01Ghelae"Asdran" could be derived from a proto-Radessic term for blood, if Imperios likes that idea. Just like the names of some Human gods derive from prehistoric words meaning "sky".
17:56.08ImperiosHm...
17:56.11ImperiosNice idea.
17:56.42LotG=(
17:56.57GhelaeXho, there can be more than one religion on SporeWiki. This one - hopefully - won't be very similar to the Deathmarch Cult. Besides, Asdran doesn't really exist, unlike Kamik'Shi.
17:57.00ImperiosAsdran'Ar and CotDmarch will not be similar at all.
17:57.21LotGCotD is not funny.
17:57.45ImperiosThey do not own planets, do not conquer, do not have superweapons.
17:57.53ImperiosTheey are like real life Scientology
17:57.57OluapPlayerHey Xho, Shu'ulathoi is now the patron deity of the entropic energy. He is stronger than your silly demons now :V
17:58.06Imperioscome with you with "test", "brochures", etc.
17:58.19ImperiosThen brainwash you
17:58.25ImperiosEtc.
17:58.32LotGI'm gonna go, nobody listening to me.
17:58.33WormyAs long as the name doesn't mickic it too much as "Cult of the ____"
17:58.45ImperiosAgree.
17:59.07GhelaeSo Asdran'Ar is a religion like most religions on Earth (although outright evil), while the Cult of the Deathmarch is a theocratic hegemony.
17:59.09XhoWait
17:59.12ImperiosXho, we are thinking about Asdran'Ar leader. What species she could be?
17:59.17XhoSpecies?
17:59.21XhoDon't care
17:59.26XhoSp
17:59.28XhoSo
17:59.35ImperiosCurrently idea is Rashaari or Libertus.
17:59.43XhoUhh
17:59.45XhoRashaari
17:59.53XhoMaybe we lay off Libertus
17:59.56XhoThey're in everthing
18:00.49XhoAs I was saying
18:01.05XhoShu'ulathoi maybe a leader of Darkness
18:01.17ImperiosI am currently making a libertus version and Rashaari version.
18:01.36XhoWait
18:01.44XhoNow this is fucking annoying
18:01.45XhoNow
18:01.58OluapPlayerBig boss of entropy by what we discussed
18:02.07XhoAnd you discussed this without me
18:02.10XhoGood idea
18:02.11XhoNot.
18:02.14OluapPlayer:3
18:02.22XhoSo
18:02.52XhoYou discussed the dark end of fiction without the guy who pretty much owns the dark end. WHAT KIND OF IDEA IS THAT
18:03.04OluapPlayerThe idea of a SPAH
18:03.18Ghelae"Entropic Energy" is just another dark, corrupting Energy. It's not the same as Chaos/Demonic Energy.
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18:04.15LotGBack....
18:04.56LotGis gonna carry on here due to boredom
18:05.00GhelaeAlthough, it does seem to be a bit too powerful. You might want to talk to Imperios about that, although I think a lot of that problem is due to him not having updated the page yet.
18:05.03GhelaeWelcome back, Luc.
18:05.19OluapPlayerHe said he though it was a good idea
18:05.30Xhoscreams in indescribable rage
18:05.36OluapPlayerumadbro
18:05.43ImperiosYeah.
18:06.04ImperiosEntropy is an stronger than other energie, bt itis incontrollable - balancing its force.
18:06.13XhoSo
18:06.14XhoBasically
18:06.16ImperiosEntropy is not actually dark
18:06.17LotGis listening to MC Hammer
18:06.27XhoYou just killed the idea of Xhodocto being the most powerful in energies.
18:06.29XhoWell done.
18:06.29Imperiosit is chaotic.
18:06.37ImperiosNot really.
18:06.43XhoFuck it.
18:06.45Wormybrb
18:06.48ImperiosIt is weaker than Chaos, probably.
18:06.51OluapPlayerWe can just make it less powers
18:06.55OluapPlayerpowerful*
18:07.00OluapPlayerSimple as that
18:07.05ImperiosYeah.
18:07.12XhoPerhaps...
18:07.17ImperiosIt is probably stronger than Demonic, but weaker than Chaos.
18:07.22OluapPlayerIf he was OMG SO POWEFAH
18:07.23ImperiosBut it is STRONG.
18:07.29OluapPlayerHe wouldn't be trapped in rainbow land
18:07.41LotGWhy are you trying to make something more powerful than Xho's Xhoddie energies?
18:07.48OluapPlayerI'm not
18:07.51ImperiosWho?
18:07.52ImperiosMe?
18:08.05LotGYeah.
18:08.08LotGYOU.
18:08.11XhoI'm going to re-do Kamik'Shi a bit
18:08.13ImperiosIt is not stronger, actually.
18:08.18ImperiosA: It is outdated.
18:08.23ImperiosIt is made BEFORE chaos energy.
18:08.37LotGThen stop making out it is stronger.
18:08.40OluapPlayerYeah, it needs updating
18:08.44OluapPlayerAnd needs to be nerfed
18:08.47ImperiosB: It is powerful de jure.
18:09.02ImperiosDe facto, trying to use it full potential simply kill you.
18:09.18OluapPlayerSO CALM THE DAMN DOWN YA QUACK
18:09.34XhoHmm...
18:09.38OluapPlayerLet's discuss this like civilizated cavemen
18:09.49XhoIf this means that there's an energy which rivals Chaos
18:09.58LotGI'm not a quack >=(
18:10.01XhoWell there's one thing
18:10.08GhelaeImperios: Maybe you should update the page first, and then we'll be clear about it so we'll be able to discuss it properly.
18:10.08XhoHey
18:10.24ImperiosXho and Luc, don't be scary, it is not so strong.
18:10.30ImperiosYeah.
18:10.36OluapPlayerOne thing that limits Entropic's power is the very low amount of creatures capable of using it
18:11.01LotGThe only thing that should rival Xhoddie energy is Ravenrii energy, thus creating balance.
18:11.37XhoWell right now that isn't doing much either.
18:12.01XhoSo...
18:12.04XhoEnergies
18:12.12XhoIs there like a classification for it now?
18:12.38WormyGhelae has a new idea for energies
18:12.45WormyA sciency one
18:12.48LotGI like Ghel's idea.
18:12.56XhoSo where would said Xhodocto come in?
18:12.57GhelaeThe classification into Chaotic, Light, Life and Time Energies is probably the best way to go about it.
18:13.02ImperiosYeah.
18:13.05XhoSo..
18:13.09XhoChaotic = Chaos?
18:13.10ImperiosEntropy fits Chaotic.
18:13.12Xho-_-
18:13.16WormyAlthough life could be called vita too
18:13.21GhelaeChaos Energy could perhaps be the primal Chaotic Energy, from which the others are derived.
18:13.24Wormy*vital
18:13.28ImperiosIn fact it was named Chais energy at some time.
18:13.30ImperiosChaos
18:13.43GhelaeImperios + Xho: Perhaps you should try to merge some of your ideas for Chaos and Entropic Energy
18:13.49ImperiosYeah!
18:13.49XhoHmm...
18:13.51XhoNo.
18:13.57LotGMe is thinking......no.
18:14.08Ghelaeleaving us with a toned-down Entropic Energy that doesn't cause conflict between the two of you
18:14.18Ghelaeand Chaos Energy remaining unrivalled in power.
18:14.25GhelaeOr something along those lines.
18:14.32GhelaeI don't know entirely what the two of you want.
18:14.37XhoWell
18:14.53LotGWe want nothing that rival Xhoddie or Raven energy.
18:14.57XhoI like the idea of the Chaos, Light, Life and Time being base energies
18:15.01OluapPlayerExcept cheese
18:15.02XhoActually Luc
18:15.05OluapPlayerNothing beats cheese
18:15.08Imperiosfacepalms.
18:15.11XhoXhodocto killed off the Ravenrii
18:15.13ImperiosELEMENTAL, LIFE AND TIME
18:15.16LotGWut?
18:15.22XhoA long time ago in fiction
18:15.25XhoThey came back
18:15.34Wormy<PROTECTED>
18:16.01WormyBasically, Essence could be a Quanntum being?
18:16.08ImperiosThasst makes sense.
18:16.14WormyWhat do you think to that?
18:16.16Imperios>>[21:14] <LotG> We want nothing that rival Xhoddie or Raven energy.
18:16.24GhelaeBasically, Essence would be something seperate from matter that also makes up the universe. It would also be the fundamental... thing... behind consciousness, so yes, I suppose so.
18:16.25Imperiosit is Omnipotent Four, not omnipotent two.
18:16.25LotGThats sounds too much like Falco's idea, Wormy.
18:16.31XhoWell I agreed on that ages ago
18:16.50WormyNot really, its related to digital pphysics
18:16.58XhoMe, Worm and Ghel kinda brainstormed that
18:16.59GhelaeLuc: You mean Falco's "Elemental Guardians" idea? That's a completely different concept.
18:17.16LotGBut still, no entity should have complete control over something.
18:17.31GhelaeThere isn't actually any entity behind it.
18:17.50GhelaeAsk Um2k9. It's basically his "One God" concept.
18:18.03LotG"Basically, Essence could be a Quanntum being?" --Wormulon
18:18.12ImperiosOkay.
18:18.24GhelaeIt's not the same as what we'd normally think of as a "being".
18:18.41GhelaeBut that's the closest term to describe it.
18:18.46ImperiosOkay.
18:18.55WormyBeing was the wrong word
18:19.00ImperiosEntropy is probably slightly weaker than Chaos, but still okay.
18:19.03LotGYou mean Essence is a conscience.
18:19.06Imperioseven weaker. simply weaker.
18:19.19WormyQuantum mind, the collective consciousness of every quantum observer
18:19.45GhelaeLuc: Something like that. It wouldn't be like our own consciousness, though, since those are mostly the result of our physical environment.
18:20.02LotGEssence knows what it is doing, but it cannot control individuals or elements, just cause things to make things happen. Am I right?
18:20.19GhelaeWell, it probably could, but it wouldn't.
18:20.30GhelaeWell, not on it's own. That would be other people using Energies to their own ends.
18:20.37ImperiosI came up
18:20.38GhelaeAnyway, I have to go to have dinner now.
18:20.42GhelaeBye!
18:20.44LotGSame here.
18:20.47OluapPlayerBye
18:20.47WormyIts something that comes out of QM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind
18:20.54Ghelae(I'm not logging out, though, so I don't miss the conversation.)
18:21.04Wormybye
18:22.37ImperiosSo what is problem with Entropy?
18:22.41XhoNothing
18:23.02XhoBut the idea of it having similarites to Chaos kinda kills the idea of Xhodocto being unique
18:23.12XhoLosing their last string of uniqueness
18:23.47OluapPlayerSo, is it ok of Shu being entropic?
18:23.54XhoYeah
18:24.21OluapPlayer[Lezia mode] YAY [/Lezia mode]
18:24.33Imperiosin what sense it is similatr to Chaos (other than name)
18:26.05XhoMeh
18:26.07XhoI have reasons
18:26.25Imperios-say it.
18:26.27ImperiosBTQW
18:26.36ImperiosInfobot is a perv!
18:26.37ImperiosLet me show it.
18:26.49Imperios~rape some innocent girl
18:26.49infobotACTION takes some innocent girl behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams
18:27.05OluapPlayerOh that silly infobot
18:27.05XhoThat's immoral.
18:27.08WormyWell, entropy is the movement from order to chaos, isn't it?
18:27.12XhoKinda
18:27.35WormyWhat if, Entropy is the ongoing step to chaos?
18:27.57XhoOr a branch from Xhodocto-Demonic?
18:28.06ImperiosActually, thamt makes sense.
18:28.11ImperiosProbably:
18:28.17ImperiosChaos splits on:
18:28.25Wormyyeah
18:28.28ImperiosDemonic/Descension - evil aspect
18:28.32Imperiosand Entropy - chaos aspect
18:28.45XhoYesh
18:28.51XhoSo Chaos is a....Form?
18:28.59XhoBest way to put it?
18:29.33Imperiosprobably.
18:30.21OluapPlayerIs there any energy that cancels Entropy?
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18:30.36IrskaadHello.
18:30.42OluapPlayerHi
18:30.43WormyNothing can defeat entropy I'm afraid
18:30.54IrskaadIteok could try and fail.
18:30.55WormyBreak an egg = It will never reform
18:31.17XhoOr Chaos even
18:31.19ImperiosChaos?
18:31.23XhoWell Chaos was obvious
18:31.40WormyChaos would be when all order is taken away, eroded by entropic force
18:31.46XhoIts a bit like putting a Lego figure in front of a 150mph train
18:31.51IrskaadHmmm... Who is the single most arrogant character on this wiki?
18:31.59XhoUhh
18:32.00WormyLezia
18:32.04OluapPlayerLorons?
18:32.06XhoYeah
18:32.09IrskaadLezia?
18:32.14WormyThey are just ignoeant
18:32.46ImperiosKamik-Shi?
18:33.06OluapPlayerI don't find Kamik arrogant compared to other characters
18:33.09WormyErrr
18:33.11ImperiosHm...
18:33.12ImperiosZavhros?
18:33.21Wormyyes, very arrogant
18:33.48ImperiosBTW
18:33.49OluapPlayerBy what we talked here
18:33.55OluapPlayerZavhros is quite arrogant
18:33.57Imperioshow these grey guys are called?
18:34.03Imperiosfrom Stargate
18:34.05ImperiosVorlons?
18:34.09WormyAsgard
18:34.13WormyTier 1
18:34.20IrskaadAsgord are Tier 5.
18:34.27ImperiosAsgArd
18:34.29Wormy?
18:34.41Imperiosasgard are grey aliens with power like thart of DCP or cooler.
18:34.56ImperiosAsgOrd are petting stupid sharks
18:35.04WormyYes, they have thge same tech level.  Gues what they allied with the DCP
18:35.16GhelaeOkay, I'm back.
18:35.30ImperiosAwesome
18:35.34ImperiosXho
18:35.36WormyThe Vorlon from B5 are far more advanced though
18:35.45ImperiosCan Cultist speak Dark Tonuge?
18:36.03XhoThere might be a chance that the Taldar will be destroyed....by the Xhodocto. Low chance but possible.
18:36.18Irskaad=O
18:36.20XhoThat would probably mean the Xhodocto would control the Time Base.
18:36.26OluapPlayerPoor Taldar, the Kingish's only ally
18:36.31WormyI found a way to destrry them - naked singulaity
18:36.34GhelaeSo, did you decide that Entropic is another Chaos-derived Energy? That's what I gather from what I've read of the last few minutes of that conversation that happened after I left.
18:36.45XhoYeah.
18:37.01ImperiosEntropy is Chaos' aspect of Disorder
18:37.04WormyMy idea was that entropy was theongoing movement to chaos energy
18:37.08Imperioswhile Demonic is aspect of evil
18:37.23Imperiosokay, it was originally called Chaos energy.
18:37.27GhelaeEntropic Energy is distinct from thermodynamic entropy.
18:37.32ImperiosThen I changed.
18:37.44GhelaeHowever, there are probably some resemblances, hence the name.
18:37.46WormyI know, but I usae that idea to takeinspiration
18:37.48ImperiosDo you know how I really came up with name?
18:37.53GhelaeErm, similarities. That's the word.
18:37.56GhelaeYeah, okay.
18:37.58GhelaeOh, no.
18:38.01GhelaeNo, I don;t know.
18:38.03Ghelaedon't*
18:38.18ImperiosI took it from game I played once, Freedom Force.
18:39.12Wormy@Ghelae: Since the Grox and Shadows were allies for a short time (they might have shared tech), can the Grox Super Dreadnought be outfitted with Shadow weapons?
18:39.19GhelaeYes, of course.
18:39.47Wormythanks
18:39.54ImperiosHere it was a supervillianess that represented chaos, used darkness as her power, and almost destroyed the spacetime.
18:40.01ImperiosShe was defeated by heroes and a Time Master.
18:40.02WormyIt could have a biorganic hull
18:40.09ImperiosBasically
18:40.27Imperiosshe is Kamik'Shi, but without demonic stuff.
18:40.37XhoMeh
18:40.45XhoKamik'Shi's a Supreme Entity
18:40.46WormyI might make a Shadow/Grox hybrid ship soon.
18:40.49XhoHe pwns all
18:40.57ImperiosActually
18:40.59Imperiosto destroy her
18:41.13Imperiosit was required a help of Time Master. You u get what is from name.
18:41.51XhoHow is it that all these decisions are made with none of my consolation -_-
18:42.05OluapPlayerBecause we are cool like that :v
18:42.17GhelaeI take it that, despite the relationship between the Energies, Shu'ulathoi still has nothing to do with Kamik'Shi?
18:42.26OluapPlayerI don't think so
18:42.52Imperios>>[21:41] <Xho> How is it that all these decisions are made with none of my consolation -_-
18:42.54Imperioswhgat ones?
18:43.20GhelaeWhich reminds me, Luc said that he and you (Xho) had discussed and agreed that Umbrux was an ex-Xhodocto. Did you actually end up agreeing on that, or was he mistaken?
18:43.34XhoHe was mistaken. I never said that.
18:43.36OluapPlayerShu'ulathoi probably knows Kamik' Shi from the dreams of other creatures, but that's it
18:43.41ImperiosHm.
18:43.42ImperiosBTW
18:43.43GhelaeOkay. I thought so.
18:43.48ImperiosTo you OluapPlayer
18:43.49XhoI said that Umbrux is probably in a similar pantheon to Kamik'Shi.
18:44.04ImperiosErnai worshipped Spode, right?
18:44.21OluapPlayerI'm still thinking about that
18:44.22OluapPlayerWhy?
18:45.53ImperiosSo that makes sense
18:46.08Imperiosprobably Eola'Nar tried to teach them with Spode teaching
18:46.16Imperiosthen they corrupted them, due to their violent tnature.
18:46.54OluapPlayerSo they are like, Spode worshippers doing it wrong?
18:47.28GhelaeThat's the current idea of what the worship of the God That Will Come is, right?
18:47.43GhelaeWell, it's similar.
18:48.09ImperiosYes.
18:48.12ImperiosAcutally
18:48.17ImperiosShamans do not do it wrong.
18:48.22ImperiosThey just do it differently.
18:49.31IrskaadLol, Xho's teaching me history.
18:50.33ImperiosXD
18:50.53OluapPlayerI was thinking about changing the Ernai from "crazy Spode followers" to something related to Shu'ulathoi
18:51.20OluapPlayerMaybe they knew about him, and turned paranoid
18:51.32OluapPlayerWhat caused them to become aggressive to all
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18:52.21LotGHello.
18:52.31IrskaadL U C A R I O ! ! !
18:52.40LotGHey Irsk.
18:52.42OluapPlayerHi
18:53.00Wormyhi
18:53.00LotGHi OP
18:53.05LotGHi Wormy
18:53.21Imperiosokay.
18:53.23Imperiospeople
18:53.30ImperiosWormy, Irskaad, OluapPlayer
18:53.34GhelaeHi, Luc.
18:53.38ImperiosI am making a new fiction
18:53.42LotGHi Ghel
18:53.42OluapPlayerHum?
18:53.45ImperiosA cult called Asdran'Ar
18:53.51WormyI know
18:53.52ImperiosIi am thinking abotu a lreader
18:54.00Imperiosit should be a girl
18:54.05Imperioswhat species she could be?
18:54.11LotGLibertus.
18:54.12IrskaadRadeon?
18:54.29LotGAsgord XD
18:54.29ImperiosGhe  and Xho are for Rashaari, Luc is for Libertus.
18:54.40ImperiosUluapo what do yuo think?
18:54.44Imperios*oluap
18:54.48WormyWhats a Rashaari?
18:54.53LotGA Radeon.
18:54.54OluapPlayerI was going to ask that
18:55.01WormyOhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
18:55.24OluapPlayerNo idea
18:55.49GhelaeRashaari would be the founders of Asdran'Ar (hence the name, like Dei'Ar [Theocracy]), and Radeoid species seem to make good religious leaders.
18:56.16GhelaeBut the cult has expanded to other galaxies, so there's no need for the leader to still be a Rashaari.
18:56.20ImperiosNot simply religious. Even simply phiolosphical.
18:56.35LotGYeah, but it would be unfair on the other races.
18:56.45LotGAnd we already have an evil Raddo.
18:56.57ImperiosXho BTW
18:57.04GhelaeIt's only unfair if the leader is unfairly biased towards their own species.
18:57.11Imperioscan CotDm speak Dark Tongue?
18:57.17XhoSome can.
18:57.21LotGWhich it most probably will be.
18:57.37ImperiosCan Telfinne do it??
18:57.39GhelaeBut that problem would still be the case with a leader of any species, wouldn't it?
18:58.03XhoTelfinne couldn't...not a great deal.
18:58.05LotGNot if the leader was seperate from his own species or is a rebel.
18:58.16ImperiosThere are 4 Khazurhals now?
18:58.21GhelaeAnd they're the only member of their species in the whole of Asdran'Ar.
18:58.29GhelaeAs for the argument that we already have one evil Radeon, I suppose that's a fair point.
18:58.50XhoWell other races couldn't tell the difference.
18:59.13ImperiosI made Rashaari as scientists actually
18:59.41LotGTyraz can speak Dark Tongue, but not on purpose, only when he is having moments of rage.
18:59.50ImperiosBTW
19:00.17LotGThat was stupid.
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19:00.33OluapPlayerI'm not saying anything, I don't wanna make people mad again
19:00.34ImperiosWTF
19:00.35ImperiosOkay
19:00.48ImperiosSo is it official that Telfinne can speak Dark Tongue?
19:00.54ImperiosShe said it once:
19:01.00Imperios"Î kâl'kâîshû Keli'Rah... Î kâl'kelî Keli'Rah... Î Kâl'kâvân taîna'khazûrhal... "
19:01.11XhoI hear Angazhar?
19:01.18OluapPlayerHaha stronghole
19:01.28ImperiosBasically that means "Boyfriend, come here!"
19:01.31ImperiosXD
19:01.33ImperiosOkay joke.
19:01.34OluapPlayerololol
19:01.41LotGXD
19:01.43ImperiosAcutally
19:01.44Imperiosthat means.
19:01.50Wormy@Imperious:Look, Asgard!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck__L-znCfE
19:02.03ImperiosI hear Keli'Rah... I see Keli'Rah... I sense Khazurhal.\]
19:02.29ImperiosFurlings?
19:02.30Imperiosfurries!
19:02.41OluapPlayer"I sense Khazurhal"
19:02.43Wormylol
19:02.43OluapPlayerololol
19:02.48WormyYes the Fulings
19:02.49IrskaadWormy: Are they ultra-friendly?
19:03.07WormyQuite peaceful, but go to war when neccsary
19:03.38LotGAsgard are little b*stards.
19:03.41Wormyhttp://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Asgard
19:03.59LotGThey wanted to be gods, so they manipulate the Vikings.
19:05.16OluapPlayerWhat tier and scale an "average" empire would fit?
19:05.23WormyGah, they didn't want to be gods
19:05.28ImperiosSo Xhodocto now have 4 leaders/
19:05.31Imperios?
19:05.31ImperiosDAMMIT
19:05.32WormyThat was the Goa'uld
19:05.34Xho2
19:05.36ImperiosSANKTANAARS CRY.
19:05.40XhoWell no
19:05.41Xho1
19:05.52ImperiosYou mentioned all of them as Khazurhals.
19:06.02XhoThe other 3 are like MEGA-IMPORTANT Military Commanders
19:06.10WormyThe Asgard protected early humans, and as part of their protection simply posed as gods
19:06.14XhoBut have a religious standard instead
19:06.18LotGThe Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.....Kezoreg's uncles.
19:06.21XhoHeh
19:06.24GhelaeOluap: An average empire in Spore would be Tier 5 or 4, while the average SporeWiki empire is probably Tier 3.
19:06.26IrskaadLOL
19:06.34XhoGrandpa Draguros! Yay!
19:06.53LotGXD
19:06.54OluapPlayerAnd scale?
19:07.09LotGThat probably makes Draguros feel old =D
19:07.15XhoHe is old.
19:07.18XhoVery old.
19:07.21WormyNow the Ancients well, they are way ahead of the DCP...
19:07.22XhoVery very very old.
19:07.36OluapPlayerHey grampa Dragu, tell us stories about how you killed that people again!
19:07.43LotGDoesn't help when he already has a grandson though =D
19:08.29GhelaeOluap: Scale of an average empire? Interstellar. Less than a star cluster for a Spore empire, but even an average SporeWiki empire will only own a relatively small region of a galaxy, although it may have a few extragalactic colonies and embassies.
19:08.33ImperiosAnd who is Telfinne so?
19:08.46LotGTelfinne is Kez's auntie =D
19:08.56Imperiosokay.
19:08.57Imperioswait a minute.
19:09.03TelfinneWUT?
19:09.13Telfinnestrangles Luc
19:09.49OluapPlayerBecause I'm making the Ernai page and they are supposed to be an "average Joe" empire
19:10.21ImperiosOP, Irsk, Wormy, for whatr species do you vote?
19:10.45OluapPlayerNo idea, really
19:11.02WormyNo idea
19:11.07LotGwhistles "Libertus"
19:11.09OluapPlayerI'm gonna make it Tier 3, Scare I then
19:11.10ImperiosOkay
19:11.14ImperiosI will make them in Spore
19:11.18Imperiosthen we'll see
19:11.21IrskaadRadeon!
19:13.40IrskaadXho teaches history like he experienced it.
19:15.21GhelaeDoes anybody think they can make those rewrites to the [[Fiction:Essence]] page?
19:15.22morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Essence
19:15.43XhoI'll do the dark energies.
19:15.45XhoOr Chaos
19:15.49XhoWhatever its called
19:16.01WormyI'll do the Vital enewrgies
19:16.04GhelaeChaotic Energies, since Chaos Energy is the primal Energy of the group.
19:16.06OluapPlayerEntropy isn't mentioned just because Shu is the big boss of it :C
19:16.10WormySince I know a bit about them
19:16.29GhelaeI don't think Entropic had been made when that page was last edited.
19:16.41WormyShall we call them life or vital?
19:16.52WormyOr both
19:17.02GhelaeCall them "Life" for now.
19:17.48GhelaeThe problem is, which Energies should be "Light" and which should be "Life"?
19:18.02GhelaeCelestial should be Light; Elemental, Psionic and Life should be Life.
19:18.13GhelaeBut I'm not sure about Mystic, Mana and Fiammian.
19:20.13GhelaeActually, there's something else... perhaps they should be the "Elemental Energies", since Elemental seems like more of a "basic" Energy than the others (although I'm not sure about Life Energy).
19:20.36GhelaeAlthough, "Elemental Energies" might make some people think of the classical elements, which would give the wrong impression.
19:21.09WormyYes, I didn't call it elemental because its about elements
19:21.24ImperiosYeah Agree.
19:21.29ImperiosProbably...hm...
19:21.33WormyI could rename it as Vital force
19:21.36WormyO
19:21.40Wormydamn
19:21.43ImperiosBTW
19:21.44Imperioshttp://s009.radikal.ru/i309/1101/a5/54a3ed9f03f5.png
19:21.49ImperiosI've made cult leaders
19:22.03WormyI keep typing in words by accident
19:22.07GhelaeBut "Vital Energy" and "Life Energy" would be practically synonyms.
19:22.30LotGLibertus.
19:22.48Imperioswhat of these LOOKS better?
19:22.57IrskaadHow did they get an asgord?
19:23.02IrskaadRadeon!
19:23.19OluapPlayerI like the middle one
19:23.20ImperiosEasily
19:23.29ImperiosI.e Rashaari?
19:23.33ImperiosOkay.
19:23.38Imperioshow they got an asgord.
19:23.42ImperiosCome on and say:
19:23.52ImperiosDo you know how to achieve universal peace and love?
19:24.02WormyThe main differences are: elemental can be dstructive, but this does not benefit its user, secondly it uses a balance of forces and thirdly it uses subtle bodies and channels unlike other energies seem to
19:24.03ImperiosHow asgord should respond?
19:24.18ImperiosSo it is related to body?
19:24.32WormyThats what needs to be resolved so its fits in
19:24.37Ghelae"Elemental Energy" is still probably the best name for it.
19:25.12GhelaeUnless there's an "Energy merge", and the concepts for Life and Elemental are merged.
19:26.06WormyThere are forms of elemental, perhaps life is a type, but that brings us back to the old problem with essence
19:26.31GhelaeElemental Energy does seem to be the closest thing to pure Essence as a mortal would use it.
19:26.53ImperiosOkay
19:26.53XhoOkay
19:26.58Imperioshow Asgord will react if:
19:27.03XhoThere's my history lesson done.
19:27.04WormyAlso elemental flows around non-living things
19:27.05ImperiosA cultist come and say to him.
19:27.09ImperiosDo you know how to achieve universal peace and love?
19:27.24XhoI taught Irsk about the Cold War from 1946 - 1989
19:27.25IrskaadAsgord - Yes, by being nice to everyone!
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19:28.21GhelaeHi!
19:28.28OluapPlayerHello
19:28.30FalcoPunchHey!
19:28.32Wormyhi
19:28.47XhoHello
19:28.51ImperiosLet us go to our center, we shouldd help you to achieve Love.
19:28.54LotGFalco, me and Irsk on #sporecreaterp
19:28.59ImperiosSo how Asgord will react?
19:29.02GhelaeFalco, what's happening with your Elemental Guardians idea?
19:29.09IrskaadAsgord - Ok!
19:29.14Imperioshow to join a new channel without closing aonother?
19:29.17ImperiosHere they are coming
19:29.22Imperiosbrainwashing him/her
19:29.28ImperiosAsdran'ar ready.
19:29.35IrskaadLol.
19:30.16WormyPerhaps elemental becomes life energy when in contact with life
19:30.57GhelaeHmm... Xho, can you explain your ideas of Life Energy again?
19:31.36ImperiosHow to join another channel without closing first one?
19:32.00OluapPlayerType /join (name of the channel)
19:32.19TelfinneWTF
19:34.13WormyAt leat they're Tier 4 http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Paingler_Imperium
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19:40.34WormyIRC is emptying fast
19:40.47OluapPlayerNot good
19:40.49GhelaeYeah.
19:41.03WormyPicked off one by one
19:41.23Wormylol
19:42.32Wormybrb
19:43.04GhelaeOkay.
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19:45.32ImperiosWhat O ,ossed??
19:45.36Imperios*missed
19:46.40GhelaeYou haven't missed anything.
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19:48.56FacecatHello
19:48.56GhelaeHi!
19:49.00OluapPlayerHi
19:49.28ImperiosSo all agree that leader could be Rashaari, right?
19:49.53GhelaeIt seems to be the most popular option, yes.
19:51.00FacecatI won't do what you tell me to do cause I do what I want when you tell me what to do.
19:51.46Ghelae...What are you talking about?
19:51.58GhelaeAlso, what if what I tell you to do is also what you want to do? :P
19:52.11GhelaeOr are you reciting song lyrics?
19:52.17FacecatThis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTVjBAXpnQg
19:52.19OluapPlayer's head explode
19:52.37Ghelaeclears up the mess from the Oluap head explosion
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19:52.41GhelaeHi!
19:52.47FacecatHi Um
19:52.54FacecatI won't do what you tell me to do cause I do what I want when you tell me what to do.
19:53.08OluapPlayerHi
19:53.12Um2Hello!
19:53.17Um2Wormy!
19:53.25Um2I thought you were on holiday?
19:53.47GhelaeFacecat's singing (I think); just ignore him. Wormulon said "brb" 11 minutes ago; he hasn't returned since.
19:54.32Um2Ah. I have a new computer and a new graphics card. I can finally play Spore to its full potential.
19:54.50OluapPlayerI jelus
19:55.09FacecatMy grandma fell down in the hallway last night.
19:55.25Um2It really makes a difference.
19:56.37FacecatNot singing anymore BTW
19:56.44GhelaeAh, okay.
19:56.45OluapPlayerGood
19:57.02GhelaeNo, that means his grandma really did fall down in the hallway last night.
19:57.12Um2Did you want me to create something for you Imperios? It will have to wait until I reach Space Stage and regain the ability to create captains and adventures.
19:58.02Um2But it should be ready tomorrow.
19:58.26FacecatYeah, we are taking care of her and she can't walk but I guess she was mad at us for some reason and made her way into the hallway then fell down.
19:58.33GhelaeI think I'm going to go now. On the other hand, I may not. Either way, bye!
19:59.14Facecatbye
19:59.27OluapPlayerbye
19:59.31Um2Bye!
20:00.18FacecatSometime I want my mom and dad to put her in the nut house >>
20:03.23FacecatUm, did your grandmother act like that when she got older?
20:05.29Wormyhi i'm back
20:05.44FacecatWelcome back!
20:05.46Um2@face: No, not really.
20:06.01Um2@Wormy: Hello!
20:06.12Um2I thought you were on holiday?
20:06.30WormyOnly for a weekend
20:06.33OluapPlayerwb
20:06.36WormyThe Lake District
20:06.47Um2Welcome back! Did you have a good time?
20:07.04WormyYeah, lots o things were shut and I got flu again
20:07.13WormyBut otherwise it was good
20:07.21Um2Oh dear!
20:07.27WormyI'm sure you've heard of Cumbria?
20:08.25Um2Yep, I went there last year!
20:08.41WormyCool, I've been twice
20:09.01Um2It is lovely
20:09.08WormyEver been to the Peak District, thatrs my fav place.
20:09.23Um2No, never. I will look it up!
20:09.31Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_district
20:10.11Wormyits actually regarded as even better due to the variety
20:10.53Um2I actually probably drove through it, from Manchester to York.
20:11.15WormyAh, it is close.  I like the Manifold Valley best ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Manifold_valley_(from_Thors_Cave).jpg
20:11.26Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Manifold_valley_(from_Thors_Cave).jpg
20:11.32Um2Have you ever been to York?
20:11.44WormyYeah
20:11.57FacecatOh god I'll bbl I think my grandma had a stroke!
20:12.11Um2Oh dear.
20:12.14WormyThe Peak is as bit like the Yorkshire Dales
20:12.18FacecatBye
20:12.22Um2Bye!
20:12.35Um2I got a new graphics card?
20:12.51Um2*!
20:13.08WormyHooray, you can play Spore on high
20:13.16Um2http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110109212926/spore/images/5/50/CRE_Libertus_(Male)-0b543e33_ful.png
20:13.20OluapPlayerI'm pretty sure you already said that
20:13.27Um2You can tell the difference.
20:18.08WormyDid you like that Starship Troopers clip I sent you?
20:18.30Wormyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faFuaYA-daw
20:19.41Um2Yes, it was really interesting!
20:19.50Um2I think I remember seeing it before.
20:19.51WormyCool
20:20.00WormyI got all 3 movies
20:20.22Um2Cool!
20:21.01Um2We are learning about conspiracy theories in history!
20:21.47WormyI like the propagander in the movies, reminds me of DCP TV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0OrL97wjeg
20:22.01WormyConspiracies are fascinating
20:22.30Um2Indeed they are. Hopefully we will learn about Roswell. I know lots about it anyway.
20:24.05WormyI prefer the Rendleshem Forest incident
20:24.29WormyI'm syre you have heard of that one
20:24.45Um2Indeed I have. It is very interesting.
20:25.16Um2Whoops, I have to go! Bye!
20:25.21WormyBye!
20:34.09Ghelae...and I'm back again.
20:39.27Wormyhi
20:39.34OluapPlayerHi
20:40.00WormyI am trying to imagine what a Grox/Shadow hybrid would look like.
20:40.37WormyHmm, black bioarmour, with long arms sticking out where the Grox ship wings should be
20:41.11WormyThats one toxic mix
20:41.40WormyAnymore ideas (you seem to have seen B5)?
20:45.43WormyLove those ships http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNk6wKj-wIo
20:49.12GhelaeWell, I haven't seen Babylon Five (other than Youtube clips that you've shown me, and information on the Babylon 5 Wikia), so I can't really help you on that.
20:49.26GhelaeBabylon 5*
20:51.16GhelaeAnyway, I'm going to go now. Properly, this time, as in I'm going to log out of IRC.
20:51.19GhelaeBye!
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21:45.52FacecatOkay, I'm back
21:46.44FacecatI don't think my grandma had a stroke but we still called an ambulance.
21:50.59TylinisWHAT?
21:51.03Tylinis(It's Falco)
21:51.12TylinisWhat happened? Is she ok?
21:51.31FacecatWe don't know yet. I stayed home to look after things.
21:52.48TylinisI hope she's okay.
21:53.10FacecatYeah, me too.
21:54.01FacecatWha?
21:54.19FacecatWho is Timm Inna?
21:58.45FacecatI'm back in black!
22:03.07FacecatSo, it's you!
22:37.04FacecatCalling doctor love
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22:44.51rawrsauce_Hi
22:45.12FacecatHi
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22:54.33Ramishey all
22:54.43Ramisguys?
22:55.06Rawrsauce__Hi
22:55.12Ramishi rawrsauce
22:55.17Ramis~hi
22:55.17infobothello, ramis
22:55.30Ramis~hey infobot
22:55.31infobotwell, infobot is in need of training, can someone train me?
22:55.34Rawrsauce__Who is Infobot?
22:55.38Ramis~maybe
22:55.53Ramisill give u a hint
22:56.04RamisinfoBOT
22:56.09FacecatHello
22:56.13Ramishi MM
22:56.31Rawrsauce__Well, if he's a bot, how can he speak
22:56.33RamisI was on the IRC yesterday and no one was on
22:56.37Ramisinfobot is a she
22:56.44Ramisand she is a very smart bot
22:56.47Ramis~right?
22:56.48infobotblah blah blah/spam spam spam/yaddayaddayaddayadda sis boom bam
22:56.54Ramissometimes
22:57.00Rawrsauce__What is technology turning into!
22:57.06FacecatDid you hear that Frank Zappa?
22:57.10Facecat~MrT
22:57.19Ramisindeed
22:57.21Facecat~Mr T
22:57.22infobotfrom memory, mr t is the man who pities fools and throws helluva far
22:57.34Ramislol
22:57.51Ramis~I love you infobot
22:57.51infobotYou love you infobot?
22:57.56Ramis~yes
22:57.56infobotextra, extra, read all about it, yes is the opposite of no
22:58.05Ramis~damn you're brilliant
22:58.05infobotACTION damns you're brilliant to the bowels of bloody hell forever.
22:58.17Ramis~what the hell
22:58.17infobotidk
22:58.24Ramis~that makes sense
22:58.38Facecat~Idiotbox
22:58.45Facecat~Ha
22:58.45infobotSugar: scotch on the rocks
22:58.55Ramis~yum
22:58.55infobotwell, yum is Yellowdog Updater Modified, available from http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/
22:59.08Ramis~thank you infobot
22:59.08infobotRamis: my pleasure
22:59.12Facecat~linux
22:59.12infobot[linux] an operating system that beats the socks off Windows and Mac!  Go Linux!
22:59.19Facecat~Lies
22:59.19infobotthe cake is a lie!
22:59.22Ramis~what do you think of me
22:59.37Ramis~are youa girl?
22:59.42Ramis~nvm
22:59.42infobotextra, extra, read all about it, nvm is never mind
22:59.51Ramis~damn you're good
22:59.51infobotACTION damns you're good to the bowels of bloody hell forever.
23:00.01FacecatInfobot is a girl?
23:00.05Ramis~cry
23:00.06infobotACTION cries and sobs until she nearly drowns in her own tears.
23:00.07Ramisyes
23:00.10RamisSHE
23:00.24Ramissee
23:00.33Ramis~will you marry me?
23:00.33infobotno, ramis, I prefer virile men.
23:00.46Ramis~godammit
23:00.46Rawrsauce__What!? Bots are girls?
23:00.52Ramis~sometimes
23:00.52Facecat~AI
23:00.52infobotfrom memory, ai is a myth, the best they have so far is actual stupidity, or me APT!, or american idol
23:01.00RamisNOOOO
23:01.05Ramis~falco
23:01.16Facecat~Alice Cooper
23:02.01Facecat~acdc
23:02.39Facecat~rap cat
23:02.44Ramis~will you marry me?
23:02.44infobotno, ramis, I prefer virile men.
23:02.48Ramis~please
23:02.48infobotDo I look like an information bitch, ramis?
23:02.53Ramis~yes
23:02.53infobot[yes] the opposite of no
23:02.59Ramis~I am very virile
23:03.00infobotit is my pleasure to meet you, very virile
23:03.08Ramis~damn you infobot
23:03.08infobotACTION damns you infobot to the bowels of bloody hell forever.
23:03.19Ramis~thank you
23:03.19infobotRamis: de nada
23:03.29Ramis~no hable espanol
23:03.34Ramis~no habla espanol
23:04.41Ramis~infobot, who are you
23:04.42infobotI think you lost me on that one, Ramis
23:04.49Ramis~ha
23:04.49infobotSugar: scotch on the rocks
23:04.53Ramis~no
23:05.01Ramis~not really
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23:23.20Rawrsauce__Hi
23:23.24FalcoPunchHi
23:23.52FalcoPunchDiarrhea
23:23.55FalcoPunchFLOWS
23:24.01FalcoPunchlike
23:24.02FalcoPuncha RIVER
23:24.07Rawrsauce__?
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23:24.17Rawrsauce__Seek help
23:24.23Rawrsauce__Dammit!
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23:40.01Rawrsauce__Hi
23:40.40Rawrsauce__Falcon?
23:41.35FalcoPunchhi
23:43.30Rawrsauce__I'm tired
23:43.55Rawrsauce__Why did you say what you did before?
23:44.11Rawrsauce__[18:23] <FalcoPunch> Diarrhea [18:23] <FalcoPunch> FLOWS [18:24] <FalcoPunch> like [18:24] <FalcoPunch> a RIVER
23:45.32FalcoPunchI have no idea
23:45.44FalcoPunchIt was random
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23:47.33Rawrsauce__Speaking of random

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